From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 1 22:41:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA172360906; Thu, 1 May 1997 22:41:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11664; Thu, 1 May 1997 22:39:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 1 May 1997 22:34:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11252; Thu, 1 May 1997 22:34:06 -0400 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk (mail-a.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11241; Thu, 1 May 1997 22:34:00 -0400 Received: from camelot.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk (actually host dialup-4.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 2 May 1997 03:33:10 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970502033328.006a7ed4@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 03:33:28 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Thinkpad 760 Suspend & Hibernate -- Disk Locked? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu When TP760 suspends --and separately-- when TP760 hibernates, do the heads on the disk drive go to their permanent locked positions --or-- do the drive just go into low poser waiting state? The motivation for this question is to know if it is really safe to move TP760 around or even transport to distant location while in suspend or hibernate state. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 2 06:44:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA233139877; Fri, 2 May 1997 06:44:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25176; Fri, 2 May 1997 06:43:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 2 May 1997 06:40:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24995; Fri, 2 May 1997 06:40:26 -0400 Received: from mailsrv2.pcy.mci.net (mailsrv2.pcy.mci.net [204.71.1.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24979; Fri, 2 May 1997 06:40:21 -0400 Received: from usr9-dialup19.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net (usr9-dialup19.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-8 #10045) id <01IIDUXC0P408Y5CNX@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 2 May 1997 06:37:51 EDT Received: from usr9-dialup19.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net (usr9-dialup19.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-8 #10045) with SMTP id <01IIDURJKRR08Y5CN1@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 02 May 1997 06:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 06:32:25 -0400 From: Neil Ripston Subject: Still looking for TP-760 HD To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: Neil.Ripston@internetmci.com Message-Id: <3369C2B9.41CF@internetmci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Still looking to purchase a IBM direct replacement drive from an IBM 760ED. Let me know if you hve upgraded. Thanks, Neil Ripston From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 3 15:01:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA184326069; Sat, 3 May 1997 15:01:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17468; Sat, 3 May 1997 14:59:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 3 May 1997 14:56:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17310; Sat, 3 May 1997 14:56:50 -0400 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17300; Sat, 3 May 1997 14:56:45 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA358056 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 18:56:43 GMT Message-Id: <199705031856.SAA358056@out1.ibm.net> Received: from mail.royl.com(206.251.226.7) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaPaIDFW; Sat May 3 18:56:41 1997 From: "Stephen Hosmer" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 03 May 97 10:41:10 +0800 Reply-To: "Stephen Hosmer" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Stephen Hosmer's Registered PMMail 1.9 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: IR Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The reason I want to be able to use the TP as a remote control is so that I can set up a home automation system. Warp 4 let one use voice commands to perform tasks. If you wrote a little app that would record IR signals and play them back as you spoke commands to you computer, you could set up microphones in your house that would let you controll any device in the house from any room. JUST A THOUGH On Sat, 26 Apr 1997 12:31:46 -0500, Dennis Pantazis wrote: >It wouldn't surprise me if someone somewhere hasn't already done so >already, but it certainly is conceivable to script an interface to use a >laptop and its IrDa port as a remote control. The biggest issue I see is >the proper code sequences etc.... for each and every device. It would be a >novel little app, but then thinking about it why waste the resources, power >etc. ________________________________ Royale Energy Inc. (NASDAQ:ROYL) Stephen Hosmer (hosmer@royl.com) CFO From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 3 19:09:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA216590988; Sat, 3 May 1997 19:09:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03189; Sat, 3 May 1997 19:07:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 3 May 1997 19:05:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02975; Sat, 3 May 1997 19:05:31 -0400 Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02945; Sat, 3 May 1997 19:05:20 -0400 Received: from miles ([207.147.132.254]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAA21595; Sat, 3 May 1997 23:00:41 +0000 From: "Dan Miles" To: "David Ross" , Cc: Subject: Re: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 15:55:28 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970503230038.AAA21595@miles> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ---------- > From: David Ross > To: tom@act.ca > Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems > Date: Tuesday, April 29, 1997 8:37 PM > > > I can't seem to get the display right for win95 & 16 bit colour on my > > 701. It often (especially when I start a windowed MS-DOS session) > > causes blurring & a ghost effect - Everything is doubled, sideways > > about 2 cm I used to have this problem when I had win95 service pack 1 installed. I never did solve it (for this version of win95 anyway, see below), but there is a workaround for the DOS window problem. After the window is open and the screen is blurred, open the bios screen Fn-F1, then hit Esc to get back to windows. It always cleared up the problem. I currently have win95 service pack 2 installed and I haven't had the blurring problem at all. I didn't do anything special except start with a clean disk and install. Good luck. Dan Miles From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 4 12:12:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA027152341; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:12:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05042; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:11:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 4 May 1997 12:06:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04378; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:06:08 -0400 Received: from wolfenet.com (news1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04367; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:06:04 -0400 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com (sea-ts4-p44.wolfenet.com [207.178.59.94]) by wolfenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA16389 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 08:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970504082655.006b049c@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: pele@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 08:26:55 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: external modem help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks to all who responded re my request for connecting my CRT monitor to TP 701C for testing purposes. It worked! Now a similar request (again prompted by the fact that I bought the TP used and it didn't come w/full documentation, and also by the fact that I use the TP primarily as a backup device)... How do I go about bypassing the TP's built in 14.4 modem and using my external US Robotics Courier v.34 Everything (x2 enabled)? What sort of INF changes must I make, and what would I need to do to switch back to the 14.4 internal modem if I disconnect the USR? Thanks. -- Peter Lewis pele@wolfenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 4 19:38:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA133869121; Sun, 4 May 1997 19:38:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02265; Sun, 4 May 1997 19:37:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 4 May 1997 19:35:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02063; Sun, 4 May 1997 19:35:42 -0400 Received: from mercury.area54.net (michael@mercury.area54.net [207.153.85.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02025; Sun, 4 May 1997 19:35:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA05260 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 19:35:54 -0400 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 19:35:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Cummings To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Help: Best way to migrate a Win95 install to another drive?? In-Reply-To: <19970503230038.AAA21595@miles> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi.... I have just received a new drive for my 701c and am trying to mirgrate a win95 install to the new drive and have not had a lot of luck. I don't want to do a fresh install since the install on the old drive works great. Things I've tried; 1. did a microsoft backup of the old drive, stored it on another machine, did a fresh install on a "d" partion to enable me to restore the backup on "c", deleted the install on "d". nada.... 2. did above again but this time xcopied (using /s/e/f/h/r/k switches) a prior xcopied (same switches) tree that I had stored on another system (via networking). 3. some other slight varations on the above. What I hve access to to try to complete this; 1. The old drive and it's file system. 2. A microsoft backup of the old drive. 3. A full copy of the complete drive stored on another system copied using xcopy run under win95 dos box (xcopy32) with the above switches. Thanks for any input. Michael Cummings From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 4 21:53:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA168437230; Sun, 4 May 1997 21:53:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12675; Sun, 4 May 1997 21:52:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 4 May 1997 21:50:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12453; Sun, 4 May 1997 21:50:39 -0400 Received: from AST01.ligsystems.com (slip166-72-214-81.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.214.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12410; Sun, 4 May 1997 21:50:30 -0400 Received: by AST01.ligsystems.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id SAA000.65; Sun, 4 May 1997 18:50:11 -0400 Message-Id: <199705042250.SAA000.65@AST01.ligsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 04 May 97 18:44:46 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: external modem help X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <64_152_4_862785886> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Peter, Go to the "Configuration Utility" and turn off the "modem power" (page 1) then on page four go to "User Port Settings" an press Enter you can disable the modem port, this will allow you to use the modem on your serial port. I did this when my internal modem died a few months ago (it's fixed now although I miss speed of the 28.8 I was using. Lee //--- forwarded letter ------------------------------------------------------- > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) > Date: Sun, 04 May 97 08:26:55 -0700 > From: "Peter Lewis" > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: external modem help > > Thanks to all who responded re my request for connecting my CRT monitor to > TP 701C for testing purposes. It worked! > > Now a similar request (again prompted by the fact that I bought the TP used > and it didn't come w/full documentation, and also by the fact that I use > the TP primarily as a backup device)... > > How do I go about bypassing the TP's built in 14.4 modem and using my > external US Robotics Courier v.34 Everything (x2 enabled)? > > What sort of INF changes must I make, and what would I need to do to switch > back to the 14.4 internal modem if I disconnect the USR? > > Thanks. > -- > > Peter Lewis > pele@wolfenet.com > ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 5 07:55:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA025693338; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:55:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27492; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:51:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 5 May 1997 06:48:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27219; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:48:26 -0400 Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27185; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:48:17 -0400 Received: from c4rv.demon.co.uk ([158.152.168.2]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa1118735; 5 May 97 11:02 BST Message-Id: <1T$DcCACQHbzEwaz@c4rv.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 12:33:22 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: raj@c4rv.demon.co.uk From: Rajesh Varia Subject: PalmTop PC 110 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970502033328.006a7ed4@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 1.12 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anybody know if there is/will be a English version of the PalmTop PC 110. -- Rajesh Varia From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 5 10:55:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA073614127; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:55:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10534; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:40:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 5 May 1997 09:33:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09283; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:33:06 -0400 Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (mail-gw2.pacbell.net [206.13.28.53]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09272; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:32:59 -0400 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-117-144.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.117.144]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id GAA07569; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705051332.GAA07569@mail-gw2.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Cc: "Tom Franklin (Home)" Subject: FS: 810MB Thinkpad 760/75x/360 Drive $250 Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 06:35:14 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thinkpad Laptop Drive -- $250 -Thinkpad Drive PN 29H9316 -IBM (Model #DSOA-20810) 12mm drive in IBM Thinkpad 760 caddy -810MB Capacity (1575 Cyl, 16 Hd, 63 Sect) -13 ms Access Time, Mode 4 (16.6 MB/s) Transfers, 4000 RPM -Drive installed in Thinkpad 760/750/755/360 caddy -No Bad Sectors This is the drive that came in my TP760EL (Thin Model). Works great in my Thinkpad TP760EL, but I upgraded. See http://www1.ibmlink.ibm.com/HTML/SPEC/g2216022.html for more info on the drive assembly including caddy. See http://www.storage.ibm.com./storage/techsup/hddtech/dsoa/dsoatek.htm for more info on the drive inside the caddy. Price includes UPS ground shipping and COD charges to US addresses. Save $8 if you prepay. \\|||// (o) (o) =========.oOO==( )==OOo.=========== || || || Thomas D. Franklin || || mailto:tomfrank@pacbell.net || || || || .oooO Oooo. || ==========( )===( )============ \ ( ) / \_) (_/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 5 18:02:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA206769757; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:02:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06399; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:00:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 5 May 1997 17:56:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05774; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:56:16 -0400 Received: from mail.trincoll.edu (mail.cc.trincoll.edu [157.252.10.251]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05752; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:56:10 -0400 Received: from dhowery.pc.trincoll.edu by mail.trincoll.edu with SMTP (8.6.12/18-main-dsc) id RAA05294 ; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:56:09 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970505215903.006a5518@mail.trincoll.edu> X-Sender: dhowery@mail.trincoll.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 17:59:03 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: David Howery Subject: Let Me Introduce Myself Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As a new subscriber to this ThinkPad Mailing List my subscription comfirmation message asked that I introduce myself and my ThinkPad so here it is: I am Dave Howery, a biologist working at Trinity College in Hartford; I live in Granby Connecticut. I've wanted a laptop since I saw the first Toshibas in the mid 1980's but my new IBM ThinkPad 701CS is the first notebook computer I've owned. I confess; I am infatuated with the 701. I "fell in love" the first time I saw that full sized keyboard fold out of its miniature case. I may even have to name it and I've never named a computer in the 15 years I've been using them. I just bought my 701CS so it is pure stock at this time; DX4/75, 720 MB HD, 8 MB RAM running OS/2 Warp 3. I intend to add a 32 MB RAM chip soon so I can upgrade the operating system to Warp 4. The 701 has a built-in 14.4 modem but since the IBM Home and Away PCMCIA Modem/Ethernet adapter is so inexpensive now ($39.95) I am planning to pick one up so I can connect to both my home desktop machine and the network at Trinity College. I've read the FAQ but I suspect I'll ask some dumb questions as I learn my way around the 701 and mobile computing. Best Wishes, Dave ************************************************************************* David Howery | Department of Biology | Email - dhowery@trincoll.edu Trinity College | Phone - (860) 297-5189 300 Summit Street | FAX - (860) 297-2538 Hartford, CT 06106-3100 | ************************************************************************* ********************************************************************* David C. Howery | Department of Biology | Email - david.howery@mail.trincoll.edu Trinity College | Phone - (860) 297-5189 300 Summit Street | FAX - (860) 297-2538 Hartford, CT 06106-3100 | ********************************************************************* From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 5 21:15:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA266891350; Mon, 5 May 1997 21:15:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19681; Mon, 5 May 1997 21:14:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 5 May 1997 21:13:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19570; Mon, 5 May 1997 21:13:34 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19560; Mon, 5 May 1997 21:13:29 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA08017; Mon, 5 May 97 15:13:24 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA00474; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:14:18 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199705060114.PAA00474@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Help: Best way to migrate a Win95 install to another drive?? To: michael@area54.net (Michael Cummings) Date: Mon, 5 May 97 15:14:15 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "Michael Cummings" at May 4, 97 7:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There's a file called Restor95.DOC by Wesley Summers on the Windows Annoyances web site (www.creativelement.com/win95ann/) which you might find useful. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 5 22:27:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA286875627; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:27:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25760; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:26:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 5 May 1997 22:24:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25536; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:24:54 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25526; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:24:49 -0400 Received: from aston-10.execpc.com (aston-10.execpc.com [169.207.64.140]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id VAA30208; Mon, 5 May 1997 21:24:44 -0500 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: Michael Cummings Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Help: Best way to migrate a Win95 install to another drive?? Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 02:28:25 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <3375966f.287774714@mailgate.execpc.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Go to http://www.ghostsoft.com. They have a product called GHOST, which works excellent for us for cloning Win95 machines. We tried the 30-day trial and it worked fabulous. Ghost can clone to the server and back, or through two LPT ports. It also works for Win95, OS/2, and Windows NT. It copied off our 110MB Win95 setup in 3.5 minutes on our network and brings it back at the same speed. Tom Kustner Note: The company that makes it happens to be in Milwaukee, where I am. But otherwise, there's no relationship. This is the best tool I know of for cloning PCs with OS's that have long filenames. On Sun, 4 May 1997 19:35:54 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > >Hi.... > >I have just received a new drive for my 701c and am trying to mirgrate a >win95 install to the new drive and have not had a lot of luck. > >I don't want to do a fresh install since the install on the old drive=20 >works great. > >Things I've tried; > >1. did a microsoft backup of the old drive, stored it on another = machine, > did a fresh install on a "d" partion to enable me to restore the > backup on "c", deleted the install on "d". nada.... > >2. did above again but this time xcopied (using /s/e/f/h/r/k switches) a > prior xcopied (same switches) tree that I had stored on another > system (via networking). > >3. some other slight varations on the above. > >What I hve access to to try to complete this; > >1. The old drive and it's file system. >2. A microsoft backup of the old drive. >3. A full copy of the complete drive stored on another system copied = using > xcopy run under win95 dos box (xcopy32) with the above switches. > >Thanks for any input. > >Michael Cummings > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 5 22:54:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA295737253; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:54:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28069; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:53:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 5 May 1997 22:52:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27872; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:52:10 -0400 Received: from pica-emh0.pica.army.mil ([129.139.10.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27852; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:52:01 -0400 Received: by pica-emh0.pica.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:52:12 -0400 Message-Id: <01099F4A226FD011902A00A0249C6F9555972E@pica-emh1.pica.army.mil> From: "Ellis, Mark E." To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Help: Best way to migrate a Win95 install to another drive?? Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 22:52:55 -0400 X-Priority: 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I agree. Ghost is the best. -- Mark > ---------- > From: Tom Kustner[SMTP:tom.kustner@emjay.com] > Sent: Monday, May 05, 1997 10:28 PM > To: Michael Cummings > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Help: Best way to migrate a Win95 install to another > drive?? > > Go to http://www.ghostsoft.com. They have a product called GHOST, > which works excellent for us for cloning Win95 machines. We tried the > 30-day trial and it worked fabulous. Ghost can clone to the server > and back, or through two LPT ports. It also works for Win95, OS/2, > and Windows NT. It copied off our 110MB Win95 setup in 3.5 minutes on > our network and brings it back at the same speed. > > Tom Kustner > > Note: The company that makes it happens to be in Milwaukee, where I > am. But otherwise, there's no relationship. This is the best tool I > know of for cloning PCs with OS's that have long filenames. > > > > > On Sun, 4 May 1997 19:35:54 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > > > > >Hi.... > > > >I have just received a new drive for my 701c and am trying to > mirgrate a > >win95 install to the new drive and have not had a lot of luck. > > > >I don't want to do a fresh install since the install on the old drive > > >works great. > > > >Things I've tried; > > > >1. did a microsoft backup of the old drive, stored it on another > machine, > > did a fresh install on a "d" partion to enable me to restore the > > backup on "c", deleted the install on "d". nada.... > > > >2. did above again but this time xcopied (using /s/e/f/h/r/k > switches) a > > prior xcopied (same switches) tree that I had stored on another > > system (via networking). > > > >3. some other slight varations on the above. > > > >What I hve access to to try to complete this; > > > >1. The old drive and it's file system. > >2. A microsoft backup of the old drive. > >3. A full copy of the complete drive stored on another system copied > using > > xcopy run under win95 dos box (xcopy32) with the above switches. > > > >Thanks for any input. > > > >Michael Cummings > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation > System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. > Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA > Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 6 16:51:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA002451864; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:51:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10741; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:49:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 6 May 1997 16:45:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10248; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:45:55 -0400 Received: from orion.sas.upenn.edu (ORION.SAS.UPENN.EDU [165.123.26.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10229; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:45:46 -0400 Received: from 128.91.202.158 (TS11-53.UPENN.EDU [128.91.202.206]) by orion.sas.upenn.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3/SAS.03h) with SMTP id QAA09843 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <336FA821.5E03@mail.sas.upenn.edu> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 16:53:05 -0500 From: "Benjamin S. Kim" Reply-To: bkim@sas.upenn.edu Organization: University of Pennsylvania X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: possible 560 newbie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm currently a Mac PowerBook 5300c user (32/750 sys 7.5.5) and am considering moving to a ThinkPad 560. I have a few questions, though: 1. Can I use my Mac peripherals? I have a SCSI Zip drive and SCSI NEC 2v CD-ROM drive and would like to know if I can just download new Win drivers to use with them. On that note, I was wondering if anyone has had experience with Adaptec's SlimSCSI PCMCIA adapters. I also have a Mac printer and was wondering if there was anything comparable to "PowerPrint" which allows Macs to use PC printers. 2. Does the lack of a L2 cache hurt its performance severely? I'll be doing a bit of Photoshop work and would like to know if I should wait until a more powerful 560 comes around (has one been announced? any insider gossip?). 3. What kind of backup devices are people using with 560's? I'm considering getting a SCSI Travan-4 or a much cheaper parallel-port Seagate TapeStor3200 despite its slow performance. 4. What mail order retailers do people recommend? I'd like to get a 40/2.1/133mhz/12.1 TFT one for around $4300, but would buy a well-maintained used one (I've seen a couple of them hovering in the $2600 range). 5. Does NT workstation 4 work well on a 560? What have people's experiences been with trying to configure peripherals with it? Whew...well, that's all. Reply privately, if all these issues have been driven into the ground already. Thanks in advance, Ben From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 6 17:58:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA013965884; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:58:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17771; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:56:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 6 May 1997 17:54:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17493; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:54:41 -0400 Received: from emout02.mail.aol.com (emout02.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.93]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17470; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:54:32 -0400 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id RAA11118; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 17:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970506175122_-1299426252@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: srozhon@cyberdrive.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Good source for hard drives for 760ED? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sandra, Thank you for your inquiry. The largest Hard Drive I show for that system is the 2.1gb. This is because that system will only take a Slimline 12.5mm drive in height. If you are looking for more storage space, the External HDD Shell can help you out. A 3gb drive can be installed in it or your old drive can be installed in it and accessed as a D: drive for additional space. There are Parallel Port and PC Card models available. Please contact me if you have any other questions or needs. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 3GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: Good source for hard drives for 760ED? Date: 97-05-06 14:55:55 EDT From: srozhon@cyberdrive.net (Sandra Rozhon) To: PEPSales@aol.com Can you tell me if the 365XD harddrive is upgradeable? I see everyone asking about the 700 series, but never the 300 series and wondered if maybe the 1.3 gig drive is the most I can have? Thanks, Sandy From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 6 18:21:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA017347266; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:21:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20654; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:18:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 6 May 1997 18:14:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20064; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:14:43 -0400 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20054; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:14:38 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA211365 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 22:14:36 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-114.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.114) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma83ADFW; Tue May 6 22:14:14 1997 Message-Id: <336FAE50.3DEE@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 16:18:56 -0600 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Possible 560 newbie Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------20971D8E60BA" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------20971D8E60BA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Benjamin S. Kim wrote: > > I'm currently a Mac PowerBook 5300c user (32/750 sys 7.5.5) and am > considering moving to a ThinkPad 560. I have a few questions, though: Welcome into the fold! > > 1. Can I use my Mac peripherals? I have a SCSI Zip drive and SCSI NEC > 2v CD-ROM drive and would like to know if I can just download new Win > drivers to use with them. On that note, I was wondering if anyone has > had experience with Adaptec's SlimSCSI PCMCIA adapters. I also have a > Mac printer and was wondering if there was anything comparable to > "PowerPrint" which allows Macs to use PC printers. If it is SCSI and you use the Adaptec SlimSCSI PCMCIA, you will be fine. There also may be a postscript driver which your Apple printer can use (you also need to check to get the right cable ... if push comes to shove, Black Box is a good place to order ANY cables, but expensive). > 2. Does the lack of a L2 cache hurt its performance severely? I'll be > doing a bit of Photoshop work and would like to know if I should wait > until a more powerful 560 comes around (has one been announced? any > insider gossip?). Not sure on this one. It won't be the L2 cache that causes the bottle necks, IMNSHO, but the RAM itself ... if you get at least 32 or even 64, you should be fine (especially since you are doing alot of photo rendering). > 3. What kind of backup devices are people using with 560's? I'm > considering getting a SCSI Travan-4 or a much cheaper parallel-port > Seagate TapeStor3200 despite its slow performance. Travan-4 are very good! > 4. What mail order retailers do people recommend? I'd like to get a > 40/2.1/133mhz/12.1 TFT one for around $4300, but would buy a > well-maintained used one (I've seen a couple of them hovering in the > $2600 range). CDW is a pretty decent place ... also try PC Connection. > 5. Does NT workstation 4 work well on a 560? What have people's > experiences been with trying to configure peripherals with it? Works well on my 760E. Should not have any problems. > Whew...well, that's all. Reply privately, if all these issues have been > driven into the ground already. > > Thanks in advance, > Ben -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. Engineer/Author/Consultant 2 Applied Info & Mgnt Sys, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v: 801-583-8544 e: aimsllc@ibm.net / bangell@cs.utah.edu 4 -------------------------------------------------------- 5 Applied Info & Mngmnt Systems has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet, Notes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCPIP,etc), Custom (AWK-PERL-C-Visualizer), 8 Database dsgn/dev. (DB2-SQLserver-Oracle-etc.), Modeling 9 OS's (Win95;Warp/NT Server; AIX / HP-UX / SunOS; OS/400) 10 -------------------------------------------------------- 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sand- 12 wich, they would both be with us today!" --------------20971D8E60BA Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252] by mx01.ca.us.ibm.net id 862956490.55434-1 Tue May 6 22:08:10 1997 Received: from localhost (localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with internal id WAA336643; Tue, 6 May 1997 22:08:21 GMT Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 22:08:21 GMT From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Message-Id: <199705062208.WAA336643@out2.ibm.net> To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="WAA336643.862956501/out2.ibm.net" This is a MIME-encapsulated message --WAA336643.862956501/out2.ibm.net The original message was received at Tue, 6 May 1997 22:08:15 GMT >from uucp@localhost ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to cs.utk.edu.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 550 ... User unknown ----- Original message follows ----- --WAA336643.862956501/out2.ibm.net Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: aimsllc@ibm.net Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA385493; Tue, 6 May 1997 22:08:15 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-114.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.114) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smayxMDmb; Tue May 6 22:07:26 1997 Message-ID: <336FACB2.18AC@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 16:12:02 -0600 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bkim@sas.upenn.edu CC: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: possible 560 newbie References: <336FA821.5E03@mail.sas.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Benjamin S. Kim wrote: > > I'm currently a Mac PowerBook 5300c user (32/750 sys 7.5.5) and am > considering moving to a ThinkPad 560. I have a few questions, though: Welcome into the fold! > > 1. Can I use my Mac peripherals? I have a SCSI Zip drive and SCSI NEC > 2v CD-ROM drive and would like to know if I can just download new Win > drivers to use with them. On that note, I was wondering if anyone has > had experience with Adaptec's SlimSCSI PCMCIA adapters. I also have a > Mac printer and was wondering if there was anything comparable to > "PowerPrint" which allows Macs to use PC printers. If it is SCSI and you use the Adaptec SlimSCSI PCMCIA, you will be fine. There also may be a postscript driver which your Apple printer can use (you also need to check to get the right cable ... if push comes to shove, Black Box is a good place to order ANY cables, but expensive). > 2. Does the lack of a L2 cache hurt its performance severely? I'll be > doing a bit of Photoshop work and would like to know if I should wait > until a more powerful 560 comes around (has one been announced? any > insider gossip?). Not sure on this one. It won't be the L2 cache that causes the bottle necks, IMNSHO, but the RAM itself ... if you get at least 32 or even 64, you should be fine (especially since you are doing alot of photo rendering). > 3. What kind of backup devices are people using with 560's? I'm > considering getting a SCSI Travan-4 or a much cheaper parallel-port > Seagate TapeStor3200 despite its slow performance. Travan-4 are very good! > 4. What mail order retailers do people recommend? I'd like to get a > 40/2.1/133mhz/12.1 TFT one for around $4300, but would buy a > well-maintained used one (I've seen a couple of them hovering in the > $2600 range). CDW is a pretty decent place ... also try PC Connection. > 5. Does NT workstation 4 work well on a 560? What have people's > experiences been with trying to configure peripherals with it? Works well on my 760E. Should not have any problems. > Whew...well, that's all. Reply privately, if all these issues have been > driven into the ground already. > > Thanks in advance, > Ben -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. Engineer/Author/Consultant 2 Applied Info & Mgnt Sys, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v: 801-583-8544 e: aimsllc@ibm.net / bangell@cs.utah.edu 4 -------------------------------------------------------- 5 Applied Info & Mngmnt Systems has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet, Notes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCPIP,etc), Custom (AWK-PERL-C-Visualizer), 8 Database dsgn/dev. (DB2-SQLserver-Oracle-etc.), Modeling 9 OS's (Win95;Warp/NT Server; AIX / HP-UX / SunOS; OS/400) 10 -------------------------------------------------------- 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sand- 12 wich, they would both be with us today!" --WAA336643.862956501/out2.ibm.net-- --------------20971D8E60BA-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 6 19:34:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA025711694; Tue, 6 May 1997 19:34:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26608; Tue, 6 May 1997 19:33:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 6 May 1997 19:31:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26361; Tue, 6 May 1997 19:31:45 -0400 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26345; Tue, 6 May 1997 19:31:40 -0400 Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA26455 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 16:33:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: Possible 560 newbie In-Reply-To: <336FAE50.3DEE@ibm.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 6 May 1997, Bob Angell wrote: > > 2. Does the lack of a L2 cache hurt its performance severely? I'll > be > > doing a bit of Photoshop work and would like to know if I should wait > > until a more powerful 560 comes around (has one been announced? any > > insider gossip?). > Not sure on this one. It won't be the L2 cache that causes the bottle > necks, IMNSHO, but the RAM itself ... if you get at least 32 or even > 64, you should be fine (especially since you are doing alot of photo > rendering). I have a TP560-120 and it benchmarks at about an equivalent of a Pentium 90 desktop. A TP560-133 should approximately match a Pentium 100 desktop system. The TP560 comes with 8MB and can take one memory module at either 8MB, 16MB, or 32MB which gives you memory options of 8MB, 16MB, 24MB and 40MB. I bought my TP560 with 24MB installed and then upgraded it to 40MB. With my light use of Photoshop 3.05 on it I didn't notice much difference. I do most of my Photoshop work on my 64MB RAM desktop since it is a bit more capable, and that is where my scanner is.. =) Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 6 21:10:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA038347455; Tue, 6 May 1997 21:10:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03196; Tue, 6 May 1997 21:09:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 6 May 1997 21:08:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03055; Tue, 6 May 1997 21:08:25 -0400 Received: from vader.dhs.com (root@vader.dhs.com [198.69.202.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03045; Tue, 6 May 1997 21:08:19 -0400 Received: from jim.dhs.com ([198.69.202.22]) by vader.dhs.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA02007; Tue, 6 May 1997 19:00:38 -0500 Message-Id: <336FD767.DAB@cyberramp.net> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 20:14:15 -0500 From: Jim McGhee Reply-To: jmcghee@cyberramp.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Convert 760L to 760LD? References: <199705060114.PAA00474@tarski.hawaii.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I have a ThinkPad 760L that I like very much, but I can't put an internal CDROM in it because it is the 'slim' model. I was wondering if the only difference between the 760L and the 760LD is the height? If so, could I get a 760LD bottom and swap it? What else would I have to swap? I know IBM Direct will sell just the bottom. BTW, I also have a TP701 that I need a port replicator for. Anyone know a good source or have an extra one? Thanks, Jim McGhee From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 6 23:02:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA052714166; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:02:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12502; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:01:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 6 May 1997 23:00:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12332; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:00:28 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu ([128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12315; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:00:23 -0400 Received: by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA12246; Tue, 6 May 97 17:00:19 HST From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <9705070300.AA12246@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: possible 560 newbie To: bkim@sas.upenn.edu Date: Tue, 6 May 97 17:00:19 HST Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <336FA821.5E03@mail.sas.upenn.edu>; from "Benjamin S. Kim" at May 6, 97 4:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > 2. Does the lack of a L2 cache hurt its performance severely? I'll be > doing a bit of Photoshop work and would like to know if I should wait > until a more powerful 560 comes around (has one been announced? any > insider gossip?). The 560 graphics is relatively slow; this might be a function not only of the graphics chip but also of the lack of cache. (Wintune 95 reports that my P133 Micron Transport is almost 3 times as fast as the 560 for 8 bit 800x600 graphics.) Some smaller, cache-optimized software will likely also run much faster with a cache. However, these are all very fast machines; I alway find it amusing when a machine's performance is criticized in a review because it was the slowest of the machines under consideration, since it would almost surely have been the fastest machine in a similar review a few months earlier. (On the other hand, program inertia seems to be increasing as fast as CPU speed: MS Publisher 97 actually drags on this machine, and Word 97 is noticeably less zippy than was WordStar on the 4Mhz Z80 CPM machine I used to use 15 years ago.) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 04:08:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA090902520; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:08:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04934; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:07:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 04:06:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04639; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:06:10 -0400 Received: from cosmos.psc.sc.edu (cosmos.psc.sc.edu [129.252.32.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04621; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:06:04 -0400 Received: from echo.cosm.sc.edu (echo.cosm.sc.edu [129.252.40.14]) by cosmos.psc.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA13581 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:06:02 GMT Received: from localhost by echo.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id IAA00553; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:06:01 GMT Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 04:06:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Waldemar Puszkarz To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Problems with Media Player on my TP 700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, Don't really know what to think about it, but the thing is like that: Media Player refuses to work on my ancient TP 700 complaining that drivers are not installed. In fact they are, or at least the three of them that should suffice for the task: MIDI Mapper, MIDI Sequencer and MIDI Sound. This is what my Control Panel says. Does anyone know what the source of this problem may be? What should I do? I would like to give this machine to my brother and would like to enhance it by adding more good software, like the one to play midi files. I have no problems with Media Player on my 701CS which does have more drivers, but many of them are probably irrelevant for 700 whose capabilities are much more limited. Thanks in advance for any advice. Waldemar ----------------- Waldemar Puszkarz Waldemar's List: www.netservers.com/~waldemar/list.shtml From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 05:11:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA096576308; Wed, 7 May 1997 05:11:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10485; Wed, 7 May 1997 05:11:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 05:09:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10237; Wed, 7 May 1997 05:09:49 -0400 Received: from cosmos.psc.sc.edu (cosmos.psc.sc.edu [129.252.32.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10216; Wed, 7 May 1997 05:09:44 -0400 Received: from echo.cosm.sc.edu (echo.cosm.sc.edu [129.252.40.14]) by cosmos.psc.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA13639 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:09:43 GMT Received: from localhost by echo.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id JAA00589; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:09:42 GMT Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 05:09:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Waldemar Puszkarz To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Laptops safety at the airports Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, this is probably an old thread, but what is the consensus if such exists: is it really safe to expose laptops to x-rays scanners while taking them aboard of planes? What does this scanning affect in the first place? Is it a hard drive? Wouldn't it be then prudent to send a hard drive with the remaining package that, I guess (but correct me if I am wrong) is not exposed to scanners, provided the hard drive is removable. Of course, one could not use the laptop on the plane then, but that would be fine with me anyway. Your opinion on and your own experience in this matter would be highly appreciated. I am going for a longer trip to Europe and would like to have a clear idea of how to protect my TP in this situation. Thanks in advance, Waldemar ----------------- Waldemar Puszkarz Waldemar's List: www.netservers.com/~waldemar/list.shtml From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 06:23:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA103400635; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:23:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22069; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:18:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 06:17:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA21949; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:17:26 -0400 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA21939; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:17:22 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id DAA28582; Wed, 7 May 1997 03:17:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mailgate.cadence.com: smap set sender to using -f Received: from hi-av1.cadence.com(158.140.128.31) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma863000239.028576; Wed May 7 03:17:19 1997 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (sj4a-33.cadence.com [158.140.31.43]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA01308; Wed, 7 May 1997 03:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 03:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705071016.DAA01308@mailhub.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Waldemar Puszkarz From: Don Perley Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 05:09 AM 5/7/97 -0400, Waldemar Puszkarz wrote: >Hi, > >this is probably an old thread, but what is the consensus if such exists: >is it really safe to expose laptops to x-rays scanners while taking them >aboard of planes? What does this scanning affect in the first place? Is >it a hard drive? Wouldn't it be then prudent to send a hard drive with >the remaining package that, I guess (but correct me if I am wrong) is not >exposed to scanners, provided the hard drive is removable. Of course, one >could not use the laptop on the plane then, but that would be fine with >me anyway. 1) Don't count on checked or shipped packages not getting x-rayed. 2) back up your hard drive. 3) The potential for permanent damage is to the chips in your computer. The chances of a problem are slight, but the damage is cumulative. There is more reason to worry if you are flying every week. 4) In the US, at least, you can generally request hand inspection. They will make you turn the computer on. Half the time they make you take it out and turn it on even if you do send it through the scanner. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 08:58:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA117199893; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:58:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04880; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:56:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 08:53:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04390; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:53:10 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04376; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:53:02 -0400 Received: from earth (hseaman@earth [169.207.16.1]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id HAA18265; Wed, 7 May 1997 07:52:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 07:52:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Harry Seaman X-Sender: hseaman@earth To: Waldemar Puszkarz Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 7 May 1997, Waldemar Puszkarz wrote: > Hi, > > this is probably an old thread, but what is the consensus if such exists: > is it really safe to expose laptops to x-rays scanners while taking them > aboard of planes? What does this scanning affect in the first place? Is > it a hard drive? Wouldn't it be then prudent to send a hard drive with Ionizing radiation (x-rays) has no effect on magnetization (your hard and floppy disks). However, any heavy duty electronic equipment, like x-ray machines, televisions, etc., may have strong magnetic fields. Personally, I've never had any problems. good luck, harry seaman From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 10:51:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA152186707; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:51:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17029; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:49:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 10:48:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16779; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:48:26 -0400 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16754; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:48:19 -0400 Received: from axel-tp (actually rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 7 May 1997 16:33:26 +0200 Received: by axel-tp with Microsoft Mail id <01BC5B04.53BFB240@axel-tp>; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:33:00 +0200 Message-Id: <01BC5B04.53BFB240@axel-tp> From: axel hartmann To: "'bkim@sas.upenn.edu'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: possible 560 newbie Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 15:18:46 +0200 Encoding: 33 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi he who Mac-outed himself, >1. Can I use my Mac peripherals? I have a SCSI Zip drive and SCSI NEC >2v CD-ROM drive and would like to know if I can just download new Win >drivers to use with them. On that note, I was wondering if anyone has >had experience with Adaptec's SlimSCSI PCMCIA adapters. I also have a >Mac printer and was wondering if there was anything comparable to >"PowerPrint" which allows Macs to use PC printers. The SCSI-Zip should work just fine, but the installation zip-disk probably doesn't have the PC-drivers on it anymore, since they are erased once one chooses the other OS. I believe that they are available at IOmega's site; also the WinNT drivers which are pretty new. On the other hand, a SCSI-removable drive works just by plugging it in - the IOmega Tools are just needed for things like disk protection, the nifty icon under W95 (not NT!), and so on. Basic functionality works just like that. One semi-major hurdle is the cable, however. The Mac-type cable can be pretty hard to get. Definitely watch out for the right quality: I know people who are having problems with cheap cables and SCSI-Ultra controllers. It also effected their hard drives on the same chain. No problems with SCSI-Fast controllers, though. Greets, axel ...................................................................... Axel Hartmann . Paper : Blumenstr. 15; 76133 Karlsruhe; Germany . Voice : [0|xx49] 721 - 27115 . E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . ...................