From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 01:26:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA01197 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11861; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:20:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:18:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11728; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucy.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11715; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seawesta-95.az.com (seawesta-95.az.com [204.201.18.95]) by lucy.az.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA15769 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 22:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809010513.WAA15769@lucy.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Mon, 31 Aug 98 22:34:46 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Discharge rate of Lithium Ion batteries? List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 20:56:42 +0000, Jim McGhee wrote: >Hi, >According to the spec I saw, a fully charged battery should still >contain 95% of the charge after 1 year on the shelf. > >Jim > >TD wrote: >> >> Anyone know how fast lithium ion batteries normally discharge when NOT in >> use? Does anyone have this information on NiMH batteries? =\ Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 01:53:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA01523 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12811; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:51:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12676; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:51:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12663; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 760 ([12.68.136.223]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980901055104.FCMY22715@760>; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 05:51:04 +0000 From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "LightSide" , Subject: Re: Discharge rate of Lithium Ion batteries? Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:49:02 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980901055104.FCMY22715@760> List-Unsubscribe: They last around a week ---------- > From: LightSide > To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: Re: Discharge rate of Lithium Ion batteries? > Date: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 2:34 AM > > On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 20:56:42 +0000, Jim McGhee wrote: > > >Hi, > >According to the spec I saw, a fully charged battery should still > >contain 95% of the charge after 1 year on the shelf. > > > >Jim > > > >TD wrote: > >> > >> Anyone know how fast lithium ion batteries normally discharge when NOT in > >> use? > > > Does anyone have this information on NiMH batteries? =\ > > Robert > > > Robert Mears > Certified Key and Button Pusher > robertm@az.com > OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 03:09:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA02534 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 03:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15295; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 03:07:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 03:03:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14602; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 03:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14582; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 03:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter (ppp14.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 01 Sep 1998 00:03:17 PST From: "peter machule" To: , "Jeremy D. Zawodny" Subject: Re: [TP380D] PC Card Recommendations Needed... Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 00:02:24 -0000 Message-ID: <01bdd53b$cc406180$5c645a8e@peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: You are aware of the Eval/promo pricing ? Visit 3Coms site and start browsing. The "normal "price " of $170 is too high. I paid .....~$119 -$99 over 2 years ago. http://www.3com.com/promotions/gomobile/index.html http://www.3com.com/promotions/grand_slam_v90/index.html Phone them and start whinning (grin)..... -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy D. Zawodny Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Saturday, August 29, 1998 12:11 PM Subject: [TP380D] PC Card Recommendations Needed... >The following message is a courtesy copy of an article >that has been posted to comp.sys.laptops as well. > >Greetings, > >I have recently acquired a ThinkPad 380D and am quite pleased with it >(I got a good deal). I plan to run Linux on it roughly 80% of the time >and Windows 95 roughly 20% of the time. What I'm looking for are >recommendations that anyone may have on a good Ethernet PC Card and a >Modem PC Card. > >Specifically, I'd need a 10Mbps Ethernet Card with support for both >10base-T and 10base-2. Obviously, it ought to be trouble free with >Linux and 95... though I will be using the Ethernet card almost >exclusively under Linux. > >And the modem... I'd like 33.6 right now ('cause the V.90s seem to be >too expensive yet). It'll be used mostly under 95 and occasionally >under Linux. > >From a cursory look at what's available, I'm leaning toward the 3Com >Etherlink III 10T/BNC combo. I have no real preference on the modem >yet. > >So, I'd appreciate any feedback (positive or negative) about PC Cards >you may have used. > >Thanks in advance, > >Jeremy >-- >Jeremy D. Zawodny Web Geek, Perl Hacker, etc. >http://www.wcnet.org/~jzawodn/ jzawodn@wcnet.org > >LOAD "LINUX",8,1 > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 03:13:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA02564 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 03:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15844; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 03:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 03:09:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15498; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 03:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mw3.texas.net (mw3.texas.net [206.127.30.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15486; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 03:09:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ouatic (tcnet02-04.sat.texas.net [209.99.49.67]) by mw3.texas.net (2.4/2.4) with SMTP id CAA23278 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 02:09:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000501bdd577$79a93a00$433163d1@ouatic> From: "TD" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: TP770 - Problems with parallel port Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 02:09:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I'm having a major problem running anything on my TP770's parallel port. I tried installing 2 different Hewlett Packard printers with no luck. Upon turning on the system, even before it gets into Win98, the printer starts cycling and just prints out a few garbage characters on each sheet of paper. When I install the printers, Win98 tells me the printers are out of paper (even though they're not) and keeps printing out garbage characters. I don't think it's Win98 that is the problem because like I mentioned earlier...the pc starts cycling the printer and makes it go nuts right from boot up...before I get into Win98 and even before any printer drivers are installed. I've also tried installing a parallel Syquest Sparq 1.0 G drive with no luck. I've even tried disabling the infrared functions with no luck. I'm hoping that this is a simple setup bug somewhere and not a hardware problem...but I doubt it. Any help appreciated. -T- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 04:59:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA03792 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 04:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20128; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 04:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 04:57:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19986; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 04:57:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop03.globecomm.net (pop03.globecomm.net [206.253.130.65]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19973; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 04:57:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wierd (slip202-135-133-59.jk.id.ibm.net [202.135.133.59]) by pop03.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id EAA02986 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 04:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Sobat Lama" From: "Sobat Lama" To: "Thinkpad list" Subject: unsubscribe Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:52:30 +0700 Message-ID: <01bdd585$da503c60$3b8587ca@wierd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 10:01:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07770 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07282; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:57:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06875; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from light.lightlink.com (root@light.lightlink.com [205.232.34.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06855; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:56:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from reliable.clarityconnect.com (209150230196.clarityconnect.com [209.150.230.196] (may be forged)) by light.lightlink.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21349 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809011356.JAA21349@light.lightlink.com> From: "Chuck Paulson" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: 770ED with Dragon System's Naturally Speaking Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:56:09 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I recently bought a 770ED and amy trying to use it with Dragon System's Naturally Speaking Preferred. Thanks to messages here I finally got the microphone working after getting a ANC-600 from Andrea Electronics. It comes with a Thinkpad adapter for the microphone. Now the problem is that during audio test I get sound level "normal" but sound quality is "below average". I've tried disconnecting AC power, adjusting microphone position, disabling all sound input devices except the microphone one, etc. without any effect. Can anyone give suggestions? Is the sound input on 770ED really bad? Thanks, Chuck Paulson From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 11:19:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA09041 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:19:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11795; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:18:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:17:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11698; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11676; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:17:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter (ppp03.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 01 Sep 1998 08:16:56 PST From: "peter machule" To: "TD" , "Thinkpad List" Subject: Re: TP770 - Problems with parallel port Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:14:58 -0000 Message-ID: <01bdd580$9c28ed60$5c645a8e@peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: Most new HP printers require Bidirectional parallel ports to work. To enable EPP/ bidirectional mode on most IBM thinkpads and desktops the PORT adress must be changed . YUP ! Even better is the fact that this is rarely (if ever ) documented. So try and change the port adress. I just came across this again last week setting up an IBM Z workstation . Dual Pentium Pros ...very nice toy. ;-} BTW a Good source of IBM parts; workstation and thinkpads is www.usapc.com. The Garbage character situation may not be related. The SparQ situation is. There is sounds like the install software is getting confused as to the capbilities of your port and picks the wrong parameters. ...peter.. -----Original Message----- From: TD To: Thinkpad List Date: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 8:09 AM Subject: TP770 - Problems with parallel port >I'm having a major problem running anything on my TP770's parallel port. I >tried installing 2 different Hewlett Packard printers with no luck. > >Upon turning on the system, even before it gets into Win98, the printer >starts cycling and just prints out a few garbage characters on each sheet of >paper. > >When I install the printers, Win98 tells me the printers are out of paper >(even though they're not) and keeps printing out garbage characters. I >don't think it's Win98 that is the problem because like I mentioned >earlier...the pc starts cycling the printer and makes it go nuts right from >boot up...before I get into Win98 and even before any printer drivers are >installed. > >I've also tried installing a parallel Syquest Sparq 1.0 G drive with no >luck. I've even tried disabling the infrared functions with no luck. > >I'm hoping that this is a simple setup bug somewhere and not a hardware >problem...but I doubt it. Any help appreciated. > >-T- > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 11:42:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA09478 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13229; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:41:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13135; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from huygens.physics.mcgill.ca (huygens.physics.mcgill.ca [132.206.92.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13122; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from alban@localhost) by huygens.physics.mcgill.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) id LAA01228; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:40:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer X-Sender: alban@huygens.physics.mcgill.ca To: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer Subject: Re: ThinkPad memory to give away In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE List-Unsubscribe: The 16 MB module is gone. Does anybody want the 8 MB? Alban On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Alban Gerd Kellerbauer wrote: > After having tried to sell these for a while, I am giving away one of=20 > each of the following RAM modules, preferably to a student. > I will pay for shipping, but will require proof that you have made a=20 > charitable donation equivalent to the shipping costs. >=20 > 8 MB SO-DIMM (IBM) > IBM Option P/N: 92G7340 > IBM FRU P/N: 42H2767 > Kingston eq. P/N: KTM760ELD/8 >=20 > 16 MB SO-DIMM (Kingston) > IBM eq. Option P/N: 92G7341 > IBM eq. FRU P/N: 42H2768 > Kingston P/N: KTM760ELD/16 >=20 > Alban >=20 > A. Kellerbauer >=20 > McGill University Nuclear Physics > Montr=E9al (Qu=E9bec) > UIN 8141789 >=20 A. Kellerbauer McGill University Nuclear Physics Montr=E9al (Qu=E9bec) UIN 8141789 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 11:56:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA09699 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14183; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:56:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:55:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14085; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14065; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uxledkvk (ppp41.net21.binghamton.edu [128.226.21.41]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA09831 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809011555.LAA09831@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 11:55:03 -0400 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TP770ED] Unable to install ethernet cards in Win95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I've tried installing two different brands of combination ethernet/modem PCMCIA cards into my 770ED with Windows 95 OSR/2. One was a USRobotics "Megahertz" 33.6 Ethernet Modem 10 Mbps LAN Adapter/33.6/14.4kbps Data/Fax modem. The other was some IBM card with the same specs. In both cases, I obtained the appropriate drivers from the manufacturer's web page. In both cases, the problem behavior was the same: I'd go to Add New Hardware, Have Disk, etc., I'd pick the correct Multi-Function Adapter >from the list, I'd reboot...and, on Windows 95 starting up, it pops up a "Recognizing New Hardware" message, which resolves itself into "Adding Cardsoft PCMCIA Modem". And, then, indeed, I now have a CardSoft modem installed in my hardware, instead of the appropriate brand of Multi-Function Adapter...and, thus, I can't access the network portion of the card at all. Is this a Win95 problem? Is this a problem with the PCMCIA-card handling software that comes with the 770ED (SystemSoft Card Wizard)? I'd love to resolve this so I can determine whether or not I'll actually be able to use any LAN cards on my machine or not, and whether I'm going to be stuck picking specific brands or models that others know work with the 770ED. I hope this one turns out to be a common problem, and simple to solve. Thanks so much for any help! Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 12:06:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09909 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14906; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:05:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:04:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14747; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:04:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14728; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (mg137-008.ricochet.net [204.179.137.8]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05450; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002f01bdd5c2$315f41e0$0201a8c0@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Thinkpad" , "Ken" Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Unable to install ethernet cards in Win95 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:04:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Uninstall the CardSoft software. It is not needed on Win95. Then reboot without the card and go to the PCMCIA control panel and it will ask if you want to re-install the PC card support. Do so. Now restart with the card inserted and it will all work fine. -----Original Message----- From: Ken To: Thinkpad Date: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 8:56 AM Subject: [TP770ED] Unable to install ethernet cards in Win95 >I've tried installing two different brands of combination ethernet/modem >PCMCIA cards into my 770ED with Windows 95 OSR/2. One was a USRobotics >"Megahertz" 33.6 Ethernet Modem 10 Mbps LAN Adapter/33.6/14.4kbps Data/Fax >modem. The other was some IBM card with the same specs. > >In both cases, I obtained the appropriate drivers from the manufacturer's >web page. In both cases, the problem behavior was the same: I'd go to Add >New Hardware, Have Disk, etc., I'd pick the correct Multi-Function Adapter >from the list, I'd reboot...and, on Windows 95 starting up, it pops up a >"Recognizing New Hardware" message, which resolves itself into "Adding >Cardsoft PCMCIA Modem". And, then, indeed, I now have a CardSoft modem >installed in my hardware, instead of the appropriate brand of >Multi-Function Adapter...and, thus, I can't access the network portion of >the card at all. > >Is this a Win95 problem? Is this a problem with the PCMCIA-card handling >software that comes with the 770ED (SystemSoft Card Wizard)? I'd love to >resolve this so I can determine whether or not I'll actually be able to use >any LAN cards on my machine or not, and whether I'm going to be stuck >picking specific brands or models that others know work with the 770ED. > >I hope this one turns out to be a common problem, and simple to solve. >Thanks so much for any help! > >Ken >kenzo@free-music.com > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 12:14:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10050 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:14:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15649; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:13:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15546; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15534; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uxledkvk (ppp41.net21.binghamton.edu [128.226.21.41]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA17746; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809011612.MAA17746@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 12:12:36 -0400 To: "David W. Taylor" , "Thinkpad" From: Ken Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Unable to install ethernet cards in Win95 In-Reply-To: <002f01bdd5c2$315f41e0$0201a8c0@greasygirl.brightware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:04 AM 9/1/98 -0700, David W. Taylor wrote: >Uninstall the CardSoft software. It is not needed on Win95. >Then reboot without the card and go to the PCMCIA control panel and it will >ask if you want to re-install the PC card support. Do so. >Now restart with the card inserted and it will all work fine. OK, so what will "re-installing the PC card support" actually install? Also, what IS the CardSoft software needed for? Does it provide DOS support? Finally, will I be able to reinstall the CardSoft software later if I uninstall it? Would I ever want to? Thanks so much for the speedy help! Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 12:46:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10563 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:46:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18253; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:43:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17866; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17810; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 01 Sep 1998 09:42:56 PST From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: RE CARDSOFT ...was...Unable to install ethernet cards in Win95 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:47:33 -0700 Message-ID: <01bdd5c8$37992200$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: CardSoft was provided for the 32bit PC card support ie CardBUS aka 32bit PCMCIA cards. This is not an issue with WIN95 OSR2 (the B version) which has this built in. You now actually have both OSR2's PCMCIA support and CardSoft's . IBM was on drugs .....again. ;-} If anyone has found a REAL advantage to CardSoft , PLEASE let us know. Panasonic Did they same on their CF-62 line of laptops. Mind you they originally did ship with WIN95 A not B. ..peter.. -----Original Message----- From: Ken To: David W. Taylor ; Thinkpad Date: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Unable to install ethernet cards in Win95 >At 09:04 AM 9/1/98 -0700, David W. Taylor wrote: >>Uninstall the CardSoft software. It is not needed on Win95. >>Then reboot without the card and go to the PCMCIA control panel and it will >>ask if you want to re-install the PC card support. Do so. >>Now restart with the card inserted and it will all work fine. > >OK, so what will "re-installing the PC card support" actually install? WIN95 OSR2's PCMCIA support. > >Also, what IS the CardSoft software needed for? Does it provide DOS support? I wish I knew !!!! > >Finally, will I be able to reinstall the CardSoft software later if I >uninstall it? Would I ever want to? > >Thanks so much for the speedy help! > >Ken >kenzo@free-music.com > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 12:46:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10568 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18282; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:45:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:43:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17893; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17841; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809011643.MAA17841@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Wed, 31 Aug 1988 9:39:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Thinkpad mailing list" Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 09:44:03 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PS2 Numeric keypad List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I just purchased a CNF PS2 external numeric keypad for my tp600. It does not work at all in DOS, Win95, OS/2 or linux (am I missing any :). I originally assumed there was something I have to turn on, but I can't find any reference to the PS/2 port in the configuration utilities, the Easy setup program, or the PS2.EXE command. I'm beginning to think there is something wrong either with the port or the keypad (not quite sure how to find out which, but that's another question). Am I missing something? Thanks, -Victor ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 12:56:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10748 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18951; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:49:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18735; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:49:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from UPIMSSMTPUSR06 ([207.68.143.179]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18719; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wtn6840.mcit.com - 166.32.109.156 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:49:05 -0700 Message-ID: <006201bdd5c8$5b40f0c0$9c6d20a6@wtn6840.mcit.com> From: "Robert S. Frank" To: Subject: TP 770 (Model 95491-AU) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:48:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005F_01BDD5A6.D240EE40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01BDD5A6.D240EE40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a chance to buy a new TP 770 (91-AU) for a really good price. = What do you folks think? This is the model with a 14" screen, Pentium = MMX 233, 32 MB, 5 GB hard drive, internal modem, MPEG-2 and enhanced = video and audio adapters. My main interest is the 14" screen. I cant quite afford that screen in = the newer 770 E or ED versions, so I figured I buy this one, which has = been discontinued and really dropped in price. Just a few months ago, = this was the top of the line. Now, as you know, you're made to feel = that it's old technology. My biggest concerns with a buying a laptop...whether for $2,500, $3,500 = or $4,500 are quality and reliability (I'm a solo entrepreneur with no = back-up MIS department to help me and no tolerance for being down for a = week or more), keyboard (I'm a touch typist), and monitor (this will be = my one and only business machine and I will be looking at it 8 to 12 = hours a day). That's why I'm just about ready to buy a ThinkPad and = that's why I figured I'd get this 770. =20 What would you folks advise? Though this particular 770 is no longer = being manufactured, will I still be able to buy compatible peripherals = in the future (Zip drive, PC cards, etc.)? Am I doing myself a = disservice by not getting a Pentium II? Should I sacrifice screen size = and other features and get a TP600 with the 233 Pentium II? Just so you = know, slight performance advantages are not a big deal to me. Also, I = am not what you would call a "road warrior", so portability is not the = biggest deal to me either. This machine will basically be a desktop = replacement, maybe going back and forth from home to office each day = (via a backpack I might add). So, I'm just about to pull the trigger...I'm sure you've all been there = before. Your advice would helpfu. Thanks for your time. Bobby Frank ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01BDD5A6.D240EE40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a chance to buy a new TP 770 = (91-AU) for a=20 really good price.  What do you folks think?  This is the = model with a=20 14" screen, Pentium MMX 233, 32 MB, 5 GB hard drive, internal = modem, MPEG-2=20 and enhanced video and audio adapters.
 
My main interest is the 14" = screen.  I=20 cant quite afford that screen in the newer 770 E or ED versions, so I = figured I=20 buy this one, which has been discontinued and really dropped in = price. =20 Just a few months ago, this was the top of the line.  Now, as you = know,=20 you're made to feel that it's old technology.
 
My biggest concerns with a buying a=20 laptop...whether for $2,500, $3,500 or $4,500 are quality and = reliability (I'm a=20 solo entrepreneur with no back-up MIS department to help me and no = tolerance for=20 being down for a week or more), keyboard (I'm a touch typist), and = monitor (this=20 will be my one and only business machine and I will be looking at it 8 = to 12=20 hours a day).  That's why I'm just about ready to buy a ThinkPad = and that's=20 why I figured I'd get this 770. 
 
What would you folks advise?  = Though this=20 particular 770 is no longer being manufactured, will I still be able to = buy=20 compatible peripherals in the future (Zip drive, PC cards, etc.)?  = Am I=20 doing myself a disservice by not getting a Pentium II?  Should I = sacrifice=20 screen size and other features and get a TP600 with the 233 Pentium = II? =20 Just so you know, slight performance advantages are not a big = deal to=20 me.  Also, I am not what you would call a "road warrior", = so=20 portability is not the biggest deal to me either.  This machine = will=20 basically be a desktop replacement, maybe going back and forth from home = to=20 office each day (via a backpack I might add).
 
So, I'm just about to pull the = trigger...I'm sure=20 you've all been there before.  Your advice would = helpfu.
 
Thanks for your time.
 
Bobby Frank
------=_NextPart_000_005F_01BDD5A6.D240EE40-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 12:58:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10771 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19748; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:56:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19612; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19599; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (GREASYGIRL.brightware.com [206.156.118.254]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA19597; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001001bdd5c9$8c937a20$fe769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Thinkpad" , "Ken" Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Unable to install ethernet cards in Win95 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:56:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >>Uninstall the CardSoft software. It is not needed on Win95. >>Then reboot without the card and go to the PCMCIA control panel and it will >>ask if you want to re-install the PC card support. Do so. >>Now restart with the card inserted and it will all work fine. > >OK, so what will "re-installing the PC card support" actually install? The Microsoft sourced PC card support software that may have been uninstalled or turned off by the Cardsoft stuff >Also, what IS the CardSoft software needed for? Does it provide DOS support? This is one of life's mysteries. It IS needed for Windows NT 4.0. My guess is that IBM signed a deal to supply it will all MS operating systems. It is effectively useless on Win95/98 and often gets in the way! There is a separate DOS version, which IS needed for DOS. >Finally, will I be able to reinstall the CardSoft software later if I >uninstall it? Would I ever want to? > It is on your IBM provided CD. On 95/98 it is useless. David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 13:01:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA10811 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:01:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20137; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:59:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19978; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19960; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:59:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uxledkvk (ppp41.net21.binghamton.edu [128.226.21.41]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA03787 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809011659.MAA03787@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 12:58:56 -0400 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TP770ED] Getting PC-cards to work, bypassing CardWorks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: From: "David W. Taylor" >Uninstall the CardSoft software. It is not needed on Win95. From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" >CardSoft was provided for the 32bit PC card support ie CardBUS aka 32bit Thanks for pointing me in the right direction... I found out (from reading the F-ing manual) that I could disable CardSoft "support" on a card-by-card basis (via inserting the card while CardWizard is running, then going to Properties of that card, and changing to PlugNPlay support), bypassing the possibly useless software without having to remove it completely. Indeed, then my card installed beautifully! Thanks again! Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 13:07:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA10990 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20343; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:00:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20226; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:00:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (kglp@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20162; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kglp@localhost) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA13437; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:00:19 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:00:19 -0600 (MDT) From: Ray Bayles To: Victor Kress cc: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: PS2 Numeric keypad In-Reply-To: <199809011643.MAA17841@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: CNF has a web site... and an inquiry address... they are helpful if the product has not been discontinued... You can download drivers and such... and you can send e-mail questions for later reply... if it has not been discontinued... I think they have offices in San Jose or Gilroy, California and in Phoenix or Tucson... Sorry, I have no addresses handy.. but I have contacted them many time.s On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Victor Kress wrote: > Hello, > > I just purchased a CNF PS2 external numeric keypad for my tp600. It does not work at > all in DOS, Win95, OS/2 or linux (am I missing any :). I originally assumed there was > something I have to turn on, but I can't find any reference to the PS/2 port in the > configuration utilities, the Easy setup program, or the PS2.EXE command. I'm > beginning to think there is something wrong either with the port or the keypad (not quite > sure how to find out which, but that's another question). Am I missing something? > > Thanks, > > -Victor > ________________________________ > Victor Kress > Geological Sciences > Box 351310 > University of Washington > Seattle, Washington > 98195-1310 > > (206)616-8512 > kress@u.washington.edu > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 13:19:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11180 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22050; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:18:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:17:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21834; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21805; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:16:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (GREASYGIRL.brightware.com [206.156.118.254]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA05529; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001c01bdd5cc$6b2a2250$fe769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Thinkpad" , "Ken" Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Getting PC-cards to work, bypassing CardWorks Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:17:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Whatever floats your boat. I happily removed it completely and never looked back! > >Thanks for pointing me in the right direction... I found out (from reading >the F-ing manual) that I could disable CardSoft "support" on a card-by-card >basis (via inserting the card while CardWizard is running, then going to >Properties of that card, and changing to PlugNPlay support), bypassing the >possibly useless software without having to remove it completely. > >Indeed, then my card installed beautifully! > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 13:25:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11354 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22610; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:23:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22479; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:23:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mak.mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22453; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kim@localhost) by mak.mak.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id NAA08477; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:26:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:26:30 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@mak To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Discharge rate of Lithium Ion batteries? In-Reply-To: <19980901055104.FCMY22715@760> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > They [NiMH] last around a week More specifically, they discharge 5%-15% every day (usually closer to 15%). However, my 701's NiMH has held its charge for over a month. There was some blurb on the newsgroups about the 701's NiMH being designed to hold its charge on the shelf. -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 14:26:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA12472 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:26:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26521; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:23:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26362; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:23:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dewdrop2.mindspring.com (dewdrop2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26346; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 770 (user-38ld1jq.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.134.122]) by dewdrop2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA05535; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:22:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "William Armstrong" To: "Robert S. Frank" Cc: "ThinkPad list" Subject: RE: TP 770 (Model 95491-AU) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:21:15 -0400 Message-ID: <000601bdd5d5$4e9cef60$5e6afea9@770> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <006201bdd5c8$5b40f0c0$9c6d20a6@wtn6840.mcit.com> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Robert, I have this laptop (Model no. 9549-1AU). Bought it for top dollar at the end of last year. It's a great machine for the most part. I can describe two problems that you may want to be aware or. Apparently many of the 9549-1AU machines required an EZServe repair that involved the addition of a wire on the main board. I had problems with my machine locking up on occasion and this repair seemed to have fixed this problem. I don't know how many of the 9549-1AU had this problem. Perhaps others will have more insight. I also have had problems with the black paint coming off of the keyboard bezel just below the trackpoint/mouse buttons (wher you rest your palms). Others also reported this problem. IBM EZServe replaced the bzel once and shortly thereafter the paint started coming off again. I'm like you, I'm a solo guy, so returing the machine for servicing is a big deal and I have not sent it back again to replace the bezel. I have reported the problem, though. Both times IBM said that the repair would not be covered under the warranty, but the first time at least it was repaired (with my persistence, I might add!). As for Pentium vs. Pentium II, I know that the newer PII machines are quite a bit faster. They have an additional 2mb video RAM, which to my mind was the biggest shortcoming of the original TP770 machines. I do CAD and graphics work, so the additional video RAM would be appreciated. For regular everyday correspondence, web surfing, etc., the 233 is plenty fast. The screen is great and worth the money. Get a DVD drive, too, and you can watch movies. -Bill Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Robert S. Frank [mailto:ethico@email.msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 12:49 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 770 (Model 95491-AU) I have a chance to buy a new TP 770 (91-AU) for a really good price. What do you folks think? This is the model with a 14" screen, Pentium MMX 233, 32 MB, 5 GB hard drive, internal modem, MPEG-2 and enhanced video and audio adapters. My main interest is the 14" screen. I cant quite afford that screen in the newer 770 E or ED versions, so I figured I buy this one, which has been discontinued and really dropped in price. Just a few months ago, this was the top of the line. Now, as you know, you're made to feel that it's old technology. My biggest concerns with a buying a laptop...whether for $2,500, $3,500 or $4,500 are quality and reliability (I'm a solo entrepreneur with no back-up MIS department to help me and no tolerance for being down for a week or more), keyboard (I'm a touch typist), and monitor (this will be my one and only business machine and I will be looking at it 8 to 12 hours a day). That's why I'm just about ready to buy a ThinkPad and that's why I figured I'd get this 770. What would you folks advise? Though this particular 770 is no longer being manufactured, will I still be able to buy compatible peripherals in the future (Zip drive, PC cards, etc.)? Am I doing myself a disservice by not getting a Pentium II? Should I sacrifice screen size and other features and get a TP600 with the 233 Pentium II? Just so you know, slight performance advantages are not a big deal to me. Also, I am not what you would call a "road warrior", so portability is not the biggest deal to me either. This machine will basically be a desktop replacement, maybe going back and forth >from home to office each day (via a backpack I might add). So, I'm just about to pull the trigger...I'm sure you've all been there before. Your advice would helpfu. Thanks for your time. Bobby Frank From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 15:43:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA13771 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:43:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04507; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:40:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04342; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04327; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:40:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bp ([12.70.16.78]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980901193956.VVWK21955@bp>; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:39:56 +0000 Message-ID: <35EC4D79.3140@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 15:39:37 -0400 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Paulson CC: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: 770ED with Dragon System's Naturally Speaking References: <199809011356.JAA21349@light.lightlink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The 770 is the best platform for voice dictation you can buy bar non. Don't worry what the wizard says. The wizard is ill.Its your recognition that counts.Below ave is the norm. I am using ViaVoice98 Exec and it flys. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 15:44:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA13779 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04146; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:38:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:36:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03976; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mak.mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03922; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kim@localhost) by mak.mak.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id PAA10637; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:09:55 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@mak To: ThinkPad list Subject: RE: TP 770 (Model 95491-AU) In-Reply-To: <000601bdd5d5$4e9cef60$5e6afea9@770> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Robert S. Frank wrote: > > I have a chance to buy a new TP 770 (91-AU) for a really good price. What > > My main interest is the 14" screen. I cant quite afford that screen in the > newer 770 E or ED versions, so I figured I buy this one, which has been > discontinued and really dropped in price. Just a few months ago, this was > the top of the line. Now, as you know, you're made to feel that it's old > technology. > > My biggest concerns with a buying a laptop...whether for $2,500, $3,500 or > $4,500 are quality and reliability (I'm a solo entrepreneur with no back-up There will always be something bigger and better on the horizon. The trick is to get a computer which is good enough for your needs, and not to pay so much for it that you'll start making comparisons to the next new thing to pop onto the market because the price is similar. (That is, unless you can afford to, like certain members of this list. :-) I've found the price-performance curve starts leveling out nicely at around the $2000 price mark. > MIS department to help me and no tolerance for being down for a week or > more), keyboard (I'm a touch typist), and monitor (this will be my one and > only business machine and I will be looking at it 8 to 12 hours a day). > > future (Zip drive, PC cards, etc.)? Am I doing myself a disservice by not > getting a Pentium II? Should I sacrifice screen size and other features and > get a TP600 with the 233 Pentium II? Just so you know, slight performance > advantages are not a big deal to me. Also, I am not what you would call a > "road warrior", so portability is not the biggest deal to me either. This > machine will basically be a desktop replacement, maybe going back and forth > from home to office each day (via a backpack I might add). If a big screen is really that important, and you're going to be using it mostly at work, have you considered getting a smaller screen or a PII model with a smaller screen, and buying a 17" or 19" monitor to use at work? A 14" screen looks absolutely miniscule after you've used a 17" or 19" monitor. If you're not that shy about synchronizing a notebook with a desktop, having the monitor would also make it easier to purchase a $500-$1000 desktop system in the near future which will be faster than your notebook, cheaper to upgrade, and which would serve as a backup should you need to send the 770 in for repair. The high-end notebooks are really designed for people who absolutely must take it all with them when they travel. I don't think you fit that profile, and have to wonder if you won't be better served by a nice desktop system and a minimal notebook to take some work home with you. I too tried to use a notebook as a desktop replacement because I liked the concept, not because I really needed it. For 5 years, I basically ended up owning machines which were more than a year behind desktops on the performance curve, and paid a sum total of about $4000 more than equivalent desktop systems for that privilege. I now own a nice desktop system, and am still using my TP701 (with a 486/75DX4 processor) when I occasionally need to take a computer on the road. I'm even considering selling the 701 since I've found most of my portable computing needs can be fulfilled by a pocket organizer type deal (HP 200LX in my case, though I'm considering switching to a Palmpilot), so maybe I'm not the best person to be asking. :-) -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 15:54:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA13966 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05685; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:53:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:52:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05596; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:52:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05565; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bp ([12.70.16.78]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980901195151.WBQI21955@bp>; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:51:51 +0000 Message-ID: <35EC5044.28E3@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 15:51:32 -0400 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Robert S. Frank" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 770 (Model 95491-AU) References: <006201bdd5c8$5b40f0c0$9c6d20a6@wtn6840.mcit.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Best model.I have one and it is a sweetheart. NO problems at all.Best voice dictation platform. Yes everything ZIP,DVD,HDD,CD,. Uses sdram memory.Be careful that you get the correct item when you add. Check out www.thinkpads.com for info on memory. Pull the trigger. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 16:13:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA14300 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06779; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:05:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:04:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06663; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chele.cais.com (rj@chele.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06651; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.com (8.8.8/CAIS8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA06438 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:03:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: chele.cais.com: rj owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:03:52 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: ThinkPad List Subject: Need NT4.0 Driver for PC Card for Shark 250 (somewhat OT) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: My appologies for the OT post but I've seen traffic on the list for the Shark 250 and I really need the help (and it is hooked up to a TP701 ). I need the NT4.0 driver for the pc card cable for the Shark 250. The manufacturer, Avatar, has gone Chaper 7 or whatever and therefor there is no tech support and the web/ftp site is gone/unavil. If anyone has the driver or has any ideas where I might find it or at least where to go looking for it please drop me a message directly to rj@cais.com. Thanks for you help. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 18:31:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA17125 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:31:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14292; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:29:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:28:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14139; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14127; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from midtower01 ([12.69.64.55]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980901222755.CSRY28209@midtower01> for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:27:55 +0000 From: "ATT Mail" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:17:12 -0400 Message-ID: <000201bdd5f6$448240e0$eb6dfea9@midtower01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 18:54:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA17496 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:53:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15641; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:51:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15516; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15487; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:51:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from diebold (user-38ldedd.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.185.173]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA30589 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980901185320.007c06e0@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jdiebold@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 18:53:20 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jean-Pierre Diebold Subject: [TP770ED] Odd things happening when in SUSPEND mode Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Two odd situations arise once in a while when using SUSPEND mode: 1- When I close the lid the unit goes into SUSPEND mode automatically which is normal. However, when I open the lid the system SOMETIMES does not wake up and I have to manually press FnF4 to get out of suspend mode. Does this happen to you guys? 2- When I get out of suspend mode, the mouse or trackpoint are both disabled and do not respond. I have to reboot. This has happened a couple of times in the last few days... Any ideas? Thanks From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 19:09:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA17795 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16812; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:08:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16695; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.gis.net (home.gis.net [208.218.130.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16683; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SYC760.connectingpoint.net (host71.209.244.237.gis.net [209.244.237.71]) by home.gis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8+djf) with SMTP id TAA25820 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002f01bdd5fc$48268200$4501a8c0@SYC760.connectingpoint.net> From: "Syclopse" To: Subject: TP760ED MWAVE and Linux Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:00:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01BDD5DA.BFF78B20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BDD5DA.BFF78B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hiya's New to the list here, but an avid Thinkpad owner. Anyways I work for an = IBM Business Partner and I service the Thinkpads daily before EZ-SERV gets them. I have access to all the = HMM's and Training Video's if anyone here needs help hardware wise. = Besides that, I am trying to get RedHat 5.0 to reconize my MWAV for = sound. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Any 760 parts, options forsale = let me know. =3D) John Kourafas Omnitech Inc. TP 360cse, 701C, 760ED owner. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BDD5DA.BFF78B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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New to the list here, but an avid = Thinkpad=20 owner. Anyways I work for an IBM Business Partner and I = service
the Thinkpads daily before EZ-SERV = gets them. I=20 have access to all the HMM's and Training Video's if anyone here needs = help=20 hardware wise. Besides that, I am trying to get RedHat 5.0 to reconize = my MWAV=20 for sound.
Any suggestions are greatly = appreciated. Any 760=20 parts, options forsale let me know. =3D)
 
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Omnitech Inc.
TP 360cse, 701C, 760ED=20 owner.
------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BDD5DA.BFF78B20-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 19:39:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA18296 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18252; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:39:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:38:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18134; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (smtp4.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18122; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA56034; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:26:47 -0400 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d03lms02.boulder.ibm.com [9.99.80.12]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA48270; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:36:32 -0400 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D03AU006 id 5030200035303133; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:47:42 -0400 From: Drew Gazey To: Cc: Subject: Re: TP760ED MWAVE and Linux Message-ID: <5030200035303133000002L032*@MHS> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:47:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Try this WWW site to get MWAVE sound running ... http://www.screamin.demon.co.uk/mwave.html "Wimpy's Linux Mwave Hack" Drew #include Please respond to syclopse@gis.net To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: TP760ED MWAVE and Linux Training Video's if anyone here needs help hardware wise. Besides that,= I am trying to get RedHat 5.0 to reconize my MWAV for sound. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Any 760 parts, options forsale= let me know. =3D) John Kourafas Omnitech Inc. TP 360cse, 701C, 760ED owner. -----------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- = From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 1 23:49:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA22012 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:49:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27241; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:47:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27130; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27110; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dante26.u.washington.edu (williams@dante26.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.100]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA12886 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 20:47:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante26.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id UAA78294 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 20:47:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 20:47:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Williams" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 770ED questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Resending... Hi, I am interested in the 770ED but I have several questions before I make my decision. I would like to hook up a MIDI cable to it. What would I need? Would the Selectabase 770 be the ideal? Or, is there a USB or PC Card solution? Same questions for gamepads and joysticks. I haven't read much about the Selectabase 770. Any comments? I read in a previous message that the hard drive may not be fast enough for video capture. Advice? Does it ship with Win 95 or 98? How easy is it to install NT4.0 (dual-boot)? What exactly is "3d sound?" Does it support Wave table audio? Any opinions on connecting mice? Microsoft wheel mouse versus IBM's trackpoint. Does it support 24-bit color on the LCD. I know that it has 4M of VRAM but there is conflicting information on the IBM web site that states it has true color; but the matrix document shows that only 18 bit color is supported (ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/thsmatrx.pdf). Which is it? Any recommended mail-order dealers? Any to avoid? Any news on the 770X? Latest 770? Any specifications? Thanks, John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 01:29:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA23542 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 01:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00861; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 01:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 01:27:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00734; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 01:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00721; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 01:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (dgoldman.vip.best.com [204.156.137.147]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with SMTP id WAA03296 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980901222513.009277e0@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 22:25:13 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: TP 770ED questions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:47 PM 9/1/98 -0700, J. Williams wrote: >Resending... > >Hi, I am interested in the 770ED but I have several questions before I >make my decision. > [SNIP] > >Any opinions on connecting mice? Microsoft wheel mouse versus IBM's >trackpoint. I use the IBM Trackpoint Mouse on three different desktop systems. Briefly, the mouse is a good mouse, but very overpriced given my experience with it. On the three different desktop systems I've used the mouse on, ZERO (0) of them acknowledged the trackpoint portion of the device or allowed it to work properly. The normal mouse portion works fine, but the little blue bump on the top between the buttons is a $30-$40 piece of USELESS plastic as far as I can tell. IBM tech support blames the problem on the different motherboards I've chosen (including a Dell Dimension XPS) rather than placing the blame on the IBM supplied driver. My advice is to get an assurance from IBM before you waste the extra money believing that the device will work on your system. -- /=================================================================\ | David Goldman | My business motto is: | | IVR@DGoldman.Com | Choose any two: [ ] Fast | | | [ ] Cheap | | Ask me for my PGP key. | [ ] Right | \=================================================================/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 03:37:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA25291 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05634; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:35:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:34:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05464; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucy.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05451; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seawesta-82.az.com (seawesta-82.az.com [204.201.18.82]) by lucy.az.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA04441 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 00:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809020729.AAA04441@lucy.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Wed, 02 Sep 98 00:50:20 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Discharge rate of Lithium Ion batteries? List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:26:30 -0400 (EDT), John Kim wrote: >On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > >> They [NiMH] last around a week > >More specifically, they discharge 5%-15% every day (usually closer to >15%). However, my 701's NiMH has held its charge for over a month. There >was some blurb on the newsgroups about the 701's NiMH being designed to >hold its charge on the shelf. But that is exclusive to the 701. Hmmmm... so I'm looking at losing say...20 minutes per day when it's not in use?? =\ Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 03:43:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA25387 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06081; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:39:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05945; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucy.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05931; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:38:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seawesta-82.az.com (seawesta-82.az.com [204.201.18.82]) by lucy.az.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA04805 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 00:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809020733.AAA04805@lucy.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Wed, 02 Sep 98 00:54:56 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 365XD hanging on boot up List-Unsubscribe: Hello everyone, I have a problem (again) with my 365XD. I have it setup with boot manager and the following options on the boot manager menu: Primary C: Windows 95 Primary C: (hidden) DOS 6.22 Logical D: OS/2 4.0 Now if I boot up on OS/2 no hangups what so ever. But when I boot up with Windows 95, I do occasionally get a lock up right as my opening wav is played (THX sound). Has anyone encountered this? And if so, what was the culpret? Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 08:04:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA27998 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19980; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:04:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:03:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19871; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:03:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from star.cirrus.com (star.cirrus.com [141.131.7.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19858; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:03:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ss563.corp.cirrus.com (ss563.corp.cirrus.com [141.131.8.55]) by star.cirrus.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA23509 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 05:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tbdc.cirrus.com (e450-005.tbdc.cirrus.com [198.90.179.20]) by ss563.corp.cirrus.com with SMTP id FAA26472 (8.7.5/IDA-1.6 for ); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 05:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bjonespc.tbdc.cirrus.com by tbdc.cirrus.com (SMI-8.6/Cirrus-2.1) id IAA08033; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:03:02 -0400 From: "Brian Jones" To: Subject: Unsubsribe Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:03:18 -0400 Message-ID: <000501bdd669$ac42a1c0$22b35ac6@bjonespc.tbdc.cirrus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 10:11:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA29743 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27304; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:04:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26844; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:04:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mhro1.mayo.edu (mhro1.mayo.edu [129.176.100.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26832; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:04:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fermat.mayo.edu by mhro1.mayo.edu with ESMTP; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:52:20 -0500 Received: from feynman.Mayo.EDU (feynman [129.176.212.47]) by fermat.mayo.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA23212 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:52:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from feynman by feynman.Mayo.EDU (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA09603; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:51:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:51:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "James P. Grenert" X-Sender: grenert@feynman To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: OS/2 FDISK not recognizing partition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Mayo Medical School MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: This is more OS/2 related, but I know there are a number of OS/2 folks on the list... I am trying to install Warp 3.0 on a logical D: drive on my Thinkpad 360PE (on an extended partition of the internal 540MB HD). The drive was created with Partition Magic, and I can see and use the drive in DOS and Win 3.1. However, when I try to install OS/2 using Advanced Installation, FDISK only sees a C: drive. It does not see the 1MB of free space before C: (for installing Boot Manager) and it does not see the 110MB of the D: drive. I know I could format C: and set everything up from within FDISK, but I REALLY don't want to reinstall my Win 3.1/DOS apps and data. Any help is greatly appreciated. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 13:36:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA03298 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:36:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08816; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:33:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:31:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08550; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:31:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.86]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08522; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #24133) with ESMTP id <01J1BTA5FRRS9CH34F@asu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:30:41 MST Received: from aztec.asu.edu (aztec2.asu.edu [198.60.132.11]) by smtp1.asu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA17976 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 1998 10:30:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by aztec.asu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17247; Wed, 02 Sep 1998 10:30:40 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 10:30:40 -0700 (MST) From: elizaw@aztec.asu.edu (ELIZA) Subject: TP 770,770E/ED - System Program Service Diskette (BIOS) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-to: elizaw@aztec.asu.edu Message-id: <9809021730.AA17247@aztec.asu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: ================= Begin forwarded message ================= From: techinfo@infomail.pc.ibm.com (IBM PC Company Technical Support) To: pc080612@raleigh.ibm.com (IBM PCCo Support Customer) Subject: TP 770,770E/ED - System Program Service Diskette (BIOS) Date: Wed, 02 Sep Your IBM Support Email Below is an article summary which matches your IBM support personal profile. To view the entire article, point your favorite web browser to the web address referenced at the conclusion of this article summary. DESCRIPTION The System Program Service Diskette (BIOS) has been updated to release 1.23. The System Program Service Diskette can update the system program stored in the ThinkPad system to fix problems, add new functions, or expand functions. The supported models are as follows: ThinkPad 770, 770E, 770E http://www.pc.ibm.com/support?page=DSHY-3P2MCB If you would like to unsubscribe from IBM's support email, you may reply to this message and type UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject of your reply, or you may modify your personal profile stored at http://www.pc.ibm.com/support by deselecting the 'I would be interested in receiving email related to my IBM system in the future' option. Please do not send other types of mail to this server. (C) IBM Corporation From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 14:30:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04399 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12226; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:22:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:21:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12070; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:21:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12056; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:20:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from default (user-37kbbmp.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.174.217]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA25145 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980831230948.007b6eb0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: elvislives@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:09:48 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Tue, 01 Sep 1998 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Please do not send the digest to elvislives@mindspring.com anymore Thanks, Elvis From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 14:31:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04410 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12859; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:29:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:29:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12747; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pike.sover.net (root@pike.sover.net [204.71.16.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12719; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:28:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from MYHOSTNAME (pm3a6.ben.sover.net [207.136.200.102]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA16378 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:28:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809021828.OAA16378@pike.sover.net> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 14:24:00 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Not a TP question, but I need ... X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.50 b50 List-Unsubscribe: I'm trying to set up an old 486 with Win 3.1 for a 10 year old niece, and need to locate a copy of Netscape with the dialup utilties. I've tried Download.com, shareware.com and other searches only to come up dialup utilites that don't work or are only for Win95. (The machine only has 8mb of ram which is why I wasn't trying to load OS2). Does anyone have an idea where I might old versions of Netscape? Side issue; She has used OS2 on my TP560 and wants to know "why is Windows so stupid!" _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 14:43:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04572 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:42:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14329; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:38:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:35:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13894; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tamro.com (ns.tamro.fi [194.188.150.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13825; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fw2.kolmi.tamro.com by tamro.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA15997; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:32:07 +0300 Message-Id: <199809021832.VAA15997@tamro.com> From: "Jyrki Richard Viksten" To: Subject: wav problem Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:33:47 +0300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello all! My tp701 gets stucked with wav sounds when I am conected to internet,(when I am not conected to internet its not a problem) and then I am not able to use programs where audio video is needed. Anyone has had same kinda problem before?I would be greatful for your comments! Jyrki Viksten From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 14:48:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04589 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14335; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:35:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13830; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from huygens.physics.mcgill.ca (huygens.physics.mcgill.ca [132.206.92.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13802; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from alban@localhost) by huygens.physics.mcgill.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) id OAA05434; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:35:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer X-Sender: alban@huygens.physics.mcgill.ca To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Not a TP question, but I need ... In-Reply-To: <199809021828.OAA16378@pike.sover.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE List-Unsubscribe: I know it sounds incredible, but you can find Netscape at=20 "http://www.netscape.com". They have a section with older ("archived")=20 versions. You probably want 2.02. Alban On Wed, 2 Sep 1998 letoured@sover.net wrote: > I'm trying to set up an old 486 with Win 3.1 for a 10 year old niece, an= d > need to locate a copy of Netscape with the dialup utilties.=20 >=20 > I've tried Download.com, shareware.com and other searches only to come up > dialup utilites that don't work or are only for Win95. (The machine only > has 8mb of ram which is why I wasn't trying to load OS2). >=20 > Does anyone have an idea where I might old versions of Netscape? >=20 >=20 >=20 > Side issue; She has used OS2 on my TP560 and wants to know "why is Window= s > so stupid!" >=20 >=20 > _____________ > letoured@sover.net >=20 A. Kellerbauer McGill University Nuclear Physics Montr=E9al (Qu=E9bec) UIN 8141789 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 14:51:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04690 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15340; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:44:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:43:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15145; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vex.net (vex.net [198.96.119.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15129; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:43:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (1344 bytes) by vex.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:43:16 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #3 built 1997-Oct-29) Received: from vex.net(198.96.119.193) via SMTP by vex.net, id smtpd03577a; Wed Sep 2 14:43:10 1998 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:43:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Golan Klinger To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Not a TP question, but I need ... In-Reply-To: <199809021828.OAA16378@pike.sover.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: letoured@sover.net wrote: > (The machine only has 8mb of ram which is why I wasn't trying to load > OS2). I ran OS/2 3.0 on a 486SX-33 with 8mb RAM and a 120mb hard disk and it worked just fine. :) > Does anyone have an idea where I might old versions of Netscape? Take a look at http://software.ntr.net/ - they have what you need. I found that location by going to Yahoo! and searching for +"windows 3.1" +dialer and it came up as the very first hit. Learning how to use a search engine will make your life a lot easier. Golan Klinger [falco@vex.net] For long you live and high you fly And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry Good, fast or cheap. And all you touch and all you see Pick two... Is all your life will ever be From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 15:30:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA05357 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18897; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:28:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18741; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.teleport.com (smtp4.teleport.com [192.108.254.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18711; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user2.teleport.com (usertest.teleport.com [192.108.254.19]) by smtp4.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA17235 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pccare@localhost) by user2.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA22105; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:27:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick West To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: FS: Dead Thinkpad 365X: $150.00 cash (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I saw this ad in a local buy and sell. I don't know the seller or the machine. Oh and when he gives his phone number the areacode is (503) Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 07:51:13 GMT From: John Fresk Newsgroups: pdx.forsale Subject: FS: Dead Thinkpad 365X: $150.00 cash Those who frequent this newsgroup may recognize this machine as one which was advertised on 8/24. You're right. Same machine. Same price. I bought this a week ago from the seller in the original post. I figured if it were the quick fix, I'd fix it. However, It needs a sytem board repair or replacement and I don't have the desire, knowledge or extra dough to pony up for one and install it. The plastic holder for the little system board battery is cracked, (Perhaps the result of an earlier attempt to "fix" it...) but that may not be the only problem with the system board. . So I'm selling it for what I bought it for. . I do have a little additional data on this Thinkpad, after some research and some minor diagnostics. All indications point to a system board problem. The AC adapter checks out fine, with a continuous 16.77 VDC output. The battery reads 5.18 VDC, suggesting that the battery is discharged (anything under 9.6 VDC) but not dead. It does come with an external floppy drive and is in good physical condition, as the original poster said. Is it less than a year old? Per the serial number, February of 1997. let's face it - if it were less than a year old, whoever had it before would have gotten it fixed under warranty, one would suppose. The original post follows: "Pentium 120 1.08 Gig hard drive 8 Meg RAM 11.3" DSTN display Charger / adapter Extra external floppy drive Less than one year old. Battery is new. Machine is in good physical condition." So drop me an e-mail at fresk@aol.com or call me at 762-0165 if interested. It's really a "caveat emptor" proposition, but the value of the parts alone should exceed $150.00 Thanks, John Fresk From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 16:25:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA06409 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:25:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22444; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:22:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:20:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22288; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:20:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sh1.ro.com (sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22269; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jeffj@localhost) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA14910 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:20:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:20:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Jackowski To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Not a TP question, but I need ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Golan Klinger wrote: > > (The machine only has 8mb of ram which is why I wasn't trying to load > > OS2). > > I ran OS/2 3.0 on a 486SX-33 with 8mb RAM and a 120mb hard disk > and it worked just fine. :) I once used an 80MHz 486 with 8MB RAM to run OS/2. With all the swapping, it took only a year and a half to kill the hard drive, but it worked until then. > > Does anyone have an idea where I might old versions of Netscape? I think you've got the answer. My favorite, of course, is the one that runs on OS/2. :-) You could even use WebExplorer -- it uses even less memory and can pull in the web pages and display them faster. You can even make DOS think its got 16MB of RAM, if that helps. > Take a look at http://software.ntr.net/ - they have what you need. > I found that location by going to Yahoo! and searching for +"windows 3.1" > +dialer and it came up as the very first hit. Learning how to use a search > engine will make your life a lot easier. Sounds like the first lesson for your niece (???). Maybe she could install OS/2 on the 486? Sounds like she may want to with such a dislike of Windows, especially with Win 3.1. Jeff Jackowski Unhappily running NT at work -- the only OS that can't do an alphabetical sort! (I tried on the desktop . . . ) http://ro.com/~jeff/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 16:27:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA06420 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:27:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22933; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:25:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:24:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22741; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mak.mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22678; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle (miracle.mak.com [207.86.232.103]) by mak.mak.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA25312 for <@mak.mak.com:THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu>; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:28:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA09360 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:13:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:13:29 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: wav problem In-Reply-To: <199809021832.VAA15997@tamro.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Jyrki Richard Viksten wrote: > Hello all! > My tp701 gets stucked with wav sounds when I am conected to internet,(when > I am not conected to internet its not a problem) and then I am not able to > use programs where audio video is needed. Anyone has had same kinda problem > before?I would be greatful for your comments! The TP701's sound system and built-in modem use the same DSP (kinda like MWAVE, but different - it boots internally independent of the OS so you don't have to jump through hoops installing drivers). If you're using the modem, the DSP sometimes does not have enough processing power left over to successfully emulate a Soundblaster. That's why you're having problems. Buy a PCMCIA or external modem. -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 20:09:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA10235 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:09:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03632; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:06:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03467; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (phr@netcom19.netcom.com [192.100.81.132]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03449; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:05:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom19.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id RAA20843 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:05:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199809030005.RAA20843@netcom19.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: linux pcmcia interrupt problems on 770 List-Unsubscribe: I have a megahertz pcmcia modem in my 770-32u and Linux cardmgr finds it correctly, but assigns it to irq 9 for some reason. Doing things like excluding irq 9 in pcmcia/config.opts doesn't help. Under Windows/DOS, the modem is on com2 which means it should be assigned to irq 3. Does anyone know if there's a way to manually set the irq? Needless to say, setserial doesn't help. Thanks for any advice. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 21:49:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA11677 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07260; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:48:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:47:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07148; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:47:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from setarnet.aw (jampow.setarnet.aw [206.48.100.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07125; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Thinkpad by setarnet.aw (8.8.8/SMI-SVR4) id VAA17455; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:42:45 +0400 (GMT) Message-ID: <35EDF516.5BD1@setarnet.aw> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 21:47:03 -0400 From: Ronald Tchong Reply-To: rtchong@setarnet.aw X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 22:34:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA12392 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09520; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:32:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09345; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fsp.fsp.com (fsp.fsp.com [157.134.205.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09066; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fsp.fsp.com (8.8.7/1.35) id CAA22098; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:28:25 GMT From: wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com (William J. Dodd) Message-Id: <199809030228.CAA22098@fsp.fsp.com> Subject: Thinkpad 360PE User's Guide To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad Mailing List) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:28:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: I purchased a Thinkpad 360PE, well used, this past weekend at a local computer fair. Unfortunately, there were no manuals with it. I have look at hundreds of web sites, including many of IBM's; I have spoken with individuals at two different IBM locations; and I have sent email to a friendly netizen who owns a 360PE. But I have not been able to find a copy of the 360PE User's Guide. (I did find the "Hardware Service Manual," but it's not the same thing.) Does anyone on the list have a copy of the 360PE User's Guide they would be willing to xerox for me? I would, of course, reimburse you for the duplication and postal expenses. According to something I saw on one of IBM's sites, it's a lengthy document (over 200 pages), but I just don't want to try to configure the machine without it. -- ===================| William J. Dodd |"Sometimes my brilliance astonishes even me." wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com | Dr. Who (Tom Baker) _Invisible Enemy_ ===================| From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 23:27:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA13102 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:27:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11810; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:25:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11698; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:25:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.gis.net (home.gis.net [208.218.130.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11658; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SYC760.connectingpoint.net (ThinkPad@216.41.31.210-ppp.gis.net [216.41.31.210] (may be forged)) by home.gis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8+djf) with SMTP id XAA10843 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01a601bdd6e9$5568d6a0$4501a8c0@SYC760.connectingpoint.net> From: "Syclopse" To: Subject: IBM Dock II, Dock II Display Shelf, Dock II CDROM, 1GB SCSI inside of Dock II Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:17:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A3_01BDD6C7.CB3AB460" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01A3_01BDD6C7.CB3AB460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just put my Docking station up on auction if any of you are looking to = dock your thinkpads.... 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------=_NextPart_000_01A3_01BDD6C7.CB3AB460-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 23:48:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA13329 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12703; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:47:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:46:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12598; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vex.net (vex.net [198.96.119.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12576; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:46:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (1916 bytes) by vex.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:46:10 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #3 built 1997-Oct-29) Received: from vex.net(198.96.119.193) via SMTP by vex.net, id smtpd08537a; Wed Sep 2 23:46:01 1998 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:46:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Golan Klinger To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Not a TP question, but I need ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Jeff Jackowski wrote: > On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Golan Klinger wrote: > > > > (The machine only has 8mb of ram which is why I wasn't trying to load > > > OS2). > > > > I ran OS/2 3.0 on a 486SX-33 with 8mb RAM and a 120mb hard disk > > and it worked just fine. :) > > I once used an 80MHz 486 with 8MB RAM to run OS/2. With all the > swapping, it took only a year and a half to kill the hard drive, but > it worked until then. Weird. I didn't experience a great deal of problems with only 8mb and I was running WebEx and a command line telnet. Without the GUI, things would be even faster but the original poster wanted a GUI web browser so that's out. > > Take a look at http://software.ntr.net/ - they have what you need. > > I found that location by going to Yahoo! and searching for +"windows 3.1" > > +dialer and it came up as the very first hit. Learning how to use a search > > engine will make your life a lot easier. > > Sounds like the first lesson for your niece (???). You're confusing me with the original poster. You have to watch those quotes. Golan Klinger [falco@vex.net] For long you live and high you fly And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry Good, fast or cheap. And all you touch and all you see Pick two... Is all your life will ever be From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 2 23:55:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA13483 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:55:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13229; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:54:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13089; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vex.net (vex.net [198.96.119.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13069; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:54:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (954 bytes) by vex.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:54:10 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #3 built 1997-Oct-29) Received: from vex.net(198.96.119.193) via SMTP by vex.net, id smtpd09034a; Wed Sep 2 23:54:01 1998 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:54:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Golan Klinger To: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Helpful suggestion. In-Reply-To: <199809030228.CAA22098@fsp.fsp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I'm not sure who the listowner is but it might help to add a Reply-To: field for this list. Saves a lot of header editing and prevents repeat posts. Golan Klinger [falco@vex.net] For long you live and high you fly And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry Good, fast or cheap. And all you touch and all you see Pick two... Is all your life will ever be From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 00:02:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA13616 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13802; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:00:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13609; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13589; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA39968; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:43:57 -0400 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d03lms02.boulder.ibm.com [9.99.80.12]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA53862; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:58:29 -0400 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D03AU006 id 5030200035358302; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:09:34 -0400 From: Drew Gazey To: Cc: Subject: Re: Thinkpad 360PE User's Guide Message-ID: <5030200035358302000002L022*@MHS> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:09:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: IBM Publications group... 1-800-879-2755 360PE User's Guide ... p/n 30H1645 Drew. #include Subject: Thinkpad 360PE User's Guide I purchased a Thinkpad 360PE, well used, this past weekend at a local computer fair. Unfortunately, there were no manuals with it. I have look at hundreds of web sites, including many of IBM's; I have spoken with individuals at two different IBM locations; and I have sent= email to a friendly netizen who owns a 360PE. But I have not been able= to find a copy of the 360PE User's Guide. (I did find the "Hardware Servi= ce Manual," but it's not the same thing.) Does anyone on the list have a copy of the 360PE User's Guide they woul= d be willing to xerox for me? I would, of course, reimburse you for the duplication and postal expenses. According to something I saw on one o= f IBM's sites, it's a lengthy document (over 200 pages), but I just don't= want to try to configure the machine without it. -- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D| William J. Dodd |"Sometimes my brilliance astonishes even me." wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com | Dr. Who (Tom Baker) _Invisible Enemy_ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D| = From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 00:15:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA13793 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14715; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:12:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14530; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14510; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:12:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.sbs.co.at (www.sbs.co.at [195.75.3.18]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA126714; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 04:12:41 GMT Received: by www.sbs.co.at(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id C1256674.001705B5 ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:11:27 +0200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SBS@WEB From: "Bernd Meierhofer" To: "James P. Grenert" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:27:31 +0200 Subject: Re: OS/2 FDISK not recognizing partition Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I think the command fdisk /newmbr may solve this problem Regards, Bernd "James P. Grenert" on 02.09.98 15:51:13 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: (bcc: Bernd Meierhofer/SBS/AT) Subject: OS/2 FDISK not recognizing partition This is more OS/2 related, but I know there are a number of OS/2 folks on the list... I am trying to install Warp 3.0 on a logical D: drive on my Thinkpad 360PE (on an extended partition of the internal 540MB HD). The drive was created with Partition Magic, and I can see and use the drive in DOS and Win 3.1. However, when I try to install OS/2 using Advanced Installation, FDISK only sees a C: drive. It does not see the 1MB of free space before C: (for installing Boot Manager) and it does not see the 110MB of the D: drive. I know I could format C: and set everything up from within FDISK, but I REALLY don't want to reinstall my Win 3.1/DOS apps and data. Any help is greatly appreciated. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 00:15:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA13803 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:15:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14725; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:12:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14558; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14521; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.sbs.co.at (www.sbs.co.at [195.75.3.18]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA174638; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 04:12:45 GMT Received: by www.sbs.co.at(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id C1256674.001708B9 ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:11:35 +0200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SBS@WEB From: "Bernd Meierhofer" To: Jean-Pierre Diebold cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:43:55 +0200 Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Odd things happening when in SUSPEND mode Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: >2- When I get out of suspend mode, the mouse or trackpoint are both >disabled and do not respond. I have to reboot. This has happened a couple >of times in the last few days... Any ideas? I think pressing the FnF3 keys will solve the mouse problem without any restart. Regards, Bernd Jean-Pierre Diebold on 02.09.98 00:53:20 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu cc: (bcc: Bernd Meierhofer/SBS/AT) Subject: [TP770ED] Odd things happening when in SUSPEND mode Two odd situations arise once in a while when using SUSPEND mode: 1- When I close the lid the unit goes into SUSPEND mode automatically which is normal. However, when I open the lid the system SOMETIMES does not wake up and I have to manually press FnF4 to get out of suspend mode. Does this happen to you guys? 2- When I get out of suspend mode, the mouse or trackpoint are both disabled and do not respond. I have to reboot. This has happened a couple of times in the last few days... Any ideas? Thanks From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 02:19:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA15670 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:19:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19227; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:16:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19066; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:16:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19053; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:16:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA22156; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:16:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809030616.BAA22156@rgate2.ricochet.net> X-Sender: geary@bolero.rahul.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 23:12:36 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Geary Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Tue, 01 Sep 1998 Cc: "David W. Taylor" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >From: "David W. Taylor" >To: "Rob Bell" , >Subject: Re: Storing Laptop While Suspended >Message-Id: <000801bdd500$3f578ae0$fe769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> > >* I am using a single large NTFS partition. Do I need to create a FAT >partition and use a hibernation file? Hi David, I don't have answers to your other questions, but this one is easy. If you want to use hibernation, then you need a FAT partition for the hibernation file. It won't go on an NTFS partition. I've got a FAT16 partition just large enough for the hibernation file, and the rest of the drive is NTFS. I booted from a DOS floppy once and ran the program to create the hibernation file. (I forget the name, but it's the one that was in the original Win95 autoexec.) If you don't need to use hibernation, then you don't need a FAT partition at all. -Mike http://www.geary.com mailto:mg@mg.to ham:WJ6V From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 02:23:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA15708 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19671; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:21:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19537; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19507; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:21:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA22515; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:21:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809030621.BAA22515@rgate2.ricochet.net> X-Sender: geary@bolero.rahul.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 23:21:28 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Geary Subject: Re: Recommendations on carrying cases for TP770ED? Cc: Ken In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 17:23:11 -0400 >From: Ken >To: Thinkpad >Subject: Recommendations on carrying cases for TP770ED? >Message-Id: <199808282123.RAA28812@mail.binghamton.edu> > >I still haven't gotten a case for my 770ED. I had selected the Targus air >universal (model CUN1A), but their web page lies about the computer >compatibility dimensions. The insert that came with the case listed the >true dimensions, which, indeed, were just a bit too small for the 770ED. > >Anyway, since I'm shopping again, I wondered if people have had good or bad >experiences with certain cases, or certain case-making companies in general. I don't know what is a good case, but I can tell you what is a *bad* one: the Port cases with the "sling" suspension. My ThinkPad 600 has two big scratches in its top cover, thanks to the idiotic design of the Port sling case. There is *nothing* separating the two hard plastic buckles from the ThinkPad case, so all it takes is a little pressure on the case and you've got scratches. As long as you keep the case standing on end, you're OK, but set it down flat with a few heavy items in the side pouch and then go for a drive: presto! instant scratches! At least the inside of the computer is OK... -Mike http://www.geary.com mailto:mg@mg.to ham:WJ6V From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 02:24:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA15721 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19937; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:22:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19686; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:22:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19627; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (mg128-091.ricochet.net [204.179.128.91]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA02201; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003001bdd703$4311ddc0$0201a8c0@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: , "Michael Geary" Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Tue, 01 Sep 1998 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:22:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >If you don't need to use hibernation, then you don't need a FAT partition >at all. > >-Mike Yup, that seems to be my situation. Thanks. David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 02:30:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA15841 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:30:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20572; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:29:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:29:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20454; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:29:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20441; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA23151; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:28:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809030628.BAA23151@rgate2.ricochet.net> X-Sender: geary@bolero.rahul.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 23:28:51 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Geary Subject: Re: APM ? Win98 & 701C Cc: Bill Bryan In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 12:49:38 -0400 >From: Bill Bryan >To: >Subject: APM ? Win98 & 701C >Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980822124938.00819870@rust.net> > > I have an upgraded 701C to a 586 processor and 36Mb ram. Win98 loaded >fine but the unit doesn't seem to wake-up out of suspend mode if it's been >more than a few minutes. The screen lights up with a black background. I >also get the little blue and white clock face for a second. If I leave the >unit in this mode the win98 "Powering down in 15 seconds" message comes up. > If I cancel this message all is normal and the computer is ready to go. >If I turn off the Advanced Power Management, all's well also. I wanted the >new APM in Win98 for fully powering down the PCMCIA cards to save battery >power during suspend. Any thoughts? Getting to you belatedly on this... My 701C (stock 486 processor) does something fairly similar: if it's in suspend for a long time, when I open it up, I get a black screen with a blinking text-mode-style cursor and the clock face. It just stays there and doesn't give the "powering down in 15 seconds" message. With some tinkering, I found I could wake it up pretty much all the time if I hit Ctrl-Alt-Del and then hit the Esc key a few times (maybe once is all it needs). Go figure... -Mike http://www.geary.com mailto:mg@mg.to ham:WJ6V From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 09:33:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA20583 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:33:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14158; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:31:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13944; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:31:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fsp.fsp.com (fsp.fsp.com [157.134.205.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13834; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fsp.fsp.com (8.8.7/1.35) id NAA23740; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:29:34 GMT From: wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com (William J. Dodd) Message-Id: <199809031329.NAA23740@fsp.fsp.com> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 360PE User's Guide To: dgazey@ca.ibm.com (Drew Gazey) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <5030200035358302000002L022*@MHS> from "Drew Gazey" at Sep 3, 98 00:09:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:09:34 -0400 , Drew Gazey wrote: > IBM Publications group... 1-800-879-2755 > > 360PE User's Guide ... p/n 30H1645 Thanks. However, I have already called this number and they told me the publication was NOT available through them. Then they transferred me to the IBM help center, 1-800-772-2227; I was on the line with the help center technician about fifteen minutes, most of which time he was away from the phone trying to find the manual. He called the IBM national parts center and said even THEY don't have it and that he cannot help me any further. So I must rely on the kindness of some 360PE owner. -- ===================| William J. Dodd |"Sometimes my brilliance astonishes even me." wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com | Dr. Who (Tom Baker) _Invisible Enemy_ ===================| From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 09:45:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA20750 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15264; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:44:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:43:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15109; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15097; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA24222; Thu, 3 Sep 98 09:43:10 EDT Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <35EE9CEE.604CEC38@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 09:43:10 -0400 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Geary Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Ken Subject: Re: Recommendations on carrying cases for TP770ED? References: <199809030621.BAA22515@rgate2.ricochet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Michael Geary wrote: > I don't know what is a good case, but I can tell you what is a *bad* one: > the Port cases with the "sling" suspension. My ThinkPad 600 has two big > scratches in its top cover, thanks to the idiotic design of the Port sling > case. There is *nothing* separating the two hard plastic buckles from the > ThinkPad case, so all it takes is a little pressure on the case and you've > got scratches. As long as you keep the case standing on end, you're OK, but > set it down flat with a few heavy items in the side pouch and then go for a > drive: presto! instant scratches! Be careful. Not all Port cases are the same. The ThinkPad Sport case by Port has no buckles of any kind that can scratch your ThinkPad. It only has a velcro/elastic connector and it loads differently from most laptop cases (it doesn't open up flat -- you have to slide the laptop out to use it). --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 10:19:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21184 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:19:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17476; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:17:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:14:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17150; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mhro1.mayo.edu (mhro1.mayo.edu [129.176.100.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17138; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:14:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fermat.mayo.edu by mhro1.mayo.edu with ESMTP; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:13:50 -0500 Received: from feynman.Mayo.EDU (feynman [129.176.212.47]) by fermat.mayo.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA16199; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:13:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from feynman by feynman.Mayo.EDU (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA05240; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:12:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:12:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "James P. Grenert" X-Sender: grenert@feynman To: Bernd Meierhofer cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: OS/2 FDISK not recognizing partition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Mayo Medical School MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Bernd Meierhofer wrote: > I think the command fdisk /newmbr may solve this problem > Since this is FDISK run from within the OS/2 installation, I don't have any control over command modifiers. A little more information to clarify my problem: I used Partition Magic to shrink C: down to ~400MB, moved it up 1MB to put in Boot Manager, and then I created an extended partition with a ~100MB logical D: drive. However, when I run the OS/2 Advanced Installation, FDISK only shows a C: drive of 513MB and nothing else. This is especially strange to me because I shrunk C: down to about 400MB with Partition Magic. As I said, the FDISK program from PCDOS sees the D: partition, and Windows 3.1 sees it as well. It is only the FDISK program in the OS/2 install software which does not show the D: drive (and thinks that the whole 540MB drive is C:). Someone suggested that I had exceeded the 1024 cylinder limit. I thought that might be the problem, so I made D: about 30MB smaller, and it still wouldn't show that the D: drive existed. Also, PQMagic showed that D: only extended until about the 500th cylinder. So, I don't think I've exceeded the 1024 cylinder limit. I may try shrinking the disk some more just to make sure. Thanks again for any help. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 11:52:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA22532 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:52:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23658; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:49:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23451; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23433; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28210; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:48:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809031548.KAA28210@rgate2.ricochet.net> X-Sender: geary@bolero.rahul.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:48:50 -0700 To: I Lee Hetherington From: Michael Geary Subject: Re: Recommendations on carrying cases for TP770ED? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Ken In-Reply-To: <35EE9CEE.604CEC38@sls.lcs.mit.edu> References: <199809030621.BAA22515@rgate2.ricochet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I wrote: >> I don't know what is a good case, but I can tell you what is a *bad* one: >> the Port cases with the "sling" suspension. My ThinkPad 600 has two big >> scratches in its top cover, thanks to the idiotic design of the Port sling >> case. There is *nothing* separating the two hard plastic buckles from the >> ThinkPad case, so all it takes is a little pressure on the case and you've >> got scratches. As long as you keep the case standing on end, you're OK, but >> set it down flat with a few heavy items in the side pouch and then go for a >> drive: presto! instant scratches! I Lee Hetherington wrote: >Be careful. Not all Port cases are the same. The ThinkPad Sport case by Port >has no buckles of any kind that can scratch your ThinkPad. It only has a >velcro/elastic connector and it loads differently from most laptop cases (it >doesn't open up flat -- you have to slide the laptop out to use it). Good point! My comments apply only to the Port sling cases that use buckles to fasten the sling and have nothing separating the buckles from the computer. -Mike http://www.geary.com mailto:mg@mg.to ham:WJ6V From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 13:10:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA24231 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28816; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:09:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:07:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28586; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from datasrv3.cso.uiuc.edu (lgushee@datasrv3.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28559; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from lgushee@localhost) by datasrv3.cso.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18072; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:06:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809031706.MAA18072@datasrv3.cso.uiuc.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer for OS/2 (Green Edition Ver 2.5) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:12:45 -0600 From: Lawrence Gushee Reply-To: Lawrence Gushee Subject: Cirrus Logic 56K PCMCIA card for TP701? List-Unsubscribe: Back on the list after a hiatus. TP701CS with 24megs, running OS/2 Warp 3= and a whole bunch of other obselete software. Getting -- understandably -- tired of 14.4 downloading and interested in = buying a PCMCIA card that will work with the 701. Locally, there's a good = deal (ca. $70) on a Cirrus Logic x2 56K card. Any experiences, good or bad with this= card? Larry Gushee From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 14:32:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA25632 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:32:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04864; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:29:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04587; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (root@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04490; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cia-g.com (gup-051-dpm2.cia-g.com [207.66.82.131]) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23682; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:27:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <35EEDF92.BF3597F@cia-g.com> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:27:30 -0600 From: Ray Bayles Organization: Four Corners Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lawrence Gushee , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Cirrus Logic 56K PCMCIA card for TP701? References: <199809031706.MAA18072@datasrv3.cso.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Good card... There is also a Xircom 56K at www.onsale.com/computers.htm comes with no manuals but info available on line... runs for $64 to $94 depending on the bid day... I got mine for $69 and it runs fine... has connections for cell phone and Internet as well... installed easily... They also periodically have the Megahertz XJ4288 and XJ3288 which are 28.8 upgradable to 33.6 for about $25... I don't see much difference between them and the 56 K most of the time... and they come with complete manuals and registration... they are refurbished by 3Com and come in the original box... www.egghead.com and www.surplusdirect.com also have some decent ones for time to time for $45 to $75... I got a great Zoom dual modem v.90/ 56K that works on both MacIntosh and Thinkpad... it is my favorite modem... Ray From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 14:44:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA25791 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06647; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:40:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06491; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06459; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:40:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (185.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.185]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id OAA10810 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:40:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35EEE319.AAD345F2@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:42:33 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: 128meg parts for 770 & 600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Gentlemen: The 128meg Part is available for the ThinkPad 770 and 600 here's how it works.. 770ED will show 298megs with two of these parts.. (128+128+32=288 * 1024 = 294 + (apparently) the 4meg of video + 298megs) win95 and win98 both will show 288megs, winNT boots wonderfully with 288megs..!! :-) the 770-1AU will only show and use 256megs.. the 32megs on the planar board is mapped out.. i did not have time before shipping the last two 128meg parts to germany to verify that: 128 + 64 + 32 (on the planar board) will yeild 224megs.. i don't have a 600 to check out the 128meg DIMM's -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770ED-5AU, 770-1AU, 760ED, 701C(4), 755CE, 750C, IBM WorkPad From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 14:45:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA25810 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06845; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:43:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06710; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06697; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:43:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (185.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.185]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id OAA11677; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:43:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35EEE3B4.DDF2906D@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:45:08 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lawrence Gushee CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Cirrus Logic 56K PCMCIA card for TP701? References: <199809031706.MAA18072@datasrv3.cso.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Larry.. you'll need the OS/2 drivers for it.. better be sure that you can get them.. otherwise, i have several ISA cirrus logic modems i use from time to time and they work fine.. you will have some difficulty turning off the internal TP modem.. Lawrence Gushee wrote: > Back on the list after a hiatus. TP701CS with 24megs, running OS/2 Warp 3 > and a whole bunch of other obselete software. > Getting -- understandably -- tired of 14.4 downloading and interested in > buying a PCMCIA card that will work with the 701. Locally, there's a good deal (ca. > $70) on a Cirrus Logic x2 56K card. Any experiences, good or bad with this card? > Larry Gushee -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770ED-5AU, 770-1AU, 760ED, 701C(4), 755CE, 750C, IBM WorkPad From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 14:53:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA25944 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:53:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07842; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:51:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07720; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07693; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:51:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (185.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.185]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id OAA14385; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35EEE58C.B2A80705@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:53:00 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James P. Grenert" CC: Bernd Meierhofer , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: OS/2 FDISK not recognizing partition References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: James.. this may not be a help, BUT.. :-) i just put the original 701 files on a 3.2gig drive for a fellow.. (i must note here that the 701 runs win 3.11 fast..!!) since i always check out HDD's and i do a bunch at a time, i use win95B and fat32 to test them.. i leave one fat32 partition.. the whole HDD.. (up to and including the 8.1gig).. SO, how does this impact you..?? since this fellow wanted the original 701 preload, i had to make fat16 partitions.. a bunch of them.. i used pq magic.. and when i was done, i copied the preload and tried to test it in a 701.. NO GO.. workee not.. :-( I have NO IDEA what or why PQ Magic and PCDOS 6.3 do not seem to like each other.. or maybe it was win95B and fat32 doing something.. the point is.. i had the same (sort of) problem with PQM and PCDOS 6.3.. I finally just deleted the partition info and started from new, using PCDOS 6.3 load diskettes to do it all, THEN i copied the 701 preload and all was fine.. I hope this clears up something.. :-)) James P. Grenert wrote: > On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Bernd Meierhofer wrote: > > I think the command fdisk /newmbr may solve this problem > > > Since this is FDISK run from within the OS/2 installation, I don't have > any control over command modifiers. > > A little more information to clarify my problem: > I used Partition Magic to shrink C: down to ~400MB, moved it up 1MB to put > in Boot Manager, and then I created an extended partition with a ~100MB > logical D: drive. However, when I run the OS/2 Advanced Installation, > FDISK only shows a C: drive of 513MB and nothing else. This is especially > strange to me because I shrunk C: down to about 400MB with Partition > Magic. As I said, the FDISK program from PCDOS sees the D: partition, and > Windows 3.1 sees it as well. It is only the FDISK program in the OS/2 > install software which does not show the D: drive (and thinks that the > whole 540MB drive is C:). > > Someone suggested that I had exceeded the 1024 cylinder limit. I thought > that might be the problem, so I made D: about 30MB smaller, and it still > wouldn't show that the D: drive existed. Also, PQMagic showed that D: > only extended until about the 500th cylinder. So, I don't think I've > exceeded the 1024 cylinder limit. I may try shrinking the disk some more > just to make sure. > > Thanks again for any help. > J. P. Grenert > grenert@mayo.edu -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770ED-5AU, 770-1AU, 760ED, 701C(4), 755CE, 750C, IBM WorkPad From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 15:02:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA26101 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:02:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08859; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:01:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:00:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08715; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:00:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08698; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (185.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.185]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id PAA17557; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35EEE7B3.91087C12@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:02:11 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Goldman CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 770ED questions References: <3.0.5.32.19980901222513.009277e0@shell9.ba.best.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: David.. i have TWO IBM keyboards with trackpoints.. on two different dest type machines.. one is an ASUS P2B-LS motherboard and the other is some generic thing (but fast).. both use award bios.. both see and seem to support the trackpoint FINE..!! i would bet that it IS your motherboard OR the IBM driver.. i use a generic driver found within win9x.. :-) David Goldman wrote: > At 08:47 PM 9/1/98 -0700, J. Williams wrote: > >Resending... > > > >Hi, I am interested in the 770ED but I have several questions before I > >make my decision. > > > > [SNIP] > > > > >Any opinions on connecting mice? Microsoft wheel mouse versus IBM's > >trackpoint. > > I use the IBM Trackpoint Mouse on three different desktop systems. > Briefly, the mouse is a good mouse, but very overpriced given my > experience with it. > > On the three different desktop systems I've used the mouse on, ZERO (0) > of them acknowledged the trackpoint portion of the device or allowed it > to work properly. The normal mouse portion works fine, but the little > blue bump on the top between the buttons is a $30-$40 piece of USELESS > plastic as far as I can tell. > > IBM tech support blames the problem on the different motherboards I've > chosen (including a Dell Dimension XPS) rather than placing the blame > on the IBM supplied driver. > > My advice is to get an assurance from IBM before you waste the extra > money believing that the device will work on your system. > > -- > /=================================================================\ > | David Goldman | My business motto is: | > | IVR@DGoldman.Com | Choose any two: [ ] Fast | > | | [ ] Cheap | > | Ask me for my PGP key. | [ ] Right | > \=================================================================/ -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770ED-5AU, 770-1AU, 760ED, 701C(4), 755CE, 750C, IBM WorkPad From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 15:26:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA26492 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:26:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10378; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:24:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10237; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10225; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (185.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.185]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id PAA26155; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:24:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35EEED4B.5281E0FF@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:26:03 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Williams" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 770ED questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Mr. Williams.. prologue: the next generation TP (770XD or 775??) should announce soon.. very soon.. it is expected to have a P-II, 300mhz cpu, a 13.7TFT display (yes, smaller!) AND (hopefully) the 100mhz buss (which means it will also have the intel BX chipset)... now, it has not been announced, yet, and the 100mhz buss is a TRY TO DO IT thing in the time allowed before announcement.. (this IS gossip) now, for the meat FWIW... J. Williams wrote: > Resending... > > Hi, I am interested in the 770ED but I have several questions before I > make my decision. > great machine.. supports UP TO 288megs of memory, as of last week.. > I would like to hook up a MIDI cable to it. What would I need? Would the > Selectabase 770 be the ideal? Or, is there a USB or PC Card solution? > selectabase has the midi/joystick port..USB would be better.. i don't do many games, so i'm not up to date on devices for game/music USB, et al., > Same questions for gamepads and joysticks. > > I haven't read much about the Selectabase 770. Any comments? > nice unit.. cost is about $200..i would try for the above USB device.. > I read in a previous message that the hard drive may not be fast enough > for video capture. Advice? > the 8.1gig is one of the FASTEST notebook drives available..it all depends upon how many frames per second you want to capture.. > Does it ship with Win 95 or 98? How easy is it to install NT4.0 > (dual-boot)? > i have not done a dual boot, but i HAVE done win95B, win98 (several times) and NT4 with SP3..don't use NT, i was just trying it.. > What exactly is "3d sound?" Does it support Wave table audio? > i don't really know, but the sound FWIW is much better than on earlier TP's.. > Any opinions on connecting mice? Microsoft wheel mouse versus IBM's > trackpoint. > the trackpoint is fine..anyplace.. my finger, DOES tend to get tired on occasion.. on the keyboards for my desk type systems.. the 770 has a suporior trackpoint... > Does it support 24-bit color on the LCD. I know that it has 4M of VRAM but > there is conflicting information on the IBM web site that states it has > true color; but the matrix document shows that only 18 bit color is > supported (ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/thsmatrx.pdf). Which > is it? > not sure.. BUT, it does not complain when i turn on the 24bit color..and the color is super on the display.. > Any recommended mail-order dealers? Any to avoid? > anyplace that you can get a good deal..see notes "prologue" above.. :-) > Any news on the 770X? Latest 770? Any specifications? > ditto.. see above.. > Thanks, John -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770ED-5AU, 770-1AU, 760ED, 701C(4), 755CE, 750C, IBM WorkPad From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 15:59:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA27156 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12467; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:54:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12320; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12306; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:54:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (185.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.185]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id PAA07716 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35EEF46F.E5F0CB37@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:56:31 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: 128meg SDRAM DIMM for 770 & 600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Gentlemen: The 128meg Part is available for the ThinkPad 770 and 600 here's how it works.. 770ED will show 298megs with two of these parts.. (128+128+32=288 * 1024 = 294 + (apparently) the 4meg of video + 298megs) win95 and win98 both will show 288megs, winNT boots wonderfully with 288megs..!! :-) the 770-1AU will only show and use 256megs.. the 32megs on the planar board is mapped out.. i did not have time before shipping the last two 128meg parts to germany to verify that: 128 + 64 + 32 (on the planar board) will yeild 224megs.. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770ED-5AU, 770-1AU, 760ED, 701C(4), 755CE, 750C, IBM WorkPad From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 16:01:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA27240 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12918; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:59:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:58:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12612; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12599; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uxledkvk (ppp36.net21.binghamton.edu [128.226.21.36]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA04451; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809031957.PAA04451@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:57:38 -0400 To: Michael Geary , I Lee Hetherington From: Ken Subject: Which Port cases scratch, which ones don't? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199809031548.KAA28210@rgate2.ricochet.net> References: <35EE9CEE.604CEC38@sls.lcs.mit.edu> <199809030621.BAA22515@rgate2.ricochet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:48 AM 9/3/98 -0700, Michael Geary wrote: >>> I don't know what is a good case, but I can tell you what is a *bad* one: >>> the Port cases with the "sling" suspension. My ThinkPad 600 has two big >>> scratches in its top cover, thanks to the idiotic design of the Port sling >I Lee Hetherington wrote: >>Be careful. Not all Port cases are the same. The ThinkPad Sport case by >Port >>has no buckles of any kind that can scratch your ThinkPad. It only has a Michael Geary wrote: >Good point! My comments apply only to the Port sling cases that use buckles >to fasten the sling and have nothing separating the buckles from the computer. So, how can I figure out which of the models have this problem? From looking on the web, it seems impossible to tell. They just all say, "has SafePORT Sling Suspension System." Shopping on the web for a carrying case really sucks, by the way. Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 16:05:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA27337 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13389; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:03:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:02:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13254; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:02:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13233; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:02:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uxledkvk (ppp36.net21.binghamton.edu [128.226.21.36]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA07305; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809032002.QAA07305@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 16:02:07 -0400 To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , ThinkPad List From: Ken Subject: How does 770ED memory layout really work? In-Reply-To: <35EEF46F.E5F0CB37@icanect.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Bill Morrow wrote: >The 128meg Part is available for the ThinkPad 770 and 600 >770ED will show 298megs with two of these parts.. >(128+128+32=288 * 1024 = 294 + (apparently) the 4meg of video + 298megs) Hey, on this subject, when I bought my 770ED, and ordered an extra 64MB, I was surprised when I installed the 64MB to find that one of the two memory expansion slots was already filled. I'd assumed there was 64MB in the machine WITHOUT filling any expansion slots. Is it actually that the machine has 32MB in the machine, plus comes with 32MB taking up one of the two expansion slots, and you have to get rid of 32MB in order to install more than one memory card? Also, is there any problem with having memory cards of two different sizes in the machine? I.e. If I bought a new 128MB card, could I put it in there to supplement the 64MB card? Thanks, Ken kenzo@free-music.com http://free-music.com/ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 16:09:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA27402 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:09:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14010; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:07:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:06:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13833; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:06:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm02sm.pmm.mci.net (pm02sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.151]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13696; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tpad (usr31-dialup19.mix2.Boston.mci.net) by PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27034) with SMTP id <0EYQ00NRE54QLE@PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:05:17 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 16:09:47 -0400 From: Mike Wenczel Subject: Re: TP 770ED questions To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <001e01bdd776$ce7181e0$934a37a6@tpad> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Priority: 3 List-Unsubscribe: <> I thought the 770ED used the BX chipset. If not, what does it use? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 16:40:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA28005 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15825; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:38:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:37:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15715; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15703; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (185.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.185]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id QAA24329; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:36:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35EEFE62.EC3570D9@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 16:38:58 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Wenczel CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 770ED questions References: <001e01bdd776$ce7181e0$934a37a6@tpad> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Mike.. you're right.. my only excuse is one of my birds was doing the thinking.. :-) Mike Wenczel wrote: > > < very > soon.. it is expected to have a P-II, 300mhz cpu, a 13.7TFT display (yes, > smaller!) AND (hopefully) the 100mhz buss (which means it will also have the > intel BX chipset)...>> > > I thought the 770ED used the BX chipset. If not, what does it use? -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770ED-5AU, 770-1AU, 760ED, 701C(4), 755CE, 750C, IBM WorkPad From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 16:50:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA28188 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:50:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16632; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:48:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:48:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16542; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16518; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:47:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (185.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.185]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id QAA28725; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:47:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35EF00ED.2C7DA2C5@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 16:49:49 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: How does 770ED memory layout really work? References: <199809032002.QAA07305@mail.binghamton.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ken.. Ken wrote: > > Bill Morrow wrote: > >The 128meg Part is available for the ThinkPad 770 and 600 > >770ED will show 298megs with two of these parts.. > >(128+128+32=288 * 1024 = 294 + (apparently) the 4meg of video + 298megs) > > Hey, on this subject, when I bought my 770ED, and ordered an extra 64MB, I > was surprised when I installed the 64MB to find that one of the two memory > expansion slots was already filled. I'd assumed there was 64MB in the > machine WITHOUT filling any expansion slots. Is it actually that the > machine has 32MB in the machine, plus comes with 32MB taking up one of the > two expansion slots, and you have to get rid of 32MB in order to install > more than one memory card? yes.. > > Also, is there any problem with having memory cards of two different sizes > in the machine? I.e. If I bought a new 128MB card, could I put it in there > to supplement the 64MB card? no it has always been the practice of IBM (and i suppose others) to add a memory upgrade rather than re-design the planar board when specing more memory on a machine.. no problem having two different 'size' memory upgrades on any thinkpad that i can recall.. i just tried that with these new 128meg parts and a 64meg part.. even on the 700 you could use two DRAM cards.. > > Thanks, > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com > http://free-music.com/ken -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770ED-5AU, 770-1AU, 760ED, 701C(4), 755CE, 750C, IBM WorkPad From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 19:44:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA04406 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24391; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:37:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24266; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24254; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:36:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from slip166-72-69-171.ca.us.ibm.net (slip166-72-69-171.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.69.171]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA64238 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:36:54 GMT To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Cirrus Logic 56K PCMCIA card for TP701? Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 23:37:00 GMT Message-ID: <35f01657.3811003@mailrelay.mci2000.com> References: <199809031706.MAA18072@datasrv3.cso.uiuc.edu> In-Reply-To: <199809031706.MAA18072@datasrv3.cso.uiuc.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I don't know the particulars of the card you're considering, but I recently bought a 56K x2 card for $79 from http://www.onsale.com under the SVEC brand name, which contained a Cirrus Logic chipset. I ended up returning it for a refund.=20 I use two different ISP's which both provide 56k x2 dial-ins. But with the Cirrus Logic/SVEC card I could never get any better than 19,200 - 28,800 bps transfer rates, which is no better than I get with the 701's internal modem (19,200 bps data, BTW) or my Megahertz XJ2288 card (v.34). The Cirrus Logic/SVEC card also had the annoying habit under Win95 Dialup Networking of displaying as the connect speed whatever I had set as the maximum speed under the modem properties. If I'd set 115,200 bps (which is usually recommended), then that would be the connection speed shown, which is certainly erroneous. There was no problem installing the modem under Win95. It just didn't perform as advertised. Also, I don't know about compatibility with OS/2. It was advertised on ONSALE's spec page as OS/2 compatible, but there was no OS/2 driver on the disk provided, and since it didn't give me high-speed performance under Windows I never tried it with OS/2 (which is on another hard drive for my 701, and used less often). While I didn't care for the modem, the SVEC people were very helpful and easy to reach. > Back on the list after a hiatus. TP701CS with 24megs, running OS/2 = Warp 3 =20 >and a whole bunch of other obselete software.=20 > Getting -- understandably -- tired of 14.4 downloading and interested = in =20 >buying a PCMCIA card that will work with the 701. Locally, there's a = good deal (ca. =20 >$70) on a Cirrus Logic x2 56K card. Any experiences, good or bad with = this card?=20 > Larry Gushee > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 23:09:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA07551 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01505; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:06:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01365; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from csc.com (explorer.csc.com [20.1.10.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01352; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from csc.com by csc.com via smtpd with smtp id for ; Thu, 3 Sep 98 22:15 EDT (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.9 built 21-apr-97) Message-ID: <35EF4D5F.BB99954E@csc.com> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 21:15:59 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 128meg parts for 770 & 600 References: <35EEE319.AAD345F2@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: How much do they cost? b Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > Gentlemen: > > The 128meg Part is available for the ThinkPad 770 and 600 ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rbell1@csc.com ----------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 23:52:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA08194 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:52:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03493; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:50:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03410; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:50:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03385; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:50:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from midtower01 ([12.69.64.207]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980904034925.BMTP2461@midtower01> for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 03:49:25 +0000 From: "ATT Mail" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:38:39 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01bdd7b5$81a887c0$2f15fea9@midtower01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 3 23:53:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA08246 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03897; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:53:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:52:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03701; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:52:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scribble.queenbee.net ([209.51.171.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03688; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AM (AM [202.27.183.5]) by scribble.queenbee.net (NTMail 3.03.0017/7.aaol) with ESMTP id ha294353 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:52:07 -0400 Message-ID: <002201bdd7b7$fac5dca0$05b71bca@amlaptop> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: External Mic on 770 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:55:40 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: The only problem with this is that I'm in New Zealand at the moment and It's not really worth ordering a $15 dollar part and paying all that shipping on top of it for NZ. Does anyone know the inner workings of this power adapter. I'd like to make myself one. I really don't think there can be that much to it. Thanks, Andreas!! ;-) >>I was wondering thou, does anyone know how to built a power adapter to do >>between the thinkpad and the mic to provide an unpowered mic with power. Is >>this possible?? > >I just asked this very question here a week or two ago! Answers came from >letoured@sover.net, Greg Terrell, >and Birger Petterson; the following two sites have this kind of adapter: > >http://www.speechcontrol.com >http://www.talk-systems.com/ > >Also, if you don't mind adding your own batteries, you can get an adaptor >direct from Andrea (I don't know their web address, but IBM has it on their >site in the FAQ about microphones on ThinkPads). > >- David R. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 4 02:21:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA10495 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 02:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08888; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 02:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 02:20:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08779; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 02:20:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08758; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 02:19:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bp ([12.70.1.201]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980904061923.DXUX2461@bp>; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 06:19:23 +0000 Message-ID: <35EF8656.662@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 02:19:02 -0400 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Michaelides CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: External Mic on 770 References: <002201bdd7b7$fac5dca0$05b71bca@amlaptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Andreas Michaelides wrote: > > The only problem with this is that I'm in New Zealand at the moment > Does anyone know the inner workings of this power adapter. I'd like to make > myself one. I really don't think there can be that much to it. > Is > >>this possible?? > Yup; The silver outside ring of the mike input has + 5vdc thru a 2.3k? resistor. So you want this outside ring connected to the wire that goes to the tip of your mike plug. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 4 03:00:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA10935 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 03:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09885; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 02:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 02:58:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09790; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 02:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09751; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 02:56:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.sbs.co.at (ns.sbs.co.at [195.75.3.18]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA10900; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 06:56:48 GMT Received: by www.sbs.co.at(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id C1256675.002607D7 ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 08:55:23 +0200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SBS@WEB From: "Bernd Meierhofer" To: grenert.james@mayo.edu cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 08:55:46 +0200 Subject: Re: OS/2 FDISK not recognizing partition Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: >Since this is FDISK run from within the OS/2 installation, I don't have >any control over command modifiers. > If you leave the OS/2 installation by pressing the F3 key all fdisk command modifiers can be used from the OS/2 command prompt. Best regards, Bernd "James P. Grenert" on 03.09.98 16:12:41 To: Bernd Meierhofer/SBS/AT cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: OS/2 FDISK not recognizing partition On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Bernd Meierhofer wrote: > I think the command fdisk /newmbr may solve this problem > Since this is FDISK run from within the OS/2 installation, I don't have any control over command modifiers. A little more information to clarify my problem: I used Partition Magic to shrink C: down to ~400MB, moved it up 1MB to put in Boot Manager, and then I created an extended partition with a ~100MB logical D: drive. However, when I run the OS/2 Advanced Installation, FDISK only shows a C: drive of 513MB and nothing else. This is especially strange to me because I shrunk C: down to about 400MB with Partition Magic. As I said, the FDISK program from PCDOS sees the D: partition, and Windows 3.1 sees it as well. It is only the FDISK program in the OS/2 install software which does not show the D: drive (and thinks that the whole 540MB drive is C:). Someone suggested that I had exceeded the 1024 cylinder limit. I thought that might be the problem, so I made D: about 30MB smaller, and it still wouldn't show that the D: drive existed. Also, PQMagic showed that D: only extended until about the 500th cylinder. So, I don't think I've exceeded the 1024 cylinder limit. I may try shrinking the disk some more just to make sure. Thanks again for any help. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 4 11:17:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA17047 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:17:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05348; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:11:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04879; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop1.gmx.net (qmailr@pop1.gmx.net [194.97.64.131]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04863; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3671 invoked by alias); 4 Sep 1998 15:11:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19980904151103.3667.qmail@pop1.gmx.net> From: "Michael Lohfink" To: "Thinkpad Mailingliste" Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 16:59:51 +0000 Reply-To: "Michael Lohfink" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE List-Unsubscribe: UNSUBSCRIBE From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 4 18:03:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA23482 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:03:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27859; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:59:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27687; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from woody.wcnet.org (woody.wcnet.org [205.133.171.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27675; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pizza.z.org (root@find4-cs-2.dial.bright.net [205.212.145.182]) by woody.wcnet.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29181; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:01:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pizza.z.org. (pizza.z.org [192.168.1.2]) by pizza.z.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25061; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:00:40 -0400 To: Christoph Eyrich Cc: Micro Etoile Lyon , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad running LINUX References: X-Auto-Copy-In: 1998-09 From: jzawodn@wcnet.org (Jeremy D. Zawodny) Date: 04 Sep 1998 18:00:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: Christoph Eyrich's message of "Mon, 31 Aug 1998 13:02:21 +0200 (MEST)" Message-ID: Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.37/Emacs 20.2 List-Unsubscribe: Christoph Eyrich writes: > On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Micro Etoile Lyon wrote: > > > I'm looking for a solution to let run a IBM ThinkPad (380 or 600) under > > Linux. > > Is it possible, an if yes, where become information on how do it ? > > http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ FWIW, I am writing this from a newly acquired ThinkPad 380D (2.1GB/80MB) that's running RedHat 4.2. I recently got a 3Com 3C589D PCMCIA 10-baseT/10-base2 combo card installed and running as well. I'm VERY pleased with the setup so far. It sure beats 95, but you already knew that. :-) Let me know if you need any info. Jeremy -- Jeremy D. Zawodny Web Geek, Perl Hacker, etc. http://www.wcnet.org/~jzawodn/ jzawodn@wcnet.org LOAD "LINUX",8,1 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 4 19:37:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA24691 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:37:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01587; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:34:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01491; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01478; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA02678; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:34:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809042334.SAA02678@rgate2.ricochet.net> X-Sender: geary@bolero.rahul.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 16:34:35 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Geary Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Fri, 04 Sep 1998 Cc: Ken In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >>>> I don't know what is a good case, but I can tell you what is a *bad* one: >>>> the Port cases with the "sling" suspension. My ThinkPad 600 has two big >>>> scratches in its top cover, thanks to the idiotic design of the Port sling > >>>Be careful. Not all Port cases are the same. The ThinkPad Sport case by >>Port >>>has no buckles of any kind that can scratch your ThinkPad. It only has a > >>Good point! My comments apply only to the Port sling cases that use buckles >>to fasten the sling and have nothing separating the buckles from the >computer. > >So, how can I figure out which of the models have this problem? From >looking on the web, it seems impossible to tell. They just all say, "has >SafePORT Sling Suspension System." > >Shopping on the web for a carrying case really sucks, by the way. The only case I have personal experience with is the one I have, the ThinkPad Compact Case. You can see the problem in Port's own photograph: http://www.port.com/docs/thcomp2.htm The ThinkPad Standard Case clearly has the same problem: http://www.port.com/docs/thstand2.htm In both these photos, you can see where nothing protects the computer from those hard plastic buckles. Personally, I would simply never buy anything from Port ever again. There are lots of other companies who make good cases. The Tenba cases might be worth looking into: they've always made my favorite camera cases. -Mike http://www.geary.com mailto:mg@mg.to ham:WJ6V From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 00:42:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA28150 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:42:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09491; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:40:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09366; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:40:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09354; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:40:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (138.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.138]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id AAA16743; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:40:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35F0C13B.48EC09A3@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 00:42:35 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Michaelides CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: External Mic on 770 References: <002201bdd7b7$fac5dca0$05b71bca@amlaptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i don't know the part you are referring to, BUT, US Global Priority Mail is $5 to NZ.. anything that'll fit in the envelope.. Andreas Michaelides wrote: > > The only problem with this is that I'm in New Zealand at the moment and It's > not really worth ordering a $15 dollar part and paying all that shipping on > top of it for NZ. > > Does anyone know the inner workings of this power adapter. I'd like to make > myself one. I really don't think there can be that much to it. > > Thanks, > Andreas!! > ;-) > > >>I was wondering thou, does anyone know how to built a power adapter to do > >>between the thinkpad and the mic to provide an unpowered mic with power. > Is > >>this possible?? > > > >I just asked this very question here a week or two ago! Answers came from > >letoured@sover.net, Greg Terrell, > >and Birger Petterson; the following two sites have this kind of adapter: > > > >http://www.speechcontrol.com > >http://www.talk-systems.com/ > > > >Also, if you don't mind adding your own batteries, you can get an adaptor > >direct from Andrea (I don't know their web address, but IBM has it on their > >site in the FAQ about microphones on ThinkPads). > > > >- David R. > > > > -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770ED-5AU, 770-1AU, 760ED, 701C(4), 755CE, 750C, IBM WorkPad From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 00:47:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA28182 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:47:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09910; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:46:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09806; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09794; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (138.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.138]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id AAA17614 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35F0C288.13B97F0B@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 00:48:08 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: 770ED does use BX chipset.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I apologise for scaring people.. as far as i know the 770ED does use the BX chipset.. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770ED-5AU, 770-1AU, 760ED, 701C(4), 755CE, 750C, IBM WorkPad From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 01:04:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA28330 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 01:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10520; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 01:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 01:02:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10410; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 01:02:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10396; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 01:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 4u.net (ppp-8.tnt-1.dbry.smartworld.net [207.121.216.59]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id BAA23277; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 01:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35F0D499.42359A92@4u.net> Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 01:05:17 -0500 From: "T. Mac o' da Hook" Reply-To: bippop@4u.net Organization: Jubilado... Gone Surfin'. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPadList Subject: Unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 07:09:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA01886 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 07:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26103; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 07:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 07:07:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26016; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 07:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26004; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 07:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10749 invoked by uid 66); 5 Sep 1998 11:06:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19980905130606.14988@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:06:06 +0200 From: Harald Milz To: linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 770E and > 64M w/ Linux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 Organization: Linux.DE X-Operating-System: Linux 2.0.29 i486 X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-no-archive: yes List-Unsubscribe: Folks, it seems Linux 2.0.29 can only detect and use 64 of my 96M on my brand new TP770E (9648-510, PII-266, 1024x768 14,1" TFT). When using "mem=96M" on the kernel command line, the kernel beeps and hangs after initializing APM. Any idea what is wrong? Is this a known flaw? Does it work with later 2.0.x kernels? Thanks for any uselful hint... Needless to say the machine is superb... and the XFCom X server (-> http://www.suse.de) works nicely on that box, without all the hassle I had with older XFree86 servers on my old TP760EL (Cyber9320 chip). 1024x768 @ 24 and 32bpp (the box has 4M video ram) are comparatively slow since the current X server doesn't use the acceleration features of the chip, though. However, the preinstalled W95 driver only supports 16bpp ... :-) That's where Linux/XFree86 are better! Now if the kernel only supported the hot swap feature of the Ultrabay II ... anyone working on that? (for those who aren't familiar: under W95 you can hot swap floppy, second battery, CDROM and DVD drive, not a second hard drive, though). This requires re-writing the floppy and CDROM drivers... By the way it took me about 1 hr to move my Linux installation from my old harddisk to the new one (using the 2nd HD adapter that a collegue had accidently been delivered), including configuring the new X server, whereas customizing W95 (which I am sorry to say I cannot avoid) took me about a day, including re-installing everything from the recovery CD after Cardworks spoiled the entire PC Card recognition... I'm not sure whether this sez more about my Linux or my W95 skills, tho ... :-) -- A day without sunshine is like night. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 08:00:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA02388 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 08:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27524; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 08:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 07:59:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27386; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 07:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27373; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 07:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hetherington.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA04489; Sat, 5 Sep 98 07:58:58 EDT Message-Id: <35F12782.6BC9F014@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 07:58:58 -0400 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, Spoken Language Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Harald Milz Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 770E and > 64M w/ Linux References: <19980905130606.14988@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Use mem=95M instead of 96M and all will be well. Linux cannot use all of the 96MB because 640kB is reserved for system use. You could also specify (96*1024 - 640)k, but that only gives you 384kB more, and I cannot remember the value offhand. (Didn't I just answer this very question to the list within the last week?) --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 08:30:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA02644 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 08:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28519; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 08:30:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 08:29:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28432; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 08:29:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.gis.net (home.gis.net [208.218.130.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28418; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 08:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SYC760.connectingpoint.net (216.41.29.51-ppp.gis.net [216.41.29.51] (may be forged)) by home.gis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8+djf) with SMTP id IAA08918 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 08:28:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003e01bdd8c7$a96fa640$331d29d8@SYC760.connectingpoint.net> From: "Syclopse" To: Subject: Dock II SCSI and Linux Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 08:21:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01BDD8A6.212FE680" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BDD8A6.212FE680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Linux never likes my SCSI card on my Dock II. Anyone ever get it to = work. Thanks, JK ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BDD8A6.212FE680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Linux never likes my SCSI card on my = Dock II.=20 Anyone ever get it to work.
 
