From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 00:20:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18412; Wed, 1 Nov 95 00:20:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05417; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:19:13 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:16:24 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA04942; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:16:21 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA13628 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id VAA05731 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:16:16 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511010516.VAA05731@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: TP 750C Price/Value? To: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:16:13 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know that there was anything really said, but I recall one person asking what his TP 750C was worth. Anyone care to hazard some estimates? Just thinking of selling as a 701 might serve my purposes better (and lighten my load!). ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 00:20:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18418; Wed, 1 Nov 95 00:20:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05437; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:19:23 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:18:43 -0500 Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05323; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:18:34 -0500 Received: (from dchan@localhost) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA29737 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:18:20 -0500 From: "Derek V. Chan" Message-Id: <199511010518.AAA29737@kalypso.cybercom.net> Subject: RFD: comp.sys.laptops.ibm-thinkpad (submitted) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:18:20 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Below is the text of the message which was submitted... === REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group comp.sys.laptop.ibm-thinkpad This is a formal Request for Discussion for the creation of the unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.laptop.ibm-thinkpad This is not a Call for Votes - do not vote now. To participate in the discussion follow the topic on news.groups. Please do not discuss the group creation in other groups - it will most probably be off topic there. Newsgroup line: comp.sys.laptop.ibm-thinkpad Discussion about IBM Thinkpads RATIONALE: comp.sys.laptop.ibm-thinkpad In the past years, the IBM Thinkpad, the notebook line of IBM's computers, has emerged as a market leader. As such, many people now work with and/or own IBM Thinkpads. Previous discussion relating to IBM Thinkpads has been discussed on various mailing lists for each of the separate model categories. In addition, much discussion has been carried out by people on comp.sys.laptops. The purpose of this group is to focus the discussion for any Thinkpad-related issues, regardless of the model type. Often, questions asked on comp.sys.laptops have been answered in mailing lists. In addition, the mailing list volumes have become quite large. The addition of a newsgroup would also help relieve some of the same questions asked on the different mailing lists. CHARTER: comp.sys.laptop.ibm-thinkpad comp.sys.laptop.ibm-thinkpad is an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of all subjects related to the IBM Thinkpad. Possible Topics include: IBM Thinkpad Models IBM Thinkpad Peripherals Third Party Peripherals Operating Systems on the IBM Thinkpad (e.g. Win 95, DOS, Linux, etc.) Where to (and NOT to) Buy Technical Specifications Troubleshooting software/hardware with IBM Thinkpads Topics unrelated to IBM Thinkpads should not be posted to this group. Commercial announcement and forsale notices should not be posted to this group; however a short note might be posted if there is a new product that is of _general_ interest to Thinkpad owners. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This RFD initiates a discussion period of at least 21 days. If a consensus on the charter and the name of the group is reached, a Call for Votes (CFV) for the group will be issued. Exact voting conditions will be outlined in the CFV, the vote will be conducted by a neutral third party. The voting period will last from 21 to 31 days, and the group will pass if the YES votes outnumber the NO votes by at least 100 votes and if at least 2/3rds of the votes are in favor of the new group. Detailed information about the procedure may be found in the article "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" in news.announce.newusers. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD is cross-posted to the following Usenet newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.sys.laptops, comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems, comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc -- Derek V. Chan chan4@fas.harvard.edu dchan@cybercom.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 01:14:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21402; Wed, 1 Nov 95 01:14:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08426; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:12:01 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:10:12 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08200; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:10:10 -0500 Received: from Thinkpad (ts32-3.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.192]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA30782 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:10:07 -0800 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:10:07 -0800 Message-Id: <199511010610.WAA30782@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: dpark@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Dennis Park Subject: 760CD educational price Does anyone know the educational price of a Thinkpad 760cd? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 01:14:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21407; Wed, 1 Nov 95 01:14:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08428; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:12:01 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:09:33 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08128; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:09:30 -0500 Received: from Thinkpad (ts32-3.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.192]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA70062 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:09:21 -0800 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:09:21 -0800 Message-Id: <199511010609.WAA70062@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: dpark@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Dennis Park Subject: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? Does the 701c/cs have a DSP chip? I noticed that it does have the sound and modem capabilities of the 755ce/cd/cx series, but cannot use the same Mwave drivers. If it doesn't have a DSP chip, what hardware does it have to allow for sound and modem functions? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 04:17:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03483; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:17:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20180; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 04:15:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 04:13:39 -0500 Received: from chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19892; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 04:13:36 -0500 Received: (from steverod@localhost) by chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA25899; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:13:22 -0800 From: Steve Rodrigues Message-Id: <199511010913.BAA25899@chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? To: dpark@ucla.edu (Dennis Park) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:13:13 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199511010609.WAA70062@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> from "Dennis Park" at Oct 31, 95 10:09:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Does the 701c/cs have a DSP chip? I noticed that it does have the sound and > modem capabilities of the 755ce/cd/cx series, but cannot use the same Mwave > drivers. If it doesn't have a DSP chip, what hardware does it have to allow > for sound and modem functions? Yes, and no. Apparently, it does use a DSP (which one, they don't say) for modem and telephony functions - it can also act as an answering machine, a speakerphone, etc. (although buying it as such may be kind of silly :) I've heard, by net.rumor, that the modem cannot be upgraded to 28.8. The sound functionality appears to be the ESS688 and/or 488 chip(s) - I guess the Ensoniq Soundscape??? It is NOT provided by the Mwave. IBM's documentation is, as usual, very good at not telling you any technical specifics - it sounds like FM synthesis. No word in the docs on the proper way to enable the SB Pro support for DOS apps. Setting the BLASTER environment variable seems to be hit-or-miss. It would have been cool to have Mwave sound and upgradable modem capability - but I guess that's the next generation (and why IBM is dumping 701's like mad). Steve -- Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 10:28:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28792; Wed, 1 Nov 95 10:28:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23328; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:25:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:22:05 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22870; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:22:02 -0500 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA07692; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:23:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:23:00 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: TP750 Subject: FW: For Sale: IBM ThinkPad Port Replicators (NEW/UNUSED) (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This was forwarded to me by one of my co-workers and I thought all of you would appreciate knowing about it. I'm buying two of the things - one for home and one for the office - and have already exchanged messages with him. His terms are UPS COD cash only. Last I looked, UPS COD was $7. Still a damn sight cheaper than the $109 IBM wants. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ---------------Original Message--------------- rkondilas@mcimail.com (Robert A. Kondilas) writes: >I have recently acquired a few IBM ThinkPad port replicators for the >following model series: > >TP355 >TP360 >TP750 >TP755 >TP760 > >They are great when you want to avoid the hassle of >detaching/reattaching your external peripherals such as a mouse, >keyboard, video, and printer EVERY time you get up to leave or sit >down to work. > >These are an excellent and economic alternative to those who do not >want to purchase a docking station. > >IBM sells them for $109...I am trying to sell mine for $35. > >Please email me at: rkondilas@mcimail.com > >Robert > ----------End of Original Message---------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 10:28:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28797; Wed, 1 Nov 95 10:28:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23475; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:26:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:25:18 -0500 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23251; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:25:14 -0500 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 01 Nov 95 10:23:47 EST Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 1 Nov 95 11:28:23 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 1 Nov 95 11:28:12 EST From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:28:05 EST Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: > From: Steve Rodrigues > > It would have been cool to have Mwave sound and upgradable modem capability - > but I guess that's the next generation (and why IBM is dumping 701's like mad). > I'm looking at changing dept standard to the 701 but I wish there were a P75 or better processor. Does anyone know, or heard rumors, of future 701 configurations and a timeframe on release? Guy Guy W. Farrell Vox: (860)486-0964 my desk Network Coordinator, Postmaster (860)486-5000 front desk The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 toll-free U-Box 206 Fax: (860)486-1615 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 10:47:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00058; Wed, 1 Nov 95 10:47:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25213; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:45:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:44:00 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25076; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:43:55 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA09791 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:43:50 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:43:50 -0600 Message-Id: <199511011543.JAA09791@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? At 01:13 AM 11/1/95 -0800, you wrote: >> Does the 701c/cs have a DSP chip? I noticed that it does have the sound and >> modem capabilities of the 755ce/cd/cx series, but cannot use the same Mwave >> drivers. If it doesn't have a DSP chip, what hardware does it have to allow >> for sound and modem functions? > >Yes, and no. >Apparently, it does use a DSP (which one, they don't say) for modem and >telephony functions - it can also act as an answering machine, a speakerphone, >etc. (although buying it as such may be kind of silly :) I've heard, by >net.rumor, that the modem cannot be upgraded to 28.8. > I have also heard that the modem is not upgradeable to 28.8. I have also heard that the DSP is manufactured by Yamaha. It is completely different from IBM's MWave. > >It would have been cool to have Mwave sound and upgradable modem capability - >but I guess that's the next generation (and why IBM is dumping 701's like mad). > again, net.rumor says that they did not have enough room in the 701 to stick in the MWave, which is quite a bit larger than the Yamaha chip. perhaps as the 701-series starts to use newer/smaller chipsets and/or lithium polymer technology, there will be enough room for an MWave.... i use a 755CE, and i definitely love the MWave! if only there were 32bit drivers for the MWave for, say, Windows NT..... (the 16bit drivers do work fine in Win95, however) ,Todd --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 10:56:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00270; Wed, 1 Nov 95 10:56:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26235; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:54:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:54:00 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26122; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:53:54 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA09907 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:53:50 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:53:50 -0600 Message-Id: <199511011553.JAA09907@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: anyone use "MWGAMES ON SAMPLES" command? with the MWave 2.0 software, the "MWGAMES" msdos command has been enhanced. the options are now: "MWGAMES ON" loads emulation code "MWGAMES ON PRO" loads SB-Pro I emulation code "MWGAMES ON PROQ" loads SB-Pro I emulation code w/QSound "MWGAMES ON PRO+" loads SB-Pro I emulation code w/Effects "MWGAMES ON MIN" loads emulation code w/o record "MWGAMES ON CD" loads emulation code w/line-in to CD-DAC "MWGAMES ON SAMPLES" loads SB-Pro I emulation code with sampled sound MIDI "MWGAMES OFF" unloads emulation code two problems: 1) has anyone successfully used the "MWGAMES ON SAMPLES" command??? it does not work for me. i would be _great_ to play DOOM, etc, with sampled MIDI sounds for the music! does this work for anyone else? 2) while I'm at it, "MWGAMES ON PRO" does work for me. however, doesn't the SB Pro support stereo? i though stereo was one of the big upgrades >from the SB to the SB Pro. when i use "MWGAMES ON PRO" i can select SB Pro in Decent, for example, but the sounds are still definitely mono. anyone else play around with this? THANKS! --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 11:34:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04338; Wed, 1 Nov 95 11:34:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29666; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:33:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:26:44 -0500 Received: from doblegate.doble.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29069; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:26:30 -0500 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 097acf50; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:23:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:22:11 -0500 Message-Id: <097acf50@doblegate.doble.com> To: "Derek V. Chan" , Paulo Magalhaes Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: NO newsgroup Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.815246581" This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the rest, you will have to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.815246581 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Received: from [128.169.94.1] by doblegate.doble.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 0966a990; Tue, 31 Oct 95 13:27:38 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09619; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:26:54 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:26:44 -0500 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09578; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:26:40 -0500 Received: by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu id AA23274 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:26:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:26:19 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes X-Sender: pm119@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu To: "Derek V. Chan" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: NO newsgroup In-Reply-To: <199510311623.LAA00304@kalypso.cybercom.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII --IMA.Boundary.815246581 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Could it be that they have better newsgroup readers than mail readers?? There is a reason why nn and the other programs have those features. It is needed due to the noise. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: NO newsgroup Author: Paulo Magalhaes at Doble-Internet Date: 10/31/95 12:26 PM On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Derek V. Chan wrote: What's the obsession with newsgroups anyway?!?! -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu --IMA.Boundary.815246581-- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 11:41:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05404; Wed, 1 Nov 95 11:41:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00637; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:40:58 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:39:08 -0500 Received: from njitgw.njit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00339; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:38:59 -0500 Received: from njit.edu (homer-gw.njit.edu [128.235.1.199]) by njitgw.njit.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA20446 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:38:48 -0500 Received: from random.njit.edu by njit.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00437; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:35:40 -0500 Received: by random.njit.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA20559; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:41:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:41:24 -0500 From: marvin@homer.njit.edu (Marvin Nakayama) Message-Id: <9511011641.AA20559@random.njit.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760CD educational price X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 01:11 EST 1995 > Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:10:07 -0800 > X-Sender: dpark@pop.ben2.ucla.edu > Mime-Version: 1.0 > To: tp750@cs.utk.edu > From: Dennis Park > Subject: 760CD educational price > > Does anyone know the educational price of a Thinkpad 760cd? > I called IBM PC Direct a few weeks ago about this model and was told the educational price was $7129 for 8MB/1.2GB. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 13:45:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14052; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:45:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11728; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:41:37 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:37:53 -0500 Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11228; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:37:44 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id NAA27232; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:37:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199511011837.NAA27232@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: ecottrell@doble.com Cc: "Derek V. Chan" , Paulo Magalhaes , tp750@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: NO newsgroup In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 Nov 1995 11:22:11 EST." <097acf50@doblegate.doble.com> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 13:37:29 -0500 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu This is the reason that's usually cited. I think it's a shame that better mail readers aren't widely available. Keith From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 14:11:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16304; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:11:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13847; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:09:50 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:08:57 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13749; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:08:54 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA20872; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA07745; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:08:49 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511011908.LAA07745@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 760CD educational price To: dpark@ucla.edu (Dennis Park) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:08:48 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <199511010610.WAA30782@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> from "Dennis Park" at Oct 31, 95 10:10:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Does anyone know the educational price of a Thinkpad 760cd? Don't know the particulars, but typically IBM educational prices aren't anything to get too happy about--about 10% off of list. The same deal (or better) can be had through most any discounter. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 15:03:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19589; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:03:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18397; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:55:18 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:53:09 -0500 Received: from mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18146; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:53:05 -0500 From: Received: from in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA15769; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:54:34 -0600 Received: from ccMail by in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA815262019; Wed, 01 Nov 95 13:50:36 CST Date: Wed, 01 Nov 95 13:50:36 CST Message-Id: <9510018152.AA815262019@in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: My TP 701 is on the way ! I finally made the call, I ordered a TP-701C DX2-50 540 Meg HD, and the 16 Meg mem card. I is on its way from PC-Mall. While I am here writing, I like the idea of a news group in addition to the mail list, thought I would preffer a digest of this mail list over any thing else. Lastly, I am considering getting a Zip Drive, and I would like any comments about pcmcia Scsi interfaces, and or pcmcia CDROMs that are scsi. I will eventually want a CDROM for my TP, and it would be nice to have the scsi interface work for both. I am also interested in anyone who might be using a Zip Drive now. Kevan P.Riley Vanderbilt Univ. Medical Center BioMedical Computing Support kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 15:13:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20145; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:13:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20183; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:11:37 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:10:14 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19936; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:10:07 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA10351; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:09:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:09:36 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: My TP 701 is on the way ! In-Reply-To: <9510018152.AA815262019@in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Nov 1995 kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu wrote: > I finally made the call, I ordered a TP-701C DX2-50 540 > Meg HD, and the 16 Meg mem card. I is on its way from > PC-Mall. Anybody interested in buying a TP701 should know that IBM is having a special friend-of-an-employee discount program. Basically, each employee is allowed to sell a TP701 to five friends at a heavily discounted price. The top of the line 701C DX4/75 with 720MB drive was $2799. Prices on other models were similarly discounted. If you visit comp.sys.laptops, there are (or were) many IBM employees taking advantage of this offer (they get a 701CS for almost free if they sell 5 this way), so you don't have to personally know an IBM employee to take advantage of this offer. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 16:16:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24453; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:16:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26804; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:14:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:11:31 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26539; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:11:00 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA19278; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:10:06 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA04927; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:08:13 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 13:08:11 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Where can I get a 1.2gig internal HD for 755CX? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Where can I order a 1.2gig internal HD for the 755CX? I was going to order one from NECX Direct for $1200, but they don't seem to have them anymore. They ran out of them a couple of weeks ago, and said they would get some more in stock yesterday, but when I checked back yesterday (and today too), they had *removed* the item from the list of accessories. Is there any other place I can get that drive for about the same price? --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 17:25:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29388; Wed, 1 Nov 95 17:25:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03893; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:23:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:20:08 -0500 Received: from GSBVXB.UCHICAGO.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03602; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:19:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199511012219.RAA03602@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from gsbdwd by GSBVXB.UCHICAGO.EDU with SMTP; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:19:37 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: fac_doug@gsbvax.uchicago.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 16:19:06 -0600 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: "Douglas W. Diamond" Subject: Datastor Mounting bracket for TP Has any one used the Datastor mounting bracket for mounting 2.5" ide drives in Thinkpads? It is listed at Internet Shopping Network for under $60. Any good or bad experiences? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 18:46:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08082; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:46:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10864; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:45:31 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:42:34 -0500 Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10654; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:42:32 -0500 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA02672 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:42:18 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id SAA11718; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:40:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:40:19 -0500 (EST) From: aoster Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: selling some drives In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey, I have a couple of drives I want to sell: $150, 2.5" 170-megs $100, 2.5" 120-megs I also have _one_ Thinkpad enclosure for $75... you can use it with 755CE and whatever else the drive case is compatible with...