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 11:44:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA181899864; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:44:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18931; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:01:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 10:59:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18477; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:59:08 -0400 Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18455; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:59:01 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25058 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17474; Wed, 7 May 97 11:04:30 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA21349 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:04:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 11:04:28 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: possible 560 newbie In-Reply-To: <01BC5B04.53BFB240@axel-tp> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 7 May 1997, axel hartmann wrote: > > > >1. Can I use my Mac peripherals? I have a SCSI Zip drive and SCSI NEC > > One semi-major hurdle is the cable, however. The Mac-type cable can be > pretty hard to get. Definitely watch out for the right quality: I know I ordered a SCSI-2 to Mac 25-pin SCSI convertor from PC Connection. It fits on the end of a SCSI-2 cable and converts it to a 25-pin Mac-type SCSI. Turns out it's manufactured by Iomega. Kinda figures since they only make a 25-pin SCSI Zip drive and all the PC folks have 50-pin SCSI or SCSI-2. -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 12:40:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA217043212; Wed, 7 May 1997 12:40:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29338; Wed, 7 May 1997 12:38:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 12:33:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28594; Wed, 7 May 1997 12:33:47 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28584; Wed, 7 May 1997 12:33:42 -0400 Received: from mypc.usc.edu (comserv-d-28.usc.edu [128.125.222.100]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id JAA10578; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970506184547.006d6758@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 09:34:46 -0700 To: bkim@sas.upenn.edu From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: possible 560 newbie Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 04:53 PM 5/6/97 -0500, Benjamin S. Kim wrote: >I'm currently a Mac PowerBook 5300c user (32/750 sys 7.5.5) and am >considering moving to a ThinkPad 560. I have a few questions, though: > >1. Can I use my Mac peripherals? I have a SCSI Zip drive and SCSI NEC >2v CD-ROM drive and would like to know if I can just download new Win >drivers to use with them. On that note, I was wondering if anyone has >had experience with Adaptec's SlimSCSI PCMCIA adapters. I have an Adaptec SlimSCSI that works flawlessly with any SCSI peripheral I've used--including a couple of CD-ROM drives and a SCSI Zip you mention (I have a 560). > I also have a >Mac printer and was wondering if there was anything comparable to >"PowerPrint" which allows Macs to use PC printers. I'm not aware of it going the other way--I don't *think* you can print >from a PC to an Appletalk printer. I could be wrong though. (I've done it the other way many times--Mac to a PC printer, but even that had its shortcomings). >2. Does the lack of a L2 cache hurt its performance severely? I'll be >doing a bit of Photoshop work and would like to know if I should wait >until a more powerful 560 comes around (has one been announced? any >insider gossip?). Of course a lack of an L2 cache is going to hurt its performance compared to one that *does* have one (which the 560's don't). If performance is an issue, go get a 760 or better yet--don't use a notebook at all. The 560 is a perfectly good performer for what it is--but there's no mistaking that its primary function is a light, thin, notebook computer. Such things don't lend themselves well to speed/performance issues. >3. What kind of backup devices are people using with 560's? I'm >considering getting a SCSI Travan-4 or a much cheaper parallel-port >Seagate TapeStor3200 despite its slow performance. Get whatever you want--as long as you have a workable backup that you'll use. I use a SCSI DAT drive. >5. Does NT workstation 4 work well on a 560? What have people's >experiences been with trying to configure peripherals with it? I wouldn't do it. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 13:37:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA254956675; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:37:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04451; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:36:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 13:34:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04166; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:34:29 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04151; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:34:23 -0400 Received: from da-soocha-54.execpc.com (da-soocha-54.execpc.com [169.207.66.184]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id MAA20272 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 12:34:19 -0500 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: possible 560 newbie Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 17:38:15 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <3377bdb8.68215615@mailgate.execpc.com> References: <3.0.32.19970506184547.006d6758@scf.usc.edu> In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970506184547.006d6758@scf.usc.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu (I have a 560). > >> I also have a >>Mac printer and was wondering if there was anything comparable to >>"PowerPrint" which allows Macs to use PC printers. > > I'm not aware of it going the other way--I don't *think* you can print >from a PC to an Appletalk printer. I could be wrong though. (I've done= it >the other way many times--Mac to a PC printer, but even that had its >shortcomings). > I looked into this a few years ago for a friend. I don't remember the solution I stumbled across, but it cost $200-300, such that it just made sense to buy a PC printer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 18:15:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA139633338; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:15:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03529; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:11:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 18:09:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03214; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:09:15 -0400 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03204; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:09:11 -0400 Received: from cais.cais.com (rj@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/cais-andrew-jdf) with SMTP id SAA20602; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 18:09:07 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: "Benjamin S. Kim" Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: possible 560 newbie In-Reply-To: <336FA821.5E03@mail.sas.upenn.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 6 May 1997, Benjamin S. Kim wrote: > > 5. Does NT workstation 4 work well on a 560? What have people's > experiences been with trying to configure peripherals with it? > I can not speak for the 560 but I've got NT4.0(SP2) on a TP701/24MB RAM and it works fine, if a bit pokey. You don't get all the APM and P&P as with Win95 but it has never crashed and Win95 has; and it actually seems faster. BTW the 701 is not NT certified and I believe the 560 is. As for configuring peripherals, the only thing I could not get to work was the JAZ drive but others have (I think it was the SCSI card I was using). From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 19:10:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA177416629; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:10:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07767; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:09:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 19:06:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07514; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:06:30 -0400 Received: from r02n05.cac.psu.edu (r02a05.cac.psu.edu [146.186.15.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07504; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:06:24 -0400 Received: from 89171.hbg.psu.edu (89171.hbg.psu.edu [146.186.89.171]) by r02n05.cac.psu.edu (8.7.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA201262 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:06:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 19:06:20 -0400 Message-Id: <199705072306.TAA201262@r02n05.cac.psu.edu> X-Sender: rfm@email.psu.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Robert Munzenrider Subject: Viruses in IBM downloads Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a TP701C that came with Win3.11 which I want to upgrade to Win95. (I've been "Fixin" to" do this for 6 months now....) As a first step, I went out to the IBM site and downloaded the BIOS upgrade, and some other upgrade files - four in all. Did that 6 weeks ago or so, and they sat on my desktop system until now, when school is about finished for the term. Yesterday, I decided to download these four files onto 3.5" diskies for loading onto my TP701. But when I switched to the subdirectory where the files have been stored, my Norton AntiVirus software went bananas! It flagged all four TP701 upgrade files as having Viruses - Werewolf, I think it was. At this point, rather than letting Norton repair the files, I zapped all four files. I have two questions: 1) To whom at IBM should a warning be directed about viruses in those 701 upgrade files? 2) Is there anywhere else I can download those files so I can go upgrade to Win95 on my 701? Bob Munzenrider Penn State Harrisburg From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 19:20:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA184047213; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:20:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08569; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:18:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 19:16:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08393; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:16:36 -0400 Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08383; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:16:30 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 370fd370; Wed, 7 May 97 18:07:51 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 10:22:39 -0400 Message-Id: <370fd370@doblegate.doble.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, "Benjamin S. Kim" Subject: Re: possible 560 newbie Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.863042870" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the rest, you will have to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.863042870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Received: from [128.169.94.1] by doblegate.doble.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 36f99a10; Tue, 6 May 97 16:50:44 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10319; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:46:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 6 May 1997 16:45:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10248; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:45:55 -0400 Received: from orion.sas.upenn.edu (ORION.SAS.UPENN.EDU [165.123.26.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10229; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:45:46 -0400 Received: from 128.91.202.158 (TS11-53.UPENN.EDU [128.91.202.206]) by orion.sas.upenn.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3/SAS.03h) with SMTP id QAA09843 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <336FA821.5E03@mail.sas.upenn.edu> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 16:53:05 -0500 From: "Benjamin S. Kim" Reply-To: bkim@sas.upenn.edu Organization: University of Pennsylvania X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: possible 560 newbie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --IMA.Boundary.863042870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part >1. Can I use my Mac peripherals? I have a SCSI Zip drive and SCSI NEC >2v CD-ROM drive and would like to know if I can just download new Win >drivers to use with them. On that note, I was wondering if anyone has >had experience with Adaptec's SlimSCSI PCMCIA adapters. I also have a I use the SlimSCSI and have no problem using the Zip drive and other SCSI devices. The advantage with Adaptec is they have good driver support. You may have to get the PC formatted Zip carts or reformat the MAC ones. 3. What kind of backup devices are people using with 560's? I'm considering getting a SCSI Travan-4 or a much cheaper parallel-port Seagate TapeStor3200 despite its slow performance. Well I may be unusual. I have scsi on all my systems so I bought a used Exabyte 8200 8mm Tape Drive ($150) and put it in a external cabinet ($20). The media is cheap (5 to 10 dollars) and can hold 2.2 Gigabytes uncompressed. I can back up about 8 MB/Minute or so on the laptop. I use it on my desktop and notebook as the backup method. Early experience at work with the 2120 tapes put me off the "toy tape" drives so I went with a more "professional" system. We use the 4mm DAT stuff at work with 8mm as backup. I know it tends to be expensive but you can usually get deals on older equipment. The Exabyte 8200 is a popular workhorse 8mm drive but does not have the fast search and the storage capacity of the more expensive 8mm drives (like the Exabyte 8500). The newer 8mm drives can store 4 to 5 GB but cost in the upper hundreds of dollars. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com WB1HBU --IMA.Boundary.863042870-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 19:22:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA185467340; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:22:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09031; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:21:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 19:19:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08614; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:19:20 -0400 Received: from barney.usu.edu (barney.usu.edu [129.123.1.89]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08584; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:19:10 -0400 Received: from greg.usu.edu (152.170.68.237) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IILGSDIDQM9JH8ZM@cc.usu.edu>; Wed, 07 May 1997 17:19:01 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 17:19:25 -0600 From: Greg Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports To: Waldemar Puszkarz Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <33710DFD.F57@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Waldemar Puszkarz wrote: > > Hi, > > this is probably an old thread, but what is the consensus if such exists: > is it really safe to expose laptops to x-rays scanners while taking them > aboard of planes? What does this scanning affect in the first place? Is > it a hard drive? Wouldn't it be then prudent to send a hard drive with > the remaining package that, I guess (but correct me if I am wrong) is not > exposed to scanners, provided the hard drive is removable. Of course, one > could not use the laptop on the plane then, but that would be fine with > me anyway. > > Your opinion on and your own experience in this matter would be > highly appreciated. I am going for a longer trip to Europe and would > like to have a clear idea of how to protect my TP in this situation. > > Thanks in advance, > Waldemar > > ----------------- > Waldemar Puszkarz > Waldemar's List: www.netservers.com/~waldemar/list.shtml The problem isn't with the X-rays. Older X-ray machines had pretty large drive motors for the belt and they weren't always properly shileded, the magnetic fields from these motors were more of a problem. Some places with old outdated equipment might pose a risk, but here in the states I doubt if you have to worry about it. I've sent my laptop thru the x-ray machine countless times without any ill effects. You'd probably be better off worrying about carrying it thru the magnetometer (metal detector). BTW someplaces require you to x-ray it and hand inspect it by turning it on, so make sure you have a good battery or bring the cord. Greg Alvandian Society of Aviation Maintenance Professionals From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 20:37:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA206041874; Wed, 7 May 1997 20:37:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14576; Wed, 7 May 1997 20:36:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 20:33:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14246; Wed, 7 May 1997 20:33:56 -0400 Received: from evelyn.acs.psu.edu (evelyn.acs.psu.edu [146.186.165.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14205; Wed, 7 May 1997 20:33:45 -0400 Received: by evelyn.acs.psu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/28Jun94-0252AM) id AA07659; Wed, 7 May 1997 20:33:44 -0400 From: Brian Katz Message-Id: <9705080033.AA07659@evelyn.acs.psu.edu> Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 20:33:43 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Waldemar Puszkarz" at May 7, 97 05:09:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I cn't remember what the exact details are, but I just went through several international flights with my TP701. From what the operators of the scanners told me, the X-rays do nothing to magnetic media. THey are only a fator for high speed photographic film. On the other hand, the metal detector is very bad for them, and you should not walk through them at all with computers or floppies etc., as they ue EM wave pulses to detect the presence of metallic materials. s I just got back from these flight, my thinking isn't too clear on the Physics, but I think in a couple of days it will come back to me... -Brian : : Hi, : : this is probably an old thread, but what is the consensus if such exists: : is it really safe to expose laptops to x-rays scanners while taking them : aboard of planes? What does this scanning affect in the first place? Is : it a hard drive? Wouldn't it be then prudent to send a hard drive with : the remaining package that, I guess (but correct me if I am wrong) is not : exposed to scanners, provided the hard drive is removable. Of course, one : could not use the laptop on the plane then, but that would be fine with : me anyway. : : Your opinion on and your own experience in this matter would be : highly appreciated. I am going for a longer trip to Europe and would : like to have a clear idea of how to protect my TP in this situation. : : Thanks in advance, : Waldemar : : ----------------- : Waldemar Puszkarz : Waldemar's List: www.netservers.com/~waldemar/list.shtml : : -- Acoustics Department ................................. katz@sabine.acs.psu.edu Penn State University ..................... http://www.acs.psu.edu/users/katz/ State College, PA 16802 ................................. (814)863-9832 Office USA ..................................................... (814)865-3119 Fax From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 21:41:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA216175694; Wed, 7 May 1997 21:41:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19793; Wed, 7 May 1997 21:40:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 21:37:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19364; Wed, 7 May 1997 21:37:21 -0400 Received: from mail3.isomedia.com (mail3.isomedia.com [204.157.237.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19344; Wed, 7 May 1997 21:37:14 -0400 Received: from pentium (pm2-005.isomedia.com [206.129.160.69]) by mail3.isomedia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20211; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705080136.SAA20211@mail3.isomedia.com> From: "Bill Pratt" To: , "Robert Munzenrider" Subject: Re: Viruses in IBM downloads Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 18:35:50 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I would suspect you had the virus on your system or floppies. There is very little chance you got it from IBM. Download the IBM 701 Win/95 upgrade stuff again. Put the files on totally clean floppies...run Norton on them if you want to feel comfortable. Then follow the instruction exactly!!!!!!! You do not do the bios upgrade from the "C" drive...but rather from a clean boot from the "A" drive. After you upgrade the bios to Ver 3O, you can then do the Win/95 upgrade. There is an excellent set of instructions included with the bios upgrade. The Win/95 installation will find all of your hardware just fine. The APM works excellent. If you have other hardware attached, like PCMCIA cards, SyQuest drive, mouse, monitor, etc., have everything hooked up when you do the upgrade. I found the best install is to reformat the hard drive, and do a fresh install. This heals a lot of sins and gives you the cleanest install with the least amount of space used. You may also want to consider formatting the hard drive into two partitions. But, the upgrade of Win/3.1 works fine. You can delete Win/95 if you don't like it. I would never go back to Win/3.1. Finally, a neat little trick when installing Win/95 on a reformatted drive with the upgrade version of Win/95 is you don't have to install Win/3.1...just start the install of Win/95, and when it asks for a previous version of Windows, stick disk #1 from Win/3.0 or 3.1 or 3.11 in the "A" drive, an "brows" to that drive...presto...it loads. Good Luck Bill ---------- > From: Robert Munzenrider > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Viruses in IBM downloads > Date: Wednesday, May 07, 1997 4:06 PM > > I have a TP701C that came with Win3.11 which I want to upgrade to Win95. > (I've been "Fixin" to" do this for 6 months now....) > > As a first step, I went out to the IBM site and downloaded the BIOS upgrade, > and some other upgrade files - four in all. Did that 6 weeks ago or so, > and they sat on my desktop system until now, when school is about finished > for the term. > > Yesterday, I decided to download these four files onto 3.5" diskies for > loading onto my TP701. But when I switched to the subdirectory where the > files have been stored, my Norton AntiVirus software went bananas! It > flagged all four TP701 upgrade files as having Viruses - Werewolf, I think > it was. At this point, rather than letting Norton repair the files, I > zapped all four files. > > I have two questions: > > 1) To whom at IBM should a warning be directed about viruses in those 701 > upgrade files? > > 2) Is there anywhere else I can download those files so I can go upgrade to > Win95 on my 701? > > Bob Munzenrider > Penn State Harrisburg From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 21:50:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA217816217; Wed, 7 May 1997 21:50:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20551; Wed, 7 May 1997 21:49:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 21:47:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20362; Wed, 7 May 1997 21:47:09 -0400 Received: from cosmos.psc.sc.edu (cosmos.psc.sc.edu [129.252.32.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20352; Wed, 7 May 1997 21:47:05 -0400 Received: from eclipse.cosm.sc.edu (eclipse.cosm.sc.edu [129.252.40.16]) by cosmos.psc.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA19158 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:47:04 GMT Received: from localhost by eclipse.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id BAA00776; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:47:03 GMT Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 21:47:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Waldemar Puszkarz Cc: thinkpad Subject: Laptops safety at the airports/metal detectors In-Reply-To: <9705080033.AA07659@evelyn.acs.psu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks for all responses to my question. The consensus seems to be that X-rays pose no or minimal threat to laptops and only in the case of poorly shielded (old and mostly outdated and thus unlikely to encounter) scanners or if accumulated through a frequent scanning and thus dangerous for frequent fliers. However, there seems to be the problem with metal detectors that can affect magnetic media and are rather likely to render them useless. Thus my new question is: how to avoid passing through them? Can I request that my laptop be not subjected to this type of examination? How can I know in advance that I am approaching a metal detector? Do they inform you about it? It's not my first international trip, but I have never had a laptop with me so have not paid any attention to the things that could potentially jeopardize its functioning. This time I will and when back I will share my reflections with you. I will be changing planes several times. Thanks in advance. Waldemar P.S. When I am back, I will collect the answers to my questions concerning the safety at the airports and post them at one of my web sites so that others could use it as a FAQ type of thing. ----------------- Waldemar Puszkarz Waldemar's List: www.netservers.com/~waldemar/list.shtml From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 7 23:20:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA230941609; Wed, 7 May 1997 23:20:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27874; Wed, 7 May 1997 23:18:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 23:16:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27581; Wed, 7 May 1997 23:16:46 -0400 Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27570; Wed, 7 May 1997 23:16:41 -0400 Received: from rocky.summa4.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: rocky.summa4.com [206.67.6.1]) id QQcooz03535; Wed, 7 May 1997 23:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sherman.summa4.com ([10.254.1.9]) by rocky.summa4.com via smtpd (for relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) with SMTP; 8 May 1997 03:14:16 UT Received: from hal (root@hal.summa4.com [10.1.1.13]) by Summa4.COM (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA13845 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 23:14:12 -0400 (EDT) Sender: root@Summa4.COM Message-Id: <337145C1.450AAB4E@summa4.com> Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 23:17:21 -0400 From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports/metal detectors References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu To beat a dead horse some more: 1 - X-rays. I remember some years ago reading the letters column in Byte. Some physicists were sitting around one day, and got on the subject of X-rays vs. magnetic media, and couldn't really see any connection. Being physicists and all, however, they decided to go for empirical data. Reaching back into the thing I call a memory, I believe they zapped floppies with something on the order of 10 times a dental X-ray machine, to no ill effect. In other words, don't sweat the X-rays. 2 - Metal detectors/magnetic fields, etc. At one company I worked at, some friends of mine and I, as SysAdmins are wont to do, were sitting around, talking about data on floppies, and magnetic fields. Needless to say, we tried various things, finally ending up by putting a floppy between the outside of a cubicle, and holding it in place with (don't know if you've seen these) a "magnetic coathanger." The principle is that the coathanger has a hook on one side, attached to a magnetic plate, that you can just slap on any old metallic cubicle wall. A fairly strong magnetic field to hold one's coat, no? The result? Zero damage to data on floppy (we compared the files, byte for byte, with their originals). I guess that the magnetic fields used by floppy drives are very strong, but only in the localized area. So, in summation: of course, going through very strong magnetic fields might affect your data, but if it's not strong enough to cause your coat buttons to start to levitate, I wouldn't worry overly much about it. Ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 00:10:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA237974612; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:10:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02517; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:09:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 00:07:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02363; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:07:18 -0400 Received: from mercury.area54.net (michael@mercury.area54.net [207.153.85.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02329; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:07:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA03363 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:07:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 00:07:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Cummings To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Viruses in IBM downloads In-Reply-To: <199705080136.SAA20211@mail3.isomedia.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Take a look at http://www.us.pc.ibm.com/files.html There is a box at the top of the screen that talks about this.. > > I have a TP701C that came with Win3.11 which I want to upgrade to Win95. > > (I've been "Fixin" to" do this for 6 months now....) > > > > As a first step, I went out to the IBM site and downloaded the BIOS > upgrade, > > and some other upgrade files - four in all. Did that 6 weeks ago or so, > > and they sat on my desktop system until now, when school is about > finished > > for the term. > > > > Yesterday, I decided to download these four files onto 3.5" diskies for > > loading onto my TP701. But when I switched to the subdirectory where the > > files have been stored, my Norton AntiVirus software went bananas! It > > flagged all four TP701 upgrade files as having Viruses - Werewolf, I > think > > it was. At this point, rather than letting Norton repair the files, I > > zapped all four files. > > > > I have two questions: > > > > 1) To whom at IBM should a warning be directed about viruses in those > 701 > > upgrade files? > > > > 2) Is there anywhere else I can download those files so I can go upgrade > to > > Win95 on my 701? > > > > Bob Munzenrider > > Penn State Harrisburg > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 00:40:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA242836408; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:40:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05585; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:38:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 00:36:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05427; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:36:42 -0400 Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (0@judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05412; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:36:37 -0400 Received: from tty57.tc1.nd.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id AAA25743; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705080435.AAA25743@judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: "Gabriel Ash" To: "thinkpad" Date: Wed, 07 May 97 23:36:36 Reply-To: "Gabriel Ash" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Gabriel Ash's Registered PMMail 1.9 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As an aside. The thing most dangerous to notebooks in airports are professional notebook thiefs. Keeping it close without advertising its existence would be useful. there have been alerts in the past about thieves working in themes near the x-ray machines. ------------- Gabriel Ash Notre-Dame ------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 02:07:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA255071633; Thu, 8 May 1997 02:07:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10931; Thu, 8 May 1997 02:03:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 02:01:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10464; Thu, 8 May 1997 02:01:28 -0400 Received: from SNEEZY.USU.EDU (sneezy.usu.edu [129.123.1.87]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10453; Thu, 8 May 1997 02:01:24 -0400 Received: from greg.usu.edu (asy46.xy1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IILUUUYZ2G9I8DNP@cc.usu.edu>; Thu, 08 May 1997 00:01:45 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 00:02:22 -0600 From: Greg Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports To: Gabriel Ash Cc: thinkpad Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <33716C6E.434D@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199705080435.AAA25743@judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Gabriel Ash wrote: > > As an aside. The thing most dangerous to notebooks > in airports are professional notebook thiefs. Keeping > it close without advertising its existence would be useful. > there have been alerts in the past about thieves working > in themes near the x-ray machines. > > ------------- > Gabriel Ash > Notre-Dame > ------------- I used to do airport security, and I've asked security personnel at several airports about this. It doesn't seem to be a very common problem. Perhaps at some foreign airports but I don't know. A bigger problem is with stolen checked luggage. Look at it this way, you'd be pretty bold to steal a computer while heading into a secured area with security personnel all around. But it's probably not a good idea to leave any of your belongings unattendened once you're in the gate/terminal area. Besides being easy prey for thieves it may also be picked up by security as a suspicious item and in the worste case.. detonated by the bomb squad. Greg A. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 03:34:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA265646865; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:34:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18762; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:33:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 03:31:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18348; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:31:26 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18338; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:31:22 -0400 Received: by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA17869; Wed, 7 May 97 21:31:15 HST From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <9705080731.AA17869@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Viruses in IBM downloads To: michael@area54.net (Michael Cummings) Date: Wed, 7 May 97 21:31:14 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "Michael Cummings" at May 8, 97 12:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Take a look at http://www.us.pc.ibm.com/files.html For those who didn't surf there, Norton AV apparently flags lots of perfectly OK IBM files as infected. I wonder whether the next version of IBM AV will similarly flag Symantec software:-) BTW, one of the machines my wife manages recently came down with one of the older boot-sector viruses (whose name I can't recall). This machine had IBM AV installed and in monitor mode! This shook my faith in this and all such programs. (BTW, this virus compromised quite a lot of medical research data, and was only discovered by accident. Otherwise, that data would have been used in documenting effectiveness of some hospital intensive care procedures. I wonder how much medical research nowadays suffers from such viruses. Until this incident it never occurred to me that these virus writers might actually be killing people!) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 11:16:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA020734617; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:16:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01877; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:12:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 11:08:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01328; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:08:45 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01317; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:08:41 -0400 Received: from earth (hseaman@earth [169.207.16.1]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id KAA12556; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:07:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 10:07:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Harry Seaman X-Sender: hseaman@earth To: Gabriel Ash Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports In-Reply-To: <199705080435.AAA25743@judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 7 May 1997, Gabriel Ash wrote: > > As an aside. The thing most dangerous to notebooks > in airports are professional notebook thiefs. Keeping > it close without advertising its existence would be useful. > there have been alerts in the past about thieves working > in themes near the x-ray machines. Good advice. To elaborate, here's how it works. You put your notebook on the conveyor belt. You get in line to go through the metal detector, but the guy in front of you (an accomplice to the thief) keeps setting off the alarm. You are stuck behind him while the other member of the team grabs your notebook and runs. Be ware! Harry Seaman From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 11:30:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA022835430; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:30:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03535; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:26:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 11:24:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03316; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:24:39 -0400 Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03304; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:24:35 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA21881 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28284; Thu, 8 May 97 11:29:56 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA23006 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:29:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:29:55 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: thinkpad Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 8 May 1997, Harry Seaman wrote: > On Wed, 7 May 1997, Gabriel Ash wrote: > > > there have been alerts in the past about thieves working > > in themes near the x-ray machines. > > Good advice. To elaborate, here's how it works. You put your notebook on > the conveyor belt. You get in line to go through the metal detector, but > the guy in front of you (an accomplice to the thief) keeps setting off the > alarm. You are stuck behind him while the other member of the team grabs > your notebook and runs. I heard this was an urban legend, and that nobody has actually been able to find a documented case of this occurring. Does anyone know? Most airports (international AND domestic) won't let you walk through the metal detectors nowadays unless you have a ticket. It seems an awful lot of work and risk to forge/buy two tickets just to get a shot at stealing a laptop from right in front of a bunch of security guards, where the only escape route (other than getting on a plane, for which the thief must buy a real ticket) is back past the same security guards. -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 11:48:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA025836524; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:48:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06321; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:47:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 11:44:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05755; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:44:49 -0400 Received: from calcium.noc.interop.net (calcium.noc.interop.net [45.0.12.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05733; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:44:43 -0400 Received: from ssh (ssh-45.noc.interop.net [45.0.15.45]) by calcium.noc.interop.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18659; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3371F550.38440262@wwsi.com> Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 09:46:24 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: John Kim Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu John Kim wrote: > Most airports (international AND domestic) won't let you walk > through the metal detectors nowadays unless you have a ticket. You and I must travel in completely different places. In the past year, I've put in about 80k air miles in the US, France, Germany, and Japan. Except for international terminals that check passports before security, I have *never* been asked for my ticket before going through security. That said, the first alert I saw was actually from the security teams at either SFO or SJC (I don't remember which). It was also recently featured on one of the news programs on television (which I caught in a hotel fairly recently). That doesn't mean that it's not urban legend, but I think it has some level of validity. However, I suspect that the publicity has pretty much squashed the effectiveness. I still keep my eyes on my bags, and actually arrange them on the belt in a way that allows me to be sure that I can see the notebook case when it emerges. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 12:03:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA027727396; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:03:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08205; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:02:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 11:59:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07802; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:59:51 -0400 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07773; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:59:44 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id IAA06601; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:59:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mailgate.cadence.com: smap set sender to using -f Received: from hi-av1.cadence.com(158.140.128.31) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma863107179.006597; Thu May 8 08:59:39 1997 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (sj4a-28.cadence.com [158.140.31.38]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA03612; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 08:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705081558.IAA03612@mailhub.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: John Kim From: Don Perley Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports Cc: thinkpad Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:29 AM 5/8/97 -0400, John Kim wrote: > >Most airports (international AND domestic) won't let you walk >through the metal detectors nowadays unless you have a ticket. I've probably taken over 50 flights in the last year, covering maybe 8 airports. Only once, on a foriegn airline's terminal, have I needed a ticket to get in the gate area. >It seems an awful lot of work and risk to forge/buy two tickets >just to get a shot at stealing a laptop from right in front of >a bunch of security guards, where the only escape route (other >than getting on a plane, for which the thief must buy a real >ticket) is back past the same security guards. Big city airports (ie chicago, washington) have multiple exits >from the gate areas. Most computer cases are pretty anonymous looking, and in a team effort the guy taking it out won't be the same guy who stole it. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 13:34:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA043762892; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:34:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18076; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:28:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 13:25:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17684; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:25:33 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17649; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:25:24 -0400 Received: from mypc.usc.edu (comserv-e-69.usc.edu [128.125.222.213]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id KAA01517; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970508101024.01515aac@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 10:26:50 -0700 To: John Kim From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports Cc: thinkpad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:29 AM 5/8/97 -0400, John Kim wrote: >> Good advice. To elaborate, here's how it works. You put your notebook on >> the conveyor belt. You get in line to go through the metal detector, but >> the guy in front of you (an accomplice to the thief) keeps setting off the >> alarm. You are stuck behind him while the other member of the team grabs >> your notebook and runs. > >I heard this was an urban legend, and that nobody has actually >been able to find a documented case of this occurring. Does >anyone know? Baloney--I saw this thing being done on one of those investigative reports on TV (I don't recall which--I think it was Dateline NBC, but it could have been 20/20). Its done alright--not a U.L. Its really a variation on the car insurance scam where you get trapped into an accident and then sued. >Most airports (international AND domestic) won't let you walk >through the metal detectors nowadays unless you have a ticket. That's not the case at *all*. Keep in mind that you have to go through the metal detectors to get to any & all terminals--and that friends & family frequently go through those detectors to see people off or greet them as they get off the plane. I'd venture to say that *far* more people go through the metal detectors that are not ticketed passengers than those that are. Maybe I'm just not flying a lot, but I've never been in an airport where a ticket was required to go through the detectors. In the recent past, I've flown through Los Angeles, Burbank, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, Chicago, Washington D.C. (Dulles), Hartford, Atlanta, Charleston, and San Jose. I'd be curious as to which airports required the plane tickets to get to the terminal. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 14:31:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA053616311; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:31:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24354; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:28:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 14:25:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23869; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:25:27 -0400 Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23681; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:24:58 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA20776; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29967; Thu, 8 May 97 14:30:20 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA23589; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:30:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 14:30:19 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: Randal Whittle Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970508101024.01515aac@scf.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 8 May 1997, Randal Whittle wrote: > >I heard this was an urban legend, and that nobody has actually > >been able to find a documented case of this occurring. Does > >anyone know? > > Baloney--I saw this thing being done on one of those investigative > reports on TV (I don't recall which--I think it was Dateline NBC, but it > could have been 20/20). Its done alright--not a U.L. Thanks, Randy. > >Most airports (international AND domestic) won't let you walk > >through the metal detectors nowadays unless you have a ticket. > > That's not the case at *all*. Keep in mind that you have to go through > the metal detectors to get to any & all terminals--and that friends & > family frequently go through those detectors to see people off or greet > them as they get off the plane. After talking with a couple people, it seems only the airports I frequent are this strict. Boston, the international terminal at LAX (I usually fly domestic out of ONT, not LAX), I think Detroit, and of all places Champaign, IL check for tickets. They're all pretty strict about it. They won't let you in to greet or see people off. Except for Ontario, I haven't been able to go to a gate without a ticket for several years. I always figured Ontario was lax becuase it was so small. Just my luck getting stuck with the "secure" airports. I don't even use a laptop carrying case... -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 14:42:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA056096959; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:42:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24893; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:31:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 14:28:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24252; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:28:06 -0400 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (CNRI.Reston.VA.US [132.151.1.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24236; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:28:00 -0400 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa14334; 8 May 97 14:24 EDT Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA05196; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:20:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 14:20:44 -0400 Message-Id: <199705081820.OAA05196@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dan Miles To: David Ross , tom@act.ca Mmdf-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at CNRI.Reston.VA.US Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mmdf-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at CNRI.Reston.VA.US Subject: Re: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US X-Mailer: VM 6.29 / 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dan Miles on Sat, May 3 wrote: > > From: David Ross > > To: tom@act.ca > > Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Re: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems > > Date: Tuesday, April 29, 1997 8:37 PM > > > > > I can't seem to get the display right for win95 & 16 bit colour on my > > > 701. It often (especially when I start a windowed MS-DOS session) > > > causes blurring & a ghost effect - Everything is doubled, sideways > > > about 2 cm > > [...] > > I used to have this problem when I had win95 service pack 1 installed. I > never did solve it (for this version of win95 anyway, see below), but there > is a workaround for the DOS window problem. After the window is open and > the screen is blurred, open the bios screen Fn-F1, then hit Esc to get back > to windows. It always cleared up the problem. > > [and service pack 2 seems to have fixed the problem.] I have to try Win95 service pack 2 (didn't know win 95 *had* service packs!), but i've always worked around the problem by hitting Ctrl-ENTER twice - expanding the dos window to full screen and then back. Something about setting the mode back rectifies the display aberration. Ken Manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us 703 620-8990 x268 (orporation for National Research |nitiatives # If you appreciate Python, consider joining the PSA! # # . # From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 14:44:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA056337095; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:44:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26601; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:42:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 14:40:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26173; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:39:59 -0400 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (CNRI.Reston.VA.US [132.151.1.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26132; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:39:49 -0400 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa14773; 8 May 97 14:43 EDT Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA05200; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:39:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 14:39:16 -0400 Message-Id: <199705081839.OAA05200@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> From: Ken Manheimer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: bkim@sas.upenn.edu Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List , Bob Angell Subject: Recordable CD (CD-R) as backup devices? X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US X-Mailer: VM 6.29 / 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Bob Angell wrote: > Benjamin S. Kim wrote: > > [...] > > 3. What kind of backup devices are people using with 560's? I'm > > considering getting a SCSI Travan-4 or a much cheaper parallel-port > > Seagate TapeStor3200 despite its slow performance. > > Travan-4 are very good! Is anyone else thinking about basing their backup strategies on write-once CD ROM drives? I'm planning on it, but have been holding out for the price of 4x write CD-R (record once) cd drives to come down enough. Though 650 MB isn't huge - nowhere near travan TR-4 4GB - the media is so convenient! I envision copying the image of the installed OS on one CD, then cumulative incrementals of changes and addons on others. Gives you the ability to read the backups random-access on any CD ROM drive (once the incrementals packet-written sessions are closed), a not trivial benefit. Plus the media is *cheap* - it's supposed to be the least expensive option around, at this point. (I would be doing all this on my desktop PC, but there are external CD-R drives available that could be hooked up with a SCSI port on a TP.) > > 4. What mail order retailers do people recommend? I'd like to get a > > 40/2.1/133mhz/12.1 TFT one for around $4300, but would buy a > > well-maintained used one (I've seen a couple of them hovering in the > > $2600 range). > > CDW is a pretty decent place ... also try PC Connection. I've been very happy with Necx Direct - http://necxdirect.necx.com. Their prices seem as good as any of the the others that people have mentioned, and i love the ability to find items and details about the items. Ken Manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us 703 620-8990 x268 (orporation for National Research |nitiatives # If you appreciate Python, consider joining the PSA! # # . # From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 15:15:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA061678908; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:15:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00662; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:12:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 15:10:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00288; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:10:32 -0400 Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00269; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:10:27 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA27011; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00617; Thu, 8 May 97 15:15:53 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA23751; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:15:50 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:15:50 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle Reply-To: John Kim To: Ken Manheimer Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Recordable CD (CD-R) as backup devices? In-Reply-To: <199705081839.OAA05200@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 8 May 1997, Ken Manheimer wrote: > Bob Angell wrote: > > Benjamin S. Kim wrote: > > > [...] > > > 3. What kind of backup devices are people using with 560's? I'm > > > > Travan-4 are very good! > > Is anyone else thinking about basing their backup strategies on > write-once CD ROM drives? I'm planning on it, but have been holding > out for the price of 4x write CD-R (record once) cd drives to come > down enough. > > Though 650 MB isn't huge - nowhere near travan TR-4 4GB - the media is > so convenient! I envision copying the image of the installed OS on At work, we've got both DAT drives and CD-Rs, and you're right about the the CDs being more convenient. Another not-so-trivial benefit is the ability to mix your own audio and Photo CDs. Put 70 minutes of your favorite songs on one CD and play that in your car, instead of ejecting and inserting a half dozen different CDs while driving. > Plus the media is *cheap* It's about $5/disk right now, or less than 1 cent/meg. > (I would be doing all this on my desktop PC, but there are external > CD-R drives available that could be hooked up with a SCSI port on a > TP.) What I've heard is that because the CD-R writes in one continuous track (like the old phonograph grooves), the PC *must* be able to pump data to the drive without fail. Don't try to multitask when it's running, and SCSI is best. Also, I don't know if a PCMCIA SCSI port would be up to handling a 4x CD-R (650MB/17min = just over half a MB/sec, and remember your PC needs time to read the data too), and any APM BIOS functions could jeopordize the process. -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 15:27:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA064269624; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:27:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01994; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:24:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 15:21:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01706; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:21:56 -0400 Received: from AST01.ligsystems.com (slip166-72-214-125.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.214.125]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01693; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:21:47 -0400 Received: by AST01.ligsystems.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id MAA002.27; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:21:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199705081621.MAA002.27@AST01.ligsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 08 May 97 12:15:29 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <226_143_4_863108129> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > At 11:29 AM 5/8/97 -0400, John Kim wrote: > >> Good advice. To elaborate, here's how it works. You put your notebook on > >> the conveyor belt. You get in line to go through the metal detector, but > >> the guy in front of you (an accomplice to the thief) keeps setting off the > >> alarm. You are stuck behind him while the other member of the team grabs > >> your notebook and runs. > > > >I heard this was an urban legend, and that nobody has actually > >been able to find a documented case of this occurring. Does > >anyone know? > > Baloney--I saw this thing being done on one of those investigative reports > on TV (I don't recall which--I think it was Dateline NBC, but it could have > been 20/20). Its done alright--not a U.L. > The show (at least one of them) was 20/20. While they mentioned laptop computers they also stated that all sorts of carry on bags were being stolen this way. This is actually one good reason to ask for a hand inspection of your laptop. I do this and then ask the security to keep an eye on it (they usually hold it) while I go through the magnet. I think that people who want to steal laptops know what most laptop cases look like. I bought a Port case for my 701C and it came with a nice ThinkPad luggage tag. After a few trips I realized that it was like painting "ThinkPad steal me" on the side of the case. so now I use the tag on my garment bag or suitcase. Lee ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 17:49:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA092098160; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:49:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18443; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:47:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 17:43:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17857; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:43:52 -0400 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (CNRI.Reston.VA.US [132.151.1.