From cph Sat Jan 1 01:08:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA08211 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 01:08:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06385; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:53:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06127; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:53:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06114; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:53:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.37 -> mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:53:48 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.12.43]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000101055345.HLZH1914@compaq>; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 05:53:45 +0000 Message-ID: <386D9647.6B9E@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:53:11 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "STeve Andre'" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Of interest to some of you 770 folk? References: <386A4811.DE54413E@mail.com> <3.0.6.32.19991229195747.00a7e9a0@pilot.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You might want to know that Centrix not has them listed on ebay in a Dutch auction (15 pieces). Current bid is $59.00, no reserve. STeve Andre' wrote: > > In my wanderings among surplus electronics places today, I happened > to find a source for a 770 battery, listed as: > > Original Li-Ion Battery For Thinkpad 770 , 770E, 770D, 770ED series FRU # > 12J0433 ASM# 83h6193 > > The price is $139.00. I do not know if these are system pulls, or new, or > what else they might be. > > The site is Centrix International; I got their url from a friend of mine > who has ordered from them with success in the past. Thats all I know about > the company. The battery looks like a possible winner so I am posting it > here for any battery afficinados to drool over. ...If anyone finds cheap > IBM batteries for the i series 1480 or 1451, do let me know. ;-) > > The battery into is at http://www.centrix-intl.com/list.asp?CategoryID=12 > > --STeve Andre' > andres@msu.edu From cph Sat Jan 1 17:55:36 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA11273 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:55:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09621; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:53:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09488; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:53:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09475; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:53:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:53:48 -0500 Received: from thomsonp ([209.138.145.146]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA16744; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:53:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007101bf54aa$76764860$92918ad1@thomsonp> From: "Paul Thomson" To: Cc: References: Subject: Re: TP750C and 256 colors in win95 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:49:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 11:52 AM Subject: TP750C and 256 colors in win95 > I have a Thinkpad 750C running win 95 and I would like to use 256 colors in windows 95, however I haven't been able to find a suitable driver that would let me use more than 16 colors. If anyone knows how to do it I'd like to know how. > Not sure about the floppy problem, but I've been through the 256 color/750 series problems a few times. First, dl the Win 3.1 driver from the IBM Device Driver matrix. When you explode the diskette, it'll have a setup program on it, but beware, it won't work if your running FAT32. You can manually copy the files to the hard drive. What you're looking for is the VESA driver. Check the readme for the exact syntax, but adding the line ("Device=C:\Vesa\VESA.exe" I believe) in your Config.sys will let you select 256 colors after rebooting. Just a stab in the dark for the floppy problem...did you flash the BIOS? Paul Paul Thomson IBM Global Services DC Metro technical lead Distributed Computing and Deskside Services thomsonp@us.ibm.com From cph Sun Jan 2 14:59:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA24210 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:59:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20059; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:58:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:55:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19825; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:55:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19812; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.31 -> cpimssmtpu09.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:55:31 -0500 Received: from default - 63.27.205.239 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:55:30 -0800 Message-ID: <000901bf555a$8df49fe0$efcd1b3f@default> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Think" Subject: Bummed Battery Chapter II Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:49:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I couldn't get my 560 to charge any of it's 3 batteries. Just for the fun of it I decided to look and see if the area around the power connector might have any damage etc. Well after finally getting the cover off, the company before had tighten the screws way to tight, guess what the charger started working, and 1 of my batteries took a full charge. My thinking is, that one of the over torqued screws must have caused a short. Now everything is working perfectly. Any thoughts? Brad From cph Sun Jan 2 16:18:34 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA24422 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:18:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22280; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:17:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22203; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:17:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot012.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22190; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:17:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot012.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.112 -> pilot012.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:17:28 -0500 Received: from andres (port18.annarbor01.tir.com [216.40.148.19]) by pilot012.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA40546 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:17:24 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000102161649.00a7e390@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 16:16:49 -0500 To: From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Bummed Battery Chapter II In-Reply-To: <000901bf555a$8df49fe0$efcd1b3f@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Thats probably exactly what happened. Unfortunately, now that one of those screws has been overtightened and eased up on, you may well have a troublesome spot there, in that the screw may get more loose, and things may stop working once again. If you can, I would find out what part number those screws are, and get a new set of them. Even if they aren't the "compression" type of screw meant to be used once, they can deform and become tiresome to deal with. STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 01:49 PM 1/2/2000 -0600, Brad Burean wrote: >I couldn't get my 560 to charge any of it's 3 batteries. Just for the fun >of it I decided to look and see if the area around the power connector might >have any damage etc. Well after finally getting the cover off, the company >before had tighten the screws way to tight, guess what the charger started >working, and 1 of my batteries took a full charge. > >My thinking is, that one of the over torqued screws must have caused a >short. Now everything is working perfectly. Any thoughts? > >Brad From cph Sun Jan 2 17:46:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA24760 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:46:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25064; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:45:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:44:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24868; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:44:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24854; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:44:14 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax51.vramp.net [198.138.8.114]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA14221 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:43:50 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: Subject: RE: Bummed Battery Chapter II Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:47:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20000102161649.00a7e390@pilot.msu.edu> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: A drop of Loctite 242 Threadlocker will hold those screws securely and is a _lot_ easier to find than trying to get those screw out of IBM parts. Regards, James the Elder > -----Original Message----- > From: STeve Andre' [mailto:andres@msu.edu] wrote: > > Thats probably exactly what happened. Unfortunately, now that one of those > screws has been overtightened and eased up on, you may well have a troublesome > spot there, in that the screw may get more loose, and things may stop working > once again. If you can, I would find out what part number those screws are, > and get a new set of them. Even if they aren't the "compression" type of > screw meant to be used once, they can deform and become tiresome to deal with. > > STeve Andre' > andres@msu.edu > > At 01:49 PM 1/2/2000 -0600, Brad Burean wrote: > >I couldn't get my 560 to charge any of it's 3 batteries. Just for the fun > >of it I decided to look and see if the area around the power connector might > >have any damage etc. Well after finally getting the cover off, the company > >before had tighten the screws way to tight, guess what the charger started > >working, and 1 of my batteries took a full charge. > > > >My thinking is, that one of the over torqued screws must have caused a > >short. Now everything is working perfectly. Any thoughts? > > > >Brad > From cph Mon Jan 3 00:42:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA25894 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 00:42:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25864; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 00:41:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 3 Jan 2000 00:40:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25751; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 00:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25738; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 00:40:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (206.141.239.142 -> mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 3 Jan 2000 00:40:34 -0500 Received: from attglobal.net ([199.179.170.117]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <20000103054034.CJDI25365.mailhost.chi.ameritech.net@attglobal.net> for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:40:34 -0600 Message-ID: <38703653.6AA2DB38@attglobal.net> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 23:40:35 -0600 From: rich Reply-To: rctech@attglobal.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: subscribe From cph Tue Jan 4 03:10:59 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA00326 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 03:10:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19176; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 03:09:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 03:05:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18729; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 03:05:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18716; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 03:05:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 03:05:02 -0500 Received: from [139.142.112.230] (helo=139-142-112-230.islandnet.com) by mail.islandnet.com with SMTP id 125OxR-0000Zs-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:04:45 -0800 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) Newsgroups: list.thinkpad To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 as fax machine Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 23:38:15 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: Lines: 19 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: By activating the "Resume on Ring" option, one can turn the 701 into a fax and perhaps voice mail receiver. Is anybody doing this? What software do you use? (assuming Win95 as OS) Does it work reliably? Does it work only with the internal modem, or can you use a PCMCIA? When the call has completed, does the 701 suspend again? -- cheers Jonathan From cph Tue Jan 4 06:04:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA00701 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:04:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04432; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:03:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04326; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:03:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04313; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:02:59 -0500 Received: from user-38ld30e.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38ld30e.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.140.14]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA15583; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:02:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001041102.GAA15583@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> From: "Allan" To: "Jonathan Berry" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 06:01:20 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 as fax machine List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 23:38:15 -0800, Jonathan Berry wrote: >s anybody doing this? > >What software do you use? (assuming Win95 as OS) > >Does it work reliably? I do this with an old desktop, running W95A and Winfax. Winfax is in the Startup, set to autoreceive. An APS allows the unit to run 24x7. Can't speak to the 701 specifically but it should work if the suspend can be counted on. From cph Tue Jan 4 06:33:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA00967 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:33:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05249; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:32:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:32:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05155; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05142; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:32:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (24.25.227.35 -> hnlmail2.hawaii.rr.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:32:17 -0500 Received: from lava.net ([24.25.253.37]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 01:31:29 -1000 Message-ID: <3871DA7A.5BD1A42A@lava.net> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 01:33:14 -1000 From: Keith Wong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: 701 as fax machine References: <200001041102.GAA15583@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: --I haven't run winfax on my 701 24/7 but I have used winfax as a 24/7 communications server for my company on a regular desktop. The 701 shouldn't be that different to setup. Winfax 8.0 is a much better deal than 9.0, because it gives you the voice answering machine part free, whereas 9.0 will ask an additional 50 bucks from you before it is fully installed. Pretty decent product though. I've used it for under two years and have been very impressed with what it can do. Well cheers everyone. --Keith Honolulu, Hawaii Allan wrote: > On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 23:38:15 -0800, Jonathan Berry wrote: > > >s anybody doing this? > > > >What software do you use? (assuming Win95 as OS) > > > >Does it work reliably? > > I do this with an old desktop, running W95A and Winfax. > Winfax is in the Startup, set to autoreceive. An > APS allows the unit to run 24x7. Can't speak to the 701 > specifically but it should work if the suspend can be > counted on. From cph Tue Jan 4 10:04:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA01625 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:04:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14110; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:04:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:03:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14006; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13990; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:03:05 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (12.5.48.10 -> fantasia.stormhaven.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:03:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13225; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:03:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:03:01 -0500 (EST) To: Allan cc: Jonathan Berry , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: 701 as fax machine In-Reply-To: <200001041102.GAA15583@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Allan wrote: > > > >What software do you use? (assuming Win95 as OS) > > I do this with an old desktop, running W95A and Winfax. > Winfax is in the Startup, set to autoreceive. An > APS allows the unit to run 24x7. Can't speak to the 701 > specifically but it should work if the suspend can be > counted on. IIRC, Win95 took about a half minute to resume on my 701 (reloading all the drivers). No idea if that'll interfere with the built-in fax/modem. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph Tue Jan 4 13:11:13 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA02781 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:11:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27121; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:10:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:09:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26996; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:09:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26983; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:09:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (198.206.134.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:09:11 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-340.gate.net [199.227.131.149]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA105936; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:09:01 -0500 Message-ID: <38723753.4956C022@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 13:09:23 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan CC: Jonathan Berry , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: 701 as fax machine References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a 701C i use as a 24/7 printer server.. i did the winfax thing, but winfax does not like the 701 voice modem, so i used an IBM voice/fax modem, that it DID like.. the audio was very poor with that modem, however.. all in all, it should all work, but i would not look for great audio quality.. kim@stormhaven.org wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Allan wrote: > > > > > >What software do you use? (assuming Win95 as OS) > > > > I do this with an old desktop, running W95A and Winfax. > > Winfax is in the Startup, set to autoreceive. An > > APS allows the unit to run 24x7. Can't speak to the 701 > > specifically but it should work if the suspend can be > > counted on. > > IIRC, Win95 took about a half minute to resume on my 701 > (reloading all the drivers). No idea if that'll interfere > with the built-in fax/modem. > > -- > John H. Kim > kim@stormhaven.org -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Tue Jan 4 15:16:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA03927 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:16:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06809; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:06:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:05:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06601; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:05:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06582; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:05:18 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.33 -> imo-d01.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:05:18 -0500 Received: from PeggyKozy@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id o.0.25616131 (3976) for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:05:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.25616131.25a3ac7a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:05:14 EST Subject: Unsubscribe To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 44 List-Unsubscribe: Unsubscribe From cph Tue Jan 4 15:19:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA03947 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:19:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07748; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:12:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:11:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07567; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:11:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07491; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (147.225.51.39 -> mosquito.ny.ans.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:11:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (bkomar@localhost) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA04963; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:11:18 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mosquito.ny.ans.net: bkomar owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:11:18 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: PeggyKozy@aol.com cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <0.25616131.25a3ac7a@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 PeggyKozy@aol.com wrote: > Unsubscribe > In order to List-Unsubscribe: mailto:thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Subject=unsubscribe Have a nice day... Bruce Komar From cph Tue Jan 4 17:02:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA04843 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:02:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16873; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:56:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15601; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15537; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:56:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:56:43 -0500 Received: from 56.chicago-36-37rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.162.56]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000104215635.PAB5516@56.chicago-36-37rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:56:35 +0000 From: Emanuel@Brown.org (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 21:59:17 GMT Message-ID: <38736c8a.12541196@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id RAA04844 On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:11:18 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 PeggyKozy@aol.com wrote: > >> Unsubscribe >> >In order to List-Unsubscribe: > mailto:thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu > Subject=unsubscribe > >Have a nice day... >Bruce Komar Just so you guys don't write everyone doing this off as hopeless morons, I thought I'd mention that some of these are likely folks that have found the above instructions ineffective - I unsubscribed from the list over a month ago and I'm still getting posts. To be fair, I've got the same problem with the PC 110 list... Emanuel Portable Computing FAQ - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01 Sony VAIO 505 info - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/sony505.html Join the 505 Mailing List - http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/sony505 eFax phone # - 801-328-3789 From cph Tue Jan 4 19:39:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA05515 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:39:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28728; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:38:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:37:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28611; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:37:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28598; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:37:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (198.206.134.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:37:20 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-313.gate.net [199.227.131.122]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA44276; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:35:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3872924E.D18E9795@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 19:37:34 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James H. E. Maugham" CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Bummed Battery Chapter II References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: screws are available from ibm, but they come as a kit of small parts.. "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > A drop of Loctite 242 Threadlocker will hold those screws securely and is a > _lot_ easier to find than trying to get those screw out of IBM parts. > > Regards, > > James the Elder > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: STeve Andre' [mailto:andres@msu.edu] wrote: > > > > Thats probably exactly what happened. Unfortunately, now that one of those > > screws has been overtightened and eased up on, you may well have a troublesome > > spot there, in that the screw may get more loose, and things may stop working > > once again. If you can, I would find out what part number those screws are, > > and get a new set of them. Even if they aren't the "compression" type of > > screw meant to be used once, they can deform and become tiresome to deal with. > > > > STeve Andre' > > andres@msu.edu > > > > At 01:49 PM 1/2/2000 -0600, Brad Burean wrote: > > >I couldn't get my 560 to charge any of it's 3 batteries. Just for the fun > > >of it I decided to look and see if the area around the power connector might > > >have any damage etc. Well after finally getting the cover off, the company > > >before had tighten the screws way to tight, guess what the charger started > > >working, and 1 of my batteries took a full charge. > > > > > >My thinking is, that one of the over torqued screws must have caused a > > >short. Now everything is working perfectly. Any thoughts? > > > > > >Brad > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Wed Jan 5 09:50:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA08489 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:50:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11558; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:49:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:46:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11352; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:46:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11339; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:46:13 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [172.20.2.1]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00102 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:45:48 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [172.20.1.9]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA20882 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:45:39 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:45:51 +0000 To: Subject: 755C and 755CX disk upgrade fun and games MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id JAA08490 I have got my IBM travelstar 4.6GB up and running in my 755CX now, and it's really good. Seems to use less juice as well. Interestingly it ALSO WORKS completely in the 755C, for anyone considering a disk upgrade. I copied a win95 partition image onto the new disk, this didn't work (wouln't boot) until I copied it to the first partition, and then did a SYS C: from another partition under dos. You have to cd into windows/command before invoking SYS. I've got linux on there as well, and will soon put on WFW 3.11. There is a large (2GB) FAT16 partition for my files, so I can access them from both linux and Microsoft o/s's. God praise linux and dd for copying all those partitions around! Now to fill it up - and wish I'd got a 9 gig drive.... or 12... Happy New Year to all. - Adam ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Wed Jan 5 18:51:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA12374 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:51:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21241; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:50:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:50:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21116; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from chele.cais.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21084; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:49:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from chele.cais.net (199.0.216.212 -> chele.cais.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:49:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA22074 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:48:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:48:50 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: ThinkPad List Subject: (OT)Shark 250 Problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Sorry for the OT post but this is only place I can think of where there is a chance I might get some good responses. I have a Avatar Shark 250 that will not read any disks and I've got stuff on them I need. Anyone have any thoughts including any other place where I might ask for help? Thanks! From cph Wed Jan 5 19:36:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA12612 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:36:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23685; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:29:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:28:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23583; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:28:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23564; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:28:42 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.16.109]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000106002839.VMYH4888@compaq>; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 00:28:39 +0000 Message-ID: <3873E198.55A9@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 19:28:08 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rj CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: (OT)Shark 250 Problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I don't know whether it is your drive, your cable, or your disks. But, Shark drives are available on ebay all the time for $20-30 So buy another one, hopefully that solves the problem! rj wrote: > > Sorry for the OT post but this is only place I can think of where there is > a chance I might get some good responses. > I have a Avatar Shark 250 that will not read any disks and I've got stuff > on them I need. Anyone have any thoughts including any other place where > I might ask for help? > > Thanks! From cph Thu Jan 6 13:14:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA17004 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:14:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25199; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:10:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24653; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24640; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:10:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (132.187.1.7 -> wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:10:03 -0500 Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.2.12]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8/uniwue-MM-1.0) with ESMTP id TAA09668 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:09:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 6 Jan 00 19:10:09 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.44); 6 Jan 00 19:09:51 +0200 Received: from mail.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.117) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 6 Jan 00 19:09:43 +0200 Received: from babylon5 (babylon5.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.2] ) by mail.stelarcom.de (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:49:47 -0100 Message-Id: <200001061849.4735223.6@mail.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Cc: "Denis Hall" Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 18:49:46 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Alexander Wagner" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.1999 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: BIOS Error on 760ED List-Unsubscribe: Hi! Just a short question: What does the follwoing message mean? Bus No. # 00h, Device # 05h, Function # 0h Disabled Devices Device is a ThinkPad 760ED Mod. Nr. 9546-U9A. According to the features all devices should be enabled. -- CU/2 (( In the beginning was The Word Alexander Wagner )) and The Word was Content-type: text/plain Team OS/2 Franken (( _________________________________________________________________________ -=[ Team OS/2 Germany #294 ]=- Please use only A.Wagner@TeamOS2.de or A.Wagner@Bigfoot.de for replies, even if some other addresses may appear. Thanks! --> Get my PGP-key with Subject: Request for PGP-Keys From cph Thu Jan 6 13:24:59 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA17070 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:24:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26323; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:24:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:24:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26247; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26233; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:24:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.239 -> out4.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:24:09 -0500 Received: from basterfield.com ([139.92.215.223]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <20000106182356239029i4d5e>; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:23:57 +0000 Message-ID: <3874DD7E.2D7AE0AE@basterfield.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 18:22:54 +0000 From: Daniel Basterfield Organization: My middle name! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad mailing list Subject: Where to buy Y-cables? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, Where can I buy a keyboard/mouse Y-cable on-line? I'd rather just order one than wait for a week for an auction to finish. Cheers, Dan. -- Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" OS/2 Certified Engineer Microsoft Certified Professional ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm From cph Thu Jan 6 14:44:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA17779 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:44:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03586; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:41:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:40:42 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03444; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:40:40 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id OAA00582 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from walt.toontown.erial.nj.us (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28929; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:44:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from walt.toontown.erial.nj.us (24.8.199.185 -> cg17827-a.adubn1.nj.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:45:00 -0500 Received: from walt.toontown.erial.nj.us (walt.toontown.erial.nj.us [204.145.227.9]) by walt.toontown.erial.nj.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF562A7F for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:44:57 -0500 (EST) Sender: rsnyder@walt.toontown.erial.nj.us To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: flaking "blackness" From: Bob Snyder Date: 06 Jan 2000 13:44:57 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 5 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: The black area on the palm rest area on my 770 is flaking off, showing a greenish-gray surface below. Is this something that would be covered by the warranty, or does it exclude such "cosmetic" damage? Bob From cph Thu Jan 6 14:53:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA17864 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:53:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04750; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:51:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04674; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:51:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04657; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:51:35 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.213]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000106195131.IHHY4888@kaste> for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:51:31 +0000 Message-ID: <000901bf587f$19ccb440$d5c74b0c@kaste> Reply-To: "Kaste" From: "Kaste" To: Subject: need Thinkpad parts Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:49:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: I need the little D-chip that will enable sound on a 760C ThinkPad laptop. Mine doesn't contain one, and I want sound without needing the pcmcia sound card. Does anyone know where to purchase one? Thanks Garrett. From cph Thu Jan 6 19:00:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA19938 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:00:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22386; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:55:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:54:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22168; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:54:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from orm-mail20.orem.novell.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22149; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:54:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from orm-mail20.orem.novell.com (151.155.118.32 -> orm-mail20.orem.novell.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:54:18 -0500 Received: from note (lef1.bht.novell.com [164.99.41.42]) by orm-mail20.orem.novell.com; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 16:53:59 -0700 Message-ID: <005f01bf58a1$4b5b0b20$2a2963a4@bht.novell.com> From: "Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop" To: Subject: Big hard drives for ThinkPads Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:52:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I have a 560X (which is great, by the way) with a 4GB hard drive and I need a bigger disk. From what I can see, if I'm going to do it, I might as well do it big, so I was looking for a 10GB disk. A quick look at shopper.com leads me to the "Procom" 10GB disk. Beyond that, I know nothing about the topic. Does anybody have any recommendations or warnings? -Larry- From cph Thu Jan 6 19:00:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA19942 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:00:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22381; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:55:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:54:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22105; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:54:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from orm-mail20.orem.novell.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22083; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:53:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from orm-mail20.orem.novell.com (151.155.118.32 -> orm-mail20.orem.novell.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:53:58 -0500 Received: from note (lef1.bht.novell.com [164.99.41.42]) by orm-mail20.orem.novell.com; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 16:53:28 -0700 Message-ID: <005e01bf58a1$38bb6f50$2a2963a4@bht.novell.com> From: "Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop" To: Subject: Big hard drives for ThinkPads Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:52:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I have a 560X (which is great, by the way) with a 4GB hard drive and I need a bigger disk. From what I can see, if I'm going to do it, I might as well do it big, so I was looking for a 10GB disk. A quick look at shopper.com leads me to the "Procom" 10GB disk. Beyond that, I know nothing about the topic. Does anybody have any recommendations or warnings? -Larry- From cph Thu Jan 6 19:16:50 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA20032 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:16:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23608; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:11:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23526; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:11:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot008.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23509; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:11:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot008.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.108 -> pilot008.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:11:30 -0500 Received: from andres (port38.annarbor01.tir.com [216.40.148.177]) by pilot008.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA10170; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:11:14 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000106191101.00a94970@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 19:11:01 -0500 To: "Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop" , From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Big hard drives for ThinkPads In-Reply-To: <005e01bf58a1$38bb6f50$2a2963a4@bht.novell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have repeatedly heard from disk fanatics that IBM makes the best small drives. Given that I haven't had any disk failures with IBM disks, but have had with others, that wisdom seems to be true. I'd stick with IBM stuff for your IBM machine. Thats what I plan on doing when I decide to upgrade either my i 1451 or i 1480. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 06:52 PM 1/6/2000 -0500, Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop wrote: >I have a 560X (which is great, by the way) with a 4GB hard drive and I need >a bigger disk. From what I can see, if I'm going to do it, I might as well >do it big, so I was looking for a 10GB disk. A quick look at shopper.com >leads me to the "Procom" 10GB disk. > >Beyond that, I know nothing about the topic. Does anybody have any >recommendations or warnings? > >-Larry- From cph Thu Jan 6 21:54:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA21014 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:54:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00883; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:52:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:51:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00739; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:51:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00725; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:51:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (216.98.165.6) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:51:46 -0500 Received: by BIGRED with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:54:48 -0600 Message-ID: <195C527E2345D311A97C009027856AB8095A84@BIGRED> From: Greg Langham To: "'STeve Andre''" , Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Big hard drives for ThinkPads Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:54:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: FWIW - My 600e came with a Hitachi 10 GB drive, not and IBM. I was disappointed, but it's been working fine. Greg -----Original Message----- From: STeve Andre' [mailto:andres@msu.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 6:11 PM To: Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Big hard drives for ThinkPads I have repeatedly heard from disk fanatics that IBM makes the best small drives. Given that I haven't had any disk failures with IBM disks, but have had with others, that wisdom seems to be true. I'd stick with IBM stuff for your IBM machine. Thats what I plan on doing when I decide to upgrade either my i 1451 or i 1480. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 06:52 PM 1/6/2000 -0500, Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop wrote: >I have a 560X (which is great, by the way) with a 4GB hard drive and I need >a bigger disk. From what I can see, if I'm going to do it, I might as well >do it big, so I was looking for a 10GB disk. A quick look at shopper.com >leads me to the "Procom" 10GB disk. > >Beyond that, I know nothing about the topic. Does anybody have any >recommendations or warnings? > >-Larry- From cph Thu Jan 6 22:00:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA21033 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:00:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01347; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:58:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:58:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01272; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:58:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot017.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01259; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:58:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot017.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.117 -> pilot017.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:58:29 -0500 Received: from andres (port38.annarbor01.tir.com [216.40.148.177]) by pilot017.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA15394 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:58:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000106215824.00a97d10@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 21:58:24 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: RE: Big hard drives for ThinkPads In-Reply-To: <195C527E2345D311A97C009027856AB8095A84@BIGRED> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Yeah, that happens from time to time. Must be "spot pricing" or something like that. As long as they don't use seagate drives... --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 08:54 PM 1/6/2000 -0600, Greg Langham wrote: >FWIW - > >My 600e came with a Hitachi 10 GB drive, not and IBM. I was disappointed, >but it's been working fine. > >Greg > >-----Original Message----- >From: STeve Andre' [mailto:andres@msu.edu] >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 6:11 PM >To: Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Re: Big hard drives for ThinkPads > > >I have repeatedly heard from disk fanatics that IBM makes the best small >drives. Given that I haven't had any disk failures with IBM disks, but >have had with others, that wisdom seems to be true. I'd stick with IBM >stuff for your IBM machine. Thats what I plan on doing when I decide to >upgrade either my i 1451 or i 1480. > >--STeve Andre' >andres@msu.edu > >At 06:52 PM 1/6/2000 -0500, Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop wrote: >>I have a 560X (which is great, by the way) with a 4GB hard drive and I need >>a bigger disk. From what I can see, if I'm going to do it, I might as well >>do it big, so I was looking for a 10GB disk. A quick look at shopper.com >>leads me to the "Procom" 10GB disk. >> >>Beyond that, I know nothing about the topic. Does anybody have any >>recommendations or warnings? >> >>-Larry- > > From cph Thu Jan 6 23:59:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA21572 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:59:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07007; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:58:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:57:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06891; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:57:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06873; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (206.165.6.132 -> smtp02.primenet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:57:27 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00755 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:57:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from bailout-02.phx.primenet.com(206.132.239.152), claiming to be "747" via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpdAAASEaqDb; Thu Jan 6 21:57:14 2000 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000106215131.00c1c5b0@pop.primenet.com> X-Sender: cgruttke@pop.primenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 21:57:15 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Chris Gruttke Subject: opinions on i1480 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I was thinking of retiring the 560 I currently have and get i1480. Does anyone have any personal thoughts on this machine. I am aware of no drivers for NT but I have no problem just running win98. Any word if there are plans for drivers for Win 2000. Any bad or annoying things about this machine? Thanks Chris From cph Fri Jan 7 00:24:36 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA21720 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:24:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08130; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:22:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08037; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08024; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:22:42 -0500 Received: from worldnet.att.net ([12.72.57.57]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with ESMTP id <20000107052158.TXKB2478@worldnet.att.net>; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 05:21:58 +0000 Message-ID: <387577A7.6B2BD8C6@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 21:20:39 -0800 From: Frank Janik Reply-To: f.s.janik@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-WNS2.5 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Gruttke CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: opinions on i1480, little brother i1420 References: <4.2.2.20000106215131.00c1c5b0@pop.primenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: uncle Frank Here I put my 755ce in part time retirement, went to the store and ordered me up this box like thing called IBM Model i 1420 ThinkPad. Three Days Later Brown Santa Pulled Up To My Door (UPS) and Forced Me To Sign For This Box. To Make a Short Story Even Shorter, I Flat Love It. I Have No Gripes, comes loaded from Big Blue With Win98 2nd Edition, lots of nice little goodies, (no Junk). I Give It My 5 STAR Rating. you get what you pay for Uncle Frank Chris Gruttke wrote: > > I was thinking of retiring the 560 I currently have and get i1480. Does > anyone have any personal thoughts on this machine. I am aware of no drivers > for NT but I have no problem just running win98. Any word if there are > plans for drivers for Win 2000. Any bad or annoying things about this machine? > > Thanks > Chris From cph Fri Jan 7 01:39:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA21972 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:39:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14160; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:37:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14028; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14015; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (198.206.134.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:37:47 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-67.gate.net [199.227.20.130]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA170016; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:36:27 -0500 Message-ID: <38758981.642C7D14@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 01:36:49 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Snyder CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: flaking "blackness" References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: "They" may try to say that the acid in your sweat is sulpherous, and thus NOT under warranty, you must respond that you wear white gloves and NEVER NEVER sweat anyway.. :-) yes, it is, or should be, by now, a well known problem in the 770 series.. Bob Snyder wrote: > The black area on the palm rest area on my 770 is flaking off, showing > a greenish-gray surface below. Is this something that would be covered > by the warranty, or does it exclude such "cosmetic" damage? > > Bob -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Fri Jan 7 01:39:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA21974 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:39:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14156; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:37:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13984; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13971; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (198.206.134.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:37:39 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-67.gate.net [199.227.20.130]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA135230; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:37:36 -0500 Message-ID: <387589C7.FADAFB9D@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 01:37:59 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kaste CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: need Thinkpad parts References: <000901bf587f$19ccb440$d5c74b0c@kaste> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: your 760C has the Mwave DSP.. all you SHOULD need is the proper drivers for the particular OS that you're using.. Kaste wrote: > I need the little D-chip that will enable sound on a 760C ThinkPad laptop. > Mine doesn't contain one, and I want sound without needing the pcmcia sound > card. Does anyone know where to purchase one? > > Thanks > Garrett. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Fri Jan 7 01:46:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA22012 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:46:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14523; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:41:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14450; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:41:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14437; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:41:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (198.206.134.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:41:29 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-67.gate.net [199.227.20.130]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA38066; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:41:27 -0500 Message-ID: <38758AAD.A7273376@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 01:41:49 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Big hard drives for ThinkPads References: <005e01bf58a1$38bb6f50$2a2963a4@bht.novell.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the 600 will support the new 18gig drive.. $550+ sadly, these are very tough to come by.. also support the 12gig, as well as the 10gig.. $400 & $339 respectively.. Apricorn also has thinkpad proven drive upgrades.. whats a Procom ? Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop wrote: > I have a 560X (which is great, by the way) with a 4GB hard drive and I need > a bigger disk. From what I can see, if I'm going to do it, I might as well > do it big, so I was looking for a 10GB disk. A quick look at shopper.com > leads me to the "Procom" 10GB disk. > > Beyond that, I know nothing about the topic. Does anybody have any > recommendations or warnings? > > -Larry- -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Fri Jan 7 01:48:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA22039 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:48:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14813; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:43:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14739; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14726; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (198.206.134.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:43:45 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-67.gate.net [199.227.20.130]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA89016; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 01:43:42 -0500 Message-ID: <38758B34.BAA7F803@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 01:44:04 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "STeve Andre'" CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Big hard drives for ThinkPads References: <3.0.6.32.20000106215824.00a97d10@pilot.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: IRT Hitachi in the 600E, its availability, not, i think, "spot" pricing.. even though IBM Storage Systems treats the rest of IBM the same way they treat DELL, et al... STeve Andre' wrote: > Yeah, that happens from time to time. Must be "spot pricing" or something > like that. As long as they don't use seagate drives... > > --STeve Andre' > andres@msu.edu > > At 08:54 PM 1/6/2000 -0600, Greg Langham wrote: > >FWIW - > > > >My 600e came with a Hitachi 10 GB drive, not and IBM. I was disappointed, > >but it's been working fine. > > > >Greg > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: STeve Andre' [mailto:andres@msu.edu] > >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 6:11 PM > >To: Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > >Subject: Re: Big hard drives for ThinkPads > > > > > >I have repeatedly heard from disk fanatics that IBM makes the best small > >drives. Given that I haven't had any disk failures with IBM disks, but > >have had with others, that wisdom seems to be true. I'd stick with IBM > >stuff for your IBM machine. Thats what I plan on doing when I decide to > >upgrade either my i 1451 or i 1480. > > > >--STeve Andre' > >andres@msu.edu > > > >At 06:52 PM 1/6/2000 -0500, Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop wrote: > >>I have a 560X (which is great, by the way) with a 4GB hard drive and I need > >>a bigger disk. From what I can see, if I'm going to do it, I might as well > >>do it big, so I was looking for a 10GB disk. A quick look at shopper.com > >>leads me to the "Procom" 10GB disk. > >> > >>Beyond that, I know nothing about the topic. Does anybody have any > >>recommendations or warnings? > >> > >>-Larry- > > > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Fri Jan 7 03:31:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA22361 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 03:31:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19648; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 03:29:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 03:28:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19512; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 03:28:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19499; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 03:28:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 03:28:57 -0500 Received: from JeanneS (lai-ca5c-248.ix.netcom.com [206.216.82.248]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA30083 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 03:28:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <018201bf58ea$8414a400$f852d8ce@JeanneS> From: "Jeanne Snelson" To: Subject: 701C modem not working Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:38:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: We have a great 701C with all the original equipment (14.4 internal modem, 720 hd, 16 ram, etc). Everything had been working fine. Windows 95A has been on the machine for several years, with no problems. The machine had a 1995 bios, and we recently installed the latest available bios (ver. 3o - dated 2-16-96). After the bios installation the modem no longer works, and the computer freezes up whenever a connection is attempted. This is true when trying to dial up our service provider, get on line or access e-mail. When we tried to use just the telephone dialer, the same thing happens. Does anyone have any ideas? Could the latest bios be the problem? Our next attempt is to try a PC card modem, but thought we'd check with the list first. Thanks for any help. Jeanne From cph Fri Jan 7 04:37:59 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA22529 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:37:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22400; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:35:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22314; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot023.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22301; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot023.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.123 -> pilot023.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:35:33 -0500 Received: from andres (port24.annarbor01.tir.com [216.40.148.163]) by pilot023.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA45304 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:35:29 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000107043537.00a9a850@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 04:35:37 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: opinions on i1480 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000106215131.00c1c5b0@pop.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have one. I got it around December the 8th, and after it accumulated some frequent flier miles on Airborne going back to think repair facility three times, I've come to like it a lot. First, the story of its problems. When I got the unit, I was busy with Y2K insanity and basically the unit just sat on my desk, crunching away on some problems for me but wasn't moved. When I did move it, I discovered a rattling noise in the bottom of the unit, towards the back, sounding like a screw was loose. Before I could do anything about it, said screw become welded to some part of the thinkpads circuitry and I could smell smoke... Sending it back to the repair place was a reasonably pleasent experience, as I got it back after one day there. The unit was OK, but I found that when plugged into AC, the modem had SEVERE 60Hz hum on it and would not work. On batteries the modem was fine. This weirded the IBM people out, but they took it back. I got it again, and all was well, except that the battery was charging at a rate of 0.5% per hour. So off to the repair facility a third time, and this time, it came back, and everything is perfect! In all three cases the DC/DC card had to be replaced. This means that the two replacement DC/DC cards they had in stock were defective, which doesn't make me feel great, and of course the unit wasn't built as well as it should have been, in that there was a screw loose initially. However, having said that, the unit is a real joy to use now, and the little "ThinkLight" is useful besides being cute! The one change they've made to the unit (compared to other i series units) that reeks are the four special colored buttons which are programmable. On my 1451 and 1472, they are the F5 to F7 keys; here on the 1480 they are these sad little buttons, which sort of work, but aren't great. The travel they exhibit is not good. How they could have let this go out into the field is beyond me. It is the one cheesy part of the 1480's design, but the only one that I see. So, overall I am happy with the unit. As with the 1451 and 1472, this 1480 came with a perfect screen, no pixels blown. The 1451 has a 13.3" display and the 1480 has a 14.1--that extra difference is noticable when I have the two sitting by each other as I do now. The disk is *quiet*, compared to the 1451! The 1451 disk was always noisy, and is worse now, but the 1480 is much better. The unit comes with a Li ON battery, and with no power saving options turned on I can get about 90 minutes of life out of it. As with the 1451, I suspect that battery life will considerably improve once I do the usual tricks of dimming the screen and turning the battery off, but I haven't had time yet to really play with it. My 1480 was fine in this regard, but some 1480's (and 1460's too) emit a whining sound in either the left or both speakers. Apparently this is a capacitor in the USB circuit, and there is a software patch which corrects this and makes it go away. So if your 1480 sounds like a mouse in distress there is a cure for it. Even with my initial problems with my unit, I would recomend it to others. IBM *DID* fix things, finally, and do stand behind their products. The problems I experienced are endemic to the market we live in I'm afraid, as I've seen an increase in problems in all the computing equipment I buy--design times are shorter than they once were, and the pressure to shave a few pennies here and there have made for an increase in problems for everything as I see it. Two other things. The unit has a Win Modem, which I have a little more respect for than a "real" modem, in that when line conditions are good, the connect rates are actually pretty decent. Because I'm going to put OpenBSD on my 1480, I've started to accumulate some 'real' PCMCIA modei, and I must say that while they all do a better job at connect rates on a bad phone line, none of them connect as well as the TP's modem does when conditions are good. If anyone has a PCMCIA modem that works better than the Lucent modem does under good conditions, please mail me. The last point is that adding more memory to this 1480 *may* be something of a problem. The 1472 I got last year had the bizarre problem of simply not being willing to take extra memory, even though IBM took the unit and changed out the system board. I never tried the "IBM proven" brands, but the 64M dimm that didn't work in the 1472 worked so well in my own 1451 that I transferred it to mine. I have heard someone say that they thought the 1480 was like the 1472, with only specific brands working. Now, I can't speak to that directly, but take that as a heads up. Anyway, my two cents. I bought this 1480 with my own money, and I'm not sorry I did. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 09:57 PM 1/6/2000 -0700, Chris Gruttke wrote: >I was thinking of retiring the 560 I currently have and get i1480. Does >anyone have any personal thoughts on this machine. I am aware of no drivers >for NT but I have no problem just running win98. Any word if there are >plans for drivers for Win 2000. Any bad or annoying things about this machine? > >Thanks >Chris From cph Fri Jan 7 04:51:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA22558 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:51:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23022; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:50:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:49:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22926; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:49:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22909; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:49:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:49:54 -0500 Received: from [139.142.112.220] (helo=139-142-112-220.islandnet.com) by mail.islandnet.com with SMTP id 126W1n-0004eE-00 ; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 01:49:51 -0800 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: jeannes@ix.netcom.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C modem not working Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 01:33:12 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <018201bf58ea$8414a400$f852d8ce@JeanneS> In-Reply-To: <018201bf58ea$8414a400$f852d8ce@JeanneS> Lines: 43 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: There was a problem with freezing after being connected a while, which could be dealt with by a modem initialization string. But yours doesn't sound like that. I have used bios o for almost 4 years. At the beginning I was using the internal modem. It worked OK. Later I upgraded to an IBM 33.6 modem, and have been very happy. At the time, they were available cheaply on ebay. Bonne chance! In article <018201bf58ea$8414a400$f852d8ce@JeanneS>, you wrote: >We have a great 701C with all the original equipment (14.4 internal modem, >720 hd, 16 ram, etc). Everything had been working fine. Windows 95A me too! > has >been on the machine for several years, with no problems. The machine had a >1995 bios, and we recently installed the latest available bios (ver. 3o - >dated 2-16-96). > >After the bios installation the modem no longer works, and the computer >freezes up whenever a connection is attempted. This is true when trying to >dial up our service provider, get on line or access e-mail. When we tried >to use just the telephone dialer, the same thing happens. > >Does anyone have any ideas? Could the latest bios be the problem? Our next >attempt is to try a PC card modem, but thought we'd check with the list >first. > >Thanks for any help. > >Jeanne > > -- cheers Jonathan From cph Fri Jan 7 11:49:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA24127 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:48:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23626; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:45:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:43:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23465; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.infoave.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23438; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.infoave.net (165.166.0.26 -> smtp01.InfoAve.Net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:43:12 -0500 Received: from dial-6.r6.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net ("port 1030"@[207.144.129.148]) by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) with SMTP id <01JKF76QR21W8WYG1I@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:43:02 EST Received: by dial-6.r6.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net with Microsoft Mail id <01BF5904.8972B300@dial-6.r6.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net>; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 11:44:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 11:24:24 -0500 From: Stan Jacobs Subject: RE: Big hard drives for ThinkPads To: "'STeve Andre''" , THINKPADcsutkedu Message-id: <01BF5904.8972B300@dial-6.r6.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: What is the deal with Seagate drives. I thought they were real good drives. Stan Jacobs ---------- From: STeve Andre'[SMTP:andres@msu.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 9:58 PM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Big hard drives for ThinkPads Yeah, that happens from time to time. Must be "spot pricing" or something like that. As long as they don't use seagate drives... --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 08:54 PM 1/6/2000 -0600, Greg Langham wrote: >FWIW - > >My 600e came with a Hitachi 10 GB drive, not and IBM. I was disappointed, >but it's been working fine. > >Greg > >-----Original Message----- >From: STeve Andre' [mailto:andres@msu.edu] >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 6:11 PM >To: Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Re: Big hard drives for ThinkPads > > >I have repeatedly heard from disk fanatics that IBM makes the best small >drives. Given that I haven't had any disk failures with IBM disks, but >have had with others, that wisdom seems to be true. I'd stick with IBM >stuff for your IBM machine. Thats what I plan on doing when I decide to >upgrade either my i 1451 or i 1480. > >--STeve Andre' >andres@msu.edu > >At 06:52 PM 1/6/2000 -0500, Larry Feigen - MyRealbox - Pop wrote: >>I have a 560X (which is great, by the way) with a 4GB hard drive and I need >>a bigger disk. From what I can see, if I'm going to do it, I might as well >>do it big, so I was looking for a 10GB disk. A quick look at shopper.com >>leads me to the "Procom" 10GB disk. >> >>Beyond that, I know nothing about the topic. Does anybody have any >>recommendations or warnings? >> >>-Larry- > > From cph Fri Jan 7 13:55:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA24935 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:55:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02947; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:51:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:50:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02778; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from spamraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02755; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from spamraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.217.142 -> as-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:50:07 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.1) id NAA09563 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:50:06 -0500 (EST) Sender: bbender@compuserve.com Received: from brianbnt5 (isdn242.vocollect.com [209.166.154.242]) by spamraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.1) with SMTP id NAA09531 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:50:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian Bender" To: Subject: RE: flaking "blackness" Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:48:10 -0500 Message-ID: <008801bf593f$bebcf710$59051fac@brianbnt5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: <38758981.642C7D14@icanect.net> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: 600's, too. :-( - Brian Bender TP600 - PII 300, 224MB RAM, 10GB HDD, NT5 / Slackware 7 > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 1:37 AM > To: Bob Snyder > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: flaking "blackness" > > > "They" may try to say that the acid in your sweat is > sulpherous, and thus > NOT under warranty, you must respond that you wear white > gloves and NEVER > NEVER sweat anyway.. :-) > > yes, it is, or should be, by now, a well known problem in the > 770 series.. > > Bob Snyder wrote: > > > The black area on the palm rest area on my 770 is flaking > off, showing > > a greenish-gray surface below. Is this something that would > be covered > > by the warranty, or does it exclude such "cosmetic" damage? > > > > Bob > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > > From cph Fri Jan 7 14:57:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA25338 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:57:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06695; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:47:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06583; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:47:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06570; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:47:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.42 -> mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:47:28 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.73]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000107194725.VOMG1891@kaste> for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:47:25 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01bf5947$b7364340$49c74b0c@kaste> Reply-To: "Kaste" From: "Kaste" To: References: <000901bf587f$19ccb440$d5c74b0c@kaste> <387589C7.FADAFB9D@icanect.net> Subject: Re: need Thinkpad parts Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:45:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: What there is is a slot at the left side that near the power switch that you can slide off a panel and insert a chip. What I know i need is that chip that is absent. Thanks Garrett. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morrow To: Kaste Cc: Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 1:37 AM Subject: Re: need Thinkpad parts > your 760C has the Mwave DSP.. > all you SHOULD need is the proper drivers for the particular OS that you're > using.. > > Kaste wrote: > > > I need the little D-chip that will enable sound on a 760C ThinkPad laptop. > > Mine doesn't contain one, and I want sound without needing the pcmcia sound > > card. Does anyone know where to purchase one? > > > > Thanks > > Garrett. > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > From cph Fri Jan 7 15:19:50 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA25529 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:18:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09151; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:16:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09074; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09059; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:16:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.17 -> mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:16:20 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.73]) by mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000107201618.GVGT8291@kaste> for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:16:18 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01bf594b$c0c94b60$49c74b0c@kaste> Reply-To: "Kaste" From: "Kaste" To: Subject: 730T and pcmcia cards... Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:14:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: I have a 730T thinkpad. It is running Windows 95 B. I have a Linksys NP10T 10baseT network card and Hayes 33.6 modem. I have the proper pcmcia drivers, Dan's drivers(other 730T owners know who Im talking about). I get an error by windows that the device is not working properly. The Code2 error. I know that all the drivers are correct and all protocals are set up for networking. I belive it may have something to do with the bios. Has anyone else had this problem or know a way to fix it? Thanks, Garrett BTW... I have a network at school, and 35 computers that I need to set up each 22 network printers on. This takes about an hour for a single computer. Is there a way with windows to copy the printers to another computer. They have a network for transfer. Thanks again, Garrett. From cph Fri Jan 7 15:43:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA25735 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:43:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10751; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:38:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10677; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:38:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot019.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10664; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:38:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot019.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.119 -> pilot019.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:38:47 -0500 Received: from andres (port03.annarbor01.tir.com [216.40.148.4]) by pilot019.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA53354 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:38:37 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000107153842.00aa9a30@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 15:38:42 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: RE: Big hard drives for ThinkPads In-Reply-To: <01BF5904.8972B300@dial-6.r6.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I know there are people who will wildly and flamingly disagree with me on this, but I still think that overall, Seagate drives (and quantum, now that they're owned by Seagate) are of less well built than other drives. Over time I have seen more seagate drives go than others. This is not to say that the others haven't had problems, because they have. But overall, Seagates for me at least have proven themselves to be less reliable than IBM, Fujitsu, and Western Digital. I can however point out that IBM's 800M SCSI disks of 1992 were a disaster, Fujitsu had a ~ 1G disk that was bad and WD had a 1.6G disk that wasn't any good, so anyone can produce bad stuff. In talking with friends who deal with lots of computers, I've made a few of them queasy about them, too, after going over various disasters they've encountered. I will say that the "Seagate factor" has gotten better. I don't think their drives are as likely to die now as they once did, say in the last couple of years or so. But that still doesn't make me feel good about them. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 11:24 AM 1/7/2000 -0500, Stan Jacobs wrote: >What is the deal with Seagate drives. I thought they were real good drives. > >Stan Jacobs > From cph Fri Jan 7 15:54:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA25861 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:54:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11912; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:50:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11813; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:50:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11779; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:50:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (171.64.14.23 -> smtp.Stanford.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:50:29 -0500 Received: from stanford.edu (banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.66.3.116]) by smtp.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/L) with ESMTP id MAA21423; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:50:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38765190.94969073@stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 12:50:24 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "STeve Andre'" CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Big hard drives for ThinkPads References: <3.0.6.32.20000107153842.00aa9a30@pilot.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: One thing about Quantum is that Quantum itself does not make any drives - they are OEM'd from another Japanese company. I forgot the name, but the point is that they are like Dell's laptop division in that they make nothing - they just put the Quantum sticker on the drive. So if Seagate keeps the same suppliers for Quantum, which I think they will, there should be no change in the quality of Quantum-branded drives. I have had only one problem with a Quantum, a 5.25" 1.2GB Bigfoot I purchased that went bad in less than a year. Replaced it with a 3.5" 3.2GB IBM, no problems. IMHO it's worth the extra few $ for an IBM drive. YMMV for 2.5" drives of course. The 120MB Connor drive the Bigfoot replaced was still working fine the last time I used it (as a backup when the Bigfoot failed). Benjamin STeve Andre' wrote: > > I know there are people who will wildly and flamingly disagree with me on > this, but I still think that overall, Seagate drives (and quantum, now > that they're owned by Seagate) are of less well built than other drives. > > Over time I have seen more seagate drives go than others. This is not to > say that the others haven't had problems, because they have. But overall, > Seagates for me at least have proven themselves to be less reliable than > IBM, Fujitsu, and Western Digital. I can however point out that IBM's 800M > SCSI disks of 1992 were a disaster, Fujitsu had a ~ 1G disk that was bad and > WD had a 1.6G disk that wasn't any good, so anyone can produce bad stuff. > > In talking with friends who deal with lots of computers, I've made a few of > them queasy about them, too, after going over various disasters they've > encountered. > > I will say that the "Seagate factor" has gotten better. I don't think > their drives are as likely to die now as they once did, say in the last > couple of years or so. But that still doesn't make me feel good about them. > > --STeve Andre' > andres@msu.edu > > At 11:24 AM 1/7/2000 -0500, Stan Jacobs wrote: > >What is the deal with Seagate drives. I thought they were real good drives. > > > >Stan Jacobs > > From cph Fri Jan 7 16:47:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA26308 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:47:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15638; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:43:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15530; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15517; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:43:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:43:44 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax43.vramp.net [198.138.8.106]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA11443; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:43:27 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Kaste" , Subject: RE: need Thinkpad parts Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:47:53 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <001b01bf5947$b7364340$49c74b0c@kaste> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Kaste [mailto:jkaste@worldnet.att.net] wrote: > What there is is a slot at the left side that near the power switch that you > can slide off a panel and insert a chip. What I know i need is that chip > that is absent. The problem with this question Garrett is that the DSP is on the _right_ side of the planar. It's not a chip that can be removed at will. What makes you so sure that your unit doesn't have the DSP installed? Have you attempted to initialize it in setup? Have you tested it in setup? What OS are you running? Perhaps you simply need to install some drivers. Regards, James the Elder From cph Fri Jan 7 16:51:24 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA26345 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:51:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16118; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:48:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16044; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:48:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15994; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:48:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:48:31 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax43.vramp.net [198.138.8.106]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA11884; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:48:18 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "STeve Andre'" , Subject: RE: Big hard drives for ThinkPads Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:52:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000107153842.00aa9a30@pilot.msu.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: STeve Andre' [mailto:andres@msu.edu] wrote: > I know there are people who will wildly and flamingly disagree with me on > this, but I still think that overall, Seagate drives (and quantum, now > that they're owned by Seagate) are of less well built than other drives. You won't get an argument from me Steve. My first choices in HDs are either IBM or WD, everything else comes after them with Maxtor and Seagate at the absolute bottom of the barrel. My experience with Seagate over the years can be summed up in one word. Abysmal! Regards, James the Elder From cph Fri Jan 7 17:32:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA26649 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:32:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18894; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:30:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18796; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:30:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18549; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:25:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:25:53 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-13.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.13]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA15003; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:25:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000107172745.01404e40@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 17:27:45 -0800 To: Benjamin Koh , "STeve Andre'" From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Big hard drives for ThinkPads Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <38765190.94969073@stanford.edu> References: <3.0.6.32.20000107153842.00aa9a30@pilot.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:50 PM 01/07/2000 -0800, Benjamin Koh wrote: >I have had only one problem with a Quantum, a 5.25" 1.2GB Bigfoot I >purchased that went bad in less than a year. Replaced it with a 3.5" >3.2GB IBM, no problems. IMHO it's worth the extra few $ for an IBM >drive. YMMV for 2.5" drives of course. The 120MB Connor drive the >Bigfoot replaced was still working fine the last time I used it (as a >backup when the Bigfoot failed). We had numerous 5.25" Big Foot 1.2gig drives fail in Compaq Deskpro P133's and P166's. It was easily 1 out of every 7. >STeve Andre' wrote: >> >> I know there are people who will wildly and flamingly disagree with me on >> this, but I still think that overall, Seagate drives (and quantum, now >> that they're owned by Seagate) are of less well built than other drives. So true. I've seen numerous Seagate drives go belly up with a much higher failure rate than other drives we've deployed outside of bigfoot units. Heck, I had a personal Seagate 2.1gig Medalist unit go belly up. ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Fri Jan 7 17:47:50 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA26719 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:47:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20056; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:46:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:45:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19972; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:45:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19957; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.18 -> cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:45:40 -0500 Received: from default - 63.27.184.41 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:45:40 -0800 Message-ID: <003501bf5960$044ab2c0$29b81b3f@default> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Think" Subject: Corporate Lease Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:39:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Hey these guy's on Ebay say all the laptops are Corporate Lease computers. where the heck do they get them? How do you know they are legit? brad From cph Fri Jan 7 17:57:39 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA26765 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:57:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20864; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:55:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:55:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20768; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20755; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:55:14 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (209.38.73.28 -> snowmass.leopard.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:55:14 -0500 Subject: Re: Corporate Lease To: "Brad Burean" Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 23:03:59 GMT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on snowmass/Leopard(Release 5.0 |March 30, 1999) at 01/07/2000 04:04:04 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: All that means to me is that they are used, and were used by corporate employees. We buy some of our computers on leases, others outright. It's an accounting exercise. ssh "Brad Burean" .msn.com> cc: Subject: Corporate Lease 01/07/2000 03:39 PM Hey these guy's on Ebay say all the laptops are Corporate Lease computers. where the heck do they get them? How do you know they are legit? brad From cph Fri Jan 7 18:05:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA26846 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:05:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21602; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:03:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21522; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:03:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ares.actionwebs.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21508; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ares.actionwebs.net (208.244.215.3 -> dns1.actionwebs.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:03:20 -0500 Received: from ccs ([208.244.215.242]) by ares.actionwebs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA13458; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:58:36 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Mark Lemon" To: "'Chris Gruttke'" , Subject: RE: opinions on i1480 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:59:19 -0600 Message-ID: <000d01bf596b$36bea620$7700a8c0@ccs.candid.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000106215131.00c1c5b0@pop.primenet.com> List-Unsubscribe: Chris, I couldn't find an i box promising W2k when choosing laptops #3 and #4 recently...however, the Dell Latitude CPt, Celeron 466, 14.1" screen, 4.8Gb, 128Mb RAM, 56K 3Com modem, NT4.0 with a coupon for W2K when it ships. It has the touchpad and the pointstick, 2 spindle unit, and SVGA out to boot. $2,810. I love my TP's but... Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Gruttke [mailto:cgruttke@globalcenter.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 10:57 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: opinions on i1480 > > > I was thinking of retiring the 560 I currently have and get > i1480. Does > anyone have any personal thoughts on this machine. I am aware > of no drivers > for NT but I have no problem just running win98. Any word if > there are > plans for drivers for Win 2000. Any bad or annoying things > about this machine? > > Thanks > Chris > > From cph Fri Jan 7 18:44:14 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA27066 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:44:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23509; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:42:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:42:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23435; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23421; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:42:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:42:37 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax43.vramp.net [198.138.8.106]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA21854; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:42:36 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: , "Brad Burean" Subject: RE: Corporate Lease Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:47:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <003501bf5960$044ab2c0$29b81b3f@default> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Brad Burean [mailto:Burean@email.msn.com] wrote: > Hey these guy's on Ebay say all the laptops are Corporate Lease computers. > where the heck do they get them? How do you know they are legit? The company my wife works for leases several thousand laptops annually and has a constant turnover as they upgrade on a rolling basis every three years. When the leases expire we are normally given the option of purchasing the units at very attractive prices. So far I've purchased 2 TP600s this way. The same thing goes for her company car, which we _always_ purchase due to the attractive pricing and the fact that I know the vehicle's history. (OK, we didn't purchase her '96 Blazer because it was a lemon!) Many of the laptops you see on eBay could very well be legitimate lease returns. Regards, James the Elder From cph Fri Jan 7 18:47:11 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA27088 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:47:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23906; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:45:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:45:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23749; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:45:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23701; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:45:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:45:01 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.12.213]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000107234459.CUYA4888@compaq>; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:44:59 +0000 Message-ID: <38767A5D.7D9F@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 18:44:29 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Burean CC: Think Subject: Re: Corporate Lease References: <003501bf5960$044ab2c0$29b81b3f@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: When you get a pallett load of 760EL's, all configured the same, they ain't all lifted from the airport! When was the last time you saw a 770 for sale in a retail store? Here in NYC, only J&R and Excel even stock them. They are corporate laptops, and that's who buys them. The large mail order houses that sell them (like PC MALL) sell them to large companys more than individuals. After all, how many of us can afford a $5000 laptop if we don't at least get a tax write off? Brad Burean wrote: > > Hey these guy's on Ebay say all the laptops are Corporate Lease computers. > where the heck do they get them? How do you know they are legit? > > brad From cph Fri Jan 7 18:50:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA27101 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:50:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24330; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:48:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:48:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24244; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:48:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24227; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:48:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:48:17 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.12.213]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000107234815.CWCE4888@compaq>; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:48:15 +0000 Message-ID: <38767B21.6B76@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 18:47:45 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James H. E. Maugham" CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, Brad Burean Subject: Re: Corporate Lease References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: And lately there have been P133 and P166 760's all over the place. This is the end of their three year cycle! James H. E. Maugham wrote: > > Brad Burean [mailto:Burean@email.msn.com] wrote: > > > Hey these guy's on Ebay say all the laptops are Corporate Lease computers. > > where the heck do they get them? How do you know they are legit? > > The company my wife works for leases several thousand laptops annually and has a > constant turnover as they upgrade on a rolling basis every three years. > > When the leases expire we are normally given the option of purchasing the units > at very attractive prices. So far I've purchased 2 TP600s this way. The same > thing goes for her company car, which we _always_ purchase due to the attractive > pricing and the fact that I know the vehicle's history. (OK, we didn't purchase > her '96 Blazer because it was a lemon!) > > Many of the laptops you see on eBay could very well be legitimate lease returns. > > Regards, > > James the Elder From cph Fri Jan 7 19:33:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA27283 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:33:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26256; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:30:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26176; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:30:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26162; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:30:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:30:05 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.181]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000108003003.FQFP2478@kaste> for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 00:30:03 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01bf596f$39b26de0$b5c74b0c@kaste> Reply-To: "Kaste" From: "Kaste" To: References: Subject: Re: need Thinkpad parts Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:28:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: I know there is no chip there because I removed the cover and there wasn't anything there. Underneath the keyboard, right above where you inset the chip, there is a little picture showing the chip and how to insert it. Thanks, Garrett. ----- Original Message ----- From: James H. E. Maugham To: Kaste ; Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 4:47 PM Subject: RE: need Thinkpad parts > Kaste [mailto:jkaste@worldnet.att.net] wrote: > > > What there is is a slot at the left side that near the power switch that you > > can slide off a panel and insert a chip. What I know i need is that chip > > that is absent. > > The problem with this question Garrett is that the DSP is on the _right_ side of > the planar. > > It's not a chip that can be removed at will. What makes you so sure that your > unit doesn't have the DSP installed? > > Have you attempted to initialize it in setup? Have you tested it in setup? > > What OS are you running? Perhaps you simply need to install some drivers. > > Regards, > > James the Elder > > From cph Fri Jan 7 19:38:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA27307 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:38:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26663; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:36:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26587; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26568; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:36:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:36:26 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (hetherington.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.16.3]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10323; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:32:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <387684D6.DF7E9D56@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 19:29:11 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Bell CC: Benjamin Koh , "STeve Andre'" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Big hard drives for ThinkPads References: <3.0.6.32.20000107153842.00aa9a30@pilot.msu.edu> <3.0.6.32.20000107172745.01404e40@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Interesting. Network Appliance uses Seagate 10,000rpm Cheetahs in their high-end fileservers (we have two with a total of 57 drives). Perhaps Seagate's high-end drives are better than their low-end drives? --Lee Hetherington From cph Fri Jan 7 20:02:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA27436 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:02:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27858; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:00:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:59:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27723; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:59:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27709; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.239 -> out4.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:59:44 -0500 Received: from basterfield.com ([139.92.215.85]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <20000108005937239023eiope>; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 00:59:38 +0000 Message-ID: <38768B97.95A93B18@basterfield.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 00:57:59 +0000 From: Daniel Basterfield Organization: My middle name! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad mailing list CC: Chris Gruttke Subject: Re: opinions on i1480 References: <4.2.2.20000106215131.00c1c5b0@pop.primenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: As far as I am aware, the whole i-series is the range of ThinkPads contracted out to Acer. I had nasty experiences in the early days with ThinkPad 310's and 365's, also Acer products; I hope they have sorted out their quality and materials by now, but personally I'd only touch a 'real' IBM machine. Superficially part of the ThinkPad range, internally rather disappointing. I evaluated an i-series about six months ago for a colleague at work; looked great on paper, then I went down to the local PC superstore to get a feel for the machine. Crap, plasticy thing. I went from "yeah - that looks like a decent machine" to "buy a Toshiba" almost instantly. Personal opinion, Dan. -- Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" OS/2 Certified Engineer Microsoft Certified Professional ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm From cph Fri Jan 7 20:10:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA27481 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:10:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28323; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:08:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:08:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28248; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:08:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28234; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:08:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.239 -> out4.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:08:09 -0500 Received: from basterfield.com ([139.92.194.62]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <20000108010802239038hseie>; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 01:08:05 +0000 Message-ID: <38768D92.46627252@basterfield.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 01:06:26 +0000 From: Daniel Basterfield Organization: My middle name! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James H. E. Maugham" CC: Kaste , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: need Thinkpad parts References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > > Kaste [mailto:jkaste@worldnet.att.net] wrote: > > > What there is is a slot at the left side that near the power switch that you > > can slide off a panel and insert a chip. What I know i need is that chip > > that is absent. > > The problem with this question Garrett is that the DSP is on the _right_ side of > the planar. Hang on - is this like the 755CX and 755CD, where you'd find a blanking plate on some models by the power switch. Yes, the DSP may be located to the right hand side, but the connectors were off to the left. If you ordered the telephony option, you got, amongst the cables, a 1" long part which sat inside the case, under the keyboard, on the upper left and provided the external mini-DIN socket for the DSP telephony cables. (Onto this you'd plug the short cable to the rectangular country-specific box, out of which came the telephony cable that you'd plug into the wall socket.) My experiences were with European machines; I believe from some of the machines I saw from the US that this internal 1" plug ended in an RJ-45 socket flush on the left hand side of the machine; us Europeans needed seperate country kits to satisfy local legislation regarding telephony equipment. Certainly, many models were sold without any of this telephony kit as it was a seperately orderable option. Dan. -- Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" OS/2 Certified Engineer Microsoft Certified Professional ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm From cph Fri Jan 7 20:24:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA27598 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:24:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29226; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:23:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:22:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29151; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from aztec.fuse.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29132; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:22:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from aztec.fuse.net (216.68.1.55 -> aztec.fuse.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:22:47 -0500 Received: from mnptp (nile-275.fuse.net [216.68.121.21]) by aztec.fuse.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA05814 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:23:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000b01bf5977$1688fd40$530be10a@mnptp> From: "Mike Prunty" To: Subject: Help with W2K RC2 & TP600E & Int modem Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:24:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF594D.2D64FC50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF594D.2D64FC50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Help, I'm trying to install W2K RC2 and can't get my modem drivers to = work. I think I've gotten all the latest files from the TP website but = I'm stuck. Anybody else got tried this. -mike ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF594D.2D64FC50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Help, I'm trying to install W2K RC2 and = can't get=20 my modem drivers to work. I think I've gotten all the latest files from = the TP=20 website but I'm stuck.  Anybody else got tried this.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF594D.2D64FC50-- From cph Fri Jan 7 20:28:59 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA27642 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:28:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29614; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:27:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:27:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29539; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:27:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ntserver2.invention-machine.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29526; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:27:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ntserver2.invention-machine.com (12.30.60.66) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:27:08 -0500 Received: from alexkirkovsky (1Cust234.tnt21.bos2.da.uu.net [63.17.3.234]) by ntserver2.invention-machine.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id ZXMJZKJJ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:16:13 -0500 Message-ID: <03f501bf5977$73de6c00$fe48163f@alexkirkovsky> Reply-To: "Alex Kirkovsky" From: "Alex Kirkovsky" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: TV PCCard Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:26:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03F2_01BF594D.8A0E2580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03F2_01BF594D.8A0E2580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, I would like to see TV on my laptop. Who does know appropriate pccard for that? Thank you in advance. Regards, Alex Kirkovsky ------=_NextPart_000_03F2_01BF594D.8A0E2580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi there,
 
I would like to see TV on my laptop.
Who does know appropriate pccard for = that?
 
Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Alex Kirkovsky
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_03F2_01BF594D.8A0E2580-- From cph Fri Jan 7 20:33:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA27681 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:33:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00049; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:31:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:31:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29917; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29904; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:31:33 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.53.164]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000108013131.GJQX2478@compaq>; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 01:31:31 +0000 Message-ID: <38769356.D3C@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 20:31:02 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Kirkovsky CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: TV PCCard References: <03f501bf5977$73de6c00$fe48163f@alexkirkovsky> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: TV to GO www.margi.com Alex Kirkovsky wrote: > > Hi there, > > I would like to see TV on my laptop. > Who does know appropriate pccard for that? > > Thank you in advance. > > Regards, > Alex Kirkovsky > > From cph Fri Jan 7 21:09:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA27850 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:09:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01935; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:07:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01827; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:07:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01812; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:06:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:06:54 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax43.vramp.net [198.138.8.106]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA04347; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:06:53 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Kaste" , Subject: RE: need Thinkpad parts Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:11:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <001a01bf596f$39b26de0$b5c74b0c@kaste> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Garrett Kaste [mailto:jkaste@worldnet.att.net] wrote: > I know there is no chip there because I removed the cover and there wasn't > anything there. Underneath the keyboard, right above where you inset the > chip, there is a little picture showing the chip and how to insert it. I fear we have a problem with semantics. On the _left_ side of the 760C are the following items: headphone jack, microphone/line in jack, modem/fax port, power switch and what IBM calls an option cover. To the best of my knowledge this option cover is used _solely_ with the TV tuner. It is _not_ for a DSP chip. But, I've been wrong before! I'll ask again. Have you tried testing the DSP in setup? If the DSP is missing >from this unit the test will be greyed out and non-functional. What OS are you running? Regards, James the Elder From cph Fri Jan 7 21:54:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA28106 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:54:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03721; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:51:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:51:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03622; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03600; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:51:15 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.247]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000108025112.FCNE4888@kaste> for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:51:12 +0000 Message-ID: <001401bf5982$e4fbf000$f7c74b0c@kaste> Reply-To: "Kaste" From: "Kaste" To: References: <001a01bf596f$39b26de0$b5c74b0c@kaste> Subject: Re: need Thinkpad parts Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:48:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: I purchased this laptop second hand from a company in London. I was told this was not sold with sound. I do not know what anyone is talking about DSP???? What is that. And what is Mwave. I looked at IBMs web page and they do not have the drivers listed under 760C. Does anyone know where to get them? Thanks a lot Garrett. From cph Fri Jan 7 22:13:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA28181 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:13:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04668; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:10:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04548; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:10:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04535; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.42 -> mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:10:27 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.247]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000108031024.BKKI1891@kaste> for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 03:10:24 +0000 Message-ID: <006401bf5985$944a8f60$f7c74b0c@kaste> Reply-To: "Kaste" From: "Kaste" To: Subject: RE: need Thinkpad parts Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:08:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: OK, I have just talked to a friend and now I understand what everyone here is talking about. I ran the test and I have a DSP. I also found that one IBM's web site, but there is no drivers for it, does anyone have drivers for a Mwave DSP for a 760C???Please... I am running windows98 Thanks everyone for your time and patients. Garrett. From cph Fri Jan 7 22:54:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA28291 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:54:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06113; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:48:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:48:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06039; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot012.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06026; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:48:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot012.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.112 -> pilot012.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:48:18 -0500 Received: from andres (port39.annarbor01.tir.com [216.40.148.178]) by pilot012.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA50822 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:48:02 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000107224807.00aab1e0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 22:48:07 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: opinions on i1480 In-Reply-To: <38768B97.95A93B18@basterfield.com> References: <4.2.2.20000106215131.00c1c5b0@pop.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion on things, but there are some good reasons why the external case is plastic. Weight, strength and durability are among them. Remember the 770 (and others) problem of the flaking paint on the palm rests, etc? That will never happen on the i Series. The plastic is pretty rugged, too--I've had a few (cough) experiences with their coming to the floor unexpectedly, and they've all come through OK. But perhaps the best test of a laptop is to look in places like comp. sys.laptop and look for people's complaints about their units. LOTS of people complain about things like their disks making more and more noise over time, and some complaints on things like the screen hinges and keyboards, but I haven't heard many comments about the case having problems or peices falling off, etc. I think the real test for these units will be how many are still in good working order five years from now. I think they'll do OK, but I have several years to wait on this one. I think the i series is a reasonable one. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 12:57 AM 1/8/2000 +0000, Daniel Basterfield wrote: >As far as I am aware, the whole i-series is the range of ThinkPads >contracted out to Acer. I had nasty experiences in the early days with >ThinkPad 310's and 365's, also Acer products; I hope they have sorted >out their quality and materials by now, but personally I'd only touch a >'real' IBM machine. Superficially part of the ThinkPad range, internally >rather disappointing. > >I evaluated an i-series about six months ago for a colleague at work; >looked great on paper, then I went down to the local PC superstore to >get a feel for the machine. Crap, plasticy thing. I went from "yeah - >that looks like a decent machine" to "buy a Toshiba" almost instantly. > >Personal opinion, >Dan. >-- >Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" >OS/2 Certified Engineer >Microsoft Certified Professional >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm > > From cph Fri Jan 7 23:03:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA28331 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:03:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06647; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:57:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06573; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:57:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06560; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.19 -> cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:57:20 -0500 Received: from default - 63.27.183.116 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:57:20 -0800 Message-ID: <000901bf598b$8c632fe0$74b71b3f@default> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Think" Subject: Still Looking Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:50:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I'm still looking for these items for my 560, 2640-20U. A 12.1 TFT display, a floppy drive port cover, and the left "mouse clicker doo-hicky". Thanks. Brad From cph Fri Jan 7 23:18:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA28370 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:18:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07561; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:13:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:12:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07450; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07436; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:12:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:12:37 -0500 Received: from user-38lclek.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lclek.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.85.212]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA18474 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:12:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001080412.XAA18474@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 23:11:01 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000107153842.00aa9a30@pilot.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Big hard drives for ThinkPads List-Unsubscribe: Ever since I crashed a Seagate drive while fooling around with acceleration software, I have been leery of them, even if the fatal "tink" sound resulted >from my own best efforts . On Fri, 07 Jan 2000 15:38:42 -0500, STeve Andre' wrote: >I know there are people who will wildly and flamingly disagree with me on >this, but I still think that overall, Seagate drives (and quantum, now >that they're owned by Seagate) are of less well built than other drives. From cph Fri Jan 7 23:31:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA28423 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:31:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08481; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:25:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:25:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08396; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:25:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08377; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:25:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:25:08 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.16.83]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000108042505.GDVL4888@compaq>; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:25:05 +0000 Message-ID: <3876BC03.52EF@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 23:24:35 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kaste CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: need Thinkpad parts References: <006401bf5985$944a8f60$f7c74b0c@kaste> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The MWAVE drivers are indeed on the web site. Look for the device driver matrix. All the 760's use the same MWAVE drivers. They are listed under AUDIO. Kaste wrote: > > OK, I have just talked to a friend and now I understand what everyone here > is talking about. > > I ran the test and I have a DSP. > > I also found that one IBM's web site, but there is no drivers for it, does > anyone have drivers for a Mwave DSP for a 760C???Please... I am running > windows98 > > Thanks everyone for your time and patients. > Garrett. From cph Fri Jan 7 23:38:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA28465 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:38:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08975; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:31:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08892; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:31:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08879; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:31:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:31:43 -0500 Received: from user-38lclek.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lclek.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.85.212]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA28459 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:31:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001080431.XAA28459@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 23:30:05 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <006401bf5985$944a8f60$f7c74b0c@kaste> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: need Thinkpad parts List-Unsubscribe: Go to http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3PGTDY.html?lang=en_US&page=brand&bra nd=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+760CD%7C9546%7C4Y5&family=IBM+ThinkPad%7 CThinkPad+760CD&machineType=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+760CD%7C9546&m odel=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+760CD%7C9546%7C4Y5&doctype=Hot+news&su btype=All&up=%25%25q7X9J7ZCXQ7fXxeeBtK&ut=loginCount%3D4%26productCount %3D3%26lastLoginDate%3D2000-01-07-23.26.12.093054%26type1%3D9546%26userI D%3D%26greeting%3DWelcome%2Bback%252C%2BMr.%2BBallard%26brand%3D IBM%2BThinkPad%26family%3DThinkPad%2B760CD%26model1%3D4Y5 and check for 760C/CD. MWAVE drivers are there for dose9x. If the URL above is a bit long, then enter http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/tpopsys.html and select your 760C model. Allan Ballard 760CD p120 64Mb 3.0 gig 760XL p133 104Mb 3.0 gig On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:08:02 -0500, Kaste wrote: >OK, I have just talked to a friend and now I understand what everyone here >is talking about. > >I ran the test and I have a DSP. > >I also found that one IBM's web site, but there is no drivers for it, does >anyone have drivers for a Mwave DSP for a 760C???Please... I am running >windows98 > >Thanks everyone for your time and patients. >Garrett. > From cph Sat Jan 8 02:55:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA29014 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:55:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15357; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:49:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:48:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15217; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15059; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:44:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:44:15 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-35.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.35]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA01230 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:44:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000108024654.0080cda0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 02:46:54 -0800 To: ThinkPad mailing list From: Mark Bell Subject: New IBM Utility Configuration Program (770/600 series) In-Reply-To: <38768B97.95A93B18@basterfield.com> References: <4.2.2.20000106215131.00c1c5b0@pop.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Released 1/7/2000: Windows98: ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/uttpfw98.exe WindowsNT: ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/uttpfwnt.exe ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Sat Jan 8 02:56:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA29018 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:56:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15588; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:50:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15392; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:50:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15186; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:46:14 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-35.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.35]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA01299 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:46:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000108024854.0080acb0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 02:48:54 -0800 To: ThinkPad mailing list From: Mark Bell Subject: 100Mhz vs. 66Mhz memory In-Reply-To: <38768B97.95A93B18@basterfield.com> References: <4.2.2.20000106215131.00c1c5b0@pop.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: We ordered a few 390x's, and a couple of 390x/600x 100Mhz 128meg upgrades. Just because we like to geek out, we will be trying various modules between the 390x/390/770ed/770z units we have (or will have) within the next few weeks. Machines: 390x/390/770ed/770z Memory: 128meg Kingston 100mhz and 66mhz parts. Well see how it all works out! :) Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Sat Jan 8 03:22:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA29053 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 03:22:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18173; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 03:17:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 03:15:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17953; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 03:15:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17939; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 03:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (134.102.224.3 -> bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 03:15:28 -0500 Received: from henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (postfix@henker.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.219.172]) by bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA02951 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 09:15:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.217.97]) by henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF67A104C for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2000 09:17:41 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 09:17:38 +0100 (MET) From: Steffan Henke X-Sender: henker@henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Big hard drives for ThinkPads In-Reply-To: <387684D6.DF7E9D56@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id DAA18173 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id DAA29054 On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, I Lee Hetherington wrote: > Interesting. Network Appliance uses Seagate 10,000rpm Cheetahs in their > high-end fileservers (we have two with a total of 57 drives). Perhaps > Seagate's high-end drives are better than their low-end drives? This MAY indeed be true, but I don´t use Seagates anymore. I actually have good experiences with the new WD EIDE drives (2 megs cache). Seagate drives have failed too often for me. Regards, Steffan -- ... Our continuing mission: To seek out knowledge of C, to explore strange UNIX commands, and to boldly code where no one has man page 4. From cph Sat Jan 8 04:52:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA29239 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:52:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22641; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:46:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:45:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22510; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:45:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ogopogo.flash.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22490; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:45:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ogopogo.flash.net (209.30.2.14 -> ogopogo.flash.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:45:01 -0500 Received: from s9i5e3 (216-215-85-217.flash.net [216.215.85.217]) by ogopogo.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA23108 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 03:45:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000a01bf59bd$04d01520$d955d7d8@s9i5e3> From: "wrench" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Com1 on 560X Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 03:44:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I need to activate com1 on my 560x for a cable connection. Is com1 reserved for the mouse? Can I change it? thanks, tom From cph Sat Jan 8 08:06:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA29784 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 08:06:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02912; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 08:04:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 08:03:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02758; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 08:03:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02745; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 08:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (134.102.224.3 -> bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 08:03:09 -0500 Received: from henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (postfix@henker.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.219.172]) by bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA11590 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:03:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.217.97]) by henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931FF104C for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2000 14:05:23 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:05:20 +0100 (MET) From: Steffan Henke X-Sender: henker@henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Com1 on 560X In-Reply-To: <000a01bf59bd$04d01520$d955d7d8@s9i5e3> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id IAA02912 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id IAA29785 On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, wrench wrote: > I need to activate com1 on my 560x for a cable connection. Is com1 reserved > for the mouse? Can I change it? You should try to disable infrared and enable the serial port via IBM´s config utility. After a reboot, com1 should appear in the device manager. Regards, Steffan -- ... Our continuing mission: To seek out knowledge of C, to explore strange UNIX commands, and to boldly code where no one has man page 4. From cph Sat Jan 8 11:31:36 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA30178 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:31:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08643; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:30:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:30:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08566; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08552; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.62 -> smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:30:03 -0500 Received: from r7a006661ax.hlb.cable.rcn.com ([209.122.66.230] helo=ppro) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 126ykY-00061h-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:29:59 -0500 Received: by ppro (VPOP3) with SMTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:29:50 -0500 Message-ID: <0a1201bf59f5$92a74ac0$0d00a8c0@dec5200> From: "R Briganti" To: Subject: AC Adapters Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:29:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0b - Registered to: Belle Mead Claims List-Unsubscribe: I am amazed at how many different AC adapters IBM has for its ThinkPads. At least by part number they seem different, but if the plug (TP side, i.e. 2 wire or 4), voltage (in and out) and amperage are the same, are they interchangeable? Bob From cph Sat Jan 8 11:54:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA30221 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:54:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09422; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:52:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09347; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09334; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:52:17 -0500 Received: from user-38ld32r.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38ld32r.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.140.91]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01526 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:52:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001081652.LAA01526@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 11:50:41 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <0a1201bf59f5$92a74ac0$0d00a8c0@dec5200> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Battery Behaviour List-Unsubscribe: The battery in my "new" TP760XL is obstinate. It will run along just fine, then suddenly go from a remaining percentage to zero and shut itself down. I have gotten it to move from shutdowns at 46% to 30%. Maybe with some more workouts it will move on down where it should be? FWIW I have Windows OSR2 power management switched to ON as the TP utility did not seem to do as good a job. Allan Ballard From cph Sat Jan 8 13:02:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA30378 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:02:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12489; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:01:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12402; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12367; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:01:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.62 -> smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:01:23 -0500 Received: from 216-164-128-123.s123.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.128.123] helo=potassium) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 1270B0-0007T4-00 for THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:01:22 -0500 Message-ID: <38777A46.7826@erols.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 12:56:22 -0500 From: Rick Rodman Reply-To: ricker@erols.com Organization: Purple Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: subscription request References: <200001080618.BAA12739@CS.UTK.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > The FAQ for this group is available for anonymous ftp from > swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu, directory pub/archive/thinkpad/faq > (URL: ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu/archive/thinkpad/faq/ ) > Thanks to Sean Chou for maintaining the FAQ. > These URLs in the welcome message are incorrect. They should be ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu/pub/thinkpad/faq/ and same with archive. > There's also an archive of the past traffic on the list in > ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu/archive/thinkpad/archive > > and there's another archive of the digests beginning with Dec of > 1997 in > ftp://www.cs.utk.edi/pub/judi/thinkpad-archive > > Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, > how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), > and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST > address -- if you reply to this message, it goes to the wrong place!) I am one of the purchasers of the 730T thinkpads being sold by Global Monitor Solutions at very low prices. From cph Sat Jan 8 13:02:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA30382 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:02:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12410; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:00:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12293; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:00:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12279; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:00:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (198.144.192.5 -> shell.tsoft.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:00:36 -0500 Received: from NewPad (m205-90.dsl.tsoft.com [198.144.205.90]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA27670 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:00:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael Geary" To: Subject: RE: Big hard drives for ThinkPads (SEAGATE?????) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:00:34 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200001080412.XAA18474@smtp6.mindspring.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: After this lengthy discussion of Seagate drives, I have one question: How many 2.5" notebook drives does Seagate make? -Mike From cph Sat Jan 8 13:13:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA30414 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:13:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13259; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:12:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13167; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:12:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13154; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:12:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:12:05 -0500 Received: from thinkpad1721i (user-33qt93a.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.164.106]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA27254 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:12:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007401bf5a03$b9cbb4c0$6aa4aec7@thinkpad1721i> From: "Chuck S." To: References: <000d01bf596b$36bea620$7700a8c0@ccs.candid.com> Subject: Re: opinions on i1480 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:11:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Nice laptop, but you cannot purchase an extended warranty from IBM's EZ-Serv for the i Series. That sucks. Chuck From cph Sat Jan 8 13:32:53 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA30458 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:32:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14309; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:31:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:30:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14203; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14177; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (24.128.1.71 -> chmls06.mediaone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:30:40 -0500 Received: from Laptop (h008019357f7a.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.150.141]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA04195 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:30:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeffrey Baker" To: Subject: RE: opinions on i1480 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:30:24 -0500 Message-ID: <002a01bf5a06$6defd100$0200a8c0@Laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000107224807.00aab1e0@pilot.msu.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I have complaints about IBM hard drives getting louder over time, and not with the i1480, but with the 14 gig on the 770z. I'm on my third hard drive for this machine and it's much louder than when I installed it. Each of the first two hard drives started out quiet and got noisy (whine). I'm living/working with it this time around, but it's ridiculous to have to put up with this kind of noise in a work environment. -- Jeff > >-----Original Message----- >From: STeve Andre' [mailto:andres@msu.edu] >Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 10:48 PM >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Re: opinions on i1480 > >But perhaps the best test of a laptop is to look in places like comp. >sys.laptop and look for people's complaints about their units. LOTS of >people complain about things like their disks making more and more noise >over time, and some complaints on things like the screen hinges and >keyboards, but I haven't heard many comments about the case having >problems or peices falling off, etc. > > From cph Sat Jan 8 14:12:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA30546 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:12:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16298; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:10:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16020; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16007; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:10:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.61 -> smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:10:04 -0500 Received: from 216-164-130-136.s517.tnt2.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.130.136] helo=win98diane) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 1271FS-0007Nq-00 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:10:03 -0500 Message-ID: <003d01bf5a0b$f87328e0$8882a4d8@win98diane> From: "You Don't Know" To: Subject: USB for 701CS Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:10:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: I have been looking into a PCMCIA USB port(s). I have seen a few and they all seem to say that they require a Type II Cardbus slot. Are the PCMCIA slots in the 701CS this type of slot? Thanks. Rusty From cph Sat Jan 8 14:13:00 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA30550 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:13:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16302; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:11:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16186; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from area54.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16168; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:11:07 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from area54.net (205.177.191.50 -> mercury.mcummings.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:11:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by area54.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01324; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:11:13 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:11:12 -0500 (EST) To: "Chuck S." cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: opinions on i1480 In-Reply-To: <007401bf5a03$b9cbb4c0$6aa4aec7@thinkpad1721i> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I got one for my i1720.. Got it when the system was purchased directly from IBM in Nov 1998. On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Chuck S. wrote: > Nice laptop, but you cannot purchase an extended warranty from IBM's EZ-Serv > for the i Series. That sucks. > > Chuck > From cph Sat Jan 8 14:50:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA30659 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:50:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17855; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:48:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17769; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17756; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:48:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:48:30 -0500 Received: from thinkpad1721i (user-33qt82s.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.160.92]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA23118; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:48:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002701bf5a11$304d9d40$5ca0aec7@thinkpad1721i> From: "Chuck S." To: Cc: References: Subject: Re: opinions on i1480 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:47:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Mike, You were smart to buy it when you did. They are not available for the i Series since about August 99. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Chuck S." Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 1:11 PM Subject: Re: opinions on i1480 | | I got one for my i1720.. | Got it when the system was purchased directly from IBM in Nov 1998. | | | On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Chuck S. wrote: | | > Nice laptop, but you cannot purchase an extended warranty from IBM's EZ-Serv | > for the i Series. That sucks. | > | > Chuck | > | From cph Sat Jan 8 14:52:50 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA30669 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:52:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18084; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:50:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17997; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:50:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17984; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:50:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:50:52 -0500 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA20978; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:50:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:50:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" To: "You Don't Know" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: USB for 701CS In-Reply-To: <003d01bf5a0b$f87328e0$8882a4d8@win98diane> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Yes -- it's actually two type II slots, or one type III slot. You should be fine. -Ken On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, You Don't Know wrote: > Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:10:02 -0500 > From: You Don't Know > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: USB for 701CS > > I have been looking into a PCMCIA USB port(s). I have seen a few and they > all seem to say that they require a Type II Cardbus slot. Are the PCMCIA > slots in the 701CS this type of slot? Thanks. > > Rusty > > > From cph Sat Jan 8 15:01:04 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA30696 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:01:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18607; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:59:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18533; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18519; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.17 -> mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:59:32 -0500 Received: from 203.chicago-03-04rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.149.203]) by mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000108195930.SMFM8291@203.chicago-03-04rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:59:30 +0000 From: Emanuel@Brown.org (Emanuel Brown) To: Subject: Re: USB for 701CS Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 20:03:14 GMT Message-ID: <387997dc.30326759@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <003d01bf5a0b$f87328e0$8882a4d8@win98diane> In-Reply-To: <003d01bf5a0b$f87328e0$8882a4d8@win98diane> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id PAA30697 On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:10:02 -0500, you wrote: >I have been looking into a PCMCIA USB port(s). I have seen a few and they >all seem to say that they require a Type II Cardbus slot. Are the PCMCIA >slots in the 701CS this type of slot? Thanks. No, the slots in the 701 aren't CardBus compatible. Emanuel Portable Computing FAQ - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01 Sony VAIO 505 info - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/sony505.html Join the 505 Mailing List - http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/sony505 eFax phone # - 801-328-3789 From cph Sat Jan 8 15:50:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA30807 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:50:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20178; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:45:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:45:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20104; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:45:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20091; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:45:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.42 -> mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:45:28 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.233]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000108204525.JFLS1891@kaste> for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:45:25 +0000 Message-ID: <001401bf5a18$fc5f9260$e9c74b0c@kaste> Reply-To: "Kaste" From: "Kaste" To: References: <003d01bf5a0b$f87328e0$8882a4d8@win98diane> <387997dc.30326759@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> Subject: 730T and pcmcia cards Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:43:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone out there got pcmcia cards to work on there 730T thinkpad? I have 2 cards, a Linksys 10bt ethernet card and a Hayes 33.6 modem I cannot get to work. I have installed Windows95 with all the nessary pcmcia support and drivers for the cards. I get a Code2 error in device manager, saying tha card dosent work....does anyone know what to do? Thanks Garrett Kaste. From cph Sat Jan 8 16:12:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA30862 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:12:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21126; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:11:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:11:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21052; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21039; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:11:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:11:04 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.14.252]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000108211103.MWTV4888@compaq>; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 21:11:03 +0000 Message-ID: <3877A7CA.5AE6@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 16:10:34 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Battery Behaviour References: <200001081652.LAA01526@smtp6.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I think that's the sign of a battery that's on the way out! Allan wrote: > > The battery in my "new" TP760XL is obstinate. > > It will run along just fine, then suddenly go from > a remaining percentage to zero and shut itself > down. > > I have gotten it to move from shutdowns at > 46% to 30%. Maybe with some more workouts > it will move on down where it should be? > > FWIW I have Windows OSR2 power management > switched to ON as the TP utility did not seem > to do as good a job. > > Allan Ballard From cph Sat Jan 8 16:15:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA30873 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:15:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21363; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:13:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21282; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:13:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21268; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:13:17 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.14.252]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000108211316.MXIQ4888@compaq>; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 21:13:16 +0000 Message-ID: <3877A850.4A51@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 16:12:48 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "You Don't Know" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: USB for 701CS References: <003d01bf5a0b$f87328e0$8882a4d8@win98diane> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You can't have Cardbus unless you have PCI bus, which the 701 DOES NOT HAVE. You can't do USB on this machine (now someone will probably prove me wrong!) You Don't Know wrote: > > I have been looking into a PCMCIA USB port(s). I have seen a few and they > all seem to say that they require a Type II Cardbus slot. Are the PCMCIA > slots in the 701CS this type of slot? Thanks. > > Rusty From cph Sat Jan 8 16:20:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA30890 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:20:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21008; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:10:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:10:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20919; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:10:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20906; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:10:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:10:22 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.14.252]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000108211019.MWPW4888@compaq>; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 21:10:19 +0000 Message-ID: <3877A79F.154B@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 16:09:51 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: R Briganti CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: AC Adapters References: <0a1201bf59f5$92a74ac0$0d00a8c0@dec5200> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Generally speaking, if the plug fits, wear it! R Briganti wrote: > > I am amazed at how many different AC adapters IBM has for its ThinkPads. At > least by part number they seem different, but if the plug (TP side, i.e. 2 > wire or 4), voltage (in and out) and amperage are the same, are they > interchangeable? > > Bob From cph Sat Jan 8 16:35:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA30933 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:35:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22492; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:34:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22396; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22380; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:34:08 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.14.252]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000108213404.NCJB4888@compaq> for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 21:34:04 +0000 Message-ID: <3877AD2F.3213@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 16:33:35 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: SoftDVD and 770's References: <200001081652.LAA01526@smtp6.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone found an updated SoftDVD with a brightness control that will work on the 770 with the Enhanced Video Adaptor? From cph Sat Jan 8 17:12:24 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA31005 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:12:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23971; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:11:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:10:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23845; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23832; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:10:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:10:37 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.14.252]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000108221035.NLCO4888@compaq> for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:10:35 +0000 Message-ID: <3877B5BF.41A0@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 17:10:07 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: SoftDVD and 770's References: <200001081652.LAA01526@smtp6.mindspring.com> <3877AD2F.3213@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Or, does anyone know how to get the DVD express player working with hardware acceleration? I have the drivers, and the name of the enhanced video adaptor changes in device manager, but the player is not using the hardware. Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > Has anyone found an updated SoftDVD with a brightness control that will > work on the 770 with the Enhanced Video Adaptor? From cph Sat Jan 8 17:19:38 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA31028 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:19:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24538; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:18:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:18:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24456; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:18:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot002.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24443; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:18:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot002.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.102 -> pilot002.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:18:31 -0500 Received: from andres (port35.annarbor02.tir.com [216.40.151.36]) by pilot002.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA69164 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:18:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000108171823.00aabbf0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 17:18:23 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: opinions on i1480 In-Reply-To: <002701bf5a11$304d9d40$5ca0aec7@thinkpad1721i> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Actually, I think it was earlier than that, as when I got my 1451 in April '98, I couldn't get an extended warrenty from IBM. However, when I got both my ThinkPads from Corporate Raider, they had GE service contracts and I got them for both units. They're three year extentions on the warrrenty. Perhaps others can get a such a contract with GE? --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 01:47 PM 1/8/2000 -0600, Chuck S. wrote: >Mike, > >You were smart to buy it when you did. They are not available for the i >Series since about August 99. > >Chuck > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: "Chuck S." >Cc: >Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 1:11 PM >Subject: Re: opinions on i1480 > > >| >| I got one for my i1720.. >| Got it when the system was purchased directly from IBM in Nov 1998. >| >| >| On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Chuck S. wrote: >| >| > Nice laptop, but you cannot purchase an extended warranty from IBM's >EZ-Serv >| > for the i Series. That sucks. >| > >| > Chuck >| > >| > > > From cph Sat Jan 8 17:23:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA31051 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:23:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24843; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:22:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24755; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:22:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot003.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24741; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot003.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.103 -> pilot003.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:22:38 -0500 Received: from andres (port35.annarbor02.tir.com [216.40.151.36]) by pilot003.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA11080; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:22:32 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000108172229.00aaec60@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 17:22:29 -0500 To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: SoftDVD and 770's In-Reply-To: <3877B5BF.41A0@worldnet.att.net> References: <200001081652.LAA01526@smtp6.mindspring.com> <3877AD2F.3213@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: If you find out, please do tell the group! It was my understanding that you can't do this, given that the player does decompression in software and having hardware around would confuse things. At least thats what I understand it to be. Anyway, a 770 just came into my life and its owner was asking me about DVD stuff and making it better so I have a newfound interest in DVDs on 770s... Thanks, --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 05:10 PM 1/8/2000 -0500, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >Or, does anyone know how to get the DVD express player working with >hardware acceleration? >I have the drivers, and the name of the enhanced video adaptor changes >in device manager, but the player is not using the hardware. > >Bruce Markowitz wrote: >> >> Has anyone found an updated SoftDVD with a brightness control that will >> work on the 770 with the Enhanced Video Adaptor? From cph Sat Jan 8 17:28:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA31067 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:28:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25355; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:27:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:27:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25243; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:27:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25230; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:27:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:27:02 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.14.252]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000108222700.NPBL4888@compaq>; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:27:00 +0000 Message-ID: <3877B997.693B@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 17:26:31 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "STeve Andre'" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: SoftDVD and 770's References: <200001081652.LAA01526@smtp6.mindspring.com> <3877AD2F.3213@worldnet.att.net> <3.0.6.32.20000108172229.00aaec60@pilot.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: If you look on the IBM web site, there are drivers for use "only" with DVD express, as opposed to SoftDVD. I don't know if this applies to the second version of the EVA (770Z and above I think), rather than the one that goes into the P200 770. I also use a Margi card, which solves that particular problem (brightness), although it does not display anamorphic DVD titles as well as the EVA (but a whole lot easier to see!). STeve Andre' wrote: > > If you find out, please do tell the group! It was my understanding > that you can't do this, given that the player does decompression in > software and having hardware around would confuse things. At least > thats what I understand it to be. > > Anyway, a 770 just came into my life and its owner was asking me about > DVD stuff and making it better so I have a newfound interest in DVDs > on 770s... > > Thanks, > > --STeve Andre' > andres@msu.edu > > At 05:10 PM 1/8/2000 -0500, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > >Or, does anyone know how to get the DVD express player working with > >hardware acceleration? > >I have the drivers, and the name of the enhanced video adaptor changes > >in device manager, but the player is not using the hardware. > > > >Bruce Markowitz wrote: > >> > >> Has anyone found an updated SoftDVD with a brightness control that will > >> work on the 770 with the Enhanced Video Adaptor? From cph Sat Jan 8 18:04:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA31212 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:04:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26894; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:59:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26771; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:59:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from area54.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26758; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:59:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from area54.net (205.177.191.50 -> mercury.mcummings.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:59:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by area54.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02353 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:59:55 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:59:55 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Cummings X-Sender: michael@mercury.area54.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: opinions on i1480 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Guess I got lucky... I wonder if I can still buy a extension to it since it's currently covered?? But then with technology changes am I still going to be using it 2001??? On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Chuck S. wrote: > Mike, > > You were smart to buy it when you did. They are not available for the i > Series since about August 99. > > Chuck From cph Sat Jan 8 19:01:13 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA31365 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:01:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29117; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:59:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:59:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29023; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:59:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29010; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (206.180.224.3 -> tdl.tdl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:59:33 -0500 Received: from chuck (pm1i-202.tdl.com [206.180.234.202]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA14141 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:59:34 -0800 Message-Id: <200001082359.PAA14141@tdl.tdl.com> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:59:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: FS: 355C Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) List-Unsubscribe: I have an old (obviously ) Thinkpad 355C for sale. It has no hard drive (I pulled it and am using it as an extra for data backup) and the trackpoint doesn't work (been using an external PS/2 mouse which works fine). 486/33/8mb RAM The computer has been used almost daily up until this past week (it was our 12 year old's -- she was at the end of the great computer food chain) and was working fine when I got her a newer one. I don't want to take it apart, but if anybody wants it for parts, or screen, of system board, etc., etc., make me a reasonable offer and I'll let the whole thing go to you. If you have any questions, email me off-list, please. Chuck Blaisdell From cph Sat Jan 8 19:52:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA31481 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:52:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01037; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:50:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:50:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00962; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:50:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00948; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:50:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (24.25.227.33 -> hnlmail1.hawaii.rr.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:50:41 -0500 Received: from lava.net ([24.25.253.37]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:49:48 -1000 Message-ID: <3877DB9A.6189C371@lava.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 14:51:38 -1000 From: Keith Wong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: USB for 701CS References: <003d01bf5a0b$f87328e0$8882a4d8@win98diane> <3877A850.4A51@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: --Aren't there Parallel port to USB external adapters? I thought I saw some out at Walmart. While the USB connection may not be as fast as an onboard USB port, it will allow a 701 user with a parallel port cable or multiport to use a USB device. If I'm out at Walmart today I'll try and get a manufacture name for y'all. cheers, Keith Honolulu, Hawaii Bruce Markowitz wrote: > You can't have Cardbus unless you have PCI bus, which the 701 DOES NOT > HAVE. > You can't do USB on this machine (now someone will probably prove me > wrong!) > > You Don't Know wrote: > > > > I have been looking into a PCMCIA USB port(s). I have seen a few and they > > all seem to say that they require a Type II Cardbus slot. Are the PCMCIA > > slots in the 701CS this type of slot? Thanks. > > > > Rusty From cph Sat Jan 8 19:52:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA31485 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:52:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00620; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:44:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:44:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00523; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:44:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.cableone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00509; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.cableone.net (24.116.0.51 -> mail1.cableone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:44:03 -0500 Received: from thinkpad ([24.116.4.164]) by mail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:43:55 -0700 Message-ID: <002101bf5a3a$8b8649e0$0200a8c0@thinkpad> Reply-To: "Charles McDaniel" From: "Charles McDaniel" To: References: Subject: (Not thinkpad) but big harddrives Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:43:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id TAA00620 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id TAA31486 One note here about seagate's hard drives. Seagate's hard drives are no longer seagate hard drive's they are actually Conner hard drives seagate bought conner a few years ago and conner made really cheap drives. so seagate took over the operations and desided at make their drives as cheap as possible.. now i don't know about the high end SCSI drives this is IDE home and office drives. I know this for a fact because i to have a had to replace several harddrives for customers in the past few years and a service rep from seagate told me this..and a friend of mine bought a seagate harddrive about the time this deal went though and it showed up in the Bios and on all check programs as a conner but the case said seagate..it is now D.O.A. but seagate warrany was 5 years at that time i'm going to see about getting a replacement this week..i put him a 10.1 WD in it about 2 weeks ago..no problems YET.. Charles McDaniel 1971 Firebird 1977 Trans Am 1992 Ford (ugh) Mustang LX Convertable 5.0 written on a IBM TP 755cx old but usable fav quote: Somewhere in the Darkness.. Quake quote:don't worry about EVERYONE dies sooner or later.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steffan Henke" To: Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 2:17 AM Subject: Re: Big hard drives for ThinkPads On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, I Lee Hetherington wrote: > Interesting. Network Appliance uses Seagate 10,000rpm Cheetahs in their > high-end fileservers (we have two with a total of 57 drives). Perhaps > Seagate's high-end drives are better than their low-end drives? This MAY indeed be true, but I don´t use Seagates anymore. I actually have good experiences with the new WD EIDE drives (2 megs cache). Seagate drives have failed too often for me. Regards, Steffan -- ... Our continuing mission: To seek out knowledge of C, to explore strange UNIX commands, and to boldly code where no one has man page 4. From cph Sat Jan 8 20:38:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA31605 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:38:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02727; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:36:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02616; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:36:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02603; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:36:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:36:28 -0500 Received: from 205.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.152.205]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000109013626.PICG4888@205.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 01:36:26 +0000 From: Emanuel@Brown.org (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: USB for 701CS Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 01:40:12 GMT Message-ID: <3877e68c.10397355@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <003d01bf5a0b$f87328e0$8882a4d8@win98diane> <3877A850.4A51@worldnet.att.net> <3877DB9A.6189C371@lava.net> In-Reply-To: <3877DB9A.6189C371@lava.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id UAA31606 On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 14:51:38 -1000, you wrote: >--Aren't there Parallel port to USB external adapters? I thought I saw some >out at Walmart. There are adapters that let a USB port emulate a parallel port, but not the opposite - bear in mind that a USB port has much higher throughput and provides power for the device attached, something the parallel port can't do. Emanuel (still trying to unsubscribe) Portable Computing FAQ - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01 Sony VAIO 505 info - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/sony505.html Join the 505 Mailing List - http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/sony505 eFax phone # - 801-328-3789 From cph Sat Jan 8 20:54:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA31630 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:54:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03706; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:52:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:52:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03628; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03615; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:52:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:52:47 -0500 Received: from donald3wneu3m3 ([12.79.31.82]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000109015244.PMBA4888@donald3wneu3m3>; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 01:52:44 +0000 Message-ID: <005701bf5a44$3ab83550$521f4f0c@donald3wneu3m3> From: "Donald Mak" To: , References: <200001081652.LAA01526@smtp6.mindspring.com> <3877AD2F.3213@worldnet.att.net> <3877B5BF.41A0@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: SoftDVD and 770's Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:52:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: I would be interested to hear some answers on this as well... I have a 770ED (PII 266 with DVD-decoder) and it came with Soft_DVD. I think IBM started using MediaMatics DVD Express with the next 770 series ...the 770X and 770Z. These systems had DVD decoders as well so I would think that DVD Express would work with the decoder card but yet when I install it, play back is choppy. Donald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 5:10 PM Subject: Re: SoftDVD and 770's > Or, does anyone know how to get the DVD express player working with > hardware acceleration? > I have the drivers, and the name of the enhanced video adaptor changes > in device manager, but the player is not using the hardware. > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > Has anyone found an updated SoftDVD with a brightness control that will > > work on the 770 with the Enhanced Video Adaptor? > From cph Sat Jan 8 20:58:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA31643 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:58:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04074; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:57:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03958; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03944; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:57:13 -0500 Received: from donald3wneu3m3 ([12.79.31.82]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000109015711.PNDQ4888@donald3wneu3m3> for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 01:57:11 +0000 Message-ID: <006401bf5a44$d99f1260$521f4f0c@donald3wneu3m3> From: "Donald Mak" To: Subject: Win 2000 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:57:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01BF5A1A.F028ABB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01BF5A1A.F028ABB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I installed Win2000 on my TP and must write that this is the first MS OS = that I like. I did notice that resuming from standby, if the harddrive password is = set the screen comes up blank and you have to key in the password hoping that you don't get = it wrong...=20 Does Win2000 support DVD playback??? Donald ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01BF5A1A.F028ABB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I installed Win2000 on my TP and must = write that=20 this is the first MS OS that I like.
 
