From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 1 00:24:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA08352 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 00:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02031; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 00:23:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 1 Nov 1998 00:21:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01883; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 00:21:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01868; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 00:20:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA04081; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:20:49 -1000 Message-ID: <005001be055f$d582be60$417c6520@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Soulmann" Subject: Re: ~=-Cracked Case-=~ Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 00:21:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >Is this something I can fix myself? Any suggestions for gluing it back together and preventing further fissures? Epoxy? Superglue? Is this covered under warranty? Neither epoxy nor superglue will properly adhere to ABS composition plastics, from which most laptop cases are made. Faced with a similar problem I've been recommended to use an ABS solvent adhesive, the 'best' apparently being IPS/Weld-On #1707. (Unfortunately, I haven't yet found this brand at any hardware or plumbing-supply stores myself.) Since many model airplanes are also apparently made of ABS plastic, I think airplane model cement ought to hold, though the solvent cement would be a cleaner repair. If and when I get around to trying to repair my 560's case with this stuff, I will post the results. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 1 02:09:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA09334 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 02:09:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04197; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 02:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 1 Nov 1998 02:08:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04108; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 02:08:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.teleport.com (smtp2.teleport.com [192.108.254.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04096; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 02:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22112 invoked from network); 1 Nov 1998 07:08:09 -0000 Received: from usertest.teleport.com (HELO user2.teleport.com) (pccare@192.108.254.19) by smtp2.teleport.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 1998 07:08:09 -0000 Received: (from pccare@localhost) by user2.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA04868; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 23:08:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 23:08:08 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick West To: Christopher Haun cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New OS/2 Files 10/29/1998 (Daily Listing) (fwd) In-Reply-To: <5040500021936373000002L032*@MHS> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Nope, they are the same. But having another place to look, esp one that is not as subject to shuffling around as IBM's site's are.... On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Christopher Haun wrote: > Are these different from the ones on the IBM Web page? They look the same. > > Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] > IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center > Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 > Mobile: 919-260-1368 > Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 1 07:54:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA11322 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 07:54:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17450; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 07:53:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 1 Nov 1998 07:52:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17327; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 07:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix1.seitz.de (unix1.seitz.de [193.102.72.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17312; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 07:50:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from seitz.de (asterix.seitz.de [193.102.73.2]) by unix1.seitz.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA69AA for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:49:31 +0100 Message-ID: <363C58E6.B408160B@seitz.de> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 13:49:42 +0100 From: "Adnan Mumbasic" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: ThinkPad 770ED: suspend problem Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------msA2180E7F85D2864D443734AC" List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------msA2180E7F85D2864D443734AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, does anyone else has the problem after suspend to wakeup the notebook? My TP770 ED (Win95 OSR2) hangs after suspending. The suspend action seems to work correct (fn+F4 or via Windows or LCD close), but after trying to wake up only the middle led on the back of the lcd display blinks. I have to switch off and on. This is also a problem, because when this with the suspend happens (it happens not always) I canīt switch off or reset the TP, I have to pull also the accu out and the many time switch off, reset and so on. Then it happens after 5-10 times that the machine boots, otherwise it hangs after displaying the amount of memory. When this happens I canīt even start the easy setup. Is this a HW defekt or is this a SW error from Win95 and the power management? I use nearly always a PCMCIA ethernetcard (3COM or Xircom) with Windows PCMCIA driver not CardWizard. 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Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22360; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:50:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:49:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22269; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:49:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22255; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:49:15 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from [158.152.181.205] (helo=bs28ha.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0za1cg-0000nG-00; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 17:49:07 +0000 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Cc: Jean-Pierre Diebold Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: Iomega Zip drive vs. VST internal zip drive Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 17:44:40 GMT Message-ID: <363f6c40.27378324@post.demon.co.uk> References: <3.0.5.32.19981031133253.007c9a70@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981031133253.007c9a70@mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:32:53 -0500, you wrote: >Hi everybody... > >It seems to me that I have made a bad decision buying the internal = IOMEGA >ZIP DRIVE: Do Iomega make internal Zip drives for ThinkPads? Where can I find out more? Does this drive fit into the Ultrabay (where the CD/Floppy drive normally fits). >1- Iomega is not hot-swappable (VST is) Certainly not hot-swappable with my 760CD - maybe that's different for your machine. This can get annoying sometimes since reooting Windows 98 always takes a fair while on my less than lightning-fast 3-year-old machine. >2- Iomega is not Thinkpad Proven?! (VST is) VST is ThinkPad Proven, so are CNF >3- Iomega does have some annoying bugs (VST?) Which bugs are you referring to? >I am going to try to return my Iomega and exchange for VST? Good luck. >Does anyone have a VST? What are your thoughts? I've used the VST drive with my ThinkPad 760CD for almost a year now. No problems so far with the drive - some problems with one particular zip disk though (not sure if this is related to the drive - don't think so - hope not!). The drive is fast - much much faster than the parallel port zip drives (I used that previously). Overall, I am happy with the purchase. >Also, how about the one made by CNF? It seems to be to be pretty similar to the VST drive (see http://www.vsttech.com/ and http://www.cnfinc.com/). However, an interesting addition (available separately) that CNF offers is the external Ultrabay replicator with a PCMCIA interface, which can fit the CNF Zip drive (and presumable *any* other Ultrabay device) for use externally. However, from the price quoted on their Web site (US$199), the cost of this is almost as much as the drive itself! Another option which you may be interested in is the PCMCIA Zip drives >from Amacom (http://www.amacom-tech.com/) and Novamax (does anyone know their web site?). However, from the spec sheets, these drives are a lot slower than the internal ones. Nonetheless, the major advantage would be the ability to have both the Zip drive and the CD-ROM drive at the same time (especially in my case where hot-swapping is not possible). Maybe someone can give us some opinions on these PCMCIA drives? , Regards, Nick From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 1 13:31:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA13133 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23490; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:31:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:30:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23394; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.239.142]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23379; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:30:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from abtp ([199.179.164.176]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v03.02.02 118 115) with SMTP id <19981101182159.UCZ16199@[199.179.164.176]> for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:21:59 -0600 Message-ID: <005b01be05c4$805a8f20$b0a4b3c7@abtp> Reply-To: "Aaron W. Brown" From: "Aaron W. Brown" To: Subject: Re: 755C video under Win95/8 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:21:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Its a shame IBM hasn't provided the expected "tier 1" support for this popular Western Digital video chip. Win3.1 drivers are unexceptable. The slow performance, difficulty of installation, reliablity, and lack of Direct X capability should be an embarrassment to the Thinkpad group. Many of these machines were manufactured in 1994 with 3 year warrantees. Givin that Win95/98 is the most popular OS in the world, expecting native video drivers seems reasonable. Is there an alternative (generic?) Win95/98/NT driver for this video setup? Aaron Brown >You need to install the DOS/Win3.1 video driver. Here is the link: >http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/COBN-3EMDHL.html > >Subject: 755C video under Win95/8 > > >A few weeks ago I had a problem solved here with getting Win98 installed on >a >755C in only 15 minutes. I don't expect tat kind of response again, but I'm >sure there's someone who has run into this problem before and I can't seem >to >find a solution by poking around. > >With both Win98 and then again with Win95 (dropping back because of this >problem), the system installed a Western Digital video driver that refuses >to >use more then 16 colors. I have spent a lot of time at the IBM Thinkpad web >site (until they broke it again tonight) trying to figure out what file(s) I >might be missing. I seem to have no VESA.EXE installed in config.sys but >I'm >not sure if that affects only DOS or Win95 too. > >On the slightly less annoying front, the utilities diskette seems to no >longer >have the programs to set up the power management features and that show the >pictures of the front and back of the thinkpad. I'm sure I'm missing >something here too .... what is it? I know that the utilities changed for >Win98 on the 760+ thinkpads to use the Microsoft configuration code but it's >not clear what happens for the old 755's. > >Any help would be appreciated. > >Thanks, >Bob Cowles > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 1 13:45:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA13250 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:45:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24077; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:44:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:44:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23983; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (p57074.syspac.com [204.181.57.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23970; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0za2UC-00014PC; Sun, 1 Nov 98 11:44 MST Message-Id: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 98 11:44 MST From: jones@pyrrhusoft.com (David Jones) To: delgallo@jps.net CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701 and PCMCIA/cdrom Question List-Unsubscribe: Did you solve your problem? If not, what is your CD-ROM drive and associated PCMCIA card. Is it a proprietary interface? I try to stay with SCSI and have no problems with Warp or Merlin on the Butterfly. Regards, David Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 1 21:35:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA17073 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:35:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17841; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:34:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:30:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17567; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17555; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:30:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from 194.chicago-03-04rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.149.194]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981102023012.EXQT20998@194.chicago-03-04rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:30:12 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP560] Resume on Ring? Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 02:29:58 GMT Message-ID: <363d182d.41463519@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Now that I've made the Sony 505 my primary system, I've be using my IBM 560 as a dial-up server/answering machine/fax server. But I occasionally need the outlet and since the 560 can last for about a week in suspend mode I'd like to charge it ever few days and run from the battery the rest of the time. The problem is that I can't get the Thinkpad to wake up from suspend mode when the phone rings. I usually see this option when a modem is installed on a laptop, but can't find it anywhere now. Anyone making similar use of a Thinkpad without a built-in modem that has some pointers? epbrown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 00:06:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA18548 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22487; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:04:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22370; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:04:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22350; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:04:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA07337; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 19:04:11 -1000 Message-ID: <001301be0626$aa16d6e0$c5c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Emanuel Brown" , Subject: Re: [TP560] Resume on Ring? Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:04:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: EPB wrote: "occasionally need the outlet and since the 560 can last for about a week in suspend mode I'd like to charge it ever few days and run from the battery the rest of the time. The problem is that I can't get the Thinkpad to wake up from suspend mode when the phone rings." This is an advanced feature under 'power' in the control panel. Now, let me convince you not to do this. The 560 takes several seconds to wake up, even in suspend mode. The W95 Dial-Up Networking Server answers on the first ring; this is absolutely positively not changeable, for reasons I won't go into here. This combination will make a very flaky answering setup! I was never able to make this work to my satisfaction on the Micron serving IP from my office, and finally gave up and left it on (and plugged in) 24/7. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 09:33:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA22380 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:33:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14757; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:24:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14366; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from docws002.shl.com (docws002.shl.com [159.249.56.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14349; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com (ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.24]) by docws002.shl.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA04985 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:24:20 -0700 (MST) Received: by ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BE0642.4FE46950@ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:22:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "'ThinkPad List'" Subject: RE: ~=-Cracked Case-=~ Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:24:33 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: How about a brass or stainless steel name plate securely glued over the area? Ciao,Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect Ottawa Global Delivery Centre, SHL Systemhouse an MCI Company :^(+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax:232-5182:^( :^} ttrottier@shl.com http://www.shl.com :^} *:)50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada*:) ~Questions answered, answers questioned~ ---------- From: Soulmann [SMTP:soulmann@my-dejanews.com] Sent: 1998 October 31 - Saturday 14:30 To: ThinkPad List Subject: ~=-Cracked Case-=~ Hello TP Gurus: My immaculately kept 760 has decided to play a trick on this otherwise peaceful Halloween. The right rear hinge has developed a 1/4 inch crack that's bound to grow as time goes by. The outer corner of the case has also coughed up a piece. Is this something I can fix myself? Any suggestions for gluing it back together and preventing further fissures? Epoxy? Superglue? Is this covered under warranty? Thanks in advance for your expertise and happy and safe trick or treating. -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 13:23:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA25221 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:23:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28109; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:19:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27939; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:19:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27924; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA08087 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:19:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:19:07 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Reply-To: Michael To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: "i" 1720 Pad.... On order... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Ordered a "i" 1720 (266p2) today direct from IBM. Hope my little old 701 does not take it too bad...(; Expected ship date is Nov 23rd.. Anyone else ordered one yet?? BTW the "i" series only has 1 year warranty.. I ordered a year extended to make a total of 2 years ($99.00). May order another year once I get the machine paid off... BTW I noticed that CompUSA's price a few weeks ago was 2499.00. Now it 3499.00!! http://www.compusa.com/compusa/product_display.asp?prod_id=2627720 However it's still 2499.00 on IBM's page. Hmmm.... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 13:26:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA25320 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28320; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:23:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28172; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ssec.wisc.edu (ssec.wisc.edu [144.92.108.61]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28149; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:22:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.ssec.wisc.edu (mail.ssec.wisc.edu [144.92.108.227]) by ssec.wisc.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA112280 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:22:49 -0600 Received: by mail.ssec.wisc.edu with ADMIN;2 Nov 1998 12:20:20 -0600 Message-ID: <363DFBF9.6F22BCE3@ssec.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:37:45 -0600 From: Paul Schnettler Reply-To: paulsch@ssec.wisc.edu Organization: UW-Space Science & Engineering Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Mon, 02 Nov 1998 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I would do two things. 1. get a small diameter drill bit and drill a hole at the end of the crack. This will stop the crack migration. 2. Go to your local auto parts store and look for "crack weld" type of PVC plastic repair. OR go to your hardware store and in the plumbing section you can find "multipurpose cement" for glueing CPVC, PVC and ABS type plastics. you can use a small amount to close the crack and fill the small hole that you drilled as a stress relief. This is what I have done to repair plastic cracks on snowmobile hoods and also on my motorcycle fairing. (It used to be a similar repair technique on fiberglass parts too). Hope it helps... P.S. superglue and most epoxy's won't "attack" the plastic and adhere well enough to give an adaquate fix. owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU wrote: > > > ---------- > From: Soulmann [SMTP:soulmann@my-dejanews.com] > Sent: 1998 October 31 - Saturday 14:30 > To: ThinkPad List > Subject: ~=-Cracked Case-=~ > > Hello TP Gurus: > > My immaculately kept 760 has decided to play a trick on this otherwise > peaceful Halloween. The right rear hinge has developed a 1/4 inch > crack that's bound to grow as time goes by. The outer corner of the > case has also coughed up a piece. > > Is this something I can fix myself? Any suggestions for gluing it back > together and preventing further fissures? Epoxy? Superglue? Is this > covered under warranty? > > Thanks in advance for your expertise and happy and safe trick or > treating. > > -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 16:07:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA28130 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:07:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08709; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:05:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:03:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08376; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from ankle.uplanet.com (host-189-2.uplanet.com [208.232.189.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08359; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:02:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by ankle.uplanet.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:02:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:02:54 -0800 From: Jesse Montrose To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: new 560 coming Message-ID: <19981102130254.M31233@ankle> Reply-To: jesse@spine.com Mail-Followup-To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.14i List-Unsubscribe: Yum. http://www.pcworld.com/pcwtoday/article/0,1510,8551,00.html In 1999, Big Blue will change the form factor of its ultrathin ThinkPad 560, reducing the thickness to less than 1.2 inches and increasing storage capacity to more than 6GB. The screen size will increase to 13.3 inches. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 17:01:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA28851 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:01:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11467; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:54:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:53:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11349; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:53:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.capecod.net (mailhost.capecod.net [204.255.214.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11332; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:53:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from capecod.net (camb0810.capecod.net [209.244.240.48]) by mailhost.capecod.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA10789 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:53:38 -0500 Message-ID: <363E299F.D849EEE6@capecod.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:52:31 -0500 From: rdietric Reply-To: bigdaddy@ieee.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Subject: TP760XD AND FXPK-7/8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I run WARP 4.0 on my TP. FXPK 7 caused unexplained, frequent, random, system 3175 errors. I backed out of it. Yesterday I tried FXPK8. Same problem. The mouse finally did get fixed though. The problem starts with an unknown application causing the error and then spreads to the workplace shell. Only recovery is to reboot. Any thoughts. Bob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 17:09:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA28958 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:09:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12191; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:06:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12061; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:06:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12043; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:06:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA77456; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:48:17 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA13008; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:01:42 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500022046694; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:03:58 -0500 From: Christopher Haun To: Cc: Subject: Re: TP760XD AND FXPK-7/8 Message-ID: <5040500022046694000002L042*@MHS> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:03:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: FixPak 8? just a suggestion I haven't tried it. I do have Warp 4 fixpak 7 on a 600 here with no problems. Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 ladybug@capecod.net on 11/02/98 04:46:37 PM Please respond to bigdaddy@ieee.org To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: TP760XD AND FXPK-7/8 I run WARP 4.0 on my TP. FXPK 7 caused unexplained, frequent, random, system 3175 errors. I backed out of it. Yesterday I tried FXPK8. Same problem. The mouse finally did get fixed though. The problem starts with an unknown application causing the error and then spreads to the workplace shell. Only recovery is to reboot. Any thoughts. Bob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 17:34:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA29663 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13508; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:32:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:30:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13344; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from snail.ecs.umass.edu (snail.ecs.umass.edu [128.119.91.94]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13323; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:30:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu (rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu [128.119.71.47]) by snail.ecs.umass.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA06211 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:30:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BE0686.8A36BCE0@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:30:52 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE0686.8A36BCE0@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu> From: Axel Hartmann To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: TP 701 getting old... problems: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:30:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: hi all, I guess my TP 701 is getting old. There are a couple of things that have evolved: 1) Sound. I seem to remember the sound coming out of the Butterfly being pretty decent when I first got it. I was playing .wav's to people standing in the office. Now, I can hardly hear it myself. It also seems much more tinny and scratchy. And I can't hear anything in our somewhat loud lab, it wasn't quite that bad in the beginning. Any pointers? 2) Battery. I sort of knew that my batteries were run down, but today I tested it to the end. A fully charged battery (2:00h), and a long .mpg video cycling forever and running off the hard drive. The problem begins as soon as I unplug the 'pad: it tells me that I need to suspend or plug in, the battery meter shows empty, (0:00h). When I ignored that and the W95 message to the same topic, it ran and ran and ran, for much over an hour, and it died while I was at lunch. Funny thing is that Fn-F1 said that the battery was empty but it was charging, even though it was not plugged in! Also, even though my settings were on Custom, with no screen timeout, the screen turned off after one minute. So, I'm glad that the battery is ok enough to get an hour and a half of life, but the forced screen-timeout is annouying and of course there is no telling when the system actually dies. Does this behavior have anything to do with the Toshiba MAV2104 (or similar) that I put in? I heard it uses more power, could that confuse the whole power settings? 3) Docking Station (Bar). The little hook on the left side (the movable one) is almost broken off. Does Easy Serve replace/repair that? Also, my screen- latch on the left doesn't work well anymore, so that suspend wakes up as soon as I move the 'pad. Oh, and the left mouse button is becoming very squishy... any comments welcome, axel ............................................................................ . Axel Hartmann . . Paper'n'People : 33 Meadow Street; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . . Voice : +1 (413) 549 - 6113 , Fax on demand . ............................................................................ . Office : Dept. of Chemical Engineering; UMass; Amherst, MA 01003 . . Office Phone : +1 (413) 577 - 1235 Fax: +1 (413) 545 - 1649 . . E-Mail : axhartma@risky.ecs.umass.edu . . Homepage : http://rheoserver.pse.umass.edu/users/axel/index.html . ............................................................................ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 17:34:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA29683 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:34:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13630; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:34:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:32:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13421; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:32:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13397; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id QAA04214 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:31:54 -0600 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:31:54 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755C and video Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I don't know who wrote about having trouble with the 755C's video drivers for Win95/98, but I just got a 755CX (which appears to have the same video chipset), and last night I installed DirectX 6.0 without a hitch. Ultimate Doom for Windows 95 (a DirectX Windows app) didn't run well at all in 640x400 (upper-left corner image, wrong colors, slow frame rate), but it ran great at 320x200 and 320x240. Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 18:35:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA02659 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:35:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16675; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:34:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:32:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16557; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (phr@netcom19.netcom.com [192.100.81.132]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16512; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:31:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom19.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id PAA19440 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:31:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:31:17 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199811022331.PAA19440@netcom19.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: CD-RW in 770 drive? List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know if the 24x cd-rom drive for the Thinkpad 770 can read CD-RW disks? Thanks. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 19:20:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA03535 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:20:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18438; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:19:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:18:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18316; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:18:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from aeromsg2.ball.com (aeromsg2.ball.com [162.18.83.47]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18302; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by aeromsg2.ball.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:17:23 -0700 Message-ID: <53654725144FD111A24100805F57DEC0017E41AC@aeromsg2.ball.com> From: "Davenport, Darren" To: "'THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU'" Subject: [TP I Series] Experiences with this system Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:17:14 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone who owns or uses one have any opinions they'd like to share? I'm looking to buy a new laptop and this seems like a good candidate for my needs. Thanks. Darren Davenport ddavenpo@ball.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 20:16:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA04120 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:16:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20637; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:12:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20453; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:12:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20440; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:12:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p32.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.95]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA16307; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:10:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811030110.RAA16307@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Michael" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 02 Nov 98 17:08:18 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: "i" 1720 Pad.... On order... List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:19:07 -0500 (EST), Michael wrote: > >Ordered a "i" 1720 (266p2) today direct from IBM. > >Hope my little old 701 does not take it too bad...(; > >Expected ship date is Nov 23rd.. > >Anyone else ordered one yet?? > >BTW the "i" series only has 1 year warranty.. I ordered a year extended >to make a total of 2 years ($99.00). May order another year once I get the >machine paid off... > >BTW I noticed that CompUSA's price a few weeks ago was 2499.00. Now it >3499.00!! > >http://www.compusa.com/compusa/product_display.asp?prod_id=2627720 > CompUSA is too expensive and their service is awful. Calling them is equivalent to calling DMV or Packard Bell, except they have annoying music/talking on hold. I wish our store had ThinkPads though (besides a broken 365XD). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 20:41:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA04396 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:41:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21593; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:41:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:40:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21500; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:40:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21488; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:40:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA09347; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:39:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:39:53 -0500 (EST) From: Michael To: Axel Hartmann cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: TP 701 getting old... problems: In-Reply-To: <01BE0686.8A36BCE0@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Axel Hartmann wrote: > 3) Docking Station (Bar). The little hook on the left side (the movable one) > is almost broken off. Does Easy Serve replace/repair that? Also, my screen- > latch on the left doesn't work well anymore, so that suspend wakes up as > soon as I move the 'pad. Oh, and the left mouse button is becoming very > squishy... Still under warranty???? Send it in to EZ serv.. I sent mine (well called in in) 3 days before it was out of warranty. Had that "melting screen" problem when it got hot & a real bad enter key. They replaced the screen, & keyboard (includes the track point buttons) with no complaints. Also one of my cover clips was broke (did not tell them about this) and it was replaced also. On the multi-port adaptor, my little clip broke about 2 years ago, they sent me out a new one with a RMA to return the old one. Michael From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 20:44:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA04412 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:44:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21835; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:43:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21705; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:43:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21691; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA09362; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:42:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:42:54 -0500 (EST) From: Michael To: "Davenport, Darren" cc: "'THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU'" Subject: Re: [TP I Series] Experiences with this system In-Reply-To: <53654725144FD111A24100805F57DEC0017E41AC@aeromsg2.ball.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Davenport, Darren wrote: > Does anyone who owns or uses one have any opinions they'd like to share? > I'm looking to buy a new laptop and this seems like a good candidate for my > needs. > Don't think anyone has them yet. Due to be released mid month. I should get mine around the 25th. I'm sure I'll be posting about it then.. Michael From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 22:43:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA05515 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:43:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25815; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:41:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25681; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:41:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from priv-edtnps05-hme0.telusplanet.net (edtnps05.telusplanet.net [198.161.157.105]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25661; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:40:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from TP770GSNT ([207.229.26.208]) by priv-edtnps05-hme0.telusplanet.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 220 ID# 0-51631U125000L125000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:40:48 -0700 Received: by TP770GSNT with Microsoft Mail id <01BE06A1.11E2A540@TP770GSNT>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:40:47 -0700 Message-ID: <01BE06A1.11E2A540@TP770GSNT> From: Geza Szivos To: "'Paul Rubin'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: CD-RW in 770 drive? Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:40:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The DVD can. Geza Szivos Systems Engineer, SIVCO Inc. BESTeam and TEAMOS2 Member Certified IBM OS/2 Engineer, Certified Warp Server Engineer, Certified VisualAge for C++ Object Oriented Developer, Certified DB2 Developer VisualWarehouse Specialist Tel: (403)-850-4500 FAX: (403)-547-4741 Szivos@ibm.net 118 Arbour Summit Close NW 200 Olympic Towers 300 Pearl St Calgary Alberta Canada Buffalo NY T3G 3W2 14202 --------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Paul Rubin [SMTP:phr@netcom.com] Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:31 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: CD-RW in 770 drive? Does anyone know if the 24x cd-rom drive for the Thinkpad 770 can read CD-RW disks? Thanks. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 22:59:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA05676 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:59:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26546; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:58:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26450; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:58:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26435; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:57:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.16.146]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 1557700 ; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 22:51:35 -0500 Message-ID: <008501be06db$9506ae00$0200000a@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad Mailing list" Subject: [TP701] Card services and Win95b... Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:39:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hey there, I'v decided to add some more RAM to the laptop, and just finished installing Win95b(previously the a version) A seemed to take up less space and a bit faster. Anyways, I have a Home&away ethernet combo card. But wait! I don't think that it's the source of the problems. Upon installation of Win95a, I had no conflicts or problems on the first boot(not just in the pcmcia are-all around) So I installed the B version, and as expected, it works fine. I did however, get an 'Other Device' in the Control Panel-System. It says it's 'PCMCIA Card Services'. I didn't know why it was there(my config files are wiped clean of enablers, etc) so I 'disabled in this hardware profile' and unchecked 'exists in all hardware profiles'. I restarted win95, and my card doesn't work! All the lights are on, but nothing works in Network Neighborhood. I tried to go back and re-enable it, but it was gone! I did a hardware search which came up with nothing. So I'm just now finishing up re-installing Win95b. Can anyout out there tell me what's goin on here? I don't feel like re-installing again. :-) I did a bootlog-boot and got a handfull of errors pertaining to networking(ndis drivers, etc, etc) Thanks, preciate it. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 23:11:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA05800 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27104; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:11:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:09:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26957; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:09:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (smtp.email.msn.com [207.68.143.160]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26936; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from default - 208.250.60.245 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:09:21 -0800 Message-ID: <004a01be06df$a319c000$f53cfad0@default> From: "MJC" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: Help!!! I thought I had my mind setup, but...Dell Inspiron 3500 or TP i Series? Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:08:37 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, I thought I had my mind setup. Eventhough I still have not seen (in person) the i Series, it looks like a very cool machine, with everything I would need to replace my old Dell Dimension 75. Now comes the Inspiron 3500, which is lighter, uses a Lith battery, and is 233 Pent II. The only things is that the i series comes with 64 megs and good speakers, the rest, I have no idea. I do not care much for software because I use Office and the Net, thats all. I heard the Pent II runs hotter than the 266 MMX and the last is better on battery life. Another thing I like about the i Series is that is a complete package and do not have to swap drivers and have a better IMO track point. Bottom line, help me with this choices. BTW I have a budget for the low end $1999 Inspiron and/or the $1999 i Series. Thanks in advance, MJC. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 23:20:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA05874 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:20:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27667; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:19:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27571; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27558; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp.binghamton.edu ([128.226.136.184]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA24302; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:19:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811030419.XAA24302@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 23:18:43 -0500 To: "Slip" , "Thinkpad Mailing list" From: Ken Subject: Re: [TP701] Card services and Win95b... In-Reply-To: <008501be06db$9506ae00$0200000a@amdk6266> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >installing Win95b(previously the a version) A seemed to take up less space >and a bit faster. Anyways, I have a Home&away ethernet combo card. But wait! >restarted win95, and my card doesn't work! All the lights are on, but I was unable to get a Home & Away ethernet combo card to work on my laptop, running Win95 OSR2. The person whose card it was said that it never works with OSR2, according to everything he tried, and other people's experiences as well. Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 2 23:52:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA06183 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:52:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28769; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:51:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:49:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28598; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:49:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28586; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:48:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.16.146]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 1629500 ; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 23:38:47 -0500 Message-ID: <009601be06e2$2cb6b6e0$0200000a@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad Mailing list" , "Ken" Subject: Re: [TP701] Card services and Win95b... Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:26:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >I was unable to get a Home & Away ethernet combo card to work on my laptop, >running Win95 OSR2. The person whose card it was said that it never works >with OSR2, according to everything he tried, and other people's experiences >as well. Did you re-download the IBM driver disk? They released a new driver for it around February of this year. Trust me, it'll work with OSR2. In the helpfile included with the disk, there's a mention about the flashing of the card. You can flash it to work with Win95a, but you MUST undo the flash for it to work with Win95b. I did so and all seems well. You can get it at: http://www.networking.ibm.com/support/products.nsf/techsupport/(homeaway)?Op enDocument (make sure to get the entire URL). Hope this helps, and good luck. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 3 00:04:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA06312 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:04:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29469; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:02:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:01:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29381; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29355; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp.binghamton.edu ([128.226.136.184]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA06577; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:01:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811030501.AAA06577@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 00:01:16 -0500 To: "Slip" , "Thinkpad Mailing list" From: Ken Subject: Re: [TP701] Card services and Win95b... In-Reply-To: <009601be06e2$2cb6b6e0$0200000a@amdk6266> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Ken wrote: >>I was unable to get a Home & Away ethernet combo card to work on my laptop, >>running Win95 OSR2. The person whose card it was said that it never works At 11:26 PM 11/2/98 -0500, Slip wrote: >Did you re-download the IBM driver disk? They released a new driver for it >around February of this year. Trust me, it'll work with OSR2. In the >helpfile included with the disk, there's a mention about the flashing of the >card. You can flash it to work with Win95a, but you MUST undo the flash for >it to work with Win95b. I did so and all seems well. You can get it at: Aha...yes, that card HAD been flashed for OSR1, so I guess the flash needs to be "undone." Didn't know that it could be. Thanks! Ken kenzo@free-music.com http://free-music.com/ken/resume From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 3 02:03:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07641 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 02:03:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02875; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 02:02:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 02:01:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02700; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 02:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02686; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 02:01:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p47.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.110]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA17341; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:02:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811030702.XAA17341@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Adnan Mumbasic" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 02 Nov 98 23:00:11 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Quickboot? List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:45:45 +0100, Adnan Mumbasic wrote: > Please, post in normal ASCII, not HTML text. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 3 02:03:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07648 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 02:03:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02932; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 02:03:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 02:02:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02789; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 02:02:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02754; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 02:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p47.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.110]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA17377; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:02:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811030702.XAA17377@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Adnan Mumbasic" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 02 Nov 98 23:00:21 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinPad 770ED boot problem List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:53:19 +0100, Adnan Mumbasic wrote: > Still can't read this. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 3 06:23:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA09300 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16676; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:23:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:21:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16586; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16574; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:21:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.18.60]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 1876000 ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 06:33:28 -0500 Message-ID: <00be01be071c$1b1fcc20$0200000a@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad Mailing list" , "Ken" Subject: Re: [TP701] Card services and Win95b... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:21:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >Aha...yes, that card HAD been flashed for OSR1, so I guess the flash needs >to be "undone." Didn't know that it could be. >Thanks! Yep, the file from IBM's site is a disk image that'll create a boot disk. You'll have to boot from it. Once you do, it's self-explanatory from there. You want the status of the card to 'not be enabled for Win95'. HTH. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 3 14:08:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA13914 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07908; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:07:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:00:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07418; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:00:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07386; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:00:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811031900.OAA07386@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from gizmo.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Wed, 2 Nov 1988 11:56:48 -0800 (PST) From: "Victor Kress" To: "bigdaddy@ieee.org" , "rdietric" , "Thinkpad" Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:00:27 -0800 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP760XD AND FXPK-7/8 List-Unsubscribe: This won't help you, but fixpack 8 seems to work fine on a TP600. Good luck. On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:52:31 -0500, rdietric wrote: >I run WARP 4.0 on my TP. FXPK 7 caused unexplained, frequent, random, >system 3175 errors. I backed out of it. Yesterday I tried FXPK8. >Same problem. The mouse finally did get fixed though. The problem >starts with an unknown application causing the error and then spreads to >the workplace shell. Only recovery is to reboot. Any thoughts. > >Bob ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 3 14:12:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA13967 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:12:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08365; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:09:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08180; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (mcfs.whowhere.com [209.1.236.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08069; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by my-dejanews.com; Tue Nov 3 11:08:08 1998 To: "Paul Schnettler" Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:08:08 -0700 From: "Soulmann" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: ~=-Cracked Case-=~ X-Sender-Ip: 129.15.92.138 Organization: Deja News Mail (http://www.my-dejanews.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, Sorry, I should have been more clear. It's a hairline crack rather than something more serious. Think I'll probably take it to a service center and see what they can do. Thank you and to all those who replied. -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 3 14:58:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA14639 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:57:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10571; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:48:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10271; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.jud.ca.gov (mx.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.222]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10230; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:48:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (host-220.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.220] (may be forged)) by mx.jud.ca.gov (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA16033 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:45:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.11 Enterprise) id 00000789; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:52:06 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:43:59 -0800 Message-ID: <00000789.1225@aoc.jud.state.ca.us> From: Mitchell_Yee@aoc.jud.state.ca.us (Mitchell Yee) Subject: FS: 701C + Dock II To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part List-Unsubscribe: FS (as one package): IBM Thinkpad 701C (butterfly) with: 1 AC Adapter 2 NiMH batteries Win95B (SP1) 2.1 GB hard drive 40 MB RAM Megahertz PCMCIA XJack 33.6 Fax/Modem all of the original manuals and packing carton Slightly more than 1 year left on the EZ Serve warranty without: any cracked hinges dead pixels Dock II with: Dock II/701 Adapter 8x SCSI CD-ROM (Panasonic, I think) all of the original manuals, but not the original carton. I'd like $700 for the entire package, or best offer. If you think I'm asking too much but still want to make an reasonable offer, go ahead. No reasonable offers refused. Buyer to pay for shipping. I'd rather not sell the 701 and the Dock II separately, but if you're interested let me know too. Why I'm selling - I don't need two laptops. back to our regularly scheduled broadcast. Thanks, Mitchell From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 3 21:36:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA19663 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:36:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28330; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:30:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28108; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:30:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28095; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:29:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA21383; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:29:17 -1000 Message-ID: <000c01be07a3$5fa587e0$40c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Soulmann" , "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: [TPall] Thinkpad case repairs Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:29:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: This is my promised follow-up, giving my experiences using an ABS solvent adhesive to repair my TP case. First, I was unable to find the specific recommended adhesive (IPS/Weld-on #1707) anywhere I looked (Eastern Iowa and Northern Illinois including Chicago area). So, I tried the PVC/CPVC/ABS cement from the local True Value Hardware (do *not* use the PVC-only adhesive, make sure it has ABS on the label!) It grabbed and set quite quickly, and seems so far to be quite strong. The seam is almost invisible, as one would expect with a clear glue. Also, the solvent nature of the glue is such that the bond is very thin. I'm now waiting for the real test, whether it really stands up to being lugged daily back and forth from the office. The container is 4 ounces, I used less than one drop. Now I'm hoping something else will break (not on my ThinkPad!), just so that I can use more of the glue:-) So, the report is favorable. One caveat: the piece of case that broke off my 560 is entirely non-structural, in fact it just hangs over the hinge without touching anything, so in principle this repair doesn't seem to be a good test of the glue's stress resistance. On the other hand, the piece did break off the case for *some* reason... - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 4 07:29:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA05153 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20722; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:29:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:28:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20603; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:28:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from netgate.com.uy (r114-10.adinet.com.uy [207.3.114.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20590; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:27:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from bqlzpsrt (tc2-185.w3.com.uy [207.3.118.185]) by netgate.com.uy (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA24790 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:33:51 -0300 From: "Harry Teszler" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Suspend disappeard from my TP770ED Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:29:05 -0300 Message-ID: <000001be07ee$b68a9960$b97603cf@bqlzpsrt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Hello everybody. I have a 770 ED, WIN 98, and the latest Norton Antivirus and Norton Utilities installed. I had no problems, used suspend since I bought it. But yesterday when turning the machine on Windows showed a small window telling me that it had often detected problems by getting into suspend and if I wanted to correct that. There was only one botton to click, the accept one, so I clicked on it. Since then I can not get into suspend anymore. (Fn+F$, closing screen, and no more suspend option in the start menu) When I create the suspend file using windows energy properties, it tells me that it created it but everything remains the same. Can somebody help me ? Thanks in advance. ***************************************************************** Harry Teszler hteszler@netgate.com.uy ICQ#10971865 harryt@redfacil.com.uy Tel.: +598 2 2090884 Fax: +598 2 2030694 +598 2 2003996 Regards from Montevideo, Uruguay. ***************************************************************** From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 4 09:04:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA05910 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:04:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24364; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:03:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:02:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24232; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:02:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24214; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:02:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from 189.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.152.189]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981104140156.GJBM19605@189.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:01:56 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Re: Suspend disappeard from my TP770ED Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:01:40 GMT Message-ID: <36405db7.183283@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <000001be07ee$b68a9960$b97603cf@bqlzpsrt> In-Reply-To: <000001be07ee$b68a9960$b97603cf@bqlzpsrt> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:29:05 -0300, you wrote: >But yesterday when turning the machine on Windows showed a >small window telling me that it had often detected problems by >getting into suspend and if I wanted to correct that. >There was only one botton to click, the accept one, so I clicked on it. > >Since then I can not get into suspend anymore. >(Fn+F$, closing screen, and no more suspend option in the start menu) > >When I create the suspend file using windows energy properties, it tells= me >that it created it but everything remains the same. I don't know a solution (yet), but the same thing happened to me yesterday with my Sony. It failed to wake up from Suspend mode twice, and when I rebooted Windows prompted me to disable the feature and I can't get it back. Have you tried the Windows Annoyances site? epbrown=20 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 4 10:45:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07234 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29933; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:43:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29794; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.atl.mindspring.net (smtp1.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.128.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29778; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from diebold (user-38ldf69.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.188.201]) by smtp1.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA27706 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:43:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981104104301.007d23f0@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jdiebold@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:43:01 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jean-Pierre Diebold Subject: [TP770ED]: Windows 98? Ready for the move? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: It has now been a while since I purchased my 770ED and was wondering if it is time to move up to Windows 98? Any suggestions? Any 770ED owners happy with Windows 98, or should I wait a little? Thanks Jean-Pierre From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 4 10:46:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07257 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:46:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29834; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:41:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29601; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:41:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.atl.mindspring.net (smtp1.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.128.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29571; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:41:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from diebold (user-38ldf69.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.188.201]) by smtp1.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA27204 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:41:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981104104057.007d2e90@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jdiebold@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:40:57 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jean-Pierre Diebold Subject: [TP770ED]: Iomega Zip vs. VST Zip Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I called VST a couple of days ago to get some more information on their Zip drive for the 770ED. Even though their site claims that the unit is hot-swappable, their technical support group does NOT recommend it!? They also mentioned that they should remove that claim (hot-swappable) from their site! I guess I will stick to my Iomega Zip... Jean-Pierre From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 4 11:06:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07534 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:06:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01441; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:03:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:02:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01264; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:02:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from soderblom.net (root@corpisdn214.verioco.com [209.107.40.214]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01228; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:02:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from bsoderblom (corpisdn210.verioco.com [209.107.40.210]) by soderblom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA10896 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:02:17 -0700 From: "Brian Soderblom" To: Subject: RE: [TP770ED]: Windows 98? Ready for the move? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:00:21 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01be080c$39cb3100$d2286bd1@bsoderblom> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981104104301.007d23f0@mindspring.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 List-Unsubscribe: I've been running Win98 on my 770ED since I got it, a month or two ago. I'm happy with it so far, seems more stable then 95. One thing to keep in mind (and this may not be true for everyone) is that I've never been happy with the results of installing win98 over an existing win95 install - unstable, crashes often every time I've done that. Format the drive (or at least blow away all the appropriate directories and files) and do a clean install of 98. Brian > It has now been a while since I purchased my 770ED and was wondering if it > is time to move up to Windows 98? > > Any suggestions? Any 770ED owners happy with Windows 98, or should I wait > a little? > > Thanks > > Jean-Pierre > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 4 12:04:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA08593 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:04:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03009; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:28:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:26:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02736; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:26:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.atl.bellsouth.net (mail.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02723; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:26:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from skelley (host-209-214-84-18.ath.bellsouth.net [209.214.84.18]) by mail.atl.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA18811 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:26:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981104112847.00736820@pop.avana.net> X-Sender: scottk@pop.avana.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:28:47 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Scott Kelley Subject: The memory for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Who had the 32 meg memory chip for sale for a 385XD. I am very interested. Scott. Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" - Elanor Roosevelt "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" - Unknown "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find a rock." - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 4 12:31:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09146 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06828; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:30:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:27:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06500; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:27:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06487; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:27:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA14749; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:27:34 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:27:34 -0500 (EST) From: Michael To: Brian Soderblom cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: (OT) : Windows 98? Ready for the move? In-Reply-To: <000f01be080c$39cb3100$d2286bd1@bsoderblom> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: But if you don't want to blow you 95 install I've found if you come up in safe mode (after the 98 upgrade) and delete just about everything out of device manager and let Win98 redetect everything (5 or 10 reboots (: ) it's a lot more stable. YMMV... On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Brian Soderblom wrote: > I've been running Win98 on my 770ED since I got it, a month or two ago. I'm > happy with it so far, seems more stable then 95. One thing to keep in mind > (and this may not be true for everyone) is that I've never been happy with > the results of installing win98 over an existing win95 install - unstable, > crashes often every time I've done that. Format the drive (or at least blow > away all the appropriate directories and files) and do a clean install of > 98. > > Brian > > > It has now been a while since I purchased my 770ED and was wondering if it > > is time to move up to Windows 98? > > > > Any suggestions? Any 770ED owners happy with Windows 98, or should I wait > > a little? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jean-Pierre > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 4 12:48:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09435 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:48:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08033; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:46:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07943; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07931; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:46:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811041746.MAA07931@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Thu, 3 Nov 1988 10:42:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Thinkpad mailing list" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:46:04 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: linux XFree on a tp750 List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I've recently installed linux on ye olde tp750. I intend to use it as a home file, print and modem server. All works fine, except that it can't seem to keep up with mouse events. when I click the mouse button I get unpredictable characters sent. This makes X pretty useless. Any tips? Should I give up on x and run character based? The XF86Config file knows this as a ps2 2 button mouse with 3 button emulation. I have 20 megs of ram. Thanks! -Victor ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 4 15:52:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA12147 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19565; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:39:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18823; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:39:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18805; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:39:27 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id CZZMa02302 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:38:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:38:37 EST To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: 770 UltraBay II & Iomega Internal ZIP Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: IBM issued a new "TP 600,770 - UltraBay Utility Driver Diskette for Windows 95/98" on October 29. It's available at: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3TZPJ4.html I installed it but can't tell that it resolved any of my issues with the Iomega Internal ZIP. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 4 15:59:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA12247 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:59:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20225; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:57:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:56:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20111; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:56:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.jud.ca.gov (mx.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.222]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20082; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:56:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (host-220.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.220] (may be forged)) by mx.jud.ca.gov (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA25941 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:53:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.11 Enterprise) id 00001097; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:55:11 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:46:59 -0800 Message-ID: <00001097.1225@aoc.jud.state.ca.us> From: Mitchell_Yee@aoc.jud.state.ca.us (Mitchell Yee) Subject: re: FS 701C + Dock II has been sold To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part List-Unsubscribe: thanks. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 4 17:54:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA13898 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21787; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:22:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:22:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21661; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.239.142]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21502; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:18:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from abtp ([199.179.172.78]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v03.02.02 118 115) with SMTP id <19981104211024.BVWN6156@[199.179.172.78]>; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:10:24 -0600 Message-ID: <001501be0838$a0feda80$4eacb3c7@abtp> Reply-To: "Aaron W. Brown" From: "Aaron W. Brown" To: , Subject: Re: 770 UltraBay II & Iomega Internal ZIP Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:18:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: >IBM issued a new "TP 600,770 - UltraBay Utility Driver Diskette for Windows >95/98" >on October 29. It's available at: > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3TZPJ4.html > >I installed it but can't tell that it resolved any of my issues with the >Iomega Internal ZIP. Sorry to hear that. Happy to see "Support for SuperDisk". From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 4 20:08:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA15888 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03972; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:05:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:04:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03890; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:04:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from bob.tri-lakes.net (bob.tri-lakes.net [207.3.81.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03865; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from [12.10.102.90] by bob.tri-lakes.net (NTMail 3.03.0017/) with ESMTP id ua319716 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:03:41 -0600 From: "JC Zalog" To: Subject: FS: ThinkPad Li-Ion Battery Pack (NIB) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:56:35 -0600 Message-ID: <000b01be0858$001e90e0$00010180@aptiva-e96> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: For sale: ThinkPad Li-Ion Battery Pack Part Number: 85G8554 (New In Box) This battery fits the TP755Cx and may fit other models. This battery is an extra since I sold my TP. This battery was purchased new 3/11/98, but was never used. The purchase price was $253.27 Will sell for $75 or best offer. JC Zalog Zalo9@tri-lakes.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 4 23:35:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA18550 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:35:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12190; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:34:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:33:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12098; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12086; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:33:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from [158.152.190.152] (helo=mrktng) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zbH6y-0000we-00 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:33:32 +0000 Message-ID: <36412A92.1E94@compuserve.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:33:22 +0000 From: Passion <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Reply-To: 100550.3170@compuserve.com Organization: gkl X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: How to ID memory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a Tpad 755CX and have a 16Mb SO DIMM module in the adapter... how do I find out whether it is Parity or Non Parity so as to order some more... Thanks From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 00:48:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA19253 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:48:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14487; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:33:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14351; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14333; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:33:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p45.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.108]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA19697; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:34:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811050534.VAA19697@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "100550.3170@compuserve.com" <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 98 21:32:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to ID memory List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:33:22 +0000, Passion wrote: >I have a Tpad 755CX and have a 16Mb SO DIMM module in the adapter... how >do I find out whether it is Parity or Non Parity so as to order some >more... > SO-DIMM in a 755? I don't think so. I think it uses a card similiar to a PCMCIA card, only thinner. And the memory I think is parity; I believe both the 750 and 755 used parity memory. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 01:28:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA20222 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:28:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15939; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:27:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:26:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15851; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:26:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk (helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.8.