Thanks,
JK
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BDD8A6.212FE680-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 11:26:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA04225 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02283; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:25:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:24:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02146; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02134; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:23:37 -0400 Sender: RobertBerghaus@csi.com Received: from Robert (md14-138.mun.compuserve.com [195.232.39.138]) by hil-img-ims-4.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.4) with SMTP id LAA15630 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809051523.LAA15630@hil-img-ims-4.compuserve.com> From: "Robert Berghaus" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 22:00:28 +0000 Reply-To: "Robert Berghaus" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: unsubscribe List-Unsubscribe: PGP Public Key Fingerprint = 84 D2 9B 26 A6 F3 E0 F9 49 A0 3B 7F F2 98 41 D0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 12:38:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA04922 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04493; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:36:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04395; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:36:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (p57001.syspac.com [204.181.57.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04382; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:36:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0zFLL6-00011LC; Sat, 5 Sep 98 09:37 MST Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Sep 98 09:37 MST From: jones@pyrrhusoft.com (David Jones) To: syclopse@gis.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Dock II SCSI and Linux List-Unsubscribe: I have not yet tried Linux with my Dock II plus 701 combination; I am still struggling to get it working with DOS, W95, or OS/2! Based on the fact that W95 is coming up with AHA-1530P as it does its new hardware scan, I suspect that my Dock II has this newer SCSI controller than the earlier 152X family. Also, the onboard BIOS would appear to be disabled because I never see any messages from it during the boot. Any hints regarding Dock IIs plus 701 for any OS greatly appreciated. David Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 12:55:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA05084 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05225; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:54:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05117; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:54:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05105; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:54:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (mg136-151.ricochet.net [204.179.136.151]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA03707 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001f01bdd8ed$eaeef6e0$0201a8c0@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Windows NT Workstation 5.0 Beta 2.... Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:54:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Just obtained the MSDN version of NT 5.0 Beta 2. It seems to install well on my generic Dell P100 desktop. Has any brave soul tried this yet on any ThinkPad? I have a TP 600 PII/233. Has anyone tried this model? It has ACPI support and this should be recognized by the installer. David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 13:14:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA05339 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:14:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05910; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:13:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05816; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05803; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from theriver.com (a48.pm3-29.theriver.com [206.102.195.112]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00378; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:13:13 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <35F146EA.8A532290@theriver.com> Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 10:12:58 -0400 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04b1 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Jones CC: syclopse@gis.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Dock II SCSI and Linux References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Try using the 6360 Plug and Play rather than the 1530P (that does not work.) OS/2 just uses the AHA152x add driver file. I have a Quantum Viking in my DockII and it works just fine. James David Jones wrote: > > I have not yet tried Linux with my Dock II plus 701 combination; I am > still struggling to get it working with DOS, W95, or OS/2! Based on > the fact that W95 is coming up with AHA-1530P as it does its new > hardware scan, I suspect that my Dock II has this newer SCSI > controller than the earlier 152X family. Also, the onboard BIOS would > appear to be disabled because I never see any messages from it during > the boot. > > Any hints regarding Dock IIs plus 701 for any OS greatly appreciated. > > David Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 15:29:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA06656 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09501; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:28:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09406; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from blackhole.tp.ac.com (blackhole.tp.ac.com [204.167.146.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09394; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from junior.tp.ac.com (junior.tp.ac.com [10.10.57.2]) by blackhole with SMTP (DuhMail/3.0) id OAA07162; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 14:53:46 -0500 Received: from thinkchad (ra18051.tp.ac.com) by junior.tp.ac.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19637; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 14:27:33 -0500 From: burkey@cstar.ac.com (Chad Burkey) Reply-To: Sender: "Chad Burkey" To: Subject: RE: Windows NT Workstation 5.0 Beta 2.... Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:27:49 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: Hi David, Last week I spent too much time trying to get Beta 2 (build 1877) installed and running on my 770. It did load and recognized everything, but it was having some difficulties with the PCI/IDE controller (resource conflicts). The hard drive would also grind about every second or so which could be related to the controller problem. During this grind, which sounded like the heads were bouncing off of the drive housing, the system would just wait. This made the whole thing so slow and annoying that I just gave up. Beta 1 didn't do this. As always, your mileage may vary. Chad Burkey -----Original Message----- From: David W. Taylor [mailto:detayls@sprynet.com] Sent: Saturday, September 5, 1998 9:55 am To: ThinkPad List Subject: Windows NT Workstation 5.0 Beta 2.... Just obtained the MSDN version of NT 5.0 Beta 2. It seems to install well on my generic Dell P100 desktop. Has any brave soul tried this yet on any ThinkPad? I have a TP 600 PII/233. Has anyone tried this model? It has ACPI support and this should be recognized by the installer. David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 15:36:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA06713 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10089; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:34:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09848; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:34:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09806; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 686 invoked by uid 66); 5 Sep 1998 19:33:01 -0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: 770ED does use BX chipset.. Date: 5 Sep 1998 18:23:18 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 11 Message-ID: <6srvim$pr$1@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <35F0C288.13B97F0B@icanect.net> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971215 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i486)) List-Unsubscribe: Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > I apologise for scaring people.. > as far as i know the 770ED does use the BX chipset.. same as the 770E. I believe the BX is currently the Only PII chipset for portables. -- The United States also has its native Fascists who say that they are "100 percent American"... -- U. S. Army (1945) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 15:36:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA06723 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:36:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10116; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:35:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:34:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09843; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:34:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09807; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:33:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 691 invoked by uid 66); 5 Sep 1998 19:33:02 -0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: Dock II SCSI and Linux Date: 5 Sep 1998 18:24:51 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 12 Message-ID: <6srvlj$pr$2@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <003e01bdd8c7$a96fa640$331d29d8@SYC760.connectingpoint.net> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971215 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i486)) List-Unsubscribe: Syclopse wrote: > Linux never likes my SCSI card on my Dock II. Anyone ever get it to work. I once managed to get it up with the tmc8xx driver. See http://www.muc.de/~hm/linux -> Thinkpad page. Didn't work for long, though. Eventually, the SCSI chip wasn't detected any longer. Never tried to find out why. -- There's so much plastic in this culture that vinyl leopard skin is becoming an endangered synthetic. -- Lily Tomlin From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 15:36:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA06729 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:36:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10191; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:36:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:34:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09940; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:34:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09808; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:34:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 700 invoked by uid 66); 5 Sep 1998 19:33:04 -0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: TP760ED MWAVE and Linux Date: 5 Sep 1998 18:29:00 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 12 Message-ID: <6srvtc$pr$3@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <002f01bdd5fc$48268200$4501a8c0@SYC760.connectingpoint.net> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971215 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i486)) List-Unsubscribe: Syclopse wrote: > the Thinkpads daily before EZ-SERV gets them. I have access to all the HMM's and Training Video's if anyone here needs help hardware wise. Besides that, I am trying to get RedHat 5.0 to reconize my MWAV for sound. There is no Linux MWave driver (yet). Frankly it wasn't easy to get the docs... don't ask me. Since I'm not the one who does the development I'm not gonna tell you... But we're in good hands I promise. -- Substitute "damn" every time you're inclined to write "very"; your editor will delete it and the writing will be just as it should be. -- Mark Twain From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 15:36:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA06734 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10197; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:34:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09920; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09821; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:34:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 706 invoked by uid 66); 5 Sep 1998 19:33:05 -0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: TP760ED MWAVE and Linux Date: 5 Sep 1998 18:32:27 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 27 Message-ID: <6ss03r$pr$4@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <5030200035303133000002L032*@MHS> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971215 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i486)) List-Unsubscribe: Drew Gazey wrote: > Try this WWW site to get MWAVE sound running ... > http://www.screamin.demon.co.uk/mwave.html > "Wimpy's Linux Mwave Hack" He writes: IMPORTANT! As of October 16th 1997 I no longer have access to any Mwave enabled PC's or laptops due to m changing my job. As such I can't help solve specific problems you may be having because I haven't got anything to test ideads on :-( However, I am happy to maintain this document until someone want to take it off my hands. So if anyone has found solutions to the remaining "gotchas" in using an Mwave card under Linux please let me know and I will keep things upto date. Seems it's dead. But this is not "getting MWave to work". It is "getting MWave Soundblaster emulation mode to work". This has been documented in various places. This does not give you any access to the "real" MWave power, like DSP programming et cetera. Fortunately, newer TP's (namely 770's) have a CS chip which runs nicely in SBpro emu mode. -- Today is the first day of the rest of the mess From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 5 17:28:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA08021 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12886; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:27:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:26:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12753; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send101.yahoomail.com (send101.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.87]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12741; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980905212532.6291.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Received: from [194.162.163.50] by send101.yahoomail.com; Sat, 05 Sep 1998 14:25:32 PDT Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 14:25:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Marvell To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? 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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BDD985.E4876C40-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 6 12:14:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA19501 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:14:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12491; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:13:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:10:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12376; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.capecod.net (mailhost.capecod.net [204.255.214.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12362; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:10:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from capecod.net (camb0456.capecod.net [209.244.245.202]) by mailhost.capecod.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA15522 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:10:41 -0400 Message-ID: <35F2B3AA.CA9B1EA5@capecod.net> Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 12:09:14 -0400 From: rdietric Reply-To: bigdaddy@ieee.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Subject: TP760XD/Dock II Win95 Startup disk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: My Windows 95 Emergency Start Disk does not recognize the presence of the CD-ROM in the Ultra Bay or any of the SCSI Drives attached to the Docking Station. Any suggestions on what I can do to my CONFIG.SYS and/or AUTOEXEC.BAT files to correct this problem will be appreciated. MY Computer-Properties reports that no drivers have been loaded when starting Windows 95 from the hard drive in the normal fashion, yet the CD-ROM and the SCSI drives are recognized. Bob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 6 12:17:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA19538 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:17:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12919; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:16:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:16:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12806; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:16:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.capecod.net (mailhost.capecod.net [204.255.214.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12772; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from capecod.net (camb0456.capecod.net [209.244.245.202]) by mailhost.capecod.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA16397 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:15:55 -0400 Message-ID: <35F2B4E3.5AC5E195@capecod.net> Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 12:14:27 -0400 From: rdietric Reply-To: bigdaddy@ieee.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Subject: TP760XD Scrolling desktop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have quite a few icons on my desktop which take up approximately 60%( 6 columns) of the 1024x768 screen. When using the TP with an external projector I have to reset the resolution to 800x600. This causes the icons to overflow the viewable area. Is there any way I can scroll the desktop in this situation so that I can have access to all icons on the desktop? Bob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 6 16:22:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA21853 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18712; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:21:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:19:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18609; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smh-mail.smh.com (smh-mail.smh.com [204.5.150.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18596; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:19:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from ccMail by smh-mail.smh.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0005934A; Sun, 6 Sep 98 16:10:39 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:16:56 -0400 Message-ID: <0005934A.CE21223@smh.com> Subject: win 98 upgrade To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part List-Unsubscribe: Thinkpadders, While in this group of Windows haters, it's unlikely, I'm just wondering if anyone has taken advantage of the Windows 98 "free" upgrade offer. If you bought a Thinkpad since late June, you are apparently elligible for this through IBM. Are we talking free, or are we talking $30 plus tax, etc. Regards, Neil Halvey Thinkpad 600 PII266 Thinkpads 701C OS: dos, drdos, windows(3 varieties), freeBSD From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 6 16:41:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA22018 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19516; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:40:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19396; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:40:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from huygens.physics.mcgill.ca (huygens.physics.mcgill.ca [132.206.92.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19364; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:40:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from alban@localhost) by huygens.physics.mcgill.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) id QAA16206; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:39:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:39:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer X-Sender: alban@huygens.physics.mcgill.ca To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: win 98 upgrade In-Reply-To: <0005934A.CE21223@smh.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE List-Unsubscribe: I checked the conditions on IBM's web site (I threw away the coupon, so I= =20 don't have the URL any more), and only the upgrade for certain 310 and=20 385 models is free. All other ThinkPad model owners must pay 30$ USD plus= =20 taxes. I would have taken it for free, but since I am running NT anyway,=20 I won't get the upgrade at 30$ USD. Alban On Sun, 6 Sep 1998 cornelius-halvey@smh.com wrote: > Thinkpadders, > =20 > While in this group of Windows haters, it's unlikely, I'm just=20 > wondering if anyone has taken advantage of the Windows 98 "free"=20 > upgrade offer. If you bought a Thinkpad since late June, you are=20 > apparently elligible for this through IBM. Are we talking free, or a= re=20 > we talking $30 plus tax, etc. > =20 > Regards, > =20 > Neil Halvey > =20 > Thinkpad 600 PII266 > Thinkpads 701C > =20 > OS: dos, drdos, windows(3 varieties), freeBSD >=20 A. Kellerbauer McGill University Nuclear Physics Montr=E9al (Qu=E9bec) UIN 8141789 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 6 20:30:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA24504 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:30:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24683; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:29:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:28:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24552; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:28:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24540; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:28:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from theriver.com (a8.pm3-30.theriver.com [206.102.195.136]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03016; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 17:27:56 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <35F2FE4D.471BA66F@theriver.com> Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 17:27:41 -0400 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04b1 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cornelius-halvey@smh.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: win 98 upgrade References: <0005934A.CE21223@smh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Actually, I would wait on my purchase of Windows98. Problem reports state that the USB support is not up to the same level as Windows95 2.5. I guess that Microsoft tried to bite off too much. However, if you don't need USB support, then get the upgrade. IBM's price is the best I've seen of the major companies (Dell will not sell you a copy of Windows98, even if you just bought a system from them, however they did have a "free" period for upgrading.) James cornelius-halvey@smh.com wrote: > > Thinkpadders, > > While in this group of Windows haters, it's unlikely, I'm just > wondering if anyone has taken advantage of the Windows 98 "free" > upgrade offer. If you bought a Thinkpad since late June, you are > apparently elligible for this through IBM. Are we talking free, or are > we talking $30 plus tax, etc. > > Regards, > > Neil Halvey > > Thinkpad 600 PII266 > Thinkpads 701C > > OS: dos, drdos, windows(3 varieties), freeBSD From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 6 20:50:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA24774 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:50:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25399; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:50:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:49:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25318; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:49:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ids2.idsonline.com (ids2.idsonline.com [205.177.236.32]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25306; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from asalzberg (asc234.idsonline.com [207.176.21.234]) by ids2.idsonline.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA04001; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:49:18 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Arthur Salzberg" To: "'James Mckenzie'" , Cc: Subject: RE: win 98 upgrade Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:48:55 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bdd9f9$4b6164c0$ea15b0cf@asalzberg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <35F2FE4D.471BA66F@theriver.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I hooked up a MS Sidewinder Pro joystick to the USB port on my 770ED which has Win98 and it seems to work fine. Admittedly, that's hardly representative of what other problems folks may be having with USB support in general. I have seen lots of reported problems with USB support under both Win98 and Win95b. But at least in this one small instance, everything works exactly as advertised. best regards/ -----Original Message----- From: James Mckenzie [mailto:os2support@theriver.com] Sent: Sunday, September 06, 1998 5:28 PM To: cornelius-halvey@smh.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: win 98 upgrade Actually, I would wait on my purchase of Windows98. Problem reports state that the USB support is not up to the same level as Windows95 2.5. I guess that Microsoft tried to bite off too much. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 7 04:07:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA01001 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 04:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04082; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 04:06:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 7 Sep 1998 04:03:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03890; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 04:03:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03856; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 04:03:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from diebold (user-38lde4b.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.184.139]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA31377 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 04:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980907040503.007c5500@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jdiebold@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:05:03 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jean-Pierre Diebold Subject: [TP770ED] V.90 Upgrade Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Any idea on when we can expect the V.90 upgrade for the internal modem included in the TP770ED? Jean-Pierre From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 7 08:21:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA03240 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14861; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:21:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:18:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14724; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu (kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu [128.174.72.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14712; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:17:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jazz.psych.uiuc.edu by kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA10004; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 07:13:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199809071213.HAA10004@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: stanwass@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 07:20:54 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Stanley Wasserman Subject: Re: [TP770] Bases and Docks In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980907040503.007c5500@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Dear all: Can someone tell me about all the bases and docks for the 770? There are too many --- it is all a bit confusing! Thanks in advance, Stan Wasserman sw@uiuc.edu ****************************************************** Stanley Wasserman University of Illinois stanwass@uiuc.edu http://kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu 1-217-333-3325 1-217-244-5876 (fax) 1-217-377-1951 (mobile) ****************************************************** From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 7 12:08:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA06132 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:08:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19665; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:04:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19507; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:04:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mi.verio.com (newmail.mi.verio.com [209.69.71.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19494; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from billb (66-117.pop.fh.gle.verio.com [209.69.66.117]) by mail.mi.verio.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA04189; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:59:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980907120256.007f9100@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 12:02:56 -0400 To: Michael Geary , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: APM ? Win98 & 701C In-Reply-To: <199809030628.BAA23151@rgate2.ricochet.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:28 PM 9/2/98 -0700, you wrote: >>Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 12:49:38 -0400 >>From: Bill Bryan >>To: >>Subject: APM ? Win98 & 701C >>Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980822124938.00819870@rust.net> >> >> I have an upgraded 701C to a 586 processor and 36Mb ram. Win98 loaded >>fine but the unit doesn't seem to wake-up out of suspend mode if it's been >>more than a few minutes. The screen lights up with a black background. I >>also get the little blue and white clock face for a second. If I leave the >>unit in this mode the win98 "Powering down in 15 seconds" message comes up. >> If I cancel this message all is normal and the computer is ready to go. >>If I turn off the Advanced Power Management, all's well also. I wanted the >>new APM in Win98 for fully powering down the PCMCIA cards to save battery >>power during suspend. Any thoughts? > >Getting to you belatedly on this... > >My 701C (stock 486 processor) does something fairly similar: if it's in >suspend for a long time, when I open it up, I get a black screen with a >blinking text-mode-style cursor and the clock face. It just stays there and >doesn't give the "powering down in 15 seconds" message. > >With some tinkering, I found I could wake it up pretty much all the time if >I hit Ctrl-Alt-Del and then hit the Esc key a few times (maybe once is all >it needs). Go figure... > >-Mike > >http://www.geary.com >mailto:mg@mg.to >ham:WJ6V > > You are correct. I too have found strange combinations of keyboard strokes that will wake it up from it's suspend mode. Funny how it has to be a long sleep, more than 5 minutes. I also found this FAQ at IBM about suspend and APM problems and Win 98. Document is called "TP General - Considerations for Windows 98 across ThinkPad systems" : http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3VTSRR.html B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 7 13:21:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA07332 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22269; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:15:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21968; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:15:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from f04n07.cac.psu.edu (f04s07.cac.psu.edu [128.118.141.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21950; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 89171.hbg.psu.edu (89171.hbg.psu.edu [146.186.89.171]) by f04n07.cac.psu.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA37042 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:15:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199809071715.NAA37042@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> X-Sender: rfm@mail.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 13:23:07 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Robert F. Munzenrider" Subject: Upgrading 701 with AMD586 chip In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >>>From: Bill Bryan >>> >>> I have an upgraded 701C to a 586 processor and 36Mb ram. Win98 loaded >>>fine but the unit doesn't seem to wake-up out of suspend mode if it's been Let me ask a tangential question: Do you see enough improvement in performance of the 701 with the AMD586 microprocessor as compared to the original Intel486/75 to make you feel that the upgrade is cost-effective? Bob Munzenrider Penn State Harrisburg From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 7 17:03:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA10814 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26171; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:43:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:42:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25981; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:42:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (p57112.syspac.com [204.181.57.112]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25963; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0zG7BC-00011TC; Mon, 7 Sep 98 12:42 MST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Sep 98 12:42 MST From: jones@pyrrhusoft.com (David Jones) To: os2support@theriver.com CC: s.k.chen@worldnet.att.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Dock II SCSI and Linux List-Unsubscribe: James: I bought my Dock II off another TP mailing list person, Stan Chen. He had told me that he had been unable to get the Dock II SCSI working. Let me run a few things by you. I have basically tried three OSes: DOS, W98, and OS/2 (my system of choice) and been unsuccessful with all three. I have used the latest drivers for W95 (w95mpd.exe) and OS/2 (aha152x.add) from Adaptec. As W95 boots, it apparently recognizes the Dock II SCSI as "AHA1530P" but ends up as "Adaptec AIC-6X60 Plug and Play SCSI". Before completing the boot sequence W95 gives a protection violation (in the cd-rom driver, CDVSD.VXD). With OS/2 a fault is generated as AHA152X.ADD tries to load indicating it is trying to use IRQ 13 (not available). Finally, I never see the "Control-A" message to enter the SCSI configuration mode during boot. The switch block settings are the default: BIOS starting at DC000 and ports at 340. I assume you have none of these peculiar behaviors? Regards, David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 7 17:18:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA11001 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:18:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26132; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:39:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25843; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:39:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25801; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29355 invoked by uid 66); 7 Sep 1998 19:36:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19980907205142.07853@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 20:51:42 +0200 From: Harald Milz To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Enabling CS4237 sound chip on TP770E Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 Organization: Linux.DE X-Operating-System: Linux 2.0.35 i486 X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-no-archive: yes List-Unsubscribe: Folx, my brand new TP770E has a Crystal Semiconductor codec which works with a 8-bit SBpro emulation just fine. However I'd like to get 16-bit sound as well. The current OSS/Free driver (3.8s9 patched into 2.0.35) doesn't recognize the emulator as 16bit capable. I still have the hope that once correctly initialized, it will... same as the old story with the MWave chip that has to be initialized to SB emu mode via DOS. Tried that with the CS chip. config.sys has a line which says "device=c:\windoze\cwbinit /a" (which according to "cwbinit /h" means "DOS game support for PnP operating system"). After that, a 2.0.35 kernel loaded w/ loadlin will crash and spit out lotsa numbers. (no oops, just 8-digit hex numbers in angular brackets line by line, very fast, no way to see what happened immediately before). If I don't call cwbinit, loadlin/the kernel just run fine. And is anyone familiar with the cwbaudio.wcm file which holds the non-PnP options if required? What is the correct option syntax for enabling SB and, say, MPU401 emulations? Do I need this file at all? Has anyone managed to get this up and running? Any cwbinit option that works / lets the kernel work with 16-bit audio support? TIA! -- "The wages of sin are death; but after they're done taking out taxes, it's just a tired feeling:" From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 7 17:45:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA11369 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:45:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00175; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:41:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29904; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:41:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29885; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm ([12.79.18.234]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980907214021.TTAG1926@ibm>; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 21:40:21 +0000 From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "David Jones" , Cc: , Subject: Re: Dock II SCSI and Linux Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:37:57 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980907214021.TTAG1926@ibm> List-Unsubscribe: You only get the Control-A message when the BIOS is active. You don't need it for W95, but you may for OS2 The Dock2 has small DIP switches which control IRA and address - it is NOT plug and play. You possibly need to change some settings inside the dock. The SCSI will only work if you have a SCSI device attached. External devices need to be terminated - internal devices do not seem to need termination? I am using an internal 32X SCSI CD, and an external Ricoh CD-R. Default IRQ seems to be 9, address 0340 ---------- > From: David Jones > To: os2support@theriver.com > Cc: s.k.chen@worldnet.att.net; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Dock II SCSI and Linux > Date: Monday, September 07, 1998 3:00 PM > > James: > > I bought my Dock II off another TP mailing list person, Stan > Chen. He had told me that he had been unable to get the Dock II SCSI > working. Let me run a few things by you. I have basically tried > three OSes: DOS, W98, and OS/2 (my system of choice) and been > unsuccessful with all three. I have used the latest drivers for W95 > (w95mpd.exe) and OS/2 (aha152x.add) from Adaptec. > > As W95 boots, it apparently recognizes the Dock II SCSI as > "AHA1530P" but ends up as "Adaptec AIC-6X60 Plug and Play SCSI". > Before completing the boot sequence W95 gives a protection violation > (in the cd-rom driver, CDVSD.VXD). > > With OS/2 a fault is generated as AHA152X.ADD tries to load > indicating it is trying to use IRQ 13 (not available). > > Finally, I never see the "Control-A" message to enter the SCSI > configuration mode during boot. The switch block settings are the > default: BIOS starting at DC000 and ports at 340. I assume you have > none of these peculiar behaviors? > > Regards, > David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 7 23:22:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16600 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 23:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18690; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 23:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 7 Sep 1998 23:14:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17963; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 23:14:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17951; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 23:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aries (ip20.an3-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.14.20]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA20889 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 20:14:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Arthur Woo" To: Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 23:15:36 -0400 Message-ID: <000101bddad6$f325a8f0$0b050b79@aries> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: subscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 01:20:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA18993 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22255; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:12:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22148; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:12:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22135; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:12:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (147.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.147]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA16075; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:12:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35F4BD4A.3F3A5827@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 01:14:50 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stanley Wasserman CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP770] Bases and Docks References: <199809071213.HAA10004@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Stan.. Selectabase 770 required for a 770 before it will mate up to: selectadock-1, selectadock-2, (above now reportedly out of manufacture) and selectadock-3 (the newest) Stanley Wasserman wrote: > > Dear all: > > Can someone tell me about all the bases and docks for > the 770? > > There are too many --- it is all a bit confusing! > > Thanks in advance, > > Stan Wasserman > sw@uiuc.edu > ****************************************************** > Stanley Wasserman > University of Illinois > > stanwass@uiuc.edu > http://kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu > > 1-217-333-3325 > 1-217-244-5876 (fax) > 1-217-377-1951 (mobile) > ****************************************************** -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(298meg), 770-1AU(256meg), 760ED(104meg), 701C(40meg), 755CE(40meg), 750C(4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 01:24:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA19035 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22638; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:20:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:18:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22486; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22474; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:18:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (147.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.147]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA16857; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:18:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35F4BEBE.E968DE84@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 01:21:02 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bigdaddy@ieee.org CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: TP760XD/Dock II Win95 Startup disk References: <35F2B3AA.CA9B1EA5@capecod.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bob.. you gotta make config and autoexec files with the CD-ROM drivers.. should be files like: IBMCDxx.SYS and, of course MSCDEX.EXE.. if you can't find an example of these files, ask me again and i'll send them to you.. :-) the work in win9x because win9x has the 32bit drivers.. rdietric wrote: > > My Windows 95 Emergency Start Disk does not recognize the presence of > the CD-ROM in the Ultra Bay or any of the SCSI Drives attached to the > Docking Station. Any suggestions on what I can do to my CONFIG.SYS > and/or AUTOEXEC.BAT files to correct this problem will be appreciated. > MY Computer-Properties reports that no drivers have been loaded when > starting Windows 95 from the hard drive in the normal fashion, yet the > CD-ROM and the SCSI drives are recognized. > > Bob -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(298meg), 770-1AU(256meg), 760ED(104meg), 701C(40meg), 755CE(40meg), 750C(4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 06:24:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA22341 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 06:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07251; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 06:21:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 06:15:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06991; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 06:15:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from proxy.ecos.net (cvolk@proxy.ecos.net [195.88.11.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06974; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 06:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cvolk@localhost) by proxy.ecos.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27773; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:06:41 +0200 Message-Id: <199809080906.LAA27773@proxy.ecos.net> From: "Christian Volk" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 12:15:52 +0200 Reply-To: "Christian Volk" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [TP770E] EtherJet PC Card and OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: Hi! I'm trying to get a EtherJet PC Card to work with a 770E and OS/2. Its an EtherJet PC Card Combo (10BaseT, 10Base2), drivers 3.04 and 2.59 (from a newer driver disk) This card works with a 760ED (OS/2 V4, FP5) and the 770E with the preinstalled Win95 and 10Base2 (coax), but when OS/2 is installed on the 770E (V4, FP5 and 8) the card does not work correctly: 1. Address conflict When letting the card and socket services set the IO address (200h as with the 760ED) the 770 locks up after loading the card device driver on bootup (boot process continues after some time, when the ard is removed). This can be cured by setting the IO address to 210h in PROTOCOL.INI 2. Setting wrong line interface (10BaseT) This has proven to be a show stopper. After setting the IO address, the driver loads ok and can be accessed, but has detected 10BaseT instead of 10Base2! I have not found an option to force the 10Base2 interface. Strange situation. The card works with the 770E and the Win95 driver and with a 760ED and the OS/2 driver, but not the 770E and the OS/2 driver. Any ideas? I really need network access on this machine! Thanks! -Ch.Volk From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 07:49:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA23031 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 07:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09453; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 07:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 07:41:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09176; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 07:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argos.sae.gr (argos.sae.gr [194.219.29.77]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09157; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 07:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laertis (laertis.sae.gr [194.219.29.69]) by argos.sae.gr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA18889 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:41:29 +0300 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980908143950.013d4520@argos.sae.gr> X-Sender: gmich@argos.sae.gr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:39:50 +0300 To: From: "George A. Michalopoulos" Subject: Re: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: well, hallo to all... i subscribed yesterday to the list, trying to solve some problems i have with my Thinkpad 760 ED. first of all is XFree86 under Linux. can anyone managed it to work ? =20 George A. Michalopoulos =D3=F5=EC=E2=EF=FD=EB=E9=EF =C1=F0=EF=E4=DE=EC=EF=F5 =C5=EB=EB=E7=ED=E9=F3= =EC=EF=FD http://www.sae.gr From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 09:06:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA23864 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11888; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:01:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11660; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:01:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11648; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:01:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from theriver.com (a39.pm3-28.theriver.com [206.102.195.39]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA28500 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 06:01:10 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <35F50057.28A8F207@theriver.com> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 06:00:55 -0400 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04b1 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Discussion Forum Subject: [Fwd: Xfree86/Linux and a 760ED] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------022E1A4EA498363711F33074" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------022E1A4EA498363711F33074 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone with experience on XFree86 on a 760ED? I'm thinking about installing Linux (Red Hat 5.1) and would like to know about the "pitfalls" other than the linload procedure for Sound support. James --------------022E1A4EA498363711F33074 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <35F4FE6B.4F5B785D@theriver.com> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 05:52:43 -0400 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04b1 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "George A. Michalopoulos" Subject: Re: Xfree86/Linux and a 760ED References: <3.0.32.19980908143950.013d4520@argos.sae.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What is NOT working? Sound, video or both? James George A. Michalopoulos wrote: >=20 > well, hallo to all... >=20 > i subscribed yesterday to the list, trying to solve some problems i hav= e > with my Thinkpad 760 ED. >=20 > first of all is XFree86 under Linux. > can anyone managed it to work ? >=20 >=20 > George A. Michalopoulos >=20 > =FF=FF=FF=FF=FF=B2=FF=FF=FF =FF=FF=FF=FF=FF=FF=FF=FF =FF=FF=FF=FF=FF=FF= =FF=FF=FF=B2 > http://www.sae.gr --------------022E1A4EA498363711F33074-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 09:18:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA24040 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:18:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12583; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:16:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:15:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12454; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:15:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12442; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06219 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:15:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dts_jl (rasgvnt0142.uhc.com [168.183.199.106]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA06210 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:15:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980908090455.00af3b80@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 09:04:55 -0400 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: [TP770] Bases and Docks In-Reply-To: <35F4BD4A.3F3A5827@icanect.net> References: <199809071213.HAA10004@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 01:14 AM 9/8/98 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >Selectabase 770 required for a 770 before it will mate up to: >selectadock-1, >selectadock-2, >(above now reportedly out of manufacture) >and >selectadock-3 >(the newest) > And the SelectaBase 770 (P/N 83H6735) can be used alone if all you want is port replicator/cable management capability and don't need the additional bays or slots provided by the SelectaDock III (P/N 3547003). http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/accessories/expansion.html According to our IBM Marketing Specialist (fancy name for my sales rep), the SD I and SD II went out of production quite a while ago, and she's usually pretty resourceful in coming up with product for me. That was a pity since the SD I took up less space, and most of my users liked it better. I've seen reports of them showing up in places like Onsale, Surplus Direct and the like. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 10:24:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA25162 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15502; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:22:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:21:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15407; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:21:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tasmail1.tas.telus.com ([204.209.11.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15395; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by TASMAIL1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:19:43 -0600 Message-ID: From: Geza Szivos To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Etherjet card Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:19:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: I'm using this card under Warp4 and NT4. (770 1AU) I had the same problem until I changed the I?O port to 300 and the interrupt to 9 or to 3 Duplex:Full. Since I changed the setting, it works great with 10BT , never had the opportunity to try it on 10B2 Geza From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 11:56:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA26696 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20743; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:53:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20535; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argos.sae.gr (argos.sae.gr [194.219.29.77]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20498; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:53:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laertis (laertis.sae.gr [194.219.29.69]) by argos.sae.gr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA19853 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:53:40 +0300 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980908185158.00aa92c0@argos.sae.gr> X-Sender: gmich@argos.sae.gr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 18:51:59 +0300 To: Thinkpad Discussion Forum From: "George A. Michalopoulos" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Xfree86/Linux and a 760ED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: At 06:00 =F0=EC 8/9/1998 -0400, James Mckenzie wrote: >Anyone with experience on XFree86 on a 760ED? I'm thinking about >installing Linux (Red Hat 5.1) and would like to know about the >"pitfalls" other than the linload procedure for Sound support. I tried more than 10 different XF86config files to get my 760ED to work. the problem is probably that my 760 ED has a SVGA display, not a XGA... =20 George A. Michalopoulos =D3=F5=EC=E2=EF=FD=EB=E9=EF =C1=F0=EF=E4=DE=EC=EF=F5 =C5=EB=EB=E7=ED=E9=F3= =EC=EF=FD http://www.sae.gr From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 12:33:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA27408 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22816; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:25:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22708; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22696; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA26996 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:27:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:27:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Error Message Upgrading IBM ThinkPad 701c to Windows 95/98 (Q192157) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q192/1/57.asp I got this in Microsoft's e-mail about tech. support issues. I have not read it. Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 14:49:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA29971 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03392; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:48:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:45:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03203; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:45:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ecom.net ([207.155.73.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03191; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lou (c6ppp107.ecom.net [207.155.74.107]) by amber.ecom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA02401 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:45:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louw@prefer.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980908114105.00883100@ecom.net> X-Sender: louw@ecom.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 11:41:05 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: Off Topic? For Sale items Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Are for sale notes allowed here? I don't want to anger anyone. Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 15:35:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA00996 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06791; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:33:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06627; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from astor.interport.net (astor.interport.net [199.184.165.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06614; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:33:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pritzr (usrts5p72.port.net [207.237.108.72]) by astor.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA11020 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809081934.PAA11020@astor.interport.net> X-Sender: rpritz@pop.interport.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1.0.52 (Beta) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 15:33:38 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: richard Subject: 3com nic/modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Any experience with the 3com 10Mbps + 56K modem (v.90 and x2) pc card? I got one at their promotional pricing ($162, including s&h), and it's not working. Is it worth getting it repaired/replaced, or are there better cards for the money? Model 3cxem556bc From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 16:38:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA02131 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10803; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:35:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:34:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10665; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10653; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17867; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:33:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dts_jl (DTS_JL-pcp098671pcs.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA17862; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:33:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980908162250.00b14920@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 16:22:50 -0400 To: Lou , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Off Topic? For Sale items In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980908114105.00883100@ecom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:41 AM 9/8/98 -0700, Lou wrote: >Are for sale notes allowed here? I don't want to anger anyone. > I've never seen anyone get pounced on for selling their own personal property (and, indeed, it's kind of nice for the list members to get the first shot at it). If, on the other hand, you're a dealer... Well, this is what the notice you get when you sign up for the list has to say about it: >In general, advertising of commercial products or services is prohibited on >this list. However, list members may post brief, one-time announcements of >new products, as long as those products are specifically related to >ThinkPad computers, and the announcement is free of hype. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 17:52:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA03400 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:52:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14747; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:48:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14613; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:48:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (smtp4.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14595; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA32134 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:37:47 -0400 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms01.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.193]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA50412 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:47:33 -0400 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU017 id 5040100022194668; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:51:56 -0400 From: Ramiro Garcia To: Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: <5040100022194668000002L082*@MHS> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:51:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: unsubsribe Please... Thanks ramiro@us.ibm.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 18:29:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA04034 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16890; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:28:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16804; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ecom.net ([207.155.73.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16792; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lou (c6ppp156.ecom.net [207.155.74.156]) by amber.ecom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA17943 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:27:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louw@prefer.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980908152628.0099e470@ecom.net> X-Sender: louw@ecom.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 15:26:28 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: FS: THINKPAD 385 CD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: IBM THINKPAD 385 CD Model # 2635-3EU CPU: 150 MMX Pentium 2.1 g hd 48 meg RAM 8 x CD Drive with floppy in one unit 12.1 Active Matrix Monitor Win95 installed and CD 3 months old. bought for a project that did not materialize $1195 + shipping OBO. Also available is a Megahertz X2/V.90 PCMCIA Modem $125 Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 18:41:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA04292 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:41:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17884; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:39:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17784; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:39:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17770; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (GREASYGIRL.brightware.com [206.156.118.187]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA08892 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <005001bddb79$a5778080$bb769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:39:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Would it be impossible to somehow screen all of these wonderful housekeeping requests that get sent to the main list? Surely a quick filter could sense their presence and heave them off to the housekeeping address. Why do we have to have two separate addresses for this stuff anyway? It's quite clear that folk have tremendous difficulty with even this simple mechanism, which means it really isn't either simple or ideal. David -----Original Message----- From: Ramiro Garcia To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 2:50 PM Subject: unsubscribe >unsubsribe > >Please... Thanks > >ramiro@us.ibm.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 18:48:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA04442 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18583; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:47:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:47:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18480; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mak.mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18465; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle (miracle.mak.com [207.86.232.103]) by mak.mak.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA12580 for <@mak.mak.com:thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA03056 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:32:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:32:20 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <005001bddb79$a5778080$bb769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, David W. Taylor wrote: > > Why do we have to have two separate addresses for this stuff anyway? It's > quite clear that folk have tremendous difficulty with even this simple > mechanism, which means it really isn't either simple or ideal. The list-owner no longer uses a Thinkpad, but agreed to keep hosting the mailing list. Yes, that also means he doesn't see any of these unsubscribe requests sent to the main list. If someone wishes to discuss taking over his job, just fire off a message to thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu. -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 18:55:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA04536 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:55:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19300; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:55:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:53:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19056; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:53:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.gis.net (home.gis.net [208.218.130.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19029; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SYC760.connectingpoint.net (ThinkPad@216.41.32.103-ppp.gis.net [216.41.32.103] (may be forged)) by home.gis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8+djf) with SMTP id SAA24630; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:52:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003101bddb7a$5331af20$4501a8c0@SYC760.connectingpoint.net> From: "Syclopse" To: "George A. Michalopoulos" Cc: Subject: Re: [Fwd: Xfree86/Linux and a 760ED] Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:45:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have the 760ED SVGA and Redhat 5.0 purrs on it with a XFree86.config fi= le I got off the web, if anyone is interested in it let me know and I'll pas= te it in a message or something. John K. -----Original Message----- From: George A. Michalopoulos To: Thinkpad Discussion Forum Date: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Fwd: Xfree86/Linux and a 760ED] At 06:00 =F0=EC 8/9/1998 -0400, James Mckenzie wrote: >Anyone with experience on XFree86 on a 760ED? I'm thinking about >installing Linux (Red Hat 5.1) and would like to know about the >"pitfalls" other than the linload procedure for Sound support. I tried more than 10 different XF86config files to get my 760ED to work. the problem is probably that my 760 ED has a SVGA display, not a XGA... George A. Michalopoulos =D3=F5=EC=E2=EF=FD=EB=E9=EF =C1=F0=EF=E4=DE=EC=EF=F5 =C5=EB=EB=E7=ED=E9=F3= =EC=EF=FD http://www.sae.gr From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 8 21:32:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA07536 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:32:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25561; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:29:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25411; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:29:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from woody.wcnet.org (woody.wcnet.org [205.133.171.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25398; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pizza.z.org (root@find1-cs-1.dial.bright.net [205.212.145.130]) by woody.wcnet.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18255; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pizza.z.org. (pizza.z.org [192.168.1.2]) by pizza.z.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18039; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:30:26 -0400 To: richard Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 3com nic/modem References: <199809081934.PAA11020@astor.interport.net> X-Auto-Copy-In: 1998-09 From: jzawodn@wcnet.org (Jeremy D. Zawodny) In-Reply-To: richard's message of "Tue, 08 Sep 1998 15:33:38 -0400" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.42/Emacs 20.3 Date: 08 Sep 1998 21:30:26 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 37 List-Unsubscribe: richard writes: > Any experience with the 3com 10Mbps + 56K modem (v.90 and x2) pc > card? I got one at their promotional pricing ($162, including s&h), > and it's not working. Is it worth getting it repaired/replaced, or > are there better cards for the money? Model 3cxem556bc Seeing as there have been no responses, I'll relay what I know. I asked a similar question a couple weeks ago. I was looking to get an Ethernet card and and modem for my 380D. The advice I received was to stray away from the all-in-one cards if I intended to use it much under Linux. As it turns out, I need Ethernet mostly under Linux and the modem when I boot into Win95 once in a while. So, I picked up 3Com 3C589D to handle the Ethernet (since it will do either 10base-T or 10base-2, which was one of my requirements). I'm still undecided on the modem. But based on feedback I've seen so far, I'm inclined to go with a USR/3Com. I still haven't decided. The general opinion I got was that the combo cards worked quite well under Win95. I'm assuming you're using Win95 since you didn't say otherwise. OS/2 support for such cards seemed to be similarly lacking, but that's just the impression I got. Good luck. Let us what your experience is. Jeremy -- Jeremy D. Zawodny Web Geek, Perl Hacker, etc. http://www.wcnet.org/~jzawodn/ jzawodn@wcnet.org LOAD "LINUX",8,1 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 01:57:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA18586 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:57:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05489; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:53:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05354; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:53:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sh1.ro.com (sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05342; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:53:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from socrates (ts1p4.ro.com [205.216.92.24]) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA22439 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 00:53:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199809090553.AAA22439@sh1.ro.com> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 98 00:52:30 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199809080906.LAA27773@proxy.ecos.net> Subject: Re: [TP770E] EtherJet PC Card and OS/2 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.46a b46 List-Unsubscribe: "Christian Volk" said the following on the auspicious date of 98-09-08: >2. Setting wrong line interface (10BaseT) >This has proven to be a show stopper. After setting the IO address, the >driver loads ok and can be accessed, but has detected 10BaseT instead of >10Base2! I have not found an option to force the 10Base2 interface. In my protocol.ini on my desktop, I have this text. It may help, but it might not: [LNE100_nif] ;Drivername DriverName = LNE100$ ;MEDIA_MODE select the connect type of the adapter ; TP_10 10MB ; TP_10_FD 10MB+Full Duplex ; TP_100_FD 100MB+Full Duplex ; TP_100 100MB ; BNC ; AUI ; AUTODETECT autodetect by the driver,default value ; MEDIA_MODE=AUTODETECT MEDIA_MODE=TP_10 -------------------------------------------------- Windows95 -- An entomologist's dream Jeff Jackowski http://ro.com/~jeffj/ OS/2 WPS (Desktop) Tips, remote i-net dialup "Luncheon meats make the sawdust in your stomach explode." -- Crow T. Robot From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 02:30:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA19936 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06477; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:29:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06394; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06379; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA26240; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 23:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809090626.XAA26240@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "David W. Taylor" Date: Tue, 08 Sep 98 23:28:21 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: unsubscribe List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:39:05 -0700, David W. Taylor wrote: >Would it be impossible to somehow screen all of these wonderful housekeeping >requests that get sent to the main list? Surely a quick filter could sense >their presence and heave them off to the housekeeping address. > >Why do we have to have two separate addresses for this stuff anyway? It's >quite clear that folk have tremendous difficulty with even this simple >mechanism, which means it really isn't either simple or ideal. I guess that's why we have Windows and Macintoshes (no offense to Mac people, including myself). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 02:33:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA20107 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06911; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:32:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:30:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06586; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06526; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:30:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA26379 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 23:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809090627.XAA26379@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Tue, 08 Sep 98 23:29:59 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Off Topic? For Sale items List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 08 Sep 1998 16:22:50 -0400, Jane Loyless wrote: >At 11:41 AM 9/8/98 -0700, Lou wrote: > >>Are for sale notes allowed here? I don't want to anger anyone. >> > >I've never seen anyone get pounced on for selling their own personal >property (and, indeed, it's kind of nice for the list members to get the >first shot at it). > While we're on the topic of selling and buying, does anyone know of a good source for a bare ThinkPad 701C or CS? I need one so I don't have to replace the speaker and entire keyboard on mine (since sending it back to Easyserve takes 2 weeks for me, and fixing it myself is not something I'd want to do on that particular machine). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 02:33:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA20113 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:33:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06927; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:30:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06559; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06513; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA26369 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 23:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809090627.XAA26369@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Tue, 08 Sep 98 23:29:52 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Off Topic? For Sale items List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 08 Sep 1998 16:22:50 -0400, Jane Loyless wrote: >At 11:41 AM 9/8/98 -0700, Lou wrote: > >>Are for sale notes allowed here? I don't want to anger anyone. >> > >I've never seen anyone get pounced on for selling their own personal >property (and, indeed, it's kind of nice for the list members to get the >first shot at it). > While we're on the topic of selling and buying, does anyone know of a good source for a bare ThinkPad 701C or CS? I need one so I don't have to replace the speaker and entire keyboard on mine (since sending it back to Easyserve takes 2 weeks for me, and fixing it myself is not something I'd want to do on that particular machine). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 03:14:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA21497 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09228; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:09:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08827; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:09:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08815; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:09:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (slip-32-100-221-227.wa.us.ibm.net [32.100.221.227]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA45520; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:08:59 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980909000417.038d084c@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net> X-Sender: johncal@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 00:04:17 -0700 To: Grant Hilsenteger , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: John Callahan Subject: Re: Portable Printers In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970910035607.0068ba8c@pop.srv.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 03:56 AM 9/10/97 +0000, Grant Hilsenteger wrote: > >Hi, > >I was out looking for a printer that was a good portable that would >complement a TP. >As I was looking I thought that I should ask the people on this list. >What is a good portable printer for a TP? Looking around the 300-400 range. >I was looking at a BJC-80, but can't find a store that has thenm in stock. > >Grant Hilsenteger >agh1@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca > > > I would look at the Canon BJC-50. It's small and light (smaller than the BJC-80) and -- most important for a ThinkPad owner -- black. The BJC-50 comes with a rechargeable battery and has an infrared port. It also has an option to turn it into a portable scanner. Price in the US is about $350. ----- John Callahan, Editor Information Technology Research Enterprise Automation Report 2608 Second Avenue Suite 240 Member: Computer Press Association Seattle, WA 98121 USA Phone: (206) 282-7050 Web: http://www.itr.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 03:40:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA22414 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10281; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:30:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10176; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10161; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:30:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.ege.edu.tr (tk-os2.ege.edu.tr [155.223.7.200]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA10287 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:31:37 +0400 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199809090631.KAA10287@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:30:02 +0200 Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Thinkpad, OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello everyone! I successfully installed OS/2 on my Thinkpad 600, following the online directions, but I have some annoyances, such as: * I got an PCMCIA ethernet card for it (made by Linksys), works great with the 'card director', but if I unplug it while the machine is on, (even after selecting OFF from card director), desktop hangs. Mouse moves, but that's about it. I end up powering it off and on. * When OS/2 returns from suspend mode; pretty much the same thing; the whole thing freezes. I have APM drivers loaded, too. If anyone have any clues, I would appreciate it! Thanks, -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNfZmuTJjYwErN0xZAQFN1gP/R+8VGETnohJscADyBJUpR4Pj/iXPPAB6 zK0SP8BcfxtCRPACPFj9gEBRSpdvw1Mhz+BQoVxXy3WZG5GYOfAgRP2LyxQ2xzWs DIAqc35fFZYciBOjczzwh9zBdoasgKmskWq57FrivfArPlAV+rnetvCmOIdF9w04 KVyBDwduFKs= =K8jX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 03:44:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA22515 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10472; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:31:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10319; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10306; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:31:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.ege.edu.tr (tk-os2.ege.edu.tr [155.223.7.200]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA03200 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:32:42 +0400 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199809090632.KAA03200@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:31:08 +0200 Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP600: GSM List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi - can someone recommend a GSM interface card for a Thinkpad 600? (GSM is the cellular phone network in Europe).. I have a cellular phone and a thinkpad; I'd like to use the phone as a modem.. Thanks! -t - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNfZm/DJjYwErN0xZAQG7wgP/Wp8H3bVBo5JiyhYdvAKevoxzYzgjs54H QTNaB27X6+2WPpeFj09+BhAwj7WsM/XjyfsQ6NidlHXyNcF1u4dUu8G7musvDbdX qnPLeNSoLUl7bOLHLmqODGAQe4heOZYCRTn/rlo4jp1ydjTEwiR778wiyHUObJI7 F5W+/n8Xiz8= =K+cU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 010: Reserved for future mistakes. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 03:44:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA22521 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10528; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:32:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10366; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10334; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailstub@localhost) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA03650; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 00:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809090731.AAA03650@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> From: "Teresa Selling" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 01:31:35 +0000 Reply-To: "Teresa Selling" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Portable Printers List-Unsubscribe: But the BJC-50 doesn't have a sheet-feeder like the BJC-80. Have to feed sheets one at a time. On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 00:04:17 -0700, John Callahan wrote: >At 03:56 AM 9/10/97 +0000, Grant Hilsenteger wrote: >> >>Hi, >> >>I was out looking for a printer that was a good portable that would >>complement a TP. >>As I was looking I thought that I should ask the people on this >list. >>What is a good portable printer for a TP? Looking around the 300-400 >range. >>I was looking at a BJC-80, but can't find a store that has thenm in >stock. >> >>Grant Hilsenteger >>agh1@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca >> >> >> > >I would look at the Canon BJC-50. It's small and light (smaller than >the BJC-80) and -- most important for a ThinkPad owner -- black. > >The BJC-50 comes with a rechargeable battery and has an infrared >port. It also has an option to turn it into a portable scanner. > >Price in the US is about $350. > > > >----- >John Callahan, Editor Information Technology Research >Enterprise Automation Report 2608 Second Avenue Suite 240 >Member: Computer Press Association Seattle, WA 98121 USA >Phone: (206) 282-7050 Web: http://www.itr.com > --- Teresa Selling E-Mail: tselling@ibm.net Colorado Springs, CO From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 04:14:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA23575 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12897; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:12:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12795; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12762; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.ege.edu.tr (tk-os2.ege.edu.tr [155.223.7.200]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA11170 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:13:28 +0400 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199809090713.LAA11170@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 11:11:52 +0200 Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Portable Printers List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 01:31:35 +0000, Teresa Selling wrote: >But the BJC-50 doesn't have a sheet-feeder like the >BJC-80. Have to feed sheets one at a time. I have the '80' model; it's very nice.. Slow, but good quality; nice drivers.. Too bad the scanner cannot be made to work with OS/2 (AFAIK).. - -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNfZwiDJjYwErN0xZAQGq+AP/baeiHOozjZLuEZUKVCKsdV3sUZLVBWoT FRgh/AzBqpzNCvBG8xFjsl84EDWMw41WPYuMA9k5A+j6htD5D6CcCMB412jZOXZI 5bdyQyJD7e5IlqpB6S1hKRwpZ7WamHwEOu2xFo2LXt7lJJdDyPDCW9TjRkzEjKEP S5tvRneKpLA= =mkuj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 04:20:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA23798 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:20:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13319; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:17:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13216; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13204; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA14810; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809090814.BAA14810@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "turgut kalfaoglu" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 98 01:16:26 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad, OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:30:02 +0200, turgut kalfaoglu wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hello everyone! I successfully installed OS/2 on my Thinkpad 600, >following the online directions, but I have some annoyances, such as: > >* I got an PCMCIA ethernet card for it (made by Linksys), works great with the 'card > director', but if I unplug it while the machine is on, (even after selecting OFF from card > director), desktop hangs. Mouse moves, but that's about it. I end up powering it off and on. > Hmmm... I have had good luck with my Home & Away (except for the modem portion with v.1.0 drivers). I also hear that 3COM PCMCIA NICs work well with OS/2. I use 3COM cards on the majority of my desktop systems. >* When OS/2 returns from suspend mode; pretty much the same thing; the whole thing > freezes. I have APM drivers loaded, too. > Which APM drivers? Warp 4, right? Which fixpack? And the 600 has APM 1.2, right? Also, another ThinkPad/OS/2 question - would my machine be significantly faster if I put Warp 3 on my 701? I'm thinking of buying a second HD. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 04:23:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA23911 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13673; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:21:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13580; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:21:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13568; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA15690 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809090818.BAA15690@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 98 01:20:46 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Portable Printers List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 00:04:17 -0700, John Callahan wrote: >At 03:56 AM 9/10/97 +0000, Grant Hilsenteger wrote: >> >>Hi, >> >>I was out looking for a printer that was a good portable that would >>complement a TP. >>As I was looking I thought that I should ask the people on this >list. >>What is a good portable printer for a TP? Looking around the 300-400 >range. >>I was looking at a BJC-80, but can't find a store that has thenm in >stock. >> >>Grant Hilsenteger >>agh1@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca >> >> >> > >I would look at the Canon BJC-50. It's small and light (smaller than >the BJC-80) and -- most important for a ThinkPad owner -- black. > >The BJC-50 comes with a rechargeable battery and has an infrared >port. It also has an option to turn it into a portable scanner. > >Price in the US is about $350. > If color isn't important, but size and speed are, I'd recommend the Pentax PocketJet. I've been using mine for almost three years now, and the battery is wearing out (NiCAD), but the unit has held up well (I accidently dropped it on a hard tile floor from about 3-4 feet and it had no problems working afterwards. It still amazes me). still is fast at 3PPM, works well with every known OS, is lightweight and small. Only disadvantages is it costs $399, and uses thermal paper (not too much of a problem for me). It uses HP LaserJet IIP emulation, and works great with OS/2. I'm not related in any way to Pentax, I'm just happy with their great products. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 04:24:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA23955 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13945; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:24:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:23:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13807; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13753; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA16043 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809090820.BAA16043@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 98 01:22:22 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Portable Printers List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 01:31:35 +0000, Teresa Selling wrote: >But the BJC-50 doesn't have a sheet-feeder like the >BJC-80. Have to feed sheets one at a time. But a sheet feeder also adds to the weight and bulk of the printer, which in some cases is a disadvantage. For me, I don't mind carrying a heavy computer (since I carry both ThinkPads in my backpack), but since I carry my printer around, I'm thankful there isn't something like a sheet feeder or other bulky object attached to it. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 05:12:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA25595 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:12:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA15398; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:10:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:09:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA15291; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA15275; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.ege.edu.tr (tk-os2.ege.edu.tr [155.223.7.200]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA31330; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:10:36 +0400 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199809090810.MAA31330@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:09:01 +0200 Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad, OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>* When OS/2 returns from suspend mode; pretty much the same thing; the whole thing >> freezes. I have APM drivers loaded, too. >Which APM drivers? Warp 4, right? Which fixpack? And the 600 has APM 1.2, right? Yep, warp 4, fixpack 8.. I keep up with my fixpacks :) I dont know about APM 1.2, I downloaded its new BIOS maybe a month ago, and upgraded the BIOS successfully.. (Phew! it's a nerve-wrecking experience) >Also, another ThinkPad/OS/2 question - would my machine be significantly faster >if I put Warp 3 on my 701? I'm thinking of buying a second HD. I doubt it; Warp 4 had several optimizations done; not to mention stability.. Why not put Warp 4 on that machine (I dont know 701's specs; sorry).. Thanks for your reply! - -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! 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From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 05:20:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA25893 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:20:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA17373; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:17:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16796; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:17:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16661; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA27437 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199809090914.CAA27437@ritchie.loop.com> Message-Id: <199809090914.CAA27437@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" Resent-From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" X-Original-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 98 02:16:02 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad, OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:09:01 +0200, turgut kalfaoglu wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>>* When OS/2 returns from suspend mode; pretty much the same thing; the whole thing >>> freezes. I have APM drivers loaded, too. >>Which APM drivers? Warp 4, right? Which fixpack? And the 600 has APM 1.2, right? > >Yep, warp 4, fixpack 8.. I keep up with my fixpacks :) Have you tried downgrading to FP7? I have FP6 on here (still have to update 3 Warp 3 connect boxes), but FP6 didn't work on the ThinkPad, so downgraded to FP5. >I dont know about APM 1.2, I downloaded its new BIOS maybe a month ago, and upgraded >the BIOS successfully.. (Phew! it's a nerve-wrecking experience) > The BIOS? Not as much as reinstalling Warp 4 from floppy disks! Sheesh! >>Also, another ThinkPad/OS/2 question - would my machine be significantly faster >>if I put Warp 3 on my 701? I'm thinking of buying a second HD. > >I doubt it; Warp 4 had several optimizations done; not to mention stability.. Why not put Warp >4 on that machine (I dont know 701's specs; sorry).. Thanks for your reply! > That's what's been on it for over a year now. I'm just having problems getting File and Print Sharing to work, and I don't know why either. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 05:21:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA25953 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA17991; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:18:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA17369; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA17231; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA27728; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809090915.CAA27728@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "turgut kalfaoglu" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 98 02:17:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad, OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: >I doubt it; Warp 4 had several optimizations done; not to mention stability.. Why not put Warp >4 on that machine (I dont know 701's specs; sorry).. Thanks for your reply! > Oh, as for specs on the 701, go to warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/thinkpad/index.html, and click on the ThinkPad 701 DX4 link. Or you can get to my site from the URL in my sig by clicking on the main folder. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 05:30:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA26217 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22423; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:29:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:28:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21857; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:28:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21738; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailstub@localhost) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id CAA06082; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809090928.CAA06082@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> From: "Teresa Selling" To: "Thinkpad Email List" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 03:28:20 +0000 Reply-To: "Teresa Selling" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: IBM Wireless Lan Adapter + thinkpad 770 + Win98 List-Unsubscribe: I have these working fine under OS/2 and win95. I upgraded a thinkpad >from Win95 to Win98. After upgrading the driver was disabled because it gave a not responding error. Trying to reinstall causes fatal errors to Win 98. I thought someone had this working... whats the trick? --- Teresa Selling E-Mail: tselling@ibm.net Colorado Springs, CO From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 06:16:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA27791 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24908; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:16:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:15:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24808; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:15:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argos.sae.gr (argos.sae.gr [194.219.29.77]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24786; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laertis (laertis.sae.gr [194.219.29.69]) by argos.sae.gr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA23293; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:15:23 +0300 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980909131341.00a57550@argos.sae.gr> X-Sender: gmich@argos.sae.gr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:13:42 +0300 To: "Syclopse" From: "George A. Michalopoulos" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Xfree86/Linux and a 760ED] Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: At 06:45 =EC=EC 8/9/1998 -0400, Syclopse wrote: >I have the 760ED SVGA and Redhat 5.0 purrs on it with a XFree86.config file >I got off the web, if anyone is interested in it let me know and I'll paste >it in a message or something. Finally, after i tried every XFree86config file i found over the net, i got it to work. thanks anyway. George A. Michalopoulos =D3=F5=EC=E2=EF=FD=EB=E9=EF =C1=F0=EF=E4=DE=EC=EF=F5 =C5=EB=EB=E7=ED=E9=F3= =EC=EF=FD http://www.sae.gr From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 06:44:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA28758 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25846; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:42:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25758; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pike.sover.net (root@pike.sover.net [204.71.16.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25746; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:42:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from MYHOSTNAME (usr2a48.burl.sover.net [207.136.201.48]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id GAA17918; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:41:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809091041.GAA17918@pike.sover.net> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 05:52:42 -0400 To: "turgut kalfaoglu" , "ThinkPad List" In-Reply-To: <199809090631.KAA10287@home.egenet.com.tr> Subject: Re: Thinkpad, OS/2 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.50 b50 List-Unsubscribe: I had the same problem with a TP560. Linksys just told me me to take the problem to IBM and then ignored my questions. ---Eventually, I told them to buy it back or I was going to sue them. They bought it back. >Hello everyone! I successfully installed OS/2 on my Thinkpad 600, >following the online directions, but I have some annoyances, such as: >* I got an PCMCIA ethernet card for it (made by Linksys), works great >with the 'card > director', but if I unplug it while the machine is on, (even after >selecting OFF from card > director), desktop hangs. Mouse moves, but that's about it. I end up >powering it off and on. >* When OS/2 returns from suspend mode; pretty much the same thing; the >whole thing > freezes. I have APM drivers loaded, too. >If anyone have any clues, I would appreciate it! >Thanks, -turgut >- -- >turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP >signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr >http://bbsturk.bbs.tr >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 >Charset: noconv >iQCVAwUBNfZmuTJjYwErN0xZAQFN1gP/R+8VGETnohJscADyBJUpR4Pj/iXPPAB6 >zK0SP8BcfxtCRPACPFj9gEBRSpdvw1Mhz+BQoVxXy3WZG5GYOfAgRP2LyxQ2xzWs >DIAqc35fFZYciBOjczzwh9zBdoasgKmskWq57FrivfArPlAV+rnetvCmOIdF9w04 >KVyBDwduFKs= >=K8jX >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 07:30:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA00467 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27110; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:29:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27019; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tyholt.uninett.no (tyholt.uninett.no [158.38.60.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27005; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:28:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from tikneppen.uninett.no (oak@tikneppen.uninett.no [158.38.60.70]) by tyholt.uninett.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05087; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:28:25 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <199809091128.NAA05087@tyholt.uninett.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "turgut kalfaoglu" cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: TP600: GSM In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:31:08 +0200." <199809090632.KAA03200@home.egenet.com.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:28:24 +0200 Sender: Olav.Kvittem@uninett.no List-Unsubscribe: ** "turgut kalfaoglu" wrote: ** > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hi - can someone recommend a GSM interface card for a Thinkpad 600? > > (GSM is the cellular phone network in Europe).. I have a cellular phone > and a thinkpad; I'd like to use the phone as a modem.. I have nokia 2110 with a PCMCIA-card that works fine - with Linux. It's a couple of years old. olav From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 07:43:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA00915 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27978; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:42:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:42:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27896; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:42:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tyholt.uninett.no (tyholt.uninett.no [158.38.60.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27883; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:41:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from tikneppen.uninett.no (oak@tikneppen.uninett.no [158.38.60.70]) by tyholt.uninett.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05531 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:41:54 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <199809091141.NAA05531@tyholt.uninett.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 600 APM-problems with Linux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:41:53 +0200 Sender: Olav.Kvittem@uninett.no List-Unsubscribe: My TP600 with Linux 2.0.35 and 2.1.117 hangs when returning from Suspend. The screen comes back fine. Anyone that knows about a cure og owrk going on to fix it ? Linux boot message : APM BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.2) Entry fcce:0 cseg16 f000 dseg 9fc0 cseg len ffff, dseg len 400 Connection version 1.1 AC on line, battery status charging, battery life 3% battery flag 0x0c, battery life unknown I am a bit concerned that the APM-connection is 1.1 while the BIOS is 1.2. Could it be that the BIOS does not cope with a 1.1 protocol ? Someone said that there was discussion about APM on the Thinkpad list. I did not find such activity in the archives - any pointers to other TP-lists ? Olav CONFIG_APM=y CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND=y CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE=y CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK=y CONFIG_APM_POWER_OFF=y CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_MULTIPLE_SUSPEND=y From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 08:46:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA03297 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:46:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00969; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:45:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:44:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00750; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:44:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate1.ezcomm.com (root@cyliax.bluemarble.net [204.89.253.177]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00709; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hugo.ezcomm.com (hugo.ezcomm.com [129.79.238.52]) by gate1.ezcomm.com (8.8.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA03103; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:44:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hugo.ezcomm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo.ezcomm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA00597; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:49:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199809091249.HAA00597@hugo.ezcomm.com> To: Olav.Kvittem@uninett.no cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 600 APM-problems with Linux In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:41:53 +0200. <199809091141.NAA05531@tyholt.uninett.no> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 07:49:47 -0500 From: Ingo Cyliax List-Unsubscribe: + My TP600 with Linux 2.0.35 and 2.1.117 hangs when returning from Suspend. + The screen comes back fine. + Anyone that knows about a cure og owrk going on to fix it ? My tp560e was doing this too. I had to undefine APM_NOINTS, i.e.: #undef APM_NOINTS in the drivers/char/apm_bios.c. This fixed the hanging problem out of suspend. Maybe it will for you too. My backlight still doesn't come on when I resume 50% of the time. The machine runs when this happens and I can usually get the backlight to come on on a second suspend/resume cycle, but I think this is an unrelated problem with the tp56e. See ya, -ingo + + Linux boot message : + + APM BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.2) + Entry fcce:0 cseg16 f000 dseg 9fc0 cseg len ffff, dseg len 400 + Connection version 1.1 + AC on line, battery status charging, battery life 3% + battery flag 0x0c, battery life unknown + + I am a bit concerned that the APM-connection is 1.1 while the BIOS is 1.2. + Could it be that the BIOS does not cope with a 1.1 protocol ? + + Someone said that there was discussion about APM on the Thinkpad list. + I did not find such activity in the archives - any pointers to + other TP-lists ? + + Olav + + + CONFIG_APM=y + CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND=y + CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE=y + CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y + CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK=y + CONFIG_APM_POWER_OFF=y + CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_MULTIPLE_SUSPEND=y + + + From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 09:41:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA05428 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03948; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:40:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:40:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03806; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop03.globecomm.net (pop03.globecomm.net [206.253.130.65]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03783; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from 4u.net (ppp-13.tc-1.dbry.smartworld.net [207.121.216.15]) by pop03.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id JAA04266; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:39:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35F693D2.390B9B49@4u.net> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 09:42:27 -0500 Reply-To: bippop@4u.net Organization: Jubilado... 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 12:00:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA11359 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12976; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:53:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:49:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12539; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12524; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:49:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA19378; Wed, 9 Sep 98 11:49:19 EDT Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <35F6A37F.68F18F67@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 11:49:19 -0400 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: TP600 (and TP770E/ED?) suspend/resume works in Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Great news! Suspend/resume is finally working on my Pentium II TP660. I presume that the same fix will work on the TP770E/ED. Basically, the fix is a one-line patch to drivers/char/apm_bios.c in the Linux kernel. I am including a patch below for 2.0.35, although it will likely work with slightly older kernels as well. I have tested this with 2.0.35 and pcmcia-cs-3.0.5 (both the latest available). What a relief to finally have this working! --Lee Hetherington --- drivers/char/apm_bios.c~ Mon Jul 13 16:47:29 1998 +++ drivers/char/apm_bios.c Wed Sep 9 09:29:16 1998 @@ -162,7 +162,7 @@ * Define to disable interrupts in APM BIOS calls (the CPU Idle BIOS call * should turn interrupts on before it does a 'hlt'). */ -#define APM_NOINTS +#undef APM_NOINTS /* * Define to make the APM BIOS calls zero all data segment registers (do From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 12:49:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA13472 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16427; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:46:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16284; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16269; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA20046; Wed, 9 Sep 98 12:46:43 EDT Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <35F6B0F3.31C78C6C@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:46:43 -0400 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP600 (and TP770E/ED?) suspend/resume works in Linux References: <35F6A37F.68F18F67@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Sorry for the follow up, but I am anticipating others might be interested in my kernel .config regarding APM. Here are the relevant entries that I have working with the patch: CONFIG_APM=y # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set # CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE is not set CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y # CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK is not set CONFIG_APM_POWER_OFF=y CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_MULTIPLE_SUSPEND=y --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 12:59:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA13975 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17266; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:56:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17072; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.kjs.com ([195.75.218.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17060; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809091656.MAA17060@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from kjsbedieintsmti.kjs.com by ns.kjs.com via smtpd (for CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) with SMTP; 9 Sep 1998 16:54:13 UT Received: by kjsbedieintsmti.kjs.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:51:44 +0200 From: "HERRERO, Jose" To: "'ThinkPad Mailing List Post'" Subject: TP760 running Linux on external removable drive Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:51:00 +0200 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I haven't follow the list for sometime, so sorry if these questions have already been discussed. Has anybody tried to install Linux on a SCSI external removable drive? Is it possible to run it without modifying (ie, partitioning) the TP HD? Which linux distribution? What about performance? Where to find information? Do I need DOS drivers for my SCSI card before running the installation program or are there any Linux distribution detecting PCMCIA cards early in the installation process? I've tried to find DOS drivers for my particular SCSI card without any success (Adaptec support doesn't respond) and expend some many hours searching the Internet for info. My configuration: TP 760EL, Pentium 133, 64Mb RAM, 2.5Gb HD, Adaptec SlimSCSI 1450B card, SyJet 1.5Gb removable drive. I currently run Window95 and have an early RedHat Linux distribution. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot in advance, Jose I. Herrero From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 13:25:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA15291 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:25:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18768; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:24:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:23:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18658; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.hd.ibm.de (firewall.hd.ibm.de [192.101.197.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18643; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:23:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com by firewall.hd.ibm.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03/TWS 4.03.3-cherub) id AA118934; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:17:27 +0200 Received: from pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com [9.228.3.110]) by mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.4-mailserver) with ESMTP id TAA38072 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:23:06 +0200 (MSZ) Received: (from krumeich@localhost) by pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.2-pool) id TAA30230; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:23:03 +0200 (MSZ) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:23:03 +0200 (MSZ) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de To: ThinkPad List Subject: Now working: suspend/resume in Linux on TP600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, It's really good that finally someone has found a solution to that annoying suspend/resume problem. Thanks a lot, Ingo! For what it's worth: hibernation also works now! Alexander -- Alexander Krumeich Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 13:37:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA15845 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20306; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:36:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:35:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20194; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate1.ezcomm.com (root@cyliax.bluemarble.net [204.89.253.177]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20180; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:35:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hugo.ezcomm.com (hugo.ezcomm.com [129.79.238.52]) by gate1.ezcomm.com (8.8.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA04471; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:35:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hugo.ezcomm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo.ezcomm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA01529; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:40:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199809091740.MAA01529@hugo.ezcomm.com> To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Now working: suspend/resume in Linux on TP600 In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:23:03 +0200. Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:40:37 -0500 From: Ingo Cyliax List-Unsubscribe: No problem. Now, if I could just figure out the annoying backlight problem on my tp560e... See ya, -ingo + It's really good that finally someone has found a solution to that + annoying suspend/resume problem. Thanks a lot, Ingo! + + For what it's worth: hibernation also works now! + + Alexander + + -- + Alexander Krumeich + + Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de + http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ + + + From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 13:43:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA16158 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21000; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:42:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20882; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.eecs.uic.edu (mail.eecs.uic.edu [131.193.32.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20863; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atlanta.ParSysLab (atlanta.eecs.uic.edu [131.193.39.119]) by mail.eecs.uic.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA22939; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost by atlanta.ParSysLab (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA14415; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:41:55 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: solworth@parsys.eecs.uic.edu Subject: Re: Now working: suspend/resume in Linux on TP770E From: Jon Solworth In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:23:03 +0200 (MSZ)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93b56 on Emacs 20.3 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980909124155Q.solworth@parsys.eecs.uic.edu> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:41:55 -0500 X-Dispatcher: imput version 980822 Lines: 5 List-Unsubscribe: Just a confirmation that suspend works on 770E, with the new fix. Thanks to Ingo and Lee. Jon From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 13:55:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA16776 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:55:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22021; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:53:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21926; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:53:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21897; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p04.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.73]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA14584 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809091749.KAA14584@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 98 10:51:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad, OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 05:52:42 -0400, letoured@sover.net wrote: >I had the same problem with a TP560. Linksys just told me me to take the >problem to IBM and then ignored my questions. ---Eventually, I told them >to buy it back or I was going to sue them. They bought it back. > One thing I've learned is DON'T buy cheapo network cards (unless you are running Novell and just need NE1000 or NE2000 cards). It ends up causing more hastle than it's worth. Same goes for notebooks, win modems, proprietary video cards, etc. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 14:27:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA18320 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24098; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:26:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:24:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23925; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:24:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23880; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA19378 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:22:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809091822.NAA19378@dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ali-ca2-56.ix.netcom.com(209.110.224.120) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma019304; Wed Sep 9 13:22:08 1998 Subject: [tp770] warning and query Date: Wed, 9 Sep 98 11:22:07 -0700 x-sender: bfink@popd.ix.netcom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: bfink To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: Folks: Warning: Wondered if all are aware of this problem with TP770 model 9459-1AU (233/mmx, 5.1GB, 14.1" screen): Some of these have a defective motherboard that only fails when memory is added to one or either of the two DIMM slots. The failure is random and mystifying system crashes of all types--from hung screens to blue death to total system power-off. (I wiped and restored my entire system twice in a hellish week before calling IBM tech support.) Query: in the process of resolving this issue, I was told that the Viking memory chip that I had installed was "not Thinkpad-proven", and that I should replace it, even though it passed the computer's own bios tests fine. Any thoughts? Should I junk/return the 32MB DIMM and go with IBM mfg memory? rwf ________________________________________________________________________ Robert Fink | Assistant Professor | "Mr. Rochberg's quartet is -- how Dept of Musicology | did we used to put it? -- beauti- UCLA | ful." [Stanford Humanities Ctr., 98-99] | | - Donal Henahan on CURRENT EMAIL: | Rochberg's 3rd bfink@ix.netcom.com | ________________________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 14:44:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA19106 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25427; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:38:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25246; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25182; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:37:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.2-27 #9830) id <01J1LN8VJ45C9EDRAN@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:37:13 MST Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 11:27:50 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query In-reply-to: "Message dated Wed, 09 Sep 1998 11:22:07 -0700" <199809091822.NAA19378@dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <01J1LNN2FBA49EDRAN@Opus1.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > Some of these have a defective motherboard that only fails when memory is > added to one or either of the two DIMM slots. The failure is random and > mystifying system crashes of all types--from hung screens to blue death > to total system power-off. I'm going through a similar thing right now (total power off) - at first I thought it was the power management software but now it's looking like a bad 32MB ram (Kingston, even) - I went back to a 16MB part from Admor last night and it was still running this morning, although sometimes it takes a day or two to die, then it'll die a couple more times that day. At this point all I can say is I'm glad I didn't get rid of the old RAM, it's worth a lot more to me now for testing than I could have got selling it.... > (I wiped and restored my entire system twice > in a hellish week before calling IBM tech support.) I've carefully compared everything to a back up, this is not a bad file problem for me. > Query: in the process of resolving this issue, I was told that the > Viking memory chip that I had installed was "not Thinkpad-proven", and > that I should replace it, even though it passed the computer's own bios > tests fine. Any thoughts? Should I junk/return the 32MB DIMM and go > with IBM mfg memory? The 16MB part I have is the second one I tried - the first one tested fine but would produce random crashes with Netscape. So, the memory tests may not always deliver 100% accurate results... Billy Y.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 14:55:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA19619 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:55:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26503; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:51:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:51:08 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26384; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id OAA26223; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14598; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:16:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (slip-32-100-221-7.wa.us.ibm.net [32.100.221.7]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA68814 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:16:02 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980909091424.038e908c@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net> X-Sender: johncal@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 09:14:24 -0700 To: "ThinkPad List" From: John Callahan Subject: ThinkPad 560Z Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I thought the list would be interested in this announcement. It's the one I've been waiting for. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- IBM ThinkPad 560Z Offers High Performance in a Compact Design Hardware Announcement September 9, 1998 Announcement Letter Number: 198-215 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- At a Glance This slim-profile, lightweight notebook features a large 12.1-inch TFT (measured diagonally), 800 x 600 resolution, color LCD display. Packed with power and function, it includes these features: * Mobile Pentium II processor at 300 MHz or 233 MHz, with advanced technology and 512 KB of L2 cache * 64 MB or 32 MB of EDO memory standard -- expandable to 128 MB or 96 MB with Options by IBM (OBI) * High-capacity 6.4 GB or 4.0 GB, model dependent, hard disk drive (HDD) standard with password protection * Full connectivity with 56 Kbps PC card modem, 32-bit PC CardBus and ZV port support, USB port, and cableless communications with industry standard 4 Mbps IR * Full complement of high-speed ports for peripheral connections * Built-in, 16-bit mono audio (supports Sound Blaster Pro-compatible applications) * Optional Port Replicator with advanced EtherJet feature for desktop cable management, two additional PC CardBus ports, and a USB port * Preinstalled Windows 98 or Windows NT Workstation 4.0 and selected applications * One-year, limited warranty * HelpCenter (R) support available (800-772-2227) Overview The ThinkPad (R) 560Z is the latest addition to the acclaimed ThinkPad 560 family of notebook computers. With its slim 1.2-inch profile, and weighing 4.1 lb (1.88 kg) or 4.2 lb (1.93 kg)(1), depending on model, including battery, the ThinkPad 560Z is the perfect traveling companion. Latest Intel (R) Technology The ThinkPad 560Z features a Mobile Pentium (TM) II processor at 300 MHz(2) or 233 MHz, plus: * 512 KB L2 cache * 64 MB or 32 MB EDO standard (memory expandable to 128 MB or 96 MB, of EDO) * 2 MB video VRAM * Large 6.4 GB or 4.0 GB HDD(3) * Desktop function with a variety of options Bright, Beautiful Display 12.1-inch TFT(4) (measured diagonally) display with 800 x 600 resolution Features * 56 Kbps PC card modem(5) * Support Sound Blaster Pro audio applications * Windows 98 or Windows NT (R) Workstation 4.0 preinstalled Options * Port Replicator with advanced EtherJet feature * Additional Li-Ion battery * Memory options The ThinkPad 560Z offers top-notch performance and a wide range of function -- all in a slim profile and lightweight package. The ThinkPad 560Z system can easily support all your computing needs at your desk, and still give you the flexibility to take only the essentials with you when you are on the go. For the latest in product information and support for this and other ThinkPad products, visit the ThinkPad Web site at: http://www.pc.ibm.com/thinkpad Intended Customers Customers with highly mobile work patterns who need lightweight compact computers, without sacrificing advanced power or usability (1) Actual specifications may vary depending on features, vendor components, or manufacturing process. Weight does not include external diskette drive. (2) MHz only measures microprocessor internal clock speed, not application performance. Many factors affect application performance. (3) GB equals one billion bytes and MB equals one million bytes when referring to the hard disk. Actual capacity may vary. (4) Thin Film Transistor (technology of the display). (5) This modem is designed to be capable of receiving data at up to 56 Kbps from compatible service provider and transmitting data at up to 33.6 Kbps. Public networks currently limit maximum download speeds to about 53 Kbps. Actual speeds depend on many factors and are often less than the maximum possible. Planned Availability Date September 15, 1998 ------------------------------ ----- John Callahan, Editor Information Technology Research Enterprise Automation Report 2608 Second Avenue Suite 240 Member: Computer Press Association Seattle, WA 98121 USA Phone: (206) 282-7050 Web: http://www.itr.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 15:45:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA21689 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:45:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29882; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:44:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:41:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29600; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sh1.ro.com (sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29586; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jeffj@localhost) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA22892 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:41:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:41:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Jackowski To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad, OS/2 In-Reply-To: <199809090810.MAA31330@home.egenet.com.tr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, turgut kalfaoglu wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >>* When OS/2 returns from suspend mode; pretty much the same thing; the whole thing > >> freezes. I have APM drivers loaded, too. > >Which APM drivers? Warp 4, right? Which fixpack? And the 600 has APM 1.2, right? > > Yep, warp 4, fixpack 8.. I keep up with my fixpacks :) Normally thats a bad idea. Timothy Siples (?) of IBM, who regularly posts to OS/2 newsgroups, will tell you to only apply a fix if there is a poblem. I run FP6 on my ThinkPad (ran SmartSuite beta for a while), and FP4 on my desktop. Both work fine, so I'm not even upgrading. Its possible that FP8 introduces a problem for you. You might try downgrading some, and maybe informing IBM if that fixes the problem. I have similar trouble on my ThinkPad when I run the Fuel program. It used to work fine, but now it makes the system unstable an lible to crash during a power saving action, like using suspend mode. Someone mentioned staying away from cheap stuff. The IBM Home & Away adapter is cheap, but works great (at least from OS/2). Ethernet works fine, and the 14.4 modem is OK (if you don't mind a special serial port driver that limits you to the adapter's modem plus 2 standard serial ports, 57.6kbps maximum, and if dial tone detection isn't needed (ATX3)). Jeff Jackowski Unhappily running NT at work -- the only OS that can't do an alphabetical sort! (I tried on the desktop . . . ) http://ro.com/~jeff/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 16:33:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA23926 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02970; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:27:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:24:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02734; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (kglp@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02673; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kglp@localhost) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA07569; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:23:30 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:23:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Ray Bayles To: bfink cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query In-Reply-To: <199809091822.NAA19378@dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: As far as I know, the Viking has a lifetime warrantee... The only memory modules I have seen fail in a thinkpad were and IBM and a Kingston... I have never come across a documented case of failure due to a non-IBM approved module... those guys are required to mention it... but I don't think it makes a difference... There are some people on this list who will argue with that, but I just don't think there is any difference in memory... certainly none that will affect your machine... I work for an organization that has 192 Thinkpads with mostly non-approved memory chips... haven't seen problem one due to chips... have seen a few problems with non-IBM approved hard drives Ray > Query: in the process of resolving this issue, I was told that the > Viking memory chip that I had installed was "not Thinkpad-proven", and > that I should replace it, even though it passed the computer's own bios > tests fine. Any thoughts? Should I junk/return the 32MB DIMM and go > with IBM mfg memory? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 17:13:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA25686 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05574; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:09:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05335; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05323; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 770 (user-38ld2g7.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.138.7]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26848; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:07:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "William Armstrong" To: "bfink" Cc: Subject: RE: [tp770] warning and query Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:04:28 -0400 Message-ID: <000201bddc35$6e785840$f603fea9@770> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <199809091822.NAA19378@dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I have a 9549-1AU (not 9459-1AU). This is the machine you are referring to I believe. Apparently there was/is a defect on some of these machines that requires a small repair by EZServe. I had frequent "GDI" crashes that would totally freeze up the computer requiring a switch off and reboot. EZServe fixed this problem. Also had and still have a problem with paint coming off of the keyboard bezel just below and to the right of the trackpoint buttons. Others over at COMPUSERVE forum reported a similar problem with first generation 770's, but I have not read talk of it here. -Bill Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: bfink [mailto:bfink@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 1998 2:22 PM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [tp770] warning and query Folks: Warning: Wondered if all are aware of this problem with TP770 model 9459-1AU (233/mmx, 5.1GB, 14.1" screen): Some of these have a defective motherboard that only fails when memory is added to one or either of the two DIMM slots. The failure is random and mystifying system crashes of all types--from hung screens to blue death to total system power-off. (I wiped and restored my entire system twice in a hellish week before calling IBM tech support.) Query: in the process of resolving this issue, I was told that the Viking memory chip that I had installed was "not Thinkpad-proven", and that I should replace it, even though it passed the computer's own bios tests fine. Any thoughts? Should I junk/return the 32MB DIMM and go with IBM mfg memory? rwf ________________________________________________________________________ Robert Fink | Assistant Professor | "Mr. Rochberg's quartet is -- how Dept of Musicology | did we used to put it? -- beauti- UCLA | ful." [Stanford Humanities Ctr., 98-99] | | - Donal Henahan on CURRENT EMAIL: | Rochberg's 3rd bfink@ix.netcom.com | ________________________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 18:30:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA29077 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09524; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:24:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09339; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tyholt.uninett.no (tyholt.uninett.no [158.38.60.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09317; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:24:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from tikneppen.uninett.no (oak@tikneppen.uninett.no [158.38.60.70]) by tyholt.uninett.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA21447; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:24:20 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <199809092224.AAA21447@tyholt.uninett.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 To: Ingo Cyliax cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, raph@acm.org, rmiller@jam.sanbi.ac.za (Dr. Rob Miller) Subject: Re: TP 600 APM-problems with Linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Sep 1998 07:49:47 CDT." <199809091249.HAA00597@hugo.ezcomm.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:24:19 +0200 Sender: Olav.Kvittem@uninett.no List-Unsubscribe: > + My TP600 with Linux 2.0.35 and 2.1.117 hangs when returning from Suspend. > + The screen comes back fine. > + Anyone that knows about a cure og owrk going on to fix it ? > > My tp560e was doing this too. I had to undefine APM_NOINTS, i.e.: > > #undef APM_NOINTS > > in the drivers/char/apm_bios.c. This fixed the hanging problem out > of suspend. Maybe it will for you too. Yes it did indeed - now everything - even hibernation swings !-) This should be put into the Linux on TP600 pages like the ones pointed to by http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ : http://www.levien.com/tp600.html My kernel is 2.0.35 and set up like : CONFIG_APM=y # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set # CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE is not set CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK=y CONFIG_APM_POWER_OFF=y # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_MULTIPLE_SUSPEND is not set > > My backlight still doesn't come on when I resume 50% of the time. The > machine runs when this happens and I can usually get the backlight to > come on on a second suspend/resume cycle, but I think this is an > unrelated problem with the tp56e. I run the XBF_NeoMagic-driver from Redhat that works fine except problems with rightshifting the display 50 pixels or so when returning from an external screen. Reset by changing display-mode (Ctrl-Alt-KP+/-). > See ya, -ingo Thanks - have a nice net-day !-) Olav From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 19:14:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA01101 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:14:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12306; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:13:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12161; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:13:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate1.ezcomm.com (root@cyliax.bluemarble.net [204.89.253.177]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12148; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:13:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hugo.ezcomm.com (hugo.ezcomm.com [129.79.238.52]) by gate1.ezcomm.com (8.8.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA06053; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hugo.ezcomm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo.ezcomm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA02794; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:50:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199809092250.RAA02794@hugo.ezcomm.com> To: Olav.Kvittem@uninett.no cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, raph@acm.org, rmiller@jam.sanbi.ac.za (Dr. Rob Miller) Subject: Re: TP 600 APM-problems with Linux In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:24:19 +0200. <199809092224.AAA21447@tyholt.uninett.no> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 17:50:18 -0500 From: Ingo Cyliax List-Unsubscribe: + > My backlight still doesn't come on when I resume 50% of the time. The + > machine runs when this happens and I can usually get the backlight to + > come on on a second suspend/resume cycle, but I think this is an + > unrelated problem with the tp56e. + + I run the XBF_NeoMagic-driver from Redhat that works fine except + problems with rightshifting the + display 50 pixels or so when returning from an external screen. + Reset by changing display-mode (Ctrl-Alt-KP+/-). The 560e still has the Trident Cyber chipset. At least that's what the X server probes. I think the problem is in the APM bios, since it will also do it in console mode, just not as frequently. Works fine under Win95, of course, so I don't think it's a defect in the machine. See ya, -ingo From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 19:17:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA01224 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12098; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:11:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11938; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:11:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11924; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p20.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.89]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA11509; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809092307.QAA11509@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Jeff Jackowski" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 98 16:09:42 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad, OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:41:27 -0500 (CDT), Jeff Jackowski wrote: >On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, turgut kalfaoglu wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> >>* When OS/2 returns from suspend mode; pretty much the same thing; the whole thing >> >> freezes. I have APM drivers loaded, too. >> >Which APM drivers? Warp 4, right? Which fixpack? And the 600 has APM 1.2, right? >> >> Yep, warp 4, fixpack 8.. I keep up with my fixpacks :) > >Normally thats a bad idea. Timothy Siples (?) of IBM, who regularly posts >to OS/2 newsgroups, will tell you to only apply a fix if there is a >poblem. I run FP6 on my ThinkPad (ran SmartSuite beta for a while), and >FP4 on my desktop. Both work fine, so I'm not even upgrading. > Actually, the highest that you should probably upgrade to should be FP32 for Warp 3 or FP5 for Warp 4, because those include Y2K fixes. >Its possible that FP8 introduces a problem for you. You might try >downgrading some, and maybe informing IBM if that fixes the problem. > >I have similar trouble on my ThinkPad when I run the Fuel program. It used >to work fine, but now it makes the system unstable an lible to crash >during a power saving action, like using suspend mode. > >Someone mentioned staying away from cheap stuff. Probably me (and some other people). The IBM Home & Away >adapter is cheap, but works great (at least from OS/2). Ethernet works >fine, and the 14.4 modem is OK (if you don't mind a special serial port >driver that limits you to the adapter's modem plus 2 standard serial >ports, 57.6kbps maximum, and if dial tone detection isn't needed (ATX3)). > Otherwise, it's a good card. But something really cheap might be like Linksys, D-Link, or one of those cheap import cards. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 9 21:39:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA08527 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18479; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:37:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18353; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:37:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.enteract.com (thor.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18337; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17468 invoked from network); 10 Sep 1998 01:37:22 -0000 Received: from asher-19.d.enteract.com (207.229.149.115) by thor.enteract.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 1998 01:37:22 -0000 From: mocek@azb.com (Stan Mocek) To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: ThinkPad 560Z Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 20:38:57 -0500 Reply-To: mocek@azb.com Message-ID: <35f92d78.8520694@smtp.enteract.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19980909091424.038e908c@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980909091424.038e908c@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 09:14:24 -0700, John Callahan wrote: > >I thought the list would be interested in this announcement. It's the >one I've been waiting for. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- > >IBM ThinkPad 560Z Offers High Performance in a Compact Design > >Hardware Announcement >September 9, 1998 >Announcement Letter Number: 198-215 Yep - the prices (except for the NT models) are at: http://www6.pc.ibm.com/te_html/compare/ic824.html -- Stan Mocek mocek@azb.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 00:41:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA15309 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:41:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25446; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:37:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:35:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25307; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25294; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pault (client-151-200-127-199.bellatlantic.net [151.200.127.199]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id VAA15426; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005201bddc54$31bbd980$03000004@pault> From: "Paul Thomson" To: "Syclopse" Cc: Subject: Re: [Fwd: Xfree86/Linux and a 760ED] Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:44:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please do John, it would be much appreciated... Thanks, Paul -----Original Message----- From: Syclopse To: George A. Michalopoulos Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: Xfree86/Linux and a 760ED] I have the 760ED SVGA and Redhat 5.0 purrs on it with a XFree86.config fi= le I got off the web, if anyone is interested in it let me know and I'll pas= te it in a message or something. John K. -----Original Message----- From: George A. Michalopoulos To: Thinkpad Discussion Forum Date: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Fwd: Xfree86/Linux and a 760ED] At 06:00 =F0=EC 8/9/1998 -0400, James Mckenzie wrote: >Anyone with experience on XFree86 on a 760ED? I'm thinking about >installing Linux (Red Hat 5.1) and would like to know about the >"pitfalls" other than the linload procedure for Sound support. I tried more than 10 different XF86config files to get my 760ED to work. the problem is probably that my 760 ED has a SVGA display, not a XGA... George A. Michalopoulos =D3=F5=EC=E2=EF=FD=EB=E9=EF =C1=F0=EF=E4=DE=EC=EF=F5 =C5=EB=EB=E7=ED=E9=F3= =EC=EF=FD http://www.sae.gr From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 04:27:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA23384 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03069; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:26:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:24:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02858; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02844; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p07.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.76]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA07162 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 01:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809100823.BAA07162@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 10 Sep 98 01:22:33 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TPALL - Getting X to work List-Unsubscribe: How can I install the SVGA server? I have Slackware 2.0.29, and really don't want to reinstall all of X. I found out that my TP 300's chipset would fall under SVGA, even though it only has 256K of RAM. Any suggestions? If I untar and unzip it, will it go into the correct places automatically? Thanks. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 04:27:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA23397 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:27:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03073; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:25:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02944; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:25:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02931; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:25:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [158.152.127.170] (helo=moab.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zH22v-0006sT-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:25:41 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:10:28 +0100 To: ThinkPad From: Greg Terrell Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query In-Reply-To: <000201bddc35$6e785840$f603fea9@770> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 List-Unsubscribe: In message <000201bddc35$6e785840$f603fea9@770>, William Armstrong writes >I have a 9549-1AU (not 9459-1AU). This is the machine you are referring to I >believe. Apparently there was/is a defect on some of these machines that >requires a small repair by EZServe. I had frequent "GDI" crashes that would >totally freeze up the computer requiring a switch off and reboot. EZServe >fixed this problem. Hi Bill Can you give more deatail about your GDI problem please - cause and fix? I have a 9549-1A0 (233Mhz mmx, 160Mb IBM RAM, 5.1GB, 14.1" screen) and experience crashes where, according to the error message, Explorer causes GPF in GDI.EXE. It started when I upgraded from MS Office 95 to 97, started using Outlook instead of Schedule+ and installed ViaVoice98 Exec. I assumed it was memory conflict and that I needed to be more careful about what applications I had running at the same time. It has become much less frequent than it was at first - whereas it used to happen several times in a row, it now only happens occasionaly - ie not every day. TIA -- Greg Terrell From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 09:41:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA05113 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20229; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:39:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:38:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20029; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tyholt.uninett.no (tyholt.uninett.no [158.38.60.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20005; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:37:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from tikneppen.uninett.no (oak@tikneppen.uninett.no [158.38.60.70]) by tyholt.uninett.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10855; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:37:23 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <199809101337.PAA10855@tyholt.uninett.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Paul Khoury" cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: TPALL - Getting X to work In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Sep 1998 01:22:33 -0800." <199809100823.BAA07162@stevie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:37:22 +0200 Sender: Olav.Kvittem@uninett.no List-Unsubscribe: ** "Paul Khoury" wrote: ** > How can I install the SVGA server? I have Slackware 2.0.29, > and really don't want to reinstall all of X. I found out that my TP 300's chipset > would fall under SVGA, even though it only has 256K of RAM. > > Any suggestions? If I untar and unzip it, will it go into the correct places > automatically? Check wher things go before you expand: tar tf XBF_Neomagic.tar I guess the stuff will tar into /usr/X11R6/bin. See to that /usr/X11R6/bin/X points to lets say /usr/X11R6/bin/XBF_Neomagic for the server. There is also a /etc/X11/XF84Config that you should see to is the right one. Olav From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 10:33:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07216 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:33:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23683; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:33:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:31:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23545; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:31:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23529; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:31:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 770 (user-38ld1gc.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.134.12]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA09487 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:31:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad list" Subject: FW: [tp770] warning and query Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:29:07 -0400 Message-ID: <000401bddcc7$5e7d1420$f603fea9@770> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: -----Original Message----- From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] Sent: Thursday, September 10, 1998 10:28 AM To: Greg Terrell Subject: RE: [tp770] warning and query Greg, This is exactly the problem I had some time ago. It disappeared after sending machine to EZServe for warranty repair. The problem for which I sent the machine in was unrelated, but I believe that a modification of some sort was done to my machine that fixed the GDI problem. The actual problem I sent the machine in for was that the battery had stopped working. There was talk at the COMPUSERVE forum and maybe at Bill Morrow's ThinkPad forum about a jumper wire being added that solved similar "memory" type problems that other people were having. Maybe others here remember more of the details. I now don't remember if this wire was added to my machine or not. I'll have to check later when the machine is turned off. -Bill -----Original Message----- From: Greg Terrell [mailto:greg@moab.demon.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, September 10, 1998 4:10 AM To: ThinkPad Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query In message <000201bddc35$6e785840$f603fea9@770>, William Armstrong writes >I have a 9549-1AU (not 9459-1AU). This is the machine you are referring to I >believe. Apparently there was/is a defect on some of these machines that >requires a small repair by EZServe. I had frequent "GDI" crashes that would >totally freeze up the computer requiring a switch off and reboot. EZServe >fixed this problem. Hi Bill Can you give more deatail about your GDI problem please - cause and fix? I have a 9549-1A0 (233Mhz mmx, 160Mb IBM RAM, 5.1GB, 14.1" screen) and experience crashes where, according to the error message, Explorer causes GPF in GDI.EXE. It started when I upgraded from MS Office 95 to 97, started using Outlook instead of Schedule+ and installed ViaVoice98 Exec. I assumed it was memory conflict and that I needed to be more careful about what applications I had running at the same time. It has become much less frequent than it was at first - whereas it used to happen several times in a row, it now only happens occasionaly - ie not every day. TIA -- Greg Terrell From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 12:55:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA13456 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01761; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:51:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01460; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.divms.uiowa.edu (server.divms.uiowa.edu [128.255.28.165]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01446; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tractor.cs.uiowa.edu (tractor.cs.uiowa.edu [128.255.28.65]) by server.divms.uiowa.edu with id LAA21041 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:51:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199809101651.LAA21041@server.divms.uiowa.edu> Subject: TP600 (and TP770E/ED?) suspend/resume works in Linux - 560x too? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:51:24 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: bonak@cs.uiowa.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hiya, Anyone know if this works with the 560x? Or try it? CONFIG_APM=y # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set # CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE is not set CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y # CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK is not set CONFIG_APM_POWER_OFF=y CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_MULTIPLE_SUSPEND=y Esmail PS: Unless I hear from someone who already has done this, I'll give it a try and report back to the list. ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 12:55:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA13463 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:55:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01759; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:51:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01428; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01402; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tarski.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA25426; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:50:57 -1000 Received: by tarski.math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA08886; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:50:31 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199809101650.GAA08886@tarski.math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query To: kglp@cia-g.com (Ray Bayles) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 98 6:50:31 HST Cc: bfink@ix.netcom.com, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "Ray Bayles" at Sep 9, 98 2:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] List-Unsubscribe: > As far as I know, the Viking has a lifetime warrantee... > The only memory modules I have seen fail in a thinkpad were > and IBM and a Kingston... I have never come across a documented > case of failure due to a non-IBM approved module I think the operant point here is that if the module is *not* "Thinkpad proven" then IBM can claim (rightly or wrongly) that the module might somehow be at fault. Incidentally, on the 64 meg chip they sell for the 380/760 etc, Viking does *not* mention the original 560 in their packaging; I wonder if this means that their warrantee doesn't apply if something goes wrong with my chip? As for the last sentence, many peop[le on this list seem to have had 3rd party chips not work in their Thinkpads - though I don't know if the record of "proven" parts is any better than that from other companies. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 13:09:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA13972 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03146; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:07:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03029; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.86]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03004; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aztec2.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #24133) with ESMTP id <01J1MYSG92TC9CI4RU@asu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:06:56 MST Received: (from elizaw@localhost) by aztec2.asu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA18940; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:06:54 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:06:54 -0700 (MST) From: elizaw@aztec.asu.edu (ELIZA) Subject: what next? the *display hall of fame*? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-to: elizaw@aztec.asu.edu Message-id: <199809101706.KAA18940@aztec2.asu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: An "inspiring" article from the New York Times (emphasis added): ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dell Breaks a Size Barrier for Screens for Portable PC's Dell Computer has broken another barrier for screen size on portable PC's. The new Dell "Inspiron" 7000 features an active matrix screen that measures a full 15 inches. While it doesn't exactly break the four-minute mile, the new monitor does set the pace for the market-chasing portable users who want a *full display*, even at the expense of slightly sore lap (the "Inspiron" weighs in at 8.9 pounds). Priced at $2,999, the Inspiron comes with 64 megabytes of memory and a 300-MHz Pentium II Processor. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Q: What's a *full display*? :) :) :) JC [eliza@azte.asu.edu] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 13:56:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA15880 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06028; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:52:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05841; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhub2.ncal.verio.com (mailhub2.ncal.verio.com [204.247.247.54]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05826; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:52:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatcat (paix-sds-gw3-51.ncal.verio.com [207.21.129.242]) by mailhub2.ncal.verio.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA03282 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809101752.KAA03282@mailhub2.ncal.verio.com> X-Sender: sandy1@pop.ncal.verio.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:52:08 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Sandy Meltzer Subject: Win'98 and the 770ED Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello all, I've followed some of the previous discussions concerning the installation of Win'98 on the 770ED, but would appreciate a clarification. I've heard about the Win'98 ThinkPad update CD available via IBM. Since I already have Win'98, can I use my "full-version" Win'98 CD plus the various updated 770ED drivers on IBM's ThinkPad web site to easily install Win'98 on my 770ED? Also, is there any advantage/disadvantage to load Win'98 over Win'95 on the my 770ED versus doing a complete clean install of Win'98? I have both the update and full-versions of Win'98...so can go either route. I would appreciate any comments or suggestions. Thanks. --sandy sandy@sandy.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 14:04:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA16186 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06745; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:02:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:01:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06648; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06499; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA26219 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:59:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809101759.MAA26219@dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ali-ca30-55.ix.netcom.com(209.110.231.119) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma026128; Thu Sep 10 12:59:16 1998 Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query Date: Thu, 10 Sep 98 10:59:15 -0700 x-sender: bfink@popd.ix.netcom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: bfink cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: >Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query >Sent: 9/8/98 3:44 AM >Received: 9/10/98 10:51 AM >From: David Ross, ross@math.hawaii.edu >To: Ray Bayles, kglp@cia-g.com >CC: bfink@ix.netcom.com > THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > >> As far as I know, the Viking has a lifetime warrantee... >> The only memory modules I have seen fail in a thinkpad were >> and IBM and a Kingston... I have never come across a documented >> case of failure due to a non-IBM approved module > >I think the operant point here is that if the module is *not* >"Thinkpad proven" then IBM can claim (rightly or wrongly) that the >module might somehow be at fault. Incidentally, on the 64 meg chip they >sell for the 380/760 etc, Viking does *not* mention the original 560 in >their packaging; I wonder if this means that their warrantee doesn't >apply if something goes wrong with my chip? > This is exactly the point. What I'm going to do is an involuntary upgrade to 96MB--I just bought a bona-fide 32MB IBM memory chip (it's not significantly more in context of a >$3000US machine!) and I'm going to toss both chips in and see how they work. If I have to, I can then pull the Viking chip and start hassling with the mail order vendor who sold it to me, and still have the 64MB that are a minimum for the work I need to do. rwf PS: Gawd! 96MB of ram. My first computer had 3K (not M) of ram. And it had a 19" display, too. (OK, it hooked up to the TV set, but still.) And that blazing cassette-tape storage drive... Anybody want to guess the machine? :) ________________________________________________________________________ Robert Fink | Assistant Professor | "Mr. Rochberg's quartet is -- how Dept of Musicology | did we used to put it? -- beauti- UCLA | ful." [Stanford Humanities Ctr., 98-99] | | - Donal Henahan on CURRENT EMAIL: | Rochberg's 3rd bfink@ix.netcom.com | ________________________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 14:49:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA17974 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09111; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:37:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08401; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08369; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:37:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA27512 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:37:46 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199809101837.VAA27512@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:36:14 +0300 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199809090632.KAA03200@home.egenet.com.tr> Subject: Re: TP600: GSM X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.50 b48 List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 at 10:31 AM you, "turgut kalfaoglu" , said: >Hi - can someone recommend a GSM interface card for a Thinkpad 600? You didn't say what phone you had. GSM interface cards tend to be brand/model-specific, at least with Nokia phones. I have been using a Nokia DTP-2 card with my Nokia 2110 since September '94 and it has been working fine (even with OS/2 and even out of Turkey!). Unfortunately, I cannot use it with my newer Nokia 6110 (the 6110 supports GSM data with no card at all, but the Nokia Data Suite 1.2 software only works with Win95, not even with NT). HTH, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 14:54:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA18155 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:54:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09553; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:53:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:52:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09464; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09451; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p19.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.88]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA23778; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809101850.LAA23778@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "elizaw@aztec.asu.edu" Date: Thu, 10 Sep 98 11:50:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: what next? the *display hall of fame*? List-Unsubscribe: > >Q: What's a *full display*? :) :) :) > For me, 9.4 -12.1" For a notebook, I don't need anything that much bigger, though it's nice to use. For a desktop, it's a different story. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 14:59:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA18365 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10051; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:56:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09907; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from asiaonline.net (asiaonline.net [202.85.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09887; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:56:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thunder (ip96_56.asiaonline.net [202.85.96.56]) by asiaonline.net (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA07971 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:54:53 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980911025419.0072b564@asiaonline.net> X-Sender: matthewh@asiaonline.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:54:21 +0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Matthew Hung Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: UNSUBSCRIBE From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 15:33:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA19848 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12254; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:31:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12140; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12100; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pam.ege.edu.tr (pam.ege.edu.tr [155.223.16.254]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA19835; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:32:18 +0400 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199809101832.WAA19835@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "Turgut Kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Dominique Pivard" Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:31:50 +0000 Reply-To: "Turgut Kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP600: GSM List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:36:14 +0300, Dominique Pivard wrote: >On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 at 10:31 AM you, "turgut kalfaoglu" >, said: >>Hi - can someone recommend a GSM interface card for a Thinkpad 600? >You didn't say what phone you had. GSM interface cards tend to be I'm sorry - I realised it afterwards. My phone is a Panasonic G500. I hear there is an "Option International" brand/model for about $260, including shipping. Anyone have any experience with those? Yes, working with OS/2 is a must for me too.. Thanks, -turgut - --------- Turgut Kalfaoglu EgeNet http://www.egenet.com.tr BBS-TURK http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNfhhZjJjYwErN0xZAQHh5QQAh4IyPcU6/2EEnDkW/Hi2ZkT33ZWfVXwn ne8ZnON8wxfsnfTnWXDF6oXDvoIz/U+Eqs7Lj8GmLEBiQblCmtTnMQoH537JnUrb tYSgGAHcDXZ/RCEoDs4r9Xwz6jmqc5lODb/JAoZ6/cVk8f8G2LtHt2I4onXAzZwL VVZiXEzroAU= =DUwD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 16:06:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA21611 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14545; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:03:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14332; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14236; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:01:52 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.4) with ESMTP id QAA01384 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35F83005.F6FC3002@csc.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:01:09 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query - Off Topic References: <199809101759.MAA26219@dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: bfink wrote: > > PS: Gawd! 96MB of ram. My first computer had 3K (not M) of ram. And > it had a 19" display, too. (OK, it hooked up to the TV set, but still.) > And that blazing cassette-tape storage drive... > > Anybody want to guess the machine? > I'm guessing it was a TSR-80 or some other early Tandy. That's one of the few home computers I can think of that came before my Atari 400 (which had a whopping 16K). It did use the TV and a cassette drive though! Heck, before I conned Mom into buying the $80 cassette drive for me I had to type in all the programs I wanted to run. Not the easiest especially on that chiclet keyboard. Later, Rob ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ----------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 16:13:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA21954 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15215; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:11:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15083; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:11:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bessie.eunet.fi (bessie.eunet.fi [192.26.119.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15049; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:10:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kettu (joakim.pp.fi [193.66.77.210]) by bessie.eunet.fi (8.8.7/8.8.3) with SMTP id XAA23454 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:10:53 +0300 (EDT) Message-ID: <004f01bddd4b$3948f410$d24d42c1@kettu> From: "Jukka Ketelaars" To: Subject: Re: TP600: GSM Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:12:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 List-Unsubscribe: >Unfortunately, I >cannot use it with my newer Nokia 6110 (the 6110 supports GSM data with no >card at all, but the Nokia Data Suite 1.2 software only works with Win95, >not even with NT). I have the same problem wanting to connect my 6110 to a TP600 running NT. The Nokia site says the Data Suite 2.0 is released this month, and that it will support NT. Does anyone know whether it has already been released? (BTW, the pictures on the Nokia site are with thinkpads). Cheers, Jukka From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 16:31:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA22795 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:31:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16632; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:28:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16461; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from glacier.binc.net (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16428; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rkarp (msn-8-10.binc.net [205.173.178.137]) by glacier.binc.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA13326; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:28:15 -0500 Message-ID: <000401bddcf9$8328d2a0$89b2adcd@rkarp.humana.com> Reply-To: "Robert J. Karp" From: "Robert J. Karp" To: , "Sandy Meltzer" Subject: Re: Win'98 and the 770ED Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:28:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Meltzer To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thursday, September 10, 1998 12:54 PM Subject: Win'98 and the 770ED >Hello all, > >I've followed some of the previous discussions concerning the >installation of Win'98 on the 770ED, but would appreciate a >clarification. > >I've heard about the Win'98 ThinkPad update CD available via IBM. >Since I already have Win'98, can I use my "full-version" Win'98 CD >plus the various updated 770ED drivers on IBM's ThinkPad web site >to easily install Win'98 on my 770ED? I am totally unfamiliar with the update CD but I can assure you that you can install Win98 using the retail CD clean or on top of Win95 and update the ThinkPad Utility program and any drivers that require updating. Be sure you update your BIOS (system program) before you begin. Also, follow IBM's instructions to the letter whichever way you go. If nothing else, this will enable Tech Support to better help you should you need their assistance. >Also, is there any advantage/disadvantage to load Win'98 over Win'95 >on the my 770ED versus doing a complete clean install of Win'98? I >have both the update and full-versions of Win'98...so can go either >route. I always prefer to install clean. This assures you rid yourself of any "junk" hanging around on your system or within the Registry. It also makes it much easier to diagnose any problems after installation, should you have any (because you should then know what all of the software and drivers are that exist on your system in case one may be what is causing the trouble). I have installed Win98 both ways. One thing I was unprepared for and which really annoyed me when installing Win98 on top of Win95 is that if you still have your Setuplog.txt file hanging around in your root directory, Win98 will *not* give you the chance to choose what components you want installed. It will just replicate the installation choices it finds in the Setuplog.txt file. In my case, that involved a whole host of components I had gotten rid of over the years. As I said, that really annoyed me. > >I would appreciate any comments or suggestions. Thanks. > > --sandy > sandy@sandy.com > I hope everything works out for you. Win98 has given me some troubles (I'd have to honestly categorize them as minor annoyances) but they aren't very common as I haven't been able to find anyone else with the same set of issues. Don't ask me what they are ... if you wind up with any of them, we'll talk ! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 16:54:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA23834 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:54:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19197; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:51:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19027; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:51:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19010; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA08625 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:51:50 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199809102051.XAA08625@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:50:17 +0300 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <004f01bddd4b$3948f410$d24d42c1@kettu> Subject: Re: TP600: GSM X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.50 b48 List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 at 11:12 PM you, "Jukka Ketelaars" , said: >I have the same problem wanting to connect my 6110 to a TP600 running NT. >The Nokia site says the Data Suite 2.0 is released this month, and that >it will support NT. Does anyone know whether it has already been >released? (BTW, the pictures on the Nokia site are with thinkpads). Don't know about NDS 2.0, but I think Nokia is about as good as Microsoft in meeting deadlines ;-) You may consider the Option International PC card mentioned by Turgut. Have a look at: http://www.mobileworld.fi/option/gsmonly.htm http://www.option.com/ The Option card allows you to use any operating system and it's already available today. HTH, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 17:02:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA24216 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20090; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:01:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:00:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19976; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:00:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx (cortes.cibnor.mx [200.23.161.225]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19954; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:00:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx by cortes.cibnor.mx id aa06455; 10 Sep 98 15:00 MDT Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:00:03 -0600 (MDT) From: Larry Miller To: Rob Bell cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query - Off Topic In-Reply-To: <35F83005.F6FC3002@csc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > > PS: Gawd! 96MB of ram. My first computer had 3K (not M) of ram. And > > it had a 19" display, too. (OK, it hooked up to the TV set, but still.) > > And that blazing cassette-tape storage drive... > > > > Anybody want to guess the machine? CBM Vic-20? Saludos-- Larry Larry Miller Administrador de Redes / Network Administrator Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico lmiller@cibnor.mx http://www.cibnor.mx/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 17:23:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA25175 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:23:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22212; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:22:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22046; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.us.fortis.com (ns.us.fortis.com [167.79.91.99]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22034; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:21:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.us.fortis.com (root@localhost) by ns.us.fortis.com with ESMTP id QAA10073 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:23:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mime.us.fortis.com (mime.us.fortis.com [167.79.12.2]) by ns.us.fortis.com with ESMTP id QAA10069 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:23:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from US.FORTIS.COM (unverified [167.79.36.4]) by mime.us.fortis.com (Integralis SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:18:33 -0600 Received: from WOODBYGATE-Message_Server by US.FORTIS.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:14:59 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:17:49 -0600 From: Mike Hunziker To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query - Off Topic -Reply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: I had a TI computer and no cassette also...I'd type in a program I wrote every Friday so I'd have it for the weekend. I typed the damn thing in so many times I knew every for-next loop by heart. What a relief when I got a cable to write programs to a standard cassette player. It revolutionized my world at the time! I think that machine had 16K if I remember correctly. >>> Rob Bell 09/10/98 02:01pm >>> bfink wrote: > > PS: Gawd! 96MB of ram. My first computer had 3K (not M) of ram. And > it had a 19" display, too. (OK, it hooked up to the TV set, but still.) > And that blazing cassette-tape storage drive... > > Anybody want to guess the machine? > >I'm guessing it was a TSR-80 or some other early Tandy. That's one of >the few home computers I can think of that came before my Atari 400 >(which had a whopping 16K). It did use the TV and a cassette drive >though! Heck, before I conned Mom into buying the $80 cassette drive >for me I had to type in all the programs I wanted to run. Not the >easiest especially on that chiclet keyboard. >Later, >Rob >----------------------------------------- >Rob Bell >Senior Consultant, CPD Professional >CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN >rob_bell@nospam@csi.com >----------------------------------------- **************************************************************** Please Note The information in this E-mail message is legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you, the reader of this message, are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you should not further disseminate, distribute, or forward this E-mail message. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender. Thank you ***************************************************************** From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 17:53:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA26724 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24257; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:47:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24131; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (daemon@smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24091; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22447 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:46:59 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199809102146.OAA22447@smtp04.primenet.com> Received: from ip57-010.tol.primenet.com(206.165.57.10), claiming to be "pzawodny" via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd022431; Thu Sep 10 14:46:54 1998 X-Sender: zawodny@pop.primenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:46:13 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Dave Zawodny Subject: Fwd: Re: [tp770] warning and query - Off Topic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:00:03 -0600 (MDT) >From: Larry Miller >To: Rob Bell >cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query - Off Topic >List-Unsubscribe: > >> > PS: Gawd! 96MB of ram. My first computer had 3K (not M) of ram. And >> > it had a 19" display, too. (OK, it hooked up to the TV set, but still.) >> > And that blazing cassette-tape storage drive... >> > >> > Anybody want to guess the machine? > >CBM Vic-20? > >Saludos-- Larry > >Larry Miller >Administrador de Redes / Network Administrator >Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico >lmiller@cibnor.mx http://www.cibnor.mx/ Howse bout a SWTP 6800 :-) Regards, Z From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 18:30:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA28512 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26837; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:26:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26489; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26455; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:25:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-12.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.12]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id SAA03500; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980910182059.007608f8@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:20:59 -0400 To: Rob Bell , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query - Off Topic In-Reply-To: <35F83005.F6FC3002@csc.com> References: <199809101759.MAA26219@dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 03:01 PM 9/10/98 -0500, Rob Bell wrote: >bfink wrote: >> >> PS: Gawd! 96MB of ram. My first computer had 3K (not M) of ram. And >> it had a 19" display, too. (OK, it hooked up to the TV set, but still.) >> And that blazing cassette-tape storage drive... >> >> Anybody want to guess the machine? >> > >I'm guessing it was a TSR-80 or some other early Tandy. That's one of >the few home computers I can think of that came before my Atari 400 >(which had a whopping 16K). It did use the TV and a cassette drive >though! Heck, before I conned Mom into buying the $80 cassette drive >for me I had to type in all the programs I wanted to run. Not the >easiest especially on that chiclet keyboard. Ack, Atari 400's came with a membrane keyboard. Similar to the Sinclair 1000, but with individual spacers at least. :) Either case, it was horrendous. Atari 400 was my first computer too. After the "wonders" of the Atari 2600 VCS, how could Atari produce a substandard 'puter. ;) TRS-80 Model's I-IV came with displays. I would say a TRS-80 Color computer, Sinclair 1000, or TRS-80 Color Computer. ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 19:11:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00271 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28523; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:09:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28391; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail3.noc.netcom.net (mail3.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.151]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28375; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denver.servicemetrics.com (denver.servicemetrics.com [207.221.189.100]) by mail3.noc.netcom.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/(NETCOM v2.00)) with SMTP id QAA25159 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ssh-sm by denver.servicemetrics.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA04306; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:07:12 -0600 From: "Steve Hultquist" To: Subject: Disk drives for Thinkpad 765D? Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:11:04 -0600 Message-ID: <003201bddd10$487e64a0$a40e002d@ssh-sm.noc.interop.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 List-Unsubscribe: Anyone know where I can get large disk drives for the 765D? I'd need both the disk and caddy. Any pointers *very* much appreciated! Thanks! -- Steve Hultquist, VP Network Services Service Metrics, Inc. the best measure of performance +1.303.381.0888 Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@servicemetrics.com http://www.servicemetrics.com/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 22:21:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA07938 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06395; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:15:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:13:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06209; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06196; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bp ([12.70.21.135]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980911021244.KPQT1683@bp>; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:12:44 +0000 Message-ID: <35F88707.6632@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:12:23 -0400 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Hultquist CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Disk drives for Thinkpad 765D? References: <003201bddd10$487e64a0$a40e002d@ssh-sm.noc.interop.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Steve Hultquist wrote: > > Anyone know where I can get large disk drives for the 765D? I'd need both > the disk and caddy. Any pointers *very* much appreciated! Go to http://www.thinkpads.com Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 10 23:51:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA11749 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10794; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:43:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10501; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10486; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bp ([12.70.21.174]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980911034216.MSJG1683@bp>; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 03:42:16 +0000 Message-ID: <35F89C03.19CE@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:41:55 -0400 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sandy Meltzer CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Win'98 and the 770ED References: <199809101752.KAA03282@mailhub2.ncal.verio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Sandy Meltzer wrote: > > > Also, is there any advantage/disadvantage to load Win'98 over Win'95 > on the my 770ED versus doing a complete clean install of Win'98? I > have both the update and full-versions of Win'98...so can go either > route. > > I would appreciate any comments or suggestions. Thanks. I have a 770-1 A U, and was not fortunate enough to have the IBM Windows98 updates disks. The nice thing about the IBM Windows98 update disks is that all the necessary drivers are installed for you. On one hard disk I did the clean install of Windows98 and then had to install the 11 features or drivers downloaded from the web site. On the other hard disk I installed Windows98 on top of Windows 95 and still had to install some features and drivers downloaded from the web site. That is the IBM Web site. I used the full version of Windows98 in both cases. During the installation of programs on both hard disks, apparently I messed up something. So all that I did was put in the windows 98 will version does and installed on top of Windows 98. No problem. I do not know if you can do this with the IBM Windows98 update disks. I know that I did it with fat 32 configuration. I do not believe that you can do that with the IBM Windows 98 upgrade disks. Apparently you lose IBM Power saving features doing a clean install. However I believe that Microsoft and IBM will have updates the latter part of this month or next month. I have another hard disk with only Windows95 which is as furnished by IBM. Installing Windows 98 eliminates a couple of nice programs such as Ring Central, Video Phone, Voyetra, and Config Safe. So you might say "What's the rush" Birger. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 00:05:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA12277 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12094; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:04:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:03:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11879; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:03:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.85]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11844; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailstub@localhost) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id VAA09917; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809110403.VAA09917@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> From: "Teresa Selling" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:03:17 +0000 Reply-To: "Teresa Selling" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Difference between SelectaDock 2 & 3 List-Unsubscribe: Could someone tell me the basic differences between a SelectaDock II vs a SelectaDock III. I recently purchased what was supposed to be a customer return SelectaDock III, but turns out to be a SelectaDock II in a SelectaDock III box. It was $450. What are the cons of the SelectaDock II and the 770 model? What should the going price be for this (if it will meet my needs, may try to get them to refund some $$ and keep it). --- Teresa Selling E-Mail: tselling@ibm.net Colorado Springs, CO From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 01:35:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA15742 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15980; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:32:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15673; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ecom.net ([207.155.73.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15633; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:32:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lou (c6ppp115.ecom.net [207.155.74.115]) by amber.ecom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA03653 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:32:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louw@prefer.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980910223111.00994430@ecom.net> X-Sender: louw@ecom.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:31:11 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: Good photo of a Thinkpad keyboard Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone have a URL of a good photo of a ThinkPad keyboard? I need to show the location of the cursor button. Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 01:35:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA15747 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15978; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:32:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15650; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ecom.net ([207.155.73.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15631; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lou (c6ppp115.ecom.net [207.155.74.115]) by amber.ecom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA03649 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:32:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louw@prefer.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980910222954.00985c30@ecom.net> X-Sender: louw@ecom.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:29:54 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: Change drives in a 385? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I know that the hd in the 385 is not normally a removable drive but is there anyway, at all, it can be changed? Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 03:05:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA19173 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 03:05:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19111; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 03:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 03:04:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19002; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 03:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18990; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p03.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.72]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA02110 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809110703.AAA02110@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 11 Sep 98 00:03:08 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TPALL - X Windows problems List-Unsubscribe: I've having problems starting up X Windows on my ThinkPad. The VGA16 server doesn't work, the SVGA server sorta works, but complains I don't have enough RAM. Is there any way I can run X on my ThinkPad 300? Thanks. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 09:12:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA02144 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:12:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08529; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:11:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:08:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08207; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:08:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08194; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm.net (slip129-37-92-237.mi.us.ibm.net [129.37.92.237]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA24262; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:07:49 GMT Message-ID: <35F8F5B7.E9AE7AB7@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:04:39 -0400 From: Joe Suttle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04b1 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: elizaw@aztec.asu.edu CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: what next? the *display hall of fame*? References: <199809101706.KAA18940@aztec2.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: a 15 inch display should make for a laptop/notebook the size of my old NEC 80c88, and that's gotta take some power too. I thought we were trying to get smaller. If that's the way they want to go, then maybe we need to go back to the 'lunch boxes' that will take ISA add-on cards. -- Joe Suttle * Warp Certified System Specialist joesuttle@ibm.net Hercules, California +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail. - Abraham Maslow +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Powered by OS/2 Warp 4 fp7, Warp Server, SmartSuite and Netscape 4.04 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 09:30:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA02953 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10551; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:30:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:29:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10403; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10391; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:28:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from 4u.net (ppp-45.tc-1.dbry.smartworld.net [207.121.216.47]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id JAA08122; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35F9344C.8FFABB43@4u.net> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:31:41 -0500 Reply-To: bippop@4u.net Organization: Jubilado... 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Unsubscribe, please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Unsubscribe, please From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 11:02:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA06766 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:02:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17002; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:58:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16490; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16431; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id JAA11557 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:59:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:59:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: FS: New ThinkPad 365 Battery Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I'm sorry to poast this again, but I promise this is my last try to sell this item, which I bought by accident on an Auction web site. New in Factory sealed box Xtend Micro Products #B303 battery for all ThinkPad 365 models. Specs at http://www.xmpi.com/html/ibm_nb.html Higher capacity then IBM's original battery. One year waranty (hopefully with registartion card in box). Best price (from Pricewatch.com) is $85 at buycomp.com, but I am selling for US$65 plus shipping ($3 for US address). E-mail if interested. Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 13:32:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA13512 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:32:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26737; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:31:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:22:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25991; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25976; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA22555 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:21:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809111721.MAA22555@rgate2.ricochet.net> X-Sender: geary@bolero.rahul.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:21:40 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Geary Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Fri, 11 Sep 1998 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >An "inspiring" article from the New York Times (emphasis added): > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Dell Breaks a Size Barrier for Screens for Portable PC's > > Dell Computer has broken another barrier for screen size on > portable PC's. The new Dell "Inspiron" 7000 features an active > matrix screen that measures a full 15 inches. > > While it doesn't exactly break the four-minute mile, the new > monitor does set the pace for the market-chasing portable users > who want a *full display*, even at the expense of slightly sore > lap (the "Inspiron" weighs in at 8.9 pounds). Priced at $2,999, > the Inspiron comes with 64 megabytes of memory and a 300-MHz > Pentium II Processor. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Q: What's a *full display*? :) :) :) It's a 1024x768 display with bigger pixels. No more pixels, no more capability than the 13.3" display on my ThinkPad 600 or even the 12.1" display on my 760E. Just bigger pixels. Wake me up when they do something interesting, like a 1280x960 display... Of course, news reports never mention little details like this. -Mike http://www.geary.com mailto:mg@mg.to ham:WJ6V From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 13:58:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14598 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28452; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:55:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28334; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28268; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p19.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.88]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA26924; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809111752.KAA26924@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "bippop@4u.net" , "Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 11 Sep 98 10:52:47 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Unsubscribe, please List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:31:41 -0500, bippop@4u.net wrote: >List-Unsubscribe: >X-UIDL: 15a6ebd36224091c13baf6d5b0e712a8 > >Unsubscribe, please You know, it would help if you people try reading the headers and the unsubscribe CORRECTLY! -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 13:59:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14653 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28588; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:57:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28476; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:57:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28449; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p19.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.88]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA27343; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809111755.KAA27343@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Michael Geary" Date: Fri, 11 Sep 98 10:55:51 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Fri, 11 Sep 1998 List-Unsubscribe: >It's a 1024x768 display with bigger pixels. No more pixels, no more >capability than the 13.3" display on my ThinkPad 600 or even the 12.1" >display on my 760E. Just bigger pixels. Wake me up when they do something >interesting, like a 1280x960 display... Or a 21" LCD for desktops and high-end UNIX workstations that costs maybe $500 more than similiar CRTs. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 14:15:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA15327 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00148; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:11:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:10:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29931; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from blackhole.tp.ac.com (blackhole.tp.ac.com [204.167.146.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29894; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from junior.tp.ac.com (junior.tp.ac.com [10.10.57.2]) by blackhole with SMTP (DuhMail/3.0) id NAA10637; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:35:39 -0500 Received: from thinkchad ([10.2.100.36]) by junior.tp.ac.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA21365; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:09:13 -0500 From: burkey@cstar.ac.com (Chad Burkey) Reply-To: Sender: "Chad Burkey" To: Subject: RE: what next? the *display hall of fame*? Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:09:46 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I believe that IBM's Roentgen display technology will be the next big things for display technologies in general (especially in notebooks). Check out: http://www.sjmercury.com/business/tech/docs/050690.htm for a more thorough description. They must have a interpreting layer between the graphics card and the bitmapped display of Windows. Without this, a font 20x30 pixels that is perfectly readable on a standard display will be nearly invisible on the Roentgen. If they have the layer, they have basically achieved what DisplayPostScript did for the NeXT. If it works, the results must be simply breathtaking. Chad -----Original Message----- From: Joe Suttle [mailto:joesuttle@ibm.net] Sent: Friday, September 11, 1998 3:05 am To: elizaw@aztec.asu.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: what next? the *display hall of fame*? a 15 inch display should make for a laptop/notebook the size of my old NEC 80c88, and that's gotta take some power too. I thought we were trying to get smaller. If that's the way they want to go, then maybe we need to go back to the 'lunch boxes' that will take ISA add-on cards. -- Joe Suttle * Warp Certified System Specialist joesuttle@ibm.net Hercules, California +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail. - Abraham Maslow +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Powered by OS/2 Warp 4 fp7, Warp Server, SmartSuite and Netscape 4.04 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 14:43:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA16514 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01991; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:39:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01709; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from snail.ecs.umass.edu (snail.ecs.umass.edu [128.119.91.94]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01666; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu (rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu [128.119.71.47]) by snail.ecs.umass.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA28236 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BDDD91.EEEA2280@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu>; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:39:08 -0400 Message-ID: <01BDDD91.EEEA2280@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu> From: Axel Hartmann To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: re: unsubscribe, please Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:39:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: oh, and the reply-to should be changed to the list, my answer only went to paul the first time around... __________________________original reply follows: hi all, having the comment in the header is very nice, but headers were never meant to be displayed to the reader, much less read. they are protocol, not content. you don't read the IP-packet headers when your dial-up connection fails, do you? some email programs make it easy to display the headers, some make it difficult. i don't think that at this stage in internet development you can demand of users to check email headers anymore. axel ps: i guess this means that a note should be added to the bottom of the mails coming from the list... pss: pleas don't flame me too much, i'm busy as is. %>List-Unsubscribe: %>X-UIDL: 15a6ebd36224091c13baf6d5b0e712a8 %> %>Unsubscribe, please % %You know, it would help if you people try reading the headers and the unsubscribe %CORRECTLY! ............................................................................ . Axel Hartmann . . Paper'n'People : 33 Meadow Street; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . . Voice : +1 (413) 549 - 6113 , Fax on demand . ............................................................................ . Office : Dept. of Chemical Engineering; UMass; Amherst, MA 01003 . . Office Phone : +1 (413) 577 - 1235 Fax: +1 (413) 545 - 1649 . . E-Mail : axhartma@risky.ecs.umass.edu . . Homepage : http://rheoserver.pse.umass.edu/users/axel/index.html . ............................................................................ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 14:59:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA17222 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03014; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:55:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:54:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02884; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:54:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02851; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p00.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.69]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA05453 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809111853.LAA05453@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 11 Sep 98 11:53:40 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: re: unsubscribe, please List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:39:05 -0400, Axel Hartmann wrote: >oh, and the reply-to should be changed to the list, my answer only went to >paul the first time around... And I forgot to reply to list as well... >__________________________original reply follows: > >hi all, > >having the comment in the header is very nice, but headers were never meant >to be displayed to the reader, much less read. they are protocol, not content. you >don't read the IP-packet headers when your dial-up connection fails, do you? > >some email programs make it easy to display the headers, some make it >difficult. i don't think that at this stage in internet development you can demand >of users to check email headers anymore. > >axel > >ps: i guess this means that a note should be added to the bottom of the mails >coming from the list... > >pss: pleas don't flame me too much, i'm busy as is. Same here, I've got work, school, and other stuff to deal with... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 17:34:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA24579 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11747; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:32:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11551; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11537; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:31:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle (miracle.mak.com [207.86.232.103]) by mak.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA05363 for <@mak.mak.com:thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA03050 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:16:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:16:45 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: ThinkPad List Subject: New hard drive (NT) In-Reply-To: <199809090627.XAA26379@ritchie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: These things just keep getting smaller and smaller... http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9809/11/stampdrive.idg/index.html -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 17:41:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA25089 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:41:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12445; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:39:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:38:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12337; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:38:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12319; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle (miracle.mak.com [207.86.232.103]) by mak.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA05445 for <@mak.mak.com:thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:42:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA03259 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:23:43 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:23:41 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: New hard drive (OT) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Grr, that should've been (OT) for Off Topic. :-) -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 11 20:15:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA27963 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:15:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18388; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:13:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18215; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:13:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18203; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:13:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from 4u.net (ppp-18.tc-1.dbry.smartworld.net [207.121.216.20]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id UAA18007; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:13:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35F9CB41.24AB6CD1@4u.net> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:15:53 -0500 Reply-To: bippop@4u.net Organization: Jubilado... Gone Surfin'. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe I've unsubscribed from other lists before, but I can't disengage myself >from this one despite several attempts. I've tried the address given below, but it gets bounced back to me: <%>List-Unsubscribe: Sorry to bother you on the list, but there must be another, and better way. Thanks, Tom McA. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 12 06:37:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA06246 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 06:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12205; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 06:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 12 Sep 1998 06:34:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12058; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 06:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.xlink.net (relay.xlink.net [193.141.40.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12045; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 06:34:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from fwvx2301.huk-coburg.de ([194.121.220.195]) by relay.xlink.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA09210 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:33:32 +0200 Received: from insc3000.huk-coburg.de (unverified) by fwvx2301.huk-coburg.de (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Sa, 12 Sep 1998 12:30:14 +0200 Received: from huk-coburg.de ([172.16.13.66]) by insc3000.huk-coburg.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 167 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:29:01 +0200 Message-Id: <35FAA243.C2254641@huk-coburg.de> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:33:08 -0400 Reply-To: wolfgang.mueller@huk-coburg.de Organization: HUK-COBURG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04b1 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubcribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubcribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 12 13:50:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA13926 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21278; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:50:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:46:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21002; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20989; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:46:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALHOST by vixen.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id NAA08017; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:46:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809121746.NAA08017@vixen.cs.utk.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Subject: IMPORTANT MESSAGE: HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:46:25 -0400 From: Judi Theg Talley List-Unsubscribe: This is a friendly reminder. If you don't want to receive this list anymore, send a message to thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu with "unsubscribe" in either the body or the subject (or both, I don't care as long as you say it somewhere.) I don't read the list; I'm the postmaster here and just run the scripts to manipulate the mail list for you, so sending to the list won't get you what you want unless someone gets tired of seeing your posts to the list and forwards it to thinkpad-request. Thanks, Judi ---- Judith Theg Talley, System Admin Innovative Computing Labs ICL Help Computer Science Department Postmaster University of Tennessee http://www.cs.utk.edu/~judi/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 12 14:11:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA14279 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22086; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:09:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:09:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21977; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ecom.net ([207.155.73.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21964; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lou (c6ppp144.ecom.net [207.155.74.144]) by amber.ecom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA16603 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:08:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louw@prefer.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980912110838.007f6210@ecom.net> X-Sender: louw@ecom.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:08:38 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: URGENT-help needed! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I was repartitoning a 385 Thinkpad using Fdisk. It rebooted before I redefined any partitions. I have a restore boot floppy in the floppy drive. When it reboots I see the IBM logo at the top right, then THINKPAD at the bottom left. Then the screen goes blank and now displayed is I9990305. What do I do now? I can't find the IBM tech support phone number. Does anyone know it? Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 12 14:16:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA14335 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:16:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22565; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:16:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:15:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22449; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22436; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (sf-dnpqb-046.compuserve.net [209.154.96.46]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA04022; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000f01bdde79$67bb0200$0201a8c0@greasygirl> From: "David W. Taylor" To: , "Lou" Subject: Re: URGENT-help needed! Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:16:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Lou, Keep your hands away from your ThinkPad in case you do even more damage and call IBM at 1-800-772-2227. I hesitate to ask but did you do a backup? David -----Original Message----- From: Lou To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Saturday, September 12, 1998 11:09 AM Subject: URGENT-help needed! >I was repartitoning a 385 Thinkpad using Fdisk. It rebooted before I >redefined any partitions. I have a restore boot floppy in the floppy >drive. When it reboots I see the IBM logo at the top right, then THINKPAD >at the bottom left. Then the screen goes blank and now displayed is >I9990305. > > >What do I do now? > >I can't find the IBM tech support phone number. Does anyone know it? > > >Warm regards, > >-lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 12 14:18:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA14347 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22777; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:17:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:17:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22640; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:17:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mi.verio.com (newmail.mi.verio.com [209.69.71.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22605; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:16:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from billb (66-143.pop.fh.gle.verio.com [209.69.66.143]) by mail.mi.verio.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA05911; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980912141634.007f7100@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:16:34 -0400 To: "Robert F. Munzenrider" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: Upgrading 701 with AMD586 chip In-Reply-To: <199809071715.NAA37042@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 01:23 PM 9/7/98 -0400, you wrote: >>>>From: Bill Bryan >>>> >>>> I have an upgraded 701C to a 586 processor and 36Mb ram. Win98 loaded >>>>fine but the unit doesn't seem to wake-up out of suspend mode if it's been >Let me ask a tangential question: Do you see enough improvement in >performance >of the 701 with the AMD586 microprocessor as compared to the original >Intel486/75 >to make you feel that the upgrade is cost-effective? > >Bob Munzenrider >Penn State Harrisburg > No. It's better but the money would be better spent on a faster laptop... B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 12 14:27:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA14492 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:27:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23391; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:26:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:25:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23278; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:25:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ecom.net ([207.155.73.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23265; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:25:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lou (c6ppp144.ecom.net [207.155.74.144]) by amber.ecom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA17446 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:25:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louw@prefer.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980912112437.00812da0@ecom.net> X-Sender: louw@ecom.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:24:37 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: I have Support Phone number Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I now have the support phone number. Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 12 14:40:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA14680 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24265; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:38:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24152; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:38:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ecom.net ([207.155.73.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24139; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lou (c6ppp144.ecom.net [207.155.74.144]) by amber.ecom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA18043 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:38:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louw@prefer.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980912113746.009ade30@ecom.net> X-Sender: louw@ecom.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:37:46 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: Re: URGENT-help needed!-Problem solved In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980912110838.007f6210@ecom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: IBM Support came through. I had forgotten about the EZ-Setup. Turn off computer. Hold down F1 key, turn on computer. He suggested that the sequence in cases like this to have the startup sequence start with floppy disk, hard drive, CD ROM. As I am typing this on my desktop computer, it is reformatting the hard drive. Now I can breathe again. Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 12 19:27:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA19229 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 19:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02306; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 19:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 12 Sep 1998 19:25:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02206; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 19:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02194; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 19:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user (158.hartford-06-07rs.ct.dial-access.att.net [12.79.34.158]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA08480 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 19:25:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809122325.TAA08480@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 19:24:57 -0400 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TP770ED] Battery recharge strange behavior Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone seen this weird behavior?: I was using the 770ED from the battery. It ran down to 4%, and I plugged in the AC. The machine proceeded to use the AC power, but the battery did not charge. I continued using the machine for about half an hour, and the battery never charged (it stayed at 4%, and the little charging arrow never appeared on the LCD). After I shutdown the machine, the battery eventually (I don't know how long it took) began to recharge. Anyone have any theories on this one? I was pretty irritated. Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 12 21:24:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA20656 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:24:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05669; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:21:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05576; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05560; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AMDK6300.TECHGAP.innernet.net ([205.130.18.226]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 7910300 ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:29:47 -0400 Message-ID: <001401bddeb4$d46350c0$e21282cd@AMDK6300.TECHGAP.innernet.net> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad" , "Ken" Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Battery recharge strange behavior Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:53:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >Anyone have any theories on this one? I was pretty irritated. Don't know much about the specific model, but did you notice the temp of the unit or battery? In an old compaq I had, it wouldn't begin to charge if the overall system temp was too high. As you know, batteries will heat up when charged. This would explain why it worked afterwards. TTYL -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 12 23:49:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA22947 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 23:49:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10338; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 23:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 12 Sep 1998 23:46:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10198; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 23:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm04sm.pmm.mci.net (pm04sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.153]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10183; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 23:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcione.com (usr48-dialup2.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27036) with ESMTP id <0EZ700C5AEGRJ3@PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:46:04 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 22:48:04 -0500 From: Jim Schneider Subject: 770E won't hibernate anymore To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <35FB4074.72C82C@mcione.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: When I try to hibernate or suspend, now I get a blue error screen. It used to work. The message says : Invalid VxD dynamic link call from SSPCCRDX(03) +0001B1F to device "33A7", service 1. Your Windows configuration is invalid. Run the windows setup program again to correct this problem. What windows setup program? What do you choose when you get into it ? Thanks, Jim Schneider From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 00:14:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA23295 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:14:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11360; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:11:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11250; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:11:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11238; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (sf-dnpqb-046.compuserve.net [209.154.96.46]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA10640; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002e01bddecc$b0c33640$0201a8c0@greasygirl> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Jim Schneider" , Subject: Re: 770E won't hibernate anymore Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:11:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Come on, Jim. You'll need to do better than that. What Operating System: NT, 95, 98 or gawd help you, Linux or OS/2? What version? What configuration of machine? Give us some more to work on... David -----Original Message----- From: Jim Schneider To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Saturday, September 12, 1998 8:48 PM Subject: 770E won't hibernate anymore >When I try to hibernate or suspend, now I get a blue error screen. It >used to work. >The message says : > >Invalid VxD dynamic link call from SSPCCRDX(03) +0001B1F to device >"33A7", service 1. >Your Windows configuration is invalid. Run the windows setup program >again to >correct this problem. > > >What windows setup program? >What do you choose when you get into it ? > >Thanks, Jim Schneider From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 00:44:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA23722 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12629; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:42:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12535; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12521; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:41:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sony ([12.79.12.201]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980913044122.QUMA23468@sony> for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:41:22 +0000 From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: Subject: DVD on ThinkPad 760"s! Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:37:49 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980913044122.QUMA23468@sony> List-Unsubscribe: Hello list just wanted to tell you about a new product that I just bought that may be of some interest... Sony has out a portable DVD player. It has S-video and composit A/V outputs, AS well as PCM and Dolby. It weighs around one pound, and can run off of Sony CAMCORDER Li-Ion batteries!!! It plugs right into the video in port of a TP 760ED, 760XD, 765D, 755CDV, 75X with a TV tuner, and probably a bunch of 770's (don;t know which have an overlay). On my 760ED wtih the SVGA screen, it looks very good indeed! On the XGA screen of my Sony, just awesome! Of course, you can use a monitor and watch it on a larger screen (and obviously on a TV, as that is what this player is actually made for. Cost was $675 mail order, and the 2.5 hour Lithium battery was $75.00 The player will automatically charge the battery. Considering the cost of the IBM DVD drive and adaptor, this should be a viable alternative. And since this is an actual hardware player, most of the issues that arise using laptop DVD palyback (which always involves some software) should not exist. The player can be seen on the Sony website. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 00:49:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA23766 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:49:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13026; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:46:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12888; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12875; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user (221.hartford-05rs.ct.dial-access.att.net [12.79.58.221]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA22349 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:46:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 23:44:22 -0400 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Battery recharge strange behavior In-Reply-To: <199809130107.SAA06862@aztec2.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Re: Battery not charging due to high temperature Sounds right. The underside of the machine felt unusually hot during this non-charging period. I'm wondering what factors affect the battery heat. The two unusual (for me) things going on were 1) I'd been using the machine on my lap the entire time (3 hours? however long the battery lasts), and 2) I'd been using the battery the whole time. Anyway, it's good to know that it's something to look out for. Thanks for the input... Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 01:37:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA24332 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 01:37:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14313; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 01:36:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 01:34:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14212; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 01:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (mcfs.whowhere.com [209.1.236.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14200; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 01:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by my-dejanews.com; Sat Sep 12 22:33:54 1998 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 22:33:54 -0700 From: "Soulmann" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: on X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: 760ED & NT Woes X-Sender-Ip: 129.15.92.189 Organization: Deja News Mail (http://www.my-dejanews.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: A shout out for help to all ye Thinkpad Gurus/Wizards: Switched a 760ED-U9A (XGA resolution) to NTWS 4.0/SP-3 from W95 due to instability. Some questions/problems are: 1. NT video driver doesn't work as smoothly as the W95 driver. Scrolling downward in, e.g., Netscape Navigator 3.x or Photoshop 5 with an image is nice and smooth. Unfortunately, scrolling back upwards results in wavy flicker that did not exist under W95 and is annoying to say the least. The driver is from IBM's website and I tried looking for an alternate/updated driver from Trident but it only referred me back to IBM. Has anyone else experience the same problem with their NT & XGA machine and found a solution? FWIW, it has 80MB of RAM & 2MB of VRAM. 2. Installed Thinkpad Features Utility but there's no Suspend on the Start Menu or Power Management Icon in the Task Tray. BTW, with all due respect, neither of the above is a problem with my work-provided Toshiba :-) Suspend/Resume works like a champ and is soooo much faster than with W95. Of course, I haven't set it up with the docking station yet, so that may change. 3. Hibernation is incompatiable with PC Card (3Com ethernet/modem) in TP Configuration. Attempt to enable hibernation results in error message "Cannot create the hibernation file when PC card for communication is attached." The drive in question is formatted with FAT16. That's it for the TP-specific problems. Insofar as NT is concerned... 4. Snap-to-default feature of the mouse is nice. What about simulating a double click by pressing both buttons at the same time, a feature available under W95 with the Mouseware driver that came with the three-buttoned Logitech Mouseman? Speaking of which, the ability to use the middle button of the said Mouseman would be nice too but apparently that isn't supported natively and Mouseware isn't compatiable with NT (or at least mine--v.75--isn't) either. 5. Suggestions for video capture software to replace the now nuked Asymetrix Compel? What about editing SW? Please forgive the long message and thank you in advance for any help. -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 01:53:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA24483 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 01:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14868; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 01:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 01:50:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14735; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 01:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom18.netcom.com (phr@netcom18.netcom.com [192.100.81.131]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14723; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 01:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom18.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id WAA07857 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 22:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 22:50:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199809130550.WAA07857@netcom18.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Wake up! SXGA display List-Unsubscribe: From: Michael Geary To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Fri, 11 Sep 1998 >[Dell Inspira 15" display] It's a 1024x768 display with bigger pixels. No more pixels, no more capability than the 13.3" display on my ThinkPad 600 or even the 12.1" display on my 760E. Just bigger pixels. Wake me up when they do something interesting, like a 1280x960 display... DINNNGGGG!!! I just heard via a Usenet post that the Thinkpad 770X will be released next month, with a 14", 1280x1024 display with 24 bit color! CPU is a 300 MHz PII. No other specs, price, etc. were mentioned. Info is supposedly from some web magazine. So I wouldn't call it totally confirmed, but it fits the general picture I've been seeing... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 03:53:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA26050 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18381; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:47:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18273; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:47:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18261; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:47:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (191.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.191]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA24984; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:47:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FB7910.F9F4C1E4@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:49:36 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Bell CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query - Off Topic References: <199809101759.MAA26219@dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com> <35F83005.F6FC3002@csc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Got you both beat.. MY first machine.. well, ok, my second machine was an IMSAI.. enter programs (hah!) through the front panel switches into, i think, 32 bytes.. that is BYTES.. not even K.. THEN i swapped with one of the cromemco owners for a 2k memory card and a byte saver with an eprom (1K i think) with palo alto tiny basic on it.. which would have been terrific except i had no terminal or any other way to get to it.. at that time.. early on i had a pixie-verter (to use a TV as a display device) but i can't recall how i had a keyboard on that thing.. later i built an ADM3 dumb terminal after i got a serial port card.. tempus fugit.. Rob Bell wrote: > > bfink wrote: > > > > PS: Gawd! 96MB of ram. My first computer had 3K (not M) of ram. And > > it had a 19" display, too. (OK, it hooked up to the TV set, but still.) > > And that blazing cassette-tape storage drive... > > > > Anybody want to guess the machine? > > > > I'm guessing it was a TSR-80 or some other early Tandy. That's one of > the few home computers I can think of that came before my Atari 400 > (which had a whopping 16K). It did use the TV and a cassette drive > though! Heck, before I conned Mom into buying the $80 cassette drive > for me I had to type in all the programs I wanted to run. Not the > easiest especially on that chiclet keyboard. > > Later, > Rob > > ----------------------------------------- > Rob Bell > Senior Consultant, CPD Professional > CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN > rob_bell@nospam@csi.com > ----------------------------------------- -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(298meg), 770-1AU(256meg), 760ED(104meg), 701C(40meg), 755CE(40meg), 750C(4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 03:56:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA26070 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:56:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18588; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:51:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18467; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:51:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18455; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (191.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.191]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA25158; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FB79D2.CAB1F4F1@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:52:51 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Rubin CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Wake up! SXGA display References: <199809130550.WAA07857@netcom18.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul, et al... Also, it is SUPPOSED to have the 100mhz buss.. which means that memory will need to be upgraded.. Paul Rubin wrote: > > From: Michael Geary > To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Fri, 11 Sep 1998 > > >[Dell Inspira 15" display] > > It's a 1024x768 display with bigger pixels. No more pixels, no > more capability than the 13.3" display on my ThinkPad 600 or > even the 12.1" display on my 760E. Just bigger pixels. Wake me > up when they do something interesting, like a 1280x960 > display... > > DINNNGGGG!!! I just heard via a Usenet post that the Thinkpad > 770X will be released next month, with a 14", 1280x1024 display > with 24 bit color! CPU is a 300 MHz PII. No other specs, price, > etc. were mentioned. Info is supposedly from some web magazine. > So I wouldn't call it totally confirmed, but it fits the general > picture I've been seeing... -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(298meg), 770-1AU(256meg), 760ED(104meg), 701C(40meg), 755CE(40meg), 750C(4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 04:02:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA26154 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19124; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:00:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:58:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18951; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18938; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (191.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.191]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA25706; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FB7B92.BD03A829@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:00:18 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Battery recharge strange behavior References: <199809122325.TAA08480@mail.binghamton.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: These batteries all have a thermostat thing.. sensor.. if the battery gets too hot, it turns it off..!! this is, i suppose, to prevent little bits of the computer from hitting you in the face when it explodes from getting too hot.. :-) Ken wrote: > > Has anyone seen this weird behavior?: I was using the 770ED from the > battery. It ran down to 4%, and I plugged in the AC. The machine > proceeded to use the AC power, but the battery did not charge. I continued > using the machine for about half an hour, and the battery never charged (it > stayed at 4%, and the little charging arrow never appeared on the LCD). > After I shutdown the machine, the battery eventually (I don't know how long > it took) began to recharge. > > Anyone have any theories on this one? I was pretty irritated. > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(298meg), 770-1AU(256meg), 760ED(104meg), 701C(40meg), 755CE(40meg), 750C(4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 04:13:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA26275 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20378; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:12:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:10:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20203; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20186; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (191.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.191]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id EAA26658; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FB7E7C.220B44FF@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:12:44 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lou CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Change drives in a 385? References: <3.0.5.32.19980910222954.00985c30@ecom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Lou.. yes.. you can take a look at the hardware manuals on the IBM web site.. i don't have the link at hand but its accessible from the thinkpad driver matrix.. (through several layers, of course.. ) Lou wrote: > > I know that the hd in the 385 is not normally a removable drive but is > there anyway, at all, it can be changed? > Warm regards, > > -lou- -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 06:43:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA27578 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 06:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00226; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 06:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 06:34:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00116; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 06:34:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.1.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA29995; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 06:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.194]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02377 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:34:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.43); 13 Sep 98 12:34:12 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.43); 13 Sep 98 12:33:46 +0200 Received: from magrathea.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.145) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.43) with ESMTP; 13 Sep 98 12:33:41 +0200 Received: from localhost (babylon5.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.2]) by Magrathea.stelarcom.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01037 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:28:10 +0200 Message-Id: <199809131028.MAA01037@Magrathea.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:28:08 -0100 Reply-To: "Alexander Wanger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Change drives in a 385? List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:12:44 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: Hi! >you can take a look at the hardware manuals on the IBM web site.. >i don't have the link at hand but its accessible from the thinkpad >driver matrix.. (through several layers, of course.. ) Just to shorten search a bit: in the IBM-Language it's called "HMM" (Hardware Maintenance Manual). So a "Search for" HMM or "Hardware Maintanance Manual" at nearly any IBM-site will find it. Other hint: It's available online, in Bookreader-format and also as PDF. And it's quite big. >Lou wrote: >> >> I know that the hd in the 385 is not normally a removable drive but is >> there anyway, at all, it can be changed? >> Warm regards, >> >> -lou- > >-- >Happy Trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html >bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net >770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), >770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), >760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), >701C(6.3gig, 40meg), >755CE(no gig, 40meg), >750C(no gig, 4meg), >IBM WorkPad(1meg) > > -- CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You may also reply to Alexander.Wagner@gmx.de or Alexander.Wagner@gmx.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 07:55:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA28171 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01943; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:51:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01738; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:51:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01726; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p02.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.71]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA10641; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809131149.EAA10641@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Lou" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 13 Sep 98 04:50:12 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: URGENT-help needed! List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:08:38 -0700, Lou wrote: >I was repartitoning a 385 Thinkpad using Fdisk. It rebooted before I >redefined any partitions. I have a restore boot floppy in the floppy >drive. When it reboots I see the IBM logo at the top right, then THINKPAD >at the bottom left. Then the screen goes blank and now displayed is >I9990305. > It could be that you have your partitions set, but it can't find a bootable partition. Have you installed your operating system yet? > >What do I do now? > >I can't find the IBM tech support phone number. Does anyone know it? 1-800-772-2227. I don't remember the extensions for ThinkPad support (since they seem to change it every month!). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 07:55:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA28180 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:55:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02055; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:52:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01804; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:52:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01792; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:52:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p02.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.71]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA10656; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809131150.EAA10656@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Lou" Date: Sun, 13 Sep 98 04:51:26 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: URGENT-help needed!-Problem solved List-Unsubscribe: >As I am typing this on my desktop computer, it is reformatting the hard drive. > >Now I can breathe again. > What was wrong in the first place though that you had to FDISK your HD? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 07:57:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA28243 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02457; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:57:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:55:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02070; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:55:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02042; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:54:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p02.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.71]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA10664; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809131152.EAA10664@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Bryan" , "Robert F. Munzenrider" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 13 Sep 98 04:53:04 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Upgrading 701 with AMD586 chip List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:16:34 -0400, Bill Bryan wrote: >At 01:23 PM 9/7/98 -0400, you wrote: >>>>>From: Bill Bryan >>>>> >>>>> I have an upgraded 701C to a 586 processor and 36Mb ram. Win98 loaded >>>>>fine but the unit doesn't seem to wake-up out of suspend mode if it's been >>Let me ask a tangential question: Do you see enough improvement in >>performance >>of the 701 with the AMD586 microprocessor as compared to the original >>Intel486/75 >>to make you feel that the upgrade is cost-effective? >> >>Bob Munzenrider >>Penn State Harrisburg >> >No. It's better but the money would be better spent on a faster laptop... If I'm correct, Randal Whittle on this list upgraded his 701 to the AMD CPU, and I think he had the benchmarks of before and after in an Excel file (which I might have in my archive, but not the raw file since I don't use or have Excel). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 08:29:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA28524 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 08:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04130; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 08:29:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 08:27:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04035; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 08:27:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04023; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 08:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jerrycud ([12.78.196.176]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980913122700.FOUF20702@jerrycud> for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:27:00 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980913082652.0081e470@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jerryray@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 08:26:52 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jerry Cudmore Subject: 770ED Video In ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: If I connect video into my 770ED and use the DVP software I only get a windowed picture. Is there any way to get a full screen picture? If so exactly how? Using WIN98 and used the new IBM disk for a clean Install. Jerry Cudmore From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 08:53:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA28692 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 08:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03017; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 08:00:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:57:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02481; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02469; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p02.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.71]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA10680; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809131154.EAA10680@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , "Paul Rubin" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 13 Sep 98 04:55:30 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Wake up! SXGA display List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:52:51 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >Paul, et al... >Also, it is SUPPOSED to have the 100mhz buss.. >which means that memory will need to be upgraded.. What do you mean the memory needs to be upgraded? I'm sure the on-board RAM will be good for basic applications, but the upgrades would have to be PC-100 (which is a faster memory that can handle the 100MHz bus speeds), as opposed to SDRAM or EDO DRAM. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 08:56:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA28709 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 08:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03026; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 08:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:58:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02540; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02514; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p02.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.71]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA10691; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809131156.EAA10691@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Date: Sun, 13 Sep 98 04:56:47 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Battery recharge strange behavior List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:00:18 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >These batteries all have a thermostat thing.. sensor.. >if the battery gets too hot, it turns it off..!! >this is, i suppose, to prevent little bits of the computer from hitting >you in the face when it explodes from getting too hot.. :-) Does the TP770 get that hot? I recommended it to one of my friends who just immigrated here for school (and can't wait to check it out), but maybe he got something else. How is the battery life? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 10:51:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA00271 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07206; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:51:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:49:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07034; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vex.net (vex.net [198.96.119.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07022; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (1874 bytes) by vex.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:49:02 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #3 built 1997-Oct-29) Received: from vex.net(198.96.119.193) via SMTP by vex.net, id smtpd21026a; Sun Sep 13 10:48:58 1998 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:48:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Golan Klinger To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Wake up! SXGA display In-Reply-To: <199809130550.WAA07857@netcom18.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Paul Rubin wrote: > DINNNGGGG!!! I just heard via a Usenet post that the Thinkpad 770X > will be released next month, with a 14", 1280x1024 display with 24 bit > color! While I'm glad to see higher resolution, I'm somewhat surprised that IBM (supposedly) chose to go with 1280 x 1024. 640 x 480, 800 x 600, and 1024 x 768 all offer a 1:1.33 aspect ratio and that allows screens to get bigger without distorting in size (since LCDs aren't as flexible as cathode ray tubes in this regard). 1280 x 1024 however has a 1:1.25 ratio and it looks, to my eyes, a little weird. I believe that 1152 x 864 would have been a better choice and simpler, from a technical standpoint. I always get strange looks when I mention this resolution but if you're running 1280 x 1024 (on your desktop), switch down and you'll find that everything looks a little more familiar and you'll have given up only a small amount of real estate. Regardless, it makes me wonder if we've hit the ceiling since we'd all agree that 1600 x 1200 on anything under a 19" display is pushing it. Golan Klinger [falco@vex.net] For long you live and high you fly And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry Good, fast or cheap. And all you touch and all you see Pick two... Is all your life will ever be From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 12:54:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA01956 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11113; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:51:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10982; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.capecod.net (mailhost.capecod.net [204.255.214.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10970; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from capecod.net (cambo0601.capecod.net [209.244.246.93] (may be forged)) by mailhost.capecod.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA32726 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:51:45 -0400 Message-ID: <35FBF794.C5961E70@capecod.net> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:49:24 -0400 From: rdietric Reply-To: bigdaddy@ieee.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Subject: TP760XD Isset_se problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I'm trying to install some software for my grandchildren onto my TP760XD. I keep getting an error message that says that program ISSET_SE is causing global protection faults in setup.exe. I cannot find ISSET_SE on my hard drive. Is this my problem or that of the software i am trying to install? Bob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 13:19:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02347 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:19:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12638; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:14:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12177; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom18.netcom.com (phr@netcom18.netcom.com [192.100.81.131]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12165; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom18.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id KAA14674 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:13:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199809131713.KAA14674@netcom18.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 13 Sep 1998 List-Unsubscribe: From: Golan Klinger Subject: Re: Wake up! SXGA display Paul Rubin wrote: > DINNNGGGG!!! I just heard via a Usenet post that the > Thinkpad 770X will be released next month, with a 14", > 1280x1024 display with 24 bit color! While I'm glad to see higher resolution, I'm somewhat surprised that IBM (supposedly) chose to go with 1280 x 1024. 640 x 480, 800 x 600, and 1024 x 768 all offer a 1:1.33 aspect ratio and that allows screens to get bigger without distorting in size (since LCDs aren't as flexible as cathode ray tubes in this regard). 1280 x 1024 however has a 1:1.25 ratio and it looks, to my eyes, a little weird. I believe that 1152 x 864 would have been a better choice and simpler, from a technical standpoint. Simpler (as in easier), yes, but that's even more true of 640x480. As for me, I'll take all the resolution I can get, thank you. I always get strange looks when I mention this resolution but if you're running 1280 x 1024 (on your desktop), switch down and you'll find that everything looks a little more familiar and you'll have given up only a small amount of real estate. Well, if you're used to getting strange looks, 1280x1024 must be what other people expect. So why does it surprise you that IBM went with it? ;-). Seriously, the 4:3 ratio seems to be a PC thing. Workstations from the old days (like the early Suns) used 1152x900 which is closer to the ratio of 1280x1024. The idea there was to be able to show 66 lines of text on the screen in a reasonable font, and to have just under one megapixel of display, so the image could fit in one megabit (monochrome) or megabyte (8-bit color) of video memory. Before that, it was more normal to use portrait mode (tall, narrow monitor rather than shorter, wider one). Again, the driving factor was getting more lines of text on the screen. Portrait mode isn't well suited for laptops, but it's still what I would prefer for desktops when editing text, which is mostly what I do. Regardless, it makes me wonder if we've hit the ceiling since we'd all agree that 1600 x 1200 on anything under a 19" display is pushing it. I don't feel that way at all. More resolution on a small monitor means more pixels/inch, which means sharper fonts, more realistic looking pictures, etc. 1280x1024 on a 14" monitor is just 120 dpi, which for a laser printer most people would consider pathetic. Even fax machines are 200 dpi, and fax output looks pretty bad. If you look at a dollar bill, where it says "This note is legal tender for all debts public and private", that is about a 5 point font but it is perfectly readable. A font that size on almost any computer monitor would look awful. We *do* use fonts that small all the time in the real world, on things like street maps, phone books, coupons, etc. We use lower resolution on screens because of monitor limitations and the amount of video hardware and memory and CPU power needed to refresh a screen with so many bits. But with a powerful enough computer I'd love to have 300 dpi or more on my screen (32 bit photorealistic color, of course). For text, it means I could read smaller fonts more comfortably, which means I can fit more lines of code on the same sized screen, which makes me more productive. For images, it means the screen looks as good as a real photograph. As it is, when I download a big document and want to read it, I usually print it out first because it's simply easier on the eyes to read the hardcopy. Better screen resolution and contrast would get rid of a lot of the need for that and save a lot of paper. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 13:21:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02361 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:21:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12858; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:18:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12558; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns2.gis.net (ns2.gis.net [208.218.130.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12538; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:18:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SYC760.connectingpoint.net (ThinkPad@[216.41.28.164]) by ns2.gis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8+djf) with SMTP id NAA18610; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:22:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701bddf39$4a6e1460$4501a8c0@SYC760.connectingpoint.net> From: "Syclopse" To: , "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: TP760XD Isset_se problems Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:09:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: http://www.metacrawler.com/crawler?general=ISSET_SE&method=0&target=®ion= 0&rpp=20&timeout=5&hpe=10 -----Original Message----- From: rdietric To: Thinkpad Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 12:53 PM Subject: TP760XD Isset_se problems >I'm trying to install some software for my grandchildren onto my >TP760XD. I keep getting an error message that says that program >ISSET_SE is causing global protection faults in setup.exe. I cannot >find ISSET_SE on my hard drive. Is this my problem or that of the >software i am trying to install? >Bob > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 13:41:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02591 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:41:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13717; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:41:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:39:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13568; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:39:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torgo.punk.net (torgo.punk.net [207.114.150.54]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13556; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:39:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by torgo.punk.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA09612; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:45:37 -0700 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:45:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: Paul Rubin cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 13 Sep 1998 In-Reply-To: <199809131713.KAA14674@netcom18.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 13 Sep 1998, Paul Rubin wrote: > Well, if you're used to getting strange looks, 1280x1024 must be > what other people expect. So why does it surprise you that IBM went > with it? ;-). Seriously, the 4:3 ratio seems to be a PC thing. 4:3 is a TV thing actually, and PC monitors evolved from them. > I don't feel that way at all. More resolution on a small monitor > means more pixels/inch, which means sharper fonts, more realistic > looking pictures, etc. 1280x1024 on a 14" monitor is just 120 dpi, > which for a laser printer most people would consider pathetic. CRT's can barely hit over 100dpi as-is. That's why Mac's standardized at 72dpi, and my NeXT systems run 96dpi. > But with a powerful enough > computer I'd love to have 300 dpi or more on my screen (32 bit > photorealistic color, of course). I highly doubt that a ~.08mm dot pitch monitor would be practical. They can hardly hit .23mm dot pitch after many years of development. ============================================================================ ==== Help crack RC5 64-bit encryption -- http://www.distributed.net/rc5 ==== ============================================================================ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 13:48:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02709 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:48:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14148; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:48:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:45:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14004; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13992; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.2-27 #9830) id <01J1R5405OQO9EE91U@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:45:49 MST Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:43:58 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Battery recharge strange behavior In-reply-to: "Message dated Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:00:18 -0400" <35FB7B92.BD03A829@icanect.net> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <01J1R70PKTCW9EE91U@Opus1.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <199809122325.TAA08480@mail.binghamton.edu> List-Unsubscribe: > These batteries all have a thermostat thing.. sensor.. > if the battery gets too hot, it turns it off..!! Actually one common method of determining the charge status of the battery is by the temperature rise in it over the charging process, so - considering that, this is no surprize... Billy Y.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 14:21:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA03222 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15428; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:16:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15101; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klingon.upnaway.com (root@klingon.upnaway.com [203.30.19.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15085; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:16:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cow ([202.61.239.30]) by klingon.upnaway.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA24853 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:18:25 +0800 Message-Id: <199809131818.CAA24853@klingon.upnaway.com> From: "Teng-Yan Loke" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:16:23 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [TP760ELD] Xircom CreditCard Modem 56 Compatibility Reply-to: lokety@bigfoot.com Priority: normal References: "Message dated Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:00:18 -0400" <35FB7B92.BD03A829@icanect.net> In-reply-to: <01J1R70PKTCW9EE91U@Opus1.COM> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: I've checked the Xircom site for info, but can't find the answers. 1. Does the CM56/CM56T work in a TP760ELD and Win95? 2. What are the differences between CM56 and CM56T? Thanks. ---- Teng-Yan Loke aka Cow | lokety@bigfoot.com | www.bigfoot.com/~lokety PGP fingerprint F6 18 CE 37 4C 90 C4 C9 EE F1 D7 B0 5F AE D2 88 Did Aladdin really find a GEnie in a lamp? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 14:22:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA03263 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:22:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15661; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:19:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15379; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:19:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thanatos.clara.net (qmailr@thanatos.clara.net [195.8.69.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15340; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14634 invoked from network); 13 Sep 1998 18:19:42 -0000 Received: from du-858.claranet.co.uk (195.8.76.60) by mail.clara.net with SMTP; 13 Sep 1998 18:19:42 -0000 From: nickdixon@bigfoot.com (Nick Dixon) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: trackpoint covers Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:19:29 GMT Message-ID: <36100bc6.51175165@mail.clara.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Hi there, IBM recently sent me a pack of 20 trackpoint covers. Half of them are soft, smooth rubber (with no grip) and are not the kind I prefer to use, my finger always slip on them... If anyone would like these 10 covers, let me know. Regards, Nick -- ------------------------------------------- THE DAILY DAMON: www.thedailydamon.clara.net Damon Hill...news...gossip...interviews... ------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 22:19:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA10071 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:19:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00292; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:17:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:16:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00126; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:16:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00113; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:16:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm ([12.79.14.66]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980914021610.LVZQ18454@ibm> for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:16:10 +0000 From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: Subject: FS: 260MEG PCMCIA hard drive Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:13:29 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980914021610.LVZQ18454@ibm> List-Unsubscribe: I have for sale one Toshiba/Noteworthy PCMCIA Hard Drive 260 Megs uncompressed. This is new in the retail box. The picture on the box appears exactly the same as the IBM/Integrap Peripherals 260 Meg PCMCIA HDD. $150 plus shipping/COD NYC Thanks! ---------- > From: Chris Schumann > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: FS: New ThinkPad 365 Battery > Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 10:59 AM > > I'm sorry to poast this again, but I promise this is my last try to sell > this item, which I bought by accident on an Auction web site. > > New in Factory sealed box > Xtend Micro Products #B303 battery for all ThinkPad 365 models. > Specs at http://www.xmpi.com/html/ibm_nb.html > > Higher capacity then IBM's original battery. > One year waranty (hopefully with registartion card in box). > > Best price (from Pricewatch.com) is $85 at buycomp.com, but I am selling > for US$65 plus shipping ($3 for US address). > > E-mail if interested. > > Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 23:22:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA11010 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04144; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:21:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:19:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03550; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.60.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03536; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:19:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p100 (ppp-207-193-13-75.hstntx.swbell.net [207.193.13.75]) by mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA03291; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:16:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <35FC8A81.22E9@computer.org> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:16:17 -0500 From: David Black Reply-To: davidb@insource.com Organization: ... X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SBXA (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim McGhee CC: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Discharge rate of Lithium Ion batteries? References: <000301bdd53f$1ddcafa0$d93263d1@ouatic> <35EAFFFA.3814@cyberramp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Sorry Jim, not true. After on year, Li Ion will still have 95% of it's *capacity* -- the ability to store energy. Charge dissipates in less than a week. Jim McGhee wrote: > > Hi, > According to the spec I saw, a fully charged battery should still > contain 95% of the charge after 1 year on the shelf. > > Jim > > TD wrote: > > > > Anyone know how fast lithium ion batteries normally discharge when NOT in > > use? > > > > -T- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 13 23:35:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA11297 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:35:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06025; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:32:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:32:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05940; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05892; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:31:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm ([12.79.15.184]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980914033052.SHIR20702@ibm>; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 03:30:52 +0000 From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: , "Jim McGhee" Cc: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Re: Discharge rate of Lithium Ion batteries? Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:28:07 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980914033052.SHIR20702@ibm> List-Unsubscribe: I must diagree. I have purchased brand new Li batteries that wre definately on the shelf for a while, and they were still fully charged! ---------- > From: David Black > To: Jim McGhee > Cc: Thinkpad List > Subject: Re: Discharge rate of Lithium Ion batteries? > Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 11:16 PM > > Sorry Jim, not true. After on year, Li Ion will still have 95% of it's > *capacity* -- the ability to store energy. Charge dissipates in less > than a week. > > Jim McGhee wrote: > > > > Hi, > > According to the spec I saw, a fully charged battery should still > > contain 95% of the charge after 1 year on the shelf. > > > > Jim > > > > TD wrote: > > > > > > Anyone know how fast lithium ion batteries normally discharge when NOT in > > > use? > > > > > > -T- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 00:50:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA12644 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17817; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:47:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17306; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torgo.punk.net (torgo.punk.net [207.114.150.54]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17099; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by torgo.punk.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA10101; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:53:16 -0700 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:53:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: davidb@insource.com cc: Jim McGhee , Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Discharge rate of Lithium Ion batteries? In-Reply-To: <35FC8A81.22E9@computer.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 13 Sep 1998, David Black wrote: > Sorry Jim, not true. After on year, Li Ion will still have 95% of it's > *capacity* -- the ability to store energy. Charge dissipates in less > than a week. Perhaps he's confusing it with Lithium Hydroxide which is a non-rechargable cell type that has excellent shelf life. It discharges around %5 per year. It has no place as a main power supply for notebooks, but it does make a dandy power source for CMOS RAM and clocks and such. ============================================================================ ==== Help crack RC5 64-bit encryption -- http://www.distributed.net/rc5 ==== ============================================================================ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 01:34:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA18003 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19890; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:33:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19778; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:33:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from woody.wcnet.org (woody.wcnet.org [205.133.171.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19752; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:33:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pizza.z.org (root@find6-cs-15.dial.bright.net [209.143.26.101]) by woody.wcnet.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA16115; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from poof.z.org. (poof.z.org [192.168.1.3]) by pizza.z.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05584; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:33:50 -0400 To: linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: jzawodn@wcnet.org Subject: Linux & Audio on ThinkPad 380D? X-Auto-Copy-In: 1998-09 From: jzawodn@wcnet.org (Jeremy D. Zawodny) Date: 14 Sep 1998 01:33:50 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.42/Emacs 20.3 List-Unsubscribe: After browsing around a bit to see what I can do about getting audio support (of any sort) for my ThinkPad 380D running Linux, I'm at a loss. I've found refernces that seem to believe it can't be done, while others appear to have moderate success (but the details in both cases have been quite sketchy). So, any success stories out there? If you've managed to get it working, let me know. I'd be glad to summarize and responses I get and maybe even put together a mini-HOWTO style document if the process is a non-trivial one. Thanks, Jeremy -- Jeremy D. Zawodny Web Geek, Perl Hacker, etc. http://www.wcnet.org/~jzawodn/ jzawodn@wcnet.org LOAD "LINUX",8,1 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 01:38:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA19896 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20300; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:37:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:37:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20169; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:37:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20157; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA29732; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:37:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809140537.AAA29732@rgate.ricochet.net> X-Sender: geary@bolero.rahul.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:37:02 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, "Soulmann" From: Michael Geary Subject: Re: 760ED & NT Woes In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >From: "Soulmann" > >Switched a 760ED-U9A (XGA resolution) to NTWS 4.0/SP-3 from W95 due to instability. Some questions/problems are: > >1. NT video driver doesn't work as smoothly as the W95 driver. Scrolling downward in, e.g., Netscape Navigator 3.x or Photoshop 5 with an image is nice and smooth. Unfortunately, scrolling back upwards results in wavy flicker that did not exist under W95 and is annoying to say the least. > >The driver is from IBM's website and I tried looking for an alternate/updated driver from Trident but it only referred me back to IBM. Has anyone else experience the same problem with their NT & XGA machine and found a solution? FWIW, it has 80MB of RAM & 2MB of VRAM. My 760E XGA (9546-U9B) running NT4 Server SP3 does the same thing. It's a major bug in the display driver. It is using the hardware bitblitter when moving an image up or to the left, but falling back to a software BitBlt when moving down or to the right. Whew! El stinko! I've been meaning to report this to IBM, and your message has prompted me to do so... >2. Installed Thinkpad Features Utility but there's no Suspend on the Start Menu or Power Management Icon in the Task Tray. You need to run the Fuel program. Put it in your common Startup folder. It won't give you suspend on the start menu, though. You should still be able to suspend with Fn+F4. (I must confess I haven't tried this in a long time, though--my 760E stays on all the time as an NT server.) >3. Hibernation is incompatiable with PC Card (3Com ethernet/modem) in TP Configuration. Attempt to enable hibernation results in error message "Cannot create the hibernation file when PC card for communication is attached." The drive in question is formatted with FAT16. Take out the card and then create the hibernation file. I think it should be OK after that. At least that's how it works on my TP600--I don't use hibernation on the 760E. -Mike http://www.geary.com mailto:mg@mg.to ham:WJ6V From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 01:43:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA21369 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:43:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20735; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:41:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:41:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20632; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:41:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20600; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA29963 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:41:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809140541.AAA29963@rgate.ricochet.net> X-Sender: geary@bolero.rahul.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:40:56 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Geary Subject: Re: Wake up! SXGA display In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: > From: Michael Geary > > >[Dell Inspira 15" display] > > It's a 1024x768 display with bigger pixels. No more pixels, no > more capability than the 13.3" display on my ThinkPad 600 or > even the 12.1" display on my 760E. Just bigger pixels. Wake me > up when they do something interesting, like a 1280x960 > display... > >DINNNGGGG!!! I just heard via a Usenet post that the Thinkpad >770X will be released next month, with a 14", 1280x1024 display >with 24 bit color! CPU is a 300 MHz PII. No other specs, price, >etc. were mentioned. Info is supposedly from some web magazine. >So I wouldn't call it totally confirmed, but it fits the general >picture I've been seeing... Yowie! Not so loud! But that woke me up all right. I've been following the Usenet thread as well. Sounds mega-cool. I do hope it still has square pixels, not squished pixels like a 1280x1024 CRT. -Mike http://www.geary.com mailto:mg@mg.to ham:WJ6V From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 02:05:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA23197 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21741; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:04:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:03:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21626; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:03:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21613; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA01464 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:03:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809140603.BAA01464@rgate.ricochet.net> X-Sender: geary@bolero.rahul.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:03:37 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Geary Subject: Lousy mouse buttons In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I feel like griping about something. I think my ThinkPads are just terrific, all three of them. But there's one thing that IBM just can't seem to get right: the mouse buttons. What is the deal here? Everybody else knows how to make nice snappy mouse buttons, but not IBM (or I suppose Lexmark). I've got five--count 'em--five--of the desktop Lexmark TrackPoint keyboards, and every one of them suffered mouse button failure after six months use. (That's why I've got so many of them!) You probably know the symptom: the left button in particular (because that's the one you use most) gets real mushy, and you have to press it pretty hard to get it to "click". There's no snap to it at all, just a mashy kind of action. My refurb 701C arrived in the same condition, but IBM replaced the keyboard and it will be OK for a little while. The 760E is tolerable, but I'll certainly get its keyboard replaced before the warranty runs out. The 600 is pretty reasonable, but time will tell. Maybe they've improved the mechanism. But it still isn't anywhere near as good as any of the cheap mice or other notebook mouse buttons I've tried. It's really not that hard to make a mouse button with a nice reliable snap action: you use a good microswitch instead of the flimsy, unreliable dome switch I saw when I took apart one of my desktop keyboards. I've never seen anyone else complain about this, but every long-time ThinkPad user must have run into it. Does everyone else just put up with it, or get their keyboards replaced repeatedly, or what? If I were Ted Selker (inventor of the TrackPoint), I'd be hopping mad that my invention was botched with such lousy buttons. -Mike http://www.geary.com mailto:mg@mg.to ham:WJ6V From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 02:18:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA23343 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22471; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:18:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:17:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22336; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:17:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22323; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA02262; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:17:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809140617.BAA02262@rgate.ricochet.net> X-Sender: geary@bolero.rahul.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:17:38 -0700 To: "David W. Taylor" From: Michael Geary Subject: Re: Lousy mouse buttons Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <001f01bddfa6$a16b9770$0201a8c0@greasygirl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:12 PM 9/13/98 , David W. Taylor wrote: >I don't use the TrackPoint or its buttons much. The $29 sleek black IBM >mouse that I got with the 600 is just fine. It's made by Logitech for IBM >and seems worthwhile. That's my problem: I like the TrackPoint much better than a mouse. That's why I bought all those Lexmark desktop TrackPoint keyboards. >Have you seen the articles about the new IBM "Roentgen" display technology? >Big drool factor. Maybe the slobber is what's messing up my TrackPoint keyboards. -Mike http://www.geary.com mailto:mg@mg.to ham:WJ6V From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 02:45:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA23587 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:45:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12025; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:07:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11444; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mi.verio.com (newmail.mi.verio.com [209.69.71.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11375; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:06:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from billb (66-144.pop.fh.gle.verio.com [209.69.66.144]) by mail.mi.verio.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA21788 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980913235953.007c71b0@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:59:53 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: APM ? Win98 & 701C In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980907120256.007f9100@rust.net> References: <199809030628.BAA23151@rgate2.ricochet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: After playing around with the old dos/win3.1 (16-bit) "PC card director" which did work under windows 95, I decided to give up. I uninstalled Windows 98 which by the way worked flawlessly. I'm now back to 95 with a noticeable speed improvement. Almost down right snappy. I needed to go back to Win95 to really get a feel on how slow Win 98 is on low end hardware like the 701C. All those months of waiting on the release of Win 98 to obtain my power down fix for the PC cards under suspend in Win 98. The moral here is "newer does not always mean better". Oh well... B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 02:45:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA23588 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24767; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:44:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:44:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24657; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24644; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p13.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.82]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA15773; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809140642.XAA15773@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Golan Klinger" , "Thinkpad List" Date: Sun, 13 Sep 98 23:42:46 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Wake up! SXGA display List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:48:58 -0400 (EDT), Golan Klinger wrote: >Paul Rubin wrote: > >> DINNNGGGG!!! I just heard via a Usenet post that the Thinkpad 770X >> will be released next month, with a 14", 1280x1024 display with 24 bit >> color! > > While I'm glad to see higher resolution, I'm somewhat surprised >that IBM (supposedly) chose to go with 1280 x 1024. 640 x 480, 800 x 600, >and 1024 x 768 all offer a 1:1.33 aspect ratio and that allows screens to >get bigger without distorting in size (since LCDs aren't as flexible as >cathode ray tubes in this regard). 1280 x 1024 however has a 1:1.25 ratio >and it looks, to my eyes, a little weird. I believe that 1152 x 864 would >have been a better choice and simpler, from a technical standpoint. > But not all display drivers would support this resolution, and that could become a problem. I think that 1280*1024 might be more standard... > I always get strange looks when I mention this resolution but if >you're running 1280 x 1024 (on your desktop), switch down and you'll find >that everything looks a little more familiar and you'll have given up only >a small amount of real estate. > Personally, I like 800*600, and unless I have a 21" CRT, I don't need anything larger. Aren't the icons on the newer ThinkPads (as well as text) smaller than the 10.4" LCD's? > Regardless, it makes me wonder if we've hit the ceiling since we'd >all agree that 1600 x 1200 on anything under a 19" display is pushing it. > And a 19" display on a notebook pushes it up to a portable desktop. Heck, they might as well make a SPARC-based notebook if they have 19" displays in notebooks eventually. :) -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 02:46:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA23599 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25016; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:45:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24908; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24895; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p13.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.82]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA15848 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809140644.XAA15848@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sun, 13 Sep 98 23:44:42 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TPALL - Question about ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone have, or had a ThinkPad 350? I'm about to get one for a reclamation project. And pro's/con's? I'm planning on running OS/2 Warp (of course), and have it networked. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 02:50:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA23678 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25907; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:50:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:49:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25685; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:49:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25652; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p13.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.82]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA15986; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809140647.XAA15986@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Paul Rubin" Date: Sun, 13 Sep 98 23:48:32 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 13 Sep 1998 List-Unsubscribe: > >As it is, when I download a big document and want to read it, I usually >print it out first because it's simply easier on the eyes to read the >hardcopy. Better screen resolution and contrast would get rid of >a lot of the need for that and save a lot of paper. > Another advantage of LCDs is that it is so much easier on my eyes, compared with even this Samsung CRT (my best one, no burn in, sharp, but still hurts :( ). What about VR glasses used as monitors? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 03:49:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA24294 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 03:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03156; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 03:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 03:48:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03045; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 03:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03028; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 03:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p13.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.82]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA17870; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809140745.AAA17870@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Michael Geary" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 14 Sep 98 00:45:46 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Lousy mouse buttons List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:03:37 -0700, Michael Geary wrote: >I feel like griping about something. > >I think my ThinkPads are just terrific, all three of them. But there's one >thing that IBM just can't seem to get right: the mouse buttons. > Same here, but also the same reason. >What is the deal here? Everybody else knows how to make nice snappy mouse >buttons, but not IBM (or I suppose Lexmark). I've got five--count >'em--five--of the desktop Lexmark TrackPoint keyboards, and every one of >them suffered mouse button failure after six months use. (That's why I've >got so many of them!) You probably know the symptom: the left button in >particular (because that's the one you use most) gets real mushy, and you >have to press it pretty hard to get it to "click". There's no snap to it at >all, just a mashy kind of action. > And it's quite unfortunate since the TrackPoint has got to be the BEST mouse I've EVER used (until the one on my 701 broke off). >My refurb 701C arrived in the same condition, but IBM replaced the keyboard >and it will be OK for a little while. Yeah, a little while. This is my second keyboard (for the 701), and it lasted about 3 months. I might end up replacing the darn thing myself, even if it messes up the warranty, because it bothers me, but I might as well get another 701 though. Ironically, the 701's keyboard is made by Keytronic, but suffers like the Lexmark (but the Lexmark has the best key feel though it's sometimes noisier than the 701's). The 760E is tolerable, but I'll >certainly get its keyboard replaced before the warranty runs out. The 600 >is pretty reasonable, but time will tell. Maybe they've improved the >mechanism. But it still isn't anywhere near as good as any of the cheap >mice or other notebook mouse buttons I've tried. > Which is also ironic. It's more expensive, but the el cheapo mice have better buttons, even if they feel crappy. >It's really not that hard to make a mouse button with a nice reliable snap >action: you use a good microswitch instead of the flimsy, unreliable dome >switch I saw when I took apart one of my desktop keyboards. > Such as those used on CD-ROM drives. >I've never seen anyone else complain about this, but every long-time >ThinkPad user must have run into it. I think I've complained about it, so you're definately not the first one to. Does everyone else just put up with >it, or get their keyboards replaced repeatedly, or what? Both. I can't because I need my ThinkPad all the time now for school, and BOTH (the 300 runs Linux, and is used for C class), so I can't afford 1-2 weeks without it. But I'll probably have my 701 for a while, since I invested in another battery (which I've had for about 3 weeks now, a NiCAD which works great), a Dock II adapter, and the Dock II itself (which should arrive soon). BTW, which is more friendlier with the Dock II, Warp 3 or Warp 4? Or does it not really matter? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 04:15:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA24499 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04770; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:14:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04671; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04658; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p13.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.82]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA18443; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809140812.BAA18443@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Bryan" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 14 Sep 98 01:12:32 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: APM ? Win98 & 701C List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:59:53 -0400, Bill Bryan wrote: >After playing around with the old dos/win3.1 (16-bit) "PC card director" >which did work under windows 95, I decided to give up. I uninstalled >Windows 98 which by the way worked flawlessly. I'm now back to 95 with a >noticeable speed improvement. Almost down right snappy. I needed to go >back to Win95 to really get a feel on how slow Win 98 is on low end >hardware like the 701C. All those months of waiting on the release of Win >98 to obtain my power down fix for the PC cards under suspend in Win 98. >The moral here is "newer does not always mean better". Oh well... I thought that Win98 was supposed to be faster than 95, and then MS claims that NT is faster than that... Oh well. How about this - Newer can sometimes be better, but also be slower... This would probably apply to Warp 4 vs. Warp 3 (though with a K5-200 and 48MB of RAM for my server, it's fast enough). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 04:45:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA24772 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25357; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:48:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:47:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25207; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:47:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25103; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p13.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.82]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA15902; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809140645.XAA15902@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Steve Parker" Date: Sun, 13 Sep 98 23:46:05 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 13 Sep 1998 List-Unsubscribe: >> But with a powerful enough >> computer I'd love to have 300 dpi or more on my screen (32 bit >> photorealistic color, of course). > > I highly doubt that a ~.08mm dot pitch monitor would be practical. >They can hardly hit .23mm dot pitch after many years of development. What about with gas plasma or bigger LCDs? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 05:01:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA24933 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 05:01:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06137; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 05:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:59:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05910; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:59:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from huygens.physics.mcgill.ca (huygens.physics.mcgill.ca [132.206.92.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05897; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from alban@localhost) by huygens.physics.mcgill.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) id EAA01899; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:59:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer X-Sender: alban@huygens.physics.mcgill.ca To: Bruce Markowitz Subject: Re: DVD on ThinkPad 760"s! In-Reply-To: <19980913044122.QUMA23468@sony> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE List-Unsubscribe: How do you display full-screen from the video-in port? On Sun, 13 Sep 1998, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > Hello list > just wanted to tell you about a new product that I just bought that may b= e > of some interest... > Sony has out a portable DVD player. It has S-video and composit A/V > outputs, AS well as PCM and Dolby. It weighs around one pound, and can ru= n > off of Sony CAMCORDER Li-Ion batteries!!! > It plugs right into the video in port of a TP 760ED, 760XD, 765D, 755CDV, > 75X with a TV tuner, and probably a bunch of 770's (don;t know which have > an overlay). On my 760ED wtih the SVGA screen, it looks very good indeed! > On the XGA screen of my Sony, just awesome! Of course, you can use a > monitor and watch it on a larger screen (and obviously on a TV, as that i= s > what this player is actually made for. > Cost was $675 mail order, and the 2.5 hour Lithium battery was $75.00 > The player will automatically charge the battery. Considering the cost of > the IBM DVD drive and adaptor, this should be a viable alternative. And > since this is an actual hardware player, most of the issues that arise > using laptop DVD palyback (which always involves some software) should no= t > exist. The player can be seen on the Sony website.=20 >=20 A. Kellerbauer McGill University Nuclear Physics Montr=E9al (Qu=E9bec) UIN 8141789 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 06:58:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA25973 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 06:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16392; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 06:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 06:57:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16221; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 06:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.hd.ibm.de (firewall.hd.ibm.de [192.101.197.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16197; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 06:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com by firewall.hd.ibm.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03/TWS 4.03.3-cherub) id AA113328; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:50:49 +0200 Received: from pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com [9.228.3.110]) by mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.4-mailserver) with ESMTP id MAA58928 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:56:36 +0200 (MSZ) Received: (from krumeich@localhost) by pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.2-pool) id MAA68774; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:56:34 +0200 (MSZ) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:56:33 +0200 (MSZ) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de To: ThinkPad List Subject: TP600/Linux: No audio CD after suspend Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi there, now that the suspend/resume function is working on the TP600, I found that I cannot play audio CDs after I have suspended and resumed the machine. It works perfectly until the switch to suspend mode. After that, the system is mute, except for the ^G sound, which still works. The CD palyers behave as usual, except that there is no sound. Since I haven't yet bothered to tweak the most out of the sound configuration (playing audio CDs is good enough for me) I wonder if other people have the same problem. Can anybody try this out on her machine and confirm this behaviour? I appreciate cc's to my address since I am a digest reader. Thanks in advance, Alexander -- Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 07:53:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA26468 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 07:53:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18238; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 07:53:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 07:52:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18117; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 07:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop1.gmx.net (qmailr@pop1.gmx.net [195.63.104.131]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18064; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 07:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28001 invoked by alias); 14 Sep 1998 11:51:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19980914115139.27998.qmail@pop1.gmx.net> From: "Michael Lohfink" To: "Thinkpad Mailingliste" Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 16:59:51 +0000 Reply-To: "Michael Lohfink" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE List-Unsubscribe: UNSUBSCRIBE From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 09:59:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA28215 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24192; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:57:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:51:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23715; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cayuga.cs.rochester.edu (cayuga.cs.rochester.edu [192.5.53.209]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23703; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:51:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from slate.cs.rochester.edu (slate.cs.rochester.edu [192.5.53.101]) by cayuga.cs.rochester.edu (8.6.9/O) with ESMTP id JAA01609 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:51:23 -0400 Received: from atto.cs.rochester.edu (atto.cs.rochester.edu [192.5.53.189]) by slate.cs.rochester.edu (8.6.9/O) with ESMTP id JAA12790 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:51:22 -0400 Received: (from bukys@localhost) by atto.cs.rochester.edu (SMI-8.6/N++) id JAA12855; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:51:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:51:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199809141351.JAA12855@atto.cs.rochester.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: spurious taps from TrackPoint III Cc: bukys@cs.rochester.edu List-Unsubscribe: Just typing on my keyboard generates spurious "mouse tap" events on the TrackPoint III on my TP770. (Depending on the location of the cursor, this gets quite messy, as the mouse tap moves the cursor or presses a random button.) I had the TrackPoint sensitivity set to "lightest touch", and turning it back down toward "medium" or "firm touch" has helped but not entirely eliminated the problem. I realize that I could disable "press to select", but I use it a lot and would miss it. My questions: A. Has anyone else had these problems? B. Does it get worse over time? C. Has anyone had a repair experience for this problem? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 11:31:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA29785 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00401; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:29:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:26:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29934; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from volitans.MorningStar.Com (volitans.MorningStar.Com [137.175.2.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29907; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from carp.morningstar.com (carp.MorningStar.Com [137.175.81.4]) by volitans.MorningStar.Com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA16982; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:25:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by carp.morningstar.com (8.8.8/95031605) id LAA21910; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:25:49 -0400 (EDT) To: Lee Hetherington Cc: Harald Milz , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 770E and > 64M w/ Linux References: <19980905130606.14988@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> <35F12782.6BC9F014@sls.lcs.mit.edu> From: Ben Rogers Date: 14 Sep 1998 11:25:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: Lee Hetherington's message of Sat, 05 Sep 1998 07:58:58 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 List-Unsubscribe: Lee Hetherington writes: > Use mem=95M instead of 96M and all will be well. Linux cannot use all > of the 96MB because 640kB is reserved for system use. You could also > specify (96*1024 - 640)k, but that only gives you 384kB more, and I > cannot remember the value offhand. > > (Didn't I just answer this very question to the list within the last > week?) Actually, if you use the value shown by the BIOS at boot time, you should be fine. (Lets hear it for dumb luck and experimentation...) ben From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 12:01:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA00386 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:01:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03156; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:57:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02809; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchange1.bigcharts.com (exchange1.ConcertoTech.com [206.146.143.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02781; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:57:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exchange1.ConcertoTech.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:57:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Robert Craig To: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: TPALL - Question about ThinkPad Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:57:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I have a 350c (486/25? 8MB Ram, 250HD) running Windows 95, just got it a few weeks ago as a way to dump images from my digital camera when on trips. It's slow, seems to just barely* keep up with the image downloads, but integrated into my network when at home it's a great way to surf and hang out in the family room at the same time. I'm not sure about OS/2, but 95 seems very happy, and I started with a bare HD, no thinkpad drivers save for the display driver I scored on the net. Networked it's fine, in the field it's fine, all is well. BTW, does anyone have any advice for me, as a new TP owner? How about as far as the 350 goes? Any special drivers/utilities I can find to make the most of it? I seem to remember seeing something on DejaNews about the 350 being able to use another models drivers adequately, but cannot find that mention again. Hope that helps, Robert Craig, Web Developer Concerto Technologies Inc. Ph: 612-338-0049 ext 28 Fax: 612-338-0069 http://www.bigcharts.com http://www.concerto.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul Khoury [mailto:pkhoury@loop.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 1998 2:45 AM To: ThinkPad List Subject: TPALL - Question about ThinkPad Does anyone have, or had a ThinkPad 350? I'm about to get one for a reclamation project. And pro's/con's? I'm planning on running OS/2 Warp (of course), and have it networked. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 12:09:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA00559 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:09:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03996; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:09:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:08:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03881; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:08:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apoc.cysource.com (root@apoc.cysource.com [207.238.244.206]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03845; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by apoc.cysource.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA23671 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:03:19 -0500 From: Pooh Message-Id: <199809141603.LAA23671@apoc.cysource.com> Subject: What to clean the screen with?... To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:03:19 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I'm sure this is a faq, and has probably been discussed to death, but... What do you guys recommend for cleaning your thinkpad's screen? I don't wanna use anything that's going to end up harming it. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeff Schoby is: | "May U live 2 see the dawn." Programmer/Analyst | -Prince City of Columbia, MO +------+-------------------------------- ----------------------------------+ | Owner/President of: email: | | Sacred Soul Records | pooh@apoc.cysource.com | | |___________________________| | ssr@tranquility.net Home of the Apocalypse BBS | http://www.tranquility.net/~ssr finger bbs@apoc.cysource.com for info. | http://apoc.cysource.com/~bbs/index.html | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 12:22:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA00779 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:22:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05316; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:20:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05125; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tebbens.com (qmailr@tebbens.com [208.195.230.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05106; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30368 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Sep 1998 16:23:34 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Sep 1998 16:23:34 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:23:34 -0400 (EDT) From: matthew tebbens To: Pooh cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: What to clean the screen with?... In-Reply-To: <199809141603.LAA23671@apoc.cysource.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I'm courious about that too.... Everything I've tried so far leaves streaks.... Matthew On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Pooh wrote: > I'm sure this is a faq, and has probably been discussed to death, but... > > What do you guys recommend for cleaning your thinkpad's screen? I don't > wanna use anything that's going to end up harming it. > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Jeff Schoby is: | "May U live 2 see the dawn." > Programmer/Analyst | -Prince > City of Columbia, MO +------+-------------------------------- > ----------------------------------+ | Owner/President of: > email: | | Sacred Soul Records > | pooh@apoc.cysource.com | | > |___________________________| | ssr@tranquility.net > Home of the Apocalypse BBS | http://www.tranquility.net/~ssr > finger bbs@apoc.cysource.com for info. | > http://apoc.cysource.com/~bbs/index.html | > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 12:25:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA00815 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04862; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:17:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04751; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:17:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (kglp@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04724; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:16:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kglp@localhost) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA07251 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:16:43 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:16:43 -0600 (MDT) From: Ray Bayles To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Discharge rate of Lithium Ion batteries? In-Reply-To: <19980914033052.SHIR20702@ibm> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I just unwrapped a battery for a Thinkpad 760XL that had been in a box on a shelf here since October... it had 66% charge... Don't know when it was manufactured... but not bad for nearly a year... or more > I must diagree. I have purchased brand new Li batteries that wre definately > on the shelf for a while, and they were still fully charged! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 12:57:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA01422 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:57:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01477; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:39:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01191; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01172; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:39:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA05643; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:35:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809141535.KAA05643@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ali-ca18-56.ix.netcom.com(209.110.228.120) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma005496; Mon Sep 14 10:34:25 1998 Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query - Off Topic Date: Mon, 14 Sep 98 08:34:23 -0700 x-sender: bfink@popd.ix.netcom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: bfink To: "Larry Miller" , "Rob Bell" cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: >Subject: Re: [tp770] warning and query - Off Topic >Sent: 9/10/98 2:00 PM >Received: 9/11/98 6:18 PM >From: Larry Miller, lmiller@cibnor.mx >To: Rob Bell, rbell1@csc.com >CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > >> > PS: Gawd! 96MB of ram. My first computer had 3K (not M) of ram. And >> > it had a 19" display, too. (OK, it hooked up to the TV set, but still.) >> > And that blazing cassette-tape storage drive... >> > >> > Anybody want to guess the machine? > >CBM Vic-20? > Cha-CHING! That is correct! Impressive. And I just realized that the first computer upgrade I ever did was the same one that trashed my TP: I went out and bought a memory module that allowed it to have SIX KILOBYTES of ram. time flies rwf ________________________________________________________________________ Robert Fink | Assistant Professor | "Mr. Rochberg's quartet is -- how Dept of Musicology | did we used to put it? -- beauti- UCLA | ful." [Stanford Humanities Ctr., 98-99] | | - Donal Henahan on CURRENT EMAIL: | Rochberg's 3rd bfink@ix.netcom.com | ________________________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 13:00:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA01484 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07959; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:57:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07732; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:56:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07712; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:56:04 -0400 Sender: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us Received: from falkor (chi-dnnvb-096.il.compuserve.net [209.154.105.96]) by hil-img-ims-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.4) with SMTP id MAA00639; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:55:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980914114919.008195d0@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:49:19 -0500 To: Pooh From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: What to clean the screen with?... Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199809141603.LAA23671@apoc.cysource.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 11:03 AM 9/14/98 -0500, Pooh wrote: >I'm sure this is a faq, and has probably been discussed to death, but... Right! >What do you guys recommend for cleaning your thinkpad's screen? I don't >wanna use anything that's going to end up harming it. A couple of years ago, when I was last at Disney's EPCOT Center, there was an IBM ThinkPad booth in one of the CommuniCore buildings. I noticed that there were quite a few greasy fingerprints on some of the screens, but not on a couple of others. I asked the fellow (who turned out to be an IBM employee) about the difference. He said that those couple had just been cleaned. I asked him how he kept the screens clean at all in such an environment. His response was: Windex and paper towels. He said that he cleaned each screen several times a day, seven days a week, and that the machines I was looking at had been there for a few months. The screens showed no sign of wear or scratching. He said to be sure that the machine is off and that the Windex is applied to the towel and not the screen. Of course, personally, I use a soft cloth and eyeglass cleaning solution. :-) YMMV. Good luck! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.5.3 Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNf1JBmasl5Jijs7SEQLTYQCgwPz9r6sSANT7RT4W2ylR77OOu2MAnj1b ABftCKBdeFOSQryA4pwuShhC =0xIl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 13:21:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA01865 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09464; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:17:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09355; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:17:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from blackhole.tp.ac.com (blackhole.tp.ac.com [204.167.146.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09333; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:17:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thinkchad ([10.2.100.36]) by junior.tp.ac.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11968; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:16:01 -0500 From: burkey@cstar.ac.com (Chad Burkey) Reply-To: Sender: "Chad Burkey" To: Subject: RE: Wake up! SXGA display Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:16:40 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Actually, from what I heard the display for this machine will be 13.7" due to the aspect ratio. Chad -----Original Message----- From: Michael Geary [mailto:mg@mg.to] Sent: Sunday, September 13, 1998 10:41 pm To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Wake up! SXGA display > From: Michael Geary > > >[Dell Inspira 15" display] > > It's a 1024x768 display with bigger pixels. No more pixels, no > more capability than the 13.3" display on my ThinkPad 600 or > even the 12.1" display on my 760E. Just bigger pixels. Wake me > up when they do something interesting, like a 1280x960 > display... > >DINNNGGGG!!! I just heard via a Usenet post that the Thinkpad >770X will be released next month, with a 14", 1280x1024 display >with 24 bit color! CPU is a 300 MHz PII. No other specs, price, >etc. were mentioned. Info is supposedly from some web magazine. >So I wouldn't call it totally confirmed, but it fits the general >picture I've been seeing... Yowie! Not so loud! But that woke me up all right. I've been following the Usenet thread as well. Sounds mega-cool. I do hope it still has square pixels, not squished pixels like a 1280x1024 CRT. -Mike http://www.geary.com mailto:mg@mg.to ham:WJ6V From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 13:34:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02135 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:34:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10550; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:33:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:32:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10412; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10393; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:32:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA05654 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:32:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:32:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" Reply-To: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: What to clean the screen with?... In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980914114919.008195d0@popmail.mcs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Ron Heiby wrote: > > A couple of years ago, when I was last at Disney's EPCOT Center, there was > an IBM ThinkPad booth in one of the CommuniCore buildings. I noticed that > there were quite a few greasy fingerprints on some of the screens, but not > on a couple of others. I asked the fellow (who turned out to be an IBM > employee) about the difference. He said that those couple had just been > cleaned. I asked him how he kept the screens clean at all in such an > environment. His response was: Windex and paper towels. He said that he I think the caution against Windex is that it contains formaldehyde, which does a number on some plastics. Also, paper towels on anything used for viewing is a bad idea. > The screens showed no sign of wear or scratching. Most scratches like the kind you get from paper towels are not obviously visible. They're very fine lines which you can only see if you hold the surface at a certain angle with the light. Get enough of these scratches and the surface starts to take on a clouded, not-so-transparent appearance with more glare and less contrast than normal. > Of course, personally, I use a soft cloth and eyeglass cleaning solution. That's what I use. Btw, post-it notes are great for getting dust and hairs out of the edges and corners of the screen. :-) -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 15:56:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA04542 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22483; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:54:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:51:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21886; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21836; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bp ([12.70.21.177]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980914195033.EDZB28735@bp>; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:50:33 +0000 Message-ID: <35FD7373.274@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:50:11 -0400 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pooh CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: What to clean the screen with?... References: <199809141603.LAA23671@apoc.cysource.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: 50% water and 50% isopropyl alcohol soft cloth ONLY damp This is what IBM says. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 16:37:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05312 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26062; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:36:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:35:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25910; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25897; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (GREASYGIRL.brightware.com [206.156.118.187]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA00484; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003501bde01f$2bd4b450$bb769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Turgut Kalfaoglu" , Subject: Re: TP 600 Screen Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:34:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: The TP 600's screen is one of the brightest LCD screens that I have ever used. Like all LCD screens, it is very washed out in bright sunlight. In all other lighting conditions, it is fine. You seem to have rediscovered the "can't use an LCD in bright sunlight rule." David -----Original Message----- From: Turgut Kalfaoglu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, September 14, 1998 1:17 PM Subject: TP 600 Screen >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Is the TP 600's screen quite dark (even with the power saving thing turned to >'bright'), or is it me? > >I mean, even inside the office, if brightly lit, I have trouble with it. >I was thinking of using it on a the bus to work, but next to the window, I >wonder how possible it will be! > >Any suggestions? Thanks! -turgut > >- --------- >Turgut Kalfaoglu >EgeNet http://www.egenet.com.tr >BBS-TURK http://bbsturk.bbs.tr >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 >Charset: noconv > >iQCVAwUBNf2v2DJjYwErN0xZAQFAWAP/UfYf26vNA15ibzkxKas47HBwENLQjR9M >4rwieqqlY4e9F66kuLskNdE6JOrQ+KEHCgMx2CmTjWCfzy+IMnM/F4lPwmU0pEOw >g9i80OzHyyIwPc4QXHTq75FymVcA2JeD/kXysng57Fj9U+19H1UYIxxYVwN4H981 >/Db3ZmVD8GI= >=IbLU >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 16:51:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05545 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:51:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24455; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:10:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23946; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:10:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr ([195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23908; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pam.ege.edu.tr (pam.ege.edu.tr [155.223.16.254]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA26632 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:08:29 +0400 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199809141908.XAA26632@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "Turgut Kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:07:53 +0000 Reply-To: "Turgut Kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP 600 Screen List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Is the TP 600's screen quite dark (even with the power saving thing turned to 'bright'), or is it me? I mean, even inside the office, if brightly lit, I have trouble with it. I was thinking of using it on a the bus to work, but next to the window, I wonder how possible it will be! Any suggestions? Thanks! -turgut - --------- Turgut Kalfaoglu EgeNet http://www.egenet.com.tr BBS-TURK http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNf2v2DJjYwErN0xZAQFAWAP/UfYf26vNA15ibzkxKas47HBwENLQjR9M 4rwieqqlY4e9F66kuLskNdE6JOrQ+KEHCgMx2CmTjWCfzy+IMnM/F4lPwmU0pEOw g9i80OzHyyIwPc4QXHTq75FymVcA2JeD/kXysng57Fj9U+19H1UYIxxYVwN4H981 /Db3ZmVD8GI= =IbLU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 16:59:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05642 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28117; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:57:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:55:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27892; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27858; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:55:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AMDK6300.TECHGAP.innernet.net ([205.130.16.233]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 0066700 ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:36:45 -0400 Message-ID: <002001bde015$d74b1900$e91082cd@AMDK6300.TECHGAP.innernet.net> From: "Slip" To: "Pooh" , Subject: Re: What to clean the screen with?... Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:28:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >What do you guys recommend for cleaning your thinkpad's screen? I don't >wanna use anything that's going to end up harming it. Personally, I take rubbing alchohol and mix it 1:1 with water. I usually grab some cheap toilet paper and dampen it with the solution for the screen. If you use the real soft stuff, it tends to discintigrate from rubbing. This is also *very* great for cleaning the system itself. In particular the Thinkpad 701 has a special casing(do all the thinkpads have this casing? Supposidly designed to disapate the head-kind of a odd feel to it) that is prone to lots of fingerprints if you have hands that are the slightest bit sweaty or damp. Just be sure to have the system off and you should have no problem. I try to stay away from windex because of the harshness it has towards plastics. Plus with this diluted rubbing alchahol, if you get a little down inside the system, it will evaporate very quickly. Take care, Jamie BTW-anyone ever try that stuff called GooGone on their cases? It designed to remove sticker goop and other messes. Made mostly of citric acids. Don't know if anyone has tried it on the special cases or not. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 17:37:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA06285 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00431; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:34:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00315; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:34:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Viola.Opus1.COM (Viola.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00303; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:34:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.2-27 #9830) id <01J1SSIN1RY89D5VJH@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:34:25 MST Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:23:39 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Lousy mouse buttons In-reply-to: "Your message dated Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:03:37 -0700" <199809140603.BAA01464@rgate.ricochet.net> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <01J1STAHFCMA9D5VJH@Opus1.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: List-Unsubscribe: > What is the deal here? Everybody else knows how to make nice snappy mouse > buttons, but not IBM (or I suppose Lexmark). Yes, Lexmark is pure shit here, to say the least. Rarely have I ever been as dissatisfied with any hardware company as them - if it's any consolation I spend tons of other peoples' money every week and they will never see even one dime from me ever again for anything, period. > Does everyone else just put up with > it, or get their keyboards replaced repeatedly, or what? The problem is the rest of the Thinkpad is so great it's hard togive one up a few days for service to get this fixed (although the fix is only good for a few months max). Billy Y.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 17:58:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA06683 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01638; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:56:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:55:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01512; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:55:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu (spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu [150.135.52.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01449; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (europa.opt-sci.arizona.edu [150.135.52.30]) by spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA29781; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:54:17 -0700 (MST) Received: (from stu@localhost) by europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.8.6/8.8.6) id OAA00839; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:54:21 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:54:21 -0700 (MST) From: Stuart Biggar Message-Id: <199809142154.OAA00839@europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> To: detayls@sprynet.com Subject: Re: TP 600 Screen Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Sep 14 13:38 MST 1998 > From: "David W. Taylor" > To: "Turgut Kalfaoglu" , > Subject: Re: TP 600 Screen > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:34:40 -0700 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 > X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 > List-Unsubscribe: > > The TP 600's screen is one of the brightest LCD screens that I have ever > used. > > Like all LCD screens, it is very washed out in bright sunlight. In all > other lighting conditions, it is fine. According to some IBM doc I found, the 770 14" panel brightness is supposed to be 100 nits on battery and 150 nits on AC. This compares to 1500 nits for LCD displays advertised as "sunlight readable". Older TPs have dimmer screens than the 770. Those 1500 nit screens aren't battery powered unless the battery is REALLY BIG. Some people we know who work outside and need a color screen use these 1500 nit displays as an external monitor on notebooks but they use a deep cycle lead acid battery (car size) to power it. Not exactly light weight but they can see the screen in direct sun ... Also, most of the high output displays have heat sinks on the back of the display to get rid of the heat. You thought 166 MHz Pentium MMX ThinkPads got hot. Avionics flat panel displays have similar brightness. Pilots want to see their instruments with the sun out. Stuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuart F. Biggar Phone: (520) 621-8168 Remote Sensing Group FAX: (520) 621-8292 Optical Sciences Center University of Arizona Meinel Building PO Box 210094 Tucson, AZ 85721-0094 Internet: Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You seem to have rediscovered the "can't use an LCD in bright sunlight > rule." > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: Turgut Kalfaoglu > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Date: Monday, September 14, 1998 1:17 PM > Subject: TP 600 Screen > > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > >Is the TP 600's screen quite dark (even with the power saving thing turned > to > >'bright'), or is it me? > > > >I mean, even inside the office, if brightly lit, I have trouble with it. > >I was thinking of using it on a the bus to work, but next to the window, I > >wonder how possible it will be! > > > >Any suggestions? Thanks! -turgut > > > >- --------- > >Turgut Kalfaoglu > >EgeNet http://www.egenet.com.tr > >BBS-TURK http://bbsturk.bbs.tr > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 > >Charset: noconv > > > >iQCVAwUBNf2v2DJjYwErN0xZAQFAWAP/UfYf26vNA15ibzkxKas47HBwENLQjR9M > >4rwieqqlY4e9F66kuLskNdE6JOrQ+KEHCgMx2CmTjWCfzy+IMnM/F4lPwmU0pEOw > >g9i80OzHyyIwPc4QXHTq75FymVcA2JeD/kXysng57Fj9U+19H1UYIxxYVwN4H981 > >/Db3ZmVD8GI= > >=IbLU > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 18:28:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA07140 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03165; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:27:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:25:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02952; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:25:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02938; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:25:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA15979; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:24:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Paul Rubin" , Subject: Re: Wake up! SXGA display Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:24:38 -0700 Message-ID: <002f01bde02e$75e71d80$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199809131713.KAA14674@netcom18.netcom.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > While I'm glad to see higher resolution, I'm somewhat > surprised that IBM (supposedly) chose to go with 1280 x > 1024. 640 x 480, 800 x 600, and 1024 x 768 all offer a 1:1.33 > aspect ratio and that allows screens to get bigger without > distorting in size (since LCDs aren't as flexible as cathode > ray tubes in this regard). 1280 x 1024 however has a 1:1.25 > ratio and it looks, to my eyes, a little weird. I believe that > 1152 x 864 would have been a better choice and simpler, from a > technical standpoint. I think the question here is whether you get square pixels or not. In a typical 4:3 screen, 1280x960 would give square pixels. You certainly could build a 1280x1024 screen with square pixels. It would just have to be taller, 5:4 instead of 4:3. It will be interesting to see what this screen actually turns out to be. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 18:37:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA07269 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03826; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:36:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:35:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03701; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03670; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:35:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA22148; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:35:18 -1000 Message-ID: <005d01bde02f$f770ee20$bf1a7e82@ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: What to clean the screen with?... Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:35:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Following up on what Birger Petterson and Slip said, a 50/50 mix of isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol and water is great for both screens and eyeglasses. The best cloths to use are the heavy microfiber cloths you can buy from decent camera stores (much better than the cheap microfiber cloths some drugstores and opticians sell). Often microfiber cloth alone (no liquid) can remove smudges. Needless to say, spray the cloth, not the screen. One caveat with Windex and the like - not all glass cleaners have the same chemical composition - this is even true for different types of Windex. - David Ross, ross@math.hawaii.edu -----Original Message----- From: BirgerPetterson To: Pooh Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, September 14, 1998 2:57 PM Subject: Re: What to clean the screen with?... >50% water and 50% isopropyl alcohol >soft cloth ONLY damp > >This is what IBM says. > >Birger > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 19:39:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA08486 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07067; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:37:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:35:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06860; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:35:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06835; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p11.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.80]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA20609; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809142333.QAA20609@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "billy@MIX.COM" Date: Mon, 14 Sep 98 16:34:12 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Lousy mouse buttons List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:23:39 -0700 (MST), billy@MIX.COM wrote: >> What is the deal here? Everybody else knows how to make nice snappy mouse >> buttons, but not IBM (or I suppose Lexmark). > >Yes, Lexmark is pure shit here, to say the least. Rarely have I ever >been as dissatisfied with any hardware company as them - if it's any >consolation I spend tons of other peoples' money every week and they >will never see even one dime from me ever again for anything, period. > >> Does everyone else just put up with >> it, or get their keyboards replaced repeatedly, or what? > >The problem is the rest of the Thinkpad is so great it's hard togive >one up a few days for service to get this fixed (although the fix is >only good for a few months max). > Probably because we love using our machines so much. And also that they send us refurb crap, too. I could tell that the parts from Easyserve were refurbs. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 14 22:41:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA11503 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14818; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:40:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:37:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14617; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14605; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p21.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.90]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA29244; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809150235.TAA29244@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Pooh" Date: Mon, 14 Sep 98 19:36:16 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What to clean the screen with?... List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:03:19 -0500 (CDT), Pooh wrote: >I'm sure this is a faq, and has probably been discussed to death, but... > >What do you guys recommend for cleaning your thinkpad's screen? I don't >wanna use anything that's going to end up harming it. > I personally like Windex, which I don't use that often, though, but some people have said that over time, it will yellow the screen... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 00:00:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA12865 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:00:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19184; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:51:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19080; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm04sm.pmm.mci.net (pm04sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.153]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19064; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:51:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcione.com (usr8-dialup34.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27036) with ESMTP id <0EZB003GT405FP@PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 03:50:32 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:52:30 -0500 From: Jim Schneider Subject: Re: 770E won't hibernate anymore To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <35FDE47E.1FF05822@mcione.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <001601bddfa3$2fffd2c0$0201a8c0@greasygirl> List-Unsubscribe: I have a Bootable OS/2 Partition at drive G:, and it hibernates from there just fine. That still uses the hibernation file on c: I thnk. David W. Taylor wrote: > Sounds like either the BIOS needs an update or your FAT partition > hibernation file is problematic. > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Schneider > To: David W. Taylor > Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: 770E won't hibernate anymore > > >Sorry, > > > >It's Windows 95, I'll boot to the OS/2 partition and try it there. > >Version 4.00.950 B with Plus added. > >ThinkPad 770E with the 5.1gb standard and an added 1.3gb in the ultrabay. > >These > >were swapped the other way when I noticed the problem, but changing back > >did not help. > > > >64mb Ram, external mouse plugged in. 3Com X-Jack XJ-5560 modem. > > > > > >David W. Taylor wrote: > > > >> Come on, Jim. You'll need to do better than that. > >> > >> What Operating System: NT, 95, 98 or gawd help you, Linux or OS/2? > >> What version? > >> What configuration of machine? > >> > >> Give us some more to work on... > >> > >> David > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Jim Schneider > >> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > >> Date: Saturday, September 12, 1998 8:48 PM > >> Subject: 770E won't hibernate anymore > >> > >> >When I try to hibernate or suspend, now I get a blue error screen. It > >> >used to work. > >> >The message says : > >> > > >> >Invalid VxD dynamic link call from SSPCCRDX(03) +0001B1F to device > >> >"33A7", service 1. > >> >Your Windows configuration is invalid. Run the windows setup program > >> >again to > >> >correct this problem. > >> > > >> > > >> >What windows setup program? > >> >What do you choose when you get into it ? > >> > > >> >Thanks, Jim Schneider > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 00:05:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA12935 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19794; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:02:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:02:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19691; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19679; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:02:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (mg137-086.ricochet.net [204.179.137.86]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA24975; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000801bde05d$b099c610$0201a8c0@greasygirl> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Jim Schneider" , Subject: Re: 770E won't hibernate anymore Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:02:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Boot from Win85. Open the ThinkPad configuration application. Turn off the hibernation ability. Save and exit. Restart. Open the ThinkPad configuration application again. Turn on the hibernation ability and designate Drive C:. Restart again. Try it. Bet it works! David -----Original Message----- From: Jim Schneider To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, September 14, 1998 8:56 PM Subject: Re: 770E won't hibernate anymore >I have a Bootable OS/2 Partition at drive G:, and it hibernates from there >just fine. That still uses the hibernation file on c: I thnk. > >David W. Taylor wrote: > >> Sounds like either the BIOS needs an update or your FAT partition >> hibernation file is problematic. >> >> David >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jim Schneider >> To: David W. Taylor >> Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 7:53 PM >> Subject: Re: 770E won't hibernate anymore >> >> >Sorry, >> > >> >It's Windows 95, I'll boot to the OS/2 partition and try it there. >> >Version 4.00.950 B with Plus added. >> >ThinkPad 770E with the 5.1gb standard and an added 1.3gb in the ultrabay. >> >These >> >were swapped the other way when I noticed the problem, but changing back >> >did not help. >> > >> >64mb Ram, external mouse plugged in. 3Com X-Jack XJ-5560 modem. >> > >> > >> >David W. Taylor wrote: >> > >> >> Come on, Jim. You'll need to do better than that. >> >> >> >> What Operating System: NT, 95, 98 or gawd help you, Linux or OS/2? >> >> What version? >> >> What configuration of machine? >> >> >> >> Give us some more to work on... >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Jim Schneider >> >> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >> >> Date: Saturday, September 12, 1998 8:48 PM >> >> Subject: 770E won't hibernate anymore >> >> >> >> >When I try to hibernate or suspend, now I get a blue error screen. It >> >> >used to work. >> >> >The message says : >> >> > >> >> >Invalid VxD dynamic link call from SSPCCRDX(03) +0001B1F to device >> >> >"33A7", service 1. >> >> >Your Windows configuration is invalid. Run the windows setup program >> >> >again to >> >> >correct this problem. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >What windows setup program? >> >> >What do you choose when you get into it ? >> >> > >> >> >Thanks, Jim Schneider >> > >> > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 05:34:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA17617 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:34:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA07054; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:24:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA04845; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:24:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from huygens.physics.mcgill.ca (huygens.physics.mcgill.ca [132.206.92.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA04697; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:23:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from alban@localhost) by huygens.physics.mcgill.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) id FAA05857; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:23:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer X-Sender: alban@huygens.physics.mcgill.ca To: Paul Khoury cc: ThinkPad List , Pooh Subject: Re: What to clean the screen with?... In-Reply-To: <199809150235.TAA29244@ritchie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE List-Unsubscribe: Windex is not an appropriate cleaner for plastic. Ammonia slowly=20 dissolves plastic and makes it yellow, a damage that cannot be repaired=20 afterwards. Why use anything else than what IBM recommends=20 (alcohol-water)?=20 On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:03:19 -0500 (CDT), Pooh wrote: >=20 > >I'm sure this is a faq, and has probably been discussed to death, but... > > > >What do you guys recommend for cleaning your thinkpad's screen? I don't > >wanna use anything that's going to end up harming it. > > > I personally like Windex, which I don't use that often, though, but some = people > have said that over time, it will yellow the screen... >=20 > --=20 > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.or= g (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0= .29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 >=20 A. Kellerbauer McGill University Nuclear Physics Montr=E9al (Qu=E9bec) UIN 8141789 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 08:59:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA19657 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13318; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:55:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13174; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:55:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (root@amber.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13161; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sinai.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@sinai.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA14124; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by sinai.ccs.neu.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) id IAA11776; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: jzawodn@wcnet.org (Jeremy D. Zawodny) Cc: richard , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 3com nic/modem References: <199809081934.PAA11020@astor.interport.net> From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 15 Sep 1998 08:55:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: jzawodn@wcnet.org's message of "08 Sep 1998 21:30:26 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.43/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: jzawodn@wcnet.org (Jeremy D. Zawodny) writes: > So, I picked up 3Com 3C589D to handle the Ethernet (since it will do > either 10base-T or 10base-2, which was one of my requirements). FYI: I'm happily using this card (both sides of it) under WinNT and Linux with no problems. I've got the model with just the 10BT dongle, so I can't speak to the 2BT support. Peace, dNb From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 09:00:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA19692 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13561; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:57:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13371; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13333; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:57:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [158.152.127.170] (helo=moab.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zIufW-0004Ya-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:57:19 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:37:51 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Greg Terrell Subject: Re: What to clean the screen with?... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 List-Unsubscribe: > >Btw, post-it notes are great for getting dust and hairs out of >the edges and corners of the screen. :-) > I use a vacuum cleaner with a soft brush on screen and keyboard. -- Greg Terrell From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 09:54:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA20423 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:54:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16272; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:51:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:50:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16124; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-out-0.tiac.net (mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16082; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-out-3.tiac.net (mail-out-3.tiac.net [199.0.65.15]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20671 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:49:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: from ntmail.tiac.net (ntmail.doble.com [204.215.186.11]) by mail-out-3.tiac.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00695 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:49:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: by ntmail.tiac.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BDDFE7.D053BC70@ntmail.tiac.net>; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:58:56 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: 3 Gig HD on a 365ED (long tale of misery and triumph) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:58:54 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I was at a computer show this past weekend and saw this neat IBM travelstar 3 Gig HD. I bought it. Now I will have room to have linux-on-the-go as well as more space for Win95 and OS/2. It is 9.5 mm high (3 less than the 1 Gig HD I installed previously). Height is not a problem. There is a problem with the mounting holes. The mount for the HD are two metal halves that are held together via the screws that go into the HD casing. The whole assembly is held in via a tab that a screw goes through. The drive does fit snug in the assembly so I drilled two holes diagonally (one in the front and the back). This seemed to keep the unit held in place when in the laptop but I am going to tape the two halves together so it can be handled easier if needed. Also drill and deburr the new holes away from the new drive and make sure there are no metal filings on the pieces or the HD. The bios had no problem with the drive. The major problem is with the phdisk program. It could not create the save-to-disk partition without corrupting the partition table. Also with the partition present the computer would hang at the point after it checks the HD and before it checks the floppy so you cannot boot at all! I had to delete the partition by connecting the drive to another machine. Doing a Dejanews search showed that this is a problem with > 2 GB HD even with newer versions of the program. Unfortunately the version of phdisk on the latest 365 utility disk does not have the option to make a swap file on the C drive. It has to be a partition. You can do without the save-to-disk partition but you get a bios error message about the partition not being there on every bootup You cannot disable this message even if you do not use safe suspend. I spent the afternoon trying stuff like reducing the number of cylinders in the bios. I also tried defining a 27 meg partition toward the beginning of the disk when I partitioned out the disk then deleting it to make a free hole for the program to use (It seems the program ignores the in-use space and uses it anyway). All these attempts did not work. What finally worked was for me to use the OS/2 fdisk program to partition the disk out with two dos primary partitions (my 1.2 gig Win95 one and a 27 meg one) and an extended partition. I put the 27 meg partition right after the 1.2 gig dos partition. I then booted up linux with the boot disks and used the linux fdisk program to change the type id on the 27 meg partition to A0 (which I noticed was the partition type for the save-to-disk partition). When I rebooted there was a error message that the partition was corrupted and to rerun phdisk. Running the phdisk program without parameters it said that the good map table was bad and to reformat. I reformatted and now it works fine. So it looks like the problem is when phdisk creates a partition and not when reformatting an existing partition. I know a 1 gig drive upgrade works. A 2 gig drive upgrade may be a better choice if it had the same mounting hole pattern and if phdisk works with 2 gig drives. I now see if would have been better if I just got a two drive 2.5" adapter, used drivecopy to copy over the drives, used partition magic to resize everything, and reformatted the save-to-disk partition using phdisk. 73 Eric eac@shore.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 11:42:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA22113 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21671; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:32:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21256; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (kglp@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21233; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kglp@localhost) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA14353 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:32:11 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:32:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Ray Bayles To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: high-res screens from IBM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: News announcement from WebShopper ***** IBM THINKPAD PC ROCKETS TOWARD HIGHER RESOLUTION SAN MATEO (09/11/98) - IBM Corp. will unveil in October a version of the ThinkPad 770 that will be the first to use a new high-resolution LCD technology, code-named Monet. http://www.webshopper.com/jhtml/news.jhtml?aid=177792&src=nlCI0915c ***** From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 13:13:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23662 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:13:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27078; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:08:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26916; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:08:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26896; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-223-133.usc.edu [128.125.223.133]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id KAA00906 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809151707.KAA00906@almaak.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:06:47 -0700 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: TP 600: Incessant, repeating sounds? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, For one reason or another, I had a Windows 95 crash that forced me to reboot. In the rebooting process, the OS brought up Norton Disk Doctor to check a few things out & fix them (as it often does), but then...booting into Windows causes the sound device to continually repeat whatever the last sound made was. So if you do something to get a sound like "Tick", it then doesn't stop. You get a "Tick, tick, tick, tick..." that never ends. The machine works fine otherwise (except the last sound gets "stuck", forcing you to turn the sound all the way done so it doesn't drive you crazy). I've looked over the driver settings & etc. but can't seem to find anything wrong. I *suspect* its a damaged .dll file or something similar--I just don't know which one... Any tips? --- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net "It is hard to convince a high-school student that he will encounter a lot of problems more difficult than those of algebra and geometry," -- Edgar W. Howe in "Country Town Sayings", 1911. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 13:24:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23858 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28037; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:20:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27927; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27914; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (GREASYGIRL.brightware.com [206.156.118.187]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA00601; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000a01bde0cd$36947b60$bb769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "TP List" , "Randal Whittle" Subject: Re: TP 600: Incessant, repeating sounds? Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:20:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: My advice is to deep six the Symantec software. It has never worked for me without this sort of bug. I recently decided to stop using ANY Symantec software, after the NT Speed Disk application kept crashing on me. Utilities that provide only headaches are an oxymoron. David -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle To: TP List Date: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 10:11 AM Subject: TP 600: Incessant, repeating sounds? >Hi all, > >For one reason or another, I had a Windows 95 crash that forced me to >reboot. In the rebooting process, the OS brought up Norton Disk Doctor to >check a few things out & fix them (as it often does), but then...booting >into Windows causes the sound device to continually repeat whatever the >last sound made was. > >So if you do something to get a sound like "Tick", it then doesn't stop. >You get a "Tick, tick, tick, tick..." that never ends. The machine works >fine otherwise (except the last sound gets "stuck", forcing you to turn the >sound all the way done so it doesn't drive you crazy). > >I've looked over the driver settings & etc. but can't seem to find anything >wrong. I *suspect* its a damaged .dll file or something similar--I just >don't know which one... > >Any tips? > >--- >Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net > "It is hard to convince a high-school student that he will encounter a > lot of problems more difficult than those of algebra and geometry," > -- Edgar W. Howe in "Country Town Sayings", 1911. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 13:33:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23983 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28420; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:23:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28331; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:23:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.cutaway.com (cutaway.com [205.181.132.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28293; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cutaway.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:38:35 -0400 Message-ID: From: Michael T Rowan To: "'Randal Whittle'" , TP List Subject: RE: TP 600: Incessant, repeating sounds? Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:38:33 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: I get the same thing with NT and my TP770ed. But haven't had any time to chase it down or even consider chasing it down... -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@usa.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 1:07 PM To: TP List Subject: TP 600: Incessant, repeating sounds? Hi all, For one reason or another, I had a Windows 95 crash that forced me to reboot. In the rebooting process, the OS brought up Norton Disk Doctor to check a few things out & fix them (as it often does), but then...booting into Windows causes the sound device to continually repeat whatever the last sound made was. So if you do something to get a sound like "Tick", it then doesn't stop. You get a "Tick, tick, tick, tick..." that never ends. The machine works fine otherwise (except the last sound gets "stuck", forcing you to turn the sound all the way done so it doesn't drive you crazy). I've looked over the driver settings & etc. but can't seem to find anything wrong. I *suspect* its a damaged .dll file or something similar--I just don't know which one... Any tips? --- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net "It is hard to convince a high-school student that he will encounter a lot of problems more difficult than those of algebra and geometry," -- Edgar W. Howe in "Country Town Sayings", 1911. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 14:30:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA25164 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02809; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:20:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02368; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:20:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02226; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA09407 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:16:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809151816.NAA09407@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ali-ca52-27.ix.netcom.com(209.110.236.219) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma009161; Tue Sep 15 13:13:52 1998 Subject: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 11:13:51 -0700 x-sender: bfink@popd.ix.netcom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: bfink To: "thinkpad" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: Just a warning to Bay Area TP owners (esp. East Bay): DO NOT ever take a machine to MicroAge in Emeryville, CA for repair, even though they are an authorized IBM dealer and service center. Hearken to my tale of woe... 1. Bob buys TP770. TP770 turns out to have defective motherboard. IBM tech says to go to MicroAge to have it fixed. 2. I leave it there. They have to order part from IBM. I wait a week. I get a call from the tech that he is "dropping that board on in there" and I'll have my still-never-used-yet TP back in an hour. 3. Next thing you know, the entire video subsystem does not work. The machine is dead. I find out about this hours later after browbeating the temp on the phones until she finds a service manager. 4. I go medieval on IBM--but not medieval enough, because after 4 hours and 3 levels of bureaucracy, I cannot get them to give me another machine. (I assume it's a lemon.) I finally settle for having it shipped to Memphis and fixed by them ASAP. (ETA, another week.) They agree to throw in a 2 gig hard drive for my trouble. (I *asked* for a DVD drive, but hey...) 5. NOW THE NIGHTMARE. I have to go to MicroAge because the machine has *my* CD-ROM drive in it and also a 32MB dimm which I need to retrieve. I am ushered into the back and see the tech who has been working on my TP. EVERYTHING BECOMES PAINFULLY CLEAR, because the guy is a fumbling MORON. He is totally unable to get the CD-ROM out of the Ultrabay, and begins to dissassemble the machine, prying the keyboard off the body with a screwdriver, dropping screws onto the floor, losing little pieces of plastic. He takes out both of the Ultrabay levers and fiddles with them--even tries to put them in upside down. As he's screwing the taop back on the machine, I have to point out that one of tabs didn't go into the slot and if he tightens too much he'll snap the plastic off. The crowning glory: two opened and half-drunk cans of Surge soda *on* *his* *workbench*. Now I understand why the new board "didn't work". The man is a butcher. NEVER TAKE ANY EQUIPMENT TO MICROAGE. You have been warned. rwf ________________________________________________________________________ Robert Fink | Assistant Professor | "Mr. Rochberg's quartet is -- how Dept of Musicology | did we used to put it? -- beauti- UCLA | ful." [Stanford Humanities Ctr., 98-99] | | - Donal Henahan on CURRENT EMAIL: | Rochberg's 3rd bfink@ix.netcom.com | ________________________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 14:42:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA25390 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03693; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:39:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:38:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03608; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03596; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:38:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:37:45 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id OAA08781 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FEB3E2.D6AE8962@csc.com> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:37:22 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: What to clean the screen with?... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Every time this topic comes up on the list I'm always fascinated about the many different replies. I don't know why some people jump through hoops making their own cleaning solutions and worrying about the type of applicator, etc. I've used standard monitor screen wipes (the little alcohol-moistened towlettes in individual packages designed for cleaning monitors) to clean three different ThinkPad LCDs over the last 3.5 years. I clean the screens every 3-4 weeks or as they need it. The cleaners work fine, don't streak, don't hurt the case, and have never harmed the LCDs. Why not use a product already intended for that purpose? FYI: Used successfully on a 755Cs, 760EL, and 770. Later, Rob matthew tebbens wrote: > > I'm courious about that too.... > Everything I've tried so far leaves streaks.... > > Matthew > > On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Pooh wrote: > > > I'm sure this is a faq, and has probably been discussed to death, but... > > > > What do you guys recommend for cleaning your thinkpad's screen? I don't > > wanna use anything that's going to end up harming it. > > ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rbell1@nospam@csc.com ----------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 17:28:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA27959 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13381; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:19:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:18:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13196; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13180; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm ([12.79.12.55]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980915211725.VLDZ2794@ibm>; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 21:17:25 +0000 From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "bfink" , "thinkpad" Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:14:51 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980915211725.VLDZ2794@ibm> List-Unsubscribe: Why would anyone do that when EZSERVE is do damn good? ---------- > From: bfink > To: thinkpad > Subject: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area > Date: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 2:13 PM > > Just a warning to Bay Area TP owners (esp. East Bay): > > DO NOT ever take a machine to MicroAge in Emeryville, CA for repair, even > though they are an authorized IBM dealer and service center. Hearken to > my tale of woe... > > 1. Bob buys TP770. TP770 turns out to have defective motherboard. IBM > tech says to go to MicroAge to have it fixed. > > 2. I leave it there. They have to order part from IBM. I wait a week. > I get a call from the tech that he is "dropping that board on in there" > and I'll have my still-never-used-yet TP back in an hour. > > 3. Next thing you know, the entire video subsystem does not work. The > machine is dead. I find out about this hours later after browbeating the > temp on the phones until she finds a service manager. > > 4. I go medieval on IBM--but not medieval enough, because after 4 hours > and 3 levels of bureaucracy, I cannot get them to give me another > machine. (I assume it's a lemon.) I finally settle for having it shipped > to Memphis and fixed by them ASAP. (ETA, another week.) They agree to > throw in a 2 gig hard drive for my trouble. (I *asked* for a DVD drive, > but hey...) > > 5. NOW THE NIGHTMARE. I have to go to MicroAge because the machine has > *my* CD-ROM drive in it and also a 32MB dimm which I need to retrieve. I > am ushered into the back and see the tech who has been working on my TP. > EVERYTHING BECOMES PAINFULLY CLEAR, because the guy is a fumbling MORON. > He is totally unable to get the CD-ROM out of the Ultrabay, and begins to > dissassemble the machine, prying the keyboard off the body with a > screwdriver, dropping screws onto the floor, losing little pieces of > plastic. He takes out both of the Ultrabay levers and fiddles with > them--even tries to put them in upside down. As he's screwing the taop > back on the machine, I have to point out that one of tabs didn't go into > the slot and if he tightens too much he'll snap the plastic off. The > crowning glory: two opened and half-drunk cans of Surge soda *on* *his* > *workbench*. Now I understand why the new board "didn't work". The man > is a butcher. > > NEVER TAKE ANY EQUIPMENT TO MICROAGE. > > You have been warned. > > rwf > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Robert Fink | > Assistant Professor | "Mr. Rochberg's quartet is -- how > Dept of Musicology | did we used to put it? -- beauti- > UCLA | ful." > [Stanford Humanities Ctr., 98-99] | > | - Donal Henahan on > > CURRENT EMAIL: | Rochberg's 3rd > bfink@ix.netcom.com | > ________________________________________________________________________ > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 18:19:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA28777 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:19:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16091; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:15:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15977; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15936; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ciscoserv-230-102.usc.edu [128.125.230.102]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id PAA23972; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809152215.PAA23972@almaak.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:30:19 -0700 To: I Lee Hetherington , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Solution (Was: TP 600: Incessant, repeating sounds?) In-Reply-To: <35FEBA7A.5D7E5B65@sls.lcs.mit.edu> References: <199809151707.KAA00906@almaak.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 03:05 PM 9/15/98 -0400, you wrote: >I would reinstall the sound drivers from floppy, after downloading them >from IBM. I tried that--no dice. However, after that, I tried re-installing the drivers for the DSP chip (sort of mistakenly hiding under "Modem drivers" on IBM's web site). That solved the problem. I'm presuming one of those files/drivers was corrupted, and that DSP chip controls modem functions, sound, and I don't know what else. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 18:24:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA28842 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:24:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16448; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:22:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:21:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16349; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:21:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp0-alterdial.uu.net (smtp0-alterdial.UU.NET [192.48.96.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16337; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop0-alterdial.uu.net by smtp0-alterdial.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop0-alterdial.UU.NET [192.48.96.27]) id QQfgzp01888; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:21:16 GMT Received: from ibm600 by pop0-alterdial.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: 1Cust116.tnt14.chi5.da.uu.net [153.36.172.116]) id QQfgzp08578; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:21:15 GMT Message-ID: <199809151719220573.0029BCD1@alterdial.uu.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 2.40.41.04 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:19:22 -0500 From: "Michael Mahoney" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: .V90 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Has anybody seen or know when the NT V90 update for the Tp 600 is coming= out? Thanks Michael Mahoney mahoneym@pop.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 22:24:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02805 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:24:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25229; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:21:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:18:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24989; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24973; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:17:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA03181; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:16:32 -1000 Message-ID: <003b01bde118$0dbe9360$a3197e82@ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Bruce Markowitz" , "bfink" , "thinkpad" Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 21:16:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >Why would anyone do that when EZSERVE is do damn good? Last time I had a problem and called IBM service, they tried really hard to talk me into taking my machine to a local authorized service place, and only gave in and set me up with an EasyServe case number when I rattled off a list of Honolulu's 'Most Bumbling Service Centers' and he confirmed that it included all of the local authorized centers. I don't know if or why IBM is starting to push for using local service, and I don't know why the laptop company with the best mail-in service has contracted with such lame local companies. David A. Ross ross@math.hawaii.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 22:59:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA03341 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26550; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:51:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26446; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (root@amber.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26429; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sinai.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@sinai.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA16832; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by sinai.ccs.neu.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA13336; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: jzawodn@wcnet.org (Jeremy D. Zawodny) Cc: richard , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 3com nic/modem References: <199809081934.PAA11020@astor.interport.net> From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 15 Sep 1998 22:51:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: dnb@ccs.neu.edu's message of "15 Sep 1998 08:55:48 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.43/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) writes: > jzawodn@wcnet.org (Jeremy D. Zawodny) writes: > > > So, I picked up 3Com 3C589D to handle the Ethernet (since it will do > > either 10base-T or 10base-2, which was one of my requirements). Whoops. Make that a 3C562D that I'm happily using. Peace, dNb From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 15 23:10:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03504 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 23:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27344; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 23:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 23:08:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27229; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 23:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27215; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 23:08:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA03420; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:07:47 -1000 Message-ID: <009501bde11f$36086ec0$a3197e82@ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Rob Bell" , Subject: Re: What to clean the screen with?... Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:07:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >Every time this topic comes up on the list I'm always fascinated about >the many different replies. I don't know why some people jump through >hoops making their own cleaning solutions and worrying about the type of >applicator, etc. I've used standard monitor screen wipes (the little >alcohol-moistened towlettes in individual packages designed for cleaning >monitors) [snip] Of course, these are small-fiber paper cloths soaked in a 50/50 alcohol/water mixture, the same solution IBM and many of us have recommended. I keep several of these in my laptop case. However, when I'm at home I prefer to make up my own solution, since for the cost of one little wipe I can clean my screen using homemadeseveral hundred times:-) Seriously, the same solution works well to clean the keyboard and case (with the machine off!), and the little wipes dry out too fast to do this well. - David R. to clean three different ThinkPad LCDs over the last 3.5 >years. I clean the screens every 3-4 weeks or as they need it. The >cleaners work fine, don't streak, don't hurt the case, and have never >harmed the LCDs. Why not use a product already intended for that >purpose? > >FYI: Used successfully on a 755Cs, 760EL, and 770. > >Later, >Rob > >matthew tebbens wrote: >> >> I'm courious about that too.... >> Everything I've tried so far leaves streaks.... >> >> Matthew >> >> On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Pooh wrote: >> >> > I'm sure this is a faq, and has probably been discussed to death, but... >> > >> > What do you guys recommend for cleaning your thinkpad's screen? I don't >> > wanna use anything that's going to end up harming it. >> > > > >----------------------------------------- >Rob Bell >Senior Consultant, CPD Professional >CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN >rbell1@nospam@csc.com >----------------------------------------- > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 00:46:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA05198 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00508; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:43:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:42:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00364; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from afl.engin.umich.edu (root@afl.engin.umich.edu [141.211.163.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00352; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:42:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (rvijayak@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by afl.engin.umich.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA03671 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:42:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:42:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Rajiv Kumar Vijayakumar To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Can't obtain 380XD - AAU In-Reply-To: <199809151719220573.0029BCD1@alterdial.uu.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I've been trying to get hold of a 380XD model 2635 AAU - it's the 266 Pentium/ 5.1G / TFT model. Nearly everyone I've spoken to (Value America / CDW / PC Warehouse / a local dealer) tells me that this model has been withdrawn. However, everytime I call IBM -or check their website-, they assure me that it has not! Does anyone have any clue as to what might be going on here ? CompUSA Direct did say they could backorder this model. However the sales rep said that a shipment they were expecting last week did not arrive, so I'm a li'l suspicious. The AAU suits me perfectly and its extremely annoying that it's the only model that nobody seems to carry. Help! I've been calling the 1-800-772-2227 number to get my info, so I've been talking to some tech support guy. Is there a better source ? My apologies if this is too off-topic. Thanks, Rajiv. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 02:34:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07146 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05536; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:32:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:32:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05428; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:32:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05416; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (235.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.235]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA28187; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FF5BE9.E6B0DA2B@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:34:17 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rajiv Kumar Vijayakumar CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Can't obtain 380XD - AAU References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Rajiv.. not so off topic.. :-) I heard today, from one of my vendors, that IBM is slow in delivering the more popular machines.. this includes desktop type machines as well as thinkpads.. i tried to order a 385 from a distributor, for a customer, last week and was told these machines are hard to get.. my sales rep offered to get me into the queue for expedited delivery, but this customer decided the machine was too much $$ Rajiv Kumar Vijayakumar wrote: > > Hi, > > I've been trying to get hold of a 380XD model 2635 AAU - it's the 266 > Pentium/ 5.1G / TFT model. Nearly everyone I've spoken to (Value America / > CDW / PC Warehouse / a local dealer) tells me that this model has been > withdrawn. However, everytime I call IBM -or check their website-, they > assure me that it has not! > > Does anyone have any clue as to what might be going on here ? > > CompUSA Direct did say they could backorder this model. However the sales > rep said that a shipment they were expecting last week did not arrive, so > I'm a li'l suspicious. > > The AAU suits me perfectly and its extremely annoying that it's the only > model that nobody seems to carry. > > Help! I've been calling the 1-800-772-2227 number to get my info, so I've > been talking to some tech support guy. Is there a better source ? > > My apologies if this is too off-topic. > > Thanks, > Rajiv. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 02:43:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07295 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05975; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:36:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05860; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:36:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05848; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:36:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (235.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.235]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA14921; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FF5CD6.ADB03827@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:38:14 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Ross CC: Bruce Markowitz , bfink , thinkpad Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area References: <003b01bde118$0dbe9360$a3197e82@ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: David.. IBM sold off the memphis repair center last year (i think) and things have not been the same since.. David Ross wrote: > > >Why would anyone do that when EZSERVE is do damn good? > > Last time I had a problem and called IBM service, they tried really hard to talk me into taking my machine to a local authorized > service place, and only gave in and set me up with an EasyServe case number when I rattled off a list of Honolulu's 'Most Bumbling > Service Centers' and he confirmed that it included all of the local authorized centers. > > I don't know if or why IBM is starting to push for using local service, and I don't know why the laptop company with the best > mail-in service has contracted with such lame local companies. > > David A. Ross > ross@math.hawaii.edu -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 02:47:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07329 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06396; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:44:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06290; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:44:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06277; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (235.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.235]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA03861; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FF5ECA.5C7F16B7@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:46:34 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Turgut Kalfaoglu CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP 600 Screen References: <199809141908.XAA26632@home.egenet.com.tr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Turgut... the 600 display, if a TFT display, should be very bright.. however, with the sun shining on the display..... Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Is the TP 600's screen quite dark (even with the power saving thing turned to > 'bright'), or is it me? > > I mean, even inside the office, if brightly lit, I have trouble with it. > I was thinking of using it on a the bus to work, but next to the window, I > wonder how possible it will be! > > Any suggestions? Thanks! -turgut > > - --------- > Turgut Kalfaoglu > EgeNet http://www.egenet.com.tr > BBS-TURK http://bbsturk.bbs.tr > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBNf2v2DJjYwErN0xZAQFAWAP/UfYf26vNA15ibzkxKas47HBwENLQjR9M > 4rwieqqlY4e9F66kuLskNdE6JOrQ+KEHCgMx2CmTjWCfzy+IMnM/F4lPwmU0pEOw > g9i80OzHyyIwPc4QXHTq75FymVcA2JeD/kXysng57Fj9U+19H1UYIxxYVwN4H981 > /Db3ZmVD8GI= > =IbLU > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 02:50:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07364 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06685; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:48:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06583; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06552; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (235.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.235]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA25954; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FF5FAD.795EDFA3@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:50:21 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Geary CC: Paul Rubin , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Wake up! SXGA display References: <002f01bde02e$75e71d80$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: FWIW, my 16inch IBM TFT Monitor is SXGA and the size is maybe 1mm more than 10 inches tall and 1 mm more than 12.5 inches wide.. if these new displays are better than this, they will be dazzeling.. :-) Michael Geary wrote: > > > While I'm glad to see higher resolution, I'm somewhat > > surprised that IBM (supposedly) chose to go with 1280 x > > 1024. 640 x 480, 800 x 600, and 1024 x 768 all offer a 1:1.33 > > aspect ratio and that allows screens to get bigger without > > distorting in size (since LCDs aren't as flexible as cathode > > ray tubes in this regard). 1280 x 1024 however has a 1:1.25 > > ratio and it looks, to my eyes, a little weird. I believe that > > 1152 x 864 would have been a better choice and simpler, from a > > technical standpoint. > > I think the question here is whether you get square pixels or not. In a > typical 4:3 screen, 1280x960 would give square pixels. > > You certainly could build a 1280x1024 screen with square pixels. It would > just have to be taller, 5:4 instead of 4:3. It will be interesting to see > what this screen actually turns out to be. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 02:58:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07499 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06974; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:54:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06877; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06864; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:54:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (235.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.235]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA02476; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FF6129.33566DE8@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:56:41 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Geary CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Lousy mouse buttons References: <199809140603.BAA01464@rgate.ricochet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Michael.. If you are discussing the 760 series keyboards, i don't think they are lexmark.. lexmark did make the 750/755 series keyboards and THOSE are some of the BEST..!! the 760 series keyboard is really poor for a number of reasons, one of which is it wears out quickly.. the key mechanism, that is.. the key landing is soft, rather than hard (like the 755 kbd) and the tilt up mechanism makes the feel worse.. you can lock the keyboard in the lowered position and get the 'heft' of the machine to back up the keyboard and you'll get a slightly better feel.. Michael Geary wrote: > > I feel like griping about something. > > I think my ThinkPads are just terrific, all three of them. But there's one > thing that IBM just can't seem to get right: the mouse buttons. > > What is the deal here? Everybody else knows how to make nice snappy mouse > buttons, but not IBM (or I suppose Lexmark). I've got five--count > 'em--five--of the desktop Lexmark TrackPoint keyboards, and every one of > them suffered mouse button failure after six months use. (That's why I've > got so many of them!) You probably know the symptom: the left button in > particular (because that's the one you use most) gets real mushy, and you > have to press it pretty hard to get it to "click". There's no snap to it at > all, just a mashy kind of action. > > My refurb 701C arrived in the same condition, but IBM replaced the keyboard > and it will be OK for a little while. The 760E is tolerable, but I'll > certainly get its keyboard replaced before the warranty runs out. The 600 > is pretty reasonable, but time will tell. Maybe they've improved the > mechanism. But it still isn't anywhere near as good as any of the cheap > mice or other notebook mouse buttons I've tried. > > It's really not that hard to make a mouse button with a nice reliable snap > action: you use a good microswitch instead of the flimsy, unreliable dome > switch I saw when I took apart one of my desktop keyboards. > > I've never seen anyone else complain about this, but every long-time > ThinkPad user must have run into it. Does everyone else just put up with > it, or get their keyboards replaced repeatedly, or what? > > If I were Ted Selker (inventor of the TrackPoint), I'd be hopping mad that > my invention was botched with such lousy buttons. > > -Mike > > http://www.geary.com > mailto:mg@mg.to > ham:WJ6V -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 02:59:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07510 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:59:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07119; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:56:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07040; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07028; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:56:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA07104; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 23:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809160654.XAA07104@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "bfink" Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 23:55:13 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area List-Unsubscribe: > >NEVER TAKE ANY EQUIPMENT TO MICROAGE. > >You have been warned. A very near experiance happened, except that when they shipped the machine to EasyServe, they wanted ME to pay for it. So the insurance company picked up the tab, ironically let me keep the 355C, and that's how I got my 701CS. And the a**holes at that company went out of business about 2 weeks later. I'll never forget the horrible experiance I had there. I practically called them almost every day, several times every day for a month after they've had the machine. And they had it for 6 MONTHS!!!!! -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 03:04:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA07583 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07858; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:59:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07448; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07413; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:59:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (235.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.235]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA29902; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FF624A.89619833@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:01:30 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List , Paul Rubin Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 13 Sep 1998 References: <199809140647.XAA15986@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. Paul Khoury wrote: > *** snip *** > > What about VR glasses used as monitors? sounds good to me.. got any.. ?? :-) > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 03:05:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA07591 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:05:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07880; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:01:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:59:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07451; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07412; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:59:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA07219 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 23:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809160657.XAA07219@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 23:58:10 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP701 - Dock II and Warp 3 List-Unsubscribe: Can I install Warp 3 Connect via a CD-ROM through the Dock II? Do I need a SCSI or an IDE CD-ROM? Any other caveats? What about when undocked, or docking back? Warm docking okay? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 03:05:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA07599 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08081; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:02:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:59:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07550; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07502; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA07234; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 23:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809160657.XAA07234@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 23:58:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:38:14 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >David.. >IBM sold off the memphis repair center last year (i think) and things >have not been the same since.. So Easyserve doesn't exist? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 03:08:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA07644 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:08:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08145; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:03:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:02:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08087; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07997; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (235.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.235]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA15848; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FF62F1.5C24E8BA@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:04:17 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bukys@cs.rochester.edu CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: spurious taps from TrackPoint III References: <199809141351.JAA12855@atto.cs.rochester.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Sounds like the trackpoint is a bit loose.. bukys@cs.rochester.edu wrote: > > Just typing on my keyboard generates spurious "mouse tap" events on the > TrackPoint III on my TP770. (Depending on the location of the cursor, > this gets quite messy, as the mouse tap moves the cursor or presses a > random button.) > > I had the TrackPoint sensitivity set to "lightest touch", and turning > it back down toward "medium" or "firm touch" has helped but not > entirely eliminated the problem. > > I realize that I could disable "press to select", but I use it a lot > and would miss it. > > My questions: > A. Has anyone else had these problems? > B. Does it get worse over time? > C. Has anyone had a repair experience for this problem? -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 03:12:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA07671 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08931; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:09:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08851; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08839; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:09:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (235.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.235]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA29694; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FF64BA.51622589@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:11:54 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area References: <199809160657.XAA07234@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. easeserve still exists and is under contract with IBM.. but it seems that they must get a fixed amount for each repair.. a few years ago, if you sent a machine in with a worn out trackpoint tip, it would be replaced.. crack in the case, free replacement.. NOW, they want to charge for such things.. when they return the machine it comes fedex next day afternoon or even two day rather than the old fedex priority service.. on the surface it is still easy serve, but the ownership is no longer IBM.. Paul Khoury wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:38:14 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > >David.. > >IBM sold off the memphis repair center last year (i think) and things > >have not been the same since.. > > So Easyserve doesn't exist? > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 03:14:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA07750 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09122; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:10:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09006; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:10:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08968; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (235.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.235]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA00228; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FF64EE.86F39C45@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:12:46 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: turgut kalfaoglu CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP 600 Screen References: <199809160600.KAA25158@home.egenet.com.tr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Turgut.. that is the cheap display, not as good as a TFT display.. and not as bright.. turgut kalfaoglu wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:46:34 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > >Turgut... > >the 600 display, if a TFT display, should be very bright.. > >however, with the sun shining on the display..... > > TP600 has something called 'High Performance Display' (cheaper than TFT, better than LCD > :) I really dont know how it compares to TFT as I have not seen any TFT's lately.. -t > > - -- > turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. > Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr > http://bbsturk.bbs.tr > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBNf+Z8TJjYwErN0xZAQFPLgP/SaZ+41StsU5TZxdUOmLICIS9kzRzbF2b > mqvPxc43HDrbc7QHDdmiJtFEjfASMiYDVumgePjuEnDW2h6oroo2KqZw878T0PgP > epaMI+dt9IEh3WUoZeMpfRQBdP3K42N0z0Io6DKsEHDT3EwkoJdx6TvsF5+fhGlm > 9zoKcLZVlj0= > =LFtX > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 03:17:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA07785 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:17:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09589; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:13:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09376; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rzaixsrv2.rrz.uni-hamburg.de (rzaixsrv2.rrz.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.33.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09353; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plexus.uke.uni-hamburg.de (plexus.uke.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.96.1]) by rzaixsrv2.rrz.uni-hamburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA27332 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:12:45 +0200 Received: from localhost by plexus.uke.uni-hamburg.de; (5.65/imdm-2.0) id AA23107; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:12:47 +0200 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:12:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Thorsten Jaekel To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 600 screen In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University Hospital Eppendorf / Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi there, were you guys discussing the 13.3' TFT screnn or the 13' HPA?? Anyone have comments on the TP 600 13' HPA? I am going to buy a TP 600 soon, and since the (German) price for the TFT models is outrageous I was gona go with the HPA (I don't play games or use graphics-intensive real color applications, mostly just office stuff - not MS office that is). Please no general comments about DSTN/TFT issues, just the TP 600 13' HPA! Thanks, Thorsten From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 03:22:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA07821 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:22:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10304; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:18:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:17:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10058; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10039; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:17:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (235.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.235]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA00835; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FF6652.A7F3C7BD@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:18:42 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Cottrell, Eric" CC: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: 3 Gig HD on a 365ED (long tale of misery and triumph) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Eric.. 1. mounting holes are different on all drives over 1.4gigs.. the same time the drive select pins were reversed they moved the mounting holes closer to the corners.. 2. interesting gymnastics to get a hibernate partition.. i never used a 365... since they are/were mfg. by acer in taiwan they are different.. Cottrell, Eric wrote: > > Hello, > > I was at a computer show this past weekend and saw this neat > IBM travelstar 3 Gig HD. I bought it. Now I will have room > to have linux-on-the-go as well as more space for Win95 and OS/2. > > It is 9.5 mm high (3 less than the 1 Gig HD I installed previously). > Height is not a problem. There is a problem with the mounting > holes. The mount for the HD are two metal halves that are held > together via the screws that go into the HD casing. The whole > assembly is held in via a tab that a screw goes through. The > drive does fit snug in the assembly so I drilled two holes diagonally > (one in the front and the back). This seemed to keep the unit > held in place when in the laptop but I am going to tape the two > halves together so it can be handled easier if needed. Also > drill and deburr the new holes away from the new drive and > make sure there are no metal filings on the pieces or the > HD. > > The bios had no problem with the drive. The major problem is > with the phdisk program. It could not create the save-to-disk > partition without corrupting the partition table. Also with the > partition > present the computer would hang at the point after it checks the HD > and before it checks the floppy so you cannot boot at all! I had to > delete the partition by connecting the drive to another machine. > > Doing a Dejanews search showed that this is a problem with > 2 GB HD > even with newer versions of the program. Unfortunately the version > of phdisk on the latest 365 utility disk does not have the option > to make a swap file on the C drive. It has to be a partition. > You can do without the save-to-disk partition but you get a bios > error message about the partition not being there on every bootup > You cannot disable this message even if you do not use safe suspend. > > I spent the afternoon trying stuff like reducing the number of > cylinders in the bios. I also tried defining a 27 meg partition toward > the beginning of the disk when I partitioned out the disk then deleting > it > to make a free hole for the program to use (It seems the program ignores > the > in-use space and uses it anyway). All these attempts did not work. > > What finally worked was for me to use the OS/2 fdisk program to > partition the disk out with two dos primary partitions (my 1.2 gig > Win95 one and a 27 meg one) and an extended partition. I put the > 27 meg partition right after the 1.2 gig dos partition. I then booted > up > linux with the boot disks and used the linux fdisk program to change > the type id on the 27 meg partition to A0 (which I noticed was the > partition type for the save-to-disk partition). When I rebooted there > was a error message that the partition was corrupted and to rerun > phdisk. Running the phdisk program without parameters it said that > the good map table was bad and to reformat. I reformatted and now > it works fine. So it looks like the problem is when phdisk creates a > partition and not when reformatting an existing partition. > > I know a 1 gig drive upgrade works. A 2 gig drive upgrade may be > a better choice if it had the same mounting hole pattern and > if phdisk works with 2 gig drives. > > I now see if would have been better if I just got a two drive 2.5" > adapter, > used drivecopy to copy over the drives, used partition magic > to resize everything, and reformatted the save-to-disk partition > using phdisk. > > 73 Eric eac@shore.net -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 03:58:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA08289 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:58:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12040; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:52:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11958; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:52:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11944; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:51:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (235.