I did notice that resuming from = standby, if the=20 harddrive password is set the screen comes
up blank and you have to key in the = password hoping=20 that you don't get it wrong...
 
Does Win2000 support DVD = playback???
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0061_01BF5A1A.F028ABB0-- From cph Sat Jan 8 22:24:55 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA31889 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:24:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07163; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:23:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07057; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:23:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07043; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:23:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:23:17 -0500 Received: from user-38ld3dg.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38ld3dg.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.141.176]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00692; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:23:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001090323.WAA00692@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> From: "Allan" To: "Emanuel Brown" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 22:21:39 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <3877e68c.10397355@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: USB for 701CS List-Unsubscribe: How about serial ports? On Sun, 09 Jan 2000 01:40:12 GMT, Emanuel Brown wrote: >On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 14:51:38 -1000, you wrote: >>--Aren't there Parallel port to USB external adapters? I thought I saw some >>out at Walmart. > > There are adapters that let a USB port emulate a parallel port, but >not the opposite - bear in mind that a USB port has much higher >throughput and provides power for the device attached, something the >parallel port can't do. > Emanuel (still trying to unsubscribe) >Portable Computing FAQ - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01 >Sony VAIO 505 info - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/sony505.html >Join the 505 Mailing List - http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/sony505 >eFax phone # - 801-328-3789 From cph Sat Jan 8 23:42:12 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA32080 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:42:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11295; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:40:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11218; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:40:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11205; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:40:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (198.206.134.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:40:01 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-443.gate.net [199.227.131.252]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA37952; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:38:49 -0500 Message-ID: <38781133.A14F701F@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 23:40:20 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeanne Snelson CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C modem not working References: <018201bf58ea$8414a400$f852d8ce@JeanneS> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: try reloading windows Jeanne Snelson wrote: > We have a great 701C with all the original equipment (14.4 internal modem, > 720 hd, 16 ram, etc). Everything had been working fine. Windows 95A has > been on the machine for several years, with no problems. The machine had a > 1995 bios, and we recently installed the latest available bios (ver. 3o - > dated 2-16-96). > > After the bios installation the modem no longer works, and the computer > freezes up whenever a connection is attempted. This is true when trying to > dial up our service provider, get on line or access e-mail. When we tried > to use just the telephone dialer, the same thing happens. > > Does anyone have any ideas? Could the latest bios be the problem? Our next > attempt is to try a PC card modem, but thought we'd check with the list > first. > > Thanks for any help. > > Jeanne -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sat Jan 8 23:54:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA32113 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:54:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11974; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:53:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:53:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11899; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11886; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:53:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (198.206.134.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:53:06 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-443.gate.net [199.227.131.252]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA124236; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:51:54 -0500 Message-ID: <38781445.8BCFDE94@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 23:53:25 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Burean CC: Think Subject: Re: Corporate Lease References: <003501bf5960$044ab2c0$29b81b3f@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: At least one recent fellow, selling 600E's, is NOT legit.. he recently took at least two people.. want names.. ? Brad Burean wrote: > Hey these guy's on Ebay say all the laptops are Corporate Lease computers. > where the heck do they get them? How do you know they are legit? > > brad -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sun Jan 9 00:04:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA32165 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:04:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12621; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:03:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:03:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12511; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12486; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (198.206.134.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:03:27 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-443.gate.net [199.227.131.252]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA22660; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:02:02 -0500 Message-ID: <387816A4.66201C8@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 00:03:33 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: R Briganti CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: AC Adapters References: <0a1201bf59f5$92a74ac0$0d00a8c0@dec5200> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: generally, YES.. :-) most are international, a few are USA only.. most 4 wire are really only two wire with the trapezoid plug.. since the 760C (and earlier) some have had an interchangeable TP end.. (round and trapezoid)... R Briganti wrote: > I am amazed at how many different AC adapters IBM has for its ThinkPads. At > least by part number they seem different, but if the plug (TP side, i.e. 2 > wire or 4), voltage (in and out) and amperage are the same, are they > interchangeable? > > Bob -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sun Jan 9 00:04:53 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA32170 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:04:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12636; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:03:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:03:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12466; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from area54.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12452; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:03:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from area54.net (205.177.191.50 -> mercury.mcummings.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:03:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by area54.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03562; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:03:32 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:03:32 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Cummings X-Sender: michael@mercury.area54.net To: Bill Morrow cc: Jeanne Snelson , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C modem not working In-Reply-To: <38781133.A14F701F@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: The 701 modem is a real hardware modem. Go into the bios setup and insure that the port & irq is correct for the com port you are trying to use. I don't have my 701 handy (it's at work) but I suspect that it got set to a factory standard (or maybe disabled completely). On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Bill Morrow wrote: > try reloading windows > > Jeanne Snelson wrote: > > > We have a great 701C with all the original equipment (14.4 internal modem, > > 720 hd, 16 ram, etc). Everything had been working fine. Windows 95A has > > been on the machine for several years, with no problems. The machine had a > > 1995 bios, and we recently installed the latest available bios (ver. 3o - > > dated 2-16-96). > > > > After the bios installation the modem no longer works, and the computer > > freezes up whenever a connection is attempted. This is true when trying to > > dial up our service provider, get on line or access e-mail. When we tried > > to use just the telephone dialer, the same thing happens. > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? Could the latest bios be the problem? Our next > > attempt is to try a PC card modem, but thought we'd check with the list > > first. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > Jeanne > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > From cph Sun Jan 9 00:17:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA32211 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:17:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13406; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:16:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13333; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:16:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13319; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:16:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (198.206.134.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:16:13 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-443.gate.net [199.227.131.252]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA98988; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:14:58 -0500 Message-ID: <387819AD.9012DC29@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 00:16:29 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Cummings CC: Jeanne Snelson , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C modem not working References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hmm.. yes, of course.. the settings might have changed when the new bios went in.. reset to default and all that.. also, win9z has a nasty way of changing the bios settings and not telling you.. i've experienced that on 701 and 760C series.. Michael Cummings wrote: > The 701 modem is a real hardware modem. Go into the bios setup and insure > that the port & irq is correct for the com port you are trying to use. > > I don't have my 701 handy (it's at work) but I suspect that it got set to > a factory standard (or maybe disabled completely). > > On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Bill Morrow wrote: > > > try reloading windows > > > > Jeanne Snelson wrote: > > > > > We have a great 701C with all the original equipment (14.4 internal modem, > > > 720 hd, 16 ram, etc). Everything had been working fine. Windows 95A has > > > been on the machine for several years, with no problems. The machine had a > > > 1995 bios, and we recently installed the latest available bios (ver. 3o - > > > dated 2-16-96). > > > > > > After the bios installation the modem no longer works, and the computer > > > freezes up whenever a connection is attempted. This is true when trying to > > > dial up our service provider, get on line or access e-mail. When we tried > > > to use just the telephone dialer, the same thing happens. > > > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? Could the latest bios be the problem? Our next > > > attempt is to try a PC card modem, but thought we'd check with the list > > > first. > > > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > > > Jeanne > > > > -- > > Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sun Jan 9 03:47:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA32491 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 03:47:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21931; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 03:46:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 03:45:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21855; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 03:45:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ssiam921.softwarespectrum.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21841; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 03:45:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from ssiam921.softwarespectrum.com (192.152.152.2 -> sunfire.swspectrum.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 03:45:48 -0500 Received: by SSIAM921 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 02:45:45 -0600 Message-ID: <6DB879346436D21198C500A0C9E1E123E4995D@ssiwgn03.swspectrum.co.nz> From: Nathan Mercer To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Help with W2K RC2 & TP600E & Int modem Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 02:50:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: My modem worked fine with Professional RC2 on my 600E, I'm now using RTM and it's still working OK (had a few issues under RC3 though) Have you upgraded from a previous version or a fresh install? Exactly what files have you grabbed from the TP website, all the drivers you need for the modem are build into Win2000 Nathan -----Original Message----- From: Mike Prunty [mailto:mnprunty@fuse.net] Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2000 14:24 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Help with W2K RC2 & TP600E & Int modem Help, I'm trying to install W2K RC2 and can't get my modem drivers to work. I think I've gotten all the latest files from the TP website but I'm stuck. Anybody else got tried this. -mike From cph Sun Jan 9 08:40:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA10216 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:40:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04158; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:36:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03969; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03956; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:35:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (4.21.209.242 -> exch1.smh.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:35:58 -0500 Received: by EXCH1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:34:50 -0500 Message-ID: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1D23@EXCH1> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: "'Donald Mak '" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Win 2000 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:34:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Hi Donald, I've got DVD playing well on a 600 via a Margi DVDtogo card with beta drivers available at www.margi.com. I'm using Win2k rc2. Also, fwiw I've got DVDExpress playing DVDs smoothly on a 770ED (it came with the infamous "SoftDVD"). I assume it's using hardware acceleration, but I never really checked. To date, IBM hasn't released drivers for the EVA card, so Margi would be the way to go on the 770, too. Neil TP 600 PII266 128ram TP 770ED PII266 224ram -----Original Message----- From: Donald Mak To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sent: 1/8/00 8:57 PM Subject: Win 2000 I installed Win2000 on my TP and must write that this is the first MS OS that I like. I did notice that resuming from standby, if the harddrive password is set the screen comes up blank and you have to key in the password hoping that you don't get it wrong... Does Win2000 support DVD playback??? Donald From cph Sun Jan 9 10:28:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA10396 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:28:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06664; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:25:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06549; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:25:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06535; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:25:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.17 -> mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:25:42 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.17.60]) by mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000109152539.THI8291@compaq>; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:25:39 +0000 Message-ID: <3878A858.763B@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 10:25:12 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" CC: "'Donald Mak '" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: Win 2000 References: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1D23@EXCH1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: What did you do to get DVD express working? It must be using hardware, because a 266 is just not fast enough to decode DVD without some hardware help. Dr. Cornelius Halvey wrote: > > Hi Donald, > > I've got DVD playing well on a 600 via a Margi DVDtogo card with beta > drivers available at www.margi.com. I'm using Win2k rc2. > > Also, fwiw I've got DVDExpress playing DVDs smoothly on a 770ED (it came > with the infamous "SoftDVD"). I assume it's using hardware acceleration, > but I never really checked. To date, IBM hasn't released drivers for the EVA > card, so Margi would be the way to go on the 770, too. > > Neil > > TP 600 PII266 128ram > TP 770ED PII266 224ram > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald Mak > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Sent: 1/8/00 8:57 PM > Subject: Win 2000 > > I installed Win2000 on my TP and must write that this is the first MS OS > that I like. > > I did notice that resuming from standby, if the harddrive password is > set the screen comes > up blank and you have to key in the password hoping that you don't get > it wrong... > > Does Win2000 support DVD playback??? > > > Donald From cph Sun Jan 9 10:38:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA10411 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:38:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07250; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:36:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07095; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07056; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:36:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:36:14 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax33.vramp.net [198.138.8.96]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20330 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:36:09 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: Subject: RE: Help with W2K RC2 & TP600E & Int modem Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:41:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <6DB879346436D21198C500A0C9E1E123E4995D@ssiwgn03.swspectrum.co.nz> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Mine also, although I didn't have any problems with RC3. It's cooking along great on the RTM build and, as you say, everything for the TP600 is on the W2K CD. Hopefully Mike didn't download the W98 drivers instead of the NT4 drivers. That could cause a number of problems. Regards, James Nathan Mercer [mailto:nathan.mercer@softwarespectrum.com] wrote: > My modem worked fine with Professional RC2 on my 600E, I'm now using RTM and > it's still working OK (had a few issues under RC3 though) > Have you upgraded from a previous version or a fresh install? Exactly what > files have you grabbed from the TP website, all the drivers you need for the > modem are build into Win2000 > Mike Prunty [mailto:mnprunty@fuse.net] wrote: > > Help, I'm trying to install W2K RC2 and can't get my modem drivers to work. > I think I've gotten all the latest files from the TP website but I'm stuck. > Anybody else got tried this. From cph Sun Jan 9 11:41:13 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA10542 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:41:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09163; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:39:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:37:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09044; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:37:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09031; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:37:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:37:36 -0500 Received: from donald3wneu3m3 ([12.79.29.88]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000109163733.XGGA2478@donald3wneu3m3> for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 16:37:33 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01bf5abf$d4ea1ff0$581d4f0c@donald3wneu3m3> From: "Donald Mak" To: Subject: Win 2000 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:37:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF5A95.EB413790" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF5A95.EB413790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are there any fellow Oracle Developers on this group who have tried using Oracle Applications or tools with this new OS?=20 This is off topic so please e-mail me directly... 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Are there any fellow Oracle Developers = on this=20 group who have tried
using Oracle Applications or tools with = this new=20 OS?
 
This is off topic so please e-mail me=20 directly...
 
Donald
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF5A95.EB413790-- From cph Sun Jan 9 15:54:10 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA11467 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:54:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17311; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:46:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17044; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:46:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17024; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:46:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (216.254.0.2 -> grace.speakeasy.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:46:09 -0500 Received: from 770Z (1Cust219.tnt7.atl2.da.uu.net [63.22.64.219]) by grace.speakeasy.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA15262; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:46:03 -0800 From: "Richard Chalk" To: "Donald Mak" , , Subject: RE: SoftDVD and 770's Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:45:55 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <005701bf5a44$3ab83550$521f4f0c@donald3wneu3m3> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: There are two different drivers on the IBM web site. You have to use the proper one for the program you are running. Richard -----Original Message----- From: Donald Mak [mailto:mmak@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 8:53 PM To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: SoftDVD and 770's I would be interested to hear some answers on this as well... I have a 770ED (PII 266 with DVD-decoder) and it came with Soft_DVD. I think IBM started using MediaMatics DVD Express with the next 770 series ...the 770X and 770Z. These systems had DVD decoders as well so I would think that DVD Express would work with the decoder card but yet when I install it, play back is choppy. Donald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 5:10 PM Subject: Re: SoftDVD and 770's > Or, does anyone know how to get the DVD express player working with > hardware acceleration? > I have the drivers, and the name of the enhanced video adaptor changes > in device manager, but the player is not using the hardware. > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > Has anyone found an updated SoftDVD with a brightness control that will > > work on the 770 with the Enhanced Video Adaptor? > From cph Sun Jan 9 15:54:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA11471 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:54:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17426; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:52:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:50:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17229; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17216; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:50:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (216.254.0.2 -> grace.speakeasy.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:50:35 -0500 Received: from 770Z (1Cust219.tnt7.atl2.da.uu.net [63.22.64.219]) by grace.speakeasy.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA16322 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:50:32 -0800 From: "Richard Chalk" Cc: Subject: RE: Win 2000, DVD, Capture questions Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:50:25 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <3878A858.763B@worldnet.att.net> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I have tried unsuccessfully to get any DVD program to work on a 770Z running Windows2000, and could use some suggestions. Also, there is a driver for the Video Capture function, which installs and says it is working properly, but NetMeeting doesn't see it. Anyone have a fix for this? TIA Richard -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Markowitz [mailto:scosgt@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 10:25 AM To: Dr. Cornelius Halvey Cc: 'Donald Mak '; 'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu' Subject: Re: Win 2000 What did you do to get DVD express working? It must be using hardware, because a 266 is just not fast enough to decode DVD without some hardware help. Dr. Cornelius Halvey wrote: > > Hi Donald, > > I've got DVD playing well on a 600 via a Margi DVDtogo card with beta > drivers available at www.margi.com. I'm using Win2k rc2. > > Also, fwiw I've got DVDExpress playing DVDs smoothly on a 770ED (it came > with the infamous "SoftDVD"). I assume it's using hardware acceleration, > but I never really checked. To date, IBM hasn't released drivers for the EVA > card, so Margi would be the way to go on the 770, too. > > Neil > > TP 600 PII266 128ram > TP 770ED PII266 224ram > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald Mak > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Sent: 1/8/00 8:57 PM > Subject: Win 2000 > > I installed Win2000 on my TP and must write that this is the first MS OS > that I like. > > I did notice that resuming from standby, if the harddrive password is > set the screen comes > up blank and you have to key in the password hoping that you don't get > it wrong... > > Does Win2000 support DVD playback??? > > > Donald From cph Sun Jan 9 17:11:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA11643 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:11:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20031; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:09:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19871; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:09:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19857; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:09:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:09:15 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.53.136]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000109220913.SKA2478@compaq>; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:09:13 +0000 Message-ID: <387906EC.2A94@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 17:08:44 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Chalk CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Win 2000, DVD, Capture questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Maybe IBM will come out with a driver. Until then, looks like the Margi card is the only answer. Of course, W2000 is still a Beta, so who knows what will work with the final version! Richard Chalk wrote: > > I have tried unsuccessfully to get any DVD program to work on a 770Z running > Windows2000, and could use some suggestions. > > Also, there is a driver for the Video Capture function, which installs and > says it is working properly, but NetMeeting doesn't see it. Anyone have a > fix for this? > > TIA > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Markowitz [mailto:scosgt@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 10:25 AM > To: Dr. Cornelius Halvey > Cc: 'Donald Mak '; 'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu' > Subject: Re: Win 2000 > > What did you do to get DVD express working? It must be using hardware, > because a 266 is just not fast enough to decode DVD without some > hardware help. > > Dr. Cornelius Halvey wrote: > > > > Hi Donald, > > > > I've got DVD playing well on a 600 via a Margi DVDtogo card with beta > > drivers available at www.margi.com. I'm using Win2k rc2. > > > > Also, fwiw I've got DVDExpress playing DVDs smoothly on a 770ED (it came > > with the infamous "SoftDVD"). I assume it's using hardware acceleration, > > but I never really checked. To date, IBM hasn't released drivers for the > EVA > > card, so Margi would be the way to go on the 770, too. > > > > Neil > > > > TP 600 PII266 128ram > > TP 770ED PII266 224ram > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Donald Mak > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Sent: 1/8/00 8:57 PM > > Subject: Win 2000 > > > > I installed Win2000 on my TP and must write that this is the first MS OS > > that I like. > > > > I did notice that resuming from standby, if the harddrive password is > > set the screen comes > > up blank and you have to key in the password hoping that you don't get > > it wrong... > > > > Does Win2000 support DVD playback??? > > > > > > Donald From cph Sun Jan 9 17:12:11 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA11651 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:12:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19969; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:08:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19805; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:08:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19792; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:08:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:08:08 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.53.136]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000109220806.SCM2478@compaq>; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:08:06 +0000 Message-ID: <387906A9.3008@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 17:07:37 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Chalk CC: Donald Mak , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: SoftDVD and 770's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Yes. I said that earlier. But, the DVD Express still does not seem to "see" the hardware. PErhaps I have the wrong version (although it does say "IBM" on it!) Richard Chalk wrote: > > There are two different drivers on the IBM web site. You have to use the > proper one for the program you are running. > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald Mak [mailto:mmak@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 8:53 PM > To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: SoftDVD and 770's > > I would be interested to hear some answers on this as well... > > I have a 770ED (PII 266 with DVD-decoder) and it came with Soft_DVD. > I think IBM started using MediaMatics DVD Express with the next > 770 series ...the 770X and 770Z. > These systems had DVD decoders as well so I would think that DVD Express > would work with the decoder card but yet when I install it, play back is > choppy. > > Donald > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Markowitz" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: SoftDVD and 770's > > > Or, does anyone know how to get the DVD express player working with > > hardware acceleration? > > I have the drivers, and the name of the enhanced video adaptor changes > > in device manager, but the player is not using the hardware. > > > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > > > Has anyone found an updated SoftDVD with a brightness control that will > > > work on the 770 with the Enhanced Video Adaptor? > > From cph Sun Jan 9 18:15:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA12046 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:15:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22371; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:12:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22250; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:12:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.psychonet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22237; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:12:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.psychonet.net (24.113.61.37 -> cr634166-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:12:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (devel@localhost) by vip.psychonet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA14032 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:12:15 -0800 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:12:15 -0800 (PST) From: Steve To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: linux & TP240 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I am wondering if anyone else has linux running on the ThinkPad 240. I have slackware 7 on my 300 Mhz TP240 and the following are working: video - 800x600 both in console and xfree86 sound - kernel version 2.2.14 sound works with the latest tp240 bios(v 1.08) all bios versions have various problems, versions prior to 1.08 have a harddrive controller issue under linux and windoze NT pcmcia - use the latest version 3.1.8, works great modem - yes! the lucent winmodem works! whoowhoo!!! If anyone has any questions let me know, maybe I should write and linux and tp240 howto Steve From cph Sun Jan 9 22:01:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA13298 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:01:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00619; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:00:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:59:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00510; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:59:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta3.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00497; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta3.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.141 -> mta3.snfc21.pbi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:59:27 -0500 Received: from dan ([209.233.224.66]) by mta3.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with SMTP id <0FO300JSNMYUFE@mta3.snfc21.pbi.net> for THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:59:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 18:59:18 -0800 From: Dan Galender Subject: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Woes To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) List-Unsubscribe: Hi- I have a 770Z which came with a 14.1 GB hard drive. I recently purchased an IBM Travelstar 25 GB drive (not from IBM) and replaced the 14.1 with the 25 and all works fine. I then decided to get from IBM their Second Hard Drive Adapter so I could use the 14.1 GB in the UltraBay as a removable device. The problem I have is that the drive doesn't just fit into the Adapter--it sits very loosely and the connectors are on the wrong edge of the drive. It appears to need a "cage" with a flat cable that moves the connector pins to the long edge of the drive. I called IBM and they say they don't sell this "cage" that it comes with IBM drives sold for ThinkPads and the drive that I bought is a bare IBM drive for "any old laptop". They say that I'm out of luck unless I can find some other place to get this "cage". Does anyone here know if anyone else sells this part? Or does anyone here have one that they might be willing to part with (and if so, for how much). Please feel free to email me personally if you would prefer. In any case, many thanks in advance. -Dan Galender galender@pacbell.net From cph Sun Jan 9 22:22:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA13396 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:22:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01635; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:21:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:21:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01558; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01545; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:21:23 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (209.38.73.28 -> snowmass.leopard.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:21:23 -0500 To: "Donald Mak" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Win 2000 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 03:30:15 GMT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on snowmass/Leopard(Release 5.0 |March 30, 1999) at 01/09/2000 08:30:19 PM, Serialize complete at 01/09/2000 08:30:19 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 001181CA87256862_=" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 001181CA87256862_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The question about DVD was asked earlier, but so far I haven't seen any answer. I agree on Win2k, BTW.... ssh "Donald Mak" 01/08/2000 06:57 PM To: cc: Subject: Win 2000 I installed Win2000 on my TP and must write that this is the first MS OS that I like. I did notice that resuming from standby, if the harddrive password is set the screen comes up blank and you have to key in the password hoping that you don't get it wrong... Does Win2000 support DVD playback??? Donald --=_alternative 001181CA87256862_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
The question about DVD was asked earlier, but so far I haven't seen any answer.

I agree on Win2k, BTW....

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I installed Win2000 on my TP and must write that  this is the first MS OS that I like.
 
I did notice that resuming from standby, if the  harddrive password is set the screen comes
up blank and you have to key in the password hoping  that you don't get it wrong...
 
Does Win2000 support DVD playback???
 
 
Donald

--=_alternative 001181CA87256862_=-- From cph Sun Jan 9 22:38:59 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA13446 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:38:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02603; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:38:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:37:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02502; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02492; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:37:57 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.41 -> imo-d09.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:37:57 -0500 Received: from Rballmaw@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id o.74.74a54105 (3954) for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:37:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <74.74a54105.25aaadfd@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:37:33 EST Subject: IBM Quick Charger To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 32 List-Unsubscribe: I purchased an IBM Quick Charger (P/N 66G0186) on eBay but it did not come with a manual or instructions. Does anyone have a copy of the manual or instructions you could send to me (e-mail or otherwise)? Thanks in advance! Mike rballmaw@aol.com From cph Sun Jan 9 22:45:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA13486 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:45:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02988; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:44:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:44:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02912; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02899; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:44:15 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.15.245]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000110034412.DHZB4888@compaq>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 03:44:12 +0000 Message-ID: <3879556E.10EB@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 22:43:42 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Galender CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Woes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: www.megahaus.com around $55.00 Dan Galender wrote: > > Hi- > > I have a 770Z which came with a 14.1 GB hard drive. I recently purchased an > IBM Travelstar 25 GB drive (not from IBM) and replaced the 14.1 with the 25 > and all works fine. I then decided to get from IBM their Second Hard Drive > Adapter so I could use the 14.1 GB in the UltraBay as a removable device. > The problem I have is that the drive doesn't just fit into the Adapter--it > sits very loosely and the connectors are on the wrong edge of the drive. It > appears to need a "cage" with a flat cable that moves the connector pins to > the long edge of the drive. I called IBM and they say they don't sell this > "cage" that it comes with IBM drives sold for ThinkPads and the drive that I > bought is a bare IBM drive for "any old laptop". They say that I'm out of > luck unless I can find some other place to get this "cage". > > Does anyone here know if anyone else sells this part? Or does anyone here > have one that they might be willing to part with (and if so, for how much). > > Please feel free to email me personally if you would prefer. > > In any case, many thanks in advance. > > -Dan Galender > galender@pacbell.net From cph Sun Jan 9 23:55:04 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA13698 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 23:55:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05586; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 23:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 23:52:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05457; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 23:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww187.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05444; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 23:52:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww187.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.87 -> ww187.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 23:52:41 -0500 Received: (qmail 28134 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2000 04:52:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20000110045239.28133.qmail@ww187.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.87 by ww187 for [24.25.114.40] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Mon Jan 10 04:52:39 GMT 2000 Date: 9 Jan 00 22:52:39 CST From: Rob Bell To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Woes X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id XAA13699 What you're looking for is called the 'hard drive shell'. Very simple to install the HD into. In fact, if you bought a bare drive and replaced the original drive with the new one, you already have done this. Check out Bill Morrow's web page (http://www.thinkpads.com/shells.htm) for info. I don't know that he's updated the page recently, so you may want to e-mail him to get current pricing. By the way, the 2nd HDD adapter that you purchased should have come with two inserts, one for 755/760 style drives and another for 770 style drives. Make sure you are using the correct one. The 760 style on has the connector strip on the innermost edge of the adapter. I can't tell you exactly what the 770 one looks like without shutting down my PC and pulling it out. Good luck, Rob ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Mon Jan 10 12:35:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA16176 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:35:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02414; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:33:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:30:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02026; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:30:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02013; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:30:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.123 -> mta2.snfc21.pbi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:30:00 -0500 Received: from dan ([209.233.224.66]) by mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with SMTP id <0FO400AXAQL2FH@mta2.snfc21.pbi.net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:15:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:15:01 -0800 From: Dan Galender Subject: Re: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Woes To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) List-Unsubscribe: Rob, Bruce, and Jan-Carlos- Thanks a lot for your prompt responses! I've got one of the caddies on order--MegaHous had the best price and it was also the place where I got the 25GB drive in the frist place. Best regards, -Dan Galender From cph Mon Jan 10 14:20:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA16701 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:20:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09455; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:18:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:15:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09145; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09131; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:15:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (4.21.209.242 -> exch1.smh.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:15:35 -0500 Received: by EXCH1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:14:19 -0500 Message-ID: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1D26@EXCH1> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: "'Bruce Markowitz '" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: DVD in 770/600 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:14:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Bruce, DvdExpress has no brightness control that I can find. My 600 dvd drive came with v.3 DvdExpress on CD. It's got to be at least 10 mB. The upgade on the IBM web site is 17mB. And it will only work to upgrade v.3 to v.4. It's not a standalone product. Also, while DvdExpress v.3 works on both my 600 (software mpeg) and 770ED (hardware), the upgrade to v.4 is different for the 600 and 770. They're both posted on IBM's site and are BIG d/ls. At least in the case of the 770, it's essential you have the correct video, mpeg, and capture drivers for the DEVA card to work. And, they have to be installed in the correct order. IBM spells this out reasonably well. They also warn if you install the drivers in the wrong sequence, you'll get poor quality mpeg playback. Also, make sure you don't use the drivers for SoftDVD on the 770 if you want to use DVDExpress: they're different. And, if you want to give SoftDVD another chance, go to the IBM forun and request the later version of SoftDVD (I think it v1.12). The version the 770ED shipped with is pretty lame. Hope this helps, Neil -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Markowitz To: Dr. Cornelius Halvey Sent: 1/9/00 9:21 PM Subject: Re: Win 2000 I am surprised you could get software DVD on a P266 I had a 770ED, and I tried PowerDVD - NO WAY! I do have a Compaq Armada 1750 P333, and the Compaq version of DVD Express plays fairly well, but it takes advantage of the motion compensation in the ATI RAGE video card, which the IBM's don't have. My copy of DVD Express may not be the right one for the EVA. Does your run smooth, with the brightness control enabled? That's my bitch - the SfotDVD on the 770 plays too dark! What is the DVD 4 upgrade you speak of - I am not aware of it. Could you send me a copy of your DVD Express - mine may not be right. Dr. Cornelius Halvey wrote: > > Hi Bruce, > > I'm not so sure about that. I've also got DVDExpress running on the 600 > (PII/266) without hardware acceleration and it plays well. I bought the > Margi card because IBM assured me I needed it. You really don't. I ordered > the Margi card before I had the DVD drive. > > I got the DVD drive from Inacom about a year ago. It came with the > DVDExpress software (by the time the backordered drive arrived, I already > had a Margi card). Anyway, I got tired of SoftDVD crashing on my 770ED so I > backed it up and then blew away the SoftDVD Mpeg drivers and installed the > DvdExpress program and 770 drivers(specific for the DVDExpress program). It > was kind of tricky but I got it to work. Did this about a year ago so exact > details are sketchy. Also, Win98 (I upgraded my 770 to it, as well), will > intermittantly trash my video and mpeg drivers and I'll have to reinstall > them. That's when video overlay in media player doesn't work and the Dvd > doesn't either (based upon that observation your probably right, I am > hardware accelerating mpeg). Last summer IBM posted a DVD 4 upgrade for > both the 600 and the 770. I installed it on the 770: it's a nicer player, > but still not in the Margi card's league. > > As far as Win 2000 and the 770, I haven't had any luck with the DEVA > module(hardware mpeg). Device manager sees it as a big question mark. IBM > needs to come up with some drivers, I guess. > > Regards, > > Neil > > Regards, > > Neil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Markowitz > To: Dr. Cornelius Halvey > Cc: 'Donald Mak '; 'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu' > Sent: 1/9/00 10:25 AM > Subject: Re: Win 2000 > > What did you do to get DVD express working? It must be using hardware, > because a 266 is just not fast enough to decode DVD without some > hardware help. > > Dr. Cornelius Halvey wrote: > > > > Hi Donald, > > > > I've got DVD playing well on a 600 via a Margi DVDtogo card with beta > > drivers available at www.margi.com. I'm using Win2k rc2. > > > > Also, fwiw I've got DVDExpress playing DVDs smoothly on a 770ED (it > came > > with the infamous "SoftDVD"). I assume it's using hardware > acceleration, > > but I never really checked. To date, IBM hasn't released drivers for > the EVA > > card, so Margi would be the way to go on the 770, too. > > > > Neil > > > > TP 600 PII266 128ram > > TP 770ED PII266 224ram > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Donald Mak > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Sent: 1/8/00 8:57 PM > > Subject: Win 2000 > > > > I installed Win2000 on my TP and must write that this is the first MS > OS > > that I like. > > > > I did notice that resuming from standby, if the harddrive password is > > set the screen comes > > up blank and you have to key in the password hoping that you don't get > > it wrong... > > > > Does Win2000 support DVD playback??? > > > > > > Donald From cph Mon Jan 10 14:44:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA16904 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:44:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11207; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:40:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10943; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10929; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:40:37 -0500 Received: from JeanneS (lai-ca5a-122.ix.netcom.com [206.216.80.122]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA20572 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:40:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00a801bf5ba3$e4fac5e0$7a50d8ce@JeanneS> From: "Jeanne Snelson" To: Subject: 701C modem not working - followup Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:50:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: Thanks for all the help - both privately and to the list. The modem (and everything else) now works fine. Apparently the newer bios had reset all of the settings back to default, and it was only a matter of going into setup and tinkering. Jeanne Snelson From cph Mon Jan 10 16:32:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA17820 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:32:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19084; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:28:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18818; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:28:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18803; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:27:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.17 -> mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:27:59 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.17.27]) by mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000110212754.URRS8291@compaq>; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:27:54 +0000 Message-ID: <387A4EBD.3D89@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:27:26 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" CC: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: DVD in 770/600 References: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1D26@EXCH1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Yup, I got it to work (it's a 17 MB download!) But, the picture is not as nice as SoftDVD, and the audio really has problems. You are correct, there is no brightness (the ordinary version of DVD express does have abrightness slider). So, I would up taking it back off and putting SoftDVD back on. Now, where would I find that upgrade for SoftDVD?????? Dr. Cornelius Halvey wrote: > > Bruce, > > DvdExpress has no brightness control that I can find. My 600 dvd drive came > with v.3 DvdExpress on CD. It's got to be at least 10 mB. The upgade on the > IBM web site is 17mB. And it will only work to upgrade v.3 to v.4. It's not > a standalone product. Also, while DvdExpress v.3 works on both my 600 > (software mpeg) and 770ED (hardware), the upgrade to v.4 is different for > the 600 and 770. They're both posted on IBM's site and are BIG d/ls. > > At least in the case of the 770, it's essential you have the correct video, > mpeg, and capture drivers for the DEVA card to work. And, they have to be > installed in the correct order. IBM spells this out reasonably well. They > also warn if you install the drivers in the wrong sequence, you'll get poor > quality mpeg playback. > > Also, make sure you don't use the drivers for SoftDVD on the 770 if you want > to use DVDExpress: they're different. And, if you want to give SoftDVD > another chance, go to the IBM forun and request the later version of SoftDVD > (I think it v1.12). The version the 770ED shipped with is pretty lame. > > Hope this helps, > > Neil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Markowitz > To: Dr. Cornelius Halvey > Sent: 1/9/00 9:21 PM > Subject: Re: Win 2000 > > I am surprised you could get software DVD on a P266 > I had a 770ED, and I tried PowerDVD - NO WAY! > I do have a Compaq Armada 1750 P333, and the Compaq version of DVD > Express plays fairly well, but it takes advantage of the motion > compensation in the ATI RAGE video card, which the IBM's don't have. > My copy of DVD Express may not be the right one for the EVA. Does your > run smooth, with the brightness control enabled? That's my bitch - the > SfotDVD on the 770 plays too dark! > What is the DVD 4 upgrade you speak of - I am not aware of it. Could you > send me a copy of your DVD Express - mine may not be right. > > Dr. Cornelius Halvey wrote: > > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > I'm not so sure about that. I've also got DVDExpress running on the > 600 > > (PII/266) without hardware acceleration and it plays well. I bought > the > > Margi card because IBM assured me I needed it. You really don't. I > ordered > > the Margi card before I had the DVD drive. > > > > I got the DVD drive from Inacom about a year ago. It came with the > > DVDExpress software (by the time the backordered drive arrived, I > already > > had a Margi card). Anyway, I got tired of SoftDVD crashing on my > 770ED so I > > backed it up and then blew away the SoftDVD Mpeg drivers and installed > the > > DvdExpress program and 770 drivers(specific for the DVDExpress > program). It > > was kind of tricky but I got it to work. Did this about a year ago so > exact > > details are sketchy. Also, Win98 (I upgraded my 770 to it, as well), > will > > intermittantly trash my video and mpeg drivers and I'll have to > reinstall > > them. That's when video overlay in media player doesn't work and the > Dvd > > doesn't either (based upon that observation your probably right, I am > > hardware accelerating mpeg). Last summer IBM posted a DVD 4 upgrade > for > > both the 600 and the 770. I installed it on the 770: it's a nicer > player, > > but still not in the Margi card's league. > > > > As far as Win 2000 and the 770, I haven't had any luck with the DEVA > > module(hardware mpeg). Device manager sees it as a big question mark. > IBM > > needs to come up with some drivers, I guess. > > > > Regards, > > > > Neil > > > > Regards, > > > > Neil > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bruce Markowitz > > To: Dr. Cornelius Halvey > > Cc: 'Donald Mak '; 'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu' > > Sent: 1/9/00 10:25 AM > > Subject: Re: Win 2000 > > > > What did you do to get DVD express working? It must be using hardware, > > because a 266 is just not fast enough to decode DVD without some > > hardware help. > > > > Dr. Cornelius Halvey wrote: > > > > > > Hi Donald, > > > > > > I've got DVD playing well on a 600 via a Margi DVDtogo card with > beta > > > drivers available at www.margi.com. I'm using Win2k rc2. > > > > > > Also, fwiw I've got DVDExpress playing DVDs smoothly on a 770ED (it > > came > > > with the infamous "SoftDVD"). I assume it's using hardware > > acceleration, > > > but I never really checked. To date, IBM hasn't released drivers for > > the EVA > > > card, so Margi would be the way to go on the 770, too. > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > TP 600 PII266 128ram > > > TP 770ED PII266 224ram > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Donald Mak > > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > > Sent: 1/8/00 8:57 PM > > > Subject: Win 2000 > > > > > > I installed Win2000 on my TP and must write that this is the first > MS > > OS > > > that I like. > > > > > > I did notice that resuming from standby, if the harddrive password > is > > > set the screen comes > > > up blank and you have to key in the password hoping that you don't > get > > > it wrong... > > > > > > Does Win2000 support DVD playback??? > > > > > > > > > Donald From cph Mon Jan 10 22:56:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA20352 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:56:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07994; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:54:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:53:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07847; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw3.njit.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07834; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:53:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw3.njit.edu (128.235.251.11 -> mail-gw3.njit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:53:39 -0500 Received: from homer.njit.edu (homer.njit.edu [128.235.35.70]) by mail-gw3.njit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA22878 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:53:34 -0500 Received: from random.njit.edu (random [128.235.35.107]) by homer.njit.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA12764 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marvin@localhost) by random.njit.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA02118 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:53:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:53:34 -0500 (EST) From: Marvin Nakayama To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: partitions for 25GB drive Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I just got an internal 25 gig hard drive for my 770 (96491AU), and I'm trying to figure out how I should partition it. I'm currently running Win98. Someone told me that Win98 will not recognize partitions that are larger than 4 gig. This would mean that I would need at least 7(!) partitions. Is this true? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Marvin From cph Mon Jan 10 23:05:09 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA20407 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:05:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08557; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:02:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08483; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:01:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08404; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (208.154.252.26 -> mail.iso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:01:18 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial11.auto-net.com [208.154.252.60]) by mail.iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA97744; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:52:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <387AAAB3.C8FF1439@iso.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:59:48 -0600 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marvin Nakayama , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: partitions for 25GB drive References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Not true - I am running Win98 on a desktop with a 20 meg HD only 1 partition.......... But you need to format it in Windows or at least the Win98 boot disk. Bill Marvin Nakayama wrote: > I just got an internal 25 gig hard drive for my 770 (96491AU), > and I'm trying to figure out how I should partition it. > I'm currently running Win98. Someone told me that > Win98 will not recognize partitions that are larger than > 4 gig. This would mean that I would need at least 7(!) partitions. > Is this true? > > Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. > > Marvin From cph Mon Jan 10 23:14:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA20440 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:14:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09148; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:12:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:12:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09029; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:12:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta4.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09016; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta4.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.142 -> mta4.snfc21.pbi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:12:10 -0500 Received: from default.local.net ([63.199.31.218]) by mta4.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with SMTP id <0FO500798KVPWH@mta4.snfc21.pbi.net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:09:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:09:15 -0800 From: Voltaire Almendrala Subject: Re: partitions for 25GB drive To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <007a01bf5be9$a02bdd00$0100000a@local.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 References: <387AAAB3.C8FF1439@iso.net> X-Priority: 3 List-Unsubscribe: Bill, how can you run Win98 on a 20 meg HD??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Van Tuyl" To: "Marvin Nakayama" ; Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 7:59 PM Subject: Re: partitions for 25GB drive > Not true - I am running Win98 on a desktop with a 20 meg HD only 1 > partition.......... But you need to format it in Windows or at least > the Win98 boot disk. > > Bill > > Marvin Nakayama wrote: > > > I just got an internal 25 gig hard drive for my 770 (96491AU), > > and I'm trying to figure out how I should partition it. > > I'm currently running Win98. Someone told me that > > Win98 will not recognize partitions that are larger than > > 4 gig. This would mean that I would need at least 7(!) partitions. > > Is this true? > > > > Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. > > > > Marvin > From cph Mon Jan 10 23:19:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA20470 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:19:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09487; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:17:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09393; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:17:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09380; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (208.154.252.26 -> mail.iso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:16:53 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial11.auto-net.com [208.154.252.60]) by mail.iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA98155; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:08:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <387AAE79.27349C6@iso.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:15:53 -0600 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Voltaire Almendrala CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: partitions for 25GB drive References: <387AAAB3.C8FF1439@iso.net> <007a01bf5be9$a02bdd00$0100000a@local.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: OOPS my decimal is floating!! make it GIGA- Voltaire Almendrala wrote: > Bill, how can you run Win98 on a 20 meg HD??? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Van Tuyl" > To: "Marvin Nakayama" ; > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 7:59 PM > Subject: Re: partitions for 25GB drive > > > Not true - I am running Win98 on a desktop with a 20 meg HD only 1 > > partition.......... But you need to format it in Windows or at least > > the Win98 boot disk. > > > > Bill > > > > Marvin Nakayama wrote: > > > > > I just got an internal 25 gig hard drive for my 770 (96491AU), > > > and I'm trying to figure out how I should partition it. > > > I'm currently running Win98. Someone told me that > > > Win98 will not recognize partitions that are larger than > > > 4 gig. This would mean that I would need at least 7(!) partitions. > > > Is this true? > > > > > > Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Marvin > > From cph Mon Jan 10 23:54:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA20668 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:54:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11082; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:52:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:52:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10995; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:52:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10982; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:52:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.17 -> mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:52:23 -0500 Received: from bp ([12.77.216.218]) by mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000111045220.DAZR8291@bp>; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:52:20 +0000 Message-ID: <387AB6DE.7324@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:51:42 -0500 From: Birger Petterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marvin Nakayama CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: partitions for 25GB drive References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Marvin Nakayama wrote: > > I just got an internal 25 gig hard drive for my 770 (96491AU), > First partion-2gb Then you can have one or more. Birger From cph Tue Jan 11 01:37:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA21088 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:37:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14486; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:35:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:34:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14332; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:34:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14317; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:34:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (140.142.76.8 -> jason02.u.washington.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:34:44 -0500 Received: from dante29.u.washington.edu (williams@dante29.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.211]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA12566 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:34:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante29.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA69238 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:34:41 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:34:41 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Williams" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 2nd Hard Disk (770ED) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000108171823.00aabbf0@pilot.msu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I would like to upgrade my 770ED with a larger hard drive. How's the 25g? Is it louder than the 8.1G? Any more sensitive? Will it work in a 770ED? If I get this drive I understand I will need a case for it and I can use it in the ultra bay with another case. Is this correct? If I have two hard drives, do I need to do anything special? Does the system automatically boot to the internal hard disk? I would like to keep Win 95 on the 8 Gig and load Win 98 and/or Win 2000 on the 25. Any special partitioning recommended? Is dual boot usable? Any other comments or suggestions? Thanks, John From cph Tue Jan 11 02:21:36 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA21208 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:21:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16045; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:20:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15954; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta3.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15939; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta3.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.141 -> mta3.snfc21.pbi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:19:59 -0500 Received: from pacbell.net ([63.195.50.126]) by mta3.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FO500LCJTOX75@mta3.snfc21.pbi.net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:19:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:22:36 -0800 From: Joe Suttle Subject: Need 701 Replicator To: Think Pad List Message-id: <387ADA3C.997F2F18@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en List-Unsubscribe: Tried ebay, but did not find any port replicators for the 701. The hooks on the latch broke off about a year ago when someone moved my 701 around. Don't want to go to IBM unless absolutely necessary. Any ideas? BTW it still runs great with 40M RAM and 3.1G Drive (OS/2 W4, WarpServer and W95). -- Joe Suttle * IBM Warp Certified System Expert jsuttle@pacbell.net Hercules, California http://home.pacbell.net/csuttle/joes_home.htm +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ The one thing you can't recycle is time Lost time is never found again. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Using the power of OS/2 - Warp 4, Warp Server for e-business, Internet Gate, SmartSuite OS/2, Netscape 4.6 From cph Tue Jan 11 04:54:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA21454 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:54:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23907; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:53:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:52:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23775; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:52:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23627; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:48:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:48:27 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-14.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.14]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA28380; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:48:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000111024839.0080d100@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:48:39 -0800 To: Marvin Nakayama , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: partitions for 25GB drive In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:53 PM 01/10/2000 -0500, Marvin Nakayama wrote: >I just got an internal 25 gig hard drive for my 770 (96491AU), >and I'm trying to figure out how I should partition it. >I'm currently running Win98. Someone told me that >Win98 will not recognize partitions that are larger than >4 gig. This would mean that I would need at least 7(!) partitions. >Is this true? Win98 will work just fine with your 25gig drive. It supports 25gig media just fine. Older Win95 (before rev b) and older did not support HD sizes over 2gigs. Make sure your 770 (95491AU) is using the newest BIOS. Then you can make a monster 25gig partition if you want, or split it up as you see fit. I'm a fan of monster partitions (why? I dunno!). Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Tue Jan 11 09:56:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA22501 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:56:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11878; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:53:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11706; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:53:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww156.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11692; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww156.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.56 -> ww156.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:53:43 -0500 Received: (qmail 4803 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jan 2000 14:53:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20000111145337.4802.qmail@ww156.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.56 by ww156 for [206.146.7.2] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Tue Jan 11 14:53:36 GMT 2000 Date: 11 Jan 00 08:53:36 CST From: Rob Bell To: "J. Williams" Subject: Re: 2nd Hard Disk (770ED) CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id JAA22502 John, Yes, you can do this with your 770. If you want to use both drives in your computer at once you will need the IBM 2nd HDD adapter for the Ultrabay. This costs about $65 and is available from many ThinkPad vendors, such as CDW. If you buy a bare drive (ie. not a 770-specific drive), you will need a HD shell - sometimes called a caddy. These are available from Bill Morrow (www.thinkpads.com) and MegaHaus for around $55 - $65. The ThinkPad 770 works really well with a second HD. When booting up, it recognizes it as a second physical HD, just as it should. In addition, the BIOS is very flexible, allowing you to boot from whatever drive you wish (HD1, HD2, CD, FDD, etc.). If you run a 'good' ;-) OS on one of the drives, such as NT, Win2000, or Linix, you can use its boot manager to choose which drive to boot from without making BIOS changes. For instance, I have one Win98 drive (HD2) and one NT4 drive (HD1). When I boot, I get the NT boot menu that I have set up so that I can choose which OS to load. That way I don't have to go into the BIOS each time I want to boot to the other OS. You can also run the PC with just the ultrabay HD installed and the main HD removed. Beware that the BIOS now thinks of the ultrabay HD as HD1 instead of HD2. Those references are logical, not related to the physical position of the drives in the computer. HTH, Rob ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Tue Jan 11 10:41:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA22768 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:41:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15316; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:40:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15235; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:40:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c23.us.kpmg.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15222; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c23.us.kpmg.com (199.207.255.23 -> p0016c23.us.kpmg.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:40:25 -0500 Received: from p0016c56.kweb.us.kpmg.com by p0016c23.us.kpmg.com(Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA21592 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c22.kweb.us.kpmg.com by p0016c56.kweb.us.kpmg.com via smtpd (for p0016c23.us.kpmg.com [199.207.255.23]) with SMTP; 11 Jan 2000 15:40:24 UT Received: from usnssexc19.kweb.us.kpmg.com by kpmg.com(Pro-8.9.2/Pro-8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA04922 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:40:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from usnssexc19.kweb.us.kpmg.com (unverified) by usnssexc19.kweb.us.kpmg.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:30:54 -0500 Received: by usnssexc19.kweb.us.kpmg.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:30:54 -0500 Message-Id: <8389C74A65EFD111B03800805FA7658F05018620@USDALEXC01> From: "Egbert, Scott K" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Red Hat Linux won't recognize 128M RAM Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:37:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I put Red Hat Linux 6.1 on my ThinkPad 600, but it won't recognize the 128M RAM I've got in it. I've tried passing the argument at the boot prompt (boot: linux mem=128M) and adding "append='mem=128M'" in the lilo.conf file. When I do this, it stops loading linux after it loads the apm daemon. The whole machine freezes and turning it off doesn't work. I have to unplug it, pop out the battery, and then restart it using "linux mem=64M" and remove the "append" statement from lilo.conf. Does anyone have any ideas about how to fix this? Thanks! - Scott Egbert segbert@kpmg.com ***************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. ***************************************************************************** From cph Tue Jan 11 10:47:17 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA22803 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:47:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16104; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:45:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:45:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15999; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15985; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.50 -> avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:45:38 -0500 Received: from miles (ip29.an11-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.22.29]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA15692; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:45:34 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: "Egbert, Scott K" , Subject: RE: Red Hat Linux won't recognize 128M RAM Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:45:37 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <8389C74A65EFD111B03800805FA7658F05018620@USDALEXC01> List-Unsubscribe: For some reason Linux doesn't like it when you specify ALL of the memory you have. Solution is to knock off 1 Mbyte from your append statement. This line works fine in my TP600E: append="mem=127M" dn > -----Original Message----- > From: Egbert, Scott K [mailto:segbert@kpmg.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 7:37 AM > To: 'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu' > Subject: Red Hat Linux won't recognize 128M RAM > > > I put Red Hat Linux 6.1 on my ThinkPad 600, but it won't > recognize the 128M > RAM I've got in it. I've tried passing the argument at the boot prompt > (boot: linux mem=128M) and adding "append='mem=128M'" in the > lilo.conf file. > When I do this, it stops loading linux after it loads the apm daemon. The > whole machine freezes and turning it off doesn't work. I have to > unplug it, > pop out the battery, and then restart it using "linux mem=64M" and remove > the "append" statement from lilo.conf. Does anyone have any > ideas about how > to fix this? Thanks! > > - > Scott Egbert > segbert@kpmg.com > > > ****************************************************************** > *********** > The information in this email is confidential and may be legally > privileged. > It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by > anyone else > is unauthorized. > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > distribution > or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is > prohibited > and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice > contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions > expressed in > the governing KPMG client engagement letter. > ****************************************************************** > *********** > From cph Tue Jan 11 11:21:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA23044 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:21:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18714; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:16:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:15:36 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18558; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:15:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:15:35 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id LAA09059 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:13:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16747; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:51:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:51:18 -0500 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA29840; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:51:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:51:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" To: David Newman cc: "Egbert, Scott K" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Red Hat Linux won't recognize 128M RAM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: >From the hazy depths of what I call my memory, I seem to recall that IBM took 256K of RAM away for its own purposes -- note that this may no longer be true, but it would certainly explain the "MB -1" deal. Thanks for the tip; I'll spread it around to my Cisco Thinkpad brethren. -Ken On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, David Newman wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:45:37 -0800 > From: David Newman > To: "Egbert, Scott K" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: RE: Red Hat Linux won't recognize 128M RAM > > > For some reason Linux doesn't like it when you specify ALL of the memory you > have. > > Solution is to knock off 1 Mbyte from your append statement. > > This line works fine in my TP600E: > > append="mem=127M" > > dn > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Egbert, Scott K [mailto:segbert@kpmg.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 7:37 AM > > To: 'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu' > > Subject: Red Hat Linux won't recognize 128M RAM > > > > > > I put Red Hat Linux 6.1 on my ThinkPad 600, but it won't > > recognize the 128M > > RAM I've got in it. I've tried passing the argument at the boot prompt > > (boot: linux mem=128M) and adding "append='mem=128M'" in the > > lilo.conf file. > > When I do this, it stops loading linux after it loads the apm daemon. The > > whole machine freezes and turning it off doesn't work. I have to > > unplug it, > > pop out the battery, and then restart it using "linux mem=64M" and remove > > the "append" statement from lilo.conf. Does anyone have any > > ideas about how > > to fix this? Thanks! > > > > - > > Scott Egbert > > segbert@kpmg.com > > > > > > ****************************************************************** > > *********** > > The information in this email is confidential and may be legally > > privileged. > > It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by > > anyone else > > is unauthorized. > > > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > > distribution > > or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is > > prohibited > > and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice > > contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions > > expressed in > > the governing KPMG client engagement letter. > > ****************************************************************** > > *********** > > > > > From cph Tue Jan 11 11:29:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA23095 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:29:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19801; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:25:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:25:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19718; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19682; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:25:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:25:09 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08655; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:24:58 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-ID: <387B595A.A1876C72@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:24:58 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Egbert, Scott K" CC: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux won't recognize 128M RAM References: <8389C74A65EFD111B03800805FA7658F05018620@USDALEXC01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I usually specify 1M less than I have, although you can get away with only 384k less as well. Basically, the amount of memory the ThinkPad says it has at boot time (in k) works. --Lee Hetherington From cph Tue Jan 11 11:56:59 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA23252 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:56:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22473; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:55:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:55:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22337; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22323; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.217.152 -> ah-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:55:07 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id LAA08932 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:55:05 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with SMTP id LAA08860 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:54:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001111654.LAA08860@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:53:20 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux won't recognize 128M RAM List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:24:58 -0500, I Lee Hetherington wrote: >I usually specify 1M less than I have, although you can get >away with only 384k less as well. Basically, the amount of >memory the ThinkPad says it has at boot time (in k) works. > >--Lee Hetherington I wonder if this is related to the 640k limit in the old days, where the space from 640k-1024k was reserved for the video and other drivers? I remember spending many joyous hours analyzing the HIMEM area and stuffing drivers into explicit locations to maximize available devices. andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Tue Jan 11 12:25:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA23442 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:25:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25208; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:23:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:22:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25023; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25009; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:22:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (198.144.192.5 -> shell.tsoft.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:22:23 -0500 Received: from NewPad (m205-90.dsl.tsoft.com [198.144.205.90]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA10635; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:22:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Marvin Nakayama" , Subject: RE: partitions for 25GB drive Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:22:04 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: > I just got an internal 25 gig hard drive for my 770 (96491AU), > and I'm trying to figure out how I should partition it. > I'm currently running Win98. Someone told me that > Win98 will not recognize partitions that are larger than > 4 gig. This would mean that I would need at least 7(!) partitions. > Is this true? You can make the partition as big as you want, but be aware that it will use 16K clusters at that size. If that's a concern, you can split it into a couple of partitions and get smaller clusters. -Mike From cph Tue Jan 11 12:53:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA23627 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:53:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27764; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:51:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27656; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:51:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27643; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:51:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:51:11 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09579; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:51:05 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-ID: <387B6D89.E354AF5E@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:51:05 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Webber CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux won't recognize 128M RAM References: <200001111654.LAA08860@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Andrew Webber wrote: > I wonder if this is related to the 640k limit in the old days, > where the space from 640k-1024k was reserved for the video and > other drivers? I remember spending many joyous hours analyzing the > HIMEM area and stuffing drivers into explicit locations to maximize > available devices. This is exactly what I think. 384k = 1024k - 640k. --Lee Hetherington From cph Tue Jan 11 16:39:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA25183 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:39:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15378; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:36:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:33:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15142; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15129; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:33:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (198.206.134.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:33:36 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-410.gate.net [199.227.173.156]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA113582; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:33:24 -0500 Message-ID: <387BA1BA.B5872067@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:33:46 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wvantuyl@iso.net CC: Marvin Nakayama , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: partitions for 25GB drive References: <387AAAB3.C8FF1439@iso.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the 4gig limit is/was an OS/2 thing.. make big drives all one partiton, put backup stuff in one directory.. got to run.. William Van Tuyl wrote: > Not true - I am running Win98 on a desktop with a 20 meg HD only 1 > partition.......... But you need to format it in Windows or at least > the Win98 boot disk. > > Bill > > Marvin Nakayama wrote: > > > I just got an internal 25 gig hard drive for my 770 (96491AU), > > and I'm trying to figure out how I should partition it. > > I'm currently running Win98. Someone told me that > > Win98 will not recognize partitions that are larger than > > 4 gig. This would mean that I would need at least 7(!) partitions. > > Is this true? > > > > Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. > > > > Marvin -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Tue Jan 11 18:45:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA26052 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:45:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20913; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:48:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20839; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:48:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from brimstone.geology.washington.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20825; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:48:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from brimstone.geology.washington.edu (128.95.79.74 -> brimstone.geology.washington.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:48:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (kress@localhost) by brimstone.geology.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06532; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:46:04 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: brimstone.geology.washington.edu: kress owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:46:04 -0800 (PST) From: Victor Kress X-Sender: kress@brimstone.geology.washington.edu To: Bill Morrow cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: partitions for 25GB drive In-Reply-To: <387BA1BA.B5872067@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Bill Morrow wrote: > the 4gig limit is/was an OS/2 thing.. But only prior to Fixpack 3 or 4 (I forget). I think these were current back in 1996 or 1997. I know from experience this isn't a prob in or after 98. ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph Tue Jan 11 18:45:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA26056 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:45:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20127; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:40:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19982; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:40:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from datacomm.iue.it (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19965; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from datacomm.iue.it (149.139.6.101 -> datacomm.iue.it) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:40:11 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer (ppp2-rsa.iue.it [149.139.13.178]) by datacomm.iue.it (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA22990 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:40:41 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000111234426.007d4950@datacomm.iue.it> X-Sender: wennerst@datacomm.iue.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:44:26 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Wennersten Subject: uninstalling and reinstalling WIN 98 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello everyone, My name is Peter and it's half a year now since I got my TP 570 with WIN 98 pre-loaded. Have installed so many sharewares and made so many alterations to the registry so that the computer has started to be unpleasantly unstable (crashes a lot). I've heard a good way to make it more stable again is to reinstall WIN 98 in order to flush out old residues of sharewares that may still be lurking around in the registry and other system files and thus causing the computer to crash more than it did in the beginning. Only a few questions before I attempt this, the answers to which I have not found in either the printed manual or the 'on-line' version: 1) (This may be a stupid question) I only have the recovery cd plus bootdisk that came with the computer. Is that enough to reinstall WIN 98 or do I need to purchase a full version of WIN 98? 2) The computer came with the 4 gig hard drive partitioned into C: and D: (two gigs each). The system/WIN 98 is installed on C:. On C: I also have lots of stuff that would take quite some time to backup since I only have a 1.44 disk drive for that purpose. I would therefore like to leave all that stuff on the computer if possible. So I wonder, can I reinstall WIN 98 without reformatting C:, and thus keeping the other C: stuff where it is? If not, can I use D: for temporarily storing the stuff while reinstalling WIN 98? I am grateful for all help on these matters. Peter wennerst@iue.it -------- Peter Wennersten Researcher in the Dept. of Social and Political Sciences European University Institute From cph Tue Jan 11 18:46:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA26061 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:46:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21387; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:54:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:53:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21312; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:53:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot017.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21299; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:53:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot017.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.117 -> pilot017.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:53:45 -0500 Received: from andres (andres-53.user.msu.edu [35.10.64.59]) by pilot017.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA16862 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:53:37 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000111175423.00aa7a80@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:54:23 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: uninstalling and reinstalling WIN 98 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000111234426.007d4950@datacomm.iue.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Peter, Your IBM recovery CD is all that is needed to create an exact duplicate of C: as shipped by IBM. However, this will erase everything you ever put on C:, so you'll have to make sure anything you want to keep is backed up on either D: or floppies. This recovery CD is really pretty neat--it definitely makes the reinstallation of Windows about the easiest that can be, since all the device drivers and IBM specific things will already be loaded when you are done. Remember that when you are done C: will once again be a FAT16 partition. If you don't have too much to move around, reinstalling Windows will test your idea of the crahes being registry related, but I wonder if there might not be some registry cleaners you might use, which might help solve the problems you're having. I'll be curious to hear of others thoughts on this one. So, you can definitely reinstall Windows, but at the cost of having to move stuff off C:. I guess I'd try some registry cleaning stuff first before doing the reinstall, myself. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 11:44 PM 1/11/2000 +0100, Peter Wennersten wrote: >Hello everyone, > >My name is Peter and it's half a year now since I got my TP 570 with WIN 98 >pre-loaded. Have installed so many sharewares and made so many alterations >to the registry so that the computer has started to be unpleasantly >unstable (crashes a lot). I've heard a good way to make it more stable >again is to reinstall WIN 98 in order to flush out old residues of >sharewares that may still be lurking around in the registry and other >system files and thus causing the computer to crash more than it did in the >beginning. > >Only a few questions before I attempt this, the answers to which I have not >found in either the printed manual or the 'on-line' version: > >1) (This may be a stupid question) I only have the recovery cd plus >bootdisk that came with the computer. Is that enough to reinstall WIN 98 or >do I need to purchase a full version of WIN 98? > >2) The computer came with the 4 gig hard drive partitioned into C: and D: >(two gigs each). The system/WIN 98 is installed on C:. On C: I also have >lots of stuff that would take quite some time to backup since I only have a >1.44 disk drive for that purpose. I would therefore like to leave all that >stuff on the computer if possible. > >So I wonder, can I reinstall WIN 98 without reformatting C:, and thus >keeping the other C: stuff where it is? If not, can I use D: for >temporarily storing the stuff while reinstalling WIN 98? > >I am grateful for all help on these matters. > >Peter >wennerst@iue.it > >-------- >Peter Wennersten >Researcher in the Dept. of Social and Political Sciences >European University Institute > > From cph Tue Jan 11 20:31:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA26509 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:31:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28864; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:19:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:18:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28769; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28737; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.122 -> mta1.snfc21.pbi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:18:40 -0500 Received: from dan ([209.233.224.66]) by mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with SMTP id <0FO7000G67K9N3@mta1.snfc21.pbi.net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:16:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:16:57 -0800 From: Dan Galender Subject: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Follow-on Questions To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) List-Unsubscribe: Well I got a caddy from MegaHaus today so I've got a new 25GB drive as the primary and now the 14GB is ready for the 2nd HDD Adapter. I have an assumption to confirm and a question for anyone who also has a 2 disk setup: Assumption: I need to jumper the drive in the Adapter as the slave, true? [Fortunately the caddy came with a connector cable that doesn't cover the pins that need to be jumpered for slave mode (as the original cable does).] Question: Can I hot-swap in the 2nd HDD? [I'm guessing that I can't due to (among other potential issues) drive letter mapping.] Thanks in advance. -Dan Galender From cph Tue Jan 11 21:22:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA26797 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:22:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02242; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:21:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:20:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02122; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0j.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02100; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0j.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.39 -> www0j.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:20:09 -0500 Received: (qmail 16386 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jan 2000 02:20:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20000112022000.16385.qmail@www0j.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.39 by www0j for [24.25.116.115] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Wed Jan 12 02:20:00 GMT 2000 Date: 11 Jan 00 20:20:00 CST From: Rob Bell To: Dan Galender , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Follow-on Questions X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id VAA26798 Dan, As far as I know there is no jumper that has to be set. I've never had to deal with any master/slave stuff with my 770. I've used both 755/760 style HDs and 770 style HDs in the UltraBay like this. Apparently the ThinkPad BIOS is smart enough to handle things and override the need for master/slave settings. Remember, once you have the new drive in the new 770 shell, you can use it in either the main bay or the UltraBay without altering anything (other than maybe your boot order). And no, you can't hot or warm swap an UltraBay HD. The PC must be powered off before removing the drive! Oh, by the way, you could run into drive mapping problems with your configuration, depending on the OS that you are booting into. WinNT will let you define what all your partition drive letters are, but Win95/98 may map the first partition of the HD2 to D:, and make your D: partition from HD1 into E: (assuming you had a D: on HD1). There is something that can be done to avoid this problem, but I'm not positive what it is?? I think you might need to make all partitions on HD1 set to not active?? Someone else will chime in here... HTH, Rob Dan Galender wrote: > Well I got a caddy from MegaHaus today so I've got a new 25GB drive as the > primary and now the 14GB is ready for the 2nd HDD Adapter. I have an > assumption to confirm and a question for anyone who also has a 2 disk setup: > > Assumption: I need to jumper the drive in the Adapter as the slave, true? > [Fortunately the caddy came with a connector cable that doesn't cover the > pins that need to be jumpered for slave mode (as the original cable does).] > > Question: Can I hot-swap in the 2nd HDD? [I'm guessing that I can't due to > (among other potential issues) drive letter mapping.] > > > Thanks in advance. > > -Dan Galender ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Tue Jan 11 21:46:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA26914 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:46:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03679; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:44:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:44:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03581; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from brimstone.geology.washington.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03560; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:44:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from brimstone.geology.washington.edu (128.95.79.74 -> brimstone.geology.washington.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:44:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (kress@localhost) by brimstone.geology.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06648; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:42:53 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: brimstone.geology.washington.edu: kress owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:42:53 -0800 (PST) From: Victor Kress X-Sender: kress@brimstone.geology.washington.edu To: Rob Bell cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Follow-on Questions In-Reply-To: <20000112022000.16385.qmail@www0j.netaddress.usa.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On 11 Jan 2000, Rob Bell wrote: > > And no, you can't hot or warm swap an UltraBay HD. The PC must be powered off > before removing the drive! This brings up an interesting issue. Most OS's will not let you hot swap because they automount and assign drive letters based on what they find on boot. What about linux, where you can mount manually, and the designation of the second ide is always reserved? Has anybody hot-swapped an ultrabay (or ultraslimbay) drive under linux or other unix? This would be really useful! > Oh, by the way, you could run into drive mapping problems with your > configuration, depending on the OS that you are booting into. WinNT will let > you define what all your partition drive letters are, but Win95/98 may map the > first partition of the HD2 to D:, and make your D: partition from HD1 into E: > (assuming you had a D: on HD1). There is something that can be done to avoid > this problem, but I'm not positive what it is?? I think you might need to > make all partitions on HD1 set to not active?? Someone else will chime in > here... Windows, dos and warp first look at the primary partitions of all visable hard drives and assign letters in order. Then it looks at extended partitions and assigns letters from there. This will mess you up if you have a primary partition and several partitions in an extended partition and you add a second hd with a primary partition. That will get the D: designation and all your extended partitions on your first disk will get bumped up one letter. If you don't want the second drive to be bootable, you can just put all the partitions in an extended partition and they will always get high letters. ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph Tue Jan 11 22:00:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA26974 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:00:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04654; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:58:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:58:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04579; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:58:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot021.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04566; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot021.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.121 -> pilot021.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:58:22 -0500 Received: from andres (andres-53.user.msu.edu [35.10.64.59]) by pilot021.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA18276 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:58:20 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000111215905.00aaea60@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:59:05 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Follow-on Questions In-Reply-To: References: <20000112022000.16385.qmail@www0j.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I agree it would be nice to be able to do that but I'm about certain you can't on any IBM system. In order to do really cool hot-swappapble stuff, you first have to teach the hardware how to do this safely. That breaks down into two subcatagories, being 1) a connection system which is safe for plugging/unplugging when a system is on, and 2) the ability of the device to know when it should power itself on/off--there has to be some intelligence there, if you don't want the hardware to zap itself when being plugged in as an example. The next part is that the software has to understand how to do things. In UNIX this would be fairly straightforward, but perhaps akward. To be able to swap out a disk you'd have to first umount the partition(s) which were active on the disk, and hopefully provide a locking mechanism that says those partitions are gone. Inserting a disk would have to fire up some way of mounting the disk, or taking the easy way out and informing the user that a new disk is available for mounting. It occurs to me there must be people with experience doing just this, in laptops where PCMCIA hard disks are used. That would provide the mechanism for physical installation, and UNIX could do the rest. ...Is there anyone on the list who has used a system like this? --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 06:42 PM 1/11/2000 -0800, Victor Kress wrote: >On 11 Jan 2000, Rob Bell wrote: > >> >> And no, you can't hot or warm swap an UltraBay HD. The PC must be powered off >> before removing the drive! > >This brings up an interesting issue. Most OS's will not let you hot swap >because they automount and assign drive letters based on what they find on >boot. What about linux, where you can mount manually, and the designation >of the second ide is always reserved? Has anybody hot-swapped an ultrabay >(or ultraslimbay) drive under linux or other unix? This would be really >useful! From cph Wed Jan 12 12:43:55 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA30349 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:43:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20901; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:41:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:39:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20694; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20657; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (198.144.192.5 -> shell.tsoft.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:38:39 -0500 Received: from NewPad (m205-90.dsl.tsoft.com [198.144.205.90]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA15841; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:36:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Rob Bell" , "Dan Galender" , Subject: RE: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Follow-on Questions Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:36:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20000112022000.16385.qmail@www0j.netaddress.usa.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: > And no, you can't hot or warm swap an UltraBay HD. The PC must > be powered off before removing the drive! On a ThinkPad 600, Windows 2000 lets you warm swap the UltraslimBay hard drive. You click the Unplug or Eject Hardware tray icon and tell it to stop the drive, then it puts the machine in standby and you can swap it out. I haven't tried it on a 770, but I suspect it works the same. -Mike From cph Wed Jan 12 13:48:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA30837 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:48:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26102; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:47:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:46:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25976; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:46:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from haifa.royl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25963; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from haifa.royl.com (208.240.192.2 -> haifa.royl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:46:23 -0500 Received: from hebron.royl.com ( [208.240.192.5] ) by haifa.royl.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:44:58 -0800 Message-ID: <003401bf5d2d$70d0b220$05c0f0d0@HEBRON> From: "Stephen Hosmer" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Dual Display on W2K Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:47:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF5CEA.625FA040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF5CEA.625FA040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know how to setup "Dual Display" on a 770 running Win 2000? _______________________________ Stephen Hosmer ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF5CEA.625FA040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know how to setup "Dual = Display" on a=20 770 running Win 2000?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF5CEA.625FA040-- From cph Wed Jan 12 13:53:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA30876 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:53:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26855; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:52:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:52:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26780; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:52:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from otpt-mail.chmc (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26762; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:52:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from otpt-mail.chmc (205.142.199.15 -> fw1.chmcc.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:52:24 -0500 Received: from KN ([32.101.4.177]) by otpt-mail.chmc (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) with SMTP id 85256864.006792BE; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:51:17 -0500 Message-ID: <001c01bf5d2d$565fe5a0$b1046520@chmcc.org> From: "Mike Prunty" To: Subject: W2K and IR Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:46:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF5D03.6CC81440" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF5D03.6CC81440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anybody know how to point th IR device to a specific com port in w2k on = a TP 600e? I'd lik to synch my PalmV via IR. -mike ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF5D03.6CC81440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anybody know how to point th IR device = to a=20 specific com port in w2k on a TP 600e?  I'd lik to synch my PalmV = via=20 IR.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF5D03.6CC81440-- From cph Wed Jan 12 17:22:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA32386 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:22:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12631; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:18:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12278; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:18:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12259; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:18:32 -0500 Received: from user-38lcoi6.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lcoi6.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.98.70]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA15268; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:18:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001122218.RAA15268@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> From: "Allan" To: "Bill Morrow" , "wvantuyl@iso.net" Cc: "Marvin Nakayama" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:16:45 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <387BA1BA.B5872067@icanect.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: partitions for 25GB drive List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:33:46 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >the 4gig limit is/was an OS/2 thing.. Wasn't that fixed with the current dasd.exe ? From cph Thu Jan 13 10:51:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA03879 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:51:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15432; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:49:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:47:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15250; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:47:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ftpbox.mot.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15221; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ftpbox.mot.com (129.188.136.101 -> ftpbox.mot.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:47:25 -0500 Received: [from mothost.mot.com (mothost.mot.com [129.188.137.101]) by ftpbox.mot.com (VWALL-IN-ftpbox 2.0) with ESMTP id IAA02797 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:47:23 -0700 (MST)] Received: [from msgphx3.sps.mot.com (msgphx3.sps.mot.com [216.11.52.3]) by mothost.mot.com (MOT-mothost 2.0) with ESMTP id IAA07902 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:47:22 -0700 (MST)] Received: from email.sps.mot.com ([162.1.10.8]) by msgphx3.sps.mot.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA311; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:47:20 -0700 Sender: "Payne Simpson" Message-ID: <387DF2C4.3CDEDB33@email.sps.mot.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:44:04 -0700 From: "Payne Simpson (r38335)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Mailing List CC: "Egbert, Scott K" Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux won't recognize 128M RAM References: <8389C74A65EFD111B03800805FA7658F05018620@USDALEXC01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Motorola-Sent-Wireless: 1 List-Unsubscribe: When the machine boots, the amount of memory that is available to the OS is displayed at the top of the screen. On my TP600E, 198M displays as 196032K. That is the number that you should use in the 'append mem=' line of the lilo.conf. hth, Payne Simpson "Egbert, Scott K" wrote: > > I put Red Hat Linux 6.1 on my ThinkPad 600, but it won't recognize the 128M > RAM I've got in it. I've tried passing the argument at the boot prompt > (boot: linux mem=128M) and adding "append='mem=128M'" in the lilo.conf file. > When I do this, it stops loading linux after it loads the apm daemon. The > whole machine freezes and turning it off doesn't work. I have to unplug it, > pop out the battery, and then restart it using "linux mem=64M" and remove > the "append" statement from lilo.conf. Does anyone have any ideas about how > to fix this? Thanks! > > - > Scott Egbert > segbert@kpmg.com > > ***************************************************************************** > The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. > It is intended solely for the addressee. 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Chris Schumann "Wait a minute, Joe. If what you're saying is true, then I still don't care." - Dave Nelson, News Radio ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 05:00:49 -0500 (EST) From: IBM Personal Systems Group Technical Support To: IBM PSG Support Customer Subject: TP General - PIIX IDE Driver for Windows NT Your IBM Support E-mail The following is an article summary which matches your IBM support personal profile. To view the entire article, point your Web browser to the Web address below: The PIIX IDE driver for Microsoft Windows NT has been updated to version 1.03. This release supports the following systems: - ThinkPad 365X, 365XD - ThinkPad 560X, 560Z - ThinkPad 570 - ThinkPad 600, 600E, 600X - ThinkPad 760E, 760ED, 760EL, 760ELD, 760XD, 760XL - ThinkPad 765D, 765L - ThinkPad 770, 770E, 770ED, 770X, 770Z This release fixes the following items: - If using the PIIXIDE2.SYS driver, errors will occur while copying data to a hard drive in the SelectaDock III. - If using the PIIXIDE2.SYS driver, you may not be able to play some video content from a Video CD. http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3TZP3T.html To cancel your subscription to IBM support e-mail, go to http://www.pc.ibm.com/support and update your personal profile. Clear the check box entitled "I would be interested in receiving e-mail related to my IBM system in the future." Please do not send other e-mail to this server. (C) IBM Corporation From cph Thu Jan 13 11:06:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA03947 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:06:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17068; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:05:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16953; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:05:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16939; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:05:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (207.0.68.7 -> home.dwave.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:05:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA16416 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:07:52 -0600 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:07:51 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 365XD Suspends at will Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: That's right, some days when I start my ThinkPad 365XD and use it for a few minutes, it suspends, seemingly of its own free will. This would not be so bad, except I am consulting at a client site, connected to the network, and the NIC does not work after a resume. Details: 365XD running Win95, NIC is an IBM Home & Away. The machine suspends after some keypress. This time it was ctrl-k. Come to think of it, I'm not sure if it suspends or hibernates. The suspend indicator blinks and the machine turns off as if it is hibernating, but the BIOS screen showing memory to disk does not appear. Any tips would be appreciated, such as: How to stop this in the first place, how to get networking restored after a power-off, oh hey, I bet I could disable APM, at least as far as Win95 is concerned, any other tips. Thanks all, Chris Schumann "Wait a minute, Joe. If what you're saying is true, then I still don't care." - Dave Nelson, News Radio From cph Thu Jan 13 12:21:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA04373 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:21:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24059; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:19:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:18:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23852; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.sips.state.nc.us (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23837; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:18:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.sips.state.nc.us (149.168.11.11 -> ns.sips.state.nc.us) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:18:34 -0500 Received: from gabo5.ncga.state.nc.us (gabo5.ncga.state.nc.us [204.84.200.27]) by smtp.sips.state.nc.us (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8+josh) with ESMTP id MAA17316 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:18:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by gabo5.ncga.state.nc.us with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:17:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: "John McClain (ISD)" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Network Boot Disk Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:17:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I have some IBM 390 and 600 laptops running win98 on a Novell network. I need some help trying to create a network boot disk for imaging. John McClain Information Systems Division N.C. General Assembly (919) 715-7828 Johnm@ms.ncga.state.nc.us From cph Thu Jan 13 13:44:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA04940 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:44:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02881; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:42:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:40:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02602; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange.optics.Arizona.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02588; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange.optics.Arizona.EDU (128.196.206.226 -> exchange.optics.arizona.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:40:40 -0500 Received: from spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu ([150.135.52.9]) by exchange.optics.Arizona.EDU with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id CMHWV40W; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:40:38 -0700 Received: from europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU [150.135.52.30]) by spectra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11872; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:40:37 -0700 (MST) Received: (from stu@localhost) by europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) id LAA17756; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:40:36 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:40:36 -0700 (MST) From: Stuart Biggar Message-Id: <200001131840.LAA17756@europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> To: andres@msu.edu Subject: Re: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Follow-on Questions Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > > I agree it would be nice to be able to do that but I'm about certain you > can't on any IBM system. > > In order to do really cool hot-swappapble stuff, you first have to teach > the hardware how to do this safely. That breaks down into two subcatagories, > being 1) a connection system which is safe for plugging/unplugging when a > system is on, and 2) the ability of the device to know when it should power > itself on/off--there has to be some intelligence there, if you don't want > the hardware to zap itself when being plugged in as an example. > > The next part is that the software has to understand how to do things. In > UNIX this would be fairly straightforward, but perhaps akward. To be able > to swap out a disk you'd have to first umount the partition(s) which were > active on the disk, and hopefully provide a locking mechanism that says > those partitions are gone. Inserting a disk would have to fire up some way > of mounting the disk, or taking the easy way out and informing the user that > a new disk is available for mounting. > > It occurs to me there must be people with experience doing just this, in > laptops where PCMCIA hard disks are used. That would provide the mechanism > for physical installation, and UNIX could do the rest. ...Is there anyone > on the list who has used a system like this? I just did a bit of fiddling around with my 770E (PII 266, 14 GB HD, 224 MB of RAM) which triple boots PC-DOS 2000 (7), NT4 (SP6a), and UNIX (Sun Solaris x86 version 7). Under Solaris, an ancient PCMCIA HD (MAXTOR MobileMax 131 MB) seems to work. I booted the 770E into Solaris (without any PCMCIA cards inserted). Logged in as root. Inserted the HD. Solaris appeared to hang for a few seconds but it came back after the PCMCIA HD spun up. I could mount the PCMCIA drive as a PCFS type file system and then read/write files on the HD. Could also unmount the PCMCIA HD filesystem. I suppose one could write a script to mount/unmount after insertion/ removal ... The built-in volume management software is supposed to automatically mount/unmount SRAM cards but I haven't tried that. The HD and SRAM can have either DOS or UNIX (UFS) file systems on them. I have NOT tried hot plugging an UltraBay HD under any OS. Someday after a complete backup maybe ... Now, Solaris isn't for everyone and it likes LOTS of RAM, especially if you are running CDE. You also have to configure a 3rd party Xserver as Sun no longer supports notebooks and notebook video support included in the OS is for OLD notebooks (760ED or older). I haven't run Linux so I can't comment on that. Stuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuart F. Biggar Phone: (520) 621-8168 Remote Sensing Group FAX: (520) 621-8292 Optical Sciences Center University of Arizona Meinel Building PO Box 210094 Tucson, AZ 85721-0094 Internet: Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --STeve Andre' > andres@msu.edu > > At 06:42 PM 1/11/2000 -0800, Victor Kress wrote: > >On 11 Jan 2000, Rob Bell wrote: > > > >> > >> And no, you can't hot or warm swap an UltraBay HD. The PC must be > powered off > >> before removing the drive! > > > >This brings up an interesting issue. Most OS's will not let you hot swap > >because they automount and assign drive letters based on what they find on > >boot. What about linux, where you can mount manually, and the designation > >of the second ide is always reserved? Has anybody hot-swapped an ultrabay > >(or ultraslimbay) drive under linux or other unix? This would be really > >useful! > > From cph Thu Jan 13 14:05:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA05090 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:05:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04881; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:02:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04796; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:02:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot002.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04770; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:02:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot002.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.102 -> pilot002.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:02:33 -0500 Received: from andres (andres-53.user.msu.edu [35.10.64.80]) by pilot002.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA43982 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:02:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000113140235.00abcab0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:02:35 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Follow-on Questions In-Reply-To: <200001131840.LAA17756@europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Interesting! Thanks for trying that. So at least Solaris can deal with the concept of temporary/exchangable hard disks. Probably other UNIX's can as well. Always good to know. --STeve Andre' At 11:40 AM 1/13/2000 -0700, Stuart Biggar wrote: >I just did a bit of fiddling around with my 770E (PII 266, 14 GB HD, 224 >MB of RAM) which triple boots PC-DOS 2000 (7), NT4 (SP6a), and UNIX (Sun >Solaris x86 version 7). > >Under Solaris, an ancient PCMCIA HD (MAXTOR MobileMax 131 MB) seems to >work. I booted the 770E into Solaris (without any PCMCIA cards >inserted). Logged in as root. Inserted the HD. Solaris appeared to >hang for a few seconds but it came back after the PCMCIA HD spun up. >I could mount the PCMCIA drive as a PCFS type file system and then >read/write files on the HD. Could also unmount the PCMCIA HD filesystem. >I suppose one could write a script to mount/unmount after insertion/ >removal ... The built-in volume management software is supposed to >automatically mount/unmount SRAM cards but I haven't tried that. The >HD and SRAM can have either DOS or UNIX (UFS) file systems on them. > >I have NOT tried hot plugging an UltraBay HD under any OS. Someday >after a complete backup maybe ... > >Now, Solaris isn't for everyone and it likes LOTS of RAM, especially if >you are running CDE. You also have to configure a 3rd party Xserver as >Sun no longer supports notebooks and notebook video support included in >the OS is for OLD notebooks (760ED or older). I haven't run Linux so >I can't comment on that. > >Stuart From cph Thu Jan 13 15:23:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA05807 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:23:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11775; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:20:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:19:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11491; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:19:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11435; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:18:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:18:58 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax29.vramp.net [198.138.8.92]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA22613; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:18:28 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "STeve Andre'" , Subject: RE: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Follow-on Questions Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:17:07 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000113140235.00abcab0@pilot.msu.edu> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: STeve Andre' [mailto:andres@msu.edu] wrote: > Interesting! Thanks for trying that. So at least Solaris can deal with > the concept of temporary/exchangable hard disks. Probably other UNIX's > can as well. Always good to know. --STeve Andre' W95, W98 and W2K _all_ have the ability to mount and unmount PCMCIA hard drives (as well as CD-ROMs) at will. All allow you to "Stop" any PCMCIA device and remove it while the laptop is on. But I would never, EVER attempt to mount or unmount a HD from the Ultrabay (nor the drive bay) while the unit was powered up. I don't think it can be safely done regardless of the OS. Regards, James From cph Thu Jan 13 16:29:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA06279 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:29:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17867; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:27:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:26:06 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17626; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:24:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:24:49 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id QAA20696 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:22:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14927; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:52:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (209.38.73.28) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:54:19 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: Subject: RE: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Follow-on Questions X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 From: Steve Hultquist Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:00:31 GMT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on snowmass/Leopard(Release 5.0 |March 30, 1999) at 01/13/2000 02:03:25 PM, Serialize complete at 01/13/2000 02:03:25 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00728A7087256865_=" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00728A7087256865_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Actually, I'm nearly certain that Windows 2000 can handle this (obviously as long as the OS isn't on it!). ssh "James H. E. Maugham" 01/13/2000 01:17 PM To: "STeve Andre'" , cc: Subject: RE: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Follow-on Questions STeve Andre' [mailto:andres@msu.edu] wrote: > Interesting! Thanks for trying that. So at least Solaris can deal with > the concept of temporary/exchangable hard disks. Probably other UNIX's > can as well. Always good to know. --STeve Andre' W95, W98 and W2K _all_ have the ability to mount and unmount PCMCIA hard drives (as well as CD-ROMs) at will. All allow you to "Stop" any PCMCIA device and remove it while the laptop is on. But I would never, EVER attempt to mount or unmount a HD from the Ultrabay (nor the drive bay) while the unit was powered up. I don't think it can be safely done regardless of the OS. Regards, James --=_alternative 00728A7087256865_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Actually, I'm nearly certain that Windows 2000 can handle this (obviously as long as the OS isn't on it!).