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15839; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from echidna (remote391.dialup.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.77.237]) by helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id GAA05883; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:26:25 GMT Message-Id: <199811050626.GAA05883@helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk> From: "Costas S. Iliopoulos" Organization: King's College London To: "Harry Teszler" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:27:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Suspend disappeard from my TP770ED Reply-to: csi@dcs.kcl.ac.uk CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal In-reply-to: <000001be07ee$b68a9960$b97603cf@bqlzpsrt> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: Dear Harry It happened to me a couple of times. It is very weird. The only cure that I know of is to re-install Win98. I uninstalled and then installed the thinkpad utilities but the "standby" sub-windows did not come back. When you try to wake the computer back you need >2 keystrokes. I found that 3 or more keystrokes (e.g .spacebar) usually hang my 365X. In fact, hiting shift and then keep moving the trackpoint, while waiting 1- 1.75 minutes for the Thinkpad to wake up, works for me without any trouble. The upper time limit of 1.75 minutes is required, when a 3Com PCMCIA card is plugged in - Win98 re-installs the 3-com drivers during that time. Cheers Costas Date sent: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:29:05 -0300 From: "Harry Teszler" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Suspend disappeard from my TP770ED > Hello everybody. > > I have a 770 ED, WIN 98, and the latest > Norton Antivirus and Norton Utilities installed. > > I had no problems, used suspend since I bought it. > > But yesterday when turning the machine on Windows showed a > small window telling me that it had often detected problems by > getting into suspend and if I wanted to correct that. > There was only one botton to click, the accept one, so I clicked on it. > > Since then I can not get into suspend anymore. > (Fn+F$, closing screen, and no more suspend option in the start menu) > > When I create the suspend file using windows energy properties, it tells me > that it created it but everything remains the same. > > Can somebody help me ? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > ***************************************************************** > Harry Teszler > > hteszler@netgate.com.uy ICQ#10971865 > harryt@redfacil.com.uy > > Tel.: +598 2 2090884 Fax: +598 2 2030694 > +598 2 2003996 > > Regards from Montevideo, Uruguay. > ***************************************************************** > > ______________________________________________________________________ Costas S. Iliopoulos Algorithm Design Group Tel: 44 (171) 873 2809 Dept of Computer Science Fax: 44 (171) 873 2851 King's College London Sec: 44 (171) 873 2588 Strand England http://www.dcs.kcl.ac.uk/staff/csi ______________________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 03:33:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA21726 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 03:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20353; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 03:32:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 03:31:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20221; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 03:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20183; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 03:31:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA02654; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:31:11 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199811050731.KAA02654@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "Brian Soderblom" , "Michael" Cc: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:29:28 -0200 (IZM) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: (OT) : Windows 98? 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Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNkGoODJjYwErN0xZAQG+9AQAo6OTJvQdo/leWUmJVvcG2lp2GH4C4Hr4 a7Zbp1tfgTVKWYqDNYaTqfrd8phvJHETbD+75szKN9j6jmzJLrWCFcm1bfbv+RWh Vt+Ag0unTKB2MyTOB31DPRX8I98yAF81a73ARyambFpvGv3crIzJSj79Q4szARb4 cdeiOrHTdiU= =ZOzG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 030: This License Has Expired; Please Purchase Another Copy From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 04:52:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA22285 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:52:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22871; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:50:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22776; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:50:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from devil.prz.tu-berlin.de (devil.prz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.62.214]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22748; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:49:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michey@localhost) by devil.prz.tu-berlin.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA14160; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:48:33 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: devil.prz.tu-berlin.de: michey owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:48:33 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Eyrich Reply-To: Michael Eyrich To: Paul Khoury cc: "100550.3170@compuserve.com" <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: How to ID memory In-Reply-To: <199811050534.VAA19697@stevie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: | On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:33:22 +0000, Passion wrote: | | >I have a Tpad 755CX and have a 16Mb SO DIMM module in the adapter... how | >do I find out whether it is Parity or Non Parity so as to order some | >more... | > | SO-DIMM in a 755? I don't think so. I think it uses a card similiar to a PCMCIA card, only | thinner. you are wrong, sorry. | And the memory I think is parity; I believe both the 750 and 755 used parity memory. The TP755cx can use parity and non-parity memory for the SO-DiMM adapter. I just upgraded from www.mcglen.com with a 16 MB SO-DIMM and it works great. http://www.mcglen.com/McGlenWeb/listItemsByModel.asp?SSID=2280299625E3032X703&u=.pv.www.shopper.com&MODELID=160&COMID=6&MIN=02&MAJ=09 PP16MTIBM750 16 MB Non-Parity SO DIMM $59.95 Add to Shopping Cart In Stock Regards, Michael PS: I am not connected to mcglen in any way ... -- Michael Eyrich, PRZ, TU-Berlin michey@prz.tu-berlin.de From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 05:55:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA22704 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:55:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA01071; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:50:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA00981; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:50:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA00958; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-6.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.6]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id FAA20212; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:48:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981105055112.01392410@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 05:51:12 -0500 To: "Paul Khoury" , "100550.3170@compuserve.com" <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: How to ID memory In-Reply-To: <199811050534.VAA19697@stevie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: There was an optional DIMM Adapter back when 32 meg IC DRAM cards were not available. The SO DIMM Adapter could take up to two 16meg DIMMs. With the advent of IC DRAM cards of 32meg capacity, these things were eventually phased out. FYI, most of the DIMMS sold now are non-parity. I would suspect the DIMM on your adapter is of a non-parity nature too. At 09:32 PM 11/4/98 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:33:22 +0000, Passion wrote: > >>I have a Tpad 755CX and have a 16Mb SO DIMM module in the adapter... how >>do I find out whether it is Parity or Non Parity so as to order some >>more... >> >SO-DIMM in a 755? I don't think so. I think it uses a card similiar to a PCMCIA card, only >thinner. > >And the memory I think is parity; I believe both the 750 and 755 used parity memory. > ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 06:14:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA22807 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01853; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:07:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01772; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01760; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:07:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp15-sally.atlantica.net (ppp15-sally.atlantica.net [206.63.195.79]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA00303 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 03:07:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <199811051107.DAA00303@www.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 98 03:19:52 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Kludge: TP365XD: Shutdown=Shutoff List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I thought I'd share a kludge I have on my TP 365XD. A while back a few others and myself wanted to know how to have our TP's shut totally off upon shutdown in OS/2. Well....the best solution/kludge I have now is to make a shadow on the desktop of the Power Management Icon under System Setup. If you right click on it there is an option for suspend and power off. Power off will shutdown OS/2 and power off the TP. I hope that helps some. I now want to make it a solution to have a single icon where I can double click on it and it'll shutdown OS/2 and power off rather than the two step method above. Maybe REXX?? Any really good REXX programmers out there?? =\ Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 08:09:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA23621 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:09:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04860; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:09:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:08:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04776; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (smtp4.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04758; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:08:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA53256; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:54:22 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA25876; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:03:09 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500022178924; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:05:09 -0500 From: Christopher Haun To: Cc: Subject: Re: Suspend disappeard from my TP770ED Message-ID: <5040500022178924000002L042*@MHS> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:05:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Press the Fn to wake up a ThinkPad. Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 csi@dcs.kcl.ac.uk on 11/05/98 01:19:02 AM Please respond to csi@dcs.kcl.ac.uk To: hteszler@netgate.com.uy cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Suspend disappeard from my TP770ED Dear Harry It happened to me a couple of times. It is very weird. The only cure that I know of is to re-install Win98. I uninstalled and then installed the thinkpad utilities but the "standby" sub-windows did not come back. When you try to wake the computer back you need >2 keystrokes. I found that 3 or more keystrokes (e.g .spacebar) usually hang my 365X. In fact, hiting shift and then keep moving the trackpoint, while waiting 1- 1.75 minutes for the Thinkpad to wake up, works for me without any trouble. The upper time limit of 1.75 minutes is required, when a 3Com PCMCIA card is plugged in - Win98 re-installs the 3-com drivers during that time. Cheers Costas Date sent: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:29:05 -0300 From: "Harry Teszler" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Suspend disappeard from my TP770ED > Hello everybody. > > I have a 770 ED, WIN 98, and the latest > Norton Antivirus and Norton Utilities installed. > > I had no problems, used suspend since I bought it. > > But yesterday when turning the machine on Windows showed a > small window telling me that it had often detected problems by > getting into suspend and if I wanted to correct that. > There was only one botton to click, the accept one, so I clicked on it. > > Since then I can not get into suspend anymore. > (Fn+F$, closing screen, and no more suspend option in the start menu) > > When I create the suspend file using windows energy properties, it tells me > that it created it but everything remains the same. > > Can somebody help me ? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > ***************************************************************** > Harry Teszler > > hteszler@netgate.com.uy ICQ#10971865 > harryt@redfacil.com.uy > > Tel.: +598 2 2090884 Fax: +598 2 2030694 > +598 2 2003996 > > Regards from Montevideo, Uruguay. > ***************************************************************** > > ______________________________________________________________________ Costas S. Iliopoulos Algorithm Design Group Tel: 44 (171) 873 2809 Dept of Computer Science Fax: 44 (171) 873 2851 King's College London Sec: 44 (171) 873 2588 Strand England http://www.dcs.kcl.ac.uk/staff/csi ______________________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 08:17:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA23683 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:17:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05458; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:17:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:16:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05370; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:16:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from orpheus.amdahl.com (orpheus.amdahl.com [159.199.101.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05356; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:16:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from minerva.amdahl.com([129.212.33.25]) (2520 bytes) by orpheus.amdahl.com via sendmail with P:smtp/R:match-mx-hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:16:26 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.102 1998-Aug-2 #1 built 1998-Aug-14) Received: from cliffy.eng.amdahl.com by minerva.amdahl.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0zbPGt-0001DKC; Thu, 5 Nov 98 05:16 PST Received: from ladybug.M2_BLDG by cliffy.eng.amdahl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09639; Thu, 5 Nov 98 05:16:24 PST Received: by ladybug.M2_BLDG (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id FAA04461; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:27:44 -0800 From: czs00@eng.amdahl.com (Serenella Ciongoli) Message-Id: <199811051327.FAA04461@ladybug.M2_BLDG> Subject: Re: Suspend disappeard from my TP770ED In-Reply-To: <000001be07ee$b68a9960$b97603cf@bqlzpsrt> from Harry Teszler at "Nov 4, 98 09:29:05 am" To: hteszler@netgate.com.uy (Harry Teszler) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:27:42 -0800 (PST) Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL35 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Check article q188134 in the Microsoft Knowledge base: Standby Missing From Windows Shutdown Dialog Box. You can search for it at: http://www.microsoft.com/support. The article gives an explanation and a procedure to reactivate the suspend function. The procedure guides you thru removing then reinstalling APM support in the System Devices, Device Manager section of the Control Panel. Good luck. Serenella Ciongoli > I have a 770 ED, WIN 98, and the latest > Norton Antivirus and Norton Utilities installed. > > I had no problems, used suspend since I bought it. > > But yesterday when turning the machine on Windows showed a > small window telling me that it had often detected problems by > getting into suspend and if I wanted to correct that. > There was only one botton to click, the accept one, so I clicked on it. > > Since then I can not get into suspend anymore. > (Fn+F$, closing screen, and no more suspend option in the start menu) > > When I create the suspend file using windows energy properties, it tells me > that it created it but everything remains the same. > > Can somebody help me ? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > ***************************************************************** > Harry Teszler > > hteszler@netgate.com.uy ICQ#10971865 > harryt@redfacil.com.uy > > Tel.: +598 2 2090884 Fax: +598 2 2030694 > +598 2 2003996 > > Regards from Montevideo, Uruguay. > ***************************************************************** > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 12:33:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA27024 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:33:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19418; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:31:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:28:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19149; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19137; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:28:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA12290 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:28:49 -0600 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:28:49 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 365XD in bad shape Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I bought a cheap, broken ThinkPad 365XD and I'm trying to get it working. Any help will be appreciated. Most of the machine works, but not all. The current issue: The hard drive shipped with the machine is not recignized. Easy-Setup shows it as missing in the test section, so it will not even perform a test on the drive. (Booting from floppy works great, but drive C does not exist.) I have tried to use a Toshiba 1926FCV taken from my TP750P, but depending on how I have a jumper set, it either makes the machine lock up during boot, or also does not appear. The drive works fine in the 750P after this test. I have a Toshiba 2.1GB drive on the way. I have tried to get Toshiba's fax for jumper settings on this item, but their catalog appears screwy, so the document (2004) they say to use is of no help. Does anyone have this or a similar drive running in this or a similar ThinkPad? If so, do you have a jumper installed on the drive, and where? Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 13:13:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA27748 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21841; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:08:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:06:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21656; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:06:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (uhbhic.uhb.fr [192.134.240.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21468; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:05:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from nfwenaxa (cb1341.uhb.fr [192.134.240.30]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with SMTP id TAA02531 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:04:06 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3641E9A8.2F76@uhb.fr> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 19:08:40 +0100 From: Sylvestre Meininger Reply-To: sylvestre.meininger@Uhb.Fr X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: For Sale (in France) : ThinkPad 770ED (IBM Ref : 9549-5A0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi. I'm not sure whether I should post this only on Bill's Thinkpad Forum. Sorry if I'm doing something wrong here... Here we go : P-II 266 64 Mb SD-RAM 8.1Gb Hard Disk Modem 56k DVD Player Full Mpeg2 decoder 14.1" TFT screen (IBM Ref : 9549-5A0) Brand new, still more than 2 1/2 years of IBM international warranty. I live in Rennes (France). Mail me if you're interested. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 13:16:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA27815 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:16:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22236; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:11:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22007; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:11:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (uhbhic.uhb.fr [192.134.240.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21934; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from nfwenaxa (cb1341.uhb.fr [192.134.240.30]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with SMTP id TAA22785 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:10:06 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3641EB10.1C07@uhb.fr> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 19:14:40 +0100 From: Sylvestre Meininger Reply-To: sylvestre.meininger@Uhb.Fr X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Is 770x out ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I didn't check the list for some time and I was just wondering if anyone knows Bill Morrow's price for the 770x (7A0) Thanks ! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 14:35:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA29057 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27319; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:33:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:32:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27180; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:32:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.eclipse.net (root@mail.eclipse.net [207.207.192.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27162; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:31:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from cnj1-04-188.eclipse.net (cnj1-04-188.eclipse.net [207.207.243.188]) by mail.eclipse.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA19487 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:31:50 -0500 (EST) From: mdash@plexsys.com (Michael D. Scheer) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: V.90 mwave upgrade available Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 19:31:47 GMT Message-ID: <3642fc25.799525@mail.eclipse.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: =46or the brave or foolhardy, there it is, on the IBM TP web site. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 16:16:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA00900 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03327; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:15:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:11:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03130; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:11:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03116; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:11:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA31178; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:06:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:06:51 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: new cardwizard for NT Message-ID: Organization: Yeshiva University MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: The Systemsoft cardwizard v4 for NT is now on the IBM web site. They list it as a download only for the the new 390 and 1720 models, but it works on all the older models as well and they didn't put any lock on it to prevent you installing it on other models. I upgraded the older version on my 380D and it is a huge improvement - I now can get hot insertion and removal of my 3COM 3c589 ethernet card, suspend and resume works with a network card installed and it doesn't break the network connection. I haven't tried yet with a modem connection - I know I always used to get Blue Screen of Death if I went into suspend with the PCMCIA modem connected. Hopefully that is fixed also. Installation is a little tricky. If you are going to do it follow these steps EXACTLY: Boot up NT without cards installed - now uninstall the old cardwizard, if you have the version before 3.03 then to uninstall you run the setup of the new version, otherwise use Add/Remove programs from Control panel. After uninstalling, reboot still without cards installed. Now install the new cardwizard version. Now reboot again and now you can install your cards. Play around with the notify options so you don't get the silly pop up windows every time you insert/remove a card. Josh From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 20:12:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA04133 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:12:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13347; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:54:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13052; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:54:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from cedar.netten.net (root@cedar.netten.net [205.244.191.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13037; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from dedra2 (net1-38.netten.net [206.229.193.38]) by cedar.netten.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA09885 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:54:00 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981105184546.00843100@mail.netten.net> X-Sender: shelby@mail.netten.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:45:46 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Larose Wynne Subject: Re: (770ED) Modem Update In-Reply-To: References: <3635F2A3.5CE2@uhb.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi Friends, and especially Vernon Wankerl (VWankerl@gwrr.com) This is an update about my query in October asking about attaching a H45 Quick Drive to my parallel port on a 760ED IBM Thinkpad. Thanks to all who responded with expertise and encouragement. Vern's step by step instructions were a great help, in fact without his help, I would never have been successful. The problem seemed to stem from bad floppy drive software that came with the H45. A friend of mine also purchased a H45. He used his disks and Vern's instructions and now all is working wonderfully. I was able to install Quicken and Family Tree Maker on the Quick Drive as I was running out of room on my 750 meg hard drive. I am now a happy camper. My next question is my keyboard is stiff and I have purchased a new keyboard and a serial mouse to use instead of my 760ED keyboard & Trackpoint (since I prefer using a mouse) unless I am traveling. I was thinking of going to the Features section, disabling TP keyboard and trackpoint and attaching new regular size keyboard & serial mouse. Has anyone tried this? Or is there another solution? Thanks for your anticipated comments, Larose Wynne shelby@netten.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 21:38:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA05133 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:38:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17036; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:35:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:32:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16862; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16850; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:32:30 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail.theriver.com (a27.pm3-29.theriver.com [206.102.195.91]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA17665; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:32:09 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199811060232.TAA17665@pantano.theriver.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 98 19:32:07 -0500 To: Larose Wynne , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19981105184546.00843100@mail.netten.net> Subject: Re: (770ED) Modem Update X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.40 List-Unsubscribe: In <3.0.1.32.19981105184546.00843100@mail.netten.net>, on 11/05/98 at 06:45 PM, Larose Wynne said: >I was thinking of going to the Features section, disabling TP >keyboard and trackpoint and attaching new regular size keyboard & >serial mouse. Has anyone tried this? Or is there another solution? You will need the special "Y" cable in order to connect both a mouse and keyboard to your 760ED. I bypassed this by buying a "NEW" DOCK II and connecting them to it. James -- -------------------------------------------- James Mckenzie, Team OS/2, Team Lora Still supporting OS/2 from version 2.0 NEW ADDRESS: os2support@theriver.com New rates for unsolicited e-mails: Any unsolicited e-mails will be charged $3000/KB, $5000 min. -------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 21:39:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA05149 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17346; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:38:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:36:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17106; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:36:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from cedar.netten.net (root@cedar.netten.net [205.244.191.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17083; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:35:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from dedra2 (net1-38.netten.net [206.229.193.38]) by cedar.netten.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA16469; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:35:36 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981105203101.008498b0@mail.netten.net> X-Sender: shelby@mail.netten.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 20:31:01 -0600 To: os2support@theriver.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Larose Wynne Subject: Re: (770ED) Modem Update In-Reply-To: <199811060232.TAA17665@pantano.theriver.com> References: <3.0.1.32.19981105184546.00843100@mail.netten.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi James, where would I purchase the "y" cable and is it expensive? Thanks so much for your reply Larose Wynne At 07:32 PM 11/5/98 -0500, os2support@theriver.com wrote: >In <3.0.1.32.19981105184546.00843100@mail.netten.net>, on 11/05/98 > at 06:45 PM, Larose Wynne said: > >>I was thinking of going to the Features section, disabling TP >>keyboard and trackpoint and attaching new regular size keyboard & >>serial mouse. Has anyone tried this? Or is there another solution? > >You will need the special "Y" cable in order to connect both a mouse >and keyboard to your 760ED. I bypassed this by buying a "NEW" DOCK II >and connecting them to it. > >James > >-- >-------------------------------------------- >James Mckenzie, Team OS/2, Team Lora >Still supporting OS/2 from version 2.0 >NEW ADDRESS: os2support@theriver.com >New rates for unsolicited e-mails: >Any unsolicited e-mails will be charged $3000/KB, $5000 min. >-------------------------------------------- > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 22:18:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA05648 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:18:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19243; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:17:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:14:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19069; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from vex.net (vex.net [198.96.119.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19056; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:14:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (1167 bytes) by vex.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:14:37 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #3 built 1997-Oct-29) Received: from vex.net(198.96.119.193) via SMTP by vex.net, id smtpd13605a; Thu Nov 5 22:14:31 1998 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:14:31 -0500 (EST) From: Golan Klinger To: Thinkpad List Subject: Info need about 701 'butterfly'. In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19981105203101.008498b0@mail.netten.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I came across a Thinkpad 701 (SX4/75, 8/540, 10.4" TFT) for what I felt was a pretty low price ($250) so I bought the thing. Not a bad little machine and I'm sure I'll find a use for it. I just need to expand the RAM so I'm curious how much RAM a 701 will take and where the best (read least expensive) place to get RAM is these days? TIA. Golan Klinger [falco@vex.net] For long you live and high you fly And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry Good, fast or cheap. And all you touch and all you see Pick two... Is all your life will ever be From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 6 08:19:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA10676 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:19:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12794; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:19:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:17:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12687; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:17:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12665; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA85604; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:59:00 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA56840; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:12:29 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500022238994; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:14:22 -0500 From: Christopher Haun To: Cc: Subject: Re: Info need about 701 'butterfly'. Message-ID: <5040500022238994000002L042*@MHS> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:14:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: My 701 has 40 megs of RAM in it. I bought a 32 meg module from Viking Components for about $100.00 Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 falco@vex.net on 11/05/98 10:08:25 PM Please respond to falco@vex.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: Info need about 701 'butterfly'. I came across a Thinkpad 701 (SX4/75, 8/540, 10.4" TFT) for what I felt was a pretty low price ($250) so I bought the thing. Not a bad little machine and I'm sure I'll find a use for it. I just need to expand the RAM so I'm curious how much RAM a 701 will take and where the best (read least expensive) place to get RAM is these days? TIA. Golan Klinger [falco@vex.net] For long you live and high you fly And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry Good, fast or cheap. And all you touch and all you see Pick two... Is all your life will ever be From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 6 08:33:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA10756 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:33:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13615; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:32:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:31:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13429; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:31:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13404; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:30:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA12006 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:30:55 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199811061330.PAA12006@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:30:26 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <5040500022238994000002L042*@MHS> Subject: Re: Info need about 701 'butterfly'. X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.50 b48 List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 at 08:14 AM you, Christopher Haun , said: >My 701 has 40 megs of RAM in it. I bought a 32 meg module from Viking >Components for about $100.00 The Chip Merchant.com sells the TP701 32 MB module for $61 (see http://www.thechipmerchant.com/complete.htm#Laptop Memory) Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 6 10:23:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA11733 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20482; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:21:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:15:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19600; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:15:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (mcfs.whowhere.com [209.1.236.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19587; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:15:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by my-dejanews.com; Fri Nov 6 07:11:41 1998 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 07:11:41 -0700 From: "Soulmann" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Command line configurator? X-Sender-Ip: 129.15.92.108 Organization: Deja News Mail (http://www.my-dejanews.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello there, Looking for the PS.exe or PS2.exe program that allows one to configure thinkpad from DOS. URL or FTP? Command to enable attachment of floppy after bootup on a 760? Thanks -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 6 10:30:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA11822 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21249; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:26:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21156; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:26:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21115; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:26:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA46594; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:08:09 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA20722; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:21:38 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500022246149; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:23:30 -0500 From: Christopher Haun To: Cc: Subject: Re: Command line configurator? Message-ID: <5040500022246149000002L092*@MHS> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:23:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: it is PS2.exe and is usually part of the Thinkpad utilities for DOS. You can get the DOS utilitiy disk at: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/RMIE-3AXE3E.html Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 soulmann@my-dejanews.com on 11/06/98 10:36:22 AM Please respond to soulmann@my-dejanews.com To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: Command line configurator? Hello there, Looking for the PS.exe or PS2.exe program that allows one to configure thinkpad >from DOS. URL or FTP? Command to enable attachment of floppy after bootup on a 760? Thanks -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 6 11:04:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA12312 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:04:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23278; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:03:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:02:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23127; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx (cortes.cibnor.mx [200.23.161.225]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23109; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:01:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx by cortes.cibnor.mx id aa03434; 6 Nov 98 9:00 MST Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:00:51 -0700 (MST) From: Larry Miller To: ThinkPad Mailing List cc: "Larry Miller [DT]" Subject: USB Keyboard Win95 385XD In-Reply-To: <004a01be06df$a319c000$f53cfad0@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, Folks-- Well, I just got back from the 'States with a new Microsoft "wavy" external PS2/USB keyboard for my 385XD running Win95, and... sigh. I can't get Win95 to recognize it. I'd like to run that keyboard in USB mode if I can, and am not ready for Win98 yet. Anybody know if there are drivers out there that would make this possible? Thanks-- Larry Larry Miller Centro De Investigaciones Biologicas La Paz, BCS Mexico From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 6 12:04:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA13163 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:04:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27486; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:59:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27185; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.atl.bellsouth.net (mail.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27173; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:58:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from skelley (host-209-214-84-100.ath.bellsouth.net [209.214.84.100]) by mail.atl.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA00779 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:58:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981106120125.006c8950@pop.avana.net> X-Sender: scottk@pop.avana.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:01:25 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Scott Kelley Subject: Infrared. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Any trick to getting Infrared to work? Have a 385XD. Trying to connect to a sharp Mobilon HC-4500. Can't seem to get the two to communicate. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Scott Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" - Elanor Roosevelt "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" - Unknown "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find a rock." - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 6 12:27:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA13495 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:27:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29146; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:24:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28961; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:24:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.inreach.com (mail.inreach.com [209.142.0.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28946; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:23:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from jerryray (209-142-12-156.stk.inreach.net [209.142.12.156]) by mail.inreach.com (8.8.8/8.8.6/(InReach)) with ESMTP id JAA02336 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:13:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811061713.JAA02336@mail.inreach.com> Reply-To: From: "Janice Ray" To: "thinkpad" Subject: Notebook for sale Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:19:22 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, Just a quick note, I have a IBM Thinkpad 500 for sale on ebay auction. 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Thanks Janice djmusic@inreach.com http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=40352085 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 6 13:50:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14770 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03974; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:45:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:43:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03799; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:43:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from dewdrop2.mindspring.com (dewdrop2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03749; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from jpd (user-38ldd61.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.180.193]) by dewdrop2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA07826 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:43:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981106134213.007b8810@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jdiebold@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:42:13 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jean-Pierre Diebold Subject: [TP770ED]: Internal Modem will only connect at 32000bps Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi everybody, Since I got my 770ED, my internal modem has only been able to connect at 32000bps, even after all the upgrades available (v2.36). Technical support and I tried everything without success. I also verified that my throughput was consistent with the connect speed and it is indeed! I decided to wait for the v.90 upgrade! I upgraded to v.90 and my modem still connects at 32000. Keep in mind though that the modem is connecting using all the protocols (v.90 v.42bis etc...). So at least I know that the modem is connecting using all the right protocols. BUT it is still stuck at 32000. I decided to move up to Windows 98. I formatted my hard drive and performed a clean install of Windows 98. Evrything worked out perfect. BUT the modem still connects at 32000!?? It is so suspiciously consistent though! always 32000 exactly. I asked Tech Support if they had any registers (i.e. Sxx=xx) available but the answer was no. So they decided to send my laptop in for service. Before I send my laptop in does anyone have any last minute suggestions? Jean-Pierre From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 6 14:00:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA14947 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:00:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04861; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:57:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04772; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:56:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (smtp4.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04757; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:56:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA73120; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:43:18 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA59440; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:52:05 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500022257538; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:53:56 -0500 From: Christopher Haun To: Cc: Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: Internal Modem will only connect at 32000bps Message-ID: <5040500022257538000002L082*@MHS> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:53:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: you might try ATS95=3 Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 jdiebold@mindspring.com on 11/06/98 01:36:40 PM Please respond to jdiebold@mindspring.com To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: [TP770ED]: Internal Modem will only connect at 32000bps Hi everybody, Since I got my 770ED, my internal modem has only been able to connect at 32000bps, even after all the upgrades available (v2.36). Technical support and I tried everything without success. I also verified that my throughput was consistent with the connect speed and it is indeed! I decided to wait for the v.90 upgrade! I upgraded to v.90 and my modem still connects at 32000. Keep in mind though that the modem is connecting using all the protocols (v.90 v.42bis etc...). So at least I know that the modem is connecting using all the right protocols. BUT it is still stuck at 32000. I decided to move up to Windows 98. I formatted my hard drive and performed a clean install of Windows 98. Evrything worked out perfect. BUT the modem still connects at 32000!?? It is so suspiciously consistent though! always 32000 exactly. I asked Tech Support if they had any registers (i.e. Sxx=xx) available but the answer was no. So they decided to send my laptop in for service. Before I send my laptop in does anyone have any last minute suggestions? Jean-Pierre From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 6 21:23:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA21089 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:23:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27497; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:17:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27287; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:17:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from crg-gw.Stanford.EDU (root@crg-gw.Stanford.EDU [171.65.32.201]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27274; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:17:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from snet-gate.Stanford.EDU (jgo@snet-gate.Stanford.EDU [171.65.32.208]) by crg-gw.Stanford.EDU (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA02098 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jgo@localhost) by snet-gate.Stanford.EDU (8.9.0.Beta5/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA22980 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:13:55 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: snet-gate.Stanford.EDU: jgo owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:13:54 -0800 (PST) From: "John G. Olyarchuk" X-Sender: jgo@snet-gate Reply-To: "John G. Olyarchuk" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP770X] Opinions on quality of 13.7in 1280x1024 LCD? In-Reply-To: <5040500022257538000002L082*@MHS> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, If someone has purchased or seen the new 13.7in 1280x1024 resolution LCD display on the TP770X, could you please comment on the quality of the image, brightness/contrast, pixel size, etc. Also, the IBM web site lists the maximum external resolution as 1280x1024x64K for both the 14.1 in and the 13.7in, even though the former has 4MB of video ram and the latter has 8MB. Is this correct? I would expect that 8MB would provide 1280x1024x16M both internal and external. Thanks, John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 6 22:17:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA21691 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:17:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29696; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:16:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:14:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29531; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from send104.yahoomail.com (send104.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.122]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29516; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:14:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981107031438.9352.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Received: from [24.0.34.12] by send104.yahoomail.com; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 19:14:38 PST Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 19:14:38 -0800 (PST) From: H Doan Subject: Re: new cardwizard for NT To: Joshua Hosseinof , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Are you using SP3 or Service Pack 4. lastly, can I use it on a 560E? I have a perfect SP4 setup and don't want to risk it... ---Joshua Hosseinof wrote: > > The Systemsoft cardwizard v4 for NT is now on the IBM web site. They list _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 6 23:54:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA22302 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 23:54:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02783; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 23:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 23:51:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02671; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 23:51:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02659; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 23:51:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer ([12.77.216.48]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981107045112.SYGS2310@oemcomputer>; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 04:51:12 +0000 Message-ID: <3643D1E1.4DE3@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 23:51:45 -0500 From: Birger Petterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John G. Olyarchuk" CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP770X] Opinions on quality of 13.7in 1280x1024 LCD? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > If someone has purchased or seen the new 13.7in 1280x1024 resolution LCD > display on the TP770X, could you please comment on the quality of the > image, brightness/contrast, pixel size, etc. > All I can say is WOW! IBM is to be congratulated on producing the best ThinkPad that they have ever produced. This is a five star ThinkPad. To those of you who have been discussing resolution and fonts, I feel that that is all for naught. What must be used in selecting a screen, is the ppi that the screen produces. Pixels per inch. The majority of screens and monitors are only capable of 72 ppi. Taking this into consideration, Microsoft sets up their program sizes, icon sizes, for the best viewing in their consideration based on 72 ppi. So if you need to fiddle around a bit with your sizes and your icon sizes, it is because you have a leading edge screen. DVD runs splendidly. IBM ViaVoice 98 Executive voice dictation program runs superbly. It is a pleasure to view photographs. For map viewing and CAD CAM it should be outstanding. If you wish to view the output when attached to a television set, you will need to purchase the DVD and enhanced video adapter. There are changes from the 770-1 A U ThinkPad, so be sure to read the manual. The ultrabay is a wee bit larger. How do I know? The ZIP drive fits in without coaxing . In regard to the DVD region code. >From my understanding, you can select any of the six regions. You'll must select a region to play DVD content. After you have selected a region, you can't play content only from that region. An incorrect region code setting causes your computer to hang; you can recover your computer only with the recovery CD. In other words. If the first DVD you play is from a region other the then the region you selected, your system will no longer play DVD content. Recover your system using the recovery CD. So I guess if you need to play from two regions you will need two hard disk drives. You can set the region code when you start DVD Express for the first time. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 6 23:55:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA22319 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 23:55:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03072; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 23:54:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 23:54:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02961; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 23:54:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02896; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 23:54:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer ([12.77.216.48]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981107045333.SZAY2310@oemcomputer>; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 04:53:33 +0000 Message-ID: <3643D26E.6407@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 23:54:06 -0500 From: Birger Petterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John G. Olyarchuk" CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP770X] Opinions on quality of 13.7in 1280x1024 LCD? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: go to http://www.thinkpads.com Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 7 20:34:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA01651 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:34:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08300; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:31:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08197; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08176; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:31:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.75]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA19746; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:31:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811080131.RAA19746@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Christopher Haun" , "falco@vex.net" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 07 Nov 98 17:30:06 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Info need about 701 'butterfly'. List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:14:22 -0500, Christopher Haun wrote: >My 701 has 40 megs of RAM in it. I bought a 32 meg module from Viking >Components for about $100.00 I think that The Chip Merchant has it for under $60. I'd like to upgrade, but for the cost, I don't need it. BTW, for those wondering about NT on a 701, it runs great, and has exceeded my expectations for being on a 24MB system. :) I even got SP4 installed. Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, and Newton OS 1.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 7 21:54:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA02472 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10136; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:51:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09942; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09930; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:51:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.211.65.96] (p33.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.96]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA24003; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 18:51:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811080251.SAA24003@stevie.loop.com> X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 1.1 for Newton Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 18:45:00 -0800 To: "djmusic@inreach.com" From: Paul Khoury Subject: Re: Info need about 755CD Cc: List ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: I believe the 755 has 2 type II slot, and the modem should be 28.8K at the most. Maximum RAM should be 40MB. --- begin quoted text Hello I believe you have a IBM 755,if not disregard. I just purchased a IBM 755cd from bg micro with docking station and all acessories for $400.00 delivered to me. Do you know what modem it has PCMCIA type 2 ? And maximum memory? I have not received it yet. Any help would be helpfull. Thanks Janice djmusic@inreach.com ---------- > From: Paul Khoury > To: Christopher Haun ; falco@vex.net > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Info need about 701 'butterfly'. > Date: Saturday, November 07, 1998 9:30 AM > > On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:14:22 -0500, Christopher Haun wrote: > > >My 701 has 40 megs of RAM in it. I bought a 32 meg module from Viking > >Components for about $100.00 > > I think that The Chip Merchant has it for under $60. I'd like to upgrade, but for the cost, > I don't need it. > > BTW, for those wondering about NT on a 701, it runs great, and has exceeded my expectations > for being on a 24MB system. :) > > I even got SP4 installed. > > Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html > http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, > Mac OS 7.5.3, and Newton OS 1.0 > --- end quoted text Sent from my Apple Newton 130 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 7 22:58:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA03055 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 22:58:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11582; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 22:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 7 Nov 1998 22:57:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11486; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 22:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11474; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 22:57:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p09.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.72]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA27575; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 19:55:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811080355.TAA27575@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Brian Soderblom" , "Michael" , "turgut kalfaoglu" Cc: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 07 Nov 98 19:54:30 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: (OT) : Windows 98? Ready for the move? List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:29:28 -0200 (IZM), turgut kalfaoglu wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:27:34 -0500 (EST), Michael wrote: >>But if you don't want to blow you 95 install I've found if you come up in >>safe mode (after the 98 upgrade) and delete just about everything out >>of device manager and let Win98 redetect everything (5 or 10 reboots (: ) > >And get ready to keep doing these re-installs every 3 months or so. >I found out that was the only way for me to install some devices. Or you could install Windows NT 4.0, give up APM and lose some PCMCIA fuctionality, and have a rock solid machine. Of course, like everything here except the SPARC, NT still crashes... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 7 23:26:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03329 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 23:26:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12470; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 23:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 7 Nov 1998 23:23:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12317; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 23:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12302; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 23:23:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp300 (1Cust106.tnt8.lax3.da.uu.net [153.37.75.106]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with SMTP id UAA29626 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:23:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981107201749.00b2a100@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 20:22:57 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: [TP 380Z] Problem with audio mic jack? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I've got a brand new ThinkPad 380Z (PII-300, 96MB) that I've had for less than 2 full weeks. Today I tried doing some audio recording using the mike and speaker jacks on the side. The speaker jack works fine, but the mike jack seems to be slightly out of wack. If I insert the mike jack all the way (just like I do for the speaker jack), then the external mike is TOTALLY DEAF! However, if I put the mike jack in all but the last 1/16" (or so), then the external microphone seems to work just fine. Unfortunately, I have to fiddle with the jack until I get it just right before I can start recording. Does anybody else have this problem on a 380Z? How about on other ThinkPad models? I can't afford to lose the machine for a week while I send it in for repair. Is there any alternative (other than live with the problem)? Thanks in advance. -- /=================================================================\ | David Goldman | My business motto is: | | IVR@DGoldman.Com | Choose any two: [ ] Fast | | | [ ] Cheap | | Ask me for my PGP key. | [ ] Right | \=================================================================/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 01:06:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA04340 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 01:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15110; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 01:05:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 01:04:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14992; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 01:04:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14980; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 01:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer ([12.70.6.168]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981108060339.TVTZ4933@oemcomputer>; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 06:03:39 +0000 Message-ID: <36453457.4FC2@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 01:04:07 -0500 From: Birger Petterson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Goldman CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP 380Z] Problem with audio mic jack? References: <4.1.19981107201749.00b2a100@shell9.ba.best.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: David Goldman wrote: > > I've got a brand new ThinkPad 380Z (PII-300, 96MB) that I've had for- > If I insert the mike jack all the way (just like I do for the speaker jack), You need ThinkPad Adapter Converter or Bias Battery Box. Go to www.speechcontrol.com to see photos and read article on mikes. Nothing wrong with your ThinkPad. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 10:48:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA08195 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:48:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02434; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:48:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:47:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02312; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:47:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02294; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:47:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from randolph (rer-2.pr.mcs.net [205.253.105.82]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id JAA22901 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 09:47:02 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981108093045.00965ef0@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: rer@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 09:46:59 -0600 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "Richard E. Robbins" Subject: [TP701] Source for Replacement Parts and Case Needed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have recently acquired a Thinkpad 701 C and would like to obtain a few replacement parts. Here's what I'm looking for: SO-DIMM Door Part 04H8337 PCMCIA Cover Part 04H8346 PCMCIA Filler Plug Part 04H8348 (I need two of these) Parallel Port Cable Part 04H8359 TrackPoint III Caps Part 39H1354 (I need at least three of these) In addition, I'd like to locate a case that was made for this machine. I think that both IBM and Port made cases specifically for the 701. If you have any of these items to sell or if you can point me to a vendor that can supply them I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. -- Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 10:55:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA08244 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:55:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02786; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:55:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:54:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02694; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from tubby.pacificcoast.net (uucp@tubby.pacificcoast.net [204.209.208.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02667; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:54:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tubby.pacificcoast.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) id HAA29577; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 07:41:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from usr1-52.gen.pacificcoast.net(139.142.98.52), claiming to be "ixswykpv" via SMTP by tubby.pacificcoast.net, id smtpd029544; Sun Nov 8 07:41:46 1998 Message-ID: <001701be0b30$10ec2600$34628e8b@ixswykpv> From: "D.G. (David) Stevenson" To: "Birger Petterson" Cc: Subject: TP560x and Shure Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 07:54:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: Birger, I just got a TP560x, was thinking of buying a Shure HW505 and ViaVioce to run on it. Any problems you know of with this combination ? Will I also need the power adapter for the TP. TIA David ----- Original Message ----- From: Birger Petterson Sent: Saturday, November 07, 1998 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [TP 380Z] Problem with audio mic jack? >David Goldman wrote: >> >> I've got a brand new ThinkPad 380Z (PII-300, 96MB) that I've had for- >> If I insert the mike jack all the way (just like I do for the speaker jack), > >You need ThinkPad Adapter Converter or Bias Battery Box. > >Go to www.speechcontrol.com to see photos and read article on mikes. > >Nothing wrong with your ThinkPad. > >Birger > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 13:28:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09256 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:28:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06469; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:27:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:24:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06349; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:24:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06337; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:24:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA03285; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 08:24:12 -1000 Message-ID: <001801be0b4d$714fe000$72c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: , "David Goldman" Subject: Re: [TP 380Z] Problem with audio mic jack? Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:24:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >then the external mike is TOTALLY DEAF! However, if I put the mike >jack in all but the last 1/16" (or so), then the external microphone seems >to work just fine. This is probably still your internal microphone; the external mic needs extra voltage. Get the ThinkPad mic adapter from www.speechcontrol.com . - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 14:51:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09891 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09244; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:44:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09002; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:44:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08990; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (163.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.163]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id OAA00341 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:44:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3645F4CB.67DC30A1@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 14:45:15 -0500 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad Subject: My personal 770ED is for sale References: <199811061713.JAA02336@mail.inreach.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I've been so bust selling the 770X i have had little time to get online here.. BUT, i want to let all know I am selling my 770ED its perfect.. price depends upon how much memory the buyer wants.. :-) p.s. no bad pixels -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 260meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver, Do not try this at home AND, GoodNIGHT, Mrs. Calabash, whereEVER you are... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 14:56:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09941 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:56:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09521; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:51:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:48:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09187; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09175; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:48:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (163.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.163]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id OAA00765; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:46:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3645F572.FAC4A949@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 14:48:02 -0500 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sylvestre.meininger@Uhb.Fr CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Is 770x out ? References: <3641EB10.1C07@uhb.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Sylvestre.. 770X is about $5709~ without the enhanced video adapter, add less than $250 (i need to check the price) for it.. Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > > I didn't check the list for some time and I was just wondering if anyone > knows Bill Morrow's price for the 770x (7A0) > > Thanks ! -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 260meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver, Do not try this at home AND, GoodNIGHT, Mrs. Calabash, whereEVER you are... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 15:16:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA10072 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:16:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10243; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:14:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:12:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10138; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:12:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10125; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:12:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (163.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.163]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id OAA01307; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:51:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3645F66C.B042D351@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 14:52:12 -0500 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Eyrich CC: Paul Khoury , "100550.3170@compuserve.com" <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: How to ID memory References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: WITHOUT GOING THROUGH ALL the posts.. you're ALL wrong or not reading or some or all of the above.. (sorry for sounding terse) the 755 series supported BOTH the DRAM CREDIT CARD memory and a DIMM adapter.. DIMM adapter could take up to two 16meg SO-DIMM's.. the largest DRAM card was a 32meg card.. all but the 755CX want Parity memory.. Michael Eyrich wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > > | On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:33:22 +0000, Passion wrote: > | > | >I have a Tpad 755CX and have a 16Mb SO DIMM module in the adapter... how > | >do I find out whether it is Parity or Non Parity so as to order some > | >more... > | > > | SO-DIMM in a 755? I don't think so. I think it uses a card similiar to a PCMCIA card, only > | thinner. > > you are wrong, sorry. > > | And the memory I think is parity; I believe both the 750 and 755 used parity memory. > > The TP755cx can use parity and non-parity memory for the SO-DiMM adapter. > > I just upgraded from www.mcglen.com with a 16 MB SO-DIMM and it works > great. > > http://www.mcglen.com/McGlenWeb/listItemsByModel.asp?SSID=2280299625E3032X703&u=.pv.www.shopper.com&MODELID=160&COMID=6&MIN=02&MAJ=09 > PP16MTIBM750 16 MB Non-Parity SO DIMM $59.95 Add to Shopping Cart In Stock > > Regards, > Michael > > PS: I am not connected to mcglen in any way ... > > -- > Michael Eyrich, PRZ, TU-Berlin > michey@prz.tu-berlin.de > -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 260meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver, Do not try this at home AND, GoodNIGHT, Mrs. Calabash, whereEVER you are... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 17:34:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA11276 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:34:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23434; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:32:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:30:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23042; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:30:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.jps.net (smtp1.jps.net [209.63.224.236]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22894; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:29:44 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from jps.net (209-239-197-140.oak.jps.net [209.239.197.140]) by smtp1.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13684; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:29:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36461B60.75AF88A7@jps.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 14:29:52 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Richard E. Robbins" , Thinkpad List Subject: Re: [TP701] Source for Replacement Parts and Case Needed References: <4.1.19981108093045.00965ef0@popmail.mcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Call IBM Tech support at 1-800-722-2227 to confirm you part numbers as they do change to the FRU (field replaceable units) numbers. Richard E. Robbins wrote: > > I have recently acquired a Thinkpad 701 C and would like to obtain a few > replacement parts. > > Here's what I'm looking for: > > SO-DIMM Door Part 04H8337 > PCMCIA Cover Part 04H8346 > PCMCIA Filler Plug Part 04H8348 (I need two of these) > Parallel Port Cable Part 04H8359 > TrackPoint III Caps Part 39H1354 (I need at least three of these) > > In addition, I'd like to locate a case that was made for this machine. > I think that both IBM and Port made cases specifically for the 701. > > If you have any of these items to sell or if you can point me to a vendor > that can supply them I'd really appreciate it. > > Thanks. > > -- Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 17:50:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA11439 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:50:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25463; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:49:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:48:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25217; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:48:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25137; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:48:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from bp ([12.77.216.21]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981108224744.IFSP10634@bp>; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:47:44 +0000 Message-ID: <36461FD6.54AE@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 17:48:54 -0500 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "D.G. (David) Stevenson" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP560x and Shure References: <001701be0b30$10ec2600$34628e8b@ixswykpv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: No sweat. Yes you will need a ThinkPad adapter converter or a bias battery box. Shure 505 darn good mike. Does not have noise reduction. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 17:58:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA11519 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:58:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26189; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:56:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26073; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:56:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26024; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from tnote.home.net (1Cust57.tnt3.dfw5.da.uu.net [153.36.194.57]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA24363; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:56:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001b01be0b6b$68541660$0201a8c0@tnote.home.net> From: "Teresa Selling" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , "thinkpad" Subject: 8.1 gig in 770 with Win95 solution Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:59:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I was wondering if BIll Morrow or anyone else has found a better solution for using an 8.1 gig drive in the 770. Right now I either have to use EZDrive to remap the drive or have windows use dos compatability mode. I was hoping there was a new driver for win95 that would allow setting up CHS or something... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 18:41:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA11974 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29260; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:38:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29149; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:38:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (smtp.thegrid.net [209.162.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29135; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:38:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 12970 invoked from network); 8 Nov 1998 23:38:37 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 8 Nov 1998 23:38:37 -0000 Received: from thinkpad-770e (oak-ts2-h1-50-26.ispmodems.net [209.162.50.26]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA11936 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:38:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <007701be0b70$cdca9140$1a32a2d1@thinkpad-770e> From: "The Grid" To: Subject: 770E & SelectaDock III Questions Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:37:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0074_01BE0B2D.BECD1DE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0074_01BE0B2D.BECD1DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Guys, I have a problem. I have TP 770E with SelectaBase770 and SelectaDockIII. = I can't undock it while hot. It says, that it has problems disabling the = device. I have STB Black Magic Voodoo 2 card, IBM Cell-Capable 56k PC = Card Modem, HP CD-R(W). Help.=20 Another thing. I don't know how, but I ended up scratching my IBM P72 = external monitor. I little peice of glass chipped off. Is there anything = I can do about it? Thanks, Alex ------=_NextPart_000_0074_01BE0B2D.BECD1DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Guys,
 
I have a problem. I have TP 770E = with=20 SelectaBase770 and SelectaDockIII. I can't undock it while hot. It says, = that it=20 has problems disabling the device. I have STB Black Magic Voodoo 2 card, = IBM=20 Cell-Capable 56k PC Card Modem, HP CD-R(W). Help.
 
Another thing. I don't know how, but = I ended up=20 scratching my IBM P72 external monitor. I little peice of glass chipped = off. Is=20 there anything I can do about it?