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17838; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:43:45 -0400 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa19556; 8 May 97 17:39 EDT Received: from localhost by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA05755; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:36:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:36:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Manheimer X-Sender: klm@glyph Reply-To: klm@python.org To: John Kim Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Recordable CD (CD-R) as backup devices? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 8 May 1997, John Kim wrote: > > Is anyone else thinking about basing their backup strategies on > > write-once CD ROM drives? I'm planning on it, but have been holding > > out for the price of 4x write CD-R (record once) cd drives to come > > down enough. > > > > Though 650 MB isn't huge - nowhere near travan TR-4 4GB - the media is > > so convenient! I envision copying the image of the installed OS on > > At work, we've got both DAT drives and CD-Rs, and you're right > about the the CDs being more convenient. Another not-so-trivial > benefit is the ability to mix your own audio and Photo CDs. Put > 70 minutes of your favorite songs on one CD and play that in > your car, instead of ejecting and inserting a half dozen > different CDs while driving. (As a matter of fact, i'm very eager to record some of the vinyl albums i love, which would never otherwise appear in CD format. I even plan to splurge on a nice, low noise-floor digitizer, to produce good copies. When it comes to the audio considerations, "buffer underflow" becomes a danger, so your cautions about fast processor/bus become even more important.) > > (I would be doing all this on my desktop PC, but there are external > > CD-R drives available that could be hooked up with a SCSI port on a > > TP.) > > What I've heard is that because the CD-R writes in one > continuous track (like the old phonograph grooves), the PC > *must* be able to pump data to the drive without fail. Don't Actually, i gather the situation is a bit more complicated than this. It's become a regular thing to write CD-R data in smaller than whole-disk chunks, though some space is wasted closing and reopening "sessions". Even there, packet writing enables session continuation with no or at least less waste. And sony's "Direct CD" innovations make it easy to treat the CD-R as a sort of regular disk, though slow and without space freed up. I'm not sure whether buffer underflow issues obtain generally or just for sensitive situations, like writing continguous audio tracks - but i would investigate carefully before considering running one of these things from any TP. It is stil fairly new for non-specialized use... Ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 18:29:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA100450591; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:29:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22368; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:26:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 18:23:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22015; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:23:56 -0400 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22003; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:23:48 -0400 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01129 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:23:42 +1000 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) id IAA18589; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:23:41 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 08:23:29 +1000 (EST) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > > > As an aside. The thing most dangerous to notebooks > > in airports are professional notebook thiefs. Keeping > > it close without advertising its existence would be useful. > > there have been alerts in the past about thieves working > > in themes near the x-ray machines. > > Good advice. To elaborate, here's how it works. You put your notebook on > the conveyor belt. You get in line to go through the metal detector, but > the guy in front of you (an accomplice to the thief) keeps setting off the > alarm. You are stuck behind him while the other member of the team grabs > your notebook and runs. > Be ware! > no, he doesn't run, he walks - and probably after putting your very-obviously- a-laptop-carry-case into a larger carry bag, that's not so obviously holding a laptop. there are other ways this is done of course. if you are looking for something to worry about at airports, how about what's been packaged inside the laptop that hasn't been thoroughly checked and is coming onto the flight you are on? regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 18:35:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA101870938; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:35:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23135; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:33:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 18:31:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23003; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:31:53 -0400 Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk (mercury.ukc.ac.uk [129.12.21.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22987; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:31:46 -0400 Received: from stork.ukc.ac.uk by mercury.ukc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 8 May 1997 23:31:30 +0100 Received: from slip1d81.ukc.ac.uk by stork.ukc.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/UKC-2.14) id XAA15746; Thu, 8 May 1997 23:31:27 +0100 Message-Id: <336BBC5E.2390@ukc.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 23:29:50 +0100 From: Angus Reply-To: afh1@ukc.ac.uk Organization: blah X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 Followup-To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu To: Alden S Klovdahl Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Alden S Klovdahl wrote: > if you are looking for something to worry about at airports, how about what's > been packaged inside the laptop that hasn't been thoroughly checked and is > coming onto the flight you are on? > > regards, al Yeah - I've always thought the hard drive bays on the "flip keyboard" Thinkpads (755s and others) would be a good place to hide that Swiss watch you didn't want Customs to know about... Regards, Angus From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 18:40:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA102561252; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:40:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23752; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:38:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 18:36:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23568; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:36:49 -0400 Received: from vader.dhs.com (root@vader.dhs.com [198.69.202.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23556; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:36:41 -0400 Received: from jim.dhs.com ([198.69.202.22]) by vader.dhs.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA04723; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:30:05 -0500 Message-Id: <337256E1.6D3B@cyberramp.net> Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 17:42:41 -0500 From: Jim McGhee Reply-To: jmcghee@cyberramp.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Recordable CD (CD-R) as backup devices? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu When recording CDR, its not so much a need for high speed as a need that the data flow not be interupted. If you're planning to record CDs then check out the Adaptec CDR page http://www.adaptec.com/support/cdrec/faqindex.html#services They also have a mailing list and a mailing list archive with lots of info about recording vinyl (would you believe water on the vinyl when recording). BTW, one of the nice things about archiving to CDR is that you will have a good chance of still having a CDRom reader on your system that will read it in 3 years. Tape media seems to become obsolete so quickly. Enjoy, Jim McGhee Ken Manheimer wrote: > > On Thu, 8 May 1997, John Kim wrote: > > > > Is anyone else thinking about basing their backup strategies on > > > write-once CD ROM drives? I'm planning on it, but have been holding > > > out for the price of 4x write CD-R (record once) cd drives to come > > > down enough. > > > > > > Though 650 MB isn't huge - nowhere near travan TR-4 4GB - the media is > > > so convenient! I envision copying the image of the installed OS on > > > > At work, we've got both DAT drives and CD-Rs, and you're right > > about the the CDs being more convenient. Another not-so-trivial > > benefit is the ability to mix your own audio and Photo CDs. Put > > 70 minutes of your favorite songs on one CD and play that in > > your car, instead of ejecting and inserting a half dozen > > different CDs while driving. > > (As a matter of fact, i'm very eager to record some of the vinyl albums > i love, which would never otherwise appear in CD format. I even plan to > splurge on a nice, low noise-floor digitizer, to produce good copies. > When it comes to the audio considerations, "buffer underflow" becomes a From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 20:25:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA129097528; Thu, 8 May 1997 20:25:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03378; Thu, 8 May 1997 20:24:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 20:21:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03065; Thu, 8 May 1997 20:21:00 -0400 Received: from calcium.noc.interop.net (calcium.noc.interop.net [45.0.12.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03052; Thu, 8 May 1997 20:20:53 -0400 Received: from ssh (ssh-45.noc.interop.net [45.0.15.45]) by calcium.noc.interop.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24151 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <33726E4D.2AA25210@wwsi.com> Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 18:22:37 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760Xs? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <33660753.9AE5D70F@wwsi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, I have my 760XD. I've loaded NT on it, and it's wonderful! The new keyboard is more like the old 755 than the newer 760Es to my fingers, and I like that. The machine is quite fast (even running NT in 32MB of memory, which is the default configuration). I've ordered a 64MB memory module, so this should scream at 96M. If you have any questions, let me know. I'm hoping to load Linux on it, too, but think I need an additional disk to do that (I want to keep the Win95 disk as Win95 for a while). -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 20:32:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA130977968; Thu, 8 May 1997 20:32:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04333; Thu, 8 May 1997 20:31:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 20:29:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04032; Thu, 8 May 1997 20:29:14 -0400 Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04020; Thu, 8 May 1997 20:29:09 -0400 Received: from csis2.ee.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa01525; 8 May 97 16:14 EDT Received: (from cyj9h@localhost) by csis2.ee.Virginia.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.6) id QAA14610 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:14:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Charles Y. Choi" Message-Id: <199705082014.QAA14610@csis2.ee.Virginia.EDU> Subject: Re: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems (fwd) To: Thinkpad Mailing List Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:14:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dan Miles replies: >> >> I have to try Win95 service pack 2 (didn't know win 95 *had* service >> packs!), but i've always worked around the problem by hitting >> Ctrl-ENTER twice - expanding the dos window to full screen and then >> back. Something about setting the mode back rectifies the display >> aberration. >> Having to deal with this problem is a tremendous pain. Thankfully, this may not be a pain anymore - I just downloaded the latest Win 95 driver for the 65545 video chip in the 701. Check out www.chips.com So far it's been working fine ... -charles From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 8 22:07:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA157453630; Thu, 8 May 1997 22:07:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12775; Thu, 8 May 1997 22:06:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 8 May 1997 22:02:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12294; Thu, 8 May 1997 22:02:23 -0400 Received: from AST01.ligsystems.com (slip166-72-214-98.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.214.98]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12276; Thu, 8 May 1997 22:02:15 -0400 Received: by AST01.ligsystems.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id TAA002.39; Thu, 8 May 1997 19:02:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199705082302.TAA002.39@AST01.ligsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 08 May 97 18:55:31 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: Laptops safety at the airports X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <238_146_4_863132131> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > After talking with a couple people, it seems only the airports > I frequent are this strict. Boston, the international terminal > at LAX (I usually fly domestic out of ONT, not LAX), Interesting, this could have changed since I was last in the International Terminal (the Bradley Terminal) at LAX, that was last summer seeing my GF off for the Netherlands. I got all the way to the gate where we waited for her plane to be ready for boarding. Where I couldn't go without a ticket was into the Duty Free shop where we were going to pick out a gift for our friends she was visting. The Duty Free people have really good security. My apologies, I know this is off topic. Lee ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 9 01:14:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA212784887; Fri, 9 May 1997 01:14:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27262; Fri, 9 May 1997 01:13:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 9 May 1997 01:11:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27150; Fri, 9 May 1997 01:11:18 -0400 Received: from wolfenet.com (news1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27140; Fri, 9 May 1997 01:11:14 -0400 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com (sea-ts4-p71.wolfenet.com [207.178.59.121]) by wolfenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA30733; Thu, 8 May 1997 22:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970508221121.006c9c2c@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: pele@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 22:11:21 -0700 To: "Charles Y. Choi" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: Re: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199705082014.QAA14610@csis2.ee.Virginia.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 04:14 PM 5/8/97 -0400, you wrote: >Dan Miles replies: >>> >>> I have to try Win95 service pack 2 (didn't know win 95 *had* service >>> packs!), but i've always worked around the problem by hitting >>> Ctrl-ENTER twice - expanding the dos window to full screen and then >>> back. Something about setting the mode back rectifies the display >>> aberration. >>> > >Having to deal with this problem is a tremendous pain. Thankfully, >this may not be a pain anymore - I just downloaded the latest Win 95 >driver for the 65545 video chip in the 701. > >Check out www.chips.com > >So far it's been working fine ... > >-charles > Questions about your post: Is the 65545 video chip in the 701 standard issue? In other words, is the latest Win95 driver you alluded to one that _all_ 701 owners running Win95 could/should install? Does it matter if it's 701c or 701cs? You're talking about file name WIN95141.ZIP dated 3/25/97, size 75K, DirectX 3.0, correct? Is this driver also available/recommended at an IBM site? Given past headache/heartache with video issues on other computers, and the fact that I'm having no display problems w/my TP701c, I am loathe to mess with video unless it's a sure thing, or darn near. Thanks. -- Peter Lewis pele@wolfenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 9 03:56:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA268804595; Fri, 9 May 1997 03:56:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09428; Fri, 9 May 1997 03:55:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 9 May 1997 03:54:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09212; Fri, 9 May 1997 03:54:01 -0400 Received: from devil.prz.tu-berlin.de (michey@devil.prz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.62.214]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09202; Fri, 9 May 1997 03:53:56 -0400 Received: from localhost (michey@localhost) by devil.prz.tu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA22225; Fri, 9 May 1997 11:50:41 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: devil.prz.tu-berlin.de: michey owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 11:50:41 +0200 (MEST) From: Michael Eyrich To: John Kim Cc: Ken Manheimer , ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Recordable CD (CD-R) as backup devices? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 8 May 1997, John Kim wrote: | What I've heard is that because the CD-R writes in one | continuous track (like the old phonograph grooves), the PC | *must* be able to pump data to the drive without fail. Don't | try to multitask when it's running, and SCSI is best. Also, I ********* This really depends on your operating system! Real multitasking/multiuser systems do not have any problem with it. M. Eyrich michey@prz.tu-berlin.de | don't know if a PCMCIA SCSI port would be up to handling a 4x | CD-R (650MB/17min = just over half a MB/sec, and remember your | PC needs time to read the data too), and any APM BIOS functions | could jeopordize the process. | -- | John H. Kim | kim@mak.com | | | | | From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 9 05:42:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA293800940; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:42:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA23888; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:41:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 9 May 1997 05:40:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA23612; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:40:28 -0400 Received: from romulus.hosteng.org (ivarh@romulus.hosteng.org [195.0.205.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA23592; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:40:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (ivarh@localhost) by romulus.hosteng.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA12363 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 11:38:52 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 11:38:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Ivar E. H\xsteng" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Recordable CD (CD-R) as backup devices? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 9 May 1997, Michael Eyrich wrote: > > On Thu, 8 May 1997, John Kim wrote: > > | What I've heard is that because the CD-R writes in one > | continuous track (like the old phonograph grooves), the PC > | *must* be able to pump data to the drive without fail. Don't > | try to multitask when it's running, and SCSI is best. Also, I > ********* > This really depends on your operating system! > Real multitasking/multiuser systems do not have any problem > with it. > I second that, I am using cdwrite to write CDroms under linux. One time I forgot to stop my UUCP newsfeed, and I got about 6 MB compressed news deliverd to my system while writing a CD. When inn started reading the news I was shure the CD was gone, but it had no influence on the cdwriting. I have had a Screensaver doing more harm to a cdwriting session under Windwows 95 than linux ever have given me.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 9 11:12:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA096710735; Fri, 9 May 1997 11:12:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22052; Fri, 9 May 1997 11:10:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 9 May 1997 11:08:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21647; Fri, 9 May 1997 11:08:18 -0400 Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21623; Fri, 9 May 1997 11:08:12 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 3733cde0; Fri, 9 May 97 11:03:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 11:04:06 -0400 Message-Id: <3733cde0@doblegate.doble.com> To: "'bkim@sas.upenn.edu'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" , axel hartmann Subject: Re[2]: possible 560 newbie Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.863190238" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the rest, you will have to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.863190238 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part >One semi-major hurdle is the cable, however. The Mac-type cable can be >pretty hard to get. Definitely watch out for the right quality: I know Greets, One neat thing that came out perhaps in the last 3 months or so is a SCSI-1 Female to DB-25 male adapter (i.e. not a cable). I use it to hook the ZIP drive up to the Adaptec Slim SCSI. It works well and I do not have to carry around a SCSI-1 Male to DB-25 Male cable and a SCSI-1 Female to SCSI-1 Female adapter anymore. It might be a tight fit to get another cable on the other DB-25 scsi connector but I can use another setup if required. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com WB1HBU --IMA.Boundary.863190238 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Received: from [128.169.94.1] by doblegate.doble.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 37231710; Thu, 8 May 97 16:03:00 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16809; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:48:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 7 May 1997 10:48:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16779; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:48:26 -0400 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16754; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:48:19 -0400 Received: from axel-tp (actually rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) by nz11.rz.uni-karl sruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 7 May 1997 16:33:26 +0200 Received: by axel-tp with Microsoft Mail id <01BC5B04.53BFB240@axel-tp>; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:33:00 +0200 Message-ID: <01BC5B04.53BFB240@axel-tp> From: axel hartmann To: "'bkim@sas.upenn.edu'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: possible 560 newbie Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 15:18:46 +0200 Encoding: 33 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --IMA.Boundary.863190238-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 9 13:38:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA221099477; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:37:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06517; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:32:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 9 May 1997 13:29:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06053; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:29:29 -0400 Received: from megspo.megsinet.net (megspo.megsinet.net [208.150.60.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06041; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:29:17 -0400 Received: from randolphmax1-105.megsinet.net ([208.133.78.105]) by megspo.megsinet.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11704) with SMTP id AAA134; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:27:09 -0500 Received: by randolphmax1-105.megsinet.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC5C74.3AC6CC80@randolphmax1-105.megsinet.net>; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:26:33 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC5C74.3AC6CC80@randolphmax1-105.megsinet.net> From: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) To: "'Daniel Helfrich'" Cc: "'tp'" Subject: RE: IR Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 08:43:33 -0500 Encoding: 810 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:31 PM 4/26/97 -0500, you wrote: >.....Set the program in receive mode, hold the >remote near and inline with the IrDa port and start pressing buttons. They >should show up as random character strings in the terminal window. After I turned on the IrDA interface and enabled the COM port, I tried this with HyperTerminal in Win 95 and didn't get anything to show up on the screen. I guess I have a hardware problem unless there's more to it than what you described above. Hmm, I try to help as best as I can. I am cc'g the list as well. I took it for granted that one must set up the win95 driver first. A large oversight on my part. See the release notes below for exact setup and configuration. If you have set it up already, is the device and port enabled? I take it you are running win 95. Look in the control panel=> system properties=> device manager to see if in fact win95 recognizes that the com port is enabled, it would have a yellow exclamation point or red x on it if not. I suggest that you copy your existing profile and monkey with the copy. control panel=> system=> hardware profiles and copy your existing config and rename it. Always a good idea before you add hardware or have to set up a new configuration. Below is the Win95IR Release Notes document that came as part of the win95r.exe distribution, its propably mimed as well, damn exchange... Microsofta Windowsa 95 Infrared Communications Driver Version 2.0 Release Notes 10 May 1996 aCopyright Microsoft Corporation 1996. All Rights Reserved. Contents Infrared Communications Driver, Version 2.0 Using the IR Communications Driver Troubleshooting Product Support Installing and Using the IR Communications Driver Step 1. Installing the IR Communications Driver Step 2. Validating the IR Communications Driver Installation Printing to an IR-Capable Printer Exchanging Data Between Two Computers Viewing the Network Neighborhood Over an IR Link Step 3. Running Other IR-Capable Applications An Optional Step: Removing the IR Communications Driver Notes on Running the Direct Cable Connection Application Over an IR Link Preparing to Use DCC Making Sure DCC Is Installed on Both Computers An Optional Step: Installing DCC Establishing and Using the DCC IR Link Between Host and Guest IR Communications Driver Components IR Adapter Manufacturer Names and Addresses Infrared Communications Driver, Version 2.0 The Infrared Communications Driver, Version 2.0, is an optional component of the Windows 95 operating system. The Infrared Communications Driver supports hardware devices which enable networking and communications over the infrared media. The hardware device can be either an infrared port built into the platform or an infrared adapter connected to one of the platform's serial or parallel ports. User motivations for installing the infrared hardware device and the Version 2.0 Infrared communications driver are: * The user can use wireless IR links instead of serial and parallel cables. For example, files can be exchanged wirelessly between two computers that have an IR device and the Version 2.0 driver installed, instead of using a serial or parallel cable. Files can also be printed wirelessly on IR-capable printers. * The user can use wireless IR links instead of LAN cabling, if the user has an IR-capable LAN access point product connected to the network (see "Using the IR Communications Driver" for a list of LAN access point products the Version 2.0 IR driver has been tested with). The Version 2.0 IR communications driver supports IR communications links running at speeds up to 115.2 kbps. Using the IR Communications Driver This section of the Release Notes lists the hardware and software components on which the Version 2.0 IR communications driver has been tested. Notebook Computers The Version 2.0 IR communications driver has been successfully tested on the following Windows 95 notebook computers that have built-in IR ports: Gateway(r) 2000 Liberty HP(r)Omnibook(tm) 600CT HP Omnibook 4000C IBM(r) ThinkPad(r) 701C (Butterfly) Sharp(r) PC 3050 TI(r) TravelMate(tm)5000 Some testing of the Version 2.0 IR driver was also done on these Windows 95 notebooks: Digital(r) HiNote Ultra CT475 TI(r) TravelMate(tm)5000 IR Adapters The Version 2.0 IR driver has been successfully tested on Windows 95 platforms with the following IR adapters connected to serial ports: ACTiSYS ACT-200L Infrared Wireless Interface ACTiSYS ACT-220L Infrared Wireless Interface Adaptec(tm) AIRport APA-9320 External Infrared Adapter (this adapter is also called the Adaptec AIRport 2000) AMP PhasIR Serial Adapter Extended Systems JetEye PC Infrared PC Interface (ESI-9680) Parallax IR Adapter LiteLink PRA9500A To obtain any of the IR adapters listed above, contact the adapter manufacturer. The addresses of these manufacturers are listed in "IR Adapter Manufacturer Names and Addresses" at the end of this document. Applications The following applications have been run successfully over an IR communications link, using the IR communications driver and the hardware listed above: Windows 95 Direct Cable Connection (DCC). Various Windows communications applications, including HyperTerminal and DynaComm. Because the IR link simulates a serial communications link, some communications applications may not perform as expected after they connect over the IR link. See "Troubleshooting" for more information. For instructions on running DCC over an IR link, see "Notes on Running the Direct Cable Connection Application Over an IR Link" later in this document. Printers Numerous Windows 95 applications have successfully printed over an IR link to an HP Laserjet 5P or 5MP printer, which have built-in IR ports. Numerous Windows 95 applications have also printed successfully over an IR link to other printers with an Extended Systems JetEye Infrared Printer Port ESI-9580 infrared adapter connected to the printer parallel port. IrLan Access Points Local area network access over an IR link has been tested with the following IrLan access point devices: Extended Systems ESI-9910 JetEye Net Plus. Hewlett-Packard NetBeam IR Infrared LAN Adapter. Troubleshooting Some general troubleshooting tips are: * A user must always remove any previously installed version of the IR communications driver every time the driver is installed. If Version 1.0 of the driver is installed, it must be removed before installing Version 2.0. If an early Beta release of the Version 2.0 driver is installed, it must be removed before installing the current Version 2.0 release. Instructions for removing the IR communications driver are in "An Optional Step: Removing the IR Communications Driver." * If the user changes the IR adapter model that is connected to the computer, the user must remove the installed IR communications driver and reinstall it, specifying the new IR adapter type. Instructions for removing the IR communications driver are in "An Optional Step: Removing the IR Communications Driver." * During installation of the IR communications driver, a user may select the wrong port when the Add Infrared Device Wizard prompts for the physical COM port to which the IR device is connected. If the user selects the wrong COM port, the IR device will be unable to discover another IR device within range. Reasons why the user may select the wrong COM port vary, ranging >from reasoning such as "there is only one physical COM port for the IR adapter to be connected to so it must be COM1" to mislabeled COM ports on the computer case to the simple fact that the user doesn't know which COM port to select and doesn't know how to find out. A troubleshooting procedure is: 1. Put an actively searching IR device close to the computer's IR device. 2. Click the Infrared Monitor Options tab and then choose a different communications port (for example, COM1 instead of COM2). 3. Continue selecting different COM ports in this way until the IR device on the computer discovers the nearby IR device. Note that the alternatives displayed in the IrMon Options tab are always based on the internal wiring of the computer platform: -- COM1 always means a COM port wired to IRQ 4 and I/O address range 0x3F8 to 0x3FF. -- COM2 always means wired to IRQ 3 and 0x2F8 to 0x2FF. -- Physical COM3 always means IRQ 4 and 0x3E8 and 0x3EF. -- Physical COM4 always means IRQ5 and 0x2E8 and 0x2EF. * To get two IR devices to discover each other, the user may have to realign the IR devices so they point right at each other, move them closer together, and/or change the batteries in an IR adapter or plug the AC power into an IR adapter. The devices must be three feet apart, or less, and the angle of the cone of IR transmission is 30 degrees. Some devices work best if kept at least six inches apart. * If an IR adapter is attached to a COM port that is using an 8250 UART instead of a 16550 UART, or if an IR adapter is connected to a relatively slow computer (such as a 386 running at 20 MHz), the user might need to use the Limit Connection Speed To option in the Infrared Monitor Options tab to limit the connection speed to 19.2 kbps. After establishing a successful IR connection at this speed, the user can use the Limit Connection Speed To option to experiment with establishing a connection at a higher speed on their particular computer. * If the IR Monitor Options tab is used to change the port the IR adapter is attached to while IR communications are in progress, the IR connection is lost without prompting the user to verify that it is OK to disconnect. * Communication over a virtual COM port link between two computers may not be reliable if a printer's IR adapter is also within range. The user should move the printer's IR adapter out of range. * A user should not suspend a Windows 95 computer while an IR connection is established. Wait until the IR link is disconnected or force a disconnection before putting the computer in suspend mode. For example, if an IrLan connection is established on a laptop, the user must always move the laptop out of range of the IrLan access point before suspending the system or closing the laptop lid. Otherwise, the connection remains active and over time can drain the battery. * Connecting and disconnecting over a low-speed IR link or over a poor-quality link can take a long period of time (a few seconds), during which time the screen will appear to be frozen. To work around this, the user should use a higher-speed connection and/or take steps to improve the quality of the connection by, for example, realigning the IR devices so they point right at each other, moving the devices closer together, changing the batteries in an IR adapter, or plugging the AC power into an IR adapter. Troubleshooting tips specific to using IrLan access point devices are: * Do not assume that because an IR device on a PC communicates with an IR device on another PC at 115.2 kbps that the IR device will also communicate with an IrLan access point device at that speed. For example, suppose a user has two PC-based IR devices that have negotiated a link speed of 115.2 kbps. Then if the user points one of the devices at an IrLan access point device, these two devices can negotiate a link speed of 115.2 kbps but no subsequent communication takes place (the PC has no access to the network through the IR link). No error message is displayed in this case. * Extended Systems ESI-9910 JetEye Net Plus users utilizing NETBEUI may receive an error message when copying large files (for example, 5 MB files) to a network drive. If this happens, call Extended Systems, Inc. product support for NETBEUI configuration changes. For Extended Systems, Inc. co ntact information, see the topic "IR Adapter Manufacturer Names and Addresses." * If there is a problem establishing an IR link to an IrLan access point device when the network is also connected to a network interface card in the computer, try disconnecting the LAN from the network interface card. Restart the computer and make sure the computer IR device and the LAN access point IR port are within range. Then use the Infrared icon in the Control Panel to activate the IR link between the computer and the LAN access point device. * The IPX protocol may not communicate over an IrLan access point. This can be caused by the Dial-Up Adapter becoming the primary IPX adapter and no other adapter, such as the IrLan adapter, can take over. To get around this problem, the user can create a profile that does not contain the dial-up adapter and use it when accessing the net through IrLan. * During a file copy to a NetWare server running burst mode, if the IR connection between the computer and the IrLan access point is disconnected (for example, the IR beam is blocked), the file transfer cannot recover and the computer screen will stay the same indefinitely. If this happens often, turn off burst mode to enable recovery from a disconnection. There will be performance degradation with burst mode off. * Using the virtual parallel port connection to an Extended Systems ESI-9910 JetEye Net Plus IrLan access point to send data to a printer may result in a program fault. To get around this, use the virtual serial port on the IrLan access point to reach the printer. Troubleshooting tips related to using particular applications over IR links are: * If the Windows 95 application HyperTerminal is used to transfer files, there may be trouble doing file transfers successfully over an IR link. If the Zmodem protocol fails with a link speed of 115.2 kbps, use the IR Monitor Limit Connection Speed To tab to limit the link speed to 19.2 kbps and then retry the Zmodem file transfer. * When the Windows 95 application Direct Cable Connection (DCC) is run to establish the connection between the host and guest computers, the guest computer may display the message "Direct Cable Connection was unable to display shared folders of the host computer" and prompt the user to enter the computer name of the host computer. A convenient way to find the computer name of the host computer is on the Status tab of the Infrared Monitor interface screen. * When the Windows 95 application Direct Cable Connection (DCC) is run to establish an IR connection between the host and guest computers, DCC prompts the user to select a communications port (this procedure is described in the topic "Establishing and Using the DCC IR Link Between Host and Guest"). Selecting the virtual Infrared port in this step will fail (DCC announces the virtual port is not available) in the rare case that the user has suspended the Windows 95 operating system before invoking DCC in a session. Restart Windows 95 to begin a new session and DCC will work over an IR link. A troubleshooting tip related to developing an IrDA standard IrCOMM component for an IR communications driver is: * The IrCOMM implementation in the IR communications driver that runs on Windows 95 supports full emulation of 9-wire connections, but does not support emulation of 3-wire cooked connections. A specific example of this is the inability to print over an IR virtual COM port from the MS-DOS prompt, which uses a 3-wire cooked connection. IrDA drivers developed for platforms designed to communicate with Windows 95 platforms over IR links must implement full emulation of 9-wire connections (as specified in the IrDA IrCOMM specification). For example, a pair of handheld computer platforms may communicate with each other over IR links using 3-wire cooked emulation. However, if the user also expects to use one of the handhelds to communicate with a Windows 95 computer then the handheld IR driver must implement 9-wire connections. Troubleshooting tips related to specific infrared hardware are: * The Adaptec AIRport 2000 infrared adapter can be powered by either the serial port, installed AA batteries, or an external power supply. In some cases, the serial port may not provide sufficient power for the operation of the adapter. This can cause reduced operating range and/or a failure to find another IR device which is nearby and aligned correctly. If such a problem is suspected, connect an AC adapter or add four AA batteries to the battery compartment in the infrared adapter. This will assure sufficient power. In some instances, the user may need to separate the adapter by at least six inches from the other IR device. * If an ActiSys 220L IR adapter is attached to a computer and used to print to a printer that is using an Extended Systems ESI-9580 printer IR adapter, or for printing to an HP DeskJet 340, the Options tab in the Infrared Monitor must be used to limit the connection speed to 19.2 kbps to print successfully. If the IR devices are allowed to automatically negotiate the connection speed without setting this limit, they will negotiate a higher connection speed and an application will not be able to print. * The TI TravelMate 5000 may communicate over an IR link only at very low speeds (9600 bps). * The Sharp PC 3050 may communicate over an IR link only at speeds between 9600 bps and 19.2 kbps. * For the HP Omnibook 4000C or an HP Omnibook 600CT, which have built-in infrared ports, a special echo-canceling serial driver must be installed in addition to the components that make up the IR communications driver. The echo-canceling driver, along with instructions on how to install it, are available from Hewlett-Packard. Product Support Microsoft's end-user support offerings for the IR Communications driver range from no-cost and low-cost electronic information services (available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week) to annual support plans and CD-ROM subscription programs. Please check the SUPPORT.TXT on-line documentation that comes with Windows 95 for detailed information. Note that Microsoft support services are subject to Microsoft's then-current prices, terms, and conditions, which are subject to change without notice. In the United States, no-charge support from Microsoft support engineers is available via a toll call between 6:00 A.M. and 6:00 P.M. Pacific time, Monday through Friday, excluding holidays. For all issues except networking issues, this support is available for 90 days after the first call to a support engineer. Networking issues are defined as server-based setup, network administration, dialing into a computer, or connecting to the Internet via a service provider, and using e-mail and fax from within Windows 95. For fee-based support for these networking issues, see the information in SUPPORT.TXT. For technical support for Windows 95, call (206) 635-7122. In Canada, support engineers are available via a toll call between 8:00 A.M. and 8:00 P.M.Eastern time, Monday through Friday, excluding holidays. Call (905) 568-4494. This support is available for 90 days after the first call to a support engineer. When calling a support engineer, be at the computer and have the appropriate product documentation at hand. Be prepared to give the following information: * The version number of the Microsoft product being used. * The type of hardware being used. * The exact wording of any messages that appeared on the screen. * A description of what happened and what was being done when the problem occurred. * A description of attempts to solve the problem. Installing and Using the IR Communications Driver A recommended three-step process for installing and using the IR communications driver is: 1. Install the Windows 95 IR Communications driver. 2. Validate the installation by printing over the IR link, using an application to transfer data over the IR link, and/or using a local area network (LAN) over the IR link. 3. Start using the IR link on a daily basis. After a user installs the driver, it can be removed at any time (for more information, see "An Optional Step: Removing the IR Communications Driver"). Procedures for carrying out each of the recommended steps, including the driver removal step, are presented in detail below. Step 1. Installing the IR Communications Driver Note A user must always remove any previously installed version of the IR communications driver every time the driver is installed. If Version 1.0 of the driver is installed, it must be removed before installing Version 2.0. If an early Beta release of the Version 2.0 driver is installed, it must be removed before installing the current Version 2.0 release. Instructions for removing an IR device and driver installation are documented in "An Optional Step: Removing the IR Communications Driver." 1. For first-time installation of the IR communications driver, run Setup.exe as downloaded from the Microsoft web-site. 2. When the Add Infrared Device Wizard prompts to choose a manufacturer's name for the IR device, choose "(Standard Infrared Devices)" if the computer has a built-in device, or choose the name of the manufacturer and the model of the adapter if an IR adapter is attached to the computer. Then click the Next button. 3. When the Add Infrared Device Wizard prompts to choose the communications port that the IR device is physically connected to, click the port from the list. If uncertain which physical communications port the IR device is using, select the first COM port in the list (for example, COM1). Then click the Next button. 4. When the Add Infrared Device Wizard prompts to select the virtual COM and LPT ports, accept the default values by clicking the Next button. After the wizard copies the IR communications driver files to the hard disk, watch for the wizard to display two New Hardware Found messages. 5. When prompted by the Add Infrared Device Wizard, click the Finish button to complete the IR device installation. If the wizard did not display New Hardware Found messages as it carried out step 4, then restart the computer. (If the New Hardware Found messages were displayed, there is no need to restart the computer). 6. Activate the IR device by double-clicking the Infrared icon in the Control Panel. If there is no Infrared icon in the Control Panel, then either select the Refresh option from the Control Panel View menu or press the F5 function key to make the Infrared icon appear. For general information about how to use the Infrared Monitor, click the Help button in the lower-right corner of the Infrared Monitor interface screen. To get information about individual items in the Infrared Monitor interface, such as check boxes, move the mouse cursor over the on-screen interface item and click the right-button on the mouse. . The Options tab of the Infrared Monitor interface contains the following two particularly useful items: * The Enable Infrared Communication On check box, which enables and disables the IR device. * The Limit Connection Speed To option, which limits the link speed the IR device can negotiate. The Limit Connection Speed To option might be used if an adapter is attached to a COM port that is using an 8250 UART instead of a 16550 UART, or if an adapter is connected to a relatively slow computer (such as a 386 running at 20 MHz). In these cases, this option can be used to limit the connection speed to 19.2 kbps. Step 2. Validating the IR Communications Driver Installation To validate the IR communications driver installation, either: * Print from an application over an IR link to the printer (if an IR-capable printer is available). * Exchange data between two IR-capable computers over an IR link, using a communications application. * View the computer's Network Neighborhood over an IR link (if an IrLan access point device is available). Printing to an IR-Capable Printer To test the printing capability of a Windows 95 application over an IR link to an IrDA-compliant printer such as the HP 5P, carry out the installation step for the IR communications driver on one computer and then try the Print option in an application. Printers without built-in IR ports can be made IR-capable by connecting an IR adapter made for printers into the printer's parallel port. An example of an IR adapter for printers is the Extended Systems JetEye Infrared Printer Port ESI-9580. If a parallel cable is also used to connect the PC to the IR printer adapter, a user can use either the IR link or the parallel cable to print. The IR link is used when the user selects the virtual parallel port and the cable is used when the user selects the physical parallel port. To validate the IR link to the printer, make sure the correct printer driver is installed for the IR-capable printer (most printers with built-in IR ports are Plug and Play devices and the installation for these devices will be automatically carried out). Then use an application to print over the IR link. If the application prints on the IR-capable printer, the IR driver installation is validated. If there is trouble printing, see "Troubleshooting" for more information. Exchanging Data Between Two Computers To validate a link between two computers running Windows 95, install the IR communications driver on both computers. To do this, carry out the procedure in "Step 1. Installing the IR Communications Driver" earlier in this document. Note that the IR devices on the two computers do not have to be made by the same manufacturer as long as both devices are IrDA-compliant. For example, the IR link will work with a JetEye PC Infrared PC Interface (ESI-9680) attached to one desktop computer and an Adaptec AIRport APA-9320 External Infrared Adapter attached to the other desktop. One way to validate an IR link is to run the HyperTerminal application on both computers and send characters from the keyboard of each computer over the IR link. HyperTerminal is installed on a Windows 95 computer as part of the typical installation that is recommended for most computers. To validate the IR driver installation of the IR driver on both computers, carry out the following procedure: 1. On both computers, click the Start button, point to Settings, and then click the Control Panel. Double-click the Infrared icon. Then move the IR devices within 3 feet of each other, and make sure they're pointing at each other. When the two IR devices discover each other, the message "Available infrared devices in range" will appear on the Status tab of the Infrared Monitor interface screen. Make sure Infrared Monitor reports both IR devices have the appropriate infrared device within range before proceeding. It might be necessary to realign the IR devices so they point right at each other, move them closer together, and/or change the batteries in an IR adapter or plug the AC power into an IR adapter. For more information, see "Troubleshooting" earlier in the document. 2. On one of the computers, click the Options tab in the Infrared Monitor interface and find the information that starts with "Providing application support on ...". Write down the name of the COM port found there. This is the name of the virtual serial port that the IR link using. The name of this virtual serial port might be COM4 or COM5 and it will differ from the name of the physical communications port the IR device is running on (which is typically named COM1 or COM2). 3. Run HyperTerminal on the computer with the virtual serial port name by clicking the Start button, pointing to Programs, pointing to Accessories, and then clicking the HyperTerminal folder. In the window that appears, double-click the Hypertrm.exe icon. 4. In the Connection Description dialog box, type a descriptive name (such as "Direct IR") for the new connection, and then click OK. 5. In the Phone Number dialog box, use the Connect Using drop-down list to click the "Direct to Comx" entry, where x is the number of the virtual COM port written down in step 2. Then click OK. It is now possible to start using HyperTerminal on one of the computers. 6. Repeat steps 2. through 5. for the other computer. 7. In HyperTerminal on either computer, type any characters at the keyboard. If the typed characters appear in the HyperTerminal window on the other computer, then it is confirmed that the IR link works in that direction. Repeat this step on the other computer. If the IR link works in both directions using HyperTerminal, the successful installation of the IR communications driver on the two computers has been confirmed. Note The changes in status are displayed in the Status tab of the Infrared Monitor interface while typing characters in HyperTerminal. 8. Disconnect the HyperTerminal direct IR connection by exiting the HyperTerminal application on both computers. When prompted to save the session, click Yes. This saves the direct IR connection setup information as an icon in the HyperTerminal main folder, enabling a user to double-click this icon to restart one side of the HyperTerminal direct IR connection. Viewing the Network Neighborhood Over an IR Link The Version 2.0 IR communications driver enables a computer with an IR device (either a built-in device or an adapter) to connect to a local area network (LAN) through an IrLan access point device acting as the network adapter for the computer. An IrLan access point device is hardware that supports both a LAN network interface controller (NIC) and an infrared transceiver. Local area network access over an IR link has been tested with the following IrLan access point devices: the Extended Systems ESI-9910 JetEye Net Plus and the Hewlett-Packard NetBeam IR Infrared LAN Adapter. To test a computer's ability to use a local area network (LAN) over an IR link, first install the IR communications driver on the computer. Then do the following: 1. Run IR Monitor. 2. Power on the IrLan access point device, such as the Extended Systems ESI-9910 JetEye Net Plus, and place the infrared receiver/transmitter of the IrLan access point device within range of the computer's infrared device. 3. When the computer infrared device and the IrLan access point infrared device discover each other, the Infrared Monitor interface indicates "Infrared communication in progress." 4. When the Infrared Monitor interface shows that the IR link has been established, click on the Network Neighborhood icon to display the icons of the remote machines that can be accessed through the IrLan access point device. There can be a delay of some seconds before the remote machine icons are displayed. If there is trouble accessing the LAN, see "Troubleshooting" for more information. Step 3. Running Other IR-Capable Applications Most applications that can communicate over a null modem cable that connects serial ports on two Windows 95 computers should also be able to communicate over an IR link. The procedure for setting up and using the IR link with these other communicating applications will probably be similar to the procedure used in "Exchanging Data Between Two Computers," which uses the HyperTerminal application to validate the installation of the IR communications driver. The procedure for running the Windows 95 Direct Cable Connection application is given in detail in "Notes on Running the Direct Cable Connection Application Over an IR Link." An Optional Step: Removing the IR Communications Driver The IR communications driver can be removed either by using Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel or by using the Device Manager. Both methods are documented in these Release Notes, but using Add/Remove Programs is the preferred method. Using Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel To carry out the preferred way of removing the IR communications driver, do the following: 1. Click the Start button and select the Settings option. Then select the Control Panel option. 2. Double-click Add/Remove Programs in the Control panel. 3. When a list of software components is displayed, select the Infrared Support for Windows 95 entry and click the Add/Remove button. 4. When the system prompts you to restart, do so. Using the Device Manager To remove the IR communications driver using the Device Manager, do the following: 1. To run the Device Manager, right-click on the My Computer icon, select the Properties option from the popup menu, and then click the Device Manager tab in the System Properties dialog. 2. To display the name of the infrared device installed on the computer, in the System Properties dialog, make sure the View devices by type option is selected. Then click the plus sign to the left of the Infrared device class label. Select the infrared device name and click the Remove button. 