(yea, I know that sounds like a lot of money...but IBM....bleah...) The 170-megger has Linux installed...so if you buy the enclosure and drive from me, you can just pop out your drive...pop in this one and have Linux running....woowoo Thanks http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 18:46:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08087; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:46:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10862; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:45:31 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:42:14 -0500 Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10627; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:42:02 -0500 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA02642 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:41:57 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id SAA11858; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:41:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:41:12 -0500 (EST) From: aoster Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Datastor Mounting bracket for TP In-Reply-To: <199511012219.RAA03602@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, Douglas W. Diamond wrote: > Has any one used the Datastor mounting bracket for mounting 2.5" ide drives in > Thinkpads? It is listed at Internet Shopping Network for under $60. > > Any good or bad experiences? Oh really? What's the URL? http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 04:45:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18246; Thu, 2 Nov 95 04:45:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22010; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 04:44:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 04:40:32 -0500 Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21651; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 04:40:19 -0500 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@saturnus-1 [130.235.41.11]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA09780 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:40:08 +0100 Message-Id: <199511020940.KAA09780@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Speeding up mouse in OS/" 2...   | ? Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 10:40:05 +0100 From: Erik Lindahl Hi, I know that this really isn't core thinkpad matter, but anyway   j how. ... There    here has ebb   e bene  en a lot of talk about the slowness of the pointer in o OS/2 when using the trackpoint device| . Anybody who has found a solution? The best thing would of course be a way to change the spped   eed without rep booting, since the driver os completely normal with the external mouse... Regards, Erik From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 09:25:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00212; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:25:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17313; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:24:57 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:20:50 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16885; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:20:40 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA7989; Thu, 02 Nov 95 10:19:09 -0800 Message-Id: <9511021819.AA7989@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 40260C4F56B57F4A85256268004E0540; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:19:09 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 2 Nov 95 9:15:03 EDT Subject: audio adapters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain has anyone ever put a 32-bit audio adapter in a 75X? we need 32-bit sound in order to run the internet phone in full-duplex mode, but i haven't seen anything 32-bit in pcmcia. thanks in advance, Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 09:30:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00268; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:30:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17831; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:29:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:29:01 -0500 Received: from midway.uchicago.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17763; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:28:55 -0500 Received: from gsbdwd (gsbdwd.uchicago.edu [128.135.130.161]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id IAA19846 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 08:28:53 -0600 Message-Id: <199511021428.IAA19846@midway.uchicago.edu> X-Sender: fac_doug@gsbvax.uchicago.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 08:28:10 -0600 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Douglas W. Diamond" Subject: Re: Datastor Mounting bracket for TP At 06:41 PM 11/1/95 -0500, alster@interport.net wrote: >On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, Douglas W. Diamond wrote: > >> Has any one used the Datastor mounting bracket for mounting 2.5" ide drives in >> Thinkpads? It is listed at Internet Shopping Network for under $60. >> >> Any good or bad experiences? > >Oh really? What's the URL? > it is http://www.internet.net The listing is: DATASTOR - BRACKET KIT, 2.5 IDE HD, IBM Our Part Number: 116486 Product Description: THINKPAD 355/750/750C/750CS Product Category: MASS STORAGE DEVICES - DRIVE CABINETS & MOUNTING KITS CPU: MSD Manufacturer: DATASTOR Manufacturer Part Number: ITR210X Media: Compnt Weight: 0.26 lbs. Retail Price: $ 99.99 OUR PRICE IS: $ 53.16 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 09:35:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00356; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:35:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18346; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:34:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:33:52 -0500 Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18141; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:33:50 -0500 Received: (from dchan@localhost) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA06237; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:33:27 -0500 From: "Derek V. Chan" Message-Id: <199511021433.JAA06237@kalypso.cybercom.net> Subject: Re: audio adapters To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:33:25 -0500 (EST) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9511021819.AA7989@lgate.vmedia.com> from "Michael Verne/VENTANA" at Nov 2, 95 09:15:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > > has anyone ever put a 32-bit audio adapter in a 75X? we need 32-bit sound in > order to run the internet phone in full-duplex mode, but i haven't seen > anything 32-bit in pcmcia. > Huh? Just change the line in the [system.ini] to read FullDuplex instead... From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 09:53:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03811; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:53:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20028; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:53:05 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:52:18 -0500 Received: from CQO6.whirlpool.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19549; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:49:39 -0500 From: Received: by CQO6.whirlpool.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA34205; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:49:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:49:38 -0500 Message-Id: <9511021449.AA34205@CQO6.whirlpool.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux on a 755CX Has anyone gotten Linux to run on the 755CX yet? I've tried all the tips from the Linux/Thinkpad Web site at peipa.essex.ac.uk (specifying the hard drive geometry, floppy=thinkpad, etc.) There was also nothing in the archives of this mailing list. The boot disk comes up just fine. I'm prompted to insert the root disk - once I do I get the following error: Kernel panic: VFS 1.2.13 Unable to mount root fs on 02:00 ...and then we're locked up. My machine is a TP 755CX - SVGA model with 24 MB RAM, 810 MB hard drive. If anybody can give me a hand here, I'd really appreciate it. :-) -- Doug Washington EMAIL: washide@cqo6.whirlpool.com Whirlpool Corporation EMAIL: washide@cluster.mcs.com St. Joseph, Michigan USA VOICE: (616) 923-5803 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 10:36:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06293; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:36:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24192; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:33:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:32:16 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23979; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:32:13 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa10513; 2 Nov 95 10:18 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (5.x/SMI-SVR4 (plus cnri and barry's mods)) id AA07762; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:17:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:17:59 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Manheimer Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US To: washide@cqo6.whirlpool.com Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux on a 755CX In-Reply-To: <9511021449.AA34205@CQO6.whirlpool.com> Message-Id: X-Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Nov 1995 washide@cqo6.whirlpool.com wrote: > Has anyone gotten Linux to run on the 755CX yet? I've tried all the > [...] > The boot disk comes up just fine. I'm prompted to insert the root > disk - once I do I get the following error: > > Kernel panic: VFS 1.2.13 Unable to mount root fs on 02:00 > > ...and then we're locked up. I recently surmounted a similar, and *possibly* related problem on my 701cs. It turns out that i was using an uncompressed rootdisk image, which was causing the problem. This despite the fact that the boot mechanism detects that it's uncompressed and proceeds to "load direct", or some such message. Switching to a gzipped image disk (using gzip and dd to write it directly to a floppy, from my unix workstation) was the solution. ken manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us (703) 620-8990 x259 Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, VA 22091 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 10:57:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07111; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:57:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26865; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:56:06 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:54:17 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26500; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:54:15 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA13371; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:50:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:50:25 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: washide@CQO6.whirlpool.com Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux on a 755CX In-Reply-To: <9511021449.AA34205@CQO6.whirlpool.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Nov 1995 washide@CQO6.whirlpool.com wrote: > Has anyone gotten Linux to run on the 755CX yet? I've tried all the > > The boot disk comes up just fine. I'm prompted to insert the root > disk - once I do I get the following error: > > Kernel panic: VFS 1.2.13 Unable to mount root fs on 02:00 > > ...and then we're locked up. A problem I had with Slackware and the 1.2.8 kernel on my TP750 was that the prompts were never really clear on when to change the disk. It prompted me twice. If I put in the root disk the first time, it would read the disk then give an "unable to mount root fs" message and lock up. If I left the boot disk in it would read the disk, then prompt me again (different prompt). Put in the root disk at that point, and the system would come up (off ramdisk). Or so I recall. :) ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 10:58:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07122; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:58:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27064; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:56:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:55:55 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26808; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:55:48 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA13396; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:55:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:55:13 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Erik Lindahl Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Speeding up mouse in OS/" 2...   | ? In-Reply-To: <199511020940.KAA09780@kobra.efd.lth.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Erik Lindahl wrote: > There    here has ebb   e bene  en > a lot of talk about the slowness of the pointer in o OS/2 > when using the trackpoint device| . Anybody who has found a solution? Heh heh. Might I suggest you change your editor? :) > The best thing would of course be a way to change the speed without > repbooting, since the driver os completely normal with the external mouse... Most people suggest using the shareware Rodent drivers (on all the big OS/2 ftp sites). I never used them so I'm not sure how they work or if you can change speeds without rebooting. But I've been told by several people that it does let you speed up the mouse. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 11:49:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09291; Thu, 2 Nov 95 11:49:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02780; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:47:02 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:41:52 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02286; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:41:48 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA13547; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:41:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:41:12 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Speeding up mouse in OS/" 2...   | ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Erik Lindahl wrote: > > > There^H ^H^H ^H^H ^H^H ^Hhere has ebb^H ^H^H ^H^H ^He^H ^Hbene^H ^H^H ^Hen > > a lot of talk about the slowness of the pointer in o^H ^HOS/2 > > when using the trackpoint device|^H ^H. Anybody who has found a solution? > > Heh heh. Might I suggest you change your editor? :) In case you're wondering about that remark, no, I'm not crazy. I've shown how Erik's text appeared in my editor. :) -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 13:54:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22579; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:54:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14016; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:51:05 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:47:50 -0500 Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13049; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:47:22 -0500 Received: from dec3300.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA06428; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:17:48 -0700 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by dec3300.cuug.ab.ca (5.65//ident-1.0) id AA18854; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:17:51 -0700 Message-Id: <9511021817.AA18854@dec3300.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: Linux on a 755CX To: washide@CQO6.whirlpool.com Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:17:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9511021449.AA34205@CQO6.whirlpool.com> from "washide@CQO6.whirlpool.com" at Nov 2, 95 09:49:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Has anyone gotten Linux to run on the 755CX yet? I've tried all the > tips from the Linux/Thinkpad Web site at peipa.essex.ac.uk (specifying > the hard drive geometry, floppy=thinkpad, etc.) There was also nothing > in the archives of this mailing list. I thought there were messages from people who did get it working. > The boot disk comes up just fine. I'm prompted to insert the root > disk - once I do I get the following error: > > Kernel panic: VFS 1.2.13 Unable to mount root fs on 02:00 > > ...and then we're locked up. This is like the problem with older thinkpads where you had to use the "floppy=thinkpad" option. Not all thinkpads need this option (my 755CD doesn't) and if you supply it when not needed, same problem as not giving it when it is needed. In general I have found the newer Thinkpad models and the newer Linux kernels (1.2.x) to be much more compatable then in the past. With my 755CD (810Mb HD) I don't need to specify any options. Harddrive size is found fine by Linux and floppy works as normal! > My machine is a TP 755CX - SVGA model with 24 MB RAM, 810 MB hard > drive. This is pretty much the same as my 755CD (24Mb RAM, 810Mb HD, ...) so it should work fine! > If anybody can give me a hand here, I'd really appreciate it. :-) Hope this helps! > -- > Doug Washington EMAIL: washide@cqo6.whirlpool.com > Whirlpool Corporation EMAIL: washide@cluster.mcs.com > St. Joseph, Michigan USA VOICE: (616) 923-5803 +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 13:55:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22905; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:55:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14018; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:51:06 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:50:01 -0500 Received: from mail.crl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13678; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:49:56 -0500 Received: from crl12.crl.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA14722 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:25:17 -0800 Received: by crl12.crl.com id AA13841 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:17:48 -0800 From: Mark Ng Message-Id: <199511021717.AA13841@crl12.crl.com> Subject: Re: Linux on a 755CX To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:17:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <199511021703.AA13690@crl12.crl.com> from "Mark Ng" at Nov 2, 95 09:03:13 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I just tried booting Linux on an 8/540 SVGA 755CX >and it worked OK, i.e. got as far as mounting the >root disk and getting the slackware login prompt. > >I used the following: 1. bare boot disk and >uncompressed color.gz, written to floppy using ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sorry, I meant _compressed_ color.gz, left as-is and not uncompressed. -- Mark Ng mng@crl.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 13:56:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22916; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:56:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14179; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:52:30 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:51:47 -0500 Received: from lotus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14103; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:51:45 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA22076; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:29:54 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27393; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:11:22 -0500 Message-Id: <9511021811.AA27393@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.02 Beta) id DC74E2A9897A17CF852562680063C0C4; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:11:12 EST To: Todd Tannenbaum Cc: TP750 From: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Date: 2 Nov 95 13:13:04 EST Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > again, net.rumor says that they did not have enough room in the 701 to stick > in the MWave, which is quite a bit larger than the Yamaha chip. perhaps as Not quite net rumor...this was from one of the design engineers I bumped into on comp.sys.laptops. The display for the 701 can also have 256K colors as opposed to the 64K colors in the rest of the thinkpad line. On a slighly different note, do the 760's have a 32-bit memory architecture? I noted that they take the SO-DIMMs which are only 32-bit wide, but you don't have to add in two at a time as you do with a Pentium desktop because the Pentium bus is 64-bit. My suspicion is that the cache to Pentium portion is 64-bit but the main memory to cache part is only 32-bit. In case anyone else is wondering, the 760 uses a Trident graphics chip. ken From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 14:27:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25771; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:27:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18144; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:25:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:23:59 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17939; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:23:56 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id LAA12510 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:23:53 -0800 Received: from cds8962.cadence.com(158.140.56.57) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma012488; Thu Nov 2 11:23:46 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds8962.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id LAA03723 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:25:54 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:25:54 -0800 Message-Id: <199511021925.LAA03723@cds8962.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Ted Frederick Subject: NT/Solaris X86 on TP75X? Anyone had any luck with Solaris 2.X on the ThinkPad 75X line? I'd like to configure one removable disk that will allow the user to do a dual-boot to either NT or Solaris. A formidable task I'm sure... Any ideas? Thanks, -Ted ************************ Ted Frederick Mgr. DM Practice Cadence Design Systems tedf@cadence.com ************************ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 14:34:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26353; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:34:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18534; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:28:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:27:44 -0500 Received: from nadia.ircam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18420; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:27:32 -0500 Received: from keith.ircam.fr by nadia.ircam.fr, Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:42:12 +0100 Received: by keith.ircam.fr, Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:42:11 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:42:11 +0100 From: Jonathan Marshall Message-Id: <199511021742.AA07511@keith.ircam.fr> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.100) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.100) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: MIDI problems Cc: marshall@keith.ircam.fr Reply-To: Jonathan.Marshall@ircam.fr Hi all, My first message seems to have been lost somewhere so I will rewrite my letter, appologies if you receive this twice. Since installing/uninstalling certian MIDI applications on my TP755C (ie no MWave) I have lost my MIDI playpack in windows 3.1. I can sill play wave files in windows and both wave and midi files in dos - just not midi files in windows. When I play a MIDI file in Windows everything slows down completely even the mouse pointer crawls across the screen and the sound produced is very distorted and jumpy (it actually sounds as if it is trying to play each note twice and they are over lapping) I've tried restoring my system.ini files to their original state and reinstalling the IBM audio drivers with no luck. When I remove the drivers completely nothing slows down at all but I (obviously) lose MIDI playback. Has anyone had this same problem, any sugesstions would be appreciated as this is one of the main uses I have for my thinkpad. Thank you all very much in advance Jon marshall@ircam.fr From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 15:17:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29613; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:17:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23170; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:08:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:05:37 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22718; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:05:23 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA9273; Thu, 02 Nov 95 16:03:52 -0800 Message-Id: <9511030003.AA9273@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 0ACE0BE55D32515185256268005CB0F4; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:03:48 To: "Derek V. Chan" Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 2 Nov 95 15:01:35 EDT Subject: Re: audio adapters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....Huh? Just change the line in the [system.ini] to read FullDuplex instead...." ~~~~~ not sure what line you're referring to, but the internet phone detects your sound card and, if it's 16-bit, goes into half-duplex mode. if you have a 32-bit card, it goes into full-duplex mode. if you've figured out a way to trick it, i'd love to hear the details. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 15:51:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00360; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:51:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14700; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:55:31 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:54:22 -0500 Received: from mailsrv1.pcy.mci.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14471; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:54:13 -0500 Received: from [204.71.165.19] (dialup273.Washington.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V4.3-13 #10044) id <01HX60ONTEKW91XFUP@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET>; Thu, 02 Nov 1995 11:57:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 11:58:01 -0500 From: Joe Burns Subject: Linux on the 755CD To: tp750 Message-Id: <01HX60OOL5VM91XFUP@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> X-Mailer: e-mailMCI v2.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT -- [ From: Joe Burns * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] -- Hello! Are there any 755CD users on the list running Linux? I've got a 755CD with the internal IDE-CD, port replicator, and external 1.44 floppy drive running Linux (1.2.13 kernel with PCMCIA drivers). I can boot with no problem, but when card services load, I can't use the mouse. gpm is not loaded, but I get a "device busy". When I start X, I get a "device busy". I take out card services, and everything runs no problem. Has anyone else tried this? Thanks, Joe Burns jburns@internetMCI.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 15:52:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00404; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:52:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14398; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:53:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:52:35 -0500 Received: from mail.crl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14182; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:52:30 -0500 Received: from crl12.crl.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA11414 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:10:31 -0800 Received: by crl12.crl.com id AA13690 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:03:14 -0800 From: Mark Ng Message-Id: <199511021703.AA13690@crl12.crl.com> Subject: Re: Linux on a 755CX To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:03:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9511021449.AA34205@CQO6.whirlpool.com> from "washide@CQO6.whirlpool.com" at Nov 2, 95 09:49:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Has anyone gotten Linux to run on the 755CX yet? I've tried all the >tips from the Linux/Thinkpad Web site at peipa.essex.ac.uk (specifying >the hard drive geometry, floppy=thinkpad, etc.) There was also nothing >in the archives of this mailing list. > >The boot disk comes up just fine. I'm prompted to insert the root >disk - once I do I get the following error: > [...] I just tried booting Linux on an 8/540 SVGA 755CX and it worked OK, i.e. got as far as mounting the root disk and getting the slackware login prompt. I used the following: 1. bare boot disk and uncompressed color.gz, written to floppy using rawrite, from wcarchive's Slackware 3.0 distribution; 2. no boot parameters entered, just hit return at the Boot: prompt. If it matters, there was a small DOS partition on the hard disk and the device probe on boot reported a mapped geometry (523/32/63). A recent FreeBSD 2.1.0 SNAP installed and ran OK on this notebook with no special preparations or actions required. -- Mark Ng mng@crl.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 16:34:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07096; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:34:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01625; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:29:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:26:18 -0500 Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01358; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:26:00 -0500 Received: from dec3300.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA09196; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:25:29 -0700 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by dec3300.cuug.ab.ca (5.65//ident-1.0) id AA27350; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:25:28 -0700 Message-Id: <9511022125.AA27350@dec3300.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: Linux on the 755CD To: jburns@internetmci.com (Joe Burns) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:25:27 -0700 (MST) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <01HX60OOL5VM91XFUP@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> from "Joe Burns" at Nov 2, 95 11:58:01 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -- [ From: Joe Burns * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] -- > > Hello! > Are there any 755CD users on the list running Linux? You bet! I have a 755CD, 24Mb RAM, 810Mb HD. I use PCMCIA ethernet and modem cards with my machine too. I'm running Caldera but used to run Slackware. Here is some info on Linux on a 755CD: 1. The i82365 PCMCIA controller likes to choose interrupt 12. This is the same as used by the PS/2 type mouse in our Thinkpads. The mouse driver doesn't reserve the interrupt until it is used so the PCMCIA stuff gets it first and no mouse! The fix is to add an option to the PCMCIA startup stuff (usually in /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia) that gives "irq_mask=0xceb8". This disallows irq 12 for the PCMCIA so it is free for the mouse. You may need to add an "exclude irq 12" line to your PCMCIA config file as well just to be sure the irq isn't given away to a PCMCIA device. 2. If you try really using iso9660 cds you will find that the ide-cd driver in 1.2.x Linux has a bug that screws up reading the data. If you go into a directory with many files and do an ls you may only see some of the files. Do another ls and there will be more. The fix is to grab the Linux 1.3.1 sources and copy over the one program >from drivers/block/ide-cd.c. This is just one revision higher than the one in the 1.2.x kernels and it fixes the problem. 3. If you boot into DOS first, do the "MWGAMES ON CD", and then load linux using loadlin - the Soundblaster sound works in Linux as well as listening to audio CDs. The soundblaster must be compiled into your kernel and I boot with the lilo options "ro hdc=cdrom sound= 0x222051,0x138800". I had to add some "exclude irq 5" types lines to my PCMCIA config file to keep them free for the sound stuff but now it works great! Thats all I can think of. Any other problems just give me a msg and I've probably hit it before and can help you! > Thanks, > Joe Burns > jburns@internetMCI.com +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 16:58:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09089; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:58:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04353; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:55:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:53:56 -0500 Received: from skypoint.