 
Thanks,
 
Alex
------=_NextPart_000_0074_01BE0B2D.BECD1DE0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 18:55:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12120 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:55:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28467; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:25:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:24:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28244; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:24:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28232; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA04144; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:23:33 -1000 Message-ID: <001101be0b77$4e24c940$a3c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: , "D.G. (David) Stevenson" Cc: Subject: Re: TP560x and Shure Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:23:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >Shure 505 darn good mike. Does not have noise reduction. I recently bought an Andrea ANC-100 for a ridiculously low price, something like $10. Not a great mike, but it *does* have noise reduction, which seems to make a huge difference on some voice apps (Birger Petterson could probably be more precise here). The place where I got the Andrea no longer sells them, but I'll bet they can be had elsewhere for a similar price - my guess is that there was a model update, and the older ones were dumped to liquidators. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 21:29:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA13798 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:29:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05112; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:26:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04979; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:26:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04966; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer ([12.70.16.197]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981109022533.LZQN10634@oemcomputer>; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:25:33 +0000 Message-ID: <364652BA.7E0B@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 21:26:02 -0500 From: Birger Petterson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Teresa Selling CC: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , thinkpad Subject: Re: 8.1 gig in 770 with Win95 solution References: <001b01be0b6b$68541660$0201a8c0@tnote.home.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: EZDrive can be set up to automatically do it all the time. My 8.1 with EZDrive works like a champ. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 22:42:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA14684 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:42:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07751; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:39:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:36:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07563; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:36:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07550; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:36:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from greasygirl (sfr-qbu-pqe-vty117.as.wcom.net [206.175.225.117]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA17965; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:35:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002f01be0b92$0758bf60$0201a8c0@greasygirl> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Teresa Selling" , "thinkpad" Subject: Re: 8.1 gig in 770 with Win95 solution Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:35:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I think with Windows 98 there is a new FAT system called FAT32x, which allows for BIG drives. It may have been added for Windows 95b, which never shipped as an update. On page 401 of the Windows 98 Resource Kit, it refers to partitions of up to 8gb and drives up to 2 terabytes in size. You should consider upgrading to Windows 98. David -----Original Message----- From: Teresa Selling To: Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com ; thinkpad Date: Sunday, November 08, 1998 2:57 PM Subject: 8.1 gig in 770 with Win95 solution >I was wondering if BIll Morrow or anyone else has found a better >solution for using an 8.1 gig drive in the 770. Right now I either >have to use EZDrive to remap the drive or have windows use >dos compatability mode. I was hoping there was a new >driver for win95 that would allow setting up CHS or something... > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 23:04:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA14866 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:04:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08730; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:02:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:01:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08633; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:01:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from valis.olywa.net (olywa.net [205.163.58.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08564; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:59:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from psynet.net ([208.1.124.30]) by valis.olywa.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-56662U5000L500S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:59:58 -0800 Message-ID: <364668B1.7D384EDC@psynet.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 19:59:46 -0800 From: J Organization: ear's mind X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: hearing double Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello Thinkpadettes. Any knowings on this?: at startup, I get the first chirp sound... then with windows, the second BEEP... well my 365xd BEEPS twice. Also when i resume out of suspend, it goes de do, do de, right? mine goes de do, do de......do de! They are coming to take me away Im sure. Seems like some kind of doubling...I suspect its in one of those pesky ini caves....but no luck in spotting. thanks all. james From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 8 23:24:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA15029 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:24:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09643; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:23:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:22:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09526; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09508; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA04560; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:21:57 -1000 Message-ID: <000f01be0ba0$f0e58880$36c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "J" , Subject: Re: hearing double Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:22:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >Also when i resume out of suspend, it goes de do, do de, right? >mine goes de do, do de......do de! Do you have any PC cards installed while this happens? This sounds like a card is either being recognized or its unexpected absence is being lamented. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 00:32:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA15821 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:32:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12490; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:25:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:24:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12358; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12329; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from wabio ([209.86.137.87]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA25939 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:23:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981109001005.00a0d560@mail.newsguy.com> X-Sender: wicket@mail.newsguy.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 00:23:26 -0500 To: From: Alan Wong Subject: Installing NT, Win 98 on TP 600 In-Reply-To: <000f01be0ba0$f0e58880$36c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I just received my TP 600 266mhz and would like some tips on doing this particular function. It came preloaded with 95 and I would like to format the HD and put NT and 98 on it. Logically, it's best to put 98 first and then install NT. However, since there unit supports one bay at each time......cd/floppy..what would be the best solution in regards to installing a OS from a formatted hard drive. BTW, I plan to purchase a 3com combo cardbus card to go with this unit. Does anybody have any experience with this card with this thinkpad. Any and ALL recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 02:56:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA17317 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:56:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14922; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:04:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14829; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:04:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14815; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:04:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p17.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.80]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA18985 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:05:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811090705.XAA18985@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sun, 08 Nov 98 23:04:04 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: NT programs List-Unsubscribe: I'd like to be able to remotely run programs on my NT 701 via this 701. Does anyone know where I can get a telnet server/daemon for NT 4? Also, an ftp server would be nice, too. Sorry for the OT post. Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 07:12:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA18993 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29174; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:11:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:08:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29033; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:07:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29011; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:07:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hetherington.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA13313; Mon, 9 Nov 98 07:07:21 EST Message-Id: <3646DABC.825D5696@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 07:06:20 -0500 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, Spoken Language Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Wong Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Installing NT, Win 98 on TP 600 References: <4.1.19981109001005.00a0d560@mail.newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You can have both the CD and floppy attached simultaneously on a 600. The floppy attaches externally in this case. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 08:52:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA19800 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02362; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:51:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:49:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02233; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:49:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02221; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:49:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:48:53 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-5.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id IAA09947; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:47:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3646F293.F2FFC87D@csc.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 07:48:03 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Wong CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Installing NT, Win 98 on TP 600 References: <4.1.19981109001005.00a0d560@mail.newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Alan, It's easiest to install NT onto a clean HD on the 600 by booting from the NT installation CD. That way you can completely format the drive with the NT setup and use whatever partition scheme you want. You need to go into EasySetup to change which device is first in line to boot. I don't know for sure, but this CD-ROM boot technique probably works for Win98 as well. Someone else can probably verify this, but I believe it is better to install NT first and then add Win 95/98. Apparently Win 95/98 is smarter about things and sets up the dual boot correctly. HTH, Rob ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob.bell@nospam@csi.com ----------------------------------------- Alan Wong wrote: > > Hello, > > I just received my TP 600 266mhz and would like some tips on > doing this particular function. > > It came preloaded with 95 and I would like to format the HD > and put NT and 98 on it. Logically, it's best to put 98 first and then > install NT. However, since there unit supports one bay at each > time......cd/floppy..what would be the best solution in regards to > installing a OS from a formatted hard drive. 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Be careful though, it overwrites the telnet that comes with NT with one that, IMHO, sucks. So rename the old one first... The ftp server, of course, comes with NT anyway, but the documentation that came with your NT will tell you that. axel PS: when will you finally run BeOS? you can get a demo CD for only five bucks or so - it rocks! Or are you out of computers? On Sunday, November 08, 1998 6:04 PM, Paul Khoury wrote: %I'd like to be able to remotely run programs on my NT 701 via this 701. Does %anyone know where I can get a telnet server/daemon for NT 4? %Also, an ftp server would be nice, too. Sorry for the OT post. % %Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS %http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html %Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, %Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 ............................................................................ . Axel Hartmann . . 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From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 11:15:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA21472 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08939; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:02:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:00:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08698; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:00:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from tubby.pacificcoast.net (uucp@tubby.pacificcoast.net [204.209.208.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08668; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tubby.pacificcoast.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) id HAA02386; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:47:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from usr1-49.gen.pacificcoast.net(139.142.98.49), claiming to be "ixswykpv" via SMTP by tubby.pacificcoast.net, id smtpd002330; Mon Nov 9 07:47:40 1998 Message-ID: <001a01be0bfa$151b6900$31628e8b@ixswykpv> From: "D.G. (David) Stevenson" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: NT programs Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:00:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: Paul, Try Tucows, they have both freeware and shareware versions for NT. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Khoury To: ThinkPad List Sent: Sunday, November 08, 1998 11:04 PM Subject: NT programs >I'd like to be able to remotely run programs on my NT 701 via this 701. Does >anyone know where I can get a telnet server/daemon for NT 4? >Also, an ftp server would be nice, too. Sorry for the OT post. > >Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS >http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html >Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, >Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 12:35:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA22651 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:35:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14170; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:25:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13850; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13783; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:23:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p29.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.92]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA26470; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:18:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811091718.JAA26470@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Axel Hartmann" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Mon, 09 Nov 98 09:21:22 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [OT] RE: NT programs List-Unsubscribe: >PS: when will you finally run BeOS? you can get a demo CD for only >five bucks or so - it rocks! Or are you out of computers? I don't have a PowerMac or PowerThinkPad to run it. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 13:23:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23658 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17107; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:07:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16758; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:07:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16725; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:07:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA06645; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:06:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:06:40 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: Alan Wong cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Installing NT, Win 98 on TP 600 In-Reply-To: <3646F293.F2FFC87D@csc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Alan Wong wrote: > > I just received my TP 600 266mhz and would like some tips on > doing this particular function. > > It came preloaded with 95 and I would like to format the HD > and put NT and 98 on it. Logically, it's best to put 98 first and then Before you start, you should be forewarned of a couple things. 1) 98 doesn't understand NTFS, and NT 4.0 SP3 doesn't understand VFAT (aka FAT32, the new file system 95OSR2 and 98 support). I think there's a third party driver out there which will let NT understand VFAT, and maybe SP4 does as well. Both can read plain FAT. 2) As far as I could tell, the NT 4.0 install CD doesn't let you drop to a shell. That means if your NT system is on NTFS and you hose it, you have two choices to fix it: A) fix it so you can access the partition so you can fix it (catch-22). B) have another bootable NT system handy somewhere. Good luck. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 13:32:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23812 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18290; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:23:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:21:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18115; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.jud.ca.gov (mx.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.222]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18094; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:20:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (host-220.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.220] (may be forged)) by mx.jud.ca.gov (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA22261; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:17:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.11 Enterprise) id 000027E7; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:22:50 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:14:50 -0800 Message-ID: <000027E7.1225@aoc.jud.state.ca.us> From: Mitchell_Yee@aoc.jud.state.ca.us (Mitchell Yee) Subject: Re: USB Keyboard Win95 385XD To: Larry Miller Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part List-Unsubscribe: having played with USB on my system all weekend, I might be able to offer a few pointers (forgive the obvious questions, but they need to be asked): 1. does your BIOS know about USB? Are the USB ports enabled? 2. you must be running OSR2 (Win95B) version. USB is not supported in the earliest versions of 95. 3. Win95B knows about USB, but you need to add the USB drivers, downloadable from the Microsoft site. It's hard to find, and if you can't find it, let me know. 4. Once you've done 1,2 and 3, USB works without a hitch. I've got a USB scanner working fine. Too bad I can't find USB drivers for NT 4.0. Mitchell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: USB Keyboard Win95 385XD Author: Larry Miller at Internet Date: 11/6/98 9:00 AM Hi, Folks-- Well, I just got back from the 'States with a new Microsoft "wavy" external PS2/USB keyboard for my 385XD running Win95, and... sigh. I can't get Win95 to recognize it. I'd like to run that keyboard in USB mode if I can, and am not ready for Win98 yet. Anybody know if there are drivers out there that would make this possible? Thanks-- Larry Larry Miller Centro De Investigaciones Biologicas La Paz, BCS Mexico From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 14:23:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24860 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:23:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15715; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:52:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15535; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:52:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15519; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:52:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA06501 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:52:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:52:22 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: NT programs In-Reply-To: <199811090705.XAA18985@stevie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > I'd like to be able to remotely run programs on my NT 701 via this 701. Does > anyone know where I can get a telnet server/daemon for NT 4? > Also, an ftp server would be nice, too. Sorry for the OT post. VNC is an all-around useful utility for displaying graphical Win/Mac/Unix apps on another Win/Mac/Unix platform. Kinda like X, but it also works with Windows and Macs. http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc/ -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 14:23:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24864 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:23:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18625; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:25:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:23:16 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18302; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:23:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA10323 for dist-thinkpad; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:23:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16795; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from greasygirl (GREASYGIRL.brightware.com [206.156.118.246]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA10732; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:07:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000601be0c0b$b76fe5d0$f6769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Paul Khoury" , "Axel Hartmann" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: [OT] RE: NT programs Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:06:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Runs on all Intel platforms. They have, in effect, abandoned Apple after Apple refused to give them access to the G3 hardware design team. Bu the BeOS CD and you will have a guaranteed antique. This puppy is going nowhere. David -----Original Message----- From: Paul Khoury To: Axel Hartmann ; ThinkPad List Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [OT] RE: NT programs > >>PS: when will you finally run BeOS? you can get a demo CD for only >>five bucks or so - it rocks! Or are you out of computers? > >I don't have a PowerMac or PowerThinkPad to run it. > >-- >Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 >http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html >Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 >ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 15:00:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25575 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:00:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23954; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:52:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:49:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23678; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:49:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23651; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:48:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg136-033.ricochet.net [204.179.136.33]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21451; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:48:18 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Alan Wong" , Subject: RE: Installing NT, Win 98 on TP 600 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:48:17 -0800 Message-ID: <005d01be0c19$e5844840$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981109001005.00a0d560@mail.newsguy.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > From: Alan Wong [mailto:sammy@newsguy.com] > > I just received my TP 600 266mhz and would like some tips on > doing this particular function. > > It came preloaded with 95 and I would like to format the HD > and put NT and 98 on it. Logically, it's best to put 98 first and then > install NT. However, since there unit supports one bay at each > time......cd/floppy..what would be the best solution in regards to > installing a OS from a formatted hard drive. As Lee mentioned, you can connect the floppy and CD at the same time, so you can use the normal NT or Win98 setup programs. Myself, I like to copy the setup files onto a directory on the hard drive and install from there. Then Windows never has to ask for the CD when I install additional components. > BTW, I plan to purchase a 3com combo cardbus card to go with this unit. > Does anybody have any experience with this card with this thinkpad. 3Com CardBus cards don't get along very well with ThinkPads running NT. I have had much better luck with Xircom cards. My experience is with the standalone 10/100 network cards, not combo cards, but somehow I doubt the 3Com combo card would work better. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 15:37:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA26157 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25637; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:18:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:16:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25470; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:16:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix1.seitz.de (unix1.seitz.de [193.102.72.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25243; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:12:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from seitz.de (asterix.seitz.de [193.102.73.2]) by unix1.seitz.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA53AD for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:11:03 +0100 Message-ID: <36474C69.3EF5FA74@seitz.de> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 21:11:21 +0100 From: "Adnan Mumbasic" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Status of Thinkpad 770 ED Suspend/Hibernation and Win98 References: <36466524.121821465@news.supernews.com> <3647173b.12820244@news.fullwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It=B4s easy to say MS is the problem, maybe MS is it (MS is nearly everytime the problem ;) ).=20 But ..... I have a new IBM TP770ED with Win95OSR2 and I have a Digital HiNote Ultra 2000 with Win95. On both systems I have the same software and I use the same PCMCIA cards (Xircom, 3COM). My Digital works fine, had never a prolem with suspending regardless of using the cards or not. My Thinkpad on the other fails to wakeup after suspending with or without a PCMCIA card. So it could be the Win95 OSR2 or IBM. I don=B4t know and it seems nobody else :( Adnan ThinkPadMan@gte.net wrote: >=20 > Our understanding is that this is strictly a Microsoft Win 98 problem > (excuse me, "feature," not a bug!) and that it is due to be fixed > any day now... >=20 > Stay tuned... >=20 > On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 03:46:44 GMT, hteszler@netgate.com.uy (Harry > Teszler) wrote: >=20 > >Does anybody know about the current problems. > >I have many of them and would like to know which is the situation > >about. > > > >Is IBM or/and Microsoft bringing something out for that ? > > > >Thanks in advance and regards. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 19:23:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA29774 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09534; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:00:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09131; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:00:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09118; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:00:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p10.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.73]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA10785 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:57:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811092357.PAA10785@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Mon, 09 Nov 98 16:00:05 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 3COM 3C589 on TP701/OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone got a 3COM Etherlink III PC Card (3C589) to work with OS/2 Warp 4 in a 701? I'm having problems with the driver loading, but the card passed diagnostics, and EasyPlaying for OS/2 finds it okay. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 19:55:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00281 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10928; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:43:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10789; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:43:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from valis.olywa.net (olywa.net [205.163.58.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10767; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from psynet.net ([208.1.124.89]) by valis.olywa.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-56662U5000L500S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:42:50 -0800 Message-ID: <36478BF6.1A206838@psynet.net> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 16:42:30 -0800 From: J Organization: ear's mind X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Ross CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: hearing double References: <000f01be0ba0$f0e58880$36c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: David Ross wrote: > > >Also when i resume out of suspend, it goes de do, do de, right? > >mine goes de do, do de......do de! > > Do you have any PC cards installed while this happens? This sounds like > a card is either being recognized or its unexpected absence is being lamented. > > - David R. Yes, two cards; my boca modem and an adaptec for my syjet. Yet, the 'beep' one hears when inserting a card is a different beep. And, there is definately some system doubling going on. the startup time is LONG and like I said, "starts up" twice. Is there a place I should look for duplicate commands? james From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 19:55:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00288 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:55:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11207; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:49:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:48:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11100; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (p57121.syspac.com [204.181.57.121]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11087; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:48:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0zd1ya-00014QC; Mon, 9 Nov 98 17:48 MST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 98 17:48 MST From: jones@pyrrhusoft.com (David Jones) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Dock II + 701 + OS/2 = No FDD access! List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone come across this problem: I have a Dock II with a 701 and cannot access the FDD under OS/2 Warp 4. I get a SYS0049 error. If I undock I can access the FDD and read the very same diskette successfully under OS/2. In addition, I am also running NT 4.0 and Linux on the same 701. Under those two operating systems I have no trouble accessing the FDD. Finally, I was never able to install OS/2 via the docking station. The installation stopped on the third diskette with the message: "OS/2 is unable to operate your hard disk or diskette drive. The system is stopped. Correct the preceeding error and restart the system". Incidentally, I installed NT and Linux via the docking station and of course the FDD. Mystified, David Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 20:00:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA00368 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:00:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11352; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:50:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:49:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11267; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:49:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11240; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:49:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA09045; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:49:28 -1000 Message-ID: <001301be0c4c$6c2a1e60$0db5ae80@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: NT programs Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:49:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Paul: >> I'd like to be able to remotely run programs on my NT 701 via this 701. Does >> anyone know where I can get a telnet server/daemon for NT 4? >> Also, an ftp server would be nice, too. Sorry for the OT post. John: >VNC is an all-around useful utility for displaying graphical >Win/Mac/Unix apps on another Win/Mac/Unix platform. Kinda >like X, but it also works with Windows and Macs. I use VNC regularly, and quite like it. You can also find several W95 rsh clients around (they will work faster on a slow link), e.g. at winfiles.com. Any decent shareware ftp client (e.g., wsftp) will also serve ftp. - David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 9 20:12:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA00514 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:12:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12468; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:02:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:01:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12302; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:01:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12276; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA09084; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:00:56 -1000 Message-ID: <003a01be0c4e$0613dce0$0db5ae80@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "J" Cc: Subject: Re: hearing double Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:01:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Me: >> Do you have any PC cards installed while this happens? This sounds like >> a card is either being recognized or its unexpected absence is being lamented. J: >Yes, two cards; my boca modem and an adaptec for my syjet. [snip] >Is there a place I should look for duplicate commands? First thing I would do is try without these cards to see if you get the same behavior. If not, then try to determine which card is the cause, and check with the manufacturer. My bet would be that one or the other loads some sort of driver at bootup, and somehow the driver gets lost at suspend (engendering 'card removal' beeps at resume) and is then reloaded. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 10 00:19:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA03548 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21860; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:11:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21694; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:11:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from swiss.direct.ca (swiss.direct.ca [199.60.229.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21673; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:10:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from newt-53-0183.direct.ca ([216.66.138.83] helo=direct.ca) by swiss.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zd64a-0007Bg-00; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:10:37 -0800 Message-ID: <3647CBBC.3453BAA1@direct.ca> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 21:14:36 -0800 From: Hale X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David W. Taylor" CC: Teresa Selling , thinkpad Subject: Re: 8.1 gig in 770 with Win95 solution References: <002f01be0b92$0758bf60$0201a8c0@greasygirl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I would advise thinking twice about using the FAT32 on Win98 (and it is in fact in the SR2, or B version of Win95. It will allow much larger drives without having to use partions or overlays, but in my experience it not without it's instability problems, eg. the "FAT"s seem to become corrupted much more frequently, and if you then use a util. such as scandisk to cleans things up, you often wind up with your entire directory structure, and most of your files trashed. This is compounded by the fact that FAT16 and FAT32 are not compatible, and you cant use your tried and true recovery software to attempt repair. You guessed it, the end result is Fdisk, reformat, and 3 or 4 days re-installing everything. Good luck, Hale David W. Taylor wrote: > > I think with Windows 98 there is a new FAT system called FAT32x, which > allows for BIG drives. It may have been added for Windows 95b, which never > shipped as an update. > > On page 401 of the Windows 98 Resource Kit, it refers to partitions of up to > 8gb and drives up to 2 terabytes in size. > > You should consider upgrading to Windows 98. > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: Teresa Selling > To: Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com ; thinkpad > > Date: Sunday, November 08, 1998 2:57 PM > Subject: 8.1 gig in 770 with Win95 solution > > >I was wondering if BIll Morrow or anyone else has found a better > >solution for using an 8.1 gig drive in the 770. Right now I either > >have to use EZDrive to remap the drive or have windows use > >dos compatability mode. I was hoping there was a new > >driver for win95 that would allow setting up CHS or something... > > -- ** Please remove the "NOSPAM" to E-Mail reply.** From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 10 02:01:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA04669 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 02:01:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24549; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:59:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:58:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24457; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from valis.olywa.net (olywa.net [205.163.58.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24444; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:58:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from psynet.net ([208.1.124.89]) by valis.olywa.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-56662U5000L500S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:58:10 -0800 Message-ID: <3647E3E9.F4934BE6@psynet.net> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 22:57:45 -0800 From: J Organization: ear's mind X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: What is where? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: After visiting IBM's site, I came away more confused than ever about their various new models. Does anyone know more of these? i series==model 1410 266mmx/32/3.2/20x/56k/12.1tft/track point iv >from IBM: 1499??! 390 series==20u 233mmx/32/3.2/24x/56k/12.1tft/trackpoint IBM 1,700. 380z 233mbl-pII/32/4/24x/13.3tft computability: $2169 hard to believe these prices. comments? james From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 10 02:43:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA05051 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 02:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25606; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 02:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 02:36:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25507; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 02:36:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from send1d.yahoomail.com (send1d.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.48]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25495; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 02:36:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981110073550.1490.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Received: from [24.0.34.12] by send1d; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 23:35:50 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:35:50 -0800 (PST) From: H Doan Subject: irDA, NT and Windows CE on a Thinkpad To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I am awaiting my Velo to come in the mail. I installed irDA for NT running on my 560E. Does anyone know if this will work... Have both of the machines talk to each other.. - HD _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? 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From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 10 09:39:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA09558 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:39:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14204; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:34:29 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13796; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id JAA17550 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:34:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15939; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:27:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA31904 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:26:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:26:58 -0500 (EST) From: Michael To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Cardbus Question.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hello.. Can a machine with a cardbus pcmcia ("i" 1720) use a 16bit card?? I have a few pcmcia network cards (16 bit) that work with my 701 and am wondering if thy will work on a cardbus machine?? I have a 1720 on order but I wont get it till Nov 24th or so. Thanks... Michael From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 10 10:52:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA10359 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:52:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18077; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:45:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:43:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17761; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:43:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.atl.bellsouth.net (mail.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17735; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:42:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from skelley (host-209-214-83-226.ath.bellsouth.net [209.214.83.226]) by mail.atl.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20309 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:42:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981110104108.00721200@pop.avana.net> X-Sender: scottk@pop.avana.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:41:08 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Scott Kelley Subject: 385XD Audio Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have a 385XD. My speakers work fine. However, when I plug anything in like headphones or external speakers, I need to turn all volumes on max (Physical volume knob, Mixer volume, etc...) just to get a reasonable sound out. Anyone experienced this. Scott. Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" - Elanor Roosevelt "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" - Unknown "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find a rock." - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 10 12:35:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA11738 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23744; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:17:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23470; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:17:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23189; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:13:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p30.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.93]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA03352 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:10:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811101710.JAA03352@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 98 09:13:16 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Home & Away and Etherlink List-Unsubscribe: Well, this is very surprising - I'm getting GREAT performance out of my Home & Away 14.4 card on my TP750, yet the new 3COM card I got doesn't work on either my 701 or 750. I'm almost wondering if it's a Windows only card. Has anyone here used a 3COM 3C589C in OS/2 at all? I'm also now wondering why I get bad performance when using my Home & Away on the 701. Maybe it would help if it's modem were COM1? I have the same setup as the TP750 BTW, IRQ 9, and an IO the driver picks. Thanks for all suggestions. BTW, I tried NT on my TP750. Actually loaded up pretty good, at least faster than 95. And that's a 486SL-33 with 20MB of RAM (OS/2 loads up yet quicker, but I was surprised at NT). Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 10 13:12:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA12159 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:12:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18069; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:45:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:43:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17785; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:43:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.atl.bellsouth.net (mail.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17747; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:43:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from skelley (host-209-214-83-226.ath.bellsouth.net [209.214.83.226]) by mail.atl.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20392 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:42:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981110104531.0074032c@pop.avana.net> X-Sender: scottk@pop.avana.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:45:31 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Scott Kelley Subject: Modem Sounds Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Have 385XD with 56K/Ibm PCMCIA card. Problem is that the modem sounds are either extremely loud or non existent. I have checked the modem setup and it has On/Off for the speaker. I have also tried L1 in the init string. Any other thoughts. Scott Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" - Elanor Roosevelt "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" - Unknown "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find a rock." - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 10 14:09:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA13078 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29973; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:54:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29223; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:54:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ares.actionwebs.net (root@ares.actionwebs.net [208.244.215.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29159; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:52:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from markl (customer-170.actionwebs.net [208.244.215.170]) by ares.actionwebs.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA10261; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:51:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:01:28 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE0CB2.9C76DCA0.mlemon@hickseq.com> From: Mark Lemon Reply-To: "mlemon@hickseq.com" To: "'David Goldman'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: [TP 380Z] Problem with audio mic jack? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:36:08 -0500 Organization: Hicks Equipment, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: On Saturday, November 07, 1998 11:23 PM, David Goldman wrote: > I've got a brand new ThinkPad 380Z (PII-300, 96MB) that I've had for > less than 2 full weeks. Today I tried doing some audio recording using > the mike and speaker jacks on the side. The speaker jack works fine, > but the mike jack seems to be slightly out of wack. Exactly the same problem with my TP600. I bought the ANC-600 headset, thinking the problem was the cheap headset I got at the 'puter store. It came with the magic adapter for the thinkpad. Fixed the above problem... However, 3 months later I now have to jiggle all the connections on the headset to get a voice signal. This stuff is designed cheaply. Mark From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 10 14:48:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA13580 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02347; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:38:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:36:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02191; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (smtp.thegrid.net [209.162.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02169; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:36:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14260 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1998 19:36:24 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 10 Nov 1998 19:36:24 -0000 Received: from thinkpad-770e (oak-ts2-h1-49-191.ispmodems.net [209.162.49.191]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA04369 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:36:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002301be0ce1$4c971fe0$bf31a2d1@thinkpad-770e> From: "Alexander Shikhmuradov" To: Subject: Unsubscribe Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:35:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01BE0C9E.3D4EE7E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BE0C9E.3D4EE7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BE0C9E.3D4EE7E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BE0C9E.3D4EE7E0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 10 15:43:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA14471 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05011; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:26:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:22:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04694; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from docws002.shl.com (docws002.shl.com [159.249.56.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04681; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com (ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.24]) by docws002.shl.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05405; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:23:41 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199811102023.NAA05405@docws002.shl.com> Received: by ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:19:28 -0500 From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: pkhoury@loop.com Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Windows Terminal Server - (was RE: NT programs) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:21:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Paul, How about running Window Terminal Server on NT & the client on the 701 in NT or 9x? Why restrict yourself to a character interface. I believe these are available for download from MS & the server will be built into Window 2000. Since it's only a screen painter, your innate speed will be that of the NT platform, which can run multiple users. There's also some Symantec product whose name I forget that takes over the host PC. Ciao,Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect Ottawa Global Delivery Centre, SHL Systemhouse an MCI Company :^*+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax:232-5182:^* *^} ttrottier@shl.com http://www.shl.com *^} *:)50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada*:) ~Questions answered, answers questioned~ ---------- From: John Kim [SMTP:kim@stormhaven.org] Sent: 1998 November 09 - Monday 12:52 To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: NT programs On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > I'd like to be able to remotely run programs on my NT 701 via this 701. Does > anyone know where I can get a telnet server/daemon for NT 4? > Also, an ftp server would be nice, too. Sorry for the OT post. VNC is an all-around useful utility for displaying graphical Win/Mac/Unix apps on another Win/Mac/Unix platform. Kinda like X, but it also works with Windows and Macs. http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc/ -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 10 16:07:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA14768 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:07:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07239; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:59:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06931; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:59:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.jud.ca.gov (mx.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.222]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06839; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (host-220.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.220] (may be forged)) by mx.jud.ca.gov (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA02400; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.11 Enterprise) id 00003274; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:02:24 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:54:30 -0800 Message-ID: <00003274.1225@aoc.jud.state.ca.us> From: Mitchell_Yee@aoc.jud.state.ca.us (Mitchell Yee) Subject: Re: Windows Terminal Server - (was RE: NT programs) To: pkhoury@loop.com, "TROTTIER; Tom" Cc: ThinkPad List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part List-Unsubscribe: the Symantec product is PCAnywhere, which runs on Windows clients (all flavors). The problem with this product is that Paul would then have to run some sort of Microsoft OS on his systems and then 1) have to lengthen his .sig; 2) contaminate at least two of his systems with Micro$oft. Mitchell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Windows Terminal Server - (was RE: NT programs) Author: "TROTTIER; Tom" at Internet Date: 11/10/98 3:21 PM Paul, How about running Window Terminal Server on NT & the client on the 701 in NT or 9x? Why restrict yourself to a character interface. I believe these are available for download from MS & the server will be built into Window 2000. Since it's only a screen painter, your innate speed will be that of the NT platform, which can run multiple users. There's also some Symantec product whose name I forget that takes over the host PC. Ciao,Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect Ottawa Global Delivery Centre, SHL Systemhouse an MCI Company :^*+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax:232-5182:^* *^} ttrottier@shl.com http://www.shl.com *^} *:)50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada*:) ~Questions answered, answers questioned~ ---------- From: John Kim [SMTP:kim@stormhaven.org] Sent: 1998 November 09 - Monday 12:52 To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: NT programs On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > I'd like to be able to remotely run programs on my NT 701 via this 701. Does > anyone know where I can get a telnet server/daemon for NT 4? > Also, an ftp server would be nice, too. Sorry for the OT post. VNC is an all-around useful utility for displaying graphical Win/Mac/Unix apps on another Win/Mac/Unix platform. Kinda like X, but it also works with Windows and Macs. http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc/ -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 10 16:48:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA16193 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:48:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10228; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:45:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:41:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09864; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09791; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA12356; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:41:21 -1000 Message-ID: <004101be0cfb$4e7ea5c0$0db5ae80@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Mitchell Yee" , , "TROTTIER; Tom" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: Windows Terminal Server - (was RE: NT programs) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:41:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: > the Symantec product is PCAnywhere, which runs on Windows clients > (all flavors). The problem with this product is that Paul would > then have to run some sort of Microsoft OS on his systems and This is of course the advantage of VNC as recommended by John Kim; in addition, VNC is free. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 10 21:26:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA03170 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:26:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22927; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:22:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:19:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22743; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22714; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:19:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p16.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.79]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA01965; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:15:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811110215.SAA01965@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "TROTTIER, Tom" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 98 18:17:12 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Windows Terminal Server - (was RE: NT programs) List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:21:27 -0500, TROTTIER, Tom wrote: >Paul, >How about running Window Terminal Server on NT & the client on the 701 in NT >or 9x? Why restrict yourself to a character interface. What are you talking about? I'm running NT 4.0 ON the other 701 itself, and runs well. The only character interface I have is Linux (because X Windows is broken). Every system I'm running right now, including the SPARCbook, is running a GUI. I believe these are >available for download from MS & the server will be built into Window 2000. AKA NT 5. >Since it's only a screen painter, your innate speed will be that of the NT >platform, which can run multiple users. Yeah, if I had a 2 or 4 way server. >There's also some Symantec product whose name I forget that takes over the >host PC. PC Anywhere? (I work at Office Max, so I know a lot of software, and about the new printers, etc.). For a server, I just have a simple CD-ROM file server, eventually if I get more HDs, I'll make it more of a file server. I'm installing the Fixpack now for my TP750, and that will be the temporary print server. Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 10 23:47:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA28881 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28172; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:40:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:38:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28033; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:38:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28019; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:38:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from randolph (rer-2.pr.mcs.net [205.253.105.82]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA20348 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:38:04 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981110223605.009315a0@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: rer@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:37:58 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Richard E. Robbins" Subject: [TP701] Windows 98? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone managed to get Windows 98 running on a Thinkpad 701 C? My machine has the 75 Mhz processor, 40 Meg of memory and ample disk space. -- Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 11 02:12:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA15184 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:12:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02719; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:09:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:08:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02571; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:08:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02555; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:08:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (181.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.181]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA05098; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:08:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3649383B.12F91BFF@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:09:47 -0500 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Richard E. Robbins" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP701] Windows 98? References: <4.1.19981110223605.009315a0@popmail.mcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Yes.. win98 runs FINE, but a little slower than win95.. the 701 will also accept the 6.4gig HDD.. so, in spite of the slow cpu, it is still a viable little gem.. Richard E. Robbins wrote: > > Has anyone managed to get Windows 98 running on a Thinkpad 701 C? > > My machine has the 75 Mhz processor, 40 Meg of memory and ample disk space. > > -- Rich -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 260meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver, Do not try this at home, Don't spit into the wind AND, GoodNIGHT, Mrs. Calabash, whereEVER you are... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 11 02:12:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA15199 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:12:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02723; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:07:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02519; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:07:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02507; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (181.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.181]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA04175; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:07:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36493814.C38F291C@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:09:08 -0500 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Richard E. Robbins" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP701] Windows 98? References: <4.1.19981110223605.009315a0@popmail.mcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Yes.. win98 runs FINE, but a little slower than win95.. Richard E. Robbins wrote: > > Has anyone managed to get Windows 98 running on a Thinkpad 701 C? > > My machine has the 75 Mhz processor, 40 Meg of memory and ample disk space. > > -- Rich -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 260meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver, Do not try this at home, Don't spit into the wind AND, GoodNIGHT, Mrs. Calabash, whereEVER you are... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 11 02:35:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA04651 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:35:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03662; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:33:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:32:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03578; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03564; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (181.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.181]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA02851; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:32:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36493DE4.E17585F1@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:33:57 -0500 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hale CC: "David W. Taylor" , Teresa Selling , thinkpad Subject: Re: 8.1 gig in 770 with Win95 solution References: <002f01be0b92$0758bf60$0201a8c0@greasygirl> <3647CBBC.3453BAA1@direct.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Teresa.. EZ Drive is the only current solution for the non-thinkpad IBM 8.1gig HDD.. the problem is the non-TP drive reports the cylinder/head/sector differently than the TP IBM 8.1gig HDD does.. and win9x does not recognise this and kicks you into DOS compatibility mode.. no way that i know of to get around this unless some later drives have this C/H/S thing fixed or changed.. the TP 8.1gig has a different FRU # or P/N than the non-TP 8.1gig, even though the model # is the same.. re. fat32.. i have not experienced any problems with it..! though, the utilities will need to be upgraded.. just like PQMagic needed an upgrade to deal with the 8.1gig HDD mentioned above.. Hale wrote: > > I would advise thinking twice about using the FAT32 on Win98 (and it is > in fact in the SR2, or B version of Win95. It will allow much larger > drives without having to use partions or overlays, but in my experience > it not without it's instability problems, eg. the "FAT"s seem to become > corrupted much more frequently, and if you then use a util. such as > scandisk to cleans things up, you often wind up with your entire > directory structure, and most of your files trashed. This is compounded > by the fact that FAT16 and FAT32 are not compatible, and you cant use > your tried and true recovery software to attempt repair. > > You guessed it, the end result is Fdisk, reformat, and 3 or 4 days > re-installing everything. > > Good luck, Hale > > David W. Taylor wrote: > > > > I think with Windows 98 there is a new FAT system called FAT32x, which > > allows for BIG drives. It may have been added for Windows 95b, which never > > shipped as an update. > > > > On page 401 of the Windows 98 Resource Kit, it refers to partitions of up to > > 8gb and drives up to 2 terabytes in size. > > > > You should consider upgrading to Windows 98. > > > > David > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Teresa Selling > > To: Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com ; thinkpad > > > > Date: Sunday, November 08, 1998 2:57 PM > > Subject: 8.1 gig in 770 with Win95 solution > > > > >I was wondering if BIll Morrow or anyone else has found a better > > >solution for using an 8.1 gig drive in the 770. Right now I either > > >have to use EZDrive to remap the drive or have windows use > > >dos compatability mode. I was hoping there was a new > > >driver for win95 that would allow setting up CHS or something... > > > > > -- > ** Please remove the "NOSPAM" to E-Mail reply.** -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 260meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver, Do not try this at home, Don't spit into the wind AND, GoodNIGHT, Mrs. Calabash, whereEVER you are... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 11 02:46:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA13354 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:46:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04244; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:43:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04151; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:43:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04139; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (181.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.181]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA12412; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:43:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36494069.558A04B9@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:44:41 -0500 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Grid CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770E & SelectaDock III Questions References: <007701be0b70$cdca9140$1a32a2d1@thinkpad-770e> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i never use docking stations so i can't help with that problem.. but the CRT monitor might be helped by a car windshield type repair.. they polish out the stone chips or fill them with epoxy or something.. only a thought.. > The Grid wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > I have a problem. I have TP 770E with SelectaBase770 and > SelectaDockIII. I can't undock it while hot. It says, that it has > problems disabling the device. I have STB Black Magic Voodoo 2 card, > IBM Cell-Capable 56k PC Card Modem, HP CD-R(W). Help. > > Another thing. I don't know how, but I ended up scratching my IBM P72 > external monitor. I little peice of glass chipped off. Is there > anything I can do about it? > > Thanks, > > Alex -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 260meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver, Do not try this at home, Don't spit into the wind AND, GoodNIGHT, Mrs. Calabash, whereEVER you are... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 11 03:43:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA04133 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 03:43:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06472; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 03:37:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 03:36:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06327; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 03:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from tyholt.uninett.no (tyholt.uninett.no [158.38.60.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06302; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 03:36:03 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from tikneppen.uninett.no (oak@tikneppen.uninett.no [158.38.60.70]) by tyholt.uninett.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17193 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:35:56 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199811110835.JAA17193@tyholt.uninett.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: autoswap external mouse tp600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:35:55 +0100 Sender: Olav.Kvittem@uninett.no List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I wonder if there is any experience in using an external mouse with three buttons that can be put in and out without restarting the machine. I use Linux, but I guess this could be OS-independent. olav From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 11 12:05:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA18400 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:05:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02331; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:51:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02038; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:51:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx (cortes.cibnor.mx [200.23.161.225]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02001; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:51:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx by cortes.cibnor.mx id aa19438; 11 Nov 98 9:50 MST Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:49:45 -0700 (MST) From: Larry Miller To: Mitchell Yee cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: USB Keyboard Win95 385XD In-Reply-To: <000027E7.1225@aoc.jud.state.ca.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > having played with USB on my system all weekend, I > might be able to offer a few pointers (forgive > the obvious questions, but they need to be asked): > > 1. does your BIOS know about USB? Are the USB > ports enabled? Yes. > 2. you must be running OSR2 (Win95B) version. USB > is not supported in the earliest versions of 95. I Am. > 3. Win95B knows about USB, but you need to add the > USB drivers, downloadable from the Microsoft site. > It's hard to find, and if you can't find it, let > me know. If you're talking about usbsupp.exe, it's installed. > 4. Once you've done 1,2 and 3, USB works without a hitch. > I've got a USB scanner working fine. I've been informed that win95 works with some USB devices but not keyboards and similar user interface devices. I believe the source. Sigh... Saludos-- Larry > Hi, Folks-- > > Well, I just got back from the 'States with a new Microsoft "wavy" > external PS2/USB keyboard for my 385XD running Win95, and... sigh. I > can't get Win95 to recognize it. I'd like to run that keyboard in USB > mode if I can, and am not ready for Win98 yet. Anybody know if there are > drivers out there that would make this possible? Larry Miller Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico lmiller@cibnor.mx http://www.cibnor.mx/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 11 12:36:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA18781 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04873; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:34:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:32:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04757; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04722; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA18944 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:32:46 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:32:42 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: A warning for Alex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Alex (I couldn't see your e-mail address in the digest) If your CRT has a chip out of it, dispose of it immediately. A bump could make the tube implode, sending glass fragments, lead and nasty phosphors everywhere. A CRT is a more demanding use of glass than a windsheild because it has a strong vacuum inside. Especially if children are ever in the room, get rid of that hazard. Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 11 15:51:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA21254 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16914; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:35:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:27:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16385; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:27:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (smtp.thegrid.net [209.162.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16364; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6303 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1998 20:18:38 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 11 Nov 1998 20:18:38 -0000 Received: from thinkpad-770e (oak-ts1-h2-48-254.ispmodems.net [209.162.48.254]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA12154; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:18:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00e101be0db0$5c6e72e0$fe30a2d1@thinkpad-770e> From: "Alexander Shikhmuradov" To: "Chris Schumann" , Subject: Re: A warning for Alex Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:17:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DE_01BE0D6D.4D589580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01BE0D6D.4D589580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh, ok. I got it now. I think the glass on the tube is pretty thick. I = have more like a deep scratch than a chip. I already got used to it. = Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 11:46 AM Subject: A warning for Alex =20 =20 Alex (I couldn't see your e-mail address in the digest) =20 If your CRT has a chip out of it, dispose of it immediately. A bump = could make the tube implode, sending glass fragments, lead and nasty = phosphors everywhere. =20 A CRT is a more demanding use of glass than a windsheild because it = has a strong vacuum inside. =20 Especially if children are ever in the room, get rid of that hazard. =20 Chris Schumann =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01BE0D6D.4D589580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh, ok. I got it now. I think the glass on the tube = is pretty=20 thick. I have more like a deep scratch than a chip. I already got used = to it.=20 Thanks.
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Chris Schumann <whizkid@dwave.net>
To: = thinkpad@cs.utk.edu <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>
Dat= e:=20 Wednesday, November 11, 1998 11:46 AM
Subject: A = warning for=20 Alex

Alex (I couldn't see your e-mail address in = the=20 digest)

If your CRT has a chip out of it, dispose of it = immediately.=20 A bump could
make the tube implode, sending glass fragments, lead = and=20 nasty phosphors
everywhere.

A CRT is a more demanding use = of glass=20 than a windsheild because it has a
strong vacuum=20 inside.

Especially if children are ever in the room, get rid = of that=20 hazard.

Chris Schumann <whizkid@dwave.net>

------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01BE0D6D.4D589580-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 11 19:18:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA23767 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:17:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28169; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:12:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:09:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27977; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm06sm.pmm.cw.net (pm06sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27914; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from na (usr24-dialup36.mix2.Atlanta.cw.net [166.55.56.228]) by PM06SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33510) with SMTP id <0F2A00BGU8BRJT@PM06SM.PMM.CW.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:07:08 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:06:23 -0600 From: Angela Walker Subject: RE: [TP 380Z] Problem with audio mic jack? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <004b01be0dd8$ada19f20$ceaafea9@na.anyhost.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01BE0DA6.5F984720" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BE0DA6.5F984720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If it's like my TP600, I found out that the computer doesn't supply the = power to the microphone like with most computers. You have to buy a = microphone that is self powered or it won't work, according to what I = found in the newsgroups. Angela ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BE0DA6.5F984720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If it's like my TP600, I found out = that the=20 computer doesn't supply the power to the microphone like with most=20 computers.  You have to buy a microphone that is self powered or it = won't=20 work, according to what I found in the newsgroups.