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"James H. E. Maugham" <CaptJHEM@waterw.com>

01/13/2000 01:17 PM

       
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STeve Andre' [mailto:andres@msu.edu] wrote:
> Interesting!  Thanks for trying that.  So at least Solaris can deal with
> the concept of temporary/exchangable hard disks.  Probably other UNIX's
> can as well.  Always good to know.   --STeve Andre'
W95, W98 and W2K _all_ have the ability to mount and unmount PCMCIA hard drives
(as well as CD-ROMs) at will. All allow you to "Stop" any PCMCIA device and
remove it while the laptop is on.
But I would never, EVER attempt to mount or unmount a HD from the Ultrabay (nor
the drive bay) while the unit was powered up. I don't think it can be safely
done regardless of the OS.
Regards,
James


--=_alternative 00728A7087256865_=-- From cph Fri Jan 14 05:53:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA09823 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:53:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02177; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:50:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02023; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:50:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02010; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:50:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (216.145.8.233 -> ip-216.145.8.233.az.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:50:28 -0500 Received: from whistler.az.com (ip-216.145.8.254.az.com [216.145.8.254]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00373 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:50:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Received: from MYHOSTNAME ([10.66.17.49]) by whistler.az.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA40354 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:51:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <200001141051.CAA40354@whistler.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 00 03:00:44 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: partitions for 25GB drive List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:46:04 -0800 (PST), Victor Kress wrote: >On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Bill Morrow wrote: > >> the 4gig limit is/was an OS/2 thing.. > >But only prior to Fixpack 3 or 4 (I forget). I think these were current >back in 1996 or 1997. I know from experience this isn't a prob in or >after 98. In all of this discussion, is the win 98 partition a FAT16 or a FAT32? FAT32 should make that a large partition like that with no problem. Personally I like to have a few partitions to keep programs away from the OS. My $0.02 worth Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph Fri Jan 14 05:56:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA09837 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:56:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02425; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:55:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02341; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02328; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:55:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (216.145.8.233 -> ip-216.145.8.233.az.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:55:07 -0500 Received: from whistler.az.com (ip-216.145.8.254.az.com [216.145.8.254]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00768 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:55:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Received: from MYHOSTNAME ([10.66.17.49]) by whistler.az.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA40481 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:56:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <200001141056.CAA40481@whistler.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 00 03:05:40 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 365XD Suspends at will List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:07:51 -0600 (CST), Chris Schumann wrote: >Come to think of it, I'm not sure if it suspends or hibernates. The >suspend indicator blinks and the machine turns off as if it is >hibernating, but the BIOS screen showing memory to disk does not appear. That sounds like suspend to me. Hibernate brings up this really huge white screen and has like a bar that shows the memory being stored to disk. >how to get networking restored after a power-off, I'm assuming (and a dangerous thing to do) that you're mapping a drive to their network. Make sure that you have on your laptop the "Reconnect..." (forgot the full wording right now) box checked. Otherwise all mapped drives won't reconnect. >oh hey, I bet I could disable APM, at least as far as Win95 is concerned, Yup. Power Management is my first choice to look at. Also you might check to see if your battery is fully charged. Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph Fri Jan 14 09:35:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA10784 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:35:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16534; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:32:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16365; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:32:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16352; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:32:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (140.174.2.1 -> toad.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:32:56 -0500 Received: from ken2 ([208.199.120.203]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA04030 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 06:32:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000114092556.00cbe590@mail.ny.viant.com> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Kenzo's Useful Mail Client v3 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:30:59 -0500 To: Thinkpad list From: Ken Subject: [TP600X] Sound problems after wake-up Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I've been using my Thinkpad 600X with Windows 98 for a couple of days now. Definitely not as remarkable a machine as the 770ED, for sure. (Latest surprise: No hot swapping of floppy and CD-ROM.) I've been having trouble with the sound. When I wake up from "stand-by" (is this what used to be called Suspend in Windows 95?), or from hibernate, and then I try to play sounds, either no sound comes out, or sound comes out for a couple of seconds, and then starts skipping on the last sound sample. Playing with the Volume control panel, and the Fn-Volume/Mute keys, has no effect. Restarting the machine fixes the problem. Has anyone encountered this, or has any suggestions for where to look for a solution? Thanks, Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph Fri Jan 14 09:41:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA10810 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:41:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17126; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:39:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:39:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17052; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:39:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17039; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:39:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (140.174.2.1 -> toad.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:39:11 -0500 Received: from ken2 ([208.199.120.203]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA04121 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 06:39:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000114092635.00d11100@mail.ny.viant.com> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Kenzo's Useful Mail Client v3 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:37:56 -0500 To: Thinkpad list From: Ken Subject: [TP600X] Win98 Explorer gets extremely sluggish when navigating folders Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Running Windows 98 on my new Thinkpad 600X. When I navigate around using the explorer (either via the desktop, or via the Windows Explorer program), after I flip through a bunch of folders consecutively (i.e. I move through a folder hierarchy, backing up, moving ahead to another folder, backing up, etc.), the response time on each flip gets progressively slower (although not completely consistently) until it can take 15 seconds just to bring up an individual folder display. It brings my system to the point of unusability in a matter of a minute of navigating, and I have to restart to get any performance back. The machine came preinstalled with Windows 98 and IE 5. I have tried turning off Active Desktop. I have tried turning on and off most of the options under Folder Options. I have TweakUI98, and have tried playing with most of those options. Nothing seems to have any effect. I'm not running any background programs that I know of (besides the Thinkpad Ultrabay and Trackpoint servers). I have no idea where this problem is coming from. I've used the IE 5 Explorer shell under Win95B, and have never seen this behavior. It's a very serious problem. Like I said, it gets rapidly progressively worse the more folders I've flipped through since starting the OS, to the point where the whole Explorer comes to a crawl (although the rest of the machine continues to run fine). Thanks greatly for any help, Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph Fri Jan 14 11:05:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA11154 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:05:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25302; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:05:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:04:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25128; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:04:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24765; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:00:33 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-195.gate.net [199.227.131.4]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20234; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:58:28 -0500 Message-ID: <387F481E.C26CDD5C@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:00:30 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan CC: "wvantuyl@iso.net" , Marvin Nakayama , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: partitions for 25GB drive, now the old OS/2 limitation which was fixed long ago References: <200001122218.RAA15268@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: it was fixed so long ago that this minor bug have faded from most peoples memories.. :-) remember, when these huge capacity drives appeared, most were unprepared for all those cylinders.. Allan wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:33:46 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: > > >the 4gig limit is/was an OS/2 thing.. > > Wasn't that fixed with the current dasd.exe ? -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Fri Jan 14 12:56:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA11817 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:56:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04993; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:55:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:54:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04775; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04756; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (198.144.192.5 -> shell.tsoft.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:54:21 -0500 Received: from NewPad (m205-90.dsl.tsoft.com [198.144.205.90]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA24948; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:54:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "James H. E. Maugham" , "STeve Andre'" , Subject: RE: [TP770] Second Hard Drive Adapter Follow-on Questions Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:53:59 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: > But I would never, EVER attempt to mount or unmount a HD from the Ultrabay (nor > the drive bay) while the unit was powered up. I don't think it can be safely > done regardless of the OS. Windows 2000 can warm-swap a second hard drive. I do it all the time in the ThinkPad 600. The only problem that comes up is if the second drive has a password on it--then it sometimes gets confused about letting you enter the password and locks up there. But if there's no HDD password it works fine. -Mike From cph Fri Jan 14 13:21:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA11978 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:21:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07623; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:20:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:20:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07525; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07501; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.62 -> smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:20:04 -0500 Received: from r7a006661ax.hlb.cable.rcn.com ([209.122.66.230] helo=ppro) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 129BKH-0006Tt-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:19:58 -0500 Received: by ppro (VPOP3) with SMTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:15:09 -0500 Message-ID: <087301bf5ebb$46bcb210$0d00a8c0@dec5200> From: "R Briganti" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Workpad z50 now $299 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:15:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0b - Registered to: Belle Mead Claims List-Unsubscribe: If anyone is interested, the Workpad z50 is now selling for $299 at CDW. I hadn't realized that prices had fallen so low. Granted it is a WinCE device, but it is small, with a long-lived battery and now inexpensive. The web page is http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=201666. From cph Fri Jan 14 14:18:12 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA12303 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:18:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12534; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:15:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12320; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12274; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:14:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:15:02 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax32.vramp.net [198.138.8.95]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA25431; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:13:23 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Michael Geary" , "STeve Andre'" , Subject: RE: [TP600] HotSwap of HD in UltraBay Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:12:20 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Michael Geary [mailto:Mike@Geary.com] wrote: > Windows 2000 can warm-swap a second hard drive. I do it all the time in the > ThinkPad 600. The only problem that comes up is if the second drive has a > password on it--then it sometimes gets confused about letting you enter the > password and locks up there. But if there's no HDD password it works fine. Thanks Mike. I bow to your greater knowledge and will have to give it a try on my 600E which is running W2K RC3. As the HD in the UltraBay is at the top of the list of things to cold swap according to IBM, I will have a great deal of difficulty bringing myself to attempt this. Regards, James From cph Fri Jan 14 14:25:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA12372 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:25:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13275; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:23:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13200; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:23:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13186; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (198.144.192.5 -> shell.tsoft.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:23:28 -0500 Received: from NewPad (m205-90.dsl.tsoft.com [198.144.205.90]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA04615; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:22:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "James H. E. Maugham" , "STeve Andre'" , Subject: RE: [TP600] HotSwap of HD in UltraBay Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:22:36 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: > > Windows 2000 can warm-swap a second hard drive. I do it all the time in the > > ThinkPad 600. The only problem that comes up is if the second drive has a > > password on it--then it sometimes gets confused about letting you enter the > > password and locks up there. But if there's no HDD password it works fine. > Thanks Mike. I bow to your greater knowledge and will have to give it a try on > my 600E which is running W2K RC3. As the HD in the UltraBay is at the top of the > list of things to cold swap according to IBM, I will have a great deal of > difficulty bringing myself to attempt this. I don't really have any greater knowledge. But I saw that the Unplug or Eject Hardware icon was offering to stop the hard drive, so I tried it and by golly it works. Just watch out for the password issue as I mentioned. Other than that, there's no problem with it at all. If you have files or directories open on the second drive, you'll get a message saying that the drive can't be stopped and you should try later. Close those files/directories and try again, and it will work. IBM said to not warm swap the hard drive because there was no OS support for it. Now there is. -Mike From cph Fri Jan 14 14:51:12 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA12528 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:51:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16643; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:49:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16566; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:49:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from black.engin.umich.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16535; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from black.engin.umich.edu (141.213.42.49 -> black.engin.umich.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:49:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (arteitle@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by black.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA08782; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:49:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:49:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" To: Ken cc: Thinkpad list Subject: Re: [TP600X] Sound problems after wake-up In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000114092556.00cbe590@mail.ny.viant.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Ken wrote: > I've been using my Thinkpad 600X with Windows 98 for a couple of days > now. Definitely not as remarkable a machine as the 770ED, for sure. > (Latest surprise: No hot swapping of floppy and CD-ROM.) > > I've been having trouble with the sound. When I wake up from > "stand-by" (is this what used to be called Suspend in Windows 95?), or > from hibernate, and then I try to play sounds, either no sound comes > out, or sound comes out for a couple of seconds, and then starts > skipping on the last sound sample. Playing with the Volume control > panel, and the Fn-Volume/Mute keys, has no effect. Restarting the > machine fixes the problem. > > Has anyone encountered this, or has any suggestions for where to look > for a solution? Oddly enough, I've had the same problem with my old TP 701C "Butterfly". I doubt it shares much (if any) circuitry with your Thinkpad, but under Win95 or Win98 I lose the left (or sometimes both) channels of audio after resuming from suspend. Only a restart of Windows will restore sound. So far I haven't found a specific cause, nor a better solution. Aaron Teitlebaum arteitle@engin.umich.edu From cph Fri Jan 14 15:02:09 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA12609 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:02:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18112; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:00:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:59:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17984; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:59:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17963; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.19 -> mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:59:47 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.212]) by mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000114195943.STZ28505@kaste> for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:59:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01bf5ec9$89dd91a0$d4c74b0c@kaste> Reply-To: "Kaste" From: "Kaste" To: Subject: WTB thinkpad Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:57:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: I am looking to buy a new laptop. I want to know where I can get something that can meet these specks: P133, 32 ram, 1-2gig, at least 4-8x cdrom, large screen(prefer 12.1, but can live with 11.x), good battery Also, if anyone here has a laptop like that forsale please contact me. Thanks Garrett Kaste From cph Fri Jan 14 15:02:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA12614 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:02:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18338; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:00:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18242; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:00:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18153; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:00:30 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax32.vramp.net [198.138.8.95]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA29005; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:00:04 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Ken" , "Thinkpad list" Subject: RE: [TP600X] Sound problems after wake-up Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:59:01 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000114092556.00cbe590@mail.ny.viant.com> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Ken [mailto:kenzo@free-music.com] wrote: > I've been using my Thinkpad 600X with Windows 98 for a couple of days > now. Definitely not as remarkable a machine as the 770ED, for sure. > (Latest surprise: No hot swapping of floppy and CD-ROM.) My experience with my 600 running W98SE (and my 760XL and 755CDs) has been that if the floppy drive is in the unit at startup, you can warm swap the CD. If the CD is in at startup, you cannot warm swap the floppy. With my 600E which is running W2K, there is no problem swapping the drives in and out regardless of which was in at startup. > I've been having trouble with the sound. When I wake up from > "stand-by" (is this what used to be called Suspend in Windows 95?), > or from hibernate, and then I try to play sounds, either no sound > comes out, or sound comes out for a couple of seconds, and then > starts skipping on the last sound sample. Playing with the Volume > control panel, and the Fn-Volume/Mute keys, has no effect. > Restarting the machine fixes the problem. Sorry, I haven't experienced that problem and don't know what to suggest to fix it. Regards, James From cph Fri Jan 14 15:04:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA12638 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:04:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18768; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:02:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:02:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18603; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:02:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18589; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:02:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (24.137.12.3) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:02:27 -0500 Received: from cel400 (24.137.23.22) by orion.planetcable.net (Worldmail 1.3.167) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; 14 Jan 2000 14:59:15 -0500 Message-ID: <002501bf5eca$87634d60$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> From: "Slip" To: Subject: What parcel do I use to ship this drive back? Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:04:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Hi there, A while back I had some problems with a HDD and IBM sent me a new one. A bit later they sent me an empty box with a pre-payed mailing sticker. I'm unsure however who to call to schedule a pickup! There was no number on the stick or doccumentation in the box. It's an all white sticker with a yellow stripe going down the left side. It says 'ground' and 'prepaid' on it. What number should I call to find out? Thanks, -Jamie From cph Fri Jan 14 16:05:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA13064 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:05:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26682; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:04:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:02:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26487; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:02:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0i.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26473; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:02:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0i.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.38 -> www0i.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:02:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 25134 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2000 21:02:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20000114210243.25133.qmail@www0i.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.38 by www0i for [206.146.7.2] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Fri Jan 14 21:02:43 GMT 2000 Date: 14 Jan 00 15:02:43 CST From: Rob Bell To: "Thinkpad list" Subject: Re: [TP600X] Sound problems after wake-up X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id QAA13065 Oddly, that's the opposite of what IBM says about warm swapping the CD/FD on a 770. They say that you must boot up with the CD in the UltraBay in order to be able to warm swap the FD in (at least with NT). I don't use Win98 much on the 770, so I didn't pay much attention to hot swapping. Rob "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > My experience with my 600 running W98SE (and my 760XL and 755CDs) has been that > if the floppy drive is in the unit at startup, you can warm swap the CD. If the > CD is in at startup, you cannot warm swap the floppy. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Fri Jan 14 16:28:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA13188 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:28:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29265; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:27:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:27:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29165; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29127; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:26:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (166.72.18.201 -> slip166-72-18-201.nj.us.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:26:47 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01bf5ed6$0ed4c2a0$c91248a6@cijeczcig1x68u> From: "Donald Mak" To: Subject: Win2K and TP770 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:26:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF5EAC.23F66780" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF5EAC.23F66780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well Win2K final build does not recognize the 770's enhanced video = adapter so I guess=20 DVD hardware playback is not possible (for now) using the IBM adapter.=20 I don't even know if DVDExpress or SoftDVD will work under Win2K but = will try later... Everything else seems fine. I only wish that you could set up multiple = profiles for=20 network cards so I would not have to key in different IP addresses = depending on location.... ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF5EAC.23F66780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well Win2K final build does not = recognize the 770's=20 enhanced video adapter so I guess
DVD hardware playback is not possible = (for now)=20 using the IBM adapter.
 
I don't even know if DVDExpress or = SoftDVD will=20 work under Win2K but will try later...
 
Everything else seems fine. I only wish = that you=20 could set up multiple profiles for
network cards so I would not have to = key in=20 different IP addresses depending on location....
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF5EAC.23F66780-- From cph Fri Jan 14 17:04:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA13460 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:04:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02971; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:03:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:03:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02862; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:03:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02848; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (216.98.165.6) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:03:20 -0500 Received: by BIGRED with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:06:28 -0600 Message-ID: <195C527E2345D311A97C009027856AB8095B13@BIGRED> From: Greg Langham To: "'Donald Mak'" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Win2K and TP770 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:06:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF5EDB.9AC3BD52" List-Unsubscribe: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF5EDB.9AC3BD52 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Do you still have to reboot after changing IP address? -----Original Message----- From: Donald Mak [mailto:dvmak@ibm.net] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 3:27 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Win2K and TP770 Well Win2K final build does not recognize the 770's enhanced video adapter so I guess DVD hardware playback is not possible (for now) using the IBM adapter. I don't even know if DVDExpress or SoftDVD will work under Win2K but will try later... Everything else seems fine. I only wish that you could set up multiple profiles for network cards so I would not have to key in different IP addresses depending on location.... ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF5EDB.9AC3BD52 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Do you still have to reboot after changing IP address?
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Mak [mailto:dvmak@ibm.net]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 3:27 PM
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Win2K and TP770

Well Win2K final build does not recognize the 770's enhanced video adapter so I guess
DVD hardware playback is not possible (for now) using the IBM adapter.
 
I don't even know if DVDExpress or SoftDVD will work under Win2K but will try later...
 
Everything else seems fine. I only wish that you could set up multiple profiles for
network cards so I would not have to key in different IP addresses depending on location....
 
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01BF5EDB.9AC3BD52-- From cph Fri Jan 14 17:19:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA13590 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:19:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04708; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:19:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:18:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04512; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04499; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:18:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (209.38.73.28 -> snowmass.leopard.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:18:48 -0500 To: "Donald Mak" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Win2K and TP770 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 From: Steve Hultquist Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:27:53 GMT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on snowmass/Leopard(Release 5.0 |March 30, 1999) at 01/14/2000 03:27:57 PM, Serialize complete at 01/14/2000 03:27:57 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007A895E87256866_=" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007A895E87256866_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I actually reported the network profiles as a bug. They tell me it's on the top of the list for the first rev. I have found two ways to make this work. First, I use a Select-a-dock with the PC Card slots in it at work. Those slots actually show up as different LAN cards, so you can set different information for each of them. Secondly, (and probably obviously), you can use a different type of card to get a different profile (I use a 10/100 at work and a 10 at home). Those are the only ways I've found so far... ssh "Donald Mak" 01/14/2000 02:26 PM To: cc: Subject: Win2K and TP770 Well Win2K final build does not recognize the 770's enhanced video adapter so I guess DVD hardware playback is not possible (for now) using the IBM adapter. I don't even know if DVDExpress or SoftDVD will work under Win2K but will try later... Everything else seems fine. I only wish that you could set up multiple profiles for network cards so I would not have to key in different IP addresses depending on location.... --=_alternative 007A895E87256866_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
I actually reported the network profiles as a bug. They tell me it's on the top of the list for the first rev.

I have found two ways to make this work. First, I use a Select-a-dock with the PC Card slots in it at work. Those slots actually show up as different LAN cards, so you can set different information for each of them. Secondly, (and probably obviously), you can use a different type of card to get a different profile (I use a 10/100 at work and a 10 at home). Those are the only ways I've found so far...

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"Donald Mak" <dvmak@ibm.net>

01/14/2000 02:26 PM

       
        To:        <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>
        cc:        
        Subject:        Win2K and TP770




Well Win2K final build does not recognize the 770's  enhanced video adapter so I guess
DVD hardware playback is not possible (for now)  using the IBM adapter.
 
I don't even know if DVDExpress or SoftDVD will  work under Win2K but will try later...
 
Everything else seems fine. I only wish that you  could set up multiple profiles for
network cards so I would not have to key in  different IP addresses depending on location....
 
 
 

--=_alternative 007A895E87256866_=-- From cph Fri Jan 14 17:19:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA13591 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:19:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04716; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:19:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:19:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04604; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04582; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (209.38.73.28 -> snowmass.leopard.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:19:03 -0500 To: Greg Langham Cc: dvmak@ibm.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Win2K and TP770 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 From: Steve Hultquist Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:28:03 GMT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on snowmass/Leopard(Release 5.0 |March 30, 1999) at 01/14/2000 03:28:12 PM, Serialize complete at 01/14/2000 03:28:12 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007A8D6A87256866_=" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007A8D6A87256866_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Nope. Greg Langham 01/14/2000 03:06 PM To: "'Donald Mak'" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: RE: Win2K and TP770 Do you still have to reboot after changing IP address? -----Original Message----- From: Donald Mak [mailto:dvmak@ibm.net] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 3:27 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Win2K and TP770 Well Win2K final build does not recognize the 770's enhanced video adapter so I guess DVD hardware playback is not possible (for now) using the IBM adapter. I don't even know if DVDExpress or SoftDVD will work under Win2K but will try later... Everything else seems fine. I only wish that you could set up multiple profiles for network cards so I would not have to key in different IP addresses depending on location.... --=_alternative 007A8D6A87256866_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Nope.


Greg Langham <greg@psnet.net>

01/14/2000 03:06 PM

       
        To:        "'Donald Mak'" <dvmak@ibm.net>, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
        cc:        
        Subject:        RE: Win2K and TP770




Do you  still have to reboot after changing IP address?
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Mak  [mailto:dvmak@ibm.net]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 3:27  PM
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Win2K and  TP770


Well Win2K final build does not recognize the  770's enhanced video adapter so I guess
DVD hardware playback is not possible (for now)  using the IBM adapter.
 
I don't even know if DVDExpress or SoftDVD will  work under Win2K but will try later...
 
Everything else seems fine. I only wish that you  could set up multiple profiles for
network cards so I would not have to key in  different IP addresses depending on location....
 
 
 

--=_alternative 007A8D6A87256866_=-- From cph Fri Jan 14 17:27:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA13633 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:27:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05988; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:26:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:25:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05730; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:25:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05696; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:25:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.19 -> mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:25:50 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.53.196]) by mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000114222537.CXJL28505@compaq>; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:25:37 +0000 Message-ID: <387FA237.57F3@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:24:55 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donald Mak CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Win2K and TP770 References: <000e01bf5ed6$0ed4c2a0$c91248a6@cijeczcig1x68u> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Donald Mak wrote: > > Well Win2K final build does not recognize the 770's enhanced video > adapter so I guess > DVD hardware playback is not possible (for now) using the IBM adapter. > > I don't even know if DVDExpress or SoftDVD will work under Win2K but > will try later... > > Everything else seems fine. I only wish that you could set up multiple > profiles for > network cards so I would not have to key in different IP addresses > depending on location.... > > > But there are W2K drivers for the Margi DVD to Go card! From cph Fri Jan 14 17:28:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA13644 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:28:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06192; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:27:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:27:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06110; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:27:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06096; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:27:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (209.38.73.28 -> snowmass.leopard.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:27:04 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: dvmak@ibm.net, greg@psnet.net Subject: RE: Win2K and TP770 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 From: Steve Hultquist Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:36:09 GMT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on snowmass/Leopard(Release 5.0 |March 30, 1999) at 01/14/2000 03:36:13 PM, Serialize complete at 01/14/2000 03:36:13 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007B4B6887256866_=" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007B4B6887256866_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Do you still have to reboot after changing IP address? BTW, many of you may not know that you don't need to reboot a Thinkpad to change IP configuration. Instead, make the change as normal, then go to the PC Card icon in the system tray, click on it, stop the network card, eject it, and re-insert it. After re-insertion, it will come up with the new configuration. The reason is that the system unloads the network stack and drivers when you stop the card, then re-loads them when you re-insert it. This little trick will save you some time if you have to change IPs around a lot... ssh --=_alternative 007B4B6887256866_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
>Do you  still have to reboot after changing IP address?

BTW, many of you may not know that you don't need to reboot a Thinkpad to change IP configuration. Instead, make the change as normal, then go to the PC Card icon in the system tray, click on it, stop the network card, eject it, and re-insert it. After re-insertion, it will come up with the new configuration. The reason is that the system unloads the network stack and drivers when you stop the card, then re-loads them when you re-insert it. This little trick will save you some time if you have to change IPs around a lot...

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The motherboard has gone on it (for a 3rd time). 1) What's a motherboard/install worth?? and 2) What would this be worth as is (considering every other component is perfect???) TIA David S. Crombie david@crombie.com From cph Fri Jan 14 17:56:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA13810 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:56:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09445; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:54:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:54:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09352; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:54:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09339; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:54:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:54:17 -0500 Received: from [139.142.112.219] (helo=139-142-112-219.islandnet.com) by mail.islandnet.com with SMTP id 129Fbe-0007f2-00 ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:54:10 -0800 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: dvmak@ibm.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Win2K and TP770 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:49:17 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <000e01bf5ed6$0ed4c2a0$c91248a6@cijeczcig1x68u> In-Reply-To: <000e01bf5ed6$0ed4c2a0$c91248a6@cijeczcig1x68u> Lines: 15 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: > >Everything else seems fine. I only wish that you could set up multiple >profiles for >network cards so I would not have to key in different IP addresses >depending on location.... > I wonder if that is fixable using the Registry and .REG files? Before you stick in a card, you would just run the appropriate .REG file ....? -- cheers Jonathan From cph Fri Jan 14 19:03:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA14191 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:03:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13738; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:02:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:01:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13568; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:01:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13554; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (24.2.9.68 -> ha1.rdc3.on.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:01:12 -0500 Received: from zaphod ([24.112.41.175]) by mail.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with SMTP id <20000114235847.BFMU8825.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@zaphod> for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:58:47 -0800 From: Thomas Koschate Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:00:59 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Win2K and TP770 Message-ID: <8FA7655502F842F8052568660083781B.0000000000000000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: On 2000-01-14 17:36:09, Steve Hultquist wrote: >BTW, many of you may not know that you don't need to reboot a Thinkpad to >change IP configuration. Instead, make the change as normal, then go to >the PC Card icon in the system tray, click on it, stop the network card, >eject it, and re-insert it. Actually, I've generally found that any changes to IP configurations under NT take place immediately without rebooting, and without removing/inserting cards. Works on desktops and notebooks... From cph Fri Jan 14 19:13:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA14242 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:13:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14544; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:12:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:11:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14451; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14430; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:11:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (209.38.73.28 -> snowmass.leopard.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:11:19 -0500 To: Thomas Koschate Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Win2K and TP770 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 From: Steve Hultquist Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:20:22 GMT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on snowmass/Leopard(Release 5.0 |March 30, 1999) at 01/14/2000 05:20:29 PM, Serialize complete at 01/14/2000 05:20:29 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0000FFD987256867_=" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0000FFD987256867_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yep, you're right. That trick is for 95 and 98. Sorry that I wasn't specific. ssh Thomas Koschate 01/14/2000 05:00 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: RE: Win2K and TP770 On 2000-01-14 17:36:09, Steve Hultquist wrote: >BTW, many of you may not know that you don't need to reboot a Thinkpad to >change IP configuration. Instead, make the change as normal, then go to >the PC Card icon in the system tray, click on it, stop the network card, >eject it, and re-insert it. Actually, I've generally found that any changes to IP configurations under NT take place immediately without rebooting, and without removing/inserting cards. Works on desktops and notebooks... --=_alternative 0000FFD987256867_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Yep, you're right. That trick is for 95 and 98. Sorry that I wasn't specific.

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Thomas Koschate <koschate@bigfoot.com>

01/14/2000 05:00 PM

       
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On 2000-01-14 17:36:09, Steve Hultquist wrote:
>BTW, many of you may not know that you don't need to reboot a Thinkpad to
>change IP configuration. Instead, make the change as normal, then go to
>the PC Card icon in the system tray, click on it, stop the network card,
>eject it, and re-insert it.
Actually, I've generally found that any changes to IP configurations under
NT take place immediately without rebooting, and without removing/inserting
cards.  Works on desktops and notebooks...