3. When prompted, click OK to confirm the device removal. After the Device Manager has successfully removed the infrared device installation information from the computer, the Infrared device class label will disappear from the System Properties dialog. Click the Close button. Note The Infrared Monitor icon may still be displayed in the Windows 95 status bar, even after the infrared device is removed. Ignore it; the Infrared Monitor cannot be used to establish an IR link after the infrared device is removed. Notes on Running the Direct Cable Connection Application Over an IR Link With Direct Cable Connection (DCC), a direct serial or parallel cable connection can be established between two computers to share the resources of the computer designated as the host. DCC can also be used over an IR link connecting the host and a guest computer. If the host is connected to a LAN, the host can also be used as a gateway to the LAN for the guest. Preparing to Use DCC The computer that contains the folder to be shared is the host, and the other computer is the guest. Share a folder on the host, granting access rights to anyone using the guest computer, by carrying out the procedure given below. Note The following procedure is just one of many that could be used to share files in a folder on the host computer. For example, there is user-level access control as well as share-level access control. The following procedure is one of the simplest access control procedures, which is all that is needed to get started using DCC. To get information about all the ways files, folders, and printers can be shared, use the Windows 95 Help. 1. Double-click on the My Computer icon. 2. Double-click on the icon of the drive that contains the folder to share (for example, double-click on the icon for the C: drive). 3. Right-click on the icon of the folder to share and then select Properties. 4. In the folder properties dialog, select the Sharing tab and then select the Shared As option, enter a share name, enter a comment, and add user access rights (Full or Read-Only). 5. The picture of a hand is added to the folder icon to indicate the selected folder is now a shared resource. Making Sure DCC Is Installed on Both Computers DCC is not installed with the typical Windows 95 installation recommended for most computers. Check whether DCC is installed on both of the two computers that will be using the IR link. To do this, click the Start button, point to Programs, and then point to Accessories. Direct Cable Connection appears in this menu of it is installed on the computer being checked. If DCC is installed on the host and DCC is installed on the guest, then skip the next step. An Optional Step: Installing DCC Before establishing a DCC connection, DCC must be installed on both the host and guest. The procedure for installing DCC on either the host or the guest is given below. If DCC is not installed on the host and is also not installed on the guest, the following procedure must be run on each machine. 1. Click the Start button, point to Settings, and then click the Control Panel. Double-click the Add/Remove Programs icon. 2. In the Add/Remove Program Properties, click the Windows Setup tab. 3. In the Components list, click Communications, and then click the Details button. 4. In the Communications dialog box, make sure Direct Cable Connection is checked and then click OK. Establishing and Using the DCC IR Link Between Host and Guest To run DCC over an IR link, carry out the following procedure: 1. Make sure the IR communications driver is properly installed and the IR devices are enabled by carrying out the procedures in "Step 1. Installing the IR Communications Driver" and "Step 2. Validating the IR Communications Driver Installation" earlier in this document. Note To increase the likelihood of success with DCC over an IR link, use the Limit Connection Speed To option on the Infrared Monitor Options tab to limit the IR connection speed to 9600 bps for the first test of DCC over the IR link (and then increase the speed later). 2. On the host computer, click the Start button, point to Accessories, and then click Direct Cable Connection. 3. Follow the steps in the Direct Cable Connection Wizard to set up the host computer. When the wizard prompts for it, select the Host option. When the wizard prompts to choose a port, use the same virtual port used in the procedure "Step 2. Validating the IR Communications Driver Installation" earlier in this document. The wizard will also offer password protection. It is not necessary to establish password protection on the host for this test of the IR link. When done with the wizard, click the Finish button. DCC will start running on the IR link and display the message "Status: Waiting to connect via Serial cable on Comx," where Comx is the name of the virtual port the IR link is using. 4. Repeat steps 2 and 3 for the guest computer, except select the Guest option instead of the Host option. When done with the wizard, click the Finish button. The DCC connection is automatically made over the IR link, and all the shared folders on the host are displayed on the guest's screen. 5. Working on the guest computer, to copy a shared folder from the host to the guest over the IR link select the folder's icon in the window that displays all the shared folders that are on the host and drag the icon to the desktop. To work on a shared folder on the host without copying it to the guest, double-click on the folder in the display on the guest. Note that if the host is connected to a network, the guest can reach shared resources on the network through the DCC connection to the host. IR Communications Driver Components The files that make up the IR communications driver are: Filename Description ACT200L.VXD Support for the ACTiSYS ACT-IR200L IR adapter. ACT220L.VXD Support for the ACTiSYS ACT-IR220L IR adapter. ADAPTEC.VXD Support for Adaptec IR adapter. CRYSTAL.VXD Support for AMP PhasIR Serial Adapter. ESI.VXD Support for Extended Systems JetEye PC Infrared Interface (ESI9680). INFRARED.CPL Infrared device in the Windows 95 Control Panel. INFRARED.DLL Infrared device class installer. INFRARED.INF IR device information file for Windows 95 Setup. INFRARED.HLP On-line help topics for Infrared Monitor. IRCOMM.VXD Top layer of IR communications for Windows 95. IRDALAN.INF IrLan device information file for Windows 95 Setup. IRDALAN.SYS IrLan driver. IRENUM.VXD Enumerator for the "IR bus." IRLAMP.VXD Generic infrared framer, lower layer of IR communications for Windows 95. IRLAPFRM.VXD IRMON.EXE Infrared Monitor. IRMONHLP.EXE IR Monitor on-line help utility. IR_BEGIN.WAV Sound for Infrared Monitor user interface. IR_END.WAV Sound for Infrared Monitor user interface. IR_INTER.WAV Sound for Infrared Monitor user interface. MSPORTS.INF IR port information file for Windows 95 Setup. PARALLAX.VXD Support for Parallax IR Adapter, LiteLink PRA9500A. W_IR.CNT Table of contents for Infrared Monitor on-line help. The documentation files supplied with the IR device driver are: Filename Description RELNOTES.DOC This document. IR Adapter Manufacturer Names and Addresses The names and addresses of IR adapter manufacturers that have been successfully tested with the IR driver in the Windows 95 IR Communications DDK are: ActiSys, Inc. 1507 Fulton Place Fremont CA 94539 tel: 510-490-8024 fax: 510-623-7268 email: corp@actisys.com Adaptec, Inc. 691 South Milpitas Blvd, Milpitas CA 95035 tel: 1-800-959-7274 fax: 1-408-957-7223 AMP Product Information Center AMP Incorporated Harrisburg PA 17105 tel: 1-800-522-6752 Extended Systems, Inc. 5777 North Meeker Ave Boise ID 83704-1520 tel: 208-322-7575 fax: 208-377-1906 The Parallax IR adapter distributor in North America is: TSC Electronics 1610 Lockness Place Torrance CA 90501 tel: 310 534 2738 fax: 310 534 3216 email: dtsaitsc@aol.com contact person: Daniel Tsai The Parallax IR adapter distributor outside North America is: Parallax Research 201 Innovation Centre NTU Nanyang Drive Singapore 639798 Republic of Singapore tel: +65 793 0855 fax: +65 793 0775 email: parallax@technet.sg From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 9 13:46:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA228169973; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:46:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07850; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:44:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 9 May 1997 13:43:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07658; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:43:35 -0400 Received: from brickbat8.mindspring.com (brickbat8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07639; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:43:30 -0400 Received: from tomcat133 (ip16.princeton.nj.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.56.16]) by brickbat8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA26197 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970509134201.0073efec@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: dspeed@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 13:42:13 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Dave Speed Subject: CD-R Information Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:15 5/9/97 -0400, John Kim wrote: >Don't try to multitask when it's running, and SCSI is best. Depends on the CD-R unit, the buffer, the software, the rest of your system and how fast yo want to burn. I'm running a 133 mhz Pentium and downloading some news while typing this **while** burning a CD-R from an EIDE drive. The adaptec software lets you do real-time trial runs to test. Nice. I have not had a failure yet. BTW, this is not on a Thinkpad. If I can ever afford a 760 ED or better (and they are coming down ...) I'll let you know. >Also, I don't know if a PCMCIA SCSI port would be up to handling a 4x >CD-R This too is a consideration. But most CD-R units burn at 2x or 1x as well. FWIW, I got a Ricoh MP6200S the other day and like it. $500 w software >from NECX. It does CD-RW as well as CD-R which makes it an ideal backup media for me. As well as a nice mass storage media at bargain basement prices. Put one on the home machine and backup over the ethernet link to your hard drive and then burn a disk. Do incremental backups on the CD-RW disks ($25 ea). Dave Speed Please !!! - keep the quoted text and big sigs down to a minimum. Thanks ! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 9 15:37:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA025146664; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:37:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20584; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:36:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 9 May 1997 15:33:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20212; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:33:48 -0400 Received: from callisto.si.usherb.ca (callisto.si.USherb.ca [132.210.10.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20202; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:33:44 -0400 Received: from callisto.si.USherb.ca by callisto.si.usherb.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA75230; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:29:57 -0400 Received: by deepthroat.residence.usherb.ca with Microsoft Mail id <01BC5C8E.5A094680@deepthroat.residence.usherb.ca>; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:33:32 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC5C8E.5A094680@deepthroat.residence.usherb.ca> From: Fabian Rodriguez To: "'ThinkPad List'" Subject: Grayscale Quickcam on 365XD? Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 15:33:31 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I have a friends quickcam that wont work on my tp 365XD. Do I need the Y = connector so Windows95 sees it? It seems it does not get power from the = keyboard/bus mouse connector. HELP! I connected a ps2 keyboard to the pass thru connector of the keyboard = doesnot work either. Fabian Fabian Rodriguez - mailto:Fabian.Rodriguez@callisto.si.usherb.ca http://callisto.si.usherb.ca/~94251116 A.G.E.S.:http://callisto.si.usherb.ca/~ages F.E.U.S.:http://callisto.si.usherb.ca/~feus From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 9 16:44:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA082280643; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:44:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27745; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:42:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 9 May 1997 16:40:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27550; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:40:50 -0400 Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (brickbat9.mindspring.com [207.69.200.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27509; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:40:40 -0400 Received: from mail.mindspring.com (user-37kb9cc.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.165.140]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24387 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 16:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970509163901.686f32a4@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: scoundrl@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Thomas Gauldin Subject: Mwave upgrade to 755CD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was a subscriber to this list, but am no longer. I'd appreciate any comments be e-mailed to me instead. I have a TP755CD, which naturally has the Mwave modem. I've seen ads for modems featuring the Mwave set advertising "Can be upgraded to 56k by software." Does anyone know if there is a download for my Mwave modem for the laptop that will increase its speed? What's the current speed? Tom Thomas A. Gauldin Here's to the land of the Longleaf Pine 12333 Wingspread Way The Summerland, where the sun doth Shine Raleigh NC 27614-9245 Where the weak grow Strong and the Strong grow Great (919) 676-1404 fax Here's to Downhome, the Old North State scoundrl@mindspring.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 9 17:48:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA141444536; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:48:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04730; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:45:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 9 May 1997 17:44:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04432; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:43:58 -0400 Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04415; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:43:52 -0400 Received: from csis2.ee.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa26917; 9 May 97 17:11 EDT Received: (from cyj9h@localhost) by csis2.ee.Virginia.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.6) id RAA00361 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:11:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Charles Y. Choi" Message-Id: <199705092111.RAA00361@csis2.ee.Virginia.EDU> Subject: Re: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems (fwd) To: Thinkpad Mailing List Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 17:11:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Peter Lewis replies: >> > >> Questions about your post: >> Is the 65545 video chip in the 701 standard issue? >> In other words, is the latest Win95 driver you alluded to one that _all_ >> 701 owners running Win95 could/should install? Does it matter if it's 701c >> or 701cs? >> You're talking about file name WIN95141.ZIP dated 3/25/97, size 75K, >> DirectX 3.0, correct? >> Is this driver also available/recommended at an IBM site? >> Given past headache/heartache with video issues on other computers, and the >> fact that I'm having no display problems w/my TP701c, I am loathe to mess >> with video unless it's a sure thing, or darn near. >> Thanks. >> -- To be more precise: Yes, I am using the win95141.zip dated 3/25/97, size 75K with the DirectX 3.0 support on a 701CS. Last time I checked the IBM web site, that driver was not mentioned, however, it seems that very little has been done by IBM to provide updated drivers for any 701 series machine since mid-last year. Chips & Technologies has their disclaimer on whether their drivers will work for anything, but it works fine for me, and the Direct X support is nice for grins, even if all that software that exploits it runs best on Pentium machines. So, in short, do what you feel is in your best interest - I feel your pain in fearing video upgrades (esp. with Win95), but having external 1024x768x256 without the interlacing and not having the MS-DOS command line fuzzies by upgrading the video driver was a big win for me. -charles From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 9 19:27:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA216180417; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:26:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13453; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:25:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 9 May 1997 19:23:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13221; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:23:31 -0400 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@morgana.punk.net [204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13199; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:23:26 -0400 Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA00987; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 16:25:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: Fabian Rodriguez Cc: "'ThinkPad List'" Subject: Re: Grayscale Quickcam on 365XD? In-Reply-To: <01BC5C8E.5A094680@deepthroat.residence.usherb.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 9 May 1997, Fabian Rodriguez wrote: > > Hello, > I have a friends quickcam that wont work on my tp 365XD. Do I need the Y connector so Windows95 sees it? It seems it does not get power from the keyboard/bus mouse connector. HELP! > > I connected a ps2 keyboard to the pass thru connector of the keyboard doesnot work either. My greyscale QuickCan works fine drawing power from the port on my TP560. Is the PS/2 mouse port enabled in the system setup? Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 9 20:35:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA226144502; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:35:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18709; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:33:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 9 May 1997 20:30:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18281; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:30:13 -0400 Received: from barney.usu.edu (barney.usu.edu [129.123.1.89]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18265; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:30:08 -0400 Received: from greg.usu.edu (asy25.xy1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IIOBUCSUA89LYTMZ@cc.usu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 09 May 1997 18:30:05 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 18:25:03 -0600 From: Greg Subject: Re: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems (fwd) To: Thinkpad Mailing List Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <3373C05F.5FB1@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199705092111.RAA00361@csis2.ee.Virginia.EDU> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Charles Y. Choi wrote: > > Peter Lewis replies: > >> > > >> Questions about your post: > >> Is the 65545 video chip in the 701 standard issue? > >> In other words, is the latest Win95 driver you alluded to one that _all_ > >> 701 owners running Win95 could/should install? Does it matter if it's 701c > >> or 701cs? > >> You're talking about file name WIN95141.ZIP dated 3/25/97, size 75K, > >> DirectX 3.0, correct? > >> Is this driver also available/recommended at an IBM site? > >> Given past headache/heartache with video issues on other computers, and the > >> fact that I'm having no display problems w/my TP701c, I am loathe to mess > >> with video unless it's a sure thing, or darn near. > >> Thanks. > >> -- > > To be more precise: > > Yes, I am using the win95141.zip dated 3/25/97, size 75K with the > DirectX 3.0 support on a 701CS. > > Last time I checked the IBM web site, that driver was not mentioned, > however, it seems that very little has been done by IBM to provide > updated drivers for any 701 series machine since mid-last year. > > Chips & Technologies has their disclaimer on whether their drivers > will work for anything, but it works fine for me, and the Direct X > support is nice for grins, even if all that software that exploits it > runs best on Pentium machines. > > So, in short, do what you feel is in your best interest - I feel > your pain in fearing video upgrades (esp. with Win95), but having > external 1024x768x256 without the interlacing and not having > the MS-DOS command line fuzzies by upgrading the video driver > was a big win for me. > > -charles Upon reading about it here, I went and downloaded and installed the new drivers. They work great for me except for one tiny problem. Everytime I adjust the brightness or contrast using the Fn key combo my mouse cursor becomes invisible for a while until I move it around and click on things. Its still there in theory, it's just invisible. I can see tool tips as it passes over things and I can click on things, I just have to guess where it is until it magically reappears on its own. But the added tab in the display settings is handy for swithcing displays when I'm docked with the cover closed. Plus it even seems to support more than 256 colors now. Thanks for the tip. Greg A. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 10 13:46:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA039726396; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:46:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27933; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:45:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 10 May 1997 13:42:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27706; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:42:42 -0400 Received: from callisto.si.usherb.ca (callisto.si.USherb.ca [132.210.10.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27696; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:42:37 -0400 Received: from callisto.si.USherb.ca by callisto.si.usherb.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA71486; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:38:56 -0400 Message-Id: <3374B384.54FC@callisto.si.usherb.ca> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 13:42:28 -0400 From: "F. Rodriguez" Organization: InterActions! - http://callisto.si.usherb.ca/~94251116 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [fr] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,mtl.general Cc: Thinkpad list Subject: QuickCam Grayscale and IBM Thinkpad 365XD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I bought a QuickCam thinking it would be the easiest to plug in to my laptop.. my mistake! I'll have to give up my parallel port and buy a Y cable for the kbd/mouse ps2 port so it gets the power to be detected... Is there any other similar camera I could use for simple videoconferencing that would not involve a PCMCIA video capture card? If anyone can point me to a store in the Montreal/Sherbrooke area, I would be most pleased. Is there any camera that does not neet to be plugged in in the keyboard port to get its power? one that won t take the parallel port to itself? Thansk for any hints on this. Fabian ps. there is no such "enable Ps2" in either Setup or TP Features software on the 365XD, the Y cable from IBM is really needed to make the kbd work. -- Fabian Rodriguez - mailto:Fabian.Rodriguez@callisto.si.usherb.ca http://callisto.si.usherb.ca/~94251116 A.G.E.S. : http://callisto.si.usherb.ca/~ages Journal Le Fameux: http://callisto.si.usherb.ca/~fameux From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 10 18:04:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA073231870; Sat, 10 May 1997 18:04:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14634; Sat, 10 May 1997 18:03:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 10 May 1997 18:01:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14206; Sat, 10 May 1997 18:01:21 -0400 Received: from baker.vnw.com (baker.vnw.com [192.220.175.88]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14195; Sat, 10 May 1997 18:01:16 -0400 Received: by baker.vnw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BC5D53.468A78C0@baker.vnw.com>; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:03:10 -0700 Message-Id: From: Stephen Gutknecht To: "'Steve Parker'" , "'Thinkpad Mailing List'" Subject: RE: Possible 560 newbie Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 15:02:13 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Kingston and another vendor are selling a 64MB upgrade for the TP 560. I just got a new 2GB/133 560 and am holding out for the 64MB upgrade (72MB total). They are supposed to ship this week... The price was about double that of a 32MB... Anyone purchasing new today should look at the total cost of their investment... \ RAM is cheap compared to what it used to be (9 months ago for laptops), and 72MB on a laptop isn't that far fetched. If you think you could be running Windows 97 or Windows NT Workstation.... the $200 to $400 difference would seem a given... For others, even on Windows 95, there is only one expansion module (and you would have to throw away or sell to get new). A new purchaser should consider the 2 to 3 year lifespan of a typical laptop.... and think about it... Stephen Gutknecht >-----Original Message----- >From: Steve Parker [SMTP:sparker@morgana.punk.net] >Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 1997 4:33 PM >To: Thinkpad Mailing List >Subject: Re: Possible 560 newbie > >[quote snip] > > I have a TP560-120 and it benchmarks at about an equivalent of a Pentium >90 desktop. A TP560-133 should approximately match a Pentium 100 >desktop system. > > The TP560 comes with 8MB and can take one memory module at either 8MB, >16MB, or 32MB which gives you memory options of 8MB, 16MB, 24MB and 40MB. >I bought my TP560 with 24MB installed and then upgraded it to 40MB. With >my light use of Photoshop 3.05 on it I didn't notice much difference. I >do most of my Photoshop work on my 64MB RAM desktop since it is a bit more >capable, and that is where my scanner is.. =) > > >Steve > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 11 03:01:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA154164077; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:01:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13726; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:00:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 11 May 1997 02:58:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13594; Sun, 11 May 1997 02:58:29 -0400 Received: from hauki.clinet.fi (root@hauki.clinet.fi [194.100.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13583; Sun, 11 May 1997 02:58:22 -0400 Received: from CHIPIE (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.8.5/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA29248 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 09:58:19 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199705110658.JAA29248@hauki.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sun, 11 May 97 09:58:35 +0300 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: which TP701 video driver for OS/2? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.27c Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, There seems to be at least two OS/2 video drivers available for the TP701: one from IBM (packaged as VO701322.EXE), the other one (more recent) from Chips & Technologies (packaged as OS2420.ZIP). Is anyone using the C&T driver (a generic driver for the 655xx chip I believe)? According to the README file, it offers 800x600x64K, which the IBM driver doesn't do. I remember it was such a pain to install the video driver on my TP701 that I'd prefer to hear from other people's experiences before jumping. Thanks, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 11 22:22:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA292143748; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:22:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08357; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:21:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 11 May 1997 22:18:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08093; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:18:00 -0400 Received: from ns3.interserf.net (root@ns3.interserf.net [205.244.8.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08083; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:17:56 -0400 Received: from serfer34.interserf.net (serfer34.interserf.net [205.244.8.223]) by ns3.interserf.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA16530 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:20:01 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:20:01 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970511222131.344fdbf8@mail.interserf.net> X-Sender: vicgonzlez@mail.interserf.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Vic Gonzalez Subject: 701C & LINUX: recommendations? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all - I'm getting ready to load LINUX on my 701C. Anyone have any warnings, advice, or suggestions to keep me out of the woods. (Special drivers, etc.) Configuration is as follows: 75Mhz, 24Mb, 720Mb Adaptec PCMCIA "Slim SCSI" SONY 4X CDROM - SCSI ZIP 100 - SCSI Cardinal 33.6 Modem Thanks, in advance, for your help. -Vic Gonzalez From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 12 00:00:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA007069635; Mon, 12 May 1997 00:00:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15604; Sun, 11 May 1997 23:59:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 11 May 1997 23:58:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15463; Sun, 11 May 1997 23:58:24 -0400 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15453; Sun, 11 May 1997 23:58:18 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA248469 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 12 May 1997 03:58:15 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-246.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.246) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smayloDM2; Mon May 12 03:57:58 1997 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sun, 11 May 1997 21:57:51 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC5E56.5F5FBF00@cmk@ibm.net> From: ChinMing Kuo To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: HD caddy, source and tips&tricks Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 21:57:15 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4008 Encoding: 9 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a couple of questions related to HD caddy (for 760, CD or ED): 1. Where's a good source for such a caddy? I've seen this questions asked often and with no response. 2. I have an old HD with a caddy for 760CD. How can I take the caddy of the drive and re-use it for a 2G drive? I unscrewed the two screws at the top and that's as far as I can go in terms of disassembling the beast. Any advise will be great. ChinMing Kuo cmk@ibm.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 12 00:18:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA010250700; Mon, 12 May 1997 00:18:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17668; Mon, 12 May 1997 00:17:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 12 May 1997 00:16:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17550; Mon, 12 May 1997 00:16:36 -0400 Received: from mail-gw3.pacbell.net (mail-gw3.pacbell.net [206.13.28.55]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17533; Mon, 12 May 1997 00:16:30 -0400 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-120-60.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.120.60]) by mail-gw3.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA13621; Sun, 11 May 1997 21:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705120416.VAA13621@mail-gw3.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "ChinMing Kuo" Cc: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: Re: HD caddy, source and tips&tricks Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 21:17:44 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > 1. Where's a good source for such a caddy? I've seen this questions asked often and with no response. It was mentioned once on the Thinkpad list, but I don't know. Search the archives. > 2. I have an old HD with a caddy for 760CD. How can I take the caddy of the drive and re-use it for a > 2G drive? I unscrewed the two screws at the top and that's as far as I can go in terms of disassembling the beast. You should buy a IBM 12.5 mm thick drive. At some point IBM changed how their Master/Slave configuration was done so you may have to cut some pins to make it work properly. I have done this once. After removing the screws pull off the sticker label thing. Once that is off pull the metal cover away from the plastic bottom piece. Just take your time and don't force anything. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 12 00:25:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA011911152; Mon, 12 May 1997 00:25:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18533; Mon, 12 May 1997 00:24:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 12 May 1997 00:24:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18386; Mon, 12 May 1997 00:24:01 -0400 Received: from cosmos.psc.sc.edu (cosmos.psc.sc.edu [129.252.32.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18308; Mon, 12 May 1997 00:23:52 -0400 Received: from flux.cosm.sc.edu (flux.cosm.sc.edu [129.252.40.13]) by cosmos.psc.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id EAA02688 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:23:48 GMT Received: from localhost by flux.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id EAA00873; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:23:47 GMT Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 00:23:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Waldemar Puszkarz To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C & LINUX: recommendations? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I don't have anything to say that could help you in that but would appreciate if you posted your experiences once you are successfully done with the job. I am planning to do the same in a few months. Thanks, Waldemar P.S. In fact, perhaps this could help you: http://reality.sgi.com/mende/linuxTP701/index.html It seems to be a good source of information. ----------------- Waldemar Puszkarz Waldemar's List: www.netservers.com/~waldemar/list.shtml On Sun, 11 May 1997, Vic Gonzalez wrote: > Hi all - > I'm getting ready to load LINUX on my 701C. Anyone have any warnings, > advice, or suggestions to keep me out of the woods. (Special drivers, etc.) > Configuration is as follows: > 75Mhz, 24Mb, 720Mb > Adaptec PCMCIA "Slim SCSI" > SONY 4X CDROM - SCSI > ZIP 100 - SCSI > Cardinal 33.6 Modem > > Thanks, in advance, for your help. > > -Vic Gonzalez > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 12 09:15:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA075102902; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:15:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00993; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:12:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 12 May 1997 09:07:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29736; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:07:05 -0400 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29720; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:06:59 -0400 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-117-6.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.117.6]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id GAA02736 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705121305.GAA02736@mail-gw.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: FS: Thinkpad 760E (133MHz) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 06:08:41 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu IBM Thinkpad 760E Portable -- $3,100 -Model 9546-U4A Features: -12.1" Active Matrix (TFT) SVGA (800x600) Screen **** Screen has no bad pixels! **** -16 MB (upgradable to 104 MB) -Pentium 133 MHz w/256K Sync. Pipeline Cache -16 bit Stereo Sound w/ Wavetable (SB Support) -810 MB Removable Hard Drive (upgradable to 3.0 GB) -28.8 Modem Built-in, Upgradable (Voice Mail & FAX) -Unique Ergo Keyboard that Tilts-up When You Open Case -IRDa 1.15 Mbps port (Front and Rear) -Two 32 bit PCMCIA Type II slots or one Type III (Cardbus PCI) -LIon Battery (two batteries can be installed) -2 Years Left on Transferrable IBM Easyserve Warranty Includes: -Windows '95 OSR2 Installed (Includes Manual) -Original Box and Dodads -All Manuals See http://www.us.pc.ibm.com/products/thinkpad/2e62_3b2.html or http://www.sonal.co.uk/so14011.htm for more information on this model. This machine is about 10 months old, but is in perfect condition. Check out http://www.pc.ibm.com/thinkpad for more general information. If you want more memory add $90 for 32MB Total. If you want a 1440 MB drive instead of the 810 MB add $200. Price includes UPS ground shipping to US addresses. \\|||// (o) (o) =========.oOO==( )==OOo.=========== || || || Thomas D. Franklin || || mailto:tomfrank@pacbell.net || || || || .oooO Oooo. || ==========( )===( )============ \ ( ) / \_) (_/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 12 19:55:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA184181329; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:55:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04882; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:54:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 12 May 1997 19:51:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04628; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:51:44 -0400 Received: from fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (fep1-orange.clear.net.nz [203.97.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04616; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:51:37 -0400 Received: from laptop (d2-u41.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.97.50.169]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.7) with ESMTP id LAA03392; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:51:25 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199705122351.LAA03392@fep1-orange.clear.net.nz> From: "Fin Macgee" To: Subject: VCD Player Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:48:35 +1200 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On a recent trip to Hong Kong, I picked up a Movie in VCD format. The resulting playback under Win95 is very jerky, with pauses of about 1 second between 2 seconds of playback. My think pad is a 760ED with 32Mb Ram. Any configuration assistance would be greatly appreciated. Fin From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 12 23:54:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA220165677; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:54:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21909; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:53:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 12 May 1997 23:52:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21673; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:52:10 -0400 Received: from zafu.bbn.com (ZAFU.BBN.COM [128.89.0.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21662; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:52:05 -0400 Received: from pinot-noir.bbn.com (PINOT-BLANC.BBN.COM [128.33.224.56]) by zafu.bbn.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA28314 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970512235122.00f43f6c@zima.bbn.com> X-Sender: cerys@zima.bbn.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 23:51:22 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Daniel Cerys Subject: Dock I SCSI connector Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just purchased a Dock I (at a closeout price) that I wanted to use as a port replicator at home. Much to my surprise, it appears to have a SCSI interface in the dock. However, much to my horror, the SCSI connector it uses is something I'm not familiar with. It appears to be a 60-contact connector, sort of like a Centronics-style but different. Two questions: 1) will this SCSI interface work as-is with a 760CD running Win95? (I use a Dock II at work with SCSI devices). 2) Does anyone know a good source of cables for this? I'd like the other end of the connector to be either a Centronics 50 pin, or a DB25 (ala Zip drive). The only thing I've found so far is a company selling a 5 ft cable for $100. I'd prefer something shorter and cheaper. Thanks, Dan ------------------------------------------------ Daniel Cerys Email: cerys@bbn.com BBN Work Phone: +1(617)873-4534 10 Moulton St. FAX: +1(617)873-2794 Mail Stop 6/4A Cambridge MA 02138 USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 13 12:47:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA038872066; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:47:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07020; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:46:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 13 May 1997 12:38:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06251; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:38:28 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06241; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:38:20 -0400 Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04422; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:43:05 -0600 Message-Id: <33789974.2705CF4B@wwsi.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 10:40:20 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Cerys Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Dock I SCSI connector X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3.0.1.32.19970512235122.00f43f6c@zima.bbn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The DOCK I has a SCSI II connector on the back of it. Any standard SCSI II cable works. It's a weird Adaptec 152x compatible adapter, BTW. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 13 13:44:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA056435458; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:44:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12912; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:40:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 13 May 1997 13:39:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12620; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:39:25 -0400 Received: from netcom4.netcom.com (root@netcom4.netcom.com [192.100.81.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12572; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:39:01 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom4.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id KAA29948; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:22:30 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 10:22:30 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199705131722.KAA29948@netcom4.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: dock 1 scsi connector Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You need a special cable, I don't remember the place where I got mine but it was $30 or so. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 13 15:55:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA098333333; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:55:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27740; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:53:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 13 May 1997 15:51:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27427; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:51:10 -0400 Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (brickbat9.mindspring.com [207.69.200.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27397; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:51:00 -0400 Received: from .mindspring.com (ip10.van-nuys3.ca.pub-ip.psi.net [38.29.12.10]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20688 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:47:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 97 12:49:53 PDT From: Fred Peters Subject: Dock I connector To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is the same connector IBM used for most of their PS/2 series computers. They don't use it anymore, but is still known as the IBM SCSI "computer to option" cable. Fred ------------------------------------- E-mail: Fred Peters ------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 13 16:08:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA102464109; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:08:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29303; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:07:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 13 May 1997 16:05:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29194; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:05:54 -0400 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29167; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:05:38 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id QAA25592 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3438; Tue, 13 May 97 16:00:27 -0700 Message-Id: <9705132300.AA3438@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 9887D90FC0F0B7A585256496006D481D; Tue, 13 May 97 16:00:26 EDT To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 13 May 97 15:57:22 EDT Subject: 365ed for sale X-Lotus-Type: Memo w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu 365ED, p100, 32/810, usr28.8, 10.5 active, crystal audio. is $1300 too much to ask for this? Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I quote John Lennon: 'I don't believe in the Beatles. I just believe . in me'. He had a good point there. Of course, he was the Walrus. . I could be the Walrus, but I'd still have to bum rides off of people. . --Ferris Bueller . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 13 19:41:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA167686869; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:41:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16690; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:09:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 13 May 1997 19:07:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16543; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:07:02 -0400 Received: from mail13.digital.com (mail13.digital.com [192.208.46.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16526; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:06:56 -0400 Received: from pkohub1.athena.pko.dec.com by mail13.digital.com (8.7.5/UNX 1.5/1.0/WV) id SAA32554; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pkohub1.athena.pko.dec.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC5FA8.E2D22AA0@pkohub1.athena.pko.dec.com>; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:21:02 -0400 Message-Id: From: Gary Henry To: "'Steve Hultquist'" , "'Daniel Cerys'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Dock I SCSI connector Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:21:09 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Steve: I believe that you are wrong. I have both a DockII and a DOCK2 and the DOCK1 has a Strange IBM proprietary connector on the back of it. As for the inside of the machine, it also has a STRANGE connecter on the motherboard that that converts to a standard 50pin connector if you buy the $37 cable (Sorry I cannot find the cable number Buy the way, the Dock2 has a Future Domain controller in it while the DOCK2 has an Adaptec 1520 controller in it. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Steve Hultquist [SMTP:ssh@wwsi.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 1997 12:40 PM To: Daniel Cerys Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Dock I SCSI connector The DOCK I has a SCSI II connector on the back of it. Any standard SCSI II cable works. It's a weird Adaptec 152x compatible adapter, BTW. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 13 23:25:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA228600352; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:25:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06367; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:23:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 13 May 1997 23:22:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06201; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:22:11 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06122; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:22:04 -0400 Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07259; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:26:53 -0600 Message-Id: <33793056.DE7BDE28@wwsi.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 21:24:06 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Henry Cc: "'Daniel Cerys'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: Dock I SCSI connector X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You are right, of course. I misread the initial post and answered for a DOCK II. My apologies to all. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 01:41:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA267308487; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:41:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14494; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:40:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 01:39:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14363; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:39:01 -0400 Received: from lithsun.epfl.ch (root@lithsun.epfl.ch [128.178.72.19]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14347; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:38:54 -0400 Received: from lithsun14.epfl.ch (ballim@lithsun14.epfl.ch [128.178.72.37]) by lithsun.epfl.ch (8.8.5/8.8.0/EPFL-2.1/SERVER) with ESMTP id HAA18718 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:38:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: ballim@lith.di.epfl.ch (Afzal Ballim) Received: (from ballim@localhost) by lithsun14.epfl.ch (8.8.5/8.8.0/EPFL-2.1/CLIENT) id HAA02581 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:38:45 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:38:45 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199705140538.HAA02581@lithsun14.epfl.ch> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755CDV Lockup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: uOwLnxCx1eEtrv3n+uMx+g== Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I've suddenly started having problems with my 755CDV. I will, of course, call IBM service, however as they never sent me anything back when I sent in my registration card it may take me a while to find out where I should telephone. In the meantime I thought I'd ask around to find out if my problems are at all typical, so that I'll be better prepared when talking to the service guys. I have two major problems. The first came on suddenly. The machine refuses to recognise that PCMCIA cards are present. The self-test gives OK for the PCMCIA slot I (slot II is shaded out). I work under win95, so I re-installed the IBM PC Wizard, but still no luck. The second problem has come on slowly. The machien has started locking up. At first I thought it was problems of the applications or win95, now however the problem is easily reproduced. If, say, I turn the machine on and load media player with any old AVI, then let it play continuously, the machine will eventually lock up (after between one and two hours). The only way to reboot is to unplug the machine, and take out the battery. I suspect a problem of overheating. Anyway, any comments, hints or annecdotes would be appreciated. -Afzal From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 04:37:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA016619067; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:37:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29307; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:36:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 04:35:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29222; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:35:44 -0400 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29179; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:35:33 -0400 Received: from axel-tp (actually rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 14 May 1997 10:35:17 +0200 Received: by axel-tp with Microsoft Mail id <01BC6052.866FF440@axel-tp>; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:35:21 +0200 Message-Id: <01BC6052.866FF440@axel-tp> From: axel hartmann To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: again: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems (fwd) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:31:59 +0200 Encoding: 30 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi y'all, I just put the new driver on my system, win95sp1, and it _didn't_ solve the problem for me. I still get scrambled displays when a DOS-box first opens. I vaguely remember updating something pretty unconnected to the display when it went away last time around, but I believe that I already have all the fixes applied, so I don't know where to go from here... axel >[...] >>>> Ctrl-ENTER twice - expanding the dos window to full screen and then >>>> back. Something about setting the mode back rectifies the display >>>> aberration. >[...] >>Check out www.chips.com >>So far it's been working fine ... >[...] >You're talking about file name WIN95141.ZIP dated 3/25/97, size 75K, >DirectX 3.0, correct? ...................................................................... Axel Hartmann . Paper : Blumenstr. 15; 76133 Karlsruhe; Germany . Voice : [0|xx49] 721 - 27115 . E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . ...................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 06:26:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA043405610; Wed, 14 May 1997 06:26:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12981; Wed, 14 May 1997 06:22:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 06:19:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12644; Wed, 14 May 1997 06:19:34 -0400 Received: from hkigw1.fin.kemira.com (kemira.com [137.33.1.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12627; Wed, 14 May 1997 06:19:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199705141019.GAA12627@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from hkipivdo.fin.kemira.com by hkigw1.fin.kemira.com with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA03652; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:17:58 +0200 From: Dominique Pivard Date: Wed, 14 May 97 13:10:56 +0300 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: current price of 32 & 64 MB for TP560 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.28 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I'm currently contemplating the purchase of a TP560 and would like to expand its RAM to either 40 MB or 72 MB. What is the street price for 32 MB and 64 MB modules in the U.S. right now? I have been quoted FIM 1580 excl. VAT ($310) and FIM 4250 ($830) for 32 and 64 MB respectively, and I feel this is a little bit on the high side. Thanks, -- Dominique ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 10:53:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA112231621; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:53:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07009; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:52:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 10:49:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06453; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:49:34 -0400 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@morgana.punk.net [204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06414; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:49:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA09845; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:50:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: Dominique Pivard Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: current price of 32 & 64 MB for TP560 In-Reply-To: <199705141019.GAA12627@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 14 May 1997, Dominique Pivard wrote: > I'm currently contemplating the purchase of a TP560 and would like to > expand its RAM to either 40 MB or 72 MB. What is the street price for 32 > MB and 64 MB modules in the U.S. right now? > > I have been quoted FIM 1580 excl. VAT ($310) and FIM 4250 ($830) for 32 > and 64 MB respectively, and I feel this is a little bit on the high side. The best street price I've found for a 32MB TP560 module was $205 USD. I bought one and it worked [and is still working] fine. It was a place that had it on sale [for 3 weeks] and I don't think that price is valid anymore. The typical good street price barely seems to make it under $300 for a 32MB module from what I've seen. Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 11:22:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA121133351; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:22:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10267; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:20:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 11:18:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09960; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:18:52 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09938; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:18:44 -0400 Received: from mypc.usc.edu (comserv-g-42.usc.edu [128.125.223.186]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id IAA01419; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970514075148.017074d8@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:18:53 -0700 To: Dominique Pivard From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: current price of 32 & 64 MB for TP560 Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:10 PM 5/14/97 +0300, Dominique Pivard wrote: >I'm currently contemplating the purchase of a TP560 and would like to >expand its RAM to either 40 MB or 72 MB. What is the street price for 32 >MB and 64 MB modules in the U.S. right now? > >I have been quoted FIM 1580 excl. VAT ($310) and FIM 4250 ($830) for 32 >and 64 MB respectively, and I feel this is a little bit on the high side. One person on the list (I forget who--perhaps he'll speak up) pointed me to a place in the San Francisco Bay area (I think it was located in San Jose) that sells a 32 MB module for the 560's (and some 365 model, as well as the 760ED) for something like $205. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 11:59:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA133245574; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:59:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14995; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:57:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 11:55:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14616; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:55:14 -0400 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@morgana.punk.net [204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14577; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:55:04 -0400 Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA09933; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:56:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: Randal Whittle Cc: Dominique Pivard , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: current price of 32 & 64 MB for TP560 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970514082039.0170c194@scf.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 14 May 1997, Randal Whittle wrote: > Steve, that price *is* still good (at least it was 4 weeks ago when I > bought one). Apparently, its not a "sale", it was the regular price. The > firm manufactures the module themselves and thus have less overhead. Well, if anyone wants to try to get one the info is as follows.. Name: T-Zone Phone #: 1-888-990-0663 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10732; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:22:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 11:19:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10058; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:19:27 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10035; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:19:20 -0400 Received: from mypc.usc.edu (comserv-g-42.usc.edu [128.125.223.186]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id IAA01707; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970514082039.0170c194@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:20:46 -0700 To: Steve Parker From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: current price of 32 & 64 MB for TP560 Cc: Dominique Pivard , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 07:50 AM 5/14/97 -0700, Steve Parker wrote: > >On Wed, 14 May 1997, Dominique Pivard wrote: >> I'm currently contemplating the purchase of a TP560 and would like to >> expand its RAM to either 40 MB or 72 MB. What is the street price for 32 >> MB and 64 MB modules in the U.S. right now? >> >> I have been quoted FIM 1580 excl. VAT ($310) and FIM 4250 ($830) for 32 >> and 64 MB respectively, and I feel this is a little bit on the high side. > > The best street price I've found for a 32MB TP560 module was $205 USD. >I bought one and it worked [and is still working] fine. It was a place >that had it on sale [for 3 weeks] and I don't think that price is valid >anymore. Yes, it was Steve Parker that told me about it! :-) Steve, that price *is* still good (at least it was 4 weeks ago when I bought one). Apparently, its not a "sale", it was the regular price. The firm manufactures the module themselves and thus have less overhead. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 13:48:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA167582115; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:48:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26139; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:46:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 13:44:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25922; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:44:45 -0400 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25912; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:44:39 -0400 Received: from smtpgtwy.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA03722 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:44:04 GMT Received: from ccMail by smtpgtwy.teamquest.com (ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02) id AA863631958; Wed, 14 May 97 12:46:01 -0600 Message-Id: <9705148636.AA863631958@smtpgtwy.teamquest.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Wed, 14 May 97 12:43:48 -0600 From: "Eric M. Rust" To: Subject: ThinkPad AC power adapters. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know if you can swap ac adapters between ThinkPads? I see the new one for a 760E says it's rated as follows: Input:100-240v 1.0a-.55a, 50-60hz Output:16v 2.2a ......and the one I would like to use from an older 755 ThinkPad is rated as follows: Input:100-240v 1.1a-.56a 50-60hz Output:20-10v 2.2a-3.38a The plugs are the same. Do I dare? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 14:03:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA173222984; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:03:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27536; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:00:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 13:59:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27358; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:59:23 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27348; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:59:18 -0400 Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10358; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:04:08 -0600 Message-Id: <3379FDEF.C81C9A60@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:01:19 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Eric M. Rust" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad AC power adapters. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <9705148636.AA863631958@smtpgtwy.teamquest.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Eric M. Rust wrote: > Does anyone know if you can swap ac adapters between ThinkPads? I see the new > one for a 760E says it's rated as follows: > > Input:100-240v 1.0a-.55a, 50-60hz > Output:16v 2.2a > > ......and the one I would like to use from an older 755 ThinkPad is rated as > follows: > > Input:100-240v 1.1a-.56a 50-60hz > Output:20-10v 2.2a-3.38a I have done this. However, the LCD flickered with the other adapter, so I stopped using it. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 14:07:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA174543263; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:07:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28401; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:06:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 14:05:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28201; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:05:20 -0400 Received: from fw3x.oxy.com (firewall-user@vqgjx.oxy.com [199.248.165.204]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28172; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:05:12 -0400 From: Received: by fw3x.oxy.com; id NAA10072; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:04:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from oxymail.oxy.com(155.224.11.33) by fw3x.oxy.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma009981; Wed, 14 May 97 13:04:30 -0500 Received: from ccMail by oxymail.oxy.com (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 (Gold Candidate) Enterprise) id 00091564; Wed, 14 May 97 12:58:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 11:00:16 -0500 Message-Id: <00091564.1239@oxy.com> Subject: Re: ThinkPad AC power adapters. To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've been swapping adapters for years between 750/755/760 models in my department. No problems encountered. Anita ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: ThinkPad AC power adapters. Author: "Eric M. Rust" at internetoxy Date: 5/14/97 12:43 PM Does anyone know if you can swap ac adapters between ThinkPads? I see the new one for a 760E says it's rated as follows: Input:100-240v 1.0a-.55a, 50-60hz Output:16v 2.2a ......and the one I would like to use from an older 755 ThinkPad is rated as follows: Input:100-240v 1.1a-.56a 50-60hz Output:20-10v 2.2a-3.38a The plugs are the same. Do I dare? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 14:32:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA182814724; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:32:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21095; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:48:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 12:41:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20409; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:41:38 -0400 Received: from netcom8.netcom.com (phr@netcom8.netcom.com [192.100.81.117]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20381; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:41:32 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA00969; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:41:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:41:25 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199705141641.JAA00969@netcom8.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: weird stuff vs. t-zone Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yes it's correct, T-zone is in Weird Stuff's old building. T-zone has its own kind of weirdness (it's the only US store of a big Japanese chain) but it's a very good store. I don't miss Weird Stuff much. Most of the stuff there was too old and clunky to be interesting. There is still Action Computers/ Surplus across the street and Curtis Trading in Milpitas, and another big place like that up towards the SF airport. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 15:20:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA197297645; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:20:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06780; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:18:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 15:16:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06397; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:16:46 -0400 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06352; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:16:33 -0400 Received: from CLAUDIA ([129.126.232.4]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA25763 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 14 May 1997 15:14:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199705141914.AA25763@kodakr.kodak.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:06:00 -0400 From: "King, Randall" Subject: Re: ThinkPad AC power adapters. To: thinkpad X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Ditto here. I just loaded some 760ED's last week, and I was using (gasp!) 700 adapters in them. They all seemed to work fine. I would not recommend using them for long term use (the batteries will probably go bad fairly quickly), but if just need to plug in to work, I say go for it. Funny story from IBM. One of our ordering people was trying to get replacement batteries for some 750's. IBM said to use the ones from the 755's we have. We argued with them that they were the wrong shape, and had different connectors. They still held that they were the same. We finally won the arguement. I took a battery from a 750, and one from a 755, layed them in a copier, and made a photocopy of them. Then I faxed the order for the new batteries and the photocopy to the manager I was arguing with. He said 'Oh, those batteries!'. Not the sharpest crayon in the box. RK ---------- >From: Anita_Goswami >To: thinkpad >Subject: Re: ThinkPad AC power adapters. >Date: Wednesday, May 14, 1997 11:00AM > > I've been swapping adapters for years between 750/755/760 models in my > department. No problems encountered. > > Anita > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: ThinkPad AC power adapters. >Author: "Eric M. Rust" at internetoxy >Date: 5/14/97 12:43 PM > > > > Does anyone know if you can swap ac adapters between ThinkPads? I see the >new > one for a 760E says it's rated as follows: > > Input:100-240v 1.0a-.55a, 50-60hz > Output:16v 2.2a > > ......and the one I would like to use from an older 755 ThinkPad is rated as > follows: > > Input:100-240v 1.1a-.56a 50-60hz > Output:20-10v 2.2a-3.38a > > > The plugs are the same. > > Do I dare? > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 15:46:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA205109186; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:46:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09665; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:44:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 15:42:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09355; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:42:34 -0400 Received: from suntan.tandem.com (suntan.tandem.com [192.216.221.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09336; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:42:23 -0400 Received: from adm.loc201.tandem.com by suntan.tandem.com (8.6.12/suntan5.970212) for id MAA10207; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:42:19 -0700 Received: from marmoset.loc201.tandem.com by adm.loc201.tandem.com (4.1/6main.940209) id AA19916; Wed, 14 May 97 12:42:18 PDT Received: by marmoset.loc201.tandem.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC6064.19BD6550@marmoset.loc201.tandem.com>; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:41:10 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC6064.19BD6550@marmoset.loc201.tandem.com> From: Chris DiBona To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: weird stuff vs. t-zone Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:41:09 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What's really weird (no pun intended) is goinf from Fry's across the = street to T-zone, I mean frys is frys, but tzone is so much cleaner and = nicer. And being able to check out the little Toshiba Libretto is = groovy. (2lb p75=20 color laptop the size of a bulky vcr tape.) Weird stuff, by the way is still in existance, so there is no reason to = miss it, try thier web site at : http://www.wierdstuff.com I wasn't so impressed when I checked them out, = but they have bidding on lots every tuesday, so I was thinking aobut = checking that out. But that's not why I'm writing this, if you are in the area, HSC near = the central expressway is a very groovy place to get both the surplussy = stuff you had at weird stuff and more modern and new components. I = thought you'd like to know.=20 Chris DiBona -----Original Message----- From: Paul Rubin [SMTP:phr@netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 1997 9:41 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: weird stuff vs. t-zone Yes it's correct, T-zone is in Weird Stuff's old building. T-zone has its own kind of weirdness (it's the only US store of a big Japanese chain) but it's a very good store. I don't miss Weird Stuff much. Most of the stuff there was too old and clunky to be interesting. There is still Action Computers/ Surplus across the street and Curtis Trading in Milpitas, and another big place like that up towards the SF airport. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 17:57:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA244677022; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:57:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23608; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:55:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 17:53:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23267; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:53:15 -0400 Received: from borg.mindspring.com (borg.mindspring.com [204.180.128.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23257; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:53:11 -0400 Received: from jschwartz (user-37kb947.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.135]) by borg.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA28818; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:52:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970514175214.0092d330@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jeffsnc@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:52:14 -0400 To: "Eric M. Rust", From: Jeffrey Schwartz Subject: Re: ThinkPad AC power adapters. In-Reply-To: <9705148636.AA863631958@smtpgtwy.teamquest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yes At 12:43 PM 5/14/97 -0600, Eric M. Rust wrote: > > Does anyone know if you can swap ac adapters between ThinkPads? I see the new > one for a 760E says it's rated as follows: > > Input:100-240v 1.0a-.55a, 50-60hz > Output:16v 2.2a > > ......and the one I would like to use from an older 755 ThinkPad is rated as > follows: > > Input:100-240v 1.1a-.56a 50-60hz > Output:20-10v 2.2a-3.38a > > > The plugs are the same. > > Do I dare? > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 20:22:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA285725740; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:22:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03798; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:18:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 20:14:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03548; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:14:04 -0400 Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03536; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:13:59 -0400 Received: from ibm ([207.147.141.181]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAA8964 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 00:13:25 +0000 From: "Ken" <97Pony@worldnet.att.net> To: "ThinkPad Group" Subject: TP 365XD questions Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:13:30 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970515001323.AAA8964@ibm> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greetings, all, from the glorious Pacific Northwest!! (It's not raining today!!) A couple of questions: Recent, and permanent, marital strife has caused me to forsake my old Compaq P75 desktop and depend solely on my TP365XD (P120, etc) + IBM G50 monitor. No problem at all -- works terrific. But I was wondering if I should remove the battery as this is essentially functioning as a "desktop" model now and I always use the AC adapter. I have the standard IBM battery -- I think it's NiMH. Second, rather unrelated question, I have been looking at scanners as I may be entering the internet publishing business with a photog friend of mine. All of his photos are slides, not pix. So far, I haven't found a scanner that reads slides. Is there such a puppy? Maybe use a service bureau of some sort? Costs? Any help or ideas will be greatly appreciated!! Thanks in advance Ken 97Pony@worldnet.att.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 14 23:11:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA034185881; Wed, 14 May 1997 23:11:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16227; Wed, 14 May 1997 23:09:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 14 May 1997 23:06:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15955; Wed, 14 May 1997 23:06:18 -0400 Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15940; Wed, 14 May 1997 23:06:13 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA06656; Wed, 14 May 1997 23:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19953; Wed, 14 May 97 23:11:46 EDT Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 23:11:45 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@mak To: Ken <97Pony@worldnet.att.net> Cc: ThinkPad Group Subject: Re: TP 365XD questions In-Reply-To: <19970515001323.AAA8964@ibm> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 14 May 1997, Ken wrote: > Second, rather unrelated question, I have been looking at scanners as I may > be entering the internet publishing business with a photog friend of mine. > All of his photos are slides, not pix. So far, I haven't found a scanner > that reads slides. Is there such a puppy? Maybe use a service bureau of > some sort? Costs? Any help or ideas will be greatly appreciated!! You're looking for a slide scanner. The Nikon SuperCoolscan is recommended by a lot of photographers/graphics artists. But if you're at all serious about scanning, you're best off with Photo CD. ADI (www.adiweb.com) has the lowest prices of the pro labs ($2/scan, less in quantity). Go to http://photo.net/photo for lots of good info on photography, scanning, and web publishing. Good luck. -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 15 03:28:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA108971301; Thu, 15 May 1997 03:28:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02404; Thu, 15 May 1997 03:27:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 15 May 1997 03:25:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02149; Thu, 15 May 1997 03:25:10 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02129; Thu, 15 May 1997 03:25:04 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA12493; Wed, 14 May 97 21:25:01 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA15233; Wed, 14 May 1997 21:25:56 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199705150725.VAA15233@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: TP 365XD questions To: 97Pony@worldnet.att.net (Ken) Date: Wed, 14 May 97 21:25:54 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <19970515001323.AAA8964@ibm>; from "Ken" at May 14, 97 5:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > All of his photos are slides, not pix. So far, I haven't found a scanner > that reads slides. You're looking at the wrong kind of stores/magazines. Most of the big ad spreads in the photo magazines (Popular Photography, Peterson's Photographic, etc) have ads for slide scanners. (For example, look at the B&H ads.) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 15 04:03:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA117423405; Thu, 15 May 1997 04:03:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05165; Thu, 15 May 1997 03:57:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 15 May 1997 03:56:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05004; Thu, 15 May 1997 03:56:20 -0400 Received: from smtp1.worldnow.com ([208.142.208.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04982; Thu, 15 May 1997 03:56:15 -0400 Received: from [208.154.130.11] by smtp1.worldnow.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id A2935F60064; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:00:19 -0600 Received: from [205.218.33.41] by mail.sisna.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id A170D8A01C4; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:55:28 -0600 Message-Id: <337AC1A3.3A9D@propilot.com> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 01:56:20 -0600 From: "Don B Rich, Jr" Reply-To: don@propilot.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad List Subject: 701 sound Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi All Help, I installed Win 95 on my butterfly and now I have lost my sound on the internal speaker. If I plug in a headset I have sound externally. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks Don From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 15 04:13:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA120034017; Thu, 15 May 1997 04:13:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06436; Thu, 15 May 1997 04:07:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 15 May 1997 04:05:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06195; Thu, 15 May 1997 04:05:56 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06166; Thu, 15 May 1997 04:05:48 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA12603; Wed, 14 May 97 22:05:46 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA15281; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:06:42 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199705150806.WAA15281@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: 701 sound To: don@propilot.com Date: Wed, 14 May 97 22:06:41 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <337AC1A3.3A9D@propilot.com>; from "Don B Rich, Jr" at May 15, 97 1:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Hi All > Help, I installed Win 95 on my butterfly and now I have lost my sound on > the internal speaker. If I plug in a headset I have sound externally. This sounds like a mechanical problem; for example, the headset plug might not be closing properly when the set is removed. It is extremely unlikely that W95 installation had anything to do with it - a coincidence. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 15 05:22:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA135318173; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:22:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA13929; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:20:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 15 May 1997 05:17:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA12892; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:17:53 -0400 Received: from mail.physics.ox.ac.uk (mail.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.244.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA12857; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:17:46 -0400 Received: from pc138.physics.ox.ac.uk (pc138.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.240.208]) by mail.physics.ox.ac.uk id KAA24088 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:17:43 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199705150917.KAA24088@mail.physics.ox.ac.uk> From: "Geoff Hogan" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 15 May 97 10:17:45 Reply-To: "Geoff Hogan" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 365XD questions - batteries Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 14 May 1997 17:13:30 -0700, Ken wrote: >monitor. No problem at all -- works terrific. But I was wondering if I >should remove the battery as this is essentially functioning as a "desktop" >model now and I always use the AC adapter. I have the standard IBM battery >-- I think it's NiMH. I'm not sure on the details of the charging protocol of the 365XD, but with the older ThinkPads I understand that the best thing is to discharge the battery down to a very low residual charge and remove it. Don't try and store it charged or it will self discharge (NiMH do this much faster than NiCd) which causes damage to the plates. That is my understanding, however there may be others out there who have a better knowledge of the IBM implementations. My main reason for replying, I have to confess, is to ask the same question re Li ion batteries under the same conditions - should they be removed, and if so in what state of charge? Full, empty, or low residual? Geoff --------------------------------------------------------------- Dr G P Hogan Laser Group, Clarendon Lab., Tel: +44 1865 272205 Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PU Fax: +44 1865 272400 UK Email: g.hogan@physics.ox.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 15 09:46:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA250243979; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:46:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06485; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:45:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 15 May 1997 09:43:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06165; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:43:05 -0400 Received: from brickell.bridge.net (root@brickell.bridge.net [204.253.4.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06146; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:42:55 -0400 Received: from ppp-mia1-61.bridge.net (ppp-mia1-61.bridge.net [207.16.5.61]) by brickell.bridge.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA03016 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:42:51 -0400 Received: by ppp-mia1-61.bridge.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC6114.391A5B00@ppp-mia1-61.bridge.net>; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:41:54 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC6114.391A5B00@ppp-mia1-61.bridge.net> From: "Geovanny M. Ortiz" To: "'Thinkpad Mail list'" Subject: Number pad Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 09:24:17 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know if there is a number pad from IBM for the 701CS that = doesn't attach to the serial port? I'm an accountant and I need a = number pad. Thank you in advance for your responses. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 15 10:25:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA270836319; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:25:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10773; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:24:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 15 May 1997 10:23:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10511; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:23:05 -0400 Received: from siva.captech.com (siva.captech.com [207.33.153.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10501; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:22:59 -0400 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by siva.captech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA26026; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:22:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kensey Corp." Message-Id: <199705151422.HAA26026@siva.captech.com> Subject: Re: 701 sound To: don@propilot.com Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 07:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <337AC1A3.3A9D@propilot.com> from "Don B Rich, Jr" at May 15, 97 01:56:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu you may want to play a .wav file to see if its not your headphones. you can to do this with the 'Media Player' under accessories. if that doesnt play sound, i'd reinstall mwave DSP. do mwave DSP for dos first, then mwave DSP for windows 95 next. if you dont have this on floppy, download them from the ftp site. this is what i did in a similar situation and it fixed it. doug > > Hi All > Help, I installed Win 95 on my butterfly and now I have lost my sound on > the internal speaker. If I plug in a headset I have sound externally. > Any assistance would be appreciated. > Thanks Don > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 15 20:28:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA101532517; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:28:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02430; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:27:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 15 May 1997 20:22:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01971; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:22:08 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01954; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:22:02 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-h-38.usc.edu [128.125.224.38]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id RAA16386 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 17:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970515171823.006d04a0@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 17:23:42 -0700 To: TP List From: Randy Whittle Subject: "Drive Copy" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all, I just stumbled across the following product advertisement and looked at their website. I have NOT yet used it, but I did order it and presume it will be promising for those of us who will be swapping a hard drive and doing some rather painful copying/upgrading of drives. Everyone knows I'm already a big fan of PowerQuest's "Partition Magic" and this "Drive Copy" product looks like another home run--and for $30. You can get the details from their Web Site at: http://www.powerquest.com Meanwhile, here's a blurb on the product from their site: Product Info Make a Purchase Why Partition? What's New PowerQuest Corp. Awards & Reviews International Support Download Updates Register Search =20 For Immediate Release Contact: PowerQuest Corp. 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Plus nearly all software packages are increasing their disk space requirements with each new release, so a 500MB-1GB hard drive is quickly filling up.=20 "But users have spent many hours configuring their existing drive until it=92s just the way they want it. How to get that configuration from the old drive to the new one was a headache. With DriveCopy, it=92s simple." Some new drive owners have gotten up with the chickens to start inserting diskettes and CDs in their new drive to reinstall applications, then spent hours transferring files. Others have paid professionals to switch drives for them, paying as much as $100. DriveCopy will replace those hours with minutes and will have an estimated street price of $29.95. Projected release date is March 31, 1997.=20 DriveCopy is the second product from PowerQuest which began shipping its award-winning software, PartitionMagic, in 1995. Now in its third release, PartitionMagic is the first software that allows computer users to create, resize, move, and delete hard disk partitions on the fly without destroying data.=20 For more information, see PowerQuest=92s home page at http://www.powerquest.com, call (800)379-2566, or send email to magic@powerquest.com. Specific information about DriveCopy will be available on the home page towards the end of March.=20 =20 Copyright =A91997, by PowerQuest Corporation ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC = http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 15 23:51:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA252604680; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:51:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15528; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:50:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 15 May 1997 23:49:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15226; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:49:02 -0400 Received: from umunhum.Stanford.EDU (Umunhum.Stanford.EDU [171.64.74.80]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15216; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:48:58 -0400 Received: (from kevin@localhost) by umunhum.Stanford.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA23715 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:49:06 -0700 From: "Kevin W. Rudd" Message-Id: <199705160349.UAA23715@umunhum.Stanford.EDU> Subject: finally! thinkpad 365xd in hand, now i have questions: To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:49:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu [after two prior aborted attempts to get it through domestic purchasing, i was finally able to "walk through" the order!] first impressions: it isn't a macintosh (no surprise) nor is it unix (but both could change, right???). biggest disappointment: the day it arrived, ibm announced the 380/385 products (it figures---but the price point was still unbeatable on the 365xd). i didn't see anything major on this topic in the more recent archives and thought that i'd ask and see if anyone out there had answers or possible suggestions. if these are faq's and i've missed them in the archives somewhere, my apologies in advance. now for the questions: * it appears (read: looks like) that the hard disk is a standard and non-encased 2.5" drive. is it possible to put a bigger "standard" drive in the machine (for example, fry's, for all of their many faults, had a 2.1GB drive for the mid-to-upper $300's that looked like a possibility---much cheaper than the mid-to-upper $700's that i saw on the pc-zone price list for 1.08GB...). * is the floppy disk/cd-rom port in the left drive bay a standard port that could conceivably support a hard disk with appropriate hardware? if so, could the cd-rom be used with the external cable/connector? * is there any chance that a second battery could be wired in to the left drive bay (with appropriate concern for the charging problems)? i'm trying to figure out a way to use the beast as a linux box without ruining its utility as the only pc in the house for those rare occaisions when i might want to run something on a non-macintosh or non-unix machine. it seems to be quite a problem with the 810MB drive as i can easily fill that with stuff on any of my other machines.... anyway, it's nice to actually have one of these and be subscribed to the list at the same time for a change! cheers, ---K From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 16 10:53:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA129954412; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:53:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07497; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:52:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 16 May 1997 10:49:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06973; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:49:43 -0400 Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net (denmark-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06957; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:49:35 -0400 Received: from pool063-max3.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool063-max3.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.8.138]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA28204 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705161449.HAA28204@denmark.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 27 Apr 97 16:23:57 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Replacing the 701 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anybody know of a store or place where a user can trade in a used 701 for another used ThinkPad, with similar or better hardware without having to pay too much more? Although I like my 701, I would rather have a ThinkPad without the folding keyboard. The keyboard has put a lot of stress on the hinges, and the left hinge is already broken, so all the support is from the right hinge and the ends. And I also like the keyboard feel of the regular ThinkPad keyboards. Any help is appreciated. Also, does anybody know how to make the internal 701modem, or any of IBM's other PCMCIA modems (any speed) setup on "leased line" modem, so I can sort-of network it to my other machines? I have four other machines that I need to share information with. Thanks for your help. Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 16 14:03:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA186915821; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:03:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19585; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:18:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 16 May 1997 13:15:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19434; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:15:48 -0400 Received: from ltcm.com (ltcm.com [207.204.140.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19400; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:15:39 -0400 Received: by ltcm.com (8.7.1/1.32(sec)-LK3) id AA18317; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:10:17 -0400 >Received: from rs02.ltcm by ltcm.com (8.7.1/1.32(sec)-LK3) id MAA08201; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:52:33 -0400 Received: from rs02.ltcm by ltcm.com (8.7.1/1.32(sec)-LK3) id MAA08201; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:52:33 -0400 Received: from rs02 by rs02.ltcm (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA06172; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:52:20 -0400 Sender: jduran@ltcm.com Message-Id: <337C90C4.7C517008@ltcm.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 12:52:20 -0400 From: Jason Duran Reply-To: jduran@ltcm.com Organization: Long Term Capital Management X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3C (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4u) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 64 MB DIMM X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It appears that the new 380 accepts 64 MB DIMMs. Does anyone know anything about these ? Are they compatible for use with any other thinkpads ? --Jason Duran From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 16 14:10:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA189166217; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:10:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18882; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:10:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 16 May 1997 13:07:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18448; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:07:17 -0400 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18437; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:07:02 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id KAA25864; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hi-av1.cadence.com(158.140.128.31) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma863802416.025861; Fri May 16 10:06:57 1997 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (sj4a-22.cadence.com [158.140.31.32]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22690; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 10:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705161706.KAA22690@mailhub.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Paul Khoury" From: Don Perley Subject: Re: Replacing the 701 Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 04:23 PM 4/27/97, Paul Khoury wrote: >Does anybody know of a store or place where a user can trade in a used 701 for another used ThinkPad, >with similar or better hardware without having to pay too much more? Although I like my 701, I would rather >have a ThinkPad without the folding keyboard. The keyboard has put a lot of stress on the hinges, and the >left hinge is already broken, so all the support is from the right hinge and the ends. So, you want trade not just a used, but a *broken* 701 in on a better machine without kicking in much cash? Good luck. I suggest you try getting the hinge fixed under warrantee before trying to trade it in. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 16 14:11:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA189466283; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:11:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23512; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:10:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 16 May 1997 14:08:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23298; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:08:30 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23281; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:08:20 -0400 Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA23538; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:13:14 -0600 Message-Id: <337CA305.4DEF5DBA@wwsi.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 12:10:13 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: jduran@ltcm.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 64 MB DIMM X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <337C90C4.7C517008@ltcm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Jason Duran wrote: > It appears that the new 380 accepts 64 MB DIMMs. > > Does anyone know anything about these ? Are they > compatible for use with any other thinkpads ? I don't know about the 380, but I just put a 64M DIMM into my 760XD. They look just like any of the DIMMs that you may have seen for the other 760s (although I note that the XD has a better design with the memory located under the hard drive instead of behind an exterior panel). On the XD you actually have to disable 8MB of on-board memory to get the 64M DIMM to work. Hence, I have 88MB working, although I really have 96MB that I should be able to use. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 16 19:22:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA027494922; Fri, 16 May 1997 19:22:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17370; Fri, 16 May 1997 19:21:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 16 May 1997 19:19:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17153; Fri, 16 May 1997 19:19:43 -0400 Received: from beta.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.143]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17143; Fri, 16 May 1997 19:19:39 -0400 Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.5/) with ESMTP id SAA29374; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:19:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gginsberg.cs.mci.com ([166.32.99.27]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.5/) with SMTP id TAA16714; Fri, 16 May 1997 19:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 16 May 1997 19:19:10 -0400 Message-Id: From: Gregg Ginsberg To: "'jduran@ltcm.com'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: 64 MB DIMM Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 19:20:42 -0400 Organization: executiveONE R&D X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4025 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu According to IBM, all current TP's are using the same DIMMS....the 560, 760, 365, 380. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Duran [SMTP:jduran@ltcm.com] Sent: Friday, May 16, 1997 12:52 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 64 MB DIMM It appears that the new 380 accepts 64 MB DIMMs. Does anyone know anything about these ? Are they compatible for use with any other thinkpads ? --Jason Duran From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 17 09:31:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA245305886; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:31:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15972; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:26:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 17 May 1997 09:23:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15700; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:23:44 -0400 Received: from cyberplus.ca (cyberplus.ca [204.191.105.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15690; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:23:40 -0400 Received: from host ([204.191.105.105]) by cyberplus.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA28888; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:23:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705171323.JAA28888@cyberplus.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc. To: "Dan Miles" Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 09:22:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems Reply-To: tom@act.ca Cc: Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <19970503230038.AAA21595@miles> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On 3 May 97 at 15:55, Dan Miles wrote: Thanks for the work-around & the solution. I didn't think that the SP 2 was out yet. I'll check the MS site. Thanks, Tom > ---------- > > From: David Ross > > To: tom@act.ca > > Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Re: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems > > Date: Tuesday, April 29, 1997 8:37 PM > > > > > I can't seem to get the display right for win95 & 16 bit colour on my > > > 701. It often (especially when I start a windowed MS-DOS session) > > > causes blurring & a ghost effect - Everything is doubled, sideways > > > about 2 cm > > I used to have this problem when I had win95 service pack 1 > installed. I never did solve it (for this version of win95 anyway, > see below), but there is a workaround for the DOS window problem. > After the window is open and the screen is blurred, open the bios > screen Fn-F1, then hit Esc to get back to windows. It always > cleared up the problem. > > I currently have win95 service pack 2 installed and I haven't had > the blurring problem at all. I didn't do anything special except > start with a clean disk and install. > > Good luck. Dan Miles > > Thanks, Tom _________________ Tom Trottier, tom@act.ca +1 613 594-4829 fax 594-8944 199 Holmwood Ave Ottawa ON Canada K1S 2P3 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 17 12:09:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA282805382; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:09:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24948; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:04:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 17 May 1997 12:01:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24832; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:01:40 -0400 Received: from callisto.si.usherb.ca (callisto.si.USherb.ca [132.210.10.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24812; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:01:35 -0400 Received: from 17-0025.Residence.usherb.ca by callisto.si.usherb.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA64526; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:57:48 -0400 Received: by 17-0025.residence.usherb.ca with Microsoft Mail id <01BC62BA.12655080@17-0025.residence.usherb.ca>; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:01:37 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC62BA.12655080@17-0025.residence.usherb.ca> From: Fabian Rodriguez Cc: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 12:01:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Gwo? Let me know if SP2 is and where it is... didnt find it.. ---------- From: Tom Trottier[SMTP:tom@act.ca] Sent: Saturday, May 17, 1997 4:22 AM To: Dan Miles Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems On 3 May 97 at 15:55, Dan Miles wrote: Thanks for the work-around & the solution. I didn't think that the SP 2 was out yet. I'll check the MS site. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 17 12:32:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA289186732; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:32:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26775; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:27:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 17 May 1997 12:25:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26616; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:25:11 -0400 Received: from netcom3.netcom.com (phr@netcom3.netcom.com [192.100.81.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26598; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:25:05 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom3.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA13661; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:25:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 09:25:02 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199705171625.JAA13661@netcom3.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 365xd vs 755cx Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I see 365xd's are being blown out for $1245 at pc-zone. I'm kind of tempted to get one to replace my 755cx. Does anyone know if they use the same ram cards? I have a 32 meg card in my 755cx that I'd like to keep using. Do the new 380 series have any significant advantages over the 365's? None of them have XGA, right?? Advantages of 365xd over 755cx: - internal cd-rom - Soundblaster compatible audio instead of MWave which needs special s/w - standard coaxial power plug, I've broken 3 of the stupid 4-pin 755 plugs - slightly faster cpu (no big deal) Disadvantages of 365xd vs 755cx: - doesn't use interchangeable HD's. Can you upgrade w/o voiding warranty? Also, can it hold a 19mm drive? - Comes with NiMH battery instead of Li Ion. Do I have this about right? Thanks... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 17 21:54:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA139270470; Sat, 17 May 1997 21:54:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00707; Sat, 17 May 1997 21:49:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 17 May 1997 21:46:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00212; Sat, 17 May 1997 21:46:14 -0400 Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00193; Sat, 17 May 1997 21:46:09 -0400 Received: from dach.demon.co.uk ([194.222.61.229]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa1009012; 18 May 97 2:34 BST Received: by dach.demon.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BC6333.E172A480@dach.demon.co.uk>; Sun, 18 May 1997 02:33:33 +0100 Message-Id: <01BC6333.E172A480@dach.demon.co.uk> From: Chris Alba To: "'Gregg Ginsberg'" , "'jduran@ltcm.com'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: 64 MB DIMM Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 02:32:15 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know if there are 3rd party / OEM TP compatible DIMMs and where you can get these in the UK? Thanks, Chris -----Original Message----- From: Gregg Ginsberg [SMTP:Gregg.Ginsberg@MCI.Com] Sent: Saturday, May 17, 1997 12:21 AM To: 'jduran@ltcm.com'; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: 64 MB DIMM According to IBM, all current TP's are using the same DIMMS....the 560, 760, 365, 380. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Duran [SMTP:jduran@ltcm.com] Sent: Friday, May 16, 1997 12:52 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 64 MB DIMM It appears that the new 380 accepts 64 MB DIMMs. Does anyone know anything about these ? Are they compatible for use with any other thinkpads ? --Jason Duran From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 18 01:13:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA191672410; Sun, 18 May 1997 01:13:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17088; Sun, 18 May 1997 01:08:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 18 May 1997 01:04:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16750; Sun, 18 May 1997 01:04:14 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16740; Sun, 18 May 1997 01:04:04 -0400 Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA30612; Sat, 17 May 1997 22:42:50 -0600 Message-Id: <337E880E.B30DF0B1@wwsi.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 22:39:42 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Alba Cc: "'Gregg Ginsberg'" , "'jduran@ltcm.com'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: 64 MB DIMM X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <01BC6333.E172A480@dach.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The one I bought is a Kingston. I can give you the US information, but have no idea how you might find them in the UK. Warning: They are new and *very* difficult to find. One of my associates spent three days on the phone until we found someone who not only claimed to have it but could actually ship it -- and the place we used is just down the street >from Kingston (lemme know if you want the contact information). -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 18 20:34:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA187602040; Sun, 18 May 1997 20:34:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25515; Sun, 18 May 1997 20:33:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 18 May 1997 20:30:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25197; Sun, 18 May 1997 20:30:22 -0400 Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25176; Sun, 18 May 1997 20:30:14 -0400 Received: from dach.demon.co.uk ([194.222.61.229]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa1021693; 18 May 97 23:48 BST Received: by dach.demon.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BC63E5.E5237CA0@dach.demon.co.uk>; Sun, 18 May 1997 23:47:50 +0100 Message-Id: <01BC63E5.E5237CA0@dach.demon.co.uk> From: Chris Alba To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Video Cam for 760CD Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 17:29:56 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Can anyone recommend a good, cheap, portable camera for videoconf, = CU-Seeme etc. (nothing rude!) which will work well with the TP760CD? = I've got a Connetix Colour Quickcam working on the "shared" desktop and = if that's the right answer I will just have to do some begging - I mean = negotiating. Anyone got any experience of this? Thanks in advance. Chris From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 19 09:43:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA111129433; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:43:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18318; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:41:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 19 May 1997 09:37:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17885; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:37:13 -0400 Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk ([129.12.21.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17863; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:36:54 -0400 Received: from stork.ukc.ac.uk by mercury.ukc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 19 May 1997 14:36:13 +0100 Received: from slip1d81.ukc.ac.uk by stork.ukc.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/UKC-2.14) id OAA29521; Mon, 19 May 1997 14:36:08 +0100 Message-Id: <338056F8.115B@ukc.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 14:34:48 +0100 From: "Angus F. Hewlett" Reply-To: afh1@ukc.ac.uk Organization: blah X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Rubin Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 365xd vs 755cx References: <199705171625.JAA13661@netcom3.