 
Angela
------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BE0DA6.5F984720-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 11 22:33:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA26219 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04678; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:22:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:19:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04482; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04301; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:19:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from wabio (user-38ld0l9.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.130.169]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA27897 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:18:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981111220944.00a0c8f0@mail.newsguy.com> X-Sender: wicket@mail.newsguy.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:12:36 -0500 To: From: Alan Wong Subject: 3Com Cardbus Combo Card on TP600 In-Reply-To: <199811101710.JAA03352@ritchie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello All, I plan to purchase 3Com combo pcmcia cardbus combo card for my thinkpad 600. However, I'm not sure if it will work correctly with my machine. I will be running a triple boot.....Windows 98, NT and Linux. My main use will be under Windows NT however. Model number is 3CCFEM556 B. (It's their new one 10/100 + 56K modem) I appreciate any and all feedback. Thanks, Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 11 23:14:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA26561 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06407; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:07:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:05:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06254; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:05:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.mi.verio.com (newmail.mi.verio.com [209.69.71.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06242; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:04:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from billb (66-103.pop.fh.gle.verio.com [209.69.66.103]) by mail.mi.verio.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA14867; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:58:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981111230432.0080c820@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:04:32 -0500 To: "Richard E. Robbins" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: [TP701] Windows 98? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981110223605.009315a0@popmail.mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:37 PM 11/10/98 -0600, you wrote: >Has anyone managed to get Windows 98 running on a Thinkpad 701 C? > >My machine has the 75 Mhz processor, 40 Meg of memory and ample disk space. > >-- Rich > > > I had to switch back to 95. Everything that I have read states Win 98 will run slower on a low end processor and after playing with it, I would agree. 95 is snappier. I wanted 98 for the advanced power management stuff (full power shutdown for PC cards in suspend) but found it created more problems then it solved. Laptop would not wake up out of suspend without playing keyboard tricks. Also the cold start up time is much longer on 98. IMHO stay with 95... B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 12 01:49:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA28249 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10885; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:47:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:46:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10773; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10760; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.78]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA03617; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:41:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811120641.WAA03617@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Mitchell Yee" , "TROTTIER; Tom" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 98 22:44:36 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Windows Terminal Server - (was RE: NT programs) List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:54:30 -0800, Mitchell Yee wrote: > the Symantec product is PCAnywhere, which runs on Windows clients > (all flavors). The problem with this product is that Paul would > then have to run some sort of Microsoft OS on his systems and > then 1) have to lengthen his .sig; Guess it's too long then, right (though I've seen some long ones too). 2) contaminate at least > two of his systems with Micro$oft. Yeah, though I actually like NT now. It's about as stable as OS/2, which means it sometimes locks up or sorta crashes (doesn't crash, but freezes and needs to be reset). But does it work on a LAN? Otherwise, file and print sharing is okay. In fact, I'm using my TP750 as a print server now for NT and OS/2. But there are some programs I'd like to run that the user can't interfere with when they log in or log out. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 12 01:51:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA28265 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11125; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:49:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11014; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:49:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11000; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:49:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.78]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA03941; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:44:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811120644.WAA03941@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Richard E. Robbins" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 98 22:47:56 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP701] Windows 98? List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:37:58 -0600, Richard E. Robbins wrote: >Has anyone managed to get Windows 98 running on a Thinkpad 701 C? > When I bought my second 701 (the one I run Warp 4 on now), it had a 540MB HD with Windows 98 and 16MB of RAM. Even on 24MB, it ran so-so, but I find that NT runs better with the same specs (actually a 720MB HD on my original 701). >My machine has the 75 Mhz processor, 40 Meg of memory and ample disk space. > The more memory and disk space, the better. 98 is okay, but loading up My Computer, Network Neighboorhood, Control Panel, or anything else using IE might take a few more seconds to load than 95, but I like 98 better than 95. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 12 01:52:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA28276 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11390; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:50:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:49:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11099; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:49:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10929; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.78]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA03787; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:42:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811120642.WAA03787@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "David Ross" , "Mitchell Yee" , "TROTTIER; Tom" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 98 22:46:02 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Windows Terminal Server - (was RE: NT programs) List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:41:48 -0600, David Ross wrote: >> the Symantec product is PCAnywhere, which runs on Windows clients >> (all flavors). The problem with this product is that Paul would >> then have to run some sort of Microsoft OS on his systems and > > >This is of course the advantage of VNC as recommended by >John Kim; in addition, VNC is free. VNC stands for Virtual Network Computer? I forgot about what John said about it (been busy and stressed lately). I basically need telnet, and that's it. Having better OS/2 and NT telnet clients would be nice, too. NT and OS/2 telnet have both pros and cons :( -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 12 01:55:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA28313 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:55:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11625; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:53:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:52:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11467; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:52:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11455; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:52:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.78]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA04141; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:47:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811120647.WAA04141@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , "Richard E. Robbins" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 98 22:50:42 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP701] Windows 98? List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:09:47 -0500, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >Yes.. >win98 runs FINE, but a little slower than win95.. > >the 701 will also accept the 6.4gig HDD.. so, in spite of the slow cpu, >it is still a viable little gem.. Actually, the original hard drives that shipped with the 701 were Mode 3 drives. The 1.4GB I stuck in is Mode 4, meaning it transfers data faster, it's also quieter, more reliable (SMART capable), and faster access times. I think the largest you have for 12.7mm if I recall now is 10GB, and for 17mm, is 14GB. And they're comming out with 20GB EIDE drives now, too. In fact, I just stuck a 2.1GB drive from a 380 into my 750, and it runs quite fast too, despite the 33MHz CPU. So, a new hard drive will also speed up 98 as opposed to the original noisy and slow HD. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 12 01:59:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA28342 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12479; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:58:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:57:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12385; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:57:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12372; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.78]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA04485; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:52:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811120652.WAA04485@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Alan Wong" , "John Kim" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 98 22:55:32 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Installing NT, Win 98 on TP 600 List-Unsubscribe: >Before you start, you should be forewarned of a couple things. > >1) 98 doesn't understand NTFS, and NT 4.0 SP3 doesn't >understand VFAT (aka FAT32, the new file system 95OSR2 and 98 >support). I think there's a third party driver out there >which will let NT understand VFAT, and maybe SP4 does as well. >Both can read plain FAT. If you can, get Boot Manager from OS/2 or Partition Magic, and then have seperate partitions for NT and 98, and maybe one FAT16 partition to share data between the two. > >2) As far as I could tell, the NT 4.0 install CD doesn't let >you drop to a shell. That means if your NT system is on NTFS >and you hose it, you have two choices to fix it: A) fix it so >you can access the partition so you can fix it (catch-22). >B) have another bootable NT system handy somewhere. One of the unfortuante problems with NT. And 4.0 is kind of limited with what drivers you can use for your CD-ROM device. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 12 02:01:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA28540 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:01:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12934; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:59:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12777; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:59:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12697; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.78]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA04613; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:53:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811120653.WAA04613@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Axel Hartmann" , "David W. Taylor" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 98 22:57:14 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [OT] RE: NT programs List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:06:14 -0800, David W. Taylor wrote: >Runs on all Intel platforms. They have, in effect, abandoned Apple after >Apple refused to give them access to the G3 hardware design team. > >Bu the BeOS CD and you will have a guaranteed antique. This puppy is going >nowhere. Who knows, maybe it will be used where the Amiga used to be used. It's supposed to have nice graphics and a 64 bit file system, but I think the lack of programs, etc. will bring it down. I guess there's probably a better chance of IBM keeping OS/2 alive than BeOS... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 12 02:02:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA28554 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:02:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12180; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:56:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:55:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11976; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:55:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11931; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.78]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA04305; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:49:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811120649.WAA04305@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Cc: "David W. Taylor" , "Teresa Selling" , "thinkpad" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 98 22:53:09 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 8.1 gig in 770 with Win95 solution List-Unsubscribe: >no way that i know of to get around this unless some later drives have >this C/H/S thing fixed or changed.. >the TP 8.1gig has a different FRU # or P/N than the non-TP 8.1gig, even >though the model # is the same.. > Don't they all use LBA now? I'm using an IBM OEM HD in my 701 (that came out of a Toshiba notebook), and it works fine, though the BIOS shows it as a 347MB drive. >re. fat32.. >i have not experienced any problems with it..! >though, the utilities will need to be upgraded.. >just like PQMagic needed an upgrade to deal with the 8.1gig HDD >mentioned above.. > I did notice about FAT 32 is that it's not compatible even with NT. My brother wanted NT on his computer to connect to my network, but NT said his FAT32 partition table was corrupted. Honestly, I wonder why they couldn't have switched to NTFS, which is more compatible than FAT32. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 12 02:03:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA28565 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13247; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:00:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12903; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:00:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12821; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:59:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.78]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA04710; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:55:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811120655.WAA04710@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "David Jones" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 98 22:58:33 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dock II + 701 + OS/2 = No FDD access! List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 9 Nov 98 17:48 MST, David Jones wrote: >Has anyone come across this problem: I have a Dock II with a 701 and >cannot access the FDD under OS/2 Warp 4. I get a SYS0049 error. If I >undock I can access the FDD and read the very same diskette >successfully under OS/2. > Yup, been there, done that. >In addition, I am also running NT 4.0 and Linux on the same 701. >Under those two operating systems I have no trouble accessing the FDD. > >Finally, I was never able to install OS/2 via the docking station. >The installation stopped on the third diskette with the message: "OS/2 >is unable to operate your hard disk or diskette drive. The system is >stopped. Correct the preceeding error and restart the system". > I don't know, but I had the same problem. Even on Warp 3, too. Ironically, NT 4 booted up just fine. Maybe it needs a driver for the Dock II, but it still has me puzzled... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 12 02:50:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA28897 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14441; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:49:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:48:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14357; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:48:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from klingon.upnaway.com (root@klingon.upnaway.com [203.30.19.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14344; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:48:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from cow (species52.upnaway.com [202.61.239.182]) by klingon.upnaway.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12163 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:51:37 +0800 Message-Id: <199811120751.PAA12163@klingon.upnaway.com> From: "Teng-Yan Loke" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:47:51 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [TP760] Discharging of Li-Ion Battery Reply-to: lokety@bigfoot.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: I use my 760ELD on AC power all the time and seldom use it outside on the battery. After a while of use, sometimes the LCD will show that the battery has 99% power, and this is when I discharge the battery using the Fuel program. As a rule of thumb, I discharge the battery about once a month. My question is: how often should I discharge, or at all? Thanx for any comments. ---- Teng-Yan Loke aka Cow | lokety@bigfoot.com | www.bigfoot.com/~lokety PGP fingerprint F6 18 CE 37 4C 90 C4 C9 EE F1 D7 B0 5F AE D2 88 If a program is useless, it will have to be documented. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 12 09:26:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA01640 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:26:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03119; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:24:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:22:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02892; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ssec.wisc.edu (ssec.wisc.edu [144.92.108.61]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02880; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:22:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.ssec.wisc.edu (mail.ssec.wisc.edu [144.92.108.227]) by ssec.wisc.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA137081 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:22:11 -0600 Received: by mail.ssec.wisc.edu with ADMIN;12 Nov 1998 08:18:33 -0600 Message-ID: <364AF26D.1B8C5E78@ssec.wisc.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:36:29 -0600 From: Paul Schnettler Reply-To: paulsch@ssec.wisc.edu Organization: UW-Space Science & Engineering Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad list server submit Subject: Linux X windows config on TP755CX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello list, Has anyone had success configuring a Linux X-windows environment on a thinkpad? I've installed RedHat 5.1 successfully and tried to configure Xfree86 for my display. I got the WD90C30 (I think thats it) chipset info entered but have no information relating to clock speeds. Of course, when I try to start X things seem to go OK till the system does it's clock setting and then whammo, zip, zero, nada... Anyone have a clue? Thanks, Paul S. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 12 10:29:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA02600 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:29:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05784; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:13:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05638; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.la.tis.com (firewall-user@relay.la.tis.com [198.51.22.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05602; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:12:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay.la.tis.com; id GAA16793; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 06:15:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from scintillate.la.tis.com(192.5.49.8) by relay.la.tis.com via smap (4.1) id xma016786; Thu, 12 Nov 98 06:14:15 -0500 Received: from scintillate.la.tis.com (scintillate.la.tis.com [192.5.49.8]) by scintillate.la.tis.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA18279; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:09:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811121509.HAA18279@scintillate.la.tis.com> X-Authentication-Warning: scintillate.la.tis.com: scintillate.la.tis.com [192.5.49.8] didn't use HELO protocol To: Alan Wong cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, rogerk@tis.com Subject: Re: 3Com Cardbus Combo Card on TP600 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 11 Nov 98 22:12:36 EST." <4.1.19981111220944.00a0c8f0@mail.newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 98 07:09:47 -0800 From: Roger Knobbe List-Unsubscribe: check http://hyper.stanford.edu/~dhinds/pcmcia/ftp/SUPPORTED.CARDS for linux support. This is what it says for 3com "multifunction" cards: [3c589_cs driver] 3Com 3c562, 3c562B/C/D, 3c563B/C/D 3Com 3CCEM556, 3CXEM556 [ NOT the 3CFEM556 ] Motorola Marquis From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 12 11:25:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA03365 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:25:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10225; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:13:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:11:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09997; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (p57075.syspac.com [204.181.57.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09950; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0zdzL4-00014RC; Thu, 12 Nov 98 09:11 MST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 98 09:11 MST From: jones@pyrrhusoft.com (David Jones) To: paulsch@ssec.wisc.edu CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux X windows config on TP755CX List-Unsubscribe: I just went through the exercise of installing Slackware 3.5, but it was on a TP 701, which uses a Chips & Technologies CT65545. I had no trouble but am fairly familiar with Linux. What I would recommend is to first use the "-probeonly" option and study the results; viz. XF86_SVGA -probeonly >& /tmp/probe.out David Jones --------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Schnettler Has anyone had success configuring a Linux X-windows environment on a thinkpad? I've installed RedHat 5.1 successfully and tried to configure Xfree86 for my display. I got the WD90C30 (I think thats it) chipset info entered but have no information relating to clock speeds. Of course, when I try to start X things seem to go OK till the system does it's clock setting and then whammo, zip, zero, nada... Anyone have a clue? Thanks, Paul S. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 12 13:06:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA04970 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:06:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16879; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:58:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:55:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16574; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu (martigny.ai.mit.edu [18.43.1.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16440; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ravna.ai.mit.edu (flenser.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.114.236]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA04765; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:54:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:54:03 -0500 (EST) From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP600, Linux, APM X-Mailer: Edwin [version 3.93, MIT Scheme Release 7.5a] List-Unsubscribe: I've got a ThinkPad 600 running Linux and am having some trouble with APM. I wonder if anyone else has run into this. The problem is: I can put the computer into standby/suspend using the "apm" command (e.g. "apm --suspend"). But the keyboard keys don't have any effect. For example, when I press the keyboard suspend key, the suspend light flashes on and off a bunch of times, then the machine beeps. The syslog shows the following messages: Nov 11 22:04:51 ravna kernel: apm_bios: an event queue overflowed Nov 11 22:06:40 ravna kernel: cs: received bogus resume event The keyboard keys work just fine if I disable the apm daemon -- which indicates that the apmd isn't responding properly to the hardware-generated suspend event. But this isn't a solution because the apmd provides necessary functionality. I've built the kernel using the "#undef NOINTS" flag, and am using this configuration: CONFIG_APM=y # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set # CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE is not set CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK=y CONFIG_APM_POWER_OFF=y CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_MULTIPLE_SUSPEND=y BTW, I recommend the CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_MULTIPLE_SUSPEND flag -- it eliminates the following error messages: Nov 11 21:48:08 ravna kernel: extra suspend event Nov 11 21:48:08 ravna kernel: cs: received extra suspend event Nov 11 21:48:09 ravna last message repeated 226 times Any ideas? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 01:10:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA15893 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18641; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:08:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:02:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18338; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:02:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.119.93]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18321; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:02:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.119.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/08/04 5.11)) id BAA27830; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:02:03 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from thinkpad-770 (ts002d09.ott-cn.concentric.net [206.173.215.69]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id BAA21939; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:01:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811130601.BAA21939@cliff.concentric.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:01:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: V.90 mwave upgrade available Reply-to: phong@concentric.net Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3642fc25.799525@mail.eclipse.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone managed to get a connection above 32 kbps? I installed it properly but can't connect to my ISP above v.34 speeds. FYI, my provided is Concentric. Thanks, ... patrick > For the brave or foolhardy, there it is, on the IBM TP web site. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. email: phong@concentric.net Tel: (613) 769-1544 Fax: (613) 728-4063 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 06:07:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA17994 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:07:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA02687; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:06:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:05:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA02581; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.generics.co.uk (mailgate.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA02562; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:05:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from scigen.co.uk (scigen) by mailgate.generics.co.uk (5.0/PIPEX simple 1.26) id AA11366; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:10:39 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk by scigen.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21253; Fri, 13 Nov 98 10:58:54 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:04:09 +0000 To: paulsch@ssec.wisc.edu, jones@pyrrhusoft.com (David Jones) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: Linux X windows config on TP755CX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: I used Xconfigurator on my 755C/Redhat 5=2E1, worked a treat=2E ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Linux X windows config on TP755CX Author: PC:jones@pyrrhusoft=2Ecom (David Jones) at INTERNET Date: 12/11/98 16:16 I just went through the exercise of installing Slackware 3=2E5, but it=20= was on a TP 701, which uses a Chips & Technologies CT65545=2E I had no=20= trouble but am fairly familiar with Linux=2E What I would recommend is to first use the "-probeonly" option and=20= study the results; viz=2E XF86_SVGA -probeonly >& /tmp/probe=2Eout David Jones --------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Schnettler Has anyone had success configuring a Linux X-windows environment=20= on a thinkpad? I've installed RedHat 5=2E1 successfully and tried to=20= configure Xfree86 for my display=2E I got the WD90C30 (I think thats it)=20= chipset info entered but have no information relating to clock=20= speeds=2E Of course, when I try to start X things seem to go OK till=20= the system does it's clock setting and then whammo, zip, zero,=20= nada=2E=2E=2E Anyone have a clue? Thanks, Paul S=2E ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 06:53:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA18197 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:53:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA03636; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:52:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:52:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA03554; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:52:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall.hd.ibm.de (firewall.hd.ibm.de [192.101.197.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA03541; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com by firewall.hd.ibm.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03/TWS 4.03.3-cherub) id AA07876; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:49:40 +0100 Received: from pool6.heidelbg.ibm.com (pool6.heidelbg.ibm.com [9.228.3.106]) by mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.4-mailserver) with ESMTP id MAA12586 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:51:02 +0100 (MEZ) Received: (from krumeich@localhost) by pool6.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.2-pool) id MAA56976; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:51:01 +0100 (MEZ) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:51:01 +0100 (MEZ) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de To: ThinkPad List Subject: TP600: Paint coming off Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, sorry to raise this subject again. I remember it has been dealt with a few months ago on this list. At that time, some people complained that the paint on the palm rest of their 600s came off slowly. Yesterday it started on my TP600 as well. The paint on the loudspeakers started showing tiny bubbles. They crack open and reveal the blank metal underneath. Not a pretty sight. :-( This happens only on the left side. I'm left-handed so this area is exactly where my palm rests usually. Has anybody found a remedy for this? Is this paint thing covered by IBM warranty? In Europe as well? I appreciate courtesy copies of your answers. Thanks, Alexander -- Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 07:36:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA18452 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:36:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05145; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:35:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:34:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05036; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:34:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05018; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:34:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 (user-38ld32u.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.140.94]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA02764 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:34:37 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad list" Subject: RE: TP600: Paint coming off Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:24:21 -0500 Message-ID: <000301be0f00$8b419420$fee44ecf@770> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: Paint came off palm rest of my TP770 twice. With a bit of fuss, IBM fixed it first time. Have not sent it in again for second repair, but have called in to make a report. Many others have had similar experiences. -Bill Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Krumeich [mailto:krumeich@heidelbg.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 6:51 AM To: ThinkPad List Subject: TP600: Paint coming off Hi, sorry to raise this subject again. I remember it has been dealt with a few months ago on this list. At that time, some people complained that the paint on the palm rest of their 600s came off slowly. Yesterday it started on my TP600 as well. The paint on the loudspeakers started showing tiny bubbles. They crack open and reveal the blank metal underneath. Not a pretty sight. :-( This happens only on the left side. I'm left-handed so this area is exactly where my palm rests usually. Has anybody found a remedy for this? Is this paint thing covered by IBM warranty? In Europe as well? I appreciate courtesy copies of your answers. Thanks, Alexander -- Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 08:17:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA18717 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06800; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:15:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06692; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06673; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [158.152.127.170] (helo=moab.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zeJ4b-0005Ph-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:15:38 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:10:25 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Greg Terrell Subject: Re: V.90 mwave upgrade available In-Reply-To: <199811130601.BAA21939@cliff.concentric.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 List-Unsubscribe: In message <199811130601.BAA21939@cliff.concentric.net>, Patrick Hong writes >Has anyone managed to get a connection above 32 kbps? I installed it properly >but can't connect to my ISP above v.34 speeds. FYI, my provided is Concentric. > I tried to install it on my 770 (95491AO) without success. The V.90 did not install and left the x2 installed. That may be because I am in UK. The installation notes say the V.90 upgrade is "supported" only in US, Canada and Japan although "enabled" for UK. Any other ideas as to why it didn't install? -- Greg Terrell From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 08:31:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA18846 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:31:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07797; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:30:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:29:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07705; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:29:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07693; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:29:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from lou (user-38ldh4d.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.196.141]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA31724 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:29:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981113052152.00955290@mindspring.com> X-Sender: lou1358@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 05:21:52 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: Two problems with TP 380 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have run into two problems with the Thinkpad 380 1. I have lost the sound. I have adjusted the speaker volume to medium but do not hear anything. 2. I have tried to turn off the IR port and turn on the serial port so I can download data from my GPS. I cannot get information from the gps but I don't know if it is the gps or something not working with the serial port input. Any suggestions? Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 08:43:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA18907 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:43:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08454; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:41:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:41:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08356; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ids2.idsonline.com (ids2.idsonline.com [205.177.236.32]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08336; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from asalzberg (asc162.idsonline.com [207.176.21.162]) by ids2.idsonline.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA11765; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:29:43 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Arthur Salzberg" To: , Subject: RE: V.90 mwave upgrade available Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:40:36 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be0f0b$35fa3700$a215b0cf@asalzberg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <199811130601.BAA21939@cliff.concentric.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Upgraded the TP 770ED to V.90 last week and now consistently get 46-48 kpbs, about a 10% improvement over prior X2. Connect speeds are dependent upon quality of line to the digital switch at the ISP. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Hong [mailto:phong@concentric.net] Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 1:02 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: V.90 mwave upgrade available Has anyone managed to get a connection above 32 kbps? I installed it properly but can't connect to my ISP above v.34 speeds. FYI, my provided is Concentric. Thanks, ... patrick > For the brave or foolhardy, there it is, on the IBM TP web site. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. email: phong@concentric.net Tel: (613) 769-1544 Fax: (613) 728-4063 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 10:24:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA19830 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13467; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:18:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13274; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13248; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:18:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA07583; Fri, 13 Nov 98 10:15:34 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <364C4D16.98E4E25D@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:15:34 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP600: Paint coming off References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Out of ten TP600s here, we've had this problem on two of them so far. Both were promptly EZ-Served under warranty. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 10:38:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA20042 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:38:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14422; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:30:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:30:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14333; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14321; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA07655; Fri, 13 Nov 98 10:28:32 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <364C501F.485029B0@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:28:31 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de, ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP600: Paint coming off References: <364C4D16.98E4E25D@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Actually, I lied. EZ-Serve *lost* one of the TP600s. Weeks later they sent us a replacement. This is the only problem we've had with many uses of EZ-Serve. Still, beware and make sure you strip out as much your machine as possible, most importantly your hard disk. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 10:53:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA20307 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15797; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:49:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15503; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:49:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall.hd.ibm.de (firewall.hd.ibm.de [192.101.197.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15478; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:49:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com by firewall.hd.ibm.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03/TWS 4.03.3-cherub) id AA26356; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:46:51 +0100 Received: from pool6.heidelbg.ibm.com (pool6.heidelbg.ibm.com [9.228.3.106]) by mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.4-mailserver) with ESMTP id QAA35536; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:48:13 +0100 (MEZ) Received: (from krumeich@localhost) by pool6.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.2-pool) id QAA18032; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:48:11 +0100 (MEZ) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:48:11 +0100 (MEZ) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de To: I Lee Hetherington Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP600: Paint coming off In-Reply-To: <364C501F.485029B0@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Lee, > Actually, I lied. EZ-Serve *lost* one of the TP600s. Weeks later they > sent us a replacement. This is the only problem we've had with many > uses of EZ-Serve. Still, beware and make sure you strip out as much > your machine as possible, most importantly your hard disk. Thanks for your reply. I think that this EZ-Serve is a marvellous service. Unfortunately, I doubt that we have a comparable service here in Germany. Things are less customer-oriented over here, to say the least. I'll give IBM a call as soon as I have finished my Master Thesis. In the meantime, I'll help myself with some Scotch tape to prevent further peeling off. To the European/German users on the list: Does anybody have experiences with IBM customer service? Thanks, Alexander -- Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 12:36:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA21806 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24105; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:22:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23284; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from avana.net (skratchy.avana.net [205.245.133.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23267; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:22:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from scottkelley (rac3-36.avana.net [206.229.100.142]) by avana.net (SM-98/Avana) with SMTP id MAA10377 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:22:05 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981113122402.006ecd04@pop.avana.net> X-Sender: scottk@pop.avana.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:24:02 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Scott Kelley Subject: IR on a 385XD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have a 385XD and a Sharp Mobilon HC4500. I have tried getting an IR connection to work but the laptop won't cooperate. When I tell the IR port to look for compatible devices, it seems to go back an forth between telling me that It can't find any, then all of a sudden, it seems to find one. The one it finds is itself. Any thoughts on getting the IR to work. Scott. Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" - Elanor Roosevelt "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" - Unknown "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find a rock." - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 12:43:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA21927 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24113; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:29:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23902; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:29:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pike.sover.net (root@pike.sover.net [209.198.87.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23888; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:29:29 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from MYHOSTNAME (usr2a80.burl.sover.net [207.136.201.80]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA01036 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:29:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811131729.MAA01036@pike.sover.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:26:41 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: SXGA for TP600? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.50 b50 List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know if there are plans for a TP 600 with the SXGA screen, and when we might see it? --I want to buy a 600, but not if something far better is due in a few months. _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 14:16:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA23507 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:16:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29538; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:03:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:00:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29290; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29257; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:59:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00414 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:59:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts_jl (DTS_JL-pcp098671pcs.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00399 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:59:46 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981113134723.00b03890@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:47:23 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: SXGA for TP600? In-Reply-To: <199811131729.MAA01036@pike.sover.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:26 PM 11/13/98 -0500, letoured@sover.net wrote: >Does anyone know if there are plans for a TP 600 with the SXGA screen, and >when we might see it? --I want to buy a 600, but not if something far >better is due in a few months. > FWIW, I would think that anyone who knew for certain what's coming up in the future would be bound by an NDA at this point and would hesitate to answer (you never know who might be lurking on the list). From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 21:55:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA02623 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17354; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:52:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17240; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:52:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17215; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:52:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-223-010.usc.edu [128.125.223.10]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id SAA28661 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 18:52:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981113185049.009d0bd0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 18:52:22 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: V.90 mwave upgrade available In-Reply-To: References: <199811130601.BAA21939@cliff.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: As long as we're on this topic... You know how when you boot into Windows, it shows a little IBM licensing message concerning the modem? I stopped it from doing that way back when, but forgot how it was done. Now that I've upgraded to V.90 on the modem, I need to do it again (I hate the little advertisement/licensing thing). Anyone that can tell me how? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 22:01:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02672 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:01:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17121; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:49:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:49:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17035; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17022; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-223-010.usc.edu [128.125.223.10]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id SAA28294 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 18:49:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981113184504.009be5b0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 18:45:54 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: V.90 mwave upgrade available In-Reply-To: <199811130601.BAA21939@cliff.concentric.net> References: <3642fc25.799525@mail.eclipse.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 01:01 AM 11/13/98 -0500, you wrote: >Has anyone managed to get a connection above 32 kbps? I installed it properly >but can't connect to my ISP above v.34 speeds. FYI, my provided is Concentric. Since upgrading my TP 600's modem, I usually get connect speeds of 44K. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 13 22:17:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02927 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16565; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:38:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:36:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16439; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:36:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from intrex.net (ns2.intrex.net [209.42.192.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16427; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:36:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ts_slug.intrex.net [209.42.199.199] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-4.04) id AD1733700EC; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:38:15 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981113144118.00973aa0@mail.intrex.net> Message-Id: <4.1.19981113144118.00973aa0@mail.intrex.net> X-Sender: rick@mail.intrex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:42:41 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Rick Floyd Subject: Re: V.90 mwave upgrade available Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: > Has anyone managed to get a connection above 32 kbps? This is the best that my 770ED has been able to achieve after being upgraded. This is to two different local V.90 ISPs. In contrast to this, my desktop contains a USR Sportster that I just upgraded to V.90. It consistently connects at 48K to both ISPs. The strange thing about the 770ED is that it *always* seems to connect at 32K when the ISP supports V.90, and now more reliably at 28.8 when it doesn't. That seems like strange behavior for something that's normally limited by line quality. rick floyd rick@cs.duke.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 14 00:06:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA04083 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:06:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18198; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:10:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18073; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:10:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18058; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:10:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hetherington.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA10811; Fri, 13 Nov 98 22:10:16 EST Message-Id: <364CF464.553FE979@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:09:24 -0500 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, Spoken Language Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP List Subject: Re: V.90 mwave upgrade available References: <199811130601.BAA21939@cliff.concentric.net> <4.1.19981113185049.009d0bd0@rcf.usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: It's in your Start...Programs...StartUp group. You can remove it by clicking right on Start and choosing Explore. Then traverse down there and blow it away. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 14 12:14:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09432 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10259; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:11:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10143; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10131; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:11:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ms154504 (user-38lcapu.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.43.62]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA01822; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:11:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811141711.MAA01822@camel7.mindspring.com> X-Sender: rchalk@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:11:40 -0500 To: Rick Floyd , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Richard Chalk Subject: Re: V.90 mwave upgrade available In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981113144118.00973aa0@mail.intrex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have the same result. Also, a 3Com XJ5560 in the same computer consistently gets 44-46K, and sometimes as high as 52K. I'm looking for the same answer!! Richard At 02:42 PM 11/13/98 -0500, Rick Floyd wrote: >> Has anyone managed to get a connection above 32 kbps? > >This is the best that my 770ED has been able to achieve after being >upgraded. This is to two different local V.90 ISPs. In contrast to this, my >desktop contains a USR Sportster that I just upgraded to V.90. It >consistently connects at 48K to both ISPs. > >The strange thing about the 770ED is that it *always* seems to connect at >32K when the ISP supports V.90, and now more reliably at 28.8 when it >doesn't. That seems like strange behavior for something that's normally >limited by line quality. > > rick floyd > rick@cs.duke.edu > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 14 14:12:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA10586 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:12:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12726; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:07:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12566; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:07:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12551; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp300 (1Cust22.tnt8.lax3.da.uu.net [153.37.75.22]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with SMTP id LAA26756 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:06:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981114110243.00b2b5a0@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:05:37 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: [TP 380Z] Problem with audio mic jack? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981107201749.00b2a100@shell9.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:22 PM 11/7/98 -0800, I wrote: >I've got a brand new ThinkPad 380Z (PII-300, 96MB) that I've had for >less than 2 full weeks. Today I tried doing some audio recording using >the mike and speaker jacks on the side. The speaker jack works fine, >but the mike jack seems to be slightly out of wack. > >If I insert the mike jack all the way (just like I do for the speaker jack), >then the external mike is TOTALLY DEAF! However, if I put the mike >jack in all but the last 1/16" (or so), then the external microphone seems >to work just fine. Unfortunately, I have to fiddle with the jack until I get it >just right before I can start recording. Thanks to all who responded to this problem. I received the "Thinkpad Mike adapter" from www.speechcontrol.com ($4.95 + shipping) and it fixed the problem right away. Quick solutions and suggestions like the ones I received are what make this mailing list / group SO helpful. -- David Goldman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 14 14:53:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA10945 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13714; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:43:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13578; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:43:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13563; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:42:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp300 (1Cust22.tnt8.lax3.da.uu.net [153.37.75.22]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with SMTP id LAA26281 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:40:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981114113704.00b31a00@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:40:27 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: RE: Installing NT, Win 98 on TP 600 In-Reply-To: <005d01be0c19$e5844840$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> References: <4.1.19981109001005.00a0d560@mail.newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:48 AM 11/9/98 -0800, you wrote: >3Com CardBus cards don't get along very well with ThinkPads running NT. I >have had much better luck with Xircom cards. My experience is with the >standalone 10/100 network cards, not combo cards, but somehow I doubt the >3Com combo card would work better. I've been running the Xircom 10/100 & 56k Modem combo card on my 380Z for a few weeks now. Other than one small issue (I cannot hibernate the system with the card inserted), the thing runs like a champ! It installed easily, upgraded to v.90 without a hitch and has worked flawlessly ever since it was installed. It uses no dongles, cords, adapters or x-jack connectors. Just plug the telephone cord and Ethernet jack right into the end of the Xircom and things start working! -- David Goldman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 14 15:28:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11364 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:28:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14934; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:22:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:20:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14809; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de (deimos.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.17.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14791; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:20:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hal.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (hal.cl-ki.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.141.2]) by deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA111420 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:20:27 +0100 Received: from localhost (krumeich@localhost) by hal.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA27016 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:19:37 +0100 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:19:37 +0100 (MET) From: Alexander Krumeich To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP600 - Paint issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hello, List! Thanks for all the answers concerning the problem with paint coming off my TP600. I'll keep you updated on the results! Alexander -- Alexander Krumeich http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 14 18:57:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA13796 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20971; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:54:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20855; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:54:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.inreach.com (pager.inreach.com [209.142.0.209]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20822; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from jerryray (209-142-12-16.stk.inreach.net [209.142.12.16]) by mail.inreach.com (8.8.8/8.8.6/(InReach)) with ESMTP id PAA24371 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:45:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811142345.PAA24371@mail.inreach.com> Reply-To: From: "Janice Ray" To: "thinkpad" Subject: Looking for users manual Thinkpad 755cd Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:54:12 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello out there, I am looking for a users manual or a copy of one for a IBM Thinkpad 755 CD. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Janice djmusic@inreach.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 14 19:11:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA13968 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:11:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21462; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:10:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:09:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21376; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21364; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:09:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from wabio (user-38ld2r8.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.139.104]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA21874 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:08:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981114190523.00a1b880@mail.newsguy.com> X-Sender: wicket@mail.newsguy.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:08:10 -0500 To: From: Alan Wong Subject: Solaris on TP 600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello All, I'm considering installing Solaris 7.0 on my TP 600. Has anybody had any experience with this.......any problems. I'm currently running 98 and NT on a dual boot... configured as boot partition (fat)/ 2 gigs, 2 gigs(fat) /last 2 gigs NTFS. Any and all recommendations, tip are welcomed. Warm regards, Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 14 19:45:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14380 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22397; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:43:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22302; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.bctel.ca (mail1.bctel.ca [207.194.28.67]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22289; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:43:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from defiant (00-00-86-1d-bf-b1.bconnected.net [209.53.9.197]) by mail1.bctel.ca with SMTP id QAA20457 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:43:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Ryan Hung" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: TP600: Paint coming off Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:43:01 -0800 Message-ID: <000001be1030$e6359b20$c50935d1@defiant.bconnected.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Wow, this is a relief to know that it's a common problem (paint bubbling off left speaker). I'll probably send it back to IBM over Christmas to get the paint fixed, since I'm using my TP600 for classes. Somebody also wrote about losing sound on a TP380. I also have sporadic sound on the left speaker of my TP600. Has anybody else had that problem? Ryan. _/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/rhung@vcn.bc.ca__/ \__/ \__/ \_Apoptosis=programmed cell death/ \__/ \rwhung@interchange.ubc.ca_/ \__ _/ --you can't live without it!/ \__/ \http://www.vcn.bc.ca/people/rhung \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \My words Copyright (C) 1998 \__ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 14 19:54:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14475 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22826; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:53:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:53:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22744; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:53:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22732; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:53:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from greasygirl (mg128-122.ricochet.net [204.179.128.122]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA13954; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:53:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <057601be1032$4521e110$f6769cce@greasygirl> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Ryan Hung" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: TP600: Paint coming off Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:52:46 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I have sporadic sound on the right speaker. Hmmmm..... > >Somebody also wrote about losing sound on a TP380. I also have sporadic >sound on the left speaker of my TP600. Has anybody else had that problem? > > Ryan. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 15 00:27:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA17281 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00544; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:25:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:23:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00317; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:23:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00266; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:23:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from lou (user-38ldhfi.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.197.242]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA21546 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:23:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981114211144.00832340@mindspring.com> X-Sender: lou1358@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:11:44 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: Lost Sound-TP 380 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have lost the sound. I have adjusted the speaker volume to medium but do not hear anything. Suggestions? Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 15 00:27:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA17286 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:27:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00568; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:25:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:23:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00333; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00273; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:23:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from lou (user-38ldhfi.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.197.242]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA15308 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:23:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981114211248.009be240@mindspring.com> X-Sender: lou1358@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:12:48 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: IR Port/Serial Port-TP380 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have tried to turn off the IR port and turn on the serial port so I can download data from my GPS. I cannot get information from the gps but I don't know if it is the gps or something not working with the serial port input. Suggestions? Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 15 04:51:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA19666 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 04:51:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07780; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 04:49:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 04:48:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07675; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 04:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcom17.netcom.com (phr@netcom17.netcom.com [192.100.81.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07663; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 04:48:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom17.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id BAA26907 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 01:48:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 01:48:37 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199811150948.BAA26907@netcom17.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: x on tp755cx List-Unsubscribe: Yes I ran it before my 755cx broke. You have to use the ps2 utility in msdos to put the screen in 800x600 mode. After that there's an XFConfig file that I got from someone in Australia, that I can send you if you want. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 15 05:12:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA19794 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 05:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08197; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 05:10:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 05:10:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08108; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 05:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix1.seitz.de (unix1.seitz.de [193.102.72.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08082; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 05:09:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from seitz.de (asterix.seitz.de [193.102.73.2]) by unix1.seitz.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA171B; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 11:07:32 +0100 Message-ID: <364EA7F9.68446A66@seitz.de> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 11:07:53 +0100 From: "Adnan Mumbasic" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de CC: I Lee Hetherington , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP600: Paint coming off References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------msCCDDCE4E08BD0D4D2AF33C63" List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------msCCDDCE4E08BD0D4D2AF33C63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Alexander Krumeich wrote: > > Lee, > > > Actually, I lied. EZ-Serve *lost* one of the TP600s. Weeks later they > > sent us a replacement. This is the only problem we've had with many > > uses of EZ-Serve. Still, beware and make sure you strip out as much > > your machine as possible, most importantly your hard disk. > > Thanks for your reply. I think that this EZ-Serve is a marvellous service. > Unfortunately, I doubt that we have a comparable service here in Germany. > Things are less customer-oriented over here, to say the least. I'll give > IBM a call as soon as I have finished my Master Thesis. In the meantime, > I'll help myself with some Scotch tape to prevent further peeling off. > > To the European/German users on the list: Does anybody have experiences > with IBM customer service? > Yes, I have sent my TP770 ED to the IBM service, they repaired and returned it to me after 15 days. It was no problem. 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Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17595; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:15:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:14:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17391; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.mv.net (root@mercury.mv.net [199.125.85.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17379; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from summit.msc.com (meisner.mv.com [207.22.43.6]) by mercury.mv.net (8.8.8/mem-971025) with SMTP id IAA08146 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:12:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.msc.com by summit.msc.com (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id xa001765 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:12:00 -0500 From: "Steve Meisner" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: TP760ED Battery discharge problem Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:11:58 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01be1099$86659ec0$3200a8c0@homer.msc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Recently, the battery (a Lithium Ion) in my TP760ED starting acting odd. Once the battery drains to about 30% (after about 1 to 1.5 Hours) the system beeps (which is fine) but then the remaining power drains very quickly after that. In about 3 or 4 minutes the battery will be dead. I tried completely discharging and recharging the battery twice, but it still acts the same. Is the battery at the end of its life (only 1.5 years)? Steve From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 15 09:08:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA21267 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:08:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18517; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:06:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:05:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18433; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18421; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA09864; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:04:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from alb-ny6-02.ix.netcom.com(198.211.83.66) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma009860; Sun Nov 15 08:04:16 1998 Message-ID: <364EDF6E.81CF38BF@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:04:31 -0500 From: Harvey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Meisner CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP760ED Battery discharge problem References: <000c01be1099$86659ec0$3200a8c0@homer.msc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a 760ed also and have similar problems. After a year the lithium ion batteries will have your symptoms. Obvious they can't be discharged to bring them back to the nominal state, and the only solution is replacement. IBM warrants the lithium ion batteries for only a year. Steve Meisner wrote: > Recently, the battery (a Lithium Ion) in my TP760ED starting acting odd. > Once the battery drains to about 30% (after about 1 to 1.5 Hours) the system > beeps (which is fine) but then the remaining power drains very quickly after > that. In about 3 or 4 minutes the battery will be dead. > > I tried completely discharging and recharging the battery twice, but it > still acts the same. > > Is the battery at the end of its life (only 1.5 years)? > > Steve From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 15 12:40:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA22735 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:40:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23565; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:33:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23364; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:33:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23348; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:32:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9708 invoked by uid 66); 15 Nov 1998 17:31:12 -0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: Solaris on TP 600 Date: 15 Nov 1998 14:18:07 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 13 Message-ID: <72mnqv$tr8$2@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <4.1.19981114190523.00a1b880@mail.newsguy.com> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980618 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i486)) List-Unsubscribe: Alan Wong wrote: > I'm considering installing Solaris 7.0 on my TP 600. Sunsoft stopped X server development in the old days, when the 755CX was around. So no Solaris X Server for the 600. You may want to try XFree86 or XIG's stuff, though. -- Spirtle, n.: The fine stream from a grapefruit that always lands right in your eye. -- Sniglets, "Rich Hall & Friends" From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 15 13:33:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23160 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 13:33:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25094; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 13:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 13:30:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24974; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 13:30:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu (spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu [150.135.52.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24955; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 13:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from e770 (cx-p.opt-sci.arizona.edu [150.135.52.53]) by spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA04021; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 11:28:58 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981115110505.00a30b90@spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu> X-Sender: stu@spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 11:29:16 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Stuart F. Biggar" Subject: Re: Solaris on TP 600 Cc: sammy@newsguy.com In-Reply-To: <72mnqv$tr8$2@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <4.1.19981114190523.00a1b880@mail.newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 02:18 PM 11/15/98 +0000, you wrote: >Alan Wong wrote: > >> I'm considering installing Solaris 7.0 on my TP 600. > >Sunsoft stopped X server development in the old days, when the 755CX was >around. So no Solaris X Server for the 600. You may want to try XFree86 or >XIG's stuff, though. > >-- >Spirtle, n.: > The fine stream from a grapefruit that always lands right in >your eye. > -- Sniglets, "Rich Hall & Friends" Sun went a bit more modern than that - they show support for various 760 models in 2.6 and I actually got 2.6 with Driver Update 3 to run reasonably well on a 765D. However, I had NO luck whatsoever getting x86 2.6 DU-3 (or 5/89 with Maintenance Update-2) to install on my 770E - I got multiple hangs during install leaving the HD unbootable by either the preload NT 4 (SP-3) from IBM or PC-DOS 7 on either a 5 or 8 GB 770 disk using the 10-24X IDE CD-ROM as either a primary IDE slave or secondary IDE master (default in the 770E). I have heard recently however that someone with a 770ED got the Beta Refresh of Solaris 2.7 to install. However, there was no support for the Trident 9397 so he had to run in 16-color VGA at 640x480. I do not know what (if anything) has changed from the Beta Refresh to the shipping version of Solaris 7 that would affect loading on a notebook. Sun has supposed to have dropped all notebook support for x86 Solaris as of version 7 but I don't know if they actually removed previously working stuff. I do know that as of 2.6, the PCMCIA support was poor and that Sun did not support any CardBus cards and that the pcmcia driver (pcic) used any PCMCIA adapter in pcic mode ONLY. Very few new PCMCIA-CardBus bridge chips work with x86. Other machines like the ThinkPad 765 series and the older 770 (not E/ED/X) required a new version of the pcic driver to work in machines with more than 64 MB of RAM. I do know that Xi Graphics sells an Xserver for Linux that supports the 9397 in 24-bit color (I have tried it under RedHat on my 770E) and that they sell an x86 version but I do not know if that works under Solaris 7. If the 600 has the neomagic chipset, I doubt that it will be correctly supported by x86 out of the box if in fact you can install it on your 600. You would probably have to try to configure XFree86 or buy a third party Xserver to get full support of your hardware. The Xi Graphics Xserver is somewhat expensive, especially with the "free" version of Solaris 2.6 or 7. Stuart From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 15 16:11:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA24905 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00727; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:08:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:07:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00590; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:07:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00578; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:07:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from wabio (user-38ld17k.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.132.244]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA25787 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 13:06:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981115155947.00a0f0d0@mail.newsguy.com> X-Sender: wicket@mail.newsguy.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:01:43 -0500 To: From: Alan Wong Subject: Laptop Insurance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: A month back, I remember there was thread about Laptop Insurance. Would anybody recall the company that offers such. It was somewhere along the line of $80 a year...don't remember specifics however (such as screen damage) etc. Have a good thanksgiving all, Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 15 19:00:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA26473 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 19:00:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05519; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:57:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:56:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05404; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:56:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05391; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id QAA02860; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:56:05 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:56:05 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199811152356.QAA02860@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 600E, NT and Linux List-Unsubscribe: Not sure if this is appropriate or not, but I thought I'd just introduce myself to the group, since as of Friday, I am the proud new father of a Thinkpad 600E. The ordering was terrible... I'll share my horrors with CDW to anyone interested. I started the system up, looked at 98, and did what I promised myself what I would do... fdisk the whole drive (6.4gb) and start over. The has 2 bad pixels which light up green, but only if the screen is a certain color. Not too bad. The TFT completely blows away the Toshiba 410CDT it replaced (also TFT). It took me 3 reinstalls, and a lot of late nights, but I successfully got the machine running a dual boot between RedHat 5.2 linux and NT4 workstation. Don't try and use the NT drivers that are on IBM's website. For some reason, they just don't work right. Esp. the Crystal audio ones. Use the included CDs for maximum results. Hibernation is working great on the machine... having given NT a FAT16 partition strictly for that purpose. The rest of the machine is pure NTFS. The v.90 modem upgrade installed fine, and I am getting between 44000 and 48000 connects. My Xircom RealPort gets roughly the same. I may try and aggregate the connections later on. NT complains when you try to suspend with the PC Card inserted, so I just suspend the computer, and have the power management hiberate after 30 minutes of suspend time. Surprise! It works just fine. I also have Linux running with power management enabled, although suspend and hibernate both fail miserably. RedHat 5.2 works great, although I ended up purchasing the OSS audio drivers ($20). The XFree drivers are working really well, although the known problem of shifting pixels appears when the system enters standby. A little annoying. Not sure if the $200 Xig drivers are worthwhile... it's too expensive right now, but I may be annoyed enough to buy it. So I'll end with this question: has anyone successfully had suspend and hibernate working on the Thinkpad 600 under Linux? I'm running kernel 2.0.36, apm enabled. Both hibernate and suspend either lock up the system, or they blank the screen for a moment, and resume immediately. Well, back to reinstalling! -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 15 23:24:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA29099 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:24:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14479; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:20:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14359; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:20:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14347; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.18.10]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 9384100 ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:29:21 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01be1118$0e6f1200$020aa8c0@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad Mailing list" Subject: [TP701]Hybernation size Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:17:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hey there, I recently purchassed a 16mb dimm to increase the total memory to 24meg. When I was using 16, I set the swap file size to 20mb. However, with the 24mb, I can only select 24 or 36. Supposidly you are supposed to use the amount of memory + 1mb. Would I have any problems using the 24mb swap file? This'd save me 8meg worth of temp space. Any sugestions? I'm currently using 36meg of swap space fine. Thanks. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 00:34:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA29924 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:34:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17527; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:29:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:28:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17428; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17416; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:28:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (216.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.216]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id AAA28507; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:28:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <364FB841.A2717B41@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:29:37 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: "David W. Taylor" , Teresa Selling , thinkpad Subject: Re: 8.1 gig in 770 with Win95 solution References: <199811120649.WAA04305@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul... Paul Khoury wrote: > >no way that i know of to get around this unless some later drives have > >this C/H/S thing fixed or changed.. > >the TP 8.1gig has a different FRU # or P/N than the non-TP 8.1gig, even > >though the model # is the same.. > > > Don't they all use LBA now? I'm using an IBM OEM HD in my 701 (that came out of a Toshiba > notebook), and it works fine, though the BIOS shows it as a 347MB drive. > yes, LBA.. or something similar..you don't have an 8gig in your 701.. otherwise it would probably not work either.. its not that the bios of the 770 does not see an 8.1gig drive.. it does.. it is something within win9x that does not correctly identify the 8.1gig drive to win9x.. so a utility is required.. EZ Drive or one of those.. the 701's bios was never intended to report a HDD larger than 720megs, so anything over 1gig will have the high order bit(byte?) stripped off.. thus a 2.1gig HDD will be reported as .1gig.. and this 6.4gig gets reported at .4gig :-) but the machine still sees the entire HDD.. > >re. fat32.. > >i have not experienced any problems with it..! > >though, the utilities will need to be upgraded.. > >just like PQMagic needed an upgrade to deal with the 8.1gig HDD > >mentioned above.. > > > I did notice about FAT 32 is that it's not compatible even with NT. My brother wanted > NT on his computer to connect to my network, but NT said his FAT32 partition table > was corrupted. > > Honestly, I wonder why they couldn't have switched to NTFS, which is more compatible > than FAT32. > because the evil empreor is a putz..! :-) > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html > Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 > ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 00:36:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA29940 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:36:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17893; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:33:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17805; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17756; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (216.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.216]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id AAA29299; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:33:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <364FB96B.CC22AC3E@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:34:35 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: "Richard E. Robbins" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: [TP701] Windows 98? References: <199811120647.WAA04141@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul... 6.4 and 8.1 are the largest available to me thus far.. in fact i just received two boxes of new 6.4gig drives.. the 10gig and the 14~ gig will take a while for me to get.. Paul Khoury wrote: > On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:09:47 -0500, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > >Yes.. > >win98 runs FINE, but a little slower than win95.. > > > >the 701 will also accept the 6.4gig HDD.. so, in spite of the slow cpu, > >it is still a viable little gem.. > > Actually, the original hard drives that shipped with the 701 were Mode 3 drives. > The 1.4GB I stuck in is Mode 4, meaning it transfers data faster, it's also quieter, more > reliable (SMART capable), and faster access times. > I think the largest you have for 12.7mm if I recall now is 10GB, and for 17mm, is 14GB. > And they're comming out with 20GB EIDE drives now, too. > > In fact, I just stuck a 2.1GB drive from a 380 into my 750, and it runs quite fast too, > despite the 33MHz CPU. > > So, a new hard drive will also speed up 98 as opposed to the original noisy and slow HD. > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html > Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 > ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 08:35:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA03564 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:35:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06998; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:33:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:31:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06879; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:31:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06863; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from randolph (rer-2.pr.mcs.net [205.253.105.82]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id HAA03499; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:31:19 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981116072518.00952250@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: rer@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:31:07 -0600 To: Bill Morrow From: "Richard E. Robbins" Subject: Re: [TP701] Windows 98? Cc: Paul Khoury , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" In-Reply-To: <364FB96B.CC22AC3E@icanect.net> References: <199811120647.WAA04141@ritchie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I've placed a 4.3 Gig Toshiba drive in my 701 and am having all sort of problems attempting to install Win98. The problem is that Scandisk constantly reports that there are problems with the FAT or that various files have the wrong size reported. The bios does not see the entire disk, however, FDISK can see the entire disk. I've limited my self to working with a 2.1 gig partition (FAT16). Going to FAT32 doesn't help nor does using EZ-Drive. Sometimes I get through the disk initialization portion of the install but then I get an error that sound.drv or vga.drv or keyboard.drv can't be loaded. By the way, when I installed the drive in the caddy, I noticed that the connector leaves four pins exposed. Is that normal? I looked at one other drive in a caddy and it had the same four pins exposed. -- Rich At 12:34 AM 11/16/98 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >Paul... >6.4 and 8.1 are the largest available to me thus far.. >in fact i just received two boxes of new 6.4gig drives.. > >the 10gig and the 14~ gig will take a while for me to get.. > >Paul Khoury wrote: > >> On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:09:47 -0500, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >> >> >Yes.. >> >win98 runs FINE, but a little slower than win95.. >> > >> >the 701 will also accept the 6.4gig HDD.. so, in spite of the slow cpu, >> >it is still a viable little gem.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 09:03:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA03809 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08640; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:57:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:57:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08528; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from ssec.wisc.edu (ssec.wisc.edu [144.92.108.61]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08514; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.ssec.wisc.edu (mail.ssec.wisc.edu [144.92.108.227]) by ssec.wisc.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA92315 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:57:07 -0600 Received: by mail.ssec.wisc.edu with ADMIN;16 Nov 1998 07:56:01 -0600 Message-ID: <3650331F.329B1B16@ssec.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:13:51 -0600 From: Paul Schnettler Reply-To: paulsch@ssec.wisc.edu Organization: UW-Space Science & Engineering Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad list server submit Subject: re:Linux X windows config on a TP755cx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I think my problems with X stem from not bringing up ps2. Anyone know which config disk this is on? Thanks, Paul S. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 09:42:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA04164 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10159; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:24:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10056; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:24:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from devil.prz.tu-berlin.de (devil.prz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.62.214]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10004; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:23:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michey@localhost) by devil.prz.tu-berlin.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA29423; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:22:08 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: devil.prz.tu-berlin.de: michey owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:22:07 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Eyrich To: Paul Schnettler cc: Thinkpad list server submit Subject: re:Linux X windows config on a TP755cx In-Reply-To: <3650331F.329B1B16@ssec.wisc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: uttpg101.exe or uttpg201.exe you may find it at ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/ Regards Michael -- Michael Eyrich, PRZ, TU-Berlin michey@prz.tu-berlin.de On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Paul Schnettler wrote: | I think my problems with X stem from not bringing up ps2. | Anyone know which config disk this is on? | Thanks, | Paul S. | From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 13:00:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA06527 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:00:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19945; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:05:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19676; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:05:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19652; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA07716 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:04:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.34.207.123]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with ESMTP id <19981116170150.FLCO1136@mci.com> for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:01:50 -0600 Sender: teresa@mci.com Message-ID: <36505A4B.D60623A9@mci.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:00:59 -0700 From: Teresa Selling X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/859) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Trade my 8gig drive for your 5gig drive References: <199811120647.WAA04141@ritchie.loop.com> <4.1.19981116072518.00952250@popmail.mcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Having to load EzDrive to load win95 is really bugging me... and I don't really need the extra disk space. So, if anyone wants to swap their 5gig drive +$100 for my 8gig drive let me know. Be aware that because of the way the drive reports its geometry, you must load EzDrive for Win95/98 or it will use the drive in DOS compatibility mode. For Linux you must specify the drive geometry. Can swap just the bare drive... or if you have a 770 and don't want to take the drive out of the caddie, can swap with caddie and all. The 8 gig is in an OEM 770 caddie I got from Bill Morrow. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 13:24:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA06946 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24775; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:00:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23913; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:00:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu (martigny.ai.mit.edu [18.43.1.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23886; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:00:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ravna.ai.mit.edu (flenser.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.114.236]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA06475; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:59:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:59:31 -0500 (EST) From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: alee@cavecreations.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-reply-to: (owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU) Subject: thinkpad digest for Mon, 16 Nov 1998 X-Mailer: Edwin [version 3.93, MIT Scheme Release 7.5a] List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:56:05 -0700 From: "Albert C. Lee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu So I'll end with this question: has anyone successfully had suspend and hibernate working on the Thinkpad 600 under Linux? I'm running kernel 2.0.36, apm enabled. Both hibernate and suspend either lock up the system, or they blank the screen for a moment, and resume immediately. You must edit the kernel file "drivers/char/apm_bios.c" and make this change: diff -ub drivers/char/apm_bios.c.~1~ drivers/char/apm_bios.c --- drivers/char/apm_bios.c.~1~ Tue Nov 3 01:13:54 1998 +++ drivers/char/apm_bios.c Wed Nov 4 23:23:52 1998 @@ -164,7 +164,7 @@ * Define to disable interrupts in APM BIOS calls (the CPU Idle BIOS call * should turn interrupts on before it does a 'hlt'). */ -#define APM_NOINTS +#undef APM_NOINTS /* * Define to make the APM BIOS calls zero all data segment registers (do From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 13:30:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA07021 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:28:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25600; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:22:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:21:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25327; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25147; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p37.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.100]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA18821; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:12:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811161812.KAA18821@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow" Cc: "Richard E. Robbins" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 16 Nov 98 10:16:10 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP701] Windows 98? List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:34:35 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >Paul... >6.4 and 8.1 are the largest available to me thus far.. >in fact i just received two boxes of new 6.4gig drives.. > >the 10gig and the 14~ gig will take a while for me to get.. Oh. Well, where I work, we still only have up to 4GB (which is sorta small). One of our desktops has 128MB of RAM, and 10GB of HD. That's sure be nice to come standard in a notebook. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 14:29:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA07880 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:29:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01825; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:23:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:21:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01419; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:21:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01392; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:21:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA00580; Mon, 16 Nov 98 14:16:16 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <36507A00.E14C3BB3@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:16:16 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Albert C. Lee" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E, NT and Linux References: <199811152356.QAA02860@cavecreations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You should be able to get suspend/resume in Linux to work on your machine. You need to build a new kernel with APM_NOINTS (or something like that) #undef'ed in drivers/char/apm_bios.c. I'm running 2.0.35 like this. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 14:31:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA07907 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:30:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01183; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:19:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:18:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01047; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:18:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01030; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:18:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-224-101.usc.edu [128.125.224.101]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id LAA16908 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:18:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981116111607.009deca0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:18:06 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Donating a laptop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi, There was someone on this list some time back who informed me that if I wanted to, I could donate my broken TP 560 to a non-profit organization that would allow me to take a tax deduction for the donation. I'm thinking I might like to do that before the end of the year. Would the person who once wrote to me about that send me a private e-mail again? Apologies to the list for bugging you on this... --- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net "It is hard to convince a high-school student that he will encounter a lot of problems more difficult than those of algebra and geometry," -- Edgar W. Howe in "Country Town Sayings", 1911. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 14:43:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA08101 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:43:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01157; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:19:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:14:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00556; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:14:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00508; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA00561; Mon, 16 Nov 98 14:13:57 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <36507975.ED141713@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:13:57 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Albert C. Lee" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E, NT and Linux References: <199811152356.QAA02860@cavecreations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: "Albert C. Lee" wrote: > The has 2 bad pixels which light up green, but only if the screen is a > certain color. Not too bad. The TFT completely blows away the > Toshiba 410CDT it replaced (also TFT). Of the 12 TP600s I've seen, I haven't seen a single bad pixel. --Lee From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 16:38:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA09958 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26970; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:35:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:34:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26848; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from vex.net (vex.net [198.96.119.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26835; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (1068 bytes) by vex.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:34:13 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #3 built 1997-Oct-29) Received: from vex.net(198.96.119.193) via SMTP by vex.net, id smtpd06110a; Mon Nov 16 13:34:11 1998 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:34:11 -0500 (EST) From: Golan Klinger To: Thinkpad List Subject: Win98 on a 560 and list archives. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: First off, is there an archive of this list? I'm thinking about installing Win98 on a 560 and I'm sure this topic was covered (probably to death) so I'd like to spare everyone the rehashing. In the meantime, if you have any tips (or warnings) about the upgrade, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Golan Klinger [falco@vex.net] For long you live and high you fly And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry Good, fast or cheap. And all you touch and all you see Pick two... Is all your life will ever be From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 16:39:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA09967 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25548; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:22:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:21:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25356; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:21:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25205; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:19:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p37.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.100]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA18925; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:13:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811161813.KAA18925@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow" , "Richard E. Robbins" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 16 Nov 98 10:17:31 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP701] Windows 98? List-Unsubscribe: > >By the way, when I installed the drive in the caddy, I noticed that the >connector leaves four pins exposed. Is that normal? I looked at one other >drive in a caddy and it had the same four pins exposed. This is normal, but the original drive has the farthest two pins from the connector shorted, to mark it as the primary master drive. Most drives now do not need this. >-- Rich > > >At 12:34 AM 11/16/98 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >>Paul... >>6.4 and 8.1 are the largest available to me thus far.. >>in fact i just received two boxes of new 6.4gig drives.. >> >>the 10gig and the 14~ gig will take a while for me to get.. >> >>Paul Khoury wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:09:47 -0500, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com >wrote: >>> >>> >Yes.. >>> >win98 runs FINE, but a little slower than win95.. >>> > >>> >the 701 will also accept the 6.4gig HDD.. so, in spite of the slow cpu, >>> >it is still a viable little gem.. > > -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 17:07:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA10462 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13021; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:54:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12804; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:54:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from marlin.nosc.mil (root@marlin.nosc.mil [128.49.4.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12549; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:50:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from dseaman (seaman.nosc.mil [128.49.190.51]) by marlin.nosc.mil (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA00414 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:50:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Derek Seaman" To: Subject: MICs on TPs Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:55:33 -0800 Message-ID: <001901be11ab$d588ba60$33be3180@dseaman.spawar.navy.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: A friend of mine bought a cool microphone/headset for her TP 600. However it doesn't work. I remember reading something about TPs needing a self powered mic or an adapter? Could someone please send me some information on what I need to make her current setup work. Thanks, From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 17:49:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA11188 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15483; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:36:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:36:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15388; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:36:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15374; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from bp ([12.77.216.38]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981116223444.NFOG595@bp>; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:34:44 +0000 Message-ID: <3650A8AC.3B0B@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:35:24 -0500 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Seaman CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: MICs on TPs References: <001901be11ab$d588ba60$33be3180@dseaman.spawar.navy.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Derek Seaman wrote: > > A friend of mine bought a cool microphone/headset for her TP 600. However it > doesn't work. Thats why its cool. All kidding aside. You need bias battery box or ThinkPad adapter converter. You can get from Andrea or go vist http://www.speecontrol.com Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 18:50:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12121 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:50:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18681; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:34:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:31:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18472; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:31:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.eclipse.net (root@mail.eclipse.net [207.207.192.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18459; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:31:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from cnj1-06-41.eclipse.net (cnj1-06-41.eclipse.net [207.207.244.41]) by mail.eclipse.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA24281 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:32:24 -0500 (EST) From: mdash@plexsys.com (Michael D. Scheer) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: mwave v.90 upgrade question Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:32:20 GMT Message-ID: <36509943.28483148@mail.eclipse.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone installed this upgrade and subsequently experienced (routinely) BOTH faster connections AND reliable training? Thanks. --Mike Scheer, mdash@plexsys.com, 908-273-1885 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 21:21:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA13793 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:21:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25368; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:02:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25210; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:02:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp0-alterdial.uu.net (smtp0-alterdial.UU.NET [192.48.96.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25197; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:02:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from 600e by smtp0-alterdial.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: 1Cust53.tnt14.chi5.da.uu.net [153.36.172.53]) id QQfpvc10096 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:02:14 GMT Message-ID: <199811162102430041.011C9CA0@mail77195.smtpserver.pop.net> References: <199811162058230718.0118A7A5@mail77195.smtpserver.pop.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Evaluation Version 2.40.41.04 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:02:43 -0500 From: "Michael Mahoney" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 600E Nt and SP4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I tried sp4 for windows NT on my 600E and got a conflict with the video= driver. When I couldn't locate the conflict with the diagnostics program I= called IBM. It seems that the video driver was trying to load twice and= created a conflict with itself. I am wondering if anybody else has tried and had the same problem, or if= anybody as loaded sp4 successfully. Thanks Michael Mahoney mahoneym@pop.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 21:57:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA14262 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27553; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:50:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:48:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27409; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27397; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:48:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA10647; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:48:07 -1000 Message-ID: <006501be11dd$0c739aa0$b2c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Steve Meisner" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: TP760ED Battery discharge problem Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:47:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >Is the battery at the end of its life (only 1.5 years)? Li-Ion batteries are good for some number of cycles, usually from 300 to 500. When these cycles are used up, the battery will more likely die quickly than fade away. This is just the nature of Li-Ion (as opposed to NIMH and NiCAD, the latter of which has the longest life as measured in cycles). - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 22:01:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA14320 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:01:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27952; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:55:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:54:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27826; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:54:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27808; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:54:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA10697; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:54:07 -1000 Message-ID: <009e01be11dd$e31e2200$b2c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Albert C. Lee" , Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E, NT and Linux Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:53:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >father of a Thinkpad 600E. The ordering was terrible... I'll share my >horrors with CDW to anyone interested. Interesting - I think CDW is a popular vendor for people on this list, one reason being a fairly comprehensive collection of Thinkpads and TP-specific peripherals. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 22:18:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA14546 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:18:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26343; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:23:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:22:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26198; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26180; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from greasygirl (mg131-180.ricochet.net [204.179.131.180]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA20780; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:21:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002601be11d1$032647b0$f6769cce@greasygirl> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Michael Mahoney" , Subject: Re: 600E Nt and SP4 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:21:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I am happily using NT 4.0 SP4 on a ThinkPad 600 (233PII). There were no problems at all during the installation of SP4 and my PPTP connections seem to be much more stable now. The only other change that I have noted is the NT WS graphic reappearing at ShutDown. David >I tried sp4 for windows NT on my 600E and got a conflict with the video driver. When I couldn't locate the conflict with the diagnostics program I called IBM. It seems that the video driver was trying to load twice and created a conflict with itself. > >I am wondering if anybody else has tried and had the same problem, or if anybody as loaded sp4 successfully. > >Thanks > >Michael Mahoney >mahoneym@pop.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 22:49:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA14998 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:49:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00439; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:47:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:46:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00327; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from netdoor.com (root@netdoor.com [208.137.128.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00314; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from robson (port17.stk.netdoor.com [208.137.149.81]) by netdoor.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA19799 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:46:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004601be11dd$d63fc2a0$879589d0@robson> From: "SK560" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: [tp560] pcmcia combo card Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:53:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: i just got a motorola mariner pcmcia modem with lan. does anyone has experience setting up combo card? this is the 1st time i'm dealing with this kind of card. win98 is not recognizing it as a multi function adapter. win98 is not using the inf file provided by motorola (win95 version in mot.com). win98 is not reporting the real connection speed..... showing 230400bps!!!!!! help is really needed. thanks. seekit From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 23:52:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA15851 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03047; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:48:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02741; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:48:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02723; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA03006 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:48:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:48:04 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E, NT and Linux In-Reply-To: <009e01be11dd$e31e2200$b2c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, David Ross wrote: > >father of a Thinkpad 600E. The ordering was terrible... I'll share my > >horrors with CDW to anyone interested. > > Interesting - I think CDW is a popular vendor for people on this list, > one reason being a fairly comprehensive collection of Thinkpads > and TP-specific peripherals. www.resellerratings.com CDW is actually pretty highly rated. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 16 23:52:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA15857 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:52:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02937; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:50:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:47:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02671; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02655; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:47:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp.binghamton.edu ([128.226.136.26]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA29540 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:47:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811170447.XAA29540@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:47:22 -0500 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TPmodem] Upgrade to v.90 from x2 risky? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have a 770ED, with Win95 OSR2. Is there any possible drawback to running the v.90 upgrade on the modem? I already have the x2 upgrade. Is it possible that a provider supports x2, but not v.90, so lower connect speeds may result from the upgrade? Or are all protocols supported? Thanks. Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 00:16:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA16160 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:16:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29501; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:24:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29344; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.mv.net (root@mercury.mv.net [199.125.85.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29264; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:22:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from summit.msc.com (meisner.mv.com [207.22.43.6]) by mercury.mv.net (8.8.8/mem-971025) with SMTP id WAA13434 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:21:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.msc.com by summit.msc.com (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id ua001788 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:20:55 -0500 From: "Steve Meisner" To: "David Ross" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: TP760ED Battery discharge problem Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:20:54 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01be11d9$48e38bc0$3200a8c0@homer.msc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <006501be11dd$0c739aa0$b2c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: So are you saying it doesn't sound like the battery is going? If so, do you have any ideas as to what is going on? Thanks for the reply, Steve -----Original Message----- From: David Ross [mailto:ross@math.hawaii.edu] Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 10:48 PM To: Steve Meisner; ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP760ED Battery discharge problem >Is the battery at the end of its life (only 1.5 years)? Li-Ion batteries are good for some number of cycles, usually from 300 to 500. When these cycles are used up, the battery will more likely die quickly than fade away. This is just the nature of Li-Ion (as opposed to NIMH and NiCAD, the latter of which has the longest life as measured in cycles). - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 00:37:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA16402 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05171; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:34:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05017; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05004; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:33:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from [12.79.13.139] by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19981117053326.DRKJ29729@[12.79.13.139]>; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 05:33:26 +0000 From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "Thinkpad" , "Ken" Subject: Re: [TPmodem] Upgrade to v.90 from x2 risky? Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:34:21 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19981117053326.DRKJ29729@[12.79.13.139]> List-Unsubscribe: I upgraded two modems to V90, then discovered that my home phone lines don't support it! Got knocked off line constantly. Finally, my ISP gave me a setting to disable the V90. Now I connect at 31,200, but can stay on all night! ---------- > From: Ken > To: Thinkpad > Subject: [TPmodem] Upgrade to v.90 from x2 risky? > Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 11:47 PM > > I have a 770ED, with Win95 OSR2. Is there any possible drawback to running > the v.90 upgrade on the modem? I already have the x2 upgrade. > > Is it possible that a provider supports x2, but not v.90, so lower connect > speeds may result from the upgrade? Or are all protocols supported? > > Thanks. > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 02:45:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA17833 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:45:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08629; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:44:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:42:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08498; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08486; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:42:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (232.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.232]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA22433; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:42:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36512940.882A8B8C@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:44:00 -0500 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Teresa Selling CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Trade my 8gig drive for your 5gig drive References: <199811120647.WAA04141@ritchie.loop.com> <4.1.19981116072518.00952250@popmail.mcs.net> <36505A4B.D60623A9@mci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Teresa.. NT supports the 8.1gig drive without needing EZ Drive.. Teresa Selling wrote: > > Having to load EzDrive to load win95 is really bugging me... and I don't > really need the extra disk space. So, if anyone wants to swap their > 5gig drive +$100 for my 8gig drive let me know. Be aware that because > of the way the drive reports its geometry, you must load EzDrive for > Win95/98 or it will use the drive in DOS compatibility mode. For Linux > you must specify the drive geometry. Can swap just the bare drive... > or if you have a 770 and don't want to take the drive out of the caddie, > can swap with caddie and all. The 8 gig is in an OEM 770 caddie I got from > Bill Morrow. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 260meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.4gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver, Do not try this at home, Don't spit into the wind AND, GoodNIGHT, Mrs. Calabash, whereEVER you are... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 05:58:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA19326 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 05:58:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA20961; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 05:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 05:56:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA20877; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 05:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA20865; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 05:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p04.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.67]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA18086; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:55:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811171055.CAA18086@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , "Teresa Selling" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 17 Nov 98 02:54:58 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Trade my 8gig drive for your 5gig drive List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:44:00 -0500, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >Teresa.. >NT supports the 8.1gig drive without needing EZ Drive.. OS/2 should support it too with an upgraded IBM1S506.ADD driver (because I know you use OS/2 also). Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 10:28:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21475 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:28:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01048; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:26:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:23:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00659; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:23:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00560; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:22:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta2.mcit.com (omta2.mcit.com [166.37.204.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA11622 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:21:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.37.1.64]) by omta2.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with ESMTP id <19981117152124.RDHY21581@mci.com> for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:21:24 -0600 Message-ID: <36519426.8E63064D@mci.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:20:07 -0700 From: Teresa Selling X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Trade my 8gig drive for your 5gig drive References: <199811120647.WAA04141@ritchie.loop.com> <4.1.19981116072518.00952250@popmail.mcs.net> <36505A4B.D60623A9@mci.com> <36512940.882A8B8C@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: But NT doesn't have a DVD movie player... one of the reasons I need to load Win95. Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > Teresa.. > NT supports the 8.1gig drive without needing EZ Drive.. > > Teresa Selling wrote: > > > > Having to load EzDrive to load win95 is really bugging me... and I don't > > really need the extra disk space. So, if anyone wants to swap their > > 5gig drive +$100 for my 8gig drive let me know. Be aware that because > > of the way the drive reports its geometry, you must load EzDrive for > > Win95/98 or it will use the drive in DOS compatibility mode. For Linux > > you must specify the drive geometry. Can swap just the bare drive... > > or if you have a 770 and don't want to take the drive out of the caddie, > > can swap with caddie and all. The 8 gig is in an OEM 770 caddie I got from > > Bill Morrow. > > -- > Happy Trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 260meg), > 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), > 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), > 701C(6.4gig, 40meg), > 755CE(no gig, 40meg), > 750C(no gig, 4meg), > IBM WorkPad(1meg) > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > vary, Done on a > closed road with a professional driver, Do not try this at home, Don't > spit into the wind AND, > GoodNIGHT, Mrs. Calabash, whereEVER you are... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 10:42:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21639 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:42:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02271; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:39:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:37:41 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01796; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id KAA15262 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:37:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (root@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.134.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17923; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:13:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtwang@localhost (fake: stdin (HELO localhost) (ident: uid#20647@localhost)) by calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <366713-17366>; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:13:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:13:16 -0500 (EST) Sender: Gerald Wang From: Gerald Wang X-Sender: gtwang@calum Reply-To: Gerald Wang To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP701] Windows 98? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981111230432.0080c820@rust.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Bill Bryan wrote: > At 10:37 PM 11/10/98 -0600, you wrote: > >Has anyone managed to get Windows 98 running on a Thinkpad 701 C? > > > >My machine has the 75 Mhz processor, 40 Meg of memory and ample disk space. > > > I had to switch back to 95. Everything that I have read states Win 98 will > run slower on a low end processor and after playing with it, I would agree. > 95 is snappier. I wanted 98 for the advanced power management stuff (full I have two P90 desktops at home - one with 32MB of memory and the other with 16MB. Both were running Win95 (and quite well I might add) until a couple of months ago when I upgraded both to Win98. Overall I've been quite pleased with Win98 - the multitasking seems a lot more responsive than with Win95 and once you disable the animated pop-ups and such I find it just as "snappy" as Win95 was. However, it does use up more memory and I wouldn't recommend it for 16MB machines (there will be noticeable disk-swapping). With 32MB or more it runs great. What I like most about Win98 is its stability and built-in hardware support - I've not had to reformat my drives yet! Oh yes, some things are noticeably faster under Win98; in particular the playback of video clips using the new ActiveMovie Control. That's all I can think of for now. Regards, Gerald From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 10:49:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21700 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02480; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:37:52 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01844; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:37:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id KAA15272 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:37:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp5.teleport.com (smtp5.teleport.com [192.108.254.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12490; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:50:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14985 invoked from network); 16 Nov 1998 21:49:50 -0000 Received: from usertest.teleport.com (HELO user2.teleport.com) (pccare@192.108.254.19) by smtp5.teleport.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 1998 21:49:50 -0000 Received: (from pccare@localhost) by user2.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA13553; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:49:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:49:40 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick West To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: HP200LX extension (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: This query comes from another list I'm on. Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:39:28 -0800 From: Donald Collins Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Donald Collins To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: HP200LX extension I'm considering purchasing a cheap laptop as an extension to my Palmtop. Mostly to use the keyboard and PCMCIA slot to backup and update data. After buying the December issue of COMPUTER SHOPPER I found 48 laptops for under $500USD. I even made a GDB file if anyone is interested. My question is... I'm looking into a IBM TP700 (486SL/25) for $195 and would like to know if anyone has experience with same. I remember some old laptop keyboards were hard to type on (keys were stubborn). I also need to find our if my 20MB Viking Flash card will be recognized. How hard is it to setup the drivers in DOS? Any advice? Don. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 10:53:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21737 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02567; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:38:13 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01912; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id KAA15292 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00923; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta2.mcit.com (omta2.mcit.com [166.37.204.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA17560 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:25:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.37.1.64]) by omta2.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with ESMTP id <19981117152508.REGY21581@mci.com> for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:25:08 -0600 Message-ID: <36519507.53AC46E0@mci.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:23:51 -0700 From: Teresa Selling X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Trade my 8gig drive for your 5gig drive References: <199811171055.CAA18086@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: OS/2 does... but I need GPS software and CDPD modem software that will work with goamerica. Neither of which are available for OS/2. So looks like I will have to switch to Win95. Unfortunately its not a very stable OS, I am always having to reboot Win95. Cannot use Win98 because my IBM LanEntry wireless network adapters won't work with Win98 and the 770s. Paul Khoury wrote: > On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:44:00 -0500, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > >Teresa.. > >NT supports the 8.1gig drive without needing EZ Drive.. > > OS/2 should support it too with an upgraded IBM1S506.ADD driver (because I know > you use OS/2 also). > > Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html > Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, > Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 10:55:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21762 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:54:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03127; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:40:17 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02381; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:40:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id KAA15344 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:40:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix1.seitz.de (unix1.seitz.de [193.102.72.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07423; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 04:33:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from seitz.de (asterix.seitz.de [193.102.73.2]) by unix1.seitz.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA16B8; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:31:51 +0100 Message-ID: <364E9F9F.34E52BAA@seitz.de> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:32:15 +0100 From: "Adnan Mumbasic" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: djmusic@inreach.com CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: Looking for users manual Thinkpad 755cd References: <199811142345.PAA24371@mail.inreach.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------msAFC96FCC004232B516006DF8" List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------msAFC96FCC004232B516006DF8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Janice Ray wrote: > > Hello out there, I am looking for a users manual or a copy of one for a > IBM Thinkpad 755 CD. > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Janice djmusic@inreach.com Take a look at IBMīs homepage, there is a section for Think Pad Support where you can find all manuals online. Download it and print it. 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Nobody in the region stocks that "Y" cable and ordering it from the States is an unbelievable pain. A cable like that can't be that complicated to build; anybody know where to get a schematic, or maybe have a spare they'd like to unload? Thanks-- Larry Larry Miller Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste La Paz, BCS Mexico From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 11:02:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA21847 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02101; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:37:14 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01752; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id KAA15249 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:37:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from valis.olywa.net (olywa.net [205.163.58.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29535; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 15:31:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from psynet.net ([208.1.124.9]) by valis.olywa.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-56662U5000L500S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:31:28 -0800 Message-ID: <364F3A16.7BB455C@psynet.net> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:31:18 -0800 From: J Organization: ear's mind X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Discharging of Li-Ion Battery References: <199811120751.PAA12163@klingon.upnaway.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I have heard it is a good idea to take out your battery if you are not using it. This should lessen the need to dis/recharge so often, as there will be less energy leaking. Now, speaking of the discharge function.....WHY doesnt my 365xd have it?? Does anyone know if it is something I can add? The alternative manual process is a pain. thanks, james From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 12:35:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA23078 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09642; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:23:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09503; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09490; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:23:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811171723.MAA09490@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Wed, 16 Nov 1988 10:19:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Victor Kress" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:23:16 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: CDW List-Unsubscribe: For those who care about these things, CDW advertizes on local hate talk radio. That's enough for a boycot from me. On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:48:04 -0500 (EST), John Kim wrote: >On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, David Ross wrote: >> >www.resellerratings.com > >CDW is actually pretty highly rated. > >-- >John H. Kim >kim@stormhaven.org > ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 13:58:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA24316 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14883; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:49:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14672; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:49:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from docws002.shl.com (docws002.shl.com [159.249.56.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14627; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com (ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.24]) by docws002.shl.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17721; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:52:24 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199811171852.LAA17721@docws002.shl.com> Received: by ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:46:15 -0500 From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: Derek Seaman , BirgerPetterson Subject: RE: MICs on TPs Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:48:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Actually http://www.speecHControl.com Ciao,Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect Ottawa Global Delivery Centre, SHL Systemhouse an MCI Company :^*+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax:232-5182:^* *^} ttrottier@shl.com http://www.shl.com *^} *:)50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada*:) ~Questions answered, answers questioned~ ---------- From: BirgerPetterson [SMTP:BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net] Sent: 1998 November 16 - Monday 17:35 To: Derek Seaman Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: MICs on TPs Derek Seaman wrote: > > A friend of mine bought a cool microphone/headset for her TP 600. However it > doesn't work. Thats why its cool. All kidding aside. You need bias battery box or ThinkPad adapter converter. You can get from Andrea or go vist Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 15:23:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25524 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:23:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17024; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:27:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:25:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16822; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16659; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:22:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA10964; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:21:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from alb-ny6-13.ix.netcom.com(198.211.83.77) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma010848; Tue Nov 17 13:20:42 1998 Message-ID: <3651CC95.DCA3443F@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:20:53 -0500 From: Harvey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: J CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Discharging of Li-Ion Battery References: <199811120751.PAA12163@klingon.upnaway.com> <364F3A16.7BB455C@psynet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Lithium ion batteries and not be discharged and charged for any beneficial purpose. However there is no clear agreement whether a constant tickle charge helps or hurts the lithium ion battery. J wrote: > Hi, > I have heard it is a good idea to take out your battery if you are not > using it. This should lessen the need to dis/recharge so often, as > there will be less energy leaking. > > Now, speaking of the discharge function.....WHY doesnt my 365xd > have it?? Does anyone know if it is something I can add? > The alternative manual process is a pain. > > thanks, > james From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 15:33:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25635 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:33:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20478; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:22:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:19:42 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20319; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:19:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id PAA17217 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17079; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:28:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA11860; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:27:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from alb-ny6-13.ix.netcom.com(198.211.83.77) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma011838; Tue Nov 17 13:27:07 1998 Message-ID: <3651CE19.23AF150@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:27:22 -0500 From: Harvey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Wong CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Laptop Insurance References: <4.1.19981115155947.00a0f0d0@mail.newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Try the ads in Wired and the various laptop mags. A better approach would be to add a rider to your homeowners or tenant policies because you'll get better coverage. Alan Wong wrote: > A month back, I remember there was thread about Laptop Insurance. > > Would anybody recall the company that offers such. > It was somewhere along the line of $80 a year...don't remember specifics > however (such as screen damage) etc. > > Have a good thanksgiving all, > Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 16:25:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA26304 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:25:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24198; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:10:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23904; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23846; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:10:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id PAA02406 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:10:03 -0600 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:10:02 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Request for battery source Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Where do you folks buy replacement batteries? I have a 755CX I want to sell, but its battery is dead, and a new battery might help it sell at the price I'd like. It's also getting hard to find batteries for a machine this old in stock anywhere. If you've got a slightly used one you might want to dump, let me know about that, too. It should take IBM 29H9329 (LiION) or 85G8561 (NiMH) or equivalent. Many thanks, Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 17:09:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA26913 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:09:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26865; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:51:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:48:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26580; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:47:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26534; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:47:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from leland.stanford.edu (Banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.64.168.119]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8/L) with ESMTP id NAA06154; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:46:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3651EEB9.69FA837D@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:46:33 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh Reply-To: benkoh@NOSPAMleland.stanford.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Larry Miller CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP 385XT Keyboard cable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Larry, Did you try installing the USB supplement for Win95? Win95c and Win98 have USB support but earlier versions need the supplement. If you've already tried that and failed, the Y-cable does not need to be IBM-branded - Belkin sells one specifically for Thinkpads, and a generic noname cable from your local parts shop may work as well. Bring the laptop to the shop and try it on the spot! FWIW, I got my noname adapter >from Fry's Electronics for $6.95, and it works fine even though the keyboard itself has an AT-style connector and uses a convertor to plug into the PS/2 connector. Cheapest Belkin adapter was $13.95 and IBM adapter was around $30, both on www.shopper.com. YMMV. Benjamin Larry Miller wrote: > > Hi, Folks-- > > Well, I just got back from the 'States with a spiffy new Microsoft > ergonometric PS-2/USB keyboard and discover that it won't work with USB on > Win95, and I need a special "Y" cable to connect the thing to the PS-2 > port on the Thinkpad. Nobody in the region stocks that "Y" cable and > ordering it from the States is an unbelievable pain. A cable like that > can't be that complicated to build; anybody know where to get a schematic, > or maybe have a spare they'd like to unload? > > Thanks-- Larry > > Larry Miller > Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste > La Paz, BCS Mexico From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 18:02:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA27581 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:02:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00332; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:51:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29945; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:51:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from send102.yahoomail.com (send102.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29841; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:49:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981117225124.17792.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Received: from [203.12.178.133] by send102.yahoomail.com; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:51:24 PST Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:51:24 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Scott Reply-To: cnscott@zip.com.au Subject: v.90 upgrade To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I have issued the ATW2 command in the "extra settings" section of modems in control panel to report DCE speed but this seems to have no effect after the upgrade. Hyperterminal reports speed ok. Any suggestions? ps is there a better (freeware) modem light indicator that the piece of crap that comes with the upgrade? (why doesnt the program "hide" when it is told to!!!) c. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 18:17:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA27785 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:17:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01651; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:13:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:11:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01479; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx (cortes.cibnor.mx [200.23.161.225]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01462; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:11:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx by cortes.cibnor.mx id aa16382; 17 Nov 98 16:10 MST Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:10:52 -0700 (MST) From: Larry Miller To: benkoh@leland.stanford.edu cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP 385XT Keyboard cable In-Reply-To: <3651EEB9.69FA837D@leland.stanford.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > Did you try installing the USB supplement for Win95? Win95c and Win98 > have USB support but earlier versions need the supplement. Yes, it's installed. Someone who seemed to know told me that Win95, even with the supplement, is limited to a set of devices which do not include User Interface Devices such as keyboards. > the Y-cable does not need to be > IBM-branded - Belkin sells one specifically for Thinkpads, and a generic > noname cable from your local parts shop may work as well. Mmmm... local parts shop. No disrespect implied, but you aparently haven't spent much time in this neck of the woods. :> La Paz, in many respects, is like island apart, and my mouth waters at the variety and availability of computer stuff available up there in California. One can find a variety of parts here, but that's kindof a specialty item and I expect I'm gonna end up "rolling my own" if I can get a pinout somewhere. > laptop to the shop and try it on the spot! FWIW, I got my noname adapter > from Fry's Electronics for $6.95, and it works fine even though the > keyboard itself has an AT-style connector and uses a convertor to plug > into the PS/2 connector. Cheapest Belkin adapter was $13.95 and IBM > adapter was around $30, both on www.shopper.com. YMMV. Thanks for the info. I'll look around more seriously for a generic cable. Anybody know if IBM has cable diagrams available on their site anywhere? Saludos-- Larry From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 19:11:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA28484 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:11:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04300; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:08:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:07:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04128; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mhro1.mayo.edu (mhro1.mayo.edu [129.176.100.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04115; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:07:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from fermat.mayo.edu by mhro1.mayo.edu with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:30:58 -0600 Received: from feynman.Mayo.EDU (feynman [129.176.212.47]) by fermat.mayo.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA17539 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:30:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from feynman by feynman.Mayo.EDU (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA29528; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:30:59 -0600 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:30:58 -0600 (CST) From: "James P. Grenert" X-Sender: grenert@feynman To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Bus Toaster drivers Message-Id: Organization: Mayo Medical School MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi. I am trying to set up a New Media Bus Toaster SCSI card under Win3.1. The drivers supplied with it (via a third party) don't seem to do anything. Actually, the drivers never seem to get extracted, so I don't have any. Could someone please email them to me? The files are: BTASPI.SYS CUNI_ASP.SYS CORELCDX.COM My PCMCIA drivers are OK, because the PC Card Director sees and recognizes the card, but that's about as far as things go. I'm trying to use the card to hook up an NEC CD-ROM drive. New Media seems to be kaput, as its website is not up. Thanks for any help! J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 19:25:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA28685 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:25:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04748; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:14:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04592; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (daemon@smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04564; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:13:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05136 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:13:45 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199811180013.RAA05136@smtp02.primenet.com> Received: from ip57-018.tol.primenet.com(206.165.57.18), claiming to be "pzawodny" via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd005085; Tue Nov 17 17:13:36 1998 X-Sender: zawodny@pop.primenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:12:16 -0500 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" From: Dave Zawodny Subject: Re: CDW In-Reply-To: <199811171723.MAA09490@CS.UTK.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At Tuesday 09:23 AM 11/17/98 +0000, Victor Kress wrote: >For those who care about these things, CDW advertizes on local hate talk radio. That's >enough for a boycot from me. Victor, What, pray tell, is "Local Hate Talk Radio?" Z >On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:48:04 -0500 (EST), John Kim wrote: >>>>> SNIPPED verbage not pertinent to the question posed <<<<< >Victor Kress >Geological Sciences >Box 351310 >University of Washington >Seattle, Washington >98195-1310 > >(206)616-8512 >kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 19:57:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA29082 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06468; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:53:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06283; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:53:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06271; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:53:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA01976; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:52:26 -1000 Message-ID: <002601be1296$0e3c9bc0$87c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "James P. Grenert" , Subject: Re: Bus Toaster drivers Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:52:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: New Media defunct?! Horrors! As for your question, I can help a bit - CorelCDX is part of the CorelSCSI package from Corel; you might be able to find this program from them. A very quick web search turned up http://www.corel.ca/products/multimedia/scsi/docs/1212.htm as a starting point. A good general site for CD drivers is http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4421/drivers.html The Bus Toaster used to be the 'standard' SCSI card for Winbook machines, so you might also try the Winbook site. If you go to www.scsi.com.au, you might poke around for those driver file names to see if some other company sold the same card under their name. - David R. (using a New Media Livewire network card even as we speak) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 20:31:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA29524 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:31:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07917; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:17:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:16:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07782; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07767; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:16:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA02264; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:16:09 -1000 Message-ID: <004101be1299$5da8ea80$87c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Victor Kress" , Subject: Re: CDW Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:15:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Victor Kress wrote: >For those who care about these things, CDW advertizes on local hate talk radio. That's >enough for a boycot from me. 'Local'='Local to Washington?' I ask because many radio companies have no idea of the format of the stations on which they advertise when it is out of their region. This takes me back - in the early 70s I worked in a phone bank sweatshop, selling radio spots to companies in the Chicago area. We guaranteed a certain demographic, but not the station itself. Turned out one of our major station clients was a KKK station in (predominantly black) Gary, Indiana - I quit when I found this out. Anyway, most likely CDW has contracted with an agency that finds them spots based on size and wealth of audience, not politics, and out of state it is probably hard for them to know better. Heck, you might even let them know! - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 17 21:01:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA29895 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07157; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:04:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:03:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07071; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:03:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07057; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:03:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from 17.chicago-06-07rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.150.17]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981118004633.LVTJ16037@17.chicago-06-07rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 00:46:33 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: CDW Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 00:46:21 GMT Message-ID: <36541258.15696926@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <199811171723.MAA09490@CS.UTK.EDU> In-Reply-To: <199811171723.MAA09490@CS.UTK.EDU> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:23:16 +0000, you wrote: >For those who care about these things, CDW advertizes on local hate talk= radio. That's=20 >enough for a boycot from me. Wild. I'm in Chicago (they're located near there) and I can't recall ever seeing or hearing CDW advertise outside of the papers and their own catalogs.=20 I've long maintained that CDW's biggest fans haven't met the staff in their stores - let's just say that after dealing with them, you won't feel the urge to contact NASA and tell them to do a head count on rocket scientists to see if anyone's missing. It always takes a tremendous amount of effort to get them to let me spend some money there, so much that I've pretty much given up on them. epbrown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 03:49:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA04030 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:49:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21581; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:48:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:47:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21497; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:47:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21485; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p10.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.73]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA01816 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 00:47:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811180847.AAA01816@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 98 00:47:15 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 750CE hardware conflict?? List-Unsubscribe: >I also have a TP360CS, and two TP370C's that are all set up pretty well >the same, and do not have this problem. The only difference is that the >other units have 1.44 floppy drives, and the problem unit is labelled as >2.88 on the floppy drive door. > >Can this be the conflict source? ie; Win95 not recognizing the 2.88 as a >legit. hardware device? And if so, can anyone help with a work-around, >or info on a device driver that I am lacking to set up the 2.88 drive? > That's weird. Some motherboards also have support for the 2.88MB drive, but you don't see them much. I think ALPS and Sony made those drives, which use special floppies. The 750CE is also more of a special machine - I thought I read somewhere that it was purchased through a special bid from IBM or something, because it has a TFT LCD and a 486DX2-50 CPU. Have you upgraded to the latest BIOS? This also allows larger HDs, so maybe that makes a difference as for why Win95 is using DOS compatibility mode. I upgraded the BIOS on mine, and with minor cable surgery, am using a 2.1GB drive from a 380 on my 750 fine (I think LBA, but I forgot). Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 03:57:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA04081 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21831; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:51:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:50:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21746; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:50:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21733; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:50:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p10.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.73]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA01872; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 00:48:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811180848.AAA01872@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Adnan Mumbasic" , "djmusic@inreach.com" Cc: "thinkpad" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 98 00:48:31 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Looking for users manual Thinkpad 755cd List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:32:15 +0100, Adnan Mumbasic wrote: > > >Janice Ray wrote: >> >> Hello out there, I am looking for a users manual or a copy of one for a >> IBM Thinkpad 755 CD. >> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Janice djmusic@inreach.com > >Take a look at IBM s homepage, there is a section for Think Pad Support >where you can find all manuals online. Download it and print it. They have the PDF manuals, or OS/2 .INF files? I'd like to get books for my 750, possibly 300, etc. If it helps, somewhere around here I have a .INF file for the ThinkPad 755CE. Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 03:58:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA04092 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:58:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22291; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:57:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:57:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22199; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22170; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:57:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p10.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.73]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA02260; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 00:57:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811180857.AAA02260@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Teresa Selling" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 98 00:56:33 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Trade my 8gig drive for your 5gig drive List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:23:51 -0700, Teresa Selling wrote: >OS/2 does... but I need GPS software and CDPD modem software that >will work with goamerica. Neither of which are available for OS/2. Ahh, I get it. >So looks like I will have to switch to Win95. Unfortunately its not a >very stable OS, I am always having to reboot Win95. Cannot use >Win98 because my IBM LanEntry wireless network adapters won't >work with Win98 and the 770s. > Have you considered NT? I find it about the same catagory as OS/2 in stability, only OS/2 seems to be more responsive. (I have my own categories for OS and NOS reliability). I've even been able to start NT Workstation 4.0 on my TP750, and it ran reasonably well. Goes to show that you don't nessecarily need a powerful system. But Netscape and other apps would run slower, thus I use my 750 as a print server. Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 04:02:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA04124 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:02:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22710; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:01:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:00:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22547; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:00:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.239.142]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22535; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from abtp ([199.179.164.127]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v03.02.02 118 115) with SMTP id <19981118085212.BBI10489@[199.179.164.127]>; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 02:52:12 -0600 Message-ID: <001001be12d1$b1372a80$7fa4b3c7@abtp> Reply-To: "Aaron W. Brown" From: "Aaron W. Brown" To: "James Mckenzie" , "Lou" Cc: Subject: Re: Generic IR Serial port keeps wanting to install Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 02:59:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: >Disable it with the Thinkpad Configuration Utility. Then remove it and >reboot. The Generic IR serial port should not install. > >James In general: If its plug and play hardware/driver - disable (red X) the driver (don't remove it) If its a win31 driver - disable the hardware with the Thinkpad utility or in bios setup. I'm not sure if the IR port on a 380ED has plug and play support. Anyone know? Aaron Brown >Lou wrote: >> >> I have deleted the generic IR serial port from my ThinkPad 380ED. It keeps >> wanting to reinstall. I don't use it and need the serial port for my GPS >> input. How can I stop getting the install request? >> >> Warm regards, >> >> -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 04:11:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA04182 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:11:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23342; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:10:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:08:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23244; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:08:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from vex.net (IDENT:root@vex.net [198.96.119.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23232; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (1061 bytes) by vex.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:08:17 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #3 built 1997-Oct-29) Received: from vex.net(198.96.119.193) via SMTP by vex.net, id smtpd18684a; Wed Nov 18 04:08:13 1998 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:08:13 -0500 (EST) From: Golan Klinger To: Thinkpad List Subject: PS/2 keyboard support on 560? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I tried an external PS/2 keyboard in my 560 today and simply put, it didn't work. I was under the impression that PS/2 ports would support any PS/2 device but I seem to be wrong. I've heard about PS/2 splitters to allow keyboard and mice to be used at the same time so I'm a bit confused. Suggestions? Golan Klinger [falco@vex.net] For long you live and high you fly And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry Good, fast or cheap. And all you touch and all you see Pick two... Is all your life will ever be From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 05:01:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA04504 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 05:01:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19474; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:05:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19323; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from jack.direct.ca (jack.direct.ca [199.60.229.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19311; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from newt-53-0139.direct.ca ([216.66.138.39] helo=direct.ca) by jack.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zg2cB-0000xV-00; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 00:05:27 -0800 Message-ID: <36520298.D11D30A@direct.ca> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:11:21 -0800 From: Hale X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: TP 750CE hardware conflict?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have several ThinkPads, including a 750CE that is giving Win95 system properties/performance error messages re: forcing the drives into "MDSOS compatibility mode". The system is working fine, except that the conflict is sloooowing it down. I have tried remming out, or changing device drivers, etc. as much as possible, but am still getting that darn conflict message. I also have a TP360CS, and two TP370C's that are all set up pretty well the same, and do not have this problem. The only difference is that the other units have 1.44 floppy drives, and the problem unit is labelled as 2.88 on the floppy drive door. Can this be the conflict source? ie; Win95 not recognizing the 2.88 as a legit. hardware device? And if so, can anyone help with a work-around, or info on a device driver that I am lacking to set up the 2.88 drive? Thanks for any help you may have. Hale -- ** Please remove the "NOSPAM" to E-Mail reply. Thanks.** From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 10:50:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07314 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:50:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03288; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:45:48 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02929; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:45:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id KAA24164 for dist-thinkpad; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01644; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:26:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta2.mcit.com (omta2.mcit.com [166.37.204.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA31868; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.37.1.64]) by omta2.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with ESMTP id <19981118152505.ZUZF21581@mci.com>; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:25:05 -0600 Message-ID: <3652E67C.C69E0A2B@mci.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:23:40 -0700 From: Teresa Selling X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Trade my 8gig drive for your 5gig drive References: <199811180857.AAA02260@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: NT would be ok (what I have on my desk at work) but I have a small 3 notebook network with IBM LanEntry Wireless PCMCIA adapters. I cannot find NT drivers for them. And also no DVD player for NT. And I'd rather not have Win95 and WinNT on the same notebook. I've thought of replacing the wireless adapters... but cannot find anything inexpensive (paid $30 each for the LanEntry cards). Paul Khoury wrote: > On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:23:51 -0700, Teresa Selling wrote: > > >OS/2 does... but I need GPS software and CDPD modem software that > >will work with goamerica. Neither of which are available for OS/2. > > Ahh, I get it. > > >So looks like I will have to switch to Win95. Unfortunately its not a > >very stable OS, I am always having to reboot Win95. Cannot use > >Win98 because my IBM LanEntry wireless network adapters won't > >work with Win98 and the 770s. > > > Have you considered NT? I find it about the same catagory as OS/2 in stability, only > OS/2 seems to be more responsive. (I have my own categories for OS and NOS reliability). > > I've even been able to start NT Workstation 4.0 on my TP750, and it ran reasonably well. > Goes to show that you don't nessecarily need a powerful system. But Netscape and other > apps would run slower, thus I use my 750 as a print server. > > Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html > Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, > Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 12:44:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA08943 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10346; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:39:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:32:40 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09715; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id MAA24907 for dist-thinkpad; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:32:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx (cortes.cibnor.mx [200.23.161.225]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06912; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:47:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx by cortes.cibnor.mx id aa29621; 18 Nov 98 9:46 MST Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:46:24 -0700 (MST) From: Larry Miller To: Golan Klinger cc: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: PS/2 keyboard support on 560? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > I tried an external PS/2 keyboard in my 560 today and simply put, > it didn't work. I was under the impression that PS/2 ports would support > any PS/2 device but I seem to be wrong. I've heard about PS/2 splitters to > allow keyboard and mice to be used at the same time so I'm a bit confused. I'm going through the same thing with a 385XD. Needs a "Y" adapter cable, wish it didn't. Aparently there's cables and cables, some "Y" adapters may not work, someone suggested try it at the store or make sure it's designed for a thinkpad. If all else fails, CDW sells the "Belkin KB IBM TP MOUSE Y ADPTR1 FT" (BEL-F3G117--01) for $27. IBM also has their own for about $40. Saludos-- Larry Larry Miller Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 13:20:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09555 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:20:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13157; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:16:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:14:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12658; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:14:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12555; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:14:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA14764; Wed, 18 Nov 98 13:14:11 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <36530E73.1B476FDB@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:14:11 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: 600E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: What's a 600E? I can't find reference of it on http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad. Is the 2645-55U, the one with the DVD drive, the 600E? Is there a PC card that gives DVD movie capability on this machine? Any guesses as to when a 1280x1024 screen will become available on a 600? --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 13:44:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09867 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:44:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14539; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:25:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:24:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14263; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:24:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from avana.net (IDENT:root@skratchy.avana.net [205.245.133.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14139; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:24:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from scottkelley (rac4-26.avana.net [206.229.100.180]) by avana.net (SM-98/Avana) with SMTP id NAA19844 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:23:55 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981118132556.00735240@pop.avana.net> X-Sender: scottk@pop.avana.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:25:56 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Scott Kelley Subject: Re: PS/2 keyboard support on 560? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have a 385XD. Says in the manual that you can't use a keyboard without the Y adapter and you need one specifically for the thinkpad. I use the Belkin and it works great. My MS PS2 wheel mouse works well in this setup also. Scott. >> I tried an external PS/2 keyboard in my 560 today and simply put, >> it didn't work. I was under the impression that PS/2 ports would support >> any PS/2 device but I seem to be wrong. I've heard about PS/2 splitters to >> allow keyboard and mice to be used at the same time so I'm a bit confused. > >I'm going through the same thing with a 385XD. Needs a "Y" adapter cable, >wish it didn't. Aparently there's cables and cables, some "Y" adapters >may not work, someone suggested try it at the store or make sure it's >designed for a thinkpad. If all else fails, CDW sells the "Belkin KB IBM >TP MOUSE Y ADPTR1 FT" (BEL-F3G117--01) for $27. IBM also has their own >for about $40. > >Saludos-- Larry > >Larry Miller >Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico > > Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" - Elanor Roosevelt "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" - Unknown "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find a rock." - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 14:18:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA10396 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:18:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18058; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:06:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:04:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17764; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:04:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from flounder-t.icase.edu (flounder-f.icase.edu [146.165.142.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17745; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:04:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from millepore-f.icase.edu (millepore.icase.edu [128.155.142.169]) by flounder-t.icase.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA10393 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:04:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:04:01 -0500 (EST) From: Piyush Mehrotra To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP600] Taking the US version to UK In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Phone: (757)-864-2188 Fax: (757)-864-6134 WWW: http://www.icase.edu/~pm Address: ICASE MS 403 NASA Langley Research Center Hampton VA 23681 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I am traveling to the UK in December and would like to take my TP 600. IBM Tech Support tells me I have to buy their $21.50 power cord. Do I really need it or can I just buy an adapter locally? Also do I need a special adapter for the telephone jack in UK? Thanx - Piyush From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 14:22:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA10479 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:22:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18067; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:05:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17908; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17867; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:05:11 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from northrelay03.pok.ibm.com (northrelay03.pok.ibm.com [9.117.200.23]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA70216; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:46:23 -0500 Received: from us.ibm.com (d54mta03.raleigh.ibm.com [9.67.228.35]) by northrelay03.pok.ibm.com (8.8.7/NCO v1.2) with SMTP id OAA148300; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:04:17 -0500 Received: by us.ibm.com(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 852566C0.0068C319 ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:04:16 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: I Lee Hetherington cc: ThinkPad List Message-ID: <852566C0.0068C14D.00@us.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:04:08 -0500 Subject: Re: 600E Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: The 2645-55U and 2645-A5U are designated 600E they both have a 13.3" TFT screen that runs at 1024x768 65k colors. No news on the 14.4" display size being available. I believe that both models can play DVD movies under Win95/98. Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 I Lee Hetherington on 11/18/98 01:14:11 PM To: ThinkPad List cc: (bcc: Christopher Haun/Raleigh/Contr/IBM) Subject: 600E What's a 600E? I can't find reference of it on http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad. Is the 2645-55U, the one with the DVD drive, the 600E? Is there a PC card that gives DVD movie capability on this machine? Any guesses as to when a 1280x1024 screen will become available on a 600? --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 14:41:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA10734 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:41:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21369; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:35:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:34:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21205; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:34:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21141; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:34:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-223-208.usc.edu [128.125.223.208]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id LAA01366; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:34:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981118113040.009efa50@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:34:05 -0800 To: , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: TP 600 & DVD In-Reply-To: <852566C0.0068C14D.00@us.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 02:04 PM 11/18/98 -0500, you wrote: >The 2645-55U and 2645-A5U are designated 600E they both have a 13.3" TFT >screen that runs at 1024x768 65k colors. No news on the 14.4" display size >being available. >I believe that both models can play DVD movies under Win95/98. As the happy owner of one of the first TP 600's, I have a question... If I were interested in getting a DVD drive for my 600, and I wanted to play DVD movie disks on it (does it, by the way, handle DIVX disks?), would I need to get this PC Card hardware MPEG thingamajig to make it work? Anyone have some URL's that point to any of these PC card things that enable the use of a DVD drive on a TP 600? Is it just a card that plugs in and adds some hardware functionality, without dongles hanging off of it or anything? Is this what "Zoomed Video" PC card ports were made for? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 14:48:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA10872 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:48:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14897; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:27:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:27:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14744; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:27:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14714; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p45.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.108]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA05167 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:26:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811181826.KAA05167@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 98 10:26:13 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 3D PCMCIA Soundcard List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone got this soundcard by IBM to work in OS/2 Warp 3, especially on a TP750? I need a good wavetable card, and out of NT or OS/2, only OS/2 supports IBM's mwave PCMCIA card. Thanks. Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 14:49:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA10880 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21113; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:34:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:33:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20904; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20883; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:33:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA15187; Wed, 18 Nov 98 14:33:13 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <365320F9.A68E8780@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:33:13 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: chaun@us.ibm.com Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 600E References: <852566C0.0068C14D.00@us.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: chaun@us.ibm.com wrote: > The 2645-55U and 2645-A5U are designated 600E they both have a 13.3" TFT > screen that runs at 1024x768 65k colors. No news on the 14.4" display size > being available. Actually, I really hope they DON'T put a larger LCD on the 600. I had a 14.1" 770 previously, and I thought its footprint (and thickness) were too much. 13.3" is plenty big for me, probably at 1280x1024 too. What size does LCD does the 770 with 1280x1024 have? Isn't it less than 14"? --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 14:51:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA10908 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:50:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20158; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:25:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20022; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19933; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from falkor (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id NAA27420; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:24:26 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981118105212.0084c3d0@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:52:12 -0600 To: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: CDW Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" In-Reply-To: <36541258.15696926@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <199811171723.MAA09490@CS.UTK.EDU> <199811171723.MAA09490@CS.UTK.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 12:46 AM 11/18/98 GMT, Emanuel Brown wrote: >I've long maintained that CDW's biggest fans haven't met the staff >in their stores - let's just say that after dealing with them, you >won't feel the urge to contact NASA and tell them to do a head count >on rocket scientists to see if anyone's missing. It always takes a >tremendous amount of effort to get them to let me spend some money >there, so much that I've pretty much given up on them. As with any store, the quality of sales staff that you meet from one visit to the next will have variations. As with almost any computer store, you are unlikely to find the same sort of people who could make $100K/year as computer consultants. So, if you know nothing, but have a vague idea of what you want, they can be helpful. If you are an expert and know exactly what you want, I have found that they do not get in my way, and are always friendly and courteous. Last time I was there, the sales person thanked me for teaching her something about the product I was looking for (and found, with her help). I suppose that for the "middle" group, who know a good deal about computers but are not "experts", shopping at CDW could be frustrating. But, I doubt that it would be any more frustrating than shopping at (now defunct) Computer City or (worse) CompUSA, not to mention buying computer stuff at Best Buy! They have a lot of products at CDW. Even the best of us could not be expert at all of them. However, I have always found the sales staff eager to be helpful and track down answers to my questions. This is much better service than I get most places I shop (computer and non-computer related). BTW, I also have no idea what "local hate talk radio" is. I've never listened to any radio station that would seem to fit that profile. Perhaps one of the regular listeners, one who has heard CDW ads on it, can enlighten us? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.1 Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNlL7LWasl5Jijs7SEQLXhwCggylk4tdS0ovPupilKqlswMDC/uwAn3/U 5GsrqcwWXDPu9QoBHpqaNGl2 =AuGv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 15:02:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11099 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22749; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:48:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:46:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22509; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from jpmeia.mckiny1.tx.home.com (c44309-a.mckiny1.tx.home.com [24.4.39.29]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22487; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from me@localhost) by jpmeia.mckiny1.tx.home.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA06045 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:45:33 -0600 (CST) From: McCann Message-Id: <199811181945.NAA06045@jpmeia.mckiny1.tx.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) In-Reply-To: <852566C0.0068C14D.00@us.ibm.com> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:45:31 -0600 To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 600E Reply-To: jpmeia@home.com References: <852566C0.0068C14D.00@us.ibm.com> List-Unsubscribe: Came across the following site which details the IBM laptops pretty well (this will download a pdf file): ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/tbook.pdf The 600e seems to have a newer NeoMagic chip (MagicMedia256AV) than the standard 600 (MagicGraph128XD). JP --- Please respond as needed to: jpmeia@home.com NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 15:26:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11464 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19877; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:24:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:23:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19697; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (smtp4.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19682; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:23:16 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from northrelay03.pok.ibm.com (northrelay03.pok.ibm.com [9.117.200.23]) by smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA18378; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:09:38 -0500 Received: from us.ibm.com (d54mta03.raleigh.ibm.com [9.67.228.35]) by northrelay03.pok.ibm.com (8.8.7/NCO v1.2) with SMTP id OAA101976; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:21:16 -0500 Received: by us.ibm.com(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 852566C0.006A506D ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:21:14 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: Piyush Mehrotra cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <852566C0.006A4E4F.00@us.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:21:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [TP600] Taking the US version to UK Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: don't know about the power cord but the UK phone cables are not only physically different, it is actually illegal to plug in a non approved phone cord :-). Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 Piyush Mehrotra on 11/18/98 02:04:01 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: (bcc: Christopher Haun/Raleigh/Contr/IBM) Subject: [TP600] Taking the US version to UK I am traveling to the UK in December and would like to take my TP 600. IBM Tech Support tells me I have to buy their $21.50 power cord. Do I really need it or can I just buy an adapter locally? Also do I need a special adapter for the telephone jack in UK? Thanx - Piyush From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 15:29:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11521 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:29:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25467; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:23:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25248; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from vex.net (IDENT:root@vex.net [198.96.119.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25233; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:22:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (2059 bytes) by vex.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:22:53 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #3 built 1997-Oct-29) Received: from vex.net(198.96.119.193) via SMTP by vex.net, id smtpd27791a; Wed Nov 18 15:22:44 1998 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:22:43 -0500 (EST) From: Golan Klinger To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: PS/2 keyboard support on 560? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Larry Miller wrote: > Needs a "Y" adapter cable, wish it didn't. I've confirmed that the TP560 (don't know about other models) does reqiure a Y adaptor for an external keyboard to function (with or without an external mouse). I have no idea why IBM added this "feature" but the tech support person I spoke to at IBM jokingly said, "Probably so we could sell a bunch of cables." Funny guy. > If all else fails, CDW sells the "Belkin KB IBM TP MOUSE Y ADPTR1 FT" > (BEL-F3G117--01) for $27. IBM also has their own for about $40. I called a few local stores and the concensus was that a generic cable would be about $10 but there was a 99% chance it wouldn't work. One store offered to order the IBM cable but said it would take 3-4 weeks and cost about $100. Then I called Home Computing (a local chain of stores in Toronto run by IBM Canada) and asked about the cable. $37.99 and it is in stock. That works out to about $25 US (or less). Not bad considering it comes right from IBM. I bet they'd ship them too and that wouldn't be more than a few bucks. If anyone is interested, call Home Computing at 416-363-1716 and see if they can help you out. I was impressed, the guy knew the part # off the top of his head. :) Golan Klinger [falco@vex.net] For long you live and high you fly And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry Good, fast or cheap. And all you touch and all you see Pick two... Is all your life will ever be From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 16:20:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12302 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27535; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:55:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:54:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27419; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27399; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:54:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-223-208.usc.edu [128.125.223.208]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id MAA28342 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:54:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981118124918.009e5270@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:54:11 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: EZ-Serve? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Duh... Sorry everyone, I hate asking this question like I'm a terrible newbie, but its just been so *long* since I called IBM EZ Serve that I don't know how to contact them! I have a number in the 404 area code from my Pilot, but no 800 number. I poked around the web site, but all I came across were FAQ's and tech support documents. The truth is I would like to make arrangements to send my machine in for a weird screen thing and a HD that's getting bad sectors. While I'm at it, I'd also like to ask them about local IBM-authorized repair centers to look at my old TP 560 which has an entirely different screen problem (appears to be dead after it kissed my kitchen floor a few months ago, but not cracked or anything). Ugh...anyone got an 800 number for EZ Serve? And a way of finding local IBM-authorized repair facilities? Embarassing to ask, but... --- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net "It is hard to convince a high-school student that he will encounter a lot of problems more difficult than those of algebra and geometry," -- Edgar W. Howe in "Country Town Sayings", 1911. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 16:25:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12343 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28905; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:15:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:15:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28803; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (f283.hotmail.com [207.82.251.174]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28755; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11109 invoked by uid 0); 18 Nov 1998 21:14:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19981118211406.11107.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 171.64.168.119 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:14:06 PST X-Originating-IP: [171.64.168.119] From: "Benjamin Koh" To: falco@vex.net, lmiller@cibnor.mx Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PS/2 keyboard support on 560? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:14:06 PST List-Unsubscribe: Hello, This issue was discussed in comp.sys.laptops a couple of days ago. Anyway, I have a 560X with an external keyboard hooked up with a noname cable I got from Fry's for $6.95. It's probably your best bet if there's a branch near you. If not, www.buycomp.com has the Belkin adapter for $14, and the IBM one for somewhere around $30. Use www.shopper.com and search for "belkin y cable" or something like that. I can't remember what the keywords for the IBM one. FWIW, I've yet to see a price at CDW that Buycomp couldn't beat. Of course the service is another story - I've not used either so I have no comment. YMMV. Benjamin > >> I tried an external PS/2 keyboard in my 560 today and simply put, >> it didn't work. I was under the impression that PS/2 ports would support >> any PS/2 device but I seem to be wrong. I've heard about PS/2 splitters to >> allow keyboard and mice to be used at the same time so I'm a bit confused. > >I'm going through the same thing with a 385XD. Needs a "Y" adapter cable, >wish it didn't. Aparently there's cables and cables, some "Y" adapters >may not work, someone suggested try it at the store or make sure it's >designed for a thinkpad. If all else fails, CDW sells the "Belkin KB IBM >TP MOUSE Y ADPTR1 FT" (BEL-F3G117--01) for $27. IBM also has their own >for about $40. > >Saludos-- Larry > >Larry Miller >Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 16:44:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12631 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00256; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:29:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29851; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:28:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from vex.net (IDENT:root@vex.net [198.96.119.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29837; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:28:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (1993 bytes) by vex.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:28:43 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #3 built 1997-Oct-29) Received: from vex.net(198.96.119.193) via SMTP by vex.net, id smtpd02430a; Wed Nov 18 16:28:37 1998 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:28:37 -0500 (EST) From: Golan Klinger To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: PS/2 keyboard support on 560? In-Reply-To: <19981118211406.11107.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I don't like the idea of buying a generic cable in this instance since it would basically be a crap shoot (I've got terrible luck) and the IBM cable isn't outrageously expensive. Further to that, I'm in Canada so when you factor in the exchange rate, add shipping, duty and GST, I will probably end up paying more if I order from the US. It's obvious that the IBM cable is electrically different from generic cables (and it may just be a simple resistor or some such) and I'd be nervous about blowing the PS/2 controller on the motherboard. BTW, I've brought this up before and nobody seems to notice (or care) but this list is not configured to add in a Reply-To header and the result is that people reply to the list *and* to the person who wrote the post and if a thread breaks out, you can end up with dozens of repeat messages. It isn't difficult to configure a list properly and I'm willing to help the list owner do it if they don't know how. Alternately, people could be a wee bit more careful and could manually strip out the personal addresses. How about it? Now I'm off to buy my IBM brand Y-cable so I can stop hunching over my desk. My back is killing me. :( Golan Klinger [falco@vex.net] For long you live and high you fly And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry Good, fast or cheap. And all you touch and all you see Pick two... Is all your life will ever be From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 18:07:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA13939 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:07:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07067; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:58:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:57:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06918; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06904; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA18498 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:57:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:57:18 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: Thinkpad List Subject: [OT] mailing list (was: PS/2 keyboard support on 560?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Golan Klinger wrote: > BTW, I've brought this up before and nobody seems to notice (or > care) but this list is not configured to add in a Reply-To header and the > result is that people reply to the list *and* to the person who wrote the > post and if a thread breaks out, you can end up with dozens of repeat > messages. It isn't difficult to configure a list properly and I'm willing > to help the list owner do it if they don't know how. It *is* configured properly. Keith Moore once set it so the reply-to would default to the list, and people complained about getting a lot of messages that were only of interest to the original poster, not the entire list. There will be complaints either way you set it up. At least this way, you only have to deal with a few extra messages sent to you, instead of every extra message sent to the list at large. > Alternately, people > could be a wee bit more careful and could manually strip out the personal > addresses. How about it? Heh heh. What? Actually do work instead of having the computer automatically do everything? :-) (Well, I for one am careful to edit out multiple recipients when replying to the list.) The real solution is for the mailing list authors to smarten up their software so if a member of the list is already on the to: or cc: line, the list won't send them a copy of the message. Sendmail is smart enough to do this, but most mailing lists bypass sendmail. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 18:20:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA14098 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:20:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07797; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:06:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07649; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:06:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.atl.mindspring.net (smtp3.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.128.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07600; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:06:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 (user-38ld1jt.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.134.125]) by smtp3.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA25079 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:05:45 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad list" Subject: RE: [TP600] Taking the US version to UK Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:01:23 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01be1347$5ded6f80$0200a8c0@770> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: A story.... Years ago, right after purchasing my first ThinkPad (a 700C), I traveled to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, on business. I got there and immediately called IBM and had them deliver to my hotel the appropriate power cord for my laptop. Cost a fortune, but the excitement of this foreign search was great. Malaysia uses the same plug end as required in the UK. I ordered the catalog number directly out of back of the ThinkPad manual. Nice cord, but nothing special, just has a different plug on the wall socket side. I have since discovered that it is better to have the correct adapter and plug your own cord into that. Saves lugging around two, or if you are going to other countries with an altogether different plug, three or more different cords. Many hotels overseas will have standard RJ11 outlet either on the phone, or in the wall. I usually immediately head to a local department store when I am overseas and do not happen to have the correct phone plug and buy the a phone cord with local phone plug on one end and an RJ11 on the other. Phone cords are small and a dime a dozen. -----Original Message----- From: Piyush Mehrotra [mailto:pm@icase.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 2:04 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP600] Taking the US version to UK I am traveling to the UK in December and would like to take my TP 600. IBM Tech Support tells me I have to buy their $21.50 power cord. Do I really need it or can I just buy an adapter locally? Also do I need a special adapter for the telephone jack in UK? Thanx - Piyush From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 18:41:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA14361 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:41:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04341; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:22:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:19:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03927; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:19:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03894; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA29253; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:18:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:18:31 -0500 (EST) From: Michael To: Randal Whittle cc: TP List Subject: Re: EZ-Serve? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981118124918.009e5270@rcf.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: The number I have is USA 800 772 2227 Canada 800 565 3344 On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Randal Whittle wrote: > Duh... > > Sorry everyone, I hate asking this question like I'm a terrible newbie, > but its just been so *long* since I called IBM EZ Serve that I don't know > how to contact them! I have a number in the 404 area code from my Pilot, > but no 800 number. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 19:16:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14818 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:16:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11904; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:09:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:08:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11774; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:08:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from dub-img-7.compuserve.com (dub-img-7.compuserve.com [149.174.206.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11762; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:08:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dub-img-7.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.16) id SAA26332; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:53:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:53:05 -0500 From: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL Subject: Re: [TP600] Taking the US version to UK Sender: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL To: Piyush Mehrotra , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Message-ID: <199811181853_MC2-60BC-4236@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Piyush, If the TP600 power brick is similar to the TO700 and handles voltages fro= m 100 to 240 AC 50/60Hz (except that the TP701C has the prongs built into t= he brick, not on a cable) then I would be fairly certain that all you need i= s a shaver adapter from the UK three square pin format to the US flat two pin. You can find these at Radio Shack or the Luggage places like Bentleys (or= indeed at electric razor stores ) You will not need one of those transformer bricks that change the voltage either with a transformer or = a chopper (although you might need one for your hair dryer ) and they ar= e *heavy* Chris is technically and legally correct about connecting a non-approved modem but everyone does it. You do need an adapter since the phone socket= is slightly different (more flat) than the US one. I've heard that the US= Radio Shack ones are not satisfactory and it's better to get one in the U= K. If you want Rolls Royce=99 then contact TeleAdapt: Email: hone: Toll-free 1-877-835-3232 Fax: 408-965-1414 Web: Address: 2151 O'Toole Avenue, Suite H, San Jose, CA 95131, USA. = Hope that helps -- GO TRAVFOR or PCCOM on CIS if you need some more help.= Hugh Wyn Griffith Seminole, FL, USA Using Virtual Access OLR on Win98 = From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 20:34:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA15973 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09948; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:47:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:46:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09843; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:46:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09829; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:45:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from greasygirl (greasygirl.brightware.com [206.156.118.246]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA26732; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:45:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <013e01be134d$897b47c0$f6769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Emanuel Brown" , "Ron Heiby" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: CDW Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:45:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >BTW, I also have no idea what "local hate talk radio" is. I've never >listened to any radio station that would seem to fit that profile. Perhaps >one of the regular listeners, one who has heard CDW ads on it, can >enlighten us? My guess is that the original poster is referring to Rush Limbaugh. Mr. Limbaugh is an acquired taste. I tried to listen to him on a recommendation. He is VERY smart but his views are narrow, mean and small-minded for the most part. David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 21:44:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA16794 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:44:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20072; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:42:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:41:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19967; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:41:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19952; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:41:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA08694; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:40:42 -1000 Message-ID: <006501be136e$5a42a540$0dc52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Benjamin Koh" , , Cc: Subject: [OT] Buycomp.com (was: Re: PS/2 keyboard support on 560?) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:40:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >there's a branch near you. If not, www.buycomp.com has the Belkin >I can't remember what the keywords for the IBM one. FWIW, I've yet to >see a price at CDW that Buycomp couldn't beat. Of course the service is >another story - I've not used either so I have no comment. YMMV. Buycomp almost always comes out low on these online price searches; for the few of you who don't know my own story with them, just do bear in mind that they charge your credit card the instant you click 'buy', even if the product is on indefinite backorder (despite their online inventory showing 'in stock'), that they won't tell you if/when it *is* backordered, and that when you cancel the order they might take weeks to credit back your charge card. Gee, I wonder how they manage to come out so low?-) - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 18 23:38:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA17933 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24659; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:35:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:33:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24546; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24527; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.18.8]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 5227800 ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:58:15 -0500 Message-ID: <006401be136f$2dbcd440$020aa8c0@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad Mailing list" Subject: Dock for TP700... Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:46:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hey there, I took the chance and picked up two of these docking stations at an auction for a good price. Thing is, I dont think I can use 'em. I have a 701c. The small sticker on the dock says Thinkpad 700 PS/2. The IBM tilted logo has the numbers 3550 under it. I know there's a 701c adapter kit for the docks, and is this what it's for? The docking port on the dock is pretty long and wide. If I can't use these on my 701, does anyone out there have any use for 'em? I'll sell one or both really cheap! :-) Thanks. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 01:20:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA18894 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28113; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:18:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28020; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:18:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net ([199.45.39.61]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27977; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:16:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-75.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.75]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA12691; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:16:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981119011900.014ba07c@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:19:00 -0500 To: "Slip" , "Thinkpad Mailing list" From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Dock for TP700... In-Reply-To: <006401be136f$2dbcd440$020aa8c0@amdk6266> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:46 PM 11/18/98 -0500, Slip wrote: >Hey there, > I took the chance and picked up two of these docking stations at an >auction for a good price. Thing is, I dont think I can use 'em. I have a >701c. The small sticker on the dock says Thinkpad 700 PS/2. The IBM tilted >logo has the numbers 3550 under it. I know there's a 701c adapter kit for >the docks, and is this what it's for? The docking port on the dock is pretty >long and wide. If I can't use these on my 701, does anyone out there have >any use for 'em? I'll sell one or both really cheap! :-) These are strictly MicroChannel Architecture (MCA) docking units. They are made for the TP 700/720 family of Thinkpad MCA based machines ONLY (486SLC25&50). With the advent of the 750 era, did IBM banish MCA to legacyhell :) I just packed up the last 700c's that were used for network sniffing (1of5) to ship off to a buyer, docking station and all. They are out there in abundance. Good luck. :) ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 02:20:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA19620 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29945; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:19:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:17:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29779; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29767; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:17:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p09.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.72]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA24441; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:12:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811190712.XAA24441@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Teresa Selling" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 16 Nov 98 10:18:52 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Trade my 8gig drive for your 5gig drive List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:00:59 -0700, Teresa Selling wrote: >Having to load EzDrive to load win95 is really bugging me... and I don't >really need the extra disk space. So, if anyone wants to swap their >5gig drive +$100 for my 8gig drive let me know. Be aware that because >of the way the drive reports its geometry, you must load EzDrive for >Win95/98 or it will use the drive in DOS compatibility mode. For Linux >you must specify the drive geometry. Can swap just the bare drive... >or if you have a 770 and don't want to take the drive out of the caddie, >can swap with caddie and all. The 8 gig is in an OEM 770 caddie I got from I'm just curious, what about OS/2 and NT? Any problems with large drives there? It's such a shame SCSI couldn't have been cheaper and more mainstream, since that problem almost doesn't exist with SCSI drives. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 03:02:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA19853 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 03:02:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01150; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:56:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:56:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01063; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:56:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01045; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22885 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:57:14 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199811190657.JAA22885@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:55:25 -0200 (IZM) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <852566C0.006A4E4F.00@us.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP600] Taking the US version to UK List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I am using my US-made TP600's power supply here in Turkey where the voltage is 220V, 50Hz. No problems; just had to get a plug adaptor for it.. -t - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNlQVPTJjYwErN0xZAQGTYAP+Mujw0xZeT5Bopf7Otdqo+XMAYIwcOdMu Xi4AXKcvpuFlNx8xjEv+B7WfQjA6NUIXeFCzqVg8nAtac8feYNKd+gmiNb+AfUhN rMGaT1xrgQSDhH4eZ2LtfCqME5yHUXP5kby9oHkyUQFxfl7UfQuPMCrDQChwKJVK qcqVMheMXs0= =YMXP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 040: Reserved for future mistakes by our developers. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 06:27:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA21124 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:27:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14576; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:27:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:25:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14443; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14431; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.18.57]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 6076100 ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:36:41 -0500 Message-ID: <00b701be13af$33e4f4c0$020aa8c0@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad Mailing list" , "Mark Bell" Subject: Re: Dock for TP700... Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:24:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Aw man, looks like i'm stuck with some paperweights, huh? I never took the time to pop 'em open and look at the achitecture. I assumed they were ISA. Welp, anyone out there want 'em for say $10.00 a piece? Buyer pays shipping of their choice. :-) Thanks. -Jamie >These are strictly MicroChannel Architecture (MCA) docking units. They are >made for the TP 700/720 family of Thinkpad MCA based machines ONLY >(486SLC25&50). >With the advent of the 750 era, did IBM banish MCA to legacyhell :) I just >packed >up the last 700c's that were used for network sniffing (1of5) to ship off to a >buyer, docking station and all. They are out there in abundance. Good luck. :) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 06:32:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA21147 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14976; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:31:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:29:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14803; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:29:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.generics.co.uk (mailgate.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14788; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:29:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from scigen.co.uk (scigen) by mailgate.generics.co.uk (5.0/PIPEX simple 1.26) id AA07179; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:35:04 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk by scigen.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03009; Thu, 19 Nov 98 11:23:18 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:28:55 +0000 To: "ThinkPad list" , "William Armstrong" Subject: Re[2]: [TP600] Taking the US version to UK Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: In the UK the same cord is used for electric kettles=2E Just ask the=20= hotel for a kettle in your room when arriving, and hey presto, you=20= have your cord! Saves carrying anything around=2E ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: [TP600] Taking the US version to UK Author: MIME:"William Armstrong" at INTERNET Date: 18/11/98 23:09 ####################################################=20= The following message part was sent with the unknown=20= character set: "WINDOWS-1252" ####################################################=20= A story=2E=2E=2E=2E Years ago, right after purchasing my first ThinkPad (a 700C), I traveled to=20= Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, on business=2E I got there and immediately called IBM=20= and had them deliver to my hotel the appropriate power cord for my laptop=2E=20= Cost a fortune, but the excitement of this foreign search was great=2E=20= Malaysia uses the same plug end as required in the UK=2E I ordered the=20= catalog number directly out of back of the ThinkPad manual=2E Nice cord, but=20= nothing special, just has a different plug on the wall socket side=2E I have=20= since discovered that it is better to have the correct adapter and plug your=20= own cord into that=2E Saves lugging around two, or if you are going to other=20= countries with an altogether different plug, three or more different cords=2E Many hotels overseas will have standard RJ11 outlet either on the phone, or=20= in the wall=2E I usually immediately head to a local department store when I=20= am overseas and do not happen to have the correct phone plug and buy the a=20= phone cord with local phone plug on one end and an RJ11 on the other=2E Phone=20= cords are small and a dime a dozen=2E -----Original Message----- From:Piyush Mehrotra [mailto:pm@icase=2Eedu]=20= Sent:Wednesday, November 18, 1998 2:04 PM=20= To:thinkpad@cs=2Eutk=2Eedu Subject:[TP600] Taking the US version to UK I am traveling to the UK in December and would like to take my TP 600=2E=20= IBM Tech Support tells me I have to buy their $21=2E50 power cord=2E Do I=20= really need it or can I just buy an adapter locally? Also do I need a special adapter for the telephone jack in UK? Thanx - Piyush ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 08:21:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA21845 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:21:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18860; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:09:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:07:14 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18407; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id IAA01634 for dist-thinkpad; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:07:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25111; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:21:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA15134; Wed, 18 Nov 98 14:21:49 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <36531E4D.8F43C26B@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:21:49 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: chaun@us.ibm.com Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 600E References: <852566C0.0068C14D.00@us.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: But the IBM site says the 2645-55U only has MPEG-1 in software. Don't you need MPEG-2 (in hardware) to do DVD movies? That's what my previous 770-1AU had. Thanks. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 08:22:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA21858 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:22:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19172; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:10:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:07:36 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18495; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:07:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id IAA01669 for dist-thinkpad; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from marlin.nosc.mil (dseaman@marlin.nosc.mil [128.49.4.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23170; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:58:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (dseaman@localhost) by marlin.nosc.mil (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA22561 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:58:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:58:46 -0800 (PST) From: "Derek L. Seaman" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP600E problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I'm the proud owner of a TP 600E. My "old" laptop is a TP 600 PII/233 with 96 megs of memory. I removed the 64MB SODIMM from the 600 and put it in the 600E. It recognized the 130MB but made a few clicking sounds and hung. So i swaped the position of the factory installed 32MB with my IBM 64MB part. The system boots but windows fails to load with protection error. I ran the memory checker in the BIOS of the 600E and the 64M part fails. But I put it back in the 600 and it passes. Put it back in the 600E and it fails. What's wrong? It's real IBM 3.3v memory. The error on the 600E is DEV 002 ERR 21 FRU 0020 Any help would be appreciated. Derek From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 08:38:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA21969 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:38:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19025; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:07:31 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18470; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id IAA01659 for dist-thinkpad; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19526; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:33:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA08657; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:33:27 -1000 Message-ID: <004101be136d$582f2400$0dc52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Piyush Mehrotra" , Subject: Re: [TP600] Taking the US version to UK Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:33:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >I am traveling to the UK in December and would like to take my TP 600. >IBM Tech Support tells me I have to buy their $21.50 power cord. Do I >really need it or can I just buy an adapter locally? If the US power brick from the 600 won't work in UK jacks, it will be the first ThinkPad in years with this problem; I use my machines in the UK all the time. (Of course, you'll need an inexpensive plug adapter, for $10 or less). The UK phone plug adapter can be bought either on this end or on that end (any high street electrical store). - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 08:44:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA22039 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21745; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:33:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:32:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21531; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:32:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (smtp4.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21429; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:30:35 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from northrelay03.pok.ibm.com (northrelay03.pok.ibm.com [9.117.200.23]) by smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA75846 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:17:00 -0500 Received: from us.ibm.com (d54mta03.raleigh.ibm.com [9.67.228.35]) by northrelay03.pok.ibm.com (8.8.7/NCO v1.2) with SMTP id IAA34902 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:30:01 -0500 Received: by us.ibm.com(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 852566C1.004A25F2 ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:29:53 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <852566C1.004A23B2.00@us.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:29:42 -0500 Subject: Re: TP600E problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: I don't know the technical differences but for what ever reason the RAM >from the 770/e/ed s and 600s dosn't work in a 770X or a 600E. Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 "Derek L. Seaman" on 11/18/98 10:58:46 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: (bcc: Christopher Haun/Raleigh/Contr/IBM) Subject: TP600E problems I'm the proud owner of a TP 600E. My "old" laptop is a TP 600 PII/233 with 96 megs of memory. I removed the 64MB SODIMM from the 600 and put it in the 600E. It recognized the 130MB but made a few clicking sounds and hung. So i swaped the position of the factory installed 32MB with my IBM 64MB part. The system boots but windows fails to load with protection error. I ran the memory checker in the BIOS of the 600E and the 64M part fails. But I put it back in the 600 and it passes. Put it back in the 600E and it fails. What's wrong? It's real IBM 3.3v memory. The error on the 600E is DEV 002 ERR 21 FRU 0020 Any help would be appreciated. Derek From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 08:47:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA22060 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19285; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:11:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:08:00 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18567; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:07:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id IAA01679 for dist-thinkpad; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:07:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00633; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial10.vramp.net (dial10.vramp.net [209.107.20.25]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA11962 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:33:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811182133.QAA11962@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:29:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: PS/2 keyboard support on 560? Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal References: In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 18 Nov 98, at 15:22, Golan Klinger wrote: > Larry Miller wrote: > > > Needs a "Y" adapter cable, wish it didn't. > > I've confirmed that the TP560 (don't know about other models) does > reqiure a Y adaptor for an external keyboard to function (with or without > an external mouse). I have no idea why IBM added this "feature" but the > tech support person I spoke to at IBM jokingly said, "Probably so we could > sell a bunch of cables." Funny guy. The PS2 port on most of the Thinkpads is a Mouseport only (check the little icon on the case), ergo the need for the splitter. My local VAR (So. NJ area) sells a generic splitter for $12.00 that works in all of my 75X series machines, my 365, my 760 and even my new 600 (all of which are running some form of Windows). For those who like mysteries, the generic cable WON'T work on my wife's 600 (a physical copy of mine) which is running NT4. Why the cable works under WIN3.1 to 98 and not under NT has me stumped. Fortunately for her she works for a Co. willing to purchase one of those apparently gold-plated Selectabase 600 port replicators for her ($400.00 for a replicator???), so she doesn't need a splitter. There's no ID on the splitter cables I have as to who might have manufactured them, but if anyone would like me to try to track it down I'll check it out next time I'm at the local store. Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share CaptJHEM@waterw.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 08:48:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA22072 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18877; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:09:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:07:21 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18426; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id IAA01649 for dist-thinkpad; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:07:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smh-mail.smh.com (smh-mail.smh.com [204.5.150.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01239; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:41:05 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from ccMail by smh-mail.smh.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0007C86A; Wed, 18 Nov 98 16:28:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:39:28 -0500 Message-ID: <0007C86A.CE21223@smh.com> Subject: Re: TP 600 & DVD To: , TP List , Randal Whittle Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part List-Unsubscribe: Randle, IBM recommends the Margi DVD-to-Go hardware MPEG -1 and -2 pccard accelerator if you wish to watch DVD movies. The general consensus is that even with the PII/266 processor you end up with a lot of dropped frames with software MPEG decoding. IBM has been equivocal on whether the new PII/300 systems will need the Margi card (the url is www.margi.com). The card is about $300. It utilizes zoomed video and you only need to use the dongle if you want to port the sound and/or picture to external sources. I doubt the DVD player will do DIVX. Regards, Neil TP 600 PII/266 ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: TP 600 & DVD Author: Randal Whittle at Internet Date: 11/18/98 11:34 AM At 02:04 PM 11/18/98 -0500, you wrote: >The 2645-55U and 2645-A5U are designated 600E they both have a 13.3" TFT >screen that runs at 1024x768 65k colors. No news on the 14.4" display size >being available. >I believe that both models can play DVD movies under Win95/98. As the happy owner of one of the first TP 600's, I have a question... If I were interested in getting a DVD drive for my 600, and I wanted to play DVD movie disks on it (does it, by the way, handle DIVX disks?), would I need to get this PC Card hardware MPEG thingamajig to make it work? Anyone have some URL's that point to any of these PC card things that enable the use of a DVD drive on a TP 600? Is it just a card that plugs in and adds some hardware functionality, without dongles hanging off of it or anything? Is this what "Zoomed Video" PC card ports were made for? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 10:11:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA22831 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:11:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26598; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:04:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:04:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26496; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:04:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26481; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:03:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA19244; Thu, 19 Nov 98 10:02:38 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <3654330E.6E9A2910@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:02:38 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: chaun@us.ibm.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600E problems References: <852566C1.004A23B2.00@us.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I just called IBM to confirm. The 64MB SDRAM we bought in the past for the 600, #76H0295, does not work in the 600E (or 770X). They have a new part number #20L0241 for this that does work in all 600s and 770s. The 128MB SDRAM, #01K1150, does work in all 600s and 770s. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 10:24:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA23031 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:24:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25904; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:52:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25789; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25733; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:50:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA19011; Thu, 19 Nov 98 09:50:28 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <36543033.696766C@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:50:27 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: chaun@us.ibm.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600E problems References: <852566C1.004A23B2.00@us.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Do the 770X and 600E use 100MHz SDRAM instead of 66MHz SDRAM? I didn't think so. According to IBM's site, the 770X and 600E can use the 76H0294 32MB DIMM, but not the 76H0295 64MB DIMM. Anybody know about the 01K1150 128MB DIMM? --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 11:05:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA23462 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:05:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01511; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:03:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01345; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01318; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:03:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA10530; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:02:48 -1000 Message-ID: <003201be13de$6508de20$851a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: Subject: Voodoo electronics (was: Re: PS/2 keyboard support on 560?) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:02:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I thought all the splitter did was passively create 2 copies of the port; apparently not, since otherwise adding one shouldn't make an external keyboard change from not working to working. So, could someone who knows more electronics than I (e.g., almost anyone on this list) explain what the splitter really does (internally)? - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 11:16:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA23592 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:16:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29722; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:49:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:47:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29586; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29568; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA24403 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:47:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:47:20 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Trade my 8gig drive for your 5gig drive In-Reply-To: <199811190712.XAA24441@ritchie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:00:59 -0700, Teresa Selling wrote: > > >Having to load EzDrive to load win95 is really bugging me... and I don't > >really need the extra disk space. So, if anyone wants to swap their > >5gig drive +$100 for my 8gig drive let me know. Be aware that because > >of the way the drive reports its geometry, you must load EzDrive for > >Win95/98 or it will use the drive in DOS compatibility mode. For Linux > > I'm just curious, what about OS/2 and NT? Any problems > with large drives there? I had reams of trouble getting NT to realize the last 2GB of a 10GB drive existed on my desktop system. I could fdisk it, but when I tried format it, it would format, then fail at the very end (last sector?). Win95 had the same problem, but Win98 saw it just fine. I eventually formatted it under Win98 (since my boss wanted a Win98 system on there "just in case"), then quickformatted it under NT to NTFS. > It's such a shame SCSI couldn't > have been cheaper and more mainstream, since that problem > almost doesn't exist with SCSI drives. I think it's just a matter of SCSI controller manufacturers being better about keeping their drivers up to date with the latest drive geometry remapping scheme. They know their products are used primarily by businesses for large, important servers, so they keep their customers happy. EIDE is mostly mass-market sell-it-to-em-and-never-see-them-again. If more people actually *complained* about this type of stuff, we'd probably see better support all around. But how often do you upgrade the hard drive on your PC? The downside for me of having SCSI is that because manufacturers assume it's going to be used primarily in a server, the drives tend to be pretty noisy. I got an IBM Ultrastar 2ES because it was reputed to be one of the quietest 4GB SCSI drives around (performance is not stellar though). It is still noticeably noisier than most of the EIDE drives I've played with (Seagates always seem to be the noisiest though, even in EIDE). Of course the primary benefit is the low CPU utilization and multitasking capability. I was rather miffed to discover my 560E (P166) was pegged at 100% CPU utilization doing a simple ftp over my home LAN at about 800 kbytes/sec. Partly the fault of the (ISA) PCMCIA bus, and partly the fault of the EIDE drive. Meanwhile, my desktop system (PCI SCSI, PCI ethernet) barely noticed a file transfer was going on. You know, this probably explains why I never saw transfer rates higher than about 400 kbytes/sec on my 701 using the same PCMCIA ethernet card - it was being limited by the CPU. Ack, I've rambled. :-) To keep it on-topic, maybe folks might want to share how well their Thinkpads perform with various ethernet cards (the other variable in all this), PCMCIA (ISA) or Cardbus (PCI). -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 14:37:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA26168 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17035; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:32:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16811; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx (cortes.cibnor.mx [200.23.161.225]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16751; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:31:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx by cortes.cibnor.mx id aa04773; 19 Nov 98 12:29 MST Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:29:45 -0700 (MST) From: Larry Miller To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Voodoo electronics (was: Re: PS/2 keyboard support on 560?) In-Reply-To: <199811191856.NAA14724@water.vramp.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, James H. E. Maugham wrote: > Changes the pinouts of the connectors. The pins for the keyboard need to be > "re-directed" to work on the mouseport. Figures. You happen to know the specific pinouts necessary to do the change? Saludos-- larry From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 14:47:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA26223 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:42:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17564; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:38:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17422; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:38:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu (spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu [150.135.52.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17381; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:37:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (europa.opt-sci.arizona.edu [150.135.52.30]) by spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA00611; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:36:42 -0700 (MST) Received: (from stu@localhost) by europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA01974; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:37:10 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:37:10 -0700 (MST) From: Stuart Biggar Message-Id: <199811191937.MAA01974@europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> To: ross@math.hawaii.edu Subject: Re: Voodoo electronics (was: Re: PS/2 keyboard support on 560?) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > I thought all the splitter did was passively create 2 copies of the port; > apparently not, since otherwise adding one shouldn't make an > external keyboard change from not working to working. So, > could someone who knows more electronics than I (e.g., almost anyone > on this list) explain what the splitter really does (internally)? > > - David R. > > > I happen to have one of the IBM splitters (bought for a 765D). It appears that all the wires are straight through for the mouse part of the cable. The keyboard connector is different in that two of the pins are not passed through and two others of the ones actually connected are on different pins. No wonder a keyboard cannot be plugged directly into the port on the ThinkPad (or that there are two ports on the Selectabase 770 of the one for the 76X series). The IBM connectors (at least the ones in my splitter) don't have pin numbers on them and I don't know the convention for numbering the DIN type connector so I can't be more specific on the differences. Stuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuart F. Biggar Phone: (520) 621-8168 Remote Sensing Group FAX: (520) 621-8292 Optical Sciences Center University of Arizona Meinel Building PO Box 210094 Tucson, AZ 85721-0094 Internet: Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 14:53:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA26389 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17075; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:33:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:33:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16931; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:33:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16905; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:33:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (249.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.249]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id OAA11015; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:33:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <365472C8.503A3A39@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:34:32 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Teresa Selling CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Trade my 8gig drive for your 5gig drive References: <199811120647.WAA04141@ritchie.loop.com> <4.1.19981116072518.00952250@popmail.mcs.net> <36505A4B.D60623A9@mci.com> <36512940.882A8B8C@icanect.net> <36519426.8E63064D@mci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Teresa.. so do a dual boot.. i'll swap for the drive, but you really don't need to do that to play movies.. :-) Teresa Selling wrote: > But NT doesn't have a DVD movie player... one of the reasons I need to load > Win95. > > Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > > Teresa.. > > NT supports the 8.1gig drive without needing EZ Drive.. > > > > Teresa Selling wrote: > > > > > > Having to load EzDrive to load win95 is really bugging me... and I don't > > > really need the extra disk space. So, if anyone wants to swap their > > > 5gig drive +$100 for my 8gig drive let me know. Be aware that because > > > of the way the drive reports its geometry, you must load EzDrive for > > > Win95/98 or it will use the drive in DOS compatibility mode. For Linux > > > you must specify the drive geometry. Can swap just the bare drive... > > > or if you have a 770 and don't want to take the drive out of the caddie, > > > can swap with caddie and all. The 8 gig is in an OEM 770 caddie I got from > > > Bill Morrow. > > > > -- > > Happy Trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > > 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 260meg), > > 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), > > 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), > > 701C(6.4gig, 40meg), > > 755CE(no gig, 40meg), > > 750C(no gig, 4meg), > > IBM WorkPad(1meg) > > > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > > vary, Done on a > > closed road with a professional driver, Do not try this at home, Don't > > spit into the wind AND, > > GoodNIGHT, Mrs. Calabash, whereEVER you are... -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 15:14:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA26713 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18873; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:51:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:50:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18687; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18466; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:48:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial5.vramp.net (dial5.vramp.net [209.107.20.20]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA18130 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:48:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811191948.OAA18130@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:44:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Voodoo electronics (was: Re: PS/2 keyboard support on 560?) Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal References: <199811191856.NAA14724@water.vramp.net> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: Hola' Larry, On 19 Nov 98, at 12:29, Larry Miller wrote: > Figures. You happen to know the specific pinouts necessary to do the > change? No, but I could probably trace them for you if you are unable to get a cable south of the border. Saludos, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 16:24:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA27982 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:24:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24188; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:51:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23977; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:51:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from rmc1.crocker.com (schlegel@rmc1.crocker.com [204.97.12.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23938; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:51:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (schlegel@localhost) by rmc1.crocker.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA28914 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:56:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:56:27 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Schlegel Reply-To: Mark Schlegel To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 390 problem with cd-rom Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I have a new Thinkpad 390 (2626-50U), with 96 Megs of ram, the sanyo cd-rom, 3.1 GB drive... pretty much the standard 2626-50U but with the extra 64Meg of ram. I followed the instructions from both the online help system in the TP390 and the ibm thinkpad support site and still can't get the cdrom to find the OS/2 4.0 cd-rom after I get past booting the three install disks. I believe that I need to get updated Warp install disks from somewhere (the online help in the "Install OS/2" section says to get the updated disks 1 and 2 from the ibm thinkpad web site but doesn't say what the URL is). The ibm device driver matrix doesn't have any install disks on it, just the modem, bios, audio, video, trackpoint updates. I see that the matrix lists the TP390 cd-rom driver as "n/a", which sort of scares me (they don't support the cd-rom under os/2 even though they say in the online help in the thinkpad that os/2 can be installed?) I have applied the TP 390 bios update so the system bios is the latest one (v5.16) from the ibm web site. During my install attempts, I did see an error message for just a second about a problem with the os2cdrom.dmd file. The problem could be either that the cdrom is an atapi type and Warp 4 in 1996 didn't have the driver or I may need to add some lines to the config.sys file on the install diskette? thanks, Mark From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 16:50:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA28339 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10672; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:11:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:07:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10353; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:07:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10323; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:06:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from archa7.cc.uga.edu (arch7.cc.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0039EBED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:06:43 -0500 Received: from mell.cssites.uga.edu (mell.cssites.uga.edu [128.192.35.47]) by archa7.cc.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA29078 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:06:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:06:37 -0500 (EST) From: "B. Lewis Noles" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP 702c] Need Manuals Message-ID: X-X-Sender: lnoles@olympus.athens.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I bought a Thinkpad 720c and docking station (I can't remember the number right now). However, my friend had lost the manuals for both years ago. I called IBM for manual and they said they wanted $120 for it. That is almost as much as I paid for the computer. Does anyone have any old 720c manuals for sale? Or if not, I'll even pay for a xerox copy of it. The same goes for the expansion unit. Thanks, Lewis _________________________________________________________________ B. Lewis Noles (work) lnoles@arches.uga.edu (home) lnoles@olympus.athens.net Great Books Page: http://www.athens.net/~lnoles/grtbks.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 16:50:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA28343 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:50:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13969; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:58:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:57:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13667; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13609; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:56:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial5.vramp.net (dial5.vramp.net [209.107.20.20]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA14724 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:56:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811191856.NAA14724@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:53:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Voodoo electronics (was: Re: PS/2 keyboard support on 560?) Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <003201be13de$6508de20$851a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 19 Nov 98, at 11:02, David Ross wrote: > I thought all the splitter did was passively create 2 copies of the port; > apparently not, since otherwise adding one shouldn't make an external > keyboard change from not working to working. So, could someone who knows > more electronics than I (e.g., almost anyone on this list) explain what > the splitter really does (internally)? Changes the pinouts of the connectors. The pins for the keyboard need to be "re-directed" to work on the mouseport. Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share CaptJHEM@waterw.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 17:32:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA29038 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:32:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01360; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:22:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01190; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:22:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01158; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm ([12.79.54.167]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with ESMTP id <19981119222126.NJKS9138@ibm>; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:21:26 +0000 From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: , , "TP List" , "Randal Whittle" Subject: Re: TP 600 & DVD Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:17:38 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19981119222126.NJKS9138@ibm> List-Unsubscribe: The Margi card works just SUPER on my 770 233MMX Much better than the IBM decoder board with the IBM SoftDVD player (anyone got a better player for the 770?????) The Margi card allows adjustment for bright-contrast-hue=saturation! ---------- > From: cornelius-halvey@smh.com > To: chaun@us.ibm.com; TP List ; Randal Whittle > Subject: Re: TP 600 & DVD > Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 4:39 PM > > Randle, > > IBM recommends the Margi DVD-to-Go hardware MPEG -1 and -2 pccard > accelerator if you wish to watch DVD movies. The general consensus is > that even with the PII/266 processor you end up with a lot of dropped > frames with software MPEG decoding. IBM has been equivocal on whether > the new PII/300 systems will need the Margi card (the url is > www.margi.com). The card is about $300. It utilizes zoomed video and > you only need to use the dongle if you want to port the sound and/or > picture to external sources. > > I doubt the DVD player will do DIVX. > > Regards, > > Neil > > TP 600 PII/266 > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: TP 600 & DVD > Author: Randal Whittle at Internet > Date: 11/18/98 11:34 AM > > > At 02:04 PM 11/18/98 -0500, you wrote: > >The 2645-55U and 2645-A5U are designated 600E they both have a 13.3" TFT > >screen that runs at 1024x768 65k colors. No news on the 14.4" display size > >being available. > >I believe that both models can play DVD movies under Win95/98. > > As the happy owner of one of the first TP 600's, I have a question... > > If I were interested in getting a DVD drive for my 600, and I wanted to > play DVD movie disks on it (does it, by the way, handle DIVX disks?), would > I need to get this PC Card hardware MPEG thingamajig to make it work? > > Anyone have some URL's that point to any of these PC card things that > enable the use of a DVD drive on a TP 600? > > Is it just a card that plugs in and adds some hardware functionality, > without dongles hanging off of it or anything? Is this what "Zoomed Video" > PC card ports were made for? > > ------- > Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net > > *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! > - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 21:55:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA03206 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:54:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13624; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:51:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13434; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13419; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:50:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm ([12.79.14.157]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981120025027.CVPZ25361@ibm> for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 02:50:27 +0000 Message-ID: <3654D80D.59A6@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:46:37 -0500 From: Bruce Markowtz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TP List Subject: Contrast on 770? References: <19981119222126.NJKS9138@ibm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Is there any way to adjust the contrast on the 770 LCD? My screen is so bright I need sunglasses. but the contrast could be turned up a bit. Thanks! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 19 23:50:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA04712 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:50:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18044; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:49:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:48:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17934; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:48:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17922; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:48:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial6.vramp.net (dial6.vramp.net [209.107.20.21]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA19300 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:48:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811200448.XAA19300@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:44:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: PS2 and USB Ports Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal References: <199811191948.OAA18130@water.vramp.net> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 19 Nov 98, at 14:06, Larry Miller wrote: > Now I understand why the keyboard and mouse ports > on most PCs are specifically marked as to their function. A lot of people have the misconception that a PS2 port equals a USB port, i.e. you can plug just about anything into it, which is obviously not the case. Speaking of USB ports, anyone else using the one on their 600? I can swap the scanner and camera from my desktop to the 600 with a single connection. I love it. James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 06:01:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA07662 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08899; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 05:59:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 05:58:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08800; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 05:58:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr ([195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08787; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 05:57:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA18151 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:59:05 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199811200959.MAA18151@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:57:08 -0200 (IZM) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP600, and Busses! List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Today I used my TP600 on a city bus for the first time. The driver was, as usual, driving like a crazy lunatic. The bus was brand new, but with stiff shock absorbers. The road was pothole-ridden. I was wondering if this is a lethal combination for TP600's hard disk.. In other words, would I crash its head or something during this bumpy ride? thanks :) -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNlWDRDJjYwErN0xZAQHuLwP+IQwAghQOgbvni3ATHAzSnYbfcQGFu3u1 Ks5TAIju6IUli8nTAV5vAhI3aPgVGvOjyp9JLo9I/ubXpYkATzZ5ey9E+D5lOio8 KaKURMy1TtZDSRfILU3gQjkIlzHzj2ZLHUMrFpajX0OjpJY4XTiXNo4xLQ1U8Jd4 6w+N8eskylw= =9sBr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 032: Windows Loaded Correctly This Time From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 13:26:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11484 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:26:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08273; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:17:41 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07048; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:17:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA11954 for dist-thinkpad; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:17:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx (cortes.cibnor.mx [200.23.161.225]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25479; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx by cortes.cibnor.mx id aa08068; 19 Nov 98 14:06 MST Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:06:36 -0700 (MST) From: Larry Miller To: "James H. E. Maugham" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Voodoo electronics (was: Re: PS/2 keyboard support on 560?) In-Reply-To: <199811191948.OAA18130@water.vramp.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > No, but I could probably trace them for you if you are unable to get a cable > south of the border. Thanks-- couldn't find one around here, but I *think* I have one on the way with a friend coming down from Vancouver; if that doesn't work out I'll get back to you for a pinout to roll my own. This sure seems silly that one should have to get a special adaptor to plug something into a port that it fits into. Now I understand why the keyboard and mouse ports on most PCs are specifically marked as to their function. Saludos-- Larry From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 13:29:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11540 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:29:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08830; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:22:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08116; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07847; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p09.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.72]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA12536 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:16:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811201816.KAA12536@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 98 10:20:54 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe pkhoury@juno.com Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 13:29:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11548 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:29:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08836; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:22:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08154; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:22:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07893; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p09.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.72]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA12565 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:16:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811201816.KAA12565@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 98 10:21:07 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe pc_nerd@bigfoot.com Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 13:30:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11572 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08278; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:17:58 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07114; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:17:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA11964 for dist-thinkpad; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:17:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25345; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 02:40:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-227-065.usc.edu [128.125.227.65]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id XAA20734 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:40:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981119232400.009f32c0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:29:20 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: 6 GB drive noise? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, Just upgraded my TP 600's 3.2 GB HD to the 6.4 GB drive--genuine IBM "Options" & all that jazz. First thing I noticed is that there's a noticeably louder "whirr" or "hum" to the larger drive (which is also thicker, but still thin enough to be a slim drive). Its loud enough to be...err...well, a little worrisome. Any comments? Anyone else experience this? --- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net "It is hard to convince a high-school student that he will encounter a lot of problems more difficult than those of algebra and geometry," -- Edgar W. Howe in "Country Town Sayings", 1911. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 13:31:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11593 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:31:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08721; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:26:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:21:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07869; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:21:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07721; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:21:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p09.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.72]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA12443 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:15:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811201815.KAA12443@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 98 10:20:10 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Help List-Unsubscribe: I've been unsubscribed, because mail bounced from an address I no longer use. Does anyone know the list admin's address? Thanks. Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 13:32:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11607 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08263; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:18:02 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07154; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:17:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA11979 for dist-thinkpad; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25353; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 02:40:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-227-065.usc.edu [128.125.227.65]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id XAA20740 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:40:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981119232925.009f4ee0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:39:52 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: VST Zip100 for the TP 600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I've been waiting for this drive to be released, as I have really been wanting to access zip disks with my Thinkpad, but hooking up an external drive is just too troublesome and bulky (I either had to disconnect the SCSI Zip from my desktop and drag all its cables over or us a parallel drive which is (a) slow as hell and (b) hooked up to my wife's work PC for her to shuttle files back & forth. At any rate, there weren't many good solutions for my ThinkPad, and I knew I didn't want to drag around a standard Zip drive--all the cables & power adapter, etc.--pain in the butt. So I was excited when finding out that VST was working on one for my TP 600 that would plug right in to the Ultraslim bay where the CD or floppy drive went, but they didn't have it available last summer (the space was too thin--they had them for larger TP's like the 770, but not the thinner 600). After a recent experience wishing I had one again, I went ahead and looked into it again...voila, its available now! At a little over $200, the price was stiffer than I'd like, but oh well. And oh, yes, Iomega announced at Comdex that they have a 250 MB Zip drive coming out by the end of the year, so that's annoying too, but I'll live. Got it today, installed it...seems to work just fine. Pretty neat, actually. I'd like to be able to boot from it in a pinch too, but when I checked last summer, VST said it couldn't--primarily because IBM didn't design the ThinkPads with anything like that in mind (I don't know if a BIOS flash would allow that or not). They said they'd love to have it do that too, but that the ball was in IBM's court on that kind of feature. Anyone else get something like this for their ThinkPad? This is the first time I've actually bought something for a ThinkPad bay. Well, actually when I had a 750C and the prices came down to a laughable figure such that they were being dumped for really cheap, I bought a TV Tuner that went into that bay under the flip-up keyboard. That was pretty interesting, but overall rather underwhelming. I expect to actually get a lot more usage >from the bay-mounted Zip drive. ----- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net (My opinions are my own, but since I'm right, they should be yours too.) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 13:42:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11747 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:42:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09007; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:27:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:24:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08394; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07879; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p09.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.72]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA12522 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:16:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811201816.KAA12522@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 98 10:20:44 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: subscribe king.ching.hwa.vip.autocomputer@bigfoot.com Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 13:59:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA12018 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:59:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11225; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:47:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:46:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11105; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns.us.fortis.com (ns.us.fortis.com [167.79.91.99]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11088; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns.us.fortis.com (root@localhost) by ns.us.fortis.com with ESMTP id MAA14292 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:48:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from mime.us.fortis.com (mime.us.fortis.com [167.79.12.2]) by ns.us.fortis.com with ESMTP id MAA14287 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:48:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from US.FORTIS.COM (unverified [167.79.36.4]) by mime.us.fortis.com (Integralis SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:43:32 -0600 Received: from WOODBYGATE-Message_Server by US.FORTIS.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:42:21 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:39:17 -0600 From: Mike Hunziker To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Paul? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Did you lose your marbles Paul? Are you not the guy who corrects everyone else on how to unsubscribe? Just curious..... Back to thinkpad stuff..... >>> "Paul Khoury" 11/20/98 10:21am >>> unsubscribe pc_nerd@bigfoot.com Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 **************************************************************** Please Note The information in this E-mail message is legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you, the reader of this message, are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you should not further disseminate, distribute, or forward this E-mail message. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender. Thank you ***************************************************************** From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 16:13:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA13987 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:13:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22960; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:06:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22684; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:06:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu (spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu [150.135.52.