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04132; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:53:54 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME by skypoint.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0tB7ZA-0005JGC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:52 CST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:52 CST X-Sender: otoolec9@mirage.skypoint.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: otooleco@pobox.com (Sean T. O'Toole) Subject: 28.8 Modems I'm looking to upgrade to a 28.8 pcmcia now that prices seem to be moderating. My question is this: Are there any units in particular that I should avoid? How about any that are head and shoulders above the rest? Thanks, Sean O'Toole LFG, LLC otooleco@pobox.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 18:03:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16362; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:03:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10552; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:00:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:58:41 -0500 Received: from ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10262; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:58:39 -0500 Received: by ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA49089; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:58:37 GMT Message-Id: <199511022258.AA49089@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 23:58:17 EST From: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) Reply-To: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Alberto Enna's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Microphone/Headphone Kit Can somebody help me in finding a good microphon/headphone kit for my TP755CD ? Next days I'll get the MWave DAA 28k8, and would be able to have my telephone calls more "confidentially"... Many thanks on advance. Bye by Alby/Warp 755CD From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 18:05:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16895; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:05:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10938; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:04:04 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:03:31 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10870; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:03:29 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA9887; Thu, 02 Nov 95 19:01:58 -0800 Message-Id: <9511030301.AA9887@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id A46A96897FA24F3C85256268007CD199; Thu, 2 Nov 95 19:01:48 To: "Sean T. O'Toole" Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 2 Nov 95 17:56:11 EDT Subject: Re: 28.8 Modems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....Are there any units in particular that I should avoid? How about any that are head and shoulders above the rest?....." ~~~~ we've had nothing but success with the usr sportster 28.8 in our 360's (c, cse) and 755's (c, cd, cse). they don't require a client driver, so you can get away with only loading ss & cs in the config.sys & save some dos memory. this may be true of other modems, too, though. we've had no failures and haven't found a dialer yet with which the usr won't work-- either with the usr 28.8 pcmcia string, the closest usr string, or the generic hayes string. i think we pay around $300-$350 each. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 20:40:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03483; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:40:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22839; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:39:32 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:36:57 -0500 Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22554; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:36:42 -0500 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA17426 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:31:50 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199511030131.JAA17426@luyou> Subject: NT on TP360/12Mb To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:31:50 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text Hi, Any experiences from anyone concerning NT on a TP360/12Mb on performance. I currently have Warp, Linux and Dos on the disk. Any reasons against swapping Warp for NT on my machine? I plan to install a "stripped down" NT. Cheers. __________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 21:36:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08032; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:36:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26890; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:35:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:33:26 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26784; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:33:22 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA29995 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:33:05 +1100 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA10404 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:33:03 +1100 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:33:03 +1100 Message-Id: <199511030233.NAA10404@leonard.anu.edu.au> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: multiple net connections any easy/inexpensive way to shift between different networks (eg, office, enet, one ip address; lecture theater, enet, another ip address; home, modem, PPP, still another ip address), without having to reconfigure each time, and without having to pay a lot for functunality to you don't need? on a tp755ce running wfwg 3.11 regards, al + Alden S. Klovdahl, Ph.D e-mail: alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au Department of Sociology fax: +61 62 49 05 25 The Faculties voice - The Australian National University messages: +61 62 49 45 21 Canberra A.C.T. my office: +61 62 49 44 79 Australia 0200 home: +61 62 82 35 81 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:03:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13222; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:03:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03371; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:02:37 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:01:12 -0500 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03223; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:01:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199511030401.XAA03223@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-3.ucl.ac.uk by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 04:00:51 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: A J Annala Subject: Re: multiple net connections Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 04:00:54 +0000 >Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 03:00:51 >To: Alden S Klovdahl >From: A J Annala >Subject: Re: multiple net connections > >At 01:33 PM 11/3/95 +1100, you wrote: >>any easy/inexpensive way to shift between different networks (eg, office, enet, >>one ip address; lecture theater, enet, another ip address; home, modem, PPP, >>still another ip address), without having to reconfigure each time, and >>without having to pay a lot for functunality to you don't need? > >Well, > >It depends on what you want to do at home and office. I frankly think all >this MS-Lan Manager, Novelle Net Manager, etc stuff is over complicated -- >and prone to too many configuration / reconfiguration change problems. > >I put simple Trumpet WinSock on my Thinkpad 750Cs. There is an overall >directory for my campus c:\UCL with subdirectories for various clients and >connection methods: > > C:\UCL\ETHERNET -- TRUMPET configured with IP addr for my Office > C:\UCL\SLIP -- TRUMPET configured with IP addr for my Home > -- this TRUMPET is the only one in my DOS PATH > C:\UCL\TN -- NCSA TN3270 & 3C589 Ethernet Card Drivers > > C:\UCL\EUDORA -- offline email package > C:\UCL\CUSEEME -- videoconferencing > C:\UCL\GOCUSM -- videoconferincing IP dialing package > C:\UCL\IPHONE -- internet audioconferinging > C:\UCL\IRCIIWIN -- internet chat > C:\UCL\NETSCAPE -- www browser > C:\UCL\NTERM26 -- VT100/ANSI terminal > C:\UCL\SPOOL -- print spooling (tmp) directory > C:\UCL\WINTALK -- internet talk > C:\UCL\WINVN -- network news > C:\UCL\WLPRS -- unix print spooler > >There are two ICONS in my windows EXECUTABLES folder -- one which is LABELED >ETHERNET (TCPMAN -ip=)and one which is LABELED >SLIP (TCPMAN -ip=0.0.0.0) for dynamic address assignment from home. > >When I am at office, I turn on PC, enter TNINIT (a bat file in \UCL\TN) >which loads DOS drivers for ethernet (3C589PD.EXE, WINPKT.EXE) -- you could >put this in BAT file if you don't care about low memory / UMB consumption -- >run Windows, click on ETHERNET, run whatever Winsock applications are needed. > >When I am at home, I just click on the appropriate Winsock application -- >and it searches through the DOS PATH, finds the TCPMAN configured for SLIP, >dials the phone, does whatever I need, and disconnects automatically. If >I want to stay connected at home without automatic connection/disconnection >I just click on SLIP TCPMAN. > >By the way, don't forget to load everything (drivers, shims, whatever) HIGH >-- and make B000-B7FF, and E000-E5FF available for UMBs. With card services, >ethernet drivers, etc all loaded I still have 630KB lower memory available. > >Dr. Alexander J. Annala >Senior Research Fellow >Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology >University College London > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:03:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13224; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:03:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03367; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:02:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:59:42 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03051; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:59:34 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA03453; Thu, 2 Nov 95 19:59:07 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00695; Thu, 2 Nov 95 19:57:01 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 19:57:00 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Can't boot from new hard drive Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I purchased a new 1.3gig Toshiba hard drive, and have installed it in my ThinkPad 755CX, but I can't boot off of it. I booted a floppy, formatted the drive and installed my OS, but the ThinkPad refuses to boot from the hard drive. I even ran the test from EZ Setup on the hard drive, and it reports ok. When I try to boot the computer, it spins the floppy, clicks the drive a little, then gives me some goofy screen that wants me to insert a floppy. Just for the hell of it, I pulled out the hard drive, booted without *any* hard drive, and got the same stupid screen. What do I have to do to get the ThinkPad to boot this new hard drive? --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:26:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15884; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:26:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05120; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:25:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:22:46 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04887; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:22:43 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (root@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA08898; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA12086; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:55:55 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511022355.PAA12086@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? To: Kenneth_Yee/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com (Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:55:52 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <9511021811.AA27393@internet1.lotus.com> from "Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus" at Nov 2, 95 01:13:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Not quite net rumor...this was from one of the design engineers > I bumped into on comp.sys.laptops. The display for the 701 can > also have 256K colors as opposed to the 64K colors in the rest > of the thinkpad line. Sounds like you know something about the 701's. May I ask a few questions? The display--256 colors or 64,000? (You wrote "256K" but I think that might be a mistake--please clarify). Also, can this thing actually be used outside? (i.e., is the screen viewable outdoors? My 750C is *terrible* for outdoor viewing...). Battery life (realistic) is...? Can you change to a new battery on the fly like on the 750's? Many thanks--I'm thinking of buying one of these things and I want to know what I'm getting into. ;-) ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:26:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15891; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:26:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05131; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:25:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:23:15 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04898; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:23:00 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (root@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA08936; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:22:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id QAA13244; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:03:21 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511030003.QAA13244@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? To: Kenneth_Yee/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com (Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:03:19 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <9511021811.AA27393@internet1.lotus.com> from "Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus" at Nov 2, 95 01:13:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Not quite net rumor...this was from one of the design engineers > I bumped into on comp.sys.laptops. The display for the 701 can > also have 256K colors as opposed to the 64K colors in the rest > of the thinkpad line. Sounds like you know something about this 701 machine...mind if I ask a few questions? My brother is with IBM and with that "friends" program, looks like I can get one inexpensively. Just want to make sure of a couple things... What's the battery life like? Can a new one be swapped-in on the fly like with the 750's? The Display--256 colors like you seem to mention (though you put 256K, but I presume that's a typo) or 64K? Is the display viewable outdoors or not? (The 750C I have is *terrible* outdoors--can't see it worth a darn--I *really* want a machine I can work outside with!). What ports are *on* the machine (as opposed to having to hook up some extra doo-dad)? Serial, Parallel, Video, Mouse, & PCMCIA? I presume the floppy drive, though external, is included in the package? Is the AC Adapter a small little animal (i.e., a "travel" adapter) too? Many thanks for your help or anyone else's in advance... ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:40:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17097; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:40:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06239; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:39:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:38:55 -0500 Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06153; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:38:46 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by alster.port.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA06799; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:59:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:59:28 -0500 (EST) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: multiple net connections In-Reply-To: <199511030233.NAA10404@leonard.anu.edu.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Alden S Klovdahl wrote: > any easy/inexpensive way to shift between different networks (eg, office, enet, > one ip address; lecture theater, enet, another ip address; home, modem, PPP, > still another ip address), without having to reconfigure each time, and > without having to pay a lot for functunality to you don't need? Ditto ...with Windows95 ....damn annoying to change all the settings in the network control panel and reboot each time I'm in the office or back at home. (With Linux, I just run one of two shell scripts that do the ifconfig and routing stuff.) http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:42:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17264; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:42:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06590; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:41:32 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:40:17 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06294; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:40:14 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA17616; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:39:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:39:28 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? In-Reply-To: <199511022355.PAA12086@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > Kenneth Yee wrote: > > Not quite net rumor...this was from one of the design engineers > > I bumped into on comp.sys.laptops. The display for the 701 can > > also have 256K colors as opposed to the 64K colors in the rest > > of the thinkpad line. > > Sounds like you know something about the 701's. May I ask a > few questions? I think he's referring to Doug Haigh. Doug works at IBM's U.S. Thinkpad development, first on the 350, then on the 701. He posted the original announcement for the 701 on comp.sys.laptops. I can mail you his email address. I'm a little reluctant to send it to the entire mailing list. > The display--256 colors or 64,000? (You wrote "256K" but I > think that might be a mistake--please clarify). The video on the 701 is capable of 24bit color. The video on the 75x machines can only do 8-bit or 16-bit. I'm not sure if the 256k (it is 256k, not 256) vs. 64k is a video thing or an active matrix thing. Whichever it is, a 755 with the 701's screen could only show 64k colors because of its video. Anyone know about the 760? ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:58:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17849; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:58:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08052; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:57:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:56:19 -0500 Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07854; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:56:16 -0500 Received: from violin-30.synapse.net (violin-30.synapse.net [199.84.52.208]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA05518 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:56:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511030456.XAA05518@sentinel.synapse.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:00:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Can't boot from new hard drive Reply-To: phong@phsmc.synapse.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) > I purchased a new 1.3gig Toshiba hard drive, and have installed it > in my ThinkPad 755CX, but I can't boot off of it. I booted a floppy, > formatted the drive and installed my OS, but the ThinkPad refuses > to boot from the hard drive. I even ran the test from EZ Setup on > the hard drive, and it reports ok. Sorry if this sounds too trivial, but when you formatted the drive, did you transfer the system files? If you're using DOS, you can transfer the system files with the FORMAT /S command or use the SYS C: after booting from the floppy. Note, you have to copy the SYS.COM to your boot disk as it is not part of the DOS kernal. ...patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:58:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18103; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:58:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07956; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:57:06 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:54:26 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07558; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:54:23 -0500 Received: from [128.125.222.128] (comserv-g-35.usc.edu [128.125.223.179]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id UAA16735; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:54:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:01:58 -0800 To: "John H. Kim" From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? Cc: TP At 11:39 PM 11/2/95, John H. Kim wrote: >> Sounds like you know something about the 701's. May I ask a >> few questions? > >I think he's referring to Doug Haigh. Doug works at IBM's U.S. >Thinkpad development, first on the 350, then on the 701. He posted >the original announcement for the 701 on comp.sys.laptops. I can >mail you his email address. I'm a little reluctant to send it to >the entire mailing list. Please do send it to me if you will, John. >> The display--256 colors or 64,000? (You wrote "256K" but I >> think that might be a mistake--please clarify). > >The video on the 701 is capable of 24bit color. Hmph! Well 24-bit would be 16.7 Million colors--but 256,000 would still be very good if it can do that. ;-) Do you know if the video is "true" acceleration, or just local bus of some sort (or both)? > The video on the >75x machines can only do 8-bit or 16-bit. I'm not sure if the 256k >(it is 256k, not 256) vs. 64k is a video thing or an active matrix >thing. Whichever it is, a 755 with the 701's screen could only show >64k colors because of its video. Anyone know about the 760? So you're say that the 701's video is better than the 755? Does it by chance do 800x600 like the newer 755's do also? And I don't suppose you know about the battery life issue, do you? ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 00:05:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18475; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:05:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09029; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:04:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:03:20 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08854; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:03:17 -0500 Received: from [128.125.222.128] (comserv-g-35.usc.edu [128.125.223.179]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id VAA18763; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:03:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:10:55 -0800 To: otooleco@pobox.com (Sean T. O'Toole), tp750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: 28.8 Modems At 3:52 PM 11/2/95, Sean T. O'Toole wrote: >I'm looking to upgrade to a 28.8 pcmcia now that prices seem to be >moderating. My question is this: Are there any units in particular that I >should avoid? How about any that are head and shoulders above the rest? DON'T buy anything by Practical Peripherals! I had nothing but trouble out of the blasted thing and the company itself nearly screwed me. In contrast, though I've had only a couple weeks to try it out, I've been very happy with the Megahurtz modem I have. The PPI--first the thing wasn't properly grounded, then the "X-Jack" thingy wouldn't stay inside the modem when pushed in. Got another one via warranty (after weeks of waiting)--same problem with the X-Jack, right out of the box! Complained: Waited 4 MONTHS--then got a BILL from PPI saying they had shipped me a modem (they didn't) and I hadn't sent mine back (of course, 'cuz I never got a new one!). Bitched, moaned, cried...*finally* got another modem (after 2 more months) from the factory a couple weeks ago. I *Immediately* sold it while it was still in good shape, replacing it with a new Megahurtz modem. I'll never buy anything made by PPI again. Poor quality product (at least this one was--imagine having to go through 2 modems before the 3rd one finally gets it right!), and *rotten* customer service (I'm willing to bet I spent nearly $40 in long distance charges just because these fools could never get anything done in a reasonable amount of time). Its no wonder these people are under bankrupcty protection--they stink and probably don't deserve to stay in business. Just my two vitriolic cents... ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 00:12:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18941; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:12:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09588; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:10:58 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:07:31 -0500 Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09244; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:07:29 -0500 Received: from violin-30.synapse.net (violin-30.synapse.net [199.84.52.208]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id AAA05910 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:07:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511030507.AAA05910@sentinel.synapse.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:11:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Network Connectivity... Part 2 Reply-To: phong@phsmc.synapse.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) I would like some advice and / or hear of any experiences you have connecting your notebook to various networks. I have a Thinkpad 755CX running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 (yes, still) to remain compatible with my client. I have a 3Com Etherlink 3C589 PCMCIA network card and loading 3COM's Novell VLM drivers to connect to by client's Novell 3.12 network. My problem is that I want to connect to my P-90 computer at home to share the tape backup unit and CD-ROM drive. Most importantly, the tape back-up for obvious reasons. I have Windows for Workgroups running on the P-90 but have not installed the peer-to-peer network drivers since I don't know if this is the best way to go. One of my assoicates says the peer-to-peer services in WFWG is messy as it modifies my WIN.INI / SYSTEM.INI files and I may not be able to connect to my client's Novell server anymore. The bottom line is that I don't want messier INI files if I don't have to and would rather add another boot configuration that loads drivers outside of Windows. With this, I can isolate and manage my network configurations outside of Windows. I'm inching closer and closer to installing Lantastic on both my notebook and P-90 but would like to hear anyone's experiences on this matter. Being an independent consultant, I cannot risk any down time with my notebook and desparately need to back-up the hard drive. Thanks in advance... patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 00:13:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19538; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:13:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09736; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:12:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:11:13 -0500 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09617; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:11:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199511030511.AAA09617@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-1.ucl.ac.uk by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 05:10:52 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: A J Annala Subject: Can't boot from new hard drive Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 05:10:54 +0000 >I purchased a new 1.3gig Toshiba hard drive, and have installed it >in my ThinkPad 755CX, but I can't boot off of it. >What do I have to do to get the ThinkPad to boot this new hard >drive? I had the same problem on my old IBM PS/2 Note N51/sx (386SX-16, 2MB, 40MB) system. The drive passed diagnostics. It just wouldn't boot. This seems to be a common DOS problem on notebooks. I've never seen anyone have the same problem on desktop systems. There is what seems to be an undocumented flag on FORMAT, FDISK, or SYS -- /WMB -- which means something like Write Master Boot (block). You probably need to run this command to boot from your hard drive. Neither one of the following two paragraphs apply to your system: Also, there may be an issue with the geometry of your drive. Some BIOS (I'm not sure about your BIOS) do not like to boot from an image which is stored on a hard drive above the 1024th cylinder. You can get around this problem by making two partitions -- and keeping the bootable image of DOS in the first partition -- below the 1024th cylinder. If you had a TP750, 750C, 750Ce, 750Cs, or 750P with the original BIOS you might need to install the new system program service diskette -- SYTPS141 available from http://www.pc.ibm.com/pub/mobiles -- the V1.05 update of the system program enabled access to disk drive >= 512MB. Does anyone know why the /WMB flag (or whatever it is) is undocumented? I have to work from vague ancient memories to answer this question. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 00:23:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19834; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:23:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10494; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:22:09 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:20:43 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10353; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:20:40 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA17821; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:19:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:19:43 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Randy Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Randy Whittle wrote: > Do you know if the [TP701] video is "true" acceleration, or > just local bus of some sort (or both)? It's the Chips and Technologies 65545 chipset. Same as in the Toshiba 4900CT, Zeos Meridian 850, Dell LX4100D, Gateway Liberty, and NEC Versa M and P75. I think it's also in the Toshiba 610CT. This chipset has a pretty bad rep among Linux users because (rumor) the exact hardware implementation can be varied by the notebook manufacturer, making it difficult to write drivers for. > So you're say that the 701's video is better than the 755? > Does it by chance do 800x600 like the newer 755's do also? Well, the 701 supports more colors. I don't know if it's any faster. I haven't seen any benchmarks comparing it and the WD90C24(A) in the 350/360/750/755. > And I don't suppose you know about the battery life issue, do you? No. I'm considering a 701 and the battery life is my chief concern. I've heard 1h45m on comp.sys.laptops. That's a pretty big drop from the 3.5-5 hours I get on my 750 mono. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 01:07:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22229; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:07:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12789; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 01:06:46 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 01:03:32 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12475; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 01:03:01 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA04291; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:02:06 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA01117; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:00:31 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 22:00:30 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: "A J Annala" Subject: Re: Can't boot from new hard drive Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199511030511.aaa09617@cs.utk.edu> References: <199511030511.aaa09617@cs.utk.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit On Nov. 02 95, 21:10 PST, "A J Annala" wrote: > This seems to be a common DOS problem on notebooks. I've never > seen anyone have the same problem on desktop systems. There is > what seems to be an undocumented flag on FORMAT, FDISK, or SYS -- > /WMB -- which means something like Write Master Boot (block). You > probably need to run this command to boot from your hard drive. Well, fdisk didn't like the /WMB option, but when I ran it, it claimed there were no partitions at all on the disk. I told it to go ahead and create a DOS partition (I'm installing NeXTSTEP, and dedicating the entire drive to it), and when I rebooted, the drive was happy to boot. Of course, it trashed the NeXTSTEP that was there, so I had to re-install that. After re-installing NeXTSTEP, the drive no longer wants to boot. What's going on here? --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 02:40:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26757; Fri, 3 Nov 95 02:40:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19480; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 02:39:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 02:37:41 -0500 Received: from ptarmigan.CS.Berkeley.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19281; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 02:37:35 -0500 Received: (from steverod@localhost) by ptarmigan.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA26600 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:38:12 -0800 From: Steve Rodrigues Message-Id: <199511030738.XAA26600@ptarmigan.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:38:12 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John H. Kim wrote: > On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Randy Whittle wrote: > > Do you know if the [TP701] video is "true" acceleration, or > > just local bus of some sort (or both)? > > It's the Chips and Technologies 65545 chipset. Same as in the > Toshiba 4900CT, Zeos Meridian 850, Dell LX4100D, Gateway Liberty, > and NEC Versa M and P75. I think it's also in the Toshiba 610CT. > This chipset has a pretty bad rep among Linux users because (rumor) > the exact hardware implementation can be varied by the notebook > manufacturer, making it difficult to write drivers for. I believe that it's 'just' an accelerator, not local bus. One annoying thing is that it appears to only support 60Hz refresh external, and even worse, the drivers it comes with do 1024x768 interlaced. It looks *hideous*. (I am, however, rather sensitive to this stuff.) > > So you're say that the 701's video is better than the 755? > > Does it by chance do 800x600 like the newer 755's do also? On the LCD, no. It's still 640x480. (It's amazing how cramped that feels now....) > > And I don't suppose you know about the battery life issue, do you? > No. I'm considering a 701 and the battery life is my chief concern. > I've heard 1h45m on comp.sys.laptops. That's a pretty big drop from > the 3.5-5 hours I get on my 750 mono. Was this the NiCd or NiMH battery? I got a NiMH with mine (I got the top of the line DX4/75,8M720M,TFT) and bought a second battery, also NiMH. The battery gauge (which is quite cool-looking :) claims that a full charge is good for 3:28 or so. Floppy usage kills it, unsurprisingly. It ostensibly hot-swaps. Mine, as shipped, did so very unreliably, and as a result, it is now sitting somewhere in Memphis awaiting a new motherboard. :( (The modem jack also didn't make a connection with the phone line.) The AC adapter is a two-prong, handles 120-240V. You can also get a "worldwide" AC adapter (about $49 list) which supposedly works elsewhere. We'll see. I like mine, feature-wise. But I'm rather perturbed that it shipped with two immediately obvious flaws (the modem jack and the unreliable hot swap). I've also heard unkind things about the mic. If it works, you should have a nice machine. And the size and weight is just wonderful. Steve -- Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 03:12:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27831; Fri, 3 Nov 95 03:12:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21672; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 03:11:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 03:09:33 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21355; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 03:09:30 -0500 Received: from [128.125.222.128] (comserv-b-40.usc.edu [128.125.222.40]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id AAA13335; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:09:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:17:09 -0800 To: Steve Rodrigues , tp750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? At 11:38 PM 11/2/95, Steve Rodrigues wrote: >On the LCD, no. It's still 640x480. >(It's amazing how cramped that feels now....) Ahhh, and owner! Steve, did you ever try to use this thing outdoors in outdoor ambient light? Could you see the screen worth a darn? My 750C is absolutely worthless outside, and that's something I'd like to use a notebook machine for. >> > And I don't suppose you know about the battery life issue, do you? > >> No. I'm considering a 701 and the battery life is my chief concern. >> I've heard 1h45m on comp.sys.laptops. That's a pretty big drop from >> the 3.5-5 hours I get on my 750 mono. > >Was this the NiCd or NiMH battery? I got a NiMH with mine (I got the top >of the line DX4/75,8M720M,TFT) and bought a second battery, also NiMH. >The battery gauge (which is quite cool-looking :) claims that a full charge is >good for 3:28 or so. Floppy usage kills it, unsurprisingly. Have you actually *timed* it though? My current 750C batt. guage used to claim 3:30 everytime, but I never got any more than 2:30 (even less now that the battery is a bit used up--but that guage still starts off at 3:30...) I'd like to know what the *realistic* time is under normal use (though with all the battery-save features turned on). That doesn't have to include floppy usage either. Can you give me your experience? >The AC adapter is a two-prong, handles 120-240V. You can also get a "worldwide" How big/heavy is it? ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 09:17:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16523; Fri, 3 Nov 95 09:17:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24012; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:16:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:11:42 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23583; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:11:38 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA2182; Fri, 03 Nov 95 10:10:06 -0800 Message-Id: <9511031810.AA2182@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id EBDE3D6FB80573DB85256269004D0FD4; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:10:06 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 3 Nov 95 9:03:07 EDT Subject: Re: 28.8 Modems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....and 755's (c, cd, cse)...." ~~~~~ oops... but i think you get the picture. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 10:18:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19528; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:18:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29269; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:12:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:10:10 -0500 Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28882; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:08:36 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA00231; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:08:31 EST Message-Id: <9511031508.AA00231@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:23:53 +0100 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: multiple net connections >any easy/inexpensive way to shift between different networks (eg, office, enet, >one ip address; lecture theater, enet, another ip address; home, modem, PPP, >still another ip address), without having to reconfigure each time, and >without having to pay a lot for functunality to you don't need? > >on a tp755ce running wfwg 3.11 I can't help there, but I have a very similar problem running warp and tcpip for OS/2 2.0. I can run via pcmcia ethernet, and I can make a PPP connection via modem, but I can't get tcpip applications to talk to the PPP connection. The documantation suggests that it should be possible to run both without a complete re-configure each time, but they don't say how to set it up. In typical IBM fashion, the manual only includes information which should be common knowledge to any semi computer literate person. Anything more complicated is refered to another manual which, presumably, you have to track down and purchase separately. Any ideas for either of us? ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 11:05:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21646; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:05:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03287; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:51:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:49:21 -0500 Received: from lotus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02858; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:49:18 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA22121; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:02:47 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06085; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:44:05 -0500 Message-Id: <9511031544.AA06085@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.02 Beta) id 8CA1C43BCD877E20852562690055BD51; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:44:03 EST To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP From: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Date: 3 Nov 95 10:43:49 EST Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > The display--256 colors or 64,000? (You wrote "256K" but I > think that might be a mistake--please clarify). John Kim is right about the engineer who posted. I replied to him and asked him a bunch of questions after the post :-) The display is not an IBM display..I think it is a Sharp one. He said it could display 278000 colors (hardware) if I remember right in 16M color mode (on the video driver). The 64K color for current 75x and 76x systems is a limitation of the panel on the thinkpads. I actually think it's a combined limitation of the drivers on the video chip and the video display but can't confirm unless I get the design specs on the video chip and panels. > Also, can this thing actually be used outside? (i.e., is > the screen viewable outdoors? My 750C is *terrible* for outdoor > viewing...). The "black matrix" ones are supposed to be usable outside. This includes the 755CE/CD series and the 760. This is supposed to be one of the enhancements in the newer IBM displays. Not sure about the butterfly. > Battery life (realistic) is...? Can you change to a new > battery on the fly like on the 750's? No idea on this unfortunately. The lack of expandability (no Mwave and no expansion slot) killed my thoughts on buying one. The weight and size are excellent though... ken From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 12:21:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25847; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:21:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13216; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:19:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:11:57 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12318; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:11:48 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id JAA06894; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:11:38 -0800 Received: from cds8962.cadence.com(158.140.56.57) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma006743; Fri Nov 3 09:11:02 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds8962.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id JAA03763; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:13:16 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:13:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199511031713.JAA03763@cds8962.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au, tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: multiple net connections At 01:33 PM 11/3/95 +1100, you wrote: > >any easy/inexpensive way to shift between different networks (eg, office, enet, >one ip address; lecture theater, enet, another ip address; home, modem, PPP, >still another ip address), without having to reconfigure each time, and >without having to pay a lot for functunality to you don't need? > >on a tp755ce running wfwg 3.11 > Well, for $89.95 (US) you can... Move to Win95. In W95 you can have separate LAN, and multiple PPP "Connectiods" that each have their own IP, and Gateway. The three DNS IPs are shared, however. Regards, -Ted **************************** Ted Frederick Principal Mgr. DM Practice Voice: 408.894.2275 Fax: 408.894.3484 tedf@cadence.com **************************** From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 12:45:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27474; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:45:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14938; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:40:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:38:56 -0500 Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14813; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:38:54 -0500 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA20846 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:38:39 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA09036; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:38:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:38:35 -0500 (EST) From: aoster Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: multiple net connections In-Reply-To: <199511031713.JAA03763@cds8962.Cadence.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Ted Frederick wrote: > At 01:33 PM 11/3/95 +1100, you wrote: > > > >any easy/inexpensive way to shift between different networks (eg, office, enet, > >one ip address; lecture theater, enet, another ip address; home, modem, PPP, > >still another ip address), without having to reconfigure each time, and > >without having to pay a lot for functunality to you don't need? > > > >on a tp755ce running wfwg 3.11 > > Well, for $89.95 (US) you can... > > Move to Win95. In W95 you can have separate LAN, and multiple PPP > "Connectiods" that each have their own IP, and Gateway. The three DNS IPs > are shared, however. No ...you can have multiple PPP configurations but not multiple LAN (Ethernet) configurations. http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 12:47:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27674; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:47:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15526; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:45:31 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:44:34 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15300; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:44:32 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.162] (comserv-h-24.usc.edu [128.125.224.24]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA23125 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:44:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:52:13 -0800 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not? Okay--for all of you with the 75X machines and your "BlackMatrix" TFT displays--can you use/read these things outdoors in outdoor ambient light or not? Is it usable outside? Have any of your had a chance to compare with other displays outdoors? ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 13:12:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00050; Fri, 3 Nov 95 13:12:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17128; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:04:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:03:29 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16959; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:03:27 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA29846 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:03:18 -0600 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:03:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199511031803.MAA29846@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not? At 09:52 AM 11/3/95 -0800, you wrote: > > Okay--for all of you with the 75X machines and your "BlackMatrix" >TFT displays--can you use/read these things outdoors in outdoor ambient >light or not? > > Is it usable outside? Have any of your had a chance to compare >with other displays outdoors? > the display on my 755CE (black matrix) is defintely easier to read in outdoor light than my 750C was. however, it is still far from "easy" to read outdoors (like a mono passive display is, for instance). with black matrix i can actually get some email done, for instance, in the passenger seat of a sunny car. but it is still very very hard to see sitting outside on a sunny patio. note that the black matrix is about the best you can get for an active color outdoors from any vendor; in this case, however, i think the best still isn't good enough. bottom line: it is an improvement, but not as anywhere as great as i would have liked. --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 14:01:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04520; Fri, 3 Nov 95 14:01:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23161; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:58:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:55:39 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22876; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:55:34 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id KAA22180; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:55:30 -0800 Received: from cds8962.cadence.com(158.140.56.57) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma022022; Fri Nov 3 10:55:05 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds8962.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id KAA03768; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:57:00 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:57:00 -0800 Message-Id: <199511031857.KAA03768@cds8962.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: alster@interport.net, tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: multiple net connections At 12:38 PM 11/3/95 -0500, aoster wrote: >On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Ted Frederick wrote: >> >> Well, for $89.95 (US) you can... >> >> Move to Win95. In W95 you can have separate LAN, and multiple PPP >> "Connectiods" that each have their own IP, and Gateway. The three DNS IPs >> are shared, however. > >No ...you can have multiple PPP configurations but not multiple LAN >(Ethernet) configurations. > Yes, it was my intent to convey that very message with my original e-mail, as terse as it was ;). It obviously needed further explanation, thank you for clearing that up. Note that I said a "separate LAN", not "multiple LANs". In order to change LAN settings, you must go into the Network Properties and change the IPs, gateway, etc., manually and then reboot. Multiple LANs are still problematic in Win95. Microsoft says that they intend to address this issue in future releases. I believe that the dial-up "Connectiods" are a step in the right direction. -Ted ************************ Ted Frederick Principal Mgr. DM Practice Cadence Design Systems tedf@cadence.com ************************ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 14:04:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04544; Fri, 3 Nov 95 14:04:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23358; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:00:13 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:59:13 -0500 Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23181; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:59:09 -0500 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA00246 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:59:00 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id NAA20462; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:58:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:58:55 -0500 (EST) From: aoster Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: multiple net connections In-Reply-To: <199511031857.KAA03768@cds8962.Cadence.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Ted Frederick wrote: > At 12:38 PM 11/3/95 -0500, aoster wrote: > > >On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Ted Frederick wrote: > >> > >> Well, for $89.95 (US) you can... > >> > >> Move to Win95. In W95 you can have separate LAN, and multiple PPP > >> "Connectiods" that each have their own IP, and Gateway. The three DNS IPs > >> are shared, however. > > > >No ...you can have multiple PPP configurations but not multiple LAN > >(Ethernet) configurations. > > Yes, it was my intent to convey that very message with my original e-mail, > as terse as it was ;). It obviously needed further explanation, thank you > for clearing that up. > > Note that I said a "separate LAN", not "multiple LANs". In order to change > LAN settings, you must go into the Network Properties and change the IPs, > gateway, etc., manually and then reboot. Multiple LANs are still > problematic in Win95. Microsoft says that they intend to address this issue > in future releases. Yes, it's terribly annoying to do it twice a day. http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 14:12:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06417; Fri, 3 Nov 95 14:12:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24225; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:09:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:08:45 -0500 Received: from chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24051; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:08:42 -0500 Received: (from steverod@localhost) by chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA29889 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:08:27 -0800 From: Steve Rodrigues Message-Id: <199511031908.LAA29889@chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:08:26 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randy Whittle wrote: > Ahhh, and owner! Steve, did you ever try to use this thing > outdoors in outdoor ambient light? Could you see the screen worth a darn? > My 750C is absolutely worthless outside, and that's something I'd like to > use a notebook machine for. Well, I tried it while relaxing in a sunbeam.... it's pretty bad. The colors wash out pretty easily. > >> > And I don't suppose you know about the battery life issue, do you? > Have you actually *timed* it though? My current 750C batt. guage > used to claim 3:30 everytime, but I never got any more than 2:30 (even less > now that the battery is a bit used up--but that guage still starts off at > 3:30...) Nope, haven't had much of a chance to time it yet. I remember PC Mag's drain test gave the NiCd 1:41, with continuous usage. I haven't tried it yet. > >The AC adapter is a two-prong, handles 120-240V. > How big/heavy is it? The shipped US adapter is about the size of a large pack of cigarettes. Can't give you a definitive weight, but it doesn't seem very heavy. Again, PC Mag's "travel weight" is 5.1 lbs. (That includes the MultiPort and AC adapter, i assume....) You had asked about connectors. It has: (a) a docking station connector (b) a modem jack (c) an infrared port (d) audio-out (headphones) (e) audio-in (f) a port which you can either use as a parallel port or the disk drive port (must use a special cable for either). That's it. The MultiPort II (included) has a VGA, serial, and parallel port, along with mouse and keyboard ports. Steve -- Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 14:57:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09017; Fri, 3 Nov 95 14:57:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28401; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:55:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:53:57 -0500 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28284; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:53:48 -0500 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HX7L50RNKW000Y32@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 14:53:37 -0500 (EST) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Re: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not? In-Reply-To: Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <815428417.348868.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: > Okay--for all of you with the 75X machines and your "BlackMatrix" > TFT displays--can you use/read these things outdoors in outdoor ambient > light or not? In direct sunlight - not a prayer. Inside an equipment van with the doors open and rather high levels of ambient light it works fine, but I don't know exactly how much light there is here. Even with flouresent (sp?) light on inside the van it's still very readable. Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 14:57:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09022; Fri, 3 Nov 95 14:57:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28349; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:54:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:52:04 -0500 Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28172; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:52:00 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA01320; Fri, 3 Nov 95 14:51:54 EST Message-Id: <9511031951.AA01320@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:07:18 +0100 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: multiple net connections About 20 minutes after sending my original question, Bob Cowles replied with the following: >Before connecting to PPP, in an OS/2 command line window, enter > > IFCONFIG LAN0 DOWN > >Before switching back to use the ethernet enter > > IFCONFIG LAN0 UP > > >It works for me. Currently using WARP Connect, but the same thing worked >using Warp and TCPIP 2.0. (forwarded with the author's permission) I hibernated my computer, went home with my computer (work uses digital lines), woke up the computer, executed the above command, did a ppp connect (with dynamicly allocated IP) and I was off and running. All tcpip programs worked great. I then returned to work, executed the second command, and now I'm telnetting and ftping over lan. No need to reboot or alter any settings. This is so typical of IBM; hiding their best features as if they were state secrets! The only complication is that I have to hot-plug my pcmcia modem and ethernet cards after hibernation in order to reset them. My life would be complete if I could find a way of forcing a PCMCIA reset via software instead of ejecting and re-inserting the cards. Thanks again to Bob Cowles. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Nov 3 15:48:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12655; Fri, 3 Nov 95 15:48:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24451; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:10:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:09:35 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24138; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:09:32 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id LAA24110; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:09:11 -0800 Received: from cds8962.cadence.com(158.140.56.57) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma024099; Fri Nov 3 11:09:07 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds8962.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id LAA03773; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:11:08 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:11:08 -0800 Message-Id: <199511031911.LAA03773@cds8962.