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Out of interest, what CPU *is* in the 365xd? And are they really only $1245? Cheers, Angus Paul Rubin wrote: > > I see 365xd's are being blown out for $1245 at pc-zone. > I'm kind of tempted to get one to replace my 755cx. Does > anyone know if they use the same ram cards? I have a 32 meg > card in my 755cx that I'd like to keep using. > > Do the new 380 series have any significant advantages over the 365's? > None of them have XGA, right?? > > Advantages of 365xd over 755cx: > - internal cd-rom > - Soundblaster compatible audio instead of MWave which needs special s/w > - standard coaxial power plug, I've broken 3 of the stupid > 4-pin 755 plugs > - slightly faster cpu (no big deal) > Disadvantages of 365xd vs 755cx: > - doesn't use interchangeable HD's. Can you upgrade w/o voiding > warranty? Also, can it hold a 19mm drive? > - Comes with NiMH battery instead of Li Ion. > > Do I have this about right? > > Thanks... -- ---- _____ ------------------------------------------ -----/ __ | *** UKC Live Music Society *** --------- -----/ /_/ / _____ _____ _ _ __ ______ //---- -----/ __ / /__ / / ___/ / /// /_/ / __ ///---- -----/ / \ \ //_/ / / /__ / /|| / / / / / /------ -----/_/ \_\/____/ /____/ /_/ || /_/ /_/ /_/------ ------ http://merlin.ukc.ac.uk/cgi-bin/hpda/:afh1/ --- ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 19 10:02:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA116140567; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:02:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20209; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:00:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 19 May 1997 09:59:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19901; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:59:05 -0400 Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19890; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:59:01 -0400 Received: from pool020-max3.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool020-max3.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.8.95]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA24128 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 06:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705191358.GAA24128@sweden.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 19 May 96 06:55:18 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Overnight Easyserve Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone here done an overnight Easyserve? I decided that since I don't need my 701cs much this week, I would get it done now, and quickly. Does anyone have any expericances they could share on this? Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 19 10:36:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA126522610; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:36:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23404; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:34:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 19 May 1997 10:33:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23139; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:33:08 -0400 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23102; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:33:02 -0400 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA35488; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:30:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 10:30:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: Paul Khoury Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Overnight Easyserve In-Reply-To: <199705191358.GAA24128@sweden.it.earthlink.net> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If you want some extra eraserheads, put a note insside the box. Also if there's anything else you want fixed on it, also write that on a note inside the box. Very often at the easyserve center they will fix things that over the phone they say they will not fix. I got a new battery out of this once, and they fixed a screen that the people overr the phone swore would not be covered under the warranty (I convincced them to let me send it in for them to have a look at it and decide if it should be covered by the warranty oor not). Bottom line: it doesn't hurt to ask. On Sun, 19 May 1996, Paul Khoury wrote: > Has anyone here done an overnight Easyserve? I decided that since I don't need my 701cs much this week, > I would get it done now, and quickly. Does anyone have any expericances they could share on this? > > Regards, > > Paul Khoury > pkhoury@earthlink.net > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 19 10:47:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA130233269; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:47:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20932; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:05:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 19 May 1997 10:04:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20584; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:04:22 -0400 Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20574; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:04:16 -0400 Received: from pool020-max3.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool020-max3.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.8.95]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA25470 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 07:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705191404.HAA25470@sweden.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 19 May 96 07:00:34 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 Hard drive/caddy Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know where I can obtain a *cheap* hard drive and caddy for my 701? Anything over 200MB is okay, in fact, I'd even take a 170MB if someone had one that would fit into a 701 caddy. Any suggestions or pointers? I only have about 13MB left, so I'm not in a very good shape. Especially when online. Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 19 12:09:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA153588164; Mon, 19 May 1997 12:09:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03014; Mon, 19 May 1997 12:06:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 19 May 1997 12:02:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02474; Mon, 19 May 1997 12:02:18 -0400 Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu (merle.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02463; Mon, 19 May 1997 12:02:13 -0400 Received: from Bill Berry ([129.105.76.45]) by merle.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA003327728; Mon, 19 May 1997 11:02:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970519110201.006a6894@merle.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: bberry@merle.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 b2 (32) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:02:01 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Berry Subject: bad pixels on dual-scans? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I must be wrong, but I was under the impression that dual-scan displays didn't have the bad pixel problem. My ThinkPad 365XD has a white dot in the upper righthand quadrant. Yeah, I did the red, green, blue screen test I THOUGHT WAS ONLY FOR ACTIVE MATRIX and I got the white dot. Dang! I'm kinda disappointed. So, is it a bad pixel ala active matrix, or is something else going splooey? Your comments are appreciated. Bill Berry From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 19 13:31:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA180973089; Mon, 19 May 1997 13:31:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10357; Mon, 19 May 1997 13:28:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 19 May 1997 13:27:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10259; Mon, 19 May 1997 13:27:27 -0400 Received: from mailgate31 (mailgate31-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10236; Mon, 19 May 1997 13:27:20 -0400 Received: by mailgate31 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA17132; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:27:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199705191727.KAA17132@mailgate31> Received: from sdn-ts-001mdrelrp04.dialsprint.net(206.133.11.23) by mailfep4-hme1 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_10.1.1.10/Q_16122_1_33808cf0; Mon May 19 10:25:04 1997 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tony Staples" Organization: Motion Motorsports To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 13:29:56 -0004 Subject: Re: Overnight Easyserve Reply-To: tstaples@sprintmail.com Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <199705191358.GAA24128@sweden.it.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Has anyone here done an overnight Easyserve? I decided that since I don't need my 701cs much this week, > I would get it done now, and quickly. Does anyone have any expericances they could share on this? > Paul, I sent my wife's 755CD in for overnight repairs back in January. It had the dreaded 755 series "lockup after it gets hot" problem. I called on Mon. morning. Special shipping box arrived FedEx on Tuesday morning. ThinkPad went to Fed Ex Tuesday afternoon. ThinkPad arrived back to me Thursday morning, repaired with a new system board and video board. I also got several new parts not requested, such as bottom case half, and new trackpoint cat's tounge cover, and the latest bios revision. Unit has worked 100% perfect ever since. Needless to say, I'm very satisfied with the service. BTW, only send in the minimum number of parts required to replicate the problem. Don't send in anything extra like a PC Card modem, power brick, floppy, RAM cards, etc . . ., if it isn't part of the problem. Good luck. -Tony Staples tstaples@sprintmail.com "The problem with the average family today is that it's impossible to support it, and the government, on one income." From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 19 15:30:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA217770216; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:30:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20363; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:27:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 19 May 1997 15:25:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20150; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:25:40 -0400 Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net (germany-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.123]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20137; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:25:34 -0400 Received: from pool073-max6.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool073-max6.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.16.73]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA03569; Mon, 19 May 1997 12:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705191925.MAA03569@germany.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Daniel Hammett" Date: Sun, 19 May 96 12:21:49 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades for TP 750 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On 23 Apr 1997 07:22 EDT, Daniel Hammett wrote: >Folks, > >It's been a while since I saw this topic posted, and I am ever the >optimist. The question is fairly straight forward - does anyone know of >a CPU upgrade for the ThinkPad 750? The original CPU is a 486SL/33 and I >had heard that there was no upgrade path from SL parts. > >Are there no higher speed SL CPUs or did Intel only make the 33MHz >version? > >Thanks for any replies, > >Dan. > >*---------------------------------------------------------------* >| Dan Hammett - TN-16X Hardware Engineer | I believe that Intel only made the 486SL-25 & 33, and also had an SL series for the 386, but I think that's it. Upgrading any machine (with some exceptions on today's Pentiums) requires that the crystel match the speed of the processor, i.e. 25,50,75MHz=50MHz crystel, 33,66,100 (actually 99)MHz=33MHz, 20,40MHz=40MHz, etc. I have heard, however, in Play at Will, the new EZPLAY for OS/2 Warp, in the card compatibility list of an IBM Chip Upgrade, as noted below. PlayAtWill (*) PC Card(**) support ======================================= ...........blah, blah, blah..... CPU IBM ChipCard TC-100 3.0 Trademarks ---------------- The following terms, denoted by a double asterisk(**), are trademarks of o (blah, blah, blah...) IBM ThinkPad PlayAtWill PC Card Director And that's it. I have no idea if the card still exists or which machine it's intended for, but there's the information anyways. Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 19 15:41:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA222250891; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:41:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21793; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:38:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 19 May 1997 15:37:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21644; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:37:14 -0400 Received: from italy.it.earthlink.net (italy-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21594; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:36:50 -0400 Received: from pool073-max6.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool073-max6.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.16.73]) by italy.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA10729; Mon, 19 May 1997 12:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705191936.MAA10729@italy.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Steve Parker" Date: Sun, 19 May 96 12:32:38 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP560 vs TP701 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 16 May 1997 14:57:01 -0700 (PDT), Steve Parker wrote: > >On Sun, 27 Apr 1997, Paul Khoury wrote: > >> > I bought my machine used in January and think it is just great. The >> >12.1" TFT screen is great. The lame little IBM Home & Away 14.4 >> >modem/10bT Ethernet works fine in it. If you need ethernet, plus a spare >> >14.4 modem for $35 or so you can get them from Damark. >> > >> Just out of curiosity, how do you get the Home & Away adapter's network >> portion to work in OS/2, or any other OS? Thanks. > > It supposedly works in OS/2 without modification, and to get it to work >with Win95 you have to flash the modem code with a utility called >hawin95.exe which sets it up for Win95 only. It is rumored that even then >it will only work with the first release of Win95. I couldn't say for >sure one way or another. > > The utility is on this page.. > http://www.networking.ibm.com/nes/nespcmci.htm > > Which links you to here.. >ftp://ftp.networking.ibm.com/pub/products/lanprods/pcmcia/hawin95.exe > > It works for me in Win95. I haven't felt the need to try OS/2 on the >notebook, though I do use Warp 3.0 WC on the desktop. I also got another >H&A card to work on a Sharp 3040 for a friend. Good luck with it. It is >a pain, but worth it if you can get it to work.. =) > >Steve Would that possibly be the reason that the took it off the market was because it's a pain in the rear to install? It should at least have installations based on the Windows 95 GUI, OS/2 PM, etc., instead of just DOS text mode. I ran it in an OS/2 Window, and little did I know that the installation used extended graphics, so I had to close the program, and open up a full screen. Although it's reliable (as I type, it is connected to my ISP, because the internal one needs to be fixed by Easyserve tomorrow), I don't like the proprietary enablers, etc. But the one think that's good about it is IT'S CHEAP. That's why I bought it. Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 19 16:34:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA237604066; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:34:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26403; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:31:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 19 May 1997 16:29:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26190; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:29:29 -0400 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26180; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:29:24 -0400 Received: from cais.cais.com (rj@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/cais-andrew-jdf) with SMTP id QAA06049; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 16:29:19 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: Paul Khoury Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Overnight Easyserve In-Reply-To: <199705191358.GAA24128@sweden.it.earthlink.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu IF you mean 24 hr turn-a-round they charge, or did several months ago, $100 for the service, but I've never had a need that justified the expense. I have, however, sent my 701 in for word a few times and have always received it back two days after out-shipping. Unfortunately, that's the good news, the bad news is that each cause for sending it in the first place has taken two or three round trips - but they did get it fixed! On Sun, 19 May 1996, Paul Khoury wrote: > Has anyone here done an overnight Easyserve? I decided that since I don't need my 701cs much this week, > I would get it done now, and quickly. Does anyone have any expericances they could share on this? > > Regards, > > Paul Khoury > pkhoury@earthlink.net > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 19 18:18:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA267320317; Mon, 19 May 1997 18:18:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06286; Mon, 19 May 1997 18:16:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 19 May 1997 18:14:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06020; Mon, 19 May 1997 18:14:56 -0400 Received: from italy.it.earthlink.net (italy-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06000; Mon, 19 May 1997 18:14:48 -0400 Received: from pool060-max5.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool060-max5.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.21.135]) by italy.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA22510; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705192214.PAA22510@italy.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Daniel Hammett" Date: Sun, 19 May 96 15:10:19 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades for TP 750 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On 23 Apr 1997 07:22 EDT, Daniel Hammett wrote: >Folks, > >It's been a while since I saw this topic posted, and I am ever the >optimist. The question is fairly straight forward - does anyone know of >a CPU upgrade for the ThinkPad 750? The original CPU is a 486SL/33 and I >had heard that there was no upgrade path from SL parts. > >Are there no higher speed SL CPUs or did Intel only make the 33MHz >version? > Actually, try going to http://www.evergreen.com. I saw an advertisement from them on processor upgrades in Mobile Office. Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 19 18:53:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA276872429; Mon, 19 May 1997 18:53:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09325; Mon, 19 May 1997 18:51:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 19 May 1997 18:49:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09077; Mon, 19 May 1997 18:49:26 -0400 Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09048; Mon, 19 May 1997 18:49:14 -0400 Message-Id: <199705192249.SAA09048@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from p_machule.triumf.ca (ppp11.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:45:08 PST From: "Peter Machule " To: "Paul Khoury" , , "Daniel Hammett" Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades for TP 750 Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 15:29:59 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The TP750 can NOT be upgraded !! The Intel 486SL is not compatible with any current CPU pinout or function. Sorry ..peter.. Thinking very strongly about upgrading his TP730T . epecially since it is on a daughtercard and is a 486SX 3.3 volt and a AMD DX-133 would be kind of neat....... and pin compatible ;-} ---------- > From: Paul Khoury > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Daniel Hammett > Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades for TP 750 > Date: Sunday, May 19, 1996 8:10 AM > > On 23 Apr 1997 07:22 EDT, Daniel Hammett wrote: > > >Folks, > > > >It's been a while since I saw this topic posted, and I am ever the > >optimist. The question is fairly straight forward - does anyone know of > >a CPU upgrade for the ThinkPad 750? The original CPU is a 486SL/33 and I > >had heard that there was no upgrade path from SL parts. > > > >Are there no higher speed SL CPUs or did Intel only make the 33MHz > >version? > > > Actually, try going to http://www.evergreen.com. I saw an advertisement >from them on processor upgrades in > Mobile Office. > Regards, > > Paul Khoury > pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 20 06:03:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA154552631; Tue, 20 May 1997 06:03:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04390; Tue, 20 May 1997 06:01:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 20 May 1997 06:00:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04159; Tue, 20 May 1997 06:00:10 -0400 Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk (mercury.ukc.ac.uk [129.12.21.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04115; Tue, 20 May 1997 06:00:01 -0400 Received: from stork.ukc.ac.uk by mercury.ukc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 20 May 1997 10:59:28 +0100 Received: from slip1d81.ukc.ac.uk by stork.ukc.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/UKC-2.14) id KAA17968; Tue, 20 May 1997 10:59:23 +0100 Message-Id: <338175B0.7CF2@ukc.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 10:58:08 +0100 From: "Angus F. Hewlett" Reply-To: afh1@ukc.ac.uk Organization: blah X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: EtherExpress in DockI? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, Just wondering if anyone's tried using an Intel EtherExpress ISA ethernet card in a Dock 1? My system is a TP755c, running Win95; the card only seems to work intermittantly, and when it does, performance is very bad. The protocol I'm using is tcp/ip. Symptoms include things like pings to the adjacent machine on the network sometimes timing out; I can connect to an ftp server, get listings et cetera but can't get the file downloads to go, etc. The tcp/ip settings are correct (plugging my desktop, same card and settings, in to the network socket works fine), and Win95 *seems* to think the address/irq settings are also OK. I used to have a "dial-up adapter" driver installed (for tcp/ip over a modem); I've removed this from the Network and Device Manager control panels. Could that be part of the problem? Help / advice greatly appreciated, Angus. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 20 08:12:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA184310332; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:12:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15416; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:10:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 20 May 1997 08:08:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15236; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:08:23 -0400 Received: from mail.microserve.net (mail.microserve.net [207.44.0.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15225; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:08:17 -0400 Received: from eye.microserve.com (eye.microserve.com [198.70.182.26]) by mail.microserve.net (8.8.5/naISPa) with SMTP id IAA21943 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:07:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by eye.microserve.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC64F5.0632F820@eye.microserve.com>; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:08:39 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC64F5.0632F820@eye.microserve.com> From: "Joseph Pugliese.m.d." To: "'thinkpad'" Subject: mwave and midi file problem Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 08:05:40 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am not able to play midi files with mwave.I keep getting the error = message that the proper drivers are not installed.I can play wav files. Any help will be appreciated. joe Joseph Pugliese=20 email: jpuglies@eye.microserve.com =20 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 20 08:22:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA187060923; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:22:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16437; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:19:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 20 May 1997 08:19:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16341; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:19:17 -0400 Received: from deneb.dfn.de (deneb.dfn.de [192.76.176.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16328; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:19:12 -0400 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA25408; Tue, 20 May 97 14:19:54 +0200 Received: from bidnix.ik.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA32285; Tue, 20 May 1997 14:15:45 +0200 Received: from discworld.ik.fh-hannover.de ([192.108.52.60]) by bidnix.ik.fh-hannover.de with esmtp (ident root using rfc1413) id m0wTnsb-000rHIC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Tue, 20 May 1997 14:18:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: by discworld.ik.fh-hannover.de id m0wTpZK-000QgCC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Tue, 20 May 1997 16:06:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <19970520160654.57678@bidnix.ik.fh-hannover.de> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:06:54 +0200 From: Hanno Wagner To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP755CD and S-VHS-Input? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-md5; boundary=iRD1jyfeSSjG0jy6 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 X-Disclaimer1: Eine weitere Verwendung oder die Veroeffentlichung X-Disclaimer2: dieser Mail oder dieser Mailadresse ist nur mit der X-Disclaimer3: Einwilligung des Autors gestattet. Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --iRD1jyfeSSjG0jy6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, my daddy is using a TP 755CD with german keyboard and S-VHS-Input Connector. Now he has a Digital Videocam from Sony with an S-VHS-Output Connector so he tried to connect each other. This worked - but there is no program under Win95 to use the Input Connector. Is there anyone who knows a shareware or freeware Programm to look the Pictures coming from this Connector? Ciao, Hanno -- | Hanno Wagner | Member of the HTML Writers Guild | Rince@IRC | | Eine gewerbliche Nutzung meiner Email-Adressen ist nicht gestattet! | | pgp-fingerprint: 7D C1 01 72 75 22 01 4F 6F 08 06 49 1B 02 4A A6 | | 74 a3 53 cc 0b 19 - we did it! | Famous last word: "I'll cut the red wire." --iRD1jyfeSSjG0jy6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i iQCVAwUBM4E/kIkABLrCbuiRAQGsOwQAq7cR0qhOAkTCw4k29fd1eHoTflhTUryg X5Q80EWtY6hVVUaIci3J0gBSg9MW3Rwo4mOYs3Nfnyws4Kpc0KLsYm6zxQDPd9jM t5PTBlV0zVYiwKWkP7g28TgBt/nz/6PndgdOakKg0t9tvmcslWRnAGr+Rjz3cOgm 4QMrX3HWbiw= =FYb+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iRD1jyfeSSjG0jy6-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 20 10:23:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA219778235; Tue, 20 May 1997 10:23:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27448; Tue, 20 May 1997 10:22:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 20 May 1997 10:21:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27165; Tue, 20 May 1997 10:21:14 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27152; Tue, 20 May 1997 10:21:07 -0400 Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA09741; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:24:12 -0600 Message-Id: <3381B347.5803C2F9@wwsi.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 08:20:55 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Joseph Pugliese.m.d." Cc: "'thinkpad'" Subject: Re: mwave and midi file problem X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <01BC64F5.0632F820@eye.microserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If you did not install the MIDI samples, you won't be able to play MIDI files. Make sure you go get the 6 diskettes worth from the Web site and install them. MIDI and WAV ain't even *close* to the same thing! ;-) -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 20 13:01:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA266727665; Tue, 20 May 1997 13:01:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12627; Tue, 20 May 1997 12:59:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 20 May 1997 12:54:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12229; Tue, 20 May 1997 12:54:19 -0400 Received: from siva.captech.com ([207.33.153.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12208; Tue, 20 May 1997 12:54:12 -0400 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by siva.captech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA04755 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:54:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kensey Corp." Message-Id: <199705201654.JAA04755@siva.captech.com> Subject: 755cx memory capabilities ? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 09:54:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu hi ! i've got a 755cx with a total that i bought second hand that has a total system of 24MB. i think its got 8MB on board so it must have a 16MB expansion card. does anyone know what the max memory capability is and wheres a good place to buy a bigger card ? thanks ! doug From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 20 16:04:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA026228659; Tue, 20 May 1997 16:04:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28455; Tue, 20 May 1997 16:03:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 20 May 1997 16:01:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28169; Tue, 20 May 1997 16:01:17 -0400 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28159; Tue, 20 May 1997 16:01:10 -0400 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA16454 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 20 May 1997 16:00:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:00:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970520160030_485170895@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades for TP 750 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The TP 750 cpu can be upgraded to an AMD 133mhz. I saw this on Corporate Upgrades web page. Gayle From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 20 16:23:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA031489817; Tue, 20 May 1997 16:23:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00599; Tue, 20 May 1997 16:22:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 20 May 1997 16:21:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00495; Tue, 20 May 1997 16:21:28 -0400 Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00485; Tue, 20 May 1997 16:21:24 -0400 Received: from ibm ([207.147.141.158]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAA462 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 20:20:51 +0000 From: "Ken" <97Pony@worldnet.att.net> To: "ThinkPad Group" Subject: New TP365XD Driver Question Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 13:20:16 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970520202049.AAA462@ibm> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Just a curiosity: while web surfing, I found a series of new drivers for my TP365XD had been posted at IBM's support site (dated 4/97). I dutifully down loaded them (audio, video, system utilities & IR -- I have been relying on Win95 alone for PCMCIA support and have seen no need for the IBM card director). Already had the Feb BIOS on board. After the installation, no big surprise: I can't tell any difference at all!! Except for one very minor thing -- bootup now seems to take a little longer. I'd guess about 15-30 seconds (or so) more. I'd like to learn a little more and was wondering if anyone had any ideas about why this may have happened. Certainly NOT a big deal!! Ken PS Don't know if it makes a difference, but I was using/am still using Win95 OSR2 with FAT32 after a complete hard disk reformat that was accomplished some time ago. Both the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files are empty -- before & after driver installation. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 20 18:51:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA079888680; Tue, 20 May 1997 18:51:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11680; Tue, 20 May 1997 18:50:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 20 May 1997 18:48:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11483; Tue, 20 May 1997 18:48:30 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11473; Tue, 20 May 1997 18:48:19 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (aludra-koh.usc.edu [128.125.19.184]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with ESMTP id PAA27064; Tue, 20 May 1997 15:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sterni@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id PAA21739; Tue, 20 May 1997 15:48:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aludra.usc.edu: sterni owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:48:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "John W. Sterni" To: User754527@aol.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades for TP 750 In-Reply-To: <970520160030_485170895@emout10.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello Gayle, I was wondering if you would happen to remember the URL for the AMD site that had this information. I would appreciate it very much. Thanks -john ------------------------------------- This a test signature for John Sterni Mariah Carey fan Always and Forever http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sterni -------------------------------------- On Tue, 20 May 1997 User754527@aol.com wrote: > The TP 750 cpu can be upgraded to an AMD 133mhz. I saw this on Corporate > Upgrades web page. > > > > > Gayle > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 20 22:29:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA139681788; Tue, 20 May 1997 22:29:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24907; Tue, 20 May 1997 22:21:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 20 May 1997 22:19:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24585; Tue, 20 May 1997 22:19:23 -0400 Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24575; Tue, 20 May 1997 22:19:18 -0400 Received: from sfupc.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 20 May 1997 19:15:24 PST Received: by sfupc.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC6553.41CBD6A0@sfupc.Triumf.CA>; Tue, 20 May 1997 19:23:12 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC6553.41CBD6A0@sfupc.Triumf.CA> From: tisol To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "'User754527@aol.com'" Subject: RE: CPU Upgrades for TP 750 Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 19:23:10 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The following info was about to be posted...then I thought ...maybe??? http://195.100.109.161/scripts/corporate/upg3.asp It appears these folks have spend the money to do the Glue chip design and debugging. Pretty impressive...the work that is ,Not the result . $600 ???Ouch !! Quoting Landmark's "Speed"is very sad and meaningless. Visit Gainberry Web page for a much more "real" benchmark . I think the numbers were 20% better ?? Site is down again or I'd post it. Original Post ;-} Note the error.....(grin) Sigh...NO IT CAN NOT BE UPGRADED !! The 755's, even the 750CE, the 360's can be upgraded. These all use a 486 SX or DX for which an upgrade path exists. Mind you it's ugly ;-} The original 750's use the ill fated 486SL which is the same as a 486DX BUT: The pinout is not the same...at all. The 486 SL includes memory controller, a complete ISA Bus and a few other widgets..... While it is feasible to set up a AMD 486-133 with a LOT of glue logic (gate arrays ) and try to make it all work ; I can't see anyone bothering. The actuall performance improvement isn't fantastic. BTW you can buy a brand new Toshiba 400 Pent-75, color dual scan etc for $900 this is with 3 year warrany from Insight. Or $1250 gets you a new Thinkpad 365XD pent-120, Cdrom ,Active display etc... So why spend $400+ on an out of warrany TP that will STILL be much slower than anything with a pentium inside. ..peter.. who loves his TP 360CE ,TP730T (very strange beast) and will soon have a TP750Pen ---------- From: User754527@aol.com[SMTP:User754527@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 1997 9:00 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades for TP 750 The TP 750 cpu can be upgraded to an AMD 133mhz. I saw this on Corporate Upgrades web page. Gayle From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 20 23:11:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA151194311; Tue, 20 May 1997 23:11:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28345; Tue, 20 May 1997 23:11:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 20 May 1997 23:10:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28234; Tue, 20 May 1997 23:10:21 -0400 Received: from brickbat8.mindspring.com (brickbat8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28215; Tue, 20 May 1997 23:10:14 -0400 Received: from jschwartz (user-37kb961.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.193]) by brickbat8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA22049; Tue, 20 May 1997 23:10:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970520230936.00fccde0@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jeffsnc@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 23:09:36 -0400 To: "Joseph Pugliese.m.d." , "'thinkpad'" From: Jeffrey Schwartz Subject: Re: mwave and midi file problem In-Reply-To: <01BC64F5.0632F820@eye.microserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There are six files that you need to d/l from the IBM Web site & install for midi samples to play. Because you didn't say which TP or operating system you are using, I can not say which files to Down Load. At 08:05 AM 5/20/97 -0700, Joseph Pugliese.m.d. wrote: >I am not able to play midi files with mwave.I keep getting the error message that the proper drivers are not installed.I can play wav files. > Any help will be appreciated. > joe > >Joseph Pugliese >email: jpuglies@eye.microserve.com > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 01:51:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA201213859; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:50:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07458; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:49:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 01:47:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07189; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:47:13 -0400 Received: from emout23.mail.aol.com (emout23.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.128]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07179; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:47:07 -0400 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout23.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA05035 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 01:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970521005437_-1297903476@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades for TP 750 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The Url is http://www.ns.net/upgradesinc/frame.htm Gayle From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 02:12:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA208635151; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:12:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09108; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:11:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 02:10:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08826; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:10:05 -0400 Received: from dccomm.designcraft.com (designcraft.com [204.242.148.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08794; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:09:55 -0400 Received: from dyn-max23-29.chicago.il.ameritech.net by dccomm.designcraft.com id aa29483; 21 May 97 1:07 CDT Received: by dyn-max23-29.chicago.il.ameritech.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC6582.9C4D5980@dyn-max23-29.chicago.il.ameritech.net>; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:02:10 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC6582.9C4D5980@dyn-max23-29.chicago.il.ameritech.net> From: "Aaron W. Brown" To: "'Angus F. Hewlett'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: EtherExpress in DockI? Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:47:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: Angus F. Hewlett [afh1@ukc.ac.uk] > Just wondering if anyone's tried using an Intel EtherExpress ISA > ethernet card in a Dock 1? My system is a TP755c, running Win95; the > card only seems to work intermittantly, and when it does, performance is > very bad. The protocol I'm using is tcp/ip. > > Symptoms include things like pings to the adjacent machine on the > network sometimes timing out; I can connect to an ftp server, get > listings et cetera but can't get the file downloads to go, etc. The > tcp/ip settings are correct (plugging my desktop, same card and > settings, in to the network socket works fine), and Win95 *seems* to > think the address/irq settings are also OK. I think the IRQ setting is the same as another hardware device. There are precious few free. Which one did you choose? aaron@designcraft.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 04:34:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA247203655; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:34:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21522; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:33:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 04:22:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20679; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:22:14 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20669; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:22:08 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA08837; Tue, 20 May 97 22:22:03 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA22727; Tue, 20 May 1997 22:23:00 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199705210823.WAA22727@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 20 May 97 22:22:57 HST In-Reply-To: <970521005437_-1297903476@emout08.mail.aol.com>; from "User754527@aol.com" at May 21, 97 1:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I see that the subject of CPU speedups has come up again. Some time ago I offered to post my own experiences with replacing my *desktop* 486-66 with the AMD586-133; several readers asked me to do so. I held back because at about that time one of the upgrade companies which lurks here promised some real-world benchmarks. However, they didn't follow up; so, I've put my own results on the web. BTW, I'd appreciate any feedback - if it is well-received, I'll keep it on disk and repost sporadically, as the subject recurs. If I've done things right, you can find my document at http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~ross/cpu I would have just posted it here, except that it is pretty long. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 04:46:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA250364405; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:46:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22603; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:46:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 04:40:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22039; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:40:12 -0400 Received: from bcarsde4.localhost (mailgate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22027; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:40:07 -0400 Message-Id: <199705210840.EAA22027@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from bcarsfba.ott.bnr.ca (actually bcarsfba.bnr.ca) by bcarsde4.localhost; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:32:23 -0400 Received: from bnr.ca by bcarsfba.bnr.ca id <25276-0@bcarsfba.bnr.ca>; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:30:08 -0400 Date: 21 May 1997 04:29 EDT Sender: "Daniel Hammett" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Daniel Hammett" Subject: Re: mwave and midi file problem Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, this is a suprise - I have had the same problems with playing MIDI files although my circumstances are somewhat different, perhaps. I have an old but still very useful TP750 Mono for which I purchased one of those IBM 3D PCMCIA Sound Cards. I installed the DOS drivers and have had absolutely no problems at all with any games I care to throw at it, except Dark Forces where the speech is garbled (ideas, anyone?). Recently I did a stupid thing and installed the Windows drivers in place of the IBM Audio Features drivers. Everything worked OK until I tried to use the IBM-provided mixing desk programme - after that, MIDI files would not play and I got the message that the proper drivers were not installed. The only way round this was to completely re-install the drivers from the disks and DO NOT USE the mixing desk programme. In fact, delete it! Manually edit the .INI file if you can understand it. I have the absolutely latest drivers from the IBM FTP site and it made no difference, so perhaps someone from IBM would care to comment, or has anyone got this to work satisfactorily? Regards Dan. In message "mwave and midi file problem", you write: > There are six files that you need to d/l from the IBM Web site & install > for midi samples to play. Because you didn't say which TP or operating > system you are using, I can not say which files to Down Load. > > At 08:05 AM 5/20/97 -0700, Joseph Pugliese.m.d. wrote: > >I am not able to play midi files with mwave.I keep getting the error > message that the proper drivers are not installed.I can play wav files. > > Any help will be appreciated. > > joe > > > >Joseph Pugliese > >email: jpuglies@eye.microserve.com *---------------------------------------------------------------* | Dan Hammett - TN-16X Hardware Engineer | *---------------------------------------------------------------* | NORTEL Engineering Centre | | | Doagh Road, | Tel: +44 (0) 1232 363525 | | Newtownabbey | ESN: 6 751 3525 | | Co. Antrim, BT36 6XA | Email: dhammett@nortel.com | | Northern Ireland | | *---------------------------------------------------------------* | Opinions expressed in this email are mine, not my employer's | *---------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 06:26:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA274210393; Wed, 21 May 1997 06:26:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04562; Wed, 21 May 1997 06:20:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 06:18:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04377; Wed, 21 May 1997 06:18:57 -0400 Received: from huset.fm.unit.no (huset.fm.unit.no [129.241.211.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04367; Wed, 21 May 1997 06:18:52 -0400 Received: (qmail 4638 invoked by uid 30256); 21 May 1997 10:18:50 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:18:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Lars Christian Evensen X-Sender: larsev@huset.fm.unit.no To: "Kensey Corp." Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 755cx memory capabilities ? In-Reply-To: <199705201654.JAA04755@siva.captech.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 20 May 1997, Kensey Corp. wrote: > > hi ! i've got a 755cx with a total that i bought second hand that > has a total system of 24MB. i think its got 8MB on board so it > must have a 16MB expansion card. does anyone know what the max > memory capability is and wheres a good place to buy a bigger card ? You can remove the 16Mb card and insert a 32Mb card for a total of 40Mb. Since I don't live in the USA, I can not recommend a place to get one of tese cards. CU -- LArs Evensen, Overordnet TillitsValgt (OTV) ved FIM, NTNU E.B.Schieldrops Vei 11-16 E-mail : larsev@stud.math.ntnu.no 7033 Trondheim WWW : http://www.fm.unit.no/~larsev/ Norway Phone : + 47 - 73 88 89 01 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 06:27:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA274470468; Wed, 21 May 1997 06:27:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04757; Wed, 21 May 1997 06:22:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 06:21:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04644; Wed, 21 May 1997 06:21:27 -0400 Received: from huset.fm.unit.no (huset.fm.unit.no [129.241.211.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04623; Wed, 21 May 1997 06:21:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 5108 invoked by uid 30256); 21 May 1997 10:21:15 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:21:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Lars Christian Evensen X-Sender: larsev@huset.fm.unit.no To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: XConfig86 file for TP755Cx Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi I had this file on my hard drive before the whole thing crashed (hads to get a new harddrive). I was wondering if someone would send me a mail with their config-file (I know that some of you are running linux on your boxes.) Thanx CU -- LArs Evensen, Overordnet TillitsValgt (OTV) ved FIM, NTNU E.B.Schieldrops Vei 11-16 E-mail : larsev@stud.math.ntnu.no 7033 Trondheim WWW : http://www.fm.unit.no/~larsev/ Norway Phone : + 47 - 73 88 89 01 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 09:19:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA019110746; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:19:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24734; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:16:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 09:16:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24603; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:16:10 -0400 Received: from deneb.dfn.de (deneb.dfn.de [192.76.176.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24585; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:16:02 -0400 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA29122; Wed, 21 May 97 15:16:38 +0200 Received: from bidnix.ik.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA24055; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:12:29 +0200 Received: from discworld.ik.fh-hannover.de ([192.108.52.60]) by bidnix.ik.fh-hannover.de with esmtp (ident root using rfc1413) id m0wUBF4-000rHIC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Wed, 21 May 1997 15:15:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: by discworld.ik.fh-hannover.de id m0wUCvE-000QgHC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Wed, 21 May 1997 17:03:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <19970521170304.03544@bidnix.ik.fh-hannover.de> Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:03:04 +0200 From: Hanno Wagner To: pcolsen@super.org Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Dock I CDROM under Linux References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-md5; boundary=P3DRpeJDSE+ciuQc X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Peter C. Olsen on Wed, May 21, 1997 at 08:22:00AM -0400 X-Disclaimer1: Eine weitere Verwendung oder die Veroeffentlichung X-Disclaimer2: dieser Mail oder dieser Mailadresse ist nur mit der X-Disclaimer3: Einwilligung des Autors gestattet. Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --P3DRpeJDSE+ciuQc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, On May 21, Peter C. Olsen wrote > Has anyone ever been successful in getting the Dock I CDROM to > run under Linux? If so, how? No problem for me. I just put my TP 370C in the Dock I, started Linux (I had already IDE in it) and there it came with hdb for the CDROM... Ciao, Hanno -- | Hanno Wagner | Member of the HTML Writers Guild | Rince@IRC | | Eine gewerbliche Nutzung meiner Email-Adressen ist nicht gestattet! | | pgp-fingerprint: 7D C1 01 72 75 22 01 4F 6F 08 06 49 1B 02 4A A6 | | 74 a3 53 cc 0b 19 - we did it! | Famous last word: "Reload ? 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Olsen" Subject: Dock I CDROM under Linux To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: pcolsen@super.org Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Disclaimer: These opinions are mine, alone Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone ever been successful in getting the Dock I CDROM to run under Linux? If so, how? Peter Olsen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 10:03:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA030883387; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:03:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21790; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:49:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 08:47:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21294; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:47:13 -0400 Received: from jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu (jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.86]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21254; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:47:02 -0400 Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #13870) id <01IJ4IXEH3RK94DQXB@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #13870) id <01IJ4IXBOXAQ94DQ2U@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:45:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu by jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu id <762-7>; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:45:08 -0400 Received: by n2ell.columbia.md.us (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.3 #3) id m0wUADG-0008csC; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 08:09:00 -0400 From: "Peter C. Olsen" Subject: Dock I ethernet under Linux? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Disclaimer: These opinions are mine, alone Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone been able to use the Dock I to hold ethernet cards under Linux? I have tried several different cards and the kernel doesn't seem to recognize them. Any suggestions? Peter Olsen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 10:04:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA031173440; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:04:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21801; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:49:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 08:47:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21321; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:47:18 -0400 Received: from jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu (jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.86]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21286; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:47:10 -0400 Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #13870) id <01IJ4IXEH3RK94DQXB@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #13870) id <01IJ4IXBOXAQ94DQ2U@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu by jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu id <707-7>; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:45:08 -0400 Received: by n2ell.columbia.md.us (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.3 #3) id m0wUA8p-0008csC; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 08:05:00 -0400 From: "Peter C. Olsen" Subject: At-Lan-Tek Pocket Ethernet Adapter on the TP750Cs To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Disclaimer: These opinions are mine, alone Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone had any success using the At-Lan-Tek Pocket Ethernet/Parallel Port Adapter on the TP750Cs under Linux? I have one that I've used on another machine and I'd like to be able to use it on the TP750 as well. Unfortunately, I have had absolutely no success. There is no indication that the kernel recognizes it at all. I'm beginning to wonder if the parallel port is incomplete or requires some special initialization. I believe the kernel is properly configured because the same kernel works on my other machine. Peter Olsen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 10:32:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA039025165; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:32:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01470; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:30:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 10:29:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01290; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:29:11 -0400 Received: from smtp1.worldnow.com ([208.154.130.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01279; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:29:03 -0400 Received: from [208.154.130.11] by smtp1.worldnow.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id A7A6B6300B6; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:33:10 -0600 Received: from [205.218.33.42] by mail.sisna.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id A6825FCE00CA; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:28:18 -0600 Message-Id: <338306C5.2636@propilot.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 08:29:25 -0600 From: "Don B Rich, Jr" Reply-To: don@propilot.