--=_alternative 0000FFD987256867_=-- From cph Fri Jan 14 20:29:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA14602 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:29:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18984; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:28:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:26:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18805; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:26:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18784; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:26:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (206.31.56.7 -> main.ismi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:26:43 -0500 Received: from denhall (hi9-87.ismi.net [207.51.197.242]) by main.ismi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA00407; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:26:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001f01bf5f00$853efe40$f2c533cf@denhall> From: "Denis Hall" To: "David Crombie" , Subject: Re: 365xd - question Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:30:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hi David, I have some 365XD units that I can part out... give me the exact model # of the unit and I'll see what I can do... Have a Great Day, Denis Hall, Michigan 810.229.2881 -----Original Message----- From: David Crombie To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, January 14, 2000 4:37 PM Subject: 365xd - question >I have a 365xd/64MB/810gb. The motherboard has gone on it (for a 3rd time). >1) What's a motherboard/install worth?? and 2) What would this be worth as >is (considering every other component is perfect???) > >TIA > >David S. Crombie >david@crombie.com > > From cph Sat Jan 15 00:12:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA15492 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:12:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28545; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:07:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28426; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:07:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28410; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.42 -> mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:07:22 -0500 Received: from CIJECZCIGG0ZK6 ([12.79.28.156]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000115050719.NFFS1891@CIJECZCIGG0ZK6>; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 05:07:19 +0000 Message-ID: <003201bf5f16$64f43b30$9c1c4f0c@CIJECZCIGG0ZK6> From: "Donald Mak" To: Cc: References: <000e01bf5ed6$0ed4c2a0$c91248a6@cijeczcig1x68u> <387FA237.57F3@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Win2K and TP770 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:07:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: Though you can't set up multiple profiles for LAN cards you can change the address WITHOUT removing the card. So that is pretty good. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "Donald Mak" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 5:24 PM Subject: Re: Win2K and TP770 > Donald Mak wrote: > > > > Well Win2K final build does not recognize the 770's enhanced video > > adapter so I guess > > DVD hardware playback is not possible (for now) using the IBM adapter. > > > > I don't even know if DVDExpress or SoftDVD will work under Win2K but > > will try later... > > > > Everything else seems fine. I only wish that you could set up multiple > > profiles for > > network cards so I would not have to key in different IP addresses > > depending on location.... > > > > > > > But there are W2K drivers for the Margi DVD to Go card! > From cph Sat Jan 15 03:32:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA15989 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 03:32:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05617; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 03:30:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 15 Jan 2000 03:28:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05418; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 03:28:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta4.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05405; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 03:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta4.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.142 -> mta4.snfc21.pbi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 15 Jan 2000 03:28:25 -0500 Received: from default.local.net ([63.199.31.88]) by mta4.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with SMTP id <0FOD0022PBCWHS@mta4.snfc21.pbi.net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:24:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:24:27 -0800 From: dot com kinda guy Subject: Re: Win2K and TP770 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <001401bf5f31$f02424c0$0100000a@local.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 References: <000e01bf5ed6$0ed4c2a0$c91248a6@cijeczcig1x68u> <387FA237.57F3@worldnet.att.net> <003201bf5f16$64f43b30$9c1c4f0c@CIJECZCIGG0ZK6> X-Priority: 3 List-Unsubscribe: You can setup multiple registry profiles for your LAN card and setup shortcuts on your desktop for them. This way, you just 2x-click the specific reg profile depending on the location you are at, restart the machine and you're all set. Hope this helps. -VA TP560X ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Mak" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 9:07 PM Subject: Re: Win2K and TP770 > Though you can't set up multiple profiles for LAN cards you can > change the address WITHOUT removing the card. So that is > pretty good. > > Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Markowitz" > To: "Donald Mak" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 5:24 PM > Subject: Re: Win2K and TP770 > > > > Donald Mak wrote: > > > > > > Well Win2K final build does not recognize the 770's enhanced video > > > adapter so I guess > > > DVD hardware playback is not possible (for now) using the IBM adapter. > > > > > > I don't even know if DVDExpress or SoftDVD will work under Win2K but > > > will try later... > > > > > > Everything else seems fine. I only wish that you could set up multiple > > > profiles for > > > network cards so I would not have to key in different IP addresses > > > depending on location.... > > > > > > > > > > > But there are W2K drivers for the Margi DVD to Go card! > > > > From cph Sat Jan 15 10:02:00 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA16980 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 10:02:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25903; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:55:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:52:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25750; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clinet.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25736; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:52:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clinet.fi (194.100.0.7 -> mail.clinet.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:52:35 -0500 Received: from TP560 (96-188.dyn.clinet.fi [194.100.96.188]) by mail.clinet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26456 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 16:52:26 +0200 Message-Id: <200001151452.QAA26456@mail.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 16:37:25 +0200 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: DVD questions (TP600E, Margi DVD-to-Go) X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.05 c05 (Unregistered) List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I just bought a ThinkPad 600E (PII/300 w/ 128MB and DVD-drive) and a Margi DVD-to-Go (both on their way from the US). I'm a complete newbie as far as DVD is concerned and I have a few questions. I found a patch for removing the region code on the Margi card at http://www.dvdutils.com/cracks_margi.htm Has any one been applying this patch? Is it safe? I heard the Margi card can become pretty hot when in use. Is it true and can it cause damages to the TP600? Is there any reason why I would want to use the software decoder, now that I have purchased the Margi? Thanks, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Kirkkonummi, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph Sat Jan 15 11:44:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA17248 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:44:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00039; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:38:36 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29850; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:38:36 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id LAA29801 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:35:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01033; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:12:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:12:10 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-118.gate.net [207.36.212.118]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA457774; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:11:57 -0500 Message-ID: <38800FC4.6D206DFD@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:12:20 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Crombie CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 365xd - question References: <000a01bf5edf$79782c60$090210ac@ubarter.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: David.. the most striking thing here is the 64meg memory that you indicate as being on that machine.. all the information i have available shows the max upgrade to be one 32meg DIMM.. as far as value for the parts, the memory has value, the display if you can find someone with a busted or dead display, and the external floppy and ac adapter have value.. also the CD drive.. the 810 drive has value on occasion... i had a customer seeking a small capacity drive this week.. David Crombie wrote: > I have a 365xd/64MB/810gb. The motherboard has gone on it (for a 3rd time). > 1) What's a motherboard/install worth?? and 2) What would this be worth as > is (considering every other component is perfect???) > > TIA > > David S. Crombie > david@crombie.com -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sat Jan 15 11:44:34 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA17252 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:44:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00035; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:38:33 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29836; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:38:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:38:28 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id LAA29786 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:35:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00775; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:05:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:05:02 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-118.gate.net [207.36.212.118]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA16264; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:04:57 -0500 Message-ID: <38800E20.DBE1BD7B@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:05:20 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Slip CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: What parcel do I use to ship this drive back? References: <002501bf5eca$87634d60$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Jamie.. IBM usually uses Airborne.. you should have a case number.. call IBM at 800-772-2227 and ask for the number.. but get that drive back within the time period stated.. Slip wrote: > Hi there, > A while back I had some problems with a HDD and IBM sent me a new one. A > bit later they sent me an empty box with a pre-payed mailing sticker. I'm > unsure however who to call to schedule a pickup! There was no number on the > stick or doccumentation in the box. It's an all white sticker with a yellow > stripe going down the left side. It says 'ground' and 'prepaid' on it. What > number should I call to find out? > > Thanks, > -Jamie -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sat Jan 15 13:03:09 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA17472 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 13:03:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03978; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:56:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03845; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03832; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:56:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (24.128.1.71 -> chmls06.mediaone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:56:37 -0500 Received: from Laptop (h008019357f7a.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.150.141]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA11937 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:56:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeffrey Baker" To: Subject: RE: Win2K and TP770 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:56:29 -0500 Message-ID: <008401bf5f81$d9641ce0$0200a8c0@Laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Hi Don, I think you can use ConfigSafe which comes with the laptop to switch back and forth between different IP addresses. Take a look at their manual or call the software maker in NH for info. -- Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Donald Mak [mailto:dvmak@ibm.net] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 4:27 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Win2K and TP770 Well Win2K final build does not recognize the 770's enhanced video adapter so I guess DVD hardware playback is not possible (for now) using the IBM adapter. I don't even know if DVDExpress or SoftDVD will work under Win2K but will try later... Everything else seems fine. I only wish that you could set up multiple profiles for network cards so I would not have to key in different IP addresses depending on location.... From cph Sun Jan 16 01:13:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA19662 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:13:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26612; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:12:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:11:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26478; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:11:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26465; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:11:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (206.180.224.3 -> tdl.tdl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:11:21 -0500 Received: from chuck (pm1i-197.tdl.com [206.180.234.197]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA05118 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 22:11:19 -0800 Message-Id: <200001160611.WAA05118@tdl.tdl.com> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 22:11:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Updrading to '98 on a 380ED Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) List-Unsubscribe: Need your sage advice --- Am wanting to upgrade from Windows 95 to Windows 98SE on my 380ED. I have downloaded the Bios revision and video and audio features disks, along with the instructions about how to upgrade, how to uninstall CardSoft prior to doing the upgrade, etc. So I think all is lined up. But here is my situation/question: I have my 2.1gb drive partioned into 2 1gb drive (every little cluster bit helps). When I look at C:\windows directory, the total space being taken up is an appalling 400mb. I think I will get better results from installing "fresh" rather than upgrading, and may gain some disk space (and won't have to worry about junk in the registry, unneeded dlls, etc, etc.). What I intend to do is backup all of my data to the D: drive parition, and am willing to reinstall the applications. How do I wipe the c: drive clean before installing a fresh install of 98SE? Do I start Windows to a DOS prompt, delete everything (other than autoexec and config.sys) on the drive from there, then installing 98SE >from the CD? Or does the install CD itself have an option for wiping the C drive and doing a fresh install? (I obviously don't want to format the disk because then I lose the D drive partition where I've backed up the data). Any help or insights or horror stories would be appreciated..... Chuck Blaisdell From cph Sun Jan 16 09:39:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA30250 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 09:39:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20480; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 09:37:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 09:35:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20356; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 09:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20343; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 09:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.19 -> mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 09:35:36 -0500 Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.199]) by mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000116143528.WRZM28505@dts-jl> for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:35:28 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20000116093434.009c4100@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 09:34:34 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Updrading to '98 on a 380ED In-Reply-To: <200001160611.WAA05118@tdl.tdl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:11 PM 1/15/00 -0800, Chuck Blaisdell wrote: >How do I wipe the c: drive clean before installing a fresh install of 98SE? >Do I start Windows to a DOS prompt, delete everything (other than >autoexec and config.sys) on the drive from there, then installing 98SE >from the CD? Or does the install CD itself have an option for wiping the >C drive and doing a fresh install? (I obviously don't want to format the >disk because then I lose the D drive partition where I've backed up the >data). > FORMAT C: from a DOS prompt shouldn't have any effect on your D: partition unless you mistype D: for C: and answer Y without realizing it. Now, if you FDISK and delete both partitions, you'll lose your D: partition. Can't answer the question of whether or not 98SE will format the partition for you or not since I haven't used it. From cph Sun Jan 16 12:53:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA30686 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:53:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26430; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:51:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26282; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26269; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (207.0.68.7 -> home.dwave.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:51:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA32665 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:54:30 -0600 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:54:29 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Upgrading to '98 on a 380ED In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > From: Chuck Blaisdell > How do I wipe the c: drive clean before installing a fresh install of > 98SE? Do I start Windows to a DOS prompt, delete everything (other than > autoexec and config.sys) on the drive from there, then installing 98SE > from the CD? Or does the install CD itself have an option for wiping > the C drive and doing a fresh install? (I obviously don't want to > format the disk because then I lose the D drive partition where I've > backed up the data). You can indeed format C: as another reply stated. Windows98 can install to a clean drive. However, Windows98SE UPGRADE may not have a boot disk, or it may require a Win95 (or Win3.x) floppy or CD to be present to install. As you are concerned about drive space, you probably do NOT want to do what I do with Win95 (that's right, I have not upgraded and don't really want to), and that is to copy all the files to my hard drive and install >from there. You then never need the original CD again for drivers or network protocols or whatever. The size of Win98 may make that less than useful. If you can get Win98SE OEM, then it comes with a boot disk with CD drivers and will happily install to a blank C drive, or even to an unpartitioned drive. Still, you should make a backup in any case. Get a network card and backup to a machine with a big cheap hard drive or tape or CD recorder. Best of luck, Chris Schumann "Wait a minute, Joe. If what you're saying is true, then I still don't care." - Dave Nelson, News Radio From cph Sun Jan 16 15:55:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA31319 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:55:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02651; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:54:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:53:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02515; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ISI_SYD.ISI.COM.AU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02500; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:52:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ISI_SYD.ISI.COM.AU (203.111.103.66) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:53:00 -0500 Received: from zip.com.au ([203.111.103.114]) by ISI_SYD.ISI.COM.AU (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.1 (Intl)) with ESMTP id 2000011707522101:249 ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 07:52:21 +1100 Message-ID: <38822F96.654D281@zip.com.au> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 07:52:38 +1100 From: Chris Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Win2K and TP770 References: X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on LN01/ISI/AU(Release 5.0.1 (Intl)|16 July 1999) at 01/17/2000 07:52:21 AM, Serialize by Router on LN01/ISI/AU(Release 5.0.1 (Intl)|16 July 1999) at 01/17/2000 07:52:43 AM, Serialize complete at 01/17/2000 07:52:43 AM X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: > you can use select-a-net http://www.ut-zone.com/selectanet to do this with no worries. c. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: Win2K and TP770 > Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:56:29 -0500 > From: "Jeffrey Baker" > To: > > Hi Don, > I think you can use ConfigSafe which comes with the laptop to switch back > and forth between different IP addresses. Take a look at their manual or > call the software maker in NH for info. -- Jeff > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald Mak [mailto:dvmak@ibm.net] > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 4:27 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Win2K and TP770 > > Well Win2K final build does not recognize the 770's enhanced video adapter > so I guess > DVD hardware playback is not possible (for now) using the IBM adapter. > I don't even know if DVDExpress or SoftDVD will work under Win2K but will > try later... > Everything else seems fine. I only wish that you could set up multiple > profiles for > network cards so I would not have to key in different IP addresses depending > on location.... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Sun Jan 16 19:10:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA31761 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:10:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09546; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:09:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:09:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09365; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.accessus.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09352; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:09:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.accessus.net (209.145.150.75 -> postal.accessus.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:09:07 -0500 Received: from Doc (mtv-i-1-81.accessus.net [207.206.139.81]) by mail1.accessus.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4739672791 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:08:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003901bf6080$0bbbca40$fabececf@accessus.net> From: "Stan Blank" To: References: <38822F96.654D281@zip.com.au> Subject: Thinkpad 701c and Linux Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:16:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Please forgive if this issue has been hashed before: I have a Thinkpad 701c, 16meg, 720mb HD in pristine condition. I would like to install Linux on this machine for no other reason than to do it. I have the Panasonic KXL-D720 2x PCMCIA CD-ROM and a parallel zip drive. Anyone have any luck doing this? I have Red Hat Linux 6.1. I would appreciate any pointers to a web-site detailing the procedure. Thanks! Stan --------------------------------------------- Stan Blank, Ph.D. Wayne City High School Wayne City, IL 62895 --------------------------------------------- From cph Sun Jan 16 21:00:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA32098 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:00:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14527; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:00:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:59:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14378; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.jps.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14365; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.jps.net (209.63.224.103 -> smtp6.jps.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:59:30 -0500 Received: from MelsDesktop (209-239-198-218.oak.jps.net [209.239.198.218]) by smtp6.jps.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA06854 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:59:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00bf01bf608e$5730c620$c9c8c8c8@jps.net> From: "Mel" To: "Thinkpad List" References: <200001080431.XAA28459@smtp6.mindspring.com> Subject: Wrong Profile as a result of your - Re: need Thinkpad parts Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:58:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Ever since you sent this message and I went to the link I can onlu get into you profile screens. Any ideas how I can get my profile back? I deleted all the ibm related cookies I could find. ----- Original Message ----- From: Allan To: Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 8:30 PM Subject: RE: need Thinkpad parts > Go to > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3PGTDY.html?lang=en_US&page=brand&bra > nd=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+760CD%7C9546%7C4Y5&family=IBM+ThinkPad%7 > CThinkPad+760CD&machineType=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+760CD%7C9546&m > odel=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+760CD%7C9546%7C4Y5&doctype=Hot+news&su > btype=All&up=%25%25q7X9J7ZCXQ7fXxeeBtK&ut=loginCount%3D4%26productCount > %3D3%26lastLoginDate%3D2000-01-07-23.26.12.093054%26type1%3D9546%26userI > D%3D%26greeting%3DWelcome%2Bback%252C%2BMr.%2BBallard%26brand%3D > IBM%2BThinkPad%26family%3DThinkPad%2B760CD%26model1%3D4Y5 > > and check for 760C/CD. MWAVE drivers are there for dose9x. > > If the URL above is a bit long, then enter > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/tpopsys.html > > and select your 760C model. > > Allan Ballard > 760CD p120 64Mb 3.0 gig > 760XL p133 104Mb 3.0 gig > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:08:02 -0500, Kaste wrote: > > >OK, I have just talked to a friend and now I understand what everyone here > >is talking about. > > > >I ran the test and I have a DSP. > > > >I also found that one IBM's web site, but there is no drivers for it, does > >anyone have drivers for a Mwave DSP for a 760C???Please... I am running > >windows98 > > > >Thanks everyone for your time and patients. > >Garrett. > > > > > From cph Sun Jan 16 23:06:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA32503 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:06:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19827; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:04:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19694; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19681; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (156.3.140.68 -> muse.calarts.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:04:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (knowlton@localhost) by muse.calarts.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA89000; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:05:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:05:17 -0800 From: Jeff Knowlton To: Stan Blank cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c and Linux In-Reply-To: <003901bf6080$0bbbca40$fabececf@accessus.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi new to the list, so this is my first post. I don't have a 701 but saw it listed on the Linux on Laptops site. http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/#specific_models There is a link to this page: http://reality.sgi.com/mende/linuxTP701/ Here is a Quote "Linux runs very well on the IBM ThinkPad 701. This document details my experience with piepad (my ThinkPad) ... Hopefully you will have as good luck." Hope this helps jeff knowlton On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Stan Blank wrote: > Please forgive if this issue has been hashed before: > > I have a Thinkpad 701c, 16meg, 720mb HD in pristine condition. I would like > to install Linux on this machine for no other reason than to do it. I have > the Panasonic KXL-D720 2x PCMCIA CD-ROM and a parallel zip drive. > > Anyone have any luck doing this? I have Red Hat Linux 6.1. I would > appreciate any pointers to a web-site detailing the procedure. > > Thanks! > > Stan > > --------------------------------------------- > Stan Blank, Ph.D. > Wayne City High School > Wayne City, IL 62895 > --------------------------------------------- > From cph Sun Jan 16 23:10:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA32523 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:10:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20154; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:09:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:09:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20081; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20063; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:09:24 -0500 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA15566; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:09:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:09:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" To: Jeff Knowlton cc: Stan Blank , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c and Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I've got two 701C's, and Red Hat 4.2 and greater (but *not* earlier) installed like a charm -- the sound is easy, the modem works fine, PCMCIA is a piece of cake, etc., etc., etc. Note that 6.1, with Enlightenment, is a bit of a memory hog, so I'd probably stay away from Gnome and E, and go with stock WindowMaker, instead. That aside, have fun! Ken D'Ambrosio SysAdmin, Cisco Systems, Inc. On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Jeff Knowlton wrote: > Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:05:17 -0800 > From: Jeff Knowlton > To: Stan Blank > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c and Linux > > Hi new to the list, so this is my first post. > > I don't have a 701 but saw it listed on the Linux on Laptops site. > http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/#specific_models > > There is a link to this page: > http://reality.sgi.com/mende/linuxTP701/ > > Here is a Quote > > "Linux runs very well on the IBM ThinkPad 701. This document details my > experience with piepad (my ThinkPad) ... Hopefully you will have as good > luck." > > Hope this helps > jeff knowlton > > > On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Stan Blank wrote: > > > Please forgive if this issue has been hashed before: > > > > I have a Thinkpad 701c, 16meg, 720mb HD in pristine condition. I would like > > to install Linux on this machine for no other reason than to do it. I have > > the Panasonic KXL-D720 2x PCMCIA CD-ROM and a parallel zip drive. > > > > Anyone have any luck doing this? I have Red Hat Linux 6.1. I would > > appreciate any pointers to a web-site detailing the procedure. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Stan > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > Stan Blank, Ph.D. > > Wayne City High School > > Wayne City, IL 62895 > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > > From cph Mon Jan 17 00:26:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA00370 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:26:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27125; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:21:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26975; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.accessus.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26962; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.accessus.net (209.145.150.75 -> postal.accessus.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:21:34 -0500 Received: from Doc (mtv-i-2-160.accessus.net [207.206.139.160]) by mail1.accessus.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BA097267C; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:21:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002801bf60ab$b9508800$fabececf@accessus.net> From: "Stan Blank" To: "Jeff Knowlton" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c and Linux Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:28:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Thanks Jeff, I'll take a look! Stan > Hi new to the list, so this is my first post. > > I don't have a 701 but saw it listed on the Linux on Laptops site. > http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/#specific_models > > There is a link to this page: > http://reality.sgi.com/mende/linuxTP701/ > > Here is a Quote > > "Linux runs very well on the IBM ThinkPad 701. This document details my > experience with piepad (my ThinkPad) ... Hopefully you will have as good > luck." > > Hope this helps > jeff knowlton > > > On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Stan Blank wrote: > > > Please forgive if this issue has been hashed before: > > > > I have a Thinkpad 701c, 16meg, 720mb HD in pristine condition. I would like > > to install Linux on this machine for no other reason than to do it. I have > > the Panasonic KXL-D720 2x PCMCIA CD-ROM and a parallel zip drive. > > > > Anyone have any luck doing this? I have Red Hat Linux 6.1. I would > > appreciate any pointers to a web-site detailing the procedure. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Stan > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > Stan Blank, Ph.D. > > Wayne City High School > > Wayne City, IL 62895 > > --------------------------------------------- > > > From cph Mon Jan 17 00:32:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA00405 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:32:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28464; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:31:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28357; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.accessus.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28343; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:31:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.accessus.net (209.145.150.75 -> postal.accessus.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:31:12 -0500 Received: from Doc (mtv-i-2-160.accessus.net [207.206.139.160]) by mail1.accessus.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A756E7276F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:31:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <006401bf60ad$1175ba40$fabececf@accessus.net> From: "Stan Blank" To: References: Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c and Linux Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:38:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I just found out that the KXL-D720 PCMCIA card (CDROM) is not supported (from the web link Jeff Knowlton sent me). If this is true, then I'm probably out of luck. Thanks! Stan From cph Mon Jan 17 09:37:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA01871 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:37:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10403; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:34:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10239; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:34:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from rattler.gtfc.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10218; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:34:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from rattler.gtfc.com (206.146.7.2 -> rattler.gtfc.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:34:49 -0500 Received: from rattler.gtfc.com (root@localhost) by rattler.gtfc.com with ESMTP id IAA15808; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:33:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from netscape.net ([10.1.11.49]) by rattler.gtfc.com with ESMTP id IAA15804; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:33:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <388327FF.85E0D4@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:32:31 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Wrong Profile as a result of your - Re: need Thinkpad parts References: <200001080431.XAA28459@smtp6.mindspring.com> <00bf01bf608e$5730c620$c9c8c8c8@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Try going to http://www.pc.ibm.com/support and click 'Logout' at the top part of the screen. Close all open browser windows, then open one and go back to the support site and log in. That should do it. HTH, Rob Mel wrote: > Ever since you sent this message and I went to the link I can onlu get into > you profile screens. Any ideas how I can get my profile back? I deleted all > the ibm related cookies I could find. 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Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I'm finally shopping for a brand new laptop, and naturally started with IBM. I want a fast machine: 450MHz PIII should do the job, but money may be a consideration. I'm not struck be the i series. Are they really typically great IBM products, or are they a second-class (that is, second class for IBM) substitute? What do you give up for the price? Comparing the 390X to the 600X, the same price in a 600X gives up a hard drive size or two, and loses an inch on the display compared to the 390X. What gives? Does one gain anything like internal expandability? Docking options? Performance? Weight? Battery life? I am a constract programmer and swapping hard drives may be of benefit. Can any new IBM machine swap the main hard drive without a screwdriver? (770's are not advertised at IBM's site, so I'm not considering them current.) All input greatly appreciated. Chris Schumann (who hasn't bought a NEW ThinkPad since his 750P) "Wait a minute, Joe. If what you're saying is true, then I still don't care." - Dave Nelson, News Radio From cph Mon Jan 17 14:15:10 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA03424 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:15:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00564; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:13:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00442; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:13:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00432; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:13:39 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.10 -> imo20.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:13:39 -0500 Received: from TAUBELS@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id o.46.8851e8 (4412) for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:13:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <46.8851e8.25b4c3dd@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:13:33 EST Subject: Unsubscribe To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: From cph Mon Jan 17 14:23:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA03502 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:23:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01515; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:21:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:21:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01386; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01372; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:21:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (156.3.140.68 -> muse.calarts.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:21:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (knowlton@localhost) by muse.calarts.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA74238; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:22:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:22:14 -0800 From: Jeff Knowlton To: Stan Blank cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 730t and Linux In-Reply-To: <006401bf60ad$1175ba40$fabececf@accessus.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone got Linux running on the 730t tablet? I know there may be a hand writing recognition engine under Solaris that might work, but what about getting linux up and running on the 730t in the first place? jeff knowlton From cph Mon Jan 17 14:56:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA03717 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:56:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04424; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:53:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04208; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04193; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (203.96.92.1 -> mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:53:16 -0500 Received: from 210-55-146-143.dialup.xtra.co.nz ([210.55.146.143]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <20000117200105.NJLG6460852.mta1-rme@210-55-146-143.dialup.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:01:05 +1300 From: Tom Cole To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: DVD questions (TP600E, Margi DVD-to-Go) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:50:55 +1300 Message-ID: References: <200001151452.QAA26456@mail.clinet.fi> In-Reply-To: <200001151452.QAA26456@mail.clinet.fi> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id OAA03722 Hi Dominique I have a Margi DVD-to-go card and it works fine. The heat does not seem to affect my 600E. I use the same region crack and it works fine with my region 1 and region 4 DVDs. The only criticisms I have with the card is slow Fast Forward & Rewind speeds, and problems with some DVD interactive menus where the on-screen cursor does not line-up with the options. Hope this helps Tom Cole On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 16:37:25 +0200, Dominique Pivard wrote: >Hi, > >I just bought a ThinkPad 600E (PII/300 w/ 128MB and DVD-drive) and a Margi >DVD-to-Go (both on their way from the US). I'm a complete newbie as far as >DVD is concerned and I have a few questions. > >I found a patch for removing the region code on the Margi card at >http://www.dvdutils.com/cracks_margi.htm Has any one been applying this >patch? Is it safe? > >I heard the Margi card can become pretty hot when in use. Is it true and >can it cause damages to the TP600? > >Is there any reason why I would want to use the software decoder, now that >I have purchased the Margi? > >Thanks, Dominique -- Tom Cole Lower Hutt New Zealand tcole@xtra.co.nz From cph Mon Jan 17 16:05:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA04190 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:05:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08818; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:03:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:02:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08691; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:02:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08657; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:02:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (24.2.9.68 -> ha1.rdc3.on.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:02:29 -0500 Received: from 452366-a ([24.114.126.73]) by mail.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP id <20000117210004.PXEN15357.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a>; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:00:04 -0800 From: "Tom Trottier" To: Joe Suttle , Think Pad List Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:02:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Need 701 Replicator Reply-to: TomATrottier@home.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <387ADA3C.997F2F18@pacbell.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-Id: <20000117210004.PXEN15357.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> List-Unsubscribe: Hi Joe How about some epoxy putty, with a little filing? -- Mine is loose, but just taking care now... Others, does epoxy stick to this plastic? Tom On 10 Jan 00, at 23:22, Joe Suttle spoke about *Need 701 Replicator..* saying > Tried ebay, but did not find any port replicators for the 701. The > hooks on the latch broke off about a year ago when someone moved my > 701 around. Don't want to go to IBM unless absolutely necessary. Any > ideas? BTW it still runs great with 40M RAM and 3.1G Drive (OS/2 W4, > WarpServer and W95). -- Joe Suttle * IBM Warp Certified System Expert > jsuttle@pacbell.net Hercules, California > http://home.pacbell.net/csuttle/joes_home.htm > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > The one thing you can't recycle is time > Lost time is never found again. > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > +-+ > Using the power of OS/2 - Warp 4, Warp Server for e-business, > Internet Gate, SmartSuite OS/2, Netscape 4.6 > ------------------------- And a happy New Millenium to you and yours.PLEASE NOTE MY NEW eMAIL ADDRESS! From:Tom Trottier, 400 Slater St. Suite 415, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 __o ICQ:57647974 _ \< Voice: +1 613 291-1168 fax: 594-5412 No ads or spam, please (*)/'(*) Vote for your favourite Olympus camera at http://www.freevote.com/booth/fav_camera From cph Mon Jan 17 16:14:10 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA04255 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:14:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09482; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:12:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09354; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:12:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09316; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:11:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (24.2.9.68 -> ha1.rdc3.on.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:11:57 -0500 Received: from 452366-a ([24.114.126.73]) by mail.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP id <20000117210940.PZQF15357.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:09:40 -0800 From: "Tom Trottier" To: "Thinkpad List" Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:11:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Workpad z50 now $299 Reply-to: TomATrottier@home.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <087301bf5ebb$46bcb210$0d00a8c0@dec5200> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-Id: <20000117210940.PZQF15357.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> List-Unsubscribe: Note that the extra battery is $216.40, so buy two workpads... Tom On 14 Jan 00, at 13:15, R Briganti spoke about *Workpad z50 now $299..* saying > If anyone is interested, the Workpad z50 is now selling for $299 at > CDW. I hadn't realized that prices had fallen so low. Granted it is > a WinCE device, but it is small, with a long-lived battery and now > inexpensive. > > The web page is > http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=201666. > > > ------------------------- And a happy New Millenium to you and yours.PLEASE NOTE MY NEW eMAIL ADDRESS! From:Tom Trottier, 400 Slater St. Suite 415, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 __o ICQ:57647974 _ \< Voice: +1 613 291-1168 fax: 594-5412 No ads or spam, please (*)/'(*) Vote for your favourite Olympus camera at http://www.freevote.com/booth/fav_camera From cph Mon Jan 17 17:07:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA04629 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:07:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12904; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:06:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:05:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12798; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12779; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:05:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:05:50 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA22088; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:05:39 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <003101bf6137$174a3ce0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: , "Joe Suttle" , "Think Pad List" References: <20000117210004.PXEN15357.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> Subject: Re: Need 701 Replicator Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:06:20 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Tom asked: "Others, does epoxy stick to this plastic?" A: Not terribly well. Best is an ABS solvent adhesive, which you can find at your local hardware/plumbing supply store. I use the stuff that works on both ABS and PVC, since it is broader spectrum. This is great for laptop plastics (which is, after all, and ABS composition). - David R. 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To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu References: Organization: X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Message-Id: <20000117204618.F04F3EAFD@seneca.muc.de> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:46:18 +0100 (CET) List-Unsubscribe: Chris Schumann wrote: > I'm not struck be the i series. Are they really typically great IBM > products, or are they a second-class (that is, second class for IBM) > substitute? What do you give up for the price? The i series is an OEM product, not vintage IBM. > (770's are not advertised at IBM's site, so I'm not considering them > current.) They were just withdrawn from marketing. But you may get one cheap on Ebay or somewhere else. They are heavyweight but great IMHO. -- "We have reason to believe that man first walked upright to free his hands for masturbation." -- Lily Tomlin From cph Mon Jan 17 21:19:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA06060 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:19:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27011; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:18:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:17:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26875; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:17:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from masada.royl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26862; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from masada.royl.com (208.240.192.9 -> masada.royl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:17:55 -0500 Received: from HOME (northpoint-103-162.dsl.veriosd.net [209.75.103.162]) by masada.royl.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 288 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:04:00 -0800 Message-ID: <004901bf6159$ec30d4b0$a2674bd1@hosmer.org> From: "Stephen Hosmer" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: CD booting a 760CD Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:14:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF6116.B5AF1BB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF6116.B5AF1BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know if you can boot a 760CD from the CD? ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF6116.B5AF1BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know if you can boot a = 760CD  from=20 the CD?
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF6116.B5AF1BB0-- From cph Mon Jan 17 21:50:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA06228 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:50:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28694; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:47:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:47:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28595; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:47:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28581; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:47:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:47:25 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax33.vramp.net [198.138.8.96]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA04357; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:47:00 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Stephen Hosmer" , "Thinkpad" Subject: RE: CD booting a 760CD Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:46:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: <004901bf6159$ec30d4b0$a2674bd1@hosmer.org> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I'm not sure, but if you can, it can be selected as a boot device in Easy Setup. If it's not supported, then you won't be able to select it. Regards, James -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Hosmer [mailto:hosmer@royl.com] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 9:15 PM To: Thinkpad Subject: CD booting a 760CD Does anyone know if you can boot a 760CD from the CD? From cph Mon Jan 17 22:01:14 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA06293 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:01:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29387; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:59:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:59:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29312; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:59:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29299; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:59:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (140.174.2.1 -> toad.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:59:10 -0500 Received: from ken2 (182.new-york-30-35rs.ny.dial-access.att.net [12.79.51.182]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA18984; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:59:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000117214123.00d3d430@mail.ny.viant.com> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Kenzo's Useful Mail Client v3 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:58:51 -0500 To: Chris Schumann , Thinkpad list From: Ken Subject: Re: 390X vs 600X? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Chris - I actually started a thread with the same subject line on 12/27/99. At 01:15 PM 1/17/00 -0600, Chris Schumann wrote: >Comparing the 390X to the 600X, the same price in a 600X gives up a hard >drive size or two, and loses an inch on the display compared to the 390X. >What gives? Does one gain anything like internal expandability? Docking >options? Performance? Weight? Battery life? I have compared the two machines. The summary: The 390X is a superior machine, but substantially less portable (much larger and heavier). The 600X has only a 13.3" screen, inferior video capabilities, lacks such things I've been spoiled by on my 770ED as hot swapping of CD/floppy drives and resume from suspend at time X. But it's not bad, and it's really light and small for what you get (500MHz PIII, lots of room for RAM, 12GB hard drive); and, unlike the similarly-lightweight 570 series, the CD drive is part of the main unit, and doesn't require a docking station >I am a constract programmer and swapping hard drives may be of benefit. I do not know the answer to this question. I suspect that, if either one is expandable, it's going to be the 390. The 390 seemed to be a desktop-replacement machine, whereas the 600 seemed to be a compromise between portability and features. (I own a 770ED, and I use a 600X that my employer purchased.) Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph Mon Jan 17 23:08:04 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA06620 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:08:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02457; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:05:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:05:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02276; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:05:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mw2.texas.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02262; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:04:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mw2.texas.net (206.127.30.12 -> mw2.texas.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:04:59 -0500 Received: from pc1 (tcnet19-058.sat.texas.net [209.99.126.184]) by mw2.texas.net (2.4/2.4) with SMTP id WAA08292 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:04:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002701bf6169$16f24620$b87e63d1@pc1> From: "TD" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Thinkpad 770 and external mic problem? Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:04:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: I can't seem to get my 770 or my brother's 770ED to work with an external mic. I tried two different mics....messed with all the audio properties/volume/gain control, etc. and still can't seem to get one to work. The internal mic works fine....but is pretty useless for teleconferencing unless you still your face right new to the keyboard. Anyone know what might be wrong? -T- From cph Mon Jan 17 23:08:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA06624 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:08:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02461; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:05:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:05:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02362; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:05:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from warspite.cnchost.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02348; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:05:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from warspite.cnchost.com (207.155.248.9 -> warspite.concentric.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:05:45 -0500 Received: from RJWLaptop1 (w066.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.66]) by warspite.cnchost.com id XAA01335; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:05:43 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.8] Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000117195914.00a5b820@pop3.iceka1.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka1.com@pop3.iceka1.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:02:46 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: 390X vs 600X? In-Reply-To: <20000117204618.F04F3EAFD@seneca.muc.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 09:46 PM 01/17/2000 +0100, you wrote: > > (770's are not advertised at IBM's site, so I'm not considering them > > current.) > >They were just withdrawn from marketing. But you may get one cheap on Ebay >or somewhere else. They are heavyweight but great IMHO. I noted that apparently the entire 7XX series has been dumped and more or less replaced by the 600 series. Odd...when I got my 600 18-ish months ago, I commented on this list that the only real difference the 770's had was video capability and apparently hardware MPEG/DVD assist. Well, plug that in to the TP 600 and suddenly the 770 is nothing more than an overweight 600. ;-) IBM figured this out and apparently dumped the product in favor of a beefed-up 600. - Randy Whittle From cph Mon Jan 17 23:14:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA06637 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:14:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03136; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:11:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:11:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03061; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:11:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03047; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:11:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.50 -> avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:11:34 -0500 Received: from pavilion (sdn-ar-005mnminnP050.dialsprint.net [168.191.109.34]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA15592; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:11:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000701bf6169$33009600$0101a8c0@pavilion> From: "seajay" To: "TP List" , "Randal Whittle" References: <4.2.0.58.20000117195914.00a5b820@pop3.iceka1.com> Subject: Re: 390X vs 600X? Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:05:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Thank you for your prompt reply, I apologize for not being more clear. I have a new replacement (keyboard) for my Thinkpad 365XD, but can't see an obvious way to replace it. Needless to say, I want to be very careful. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randal Whittle" To: "TP List" Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 10:02 PM Subject: Re: 390X vs 600X? > At 09:46 PM 01/17/2000 +0100, you wrote: > > > (770's are not advertised at IBM's site, so I'm not considering them > > > current.) > > > >They were just withdrawn from marketing. But you may get one cheap on Ebay > >or somewhere else. They are heavyweight but great IMHO. > > I noted that apparently the entire 7XX series has been dumped and > more or less replaced by the 600 series. > > Odd...when I got my 600 18-ish months ago, I commented on this > list that the only real difference the 770's had was video capability and > apparently hardware MPEG/DVD assist. Well, plug that in to the TP 600 and > suddenly the 770 is nothing more than an overweight 600. ;-) IBM figured > this out and apparently dumped the product in favor of a beefed-up 600. > > - Randy Whittle > From cph Mon Jan 17 23:22:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA06658 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:22:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03780; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:20:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:20:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03706; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03693; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (140.174.2.1 -> toad.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:20:33 -0500 Received: from ken2 (182.new-york-30-35rs.ny.dial-access.att.net [12.79.51.182]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA20661; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:20:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000117231656.00d3e4f0@mail.ny.viant.com> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Kenzo's Useful Mail Client v3 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:20:13 -0500 To: Randal Whittle , Thinkpad list From: Ken Subject: Re: 390X vs 600X?: 600 inferior to 770 and 390 In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000117195914.00a5b820@pop3.iceka1.com> References: <20000117204618.F04F3EAFD@seneca.muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:02 PM 1/17/00 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: >I noted that apparently the entire 7XX series has been dumped and more or less replaced > by the 600 series. > Odd...when I got my 600 18-ish months ago, I commented on this list that the only real difference the 770's had was video capability and apparently hardware MPEG/DVD assist. Well, plug that in to the TP 600 and suddenly the 770 is nothing more than an overweight 600. ;-) IBM figured this out and apparently dumped the product in favor of a beefed-up 600. As an owner of a 600 and a 770, I really do feel that the 600 is quite inferior to the 770 (except, of course, that it has a much faster processor, but that's just a function of the date it was released, as the 770 was state of the art at the time, also). My impression from reading the specs was that the 390 is much more in line with the 770. The 600 is skimpy compared to the 770. But, I haven't actually used a 390. Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph Mon Jan 17 23:24:00 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA06666 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:23:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04060; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:22:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03985; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03972; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.229 -> out2.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:22:06 -0500 Received: from GREGORYZEQXR4X ([32.101.156.187]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2000011804214322900vhe4fe>; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:21:44 +0000 From: "Gregory Harris" To: Subject: 770X and Standby Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:22:28 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, I'm running a 770X with 14.1Gig/256M/13.7/Win2000 as a development machine, although this problem occurred also with Win98. Regurlarly I find that while surfing or just generally using my laptop, the machine will drop into Standby mode. I _feel_ that this happens after some combination of keytrokes and trackpoint movement but I can't find anything consistent. Anybody else have this problem or any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Greg Harris From cph Mon Jan 17 23:32:53 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA06704 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:32:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04870; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:30:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04776; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:30:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from warspite.cnchost.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04763; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:30:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from warspite.cnchost.com (207.155.248.9 -> warspite.concentric.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:30:47 -0500 Received: from RJWLaptop1 (w066.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.66]) by warspite.cnchost.com id XAA07255; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:30:45 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.8] Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000117202335.00a6f610@pop3.iceka1.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka1.com@pop3.iceka1.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:24:30 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: 390X vs 600X?: 600 inferior to 770 and 390 In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000117231656.00d3e4f0@mail.ny.viant.com> References: <4.2.0.58.20000117195914.00a5b820@pop3.iceka1.com> <20000117204618.F04F3EAFD@seneca.muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 11:20 PM 01/17/2000 -0500, you wrote: >At 08:02 PM 1/17/00 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > >I noted that apparently the entire 7XX series has been dumped and more > or less replaced > > by the 600 series. > > Odd...when I got my 600 18-ish months ago, I commented on this > list that the only real difference the 770's had was video capability and > apparently hardware MPEG/DVD assist. Well, plug that in to the TP 600 > and suddenly the 770 is nothing more than an overweight 600. ;-) IBM > figured this out and apparently dumped the product in favor of a beefed-up 600. > >As an owner of a 600 and a 770, I really do feel that the 600 is quite >inferior to the 770 (except, of course, that it has a much faster >processor, but that's just a function of the date it was released, as the >770 was state of the art at the time, also). My impression from reading >the specs was that the 390 is much more in line with the 770. The 600 is >skimpy compared to the 770. But, I haven't actually used a 390. Alright then. Describe the features--other than what I already pointed out above (and which have since been added into the 600 in current models), that made the 600 inferior to the 770. - Randy Whittle From cph Mon Jan 17 23:49:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA06774 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:49:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05891; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:47:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05810; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:47:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from warspite.cnchost.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05797; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:47:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from warspite.cnchost.com (207.155.248.9 -> warspite.concentric.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:47:51 -0500 Received: from RJWLaptop1 (w066.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.66]) by warspite.cnchost.com id XAA10872; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:47:49 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.8] Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000117204301.00a6c100@pop3.iceka1.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka1.com@pop3.iceka1.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:47:15 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: RE: 390X vs 600X? In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.58.20000117195914.00a5b820@pop3.iceka1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 08:22 PM 01/17/2000 -0800, you wrote: >The major difference between the 7XX and the 6XX series as far as I'm >concerned is the 13.7" SXGA display that I don't think I could live >without... Opinions differ, of course, but in my own opinion, a whopping 0.4" diagonal size difference is entirely negligible, and the additional resolution in that same space just makes things like icons tinier. High res. without bigger physical size (and is 0.4" *really* "bigger"?) is really a detriment. At any rate, its a fair point. The 770 did indeed have a larger, and higher-res. screen. It just depends on whether the amount of difference is worth consideration or not. I believe it is negligible, and in some ways, even a step back. It just isn't physically big enough to do a good job with the higher resolution. - Randy Whittle From cph Tue Jan 18 02:05:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA07138 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:05:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11380; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:05:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:03:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11206; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:03:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacs03.infoave.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11191; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacs03.infoave.net (165.166.0.13 -> pacs03.InfoAve.Net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:03:16 -0500 Received: from dial-26.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net ("port 1029"@[206.74.61.156]) by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) with SMTP id <01JKU05GDD38A15O3A@InfoAve.Net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:03:04 EST Received: by dial-26.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net with Microsoft Mail id <01BF6158.5682EB20@dial-26.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net>; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:04:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:54:21 -0500 From: Stan Jacobs Subject: RE: Workpad z50 now $299 To: Thinkpad List Message-id: <01BF6158.5682EB20@dial-26.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id CAA07139 Question. Will the workpad run MSDOS programs or do the programs have to be written especially for Windows CE. Is there any market in programs for Windows CE. Stan Jacobs ---------- From: Tom Trottier[SMTP:tom@act.ca] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 4:11 PM To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Workpad z50 now $299 Note that the extra battery is $216.40, so buy two workpads... Tom On 14 Jan 00, at 13:15, R Briganti spoke about *Workpad z50 now $299..* saying > If anyone is interested, the Workpad z50 is now selling for $299 at > CDW. I hadn't realized that prices had fallen so low. Granted it is > a WinCE device, but it is small, with a long-lived battery and now > inexpensive. > > The web page is > http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=201666. > > > ------------------------- And a happy New Millenium to you and yours.PLEASE NOTE MY NEW eMAIL ADDRESS! From:Tom Trottier, 400 Slater St. Suite 415, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 __o ICQ:57647974 _ \< Voice: +1 613 291-1168 fax: 594-5412 No ads or spam, please (*)/'(*) Vote for your favourite Olympus camera at http://www.freevote.com/booth/fav_camera From cph Tue Jan 18 02:12:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA07148 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:12:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11771; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:09:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11597; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:09:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp5.jps.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11584; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:09:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp5.jps.net (209.63.224.55 -> smtp5.jps.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:09:46 -0500 Received: from MelsDesktop (209-239-194-21.oak.jps.net [209.239.194.21]) by smtp5.jps.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA03249 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:09:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001d01bf6182$da65a340$c9c8c8c8@jps.net> From: "Mel" To: "Thinkpad List" References: <200001080431.XAA28459@smtp6.mindspring.com> <00bf01bf608e$5730c620$c9c8c8c8@jps.net> <388327FF.85E0D4@netscape.net> Subject: Re: Wrong Profile as a result of your - Re: need Thinkpad parts Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:08:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Thank you all for your help - I'm logged in correctly now. From cph Tue Jan 18 02:19:53 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA07159 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:19:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12265; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:17:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12124; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.twigger.be (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12110; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:17:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.twigger.be (212.206.54.4 -> www.twigger.be) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:17:23 -0500 X-WebMail-UserID: eu005988@eunet.be Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:22:57 +0100 Sender: Sneaker From: Sneaker To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002412 Subject: Linux on a TP600 Message-ID: <3877FDA5@www.twigger.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.60 List-Unsubscribe: Hi, Does anyone here have Linux (Redhat 6.1, Suse 6.X) installed and fully working on his TP600? I am a newbe to Linux so ... Also I have a Xircom Realport PCcard (100/10 Lan with V90 modem), how can i get this to work? Tnx :-) Tommy Volckaerts. "Fear ... , Fear attracks the Fearfull, the Strong, the Weak, " "the Innocent, the Corrupt. Fear, Fear is my Ally." "Fear is the path to the darkside." "Fear leads to anger , anger leads to hate." "Hate ... leads to suffering." From cph Tue Jan 18 06:29:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA07854 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 06:29:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00906; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 06:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 06:26:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00778; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 06:26:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.office.netlinq.nl (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00765; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 06:26:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.office.netlinq.nl (195.108.57.218 -> mx.office.netlinq.nl) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 06:26:27 -0500 Received: from netlinq.nl ([192.168.0.92]) by mx.office.netlinq.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA13944; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:24:33 +0100 Message-ID: <38844E50.17DCA2DF@netlinq.nl> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:28:16 +0100 From: Jeroen Elfferich Organization: http://www.netlinq.nl/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List CC: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: 390X vs 600X? References: <4.2.0.58.20000117195914.00a5b820@pop3.iceka1.com> <4.2.0.58.20000117204301.00a6c100@pop3.iceka1.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Randal Whittle wrote: > Alright then. Describe the features--other than what I already > pointed out above (and which have since been added into the 600 in current > models), that made the 600 inferior to the 770. You're right, there are not many additional differences. A few minor ones are: * Some 770 models (X and Z) come with 128 MB RAM standard, whereas the 600 comes with 64 MB max. This can be expanded of course. * The 770X and Z came with 8 MB VideoRAM vs. 4 on the 600. I don't think the extra 4 MB is used for anything, but it's a difference. The 770 also supports dual screen - a different image on your LCD and external monitor. This might also be possible with the 600X, but I haven't seen that yet. * Besides video capture and output, The enhanced video adapter also offers Dolby AC3 output. And hardware DVD-playback really is superior to software. * Larger harddisk options are available (up to 25 GB). * Better built-in speakers. * A slightly better keyboard IMHO. > Opinions differ, of course, but in my own opinion, a whopping 0.4" > diagonal size difference is entirely negligible, and the additional > resolution in that same space just makes things like icons tinier. High > res. without bigger physical size (and is 0.4" *really* "bigger"?) is > really a detriment. > > At any rate, its a fair point. The 770 did indeed have a larger, > and higher-res. screen. It just depends on whether the amount of > difference is worth consideration or not. I believe it is negligible, and > in some ways, even a step back. It just isn't physically big enough to do > a good job with the higher resolution. This is indeed a personal issue. Some people don't care or like the higher resolution, others will have a serious cold turkey having to go back to 1024*768. I'm one of the latter. All other features the 600 series lacks are compensated by the more attractive physique, but the screen is the reason I'm sticking to my 770X I'm using over a year now. The higher resolution really makes a big difference to me. The size is less relevant. I would opt for a 1600*1200 13.3" 600 if it would exist and simply choose bigger icons and text. The higher the resolution, the sharper the image and the easier it becomes to the eyes - more like print. I'm looking forward to the day the 300 dpi ultraportable arrives. Jeroen From cph Tue Jan 18 08:29:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA08156 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:29:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07378; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:28:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:25:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07108; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:25:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07094; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:25:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:25:53 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2ivebgq.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.46.26]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA32112 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:25:51 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: 390X vs 600X? (and the 770) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:26:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000117204301.00a6c100@pop3.iceka1.com> List-Unsubscribe: Randy, I totally disagree with you that the higher resolution screen of the 770 is a negligible difference. I have both an original 770 with a XGA screen and a newer 770Z with a SXGA screen. The difference in screens and, as a result, usability, is major. I would never go back to the lower res screen, so I am waiting anxiously to see what if anything IBM will offer. I expect that they have a new generation top-of-the-line ThinkPad in the works that will "raise the bar" for high-end laptops, but that it is waiting in the wings until Win'2000 and the newest processors are available. Remember that the introduction of top-of-the-line models from IBM have always trailed the other manufacturers to some extent. -Bill Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@iceka1.com] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 11:47 PM To: TP List Subject: RE: 390X vs 600X? At 08:22 PM 01/17/2000 -0800, you wrote: >The major difference between the 7XX and the 6XX series as far as I'm >concerned is the 13.7" SXGA display that I don't think I could live >without... Opinions differ, of course, but in my own opinion, a whopping 0.4" diagonal size difference is entirely negligible, and the additional resolution in that same space just makes things like icons tinier. High res. without bigger physical size (and is 0.4" *really* "bigger"?) is really a detriment. At any rate, its a fair point. The 770 did indeed have a larger, and higher-res. screen. It just depends on whether the amount of difference is worth consideration or not. I believe it is negligible, and in some ways, even a step back. It just isn't physically big enough to do a good job with the higher resolution. - Randy Whittle From cph Tue Jan 18 08:55:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA08323 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:55:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09215; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:53:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09104; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:53:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09091; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:53:45 -0500 Received: from user-37ka11s.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37ka11s.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.4.60]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA04430 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:53:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001181353.IAA04430@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:52:13 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <38844E50.17DCA2DF@netlinq.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Multiples List-Unsubscribe: Hello, A friendly request? Somehow I am getting multiple copies of the list's email. I get one from the list - and another cc'd or directly sent to my eddress along with the list copy. I think this got started during a squabble a while back, and folks quit using the list for some messages, and then the extra distribution remained. At any rate, all email from this list is directed to a folder. The extra copies sorta gum up the works and do take time when I am on the road. If you are sending email to the list, please delete me >from a cc as one copy is sufficient. If you want to send something directly to me, then by all means do so. Thanks. Allan Ballard From cph Tue Jan 18 08:59:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA08334 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:59:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09630; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:57:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09548; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:57:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09529; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:57:49 -0500 Received: from user-37ka11s.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37ka11s.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.4.60]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA08663 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:57:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001181357.IAA08663@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:56:17 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <38844E50.17DCA2DF@netlinq.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 390X vs 600X? vs 760x List-Unsubscribe: I gotta say that these newer units are *really* nice. But.....for my money, if the old 760CD or XD could receive a current processor and higher resolution, I would take it in a NY minute. Why? It is easy to travel with due to its small size. Allan Ballard On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:28:16 +0100, Jeroen Elfferich wrote: >Randal Whittle wrote: >> Alright then. Describe the features--other than what I already >> pointed out above (and which have since been added into the 600 in current >> models), that made the 600 inferior to the 770. > >You're right, there are not many additional differences. A few minor >ones are: >* Some 770 models (X and Z) come with 128 MB RAM standard, whereas the > 600 comes with 64 MB max. This can be expanded of course. >* The 770X and Z came with 8 MB VideoRAM vs. 4 on the 600. I don't think > the extra 4 MB is used for anything, but it's a difference. The 770 also > supports dual screen - a different image on your LCD and external monitor. > This might also be possible with the 600X, but I haven't seen that yet. >* Besides video capture and output, The enhanced video adapter also offers > Dolby AC3 output. And hardware DVD-playback really is superior to software. >* Larger harddisk options are available (up to 25 GB). >* Better built-in speakers. >* A slightly better keyboard IMHO. > >> Opinions differ, of course, but in my own opinion, a whopping 0.4" >> diagonal size difference is entirely negligible, and the additional >> resolution in that same space just makes things like icons tinier. High >> res. without bigger physical size (and is 0.4" *really* "bigger"?) is >> really a detriment. >> >> At any rate, its a fair point. The 770 did indeed have a larger, >> and higher-res. screen. It just depends on whether the amount of >> difference is worth consideration or not. I believe it is negligible, and >> in some ways, even a step back. It just isn't physically big enough to do >> a good job with the higher resolution. > >This is indeed a personal issue. Some people don't care or like the >higher resolution, others will have a serious cold turkey having to >go back to 1024*768. I'm one of the latter. All other features the 600 >series lacks are compensated by the more attractive physique, but the >screen is the reason I'm sticking to my 770X I'm using over a year now. >The higher resolution really makes a big difference to me. The size is >less relevant. I would opt for a 1600*1200 13.3" 600 if it would exist >and simply choose bigger icons and text. The higher the resolution, the >sharper the image and the easier it becomes to the eyes - more like >print. I'm looking forward to the day the 300 dpi ultraportable arrives. > >Jeroen From cph Tue Jan 18 09:47:36 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA08587 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:47:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13058; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:45:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:43:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12671; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12645; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:43:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (216.98.165.6) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:43:14 -0500 Received: by BIGRED with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:46:35 -0600 Message-ID: <195C527E2345D311A97C009027856AB8095B36@BIGRED> From: Greg Langham To: "'Randal Whittle'" , TP List Subject: RE: 390X vs 600X? Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:46:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I have a 770Z (9549-8AU) with the 13.7" screen and a 600e with the 13.3" screen. I agree the physical dimensions are virtually identical. However, when you set them side-by-side, the crispness of the 13.7" 1280x1024 screen absolutely blows away the 600's screen (which is good, don't get me wrong.) I run my 770 in large font mode, so I don't actually gain screen real estate. What I do gain is clarity and less eye fatigue. Saying all of this, I will say that the 600e is a great machine, and I prefer it in most aspects compared to the 770. It can do everything a 770 can in a much smaller footprint. However, there are three things they could do to a 600 that would be make it the ultimate machine: 1. Expand the footprint just enough to allow for the 13.7" 1280x1024 screen. We are talking 1/4 to 1/2 inch to do this. 2. Legs on the back of the machine like the 770 so I'm not typing on a "flat" keyboard surface when working on a desk. 3. An LCD power gauge. This is much better than something on my desktop telling me how much power I have left. My 2 cents FWIW. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@iceka1.com] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 10:47 PM To: TP List Subject: RE: 390X vs 600X? At 08:22 PM 01/17/2000 -0800, you wrote: >The major difference between the 7XX and the 6XX series as far as I'm >concerned is the 13.7" SXGA display that I don't think I could live >without... Opinions differ, of course, but in my own opinion, a whopping 0.4" diagonal size difference is entirely negligible, and the additional resolution in that same space just makes things like icons tinier. High res. without bigger physical size (and is 0.4" *really* "bigger"?) is really a detriment. At any rate, its a fair point. The 770 did indeed have a larger, and higher-res. screen. It just depends on whether the amount of difference is worth consideration or not. I believe it is negligible, and in some ways, even a step back. It just isn't physically big enough to do a good job with the higher resolution. - Randy Whittle From cph Tue Jan 18 11:01:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA08873 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:01:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18373; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:56:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18009; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:56:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17996; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:56:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (206.127.32.35 -> tam.dorsai.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:56:23 -0500 Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA09586 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:01:49 -0500 (EST) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA01793 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:01:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001181601.LAA01793@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: RE: Workpad z50 now $299 (fwd) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad list) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 100 11:01:41 -0500 (est) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > Question. Will the workpad run MSDOS programs or do the programs have to = > be written especially for Windows CE. Is there any market in programs = > for Windows CE. > > Stan Jacobs i think there are some Dos emulators for Win CE, but they're spotty. There's all kinds of tools written form Ce, however. Check www.cemonster.com from a pretty comprehensive list. And of course, the machine comes with stripped down versiones of Word, Excel, etc. I have one of these machines and love it, though I spent a lot more than $300. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph Tue Jan 18 11:23:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA08999 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:23:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20619; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:21:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:19:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20338; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:19:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20317; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:19:50 -0500 Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.77.224]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000118161942.ZBP5516@dts-jl> for ; 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Readers in other countries should contact >IBM locally for details. >____________________________________________________ From cph Tue Jan 18 12:09:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA09184 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:09:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24506; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:05:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24350; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:05:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24336; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:05:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.62 -> smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:05:07 -0500 Received: from r7a006661ax.hlb.cable.rcn.com ([209.122.66.230] helo=ppro) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12Ac3s-0006q7-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:04:57 -0500 Received: by ppro (VPOP3) with SMTP; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:04:07 -0500 Message-ID: <002401bf61d6$036fd6e0$0d00a8c0@dec5200> From: "R Briganti" To: "Thinkpad list" References: <200001181601.LAA01793@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Re: Workpad z50 now $299 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:03:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0b - Registered to: Belle Mead Claims List-Unsubscribe: For all the bargain seekers (and any other CE users): I don't know which version comes with the z50 but I suggest you make sure you have Active Sync 3.0 to synchronize the z50 and your desktop. It is a free download from Microsoft. The previous version (with a different name) was a horror, especially with NT. Bob From cph Tue Jan 18 12:20:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA09263 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:20:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25468; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:14:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:14:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25374; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:14:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25361; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:14:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93 -> uhura.concentric.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:14:28 -0500 Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id MAA00396; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:14:26 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from RJWLaptop1 (w066.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.66]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id MAA23934; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:14:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000118081152.009f3420@pop3.iceka1.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka1.com@pop3.iceka1.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:29:18 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: 770 vs 600X? In-Reply-To: <38844E50.17DCA2DF@netlinq.nl> References: <4.2.0.58.20000117195914.00a5b820@pop3.iceka1.com> <4.2.0.58.20000117204301.00a6c100@pop3.iceka1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 12:28 PM 01/18/2000 +0100, you wrote: >Randal Whittle wrote: > > Alright then. Describe the features--other than what I already > > pointed out above (and which have since been added into the 600 in current > > models), that made the 600 inferior to the 770. > >You're right, there are not many additional differences. A few minor >ones are: >* Some 770 models (X and Z) come with 128 MB RAM standard, whereas the > 600 comes with 64 MB max. This can be expanded of course. ...thus making that item irrelevant! >* The 770X and Z came with 8 MB VideoRAM vs. 4 on the 600. I don't think > the extra 4 MB is used for anything, but it's a difference. ...and if its not used for anything, then that difference is irrelevant. >The 770 also > supports dual screen - a different image on your LCD and external monitor. > This might also be possible with the 600X, but I haven't seen that yet. Ahh, now this, if it is indeed the case, would be a difference. Score for you on this one. >* Besides video capture and output, The enhanced video adapter also offers > Dolby AC3 output. And hardware DVD-playback really is superior to software. Hasn't this stuff been added into the 600 in current models? If not...isn't a P-III quite capable of doing DVD playback just fine without specialized hardware? >* Larger harddisk options are available (up to 25 GB). A GB here, a GB there...pretty soon it all adds up to real HD space. ;-) I'll say this is almost irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that the thin drives come in up to 18 GB sizes. This ought to be enough for virtually all but the hardest core weirdos. >* Better built-in speakers. I have yet to see any laptop speakers that are worth damn. Saying the 770's are better than the 600's is rather like saying your AMC Pacer is better than my Ford Pinto. They both suck. >* A slightly better keyboard IMHO. Opinion, of course. I haven't used a 770's keyboard, so its hard for me to say. My first ThinkPad was a 750C and I thought it had the best (and loudest) keyboard ever. Though I should say that of all the notebooks I've owned since, the 600 has come the closest--and perhaps is equal to. > > Opinions differ, of course, but in my own opinion, a whopping 0.4" > > diagonal size difference is entirely negligible, and the additional > > resolution in that same space just makes things like icons tinier. High > > res. without bigger physical size (and is 0.4" *really* "bigger"?) is > > really a detriment. > > > > At any rate, its a fair point. The 770 did indeed have a larger, > > and higher-res. screen. It just depends on whether the amount of > > difference is worth consideration or not. I believe it is negligible, and > > in some ways, even a step back. It just isn't physically big enough to do > > a good job with the higher resolution. > >This is indeed a personal issue. Some people don't care or like the >higher resolution, others will have a serious cold turkey having to >go back to 1024*768. I'm one of the latter. All other features the 600 >series lacks are compensated by the more attractive physique, but the >and simply choose bigger icons and text. Which, for someone like me, more than makes up for any minor shortcomings. I actually have to travel with the thing--carry it. If someone wants to use their 770 just because they don't have room for a "real" desktop and they don't really intend to carry it around, then more power to them. But to me, a laptop is made to be portable, so it had better actually *be* portable. Otherwise we might as well go back to lugging Kaypros around. > The higher the resolution, the >sharper the image and the easier it becomes to the eyes - more like >print. This really isn't entirely true. Yes, if higher resolution makes up for everything, it would be great. But the fact is that its no panacea. I use 1600x1200 on my desktop machine with regularity. But I'm also using a 21" monitor. Even then, the text (under icons & etc) tends to be too small, so I have to pump up the size of icons & etc. But then that messes with dialog boxes when the box is designed to be a certain size and you increased the text size to make it readable, so everything gets rather screwed up. As to sharpness? Nope. Not really. Dot pitch and dot *size* dictates that more than the number of dots. Higher resolution mainly just means you can get more on the screen, not that any of it is particularly sharper. My 1600x1200 resolution on the desktop isn't particularly "sharper" than all but the lowest resolutions, but it definitely provides more real estate. Its like looking at a photo negative with a loupe--is it "sharper" when you pull back, or is there just more of the photo to look at? So in my opinion, the additional res of the 770 doesn't make anything particularly sharper, but rather just increases the screen real estate, but to a negligible degree (again, my opinion). - Randy Whittle From cph Tue Jan 18 13:00:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA09459 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:00:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00128; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:57:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00044; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00030; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:57:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (207.0.68.7 -> home.dwave.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:57:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA28276 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:00:43 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:00:42 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 390X vs 600X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Well, all this discussion is interesting, but not very helpful. Does anyone out there have a 390, X or not? I expect the physical features to be similar to each other. Chris Schumann "Wait a minute, Joe. If what you're saying is true, then I still don't care." - Dave Nelson, News Radio From cph Tue Jan 18 13:17:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA09591 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:17:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01999; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:15:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:14:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01843; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:14:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01826; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:14:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.132 -> dh-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:14:12 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id NAA21798 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:14:10 -0500 (EST) Sender: bbender@compuserve.com Received: from brianbnt5 (isdn242.vocollect.com [209.166.154.242]) by hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with SMTP id NAA21717; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:14:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian Bender" To: "'Sneaker'" , "'Thinkpads list'" Subject: RE: Linux on a TP600 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:12:02 -0500 Message-ID: <00a501bf61df$85d31df0$59051fac@brianbnt5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3877FDA5@www.twigger.be> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Yup, I have an all Slackware 7.0 + 2.2.14 kernel 5GB drive that goes in my PII-300 TP600. Not a 'bit' of MS software on it . Got any specific questions yet? - Brian Bender TP600: PII-300, 224MB RAM, 10GB (NT5) HDD / 5GB (Slack7) HDD > -----Original Message----- > From: Sneaker [mailto:Tommy.Volckaerts@Advalvas.be] > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 2:23 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Linux on a TP600 > > > > Hi, > > Does anyone here have Linux (Redhat 6.1, Suse 6.X) installed > and fully working > on his TP600? > > I am a newbe to Linux so ... > Also I have a Xircom Realport PCcard (100/10 Lan with V90 > modem), how can i > get this to work? > > Tnx > > :-) > > Tommy Volckaerts. > > "Fear ... , Fear attracks the Fearfull, the Strong, the Weak, " > "the Innocent, the Corrupt. Fear, Fear is my Ally." > > "Fear is the path to the darkside." > "Fear leads to anger , anger leads to hate." > "Hate ... leads to suffering." > > From cph Tue Jan 18 17:51:24 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA11489 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:51:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26845; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:49:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:46:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26507; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:46:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26494; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.30 -> cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:46:48 -0500 Received: from default - 63.22.251.34 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:46:42 -0800 Message-ID: <009801bf6204$ddada840$22fb163f@default> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Think" Subject: 560 parts needed Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:39:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Looking for the following items for my 560. 1. The over for the floppy drive port. 2. Left mouse clicker on keyboard. 3. 12.1 TFT display. Thanks! Brad From cph Tue Jan 18 18:27:17 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA11704 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:27:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29142; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:25:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:25:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29062; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:25:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29048; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:25:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:25:22 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.67.18.116]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000118232519.HQAW5516@701c> for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:25:19 +0000 Message-ID: <000201bf620b$426c0140$7412430c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Thinkpad 730T and unix Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:19:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: The 730T will run linux. The 730T will not run linux. Confused?. Bewildered?. The 730T, A pen based computer will run linux, in the field kit, connected to a keyboard. However linux has no support for the pen. The 730T came with a 105 Mb hard drive standard. This is tight, as far as linux goes. Might I suggest. Windows 3.1 for workgroups I.E 4.XX and perhaps Opera. This combo works great for surfing the web. It will also run Win 95, but there is not much room left. Have fun. From cph Tue Jan 18 18:44:04 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA11801 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:44:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00485; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:42:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:42:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00405; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00392; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.42 -> mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:42:07 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.67.18.116]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000118234203.QHQW1891@701c> for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:42:03 +0000 Message-ID: <001301bf620d$99112dc0$7412430c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Workpad Z50 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:41:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. Could someone kindy direct me to where I can get The IBM Z50 for $299. I have not found the listing. Thank you From cph Tue Jan 18 18:56:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA11872 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:56:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01554; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:52:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01427; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:52:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.advi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01408; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:52:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.advi.net (208.139.144.3 -> mail.advi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:52:24 -0500 Received: from ecamin (s13354063.advi.net [208.133.54.63]) by mail.advi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA16450 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:54:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002001bf620f$0ed477a0$3f3685d0@ecamin> From: "Edwin A Camin" To: References: <384DFBE8.8B3366BF@treco.net> Subject: Need a TP701 adapter for Dock 2 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:52:17 -0500 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know where I can obtain a adapter for the TP701 for docking to the Dock II? I've been checking EBAY with no success. Ed From cph Tue Jan 18 18:57:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA11880 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:57:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01917; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:55:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01840; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:55:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01826; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:55:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.62 -> smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:55:01 -0500 Received: from r7a006661ax.hlb.cable.rcn.com ([209.122.66.230] helo=ppro) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12AiSf-0001qU-00; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:54:57 -0500 Received: by ppro (VPOP3) with SMTP; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:50:18 -0500 Message-ID: <01ac01bf620e$c21b5aa0$0d00a8c0@dec5200> From: "R Briganti" To: "rudolph wratten" , References: <001301bf620d$99112dc0$7412430c@701c> Subject: Re: Workpad Z50 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:50:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0b - Registered to: Belle Mead Claims List-Unsubscribe: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=201666 I ordered another on Monday. They now show a 2 week delay in shipping. Search www.killerapp.com for other vendors in the same price range. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rudolph wratten" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 18:41 Subject: Workpad Z50 > Hello. > > Could someone kindy direct me to where I can get > The IBM Z50 for $299. > I have not found the listing. > > Thank you > > From cph Tue Jan 18 19:40:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA12138 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:40:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04668; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:38:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:37:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04562; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:37:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04549; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.140 -> ds-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:37:48 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.2) id TAA24383 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:36:35 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (sfr-tgn-sfs-vty1.as.wcom.net [216.192.38.1]) by spdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.2) with SMTP id TAA24320 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:36:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001190036.TAA24320@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "TP List" Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:32:20 -0800 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: 390X vs 600X? List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:47:15 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > At any rate, its a fair point. The 770 did indeed >have a larger, and higher-res. screen. It just depends on >whether the amount of difference is worth consideration or >not. I believe it is negligible, and in some ways, even a >step back. It just isn't physically big enough to do >a good job with the higher resolution. Well, what I really want is the ability to drive an external monitor at 1280x or 1440x or even 1600x. I'll live with the smaller LCD screen (in fact on a plane it's a major benefit for me; the 13.3" can even be too big depending on the seating), but why in the world don't the new 600s have more video RAM and high external resolution? I understand the Dells do. andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/LongBeachCA.html From cph Tue Jan 18 19:56:24 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA12227 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:56:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06021; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:49:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:49:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05908; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:49:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05893; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:49:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (216.254.0.2 -> grace.speakeasy.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:49:22 -0500 Received: from 770z (1Cust201.tnt1.miami.fl.da.uu.net [63.24.89.201]) by grace.speakeasy.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA09872; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:49:16 -0800 From: "Richard Chalk" To: "Andrew Webber" , "TP List" Subject: RE: 390X vs 600X? Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:49:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200001190036.TAA24320@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> List-Unsubscribe: The 770X and Z with the 1280 x 1024 screen are, I believe, the only ones with 8 meg Video RAM. This is especially important if you want to drive an external monitor at higher resolutions, and still get more than 256 colors. FWIW, I went from a 1024 x 768 770 to the 1280 x 1024, and I love it. Sitting close, the pixels are much less apparent to the eye, and the images are gorgeous. You should see a good DVD playback!!! Richard -----Original Message----- From: awebber@sgml-mercs.com [mailto:awebber@sgml-mercs.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 7:32 PM To: TP List Subject: RE: 390X vs 600X? On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:47:15 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > At any rate, its a fair point. The 770 did indeed >have a larger, and higher-res. screen. It just depends on >whether the amount of difference is worth consideration or >not. I believe it is negligible, and in some ways, even a >step back. It just isn't physically big enough to do >a good job with the higher resolution. Well, what I really want is the ability to drive an external monitor at 1280x or 1440x or even 1600x. I'll live with the smaller LCD screen (in fact on a plane it's a major benefit for me; the 13.3" can even be too big depending on the seating), but why in the world don't the new 600s have more video RAM and high external resolution? I understand the Dells do. andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/LongBeachCA.html From cph Tue Jan 18 20:12:12 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA12298 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:12:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07606; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:10:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:09:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07466; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:09:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07453; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:09:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.50 -> avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:09:42 -0500 Received: from miles (ip28.eagle.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.160.28]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA23340; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:09:38 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: "rudolph wratten" , Subject: RE: Thinkpad 730T and unix Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:09:39 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-reply-to: <000201bf620b$426c0140$7412430c@701c> List-Unsubscribe: Ah, but isn't WFW (or, more accurately, DOS v. X.XX) non-Y2K compliant? dn > -----Original Message----- > From: rudolph wratten [mailto:cowthief@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 3:20 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Thinkpad 730T and unix > > > The 730T will run linux. > The 730T will not run linux. > > Confused?. Bewildered?. > The 730T, A pen based computer will run linux, > in the field kit, connected to a keyboard. > However linux has no support for the pen. > The 730T came with a 105 Mb hard drive standard. > This is tight, as far as linux goes. Might I suggest. > Windows 3.1 for workgroups I.E 4.XX and perhaps Opera. > This combo works great for surfing the web. > It will also run Win 95, but there is not much room left. > > Have fun. > > From cph Tue Jan 18 20:19:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA12334 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:19:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08166; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:17:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:17:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08092; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:17:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08079; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:17:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:17:39 -0500 Received: from user-37ka11s.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37ka11s.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.4.60]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA28784 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:17:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001190117.UAA28784@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:16:06 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Thinkpad 730T and unix List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:09:39 -0800, David Newman wrote: > >Ah, but isn't WFW (or, more accurately, DOS v. X.XX) non-Y2K compliant? I just booted back to DOS 6.22, and it shows the date using a four digit year. Win 3.1 shows 00 for the year. I think there is a patch for that. Allan Ballard > >dn > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rudolph wratten [mailto:cowthief@worldnet.att.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 3:20 PM >> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >> Subject: Thinkpad 730T and unix >> >> >> The 730T will run linux. >> The 730T will not run linux. >> >> Confused?. Bewildered?. >> The 730T, A pen based computer will run linux, >> in the field kit, connected to a keyboard. >> However linux has no support for the pen. >> The 730T came with a 105 Mb hard drive standard. >> This is tight, as far as linux goes. Might I suggest. >> Windows 3.1 for workgroups I.E 4.XX and perhaps Opera. >> This combo works great for surfing the web. >> It will also run Win 95, but there is not much room left. >> >> Have fun. >> >> From cph Tue Jan 18 21:31:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA12771 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:31:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12325; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:26:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:25:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12143; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:25:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot009.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12125; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot009.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.109 -> pilot009.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:25:11 -0500 Received: from andres (andres-53.user.msu.edu [35.10.64.80]) by pilot009.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA25584 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:25:02 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000118211753.00ad23d0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:17:53 -0500 To: From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: RE: Thinkpad 730T and unix In-Reply-To: <200001190117.UAA28784@smtp6.mindspring.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: You can make a Windows 3.x system y2k compliant; all it takes is grunging around the MS site to find the proper patches to apply. You can do it though, if you want to. As far as Linux goes, I'm not an expert on it but I'm sure there are things you could take out of the distribution such that you could live in that 105M disk and do things. Probably not web browsing, but you could still do lots of things with it. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 08:16 PM 1/18/2000 -0500, Allan Ballard wrote: >On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:09:39 -0800, David Newman wrote: > >> >>Ah, but isn't WFW (or, more accurately, DOS v. X.XX) non-Y2K compliant? > >I just booted back to DOS 6.22, and it shows the date using >a four digit year. > >Win 3.1 shows 00 for the year. I think there is a patch for that. > >Allan Ballard > >> >>dn >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: rudolph wratten [mailto:cowthief@worldnet.att.net] >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 3:20 PM >>> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >>> Subject: Thinkpad 730T and unix >>> >>> >>> The 730T will run linux. >>> The 730T will not run linux. >>> >>> Confused?. Bewildered?. >>> The 730T, A pen based computer will run linux, >>> in the field kit, connected to a keyboard. >>> However linux has no support for the pen. >>> The 730T came with a 105 Mb hard drive standard. >>> This is tight, as far as linux goes. Might I suggest. >>> Windows 3.1 for workgroups I.E 4.XX and perhaps Opera. >>> This combo works great for surfing the web. >>> It will also run Win 95, but there is not much room left. >>> >>> Have fun. >>> >>> > > > > From cph Tue Jan 18 21:43:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA12837 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:43:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14261; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:36:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13881; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:36:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13866; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:36:33 -0500 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA13775; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:35:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:35:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" To: "STeve Andre'" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Thinkpad 730T and unix In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000118211753.00ad23d0@pilot.msu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: If you're not worried about pen compatibility, an older copy of one of the major distributions will fit quite handily on 105 Mb., and you'll even have room for Netscape. Try Red Hat 4.2 or an early 3.x Slackware series. I installed my first version of Linux on two 20 Mb. MFM drives; 105 Mb. can seem quite roomy sometimes. ;-) -Ken On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, STeve Andre' wrote: > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:17:53 -0500 > From: STeve Andre' > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: RE: Thinkpad 730T and unix > > You can make a Windows 3.x system y2k compliant; all it takes is grunging > around the MS site to find the proper patches to apply. You can do it > though, if you want to. > > As far as Linux goes, I'm not an expert on it but I'm sure there are things > you could take out of the distribution such that you could live in that 105M > disk and do things. Probably not web browsing, but you could still do lots > of things with it. > > --STeve Andre' > andres@msu.edu > > At 08:16 PM 1/18/2000 -0500, Allan Ballard wrote: > >On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:09:39 -0800, David Newman wrote: > > > >> > >>Ah, but isn't WFW (or, more accurately, DOS v. X.XX) non-Y2K compliant? > > > >I just booted back to DOS 6.22, and it shows the date using > >a four digit year. > > > >Win 3.1 shows 00 for the year. I think there is a patch for that. > > > >Allan Ballard > > > >> > >>dn > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: rudolph wratten [mailto:cowthief@worldnet.att.net] > >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 3:20 PM > >>> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > >>> Subject: Thinkpad 730T and unix > >>> > >>> > >>> The 730T will run linux. > >>> The 730T will not run linux. > >>> > >>> Confused?. Bewildered?. > >>> The 730T, A pen based computer will run linux, > >>> in the field kit, connected to a keyboard. > >>> However linux has no support for the pen. > >>> The 730T came with a 105 Mb hard drive standard. > >>> This is tight, as far as linux goes. Might I suggest. > >>> Windows 3.1 for workgroups I.E 4.XX and perhaps Opera. > >>> This combo works great for surfing the web. > >>> It will also run Win 95, but there is not much room left. > >>> > >>> Have fun. > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > From cph Tue Jan 18 23:25:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA13196 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:25:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19847; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:21:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19731; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:21:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19718; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:21:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (24.137.12.3) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:21:52 -0500 Received: from TP760 (24.137.23.34) by orion.planetcable.net (Worldmail 1.3.167) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; 18 Jan 2000 23:18:54 -0500 Message-ID: <000001bf6237$656367c0$22178918@TP760.TECHGAP.NET> From: "Slip" To: Subject: [760ED]Modem not responding after suspend Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:37:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hi there, I'm having a bit of trouble with my modem in this system. Every time I come out of a suspend, the modem does not respond and I have to reboot. Is this a well-known problem with the 760(seem to remember hearing the list discuss it)? Any work-arounds or fixes? I'm running Win98 SE on it. Thanks! -Jamie From cph Wed Jan 19 01:15:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA13556 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:15:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24658; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:06:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:05:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24582; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:05:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24569; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (140.142.76.8 -> jason02.u.washington.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:05:38 -0500 Received: from dante14.u.washington.edu (williams@dante14.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.24]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA22330 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:05:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante14.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA96188 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:05:36 -0800 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:05:35 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Williams" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM customers buy $1 laptops in site snafu (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Looks like we missed out! I did try to get a few of the AccessMicro one cent Thinkpad 600s last year though. No luck. John __________________________________________ IBM customers buy $1 laptops in site snafu By Troy Wolverton January 18, 2000, 3:40 p.m. PT http://home.cnet.com/category/0-1007-200-1525926.html Some IBM customers took advantage of a too-good-to-be-true deal on the computer maker's Web site today, ordering dozens of the company's laptops for $1 each. For about an hour this morning, IBM's Web store listed two different versions of its ThinkPad i Series 1400 computer for $1 each, a company representative confirmed. The machines typically sell for between $1,300 and $2,300. IBM blamed the discrepancy on a data error and said it has begun notifying customers that it can't honor the discounted price. "We can't sell these for a dollar," a company representative said. "We'll work something out with our customers." The pricing error at IBM comes one month after online luxury goods store Ashford.com offered Gucci and several other chichi watches for free, because of a pricing error on its own site. Last year, a plague of pricing errors hit Buy.com, ShopNow.com's BuySoftware site and Onsale. The IBM representative said the company did not know how many customers placed orders for the $1 laptops. But John Sutcliffe, a software development consultant from Stillwater, Minn., said he and five other people in his office each ordered four of them. Sutcliffe said he has not heard from IBM since receiving an order confirmation from the company earlier today. The IBM representative said the pricing error had to do with the "data feed" into its Web store, but he was not able to give further details. He said the company is apologizing to customers who placed the orders and possibly would offer them a discounted price. "We're still trying to work all that out," the representative said. ------------------------------------------------------- From cph Wed Jan 19 04:33:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA14000 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:33:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05661; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:30:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:28:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05381; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05368; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:28:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.50 -> avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:28:04 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer (dialup-209.246.105.54.NewYork2.Level3.net [209.246.105.54]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA27978 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:28:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <004f01bf6278$ae9bb1e0$3669f6d1@oemcomputer> From: "Grace Nall" To: References: <200001181601.LAA01793@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Workpad z50 now $279 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:28:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: FYI, www.pcmall.com has bested CDW's price. They have a little over 200 units in stock with a one-day shipping delay for $279 apiece. GN From cph Wed Jan 19 04:58:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA14033 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:58:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07064; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:55:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06840; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:55:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06826; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:55:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (171.64.14.23 -> smtp.Stanford.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:55:27 -0500 Received: from stanford.edu (banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.66.3.116]) by smtp.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/L) with ESMTP id BAA04207 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:55:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38858A0A.93F0039E@stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:55:22 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Workpad z50 now $279 - now it's $265.65! References: <200001181601.LAA01793@amanda.dorsai.org> <004f01bf6278$ae9bb1e0$3669f6d1@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: eCost.com has the z50 listed for $265.65, in stock, with free shipping. Too bad if you're located in CA - so are they. Benjamin From cph Wed Jan 19 09:27:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA14942 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:27:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27953; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:22:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27637; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:22:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacs04.infoave.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27624; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:22:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacs04.infoave.net (165.166.0.14 -> pacs04.InfoAve.Net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:22:44 -0500 Received: from dial-44.r7.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net ("port 1090"@[207.144.129.244]) by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) with SMTP id <01JKVTQDIW6SA166FM@InfoAve.Net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:21:28 EST Received: by dial-44.r7.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net with Microsoft Mail id <01BF625E.BFBF5AE0@dial-44.r7.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net>; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:22:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 08:36:14 -0500 From: Stan Jacobs Subject: RE: Thinkpad 730T and unix To: thinkpadcsutkedu Message-id: <01BF625E.BFBF5AE0@dial-44.r7.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: No you go into control panel and select International and select change under date and change it to show a four digit year, Stan Jacobs ---------- From: Allan Ballard[SMTP:aballard@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 3:16 PM To: thinkpadcsutkedu Subject: RE: Thinkpad 730T and unix On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:09:39 -0800, David Newman wrote: > >Ah, but isn't WFW (or, more accurately, DOS v. X.XX) non-Y2K compliant? I just booted back to DOS 6.22, and it shows the date using a four digit year. Win 3.1 shows 00 for the year. I think there is a patch for that. Allan Ballard > >dn > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rudolph wratten [mailto:cowthief@worldnet.att.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 3:20 PM >> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >> Subject: Thinkpad 730T and unix >> >> >> The 730T will run linux. >> The 730T will not run linux. >> >> Confused?. Bewildered?. >> The 730T, A pen based computer will run linux, >> in the field kit, connected to a keyboard. >> However linux has no support for the pen. >> The 730T came with a 105 Mb hard drive standard. >> This is tight, as far as linux goes. Might I suggest. >> Windows 3.1 for workgroups I.E 4.XX and perhaps Opera. >> This combo works great for surfing the web. >> It will also run Win 95, but there is not much room left. >> >> Have fun. >> >> From cph Wed Jan 19 10:37:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA15230 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:37:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04069; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:35:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:33:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03669; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03654; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (129.59.1.212 -> mailer2.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:33:40 -0500 Received: from lruby (A061018.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.61.18]) by mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/VU-3.0.2) with SMTP id JAA21937; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:33:37 -0600 (CST) From: "Ruby Lestari" To: "Slip" , Subject: RE: [760ED]Modem not responding after suspend Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:28:13 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001bf6237$656367c0$22178918@TP760.TECHGAP.NET> List-Unsubscribe: I have even worse problem. My modem doesn't work at all since I install Win 98 into My ThinkPad 760ED. Anyone willing to help me out. Thank You. In Dharma, Ruby Lestari Department of Mechanical Engineering School of Engineering - Vanderbilt University --------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Slip [mailto:slipnfall@waconet.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 10:38 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [760ED]Modem not responding after suspend Hi there, I'm having a bit of trouble with my modem in this system. Every time I come out of a suspend, the modem does not respond and I have to reboot. Is this a well-known problem with the 760(seem to remember hearing the list discuss it)? Any work-arounds or fixes? I'm running Win98 SE on it. Thanks! -Jamie From cph Wed Jan 19 13:40:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA16611 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:40:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21841; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:39:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:39:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21744; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21734; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:39:13 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.70 -> imo26.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:39:13 -0500 Received: from TAUBELS@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id o.6b.da7d7e (3992) for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:39:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6b.da7d7e.25b75ecb@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:39:07 EST Subject: Unsubscribe To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: Please remove my e-mail address from the thinkpad talk group. Thanks for all the information. From cph Wed Jan 19 13:41:04 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA16616 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:41:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21667; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:37:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21497; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21482; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:37:29 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-501.gate.net [199.227.173.247]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07562 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:37:25 -0500 Message-ID: <38860479.2960CCED@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:37:45 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: Workpad z50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: and I have them for $279 i did not want to say this, but i suppose with all the other sources i would be foolinh NOT to chime in.. :-) my guess is either IBM did not sell many of these and that they a discontinuing the model, or that there is a new model coming out with a TFT display or something else, nice.. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Wed Jan 19 14:14:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA16963 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:14:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25532; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:12:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25414; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:12:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25404; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:12:43 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.71 -> imo27.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:12:43 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id o.17.b79671 (4565) for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:12:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <17.b79671.25b766a7@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:12:39 EST Subject: 770X BIOS Upgrade problem To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: The new BIOS upgrade for the 770X (spsdii40 - iiet40ww, released 1/13) is incompatible with Norton SystemWorks NAV 6.0 and Disk Doctor. Does anyone know of a fix or work around. When I reinstalled the previous BIOS (spsdii38 - iiet38ww), the problems vanished. Anyone had similar problems and found a fix? John From cph Wed Jan 19 14:33:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA17214 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:33:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27343; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:32:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27239; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27212; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:32:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (147.225.51.39 -> mosquito.ny.ans.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:32:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (bkomar@localhost) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA25951; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:31:57 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mosquito.ny.ans.net: bkomar owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:31:57 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: TAUBELS@aol.com cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <6b.da7d7e.25b75ecb@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 TAUBELS@aol.com wrote: > Please remove my e-mail address from the thinkpad talk group. Thanks for all > the information. > In order to List-Unsubscribe: mailto:thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Subject=unsubscribe Have a nice day, Bruce Komar From cph Wed Jan 19 15:44:50 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA17820 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:44:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04701; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:43:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:42:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04614; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04587; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU (156.26.1.1 -> WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:42:22 -0500 Received: from WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU by WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3148) id <01JKW4XNSC0G8WXH4Q@WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:41:54 CST Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:41:54 -0600 (CST) From: Jon Subject: Re: Workpad z50 In-reply-to: <38860479.2960CCED@icanect.net> To: Bill Morrow Cc: ThinkPad List Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: darn it !! I just ordered one from www.ecost.com the listed price is $265 + free shipping but BEware, upon the final screeen, there is this miraculous $9.99 ( or $9 i cant remember) Handling Fee !! So overall they give you free shipping but they throw in the handling fee. go figure On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Bill Morrow wrote: > and I have them for $279 > > i did not want to say this, but i suppose with all the other sources i > would be foolinh NOT to chime in.. :-) > > my guess is either IBM did not sell many of these and that they a > discontinuing the model, > or that there is a new model coming out with a TFT display or something > else, nice.. > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > > From cph Wed Jan 19 16:50:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA18499 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:50:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10789; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:49:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:48:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10596; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10581; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (204.112.54.11 -> access.mbnet.mb.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:48:13 -0500 Received: from CORUSCANT (24.66.41.126.mb.wave.home.com [24.66.41.126]) by access.mbnet.mb.ca (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA26259 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:48:07 -0600 (CST) Received: by CORUSCANT with Microsoft Mail id <01BF6293.FE969820@CORUSCANT>; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:43:56 -0600 Message-ID: <01BF6293.FE969820@CORUSCANT> From: Jason Savage To: "Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Workpad z50 now $279 - now it's $265.65! Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:43:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id QAA18500 Yes, it's cheap but did you know that IBM is appears to be dropping the line. The z50 link on their home page leads "Sorry the page is moved" The WorkPad products page has no mention of it. And the distributors are listing it as discontinued and phased out. It sounds like IBM decided to give CE the old heave-how and stick it out with PalmOS. Jason Savage -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Koh [SMTP:benkoh@stanford.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 3:55 AM Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Workpad z50 now $279 - now it's $265.65! eCost.com has the z50 listed for $265.65, in stock, with free shipping. Too bad if you're located in CA - so are they. Benjamin From cph Wed Jan 19 17:07:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA18623 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:07:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12734; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:05:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12630; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12613; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.62 -> smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:05:35 -0500 Received: from r7a006661ax.hlb.cable.rcn.com ([209.122.66.230] helo=ppro) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12B3Dl-0006FX-00; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:04:57 -0500 Received: by ppro (VPOP3) with SMTP; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:03:54 -0500 Message-ID: <055001bf62c9$0ee991c0$0d00a8c0@dec5200> From: "R Briganti" To: "Jason Savage" , "Thinkpad Maillist \(E-mail\)" References: <01BF6293.FE969820@CORUSCANT> Subject: Re: Workpad z50 now $279 - now it's $265.65! Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:03:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0b - Registered to: Belle Mead Claims List-Unsubscribe: The fact that they're dropping the line would bother me if I paid $999 but not at the $299 or less price. All the more reason to get one before they're gone. > Yes, it's cheap but did you know that IBM is appears to be dropping the line. The z50 link on their home page leads "Sorry the page is moved" The WorkPad products page has no mention of it. And the distributors are listing it as discontinued and phased out. It sounds like IBM decided to give CE the old heave-how and stick it out with PalmOS. From cph Wed Jan 19 17:45:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA19058 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:45:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15348; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:37:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15262; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:37:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15249; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:37:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (171.64.14.23 -> smtp.Stanford.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:37:18 -0500 Received: from stanford.edu (banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.66.3.116]) by smtp.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21845 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:37:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38863C99.7DB60C43@stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:37:13 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Workpad z50 now $279 - now it's $265.65! References: <01BF6293.FE969820@CORUSCANT> <055001bf62c9$0ee991c0$0d00a8c0@dec5200> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I agree on this sentiment. Whether a product is supported or not does not affect its inherent functionality, only its future usability. I purchased my long-discontinued Zaurus 3500X on this reasoning, and have never regretted it. Sharp has no support for it, but I don't need any because the tools it came with do the job I want - PIM, calendar etc. I'm still happily using the same (outdated) software. On a separate note: the Zaurus is Y2K compliant :-) Benjamin R Briganti wrote: > > The fact that they're dropping the line would bother me if I paid $999 but > not at the $299 or less price. All the more reason to get one before > they're gone. > From cph Wed Jan 19 17:45:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA19062 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:45:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15951; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:43:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15841; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:43:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15825; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:43:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (24.2.9.68 -> ha1.rdc3.on.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:43:16 -0500 Received: from 452366-a ([24.114.126.73]) by mail.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP id <20000119224059.IIGZ13671.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a>; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:40:59 -0800 From: "Tom Trottier" To: "David Newman" , "rudolph wratten" , Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:32:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Thinkpad 730T and unix Reply-to: TomATrottier@home.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <000201bf620b$426c0140$7412430c@701c> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-Id: <20000119224059.IIGZ13671.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> List-Unsubscribe: MS has an update in their support website for WFW which makes it Y2K compliant. It differs from the 3.1 update. Tom On 18 Jan 00, at 20:09, David Newman spoke about *RE: Thinkpad 730T and unix..* saying > > Ah, but isn't WFW (or, more accurately, DOS v. X.XX) non-Y2K > compliant? > > dn > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rudolph wratten [mailto:cowthief@worldnet.att.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 3:20 PM > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Thinkpad 730T and unix > > > > > > The 730T will run linux. > > The 730T will not run linux. > > > > Confused?. Bewildered?. > > The 730T, A pen based computer will run linux, > > in the field kit, connected to a keyboard. > > However linux has no support for the pen. > > The 730T came with a 105 Mb hard drive standard. > > This is tight, as far as linux goes. Might I suggest. > > Windows 3.1 for workgroups I.E 4.XX and perhaps Opera. > > This combo works great for surfing the web. > > It will also run Win 95, but there is not much room left. ------------------------- And a happy New Millenium to you and yours.PLEASE NOTE MY NEW eMAIL ADDRESS! From:Tom Trottier, 400 Slater St. Suite 415, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 __o ICQ:57647974 _ \< Voice: +1 613 291-1168 fax: 594-5412 No ads or spam, please (*)/'(*) Vote for your favourite Olympus camera at http://www.freevote.com/booth/fav_camera From cph Wed Jan 19 19:08:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA19991 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:08:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20851; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:06:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:05:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20666; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20653; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (171.64.14.23 -> smtp.Stanford.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:05:52 -0500 Received: from stanford.edu (banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.66.3.116]) by smtp.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27621 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:05:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3886515C.A1ED6906@stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:05:48 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Extended warranties for refurbed machines - don't buy them! References: <38860479.2960CCED@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Just a little note to those of us who have bought refurbished machines and are considering the purchase of extended warranties - don't. I just got off the phone with the acting manager of the customer service department, and confirmed that the warranty repair centre will *not* honor extended warranties on refurbished machines. However, the sales department doesn't know this, and will gladly sell you a ServicePac for $99/year, and will also insist that you are buying the right product. I bought a ServicePac for my 560X last September, and have been trying to activate it ever since, only to be told "the computer won't accept it" and "that's exactly what I would sell you if you didn't already have it" and "leave a message and we'll get back to you". In all fairness the acting manager did the best she could, but because it's been more than 30days (IBM's cast-in-stone return policy) I can't get all my money back. This concludes a 4 month battle with answering machines, misinformed salesmen and helpless computer operators at IBM. So learn from my mistake - if it doesn't work out of the box, return it. Don't fight it. Poorer, Benjamin From cph Wed Jan 19 20:25:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA20466 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:25:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25513; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:24:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:24:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25359; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:24:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25346; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246 -> smtp10.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:23:59 -0500 Received: from user-38lcis5.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lcis5.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.75.133]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA06924; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:23:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001200123.UAA06924@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Benjamin Koh" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:22:26 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <3886515C.A1ED6906@stanford.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Extended warranties for refurbed machines - don't buy them! List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:05:48 -0800, Benjamin Koh wrote: >. In all fairness the >acting manager did the best she could, but because it's been more than >30days (IBM's cast-in-stone return policy) I can't get all my money >back. Of course you can get all your money back, with interest, and perhaps punitive damages if you know a good atty. I assume you have some documentation; mail a notorized copy of it via certified mail to the service manager, cc the repair goons, and put them on notice of intent to excerise your right to service for payment fully rendered. From cph Thu Jan 20 11:34:33 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA23971 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:34:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13115; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:26:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12835; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:26:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12660; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (38.8.20.2 -> relay20.smtp.psi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:23:40 -0500 Received: from [204.215.186.11] (helo=ntmail.doble.com) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 12BKMz-00058B-00; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:23:37 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:20:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'Benjamin Koh'" Cc: "Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Workpad z50 now $279 - now it's $265.65! Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:20:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Koh [mailto:benkoh@stanford.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 5:37 PM Cc: Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail) Subject: Re: Workpad z50 now $279 - now it's $265.65! I agree on this sentiment. Whether a product is supported or not does not affect its inherent functionality, only its future usability. I purchased my long-discontinued Zaurus 3500X on this reasoning, and have never regretted it. Sharp has no support for it, but I don't need any because the tools it came with do the job I want - PIM, calendar etc. I'm still happily using the same (outdated) software. On a separate note: the Zaurus is Y2K compliant :-) ------Eric's Comments-------- Hello, They had a story on NPR about people still using 286 machines because it still fills a need and the users feel upgrading will create more problems without upgrading. How fast can a person type anyway? I have a Palm III and find it very useful. I bought the z50 today because I want to play with WinCE as well. Actually I could dedicate it to doing car navigation (I just love it when software comes in both Palm and WinCE versions!). I did a brief comparison and it seems the z50 is a reasonably good unit. The price is icing on the cake. A workplace buddy thinks that Microsoft may drop WinCE (remember BOB anyone?) but I think Microsoft wants in on this smart appliance stuff so expect it to show up in your stove and fridge 8->. It looks like stuff from BOB was turned into Microsoft Agent. So is WinCE going to be turned into WinAE? Who knows? I still use some old stuff. I am not too worried about something for IBM because they seems to keep stuff for old machines on the internet. The sales stuff may go away. So if I buy an old Thinkpad I can at least get some drivers. It may not have the latest features but at least I can use a system that has missing software. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com From cph Thu Jan 20 12:15:14 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA24233 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:15:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16364; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:13:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:12:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16271; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16222; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:12:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (38.8.20.2 -> relay20.smtp.psi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:12:41 -0500 Received: from [204.215.186.11] (helo=ntmail.doble.com) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 12BL86-0006gm-00; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:12:18 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:08:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'Benjamin Koh'" Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: Extended warranties for refurbed machines - don't buy them! Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:08:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Koh [mailto:benkoh@stanford.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 7:06 PM Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Extended warranties for refurbed machines - don't buy them! Just a little note to those of us who have bought refurbished machines and are considering the purchase of extended warranties - don't. I just got off the phone with the acting manager of the customer service department, and confirmed that the warranty repair centre will *not* honor extended warranties on refurbished machines. However, the sales department doesn't know this, and will gladly sell you a ServicePac for $99/year, and will also insist that you are buying the right product. I bought a ServicePac for my 560X last September, and have been trying to activate it ever since, only to be told "the computer won't accept it" and "that's exactly what I would sell you if you didn't already have it" and "leave a message and we'll get back to you". In all fairness the acting manager did the best she could, but because it's been more than 30days (IBM's cast-in-stone return policy) I can't get all my money back. This concludes a 4 month battle with answering machines, misinformed salesmen and helpless computer operators at IBM. So learn from my mistake - if it doesn't work out of the box, return it. Don't fight it. Hello, Well thanks for the information. I really think you should have gone the mail route months ago. You need to contact someone with authority at IBM (maybe Lou?) sending copies of all your documentation and a letter explaining your situation, how they are misrepresenting their extended warranty service, etc. It sounds like although helpful the customer service manager does not have power to do anything. It sounds like IBM sold you a service that they never intended to honor. Sounds like fraud to me. I would not settle for anything other than a full refund. Just remember it is their problem! If they use that cast-in-stone return policy as an excuse not to refund your money then IBM is acting foolishly. I would take them to court and maybe write the BBB, attorney-generals, and local TV consumer reporters as well. My state attorney-general has a consumer affairs section. 73 Eric eac@shore.net WB1HBU From cph Thu Jan 20 18:33:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA27054 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:33:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19251; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:31:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:28:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18926; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:28:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18912; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:28:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:28:54 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-214.gate.net [199.227.131.23]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA44032; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:26:52 -0500 Message-ID: <388799AB.551074C8@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:26:36 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan Ballard CC: Benjamin Koh , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Extended warranties for refurbed machines - don't buy them! References: <200001200123.UAA06924@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Note to Repair Goons: FIX the $%^&*(&^%$ machine or Vito and Guido will be there to discuss this matter with you, in person.. :-) Allan Ballard wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:05:48 -0800, Benjamin Koh wrote: > > >. In all fairness the > >acting manager did the best she could, but because it's been more than > >30days (IBM's cast-in-stone return policy) I can't get all my money > >back. > > Of course you can get all your money back, with interest, > and perhaps punitive damages if you know a good atty. > > I assume you have some documentation; mail a notorized > copy of it via certified mail to the service manager, cc the > repair goons, and put them on notice of intent to excerise > your right to service for payment fully rendered. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Thu Jan 20 18:33:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA27058 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:33:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19279; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:30:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18994; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:30:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18980; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:30:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:30:00 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-214.gate.net [199.227.131.23]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28098; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:27:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3887995C.553D3A74@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:25:16 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Cottrell, Eric" CC: "'Benjamin Koh'" , "Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Workpad z50 now $279 - now it's $265.65! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i got one for myself today, its cute.. i may get one for my fumblefingered redhead wife, to whom a mechanical pencil is beyond her abilities, yet shes a TOP critical care nurse.. go figure THAT one out.. :-) get the parallel printer cable and , maybe, the port replicator.. or wait until these parts show up in the surplus pile.. WHICH, BTW, the 701 keyboard has done.. and if the bid is right, i may have a whole lot of new 701 keyboards, along with my studebaker hub caps.. :-) "Cottrell, Eric" wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin Koh [mailto:benkoh@stanford.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 5:37 PM > Cc: Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail) > Subject: Re: Workpad z50 now $279 - now it's $265.65! > > I agree on this sentiment. Whether a product is supported or not does > not affect its inherent functionality, only its future usability. I > purchased my long-discontinued Zaurus 3500X on this reasoning, and have > never regretted it. Sharp has no support for it, but I don't need any > because the tools it came with do the job I want - PIM, calendar etc. > I'm still happily using the same (outdated) software. On a separate > note: the Zaurus is Y2K compliant :-) > > ------Eric's Comments-------- > Hello, > > They had a story on NPR about people still using 286 machines because > it still fills a need and the users feel upgrading will create more > problems without upgrading. How fast can a person type anyway? > > I have a Palm III and find it very useful. I bought the z50 today because > I want to play with WinCE as well. Actually I could dedicate it to doing > car navigation (I just love it when software comes in both Palm and WinCE > versions!). I did a brief comparison and it seems the z50 is a reasonably > good unit. The price is icing on the cake. > > A workplace buddy thinks that Microsoft may drop WinCE (remember BOB > anyone?) > but I think Microsoft wants in on this smart appliance stuff so expect it > to show up in your stove and fridge 8->. It looks like stuff from BOB > was turned into Microsoft Agent. So is WinCE going to be turned into > WinAE? Who knows? > > I still use some old stuff. I am not too worried about something for IBM > because they seems to keep stuff for old machines on the internet. The > sales > stuff may go away. So if I buy an old Thinkpad I can at least get some > drivers. > It may not have the latest features but at least I can use a system that > has missing software. > > 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Thu Jan 20 18:33:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA27064 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:33:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19395; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:32:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:31:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19104; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from server2.snelnet.nl (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19085; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from server2.snelnet.nl (192.87.106.106 -> server2.snelnet.nl) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:31:11 -0500 Received: from netlinq.nl (adsl-145-99-66-109.snelnet.nl [145.99.66.109]) by server2.snelnet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26058 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:33:46 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38879B2D.DDE4901B@netlinq.nl> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:33:01 +0100 From: Jeroen Elfferich Organization: http://www.netlinq.nl/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Thinkpad 600X at 650 Mhz with Windows 2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: IBM Website: http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=1881361&prmenbr=1&cntry=840&lang=en_US ZDNet Review: http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2423252,00.html Cheers, Jeroen From cph Thu Jan 20 18:35:33 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA27091 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:35:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19834; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:34:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:34:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19756; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:34:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19729; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:33:40 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-214.gate.net [199.227.131.23]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27758; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:33:29 -0500 Message-ID: <38879B52.3AC8A300@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:33:38 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Workpad z50 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: thats their profit.. my guess is real cost is about $240 to $250.. my cost is $255.. plus 3% cc fee.. so my real cost is about $263 (need to add the half a buck it costs to run a CC charge over and above the 3%) i'll sell a few remaining units for $279 + $10 for next morning shipping and take a CC, but all i earn is about $15.. i like the unit as it will fint in a slim attache case and do a whole lot of detail keeping... internet browsing, e-mailing, excel'ing, and much more.. if you guys do get some of these, get the port replicator and/or the parallel printer cable option.. Jon wrote: > darn it !! I just ordered one from www.ecost.com > the listed price is $265 + free shipping but BEware, upon the final > screeen, there is > this miraculous $9.99 ( or $9 i cant remember) Handling Fee !! So > overall they give you free shipping but they throw in the handling fee. > go figure > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Bill Morrow wrote: > > > and I have them for $279 > > > > i did not want to say this, but i suppose with all the other sources i > > would be foolinh NOT to chime in.. :-) > > > > my guess is either IBM did not sell many of these and that they a > > discontinuing the model, > > or that there is a new model coming out with a TFT display or something > > else, nice.. > > > > -- > > Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > > > > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Thu Jan 20 19:01:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA27305 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:01:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21607; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:58:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:58:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21490; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from clio.webcombo.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21475; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:57:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from clio.webcombo.net (207.250.9.20 -> mail.webcombo.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:57:59 -0500 Received: from 770z (spartenburg-ip-2-13.dynamic.ziplink.net [209.206.113.13]) by clio.webcombo.net (8.9.3/[.92 webCOMBO - ALL UCE PROHIBITED]) with SMTP id RAA24514 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:56:25 -0600 From: "Richard Chalk" To: "Thinkpad Maillist \(E-mail\)" Subject: Thinkpad 770Z, Windows 2000, Video Capture & Netmeeting problem. Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:57:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3887995C.553D3A74@icanect.net> List-Unsubscribe: I have installed Windows 2000 Professional on the 770Z, and there is a driver for the Trident Video Capture device which installs itself fine. Under device manager, the driver says it is working correctly, but when I start Netmeeting, there is no video to be found. Anyone know of this, and if there is a fix anywhere? TIA Richard From cph Thu Jan 20 23:10:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA28608 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:10:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05260; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:09:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:07:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05077; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:07:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05064; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:07:19 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:07:19 -0500 Received: from smui1.atl.mindspring.net (smui1.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.121]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA20677 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:07:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by smui1.atl.mindspring.net id XAA0000020843; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:07:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:07:17 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Hard Drive Sender: mhargus@pipeline.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 63.248.67.184 List-Unsubscribe: Hello everyone. I have a question. I have aquired a hard drive which has the following number: 36L9293 and I beleive it is an option for the Thinkpad 600 and Thinkpad 570 series notebooks. I would like to know if I can use this hard drive in my Thinkpad 760ED? It is a 10 gig drive and is ATA-4 compliant. I know my 760 is not ata-4 compliant, but it should be backward compatible, right??? I do beleive this drive would be small enough to fit in the laptop (12.5mm), but I dont know if it is "compatible" with the 760ED "caddy". Any help would be gladly accepted! Thank you all, Matt mhargus@pipeline.com From cph Thu Jan 20 23:32:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA28681 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:32:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06205; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:31:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:31:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06102; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw3.njit.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06089; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:31:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw3.njit.edu (128.235.251.11 -> mail-gw3.njit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:31:09 -0500 Received: from homer.njit.edu (homer.njit.edu [128.235.35.70]) by mail-gw3.njit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA04710 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:31:06 -0500 Received: from random.njit.edu (random [128.235.35.107]) by homer.njit.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA26281 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:32:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marvin@localhost) by random.njit.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA06560 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:31:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:31:02 -0500 (EST) From: Marvin Nakayama To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: power adapter for airplanes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: The other day, I was flying on an airplane in which every seat had some kind of power outlet that looked like a car's cigarette lighter hole. Does anyone know what kind of adapter I need to plug my laptop into this outlet and where I could get it? I noticed that IBM has "car power adapters" (see http://servicepac.mainz.ibm.com/eprmhtml/epr2f/7382.htm ) but I can't find anyone who sells it. Thanks. Marvin From cph Fri Jan 21 03:33:34 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA29640 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 03:33:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15402; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 03:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 03:31:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15250; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 03:31:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15237; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 03:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (193.149.48.10 -> slarti.muc.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 03:31:28 -0500 Received: (qmail 719 invoked by uid 66); 21 Jan 2000 08:29:26 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; Fri Jan 21 08:29:26 2000 -0000 Received: by seneca.muc.de (Postfix, from userid 0) id 16C04E823; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:49:15 +0100 (CET) From: Harald Milz Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600X at 650 Mhz with Windows 2000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu References: <38879B2D.DDE4901B@netlinq.nl> Organization: X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Message-Id: <20000121074915.16C04E823@seneca.muc.de> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:49:15 +0100 (CET) List-Unsubscribe: Jeroen Elfferich wrote: > IBM Website: > http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=1881361&prmenbr=1&cntry=840&lang=en_US > ZDNet Review: > http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2423252,00.html Yes but you get the full heating (a.k.a. egg frying) environment only when AC power is connected. Else the CPU is clocked down. -- Science is what happens when preconception meets verification. From cph Fri Jan 21 06:11:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA29975 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:11:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28744; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:10:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:09:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28628; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:09:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28615; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:09:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:09:27 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2ivebs8.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.47.136]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA04374 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:09:26 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:10:15 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: Marvin, This is an Empower adapter. There are several manufacturers and they can be found at CompUSA and also at the big online computer stores. They work really well. Bill Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Marvin Nakayama [mailto:marvin@homer.njit.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 11:31 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: power adapter for airplanes The other day, I was flying on an airplane in which every seat had some kind of power outlet that looked like a car's cigarette lighter hole. Does anyone know what kind of adapter I need to plug my laptop into this outlet and where I could get it? I noticed that IBM has "car power adapters" (see http://servicepac.mainz.ibm.com/eprmhtml/epr2f/7382.htm ) but I can't find anyone who sells it. Thanks. Marvin From cph Fri Jan 21 11:19:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA31327 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:19:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19031; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:18:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:17:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18803; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from warspite.cnchost.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18785; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:17:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from warspite.cnchost.com (207.155.248.9 -> warspite.concentric.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:17:04 -0500 Received: from RJWLaptop1 (w066.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.66]) by warspite.cnchost.com id LAA16841; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:17:00 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.8] Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000121081337.00a8e510@pop3.iceka1.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka1.com@pop3.iceka1.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:16:28 -0800 To: marvin@homer.njit.edu, TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Actually, I'd like to know what airline you were flying on. I keep hearing about these airline power outlets and I keep seeing the adapters for sale, but I never have been on an airline where the adapters are available--and I fly 2 or 3 times per month. Nothing on United, American, Delta, or Continental (certainly not Southwest!), at least not on the planes I've been on. Is it because I don't pay to fly 1st Class? - Randy Whittle At 06:10 AM 01/21/2000 -0500, you wrote: >This is an Empower adapter. There are several manufacturers and they can be >found at CompUSA and also at the big online computer stores. They work >really well. >The other day, I was flying on an airplane in which every seat >had some kind of power outlet that looked like a car's cigarette >lighter hole. Does anyone know what kind of adapter I need >to plug my laptop into this outlet and where I could get it? > >I noticed that IBM has "car power adapters" >(see http://servicepac.mainz.ibm.com/eprmhtml/epr2f/7382.htm ) >but I can't find anyone who sells it. From cph Fri Jan 21 11:21:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA31348 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:21:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19275; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:20:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19177; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:20:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from warspite.cnchost.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19164; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from warspite.cnchost.com (207.155.248.9 -> warspite.concentric.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:20:00 -0500 Received: from RJWLaptop1 (w066.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.66]) by warspite.cnchost.com id LAA18194; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:19:58 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.8] Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000121081647.00a88ea0@pop3.iceka1.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka1.com@pop3.iceka1.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:19:28 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600X at 650 Mhz with Windows 2000 In-Reply-To: <20000121074915.16C04E823@seneca.muc.de> References: <38879B2D.DDE4901B@netlinq.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 08:49 AM 01/21/2000 +0100, you wrote: >Yes but you get the full heating (a.k.a. egg frying) environment only >when AC power is connected. Else the CPU is clocked down. A Pentium III "clocked down" to 500 MHz is still pretty zippy, if you ask me. I think I might buy one of these things in the coming 6 months--perhaps less. Does anyone know if the DVD drive is standard, and if the 600X does indeed include decoding in hardware, or is it all done in software? Is software good enough when you have a Pentium III at 500+ MHz? - Randy Whittle From cph Fri Jan 21 11:31:17 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA31394 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:31:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20571; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:30:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:29:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20462; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:29:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20440; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:29:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.28 -> cpimssmtpu07.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:29:47 -0500 Received: from thinkpad600x - 63.14.49.244 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:29:46 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Richard A. Bilancia" To: "'TP List'" Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:29:17 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: I fly United extensively and they DO have SOME planes configured: Some (not all) 777s in business class & first class Some (not all) 747s in business class & first class Some (not all) 767s in business class & first class I have not seen any outlets in A-320s 727s, 737s or 757s although some seats have a plate covering where the outlet might be located later. > -----Original Message----- > From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@iceka1.com] > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 9:16 AM > To: marvin@homer.njit.edu; TP List > Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes > > > Actually, I'd like to know what airline you were > flying on. I > keep hearing about these airline power outlets and I keep seeing the > adapters for sale, but I never have been on an airline where > the adapters > are available--and I fly 2 or 3 times per month. Nothing on United, > American, Delta, or Continental (certainly not Southwest!), > at least not on > the planes I've been on. > > Is it because I don't pay to fly 1st Class? > > - Randy Whittle From cph Fri Jan 21 11:32:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA31400 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:32:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20783; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:31:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:30:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20677; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20641; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:30:48 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [172.20.2.1]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01407; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:29:56 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [172.20.1.9]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA04008; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:29:55 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:29:54 +0000 To: marvin@homer.njit.edu, TP List , Randal Whittle Subject: Re[2]: power adapter for trains MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id LAA31401 Dunno about Airlines but on British Rail intercity trains I find that there is a convenient 240V mains socket next to the telephone. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes Author: MIME:Randal Whittle at INTERNET Date: 1/21/00 4:23 PM Actually, I'd like to know what airline you were flying on. I keep hearing about these airline power outlets and I keep seeing the adapters for sale, but I never have been on an airline where the adapters are available--and I fly 2 or 3 times per month. Nothing on United, American, Delta, or Continental (certainly not Southwest!), at least not on the planes I've been on. Is it because I don't pay to fly 1st Class? - Randy Whittle At 06:10 AM 01/21/2000 -0500, you wrote: >This is an Empower adapter. There are several manufacturers and they can be >found at CompUSA and also at the big online computer stores. They work >really well. >The other day, I was flying on an airplane in which every seat >had some kind of power outlet that looked like a car's cigarette >lighter hole. Does anyone know what kind of adapter I need >to plug my laptop into this outlet and where I could get it? > >I noticed that IBM has "car power adapters" >(see http://servicepac.mainz.ibm.com/eprmhtml/epr2f/7382.htm ) >but I can't find anyone who sells it. ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Fri Jan 21 11:58:55 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA31585 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:58:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23132; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:56:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:56:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22993; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:56:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22979; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:56:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (129.10.116.51 -> amber.ccs.neu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:56:15 -0500 Received: from zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id e0LGuEH29093 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:56:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id e0LGuD729047; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:56:13 -0500 (EST) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: power adapter for airplanes References: From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 21 Jan 2000 11:56:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: "William Armstrong"'s message of "Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:10:15 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: "William Armstrong" writes: > This is an Empower adapter. There are several manufacturers and they can be > found at CompUSA and also at the big online computer stores. They work > really well. A couple of tips: 1) I'm really happy with my Port universal adapter (mostly because I can use it with my current and future devices). www.port.com 2) Always bring sufficient battery tech with you. The deployment of the Empower jacks is somewhat spotty and most of the airline employees don't even know they exist. Different airlines deploy them on different model planes in different *rows* (if they have them at all). I've spent considerable time trying to track down which planes have them. I've only succeeded in getting American Airlines' list. Even with this list, sometimes plane models get switched at the last minute (or your flight gets cancelled and you have to hop airlines). Peace, dNb From cph Fri Jan 21 12:15:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA31697 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:15:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24394; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:10:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:10:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24310; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:10:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24292; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:10:08 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax44.vramp.net [198.138.8.107]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA20994; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:09:40 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Randal Whittle" Cc: Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:09:28 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000121081337.00a8e510@pop3.iceka1.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Randy, I've only seen them in first and business class, but I've seen them on BA, USAIR, United and Continental. Also, they seem to only be in the "newer" airframes. Regards, James > -----Original Message----- > From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@iceka1.com] > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:16 AM > To: marvin@homer.njit.edu; TP List > Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes > > > Actually, I'd like to know what airline you were flying on. I > keep hearing about these airline power outlets and I keep seeing the > adapters for sale, but I never have been on an airline where the adapters > are available--and I fly 2 or 3 times per month. Nothing on United, > American, Delta, or Continental (certainly not Southwest!), at least not on > the planes I've been on. > > Is it because I don't pay to fly 1st Class? > > - Randy Whittle From cph Fri Jan 21 12:30:33 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA31797 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:30:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26178; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:25:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:24:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25926; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer.psc.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25894; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:24:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer.psc.edu (128.182.58.100 -> mailer.psc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:24:44 -0500 Received: from noquarter (noquarter.psc.edu [128.182.62.63]) by mailer.psc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/psc) with ESMTP id MAA26375; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:24:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000121121741.0206c410@alpha.vms.psc.edu> X-Sender: scott@alpha.vms.psc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:24:40 -0500 To: Marvin Nakayama From: "J. Ray Scott" Subject: Re: power adapter for airplanes Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I used this feature for the first time this past November. I have a "Microbolt DC Auto Adapter" that I got from Xtend Micor Products, Inc. Irvine CA. I bought it for the 701 I had at time but have used it in the car for the whole 560 series and now 570. I got a "Auto Adapter to Airplane plug" adapter from igo -- www.igo.com, which is where I go for most of my mobile computing needs. This is just a foot long cable that plugs into the armrest outlet on the plane and then the auto adapter plugs into it. Terrorists carry less gear but, it worked fine. One caution... On the way from Pittsburgh to Seattle, it didn't work at all. I had people all along the row try it for me but no luck. Coming home, it worked fine. What I noticed, though, was the battery indicator in the systray never changed to the power plug so somehow, the 560 didn't figure out it was on power. BUT, it really was charging 'cause I computed the whole trip home ( > 4 hours ) and the battery was still full. J Ray At 11:31 PM 1/20/00 -0500, you wrote: >The other day, I was flying on an airplane in which every seat >had some kind of power outlet that looked like a car's cigarette >lighter hole. Does anyone know what kind of adapter I need >to plug my laptop into this outlet and where I could get it? > >I noticed that IBM has "car power adapters" >(see http://servicepac.mainz.ibm.com/eprmhtml/epr2f/7382.htm ) >but I can't find anyone who sells it. > >Thanks. > >Marvin From cph Fri Jan 21 13:11:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA32167 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:11:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00373; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:09:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00252; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00236; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:09:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:09:32 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2iveaft.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.41.253]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA20016 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:09:30 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "TP List" Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:10:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000121081337.00a8e510@pop3.iceka1.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Randy, Come on! Of course these things are only available in First and Business Class. Maybe there are long term plans to add them in Coach, but given the general decline in service in Coach, I find it hard to believe that this can be expected anytime soon. I've had the pleasure of using these adapters several times in Business and First Class on travels overseas. Don't usually get to travel up front on Domestic trips, though. I had an East to West coast flight (AMERICAN???) a while back where the flight attendants said over the intercom to everyone, including the Coach people, that connections for laptops were available in the seats. A woman near me got quite excited about the possibility of wiring up her laptop. I leaned over and told her that as far as I could tell there were none of these outlets in Coach and that she would need a special adapter (Empower) to do the hook up anyway. Once asked, the flight attendant realized that the outlets were only in the front cabins and offered to take this woman up front to attempt a hook up. She came back to her seat right away with a disappointed look on her face and used her battery for the rest of the flight. BTW, Amtrak here on the East coast (Metroliner) has AC outlets at many if not all seats. I have also hooked up, with the appropriate adapter, to AC outlets on several trains last year traveling from Italy to Switzerland. Watched DVD's I was carrying, and also followed my route through the mountains on an ENCARTA atlas on DVD. If I had had a GPS with me I could possibly followed my progress on that, too. That was fun. -Bill Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@iceka1.com] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:16 AM To: marvin@homer.njit.edu; TP List Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes Actually, I'd like to know what airline you were flying on. I keep hearing about these airline power outlets and I keep seeing the adapters for sale, but I never have been on an airline where the adapters are available--and I fly 2 or 3 times per month. Nothing on United, American, Delta, or Continental (certainly not Southwest!), at least not on the planes I've been on. Is it because I don't pay to fly 1st Class? - Randy Whittle At 06:10 AM 01/21/2000 -0500, you wrote: >This is an Empower adapter. There are several manufacturers and they can be >found at CompUSA and also at the big online computer stores. They work >really well. >The other day, I was flying on an airplane in which every seat >had some kind of power outlet that looked like a car's cigarette >lighter hole. Does anyone know what kind of adapter I need >to plug my laptop into this outlet and where I could get it? > >I noticed that IBM has "car power adapters" >(see http://servicepac.mainz.ibm.com/eprmhtml/epr2f/7382.htm ) >but I can't find anyone who sells it. From cph Fri Jan 21 13:37:13 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA32443 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:37:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02763; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:32:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02592; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c23.us.kpmg.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02579; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:32:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c23.us.kpmg.com (199.207.255.23 -> p0016c23.us.kpmg.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:32:30 -0500 Received: from p0016c56.kweb.us.kpmg.com by p0016c23.us.kpmg.com(Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA21576 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c22.kweb.us.kpmg.com by p0016c56.kweb.us.kpmg.com via smtpd (for p0016c23.us.kpmg.com [199.207.255.23]) with SMTP; 21 Jan 2000 18:32:42 UT Received: from usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com by kpmg.com(Pro-8.9.2/Pro-8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA19612 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:32:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com (unverified) by usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:32:15 -0500 Received: by usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:32:14 -0500 Message-Id: <8389C74A65EFD111B03800805FA7658F0501864A@USDALEXC01> From: "Egbert, Scott K" To: "'William Armstrong'" , TP List Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:29:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I was on a United or USAir flight (I don't remember which) in COACH!! last month from Charlotte to Denver that had the outlet. Unfortunately, I didn't have an adapter. -----Original Message----- From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:10 AM To: TP List Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes Randy, Come on! Of course these things are only available in First and Business Class. Maybe there are long term plans to add them in Coach, but given the general decline in service in Coach, I find it hard to believe that this can be expected anytime soon. I've had the pleasure of using these adapters several times in Business and First Class on travels overseas. Don't usually get to travel up front on Domestic trips, though. I had an East to West coast flight (AMERICAN???) a while back where the flight attendants said over the intercom to everyone, including the Coach people, that connections for laptops were available in the seats. A woman near me got quite excited about the possibility of wiring up her laptop. I leaned over and told her that as far as I could tell there were none of these outlets in Coach and that she would need a special adapter (Empower) to do the hook up anyway. Once asked, the flight attendant realized that the outlets were only in the front cabins and offered to take this woman up front to attempt a hook up. She came back to her seat right away with a disappointed look on her face and used her battery for the rest of the flight. BTW, Amtrak here on the East coast (Metroliner) has AC outlets at many if not all seats. I have also hooked up, with the appropriate adapter, to AC outlets on several trains last year traveling from Italy to Switzerland. Watched DVD's I was carrying, and also followed my route through the mountains on an ENCARTA atlas on DVD. If I had had a GPS with me I could possibly followed my progress on that, too. That was fun. -Bill Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@iceka1.com] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:16 AM To: marvin@homer.njit.edu; TP List Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes Actually, I'd like to know what airline you were flying on. I keep hearing about these airline power outlets and I keep seeing the adapters for sale, but I never have been on an airline where the adapters are available--and I fly 2 or 3 times per month. Nothing on United, American, Delta, or Continental (certainly not Southwest!), at least not on the planes I've been on. Is it because I don't pay to fly 1st Class? - Randy Whittle At 06:10 AM 01/21/2000 -0500, you wrote: >This is an Empower adapter. There are several manufacturers and they can be >found at CompUSA and also at the big online computer stores. They work >really well. >The other day, I was flying on an airplane in which every seat >had some kind of power outlet that looked like a car's cigarette >lighter hole. Does anyone know what kind of adapter I need >to plug my laptop into this outlet and where I could get it? > >I noticed that IBM has "car power adapters" >(see http://servicepac.mainz.ibm.com/eprmhtml/epr2f/7382.htm ) >but I can't find anyone who sells it. ***************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. 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There's a new TBOOK out that should answer the factual questions: ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pcicrse/psref/tbook.pdf > Is software good enough when you have a Pentium III at > 500+ MHz? Alas, the TBOOK won't answer that... -Mike From cph Fri Jan 21 13:48:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA32581 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:48:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04724; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:46:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04651; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04629; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (142.90.100.150 -> trmail.Triumf.CA) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:46:52 -0500 Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA [142.90.120.3]) by trmail.triumf.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA29806; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:46:33 -0800 Message-ID: <004001bf6441$8572ac40$03785a8e@pmachule> From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: , References: Subject: Re: Hard Drive for 760's Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:58:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: It's not that simple If you have a 810 MB caddy it will not work . If you have one of the larger caddies it should be fine from a hardware viewpoint. It still may not work from a Bios viewpoint. ;-} We just got bitten by this yesterday . I was swapping out a 810MB (DS0A-20810 ) from a 760E /760XL with a .3GB,( type DKLA-24320). The 760 could not see the HD , even the Bios Icon was greyed out. I grabed a different caddy from a 2.1GB and it works fine. The caddies are different and so is the "flex" connector. Weird part is that according to IBM's wab page, the pinouts of both drives are the same . ie default master/ slave C/S etc. I am about the buzz out both flex cables to figure this out. If anyone knows more , please let us know . ..Peter Machule ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 8:07 PM Subject: Hard Drive > Hello everyone. > > I have a question. > > I have aquired a hard drive which has the following number: 36L9293 and I beleive it is an option for the Thinkpad 600 and Thinkpad 570 series notebooks. I would like to know if I can use this hard drive in my Thinkpad 760ED? It is a 10 gig drive and is ATA-4 compliant. I know my 760 is not ata-4 compliant, but it should be backward compatible, right??? I do beleive this drive would be small enough to fit in the laptop (12.5mm), but I dont know if it is "compatible" with the 760ED "caddy". Any help would be gladly accepted! > > Thank you all, > > Matt > mhargus@pipeline.com > From cph Fri Jan 21 14:16:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA00318 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:16:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07299; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:14:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07187; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07174; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:14:04 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.66 -> imo22.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:14:04 -0500 Received: from Bmwm61@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id o.dc.d64a90 (7776) for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:13:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:13:59 EST Subject: 730T Flash Cards To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: To those 730T users running Win3.1 with working flash cards, a question: How did you get them to work? When I try to access my Type I flash cards (20 and 4 MB) via the file manager I get denied access. The PC Card Director reports the status of the card and says it's "ready", but Windows won't recognize it. I know the card is good because it works in my laptop. Any suggestions? Jim From cph Fri Jan 21 14:27:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA00423 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:27:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08635; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:25:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:25:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08554; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:25:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw3.njit.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08528; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw3.njit.edu (128.235.251.11 -> mail-gw3.njit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:25:41 -0500 Received: from homer.njit.edu (homer.njit.edu [128.235.35.70]) by mail-gw3.njit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14612; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:25:36 -0500 Received: from random.njit.edu (random [128.235.35.107]) by homer.njit.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA08303; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marvin@localhost) by random.njit.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07041; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:25:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:25:30 -0500 (EST) From: Marvin Nakayama To: Randal Whittle cc: marvin@homer.njit.edu, TP List Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000121081337.00a8e510@pop3.iceka1.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Unfortunately, I don't fly 1st class. I'm always stuck back in coach. I was on 2 recent flights that had these outlets: one on American and the other on Canadian Air. I don't remember what kind of planes they were. Marvin On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Randal Whittle wrote: > Actually, I'd like to know what airline you were flying on. I > keep hearing about these airline power outlets and I keep seeing the > adapters for sale, but I never have been on an airline where the adapters > are available--and I fly 2 or 3 times per month. Nothing on United, > American, Delta, or Continental (certainly not Southwest!), at least not on > the planes I've been on. > > Is it because I don't pay to fly 1st Class? > > - Randy Whittle > > From cph Fri Jan 21 15:13:55 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA00762 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:13:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13910; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:12:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:11:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13748; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:11:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13524; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:08:07 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-132.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.132]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA22132 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:08:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000121151103.01322650@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:11:03 -0800 To: TP List From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600X at 650 Mhz with Windows 2000 In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000121081647.00a88ea0@pop3.iceka1.com> References: <20000121074915.16C04E823@seneca.muc.de> <38879B2D.DDE4901B@netlinq.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:19 AM 01/21/2000 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: >At 08:49 AM 01/21/2000 +0100, you wrote: >>Yes but you get the full heating (a.k.a. egg frying) environment only >>when AC power is connected. Else the CPU is clocked down. > > A Pentium III "clocked down" to 500 MHz is still pretty zippy, if >you ask me. > > I think I might buy one of these things in the coming 6 >months--perhaps less. > > Does anyone know if the DVD drive is standard, and if the 600X >does indeed include decoding in hardware, or is it all done in >software? Is software good enough when you have a Pentium III at 500+ MHz? I'll pass due to inferior screen technology. :) I was *really* hoping that IBM offered the 13.7" TFT SXGA as an option. :( Everything else sounds just about right, though.... (sans 25gig HD support). Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Fri Jan 21 15:38:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA00969 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:38:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16155; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:37:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:36:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16047; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:36:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16034; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:36:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:36:53 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2ive6o3.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.27.3]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA11198 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:36:50 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:37:40 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <8389C74A65EFD111B03800805FA7658F0501864A@USDALEXC01> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Actually, unless the flight is not full, and I have an empty seat next to me, I find it extremely difficult to use my 770Z in a Coach seat. I expect that the same applies to the 600 series. On long flights it's not unusual for the person in front to have his/her seat angled back for most of the flight and the there is no room for the laptop between me and the seatback, or you work in fear that they may abruptly push their seat back and do who knows what sort of damage to your laptop. -Bill Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Egbert, Scott K [mailto:segbert@kpmg.com] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 1:29 PM To: 'William Armstrong'; TP List Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes I was on a United or USAir flight (I don't remember which) in COACH!! last month from Charlotte to Denver that had the outlet. Unfortunately, I didn't have an adapter. -----Original Message----- From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:10 AM To: TP List Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes Randy, Come on! Of course these things are only available in First and Business Class. Maybe there are long term plans to add them in Coach, but given the general decline in service in Coach, I find it hard to believe that this can be expected anytime soon. I've had the pleasure of using these adapters several times in Business and First Class on travels overseas. Don't usually get to travel up front on Domestic trips, though. I had an East to West coast flight (AMERICAN???) a while back where the flight attendants said over the intercom to everyone, including the Coach people, that connections for laptops were available in the seats. A woman near me got quite excited about the possibility of wiring up her laptop. I leaned over and told her that as far as I could tell there were none of these outlets in Coach and that she would need a special adapter (Empower) to do the hook up anyway. Once asked, the flight attendant realized that the outlets were only in the front cabins and offered to take this woman up front to attempt a hook up. She came back to her seat right away with a disappointed look on her face and used her battery for the rest of the flight. BTW, Amtrak here on the East coast (Metroliner) has AC outlets at many if not all seats. I have also hooked up, with the appropriate adapter, to AC outlets on several trains last year traveling from Italy to Switzerland. Watched DVD's I was carrying, and also followed my route through the mountains on an ENCARTA atlas on DVD. If I had had a GPS with me I could possibly followed my progress on that, too. That was fun. -Bill Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@iceka1.com] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:16 AM To: marvin@homer.njit.edu; TP List Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes Actually, I'd like to know what airline you were flying on. I keep hearing about these airline power outlets and I keep seeing the adapters for sale, but I never have been on an airline where the adapters are available--and I fly 2 or 3 times per month. Nothing on United, American, Delta, or Continental (certainly not Southwest!), at least not on the planes I've been on. Is it because I don't pay to fly 1st Class? - Randy Whittle At 06:10 AM 01/21/2000 -0500, you wrote: >This is an Empower adapter. There are several manufacturers and they can be >found at CompUSA and also at the big online computer stores. They work >really well. >The other day, I was flying on an airplane in which every seat >had some kind of power outlet that looked like a car's cigarette >lighter hole. Does anyone know what kind of adapter I need >to plug my laptop into this outlet and where I could get it? > >I noticed that IBM has "car power adapters" >(see http://servicepac.mainz.ibm.com/eprmhtml/epr2f/7382.htm ) >but I can't find anyone who sells it. **************************************************************************** * The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. 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Domestic U.S. flights are usually on 737's and 757's--much smaller than any that you listed above. >I have not seen any outlets in A-320s 727s, 737s or 757s although some seats >have a plate covering where the outlet might be located later. Maybe...if ever. :-) - Randy Whittle From cph Fri Jan 21 15:51:13 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA01118 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:51:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17727; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:49:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:49:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17513; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17489; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:49:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93 -> uhura.concentric.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:49:18 -0500 Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id PAA19704; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:49:16 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from RJWLaptop1 (w066.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.66]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id PAA14902; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:49:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000121123641.00a90370@pop3.iceka1.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka1.com@pop3.iceka1.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:38:53 -0800 To: "William Armstrong" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.58.20000121081337.00a8e510@pop3.iceka1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 01:10 PM 01/21/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Randy, > >Come on! Of course these things are only available in First and Business >Class. Maybe there are long term plans to add them in Coach, but given the Believe it or not, now that I think about it, I *think* saw them on alternating rows in Coach on a Continental flight from LAX to Newark, NJ. They look more or less like cigarette lighter holes, don't they? They were kind of stashed under the seat -- cozy spot that you wouldn't know if you didn't look for it. - Randy Whitle From cph Fri Jan 21 16:07:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA01246 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:07:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19894; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:06:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:06:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19799; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.ncal.verio.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19786; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:06:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.ncal.verio.com (207.20.246.161 -> smtp1.ncal.verio.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:06:17 -0500 Received: from ncal (paix-alg-gw5-55.ncal.verio.com [207.21.132.118]) by smtp1.ncal.verio.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA28195 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:06:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000121130023.00d97b90@pop.ncal.verio.com> X-Sender: sandy1@pop.ncal.verio.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:06:16 -0800 To: TP List From: Sandy Meltzer Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600X at 650 Mhz with Windows 2000 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000121151103.01322650@postoffice2.bellatlantic. net> References: <4.2.0.58.20000121081647.00a88ea0@pop3.iceka1.com> <20000121074915.16C04E823@seneca.muc.de> <38879B2D.DDE4901B@netlinq.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Hello all, I'm a long time subscriber to this list, but don't read all posts to it. I know IBM dropped the 770-series ThinkPads (I still love my 770ED), but I don't see anything that will replace it. I agree with Mark Bell, after using the 14.1" TFT display on my 770ED for over a year, I wouldn't be happy with a smaller display...especially since I'm a graphics artist and need as much screen real estate as possible. Why isn't IBM offering a larger screen for the 600X? Is there another ThinkPad coming soon from IBM that will? This looks like yet another poor marketing decision on IBM's part. :( Thanks. Regards, Sandy sandy@sandy.com From cph Fri Jan 21 16:30:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA01469 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:30:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22257; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:29:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:29:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22139; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:28:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from trifid.u.arizona.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22122; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:28:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from trifid.u.arizona.edu (128.196.137.197 -> trifid.U.Arizona.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:28:58 -0500 Received: from e770 (t4600c-p.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU [150.135.52.51]) by trifid.u.arizona.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11454 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:28:53 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000121142514.00a483e0@spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu> X-Sender: stu@spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:28:49 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Stuart F. Biggar" Subject: Fwd: RE: power adapter for airplanes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: >X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka1.com@pop3.iceka1.com >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 >Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:16:28 -0800 >To: marvin@homer.njit.edu, TP List >From: Randal Whittle >Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes >List-Unsubscribe: > > Actually, I'd like to know what airline you were flying on. I > keep hearing about these airline power outlets and I keep seeing the > adapters for sale, but I never have been on an airline where the adapters > are available--and I fly 2 or 3 times per month. Nothing on United, > American, Delta, or Continental (certainly not Southwest!), at least not > on the planes I've been on. > > Is it because I don't pay to fly 1st Class? Possibly or because you are on an older airplane (like Delta's Boeing 727s). I have used a power adapter with a 765D on a Delta MD11 in business class (mileage upgrade) on a flight to/from Tokyo/LA. I think many of the newer airplanes have the plugs, at least in business and/or 1st class. Stuart >- Randy Whittle > > >At 06:10 AM 01/21/2000 -0500, you wrote: >>This is an Empower adapter. There are several manufacturers and they can be >>found at CompUSA and also at the big online computer stores. They work >>really well. > > >>The other day, I was flying on an airplane in which every seat >>had some kind of power outlet that looked like a car's cigarette >>lighter hole. Does anyone know what kind of adapter I need >>to plug my laptop into this outlet and where I could get it? >> >>I noticed that IBM has "car power adapters" >>(see http://servicepac.mainz.ibm.com/eprmhtml/epr2f/7382.htm ) >>but I can't find anyone who sells it. > From cph Fri Jan 21 18:35:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA02376 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:35:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00307; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:33:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00106; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00062; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (193.149.48.10 -> slarti.muc.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:33:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 3664 invoked by uid 66); 21 Jan 2000 23:31:33 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; Fri Jan 21 23:31:33 2000 -0000 Received: by seneca.muc.de (Postfix, from userid 0) id DF23BE823; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:44:17 +0100 (CET) From: Harald Milz Subject: Re: Hard Drive for 760's To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu References: <004001bf6441$8572ac40$03785a8e@pmachule> Organization: X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Message-Id: <20000121204417.DF23BE823@seneca.muc.de> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:44:17 +0100 (CET) List-Unsubscribe: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: > If anyone knows more , please let us know . BIOS upgrade. -- VMS is like a nightmare about RXS-11M. From cph Fri Jan 21 18:35:13 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA02393 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:35:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00318; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:34:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:33:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00087; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00066; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (193.149.48.10 -> slarti.muc.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:33:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 3673 invoked by uid 66); 21 Jan 2000 23:31:34 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; Fri Jan 21 23:31:34 2000 -0000 Received: by seneca.muc.de (Postfix, from userid 0) id D72CCE823; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:46:23 +0100 (CET) From: Harald Milz Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600X at 650 Mhz with Windows 2000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu References: <20000121074915.16C04E823@seneca.muc.de> <38879B2D.DDE4901B@netlinq.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000121151103.01322650@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Organization: X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Message-Id: <20000121204623.D72CCE823@seneca.muc.de> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:46:23 +0100 (CET) List-Unsubscribe: Mark Bell wrote: > At 08:19 AM 01/21/2000 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: >> Does anyone know if the DVD drive is standard, and if the 600X >>does indeed include decoding in hardware, or is it all done in >>software? Is software good enough when you have a Pentium III at 500+ MHz? A DSP @ 50 MHz would be better. > I'll pass due to inferior screen technology. :) I was *really* hoping that > IBM offered the 13.7" TFT SXGA as an option. :( Everything else sounds > just about right, though.... (sans 25gig HD support). Not doable. The 600 has a slot which fits 12.5mm disks. The 25G is 17 mm high. -- You know the great thing about TV? If something important happens anywhere at all in the world, no matter what time of the day or night, you can always change the channel. -- Jim Ignatowski From cph Fri Jan 21 19:35:55 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA02702 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:35:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03957; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:35:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:33:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03770; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:33:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03754; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:33:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (142.90.100.150 -> trmail.Triumf.CA) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:33:19 -0500 Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA [142.90.120.3]) by trmail.triumf.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA03332; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:33:10 -0800 Message-ID: <009201bf6471$f1bde7e0$03785a8e@pmachule> From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: , References: <004001bf6441$8572ac40$03785a8e@pmachule> <20000121204417.DF23BE823@seneca.muc.de> Subject: Re: Hard Drive for 760's Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:45:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Nope ! The Bios is fine for this 4.3GB . Remember, it works with the caddy from a 2.1GB . Bios has been upgraded to the latest version . ..peter.. ----- Original Message ----- From: Harald Milz To: Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Hard Drive for 760's > peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: > > > If anyone knows more , please let us know . > > BIOS upgrade. > > -- > VMS is like a nightmare about RXS-11M. > From cph Fri Jan 21 20:33:34 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA02963 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:33:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06696; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:33:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:32:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06595; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:32:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06449; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:28:35 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-70.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.70]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA06123; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:28:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000121203129.01320850@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:31:29 -0800 To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600X at 650 Mhz with Windows 2000 In-Reply-To: <20000121204623.D72CCE823@seneca.muc.de> References: <20000121074915.16C04E823@seneca.muc.de> <38879B2D.DDE4901B@netlinq.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000121151103.01322650@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:46 PM 01/21/2000 +0100, Harald Milz wrote: >Mark Bell wrote: >> At 08:19 AM 01/21/2000 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: >>> Does anyone know if the DVD drive is standard, and if the 600X >>>does indeed include decoding in hardware, or is it all done in >>>software? Is software good enough when you have a Pentium III at 500+ MHz? > >A DSP @ 50 MHz would be better. > >> I'll pass due to inferior screen technology. :) I was *really* hoping that >> IBM offered the 13.7" TFT SXGA as an option. :( Everything else sounds >> just about right, though.... (sans 25gig HD support). > >Not doable. The 600 has a slot which fits 12.5mm disks. The 25G is 17 mm >high. Hence my statement.... :) Sans 25gig HD support means without or absent thereof. So in effect, I am saying the 600x is lacking support for 25gig HD and SXGA displays. Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Fri Jan 21 22:28:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA03426 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:28:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12513; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:23:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12401; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from f04n07.cac.psu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12388; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:23:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from f04n07.cac.psu.edu (128.118.141.35 -> f04s07.cac.psu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:23:35 -0500 Received: from dell-xps-t500 (access-isdn2-46.hbg.psu.edu [146.186.228.223]) by f04n07.cac.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA34042 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:23:23 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000121221959.00a77e60@mail.psu.edu> X-Sender: rfm@mail.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:20:54 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Bob Munzenrider Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: What's the proper syntax to request to request a digest of the traffic on the list? Thanks BobM From cph Fri Jan 21 22:54:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA03527 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:54:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13569; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:54:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:53:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13495; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:53:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13482; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:53:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.26 -> cpimssmtpu01.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:53:54 -0500 Received: from default - 63.27.203.88 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:53:45 -0800 Message-ID: <001501bf648b$3bc10340$58cb1b3f@default> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Think" Subject: Connecting 2 pc's Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:46:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I need to connect my 560 to a run-of-the-mill desktop. He's got a 366 pent, and my 560 is a 133. We are building a cd image for a disk we are planning to market. IS there a way to connect both machines to update the image we are planning to use? So both machines have the identical image? Thanks From cph Fri Jan 21 23:02:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA03563 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:02:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14063; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:01:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13989; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:01:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13975; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.243 -> out5.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:01:20 -0500 Received: from oscar ([32.100.144.140]) by prserv.net (out5) with SMTP id <2000012204011724300e22gte>; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 04:01:18 +0000 Message-ID: <005c01bf648c$f87242a0$8c906420@oscar> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin" From: "Tom Franklin" To: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: <004001bf6441$8572ac40$03785a8e@pmachule> Subject: Re: Hard Drive for 760's Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:58:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: The smaller hard drives mess with the master/slave pins on the IDE connector. Using the older caddy with the newer drive sets the drive for slave. Hence it wont work. You can fix the problem by cutting pins on the drive or on the cable. ----- Original Message ----- From: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP To: ; Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:58 AM Subject: Re: Hard Drive for 760's > It's not that simple > If you have a 810 MB caddy it will not work . > If you have one of the larger caddies it should be fine from a hardware > viewpoint. > It still may not work from a Bios viewpoint. ;-} > > We just got bitten by this yesterday . > I was swapping out a 810MB (DS0A-20810 ) from a 760E /760XL with a > .3GB,( type DKLA-24320). > > The 760 could not see the HD , even the Bios Icon was greyed out. > I grabed a different caddy from a 2.1GB and it works fine. > The caddies are different and so is the "flex" connector. > > Weird part is that according to IBM's wab page, the pinouts of both drives > are the same . > ie default master/ slave C/S etc. > > I am about the buzz out both flex cables to figure this out. > > If anyone knows more , please let us know . > > ..Peter Machule > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 8:07 PM > Subject: Hard Drive > > > > Hello everyone. > > > > I have a question. > > > > I have aquired a hard drive which has the following number: 36L9293 and I > beleive it is an option for the Thinkpad 600 and Thinkpad 570 series > notebooks. I would like to know if I can use this hard drive in my Thinkpad > 760ED? It is a 10 gig drive and is ATA-4 compliant. I know my 760 is not > ata-4 compliant, but it should be backward compatible, right??? I do beleive > this drive would be small enough to fit in the laptop (12.5mm), but I dont > know if it is "compatible" with the 760ED "caddy". Any help would be gladly > accepted! > > > > Thank you all, > > > > Matt > > mhargus@pipeline.com > > > > From cph Fri Jan 21 23:51:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA03715 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:51:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16338; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:50:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:49:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16185; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16172; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:49:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:49:41 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-374.gate.net [199.227.173.120]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA48654; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:49:35 -0500 Message-ID: <388936F7.645B202A@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:49:59 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP CC: mhargus@pipeline.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard Drive for 760's References: <004001bf6441$8572ac40$03785a8e@pmachule> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: isolate the four drive select pins.. there IS a difference.. the 810meg is pre-change, the 2.1gig is post change.. i really need to explain this on my site, i suppose, so i don't wear my fingers off every time.. :-) peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: > It's not that simple > If you have a 810 MB caddy it will not work . > If you have one of the larger caddies it should be fine from a hardware > viewpoint. > It still may not work from a Bios viewpoint. ;-} > > We just got bitten by this yesterday . > I was swapping out a 810MB (DS0A-20810 ) from a 760E /760XL with a > .3GB,( type DKLA-24320). > > The 760 could not see the HD , even the Bios Icon was greyed out. > I grabed a different caddy from a 2.1GB and it works fine. > The caddies are different and so is the "flex" connector. > > Weird part is that according to IBM's wab page, the pinouts of both drives > are the same . > ie default master/ slave C/S etc. > > I am about the buzz out both flex cables to figure this out. > > If anyone knows more , please let us know . > > ..Peter Machule > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 8:07 PM > Subject: Hard Drive > > > Hello everyone. > > > > I have a question. > > > > I have aquired a hard drive which has the following number: 36L9293 and I > beleive it is an option for the Thinkpad 600 and Thinkpad 570 series > notebooks. I would like to know if I can use this hard drive in my Thinkpad > 760ED? It is a 10 gig drive and is ATA-4 compliant. I know my 760 is not > ata-4 compliant, but it should be backward compatible, right??? I do beleive > this drive would be small enough to fit in the laptop (12.5mm), but I dont > know if it is "compatible" with the 760ED "caddy". Any help would be gladly > accepted! > > > > Thank you all, > > > > Matt > > mhargus@pipeline.com > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Fri Jan 21 23:58:59 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA03734 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:58:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16874; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:58:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16799; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:58:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16786; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:58:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:58:21 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-374.gate.net [199.227.173.120]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21160; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:58:20 -0500 Message-ID: <38893902.C14A5F16@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:58:42 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mhargus@pipeline.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard Drive References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: NO, the 760 series will not recognise this drive.. you can try it with one of those bios overlay utilities, like ontrack, but AFAIK (through empirical testing) 6.4gigs is the max for 765 series and earlier.. mhargus@pipeline.com wrote: > Hello everyone. > > I have a question. > > I have aquired a hard drive which has the following number: 36L9293 and I beleive it is an option for the Thinkpad 600 and Thinkpad 570 series notebooks. I would like to know if I can use this hard drive in my Thinkpad 760ED? It is a 10 gig drive and is ATA-4 compliant. I know my 760 is not ata-4 compliant, but it should be backward compatible, right??? I do beleive this drive would be small enough to fit in the laptop (12.5mm), but I dont know if it is "compatible" with the 760ED "caddy". Any help would be gladly accepted! > > Thank you all, > > Matt > mhargus@pipeline.com -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sat Jan 22 00:05:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA03781 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:05:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17572; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:05:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:05:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17487; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:05:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17472; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:05:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:05:12 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-374.gate.net [199.227.173.120]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA53628; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:05:09 -0500 Message-ID: <38893A9C.6861D3C2@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:05:32 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600X at 650 Mhz with Windows 2000 References: <20000121074915.16C04E823@seneca.muc.de> <38879B2D.DDE4901B@netlinq.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000121151103.01322650@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> <20000121204623.D72CCE823@seneca.muc.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: IMO the screen technology is not inferior.. the SXGA display will be offered in the 600 AFAIK, later this year.. whether this will be a 13.3 or 13.7 i don't know.. also note: with DELL's superduper SXGA+ the whole idea of SVGA, XGA, SXGA, et al., is on its ear.. how about a 1280 x 768 or some such odd size..?? i think things are breaking out of the narrow confines of previous 'rules'.. :-) Harald Milz wrote: > Mark Bell wrote: > > At 08:19 AM 01/21/2000 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > >> Does anyone know if the DVD drive is standard, and if the 600X > >>does indeed include decoding in hardware, or is it all done in > >>software? Is software good enough when you have a Pentium III at 500+ MHz? > > A DSP @ 50 MHz would be better. > > > I'll pass due to inferior screen technology. :) I was *really* hoping that > > IBM offered the 13.7" TFT SXGA as an option. :( Everything else sounds > > just about right, though.... (sans 25gig HD support). > > Not doable. The 600 has a slot which fits 12.5mm disks. The 25G is 17 mm > high. > > -- > You know the great thing about TV? If something important happens > anywhere at all in the world, no matter what time of the day or night, > you can always change the channel. > -- Jim Ignatowski -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sat Jan 22 02:47:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA04258 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 02:47:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23396; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 02:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 02:45:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23243; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 02:45:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23229; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 02:45:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 02:45:16 -0500 Received: from worldnet.att.net ([12.72.58.90]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with ESMTP id <20000122074500.ZVAM7433@worldnet.att.net> for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 07:45:00 +0000 Message-ID: <38895FB9.49DE9255@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:43:53 -0800 From: Frank Janik Reply-To: f.s.janik@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-WNS2.5 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Ref: guidance on a new Li-Ion TP Battery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello Folks Uncle Frank Here, New To The List ! I Am The Proud Owner Of A NEW TP i 1420. I Just Purchased A New Li-Ion Battery From Big Blue. Still In The Box, I would like any suggestions on how to charge this battery for the first couple of times. Thanks To All Uncle Frank Ps. To any new i series 2621 type thinkpads, IBM has a New Bios Update To Address Several Areas, Also a CPU Thermal Update. I Applied This New Bios Update A Few Days Ago, Works Fine. From cph Sat Jan 22 03:15:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA04311 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:15:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24889; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:14:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:14:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24815; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:14:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24802; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246 -> smtp10.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:14:28 -0500 Received: from thinkpad1721i (user-33qt8p2.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.163.34]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA02155 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:14:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003601bf64b0$8245d6e0$22a3aec7@thinkpad1721i> From: "Chuck S." To: References: Subject: IBM Reinstates Extended Warranty Offering for i Series TP Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 02:11:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: When I tried to buy an extended warranty in August '99 on my 6 month old i1721, I was told that extended warranties were no longer available for the i Series. A few of you also reported the same problem. IBM was polite enough about it, and offered me 3 free software support calls to appease me. A freind of mine was in a similar situation, and after calling for serveral months, was told that IBM reinstated their extended warranty on the i Series. So, I was able to purchase a 2 year extended depot service for $99. From cph Sat Jan 22 03:45:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA04367 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:45:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26361; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:44:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:44:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26285; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:44:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26272; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (206.184.139.15 -> proxy4.ba.best.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:44:32 -0500 Received: from dgoldman (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id AAA04076 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:43:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.1.20000122004039.0483d940@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:43:10 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: Connecting 2 pc's In-Reply-To: <001501bf648b$3bc10340$58cb1b3f@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 07:46 PM 1/21/2000 , Brad Burean wrote: >I need to connect my 560 to a run-of-the-mill desktop. He's got a 366 pent, >and my 560 is a 133. We are building a cd image for a disk we are planning >to market. IS there a way to connect both machines to update the image we >are planning to use? So both machines have the identical image? Thanks If you need to have both machines access a constantly changing CD Image, then the obvious way to go is to network the two machines. On the other hand, if you only want to transfer the image infrequently (once a day or less) and the machines are close to each other, then using a utility such as LapLink and a parallel or USB cable should do the trick nicely. -- David Goldman From cph Sat Jan 22 05:10:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA04580 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 05:10:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02552; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 05:09:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 05:09:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02435; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 05:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02425; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 05:09:08 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.72 -> imo28.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 05:09:08 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id c.de.5dd8b9 (4567); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 05:08:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 05:08:59 EST Subject: Re: Ref: guidance on a new Li-Ion TP Battery To: f.s.janik@worldnet.att.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 44 List-Unsubscribe: Frank, This is IBM's most recent article for "Tips to get the most out of your battery" (Dated: 11-2-99): http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/PFAN-3QNQJN.html John From cph Sat Jan 22 06:32:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA04871 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:32:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09311; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:31:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09094; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09072; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:31:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (193.149.48.10 -> slarti.muc.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:31:56 -0500 Received: (qmail 28395 invoked by uid 66); 22 Jan 2000 11:29:50 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; Sat Jan 22 11:29:50 2000 -0000 Received: by seneca.muc.de (Postfix, from userid 0) id 28AA5EB1D; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 11:57:36 +0100 (CET) From: Harald Milz Subject: Re: Connecting 2 pc's To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu References: <001501bf648b$3bc10340$58cb1b3f@default> Organization: X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Message-Id: <20000122105736.28AA5EB1D@seneca.muc.de> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 11:57:36 +0100 (CET) List-Unsubscribe: Brad Burean wrote: > I need to connect my 560 to a run-of-the-mill desktop. He's got a 366 pent, > and my 560 is a 133. We are building a cd image for a disk we are planning > to market. IS there a way to connect both machines to update the image we > are planning to use? So both machines have the identical image? Thanks 2 network cards maybe? Or do I miss something? -- Murphy's Discovery: Do you know Presidents talk to the country the way men talk to women? They say, "Trust me, go all the way with me, and everything will be all right." And what happens? Nine months later, you're in trouble! From cph Sat Jan 22 06:32:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA04875 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:32:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09313; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:31:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09104; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09074; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:31:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (193.149.48.10 -> slarti.muc.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:31:56 -0500 Received: (qmail 28407 invoked by uid 66); 22 Jan 2000 11:29:51 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; Sat Jan 22 11:29:51 2000 -0000 Received: by seneca.muc.de (Postfix, from userid 0) id AC1AEEB1D; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:00:55 +0100 (CET) From: Harald Milz Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600X at 650 Mhz with Windows 2000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu References: <4.2.0.58.20000121081647.00a88ea0@pop3.iceka1.com> <20000121074915.16C04E823@seneca.muc.de> <38879B2D.DDE4901B@netlinq.nl> <4.2.2.20000121130023.00d97b90@pop.ncal.verio.com> Organization: X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Message-Id: <20000122110055.AC1AEEB1D@seneca.muc.de> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:00:55 +0100 (CET) List-Unsubscribe: Sandy Meltzer wrote: > Why isn't IBM offering a larger screen for the 600X? Is there another > ThinkPad coming soon from IBM that will? This looks like yet another poor > marketing decision on IBM's part. :( Thanks. No. IBM announced last November there will be a successor for the 770. I doubt the new model will be visible before CeBIT. -- I'm just a bloody foreigner from up north and maybe I don't know better but here we prefer tits instead of gun-waving biblethumpers :) - from the Communications Decency Act discussion on the linux-kernel mailing list From cph Sat Jan 22 07:08:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA04959 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 07:08:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10716; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 07:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 07:07:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10642; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 07:07:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10628; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 07:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (192.134.240.50 -> uhbhic.uhb.fr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 07:07:52 -0500 Received: from nfwenaxa (cb1341.rec.uhb.fr [172.16.5.11]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with SMTP id NAA14693 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:07:48 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <000c01bf64d1$de6ea980$0b0510ac@nfwenaxa> From: "Sylvestre Meininger" To: Subject: TP 770 and DVD Express Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:11:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF64DA.3EBA2D20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Message en plusieurs parties et au format MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF64DA.3EBA2D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello to the list. =20 IBM just sent me a copy of Mediamatics' DVDExpress. I installed it and = selected Region 1 when prompted. Out of curiosity, I tried to use a = little program that I got on the Net which enabled Region change with = the infamous Zoran's SoftDVD player. It didn't work (complete reboot = when trying to play any Region). So I reinstalled DVDExpress and chose Region 2. Everything worked. So I = reinstalled it and chose Region 1 again, and everything still works. Is = this normal ? I mean is it so easy to bypass the Region protection with = DVDExpress : just reinstall when you want to change Region ? =20 Or am I heading for a small catastrophe here (like one can only = reinstall DVDExpress up to X times, then one has to do a full restore = >from the TP Restore CD) ? If my last supposition is true, does anyone know of a downloadable = utility that enables Region change with DVDExpress ? By the way, when displaying in "Full Screen" mode, I can see a 2-3 = pixels wide pink line on top of the screen. There seems to be no way of = getting rid of it (I'm running the latest Mpeg Drivers). Sorry for the lengthy post. I'd appreciate any help. = Sylvestre Meininger ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF64DA.3EBA2D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello to the list.    =
 