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22649; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (europa.opt-sci.arizona.edu [150.135.52.30]) by spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA01373; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:05:09 -0700 (MST) Received: (from stu@localhost) by europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.8.6/8.8.6) id OAA07058; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:05:43 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:05:43 -0700 (MST) From: Stuart Biggar Message-Id: <199811202105.OAA07058@europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> To: solarisonintel@egroups.com Subject: PII notebook and x86 Solaris 7 - inital success Cc: pablo@memco.co.il, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hello, For those hoping to run x86 on PII notebooks, I have have something positive to report (so far). I got my "free" version of Solaris 7 - still waiting for the contract (x86 server) and subscription to come through with kits. NOTE: The notebook used is NOT, repeat NOT, on the HCL so you are on your own if things don't work. I have been able to do a full install of Solaris 7 x86 onto an IBM 770E (PII 266, 224 MB RAM, 5 GB IBM IDE HD, 10-24X IBM (Sanyo) CD-ROM, Trident 9397 4 MB video system, installed in an IBM SelectaDock 3 with an IBM (Intel) PCI 100/10 ethernet card (Wake-on-LAN capable). Default 770E IDE setup of HD on primary master and CD on secondary master (CD is hot swappable under NT 4 - can put in 2nd battery, CD, or floppy in the bay - who knows under Solaris). x86 found the ethernet card on boot from floppy along with the 2 IDE interfaces and the SCSI (dock). I disabled the Adaptec SCSI chip in the SelectaDock based on previous hangs with 2.6 and a 765D in the same docking station. I used a interactive install with a VGA display, VGA lcd screen, 14" size. Full install in about an hour. It rebooted and came up, however, the network card wasn't seen. PCMCIA did not work, however, a developmental 2.6 pcic driver I had for the 765D works in the 770E and allowed use of a TDK Global Class PCMCIA modem as pc1. I copied over the asppp config files from the 765D and asppp worked right off. I plugged in a 3C589D in slot 0 and the pcelx driver loaded. I took down asppp and then did an ifconfig and then a route command and got the 3C589D up on the wire! Still to do: 1) get the Xi Graphics or XFree Xserver to allow full use of the 14" TFT XGA using the Trident 9397 (I know that the Xi Xserver for Linux works with this machine so I hope the x86 version will also). 2) figure out how to make Solaris see the PCI ethernet (it doesn't work as iprb0 like it did with 2.6 on the 765D with the same dock/card). 3) figure out why the machine seems to hang during boot if the 3C589D is plugged in at boot. The card works fine if plugged in and configured AFTER the machine comes up and root logs in. Suggestions welcome. Notes: 1) I had a 500 MB existing DOS partition on the disk and a previous install of RH Linux 5.1 in an extended partition. DOS fdisk would not delete the extended partion. I used x86 to change the partition to Solaris and then I got the extends beyond end of disk error. I just stepped down the size of the partition by 10 MB per try until it accepted things. I don't know how much space was wasted but it loaded. x86 boot loader offers a DOS boot option and it works. 2) I haven't tried CDE (I'm stuck on OW) but the CDE login comes up and Openwindows 3.6.1 starts and runs OK (well as OK as it can in a 640x480 window). Anyway, Solaris 7 appears to be better for this particular notebook than 2.6 with DU3 or MU2 as 2.6 never would even install (and I tried numerous times). Stuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuart F. Biggar Phone: (520) 621-8168 Remote Sensing Group FAX: (520) 621-8292 Optical Sciences Center University of Arizona Meinel Building PO Box 210094 Tucson, AZ 85721-0094 Internet: Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 16:20:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA14164 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08300; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:23:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:19:48 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07452; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:19:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA12026 for dist-thinkpad; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:19:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21868; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA10730; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:31:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from rcc05052 ([166.35.168.150]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981120153155.MNOA5890@rcc05052>; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:31:55 -0600 Message-ID: <36558B6D.1A31@ticnet.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:31:57 -0600 From: Jim McGhee X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: turgut kalfaoglu CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP600, and Busses! References: <199811200959.MAA18151@home.egenet.com.tr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, Seems like I remember reading somewhere that the laptop shouldn't be moved while it is running. I believe the disk drives are made to be fairly rugged when the heads are parked, but if the drive is shaken while its in the middle of a write, I don't see how it could keep from writing some of the data in the wrong place. Good luck, Jim McGhee turgut kalfaoglu wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Today I used my TP600 on a city bus for the first time. > > The driver was, as usual, driving like a crazy lunatic. > The bus was brand new, but with stiff shock absorbers. > The road was pothole-ridden. > > I was wondering if this is a lethal combination for TP600's hard disk.. > In other words, would I crash its head or something during this bumpy ride? > > thanks :) -turgut > > - -- > turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. > Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr > http://bbsturk.bbs.tr > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBNlWDRDJjYwErN0xZAQHuLwP+IQwAghQOgbvni3ATHAzSnYbfcQGFu3u1 > Ks5TAIju6IUli8nTAV5vAhI3aPgVGvOjyp9JLo9I/ubXpYkATzZ5ey9E+D5lOio8 > KaKURMy1TtZDSRfILU3gQjkIlzHzj2ZLHUMrFpajX0OjpJY4XTiXNo4xLQ1U8Jd4 > 6w+N8eskylw= > =9sBr > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Windows Error 032: Windows Loaded Correctly This Time From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 18:23:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA16003 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:23:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14805; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:33:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:32:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14649; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:32:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14623; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:31:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA03939 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:31:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from lax-ca72-36.ix.netcom.com(207.223.161.228) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma003795; Fri Nov 20 13:30:59 1998 From: "Lloyd Korn" To: Subject: How do I re-subscribe? Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:29:57 -0800 Message-ID: <001801be14bc$28670580$03000004@expwncog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <199811200959.MAA18151@home.egenet.com.tr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I was bumped off this mailing list due to a "full mailbox". How do I resubscribe? Also, will Iomega be coming out with 250 mg Zip drives that fit in the Thinkpad Ultra bays anytime soon? ---- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 21:58:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA18531 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:58:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08416; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:51:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08281; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:51:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08262; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:51:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p25.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.88]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA07328 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:46:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811210246.SAA07328@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 98 18:50:45 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ThinkPad 1401 List-Unsubscribe: Is there a ThinkPad called the ThinkPad 1401? Saw this machine in a book at work. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 23:05:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA19198 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10671; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:03:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:02:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10486; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:02:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10471; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:02:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA01582; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:02:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:02:02 -0500 (EST) From: Michael To: Paul Khoury cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 1401 In-Reply-To: <199811210246.SAA07328@ritchie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Well there's a 1410 (i series) & a 1450 (again a "i" series). Have not heard of a 1401 however.. On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > Is there a ThinkPad called the ThinkPad 1401? Saw this machine in a book > at work. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 23:05:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA19212 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10774; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:04:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:03:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10630; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hil-img-6.compuserve.com (hil-img-6.compuserve.com [149.174.177.136]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10582; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:03:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hil-img-6.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.16) id XAA26456; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:02:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:02:02 -0500 From: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL Subject: Re: ThinkPad 1401 Sender: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL To: Paul Khoury , ThinkPad List Message-ID: <199811202302_MC2-6103-C2A3@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Paul, Not sure but there is a TP1410 -- that's the low-end "i" series if you ca= n call 12.1tft with P 233 32MB RAM CDROM floppy modem and sound for $1499 "low" Hugh Wyn Griffith Seminole, FL, USA Using Virtual Access OLR on Win98 = From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 23:55:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA19644 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:55:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12396; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:54:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:53:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12262; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:53:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12250; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts_jl ([12.77.31.186]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981121045247.IZKA4700@dts_jl> for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 04:52:47 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981120234016.00b456b0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:40:16 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: ThinkPad 1401 In-Reply-To: <199811210246.SAA07328@ritchie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 06:50 PM 11/20/98 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >Is there a ThinkPad called the ThinkPad 1401? Saw this machine in a book >at work. > http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/iseries/index.html#comparisonchart From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 21 00:03:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA19709 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13277; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:02:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:01:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13034; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:01:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12989; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:01:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from lou (user-38ldh42.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.196.130]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA31028; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:00:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981120205958.00a2fe90@mindspring.com> X-Sender: lou1358@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:59:58 -0800 To: John Shoemaker , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: How to add a Smart Card to TP 380ED Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have a Smart Card adapter with 24 meg of RAM from my Kodak DC 260 camera. CardBus detected it and tried to install it but I can see nothing to indicate it is installed.. Shouldn't it show up as a 24 meg hard drive or removable drive? Any suggestions? Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 21 00:50:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA20118 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:50:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14802; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:50:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:48:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14664; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:48:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14652; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from banquo (Banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.64.168.119]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8/L) with SMTP id VAA01808 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:48:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <022a01be1512$8a017ae0$77a840ab@banquo> From: "Benjamin Koh" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Registration software Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:48:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: OK, this is rather silly, but does anyone know where I can get the software to register my 560X? A URL or an email with the file attached would be appreciated. I hadn't gotten around to registering my 560X when it crashed and I reinstalled Windows. Problem is, the registration software is on the recovery CD, and I can't use it because my CD-ROM (Panasonic KXL-810A) isn't supported by the recovery disk. I installed Windows 98 instead, then downloaded all the updates. Works fine, except Win98 takes forever to come out of standby - MS "redesigned" it that way. Benjamin From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 21 09:15:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA23930 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03836; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:13:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03698; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.interlog.com (root@[207.34.202.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03686; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:13:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from PII233 (209-20-1-17.dialin.interlog.com [209.20.1.17]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA19046 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:13:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Lance Nichols" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: Thinkpad 760 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:09:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be1558$9515ece0$0300005a@PII233.thorncliffe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: SSBoYXZlIGEgZnJpZW5kIHdhbnRpbmcgdG8gc2VsbCBoaXMgVGhpbmtwYWQgNzYwIGZhaXJseSBz b29uLg0KDQpQOTAsIDI0TUIgUkFNDQo3MjAgKyBhIDJHQiBkcml2ZSAoSSB0aGluayBmb3JnZXQg dGhlIHNwZWNzIGF0IHdvcmsuLi4pDQoxMGJhc2VUIGFuZCBNZWdhaGVydHogNTZrIG1vZGVtDQph Y3RpdmUgbWF0cml4IGRpc3BsYXkNCg0KY291cGxlIG9mIG90aGVyIGdhZGdldHMgdGhhdCBJIGNh bid0IHJlbWVtYmVyLCBidXQgd2lsbCBmb3J3YXJkIHRvIGFueW9uZSBpbnRlcmVzdGVkLg0KZHJv cCBtZSBhIGxpbmUgYW5kIGxldCBtZSBrbm93IHdoYXQgaXQgd291bGQgYmUgd29ydGggdGhlc2Ug ZGF5cywgb3IgbWFrZSBhbiBvZmZlci4NCg0KIldvcmRzIGFyZSB0aGUgbW9zdCBwb3dlcmZ1bCBk cnVnIHVzZWQgYnkgbWFua2luZC4gIg0KDQpLaXBsaW5nICgxODY1LTE5MzYpDQoNCkxhbmNlIE5p Y2hvbHMNCnRoaW5rcGFkQGludGVybG9nLmNvbQ0KSUNRICMgODI0OTExNw== From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 21 10:30:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA24575 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05728; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:29:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:28:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05555; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:28:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.advi.net (root@mail.advi.net [208.139.144.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05541; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ecamin (s36.advi.net [208.139.149.36]) by mail.advi.net (8.9.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA02118; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 05:24:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000801be1563$982a30c0$24958bd0@ecamin> From: "Edwin A Camin" To: "Michael" , "Paul Khoury" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: ThinkPad 1401 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:28:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: There was an IBM 1401 back in the 60's. Filled a room and had an enormous 10K memory. Cutting edge for the time. Ed To err is human, but to blame it on the computer is even more so. -----Original Message----- From: Michael To: Paul Khoury Cc: ThinkPad List Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 6:04 PM Subject: Re: ThinkPad 1401 > >Well there's a 1410 (i series) & a 1450 (again a "i" series). > >Have not heard of a 1401 however.. > > > >On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > >> Is there a ThinkPad called the ThinkPad 1401? Saw this machine in a book >> at work. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 21 12:33:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA25654 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09591; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:32:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:32:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09430; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09413; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:31:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (mg131-145.ricochet.net [204.179.131.145]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA24891; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:31:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <006d01be1574$c9874e30$0201a8c0@holygrail> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "TP List" , "Randal Whittle" Subject: Re: 6 GB drive noise? Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:31:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I just did the exact same thing via the inestimable Bill Morrow of our very own list. The drive is definitely louder but I guess I can live with it. David -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle To: TP List Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 7:25 PM Subject: 6 GB drive noise? >Hi all, > > Just upgraded my TP 600's 3.2 GB HD to the 6.4 GB drive--genuine IBM >"Options" & all that jazz. First thing I noticed is that there's a >noticeably louder "whirr" or "hum" to the larger drive (which is also >thicker, but still thin enough to be a slim drive). > > Its loud enough to be...err...well, a little worrisome. Any comments? >Anyone else experience this? > >--- >Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net > "It is hard to convince a high-school student that he will encounter a > lot of problems more difficult than those of algebra and geometry," > -- Edgar W. Howe in "Country Town Sayings", 1911. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 21 18:46:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA28959 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 18:46:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19053; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 18:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 18:43:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18874; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 18:43:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.119.93]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18862; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 18:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.119.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/08/04 5.11)) id SAA11421; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 18:43:04 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from concentric.net (ts003d35.okc-ok.concentric.net [206.173.130.143]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id SAA07154; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 18:43:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36574FC9.75C59CC@concentric.net> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:42:01 -0600 From: "Robert D. Baron" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu CC: rwhittle@usa.net Subject: Re: VST Zip100 for the TP600 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: R. Whittle writes: > Anyone else get something like this for their ThinkPad? Yes, I bought one when I bought my TP600 in early October. I think it is better than sliced bread! --Bob Baron From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 22 12:16:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA07670 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 12:15:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19149; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 12:02:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 12:01:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19011; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 12:01:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.1.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18999; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 12:01:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.194]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22652 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:01:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.43); 22 Nov 98 18:01:24 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.43); 22 Nov 98 18:01:13 +0200 Received: from magrathea.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.140) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.43) with ESMTP; 22 Nov 98 18:01:10 +0200 Received: from babylon5.stelarcom.de (babylon5.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.2]) by Magrathea.stelarcom.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA01096 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:59:58 +0100 Message-Id: <199811221659.RAA01096@Magrathea.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:59:56 +0100 (MEZ) Reply-To: "Alexander Wagner" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Fuel Control 385ED List-Unsubscribe: Hi! Following problem: How can I determin more or less exact the capacity of my batteries? Problem is that here the 385ED only says: 100%, 80%, 10% or less. That's like: "I've some power" or "I've nothing". Any ideas? (System is running OS/2 Warp 4 of course, menitioned levels in Fuel-Control as well as in Object Desktops statusbar.) Can I use the fuel-control of my 760 in any way? This one uses smoth display of capacity. -- CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You may also reply to Alexander.Wagner@gmx.de or Alexander.Wagner@gmx.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 22 14:27:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA08857 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 14:27:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28420; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 14:26:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 14:20:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27576; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 14:20:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27389; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 14:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from banquo (Banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.64.168.119]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8/L) with SMTP id LAA26448; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 11:19:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001201be164d$09d06de0$77a840ab@banquo> From: "Benjamin Koh" To: "Alexander Wagner" , "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Subject: Re: Fuel Control 385ED Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 11:19:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: This question crops up frequently on comp.sys.laptops as well. It is answered in the IBM thinkpad online support area. The basic problem is that 380/385 models do not have "smart" batteries. Monitoring of battery power is done via voltage levels. For Li-ion batteries the voltage is relatively constant until power is very low, then it drops. Thus the fuel-gauge program can only detect full charge (100%), partial charge (80%) and low charge (10%). Other models have "smart" batteries with built-in microprocessors that monitor the charge level accurately and report in 1% levels. You'll just have to use some sort of timer program to gauge how much power you have left. You can call IBM Easyserv and they'll tell you the same thing. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 22 15:27:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA09413 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05927; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:21:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:19:40 -0500 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05818; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:19:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from moore@localhost) by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id PAA10335 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:19:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02538; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 14:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer ([12.78.197.215]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981122195539.HPPO27249@oemcomputer>; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 19:55:39 +0000 Message-ID: <36586B6C.7D2A@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 14:52:12 -0500 From: Simon Bryquer Reply-To: sbryquer@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Koh CC: Alexander Wagner , ThinkPad Mailinglist Subject: Re: Fuel Control 385ED References: <001201be164d$09d06de0$77a840ab@banquo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Or one can also go to ThinkPad Configuration and select POWER MANAGEMENT settings and select the ALARM tab and set accordingly. Simon Bryquer ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Benjamin Koh wrote: > > This question crops up frequently on comp.sys.laptops as well. It is > answered in the IBM thinkpad online support area. The basic problem is that > 380/385 models do not have "smart" batteries. Monitoring of battery power is > done via voltage levels. For Li-ion batteries the voltage is relatively > constant until power is very low, then it drops. Thus the fuel-gauge program > can only detect full charge (100%), partial charge (80%) and low charge > (10%). Other models have "smart" batteries with built-in microprocessors > that monitor the charge level accurately and report in 1% levels. You'll > just have to use some sort of timer program to gauge how much power you have > left. You can call IBM Easyserv and they'll tell you the same thing. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 22 19:31:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA11744 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 19:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24862; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 19:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 19:22:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24664; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 19:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24652; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 19:22:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-223-194.usc.edu [128.125.223.194]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id QAA17513; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:22:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981122161817.00a134e0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:21:38 -0800 To: Lee Hetherington , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: 6 GB drive noise? In-Reply-To: <3658A81A.AC25F672@sls.lcs.mit.edu> References: <4.1.19981119232400.009f32c0@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 07:11 PM 11/22/98 -0500, you wrote: >I've seen 3 of the 6.4GB drives in TP600s. They definitely seem louder >than the 4GB drives they replaced. I guess as long as I'm hearing others with the same "noise" level, I have less reason to worry. Its just that it sounds almost as if there's a grain of sand in the bearing! >--Lee Hetherington > >PS: We just received some of the hard disk ultraslim bay adaptors. >Nice. Now we can have 10+GB of drive space in a 600. However, it is >not hot or warm swappable. You have to completely shut down to insert >or remove a second drive. The machine beeps if you attempt to remove >the second drive, even if it is suspended. Hey now, *that* is pretty cool! I was under the impression that the TP 600 could not have a 2nd HD put in its slim bay. ------ Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net - Smile :-) Its a curve that can set a LOT of things straight. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 22 22:15:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA13558 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:15:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27118; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 20:29:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 20:28:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27029; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 20:28:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27017; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 20:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from Fink_TP770.upstart.com (ali-ca42-05.ix.netcom.com [209.110.234.69]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8/L) with SMTP id RAA17609 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:28:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811230128.RAA17609@smtp2.Stanford.EDU> X-Sender: rfink@rfink.pobox.stanford.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:28:29 -0800 To: From: Robert Fink Subject: [770] Keyboard: how many keys can you depress at once Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Fellow sufferers: I wonder if anyone has ever run into this "feature." I just bought myself a nifty "mixman" piece of software that turns the computer into a sophisticated sample-triggering and manipulation machine. ("...I got two turntables and a microphone..."). The problem? Real-time performance is accomplished by pressing keys to play "tracks," of which there can be as many as 16. But I can only hold down two keys at once. When I hit the third, if none of the three is a modifier key, all I get is a system beep, which I assume means: "So sorry--you clumsily hit three keys at once. You couldn't possibly have meant *that*--so I'll ignore the last one. Bye!" Is this behavior controllable? I'd love to be able to press as many as eight keys at once. My Steinway (only slightly more expensive than my Thinkpad!) lets me do this. :) rwf _____________________________________________ Robert Fink UCLA; Stanford Humanities Center 98-99 NEW: rfink@leland.stanford.edu bfink@ix.netcom.com "Just like virtual sound-objects in sampler music technology, subjectivity today is a gaseous element, expanding and contracting, time-stretched, cross-faded, and sound-accelerated." --Kroker and Weinstein, _Data Trash_ ______________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 23 02:12:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA15514 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:12:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08553; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:12:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:09:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08372; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:09:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08360; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:09:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (165.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.165]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA22469; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:09:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36590A7B.76946423@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:10:51 -0500 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randal Whittle CC: TP List Subject: Re: 6 GB drive noise? References: <4.1.19981119232400.009f32c0@rcf.usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Randy.. 1. the HDD has a one or three year warranty.. 2. I just stuck one in a 760ED and its about like most HDD's, noise wise.. 3. the noise level from HDD to HDD seems to vary... (i have notices this over a range of many HDD's) let me know if you have any problem with that HDD.. :-) i have plenty and i can swap it out if you wish.. Randal Whittle wrote: > > Hi all, > > Just upgraded my TP 600's 3.2 GB HD to the 6.4 GB drive--genuine IBM > "Options" & all that jazz. First thing I noticed is that there's a > noticeably louder "whirr" or "hum" to the larger drive (which is also > thicker, but still thin enough to be a slim drive). > > Its loud enough to be...err...well, a little worrisome. Any comments? > Anyone else experience this? > > --- > Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net > "It is hard to convince a high-school student that he will encounter a > lot of problems more difficult than those of algebra and geometry," > -- Edgar W. Howe in "Country Town Sayings", 1911. -- Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 260meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.4gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver, Do not try this at home, Don't spit into the wind AND, GoodNIGHT, Mrs. Calabash, whereEVER you are... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 23 03:23:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA15914 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 03:23:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12501; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 03:22:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 03:19:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12291; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 03:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from plexus.uke.uni-hamburg.de (plexus.uke.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.96.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12278; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 03:18:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from dr.-wintzer (pawlow.uke.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.96.151]) by plexus.uke.uni-hamburg.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA02581; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:19:17 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36591A83.33ED@uke.uni-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:19:15 +0100 From: Thorsten Jaekel Reply-To: jaekel@uke.uni-hamburg.de Organization: UKE Hamburg X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Panasonic CD-ROM and Recovery, was: Registration software References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Benjamin Koh wrote: > OK, this is rather silly, but does anyone know where I can get the software > to register my 560X? A URL or an email with the file attached would be > appreciated. > > I hadn't gotten around to registering my 560X when it crashed and I > reinstalled Windows. Problem is, the registration software is on the > recovery CD, and I can't use it because my CD-ROM (Panasonic KXL-810A) isn't > supported by the recovery disk. I installed Windows 98 instead, then > downloaded all the updates. Works fine, except Win98 takes forever to come > out of standby - MS "redesigned" it that way. > > Benjamin There has to be a way to make the Panasonic CD-ROM work with the Recovery CD, or rather to make it work with the accompanying Boot diskette. I just got a new TP 560X (P 233 MMX, 4 GB HD, 12.1" TFT (no bad pixels - yesss), 64 MB RAM - and for the first time AFAIK, IBM is selling a TP, this particular model, that is, cheaper in Germany than in the US - yesssss again). I have not tried using the recovery CD yet, but I am going to. In preparation for this, one of the things I did was search for new drivers for the KXL-D740 on Panasonic's website. They just have the same setup disk for download that came with my CD-drive. Now this should be a situation very similar to Ben's - come to think of it, maybe it isn't - is the KXL-810A a PCMCIA CD-ROM (I never heard of it)? Can someone who has done this before please post (or email) instructions on how to add support for the Panasonic PCMCIA CD-DOM to the recovery Boot diskette? I assume that card and socket services from the IBM DOS utility disk have to be added, and then the PCMCIA-card and SCSI driver plus MSCEDEX or something like that have to be installed. Will all this fit onto the Boot diskette? The (small) point enabler that comes with the CD-drive is PCMCIA chipset specific so that it probably won't work with the 560X - is that correct? I seem to remember that someone asked a similar question in comp.sys.laptops recently, but I did not see an answer yet. This , I assume is a common problem, so can someone please direct me to the solution, and maybe help out Ben as well? Thanks, Thorsten From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 23 03:33:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA15977 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 03:33:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12853; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 03:27:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 03:27:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12765; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 03:27:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12748; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 03:27:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA32755; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:28:27 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199811230728.KAA32755@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "Benjamin Koh" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:26:41 -0200 (IZM) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <022a01be1512$8a017ae0$77a840ab@banquo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Registration software List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Don't bother. I registered my TP 600 via the built-in software, never received anything.. - -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNllUgTJjYwErN0xZAQGirAQAoS6BEXHMKpeHuxXnKmqBXkrzQcC6rAEt qknjchNqaGDTSIxA2wNRODjBjRNgb6Sxb8WScGdRykd+CNCfVkY3P7utKK/dyk5g mwH2ZL0sK8fjGW+hLthdn4wUoc3a1OsxLgVDPmhSEvZmpyipNXG6XsF4PcMBXWI2 l6j9BtyptTU= =sw4j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 032: Windows Loaded Correctly This Time From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 23 04:18:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA16238 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 04:18:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08995; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:20:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:17:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08818; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08806; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:17:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (165.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.165]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA05738; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:17:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36590C80.61157527@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:19:28 -0500 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Koh CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Registration software References: <022a01be1512$8a017ae0$77a840ab@banquo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Benjamin.. the recovery "image" is a zip file.. you should be able to open it and extract the registration software.. BUT.. all you really need to do is call the IBM help line 800-772-2227 and register it with one of the tech support people.. Benjamin Koh wrote: > > OK, this is rather silly, but does anyone know where I can get the software > to register my 560X? A URL or an email with the file attached would be > appreciated. > > I hadn't gotten around to registering my 560X when it crashed and I > reinstalled Windows. Problem is, the registration software is on the > recovery CD, and I can't use it because my CD-ROM (Panasonic KXL-810A) isn't > supported by the recovery disk. I installed Windows 98 instead, then > downloaded all the updates. Works fine, except Win98 takes forever to come > out of standby - MS "redesigned" it that way. > > Benjamin -- Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 260meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.4gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver, Do not try this at home, Don't spit into the wind AND, GoodNIGHT, Mrs. Calabash, whereEVER you are... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 23 10:00:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA18610 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:00:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02248; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:57:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:56:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01954; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01878; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:55:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:54:56 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-11.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id JAA28201 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:54:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3659773B.B2DD73B@csc.com> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:54:51 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Registration software References: <199811230728.KAA32755@home.egenet.com.tr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Same here. I thought I was supposed to receive some monogrammed nameplate or something when I registered my 770. Obviously it didn't mean that much to me, since that was 7 months ago and I haven't even thought about it since. However, why did IBM mention it during registration if it's going to be ignored?? Rob turgut kalfaoglu wrote: > > Don't bother. I registered my TP 600 via the built-in software, never received anything.. > > - -turgut From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 23 10:11:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA18721 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03121; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:05:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:05:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02997; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:05:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from cayuga.cs.rochester.edu (cayuga.cs.rochester.edu [192.5.53.209]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02960; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:04:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from slate.cs.rochester.edu (slate.cs.rochester.edu [192.5.53.101]) by cayuga.cs.rochester.edu (8.6.9/O) with ESMTP id KAA29853; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:04:04 -0500 Received: from atto.cs.rochester.edu (atto.cs.rochester.edu [192.5.53.189]) by slate.cs.rochester.edu (8.6.9/O) with ESMTP id KAA03756; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:03:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (bukys@localhost) by atto.cs.rochester.edu (SMI-8.6/N++) with SMTP id KAA20508; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:03:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199811231503.KAA20508@atto.cs.rochester.edu> To: Rob Bell , "turgut kalfaoglu" cc: ThinkPad List , bukys@cs.rochester.edu Subject: Re: Registration software In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:54:51 CST." <3659773B.B2DD73B@csc.com> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:03:55 -0500 From: Liudvikas Bukys List-Unsubscribe: I just received my TP770 nameplate, 11 months after registration. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 23 10:56:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA19132 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:56:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05745; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:44:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05593; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:44:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from dewdrop2.mindspring.com (dewdrop2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05581; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lou (user-38ldh5k.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.196.180]) by dewdrop2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA14693 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:44:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981123074055.00a4c340@mindspring.com> X-Sender: lou1358@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 07:40:55 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: Can anyone help? Smart Card adapter installation TP380ED Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have a Smart Card adapter with 24 meg of RAM from my Kodak DC 260 camera. CardBus detected it and tried to install it but I can see nothing to indicate it is installed.. Shouldn't it show up as a 24 meg hard drive or removable drive? Windows 95b software detects and says it was installed but the System/Device manager shows a question mark. Any suggestions? Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 23 14:14:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA22033 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:14:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16972; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:49:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:47:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16671; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall.hd.ibm.de (firewall.hd.ibm.de [192.101.197.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16651; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:47:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com by firewall.hd.ibm.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03/TWS 4.03.3-cherub) id AA06548; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:43:37 +0100 Received: from pool8.heidelbg.ibm.com (pool8.heidelbg.ibm.com [9.228.3.108]) by mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.4-mailserver) with ESMTP id TAA20822 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:43:56 +0100 (MEZ) Received: (from krumeich@localhost) by pool8.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.2-pool) id TAA81636; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:43:55 +0100 (MEZ) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:43:55 +0100 (MEZ) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Registration Software Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I was getting suspicious about IBM taking so long to process the registration. I finally called the registration hotline in Frankfurt and the guy registered the machine for me on the phone. It seemed to me that he didn't even bother to check whether my registration had been processed. Anyway, I asked if I could receive the name plate and he said that he would see to it. Compared to the obnoxiousness of the registration program that's a bit irritating... Alexander -- Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 23 14:36:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA22381 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:36:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12506; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:41:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:39:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12366; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:39:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com ([207.68.143.160]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12315; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer - 153.34.177.117 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:38:24 -0800 Message-ID: <001d01be1708$32b12540$75b12299@oemcomputer> From: "MJC" To: "ThinPad Mailing List" Subject: TP i 1450. First time laptop user, question about battery. Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:38:41 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I finally got my TP i 1450 yesterday, and now I have couple of questions. I will use this machine as a desktop replacement, so most of the time it will be on my desk, should I take the battery out and use the power cord or should I leave the battery in (even if I will not use it, but just in case I need a charge battery). Also I tried to use the TP update connector, but I got a message that it could not get the information about my computer, is it because I just registered or is this a problem I should contact IBM with. Anyway, happy to be onboard, thanks for your help. MJC. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 23 16:05:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA23753 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 16:05:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25687; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:57:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:52:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25345; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25301; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg136-033.ricochet.net [204.179.136.33]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22747; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:52:12 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Randal Whittle" , "TP List" Subject: RE: 6 GB drive noise? Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:52:11 -0800 Message-ID: <004f01be1723$243dd9c0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981122161817.00a134e0@rcf.usc.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > >PS: We just received some of the hard disk ultraslim bay adaptors. > >Nice. Now we can have 10+GB of drive space in a 600. However, it is > >not hot or warm swappable. You have to completely shut down to insert > >or remove a second drive. The machine beeps if you attempt to remove > >the second drive, even if it is suspended. > > Hey now, *that* is pretty cool! I was under the impression > that the TP > 600 could not have a 2nd HD put in its slim bay. It's part #05K5336, and it's supposed to work on all the 600's after a BIOS update. The manual is at: ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/600hddad.pdf They're cheap, too: $28 plus shipping at www.hardwarestreet.com. I found them by going to www.shopper.com and typing "ultraslimbay". -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 23 17:53:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA25347 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:53:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02055; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:45:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:42:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01848; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (smtp.thegrid.net [209.162.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01824; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15139 invoked from network); 23 Nov 1998 22:41:45 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 23 Nov 1998 22:41:45 -0000 Received: from tp-770e (oak-ts2-h1-50-36.ispmodems.net [209.162.50.36]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA16219; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:41:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001801be1732$5497f100$2432a2d1@tp-770e> From: "AS" To: , "Lou" Subject: Re: Can anyone help? Smart Card adapter installation TP380ED Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:40:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I had the same problem. Sometimes it wouldn't show up after I inserted it. I meesed around with IRQ settings and made more resourses availible and that is when it started to show up all the time. Hope that helps. Alex TP 770E 954851U -----Original Message----- From: Lou To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 7:46 AM Subject: Can anyone help? Smart Card adapter installation TP380ED >I have a Smart Card adapter with 24 meg of RAM from my Kodak DC 260 camera. > CardBus detected it and tried to install it but I can see nothing to >indicate it is installed.. Shouldn't it show up as a 24 meg hard drive or >removable drive? > >Windows 95b software detects and says it was installed but the >System/Device manager shows a question mark. > >Any suggestions? > >Warm regards, > >-lou- > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 23 20:27:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA27366 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:27:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04751; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:29:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:27:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04639; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:27:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.61]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04459; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:26:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-11.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.11]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA12579; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:26:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981123182841.006b1708@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:28:41 -0500 To: Rob Bell , ThinkPad List From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Registration software In-Reply-To: <3659773B.B2DD73B@csc.com> References: <199811230728.KAA32755@home.egenet.com.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:54 AM 11/23/98 -0600, Rob Bell wrote: >Same here. I thought I was supposed to receive some monogrammed >nameplate or something when I registered my 770. Obviously it didn't >mean that much to me, since that was 7 months ago and I haven't even >thought about it since. However, why did IBM mention it during >registration if it's going to be ignored?? > >Rob > >turgut kalfaoglu wrote: >> >> Don't bother. I registered my TP 600 via the built-in software, never received anything.. I *just* received 1 of 3 nameplates from 3 9549-1AU's I bought back in *April*. :) ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 02:49:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA02169 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:49:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23993; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:48:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:47:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23862; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23845; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (231.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.231]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA19269; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:47:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <365A64DA.69DCD2AD@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:48:42 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MJC CC: ThinPad Mailing List Subject: Re: TP i 1450. First time laptop user, question about battery. References: <001d01be1708$32b12540$75b12299@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: leave the battery in.. it won't damage it.. and it will act as a built in UPS in case of power failure.. :-) i have two 701's that run all the time, and have been, for months, throgh many florida flicker and flash... uhh florida power and light (this reminds me of Joseph Lucas Company, the prince of darkness) power outages.. what is the thinkpad update connector that you refer to..?? MJC wrote: > Hi, I finally got my TP i 1450 yesterday, and now I have couple of > questions. I will use this machine as a desktop replacement, so most of the > time it will be on my desk, should I take the battery out and use the power > cord or should I leave the battery in (even if I will not use it, but just > in case I need a charge battery). > > Also I tried to use the TP update connector, but I got a message that it > could not get the information about my computer, is it because I just > registered or is this a problem I should contact IBM with. > > Anyway, happy to be onboard, thanks for your help. MJC. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 03:02:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA02303 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 03:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24672; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 03:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 03:00:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24577; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 03:00:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24555; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:59:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p29.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.92]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA05593; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 23:58:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811240758.XAA05593@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Edwin A Camin" , "Michael" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Mon, 23 Nov 98 19:10:52 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 1401 List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:28:29 -0500, Edwin A Camin wrote: >There was an IBM 1401 back in the 60's. Filled a room and had an enormous >10K memory. Cutting edge for the time. And there were two IBM 701's. One is in front of me in class, the other also filled a room. And there was a 360 (TP and mainframe). Anyone know about the 750? Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 08:50:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA04696 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12472; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:49:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:46:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12308; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:46:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.generics.co.uk (mailgate.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12293; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:46:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from scigen.co.uk (scigen) by mailgate.generics.co.uk (5.0/PIPEX simple 1.26) id AA11103; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:52:06 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk by scigen.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07730; Tue, 24 Nov 98 13:40:10 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:46:01 +0000 Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: [TPALL] SmartCELLect data cable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone use this between their Motorola handset and their=20= Thinkpad? If so which operating system do you use it under? Does it=20= work OK? What types of comms do you successfully use it for? - Adam ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 09:08:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA04862 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:08:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13135; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:58:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:58:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13006; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns2.eds.com (ns2.eds.com [199.228.142.78]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12987; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:58:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from nnsp.eds.com (nnsp2.eds.com [199.228.143.130]) by ns2.eds.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA23264 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:57:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from koedgw01.delcoelect.com (koedgw01.delcoelect.com [144.250.1.39]) by nnsp.eds.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA14266 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:57:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from uskokg01.delcoelect.com (uskokg01.delcoelect.com [144.250.84.28]) by koedgw01.delcoelect.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA26202 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:52:20 -0500 Received: by uskokg01.delcoelect.com(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 052566C6.004CDE61 ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:59:36 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: DELCO From: "Michael E Patrick" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <052566C6.004B3329.00@uskokg01.delcoelect.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:42:41 -0500 Subject: [TP1410i] Paranoid first time laptop owner... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Hi everyone - I went on the cheap and got one an i 1410 - I started thinking I'd go used, but the 1410 seemed like too good a deal... Anyway, I posted this to comp.sys.laptops with little success, so I'll try here: Why is this thing faster after I come out of suspend than when I have just booted it up? I spend most of my time in MS Word 97 (I don't have the rest of the Office junk loaded, and I've removed all of the OTHER Office junk from Startup) and it scrolls fairly slowly (cursor and such), but once I put it in suspend (even for a few seconds) and then bring it back, the thing is screaming fast. What changed with suspend? Here's the paranoid part: with a NiMh battery, do I have to worry about overcharging? Can I charge overnight and not worry about it? Also, the manual recommends draining the batter fully prior to recharging. If I move around from room to room and don't want to power off to do so, can I safely run off the battery for a minute or two and then go back to ac when I get to where I'm going? Or is that just making little damaging pecks at the battery that will eventually kill it? Sorry, but I've looked at a few FAQ and such and this is not covered very well... Thanks for your time, Mike Patrick mepatric@mail.delcoelect.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 11:26:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA06235 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:26:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21373; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:25:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:23:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21223; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:23:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21204; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA19295; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 06:23:25 -1000 Message-ID: <005a01be17cf$1e20fca0$46c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Michael E Patrick" , Subject: Re: [TP1410i] Paranoid first time laptop owner... Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:23:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >Anyway, I posted this to comp.sys.laptops with little success, so I'll try >here: Why is this thing faster after I come out of suspend than when I >have just booted it up? It has had a good nap and is ready to face a new day. Seriously, check your power management settings to see what is happening to your CPU speed - it might boot up in a low-power/low speed mode, then unsuspend to a faster mode. >Mike Patrick >mepatric@mail.delcoelect.com Geez, Mike, you work for Delco and are asking *us* about batteries?-) - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 12:23:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA06932 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22680; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:42:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:41:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22538; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:41:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns2.eds.com (ns2.eds.com [199.228.142.78]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22519; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:41:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from plmlir2.mail.eds.com (plmlir2a.mail.eds.com [199.228.143.131]) by ns2.eds.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27189 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:41:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from koedgw01.delcoelect.com (koedgw01.delcoelect.com [144.250.1.39]) by plmlir2.mail.eds.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA29416 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from uskokg01.delcoelect.com (uskokg01.delcoelect.com [144.250.84.28]) by koedgw01.delcoelect.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06576 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:35:39 -0500 Received: by uskokg01.delcoelect.com(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 052566C6.005BD234 ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:42:55 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: DELCO From: "Michael E Patrick" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <052566C6.005BCD78.00@uskokg01.delcoelect.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:43:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [TP1410i] Paranoid first time laptop owner... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: >>Anyway, I posted this to comp.sys.laptops with little success, >>so I'll try here: Why is this thing faster after I come out >>of suspend than when I have just booted it up? >It has had a good nap and is ready to face a new day. >Seriously, check your power management settings to >see what is happening to your CPU speed - it might >boot up in a low-power/low speed mode, then unsuspend >to a faster mode. I had that thought because I was good boy and read about APM at www.thinkpads.com, but nowhere in the 1410 manual does it mention CPU speed, and as far as I can tell, it's not presented via the bios interface either. Is it possible that since the i-series is a 'consumer' product that they have opted to have all of this controlled behind the scenes, not giving the user a choice at all? Heck, I'm willing to mess with it each time I use it for the additional speed, but it'd be nice to change it once and get it over with. Mike Patrick mepatric@mail.delcoelect.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 12:55:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA07352 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:55:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26604; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:39:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:38:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26403; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:38:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26354; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:38:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA08866 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:37:38 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:37:38 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP i 1450. First time laptop user, question about battery. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: All laptop batteries have a LIMITED number of recharge cycles. Keeping the battery in while on AC does "use up" the battery, because the ThinkPad will charge the battery, and it will drain a bit, then recharge. This happens a couple times a day. However, it does work as a great UPS and is wonderful for moving the machine around. If the machine will be in the same location for over a day, I, personally, would remove the battery. If you do this a lot, you'll be happy when the machine is three years old and the battery still works. Otherwise, batteries typically last about one year. Chris Schumann -- Included Message -- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:38:41 -0600 From: MJC To: ThinPad Mailing List Subject: TP i 1450. First time laptop user, question about battery. Hi, I finally got my TP i 1450 yesterday, and now I have couple of questions. I will use this machine as a desktop replacement, so most of the time it will be on my desk, should I take the battery out and use the power cord or should I leave the battery in (even if I will not use it, but just in case I need a charge battery). From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 13:21:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA07616 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:21:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29255; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:18:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:18:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29094; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:18:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29080; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (holygrail.brightware.com [206.156.118.198]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA11192; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:17:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <003601be17d6$b195d760$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Chris Schumann" , Subject: Re: TP i 1450. First time laptop user, question about battery. Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:16:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I'm completely with Bill Morrow on this. Leave the battery in and gain a UPS. Taking the battery out will only mean that you have wasted money on buying the battery in the first place. Three years from now, if you have left the battery in the cupboard, you will have a relatively fresh battery to sell to some other person along with the now obsolete ThinkPad. The little pecks that you refer to are handled by the charging hardware logic and are not going to even get as far as the charging circuits. If you work on battery for 30 minutes or so, the battery will start to recharge when you plug it in. David -----Original Message----- From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 9:39 AM Subject: Re: TP i 1450. First time laptop user, question about battery. >All laptop batteries have a LIMITED number of recharge cycles. Keeping the >battery in while on AC does "use up" the battery, because the ThinkPad >will charge the battery, and it will drain a bit, then recharge. This >happens a couple times a day. However, it does work as a great UPS and is >wonderful for moving the machine around. > >If the machine will be in the same location for over a day, I, personally, >would remove the battery. If you do this a lot, you'll be happy when the >machine is three years old and the battery still works. Otherwise, >batteries typically last about one year. > >Chris Schumann > >-- Included Message -- >Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:38:41 -0600 >From: MJC >To: ThinPad Mailing List >Subject: TP i 1450. First time laptop user, question about battery. > >Hi, I finally got my TP i 1450 yesterday, and now I have couple of >questions. I will use this machine as a desktop replacement, so most of >the time it will be on my desk, should I take the battery out and use the >power cord or should I leave the battery in (even if I will not use it, >but just in case I need a charge battery). > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 16:28:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA09804 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:28:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09324; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:29:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:26:41 -0500 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08865; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from moore@localhost) by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id PAA27654 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:26:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02015; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03361 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:04:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts_jl (rasgvnt0422.uhc.com [168.183.199.203]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03344 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:04:15 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981124135141.00b48710@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:51:41 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: TP i 1450. First time laptop user, question about battery. In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:37 AM 11/24/98 -0600, Chris Schumann wrote: >If the machine will be in the same location for over a day, I, personally, >would remove the battery. If you do this a lot, you'll be happy when the >machine is three years old and the battery still works. Otherwise, >batteries typically last about one year. > FWIW, I've had the battery in my TP760XL for about 18 months, and most of the time, the TP is either docked or running from an AC adapter with the battery installed. On the rare occasions that I run off the battery, I can't tell that there's any difference from when it was new. But I am religious about discharging and recharging the battery completely once a week. Prior to this machine, I had a TP755CE with a 2-year old battery - I followed the same regimen, and battery was fine when I handed it down. As with all things, YMMV. Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 17:58:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA10843 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:58:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19057; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:58:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:54:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18572; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:54:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from netdoor.com (root@netdoor.com [208.137.128.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18454; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:54:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from lsk560 (port09.stk.netdoor.com [208.137.149.73]) by netdoor.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA03950 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:54:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002301be17fe$5347d0a0$5d9589d0@lsk560> From: "SK560" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: [tp560] pcmcai modem can't work after suspend to disk Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:00:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: hi all.... i read about this issue some time ago and now it happens to me. is there any way that i can avoid taking out the modem and push it in after suspend to disk? win98 just can't initialize the modem after suspend. thanks. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 18:46:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA11334 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:46:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21630; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:45:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21499; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:45:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21479; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:45:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA21829; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:45:03 -1000 Message-ID: <002401be180c$cf554a20$88c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Michael E Patrick" , Subject: Re: [TP1410i] Paranoid first time laptop owner... Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:44:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >I had that thought because I was good boy and read about APM at >www.thinkpads.com, but nowhere in the 1410 manual does it mention CPU >speed, and as far as I can tell, it's not presented via the bios interface >either. Take a look at the "ThinkPad Features" program - unless they radically redesigned it for these machines (not impossible, if the rumors about it being a re-badged Acer are correct), it should have cpu speed options available under the 'custom' setting. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 19:14:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA11825 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23091; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:13:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22971; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from relic.rs.itd.umich.edu (relic.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22956; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:13:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm468-09.dialip.mich.net (pm468-09.dialip.mich.net [207.75.177.211]) by relic.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/2.5) with SMTP id TAA21599 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:12:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by pm468-09.dialip.mich.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BE17DE.4B85EFC0@pm468-09.dialip.mich.net>; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:11:53 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE17DE.4B85EFC0@pm468-09.dialip.mich.net> From: Michael Moreno To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Thinkpad i 1720 - strange noise Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:11:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I have a Thinkpad i 1720. As with any computer running Windows95/98, my computer occasionally = (actually, often for some reason) accesses the hard drive at times other = than when I open/save a file or run a program. What's odd about these disk access is that they are accompanied by a = strange metallic spring-like twang (for lack of a better word). At first, I thought this was a defect with the drive so I took that = computer back and got another one. This second 1720 has the same sound. Has anyone else heard this sound? =20 Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 21:00:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA13465 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27461; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:58:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27290; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:58:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from witch.xtra.co.nz (witch.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27274; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from amlaptop (p28-m11-ch7.dialup.xtra.co.nz [203.96.106.92]) by witch.xtra.co.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA09237 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:57:38 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <008c01be1816$8bdfce00$18b71bca@amlaptop> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: Subject: Re: Thinkpad i 1720 - strange noise Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:38:17 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >I have a Thinkpad i 1720. > >As with any computer running Windows95/98, my computer occasionally (actually, often for some reason) accesses the hard >drive at times other than when I open/save a file or run a program. > >What's odd about these disk access is that they are accompanied by a strange metallic spring-like twang (for lack of a better >word). > >At first, I thought this was a defect with the drive so I took that computer back and got another one. This second 1720 has the >same sound. > My guess would be that it is the sound of the drive heads coming out of their park position. Every drive sounds a little different with this sound. If you don't know, all modern drives, especially the portable ones, park the read/write heads of the hard drive off to the side of the disk platter when they are not used. This make it so they can handle a bump without the heads crashing into the drive's magnetic surface. When the drive is required to read/write data they pop out of there park position and do their work. With portable drives especially this park spot is pretty secure, so there is a sound as the head come out from it. If it's the same on two different drives and you aren't getting disk error I think it's fine. Later, Andreas!! ;-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 21:26:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA13777 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:26:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28860; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:26:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:25:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28744; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:25:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28697; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:25:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p09.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.72]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA10987; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:22:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811250222.SAA10987@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bill Morrow" Date: Tue, 24 Nov 98 18:24:36 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP i 1450. First time laptop user, question about battery. List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:48:42 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >leave the battery in.. >it won't damage it.. >and it will act as a built in UPS in case of power failure.. :-) > >i have two 701's that run all the time, and have been, for months, throgh many >florida flicker and flash... uhh florida power and light (this reminds me of >Joseph Lucas Company, the prince of darkness) power outages.. Which is nice on my TP750, because it functions for the time as the network print server (all the time unless I take it with me). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 21:27:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA13835 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29082; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:26:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28869; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:26:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28841; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:26:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA19344 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:26:12 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:26:12 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP i 1450. First time laptop user, question about battery. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Chris Schumann wrote: > All laptop batteries have a LIMITED number of recharge cycles. Keeping the > battery in while on AC does "use up" the battery, because the ThinkPad > will charge the battery, and it will drain a bit, then recharge. This > happens a couple times a day. However, it does work as a great UPS and is > wonderful for moving the machine around. This varies from computer to computer. My 750's NiMH would do the partial discharge/recharge bit two or three times a day. Its battery died after about 2-3 months of being continuously plugged in and on AC. The replacement battery I got died the same way. I was smart enough to remove the third battery (all replaced under warranty). My 701's NiMH stayed in the computer all the time. The manual mentioned something about the battery specifically being designed to not discharge "on the shelf" as other NiMH tend to do. It stayed plugged in and on AC almost continuously for 1.5 years (maybe 50 real use off-AC cycles during that time). When I sold it last month, it still lasted about 70% what it did when new. So try leaving the battery in for a couple days. If you notice it slowly discharging, and the charger frequently kicking in to top it off, then you probably want to take it out to save the cycles for real uses (topping it off counts as a full cycle of battery use). If it doesn't do that, or takes a week or so before it discharges enough to be topped off, then you can probably leave it in. > If the machine will be in the same location for over a day, I, personally, > would remove the battery. If you do this a lot, you'll be happy when the > machine is three years old and the battery still works. Otherwise, > batteries typically last about one year. On the other hand, I bought an extra battery with this in mind. When I sold the machine after 2.5 years of use, I had only used the spare battery about 5 times. (It wasn't *that* bad though since batteries tend to hold the value much better than your computer. I think I could've sold it for more than I bought it for since I got it during a fire sale.) -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 22:19:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA14809 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:19:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01449; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:17:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01345; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:17:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01325; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:17:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-223-056.usc.edu [128.125.223.56]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id TAA00572 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:17:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981124190829.009d33e0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:17:13 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Anyone Upgrade thei TP to Win 98? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi All, I have a TP 600 which came with Win 95 (OSR 2) loaded on it. I recently had the opportunity to load the Win 98 upgrade onto it... I followed all of IBM's instructions: Removed Win 95 IR patch v. 2, removed System Soft Cardwords (Real Mode PC Card Drivers), got this, got that, etc. But after 4 or even 5 attempts, *every* time I run the upgrade, right near the very end (I think after it re-boots once or twice, it then hangs...presumably it recovers when I reboot it, but somewhere in there it misses out on updating with my previous Windows Settings. For instance, it lacks all of the uninstall information for all the previous software packages I've installed, and upon inspection of the "Software" branch in the registry, I find that it also has not brought *any* of my installed software's registry settings over. In a nutshell, near the very end when its supposed to update or transfer all of the previous settings, it hangs and then never actually *does* so. Anyone have this same problem when they've upgraded? Found a solution? Right now my solution is to run the "Uninstall Win 98" option and go back to 95--everything comes back that way. But if it is at all doable, I'd like to upgrade... I *could* (and did) bring over the missing information I just described (into the registry), but since I don't know offhand what *else* I might be missing, I'd prefer not to do that. Thoughts? ------ Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something. - Plato From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 23:05:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA15463 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03427; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:04:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03325; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:04:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (f40.hotmail.com [207.82.250.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03308; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:04:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22514 invoked by uid 0); 25 Nov 1998 04:03:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19981125040340.22513.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 142.154.18.228 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:03:39 PST X-Originating-IP: [142.154.18.228] From: "A Ward" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPad 390 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:03:39 PST List-Unsubscribe: I'm looking to purchase a laptop and is seriously considering the new ThinkPad 390 (PII 266, 4.3GB HD, 64MB RAM, 14.1" TFT). Does anyone have any comments, advice or experiences with this model? Thanks in advance. Steve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 23:18:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA15660 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04155; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:17:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04025; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:17:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04001; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts_jl (user-38s0bl1.dialup.mindspring.com [209.192.46.161]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA29063 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:16:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981124225758.00a48860@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:57:58 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Anyone Upgrade thei TP to Win 98? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981124190829.009d33e0@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 07:17 PM 11/24/98 -0800, you wrote: > I have a TP 600 which came with Win 95 (OSR 2) loaded on it. I recently >had the opportunity to load the Win 98 upgrade onto it... > > In a nutshell, near the very end when its supposed to update or transfer >all of the previous settings, it hangs and then never actually *does* so. > > Anyone have this same problem when they've upgraded? Found a solution? > > > Thoughts? > Format C:? NT? My manager tried upgrading to 98 on her Dell several weeks ago - still doesn't have it working. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Nov 24 23:53:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16073 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:53:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05564; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:53:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:52:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05409; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05396; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA14661 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:51:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:51:54 -0500 (EST) From: Michael To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Got my 1720 today also .or. Yes "I" Can..!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Well UPS delivered my 1720 today from Durham. I gotta say I like it however right dead in the middle of the screen is this pair of pixels thats running wide open. Called ez-serv and they said it has to be 8 or more out of the box or 20 after some amount of time (30 days??). called IBM direct sales and they are shipping me another and rma'ing this one.. Yea!! OK now I like the feel of it, I thought that after using a 701 for the last 4 years or so I would not like the wide area below the keyboard but it's not that bad.. The keys have a nice feel to them. The screen is a good deal brighter the my tft 701. I like the layout of all the jacks and stuff EXCEPT the power jack.. My 701 has the jack on the side.. Great if you are using the unit on your lap or on the bed. This thing has it on the back of the unit. Easier to damage back there if you have to tilt it up while the power plug is in. Pcmcia card covers are spring loaded, nice. Also a rotary knob volume control by the card slots, easy to use. While on sound, can't seem to get much gain out of it. Not like the Sony 808 I played with about a month ago. As far as the size of the unit it's big, but then I've been using a 701 until now. Speed wise it real snappy (P2 266 64MB) but then again look what I have to compare it to. The 4.3 disk came partitioned with a primary 2.1 FAT16 (or so) and the rest as a extended 2.2 FAT32 partition. Well I blew out the 2nd partition and proceeded to load Redhat 5.2. It installed fine but no card services yet. Going to play with modules and see what I get. X seems to run fine (16bpp 1024x768) with the SVGA server. I think there is a new Neaomagic(sp) server. Will research that and the card services issue and get back to the list. O and mine does not seem to have the "clunking sound" that someone spoke about earlier.. Well back to playing!! Michael Cummings From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 25 01:18:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16908 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:18:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08981; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:18:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:17:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08847; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:17:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from vex.net (IDENT:root@vex.net [198.96.119.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08832; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (1791 bytes) by vex.