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.235]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA04794; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FF6E9E.23D422A2@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:54:06 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Battery recharge strange behavior References: <199809131156.EAA10691@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. when charging a battery it CAN get hot, especially if something goes wrong and the charger does not turn off.. thus the thermostat.. better that that a load of lawsuits.. :-) battery life on the 770 is3 to 4 hours.. maybe more.. Paul Khoury wrote: > > On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:00:18 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > >These batteries all have a thermostat thing.. sensor.. > >if the battery gets too hot, it turns it off..!! > >this is, i suppose, to prevent little bits of the computer from hitting > >you in the face when it explodes from getting too hot.. :-) > > Does the TP770 get that hot? I recommended it to one of my friends > who just immigrated here for school (and can't wait to check it out), > but maybe he got something else. > > How is the battery life? > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 03:59:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA08295 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12223; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:53:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12125; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:53:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12109; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:53:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (235.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.235]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA04946; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35FF6F02.CF722C@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:55:46 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: Paul Rubin , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Wake up! SXGA display References: <199809131154.EAA10680@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. thats exactly what i mean.. the onboard will sure be correct, but the current crop of 770 memory won't work in the 770X series IF it does have the 100mhz buss.. Paul Khoury wrote: > > On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 03:52:51 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > >Paul, et al... > >Also, it is SUPPOSED to have the 100mhz buss.. > >which means that memory will need to be upgraded.. > > What do you mean the memory needs to be upgraded? I'm sure the on-board > RAM will be good for basic applications, but the upgrades would have to be PC-100 > (which is a faster memory that can handle the 100MHz bus speeds), as opposed > to SDRAM or EDO DRAM. > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 04:00:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA08319 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:00:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12499; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:57:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12408; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12378; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA09062 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199809160754.AAA09062@ritchie.loop.com> Message-Id: <199809160754.AAA09062@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" Resent-From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" X-Original-To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Date: Wed, 16 Sep 98 00:54:40 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:11:54 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >Paul.. >easeserve still exists and is under contract with IBM.. >but it seems that they must get a fixed amount for each repair.. > >a few years ago, if you sent a machine in with a worn out trackpoint >tip, it would be replaced.. >crack in the case, free replacement.. > >NOW, they want to charge for such things.. > >when they return the machine it comes fedex next day afternoon or even >two day rather than the old fedex priority service.. > >on the surface it is still easy serve, but the ownership is no longer >IBM.. I'm not surprised. No wonder they wanted $3200 for the repairs last time, but IBM paid the bill to keep me satisfied. Well, I suppose I might be cheaper buying a barebones used 701 then, and switch the memory, HD, etc, right? Anyone wanna sell their 701 CHEAP? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 07:12:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA10212 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:12:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25547; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:08:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25414; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucy.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25402; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:08:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seawesta-68.az.com (seawesta-68.az.com [204.201.18.68]) by lucy.az.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA01511 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809161102.EAA01511@lucy.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Wed, 16 Sep 98 04:17:33 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What to clean the screen with?... List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:35:19 -0500, David Ross wrote: >Following up on what Birger Petterson and Slip said, a 50/50 mix of >isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol and water is great for both screens and Would you recommend 90% purity or better? That's what I use on removing stickers off things that people have placed on my things (grrr I hate that). Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 07:55:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA10693 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26959; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:52:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26825; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:52:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns2.gis.net (ns2.gis.net [208.218.130.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26812; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:52:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SYC760.connectingpoint.net ([216.41.31.22]) by ns2.gis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8+djf) with SMTP id HAA25678; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000a01bde167$417af460$4501a8c0@SYC760.connectingpoint.net> From: "Syclopse" To: "David Ross" , "Bruce Markowitz" , "bfink" , "thinkpad" Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:43:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Wow... I'm the IBM Technician down at Omnitech Inc. located in Hyannis, MA. This is interesting reading all this about service centers. Personally I've never had one complaint from a Thinkpad owner. Basically IBM is not trying to rid EZ-SERV, All IBM Business Partners are authorized to service Netfinity Servers, PC Workstations (not Aptiva's) and Thinkpad models. IBM only asks people to bring their laptop to a service center because 90% of the time it is something simple and 90% of the laptop owners out there cannot figure out the instructions included in the EZ-SERV box to pack it and ship it back to IBM. Once I receive a Thinkpad, I'll look for the obvious and simple fix, if it has to do anything with hardware on a 385,600 or 770 series I myself will setup the EZ-SERV with IBM. Any other model I will tear down myself and order the parts. If the parts are not in-stock. Then off to EZ-SERV it goes. Basically I can see how some service centers have people working their as technicians that the night before they were selling fries. Since I've been IBM Authorized at Omnitech for over 3 years, I've seen about (5) so called technicians come and go. Also it seems that the tech you ran into didn't open a HMM or even sit down and watch one of the many videos IBM sends us on taking apart Thinkpads. John Kourafas (A+ Certified) TP760ED running Linux 5.0 Omnitech Inc. (dba Connecting Point Computer of CapeCod) IBM Business Partner Compaq Authorized Service Center Packard Bell / NEC Authorized Service Center Acer / TI Authorized Service Center -----Original Message----- From: David Ross To: Bruce Markowitz ; bfink ; thinkpad Date: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 10:20 PM Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area >>Why would anyone do that when EZSERVE is do damn good? > > >Last time I had a problem and called IBM service, they tried really hard to talk me into taking my machine to a local authorized >service place, and only gave in and set me up with an EasyServe case number when I rattled off a list of Honolulu's 'Most Bumbling >Service Centers' and he confirmed that it included all of the local authorized centers. > >I don't know if or why IBM is starting to push for using local service, and I don't know why the laptop company with the best >mail-in service has contracted with such lame local companies. > >David A. Ross >ross@math.hawaii.edu > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 08:05:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA10814 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27456; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:02:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27337; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:02:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns2.gis.net (ns2.gis.net [208.218.130.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27325; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SYC760.connectingpoint.net ([216.41.31.22]) by ns2.gis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8+djf) with SMTP id IAA25745; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003101bde168$b291f440$4501a8c0@SYC760.connectingpoint.net> From: "Syclopse" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , "Paul Khoury" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:53:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >Paul.. >a few years ago, if you sent a machine in with a worn out trackpoint >tip, it would be replaced.. >crack in the case, free replacement.. Hmmm, must be what tech at EZ-SERV you get to work on your thinkpad. I sent a 560 out last week for a HD replacement. The LCD had "wear" marks from the mouse buttons and to my surprise EZ-SERV replaced the customers LCD. Customer was very excited. John Kourafas >when they return the machine it comes fedex next day afternoon or even >two day rather than the old fedex priority service.. > >on the surface it is still easy serve, but the ownership is no longer >IBM.. > > >Paul Khoury wrote: >> >> On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:38:14 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >> >> >David.. >> >IBM sold off the memphis repair center last year (i think) and things >> >have not been the same since.. >> >> So Easyserve doesn't exist? >> -- >> Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 >> http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) >> Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 >> ICQ#14582895 > >-- >Happy Trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html >bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net >770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), >770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), >760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), >701C(6.3gig, 40meg), >755CE(no gig, 40meg), >750C(no gig, 4meg), >IBM WorkPad(1meg) > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 08:31:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA11108 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:31:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28503; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:29:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:28:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28355; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28341; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17921 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:28:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dts_jl (rasgvnt0104.uhc.com [168.183.199.68]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA17912 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:28:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980916081749.00b45800@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:17:49 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Can't obtain 380XD - AAU In-Reply-To: References: <199809151719220573.0029BCD1@alterdial.uu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:42 AM 9/16/98 -0400, Rajiv Kumar Vijayakumar wrote: >I've been trying to get hold of a 380XD model 2635 AAU - it's the 266 >Pentium/ 5.1G / TFT model. Nearly everyone I've spoken to (Value America / >CDW / PC Warehouse / a local dealer) tells me that this model has been >withdrawn. However, everytime I call IBM -or check their website-, they >assure me that it has not! > >Does anyone have any clue as to what might be going on here ? > EOP was March 1998. You're out of luck unless you happen across someplace that still has one in stock. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 08:58:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA11372 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:58:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29683; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:56:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:55:54 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29594; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id IAA29377; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07442; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.ege.edu.tr (tk-os2.ege.edu.tr [155.223.1.200]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25158; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:00:48 +0400 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199809160600.KAA25158@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:58:57 +0200 Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 600 Screen List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:46:34 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >Turgut... >the 600 display, if a TFT display, should be very bright.. >however, with the sun shining on the display..... TP600 has something called 'High Performance Display' (cheaper than TFT, better than LCD :) I really dont know how it compares to TFT as I have not seen any TFT's lately.. -t - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNf+Z8TJjYwErN0xZAQFPLgP/SaZ+41StsU5TZxdUOmLICIS9kzRzbF2b mqvPxc43HDrbc7QHDdmiJtFEjfASMiYDVumgePjuEnDW2h6oroo2KqZw878T0PgP epaMI+dt9IEh3WUoZeMpfRQBdP3K42N0z0Io6DKsEHDT3EwkoJdx6TvsF5+fhGlm 9zoKcLZVlj0= =LFtX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 09:55:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA12307 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03532; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:52:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03381; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:52:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03369; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:51:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA28842 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:51:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:51:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area In-Reply-To: <35FF64BA.51622589@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > Paul.. > easeserve still exists and is under contract with IBM.. > but it seems that they must get a fixed amount for each repair.. > > a few years ago, if you sent a machine in with a worn out trackpoint > tip, it would be replaced.. > crack in the case, free replacement.. > > NOW, they want to charge for such things.. Hmm, that explains it. I just sent my 701 for repair (warranty expires in November). They wanted $320 to repair a cracked lid case (I'd used $2 on epoxy to fix it, but the epoxy gave way recently) and glue back the four rubber feet. I asked how much for the rubber feet and he said $320 - apparently they have a minimum price for repairs now. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 10:51:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA13241 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06696; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:48:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:47:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06528; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06500; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12975 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:46:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dts_jl (rasgvnt0135.uhc.com [168.183.199.99]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA12941 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:46:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980916103552.00ae9380@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:35:52 -0400 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area In-Reply-To: <35FF5CD6.ADB03827@icanect.net> References: <003b01bde118$0dbe9360$a3197e82@ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 02:38 AM 9/16/98 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: >IBM sold off the memphis repair center last year (i think) and things >have not been the same since.. > As with all things, YMMV. I had purchased a used TP755Cse with a bad LCD (still worked but was pale and faded) for my father over a year ago. There was one year left on the warranty when I bought it. At the end of August this year, I finally called for service (on the last day of the warranty), sent it in to EZServ on a Friday and had it back by Tuesday with a new LCD. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 12:56:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA15328 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:56:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13769; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:50:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13516; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:50:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13500; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809161650.MAA13500@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Thu, 15 Sep 1988 9:46:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor Kress" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Thorsten Jaekel" Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:51:19 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 600 screen List-Unsubscribe: The HPA is not as nice as the TFT, but it is very good, and appears to use less battery power (I get up to 4 hours without special settings on power management). It is orders of magnitude better than past dual scans. No problems with loosing the cursor. You will really notice it with mpeg movies and in bright light. For most static indoor uses, except photo editing, you will probably be well satisfied, and you can use the extra $800 (or equivalent) for add ons, or a nice external monitor for home and work :). On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:12:47 +0200 (MET DST), Thorsten Jaekel wrote: >Hi there, > >were you guys discussing the 13.3' TFT screnn or the 13' HPA?? >Anyone have comments on the TP 600 13' HPA? >I am going to buy a TP 600 soon, and since the (German) price for the TFT >models is outrageous I was gona go with the HPA (I don't play games or use >graphics-intensive real color applications, mostly just office stuff - not >MS office that is). >Please no general comments about DSTN/TFT issues, just the TP 600 13' HPA! > >Thanks, Thorsten > ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 12:57:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA15354 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:57:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13879; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:54:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:53:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13727; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:53:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13709; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA17976; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:53:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Randal Whittle" , "TP List" Subject: RE: TP 600: Incessant, repeating sounds? Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:53:01 -0700 Message-ID: <002a01bde192$76e55de0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199809151707.KAA00906@almaak.usc.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: That's a pretty typical symptom of an IRQ (or maybe DMA?) conflict on the sound device. Not likely to be a corrupted file. I would try resetting some things. Hold down F1 when you boot up and use the Reset option in the BIOS settings. If that doesn't help, try the Default button in the ThinkPad Configuration. Or check the settings in Device Manager--maybe it will tell you about an IRQ conflict. -Mike http://www.geary.com mailto:mg@mg.to ham:WJ6V > -----Original Message----- > From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@usa.net] > Subject: TP 600: Incessant, repeating sounds? > > For one reason or another, I had a Windows 95 crash that forced me to > reboot. In the rebooting process, the OS brought up Norton Disk Doctor to > check a few things out & fix them (as it often does), but then...booting > into Windows causes the sound device to continually repeat whatever the > last sound made was. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 13:06:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA15567 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:06:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14543; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:02:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:01:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14414; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14397; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA19161; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:00:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Cc: Subject: RE: Wake up! SXGA display Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:00:42 -0700 Message-ID: <002b01bde193$89a8dff0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <35FF5FAD.795EDFA3@icanect.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > Michael Geary wrote: > > > > > While I'm glad to see higher resolution, I'm somewhat > > > surprised that IBM (supposedly) chose to go with 1280 x > > > 1024. 640 x 480, 800 x 600, and 1024 x 768 all offer a 1:1.33 > > > aspect ratio and that allows screens to get bigger without > > > distorting in size (since LCDs aren't as flexible as cathode > > > ray tubes in this regard). 1280 x 1024 however has a 1:1.25 > > > ratio and it looks, to my eyes, a little weird. I believe that > > > 1152 x 864 would have been a better choice and simpler, from a > > > technical standpoint. No, I didn't write that, but now I've lost track of who did. Here's what I *did* write: > > I think the question here is whether you get square pixels or not. In a > > typical 4:3 screen, 1280x960 would give square pixels. > > > > You certainly could build a 1280x1024 screen with square pixels. It would > > just have to be taller, 5:4 instead of 4:3. It will be interesting to see > > what this screen actually turns out to be. > From: Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] > > > FWIW, my 16inch IBM TFT Monitor is SXGA and the size is maybe 1mm more > than 10 inches tall and 1 mm more than 12.5 inches wide.. Now Mike back again... So they did get it right on the 16" monitor! They gave it the correct aspect ratio (5:4) to give you square pixels. This proves my point: there's nothing inherent in 1280x1024 that makes it a bad resolution to use. The only problem with 1280x1024 is that it typically gets crammed onto a 4:3 aspect ratio CRT, by squeezing it vertically. OTOH, you can build a display with square pixels at *any* resolution you want. You just have to make its aspect ratio match the resolution. To take an obvious example, you could have a display running at 1024x1024 resolution and still have square pixels. How? Duh--make it a square display. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 13:10:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA15615 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15106; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:06:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14864; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14845; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:06:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA19799; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:05:16 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Cc: Subject: RE: Lousy mouse buttons Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:05:15 -0700 Message-ID: <002c01bde194$2cc9bd30$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <35FF6129.33566DE8@icanect.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Actually, I was talking about mouse buttons only, not keyboard quality. (That's why I titled the message "Lousy mouse buttons"! ) Most of the bad mouse buttons I've had are on Lexmark keyboards. Heck, I've got *five* of the Lexmark desktop TrackPoint keyboards, and the buttons on every one of them went mushy and unreliable after much less than a year's use. The specific ThinkPad that led to the discussion was the 701C. It arrived with a mouse button that felt *exactly* like the bad buttons in my desktop keyboards. So I bet it's the same mechanism. (Does Lexmark make the 701C keyboards?) You're right regarding key feel. The 760E is only fair, while the 600 is outstanding. The 701C's old keyboard was pretty sticky, but the new one feels decent. Not nearly as good as the 600, but at least usable. And the left mouse button should give several months good use before it goes sour again. -Mike > From: Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] > Subject: Re: Lousy mouse buttons > > > Michael.. > If you are discussing the 760 series keyboards, i don't think they are > lexmark.. > lexmark did make the 750/755 series keyboards and THOSE are some of the > BEST..!! > > the 760 series keyboard is really poor for a number of reasons, one of > which is it wears out quickly.. the key mechanism, that is.. > the key landing is soft, rather than hard (like the 755 kbd) and the > tilt up mechanism makes the feel worse.. > > you can lock the keyboard in the lowered position and get the 'heft' of > the machine to back up the keyboard and you'll get a slightly better > feel.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 13:52:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA16366 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17893; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:47:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17697; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17674; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p10.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.79]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA24342; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809161745.KAA24342@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "John H. Kim" Date: Wed, 16 Sep 98 10:46:22 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:51:55 -0400 (EDT), John H. Kim wrote: >On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > >> Paul.. >> easeserve still exists and is under contract with IBM.. >> but it seems that they must get a fixed amount for each repair.. >> >> a few years ago, if you sent a machine in with a worn out trackpoint >> tip, it would be replaced.. >> crack in the case, free replacement.. >> >> NOW, they want to charge for such things.. > >Hmm, that explains it. I just sent my 701 for repair >(warranty expires in November). They wanted $320 to repair a >cracked lid case (I'd used $2 on epoxy to fix it, but the >epoxy gave way recently) and glue back the four rubber feet. >I asked how much for the rubber feet and he said $320 - >apparently they have a minimum price for repairs now. > $320 for rubber feet? Some warranty! Guess I'll end up buying someone's used or surplus 701... :( -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 13:54:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA16404 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:54:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17518; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:43:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17377; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-out-0.tiac.net (mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17274; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-out-4.tiac.net (mail-out-4.tiac.net [199.0.65.16]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04699 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:41:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: from ntmail.tiac.net (ntmail.doble.com [204.215.186.11]) by mail-out-4.tiac.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA23165 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:41:59 GMT (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: by ntmail.tiac.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BDE16B.647632A0@ntmail.tiac.net>; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:13:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: 3 Gig HD on a 365ED (long tale of misery and triumph) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:13:18 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: >Bill Morrow writes: >Eric.. >1. mounting holes are different on all drives over 1.4gigs.. the same >time the drive select pins were reversed they moved the mounting holes >closer to the corners.. Thanks for the info so it would be a problem with the 2 Gig drives. Actually I am lucky with the drive select pins as the 365 hd connector does not go near them. > >2. interesting gymnastics to get a hibernate partition.. i never used a >365... since they are/were mfg. by acer in taiwan they are different.. Well it looks like some of the problem is generic to using phdisk on several laptop lines. Unfortunately the version shipped is older than other versions. I wished you could disable the bios error about the partition. Now the problem I have is Boot Manager will not recognize my linux partition. I thinking it is due to it being near the end of the driver (over the 2 gig point). 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 14:00:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA16501 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18663; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:54:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:52:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18322; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18271; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:52:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p10.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.79]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA24518; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809161749.KAA24518@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "bfink" , "Bruce Markowitz" , "thinkpad" Date: Wed, 16 Sep 98 10:49:54 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:14:51 -0400, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >Why would anyone do that when EZSERVE is do damn good? > Or in my case, so damn BAD unless you pay them the thousands to fix it? I wonder why they charge so much - cigarettes and coffee for all the workers? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 14:01:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA16577 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17994; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:48:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17813; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:48:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17733; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p10.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.79]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA24288; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809161744.KAA24288@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , "Syclopse" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 16 Sep 98 10:45:22 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:53:59 -0400, Syclopse wrote: >>Paul.. >>a few years ago, if you sent a machine in with a worn out trackpoint >>tip, it would be replaced.. >>crack in the case, free replacement.. > > >Hmmm, must be what tech at EZ-SERV you get to work on your thinkpad. I sent >a 560 out last week for a HD replacement. The LCD had "wear" marks from the >mouse buttons and to my surprise EZ-SERV replaced the customers LCD. >Customer was very excited. > For me, they both times told me I had to pay for it. And the first time I sent it in, they sent it back in 3 pieces. I was totally upset, and fortunately, IBM paid the $3200 in repair costs (and they deserved it, too). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 14:04:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA16610 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18967; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:57:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:56:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18861; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18839; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p10.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.79]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA24648; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809161751.KAA24648@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , "Michael Geary" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 16 Sep 98 10:52:41 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Lousy mouse buttons List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:05:15 -0700, Michael Geary wrote: >Actually, I was talking about mouse buttons only, not keyboard quality. >(That's why I titled the message "Lousy mouse buttons"! ) > >Most of the bad mouse buttons I've had are on Lexmark keyboards. Heck, I've >got *five* of the Lexmark desktop TrackPoint keyboards, and the buttons on >every one of them went mushy and unreliable after much less than a year's >use. Which is sad, because the keyboard quality is top notch, but the mouse quality is apparently worse than your off-brand $5 mouse. > >The specific ThinkPad that led to the discussion was the 701C. It arrived >with a mouse button that felt *exactly* like the bad buttons in my desktop >keyboards. So I bet it's the same mechanism. (Does Lexmark make the 701C >keyboards?) > No, Keytronic does. I believe Lexmark makes it for the 355, 360, 750, and 755. The 350 I'm unsure until I get my machine in, and the 300 is probably made by Zenith. >You're right regarding key feel. The 760E is only fair, while the 600 is >outstanding. The 701C's old keyboard was pretty sticky, but the new one >feels decent. Not nearly as good as the 600, but at least usable. And the >left mouse button should give several months good use before it goes sour >again. > Unless they actually got it right this time... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 17:55:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA21051 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02257; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:44:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02070; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02048; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA06432; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:42:22 -1000 Message-ID: <00a001bde1ba$e751b420$b71a7e82@ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Syclopse" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:42:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >Hmmm, must be what tech at EZ-SERV you get to work on your thinkpad. I sent >a 560 out last week for a HD replacement. The LCD had "wear" marks from the >mouse buttons and to my surprise EZ-SERV replaced the customers LCD. There is a 'hidden recall' on these - a year or so ago someone on this list posted something about it. Apparently some 560 models (including my own) have too thin of a bezel to separate the screen from the buttons, and IBM is supposed to replace this bezel on any machine they encounter with the problem. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 19:07:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA22426 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05125; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:59:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05018; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rodney (rodney.concentric.net [207.155.252.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05006; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earlbrya (209-142-8-18.stk.inreach.net [209.142.8.18]) by rodney (8.9.1/) id SAA29058; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:59:08 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay] Message-ID: <199809162259.SAA29058@rodney> From: "Love and Jones Webmaster" Organization: Love and Jones Paralegal...The law is on yo To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:59:10 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Howdy...and a TP 755CD Question Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: I am the proud new owner of a 755CD-4ZF. Upgraded to 24mb mem/810mb HD, and the rest stock. Eiger Labs Ethernet card, all on Win95A. I wanted to know if there was some kind of published "matrix" to show what parts are interchangeable (both IBM and Non-IBM) with the Thinkpad series in general, or my 75x series in particular. For example, can I put a display bigger than the 10.4 inch one on my TP? Or are there other CD-ROM drive than the Teac CD64E 6x that fit my TP? I am sure many of you have been at this longer than I have, so any help would be appreciated. Hope to interact with you all again soon... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 21:38:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA25281 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11618; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:35:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:34:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11493; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:34:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (phr@netcom19.netcom.com [192.100.81.132]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11477; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom19.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id SAA06337 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:34:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199809170134.SAA06337@netcom19.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: paint peeling on 770! List-Unsubscribe: The paint is peeling on the palmrest area of my 770! Someone else on the list recently mentioned they were experiencing the same thing. So I just thought I'd say it's happening to me too. I've had my 770 only a few months, though I use it fairly heavily. A recurring problem with 770's??? I've never seen it with any other laptop. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 22:05:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA25755 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13143; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:02:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13029; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:02:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13016; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA07701; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:02:07 -1000 Message-ID: <002001bde1df$36daafa0$c11a7e82@ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Paul Khoury" , "Paul Rubin" , Subject: Re: paint peeling on 770! Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:02:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Paul wrote: >>The paint is peeling on the palmrest area of my 770! A different Paul wrote: >Well, the lettering is now coming off the keys of the keyboard of my 701. The lettering is screened on, and might well come off after lots of heavy use. (I think regular cleaning to remove hand oil can slow this down a bit.) The black paint layer on the plastic should *not* be coming off so soon, unless the machine is being used in a solvent-laden atmosphere. I would call IBM on this one! - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 22:08:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA25808 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:08:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13477; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:04:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13314; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13275; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thinkpad (p09.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.78]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA19174; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809170202.TAA19174@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "David Ross" Date: Wed, 16 Sep 98 19:06:26 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: paint peeling on 770! List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:02:10 -0500, David Ross wrote: >Paul wrote: > >>>The paint is peeling on the palmrest area of my 770! > >A different Paul wrote: > >>Well, the lettering is now coming off the keys of the keyboard of my 701. > > >The lettering is screened on, and might well come off after lots of heavy use. >(I think regular cleaning to remove hand oil can slow this down a bit.) The black paint layer on the plastic should *not* be coming >off so soon, unless the machine is being used in a solvent-laden atmosphere. I would call IBM on this one! > But like I said before, they might not replace it because the trackpoint isn't on the keyboard. Under normal use, it just cracked off... :( -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html (you can link to the TP Assistant from here) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3/4, DR-DOS/Novell Netware 7.02, and Sun Solaris 2.4 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 22:35:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA26412 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14942; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:29:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14779; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw2.njit.edu (mail-gw2.njit.edu [128.235.252.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14764; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from homer.njit.edu (homer.njit.edu [128.235.35.70]) by mail-gw2.njit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA25445; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:29:12 -0400 Received: from random.njit.edu by homer.njit.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA22477; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:29:53 -0400 Received: by random.njit.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA09047; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:20:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:20:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Marvin Nakayama To: Paul Rubin cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: paint peeling on 770! In-Reply-To: <199809170134.SAA06337@netcom19.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: The same thing is happening to my 770. Marvin On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Paul Rubin wrote: > The paint is peeling on the palmrest area of my 770! Someone else on > the list recently mentioned they were experiencing the same thing. So > I just thought I'd say it's happening to me too. I've had my 770 only > a few months, though I use it fairly heavily. A recurring problem > with 770's??? I've never seen it with any other laptop. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 22:39:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA26498 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:39:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15259; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:35:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15167; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:35:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15140; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA07860; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:35:24 -1000 Message-ID: <004101bde1e3$d553b2e0$c11a7e82@ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: paint peeling on 770! Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:35:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I wrote: > >The black paint layer on the plastic >>should *not* be coming >>off so soon, unless the machine is being used in a solvent-laden >>atmosphere. I would call IBM on this one! Paul K. said: >But like I said before, they might not replace it because the trackpoint isn't on the keyboard. My point was that IBM should replace the peeling paint on Paul R's 770. I would certainly *not* expect them to replace peeling key labels on an old 701! - David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 22:42:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA26542 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:42:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12177; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:44:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12059; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12047; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:44:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thinkpad (p09.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.78]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA18294; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809170141.SAA18294@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Paul Rubin" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 16 Sep 98 18:45:38 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: paint peeling on 770! List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:34:16 -0700 (PDT), Paul Rubin wrote: >The paint is peeling on the palmrest area of my 770! Someone else on >the list recently mentioned they were experiencing the same thing. So >I just thought I'd say it's happening to me too. I've had my 770 only >a few months, though I use it fairly heavily. A recurring problem >with 770's??? I've never seen it with any other laptop. > Well, the lettering is now coming off the keys of the keyboard of my 701. I guess that even with ThinkPads, we have to give up something, like reliable keyboards and such... :( -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html (you can link to the TP Assistant from here) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3/4, DR-DOS/Novell Netware 7.02, and Sun Solaris 2.4 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 23:14:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA27063 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16689; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:11:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16565; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:11:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16553; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:11:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hetherington.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA07737; Wed, 16 Sep 98 22:25:37 EDT Message-Id: <36007325.9FDAC0F7@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:25:41 -0400 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, Spoken Language Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Rubin Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: paint peeling on 770! References: <199809170134.SAA06337@netcom19.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I've seen it happen to a colleague's 600. About 4 square inches peeled off the palm rest. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 16 23:51:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA27694 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:51:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18471; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:49:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:48:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18260; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm04sm.pmm.mci.net (pm04sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.153]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18244; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcione.com (usr48-dialup22.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27036) with ESMTP id <0EZE00NNJT675Q@PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 03:46:57 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:48:57 -0500 From: Jim Schneider Subject: Re: 770E won't hibernate anymore To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <360086A9.64E19F49@mcione.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <000801bde05d$b099c610$0201a8c0@greasygirl> List-Unsubscribe: I wish it did, but it did not. This error screen also happens if I try to suspend, and that does not use the hibernation file does it ? David W. Taylor wrote: > Boot from Win85. Open the ThinkPad configuration application. Turn off the > hibernation ability. Save and exit. Restart. Open the ThinkPad > configuration application again. Turn on the hibernation ability and > designate Drive C:. Restart again. > > Try it. Bet it works! > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Schneider > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Date: Monday, September 14, 1998 8:56 PM > Subject: Re: 770E won't hibernate anymore > > >I have a Bootable OS/2 Partition at drive G:, and it hibernates from there > >just fine. That still uses the hibernation file on c: I thnk. > > > >David W. Taylor wrote: > > > >> Sounds like either the BIOS needs an update or your FAT partition > >> hibernation file is problematic. > >> > >> David > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Jim Schneider > >> To: David W. Taylor > >> Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 7:53 PM > >> Subject: Re: 770E won't hibernate anymore > >> > >> >Sorry, > >> > > >> >It's Windows 95, I'll boot to the OS/2 partition and try it there. > >> >Version 4.00.950 B with Plus added. > >> >ThinkPad 770E with the 5.1gb standard and an added 1.3gb in the > ultrabay. > >> >These > >> >were swapped the other way when I noticed the problem, but changing back > >> >did not help. > >> > > >> >64mb Ram, external mouse plugged in. 3Com X-Jack XJ-5560 modem. > >> > > >> > > >> >David W. Taylor wrote: > >> > > >> >> Come on, Jim. You'll need to do better than that. > >> >> > >> >> What Operating System: NT, 95, 98 or gawd help you, Linux or OS/2? > >> >> What version? > >> >> What configuration of machine? > >> >> > >> >> Give us some more to work on... > >> >> > >> >> David > >> >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: Jim Schneider > >> >> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > >> >> Date: Saturday, September 12, 1998 8:48 PM > >> >> Subject: 770E won't hibernate anymore > >> >> > >> >> >When I try to hibernate or suspend, now I get a blue error screen. It > >> >> >used to work. > >> >> >The message says : > >> >> > > >> >> >Invalid VxD dynamic link call from SSPCCRDX(03) +0001B1F to device > >> >> >"33A7", service 1. > >> >> >Your Windows configuration is invalid. Run the windows setup program > >> >> >again to > >> >> >correct this problem. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >What windows setup program? > >> >> >What do you choose when you get into it ? > >> >> > > >> >> >Thanks, Jim Schneider > >> > > >> > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 00:42:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA28593 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:42:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20696; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:39:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:38:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20575; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:38:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20543; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA03531 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:38:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:38:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: paint peeling on 770! In-Reply-To: <004101bde1e3$d553b2e0$c11a7e82@ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, David Ross wrote: > > My point was that IBM should replace the peeling paint on > Paul R's 770. I would certainly *not* expect them to > replace peeling key labels on an old 701! They used to fix stuff like this no questions asked. On my 750 the keyboard letters were coming off because of a design flaw so they replaced it. When the replacement letters (which stayed on better) were wearing off after almost three years, I sent it in again and they replaced the keyboard again. The M and C letters on my 701's keys are half gone. The won't replace the keyboard. :-( Whether the computer is old or not shouldn't matter if it is still under warranty, other than normal wear and tear. I've never had lettering come off of desktop keyboards, so I certainly don't consider lettering coming off a laptop keyboard normal wear and tear. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 00:59:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA28831 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21777; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:57:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21690; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:57:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21651; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:55:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (164.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.164]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id AAA27510; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360096DB.5F91F6DC@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:58:03 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Geary CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Lousy mouse buttons References: <002c01bde194$2cc9bd30$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Michael.. Michael Geary wrote: > > Actually, I was talking about mouse buttons only, not keyboard quality. > (That's why I titled the message "Lousy mouse buttons"! ) okok, off topic.. :-) > > Most of the bad mouse buttons I've had are on Lexmark keyboards. Heck, I've > got *five* of the Lexmark desktop TrackPoint keyboards, and the buttons on > every one of them went mushy and unreliable after much less than a year's > use. gee.. i use one of those overpriced little white keyboards.. made by lexmark.. but it has been working fine for at lease a year, however i was using a mouse rather than the trackpoint.. > > The specific ThinkPad that led to the discussion was the 701C. It arrived > with a mouse button that felt *exactly* like the bad buttons in my desktop > keyboards. So I bet it's the same mechanism. (Does Lexmark make the 701C > keyboards?) interestingly, the membrane under the 701 keys appears to be replaceable.. > > You're right regarding key feel. The 760E is only fair, while the 600 is > outstanding. The 701C's old keyboard was pretty sticky, but the new one > feels decent. Not nearly as good as the 600, but at least usable. And the > left mouse button should give several months good use before it goes sour > again. > the 760 keyboard is cheap.. something like $50 for a new one from IBM.. > -Mike > > > From: Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] > > Subject: Re: Lousy mouse buttons > > > > > > Michael.. > > If you are discussing the 760 series keyboards, i don't think they are > > lexmark.. > > lexmark did make the 750/755 series keyboards and THOSE are some of the > > BEST..!! > > > > the 760 series keyboard is really poor for a number of reasons, one of > > which is it wears out quickly.. the key mechanism, that is.. > > the key landing is soft, rather than hard (like the 755 kbd) and the > > tilt up mechanism makes the feel worse.. > > > > you can lock the keyboard in the lowered position and get the 'heft' of > > the machine to back up the keyboard and you'll get a slightly better > > feel.. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 01:01:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA28844 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21431; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:51:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21264; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21252; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:51:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (164.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.164]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id AAA26735; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360095CE.2CDCEB10@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:53:34 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Geary CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Wake up! SXGA display References: <002b01bde193$89a8dff0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Mike.. Actually, this IBM 16inch display is wonderful.. when the logitech scrollpoint mouse drivers destroyed my video driver os some such thing, the VGA mode filled most, if not all, of the display.. and it looked good.. but then SXGA is twice VGA.. no..?? :-) so i can finally view Stephen Hawkings Life in the Universe full screen.. :-)) Michael Geary wrote: > > > Michael Geary wrote: > > > > > > > While I'm glad to see higher resolution, I'm somewhat > > > > surprised that IBM (supposedly) chose to go with 1280 x > > > > 1024. 640 x 480, 800 x 600, and 1024 x 768 all offer a 1:1.33 > > > > aspect ratio and that allows screens to get bigger without > > > > distorting in size (since LCDs aren't as flexible as cathode > > > > ray tubes in this regard). 1280 x 1024 however has a 1:1.25 > > > > ratio and it looks, to my eyes, a little weird. I believe that > > > > 1152 x 864 would have been a better choice and simpler, from a > > > > technical standpoint. > > No, I didn't write that, but now I've lost track of who did. > > Here's what I *did* write: > > > > I think the question here is whether you get square pixels or not. In a > > > typical 4:3 screen, 1280x960 would give square pixels. > > > > > > You certainly could build a 1280x1024 screen with square pixels. It > would > > > just have to be taller, 5:4 instead of 4:3. It will be interesting to > see > > > what this screen actually turns out to be. > > > From: Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] > > > > > > FWIW, my 16inch IBM TFT Monitor is SXGA and the size is maybe 1mm more > > than 10 inches tall and 1 mm more than 12.5 inches wide.. > > Now Mike back again... > > So they did get it right on the 16" monitor! They gave it the correct aspect > ratio (5:4) to give you square pixels. > > This proves my point: there's nothing inherent in 1280x1024 that makes it a > bad resolution to use. The only problem with 1280x1024 is that it typically > gets crammed onto a 4:3 aspect ratio CRT, by squeezing it vertically. > > OTOH, you can build a display with square pixels at *any* resolution you > want. You just have to make its aspect ratio match the resolution. To take > an obvious example, you could have a display running at 1024x1024 resolution > and still have square pixels. How? Duh--make it a square display. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 01:06:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA28962 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22224; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:03:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22106; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22094; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (164.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.164]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA28836; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:03:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360098A8.F6AB6F5F@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:05:44 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John H. Kim" CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: John.. when i sent a used 770-1AU in to have the keyboard bezel replaced (the paint was peeling) they gave me a hassel.. finally, it was replaced with no further complaint.. (i THINK an IBM friend pushed them a bit).. the peeling paint seems to be a relatively common problem.. at this time, i started a thread on my thinkpads.com open forum about how ez serve would react.. got some interesting comments.. please feel free to add your tale of 701-woe to it.. or start a new version.. the feet thing is common.. the last time i sent a 701 in, the comment was we have no feet, sorry.. i let it slide and just use little stick on rubber feet i got at a bankruptcy auction in silicon valley 15+ years ago.. they work fine, and when one falls off, i just get a new one from the box.. :-) John H. Kim wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > > Paul.. > > easeserve still exists and is under contract with IBM.. > > but it seems that they must get a fixed amount for each repair.. > > > > a few years ago, if you sent a machine in with a worn out trackpoint > > tip, it would be replaced.. > > crack in the case, free replacement.. > > > > NOW, they want to charge for such things.. > > Hmm, that explains it. I just sent my 701 for repair > (warranty expires in November). They wanted $320 to repair a > cracked lid case (I'd used $2 on epoxy to fix it, but the > epoxy gave way recently) and glue back the four rubber feet. > I asked how much for the rubber feet and he said $320 - > apparently they have a minimum price for repairs now. > > -- > John H. Kim > kim@stormhaven.org -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 01:12:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA29036 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22748; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:09:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22620; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22605; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (164.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.164]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA00116; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36009A08.490007BE@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:11:36 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thorsten Jaekel CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 600 screen References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The HPA display is SUPPOSED to be better than the older DSTN, but I have never seen these new HPA displays.. if the machine is only for work, and you have good eyes and do not intend to use it in a high ambient light area then HPA should be OK.. Thorsten Jaekel wrote: > > Hi there, > > were you guys discussing the 13.3' TFT screnn or the 13' HPA?? > Anyone have comments on the TP 600 13' HPA? > I am going to buy a TP 600 soon, and since the (German) price for the TFT > models is outrageous I was gona go with the HPA (I don't play games or use > graphics-intensive real color applications, mostly just office stuff - not > MS office that is). > Please no general comments about DSTN/TFT issues, just the TP 600 13' HPA! > > Thanks, Thorsten -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 01:18:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA29190 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:18:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23128; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:16:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23023; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:16:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23009; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (164.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.164]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA00977; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:14:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36009B45.28102DA0@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:16:53 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Love and Jones Webmaster CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Howdy...and a TP 755CD Question References: <199809162259.SAA29058@rodney> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Very little non IBM stuff will work with a 755CD.. PCMCIA and non-IBM thinkpad options excepted.. there is no upgrade to a larger display for the 755CD.. 10.4 inches is IT.. the CD/Floppy bay are not intended to support anything other than the CD or Floppy, BUT, there was one user who said he had a second HDD working there.. (do NOT try this at home, this test was done on a closed road with a professional driver..) Love and Jones Webmaster wrote: > > I am the proud new owner of a 755CD-4ZF. Upgraded to 24mb > mem/810mb HD, and the rest stock. Eiger Labs Ethernet card, all on > Win95A. > > I wanted to know if there was some kind of published "matrix" to show > what parts are interchangeable (both IBM and Non-IBM) with the > Thinkpad series in general, or my 75x series in particular. For > example, can I put a display bigger than the 10.4 inch one on my TP? > Or are there other CD-ROM drive than the Teac CD64E 6x that fit my > TP? I am sure many of you have been at this longer than I have, so > any help would be appreciated. > > Hope to interact with you all again soon... -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 01:35:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA29469 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23785; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:33:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23705; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23693; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (164.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.164]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA03738; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36009F53.2CA5F5A6@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:34:11 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Cottrell, Eric" CC: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: 3 Gig HD on a 365ED (long tale of misery and triumph) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Eric.. forget the holes if you plan to leave the drive in the machine.. use some double side tape.. should work fine.. these HDD's are NOT the old CDC Hawk or Phoenix HDD's.. i have no help for you with phdisk.. don't have a 365 to experiment with.. Cottrell, Eric wrote: > > >Bill Morrow writes: > >Eric.. > >1. mounting holes are different on all drives over 1.4gigs.. the same > >time the drive select pins were reversed they moved the mounting holes > >closer to the corners.. > > Thanks for the info so it would be a problem with the 2 Gig drives. > Actually I am lucky with the drive select pins as the 365 hd connector > does not go near them. > > > >2. interesting gymnastics to get a hibernate partition.. i never used a > >365... since they are/were mfg. by acer in taiwan they are different.. > > Well it looks like some of the problem is generic to using phdisk on > several laptop lines. Unfortunately the version shipped is older than > other versions. I wished you could disable the bios error about > the partition. > > Now the problem I have is Boot Manager will not recognize my > linux partition. I thinking it is due to it being near the end of > the driver (over the 2 gig point). > > 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 01:51:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA29691 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23983; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:34:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23867; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23827; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:34:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (164.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.164]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA04074; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:34:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36009FCF.A4F6D605@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:36:15 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: Syclopse , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area References: <199809161744.KAA24288@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: NOTE: these wear marks from the trackpoint tip are a well known problem.. they CAN occur on other machines as well, so when replacing the trackpoint tip be sure it is pushed all the way down on the trackpoint post.. :-) Paul Khoury wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:53:59 -0400, Syclopse wrote: > > >>Paul.. > >>a few years ago, if you sent a machine in with a worn out trackpoint > >>tip, it would be replaced.. > >>crack in the case, free replacement.. > > > > > >Hmmm, must be what tech at EZ-SERV you get to work on your thinkpad. I sent > >a 560 out last week for a HD replacement. The LCD had "wear" marks from the > >mouse buttons and to my surprise EZ-SERV replaced the customers LCD. > >Customer was very excited. > > > > For me, they both times told me I had to pay for it. And the first time I sent it in, they sent it back in 3 pieces. > I was totally upset, and fortunately, IBM paid the $3200 in repair costs (and they deserved it, too). > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 01:56:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA29759 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24442; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:38:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:38:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24329; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24314; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (164.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.164]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA04719; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3600A0C4.489F9951@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:40:20 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Ross CC: Paul Khoury , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: paint peeling on 770! References: <004101bde1e3$d553b2e0$c11a7e82@ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The peeling paint on the 770 palm rest/keyboard bezel is a known problem.. there should be little argument, and if there IS, refer ex serve to IBM as there are more than a few similar problems.. a complaint on my open forum will be seen by IBM is due course and MIGHT get some response.. or at least a call to ezserve to fix the thing.. :-) David Ross wrote: > > I wrote: > > > >The black paint layer on the plastic > >>should *not* be coming > >>off so soon, unless the machine is being used in a solvent-laden >>atmosphere. I would call IBM on this one! > > Paul K. said: > >But like I said before, they might not replace it because the trackpoint isn't on the keyboard. > > My point was that IBM should replace the peeling paint on Paul R's 770. I would certainly *not* expect them to replace peeling key > labels on an old 701! > > - David -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 02:08:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA00194 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25417; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:58:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25339; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25327; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (164.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.164]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA07477; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3600A554.662281D9@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:59:48 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Turgut Kalfaoglu CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , Dominique Pivard Subject: Re: TP600: GSM References: <199809101832.WAA19835@home.egenet.com.tr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Turgut.. this might not answer your question, but.. a good friend in singapore uses a nokia GSM cell phone and a nokia pcmcia modem on his thinkpad 765D, all OVER the world, with great success.. i have gotten e-mails sent from airports all over.. :-) if you want, i'll get the model #'s, etc. Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:36:14 +0300, Dominique Pivard wrote: > >On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 at 10:31 AM you, "turgut kalfaoglu" > >, said: > >>Hi - can someone recommend a GSM interface card for a Thinkpad 600? > >You didn't say what phone you had. GSM interface cards tend to be > > I'm sorry - I realised it afterwards. My phone is a Panasonic G500. > I hear there is an "Option International" brand/model for about $260, > including shipping. Anyone have any experience with those? > > Yes, working with OS/2 is a must for me too.. > Thanks, -turgut > > - --------- > Turgut Kalfaoglu > EgeNet http://www.egenet.com.tr > BBS-TURK http://bbsturk.bbs.tr > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBNfhhZjJjYwErN0xZAQHh5QQAh4IyPcU6/2EEnDkW/Hi2ZkT33ZWfVXwn > ne8ZnON8wxfsnfTnWXDF6oXDvoIz/U+Eqs7Lj8GmLEBiQblCmtTnMQoH537JnUrb > tYSgGAHcDXZ/RCEoDs4r9Xwz6jmqc5lODb/JAoZ6/cVk8f8G2LtHt2I4onXAzZwL > VVZiXEzroAU= > =DUwD > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 02:11:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA00222 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25159; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:53:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25042; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25029; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:53:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (164.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.164]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA06886 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:53:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3600A46D.60B551BD@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:55:57 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: a bit of news..? and an advert. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: 1. the 770X will come in several flavors.. a. 13.7inch TFT will be the new technology, SXGA b. the 14.1 will still be the old XGA we all know and love.. 2. Memory prices seem ready to firm up and go up.. 3. I have abunch of true blue IBM 4x thinkpad internal CD's.. $24 each.. (mention that you saw the ad on the list and i'll pay the $3 postage in the USA) If i have stepped on any toes with this post, please let me know and it won't occur again.. :-) -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 02:18:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA00321 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26328; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:16:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26188; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:16:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26171; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user (ppp34.net21.binghamton.edu [128.226.21.34]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA16706 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:16:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809170616.CAA16706@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:16:06 -0400 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TP770ED] Haven't gotten Infrared port to work Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I haven't yet had any success getting the infrared port to work on my 770ED, under Windows 95 OSR/2. I have it enabled in the Thinkpad Configuration program. Under Device Manager, "Infrared -> Built-in Infrared port on laptop or desktop" is there and OK. "Ports -> Built-in Infrared port on laptop (COM1)" and "Infrared Printing (LPT)" and "Infrared Serial (COM)" are enabled, and the normal COM1 and LPT1 are disabled. I run the Infrared control panel, and it sits there and polls every three seconds looking for another machine, and can't find one. Admittedly, so far I've only tried communicating with other devices that I also haven't confirmed the state of the infrared port of. In both cases, it was someone else's laptop, running Windows 95. Is there an obvious problem here? Am I supposed to turn something off, or reconfigure something? Thanks for any insight. Ken kenzo@free-music.com http://free-music.com/ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 04:18:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA01619 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 04:18:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01551; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 04:15:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 04:15:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01446; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 04:15:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucy.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01433; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 04:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anna.az.com (anna.az.com [204.57.139.9]) by lucy.az.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA22935; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:14:56 -0700 (PDT) From: LightSide To: "Cottrell, Eric" cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: 3 Gig HD on a 365ED (long tale of misery and triumph) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Cottrell, Eric wrote: > >Bill Morrow writes: > >Eric.. > >1. mounting holes are different on all drives over 1.4gigs.. the same > >time the drive select pins were reversed they moved the mounting holes > >closer to the corners.. True. But you can get drives >1.4gig with the mounting holes in the center not at the ends. I got a Toshiba 2.1gig HD for my 365XD with the holes in the center. The drive works great. Robert *No Sig* From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 06:50:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA03403 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 06:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12005; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 06:48:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 06:47:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA11906; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 06:47:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from glacier.binc.net (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA11894; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 06:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rkarp (msn-1-49.x2.binc.net [198.70.31.49]) by glacier.binc.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id FAA21262; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 05:47:31 -0500 Message-ID: <000401bde228$92ff0e40$311f46c6@rkarp> From: "Robert J. Karp" To: "Thinkpad" , "Ken" Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Haven't gotten Infrared port to work Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 05:47:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: This is extremely difficult to do -- it requires some fairly extensive fiddling around with Win95 and editing of two INF files. I once wrote detailed instructions on how to enable IR under OSR2 but as I am now running 98 I no longer have them. I can't recall if I posted them or only e-mailed them to someone but you can search Deja News and see if you can find anything. If it helps you at all ... you don't want the device detected under Infrared, it must be detected only under Ports. The two INF files you have to edit are Infrared.inf and Msports.inf. The device ID for the IR device is PnP0511. You want that under Msports.inf but not Infrared.inf. Right now you have the reverse. I realize this isn't enough for you to go on unless you're an experienced fiddler of sorts. The best I can do is to offer to have you call me and I'd be willing to work through it with you step by step. ((608) 231-6412 8:00a - 4:00p CDT). -----Original Message----- From: Ken To: Thinkpad Date: Thursday, September 17, 1998 1:16 AM Subject: [TP770ED] Haven't gotten Infrared port to work >I haven't yet had any success getting the infrared port to work on my >770ED, under Windows 95 OSR/2. > >I have it enabled in the Thinkpad Configuration program. Under Device >Manager, "Infrared -> Built-in Infrared port on laptop or desktop" is there >and OK. "Ports -> Built-in Infrared port on laptop (COM1)" and "Infrared >Printing (LPT)" and "Infrared Serial (COM)" are enabled, and the normal >COM1 and LPT1 are disabled. > >I run the Infrared control panel, and it sits there and polls every three >seconds looking for another machine, and can't find one. > >Admittedly, so far I've only tried communicating with other devices that I >also haven't confirmed the state of the infrared port of. In both cases, >it was someone else's laptop, running Windows 95. > >Is there an obvious problem here? Am I supposed to turn something off, or >reconfigure something? > >Thanks for any insight. > >Ken > kenzo@free-music.com > http://free-music.com/ken > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 07:17:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA03632 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12903; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:12:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12712; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:12:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12700; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 770 (user-38ld2hs.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.138.60]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA03908 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:12:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad list" Subject: RE: paint peeling on 770! Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:10:41 -0400 Message-ID: <000401bde22b$ce79c5c0$068a56d1@770> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3600A0C4.489F9951@icanect.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I'm on my second keyboard bezel with peeling paint. The second time is actually worse than the first. I reported it to IBM a couple of months ago, but because I use this machine daily I have not sent it back for repair. The first time I sent it in it took a few extra days while I chased down various people to get bezel replaced on warranty. It was a big pain in the ...! For the time being I have place a small sticker over the peeling area. I will not say here what the sticker says, but it does somewhat represent my feelings about this problem. -Bill Armstrong TP770 (9549-1AU) w/ 96mb RAM, 5.1gb HD and DVD drive -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 1998 1:40 AM To: David Ross Cc: Paul Khoury; ThinkPad List Subject: Re: paint peeling on 770! The peeling paint on the 770 palm rest/keyboard bezel is a known problem.. there should be little argument, and if there IS, refer ex serve to IBM as there are more than a few similar problems.. a complaint on my open forum will be seen by IBM is due course and MIGHT get some response.. or at least a call to ezserve to fix the thing.. :-) David Ross wrote: > > I wrote: > > > >The black paint layer on the plastic > >>should *not* be coming > >>off so soon, unless the machine is being used in a solvent-laden >>atmosphere. I would call IBM on this one! > > Paul K. said: > >But like I said before, they might not replace it because the trackpoint isn't on the keyboard. > > My point was that IBM should replace the peeling paint on Paul R's 770. I would certainly *not* expect them to replace peeling key > labels on an old 701! > > - David -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 08:14:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA04230 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:14:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14866; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:12:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:08:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14643; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:08:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argos.sae.gr (argos.sae.gr [194.219.29.77]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14617; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:08:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laertis (laertis.sae.gr [194.219.29.69]) by argos.sae.gr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA27635 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:08:02 +0300 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980917150613.00a06690@argos.sae.gr> X-Sender: gmich@argos.sae.gr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:06:15 +0300 To: "ThinkPad list" From: "George A. Michalopoulos" Subject: URGENT: help wanted Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: hello all, i have a Thinkpad 760 ED running windows 98.=20 Today, while i was booting, the screen with the IBM logo didnt came up! when i boot, i see: 032384 173 163, two beeps and a garbled screen !!!!! i tried to pull out the memory expansion board, to change disks, nothing... does anybody knows what these error codes mean ? (173, 163) thank you in advance, George A. Michalopoulos =D3=F5=EC=E2=EF=FD=EB=E9=EF =C1=F0=EF=E4=DE=EC=EF=F5 =C5=EB=EB=E7=ED=E9=F3= =EC=EF=FD http://www.sae.gr From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 09:07:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA04879 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18886; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:05:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:04:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18776; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from glacier.binc.net (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18762; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:04:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rkarp (msn-8-5.binc.net [205.173.178.132]) by glacier.binc.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA05498; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:03:56 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01bde23b$9fc3d080$84b2adcd@rkarp.humana.com> Reply-To: "Robert J. Karp" From: "Robert J. Karp" To: Cc: "ThinkPad Users Group" Subject: [TP770E/ED] Infrared Under OSR2 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:03:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Well, I did the best I could reconstructing the procedure I developed and followed to get Infrared working under OSR2 on my 770E. Understand, I am not running Win95 any longer (using Win98) and had to do this entirely from memory. It is offered to you in good faith but I cannot possibly swear to its 100% accuracy. I can assure you I was able to get Infrared working on my 770E under OSR2 and I can equally assure you there is no way to do so without the kind of modifications I am about to decsribe. 1. Backup your existing Infrared.inf and Msports.inf files. 2. Place these INF files in your \Windows\Inf folder (these are included as an attachment only to the original poster). 3. Delete the files Drvdata.bin and Drvidx.bin from your \Windows\Inf folder. 4. Remove the existing Infrared device under the Infrared class, using Device Manager. 5. Remove the existing Infrared device under the Ports class, using Device Manager. 6. Reboot. 7. Windows should indicate New Hardware found. Windows should detect your Infrared device and install it under Ports. When finished, go to Device Manager and verify the Infrared Device appears under Ports. It should be assigned to COM1. Check its properties. Ensure there is a DMA channel assigned to the device. Usually it is DMA3. 8. Go to the Add New Hardware wizard under Control Panel. 9. Don't let Windows search for new hardware. Find the Infrared class and select it. Click Next. In the left-hand pane select "(Standard infrared devices)" and in the right-hand pane "Built-in Infrared port on laptop or desktop". Choose the defaults from there and let Windows finish installing the new hardware. That's it. You should be all set from there. Remember, to acually use Infrared for anything you need to be sure you're using the correct ports. Usually that's COM4 or LPT3. -----Original Message----- From: Ken To: Thinkpad Date: Thursday, September 17, 1998 1:16 AM Subject: [TP770ED] Haven't gotten Infrared port to work >I haven't yet had any success getting the infrared port to work on my >770ED, under Windows 95 OSR/2. > >I have it enabled in the Thinkpad Configuration program. Under Device >Manager, "Infrared -> Built-in Infrared port on laptop or desktop" is there >and OK. "Ports -> Built-in Infrared port on laptop (COM1)" and "Infrared >Printing (LPT)" and "Infrared Serial (COM)" are enabled, and the normal >COM1 and LPT1 are disabled. > >I run the Infrared control panel, and it sits there and polls every three >seconds looking for another machine, and can't find one. > >Admittedly, so far I've only tried communicating with other devices that I >also haven't confirmed the state of the infrared port of. In both cases, >it was someone else's laptop, running Windows 95. > >Is there an obvious problem here? Am I supposed to turn something off, or >reconfigure something? > >Thanks for any insight. > >Ken > kenzo@free-music.com > http://free-music.com/ken > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 09:54:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA05511 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21345; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:49:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21105; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (kglp@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21092; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kglp@localhost) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA23394; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:48:49 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:48:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Ray Bayles To: "George A. Michalopoulos" cc: ThinkPad list Subject: Re: URGENT: help wanted In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980917150613.00a06690@argos.sae.gr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE List-Unsubscribe: Do you know how to access the test screens? Getting=20 the info is detailed in the manual. If you do not have it let me know. There are ways to test and repair the machine (Sometimes) Do not despair (Yet) There are ways to test the 760ED with key combinations >from the keyboard... and sometimes the routines created will repair the problem... or at least give you enough into to help you decide where to send it for repair. Ray On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, George A. Michalopoulos wrote: > hello all, >=20 > i have a Thinkpad 760 ED running windows 98.=20 > Today, while i was booting, the screen with the IBM logo didnt came up! > when i boot, i see: > 032384 > 173 > 163, two beeps > and a garbled screen !!!!! >=20 > i tried to pull out the memory expansion board, to change disks, nothing.= =2E. > does anybody knows what these error codes mean ? (173, 163) >=20 > thank you in advance, >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > George A. Michalopoulos >=20 > =D3=F5=EC=E2=EF=FD=EB=E9=EF =C1=F0=EF=E4=DE=EC=EF=F5 =C5=EB=EB=E7=ED=E9= =F3=EC=EF=FD > http://www.sae.gr >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 09:58:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA05542 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:58:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21686; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:55:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21592; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:55:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.hd.ibm.de (firewall.hd.ibm.de [192.101.197.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21576; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:55:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com by firewall.hd.ibm.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03/TWS 4.03.3-cherub) id AA116746; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:48:17 +0200 Received: from pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com [9.228.3.110]) by mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.4-mailserver) with ESMTP id PAA34778 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:54:09 +0200 (MSZ) Received: (from krumeich@localhost) by pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.2-pool) id PAA53498; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:54:07 +0200 (MSZ) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:54:07 +0200 (MSZ) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de To: ThinkPad List Subject: TP600: 3Com Card Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, my girl friend needs to buy an Ethernet card for her TP600 with Win95. The people at the organisation she is currently staying at recommended the 3Com Fast Etherlink XL 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card, Model 3C547-TX. Does anybody here have experiences with that card? I recall that people were talking about CardBus and CardWizard issues. Any problems to be expected on that side? Please send a personal cc: to my address. TIA, Alexander -- Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 10:00:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA05571 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21889; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:57:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:56:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21791; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ecom.net ([207.155.73.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21778; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:56:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lou (c6ppp253.ecom.net [207.155.74.253]) by amber.ecom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA19547 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 06:56:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louw@prefer.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980917063258.00a9d220@ecom.net> X-Sender: louw@ecom.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 06:32:58 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area In-Reply-To: <003b01bde118$0dbe9360$a3197e82@ward-henson.math.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:16 PM 9/15/98 -0500, you wrote: >I don't know if or why IBM is starting to push for using local service, and I don't know why the laptop company with the best >mail-in service has contracted with such lame local companies. Saves them money, too bad if the user is inconvenienced? They are just joing the parade. Why did thousands of people buy Iomega products even with the problems they were having. Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 10:18:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA05814 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23164; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:13:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23037; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22993; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id HAA16750; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:08:39 -0700 Received: from dug.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id KAA02649; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:08:31 -0400 Received: (from cjj@localhost) by dug.East.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.8.8_cjj) id KAA20113; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:08:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Jackson - High End Server Systems Message-Id: <199809171408.KAA20113@dug.East.Sun.COM> To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de Subject: Re: TP600: 3Com Card Cc: ThinkPad List thinkpad@cs.utk.edu List-Unsubscribe: I just got a "3Com Megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card", model 3CXFE575BT, for my TP600. From looking at 3Com's website, I suspect this may be the same card you're talking about with a different name (it looks like all of their PC cards are now going to be sold under the 3Com Megahertz brand). Anyway, my card appears to work fine under Win95; just follow the provided instructions when installing the drivers. I had no problems with the CardWizard stuff. > Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:54:07 +0200 (MSZ) > From: Alexander Krumeich > To: ThinkPad List > Subject: TP600: 3Com Card > > Hi, > > my girl friend needs to buy an Ethernet card for her TP600 with Win95. > The people at the organisation she is currently staying at recommended > the 3Com Fast Etherlink XL 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card, Model 3C547-TX. > > Does anybody here have experiences with that card? I recall that people > were talking about CardBus and CardWizard issues. Any problems to be > expected on that side? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 10:20:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA05842 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:20:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23531; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:17:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23351; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:17:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23337; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id HAA17623; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:12:18 -0700 Received: from dug.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id KAA03555; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:12:13 -0400 Received: (from cjj@localhost) by dug.East.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.8.8_cjj) id KAA20145; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:12:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Jackson - High End Server Systems Message-Id: <199809171412.KAA20145@dug.East.Sun.COM> To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de Subject: Re: TP600: 3Com Card Cc: ThinkPad List thinkpad@cs.utk.edu List-Unsubscribe: I just got a "3Com Megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card", model 3CXFE575BT, for my TP600. From looking at 3Com's website, I suspect this may be the same card you're talking about with a different name (it looks like all of their PC cards are now going to be sold under the 3Com Megahertz brand). Anyway, my card appears to work fine under Win95; just follow the provided instructions when installing the drivers. I had no problems with the CardWizard stuff. > Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:54:07 +0200 (MSZ) > From: Alexander Krumeich > To: ThinkPad List > Subject: TP600: 3Com Card > > Hi, > > my girl friend needs to buy an Ethernet card for her TP600 with Win95. > The people at the organisation she is currently staying at recommended > the 3Com Fast Etherlink XL 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card, Model 3C547-TX. > > Does anybody here have experiences with that card? I recall that people > were talking about CardBus and CardWizard issues. Any problems to be > expected on that side? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 10:21:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA05910 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23782; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:19:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:17:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23544; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:17:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23481; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:17:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id HAA17740; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:12:59 -0700 Received: from dug.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id KAA03733; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:12:57 -0400 Received: (from cjj@localhost) by dug.East.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.8.8_cjj) id KAA20149; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:12:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Jackson - High End Server Systems Message-Id: <199809171412.KAA20149@dug.East.Sun.COM> To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de Subject: Re: TP600: 3Com Card Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu List-Unsubscribe: I just got a "3Com Megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card", model 3CXFE575BT, for my TP600. From looking at 3Com's website, I suspect this may be the same card you're talking about with a different name (it looks like all of their PC cards are now going to be sold under the 3Com Megahertz brand). Anyway, my card appears to work fine under Win95; just follow the provided instructions when installing the drivers. I had no problems with the CardWizard stuff. > Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:54:07 +0200 (MSZ) > From: Alexander Krumeich > To: ThinkPad List > Subject: TP600: 3Com Card > > Hi, > > my girl friend needs to buy an Ethernet card for her TP600 with Win95. > The people at the organisation she is currently staying at recommended > the 3Com Fast Etherlink XL 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card, Model 3C547-TX. > > Does anybody here have experiences with that card? I recall that people > were talking about CardBus and CardWizard issues. Any problems to be > expected on that side? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 10:34:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA06061 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:34:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24705; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:31:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24541; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.hq.tis.com (relay.hq.tis.com [192.94.214.100]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24528; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay.hq.tis.com; id KAA17523; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from clipper.hq.tis.com(10.33.1.2) by relay.hq.tis.com via smap (4.0a) id xma017506; Thu, 17 Sep 98 10:25:15 -0400 Received: from sweet.la.tis.com (sweet.la.tis.com [192.5.49.171]) by clipper.hq.tis.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18610; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sweet.la.tis.com (localhost.la.tis.com [127.0.0.1]) by sweet.la.tis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA15231; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:23:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rogerk@sweet.la.tis.com) Message-Id: <199809171423.HAA15231@sweet.la.tis.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 References: <199809171412.KAA20149@dug.East.Sun.COM> In-reply-to: <199809171412.KAA20149@dug.East.Sun.COM> (Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:12:51 EDT) To: Christopher Jackson - High End Server Systems Cc: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600: 3Com Card Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:23:20 -0700 From: Roger Knobbe List-Unsubscribe: > I just got a "3Com Megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card", model 3CXFE575BT, > for my TP600. From looking at 3Com's website, I suspect this may be the same > card you're talking about with a different name (it looks like all of their > PC cards are now going to be sold under the 3Com Megahertz brand). Anyway, > my card appears to work fine under Win95; just follow the provided > instructions when installing the drivers. I had no problems with the > CardWizard stuff. Be aware that this card is not supported yet under Linux, if that is of any concern to you. rog. "I know because I have one" From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 11:00:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA06465 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26482; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:58:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:56:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26196; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:56:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26169; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA09605; Thu, 17 Sep 98 10:53:45 EDT Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <36012279.F989F7DB@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:53:45 -0400 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Jackson - High End Server Systems Cc: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de, "ThinkPad List thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP600: 3Com Card References: <199809171408.KAA20113@dug.East.Sun.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Note that the 3CXFE575BT does not seem to be supported in Linux yet (if that is at all a concern). I've tried without luck. --Lee From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 11:02:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA06495 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26506; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:58:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:56:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26117; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argos.sae.gr (argos.sae.gr [194.219.29.77]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26091; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laertis (laertis.sae.gr [194.219.29.69]) by argos.sae.gr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA28296; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:55:32 +0300 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980917175343.009fdbf0@argos.sae.gr> X-Sender: gmich@argos.sae.gr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:53:44 +0300 To: Ray Bayles From: "George A. Michalopoulos" Subject: Re: URGENT: help wanted Cc: ThinkPad list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: At 07:48 =F0=EC 17/9/1998 -0600, Ray Bayles wrote: >Do you know how to access the test screens? Getting=20 >the info is detailed in the manual. If you do not >have it let me know. There are ways to test and >repair the machine (Sometimes) Do not despair (Yet) >There are ways to test the 760ED with key combinations >from the keyboard... and sometimes the routines >created will repair the problem... or at least give >you enough into to help you decide where to send it >for repair. i found that error code 173 is: 173 (Configuration data was lost.) an the FRU / Action in Sequence 1. Reseat the keyboard connector on the video card. 2. Select OK in the error screen; then set the time and date. 3. Backup battery 4. System board =20 keyboard connector is well seated, but if i press the F1 key and turn on the thinkpad, i still get the memory and error code messages, and the screen gets garbled.... =20 isnt it crazy? last night i shutted it down normally.... =20 George A. Michalopoulos =D3=F5=EC=E2=EF=FD=EB=E9=EF =C1=F0=EF=E4=DE=EC=EF=F5 =C5=EB=EB=E7=ED=E9=F3= =EC=EF=FD http://www.sae.gr From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 11:59:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07380 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00266; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:56:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:54:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29992; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:54:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argos.sae.gr (argos.sae.gr [194.219.29.77]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29960; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laertis (laertis.sae.gr [194.219.29.69]) by argos.sae.gr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA28565; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:54:16 +0300 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980917185226.00adb100@argos.sae.gr> X-Sender: gmich@argos.sae.gr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:52:27 +0300 To: Ray Bayles From: "George A. Michalopoulos" Subject: SOLVED: URGENT: help wanted Cc: ThinkPad list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: At 07:48 =F0=EC 17/9/1998 -0600, Ray Bayles wrote: >Do you know how to access the test screens? Getting=20 >the info is detailed in the manual. If you do not >have it let me know. There are ways to test and >repair the machine (Sometimes) Do not despair (Yet) sometimes we are dummiest than we seem ;) i had just to press enter, in the garbled screen to get into the setup utilities.. after 6 hours, comprehensive reading of almost all service manuals, i solved the problem. i pressed enter, i re-entered the date, and Thinkpad booted normally ;) i want to thank everyone helped me. George A. Michalopoulos =D3=F5=EC=E2=EF=FD=EB=E9=EF =C1=F0=EF=E4=DE=EC=EF=F5 =C5=EB=EB=E7=ED=E9=F3= =EC=EF=FD http://www.sae.gr From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 13:53:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09274 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07736; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:43:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07212; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:42:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07188; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from robinson.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA09771; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:42:44 -1000 Message-ID: <001801bde262$19a5a380$fb32ab80@robinson.math.hawaii.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: [TPslightlyofftopic] Canon portable printer Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:39:19 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Apropos of a recent thread on portable printers, I just bought a refurbed Canon BJC-80 (for the ridiculously low price of $149). So far my main complaint is that the IR port is on the left of the printer, making an IR connection to my TP560 (also with a left-hand port) difficult. Has anyone tried using mirrors to redirect IR signals? (BTW, I bought it from www.bigcityexpress.com, who seem unusually legit for a NY-area dealer.) - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 15:41:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11350 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14680; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:38:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:37:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14540; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (root@tam.dorsai.org [206.127.32.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14515; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA06979 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:39:16 -0400 (EDT) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id PAA27066 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:39:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809171939.PAA27066@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Silence!!!! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:37:46 -0400 (edt) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ah, new computers. Took my TP 560e out for a walk for the first time, to take notes at a conference I was covering. The damn thing bleeped and farted so many times I had to close it and take out a notebook--the kind with a spiral wire holding it together. TPs used to have a function key that would completely silence the speaker. How do I do it with this model??? The onscreen manual, of course is not a damned bit of help. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins Broadcasting & Cable Magazine higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 16:02:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA11744 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16148; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:51:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15983; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:51:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redfish.go2net.com (redfish.go2net.com [207.178.55.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15970; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marcs by redfish.go2net.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0zJk2l-0006U0-00; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:48:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:48:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Slemko X-Sender: marcs@redfish To: John Higgins cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Silence!!!! In-Reply-To: <199809171939.PAA27066@amanda.dorsai.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Marc Slemko List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, John Higgins wrote: > Ah, new computers. Took my TP 560e out for a walk for the first time, to > take notes at a conference I was covering. The damn thing bleeped and > farted so many times I had to close it and take out a notebook--the kind > with a spiral wire holding it together. TPs used to have a function key > that would completely silence the speaker. How do I do it with this > model??? The onscreen manual, of course is not a damned bit of help. Turn down the volume on the speaker using the switch? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 16:06:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA11840 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16818; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:58:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16531; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vortex.uplanet.com (host-165-3.uplanet.com [204.163.165.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16518; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vortex (tibia.uplanet.com [208.232.189.3]) by vortex.uplanet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA13932; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980917125419.00812e60@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:54:19 -0700 To: John Higgins , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jesse Montrose Subject: Re: Silence!!!! In-Reply-To: <199809171939.PAA27066@amanda.dorsai.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: volume dial, right hand side At 03:37 PM 9/17/98 -0400, John Higgins wrote: >Ah, new computers. Took my TP 560e out for a walk for the first time, to >take notes at a conference I was covering. The damn thing bleeped and >farted so many times I had to close it and take out a notebook--the kind >with a spiral wire holding it together. TPs used to have a function key >that would completely silence the speaker. How do I do it with this >model??? The onscreen manual, of course is not a damned bit of help. > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > John M. Higgins > Broadcasting & Cable Magazine > higgins@dorsai.org > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 16:25:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12196 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19005; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:22:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:21:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18851; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:21:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18670; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-90.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.90]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id PAA24464; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980917160422.0076e68c@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:04:22 -0400 To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de, ThinkPad List From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: TP600: 3Com Card In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 03:54 PM 9/17/98 +0200, Alexander Krumeich wrote: >Hi, > >my girl friend needs to buy an Ethernet card for her TP600 with Win95. >The people at the organisation she is currently staying at recommended >the 3Com Fast Etherlink XL 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card, Model 3C547-TX. > >Does anybody here have experiences with that card? I recall that people >were talking about CardBus and CardWizard issues. Any problems to be >expected on that side? > I use this very card with a 770ED, and a co-consultant uses the same card with a 770. I do not use CardWizard with my machine, and it works fine with stock OSR2 drivers for Cardbus 32-bit. Zero problems. With all network field jobs, we only use 3Com and then Intel equipment for the hardware end of the equation. Minimal problems. ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 16:27:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12219 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18787; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:20:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:19:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18630; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:19:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18610; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA51868; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:02:52 -0400 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d03lms02.boulder.ibm.com [9.99.80.12]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA72680; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:17:42 -0400 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D03AU006 id 5030200035953962; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:29:14 -0400 From: Drew Gazey To: Cc: Subject: Re: Silence!!!! Message-ID: <5030200035953962000002L022*@MHS> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:29:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On the right hand side , just bside the PCMCIA slots, is a physical dia= l control .... #include higgins@dorsai.org on 09-17-98 03:42:32 PM Please respond to higgins@dorsai.org To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: Silence!!!! Ah, new computers. Took my TP 560e out for a walk for the first time, t= o take notes at a conference I was covering. The damn thing bleeped and farted so many times I had to close it and take out a notebook--the kin= d with a spiral wire holding it together. TPs used to have a function key= that would completely silence the speaker. How do I do it with this model??? The onscreen manual, of course is not a damned bit of help. -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- John M. Higgins Broadcasting & Cable Magazine higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- = From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 17:28:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA13475 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23770; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:21:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:19:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23571; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23537; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (193.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.193]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id RAA28838; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36017D16.E0F74D11@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:20:22 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Haven't gotten Infrared port to work References: <199809170616.CAA16706@mail.binghamton.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You have to turn off the serial port (com1) for the Ir port (com1) to work, which you probably did.. be sure the other devices are working.. is there an h/p laserjet 5P or 6P around that you can test the Ir on.. if it is inplemented, you should see the little Ir icon in the sys tray, near the clock.. :-) Ken wrote: > > I haven't yet had any success getting the infrared port to work on my > 770ED, under Windows 95 OSR/2. > > I have it enabled in the Thinkpad Configuration program. Under Device > Manager, "Infrared -> Built-in Infrared port on laptop or desktop" is there > and OK. "Ports -> Built-in Infrared port on laptop (COM1)" and "Infrared > Printing (LPT)" and "Infrared Serial (COM)" are enabled, and the normal > COM1 and LPT1 are disabled. > > I run the Infrared control panel, and it sits there and polls every three > seconds looking for another machine, and can't find one. > > Admittedly, so far I've only tried communicating with other devices that I > also haven't confirmed the state of the infrared port of. In both cases, > it was someone else's laptop, running Windows 95. > > Is there an obvious problem here? Am I supposed to turn something off, or > reconfigure something? > > Thanks for any insight. > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com > http://free-music.com/ken -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 17:59:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA14237 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:59:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25040; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:46:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:44:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24917; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24858; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:43:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-90.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.90]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id RAA07754; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:30:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980917173509.00695624@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:35:09 -0400 To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de, ThinkPad List From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: TP600: 3Com Card In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980917160422.0076e68c@postoffice2.bellatlantic. net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 04:04 PM 9/17/98 -0400, Mark Bell wrote: >At 03:54 PM 9/17/98 +0200, Alexander Krumeich wrote: >>Hi, >> >>my girl friend needs to buy an Ethernet card for her TP600 with Win95. >>The people at the organisation she is currently staying at recommended >>the 3Com Fast Etherlink XL 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card, Model 3C547-TX. >> >>Does anybody here have experiences with that card? I recall that people >>were talking about CardBus and CardWizard issues. Any problems to be >>expected on that side? >> > >I use this very card with a 770ED, and a co-consultant uses the same card >with a 770. I do not use CardWizard with my machine, and it works fine with >stock OSR2 drivers for Cardbus 32-bit. Zero problems. With all network field >jobs, we only use 3Com and then Intel equipment for the hardware end of the >equation. Minimal problems. Slight correction. The PC Card did come with a driver, but I meant to say it works fine with OSR2 and stock Cardbus support under Win95 once installed. ;) ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 18:26:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA15280 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:26:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26288; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:11:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26103; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26088; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (193.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.193]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id SAA17393; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:11:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3601898A.F3E85BCA@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:13:30 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Ross CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: [TPslightlyofftopic] Canon portable printer References: <001801bde262$19a5a380$fb32ab80@robinson.math.hawaii.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: David.. you can NOT use a mirror.. well, ok, you CAN use a mirror BUT the print will come out backward..! :-) David Ross wrote: > > Apropos of a recent thread on portable printers, I just bought a refurbed > Canon BJC-80 (for the ridiculously low price of $149). So far my main > complaint is that the IR port is on the left of the printer, making an IR > connection to my TP560 (also with a left-hand port) difficult. Has anyone > tried using mirrors to redirect IR signals? > > (BTW, I bought it from www.bigcityexpress.com, who seem unusually legit for a > NY-area dealer.) > > - David R. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 18:27:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA15285 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26826; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:18:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26639; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26609; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (dgoldman.vip.best.com [204.156.137.147]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with SMTP id PAA11806 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980917151711.008f2430@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:17:11 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: IBM announces *NEW* ThinkPad Models 600, 380Z and 560Z Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: --------------- Focusing on You --------------- An IBM News Service Customized to Match Your Interests September 17, 1998 Let your colleagues know about IBM's "Focusing on You News Digest!" 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In This Issue: ============== [SNIP] New Product Announcements o New IBM ThinkPad Models 600, 380Z, and 560Z Are Here http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/index.html -- /=================================================================\ | David Goldman | My business motto is: | | IVR@DGoldman.Com | Choose any two: [ ] Fast | | | [ ] Cheap | | Ask me for my PGP key. | [ ] Right | \=================================================================/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 18:27:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA15307 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:27:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26686; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:19:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:17:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26526; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:17:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26513; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:17:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (193.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.193]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id SAA19330; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:17:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36018B0D.DF7CCC64@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:19:57 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "George A. Michalopoulos" CC: Ray Bayles , ThinkPad list Subject: Re: SOLVED: URGENT: help wanted References: <3.0.32.19980917185226.00adb100@argos.sae.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Intrestingly, the exact same thing happened to me on my 770ED.. is the cmos battery or cmos itself exhibiting strange behaviour..?? my machine had lost its date/time info..! George A. Michalopoulos wrote: >=20 > At 07:48 =F0=EC 17/9/1998 -0600, Ray Bayles wrote: > >Do you know how to access the test screens? Getting > >the info is detailed in the manual. If you do not > >have it let me know. There are ways to test and > >repair the machine (Sometimes) Do not despair (Yet) >=20 > sometimes we are dummiest than we seem ;) > i had just to press enter, in the garbled screen to get into the setup > utilities.. > after 6 hours, comprehensive reading of almost all service manuals, i > solved the problem. > i pressed enter, i re-entered the date, and Thinkpad booted normally ;) >=20 > i want to thank everyone helped me. >=20 > George A. Michalopoulos >=20 > =D3=F5=EC=E2=EF=FD=EB=E9=EF =C1=F0=EF=E4=DE=EC=EF=F5 =C5=EB=EB=E7=ED=E9= =F3=EC=EF=FD > http://www.sae.gr --=20 Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 18:37:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA15509 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:37:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27683; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:31:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27516; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27489; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:31:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p03.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.72]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA03856; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809172228.PAA03856@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "David Ross" Date: Thu, 17 Sep 98 15:29:14 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: paint peeling on 770! List-Unsubscribe: >My point was that IBM should replace the peeling paint on Paul R's 770. I would certainly *not* expect them to replace peeling key >labels on an old 701! Of couse not! But if the whole keyboard is defective, including a cheap trackpoint, why not? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 18:39:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA15617 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27893; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:33:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27714; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27664; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p03.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.72]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA04002 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809172230.PAA04002@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 17 Sep 98 15:31:28 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area List-Unsubscribe: >Saves them money, too bad if the user is inconvenienced? They are just >joing the parade. > >Why did thousands of people buy Iomega products even with the problems they >were having. Or millions of people buying Microsoft Windows 95? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 18:41:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA15635 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28339; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:36:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28174; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:36:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28062; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:36:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p03.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.72]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA04156; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809172233.PAA04156@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 17 Sep 98 15:34:12 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Service warning: MicroAge in SF Bay Area List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:05:44 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >John.. >when i sent a used 770-1AU in to have the keyboard bezel replaced (the >paint was peeling) they gave me a hassel.. finally, it was replaced with >no further complaint.. (i THINK an IBM friend pushed them a bit).. >the peeling paint seems to be a relatively common problem.. > >at this time, i started a thread on my thinkpads.com open forum about >how ez serve would react.. got some interesting comments.. > >please feel free to add your tale of 701-woe to it.. or start a new >version.. Speaking of forums, I have an IRC server running on this machine (though my net connection redials every 8 hours). The address is pkhoury.dyn.ml.org port 6667 and anyone can talk about ThinkPad stuff in #thinkpad -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 19:55:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA27843 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01512; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:50:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01398; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:50:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01385; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hetherington.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA12269; Thu, 17 Sep 98 19:50:13 EDT Message-Id: <3601A033.8525454B@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:50:11 -0400 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, Spoken Language Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: new TP600 models Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: There is now a new top-of-the-line TP600 with 300MHz mobile Pentium II. To me, the interesting thing is that it only comes with a 5.1GB disk instead of the 6.4GB disk that is available for upgrades (I have one installed). The TP600 comes with Win98 or WinNT. My 266MHz Pentium II is not the "mobile" variety. Is the mobile variety much better with power management? Still, I get about 3h out of my TP600 (usually running Linux), and this is with max backlight brightness. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 20:30:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA03667 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:30:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02933; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:25:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02843; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02816; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA11923 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:25:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:25:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad Subject: EZ-Serv - I take back the bad things I said In-Reply-To: <000a01bde167$417af460$4501a8c0@SYC760.connectingpoint.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Just got my 701 back from EZ-Serv today (I sent it out last Friday, and it actually got back yesterday, Wednesday, but I wasn't there to sign for it). I'd sent it in for: - charger circuitry failure - modem noise - keyboard lettering coming off - rubber feet had come off - cracked lid When IBM called me on Monday, they said they'd only fix the charger and modem under warranty, and wanted $320 for the lid and rubber feet. I told them to just do the warranty work. I guess I got a nice technician or something because they went ahead and replaced the lid and the two keys whose letters were coming off. The only thing they didn't fix were the four rubber feet. :-( Unfortunately, they cracked the lower lid near the hinge (well, it was slightly cracked before, but now the entire piece of plastic around the hinge rod is loose). So I guess back it goes to EZ-Serv. On the plus side, since the cracked piece is part of the lower lid, I guess that means I'll get four new rubber feet. :-) Kinda makes you wonder what they would've done if I'd agreed to pay the $320 though... -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 21:06:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA03127 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04655; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:59:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04512; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.86]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04500; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aztec2.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #24133) with ESMTP id <01J1X7C0H6PO9CJ9DM@asu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:59:41 MST Received: (from elizaw@localhost) by aztec2.asu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA22454; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:59:40 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:59:40 -0700 (MST) From: elizaw@aztec.asu.edu (ELIZA) Subject: Re: [TPslightlyofftopic] Canon portable printer To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-to: elizaw@aztec.asu.edu Message-id: <199809180059.RAA22454@aztec2.asu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > David Ross wrote: > > > > Apropos of a recent thread on portable printers, I just bought a refurbed > > Canon BJC-80 (for the ridiculously low price of $149). So far my main > > complaint is that the IR port is on the left of the printer, making an IR > > connection to my TP560 (also with a left-hand port) difficult. Has anyone > > tried using mirrors to redirect IR signals? Aluminum foil? (from the kitchen shelf) Aluminized mylar foil (inside of a candy bar wrapper) Emergency signal mirror, metalic (from outdoor gear store) Piece of metalized mylar from emergency blanket (same store) Piece of gold coated plastic (from a space craft, space suit, etc) Front-silvered mirror (from a surplus laser, slide projector, etc) j.c.lerman jclerm@aztec.asu.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 21:28:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06628 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05632; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:22:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05475; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05456; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:22:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA12211; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:22:25 -1000 Message-ID: <004c01bde2a2$d6c117c0$cf1a7e82@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "John H. Kim" , "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: [TPslightlyofftopic] Canon portable printer Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:22:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >> David.. >> you can NOT use a mirror.. >> well, ok, you CAN use a mirror BUT the print will come out backward..! Might improve the content of my papers:-) >In my experience with TV remotes though, I can usually bounce >the signal off the white paint on the walls. Have you tested >the range of the IR yet? Distance doesn't seem to be a problem, just orientation. The Canon IR is mounted on a nifty swivel, so it can be swung out nearly orthogonal to the edge of the printer; even with it swung out like this with the printer behind the 560, I seem to have to rotate the 560 quite a ways before they talk to one another. (Still better than a cable, though possible the latter is faster.) - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 17 22:46:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA09532 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 22:46:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03390; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:36:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:35:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03308; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03296; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:35:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA11991 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:35:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:35:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Thinkpad Subject: Re: [TPslightlyofftopic] Canon portable printer In-Reply-To: <3601898A.F3E85BCA@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > David Ross wrote: > > > > Apropos of a recent thread on portable printers, I just bought a refurbed > > Canon BJC-80 (for the ridiculously low price of $149). So far my main > > complaint is that the IR port is on the left of the printer, making an IR > > connection to my TP560 (also with a left-hand port) difficult. Has anyone > > tried using mirrors to redirect IR signals? > > David.. > you can NOT use a mirror.. > well, ok, you CAN use a mirror BUT the print will come out backward..! > :-) Heh heh. But seriously, IIRC, most glass is opaque in part of the infrared spectrum. If a normal mirror (silvered on the back of the glass) doesn't work, try a front-silvered mirror. They're usually used in optical instruments and for laser applications. A good science shop like Edmund Scientific should stock them. In my experience with TV remotes though, I can usually bounce the signal off the white paint on the walls. Have you tested the range of the IR yet? I managed to put 15 feet between my 701 and Jet-eye before file transfers at 19.2 kbps started to suck. I had to go about 30 feet before I completely lost the ability to type between the two computers. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 01:00:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA02337 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14861; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:59:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14726; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:59:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (root@tam.dorsai.org [206.127.32.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14714; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA26106 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:01:28 -0400 (EDT) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id BAA03856 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809180501.BAA03856@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Re: Silence!!!! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:01:24 -0400 (edt) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > > volume dial, right hand side > The risk of the Internet is that you expose your stupidity to millions of people simultaneously instead of letting it leak out gradually to a few people at a time. Thanks all. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins Broadcasting & Cable Magazine higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 01:34:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03156 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16849; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:34:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:32:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16595; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:32:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.1.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16570; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.194]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12635 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:32:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.43); 18 Sep 98 07:32:27 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.43); 18 Sep 98 07:31:56 +0200 Received: from magrathea.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.178) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.43) with ESMTP; 18 Sep 98 06:02:12 +0200 Received: from voyager.stelarcom.de (voyager.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.10]) by Magrathea.stelarcom.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA01767 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:58:18 +0200 Message-Id: <199809172158.XAA01767@Magrathea.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:58:16 -0100 Reply-To: "Alexander Wanger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Silence!!!! List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:29:14 -0400, Drew Gazey wrote: Hi! >On the right hand side , just bside the PCMCIA slots, is a physical dial >control .... Besides that I had to disable some bells using thinkpad-features. (E. g. beep on suspend, beep on hibernation, beep on power low.) At least on my 760 they're not affected by the hardware-control. At least the suspend can be a bit annoying in a lecture, confernece etc. >Ah, new computers. Took my TP 560e out for a walk for the first time, to >take notes at a conference I was covering. The damn thing bleeped and >farted so many times I had to close it and take out a notebook--the kind >with a spiral wire holding it together. TPs used to have a function key >that would completely silence the speaker. How do I do it with this >model??? The onscreen manual, of course is not a damned bit of help. > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > John M. Higgins > Broadcasting & Cable Magazine > higgins@dorsai.org > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > > > > -- CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You may also reply to Alexander.Wagner@gmx.de or Alexander.Wagner@gmx.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 10:24:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA04394 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14809; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:21:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14472; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:21:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx (cortes.cibnor.mx [200.23.161.225]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14439; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:21:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx by cortes.cibnor.mx id aa18892; 18 Sep 98 8:21 MDT Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:21:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Larry Miller To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Silence!!!! In-Reply-To: <199809180501.BAA03856@amanda.dorsai.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:01:24 -0400 (edt) > From: John Higgins > The risk of the Internet is that you expose your stupidity to millions of > people simultaneously instead of letting it leak out gradually to a few > people at a time. John, that is a quotable quote. May I use it (due credit given, of course)? Saludos-- Larry Larry Miller Administrador de Redes / Network Administrator Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico lmiller@cibnor.mx http://www.cibnor.mx/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 11:29:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA05423 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:29:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18979; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:29:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:28:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18847; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18798; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:27:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA07902 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:26:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809181526.KAA07902@dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ali-ca17-06.ix.netcom.com(209.110.228.6) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma007880; Fri Sep 18 10:26:00 1998 Subject: [770] My repair saga ends Date: Fri, 18 Sep 98 08:26:00 -0700 x-sender: bfink@popd.ix.netcom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: bfink To: "thinkpad" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: Well, it looks like the fun finally is over. [This is the follow-up to the MicroAge rant] Once the machine got into the hands of IBM EZserve, everything went as well as could be expected. 1-day turnaround, and the machine was in my hands yesterday. I got phone updates at every juncture from the rep handling my case, and the machine (cross your trackpoints) seems to be stable and happy. The Moral: *only* work directly with IBM. I even sort-of got my new HD to work. Anyone have pointers to information on how to configure and install a 3.2g in the Ultrabay. Someone said I had to use fdisk. What's that (said the 14-year Macintosh veteran)? rwf PS: Anyone else considering going to FAT32 but not WIN98? Is it worth it? Could I do it for only the new HD and leave the other drive the same? bob ________________________________________________________________________ Robert Fink | Assistant Professor | "Mr. Rochberg's quartet is -- how Dept of Musicology | did we used to put it? -- beauti- UCLA | ful." [Stanford Humanities Ctr., 98-99] | | - Donal Henahan on CURRENT EMAIL: | Rochberg's 3rd bfink@ix.netcom.com | ________________________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 12:53:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA07184 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:53:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24066; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:53:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:51:43 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23868; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:51:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id MAA29749; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:51:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22286; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:34:22 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id MAA00205; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36028BA3.749F9328@csc.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:34:44 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bfink CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: [770] My repair saga ends References: <199809181526.KAA07902@dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: bfink wrote: > [snip] > > I even sort-of got my new HD to work. Anyone have pointers to > information on how to configure and install a 3.2g in the Ultrabay. > Someone said I had to use fdisk. What's that (said the 14-year Macintosh > veteran)? > > rwf > > PS: Anyone else considering going to FAT32 but not WIN98? Is it worth > it? Could I do it for only the new HD and leave the other drive the same? > > bob What operating system are you currently using? Sounds like Win95 from the message (since you mention FAT32). You could use FAT32 on the new drive and keep FAT16 on your main drive if you want. However, you might find it easier to stick with FAT16 all around and just deal with the extra logical drive. The fdisk program is a DOS application that sets up partitions on your hard drives. You need to use it first to create the partition(s), then use format to make them usable. After those steps you should be able to use the drive. I'm no expert on fdisk, so I don't know exactly what options you need to use. I'm sure you can find that info on the web or someone else in the list will chime in. Good luck! Rob ---------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rbell1@nospam@csc.com ---------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 12:59:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA07263 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:59:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24518; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:58:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24408; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:58:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24393; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (pkhoury@p19.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.88]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA12597 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199809181655.JAA12597@ritchie.loop.com> Message-Id: <199809181655.JAA12597@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" Resent-From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" X-Original-To: "bfink" Date: Fri, 18 Sep 98 09:55:52 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [770] My repair saga ends List-Unsubscribe: >Once the machine got into the hands of IBM EZserve, everything went as >well as could be expected. 1-day turnaround, and the machine was in my >hands yesterday. I got phone updates at every juncture from the rep >handling my case, and the machine (cross your trackpoints) seems to be >stable and happy. The Moral: *only* work directly with IBM. > Or even, work only with the highest up customer support. I called the general manager's office (of the whole PC company), and I got to someone who helped the whole machine get fixed. Unfortunately, I have to deal with my broken machine now until I get a suitable replacement... >I even sort-of got my new HD to work. Anyone have pointers to >information on how to configure and install a 3.2g in the Ultrabay. >Someone said I had to use fdisk. What's that (said the 14-year Macintosh >veteran)? It defines partitions for the HD. Looks like I'll use it to dump Win95 when I get my 1.4GB HD. If you want multiple OSes such as NT, Win98, OS/2, and/or Linux, you would use fdisk to define a partition for each. But the DOS fdisk has some problems, and I much more prefer OS/2 and Linux' fdisk. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 13:01:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA07301 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:01:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24822; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:59:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24580; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24391; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:58:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (pkhoury@p19.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.88]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA12587 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199809181655.JAA12587@ritchie.loop.com> Message-Id: <199809181655.JAA12587@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" Resent-From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" X-Original-To: "John H. Kim" Date: Fri, 18 Sep 98 09:50:45 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: EZ-Serv - I take back the bad things I said List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:25:29 -0400 (EDT), John H. Kim wrote: >Just got my 701 back from EZ-Serv today (I sent it out last >Friday, and it actually got back yesterday, Wednesday, but I >wasn't there to sign for it). I'd sent it in for: > >- charger circuitry failure >- modem noise >- keyboard lettering coming off >- rubber feet had come off >- cracked lid > >When IBM called me on Monday, they said they'd only fix the >charger and modem under warranty, and wanted $320 for the lid >and rubber feet. I told them to just do the warranty work. >I guess I got a nice technician or something because they went >ahead and replaced the lid and the two keys whose letters were >coming off. The only thing they didn't fix were the four >rubber feet. :-( > >Unfortunately, they cracked the lower lid near the hinge >(well, it was slightly cracked before, but now the entire >piece of plastic around the hinge rod is loose). So I guess >back it goes to EZ-Serv. On the plus side, since the cracked >piece is part of the lower lid, I guess that means I'll get >four new rubber feet. :-) > >Kinda makes you wonder what they would've done if I'd agreed >to pay the $320 though... Yeah, it does. Maybe send you the part so you do it yourself, which they also did in my case. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 13:27:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08101 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25456; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:02:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24940; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:02:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24874; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:01:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (pkhoury@p19.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.88]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA12708; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809181658.JAA12708@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "bfink" , "Rob Bell" Cc: "thinkpad" Date: Fri, 18 Sep 98 09:59:13 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [770] My repair saga ends List-Unsubscribe: >The fdisk program is a DOS application that sets up partitions on your >hard drives. You need to use it first to create the partition(s), then >use format to make them usable. After those steps you should be able to >use the drive. I'm no expert on fdisk, so I don't know exactly what >options you need to use. I'm sure you can find that info on the web or >someone else in the list will chime in. > One thing you should know - with DOS fdisk, you can only create one primary partition, which means you can only boot from one partition. You can then make one logical partition, and up to 25 extended drives (or is it the other way around, ext. part., log. drv?). OS/2 fdisk and Linux fdisk let's you use up to 4 primary partitions, for multiple OSes. And I think the Macintosh even has a disk partioning utility, though I only know that it comes on the Disk Tools disk (I'm going to also upgrade my Mac soon). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 13:32:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08165 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27663; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:30:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27488; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27452; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:30:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com (atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com [144.253.1.35]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA22712 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rhubbell@aw.sgi.com) Received: from aw.sgi.com by atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA01657; Sender: rick@aw.sgi.com Message-ID: <360298B0.F17249FC@aw.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:30:24 -0700 From: Richard Hubbell Organization: Alias|Wavefront X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: booting from a cd on TP760EL? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I'm new to the list and new to thinkpads. I've got a 760EL but no floppy and I'd like to be able to boot >from the cdrom. Are there some patches or a bios that'll let me do this? I don't have a floppy for this thing and they cost ~$160 so I want to avoid buying one if I can. Any suggestions or pointers welcome. I've searched the net and looked at FAQs but have had no luck. Thanks, Rick From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 14:37:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09347 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:37:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01642; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:33:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01322; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@sammy.netpathway.com [208.137.139.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01302; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netpathway.com (port17-wayn.netpathway.com [208.137.139.214]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29331 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:31:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3602A6F2.6A470EDD@netpathway.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:31:14 -0500 From: Eric Giles X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: booting from a cd on TP760EL? References: <360298B0.F17249FC@aw.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hold down the F1 key immediately after turning the unit on. This will bring you to the EZ Setup screen. Select config, and there you can choose your startup options. Just select CD-ROM as your starup device. Hope this helps- Eric Giles Richard Hubbell wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm new to the list and new to thinkpads. > > I've got a 760EL but no floppy and I'd like to be able to boot > from the cdrom. Are there some patches or a bios that'll > let me do this? I don't have a floppy for this thing and > they cost ~$160 so I want to avoid buying one if I can. > > Any suggestions or pointers welcome. > > I've searched the net and looked at FAQs but have had no > luck. > > Thanks, > Rick From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 15:10:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA09853 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03431; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:10:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:08:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03272; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU (uacsc2.albany.edu [169.226.1.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03259; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:08:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809181908.PAA03259@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from user [128.226.21.41] by CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:08:32 EDT X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:08:27 -0400 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TPALL] Making CD-R's to replace need for floppies? In-Reply-To: <3602A6F2.6A470EDD@netpathway.com> References: <360298B0.F17249FC@aw.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >Hold down the F1 key immediately after turning the unit on. This will >bring you to the EZ Setup screen. Select config, and there you can >choose your startup options. Just select CD-ROM as your starup device. This reminds me: Is it practical to make a CD-R that consists of all the various IBM device driver install disks (hmm, is that what the Recovery CD is?) that are available on their webpage? Also, how would one make a bootable CD-R? I'd like to have a recoverable system, and it seems wise to hold onto all the device driver disks, but I don't want to actually hold onto that many floppies. Just an idea... Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 16:21:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA11048 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08646; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:20:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:12:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07962; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:12:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07948; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:12:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com (atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com [144.253.1.35]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA02276; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:10:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rhubbell@aw.sgi.com) Received: from aw.sgi.com by atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA07078; Sender: rick@aw.sgi.com Message-ID: <3602BEAA.58C3B267@aw.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:12:26 -0700 From: Richard Hubbell Organization: Alias|Wavefront X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Giles CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: booting from a cd on TP760EL? References: <360298B0.F17249FC@aw.sgi.com> <3602A6F2.6A470EDD@netpathway.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Eric Giles wrote: > > Hold down the F1 key immediately after turning the unit on. This will > bring you to the EZ Setup screen. Select config, and there you can > choose your startup options. Just select CD-ROM as your starup device. It only has hard disk(s) or floppy or network. Do I need a new bios? Thanks, Rick > > Hope this helps- > > Eric Giles > > Richard Hubbell wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm new to the list and new to thinkpads. > > > > I've got a 760EL but no floppy and I'd like to be able to boot > > from the cdrom. Are there some patches or a bios that'll > > let me do this? I don't have a floppy for this thing and > > they cost ~$160 so I want to avoid buying one if I can. > > > > Any suggestions or pointers welcome. > > > > I've searched the net and looked at FAQs but have had no > > luck. > > > > Thanks, > > Rick -- Richard Hubbell(Rick) \ It's a funny thing about life, Alias|wavefront / if you refuse to accept anything 805-884-7859 fax:8859 \ but the best, you often get it. rhubbell@aw.sgi.com / -W. Somerset Maugham From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 16:57:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA11559 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10340; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:56:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10209; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:56:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10191; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com (atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com [144.253.1.35]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA11925; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:54:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rhubbell@aw.sgi.com) Received: from aw.sgi.com by atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA08589; Sender: rick@aw.sgi.com Message-ID: <3602C8F3.974A6260@aw.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:56:19 -0700 From: Richard Hubbell Organization: Alias|Wavefront X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: [TPALL] Making CD-R's to replace need for floppies? References: <360298B0.F17249FC@aw.sgi.com> <199809181908.PAA03259@CS.UTK.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ken wrote: > > >Hold down the F1 key immediately after turning the unit on. This will > >bring you to the EZ Setup screen. Select config, and there you can > >choose your startup options. Just select CD-ROM as your starup device. > My system has no choice for setting the cdrom as the boot device. It has floppy,hard disk, pcmcia, network. > This reminds me: Is it practical to make a CD-R that consists of all the > various IBM device driver install disks (hmm, is that what the Recovery CD > is?) that are available on their webpage? > > Also, how would one make a bootable CD-R? I've made a bootable cdrom the software we have (can't remember the name) lets you do just that. I can find it if you want. > > I'd like to have a recoverable system, and it seems wise to hold onto all > the device driver disks, but I don't want to actually hold onto that many > floppies. Sounds like a good idea. Rick > > Just an idea... > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com -- Richard Hubbell(Rick) \ Alias|wavefront / "Gentlemen! You can't fight in here, 805-884-7859 fax:8859 \ this is the War Room!" rhubbell@aw.sgi.com / --The President, Dr. Strangelove From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 17:14:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA12047 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:14:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11311; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:13:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11203; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@sammy.netpathway.com [208.137.139.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11189; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:13:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netpathway.com (port17-wayn.netpathway.com [208.137.139.214]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00726 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:13:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3602CCE1.6C58E648@netpathway.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:13:05 -0500 From: Eric Giles X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: booting from a cd on TP760EL? References: <360298B0.F17249FC@aw.sgi.com> <3602A6F2.6A470EDD@netpathway.com> <3602BEAA.58C3B267@aw.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I was sure the 760 models would let you do this (I use to have a 760ED), but I may have been mistaken. Sorry! The 770 I have does let you select the CD-ROM as a bootable device (this is how I installed Win98). It might be possible that an updated BIOS would give you this capability, so you may want to try that. Eric Giles Richard Hubbell wrote: > > Eric Giles wrote: > > > > Hold down the F1 key immediately after turning the unit on. This will > > bring you to the EZ Setup screen. Select config, and there you can > > choose your startup options. Just select CD-ROM as your starup device. > > It only has hard disk(s) or floppy or network. > > Do I need a new bios? > > Thanks, > > Rick > > > > > Hope this helps- > > > > Eric Giles > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 18:07:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12808 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:07:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14237; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:06:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14132; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14119; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA15953; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:06:24 -1000 Message-ID: <002501bde350$968920e0$0db5ae80@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: Subject: Re: [TPslightlyofftopic] Canon portable printer Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:06:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I asked: > Has anyone > tried using mirrors to redirect IR signals? The tinfoil suggestion worked! I wrapped a bit of tinfoil around the rubber port cover from the 560, stood it on edge at a pi/4 angle to the TP, and it talked sans problem to the printer behind it. Cool. Next I'll try routing the signal all the way around - I really want the printer to sit *next* to the laptop, not behind it... - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 18:26:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA13138 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14994; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:26:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:25:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14895; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.86]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14883; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aztec2.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #24133) with ESMTP id <01J1YG94ULZW9CJDBQ@asu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:25:28 MST Received: (from elizaw@localhost) by aztec2.asu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA02135; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:25:26 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:25:26 -0700 (MST) From: elizaw@aztec.asu.edu (ELIZA) Subject: [TPslightlyofftopic] Canon portable printer To: ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-to: elizaw@aztec.asu.edu Message-id: <199809182225.PAA02135@aztec2.asu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: I asked: > Has anyone > tried using mirrors to redirect IR signals? The tinfoil suggestion worked! I wrapped a bit of tinfoil around the rubber port cover from the 560, stood it on edge at a pi/4 angle to the TP, and it talked sans problem to the printer behind it. Cool. Next I'll try routing the signal all the way around - I really want the printer to sit *next* to the laptop, not behind it... - David R. Comment: great! you made a piece of a "light tube" or "funnel" or "wave-guide", just go on guiding the infrared light. Playing with a flashlight (bulb) as source (without the reflector) and a piece of white paper as a screen, can give you a visual indication of the efficiency of the device. j.-c. lerman jclerm@aztec.asu.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 18:53:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA13605 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16272; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:52:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16184; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.netwiz.net (Mail.NetWiz.Net [208.136.106.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16172; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.135.14.52] (SoCal56k152.NetWiz.Net [208.135.14.52]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA09415 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:52:48 -0700 X-Sender: mikeford@mail.netwiz.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3602C8F3.974A6260@aw.sgi.com> References: <360298B0.F17249FC@aw.sgi.com> <199809181908.PAA03259@CS.UTK.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:14:29 -0700 To: Thinkpad From: Mike Ford Subject: Re: [TPALL] Making CD-R's to replace need for floppies? List-Unsubscribe: >> This reminds me: Is it practical to make a CD-R that consists of all the >> various IBM device driver install disks (hmm, is that what the Recovery CD >> is?) that are available on their webpage? >> >> Also, how would one make a bootable CD-R? > >I've made a bootable cdrom the software we have >(can't remember the name) lets you do just that. >I can find it if you want. I have a Sony 926S CDR, and a Adaptec 358 EPP/SCSI, that I would love to use to make a recovery CD for our 365XD. I would be happy just figuring out how to make a backup this way. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 19:22:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA13821 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15451; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:35:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15363; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15348; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23683 invoked by uid 66); 18 Sep 1998 22:34:29 -0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: 770E won't hibernate anymore Date: 18 Sep 1998 19:45:56 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 14 Message-ID: <6tud9k$opq$1@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <35FB4074.72C82C@mcione.com> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971215 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i486)) List-Unsubscribe: Jim Schneider wrote: > Invalid VxD dynamic link call from SSPCCRDX(03) +0001B1F to device > "33A7", service 1. > Your Windows configuration is invalid. Run the windows setup program > again to > correct this problem. Sounds like CardSoft stuff is deactivated while the sspccrdx.vxd still active. I had that too. -- Simon's Law: Everything put together falls apart sooner or later. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 19:29:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14027 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17517; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:29:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:28:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17371; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17357; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (GREASYGIRL.brightware.com [206.156.118.187]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA16047; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <006801bde35c$1242b560$bb769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "David Ross" , Subject: Re: [TPslightlyofftopic] Canon portable printer Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:28:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Giggle. Cables, which are made with metal encased in a plastic insulator, are a cool way of getting signals from Computers to Printers. Last time I checked the cable manufacturers have unilaterally decided to make all cables flexible and thus able to go around awkward angles! Curiously, in an almost monopolistic manner, both Computers and Printers have these odd things stuck to the side of them called Connectors. Almost eerily, Cables have connectors on both ends. Could we be on to something here? David -----Original Message----- From: David Ross To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [TPslightlyofftopic] Canon portable printer >I asked: > >> Has anyone >> tried using mirrors to redirect IR signals? > > >The tinfoil suggestion worked! I wrapped a bit of tinfoil around the rubber port cover from the 560, stood it on edge at a pi/4 >angle to the TP, and it talked sans problem to the printer behind it. Cool. Next I'll try routing the signal all the way around - >I really want the printer to sit *next* to the laptop, not behind it... > >- David R. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 22:14:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA15456 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22052; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:12:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21857; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:12:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21845; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809190212.WAA21845@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Sat, 17 Sep 1988 19:08:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Thinkpad mailing list" Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:13:21 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Warp installation broken List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I was cleaning up my disk and managed to screw up my Warp installation. I'm gradually getting it up to speed, but the mwave modem installation refuses to make a desktop object. Could one of you warpers please look at your modem object, and tell me what program it points to (it's not obvious from the names). Thanks! ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 23:15:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16038 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22347; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:21:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22266; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:21:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22253; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:21:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA17040; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:21:11 -1000 Message-ID: <002701bde374$2ebea740$841a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "David W. Taylor" , Subject: Re: [TPslightlyofftopic] Canon portable printer Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 21:21:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: David Taylor wrote: >Giggle. [arguments supporting cables deleted] I would have thought that the reasons for wanting to use IR if possible in this particular situation (laptop to portable printer) were fairly obvious. I will certainly grant that cables have their place, but I personally prefer that place not to be in my pocket while travelling (especially given the relative bulk of IEEE-compliant printer cables). - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 23:19:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16069 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:19:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23871; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:16:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:11:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23638; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:11:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from repulse (repulse.concentric.net [207.155.248.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23625; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:11:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earlbrya (209-142-10-201.stk.inreach.net [209.142.10.201]) by repulse (8.9.1/) id XAA17406; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:11:17 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay] Message-ID: <199809190311.XAA17406@repulse> From: "Love and Jones Webmaster" Organization: Love and Jones Paralegal...The law is on yo To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:11:24 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RAIN and WATERFALL...is it functional/good for 486's? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: As some of you know, I have a 755CD-4ZF. This is a 486DX4-100. On the documentation pages for the above cooling programs, I see no mention of the "legacy" processors, only Pentiums. My baby does tend to get a little warm on the bottom, and I thought that this might be of help. Can anyone tell me if it will? Earl From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 18 23:49:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16698 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24757; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:43:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24578; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm02sm.pmm.mci.net (pm02sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.151]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24566; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcione.com (usr58-dialup17.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27034) with ESMTP id <0EZI0050WIBKO2@PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 03:42:58 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:44:57 -0500 From: Jim Schneider Subject: 770E hibernates AGAIN! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <360328B9.1FFBDDE4@mcione.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <35FB4074.72C82C@mcione.com> <6tud9k$opq$1@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> List-Unsubscribe: Harald Milz wrote: > Jim Schneider wrote: > > > Invalid VxD dynamic link call from SSPCCRDX(03) +0001B1F to device > > "33A7", service 1. > > Your Windows configuration is invalid. Run the windows setup program > > again to > > correct this problem. > > Sounds like CardSoft stuff is deactivated while the sspccrdx.vxd still > active. I had that too. Your comment jolted my memory, I had commented out some cardsoft stuff in config.sys while working on a modem problem, and forgot to put it back. Just why that makes hibernate/resume fail I don't know, nor I guess do I care. It works again now. Thanks. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 02:15:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA18169 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27977; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:13:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27872; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27860; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA22870 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:13:53 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:13:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: RAIN and WATERFALL...is it functional/good for 486's? In-Reply-To: <199809190311.XAA17406@repulse> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, Love and Jones Webmaster wrote: > As some of you know, I have a 755CD-4ZF. This is a 486DX4-100. > On the documentation pages for the above cooling programs, I see no > mention of the "legacy" processors, only Pentiums. My baby does My guess is these programs use the halt instruction on the CPU. Basically, they should work with anything after a 486SL processor (used in the TP750). That includes most of the DX2's and all the DX4's. Intel abandoned the SL (low-power) architecture and just integrated most of the power-saving features into all their processors from that point on. NT, OS/2, and Linux all provide support for this instruction inherently. But since you found these programs, you must be using DOS or Win95. :-) Running them should make the CPU run about as cool as under NT, OS/2, or Linux. I don't know yet if Win98 supports the halt instruction. If it does and you're using Win98, running these programs won't help. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 02:26:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA18265 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:26:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28355; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:25:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:25:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28269; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:25:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@sammy.netpathway.com [208.137.139.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28257; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jabo (port8-wayn.netpathway.com [208.137.139.205]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA14954 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 01:25:22 -0500 Message-ID: <005001bde396$a91b9a80$8c454fc6@jabo.c-gate.net> From: "Eric Giles" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: RAIN and WATERFALL...is it functional/good for 486's? Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 01:28:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: > >> As some of you know, I have a 755CD-4ZF. This is a 486DX4-100. >> On the documentation pages for the above cooling programs, I see no >> mention of the "legacy" processors, only Pentiums. My baby does > >My guess is these programs use the halt instruction on the >CPU. Basically, they should work with anything after a 486SL >processor (used in the TP750). That includes most of the >DX2's and all the DX4's. Intel abandoned the SL (low-power) >architecture and just integrated most of the power-saving >features into all their processors from that point on. Unfortunately, these programs do not work with 486 class processors. I have tried CPU Idle on my 701c, and the program just shuts down after starting. It will only work on Pentium class processors. I would guess Rain and Waterfall would do the same. >I don't know yet if Win98 supports the halt instruction. If >it does and you're using Win98, running these programs won't >help. Win98 does not support the halt instruction. Really makes no sense why, but it doesn't. Oh well... Eric Giles From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 02:33:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA18319 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28756; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:32:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28673; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28650; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 10.chicago-08-09rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.151.10]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980919063153.ISVP3286@10.chicago-08-09rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 06:31:53 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TPALL] Making CD-R's to replace need for floppies? Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 06:32:56 GMT Message-ID: <360f4d23.15382208@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <360298B0.F17249FC@aw.sgi.com> <199809181908.PAA03259@CS.UTK.EDU> In-Reply-To: <199809181908.PAA03259@CS.UTK.EDU> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:08:27 -0400, Ken wrote: |This reminds me: Is it practical to make a CD-R that consists of all the |various IBM device driver install disks (hmm, is that what the Recovery = CD |is?) that are available on their webpage? This seems like it would be probable to me, based on one thing: does anyone know how the ability to boot from the pc card slot works? If the slot works by activating the slot, then looking for an IDE or EIDE device, it seems to me that it should be possible to boot a system using a bootable CD and an IDE CD-ROM or external IDE drive. I've been curious if this is possible, but IBM's techs don't seem to know and my CD-ROM is 1) SCSI and 2) I don't have a bootable CD. I've got an external drive, but it works of the parallel port rather than pc card slots. But something tells me this might be possible, and it seems worth trying if someone's got the appropriate hardware. My own solution is a PCMCIA Type III drive. I've got a 131MB Maxtor loaded with all the .cab files and a lot of other crap that originally came on my IBM 560, and before it was loaded I formatted the drive as a system drive, making it bootable. I can totally wipe my C: drive and have everything back to normal within 45 minutes or so. This is a rare solution, though, as most folks don't have high capacity pc card drives lying around (I've got a Viper 340 double-spaced as well). epbrown "Personally, I think all the world's problems have already been solved,=20 and people have decided they prefer the problems to the solutions." me - 6/13/96 The Comp.sys.laptops FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 02:38:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA18499 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29212; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:38:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29123; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29108; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 10.chicago-08-09rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.151.10]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980919063728.ITNA3286@10.chicago-08-09rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 06:37:28 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: RAIN and WATERFALL...is it functional/good for 486's? Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 06:38:36 GMT Message-ID: <36105123.16405514@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <005001bde396$a91b9a80$8c454fc6@jabo.c-gate.net> In-Reply-To: <005001bde396$a91b9a80$8c454fc6@jabo.c-gate.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 19 Sep 1998 01:28:03 -0500, "Eric Giles" wrote: |Unfortunately, these programs do not work with 486 class processors. I = have |tried CPU Idle on my 701c, and the program just shuts down after = starting. |It will only work on Pentium class processors. I would guess Rain and |Waterfall would do the same. Waterfall's install file offers options for all varieties of Pentiums, the Celeron, the AMD K-6 family, and some Cyrix processors, but makes no mention of 486 chips. epbrown "Personally, I think all the world's problems have already been solved,=20 and people have decided they prefer the problems to the solutions." me - 6/13/96 The Comp.sys.laptops FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 03:54:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA18919 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 03:54:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02142; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 03:54:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 03:53:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02062; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 03:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02050; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 03:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (163.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.163]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA02161; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 03:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3603637D.EB8AC234@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 03:55:41 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Ford CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: [TPALL] Making CD-R's to replace need for floppies? References: <360298B0.F17249FC@aw.sgi.com> <199809181908.PAA03259@CS.UTK.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The recovery CD IBM offers (with machines usually) will restore the complete preload.. to make a CD with all the various driver updates is a good idea, which IBM used, for upgrading to win98.. the cost was $10.. the problem is that the updates change too often.. thus the d/l ability.. aka an FTP site.. :-) what you can do is make a CD of you current stable OS and then restore it.. there are considerations, but it can be done by anyone with the hardware and a bit of knowledge and patience.. Mike Ford wrote: > > >> This reminds me: Is it practical to make a CD-R that consists of all the > >> various IBM device driver install disks (hmm, is that what the Recovery CD > >> is?) that are available on their webpage? > >> > >> Also, how would one make a bootable CD-R? > > > >I've made a bootable cdrom the software we have > >(can't remember the name) lets you do just that. > >I can find it if you want. > > I have a Sony 926S CDR, and a Adaptec 358 EPP/SCSI, that I would love to > use to make a recovery CD for our 365XD. I would be happy just figuring out > how to make a backup this way. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 04:04:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA18984 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02617; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:03:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02496; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:03:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02484; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (163.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.163]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id EAA03030; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:03:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360365C0.6D4822D9@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:05:20 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bfink CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: [770] My repair saga ends References: <199809181526.KAA07902@dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bob.. bfink wrote: **snip** > > I even sort-of got my new HD to work. Anyone have pointers to > information on how to configure and install a 3.2g in the Ultrabay. > Someone said I had to use fdisk. What's that (said the 14-year Macintosh > veteran)? tell us what the problem is and what you want the second HDD to do.. i.e. just a second partition, an alternate boot device with a different OS or the same OS.. > > rwf > > PS: Anyone else considering going to FAT32 but not WIN98? Is it worth > it? Could I do it for only the new HD and leave the other drive the same? FAT32 will recognise FAT16, but not vice-versa.. AND/OR you must be running at least win95B 2.0 or 2.1 or 2.5 or, i think 2.6 or win98 > > bob > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Robert Fink | > Assistant Professor | "Mr. Rochberg's quartet is -- how > Dept of Musicology | did we used to put it? -- beauti- > UCLA | ful." > [Stanford Humanities Ctr., 98-99] | > | - Donal Henahan on > > CURRENT EMAIL: | Rochberg's 3rd > bfink@ix.netcom.com | > ________________________________________________________________________ -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 04:08:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA19003 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03040; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:08:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:07:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02901; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02861; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (163.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.163]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id EAA03374; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:07:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360366B9.F615D9DD@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:09:29 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lee Hetherington CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: new TP600 models References: <3601A033.8525454B@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Lee... Lee Hetherington wrote: > > There is now a new top-of-the-line TP600 with 300MHz mobile Pentium II. > To me, the interesting thing is that it only comes with a 5.1GB disk > instead of the 6.4GB disk that is available for upgrades (I have one > installed). The TP600 comes with Win98 or WinNT. it should be a 5.4gig, the 5.1gig is the 17mm version and would not fit the drive bay.. > > My 266MHz Pentium II is not the "mobile" variety. Is the mobile variety which P-II.. all thinkpads use the mobile module.. well, the 600 and the 770.. the earlier thinkpads used the TCP cpu.. (Tape Carrier Package) a TCP is like a postage stamp which IS the cpu.. :-) > much better with power management? Still, I get about 3h out of my > TP600 (usually running Linux), and this is with max backlight > brightness. > > --Lee Hetherington -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 05:19:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA19352 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 05:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03625; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:11:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03574; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:11:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03175; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (163.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.163]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id EAA03623; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3603675A.B02BAABC@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 04:12:10 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Hubbell CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: booting from a cd on TP760EL? References: <360298B0.F17249FC@aw.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Richard.. if the ez setup supports booting from a cd, then it will do so.. otherwise, no.. Richard Hubbell wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm new to the list and new to thinkpads. > > I've got a 760EL but no floppy and I'd like to be able to boot > from the cdrom. Are there some patches or a bios that'll > let me do this? I don't have a floppy for this thing and > they cost ~$160 so I want to avoid buying one if I can. > > Any suggestions or pointers welcome. > > I've searched the net and looked at FAQs but have had no > luck. > > Thanks, > Rick -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 10:13:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA20776 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:13:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17513; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:07:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17187; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.divms.uiowa.edu (server.divms.uiowa.edu [128.255.28.165]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17171; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:07:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tractor.cs.uiowa.edu (tractor.cs.uiowa.edu [128.255.28.65]) by server.divms.uiowa.edu with id JAA00768 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 09:07:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199809191407.JAA00768@server.divms.uiowa.edu> Subject: [TP560x] APM, Linux on TP560x works! To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 09:07:12 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: bonak@cs.uiowa.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Greetings everyone I've got some good news for anyone using Linux on the TP560x ... with the help of someone else I was able to get APM (incl hibernate) to work. I essentially followed the instructions found at: http://www.savina.com/~valerie/560x/ However I made one change Instead of # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_MULTIPLE_SUSPEND is not set I have CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_MULTIPLE_SUSPEND=y In addition to the settings in .config, there is also one change to apm_bios.c where #define APM_NOINTS was changed to #undef APM_NOINTS I have to thank valerie@savina.com for his help. So far everything is working great, suspend and hibernate. This really helps, because before I had worry about power since it was continuously draining the battery, the max time I got was about 7 or 8 hour w/o work and the battery would be dead. Esmail PS: Is the time-out period for suspend set in the IBM BIOS setup screen? ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 10:17:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA20808 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17735; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:17:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17648; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:17:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.divms.uiowa.edu (server.divms.uiowa.edu [128.255.28.165]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17635; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:16:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tractor.cs.uiowa.edu (tractor.cs.uiowa.edu [128.255.28.65]) by server.divms.uiowa.edu with id JAA01053 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 09:16:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199809191416.JAA01053@server.divms.uiowa.edu> Subject: TP, Linux, APM kills network connection? To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 09:16:55 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: bonak@cs.uiowa.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi Now that it seems that I can get APM to properly work on my TP560x I have come across a problem: Linux now doesn't seem to detect my pcmcia network card any longer. Has anyone else come across this problem? Seems to me I read something about this, but I can't find it. Before, when I plugged in my network card the system would detect its presence, and I could then activate it (by using the netcfg utility - does anyone know a nice command line command that I could use instead?), but now the system doesn't seem aware of the card at all. Suggestions anyone? Esmail PS: Please also mail me directly. ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 11:14:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA21174 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19084; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:13:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18932; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:13:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.divms.uiowa.edu (server.divms.uiowa.edu [128.255.28.165]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18919; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tractor.cs.uiowa.edu (tractor.cs.uiowa.edu [128.255.28.65]) by server.divms.uiowa.edu with id KAA02458; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:12:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199809191512.KAA02458@server.divms.uiowa.edu> Subject: [TP560] system slow (linux) [OLD THREAD] To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:12:53 -0500 (CDT) Cc: bergman@panix.com, ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu, kritchie@ritchie.msp.mn.us, rbell1@csc.com Reply-To: bonak@cs.uiowa.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hiya, some time back I posted a message on how I was surprized that my 233Mhz MMX processor in my TP560x seemed so slow compared to my 200Mhz PPro in my desktop. I think I figured out what the problem was: This all happened before I compiled in APM support into the Linux kernel. Apparently the TP560 decided it's processor speed during bootup and didn't change it. So when I booted it up without AC power it decided on a slower power mode and didn't change it when I plugged it in and vice versa. However, ever since I compiled in APM support things look much more than expected. Thanks for all the suggestions & comments ... Esmail > I was compiling the same set of files under RedHat 5.1 linux and it > takes my laptop much (much) longer to do this than my desktop, even > though the laptop has faster processor. The laptop is attached to > the > ac outlet i.e., it's not on battery power. > > laptop (TP560x) desktop (GW PPro200) > ------------------------------------------------ > CPU 233Mhz MMX 200Mhz PPro > RAM 96MB 96MB > BogoMips 101.58 199.07 > > Time > to > Compile 13min 23sec 3min 39sec > > There has to be something wrong, no? Seems to me I must be running > in > slow-poke mode. How can I get to super-duper turbo mode? I ought to > be > able to do much bettter right? > > Under Win95 I configured full cpu power when attached to the AC (via > the TP config program). > > Something odd going on here ... ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 13:24:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA22439 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:24:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21428; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:21:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21269; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21250; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14221 invoked by uid 66); 19 Sep 1998 17:19:54 -0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: Wake up! SXGA display Date: 19 Sep 1998 17:04:44 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 15 Message-ID: <6u0o7c$akf$2@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <199809130550.WAA07857@netcom18.netcom.com> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971215 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i486)) List-Unsubscribe: Paul Rubin wrote: > DINNNGGGG!!! I just heard via a Usenet post that the Thinkpad > 770X will be released next month, with a 14", 1280x1024 display > with 24 bit color! CPU is a 300 MHz PII. No other specs, price, > etc. were mentioned. Info is supposedly from some web magazine. http://www.webshopper.com/jhtml/news.jhtml?aid=177792&src=nlCI0915c -- A recent study has found that concentrating on difficult off-screen objects, such as the faces of loved ones, causes eye strain in computer scientists. Researchers into the phenomenon cite the added concentration needed to "make sense" of such unnatural three dimensional objects ... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 13:42:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA22737 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22002; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:40:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:38:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21889; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21877; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA14032; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 12:36:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809191736.MAA14032@dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ali-ca1-01.ix.netcom.com(209.110.224.1) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma013989; Sat Sep 19 12:35:46 1998 Subject: Re: [770] My repair saga ends Date: Sat, 19 Sep 98 10:35:46 -0700 x-sender: bfink@popd.ix.netcom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: bfink To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" cc: "thinkpad" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: >> >> I even sort-of got my new HD to work. Anyone have pointers to >> information on how to configure and install a 3.2g in the Ultrabay. >> Someone said I had to use fdisk. What's that (said the 14-year Macintosh >> veteran)? >tell us what the problem is and what you want the second HDD to do.. >i.e. just a second partition, an alternate boot device with a different >OS or the same OS.. > > Just another partition, not bootable, for backup, etc. The problem after using fdisk and creating 2 partitions (1 "DOS" as I recall, one "extended") was that upon reboot, the OS remapped some of the drive letters, and some of the new "drives" would not open (got the "not ready" dialog). What I expected: 5.1g Drive 1 = C: D: E: 3.2g Drive 2 = F: G: What I got 5.1g Drive 1 = C: ok; D had become E:; D was unreadable 3.2g Drive 2 = F: (the DOS partition?); G was unreadable It's quite possible I misused fdisk, or there is some obvious way to make sure the virtual drive letters come out the way you want. Any tenderfoot help is appreciated. >> >> PS: Anyone else considering going to FAT32 but not WIN98? Is it worth >> it? Could I do it for only the new HD and leave the other drive the same? >FAT32 will recognise FAT16, but not vice-versa.. >AND/OR you must be running at least win95B 2.0 or 2.1 or 2.5 or, i think >2.6 or win98 > You see the point: if the new drive is formatted under FAT32, it could be one big partition, take up only one drive letter, and perhaps the problem would go away. (Yeah, right.) I have WIN95 OSR2--but I didn't know there were versions of that; presumably my OS is FAT32 capable, since fdisk asked me if I wanted to use it on the new drive (I now retroactively realize; ). The OS will see both FAT16 and FAT32 drives, right? And let you copy files between them and all? Or are you saying that if the C: drive is FAT16, all the drives must be...? oy--at least the machine doesn't crash every 3 minutes! rwf ________________________________________________________________________ Robert Fink | Assistant Professor | "Mr. Rochberg's quartet is -- how Dept of Musicology | did we used to put it? -- beauti- UCLA | ful." [Stanford Humanities Ctr., 98-99] | | - Donal Henahan on CURRENT EMAIL: | Rochberg's 3rd bfink@ix.netcom.com | ________________________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 14:05:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA22930 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:05:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22609; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:01:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22485; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (root@tam.dorsai.org [206.127.32.