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: David Ross Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers References: <199705210823.WAA22727@tarski.hawaii.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu David Ross wrote: > > I see that the subject of CPU speedups has come up again. Some time > ago I offered to post my own experiences with replacing my *desktop* 486-66 > with the AMD586-133; several readers asked me to do so. I held back > because at about that time one of the upgrade companies > which lurks here promised some real-world benchmarks. However, they > didn't follow up; so, I've put my own results on the web. BTW, I'd > appreciate > any feedback - if it is well-received, I'll keep it on disk and repost > sporadically, as the subject recurs. > > If I've done things right, you can find my document at > > http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~ross/cpu > > I would have just posted it here, except that it is pretty long. > > - David To David or anyone who might know Is the $40 self installed chip available for the 701? Thanks Don From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 13:57:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA101887473; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:57:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18484; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:56:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 13:54:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18169; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:54:14 -0400 Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18158; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:54:03 -0400 Received: from sfupc.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:49:23 PST Received: by sfupc.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC65D5.C05B9C80@sfupc.Triumf.CA>; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:57:18 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC65D5.C05B9C80@sfupc.Triumf.CA> From: tisol To: "'don@propilot.com'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 10:57:17 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu NOPE !! on the 701 CPU is soldered .... Min price is at least $400 US.. Given that the DX4-75 from intel had such a small improvement over the DX2-50 in THIS machine, it is definitely not worth it. ..peter.. ---------- From: Don B Rich, Jr[SMTP:don@propilot.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 1997 7:29 AM To: David Ross Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers To David or anyone who might know Is the $40 self installed chip available for the 701? Thanks Don From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 14:26:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA114409166; Wed, 21 May 1997 14:26:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20937; Wed, 21 May 1997 14:23:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 14:22:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20826; Wed, 21 May 1997 14:22:54 -0400 Received: from linus.artech.se (linus.artech.se [194.17.252.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20753; Wed, 21 May 1997 14:22:41 -0400 Received: from sb.artech.se (modem6.artech.se [194.17.252.15]) by linus.artech.se (8.7.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA11115; Wed, 21 May 1997 20:22:42 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5kan?= Ask Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5kan?= Ask To: Paul Khoury , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , Daniel Hammett Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 20:07:08 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades for TP 750 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Den 21-Maj-97, skrev Paul Khoury: >On 23 Apr 1997 07:22 EDT, Daniel Hammett wrote: >>Folks, >> >>It's been a while since I saw this topic posted, and I am ever the >>optimist. The question is fairly straight forward - does anyone know of= >>a CPU upgrade for the ThinkPad 750? The original CPU is a 486SL/33 and = I = >>had heard that there was no upgrade path from SL parts. >> >>Are there no higher speed SL CPUs or did Intel only make the 33MHz >>version? >> >>Thanks for any replies, >> >>Dan. >> >>*---------------------------------------------------------------* >>| Dan Hammett - TN-16X Hardware Engineer | >I believe that Intel only made the 486SL-25 & 33, and also had an SL ser= ies for the 386, but I think that's it. = >Upgrading any machine (with some exceptions on today's Pentiums) requir= es that the crystel match the = >speed of the processor, i.e. 25,50,75MHz=3D50MHz crystel, 33,66,100 (act= ually 99)MHz=3D33MHz, = >20,40MHz=3D40MHz, etc. I have heard, however, in Play at Will, the new = EZPLAY for OS/2 Warp, in the card = >compatibility list of an IBM Chip Upgrade, as noted below. > PlayAtWill (*) PC Card(**) support > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ...........blah, blah, blah..... > = > CPU > IBM > ChipCard TC-100 > 3.0 Trademarks > ---------------- > The following terms, denoted by a double asterisk(**), are trademarks o= f > o (blah, blah, blah...) > IBM > ThinkPad > PlayAtWill > PC Card Director >And that's it. I have no idea if the card still exists or which machine= it's intended for, but there's the = >information anyways. >Regards, >Paul Khoury >pkhoury@earthlink.net Hello malinglist tp750! I think there is an upgrade for the 750. There is a company here in swede= n that replaces all necessary components in the 750. = The processor they put in is an AMD = 133 MHZ pentium or something, and they claim it will get the performance = similar to a P75. Unfortunately I have only have the swedish site. = http://195.100.109.161/scripts/run3.asp H=E5kan Ask from Sweden. Some info bout me: I have a 750 C 20M ram 340 M HD aiming at the 760 XD. I`m a video producer at "Video Tre" in Sweden I`m planning to use the 760 for pre-editing. For that I guess I will need= a docking station. Which one should I get? email: ask@sb.artech.se = From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 15:45:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA139993933; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:45:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27438; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:39:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 15:37:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27234; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:37:45 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27212; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:37:38 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA10617; Wed, 21 May 97 09:37:36 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA24197; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:38:31 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199705211938.JAA24197@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers To: don@propilot.com Date: Wed, 21 May 97 9:38:28 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <338306C5.2636@propilot.com>; from "Don B Rich, Jr" at May 21, 97 8:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > To David or anyone who might know > Is the $40 self installed chip available for the 701? > Thanks Don Oops - no, it isn't; I should have mentioned that in the document (I'll make the change later today). - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 15:47:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA140564051; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:47:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28008; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:42:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 15:41:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27847; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:41:49 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27800; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:41:42 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA10644; Wed, 21 May 97 09:41:36 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA24208; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:42:31 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199705211942.JAA24208@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: TP701 and TP560 accessory deals spotted To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 21 May 97 9:42:30 HST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, While surfing for something else I noticed that CDW (www.cdw.com; look in the `bargain basement') was selling a TP560 Port Replicator for $88 and a 1 gig drive for the TP701 for $275 (the latter from a 3rd party, not IBM). - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 19:48:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA217928528; Wed, 21 May 1997 19:48:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17899; Wed, 21 May 1997 19:47:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 19:45:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17606; Wed, 21 May 1997 19:45:30 -0400 Received: from mail.microserve.net (mail.microserve.net [207.44.0.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17562; Wed, 21 May 1997 19:45:20 -0400 Received: from unknown (eye.microserve.com [198.70.182.26]) by mail.microserve.net (8.8.5/naISPa) with SMTP id TAA02570 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 19:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Priority: Normal X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Joseph Pugliese" Subject: difficulty downloading mvmidi files from Ibm. Date: Wed, 21 May 97 19:39:16 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It was suggested I download mvmidi files from ibm in order to play midi = files. i'm having great difficulties . I downloaded six disketes when I went to = install them they had to be expaned before they could be installed. Iwas unable to expand them from the diskettes. I then downlaoded them = to my c: drive and I was able to expand thme to floppies. I was able to = start the setup with the first disc but when it asked to install disc 2 = I got error mesages and was unable to complete the installation. Any ideas will be appreciated-------.what is the proper way to downlad = these files into diskettes?? joe J.Pugliese email:jpuglies@microserve.netJ.Pugliese email:jpuglies@microserve.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 21 19:48:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA217978530; Wed, 21 May 1997 19:48:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17894; Wed, 21 May 1997 19:47:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 21 May 1997 19:45:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17645; Wed, 21 May 1997 19:45:47 -0400 Received: from mail.microserve.net (mail.microserve.net [207.44.0.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17626; Wed, 21 May 1997 19:45:42 -0400 Received: from unknown (eye.microserve.com [198.70.182.26]) by mail.microserve.net (8.8.5/naISPa) with SMTP id TAA02579 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 19:44:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Priority: Normal X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Joseph Pugliese" Subject: difficulty downloading mvmidi files from Ibm. Date: Wed, 21 May 97 19:39:16 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It was suggested I download mvmidi files from ibm in order to play midi = files. i'm having great difficulties . I downloaded six disketes when I went to = install them they had to be expaned before they could be installed. Iwas unable to expand them from the diskettes. I then downlaoded them = to my c: drive and I was able to expand thme to floppies. I was able to = start the setup with the first disc but when it asked to install disc 2 = I got error mesages and was unable to complete the installation. Any ideas will be appreciated-------.what is the proper way to downlad = these files into diskettes?? joe J.Pugliese email:jpuglies@microserve.netJ.Pugliese email:jpuglies@microserve.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 22 02:55:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA043964115; Thu, 22 May 1997 02:55:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15368; Thu, 22 May 1997 02:54:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 22 May 1997 02:53:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15260; Thu, 22 May 1997 02:53:09 -0400 Received: from unexexch.unex.ucla.edu (exchange.unex.ucla.edu [128.97.115.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15250; Thu, 22 May 1997 02:53:03 -0400 Received: by unexexch.unex.ucla.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC6641.FDC86F50@unexexch.unex.ucla.edu>; Wed, 21 May 1997 23:52:07 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Swartz, Charles" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: 4 MBPS IrDA for 560 Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 23:48:44 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is probably a sure "no," but I notice IBM is OEM'ing the 4 MBPS IrDA chips. Any way they can put one in my 560 in place of the existing 115 KBPS ? Many thanks. Charles S. Swartz Program Manager Department of Entertainment Studies and Performing Arts UCLA Extension 310-825-9634 Phone 310-206-7435 Fax cswartz@unex.ucla.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 22 12:40:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA201509243; Thu, 22 May 1997 12:40:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05416; Thu, 22 May 1997 12:39:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 22 May 1997 12:35:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05153; Thu, 22 May 1997 12:35:35 -0400 Received: from netcom12.netcom.com (phr@netcom12.netcom.com [192.100.81.124]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05129; Thu, 22 May 1997 12:35:30 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA02862; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:35:26 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 09:35:26 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199705221635.JAA02862@netcom12.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: linux on 365xd? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is anyone running linux on a 365xd? Does everything work? Any special requirements for the X server? Does the soundblaster emulation work? Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 22 14:57:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA245557441; Thu, 22 May 1997 14:57:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15879; Thu, 22 May 1997 14:40:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 22 May 1997 14:37:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15445; Thu, 22 May 1997 14:37:46 -0400 Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15384; Thu, 22 May 1997 14:37:33 -0400 Received: from sfupc.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 22 May 1997 11:33:22 PST Received: by sfupc.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC66A4.E60FDC00@sfupc.Triumf.CA>; Thu, 22 May 1997 11:40:08 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC66A4.E60FDC00@sfupc.Triumf.CA> From: tisol To: "'don@propilot.com'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 11:40:07 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu NOT even close ...RE: p75 performance The 701 is/was a lovely machine but SLOW. I don't have one; but all benchmarks I have seen (mainly PC Mag which tend to be the only meaningfull ones ..sigh) indicated poor performance for it's class. MB is only rated for 25 Mhz so an AMD would only run at 100 Mhz. NO 2nd level cache much less write back. The change in performance from the original DX2-50 to the DX4-75 was amazingly small .... Go visit Ziff Davis . The step to a DX4-100 will be miminal !!! (probably ;-} ) AGAIN don't pay any attention the the Landmark SPEED numbers They mean nothing !!!!! ..peter.. ---------- From: Don B Rich, Jr[SMTP:don@propilot.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 1997 11:48 AM To: tisol Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers tisol wrote: > > NOPE !! > on the 701 CPU is soldered .... > Min price is at least $400 US.. > Given that the DX4-75 from intel had such a small > improvement over the DX2-50 in THIS machine, it is definitely > not worth it. > ..peter.. > ---------- > From: Don B Rich, Jr[SMTP:don@propilot.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 1997 7:29 AM > To: David Ross > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers > > To David or anyone who might know > Is the $40 self installed chip available for the 701? > Thanks Don > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Part 1.2 Type: application/ms-tnef > Encoding: base64 Thanks for the info. $400 for what end result? About p75? Don From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 22 15:26:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA252639187; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:26:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20398; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:24:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 22 May 1997 15:23:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20261; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:23:08 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20250; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:23:03 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA14134; Thu, 22 May 97 09:22:57 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA24441; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:23:54 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199705221923.JAA24441@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: RE: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers To: machule@triumf.ca (tisol) Date: Thu, 22 May 97 9:23:52 HST Cc: don@propilot.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <01BC66A4.E60FDC00@sfupc.Triumf.CA>; from "tisol" at May 22, 97 11:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tiso wrote: > > NOT even close ...RE: p75 performance > The 701 is/was a lovely machine but SLOW. > I don't have one; but all benchmarks I have seen > (mainly PC Mag which tend to be the only meaningfull ones ..sigh) > indicated poor performance for it's class. (1) In defense of the 701, it has good disk and video performance for a 486; my day-to-day work isn't all that much faster on my P133 machines. (Perhaps the PC Mag bmarks had the machine in one of the power conservation modes.) (2) As for the projected speedup with the AMD chip, when I changed my desktop 486DX2-66 to the AMD586-133 I expected only a marginal increase, and was pleasantly surprised to see substantial real-world improvement (see the doc I posted at my website, www.math.hawaii.edu/~ross/cpu). Not quite P75, but suprisingly good. However, I personally wouldn't pay $400 for this amount of speedup. > NO 2nd level cache much less write back. The AMD *does* have a write-back cache (though some system boards don't let you enable this). - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 23 01:59:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA050677140; Fri, 23 May 1997 01:59:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01834; Fri, 23 May 1997 01:58:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 23 May 1997 01:56:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01693; Fri, 23 May 1997 01:56:13 -0400 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01680; Fri, 23 May 1997 01:56:05 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx13-06.teleport.com [206.163.124.135]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA22897 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 22:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 22:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705230555.WAA22897@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: RE: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tiso is correct, 701 IS a lovely machine and David is correct that for many or most functions its 486/100 does just fine (Sorry INTEL). While I look and wait for a cd capable pentium tp I still marvel at this jewel. The weight, size and display are great and keyboard still gets the girls attention... The silence from the upgrade companies is deafening. Has NOBODY actually upgraded? Maybe they should offer a special deal for someone to take the upgrade (first upgrade?) and report on it. Presumably IBM would not void warranty on other aspects of a machine (screen, hinges etc that we hear about) if the chip is replaced...but I'd want to ask them. Bryan At 09:23 AM 5/22/97 HST, you wrote: >Tiso wrote: >> >> NOT even close ...RE: p75 performance >> The 701 is/was a lovely machine but SLOW. >> I don't have one; but all benchmarks I have seen >> (mainly PC Mag which tend to be the only meaningfull ones ..sigh) >> indicated poor performance for it's class. > >(1) In defense of the 701, it has good disk and video performance for a >486; my day-to-day work isn't all that much faster on my P133 machines. >(Perhaps the PC Mag bmarks had the machine in one of the power >conservation modes.) > >(2) As for the projected speedup with the AMD chip, when I changed my >desktop 486DX2-66 to the AMD586-133 I expected only a marginal increase, >and was pleasantly surprised to see substantial real-world improvement >(see the doc I posted at my website, www.math.hawaii.edu/~ross/cpu). >Not quite P75, but suprisingly good. However, I personally wouldn't pay >$400 for this amount of speedup. > >> NO 2nd level cache much less write back. > >The AMD *does* have a write-back cache (though some system boards don't >let you enable this). > >- David > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 23 13:40:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA154529253; Fri, 23 May 1997 13:40:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29025; Fri, 23 May 1997 13:39:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 23 May 1997 13:27:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27905; Fri, 23 May 1997 13:27:48 -0400 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27895; Fri, 23 May 1997 13:27:41 -0400 Received: from cais.cais.com (rj@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/cais-andrew-jdf) with SMTP id NAA09814; Fri, 23 May 1997 13:27:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 13:27:38 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: David Ross Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers In-Reply-To: <199705210823.WAA22727@tarski.hawaii.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, you apparantly did it right as it was where you specified and it was quite informative. Bottom line, I think I wait for the fire sale on the 560's or maybe wait and see what it's replacement is like. On Tue, 20 May 1997, David Ross wrote: > I see that the subject of CPU speedups has come up again. Some time > ago I offered to post my own experiences with replacing my *desktop* 486-66 > with the AMD586-133; several readers asked me to do so. I held back > because at about that time one of the upgrade companies > which lurks here promised some real-world benchmarks. However, they > didn't follow up; so, I've put my own results on the web. BTW, I'd > appreciate > any feedback - if it is well-received, I'll keep it on disk and repost > sporadically, as the subject recurs. > > If I've done things right, you can find my document at > > http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~ross/cpu > > I would have just posted it here, except that it is pretty long. > > - David > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 23 21:03:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA236155815; Fri, 23 May 1997 21:03:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01961; Fri, 23 May 1997 21:02:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 23 May 1997 21:01:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01854; Fri, 23 May 1997 21:01:33 -0400 Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net (norway-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01844; Fri, 23 May 1997 21:01:28 -0400 Received: from pool004-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool004-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.7.154]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA09661; Fri, 23 May 1997 18:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705240101.SAA09661@norway.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "=?iso-8859-0?q?H=86kan_Ask?=" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 23 May 96 17:57:52 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades for TP 750 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 21 May 1997 20:07:08 +0100, H=86kan Ask wrote: >Den 21-Maj-97, skrev Paul Khoury: > >>On 23 Apr 1997 07:22 EDT, Daniel Hammett wrote: > >>>Folks, >>> >>>It's been a while since I saw this topic posted, and I am ever the >>>optimist. The question is fairly straight forward - does anyone know = of >>>a CPU upgrade for the ThinkPad 750? The original CPU is a 486SL/33 an= d I >>>had heard that there was no upgrade path from SL parts. >>> >>>Are there no higher speed SL CPUs or did Intel only make the 33MHz >>>version? >>> >>>Thanks for any replies, >>> >>>Dan. >>> >>>*---------------------------------------------------------------* >>>| Dan Hammett - TN-16X Hardware Engineer | > >>I believe that Intel only made the 486SL-25 & 33, and also had an SL s= eries for the 386, but I think that's it. >>Upgrading any machine (with some exceptions on today's Pentiums) requ= ires that the crystel match the >>speed of the processor, i.e. 25,50,75MHz=3D50MHz crystel, 33,66,100 (a= ctually 99)MHz=3D33MHz, >>20,40MHz=3D40MHz, etc. I have heard, however, in Play at Will, the ne= w EZPLAY for OS/2 Warp, in the card >>compatibility list of an IBM Chip Upgrade, as noted below. > >> PlayAtWill (*) PC Card(**) support >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >> ...........blah, blah, blah..... >> > >> CPU >> IBM >> ChipCard TC-100 > > >> 3.0 Trademarks >> ---------------- > >> The following terms, denoted by a double asterisk(**), are trademarks= of >> o (blah, blah, blah...) > >> IBM >> ThinkPad >> PlayAtWill >> PC Card Director > > >>And that's it. I have no idea if the card still exists or which machi= ne it's intended for, but there's the >>information anyways. >>Regards, > >>Paul Khoury >>pkhoury@earthlink.net > >Hello malinglist tp750! > > >I think there is an upgrade for the 750. There is a company here in swe= den that replaces all necessary components in the 750. >The processor they put in is an AMD >133 MHZ pentium or something, and they claim it will get the performanc= e similar to a P75. >Unfortunately I have only have the swedish site. > >http://195.100.109.161/scripts/run3.asp > >H=86kan Ask from Sweden. >Some info bout me: >I have a 750 C 20M ram 340 M HD aiming at the 760 XD. >I`m a video producer at "Video Tre" in Sweden >I`m planning to use the 760 for pre-editing. For that I guess I will ne= ed a docking station. Which one should I get? > >email: ask@sb.artech.se > > I believe that the Dock II would be good if you want to add in another v= ideo card or input device. I don't have it (unfortunantly), but I think this description is correct: weighs= approx. 30-40lbs (?), SCSI-II built in, 1 3.5"/1 5.25" drive bays, space for 755-type HD, either 2 or 3 16 bit ISA= slots, power supply, LCD status panel, disk drive, key lock, kensington lock hole, all the usual ports, etc. I= can't remember which one it is, but I think it's the Selectadock 1 or 2 that has PCI. Best regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 02:32:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA277915568; Sat, 24 May 1997 02:32:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23652; Sat, 24 May 1997 02:31:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 02:30:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23335; Sat, 24 May 1997 02:30:01 -0400 Received: from iceland.it.earthlink.net (iceland-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23297; Sat, 24 May 1997 02:29:47 -0400 Received: from pool022-max7.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool022-max7.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.16.97]) by iceland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA20149; Fri, 23 May 1997 23:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705240629.XAA20149@iceland.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "aaron@designcraft.com" , "Randy Whittle" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 23 May 96 23:25:30 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Monitor/KB/Mouse Switchboxes Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 26 Apr 1997 18:52:20 -0700, Randy Whittle wrote: >At 07:12 PM 4/26/97 -0500, Aaron W. Brown wrote: >> I have often wished that my crisp Thinkpad TFT display could be used as >the VGA display for a second (desktop) system. > > The other day I was at a CompUSA and saw a desktop machine made by Compaq >that was pretty nifty. It had a flat panel TFT display, I think went to >1024x768, and it was called "Double-bright" or somesuch. Believe me, it >WAS! It looked *really* good--clear, sharp--incredible. They had a little >graph comparing the brightness level to other things (like a laptop TFT) >and it claimed to be twice as bright. I don't know for certain that it >was, but it sure looked like it. > > Actually, you can get a "kit" to attach a TFT to your desktop using a 8 bit (mono) or 16-bit (mono, stn, dstn, tft) on your desktop using a compatible LCD and the controller card. In fact, as I speak I have one of these kits attached to a test system that I used to perfom tests on an old Seagate 20meg drive. I was supposed to get the TFT kit, but there were some discrepensies in the deal I worked out with the owner of this company that I wasn't aware of. I actually traded in what I was told was a proprietary TFT LCD (which I sort of wish I had kept, though I needed a VGA monitor, and at that time, a CRT was more expensive than a trade-in). So apparently, this company decided to send me a mono lcd, which is "okay", but I wasn't very satisfied. If you are interested though, they are called Earth Computer Technologies, based in Mission Viejo, California. Their website is somewhere on Netcom, though I forgot where. Regards, Paul Khoury >------- >Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net >Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle > >*Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! > - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter > Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 03:01:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA281337310; Sat, 24 May 1997 03:01:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA25622; Sat, 24 May 1997 03:00:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 03:00:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA25463; Sat, 24 May 1997 03:00:00 -0400 Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net (denmark-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25453; Sat, 24 May 1997 02:59:55 -0400 Received: from pool030-max8.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool030-max8.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.24.30]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA12526 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 23:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705240659.XAA12526@denmark.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 23 May 96 23:56:23 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Linux and 701 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anybody here use Linux on a 701cs (dx4-75) besides myself? I can't figure out how to install APM support, and I've already tried upgrading the kernel to 2.0.27. I'm having the same problem with PCMCIA and the internal ESS688 AudioDrive chipset. Any suggestions? Do I need additional packages? Thanks. Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 09:07:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA018349272; Sat, 24 May 1997 09:07:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23778; Sat, 24 May 1997 09:07:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 09:05:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23649; Sat, 24 May 1997 09:05:51 -0400 Received: from AST01.ligsystems.com (slip166-72-214-141.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.214.141]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19872; Sat, 24 May 1997 01:33:24 -0400 Received: by AST01.ligsystems.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id WAA001.44; Fri, 23 May 1997 22:33:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199705240233.WAA001.44@AST01.ligsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 23 May 97 22:28:38 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: RE: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <142_156_4_864440918> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > NOT even close ...RE: p75 performance > The 701 is/was a lovely machine but SLOW. > I don't have one; but all benchmarks I have seen > (mainly PC Mag which tend to be the only meaningfull ones ..sigh) > indicated poor performance for it's class. I DO have a 701C ThinkPad and while it is slower than my Pentium and Pentium PRO it's plenty fast for the stuff I do when I take it out to client locations. I worked with several people who had Toshiba Pentium portables and for what we were all doing there was no substantial difference in the time required to do our work. >From my perspective what is important is whether the machine I use slows me down and so far this one does not. Lee ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 10:06:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA023662805; Sat, 24 May 1997 10:06:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27211; Sat, 24 May 1997 10:05:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 10:05:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27042; Sat, 24 May 1997 10:05:01 -0400 Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net (germany-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.123]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27032; Sat, 24 May 1997 10:04:56 -0400 Received: from pool007-max3.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool007-max3.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.8.82]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA22881 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705241404.HAA22881@germany.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 24 May 96 07:01:25 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: I'm being sarcastic Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just recieved my ThinkPad 701cs back from Easy, err, Hardserve, two days late, and the machine looks good. How good? Worse than when I sent it in on Tuesday (for the overnight option). It came back looking like FedEx dropped it one two many times, or Hardserve wanted to purposely void my warranty so they would have to deal with me again. It still works, but the machine seems to be less stable, and when I opened up the Hardserve box, I was shocked to find the keyboard shelf disattached, and that now my LCD is only attatched by the flex cable and backlight cable (and the pillow holding it up on my sofa right now, while I sit here in a very uncomfortable typing posistion). Has anyone here had this sort of problem, that is, getting the machine back from Hardserve looking worse than when it was sent in? I filed a complaint with IBM regarding Hardserve and one employee in the mobiles help center. Hopefully I'll get a response on Tuesday. Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 12:33:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA038481608; Sat, 24 May 1997 12:33:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07082; Sat, 24 May 1997 12:32:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 12:31:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06948; Sat, 24 May 1997 12:31:04 -0400 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06938; Sat, 24 May 1997 12:31:01 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA410712; Sat, 24 May 1997 16:31:08 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-199.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.199) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma90sDM2; Sat May 24 16:31:01 1997 Message-Id: <3387170F.D97CD9C3@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 10:28:00 -0600 From: ChinMing Kuo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: I'm being sarcastic X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199705241404.HAA22881@germany.it.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Paul Khoury wrote: > I just recieved my ThinkPad 701cs back from Easy, err, Hardserve, two > days late, and the machine looks > good. How good? Worse than when I sent it in on Tuesday (for the > overnight option). It came back looking > like FedEx dropped it one two many times, or Hardserve wanted to > purposely void my warranty so they would > have to deal with me again. It still works, but the machine seems to > be less stable, and when I opened up the > Hardserve box, I was shocked to find the keyboard shelf disattached, > and that now my LCD is only attatched > by the flex cable and backlight cable (and the pillow holding it up on > my sofa right now, while I sit here in a > very uncomfortable typing posistion). Has anyone here had this sort > of problem, that is, getting the machine > back from Hardserve looking worse than when it was sent in? I filed a > complaint with IBM regarding > Hardserve and one employee in the mobiles help center. Hopefully I'll > get a response on Tuesday. > > Paul Khoury > pkhoury@earthlink.net > Regards, > > Paul Khoury > pkhoury@earthlink.net I just had an opposite experience. I noticed some noise for the 1G HD in my 760CD. Called in on Tue., got a box Wed., put it in with notes of the problem, sent in the same day. Got a call from EasyServe Thur. saying "we need to give you a new HD, is it ok?". Sure I said... Friday I got the machine back. Everything is cool, plus a new slim/faster drive (minus the data of course). On top of that, I got a new 6X CD ROM!! CMK From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 13:59:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046216759; Sat, 24 May 1997 13:59:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10927; Sat, 24 May 1997 13:58:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 13:56:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10809; Sat, 24 May 1997 13:56:16 -0400 Received: from pion (dns1.po.com [204.178.220.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10798; Sat, 24 May 1997 13:56:11 -0400 Received: from DEFAULT (pol09.po.com) by pion (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27271; Sat, 24 May 1997 13:52:47 +0500 Message-Id: <338754C7.D4B@pol.net> Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 13:51:19 -0700 From: Patrick Hagan X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C (Win95; U; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: mouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am a new user of Windows 95, using a Thinkpad laptop. I am unable to change over to an external mouse, and can not seem to find the answer in the 'help' file. Any suggestions for me? Thanks. John Hagan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 17:00:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA065927618; Sat, 24 May 1997 17:00:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22869; Sat, 24 May 1997 16:59:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 16:57:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22744; Sat, 24 May 1997 16:57:36 -0400 Received: from ripper.engin.umich.edu (root@ripper.engin.umich.edu [141.213.8.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22734; Sat, 24 May 1997 16:57:32 -0400 Received: from ripper.engin.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ripper.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA02181; Sat, 24 May 1997 16:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 16:57:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Tim D. Strong" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: ask@linus.artech.se Subject: Re: DOCK II Stats In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Someone was asking about the Dock II. I have one. A general description. SCSI port, 1 1" 3.5 disk drive bay (you can buy an adapter to put a Thinkpad style CD-ROM in this bay) 1- half height bay. 2 ISA card slots, built in stereo audio, 2 PCMCIA card slots with space to accept one PCMCIA type IV (yeah I've never seen one either), and a copy of the same ports that are on the back of your thinkpad with the addition of a keyboard port and (I think) a floppy drive port extra. You need a shelf (sold seperately) to put a monitor on top. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 17:52:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA072020753; Sat, 24 May 1997 17:52:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26190; Sat, 24 May 1997 17:51:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 17:51:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26114; Sat, 24 May 1997 17:51:05 -0400 Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net (denmark-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26104; Sat, 24 May 1997 17:50:54 -0400 Received: from pool001-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool001-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.7.151]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA03568; Sat, 24 May 1997 14:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705242150.OAA03568@denmark.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Aaron W. Brown" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 24 May 96 14:47:09 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: mouse clicker is shot ! Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 26 Apr 1997 19:21:46 -0500, Aaron W. Brown wrote: >> >> hi ! i have a thinkpad 755cx, and the left mouse click is shot - only >> by pressing ~really~ hard can i get it to respond.... has anyone else >> experienced this ? is my only option to send the think away to IBM >> to replace it ? >> > >I have the same problem on my 755CD, but its not ~really~ hard, just harder than before. Dragging is the main problem. I'm still under warrenty, is this covered? Or is there an easy fix for this? > >Much more irritating than mouse recallibration. > >Aaron Brownaaron@designcraft.com > My mouse button works, but I had to tweak the little metal plate on top of the membrane switch itself. The whole button came loose, and it took me well over 2 weeks to find it. BTW, my machine is a 701cs, not a 755. IBM said it is covered for repairs under warrenty, but Hardserve told me it's the cost of the keyboard and $170 labor charge. I'd rather fix it myself then. Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 18:00:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA072621243; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:00:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27011; Sat, 24 May 1997 17:59:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 17:58:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26791; Sat, 24 May 1997 17:58:31 -0400 Received: from iceland.it.earthlink.net (iceland-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26781; Sat, 24 May 1997 17:58:26 -0400 Received: from pool001-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool001-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.7.151]) by iceland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA00174; Sat, 24 May 1997 14:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705242158.OAA00174@iceland.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "arifi@dmi.stevens-tech.edu" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 24 May 96 14:54:46 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 Audio/Speaker question+problem Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:18:07 -0400, M. Arifi Koseoglu wrote: > > >Hi ! > >I have a question (problem) regarding audio on a TP 701 CS. >Here is what happened: >On the weekend, my girlfriend (it is her machine) was playing >some audio files on the machine, running off the battery. Well, >apparently the battery was almost exhausted, and a message appeared >saying to save and exit applications since the machine will power >itself down. (She is using windows 3.11, btw) Well, she attempted to >connect the power adapter, but before that the machine aborted the >audio program, and shut down. When she powered it on after connecting >the power, windows complained about some missing DLL files, she >does not remember the exact names for (probably audio drivers). >They attempted to restore them from a diskette etc., now windows does >not complain about missing DLLs anymore, but the speaker does not >work properly: it produces no or very very quiet sound, occasionally >with some buzzing. > >What are your suggestions as to what happened ? What possible fixes >would you suggest ? > >Thanks in advance, >Arifi > >-- >Arifi Koseoglu >arifi@dmi.stevens-tech.edu > I have a 701cs and can still play wave files, midi, etc., but my internal speaker is shot. All I remember is that it stopped working after using AOL for Win3.11 one day. I don't know if they were related, but that's what I remember. I got the speaker to work a few times several months ago by poking it with a screw driver, but it really doesn't respond all that well. You could take it in for Easyserve, but they may use you as the scapegoat, as in my situation of sending it in last week, and having nothing repaired. Regards, Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 18:02:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA072831349; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:02:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27502; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:01:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 18:00:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27206; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:00:27 -0400 Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27129; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:00:12 -0400 Received: from pool001-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool001-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.7.151]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17505; Sat, 24 May 1997 14:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705242159.OAA17505@sweden.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Joseph Pugliese" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 24 May 96 14:56:22 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: thinkpad newsgroup Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:47:56 -0700, Joseph Pugliese wrote: >I found a thinkpad newsgroup which is practically empty. > the address is ibm.ibmpc.thinkpad > If everyone could send a copy of their newsletter post to that address it >could stimulate activity and we could have another good venue for thinkpad >users. >Joseph Pugliese >email:jpuglies@eye.microserve.com >jpuglies@pol.net >http:www.microserve.net/~jpuglies > How exactly do I get to that newsgroup and make a post? I've never done that before. Thanks, Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 18:05:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA073581507; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:05:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27920; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:04:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 18:03:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27845; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:03:33 -0400 Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net (denmark-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27809; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:03:23 -0400 Received: from pool001-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool001-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.7.151]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA06709 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 15:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705242203.PAA06709@denmark.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 24 May 96 14:59:50 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 23 Apr 97 21:19:05 +0800, Stephen Hosmer wrote: >The TP760Cd does have stereo speakers, and a great keyboard. It's just that we >don't have a floppy and CD at the same time. Or at least we don't untill IBM gets >some stock on the external floppy connection cable. > >Does anyone have a solution to allow use of the flop and CD together? > >On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:37:27 EDT, sirgwynz@juno.com wrote: > >>I'm not too sure what the Mwave board is about, but the 365 models are SB >>Pro compatible. >>It would've been nice tho to have 2 built in speakers for the stereo, >>much like the Sharp laptops, >>but only if could be done without sacrificing the keyboard :) > Has anyone checked out the ThinkPad 380? I think I heard from tech support that it comes with up to a 13" LCD and a 3.0GB HD. Don't quote me on this, however, because I don't remember for sure. Regards, Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 18:32:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA076073138; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:32:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00162; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:31:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 18:30:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29884; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:30:22 -0400 Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net (denmark-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29864; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:30:16 -0400 Received: from pool001-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool001-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.7.151]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA12796; Sat, 24 May 1997 15:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705242229.PAA12796@denmark.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Joseph Pugliese" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 24 May 96 15:26:30 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: thinkpad numbers Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 21 Apr 1997 06:32:14 -0700, Joseph Pugliese wrote: >I'm new to Thinkpad. Can anyone tell me how to find out what all these >model numbers mean. I have no idea what features they have by their >numbers. Is there somewhere that I can find this out . >Joseph Pugliese >email:jpuglies@eye.microserve.com >jpuglies@pol.net >http:www.microserve.net/~jpuglies > What operating system(s) do you have? I could send you a "ThinkPad Assistant" program, which has info on almost all the ThinkPads (my version is a few months old, though). Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 18:43:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA077463810; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:43:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00905; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:42:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 18:41:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00758; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:41:10 -0400 Received: from italy.it.earthlink.net (italy-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00744; Sat, 24 May 1997 18:40:54 -0400 Received: from pool067-max3.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool067-max3.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.8.142]) by italy.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAB22790 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 15:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705242240.PAB22790@italy.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 24 May 96 15:36:43 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 Display Problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A while back, I asked if anyone else who had a 701 complained of cracked or broken hinges. Have any of you out there who have had this problems also experiance backlight flickering and erratic hard drive movement? It used to always crash my machine until I disabled adapter resets in OS/2, but it still remains a threat for Linux, and for the hardware in general. Does anyone know of a solution, or a similar situation? Thanks, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 21:03:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA093472204; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:03:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08145; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:02:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 21:01:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08004; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:01:18 -0400 Received: from relay.mnsinc.com (root@relay1.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07933; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:01:11 -0400 Received: from mnsinc.com (wheeless.mnsinc.com [206.239.32.59]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25014 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <33878FDD.1D1F@mnsinc.com> Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 21:03:25 -0400 From: Karen Wheeless Reply-To: wheeless@mnsinc.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Dock 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Surplus Direct has a pretty amazing price on a Dock 1 station ($49.99). It says it is for 360's, 370's, 750's, 755's, and 760's. Does anybody know if the Dock 1 can be used for 701C's? If so, is it worthwhile if your most common working surface for the TP is your lap? Thanks for any help, Karen Wheeless wheeless@mnsinc.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 21:52:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA100175156; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:52:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11094; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:51:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 21:50:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11007; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:50:52 -0400 Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (brickbat9.mindspring.com [207.69.200.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10997; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:50:47 -0400 Received: from jschwartz (user-37kb95l.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.181]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA21794; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970524214920.00fd3618@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jeffsnc@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 21:49:20 -0400 To: Patrick Hagan , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jeffrey Schwartz Subject: Re: mouse In-Reply-To: <338754C7.D4B@pol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What type of mouse are you using on what type of thinkpad. If it is a ser mouse then the serial port is mostlikely disabled. You will need to go into TP Features or setup, depending on model & enable the serial port. This will mostlikely disable the IR. If it is a PS/2 Mouse then all you should have to do is plug it in. At 01:51 PM 5/24/97 -0700, Patrick Hagan wrote: >I am a new user of Windows 95, using a Thinkpad laptop. I am unable to >change over to an external mouse, and can not seem to find the answer in >the 'help' file. Any suggestions for me? Thanks. > >John Hagan > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 24 21:56:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA100505413; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:56:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11710; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:56:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 24 May 1997 21:55:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11605; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:55:26 -0400 Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (brickbat9.mindspring.com [207.69.200.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11589; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:55:22 -0400 Received: from jschwartz (user-37kb95l.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.181]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA22802; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970524215403.00fdd118@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jeffsnc@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 21:54:03 -0400 To: wheeless@mnsinc.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jeffrey Schwartz Subject: Re: Dock 1 In-Reply-To: <33878FDD.1D1F@mnsinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Not useable with the 701. What you need is the dock 2. You will also need to get a adapter card for it to work. The dock 2 has also been discountined & should be available at a discount. At 09:03 PM 5/24/97 -0400, Karen Wheeless wrote: >Surplus Direct has a pretty amazing price on a Dock 1 station ($49.99). >It says it is for 360's, 370's, 750's, 755's, and 760's. Does anybody >know if the Dock 1 can be used for 701C's? If so, is it worthwhile if >your most common working surface for the TP is your lap? > >Thanks for any help, > >Karen Wheeless >wheeless@mnsinc.com > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 25 02:05:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA132770318; Sun, 25 May 1997 02:05:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27352; Sun, 25 May 1997 02:04:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 25 May 1997 02:01:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27226; Sun, 25 May 1997 02:01:40 -0400 Received: from siva.captech.com (siva.captech.com [207.33.153.