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, tannenba@engr.wisc.edu From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not? At 12:03 PM 11/3/95 -0600, Todd Tannenbaum wrote: > >the display on my 755CE (black matrix) is defintely easier to read in >outdoor light than my 750C was. however, it is still far from "easy" to >read outdoors (like a mono passive display is, for instance). > >with black matrix i can actually get some email done, for instance, in the >passenger seat of a sunny car. but it is still very very hard to see >sitting outside on a sunny patio. note that the black matrix is about the >best you can get for an active color outdoors from any vendor; in this case, >however, i think the best still isn't good enough. > >bottom line: it is an improvement, but not as anywhere as great as i would >have liked. > (This is to the group, not just Todd) Gee whiz guys, what do you want ? Ever try watching TV outside in the sun? You can't see that very well either. Even the Sony Jumbotron in Times Square is hard to see in bright sunlight. You're disgruntled because your display isn't bright enough to be seen clearly in direct sunlight, and in the next breath want the battery to last 12 hours. Free lunch? NIET! -Ted Hmmm, maybe a small fusion reactor would do the trick. (And you thought the Pentium was hot....) ************************ Ted Frederick Principal Mgr. DM Practice Cadence Design Systems tedf@cadence.com ************************ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 17:07:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18272; Fri, 3 Nov 95 17:07:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10384; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:06:16 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:02:10 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09971; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:02:07 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA04857; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id OAA27488; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:01:54 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511032201.OAA27488@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not? To: tedf@cadence.com (Ted Frederick) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:01:51 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <199511031911.LAA03773@cds8962.Cadence.COM> from "Ted Frederick" at Nov 3, 95 11:11:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >the display on my 755CE (black matrix) is defintely easier to read in > >outdoor light than my 750C was. however, it is still far from "easy" to > >bottom line: it is an improvement, but not as anywhere as great as i would > >have liked. > Gee whiz guys, what do you want ? > > Ever try watching TV outside in the sun? You can't see that very well > either. Even the Sony Jumbotron in Times Square is hard to see in bright > sunlight. The issue isn't so much one of lighting as much as reflectivity. There is so much *glare* on the screen its impossible to read. But for me, I'm perfectly willing to sit in the shade--but my 750's screen is as bad in the shady outdoors as it is in direct sun. It just makes me puke when you see IBM ads with people and their ThinkPads ("Use it wherever you think best!") sitting on a rock in the bright, sunny mountains, happily using their little black notebook machine. Part of the reason I bought the dumb thing is to be able to do something akin to that--but its impossible. If it *can't* be done then *don't* feed me something that is tantamount to a *lie*. That's no better than the claimed battery life of 3.4 to 8 hours when *nobody* on this list ever got any better than 2.5 hours with their 750's (except the mono people--their actual numbers were just about what the marketing claim was). > You're disgruntled because your display isn't bright enough to be seen > clearly in direct sunlight, and in the next breath want the battery to last > 12 hours. Nevertheless, why not a secondary backlight? Could be turned on in bright conditions for maximum readibility in sunlight, off for max battery life (or just a brighter main backlight for everything--turn it up in the sun, down indoors). ThinkPads are generally considered to have screens that are not as bright as their competition's. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 18:00:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22326; Fri, 3 Nov 95 18:00:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14758; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:57:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:55:56 -0500 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14607; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:55:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199511032255.RAA14607@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-2.ucl.ac.uk by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:51:41 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: "Dr. Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Re: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not? Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:55:36 +0000 IF you REALLY WANT TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM do what casio did for sports fans attending American footbll and baseball games -- they use a transparent back panel which can be propped up and viewed with a translucent white panel that is illuminated by sunlight behind the TFT matrix - it works in a pocket TV -- it hould work fine with any of the Thinkpad projection TV systems -- the TP with the detachable LCD screen -- or one of the overhead projector screens. This solves the main problems with reflected sunlight illumination and low power backlight vs TFT screens. > Nevertheless, why not a secondary backlight? Could be turned on >in bright conditions for maximum readibility in sunlight, off for max >battery life (or just a brighter main backlight for everything--turn it up >in the sun, down indoors). ThinkPads are generally considered to have >screens that are not as bright as their competition's. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 22:34:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11626; Fri, 3 Nov 95 22:34:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03607; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:33:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:30:05 -0500 Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03204; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:30:03 -0500 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA11792; Fri, 3 Nov 95 22:30:02 -0500 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9511032230.ZM11790@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:30:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Win95: sound settings for a 750Cs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 I'm happily running Win95 with sound on my 750Cs, but I was wondering if there are any tricks involved in optimizing the settings... Like what drivers to load, and in what order. I was also wondering if anyone has the optimized settings for running DOS programs inside a DOS box (Excuse the OS/2'ism) with sound. Any sugestions? I'm sure that my settings could be optimized, but I'm not sure how.... Thanks in advance... Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 4 13:20:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11668; Sat, 4 Nov 95 13:20:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01271; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:19:15 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:10:19 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00852; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:10:10 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA10756 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 17:44:49 GMT Message-Id: <199511041744.RAA10756@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip37-223-66.ibm.net(129.37.223.66) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaOPMDmb; Sat Nov 4 17:44:44 1995 From: Stephen Hosmer To: "'tp750@cs.utk.edu'" Date: Sun, 04 Nov 95 10:24:12 +0700 Reply-To: Stephen Hosmer X-Mailer: PMMail 1.5 Beta (Build 102) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SCSI backup On Tue, 31 Oct 95 17:03:48 PST, William Ng Wrote: I am using the original Adaptec 460 PCMCIA-SCSI with an Python 4mm DAT drive and Cheyenne's Arcsolo software (actualy their 30 trial, which is available on ftp.leo.org). It works great, I think I may buy it. >I am buying a scsi adaptor for a cdrom. The scsi adaptor is >an adaptec APA-1460 pcmcia scsi2 adaptor. Is it possible to >use this adaptor with a scsi tape drive used on Sun workstations >to do backup for OS/2 and Windows (FAT)? I am not talking about >backing up over the network. I am thinking of unplugging a 8mm, >2GByte capacity tape drive which is tied to a Sun workstation >and then plug it into the pcmcia adaptor. If this is doable, what >software should I get? ____________________________ Royale Energy Inc (NASDAQ: ROYL) Stephen Hosmer hosmer@ibm.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 4 14:40:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17303; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:40:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05705; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:39:43 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:38:10 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05600; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:38:06 -0500 Received: from orbit by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA16389; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:38:03 -0800 From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Message-Id: <9511041938.AA16389@nvc.cc.ca.us> Received: by orbit.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NX3.0X) id AA02004; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:38:02 -0800 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:38:02 -0800 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM ThinkPad 755CX (long) Organization: Napa Valley College Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I recently installed NeXTSTEP on an IBM ThinkPad 755CX, and I thought I'd write up a little review of how it went, and how I like using NeXTSTEP on it (so far). I've been using NeXTSTEP on NeXT computers since NeXTSTEP 0.9, and have been dying to get a NeXTSTEP notebook for a long time. The ThinkPad has a 75mhz Pentium, 800x600x16bit LCD, 40megs of RAM, a Toshiba 1.3gig HD, a Xircom IIps PS-CE2-10BC (UTP/BNC), and Adaptec 1460 SlimSCSI. I've also got a 540meg HD with Win95 on it. I decided to install via SCSI, instead of doing it over the network, based on previous experiences with both types of installations on desktop machines. It took a bit of struggling to figure out that I needed *two* PCMCIA drivers, one for the PCMCIA bus, and the other for the Intel 82365 chipset that drives the PCMCIA. After figuring that out, NeXTSTEP finally noticed I had a SCSI card, and was able to boot up off the CD. I wanted to dedicate the *entire* drive to NeXTSTEP (after all, when I want DOS/Windows, I'll put in the other HD). When it gave me some options about making DOS partitions and what not, I told it to use the entire drive for NeXTSTEP (I'd really like to make 3 NeXTSTEP partitions, but I don't think that's possible). After completing the installation, and trying to reboot, the computer was unable to boot off the drive. NeXTSTEP had done a raw install, and had used every single sector, including sectors normally used for the DOS partitioning scheme. Unfortunately, the BIOS in the ThinkPad can only boot by using the DOS partitioning scheme. I went ahead and rebooted off the CD, and reinstalled NeXTSTEP again, this time going into the advanced options and making a single NeXTSTEP partition using the menu the CD gives you. After reinstalling, it still wouldn't boot. NeXTSTEP had decided that since there was only a single partition, and it was dedicated to NeXTSTEP, it would again raw format the drive. I rebooted once again off the CD, and this time caved and made both a NeXTSTEP partition *and* a DOS partition. I made the DOS partition very tiny (only 2 megs), because I have no intention of putting DOS on that drive. After doing the install this time, the drive was finally bootable. After the CD finished installing, and rebooted the computer, it came up, and of course asked me to insert the floppy that had several drivers that were not on the CD (ones relating to the PCMCIA and EIDE). Unfortunately, it only remembered 3 of the 4 drivers I had loaded >from floppy, the EIDE, Adaptec SlimSCSI, and one of the PCMCIA drivers. So after it booted up a ways, it freaked out because it couldn't find the CD drive that it wanted to mount and finish up installation, and went into single-user mode. I ignored its problem and just exited the shell, so that it would continue to boot up. When I got NeXTSTEP booted up, and had gotten through Configure the first time, and had finally been able to login, I was able to use Configure to load the rest of the drivers from floppy, so it could locate the SCSI card again. I was then able to reboot and install the rest of the packages from the CD. I was actually impressed with the speed of the video under NeXTSTEP. The computer came with Win3.1 pre-installed, and running 16bit under that was just fine. But I was only able to withstand Win3.1 for about a week, then I put Win95 on it. The video performance under Win95 was horrible. I was worried that maybe the video really was slow. Nope, just Win95. It's plenty fast enough under NeXTSTEP. One of the things that annoys me is that when I tell NeXTSTEP to turn off the computer, it gives me the screen that says, "Please wait until it's safe to turn off your computer," and then in a bit, "It's now safe to turn off your computer," but doesn't actually turn the computer off itself. Win95 *does* turn the computer off by itself. I also really miss use of the MWave DSP. I *really* want sound better than a stupid beep, and I *really* miss the 28.8 modem that the DSP is capable of. The voice mail/answering machine/speakerphone stuff I can live without, but I wouldn't mind having them too. :-) It also looks like I'm gonna have to boot into DOS anytime I want to turn on/off the serial port or IR interface. I don't know of any way to run the ThinkPad setup utilities under NeXTSTEP. I also couldn't get any of the standby, suspend, or hibernate modes to do anything. The NeXTAnswer on installing NeXTSTEP says that only standby is supported, and closing the lid. I couldn't resist, and had to see if it would hang. It didn't at all, and closing the lid simply turns off the LCD screen. I haven't yet figured out how to get into the ROM monitor, or work with funky numpad which is overlaid on top of the regular keyboard. Overall, I'm really happy to finally have NeXTSTEP on a notebook (and can't wait to take it to work and show it off), but I'd still like to see better support of the extra ThinkPad goodies like the MWave DSP, and the ability to actually power off the computer from software. I'm also a little disappointed the video is only 12bit, rather than 16, but that seems to be a problem with *any* 16bit video card. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 4 18:40:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03451; Sat, 4 Nov 95 18:40:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19620; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:40:29 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:37:28 -0500 Received: from mail.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19473; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:37:15 -0500 Received: from icarus2.opt-sci.arizona.edu (icarus2.Opt-Sci.Arizona.EDU [150.135.52.8]) by mail.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.6.8.1/8.6.6c) with ESMTP id QAA27335 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:37:32 -0700 Received: from cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (cobra.Opt-Sci.Arizona.EDU [150.135.52.21]) by icarus2.opt-sci.arizona.edu (8.6.12/b) with ESMTP id QAA12807 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:37:08 -0700 Received: by cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (SMI-8.6/SMIb) id QAA07076; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:37:03 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:37:03 -0700 From: stu@icarus2.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (Stuart Biggar) Message-Id: <199511042337.QAA07076@cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: SCSI backup X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII On Tue, 31 Oct 95 17:03:48 PST, William Ng Wrote: >I am buying a scsi adaptor for a cdrom. The scsi adaptor is >an adaptec APA-1460 pcmcia scsi2 adaptor. Is it possible to >use this adaptor with a scsi tape drive used on Sun workstations >to do backup for OS/2 and Windows (FAT)? I am not talking about >backing up over the network. I am thinking of unplugging a 8mm, >2GByte capacity tape drive which is tied to a Sun workstation >and then plug it into the pcmcia adaptor. If this is doable, what >software should I get? I have been using an IBM PCMCIA SCSI card in a 755CX with a HP1533A SCSI 4-mm DDS2 drive for backup. I have been using BakupWiz which seems to work well under Warp (I use both FAT and HPFS partitions on a 1.2 GB internal TP drive). I have also used the same software and tape drive with the Adaptech adapter and a 2.25 GB IBM SCSI HD (HPFS only) in a Dock II. Seems to work equally well. Stuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuart F. Biggar Phone: (520) 621-8168 Remote Sensing Group FAX: (520) 621-8292 Optical Sciences Center University of Arizona 1600 N. Country Club Rd, Ste 100 Tucson, AZ 85716-3160 Internet: Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 4 20:34:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11475; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:34:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25420; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 20:34:09 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 4 Nov 1995 20:32:15 -0500 Received: from shellx.best.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25219; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 20:32:09 -0500 From: Received: from 206.14.89.139 ([206.14.89.139]) by shellx.best.com (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA26879 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 01:32:06 GMT Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 01:32:06 GMT Message-Id: <199511050132.BAA26879@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FS: IBM 755CX Pentium ThinkPad, Dock II, extra memory To: TP750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Hello all, I need to sell the IBM 755CX Pentium ThinkPad I purchased new only 12 weeks ago. I realize most of you are familiar with the specifications of this unit, so the following is for those of you who are not: Forsale: IBM 755CX Pentium ThinkPad Notebook Also available (with purchase of my 755CX): IBM ThinkPad Dock II (Docking Station) Extra 16Mb Memory Card What is the 755CX ThinkPad? -------------------------- This is IBM's "flagship" Pentium Thinkpad with every bell and whistle you can imagine in a high-quality, compact machine. Use it as a desktop replacement or as a portable power-house. The high-resolution, high-color screen you have to see to believe and it will run for almost 3 hours on its replaceable Lithium-ion battery. This 755CX ThinkPad was bought brand-new about 12 weeks ago, is in perfect, virtually unused condition (not a mark on it), has an absolutely perfect active matrix color LCD screen (no bad pixels), and includes everything as shipped from IBM including the original shipping carton and packing material. This is the finest quality Pentium notebook available today at an excellent price. Special features: ----------------- * New Intel Pentium 75Mhz processor with 256KB L2 cache * New high-resolution (800x600) 10.4" diagonal LCD screen * Active "Black" Matrix display with 65,536 colors * New smart Lithium-ion battery * 810Mb removable hard-disk drive * 8Mb standard memory expandable to 40Mb * removable 3.5" 1.44Mb diskette drive * Integrated speakerphone, answering machine * High-speed 28.8kbps data/fax modem (software upgradeable) * MWave DSP 16-bit audio (software upgradeable) 32-voice high-quality MIDI synthesizer Sound-blaster support Stereo waveform record and playback Business audio (text-to-speech) * High-speed Infrared ports for wireless file transfer and printing * TrackPoint III pointing device / full-featured IBM keyboard * VESA local-bus graphics * PCMCIA slots of two Type II cards or one Type III * Three-year warranty * Complete set of IBM manuals and documentation * Software includes Windows95, OS/2 Warp, Windows 3.1, IBM DOS 7.0 * 15+ software packages included: Lotus Organizer Lotus ScreenCam AlphaNet FollowFax Sedona Systems Reprint Asymetrix Compel Personal Edition Lotus cc:Mail for IBM Global Network Prodigy America Online for Windows Reuters Money Network Taxi Puma TransXit (Infrared file management) SoftNet FaxWorks Voice Audiofile TalkWorks Monologue for Windows Microsoft Video for Windows 1.1 Runtime Triton CoSession Host IBM PC Card Director Diskette Factory Online User's Guide and introductory demo Latest BIOS and software drivers How much for all this? ---------------------- I bought this 755CX brand-new about 12 weeks ago for $6,700. (I can show you the original sales receipt), but will sell it "as-new" with full warranty and all original accessories for: $4,500 ~~~~~~ If you checkout how much this ThinkPad sells for today, don't be fooled by low (<$5,000) prices. IBM is selling cheaper versions of this Pentium notebook which DO NOT include the 800x600 high-resolution Black Matrix LCD screen, Lithium-ion battery, or MWave DSP (digital sound processor). This 755CX ThinkPad is fully-loaded. Other ThinkPad accessories available with purchase of my 755CX: --------------------------------------------------------------- Simple Technology - 16Mb memory card - $500 new (cost me $700). ~~~~ Add this memory card to increase the 755CX to 24Mb. Enough memory to run even the most sophisticated programs. IBM Dock II - $400 Brand-new in box (cost me $800+). ~~~~ The IBM Dock II is a desktop expansion unit which provides the 755CX with desktop functionality without sacrificing portability. It provides (2) ISA slots, (2) additional PCMCIA card slots, onboard Adaptec SCSI controller, room for CDROM drive, extra IDE drive, or tape backup. Use the ThinkPad as a desktop system when at home and easily undock to go on the road. The best of both worlds. Call me at 408-257-5383 daily from 10am-10pm if you're interested in owning the best Pentium notebook currently available and any of these powerful accessories. Or send email to sandy@sandy.com. My reasons for selling this beautiful new ThinkPad are personal, but my loss is your gain. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ _ ( @ @ ) _ | |------.oOOo--()--oOOo.--------| | | | Internet : sandy@sandy.com | | | |--------------- Oooo.---------| | | | .oooO ( ) | | | | ( ) ) / | | | | \ ( (_/ | | | | \_) | | | | |\ _,,,---,,_ | | | | zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_.. | | | | |,*< ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' | | | | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | | ^ Cupertino, California ^ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 5 11:35:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11452; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:35:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19532; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:34:47 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:31:16 -0500 Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19306; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:31:13 -0500 Received: from harp-08.synapse.net (harp-08.synapse.net [199.84.52.198]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA01967 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:31:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511051631.LAA01967@sentinel.synapse.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:35:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Help!!!! LAN Connections Reply-To: phong@phsmc.synapse.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Sorry if this is repetitive mail, but lately I've had some problems with my mail connections and I don't know if this message was properly sent to the list. Any help would be appreciated. ~~~~~~~~~~~ I would like some advice and / or hear of any experiences you have connecting your notebook to various networks. I have a Thinkpad 755CX running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 (yes, still) to remain compatible with my client. I have a 3Com Etherlink 3C589 PCMCIA network card and loading 3COM's Novell VLM drivers to connect to by client's Novell 3.12 network. My problem is that I want to connect to my P-90 computer at home to share the tape backup unit and CD-ROM drive. Most importantly, the tape back-up for obvious reasons. I have Windows for Workgroups running on the P-90 but have not installed the peer-to-peer network drivers since I don't know if this is the best way to go. One of my assoicates says the peer-to-peer services in WFWG is messy as it modifies my WIN.INI / SYSTEM.INI files and I may not be able to connect to my client's Novell server anymore. The bottom line is that I don't want messier INI files if I don't have to and would rather add another boot configuration that loads drivers outside of Windows. With this, I can isolate and manage my network configurations outside of Windows. I'm inching closer and closer to installing Lantastic on both my notebook and P-90 but would like to hear anyone's experiences on this matter. Being an independent consultant, I cannot risk any down time with my notebook and desparately need to back-up the hard drive. Thanks in advance... patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 5 13:33:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18911; Sun, 5 Nov 95 13:33:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25584; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:32:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:26:37 -0500 Received: from cs.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25242; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:26:35 -0500 Received: from jones.cs.brown.edu (jones.cs.brown.edu [128.148.38.144]) by cs.brown.edu (8.6.10/Bullwinkle1.1) with ESMTP id NAA18430 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:26:33 -0500 From: Sridhar Ramaswamy Received: (sr@localhost) by jones.cs.brown.edu (8.6.9/BrownCS1.0) id NAA00778 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:26:30 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:26:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199511051826.NAA00778@jones.cs.brown.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: linux on thinkpad 755cx Whew, I finally have linux running halfway decently on my thinkpad. (description of my long saga coming soon!) Most things are working fine (network, pcmcia support, dock ii recognition, X), thanks to the many fine hints that I have gotten on this list! I have a problem with the mwave modem, however. I run linux by booting off a dos floppy which goes through the 1. ps2 mode3x on; 2. mwgames on 3. mwmodem on routine before loading linux with loadlin. Everything is fine here, except that the modem doesn't seem to work. cu complains that /dev/modem (linked to /dev/cua1) is already in use. A look at the usual lock directories doesn't show anything (/var/spool/locks & /var/spool/uucp). I am stuck. Am I missing something obvious? Any and all hints will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, --Sridhar PS: I also just tried minicom (since cu is supposed to be buggy and it has the same problem). From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 5 14:37:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23304; Sun, 5 Nov 95 14:37:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29153; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 14:36:41 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 14:34:40 -0500 Received: from ix9.ix.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28944; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 14:34:37 -0500 Received: from ix-pa1-04.ix.netcom.com by ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id LAA02447; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:33:58 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:33:58 -0800 Message-Id: <199511051933.LAA02447@ix9.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: mhgross@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Gross Subject: Want to Trade 170 Drive Plus Cash for 340/540? Hello: I have an IBM 170MB Hard Drive in my Thinkpad 755 which I'd like to upgrade. Is anyone interested in trading my 170MB plus cash for a 340 or 540MB drive? Please advise and thanks, Michael From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 09:35:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09774; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:35:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13766; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:34:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:31:00 -0500 Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13427; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:30:57 -0500 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:30:25 +0100 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.951106152935.480; 06 Nov 95 15:30:24 -100 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen Organization: AORG.UIB.NO To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:32:30 MET Subject: The switch on the lid Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) I have a TP 750C and the tiny plastic switch that senses if the lid closes/opens are really too weak. I have now ruined no 4 ! , they just seem to fall off. Any solution ? Have IBM confessed the weakness ? Any experiences ? Thor yen jensen From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 11:24:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17872; Mon, 6 Nov 95 11:24:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23846; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:20:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:17:37 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23348; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:17:29 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa03719; 6 Nov 95 11:13 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (5.x/SMI-SVR4 (plus cnri and barry's mods)) id AA14407; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:12:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:12:50 -0500 From: Ken Manheimer Message-Id: <9511061612.AA14407@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Problems getting linux APM provisions (0.5) on thinkpad 701cs X-Mailer: VM 5.95 (beta) / Emacs 19.13 XEmacs Lucid Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Howdy. I'm hitting a wall applying stephen rothwell's apm patches for linux power management provisions on my thinkpad 701cs, and am wondering if any of you out there have any suggestions. (Those of you on the thinkpad mailing list not interested in linux will probably want to skip this message.) I'm working with 0.5 of his APM package, applying to 1.2.13 of the linux kernel within a Slackware 3.0 distribution. I'm getting undefined references to `_apm_bios_entry' when the kernel is linking - here's the relevant excerpt from the conclusion of the build process: ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x100000 -e startup_32 arch/i386/kernel/head.o init/main.o init/version.o \ arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o arch/i386/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o mm/mm.o fs/fs.o net/net.o ipc/ipc.o \ fs/filesystems.a \ drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/net/net.a drivers/scsi/scsi.a arch/i386/math-emu/math.a \ /usr/src/linuxelf-1.2.13/lib/lib.a -o vmlinux apm_bios.o(.text+0x2c): undefined reference to `_apm_bios_entry' apm_bios.o(.text+0x8e): undefined reference to `_apm_bios_entry' apm_bios.o(.text+0xea): undefined reference to `_apm_bios_entry' apm_bios.o(.text+0x143): undefined reference to `_apm_bios_entry' apm_bios.o(.text+0x1ba): undefined reference to `_apm_bios_entry' apm_bios.o(.text+0x75a): more undefined references to `_apm_bios_entry' follow make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 Unfortunately, i don't have the log of line where apm_bios.c was compiled, and have no more time this weekend to probe this. I did apply the kernel patch, and deposited the apm_bios.