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22471; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA19835 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:03:35 -0400 (EDT) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id OAA23151 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809191803.OAA23151@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Silence II!!! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:03:33 -0400 (edt) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ok, I'm not quite as stupid as it seemed. After turning the volume down my TP 560e still beeps and farts when starting up and shutting down. I think I found a way to kill the battery alarm and suspend flatuence. How do I kill *all* the beeps. I was again embarassed starting up etc on the Metroliner last night.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins Broadcasting & Cable Magazine higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 14:31:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA23160 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:31:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23305; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:28:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23149; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from snail.ecs.umass.edu (snail.ecs.umass.edu [128.119.91.94]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23136; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu (rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu [128.119.71.47]) by snail.ecs.umass.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA00491 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BDE3D9.E3A03E20@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu>; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:29:20 -0400 Message-ID: <01BDE3D9.E3A03E20@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu> From: Axel Hartmann To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Silence II!!! Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:29:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I don't know if this may work, but an old workaround for such cases is to insert an empty headphone jack into the receptical. Don't short the circuit, though... it is a very quick way to mute when quake and the boss overlap... I have a feeling though that the system beeper is independent of that... my office mate's TP 600 sends our hamsters scurrying for cover every time he boots up ;-) axel On Saturday, September 19, 1998 2:03 PM, John Higgins wrote: %Ok, I'm not quite as stupid as it seemed. After turning the volume down my %TP 560e still beeps and farts when starting up and shutting down. I think %I found a way to kill the battery alarm and suspend flatuence. How do I %kill *all* the beeps. I was again embarassed starting up etc on the %Metroliner last night.... ............................................................................ . Axel Hartmann . . Paper'n'People : 33 Meadow Street; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . . Voice : +1 (413) 549 - 6113 , Fax on demand . ............................................................................ . Office : Dept. of Chemical Engineering; UMass; Amherst, MA 01003 . . Office Phone : +1 (413) 577 - 1235 Fax: +1 (413) 545 - 1649 . . E-Mail : axhartma@risky.ecs.umass.edu . . Homepage : http://rheoserver.pse.umass.edu/users/axel/index.html . ............................................................................ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 14:55:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA23334 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:55:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23945; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:54:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23825; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:54:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23813; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA27394 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:54:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:54:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad Subject: Re: [770] My repair saga ends In-Reply-To: <199809191736.MAA14032@dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 19 Sep 1998, bfink wrote: > > Just another partition, not bootable, for backup, etc. The problem after > using fdisk and creating 2 partitions (1 "DOS" as I recall, one > "extended") was that upon reboot, the OS remapped some of the drive > letters, and some of the new "drives" would not open (got the "not ready" > dialog). > > What I expected: 5.1g Drive 1 = C: D: E: > 3.2g Drive 2 = F: G: > > What I got 5.1g Drive 1 = C: ok; D had become E:; D was unreadable > 3.2g Drive 2 = F: (the DOS partition?); G was > unreadable Normally, when you have two drives, all primary partitions are assigned letters first, then the logical partitions. So if you had Drive 1 = (primary) (logical) (logical) Drive 2 = (primary) (logical) You'd wind up with: Drive 1 = (primary) = C: (logical) = E: (logical) = F: Drive 2 = (primary) = D: (logical) = G: Yes, I know it's stupid - doing it this way means adding a second drive changes the letters on the first drive's logical drives, making programs and OSes on your first drive unusuable. But tell Microsoft that. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 19 22:28:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA27667 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01802; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:27:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01662; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:27:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucy.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01650; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:27:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anna.az.com (anna.az.com [204.57.139.9]) by lucy.az.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23680; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 19:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 19:29:14 -0700 (PDT) From: LightSide To: John Higgins cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Silence II!!! In-Reply-To: <199809191803.OAA23151@amanda.dorsai.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 19 Sep 1998, John Higgins wrote: > Ok, I'm not quite as stupid as it seemed. After turning the volume down my > TP 560e still beeps and farts when starting up and shutting down. I think > I found a way to kill the battery alarm and suspend flatuence. How do I > kill *all* the beeps. I was again embarassed starting up etc on the > Metroliner last night.... This may sound weird (or dumb in my case), but could you place a rather thick piece of material over the speaker and remove it when you close the screen? Would that work as a temporary kludge? I know you'd prefer unplugging the speaker. Robert From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 20 02:16:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA00435 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 02:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06841; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 02:16:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 20 Sep 1998 02:14:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06652; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 02:14:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06638; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 02:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (pkhoury@p04.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.73]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA26722; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809200611.XAA26722@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "John H. Kim" Date: Sat, 19 Sep 98 23:12:28 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: RAIN and WATERFALL...is it functional/good for 486's? List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:13:53 -0400 (EDT), John H. Kim wrote: >On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, Love and Jones Webmaster wrote: > >> As some of you know, I have a 755CD-4ZF. This is a 486DX4-100. >> On the documentation pages for the above cooling programs, I see no >> mention of the "legacy" processors, only Pentiums. My baby does > >My guess is these programs use the halt instruction on the >CPU. Basically, they should work with anything after a 486SL >processor (used in the TP750). That includes most of the >DX2's and all the DX4's. Intel abandoned the SL (low-power) >architecture and just integrated most of the power-saving >features into all their processors from that point on. > >NT, OS/2, and Linux all provide support for this instruction >inherently. But since you found these programs, you must be >using DOS or Win95. :-) Running them should make the CPU run >about as cool as under NT, OS/2, or Linux. > NT? I don't know about the CPU being that cool. Linux or OS/2 I can understand in most circumstances. Unfortunately, even in Linux, my ThinkPad 300 gets really hot on AC or warm on battery, despite having a 386SL-25. >I don't know yet if Win98 supports the halt instruction. If >it does and you're using Win98, running these programs won't >help. I doubt it. It's probably just a newer revision of DOS underneath./ -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 20 02:19:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA00459 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 02:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07061; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 02:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 20 Sep 1998 02:17:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06872; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 02:17:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06857; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 02:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (pkhoury@p04.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.73]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA26812 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809200614.XAA26812@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 19 Sep 98 23:15:35 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP701: Disk sharing on Warp 4? List-Unsubscribe: I don't know why, but I can't get file and print sharing on Warp 4 on my 701. Is there any known problems with getting it to work? I'm thinking about going back to Warp 3 on my new HD when it arrives, but I really like some of the new features in Warp 4. Thanks. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 20 06:00:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA02065 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 05:59:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA19103; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 05:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 20 Sep 1998 05:57:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA18846; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 05:57:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from merkez.cypronet.net (root@[195.174.91.242]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA18834; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 05:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cypronet.net ([193.192.124.6]) by merkez.cypronet.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13389 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:54:18 +0300 Message-ID: <3604D1A6.8853034D@cypronet.net> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:57:58 +0300 From: ThomasPARKHILL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [tp380d] system management dd error (warp) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: When a click on the system information icon under the ThinkPad Configuration icon using Warp 4 (with fixpack 7 installed, bios upgraded, newest video, audio, and thinkpad configuration versions installed) I get the following error message: Error: ThinkPad System Management Device Driver (AODBSMD.SYS) is not properly installed. Not only is it not _properly_ installed, it's nowhere on the harddrive (standard 380D size, around one gig). I can find it and a file called aodbsmd.ddp on the installation diskette, but it's not on the harddrive or in my config.sys. I'm really working (for 2 months now) on a 3com combo card problem (more of this in another message perhaps) but on the way to solving that one, I'm wondering if this is a significant problem, perhaps related to my larger (3com card) problem. This message does not occur on the Win95 partition -- I get accurate system information instead. What should a proper AODBSMD.SYS installation look like? What's in the config.sys? Where do the two AODBSMD files go, and what do they do? Thanks, Thom. P.S. This 380D is standard but for the 48 megs of RAM. This means it has a floppy and CDROM built in. It has a Pentium chip, running at 150Mhz. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 20 11:31:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA03718 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:31:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24211; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:28:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23750; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:28:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23738; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:28:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256685.00552C0B ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 10:30:18 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: kim@stormhaven.org cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256685.0054CADC.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 10:29:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [770] My repair saga ends Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: >You'd wind up with: > >Drive 1 = (primary) = C: (logical) = E: (logical) = F: >Drive 2 = (primary) = D: (logical) = G: > >Yes, I know it's stupid - doing it this way means adding a >second drive changes the letters on the first drive's logical >drives, making programs and OSes on your first drive >unusuable. But tell Microsoft that. The way around that is to not create a primary partition on the second drive. But FDISK wont let you do that, so another tool must be used, like OS/2's fdisk or Partition magic. Is there a simpler DOS based utility to do this? Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 20 11:31:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA03724 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24213; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:31:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:30:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23909; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23897; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:30:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256685.005561D4 ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 10:32:36 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: robertm@az.com cc: higgins@dorsai.org, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256685.005532A9.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 10:31:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Silence II!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: >This may sound weird (or dumb in my case), but could you place a rather thick piece of material over the speaker and >remove it when you close the screen? Would that work as a temporary kludge? I know you'd prefer unplugging the >speaker. > >Robert The TP560's speaker is imbedded under the keyboard. Covering it would make the system difficult to use ;-). Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 20 20:42:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA07765 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:42:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08018; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:40:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07775; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Altitude.CAM.ORG (Altitude.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07749; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cam.org (Dialup-749.HIP.CAM.ORG [199.84.45.244]) by Altitude.CAM.ORG (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA19536 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:39:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3605A092.3A1607D6@cam.org> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:40:51 -0400 From: Richard Berdych X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Fuel Program Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi kids! Let me begin by saying that you folks are the owners of the coolest damn computing machines available to mankind. Bar none. I've got a TP560 running Win 95. I've got what I think is the latest version of the Thinkpad Configuration program (v4.12). While this version is *infinitely* better than the previous ones, it does have one annoying feature: The Fuel program shows up on the taskbar like any other minimized app. Anyone else find this annoying? Isn't the battery icon in the tray enough? I've diddled around with the window options, but to no avail. If anyone knows how to get Fuel to behave like the background utility it is, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks a bunch, Richard berdych@cam.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 20 23:26:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA10581 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16019; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:22:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15821; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.asb.com (unix.asb.com [165.254.128.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15805; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls17.asb.com (sls17.asb.com [165.254.128.27]) by unix.asb.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA21190 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:42:27 -0400 (EDT) From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) To: thinkpad Subject: 128 MB modules in 770ED Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:21:56 GMT Reply-To: christij@unix.asb.com Message-ID: <3612c554.40219850@unix.asb.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Anybody had any luck running 2 of these together in a 770ed? I have 2 Simple 128mb modules and keep getting a blue screen under Win95. The address is the same with the modules in either slot and both seem to work fine individually with the 32mb module which leads me to believe it is not a bad module causing the problem. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 423B78C80FEA5495 CF64AD5F214797DE http://www.asb.com/usr/christij 95E3789C5679C4D7 03210B57E76FE66 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 00:46:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA11556 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 00:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18221; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 00:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 00:44:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18007; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 00:43:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17995; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 00:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (pkhoury@p07.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.76]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA02787 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809210441.VAA02787@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sun, 20 Sep 98 21:42:19 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TPALL: Home & Away adapters List-Unsubscribe: Does anybody know where I can possibly get 2 Home & Away adapters CHEAP (like $20, or less)? I'm getting rid of my Pentium 66 in favor of lower power ThinkPads (as well as other reasons), so I'd need 2 LAN adapters to connect them to the network. I already have 1 extra one, but I'm probably going to get a TP350CS, a TP701CS, and a TP750 (not to mention I'm getting rid of an existing ThinkPad, my 710T, and some other stuff). Also, can I use the battery from a 355/360 in a 750? I suppose that the floppy and hard drive is the same. Thanks. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 01:20:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA12026 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18946; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:18:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18813; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:18:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucy.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18801; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anna.az.com (anna.az.com [204.57.139.9]) by lucy.az.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00224 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 22:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 22:21:13 -0700 (PDT) From: LightSide To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Memory leak?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I'm not sure if this is a thinkpad problem or not, but does anyone know why Windows 95 (OSR 2) would have 88% resources free after boot up, and when you run MS Word 97, type in about have a page typed in (and run spell check) it would report it's out of memory? I have 40megs of memory on my 365XD, and with a P-133 that should be enough to run it under. Anyone else run into this problem? I kept trying a little at a time (typing) and it kept slipping. I got it down to 25% free but could only get it reset by rebooting. Robert From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 01:36:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA12155 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19458; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:36:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:34:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19292; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sh1.ro.com (sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19272; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:34:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from socrates (ts1p13.ro.com [205.216.92.33]) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA23204 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 00:34:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199809210534.AAA23204@sh1.ro.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 98 00:30:30 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3604D1A6.8853034D@cypronet.net> Subject: Re: [tp380d] system management dd error (warp) X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.46a b46 List-Unsubscribe: ThomasPARKHILL said the following on the auspicious date of 98-09-20: >When a click on the system information icon under the ThinkPad >Configuration icon using Warp 4 (with fixpack 7 installed, bios upgraded, >newest video, audio, and thinkpad configuration versions installed) I get >the following error message: >Error: ThinkPad System Management Device Driver (AODBSMD.SYS) is not >properly installed. That driver is included on one of the floppies with ThinkPad related software for OS/2. I think the disk has an install program, but the System Management Device Driver is not installed by it. Instead, its installed by the device driver installer in the System Setup -> install/remove folder. I missed it the first time through, too. Alternatively, I think you can just copy the file and put a "DEVICE=\AODBSMD.SYS" in your config.sys. -------------------------------------------------- Windows95 -- An entomologist's dream Jeff Jackowski http://ro.com/~jeffj/ OS/2 WPS (Desktop) Tips, remote i-net dialup "Luncheon meats make the sawdust in your stomach explode." -- Crow T. Robot From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 03:09:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA12972 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21567; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:07:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21388; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:07:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21376; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (171.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.171]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA02483; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3605FBA0.A8534E65@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:09:20 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bfink CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: [770] My repair saga ends References: <199809191736.MAA14032@dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I think it has been explained before hereabouts, BUT.. :-) to have ANY possibility of success with scenario no. 1 will require that the 2nd HDD be an EXTENDED DOS partition.. you would use FDISK to make the drive thus, but first you will need to delete the current partitions.. if you wish, i'll talk you through it.. you'll need to send me an e-mail or go to my web site for my tel #.. bfink wrote: > > >> > >> I even sort-of got my new HD to work. Anyone have pointers to > >> information on how to configure and install a 3.2g in the Ultrabay. > >> Someone said I had to use fdisk. What's that (said the 14-year Macintosh > >> veteran)? > >tell us what the problem is and what you want the second HDD to do.. > >i.e. just a second partition, an alternate boot device with a different > >OS or the same OS.. > > > > > Just another partition, not bootable, for backup, etc. The problem after > using fdisk and creating 2 partitions (1 "DOS" as I recall, one > "extended") was that upon reboot, the OS remapped some of the drive > letters, and some of the new "drives" would not open (got the "not ready" > dialog). > > What I expected: 5.1g Drive 1 = C: D: E: > 3.2g Drive 2 = F: G: > > What I got 5.1g Drive 1 = C: ok; D had become E:; D was unreadable > 3.2g Drive 2 = F: (the DOS partition?); G was > unreadable > > It's quite possible I misused fdisk, or there is some obvious way to make > sure the virtual drive letters come out the way you want. Any tenderfoot > help is appreciated. > > >> > >> PS: Anyone else considering going to FAT32 but not WIN98? Is it worth > >> it? Could I do it for only the new HD and leave the other drive the same? > >FAT32 will recognise FAT16, but not vice-versa.. > >AND/OR you must be running at least win95B 2.0 or 2.1 or 2.5 or, i think > >2.6 or win98 > > > > You see the point: if the new drive is formatted under FAT32, it could > be one big partition, take up only one drive letter, and perhaps the > problem would go away. (Yeah, right.) > > I have WIN95 OSR2--but I didn't know there were versions of that; > presumably my OS is FAT32 capable, since fdisk asked me if I wanted to > use it on the new drive (I now retroactively realize; ). The OS > will see both FAT16 and FAT32 drives, right? And let you copy files > between them and all? Or are you saying that if the C: drive is FAT16, > all the drives must be...? > > oy--at least the machine doesn't crash every 3 minutes! > > rwf > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Robert Fink | > Assistant Professor | "Mr. Rochberg's quartet is -- how > Dept of Musicology | did we used to put it? -- beauti- > UCLA | ful." > [Stanford Humanities Ctr., 98-99] | > | - Donal Henahan on > > CURRENT EMAIL: | Rochberg's 3rd > bfink@ix.netcom.com | > ________________________________________________________________________ -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 03:18:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA13039 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:18:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22161; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:16:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21955; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21941; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (171.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.171]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA03296; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3605FDBC.8F69453D@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:18:20 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: christij@unix.asb.com CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: 128 MB modules in 770ED References: <3612c554.40219850@unix.asb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Joe.. i have seen anomolies with two 128meg modules.. the 770ED preload gives a blue death screen but once through these two blue meanies i can run explorer and all seems OK.. winNT4 runs wonderfully.. it really likes all that memory.. this behaviour is suspiciously similar to the original 770 memory bug.. same symptoms.. unlimately it required a system board mod, i think.. i will remaine silent on my opinion of simple technology.. Joseph Christie wrote: > > Anybody had any luck running 2 of these together in a 770ed? I have 2 Simple > 128mb modules and keep getting a blue screen under Win95. The address is the > same with the modules in either slot and both seem to work fine individually > with the 32mb module which leads me to believe it is not a bad module causing > the problem. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 423B78C80FEA5495 CF64AD5F214797DE > http://www.asb.com/usr/christij 95E3789C5679C4D7 03210B57E76FE66 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it > is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I > am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 03:20:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA13071 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:20:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22675; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:18:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22280; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22249; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:18:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (171.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.171]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA03521; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3605FE49.99755AEA@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:20:41 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich_Chong@mail.share.org CC: kim@stormhaven.org, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [770] My repair saga ends References: <86256685.0054CADC.00@passnotes.share.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: sorry to be brief, but use fduisk and make the 2nd HDD an EXTENDED DOS drive.. this is one reason i favor single partitions on HDD's.. :-) Rich_Chong@mail.share.org wrote: > > >You'd wind up with: > > > >Drive 1 = (primary) = C: (logical) = E: (logical) = F: > >Drive 2 = (primary) = D: (logical) = G: > > > >Yes, I know it's stupid - doing it this way means adding a > >second drive changes the letters on the first drive's logical > >drives, making programs and OSes on your first drive > >unusuable. But tell Microsoft that. > > The way around that is to not create a primary partition on the second > drive. But FDISK wont let you do that, so another tool must be used, like > OS/2's fdisk or Partition magic. Is there a simpler DOS based utility to do > this? > > Rich -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 770-1AU(5.1gig, 256meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 06:00:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA14584 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 06:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03687; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 05:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 05:57:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03441; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 05:57:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from merkez.cypronet.net (root@[195.174.91.242]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03421; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 05:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cypronet.net ([193.192.124.13]) by merkez.cypronet.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA30713; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:54:19 +0300 Message-ID: <3606222F.315489AC@cypronet.net> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:53:51 +0300 From: ThomasPARKHILL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jeffj@ro.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, sbogum@voicenet.com Subject: Re: [tp380d] system management dd error (warp) References: <199809210534.AAA23204@sh1.ro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I solved the improperly loaded aodbsmd.sys problem by using the system setup install/remove folder to install this as a device driver. I had simply used the install2.exe on the tp configuration disk, thinking that would do it. Strangely, just adding either device=c:\os2\aodbsmd.sys or basedev=c:\os2\aodbsmd.sys and copying the related files to c:\os2 did not do it. I can't imagine why. Thanks to all who helped with this! Thom. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 09:02:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA16772 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:02:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07881; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:02:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:56:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07552; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07539; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-23.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.23]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id IAA19879; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980921085812.0069b820@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:58:12 -0400 To: LightSide , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Memory leak?? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:21 PM 9/20/98 -0700, LightSide wrote: > >Hello, >I'm not sure if this is a thinkpad problem or not, but does anyone know >why Windows 95 (OSR 2) would have 88% resources free after boot up, and >when you run MS Word 97, type in about have a page typed in (and run >spell check) it would report it's out of memory? > >I have 40megs of memory on my 365XD, and with a P-133 that should be >enough to run it under. I ran into this problem once before with a client. Word and Excel kept minimizing and after short term use, would report out of memory problems. This was on a P2-400 with 128megs of memory and 6 gigs open of HD space. ;) I ended up reinstalling it and it worked fine. But just to be on the safe side, did you check your swapfile settings? If you are letting Win95 manage them, did you check how much HD space you have left open? ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 10:10:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA17584 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11156; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:09:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11046; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11029; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:09:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-223-139.usc.edu [128.125.223.139]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id HAA13668; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809211409.HAA13668@almaak.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:08:10 -0700 To: Richard Berdych , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Fuel Program In-Reply-To: <3605A092.3A1607D6@cam.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:40 PM 9/20/98 -0400, you wrote: >I've got a TP560 running Win 95. I've got what >I think is the latest version of the Thinkpad >Configuration program (v4.12). While this >The Fuel program shows up on the taskbar >like any other minimized app. Anyone else >find this annoying? Isn't the battery icon in >the tray enough? I've diddled around with >the window options, but to no avail. > >If anyone knows how to get Fuel to behave >like the background utility it is, I'd love to When it is up, use the function utility (I think its FN + F2--whatever button has the little "Battery" icon on it). That will put the battery utility in an unassuming position, invisible but present in memory. A repeat FN + F2 key combo will bring it back up if you want a look. Meanwhile, it keeps it off of your taskbar. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 11:53:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA19232 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16097; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:53:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:50:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15856; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:50:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15829; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:49:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256686.0057255D ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:51:51 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: penzance@icanect.net cc: kim@stormhaven.org, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256686.0056125F.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:51:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [770] My repair saga ends Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Bill, I assume you mean fdisk and not fduisk ;-). I was Incorrect about not being able to create an extended partition, without a primary defined, using FDISK. To clarify Bill's briefness, an EXTENDED DOS drive is just a drive without any primary partitions. Just use FDISK to create an extended partition and then a logical drive(s) within that partition (i.e. logical partitions). fwiw, that extended partition will be a tad shorter than the maximum size of the drive, because the extended partition cannot reside on the first track (or cylinder?) of the drive. rich >sorry to be brief, but use fduisk and make the 2nd HDD an EXTENDED DOS drive.. > >this is one reason i favor single partitions on HDD's.. :-) > >Rich_Chong@mail.share.org wrote: >> >> >You'd wind up with: >> > > >>Drive 1 = (primary) = C: (logical) = E: (logical) = F: >> >Drive 2 = (primary) = D: (logical) = G: >> > > >>Yes, I know it's stupid - doing it this way means adding a >> >second drive changes the letters on the first drive's logical >> >drives, making programs and OSes on your first drive > >>unusuable. But tell Microsoft that. >> >> The way around that is to not create a primary partition on the second >> drive. But FDISK wont let you do that, so another tool must be used, like > OS/2's fdisk or Partition magic. Is there a simpler DOS based utility to do > this? >> >> Rich > >-- >Happy Trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 13:44:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA20980 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22609; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:43:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:41:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22441; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22423; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (turgut@bbsturk.bbs.tr [155.223.17.45]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA30161; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:42:19 +0400 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199809211642.UAA30161@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "penzance@icanect.net" Cc: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 19 Sep 98 19:40:35 +0200 Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP600: 3d? List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I once read some blurb about TP600 being '3d' compatible. However, a game that requires 3dfx failed to run with TP600. Does anyone know the truth? :) thanks, -turgut - --------------------- Turgut Kalfaoglu, Manager, EgeNet Internet Services http://bbsturk.bbs.tr http://www.egenet.com.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNgRA8zJjYwErN0xZAQF6qQQAjH/DRJD1MjT4Ce1sL7FA52RXzjUC/Te/ W27qId9xzRP7KcCnjofQ8inEBAtBjgZYSQNf3sx1TyiN3LU68yHA5HWQQHtrYLd8 Zkr2Uf3ZRDbBiQ/vNYFOK+LTL0Y4MCPKMwljvSriY4Et9JqQGAjnZoL1BqeDARoD rQ+FBv3NaUI= =mx4Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 13:49:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA21131 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22993; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:49:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22898; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:49:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22885; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:48:16 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id NAA26439 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:47:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36069142.8C9FAEEB@csc.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:47:46 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad Subject: Re: [770] My repair saga ends References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: With NT you can specify the drive letters of each partition. Win95 (and probably Win98) don't allow the user to control the assignment. HTH, Rob John H. Kim wrote: > > Normally, when you have two drives, all primary partitions are > assigned letters first, then the logical partitions. ------------------------------------------ Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rbell1@nospam@csc.com ------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 17:38:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA24427 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07131; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:33:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06956; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06944; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm ([12.79.13.237]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980921213301.RTZB1217@ibm>; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:33:01 +0000 Message-ID: <3606C56B.7843@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:30:20 -0400 From: Bruce Markowtz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: Emanuel Brown , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: [TPALL] Making CD-R's to replace need for floppies? References: <199809211928.MAA28599@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: How do you make a PCMCIA drive bootable? It is in the bios of a 760ED, but culd never get it to work! Paul Khoury wrote: > > > This seems like it would be probable to me, based on one thing: > >does anyone know how the ability to boot from the pc card slot works? > >If the slot works by activating the slot, then looking for an IDE or > >EIDE device, it seems to me that it should be possible to boot a > >system using a bootable CD and an IDE CD-ROM or external IDE drive. > >I've been curious if this is possible, but IBM's techs don't seem to > >know and my CD-ROM is 1) SCSI and 2) I don't have a bootable CD. I've > >got an external drive, but it works of the parallel port rather than > >pc card slots. But something tells me this might be possible, and it > >seems worth trying if someone's got the appropriate hardware. > > Nope, not possible. You could boot off a SCSI CD-ROM on hardware that supports > it, like the more modern machines, and EIDE is becoming more common, but > not off a parallel port. You'd have to impliment firmware in the BIOS to do that, and > also for a specific device, and that could get kinda dirty... > > > My own solution is a PCMCIA Type III drive. I've got a 131MB Maxtor > >loaded with all the .cab files and a lot of other crap that originally > >came on my IBM 560, and before it was loaded I formatted the drive as > >a system drive, making it bootable. I can totally wipe my C: drive and > >have everything back to normal within 45 minutes or so. This is a rare > >solution, though, as most folks don't have high capacity pc card > >drives lying around (I've got a Viper 340 double-spaced as well). > > But what I'm wondering is why someone would want to reinstall EVERYTHING because > it takes so quick? I've only installed Warp 4 on my TP701 three times (taking 6 hours > each time with 100 floppies), but now it works great and I never need to reinstall > (except for Java and resource sharing). > > And again about booting from other devices, it all depends on the BIOS. If it's not in the BIOS, > then you'd probably need a floppy disk with drives for your CD-ROM or PCMCIA HD. > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 18:05:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA24738 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:05:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02704; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:11:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02537; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02500; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA12690 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:11:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:11:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: [Thinkpad] Panasonic 4x CD-ROM for sale In-Reply-To: <199809211928.MAA28599@ritchie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: This is the KXL-D740 model. I bought it about a year and a half ago. Blurb on its features are listed on this page: http://www.mcglen.com/product/CD_ROM_Drives/pnd740rf.htm In a nutshell: - 4x, external, slim - AC or battery powered (AC adapter is *tiny*) - PCMCIA SCSI-2 adapter, cable w/ standard SCSI-2 connector - SCSI-2 in and out ports in back of drive for daisychaining - volume control, headphone jack, etc. for playing audio CDs - I'll have to check the warranty, I thought it was 1 year but the above site lists it as 2 years. All box, manuals, disks, and probably original sales receipt included. The SCSI adapter is based on the QLogic chipset, which works with Linux. But there's a bug in the driver (apparent only with this card) which requires a one-character fix to the source on some computers. That essentially means I can't use this CD-ROM drive to install Linux (unless I want to create my own install disks). Since I can access all my SCSI stuff from my desktop machine, and I can do a network install for Linux, I have no more use for this drive. CDW lists a patch as being needed for this drive to work with a TP560 or 760: http://www.cdw.com/techsupport/knowledgebase/solutions/panasonic%20cdrom%20ibm.htm Buyer pays shipping, best offer over $50 (current bid for the same model used drive on ebay is $51, and www.shopper.com lists the lowest price new as $100). Oh. Yes, it works. :-) -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 18:07:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA24763 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29973; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:35:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:33:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29624; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29531; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA28603; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809211928.MAA28603@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Ken" , "Thinkpad" Date: Sun, 20 Sep 98 11:09:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TPALL] Making CD-R's to replace need for floppies? List-Unsubscribe: >Also, how would one make a bootable CD-R? > On the recovery CD for my 701, IBM just zipped up the entire HD from 2 versions of their 701, the DX2 and DX4 versions, and then reinstalls it, including the attributes for system files. >I'd like to have a recoverable system, and it seems wise to hold onto all >the device driver disks, but I don't want to actually hold onto that many >floppies. > Yeah, especially if one of the floppies goes bad. Don't you hate it when that happens? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 18:17:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA24899 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09066; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:11:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:11:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08950; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terror.mcmurdo.gov (root@terror.mcmurdo.gov [157.132.107.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08928; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from h169-s103.mcmurdo.gov (h033-s204.mcmurdo.gov [157.132.204.33]) by terror.mcmurdo.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02480 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:54:24 GMT Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:54:19 +1200 From: Peter Lund To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP770 - Audio] Message-ID: <219960378.906458059@h169-s103.mcmurdo.gov> Originator-Info: login-id=pml; server=terror.mcmurdo.gov X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.0b4, s/n U-300986] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Hello, Has anyone had problems getting the sound to function fully while using MechWarrior II? Symptoms are that there are no voice-overs but everything else seems to work. I've not had any other sound related problems with any other program, game or otherwise, which leads me to believe that it's a problem with MechWarrior. Be that as it may, it would be really nice to be able to play the game with all the features in tact. Thanks, Peter Configuration: ThinkPad 770ED 64MB RAM Windows 95 DirectX 6.0 (tried previously with 5x) MechWarrior II v1.1 IBM Audio Features v2.60 -- Peter Lund Network Administrator -- mailto:pml@io.com Antarctic Support Associates -- Currently residing at McMurdo Station http://www.io.com/~pml/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 19:24:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA25792 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:24:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11351; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:19:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11228; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torgo.punk.net (torgo.punk.net [207.114.150.54]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11209; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by torgo.punk.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA01340; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:24:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:24:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: "John H. Kim" cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Panasonic 4x CD-ROM for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 21 Sep 1998, John H. Kim wrote: > This is the KXL-D740 model. I bought it about a year and a > half ago. Blurb on its features are listed on this page: > > CDW lists a patch as being needed for this drive to work with > a TP560 or 760: FWIW, I have the same drive and SCSI adapter and it works fine on my TP560-120. There was a note in the box stating that it only works in the lower PCMCIA slot of a TP560, and it works fine in that slot for me. I'd buy it if I didn't already have one. =) I have an early TP560-120 with 12.1" TFT if it makes any difference. I bought mine earlier this year for ~$120. It is no speed demon, but it has been adequate for my needs. =) ============================================================================ ==== Help crack RC5 64-bit encryption -- http://www.distributed.net/rc5 ==== ============================================================================ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 21:09:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA27189 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:09:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15565; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:02:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15187; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15170; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com (atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com [144.253.1.35]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id SAA09053 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:00:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rhubbell@aw.sgi.com) Received: from aw.sgi.com by atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA04056; Sender: rick@aw.sgi.com Message-ID: <3606F70D.F9A645F3@aw.sgi.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:02:05 -0700 From: Richard Hubbell Organization: Alias|Wavefront X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: booting from network on TP760EL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: What is required to boot from the net? A bootp server? Can I boot from a redhat linux cd? Or does it have to be something more generic like DOS or windows? I'd like to boot to the redhat linux install diskette. But I'm not sure what exactly the TP760EL is looking for to boot from the net. Thanks, Rick From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 22:04:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA27833 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29966; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:33:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29601; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29588; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:33:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA28599; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809211928.MAA28599@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Emanuel Brown" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 20 Sep 98 11:07:44 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TPALL] Making CD-R's to replace need for floppies? List-Unsubscribe: > This seems like it would be probable to me, based on one thing: >does anyone know how the ability to boot from the pc card slot works? >If the slot works by activating the slot, then looking for an IDE or >EIDE device, it seems to me that it should be possible to boot a >system using a bootable CD and an IDE CD-ROM or external IDE drive. >I've been curious if this is possible, but IBM's techs don't seem to >know and my CD-ROM is 1) SCSI and 2) I don't have a bootable CD. I've >got an external drive, but it works of the parallel port rather than >pc card slots. But something tells me this might be possible, and it >seems worth trying if someone's got the appropriate hardware. Nope, not possible. You could boot off a SCSI CD-ROM on hardware that supports it, like the more modern machines, and EIDE is becoming more common, but not off a parallel port. You'd have to impliment firmware in the BIOS to do that, and also for a specific device, and that could get kinda dirty... > My own solution is a PCMCIA Type III drive. I've got a 131MB Maxtor >loaded with all the .cab files and a lot of other crap that originally >came on my IBM 560, and before it was loaded I formatted the drive as >a system drive, making it bootable. I can totally wipe my C: drive and >have everything back to normal within 45 minutes or so. This is a rare >solution, though, as most folks don't have high capacity pc card >drives lying around (I've got a Viper 340 double-spaced as well). But what I'm wondering is why someone would want to reinstall EVERYTHING because it takes so quick? I've only installed Warp 4 on my TP701 three times (taking 6 hours each time with 100 floppies), but now it works great and I never need to reinstall (except for Java and resource sharing). And again about booting from other devices, it all depends on the BIOS. If it's not in the BIOS, then you'd probably need a floppy disk with drives for your CD-ROM or PCMCIA HD. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 21 23:39:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA28996 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20310; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:36:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:34:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20140; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:34:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from snail.ecs.umass.edu (snail.ecs.umass.edu [128.119.91.94]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20128; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:34:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu (rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu [128.119.71.47]) by snail.ecs.umass.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA26552 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BDE5B8.7241A5D0@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu>; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:34:58 -0400 Message-ID: <01BDE5B8.7241A5D0@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu> From: Axel Hartmann To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: recap: Bay Area stores Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:34:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: hi all, about a month back I asked the list for recommendations of ThinkPad / = Computer / Electronics stores in the San Francisco Bay Area. I got quite = a lot of hints and want to thank all of you. Here's what I got around = to: First of all everyone in the Bay Area should be aware how lucky you are = - you get two free computing magazines free. MicroTimes was one and it = had good feature articles - even by the Chaos Manor guy who was recently = kicked from Byte. There were also a good index and a map in the back, so = I found everything relatively fast. There was also another magazine for = free, but I don't recall the name. Definitely the best store all around was Fry's. The San Jose one was = featured in Wired not too long ago with the Mayan temple theme - pretty = cool. I also happened to see the one in Fremont, I believe, which didn't = have a theme but was just as impressive. They both had replacement = batteries and car-power-adapters for lots and lots of laptops, except = for the TP701, which uses a very rare voltage around 10 Volts. I could = have gotten it ordered, but I didn't want to wait. Lucky thing, too, = because my travel budget was already severely strained. Pretty close in San Jose was HSC - Halted Surplus, and a row of smaller = shops with lots and lots of neat stuff - I got a bunch of small items: = small, strong magnets; a real, durable anti-static band for a buck; an = old mac mouse pre-ADB for my macquarium, and so on. Really cool. Plus = you drive down roads where one big name company is next to another big = name company. If the next big earthquake strikes there, I say were = screwed ;) These stores have many of the cool gizmos in stock, such as the pcmcia = adapters for 2.5" external hd's , IR-dongles, and of course the odd = vacuum tube computer if you need a spare. Need a core memory upgrade? = See every bit! As you can tell, I had a good time. I also realized, coming from the = east bay and driving to SF, how big the southern part of the Bay is. = Phew, quite a drive! Next time I'll have to plan my budget to account for these stores! see you, axel ........................................................................= .... . Axel Hartmann = . . Paper'n'People : 33 Meadow Street; Amherst, MA 01002; USA = . . Voice : +1 (413) 549 - 6113 , Fax on demand = . ........................................................................= .... . Office : Dept. of Chemical Engineering; UMass; Amherst, MA = 01003 . . Office Phone : +1 (413) 577 - 1235 Fax: +1 (413) 545 - = 1649 . . E-Mail : axhartma@risky.ecs.umass.edu = . . Homepage : = http://rheoserver.pse.umass.edu/users/axel/index.html . ........................................................................= .... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 00:11:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA29380 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21430; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:04:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:01:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21206; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sh1.ro.com (sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21174; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:00:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from socrates (ts1p13.ro.com [205.216.92.33]) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA06956 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:00:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199809220400.XAA06956@sh1.ro.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 98 22:55:57 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199809211928.MAA28599@ritchie.loop.com> Subject: Re: [TPALL] Making CD-R's to replace need for floppies? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.46a b46 List-Unsubscribe: "Paul Khoury" said the following on the auspicious date of 98-09-20: >> My own solution is a PCMCIA Type III drive. I've got a 131MB Maxtor >>loaded with all the .cab files and a lot of other crap that originally >>came on my IBM 560, and before it was loaded I formatted the drive as >>a system drive, making it bootable. I can totally wipe my C: drive and >>have everything back to normal within 45 minutes or so. This is a rare >>solution, though, as most folks don't have high capacity pc card >>drives lying around (I've got a Viper 340 double-spaced as well). >But what I'm wondering is why someone would want to reinstall EVERYTHING >because it takes so quick? You must remember, its Windows we're talking about. Two common solutions to problems from MS tech support are reboot, and reinstall. They won't even admit to some problems they know about -- I met a former employee at a Star Trek convention who told me as much. I use NT at work. It had to be reinstalled after a power outage (first one). Some disk troubles ocurred after the outage, so check disk was run. Check disk crashed. Then the system rebooted. Then check disk crashed . . . > I've only installed Warp 4 on my TP701 three >times (taking 6 hours each time with 100 floppies), but now it works >great and I never need to reinstall (except for Java and resource >sharing). >And again about booting from other devices, it all depends on the BIOS. >If it's not in the BIOS, then you'd probably need a floppy disk with >drives for your CD-ROM or PCMCIA HD. -------------------------------------------------- Windows95 -- An entomologist's dream Jeff Jackowski http://ro.com/~jeffj/ OS/2 WPS (Desktop) Tips, remote i-net dialup "Luncheon meats make the sawdust in your stomach explode." -- Crow T. Robot From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 00:31:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA29621 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22240; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:22:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:16:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21854; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:16:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21815; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:16:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from AlanCDane@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id CDBPa03120; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <181ac11a.36072440@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:14:56 EDT To: jeffj@ro.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: [TPALL] Making CD-R's to replace need for floppies? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 List-Unsubscribe: wow....i'm thinking seriously about sticking to my TRUST MAC! i'm serious...if you could see how much simplier they are to run and program and fix, you'd be shocked! good luck Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 02:02:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA00981 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24143; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:45:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23987; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23973; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:45:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p14.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.83]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA28630 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809220542.WAA28630@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Mon, 21 Sep 98 22:44:33 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TPALL: Cheap sources of memory? List-Unsubscribe: Which places would you guys recommend for cheap memory for a TP750 or a TP350? I just bought another 701, a 750, and 2 350's, and would like to upgrade the 350's and the 750. Also, when the 750's mouse dies out, is it possible to fix it? I don't have it yet, but I am wondering since the warranty is probably out. Thanks. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 02:36:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA01436 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24959; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:33:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24882; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24870; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:33:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA16842 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:33:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:33:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: ThinkPad List Subject: [Thinkpad] What can you tell me about the 560E? In-Reply-To: <199809220542.WAA28630@ritchie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I found a refurbished 560E for $999, but the only listed details are 166MHz, 16MB, 2.1GB, and TFT. The marketing people who control IBM's web site took off all the info on this particular model, and I haven't had much luck finding any old web pages describing it in detail. What size the the LCD? Resolution? VRAM? How many PCMCIA slots? What other goodies does it have? And has anyone installed Linux on it? -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 02:52:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA01556 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25478; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:49:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25380; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:49:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ankle.uplanet.com (host-189-2.uplanet.com [208.232.189.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25365; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ankle.uplanet.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980921235131.G269@ankle.uplanet.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:51:31 -0700 From: Jesse Montrose To: "John H. Kim" , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] What can you tell me about the 560E? Reply-To: jesse@spine.com Mail-Followup-To: "John H. Kim" , ThinkPad List References: <199809220542.WAA28630@ritchie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from John H. Kim on Tue, Sep 22, 1998 at 02:33:42AM -0400 List-Unsubscribe: I just bought the same unit myself new from warehouse.com for $1200, I can answer some of your questions. 12.1" screen, 800x600x16bpp I *think* it has 2MB video ram, maybe someone else can answer that 2 pcmcia slots infrared I'm running debian linux 2.0 successfully, and I've run slackware on a very similar unit (I'm much happier with debian!). My unit had a faulty pcmcia slot that took me a while to diagnose, but easyserve repaired it quickly under warrantee. I don't recall exactly where, but when I was deciding on this unit I found a pdf with some 560E specs on ibm's site. On Tue, Sep 22, 1998 at 02:33:42AM -0400, John H. Kim wrote: > I found a refurbished 560E for $999, but the only listed > details are 166MHz, 16MB, 2.1GB, and TFT. The marketing > people who control IBM's web site took off all the info on > this particular model, and I haven't had much luck finding any > old web pages describing it in detail. What size the the LCD? > Resolution? VRAM? How many PCMCIA slots? What other goodies > does it have? And has anyone installed Linux on it? > > -- > John H. Kim > kim@stormhaven.org > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 03:09:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA01728 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:09:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26522; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:07:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:07:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26436; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de [160.45.2.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26423; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:07:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de (160.45.2.6) with smtp id ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:07:18 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:07:12 +0200 (MEST) From: Christoph Eyrich X-Sender: eyrich@komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de To: "John H. Kim" cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] What can you tell me about the 560E? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 22 Sep 1998, John H. Kim wrote: > I found a refurbished 560E for $999, but the only listed > details are 166MHz, 16MB, 2.1GB, and TFT. The marketing > people who control IBM's web site took off all the info on > this particular model, and I haven't had much luck finding any > old web pages describing it in detail. go to http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/refs.html Klick on `Notebook & PDA support' - you get tons of files with info on older TPs. Regards, Christoph Eyrich -- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 03:54:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA02173 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28266; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:52:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:51:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28125; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28112; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:51:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA03212; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809220748.AAA03212@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Richard Hubbell" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 22 Sep 98 00:50:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: booting from network on TP760EL List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:02:05 -0700, Richard Hubbell wrote: >What is required to boot from the net? >A bootp server? > >Can I boot from a redhat linux cd? >Or does it have to be something more generic >like DOS or windows? > >I'd like to boot to the redhat linux install >diskette. > >But I'm not sure what exactly the TP760EL >is looking for to boot from the net. I know that with OS/2 Warp 3 or 4, you can boot on floppies, and do a install over the network, and that the SPARC-based notebooks can boot over a network natively (like my SPARCbook), but I think you'd still need either the HD or floppies to start up with to boot off a network on a ThinkPad. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 11:08:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA05581 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:08:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17149; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:00:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:53:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16752; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:53:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ecom.net ([207.155.73.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16734; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lou (c6ppp226.ecom.net [207.155.74.226]) by amber.ecom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA24322 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 07:52:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louw@prefer.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980922075149.007e67f0@ecom.net> X-Sender: louw@ecom.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 07:51:49 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: 800 Tech # busy? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have been trying to get through to the ThinkPad support # 800-722-2227 Since about 1 AM PDT. Always busy. Never had this problem before. Just unusually busy? Promotion? Problem with line? What I am looking for are the backup CDs I purchased a refurbished Thinkpad 365 from PC Connection and realized that there were no backup CDs. No Restore CD, nor the Windows Companion. I was told to contact IBM for these goodies. I want back up when I decide to add Win98 to my TP. I plan to use System Commander to move between them. I really don't want to try this but I need a copy of Win98 on the laptop for training purposes. Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 11:35:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA05942 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19240; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:31:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18870; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ecom.net ([207.155.73.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18851; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lou (c6ppp235.ecom.net [207.155.74.235]) by amber.ecom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA26750; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 08:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louw@prefer.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980922080608.0083a640@ecom.net> X-Sender: louw@ecom.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 08:06:08 -0700 To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" From: Lou Subject: Re: TPALL: Mouse dying? In-Reply-To: <199809220542.WAA28630@ritchie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: What do you mean by mouse dying? At 10:44 PM 9/21/98 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >Also, when the 750's mouse dies out, is it possible to fix it? I don't have it yet, but I am >wondering since the warranty is probably out. > >Thanks. > > Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 11:35:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA05951 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19330; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:32:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19002; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18989; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23578 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:31:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dts_jl (DTS_JL-pcp098671pcs.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23574 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:31:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980922112036.009f8e20@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:20:36 -0400 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: new TP600 models In-Reply-To: <3601A033.8525454B@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 07:50 PM 9/17/98 -0400, Lee Hetherington wrote: >There is now a new top-of-the-line TP600 with 300MHz mobile Pentium II. >To me, the interesting thing is that it only comes with a 5.1GB disk >instead of the 6.4GB disk that is available for upgrades (I have one >installed). > Patience, grasshopper. All things come to he who waits... http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/wwwthinkpads/6B8DE3DB032F289585256686 0075ABAC From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 11:56:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA06253 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19946; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:42:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:35:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19470; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19417; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:34:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24173 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:34:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dts_jl (DTS_JL-pcp098671pcs.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24162 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:34:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980922112325.009fb260@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:23:25 -0400 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: And for the 770 lovers out there... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwovseriesb/A7DFAF17FE607EE38525668 4006170EB From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 12:23:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA06649 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22247; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:19:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22123; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:19:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22104; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ciscoserv-230-101.usc.edu [128.125.230.101]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id JAA16039 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809221619.JAA16039@almaak.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:17:56 -0700 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: v.90 for TP 600? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Just wondering if anyone has seen or retrieved any kind of software update for the TP 600's modem to be v.90 capable. As near as I can tell, its not available yet. Sort of annoying, if you ask me. Why so slow? --- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net "It is hard to convince a high-school student that he will encounter a lot of problems more difficult than those of algebra and geometry," -- Edgar W. Howe in "Country Town Sayings", 1911. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 13:49:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA07990 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:49:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27698; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:36:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26842; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (uhbhic.uhb.fr [192.134.240.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26791; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:35:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm-770ed (cb1345.uhb.fr [192.134.240.42]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with SMTP id TAA21641 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:35:28 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3607DFF4.4FE2@uhb.fr> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:35:48 +0200 From: sylvestre meininger X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Jerky decompression on 770ED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi everyone. For some unfathomable reason, my 770ED (Win95) doesn't seem to be able to read Mpeg-1 or Mpeg-2 (from DVD) files correctly : Pictures and sound are jerky (that is, stop for about half a second every 10 to 20 seconds), both at the same time. Hardware acceleration is, of course, set to full (I tried other settings) and I reinstalled video, audio and Mpeg Drivers. And I ran a virus check using IBM's latest update for IBM Antivirus 3.0. I think I read about this problem on this list some time ago, but I can't remember what was the solution, if there was any. Of course, the French IBM Helpware center told me to wipe out the Hard Disk and do a full install from the recovery CD. Thanks. Could it be Rain ? But I installed it a long time ago and Mpeg decompression used to work fine with Rain running... Help ! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 13:49:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08001 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:49:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27694; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:44:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27434; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27416; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:44:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA20993; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:44:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:44:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Lou cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 800 Tech # busy? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980922075149.007e67f0@ecom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 22 Sep 1998, Lou wrote: > I have been trying to get through to the ThinkPad support # > > 800-722-2227 > > Since about 1 AM PDT. Always busy. Never had this problem before. The number is 800-772-2227. 800-722-2227 used to belong to another company (I used to make the same mistake you did all the time). I suspect they've long since disconnected the number due to all the misdials for IBM's EZ-Serv. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 14:31:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA08687 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 14:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00909; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 14:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 14:26:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00658; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 14:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00642; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 14:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com (atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com [144.253.1.35]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA14918; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:24:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rhubbell@aw.sgi.com) Received: from aw.sgi.com by atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA26261; Sender: rick@aw.sgi.com Message-ID: <3607EBBA.49D959EC@aw.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:26:02 -0700 From: Richard Hubbell Organization: Alias|Wavefront X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: booting from network on TP760EL References: <199809220748.AAA03212@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul Khoury wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:02:05 -0700, Richard Hubbell wrote: > > >What is required to boot from the net? > >A bootp server? > > > >Can I boot from a redhat linux cd? > >Or does it have to be something more generic > >like DOS or windows? > > > >I'd like to boot to the redhat linux install > >diskette. > > > >But I'm not sure what exactly the TP760EL > >is looking for to boot from the net. > > I know that with OS/2 Warp 3 or 4, you can boot on floppies, and do a install over the network, > and that the SPARC-based notebooks can boot over a network natively (like my SPARCbook), > but I think you'd still need either the HD or floppies to start up with to boot off a network on > a ThinkPad. Well I hate to say it but I guess I'm giving up. I'll either have to buy a floppy or find a way to hack the bios so that it'll see the cd as a boot device. I will not run NT (or win95/98/98.5) on this laptop. After using linux on a pc for a while I'm convinced that it is very capable and the apps are there too. Rick > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 15:42:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA09666 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04927; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:34:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04682; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:34:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04670; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id OAA07525 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 14:36:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 14:36:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Hibernation and FAT32 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I just saw this: Currently, the Recovery CD that ships with some ThinkPads do not support the recovery process to a FAT32 partition. For this reason, IBM recommends that the primary partition on the hard drive remain a FAT16 partition, however any additional partitions may be converted to FAT32. It is also recommended that the hibernation file reside on a FAT16 partition, although it will work if installed on a FAT32 partition at this web page: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3XJUHW.html So it looks as if IBM supports hibernation files on a FAT32 partition, but I assume you'd need a current BIOS for that to work. Has anyone tried this on an older machine (like my 750P)? Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 16:53:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA10798 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09082; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:48:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08840; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08827; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm ([12.79.14.58]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980922204624.MNON1558@ibm>; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:46:24 +0000 From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "sylvestre meininger" , Subject: Re: Jerky decompression on 770ED Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:43:42 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980922204624.MNON1558@ibm> List-Unsubscribe: If you are using W95, get IOS.UPD from the MS website and install it. There was an old issue involving a slave IDE drive and MPEG that the above file cures. ---------- > From: sylvestre meininger > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Jerky decompression on 770ED > Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 1:35 PM > > Hi everyone. > > For some unfathomable reason, my 770ED (Win95) doesn't seem to be able > to read Mpeg-1 or Mpeg-2 (from DVD) files correctly : Pictures and sound > are jerky (that is, stop for about half a second every 10 to 20 > seconds), both at the same time. > > Hardware acceleration is, of course, set to full (I tried other > settings) and I reinstalled video, audio and Mpeg Drivers. And I ran a > virus check using IBM's latest update for IBM Antivirus 3.0. > > I think I read about this problem on this list some time ago, but I > can't remember what was the solution, if there was any. > > Of course, the French IBM Helpware center told me to wipe out the Hard > Disk and do a full install from the recovery CD. Thanks. > > Could it be Rain ? But I installed it a long time ago and Mpeg > decompression used to work fine with Rain running... > > Help ! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 18:24:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12046 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:24:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12514; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:23:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:21:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12401; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12382; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 140.chicago-01-02rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.148.140]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980922222102.UGKL27218@140.chicago-01-02rs.il.dial-access.att.net>; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:21:02 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: "Bruce Markowitz" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TPALL] Making CD-R's to replace need for floppies? Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:22:13 GMT Message-ID: <360ece99.31172576@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <19980922021135.WRHI4499@ibm> In-Reply-To: <19980922021135.WRHI4499@ibm> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:08:53 -0400, "Bruce Markowitz" wrote: |Hey. it worked this time! Now what the hell good is it (unless they make= a |7 gig PCMCIA HDD, of course). That's why I was asking if it'll work with an external drive connector. That would make it possible to run any OS without touching your internal drive, no matter how large the install needs to be. It would also make cloning the system easier, too. Odds are I'll try it out eventually. I also think it's supposed to make it possible to boot over a network, but I haven't tried that yet, either. epbrown "Personally, I think all the world's problems have already been solved,=20 and people have decided they prefer the problems to the solutions." me - 6/13/96 The Comp.sys.laptops FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 18:27:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12106 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:27:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12783; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:24:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12580; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12536; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 140.chicago-01-02rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.148.140]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980922222331.UHWI27218@140.chicago-01-02rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:23:31 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP 600] DVD Drive rumors? Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:24:42 GMT Message-ID: <360a21ab.34643847@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: We're hitting crunch time, it seems. I've been planning to buy another 560, this time the X model, for almost a year now. While lots of folks on the list decided to go with the 600, I've held out. The only thing that interested me in the 600 series is the long-promised option of a DVD drive. I've got a DVD player and a library of about 60 movies, and the option of watching some of them on a nice 13" display while I'm on the road is appealing. But the drive was promised in June, and nothing has been said since. Now I'm hearing inklings that Toshiba is coming out with a slimline DVD drive for the Tecra 8000 models in October, and I can't imagine IBM being far behind those guys. Has anyone heard anything about a DVD-ROM for the UltraSlimBay finally making the scene?=20 epbrown "Personally, I think all the world's problems have already been solved,=20 and people have decided they prefer the problems to the solutions." me - 6/13/96 The Comp.sys.laptops FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 18:35:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12248 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13225; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:34:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:32:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13139; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:32:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from parsys.eecs.uic.edu (parsys.eecs.uic.edu [131.193.39.100]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13126; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atlanta.ParSysLab (atlanta.eecs.uic.edu [131.193.39.119]) by parsys.eecs.uic.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA08905; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:35:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by atlanta.ParSysLab (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA16765; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:32:33 -0500 To: epbrown@enteract.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: solworth@parsys.eecs.uic.edu Subject: Re: [TP 600] DVD Drive rumors? From: Jon Solworth In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:24:42 GMT" <360a21ab.34643847@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <360a21ab.34643847@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93b56 on Emacs 20.3 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980922173232X.solworth@parsys.eecs.uic.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:32:32 -0500 X-Dispatcher: imput version 980822 Lines: 33 List-Unsubscribe: No longer a rumor, see: http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwovseriesb/CB6060CE297B8B5585256684006170A6 Jon _______________________________________________________________________________ Jon A. Solworth internet: solworth@parsys.eecs.uic.edu Dept. of EECS (M/C 154) url: http://www.eecs.uic.edu/~solworth University of Illinois at Chicago telephone: (312) 996-0955 851 S. Morgan Rm 1120 SEO FAX: (312) 413-0024 Chicago, IL 60607-7053 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) Subject: [TP 600] DVD Drive rumors? Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:24:42 GMT > We're hitting crunch time, it seems. I've been planning to buy > another 560, this time the X model, for almost a year now. While lots > of folks on the list decided to go with the 600, I've held out. The > only thing that interested me in the 600 series is the long-promised > option of a DVD drive. I've got a DVD player and a library of about 60 > movies, and the option of watching some of them on a nice 13" display > while I'm on the road is appealing. But the drive was promised in > June, and nothing has been said since. > Now I'm hearing inklings that Toshiba is coming out with a slimline > DVD drive for the Tecra 8000 models in October, and I can't imagine > IBM being far behind those guys. Has anyone heard anything about a > DVD-ROM for the UltraSlimBay finally making the scene? > epbrown > "Personally, I think all the world's problems have already been solved, > and people have decided they prefer the problems to the solutions." > me - 6/13/96 > The Comp.sys.laptops FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 18:46:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12397 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:46:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13704; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:43:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13569; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:43:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13555; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28342 invoked by uid 66); 22 Sep 1998 22:42:43 -0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: Wake up! SXGA display Date: 22 Sep 1998 22:08:16 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 9 Message-ID: <6u974g$v87$2@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <199809140642.XAA15773@ritchie.loop.com> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971215 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i486)) List-Unsubscribe: Paul Khoury wrote: > But not all display drivers would support this resolution, and that could become > a problem. I think that 1280*1024 might be more standard... Might be? It's a VESA standard. 1152x864 is not. -- Bare feet magnetize sharp metal objects so they point upward from the floor -- especially in the dark. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 19:01:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA12652 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:01:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14495; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:58:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14331; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14319; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:57:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 140.chicago-01-02rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.148.140]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980922225721.VECY27218@140.chicago-01-02rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:57:21 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP 600] DVD Drive rumors? Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:58:33 GMT Message-ID: <360b29c0.36713411@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <360a21ab.34643847@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> <19980922173232X.solworth@parsys.eecs.uic.edu> In-Reply-To: <19980922173232X.solworth@parsys.eecs.uic.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:32:32 -0500, Jon Solworth wrote: |No longer a rumor, see: | |http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwovseriesb/CB6060CE297B8B55852= 56684006170A6 | Thanks Jane and Jon, for the *fastest* replies I've ever seen! Is it known of the DVD drive will work in the previous models, like the 2645-31U or 41U? The page for these still lists the drive as becoming available in June. And wouldn't I still need a pc card decoder for best performance, because all I see is MPEG-1 decoding ability, not MPEG-2? epbrown=20 "Personally, I think all the world's problems have already been solved,=20 and people have decided they prefer the problems to the solutions." me - 6/13/96 The Comp.sys.laptops FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 19:41:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA13201 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15643; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:40:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:39:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15537; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:39:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from illustrious (illustrious.concentric.net [207.155.252.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15525; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earlbrya (209-142-12-57.stk.inreach.net [209.142.12.57]) by illustrious (8.9.1/) id TAA12060; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:39:00 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay] Message-ID: <199809222339.TAA12060@illustrious> From: "Love and Jones Webmaster" Organization: Love and Jones Paralegal...The law is on yo To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:39:08 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [TP 755CD] Help!! Green-Screened Video!! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: The screen on my TP goes "green" (a transparent, light green) in about five to ten minutes after I turn it on. This has started happening recently, and I do not know what to do about it. Occasionally, it reverts to a "16 color like" cast also, but usually snaps right back to its 256 colors after rebooting. The major problem is the green overcast, though. I've rebooted, checked my settings, even left it in DOS for a while; the same things happen. This could happen when I'm surfing the 'net, or just letting the machine sit. I'm running a TP755CD-4ZF with Win95 OSR2, 24MB memory, 810mb HD, at 640x480x256 at the next to highest video acceleration setting in the System Control Panel. No CD-ROM. If anyone could help me, I'd appreciate it. Any guesses or questions? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 20:32:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA13981 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17186; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16953; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16941; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (GREASYGIRL.brightware.com [206.156.118.233]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA14487; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <013401bde688$729d3cd0$e9769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Emanuel Brown" , Subject: Re: [TP 600] DVD Drive rumors? Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:23:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Looks like bad news. The DVD's Multimedia features are described as "3D Graphics, Audio in/out connectors (rear), Microphone (integrated), Software MPEG-1, Sound Blaster Audio support, Speakers(stereo)/headphone jack, SRS 3D sound, Volume control (software)." The "Audio in/out connectors (rear)" are not on my 233mHz PII model. Are we out of luck? I was hoping to buy an upgrade that would give me a zoomed video PC card and a DVD drive. This would have been very cool. Sniff.... David -----Original Message----- From: Emanuel Brown To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [TP 600] DVD Drive rumors? >On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:32:32 -0500, Jon Solworth > wrote: >|No longer a rumor, see: >| >|http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwovseriesb/CB6060CE297B8B5585256 684006170A6 >| > Thanks Jane and Jon, for the *fastest* replies I've ever seen! Is >it known of the DVD drive will work in the previous models, like the >2645-31U or 41U? The page for these still lists the drive as becoming >available in June. And wouldn't I still need a pc card decoder for >best performance, because all I see is MPEG-1 decoding ability, not >MPEG-2? > epbrown >"Personally, I think all the world's problems have already been solved, >and people have decided they prefer the problems to the solutions." >me - 6/13/96 >The Comp.sys.laptops FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 20:54:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA14227 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:54:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18306; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:53:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:51:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18153; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from glacier.binc.net (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18141; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rkarp (msn-8-13.binc.net [205.173.178.140]) by glacier.binc.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA09862; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:51:17 -0500 Message-ID: <002201bde68c$461a98c0$8cb2adcd@rkarp.humana.com> Reply-To: "Robert J. Karp" From: "Robert J. Karp" To: "sylvestre meininger" , Subject: Re: Jerky decompression on 770ED Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:51:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Ensure you have DMA enabled. I know you received another response about an updated driver file but according to an IBM article on their Web site not having DMA enabled can also cause the symptoms of which you complain. -----Original Message----- From: sylvestre meininger To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 12:41 PM Subject: Jerky decompression on 770ED >Hi everyone. > >For some unfathomable reason, my 770ED (Win95) doesn't seem to be able >to read Mpeg-1 or Mpeg-2 (from DVD) files correctly : Pictures and sound >are jerky (that is, stop for about half a second every 10 to 20 >seconds), both at the same time. > >Hardware acceleration is, of course, set to full (I tried other >settings) and I reinstalled video, audio and Mpeg Drivers. And I ran a >virus check using IBM's latest update for IBM Antivirus 3.0. > >I think I read about this problem on this list some time ago, but I >can't remember what was the solution, if there was any. > >Of course, the French IBM Helpware center told me to wipe out the Hard >Disk and do a full install from the recovery CD. Thanks. > >Could it be Rain ? But I installed it a long time ago and Mpeg >decompression used to work fine with Rain running... > >Help ! > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 23:31:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16040 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:31:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23550; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:28:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23426; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23414; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bp ([12.70.21.156]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980923032438.BVHT12270@bp>; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 03:24:38 +0000 Message-ID: <36086A04.3C3B@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:24:52 -0400 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John H. Kim" CC: Lou , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 800 Tech # busy? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I think the # is 1-800-772-2227 for IBM Help Center. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 22 23:38:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16123 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23956; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:35:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23778; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm03sm.pmm.mci.net (pm03sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.152]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23766; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcione.com (usr57-dialup18.mix1.WillowSprings.cw.net) by PM03SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27035) with ESMTP id <0EZP001BVWML24@PM03SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 03:35:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:37:12 -0500 From: Jim Schneider Subject: boot secondary drive problem To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <36086CE8.3BF31E45@mcione.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a Thinkpad 770E with the 5gb primary drive. I have a 1.3gb secondary drive in a shell from thinkpads.com. If I put the 1.3gb drive in the ultrabay adaptor the system will not boot. If I leave the primary drive in, I get error 74 and hang. If I take out the primary drive I get an ascii draw screen showing hitting F1 because no boot device available. If I put this 1.3gb drive in the primary drive bay it boots fine, and if I put the 5gb drive in the ultra bay it also boots fine. To sum it up: The 5gb drive boots anytime anywhere The 1.3gb drive boots only in the primary drive bay, and only if the 5gb drive is not in the ultra bay. I have the drive jumpered for cable select too by the way. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 07:16:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA20060 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 07:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13095; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 07:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 07:14:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12921; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 07:14:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgate.generics.co.uk (mailgate.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12909; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 07:14:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scigen.co.uk (scigen) by mailgate.generics.co.uk (5.0/PIPEX simple 1.26) id AA22740; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:18:57 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk by scigen.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23239; Wed, 23 Sep 98 12:08:08 BST Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:12:02 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP755C] Windoze for Workgroups VGA setup Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: I normally use the tp under linux and use 256 colours under X which is=20= reasonably acceptable=2E However I have a WFW 3=2E11 setup on another HD=20= which I use for windoze apps=2E THe graphics doesn't seem to be=20= particularly hot (I reckon 16 colours), it is set for 'VGA' in the=20= system settings but I suspect I can get better than 256 colours with=20= the right driver - what should I be using here? - Adam ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 09:25:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA20928 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18688; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:23:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:20:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17970; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgate.generics.co.uk (mailgate.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17916; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scigen.co.uk (scigen) by mailgate.generics.co.uk (5.0/PIPEX simple 1.26) id AA23449; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:25:36 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk by scigen.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24375; Wed, 23 Sep 98 14:14:47 BST Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:18:52 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Adam Quantrill Subject: [TP755C] CD ROM Drivers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: I need a copy of either IBMCDROM=2ESYS or FDCD=2ESYS to get my SCSI CDROM=20= drive working under the DOCK1=2E Can anyone point me to a URL for the=20= relevant IBM disk image? I've tried searching on the IBM site to no=20= avail=2E Also has anyone had any MO drives working via SCSI? I have the=20= MO device driver, and the DOCK1 SCSI diagnostics seem to recognise my=20= SONY MO drive=2E - Adam ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 10:16:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21334 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22722; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:09:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22142; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22000; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-23.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.23]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id KAA27370 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:03:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980923100757.00778304@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:07:57 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: 4 meg card for 700c In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone have one of these buggers laying around? I need to take a 700c >from 12 to 16 megs. It currently has a 8 meg card installed. Also, the current HD size is 240meg. What is the maximum size PS/2 MCA HD to put in these units? The unit is slated as a 3.11/Dos network sniffer box. Mark (Who has a newfound appreciation for his 770 and 770ED Field units and realizes that his 760C P90 wasn't *that* bad ) ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 10:29:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21452 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:29:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24378; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:25:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24001; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgate.generics.co.uk (mailgate.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23985; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scigen.co.uk (scigen) by mailgate.generics.co.uk (5.0/PIPEX simple 1.26) id AA23804; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:29:49 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk by scigen.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25081; Wed, 23 Sep 98 15:19:00 BST Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:23:00 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Adam Quantrill Subject: Re: [TP755C] CD ROM Drivers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Actually I found the tpcde120 disk on the IBM site, does anyone think=20= this'll be safe to use on the 755 (it is a 9545 TFT model)? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [TP755C] CD ROM Drivers Author: MIME:Adam Quantrill at INTERNET Date: 23/09/98 14:28 I need a copy of either IBMCDROM=2ESYS or FDCD=2ESYS to get my SCSI CDROM drive=20= working under the DOCK1=2E Can anyone point me to a URL for the relevant IBM=20= disk image? I've tried searching on the IBM site to no avail=2E Also has anyone=20= had any MO drives working via SCSI? I have the MO device driver, and the=20= DOCK1 SCSI diagnostics seem to recognise my SONY MO drive=2E - Adam ------------------------------------------------------------=20= Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201=20= Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk=20= ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 10:59:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21687 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26806; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:54:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26594; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:54:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (kglp@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26578; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kglp@localhost) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA06128; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:53:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:53:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Ray Bayles To: Love and Jones Webmaster cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: [TP 755CD] Help!! Green-Screened Video!! In-Reply-To: <199809222339.TAA12060@illustrious> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: When that happened to mine, it was a bad video driver and had to go to easy serv for repair. On Tue, 22 Sep 1998, Love and Jones Webmaster wrote: > The screen on my TP goes "green" (a transparent, light green) in > about five to ten minutes after I turn it on. This has started happening > recently, and I do not know what to do about it. Occasionally, it reverts > to a "16 color like" cast also, but usually snaps right back to its 256 > colors after rebooting. The major problem is the green overcast, > though. > > I've rebooted, checked my settings, even left it in DOS for a while; the > same things happen. This could happen when I'm surfing the 'net, or > just letting the machine sit. > > I'm running a TP755CD-4ZF with Win95 OSR2, 24MB memory, > 810mb HD, at 640x480x256 at the next to highest video acceleration > setting in the System Control Panel. No CD-ROM. If anyone could > help me, I'd appreciate it. Any guesses or questions? > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 13:32:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23444 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07194; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:21:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06576; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:21:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06553; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p21.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.90]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA19064; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809231717.KAA19064@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Richard Hubbell" Date: Wed, 23 Sep 98 10:20:15 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: booting from network on TP760EL List-Unsubscribe: > >Well I hate to say it but I guess I'm giving up. >I'll either have to buy a floppy or find a way >to hack the bios so that it'll see the cd as a boot device. > Yeah, I'd say the BIOS would HAVE to be hacked somehow in order to do that. > >I will not run NT (or win95/98/98.5) on this laptop. >After using linux on a pc for a while I'm convinced that >it is very capable and the apps are there too. > Yeah, that came to me when I started using OS/2, and the same for Linux as a programming environment. You'd say "It has everything I need, so why switch?". -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 16:41:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA25922 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18627; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:40:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:38:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18266; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from andrsn.Stanford.edu (root@andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18226; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.Stanford.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA22500 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:37:49 GMT (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:37:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [701] Features Reinstallation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: My 701C came with OS/2 and Win3.1 (I upgraded this to 95); but now, with a new 2G hard drive, I put Win95 and FreeBSD on it. I no longer have any "ThinkPad features" but I have diskettes--PCMCIA features,, audio features, video features, infrared features. Could someone advise on what to reinstall? I'm not sure I really need any of it; but right now I don't know how to say "external monitor only" or "external keyboard only" (that might be in the manual, though). I upgraded to 40 megs ram by buying a 32 mb part for $58 from www.thechipmerchant.com. I thought that was quite good and I have had good experiences with them. Annelise From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 16:59:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA26193 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:59:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19936; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:55:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19652; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from illustrious (illustrious.concentric.net [207.155.252.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19620; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earlbrya (ts001d10.sto-ca.concentric.net [206.173.230.22]) by illustrious (8.9.1/) id QAA11875; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:54:59 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay] Message-ID: <199809232054.QAA11875@illustrious> From: "Love and Jones Webmaster" Organization: Love and Jones Paralegal...The law is on yo To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:55:07 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [TP 755CD] Green Screen update... Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: I figured out that maybe there was some sort of short going on with the video card and the floppy drive I had installed. If I "jiggled" and moved the (unrestrained) floppy drive around in the bay _just_ right, the video would go back to normal. However, it would return to its washed out green cast soon there after. I finally cracked open my TP, and removed the floppy drive. Voila, no more green screen. It's an inelegant solution, though, even if I hardly use the floppy drive. I fear if I put it back, or a CD-ROM drive in there, I'll have the same problem. At least (hopefully) I can now get it repaired at my lesiure, instead of worrying about a short or video failure. My question to the group...I won't do any long term damage to the TP if I remove the offending floppy drive, will I? With the circumstances that I described, do folks here concur that it may be a "short" of some kind, or something else? Earl "Duke" Bryant www.lawonyourside.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 17:24:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA26562 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21480; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:21:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21202; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (uhbhic.uhb.fr [192.134.240.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21178; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm-770ed (cb1344.uhb.fr [192.134.240.41]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with SMTP id XAA11969 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:20:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <36096645.940@uhb.fr> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:21:09 +0200 From: sylvestre meininger X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Still not resolved : Jerky decompression on 770ED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: A hearty thanks to Bruce Markowitz and Robert J. Karp. Unfortunately, Mpeg-1 or Mpeg-2 decompression remain desperately jerky. I therefore repeat my plea for help : Pictures and sound are jerky (that is, stop for about half a second every 10 to 20 seconds), both at the same time. Hardware acceleration is, of course, set to full (I tried other settings) and I reinstalled video, audio and Mpeg Drivers. And I ran a virus check using IBM's latest update for IBM Antivirus 3.0. I also enabled "DMA" in Device Manager\Hard Disk And updates Win 95 with iosupd.exe from MS website. I think I read about this problem on this list some time ago, but I can't remember what was the solution, if there was any. Of course, the French IBM Helpware center told me to wipe out the Hard Disk and do a full install from the recovery CD. Thanks. Could it be Rain ? But I installed it a long time ago and Mpeg decompression used to work fine with Rain running... Help !! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 18:13:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA27293 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23272; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:03:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23125; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:03:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailbox.uq.edu.au (root@dingo.cc.uq.edu.au [130.102.2.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23111; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cadaver91.anatomy.uq.edu.au ([130.102.138.91]) by mailbox.uq.edu.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA17214 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:03:00 +1000 (GMT+1000) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:03:00 +1000 (GMT+1000) Message-Id: <199809232203.IAA17214@mailbox.uq.edu.au> X-Sender: andpaul@dingo.uq.edu.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Darren J. Paul" Subject: Recurring access of disconnected floppy drive. Arrghhh!!! List-Unsubscribe: Hi group, My Thinkpad 760XL is experiencing a problem with accessing its external floppy disk drive, and I was wondering if anyone could help. I rarely have the drive attached, yet immediately after booting Windows 95 and now during almost any file operation with Windows Explorer, the machine seizes up for twenty to thirty seconds while it looks for the A drive. Does anyone know of a setting to be altered to prevent this? Thanks, Darren Paul. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 18:24:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA27434 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:24:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24027; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:21:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23874; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:21:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23861; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA32235 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:21:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:21:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [701] Features Reinstallation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, Annelise Anderson wrote: > My 701C came with OS/2 and Win3.1 (I upgraded this to 95); but now, with > a new 2G hard drive, I put Win95 and FreeBSD on it. I no longer have > any "ThinkPad features" but I have diskettes--PCMCIA features,, > audio features, video features, infrared features. > > Could someone advise on what to reinstall? I'm not sure I really need > any of it; but right now I don't know how to say "external monitor only" > or "external keyboard only" (that might be in the manual, though). The cool thing about the 701 is that all the management functions (APM features, battery meter, disk and display timeouts, etc.) are built into the BIOS, and thus available without having to install software. Windows should provide PCMCIA support, the audio is SBPro-compatible, I think Win95 supports the CT65545 by default although the drivers direct >from Chips are reputed to be better, and Windows should provide IR support. So you're basically all set - don't need to install anything. If you Fn-F7 repeatedly, it toggles between the LCD-only, external monitor-only, and simultanoues LCD & monitor. I don't think there is a setting for external keyboard only, but why would you need it? You can turn the trackpoint on/off within the BIOS. > I upgraded to 40 megs ram by buying a 32 mb part for $58 from > www.thechipmerchant.com. I thought that was quite good and I have > had good experiences with them. Sheesh. I paid $420 for my 16MB upgrade a little over two years ago (back when desktop memory was still around $20/meg). -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 19:13:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA28139 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:13:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25966; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:10:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25799; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25786; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm ([12.79.19.157]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980923230940.BAHA9555@ibm>; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:09:40 +0000 From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "sylvestre meininger" , Subject: Re: Still not resolved : Jerky decompression on 770ED Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:06:56 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980923230940.BAHA9555@ibm> List-Unsubscribe: I don't know if you mentioned whether you have a DVD drive or a CD - on my 760ED, MPEG runs much better if I use the DOS CD-ROM drivers (as opposed to the 32 bit drivers). What video card is in there? Do you have DirectX installed? Had lots of problems in that regard on the 760 until I got it right! ---------- > From: sylvestre meininger > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Still not resolved : Jerky decompression on 770ED > Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 5:21 PM > > A hearty thanks to Bruce Markowitz and Robert J. Karp. > > Unfortunately, Mpeg-1 or Mpeg-2 decompression remain desperately jerky. > I therefore repeat my plea for help : > > Pictures and sound are jerky (that is, stop for about half a second > every 10 to 20 seconds), both at the same time. > > Hardware acceleration is, of course, set to full (I tried other > settings) and I reinstalled video, audio and Mpeg Drivers. And I ran a > virus check using IBM's latest update for IBM Antivirus 3.0. > > I also enabled "DMA" in Device Manager\Hard Disk > And updates Win 95 with iosupd.exe from MS website. > > I think I read about this problem on this list some time ago, but I > can't remember what was the solution, if there was any. > > Of course, the French IBM Helpware center told me to wipe out the Hard > Disk and do a full install from the recovery CD. Thanks. > > Could it be Rain ? But I installed it a long time ago and Mpeg > decompression used to work fine with Rain running... > > Help !! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 20:54:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA29262 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29607; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:53:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:51:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29368; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:51:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29343; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:50:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c-137335-a ([24.2.197.152]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.0 201-221) with SMTP id <19980924005043.GFSA15503.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@c-137335-a>; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:50:43 -0700 From: "Scott A. Stratmoen" To: "sylvestre meininger" , Subject: RE: Still not resolved : Jerky decompression on 770ED Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:50:43 -0500 Message-ID: <000101bde755$5bec6f60$0101a8c0@c-137335-a.mntp1.il.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <36096645.940@uhb.fr> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Well I performed a re-install of the OS and still have the same problem on my 770. Not that you were planning to wipe the hard drive, don't bother..... -----Original Message----- From: sylvestre meininger [mailto:sylvestre.meininger@Uhb.Fr] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 4:21 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Still not resolved : Jerky decompression on 770ED A hearty thanks to Bruce Markowitz and Robert J. Karp. Unfortunately, Mpeg-1 or Mpeg-2 decompression remain desperately jerky. I therefore repeat my plea for help : Pictures and sound are jerky (that is, stop for about half a second every 10 to 20 seconds), both at the same time. Hardware acceleration is, of course, set to full (I tried other settings) and I reinstalled video, audio and Mpeg Drivers. And I ran a virus check using IBM's latest update for IBM Antivirus 3.0. I also enabled "DMA" in Device Manager\Hard Disk And updates Win 95 with iosupd.exe from MS website. I think I read about this problem on this list some time ago, but I can't remember what was the solution, if there was any. Of course, the French IBM Helpware center told me to wipe out the Hard Disk and do a full install from the recovery CD. Thanks. Could it be Rain ? But I installed it a long time ago and Mpeg decompression used to work fine with Rain running... Help !! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 22:29:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA00556 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:29:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03324; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:25:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03158; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03146; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:25:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user (ppp48.net21.binghamton.edu [128.226.21.48]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA07481; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809240225.WAA07481@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:25:18 -0400 To: "Darren J. Paul" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Ken Subject: Re: Recurring access of disconnected floppy drive. Arrghhh!!! In-Reply-To: <199809232203.IAA17214@mailbox.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:03 AM 9/24/98 +1000, Darren J. Paul wrote: >My Thinkpad 760XL is experiencing a problem with accessing its external >floppy disk drive, and I was wondering if anyone could help. I rarely have >the drive attached, yet immediately after booting Windows 95 and now during >almost any file operation with Windows Explorer, the machine seizes up for >twenty to thirty seconds while it looks for the A drive. Does anyone know >of a setting to be altered to prevent this? The page "Windows 95 Annoyances" addresses the common problems of Windows 95 accessing your floppy drive for no apparent reason. See http://www.annoyances.org/win95/win95ann6.html#07 for suggested solutions. Ken kenzo@free-music.com http://free-music.com/ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 22:42:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA00719 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:42:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03812; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:38:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03650; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03637; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:38:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p02.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.71]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA15312 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809240235.TAA15312@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 23 Sep 98 19:37:27 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TPALL List-Unsubscribe: Is there anyone on this list who could help me out with my ThinkPad 350? Thanks. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 23:34:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA01548 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05334; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:30:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05108; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05096; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (152.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.152]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id XAA25001; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360A65E1.F7668C10@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:31:45 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken CC: "Darren J. Paul" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Recurring access of disconnected floppy drive. Arrghhh!!! References: <199809240225.WAA07481@mail.binghamton.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Darren.. 1. connect the floppy, with a diskette in it.. 2. boot into win9x, 3. start windows file manager, 4. select "C:" drive and thus deselect "A:" drive.. this might be your problem.. that windows is looking for the last device it had accessed because you read a floppy, quit out of file manager and then, later shut down and removed the floppy drive.. Ken wrote: > At 08:03 AM 9/24/98 +1000, Darren J. Paul wrote: > >My Thinkpad 760XL is experiencing a problem with accessing its external > >floppy disk drive, and I was wondering if anyone could help. I rarely have > >the drive attached, yet immediately after booting Windows 95 and now during > >almost any file operation with Windows Explorer, the machine seizes up for > >twenty to thirty seconds while it looks for the A drive. Does anyone know > >of a setting to be altered to prevent this? > > The page "Windows 95 Annoyances" addresses the common problems of Windows > 95 accessing your floppy drive for no apparent reason. See > http://www.annoyances.org/win95/win95ann6.html#07 for suggested solutions. > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com > http://free-music.com/ken Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 23:36:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA01575 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05539; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:35:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:33:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05316; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05296; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:33:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (152.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.152]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id XAA25602; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360A666E.6C5A9293@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:34:06 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TPALL References: <199809240235.TAA15312@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. whats wrong with it..? Paul Khoury wrote: > Is there anyone on this list who could help me out with my ThinkPad 350? > > Thanks. > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 23:49:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA01730 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06344; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:48:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:46:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06216; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06204; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dts_jl ([12.69.36.12]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980924034617.BJKZ4966@dts_jl> for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 03:46:17 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980923233459.00afe160@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:34:59 -0400 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: [TP 755CD] Green Screen update... In-Reply-To: <199809232054.QAA11875@illustrious> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 01:55 PM 9/23/98 +0800, Love and Jones Webmaster wrote: >At least (hopefully) I can now get it repaired at my lesiure, >instead of worrying about a short or video failure. > How much more time do you have on the warranty? I wouldn't be *too* leisurely about it. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 23 23:57:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA01847 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06690; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:56:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:54:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06561; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06549; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (152.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.152]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id XAA00927; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:54:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360A6B8B.4DF19BD6@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:55:55 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John H. Kim" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [701] Features Reinstallation References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Be aware that win9x can change the bios settings if you change something in system properties.. John H. Kim wrote: > On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > My 701C came with OS/2 and Win3.1 (I upgraded this to 95); but now, with > > a new 2G hard drive, I put Win95 and FreeBSD on it. I no longer have > > any "ThinkPad features" but I have diskettes--PCMCIA features,, > > audio features, video features, infrared features. > > > > Could someone advise on what to reinstall? I'm not sure I really need > > any of it; but right now I don't know how to say "external monitor only" > > or "external keyboard only" (that might be in the manual, though). > > The cool thing about the 701 is that all the management > functions (APM features, battery meter, disk and display > timeouts, etc.) are built into the BIOS, and thus available > without having to install software. Windows should provide > PCMCIA support, the audio is SBPro-compatible, I think Win95 > supports the CT65545 by default although the drivers direct > from Chips are reputed to be better, and Windows should > provide IR support. So you're basically all set - don't need > to install anything. > > If you Fn-F7 repeatedly, it toggles between the LCD-only, > external monitor-only, and simultanoues LCD & monitor. > > I don't think there is a setting for external keyboard only, > but why would you need it? You can turn the trackpoint on/off > within the BIOS. > > > I upgraded to 40 megs ram by buying a 32 mb part for $58 from > > www.thechipmerchant.com. I thought that was quite good and I have > > had good experiences with them. > > Sheesh. I paid $420 for my 16MB upgrade a little over two > years ago (back when desktop memory was still around $20/meg). > -- > John H. Kim > kim@stormhaven.org -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 00:38:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA02264 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:38:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08218; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:35:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08077; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08065; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:35:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (152.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.152]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id AAA11516; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:35:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360A751F.8F1FAF30@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:36:47 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Schneider CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: boot secondary drive problem References: <36086CE8.3BF31E45@mcione.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Jim.. what mfg. is the HDD.. toshiba or IBM..?? Jim Schneider wrote: > I have a Thinkpad 770E with the 5gb primary drive. I have a 1.3gb > secondary drive in a shell from thinkpads.com. If I put the 1.3gb drive > in the ultrabay adaptor the system will not boot. If I leave the primary > drive in, I get error 74 and hang. If I take out the primary drive I get > an ascii draw screen showing hitting F1 because no boot device > available. > > If I put this 1.3gb drive in the primary drive bay it boots fine, and if > I put the 5gb drive in the ultra bay it also boots fine. > > To sum it up: > > The 5gb drive boots anytime anywhere > > The 1.3gb drive boots only in the primary drive bay, and only if the > 5gb drive is not in the ultra bay. > > I have the drive jumpered for cable select too by the way. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 01:30:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03040 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09367; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:28:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09241; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09226; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:28:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (152.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.152]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA21182; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360A811D.3C367748@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:27:57 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Bell CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 4 meg card for 700c References: <3.0.1.32.19980923100757.00778304@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Mark.. no memory, but those are ESDI HDD's and tough to find.. the largest i THINK i ever heard of was 500~ megs.. Mark Bell wrote: > Does anyone have one of these buggers laying around? I need to take a 700c > from 12 to 16 megs. > It currently has a 8 meg card installed. > > Also, the current HD size is 240meg. What is the maximum size PS/2 MCA HD > to put in these units? > The unit is slated as a 3.11/Dos network sniffer box. > > Mark > (Who has a newfound appreciation for his 770 and 770ED Field units > and realizes that his 760C P90 wasn't *that* bad ) > > ------------------------------------------------- > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > ------------------------------------------------- > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > Network and System consultation and installation > -------------------------------------------------- -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 01:45:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03152 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09908; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:43:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09771; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09758; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:43:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (152.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.152]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA23406; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360A84B7.AEC3B06@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:43:19 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Quantrill CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP755C] CD ROM Drivers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Adam.. I looked on the original preload restore CD for the 755CD... none of the two files that you want are there..!! BUT, i DID find the IBMSDROM.SYS file on the boot floppy.. i'll send it to you.. Adam Quantrill wrote: > I need a copy of either IBMCDROM.SYS or FDCD.SYS to get my SCSI CDROM drive working under the DOCK1. Can anyone point me to a URL for the relevant IBM disk image? I've tried searching on the IBM site to no avail. Also has anyone had any MO drives working via SCSI? I have the MO device driver, and the DOCK1 SCSI diagnostics seem to recognise my SONY MO drive. > > - Adam > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston > Cambridge > CB2 5NH > United Kingdom http://www.generics.co.uk > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 01:50:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03184 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:50:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10211; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:47:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10035; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:47:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10020; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:47:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (152.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.152]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA24283; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:47:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360A85FA.166670E6@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:48:42 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Love and Jones Webmaster CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: [TP 755CD] Green Screen update... References: <199809232054.QAA11875@illustrious> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Duke.. sounds to me like your problem is the top cover cable.. press on the bezel just under the display on the left third.. move the top around.. if this reproduces the problem, then.. :-) no damage at all if the floppy is not in the bay.. Love and Jones Webmaster wrote: > I figured out that maybe there was some sort of short going on with > the video card and the floppy drive I had installed. If I "jiggled" and > moved the (unrestrained) floppy drive around in the bay _just_ right, > the video would go back to normal. However, it would return to its > washed out green cast soon there after. I finally cracked open my > TP, and removed the floppy drive. Voila, no more green screen. It's > an inelegant solution, though, even if I hardly use the floppy drive. I > fear if I put it back, or a CD-ROM drive in there, I'll have the same > problem. At least (hopefully) I can now get it repaired at my lesiure, > instead of worrying about a short or video failure. > > My question to the group...I won't do any long term damage to the TP > if I remove the offending floppy drive, will I? With the circumstances > that I described, do folks here concur that it may be a "short" of some > kind, or something else? > > Earl "Duke" Bryant > www.lawonyourside.com -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 01:55:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03228 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:55:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10539; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:54:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:52:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10400; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:52:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10382; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (152.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.152]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA24956; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360A8722.562AE7D@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:53:39 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lou CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 800 Tech # busy? References: <3.0.5.32.19980922075149.007e67f0@ecom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Lou.. like birger says.. 772-2227 not 722-2227 :-) also, don't hold your breath on recovery CD's for the 365.. but if you DO get such an item from IBM please let me know.. :-) Lou wrote: > I have been trying to get through to the ThinkPad support # > > 800-722-2227 > > Since about 1 AM PDT. Always busy. Never had this problem before. > > Just unusually busy? Promotion? Problem with line? > > What I am looking for are the backup CDs > > I purchased a refurbished Thinkpad 365 from PC Connection and realized that > there were no backup CDs. No Restore CD, nor the Windows Companion. I was > told to contact IBM for these goodies. > > I want back up when I decide to add Win98 to my TP. I plan to use System > Commander to move between them. I really don't want to try this but I need > a copy of Win98 on the laptop for training purposes. > > Warm regards, > > -lou- -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 02:00:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA03400 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10968; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:57:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10734; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10722; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:57:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (152.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.152]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA25699; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:57:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360A8863.410988A6@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:58:59 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John H. Kim" CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] What can you tell me about the 560E? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: John.. i saw a 560X advertised at PC Warehouse (i think) for $1200~ 560 has 2 pcmcia slots.. 650 came with 12.1TFT and an 11.3 DSTN.. (hope you got/get the TFT) it has an Ir port and the usual other stuff.. John H. Kim wrote: > I found a refurbished 560E for $999, but the only listed > details are 166MHz, 16MB, 2.1GB, and TFT. The marketing > people who control IBM's web site took off all the info on > this particular model, and I haven't had much luck finding any > old web pages describing it in detail. What size the the LCD? > Resolution? VRAM? How many PCMCIA slots? What other goodies > does it have? And has anyone installed Linux on it? > > -- > John H. Kim > kim@stormhaven.org -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 02:01:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA03463 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11091; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:58:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10809; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10797; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (152.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.152]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA25400; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:55:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360A87DD.C91E00DB@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:56:45 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TPALL: Cheap sources of memory? References: <199809220542.WAA28630@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. if the dead mouse is due to the trackpoint, then it can be replaced.. along with the keyboard.. $50 ~ but first, check the ribbon cable under the keyboard where it plugs into the system board.. it might be loose or disconnected.. Paul Khoury wrote: > Which places would you guys recommend for cheap memory for a TP750 or a TP350? > > I just bought another 701, a 750, and 2 350's, and would like to upgrade the 350's and the > 750. > > Also, when the 750's mouse dies out, is it possible to fix it? I don't have it yet, but I am > wondering since the warranty is probably out. > > Thanks. > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 02:19:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA03604 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:19:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11759; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:15:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11608; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:15:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucy.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11593; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:15:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seawesta-80.az.com (seawesta-80.az.com [204.201.18.80]) by lucy.az.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA24143 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809240609.XAA24143@lucy.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Wed, 23 Sep 98 23:25:10 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Recovery CD for 365 series TP List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:53:39 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: >also, don't hold your breath on recovery CD's for the 365.. >but if you DO get such an item from IBM please let me know.. :-) > >Lou wrote: > >> I have been trying to get through to the ThinkPad support # Yes. That would be nice to have one. For worse case senerios. Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 04:18:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA04526 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16519; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:09:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15900; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15882; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user (bing229.net108.binghamton.edu [128.226.108.229]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA20089 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809240809.EAA20089@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:09:18 -0400 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TP770ED] Monitor looked like it was melting! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Here's an eerie thing that just happened on my 770ed: In Windows 95, I got a blue screen exception. I don't remember what it was, but the file that failed was "PPPxxx.VXD", where I don't remember what xxx was. Anyway, I hit enter to resume my session, and the screen remained on the blue screen, but got horizontal lines all over it (as if it were an interlaced image that hadn't finished loading). Then, within a couple of seconds, I noticed that the screen started filling up with a color. Maybe it was a green or grayish color. Anyway, it came on the whole screen at once, but started out very dim and got brighter and brighter, like there was liquid leaking or something. It was REALLY WEIRD. It looked like something was gradually oozing into the insides of my screen. Anyway, I got sufficiently freaked out, and hit the reset button, and the screen went instantly black. Any theories on what was going on? I've never seen a computer screen do anything like this, but, then again, I haven't used many laptops in my life. Ken kenzo@free-music.com http://free-music.com/ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 04:51:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA04718 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17406; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:47:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17100; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:47:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgate.generics.co.uk (mailgate.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17061; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scigen.co.uk (scigen) by mailgate.generics.co.uk (5.0/PIPEX simple 1.26) id AA27376; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 09:52:04 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk by scigen.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02469; Thu, 24 Sep 98 09:41:15 BST Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 9:45:25 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Adam Quantrill Subject: Re[2]: [TP755C] CD ROM Drivers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: I tried the drivers off INTCDROM=2EEXE=2E These are IBMCDROM=2ESYS and=20= FDCD=2ESYS=2E Neither of them recognised the CD drive=2E A couple of=20= questions: Is the /D:IBMCD001 switch telling it the SCSI Ident string? What is the normal SCSI ID for the IBM 2XSCSI CDROM on a DOCK? - Adam ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [TP755C] CD ROM Drivers Author: MIME:Adam Quantrill at INTERNET Date: 23/09/98 15:32 Actually I found the tpcde120 disk on the IBM site, does anyone think this'll=20= be safe to use on the 755 (it is a 9545 TFT model)? ______________________________ Reply Separator=20= _________________________________ Subject: [TP755C] CD ROM Drivers Author: MIME:Adam Quantrill at INTERNET=20= Date: 23/09/98 14:28 I need a copy of either IBMCDROM=2ESYS or FDCD=2ESYS to get my SCSI CDROM drive=20= working under the DOCK1=2E Can anyone point me to a URL for the relevant IBM=20= disk image? I've tried searching on the IBM site to no avail=2E Also has anyone=20= had any MO drives working via SCSI? I have the MO device driver, and the=20= DOCK1 SCSI diagnostics seem to recognise my SONY MO drive=2E - Adam ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific=20= Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston=20= Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk=20= ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------=20= Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201=20= Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk=20= ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 04:52:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA04731 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17402; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:47:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17084; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:47:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgate.generics.co.uk (mailgate.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17062; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scigen.co.uk (scigen) by mailgate.generics.co.uk (5.0/PIPEX simple 1.26) id AA27377; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 09:52:05 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk by scigen.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02470; Thu, 24 Sep 98 09:41:15 BST Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 9:45:26 +0000 To: Bill Morrow Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: [TP755C] CD ROM Drivers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: That's OK I managed to find it on INTCDROM=2EEXE but I'm having trouble=20= getting it to work, see my other post=2E THanks, Adam ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [TP755C] CD ROM Drivers Author: MIME:Bill Morrow at INTERNET Date: 24/09/98 06:51 Adam=2E=2E I looked on the original preload restore CD for the 755CD=2E=2E=2E none of the tw= o=20= files that you want are there=2E=2E!! BUT, i DID find the IBMSDROM=2ESYS file on the boot floppy=2E=2E i'll send it to=20= you=2E=2E Adam Quantrill wrote: > I need a copy of either IBMCDROM=2ESYS or FDCD=2ESYS to get my SCSI CDROM drive= =20= working under the DOCK1=2E Can anyone point me to a URL for the relevant IBM=20= disk image? I've tried searching on the IBM site to no avail=2E Also has anyone=20= had any M drives working via SCSI? I have the MO device driver, and the DOCK1 SCSI=20= diagnostics seem to recognise my SONY MO drive=2E=20= > > - Adam > ------------------------------------------------------------=20= > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201=20= > Harston > Cambridge > CB2 5NH > United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Happy Trails=2E=2E=2E ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads=2Ecom Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads=2Ecom/enter=2Ehtml=20= bill@thinkpads=2Ecom, morrow1@compuserve=2Ecom, morrow@treco=2Enet=20= 770ED-5AU(8=2E1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3=2E0gig, 104meg), 701C(6=2E3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 12:54:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA08515 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:54:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12836; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:45:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12592; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rodney (rodney.concentric.net [207.155.252.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12578; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:45:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earlbrya (209-142-6-170.stk.inreach.net [209.142.6.170]) by rodney (8.9.1/) id MAA16307; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:45:14 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay] Message-ID: <199809241645.MAA16307@rodney> From: "Love and Jones Webmaster" Organization: Love and Jones Paralegal...The law is on yo To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 09:45:21 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [TP 755CD] Green Screen update... CC: Jane Loyless Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.1.32.19980923233459.00afe160@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> References: <199809232054.QAA11875@illustrious> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: > At 01:55 PM 9/23/98 +0800, Love and Jones Webmaster wrote: > > >At least (hopefully) I can now get it repaired at my lesiure, > >instead of worrying about a short or video failure. > > > > How much more time do you have on the warranty? I wouldn't be *too* > leisurely about it. > Don't know exactly. I bought it from someone who probably got it from someone else. I wonder if I could call IBM, and find out if it had been registered, and find out if there is any more time left on the warranty. Duke From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 14:37:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09968 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:37:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18181; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:29:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17970; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17894; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:28:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-14.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.14]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id OAA13431 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980924142942.00698db0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:29:42 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: 8meg IC Dram Card Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Ok, I just checked the slots on this 700c. 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Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 14:39:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA10020 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18515; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:36:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:34:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18297; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bajor.hosteng.org (bajor.ihosteng.priv.no [195.0.205.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18285; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ivartp770.hosteng.org (iehtp.hosteng.org [195.0.205.100]) by bajor.hosteng.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03176 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:31:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ivar@hosteng.org) Message-Id: <4.0.2.19980924202347.008e7340@bajor.hosteng.org> X-Sender: ivar@bajor.hosteng.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:34:37 +0200 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Ivar =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F8steng?= Subject: Changing DVD zones on a IBM Thinkpad 770 List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have downloaded a file that allows you to switch between zone 1 and zone 2 on a IBM Thinkpad 770/770ED dvd player. As I cannot remember where i got this patch I have made it available for download at the following site: http://www.hosteng.org/tpdvd12.exe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.3i for non-commercial use iQCVAwUBNgqCrneH1nNr2gf9AQHT3wP/byASBHSO/yWYBbHVLNWd7X4GzTG1UhmL 3sZR0KXxEwiQPlemzZRjBTTr0KE99YoRLXB8c7hvhb/n/r3aqXz+iduEfg2qQAFg 7wGD92/K+uz/knUQWtRJWgbm04sQNh1y5FMMs3T+aVNyxm41Be1tpNV1Wf4e8vuK ztJUsmw9OAE= =JVUw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 18:13:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA13026 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29743; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:11:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:05:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29405; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sfi.santafe.edu (sfi.santafe.edu [192.12.12.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29375; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucero.santafe.edu by sfi.santafe.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12163; Thu, 24 Sep 98 16:05:08 MDT Received: by lucero.santafe.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA01431; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:05:07 -0600 To: brm@cs.stanford.edu, "Fabian Rodriguez" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Linux Only: ThinkPad 365XD (TFT display), RedHat 5.0 and XFree86 3.3.2 References: <199807081819.LAA29351@empty.Stanford.EDU> From: Alex Lancaster Date: 24 Sep 1998 16:05:07 -0600 In-Reply-To: Brian Murphy's message of "Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:19:11 -0700" Message-Id: Lines: 436 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 List-Unsubscribe: >>>>> "BM" == Brian Murphy writes: Finally an answer for a fairly old post... Hope this is of some use to those long-suffering ThinkPad 365XD/Linux users out there. BM> Well, I have a Thinkpad 560 (DS display), which isn't a 365, but I BM> had similar problems with XFree86-SVGA-3.3.2. After trying every BM> possible change to the XF86Config file, including various BM> spellings of the chipset, some of which were recognized but none BM> of which worked, I searched around a bit, I found this note on the BM> www.xfree86.org site BM> (http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.2/RELNOTES9.html#9): BM> There are problems with some of the Trident laptop chipsets. The BM> driver seems to work in a limited way for some people, but not BM> others. Until someone with the appropriate hardware can look into BM> this, these problems are unlikely to be fixed. If you wish to work BM> on this, please contact us. We don't need testers, we need people BM> willing and able to fix the problems. BM> So, regrettably lacking time to figure the XFree86-SVGA sources BM> out, I reverted to XFree86-SGVA-3.3.1-14. BM> The lesson: keep in mind that the server might actually not work BM> for your chipset, even though it says it does. BM> -Brian BM> ps. I would welcome a contradiction from another TP560 owner who BM> got XFree86-SVGA-3.2.2 to work. :-) OK folks, I have managed to get the XF86_SVGA server working with 800x600 resolution with the following setup: Model of ThinkPad: 365XD (TFT) Linux distribution: RedHat 5.1 Version of XFree86: XFree86-SVGA-3.3.2.3-18 (the `-18' refers to the RPM release number). Here's my XF86Config file. (Incidentally there was precious little systematic investigation that actually led to this particular configuration working, basically I tweaked it, then a friend of mine tweaked it - and eventually - hey presto! So I'm sorry if we can't offer any real knowledge about the chipset problems to folks using XFree86 - all we know is that fiddling with the Clocks lines and synchronisation things seemed to do the job). # File generated by xf86config. # # Copyright (c) 1995 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) # # If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other # programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory # to the end of this list (or comment them out). # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" # For OSs that support Dynamically loaded modules, ModulePath can be # used to set a search path for the modules. This is currently supported # for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x and NetBSD 1.x. The default path is shown # here. # ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Module section -- this is an optional section which is used to specify # which dynamically loadable modules to load. Dynamically loadable # modules are currently supported only for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x # and NetBSD 1.x. Currently, dynamically loadable modules are used # only for some extended input (XInput) device drivers. # ********************************************************************** # # Section "Module" # # This loads the module for the Joystick driver # # Load "xf86Jstk.so" # # EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging # NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. # DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. # DontZoom # Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With # it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes, # but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will # receive a protocol error. # DisableVidModeExtension # Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client. # AllowNonLocalXvidtune # Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device # (mouse and keyboard) settings. # DisableModInDev # Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to # change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset). # AllowNonLocalModInDev EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Keyboard section # ********************************************************************** Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the # following line # Protocol "Xqueue" AutoRepeat 500 5 # Let the server do the NumLock processing. This should only be required # when using pre-R6 clients # ServerNumLock # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Xleds 1 2 3 # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: # LeftAlt Meta # RightAlt ModeShift # RightCtl Compose # ScrollLock ModeLock # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. XkbDisable # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. # keyboard, you will probably want to use: # XkbModel "pc102" # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: # XkbModel "microsoft" # # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: # XkbLayout "de" # or: # XkbLayout "de" # XkbVariant "nodeadkeys" # # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and # control keys, use: # XkbOptions "ctrl:swapcaps" # These are the default XKB settings for XFree86 # XkbRules "xfree86" # XkbModel "pc101" # XkbLayout "us" # XkbVariant "" # XkbOptions "" XkbKeymap "xfree86(us)" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "PS/2" Device "/dev/mouse" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms) Emulate3Buttons # Emulate3Timeout 50 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # ChordMiddle EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Xinput section -- this is optional and is required only if you # are using extended input devices. This is for example only. Refer # to the XF86Config man page for a description of the options. # ********************************************************************** # # Section "Xinput" # SubSection "WacomStylus" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # DeviceName "Wacom" # EndSubSection # SubSection "WacomCursor" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # EndSubSection # SubSection "WacomEraser" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # EndSubSection # # SubSection "Elographics" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # DeviceName "Elo" # MinimumXPosition 300 # MaximumXPosition 3500 # MinimumYPosition 300 # MaximumYPosition 3500 # Screen 0 # UntouchDelay 10 # ReportDelay 10 # EndSubSection # # SubSection "Joystick" # Port "/dev/joy0" # DeviceName "Joystick" # TimeOut 10 # MinimumXPosition 100 # MaximumXPosition 1300 # MinimumYPosition 100 # MaximumYPosition 1100 # # CenterX 700 # # CenterY 600 # Delta 20 # EndSubSection # # The Mouse Subsection contains the same type of entries as the # standard Pointer Section (see above), with the addition of the # DeviceName entry. # # SubSection "Mouse" # Port "/dev/mouse2" # DeviceName "Second Mouse" # Protocol "Logitech" # EndSubSection # EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "IBM Thinkpad 365XD" VendorName "IBM" ModelName "ThinkPad 365XD" # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 20-80 # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 20-80 # Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or # a multi-line format. # These two are equivalent # ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # Mode "1024x768i" # DotClock 45 # HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264 # VTimings 768 776 784 817 # Flags "Interlace" # EndMode # This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec # are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and # VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to # delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your # monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor # and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically # used. ModeLine "800x600" 39.6 800 840 960 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync #ModeLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 #ModeLine "640x480" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -HSync -VSync EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** Section "Device" Identifier "Trident 9320 LCD" VendorName "Trident" BoardName "tgui9320lcd" Chipset "cyber9382" Option "noaccel" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # The Colour SVGA server Section "Screen" Driver "svga" Device "Trident 9320 LCD" Monitor "IBM Thinkpad 365XD" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 # Omit the Modes line for the "Generic VGA" device Modes "800x600" "640x480" Virtual 800 600 Viewport 0 0 # Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA EndSubsection EndSection -- Alex Lancaster | e-mail: alexl@bigfoot.com Swarm Program | web: http://www.santafe.edu/~alex Santa Fe Institute | tel: +1-(505) 984-8800 (ext 242) ------------------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 18:35:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA13387 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01008; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:34:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:32:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00789; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00770; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:32:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14520 invoked by uid 66); 24 Sep 1998 22:31:24 -0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: TP600: GSM Date: 24 Sep 1998 21:17:18 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 15 Message-ID: <6uecsu$q5$13@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <199809101832.WAA19835@home.egenet.com.tr> <3600A554.662281D9@icanect.net> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980618 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i486)) List-Unsubscribe: > Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: >> >> I'm sorry - I realised it afterwards. My phone is a Panasonic G500. >> I hear there is an "Option International" brand/model for about $260, >> including shipping. Anyone have any experience with those? >> >> Yes, working with OS/2 is a must for me too.. These parts tend to present themselves to the OS as normal modems - what they basically are. -- Why don't elephants eat penguins ? Because they can't get the wrappers off ... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 19:44:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14304 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03878; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:41:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03730; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prioritysolutions.com (prioritysolutions.com [206.155.246.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03716; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thud (host11.psnet.net [206.155.246.161]) by prioritysolutions.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id S2KX41GS; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:43:09 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Robert W. King" To: "Bill Morrow" Cc: Subject: RE: [701] Features Reinstallation Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:44:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000301bde815$43715520$a1f69bce@thud> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <360A6B8B.4DF19BD6@icanect.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Hi Bill! > Be aware that win9x can change the bios settings if you change > something in system properties. Interesting! Could you expand on that please? -- Robert W. King I'm an ingenieur, NOT a bloody locomotive driver! SnailNet: 19023 TV Tower Rd, Winslow, Arkansas 72959 BellNet: 501-634-2086 InterNet: robtking@prioritysolutions.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/k/i/n/Robert-W-King/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 21:44:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA15626 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07660; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:40:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07482; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07469; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user (ppp52.net21.binghamton.edu [128.226.21.52]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA06537 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:40:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809250140.VAA06537@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:40:02 -0400 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TP770ED] Win95 screen resets to 640x480 after some crashes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Not infrequently, my 770ed crashes while booting Windows 95, usually soon after the Windows 95 wallpaper is displayed, but before anything else gets to happen. I get a blue screen, with an exception in "PIC(1) VXD" or something like that. Ctrl-Alt-Del brings up the task list (which is mostly empty), and I can Shut Down. If I then turn the computer on again, it always works. I realize there are many possible problems, including software I'm running. (One theory I have involves whether I have the screen closed during bootup. It seems not to crash when I have the screen opened the whole time, but I haven't proven this yet.) Anyway, one of the horrible side effects of this, and many other crashes, is that my screen resolution resets from 1024x768 to 640x480, causing all my desktop icons to get mushed together. 1) Does anyone know what might be causing this crash? 2) Does anyone know a straightforward way to keep the display from changing resolution? Like, somewhere at bootup, before the GUI loads, to be able to force the appropriate registry key (as far as I can see, it's HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Config\0001\Display\Settings\Resolution that changes on my system) to "1024,768" automatically, so that when these crashes happen, I still boot in the right resolution? Thanks for any help. I hope this turns out to be on-topic for Thinkpads. Ken - kenzo@free-music.com - - http://free-music.com/ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 22:11:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA15934 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08576; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:02:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08398; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08386; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:02:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA12191 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:01:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:01:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [Thinkpad] TP701 for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I took the plunge and ordered a TP560E, so my TP701 is for sale. Specs: - 701c, 486DX4/75 processor, butterfly keyboard - 640x480 Active matrix (15bit on TFT, 24bit on monitor) Display is perfect, without any dead or stuck pixels - 720 MB hard drive - 24 MB RAM (16MB Kingston SO-DIMM installed) - 14.4 kbps modem built-in (supports 19.2 kbps v.terbo) - 16-bit SBPro emulation - used NiMH battery (holds about 2:15 of charge) - port replicator, not broken like so many of these are - external floppy drive - printer dongle - plugs into floppy port to give you a printer port - warrantied until some time November (22nd I think), 1998 - all original boxes, manuals, sales receipt, AC adapter Broken/missing (I mention these because I want you to know *exactly* what you're getting. So far as I know, these are the only problems with the machine): - Rubber feet on the bottom have come off. I still have them if you want to try to glue them back on, although you may be better off buying some generic rubber feet with adhesive already attached. EZ-Serv wanted $320 to fix this go figure. - Crack in plastic of upper right, near hinge. This is cosmetic only, as the plastic here serves no function other than to cover the space the keyboard folds up into. EZ-Serve refused to repair it under warranty, even though they broke it. :-( I can epoxy it if you like. - The installed PCMCIA cover has hole in it to allow you to attach dongles and cables to your PCMCIA cards. It is cracked, but stays in place just fine (you wouldn't know it's cracked unless you remove it - EZ-Serv broke this too). The blank (covers the hole) is missing - I put it somewhere for safekeeping, and now I can't remember where... - Missing original system files which I've long since wiped. It was Windows 3.1 anyway. Also included: - Spare NiMH battery (Used about a dozen times, should hold about 3 hours of charge - Fn-F2 reports 3:24 remaining on a full charge, as opposed to 3:28 when it was new. Speaking of which, the other battery reports 2:44 but lasted a little more than 2:15 when I tested it running without any powersaving features enabled.) Optional: - TP701 Portfolio - $25. It's a leather wrap-around case that makes the 701 look like an organizer. It leaves the sides exposed so you can still plug in power, modem, the floppy, dongles, etc. without removing it from the Portfolio. - 10bT Ethernet card, IBM credit card adapter - $25. Has given years of flawless use first with my TP750, then with my TP701, under DOS, Win3.1, OS/2, Win95, and Linux. The dongle has proven remarkably robust, emerging undamaged from minor bumps and falls. Much better than my modem dongle which broke the first time my laptop fell 6 inches from my lap to the sofa... Your choice of Linux or Win95 OSR2 pre-installed (because it's a royal pain to install any modern OS without a network or CD-ROM :-). I have a minimum price in mind, so if I don't get offered enough, I will just go ahead and put it on ebay. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 24 22:21:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA16049 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09209; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:19:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:17:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09067; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:17:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09051; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm ([12.79.16.233]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980925021656.WQAW7481@ibm>; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:16:56 +0000 From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "Thinkpad" , "Ken" Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Win95 screen resets to 640x480 after some crashes Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:14:05 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980925021656.WQAW7481@ibm> List-Unsubscribe: The 760ED had a VERY similar problem! It was traced to a faulty DIMM carrier - I had mone replaced under warranty. This is probably some sort of memory issue - contact EZ Serve and INSIST on an answer. ---------- > From: Ken > To: Thinkpad > Subject: [TP770ED] Win95 screen resets to 640x480 after some crashes > Date: Thursday, September 24, 1998 9:40 PM > > Not infrequently, my 770ed crashes while booting Windows 95, usually soon > after the Windows 95 wallpaper is displayed, but before anything else gets > to happen. I get a blue screen, with an exception in "PIC(1) VXD" or > something like that. Ctrl-Alt-Del brings up the task list (which is mostly > empty), and I can Shut Down. If I then turn the computer on again, it > always works. > > I realize there are many possible problems, including software I'm running. > (One theory I have involves whether I have the screen closed during > bootup. It seems not to crash when I have the screen opened the whole > time, but I haven't proven this yet.) > > Anyway, one of the horrible side effects of this, and many other crashes, > is that my screen resolution resets from 1024x768 to 640x480, causing all > my desktop icons to get mushed together. > > 1) Does anyone know what might be causing this crash? > 2) Does anyone know a straightforward way to keep the display from changing > resolution? Like, somewhere at bootup, before the GUI loads, to be able to > force the appropriate registry key (as far as I can see, it's > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Config\0001\Display\Settings\Resolution that changes on > my system) to "1024,768" automatically, so that when these crashes happen, > I still boot in the right resolution? > > Thanks for any help. I hope this turns out to be on-topic for Thinkpads. > > Ken > - kenzo@free-music.com > - - http://free-music.com/ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 01:10:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA18462 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14707; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:09:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:07:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14386; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14374; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (241.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.241]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA14375; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360BCDF7.9EF9E497@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:08:08 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robtking@prioritysolutions.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [701] Features Reinstallation References: <000301bde815$43715520$a1f69bce@thud> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Yes, i can.. IF you enter the setup while windows is running and make a change, then exit, win95 will change the setting back to what IT wants.. as seen in system properties.. this usually involves irq's.. when this occured (with a 760CD and a 701 more recently) i did not make notes, i just cursed inventivly and learned to make the change from a DOS session.. then it would stick.. Robert W. King wrote: > Hi Bill! > > > Be aware that win9x can change the bios settings if you change > > something in system properties. > > Interesting! Could you expand on that please? > > -- > Robert W. King > I'm an ingenieur, NOT a bloody locomotive driver! > SnailNet: 19023 TV Tower Rd, Winslow, Arkansas 72959 > BellNet: 501-634-2086 > InterNet: robtking@prioritysolutions.com > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/k/i/n/Robert-W-King/index.html -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 01:14:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA18521 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14996; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:12:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14838; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14826; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:12:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (241.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.241]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA15053; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360BCF0C.F36DA1C1@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:12:44 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Markowitz CC: Thinkpad , Ken Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Win95 screen resets to 640x480 after some crashes References: <19980925021656.WQAW7481@ibm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bruce.. his memory configueration is not mentioned.. the 760ED bug was due to TWO DIMM's installed.. it was cureable by removing ONE of the DIMM's... Bruce Markowitz wrote: > The 760ED had a VERY similar problem! It was traced to a faulty DIMM > carrier - I had mone replaced under warranty. This is probably some sort of > memory issue - contact EZ Serve and INSIST on an answer. > > ---------- > > From: Ken > > To: Thinkpad > > Subject: [TP770ED] Win95 screen resets to 640x480 after some crashes > > Date: Thursday, September 24, 1998 9:40 PM > > > > Not infrequently, my 770ed crashes while booting Windows 95, usually soon > > after the Windows 95 wallpaper is displayed, but before anything else > gets > > to happen. I get a blue screen, with an exception in "PIC(1) VXD" or > > something like that. Ctrl-Alt-Del brings up the task list (which is > mostly > > empty), and I can Shut Down. If I then turn the computer on again, it > > always works. > > > > I realize there are many possible problems, including software I'm > running. > > (One theory I have involves whether I have the screen closed during > > bootup. It seems not to crash when I have the screen opened the whole > > time, but I haven't proven this yet.) > > > > Anyway, one of the horrible side effects of this, and many other crashes, > > is that my screen resolution resets from 1024x768 to 640x480, causing all > > my desktop icons to get mushed together. > > > > 1) Does anyone know what might be causing this crash? > > 2) Does anyone know a straightforward way to keep the display from > changing > > resolution? Like, somewhere at bootup, before the GUI loads, to be able > to > > force the appropriate registry key (as far as I can see, it's > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Config\0001\Display\Settings\Resolution that changes > on > > my system) to "1024,768" automatically, so that when these crashes > happen, > > I still boot in the right resolution? > > > > Thanks for any help. I hope this turns out to be on-topic for Thinkpads. > > > > Ken > > - kenzo@free-music.com > > - - http://free-music.com/ken -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 01:21:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA18580 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15373; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:15:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15151; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:15:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15138; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (241.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.241]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA15805; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:15:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360BCFFA.655459AC@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:16:42 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Monitor looked like it was melting! References: <199809240809.EAA20089@mail.binghamton.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ken.. it was not the screen that was melting, it was the video driver.. :-) i have seen this occur only a couple of times.. its just a colorful crash..! Ken wrote: > Here's an eerie thing that just happened on my 770ed: > > In Windows 95, I got a blue screen exception. I don't remember what it > was, but the file that failed was "PPPxxx.VXD", where I don't remember what > xxx was. Anyway, I hit enter to resume my session, and the screen remained > on the blue screen, but got horizontal lines all over it (as if it were an > interlaced image that hadn't finished loading). Then, within a couple of > seconds, I noticed that the screen started filling up with a color. Maybe > it was a green or grayish color. Anyway, it came on the whole screen at > once, but started out very dim and got brighter and brighter, like there > was liquid leaking or something. It was REALLY WEIRD. It looked like > something was gradually oozing into the insides of my screen. > > Anyway, I got sufficiently freaked out, and hit the reset button, and the > screen went instantly black. > > Any theories on what was going on? I've never seen a computer screen do > anything like this, but, then again, I haven't used many laptops in my life. > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com > http://free-music.com/ken -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 01:29:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA18678 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15935; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:26:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15765; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15752; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user (bing46.net107.binghamton.edu [128.226.107.46]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA28670; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:26:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809250526.BAA28670@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:26:04 -0400 To: Bill Morrow , Bruce Markowitz From: Ken Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Win95 screen resets to 640x480 after some crashes Cc: Thinkpad In-Reply-To: <360BCF0C.F36DA1C1@icanect.net> References: <19980925021656.WQAW7481@ibm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >Bruce Markowitz wrote: >> The 760ED had a VERY similar problem! It was traced to a faulty DIMM >> carrier - I had mone replaced under warranty. This is probably some sort of >> memory issue - contact EZ Serve and INSIST on an answer. At 01:12 PM 9/25/98 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: >his memory configueration is not mentioned.. the 760ED bug was due to TWO >DIMM's installed.. it was cureable by removing ONE of the DIMM's... >Bruce Markowitz wrote: >> > From: Ken >> > to happen. I get a blue screen, with an exception in "PIC(1) VXD" or >> > is that my screen resolution resets from 1024x768 to 640x480, causing all My 770ED has the 32MB that comes in one slot, plus 64MB that I put in the second slot. Are you suggesting that if I remove one of them (I'll pick the 32MB), this might cause the error to stop popping up? Ken - kenzo@free-music.com - - http://free-music.com/ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 01:33:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA18721 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16256; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:31:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16148; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16121; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:31:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (241.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.241]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA17738; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360BD3B0.E5B30462@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:32:32 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Love and Jones Webmaster CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Jane Loyless Subject: Re: [TP 755CD] Green Screen update... References: <199809232054.QAA11875@illustrious> <199809241645.MAA16307@rodney> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Duke.. call IBM at 800-772-2227 and give them the serial number.. my bet is, however, that the machine is out of warranty.. Love and Jones Webmaster wrote: > > At 01:55 PM 9/23/98 +0800, Love and Jones Webmaster wrote: > > > > >At least (hopefully) I can now get it repaired at my lesiure, > > >instead of worrying about a short or video failure. > > > > > > > How much more time do you have on the warranty? I wouldn't be *too* > > leisurely about it. > > > > Don't know exactly. I bought it from someone who probably got it from > someone else. I wonder if I could call IBM, and find out if it had been > registered, and find out if there is any more time left on the warranty. > > Duke -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 02:23:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA19280 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17798; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:19:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17652; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:19:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17640; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:19:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (241.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.241]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA28459; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360BDEE8.C085596D@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:20:24 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Schumann CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hibernation and FAT32 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Chris.. It is meaningless since PQMagic will convert back and forth between fat16 and fat32, BUT, even more meaningless when one considers that the recovery process by its very need will erase the entire "C:" partition anyway.. so, fat32 is OK on the "C:" drive, IMO.. your 750 should run win95B with fat32, but win98 won't load since the cpu is too slow.. win95 will tell you: "Can't run on a cpu that is 66mhz or less, OK?" so if you want to learn what molassas in winter looks like (win98) load it up on a HDD in a faster machine and hope that win98 does not further check cpu speed and give you another error message like: "cpu is too slow, now exiting, OK?" :-) Chris Schumann wrote: > I just saw this: > > Currently, the Recovery CD that ships with some ThinkPads do not support > the recovery process to a FAT32 partition. For this reason, IBM recommends > that the primary partition on the hard drive remain a FAT16 partition, > however any additional partitions may be converted to FAT32. It is also > recommended that the hibernation file reside on a FAT16 partition, > although it will work if installed on a FAT32 partition > > at this web page: > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3XJUHW.html > > So it looks as if IBM supports hibernation files on a FAT32 partition, but > I assume you'd need a current BIOS for that to work. > > Has anyone tried this on an older machine (like my 750P)? > > Chris Schumann -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 04:14:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA20183 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:14:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22301; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:10:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22042; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21753; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p04.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.73]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA27381; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809250806.BAA27381@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bill Morrow" Date: Fri, 25 Sep 98 01:09:21 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TPALL: Cheap sources of memory? List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:56:45 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: >Paul.. >if the dead mouse is due to the trackpoint, then it can be replaced.. along with the keyboard.. >$50 ~ >but first, check the ribbon cable under the keyboard where it plugs into the system board.. it >might be loose or disconnected.. > Let's just say that the mouse is not attached to the keyboard. It LITERALLY broke off. :( And there's other problems with my current 701 anyways. Plus, 2 machines are faster combined than one machine. :) -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 08:07:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA21519 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04390; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:04:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04224; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.mv.net (root@mercury.mv.net [199.125.85.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04199; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from summit.msc.com (meisner.mv.com [207.22.43.6]) by mercury.mv.net (8.8.8/mem-971025) with SMTP id IAA08110 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmo.msc.com by summit.msc.com (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id aa001300 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:31:51 -0400 From: "Steve Meisner" To: "Bill Morrow" Cc: Subject: RE: Hibernation and FAT32 Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:31:32 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bde878$0c2c6ec0$0b00a8c0@homer.msc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <360BDEE8.C085596D@icanect.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Actually, I've been running Win98 on a TP760ED for some time now and it's doing fine...no weirdness! Only thing is long pause sometimes during startup (after log in) only when docked in a SAD-III. Not standalone or in a Dock II. But then again I can't "Eject PC" when docked in a Dock II...I'll never get this to work exactly the way I want!! Steve -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 2:20 PM To: Chris Schumann Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hibernation and FAT32 Chris.. It is meaningless since PQMagic will convert back and forth between fat16 and fat32, BUT, even more meaningless when one considers that the recovery process by its very need will erase the entire "C:" partition anyway.. so, fat32 is OK on the "C:" drive, IMO.. your 750 should run win95B with fat32, but win98 won't load since the cpu is too slow.. win95 will tell you: "Can't run on a cpu that is 66mhz or less, OK?" so if you want to learn what molassas in winter looks like (win98) load it up on a HDD in a faster machine and hope that win98 does not further check cpu speed and give you another error message like: "cpu is too slow, now exiting, OK?" :-) Chris Schumann wrote: > I just saw this: > > Currently, the Recovery CD that ships with some ThinkPads do not support > the recovery process to a FAT32 partition. For this reason, IBM recommends > that the primary partition on the hard drive remain a FAT16 partition, > however any additional partitions may be converted to FAT32. It is also > recommended that the hibernation file reside on a FAT16 partition, > although it will work if installed on a FAT32 partition > > at this web page: > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3XJUHW.html > > So it looks as if IBM supports hibernation files on a FAT32 partition, but > I assume you'd need a current BIOS for that to work. > > Has anyone tried this on an older machine (like my 750P)? > > Chris Schumann -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 08:14:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA21557 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:14:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04759; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:13:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:11:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04599; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucy.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04587; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:11:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from mail.az.com (seawesta-132.az.com [204.201.18.132]) by lucy.az.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA21739 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 05:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809251205.FAA21739@lucy.az.com> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 05:05:28 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760E drive letters X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.50 b48 List-Unsubscribe: Went to install PC DOS 7 on a 760E. Everything went OK until I tried to install the CD-ROM drivers for DOS/3.1. Now it says that there are not enough drive letters. This is on the 5.1G HD. Lastdrive=z, no lastdrive statement makes no difference. The DOS partition is 408megs & is preceeded only by OS/2 boot manager. I've tried it with all the other partitions laid out & with only boot manager & the DOS C: partition, the rest freespace, no difference. Needless to say, it made installing win98 impossible since there was no way to access the CD. I eventually got it installed by copying the CD to the hard drive (different partition) but when I was done, 98 had no ROM drive. But somewhere along the way I did manage to get it to install correctly from the CD but later I found that it was again missing & that the DOS was booting up with not enough drive letters again. Hardware manager says it's installed OK but it does not show up in my computer, command line or explorer. I've got the latest BIOS installed. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, thanks... later...jerry (jfreeman@az.com) Fri, 09/25/98 at 04:53AM Mt. Baker OS/2 Users Group WARNING! This document was created and transmitted using OS/2 WARP 4, the most advanced 32 bit operating system in the world. Installation of this software on your machine will cause increased productivity, Power User Syndrome and cause you to make your own decisions about how you want to use your work station. Get Warped at your own risk! ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 12:19:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26597 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:19:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16684; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:17:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:14:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16249; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16229; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from librettoII.hlb.cable.rcn.com (r7a006661ax.hlb.cable.rcn.com [209.122.66.230]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA19644; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:14:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by librettoII.hlb.cable.rcn.com (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:13:55 -0400 From: "Robert Briganti" To: "EConsultants" , Subject: Re: CD ROM Drives Needed Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:13:55 -0400 Message-ID: <0ef301bde89f$7e8a9f60$0100a8c0@p5-166x2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0d Unregistered List-Unsubscribe: Check out this site. They're advertising the internal 4X for $24. I made a purchase from them several months ago and everything went OK. http://www.centrix-intl.com/LIST.htm -----Original Message----- From: EConsultants To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 12:01 Subject: CD ROM Drives Needed > >We need a couple of IBM CD ROM drives, new or used >to fit a 760XL thinkpad and docking station... > >Would appreciate a contact from any of you people who >sometimes have CD ROM drives available... or the >name/ address of a vendor who sells them... > 4x, 6x, 8x, 20x all ok... > >All my sources say they are discontinued. > >Thanks. > >Todd > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 13:24:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA28980 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20129; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:20:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19861; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:20:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm04sm.pmm.mci.net (pm04sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.153]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19849; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:20:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from usr33-dialup4.mix1.Bloomington.cw.net by PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27036) with SMTP id <0EZU00785O5EAW@PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:20:05 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:20:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Footpads (Was: TP701 for sale) In-reply-to: To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <360bce90.11310006@mailrelay.mci2000.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable References: List-Unsubscribe: >- Rubber feet on the bottom have come off. I still have them if you > want to try to glue them back on, although you may be better off > buying some generic rubber feet with adhesive already attached. > EZ-Serv wanted $320 to fix this go figure. Must be Italian designer shoes they're trying to put on there. FWIW, EZServ has replaced mine on two occasions now; all I had to do was ask. The first time, they came off again within a week or two. So, next time I sent the 701 in (for another problem) I included a note asking them to replace the foot pads again and to please use some stronger adhesive. They did and, several months later, it looks as if they're on to stay. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 13:26:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA29018 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15682; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:05:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:01:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15470; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.electricv.com (ns.electricv.com [207.66.81.