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27216; Sun, 25 May 1997 02:01:36 -0400 From: Received: from localhost (kensey@localhost) by siva.captech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA25038; Sat, 24 May 1997 23:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 23:01:13 -0700 (PDT) To: "Tim D. Strong" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, ask@linus.artech.se Subject: Re: DOCK II Stats In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu i have the shelf. dont need it though .... anyone want one for $30.00 ? doug On Sat, 24 May 1997, Tim D. Strong wrote: > > Someone was asking about the Dock II. I have one. > > A general description. > > SCSI port, 1 1" 3.5 disk drive bay (you can buy an adapter to put > a Thinkpad style CD-ROM in this bay) 1- half height bay. 2 ISA card > slots, built in stereo audio, 2 PCMCIA card slots with space to accept > one PCMCIA type IV (yeah I've never seen one either), and a copy of the > same ports that are on the back of your thinkpad with the addition of a > keyboard port and (I think) a floppy drive port extra. > > You need a shelf (sold seperately) to put a monitor on top. > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 25 16:03:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA217870628; Sun, 25 May 1997 16:03:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04023; Sun, 25 May 1997 16:02:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 25 May 1997 15:59:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03793; Sun, 25 May 1997 15:59:52 -0400 Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03783; Sun, 25 May 1997 15:59:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199705251959.PAA03783@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from p_machule.triumf.ca (ppp06.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Sun, 25 May 1997 12:55:49 PST From: "Peter Machule " To: , Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 11:55:47 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ---------- > From: laniear@ibm.net > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: RE: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers > Date: Friday, May 23, 1997 11:28 PM > > > > > > NOT even close ...RE: p75 performance > > The 701 is/was a lovely machine but SLOW. > > I don't have one; but all benchmarks I have seen > > (mainly PC Mag which tend to be the only meaningfull ones ..sigh) > > indicated poor performance for it's class. > > I DO have a 701C ThinkPad and while it is slower than my Pentium and Pentium PRO it's plenty > fast for the stuff I do when I take it out to client locations. I worked with several people > who had Toshiba Pentium portables and for what we were all doing there was no substantial > difference in the time required to do our work. > > From my perspective what is important is whether the machine I use slows me down and so far > this one does not. > > Lee > > ||----------------------------------------------------------|| > || Lee Laniear || > || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || > || || > ||----------------------------------------------------------|| I concur... My 360CE is only a 486DX2-50. For the WEB browsing,e-mail and gently correcting the great unwashed on usenet ;-} ; it's fine. For Video capture it's both amazingly good and frustratingly slow. Capture using the $80 NEC/Nogatech Capturevision card is fine...ish. But post compresion, especially with Intel's Indio 4.1 is maddening. For reference I have both a Pentium Class AMD K5 PR-133 and a Cyrix 6x86 PR-150. Since neither has a PCMCIA slot direct comparisons are impossible. Next week maybe not : Tiger is dumping the EPSON combined PCMCIA card reader/1.44 Mb Floppy for $50. Anyway post compresion on those machines is MUCH faster. Why anyone would want to do Video capture on a old laptop is a completely different issue (grin). Hint: Netmeeting /Inernet Phone Stuff etc ....Watching Mobile TV.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 26 10:41:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA049167685; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:41:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01607; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:40:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 26 May 1997 10:35:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01260; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:35:15 -0400 Received: from mail.microserve.net (mail.microserve.net [207.44.0.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01246; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:35:10 -0400 Received: from eye.microserve.net (eye.microserve.com [198.70.182.26]) by mail.microserve.net (8.8.5/naISPa) with ESMTP id KAA06628 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705261434.KAA06628@mail.microserve.net> From: "Joseph Pugliese" To: "thinkpad submissions" Subject: Help: attempted to add external mouse lost use of modem Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 10:35:35 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A friend of mine lost use of his modem and asked me to submit this inquiry for him. He inquired on this discussion group about adding and external modem to his thinkpad. someone replied to him and when he made the recommended changes he lost use of his modem. Any help will be appreciated. Since he can't get on the internet just email to me and I will call him by phone. He has a 755cse and is using windows95 Joe Joseph Pugliese email:jpuglies@eye.microserve.com jpuglies@pol.net http:www.microserve.net/~jpuglies From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 26 10:47:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA050098053; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:47:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02335; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:45:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 26 May 1997 10:44:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02139; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:44:38 -0400 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02115; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:44:31 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA28375 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 09:43:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705261443.JAA28375@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com> Received: from mol-il1-05.ix.netcom.com(205.184.148.37) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma028355; Mon May 26 09:43:27 1997 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John Carmody" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 09:41:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: 760ED Suspend & Hibernation Features Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm confused now after installing the latest BIOS on my 760ED, just how to envoke the suspend or hibernation from windows 95? We observe some bad behavior: 1. sometimes the machine goes into suspend (observing the middle green light is lit, cover closed, then it will suddenly "wake up" without opening the cover, then shut down for several minute, then wake up again. 2. sometimes we bring the machine up from a cold start, go into windows 95, use a program for a while, and the machine goes into suspend by itself. We shut down, come back up and sometimes the behavior repeats, sometimes we are OK for a couple of days. This is really a pain for my wife when she is using it for text-to-speech in public. She depends on the machine to speak for her and is frustrated because she feels it is something she is doing. In these cases she is using it on battery power, and it is true that she has this occur more than me, so we are given to believe being off the power mains is part of the problem. We lived with this for 6 months of ownership while using the original BIOS that came with the machine because we read of others experiencing similar symptoms. Then several months ago we heard about the new BIOS, loaded it, and thought things were OK, but not so. Now the symptoms are less frequent, but troublesome none the less. Does anyone have a suggestion, please? -- John Carmody E-mail: oam@ix.netcom.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 26 12:32:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA061744367; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:32:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11171; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:31:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 26 May 1997 12:30:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10910; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:30:27 -0400 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10892; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:30:23 -0400 Received: from jmcghee.cyberramp.net (dal-tsa2-p1-52.cyberramp.net [207.158.82.116]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5/ler-0524-1312-NR) with SMTP id LAA02328; Mon, 26 May 1997 11:30:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3389BA8D.2667@cyberramp.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:30:05 -0500 From: Jim McGhee X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: John Carmody Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760ED Suspend & Hibernation Features References: <199705261443.JAA28375@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Call EZ Serve. When I had a problem just like yours on my 701 they replaced the system board. Jim McGhee John Carmody wrote: > > I'm confused now after installing the latest BIOS on my 760ED, just > how to envoke the suspend or hibernation from windows 95? We observe > some bad behavior: > > 1. sometimes the machine goes into suspend (observing the middle > green light is lit, cover closed, then it will suddenly "wake > up" without opening the cover, then shut down for several > minute, then wake up again. > > 2. sometimes we bring the machine up from a cold start, go into > windows 95, use a program for a while, and the machine goes into > suspend by itself. We shut down, come back up and sometimes the > behavior repeats, sometimes we are OK for a couple of days. > > This is really a pain for my wife when she is using it for > text-to-speech in public. She depends on the machine to speak for > her and is frustrated because she feels it is something she is doing. > In these cases she is using it on battery power, and it is true that > she has this occur more than me, so we are given to believe being off > the power mains is part of the problem. > > We lived with this for 6 months of ownership while using the original > BIOS that came with the machine because we read of others > experiencing similar symptoms. Then several months ago we heard > about the new BIOS, loaded it, and thought things were OK, but not > so. Now the symptoms are less frequent, but troublesome none the > less. Does anyone have a suggestion, please? > > -- > John Carmody > E-mail: oam@ix.netcom.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 27 11:52:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA213228368; Tue, 27 May 1997 11:52:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14016; Tue, 27 May 1997 11:49:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 27 May 1997 11:39:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12931; Tue, 27 May 1997 11:39:50 -0400 Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12919; Tue, 27 May 1997 11:39:35 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 38afd970; Tue, 27 May 97 11:28:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 11:27:50 -0400 Message-Id: <38afd970@doblegate.doble.com> Subject: Re: Dock 1 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Karen Wheeless Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I am alittle confused. When they say a Dock 1 will work with the 360s Thinkpad does this include the 365ed? 73 Eric ericc@doble.com WB1HBU From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 27 14:53:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA248239227; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:53:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29195; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:50:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 27 May 1997 14:45:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28635; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:45:23 -0400 Received: from suntan.tandem.com (suntan.tandem.com [192.216.221.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28602; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:45:15 -0400 Received: from adm.loc201.tandem.com by suntan.tandem.com (8.6.12/suntan5.970212) for id LAA06062; Tue, 27 May 1997 11:45:06 -0700 Received: from marmoset.loc201.tandem.com by adm.loc201.tandem.com (4.1/6main.940209) id AA06932; Tue, 27 May 97 11:45:04 PDT Received: by marmoset.loc201.tandem.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC6A93.3DE0A300@marmoset.loc201.tandem.com>; Tue, 27 May 1997 11:43:49 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC6A93.3DE0A300@marmoset.loc201.tandem.com> From: Chris DiBona To: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: Linux and 701 Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 11:43:47 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello Paul... Which kernal are you running? I've got 2.0.29 on my thinkpad 701-cs = (Same as yours) and have no problems with any of these functions. = (althought the only apmish type things I do are fn-f4!) Sound pcmcia x = all work fine. So my suggestion is too check your verision! Chris -----Original Message----- From: Paul Khoury [SMTP:pkhoury@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 1996 4:56 PM To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Linux and 701 Does anybody here use Linux on a 701cs (dx4-75) besides myself? I can't = figure out how to install APM=20 support, and I've already tried upgrading the kernel to 2.0.27. I'm = having the same problem with PCMCIA and=20 the internal ESS688 AudioDrive chipset. Any suggestions? Do I need = additional packages? Thanks. Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 27 20:23:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046899025; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:23:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23010; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:20:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 27 May 1997 20:18:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22827; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:18:33 -0400 Received: from tky0.attnet.or.jp (tky0.attnet.or.jp [165.76.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22808; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:18:28 -0400 Received: from compaq (40.gate7.tokyo.attnet.or.jp [165.76.17.152]) by tky0.attnet.or.jp (8.7.5+Spin/3.4W4-PP-R5(05/15/97)) id JAA14042; Wed, 28 May 1997 09:18:23 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199705280018.JAA14042@tky0.attnet.or.jp> From: "Maiko Kobayashi" To: Subject: IBM ThinkPad Warranty: USA vs. Japan Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 09:16:53 +0900 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I hope some members of this list can help me with the following questions. In Japan the ThinkPad 760 models come with a one-year warranty, as opposed to the standard three-year warranty in the United States. If I buy a 760 in Japan and take it with me to the United States, can I get warranty coverage for three years? Also, does IBM offer extended warranty plans for models with a standard one-year warranty, such as the new 380 models? Thank you for your help. Friedrich Huebler via mkobay@tky0.attnet.or.jp From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 27 21:30:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA065423051; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:30:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26805; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:28:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 27 May 1997 21:27:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26680; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:26:58 -0400 Received: from brickbat8.mindspring.com (brickbat8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26652; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:26:39 -0400 Received: from jschwartz (user-37kb98h.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.165.17]) by brickbat8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA03745; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970527212539.00fc7830@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jeffsnc@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 21:25:39 -0400 To: "Joseph Pugliese" , "thinkpad submissions" From: Jeffrey Schwartz Subject: Re: Help: attempted to add external mouse lost use of modem In-Reply-To: <199705261434.KAA06628@mail.microserve.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Press & hold F1 on boot, select configure & then inalized, That will return the Hardware to the factory defaults. You need to make sure that there are no ports that have a red X because of no check mark in device useage. At 10:35 AM 5/26/97 -0700, Joseph Pugliese wrote: >A friend of mine lost use of his modem and asked me to submit this inquiry >for him. He inquired on this discussion group about adding and external >modem to his thinkpad. someone replied to him and when he made the >recommended changes he lost use of his modem. Any help will be appreciated. >Since he can't get on the internet just email to me and I will call him by >phone. > He has a 755cse and is using windows95 >Joe > > > >Joseph Pugliese >email:jpuglies@eye.microserve.com >jpuglies@pol.net >http:www.microserve.net/~jpuglies > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 27 21:39:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA068213548; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:39:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27565; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:37:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 27 May 1997 21:36:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27472; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:36:54 -0400 Received: from brickbat8.mindspring.com (brickbat8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27454; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:36:44 -0400 Received: from jschwartz (user-37kb98h.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.165.17]) by brickbat8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA08115; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:36:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970527213521.00fd2590@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jeffsnc@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 21:35:21 -0400 To: , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Karen Wheeless From: Jeffrey Schwartz Subject: Re: Dock 1 In-Reply-To: <38afd970@doblegate.doble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu No At 11:27 AM 5/27/97 -0400, ecottrell@doble.com wrote: > Hello, > > I am alittle confused. When they say a Dock 1 will work with the 360s > Thinkpad does this include the 365ed? > > 73 Eric ericc@doble.com WB1HBU > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 27 23:39:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA112290760; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:39:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03602; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:37:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 27 May 1997 23:35:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03360; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:35:19 -0400 Received: from unexexch.unex.ucla.edu (exchange.unex.ucla.edu [128.97.115.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03342; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:35:16 -0400 Received: by unexexch.unex.ucla.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC6ADD.5400B360@unexexch.unex.ucla.edu>; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:34:08 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Swartz, Charles" To: "'ThinkPad Newsgroup'" Subject: 4 MBPS IrDA for 560 Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 20:31:56 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is probably a sure "no," but I notice IBM is OEM'ing the 4 MBPS IrDA chips. Any way they can put one in my 560 in place of the existing 115 KBPS ? Many thanks. Charles S. Swartz Program Manager Department of Entertainment Studies and Performing Arts UCLA Extension 310-825-9634 Phone 310-206-7435 Fax cswartz@unex.ucla.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 28 01:03:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA136905794; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:03:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08057; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:02:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 28 May 1997 01:00:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07696; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:00:00 -0400 Received: from italy.it.earthlink.net ([204.250.46.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07678; Wed, 28 May 1997 00:59:51 -0400 Received: from pool074-max4.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool074-max4.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.21.74]) by italy.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00480; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705280459.VAA00480@italy.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Dan Cook" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Tue, 27 May 97 18:04:30 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: win95 on TP 701c Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 21 Apr 97 11:27:29 -0500, Dan Cook wrote: >I am in the process of setting up an IBM ThinkPad 701 with win95. > Looking for any advice from people who have done this. Thus far >I have formated the drive and performed teh installation, but now >themachine hangs on the startup screen. I have seen on the >factory setup machines a PCMCIA Director. Where can I find this? > Any help grewtly appreciated. > Try IBM's Web site, www.us.pc.ibm.com, and go to the ThinkPad drivers section. Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 28 04:50:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA199009456; Wed, 28 May 1997 04:50:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19662; Wed, 28 May 1997 04:49:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 28 May 1997 04:48:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19532; Wed, 28 May 1997 04:48:50 -0400 Received: from Komma.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de [160.45.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19521; Wed, 28 May 1997 04:48:43 -0400 Received: by Komma.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2) from localhost with smtp id ; Wed, 28 May 1997 10:32:30 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:32:30 +0200 (MEST) From: Christoph Eyrich X-Sender: eyrich@komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de To: Maiko Kobayashi Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM ThinkPad Warranty: USA vs. Japan In-Reply-To: <199705280018.JAA14042@tky0.attnet.or.jp> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 28 May 1997, Maiko Kobayashi wrote: > warranty coverage for three years? Also, does IBM offer extended warranty > plans for models with a standard one-year warranty, such as the new 380 > models? This depends on the model. For the 560, for instance, you can extend the warranty to three years (at least in the US and in Germany. Here in Germany it is about DM 250, approx. US$ 180). For some models IBM offers an extension of the warranty up to five years. See the IBM announcement: >>>>>>> quote >>>>>>>>>>> Service Options for Selected IBM ThinkPad Products Services Announcement May 13, 1997 Announcement Letter Number: 697-012 IBM introduces service options designed to provide low-cost service coverage during the first five years of ownership for selected IBM ThinkPad (R) products. These service options are designed to reduce the cost of ownership of your IBM ThinkPad. >>>>>>>>> end of quote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 28 12:32:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA025547147; Wed, 28 May 1997 12:32:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25302; Wed, 28 May 1997 12:29:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 28 May 1997 12:23:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24577; Wed, 28 May 1997 12:23:44 -0400 Received: from netcom17.netcom.com (phr@netcom17.netcom.com [192.100.81.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24551; Wed, 28 May 1997 12:23:26 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom17.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA01400; Wed, 28 May 1997 09:23:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 09:23:18 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199705281623.JAA01400@netcom17.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 4 mbps irda on 560 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It's very unlikely that you can upgrade the built-in irda port on your 560 to 4 mbps. 115 kbps irda is common because it looks like a standard async port to the computer. 4 mbps is different. Generally laptop vendors don't do upgrades like this. They come out with new models all the time instead. It's possible that some 4 mbps irda interfaces in pcmcia cards will start shipping at some point. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 29 13:12:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA180395936; Thu, 29 May 1997 13:12:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14798; Thu, 29 May 1997 13:10:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 29 May 1997 13:05:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14296; Thu, 29 May 1997 13:05:22 -0400 Received: from julian.uwo.ca (julian.uwo.ca [129.100.2.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14286; Thu, 29 May 1997 13:05:19 -0400 Received: from localhost by panther.uwo.ca with SMTP id NAA11963; Thu, 29 May 1997 13:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 13:04:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "J. Starkey" X-Sender: jstarkey@panther.uwo.ca To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re Compatibility of third party hard disks and TP701 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Recently my ThinkPad 701 cs stopped accessing the hard drive - it just did not recognize the hard drive even if booted from a floppy. I sent it to EasyServ who suggested that the third party hard disk, a 1.08 gb from Microsense, had "blown" the system board - which they repaired. The 701 was only meant to handle up to a 720 mb disk from IBM! Is this reasonable? Have others had similar disastrous compatibility problems? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Starkey, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada N6A 3B7 tel: (519) 661 3185 fax: (519) 661 3198 e-mail: jstarkey@julian.uwo.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 29 14:55:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA219122158; Thu, 29 May 1997 14:55:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20720; Thu, 29 May 1997 14:53:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 29 May 1997 14:52:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20495; Thu, 29 May 1997 14:52:39 -0400 Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20485; Thu, 29 May 1997 14:52:36 -0400 From: Received: from uucp2.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp2.UU.NET [192.48.96.40]) id QQcrqx03935; Thu, 29 May 1997 14:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw.UUCP by uucp2.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 29 May 1997 14:52:34 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailgw.wellspringres.com id AA864942478 Thu, 29 May 97 14:47:58 Date: Thu, 29 May 97 14:47:58 Message-Id: <9704298649.AA864942478@mailgw.wellspringres.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, "J. Starkey" Subject: Re: re Compatibility of third party hard disks and TP701 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It's only one data point, and not disastrous to boot (sorry) but I've been running with a 1.3 GB Toshiba drive for 1+ yr. in a TP701cs with out any apparent difficulties. Actually, there is one, seemingly, minor discrepancy, that being the setup page with the hard disk capacity has the hard drive as something like 295 MB - my guess is that the field can only handle three characters. There are other s/w utilities that can't exactly agree on the size of the drive, a point I find hard to understand, but there all in the 1.28 to 1.3 range as I recall. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: re Compatibility of third party hard disks and TP701 Author: "J. Starkey" at Internet Date: 5/29/97 1:04 PM Recently my ThinkPad 701 cs stopped accessing the hard drive - it just did not recognize the hard drive even if booted from a floppy. I sent it to EasyServ who suggested that the third party hard disk, a 1.08 gb from Microsense, had "blown" the system board - which they repaired. The 701 was only meant to handle up to a 720 mb disk from IBM! Is this reasonable? Have others had similar disastrous compatibility problems? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Starkey, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada N6A 3B7 tel: (519) 661 3185 fax: (519) 661 3198 e-mail: jstarkey@julian.uwo.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 29 16:58:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA260599522; Thu, 29 May 1997 16:58:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27965; Thu, 29 May 1997 16:57:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 29 May 1997 16:55:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27787; Thu, 29 May 1997 16:55:57 -0400 Received: from cyberplus.ca (cyberplus.ca [204.191.105.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27774; Thu, 29 May 1997 16:55:55 -0400 Received: from host ([204.191.105.102]) by cyberplus.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA14888; Thu, 29 May 1997 16:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705292055.QAA14888@cyberplus.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc. To: Fabian Rodriguez Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 16:55:23 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems Reply-To: tom@act.ca Cc: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <01BC62BA.12655080@17-0025.residence.usherb.ca> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Apparently the SP2 is an OEM release only. But all the pieces (none doing with my display problem) are on the MS site. so checkout http:/www.microsoft.com and check the win95 updates section. Haven't installed them all, so no word on the 701 hi-colour (Canadian, eh?) problem. I just go into the config & out again to fix it. On 17 May 97 at 12:01, Fabian Rodriguez wrote: > Gwo? Let me know if SP2 is and where it is... didnt find it.. > > ---------- > From: Tom Trottier[SMTP:tom@act.ca] > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 1997 4:22 AM > To: Dan Miles > Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems > > On 3 May 97 at 15:55, Dan Miles wrote: > > Thanks for the work-around & the solution. I didn't think that the > SP 2 was out yet. I'll check the MS site. > > Thanks, Tom _________________ Tom Trottier, tom@act.ca +1 613 594-4829 fax 594-8944 199 Holmwood Ave Ottawa ON Canada K1S 2P3 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 29 16:59:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA260759545; Thu, 29 May 1997 16:59:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27969; Thu, 29 May 1997 16:57:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 29 May 1997 16:56:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27823; Thu, 29 May 1997 16:56:13 -0400 Received: from cyberplus.ca (cyberplus.ca [204.191.105.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27804; Thu, 29 May 1997 16:56:06 -0400 Received: from host ([204.191.105.102]) by cyberplus.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA14881; Thu, 29 May 1997 16:55:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705292055.QAA14881@cyberplus.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc. To: "Ellis, Mark E." , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 16:55:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Help: Best way to migrate a Win95 install to another drive?? Reply-To: tom@act.ca Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <01099F4A226FD011902A00A0249C6F9555972E@pica-emh1.pica.army.mil> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The method we took at SHL Systemhouse was just to copy over a vanilla installation and let Win 95's "add hardware" handle any differences. Copy the CD's Win95 directory to the new HD to avoid any CD ROM issues. On 5 May 97 at 22:52, Ellis, Mark E. wrote: > I agree. Ghost is the best. > > -- Mark > > > ---------- > > From: Tom Kustner[SMTP:tom.kustner@emjay.com] > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 1997 10:28 PM > > To: Michael Cummings > > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Re: Help: Best way to migrate a Win95 install to another > > drive?? > > > > Go to http://www.ghostsoft.com. They have a product called GHOST, > > which works excellent for us for cloning Win95 machines. We tried the > > 30-day trial and it worked fabulous. Ghost can clone to the server > > and back, or through two LPT ports. It also works for Win95, OS/2, > > and Windows NT. It copied off our 110MB Win95 setup in 3.5 minutes on > > our network and brings it back at the same speed. > > > > Tom Kustner > > > > Note: The company that makes it happens to be in Milwaukee, where I > > am. But otherwise, there's no relationship. This is the best tool I > > know of for cloning PCs with OS's that have long filenames. > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 4 May 1997 19:35:54 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > > > > > > > >Hi.... > > > > > >I have just received a new drive for my 701c and am trying to > > mirgrate a > > >win95 install to the new drive and have not had a lot of luck. > > > > > >I don't want to do a fresh install since the install on the old drive > > > > >works great. > > > > > >Things I've tried; > > > > > >1. did a microsoft backup of the old drive, stored it on another > > machine, > > > did a fresh install on a "d" partion to enable me to restore the > > > backup on "c", deleted the install on "d". nada.... > > > > > >2. did above again but this time xcopied (using /s/e/f/h/r/k > > switches) a > > > prior xcopied (same switches) tree that I had stored on another > > > system (via networking). > > > > > >3. some other slight varations on the above. > > > > > >What I hve access to to try to complete this; > > > > > >1. The old drive and it's file system. > > >2. A microsoft backup of the old drive. > > >3. A full copy of the complete drive stored on another system copied > > using > > > xcopy run under win95 dos box (xcopy32) with the above switches. > > > > > >Thanks for any input. > > > > > >Michael Cummings > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------ > > Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation > > System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. > > Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA > > Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. > > > Thanks, Tom _________________ Tom Trottier, tom@act.ca +1 613 594-4829 fax 594-8944 199 Holmwood Ave Ottawa ON Canada K1S 2P3 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 29 22:48:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA076410497; Thu, 29 May 1997 22:48:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12986; Thu, 29 May 1997 22:46:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 29 May 1997 22:44:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12871; Thu, 29 May 1997 22:44:36 -0400 Received: from AST01.ligsystems.com (slip166-72-214-124.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.214.124]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12860; Thu, 29 May 1997 22:44:32 -0400 Received: by AST01.ligsystems.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id TAA001.79; Thu, 29 May 1997 19:44:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199705292344.TAA001.79@AST01.ligsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 29 May 97 19:39:56 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: re Compatibility of third party hard disks and TP701 X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <178_151_4_864949196> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > The 701 > was only meant to handle up to a 720 mb disk from IBM! > > Is this reasonable? No! Last year I bought a 1.05GB drive which is fully supported by IBM and is included in the three year warranty for my 701C. One thing which is interesting though is that the setup page does not report the full size of the drive but shows only three digits, as someone else reported. Lee ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 30 03:11:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA151226295; Fri, 30 May 1997 03:11:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21714; Fri, 30 May 1997 03:10:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 30 May 1997 03:09:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21561; Fri, 30 May 1997 03:09:27 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21550; Fri, 30 May 1997 03:09:21 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA06030; Thu, 29 May 97 21:09:18 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA25622; Thu, 29 May 1997 21:10:15 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199705300710.VAA25622@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: re Compatibility of third party hard disks and TP701 To: jstarkey@julian.uwo.ca (J. Starkey) Date: Thu, 29 May 97 21:10:14 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "J. Starkey" at May 29, 97 1:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I had the same problem with the IBM 340 meg disk, and attempts to fix by putting in new system boards didn't help. I think that the 701 is just not very robust when it comes to hard drive access. - David > Recently my ThinkPad 701 cs stopped accessing the hard drive - it just did > not recognize the hard drive even if booted from a floppy. I sent it to > EasyServ who suggested that the third party hard disk, a 1.08 gb from > Microsense, had "blown" the system board - which they repaired. The 701 > was only meant to handle up to a 720 mb disk from IBM! > > Is this reasonable? Have others had similar disastrous compatibility > problems? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 30 03:24:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA154987086; Fri, 30 May 1997 03:24:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22754; Fri, 30 May 1997 03:23:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 30 May 1997 03:22:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22680; Fri, 30 May 1997 03:22:38 -0400 Received: from mail3.isomedia.com (mail3.isomedia.com [204.157.237.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22670; Fri, 30 May 1997 03:22:33 -0400 Received: from pentium (pm5-005.isomedia.com [206.129.160.197]) by mail3.isomedia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA20792; Fri, 30 May 1997 00:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705300721.AAA20792@mail3.isomedia.com> From: "Bill Pratt" To: "J. Starkey" , Subject: Re: re Compatibility of third party hard disks and TP701 Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 00:20:38 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The 1 gig drive draws about 30% more current. I upgraded and have had no major problems. IBM has a point...but this would be hard to prove. I guess any drive could fail and take out the system board. Good luck. Bill Pratt, Bellevue, WA (STOC#117) "No matter where you go...there you are!" Email - billp117@isomedia.com Homepage - http://www.isomedia.com/homes/billp117 ---------- > From: J. Starkey > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: re Compatibility of third party hard disks and TP701 > Date: Thursday, May 29, 1997 10:04 AM > > Recently my ThinkPad 701 cs stopped accessing the hard drive - it just did > not recognize the hard drive even if booted from a floppy. I sent it to > EasyServ who suggested that the third party hard disk, a 1.08 gb from > Microsense, had "blown" the system board - which they repaired. The 701 > was only meant to handle up to a 720 mb disk from IBM! > > Is this reasonable? Have others had similar disastrous compatibility > problems? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > John Starkey, Department of Earth Sciences, > University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada N6A 3B7 > tel: (519) 661 3185 fax: (519) 661 3198 e-mail: jstarkey@julian.uwo.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 30 09:02:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA243517338; Fri, 30 May 1997 09:02:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07207; Fri, 30 May 1997 09:00:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 30 May 1997 08:58:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07041; Fri, 30 May 1997 08:58:48 -0400 Received: from Komma.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de [160.45.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07003; Fri, 30 May 1997 08:58:38 -0400 Received: by Komma.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2) from localhost with smtp id ; Fri, 30 May 1997 14:48:52 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 14:48:52 +0200 (MEST) From: Christoph Eyrich X-Sender: eyrich@komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux XFree on TP 560 DS? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This has been asked before but perhaps the situation has changed: Has anyone got X running on a dual-scan TP 560? I don't know what exactly the problem is (because it was a non-issue on the 701CS) but, so far I haven't heard of success with the dual scan screen. By the way: I've just seen the new DS model (one of those that come with the 2GB drive) and it looks as good as an inferior TFT screen. I'd never thought that this could be achieved... Regards Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 31 10:14:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA076188085; Sat, 31 May 1997 10:14:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07111; Sat, 31 May 1997 10:13:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 31 May 1997 10:10:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06894; Sat, 31 May 1997 10:10:04 -0400 Received: from brickell.bridge.net (root@brickell.bridge.net [204.253.4.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06884; Sat, 31 May 1997 10:10:00 -0400 Received: from gmo (ppp-mia1-51.bridge.net [207.16.5.51]) by brickell.bridge.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03467 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 10:09:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199705311409.KAA03467@brickell.bridge.net> From: "Geovanny M. Ortiz" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: IBM Credit Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 10:07:07 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know the internet address for IBM Credit. I accessed it some time ago and purchased my 701CS from them, but I've lost the address. Thanks in advance for your responses From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 31 14:05:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA136141909; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:05:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12388; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:04:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 31 May 1997 14:03:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12277; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:03:08 -0400 Received: from osage.gate.net (root@osage.gate.net [199.227.0.142]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12267; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:03:05 -0400 Received: from dakota.gate.net (mgilula@dakota.gate.net [199.227.0.13]) by osage.gate.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA24702 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:03:02 -0400 Received: from localhost (mgilula@localhost) by dakota.gate.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA41086 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:03:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dakota.gate.net: mgilula owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:03:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Marshall Gilula To: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: 32 MB SIMM for TP755CD Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu is what I need. Chipmerchant, one reliable source, charges $329 anyone have a more economical reliable source of the RAM? tia -73- Marshall mgilula@gate.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 31 14:14:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA138862465; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:14:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13003; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:12:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 31 May 1997 14:11:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12919; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:11:46 -0400 Received: from brickell.bridge.net (root@brickell.bridge.net [204.253.4.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12906; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:11:41 -0400 Received: from gmo ([207.16.8.11]) by brickell.bridge.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13950 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:11:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199705311811.OAA13950@brickell.bridge.net> From: "Geovanny M. Ortiz" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: Re: IBM Credit Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:09:11 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks Dave, that's what I was looking for. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 31 14:17:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA139922634; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:17:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13393; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:15:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 31 May 1997 14:14:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13275; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:14:47 -0400 Received: from siva.captech.com (siva.captech.com [207.33.153.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13249; Sat, 31 May 1997 14:14:44 -0400 From: Received: from localhost (kensey@localhost) by siva.captech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA16315; Sat, 31 May 1997 11:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT) To: Marshall Gilula Cc: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: 32 MB SIMM for TP755CD In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu check out http://www.kingston.com/catalog/memory/ibm140.htm to get the part number for what you need, and send mail to sales@kingston.com for a quote. it may be cheaper. if not, you can always ask them to beat $329. On Sat, 31 May 1997, Marshall Gilula wrote: > is what I need. Chipmerchant, one reliable source, charges $329 > > anyone have a more economical reliable source of the RAM? > > tia > -73- > Marshall > > mgilula@gate.net > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 31 17:20:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA192203630; Sat, 31 May 1997 17:20:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18035; Sat, 31 May 1997 17:18:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 31 May 1997 17:16:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17911; Sat, 31 May 1997 17:16:39 -0400 Received: from megspo.megsinet.net (megspo.megsinet.net [208.150.60.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17901; Sat, 31 May 1997 17:16:33 -0400 Received: from randolphmax3-111.megsinet.net ([208.133.79.111]) by megspo.megsinet.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11704) with SMTP id AAA130; Sat, 31 May 1997 16:13:39 -0500 Received: by randolphmax3-111.megsinet.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC6DDD.ECBADB00@randolphmax3-111.megsinet.net>; Sat, 31 May 1997 16:15:58 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC6DDD.ECBADB00@randolphmax3-111.megsinet.net> From: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) To: tisol , "'David Ross'" Cc: "don@propilot.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: What laptops are for... was=>RE: CPU Upgrades - some real world numbers Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 12:48:32 -0500 Encoding: 58 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am a bit late on this thread.... The most important issue to consider and keep in mind is what fundamentally a laptop is all about. Laptops are about MOBILE PRODUCTIVITY. IMNSHO... the TP701 & TP560, and as well the Compaq Armada and the Digital HighNote VP are significant achievements for they maintain the optimum form factor. The 701 was the first REAL player, but unfortunately IBM seems to have taken a lateral instead of going the distance with the 560. Compaq and Digital are playing catch up, and made pretty good units as well. All are essentially light in weight, hovering about 4 lb., have enough resources to do most work and are reasonable on batteries. Its really too bad that ZD is almost as big as Microsloth in editorial power. Their claims of a laptop having as much power as desktops, or at least that they are approaching that threshold is really unfortunate. The techno-newbies eat that crap up and with money burning a hole in their pockets drive the price of laptops up and their availability down. Laptops will NEVER approach the power or functionality of a desktop. If you are on a limited budget, and fully realize the limitations of a laptop, fine, great, you are on the ball. You get a cookie. If you find yourself running multiple apps and using a laptop like a desktop you are better off with a desktop. The premium for a laptop is almost twice the cost of a desktop or more, save your bread, buy a nice monitor and enjoy the comforts of a real chair. If you REALLY need to carry the CDROM AND FLOPPY and an EXTRA battery to keep these devils fed then somewhere you are doing something wrong. The days of the suitcase computers unfortunately dwindling. What a novel concept these days to stuff a desktop into a mobile case and have a real computer to carry and park for your presentation or investigation session. They might make a come back with the realized reality of bigger LCD screens. I can't begin to tell you all how many people I see on the train playing freaking Solitare for their ride. Or better yet, using their CDROMS to play audio CD's. Man if you are toting around a $4k deck of cards or a really bad CD player, you probably have the quarter to buy a clue. As an engineer, for the most part, the most strenuous duty I would ever really expect my laptop to do is run video capture, data logging and PowerPoint type presentations. The rest is Word and Excel to get a jump on my day and make use of the hours that I spend commuting. Yes, I can run things like Autocad on the go, there were few occasions where it was 'handy' on my 701 but what a pain in the ass. I use little DOS engineering analysis applettes, but for the most part my 'tools' are spreadsheets and Mathematica workbooks on the go. The laptop side of the computer industry is for the most part playing catch up with the desktop market and battery technology. It always has, it always will. You can not reasonably expect a laptop to really compete against a desktop plugged into the wall. Period! We might see a PPro in a laptop, or a Klamath, but you might as well save up for the Go-Go-Gadget Pocket Fusion Reactor to keep those buggers fed as well. My two bits Dennis From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 31 18:47:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA216618858; Sat, 31 May 1997 18:47:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20605; Sat, 31 May 1997 18:46:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 31 May 1997 18:45:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20517; Sat, 31 May 1997 18:45:21 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20507; Sat, 31 May 1997 18:45:16 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA10414; Sat, 31 May 97 12:45:13 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA25858; Sat, 31 May 1997 12:46:11 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199705312246.MAA25858@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: What laptops are for... was=>RE: CPU Upgrades - some To: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) Date: Sat, 31 May 97 12:46:09 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) In-Reply-To: <01BC6DDD.ECBADB00@randolphmax3-111.megsinet.net>; from "Dennis Pantazis" at May 31, 97 12:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dennis wrote: > taken a lateral instead of going the distance with the 560. Compaq and > Digital are playing catch up, and made pretty good units as well. I assume that your omission of the smallest subnote - the HP - was accidental. > price of laptops up and their availability down. Laptops will NEVER > approach the power or functionality of a desktop. If you are on a limited I disagree. One of my laptops, A P133 Micron, is my main machine for statistical analysis, and is every bit as fast as the P133 desktop I occasionally use. I agree that today's laptops are slower than today's desktops, but they are as fast as last night's desktops. > I can't begin to tell you all how many people I see on the train playing > freaking Solitare for their ride. I don't see anything wrong with this. If you have to travel from A to B, are bored, and happen to have a computer with you, why *not* use it to play games? How is this different from doing the crossword in the paper? > engineering analysis applettes, but for the most part my 'tools' are > spreadsheets and Mathematica workbooks on the go. I don't use Mathematica much because it is so slow (even on my Sparc!), but I regularly use Maple and S+ on my laptops for serious work. The advantage of keeping a project on the laptop is that you don't have to keep transferring files >from one platform to another as you move from home to office to meeting. Incidentally, while you and I might have several machines, for many people (especially college undergraduates) the laptop will be the only machine, and it is entirely reasonable that they try to make them run as fast as they can - hence this thread. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 31 22:39:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA279882768; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:39:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25276; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:38:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 31 May 1997 22:37:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25168; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:37:54 -0400 Received: from ns2.interserf.net (root@ns2.interserf.net [205.244.8.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25158; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:37:52 -0400 Received: from serfer56.interserf.net (serfer56.interserf.net [205.244.8.245]) by ns2.interserf.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA17400 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:40:24 -0400 Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:40:24 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970531224134.2ee78ac4@mail.interserf.net> X-Sender: vicgonzlez@mail.interserf.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Vic Gonzalez Subject: Status: Linux install on 701C Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu All- Thank you all for your help to-date. Thought I'd mention the highlights/lowlights of my recent Linux install. As you will see I still have more to go (and learn). I started with Redhat 4.1 . Seemed like a nice package that mentioned PCMCIA SCSI in the install sequence (manual). Looked like a piece of cake......it wasn't, of course. When using the floppies provided, PCMCIA devices just couldn't be found by Redhat's "probe". I was stuck, until I brought my system up under Win3.1 (using "System Commander") and then exited to DOS. This kept my CDRom connected, from which I ran the "autoboot" program from the Linux CD. Result: Install worked like a charm and afterword even booted >from scratch recognizing my Adaptec 1460 PCMCIA SCSI and mounted my CDRom. Thanks goes out to John Kim. Your XF86Config file worked great. That's about as far as I've progressed. I HAVE YET TO: - Successfully connect to my ISP, though I have successfully logged in using minicom. I just can't access the connection. I think I still have some network configuration to do. Sort of reminds me of my experiences with W95. I still can't get my W95 applications to connect successfully after dialup. I am using all 16bit net apps in W95 as workaround. - Successfully access my SCSI Zip drive. - Successfully mount my floppy. - Test my audio This has been a fairly painless experience (and alot of fun). Useful programs include Partition Magic, and as mentioned above, System Commander. I am currently running 3.1, W95 and Linux from my local 720Mb drive. If anyone has any suggestions or solutions to above issues, I'd welcome your input. Thanks again to all those who have helped. -Vic Gonzalez