[hc] files in the specified places. There was a glitch applying the kernel patch - two rejected spots in arch/i386/kernel/head.S, which i reconciled manually. Assuming my reconciliation was correct, i've attached my stab at a rectified patch at the bottom of this message. I'd love to get this stuff working - i've got the thinkpad running unix, and on the net, and being able to unplug it and take it with me is very appealing, but the corruption that comes with suspend (any kind of suspend, even when going to the thinkpad easy-setup menus) is a real spoiler. ken manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us (703) 620-8990 x259 Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, VA 22091 Here's my attempted reconciliation of head.S: *** head.S Sun Nov 5 00:45:24 1995 --- head.S.orig Wed Aug 16 14:53:26 1995 *************** *** 10,16 **** .text - #include #include #include #include --- 10,15 ---- *************** *** 339,349 **** ALIGN .word 0 gdt_descr: ! #ifdef CONFIG_APM ! .word (11+2*NR_TASKS)*8-1 ! #else ! .word (8+2*NR_TASKS)*8-1 ! #endif .long 0xc0000000+SYMBOL_NAME(gdt) /* --- 338,344 ---- ALIGN .word 0 gdt_descr: ! .word (8+2*NR_TASKS)*8-1 .long 0xc0000000+SYMBOL_NAME(gdt) /* *************** *** 360,367 **** .quad 0x0000000000000000 /* not used */ .quad 0x0000000000000000 /* not used */ .fill 2*NR_TASKS,8,0 /* space for LDT's and TSS's etc */ - #ifdef CONFIG_APM - .quad 0x00c09a0000000000 /* APM CS code */ - .quad 0x00809a0000000000 /* APM CS 16 code (16 bit) */ - .quad 0x00c0920000000000 /* APM DS data */ - #endif --- 355,357 ---- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 12:06:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21075; Mon, 6 Nov 95 12:06:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28975; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 12:05:31 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 12:03:30 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28777; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 12:03:26 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa07032; 6 Nov 95 11:58 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (5.x/SMI-SVR4 (plus cnri and barry's mods)) id AA14519; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:57:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:57:54 -0500 From: Ken Manheimer Message-Id: <9511061657.AA14519@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup To: ThinkPad Mailing List Cc: schmidt@cranium.mae.cornell.edu, Stephen.Rothwell@pd.necisa.oz.au Subject: Re: Problems getting linux APM provisions (0.5) on thinkpad 701cs X-Mailer: VM 5.95 (beta) / Emacs 19.13 XEmacs Lucid In-Reply-To: <9511061630.AA00453@cranium> Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Petran Schmidt's response, follows, was the answer to my problem. Much thanks - i figured someone out there had encounted this, and it's very cool that these mailing lists and help groups give us (me!) access to the answers! Here's petran's response: From: Petran Schmidt Message-Id: <9511061630.AA00453@cranium> Subject: linux APM To: klm@CNRI.Reston.Va.US Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:30:23 -0500 (EST) I had a similar problem, and wrote Stephen Rothwell (the original APM author). Here's my message to him and his response (edited). > The code gave me a linker error for symbol "_apm_bios_entry" not found. I > found the string on line 106 of apm_bios.c, and figured that possibly the > first underscore was not necessary with my compiler and saw that the only > thing that I could find that this could be referencing is the variable > apm_bios_entry declared later in the same file: > > apm_bios.c:106: "lcall %%cs:_apm_bios_entry\n\t" \ > apm_bios.c:189:} apm_bios_entry; > > after changing line 106 to: > apm_bios.c:106: "lcall %%cs:apm_bios_entry\n\t" \ > > I compiled it and it compiled without errors. I thought that I'd see if you > had some insight into this before I load the kernel. I've been scanning the > newsgroups for a discussion of this, and haven't found any. Am I the only > person to experience this problem? Am I missing a compiler flag? This is caused because you are compiling the kernel in ELF which does not use the leading underscore on external symbol names. You have made the correct change, and it should work. Others have experieneced this problem. I suggest that you subscribe to the linux-apm mailing list at vger.rutgers.edu as further announcements/discussion will occur there. I have handed APM stuff over to Rik Faith (at least temporarily). He has made a version for the 1.3.x kernels and is attempting to get it into the kernel proper. ---------------------------------------------------------------- I hope that this is helpful. -Peter Schmidt From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 14:39:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00106; Mon, 6 Nov 95 14:39:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12227; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:33:54 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:25:56 -0500 Received: from sgigate.sgi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11090; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:25:39 -0500 Received: from palladium.corp.sgi.com by sgigate.sgi.com via ESMTP (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/940406.SGI) id LAA14533; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:25:29 -0800 Received: from gateway-1.wti.com by palladium.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/911001.SGI) id LAA27803; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:25:27 -0800 Received: by gateway-1.wti.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA17119; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 08:12:35 -0800 Received: from newt.alias.com(192.75.92.173) by gateway-1.wti.com via smap (V1.3) id sma017025; Mon Nov 6 07:16:55 1995 Received: by newt.alias.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA06871; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 10:16:17 -0500 From: "Eugene Fiume" Message-Id: <9511061016.ZM6869@newt.alias.com> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 10:16:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: Randal Whittle "Re: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not?" (Nov 3, 5:01pm) References: <199511032201.OAA27488@aludra.usc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Randal Whittle , tedf@cadence.com (Ted Frederick) Subject: Re: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not? Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Nevertheless, why not a secondary backlight? Could be turned on > in bright conditions for maximum readibility in sunlight, off for max > battery life (or just a brighter main backlight for everything--turn it up > in the sun, down indoors). ThinkPads are generally considered to have > screens that are not as bright as their competition's. If IBM and product reviewers don't know enough to turn their screens to maximum brightness under battery power, then that's their problem. As a graphics person who turns out the lights in his office to get better preceived dynamic range from top-of-the-line monitors, it's hard for me to believe that someone would by persuaded by commercials of real pertty people at the top of bright mountains that they can use their machines up there. I've tried to use various machines outside, but after running through hoops trying to make their screens visible, I decided there are better things to do in the sunshine. A while back someone mentioned that in a darkened room or on an darkened airplane, the screen can actually be to *bright*. I agree. Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 15:20:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05426; Mon, 6 Nov 95 15:20:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17082; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:17:54 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:16:25 -0500 Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16858; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:16:18 -0500 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@saturnus-1 [130.235.41.11]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id VAA19812; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 21:16:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199511062016.VAA19812@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: "John H. Kim" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, f91el@efd.lth.se Subject: Re: Speeding up mouse in OS/" 2... | ? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 02 Nov 1995 11:41:12 EST." Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 21:15:58 +0100 From: Erik Lindahl On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, John H. Kim wrote: >> On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Erik Lindahl wrote: >> [stuff deleted] >>>Heh heh. Might I suggest you change your editor? :) Actually, I would like to change the computer... It is a power Macintosh for $xxxx that the department of physics has decided on.. It's brand new, a feels slower than my old t'pad 750C... :-) Well, as long as they have some alphas too... (using one now, better?) Anyway, regarding the mouse driver: I tried rodent, but the computer hangs on boot when trying to load the driver. It might be fixpack 12 for OS/2 troubling... Anyone using the rodent driver with a thinkpad? Regardsm Erik From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 18:44:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20199; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:44:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07411; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:42:48 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:40:50 -0500 Received: from ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07213; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:40:47 -0500 Received: by ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA10828; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 23:40:40 GMT Message-Id: <199511062340.AA10828@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 95 00:34:31 EST From: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) Reply-To: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Alberto Enna's PMMail v1.1 Subject: TP755CD *** Battery life *** I wish to know from anyone with the TP755CD what is the own battery life. I've setted the custom battery option, and have a duration of 140-150 minutes for battery operations. Please, can you let me know what are your performances? Many thanks on advance. Bye by Alby/Warp 755CD From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 18:44:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20604; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:44:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07435; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:42:54 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:39:09 -0500 Received: from firewall.nec.com.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07040; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:39:00 -0500 Received: by firewall.nec.com.au; id KAA28277; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 10:38:41 +1100 Received: from pdact.sdc.nec.com.au(147.76.64.1) by firewall.nec.com.au via smap (g3.0.1) id sma028274; Tue, 7 Nov 95 10:38:22 +1100 Received: from pdact.sdc.nec.com.au by pdact.sdc.nec.com.au with ESMTP (8.7.1) id KAA28489; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 10:34:09 +1100 (AEDT) (from sfr@pdact.sdc.nec.com.au ) Message-Id: <199511062334.KAA28489@pdact.sdc.nec.com.au> To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Stephen.Rothwell@nec.com.au Reply-To: Stephen.Rothwell@nec.com.au Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List , schmidt@cranium.mae.cornell.edu Subject: Re: Problems getting linux APM provisions (0.5) on thinkpad 701cs In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 06 Nov 1995 11:57:54 -0500. <9511061657.AA14519@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Id: <28485.815700849.1@pdact.sdc.nec.com.au> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 10:34:09 +1100 Sender: sfr@nec.com.au Hi Ken, Ken Manheimer writes: > Petran Schmidt's response, follows, was the answer to my problem. > Much thanks - i figured someone out there had encounted this, and it's > very cool that these mailing lists and help groups give us (me!) > access to the answers! Glad you got your problem solved! This was me: > I suggest that you subscribe to the linux-apm mailing list at vger.rutgers.edu > as further announcements/discussion will occur there. This should be the linux-laptop list (I must have been asleep :-)). Cheers, Stephen -- Stephen Rothwell Stephen.Rothwell@nec.com.au NEC Information Systems Australia Phone: +61-6-2508747 Software Development Centre Fax: +61-6-2508746 Canberra, Australia From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 19:04:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21543; Mon, 6 Nov 95 19:04:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08600; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 19:03:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 19:02:20 -0500 Received: from alpha.xerox.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08519; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 19:02:17 -0500 Received: from algonquin.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.17.149]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <16668(7)>; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:58:22 PST X-Sender: mdixon@kanga.parc.xerox.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Mike Dixon Subject: driver for 755CD CD-ROM under win95? Message-Id: <95Nov6.155822pst."16668(7)"@alpha.xerox.com> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:58:22 PST IBM's notes about installing win95 on a thinkpad state that "Windows 95 comes with a generic ATAPI CD-ROM driver and it works with the ThinkPad integrated CD-ROM." it mentions a problem with the win95 setup failing to remove the old driver, but claims that if you disable the old driver by hand and reboot, the new driver will be automatically installed. has this worked for anyone else? if i remove the old driver from my config.sys/autoexec.bat files, it boots up without installing any new drivers, leaving the drive inaccessible. if i leave them in, everything works but the system control panel/performance window says my life would be better if i gave it shiny new 32-bit drivers instead of the crufty old 16 bit drivers it's currently using. if i try to install new drivers manually, the choices i get don't include anything very plausible (i'm offered drivers for Mitsumi, MKE Panasonic, or Sony). digging a little further, the win95/thinkpad notes later talk about a problem with win95 polling the cd-rom to see if a new disk has been inserted, and the workaround steps include 4. Click on "Device Manager" tab 5. Click "+" mark on "CD-ROM" 6. Double click "TEAC CD-40E" so i guess i need the driver for a TEAC CD-40E... but from where? there's none on the win95 cd-rom. i can't find one anywhere on the net. i'm trying TEAC's BBS, but losing because it's always busy... if you're running win95 on a 755CD, and you've got a 32-bit driver for your CD-ROM, please tell me where you got it from! .mike. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 7 14:58:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12311; Tue, 7 Nov 95 14:58:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13458; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:56:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:50:14 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12649; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:50:06 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 20:49:35 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: PCMCIA HDs To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 20:49:35 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I have an old TP720 and as with all old machines the 170MB HD is too small. Who is using a PCMCIA HD? They are quite expensive hence I don't know if they are worth the money. Thanks Christoph Eyrich ---------------- eyrich@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 7 14:58:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12316; Tue, 7 Nov 95 14:58:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13450; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:56:25 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:46:59 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12384; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:46:53 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 20:45:34 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Mail Order in the US To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 20:45:34 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I am about to order a TP755CX in the States. Has anyone made bad experiences with PCsCompleat? Thank you Christoph Eyrich ---------------- eyrich@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 7 17:26:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23522; Tue, 7 Nov 95 17:26:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29366; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:25:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:21:50 -0500 Received: from CRABAPPLE.SRV.CS.CMU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28816; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:21:42 -0500 Received: by CRABAPPLE.SRV.CS.CMU.EDU id aa11553; 7 Nov 95 17:19:38 EST Newsgroups: cmu.andrew.internet.computing.tp750 Path: magma!pbrown From: "Peter F. Brown" Subject: PCMCIA SCSI, 3Com 3C589C, NT & Thinkpad Message-Id: Sender: Usenet News System Nntp-Posting-Host: magma.edrc.cmu.edu Organization: Carnegie Mellon University X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:18:28 -0500 Lines: 16 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Does anyone have any experience with the above combination? I have a ThinkPad 755Cs, getting NT installed on it and I would like to have access to a SCSI card. My systems person suggested this card. Also how well do the connectors on these and othe PCMCIA cards hold up? Pete -- Peter F. Brown Email: pbrown@cmu.edu Engineering Design Research Center Phone: (412) 268-5226 Carnegie Mellon University Fax: (412) 268-5229 Hamburg Hall 1203 Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 7 17:53:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25260; Tue, 7 Nov 95 17:53:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02352; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:51:29 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:50:34 -0500 Received: from firewall.ceco.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02218; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:50:25 -0500 From: Received: from ceco.ceco.com ([130.197.8.140]) by firewall.ceco.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA29263 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 16:49:52 -0600 Received: from ccmail.ceco.com (ccmailout.ceco.com) by ceco.ceco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13097; Tue, 7 Nov 95 16:49:20 CST Received: from ccMail by ccmail.ceco.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA815784427; Tue, 07 Nov 95 16:40:36 CST Date: Tue, 07 Nov 95 16:40:36 CST Message-Id: <9510078157.AA815784427@ccmail.ceco.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Using Thinkpad modems in France and Greece Greetings! I'm new to this list. I'm a senior programmer/analyst in Chicago. I have a Thinkpad 701C I just purchased that I intend to use in Europe on a trip next week. Specifically Greece and France. I know this mailing list covers 75X machines, but I imagine the modem issues are similar. I'm not worried about power source. What concerns me is that the IBM manual "dissuades" use of the internal modem in foreign countries other than Canada. I have two questions really: 1) Can anyone confirm that I will be able to use the modem in Greece and France (assuming I find an adapter for the phone jack for Greece - I just bought one for France)? 2) I've contacted the Greece consulate here in Chicago and they tell me I should have no trouble with the phone jacks as they are in fact the same as in the USA. I find this hard to believe (but shouldn't they know?), so I was wondering if anyone on this list can actually corroborate this information. If I do need to buy an adapter would I be able to find one there? Thanks for any help you can provide. Dan -- Daniel A. Kirkdorffer | "Though the course may change sometimes Email: e#kirkd@ccmail.ceco.com | rivers always reach the sea." R. Plant DanKirkd@aol.com +----------------------------------------- WWW: http://users.aol.com/dankirkd/danhome.html From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 12:17:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15350; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:17:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01046; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:16:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:11:08 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00424; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:11:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id CAA16029; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 02:10:58 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma016022; Thu Nov 9 02:10:20 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id CAA24452; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 02:10:48 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id CAA29199; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 02:10:18 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id CAA03763; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 02:10:17 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 02:09:19 +0900 Message-Id: <9511081709.AA08895@shibuya.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: self-introduction Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Hi. Just joined the list, so thought I'd actually send a self-into like the welcome note asks. I have a 755CX with 24meg, and the other standard stuff (810m disk, 800x600, pentium). I run Linux (UNIXish OS), and also run the Japanese versions of IBM DOS 7.0 and Windows. I use a Panasonic "PD" for backup storage. Things I can be helpful with: Running Linux. Japanese stuff (if anyone cares) Things I'd like to ask about: It seems to change with the phase of the moon, but the thing gets into modes where the modem and other mwave stuff won't work after a suspend. It's currently in that mode )-: Things I'd like to get off my chest: Did they have a monkey design this thing? If not I'd like to know: * Why the earphone/mic/phone cover opens *up* so that it remains maximally in the way, and you can't see where you're plugging? * Why the phone plug has the release tab facing *up*, against the in-the-way door, so that one need's Olga Korbit's joints to unplug the phone? * Why the PC-card slot cover is designed to *require* a tool to remove? (I used some tape to make a little pull-tab) * Why the design encourages the power switch to be hit while the cover is closed? * Why there is no LCD "contrast" (or whatever) slider? * Why the keyboard "lock" is designed so that, say, someone checking out their new ThinkPad that doesn't know it's locked is still able to open it by using a bit of ummph. * Why the lid is designed to offer so little protection to the LCD when it's closed? (and why it costs $2,500 to replace the LCD when it breaks)-: Phew! I feel better. Having said all that, I love it. Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 14:27:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23624; Wed, 8 Nov 95 14:27:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11116; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:23:08 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:21:02 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10878; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:20:53 -0500 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA28152; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA08702; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:20:43 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511081920.LAA08702@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Using Thinkpad modems in France and Greece To: E#KIRKD@ccmail.ceco.com Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:20:43 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <9510078157.AA815784427@ccmail.ceco.com> from "E#KIRKD@ccmail.ceco.com" at Nov 7, 95 04:40:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I know this > mailing list covers 75X machines, but I imagine the modem issues are > similar. Speaking of which, as the owner of a 750C and soon-to-be owner of a 701, is there a separate mailing list for 701 owners or is there any "problem" with discussing 701 issues here on this list? I know some folks have had a problem with non 75X specific issues spoken of here (well, more like OS's). ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 14:51:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25391; Wed, 8 Nov 95 14:51:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14057; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:47:13 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:45:18 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13685; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:45:14 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id NAA29732 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:45:04 -0600 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:45:04 -0600 Message-Id: <199511081945.NAA29732@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: driver for 755CD CD-ROM under win95? At 03:58 PM 11/6/95 PST, you wrote: >IBM's notes about installing win95 on a thinkpad state that > "Windows 95 comes with a generic ATAPI CD-ROM driver and it works > with the ThinkPad integrated CD-ROM." > >it mentions a problem with the win95 setup failing to remove the old driver, >but claims that if you disable the old driver by hand and reboot, the new >driver will be automatically installed. > >has this worked for anyone else? if i remove the old driver from my >config.sys/autoexec.bat files, it boots up without installing any new >drivers, leaving the drive inaccessible. [snip] i do not have a 755CD, and do not if this is the problem or not, BUT i recall reading yesterday in the current PC Magazine that Microsoft Window 95 has a BUG in the ATAPI driver which made it all the way to the final release version! the article said that on new win95 CD-ROMS/floppies being stamped now have the bug fixed, but that folks who purchased win95 in the first couple weeks may have the buggy ATAPI. the article said to contact microsoft for a free ATAPI patch. (this was mentioned in the article on a review of win95 backup tape drives/software) hope this helps, Todd --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 15:08:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27266; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:08:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16200; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:06:21 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:59:11 -0500 Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15301; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:58:43 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA13705; Wed, 8 Nov 95 14:58:26 EST Message-Id: <9511081958.AA13705@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:14:01 +0100 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Admin: tp701 in group >> I know this >> mailing list covers 75X machines, but I imagine the modem issues are >> similar. > > Speaking of which, as the owner of a 750C and soon-to-be owner >of a 701, is there a separate mailing list for 701 owners or is there >any "problem" with discussing 701 issues here on this list? I know My first reaction to this is that the 701 is different enough to warrant a new group. Thinking about it a bit more though, I think the group should include all the thinkpads. Here's my reasoning. I see nothing in the new machines that would drive me to upgrade from my 750, particularly considering my bank balance. However, some of the biggest contributors to the group seem to buy at least one of the latest thing IBM puts out every time there is a new offering. As a person who consumes more information from this group than I contribute, it is well worth sorting through a little bit more irrelevant information to keep these people interested in the group. Pretty selfish, eh?:) Didn't we have a vote on this a while ago? ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 15:21:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27491; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:21:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17354; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:19:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:16:38 -0500 Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17144; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:16:35 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id PAA22239; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:16:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199511082016.PAA22239@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPad FAQ? (was Re: Admin: tp701 in group) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 08 Nov 1995 16:14:01 +0100." <9511081958.AA13705@gl.ciw.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 15:16:24 -0500 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu At one time I wanted to restrict the discussion to a small set of thinkpad models so that we would have higher signal-to-noise ratio and less confusion. But there have been several new ThinkPad models since then, and people's interests are less likely to be confined to one particular set of machines. Besides, ther eare other ways to avoid confusion than having separate lists for each class of ThinkPad. Would anyone like to work on a general ThinkPad FAQ that listed the various models and the differences between them? We could use that as a resource to help people keep things straight when discussing how to get something to work on a particular machine. If we had such an FAQ, a pan-ThinkPad group might be workable. Keith From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 16:03:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00307; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:03:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21138; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:59:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:56:16 -0500 Received: from firewall.ceco.