IBM just sent me a copy of = Mediamatics'=20 DVDExpress. I installed it and selected Region 1 when prompted. Out of=20 curiosity, I tried to use a little program that I got on the Net which = enabled=20 Region change with the infamous Zoran's SoftDVD player. It didn't work = (complete=20 reboot when trying to play any Region).
So I reinstalled DVDExpress and = chose Region 2.=20 Everything worked. So I reinstalled it and chose Region 1 again, and = everything=20 still works. Is this normal ? I mean is it so easy to bypass the Region=20 protection with DVDExpress : just reinstall when you want to change = Region=20 ? 
Or am I heading for a small = catastrophe here=20 (like one can only reinstall DVDExpress up to X times, then one has to = do a full=20 restore from the TP Restore CD) ?
 
If my last supposition is true, does = anyone know=20 of a downloadable utility that enables Region change with DVDExpress=20 ?
 
By the way, when displaying in "Full = Screen" mode, I=20 can see a 2-3 pixels wide pink line on top of the screen. There seems to = be no=20 way of getting rid of it (I'm running the latest Mpeg = Drivers).
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF64DA.3EBA2D20-- From cph Sat Jan 22 09:49:50 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA05315 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 09:49:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15343; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 09:49:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 09:48:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15228; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 09:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15212; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 09:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (216.254.0.2 -> grace.speakeasy.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 09:48:51 -0500 Received: from lrowland-0.dsl.speakeasy.net (lrowland-0.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.23.28]) by grace.speakeasy.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA20718 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:48:47 -0800 From: lrowland@speakeasy.org (LarryR) To: Subject: cmd:unsubscribe Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:48:41 GMT Message-ID: <3889c332.4498049@mail.speakeasy.org> References: <000001bf6237$656367c0$22178918@TP760.TECHGAP.NET> In-Reply-To: <000001bf6237$656367c0$22178918@TP760.TECHGAP.NET> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id JAA05316 From cph Sat Jan 22 12:47:12 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA05778 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:47:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22173; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:45:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22013; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22000; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:45:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (147.225.51.39 -> mosquito.ny.ans.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:45:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (bkomar@localhost) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA03947; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:45:33 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mosquito.ny.ans.net: bkomar owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:45:33 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: LarryR cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: cmd:unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <3889c332.4498049@mail.speakeasy.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, LarryR wrote: > > In order to List-Unsubscribe: mailto:thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Subject=unsubscribe Have a nice day, Bruce Komar From cph Sat Jan 22 13:31:53 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA05975 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:31:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24408; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:31:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24324; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:31:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from pescado.nosc.mil (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24308; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:31:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pescado.nosc.mil (128.49.4.90 -> pescado.nosc.mil) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:31:06 -0500 Received: from nosc.mil (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pescado.nosc.mil (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id FOR23900.D9A; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:30:45 -0800 From: "Derek Seaman" To: Randal Whittle Cc: marvin@homer.njit.edu, TP List Message-ID: <6afc56f87e.6f87e6afc5@nosc.mil> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:30:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: RE: power adapter for airplanes X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I fly Delta a lot and see the adaptors. They are on 737-800s (all classes of service), they are on all transoceaniac planes (for 777s in all classes of service), and atleast in Business elite on the MD-11 and 767-ERs. I haven't flown in coach on those, so I don't know if they have 'em or not. Some of the newer 767s or 757s in first class have them. American airlines has them in many of their planes in coach/first class. Delta L- 1011s (Hawaii flights), won't have them. ----- Original Message ----- From: Randal Whittle Date: Friday, January 21, 2000 8:16 am Subject: RE: power adapter for airplanes > Actually, I'd like to know what airline you were flying > on. I > keep hearing about these airline power outlets and I keep seeing > the > adapters for sale, but I never have been on an airline where the > adapters > are available--and I fly 2 or 3 times per month. Nothing on > United, > American, Delta, or Continental (certainly not Southwest!), at > least not on > the planes I've been on. > > Is it because I don't pay to fly 1st Class? > > - Randy Whittle > > > At 06:10 AM 01/21/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >This is an Empower adapter. There are several manufacturers and > they can be > >found at CompUSA and also at the big online computer stores. > They work > >really well. > > > >The other day, I was flying on an airplane in which every seat > >had some kind of power outlet that looked like a car's cigarette > >lighter hole. Does anyone know what kind of adapter I need > >to plug my laptop into this outlet and where I could get it? > > > >I noticed that IBM has "car power adapters" > >(see http://servicepac.mainz.ibm.com/eprmhtml/epr2f/7382.htm ) > >but I can't find anyone who sells it. > > From cph Sat Jan 22 14:36:50 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA06164 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:36:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27275; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:31:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27187; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27172; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:31:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (198.144.192.5 -> shell.tsoft.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:31:40 -0500 Received: from NewPad (m205-90.dsl.tsoft.com [198.144.205.90]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA06820; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 11:31:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Sandy Meltzer" , "TP List" Subject: RE: Thinkpad 600X at 650 Mhz with Windows 2000 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 11:31:39 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000121130023.00d97b90@pop.ncal.verio.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: > From: Sandy Meltzer [mailto:sandy@sandy.com] > > I'm a long time subscriber to this list, but don't read all posts to it. I > know IBM dropped the 770-series ThinkPads (I still love my 770ED), but I > don't see anything that will replace it. I agree with Mark Bell, after > using the 14.1" TFT display on my 770ED for over a year, I wouldn't be > happy with a smaller display...especially since I'm a graphics artist and > need as much screen real estate as possible. You wouldn't lose any screen real estate by going to the smaller display. They're both 1024x768 displays, so they show the exact same image. It's just the physical size that's a tiny bit different, not the number of pixels. You might prefer the larger image, of course, but just because it's bigger, not because it shows any more of what you're working on. -Mike From cph Sat Jan 22 16:15:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA06675 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:15:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02276; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:15:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:11:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01943; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:11:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01930; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.18 -> cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:11:57 -0500 Received: from default - 63.27.185.22 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:11:57 -0800 Message-ID: <001501bf651c$410b1c00$16b91b3f@default> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Think" Subject: Thanks! Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:04:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: You guy's hit the nail on the head with Laplink, they are all over ebay for nothing! One more question, I know this is off topic but I'd like to build a CD burner to make copies of this CD I'm making. Anyone that knows about this stuff, could you please contact me directly? Thanks again, and again! Brad Burean Boogerware Inc. From cph Sat Jan 22 18:11:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA07067 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:11:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07198; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:11:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:10:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07005; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from m2.pp.htv.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06983; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:10:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from m2.pp.htv.fi (212.90.64.98 -> m2ep.pp.htv.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:10:03 -0500 Received: from m7.pp.htv.fi (m7.pp.htv.fi [212.90.64.22]) by m2.pp.htv.fi (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA00555 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 01:09:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from pp.htv.fi (cs77030.pp.htv.fi [212.90.77.30]) by m7.pp.htv.fi (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA28594 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 01:09:54 +0200 (EET) Sender: andreas@pp.htv.fi Message-ID: <388A38B3.4DC47C95@pp.htv.fi> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 01:09:39 +0200 From: Andreas Forsblom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: From cph Sat Jan 22 19:56:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA07408 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:56:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12167; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:55:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:54:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11987; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11967; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:54:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (129.10.116.51 -> amber.ccs.neu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:54:45 -0500 Received: from zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id e0N0sXH27154; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:54:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id e0N0sWZ01513; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:54:32 -0500 (EST) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: "William Armstrong" Cc: "TP List" Subject: Re: power adapter for airplanes References: From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 22 Jan 2000 19:54:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: "William Armstrong"'s message of "Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:10:19 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: "William Armstrong" writes: > Come on! Of course these things are only available in First and Business > Class. Nope, not true. I've only flown coach and I periodically get power. They key is "not all rows in coach" are wired (at least on American). Peace, dNb From cph Sat Jan 22 20:04:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA07426 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:04:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12851; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:03:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:03:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12772; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:03:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12759; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:03:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (129.10.116.51 -> amber.ccs.neu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:03:38 -0500 Received: from zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id e0N13bH27366; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:03:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id e0N13ah01582; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:03:36 -0500 (EST) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: "Sylvestre Meininger" Cc: Subject: Re: TP 770 and DVD Express References: <000c01bf64d1$de6ea980$0b0510ac@nfwenaxa> From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 22 Jan 2000 20:03:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Sylvestre Meininger"'s message of "Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:11:50 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: "Sylvestre Meininger" writes: > selected Region 1 when prompted. Out of curiosity, I tried to use a = > little program that I got on the Net which enabled Region change with = > the infamous Zoran's SoftDVD player. It didn't work (complete reboot = > when trying to play any Region). I suspect your hack was program specific. > So I reinstalled DVDExpress and chose Region 2. Everything worked. So I = > reinstalled it and chose Region 1 again, and everything still works. Is = > this normal ? I mean is it so easy to bypass the Region protection with = > DVDExpress : just reinstall when you want to change Region ? =20 > Or am I heading for a small catastrophe here (like one can only = > reinstall DVDExpress up to X times, then one has to do a full restore = > from the TP Restore CD) ? The DVD standard says that a player is allowed to switch regions 5 times (after which it cannot be changed). I don't know where/how this particular player enforces this limit (if at all), but you could have just 3 more changes available. I have heard of DVD cards which keep this info in hardware on the card, so it may not even be possible to nuke the machine and get your five chances back. Peace, dNb From cph Sat Jan 22 20:45:24 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA07532 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:45:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14993; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:45:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:44:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14902; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14881; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.42 -> mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:44:43 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.67.18.215]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000123014440.STRL13663@701c> for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 01:44:40 +0000 Message-ID: <006001bf6543$69b13aa0$d712430c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: IBM 730T Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:42:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. The 730T is somewhat fickle about the PCMCIA flash card. I have discovered that if you have a version of OS that is the same from the laptop and the tablet it works best. I do know that frys electronics has a driver disk for the butterfly group PCMCIA cards. I have not tried it but it might work for you. From cph Sat Jan 22 22:57:24 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA07963 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 22:57:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19363; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 22:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 22:55:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19203; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 22:55:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19185; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 22:55:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 22 Jan 2000 22:55:08 -0500 Received: from worldnet.att.net ([12.72.56.159]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with ESMTP id <20000123035506.KMQK7433@worldnet.att.net> for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 03:55:06 +0000 Message-ID: <388A7B58.DEB40BAC@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:54:00 -0800 From: Frank Janik Reply-To: f.s.janik@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-WNS2.5 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: care and feeding of Li-Ion Battery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Thank you John Great Article on Batteries, I Looked For Hours Yesterday For Some Info on Batteries, came up empty handed. I Submitted this to the list last night and in a matter of minutes i had a Link. This is a Great List. Thank You Again. Uncle Frank From cph Sun Jan 23 00:51:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA08287 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 00:51:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23789; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 00:49:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 00:47:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23629; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 00:47:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23615; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 00:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (206.141.239.142 -> mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 00:47:52 -0500 Received: from GeorgeNeurauter ([206.141.221.4]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20000123054752.HOU13817.mailhost.chi.ameritech.net@GeorgeNeurauter>; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 23:47:52 -0600 Message-ID: <002101bf6564$dc8c9940$5f60fea9@GeorgeNeurauter> From: "George Neurauter" To: "Chuck S." , "Thinkpad List" References: <003601bf64b0$8245d6e0$22a3aec7@thinkpad1721i> Subject: Re: IBM Reinstates Extended Warranty Offering for i Series TP Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 23:44:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck S. To: Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 2:11 AM Subject: IBM Reinstates Extended Warranty Offering for i Series TP > When I tried to buy an extended warranty in August '99 on my 6 month old > i1721, I was told that extended warranties were no longer available for the > i Series. A few of you also reported the same problem. IBM was polite > enough about it, and offered me 3 free software support calls to appease me. > A freind of mine was in a similar situation, and after calling for serveral > months, was told that IBM reinstated their extended warranty on the i > Series. So, I was able to purchase a 2 year extended depot service for $99. Hmmm....makes me wonder about whether IBM wanted to run out the 1 year warranty on the earlier i Series (including my i1410) and then reinstate the warranties when the warranty was past since you can only buy the extended warranties while your computer is under warranty. Oh well, I guess my G.E. (Circuit City) extended warranty will have to do. Well, if anything breaks on my laptop that can't be fixed, the warranty stipulates that they will replace it will a comparable new computer. I guess I can live with that. George From cph Sun Jan 23 01:41:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA08402 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 01:41:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26858; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 01:41:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 01:40:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26716; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 01:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from caliban.dogmead.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26703; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 01:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from caliban.dogmead.com (198.73.240.1 -> caliban.dogmead.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 01:40:50 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by caliban.dogmead.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA19846 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 01:40:48 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <200001230640.BAA19846@caliban.dogmead.com> Subject: [TP770] Win2K DVD decoder driver now available To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (ThinkPad Mailing List) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 100 01:40:48 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: A Windows 2000 driver for the 770's hardware DVD decoder has appeared on IBM's support web site. It works with the stock DVD player that ships with Windows 2000. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@dogmead.com From cph Sun Jan 23 03:00:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA08512 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 03:00:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00118; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 02:59:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 02:58:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29822; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 02:58:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29809; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 02:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (132.187.1.7 -> wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 02:58:44 -0500 Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.2.12]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8/uniwue-MM-1.0) with ESMTP id IAA14222 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 08:58:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 23 Jan 00 08:58:41 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.44); 23 Jan 00 08:58:11 +0200 Received: from mail.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.78) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 23 Jan 00 08:58:07 +0200 Received: from babylon5 (babylon5.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.2] ) by mail.stelarcom.de (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 08:53:59 -0100 Message-Id: <200001230853.5931466.6@mail.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 08:53:58 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Alexander Wagner" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.1999 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DVD on OS/2? List-Unsubscribe: Hi! How could I use a DVD on OS/2 together with a 760ED? Any chances? A friend asked me for some infos, but I never did anything with DVD... -- CU/2 (( In the beginning was The Word Alexander Wagner )) and The Word was Content-type: text/plain Team OS/2 Franken (( _________________________________________________________________________ -=[ Team OS/2 Germany #294 ]=- Please use only A.Wagner@TeamOS2.de or A.Wagner@Bigfoot.de for replies, even if some other addresses may appear. Thanks! --> Get my PGP-key with Subject: Request for PGP-Keys From cph Sun Jan 23 11:34:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA19172 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:34:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25142; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:33:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:32:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24996; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.clinet.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24951; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.clinet.fi (194.100.0.12 -> smtp.clinet.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:32:19 -0500 Received: from tp701 (255-7.dyn.clinet.fi [194.100.255.7]) by smtp.clinet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA45259 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:13:39 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200001231613.SAA45259@smtp.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:32:10 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <200001230853.5931466.6@mail.stelarcom.de> Subject: Re: DVD on OS/2? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 at 06:29 PM you, "Alexander Wagner" , said: >How could I use a DVD on OS/2 together with a 760ED? Any chances? A >friend asked me for some infos, but I never did anything with DVD... -- AFAIK you can only use your DVD drive as a glorified CDROM-drive under OS/2 (unfortunately). There are no native software decoders for playing DVD movies and no native OS/2 drivers for the Margi DVD-to-Go hardware decoder. Too bad. Dominique From cph Sun Jan 23 12:43:13 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA19341 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:43:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28504; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:40:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28350; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28337; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:40:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (207.155.198.79 -> darius.concentric.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:40:46 -0500 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id MAA22499; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:40:45 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from RJWLaptop1 (w066.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.66]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id MAA25334; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:40:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000123092609.00a9ded0@pop3.iceka1.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka1.com@pop3.iceka1.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 09:28:54 -0800 To: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman), TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: power adapter for airplanes In-Reply-To: References: <"William Armstrong"'s message of "Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:10:15 -0500"> <4.2.0.58.20000121123501.00a8a770@pop3.iceka1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 07:26 PM 01/22/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Sure, here are the row numbers per plane: > >MD80 7-12 14,16,18,20-22,24,26,28 >757 9-14, 17, 18, 22,25,27,30,33 >727 6-10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24 >737 9-15, 18, 21,24,27 >MD11 20-23,24,25 (outboard only),26,29,32 >777 center: 20-26,29,32,35 out: 27,30,33,36 >A300 4,5,7,8-11 out: 14,17,20,23 THANK YOU! I'm flying on American in about 10 days and looking at this info, it appears I'll be in Row 10 on an MD80, so I'll have access to an Empower outlet (I hope). I think I'll go buy one of these adapters. I saw one at a local store for $119, I think made by Port. Do you (or does anyone on the list) have any recommendations? - Randy Whittle From cph Sun Jan 23 13:40:13 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA19563 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 13:40:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01239; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 13:38:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 13:37:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01106; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 13:37:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01093; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 13:37:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 13:37:53 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.18.3]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000123183751.UJZY2478@compaq>; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:37:51 +0000 Message-ID: <388B4A5A.2D11@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 13:37:14 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Tyhurst CC: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: [TP770] Win2K DVD decoder driver now available References: <200001230640.BAA19846@caliban.dogmead.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Does it have any brightness controls? That is the biggest shortcomming of the SoftDVD player Tim Tyhurst wrote: > > A Windows 2000 driver for the 770's hardware DVD decoder has appeared > on IBM's support web site. It works with the stock DVD player that > ships with Windows 2000. > > -- > Tim Tyhurst tim@dogmead.com From cph Sun Jan 23 14:20:04 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA19674 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:20:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03304; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:18:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03184; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:18:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03168; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:18:32 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15628 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:15:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001231915.OAA15628@astro.cs.utk.edu> X-URI: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ X-PGP-Key: 2F07A741 ; 78 15 8E 8B C0 06 5D D1 BC 08 05 7F 42 81 7E 90 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [admin] thinkpad list posting policy from: thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:15:08 -0500 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu List-Unsubscribe: for what it's worth: the thinkpad list doesn't accept mail with invalid return addresses. if you post a message with an invalid From address, it will be discarded, usually without any notice whatsoever. Keith From cph Sun Jan 23 15:28:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA19885 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:28:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06368; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:27:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:26:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06208; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:26:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from caliban.dogmead.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06192; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from caliban.dogmead.com (198.73.240.1 -> caliban.dogmead.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:26:19 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by caliban.dogmead.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01991; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:26:14 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <200001232026.PAA01991@caliban.dogmead.com> Subject: Re: [TP770] Win2K DVD decoder driver now available To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net Date: Sun, 23 Jan 100 15:26:14 -0500 (EST) Cc: tim@dogmead.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <388B4A5A.2D11@worldnet.att.net> from "Bruce Markowitz" at Jan 23, 0 01:37:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > Does it have any brightness controls? That is the biggest shortcomming > of the SoftDVD player No -- the stock Windows 2000 DVD player is pretty minimal. At this point, though, I'm just glad to have anything that works, to save me having to boot Win98. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@dogmead.com From cph Sun Jan 23 16:11:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA20051 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:11:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08745; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:09:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:09:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08646; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:09:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08632; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (24.25.227.37 -> hnlmail3.hawaii.rr.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:09:15 -0500 Received: from lava.net ([24.25.253.37]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:08:08 -1000 Message-ID: <388B6E39.B66FE2E9@lava.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:10:17 -1000 From: Keith Wong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: TP List Subject: Re: power adapter for airplanes References: <"William Armstrong"'s message of "Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:10:15 -0500"> <4.2.0.58.20000121123501.00a8a770@pop3.iceka1.com> <4.2.0.58.20000123092609.00a9ded0@pop3.iceka1.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: --You know just before this string started I saw a power adapter for thinkpads that could be used in both air and auto power ports. I've been trying to look for that site again, but I've been having no luck. It was on a site that sold mobile electronics ffor laptops and PDA's. Anyone else seen something like that out there? I'll post as soon as I find it again. --Keith Wong Honolulu, Hawaii Randal Whittle wrote: > At 07:26 PM 01/22/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >Sure, here are the row numbers per plane: > > > >MD80 7-12 14,16,18,20-22,24,26,28 > >757 9-14, 17, 18, 22,25,27,30,33 > >727 6-10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24 > >737 9-15, 18, 21,24,27 > >MD11 20-23,24,25 (outboard only),26,29,32 > >777 center: 20-26,29,32,35 out: 27,30,33,36 > >A300 4,5,7,8-11 out: 14,17,20,23 > > THANK YOU! > > I'm flying on American in about 10 days and looking at this info, > it appears I'll be in Row 10 on an MD80, so I'll have access to an Empower > outlet (I hope). I think I'll go buy one of these adapters. > > I saw one at a local store for $119, I think made by Port. Do you > (or does anyone on the list) have any recommendations? > > - Randy Whittle From cph Sun Jan 23 16:15:17 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA20087 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:15:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09254; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:13:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09141; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:13:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot007.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09127; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:13:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot007.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.107 -> pilot007.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:13:39 -0500 Received: from andres (pm452-20.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.126]) by pilot007.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA66806; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:13:14 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000123161332.009fc210@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:13:32 -0500 To: Keith Wong From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: power adapter for airplanes Cc: TP List In-Reply-To: <388B6E39.B66FE2E9@lava.net> References: <"William Armstrong"'s message of "Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:10:15 -0500"> <4.2.0.58.20000121123501.00a8a770@pop3.iceka1.com> <4.2.0.58.20000123092609.00a9ded0@pop3.iceka1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Look for Targus. At a place like Circuit City or some such place, I saw a "universal" adaptor system they had, which they said worked on airplanes and via car cigarette lighter sockets. I'm pretty sure others make them too, but I saw the Targus one, sitting on a rack in a blister pack, price around $119.00 (which seemed too high to me). --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 11:10 AM 1/23/2000 -1000, Keith Wong wrote: >--You know just before this string started I saw a power adapter for thinkpads >that could be used in both air and auto power ports. I've been trying to look >for that site again, but I've been having no luck. It was on a site that sold >mobile electronics ffor laptops and PDA's. Anyone else seen something like >that out there? I'll post as soon as I find it again. > > --Keith Wong > Honolulu, Hawaii > >Randal Whittle wrote: > >> At 07:26 PM 01/22/2000 -0500, you wrote: >> >Sure, here are the row numbers per plane: >> > >> >MD80 7-12 14,16,18,20-22,24,26,28 >> >757 9-14, 17, 18, 22,25,27,30,33 >> >727 6-10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24 >> >737 9-15, 18, 21,24,27 >> >MD11 20-23,24,25 (outboard only),26,29,32 >> >777 center: 20-26,29,32,35 out: 27,30,33,36 >> >A300 4,5,7,8-11 out: 14,17,20,23 >> >> THANK YOU! >> >> I'm flying on American in about 10 days and looking at this info, >> it appears I'll be in Row 10 on an MD80, so I'll have access to an Empower >> outlet (I hope). I think I'll go buy one of these adapters. >> >> I saw one at a local store for $119, I think made by Port. Do you >> (or does anyone on the list) have any recommendations? >> >> - Randy Whittle > > > From cph Sun Jan 23 16:26:17 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA20170 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:26:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10177; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:24:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10032; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:24:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10009; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:24:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.30 -> cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:24:09 -0500 Received: from default - 63.27.206.21 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 13:24:06 -0800 Message-ID: <000c01bf65e7$1991cea0$15ce1b3f@default> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Think" Subject: 560 Parts Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:16:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I need to order a few parts for my 560, the floppy drive port cover and a new PCMCIA bay. I've got the IBM part numbers from their site, but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to order them! Any ideas? Still looking for a 560 TFT display. Brad From cph Sun Jan 23 17:10:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA20350 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:10:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12774; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:10:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:09:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12643; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:09:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12615; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:09:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (129.10.116.51 -> amber.ccs.neu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:09:16 -0500 Received: from zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id e0NM8tH27168; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:08:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id e0NM8tV03159; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:08:55 -0500 (EST) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP List Subject: Re: power adapter for airplanes References: <"William Armstrong"'s message of "Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:10:15 -0500"> <4.2.0.58.20000121123501.00a8a770@pop3.iceka1.com> <4.2.0.58.20000123092609.00a9ded0@pop3.iceka1.com> From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 23 Jan 2000 17:08:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: Randal Whittle's message of "Sun, 23 Jan 2000 09:28:54 -0800" Message-ID: Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: Randal Whittle writes: > >Sure, here are the row numbers per plane: (note: I sent along a little bit of a disclaimer about that info when I sent it to Randal. The short of it was "this is the info I received a while back, it may not be true any more, and it is only true for American Airlines. Your mileage is likely to vary") > I saw one at a local store for $119, I think made by Port. Do you > (or does anyone on the list) have any recommendations? I'd recommend the Port universal (not sure of the model number). If you don't buy the universal, you will need to match it to a specific adapter (even then, check the Port site to make sure your model laptop is covered). I'd also recommend being prepared to run on battery. Good luck! Peace, dNb From cph Sun Jan 23 17:41:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA20432 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:41:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14430; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:40:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14278; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:40:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14265; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU (156.26.1.1 -> WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:40:27 -0500 Received: from WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU by WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3148) id <01JL1U8JD58G8WXWJY@WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:40:03 CST Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:40:03 -0600 (CST) From: Jon Subject: com & port To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I couldnt set up my infrared port to print on the 770. It says that the port is used by another prog. Can someone literate me or point me to some resources that deals with managing all those com, ports and IRQ please What is going on with www.ebay.com ? almost all the time the final price is higher than online retailers prices !! COuld it be that a same person has many ebay accounts and been placing bids on the items that they are aactually selling to jack the price up? Its fairly easy to have multiple accounts if you register with your work place email and home ISP. From cph Sun Jan 23 18:20:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA20573 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:20:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16580; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:18:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16455; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:18:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16430; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:18:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:18:17 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax7.vramp.net [198.138.8.70]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA22495; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:18:01 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Jon" , Subject: RE: com & port Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:18:27 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Jon [mailto:jfwee@WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU] wrote: > What is going on with www.ebay.com ? almost all the time the final price > is higher than online retailers prices !! COuld it be that a same person > has many ebay accounts and been placing bids on the items that they are > aactually selling to jack the price up? Its fairly easy to have multiple > accounts if you register with your work place email and home ISP. I think you're failing to take into account that the vast majority of folks are morons! Seriously, we had a thread on this recently and came to the conclusion that A) people are ill prepared as to values when they bid and B) they seem to sometimes get caught up in the thrill of the hunt. Sorry, I can't help with your IR port setting problem. What OS are you using and did you set up the port in BIOS? Regards, James From cph Sun Jan 23 18:29:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA20586 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:29:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17183; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:27:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:27:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17100; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:27:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17087; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:27:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.28 -> cpimssmtpu07.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:27:19 -0500 Received: from thinkpad600x - 216.160.144.161 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:27:18 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Richard A. Bilancia" To: "'Thinkpad list'" Subject: RE: [TP600X] Win98 Explorer gets extremely sluggish when navigating folders Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:27:11 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I too recent acquired a 600X and have noticed similar behavior. In my case the system seems to "hang" looking for the floppy when it is not connected. Anyone have any ideas how to avoid looking for the floppy with Win98? TIA, Rich Bilancia > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken [mailto:kenzo@free-music.com] > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 7:38 AM > To: Thinkpad list > Subject: [TP600X] Win98 Explorer gets extremely sluggish when > navigating > folders > > > Running Windows 98 on my new Thinkpad 600X. > > When I navigate around using the explorer (either via the > desktop, or via the Windows Explorer program), after I flip > through a bunch of folders consecutively (i.e. I move through > a folder hierarchy, backing up, moving ahead to another > folder, backing up, etc.), the response time on each flip > gets progressively slower (although not completely > consistently) until it can take 15 seconds just to bring up > an individual folder display. It brings my system to the > point of unusability in a matter of a minute of navigating, > and I have to restart to get any performance back. > > The machine came preinstalled with Windows 98 and IE 5. > > I have tried turning off Active Desktop. I have tried > turning on and off most of the options under Folder Options. > I have TweakUI98, and have tried playing with most of those > options. Nothing seems to have any effect. > > I'm not running any background programs that I know of > (besides the Thinkpad Ultrabay and Trackpoint servers). > > I have no idea where this problem is coming from. I've used > the IE 5 Explorer shell under Win95B, and have never seen > this behavior. It's a very serious problem. Like I said, it > gets rapidly progressively worse the more folders I've > flipped through since starting the OS, to the point where the > whole Explorer comes to a crawl (although the rest of the > machine continues to run fine). > > Thanks greatly for any help, > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com > From cph Sun Jan 23 18:35:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA20613 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:35:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17683; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:33:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17602; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:33:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pike.sover.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17589; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:33:45 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from pike.sover.net (209.198.87.34 -> pike.sover.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:33:45 -0500 Received: from sover.net (arc3a67.bf.sover.net [209.198.83.69]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA27871; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:33:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001232333.SAA27871@pike.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) sover.net from arc3a67.bf.sover.net [209.198.83.69] 209.198.83.69 Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:33:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:27:54 -0500 To: Randal Whittle , TP List In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000123092609.00a9ded0@pop3.iceka1.com> Subject: Re: power adapter for airplanes X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.69 b68 List-Unsubscribe: Randal Whittle said: >Empower outlet (I hope). I think I'll go buy one of these adapters. > I saw one at a local store for $119, I think made by Port. Do >you (or does anyone on the list) have any recommendations? I think I saw one on the PC Connection website that theyindicated was from IBM or TP Proven for $79. _____________ Ed Letourneau From cph Sun Jan 23 18:49:39 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA20665 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:49:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18681; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:47:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18567; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:47:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18554; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:47:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (129.10.116.51 -> amber.ccs.neu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:47:39 -0500 Received: from zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id e0NNlTH00711; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id e0NNlTh03274; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:47:29 -0500 (EST) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: Keith Wong Cc: TP List Subject: Re: power adapter for airplanes References: <"William Armstrong"'s message of "Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:10:15 -0500"> <4.2.0.58.20000121123501.00a8a770@pop3.iceka1.com> <4.2.0.58.20000123092609.00a9ded0@pop3.iceka1.com> <388B6E39.B66FE2E9@lava.net> From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 23 Jan 2000 18:47:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: Keith Wong's message of "Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:10:17 -1000" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: Keith Wong writes: > --You know just before this string started I saw a power adapter for > thinkpads that could be used in both air and auto power ports. That's the Port universal (www.port.com), I'm pretty sure. Peace, dNb From cph Sun Jan 23 19:18:36 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA20734 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:18:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20852; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:17:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:17:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20746; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:17:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from masada.royl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20733; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:17:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from masada.royl.com (208.240.192.9 -> masada.royl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:17:15 -0500 Received: from HEBRON (northpoint-103-163.dsl.veriosd.net [209.75.103.163]) by masada.royl.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 39 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:03:01 -0800 From: "Stephen Hosmer" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: RE: [TP770] Win2K DVD decoder driver now available Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:18:10 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: <200001232026.PAA01991@caliban.dogmead.com> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I donwloaded the new Win2K driver for the DVD, but it gives me a message about not being able to display on the screen. It says that either 1) there is not enough video memory 2)another app is utilizing the needed resources or 3) the video driver is incompatible. Does anyone have it working, and if so HOW? -----Original Message----- From: Tim Tyhurst [mailto:tim@dogmead.com] Sent: Friday, July 10, 2893 3:44 PM To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net Cc: tim@dogmead.com; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP770] Win2K DVD decoder driver now available > Does it have any brightness controls? That is the biggest shortcomming > of the SoftDVD player No -- the stock Windows 2000 DVD player is pretty minimal. At this point, though, I'm just glad to have anything that works, to save me having to boot Win98. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@dogmead.com From cph Sun Jan 23 19:31:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA20769 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:31:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22356; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22097; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22048; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001240030.TAA22048@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.35) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:01 -0500 Received: from slip139-92-204-14.vi.at.ibm.net ([139.92.204.14]) by prserv.net (out5) with SMTP id <2000012309383924300b9g33e>; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 09:38:40 +0000 From: "Siegfried Hanisch" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 10:37:47 +0200 Reply-To: "Siegfried Hanisch" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP600 and 18GB HD and Linux List-Unsubscribe: Hi I want to order the IBM 18GB HD drive for my TP600. Are there any troubles to be expected? (I use RedHat Linux 6.1 and SuSE 6.3 besides Win95) Thanx in advance for any hints! Greetings # Quick to judge Siegfried Hanisch # Quick to anger =========================================# Slow to understand siegfried.hanisch@hanisch.com # Ignorance and prejudice ssaver@hanisch.com (ScreenSaver support) # And fear =========================================# Walk hand in hand http://www.hanisch.com # Rush - "Witch Hunt" From cph Sun Jan 23 19:31:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA20773 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:31:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22360; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22125; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22079; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (140.174.2.1 -> toad.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:03 -0500 Received: from ken2 (5.new-york-13-14rs.ny.dial-access.att.net [12.78.197.5]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13581; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:29:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000123192504.00978f00@mail.ny.viant.com> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Kenzo's Useful Mail Client v3 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:29:35 -0500 To: Rich Bilancia , Thinkpad list From: Ken Subject: Ignoring floppy drive (was: [TP600X] Win98 Explorer gets sluggish with folders) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 04:27 PM 1/23/00 -0700, Richard A. Bilancia wrote: >I too recent acquired a 600X and have noticed similar behavior. In my case >the system seems to "hang" looking for the floppy when it is not connected. >Anyone have any ideas how to avoid looking for the floppy with Win98? This doesn't sound like the same behavior or problem as the one I was talking about, involving progressively slower and slower navigation through folders. I still haven't solved this problem, and it's making the machine terrible to use. As for your problem, I forget if this works, but you might try TweakUI (try to find the non-buggy 98 version, as opposed to both the buggy 98 version and the 95 version), and then uncheck drive A on the "My Computer" tab. Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph Sun Jan 23 19:31:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA20777 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:31:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22352; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22075; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22054; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.35) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:30:01 -0500 Received: from oscar ([32.101.226.203]) by prserv.net (out5) with SMTP id <2000012323090624300da0vte>; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:09:08 +0000 Message-ID: <001301bf65f6$773b5300$cbe26520@oscar> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin" From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Brad Burean" , "Think" References: <000c01bf65e7$1991cea0$15ce1b3f@default> Subject: Re: 560 Parts Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:06:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Call IBM Parts at 800 772-2227 ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Burean To: Think Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 2:16 PM Subject: 560 Parts > I need to order a few parts for my 560, the floppy drive port cover and a > new PCMCIA bay. I've got the > IBM part numbers from their site, but I'll be damned if I can figure out how > to order them! > > Any ideas? > > Still looking for a 560 TFT display. > > > Brad > > > > From cph Sun Jan 23 19:53:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA20829 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:53:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24137; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:51:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:51:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24023; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:51:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24010; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (192.41.27.30 -> cavecreations.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:51:01 -0500 Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id TAA05479; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:50:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:50:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001240050.TAA05479@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: siegfried.hanisch@hanisch.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600 and 18GB HD and Linux List-Unsubscribe: > I want to order the IBM 18GB HD drive for my TP600. Are there > any troubles to be expected? (I use RedHat Linux 6.1 and SuSE 6.3 > besides Win95) Redhat Linux 6.0 cannot properly auto-detect the C/H/S settings of drives over 8gb. They may have changed for 6.1. If linux refuses to autodetect the geometry of /dev/hda, then read on. When you set up Linux the first time and get the boot: prompt (and later in /etc/lilo.conf), make sure you append the lines: linux hda=c,h,s (where c,h,s) is the cylinders, heads, sectors In /etc/lilo.conf: append=hda=c,h,s should work. You must have the c/h/s figures using LBA. For instance, my 12.1gb drive is specified as 16383,16,63 (linux claims the drive is 8g), but if I use 1558,240,63 the figures are all correct. If you cannot get the c/h/s numbers, call up the HD manufacturer or check their web site. I was banging my head for hours before I figured it all out. -Al From cph Sun Jan 23 20:42:10 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA20987 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:42:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26492; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:41:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:39:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26287; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:39:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26274; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:39:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.17 -> mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:39:47 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.12.105]) by mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000124013944.LHYE12791@compaq>; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 01:39:44 +0000 Message-ID: <388BAD38.7794@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:39:04 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Hosmer CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: [TP770] Win2K DVD decoder driver now available References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Reduce your desktop to 256 colors Stephen Hosmer wrote: > > I donwloaded the new Win2K driver for the DVD, but it gives me a message > about not being able to display on the screen. It says that either 1) there > is not enough video memory 2)another app is utilizing the needed resources > or 3) the video driver is incompatible. > > Does anyone have it working, and if so HOW? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Tyhurst [mailto:tim@dogmead.com] > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2893 3:44 PM > To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net > Cc: tim@dogmead.com; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: [TP770] Win2K DVD decoder driver now available > > > Does it have any brightness controls? That is the biggest shortcomming > > of the SoftDVD player > > No -- the stock Windows 2000 DVD player is pretty minimal. At this point, > though, I'm just glad to have anything that works, to save me having to > boot Win98. > > -- > Tim Tyhurst tim@dogmead.com From cph Sun Jan 23 20:54:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA21015 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:54:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27366; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:52:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:52:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27273; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.sivco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27260; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:52:03 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail.sivco.com (209.91.123.78 -> h-209-91-123-78.gen.cadvision.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:52:03 -0500 Subject: TP Airline power adapters To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.1a August 17, 1999 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:51:35 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on tigger/Sivco(Release 5.0.1a|August 17, 1999) at 01/23/2000 06:51:31 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id UAA21016 Is there such thing as 'standard' power adapter? I mean, is the plug and the power is the same in all airlines, all airplane types (Boeing, Airbus, MD) , and in the US & Europe ? (Lets assume there is a pug on the plain..8:) Geza Geza Szivos mailto:Geza.Szivos@SIVCO.com System Analyst/eDBA Certified VisualAge for C++ Object Oriented Developer, Certified WebSphere, DB2 and VisualAge Java Associate Developer, VisualWarehouse Specialist, Certified IBM OS/2 Engineer, Certified Warp Server Engineer SIVCO Inc. «Calgary, AB» «Buffalo, NY» «Olympia, WA» Visit our web page http://www.sivco.com Head office: 118 Arbour Summit Close NW Calgary, Alberta Canada T3G 3W2 Toll Free Call: (877) 700-2600 Toll Free Fax: (877) 547-4741 In Calgary call (403) 208-2600 Cellular (360) 481-2828 From cph Sun Jan 23 21:40:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA21146 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:40:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29823; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:38:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29714; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29701; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:38:41 -0500 Received: from worldnet.att.net ([12.72.59.122]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with ESMTP id <20000124023839.MICM5516@worldnet.att.net> for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 02:38:39 +0000 Message-ID: <388BBD1D.6F0DCE76@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:46:53 -0800 From: Frank Janik Reply-To: f.s.janik@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-WNS2.5 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: registry cleaners References: <388BBB74.40B17149@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Frank Janik wrote: > > Just Thought I Would Pass This By. > I Purchased McFee Deluxe UnInstall Program (In A Tide Looking Box). > It Was THe > Grand Total Of $12.95 + Tax at Coscto. 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I Think That This Is Better Than Peanut > Butter From cph Sun Jan 23 21:53:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA21202 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:53:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00998; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:51:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:51:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00864; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00850; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:50:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (216.145.8.233 -> ip-216.145.8.233.az.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:50:56 -0500 Received: from whistler.az.com (ip-216.145.8.254.az.com [216.145.8.254]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11176 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:50:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Received: from MYHOSTNAME ([10.66.10.249]) by whistler.az.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA12735 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:51:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <200001240251.SAA12735@whistler.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Sun, 23 Jan 00 19:01:28 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Connecting 2 pc's List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 11:57:36 +0100 (CET), Harald Milz wrote: >Brad Burean wrote: >> I need to connect my 560 to a run-of-the-mill desktop. He's got a 366 pent, >> and my 560 is a 133. We are building a cd image for a disk we are planning >> to market. IS there a way to connect both machines to update the image we >> are planning to use? So both machines have the identical image? Thanks > >2 network cards maybe? Or do I miss something? I have to agree with Harald. Two network cards a cheap 4 port hub with a common drive (aka jazz drive or something along that lines) for a constant access drive. This would be the ideal, cuz then all work could be done on that drive. Although if you want a cheaper option two network cards with a crossover cable but this would assume you two will be within close proximity of each other. I would *NOT* recommend using an internet storage site as a common storage facility due to you really don't know how secure it would be (and for your case this is your bread and butter you're working on. See the movie Tron for such a ripoff example). My $0.02 Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph Sun Jan 23 22:34:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA21341 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:34:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02968; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:32:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02850; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pescado.nosc.mil (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02837; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pescado.nosc.mil (128.49.4.90 -> pescado.nosc.mil) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:32:23 -0500 Received: from nosc.mil (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pescado.nosc.mil (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id FOTLTO00.3IE for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:32:12 -0800 From: "Derek Seaman" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <73d8974505.7450573d89@nosc.mil> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:32:12 -0800 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: WIN2K, DVD, TP 600E X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a TP 600E 2645-55U, with a DVD player. Under Windows 98 I could play DVDs and the video was nearly perfect, and the audio was perfect. Under Windows 2000 using WinDVD 2000 the audio has a bit of static, and it's dropping some frames. So I dumped about 1GB of the DVD to my HD and played it back using PowerDVD (didn't have time to fiddle with WinDVD and VOB files), and the audio and video were absolutely perfect. So it seems that playing directly from the DVD disc it's having some problems. Previously with Windows 98 I was using the IBM provided DVD player. Is IBM going to release a 600E DVD player? I sure hope so..maybe it will fix the direct-DVD disc problems? Derek Seaman From cph Sun Jan 23 22:37:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA21364 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:37:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03247; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:34:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:34:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03171; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:34:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from erato.webcombo.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03158; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:34:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from erato.webcombo.net (207.250.9.21 -> mail.webcombo.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:34:26 -0500 Received: from 770z (1Cust218.tnt3.atl2.da.uu.net [63.22.17.218]) by erato.webcombo.net (8.9.3/[webCOMBO - ALL UCE PROHIBITED]) with SMTP id VAA05490; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:30:05 -0600 From: "Richard Chalk" To: , "Stephen Hosmer" Cc: "Thinkpad" Subject: RE: [TP770] Win2K DVD decoder driver now available Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:34:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <388BAD38.7794@worldnet.att.net> List-Unsubscribe: I have it working on my 770Z, 1280 x 1024 at High Color (16 Bit) I just followed directions, and it worked!! Richard -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Markowitz [mailto:scosgt@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 8:39 PM To: Stephen Hosmer Cc: Thinkpad Subject: Re: [TP770] Win2K DVD decoder driver now available Reduce your desktop to 256 colors Stephen Hosmer wrote: > > I donwloaded the new Win2K driver for the DVD, but it gives me a message > about not being able to display on the screen. It says that either 1) there > is not enough video memory 2)another app is utilizing the needed resources > or 3) the video driver is incompatible. > > Does anyone have it working, and if so HOW? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Tyhurst [mailto:tim@dogmead.com] > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2893 3:44 PM > To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net > Cc: tim@dogmead.com; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: [TP770] Win2K DVD decoder driver now available > > > Does it have any brightness controls? That is the biggest shortcomming > > of the SoftDVD player > > No -- the stock Windows 2000 DVD player is pretty minimal. At this point, > though, I'm just glad to have anything that works, to save me having to > boot Win98. > > -- > Tim Tyhurst tim@dogmead.com From cph Sun Jan 23 22:48:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA21439 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:48:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04172; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:44:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:44:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04026; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:44:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04013; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:44:27 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.12.73]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000124034419.NFPZ5516@compaq>; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:44:19 +0000 Message-ID: <388BCA68.55FA@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:43:36 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Seaman CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: WIN2K, DVD, TP 600E References: <73d8974505.7450573d89@nosc.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: If direct hard drive playback cures your problem, you need to enable DMA in Device Manager for the DVD drive. It may be disabled by default. Derek Seaman wrote: > > I have a TP 600E 2645-55U, with a DVD player. Under Windows 98 I could > play DVDs and the video was nearly perfect, and the audio was perfect. > > Under Windows 2000 using WinDVD 2000 the audio has a bit of static, and > it's dropping some frames. So I dumped about 1GB of the DVD to my HD > and played it back using PowerDVD (didn't have time to fiddle with > WinDVD and VOB files), and the audio and video were absolutely perfect. > > So it seems that playing directly from the DVD disc it's having some > problems. Previously with Windows 98 I was using the IBM provided DVD > player. > > Is IBM going to release a 600E DVD player? I sure hope so..maybe it > will fix the direct-DVD disc problems? > > Derek Seaman From cph Sun Jan 23 22:53:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA21463 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:53:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04835; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:51:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04735; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04725; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:51:14 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.71 -> imo27.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:51:14 -0500 Received: from JWeinst436@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id o.17.dd6ffb (4215) for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:51:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <17.dd6ffb.25bd262d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:51:09 EST Subject: Thinkpad 730T To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 47 List-Unsubscribe: I'm having a problem with the Thinkpad 730T. I'm trying to install operating systems on it--either DOS or Windows 95. I put the PCMCIA hard drive in my laptop but I'm having problems getting Windows 95 loaded on the 105MB hard drive. Would appreciate any help form others who have this pen tablet and how they have installed operating systems on the pen computer using a laptop Thanks, Jay Weinstein From cph Sun Jan 23 23:09:33 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA21523 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:09:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05728; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:06:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:06:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05606; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:06:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05593; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:06:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (206.191.0.217 -> mx1.magmacom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:06:12 -0500 Received: from mail4.magma.ca (mail4.magma.ca [206.191.0.222]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA07267; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:06:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew (x2port36.magma.ca [206.191.28.36]) by mail4.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA09721; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:06:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001240406.XAA09721@mail4.magma.ca> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "Randal Whittle" , "TP List" Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:56:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: power adapter for airplanes List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 09:28:54 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: >At 07:26 PM 01/22/2000 -0500, you wrote: >>Sure, here are the row numbers per plane: >> >>MD80 7-12 14,16,18,20-22,24,26,28 >>757 9-14, 17, 18, 22,25,27,30,33 >>727 6-10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24 >>737 9-15, 18, 21,24,27 >>MD11 20-23,24,25 (outboard only),26,29,32 >>777 center: 20-26,29,32,35 out: 27,30,33,36 >>A300 4,5,7,8-11 out: 14,17,20,23 > >THANK YOU! > > I'm flying on American in about 10 days and looking >at this info, it appears I'll be in Row 10 on an MD80, so >I'll have access to an Empower outlet (I hope). I think >I'll go buy one of these adapters. > > I saw one at a local store for $119, I think made >by Port. Do you (or does anyone on the list) have any >recommendations? I use the little rectangular one by Port, I assume that's the one (retail is U$120). I actually flew AA last October. Note that they don't use the Empower outlets (or didn't in the F100 I was in), they have a cigarette lighter outlet.. The Port universal adapter has an Empower plug on the cable, and comes with an Empower-to-lighter adapter that sticks on the end. The point, though, is that AFAIK any "auto" adapter should work with AA's outlet. I also saw a thing in Best Buy (in California) once, it was an auto-to-Empower adapter: you plugged the auto adapter into it and it then plugged into the Empower outlet. I didn't buy it; apart from not having an auto adapter yet (reducing the savings), that would make for a rather clumsy monster plug in my view! CP (Canadian Airlines), on the other hand, has the Empower outlet. I was shocked (bad pun) to discover the F100 and Super80 had power outlets. They have no in-flight entertainment, and on CP, only ships where audio runs to the seats, have been upgraded to in-seat power (all economy seats AFAIK). On AA, these no-audio planes still had power outets, whereas CP's <3hr flights usually don't. AA also seems to have an "ordinary" stereo headphone jack, vs. both CP's and AC's two-mono-outlets which require an adapter (available >from Radio Shack) if you want to use your regular headphones. andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/LongBeachCA.html From cph Mon Jan 24 00:07:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA21690 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:07:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11797; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:04:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11404; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11369; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:04:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93 -> uhura.concentric.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:04:04 -0500 Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id AAA01552; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:03:59 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from RJWLaptop1 (w066.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.66]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id AAA02334; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:03:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000123192527.00aa9500@pop3.iceka1.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka1.com@pop3.iceka1.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:33:19 -0800 To: Keith Wong , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: power adapter for airplanes In-Reply-To: <388B6E39.B66FE2E9@lava.net> References: <"William Armstrong"'s message of "Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:10:15 -0500"> <4.2.0.58.20000121123501.00a8a770@pop3.iceka1.com> <4.2.0.58.20000123092609.00a9ded0@pop3.iceka1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 11:10 AM 01/23/2000 -1000, you wrote: >--You know just before this string started I saw a power adapter for thinkpads >that could be used in both air and auto power ports. I've been trying to look >for that site again, but I've been having no luck. It was on a site that sold >mobile electronics ffor laptops and PDA's. Anyone else seen something like >that out there? I'll post as soon as I find it again. On Port's web site (www.port.com) they have one made by Targus (I guess you could see it on their web site too). They are also offering a 20% discount on it for employees & customers of Continental Airlines, and if you belong to American Airlines' Frequent Flyer program, you get Frequent Flyer miles with the purchase. - Randy Whittle From cph Mon Jan 24 00:59:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA21849 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:59:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20939; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:57:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:56:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20664; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20651; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:56:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (24.25.227.33 -> hnlmail1.hawaii.rr.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:56:34 -0500 Received: from lava.net ([24.25.253.37]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:55:26 -1000 Message-ID: <388BE9D2.40245CD7@lava.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:57:38 -1000 From: Keith Wong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: TP List Subject: Re: power adapter for airplanes References: <"William Armstrong"'s message of "Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:10:15 -0500"> <4.2.0.58.20000121123501.00a8a770@pop3.iceka1.com> <4.2.0.58.20000123092609.00a9ded0@pop3.iceka1.com> <4.2.0.58.20000123192527.00aa9500@pop3.iceka1.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: --FOUND IT! Well two actually I went down to Barnes & Nobles today and in Mobile electronics magazine I found out it WAS a Targus like you guys said going for $89 on www.mobileplanet.com, and I also found a Lind Electronics one from $69 to $99. OK my brain can rest now. =) --Keith Honolulu, Hawaii Randal Whittle wrote: > At 11:10 AM 01/23/2000 -1000, you wrote: > >--You know just before this string started I saw a power adapter for thinkpads > >that could be used in both air and auto power ports. I've been trying to look > >for that site again, but I've been having no luck. It was on a site that sold > >mobile electronics ffor laptops and PDA's. Anyone else seen something like > >that out there? I'll post as soon as I find it again. > > On Port's web site (www.port.com) they have one made by Targus (I > guess you could see it on their web site too). > > They are also offering a 20% discount on it for employees & > customers of Continental Airlines, and if you belong to American Airlines' > Frequent Flyer program, you get Frequent Flyer miles with the purchase. > > - Randy Whittle From cph Mon Jan 24 01:51:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA21970 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 01:51:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29091; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 01:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 01:48:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28923; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 01:48:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from masada.royl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28910; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 01:48:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from masada.royl.com (208.240.192.9 -> masada.royl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 01:48:22 -0500 Received: from HOME (northpoint-103-162.dsl.veriosd.net [209.75.103.162]) by masada.royl.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 365; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:34:10 -0800 Message-ID: <001701bf6636$b005a3d0$a2674bd1@hosmer.org> From: "Stephen Hosmer" To: "Sylvestre Meininger" Cc: "Thinkpad" References: <000c01bf64d1$de6ea980$0b0510ac@nfwenaxa> Subject: Re: TP 770 and DVD Express Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:46:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF65F3.A1977820" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF65F3.A1977820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where do you get the DVDExpress? Did it come from IBM? Is it available = seperately? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sylvestre Meininger=20 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu=20 Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 4:11 AM Subject: TP 770 and DVD Express Hello to the list. =20 =20 IBM just sent me a copy of Mediamatics' DVDExpress. I installed it and = selected Region 1 when prompted. Out of curiosity, I tried to use a = little program that I got on the Net which enabled Region change with = the infamous Zoran's SoftDVD player. It didn't work (complete reboot = when trying to play any Region). So I reinstalled DVDExpress and chose Region 2. Everything worked. So = I reinstalled it and chose Region 1 again, and everything still works. = Is this normal ? I mean is it so easy to bypass the Region protection = with DVDExpress : just reinstall when you want to change Region ? =20 Or am I heading for a small catastrophe here (like one can only = reinstall DVDExpress up to X times, then one has to do a full restore = >from the TP Restore CD) ? =20 If my last supposition is true, does anyone know of a downloadable = utility that enables Region change with DVDExpress ? =20 By the way, when displaying in "Full Screen" mode, I can see a 2-3 = pixels wide pink line on top of the screen. There seems to be no way of = getting rid of it (I'm running the latest Mpeg Drivers). =20 Sorry for the lengthy post. I'd appreciate any help. =20 = Sylvestre Meininger ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF65F3.A1977820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Where do you get the DVDExpress?  = Did it come=20 >from IBM?  Is it available seperately?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Sylvestre Meininger
Sent: Saturday, January 22, = 2000 4:11=20 AM
Subject: TP 770 and DVD = Express

Hello to the = list.   =20
 
IBM just sent me a copy of = Mediamatics'=20 DVDExpress. I installed it and selected Region 1 when prompted. Out of = curiosity, I tried to use a little program that I got on the Net which = enabled=20 Region change with the infamous Zoran's SoftDVD player. It didn't work = (complete reboot when trying to play any Region).
So I reinstalled DVDExpress and = chose Region=20 2. Everything worked. So I reinstalled it and chose Region 1 again, = and=20 everything still works. Is this normal ? I mean is it so easy to = bypass the=20 Region protection with DVDExpress : just reinstall when you want to = change=20 Region ? 
Or am I heading for a small = catastrophe here=20 (like one can only reinstall DVDExpress up to X times, then one has to = do a=20 full restore from the TP Restore CD) ?
 
If my last supposition is true, = does anyone=20 know of a downloadable utility that enables Region change with = DVDExpress=20 ?
 
By the way, when displaying in "Full Screen" mode, = I can see=20 a 2-3 pixels wide pink line on top of the screen. There seems to be no = way of=20 getting rid of it (I'm running the latest Mpeg Drivers).
 
Sorry for the lengthy post. I'd appreciate any=20 help.
 