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15449; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (conslt@localhost) by ns.electricv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA21440 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:00:57 -0600 Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:00:57 -0600 (MDT) From: EConsultants To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: CD ROM Drives Needed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: We need a couple of IBM CD ROM drives, new or used to fit a 760XL thinkpad and docking station... Would appreciate a contact from any of you people who sometimes have CD ROM drives available... or the name/ address of a vendor who sells them... 4x, 6x, 8x, 20x all ok... All my sources say they are discontinued. Thanks. Todd From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 13:41:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA29220 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21004; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:36:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20753; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:36:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20740; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:36:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sony ([12.78.196.207]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980925173502.PDKS9559@sony>; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:35:02 +0000 From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "Bill Morrow" , "Ken" Cc: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Win95 screen resets to 640x480 after some crashes Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:33:08 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980925173502.PDKS9559@sony> List-Unsubscribe: Give it a shot! ---------- > From: Ken > To: Bill Morrow ; Bruce Markowitz > Cc: Thinkpad > Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Win95 screen resets to 640x480 after some crashes > Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 1:26 AM > > >Bruce Markowitz wrote: > >> The 760ED had a VERY similar problem! It was traced to a faulty DIMM > >> carrier - I had mone replaced under warranty. This is probably some sort of > >> memory issue - contact EZ Serve and INSIST on an answer. > At 01:12 PM 9/25/98 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: > >his memory configueration is not mentioned.. the 760ED bug was due to TWO > >DIMM's installed.. it was cureable by removing ONE of the DIMM's... > >Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > >> > From: Ken > >> > to happen. I get a blue screen, with an exception in "PIC(1) VXD" or > >> > is that my screen resolution resets from 1024x768 to 640x480, causing all > > My 770ED has the 32MB that comes in one slot, plus 64MB that I put in the > second slot. Are you suggesting that if I remove one of them (I'll pick > the 32MB), this might cause the error to stop popping up? > > Ken > - kenzo@free-music.com > - - http://free-music.com/ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 14:53:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA00394 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23608; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:49:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:37:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22839; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:37:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22818; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:37:15 PST From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: "EConsultants" , Subject: Re: CD ROM Drives Needed Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:45:18 -0700 Message-ID: <01bde8b4$a44b5680$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: While IBM will sell the 4X's for $99 it's much cheaper to buy them from Mr Thinkpad. (grin) http://www.thinkpads.com/start.htm He shows a price of $24. He also mentioned in an e-mail from a few days ago that there would be no shipping charges for list members. ..peter.. -----Original Message----- From: EConsultants To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 10:02 AM Subject: CD ROM Drives Needed > >We need a couple of IBM CD ROM drives, new or used >to fit a 760XL thinkpad and docking station... > >Would appreciate a contact from any of you people who >sometimes have CD ROM drives available... or the >name/ address of a vendor who sells them... > 4x, 6x, 8x, 20x all ok... > >All my sources say they are discontinued. > >Thanks. > >Todd > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 17:00:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA02144 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:00:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01833; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:54:38 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01536; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:54:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id QAA26827; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:54:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from snail.ecs.umass.edu (snail.ecs.umass.edu [128.119.91.94]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26160; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:19:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu (rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu [128.119.71.47]) by snail.ecs.umass.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA11341 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BDE897.F87A6B00@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu>; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:20:04 -0400 Message-ID: <01BDE897.F87A6B00@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu> From: Axel Hartmann To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: www.thinkpads.com Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:20:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, I know that this list is not meant to advertise commercial interests, everyone will remember the Portable Enhancement spam, but this is the first time I have noticed any mention of Thinkpads.com. I believe Bill Morrow is known as long time list member, and going back now I see the address in his signature, but this is the first time I was made aware of his business! Check out that Web-site! And I haggled through half a dozen stores to get my 701 upgraded at that price (plus shipping ;( )... I have seen the (brightly colored) light! axel bill, forgive me for any unwanted business ;) On Friday, September 25, 1998 2:45 PM, peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: %While IBM will sell the 4X's for $99 it's much cheaper to buy them from Mr %Thinkpad. (grin) %http://www.thinkpads.com/start.htm % ............................................................................ . Axel Hartmann . . Paper'n'People : 33 Meadow Street; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . . Voice : +1 (413) 549 - 6113 , Fax on demand . ............................................................................ . Office : Dept. of Chemical Engineering; UMass; Amherst, MA 01003 . . Office Phone : +1 (413) 577 - 1235 Fax: +1 (413) 545 - 1649 . . E-Mail : axhartma@risky.ecs.umass.edu . . Homepage : http://rheoserver.pse.umass.edu/users/axel/index.html . ............................................................................ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 20:01:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA04533 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07460; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:55:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07262; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07197; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p04.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.73]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA24629 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809252352.QAA24629@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 25 Sep 98 16:53:30 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP701: Uses LBA? List-Unsubscribe: Does the 701 use LBA for hard drives? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 21:06:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA05228 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:06:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09183; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:03:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09070; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:03:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rodney (rodney.concentric.net [207.155.252.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09057; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:02:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earlbrya (ts013d17.sto-ca.concentric.net [207.155.177.125]) by rodney (8.9.1/) id VAA29836; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:02:52 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay] Message-ID: <199809260102.VAA29836@rodney> From: "Love and Jones Webmaster" Organization: Love and Jones Paralegal...The law is on yo To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:02:59 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [TP 755ALL] Re: www.thinkpads.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <01BDE897.F87A6B00@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: > On Friday, September 25, 1998 2:45 PM, peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP > wrote: %While IBM will sell the 4X's for $99 it's much cheaper to buy them > from Mr %Thinkpad. (grin) %http://www.thinkpads.com/start.htm % But, hey...Mr. Thinkpad is a little stingy when it comes to us 755 owners...got any goodies for us (tp755CD-9BE)? Hardly see anything on your site? Duke From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 21:07:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA05241 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09459; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:04:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09208; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rodney (rodney.concentric.net [207.155.252.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09195; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earlbrya (ts013d17.sto-ca.concentric.net [207.155.177.125]) by rodney (8.9.1/) id VAA00469; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:04:32 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay] Message-ID: <199809260104.VAA00469@rodney> From: "Love and Jones Webmaster" Organization: Love and Jones Paralegal...The law is on yo To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:04:45 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [tp 755cd] Whew!! My warrantee Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: Called IBM today. Talk about close calls! My warranty expires on the 30th!!! Duke From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 21:10:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA05286 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09740; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:06:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09500; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09399; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from theriver.com (a29.pm3-31.theriver.com [206.102.195.221]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26339; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:05:19 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <360C3DB9.6ADC9DE1@theriver.com> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:04:57 -0700 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Meisner CC: Bill Morrow , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hibernation and FAT32 References: <000001bde878$0c2c6ec0$0b00a8c0@homer.msc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Does the "Eject PC" option exist on your "Start" button menu when you are docked? If not, you might want to "install" the upgraded Thinkpad Configuration utilities. James Steve Meisner wrote: > > Actually, I've been running Win98 on a TP760ED for some time now and it's > doing fine...no weirdness! > > Only thing is long pause sometimes during startup (after log in) only when > docked in a SAD-III. Not standalone or in a Dock II. But then again I can't > "Eject PC" when docked in a Dock II...I'll never get this to work exactly > the way I want!! > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] > Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 2:20 PM > To: Chris Schumann > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Hibernation and FAT32 > > Chris.. > It is meaningless since PQMagic will convert back and forth between fat16 > and > fat32, BUT, even more meaningless when one considers that the recovery > process > by its very need will erase the entire "C:" partition anyway.. > > so, fat32 is OK on the "C:" drive, IMO.. > > your 750 should run win95B with fat32, but win98 won't load since the cpu is > too slow.. > win95 will tell you: "Can't run on a cpu that is 66mhz or less, OK?" > > so if you want to learn what molassas in winter looks like (win98) load it > up > on a HDD in a faster machine and hope that win98 does not further check cpu > speed and give you another error message like: "cpu is too slow, now > exiting, > OK?" :-) > > Chris Schumann wrote: > > > I just saw this: > > > > Currently, the Recovery CD that ships with some ThinkPads do not support > > the recovery process to a FAT32 partition. For this reason, IBM recommends > > that the primary partition on the hard drive remain a FAT16 partition, > > however any additional partitions may be converted to FAT32. It is also > > recommended that the hibernation file reside on a FAT16 partition, > > although it will work if installed on a FAT32 partition > > > > at this web page: > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3XJUHW.html > > > > So it looks as if IBM supports hibernation files on a FAT32 partition, but > > I assume you'd need a current BIOS for that to work. > > > > Has anyone tried this on an older machine (like my 750P)? > > > > Chris Schumann > > -- > Happy Trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), > 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), > 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), > 755CE(no gig, 40meg), > 750C(no gig, 4meg), > IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 22:25:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA05917 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11725; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:21:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11627; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:21:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11615; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA03289; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:20:55 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:20:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael To: Paul Khoury cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP701: Uses LBA? In-Reply-To: <199809252352.QAA24629@stevie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > Does the 701 use LBA for hard drives? It must because I have a 2.1 gig in mine runing osr2. > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 22:37:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA06024 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12256; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:34:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12177; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12165; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:34:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from theriver.com (a39.pm3-31.theriver.com [206.102.195.231]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13097; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:34:38 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <360C52A8.E27AED78@theriver.com> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:34:16 -0700 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael CC: Paul Khoury , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP701: Uses LBA? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: There is a simple way to detect this. Look at your C: directory. If it is <504MB, then your Thinkpad could not support LBA. If it is >504MB then it should, barring the use of any special drivers, such as Disk Manager, et. al. My Thinkpad 760ED supported LBA, my 360 and 750 did not. However, a BIOS upgrade to both "fixed" this problem. Nice thing about using reprogrammable memory. James Michael wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > > > Does the 701 use LBA for hard drives? > > It must because I have a 2.1 gig in mine runing osr2. > > > > -- > > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > > ICQ#14582895 > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Sep 25 23:16:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA06310 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:16:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13208; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:12:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:10:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13060; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dewdrop2.mindspring.com (dewdrop2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13048; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dts_jl (user-38s054h.dialup.mindspring.com [209.192.20.145]) by dewdrop2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA18880 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980925225905.00a2a470@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:59:05 -0400 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: [tp 755cd] Whew!! My warrantee In-Reply-To: <199809260104.VAA00469@rodney> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 06:04 PM 9/25/98 +0800, you wrote: >Called IBM today. Talk about close calls! My warranty expires on the >30th!!! > LOL - I knew the expiration date was probably getting close because I had a TP755CE that expired in June and a TP755Cse that expired in August. I called in on the last day to get the screen replaced on the Cse. No hassle >from them - the guy on the phone just teased me about waiting until the last minute. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 07:40:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA09742 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 07:40:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01551; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 07:38:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 07:36:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01375; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 07:36:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01358; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 07:36:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id CCXKa02341 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 07:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <81ae8cd5.360cd198@aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 07:35:52 EDT To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Hard Drive Utilization Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: Greetings, I just purchased a 770 and it came with a 3GG hard drive with 2 partitions (C=2GB & D=1GB). I've never had this luxury before and am looking for some suggestions on using the extra D Drive. TIA... John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 09:31:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA10405 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:31:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03235; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:27:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03075; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:27:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03063; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:27:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 770 (user-38ld2h2.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.138.34]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA29157 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:27:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad list" Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:25:08 -0400 Message-ID: <000201bde951$14a321a0$f2bcfea9@770> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <81ae8cd5.360cd198@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Buy a copy of Partition Magic, make both drives Win32 if you can, and set up your second drive as your data drive. Use your first drive for your applications. This is my suggestion, I'm sure others have different suggestions. -----Original Message----- From: JES770@aol.com [mailto:JES770@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, September 26, 1998 7:36 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Hard Drive Utilization Greetings, I just purchased a 770 and it came with a 3GG hard drive with 2 partitions (C=2GB & D=1GB). I've never had this luxury before and am looking for some suggestions on using the extra D Drive. TIA... John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 09:36:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA10440 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:36:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03562; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:34:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:32:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03421; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from onlink4.onlink.net (onlink4.onlink.net [206.108.253.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03409; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nrba2-25.onlink.net (nrba2-25.onlink.net [207.210.99.154]) by onlink4.onlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA117446 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:34:45 -0358 Message-Id: <199809261332.JAA117446@onlink4.onlink.net> From: "Alex Bell" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:25:49 +0000 Reply-To: "Alex Bell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Netscape/Thinkpad/HTML problems List-Unsubscribe: I'm not sure whether these are HTML, Netscape, OS/2, or Thinkpad probems, so please forgive me for posting and mailing to several places. I run the encrypted version of Netscape 2.0.2 for OS/2 without problem on my desktop with OS/2 v4 Fixpack 7. But now that I have installed the same software (with as far as I know the same default settings) on my Thinkpad 385XD I find that -   is shown as a accent acute - which is of course its ASCII value. I do _not_ have the problem with Netscape showing bullets improperly, and have changed from Latin-1 to Latin-2 and back again with no effect. - Netscape will not show the background gif, though the gif is present in the directory. Can anyone help with either of these problems? Regards, Alex http://www.onlink.net/~outreach/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 12:19:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA11898 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:19:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06490; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:17:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:14:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06234; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06204; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-40.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.40]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id MAA13029; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980926121633.01596538@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:16:33 -0400 To: , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Hard Drive Utilization In-Reply-To: <81ae8cd5.360cd198@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 07:35 AM 9/26/98 EDT, JES770@aol.com wrote: >Greetings, > >I just purchased a 770 and it came with a 3GG hard drive with >2 partitions (C=2GB & D=1GB). > >I've never had this luxury before and am looking for some >suggestions on using the extra D Drive. Heh, just use it as you would the C drive. My rule for an extra partition is if an application can be installed on a drive other than C, it gets thrown on a different partition. On my last partition on my 770, I put my permanent swapfile on there set to a fixed size. ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 15:53:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA13957 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11373; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:46:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11050; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11038; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p04.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.73]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA02587; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809261942.MAA02587@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Alex Bell" , "Thinkpad Mailing List" Date: Sat, 26 Sep 98 12:45:00 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Netscape/Thinkpad/HTML problems List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:25:49 +0000, Alex Bell wrote: I'm curious, how did you install Warp 4 on your ThinkPad? I've noticed program dependency and just plain problems working correctly with my diskette installed Warp 4. Now, since I installed off a CD-ROM, things are working. Maybe it's your installation? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 15:53:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA13965 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11377; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:47:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11085; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11064; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p04.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.73]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA02631 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809261943.MAA02631@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 26 Sep 98 12:46:02 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP701: Dock II and OS/2 Warp 4 List-Unsubscribe: Are there any special considerations I need if I'm going to use my 701 with a Dock II and Warp 4? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 16:16:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA14174 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12236; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:06:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11985; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11948; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p04.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.73]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA03273 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 13:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809262002.NAA03273@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 26 Sep 98 13:05:21 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: CD ROM Drives Needed List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:45:18 -0700, peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: >While IBM will sell the 4X's for $99 it's much cheaper to buy them from Mr >Thinkpad. (grin) >http://www.thinkpads.com/start.htm > >He shows a price of $24. >He also mentioned in an e-mail from a few days ago that there would be no >shipping charges for list members. > Speaking of cheaper ThinkPad parts, does anyone here know where I can get another Dock II for under $50? I'd like one for the 750 I have coming (now almost my whole network is composed of notebooks, including a working SPARC). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 16:17:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA14185 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12505; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:08:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12094; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:08:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12080; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:08:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p04.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.73]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA03347; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 13:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809262004.NAA03347@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "sirius@mci2000.com" Date: Sat, 26 Sep 98 13:07:06 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Footpads (Was: TP701 for sale) List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:20:02 +0000 (GMT), sirius@mci2000.com wrote: > >>- Rubber feet on the bottom have come off. I still have them if you >> want to try to glue them back on, although you may be better off >> buying some generic rubber feet with adhesive already attached. >> EZ-Serv wanted $320 to fix this go figure. > >Must be Italian designer shoes they're trying to put on there. FWIW, >EZServ has replaced mine on two occasions now; all I had to do was >ask. The first time, they came off again within a week or two. So, >next time I sent the 701 in (for another problem) I included a note >asking them to replace the foot pads again and to please use some >stronger adhesive. They did and, several months later, it looks as if >they're on to stay. > I guess I've been lucky, because I only need new pads every 6 months or so, and only a few times has one actually come off. They usually get worn out from the ThinkPad being used so much (since I take my 701 almost everywhere). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 16:18:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA14197 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12610; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:08:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12239; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12197; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:08:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p04.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.73]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA03372 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 13:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809262005.NAA03372@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 26 Sep 98 13:07:47 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Dock II List-Unsubscribe: Can I use a Toshiba 3301 1x SCSI-2 CD-ROM in a Dock II (or pretty much any SCSI-2 CD-ROM)? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 17:25:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA14640 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13924; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:03:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13766; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13753; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p04.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.73]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA05296; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 13:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809262058.NAA05296@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Axel Hartmann" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 26 Sep 98 14:00:21 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: recap: Bay Area stores List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:34:57 -0400, Axel Hartmann wrote: >hi all, > >about a month back I asked the list for recommendations of ThinkPad / Computer / Electronics stores in the San Francisco Bay Area. I got quite a lot of hints and want to thank all of you. Here's what I got around to: > >First of all everyone in the Bay Area should be aware how lucky you are - you get two free computing magazines free. MicroTimes was one and it had good feature articles We here in Southern California get the same, and I always enjoy reading a copy of Microtimes. Definitely the best store all around was Fry's. The San Jose one was featured in Wired not too long ago with the Mayan temple theme - pretty cool. I also happened to see the one in Fremont, I believe, which didn't have a theme but was just as impressive. They both had replacement batteries and car-power-adapters for lots and lots of laptops, except for the TP701, which uses a very rare voltage around 10 Volts. I could have gotten it ordered, but I didn't want to wait. Lucky thing, too, because my travel budget was already severely strained. I've never been to Fry's. *Yet*... Are their batteris and RAM for older ThinkPads cheap? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 17:27:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA14657 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:27:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14576; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:23:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14290; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14278; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:23:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm ([12.79.14.120]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980926212257.PQNO27883@ibm>; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:22:57 +0000 From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: Dock II Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:20:11 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980926212257.PQNO27883@ibm> List-Unsubscribe: I am using a Toshiba 32X in a Dock II. Can't see where a SCSI would not work... ---------- > From: Paul Khoury > To: ThinkPad List > Subject: Dock II > Date: Saturday, September 26, 1998 5:07 PM > > Can I use a Toshiba 3301 1x SCSI-2 CD-ROM in a Dock II (or pretty much any SCSI-2 > CD-ROM)? > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 17:28:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA14665 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14641; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:24:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14410; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14397; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:24:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm ([12.79.14.120]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980926212354.PQUW27883@ibm>; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:23:54 +0000 From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "Paul Khoury" , Subject: Re: CD ROM Drives Needed Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:21:09 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980926212354.PQUW27883@ibm> List-Unsubscribe: Under $50.00, no Under $100 with an Ethernet card installed, yes. ---------- > From: Paul Khoury > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: CD ROM Drives Needed > Date: Saturday, September 26, 1998 5:05 PM > > On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:45:18 -0700, peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: > > >While IBM will sell the 4X's for $99 it's much cheaper to buy them from Mr > >Thinkpad. (grin) > >http://www.thinkpads.com/start.htm > > > >He shows a price of $24. > >He also mentioned in an e-mail from a few days ago that there would be no > >shipping charges for list members. > > > > Speaking of cheaper ThinkPad parts, does anyone here know where I can get another > Dock II for under $50? > > I'd like one for the 750 I have coming (now almost my whole network is composed of notebooks, > including a working SPARC). > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 18:29:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA15700 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16147; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:24:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16016; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:24:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.netwiz.net (Mail.NetWiz.Net [208.136.106.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16004; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.135.14.29] (SoCal56k142.NetWiz.Net [208.135.14.42]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA16049 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:24:49 -0700 X-Sender: mikeford@mail.netwiz.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199809262058.NAA05296@ritchie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:24:46 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mike Ford Subject: You want Fry's with that? List-Unsubscribe: >I've never been to Fry's. *Yet*... > >Are their batteris and RAM for older ThinkPads cheap? Fry's ad prices are designed to gut the competition, and rarely do you see them beat, but regular day to day prices often are mediocre. I would not buy ram from Fry's under most circumstances due to the cheesy warranty policies they have (ie ad special simms are 30 day warranty or 1 year, same simm double price is lifetime etc.). From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 19:03:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA17337 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16938; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:02:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:00:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16779; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16767; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p04.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.73]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA09141; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809262256.PAA09141@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Mike Ford" Date: Sat, 26 Sep 98 15:59:10 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: You want Fry's with that? List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:24:46 -0700, Mike Ford wrote: >>I've never been to Fry's. *Yet*... >> >>Are their batteris and RAM for older ThinkPads cheap? > >Fry's ad prices are designed to gut the competition, and rarely do you see >them beat, They sure do a good job of it as well. I've heard both good AND bad stuff about the,/ -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 19:51:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA18103 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:51:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19100; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:49:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18916; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:49:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terror.mcmurdo.gov (root@terror.mcmurdo.gov [157.132.107.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18901; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:48:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from h014-s204.mcmurdo.gov (h014-s204.mcmurdo.gov [157.132.204.14]) by terror.mcmurdo.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA23939 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:34:43 GMT Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:34:34 +1200 From: Peter Lund To: ThinkPad List Subject: [TPALL] TrackPoint Message-ID: <657974727.906896074@h014-s204.mcmurdo.gov> Originator-Info: login-id=pml; server=terror.mcmurdo.gov X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.0b4, s/n U-300986] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Hello, When I stop moving my TrackPoint it almost always wants to continue moving the cursor about a 1/2 inch to the left before it settles down. I've adjusted the sensitivity to both extremes but that doesn't seem to make a difference. Anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? Thanks, -- Peter Lund Network Administrator -- mailto:pml@io.com Antarctic Support Associates -- Currently residing at McMurdo Station http://www.io.com/~pml/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 20:34:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA22469 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:34:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20042; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:32:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19896; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19884; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:32:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from theriver.com (a26.pm3-28.theriver.com [206.102.195.26]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07616; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:32:32 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <360D878A.802CBC71@theriver.com> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:32:10 -0700 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Lund CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: [TPALL] TrackPoint References: <657974727.906896074@h014-s204.mcmurdo.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Does this happen all the time, or at random? If it happens without your assistance, it might be the way you are using the device. If it happens all the time, the internal workings of the Trackpoint might be damaged and require replacement of the keyboard assembly by IBM's EZ-Serv system. In any case, the problem is not yours alone. I had the same problem until I learned to handle it by retraining myself on how to use the Trackpoint device. James Peter Lund wrote: > > Hello, > > When I stop moving my TrackPoint it almost always wants to continue moving > the cursor about a 1/2 inch to the left before it settles down. I've > adjusted the sensitivity to both extremes but that doesn't seem to make a > difference. > > Anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? > > Thanks, > > -- > Peter Lund > Network Administrator -- mailto:pml@io.com > Antarctic Support Associates -- Currently residing at McMurdo Station > http://www.io.com/~pml/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 20:56:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA22660 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20628; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:56:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:53:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20505; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:53:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20493; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:53:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from Sharon888@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id CUORa02083 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:52:44 +2000 (EDT) Message-ID: <9467a310.360d8c5c@aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:52:44 EDT To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Upgrading ThinkPad 701C to Windows 98 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 82 List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone with a ThinkPad 701C upgraded to Windows 98? Mine is still running Windows 3.1. I never did the upgrade to Windows 95, but would like to upgrade to Windows 98. Is there anything I should watch our for? Thanks for your help. Sharon From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 22:59:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA26625 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:59:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23957; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:57:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23785; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23773; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:56:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AMDK6266 ([205.130.17.196]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 9472200 ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:05:28 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01bde9c0$18435360$c41182cd@AMDK6266.TECHGAP.innernet.net> Reply-To: "Slip" From: "Slip" To: , Subject: Re: Upgrading ThinkPad 701C to Windows 98 Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:39:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >Has anyone with a ThinkPad 701C upgraded to Windows 98? Mine is still running >Windows 3.1. I never did the upgrade to Windows 95, but would like to upgrade >to Windows 98. Is there anything I should watch our for? I personally don't have 98 on my 701c, but I'v heard of a fiew quirks. First thing is the deal with FAT32. If you convert the HD to FAT32, you need to be sure to create another partition for the hybernation space(if you use hybernation). Some have reported that the 701 does not suspend correctly, but I'll leave it up to other TP701 users to fill you on.(don't know for sure) I reccomend also going to Bill Morrow's page at: http://www.thinkpads.com/win98b3.htm This page deals specificly on installing/using Win98 on a 701. Good luck and keep us posted! -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 23:07:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA26709 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:07:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24520; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:07:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:05:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24260; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24247; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AMDK6266 ([205.130.17.196]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 9479300 ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:14:09 -0400 Message-ID: <001301bde9c1$4f3e8820$c41182cd@AMDK6266.TECHGAP.innernet.net> Reply-To: "Slip" From: "Slip" To: Subject: [701]-Undoccumented features in BIOS... Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:48:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I was playing around one day and accidently found out about the built-in low-level formatter in the BIOS. (I assumed this was what it was-all I know is that I had no hard drive left!) Just wonderin why IBM didn't put this into the doccumentation. Sure, it only takes on try to see what it does, but that's a pretty bad mode of thought for letting people know what exactly that little icon is...:-) Furthermore, does anyone know what this actually does? I mean, is it a low level format, or a simple high-level format? I'v been told to never do a LLF on ANY drive, or it'll never be the same as it was beforeas far as speed. Anyone? Also like to know if there any other cool hidden things like this 701 users know of. Thanks, preciate it. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 23:16:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA26792 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24916; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:14:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24743; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24731; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:14:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p17.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.86]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA24746; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809270311.UAA24746@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Slip" , "Slip" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 26 Sep 98 20:13:00 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [701]-Undoccumented features in BIOS... List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:48:28 -0400, Slip wrote: >Hi, > I was playing around one day and accidently found out about the built-in >low-level formatter in the BIOS. (I assumed this was what it was-all I know >is that I had no hard drive left!) Just wonderin why IBM didn't put this >into the doccumentation. Sure, it only takes on try to see what it does, but >that's a pretty bad mode of thought for letting people know what exactly >that little icon is...:-) Furthermore, does anyone know what this actually >does? I mean, is it a low level format, or a simple high-level format? It's a low level format alright, and I did the same mistake you did. :( Now I did worse - I fried the board on my 720MB drive while it was hooked up to my P200 (I now have a 1.4GB in my 701, quieter, faster, and supports SMART). I'v >been told to never do a LLF on ANY drive, or it'll never be the same as it >was beforeas far as speed. Anyone? I've never heard that. I've done low level formats on nearly every HD type except ESDI, and had no problems whatsoever. But these days, except with SCSI occasionally, it's really not that nessecary. Also like to know if there any other cool >hidden things like this 701 users know of. Yeah, Fn or CRTL-Page up or down to change the colors in the BIOS screen when you first get to it. Not Fn-F1, but when you boot up. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Sep 26 23:56:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA27108 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26010; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:54:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25855; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:54:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rocky-out.summa4.com ([208.7.172.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25842; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:54:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hal.summa4.com by rocky-out.summa4.com via smtpd (for CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) with SMTP; 27 Sep 1998 03:54:10 UT Received: from localhost (kend@localhost) by hal.summa4.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA06540; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:54:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: hal.summa4.com: kend owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:54:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" To: Slip cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [701]-Undoccumented features in BIOS... In-Reply-To: <001301bde9c1$4f3e8820$c41182cd@AMDK6266.TECHGAP.innernet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > does? I mean, is it a low level format, or a simple high-level format? I'v > been told to never do a LLF on ANY drive, or it'll never be the same as it > was beforeas far as speed. Anyone? Also like to know if there any other cool Nope -- what you've heard about was the infamous "don't low level format an IDE drive" thing. And, yes, it used to be true. The problem was that the way physical hard drive errors were compensated for varied from vendor to vendor, and it could cause grief if you used a "generic" low-level format. I don't quite recall all the details (as the last article I read on this was something like four+ years ago), but that's been all fixed up now -- they either conform to a given standard, or the folks at variance are known, and compensated for. So, aside from the fact that your data is entirely irretrievable, no, you haven't caused any damage. ;-) Ken D'Ambrosio Sr. SysAdmin, Summa Four, Inc. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 00:04:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA27153 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26569; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:04:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:02:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26339; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.1.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26327; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.194]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA30263 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 06:02:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.43); 27 Sep 98 06:02:01 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.43); 27 Sep 98 06:02:00 +0200 Received: from magrathea.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.149) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.43) with ESMTP; 27 Sep 98 06:01:59 +0200 Received: from localhost (babylon5.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.2]) by Magrathea.stelarcom.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA04788 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:45:44 +0200 Message-Id: <199809261745.TAA04788@Magrathea.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:45:44 -0100 Reply-To: "Alexander Wanger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: MPEG, 760XD, OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: Hi! Following problem: Installed OS/2, Thinkpad-Features and drivers, everything's fine. If I instal the MM-Plugins from NetScape/2 I've no problems showing MPEG-Vidos. But the 760 has hardware decoding, and I'd like to use it of course. But if I add the Hardware-decoders to my setup I can't show many MPEGs! I simply get a normal Video-frame, green background inside, and after some seconds the window is closed. No video. The same videos work without probs if I install only the MM-Plugins. So I think OS/2 doesn't distinguish between the ones which can be hardware decoded and the ones which have to be software decoded (although I switchted to "hardware if available" and also tried "software only" in MM-configuration notebook). Any hints how I can get this working? -- CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You may also reply to Alexander.Wagner@gmx.de or Alexander.Wagner@gmx.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 11:01:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA01137 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:01:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04919; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 10:58:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04464; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 10:58:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (root@tam.dorsai.org [206.127.32.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04438; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 10:58:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA04981 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:00:35 -0400 (EDT) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA07417 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809271500.LAA07417@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: [560e] Sound Card Snag To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:00:32 -0400 (edt) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Two weeks ago I was bitching about too many sounds. Now it's not enough. Tried to run RealAudio RealPlayer 6.01 beta 1.1 for the first time and it seemed to run but wouldn't emit any sound. Poking around, I noticed that my machine isn't seeing a sound card. Control Panel>System shows a subheading under Sound, Video, Game Controllers with a red "x" beside ESS 1688 AudioDrive. I downloaded and installed a new driver but there was no change. The thing chirps and bleeps loudly enough, but now plays no RealAudio, wavs, etc. There *is* a sound card in here, isn't there? And yes, for those of you snickering, I turned the volume up... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins Broadcasting & Cable Magazine higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 11:35:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA01381 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07713; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:33:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07559; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07547; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:33:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AMDK6266 ([205.130.17.195]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 9821000 ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:41:40 -0400 Message-ID: <000c01bdea29$bc6471e0$c31182cd@AMDK6266.TECHGAP.innernet.net> Reply-To: "Slip" From: "Slip" To: "John Higgins" , Subject: Re: [560e] Sound Card Snag Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:15:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >seeing a sound card. Control Panel>System shows a subheading under Sound, >Video, Game Controllers with a red "x" beside ESS 1688 AudioDrive. If you go under Control Panel>system, double click on the sound card. In the properties, make sure that the sound card is enabled(the box 'disable in this profile', will be checked if it's disabled). It's obviously just Win95/98 and not the system.(it wouldn't be bleeping and blirping at you if the sound card was bad) Just my $.56... -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 13:24:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02209 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 13:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09594; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:39:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08436; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08286; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:39:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:38:37 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (ad08-056.arl.compuserve.com [199.174.135.56]) by hil-img-ims-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id LAA28318; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360E5BE1.502A020B@csc.com> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 10:38:09 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sharon888@aol.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Upgrading ThinkPad 701C to Windows 98 References: <9467a310.360d8c5c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Beware, Win98 won't install unless your processor runs at 66MHz or above. I don't know if you have the DX2-50 or the DX4-75. If you've got the 75 you should be OK. Also, unless you've got 32MB of memory in the 701, running Win98 could be a painfully slow process. Good luck, Rob Sharon888@aol.com wrote: > > Has anyone with a ThinkPad 701C upgraded to Windows 98? Mine is still running > Windows 3.1. I never did the upgrade to Windows 95, but would like to upgrade > to Windows 98. Is there anything I should watch our for? > > Thanks for your help. > > Sharon ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ----------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 13:28:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02235 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 13:28:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11301; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:44:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09773; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@sammy.netpathway.com [208.137.139.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09453; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:43:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ericgile (port4-wayn.netpathway.com [208.137.139.201]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA10030 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 10:43:07 -0500 Message-ID: <002001bdea2c$d310dc00$c98b89d0@ericgile> From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: Re: [560e] Sound Card Snag Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 10:38:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: John- First thing I would check is to see if the sound has been disabled. Go to your Thinkpad features program and click on the button with the speaker icon. This will let you enable or disable the onboard sound. It may also be caused by a resource conflict due to new additional hardware or changed settings. The properties for that device in the Device Manager will tell you. Eric Giles >Two weeks ago I was bitching about too many sounds. Now it's not enough. >Tried to run RealAudio RealPlayer 6.01 beta 1.1 for the first time and it >seemed to run but wouldn't emit any sound. Poking around, I noticed that >my machine isn't >seeing a sound card. Control Panel>System shows a subheading under Sound, >Video, Game Controllers with a red "x" beside ESS 1688 AudioDrive. I >downloaded and installed a new driver but there was no change. The >thing chirps and bleeps loudly enough, but now plays no RealAudio, >wavs, etc. There *is* a sound card in here, isn't there? And yes, for >those of you snickering, I turned the volume up... > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > John M. Higgins > Broadcasting & Cable Magazine > higgins@dorsai.org > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 15:45:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA03183 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:45:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01042; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:45:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:38:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28052; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27576; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:37:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ts_slug.cs.duke.edu (s-rick.cs.duke.edu [152.3.134.63]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA14972 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809271936.PAA14972@duke.cs.duke.edu> X-Sender: rick@duke.cs.duke.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:36:26 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Rick Floyd Subject: 770ED: Using Trackpoint auto-disable with external mouse? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I'd like to use an external mouse (Kensington Expert Mouse) on a Thinkpad 770ED running various Evil Empire operating systems (95, NT). When I tried this under 95 OSR2, just plugging the mouse into the external PS/2 port didn't work, with either the Trackpoint or Kensington drivers. The external mouse was ignored. There's an auto-disable mode for the Trackpoint that I was hoping would allow me to switch automatically, but it caused sporadic behavior with both drivers. More often that not, neither mouse worked after a resume. About the only thing I've found that does seem to work is to totally disable the Trackpoint when I want to use the external mouse, to reboot, and to use the Kensington drivers. This is all pretty painful when I'm moving around a lot and can only sometimes use the external mouse. Has someone gotten this to work in a less awkward fashion? What's a little amazing to me is that this did all work on my 765, with no intervention at all required. So much for progress... rick From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 16:04:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA03311 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05762; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:58:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04425; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:58:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04382; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:57:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA00557; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 09:57:45 -1000 Message-ID: <001f01bdea50$cb73f760$ac1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "John Higgins" , Subject: Re: [560e] Sound Card Snag Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:55:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: After you make sure that it is actually enabled in the ThinkPad Features program, you might want to expunge it from W95, then have W95 reinstall it (and thereby find a good set of interrupts etc.) In the windows/inf directory you'll find a pair of drv*.bin files; either delete or rename these, delete the sound card in the System window, then reboot. W95 will create a new driver database (the .bin files), and find the sound card - you can then tell it where your new drivers are. BTW, the last time I did this (after a bad directx experience) I still had no sound; I had to muck around with manual choice of interrupts and dma for the card until I found one that worked. Don't know why. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 16:52:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA03664 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20114; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:52:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:35:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15101; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14348; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (139.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.139]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id QAA29610; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360EA1AD.4A17DC10@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:35:57 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Lund CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: [TPALL] TrackPoint References: <657974727.906896074@h014-s204.mcmurdo.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Peter.. don't rest your finger on the trackpoint tip when you are not using it.. it adjusts itself and then picks up the pressure as non movement and adjusts for it.. then when you remove your finger, it takes time for it to realize it requires more adjustment,, thats when it stops.. Peter Lund wrote: > > Hello, > > When I stop moving my TrackPoint it almost always wants to continue moving > the cursor about a 1/2 inch to the left before it settles down. I've > adjusted the sensitivity to both extremes but that doesn't seem to make a > difference. > > Anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? > > Thanks, > > -- > Peter Lund > Network Administrator -- mailto:pml@io.com > Antarctic Support Associates -- Currently residing at McMurdo Station > http://www.io.com/~pml/ -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 16:53:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA03671 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:52:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20159; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:36:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15413; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:36:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14765; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (139.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.139]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id QAA29920; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360EA203.C4A22091@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:37:23 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Ford CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: You want Fry's with that? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: IMO, don't price shop when the difference is a few $$.. go where there is warranty and support and hand holding.. in short, you get what you pay for.. (98% of the time, that is) Mike Ford wrote: > > >I've never been to Fry's. *Yet*... > > > >Are their batteris and RAM for older ThinkPads cheap? > > Fry's ad prices are designed to gut the competition, and rarely do you see > them beat, but regular day to day prices often are mediocre. I would not > buy ram from Fry's under most circumstances due to the cheesy warranty > policies they have (ie ad special simms are 30 day warranty or 1 year, same > simm double price is lifetime etc.). -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 16:56:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA03712 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:56:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21189; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:49:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19203; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18546; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (139.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.139]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id QAA02603; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360EA4DC.9F799621@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:49:32 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Armstrong CC: ThinkPad list Subject: Re: Hard Drive Utilization References: <000201bde951$14a321a0$f2bcfea9@770> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I suggest ONE HUGE partition for those who will be using a 2nd HDD in their machine.. helps keep the drive letters from becoming scrambled... not sure if data on "D:" and Apps on "C:" is a good idea.. IMO best keep it all close by (physically) so there is less seeking going on.. William Armstrong wrote: > > Buy a copy of Partition Magic, make both drives Win32 if you can, and set > up your second drive as your data drive. Use your first drive for your > applications. This is my suggestion, I'm sure others have different > suggestions. > > -----Original Message----- > From: JES770@aol.com [mailto:JES770@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 26, 1998 7:36 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Hard Drive Utilization > > Greetings, > > I just purchased a 770 and it came with a 3GG hard drive with > 2 partitions (C=2GB & D=1GB). > > I've never had this luxury before and am looking for some > suggestions on using the extra D Drive. > > TIA... John -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 17:11:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA03822 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22354; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:06:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21944; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.advi.net (root@mail.advi.net [208.139.144.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21932; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ycxfssto (s8.advi.net [208.139.149.8]) by mail.advi.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA20236; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:24:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005501bdea55$72b00560$08958bd0@ycxfssto> From: "Ed Camin" To: , Subject: Re: Upgrading ThinkPad 701C to Windows 98 Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:28:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: I upgraded mine to win95 and later to win98. I had many frantic attemps at getting the suspend to wakeup after closing the lid for a long period of time. It worked for 30 minutes but after that the display would not wakeup. I tried everything in the bios but for some reason win98 blanks out some of the settings. I finally discovered that hitting fn+f7 (the lcd/vga switch) several times would turn the hd and display back on. Hitting fn/f7 several times was an irritant but at least it worked without having to reboot the system. I have since sold my tp701 and now have a tp600. Ed **ecamin@bigfoot.com** -----Original Message----- From: Sharon888@aol.com To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Saturday, September 26, 1998 8:52 PM Subject: Upgrading ThinkPad 701C to Windows 98 >Has anyone with a ThinkPad 701C upgraded to Windows 98? Mine is still running >Windows 3.1. I never did the upgrade to Windows 95, but would like to upgrade >to Windows 98. Is there anything I should watch our for? > >Thanks for your help. > >Sharon > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 17:11:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA03833 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:11:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22545; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:06:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22000; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:06:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21978; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (139.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.139]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id QAA01051; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360EA31A.81B7587D@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:42:02 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Wanger CC: ThinkPad Mailinglist Subject: Re: MPEG, 760XD, OS/2 References: <199809261745.TAA04788@Magrathea.stelarcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Alex.. have you tried going to Ty Shrakes Warped Thinkpad web site.. ? http://www.tpwarper.com/#InstallTP Alexander Wagner wrote: > > Hi! > > Following problem: > > Installed OS/2, Thinkpad-Features and drivers, everything's fine. If I instal > the MM-Plugins from NetScape/2 I've no problems showing MPEG-Vidos. But the > 760 has hardware decoding, and I'd like to use it of course. But if I add the > Hardware-decoders to my setup I can't show many MPEGs! I simply get a normal > Video-frame, green background inside, and after some seconds the window is > closed. No video. The same videos work without probs if I install only the > MM-Plugins. So I think OS/2 doesn't distinguish between the ones which can be > hardware decoded and the ones which have to be software decoded (although I > switchted to "hardware if available" and also tried "software only" in > MM-configuration notebook). Any hints how I can get this working? > -- > > CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 > Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken > Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > You may also reply to Alexander.Wagner@gmx.de or Alexander.Wagner@gmx.net -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 17:14:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA03869 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:14:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22911; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:11:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22607; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22489; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (139.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.139]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id QAA29076; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360EA0FD.94F985E3@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:33:01 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sharon888@aol.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Upgrading ThinkPad 701C to Windows 98 References: <9467a310.360d8c5c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Sharon.. along with all the other comments, win95B with the active desktop (if you like that sort of thing) would run a bit faster on the 701 than win98.. Sharon888@aol.com wrote: > > Has anyone with a ThinkPad 701C upgraded to Windows 98? Mine is still running > Windows 3.1. I never did the upgrade to Windows 95, but would like to upgrade > to Windows 98. Is there anything I should watch our for? > > Thanks for your help. > > Sharon -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 17:41:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA04134 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12734; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:15:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07874; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07840; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (139.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.139]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id QAA26172; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360E9D53.2DFE691C@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:17:23 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP701: Uses LBA? References: <199809252352.QAA24629@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. i don't know, but i CAN tell you that it will support the 6.4gig drive.. though it seems like a lot more HDD than the 701 would ever need.. BTW: i just got my fifth 701C.. a real keeper.. and still warranty left..! :-) Paul Khoury wrote: > > Does the 701 use LBA for hard drives? > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 18:13:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA04390 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 18:13:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16481; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:22:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10902; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10156; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (139.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.139]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id QAA27222; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360E9E9A.A81F1F30@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:22:50 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Mckenzie CC: Michael , Paul Khoury , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP701: Uses LBA? References: <360C52A8.E27AED78@theriver.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I regularly run FDISK, FORMAT and even SCANDISK on 5.1gig HDD's in a 750C.. slow, but it does the job.. not sure of the bios rev level on the 750C but i suppose it must be recent.. :-) the 8.1gig HDD won't work in anything (thus far) but the 770 series.. James Mckenzie wrote: > > There is a simple way to detect this. Look at your C: directory. If > it is <504MB, then your Thinkpad could not support LBA. If it is > >504MB then it should, barring the use of any special drivers, such as Disk Manager, et. al. > > My Thinkpad 760ED supported LBA, my 360 and 750 did not. However, a > BIOS upgrade to both "fixed" this problem. Nice thing about using > reprogrammable memory. > > James > > Michael wrote: > > > > On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > > > > > Does the 701 use LBA for hard drives? > > > > It must because I have a 2.1 gig in mine runing osr2. > > > > > > > -- > > > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > > > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > > > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > > > ICQ#14582895 > > > -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 18:22:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA04445 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 18:22:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15171; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:18:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09349; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09008; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:17:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (139.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.139]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id QAA26739; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:17:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360E9E06.68491FCD@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:20:22 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Mckenzie CC: Steve Meisner , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hibernation and FAT32 References: <000001bde878$0c2c6ec0$0b00a8c0@homer.msc.com> <360C3DB9.6ADC9DE1@theriver.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The only TP i use "docked" is the 701 i use as a printer server.. with the multiport-2.. then win95 shows an eject PC item on the start menu.. James Mckenzie wrote: > > Does the "Eject PC" option exist on your "Start" button menu when you > are docked? If not, you might want to "install" the upgraded Thinkpad > Configuration utilities. > > James > > Steve Meisner wrote: > > > > Actually, I've been running Win98 on a TP760ED for some time now and it's > > doing fine...no weirdness! > > > > Only thing is long pause sometimes during startup (after log in) only when > > docked in a SAD-III. Not standalone or in a Dock II. But then again I can't > > "Eject PC" when docked in a Dock II...I'll never get this to work exactly > > the way I want!! > > > > Steve > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] > > Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 2:20 PM > > To: Chris Schumann > > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Re: Hibernation and FAT32 > > > > Chris.. > > It is meaningless since PQMagic will convert back and forth between fat16 > > and > > fat32, BUT, even more meaningless when one considers that the recovery > > process > > by its very need will erase the entire "C:" partition anyway.. > > > > so, fat32 is OK on the "C:" drive, IMO.. > > > > your 750 should run win95B with fat32, but win98 won't load since the cpu is > > too slow.. > > win95 will tell you: "Can't run on a cpu that is 66mhz or less, OK?" > > > > so if you want to learn what molassas in winter looks like (win98) load it > > up > > on a HDD in a faster machine and hope that win98 does not further check cpu > > speed and give you another error message like: "cpu is too slow, now > > exiting, > > OK?" :-) > > > > Chris Schumann wrote: > > > > > I just saw this: > > > > > > Currently, the Recovery CD that ships with some ThinkPads do not support > > > the recovery process to a FAT32 partition. For this reason, IBM recommends > > > that the primary partition on the hard drive remain a FAT16 partition, > > > however any additional partitions may be converted to FAT32. It is also > > > recommended that the hibernation file reside on a FAT16 partition, > > > although it will work if installed on a FAT32 partition > > > > > > at this web page: > > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3XJUHW.html > > > > > > So it looks as if IBM supports hibernation files on a FAT32 partition, but > > > I assume you'd need a current BIOS for that to work. > > > > > > Has anyone tried this on an older machine (like my 750P)? > > > > > > Chris Schumann > > > > -- > > Happy Trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > > 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), > > 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), > > 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), > > 755CE(no gig, 40meg), > > 750C(no gig, 4meg), > > IBM WorkPad(1meg) -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 19:58:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA05119 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 19:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21588; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 19:58:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 19:54:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21265; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 19:54:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21253; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 19:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from theriver.com (a3.pm3-30.theriver.com [206.102.195.131]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11173; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:54:16 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <360ED010.C2CAD0D1@theriver.com> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:53:52 -0700 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" CC: Steve Meisner , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hibernation and FAT32 References: <000001bde878$0c2c6ec0$0b00a8c0@homer.msc.com> <360C3DB9.6ADC9DE1@theriver.com> <360E9E06.68491FCD@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: If a Thinkpad is mounted in a DOCK, Selet-a-dock or connected to a port replicator, then the "Eject PC" should show on the "Start" menu just above the "Shut Down" option. I get this with my 760ED when plugged into my DOCK-II. When I start it up in "stand-alone" mode, the option is not there. If I eject the Thinkpad from the Docking Station, the option remains until I reboot the system. James Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > The only TP i use "docked" is the 701 i use as a printer server.. > with the multiport-2.. > then win95 shows an eject PC item on the start menu.. > > James Mckenzie wrote: > > > > Does the "Eject PC" option exist on your "Start" button menu when you > > are docked? If not, you might want to "install" the upgraded Thinkpad > > Configuration utilities. > > > > James > > > > Steve Meisner wrote: > > > > > > Actually, I've been running Win98 on a TP760ED for some time now and it's > > > doing fine...no weirdness! > > > > > > Only thing is long pause sometimes during startup (after log in) only when > > > docked in a SAD-III. Not standalone or in a Dock II. But then again I can't > > > "Eject PC" when docked in a Dock II...I'll never get this to work exactly > > > the way I want!! > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] > > > Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 2:20 PM > > > To: Chris Schumann > > > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > > Subject: Re: Hibernation and FAT32 > > > > > > Chris.. > > > It is meaningless since PQMagic will convert back and forth between fat16 > > > and > > > fat32, BUT, even more meaningless when one considers that the recovery > > > process > > > by its very need will erase the entire "C:" partition anyway.. > > > > > > so, fat32 is OK on the "C:" drive, IMO.. > > > > > > your 750 should run win95B with fat32, but win98 won't load since the cpu is > > > too slow.. > > > win95 will tell you: "Can't run on a cpu that is 66mhz or less, OK?" > > > > > > so if you want to learn what molassas in winter looks like (win98) load it > > > up > > > on a HDD in a faster machine and hope that win98 does not further check cpu > > > speed and give you another error message like: "cpu is too slow, now > > > exiting, > > > OK?" :-) > > > > > > Chris Schumann wrote: > > > > > > > I just saw this: > > > > > > > > Currently, the Recovery CD that ships with some ThinkPads do not support > > > > the recovery process to a FAT32 partition. For this reason, IBM recommends > > > > that the primary partition on the hard drive remain a FAT16 partition, > > > > however any additional partitions may be converted to FAT32. It is also > > > > recommended that the hibernation file reside on a FAT16 partition, > > > > although it will work if installed on a FAT32 partition > > > > > > > > at this web page: > > > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3XJUHW.html > > > > > > > > So it looks as if IBM supports hibernation files on a FAT32 partition, but > > > > I assume you'd need a current BIOS for that to work. > > > > > > > > Has anyone tried this on an older machine (like my 750P)? > > > > > > > > Chris Schumann > > > > > > -- > > > Happy Trails... > > > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > > > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > > > 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), > > > 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), > > > 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), > > > 755CE(no gig, 40meg), > > > 750C(no gig, 4meg), > > > IBM WorkPad(1meg) > > -- > Happy Trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), > 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), > 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), > 755CE(no gig, 40meg), > 750C(no gig, 4meg), > IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 22:31:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA06314 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:31:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06016; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:31:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:27:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05718; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:27:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05705; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:26:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from Sharon888@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id CXWCa17824 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:26:20 +2000 (EDT) Message-ID: <6312ad31.360ef3cc@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:26:20 EDT To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Upgrading ThinkPad 701C to Windows 98 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Claris Emailer v1.0 sub 3 List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to everyone who has offered their input on upgrading my 701C to Windows 98. I have a DX4 75 so it is possible, but I only have 24 megs of RAM so it may be too slow. They have a version of System Commander that lets you upgrade to Windows 98 while maintaining your Windows 95 or 3.1. It's only $25 so maybe I'll get that. Then I can go back if want to. Thanks again guys! Sharon From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 22:35:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA06366 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06503; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:31:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06148; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06119; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:31:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (mg139-027.ricochet.net [204.179.139.27]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA25416; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 19:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00e201bdea88$33df3580$1b8bb3cc@greasygirl.detayls.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: , "Rick Floyd" Subject: Re: 770ED: Using Trackpoint auto-disable with external mouse? Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 19:31:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Just plug a PS/2 mouse in and reboot. There may be a switch in the mouse control panel somewhere. I forget. If you have booted with no mouse connected, it will not see it until you reboot. David -----Original Message----- From: Rick Floyd To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 12:45 PM Subject: 770ED: Using Trackpoint auto-disable with external mouse? >I'd like to use an external mouse (Kensington Expert Mouse) on a >Thinkpad 770ED running various Evil Empire operating systems (95, >NT). When I tried this under 95 OSR2, just plugging the mouse into >the external PS/2 port didn't work, with either the Trackpoint or >Kensington drivers. The external mouse was ignored. There's an >auto-disable mode for the Trackpoint that I was hoping would allow me >to switch automatically, but it caused sporadic behavior with both >drivers. More often that not, neither mouse worked after a resume. >About the only thing I've found that does seem to work is to totally >disable the Trackpoint when I want to use the external mouse, to >reboot, and to use the Kensington drivers. > >This is all pretty painful when I'm moving around a lot and can only >sometimes use the external mouse. Has someone gotten this to work in >a less awkward fashion? What's a little amazing to me is that this >did all work on my 765, with no intervention at all required. So much >for progress... > > rick From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 22:44:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA06492 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07062; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:44:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:41:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06871; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06858; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p10.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.79]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA25766; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 19:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809280238.TAA25766@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Date: Sun, 27 Sep 98 19:40:23 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701: Uses LBA? List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:17:23 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >Paul.. >i don't know, but i CAN tell you that it will support the 6.4gig drive.. >though it seems like a lot more HDD than the 701 would ever need.. > >BTW: i just got my fifth 701C.. a real keeper.. and still warranty >left..! :-) Lucky. I'm still waiting for my parts 350, my 750, and my 2nd 701cs. I'm now more in favor of notebooks vs. desktops, even if it means a loss of CPU speed (in favor of portability, lower power, and a smaller footprint). The only architecture where I don't have a notebook is my Mac (though I do have a Newton I connect to it). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Sep 27 23:45:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA06942 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10919; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:43:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:38:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10451; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:38:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10438; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALHOST (turgut@bbsturk.bbs.tr [155.223.17.45]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA08720; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 05:40:20 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199809280240.FAA08720@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "Rick Floyd" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 26 Sep 98 05:38:41 +0200 Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 770ED: Using Trackpoint auto-disable with external mouse? List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:36:26 -0400, Rick Floyd wrote: >I'd like to use an external mouse (Kensington Expert Mouse) on a >Thinkpad 770ED running various Evil Empire operating systems (95, >NT). When I tried this under 95 OSR2, just plugging the mouse into heh, I like the Evil Empire bit :) I recently tried plugging an HP bus mouse to my TP600, and it worked! This was my first attempt at using an external mouse, so I don't know if it would work with others. -t - --------------------- Turgut Kalfaoglu, http://bbsturk.bbs.tr http://www.egenet.com.tr http://find.egenet.com.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCUAwUBNgy2IDJjYwErN0xZAQFk1QP46NO57ZCIhcTzm3m0Igk7cvMbRUcsWxfN 3ISjI2ntiTDWQ7kQa4MmQXUElzxCWSrLzntl2TFY3w29DfISi9mU5IYid/61NyCl vHSnkB01n1YMDP/NZ19xILDVvmc3+zzZnF33XQjkXcJpJ1QHkONBZMagu1WgRznl mJ5yAeV5Ww== =Sd3/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 00:26:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA07213 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13073; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:22:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12878; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:22:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (root@tam.dorsai.org [206.127.32.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12866; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA27591 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:25:06 -0400 (EDT) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id AAA14936 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:24:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809280424.AAA14936@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: re: [560e] Sound Card Snag Fixed To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:24:58 -0400 (edt) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Thanks all. Fiddled around with this and that, IRQs and such, and got back in sound. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins Broadcasting & Cable Magazine higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 00:47:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA07318 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:47:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14073; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:43:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13834; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13802; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jlk ([207.121.52.99]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 0621800 ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:51:59 -0400 Message-ID: <001001bdea98$2156b0e0$0200000a@jlk> From: "Slip" To: "Ken D'Ambrosio" , "Slip" Cc: Subject: Re: [701]-Undoccumented features in BIOS... Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:26:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >Nope -- what you've heard about was the infamous "don't low level format >an IDE drive" thing. And, yes, it used to be true. I didn't think they'd put something like this in a newer system..Thanks for the response! I also wanted to post another 'undoccumented feature' for the 701. It's in the hardware maintaince manual(which I HIGHLY suggest all TP owners d/l) This file is great! If you have a problem, it will probably be answered in it! I think this is what technicians use at IBM-you'll see what I mean if you d/l it. Anyways, about the 701-if you go into BIOS setup(holding down F1 while booting system), click on the test icon. Then hit CONTROL-A for the advanced menu. Then hit CONTROL-K for the keyboard test. Whichever key you press is displayed on the screen. Hit ESC to end testing. I thought it was kinda cool anyways. :-) TTYL. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 00:57:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA07401 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:57:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14545; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:54:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14346; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:54:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14329; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:54:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p22.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.91]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA09750; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809280451.VAA09750@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Slip" Date: Sun, 27 Sep 98 21:53:01 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [701]-Undoccumented features in BIOS... List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:26:09 -0400, Slip wrote: >>Nope -- what you've heard about was the infamous "don't low level format >>an IDE drive" thing. And, yes, it used to be true. > >I didn't think they'd put something like this in a newer system..Thanks for >the response! I also wanted to post another 'undoccumented feature' for the >701. It's in the hardware maintaince manual(which I HIGHLY suggest all TP >owners d/l) This file is great! If you have a problem, it will probably be >answered in it! I think this is what technicians use at IBM-you'll see what >I mean if you d/l it. Anyways, about the 701-if you go into BIOS >setup(holding down F1 while booting system), click on the test icon. Then >hit CONTROL-A for the advanced menu. Then hit CONTROL-K for the keyboard >test. Whichever key you press is displayed on the screen. Hit ESC to end >testing. I thought it was kinda cool anyways. :-) Oh yeah, I've known about that for a long time. I think if you press CRTL-E you get the Error Log, too. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 01:21:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA07544 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15587; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:18:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15378; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:18:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15363; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:18:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 8625668D.001D5636 ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:20:26 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: penzance@icanect.net cc: warmstrong@waldinc.com, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <8625668D.001B2AA9.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:19:42 -0500 Subject: Re: Hard Drive Utilization Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: >I suggest ONE HUGE partition for those who will be using a 2nd HDD in >their machine.. >helps keep the drive letters from becoming scrambled... The problem with one huge partition is when you want to apply fixes or upgrades to the base OS. If something goes wrong, your "personal" stuff is intact on another logical drive. Makes backups easier to manage too. I also like the ability to boot multiple OSes and have common apps, utilities, and data, accessible from all of them. WinNN makes it a little tougher with registry entries and other junk (DLLs, subcomponents, etc) it throws willy-nilly into the base OS subdirectories. But still better than a one drive-letter "stew" of stuff (of course, IMO ;-). > >not sure if data on "D:" and Apps on "C:" is a good idea.. mini and mainframe computers split their stuff into multiple logical areas (system, application, data, user specific, test, etc); Microsoft could learn alot (e.g. component and patch managablity) by more seriously following this paradigm. >IMO best keep it all close by (physically) so there is less seeking >going on.. A good transaction-oriented prefetch (caching/buffering) management system would minimize seeking effects. If D: and C: are on seperate physical drives, application/data throughput should actually increase. Rich Chong From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 01:51:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA07796 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16446; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:47:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16260; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16248; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p22.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.91]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA15035; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809280543.WAA15035@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "penzance@icanect.net" , "Rich_Chong@mail.share.org" Cc: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" , "warmstrong@waldinc.com" Date: Sun, 27 Sep 98 22:45:14 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hard Drive Utilization List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:19:42 -0500, Rich_Chong@mail.share.org wrote: > >>I suggest ONE HUGE partition for those who will be using a 2nd HDD in >>their machine.. >>helps keep the drive letters from becoming scrambled... >The problem with one huge partition is when you want to apply fixes or >upgrades to the base OS. Why should that be a problem? The only problem I've had with this is the drive failing completely (like my 701's original 720MB drive, for which I need a replacement logic board). If something goes wrong, your "personal" stuff is >intact on another logical drive. Makes backups easier to manage too. I also >like the ability to boot multiple OSes and have common apps, utilities, and >data, accessible from all of them. WinNN makes it a little tougher with >registry entries and other junk (DLLs, subcomponents, etc) it throws >willy-nilly into the base OS subdirectories. But still better than a one >drive-letter "stew" of stuff (of course, IMO ;-). > Which is unfortunate, since you'd think it shouldn't need it. After all, wouldn't a simple config.sys or lc.* file be enough for all the configuration information, and maybe 1 INI file? >> >>not sure if data on "D:" and Apps on "C:" is a good idea.. >mini and mainframe computers split their stuff into multiple logical areas >(system, application, data, user specific, test, etc); >Microsoft could learn alot (e.g. component and patch managablity) by more >seriously following this paradigm. > Although I will admit that on a UNIX system, I prefer all the space to go to /, instead of splitting it up. >>IMO best keep it all close by (physically) so there is less seeking >>going on.. >A good transaction-oriented prefetch (caching/buffering) management system >would minimize seeking effects. If D: and C: are on seperate physical >drives, application/data throughput should actually increase. > Yeah, if you had seperate drives. This is also especially true with a swap file or swap partition (for UNIX and sometimes OS/2), because offloading swapping to another hard drive allows for more performance with the main drive. I have my swap file on my D: drive. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 02:32:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA08277 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17978; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:28:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17819; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.netwiz.net (Mail.NetWiz.Net [208.136.106.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17807; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:28:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.135.14.42] (SoCal56k134.NetWiz.Net [208.135.14.34]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA15647 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:28:34 -0700 X-Sender: mikeford@mail.netwiz.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199809271936.PAA14972@duke.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:07:23 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mike Ford Subject: Installing from W95 Companion CD? List-Unsubscribe: Our 365XD came with W95a preinstalled, a nice W95 certificate, but no CD, just the disk factory to make 30+ floppies. Today at a swapmeet I risked a buck and bought a Microsoft Windows 95 Companion CD (marked for distribution only with a new PC), that the fellow told me just requires some sort of setup files copied to the hard drive to make a full install of W95 if I need it. Anybody know how or if this really works? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 03:26:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA08620 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:26:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20997; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:21:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20672; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aruba.u.arizona.edu (aruba.U.Arizona.EDU [128.196.137.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20259; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mcquaid@localhost) by aruba.u.arizona.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA48184 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:20:25 -0700 Message-ID: <19980928002024.A42234@aruba.u.arizona.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:20:24 -0700 From: Mick McQuaid To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 770E/ED/X s-video in or out? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.5 List-Unsubscribe: I can't determine whether any of the models 770E, 770ED, or 770X have s-video connectors. I found one IBM document (on installation of the Enhanced Video Adapter---it's at http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3R7SK2.html) that showed a drawing of the video cable for the Enhanced Video Adapter. The drawing showed what *may* have been an s-video connector on the cable. I wonder if any IBM document is more explicit. -- Mick McQuaid, mmcquaid@u.arizona.edu 520-621-4074 office / voice mail From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 07:47:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA09917 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 07:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06273; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 07:47:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 07:41:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06069; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 07:41:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06057; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 07:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.ege.edu.tr (tk-os2.ege.edu.tr [155.223.1.200]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA18585 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:42:31 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199809281042.NAA18585@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:40:37 +0200 Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP600: Win98 Annoyances List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I am attempting to move to Windows 98, which suppose to have fewer bugs, or at least bugs that are DIFFERENT than 95's :) Anyway, I have a few glitches left: * Unplugging the PCMCIA ethernet card hangs 98. (no beep, just hangs, requiring restart) * I get a NATIVE AUDIO INITIALIZATION ERROR when the machine starts, 'Wavetask manager NSPMM.DLL is not available, wave services will be disabled' it says. * Slow to wake up from hibernation - you have to hit many keys (F1, esc, space bar) to get Windows to wake up after hibernation. Otherwise you stare at a blank screen with cursor.. Any ideas? :) Thanks, 0turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNg+t9TJjYwErN0xZAQGj+QP/TTyVl4vtxzNAbDzxBPuJEgAhqXYPl8hI AzY+agMnRzgXIkhNdRqHQiUX/t1HM6YjNHL/7lka+PmcIIbfQV2KDkkuw3C5uHZj q32eHs/A6mDMcBZItOt2lUE0kCTO8d/UoOSICc0fJ0X37h032oNiWH6n8fchm9/b 4snQEHvPDNc= =vDPX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 009: Horrible bug encountered. God knows what has happened. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 08:26:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA10130 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07692; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:20:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07496; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07482; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:20:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 770 (user-38ld2hj.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.138.51]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA13693 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:20:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad list" Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:18:19 -0400 Message-ID: <000201bdeada$14901940$338a56d1@770> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <360EA4DC.9F799621@icanect.net> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Bill, Maybe you are right, Bill. In theory one can more easily do a backup of their data if it is on one drive, their apps on the other, although I have found that many applications do not make this easy to do. -Bill -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] Sent: Sunday, September 27, 1998 4:50 PM To: William Armstrong Cc: ThinkPad list Subject: Re: Hard Drive Utilization I suggest ONE HUGE partition for those who will be using a 2nd HDD in their machine.. helps keep the drive letters from becoming scrambled... not sure if data on "D:" and Apps on "C:" is a good idea.. IMO best keep it all close by (physically) so there is less seeking going on.. William Armstrong wrote: > > Buy a copy of Partition Magic, make both drives Win32 if you can, and set > up your second drive as your data drive. Use your first drive for your > applications. This is my suggestion, I'm sure others have different > suggestions. > > -----Original Message----- > From: JES770@aol.com [mailto:JES770@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 26, 1998 7:36 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Hard Drive Utilization > > Greetings, > > I just purchased a 770 and it came with a 3GG hard drive with > 2 partitions (C=2GB & D=1GB). > > I've never had this luxury before and am looking for some > suggestions on using the extra D Drive. > > TIA... John -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 11:34:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA12172 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18274; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:26:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17641; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17626; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-6-140.wireless.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA06688; Mon, 28 Sep 98 11:24:49 EDT Message-Id: <360FAA63.C8E9075C@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:25:23 -0400 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: turgut kalfaoglu Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP600: Win98 Annoyances References: <199809281042.NAA18585@home.egenet.com.tr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: We've upgraded several TP600s to Win98 without these problems. Did you follow the instructions on IBM's web site? Basically, you have to deinstall CardWizard, upgrade, and then reinstall a bunch of drivers >from floppies (that you create from images you download from the web site). Win98 does seem to be *much* slower waking up from suspend (Win98 calls it standby) than Win95 or Linux. I don't know what it is doing, but pressing the TrackPoint seems to kick it to move a bit faster. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 13:58:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14117 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26928; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:53:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26551; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dewdrop2.mindspring.com (dewdrop2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26336; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hkyxztrz (user-38lc8ag.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.33.80]) by dewdrop2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA01104 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:50:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark Allison" To: Subject: thinkpad 385ED Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:49:44 -0400 Message-ID: <001a01bdeb08$6085f760$502156d1@hkyxztrz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I'm thinking of purchasing a Thinkpad 385 ED. It has a 3.1 gig hard drive, 16 mgs of ram, active matrix screen, etc. Since I'm a long-time Mac user, I don't know a lot about IBM products. Is this a good model? Has anyone used one before? Thanks for the help, Mark Allison markall@mindspring.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 14:32:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA14535 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29431; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:30:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:20:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28677; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28663; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p07.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.76]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA22288; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809281817.LAA22288@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad list" , "William Armstrong" Date: Mon, 28 Sep 98 11:18:47 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:18:19 -0400, William Armstrong wrote: >Bill, > >Maybe you are right, Bill. > >In theory one can more easily do a backup of their data if it is on one >drive, their apps on the other, although I have found that many applications >do not make this easy to do. How about this configuration - try putting all apps on C:, and boot up on D:. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 18:43:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA21806 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17792; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:42:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:40:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17458; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:40:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17430; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 120.chicago-06-07rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.150.120]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980928223715.QDLY5248@120.chicago-06-07rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:37:15 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard Drive Utilization Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:38:28 GMT Message-ID: <36110ea4.64897752@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <199809281817.LAA22288@stevie.loop.com> In-Reply-To: <199809281817.LAA22288@stevie.loop.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 28 Sep 98 11:18:47 -0800, "Paul Khoury" wrote: |>In theory one can more easily do a backup of their data if it is on one |>drive, their apps on the other, although I have found that many = applications |>do not make this easy to do. My own work-around was to have all my apps write to a directory named Data, and simply run a batch once a day that copies this directory to a safe partition I created for the purpose. This drive has nothing by my data, the .cab files and others needed to reinstall Windows 95 (which goes amazingly fast when run from the hard drive), and for those apps I downloaded from the net, the original zip files. I've found this easier than convincing some of my applications to write to a different partition. epbrown "Personally, I think all the world's problems have already been solved,=20 and people have decided they prefer the problems to the solutions." me - 6/13/96 The Comp.sys.laptops FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 18:49:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA21889 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17790; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:36:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17238; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:36:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.eclipse.net (root@mail.eclipse.net [207.207.192.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17219; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cnj1-05-228.eclipse.net (cnj1-05-228.eclipse.net [207.207.243.228]) by mail.eclipse.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA13023 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:36:24 -0400 (EDT) From: mdash@plexsys.com (Michael Scheer) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 600 trackpoint Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:39:06 GMT Organization: Plexus Systems, Inc. Reply-To: mdash@plexsys.com Message-ID: <36110e8b.97368949@mail.eclipse.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I've had my TP 600 (my first notebook) for a couple of months. I'm inclined to think the trackpoint is harder to use than some others I've seen. Specifically, it is recessed lower into the keyboard, and seems to have lower sensitivity than some others. (The first factor might aggravate the second, and yes, I've got the sensitivity adjustment cranked.) Does anybody else have similar problems? I don't have easy access to another trackpoint version 3 machine to confirm "normal" operation, and am wondering whether to send mine in for service. --Mike Scheer, mdash@plexsys.com, 908-273-1885 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 18:55:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA21950 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:55:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18714; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:52:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18547; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18529; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:52:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809282252.SAA18529@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Tue, 27 Sep 1988 15:48:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor Kress" To: "mdash@plexsys.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:53:08 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 600 trackpoint List-Unsubscribe: The 600 trackpoint is considerably less sensitive than the one on my old 750. I don't know why they changed it. On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:39:06 GMT, Michael Scheer wrote: >I've had my TP 600 (my first notebook) for a couple of months. I'm >inclined to think the trackpoint is harder to use than some others >I've seen. Specifically, it is recessed lower into the keyboard, and >seems to have lower sensitivity than some others. (The first factor >might aggravate the second, and yes, I've got the sensitivity >adjustment cranked.) Does anybody else have similar problems? I >don't have easy access to another trackpoint version 3 machine to >confirm "normal" operation, and am wondering whether to send mine in >for service. > >--Mike Scheer, mdash@plexsys.com, 908-273-1885 ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 18:59:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA22008 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19122; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:58:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:56:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18875; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:56:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (root@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.134.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18862; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gtwang@localhost (fake: stdin (HELO localhost) (ident: uid#20647@localhost)) by calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <366585-25707>; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:55:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:55:41 -0400 (EDT) Sender: Gerald Wang From: Gerald Wang X-Sender: gtwang@calum To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP350c] Greetings! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hello everyone, my name is Gerald Wang and I'm now a happy owner of a 350c with 20MB of RAM, a 523MB hard drive, and a dead battery . Currently it is running Win95 (OSR2). Oh yes, it also came with a nice Dionite carrying case (which I'm also using to carry my books to school) and a Megahertz CC10BT PCMCIA Ethernet card. Things that I like about the 350c include the looks (I love black), the trackpoint thingy, quick suspend/resume feature, quiet hard drive, the keyboard, and somewhat compact footprint (no doubt thanks to the trackpoint and small display). Things I don't like or wish could be improved include the thickness of the unit and the passive colour display. Oh and there seems to be a bit of play in the display hinges - it'll wobble back and forth about an 1" if I shake the unit. But they're still firm and keep the display from closing unintentionally. I've also been having some problems getting the Ethernet card to work under Win95 but I'll save that for another message. I look forward to being a participant of your group! Gerald From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 19:17:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA22158 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19973; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:16:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:14:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19851; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:14:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19839; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:14:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user (ppp50.net21.binghamton.edu [128.226.21.50]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA12536 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:14:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809282314.TAA12536@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-travaganza: http://free-music.com/ken Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:12:44 -0400 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TP770ED] Modem never uses dial-tone detection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone ever gotten dial-tone detection to work on the 770ED's modem? I'm using Win95 OSR/2, and the appropriate option is selected, and I even verified in the modem log file that "X4" is being sent to the modem in the AT initialization screen. Nonetheless, the modem happily dials away regardless of whether I have the phone line connected, which is really annoying. Any ideas? Ken - kenzo@free-music.com - - http://free-music.com/ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 20:51:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA23570 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23271; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:45:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:41:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23088; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23069; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ycxfssto.dhcp.ttu.edu ([129.118.194.87]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980929004035.QMK3105@ycxfssto.dhcp.ttu.edu>; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:40:35 +0000 Message-ID: <004301bdeb42$36da7fa0$57c27681@ycxfssto.dhcp.ttu.edu> From: "Stanley Chen" To: , "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: TP 600 trackpoint Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:43:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Hi Michael, I also have a TP600. It is the third ThinkPad that I've owned (after TP500 & TP701s). I do agree that it seems that the Trackpoint is somewhat lower that the others that I've used, but I haven't had any problem with it. In my experience the trackpoints have a somewhat steeper learning curve, but one you learn to use it, you'll never want to use anything else again, especially due to the fact the you can learn to do virtually anything one handed. Stanley Chen -----Original Message----- From: Michael Scheer To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, September 28, 1998 5:43 PM Subject: TP 600 trackpoint I've had my TP 600 (my first notebook) for a couple of months. I'm inclined to think the trackpoint is harder to use than some others I've seen. Specifically, it is recessed lower into the keyboard, and seems to have lower sensitivity than some others. (The first factor might aggravate the second, and yes, I've got the sensitivity adjustment cranked.) Does anybody else have similar problems? I don't have easy access to another trackpoint version 3 machine to confirm "normal" operation, and am wondering whether to send mine in for service. --Mike Scheer, mdash@plexsys.com, 908-273-1885 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 21:00:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA23683 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:00:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23926; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:58:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23773; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:58:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23755; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:58:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 102.chicago-06-07rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.150.102]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980929005735.UYE23017@102.chicago-06-07rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:57:35 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 600 trackpoint Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:58:49 GMT Message-ID: <36142ff5.2043509@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <004301bdeb42$36da7fa0$57c27681@ycxfssto.dhcp.ttu.edu> In-Reply-To: <004301bdeb42$36da7fa0$57c27681@ycxfssto.dhcp.ttu.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:43:44 -0500, "Stanley Chen" wrote: |I do agree that it seems that the Trackpoint is somewhat lower |that the others that I've used, but I haven't had any problem with it. Could this be a response to the problem of some Trackpoints damaging the displays of Thinkpads when the lids are closed? IBM may have shortened the 'point so as to prevent contact. With the new larger displays, the lid has more flex than the days of 8"and 10"displays, and carrying your laptop like a notebook can create enough pressure to push the display too hard against the mouse keys and Trackpoint, even using a normal grip. It's a definite concern I've had with my 560, and it definitely has wear marks where the mouse keys are on the LCD (though too faint to really worry about). epbrown "Personally, I think all the world's problems have already been solved,=20 and people have decided they prefer the problems to the solutions." me - 6/13/96 The Comp.sys.laptops FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 21:24:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA23955 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:24:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25174; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:22:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25056; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:22:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25044; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-223-221.usc.edu [128.125.223.221]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id SAA08032; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:20:33 -0700 To: mdash@plexsys.com, TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: TP 600 trackpoint In-Reply-To: <36110e8b.97368949@mail.eclipse.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:39 PM 9/28/98 +0000, you wrote: >I've had my TP 600 (my first notebook) for a couple of months. I'm >inclined to think the trackpoint is harder to use than some others >I've seen. Specifically, it is recessed lower into the keyboard, and >seems to have lower sensitivity than some others. (The first factor >might aggravate the second, and yes, I've got the sensitivity >adjustment cranked.) Does anybody else have similar problems? I >don't have easy access to another trackpoint version 3 machine to >confirm "normal" operation, and am wondering whether to send mine in >for service. Your call, but per my experience with this and 3 previous ThinkPads, the 600's trackpoint is a little "stiff". I too have the sensitivity cranked. I think what the problem boils down to is the higher resolution of the screen. 1024x768 is a lot more real estate than 640x480, and certainly a good jump on even the 800x600 I had with my 560. That means more pixels to travel across for your trackpoint pointer. I'm inclined to believe they've reached a practical limit on the trackpoint's usefulness for laptops with high-resolution screens. If you make it more sensitive (maybe--don't know for certain), it will be too hard to control. If you leave it as is, that's an awful lot of real estate for the point to cross, meaning either a longer wait or more pressure on the stick. Its a catch-22. Still, I think they should go ahead and make it that much more sensitive, and just allow us to tune it down in software. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Sep 28 22:06:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA24431 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27132; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:03:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26992; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26980; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA06786; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:03:16 -1000 Message-ID: <003301bdeb4d$553cd0a0$99197e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: , "TP List" , "Randal Whittle" Subject: Re: TP 600 trackpoint Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:03:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: > Your call, but per my experience with this and 3 previous ThinkPads, the >600's trackpoint is a little "stiff". I too have the sensitivity cranked. FWIW, one can adjust the mouse sensitivity (under W95) in the registry far beyond what is possible at the control panel or using Tweakui. I did this to my wife's TI6030, which also seemed too insensitive until I hacked. I don't remember where these settings were anymore, but I first read about them somewhere on zdnet, on a tips or registry page there. The down side was that the pointer lost a corresponding amount of accuracy, but for most apps this wasn't a concern. Sorry I can't be more informative. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 02:01:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA27194 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:01:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04744; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:57:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04392; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:57:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpserv1.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (SMTPSERV1.SLAC.Stanford.EDU [134.79.16.136]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04378; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slac.stanford.edu ("port 1224"@[134.79.149.156]) by smtpserv1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #29743) with ESMTP id <0F01005EN77AWK@smtpserv1.slac.stanford.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:57:10 -0700 From: Bob Cowles Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Modem never uses dial-tone detection To: Ken Cc: Thinkpad Message-id: <361076B6.4BED4DBA@slac.stanford.edu> Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center X-Envelope-to: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <199809282314.TAA12536@mail.binghamton.edu> List-Unsubscribe: I just about went nuts with this one one a recent trip to Belgium -- I was trying to turn dial tone detection off. After a long time I realized different icons for dialup have different properties. Once I changed the modem properties associated with the icon I was actually using to launch Dialup Networking rather than changing the modem properties in the Control Panel, it all worked. Bob Cowles Ken wrote: > Has anyone ever gotten dial-tone detection to work on the 770ED's modem? > I'm using Win95 OSR/2, and the appropriate option is selected, and I even > verified in the modem log file that "X4" is being sent to the modem in the > AT initialization screen. > > Nonetheless, the modem happily dials away regardless of whether I have the > phone line connected, which is really annoying. > > Any ideas? > > Ken > - kenzo@free-music.com > - - http://free-music.com/ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 02:29:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA27368 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:29:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05509; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:28:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05428; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:28:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05416; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (243.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.243]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA13417; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:27:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36107E91.1D95301E@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:30:41 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Armstrong CC: ThinkPad list Subject: Re: Hard Drive Utilization References: <000201bdeada$14901940$338a56d1@770> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill.. try keeping all data in one common directory.. i keep my important stuff in a very few directories: backup download and anything with the .all extension.. so its easy to do a backup of data and important stuff.. also, some of the power quest utilities make a complete system backup possible.. in a compressed form.. William Armstrong wrote: > > Bill, > > Maybe you are right, Bill. > > In theory one can more easily do a backup of their data if it is on one > drive, their apps on the other, although I have found that many applications > do not make this easy to do. > > -Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] > Sent: Sunday, September 27, 1998 4:50 PM > To: William Armstrong > Cc: ThinkPad list > Subject: Re: Hard Drive Utilization > > I suggest ONE HUGE partition for those who will be using a 2nd HDD in > their machine.. > helps keep the drive letters from becoming scrambled... > > not sure if data on "D:" and Apps on "C:" is a good idea.. > IMO best keep it all close by (physically) so there is less seeking > going on.. > > William Armstrong wrote: > > > > Buy a copy of Partition Magic, make both drives Win32 if you can, and set > > up your second drive as your data drive. Use your first drive for your > > applications. This is my suggestion, I'm sure others have different > > suggestions. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: JES770@aol.com [mailto:JES770@aol.com] > > Sent: Saturday, September 26, 1998 7:36 AM > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Hard Drive Utilization > > > > Greetings, > > > > I just purchased a 770 and it came with a 3GG hard drive with > > 2 partitions (C=2GB & D=1GB). > > > > I've never had this luxury before and am looking for some > > suggestions on using the extra D Drive. > > > > TIA... John > > -- > Happy Trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), > 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), > 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), > 755CE(no gig, 40meg), > 750C(no gig, 4meg), > IBM WorkPad(1meg) -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 02:37:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA27425 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05920; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:35:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05769; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05757; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (243.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.243]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA28287; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3610803A.8013E0D1@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:37:46 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP701: Uses LBA? References: <199809280238.TAA25766@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. RANDOM THOUGHTS: the term "Distributed Processing" comes to mind.. then there is a group which tries to break the encryption algorithm by using hundreds of different machines onver the internet.. i forget the details.. but think of the future.. :-) with all these thinkpads, my mind keeps going to the idea of a LAN with individual machines doing different jobs.. all laced together by a LAN and feeding data to each other.. kill one machine and the others take over.. when I lived in Palo Alto i kept my horses on arastradero road, between page mill and portola road.. across from the barn (before it burned down in a brush fire) was the Stanford AI Lab building.. Paul Khoury wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:17:23 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > >Paul.. > >i don't know, but i CAN tell you that it will support the 6.4gig drive.. > >though it seems like a lot more HDD than the 701 would ever need.. > > > >BTW: i just got my fifth 701C.. a real keeper.. and still warranty > >left..! :-) > > Lucky. > > I'm still waiting for my parts 350, my 750, and my 2nd 701cs. > > I'm now more in favor of notebooks vs. desktops, even if it means a loss of > CPU speed (in favor of portability, lower power, and a smaller footprint). > > The only architecture where I don't have a notebook is my Mac (though I do have > a Newton I connect to it). > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 02:42:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA27454 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06237; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:40:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06099; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06087; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:40:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user (bing44.net107.binghamton.edu [128.226.107.44]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA02134; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809290639.CAA02134@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-travaganza: http://free-music.com/ken Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:39:28 -0400 To: Bob Cowles From: Ken Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Modem never uses dial-tone detection Cc: Thinkpad In-Reply-To: <361076B6.4BED4DBA@slac.stanford.edu> References: <199809282314.TAA12536@mail.binghamton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:57 PM 9/28/98 -0700, Bob Cowles wrote: >I just about went nuts with this one one a recent trip to Belgium -- I was >trying to turn dial tone detection off. After a long time I realized >different icons for dialup have different properties. Once I changed the >modem properties associated with the icon I was actually using to launch >Dialup Networking rather than changing the modem properties in the Control >Panel, it all worked. Thanks for the suggestion, but, as I said, not only have I set Windows 95 (OSR/2, TP770ED) correctly in every obvious place, but I've even confirmed that the computer is sending "ATX4" to the modem, which is supposed to be the code for enabling dial-tone detection. Do I have a defective modem? Ken - kenzo@free-music.com - - http://free-music.com/ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 02:50:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA27510 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06944; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:48:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06719; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06706; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:47:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (243.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.243]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA18695; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36108317.4506B7F5@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:49:59 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Slip CC: "Ken D'Ambrosio" , Slip , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [701]-Undoccumented features in BIOS... References: <001001bdea98$2156b0e0$0200000a@jlk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Jamie.. that ctrl-A, ctrl-K thing is common on all TP's.. why don't you post the link to the 701 Hardware Maint. Manual for the good people hereabouts.. ? :-) Slip wrote: > > >Nope -- what you've heard about was the infamous "don't low level format > >an IDE drive" thing. And, yes, it used to be true. > > I didn't think they'd put something like this in a newer system..Thanks for > the response! I also wanted to post another 'undoccumented feature' for the > 701. It's in the hardware maintaince manual(which I HIGHLY suggest all TP > owners d/l) This file is great! If you have a problem, it will probably be > answered in it! I think this is what technicians use at IBM-you'll see what > I mean if you d/l it. Anyways, about the 701-if you go into BIOS > setup(holding down F1 while booting system), click on the test icon. Then > hit CONTROL-A for the advanced menu. Then hit CONTROL-K for the keyboard > test. Whichever key you press is displayed on the screen. Hit ESC to end > testing. I thought it was kinda cool anyways. :-) > TTYL. > -Jamie -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 02:58:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA27566 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:58:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07495; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:55:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07316; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07304; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (243.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.243]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA09916; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361084F6.20622691@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:57:58 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich_Chong@mail.share.org CC: warmstrong@waldinc.com, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard Drive Utilization References: <8625668D.001B2AA9.00@passnotes.share.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Rich.. GREAT and thoughtful response.. Rich_Chong@mail.share.org wrote: > > >I suggest ONE HUGE partition for those who will be using a 2nd HDD in > >their machine.. > >helps keep the drive letters from becoming scrambled... > The problem with one huge partition is when you want to apply fixes or > upgrades to the base OS. If something goes wrong, your "personal" stuff is > intact on another logical drive. Makes backups easier to manage too. I also > like the ability to boot multiple OSes and have common apps, utilities, and > data, accessible from all of them. WinNN makes it a little tougher with > registry entries and other junk (DLLs, subcomponents, etc) it throws > willy-nilly into the base OS subdirectories. But still better than a one > drive-letter "stew" of stuff (of course, IMO ;-). > agreed.. for those who want mulit-OS's... many do not, they just want stuff where they expect it to be.. :-) > > > >not sure if data on "D:" and Apps on "C:" is a good idea.. > mini and mainframe computers split their stuff into multiple logical areas > (system, application, data, user specific, test, etc); > Microsoft could learn alot (e.g. component and patch managablity) by more > seriously following this paradigm. agree again.. its all the Evil Empire being arrogant.. IMO > > >IMO best keep it all close by (physically) so there is less seeking > >going on.. > A good transaction-oriented prefetch (caching/buffering) management system > would minimize seeking effects. If D: and C: are on seperate physical > drives, application/data throughput should actually increase. it would be nice if MS (EE) would have a better system and more flexible, but they do not, so we do what is easiest to accomplish the task at hand.. its a kluge whichever choice one makes.. at least until the OS matures into something really nice.. this is one reason i am suspicious and generally do not like the MS Evil Empire.. they come off as being arrogant.. unresponsive to the power users i think.. uhh.. and.. i am at a loss for words here.. :-) so i'll quit for now.. > > Rich Chong -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 03:04:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA27614 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08106; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:01:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07822; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:01:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07810; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:01:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (243.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.243]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA11398; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:01:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3610867B.80C47A73@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:04:27 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mick McQuaid CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770E/ED/X s-video in or out? References: <19980928002024.A42234@aruba.u.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Mick.. the S-Video connector is on the little cable with the dongle.. it has one RCA jack and an S-Video connector.. which i do not think are wired to common pins (other than the ground pin) i opened one up and there are 2 wire and a ground to the S-Video and 1 wire and a ground to the RCA jack... Mick McQuaid wrote: > > I can't determine whether any of the models 770E, 770ED, or > 770X have s-video connectors. I found one IBM document (on > installation of the Enhanced Video Adapter---it's at > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3R7SK2.html) > that showed a drawing of the video cable for the Enhanced > Video Adapter. The drawing showed what *may* have been an > s-video connector on the cable. I wonder if any IBM document > is more explicit. > > -- > Mick McQuaid, mmcquaid@u.arizona.edu > 520-621-4074 office / voice mail -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 03:12:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA27656 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:12:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09076; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:09:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08657; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08633; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:08:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (243.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.243]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA13102; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3610882B.5F83401F@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:11:39 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerald Wang CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP350c] Greetings! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Gerald.. the 350 IS an old machine.. the loose top is a common problem.. you might check the screws accessible from the rear of the machine.. if tightening these does not help the loose top cover problem,then the hinge attachment points inside the top may have come loose and will need some epoxy glue.. not reccommended for those unfamilier with the inside of a TP.. aside from being old (not so bad, I'm old) and loose.. (i'm THAT too on occasion) it is a good old workhorse.. the Dual Scan display is, well.. hmm.. your next thinkpad will have a TFT display.. :-) Gerald Wang wrote: > > Hello everyone, my name is Gerald Wang and I'm now a happy owner of a 350c > with 20MB of RAM, a 523MB hard drive, and a dead battery . Currently it > is running Win95 (OSR2). Oh yes, it also came with a nice Dionite carrying > case (which I'm also using to carry my books to school) and a Megahertz > CC10BT PCMCIA Ethernet card. > > Things that I like about the 350c include the looks (I love black), the > trackpoint thingy, quick suspend/resume feature, quiet hard drive, the > keyboard, and somewhat compact footprint (no doubt thanks to the > trackpoint and small display). > > Things I don't like or wish could be improved include the thickness of the > unit and the passive colour display. Oh and there seems to be a bit of > play in the display hinges - it'll wobble back and forth about an 1" if I > shake the unit. But they're still firm and keep the display from closing > unintentionally. > > I've also been having some problems getting the Ethernet card to work > under Win95 but I'll save that for another message. I look forward to > being a participant of your group! > > Gerald -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 03:13:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA27666 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:13:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09327; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:10:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08882; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08856; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:10:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (243.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.243]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA13338; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3610887D.50035EE2@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:13:01 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Modem never uses dial-tone detection References: <199809282314.TAA12536@mail.binghamton.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ken.. the DT detect works on the 760ED.. i suggest you consider reloading the mwave modem drivers.. Ken wrote: > > Has anyone ever gotten dial-tone detection to work on the 770ED's modem? > I'm using Win95 OSR/2, and the appropriate option is selected, and I even > verified in the modem log file that "X4" is being sent to the modem in the > AT initialization screen. > > Nonetheless, the modem happily dials away regardless of whether I have the > phone line connected, which is really annoying. > > Any ideas? > > Ken > - kenzo@free-music.com > - - http://free-music.com/ken -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 03:18:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA27709 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:18:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10309; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:15:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09888; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:15:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09871; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:15:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (243.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.243]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA14398; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:15:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361089AF.346076E9@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:18:07 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randal Whittle CC: mdash@plexsys.com, TP List Subject: Re: TP 600 trackpoint References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Randy.. i don't tend to agree re. thee real estate and trackpoint sensitivity.. i have no OTHER ideas, but i use a trackpoint II keyboard with an IBM SXGA display.. the only problem i DO have is the merest wobble as i depress a mouse button and i get an error message regarding "you can't copy a directory to itself, OK?" (when trying to double click into a directory).. or several similar errors generated by very slightly moving the mouse as i double click.. Randal Whittle wrote: > > At 10:39 PM 9/28/98 +0000, you wrote: > >I've had my TP 600 (my first notebook) for a couple of months. I'm > >inclined to think the trackpoint is harder to use than some others > >I've seen. Specifically, it is recessed lower into the keyboard, and > >seems to have lower sensitivity than some others. (The first factor > >might aggravate the second, and yes, I've got the sensitivity > >adjustment cranked.) Does anybody else have similar problems? I > >don't have easy access to another trackpoint version 3 machine to > >confirm "normal" operation, and am wondering whether to send mine in > >for service. > > Your call, but per my experience with this and 3 previous ThinkPads, the > 600's trackpoint is a little "stiff". I too have the sensitivity cranked. > > I think what the problem boils down to is the higher resolution of the > screen. 1024x768 is a lot more real estate than 640x480, and certainly a > good jump on even the 800x600 I had with my 560. That means more pixels to > travel across for your trackpoint pointer. > > I'm inclined to believe they've reached a practical limit on the > trackpoint's usefulness for laptops with high-resolution screens. If you > make it more sensitive (maybe--don't know for certain), it will be too hard > to control. If you leave it as is, that's an awful lot of real estate for > the point to cross, meaning either a longer wait or more pressure on the > stick. Its a catch-22. > > Still, I think they should go ahead and make it that much more sensitive, > and just allow us to tune it down in software. > > ------- > Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net > > *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! > - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 03:31:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA27774 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11034; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:27:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10779; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:27:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10766; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (243.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.243]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA16457; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:26:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36108C63.8B8E4C32@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:29:39 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Love and Jones Webmaster CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP 755ALL] Re: www.thinkpads.com References: <199809260102.VAA29836@rodney> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Duke.. i have HDD's (and 755 type drive shells) and memory.. those 4x CD's will, or should, work, but not fit well, in a 755CD.. if you want more, give me something to post.. i'll put up a 755 section, no problem.. but you know.. the deals come when the come.. AND, its a bit risky to buy $4k worth of 755 stuff and find i have to burn it to keep warm this winter.. :-) Love and Jones Webmaster wrote: > > > On Friday, September 25, 1998 2:45 PM, peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP > > wrote: %While IBM will sell the 4X's for $99 it's much cheaper to buy them > > from Mr %Thinkpad. (grin) %http://www.thinkpads.com/start.htm % > > But, hey...Mr. Thinkpad is a little stingy when it comes to us 755 > owners...got any goodies for us (tp755CD-9BE)? Hardly see > anything on your site? > > Duke -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 03:34:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA27795 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11192; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:28:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10902; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:28:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10878; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (243.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.243]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA16744; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36108CC1.6B1FE89A@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:31:13 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TPALL: Cheap sources of memory? References: <199809250806.BAA27381@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. i DO have a bad keyboard that has the trackpoint..! call me sometime and we'll discuss it.. :-) Paul Khoury wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:56:45 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: > > >Paul.. > >if the dead mouse is due to the trackpoint, then it can be replaced.. along with the keyboard.. > >$50 ~ > >but first, check the ribbon cable under the keyboard where it plugs into the system board.. it > >might be loose or disconnected.. > > > Let's just say that the mouse is not attached to the keyboard. It LITERALLY broke > off. :( > > And there's other problems with my current 701 anyways. Plus, 2 machines are faster combined > than one machine. :) > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 03:39:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA27824 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:39:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11682; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:35:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11416; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11365; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:34:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (243.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.243]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA17835; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36108DF9.15815A14@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:36:25 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken CC: Bruce Markowitz , Thinkpad Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Win95 screen resets to 640x480 after some crashes References: <19980925021656.WQAW7481@ibm> <199809250526.BAA28670@mail.binghamton.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ken.. not likely, but possible.. i suppose that, by now, you have tried this.. any change..?? Ken wrote: > > >Bruce Markowitz wrote: > >> The 760ED had a VERY similar problem! It was traced to a faulty DIMM > >> carrier - I had mone replaced under warranty. This is probably some sort of > >> memory issue - contact EZ Serve and INSIST on an answer. > At 01:12 PM 9/25/98 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: > >his memory configueration is not mentioned.. the 760ED bug was due to TWO > >DIMM's installed.. it was cureable by removing ONE of the DIMM's... > >Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > >> > From: Ken > >> > to happen. I get a blue screen, with an exception in "PIC(1) VXD" or > >> > is that my screen resolution resets from 1024x768 to 640x480, causing all > > My 770ED has the 32MB that comes in one slot, plus 64MB that I put in the > second slot. Are you suggesting that if I remove one of them (I'll pick > the 32MB), this might cause the error to stop popping up? > > Ken > - kenzo@free-music.com > - - http://free-music.com/ken -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 04:16:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA28188 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 04:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06621; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:45:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06463; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:45:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06451; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:45:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (243.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.243]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA04365; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36108293.CF87AECF@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:47:47 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: turgut kalfaoglu CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP600: Win98 Annoyances References: <199809281042.NAA18585@home.egenet.com.tr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Turgut.. Have you: 1. updated your machines bios..? 2. obtained the IBM win98 upgrade CD ($10 from IBM) which has all the most recent win98 specific updated drivers, et al. turgut kalfaoglu wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > I am attempting to move to Windows 98, which suppose to have fewer bugs, or at least bugs > that are DIFFERENT than 95's :) > > Anyway, I have a few glitches left: > * Unplugging the PCMCIA ethernet card hangs 98. (no beep, just hangs, requiring restart) IMO, again, might be a driver.. > * I get a NATIVE AUDIO INITIALIZATION ERROR when the machine starts, 'Wavetask > manager NSPMM.DLL is not available, wave services will be disabled' it says. > * Slow to wake up from hibernation - you have to hit many keys (F1, esc, space bar) to get > Windows to wake up after hibernation. Otherwise you stare at a blank screen with cursor.. > > Any ideas? :) > > Thanks, 0turgut > > - -- > turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. > Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr > http://bbsturk.bbs.tr > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBNg+t9TJjYwErN0xZAQGj+QP/TTyVl4vtxzNAbDzxBPuJEgAhqXYPl8hI > AzY+agMnRzgXIkhNdRqHQiUX/t1HM6YjNHL/7lka+PmcIIbfQV2KDkkuw3C5uHZj > q32eHs/A6mDMcBZItOt2lUE0kCTO8d/UoOSICc0fJ0X37h032oNiWH6n8fchm9/b > 4snQEHvPDNc= > =vDPX > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Windows Error 009: Horrible bug encountered. God knows what has happened. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 05:19:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA28575 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 05:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16944; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 05:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 05:15:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA14792; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 05:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA14720; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 05:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.ege.edu.tr (tk-os2.ege.edu.tr [155.223.1.200]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07491 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:16:18 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199809290816.LAA07491@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:14:36 +0200 Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hard Drive Utilization List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have lots of applications for the "more stable OS", OS/2, (OK, I admit, I like using it too!), so I used Partition Magic to shrink the C: partition of my TP600, and created a new drive to install OS/2. Neither OS "sees" the other one's C: drive, and I have a boot manager that asks me which one I would like to boot. If I want to play games, I choose 95, if I am going to do work, I choose OS/2. Works very well.. - -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNhDdPDJjYwErN0xZAQFgYQP9FN2ymJJ2TxP2uIQiWoc+uLTIQL2/muj9 PhHulnYpinKYtUqyzPQ6rKXxE6phWB446DLnrDPyIz04uHCP83ozYjqch5hUdCl8 HzqEAC0xEJXwhbhYp4VfVpMQoBukHOTwPcqGfCEIMfpJ8VpthPsc/bNz79oVAR1V CLTboIgCqqs= =tN2z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 034: Keyboard Error; User Must Learn to Slow Down From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 06:32:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA29038 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:32:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23310; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:29:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23202; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23188; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:28:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jlk ([205.130.18.41]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 2637200 ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:37:37 -0400 Message-ID: <002001bdeb91$902d11e0$291282cd@jlk> From: "Slip" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Cc: "Ken D'Ambrosio" , "Slip" , Subject: Re: [701]-Undoccumented features in BIOS... Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:11:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >that ctrl-A, ctrl-K thing is common on all TP's.. > >why don't you post the link to the 701 Hardware Maint. Manual for the >good people hereabouts.. ? :-) Sure, no prob. The page is at http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/cdt/hmm.html#mobile Look out though, you'll need Adobe Acrobat reader. These manuals tell you step by-step how to dissemble your thinkpad, and every support avenu you could take. Enjoy. :-) -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 06:36:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA29066 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:36:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23913; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:33:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23558; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from witch.xtra.co.nz (witch.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23534; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amlaptop (p34-m17-ch7.dialup.xtra.co.nz [203.96.106.226]) by witch.xtra.co.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA03547 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:32:19 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <016301bdeb94$4f367ca0$346a60cb@amlaptop> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Modem never uses dial-tone detection Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:31:22 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Maybe it's your country setting that is doing this. I know that when I set my 770's modem to New Zealand it is disabling the dial tone detection. This would probably ignore the ATx4 command. Goto Thinkpad Modem -> Modem Country Restrictions to see what it is doing internally. If this is your problem change your country to USA or some other. Later, Andreas!! :-) >At 10:57 PM 9/28/98 -0700, Bob Cowles wrote: >>I just about went nuts with this one one a recent trip to Belgium -- I was >>trying to turn dial tone detection off. After a long time I realized >>different icons for dialup have different properties. Once I changed the >>modem properties associated with the icon I was actually using to launch >>Dialup Networking rather than changing the modem properties in the Control >>Panel, it all worked. > >Thanks for the suggestion, but, as I said, not only have I set Windows 95 >(OSR/2, TP770ED) correctly in every obvious place, but I've even confirmed >that the computer is sending "ATX4" to the modem, which is supposed to be >the code for enabling dial-tone detection. > >Do I have a defective modem? > >Ken >- kenzo@free-music.com >- - http://free-music.com/ken > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 06:36:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA29072 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:36:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23954; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:36:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:33:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23575; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from repulse (repulse.concentric.net [207.155.248.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23543; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.cya (nic.cya.ca.gov [134.186.167.197]) by repulse (8.9.1/) id GAA20976; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:32:59 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay] Message-ID: <003901bdeb94$7cc340e0$3408020a@localhost.cya> From: "Love and Jones Webmaster" To: Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: [TP 755ALL] Re: www.thinkpads.com Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:32:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com To: Love and Jones Webmaster Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [TP 755ALL] Re: www.thinkpads.com >Duke.. >i have HDD's (and 755 type drive shells) and memory.. >those 4x CD's will, or should, work, but not fit well, in a 755CD.. When you say, "not fit well", how horrendous will it look? Not fully closing? Could snap off? What? >but you know.. the deals come when the come.. Ain't that the truth! >AND, its a bit risky to buy $4k worth of 755 stuff and find i have to >burn it to keep warm this winter.. :-) Are you trying to say that my TP is, er...not the in-demand machine I thought? :-) >Love and Jones Webmaster wrote: >> >> > On Friday, September 25, 1998 2:45 PM, peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP >> > wrote: %While IBM will sell the 4X's for $99 it's much cheaper to buy them >> > from Mr %Thinkpad. (grin) %http://www.thinkpads.com/start.htm % >> >> But, hey...Mr. Thinkpad is a little stingy when it comes to us 755 >> owners...got any goodies for us (tp755CD-9BE)? Hardly see >> anything on your site? >> >> Duke > >-- >Happy Trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html >bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net >770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), >760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), >701C(6.3gig, 40meg), >755CE(no gig, 40meg), >750C(no gig, 4meg), >IBM WorkPad(1meg) > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 06:38:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA29084 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:38:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24254; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:35:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23933; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from repulse (repulse.concentric.net [207.155.248.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23804; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.cya (nic.cya.ca.gov [134.186.167.197]) by repulse (8.9.1/) id GAA21076; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:35:15 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay] Message-ID: <004201bdeb94$cddad600$3408020a@localhost.cya> From: "Love and Jones Webmaster" To: "ThinkPad List" , Subject: Re: [TP 755ALL] Re: www.thinkpads.com Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:34:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com To: Love and Jones Webmaster Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [TP 755ALL] Re: www.thinkpads.com >Duke.. >i have HDD's (and 755 type drive shells) and memory.. >those 4x CD's will, or should, work, but not fit well, in a 755CD.. When you say, "not fit well", how horrendous will it look? Not fully closing? Could snap off? What? >but you know.. the deals come when the come.. Ain't that the truth! >AND, its a bit risky to buy $4k worth of 755 stuff and find i have to >burn it to keep warm this winter.. :-) Are you trying to say that my TP is, er...not the in-demand machine I thought? :-) >Love and Jones Webmaster wrote: >> >> > On Friday, September 25, 1998 2:45 PM, peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP >> > wrote: %While IBM will sell the 4X's for $99 it's much cheaper to buy them >> > from Mr %Thinkpad. (grin) %http://www.thinkpads.com/start.htm % >> >> But, hey...Mr. Thinkpad is a little stingy when it comes to us 755 >> owners...got any goodies for us (tp755CD-9BE)? Hardly see >> anything on your site? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 07:00:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA29206 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA24966; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:58:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24793; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:58:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24780; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:58:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id MSXGa08737; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <17befe3d.3610bc7b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:54:51 EDT To: rwhittle@usa.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: TP 600 trackpoint Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 9/28/98 9:27:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rwhittle@usa.net writes: > I think what the problem boils down to is the higher resolution of the > screen. 1024x768 is a lot more real estate than 640x480, and certainly a > good jump on even the 800x600 I had with my 560. That means more pixels to > travel across for your trackpoint pointer. If this were true, I should have a similar problem with trackpoint sensitivity on my 770 using 1024x768. I don't. In fact, it seem easier to use than my 560e. FWIW, John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 08:27:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA29759 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27330; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:27:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:24:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27172; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.us.fortis.com (ns.us.fortis.com [167.79.91.99]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27159; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.us.fortis.com (root@localhost) by ns.us.fortis.com with ESMTP id HAA07454 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:26:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mime.us.fortis.com (mime.us.fortis.com [167.79.12.2]) by ns.us.fortis.com with ESMTP id HAA07445 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:26:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from US.FORTIS.COM (unverified [167.79.36.4]) by mime.us.fortis.com (Integralis SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:22:07 -0600 Received: from WOODBYGATE-Message_Server by US.FORTIS.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:18:17 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:20:30 -0600 From: Mike Hunziker To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard Drive Utilization -Reply & linux ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: >>> "Paul Khoury" 09/28/98 12:45am >>> >Why should that be a problem? The only problem I've had with this is the >drive failing >completely (like my 701's original 720MB drive, for which I need a >replacement logic >board). Some of us like to install new OS's and upgrades and like to have a separate operating system hard-drive. I make that a absolute hard fast rule on my HPUX systems.....NO DATA on the root drive. > >Although I will admit that on a UNIX system, I prefer all the space to go to >/, instead of splitting it up. Terrible idea, why risk your root drive filling up because of a runaway log or such? /var should always be a separate mount point. So should /home directories if you have more than just yourself using the machine, which probably isn't the case here. BTW: Has anyone got Linux working with Token-ring on a thinkpad. I'm thinking of putting RedHat 5.1 on a scsi drive in my docking station and connecting to the network via an ISA token-ring card in the dock. RedHat 2.1 /w TR patch didn't work well at all. I'm hoping 5.1 will handle Token-ring better. **************************************************************** Please Note The information in this E-mail message is legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you, the reader of this message, are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you should not further disseminate, distribute, or forward this E-mail message. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender. Thank you ***************************************************************** From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 10:48:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA01415 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:48:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05187; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:48:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:44:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04972; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tor-smtp2.netcom.ca (tor-smtp2.netcom.ca [207.181.101.101]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04957; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thinkpad-765d (mon-pq7-33.netcom.ca [207.181.93.97]) by tor-smtp2.netcom.ca (8.8.7-s-4/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA01190 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:44:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Neil Di Meglio" To: Subject: How solid are ThinkPad 560's casing ? Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:38:03 -0400 Message-ID: <000401bdebb6$c43932a0$615db5cf@thinkpad-765d> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Hi All, Over the week-end the LCD back panel casing of my ThinkPad 560X received a hit, the casing has no cracks and the LCD display shows no sign of damages, is there something I should be worried of ! Thanks Neil. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 12:41:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA02800 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11292; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:37:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11103; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ankle.uplanet.com (host-189-2.uplanet.com [208.232.189.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11091; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ankle.uplanet.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 09:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980929093915.J28698@ankle.uplanet.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 09:39:15 -0700 From: Jesse Montrose To: Neil Di Meglio , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How solid are ThinkPad 560's casing ? Reply-To: jesse@spine.com Mail-Followup-To: Neil Di Meglio , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu References: <000401bdebb6$c43932a0$615db5cf@thinkpad-765d> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <000401bdebb6$c43932a0$615db5cf@thinkpad-765d>; from Neil Di Meglio on Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 10:38:03AM -0400 List-Unsubscribe: Only took one fall, myself, from about three feet, spinning and hitting carpet (I'd caught the power cord). The mouse buttons popped loose, so I had to take it apart to jostle them back into place, but other than that I had no problems. On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 10:38:03AM -0400, Neil Di Meglio wrote: > Hi All, > > Over the week-end the LCD back panel casing of my ThinkPad 560X received a > hit, the casing has no cracks and the LCD display shows no sign of damages, > is there something I should be worried of ! > > Thanks Neil. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 13:00:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA03020 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12510; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:58:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12311; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12299; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:57:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA06811; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:57:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "David Ross" , , "TP List" , "Randal Whittle" Subject: RE: TP 600 trackpoint Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 09:57:39 -0700 Message-ID: <002101bdebca$44094020$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <003301bdeb4d$553cd0a0$99197e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > From: David Ross [mailto:ross@math.hawaii.edu] > Subject: Re: TP 600 trackpoint > > FWIW, one can adjust the mouse sensitivity (under W95) in the > registry far beyond what is possible at the control panel or using > Tweakui. I did this to my wife's TI6030, which also seemed too > insensitive until I hacked. I don't remember where these settings > were anymore, but I first read about them somewhere on zdnet, on > a tips or registry page there. Here's a general technique you can use to find out where any setting is stored in the Registry. 1. Run RegEdit and Export the entire registry to a file. 2. Change your setting. 3. Hit F5 in RegEdit, or restart RegEdit, and then Export to a different file. 4. Use any file-compare tool to compre the two text files. WinDiff is good if you have it, or the FC program that comes with Windows will also do. -Mike http://www.geary.com mailto:mg@mg.to ham:WJ6V From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 13:38:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA03475 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14517; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:35:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14319; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate1.ezcomm.com (root@cyliax.bluemarble.net [204.89.253.177]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14304; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hugo.ezcomm.com (hugo.ezcomm.com [129.79.238.52]) by gate1.ezcomm.com (8.8.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA11518; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:35:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hugo.ezcomm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo.ezcomm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA00800; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:40:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199809291740.MAA00800@hugo.ezcomm.com> To: "Neil Di Meglio" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How solid are ThinkPad 560's casing ? In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:38:03 -0400. <000401bdebb6$c43932a0$615db5cf@thinkpad-765d> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:40:36 -0500 From: Ingo Cyliax List-Unsubscribe: + Hi All, + + Over the week-end the LCD back panel casing of my ThinkPad 560X received a + hit, the casing has no cracks and the LCD display shows no sign of damages, + is there something I should be worried of ! The TP560's are surprisingly robust. I have used 560/560e on the road almost every day. It's lighter, so if it does take a jar/fall, it has less momentum so it's less likely to damage seriousely. So far I have lost/broken the lower corners of my LCD panel and the lid to the PCMCIA slot, which are pretty much cosmetic. There are two gotchas. On the 560's the lid is kind of flexible, so the trackpoint and buttons sometimes rub on the LCD scratching it over time. Make sure that the bag you have it has a fairly stiff divider and the screen/buttons dosn't have too dust/dirt on them, making it less likely to scratch. The 560e lid seems a little stiffer and I haven't noticed the flexing as much. Also, _read this_. If your 560 rides in the car or plane a lot, the vibrations tend to loosen the screws that hold the case together. The first time I noticed this was after I had already lost 2-3 screws (in 6mo.). Luckily the screws were in the bottom of my bag. Anyway, now I do a screw tightening checkup once a month. Careful, don't over tighten. You could also apply some Loctite(tm) to the screw threads. Note that there are also screws under the little black dot's, which are afflicted with this. I have seen 3 560's with loose screws; I don't think it was an isolated incident/QA problem. Hope this helps. See ya, -ingo From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 14:39:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04301 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19879; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:32:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:29:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19088; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marine.sonic.net (marine.sonic.net [208.201.224.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19071; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:28:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29150 invoked from network); 29 Sep 1998 18:28:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sub.sonic.net) (208.201.224.8) by marine.sonic.net with SMTP; 29 Sep 1998 18:28:41 -0000 Received: from y2k3f6 (d198.nas18.sonic.net [208.201.231.198]) by sub.sonic.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA22432 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:28:39 -0700 X-envelope-info: Message-ID: <002801bdebd5$f6557900$c6e7c9d0@y2k3f6> From: "James Brix" To: Subject: REMOVE Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:21:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01BDEB9B.4829D040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BDEB9B.4829D040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable REMOVE ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BDEB9B.4829D040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BDEB9B.4829D040-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 14:41:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04317 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:41:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20263; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:33:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19916; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19740; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p07.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.76]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA09004; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809291828.LAA09004@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Tue, 29 Sep 98 11:29:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701: Uses LBA? List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:37:46 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >Paul.. > >RANDOM THOUGHTS: > >the term "Distributed Processing" comes to mind.. >then there is a group which tries to break the encryption algorithm by >using hundreds of different machines onver the internet.. >i forget the details.. >but think of the future.. :-) > Bingo. That's what I'm on, but it's getting old and boring now. >with all these thinkpads, my mind keeps going to the idea of a LAN with >individual machines doing different jobs.. all laced together by a LAN >and feeding data to each other.. >kill one machine and the others take over.. Well not that, though. > >when I lived in Palo Alto i kept my horses on arastradero road, between >page mill and portola road.. >across from the barn (before it burned down in a brush fire) was the >Stanford AI Lab building.. Okay... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 16:05:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05409 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27364; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:04:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:02:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27097; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fsp.fsp.com (fsp.fsp.com [157.134.205.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27040; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fsp.fsp.com (8.8.7/1.35) id UAA21807; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:02:33 GMT From: wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com (William J. Dodd) Message-Id: <199809292002.UAA21807@fsp.fsp.com> Subject: Partition Magic 4.0--the rest of the story! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad Mailing List) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:02:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: I'm sorry! I accidentally sent my previous message without adding the following (a few of the new Partition Magic features): * Native Windows 95/98 and NT Executables - Now you can run PartitionMagic without leaving Windows and take advantage of the enhanced interface and functionality for even greater efficiency. * Large Drive Support - PartitionMagic 4.0 now supports hard drives even larger than 20 GB! * Linux Support - Now you can create, resize and move Linux ext2 and Linux swap partitions without losing data. * Expanded File System Support - Complete support for FAT16, FAT16X, FAT32, FAT32X, NTFS, HPFS and Linux Ext2 partition types. Convert >from FAT to FAT32, FAT to NTFS, FAT to HPFS, and FAT32 to FAT without losing data. Enjoy comprehensive support no matter what file system you are using. See http://www.digitalriver.com/PM4Y2K for more info. (No, I _don't_ work for PowerQuest.) -- ===================| William J. Dodd |"Sometimes my brilliance astonishes even me." wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com | Dr. Who (Tom Baker) _Invisible Enemy_ ===================| From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 16:07:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05438 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26897; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:01:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:57:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26548; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:57:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fsp.fsp.com (fsp.fsp.com [157.134.205.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26522; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fsp.fsp.com (8.8.7/1.35) id TAA21731; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:56:49 GMT From: wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com (William J. Dodd) Message-Id: <199809291956.TAA21731@fsp.fsp.com> Subject: Partition Magic 4.0 does Linux! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad Mailing List) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:56:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: I just received an email announcement that Partition Magic 4.0 is being released. It promises a host of new features that many ThinkPad users are sure to appreciate; the ones that caught my eye are: -- ===================| William J. Dodd |"Sometimes my brilliance astonishes even me." wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com | Dr. Who (Tom Baker) _Invisible Enemy_ ===================| From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 16:12:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05502 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28021; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:09:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27832; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:09:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (root@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.134.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27819; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:08:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gtwang@localhost (fake: stdin (HELO localhost) (ident: uid#20647@localhost)) by calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <366747-22142>; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:08:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Sender: Gerald Wang From: Gerald Wang X-Sender: gtwang@calum To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP350c] Greetings! In-Reply-To: <3610882B.5F83401F@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > the 350 IS an old machine.. > the loose top is a common problem.. > you might check the screws accessible from the rear of the machine.. > if tightening these does not help the loose top cover problem,then the > hinge attachment points inside the top may have come loose and will need > some epoxy glue.. > not reccommended for those unfamilier with the inside of a TP.. Thanks for the suggestion, Bill. There weren't any exposed screws that I could find however this quirk doesn't really bother me so I'm going to leave it for now. If the wobbling gets so bad that the lid slams shut, then I'll be worried. :-) > aside from being old (not so bad, I'm old) and loose.. (i'm THAT too on > occasion) it is a good old workhorse.. I'm surprised at how well it runs Win95, considering that it's a 486 running at 25mhz. I guess it's because of the amount of RAM it has. I remember reading somewhere that the video uses VRAM - this is definitely noticeable. It makes the machine snappier. > the Dual Scan display is, well.. hmm.. > your next thinkpad will have a TFT display.. :-) Actually, mine isn't even that advanced. :-( AFAIK, it's just a plain STN display. I went in to our on-campus computer store today to check out some newer Thinkpads. They only had the 380D on display and I was somewhat dismayed at the cosmetics of that unit. I almost wrote "build quality" but I think cosmetics is a better word as I was basing my judgement mostly on looks. The 380D looks a lot cheaper than my old 350c. And it takes up more space too. Other than that, it bests mine in all other areas - speed (obviously), keyboard feel, built-in CD-ROM, 12.1" DSTN display (though I'd much rather have a TFT ). I noticed some uneven backlighting on that display which I found interesting. Anyways, the store is clearing them out for $1645 Cdn (~$1100 US) but I think I'll wait. I'd rather save up for a 560 series. :-) Regards, Gerald From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 16:25:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05692 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:25:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20735; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:35:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20141; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20115; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p07.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.76]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA09576; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809291832.LAA09576@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Date: Tue, 29 Sep 98 11:33:32 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP350c] Greetings! List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:11:39 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >Gerald.. >the 350 IS an old machine.. >the loose top is a common problem.. Yeah, tell me about it. Hey, anyone wanna buy one? I'm DEAD SERIOUS! >you might check the screws accessible from the rear of the machine.. There are only 2, in the access panel. You open the machine by prying up the top cover from the bottom. This has got to be the easiest ThinkPad to take apart, but is not fun to work with. :( >if tightening these does not help the loose top cover problem,then the >hinge attachment points inside the top may have come loose and will need >some epoxy glue.. >not reccommended for those unfamilier with the inside of a TP.. > >aside from being old (not so bad, I'm old) and loose.. (i'm THAT too on >occasion) it is a good old workhorse.. > For being a 486SL-25, it's a pretty good machine. The graphics are C&T 65530, but you can't find anything but Windows 3.1 drivers anymore. :( >the Dual Scan display is, well.. hmm.. I think those DSTN LCDs stunk. They really started improving when the 701 came out. >your next thinkpad will have a TFT display.. :-) > Or next notebook period. I've only owned one ThinkPad with TFT, my 355C. But I like 10.4" on my SPARCbook better than 8.4" on my 355C. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 18:25:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA07154 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:25:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03251; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:20:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03048; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (root@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.134.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03035; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gtwang@localhost (fake: stdin (HELO localhost) (ident: uid#20647@localhost)) by calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <366754-22142>; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:20:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Sender: Gerald Wang From: Gerald Wang X-Sender: gtwang@calum To: Paul Khoury cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: [TP350c] Greetings! In-Reply-To: <199809291832.LAA09576@stevie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > Yeah, tell me about it. Hey, anyone wanna buy one? I'm DEAD SERIOUS! Hey, I might be interested (my grandfather could really use one). Do you have a working battery for yours? > There are only 2, in the access panel. You open the machine by prying up the top > cover from the bottom. This has got to be the easiest ThinkPad to take apart, but is > not fun to work with. :( Hmm.. I'll give this a try tonight. > For being a 486SL-25, it's a pretty good machine. The graphics are C&T 65530, but > you can't find anything but Windows 3.1 drivers anymore. :( Actually there is a Win95 256-colour driver for this chipset. I think it comes with OSR2 as that's what I have installed on mine. From the driver details, the name is "Chips & Tech. Super VGA", the date is 7-29-1996, version: 4.03.00.1096, and provider is Microsoft Corporation. I think the filename is CHIPS.VXD. The problem I'm having though is trying to get my Ethernet PCMCIA card to work under Win95. It gets autodetected properly but it behaves as if it isn't connected to an active network. I don't think it's the card as my friend tried his and it behaved the same way too. Also, since I've reinstalled Win95 it is only recognizing the first 16MB of the installed RAM. I'm pretty certain that it detected the full 20MB before. I'm going to research and play around with these issues some more before I take up anymore traffic on the list. :-) Thanks, Gerald From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 19:02:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA07495 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:02:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04969; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:00:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:52:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04451; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04435; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:52:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA12131; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:52:26 -1000 Message-ID: <003101bdebfb$d6e51d20$ce1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Michael Geary" , , "TP List" , "Randal Whittle" Subject: Re: TP 600 trackpoint Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:52:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >Here's a general technique you can use to find out where any setting is >stored in the Registry. [snip] Yes, but I think the modifications I made to my wife's TI were in a setting that the W95 control panel adjustments leaves alone - you can use the described technique to find the *part* of the registry where the adjustments took place, but not the value changes I made. Easier might be to search the zdnet site for the same article I found. - David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Sep 29 22:49:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA09481 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:49:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13501; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:46:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13280; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13268; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:46:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA13582; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:46:02 -1000 Message-ID: <005c01bdec1c$7a292c40$931a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Neil Di Meglio" , "Ingo Cyliax" Cc: Subject: [TP560] Screws (was: How solid are ThinkPad 560's casing ? ) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:46:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Ingo wrote: >Also, _read this_. If your 560 rides in the car or plane a lot, the >vibrations tend to loosen the screws that hold the case together. Let me second this; every 560 owner should regularly tighten the screws. These screws are nontrivial to replace, and do pop out when you're not paying attention. Doesn't require vehicular travel, just travel - a 3 mile walk on my shoulder is usually enough for the memory slot cover on my machine to unscrew, for example. - David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 00:16:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10329 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16894; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:15:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:12:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16727; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:12:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16714; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:12:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from garygins (pool028-max1.ds23-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.24.178]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA14642 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:12:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ginstling/Ransom" To: "IBM Thinkpad" Subject: list info Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:08:55 -0700 Message-ID: <000501bdec28$0a7f3e00$b218b3d1@garygins> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Sorry to bother the list with this but I haven't been able to find the information any other place- I lost all my mailboxes and all my subscription info for the list, and I would like to send a "remove" command but can't figure out where to send it. Could someone tell me the address to use when subscribing/unsubscribing from the thinkpad list? TIA, Gary G ginsuransom@earthlink.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 01:06:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA10658 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18720; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:03:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18557; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torgo.punk.net (torgo.punk.net [207.114.150.54]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18538; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:03:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by torgo.punk.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA03438; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:09:15 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:09:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: Ingo Cyliax cc: Neil Di Meglio , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How solid are ThinkPad 560's casing ? In-Reply-To: <199809291740.MAA00800@hugo.ezcomm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Ingo Cyliax wrote: > are afflicted with this. I have seen 3 560's with loose screws; I > don't think it was an isolated incident/QA problem. I have to retighten the screws on mine every few months and I don't move mine around all that much. I noticed the case having a bit more "twist flex" that I thought it should and checked the screws. They were a little loose, but not too bad. It is just something tto watch out for. ============================================================================ ==== Help crack RC5 64-bit encryption -- http://www.distributed.net/rc5 ==== ============================================================================ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 02:09:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA11355 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20298; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:07:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20131; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20118; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:06:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p00.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.69]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA13301; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809300604.XAA13301@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Gerald Wang" Date: Tue, 29 Sep 98 23:05:46 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP350c] Greetings! List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:20:10 -0400 (EDT), Gerald Wang wrote: >On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > >> Yeah, tell me about it. Hey, anyone wanna buy one? I'm DEAD SERIOUS! > >Hey, I might be interested (my grandfather could really use one). Do you >have a working battery for yours? > When I bought it, they said 40-60 minutes. Seems about right. I have it on eBay (username pkhoury). >> There are only 2, in the access panel. You open the machine by prying up the top >> cover from the bottom. This has got to be the easiest ThinkPad to take apart, but is >> not fun to work with. :( > >Hmm.. I'll give this a try tonight. > Be careful, there are lots of flex cables inside, and they are quite fragile. >> For being a 486SL-25, it's a pretty good machine. The graphics are C&T 65530, but >> you can't find anything but Windows 3.1 drivers anymore. :( > >Actually there is a Win95 256-colour driver for this chipset. I think it >comes with OSR2 as that's what I have installed on mine. From the driver >details, the name is "Chips & Tech. Super VGA", the date is 7-29-1996, >version: 4.03.00.1096, and provider is Microsoft Corporation. I think the >filename is CHIPS.VXD. > Hmmm... I can't find anything from Chips, err, Intel's site. But I know it is a Chips & Tech. 65530 (and I have another unit that's for parts to prove it). >The problem I'm having though is trying to get my Ethernet PCMCIA card to >work under Win95. It gets autodetected properly but it behaves as if it >isn't connected to an active network. Hmmm, same problem, except it doesn't like my card PERIOD. I'm using OS/2 Warp Connect. I don't think it's the card as my >friend tried his and it behaved the same way too. Same system, or also on Win95? Also, since I've >reinstalled Win95 it is only recognizing the first 16MB of the installed >RAM. I'm pretty certain that it detected the full 20MB before. Did you upgrade to the latest BIOS? I think it's at ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/350biosi.exe (I was there last night for some .pdf files, and memorized the url). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 02:10:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA11365 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20410; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:08:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20214; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:08:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20192; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:08:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p00.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.69]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA13457; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809300605.XAA13457@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Ginstling/Ransom" , "IBM Thinkpad" Date: Tue, 29 Sep 98 23:07:00 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: list info List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:08:55 -0700, Ginstling/Ransom wrote: >Sorry to bother the list with this but I haven't been able to find the >information any other place- I lost all my mailboxes and all my subscription >info for the list, and I would like to send a "remove" command but can't >figure out where to send it. > >Could someone tell me the address to use when subscribing/unsubscribing from >the thinkpad list? > It's in the headers. For everyone else who doesn't know how, send a message saying unsubscribe youremail@provider.com to thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu which is read by the listserv, not a human (not usually). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 02:21:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA11410 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20913; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:19:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20811; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:19:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20789; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ycxfssto.dhcp.ttu.edu ([129.118.194.87]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19980930061849.NXDA2580@ycxfssto.dhcp.ttu.edu> for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 06:18:49 +0000 Message-ID: <001701bdec3a$a0cd2860$57c27681@ycxfssto.dhcp.ttu.edu> From: "Stanley Chen" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Trackpoint keyboards Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:21:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BDEC10.B6EA9260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BDEC10.B6EA9260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Group, I realize that this is a little bit off topic, but I'm not sure where = else to go with these questions. I've recently bought an IBM PS/2 Model = 9533-2BX which is kind of, but not really a desktop. IBM used their = ThinkPad technology in an attempt to create a "Green" network machine in = a very small box. Anyway, I'm trying to run down the necessary parts to = make this a functional standalone unit. These would include a matching = LCD display, adapter card w/ PCMCIA slots, and a mini keyboard with a = trackpoint. I seem to remember someone on the list making reference to = these keyboards some time last month. If anyone could give me a hand = with any information either about the machine or where to find parts, = I'd be very grateful. If any of you have anything, please contact me = directly so we can limit the the amount of off topic traffic. Thank you = all for your patience. Stanley Chen Texas Tech University Dept. of Housing and Dining ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BDEC10.B6EA9260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Group,
 