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20767; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:56:12 -0500 From: Received: from ceco.ceco.com ([130.197.8.140]) by firewall.ceco.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA19204 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:55:38 -0600 Received: from ccmail.ceco.com (ccmailout.ceco.com) by ceco.ceco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26703; Wed, 8 Nov 95 14:55:03 CST Received: from ccMail by ccmail.ceco.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA815863874; Wed, 08 Nov 95 14:36:56 CST Date: Wed, 08 Nov 95 14:36:56 CST Message-Id: <9510088158.AA815863874@ccmail.ceco.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Organizing mailings Far from it to be my place to comment on much of this discussion being a new member of this list, but perhaps a simple convention can be used to organize the mail received. If we came up with a set of subject keywords we could more easily distinguish incoming mail. For example "701:" or "755:" or "75X:" as a starter to the subject. One benefit would be that mail systems that you can set up scripts on (for instance I use cc:Mail "rules") can be used to classify these. In cc:Mail it is easy to set up a rule that would automatically move these items into folders based on keywords. Just a thought. And thanks to those who answered my "modem in Greece" query. Dan -- Daniel A. Kirkdorffer | "Though the course may change sometimes Email: e#kirkd@ccmail.ceco.com | rivers always reach the sea." R. Plant DanKirkd@aol.com +----------------------------------------- WWW: http://users.aol.com/dankirkd/danhome.html From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 16:15:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03050; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:15:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22193; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:09:11 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:07:41 -0500 Received: from vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21937; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:07:27 -0500 Received: from vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us [164.106.215.200]) by vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA00645 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 17:56:51 -0500 Received: from SERVER1/MAILQ by vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (Mercury 1.21); 8 Nov 95 16:09:13 +1100 Received: from MAILQ by SERVER1 (Mercury 1.21); 8 Nov 95 16:08:38 +1100 From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:08:38 EST Subject: DataStor HD Bracket from Internet Shopper Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us X-Confirm-Reading-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <123737F7CB7@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> I just received the bracket someone else asked about on this list. It worked perfectly for me. When I first looked at it I was afraid it wouldn't work since it said it was for drives 350M and BELOW but it fit my 528M (Toshiba 25 something) just perfectly. What you get is a U shaped aluminum bracket with a flange on the end to support the IBM connector, just like the official IBM case. The outside of the bracket is finished in a textured off white paint and looks nice. It mounts over the top and down each side of the drive as viewed inside the computer. They even give you 4 really short screws to attach the drive to the bracket. All in all a good deal for just over half what everyone else wants for the same thing. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Engineer - Business Division - Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 18:36:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12861; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:36:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05931; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:34:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:29:32 -0500 Received: from vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05495; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:29:21 -0500 Received: from vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us [164.106.215.200]) by vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA01158 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:19:50 -0500 Received: from SERVER1/MAILQ by vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (Mercury 1.21); 8 Nov 95 18:31:40 +1100 Received: from MAILQ by SERVER1 (Mercury 1.21); 8 Nov 95 18:31:33 +1100 From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:31:27 EST Subject: Datastor Bracket further information Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us X-Confirm-Reading-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <125D5582C24@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> I had a couple of replies so I thought I would add this to my previous post about the datastor HD bracket. The bracket costs $53.16 if I remember correctly, plus shipping which was $3 dollars I think. I wasn't the original person that mentioned it, I just was the first, I guess, to buy one. You can get them from a web site called internet shopping network. I think the site is at www.internet.net but I won't swear to it. As far as the drive I have mounted in my bracket it is a Toshiba 528M drive. It was too thick for the original IBM drive case so it has just been in the computer loose with the cable from the original drive. Now, with this bracket, it fits perfectly. I don't remember the model number and a quick look in computer shopper didn't find it listed. I think I paid $370 several months ago for it and have been quite happy with it since I got it. Now that it has its own bracket I can put the original drive (170M) back together and use it too. Note: for people just wanting to replace their present drive Toshiba has a line of 12.7mm think drives, up t 810M, that will fit in the original IBM case. One ad in computer shopper had the 810 for $549 and the 540 for $349. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Engineer - Business Division - Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 9 06:16:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00385; Thu, 9 Nov 95 06:16:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04932; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 06:15:40 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 06:11:50 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04718; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 06:11:46 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:11:22 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: TP FAQ etc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:11:20 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Perhaps everyone knows already about this: recently IBM has issued a couple of INF-files with technical data about hardware etc. The one about TPs is ass-tp.zip in /pub/os2_util on ftp.pcco.ibm.com The newest models are not yet covered but hopefully the files will be updated regularly. Christoph Eyrich ---------------- eyrich@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 9 11:52:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24558; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:52:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04927; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:52:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:49:10 -0500 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04484; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:49:07 -0500 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 09 Nov 95 11:48:51 EST Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 9 Nov 95 11:52:14 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 9 Nov 95 11:51:57 EST From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:51:49 EST Subject: ?Info on TBA models esp. new 701? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: <19376864793@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> As a purchase is pending, I have heard from an IBM conference rep that a new 701 model is due hence the push for sales. (And there is a warehouse full of them.) I'll be purchasing several TP701's soon. Any recommendations. They will be used for desktop/laptop with port replicators including monitor, keyboard, and mouse. The 701's are for Direcors and VPs so I'd like to accomodate them properly. Guy W. Farrell Vox: (860)486-0964 My Desk Network Coordinator, Postmaster (860)486-5000 Front Desk The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 Toll-free U-Box 206 Fax: (860)486-1615 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 9 12:17:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25878; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:17:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06935; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:14:07 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:12:15 -0500 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06635; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:12:10 -0500 Received: from pm-mhc2-224.coastalnet.com by abaco.coastalnet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01932; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:11:15 EST Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:11:13 EST Message-Id: <9511091711.AA01932@abaco.coastalnet.com> X-Sender: cn2223@abaco.coastalnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: captqtrs@abaco.coastalnet.com (Capt Dick Collins) Subject: available list mail Cc: moore@cs.utk.edu Thanks for allowing us to join list group of tp750; and second mailing. We have dl the faq & 0608723.zip of past mail. All very good When & how do we obtain mail beyond the date of July 95.zip? Planning purchase of tp760cd & would like to benefit from reports of owners of this new unit, which became available 10-95. A sincere thanks for your help From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 9 14:22:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06671; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:22:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18268; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:19:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:16:29 -0500 Received: from space.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18062; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:16:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199511091916.OAA18062@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from breslau (B37AT6B-DYN-19.MIT.EDU) by space.mit.edu AA10419; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:16:12 EST X-Sender: breslau@space.mit.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 14:15:58 -0500 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: breslau@space.mit.edu (David Breslau) Subject: Help - Will Toshiba #1924-FCV work in 750C? X-Mailer: Hi, I'm hoping to upgrade my 170Mb drive to the 540Mb of the Toshiba. Peter Borders has mentioned that the 12.7mm x 2.5" drives will fit into the original IBM case, but I want to know if anyone has actually done this, and what problems they may have had. Thanks for the help. Brief bio - I've got a 750C that I bought about 1.5 years ago. I have a 8Meg RAM upgrade for 12Meg total, and I use the machine for CAD - CAM and word processing, using WfW 3.11. I'm planning on getting a 28.8 PC Card Fax/Modem, preferably one of the new ones that will pass voice through. On my wish list is a processor upgrade - fantasy? I remember that one of my prime reasons for getting the ThinkPad was IBM's advertising that there would be an upgrade path for these machines. Has anyone checked out third party notebook upgraders? David Breslau From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 9 16:54:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16432; Thu, 9 Nov 95 16:54:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03269; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:50:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:43:57 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02607; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:43:55 -0500 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA17727; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:43:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id NAA13679; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:43:37 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511092143.NAA13679@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: ?Info on TBA models esp. new 701? To: GFARRELL@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Guy Farrell) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:43:36 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <19376864793@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> from "Guy Farrell" at Nov 9, 95 11:51:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > As a purchase is pending, I have heard from an IBM conference rep that > a new 701 model is due hence the push for sales. (And there is a > warehouse full of them.) If they have a warehouse full of them, then why am I having to wait over 2 weeks before mine even ships? I think the push for sales is an accounting thing. Namely, they are going to end the series and replace it with a new model. Hence, even if they don't have a ton of them in a warehouse, they need to sell at least a certain number of them to cover their fixed costs of designing & manufacturing these things. Anyway, my guess is that they want to squeeze every last penny out of these things before they are discontinued and the decision was made to lower the price significantly & do these promotions. Margins are of course slimmer, but the fact of the matter is they'll sell a *lot* more machines than they would have otherwise (I'm proof of that--I would *never* have bought the 701 I have coming except for the good deal). ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 9 20:50:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03915; Thu, 9 Nov 95 20:50:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22792; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:48:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:45:44 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22426; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:45:41 -0500 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA01629; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:46:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:46:44 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: TP750 Subject: PORT REPLICATOR WARNING Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A week ago I forwarded to the list a message from someone selling port replicators for $35 each. Well, the guy was on the level - my 2 arrived today - but apparently was mistaken in identifying them. These are 700&720 replicators, totally useless with the 750 and up series. So if any of you ordered any, I'd advise you to just refuse delivery of the COD. I've mailed him and with luck he'll make good - he _did_ claim they were for the 75x series. Sorry to have pointed out a not-good deal to the list. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 10 19:09:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00146; Fri, 10 Nov 95 19:09:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01641; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:08:47 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:03:14 -0500 Received: from ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01292; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:03:11 -0500 Received: by ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA13089; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 00:03:05 GMT Message-Id: <199511110003.AA13089@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 95 01:00:06 EST From: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) Reply-To: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Alberto Enna's PMMail v1.1 Subject: TP755CD : CD-Audio features under OS/2 Warp Hi all! I'm in trouble with my TP755CD while playing musical CD's under OS/2 Warp. I can't hear music , and the only way to do it is setting Digital audio option from the menu settings of CD-ROM of Multimedia folder. I've installed MWave 2.0 , and my Thinkpad is a DX4-100 with 16Mb RAM. Can somebody tell me if there is a solution or a fix to apply ? Many thanks on advance. Bye by Alby/Warp 755CD From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 10 19:10:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00157; Fri, 10 Nov 95 19:10:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01645; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:08:48 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:03:31 -0500 Received: from ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01302; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:03:29 -0500 Received: by ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA14145; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 00:03:27 GMT Message-Id: <199511110003.AA14145@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 95 00:51:55 EST From: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) Reply-To: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Alberto Enna's PMMail v1.1 Subject: TP755CD : Battery duration I'm trying to restore the original capability of the NiMH battery pack of my 755CD (battery P/N 84G6440 - FRU # 851510). I read a very useful note about this procedure (under WWW.WARRIOR.COM , Notebook battery paragraph) , the main part of wich I forward here below: "Let the battery run down in the computer completely. Connect the AC adapter and fully charge the battery so the charge display reads "l 00%". With the AC adapter still connected, remove the battery for at least 30 seconds. Replace the battery and allow it to fully charge again" As I said before, I'm following this sort of TIP, and probably it's true... After the first charge/discharge cycle, I noticed a discrete increase of the battery duration, but still lower... I'm recharging again, and think to repeate it twice more, hoping to have a reasonable result. Largest amount of time I had experience on my battery is 2:30 hours, with the Power (fuel gauge) settings enabled for customized use. Can anyone with TP755CD give me notice about their power features? At least, I must say that I'm using mainly OS/2 Warp. Bye by Alby/Warp 755CD From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 12 14:20:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09756; Sun, 12 Nov 95 14:20:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11504; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 14:19:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 12 Nov 1995 14:11:55 -0500 Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11161; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 14:11:52 -0500 Received: by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA21836; Sun, 12 Nov 95 14:11:46 EST Message-Id: <9511121911.AA21836@gl.ciw.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 95 14:11:45 EST From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Reply-To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Victor Kress's PMMail v1.1 Subject: OS/2, PCMCIA and Hibernation In my last message, where I thanked Bob Cowles for cluing me in to the commands which allow one to switch between Lan-based and PPP-based connection without rebooting, I mentioned that my only remaining annoyance is that the PCMCIA cards had to be hot plugged to reset them after hibernation. Bob Cowles wrote back to me indicating that I shouldn't have this problem and suggesting some things to try. As it turns out, my problem is that I was still using Thinkpad Utilities Disk version 1.31. Since this time, IBM has split the PCMCIA section into a separate disk. My problem was not mentioned in the documentation for the upgrade. After confirming that I did not have one of the necessary files, Bob Cowles suggested that I download the upgrade (tppcm130.exe in the /mobiles directory at the ftp.pcco.ibm.com site). I installed this upgrade according to instructions, and the PCMCIA cards now re-initialize automaticly after hibernation. The lesson is that the IBM fix documentation is not necessarily complete. Thanks again to Bob Cowles. ________________________ Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, DC 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 13 06:35:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10584; Mon, 13 Nov 95 06:35:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA15811; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 06:29:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 06:24:50 -0500 Received: from estgtw.estec.esa.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA15480; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 06:24:47 -0500 Received: by estgtw.estec.esa.nl (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA26879; Mon, 13 Nov 95 12:24:37 +0100 Received: from 666.estec.esa.nl by bcops5.estec.esa.nl via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id MAA00550; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:39:01 -0800 Received: by 666.estec.esa.nl with Microsoft Mail id <01BAB1C2.9C08BCA0@666.estec.esa.nl>; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:21:50 +-100 Message-Id: <01BAB1C2.9C08BCA0@666.estec.esa.nl> From: "demon@bcops5.estec.esa.nl" To: "'Thinkpad'" Subject: Thinkpad 750c ref. Disks. Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:21:45 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi.=20 My name is Damon Randall and I work for the European Space Agency in = Holland. We have a fair number of thinkpads on site (mostly 720 & = 755ce/cd) I have just received a Thinkpad 750 from a user, the hdd has been = re-formatted and their are no drivers or thinkpad specific software on = the machine at all. Does anybody know where i can get a complete set of drivers suitable for = the Thinkpad 750c and/or reference disks ? Thanks in advance for any help received... Damon Randall =09 Email: demon@bcops5.estec.esa.nl ISD Projects Department ESA Estec Noordwijk The Netherlands From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 13 11:01:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27887; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:01:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07920; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 10:57:56 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 10:54:55 -0500 Received: from mail.core.ntt.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07557; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 10:54:50 -0500 Received: by mail.core.ntt.jp (8.6.12/COREMAIL.7); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 00:54:39 +0900 Received: by gulag.brl.ntt.jp (8.6.12/core*brl.mx14) with TCP; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 00:54:39 +0900 Received: by will.ntt.jp (4.1/core*brl.s7) with TCP; Tue, 14 Nov 95 00:54:38 JST Message-Id: <9511131554.AA21239@will.ntt.jp> To: Thinkpad Subject: Thinkpad 750c external display interlaced? Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 00:54:38 +0900 From: IWASAKI Yuzuru I'm using ThinkPad 750c with Warp connect. Usually I use external display at 1024x768x256 resolution. It seems the display driver came with Warp connect uses interlaced mode and the display flickeres. Is there any way or newer driver gives better feeling (non-interlaced/high refresh rate)? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 13 11:06:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28360; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:06:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08643; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:04:13 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:03:12 -0500 Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08492; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:03:07 -0500 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@saturnus-1 [130.235.41.11]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA22310; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 17:02:55 +0100 Message-Id: <199511131602.RAA22310@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: "demon@bcops5.estec.esa.nl" Cc: "'Thinkpad'" , f91el@efd.lth.se Subject: Re: Thinkpad 750c ref. Disks. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:21:45." <01BAB1C2.9C08BCA0@666.estec.esa.nl> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 17:02:52 +0100 From: Erik Lindahl Hi, You can get the english versions of all the reference disks at ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles I think that they are changing the name, so you might find it at ftp.pc.ibm.com in the future... It might be a good idea to try ftp.ibm.nl, too. I don't have the slightest idea it the site exists, or if it contains any tp-disks, but here in Sweden IBM has followed the example in the US and put their BBS on their ftp-site. The advantage is that I can get the Swedish version on this site. Otherwise I'm sure you can get the dutch versions via an IBM BBS somewhere (Amsterdam?). Regardsm Erik From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 13 14:00:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11217; Mon, 13 Nov 95 14:00:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24978; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 13:55:11 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 13:51:13 -0500 Received: from firewall.ceco.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24383; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 13:51:06 -0500 From: Received: from ceco.ceco.com ([130.197.8.140]) by firewall.ceco.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA25079 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:50:27 -0600 Received: from ccmail.ceco.com ([130.197.15.200]) by ceco.ceco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29713; Mon, 13 Nov 95 12:49:44 CST Received: from ccMail by ccmail.ceco.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA816288444; Mon, 13 Nov 95 12:45:21 CST Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 12:45:21 CST Message-Id: <9510138162.AA816288444@ccmail.ceco.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Should I worry about Xray machines when travelling Ok, probably a stupid question, but my 701C laptop manual says to stay away >from metal detectors. So what about airport Xray machines? Dan -- Daniel A. Kirkdorffer | "Though the course may change sometimes Email: e#kirkd@ccmail.ceco.com | rivers always reach the sea." R. Plant DanKirkd@aol.com +----------------------------------------- WWW: http://users.aol.com/dankirkd/danhome.html From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 13 14:56:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14998; Mon, 13 Nov 95 14:56:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02312; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 14:51:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 14:44:47 -0500 Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01414; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 14:44:45 -0500 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id LAA16507 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:44:36 -0800 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199511131944.LAA16507@mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 2776 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 06:46:33 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) To: breslau@space.mit.edu (David Breslau) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 06:46:30 +0000 Subject: Re: Help - Will Toshiba #1924-FCV work in 750C? Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 I have been using the Toshiba 1924FCV in my TP755C for some time now. The only thing to note is you should specify some power down time for the drive, otherwise, it will make a wierd clunking sound after each access. I think this drive uses more power and your battery life may suffer. > I'm hoping to upgrade my 170Mb drive to the 540Mb of > the Toshiba. Peter Borders has mentioned that the 12.7mm x > 2.5" drives will fit into the original IBM case, but I want to > know if anyone has actually done this, and what problems they > may have had. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 13 22:45:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17317; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:45:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10069; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:43:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:38:10 -0500 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09519; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:38:04 -0500 From: Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA16370 for TP750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:37:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:37:27 -0500 Message-Id: <951113223722_84253864@mail06.mail.aol.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu, NJJimB@aol.com Subject: Advice Concerning a Docking Station for Thinkpad 755CE Hello everyone! I'm a new member to the group. Hopefully, I'm not repeating a recently discussed topic. I just received an IBM Thinkpad 755CE PC from my employer and would like to purchase a 'docking station', so that I could use a full-sized keyboard, etc., when I'm at my desk. If there is someone that has info about how to approach such a buy, I would like to hear your advice. Best wishes to all and thank you in advance for your help. ****************************************************************************** ********************* Liebe alle! Ich stelle eine Frage: ich habe einen IBM Thinkpad Notebook Computer von meiner Firma, und ich moechte eine 'Docking Station' kaufen, so dass ich eine Tastatur u.s.w. in voller Groesse auf meinem Schreibtisch benuetzen kann. Wenn es jemanden gibt, der etwas ueber solch einem Kauf weiss, moechte ich Deinen Rat erfahren. Beste Wuensche und vielen Dank im voraus. Viele Gruesse Jim Bauer, Brigantine, NJ, USA njjimb@aol.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 01:27:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27253; Tue, 14 Nov 95 01:27:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21014; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 01:27:00 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 01:23:54 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20782; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 01:23:49 -0500 Received: from Thinkpad (ts38-7.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.100]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA33968 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:23:46 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:23:46 -0800 Message-Id: <199511140623.WAA33968@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: dpark@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Dennis Park Subject: Thinkpad Carrying Cases Just wanted to know where is the best (inexpensive) place to purchase carrying cases for the Thinkpad. I am particularly interested in the cases made specifically for the Thinkpad's by Port. The prices from IBM PC Direct seem rather high, $89 for the compact carrying case. Thanks, dpark@ucla.