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;   =20 Sylvestre Meininger
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF65F3.A1977820-- From cph Mon Jan 24 02:18:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA22025 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 02:18:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00229; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 02:16:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 02:16:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00144; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 02:16:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtppop3.gte.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00130; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 02:16:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtppop3.gte.net (207.115.153.22 -> smtppop3.gte.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 02:16:09 -0500 Received: from glen (1Cust228.tnt4.san-fernando.ca.da.uu.net [63.26.251.228]) by smtppop3.gte.net with SMTP for ; id BAA33067956 Mon, 24 Jan 2000 01:15:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000e01bf663a$fcb32b40$e4fb1a3f@glen> From: "Balzac" To: References: <17.dd6ffb.25bd262d@aol.com> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 730T Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:16:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: You'll need to DriveSpace the 105Mb drive in order to realistically get even a minimal installation of Win95 on it. I've installed it successfully on a drivespaced 105; leaves about half the drive free, but of course you can burn that up fast too. Unless you have access to CD-ROM drive that will workwith the 730T (which I don't, yet) consider buying 2nd 105 or larger PCMCIA hard drive, and use it to hold the Win95 CAB files. This makes installing MUCH. You only have to get enough of an OS on the first(main) drive to boot and load up the drivespaced data, then you can run the windows Install program locally, and the CAB files take the place of the original CD-ROM. Later, you can use the 2nd drive to get useable space by having two drives in the machine. Also enjoying the struggle, Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 7:51 PM Subject: Thinkpad 730T > I'm having a problem with the Thinkpad 730T. I'm trying to install operating > systems on it--either DOS or Windows 95. I put the PCMCIA hard drive in my > laptop but I'm having problems getting Windows 95 loaded on the 105MB hard > drive. Would appreciate any help form others who have this pen tablet and > how they have installed operating systems on the pen computer using a laptop > Thanks, > Jay Weinstein > From cph Mon Jan 24 03:18:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA22148 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:18:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02896; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:16:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02777; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02764; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:16:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (129.59.1.212 -> mailer2.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:16:00 -0500 Received: from lruby (A061018.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.61.18]) by mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/VU-3.0.2) with SMTP id CAA29032 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 02:15:57 -0600 (CST) From: "Ruby Lestari" To: Subject: Urgent...Please help...!! Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 02:12:03 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000e01bf663a$fcb32b40$e4fb1a3f@glen> List-Unsubscribe: Just lately my computer starts to behave weirdly... With an adapter plugs in, the battery seems to be drain out by itself. And after that, at 0% the computer went dead for a while. Then if I move it somewhere else or try to play around with the cable, it will start charging again. What's happening here..?? Has anybody had any experience like this..?? Is it because of old battery or faulty adaptor..?? Btw, I have a ThinkPad 760ED. Please advise. Thanks. In Dharma, Ruby Lestari Department of Mechanical Engineering School of Engineering - Vanderbilt University --------------------------------------------- From cph Mon Jan 24 03:33:17 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA22166 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:33:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04044; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:31:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:31:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03962; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03948; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:31:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (193.149.48.10 -> slarti.muc.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:31:24 -0500 Received: (qmail 10071 invoked by uid 66); 24 Jan 2000 08:36:55 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; Mon Jan 24 08:36:55 2000 -0000 Received: by seneca.muc.de (Postfix, from userid 0) id 33802E807; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:00:17 +0100 (CET) From: Harald Milz Subject: Re: TP600 and 18GB HD and Linux To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu References: <200001240030.TAA22048@CS.UTK.EDU> Organization: X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Message-Id: <20000124070017.33802E807@seneca.muc.de> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:00:17 +0100 (CET) List-Unsubscribe: Siegfried Hanisch wrote: > I want to order the IBM 18GB HD drive for my TP600. Are there > any troubles to be expected? (I use RedHat Linux 6.1 and SuSE 6.3 > besides Win95) Works fine w/ SuSE 6.3. A collegue of mine has a 600E w/ the 18G drive. -- Nasrudin called at a large house to collect for charity. The servant said "My master is out." Nasrudin replied, "Tell your master that next time he goes out, he should not leave his face at the window. Someone might steal it." From cph Mon Jan 24 03:47:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA22182 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:47:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05283; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:45:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:45:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05210; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from tumlis.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04958; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:41:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from tumlis.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (129.187.155.98 -> tumlis.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:41:57 -0500 Received: from venus (venus.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de) by tumlis.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id AA25054 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:44:29 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000124094329.0093de40@tumlis> X-Sender: georg@tumlis X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:43:29 +0100 To: From: Georg Diebel Subject: TP770: Problem with CD-ROM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello everybody, I've got a TP770 with a 24x-CD-ROM drive in the Ultrabay-Slot. It appears that I've got more and more problems reading CDs or CD-Rs over the last weeks - when at first initializing a new CD, the drive spins up, down again, up, down and so on; sometimes the system hangs a bit. Sometimes the CD can be accessed without problems after that, sometimes not at all, sometimes with long access times. Most of these CDs run perfectly in other PCs. May the laser assembly be maladjusted? After all, it can easily be touched (unintentionally). Does anyone know what to do about it? Can the laser / optics be adjusted or cleaned? Or should I go for a replacement? (If so: where could I get one - refubished or new?) Thanks in advance, Georg -- Georg Diebel, Inst. for Integrated Circuits, Technical University of Munich Mailto:G_Diebel@lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de Phone: 0049-89-289-28578 Homepage: http://www.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de/people/gd.html From cph Mon Jan 24 05:14:13 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA22417 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:14:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11842; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:12:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:12:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11745; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:12:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11545; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:08:20 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-40.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.40]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA04280; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:07:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000124051026.010b8100@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:10:26 -0800 To: Georg Diebel , From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: TP770: Problem with CD-ROM In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000124094329.0093de40@tumlis> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:43 AM 01/24/2000 +0100, Georg Diebel wrote: >Hello everybody, > >I've got a TP770 with a 24x-CD-ROM drive in the Ultrabay-Slot. > >It appears that I've got more and more problems reading CDs or CD-Rs over >the last weeks - when at first initializing a new CD, the drive spins up, >down again, up, down and so on; sometimes the system hangs a bit. Sometimes >the CD can be accessed without problems after that, sometimes not at all, >sometimes with long access times. Most of these CDs run perfectly in other >PCs. > >May the laser assembly be maladjusted? After all, it can easily be touched >(unintentionally). > >Does anyone know what to do about it? Can the laser / optics be adjusted or >cleaned? >Or should I go for a replacement? (If so: where could I get one - >refubished or new?) How old is the CD-ROM drive? Did it come with your TP770? Your unit maybe under warranty. If it was an Option purchased, how long ago? . If you purchased it seperately (First gen 770's had the 20x and then 24x CD-ROM units as optional). ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Mon Jan 24 07:39:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA22967 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:39:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23681; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:37:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:37:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23517; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:37:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.infoave.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23483; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:37:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.infoave.net (165.166.0.26 -> smtp01.InfoAve.Net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:37:18 -0500 Received: from dial-16.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net ("port 1030"@[206.74.61.146]) by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) with SMTP id <01JL2PJPPM688X04W7@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:37:07 EST Received: by dial-16.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net with Microsoft Mail id <01BF663E.00515940@dial-16.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net>; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:38:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:38:15 -0500 From: Stan Jacobs Subject: RE: Hard Drive for 760's To: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP , "'Bill Morrow'" Cc: mharguspipelinecom , thinkpadcsutkedu Message-id: <01BF663E.00515940@dial-16.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id HAA22968 What is meant by pre-change and post-change. Also, can anyone tell me how to use one of the laptop to regular IDE adapters. I bought one. I have tried it on three drives. One of which is a 170 I use in my laptop. My computer would see that drive. Windows wouldn't. Fdisk would. I couldn't do a directory on it in dos. Fdisk did wipe out my partition information and make it where I had to reformat it. But my desktop wouldn't see it to format it. I had to put it back in my laptop to format it. But now I have a 540 meg hard drive I just bought off e-bay which shows a hard drive password on my 750. The guy I bought it from said it was tested on a 755 and didn't show a password lock. I need to fdisk it so I can reformat it to use it. But of course my laptop won't even let me boot with a floppy when set to only boot from a floppy and my desktop won't see the drive. Fdisk sees it but says there is no space left for a partition and that there are no partitions to delete. Anybody got any ideas. Thanks Stan Jacobs ---------- From: Bill Morrow[SMTP:penzance@icanect.net] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:49 PM To: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP Cc: mhargus@pipeline.com; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard Drive for 760's isolate the four drive select pins.. there IS a difference.. the 810meg is pre-change, the 2.1gig is post change.. i really need to explain this on my site, i suppose, so i don't wear my fingers off every time.. :-) peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: > It's not that simple > If you have a 810 MB caddy it will not work . > If you have one of the larger caddies it should be fine from a hardware > viewpoint. > It still may not work from a Bios viewpoint. ;-} > > We just got bitten by this yesterday . > I was swapping out a 810MB (DS0A-20810 ) from a 760E /760XL with a > .3GB,( type DKLA-24320). > > The 760 could not see the HD , even the Bios Icon was greyed out. > I grabed a different caddy from a 2.1GB and it works fine. > The caddies are different and so is the "flex" connector. > > Weird part is that according to IBM's wab page, the pinouts of both drives > are the same . > ie default master/ slave C/S etc. > > I am about the buzz out both flex cables to figure this out. > > If anyone knows more , please let us know . > > ..Peter Machule > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 8:07 PM > Subject: Hard Drive > > > Hello everyone. > > > > I have a question. > > > > I have aquired a hard drive which has the following number: 36L9293 and I > beleive it is an option for the Thinkpad 600 and Thinkpad 570 series > notebooks. I would like to know if I can use this hard drive in my Thinkpad > 760ED? It is a 10 gig drive and is ATA-4 compliant. I know my 760 is not > ata-4 compliant, but it should be backward compatible, right??? I do beleive > this drive would be small enough to fit in the laptop (12.5mm), but I dont > know if it is "compatible" with the 760ED "caddy". Any help would be gladly > accepted! > > > > Thank you all, > > > > Matt > > mhargus@pipeline.com > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Mon Jan 24 07:39:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA22971 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:39:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23677; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:37:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:37:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23504; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:37:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.infoave.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23482; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:37:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.infoave.net (165.166.0.26 -> smtp01.InfoAve.Net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:37:18 -0500 Received: from dial-16.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net ("port 1029"@[206.74.61.146]) by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) with SMTP id <01JL2PJMZYYO8ZJ83D@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:37:03 EST Received: by dial-16.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net with Microsoft Mail id <01BF663D.FE416500@dial-16.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net>; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:38:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:31:56 -0500 From: Stan Jacobs Subject: RE: Workpad z50 To: Jon , "'Bill Morrow'" Cc: ThinkPad List Message-id: <01BF663D.FE416500@dial-16.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id HAA22972 On the Workpad z50. How do you store your work when you turn it off. Do you have to use flash memory card or pcmcia hard drive or will it maintain memory when off. If you want to run other programs do you have to have them on flash memory cards or a pcmcia drive. Thanks Stan Jacobs ---------- From: Bill Morrow[SMTP:penzance@icanect.net] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 6:33 PM To: Jon Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Workpad z50 thats their profit.. my guess is real cost is about $240 to $250.. my cost is $255.. plus 3% cc fee.. so my real cost is about $263 (need to add the half a buck it costs to run a CC charge over and above the 3%) i'll sell a few remaining units for $279 + $10 for next morning shipping and take a CC, but all i earn is about $15.. i like the unit as it will fint in a slim attache case and do a whole lot of detail keeping... internet browsing, e-mailing, excel'ing, and much more.. if you guys do get some of these, get the port replicator and/or the parallel printer cable option.. Jon wrote: > darn it !! I just ordered one from www.ecost.com > the listed price is $265 + free shipping but BEware, upon the final > screeen, there is > this miraculous $9.99 ( or $9 i cant remember) Handling Fee !! So > overall they give you free shipping but they throw in the handling fee. > go figure > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Bill Morrow wrote: > > > and I have them for $279 > > > > i did not want to say this, but i suppose with all the other sources i > > would be foolinh NOT to chime in.. :-) > > > > my guess is either IBM did not sell many of these and that they a > > discontinuing the model, > > or that there is a new model coming out with a TFT display or something > > else, nice.. > > > > -- > > Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > > > > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Mon Jan 24 08:05:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA23037 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:05:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25323; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:03:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:03:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25209; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:03:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25175; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:03:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:03:33 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [172.20.2.1]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17413; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:03:29 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [172.20.1.9]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA03802; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:03:28 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:03:29 +0000 To: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP , "'Bill Morrow'" , Stan Jacobs Cc: mharguspipelinecom , thinkpadcsutkedu Subject: Re[2]: Hard Drive for 760's MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id IAA23038 Send it back if he can't supply the password - there is no way to reset it. Incidentally did you see my post about big hard disks - I've found that I can see a 4.3 GB IBM Travelstar perfectly well in my 755C, so there's a good chance it'll work in a 750 isn't there? They are so cheap these days. You just have to bend back or clip off the drive select pins on the drive connector, and slip it into the caddy. - Adam ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Hard Drive for 760's Author: MIME:Stan Jacobs at INTERNET Date: 1/24/00 12:44 PM What is meant by pre-change and post-change. Also, can anyone tell me how to use one of the laptop to regular IDE adapters. I bought one. I have tried it on three drives. One of which is a 170 I use in my laptop. My computer would see that drive. Windows wouldn't. Fdisk would. I couldn't do a directory on it in dos. Fdisk did wipe out my partition information and make it where I had to reformat it. But my desktop wouldn't see it to format it. I had to put it back in my laptop to format it. But now I have a 540 meg hard drive I just bought off e-bay which shows a hard drive password on my 750. The guy I bought it from said it was tested on a 755 and didn't show a password lock. I need to fdisk it so I can reformat it to use it. But of course my laptop won't even let me boot with a floppy when set to only boot from a floppy and my desktop won't see the drive. Fdisk sees it but says there is no space left for a partition and that there are no partitions to delete. Anybody got any ideas. Thanks Stan Jacobs ---------- From: Bill Morrow[SMTP:penzance@icanect.net] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:49 PM To: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP Cc: mhargus@pipeline.com; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard Drive for 760's isolate the four drive select pins.. there IS a difference.. the 810meg is pre-change, the 2.1gig is post change.. i really need to explain this on my site, i suppose, so i don't wear my fingers off every time.. :-) peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: > It's not that simple > If you have a 810 MB caddy it will not work . > If you have one of the larger caddies it should be fine from a hardware > viewpoint. > It still may not work from a Bios viewpoint. ;-} > > We just got bitten by this yesterday . > I was swapping out a 810MB (DS0A-20810 ) from a 760E /760XL with a > .3GB,( type DKLA-24320). > > The 760 could not see the HD , even the Bios Icon was greyed out. > I grabed a different caddy from a 2.1GB and it works fine. > The caddies are different and so is the "flex" connector. > > Weird part is that according to IBM's wab page, the pinouts of both drives > are the same . > ie default master/ slave C/S etc. > > I am about the buzz out both flex cables to figure this out. > > If anyone knows more , please let us know . > > ..Peter Machule > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 8:07 PM > Subject: Hard Drive > > > Hello everyone. > > > > I have a question. > > > > I have aquired a hard drive which has the following number: 36L9293 and I > beleive it is an option for the Thinkpad 600 and Thinkpad 570 series > notebooks. I would like to know if I can use this hard drive in my Thinkpad > 760ED? It is a 10 gig drive and is ATA-4 compliant. I know my 760 is not > ata-4 compliant, but it should be backward compatible, right??? I do beleive > this drive would be small enough to fit in the laptop (12.5mm), but I dont > know if it is "compatible" with the 760ED "caddy". Any help would be gladly > accepted! > > > > Thank you all, > > > > Matt > > mhargus@pipeline.com > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Mon Jan 24 12:01:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA24270 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:01:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12852; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:55:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:55:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12670; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12639; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:55:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (206.127.32.35 -> tam.dorsai.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:55:04 -0500 Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA05941 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:00:32 -0500 (EST) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id MAA01302 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:00:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001241700.MAA01302@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Z50 Down to $189 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad list) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 100 12:00:30 -0500 (est) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Check Insight.com for the Z50 at $189... From cph Mon Jan 24 12:01:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA24274 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:01:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12872; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:54:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12610; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:54:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12589; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (206.127.32.35 -> tam.dorsai.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:54:40 -0500 Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA05918 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:00:04 -0500 (EST) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id MAA01291 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:00:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001241700.MAA01291@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: RE: Workpad z50 (fwd) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad list) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 100 11:59:56 -0500 (est) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > > On the Workpad z50. How do you store your work when you turn it off. Do = > you have to use flash memory card or pcmcia hard drive or will it = > maintain memory when off. If you want to run other programs do you have = > to have them on flash memory cards or a pcmcia drive. > It remains in RAM as long as there's power in the machine (including a AAA backup battery). I double save *everything* to the CF and internal memory as I'm working on it, every 5 minutes. Once a day, I back up the entire thing once to internal memory and again to the flash card. (Can you guess that I've had to hard reset the machine and lost everything???) For $8 you can buy a CF/PCMCIA adapter that you can then shove into a notebook and grab the file. Note that this only works if you're not using the "pocket" formats of Work, Excel, etc. which the thing always wants to default to. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph Mon Jan 24 12:53:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA24694 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:53:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18459; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:46:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:46:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18362; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:46:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from europe.std.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18347; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from europe.std.com (199.172.62.20 -> europe.std.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:46:06 -0500 Received: from world.std.com (root@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08669 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from world.std.com (docs.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.80.242]) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04900 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:41:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <388C8E8A.758634DF@world.std.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:40:26 -0500 From: Rod Owen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: [TP600X] Win98 Explorer gets extremely sluggish when navigating References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: How fragmented is your disk? I've had this problem on other machines and defragmenting the disk usually straightens it out. From cph Mon Jan 24 13:01:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA24728 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:01:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19713; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:55:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19590; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:55:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19538; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:54:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (140.174.2.1 -> toad.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:54:56 -0500 Received: from ken2 ([208.199.120.209]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03247; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:54:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000124124930.00d2c290@mail.ny.viant.com> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Kenzo's Useful Mail Client v3 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:54:03 -0500 To: Rod Owen , Thinkpad list From: Ken Subject: RE: [TP600X] Win98 Explorer gets extremely sluggish when navigating In-Reply-To: <388C8E8A.758634DF@world.std.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:40 PM 1/24/00 -0500, Rod Owen wrote: >How fragmented is your disk? I've had this problem on other >machines and defragmenting the disk usually straightens it out. The disk is not very fragmented - it's brand new. And the computer does not appear to be accessing the hard drive. It just goes to hourglass, and takes 5 seconds, next time 7 seconds, next time 10 seconds, pretty soon it takes 20 seconds just to go from /Documents/Folder1 to /Documents/Folder1/Subfolder1. Meanwhile, everything else on the computer is perfectly fast, including navigating around via the "Open" dialog boxes in all applications. It's JUST the desktop Explorer and the Windows Explorer that get slow, and they only get slow after I've navigated around for a little while during a given Windows session. (Note: The problem seems to be exacerbated when I browse to a deep folder; i.e. one like /Documents/Sub/Sub2/Sub3/Sub4. From then on, I can expect a progressively slower and slower browsing experience.) Please, if anyone has any insight into this, I need to know. My new TP600X with Win98 and IE 5.01 is SO difficult to use with this problem. And I don't know if there's any way to switch it to IE 4 (which might perhaps eliminate the problem, although my Win95 machine had IE 5 and didn't exhibit this behavior). Thanks! Ken (Owner of TP770ED and TP600X) kenzo@free-music.com From cph Mon Jan 24 13:28:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA24983 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:28:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23344; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:24:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23165; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:24:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot016.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23121; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:24:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot016.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.116 -> pilot016.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:24:31 -0500 Received: from andres (pm453-05.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.159]) by pilot016.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA40428 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:24:20 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000124132432.00a06620@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:24:32 -0500 To: Thinkpad list From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: RE: [TP600X] Win98 Explorer gets extremely sluggish when navigating In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000124124930.00d2c290@mail.ny.viant.com> References: <388C8E8A.758634DF@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I've not seen this, but I just ordered a TP 600 and it makes me wonder if I'll encounter this once I get it. A couple of ideas. 1. The disk may be new, but I'd try reorganizing the disk with something like Norton Utilities Speed Disk, which can rearrange the swap file, which is useful. 2. Look at the site annoyances.org in the Win98 section to see if they list this particular behavior, and then go to the forum section and post your problem there. I really like that site; its given me many explainations for the various unholy things that Windows does. 3. Goto microsoft.com and see if there might be some patches for IE 5.01 which might deal with this problem. It certainly does sound aggravating; I wish I had some better answers. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 12:54 PM 1/24/2000 -0500, Ken wrote: >At 12:40 PM 1/24/00 -0500, Rod Owen wrote: >>How fragmented is your disk? I've had this problem on other >>machines and defragmenting the disk usually straightens it out. > >The disk is not very fragmented - it's brand new. And the computer does not appear to be accessing the hard drive. It just goes to hourglass, and takes 5 seconds, next time 7 seconds, next time 10 seconds, pretty soon it takes 20 seconds just to go from /Documents/Folder1 to /Documents/Folder1/Subfolder1. Meanwhile, everything else on the computer is perfectly fast, including navigating around via the "Open" dialog boxes in all applications. It's JUST the desktop Explorer and the Windows Explorer that get slow, and they only get slow after I've navigated around for a little while during a given Windows session. (Note: The problem seems to be exacerbated when I browse to a deep folder; i.e. one like /Documents/Sub/Sub2/Sub3/Sub4. From then on, I can expect a progressively slower and slower browsing experience.) > >Please, if anyone has any insight into this, I need to know. My new TP600X with Win98 and IE 5.01 is SO difficult to use with this problem. And I don't know if there's any way to switch it to IE 4 (which might perhaps eliminate the problem, although my Win95 machine had IE 5 and didn't exhibit this behavior). > >Thanks! > >Ken >(Owner of TP770ED and TP600X) >kenzo@free-music.com From cph Mon Jan 24 13:47:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA25144 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:47:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24843; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:40:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24738; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:40:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.actionwebs.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24724; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.actionwebs.net (216.5.9.4 -> apollo.actionwebs.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:40:29 -0500 Received: from ccs ([208.244.215.242]) by localhost.actionwebs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA23412 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:36:58 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Mark Lemon" To: "'Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail)'" Subject: Workpad z50 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:36:31 -0600 Message-ID: <000c01bf66a2$51656d80$7700a8c0@ccs.candid.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3887995C.553D3A74@icanect.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Friends, I ordered the z50 on Sunday 1/16 from CDW, it arrived Thursday 1/20, I opened the box Saturday, had it sync to my TP600 in 10 minutes, read the manual in an hour (I hate reading the manual first), played with it for another hour whilst watching TV, handed it to my "Windows 3.1 literate" wife Sunday, she entered info from her Frankin Planner all evening, and this morning she took it to work instead of the Franklin. She's extremely happy. In addition to holding her planner data, she now has e-mail and the web anywhere she's working. The killer apps for my wife were "instant on" and "e-mail from anywhere". The built-in voice recorder is also a hit. Comments: I was pleasantly suprised by the unit. The fit and finish are fine, and it definitely looks like a TP. It's almost too light - it takes one hand to hold the bottom down with the other to raise the screen. The mouse refresh is slow like the older laptops I used to own, the trackpoint works pretty much the same as my 600, and the keyboard is definitely useable. I can touch-type normal text on the z50 as fast as on my 600...it just takes longer to find the function keys. The occasional attempts at displaying small fonts are crappy, but the screen works fine in 640x480 for 99% of the applications that are included. At this price point, the z50 is a winner if your only need is the MSOffice basics: Word, Excel, Explorer, Outlook, Access, Calendar, TaskMgr, and faxing. It is not a PC replacement, but in a pinch it could be used as one. If you don't put any more money into it, it can certainly pay for itself as a tool. My 2c Mark From cph Mon Jan 24 13:47:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA25148 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:47:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25000; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:41:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:41:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24893; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24870; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246 -> smtp10.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:41:14 -0500 Received: from ms461956 (pool-209-138-37-93.irvn.grid.net [209.138.37.93]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA06436; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:41:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001901bf669a$c8632240$5d258ad1@ms461956> Reply-To: "James" From: "James" To: "STeve Andre'" Cc: "Thinkpad" References: <388C8E8A.758634DF@world.std.com> <3.0.6.32.20000124132432.00a06620@pilot.msu.edu> Subject: Re: [TP600X] Win98 Explorer gets extremely sluggish when navigating Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 10:42:32 -0800 Organization: US EPA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Yes it is very sluggish. It's just the way Win98 is. I installed W2K RTM and it's much faster. James ----- Original Message ----- From: STeve Andre' To: Thinkpad list Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 10:24 AM Subject: RE: [TP600X] Win98 Explorer gets extremely sluggish when navigating > I've not seen this, but I just ordered a TP 600 and it makes me wonder if I'll > encounter this once I get it. > > A couple of ideas. > > 1. The disk may be new, but I'd try reorganizing the disk with something like > Norton Utilities Speed Disk, which can rearrange the swap file, which is > useful. > > 2. Look at the site annoyances.org in the Win98 section to see if they list > this > particular behavior, and then go to the forum section and post your problem > there. > I really like that site; its given me many explainations for the various > unholy > things that Windows does. > > 3. Goto microsoft.com and see if there might be some patches for IE 5.01 > which might > deal with this problem. > > It certainly does sound aggravating; I wish I had some better answers. > > --STeve Andre' > andres@msu.edu > > At 12:54 PM 1/24/2000 -0500, Ken wrote: > >At 12:40 PM 1/24/00 -0500, Rod Owen wrote: > >>How fragmented is your disk? I've had this problem on other > >>machines and defragmenting the disk usually straightens it out. > > > >The disk is not very fragmented - it's brand new. And the computer does > not appear to be accessing the hard drive. It just goes to hourglass, and > takes 5 seconds, next time 7 seconds, next time 10 seconds, pretty soon it > takes 20 seconds just to go from /Documents/Folder1 to > /Documents/Folder1/Subfolder1. Meanwhile, everything else on the computer > is perfectly fast, including navigating around via the "Open" dialog boxes > in all applications. It's JUST the desktop Explorer and the Windows > Explorer that get slow, and they only get slow after I've navigated around > for a little while during a given Windows session. (Note: The problem > seems to be exacerbated when I browse to a deep folder; i.e. one like > /Documents/Sub/Sub2/Sub3/Sub4. From then on, I can expect a progressively > slower and slower browsing experience.) > > > >Please, if anyone has any insight into this, I need to know. My new > TP600X with Win98 and IE 5.01 is SO difficult to use with this problem. > And I don't know if there's any way to switch it to IE 4 (which might > perhaps eliminate the problem, although my Win95 machine had IE 5 and > didn't exhibit this behavior). > > > >Thanks! > > > >Ken > >(Owner of TP770ED and TP600X) > >kenzo@free-music.com > From cph Mon Jan 24 13:49:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA25163 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:49:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25291; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:42:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:42:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25210; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:42:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25191; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:42:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (209.38.73.28 -> snowmass.leopard.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:42:46 -0500 To: "STeve Andre'" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: [TP600X] Win98 Explorer gets extremely sluggish when navigating X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 From: Steve Hultquist Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:52:13 GMT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on snowmass/Leopard(Release 5.0 |March 30, 1999) at 01/24/2000 11:52:19 AM, Serialize complete at 01/24/2000 11:52:19 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0066BED887256870_=" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0066BED887256870_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" FWIW, I don't see this on a 600X running Windows 2000 with IE 5. I'm not sure how much this helps, but at least it means that it's software specific! I installed 2000 on day-1, so I didn't run 98 at all. The other 600X in-house was installed with 2000 on day-1, as well... ssh "STeve Andre'" 01/24/2000 11:24 AM To: Thinkpad list cc: Subject: RE: [TP600X] Win98 Explorer gets extremely sluggish when navigating I've not seen this, but I just ordered a TP 600 and it makes me wonder if I'll encounter this once I get it. A couple of ideas. 1. The disk may be new, but I'd try reorganizing the disk with something like Norton Utilities Speed Disk, which can rearrange the swap file, which is useful. 2. Look at the site annoyances.org in the Win98 section to see if they list this particular behavior, and then go to the forum section and post your problem there. I really like that site; its given me many explainations for the various unholy things that Windows does. 3. Goto microsoft.com and see if there might be some patches for IE 5.01 which might deal with this problem. It certainly does sound aggravating; I wish I had some better answers. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 12:54 PM 1/24/2000 -0500, Ken wrote: >At 12:40 PM 1/24/00 -0500, Rod Owen wrote: >>How fragmented is your disk? I've had this problem on other >>machines and defragmenting the disk usually straightens it out. > >The disk is not very fragmented - it's brand new. And the computer does not appear to be accessing the hard drive. It just goes to hourglass, and takes 5 seconds, next time 7 seconds, next time 10 seconds, pretty soon it takes 20 seconds just to go from /Documents/Folder1 to /Documents/Folder1/Subfolder1. Meanwhile, everything else on the computer is perfectly fast, including navigating around via the "Open" dialog boxes in all applications. It's JUST the desktop Explorer and the Windows Explorer that get slow, and they only get slow after I've navigated around for a little while during a given Windows session. (Note: The problem seems to be exacerbated when I browse to a deep folder; i.e. one like /Documents/Sub/Sub2/Sub3/Sub4. From then on, I can expect a progressively slower and slower browsing experience.) > >Please, if anyone has any insight into this, I need to know. My new TP600X with Win98 and IE 5.01 is SO difficult to use with this problem. And I don't know if there's any way to switch it to IE 4 (which might perhaps eliminate the problem, although my Win95 machine had IE 5 and didn't exhibit this behavior). > >Thanks! > >Ken >(Owner of TP770ED and TP600X) >kenzo@free-music.com --=_alternative 0066BED887256870_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
FWIW, I don't see this on a 600X running Windows 2000 with IE 5. I'm not sure how much this helps, but at least it means that it's software specific! I installed 2000 on day-1, so I didn't run 98 at all. The other 600X in-house was installed with 2000 on day-1, as well...

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I've not seen this, but I just ordered a TP 600 and it makes me wonder if I'll
encounter this once I get it.
A couple of ideas.
1. The disk may be new, but I'd try reorganizing the disk with something like
Norton Utilities Speed Disk, which can rearrange the swap file, which is
useful.
2. Look at the site annoyances.org in the Win98 section to see if they list
this
particular behavior, and then go to the forum section and post your problem
there.
I really like that site; its given me many explainations for the various
unholy
things that Windows does.
3. Goto microsoft.com and see if there might be some patches for IE 5.01
which might
deal with this problem.
It certainly does sound aggravating; I wish I had some better answers.
--STeve Andre'
andres@msu.edu
At 12:54 PM 1/24/2000 -0500, Ken wrote:
>At 12:40 PM 1/24/00 -0500, Rod Owen wrote:
>>How fragmented is your disk?  I've had this problem on other
>>machines and defragmenting the disk usually straightens it out.
>
>The disk is not very fragmented - it's brand new.  And the computer does
not appear to be accessing the hard drive.  It just goes to hourglass, and
takes 5 seconds, next time 7 seconds, next time 10 seconds, pretty soon it
takes 20 seconds just to go from /Documents/Folder1 to
/Documents/Folder1/Subfolder1.  Meanwhile, everything else on the computer
is perfectly fast, including navigating around via the "Open" dialog boxes
in all applications.  It's JUST the desktop Explorer and the Windows
Explorer that get slow, and they only get slow after I've navigated around
for a little while during a given Windows session.  (Note: The problem
seems to be exacerbated when I browse to a deep folder; i.e. one like
/Documents/Sub/Sub2/Sub3/Sub4.  From then on, I can expect a progressively
slower and slower browsing experience.)
>
>Please, if anyone has any insight into this, I need to know.  My new
TP600X with Win98 and IE 5.01 is SO difficult to use with this problem.
And I don't know if there's any way to switch it to IE 4 (which might
perhaps eliminate the problem, although my Win95 machine had IE 5 and
didn't exhibit this behavior).
>
>Thanks!
>
>Ken
>(Owner of TP770ED and TP600X)
>kenzo@free-music.com


--=_alternative 0066BED887256870_=-- From cph Mon Jan 24 14:06:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA25347 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:06:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27834; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:04:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:03:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27716; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.actionwebs.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27702; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.actionwebs.net (216.5.9.4 -> apollo.actionwebs.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:03:25 -0500 Received: from ccs ([208.244.215.242]) by localhost.actionwebs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA24110 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:59:56 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Mark Lemon" To: Subject: Li-Ion Battery Died Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:59:29 -0600 Message-ID: <000f01bf66a5$86889c00$7700a8c0@ccs.candid.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <388A7B58.DEB40BAC@worldnet.att.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Folks, Last week, I had an 18 month old Li-Ion that showed about 80% charge literally "die" whilst on an airplane. The power switch didn't even elicit a beep. From that moment on, it would never hold any charge...the light on the TP600 just flashes orange whether the TP is turned on or off. A new battery solved the problem. My question is: is the old battery "savable"? Any tricks to bring it back? I'd prefer to use it as a backup when running the 600 on the adapter in the office (even if it only held 10 minutes charge), and keep the new one just for trips. Any suggestions? Mark From cph Mon Jan 24 14:16:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA25476 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:16:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28769; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:13:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28693; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28677; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (140.174.2.1 -> toad.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:13:14 -0500 Received: from ken2 ([208.199.120.209]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04715; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:13:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000124140754.00b50f00@mail.ny.viant.com> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Kenzo's Useful Mail Client v3 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:12:17 -0500 To: "STeve Andre'" , Thinkpad list From: Ken Subject: RE: [TP600X] Win98 Explorer gets extremely sluggish when navigating In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000124132432.00a06620@pilot.msu.edu> References: <4.2.0.58.20000124124930.00d2c290@mail.ny.viant.com> <388C8E8A.758634DF@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 01:24 PM 1/24/00 -0500, STeve Andre' wrote: >1. The disk may be new, but I'd try reorganizing the disk with something like >Norton Utilities Speed Disk, which can rearrange the swap file, which is >useful. I might try that. Although, I don't understand why Explorer would have a problem, but every other part of the OS can get to the files just fine, including File Open dialogs. >2. Look at the site annoyances.org in the Win98 section to see if they list this >particular behavior, and then go to the forum section and post your problem I looked there and every other Windows 95/98 site I could find, but nothing mentioned anything like this. >3. Goto microsoft.com and see if there might be some patches for IE 5.01 >which might deal with this problem. I did that as well. The machine came with IE 5.0, and I tried upgrading to 5.01 in case that might fix it (although the patch list didn't mention this problem), but the behavior didn't change. Thanks, Steve - Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph Mon Jan 24 14:47:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA25757 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:47:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02379; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:44:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:44:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02176; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02163; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:44:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.40 -> mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:44:17 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.37]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000124194414.WEBL27376@kaste> for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:44:14 +0000 Message-ID: <002501bf66a3$12eeb740$e024fea9@kaste> Reply-To: "Kaste" From: "Kaste" To: References: <17.dd6ffb.25bd262d@aol.com> <000e01bf663a$fcb32b40$e4fb1a3f@glen> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 730T Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:41:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Here is a tip. Use windows98 drivespace and you will get ~170mb, and with win95 you will only get 150ish. Garrett Kaste ----- Original Message ----- From: Balzac To: Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 2:16 AM Subject: Re: Thinkpad 730T > You'll need to DriveSpace the 105Mb drive in order to realistically get even > a minimal installation of Win95 on it. I've installed it successfully on a > drivespaced 105; leaves about half the drive free, but of course you can > burn that up fast too. > Unless you have access to CD-ROM drive that will workwith the 730T (which I > don't, yet) consider buying 2nd 105 or larger PCMCIA hard drive, and use it > to hold the Win95 CAB files. This makes installing MUCH. You only have to > get enough of an OS on the first(main) drive to boot and load up the > drivespaced data, then you can run the windows Install program locally, and > the CAB files take the place of the original CD-ROM. Later, you can use the > 2nd drive to get useable space by having two drives in the machine. > > Also enjoying the struggle, > Glen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 7:51 PM > Subject: Thinkpad 730T > > > > I'm having a problem with the Thinkpad 730T. I'm trying to install > operating > > systems on it--either DOS or Windows 95. I put the PCMCIA hard drive in > my > > laptop but I'm having problems getting Windows 95 loaded on the 105MB hard > > drive. Would appreciate any help form others who have this pen tablet and > > how they have installed operating systems on the pen computer using a > laptop > > Thanks, > > Jay Weinstein > > > From cph Mon Jan 24 14:51:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA25793 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:51:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03228; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:48:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:48:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03154; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:48:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from haupia.lava.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03124; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:48:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from haupia.lava.net (199.222.42.44 -> haupia.lava.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:48:05 -0500 Received: from lava.net(anunu036.lava.net[207.26.192.67]) (1753 bytes) by haupia.lava.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:48:02 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #2 built 1999-Dec-7) Message-ID: <388CAC66.580A42BE@lava.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:47:51 -1000 From: pirate X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Li-Ion Battery Died References: <000f01bf66a5$86889c00$7700a8c0@ccs.candid.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: --You know if it's still under warranty, I'd send it back for replacement. But if it isn't I'd call IBM anyway to see if there was a recall on that lot number. I know you can recondition ni-cads to a limited extent, but rechargeables are considered consumables and once they go south, they usually stay there. --Keith Mark Lemon wrote: > Folks, > > Last week, I had an 18 month old Li-Ion that showed about 80% charge > literally "die" whilst on an airplane. The power switch didn't even elicit > a beep. From that moment on, it would never hold any charge...the light on > the TP600 just flashes orange whether the TP is turned on or off. > > A new battery solved the problem. > > My question is: is the old battery "savable"? Any tricks to bring it back? > I'd prefer to use it as a backup when running the 600 on the adapter in the > office (even if it only held 10 minutes charge), and keep the new one just > for trips. > > Any suggestions? > > Mark -- Keith Wong System Admin - Document Imaging Honolulu Police Department - Records Division Office: (808) 529-3434 Emails: wongk007@hawaii.rr.com pirate@lava.net kwong@email.uophx.edu From cph Mon Jan 24 15:05:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA25935 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:05:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05170; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:03:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:03:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05074; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from kepler.pa.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05053; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from kepler.pa.msu.edu (35.8.48.107 -> kepler.pa.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:03:13 -0500 Received: from pa.msu.edu (senna.pa.msu.edu [35.8.50.35]) by kepler.pa.msu.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12525; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:03:09 -0500 (EST) Sender: rockwell@pa.msu.edu Message-ID: <388CAF95.5753ECDF@pa.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:01:25 +0000 From: Tom Rockwell Organization: MSUHEP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad Subject: new disk drives for 560x? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I notice that IBM has some new Travelstar drives coming out. One is the 18GT, which is 12mm 18Gb disk with an ATA-4 interface. Will one of these work in a 560x (model 70U)? The dimensions are the same, but the 560x uses an ATA-3 interface. If it won't work, what is the limitation? Thanks, Tom From cph Mon Jan 24 15:34:53 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA26215 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:34:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08528; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:32:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08428; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0k.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08415; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:32:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0k.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.40 -> www0k.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:32:02 -0500 Received: (qmail 14911 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jan 2000 20:32:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20000124203200.14910.qmail@www0k.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.40 by www0k for [206.146.7.2] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Mon Jan 24 20:32:00 GMT 2000 Date: 24 Jan 00 14:32:00 CST From: Rob Bell To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: [TP600X] Win98 Explorer gets extremely sluggish when navigating X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id PAA26216 This doesn't happen on my wife's 600E, nor does it happen on my 770 or our home system (all with Win98). I'd suggest looking at the settings Windows Explorer is using to display directory contents. I think you can get to this under 'Tools...Folder Options' in Explorer (not Internet Explorer). Try to make things as generic and non-web enabled as possible. Hopefully this points you in the right direction. Also check to see if you have installed any 3rd-party applications that provide Explorer shell extensions, such as things you can do when you right-click a file (VirusScan, WinZip, etc., etc.). One of these might be malfunctioning and causing the problem. HTH, Rob ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Mon Jan 24 16:07:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA26511 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:07:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11602; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:04:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:03:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11358; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11334; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:03:27 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA28319; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:03:21 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <005901bf66ae$8e7a8500$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: , References: <388BBB74.40B17149@worldnet.att.net> <388BBD1D.6F0DCE76@worldnet.att.net> Subject: [OT] Re: registry cleaners Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:04:07 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: I just saw this, and thought I'd remind anyone reading it that every registry cleaner known to science has been known to munge registries on occasion, so that backup is *essential*. For W95 I use the quick and stable ERU utility that comes with W95 (IBM is even nice enough to preinstall it on Thinkpads, otherwise get it from the W95 CD); I think the W98 scanreg utility can also do backups ( BTW, this utility works well on W95 too). If (as I believe) McCaffee is the company that bought Helix's Nuts & Bolts, I should add that this very cleaner once destroyed my TP560's registry. Nowadays I stick to the MS products (Regclean and Regmaid), as well as the relatively innocuous freeware reg cleaners >from two young Finnish programmers, Jouni Vuorio and Toni Helenius. - David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Janik" To: Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: registry cleaners Frank Janik wrote: > > Just Thought I Would Pass This By. > I Purchased McFee Deluxe UnInstall Program (In A Tide Looking Box). > It Was THe > Grand Total Of $12.95 + Tax at Coscto. One Of The Sub Programs Is Called > QuickClean > Cleanes Internet Files, Temp Files, and Low And Behold The Dark Cavaran > Called > The Registery, in Win 95b and win98 second edition. Installed This > Software In > The MUT a Homebrew Desktop, also a brand new i 1420 series. First Pass > on the > i 1420 series, the program cleaned out 151 invalid register enteries, > thats with > Win98 second edition. Cleaned Out Alittle less on the MUT running > win95b. > Mut and the 1420 seems to run alittle better, smoother, no out of > the > ordidary screens on startup. I Think That This Is Better Than Peanut > Butter From cph Mon Jan 24 16:24:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA26677 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:24:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13465; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:21:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:20:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13322; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13301; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (129.59.1.212 -> mailer2.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:20:26 -0500 Received: from lruby (A061018.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.61.18]) by mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/VU-3.0.2) with SMTP id PAA08449; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:20:16 -0600 (CST) From: "Ruby Lestari" To: , Subject: RE: Li-Ion Battery Died Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:16:06 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <000f01bf66a5$86889c00$7700a8c0@ccs.candid.com> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I have use my Li-Ion battery for more than 5 years now, I guess. Is it the time for me to buy a second back-up battery in case my battery died just like Mark's...?? Thanks for any response. In Dharma, Ruby Lestari Department of Mechanical Engineering School of Engineering - Vanderbilt University --------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Mark Lemon [mailto:mlemon@hickseq.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 1:59 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Li-Ion Battery Died Folks, Last week, I had an 18 month old Li-Ion that showed about 80% charge literally "die" whilst on an airplane. The power switch didn't even elicit a beep. From that moment on, it would never hold any charge...the light on the TP600 just flashes orange whether the TP is turned on or off. A new battery solved the problem. My question is: is the old battery "savable"? Any tricks to bring it back? I'd prefer to use it as a backup when running the 600 on the adapter in the office (even if it only held 10 minutes charge), and keep the new one just for trips. Any suggestions? Mark From cph Mon Jan 24 18:45:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA27909 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:45:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24710; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:43:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:42:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24586; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:42:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24540; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (206.127.32.35 -> tam.dorsai.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:42:33 -0500 Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA18874; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:46:38 -0500 (EST) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id SAA03419; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:46:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001242346.SAA03419@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Advice for Z50 newbies To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad list) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 100 18:46:37 -0500 (est) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Here's the best piece of advice I can give new owners of Workpad z50s. The trackpoint is set so depressing the little eraserhead is the same as left-clicking the mouse. Turn this feature off. It will screw you up when you're typing and your fingers brush against it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph Mon Jan 24 18:57:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA27998 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:57:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26071; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:55:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25997; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:55:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25983; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:55:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.34) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:55:40 -0500 Received: from basterfield.com ([139.92.219.12]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2000012423553123900b7am7e>; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:55:32 +0000 Message-ID: <388CE672.6B8E5A12@basterfield.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:55:30 +0000 From: Daniel Basterfield Organization: My middle name! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JWeinst436@aol.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 730T References: <17.dd6ffb.25bd262d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I had Win95 running on a 40MB PCMCIA drive, uncompressed. Choose your version carefully - the original retail requires only ~35MB for the setup & .CAB files, so you can easily get it installed on a 105MB drive. OSR 2.1 & 2.5 have IE 4 'integrated', so take up nearly twice the space. These two version do give you marginally better power management, though. I have some wisdoms on the 730 at http://www.basterfield.com/tp730 Cheers, Dan. -- Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" OS/2 Certified Engineer Microsoft Certified Professional ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm JWeinst436@aol.com wrote: > > I'm having a problem with the Thinkpad 730T. I'm trying to install operating > systems on it--either DOS or Windows 95. I put the PCMCIA hard drive in my > laptop but I'm having problems getting Windows 95 loaded on the 105MB hard > drive. Would appreciate any help form others who have this pen tablet and > how they have installed operating systems on the pen computer using a laptop > Thanks, > Jay Weinstein From cph Mon Jan 24 19:04:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA28040 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:04:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26729; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:02:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:02:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26651; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from haupia.lava.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26634; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:02:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from haupia.lava.net (199.222.42.44 -> haupia.lava.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:02:31 -0500 Received: from lava.net(anunu036.lava.net[207.26.192.67]) (1447 bytes) by haupia.lava.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:02:29 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #2 built 1999-Dec-7) Message-ID: <388CE803.5B030F7@lava.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:02:11 -1000 From: pirate X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Higgins , TP List Subject: Re: Advice for Z50 newbies References: <200001242346.SAA03419@amanda.dorsai.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: --Hey John do you realize that you're emailing us from the first century? All of your emails are dated December 31, 100. Time traveling are we? =) --Keith John Higgins wrote: > Here's the best piece of advice I can give new owners of Workpad z50s. The > trackpoint is set so depressing the little eraserhead is the same as > left-clicking the mouse. Turn this feature off. It will screw you up when > you're typing and your fingers brush against it. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > John M. Higgins > higgins@dorsai.org > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- Keith Wong System Admin - Document Imaging Honolulu Police Department - Records Division Office: (808) 529-3434 Emails: wongk007@hawaii.rr.com pirate@lava.net kwong@email.uophx.edu From cph Mon Jan 24 19:21:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA28138 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:21:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28105; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:19:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:19:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28000; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:19:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27987; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (206.127.32.35 -> tam.dorsai.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:19:16 -0500 Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA20197 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:24:43 -0500 (EST) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id TAA03636 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:24:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001250024.TAA03636@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Re: Advice for Z50 newbies (fwd) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad list) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 100 19:24:35 -0500 (est) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > > --Hey John do you realize that you're emailing us from the first century? All > of your emails are dated December 31, 100. Time traveling are we? =) > It's because the Workpad is so primative compared to a real laptop...It's like going back in time to the days of the TRS Model 100. It is apparently not obvious (since you are the fifth person today to note this) that I have *ZERO* control over what date my ISP chooses to use on any given day. I can stop forwarding information on cheap prices for equipment, however, if the date bugs too m any people.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph Mon Jan 24 20:00:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA28388 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:00:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00848; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:53:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:52:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00738; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:52:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00725; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:52:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:52:09 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax16.vramp.net [198.138.8.79]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA00261; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:51:55 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "John Higgins" , "Thinkpad list" Subject: RE: Advice for Z50 newbies (fwd) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:51:38 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200001250024.TAA03636@amanda.dorsai.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: John, I couldn't care less what century your ISP resides in, keep the info coming! The z50 is still selling at more than $800 on several sites, very confusing. Only problem I have now is, should I spring for the port replicator or rely on the IR links on my desktop and 600s. Regards, James > -----Original Message----- > From: John Higgins [mailto:higgins@dorsai.org] > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2893 6:44 PM > To: Thinkpad list > Subject: Re: Advice for Z50 newbies (fwd) > > > > > > --Hey John do you realize that you're emailing us from the first > century? All > > of your emails are dated December 31, 100. Time traveling are we? =) > > > > It's because the Workpad is so primative compared to a real > laptop...It's like going back in time to the days of the TRS Model 100. > > It is apparently not obvious (since you are the fifth person today to note > this) that I have *ZERO* control over what date my ISP chooses to > use on any given day. I can stop forwarding information on cheap prices > for equipment, however, if the date bugs too m any people.... > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > John M. Higgins > higgins@dorsai.org > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > From cph Mon Jan 24 20:26:04 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA28572 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:26:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03433; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:24:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:24:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03241; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:24:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03227; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:24:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (129.10.116.51 -> amber.ccs.neu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:24:00 -0500 Received: from zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id e0P1NqH03547; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:23:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id e0P1Npk06967; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:23:51 -0500 (EST) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: John Higgins Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad list) Subject: Re: Advice for Z50 newbies (fwd) References: <200001250024.TAA03636@amanda.dorsai.org> From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 24 Jan 2000 20:23:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: John Higgins's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 100 19:24:35 -0500 (est)" Message-ID: Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: John Higgins writes: > It is apparently not obvious (since you are the fifth person today to note > this) that I have *ZERO* control over what date my ISP chooses to > use on any given day. Howdy- Which mail user agent are you using? The date in a message (most often) comes from your mail client, not the ISP. Older versions of Elm have a known bug which does exactly this (puts the year 100 in the headers). We had to fix that here too (patched version can be found at ftp.virginia.edu:/pub/elm). Peace, dNb From cph Mon Jan 24 20:49:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA28726 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:49:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05331; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:46:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05224; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.actionwebs.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05211; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:46:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.actionwebs.net (216.5.9.4 -> apollo.actionwebs.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:46:55 -0500 Received: from ccs ([208.244.215.242]) by localhost.actionwebs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA08218; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:42:57 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Mark Lemon" To: "'James H. E. Maugham'" , "'Thinkpad list'" Subject: RE: Advice for Z50 newbies (fwd) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:42:19 -0600 Message-ID: <002501bf66dd$cd16eae0$7700a8c0@ccs.candid.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: James, IMHO, the included serial cable and sync software work great. I don't even plan to use the upgraded s/w on the MS site. The simpler this all is, the better value it becomes. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: James H. E. Maugham [mailto:CaptJHEM@waterw.com] > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 6:52 PM > To: John Higgins; Thinkpad list > Subject: RE: Advice for Z50 newbies (fwd) > <> > The z50 is still selling at more than $800 on several sites, very confusing. > Only problem I have now is, should I spring for the port replicator or rely on > the IR links on my desktop and 600s. > > Regards, > > James From cph Mon Jan 24 21:16:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA28908 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:16:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07362; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:14:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:12:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07194; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:12:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mail.gol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07181; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:12:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mail.gol.com (203.216.5.12 -> smtp02.mail.gol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:12:41 -0500 Received: from tc-1-073.nagoya.gol.ne.jp (tc-1-073.nagoya.gol.ne.jp [203.216.106.73]) by smtp02.mail.gol.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DACFD15775; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:12:36 +0900 (JST) From: "Stephen A. Carter" To: "ThinkPad list" Cc: "Stephen A. Carter" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:18:35 +0900 (JST) Reply-To: "Stephen A. Carter" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.1999 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [TP1484] Probs with DOS games Message-Id: <20000125021236.DACFD15775@smtp02.mail.gol.com> List-Unsubscribe: Got my wife a new i Series 1484 for her birthday, replacing her 535E. I used Partition Magic to create a primary FAT partition and installed PC DOS 7.0 with the Y2K upgrades/fixes. The machine has a 433 MHz Celeron CPU, 128 MB of RAM, an ESS Solo 1E audio chip, and an ATI Rage 64 Mobility-M video chip. I copied the three essolo files used when booting to MS-DOS mode in Win98SE to the PC DOS root directory (essolo.com, essolo.sys, and essolo.ini), and added the appropriate lines to the startup files. I also added "set BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T6" to autoexec.bat. The EMM386 line is "device=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS." I'm not using UNIVBE or anyt other special video drivers. Then I installed the games from the original CDs. Doom, Final Doom, Heretic, Chasm, Extreme Pinball, and a few others all run fine, with "SoundBlaster Pro" selected as the sound card. Blood and Shadow Warrior install without problem, but trying to run SETUP for either game immediately halts the system with an "error 12" in EMM386. Tomb Raider Gold installs and runs, but saving a game fails sporadically -- selecting "Save" causes about ten lines of text to be displayed for a split second (it goes by too fast to read), then the game immediately exits to DOS. A savegame file is created, but it has a file size of 0 kB. Any thoughts on what to check? -- Stephen A. Carter High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd. mailto:scarter@hticn.com Nagoya, Japan http://www2.gol.com/users/hticn/ PGP key ID: 0x59B4F7AD From cph Mon Jan 24 21:18:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA28915 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:18:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07726; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:16:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:16:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07635; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:16:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07617; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:16:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:16:34 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.14.6]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000125021628.ODWB7433@compaq>; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 02:16:28 +0000 Message-ID: <388D0758.747A@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:15:52 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen A. Carter" CC: ThinkPad list Subject: Re: [TP1484] Probs with DOS games References: <20000125021236.DACFD15775@smtp02.mail.gol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: There are some DOS games that will not run on a P2 or above (Tyrian, Xatax to name two) Stephen A. Carter wrote: > > Got my wife a new i Series 1484 for her birthday, replacing her 535E. > > I used Partition Magic to create a primary FAT partition and > installed PC DOS 7.0 with the Y2K upgrades/fixes. > > The machine has a 433 MHz Celeron CPU, 128 MB of RAM, an ESS Solo 1E > audio chip, and an ATI Rage 64 Mobility-M video chip. I copied the > three essolo files used when booting to MS-DOS mode in Win98SE to the > PC DOS root directory (essolo.com, essolo.sys, and essolo.ini), and > added the appropriate lines to the startup files. I also added "set > BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T6" to autoexec.bat. The EMM386 line is > "device=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS." I'm not using UNIVBE or anyt other > special video drivers. > > Then I installed the games from the original CDs. > > Doom, Final Doom, Heretic, Chasm, Extreme Pinball, and a few others > all run fine, with "SoundBlaster Pro" selected as the sound card. > > Blood and Shadow Warrior install without problem, but trying to run > SETUP for either game immediately halts the system with an "error 12" > in EMM386. > > Tomb Raider Gold installs and runs, but saving a game fails > sporadically -- selecting "Save" causes about ten lines of text to be > displayed for a split second (it goes by too fast to read), then the > game immediately exits to DOS. A savegame file is created, but it > has a file size of 0 kB. > > Any thoughts on what to check? > > -- > Stephen A. Carter High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd. > mailto:scarter@hticn.com Nagoya, Japan > http://www2.gol.com/users/hticn/ PGP key ID: 0x59B4F7AD From cph Mon Jan 24 21:39:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA29031 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:39:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09043; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:37:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:37:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08951; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:37:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08937; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:37:13 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax16.vramp.net [198.138.8.79]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA09915; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:37:13 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Advice for Z50 newbies (fwd) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:36:57 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <002501bf66dd$cd16eae0$7700a8c0@ccs.candid.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Mark Lemon [mailto:mlemon@hickseq.com] wrote: > James, > > IMHO, the included serial cable and sync software work great. > I don't even plan to use the upgraded s/w on the MS site. > The simpler this all is, the better value it becomes. Thanks Mark. I certainly hope that it's a less stressful experience than getting my c3 to link. I have yet to make the c3 work without problems when linking via IR with either of my 600s (one W98SE, one W2K RC3), and have completely given up attempting to link in _any_ manner to my wife's 600 running NT4 SP5, although I can't say that I've spent a lot of time on the attempt. Conversely, the c3 links just fine on my old, reliable 755CDs (W98SE and W2K RC2). Go figure. Regards, James From cph Mon Jan 24 21:42:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA29053 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:42:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09427; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:40:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09314; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09276; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:40:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.60 -> smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:40:08 -0500 Received: from 208-58-197-6.s514.tnt10.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([208.58.197.6] helo=desktop) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12Cvte-0005im-00 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:39:59 -0500 Message-ID: <012601bf66dd$6b072860$78c03ad0@desktop> From: "Donald Malcolm MacQueen" To: Subject: Y adapters? Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:39:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Where can I buy one of the Y adapters for my 560 that will let me connect both a keyboard and mouse at the same time? Thanks. Donald ---------------------------------------- Donald M. MacQueen Registered Smalltalk Bigot ---------------------------------------- I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk! ---------------------------------------- From cph Mon Jan 24 21:53:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA29103 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:53:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10600; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:50:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10512; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:50:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mail.gol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10227; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mail.gol.com (203.216.5.12 -> smtp02.mail.gol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:47:57 -0500 Received: from tc-1-073.nagoya.gol.ne.jp (tc-1-073.nagoya.gol.ne.jp [203.216.106.73]) by smtp02.mail.gol.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BFDE615780; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:47:50 +0900 (JST) From: "Stephen A. Carter" To: "ThinkPad list" Cc: "Stephen A. Carter" , "scosgt@worldnet.att.net" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:53:46 +0900 (JST) Reply-To: "Stephen A. Carter" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.1999 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <388D0758.747A@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP1484] Probs with DOS games Message-Id: <20000125024750.BFDE615780@smtp02.mail.gol.com> List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:15:52 -0500, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >There are some DOS games that will not run on a P2 or above (Tyrian, >Xatax to name two) At one point all the games I'm having problems with were happily running on a 380XD with a 266 MHz Mobile Pentium II, so that doesn't seem to be the problem here. -- Stephen A. Carter High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd. mailto:scarter@hticn.com Nagoya, Japan http://www2.gol.com/users/hticn/ PGP key ID: 0x59B4F7AD From cph Tue Jan 25 00:23:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA29852 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:23:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17130; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:20:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:19:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16986; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16973; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:19:33 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-403.gate.net [199.227.173.149]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA10424; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:19:21 -0500 Message-ID: <388D3274.53C818EC@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:19:48 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James H. E. Maugham" CC: John Higgins , Thinkpad list Subject: Re: Advice for Z50 newbies (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I don't think the port replicator offers any more than is already present.. the sales manual is not very forthcoming with these details.. and its called a workpad z50 docking kit.. "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > John, > > I couldn't care less what century your ISP resides in, keep the info coming! > > The z50 is still selling at more than $800 on several sites, very confusing. > Only problem I have now is, should I spring for the port replicator or rely on > the IR links on my desktop and 600s. > > Regards, > > James > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Higgins [mailto:higgins@dorsai.org] > > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2893 6:44 PM > > To: Thinkpad list > > Subject: Re: Advice for Z50 newbies (fwd) > > > > > > > > > > --Hey John do you realize that you're emailing us from the first > > century? All > > > of your emails are dated December 31, 100. Time traveling are we? =) > > > > > > > It's because the Workpad is so primative compared to a real > > laptop...It's like going back in time to the days of the TRS Model 100. > > > > It is apparently not obvious (since you are the fifth person today to note > > this) that I have *ZERO* control over what date my ISP chooses to > > use on any given day. I can stop forwarding information on cheap prices > > for equipment, however, if the date bugs too m any people.... > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > John M. Higgins > > higgins@dorsai.org > > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Tue Jan 25 00:28:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA29877 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:28:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17761; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:27:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:26:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17645; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:26:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17631; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:26:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:26:48 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-403.gate.net [199.227.173.149]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA27580; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:26:39 -0500 Message-ID: <388D342A.2F1FFFB3@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:27:06 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stan Jacobs CC: Jon , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Workpad z50 References: <01BF663D.FE416500@dial-16.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Stan... read the commentary by Mark Lemon further on in the list... its a good evaluation.. i got one for myself and one for my wife.. you just shut the display and open it and all is as you left it.. once through the opening splash screen... the worst feature so far is the manual says that the networking is very limited.. only for syncing data.. Stan Jacobs wrote: > On the Workpad z50. How do you store your work when you turn it off. Do you have to use flash memory card or pcmcia hard drive or will it maintain memory when off. If you want to run other programs do you have to have them on flash memory cards or a pcmcia drive. > > Thanks > Stan Jacobs > > ---------- > From: Bill Morrow[SMTP:penzance@icanect.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 6:33 PM > To: Jon > Cc: ThinkPad List > Subject: Re: Workpad z50 > > thats their profit.. my guess is real cost is about $240 to $250.. my cost is > $255.. plus 3% cc fee.. so my real cost is about $263 (need to add the half a > buck it costs to run a CC charge over and above the 3%) > i'll sell a few remaining units for $279 + $10 for next morning shipping and > take a CC, but all i earn is about $15.. > > i like the unit as it will fint in a slim attache case and do a whole lot of > detail keeping... > internet browsing, e-mailing, excel'ing, and much more.. > > if you guys do get some of these, get the port replicator and/or the parallel > printer cable option.. > > Jon wrote: > > > darn it !! I just ordered one from www.ecost.com > > the listed price is $265 + free shipping but BEware, upon the final > > screeen, there is > > this miraculous $9.99 ( or $9 i cant remember) Handling Fee !! So > > overall they give you free shipping but they throw in the handling fee. > > go figure > > > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > > and I have them for $279 > > > > > > i did not want to say this, but i suppose with all the other sources i > > > would be foolinh NOT to chime in.. :-) > > > > > > my guess is either IBM did not sell many of these and that they a > > > discontinuing the model, > > > or that there is a new model coming out with a TFT display or something > > > else, nice.. > > > > > > -- > > > Happy trails... > > > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Tue Jan 25 00:35:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA29914 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:35:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18248; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:32:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:32:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18154; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from elpaso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18141; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from elpaso.net (208.169.36.11 -> elpaso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:32:36 -0500 Received: from elpaso.net (elpaso-ppp6.elpaso.net [208.169.36.57]) by elpaso.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA07124 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:33:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <388D3398.EDA8C65@elpaso.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:24:41 -0600 From: Schaefer Reply-To: schaefer@elpaso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 730T Information Sources? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I will be getting a "loaded" 730T within the next week, and I'm looking for good sources of information on them. IBM's page doesn't offer much, and I would like to find users' homepages. I have only run across 2 or 3 pages on the 730T. Does anyone have any tips on the machine, or other useful info to share with me? Thanks a lot, I'm new to the list and already love reading it every day. Mike Schaefer (the only plans I have for my 730T so far, is to get a GPS module and hook it up in my DMC-12) ------------_________\/________--------------- 1981 Red DeLorean DMC-12 #1118 28k Miles, 5-speed, Black Leather, Heaven. "Be careful what you say, Be very careful what you don't say..." -----------__________/\________--------------- From cph Tue Jan 25 00:40:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA29929 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:40:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18855; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:39:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:39:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18758; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:39:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18744; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:39:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:39:38 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-403.gate.net [199.227.173.149]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA36262; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:39:31 -0500 Message-ID: <388D372B.447A6795@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:39:55 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stan Jacobs CC: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP , mharguspipelinecom , thinkpadcsutkedu Subject: Re: Hard Drive for 760's References: <01BF663E.00515940@dial-16.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: prechange, post change refers to the IBM/Toshiba agreement to change the IDE spec for drive select.. by reversing the master/slave select from master = jumper to master = no jumper.. are you using a jumper to make the drive a master..? (on your desktop) are you setting the bios for the drive..? that 540 sure sounds like a bad deal.. the drive password can't be removed.. at least i've not found a way to do it.. Stan Jacobs wrote: > What is meant by pre-change and post-change. Also, can anyone tell me how to use one of the laptop to regular IDE adapters. I bought one. I have tried it on three drives. One of which is a 170 I use in my laptop. My computer would see that drive. Windows wouldn't. Fdisk would. I couldn't do a directory on it in dos. Fdisk did wipe out my partition information and make it where I had to reformat it. But my desktop wouldn't see it to format it. I had to put it back in my laptop to format it. > > But now I have a 540 meg hard drive I just bought off e-bay which shows a hard drive password on my 750. The guy I bought it from said it was tested on a 755 and didn't show a password lock. I need to fdisk it so I can reformat it to use it. But of course my laptop won't even let me boot with a floppy when set to only boot from a floppy and my desktop won't see the drive. Fdisk sees it but says there is no space left for a partition and that there are no partitions to delete. Anybody got any ideas. > > Thanks > Stan Jacobs > > ---------- > From: Bill Morrow[SMTP:penzance@icanect.net] > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:49 PM > To: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP > Cc: mhargus@pipeline.com; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Hard Drive for 760's > > isolate the four drive select pins.. > there IS a difference.. > the 810meg is pre-change, the 2.1gig is post change.. > > i really need to explain this on my site, i suppose, so i don't wear my fingers > off every time.. :-) > > peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: > > > It's not that simple > > If you have a 810 MB caddy it will not work . > > If you have one of the larger caddies it should be fine from a hardware > > viewpoint. > > It still may not work from a Bios viewpoint. ;-} > > > > We just got bitten by this yesterday . > > I was swapping out a 810MB (DS0A-20810 ) from a 760E /760XL with a > > .3GB,( type DKLA-24320). > > > > The 760 could not see the HD , even the Bios Icon was greyed out. > > I grabed a different caddy from a 2.1GB and it works fine. > > The caddies are different and so is the "flex" connector. > > > > Weird part is that according to IBM's wab page, the pinouts of both drives > > are the same . > > ie default master/ slave C/S etc. > > > > I am about the buzz out both flex cables to figure this out. > > > > If anyone knows more , please let us know . > > > > ..Peter Machule > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 8:07 PM > > Subject: Hard Drive > > > > > Hello everyone. > > > > > > I have a question. > > > > > > I have aquired a hard drive which has the following number: 36L9293 and I > > beleive it is an option for the Thinkpad 600 and Thinkpad 570 series > > notebooks. I would like to know if I can use this hard drive in my Thinkpad > > 760ED? It is a 10 gig drive and is ATA-4 compliant. I know my 760 is not > > ata-4 compliant, but it should be backward compatible, right??? I do beleive > > this drive would be small enough to fit in the laptop (12.5mm), but I dont > > know if it is "compatible" with the 760ED "caddy". Any help would be gladly > > accepted! > > > > > > Thank you all, > > > > > > Matt > > > mhargus@pipeline.com > > > > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Tue Jan 25 00:42:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA29936 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:42:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19141; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:41:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:40:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19020; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19007; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:40:47 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-403.gate.net [199.227.173.149]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA30270; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:40:36 -0500 Message-ID: <388D376C.A2B3A336@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:41:00 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Quantrill CC: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP , Stan Jacobs , mharguspipelinecom , thinkpadcsutkedu Subject: Re: Hard Drive for 760's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: 750 should see up to a 6.4gig Adam Quantrill wrote: > Send it back if he can't supply the password - there is no way to reset it. > > Incidentally did you see my post about big hard disks - I've found that I can see a 4.3 GB IBM Travelstar perfectly well in my 755C, so there's a good chance it'll work in a 750 isn't there? They are so cheap these days. You just have to bend back or clip off the drive select pins on the drive connector, and slip it into the caddy. > > - Adam > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: RE: Hard Drive for 760's > Author: MIME:Stan Jacobs at INTERNET > Date: 1/24/00 12:44 PM > > What is meant by pre-change and post-change. Also, can anyone tell me how to use one of the laptop to regular IDE adapters. I bought one. I have tried it on three drives. One of which is a 170 I use in my laptop. My computer would see that drive. Windows wouldn't. Fdisk would. I couldn't do a directory on it in dos. Fdisk did wipe out my partition information and make it where I had to reformat it. But my desktop wouldn't see it to format it. I had to put it back in my laptop to format it. > > But now I have a 540 meg hard drive I just bought off e-bay which shows a hard drive password on my 750. The guy I bought it from said it was tested on a 755 and didn't show a password lock. I need to fdisk it so I can reformat it to use it. But of course my laptop won't even let me boot with a floppy when set to only boot from a floppy and my desktop won't see the drive. Fdisk sees it but says there is no space left for a partition and that there are no partitions to delete. Anybody got any ideas. > > Thanks Stan Jacobs > > ---------- > From: Bill Morrow[SMTP:penzance@icanect.net] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:49 PM > To: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP > Cc: mhargus@pipeline.com; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard Drive for 760's > > isolate the four drive select pins.. there IS a difference.. > the 810meg is pre-change, the 2.1gig is post change.. > > i really need to explain this on my site, i suppose, so i don't wear my fingers > off every time.. :-) > > peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: > > > It's not that simple > > If you have a 810 MB caddy it will not work . > > If you have one of the larger caddies it should be fine from a hardware > viewpoint. > > It still may not work from a Bios viewpoint. ;-} > > > We just got bitten by this yesterday . > > I was swapping out a 810MB (DS0A-20810 ) from a 760E /760XL with a > .3GB,( type DKLA-24320). > > > > The 760 could not see the HD , even the Bios Icon was greyed out. > I grabed a different caddy from a 2.1GB and it works fine. > > The caddies are different and so is the "flex" connector. > > > Weird part is that according to IBM's wab page, the pinouts of both drives > are the same . > > ie default master/ slave C/S etc. > > > I am about the buzz out both flex cables to figure this out. > > > If anyone knows more , please let us know . > > > ..Peter Machule > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 8:07 PM > Subject: Hard Drive > > > > > Hello everyone. > > > > > > I have a question. > > > > > > I have aquired a hard drive which has the following number: 36L9293 and I > beleive it is an option for the Thinkpad 600 and Thinkpad 570 series > > notebooks. I would like to know if I can use this hard drive in my Thinkpad > 760ED? It is a 10 gig drive and is ATA-4 compliant. I know my 760 is not > > ata-4 compliant, but it should be backward compatible, right??? I do beleive > this drive would be small enough to fit in the laptop (12.5mm), but I dont > > know if it is "compatible" with the 760ED "caddy". Any help would be gladly > accepted! > > > > > > Thank you all, > > > > > > Matt > > > mhargus@pipeline.com > > > > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston http://www.generics.co.uk > Cambridge CB2 5NH > United Kingdom > Registered in England No 2081960 > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Tue Jan 25 10:03:11 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA32058 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:03:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20884; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:58:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20557; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:58:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20543; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:58:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (209.38.73.28 -> snowmass.leopard.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:58:30 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: Subject: Shutting down W2K on 600X X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 From: Steve Hultquist Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 15:07:59 GMT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on snowmass/Leopard(Release 5.0 |March 30, 1999) at 01/25/2000 08:08:05 AM, Serialize complete at 01/25/2000 08:08:05 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0052367087256871_=" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0052367087256871_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Last night, after I was done working, I shutdown my 600X running W2K. I had sync'd the network file systems over the Internet before I shutdown, then told it to do it again as it shutdown. After sync'ing, explorer disappeared, the screen became just the background. Then nothing. No response to anything (c-a-del, esc, mouse buttons), although the sprite still moved when I touched the Trackpoint. I actually went to bed with the machine in that state. When I awoke this morning, it had shutdown. Has anyone else seen behavior like this? Any idea what might be causing it? ssh --=_alternative 0052367087256871_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Last night, after I was done working, I shutdown my 600X running W2K. I had sync'd the network file systems over the Internet before I shutdown, then told it to do it again as it shutdown. After sync'ing, explorer disappeared, the screen became just the background. Then nothing. No response to anything (c-a-del, esc, mouse buttons), although the sprite still moved when I touched the Trackpoint. I actually went to bed with the machine in that state. When I awoke this morning, it had shutdown.

Has anyone else seen behavior like this? Any idea what might be causing it?

ssh --=_alternative 0052367087256871_=-- From cph Tue Jan 25 17:05:10 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA05614 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:05:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25424; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:01:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25165; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24848; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (193.149.48.10 -> slarti.muc.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:58:07 -0500 Received: (qmail 28890 invoked by uid 66); 25 Jan 2000 22:03:25 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; Tue Jan 25 22:03:25 2000 -0000 Received: by seneca.muc.de (Postfix, from userid 0) id 0587BEB2F; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:40:25 +0100 (CET) From: Harald Milz Subject: Re: Workpad z50 "'Bill Morrow'" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu References: <01BF663D.FE416500@dial-16.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net> Organization: X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Message-Id: <20000125214025.0587BEB2F@seneca.muc.de> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:40:25 +0100 (CET) List-Unsubscribe: Stan Jacobs wrote: > On the Workpad z50. How do you store your work when you turn it off. Do you have to use flash memory card or pcmcia hard drive or will it maintain memory when off. If you want to run other programs do you have to have them on flash memory cards or a pcmcia drive. The Workpad 50z is a special IBM edition of the Palm which has a U2W SCSI (alternatively FC-AL) interface. You can attach any 36 gig IBM disk you like. Seriously, the device has a battery-buffered static RAM. -- The mome rath isn't born that could outgrabe me. -- Nicol Williamson From cph Tue Jan 25 17:16:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA05715 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:16:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26716; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:14:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26595; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:14:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26579; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:14:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.17 -> mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:14:46 -0500 Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.76.252]) by mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000125221439.TFRV12791@dts-jl> for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:14:39 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20000125171435.01346430@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:14:35 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Workpad z50 "'Bill Morrow'" In-Reply-To: <20000125214025.0587BEB2F@seneca.muc.de> References: <01BF663D.FE416500@dial-16.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:40 PM 1/25/00 +0100, Harald Milz wrote: >The Workpad 50z is a special IBM edition of the Palm which has a U2W SCSI >(alternatively FC-AL) interface. You can attach any 36 gig IBM disk you like. > The WorkPad Z50 is a WinCE device not an OEM Palm device. From cph Tue Jan 25 17:18:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA05734 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:18:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26960; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:16:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26885; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26872; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:16:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:16:46 -0500 Received: from user-38lcog1.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lcog1.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.98.1]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA21547 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:16:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001252216.RAA21547@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:15:17 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <200001231613.SAA45259@smtp.clinet.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DVD on OS/2? List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:32:10 +0200, Dominique Pivard wrote: I did a search on DVD and came up short; but asked the Online Assistant. Will let you know. If worst came to worst, I suppose there is always WinOS if not Win3.1 under OS/2. Surely DVD is around, though. Just never thought about it. > From cph Tue Jan 25 19:55:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA06982 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:55:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07569; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:53:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:53:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07433; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07295; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:48:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:48:59 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-72.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.72]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA21334 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:48:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000125195146.010bc500@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:51:46 -0800 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Workpad z50 "'Bill Morrow'" In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20000125171435.01346430@postoffice.worldnet.att.n et> References: <20000125214025.0587BEB2F@seneca.muc.de> <01BF663D.FE416500@dial-16.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 05:14 PM 01/25/2000 -0500, Jane Loyless wrote: >At 10:40 PM 1/25/00 +0100, Harald Milz wrote: > >>The Workpad 50z is a special IBM edition of the Palm which has a U2W SCSI >>(alternatively FC-AL) interface. You can attach any 36 gig IBM disk you >like. >> > >The WorkPad Z50 is a WinCE device not an OEM Palm device. Just like it doesn't support U2W SCSI devices! The above was a joke. :) ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Tue Jan 25 21:18:39 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA07593 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:18:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13118; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:16:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:15:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12984; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:15:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12970; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:15:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.60 -> smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:15:46 -0500 Received: from 216-164-138-122.s122.tnt5.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.138.122] helo=bilbobag) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12DHzk-0003fD-00 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:15:44 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:14:38 -0500 Message-ID: <01BF6779.303A63E0.lingenfr@erols.com> From: Bilbo Baggins To: "'thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU'" Subject: 701 Modem Upgrade Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:14:26 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Encoding: 3 TEXT List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know of a source for a 56kV.90 upgrade for the 701CS? Thanks. Rusty From cph Tue Jan 25 23:19:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA08293 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:19:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19226; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:18:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:17:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19050; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from area54.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19037; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:17:25 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from area54.net (205.177.191.50 -> mercury.mcummings.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:17:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by area54.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16280; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:17:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:17:12 -0500 (EST) To: Bilbo Baggins cc: "'thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU'" Subject: Re: 701 Modem Upgrade In-Reply-To: <01BF6779.303A63E0.lingenfr@erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: There is not one. Not for the internal modem anyway.. Get yourself a pcmcia one.. Michael On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Bilbo Baggins wrote: > Does anyone know of a source for a 56kV.90 upgrade for the 701CS? Thanks. > > Rusty > From cph Wed Jan 26 00:35:59 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA08689 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:35:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22508; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:34:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:34:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22388; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:34:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22375; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:34:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (193.149.48.10 -> slarti.muc.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:34:02 -0500 Received: (qmail 26468 invoked by uid 66); 26 Jan 2000 05:39:36 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; Wed Jan 26 05:39:36 2000 -0000 Received: by seneca.muc.de (Postfix, from userid 0) id D0C73EB95; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 01:57:09 +0100 (CET) From: Harald Milz Subject: Re: Workpad z50 "'Bill Morrow'" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu References: <01BF663D.FE416500@dial-16.r04.ncelrb.InfoAve.Net> <20000125214025.0587BEB2F@seneca.muc.de> Organization: X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Message-Id: <20000126005709.D0C73EB95@seneca.muc.de> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 01:57:09 +0100 (CET) List-Unsubscribe: Harald Milz wrote: > The Workpad 50z is a special IBM edition of the Palm which has a U2W SCSI > (alternatively FC-AL) interface. You can attach any 36 gig IBM disk you like. I am afraid I was off by one here. Sorry. -- The reward of a thing well done is to have done it. -- Emerson From cph Wed Jan 26 01:02:38 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA08805 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 01:02:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23738; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 01:01:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 01:00:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23633; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 01:00:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23619; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 01:00:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (24.25.227.35 -> hnlmail2.hawaii.rr.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 01:00:46 -0500 Received: from lava.net ([24.25.253.37]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:59:36 -1000 Message-ID: <388E8DCD.DA9B1591@lava.net> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:01:49 -1000 From: Keith Wong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "'thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU'" Subject: Re: 701 Modem Upgrade References: <01BF6779.303A63E0.lingenfr@erols.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: --I think everyone just buys the PCMCIA card modems. But I don't think you can replace the existing 14.4 with a 56k modem. If anyone on the list knows of a way, me and my 701c are listening. =) --Keith Honolulu, Hawaii Bilbo Baggins wrote: > Does anyone know of a source for a 56kV.90 upgrade for the 701CS? Thanks. > > Rusty From cph Wed Jan 26 05:07:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA09693 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 05:07:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05961; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 05:05:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 05:04:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05854; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 05:04:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.cutaway.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05836; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 05:04:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.cutaway.com (209.192.212.66 -> www.cutaway.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 05:04:36 -0500 Received: from nin (nin.cutaway.com [209.192.212.77]) by www.cutaway.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA22268; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 05:03:40 -0500 From: "Michael T Rowan" To: "Jane Loyless" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: RE: Workpad z50 "'Bill Morrow'" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 05:08:10 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20000125171435.01346430@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> List-Unsubscribe: Did you read this? Tell me what Palm you can attach a 36G disk to, I wanna buy one ;-) It was a joke, methinks. Although I can imagine someone on this list making the connection work just to screw with everyones head... > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Loyless [mailto:jloyless@netbox.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 5:15 PM > To: ThinkPad Mailing List > Subject: Re: Workpad z50 "'Bill Morrow'" > > > At 10:40 PM 1/25/00 +0100, Harald Milz wrote: > > >The Workpad 50z is a special IBM edition of the Palm which has a U2W SCSI > >(alternatively FC-AL) interface. You can attach any 36 gig IBM disk you > like. > > > > The WorkPad Z50 is a WinCE device not an OEM Palm device. From cph Wed Jan 26 08:20:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA10481 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:20:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18650; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:18:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18527; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:18:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18514; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:18:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.62 -> smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:18:11 -0500 Received: from 216-164-137-162.s416.tnt4.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.137.162] helo=potassium) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12DSKm-0005Aa-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:18:08 -0500 Message-ID: <388EF2D3.6500@erols.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:12:51 -0500 From: Rick Rodman Reply-To: ricker@erols.com Organization: Purple Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 730T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I'm still struggling too, getting the 105MB card partitioned and initialized correctly. Here is a link which I have found very helpful: http://www.basterfield.com/tp730/ I've been able to find Pen Services for Windows 1.0 (for 3.1) and 2.0 (for 95) on the Internet. I was unable to initialize the 105MB hard drive or copy files to it under Windows NT on a Dell laptop. And, believe it or not, Dell does not support DOS on their laptops!!! (That's just ONE of the many horror stories. Save yourself grief and avoid Dell laptops like the plague.) From cph Wed Jan 26 11:52:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA11819 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:52:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03408; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:48:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:46:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03134; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03120; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:46:21 -0500 Received: from default (pool-207-205-177-19.phnx.grid.net [207.205.177.19]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA31484 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:46:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000901bf681c$8d274fc0$13b1cdcf@default> From: "Chris Wright" To: Subject: Drivers for DOS Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:44:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know whare to get PCMCIA slot card reader drivers for DOS? I have it set up through Win98 BUT I need it to also exist in DOS. I tried editing my config.sys file and add the lines into it as they are shown through Win98 in the driver details.....but my computer hangs in boot up. Help Chris From cph Wed Jan 26 12:27:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA12156 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:27:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07044; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:25:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:24:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06901; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.internal (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06869; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.internal (209.166.154.244 -> isdn244.vocollect.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:24:42 -0500 Received: from brianbnt5 (brianb-nt5.internal [172.31.5.89]) by mail.internal (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA05928 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:21:39 -0500 From: "Brian Bender" To: "'Thinkpads list'" Subject: TP600 -- USB stable? Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:22:32 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01bf6821$eebe6d90$59051fac@brianbnt5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: Hi folks, I'm trying to chase a hardware glitch and looking for data points. Just in the last 2 days I've had 4 BSODs in NT5 -- one with RC3 and 3 after the upgrade to RTM (OK, you can stop snickering -- I know all the jokes, but I can usually set up a pretty stable NT machine ). I turned the machine off, turned it back on w/ {F1} held to get into easy-setup. It never made it through the POST -- it buzzed for 5 seconds or so and turned back off. I killed power (recessed reset button, no AC, no battery attached), hooked it back up & still wouldn't turn on. I pulled the 128MB dimm out, and it powered up fine. I ran the RAM test in easy setup on the full 224MB (cripes, it takes about an hour and a half with that much!), and everything passed fine, but it's fairly intermittent so I'm not surprised. I've repeated this scenario every time -- machine won't make it through the POST until I pull that DIMM. So it really smells like the DIMM is bad, right? FWIW, I've had it happen in both DIMM slots. It's being replaced (from Crucial -- sorry Bill, it was ordered as part of a group purchase at work, and not ordered by me! but I'll be back!). But in the mean time, I have one other little issue bugging me -- all of these BSODs happened right after I had enabled the USB port on the machine (wanted to try out a coworker's USB joystick ). So while I'm waiting for the RAM to cross-ship, I'm running the rest of the day with it in and the USB port disabled again (and when I get the new RAM I'll run it with the USB enabled for a while, just to see). Has anyone had any trouble with the 600 related to the USB port? Thanks (and sorry -- this ended up a little more long-winded than I expected) - Brian Bender TP600: PII-300, 10GB HDD (NT5) / 5GB HDD (Slack7), 224MB of marginally stable RAM From cph Wed Jan 26 13:23:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA12524 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:23:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11544; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:20:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:10:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10774; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from f04n01.cac.psu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10760; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from f04n01.cac.psu.edu (128.118.141.31 -> f04s01.cac.psu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:10:47 -0500 Received: from dell-xps-t500 (access-isdn1-14.hbg.psu.edu [146.186.228.144]) by f04n01.cac.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA61314 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:10:44 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000126125911.00a6ea90@mail.psu.edu> X-Sender: rfm@mail.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:08:01 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bob Munzenrider Subject: Re:Modem for a 701 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I went through a search process last year to upgrade the modem for my 701. There's no internal replacement, so I went the pcmcia card route. I bought a couple different "bargain" 56k cards, and neither one would work. I finally ended up getting a XIRCON card, a combined 10/100 ethernet and a 56k modem that works like a champ. It's specs only go up to V.34, but maybe there's a more recent model? XIRCON may well make a V.90 version now, I don't know. They also may make a card that has only the modem - again I don't know. The tech guy at school that did the configuration said something about having to disable the internal modem, but I forget the details. Bob Munzenrider Penn State Harrisburg > ------------------------------------------------- >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:14:26 -0500 >From: Bilbo Baggins >To: "'thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU'" >Subject: 701 Modem Upgrade >Message-Id: <01BF6779.303A63E0.lingenfr@erols.com> > >Does anyone know of a source for a 56kV.90 upgrade for the 701CS? Thanks. > >Rusty > >In-Reply-To: <01BF6779.303A63E0.lingenfr@erols.com> >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:17:12 -0500 >From: >To: Bilbo Baggins >CC: "'thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU'" >Subject: Re: 701 Modem Upgrade >Message-Id: > >There is not one. Not for the internal modem anyway.. > >Get yourself a pcmcia one.. > >Michael From cph Wed Jan 26 13:43:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA12675 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:43:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13640; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:41:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:40:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13523; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13510; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.40 -> mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:40:47 -0500 Received: from 701c ([129.37.244.223]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000126184044.MAZM27376@701c> for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:40:44 +0000 Message-ID: <01d301bf682c$df737a00$dff42581@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Thinkpad 730T Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:52:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello everybody. Anyone looking for support for the 730T. I can make a "Mirror" of a drive if anyone needs one. This would require that one have a floppy drive or Thinkpad on the net. Also, the 701 C/CS supports the PCMCIA harddrive in BIOS, so if you find someone with one of the 'butterflys', then you will find things much easier. As always, have fun. Rudolph J. R. Wratten P.O. Box 2202 San Antonio,Texas 78298-2202 From cph Wed Jan 26 14:12:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA13008 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:12:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16712; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:11:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16576; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from f04n01.cac.psu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16560; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:11:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from f04n01.cac.psu.edu (128.118.141.31 -> f04s01.cac.psu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:11:14 -0500 Received: from dell-xps-t500 (access-isdn1-14.hbg.psu.edu [146.186.228.144]) by f04n01.cac.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA41266 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:11:11 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000126130858.00a70520@mail.psu.edu> X-Sender: rfm@mail.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:08:30 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bob Munzenrider Subject: Upgrading CPU on a ThinkPad 701 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Well, I finally bit the bullet (More accurately, I persuaded my masters at school to bite it...) and upgraded the CPU on my TP701 (486/75) to one of those AMD 5X86P75 DX5-133 CPUs. Maximum Upgrades did the work. The machine is back and seems to work just fine, and certainly more "smartly" than it did before, although the underside of the case is noticeably hotter after the machine's been running awhile that it used to get with the 486/75 installed. Machine: TP701, with 40 megs of RAM, a 4-gig Toshiba hard drive, Win95 SR1 Specs (From Maximum Upgrades, with a program called Safbench v2.34)): Pre-installation: Rated as equivalent of a Pentium with a 46.29 MHz CPU and 37.16 MHz FPU Post-installation: 86.91 73.02 Norton SI (From Maximum, and I surmize against a base of 4.77 MHz 8088): Pre: 95.4 Post: 287.9 Norton SI (My own, from Norton SystemWorks v. 2 -- base is 386sx/16): Pre: 6.8 Post: 12.4 My seat of pants evaluation: 1. The machine boots up a lot faster. It used to take 3+ minutes to load, now it does it in a little more than one minute 2. I have a 800k+ file I'm working on - a manual with lots of graphics in it - small screenprints (@ 2x4"). I'm working with MS Word97. With the 475 CPU, the machine didn't really scroll thru the document; it sort of "Stuttered" through it, with lags of 20-30 seconds to form the graphic images. With the AMD 133 CPU, the machine scrolls smoothly, and images form with a 1-2 second lag. Bearable. 3. Graphics-intensive PowerPoint97 files run much more quickly that before. No major lags as graphic images form on slides. Bulleted points move onto the screen at a nice pace, rather than crawling as they used to. My major concern: The heat generated by the CPU. My conclusion: The upgrade cost $295. Was it worth it? Yes, given that I'm a die-hard 701 fan. But the CPU upgrade alone might not do it. I've also installed an extra 32 megs of RAM and a 4-gig hard drive. So I have an extra $700 sunk in the machine - probably more like $900 with the XIRCON 10/100 Ethernet & 56k Modem pcmcia card installed. The combination of all four of these upgrades makes it STILL a usable machine -- if the heat doesn't cook it. The machine ain't no TP600, but it gets the work done that I need to do. I have no complaints with Maximum Upgrades. They received the machine last Wednesday, cleaned it, upgraded the CPU, ran an overnight test routine, and shipped it out on Friday. I got it back yesterday (Tuesday). Well-packed, and it booted right up. One question: As I mix & match peripherals with the machine & re-boot - things like the port replicator, and swapping the external floppy drive for a ZIP drive, a strange thing shows up on the Win95 opening screen. Across the bottom of the opening screen, there's a little blue line that moves back and forth as the system configures itself. (I'm not sure of the correct name for this gizmo). Anyway, now as I swap components, that blue line is interspersed with yellow blocks every so often. Anybody have any idea what these yellow blocks are all about? Bob Munzenrider Penn State Harrisburg rfm@psu.edu From cph Wed Jan 26 14:39:59 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA13279 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:39:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19581; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:38:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19484; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:38:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19455; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:38:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64 -> pohl.acpub.duke.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:38:03 -0500 Received: from godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (ecw1@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.46]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id OAA18026; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:33:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ecw1@localhost) by godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id OAA05136; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:33:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:33:32 -0500 (EST) From: Erin Cressida Wilson X-Sender: ecw1@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: i have a thinkpad 380D and a question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hello.... I'm a professor at Duke Univeristy, am about to go to Europe, but must be able to conduct my e mail communication in a remote area of Scotland. I am thinking of renting an Ericsson cell phone but can get no hlep from IBM on this. My question is that the ERicsson requires that my computer be configured for infrared communication. ONce I know that it is, or how I can go about making it so, i need to get IRDA Driver software. But what I don't know is, is my model configured for this type of thing. I am desperate, can get answers from nobody, thought you might be able to help, Erin Wilson From cph Wed Jan 26 14:49:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA13387 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:49:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20128; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:43:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:43:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20016; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot007.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19985; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:43:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot007.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.107 -> pilot007.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:43:36 -0500 Received: from andres (andres-53.user.msu.edu [35.10.64.67]) by pilot007.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA38820 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:43:31 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000126144411.009e4db0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:44:11 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Zone 4 Theory In-Reply-To: <199906270042.RAA05389@www.az.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: The entire "region" garbage system that the RIAA and MPAA imposed on the world really sickens me. *SOME* systems will let you change the region code but only if you dig deep into the system and figure out how it all works, else you can't, without reloading the entire operating system and trying again. As an example IBM says you can ONLY change regions on the i Series 1472 by reinstalling the OS. This is of course nonsense, but thats the party line. Now that there are programs out there to defeat that, there is a new system out, or perhaps I should say an original idea is being implemented which is that the region code can be changed five times, and thats it. My i Series 1480 has this "feature". In order to accomplish this, the hardware has in its firmware a counter that increments for each region code change, and refuses to work after its been changed a fifth time. I suspect that this counter is really something in some form of alterable ROM (EAROM? Flash?) which is how its recorded--and is thus defeatable, but I haven't had the time or anger yet to dig into the hardware to really look at things. If the counter is stored in alterable ROM, then it will be interesting to see if can be reset. I can see ways in which I could make it awfully hard to reset it... I really resent the fact that this was done. All hail the mighty dollar! --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 05:49 PM 6/26/99 -0800, LightSide wrote: >On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 18:11:40 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: > >>there is/are a small utility that will change the region.. >>i have a copy of one, someplace here, but i have never used it.. :-) >> >>other versions of the same thing should be around..! > >First and foremost I must state that the following statement is purely in the academic thought process not >something I'd do or suggest anyone do. > >So if there is a *SOFTWARE* solution to change the regions, then would it be reasonable to theorize that the >chip inside is like a variable position switch that allows changing between different zones? Or is it a one time >thing. Change it once and that's where it'll be forever? And if it is a software control, then would it also be >reasonable to say that *IN THEORY* one could program a desktop control panel to "switch" to whatever >zone they wanted? > >>From a geek standpoint, I find that quite fascinating. :) > >Robert From cph Wed Jan 26 15:03:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA13522 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:03:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22259; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:00:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:00:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22144; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:00:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22130; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:00:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.61 -> smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:00:45 -0500 Received: from 207-172-50-15.s269.tnt7.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([207.172.50.15] helo=bilbobag) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12DYcN-0000pO-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:00:44 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:59:19 -0500 Message-ID: <01BF680D.EC4B88E0.lingenfr@erols.com> From: Bilbo Baggins To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: 701 Modem Upgrade Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:42:36 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I probably should have been clearer. I am looking to upgrade the internal 14.4 modem to 56kV.90. I already have a PCMCIA 56kV.90. I ask since there is a 33.6 upgrade for the PC110, I thought there might be a similar upgrade for the 701. I intend to run Linux on mine, so an mwave modem would not do me any good. Thanks. Rusty From cph Wed Jan 26 15:18:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA13704 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:18:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23914; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:15:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23744; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23729; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:15:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (209.38.73.28 -> snowmass.leopard.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:15:51 -0500 To: "Brian Bender" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600 -- USB stable? X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 From: Steve Hultquist Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 20:25:24 GMT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on snowmass/Leopard(Release 5.0 |March 30, 1999) at 01/26/2000 01:25:30 PM, Serialize complete at 01/26/2000 01:25:30 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006F450687256872_=" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006F450687256872_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am using USB for keyboard and mouse and have done it on both a 600E (Win98 and Win2k) and 600X (Win2k). It's worked fine. ssh --=_alternative 006F450687256872_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
I am using USB for keyboard and mouse and have done it on both a 600E (Win98 and Win2k) and 600X (Win2k). It's worked fine.