I realize that this is a little bit = off topic,=20 but I'm not sure where else to go with these questions. I've recently = bought an=20 IBM PS/2 Model 9533-2BX which is kind of, but not really a desktop. IBM = used=20 their ThinkPad technology in an attempt to create a "Green" = network=20 machine in a very small box. Anyway, I'm trying to run down the = necessary parts=20 to make this a functional standalone unit. These would include a = matching LCD=20 display, adapter card w/ PCMCIA slots, and a mini keyboard with a = trackpoint. I=20 seem to remember someone on the list making reference to these keyboards = some=20 time last month. If anyone could give me a hand with any information = either=20 about the machine or where to find parts, I'd be very grateful. If any = of you=20 have anything, please contact me directly so we can limit the the amount = of off=20 topic traffic. Thank you all for your patience.
 
Stanley Chen
Texas Tech University
Dept. of Housing and=20 Dining
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BDEC10.B6EA9260-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 05:32:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA12484 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 05:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA04099; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 05:31:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 05:29:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03952; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 05:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03940; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 05:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lou (user-38ld50e.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.148.14]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA23901 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 05:28:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980930021547.00a6b5a0@mindspring.com> X-Sender: lou1358@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:15:47 -0700 To: ThinkPad list From: Lou Subject: Re: Hard Drive Utilization In-Reply-To: <360EA4DC.9F799621@icanect.net> References: <000201bde951$14a321a0$f2bcfea9@770> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: On my Desktop I have had one paritition (E:) devoted to data only for years. That way I only had to backup one partition daily or every other day since apps rarely change but data changes often. Currently my desktop has 11 g partitioned from C: to L: Since my tape drive gave up the ghost, I am able to use a 1g Sparq to keep my backup of my data (When the !@#$%^ Sparq works, of course.) At 04:49 PM 9/27/98 -0400, you wrote: >I suggest ONE HUGE partition for those who will be using a 2nd HDD in >their machine.. >helps keep the drive letters from becoming scrambled... > >not sure if data on "D:" and Apps on "C:" is a good idea.. >IMO best keep it all close by (physically) so there is less seeking >going on.. > Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 08:12:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA13315 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:12:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07175; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:07:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06913; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06901; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pp.cc.binghamton.edu (bing43.net107.binghamton.edu [128.226.107.43]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA17163; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980930080816.0079c360@free-music.com> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:08:16 -0400 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: Safe to save RESULTS of IBM disk images? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: About how IBM's disk-image programs work, the ones from their site that then extract to various driver disks on floppy: Does anyone know enough about how the program works, to know whether or not it'd be safe to just capture the entire floppy disk with, say, a Zip program? In some cases, it seems obvious that it'd work, but in others (like the BIOS update disk) I worry. If it's OK to do this, then I think I'll create each of the driver disks, Zip them, and put them on a CD. (I realize they'll get outdated, but this at least gives me the ability to update my system if it fails, without having to wait TOO MANY hours to recreate the floppies, and without having to keep a stack of 30 floppies handy.) Ken - kenzo@free-music.com - - http://free-music.com/ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 09:04:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA13657 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09082; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:04:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:02:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08966; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08952; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:01:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user (bing232.net108.binghamton.edu [128.226.108.232]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA01005 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809301301.JAA01005@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-travaganza: http://free-music.com/ken Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:56:56 -0400 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TP] Busy signal detection-Windows 95's fault? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: OK, I've looked a bit deeper into my problem (my TP770ED modem with Windows 95 OSR/2 doesn't ever detect dial tone, and just dials away whether there's a dial tone or not) - the Dial-Up Networking sends "ATDT;" to the modem, waits for "OK", then sends the "ATDT####" dialing string. The problem is, "ATDT;" will return "OK" no matter what, and thus effectively bypasses dial-tone detection. Any suggestions? Why is it sending the "ATDT;"? How can I change it? How are all the other users of WIndows 95 OSR/2 ever having busy-signal detection? (My country is set to USA. The behavior is the same whether or not I have "busy-signal detection" enabled in the appropriate window.) Ken - kenzo@free-music.com - - http://free-music.com/ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 09:49:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA13969 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11820; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:48:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:45:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11615; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11602; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA17738; Wed, 30 Sep 98 09:45:04 EDT Message-Id: <36123604.2651C10@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:45:40 -0400 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Ken Cc: Thinkpad Subject: Re: Safe to save RESULTS of IBM disk images? References: <3.0.5.32.19980930080816.0079c360@free-music.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I've done something similar. However, often times when trying to install out of directories instead of floppies I would run into trouble (e.g., saying please insert such and such floppy in drive A:). Basically, some of the multi-floppy installations seem to be hardwired to use a floppy. The BIOS definitely needs to be on a floppy. Having said that, many of the installations worked fine out of directories. Some of the multi-floppy ones seemed to work if I just copied all of the files from a series of floppies into a single directory. The moral is give it a try. I really hate how the IBM downloads *require* you to make a floppy instead of giving you the option of installing into a directory. --Lee From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 10:26:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA14265 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:26:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14142; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:24:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13991; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13954; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user (bing21.net107.binghamton.edu [128.226.107.21]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA00817 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:23:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809301423.KAA00817@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-travaganza: http://free-music.com/ken Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:23:28 -0400 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TP] Getting dial-tone detection working-REGEDIT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: The poor, temporary solution I came up was to edit the modem section of the registry, and change the "DialSuffix" key from ";" to ";h". This causes the modem, during a typical Windows 95 dial-up connection, to pick up the phone, hang up the phone, and then pick up again, wait for dial tone, and dial. (I.e. The modem sends "ATD;H", which causes a pickup, a hangup, and an "OK" result code. Then the modem sends "ATDT####" which either dials, or returns "NO DIALTONE" if there's no dialtone.) This solution is bad because (a) it slows down the dialing process, and (b) in the event that I use any other dialing program that actually has a reason to send a dialing string, and then return to the command state, my solution will cause that program to hang up prematurely. I could solve problem (a) if I could figure out how to embed a couple of backspace characters into a text registry key. When I change the key to a binary key, it's rejected by dial-up networking. And, REGEDIT doesn't let you enter a backspace character into a text key. Any suggestions for how to sneak the backspace in here, without having to hexedit my registry? Problem (b), however, isn't going to go away. Does anyone know why Windows 95 is insisting on sending the "ATD;" string initially? Is dial-tone detection just a luxury that Windows 95 OSR/2 (or others?) users don't get? Or is there some other obscure, seemingly unrelated setting that's causing this initial string to be sent? Thanks for any suggestions. Ken - kenzo@free-music.com - - http://free-music.com/ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 10:57:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA14517 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:57:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15720; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:54:53 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15470; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:54:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id KAA04301; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thanatos.clara.net (qmailr@thanatos.clara.net [195.8.69.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15120; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16056 invoked from network); 30 Sep 1998 14:47:00 -0000 Received: from du-1114.claranet.co.uk (195.8.77.79) by mail.clara.net with SMTP; 30 Sep 1998 14:47:00 -0000 From: nickdixon@bigfoot.com (Nick Dixon) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: PCMCIA modem question Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:46:43 GMT Message-ID: <36134100.591142@mail.clara.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I just got a Pace NB 56.6 PCMCIA modem for my 380XD. It seems to work great and I was getting 50,000bps connections when I used it at work last night. However, when I got home and used it - the modem said that it was "connected at 112,500bps" I tried adding W2 in the extra settings and it worked initially. Now though, it's back to "connected at 112,500bps" Can anyone help? Nick -- ------------------------------------------------ THE DAILY DAMON: http://www.thedailydamon.clara.net Damon Hill...news...gossip...interviews...results ------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 10:59:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA14542 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15911; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:56:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15602; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.divms.uiowa.edu (server.divms.uiowa.edu [128.255.28.165]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15566; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:56:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tractor.cs.uiowa.edu (tractor.cs.uiowa.edu [128.255.28.65]) by server.divms.uiowa.edu with id JAA13060 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:56:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199809301456.JAA13060@server.divms.uiowa.edu> Subject: linux thinkpad 560 dead keyboard, live mouse To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:56:28 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: bonak@cs.uiowa.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello Everyone, Every once in a while when I come out of suspend with my Thinkpad 560x under Linux my keyboard is dead, i.e., I can't do anything with the keys, HOWEVER my mouse still works and I can open and close windows etc ... just nothing with the keyboard. Everything else still works. I usually have to end up doing a shutdown since nothing I can think of can get the keyboard going. I've got APM working great, this is use RH 5.1 Linux w/ 2.0.34 kernel. Anyone encounter a similar situation? Any suggestions how to revive a keyboard? Thanks, Esmail PS: Please also mail me directly. ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak HELP! MY TYPEWRITER IS BROKEN! -- E. E. CUMMINGS From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 11:09:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA14637 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16785; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:06:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16522; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rocky-out.summa4.com ([208.7.172.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16475; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hal.summa4.com by rocky-out.summa4.com via smtpd (for CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) with SMTP; 30 Sep 1998 15:05:56 UT Received: from localhost (kend@localhost) by hal.summa4.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA20058; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:06:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: hal.summa4.com: kend owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:06:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" To: Esmail Bonakdarian cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: linux thinkpad 560 dead keyboard, live mouse In-Reply-To: <199809301456.JAA13060@server.divms.uiowa.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Any chance, at all, that your numlock might be on? That tends to give abberant behavior... Ken D'Ambrosio SysAdmin, Summa Four, Inc. On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Esmail Bonakdarian wrote: > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:56:28 -0500 (CDT) > From: Esmail Bonakdarian > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: linux thinkpad 560 dead keyboard, live mouse > > Hello Everyone, > > Every once in a while when I come out of suspend with my Thinkpad 560x > under Linux my keyboard is dead, i.e., I can't do anything with the > keys, HOWEVER my mouse still works and I can open and close windows > etc ... just nothing with the keyboard. Everything else still works. > > I usually have to end up doing a shutdown since nothing I can think > of can get the keyboard going. > > I've got APM working great, this is use RH 5.1 Linux w/ 2.0.34 > kernel. > > Anyone encounter a similar situation? > > Any suggestions how to revive a keyboard? > > Thanks, > > Esmail > PS: Please also mail me directly. > ---- > Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak > > HELP! MY TYPEWRITER IS BROKEN! -- E. E. CUMMINGS > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 11:23:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA14766 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:23:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18014; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:19:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17709; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:19:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.divms.uiowa.edu (server.divms.uiowa.edu [128.255.28.165]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17695; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:19:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tractor.cs.uiowa.edu (tractor.cs.uiowa.edu [128.255.28.65]) by server.divms.uiowa.edu with id KAA15576; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:19:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199809301519.KAA15576@server.divms.uiowa.edu> Subject: Re: linux thinkpad 560 dead keyboard, live mouse To: kend@summa4.com (Ken D'Ambrosio) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:19:14 -0500 (CDT) Cc: bonak@cs.uiowa.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: bonak@cs.uiowa.edu In-Reply-To: from "Ken D'Ambrosio" at Sep 30, 98 11:06:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ken D'Ambrosio writes: > > Any chance, at all, that your numlock might be on? That tends to give > abberant behavior... Hi Ken, I'm pretty sure I checked this, but not 100% sure. Next time this happens I'll double check. This doesn't happen frequently enough (luckily) for me to establish a clear pattern, or the ability to reproduce it at will. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give it a try next time it happens. Esmail > Ken D'Ambrosio > SysAdmin, > Summa Four, Inc. > > > From: Esmail Bonakdarian > > Subject: linux thinkpad 560 dead keyboard, live mouse > > > > Every once in a while when I come out of suspend with my Thinkpad 560x > > under Linux my keyboard is dead, i.e., I can't do anything with the > > keys, HOWEVER my mouse still works and I can open and close windows > > etc ... just nothing with the keyboard. Everything else still works. > > > > I usually have to end up doing a shutdown since nothing I can think > > of can get the keyboard going. > > > > I've got APM working great, this is use RH 5.1 Linux w/ 2.0.34 > > kernel. > > > > Anyone encounter a similar situation? > > > > Any suggestions how to revive a keyboard? ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak HELP! MY TYPEWRITER IS BROKEN! -- E. E. CUMMINGS From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 12:14:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA15372 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20997; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:10:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20724; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:10:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20712; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA07799 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:10:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:10:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [Thinkpad] 560E XF86Config file anyone? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I got one crack at setting it up last night and it didn't work (ended up with a double-sized 320x200 display in the center of my screen - weird). Since there was other weirdness with the install (ended up with nearly 500MB of stuff even though I only selected 350MB), I'll probably do a reinstall tonight. I'd appreciate it if someone could email me their XF86Config file. Are there any web sites with info on Linux on the 560E? The only ones I found were nearly a year old, or were about the 560X and Z (different video chipset). -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 13:37:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA16429 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:37:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25969; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:30:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25571; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom2.netcom.com (genepool@netcom2.netcom.com [192.100.81.108]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25556; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from genepool@localhost) by netcom2.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id KAA14036; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:29:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Michael Subject: Solaris on 380? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I have ordered the free Solaris CD and want to install on my 380D. Has anyone done this, I know the Neomagic driver support was a problem with Linux. Is it supported under Solaris? TIA. Cheers, Jim From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 14:09:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA16879 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:09:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27809; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:04:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27619; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27596; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809301804.OAA27596@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Thu, 29 Sep 1988 11:00:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Jim Michael" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:05:29 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Solaris on 380? List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:29:07 -0700 (PDT), Jim Michael wrote: >, I know the Neomagic driver support was a problem with >Linux. Is it supported under Solaris? TIA. There are now very good neomagic drivers for linux. I don't know about solaris. ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 15:45:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA18033 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 15:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03415; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 15:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 15:37:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03047; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 15:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.1.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03034; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 15:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.194]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28620 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:37:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.43); 30 Sep 98 21:37:21 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.43); 30 Sep 98 21:37:00 +0200 Received: from magrathea.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.130) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.43) with ESMTP; 30 Sep 98 21:36:54 +0200 Received: from voyager.stelarcom.de (voyager.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.10]) by Magrathea.stelarcom.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA00548 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:00:00 +0200 Message-Id: <199809301900.VAA00548@Magrathea.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:59:58 -0100 Reply-To: "Alexander Wanger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Suspend/Hibernat on 760 (OS/2) List-Unsubscribe: Hi! Just a question: What fact can hinder my 760 to suspend or hibernate? Sometimes it simply doesn't enter either of these modes. If I use Fuel-Object I get "Can't enter hibernation mode", if I use Fn-F12 I get nothing at all. The same for Fn-F4. I suspect this behaviour mostly if I used XFree86/2. -- CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You may also reply to Alexander.Wagner@gmx.de or Alexander.Wagner@gmx.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 20:28:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA21933 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:28:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15222; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:28:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:23:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14881; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:23:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.119.93]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14868; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.119.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.8.8/(98/08/04 5.11)) id UAA18173; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:23:02 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from crc3.concentric.net (ts002d36.okc-ok.concentric.net [206.173.130.96]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.8.8) id UAA04663; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3612CAEF.4BE2CEDD@concentric.net> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:21:03 -0500 From: "Robert D. Baron" Reply-To: rbaron@concentric.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Flight Sim or GP on TP600? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: After lurking and looking for a while I'm about to make the plunge for the TP600 P2 300mhz 13.3 TFT 5GB (264545U; now $4198 at PC Connection and hopefully still dropping)....which is about at the upper end of my budget....but the issue has arisen: can I reasonably run such games as Flight Simulator or Grand Prix? Or do I need to refocus my thinking on a 770 model with much more video power? I _really_ don't want the extra weight (and a 770 might be above my budget) but this computerwill be doing double duty at home and on the road (not at the office) so I would like the ability to divert myself with the occasional smooth running game. TIA, --Bob Baron From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 20:59:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA22244 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16740; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:56:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16506; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.ametro.net (root@mail.ametro.net [205.216.82.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16494; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brianbre (mob1-41.ametro.net [209.16.91.41]) by mail.ametro.net (8.8.8/AMC) with SMTP id TAA18309 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:56:10 -0500 Message-ID: <00a801bdecd6$a68c2200$295b10d1@brianbre> From: "Brian Bream" To: Subject: Hurricane Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:58:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA-1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A3_01BDECAC.B4376060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01BDECAC.B4376060 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A0_01BDECAC.B40505C0" ------=_NextPart_000_00A0_01BDECAC.B40505C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey guys & gals.... Just wanted to let everyone know that I made it through the hurricane. = Lost 5 tree's, some siding and shingles. Some flooding damage but = nothing major. Just got my mail (all 100+ messages !!). My ISP is = located in Biloxi, MS so I was without service for 4 days. Anyhow, I do = communicate with some of you, majority of it off line and just wanted to = let you know we made it. Thanks, Brian Bream Mobile, AL ------=_NextPart_000_00A0_01BDECAC.B40505C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey guys & gals....
 