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:17:12 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #4 built 1998-Nov-24) Received: from vex.net(198.96.119.193) via SMTP by vex.net, id smtpd15565a; Wed Nov 25 01:17:08 1998 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:17:07 -0500 (EST) From: Golan Klinger To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Anyone Upgrade thei TP to Win 98? In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19981124225758.00a48860@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Jane Loyless wrote: > Format C:? NT? I debated about installing NT on my TP560 (72mb/2gb) and decided that I would go with Windows 98 because I still run a few DOS applications and I wanted to see what it was like. It doesn't feel much different from Win95 (I was running OSR2) with IE4 but there are a few cosmetic changes. It's funny but omething feels different about it but I can't put my finger on what. I did spend some time fiddling to make it feel like home but now that everything is just so, I'm quite pleased. It took me a while to find TweakUI (Microsoft is now shipping TweakUI with Windows) and Plus98 didn't change my desktop icons so I had to dig around to find the prettier ones. Hardly serious complains. I was worried about speed (I only have a 133MHz CPU) but I don't find things to be slow. My memory footprint increased a bit but that hasn't proven to be an issue. All in all, this could have been a lot worse. I'm pleased. Golan Klinger [falco@vex.net] For long you live and high you fly And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry Good, fast or cheap. And all you touch and all you see Pick two... Is all your life will ever be From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 25 02:13:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA17571 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 02:13:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10617; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 02:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 02:12:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10522; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 02:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10507; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 02:12:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (mg132-049.ricochet.net [204.179.132.49]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA02155; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:12:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001801be1842$e40518c0$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" , "Jane Loyless" Subject: Re: Anyone Upgrade thei TP to Win 98? Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:11:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >At 07:17 PM 11/24/98 -0800, you wrote: > >> I have a TP 600 which came with Win 95 (OSR 2) loaded on it. I recently >>had the opportunity to load the Win 98 upgrade onto it... >> > > > >> In a nutshell, near the very end when its supposed to update or transfer >>all of the previous settings, it hangs and then never actually *does* so. >> >> Anyone have this same problem when they've upgraded? Found a solution? >> > > > >> >> Thoughts? >> > >Format C:? NT? > >My manager tried upgrading to 98 on her Dell several weeks ago - still >doesn't have it working. I agree with Jane. Move to Windows NT 4.0 and update to at least SP3. NT is much better for almost all uses except games and DVD video. Win 98 is not worth the upgrade. David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 25 04:18:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA18646 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 04:18:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15670; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 04:18:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 04:17:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15540; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 04:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (smtp.thegrid.net [209.162.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15527; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 04:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24627 invoked from network); 25 Nov 1998 09:16:54 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 1998 09:16:54 -0000 Received: from tp-770e (oak-ts2-h1-49-174.ispmodems.net [209.162.49.174]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA09005 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:16:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000a01be1854$385708a0$ae31a2d1@tp-770e> From: "AS" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: Re: Anyone Upgrade thei TP to Win 98? Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:16:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have installed W98 clean. I reformated the hard drive and made 1 FAT32 partition, so that I have only one hard drive C: of 5.1Gig. (4.8gig actually). Then installed W98. Make sure to have all disks with newest drivers (some are specially made for W98). Then the setup is a snap. I did thAT WITH MY 770e. Let me know if you have any questions. Alex -----Original Message----- From: David W. Taylor To: ThinkPad Mailing List ; Jane Loyless Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 11:14 PM Subject: Re: Anyone Upgrade thei TP to Win 98? >>At 07:17 PM 11/24/98 -0800, you wrote: >> >>> I have a TP 600 which came with Win 95 (OSR 2) loaded on it. I recently >>>had the opportunity to load the Win 98 upgrade onto it... >>> >> >> >> >>> In a nutshell, near the very end when its supposed to update or transfer >>>all of the previous settings, it hangs and then never actually *does* so. >>> >>> Anyone have this same problem when they've upgraded? Found a solution? >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >> >>Format C:? NT? >> >>My manager tried upgrading to 98 on her Dell several weeks ago - still >>doesn't have it working. > >I agree with Jane. Move to Windows NT 4.0 and update to at least SP3. NT >is much better for almost all uses except games and DVD video. Win 98 is >not worth the upgrade. > >David > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 25 11:41:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA23084 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:41:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08666; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:41:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:36:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08171; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:36:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hil-img-4.compuserve.com (hil-img-4.compuserve.com [149.174.177.134]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08084; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:35:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by hil-img-4.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.16) id LAA23878; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:34:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:34:22 -0500 From: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL Subject: Re: Got my 1720 today also .or. Yes "I" Sender: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL To: Michael , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Message-ID: <199811251134_MC2-617C-C8DF@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Michael, Lucky man! Do you feel penalized by the weight increase from the TP701C's 4lbs 12oz (as is -- no CD or floppy included) to the nearly 7lbs of the "i" series?= I love my TP701C but I'd love to have even the 12.1 inch screen of the 14= 10 and the CDROM inside. Hugh Wyn Griffith Seminole, FL, USA Using Virtual Access OLR on Win98 = From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 25 13:15:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA24291 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13693; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:14:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:03:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13105; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:03:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13086; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:03:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA16810; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:03:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:03:30 -0500 (EST) From: Michael To: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Got my 1720 today also .or. Yes "I" In-Reply-To: <199811251134_MC2-617C-C8DF@compuserve.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, Hugh Wyn Griffith FL wrote: > Do you feel penalized by the weight increase from the TP701C's 4lbs 12oz > (as is -- no CD or floppy included) to the nearly 7lbs of the "i" series? No doubt is is heavy.. But no more so than the 770's. I thought about a 600E but it was much more cost & having used a 701 for so long I wanted something with both cd & floppy always installed.. In my 2 days of playing with it I don't find the weight to be that much of a problem for me.. But then I have not had to run thru a airport yet with it.. > > I love my TP701C but I'd love to have even the 12.1 inch screen of the 1410 > and the CDROM inside. O my 701 still has a home in my heart.. On trips that I only need communications or just something to take notes then it's what I'll take I found myself needing the cd on longer trips sometimes and of course I left it at home ): . Michael From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Nov 25 22:43:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02564 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:43:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06473; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:43:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:41:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06323; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:41:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from rhino.accessweb.com (rhino.accessweb.com [207.34.119.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06311; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:41:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from bordercity.com (unverified [207.34.111.44]) by rhino.accessweb.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:38:34 -0700 Message-ID: <365CCDC9.737D2CD5@bordercity.com> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:40:57 -0700 From: bak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Hard Drive Adapter? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Just got a 5.1 GB IBM for my 760EL. It came bare, without the adapter case required to install in TP. Does anyone know where to buy the adapters, and what the cost is. If anyone has a used or extra one kicking around, please email me. Thanks, Bruce From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 26 09:18:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA07017 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:18:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28726; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:17:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:16:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28598; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.mv.net (root@mercury.mv.net [199.125.85.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28585; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:16:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from summit.msc.com (meisner.mv.com [207.22.43.6]) by mercury.mv.net (8.8.8/mem-971025) with SMTP id JAA05526 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:14:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.msc.com by summit.msc.com (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id ya001844 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:15:22 -0500 From: "Steve Meisner" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: SofTex NT drivers Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:15:22 -0500 Message-ID: <000501be1947$343036e0$3200a8c0@homer.msc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone have any experience with the set of drivers from Softex, Inc. to control power management, hot/warm docking and PC card insertion/removal under Windows NT? One of the software mail order houses (The Programmer's Supershop) has the 3 products for about $150. I'd gladly pay that to be able to hot dock and insert PC cards without rebooting on my TP760ED running NT! But I've seen any reference to these products before. Any info?? Thanks, Steve From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 26 11:06:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07603 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01617; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:00:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01510; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01498; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:00:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from wabio (user-38ld25d.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.136.173]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA23415 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 07:59:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981126104732.00a24af0@mail.newsguy.com> X-Sender: wicket@mail.newsguy.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:59:48 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Alan Wong Subject: Network/Modem PCMCIA card recommendations for TP600 In-Reply-To: <199811150948.BAA26907@netcom17.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello All- I'm in the market for a PCMCIA network card and modem card. I was initially going to purchase the 3Com combo card (3CCFEM556B) but I received many replies that this card is *VERY* hard to get this working. I confirmed this myself by borrowing that same card from my friend. I tried under Win98 various times with no luck. I'm currently considering purchasing either one of these combinations:: Xircom Cardbus 10/100 + 56k combo card OR 3Com Megahertz 10/100 Cardbus Lan Card (3CXFE575BT) 3Com Megahertz 56K Global Modem Card (3CCM156B) Would anybody have any experience with these cards or know if they will work with my TP 600. Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving, Alan BTW, what's the deal with Cardbus cards anyway. Are *that* many cards unconfigurable or it's like USB devices...it has some kinks it needs to be worked out. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 26 12:08:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA08117 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03224; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:07:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03093; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:07:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03081; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:06:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from c137355-a ([24.2.197.152]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.0 201-221) with SMTP id <19981126170655.PNB9189.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@c137355-a> for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:06:55 -0800 From: "Scott A. Stratmoen" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: Best place to sell Thinkpad option? Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:07:00 -0600 Message-ID: <000401be195f$2ebbce00$0101a8c0@c137355-a.mntp1.il.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Where is the best place to post an add for a Thinkpad option. I have a new 24x 770 cdrom drive which I can't use (I have a DVD.) I the past I have posted to the misc.comp.* groups with little success. Do people use auction pages now? Scott From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 26 12:53:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA08532 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:53:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04883; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:52:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:52:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04743; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm04sm.pmm.cw.net (pm04sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.153]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04730; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:51:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from cwix.com (usr24-dialup21.mix1.WillowSprings.cw.net [166.55.40.213]) by PM04SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33508) with ESMTP id <0F3100BAHIXIR7@PM04SM.PMM.CW.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 17:51:26 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:51:27 -0600 From: Jim Schneider Subject: Re: Hard Drive Adapter? To: bak Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Message-id: <365D951F.80A4D93C@cwix.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <365CCDC9.737D2CD5@bordercity.com> List-Unsubscribe: Get the drive shell from Bill Morrow at http://thinkpads.com, I think the 760 version is about 75$ + shipping. I got a 770 drive shell myself, and am thinking of another. Email him at bill@thinkpads.com or morrow@treco.net bak wrote: > Just got a 5.1 GB IBM for my 760EL. It came bare, without the adapter case > required to install in TP. Does anyone know where to buy the adapters, and what > the cost is. If anyone has a used or extra one kicking around, please email me. > > Thanks, > > Bruce From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 26 12:57:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA08570 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05191; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:57:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05102; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:57:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from dewdrop2.mindspring.com (dewdrop2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05090; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:56:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from expwncog (user-37kbmqj.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.219.83]) by dewdrop2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA12614; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:56:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811261756.MAA12614@dewdrop2.mindspring.com> X-Sender: rchalk@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:56:53 -0500 To: "Scott A. Stratmoen" , "Thinkpad Mailing List" From: Richard Chalk Subject: Re: Best place to sell Thinkpad option? In-Reply-To: <000401be195f$2ebbce00$0101a8c0@c137355-a.mntp1.il.home.com > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Try Misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.portables Regards, Richard At 11:07 AM 11/26/98 -0600, Scott A. Stratmoen wrote: >Where is the best place to post an add for a Thinkpad option. I have a new >24x 770 cdrom drive which I can't use (I have a DVD.) > >I the past I have posted to the misc.comp.* groups with little success. Do >people use auction pages now? > >Scott > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 26 13:32:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08821 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06388; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:30:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06251; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06239; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:30:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (mg132-109.ricochet.net [204.179.132.109]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA04302 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:30:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <012f01be196a$d5798010$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: ThinkPad 600 and new Windows 2000 drivers? Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:30:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Some new TP 600/770 series driver files just appeared on http://www.pc.ibm.com/support They are labeled Windows 2000 beta and seem to be a new pair of ThinkPad Utility diskettes and some modem support. There are also a couple of "Hints and Tips" articles about installing Windows 2000 Beta on your ThinkPad. My question is "Will these drivers work with Windows NT 5 Beta 2 or are they for an as-yet-unreleased Beta 3 of W2000?" I've just bought a second hard drive from Bill Morrow, so that I can try this exact thing. David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 26 13:35:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08846 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06690; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:35:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:34:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06567; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:34:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hil-img-2.compuserve.com (hil-img-2.compuserve.com [149.174.177.132]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06555; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:34:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hil-img-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.16) id NAA01808; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:33:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:33:22 -0500 From: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL Subject: Re: Hard Drive Adapter? Sender: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL To: bak , ThinkPad Mailing List Message-ID: <199811261333_MC2-61A3-66C4@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Bak, Check Bill Morrow at http://www.thinkpads.com Hugh Wyn Griffith Seminole, FL, USA Using Virtual Access OLR on Win98 = From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 26 16:09:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA10078 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:08:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10165; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:08:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:07:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10059; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10046; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from leland.stanford.edu (Banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.64.168.119]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8/L) with ESMTP id NAA29508; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:07:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <365DC319.F540A3F1@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:07:37 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Wong CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Network/Modem PCMCIA card recommendations for TP600 References: <4.1.19981126104732.00a24af0@mail.newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have the 3CCFE575BT which is the cabled version of the 3CXFE575BT. For the one week I had Win98 installed, it worked fine in my 560X. Benjamin Alan Wong wrote: > Hello All- > > I'm in the market for a PCMCIA network card and modem card. I was initially > going to purchase the > 3Com combo card (3CCFEM556B) but I received many replies that this card is > *VERY* hard to get this > working. I confirmed this myself by borrowing that same card from my > friend. I tried under Win98 various times > with no luck. > > I'm currently considering purchasing either one of these combinations:: > > Xircom Cardbus 10/100 + 56k combo card > > OR > > 3Com Megahertz 10/100 Cardbus Lan Card (3CXFE575BT) > 3Com Megahertz 56K Global Modem Card (3CCM156B) > > Would anybody have any experience with these cards or know if they will > work with my TP 600. > > Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving, > Alan > > BTW, what's the deal with Cardbus cards anyway. Are *that* many cards > unconfigurable or it's like USB devices...it has some kinks it needs to be > worked out. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 26 16:21:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA10170 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:21:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10680; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:20:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10565; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10551; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:20:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from leland.stanford.edu (Banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.64.168.119]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8/L) with ESMTP id NAA29788 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:20:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <365DC62A.74ADB8D7@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:20:42 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Panasonic CD-ROM & Registration software References: <022a01be1512$8a017ae0$77a840ab@banquo> <36590C80.61157527@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Thanks Bill! I didn't realize the .IMZ files were in fact .ZIP files. Well over the last 2 days I've rebuilt my 560X's configuration. Simple really... just time-consuming. 1. Copied my DOS CD-ROM drivers to the startup disk. 2. Deleted everything on C:. DELTREE * worked. 3. Executed SYS C: to transfer system files. 4. Reboot from the startup disk. 5. Used PKZIP 2.04g -d to extract all the .IMZ files to C: 6. Reboot. Win95 comes up thinking you just installed it. 7. Everything is restored to the factory default. Smartsuite, TranXit etc are back too. Hope this helps whoever's trying to restore their Thinkpad without the "official" CD-ROM drives... P.S. I called EZ-serve, and the guy said I can't register by phone. The easiest way according to him is to simply fax the sales invoice to (919)-248-3570... that's all. "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" wrote: > > Benjamin.. > the recovery "image" is a zip file.. > you should be able to open it and extract the registration software.. > > BUT.. > > all you really need to do is call the IBM help line 800-772-2227 and > register it with one of the tech support people.. > > Benjamin Koh wrote: > > > > OK, this is rather silly, but does anyone know where I can get the software > > to register my 560X? A URL or an email with the file attached would be > > appreciated. > > > > I hadn't gotten around to registering my 560X when it crashed and I > > reinstalled Windows. Problem is, the registration software is on the > > recovery CD, and I can't use it because my CD-ROM (Panasonic KXL-810A) isn't > > supported by the recovery disk. I installed Windows 98 instead, then > > downloaded all the updates. Works fine, except Win98 takes forever to come > > out of standby - MS "redesigned" it that way. > > > > Benjamin > > -- > Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 260meg), > 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), > 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), > 701C(6.4gig, 40meg), > 755CE(no gig, 40meg), > 750C(no gig, 4meg), > IBM WorkPad(1meg) > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > vary, Done on a > closed road with a professional driver, Do not try this at home, Don't > spit into the wind AND, > GoodNIGHT, Mrs. Calabash, whereEVER you are... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 26 18:13:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA10965 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:13:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12665; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:11:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12540; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12526; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg136-033.ricochet.net [204.179.136.33]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA12514; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 17:11:34 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "bak" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: RE: Hard Drive Adapter? Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 15:11:33 -0800 Message-ID: <001501be1992$1bbb4550$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <365CCDC9.737D2CD5@bordercity.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > From: bak [mailto:bknight@bordercity.com] > Subject: Re: Hard Drive Adapter? > > Just got a 5.1 GB IBM for my 760EL. It came bare, without the > adapter case > required to install in TP. Does anyone know where to buy the > adapters, and what > the cost is. If anyone has a used or extra one kicking around, > please email me. Bill Morrow at www.thinkpads.com usually has them, but he's been out lately. If he doesn't have any, www.megahaus.com has them. Be sure to get the 17mm shell, not the 12mm shell--they have both. You have the "thick" 760EL with the 12.1" TFT display, is that right? The "thin" 760's might not take a 17mm drive (I'm not sure). -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 26 20:06:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA11794 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:06:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14731; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:05:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14567; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:05:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcom8.netcom.com (phr@netcom8.netcom.com [192.100.81.117]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14553; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:05:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom8.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id RAA09999 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 17:05:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 17:05:05 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199811270105.RAA09999@netcom8.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: Best place to sell Thinkpad option? List-Unsubscribe: Try misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.portables. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Nov 26 23:53:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA13310 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:53:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18174; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:53:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:51:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18056; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:51:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18044; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:51:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (dgoldman.vip.best.com [204.156.137.147]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with SMTP id UAA23723; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:50:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981126204751.00bd6b10@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:50:27 -0800 To: Alan Wong From: David Goldman Subject: Re: Network/Modem PCMCIA card recommendations for TP600 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981126104732.00a24af0@mail.newsguy.com> References: <199811150948.BAA26907@netcom17.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:59 AM 11/26/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hello All- > >I'm currently considering purchasing either one of these >combinations:: > >Xircom Cardbus 10/100 + 56k combo card > >OR > > >3Com Megahertz 10/100 Cardbus Lan Card (3CXFE575BT) >3Com Megahertz 56K Global Modem Card (3CCM156B) > >Would anybody have any experience with these cards or know if they >will work with my TP 600. I use the Xircom 10/100 + 56k combo card in my TP 380Z. It works wonderfully under NT, except for the inability to hibernate with the card inserted. I'm willing to live with this limitation. YMMV. Write me back directly if you have specific questions. -- David Goldman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 27 02:40:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA14311 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 02:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21431; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 02:40:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 02:39:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21302; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 02:39:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21289; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 02:39:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p36.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.99]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA14475; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:38:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811270738.XAA14475@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "David W. Taylor" , "Randal Whittle" , "TP List" Date: Thu, 26 Nov 98 23:36:31 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 6 GB drive noise? List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:31:32 -0800, David W. Taylor wrote: >I just did the exact same thing via the inestimable Bill Morrow of our very >own list. > >The drive is definitely louder but I guess I can live with it. > Aren't most of the newer drives quieter? The 1.4GB in this machine is MUCH quieter than the original 720MB, and even more quieter for the 2.1GB in my 750 (used as a file/print server, and occasional school use). Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 27 11:53:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA16493 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:53:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10561; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:52:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:51:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10450; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:51:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (root@tdl.tdl.com [204.182.16.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10431; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from chuck (tdl-dyn202.tdl.com [205.162.12.202]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA03296 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 08:51:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199811271651.IAA03296@tdl.tdl.com> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 08:51:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Adapter Equivalence TP701/380?? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT List-Unsubscribe: I have a 701C whose adapter puts out 16volts, 1.88 amps. I have a 380ED whose adapter puts out 16volts, 2.2 amps. Polarity is the same. Question: Can the 701 adapter safely be used with the 380ED? Ramifications? Thanks. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 27 14:34:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA17368 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:34:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14109; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:34:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:33:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13996; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:32:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13982; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from wabio ([209.86.137.97]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA12145; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:31:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981127135516.00a2b350@mail.newsguy.com> X-Sender: wicket@mail.newsguy.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:14:45 -0500 To: Paul Rubin , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Alan Wong Subject: Sending Laptop in to EZ-Serve...any tips? In-Reply-To: <199811150948.BAA26907@netcom17.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello All-- My 2.5 week old TP 600 needs to be serviced at EZ-Serve. The unit wouldn't charge even with just the AC plugged in. It was determined that the circuit board that provides electricity from the AC to the batteries and the computer itself was damaged. Has anyone experienced this problem before. Any tips on how I should send my unit back? The way I'm planning to send it is without my hard drive, CD-Rom and AC adapter. Should the battery be sent along with the unit also? Any tips or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Warm regards, Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 27 15:52:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA17934 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 15:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16008; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 15:52:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 15:51:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15912; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 15:51:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de [160.45.2.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15900; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 15:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de (160.45.2.6) with smtp id ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:51:38 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:51:34 +0100 (MET) From: Christoph Eyrich X-Sender: eyrich@komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de To: Alan Wong cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Sending Laptop in to EZ-Serve...any tips? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981127135516.00a2b350@mail.newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 27 Nov 1998, Alan Wong wrote: > Any tips on how I should send my unit back? > The way I'm planning to send it is without my hard drive, > CD-Rom and AC adapter. Should the battery be sent along > with the unit also? Yes - in case there is a problem with the battery as well. You don't mention the RAM: If you have done a memory upgrade, I'd remove the modules as well! Good luck Christoph Eyrich -- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 27 17:09:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA18377 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:09:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17598; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:09:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:07:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17456; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:07:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17444; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts_jl ([12.77.31.182]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981127220647.PEX8492@dts_jl> for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:06:47 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981127165358.00b2a100@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:53:58 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Sending Laptop in to EZ-Serve...any tips? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981127135516.00a2b350@mail.newsguy.com> References: <199811150948.BAA26907@netcom17.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 02:14 PM 11/27/98 -0500, you wrote: >My 2.5 week old TP 600 needs to be serviced at EZ-Serve. >The unit wouldn't charge even with just the AC plugged in. >It was determined that the circuit board that provides electricity from >the AC to the batteries and the computer itself was damaged. > >Has anyone experienced this problem before. > >Any tips on how I should send my unit back? >The way I'm planning to send it is without my hard drive, >CD-Rom and AC adapter. Should the battery be sent along >with the unit also? > I assume your question about how to send the unit back only refers to what you should send back and not how to pack and ship it since EZ-Serve should be sending you a box and FedEx pre-paid form. Definitely only send pieces that might be part of the problem, so I'd remove any additional memory and pc cards if any. Since it's an electrical problem, I'd send the battery and possibly the AC adapter as well. Hope this helps! Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 27 18:46:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA19001 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:46:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19479; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:44:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19368; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19355; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:44:13 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail.theriver.com (a36.pm3-29.theriver.com [206.102.195.100]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27803; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:44:06 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199811272344.QAA27803@pantano.theriver.com> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 98 16:44:06 -0700 To: Alan Wong , Paul Rubin , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981127135516.00a2b350@mail.newsguy.com> Subject: Re: Sending Laptop in to EZ-Serve...any tips? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.40 List-Unsubscribe: In <4.1.19981127135516.00a2b350@mail.newsguy.com>, on 11/27/98 at 02:14 PM, Alan Wong said: >Hello All-- >My 2.5 week old TP 600 needs to be serviced at EZ-Serve. The unit >wouldn't charge even with just the AC plugged in. It was determined >that the circuit board that provides electricity from the AC to the >batteries and the computer itself was damaged. >Has anyone experienced this problem before. >Any tips on how I should send my unit back? REMOVE ANY NON-IBM COMPONENT (for example: PC-CARDS) and backup your hard drive just in case anything goes wrong. >The way I'm planning to send it is without my hard drive, CD-Rom and >AC adapter. Should the battery be sent along >with the unit also? Send in: UNIT, BATTERY and AC ADAPTER. The problem might be larger than they think. Remove your hard drive and CD-ROM (use the blank adapter that came with your system). Send in any other IBM batteries, do not send in any non-IBM batteries. >Any tips or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Get the tracking number when FedEx picks up your unit and call EZ-Serve with it. They will notify you when the unit arrives and when it ships (I did this with a "broken" refurbished unit, got a new keyboard out of IBM). James -- -------------------------------------------- James Mckenzie, Team OS/2, Team Lora Still supporting OS/2 from version 2.0 NEW ADDRESS: os2support@theriver.com New rates for unsolicited e-mails: Any unsolicited e-mails will be charged $3000/KB, $5000 min. -------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 27 18:59:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA19088 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:59:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20020; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:59:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:58:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19902; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19890; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:58:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts_jl (user-38s05pf.dialup.mindspring.com [209.192.23.47]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA10315 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:58:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981127184537.00b50100@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:45:37 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Sending Laptop in to EZ-Serve...any tips? In-Reply-To: <199811272344.QAA27803@pantano.theriver.com> References: <4.1.19981127135516.00a2b350@mail.newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 04:44 PM 11/27/98 -0700, os2support@theriver.com wrote: >Get the tracking number when FedEx picks up your unit and call >EZ-Serve with it. They will notify you when the unit arrives and when >it ships (I did this with a "broken" refurbished unit, got a new >keyboard out of IBM). > http://www.fedex.com/us/tracking/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 27 19:57:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA19854 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21076; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:57:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:55:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20951; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hil-img-7.compuserve.com (hil-img-7.compuserve.com [149.174.177.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20939; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:55:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by hil-img-7.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.16) id TAA14816; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:55:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:54:18 -0500 From: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL Subject: Re: Sending Laptop in to EZ-Serve...any Sender: Hugh Wyn Griffith FL To: Alan Wong , Paul Rubin , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Message-ID: <199811271954_MC2-61BC-A29C@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Alan, My experience was that they told me what to do -- I remember them tellin= g me to remove the HDD; I think they told me to remove the battery but my problem was sticky keyboard and a broken port cover. I would ask them what they want in your case. Hugh Wyn Griffith Seminole, FL, USA Using Virtual Access OLR on Win98 = From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 27 20:58:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA20368 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22397; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:58:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:55:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22273; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:55:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.capecod.net (mailhost.capecod.net [204.255.214.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22261; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:55:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from capecod.net (camb0151.capecod.net [209.244.244.151]) by mailhost.capecod.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA02014 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:55:50 -0500 Message-ID: <365F56D6.5984D876@capecod.net> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:50:14 -0500 From: rdietric Reply-To: bigdaddy@ieee.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Subject: address book Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I know this is not just a TP question but I didn't know any other way to find out. Does anyone know the file name of the Internet Explorer address book. One of my senior citizen students wants to know how to back it up and I have been unable to find it looking in the obvious places. Thanks in advance Bob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Nov 27 22:34:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA21059 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:34:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24137; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:32:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24042; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24029; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:32:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (mg134-191.ricochet.net [204.179.134.191]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA10952; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:32:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00b901be1a7f$b044f2f0$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: , "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: address book Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:32:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Under NT 4 look for a .WAB file under C:\WINNT\Profiles\taylor\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book\taylor.wab. (My profile is taylor and my address book is taylor.wab). Under Win95/98 grope around until you file some kind of .WAB file. Good luck! David >I know this is not just a TP question but I didn't know any other way to >find out. Does anyone know the file name of the Internet Explorer >address book. One of my senior citizen students wants to know how to >back it up and I have been unable to find it looking in the obvious >places. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 28 01:07:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA21760 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27481; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:07:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:05:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27375; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27362; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (2.p1.Ascend18.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.174.130]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA19254; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:05:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <365F92F8.F76F42D0@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:06:48 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Scott A. Stratmoen" CC: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: Best place to sell Thinkpad option? References: <000401be195f$2ebbce00$0101a8c0@c137355-a.mntp1.il.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Scott.. i have a for sale section on http://thinkpads.com in the open forum section.. Scott A. Stratmoen wrote: > Where is the best place to post an add for a Thinkpad option. I have a new > 24x 770 cdrom drive which I can't use (I have a DVD.) > > I the past I have posted to the misc.comp.* groups with little success. Do > people use auction pages now? > > Scott -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 28 01:13:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA21787 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:13:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27825; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:13:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27735; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27723; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (2.p1.Ascend18.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.174.130]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA20338; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:13:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <365F94CE.B4BCD8EB@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:14:38 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David W. Taylor" CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600 and new Windows 2000 drivers? References: <012f01be196a$d5798010$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: David.. The evil empire is sending out thousands of CD's with a beta of office 2000 and win 2000, so this might be what these drivers and utility diskettes are for.. David W. Taylor wrote: > Some new TP 600/770 series driver files just appeared on > http://www.pc.ibm.com/support > > They are labeled Windows 2000 beta and seem to be a new pair of ThinkPad > Utility diskettes and some modem support. There are also a couple of "Hints > and Tips" articles about installing Windows 2000 Beta on your ThinkPad. > > My question is "Will these drivers work with Windows NT 5 Beta 2 or are they > for an as-yet-unreleased Beta 3 of W2000?" I've just bought a second hard > drive from Bill Morrow, so that I can try this exact thing. > > David -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 28 01:17:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA21818 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:17:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28151; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:17:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:17:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28066; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28054; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (2.p1.Ascend18.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.174.130]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA20931; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:16:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <365F95B8.79E81CB4@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:18:32 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Geary CC: bak , ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Hard Drive Adapter? References: <001501be1992$1bbb4550$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: what michael means is that i've been out.. of it..!! :-) Michael Geary wrote: > > From: bak [mailto:bknight@bordercity.com] > > Subject: Re: Hard Drive Adapter? > > > > Just got a 5.1 GB IBM for my 760EL. It came bare, without the > > adapter case > > required to install in TP. Does anyone know where to buy the > > adapters, and what > > the cost is. If anyone has a used or extra one kicking around, > > please email me. > > Bill Morrow at www.thinkpads.com usually has them, but he's been out lately. > If he doesn't have any, www.megahaus.com has them. Be sure to get the 17mm > shell, not the 12mm shell--they have both. > > You have the "thick" 760EL with the 12.1" TFT display, is that right? The > "thin" 760's might not take a 17mm drive (I'm not sure). > > -Mike -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 28 01:22:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA21849 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:22:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28535; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:22:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:21:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28406; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:21:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28394; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (2.p1.Ascend18.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.174.130]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA21559; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:21:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <365F96BC.705AA265@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:22:52 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: "David W. Taylor" , Randal Whittle , TP List Subject: Re: 6 GB drive noise? References: <199811270738.XAA14475@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: when the 5.1gig drive arrived, i had some complaints that it sounded like it was 'gurgling'.. i just stuck one of those 6.4gig HDD's in a 760ED and it is DEAD SILENT while running, but there is nothing on it so i can't easily check for seek noise.. (later i'll run disk test in ez setup and listen.. if anyone is not happy i sure can exchange the drive.. :-) Paul Khoury wrote: > On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:31:32 -0800, David W. Taylor wrote: > > >I just did the exact same thing via the inestimable Bill Morrow of our very > >own list. > > > >The drive is definitely louder but I guess I can live with it. > > > Aren't most of the newer drives quieter? The 1.4GB in this machine is MUCH quieter than the > original 720MB, and even more quieter for the 2.1GB in my 750 (used as a file/print server, and occasional > school use). > > Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html > Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, > Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 28 01:26:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA21877 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:26:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28971; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:26:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:26:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28847; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:26:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28833; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:26:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (2.p1.Ascend18.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.174.130]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA22260; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:26:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <365F97DB.6BC9A27@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:27:39 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Blaisdell CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Adapter Equivalence TP701/380?? References: <199811271651.IAA03296@tdl.tdl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: YES.. i have used a 701 adapter on a 770 and vise-versa.. also a 560 adapter on both 770 and 701.. it all winds up in the time to recharge.. more amps = more watts = faster recharge.. more amps will also = less voltage drop.. if there is any negative effect, it would sure be a long term thing.. Chuck Blaisdell wrote: > I have a 701C whose adapter puts out 16volts, 1.88 amps. > I have a 380ED whose adapter puts out 16volts, 2.2 amps. > Polarity is the same. > > Question: Can the 701 adapter safely be used with the 380ED? > Ramifications? > > Thanks. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 28 01:29:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA21892 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:29:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29321; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:29:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29211; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:29:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29197; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:28:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg136-033.ricochet.net [204.179.136.33]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA16940; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:28:39 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Bill Morrow" Cc: "bak" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: RE: Hard Drive Adapter? Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:28:38 -0800 Message-ID: <000001be1a98$5574c620$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <365F95B8.79E81CB4@icanect.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] > Subject: Re: Hard Drive Adapter? > > what michael means is that i've been out.. of it..!! :-) Aw, Bill, I'd never say you were out of it, when you say it so well! What I meant, of course, was that you were out of *them*. The 760 hard drive shells, that is. Good night for now... -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 28 01:39:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA21921 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:39:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29733; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:39:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:38:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29638; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:38:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29626; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:38:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA01084; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:38:43 -1000 Message-ID: <001d01be1aa2$1ae08b20$58be6420@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" , "Jane Loyless" Subject: Re: Sending Laptop in to EZ-Serve...any tips? Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:38:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >>Get the tracking number when FedEx picks up your unit and call > >http://www.fedex.com/us/tracking/ And remember that the tracking information on the fedex web site is just an approximation, sometimes off by as much as 48 hours, in my experience. (AFAIK, always in the *conservative* direction, i.e. lagging the actual arrival status.) - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Nov 28 12:49:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA24748 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16651; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:49:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:47:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16556; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16542; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:47:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from tnote (1Cust63.tnt3.dfw5.da.uu.net [153.36.194.63]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA07027 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by tnote with Microsoft Mail id <01BE1ABB.BE82C400@tnote>; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:42:07 -0700 Message-ID: <01BE1ABB.BE82C400@tnote> From: Teresa Selling To: "'ThinkPad List'" Subject: Forsale: USED Thinkpad 770 $1400 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:42:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: PLEASE READ ENTIRE AD BEFORE RESPONDING. I have a USED Thinkpad 770 model 9547-40U with balance of 3 year warranty left (Dec 2000). I have not noticed any stuck on pixels with this unit. Intel 200Mhz MMX CPU 13.3" Active Matrix screen (1024x768 resolution) 3 gig HD 32 MB memory Will come with original preloaded software. Comes with battery, removable floppy drive, AC-Adapter and manuals. If its not listed, machine doesn't come with it, so ask if any questions. This machine was my personal machine and is in excellent shape, selling because I just purchased a Thinkpad 770E model. The following options are available for price listed (with sale of Thinkpad only, not selling options separately so please don't ask). 5 gig to replace 3 gig ($100 upgrade). Note that the 3 gig is covered under the thinkpad warranty, the 5 gig is not (was purchased as bare drive and put in oem 770 hd caddy). You get one drive, not both. MPEG2/DVD card $150 DVD Drive $200 (2) 64MB so-dimms $100 each (Manufacturer: Admore) Note: I have 3 770s using 2 each of these so-dimms without any problems. IBM USR X2 56K PCMCIA modem (upgraded to v.90) $150 PPreference given to buyers I've dealt with before. Please ask any questions BEFORE purchasing. Prices are not negotiable. Pre-pay or COD (cashiers-check or money-order). PREPAY: I pay FED-EX 2-day shipping for prepayment with cashier's check or money-order. COD: You pay $40 towards Fed-Ex 2-day COD shipping with cashier's check or money-order. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 29 00:59:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA00550 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:59:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03752; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:59:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:57:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03632; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03619; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (13.p1.usr01.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.166.77]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id AAA17021 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:57:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3660E2AA.19BA5329@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:59:06 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'ThinkPad List'" Subject: Compuserve ThinkPad Forum is Finis' References: <01BE1ABB.BE82C400@tnote> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: WITH REGRET, i bring the news that the venerable Compuserve IBM Supported ThinkPad forum has passed into history, just another example of IBM snatching at defeat from the jaws of victory -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 29 10:38:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA03804 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:38:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20491; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:38:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:35:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20322; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:35:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from bradnet (bradnet.legend.co.uk [194.164.19.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20307; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:35:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by bradnet (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03/2.0) id PAA387.63; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:35:47 GMT Message-Id: <199811291535.PAA387.63@bradnet> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 98 15:35:46 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: DOCK I external SCSI To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] for OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: How do I manage to add external SCSI devices to a TP DOCK I? Is there something that needs to be done in the BIOS setup (F1) to activate the external SCSI port or do I need install something inside the docking station? BTW is there something such as an instruction manual in PDF format which I can download from somewhere? -- John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 29 10:51:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA03890 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20958; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:51:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:50:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20865; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:50:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20851; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:50:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-101-126-186.il.us.ibm.net [32.101.126.186]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA84976; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:50:42 GMT Message-ID: <36616B97.28D2171D@ibm.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:43:20 -0600 From: Jeff Fayne Reply-To: fayne@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [FA] Thinkpad Battery & External Charger on Ebay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, For those who are interested, I have a 380 series battery (IBM FRU P/N 73H9951, ASM P/N 73H9861 10.8V 2.6AH) and an external charger kit (IBM P/N 02K6499 for 380, 385, 560, 600, 770) for auction on Ebay. Both are manufactured by IBM and have never been used. Battery: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=45063844 Charger : http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=45545980 Jeff From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Nov 29 14:22:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA05337 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26137; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:22:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:21:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26014; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:21:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from strauss.baraboo.com (strauss.baraboo.com [156.46.199.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26002; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:20:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from dwilliam.baraboo.com ([156.46.152.13]) by strauss.baraboo.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-39844U2500L250S0) with SMTP id AAA285 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:25:27 -0600 Message-ID: <36619E5D.2337@iname.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:19:57 -0600 From: Jeff Fletcher Reply-To: jeff_fletcher@iname.com Organization: Applied Data Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Compuserve ThinkPad Forum is Finis' References: <01BE1ABB.BE82C400@tnote> <3660E2AA.19BA5329@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: That, along with Ambiguous Sales Practices (TM), defines the IBM experience. Too bad the Thinkpads are SO nice, otherwise I would not do business with them at all. Bill Morrow wrote: > > WITH REGRET, > > i bring the news that the venerable Compuserve IBM Supported ThinkPad forum has passed into > history, > > just another example of IBM snatching at defeat from the jaws of victory From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 30 05:31:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA13526 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 05:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06224; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 05:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 05:28:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06081; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 05:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.generics.co.uk (mailgate.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06055; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 05:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from scigen.co.uk (scigen) by mailgate.generics.co.uk (5.0/PIPEX simple 1.26) id AA19726; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:34:24 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk by scigen.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01149; Mon, 30 Nov 98 10:22:26 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:27:26 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, John Poltorak Subject: Re: DOCK I external SCSI, and LINUX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: I just plugged mine in and that was that=2E I use the IBM dos drivers=20= under DOS and windows 3=2E1=2E You might want to make sure the IRQ is set=20= to something that these are going to like, it's a jumper on the DOCK=20= internal board=2E There are extensive diags on the thinkpad DOCK1 utilities disk to get=20= you going=2E I still haven't got the Linux drivers going but I think I know why, I=20= think they aren't modloaded before the SCSI probe happens at boot=20= time, so the probe fails: hence no SCSI=2E Anyone tried to compile the=20= kernel with them in statically linked? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: DOCK I external SCSI Author: PC:John Poltorak at INTERNET Date: 29/11/98 15:39 How do I manage to add external SCSI devices to a TP DOCK I? Is there something that needs to be done in the BIOS setup (F1) to=20= activate the external SCSI port or do I need install something inside=20= the docking station? BTW is there something such as an instruction manual in PDF format=20= which I can download from somewhere? -- John ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 30 12:09:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA16972 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:09:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24890; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:03:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24544; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24509; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-223-085.usc.edu [128.125.223.85]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id JAA20775; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:02:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981126135208.00a2bd60@rcf.usc.edu> Message-Id: <4.1.19981126135208.00a2bd60@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:02:17 -0800 To: Alan Wong , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Network/Modem PCMCIA card recommendations for TP600 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981126104732.00a24af0@mail.newsguy.com> References: <199811150948.BAA26907@netcom17.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:59 AM 11/26/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hello All- > >I'm in the market for a PCMCIA network card and modem card. I was initially >going to purchase the >3Com combo card (3CCFEM556B) but I received many replies that this card is >*VERY* hard to get this >working. I confirmed this myself by borrowing that same card from my >friend. I tried under Win98 various times >with no luck. I have no trouble whatsoever with that same card under Win 95. As a matter of fact, it worked fine for me under Win 98 during the brief time I had that installed on my laptop. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 30 12:47:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA17445 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:47:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27704; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:47:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:46:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27574; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:46:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.jud.ca.gov (mx.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.222]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27561; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (host-220.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.220] (may be forged)) by mx.jud.ca.gov (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA09427 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:43:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.11 Enterprise) id 00009423; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:50:41 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:42:14 -0800 Message-ID: <00009423.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) Subject: FS: Dock I Cable package To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part List-Unsubscribe: Last weekend, I finally hit the bottom of my extra TP box and found the famous (or infamous) TP Dock I cable package. There are two cables in this group: 1. The IBM IDE cable: IBM-proprietary sized cable on on side (this side goes into the Dock), the other side is the industry standard 40 pin IDE connector. 2. Dock I CD-ROM sound cable - connects from the IBM CD-ROM sound port to the Dock I sound input connector. First buyer at $20 plus $3 for the postage gets it. Mitchell From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 30 14:03:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA18380 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:03:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02310; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:52:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:50:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02076; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:50:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02055; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:50:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (78.p1.Ascend18.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.174.206]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id NAA02375; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:50:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3662E94D.2B90C76C@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:51:57 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jane Loyless CC: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Compuserve ThinkPad Forum is Finis' References: <36619E5D.2337@iname.com> <01BE1ABB.BE82C400@tnote> <3660E2AA.19BA5329@icanect.net> <3.0.1.32.19981130123535.00a597c0@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Jane.. Jane Loyless wrote: > At 09:21 AM 11/30/98 -0800, you wrote: > > > 3) Between privately-run mailing lists like this and the web-based > >Thinkpad forums IBM put in place, the Compuserve forum becomes quite > >unnecessary. Though I would agree that IBM should support a mailing list > >like this one, and publicize the fact with every ThinkPad sold. > > > > > In all, pulling out of Compuserve is no big deal. All they did was change > >the venue. Personally, I think that's a wise business decision, as the > >venue they have chosen reaches far more people. > > > > Yeah, I know, but they didn't change just the venue. They changed the > format as well. The online only nature of a web forum sucks - even Bill's > (sorry, Bill). It's too slow and tedious to plow through looking for that > nugget of information that's there. > no apology needed.. it IS a bit slow and tedious.. There is another forum application available, but the cost is too high.. i don't think that ANYONE wants to pay to have a better format, so it just stays the same.. i have considered a thinkpad club, with membership dues and discounts off listed prices, but that is way more than i want to do.. i am open to suggestions from any person who has a better idea... since i AM a thinkpad dealer, i suppose i could push the machines, upgrade to a new server box and software, and hope the profits cover the expense of faster and better forum software.. > When the forum closing was first announced and then postponed, TP Forum > members on CIS told the IBMers there repeatedly that losing the speed and > convenience of off-line capabilities was a big issue. Did IBM listen? Of > course not. > there is no match for the compuserve threading software and the support CSi had aomng add on's..the CSi forum was a great place a few years ago, then IBM chose to cease pushing it, thus dropping the traffic and the impact, IMO.. > Jane -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig)<--For Sale 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 30 14:40:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA18912 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:39:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05204; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:31:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05026; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:31:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04962; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:31:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from librettoII.hlb.cable.rcn.com (r7a006661ax.hlb.cable.rcn.com [209.122.66.230]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA12127; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:31:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by librettoII.hlb.cable.rcn.com (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:30:15 -0500 Message-ID: <00a201be1c97$db001e10$0100a8c0@ppro-x2> From: "Robert Briganti" To: "Bill Morrow" , "Jane Loyless" Cc: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: Re: Compuserve ThinkPad Forum is Finis' Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:30:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2110.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0d Unregistered List-Unsubscribe: Companies seem to be cutting back on expenses, and not just IBM on CompuServe. Both Symantec and Intel have dropped their newservers and pushed their discussion groups to their Internet sites. Unfortunately, I agree that the Internet is cumbersome and not worth the time and effort to wade through to follow messages, topics, etc. The newservers were better than CompuServe since you did not have to join to participate. Anyone with access to the Internet ISP could access the newsgroups, at least if your ISP provided the feed and you found out the address of the server. Corel (csnews.corel.com), Powerquest (forum.powerquest.com) and Microsoft (msnews.microsoft.com) still have newservers, if anyone is interested. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow To: Jane Loyless Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 13:50 Subject: Re: Compuserve ThinkPad Forum is Finis' >Jane.. > >Jane Loyless wrote: > >> At 09:21 AM 11/30/98 -0800, you wrote: >> >> > 3) Between privately-run mailing lists like this and the web-based >> >Thinkpad forums IBM put in place, the Compuserve forum becomes quite >> >unnecessary. Though I would agree that IBM should support a mailing list >> >like this one, and publicize the fact with every ThinkPad sold. >> > >> > > > >> > In all, pulling out of Compuserve is no big deal. All they did was change >> >the venue. Personally, I think that's a wise business decision, as the >> >venue they have chosen reaches far more people. >> > >> >> Yeah, I know, but they didn't change just the venue. They changed the >> format as well. The online only nature of a web forum sucks - even Bill's >> (sorry, Bill). It's too slow and tedious to plow through looking for that >> nugget of information that's there. >> > >no apology needed.. >it IS a bit slow and tedious.. >There is another forum application available, but the cost is too high.. > >i don't think that ANYONE wants to pay to have a better format, so it just stays the >same.. > >i have considered a thinkpad club, with membership dues and discounts off listed >prices, but that is way more than i want to do.. > >i am open to suggestions from any person who has a better idea... > >since i AM a thinkpad dealer, i suppose i could push the machines, upgrade to a new >server box and software, and hope the profits cover the expense of faster and better >forum software.. > > >> When the forum closing was first announced and then postponed, TP Forum >> members on CIS told the IBMers there repeatedly that losing the speed and >> convenience of off-line capabilities was a big issue. Did IBM listen? Of >> course not. >> > >there is no match for the compuserve threading software and the support CSi had aomng >add on's..the CSi forum was a great place a few years ago, then IBM chose to cease >pushing it, thus dropping the traffic and the impact, IMO.. > > >> Jane > > > >-- >Happy Trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html >bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net >770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), >770ED-5AU(8.1gig)<--For Sale >760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), >701C(6.3gig, 40meg), >755CE(no gig, 40meg), >750C(no gig, 4meg), >IBM WorkPad(1meg) > >Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on >a >closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 30 16:21:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA20110 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:20:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11070; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:13:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10868; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:13:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (root@amber.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10854; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:13:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from sinai.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@sinai.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20852 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by sinai.ccs.neu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id PAA12988; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:00:27 -0500 (EST) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: TP List Subject: new 560's? From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 30 Nov 1998 15:00:26 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.43/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: Howdy- I've seen mention in trade mags that IBM is planning to release an even thinner TP560 model with a larger screen (13.3) and disk (6GB) next year. Does anyone have any more definitive info (like approx release date, or when IBM usually makes announcements like these)? Thanks. Peace, dNb From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 30 17:04:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA20667 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:04:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26135; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:23:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:22:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25990; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:22:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25954; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:22:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-223-085.usc.edu [128.125.223.85]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id JAA27002 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:22:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981130091543.009fe040@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:21:46 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Compuserve ThinkPad Forum is Finis' In-Reply-To: <36619E5D.2337@iname.com> References: <01BE1ABB.BE82C400@tnote> <3660E2AA.19BA5329@icanect.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I wouldn't make too big of a deal about it. Recognize a few things: 1) Compuserve recently changed hands--perhaps the new policy was too difficult for IBM (or other vendors). 2) Compuserve, while once the leader in on-line communication, is now but a shadow in this marketplace. With the growth of the internet as the prevalent force, forums like Compuserve's become all but irrelevant. 3) Between privately-run mailing lists like this and the web-based Thinkpad forums IBM put in place, the Compuserve forum becomes quite unnecessary. Though I would agree that IBM should support a mailing list like this one, and publicize the fact with every ThinkPad sold. In all, pulling out of Compuserve is no big deal. All they did was change the venue. Personally, I think that's a wise business decision, as the venue they have chosen reaches far more people. At 01:19 PM 11/29/98 -0600, you wrote: >That, along with Ambiguous Sales Practices (TM), defines the IBM >experience. Too bad the Thinkpads are SO nice, otherwise I would not do >business with them at all. > >Bill Morrow wrote: >> >> WITH REGRET, >> >> i bring the news that the venerable Compuserve IBM Supported ThinkPad >forum has passed into >> history, >> >> just another example of IBM snatching at defeat from the jaws of victory ---- Randal Whittle rwhittle@usa.net "Did you really think you could call up the Devil and ask him to behave?" -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 30 17:04:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA20663 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:04:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27953; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:49:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:48:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27809; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27792; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:48:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04926 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:48:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts_jl (DTS_JL-pcp098671pcs.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA04916 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:48:19 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981130123535.00a597c0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:35:35 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Compuserve ThinkPad Forum is Finis' In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981130091543.009fe040@rcf.usc.edu> References: <36619E5D.2337@iname.com> <01BE1ABB.BE82C400@tnote> <3660E2AA.19BA5329@icanect.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:21 AM 11/30/98 -0800, you wrote: > 3) Between privately-run mailing lists like this and the web-based >Thinkpad forums IBM put in place, the Compuserve forum becomes quite >unnecessary. Though I would agree that IBM should support a mailing list >like this one, and publicize the fact with every ThinkPad sold. > > In all, pulling out of Compuserve is no big deal. All they did was change >the venue. Personally, I think that's a wise business decision, as the >venue they have chosen reaches far more people. > Yeah, I know, but they didn't change just the venue. They changed the format as well. The online only nature of a web forum sucks - even Bill's (sorry, Bill). It's too slow and tedious to plow through looking for that nugget of information that's there. When the forum closing was first announced and then postponed, TP Forum members on CIS told the IBMers there repeatedly that losing the speed and convenience of off-line capabilities was a big issue. Did IBM listen? Of course not. Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 30 18:34:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA21756 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18348; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:32:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:30:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18212; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:30:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18195; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-223-091.usc.edu [128.125.223.91]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id PAA14228; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:29:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981130152301.009fb790@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:29:01 -0800 To: Jane Loyless , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Compuserve ThinkPad Forum is Finis' In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19981130123535.00a597c0@pop.mindspring.com> References: <4.1.19981130091543.009fe040@rcf.usc.edu> <36619E5D.2337@iname.com> <01BE1ABB.BE82C400@tnote> <3660E2AA.19BA5329@icanect.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:35 PM 11/30/98 -0500, you wrote: >At 09:21 AM 11/30/98 -0800, you wrote: > >> 3) Between privately-run mailing lists like this and the web-based >>Thinkpad forums IBM put in place, the Compuserve forum becomes quite >>unnecessary. Though I would agree that IBM should support a mailing list >>like this one, and publicize the fact with every ThinkPad sold. >> >> In all, pulling out of Compuserve is no big deal. All they did was change >>the venue. Personally, I think that's a wise business decision, as the >>venue they have chosen reaches far more people. >> > >Yeah, I know, but they didn't change just the venue. They changed the >format as well. The online only nature of a web forum sucks - >members on CIS told the IBMers there repeatedly that losing the speed and >convenience of off-line capabilities was a big issue. Did IBM listen? Of I would agree its a huge issue. I would far prefer an e-mail list like this or better yet, a dedicated news server. I don't like web-based, but it does potentially reach more people for the simple fact that most anyone with an internet connection knows about & uses a web browser, but far too few people have a clue what a newsgroup reader is. ------ Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net - Smile :-) Its a curve that can set a LOT of things straight. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 30 22:53:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA25575 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:53:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27500; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:52:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:51:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27288; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:51:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27275; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:51:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from 81.chicago-33-34rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.161.81]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981201035025.XPV18504@81.chicago-33-34rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 03:50:25 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: TP List Subject: Re: Compuserve ThinkPad Forum is Finis' Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 03:50:40 GMT Message-ID: <366a5bec.89564035@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <4.1.19981130091543.009fe040@rcf.usc.edu> <36619E5D.2337@iname.com> <01BE1ABB.BE82C400@tnote> <3660E2AA.19BA5329@icanect.net> <4.1.19981130152301.009fb790@rcf.usc.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981130152301.009fb790@rcf.usc.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:29:01 -0800, you wrote: > I would agree its a huge issue. I would far prefer an e-mail list like >this or better yet, a dedicated news server. Those options appeal to me as well. While the Sony 505 has some options for using the web for information (web boards from Sony and others), I like the ability to download and read at my leisure. So much so that I was willing to put up the time and additional $5 a month for a mailing list myself, rather than continue browsing the web for info about the system. I credit this list for giving me such a favorable impression of them. :-) Hope no one finds that too traitorous of me. I still use my Thinkpads, of course - my 560 is the list server! epbrown Portable Computing FAQ - http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown Sony VAIO 505 info - http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown/Sony505G.html List Admin - Sony VAIO 505 Mailing List From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 30 22:53:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA25574 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:53:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27503; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:52:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:51:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27321; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:51:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27285; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:51:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from 81.chicago-33-34rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.161.81]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981201035037.XTQ18504@81.chicago-33-34rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 03:50:37 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: TP List Subject: Re: new 560's? Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 03:50:52 GMT Message-ID: <36695ba7.89495185@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: On 30 Nov 1998 15:00:26 -0500, you wrote: > I've seen mention in trade mags that IBM is planning to release an > even thinner TP560 model with a larger screen (13.3) and disk (6GB) > next year. Does anyone have any more definitive info (like approx > release date, or when IBM usually makes announcements like these)? > Thanks. > IBM usually announces/releases at the end of the year's first quarter, or beginning of the second. epbrown Portable Computing FAQ - http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown Sony VAIO 505 info - http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown/Sony505G.html List Admin - Sony VAIO 505 Mailing List From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Nov 30 23:15:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA25762 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:15:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28520; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:14:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28398; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:14:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28386; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:14:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA05078 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:14:36 -0500 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:14:36 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: TP List Subject: Re: Compuserve ThinkPad Forum is Finis' In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981130152301.009fb790@rcf.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Randal Whittle wrote: > At 12:35 PM 11/30/98 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Yeah, I know, but they didn't change just the venue. They changed the > >format as well. The online only nature of a web forum sucks - > > >members on CIS told the IBMers there repeatedly that losing the speed and > >convenience of off-line capabilities was a big issue. Did IBM listen? Of > > I would agree its a huge issue. I would far prefer an e-mail list like > this or better yet, a dedicated news server. > > I don't like web-based, but it does potentially reach more people for the > simple fact that most anyone with an internet connection knows about & uses > a web browser, but far too few people have a clue what a newsgroup reader is. News has the huge advantage of being specifically designed for large-scale discussions with huge numbers of participants. Even if there were no speed difference, I would prefer to see web-based boards and mailing lists transferred over to news servers, where I have options like threading (as opposed to the FIFO format of web boards and mail), killfiling topics (and annoying posters), and preselecting everything I want to read so I don't have to do anything but hit the space bar for the next hour. :-) A newsreaders is built into Netscape, and it's trivial to link to a newsgroup via an HTML tag, so I don't think it should be an issue that most people don't know what it is. Unfortunately, news has the HUGE disadvantage of having been taken over by the spammers. I've given up posting to newsgroups so as to avoid the deluge of spam from all the harvesters. And I've given up reading a lot of my favorite groups because they've been innundated by spam ads. Personally, I think spammers should be shot for destroying what had been a shining example of a cooperative distributed networked service. But there may be hope yet: www.usenet2.org -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org