ssh --=_alternative 006F450687256872_=-- From cph Wed Jan 26 15:37:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA13918 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:37:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25703; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:35:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:35:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25609; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25593; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:35:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU (156.26.1.1 -> WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:35:31 -0500 Received: from WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU by WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3148) id <01JL5WQMN7SG8WY8E8@WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:35:05 CST Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:35:05 -0600 (CST) From: Jon Subject: enchanced adapter & DD To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: HOw do we get the dolby digital surround to work with a Home entertainment system ?? I assume the enchanced video adapter has a Dolby digital(ac-3) decoding built - in ? Do we still need a dolby digital preamp/surround ?? Can we just hook the thing up to a 5.1 channel amplifier ?? BAsed on the socket (s video) i think we need another external dolby digital decorder as i rarely see an amps that has s-video in !! If that is the case what is the point for Dolby Digital surround then ??? I called IBM support line and they do not know anything neither. HELP From cph Wed Jan 26 17:14:00 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA14798 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:14:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03047; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:11:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:09:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02710; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02697; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:09:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (206.184.139.15 -> proxy4.ba.best.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:09:07 -0500 Received: from dgoldman (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id OAA11726 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:06:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.1.20000126140055.00de9100@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:06:44 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re:Modem for a 701 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000126125911.00a6ea90@mail.psu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:08 AM 1/26/2000 , Bob Munzenrider wrote: >I went through a search process last year to upgrade the modem for my 701. There's no internal replacement, so I went the pcmcia card route. I bought a couple different "bargain" 56k cards, and neither one would work. I finally ended up getting a XIRCON card, a combined 10/100 ethernet and a 56k modem that works like a champ. It's specs only go up to V.34, but maybe there's a more recent model? XIRCON may well make a V.90 version now, I don't know. They also may make a card that has only the modem - again I don't know. Xircom *DOES* make a V.90 + 10/100 Ethernet combo card. Check their web site and you are likely to find that your V.34 version is flash upgradable. They also do offer a V.90 modem only card as well as a 10/100 Ethernet only card. Be careful when buying the Xircom cards. They have both 16 and 32 bit (Cardbus) versions of the combo card. I use one of the combo cards (V.90 + 10/100 Ethernet) on my TP380z under both NT3 (SP4) and OS/2 Warp 4 without problem. Xircom: http://www.xircom.com -- David Goldman From cph Wed Jan 26 17:23:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA14879 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:23:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04225; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:20:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03941; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03927; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:20:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (38.8.20.2 -> relay20.smtp.psi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:20:30 -0500 Received: from [204.215.186.11] (helo=ntmail.doble.com) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu id 12Danc-0007Hj-00; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:20:28 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:16:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: Workpad z50 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:16:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Hello, Even though I have a Palm III, a TP365ED, and 3+ desktop computers (not to mention the H8 CPM and CoCo III antiques) I bought one of these z50s. The major selling point was the price 8->. I figure I can use it when I need something more than a Palm but less than full laptop. The longer life battery will be more useful compared to the laptop. Too bad it could not fit in the pocket like the HP95. It seems 16 Megs is a good memory size for a WinCE machine but 48 Megs is better 8->. I do not travel much but this looks like a good machine to store notes, do some web browsing, and play games. The 33.6 modem is fast enough for my purposes. I got it setup for my ISP and did some web browsing. The 640x480 resolution requires you to do side to side scrolling to read some web pages. It is interesting to see it has support for PCMCIA NE2000 type ethernet cards (I may have one). The docs seem to indicate that I can use TCP/IP over the network to access the internet. I noticed there are other internet utilities for WinCE like ftp and IRC so I may see if I could use ftp to transfer files to and from the WinCE machine. I need to research it more. I did download a IRC program and could connect to the server but it is only single channel at a time 8-<. The surprise so far is that Adaptec has WinCE drivers for the APA-1460 SCSI card and it appears I can hook my Zip drive up to it. So there is one card that can be used for both the WinCE machine and the laptop. The IBM 340 Meg microdrive looks interesting but I have not run out of space yet 8->. I have a digital camera but unfortunely it takes SmartMedia and not Compact Flash. It looks like I could get a reader for my desktop that can read both formats if I get compact flash. I have a PCMCIA adapter for SmartMedia and wonder if it will work in the WinCE machine. The only disappointment so far is that Solus 1.5 (I bought the z50 for map display) does not run on WinCE 2.11 but I suspect Delorme will fix that. The Microsoft Pocket Streets that is on the CD that comes with the z50 does not seem to have GPS capability. So I got some more experimenting and downloading to do! It would be nice if I could display pictures from my digital camera on the WinCE machine. It is interesting to go to www.streetprices.com and www.pricewatch.com and see listings of the z50 units for $700 to $900. One dealer has them for $500. Thanks to the list for the heads up on the deals. I would like to get some options like the 32k memory but do I get it now or wait a while until the price drops? 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 12:27 AM To: Stan Jacobs Cc: Jon; ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Workpad z50 Stan... read the commentary by Mark Lemon further on in the list... its a good evaluation.. i got one for myself and one for my wife.. you just shut the display and open it and all is as you left it.. once through the opening splash screen... the worst feature so far is the manual says that the networking is very limited.. only for syncing data.. From cph Wed Jan 26 17:24:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA14885 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:24:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04519; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:21:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04127; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04060; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:21:25 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (12.5.48.10 -> fantasia.stormhaven.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:21:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10309; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:21:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:21:24 -0500 (EST) To: thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <6b.da7d7e.25b75ecb@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Well folks, I gave my 560 to my sister and am currently laptop-less for the foreseeable future. My portable computing requirements are converging more towards the PDA/ultralight end; a field IBM is rather weak in at the moment. So I'll be drawing my subscription to a close. This list began when a bunch of us in comp.sys.laptops were discussing our (then new) TP750s. I made a comment in jest that we could band together to get IBM to listen to our concerns about the Thinkpads. Someone took it seriously and started what eventually became this mailing list. It's been long running, and an enormously helpful resource during the 7 years I've owned Thinkpads. I bid you all farewell, and thanks for all the help. Unsubscribe me please Keith. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph Wed Jan 26 17:31:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA14943 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:31:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05281; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:28:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05041; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:28:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05025; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:28:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (38.8.20.2 -> relay20.smtp.psi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:28:29 -0500 Received: from [204.215.186.11] (helo=ntmail.doble.com) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 12DavL-0007f2-00; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:28:27 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:24:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'kim@stormhaven.org'" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Unsubscribe Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:24:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Hello, Sorry to see you go. Maybe you could pick up one of these cheap Workpad z50s and rejoin the fun. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com -----Original Message----- From: kim@stormhaven.org [mailto:kim@stormhaven.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 5:21 PM To: thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Unsubscribe Well folks, I gave my 560 to my sister and am currently laptop-less for the foreseeable future. My portable computing requirements are converging more towards the PDA/ultralight end; a field IBM is rather weak in at the moment. So I'll be drawing my subscription to a close. From cph Wed Jan 26 19:40:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA15732 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:40:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13977; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:38:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:38:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13875; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:38:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13820; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:37:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (200.36.38.5 -> CHAPALA.lagunanet.net.mx) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:38:11 -0500 Received: from 148.243.6.101 ([148.243.6.101]) by chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (Build 93 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA00402; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:33:22 -0600 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: rfm@psu.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Modem for a 701 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:32:04 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: <0u0j44mipRyW092yn@islandnet.com> References: <4.2.2.20000126125911.00a6ea90@mail.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000126125911.00a6ea90@mail.psu.edu> Lines: 28 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: If expense is an object, you might try going for a 33.6 modem. When I got mine, they were considerably cheaper than 56K on ebay. I had some configuration problems with my IBM 28.8 > 33.6 modem, but since I got those figured out, it works like a champ. You really can get 33.6 connections from a 33.6 card. You can never get 56 connections from a 56 card. One annoyance is that if you get your modem and ethernet on separate PCMCIA cards, you may end up not being able to use both at the same time because the dongly thing on the ethernet, when it is in the top PCMCIA slot, can coincide with where the butterfly keyboard wants to be. Anybody encountered replacement donglies that avoid such a problem? My ethernet is an IBM Home-and-away, and it works great. Win95a, 40 MB ... >701. There's no internal replacement, so I went the pcmcia card route. I >bought a couple different "bargain" 56k cards, and neither one would >work. -- cheers Jonathan From cph Wed Jan 26 19:49:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA15775 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:49:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14718; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:48:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14625; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:48:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14611; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (206.191.0.217 -> mx1.magmacom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:48:02 -0500 Received: from mail2.magma.ca (mail2y.magma.ca [206.191.0.227]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03631 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew (x2port8.magma.ca [206.191.28.8]) by mail2.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA13400 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:47:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001270047.TAA13400@mail2.magma.ca> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:44:03 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Workpad z50 on egghead.com List-Unsubscribe: Current bid range is $149-$259. 70 units available, it sounds like new batches are post daily. http://www.egghead.com/category/inv/00000631/02455041.htm?source=DIg eneral I'm still not quite clear on how I would use this to complement my TP600. Seriously, what will it do for me that my 600 won't? Or is it more something I'd want if I had a desktop machine, or maybe a 770 (or Dell 7500 type anchor)? Thanks! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Wed Jan 26 21:39:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA16463 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:39:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21912; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:37:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:35:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21739; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21726; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:35:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:35:18 -0500 Received: from user-38lcjt2.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lcjt2.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.79.162]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA12429 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:35:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001270235.VAA12429@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:33:49 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000126130858.00a70520@mail.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Upgrading CPU on a ThinkPad 701 List-Unsubscribe: I had similar results bumping up a desktop from a 486 to a AMD133 with 48Mb RAM, but expanding the L2 cache to 1Mb really helped. It benches as a P90 on the Norton SI. The notebooks could pick up a considerable boost by merely uping the L2 cache size. 32 bit OS's like a good cache. And yes, even Win95 is a 32 bit OS (well, sort of). On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:08:30 -0500, Bob Munzenrider wrote: >Upgrades From cph Wed Jan 26 21:40:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA16477 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:40:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22169; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:39:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:39:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22072; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22042; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:39:11 -0500 Received: from user-38lcjt2.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lcjt2.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.79.162]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA25851 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:39:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001270239.VAA25851@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:37:42 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <200001270047.TAA13400@mail2.magma.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PC Card USB port? List-Unsubscribe: Can anyone point me to a PC Card USB port for my TP760XL? I want to hook a digital microscope to the unit. The scope only has a USB port. The TP has no USB port. So, somehow I gotta convert the USB port on the scope to either a serial or printer port, or find a card that provides a USB connector. Thanks. Allan Ballard From cph Wed Jan 26 21:45:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA16521 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:45:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22601; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:44:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:43:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22510; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:43:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22479; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:43:55 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA05123 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:43:52 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <002301bf6870$75c47b60$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad mailing list" Subject: Re: Modem for a 701 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:44:40 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: > If expense is an object, you might try going for a 33.6 modem. > When I got mine, they were considerably cheaper than 56K on > ebay. I had some configuration problems with my IBM 28.8 > 33.6 > modem, but since I got those figured out, it works like a > champ. [snip] FWIW, the IBM "International" 33.6 pcmcia modem works like a champ on the 701 and has a perfectly flat dongle (which is much thinner than the PC card itself). These are often available on ebay for $20 (plus/minus $5), though there are usually sold as 28.8k modems - they can be flash upgraded to 33.6, however, with sw from the IBM website. Oh, and you get the added benefit of the "international" feature, if you travel out of the USA. - David R. From cph Wed Jan 26 21:52:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA16569 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:52:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23212; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:47:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:47:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23128; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23115; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:47:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:47:22 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA05159 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:47:16 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <003301bf6870$ef966520$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: References: Subject: Au Revoir (was: Re: Unsubscribe) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:48:04 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: I concur with Eric's first sentence. However, as the saying goes, let's not say goodbye, just au revoir:-) - David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 12:24 PM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe Hello, Sorry to see you go. Maybe you could pick up one of these cheap Workpad z50s and rejoin the fun. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com -----Original Message----- From: kim@stormhaven.org [mailto:kim@stormhaven.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 5:21 PM To: thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Unsubscribe Well folks, I gave my 560 to my sister and am currently laptop-less for the foreseeable future. My portable computing requirements are converging more towards the PDA/ultralight end; a field IBM is rather weak in at the moment. So I'll be drawing my subscription to a close. From cph Wed Jan 26 22:15:00 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA16765 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:15:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24713; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:09:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24623; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet.sover.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24610; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:09:22 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from garnet.sover.net (209.198.87.53 -> garnet.sover.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:09:22 -0500 Received: from sover.net (arc1a20.bf.sover.net [207.136.202.21]) by garnet.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA23582; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:09:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001270309.WAA23582@garnet.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on garnet.sover.net) sover.net from arc1a20.bf.sover.net [207.136.202.21] 207.136.202.21 Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:09:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:26:19 -0500 To: "Chris Wright" , In-Reply-To: <000901bf681c$8d274fc0$13b1cdcf@default> Subject: Re: Drivers for DOS X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.69 b68 List-Unsubscribe: You need to check the IBM WWW TP Device Driver matrix to see if there are DOS drivers for your machine. >Does anyone know whare to get PCMCIA slot card reader drivers for DOS? I >have it set up through Win98 BUT I need it to also exist in DOS. I tried >editing my config.sys file and add the lines into it as they are shown >through Win98 in the driver details.....but my computer hangs in boot up. _____________ Ed Letourneau From cph Wed Jan 26 22:38:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA16873 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:38:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26209; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:36:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:36:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26113; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:36:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25911; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:32:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:32:32 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-76.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.76]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA07854; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:22:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000126222532.010be740@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:25:32 -0800 To: "Cottrell, Eric" , ThinkPad List From: Mark Bell Subject: RE: Workpad z50 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 05:16 PM 01/26/2000 -0500, Cottrell, Eric wrote: >Hello, > >Even though I have a Palm III, a TP365ED, and 3+ desktop computers (not to >mention >the H8 CPM and CoCo III antiques) I bought one of these z50s. The major >selling >point was the price 8->. > OMG, I was a CoCo freak. :) I used it religiously from '82 -> '89. I went to RainbowFests, had a CoCo I (grey model/chicklet keyboard), with 32k and the old, upright grey cased disk drive and in '86 upgraded to a CoCo III. I even had a program published in Rainbow Magazine in the Xmas '87 issue. >I figure I can use it when I need something more than a Palm but less than >full laptop. I sold my Palm. I just couldn't get into it. I ordered a z50, though, just to play around with and see, like you, if it can bridge the gap between my 770z and my desktop. I am on the go a lot, so the ability to have a small, functioning Internet portable and note taker in a pinch is important. >The 33.6 >modem is fast enough for my purposes. I got it setup for my ISP and did >some web >browsing. The 640x480 resolution requires you to do side to side scrolling >to read >some web pages. Ack, it will be more important as a email station than anyhing to me. :) Web Browsing @ 640x480 is like playing lawn tennis with a table tennis paddle! Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Wed Jan 26 22:46:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA16944 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:46:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26945; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:44:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:44:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26837; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26823; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:44:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (206.127.32.35 -> tam.dorsai.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:44:30 -0500 Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA12319 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:49:58 -0500 (EST) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id WAA07159 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:49:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001270349.WAA07159@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Workpad z50 on egghead.com (fwd) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad list) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 100 22:49:57 -0500 (est) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > I'm still not quite clear on how I would use this to complement my > TP600. Seriously, what will it do for me that my 600 won't? Or is > it more something I'd want if I had a desktop machine, or maybe a > 770 (or Dell 7500 type anchor)? It's a substitute for me, my only travelling machine now. Really lightweight and 8-16 hours of battery life. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph Wed Jan 26 23:58:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA17309 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:58:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01944; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:56:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:56:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01837; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:56:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01805; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (207.155.198.79 -> darius.concentric.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:55:22 -0500 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id XAA01828; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:55:20 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from RJWLaptop1 (w066.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.66]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id XAA21564; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:55:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000126205203.00acd770@pop3.iceka1.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka1.com@pop3.iceka1.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 20:53:22 -0800 To: "Andrew Webber" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Workpad z50 on egghead.com In-Reply-To: <200001270047.TAA13400@mail2.magma.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 07:44 PM 01/26/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Current bid range is $149-$259. 70 units available, it sounds like >new batches are post >daily. > >http://www.egghead.com/category/inv/00000631/02455041.htm?source=DIg >eneral > >I'm still not quite clear on how I would use this to complement my >TP600. Seriously, what will it do for me that my 600 won't? Or is Absolutely nothing, except save you a couple of pounds' worth of travel weight. And even then, it does so by giving you a butchered wanna-be Windows with wanna-be (practically fake) Office apps. And you *cannot* install you Windows apps--they must be specific to Win CE. - Randy Whittle >it more something I'd want if I had a desktop machine, or maybe a >770 (or Dell 7500 type anchor)? > >Thanks! > >andrew >------ >current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html > > > > From cph Thu Jan 27 04:28:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA18194 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:28:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15487; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:27:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:25:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15287; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15273; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:25:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (150.203.2.15 -> leonard.anu.edu.au) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:25:10 -0500 Received: (from e720084@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21164; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:25:05 +1100 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:25:04 +1100 (EST) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 2 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From cph Thu Jan 27 04:48:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA18247 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:48:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16514; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:47:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:46:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16427; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:46:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from phnxpop3.phnx.uswest.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16412; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:46:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from phnxpop3.phnx.uswest.net (206.80.192.3 -> phnxpop3.phnx.uswest.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:46:44 -0500 Received: (qmail 19793 invoked by alias); 27 Jan 2000 09:46:38 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 19763 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jan 2000 09:46:36 -0000 Received: from dialupm162.phnx.uswest.net (209.180.138.162) by phnxpop3.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 27 Jan 2000 09:46:36 -0000 From: Ted Wiseman To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 240 / Battery Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 02:46:32 -0700 Message-ID: <7xKQOD7=xzO7fDkj17tuV1FD+FTg@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.6/32.525 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id EAA18248 I'm considering buying a 240 now that the prices are falling way down (< $1200 currently).. But all the reviews give it a bad rap for lousy battery life. Does anyone here who has one have experience with the optional extended life battery? Is it worth the purchase? How many hours can be expected with it? From cph Thu Jan 27 06:43:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA18701 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:43:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26080; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:40:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25916; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:40:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from freenet.freenet.nireland.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25903; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:40:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from freenet.freenet.nireland.com (194.46.8.30 -> freenet.nireland.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:40:11 -0500 Received: from ct ([194.46.2.109]) by freenet.freenet.nireland.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 9-31337L) with SMTP id AAA236 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:40:06 +0000 Message-ID: <000701bf68bb$44e20760$6d022ec2@ct> From: c.tunnah@nireland.com (Colin Tunnah) To: Subject: Intro-questions Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:36:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: My name is Colin Tunnah from Belfast, N.Ireland and I use a TP365XD (2625 GX9), P120 with 40mb ram(max) and 1gig HDD. The operating system is Windows 95, release 2. I use an Iomega zip 100 removeable drive and a Dynamode 56K, V90 pc card modem. I have two questions that I would be grateful if someone could help me with. 1. Is it possible to upgrade the Intel P120 processor? If not is it possible to overclock the machine to say, P133? 2.Just before the W95 desktop loads on startup a distorted image of the desktop appears for a second or two with several fractured lines running horizontally across the screen, with the word "Thinkpad" in the same position as it appears on the BIOS screen when the machine is first turned on. This is a cosmetic problem only and does not appear when using an external monitor. I have reformatted the HDD in the past for other reasons and it is only when I install the up to dated grahics driver from the IBM site that this problem occurs. The driver I am using is version 2.02 HXD354WW. Thanks Colin From cph Thu Jan 27 06:50:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA18715 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:50:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26516; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:48:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26386; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26372; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:48:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:48:21 -0500 Received: from WilliamArmstrong (user-2iveae8.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.41.200]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA18268 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:48:19 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: Workpad z50 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:48:31 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I have kinda followed the same path to the z50 as you Eric. Tonight I was trying to get synchronizing going between it and my 770Z using the infred ports. Seems this preferable to the Serial port. Never used the IR port on my ThinkPad. It seems to be configured OK (Serial port is disabled, etc.), but the two machines will not make a connection. I get an indication on the ThinkPad that it sees the WorkPad, but nothing more. Anyone have any tips out there? Bill Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Cottrell, Eric [mailto:ecottrell@Doble.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 5:17 PM To: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: Workpad z50 Hello, Even though I have a Palm III, a TP365ED, and 3+ desktop computers (not to mention the H8 CPM and CoCo III antiques) I bought one of these z50s. The major selling point was the price 8->. I figure I can use it when I need something more than a Palm but less than full laptop. The longer life battery will be more useful compared to the laptop. Too bad it could not fit in the pocket like the HP95. It seems 16 Megs is a good memory size for a WinCE machine but 48 Megs is better 8->. I do not travel much but this looks like a good machine to store notes, do some web browsing, and play games. The 33.6 modem is fast enough for my purposes. I got it setup for my ISP and did some web browsing. The 640x480 resolution requires you to do side to side scrolling to read some web pages. It is interesting to see it has support for PCMCIA NE2000 type ethernet cards (I may have one). The docs seem to indicate that I can use TCP/IP over the network to access the internet. I noticed there are other internet utilities for WinCE like ftp and IRC so I may see if I could use ftp to transfer files to and from the WinCE machine. I need to research it more. I did download a IRC program and could connect to the server but it is only single channel at a time 8-<. The surprise so far is that Adaptec has WinCE drivers for the APA-1460 SCSI card and it appears I can hook my Zip drive up to it. So there is one card that can be used for both the WinCE machine and the laptop. The IBM 340 Meg microdrive looks interesting but I have not run out of space yet 8->. I have a digital camera but unfortunely it takes SmartMedia and not Compact Flash. It looks like I could get a reader for my desktop that can read both formats if I get compact flash. I have a PCMCIA adapter for SmartMedia and wonder if it will work in the WinCE machine. The only disappointment so far is that Solus 1.5 (I bought the z50 for map display) does not run on WinCE 2.11 but I suspect Delorme will fix that. The Microsoft Pocket Streets that is on the CD that comes with the z50 does not seem to have GPS capability. So I got some more experimenting and downloading to do! It would be nice if I could display pictures from my digital camera on the WinCE machine. It is interesting to go to www.streetprices.com and www.pricewatch.com and see listings of the z50 units for $700 to $900. One dealer has them for $500. Thanks to the list for the heads up on the deals. I would like to get some options like the 32k memory but do I get it now or wait a while until the price drops? 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 12:27 AM To: Stan Jacobs Cc: Jon; ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Workpad z50 Stan... read the commentary by Mark Lemon further on in the list... its a good evaluation.. i got one for myself and one for my wife.. you just shut the display and open it and all is as you left it.. once through the opening splash screen... the worst feature so far is the manual says that the networking is very limited.. only for syncing data.. From cph Thu Jan 27 09:03:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA19100 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:03:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03278; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:54:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02762; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02749; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:54:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (193.149.48.10 -> slarti.muc.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:54:50 -0500 Received: (qmail 1368 invoked by uid 66); 27 Jan 2000 14:00:20 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; Thu Jan 27 14:00:20 2000 -0000 Received: by seneca.muc.de (Postfix, from userid 0) id 0FC03EBC5; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:50:31 +0100 (CET) From: Harald Milz Subject: Re: Upgrading CPU on a ThinkPad 701 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu References: <4.2.2.20000126130858.00a70520@mail.psu.edu> Organization: X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Message-Id: <20000127135031.0FC03EBC5@seneca.muc.de> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:50:31 +0100 (CET) List-Unsubscribe: Bob Munzenrider wrote: > Well, I finally bit the bullet (More accurately, I persuaded my masters at > school to bite it...) and upgraded the CPU on my TP701 (486/75) to one of > those AMD 5X86P75 DX5-133 CPUs. Maximum Upgrades did the work. The machine > is back and seems to work just fine, and certainly more "smartly" than it > did before, although the underside of the case is noticeably hotter after > the machine's been running awhile that it used to get with the 486/75 > installed. Battery lifetime? -- Some primal termite knocked on wood. And tasted it, and found it good. And that is why your Cousin May Fell through the parlor floor today. -- Ogden Nash From cph Thu Jan 27 09:25:34 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA19203 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:25:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05069; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:23:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04935; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:23:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from bradnet.legend.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04901; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:22:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from bradnet.legend.co.uk (194.164.19.39 -> bradnet.legend.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:22:56 -0500 Received: by bradnet.legend.co.uk (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03/2.0) id OAA074.08; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:23:15 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:23:10 +0000 From: John Poltorak To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP600 with WinTv USB Message-ID: <20000127142310.G2239@bradnet.legend.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.15i X-Operating-System: OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: After seeing:- http://www.hauppauge.com/html/usb_data.htm I wondered if anyone had ever tried one connected to a TP600... Having TV and Radio which the Model 621 offers is something I've always wanted to have on my ThinkPad. -- John From cph Thu Jan 27 09:37:38 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA19261 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:37:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06410; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:35:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:35:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06309; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06292; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (4.21.209.242 -> exch1.smh.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:35:33 -0500 Received: by EXCH1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:34:07 -0500 Message-ID: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A85E6@EXCH1> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: John Poltorak , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: TP600 with WinTv USB Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:34:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Greetings, I've got the Nogatech version (www.nogatech.com). It installed easily. It's also got an FM tuner(haven't tried it). The picture runs natively at less than XGA resolution but it can be scaled up to full screen with some pixelation visible. The USB port is apparently bandwidth limited in this regard. Also video-audio synch is not perfect(The updated drivers on the web site helped). It's more a toy than a replacement TV, but it's better than nothing. Neil TP 600 PII/266 TP 770ED -----Original Message----- From: John Poltorak [mailto:jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 9:23 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP600 with WinTv USB After seeing:- http://www.hauppauge.com/html/usb_data.htm I wondered if anyone had ever tried one connected to a TP600... Having TV and Radio which the Model 621 offers is something I've always wanted to have on my ThinkPad. -- John From cph Thu Jan 27 10:28:55 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA19506 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:28:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10536; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:28:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:27:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10408; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:27:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from fama.webcombo.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10394; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:27:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from fama.webcombo.net (207.250.9.22 -> mail.webcombo.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:27:08 -0500 Received: from 770z (1Cust117.tnt2.atl2.da.uu.net [63.22.15.117]) by fama.webcombo.net (8.9.3/[.92 webCOMBO - ALL UCE PROHIBITED]) with SMTP id KAA01670; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:32:29 -0600 From: "Richard Chalk" To: "John Poltorak" , Subject: RE: TP600 with WinTv USB Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:26:39 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20000127142310.G2239@bradnet.legend.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I have had poor results trying to use one of these on a 770Z. I have a long string of e-mails with Hauppauge, with the final result being no fix, and it is too late to return the product. The problem is that the computer locks up completely, so hard that I have to use the reset button just to turn it off!! Hauppauge says they have had "some problems" with the Trident video system, but have not offered a fix. The results are a little better with Windows 2000, but I still ge blue-screen, and something called a "Memory Dump" periodically, especially when trying to move or resize an active window. I don't know if the TP 600 uses the same display chipset, but I would recommend that you make sure you can return the device if it doesn't work for you, since Hauppauge seems to be weak in this area. Regards, Richard -----Original Message----- From: John Poltorak [mailto:jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 9:23 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP600 with WinTv USB After seeing:- http://www.hauppauge.com/html/usb_data.htm I wondered if anyone had ever tried one connected to a TP600... Having TV and Radio which the Model 621 offers is something I've always wanted to have on my ThinkPad. -- John From cph Thu Jan 27 11:33:50 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA19946 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:33:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16921; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:31:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:31:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16763; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:31:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from fama.webcombo.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16750; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from fama.webcombo.net (207.250.9.22 -> mail.webcombo.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:31:08 -0500 Received: from 770z (1Cust117.tnt2.atl2.da.uu.net [63.22.15.117]) by fama.webcombo.net (8.9.3/[.92 webCOMBO - ALL UCE PROHIBITED]) with SMTP id LAA07849; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:36:45 -0600 From: "Richard Chalk" To: "John Poltorak" , Subject: RE: TP600 with WinTv USB Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:30:55 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20000127142310.G2239@bradnet.legend.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Looking at the Nogatech unit, it appears to be the same as the Hauppauge. -----Original Message----- From: John Poltorak [mailto:jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 9:23 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP600 with WinTv USB After seeing:- http://www.hauppauge.com/html/usb_data.htm I wondered if anyone had ever tried one connected to a TP600... Having TV and Radio which the Model 621 offers is something I've always wanted to have on my ThinkPad. -- John From cph Thu Jan 27 11:43:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA20016 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:43:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17927; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:40:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17840; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:40:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17827; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (206.191.0.217 -> mx1.magmacom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:40:49 -0500 Received: from mail4.magma.ca (mail4.magma.ca [206.191.0.222]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28097 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:40:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew (x2port83.magma.ca [206.191.28.83]) by mail4.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA03917 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:40:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001271640.LAA03917@mail4.magma.ca> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:38:08 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP600 with WinTv USB List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:23:10 +0000, John Poltorak wrote: >After seeing:- > >http://www.hauppauge.com/html/usb_data.htm > >I wondered if anyone had ever tried one connected to a TP600... > >Having TV and Radio which the Model 621 offers is something I've >always wanted to have on my ThinkPad. Unless there's a new one, the USB version doesn't include FM, and the sound quality is poor anyway (according to Hauppauge; okay they said "relatively poor"). I looked at the boxes in Office Max before I phoned Hauppauge. On the desktop side, they seem to have a $50, $100, and $150 version. The $50 is TV only, not great sound. The $100 adds FM, stereo sound, and I don't remember what else. The $150 has better sound and probably other features. The $100 USB version seems to have the same feature set as the $50 desktop version. Since I want FM at least as much as TV, I'm waiting for them to at least bring out a $150 USB version corresponding to the $100 desktop model. Plus the other comments about the 770 scare me. FWIW, my 600 has a "NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD (tm)". andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Thu Jan 27 12:37:12 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA20425 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:37:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22987; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:34:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:33:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22766; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.actionwebs.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22742; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.actionwebs.net (216.5.9.4 -> apollo.actionwebs.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:33:38 -0500 Received: from ccs ([208.244.215.242]) by localhost.actionwebs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA29118; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:30:00 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Mark Lemon" To: "'Andrew Webber'" , "'ThinkPad List'" Subject: RE: Workpad z50 on egghead.com Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:29:30 -0600 Message-ID: <000801bf68f4$73e10960$7700a8c0@ccs.candid.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <200001270047.TAA13400@mail2.magma.ca> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Andrew: Here's my quick list... - Take to customer meetings in conference room for notes - Taking notes in class, seminars. - Writing procedure manuals on the shop floor - checking e-mail at cottage, on vacation - giving to my wife who want to "try" a laptop Basically, it's stuff I pull a legal pad out for when the TP is too much. Plus the wife thing was a real bonus. Not worth a grand, but definitely worth a couple hundred bucks. My 2c Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Webber [mailto:awebber@sgml-mercs.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 6:44 PM > To: ThinkPad List > Subject: Workpad z50 on egghead.com > > I'm still not quite clear on how I would use this to complement my > TP600. Seriously, what will it do for me that my 600 won't? Or is > it more something I'd want if I had a desktop machine, or maybe a > 770 (or Dell 7500 type anchor)? From cph Thu Jan 27 12:46:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA20475 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:46:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24055; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:44:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:44:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23963; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23947; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (207.0.68.7 -> home.dwave.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:44:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA07016 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:44:39 -0600 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:44:38 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Intro-questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > My name is Colin Tunnah Hi Colin! > 1. Is it possible to upgrade the Intel P120 processor? If not is it > possible to overclock the machine to say, P133? It is _possible_ to upgrade the CPU. Since the machine was not designed for this, it is expensive, and IBM will not do it, nor will they be happy to service the machine should it be necessary after the event. I would certainly not recommend you do this yourself unless you are very skilled and have proper desoldering tools. Overclocking laptops is very unlikely to work because of the extreme pressure for low cost: Parts are specified to work with the smallest margin of error. Others on the list can point you to places who do this kind of thing, though. Also keep in mind that 120 to 133 is only an 11% boost, but a larger cache would certainly help. Your hard drive performance will likely not improve. > 2.Just before the W95 desktop loads on startup a distorted image of the > desktop appears for a second or two with several fractured lines running > horizontally across the screen, with the word "Thinkpad" in the same > position as it appears on the BIOS screen when the machine is first > turned on. I get this on my 365XD as well. It happens because the driver is written so that the display mode changes before memory is cleared. A monitor could display this if it could synchronize to the change quickly enough, but I haven't seen it on a monitor either. So there is nothing wrong about this behavior. It is normal, but ugly. Chris Schumann "Wait a minute, Joe. If what you're saying is true, then I still don't care." - Dave Nelson, News Radio From cph Thu Jan 27 12:48:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA20494 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:48:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24718; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:46:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:46:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24619; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:46:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from collide.evcom.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24606; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:46:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from collide.evcom.net (216.10.32.7 -> collide.evcom.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:46:28 -0500 Received: from zothommog.evcom.net (root@zothommog.evcom.net [216.10.32.8]) by collide.evcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA27545 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:42:56 -0500 Received: from treco.net (mia-tcr8-167.dyn.evcom.net [216.10.45.167]) by zothommog.evcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA23471 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:46:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3890845D.52646F4@treco.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:46:05 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Organization: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: is the list still alive? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: or is my e-mail account dead! -- Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com http://thinkpads.com/enter.html E-Mail: bill@thinkpads.com, morrow@treco.net From cph Thu Jan 27 12:58:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA20544 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:58:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25894; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:56:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:55:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25813; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:55:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25800; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:55:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (130.18.80.10 -> Ra.MsState.Edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:55:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (skl2@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/MsState-Ra/evision: 1.15 $) with ESMTP; id LAA29838 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:55:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:55:44 -0600 (CST) From: See K Lam To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: tp760xd: looking for one Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: hi.... i'm looking for a tp760xd for a friend. anyone in the list knows where can i find one? btw, what is the market price for this model? thanks. seekit From cph Thu Jan 27 13:04:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA20571 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:04:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26694; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:02:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:01:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26608; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from collide.evcom.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26595; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from collide.evcom.net (216.10.32.7 -> collide.evcom.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:01:48 -0500 Received: from zothommog.evcom.net (root@zothommog.evcom.net [216.10.32.8]) by collide.evcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA28769 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:58:29 -0500 Received: from treco.net (mia-tcr8-167.dyn.evcom.net [216.10.45.167]) by zothommog.evcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA25677 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:01:46 -0500 Message-ID: <38908803.C55BD07D@treco.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:01:39 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Organization: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: ???????? -- Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com http://thinkpads.com/enter.html E-Mail: bill@thinkpads.com, morrow@treco.net From cph Thu Jan 27 13:07:12 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA20606 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:07:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27085; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:04:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26998; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from collide.evcom.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26985; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from collide.evcom.net (216.10.32.7 -> collide.evcom.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:04:49 -0500 Received: from zothommog.evcom.net (root@zothommog.evcom.net [216.10.32.8]) by collide.evcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA28977 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:01:30 -0500 Received: from treco.net (mia-tcr8-167.dyn.evcom.net [216.10.45.167]) by zothommog.evcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA26031 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:04:47 -0500 Message-ID: <389088B8.73BB4A31@treco.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:04:41 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Organization: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: is the list working, or Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: is my e-mail address penzance@icanect.net not working..? i'm still getting spammed, so SOMETHING must be working.. :-) -- Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com http://thinkpads.com/enter.html E-Mail: bill@thinkpads.com, morrow@treco.net From cph Thu Jan 27 13:08:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA20618 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:08:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27466; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:05:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27383; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:05:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibcsrv1.ubarter.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27370; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibcsrv1.ubarter.com (207.109.80.193) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:05:44 -0500 Received: by IBCSRV1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:04:47 -0800 Message-ID: <603D361CC16ED3118ECC0090276F89C50B0EA0@IBCSRV1> From: David Crombie To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Intro-questions Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:04:45 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I have a 365xd w/120 as well. I found that the best way to improve performance was to jack up the memory. Contrary to popular belief (ie. IBM's) you can put a 64MB module in the machine and bring it up to 72MB. I ran w98se and w2kb3(2031) for quite a while - although it was no 'whizbang' machine it certainly managed OK. I used the 365xd for work for a year until my company bought me a new dell inspiron (sorry gang - not my decision, but it is a nice machine). BTW - it's now sitting on my shelf looking for a new motherboard. Let's just say that I have had more than my share of problems with this machine. 3 motherboards, 2 keyboards, 1 new display. All in 2 years... David Crombie david@crombie.com -----Original Message----- From: Chris Schumann [mailto:whizkid@dwave.net] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 9:45 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Intro-questions > My name is Colin Tunnah Hi Colin! > 1. Is it possible to upgrade the Intel P120 processor? If not is it > possible to overclock the machine to say, P133? It is _possible_ to upgrade the CPU. Since the machine was not designed for this, it is expensive, and IBM will not do it, nor will they be happy to service the machine should it be necessary after the event. I would certainly not recommend you do this yourself unless you are very skilled and have proper desoldering tools. Overclocking laptops is very unlikely to work because of the extreme pressure for low cost: Parts are specified to work with the smallest margin of error. Others on the list can point you to places who do this kind of thing, though. Also keep in mind that 120 to 133 is only an 11% boost, but a larger cache would certainly help. Your hard drive performance will likely not improve. > 2.Just before the W95 desktop loads on startup a distorted image of the > desktop appears for a second or two with several fractured lines running > horizontally across the screen, with the word "Thinkpad" in the same > position as it appears on the BIOS screen when the machine is first > turned on. I get this on my 365XD as well. It happens because the driver is written so that the display mode changes before memory is cleared. A monitor could display this if it could synchronize to the change quickly enough, but I haven't seen it on a monitor either. So there is nothing wrong about this behavior. It is normal, but ugly. Chris Schumann "Wait a minute, Joe. If what you're saying is true, then I still don't care." - Dave Nelson, News Radio From cph Thu Jan 27 13:08:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA20622 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:08:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27260; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:05:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27149; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:05:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.uunt.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27134; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:05:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.uunt.net (208.243.113.121 -> prod-280a.tco3.web.wcom.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:05:10 -0500 Received: from uu.net ([63.67.81.128]) by mail.uunt.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA13905 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:04:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001271804.NAA13905@mail.uunt.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP600 32MB memory for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:07:30 -0500 From: Mark List-Unsubscribe: I've got one Kingston 32MB module for sale. I pulled it from my TP600 yesterday in order to add more memory. E-mail me off the list if you are interested. ---- Mark Bergman -- From cph Thu Jan 27 13:15:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA20670 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:15:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28621; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:12:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28540; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28526; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:12:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.34 -> out4.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:12:32 -0500 Received: from basterfield.com ([139.92.219.92]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2000012718122923900lnen5e>; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:12:30 +0000 Message-ID: <38908A67.9C86AC3D@basterfield.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:11:51 +0000 From: Daniel Basterfield Organization: My middle name! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erin Cressida Wilson CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: i have a thinkpad 380D and a question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Erin Cressida Wilson wrote: > > Hello.... > > I'm a professor at Duke Univeristy, am about to go to Europe, but must be > able to conduct my e mail communication in a remote area of Scotland. I > am thinking of renting an Ericsson cell phone but can get no hlep from > IBM on this. My question is that the ERicsson requires that my computer > be configured for infrared communication. ONce I know that it is, or how > I can go about making it so, i need to get IRDA Driver software. But what > I don't know is, is my model configured for this type of thing. I am > desperate, can get answers from nobody, thought you might be able to > help, Erin Wilson Erin - You'll find cellphone reception to be patchy if you're really remote; should be OK round most towns & the cities. If you will have access to a normal phone line, a cheap US->UK telephone plug adapter will allow your existing internal or PCMCIA modem to work; don't let anyone from British Telecom catch you doing this, as it'll be illegal, unless you have one of the 'international' certified PCMCIA modems. Oh, and you might need to add ATX3 to your initialisation string - that tells the modem to skip the carrier-detect and dial blindly. If you do rent a cellphone, check with the manufacturer that it will work here. Can't stand the things myself, but I have heard that the US and Europe run on different frequencies/networks/standards (insert correct technical term as appropriate). 'Dual-mode' phones have been around here for a while that promise compatibility with both European and US systems. I could be horribly wrong here, but check with someone in the know. I assume you've sorted out a local ISP to dial-up to? IBM Global Network or Compuserve offer good coverage, and there are also free ISP's (e.g. Freeserve) who require no subscription charge. Whatever route you take, you'll still have to pay for calls to your ISP at local rate. Dan. Glasgow, Scotland. -- Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" OS/2 Certified Engineer Microsoft Certified Professional ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm From cph Thu Jan 27 13:16:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA20684 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:16:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29068; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:14:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:14:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28951; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28808; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:13:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:14:00 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax62.vramp.net [198.138.8.125]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA28639; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:13:28 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Bill Morrow" , Subject: RE: is the list working, or Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:13:59 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <389088B8.73BB4A31@treco.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Bill, You're coming through 5X5. Perhaps you've set your profile to not send your own posts back to you? Regards, James > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Morrow [mailto:morrow@treco.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 1:05 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: is the list working, or > > > is my e-mail address penzance@icanect.net not working..? > > i'm still getting spammed, so SOMETHING must be working.. > :-) > > -- > Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > E-Mail: bill@thinkpads.com, morrow@treco.net > > From cph Thu Jan 27 13:23:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA20741 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:23:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29966; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:20:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:20:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29879; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from collide.evcom.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29866; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from collide.evcom.net (216.10.32.7 -> collide.evcom.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:20:45 -0500 Received: from zothommog.evcom.net (root@zothommog.evcom.net [216.10.32.8]) by collide.evcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA30182 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:17:26 -0500 Received: from treco.net (mia-tcr8-167.dyn.evcom.net [216.10.45.167]) by zothommog.evcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA28221 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:20:44 -0500 Message-ID: <38908C74.CB425201@treco.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:20:36 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Organization: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: problem is with ISP, they changed from icanect.net to gate.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: thanks to all who replied, now all i need do is change so many many registrations that use this older e-mail address -- Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com http://thinkpads.com/enter.html E-Mail: bill@thinkpads.com, morrow@treco.net From cph Thu Jan 27 13:37:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA20873 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:37:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01382; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:33:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:33:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01301; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01287; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:33:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (166.72.18.166 -> slip166-72-18-166.nj.us.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:33:34 -0500 Message-ID: <001901bf68f5$057cbb80$a61248a6@cijeczcig1x68u> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Chris Schumann" , References: Subject: Re: Intro-questions Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:33:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: While we are on the subject of upgrading the CPU's... how about upgrades for the PII 770's? The processor is on what appears to be a tape cartridge. Two screws and it can be pulle dfrom the socket. Don't know if this is a standard tape cartridge or custom but replacing should be rather simple (once the machine is opened :) ) Donald Mak > It is _possible_ to upgrade the CPU. Since the machine was not designed > for this, it is expensive, and IBM will not do it, nor will they be happy > to service the machine should it be necessary after the event. I would > certainly not recommend you do this yourself unless you are very skilled > and have proper desoldering tools. Overclocking laptops is very unlikely > to work because of the extreme pressure for low cost: Parts are specified > to work with the smallest margin of error. > From cph Thu Jan 27 13:41:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA20911 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:41:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01911; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:38:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:38:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01768; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:38:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01755; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:38:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.17 -> mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:38:01 -0500 Received: from 770 ([12.68.1.105]) by mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000127183758.BNOI12791@770>; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:37:58 +0000 Message-ID: <3890BB47.5AE@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:40:23 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Chalk CC: John Poltorak , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600 with WinTv USB References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The Margi TV to GO will work on a 770, and on a 600 as far as I know. It works very well indeed. Richard Chalk wrote: > > I have had poor results trying to use one of these on a 770Z. I have a long > string of e-mails with Hauppauge, with the final result being no fix, and it > is too late to return the product. > > The problem is that the computer locks up completely, so hard that I have to > use the reset button just to turn it off!! Hauppauge says they have had > "some problems" with the Trident video system, but have not offered a fix. > The results are a little better with Windows 2000, but I still ge > blue-screen, and something called a "Memory Dump" periodically, especially > when trying to move or resize an active window. > > I don't know if the TP 600 uses the same display chipset, but I would > recommend that you make sure you can return the device if it doesn't work > for you, since Hauppauge seems to be weak in this area. > > Regards, > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Poltorak [mailto:jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 9:23 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: TP600 with WinTv USB > > After seeing:- > > http://www.hauppauge.com/html/usb_data.htm > > I wondered if anyone had ever tried one connected to a TP600... > > Having TV and Radio which the Model 621 offers is something I've > always wanted to have on my ThinkPad. > > -- > John From cph Thu Jan 27 14:11:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA21230 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:11:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05006; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:08:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:08:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04930; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:08:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.internal (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04916; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:08:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.internal (209.166.154.244 -> isdn244.vocollect.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:08:34 -0500 Received: from brianbnt5 (brianb-nt5.internal [172.31.5.89]) by mail.internal (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA19227 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:05:34 -0500 From: "Brian Bender" To: "'Thinkpads list'" Subject: RE: TP600 -- USB stable? Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:06:27 -0500 Message-ID: <000201bf68f9$9dab5520$59051fac@brianbnt5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <000f01bf6821$eebe6d90$59051fac@brianbnt5> List-Unsubscribe: Follow up -- it broke again this morning with the USB disabled. So it definitely smells like a RAM problem. I've got the new DIMM in, I'll see how it behaves (please don't be the system board )... - Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Bender [mailto:bbender@vocollect.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 12:23 PM > To: 'Thinkpads list' > Subject: TP600 -- USB stable? > > > > Hi folks, > > I'm trying to chase a hardware glitch and looking for data > points. Just in > the last 2 days I've had 4 BSODs in NT5 -- one with RC3 and 3 > after the > upgrade to RTM (OK, you can stop snickering -- I know all the > jokes, but I > can usually set up a pretty stable NT machine ). I turned > the machine > off, turned it back on w/ {F1} held to get into easy-setup. > It never made > it through the POST -- it buzzed for 5 seconds or so and > turned back off. I > killed power (recessed reset button, no AC, no battery > attached), hooked it > back up & still wouldn't turn on. I pulled the 128MB dimm out, and it > powered up fine. > > I ran the RAM test in easy setup on the full 224MB (cripes, > it takes about > an hour and a half with that much!), and everything passed > fine, but it's > fairly intermittent so I'm not surprised. I've repeated this > scenario every > time -- machine won't make it through the POST until I pull > that DIMM. So > it really smells like the DIMM is bad, right? FWIW, I've had > it happen in > both DIMM slots. It's being replaced (from Crucial -- sorry > Bill, it was > ordered as part of a group purchase at work, and not ordered > by me! but > I'll be back!). > > But in the mean time, I have one other little issue bugging > me -- all of > these BSODs happened right after I had enabled the USB port > on the machine > (wanted to try out a coworker's USB joystick ). So while > I'm waiting for > the RAM to cross-ship, I'm running the rest of the day with > it in and the > USB port disabled again (and when I get the new RAM I'll run > it with the USB > enabled for a while, just to see). > > Has anyone had any trouble with the 600 related to the USB port? > > Thanks (and sorry -- this ended up a little more long-winded than I > expected) > > - Brian Bender > TP600: PII-300, 10GB HDD (NT5) / 5GB HDD (Slack7), 224MB > of marginally > stable RAM > > From cph Thu Jan 27 14:48:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA21564 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:48:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08131; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:43:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08011; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:43:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07998; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:43:47 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA07454; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:43:28 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <003701bf68fe$e70e01e0$3762183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Daniel Basterfield" , "Erin Cressida Wilson" Cc: References: <38908A67.9C86AC3D@basterfield.com> Subject: Re: i have a thinkpad 380D and a question Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:44:16 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: "I assume you've sorted out a local ISP to dial-up to? IBM Global Network or Compuserve offer good coverage" Alas, these charge stiff "global roaming" fees to US subscribers working in Europe; my former ISP IBM started these up just weeks before I went to the UK for my sabbatical last year. "and there are also free ISP's (e.g. Freeserve) who require no subscription charge." I didn't know freeserve et al had a presence in Ireland yet. If so, I recommend free-online (who muck your machine up less than freeserve). You can subscribe to many of these over the internet even before you leave the US. - David R. From cph Thu Jan 27 15:51:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA22047 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:51:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15009; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:48:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:46:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14754; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.clinet.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14707; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:46:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.clinet.fi (194.100.0.12 -> smtp.clinet.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:46:54 -0500 Received: from tp701 (255-54.dyn.clinet.fi [194.100.255.54]) by smtp.clinet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA65340 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:19:08 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200001271919.VAA65340@smtp.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:38:31 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <002301bf6870$75c47b60$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Modem for a 701 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 at 09:35 PM you, "David Ross" , said: >upgraded to 33.6, however, with sw from the IBM website. Oh, and you get >the added benefit of >the "international" feature, if you travel out of the USA. Not sure what is the "added benefit of the international feature" ;-) My TP701 was purchased in the US and I've been able to use its original built-in modem in a variety of countries (Finland, France, Turkey and Thailand, to name a few). Dominique From cph Thu Jan 27 16:52:55 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA22545 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:52:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21293; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:51:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:50:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21100; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:50:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from box3.pyrrhusoft.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21084; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from box3.pyrrhusoft.com (204.181.48.70 -> p204.181.48.70.syspac.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:50:23 -0500 Received: (from jones@localhost) by box3.pyrrhusoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id OAA00826; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:48:14 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:48:14 -0700 Message-Id: <200001272148.OAA00826@box3.pyrrhusoft.com> From: David Jones To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Is The 240 *THE* Sub Notebook? List-Unsubscribe: Back in late November of last year Steve, , asked for comments regarding the ThinkPad 240. I did not see too many replies and would like to raise the issue again. My question is: "Is the TP 240 *THE* sub notebook"? Note "sub notebook", not notebook, laptop, or palmtop. I have two Butterflies and am considering a 240 for some extended overseas travel. The specifications look great; the short battery life and some NT related problems not so good. Thanks for your comments. David Jones From cph Thu Jan 27 17:33:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA22924 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:33:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24598; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:32:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:31:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24456; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.psychonet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24433; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:31:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.psychonet.net (24.113.61.37 -> cr634166-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:31:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (devel@localhost) by vip.psychonet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA12096; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:30:43 -0800 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:30:42 -0800 (PST) From: Steve To: David Jones cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Is The 240 *THE* Sub Notebook? In-Reply-To: <200001272148.OAA00826@box3.pyrrhusoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi David, I've had a love-hate relationship with my TP240, in the end its my favourite laptop of all time (and I had a bunch including a 701c) There were several bios issues that affected both NT and linux, after bugging IBM the latest bios (1.08) fixes all of the serious issues I had(which included some harddrive controller timeouts) I consistently get just under 2 hours of battery life when running linux and close to 1.5 with NT. Windoze98 was wiped from the harddrive 15 minutes after it came out of the box. If my company would pay for it I'd love the higher capacity battery. When you consider you can find the 300 Mhz version for under 1200 US dollars I'd say its a great deal. If you have any specific questions you think I can help with do let me know. There must be some other 240 users out there??????? Steve On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, David Jones wrote: > Back in late November of last year Steve, , asked > for comments regarding the ThinkPad 240. I did not see too many > replies and would like to raise the issue again. > > My question is: "Is the TP 240 *THE* sub notebook"? Note "sub > notebook", not notebook, laptop, or palmtop. I have two Butterflies > and am considering a 240 for some extended overseas travel. The > specifications look great; the short battery life and some NT related > problems not so good. > > Thanks for your comments. > > David Jones > From cph Thu Jan 27 17:42:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA22996 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:42:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25393; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:40:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25311; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25298; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:40:41 -0500 Received: from user-38lc49r.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lc49r.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.17.59]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA02738 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:40:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001272240.RAA02738@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:39:11 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <200001271919.VAA65340@smtp.clinet.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Modem for a 701 List-Unsubscribe: I used an MWAVE modem on a TP760CD Ok in Ireland, England, and then it went kaput in Paris. Just would not get along with the French phone system. Bought a 3COM "Global" pc card modem and no problemas, except that it loaded in French. The MWAVE communicatedin Switzerland, but by then I just kept the pc card modem in the slot. I wanted to try both in Germany, but my hotel was hard wired in some weird way that took a manual switch to get out of the hotel, so used a cyber cafe pc and my settings. (That really screwed up my ISP.) Not sure if the international settings help, or not, but I doubt they hurt . Some of the overseas phone tones are a challenge. Allan Ballard On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:38:31 +0200, Dominique Pivard wrote: >On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 at 09:35 PM you, >"David Ross" , said: > >>upgraded to 33.6, however, with sw from the IBM website. Oh, and you get >>the added benefit of >>the "international" feature, if you travel out of the USA. > >Not sure what is the "added benefit of the international feature" ;-) My >TP701 was purchased in the US and I've been able to use its original >built-in modem in a variety of countries (Finland, France, Turkey and >Thailand, to name a few). > >Dominique From cph Thu Jan 27 19:21:09 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA23792 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:21:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01576; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:20:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:19:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01455; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01439; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:19:25 -0500 Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.222]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000128001923.JREI5516@dts-jl> for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:19:23 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20000127191916.01350100@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:19:16 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Is The 240 *THE* Sub Notebook? In-Reply-To: References: <200001272148.OAA00826@box3.pyrrhusoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 02:30 PM 1/27/00 -0800, Steve wrote: >There must be some other 240 users out there??????? > I rejected it and went with Armada M300s and Toshiba Porteges instead. When we were looking at it in the fall, we had problems with NT that IBM support couldn't work out to our satisfaction. I had to have something ready before our Y2K technology freeze, and I couldn't do it with the TP240. Glad to hear they finally got the NT issues worked out. Did IBM ever get a docking solution for it? From cph Thu Jan 27 19:31:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA23851 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:31:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02415; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:30:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:30:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02328; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:30:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02314; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:30:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:30:02 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.13.179]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000128003000.JWAA5516@701c> for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:30:00 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01bf6926$d5e399c0$b30d4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Thinkpad 730T Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:30:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello everybody. I have discovered that several people have problems with the 730T. This is a pen based 486 with a 105 meg harddrive standard. The machine does require correct drivers for the pen to work outside of setup. The machine normally does not have a floppy drive. The quesion is, what is the easiest way for people to get the OS on?. I have a TP 701C and simply plop the 730 drive in and out as needed. Some people can not do this neat little trick. I love the 701C, its size is great!. I am getting a Z50, it should be in any day, will see what WinCE is like. What ever happened to "BoB" of microsoft Win 95 fame?. As always, have fun. From cph Thu Jan 27 20:54:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA24354 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:54:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06931; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:51:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06826; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from f1n2.u.arizona.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06812; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from f1n2.u.arizona.edu (128.196.137.102 -> f1n2.U.Arizona.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:51:37 -0500 Received: (from mcquaid@localhost) by f1n2.u.arizona.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26096 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:51:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:51:34 -0700 From: Mick McQuaid To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Is The 240 *THE* Sub Notebook? Message-ID: <20000127185134.A26334@U.Arizona.EDU> References: <200001272148.OAA00826@box3.pyrrhusoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Steve on Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 02:30:42PM -0800 List-Unsubscribe: Is TP240 even in the typical selection set? Looking at www.jpd.com, it appears all the Japanese are far ahead (Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic). I would be interested to hear why TP240 might be a better choice than any of these. From cph Thu Jan 27 21:12:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA24453 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:12:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08180; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:10:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08094; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:10:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08070; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:10:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:10:54 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA01302; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:10:45 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <003301bf6935$018c0540$d162183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Dominique Pivard" , References: <200001271919.VAA65340@smtp.clinet.fi> Subject: Re: Modem for a 701 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:11:33 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: "Not sure what is the "added benefit of the international feature" ;-) " Carrier detect, ringer detect, busy signal detect, etc. These are mainly important for scripting, and even then are only useful in countries where the phone signals are very different from those in the US. Some countries also pollute the phone lines with billing pips; global modems know about this and filter accordingly. "TP701 was purchased in the US and I've been able to use its original built-in modem in a variety of countries (Finland, France, Turkey and Thailand, to name a few)." My 701's modem was always rather marginal even in the US:-) - David R. From cph Thu Jan 27 21:18:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA24536 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:18:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08706; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:17:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08631; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:17:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ssiam921.softwarespectrum.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08610; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ssiam921.softwarespectrum.com (192.152.152.2 -> sunfire.swspectrum.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:17:51 -0500 Received: by SSIAM921 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:17:48 -0600 Message-ID: <6DB879346436D21198C500A0C9E1E123CD41B4@ssiwgn03.swspectrum.co.nz> From: Nathan Mercer To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: DVD Region info Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:23:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/20000105/A8426-2000Jan5.html From cph Thu Jan 27 21:22:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA24567 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:22:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09069; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:21:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08994; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08962; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:21:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:21:21 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA01462; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:21:15 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <004b01bf6936$78ba77e0$d162183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Mick McQuaid" , References: <200001272148.OAA00826@box3.pyrrhusoft.com> <20000127185134.A26334@U.Arizona.EDU> Subject: Re: Is The 240 *THE* Sub Notebook? Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:22:03 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: "Japanese are far ahead (Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic). I would be interested to hear why TP240 might be a better choice than any of these." Isn't the TP240 designed in Japan as well? Anyway, I think one answer to your question is "keyboard quality". That Toshiba *is* a tasty machine, however. - David From cph Thu Jan 27 22:08:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA24776 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:08:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11549; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:07:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:06:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11448; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11435; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:06:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (4.21.209.242 -> exch1.smh.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:06:08 -0500 Received: by EXCH1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:04:45 -0500 Message-ID: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1D62@EXCH1> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: "'Mick McQuaid '" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu '" Subject: RE: Is The 240 *THE* Sub Notebook? Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:04:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Greetings, I was looking for a small footprint Windows machine. I'm an old 701 owner. I had a 560 for a while. Sure it's light, but it sure isn't "small." FWIW, my current machines are desktops, a 770 in my office, a 600 around the house, a 701C (my daughter's, and she wouldn't trade it for a Pentium III desktop), and (lately) a Sony Picturebook. It seems to me that IBM completely blew it when they discontinued the 701 and didn't go smaller soon there after. Has everyone noticed how the Sony laptops are getting noticed? Why would some one get Thinkpad 240 (with lousy battery life, 800x600 resolution), when they can get a Sony 505 with same size screen, XGA resolution and better battery life(about the same price,too). The Picturebook (C1X) has a smaller footprint, 2.5lb weight and unique "sport model" XGA screen (gorgeous 1024x480 at 24bit color). My machine is a Pentium 266 with 64 mB RAM and 4 GB hard drive with a built in digital camera. Sony plans a PII 400 12GB machine as its replacement. It should hit the streets any day. I've owned other laptops. My favorites remain Thinkpads. IBM used to own the high end with the 770. Not anymore. Check out CNET's user comments on Dell's high end Pentium III, 15 inch screen behemoth. Five years ago IBM was asking $5000 for a 701C, the most dimunitive of laptop PCs (if you don't count the PC110). IBM has nothing out there now that fits the description "small, fast, state of the art." Too bad. Regards, Neil -----Original Message----- From: Mick McQuaid To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sent: 1/27/00 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Is The 240 *THE* Sub Notebook? Is TP240 even in the typical selection set? Looking at www.jpd.com, it appears all the Japanese are far ahead (Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic). I would be interested to hear why TP240 might be a better choice than any of these. From cph Thu Jan 27 23:31:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA25279 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:31:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15145; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:30:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:29:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15010; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:29:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14994; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:29:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (206.191.0.217 -> mx1.magmacom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:29:17 -0500 Received: from mail4.magma.ca (mail4.magma.ca [206.191.0.222]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA11795 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:29:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew (x2port46.magma.ca [206.191.28.46]) by mail4.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA10393 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:29:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001280429.XAA10393@mail4.magma.ca> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:09:35 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Margi [was: TP600 with WinTv USB] List-Unsubscribe: Bruce, I looked at the Margi site when I first got interested in the WinTV. I saw two things against the Margi product without actually checking the specs: first the price (U$350 vs. U$100) and secondly that it didn't have FM. I didn't buy anything as I was waiting for the WinTV version with FM (now apparently available). Also the fact that Margi uses a PCMCIA slot, which would mean swapping an existing card, vs. the free USB connection for the WinTV. I assume the PCMCIA allows for better quality, but as I said I wasn't really looking at specs; I assumed the WinTV was more a novelty and the Margi was more professional quality, but didn't really check. The lack of FM was enough. I'd be interested in knowing what to look for in comparing the units, though. On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:40:23 -0800, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >The Margi TV to GO will work on a 770, and on a 600 as far as I know. >It works very well indeed. Thanks! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Fri Jan 28 05:04:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA26258 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:04:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02976; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:02:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02864; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:02:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from tumlis.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01272; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:58:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from tumlis.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (129.187.155.98 -> tumlis.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:58:34 -0500 Received: from venus (venus.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de) by tumlis.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id AA17355 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:59:48 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000128105854.00922b40@tumlis> X-Sender: georg@tumlis X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:58:54 +0100 To: Mark Bell , From: Georg Diebel Subject: Re: TP770: Problem with CD-ROM In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000124051026.010b8100@postoffice2.bellatlantic. net> References: <3.0.6.32.20000124094329.0093de40@tumlis> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi Mark, thanks for your fast response (and sorry for my slow one). At 05:10 24.01.00 -0800, Mark Bell wrote: >How old is the CD-ROM drive? Did it come with your TP770? Your unit maybe >under warranty. If it was an Option purchased, how long ago? >. If you purchased it seperately (First gen 770's had the 20x and then 24x >CD-ROM units as optional). First: it's not easy to determine everything exactly, as I have purchased the used laptop from the original owner. A sticker seems to indicate that the CD-ROM was manufactured in 1998, so I suppose it was added later as an option (the TP itself was originally purchased end of 1997, so I was told). In this case, there would be no 3-year warranty on the CD-ROM, right? However, I'm not sure how to go about the warranty: can I just go to the IBM website and input my address, serial no. and so on and then claim a case for warranty? Wouldn't they want to see some original invoice or such? (*) (And: was the 3-year warranty standard with the TP770? Or was it an option which could or could not be bought?) (*) Which would be a problem: I have kind of an invoice from the seller, but not the original invoice. TIA & greetings, Georg >At 09:43 AM 01/24/2000 +0100, Georg Diebel wrote: >>Hello everybody, >> >>I've got a TP770 with a 24x-CD-ROM drive in the Ultrabay-Slot. >> >>It appears that I've got more and more problems reading CDs or CD-Rs over >>the last weeks - when at first initializing a new CD, the drive spins up, >>down again, up, down and so on; sometimes the system hangs a bit. Sometimes >>the CD can be accessed without problems after that, sometimes not at all, >>sometimes with long access times. Most of these CDs run perfectly in other >>PCs. >> >>May the laser assembly be maladjusted? After all, it can easily be touched >>(unintentionally). >> >>Does anyone know what to do about it? Can the laser / optics be adjusted or >>cleaned? >>Or should I go for a replacement? (If so: where could I get one - >>refubished or new?) -- Georg Diebel, Inst. for Integrated Circuits, Technical University of Munich Mailto:G_Diebel@lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de Phone: 0049-89-289-28578 Homepage: http://www.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de/people/gd.html From cph Fri Jan 28 08:22:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA26971 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:22:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15447; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:12:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15343; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:12:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.clinet.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15330; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:12:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.clinet.fi (194.100.0.12 -> smtp.clinet.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:12:14 -0500 Received: from tp701 (255-116.dyn.clinet.fi [194.100.255.116]) by smtp.clinet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA69635 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:52:48 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200001281252.OAA69635@smtp.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:12:24 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <200001280429.XAA10393@mail4.magma.ca> Subject: Re: Margi [was: TP600 with WinTv USB] X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 at 03:07 PM you, "Andrew Webber" , said: >Bruce, I looked at the Margi site when I first got interested in the >WinTV. I saw two things against the Margi product without actually >checking the specs: first the price (U$350 vs. U$100) and secondly that Just a comment about the price of the Margi DVD-to-Go: you can buy them (new) for less than half the amount you mentioned. I just bought one from a guy selling them on Ebay (although not via an auction) for $160 (incl. shipping). Bruce Markovitz is selling them all the time (also on Ebay). Dominique From cph Fri Jan 28 09:13:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA27192 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:13:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19706; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:02:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:00:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19514; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:00:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19488; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:00:54 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax13.vramp.net [198.138.8.76]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA02424; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:59:28 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Georg Diebel" , Cc: "Mark Bell" Subject: RE: TP770: Problem with CD-ROM Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:00:14 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000128105854.00922b40@tumlis> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Georg Diebel [mailto:g_diebel@lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de] schreib: > In this case, there would be no 3-year warranty on the CD-ROM, right? No, but sometimes IBM will view a returned unit as a "whole" with accessories that were added after the original purchase. Of course, that only applies to IBM accessories. > However, I'm not sure how to go about the warranty: can I just go to the > IBM website and input my address, serial no. and so on and then claim a > case for warranty? Wouldn't they want to see some original invoice or such? You needn't register on the IBM website in order to receive warranty service. Nor do you need an original invoice in my experience. Provided the unit has not been reported stolen, mere possession will normally allow you to receive warranty service. IBM has been very liberal in the past as to warranty repairs. If the unit was within the warranty period based on date of manufacture, they would usually repair it under warranty. I have heard recently of cases where EZ-Serve has denied warranty repair on units where proof could not be provided that the unit was still in the hands of the original purchaser. This was resolved with some phone calls to IBM and the units were repaired. > (And: was the 3-year warranty standard with the TP770? Or was it an option > which could or could not be bought?) Three years was the normal warranty on all 770s. There was a 5 year warranty (2 year extension) option. > (*) Which would be a problem: I have kind of an invoice from the seller, > but not the original invoice. You don't normally need the original invoice. I would contact IBM DE and ask for repair under warranty. I don't believe there is an EZ-Serve type of service available in EU, but that shouldn't be a problem as they have repair depots all over. Es gibt einem in Berlin. See: http://www.de.ibm.com/general/ibmd_3a.html for contact information about IBM DE. Gruss, James From cph Fri Jan 28 10:05:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA27442 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:05:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23829; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:54:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23658; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:54:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.actionwebs.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23644; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:54:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.actionwebs.net (216.5.9.4 -> apollo.actionwebs.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:54:06 -0500 Received: from ccs ([208.244.215.242]) by localhost.actionwebs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA17877; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:50:29 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Mark Lemon" To: "'rudolph wratten'" , Subject: Whatever happened to Bob? Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:49:59 -0600 Message-ID: <000d01bf69a7$556fabe0$7700a8c0@ccs.candid.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000c01bf6926$d5e399c0$b30d4a0c@701c> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Rudolph, I saw Bob last time I was in the Bay area in a little club. Bald, fat, and chain-smoking Winstons - but still good old friendly Bob. He has a comedy/lounge act where he tells bad programmer jokes and name drops Bill Gates every other sentence; how they used to be "this close", the parties he attended at the "big house", and his torrid relationship with Tilde from ZDNetwork. It was depressing. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Rudolph wratten [mailto:cowthief@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 6:30 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Thinkpad 730T > > <> > > > What ever happened to "BoB" of Microsoft Win 95 fame?. > > As always, have fun. > From cph Fri Jan 28 11:30:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA28045 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:30:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02792; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:29:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:28:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02660; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:28:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02647; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:28:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93 -> uhura.concentric.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:28:19 -0500 Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id LAA26859; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:28:17 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from RJWLaptop1 (w066.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.66]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id LAA20717; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:28:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000128081652.00adeb90@pop3.iceka1.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka1.com@pop3.iceka1.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:18:33 -0800 To: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: RE: Is The 240 *THE* Sub Notebook? In-Reply-To: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1D62@EXCH1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 10:04 PM 01/27/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Five years ago IBM was >asking $5000 for a 701C, the most dimunitive of laptop PCs (if you don't ...and they have nothing to show for it. The 701's did *NOT* sell until they dropped the price drastically to the point of it being a roughly $1500 machine. --- Randal Whittle rwhittle@iceka1.com (818) 552-2065 Iceka Consulting -- Marketspace Strategy Consultants New Economy - New Rules - New Strategies From cph Fri Jan 28 11:55:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA28221 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:55:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05524; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:54:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:54:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05393; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:54:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.panix.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05309; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:54:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.panix.com (166.84.0.213 -> mail2.panix.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:54:09 -0500 Received: from mailhost.panix.com (broccole.dialup.access.net [166.84.249.114]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BF3551554B for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:54:02 -0500 (EST) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer for OS/2 (Green Edition Ver 3.0) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:35:04 EST From: Michael Cole Reply-To: Michael Cole Subject: tp701c - full battery crashes Message-Id: <20000128165402.BF3551554B@mail2.panix.com> List-Unsubscribe: ** Reply to note from owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:16:44 -0500 (EST) Hi all, My venerable 701 dies immediately after removing AC power, even when the battery is full. It goes down with a regular click-click-click until (I assume) the battery is fully discharged. I'm pretty sure it is not the battery as I get the same behavior with a new battery. Anybody seen this? Any ideas? Thanks, Michael Michael Cole Griffon Associates cole@griffoninc.com From cph Fri Jan 28 13:19:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA28853 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:19:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13186; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:17:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:17:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13087; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:17:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13069; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:17:06 -0500 Received: from 770 ([12.79.8.251]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000128181703.JVQA7433@770>; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:17:03 +0000 Message-ID: <389207E2.35EC@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:19:30 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Webber CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Margi [was: TP600 with WinTv USB] References: <200001280429.XAA10393@mail4.magma.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I just don't see where there is any comparison. USB is SLOW. I tried a USB camera, it is choppy and does not hardly run at all at full screen. You can hook up a camcorder to the Margi card and use it as a full time real time monitor, AND it will do good capture at resuced resolutions (dependant on CPU speed, of course). Andrew Webber wrote: > > Bruce, I looked at the Margi site when I first got interested in > the WinTV. I saw two things against the Margi product without > actually checking the specs: first the price (U$350 vs. U$100) and > secondly that it didn't have FM. I didn't buy anything as I was > waiting for the WinTV version with FM (now apparently available). > > Also the fact that Margi uses a PCMCIA slot, which would mean > swapping an existing card, vs. the free USB connection for the > WinTV. I assume the PCMCIA allows for better quality, but as I > said I wasn't really looking at specs; I assumed the WinTV was more > a novelty and the Margi was more professional quality, but didn't > really check. The lack of FM was enough. > > I'd be interested in knowing what to look for in comparing the > units, though. > > On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:40:23 -0800, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > >The Margi TV to GO will work on a 770, and on a 600 as far as I know. > >It works very well indeed. > > Thanks! > > andrew > ------ > current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Fri Jan 28 13:20:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA28865 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:20:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13516; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:19:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13436; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:19:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13410; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:19:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:19:17 -0500 Received: from 770 ([12.79.8.251]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000128181915.JWKG7433@770>; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:19:15 +0000 Message-ID: <38920866.4814@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:21:42 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominique Pivard CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Margi [was: TP600 with WinTv USB] References: <200001281252.OAA69635@smtp.clinet.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: He is talking about the Capture card, NOT the DVD card. Have never found any cheap source for the capture card (which is a component of the TV to GO system) Dominique Pivard wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 at 03:07 PM you, > "Andrew Webber" , said: > > >Bruce, I looked at the Margi site when I first got interested in the > >WinTV. I saw two things against the Margi product without actually > >checking the specs: first the price (U$350 vs. U$100) and secondly that > > Just a comment about the price of the Margi DVD-to-Go: you can buy them > (new) for less than half the amount you mentioned. I just bought one from > a guy selling them on Ebay (although not via an auction) for $160 (incl. > shipping). Bruce Markovitz is selling them all the time (also on Ebay). > > Dominique From cph Fri Jan 28 16:05:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA30456 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:05:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27439; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:04:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:59:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27013; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from bradnet.legend.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26998; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:58:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from bradnet.legend.co.uk (194.164.19.39 -> bradnet.legend.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:58:51 -0500 Received: by bradnet.legend.co.uk (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03/2.0) id SAA075.81; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:31:11 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:31:11 +0000 From: John Poltorak To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600 with WinTv USB Message-ID: <20000127183111.I2239@bradnet.legend.co.uk> References: <20000127142310.G2239@bradnet.legend.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.15i In-Reply-To: ; from Richard Chalk on Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 11:30:55AM -0500 X-Operating-System: OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 11:30:55AM -0500, Richard Chalk wrote: > Looking at the Nogatech unit, it appears to be the same as the Hauppauge. I thought the Nogatech unit was a PCMCIA device. Does it have a Radio? > -----Original Message----- > From: John Poltorak [mailto:jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 9:23 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: TP600 with WinTv USB > > > > After seeing:- > > http://www.hauppauge.com/html/usb_data.htm > > I wondered if anyone had ever tried one connected to a TP600... > > Having TV and Radio which the Model 621 offers is something I've > always wanted to have on my ThinkPad. > > -- > John > From cph Fri Jan 28 22:35:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA32686 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:35:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16827; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:31:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:30:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16687; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:30:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from clio.webcombo.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16672; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from clio.webcombo.net (207.250.9.20 -> mail.webcombo.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:30:22 -0500 Received: from 770z (1Cust192.tnt4.atl2.da.uu.net [63.22.41.192]) by clio.webcombo.net (8.9.3/[.92 webCOMBO - ALL UCE PROHIBITED]) with SMTP id VAA06820; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:29:21 -0600 From: "Richard Chalk" To: "John Poltorak" , Subject: RE: TP600 with WinTv USB Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:30:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20000127183111.I2239@bradnet.legend.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Obviously they do both. Have a look at their website... There is one with radio, and one without. Richard -----Original Message----- From: John Poltorak [mailto:jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 1:31 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600 with WinTv USB On Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 11:30:55AM -0500, Richard Chalk wrote: > Looking at the Nogatech unit, it appears to be the same as the Hauppauge. I thought the Nogatech unit was a PCMCIA device. Does it have a Radio? > -----Original Message----- > From: John Poltorak [mailto:jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 9:23 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: TP600 with WinTv USB > > > > After seeing:- > > http://www.hauppauge.com/html/usb_data.htm > > I wondered if anyone had ever tried one connected to a TP600... > > Having TV and Radio which the Model 621 offers is something I've > always wanted to have on my ThinkPad. > > -- > John > From cph Fri Jan 28 22:57:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA00320 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:57:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18017; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:53:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:53:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17944; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:53:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17931; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:53:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (206.191.0.217 -> mx1.magmacom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:53:10 -0500 Received: from mail4.magma.ca (mail4.magma.ca [206.191.0.222]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA06712 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:53:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew (x2port23.magma.ca [206.191.28.23]) by mail4.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA18254 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:53:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001290353.WAA18254@mail4.magma.ca> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:11:05 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Margi [was: TP600 with WinTv USB] List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:19:30 -0800, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >I just don't see where there is any comparison. USB is SLOW. >I tried a USB camera, it is choppy and does not hardly run >at all at full screen. You can hook up a camcorder to the >Margi card and use it as a full time real time monitor, AND >it will do good capture at resuced resolutions (dependant >on CPU speed, of course). Thanks, Bruce! Are there similar benefits when hooked up to cable TV or antenna? Or can the USB provide the bandwidth necessary in that limited situation? andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Fri Jan 28 23:00:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA00347 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:00:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18316; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:56:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:56:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18239; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:56:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18225; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:55:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.40 -> mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:55:59 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.12.167]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000129035553.KTWZ27376@compaq>; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 03:55:53 +0000 Message-ID: <389264A9.58F4@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:55:21 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Webber CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Margi [was: TP600 with WinTv USB] References: <200001290353.WAA18254@mail4.magma.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: USB is not fast enough for video! Andrew Webber wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:19:30 -0800, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > >I just don't see where there is any comparison. USB is SLOW. > >I tried a USB camera, it is choppy and does not hardly run > >at all at full screen. You can hook up a camcorder to the > >Margi card and use it as a full time real time monitor, AND > >it will do good capture at resuced resolutions (dependant > >on CPU speed, of course). > > Thanks, Bruce! > > Are there similar benefits when hooked up to cable TV or antenna? > Or can the USB provide the bandwidth necessary in that limited > situation? > > andrew > ------ > current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Sat Jan 29 00:22:24 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA00746 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:22:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22412; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:17:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:17:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22305; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:17:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22289; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (200.36.38.5 -> CHAPALA.lagunanet.net.mx) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:17:02 -0500 Received: from 148.243.6.59 ([148.243.6.59]) by chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (Build 93 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA03102; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:13:13 -0600 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: ross@math.hawaii.edu Cc: daniel@basterfield.com, ecw1@duke.edu, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: i have a thinkpad 380D and a question Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:19:26 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: <+qQk44mip9YN092yn@islandnet.com> References: <38908A67.9C86AC3D@basterfield.com> <003701bf68fe$e70e01e0$3762183f@math.hawaii.edu> In-Reply-To: <003701bf68fe$e70e01e0$3762183f@math.hawaii.edu> Lines: 25 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: I hope that we keep David R. here by tempting him into these discussions that really don't have anything to do with Thinkpads. My free-online initialization string is ATM1W1. I was happy with free-online. You can sign up from outside Britain if you can give them an address and phone inside Britain. The number they give you is accessible from anywhere, and the only charge is the cost of the phone call, equivalent to a local call in Britain. And that is paid by your lucky host, not by you. About 1 p per minute. One of the other David Ross's became an International Master of chess by scoring 6 points out of 9 at the Canadian Championship in Brantford, Ontario. Congratulations, Dave. >- David R. -- cheers Jonathan From cph Sat Jan 29 00:24:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA00756 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:24:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22717; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:20:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22634; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta3.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22608; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:20:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta3.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.141 -> mta3.snfc21.pbi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:20:19 -0500 Received: from pacbell.net ([216.101.187.199]) by mta3.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FP2009EXZD60Q@mta3.snfc21.pbi.net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:03:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:00:31 -0800 From: Gerry Subject: Re: Removing Libretto 50CT passwords To: Graham Marshall , ThinkPad Mailing List Message-id: <389273EF.4C369C5E@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <86qbqs$pga$1@news.ox.ac.uk> List-Unsubscribe: I also bought a used Libretto. Is there a Libretto mailing List? Gerry Graham Marshall wrote: > I've just bought a Libretto 50CT second hand and want to disable both > passwords of the device. I know and use the supervisor password but I fear > that disabling the supervisor password will then enable the user password > that I don't know. > > Any suggestions? > > So far I've flashed the bios and tried disconnecting the RTC battery neither > of which worked. Just to prove I didn't half inch the thing it's serial > number is 87020925! > > Graham From cph Sat Jan 29 08:29:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA01795 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:29:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15899; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:24:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15796; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:24:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15693; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:20:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:20:08 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-46.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.46]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA29379 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:19:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000129082307.00811270@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:23:07 -0800 To: From: Mark Bell Subject: 600x/390x memory In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20000128105854.00922b40@tumlis> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Well, I finally got in a few Kingston 600x/390x parts (100mhz rated 128meg chips). I've found they will NOT work in the 770 or 600 series. They look, smell and taste like the right chip, but when installed, it does not register. If you go into setup, it will acknowledge the memory is installed, but it is not usable. On reversing the memory install (66mhz memory in a 100mhz machine), it wouldn't work at all nor was it registered. So for everyone looking into taking their old memory with them or looking towards the future with their memory upgrades by purchasing 100mhz parts for the 600/600e/770 machines, sorry. :( The memory must be exacting. I handed the chips to a tech to try in a newer x based machine (390x I believe), and it conked out immediately. Darn... Test memory: Kingston 390x/600x 128meg part Test Systems: 600 (P2-300Mhz) 770ed (p2-266Mhz) 770z (p2-366Mhz) 390x (or 600x. 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Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Sat Jan 29 08:51:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA01844 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:51:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16767; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:46:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:46:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16693; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:46:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16680; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:46:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.61 -> smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:46:40 -0500 Received: from 216-164-130-172.s553.tnt2.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.130.172] helo=desktop) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12EYD0-0007ku-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:46:38 -0500 Message-ID: <008e01bf6a5f$46787500$ac82a4d8@desktop> From: "Donald Malcolm MacQueen" To: Subject: Buy an External Cd for 560 where? Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:46:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I want one just to load software. Price is more important than speed. Thanks. Donald ---------------------------------------- Donald M. MacQueen Registered Smalltalk Bigot ---------------------------------------- I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk! ---------------------------------------- From cph Sat Jan 29 08:56:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA01856 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:56:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17168; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:51:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17095; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from fama.webcombo.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17080; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:51:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from fama.webcombo.net (207.250.9.22 -> mail.webcombo.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:51:51 -0500 Received: from 770z (1Cust192.tnt4.atl2.da.uu.net [63.22.41.192]) by fama.webcombo.net (8.9.3/[.92 webCOMBO - ALL UCE PROHIBITED]) with SMTP id HAA13779; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 07:51:20 -0600 From: "Richard Chalk" To: , "Andrew Webber" Cc: Subject: RE: Margi [was: TP600 with WinTv USB] Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:51:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <389264A9.58F4@worldnet.att.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: You need to look into this more before jumping to that conclusion. Go to www.nogatech.com, and look under products, then click on "others". Look at the data sheet (pdf) for "USB-TV" (which appears to be identical to the Hauppauge) and it says "Nogatech's advanced video compression technology and software enable unparalleled throughput of up to 30 frames per second, giving the user superior live video performance" The specs on the chip used say 30 fps at CIF resolution, and 15 fps at VGA resolution. When it isn't locking up, it works fine at 30 fps on my notebook. Remember, USB can handle 12 megabits per second, and a good television image can be delivered in half that bandwidth, using good compression techniques. Carried to the broadcast level, a wide-screen, high-definition picture only needs about 15 megabits per second... Richard -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Markowitz [mailto:scosgt@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:55 PM To: Andrew Webber Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Margi [was: TP600 with WinTv USB] USB is not fast enough for video! Andrew Webber wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:19:30 -0800, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > >I just don't see where there is any comparison. USB is SLOW. > >I tried a USB camera, it is choppy and does not hardly run > >at all at full screen. You can hook up a camcorder to the > >Margi card and use it as a full time real time monitor, AND > >it will do good capture at resuced resolutions (dependant > >on CPU speed, of course). > > Thanks, Bruce! > > Are there similar benefits when hooked up to cable TV or antenna? > Or can the USB provide the bandwidth necessary in that limited > situation? > > andrew > ------ > current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Sat Jan 29 09:43:11 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA01970 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:43:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19390; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:38:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:38:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19287; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:38:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19274; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:38:11 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax41.vramp.net [198.138.8.104]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA10631; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:38:01 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Donald Malcolm MacQueen" , Subject: RE: Buy an External Cd for 560 where? Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:38:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <008e01bf6a5f$46787500$ac82a4d8@desktop> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Don, Try my good buddy Louie the Liquidator :-), IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $89 ITEM #...1969 100 SERIES http://hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=3&sku=1969+100+SERIES That's the one sans speakers. He is still selling the other which has speakers, the price is down to $115. When (if) it hits $100 I'll probably spring for a couple. IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $115 ITEM #...1969-100 SERIES http://hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=3&sku=1969%2D100+SERIES Regards, James > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald Malcolm MacQueen [mailto:dmacq@erols.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 8:47 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Buy an External Cd for 560 where? > > > I want one just to load software. > Price is more important than speed. > > Thanks. > > Donald > ---------------------------------------- > Donald M. MacQueen > Registered Smalltalk Bigot > ---------------------------------------- > I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk! > ---------------------------------------- > From cph Sat Jan 29 10:06:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA02017 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:06:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20444; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:02:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:02:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20364; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:01:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20351; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:01:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.229 -> out2.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:01:58 -0500 Received: from oscar ([32.100.143.19]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2000012915015522901q2qr4e>; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:01:56 +0000 Message-ID: <003c01bf6a69$5b030c60$138f6420@oscar> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin" From: "Tom Franklin" To: "James H. E. Maugham" Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: Subject: Re: Buy an External Cd for 560 where? Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 07:58:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Do you know if this CD-ROM requires a wall wart power supply to work or can it power itself from the laptop? ----- Original Message ----- > Try my good buddy Louie the Liquidator :-), > > IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $89 > ITEM #...1969 100 SERIES > http://hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=3&sku=1969+100+SERIES > > That's the one sans speakers. > > He is still selling the other which has speakers, the price is down to $115. > When (if) it hits $100 I'll probably spring for a couple. > > IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $115 > ITEM #...1969-100 SERIES > http://hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=3&sku=1969%2D100+SERIES From cph Sat Jan 29 10:13:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA02073 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:13:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20931; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:09:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:08:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20856; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:08:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pps-1.smartworld.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20843; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:08:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pps-1.smartworld.net (216.70.64.22 -> pps-1.smartworld.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:08:53 -0500 Received: from c454306b (1Cust131.tnt1.bellingham.wa.da.uu.net [63.28.105.131]) by pps-1.smartworld.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA56950; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:08:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003301bf6a6a$a5172ba0$83691c3f@c454306b> Reply-To: "peter machule" From: "peter machule" To: "Tom Franklin" Cc: "thinkpad" References: <003c01bf6a69$5b030c60$138f6420@oscar> Subject: Re: Buy an External Cd for 560 where? Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 07:07:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Included Inernal rechargable battey pack and / or the included ac adapter . Voltage and current requirements are too high to be "borrowed" from laptop ..peter.. ----- Original Message ----- ? > Do you know if this CD-ROM requires a wall wart power supply to work or can > it power itself from the laptop? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Try my good buddy Louie the Liquidator :-), > > > > IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $89 > > ITEM #...1969 100 SERIES > > http://hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=3&sku=1969+100+SERIES > > > > That's the one sans speakers. > > > > He is still selling the other which has speakers, the price is down to > $115. > > When (if) it hits $100 I'll probably spring for a couple. > > > > IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $115 > > ITEM #...1969-100 SERIES > > > http://hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=3&sku=1969%2D100+SERIES > > From cph Sat Jan 29 11:03:55 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA02198 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:03:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22852; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:59:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:57:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22677; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:57:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22664; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:57:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (216.98.165.6) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:57:43 -0500 Received: by BIGRED with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:01:09 -0600 Message-ID: From: Greg Langham To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: CDRW for TP600e Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:02:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I am looking for a good external CDRW for my ThinkPad 600e running Win 98. I know I have three interface choices: parallel, USB, or SCSI. The parallel option is out based on past experiences, so I'm looking at either USB or SCSI. Has anyone had any experience with USB attached CDRW's? Do they make coasters like the parallel port versions? If I go SCSI, can someone recommend a good SCSI PC Card and CDRW solution? Thanks. Greg From cph Sat Jan 29 11:10:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA02222 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:10:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23254; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:04:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23141; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:04:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23127; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:04:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (166.84.0.212 -> mail1.panix.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:04:30 -0500 Received: from mailhost.panix.com (broccole.dialup.access.net [166.84.249.114]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AB5C30FDB for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:04:28 -0500 (EST) To: Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer for OS/2 (Green Edition Ver 3.0) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:45:30 EST From: Michael Cole Reply-To: Michael Cole Subject: Re: tp701c - full battery crashes Message-Id: <20000129160428.5AB5C30FDB@mail1.panix.com> List-Unsubscribe: ** Reply to note from "Mel" Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:48:18 -0800 > http://www.innernet.net/jlk/uploads/701reset.zip Mel, Thanks for the pointer to the utility to reset the battery gauge on my 701c. I'll give it a try. Do you know if the recharger on the 701 pays attention to the fuel gauge to decide when its time to trickle charge? I suppose I'd assumed that the recharger was a rather simple hardware setup that charged the battery until the voltage was correct. Anyhow, I'll try it and report the results. Thanks, Michael Michael Cole Griffon Associates cole@griffoninc.com From cph Sat Jan 29 11:20:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA02265 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:20:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23916; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:15:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23777; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pps-1.smartworld.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23758; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:14:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pps-1.smartworld.net (216.70.64.22 -> pps-1.smartworld.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:14:49 -0500 Received: from chuck (1Cust179.tnt10.sfo3.da.uu.net [63.23.28.179]) by pps-1.smartworld.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA58093 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:14:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001291614.LAA58093@pps-1.smartworld.net> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:14:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: FS: Thinkpad 355CS Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) List-Unsubscribe: For Sale, ThinkPad 355C for sale. NO HARD DRIVE. Good for parts? Works fok (color, dual scan, 8" screen, 486/33, 8mb). Not a powerhouse, but maybe you can use for parts? (Trackpoint doesn't work, but an external mouse works fine and the little button that ejects the floppy is missing -- put a pen-cap works fine). B.O. over $50 plus shipping. Sorry for the re-post from a couple of weeks ago, but someone who wanted to buy it never finalized the deal. From cph Sat Jan 29 11:34:59 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA02408 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:34:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24549; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:29:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24390; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:29:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from pps-1.smartworld.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24377; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pps-1.smartworld.net (216.70.64.22 -> pps-1.smartworld.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:29:05 -0500 Received: from chuck (1Cust216.tnt9.sfo3.da.uu.net [63.23.26.216]) by pps-1.smartworld.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA83882 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:29:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001291629.LAA83882@pps-1.smartworld.net> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:28:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: FS: Thinkpad 355CS Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <200001291614.LAA58093@pps-1.smartworld.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) List-Unsubscribe: On 29 Jan 00, at 8:14, Chuck Blaisdell wrote: > For Sale, ThinkPad.... Sorry for the confusion between description and subject line and for the waste of bandwidth: It's a 355C, active screen. From cph Sat Jan 29 11:47:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA02476 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:47:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25224; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:41:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25084; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25071; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:41:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.18 -> mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:41:14 -0500 Received: from 701c ([63.14.134.73]) by mtiwmhc09.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000129164111.YKJU7433@701c> for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 16:41:11 +0000 Message-ID: <004a01bf6a77$ae74b5c0$49860e3f@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: TP 701 C/CS Battery Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:41:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. The thinkpad battery is a set of 8 AA N .5 cells, a thermister, and a contact block made from a PC board. The charging circuit is a standard chip. connecting the laptop to external power with no battery and booting should reset the charge value register. This is, for the most part, the same chip used in the motorola ultra classic and early flip "DPC 550/ DPC 950" cell 'phone,. The theory of operation ia contained in the TP service manual # 2. From cph Sat Jan 29 12:00:04 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA02529 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:00:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26102; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:55:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:54:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25847; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:54:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25831; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:54:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:54:12 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.13.225]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000129165410.TMKC2478@compaq>; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 16:54:10 +0000 Message-ID: <38931B15.7C03@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:53:41 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Chalk CC: Andrew Webber , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Margi [was: TP600 with WinTv USB] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I had experience with the Nogatech PCMCIA TV tuner, and it was terrible. Now you say, "It works good when it is not locking up". What a great endorsement! I have no axe to grind here, I just have not been at all happy with USB. I have a USB camera, which is horrible. I have tried a USB network card, which I could not get to work at all. The USB mouse and serial port do work, but cause conflicts with software. So, I am glad we still have Zoom Video and PCMCIA. Richard Chalk wrote: > > You need to look into this more before jumping to that conclusion. Go to > www.nogatech.com, and look under products, then click on "others". Look at > the data sheet (pdf) for "USB-TV" (which appears to be identical to the > Hauppauge) and it says > > "Nogatech's advanced video compression technology and > software enable unparalleled throughput of up to 30 > frames per second, giving the user superior live video > performance" > > The specs on the chip used say 30 fps at CIF resolution, and 15 fps at VGA > resolution. > > When it isn't locking up, it works fine at 30 fps on my notebook. > > Remember, USB can handle 12 megabits per second, and a good television image > can be delivered in half that bandwidth, using good compression techniques. > Carried to the broadcast level, a wide-screen, high-definition picture only > needs about 15 megabits per second... > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Markowitz [mailto:scosgt@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:55 PM > To: Andrew Webber > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Margi [was: TP600 with WinTv USB] > > USB is not fast enough for video! > > Andrew Webber wrote: > > > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:19:30 -0800, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > >I just don't see where there is any comparison. USB is SLOW. > > >I tried a USB camera, it is choppy and does not hardly run > > >at all at full screen. You can hook up a camcorder to the > > >Margi card and use it as a full time real time monitor, AND > > >it will do good capture at resuced resolutions (dependant > > >on CPU speed, of course). > > > > Thanks, Bruce! > > > > Are there similar benefits when hooked up to cable TV or antenna? > > Or can the USB provide the bandwidth necessary in that limited > > situation? > > > > andrew > > ------ > > current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Sat Jan 29 12:00:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA02541 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:00:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26273; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:55:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25955; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:55:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25942; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:55:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:55:01 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-436.gate.net [199.227.131.245]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05202; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:53:39 -0500 Message-ID: <38931B2C.38279955@gate.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:54:04 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Bell CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 600x/390x memory References: <3.0.6.32.20000128105854.00922b40@tumlis> <3.0.6.32.20000129082307.00811270@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: most likely due to different programming on the eprom on the memory chip.. the good news is, that the 100mhz parts are not that much more than the 66mhz parts.. Mark Bell wrote: > Well, > > I finally got in a few Kingston 600x/390x parts (100mhz > rated 128meg chips). I've found they will NOT work in > the 770 or 600 series. They look, smell and taste like the right > chip, but when installed, it does not register. If you > go into setup, it will acknowledge the memory is installed, > but it is not usable. On reversing the memory install (66mhz > memory in a 100mhz machine), it wouldn't work at all nor > was it registered. > > So for everyone looking into taking their old memory with > them or looking towards the future with their memory > upgrades by purchasing 100mhz parts for the 600/600e/770 > machines, sorry. :( The memory must be exacting. I handed > the chips to a tech to try in a newer x based machine > (390x I believe), and it conked out immediately. > > Darn... > > Test memory: > > Kingston 390x/600x 128meg part > > Test Systems: > > 600 (P2-300Mhz) > 770ed (p2-266Mhz) > 770z (p2-366Mhz) > 390x (or 600x. I can check specifically) > > Mark > > ------------------------------------------------- > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > ------------------------------------------------- > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > Network and System consultation and installation > -------------------------------------------------- -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sat Jan 29 12:33:13 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA02665 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:33:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28314; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:28:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:26:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28126; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:26:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28113; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:26:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (206.191.0.217 -> mx1.magmacom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:26:29 -0500 Received: from mail4.magma.ca (mail4.magma.ca [206.191.0.222]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11110 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:26:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew (x2port127.magma.ca [206.191.28.127]) by mail4.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA18780 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:26:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001291726.MAA18780@mail4.magma.ca> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:25:26 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Margi [was: TP600 with WinTv USB] List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:09:35 -0500, Andrew Webber wrote: >I didn't buy anything as I was waiting for the WinTV >version with FM (now apparently available). Has anyone seen a Hauppauge model 621 in the "flesh"? That will be great news if it's actually shipping now. BTW, has anyone seen the Pinnacle equivalent? http://www.pinnaclesys.com/Studio/PCTV-USB/ It's $100 on their site, I think $85 from Egghead (free shipping), and there's an opened one on eBay currently at $60. USB with FM. Bruce, when you say USB is too slow for video, are you including ordinary TV broadcasts, rather than (say) real-time camera connection? Thanks! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Sat Jan 29 12:35:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA02683 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:35:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28647; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:29:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28416; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:29:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from fama.webcombo.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28403; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:29:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from fama.webcombo.net (207.250.9.22 -> mail.webcombo.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:29:52 -0500 Received: from 770z (1Cust192.tnt4.atl2.da.uu.net [63.22.41.192]) by fama.webcombo.net (8.9.3/[.92 webCOMBO - ALL UCE PROHIBITED]) with SMTP id LAA31223 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:29:25 -0600 From: "Richard Chalk" Cc: Subject: RE:Hauppauge/Nogatech USB, which was Margi, which even earlier was: [TP600 with WinTv USB] Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:29:51 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <38931B15.7C03@worldnet.att.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I am not referring to the PCMCIA unit, I am referring to the USB one, which I referred to in my note. The lockup problem I discussed earlier in this forum was with a 770Z, and is a problem with the Trident chipset, not the tuner. The "endorsement" was with reference to the throughput of the USB port handling compressed video, not the combination of products in particular. When used with another (desktop) computer, the video quality is excellent, actually superior to the PCI card, which seems to pick up interference from inside the computer, unless the signal is REALLY strong!! Richard -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Markowitz [mailto:scosgt@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 11:54 AM To: Richard Chalk Cc: Andrew Webber; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Margi [was: TP600 with WinTv USB] I had experience with the Nogatech PCMCIA TV tuner, and it was terrible. Now you say, "It works good when it is not locking up". What a great endorsement! I have no axe to grind here, I just have not been at all happy with USB. I have a USB camera, which is horrible. I have tried a USB network card, which I could not get to work at all. The USB mouse and serial port do work, but cause conflicts with software. So, I am glad we still have Zoom Video and PCMCIA. Richard Chalk wrote: > > You need to look into this more before jumping to that conclusion. Go to > www.nogatech.com, and look under products, then click on "others". Look at > the data sheet (pdf) for "USB-TV" (which appears to be identical to the > Hauppauge) and it says > > "Nogatech's advanced video compression technology and > software enable unparalleled throughput of up to 30 > frames per second, giving the user superior live video > performance" > > The specs on the chip used say 30 fps at CIF resolution, and 15 fps at VGA > resolution. > > When it isn't locking up, it works fine at 30 fps on my notebook. > > Remember, USB can handle 12 megabits per second, and a good television image > can be delivered in half that bandwidth, using good compression techniques. > Carried to the broadcast level, a wide-screen, high-definition picture only > needs about 15 megabits per second... > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Markowitz [mailto:scosgt@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:55 PM > To: Andrew Webber > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Margi [was: TP600 with WinTv USB] > > USB is not fast enough for video! > > Andrew Webber wrote: > > > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:19:30 -0800, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > >I just don't see where there is any comparison. USB is SLOW. > > >I tried a USB camera, it is choppy and does not hardly run > > >at all at full screen. You can hook up a camcorder to the > > >Margi card and use it as a full time real time monitor, AND > > >it will do good capture at resuced resolutions (dependant > > >on CPU speed, of course). > > > > Thanks, Bruce! > > > > Are there similar benefits when hooked up to cable TV or antenna? > > Or can the USB provide the bandwidth necessary in that limited > > situation? > > > > andrew > > ------ > > current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Sat Jan 29 12:48:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA02722 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:48:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29403; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:43:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:42:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29264; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29250; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.31 -> cpimssmtpu09.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:41:59 -0500 Received: from default - 63.27.205.225 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:41:58 -0800 Message-ID: <001701bf6a7e$f63d4fa0$e1cd1b3f@default> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Think" Subject: More CDRW questions Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:33:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Since this is off topic, & I need some help, could someone knowledgable please contact me directly? Thanks. From cph Sat Jan 29 15:56:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA03231 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:56:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09011; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:51:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:49:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08861; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:49:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from server2.snelnet.nl (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08847; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from server2.snelnet.nl (192.87.106.106 -> server2.snelnet.nl) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:49:19 -0500 Received: from netlinq.nl (adsl-145-99-66-109.snelnet.nl [145.99.66.109]) by server2.snelnet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18701 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:51:56 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <389352BF.36F9F2C@netlinq.nl> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:51:11 +0100 From: Jeroen Elfferich Organization: http://www.netlinq.nl/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: [770X] Blue screen when using harddisk in selectadock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I have a Thinkpad 770X (128 Mb RAM, 8 Gb HD, SXGA) running Windows 98 and a Selectabase 770 and Selectadock II at home. In the selectadock I have an additional 17 Gb and 27 Gb Maxtor IDE harddisk (drive E: and F:), as well as an external SCSI CD-RW (G:) and CD-ROM (H:). All is working fine, except... when I copy files from the 27 Gb or 17 Gb to any of the other disks (G: or D: or whatever). It often (not always) crashes after a random number of megabytes copied (sometimes it's at 10 megabytes, sometimes 500, sometimes 5000). This is very annoying, especially when I'm burning a CD. The crash usually comes as a blue screen, mentioning METHW95. Sometimes it continues to copy files after the blue screen, sometimes it reboots and sometimes it just freezes. Is there any way to solve this? Would an upgrade to Windows 2000 do any good? Settings of the Thinpad Configuration program? Thanks, Jeroen From cph Sat Jan 29 17:07:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA03400 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:07:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12561; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:03:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:00:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12319; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12305; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:00:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:00:17 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (kahuna.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA11302; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:00:07 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001301bf6aa4$351ae8c0$0f02000a@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "peter machule" , "Tom Franklin" , "Donald Malcolm MacQueen" Cc: "thinkpad" References: <003c01bf6a69$5b030c60$138f6420@oscar> <003301bf6a6a$a5172ba0$83691c3f@c454306b> Subject: Re: Buy an External Cd for 560 where? Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:00:06 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: It will also run off AA batteries, either normal or rechargeable. BTW, since I bought the 8-20x a few months ago, I've been using my 4x mainly for music CDs (holding on to it as a backup in case the 8-20 had problems), I could probably be persuaded to part with it for the right price. - David R. ross@math.hawaii.edu www.math.hawaii.edu/~ross ----- Original Message ----- Included Inernal rechargable battey pack and / or the included ac adapter . Voltage and current requirements are too high to be "borrowed" from laptop ..peter.. ----- Original Message ----- ? > Do you know if this CD-ROM requires a wall wart power supply to work or can > it power itself from the laptop? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Try my good buddy Louie the Liquidator :-), > > > > IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $89 > > ITEM #...1969 100 SERIES > > http://hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=3&sku=1969+100+SERIES > > > > That's the one sans speakers. > > > > He is still selling the other which has speakers, the price is down to > $115. > > When (if) it hits $100 I'll probably spring for a couple. > > > > IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $115 > > ITEM #...1969-100 SERIES > > > http://hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=3&sku=1969%2D100+SERIES > > From cph Sat Jan 29 17:25:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA03475 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:25:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13911; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:19:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13758; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:19:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13745; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:19:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:19:46 -0500 Received: from default (pool-207-205-181-89.phnx.grid.net [207.205.181.89]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA20564 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:19:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000f01bf6aa6$9fdadf60$59b5cdcf@default> From: "Chris Wright" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: IBM 730T Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:17:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Hello I am sorry for not introducing myself.... My name is Chris and I live in Colorado. Ok now the question...I have a 730T and I thrashed the PCMCIA HDD by fdisk and format. What I am trying to do is find DOS drivers for my PCMCIA card reader that is in my IBM Aptiva. I need these drivers so that I can format and sys my PCMCIA drive the right way so that my 730T can read it. I got a setup program through the internet for the drive......But it only runs under DOS and it does not see the PCMCIA drive. Through Win98 it sees it ok but I can not set it up right. Does anyone have any suggestions? Maybe an easier way that I don't know of. Help me please. Chris From cph Sat Jan 29 18:42:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA03716 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:42:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17416; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:38:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:36:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17231; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:36:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17215; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:36:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:36:28 -0500 Received: from 701c ([63.14.134.96]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000129233622.PBFE5516@701c> for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:36:22 +0000 Message-ID: <001201bf6ab1$aef969c0$60860e3f@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: IBN 730 T/TE Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:24:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. Common error. The DOS 6.2.2 OS is 16 bit based. Windows 98 is 32 bit based. A bit based hiccup is the problem. I recommend Windows 3.1.1/ DOS 6.2.2 for the 730s. The easy way is with something older, I have a 701C. The removable hard drive on the 701 allows me to have several OS' on hand. I have found this to be the easiest way so far. As always, have fun. From cph Sat Jan 29 19:26:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA03835 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 19:26:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19231; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 19:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 19:20:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19002; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 19:20:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18989; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 19:20:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (166.84.0.212 -> mail1.panix.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 19:20:04 -0500 Received: from mailhost.panix.com (broccole.dialup.access.net [166.84.249.114]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 960A230F42 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 19:20:01 -0500 (EST) To: Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer for OS/2 (Green Edition Ver 3.0) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:01:02 EST From: Michael Cole Reply-To: Michael Cole Subject: Re: tp701c - full battery crashes Message-Id: <20000130002001.960A230F42@mail1.panix.com> List-Unsubscribe: ** Reply to note from "Mel" Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:48:18 -0800 Hi, Well the reset battery utility solved the problem. I'd say this is a must-have utility for any tp701 owner. Thanks again, Michael Cole Michael Cole Griffon Associates cole@griffoninc.com From cph Sat Jan 29 20:24:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA04084 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:24:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21382; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:19:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:17:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21224; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21208; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:17:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (206.191.0.217 -> mx1.magmacom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:17:52 -0500 Received: from mail4.magma.ca (mail4.magma.ca [206.191.0.222]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27820 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew (x2port115.magma.ca [206.191.28.115]) by mail4.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA18220 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:17:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001300117.UAA18220@mail4.magma.ca> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:16:41 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Margi [was: TP600 with WinTv USB] List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:53:41 -0500, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >I have a USB camera, which is horrible. I have tried a USB >network card, which I could not get to work at all. The USB >mouse and serial port do work, but cause conflicts with >software. So, I am glad we still have Zoom Video and PCMCIA. Let's say I wanted to go with the Margi solution. Where would I get it? A search on shopper.com only turns up one vendor who wants $300 plus $8 shipping. Margi's price is $350 and they just say shipping may be added. Is there any other source? And what other TP-compatible TV tuner cards are on the market? Thanks! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Sat Jan 29 20:48:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA04171 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:48:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22622; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:43:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22542; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:43:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.infoave.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22529; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:43:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.infoave.net (165.166.0.27 -> smtp02.InfoAve.Net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:43:08 -0500 Received: from modern1 ("port 1446"@[204.116.59.115]) by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) with SMTP id <01JLAGGI3A7E8ZJNRC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:42:47 EST Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:34:22 -0500 From: Modern1 Subject: TP 355c To: THINKPADcsutkedu Message-id: <000d01bf6ac2$23bdbc60$733b74cc@modern1> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 List-Unsubscribe: Hi. has anyone had any problems installing Windows 95 on the 355c? I've attempted to install from a zip disk several times now and while the install goes well after the first reboot it insists on using compatibility mode drivers for both the floppy and the HD. Has anyone else had this problem or know of a workaround? Thanks, From cph Sat Jan 29 22:01:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA04382 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 22:01:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25675; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:56:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:56:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25540; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25525; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:56:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (204.112.54.11 -> access.mbnet.mb.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:56:04 -0500 Received: from CORUSCANT (24.66.41.126.mb.wave.home.com [24.66.41.126]) by access.mbnet.mb.ca (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA01893; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:55:58 -0600 (CST) Received: by CORUSCANT with Microsoft Mail id <01BF6A9A.A8D03B30@CORUSCANT>; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:51:47 -0600 Message-ID: <01BF6A9A.A8D03B30@CORUSCANT> From: Jason Savage To: "'Gerry'" , Graham Marshall , ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: RE: Removing Libretto 50CT passwords Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:51:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Yes, there is one. I look forward to seeing you on the list ************************************************************** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/archives/libretto/ - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ -------UNSUBSCRIBE------- mailto:libretto@basiclink.com?subject=cmd:unsubscribe --------UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST------ Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ************************************************************** -----Original Message----- From: Gerry [SMTP:gerka@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 11:01 PM To: Graham Marshall; ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Removing Libretto 50CT passwords I also bought a used Libretto. Is there a Libretto mailing List? Gerry Graham Marshall wrote: > I've just bought a Libretto 50CT second hand and want to disable both > passwords of the device. I know and use the supervisor password but I fear > that disabling the supervisor password will then enable the user password > that I don't know. > > Any suggestions? > > So far I've flashed the bios and tried disconnecting the RTC battery neither > of which worked. Just to prove I didn't half inch the thing it's serial > number is 87020925! > > Graham From cph Sun Jan 30 02:22:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA04991 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:22:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06139; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:14:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05979; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:14:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05966; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (207.155.198.79 -> darius.concentric.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:14:48 -0500 Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id CAA25962; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:14:46 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from RJWLaptop1 (w066.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.66]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id CAA12884; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:14:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000129230758.00aece00@pop3.iceka1.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka1.com@pop3.iceka1.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:14:00 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Putting a DVD drive into a TP 600--How to Play? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, I've had my Thinkpad 600 for over 18 months now,and have been doing more and more travelling. I thought it might be worthwhile to get a DVD drive for it and bring along the occasional DVD movie to watch on a plane or even in hotel rooms. Is there anything special I should know about? What software would I need to play a DVD movie on my ThinkPad 600? Is the P-II 233 fast enough to do a passable job of decoding a DVD movie for viewing (I don't care if there is an occasional hiccup, and if I can avoid it, I'd prefer to avoid paying $ for a Margi card, since I expect to probably upgrade to a newer ThinkPad by the end of the year, which likely won't need the hardware decoder. So can I just buy a DVD drive on auction for the TP 600 and start watching movies, or is there anything else I need? Can I just use MS Media Player to watch the DVD movie, or will I need some other specific software? Suggestions? Many thanks, - Randy Whittle From cph Sun Jan 30 02:33:38 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA05010 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:33:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07078; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:29:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07004; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:29:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06975; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:28:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (128.174.5.45 -> ux5.cso.uiuc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:28:27 -0500 Received: from GeorgeNeurauter (london-3.slip.uiuc.edu [130.126.26.63]) by ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA02885; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 01:28:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000001bf6af3$10c7f400$3f1a7e82@GeorgeNeurauter> From: "George Neurauter" To: "Greg Langham" , References: Subject: Re: CDRW for TP600e Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:29:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Langham To: Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 10:02 AM Subject: CDRW for TP600e > I am looking for a good external CDRW for my ThinkPad 600e running Win 98. I > know I have three interface choices: parallel, USB, or SCSI. The parallel > option is out based on past experiences, so I'm looking at either USB or > SCSI. > > Has anyone had any experience with USB attached CDRW's? Do they make > coasters like the parallel port versions? > > If I go SCSI, can someone recommend a good SCSI PC Card and CDRW solution? I had bought one of the new Philips 4x4x6 USB CDRWs that was been backordered for a while and when I eventually got it it broke down after 2 weeks. I sent it back and after waiting another week or so (backordered again) I asked for a refund instead of a replacement. When it was working, I made a CD-R and CD-RW. The CD-R was fine, but the CD-RW had 0 KB files on it. I have heard people have had problems with them; the max throughput speed is 6x through USB. So, I just recently sprung for a HP M820e SCSI portable drive. It comes with a SCSI2 PC card and weighs less than a pound. You can also use it with your desktop with a SCSI card and cable. I'm waiting for it to come today, hopefully. BUY.COM has a good deal going for it w/ a 10-pack of media and cd labeler for $292. I bought mine from Altavista Shopping for $274 after a $50 gift certificate that they had. I think it's over now though. Still, $292 is pretty good for a SCSI drive that is made for laptops. George From cph Sun Jan 30 05:51:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA05365 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 05:51:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21272; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 05:47:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 05:46:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21173; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 05:46:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21159; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 05:46:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (216.145.8.233 -> ip-216.145.8.233.az.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 05:46:27 -0500 Received: from whistler.az.com (ip-216.145.8.254.az.com [216.145.8.254]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA04900 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:46:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Received: from MYHOSTNAME ([10.66.1.64]) by whistler.az.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA54555 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:47:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <200001301047.CAA54555@whistler.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Sun, 30 Jan 00 02:56:59 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FAQ for PCMCIA List-Unsubscribe: Are there any FAQ's out there for helping a poor soul install properly (for OS/2) a multifunction PCMCIA card? I've got a 3 com 3C562C lan +modem card that is being a real bugger to install on my ThinkPad 365XD. I've managed to get it work on the Windows 95 side, but it's having real fits with the OS/2 side. Any help, ideas, faq's, advice and pizza would be greatly appreciated. :) Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph Sun Jan 30 06:17:00 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA05401 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:17:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22653; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:12:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22578; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:12:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22565; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (24.25.227.33 -> hnlmail1.hawaii.rr.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:12:28 -0500 Received: from lava.net ([24.25.253.37]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 01:12:25 -1000 Message-ID: <38941CDD.C90ABC7D@lava.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 01:13:33 -1000 From: Keith Wong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Re: FAQ for PCMCIA References: <200001301047.CAA54555@whistler.az.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: --Hey there Robert, have you tried checking 3coms support site for their latest drivers? I know it may sound stupid, but hardware manufacturers nowadays re-write drivers on a monthly basis. New drivers usually do the trick for me on NT and 95/98, albeit I'm a wimp on OS/2. I'll pass your query onto the local OS/2 groups in Hawaii though. --Keith Honolulu, Hawaii LightSide wrote: > Are there any FAQ's out there for helping a poor soul install properly (for OS/2) a multifunction PCMCIA card? > > I've got a 3 com 3C562C lan +modem card that is being a real bugger to install on my ThinkPad 365XD. I've managed to get it work on the > Windows 95 side, but it's having real fits with the OS/2 side. > > Any help, ideas, faq's, advice and pizza would be greatly appreciated. :) > > Robert > > Robert Mears > Certified Key and Button Pusher > robertm@az.com > OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph Sun Jan 30 06:52:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA15209 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:52:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23703; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:47:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23624; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23611; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (216.145.8.233 -> ip-216.145.8.233.az.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:47:19 -0500 Received: from whistler.az.com (ip-216.145.8.254.az.com [216.145.8.254]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09550 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 03:47:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Received: from MYHOSTNAME ([10.66.1.64]) by whistler.az.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA56115 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 03:48:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <200001301148.DAA56115@whistler.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Sun, 30 Jan 00 03:58:09 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FAQ for PCMCIA List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 01:13:33 -1000, Keith Wong wrote: >--Hey there Robert, have you tried checking 3coms support site for their latest drivers? I know it may sound stupid, but hardware >manufacturers nowadays re-write drivers on a monthly basis. New drivers usually do the trick for me on NT and 95/98, albeit I'm a wimp on >OS/2. I'll pass your query onto the local OS/2 groups in Hawaii though. Hi Keith, Yeah, that was my first stop (and lots of jumps around the site). Not cuz it was the first stop in troubleshooting, but the original driver disk died! ACK! So I kinda had no choice. But according to 3 com, there are no FAQ's by them. There have been no rewrites on the drivers. I appreciate your forwarding my problem into Hawaii. :) Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph Sun Jan 30 08:26:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA15377 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:26:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26696; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:22:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:21:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26616; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:21:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26603; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:21:47 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.13.121]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000130132144.ULOO5516@701c> for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 13:21:44 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01bf6b24$fc477780$790d4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: FAQ for PCMCIA Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 07:21:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. I have a mulifunc card also. model 3cxem556bt, this thing can not be installed on a machine that was pre-loaded by IBM. the reason is it asks for the original install disk. I have a set of floppies. The CD drive I have will not install under win95 panasonic W sound because its sound card conflicts with the one in the TP. I called 3com, so far no answer as to a refund. I was told by 3com that it would work, so I dis not return it within 30 days to frys. I have had very good service from megahertz in the past, 3com, on the other hand, perhaps just the mulimalfunction cards, have been nothing but a pain. I have talked to several other people who say that they also have problems. It may be that the multi cards are wincards, that is to say the CPU is used to run the card, not unlike a winmodem. I am somewhat in luck however, I just have 1. USAA, on the other hand, got 30 of the things. The same problems there. They now have a requirement for purchase that 1 of whatever is that is bought is installed in a working machine before it is accepted. No more purchase based on company reputation. This is bad for 3com because there are cheaper modems out there that will pass this simple test, megahertz stuff has worked real well over the years though. From cph Sun Jan 30 08:54:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA15409 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:54:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27713; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:49:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27639; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:49:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27624; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (206.184.139.15 -> proxy4.ba.best.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:49:40 -0500 Received: from dgoldman (root@shell9.ba.best.com [206.184.139.140]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id FAA17255 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 05:49:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.1.20000130054625.00d3bbb0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dgoldman@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 05:48:48 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: FAQ for PCMCIA In-Reply-To: <38941CDD.C90ABC7D@lava.net> References: <200001301047.CAA54555@whistler.az.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I'll have to agree with Keith. I've installed the Xircom 10/100 + 56K Modem combo card on my TP 380z under both OS/2 Warp 4 and WindoWS NT Workstation without any problems. If you're having problems with the 3Com card, I'd check for newer drivers first. -- David Goldman At 03:13 AM 1/30/2000 , Keith Wong wrote: >--Hey there Robert, have you tried checking 3coms support site for their latest drivers? I know it may sound stupid, but hardware >manufacturers nowadays re-write drivers on a monthly basis. New drivers usually do the trick for me on NT and 95/98, albeit I'm a wimp on >OS/2. I'll pass your query onto the local OS/2 groups in Hawaii though. > > --Keith > Honolulu, Hawaii > >LightSide wrote: > > > Are there any FAQ's out there for helping a poor soul install properly (for OS/2) a multifunction PCMCIA card? > > > > I've got a 3 com 3C562C lan +modem card that is being a real bugger to install on my ThinkPad 365XD. I've managed to get it work on the > > Windows 95 side, but it's having real fits with the OS/2 side. > > > > Any help, ideas, faq's, advice and pizza would be greatly appreciated. :) > > > > Robert > > > > Robert Mears > > Certified Key and Button Pusher > > robertm@az.com > > OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph Sun Jan 30 09:48:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA15512 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:48:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29884; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:43:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29799; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:43:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29783; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (4.21.209.242 -> exch1.smh.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:43:32 -0500 Received: by EXCH1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:42:07 -0500 Message-ID: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1D69@EXCH1> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: "'Randal Whittle '" , "'TP List '" Subject: RE: Putting a DVD drive into a TP 600--How to Play? Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:42:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Hi Randy, I've got the PII/266 TP600 with 128mB RAM and (upgraded to) Win98. As you know it came with a CDROM (the DVD player came out in Fall, 1998). I got the "ultraslim" DVD about a year ago. IBM warned me it would "drop a lot of frames" without a hardware decoder so I bought one at the same time I ordered the player. By the time the player arrived I'd already had the Margi DVDtoGo card a month or so. The player came with software (DVDExpress). From my point of view it worked well(software decoding). If I'd scene the playback earlier, I wouldn't have bothered with the Margi card. About the biggest thing I noticed with the Margi card is better sound and a "prettier" vcr-like interface. Microsoft has a tiny program called "Wintop". If you load it it shows you a list of all your running programs and their CPU utilization. As I recall the Margi card uses the CPU at the 10-20 percent level. When you go with the software decoder it's 80-90 percent! Just make sure when you get the player, you get the DVDExpress program! There's a nice update to it on the IBM web site, but you need DVDExpress on the 600 to use it. Another nice thing about the Margi card is it works in Win2000. Regards, Neil -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle To: TP List Sent: 1/30/00 2:14 AM Subject: Putting a DVD drive into a TP 600--How to Play? Hi all, I've had my Thinkpad 600 for over 18 months now,and have been doing more and more travelling. I thought it might be worthwhile to get a DVD drive for it and bring along the occasional DVD movie to watch on a plane or even in hotel rooms. Is there anything special I should know about? What software would I need to play a DVD movie on my ThinkPad 600? Is the P-II 233 fast enough to do a passable job of decoding a DVD movie for viewing (I don't care if there is an occasional hiccup, and if I can avoid it, I'd prefer to avoid paying $ for a Margi card, since I expect to probably upgrade to a newer ThinkPad by the end of the year, which likely won't need the hardware decoder. So can I just buy a DVD drive on auction for the TP 600 and start watching movies, or is there anything else I need? Can I just use MS Media Player to watch the DVD movie, or will I need some other specific software? Suggestions? Many thanks, - Randy Whittle From cph Sun Jan 30 10:03:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA15557 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:03:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00674; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:58:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00601; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clinet.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00587; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clinet.fi (194.100.0.7 -> mail.clinet.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:58:53 -0500 Received: from TP560X (255-13.dyn.clinet.fi [194.100.255.13]) by mail.clinet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07836 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:58:41 +0200 Message-Id: <200001301458.QAA07836@mail.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:58:10 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <4.2.1.20000130054625.00d3bbb0@127.0.0.1> Subject: Re: FAQ for PCMCIA X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.06 c06 (Unregistered) List-Unsubscribe: The consensus (based on comp.os.os2.networking.*) seems to be that 3Com no longer supports OS/2 on its latest (10/100) PCMCIA-adapters. It's a pity because the older cards (I use a bunch of them) have had excellent OS/2 support in the past. So it looks like you should move to Xircom instead. HTH, Dominique On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 at 05:48 AM you, David Goldman , said: >I'll have to agree with Keith. I've installed the Xircom 10/100 + 56K >Modem combo card on my TP 380z under both OS/2 Warp 4 and WindoWS NT >Workstation without any problems. If you're having problems with the 3Com >card, I'd check for newer drivers first. From cph Sun Jan 30 11:14:12 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA15958 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:14:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03373; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:08:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03229; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:08:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from CIJECZCIGG0ZK6 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03208; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from CIJECZCIGG0ZK6 (12.79.57.137 -> 137.morristown-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:08:14 -0500 Message-ID: <001501bf6b3b$bb64ef60$89394f0c@CIJECZCIGG0ZK6> From: "Donald Mak" To: "TP List" , "Randal Whittle" References: <4.2.0.58.20000129230758.00aece00@pop3.iceka1.com> Subject: Re: Putting a DVD drive into a TP 600--How to Play? Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:04:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: I remember reading some time back that a minimum of a PII 300 was needed for software only playback. On my 770ED PII 266 software only is slightly choppy but the audio is out of sync constantly. Donald Mak ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randal Whittle" To: "TP List" Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 2:14 AM Subject: Putting a DVD drive into a TP 600--How to Play? > Hi all, > > I've had my Thinkpad 600 for over 18 months now,and have been doing more > and more travelling. I thought it might be worthwhile to get a DVD drive > for it and bring along the occasional DVD movie to watch on a plane or even > in hotel rooms. > > Is there anything special I should know about? What software would I need > to play a DVD movie on my ThinkPad 600? Is the P-II 233 fast enough to do > a passable job of decoding a DVD movie for viewing (I don't care if there > is an occasional hiccup, and if I can avoid it, I'd prefer to avoid paying > $ for a Margi card, since I expect to probably upgrade to a newer ThinkPad > by the end of the year, which likely won't need the hardware decoder. > > So can I just buy a DVD drive on auction for the TP 600 and start watching > movies, or is there anything else I need? Can I just use MS Media Player > to watch the DVD movie, or will I need some other specific > software? Suggestions? > > Many thanks, > - Randy Whittle > From cph Sun Jan 30 11:36:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA16074 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:36:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04463; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:32:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:31:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04385; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:31:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04288; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:28:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:28:12 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-153.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.153]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA20937 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:28:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000130113126.00811a20@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:31:26 -0800 To: TP List From: Mark Bell Subject: TP 600x/390x 128meg module (surplus) In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000129230758.00aece00@pop3.iceka1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have one new 128meg module left over. It is a KTM-390x/128mb module. It will work in the 600x/390x series machine (100mhz part for newer notebooks). These retail for $260+ and generally cost $50-60 more than comparable TP 770 66mhz 128meg parts. I'll swap it straight for a 128meg module for the TP 770/600 series, or sell it for $200.00 shipped. Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Sun Jan 30 11:36:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA16078 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:36:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04591; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:32:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04500; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04485; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:32:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246 -> smtp10.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:32:17 -0500 Received: from user-38ld0qc.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38ld0qc.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.131.76]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA23439 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:32:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001301632.LAA23439@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:30:49 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <200001301047.CAA54555@whistler.az.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DVD - OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: OS/2 Warp and DVD news: DVD support available, but only for servers? http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm Updated 01/28/00 UDF File System The UDF (Universal Disk Format) file system is a widely-accepted standard that provides high-capacity data storage and retrieval capability for DVD media as well as compatibility with existing CD-ROM media. OS/2 Warp Server for e-business presents this new support through common and consistent interfaces such as CHKDSK, FORMAT, and the OS/2 file I/O APIs. From cph Sun Jan 30 12:27:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA16220 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:27:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07133; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:23:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:23:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07038; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:23:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07025; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:23:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.40 -> mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:23:03 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.16.148]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000130172300.FCLS27376@compaq>; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:23:00 +0000 Message-ID: <38947358.1D06@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:22:32 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randal Whittle CC: TP List Subject: Re: Putting a DVD drive into a TP 600--How to Play? References: <4.2.0.58.20000129230758.00aece00@pop3.iceka1.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: A P233 is nowhere near fast enough to decode DVD in software. I sell Margi cards for $150 to list members. Some faster laptops will play DVD in software, but hardware is ALWAYS better. But don't even bother to buy a drive for this machine unless you intend to buy a deocder, a 233 won't even come close. Randal Whittle wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've had my Thinkpad 600 for over 18 months now,and have been doing more > and more travelling. I thought it might be worthwhile to get a DVD drive > for it and bring along the occasional DVD movie to watch on a plane or even > in hotel rooms. > > Is there anything special I should know about? What software would I need > to play a DVD movie on my ThinkPad 600? Is the P-II 233 fast enough to do > a passable job of decoding a DVD movie for viewing (I don't care if there > is an occasional hiccup, and if I can avoid it, I'd prefer to avoid paying > $ for a Margi card, since I expect to probably upgrade to a newer ThinkPad > by the end of the year, which likely won't need the hardware decoder. > > So can I just buy a DVD drive on auction for the TP 600 and start watching > movies, or is there anything else I need? Can I just use MS Media Player > to watch the DVD movie, or will I need some other specific > software? Suggestions? > > Many thanks, > - Randy Whittle From cph Sun Jan 30 12:45:38 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA16335 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:45:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08218; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:41:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:41:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08135; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:41:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08121; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:40:55 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax24.vramp.net [198.138.8.87]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA06672; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:40:40 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: , "Randal Whittle" Cc: "TP List" Subject: RE: Putting a DVD drive into a TP 600--How to Play? Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:40:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <38947358.1D06@worldnet.att.net> List-Unsubscribe: Bruce Markowitz [mailto:scosgt@worldnet.att.net] wrote: > A P233 is nowhere near fast enough to decode DVD in software. I sell > Margi cards for $150 to list members. Some faster laptops will play DVD > in software, but hardware is ALWAYS better. But don't even bother to buy > a drive for this machine unless you intend to buy a deocder, a 233 won't > even come close. The man knows whereof he speaks Randy. And from personal experience the PII 300 in my newest 600 is marginal, at best, playing DVDs in software. Lot's of dropped frames and the sound is almost constantly out of synch. Glad I'm using a borrowed drive. My wife is in line to get her 233 TP600 upgraded to a 600X PIII 500 solely in order to play DVDs as part of her new duties as an Asst. Director in charge of training. Of course, with the recent merger, that may be put on hold. Regards, James From cph Sun Jan 30 15:15:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA16829 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:15:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00222; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:11:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:10:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00043; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:10:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00028; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:10:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.61 -> smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:10:30 -0500 Received: from 216-164-130-4.s512.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.130.4] helo=desktop) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12F0g0-0002EF-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:10:28 -0500 Message-ID: <009201bf6b5e$11651bc0$0482a4d8@desktop> From: "Donald Malcolm MacQueen" To: Subject: 2 questions Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:10:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: 1) Can I add 64 meg to my 560, which would bring total Ram to 72? 2) Is this list archived? I recall this question (#1) being asked and answered (something along the lines of yes, but ...), but I can't remember the answer. If I knew where the archive was, I would look it up myself. Thanks. Donald ---------------------------------------- Donald M. MacQueen Registered Smalltalk Bigot ---------------------------------------- I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk! ---------------------------------------- From cph Sun Jan 30 16:37:33 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA17050 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:37:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04493; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:31:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04291; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwcst268.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04275; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwcst268.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.23.13 -> wwcst268.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:31:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 4490 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Jan 2000 21:31:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20000130213126.4489.qmail@nwcst268.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.13 by wwcst268 for [63.74.90.174] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Sun Jan 30 21:31:26 GMT 2000 Date: 30 Jan 00 16:31:26 EST From: Stephen Remenyi To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP-701c - AC Adapter and new plug X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id QAA17051 I currently have an AC adapter for my TP-701c that has a FRU PN of 85G6689. It has a removeable 2-pin (barrel) plug. I was wondering where I can obtain a 4-pin (refers to a trapazoid shaped connector with 4 holes in it) plug so I can also use it with a 755c. Thanks, Steve ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Sun Jan 30 18:03:04 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA17291 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:03:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08583; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:58:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:56:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08346; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:56:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08333; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (166.84.0.212 -> mail1.panix.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:56:30 -0500 Received: from mailhost.panix.com (broccole.dialup.access.net [166.84.249.114]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B1A0930F79 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:56:27 -0500 (EST) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer for OS/2 (Green Edition Ver 3.0) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:37:27 EST From: Michael Cole Reply-To: Michael Cole Subject: 3C562C under OS2 Message-Id: <20000130225627.B1A0930F79@mail1.panix.com> List-Unsubscribe: Hi Robert, I've got a multifunction 3C562D worrking fine on a 701c and a 560e. This is under Warp 4. I know that I had some problem until I got an updated driver (from 3Com as I recall). According to the NIF, I'm running v 2.01 of "3Com EtherLink III LAN+Modem PC card of OS2 v1.5 - Card Services" [7-7-95] and a driver (ELPC3X.OS2) (32,479) from 11-21-96. Are you having problems with the PCMCIA card director seeing the beast? or is the problem getting the MPTS set-up? (and are you sure the comm ports are configured correctly?) Anyhow, let me know where you are at and I'll be happy to make some guesses and pass along relevant slices of my config.sys. Regards, Michael Cole "Do you Squeak?" Michael Cole Griffon Associates cole@griffoninc.com cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From cph Sun Jan 30 18:09:38 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA17315 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:09:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09112; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:05:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:04:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09023; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09008; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (4.21.209.242 -> exch1.smh.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:04:57 -0500 Received: by EXCH1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:03:31 -0500 Message-ID: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1D6B@EXCH1> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: "'Bruce Markowitz '" , "'Randal Whittle '" Cc: "'TP List '" Subject: RE: Putting a DVD drive into a TP 600--How to Play? Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:03:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Well, Bruce might be right about a PII/233. But, I'm watching "Arlington Road" (right now) with software decoding(DVDExpress v.4) on my 600 (PII/266). It's indistinguishable from decoding with my Margi card as long as I don't try to run other apps. YMMV Neil PS I agree with the comment on the 770ED (which I have). Software decoding is very jerky. You need the DEVA card. Maybe it has something to do with the Trident chipset in the 770. -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Markowitz To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP List Sent: 1/30/00 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Putting a DVD drive into a TP 600--How to Play? A P233 is nowhere near fast enough to decode DVD in software. I sell Margi cards for $150 to list members. Some faster laptops will play DVD in software, but hardware is ALWAYS better. But don't even bother to buy a drive for this machine unless you intend to buy a deocder, a 233 won't even come close. Randal Whittle wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've had my Thinkpad 600 for over 18 months now,and have been doing more > and more travelling. I thought it might be worthwhile to get a DVD drive > for it and bring along the occasional DVD movie to watch on a plane or even > in hotel rooms. > > Is there anything special I should know about? What software would I need > to play a DVD movie on my ThinkPad 600? Is the P-II 233 fast enough to do > a passable job of decoding a DVD movie for viewing (I don't care if there > is an occasional hiccup, and if I can avoid it, I'd prefer to avoid paying > $ for a Margi card, since I expect to probably upgrade to a newer ThinkPad > by the end of the year, which likely won't need the hardware decoder. > > So can I just buy a DVD drive on auction for the TP 600 and start watching > movies, or is there anything else I need? Can I just use MS Media Player > to watch the DVD movie, or will I need some other specific > software? Suggestions? > > Many thanks, > - Randy Whittle From cph Sun Jan 30 20:34:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA17745 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:34:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14810; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:29:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:28:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14696; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:28:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14651; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:27:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (12.79.30.50 -> 50.morristown-21-22rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:27:51 -0500 Message-ID: <001501bf6b8a$64026280$321e4f0c@cijeczcig1x68u> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" , "'Bruce Markowitz '" , "'Randal Whittle '" Cc: "'TP List '" References: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1D6B@EXCH1> Subject: Re: Putting a DVD drive into a TP 600--How to Play? Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:27:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: Could very well be. The newer trident chips have DVD decoding built in, as in the 770Z and X. This brings up a very good point for software only in newer models. Not only will a high end PII and the new PIII have the capacity to run DVD very well using only a software solution but the newer video chipsets have added capabilities to address these issues as well. Donald Mak ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Cornelius Halvey To: 'Bruce Markowitz ' ; 'Randal Whittle ' Cc: 'TP List ' Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 6:03 PM Subject: RE: Putting a DVD drive into a TP 600--How to Play? > Well, > > Bruce might be right about a PII/233. But, I'm watching "Arlington Road" > (right now) with software decoding(DVDExpress v.4) on my 600 (PII/266). > It's indistinguishable from decoding with my Margi card as long as I don't > try to run other apps. > > YMMV > > Neil > > PS I agree with the comment on the 770ED (which I have). Software decoding > is very jerky. You need the DEVA card. Maybe it has something to do with > the Trident chipset in the 770. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Markowitz > To: Randal Whittle > Cc: TP List > Sent: 1/30/00 12:22 PM > Subject: Re: Putting a DVD drive into a TP 600--How to Play? > > A P233 is nowhere near fast enough to decode DVD in software. I sell > Margi cards for $150 to list members. Some faster laptops will play DVD > in software, but hardware is ALWAYS better. But don't even bother to buy > a drive for this machine unless you intend to buy a deocder, a 233 won't > even come close. > > Randal Whittle wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I've had my Thinkpad 600 for over 18 months now,and have been > doing more > > and more travelling. I thought it might be worthwhile to get a DVD > drive > > for it and bring along the occasional DVD movie to watch on a plane or > even > > in hotel rooms. > > > > Is there anything special I should know about? What software > would I need > > to play a DVD movie on my ThinkPad 600? Is the P-II 233 fast enough > to do > > a passable job of decoding a DVD movie for viewing (I don't care if > there > > is an occasional hiccup, and if I can avoid it, I'd prefer to avoid > paying > > $ for a Margi card, since I expect to probably upgrade to a newer > ThinkPad > > by the end of the year, which likely won't need the hardware decoder. > > > > So can I just buy a DVD drive on auction for the TP 600 and > start watching > > movies, or is there anything else I need? Can I just use MS Media > Player > > to watch the DVD movie, or will I need some other specific > > software? Suggestions? > > > > Many thanks, > > - Randy Whittle > From cph Sun Jan 30 20:45:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA17841 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:45:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15640; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:41:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:41:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15565; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:41:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15552; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:40:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.26 -> cpimssmtpu01.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:40:59 -0500 Received: from default - 63.22.251.125 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:40:58 -0800 Message-ID: <000d01bf6b8b$01082380$7dfb163f@default> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Think" Subject: 560 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:32:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Do they make a docking station for the 560? Brad From cph Sun Jan 30 21:00:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA17893 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:00:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16671; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:55:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:55:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16594; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16581; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.40 -> mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:55:13 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.13.185]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000131015511.MNKO27376@701c> for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:55:11 +0000 Message-ID: <002301bf6b8e$3c213300$b90d4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: 560 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:55:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. Yes there is a docking station for the 560. It is the wierdest setup of all. What one does is slide this adaptor in the bottom of the laptop. Then the laptop is slid into the docking station. The 701C/CS' also require an adaptor, however it is not as complicated. From cph Sun Jan 30 22:59:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA18216 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:59:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22683; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:54:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:53:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22451; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from CIJECZCIGG0ZK6 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22436; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:53:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from CIJECZCIGG0ZK6 (12.79.28.187 -> 187.morristown-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:53:05 -0500 Message-ID: <000801bf6b9e$ad9dada0$bb1c4f0c@CIJECZCIGG0ZK6> From: "Donald Mak" To: Subject: Memory prices Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:53:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF6B74.C2C19C70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF6B74.C2C19C70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How's the outlook for memory prices? Are we going to return to the = pre-December prices soon?=20 Win2K just doesn't cut it on 64megs. The best I've found for a 64M = module is $120. Donald Mak ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF6B74.C2C19C70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Win2K just doesn't cut it on 64megs. = The best I've=20 found for a 64M module is $120.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF6B74.C2C19C70-- From cph Sun Jan 30 23:03:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA18238 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:03:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23154; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:59:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:57:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22937; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from elpaso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22923; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from elpaso.net (208.169.36.11 -> elpaso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:57:40 -0500 Received: from elpaso.net (elpaso-ppp55.elpaso.net [208.169.36.96]) by elpaso.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA12499 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:58:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <38950643.4FC4C72A@elpaso.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:49:24 -0600 From: Schaefer Reply-To: schaefer@elpaso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 730T Memory Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, what is the maximum amount of ram that can be put into a 730T. I have heard 20 megs is what the specs say, but someone said that a 32 meg card from another model of thinkpads works in it. Has anyone gone past 20 megs? Thanks, Mike ------------_________\/________--------------- 1981 Red DeLorean DMC-12 #1118 28k Miles, 5-speed, Black Leather, Heaven. "Be careful what you say, Be very careful what you don't say..." -----------__________/\________--------------- From cph Sun Jan 30 23:07:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA18259 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:07:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23855; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:02:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:01:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23449; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23360; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:00:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:00:36 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-291.gate.net [199.227.131.100]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA18992; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:00:02 -0500 Message-ID: <389508EC.3321646E@gate.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:00:44 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donald Malcolm MacQueen CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2 questions References: <009201bf6b5e$11651bc0$0482a4d8@desktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Yes, $159 (apricorn) or less.. and SOME 560's (90U, 91U, B0U, B1U) can take a 128meg, but you don't want to know how much it is..! :-) Donald Malcolm MacQueen wrote: > 1) Can I add 64 meg to my 560, > which would bring total Ram to 72? > > 2) Is this list archived? I recall this > question (#1) being asked and answered > (something along the lines of yes, but ...), > but I can't remember the answer. > If I knew where the archive was, I would > look it up myself. > > Thanks. > > Donald > ---------------------------------------- > Donald M. MacQueen > Registered Smalltalk Bigot > ---------------------------------------- > I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk! > ---------------------------------------- -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sun Jan 30 23:08:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA18264 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:08:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23952; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:02:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23604; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:02:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23542; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:01:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:01:57 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-291.gate.net [199.227.131.100]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA72626; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:01:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3895093A.E491ECC2@gate.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:02:02 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donald Mak CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Memory prices References: <000801bf6b9e$ad9dada0$bb1c4f0c@CIJECZCIGG0ZK6> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3194ED56E35108CE4F8D7C8B" List-Unsubscribe: --------------3194ED56E35108CE4F8D7C8B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Memory prices have been settling down recently.. $120 for 64meg is not so bad, depending upon which machine its for.. Donald Mak wrote: > How's the outlook for memory prices? Are we going to return to the > pre-Decemberprices soon? Win2K just doesn't cut it on 64megs. The best > I've found for a 64M module is $120. Donald Mak -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net --------------3194ED56E35108CE4F8D7C8B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Memory prices have been settling down recently..
$120 for 64meg is not so bad, depending upon which machine its for..