Just wanted to let everyone know = that I made it=20 through the hurricane.  Lost 5 tree's, some siding and = shingles.  Some=20 flooding damage but nothing major.  Just got my mail (all 100+ = messages=20 !!).  My ISP is located in Biloxi, MS so I was without service for = 4=20 days.  Anyhow, I do communicate with some of you, majority of it = off line=20 and just wanted to let you know we made it.
 
Thanks,
Brian Bream
Mobile, = AL
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Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:06:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17326; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:04:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17100; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:04:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from repulse (repulse.concentric.net [207.155.248.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17086; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:04:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earlbrya (209-142-6-149.stk.inreach.net [209.142.6.149]) by repulse (8.9.1/) id VAA29304; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:04:14 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay] Message-ID: <199810010104.VAA29304@repulse> From: "Love and Jones Webmaster" Organization: Love and Jones Paralegal...The law is on yo To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:04:41 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [TP 755 ALL] Breaking the 40MB Barrier Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: I was interested in expanding memory in my TP755CD, and I was just wondering. I see a lot of the owners of thinkpads here with high double and triple MB's of memory in their machines. I was wondering if the same if possible with the above models. I know that there are DIMM adapters that hold two memory modules that go in place of the "credit card". I was wondering if the machine would work if, say, I put two sticks of 64MB DIMMS in there. What is the highest MB count you've seen in these machines? So far, the only upgrades I've run across that are close are the 32MB cards, or the adapter from Simple Technologies with the two 16's in them. tha' Duke! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 21:18:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA22494 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18079; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:18:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:16:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17907; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send102.yahoomail.com (send102.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17895; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19981001001410.10050.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.156.155.214] by send102.yahoomail.com; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:14:10 PDT Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:14:10 -0700 (PDT) From: H Doan Subject: Optimal refresh rates for LCD? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: What is the optimal refresh rate.. Some people say 60 hz is fine.. I currently have mine at 85 Does it effect power consumption. thanks HD _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 21:41:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA22776 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19406; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:38:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19041; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:38:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19023; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p22.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.91]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA26888; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810010135.SAA26888@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Stanley Chen" , "Thinkpad" Date: Wed, 30 Sep 98 18:37:20 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Trackpoint keyboards List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:21:56 -0500, Stanley Chen wrote: >Hello Group, > >I realize that this is a little bit off topic, but I'm not sure where else to go with these questions. I've recently bought an IBM PS/2 Model 9533-2BX which is kind of, but not really a desktop. IBM used their ThinkPad technology in an attempt to create a "Green" network machine in a very small box. Anyway, I'm trying to run down the necessary parts to make this a functional standalone unit. These would include a matching LCD display, adapter card w/ PCMCIA slots, and a mini keyboard with a trackpoint. I think it might have been Bill Morrow. Regardless of who said it, I think the person said they had several. I seem to remember someone on the list making reference to these keyboards some time last month. If anyone could give me a hand with any information either about the machine or where to find parts, I'd be very grateful. If any of you have anything, please contact me directly so we can limit the the amount of off topic traffic. Thank you all for your patience. > As for the LCD, I think one of IBM's newer LCD panels might also work. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 22:59:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA23697 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19262; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:38:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18983; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18969; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p22.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.91]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA26703; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810010134.SAA26703@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Brian Bream" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 30 Sep 98 18:35:55 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hurricane List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:58:28 -0500, Brian Bream wrote: > Please, no attachments. Send again. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 23:10:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA23810 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:10:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22579; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:07:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22359; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:07:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.ametro.net (mail.ametro.net [205.216.82.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22342; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:07:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brianbre (mob1-24.ametro.net [209.16.91.24]) by mail.ametro.net (8.8.8/AMC) with SMTP id WAA21896 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:07:00 -0500 Message-ID: <00e701bdece8$eee51400$295b10d1@brianbre> From: "Brian Bream" To: Subject: Fw: Hurricane Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:09:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E4_01BDECBF.02FA2AE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01BDECBF.02FA2AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Brian Bream To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wednesday, September 30, 1998 7:58 PM Subject: Hurricane Hey guys & gals.... =20 Just wanted to let everyone know that I made it through the hurricane. = Lost 5 tree's, some siding and shingles. Some flooding damage but = nothing major. Just got my mail (all 100+ messages !!). My ISP is = located in Biloxi, MS so I was without service for 4 days. Anyhow, I do = communicate with some of you, majority of it off line and just wanted to = let you know we made it. =20 Thanks, Brian Bream Mobile, AL ------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01BDECBF.02FA2AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
From: Brian Bream <brianb@datasync.com>
To:= thinkpad@cs.utk.edu <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>
Dat= e:=20 Wednesday, September 30, 1998 7:58 PM
Subject:=20 Hurricane

Hey guys & gals....
 
Just wanted to let everyone know = that I made it=20 through the hurricane.  Lost 5 tree's, some siding and = shingles.  Some=20 flooding damage but nothing major.  Just got my mail (all 100+ = messages=20 !!).  My ISP is located in Biloxi, MS so I was without service for = 4=20 days.  Anyhow, I do communicate with some of you, majority of it = off line=20 and just wanted to let you know we made it.
 
Thanks,
Brian Bream
Mobile, = AL
------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01BDECBF.02FA2AE0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 30 23:18:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA23911 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23007; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:16:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22873; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22861; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:15:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-100-103-252.ct.us.ibm.net [32.100.103.252]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA109266 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:15:56 GMT Message-ID: <3612F32E.824FCB76@ibm.net> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:12:46 -0400 From: Dave White Organization: Greene & White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Subject: [760EL] Hello Everyone! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: It's great to find a group devoted to Thinkpads. It's the 120mhz flavor with active matrix display & a 5gb hard drive. I presently have IBM's Boot Manager, Dos/Win, NT v4.0 and Linux Slackware v3.5 loaded. Good Luck, Dave White