Donald Mak wrote:

How's the outlook for memory prices? Are we going to return to the pre-Decemberprices soon? Win2K just doesn't cut it on 64megs. The best I've found for a 64M module is $120. Donald Mak

--
Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net
  --------------3194ED56E35108CE4F8D7C8B-- From cph Sun Jan 30 23:11:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA18281 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:11:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24528; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:07:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:05:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24245; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:05:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24227; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:05:44 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-291.gate.net [199.227.131.100]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA12082; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:05:20 -0500 Message-ID: <38950A2A.FAC97C1C@gate.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:06:02 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Remenyi CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP-701c - AC Adapter and new plug References: <20000130213126.4489.qmail@nwcst268.netaddress.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: IBM used to supply both types of plugs when they sold JUST that particular AC adapter.. it did not work out too well, since the plug protruded way too far and was prone to "working" and making poorer and poorer contact, building up heat and thus the spring contacts lost contact.. them more heat, less contact, viscous cycle.. i have not seen a trapezoid insert for that AC adapter for some time.. Stephen Remenyi wrote: > I currently have an AC adapter for my TP-701c that has a FRU PN of 85G6689. It > has a removeable 2-pin (barrel) plug. I was wondering where I can obtain a > 4-pin (refers to a trapazoid shaped connector with 4 holes in it) plug so I > can also use it with a 755c. > > Thanks, > > Steve > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sun Jan 30 23:13:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA18290 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:13:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24845; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:09:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:07:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24557; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:07:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24544; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (216.145.8.233 -> ip-216.145.8.233.az.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:07:33 -0500 Received: from whistler.az.com (ip-216.145.8.254.az.com [216.145.8.254]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07695 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:07:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Received: from MYHOSTNAME ([10.66.25.122]) by whistler.az.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA81397 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:08:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <200001310408.UAA81397@whistler.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Sun, 30 Jan 00 20:18:23 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 3C562C under OS2 List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:37:27 EST, Michael Cole wrote: >Hi Robert, >I know that I had some problem until I got an >updated driver (from 3Com as I recall). According >to the NIF, I'm running v 2.01 of "3Com EtherLink >III LAN+Modem PC card of OS2 v1.5 - Card >Services" [7-7-95] and a driver (ELPC3X.OS2) >(32,479) from 11-21-96. Hmmmmm I don't have that magical driver. =( > >Are you having problems with the PCMCIA card >director seeing the beast? or is the problem >getting the MPTS set-up? (and are you sure the >comm ports are configured correctly?) The card director sees it. But when I go into DOIP, it gets down to where it would show the initialization string and then my whole script is like tacked on the end. No dialing or anything. Yet, throw it over to the Windows side.... POOF! It works under windows. And according to 3 com, that's good enough for them. If I have to go out and fork out dollars for another card, I highly doubt it will be a 3 com. >Anyhow, let me know where you are at and I'll be >happy to make some guesses and pass along >relevant slices of my config.sys. Well...heh. I did a real *DUMB* thing. I updated the card director disk of mine (stupid! stupid! stupid!) and I didn't keep a copy of it. Why? All other disks from IBM's device matrix never had a problem. Why should I tie up another disk? (Why not I ask now. It's only $0.75!!). And now the new version 4.12 dies on copying a file. I can unpack each file by hand, but not knowing what files go where and all the config.sys entrys are... I'm stuck. Yes, someone can put me out to pasture now... =( Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph Sun Jan 30 23:18:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA18302 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:18:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25503; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:13:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:11:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25235; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:11:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25221; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:11:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:11:52 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-291.gate.net [199.227.131.100]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA109682; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:11:24 -0500 Message-ID: <38950B96.B48B95C8@gate.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:12:06 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: schaefer@elpaso.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 730T Memory Question References: <38950643.4FC4C72A@elpaso.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: 40meg is max, add one 32meg card.. this is non parity memory.. most 755CD, CE, 750, et al used parity memory... you can try a parity memory card in the 730, but if you do, you should get into easy setup and disable parity checking if that option is presented there.. Schaefer wrote: > Hi, what is the maximum amount of ram that can be put into a 730T. I > have heard 20 megs is what the specs say, but someone said that a 32 meg > card from another model of thinkpads works in it. Has anyone gone past > 20 megs? > Thanks, > Mike > ------------_________\/________--------------- > > 1981 Red DeLorean DMC-12 > #1118 28k Miles, 5-speed, Black Leather, Heaven. > > "Be careful what you say, > Be very careful what you don't say..." > > -----------__________/\________--------------- -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sun Jan 30 23:20:24 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA18333 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:20:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25837; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:15:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:14:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25626; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25613; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:14:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (208.154.252.26 -> mail.iso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:14:28 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial28.auto-net.com [208.154.252.77]) by mail.iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA66749; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:09:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <38950AF1.F90CD329@iso.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:09:22 -0600 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: schaefer@elpaso.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 730T Memory Question References: <38950643.4FC4C72A@elpaso.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I just tried a 32 meg parity memory card from a 755C and it didn't work. It counted the memory at boot-up but stopped booting at that point. I could get into setup but the memory test just froze. The card worked well back in the 755C and a 16 meg non-parity card works well in the 730T. So maybe a 32 meg non-parity card would work. Bill Schaefer wrote: > Hi, what is the maximum amount of ram that can be put into a 730T. I > have heard 20 megs is what the specs say, but someone said that a 32 meg > card from another model of thinkpads works in it. Has anyone gone past > 20 megs? > Thanks, > Mike > ------------_________\/________--------------- > > 1981 Red DeLorean DMC-12 > #1118 28k Miles, 5-speed, Black Leather, Heaven. > > "Be careful what you say, > Be very careful what you don't say..." > > -----------__________/\________--------------- From cph Sun Jan 30 23:45:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA18422 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:45:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27674; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:41:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:39:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27455; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:39:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27441; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:39:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (208.154.252.26 -> mail.iso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:39:31 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial28.auto-net.com [208.154.252.77]) by mail.iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA67305; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:34:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <389510B3.EDC65DA6@iso.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:33:55 -0600 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: penzance@gate.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 730T Memory Question References: <38950643.4FC4C72A@elpaso.net> <38950B96.B48B95C8@gate.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I just checked the 730T's setup and there is no memory configuation - just a memory test. So it appears the non-parity card would be necessary. And I believe from reading the 730T's specs that it would have to be a 5 volt card. Bill Bill Morrow wrote: > 40meg is max, add one 32meg card.. > this is non parity memory.. > most 755CD, CE, 750, et al used parity memory... > you can try a parity memory card in the 730, but if you do, you should get > into easy setup and disable parity checking if that option is presented > there.. > > Schaefer wrote: > > > Hi, what is the maximum amount of ram that can be put into a 730T. I > > have heard 20 megs is what the specs say, but someone said that a 32 meg > > card from another model of thinkpads works in it. Has anyone gone past > > 20 megs? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > ------------_________\/________--------------- > > > > 1981 Red DeLorean DMC-12 > > #1118 28k Miles, 5-speed, Black Leather, Heaven. > > > > "Be careful what you say, > > Be very careful what you don't say..." > > > > -----------__________/\________--------------- > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Jan 31 00:08:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA18518 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:08:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29267; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:01:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29090; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:01:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29077; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:01:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:01:31 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-291.gate.net [199.227.131.100]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA58844; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:01:21 -0500 Message-ID: <38951739.36F66CE5@gate.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:01:45 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wvantuyl@iso.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 730T Memory Question References: <38950643.4FC4C72A@elpaso.net> <38950B96.B48B95C8@gate.net> <389510B3.EDC65DA6@iso.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: AND, i just checked, and this machine wants a 92G7235 which is a parity memory card.. (sorry, i have been selling the non-parity cards for 360's) SO, look for a used memory card from a 755series or a 750 series.. if you can't find one, apricorn still makes these, cost is about $169... William Van Tuyl wrote: > I just checked the 730T's setup and there is no memory configuation - just a > memory test. So it appears the non-parity card would be necessary. And I > believe from reading the 730T's specs that it would have to be a 5 volt card. > > Bill > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > 40meg is max, add one 32meg card.. > > this is non parity memory.. > > most 755CD, CE, 750, et al used parity memory... > > you can try a parity memory card in the 730, but if you do, you should get > > into easy setup and disable parity checking if that option is presented > > there.. > > > > Schaefer wrote: > > > > > Hi, what is the maximum amount of ram that can be put into a 730T. I > > > have heard 20 megs is what the specs say, but someone said that a 32 meg > > > card from another model of thinkpads works in it. Has anyone gone past > > > 20 megs? > > > Thanks, > > > Mike > > > ------------_________\/________--------------- > > > > > > 1981 Red DeLorean DMC-12 > > > #1118 28k Miles, 5-speed, Black Leather, Heaven. > > > > > > "Be careful what you say, > > > Be very careful what you don't say..." > > > > > > -----------__________/\________--------------- > > > > -- > > Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Jan 31 02:05:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA18825 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 02:05:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04016; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 02:01:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:59:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03833; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:59:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.sivco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03819; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:59:18 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail.sivco.com (209.91.123.78 -> h-209-91-123-78.gen.cadvision.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:59:19 -0500 Subject: Re: Memory prices To: "Donald Mak" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.1a August 17, 1999 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:59:05 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on tigger/Sivco(Release 5.0.1a|August 17, 1999) at 01/30/2000 11:58:48 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id CAA18826 Pre December? I'd like to see the September prices. And it will not go down until I buy some in high prices. Geza Szivos mailto:Geza.Szivos@SIVCO.com System Analyst/eDBA Certified VisualAge for C++ Object Oriented Developer, Certified WebSphere, DB2 and VisualAge Java Associate Developer, VisualWarehouse Specialist, Certified IBM OS/2 Engineer, Certified Warp Server Engineer SIVCO Inc. «Calgary, AB» «Buffalo, NY» «Olympia, WA» Visit our web page http://www.sivco.com Head office: 118 Arbour Summit Close NW Calgary, Alberta Canada T3G 3W2 Toll Free Call: (877) 700-2600 Toll Free Fax: (877) 547-4741 In Calgary call (403) 208-2600 Cellular (360) 481-2828 "Donald Mak" t> cc: Subject: Memory prices 01/30/00 08:53 PM How's the outlook for memory prices? Are we going to return to the pre-December prices soon? Win2K just doesn't cut it on 64megs. The best I've found for a 64M module is $120. Donald Mak From cph Mon Jan 31 07:43:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA19765 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:43:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25406; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:35:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25063; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25043; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:35:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (206.31.56.7 -> main.ismi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:35:12 -0500 Received: from denhall (hi9-169.ismi.net [207.51.181.54]) by main.ismi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id HAA18045; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:35:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004e01bf6bf0$a3bda0e0$36b533cf@denhall> From: "Denis Hall" To: Cc: Subject: Re: 730T Memory Question--32mb cards available Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:39:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: I have a couple of parity, and also a couple non-parity 32mb DRAM cards for the 755 series units if you have need...drop me an email if interested... Have a Great Day, Denis Hall, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow To: wvantuyl@iso.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:03 PM Subject: Re: 730T Memory Question >AND, i just checked, and this machine wants a 92G7235 which is a parity memory >card.. >(sorry, i have been selling the non-parity cards for 360's) > >SO, look for a used memory card from a 755series or a 750 series.. > >if you can't find one, apricorn still makes these, cost is about $169... > >William Van Tuyl wrote: > >> I just checked the 730T's setup and there is no memory configuation - just a >> memory test. So it appears the non-parity card would be necessary. And I >> believe from reading the 730T's specs that it would have to be a 5 volt card. >> >> Bill >> >> Bill Morrow wrote: >> >> > 40meg is max, add one 32meg card.. >> > this is non parity memory.. >> > most 755CD, CE, 750, et al used parity memory... >> > you can try a parity memory card in the 730, but if you do, you should get >> > into easy setup and disable parity checking if that option is presented >> > there.. >> > >> > Schaefer wrote: >> > >> > > Hi, what is the maximum amount of ram that can be put into a 730T. I >> > > have heard 20 megs is what the specs say, but someone said that a 32 meg >> > > card from another model of thinkpads works in it. Has anyone gone past >> > > 20 megs? >> > > Thanks, >> > > Mike >> > > ------------_________\/________--------------- >> > > >> > > 1981 Red DeLorean DMC-12 >> > > #1118 28k Miles, 5-speed, Black Leather, Heaven. >> > > >> > > "Be careful what you say, >> > > Be very careful what you don't say..." >> > > >> > > -----------__________/\________--------------- >> > >> > -- >> > Happy trails... >> > >> > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) >> > WEB page http://thinkpads.com >> > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net > >-- >Happy trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net > > > From cph Mon Jan 31 09:58:59 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA20333 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:58:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06283; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:56:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06146; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:56:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06124; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:56:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (132.187.1.7 -> wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:56:43 -0500 Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.2.12]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8/uniwue-MM-1.0) with ESMTP id PAA17707 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:56:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 31 Jan 00 15:56:41 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.44); 31 Jan 00 15:56:25 +0200 Received: from mail.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.92) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 31 Jan 00 15:56:19 +0200 Received: from babylon5 (babylon5.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.2] ) by mail.stelarcom.de (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:40:26 -0100 Message-Id: <200001310940.2636244.6@mail.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:40:24 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Alexander Wagner" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.1999 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <20000130225627.B1A0930F79@mail1.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 3C562C under OS2 List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:37:27 EST, Michael Cole wrote: Hi! Just as I didn't got the original message what is quoted here and what is new??? (Michael maybe you should give a quoting char to PostRoad.) >I've got a multifunction 3C562D worrking fine on >a 701c and a 560e. This is under Warp 4. > >I know that I had some problem until I got an >updated driver (from 3Com as I recall). According >to the NIF, I'm running v 2.01 of "3Com EtherLink >III LAN+Modem PC card of OS2 v1.5 - Card >Services" [7-7-95] and a driver (ELPC3X.OS2) >(32,479) from 11-21-96. > >Are you having problems with the PCMCIA card >director seeing the beast? or is the problem >getting the MPTS set-up? (and are you sure the >comm ports are configured correctly?) > >Anyhow, let me know where you are at and I'll be >happy to make some guesses and pass along >relevant slices of my config.sys. To the problem. I experienced some trouble using Modemcards on some types of thinkpads. Not a problem with the modemcard but with the ressources. My brothers 385 uses a normal cardmodem but to get it working I need to switch off IrDA or COM as neither the card nor the ThinkPad likes to use e.g. IRQ15 for IrDA or modem. I'm only able to assign IrDA to COM1 or COM2 and so the COM-port. Now modem wants to be COM1 or COM2 as well. :-( Switch one off and it works fine. On my 760 I can use internal MWavemodem (no big diffrence to the PCMCIA-version) but to use also IrDA and COM I need to assign IrDA to IRQ15. This works on the 760 not on the 385. Best way to see if every coms are assigned correctly is to use SIO which dispalys it on startup. Also you need to add some parameters (dev,irq,port) to the call to SIO.SYS (and also COM.SYS) in your config.sys. Using the LAN-Card together with that all could be a bit tricky as you'll run into some trouble with IRQ's as well. Don't know who invented only 15 of them, but that was a bad move in history. 150 would have been better ;) In my setup I use COM1 for serial with normal settings, COM2 for MWave with normal port settings (this would be your PCMCIA modem) COM3 with IRQ 15 for IrDA and assing the ethernet to IRQ 9. If this is possible on your machine you may want to give it a try. Some lines form my config.sys: REM ---------- IRDA -> COM3: DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\IRDD.SYS 3E8 15 REM ---------- MWave Modem DEVICE=d:\MWAVEOS2\BIN\mwbd0400.sys BUS=1150000 REM ---------- Serials DEVICE=D:\SIO\SIO.SYS (COM1,3F8,4) (COM2,2F8,3) (COM3,3E8,15) DEVICE=D:\SIO\VSIO.SYS Note also the order of these statements. AFAIK IrDA _must_ be the first. For check out everything is working I'd use SIO, you can then change back to COM.SYS if you want later on (parameters are the same). Concerning Bug&Pray on PCMCIA you can also assign a specific IRQ to the ethernet. Normally you don't need that as 3COM's Bug&Pray works pritty well. But in case of difficult setups you may want to do it anyway. To do this use your favourite Texteditor (vim ;) and have a look into PROTOCOL.INI (\IBMCOM). You need to add it manually as AFAIK 3COM doesn't provide that feature by default. Look for a line like the following: Bindings = ETHOS2AT_nif It tells you the name your ethernet device uses for configuration. Here: ETHOS2AT_nif. Now you can look for the section defining that adaptor: [ETHOS2AT_nif] IOBase = 0x280 DriverName = SMC8000$ Well here you see parameters for that card. In this case I use a SMC8000 (Elite Ultra) it's the setup of my workstation. Note the parameter IOBase = 0x280 it's use to tell the driver: Search at address 280 (hex) for the card. You could also add a statement specifying the IRQ to use. Add something like INTERRUPT = 9 to use IRQ 9. BTW: I know that it's not the normal style of OS/2 to edit protocol.ini, as one normally uses MPTS for that stuff. But in case of problems _we_ have an ini on OS/2 and we can use that chance to get things working ;) The advantages of running a real OS... Anyway: Don't panic! If you do this things it is a good idea to keep a copy of your original files. (Well a backup is allways a good idea ;) -- CU/2 (( In the beginning was The Word Alexander Wagner )) and The Word was Content-type: text/plain Team OS/2 Franken (( _________________________________________________________________________ -=[ Team OS/2 Germany #294 ]=- Please use only A.Wagner@TeamOS2.de or A.Wagner@Bigfoot.de for replies, even if some other addresses may appear. Thanks! --> Get my PGP-key with Subject: Request for PGP-Keys From cph Mon Jan 31 13:05:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA21701 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:05:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22741; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:03:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:02:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22516; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:02:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mhro1.mayo.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22503; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:02:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mhro1.mayo.edu (129.176.100.75 -> mhro1.mayo.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:02:06 -0500 Received: from fermat.mayo.edu by mhro1.mayo.edu with ESMTP; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:01:24 -0600 Received: from feynman.mayo.edu (feynman [129.176.212.47]) by fermat.mayo.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11531; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:01:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from feynman (feynman [129.176.212.47]) by feynman.mayo.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07009; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:01:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:01:23 -0600 (CST) From: "James P. Grenert" To: Schaefer cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 730T Memory Question (also TP360) In-Reply-To: <38950643.4FC4C72A@elpaso.net> Message-Id: Organization: Mayo Medical School MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Schaefer wrote: > Hi, what is the maximum amount of ram that can be put into a 730T. I > have heard 20 megs is what the specs say, but someone said that a 32 meg > card from another model of thinkpads works in it. Has anyone gone past > 20 megs? > I think that the 730T uses the same memory as the 360 series. In my TP360PE, the "official" limit is 20 MB. However, I have 36 MB in there (4 MB internal + 32 MB card), and it works fine. The catch is that the battery that holds onto the RAM when you swap out batteries in the 360 can't supply enough current for 36 MB, so no more swapping batteries in the middle of a session. I don't know if the 730T has this same capability, but it may be something to consider. Cheers. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu From cph Mon Jan 31 17:58:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA24089 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:58:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20081; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:56:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:55:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19952; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19938; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (208.154.252.26 -> mail.iso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:55:22 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial17.auto-net.com [208.154.252.66]) by mail.iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA95782 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:50:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <389612B7.DC5D9834@iso.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:54:47 -0600 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 730T Memory Question References: <38950643.4FC4C72A@elpaso.net> <38950B96.B48B95C8@gate.net> <389510B3.EDC65DA6@iso.net> <38951739.36F66CE5@gate.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Well I checked everything I have and found references to 4/8/16 mb - 70ns, 5v, non-parity memory only for the 730T. The 32 meg card I tried is a 92G7235 (FRU 92G7282) and is a 70ns, 5v, parity card and it did not work. However the Kingston TP750/16 card which is 70ns, 5V , parity does work. So I don't know the answer about 32 meg cards that might work. In the meantime I will stick with the 16 meg card that does work. Of course I am working with a sampling base of 1 and that can give a contrary answer. BTW, IBM says that the parity function is not supported on the 360's. But does that mean a parity card would not work? Bill Bill Morrow wrote: > AND, i just checked, and this machine wants a 92G7235 which is a parity memory > card.. > (sorry, i have been selling the non-parity cards for 360's) > > SO, look for a used memory card from a 755series or a 750 series.. > > if you can't find one, apricorn still makes these, cost is about $169... > > William Van Tuyl wrote: > > > I just checked the 730T's setup and there is no memory configuation - just a > > memory test. So it appears the non-parity card would be necessary. And I > > believe from reading the 730T's specs that it would have to be a 5 volt card. > > > > Bill > > > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > > 40meg is max, add one 32meg card.. > > > this is non parity memory.. > > > most 755CD, CE, 750, et al used parity memory... > > > you can try a parity memory card in the 730, but if you do, you should get > > > into easy setup and disable parity checking if that option is presented > > > there.. > > > > > > Schaefer wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, what is the maximum amount of ram that can be put into a 730T. I > > > > have heard 20 megs is what the specs say, but someone said that a 32 meg > > > > card from another model of thinkpads works in it. Has anyone gone past > > > > 20 megs? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > > > ------------_________\/________--------------- > > > > > > > > 1981 Red DeLorean DMC-12 > > > > #1118 28k Miles, 5-speed, Black Leather, Heaven. > > > > > > > > "Be careful what you say, > > > > Be very careful what you don't say..." > > > > > > > > -----------__________/\________--------------- > > > > > > -- > > > Happy trails... > > > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Jan 31 18:55:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA24478 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:55:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24400; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:54:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:53:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24229; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.infoave.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24216; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:53:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.infoave.net (165.166.0.27 -> smtp02.InfoAve.Net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:53:33 -0500 Received: from d richter ("port 1735"@[216.175.22.64]) by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) with SMTP id <01JLD574P12I8ZKEV7@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:53:04 EST Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:54:49 -0600 From: d richter Subject: Re: 730T Memory Question In-reply-to: <389612B7.DC5D9834@iso.net> X-Sender: dewmaster@mail.geneseo.net To: wvantuyl@iso.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <3.0.5.32.20000131175449.007985c0@mail.geneseo.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <38950643.4FC4C72A@elpaso.net> <38950B96.B48B95C8@gate.net> <389510B3.EDC65DA6@iso.net> <38951739.36F66CE5@gate.net> List-Unsubscribe: I to have the IBM 92G7282 32meg parity card and when I tried it in 2 different 730t neither worked. The card works great in a 750p. dewmaster(down on the farm) At 04:54 PM 01/31/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Well I checked everything I have and found references to 4/8/16 mb - 70ns, 5v, >non-parity memory only for the 730T. The 32 meg card I tried is a 92G7235 (FRU >92G7282) and is a 70ns, 5v, parity card and it did not work. However the Kingston >TP750/16 card which is 70ns, 5V , parity does work. So I don't know the answer >about 32 meg cards that might work. In the meantime I will stick with the 16 meg >card that does work. Of course I am working with a sampling base of 1 and that >can give a contrary answer. BTW, IBM says that the parity function is not >supported on the 360's. But does that mean a parity card would not work? > >Bill > >Bill Morrow wrote: > >> AND, i just checked, and this machine wants a 92G7235 which is a parity memory >> card.. >> (sorry, i have been selling the non-parity cards for 360's) >> >> SO, look for a used memory card from a 755series or a 750 series.. >> >> if you can't find one, apricorn still makes these, cost is about $169... >> >> William Van Tuyl wrote: >> >> > I just checked the 730T's setup and there is no memory configuation - just a >> > memory test. So it appears the non-parity card would be necessary. And I >> > believe from reading the 730T's specs that it would have to be a 5 volt card. >> > >> > Bill >> > >> > Bill Morrow wrote: >> > >> > > 40meg is max, add one 32meg card.. >> > > this is non parity memory.. >> > > most 755CD, CE, 750, et al used parity memory... >> > > you can try a parity memory card in the 730, but if you do, you should get >> > > into easy setup and disable parity checking if that option is presented >> > > there.. >> > > >> > > Schaefer wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hi, what is the maximum amount of ram that can be put into a 730T. I >> > > > have heard 20 megs is what the specs say, but someone said that a 32 meg >> > > > card from another model of thinkpads works in it. Has anyone gone past >> > > > 20 megs? >> > > > Thanks, >> > > > Mike >> > > > ------------_________\/________--------------- >> > > > >> > > > 1981 Red DeLorean DMC-12 >> > > > #1118 28k Miles, 5-speed, Black Leather, Heaven. >> > > > >> > > > "Be careful what you say, >> > > > Be very careful what you don't say..." >> > > > >> > > > -----------__________/\________--------------- >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Happy trails... >> > > >> > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) >> > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com >> > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net >> >> -- >> Happy trails... >> >> ** Bill Morrow ** :-) >> WEB page http://thinkpads.com >> e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net > > From cph Mon Jan 31 19:10:33 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA24539 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:10:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25526; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:09:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:09:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25416; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:09:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25403; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (216.145.8.233 -> ip-216.145.8.233.az.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:08:58 -0500 Received: from whistler.az.com (ip-216.145.8.254.az.com [216.145.8.254]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02553 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Received: from MYHOSTNAME ([10.66.26.187]) by whistler.az.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA13021 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:10:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <200002010010.QAA13021@whistler.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Mon, 31 Jan 00 16:19:47 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: High X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PCMCIA Card Services Diskette V. 4.09 List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone have this disk for a ThinkPad 365XD ?? Mine got ate my V.4.12 which doesn't finish copying files before it chokes. Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph Mon Jan 31 19:29:04 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA24611 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:29:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26859; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:28:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:28:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26777; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:28:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26761; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:27:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:27:58 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-345.gate.net [199.227.131.154]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA114080; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:27:43 -0500 Message-ID: <38962899.72A66157@gate.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:28:09 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: d richter CC: wvantuyl@iso.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 730T Memory Question References: <38950643.4FC4C72A@elpaso.net> <38950B96.B48B95C8@gate.net> <389510B3.EDC65DA6@iso.net> <38951739.36F66CE5@gate.net> <3.0.5.32.20000131175449.007985c0@mail.geneseo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Apricorn (thinkpad proven) calls for the parity card in the 730 series... never having seen a 730, i can't say for sure, who's right, but empirical testing seems to show that the parity card does not work in the 730.. the 360 used a non-parity card, no IBM p/n for it, Apricorn p/n is 4370-32.. the next point is the bios rev. level..?! d richter wrote: > I to have the IBM 92G7282 32meg parity card and when I tried it in 2 > different 730t neither worked. The card works great in a 750p. > > dewmaster(down on the farm) > > At 04:54 PM 01/31/2000 -0600, you wrote: > >Well I checked everything I have and found references to 4/8/16 mb - 70ns, > 5v, > >non-parity memory only for the 730T. The 32 meg card I tried is a > 92G7235 (FRU > >92G7282) and is a 70ns, 5v, parity card and it did not work. However the > Kingston > >TP750/16 card which is 70ns, 5V , parity does work. So I don't know the > answer > >about 32 meg cards that might work. In the meantime I will stick with the > 16 meg > >card that does work. Of course I am working with a sampling base of 1 > and that > >can give a contrary answer. BTW, IBM says that the parity function is not > >supported on the 360's. But does that mean a parity card would not work? > > > >Bill > > > >Bill Morrow wrote: > > > >> AND, i just checked, and this machine wants a 92G7235 which is a parity > memory > >> card.. > >> (sorry, i have been selling the non-parity cards for 360's) > >> > >> SO, look for a used memory card from a 755series or a 750 series.. > >> > >> if you can't find one, apricorn still makes these, cost is about $169... > >> > >> William Van Tuyl wrote: > >> > >> > I just checked the 730T's setup and there is no memory configuation - > just a > >> > memory test. So it appears the non-parity card would be necessary. > And I > >> > believe from reading the 730T's specs that it would have to be a 5 > volt card. > >> > > >> > Bill > >> > > >> > Bill Morrow wrote: > >> > > >> > > 40meg is max, add one 32meg card.. > >> > > this is non parity memory.. > >> > > most 755CD, CE, 750, et al used parity memory... > >> > > you can try a parity memory card in the 730, but if you do, you > should get > >> > > into easy setup and disable parity checking if that option is presented > >> > > there.. > >> > > > >> > > Schaefer wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Hi, what is the maximum amount of ram that can be put into a > 730T. I > >> > > > have heard 20 megs is what the specs say, but someone said that a > 32 meg > >> > > > card from another model of thinkpads works in it. Has anyone gone > past > >> > > > 20 megs? > >> > > > Thanks, > >> > > > Mike > >> > > > ------------_________\/________--------------- > >> > > > > >> > > > 1981 Red DeLorean DMC-12 > >> > > > #1118 28k Miles, 5-speed, Black Leather, Heaven. > >> > > > > >> > > > "Be careful what you say, > >> > > > Be very careful what you don't say..." > >> > > > > >> > > > -----------__________/\________--------------- > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Happy trails... > >> > > > >> > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > >> > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > >> > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net > >> > >> -- > >> Happy trails... > >> > >> ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > >> WEB page http://thinkpads.com > >> e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net > > > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net