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 03:03:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00424; Tue, 14 Nov 95 03:03:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26778; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 03:01:57 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 02:59:17 -0500 Received: from chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26462; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 02:59:15 -0500 Received: (from steverod@localhost) by chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA14619 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 23:58:59 -0800 From: Steve Rodrigues Message-Id: <199511140758.XAA14619@chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: TP 701 Power Supplies - International Use To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 23:58:58 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone out there used a TP 701 - specifically the 701 - outside of the United States? In particular, have people used the US-standard 2-prong "travel" AC adapter outside of the States? It *looks* like it can handle it: 100-240V AC, 50-60Hz input. But I don't want to wind up with dead batteries and be 6000 miles and four weeks away from home. Also, does anyone else have and use the "worldwide AC adapter" for the 701? All the IBM literature says it is part number 85G6680 - but the physical thing that IBM gave me says "P/N 85G6670" - more terrifyingly, it has an output about 0.3A higher than what the 701 has. Anyone else seen this adapter and successfully use it? Thanks in advance, Steve -- Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 08:27:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23421; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:27:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24928; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 08:25:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 08:22:32 -0500 Received: from estgtw.estec.esa.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24578; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 08:22:30 -0500 Received: by estgtw.estec.esa.nl (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA29714; Tue, 14 Nov 95 14:22:27 +0100 Received: from 666.estec.esa.nl by bcops5.estec.esa.nl via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id OAA00783; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:33:26 -0800 Received: by 666.estec.esa.nl with Microsoft Mail id <01BAB29C.3DE0E0A0@666.estec.esa.nl>; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:19:42 +-100 Message-Id: <01BAB29C.3DE0E0A0@666.estec.esa.nl> From: "demon@bcops5.estec.esa.nl" To: "'Thinkpad'" Subject: 750C & IBM High Speed Modem... Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:19:32 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi.. Can anyone help with this; Trying to configure thinkpad 750c with IBM PCMCIA High Speed Modem (IBM = Model Number FC3635) Can someone tell me the correct card services software for use with the = thinkpad 750c. At the moment we have the pc card director version 3.00 with Dos card = services driver 2.21 and pcmcia card services rel. 2.10 When we use the EZPLAY program the software informs me that there are = both slot 1 & 2 are empty... This is happening with any pcmcia including = IBM Ethernet cards & 3com Etherlink3 cards as well... Can anybody help? Damon Randall Email: demon@bcops5.estec.esa.nl ISD Projects Department ESA / Estec=20 Noordwijk, The Netherlands. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 13:08:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13117; Tue, 14 Nov 95 13:08:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19771; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:05:02 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:01:07 -0500 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19525; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:01:05 -0500 Received: from [128.120.18.126] by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.6.12/UCD3.4) id KAA24446; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 10:00:51 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 10:00:51 -0800 X-Sender: sztarkin@peseta.ucdavis.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Dennis Park , tp750@cs.utk.edu From: bktarkington@ucdavis.edu (Brian K. Tarkington) Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases Dennis, When I looked at cases a couple of years ago, those made by Port were far superior to Targus or Kensington. That price doesn't seem out of line. However, you might try Port at 800-242-3133; they offered a discount to ThinkPad owners. Brian At 22:23 11/13/95, Dennis Park wrote: >Just wanted to know where is the best (inexpensive) place to purchase >carrying cases for the Thinkpad. I am particularly interested in the cases >made specifically for the Thinkpad's by Port. The prices from IBM PC Direct >seem rather high, $89 for the compact carrying case. > >Thanks, >dpark@ucla.edu _______________________ Brian K. Tarkington University of California at Davis bktarkington@ucdavis.edu 74033.2574@compuserve.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 13:19:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13931; Tue, 14 Nov 95 13:19:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20800; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:16:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:14:52 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20476; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:14:42 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA28155; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:14:07 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00663; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:13:50 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 10:13:48 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: "Dennis Park" Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit At 22:23 11/13/95, Dennis Park wrote: > Just wanted to know where is the best (inexpensive) place to > purchase carrying cases for the Thinkpad. I am particularly > interested in the cases made specifically for the Thinkpad's by > Port. The prices from IBM PC Direct seem rather high, $89 for the > compact carrying case. I have that case, and it is well worth the $89 IBM wants for it. Especially since you also get a little padded case for stuffing a second hard drive into. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 15:30:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23649; Tue, 14 Nov 95 15:30:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02132; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:29:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:23:55 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01281; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:23:30 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 14 Nov 95 21:23:12 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: (fwd) WWW: Linux Laptop Home Page To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:23:12 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text As some people plan to run Linux on their TP75X I thought it might be useful to forward this announcement. Those already running Linux will know this page anyway. As to TPs it seems to me that there is nothing new - it's just a new address. Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > > Announcement > ------------ > > The Linux Laptop Home Page > ========================== > > The new Linux Laptop Home Page is a collection of pointers to > internet resources of specific interest to those who want to run the Linux > operating system on their laptop or notebook computer. It is located at: > > http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ > > Some of the information indexed from this page includes documents > that detail the setup of Linux on IBM Thinkpads, Compaq Contura Aeros, NEC > Versas, Tadpole P1000s, and Texas Instruments TravelMate 4000Ms, links to > magazines and newsletters of interest to laptop users, information about > using PCMCIA devices in Linux, information about power management, video > chipsets and X, sound cards, and more. > > Questions, comments, or suggestions should be sent to the Linux > Laptop Home Page maintainer, Ken Harker, at kharker@cs.utexas.edu. > > - --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Kenneth E. Harker kharker@cs.utexas.edu > University of Texas at Austin > Department of the Computer Sciences Amateur call: N1PVB > Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 > Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/ > - --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 15:32:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24561; Tue, 14 Nov 95 15:32:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02124; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:29:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:23:04 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01233; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:23:00 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA01379; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:22:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:22:54 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701 prices Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just noticed a couple ads in the NY Times for the TP701C DX2/50 with 4MB RAM, 360MB hard drive, and active matrix color for $1900-$2000. I called one place and verified the price. This may be a better deal for some of you who are looking into the IBM friend-of-an-employee offer (701C DX4/75 with 8MB RAM, 360MB hard drive, active matrix color for $2600). Does anybody know how much faster the DX4/75 (16k onboard cache) is than the DX2/50 (8k onboard cache)? I'm guessing they're both 3.3V since it's supposed to be upgradable. Other than that and the amount of standard RAM (and maximum RAM), there's no difference between these two. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 15:46:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25221; Tue, 14 Nov 95 15:46:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03539; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:42:50 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:41:53 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03448; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:41:49 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA01448; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:41:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:41:53 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 prices In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > the DX2/50 (8k onboard cache)? I'm guessing they're both 3.3V since it's > supposed to be upgradable. Strike that. Not upgradable. I was confused. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 16:34:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28890; Tue, 14 Nov 95 16:34:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08043; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:31:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:28:49 -0500 Received: from CSD36.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07572; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:28:38 -0500 Received: by CSD36.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA13055; Tue, 14 Nov 95 16:29:27 EST Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 16:29:27 EST From: kedem@CSD36.CS.NYU.EDU (Zvi Meir Kedem) Message-Id: <9511142129.AA13055@CSD36.CS.NYU.EDU> To: bktarkington@ucdavis.edu Cc: dpark@ucla.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: (bktarkington@ucdavis.edu) Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases Reply-To: > > Dennis, > > When I looked at cases a couple of years ago, those made by Port were far > superior to Targus or Kensington. That price doesn't seem out of line. > However, you might try Port at 800-242-3133; they offered a discount to > ThinkPad owners. > > Brian > Port wanted MORE from me for their Thinkpad vs. non-Thinkpad case. The advantages of the Thinkpad case vs. non-Thinkpad were: a Thinkpad tag and a case for the battery. I got the non-Thinkpad version. In my opinion Port makes better cases than anybody else and I am very happy with my purchase. -- Zvi From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 18:38:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08323; Tue, 14 Nov 95 18:38:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18365; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:35:47 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:34:50 -0500 Received: from mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18173; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:34:48 -0500 From: Received: from in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA07135; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 17:36:32 -0600 Received: from ccMail by in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA816399324; Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:27:33 CST Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:27:33 CST Message-Id: <9510148163.AA816399324@in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux and the 701 sure I have read some messages from TP 701 owners running Li nux. Well, I have been trying to get the A series of slackware to install for over a week now. I nolonger know what to try. First, I CAN get the LILO boot, and the ROOT disk with setup on it (I believe it is color). [I have been usiing mount root=/dev/fd0 and it seems to work OK. some of the FAQ say stuff about using thinkpad?? I get the impression this is for the 2.88 driveson the 755s??] What I CAN NOT do is get the silly setup to see my A series. I first tried a floppy install a feww times. It didn't seem to like my taking the ROOT disk out. So then I thought I would use the install from Hard drive option, cannot find sourse disks for A is the type of error I get. So I decided to mount the hard drive by hand first then install from mounted drive. I CAN mount my DOS partition, like mount /dev/hda1 /dos -t msdos. I can see it, ls and cd around on it, including seeing my directories a1,a2,a3,a4, and a5. But back in setup, I set the source, and install product A, and it prepa res to install and says cannot find soucre disks for A. And there I am. I hope some one who has done this before would either tell me what I am missing, Or just tell me what you did to get it loaded. Kevan P. Riley Vanderbilt University Medical Center BioMedical Computing Support kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu PS. I have tried all sorts of directory names, putt all 5 disks of file in one directory, put the a1-a5 directories under different directories, including an directory called 'a'. Why can I see them with ls -l and setup can't?? PSS. I love this group! It is nice to hear what others are doing, buying, trying, with the same equipment I have. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 18:38:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08330; Tue, 14 Nov 95 18:38:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18276; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:35:19 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:32:22 -0500 Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18056; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:32:12 -0500 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12122; Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:32:01 CST Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:31:59 CST Message-Id: <9511142332.AA12122@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: josephw@inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases >Just wanted to know where is the best (inexpensive) place to purchase >carrying cases for the Thinkpad. I am particularly interested in the cases >made specifically for the Thinkpad's by Port. The prices from IBM PC Direct >seem rather high, $89 for the compact carrying case. > >Thanks, >dpark@ucla.edu IBM's ThinkPad cases are made by Port. While the price is rather high, they are of excellent quality. I have the same one of which you speak (sorry, don;t know exact part number, but it was the $89 one!). It holds the TP in a sling so it doesn't get bounced around as much as the cases that simply strap the laptop directly to the case. It has a lot of extra space (I carry a small folio, and many, many files/papers in addition to by power brick). I particularly like the very roomy exterior pocket. Finally, the materials seem to be of a higher grade than others I have seen. Nylon, zippers, hardware appears to be of a heavier type. I had a Compaq Contura case that was pretty well shot after about a year ( I am tough on my cases), the IBM/Port case looks virtually new after 2 months of rugged use. Good luck, Joe Wilson Badger Valve & Fitting Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 19:22:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11054; Tue, 14 Nov 95 19:22:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20927; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:20:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:19:39 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20783; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:19:32 -0500 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA25259 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:19:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id QAA21023 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:19:25 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511150019.QAA21023@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: TP 701 External Charger? To: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:19:25 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just curious--does anyone know if there is an external, stand-alone charging unit that charges the TP 701 batteries? I know such things existed for the 750 batteries, but I don't see anything available for the 701. Oh, and for what its worth, my 701 came yesterday. Pretty nifty-- and much more light (thank goodness). My only beef is there isn't a "real" parallel port on the damn thing--you have to connect a little adapter in order to connected a parallel cable to it. That's kinda dumb in my book... ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 21:48:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21892; Tue, 14 Nov 95 21:48:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01803; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:47:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:44:33 -0500 Received: from po7.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01520; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:44:30 -0500 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po7.andrew.cmu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id VAA22298 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:44:24 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix16.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix16.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:42:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:42:44 -0500 (EST) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: screen prob on 755cs hi, I'm having problems with my thinkpad 755Cs the bottom half of the screen has multicolor vertical parallel lines i thought about having it serviced. of course i don't have any papers for that "under warranty" stuff. would any place be able to fix it? or do i have to go to "authorized IBM dealer"? tia From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 22:27:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24490; Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:27:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04713; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:26:07 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:25:18 -0500 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04488; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:25:14 -0500 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HXNE4GN0UO0010L4@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:25:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:25:01 -0500 (EST) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Re: screen prob on 755cs In-Reply-To: Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <816405901.409767.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: > i thought about having it serviced. > of course i don't have any papers for that "under warranty" stuff. Yea, I was somewhat surprized when I called IBM for service and they said I would have to fax them a copy of the invoice proving ownership before they'd return the computer - wasn't required to get it fixed, just to get it back. Or of course one has the option of paying for the work instead.. although there's no way the three year warranty could even be close to gone. So, I explained the Thinkpad came from them, it was coming from and going back to the same place as on the original invoice and digging up the paper copy from months ago, not to mention then having to go run it through a fax machine, seemed like a real pain compared to having IBM check its own records, which they must be doing anyway as they would hopefully be verifying the faxed in data. The guy went away to ask someone if this was ok, and it was. The point being I'd try asking IBM first - the worst that can happen is they say no. They can also look up authorized dealers in your area. Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 22:32:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24709; Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:32:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05209; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:31:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:31:01 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05061; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:30:57 -0500 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA24991; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:31:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:31:57 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: TP750 Subject: Re: Help - Will Toshiba #1924-FCV work in 750C? In-Reply-To: <199511131944.LAA16507@mail.ucsd.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Nov 1995, Tom Franklin Tom Franklin wrote: > I have been using the Toshiba 1924FCV in my TP755C for some time now. Note to all - there is an FC model - no V! It is NOT slimline, but is instead 19mm - too high! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 22:34:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24738; Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:34:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05411; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:33:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:33:28 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05323; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:33:20 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id TAA13930; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:33:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:33:14 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: hello all ! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i just bought a 755cx and a dock station II and am trying like the dickens to set the thing up, but so far have had not had too much luck. i popped a second ide drive into the dock II ide cable and tried to get into the bios setting in order to attach it. holding down the F1 key on boot, i got a menu with a bunch of icons and a little flighty bird. the documentation did not help. i tried clicking on HDD-2 and it was added to one of the numbered squares, but upon restart, it still was not recognized. overall, i am miffed. where are all the numbers that a typical bios will show you in order to tune your machine ? like being able to disable shadowing of bios ram, disabling test of memory on reboot ? anything ? any help would be REALLY appreciated. doug From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 22:39:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25397; Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:39:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05793; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:38:09 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:37:39 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05727; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:37:36 -0500 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA25493; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:38:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:38:39 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: "Joseph C. Wilson" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases In-Reply-To: <9511142332.AA12122@inc.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I feel so low-tech. I keep my pad in my Wired messanger bag. No padding, no straps, no compartments. Lotsa other room for my papers, pens, magazines, cell phone, juggling balls, digital address book, checkbook, cigar cutter & lighter, condoms, eyeglasses, earplugs, sugar-free gum and little cassette-tape-rolling phone cord. I find the 'pad to be sufficiently sturdy that I don't feel like I need padding. Now, I don't check it when flying or drop it, but it _is_ in that bag _every_day_ and has been for the last 1.5 years. Course, I also painted mine, so perhaps I'm not the person to take advice >from .... From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 22:44:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25728; Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:44:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06229; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:43:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:43:29 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06167; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:43:26 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id TAA14908; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:43:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:43:20 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: Don Whiteside Cc: "Joseph C. Wilson" , tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > I feel so low-tech. I keep my pad in my Wired messanger bag. No padding, i cant imagine a hipper thing to use to lug the thinkpad around in :) doug From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 23:50:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28833; Tue, 14 Nov 95 23:50:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10972; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:49:29 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:47:36 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10858; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:47:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id NAA01704; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:46:58 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma001695; Wed Nov 15 13:46:44 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id NAA23036; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:47:13 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id NAA04956; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:46:42 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id NAA25157; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:46:39 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:44:59 +0900 Message-Id: <9511150444.AA16657@shibuya.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: billy@mix.com Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: billy@mix.com's message of Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:25:01 -0500 (EST) <816405901.409767.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Subject: Re: screen prob on 755cs Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> went away to ask someone if this was ok, and it was. The point |> being I'd try asking IBM first - the worst that can happen is they |> say no. They can also look up authorized dealers in your area. One while on a trip to The States, a few days before returning (to Japan), I opened my 755CX in horror to find a shattered LCD. I called the IBM Service number I found on their web page and explained my situation (leavig the country in a few days). There was some question about who would pay for the $2500 LCD (due to the circmustances, I thought it should be under warranty). I didn't have time to haggle much, so went with their 1-day express service. For $99 extra. They were supposed to pick it up in the morning, and have it back to me by the next afternoon. It got picked up at around 10:30 am. I was expecting a call from them in the afternoon, and by 5pm I was getting worried. But not long after, Fedex shows up with my (fixed) Thinkpad. I was stunned. I was still exepecting to discuss the warrenty with them once they were able to see it itself, and here it was fixed and returned free. I was in California. It had apparently gone right on a plane to Altlanta, LCD swapped, and right back onto a flight to Orange County. Obviously, I was/am very happy. One bad thing to say: IBM's maze of phone menus is frustrating. BTW, they never even charged me the $99. I'm still wondering if it'll show up on my credit-card bill (I authorized the charge, so would certainly not mind them taking it), but at this point I guess they just decided to give the royal treatment. Obviously, they have a customer for life. Jeffery ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 00:28:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00270; Wed, 15 Nov 95 00:28:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14277; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:28:05 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:27:23 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14180; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:27:21 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA02476; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:27:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:27:15 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 vs 755 graphics Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I found this on Ziff Davis' web site while looking for a comparison between DX2/50 and DX4/75 notebooks. To reiterate, the 701 uses a C&T 65545, while the 755s use the WD90C24A. Keep in mind the 701 has a 25MHz bus while a 755 w/ DX4/100 uses a 33MHz bus. What effect that has on video I don't know. Perhaps there's a hardware guru here who can answer this? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On our Graphics WinMark 95 tests, which measure graphics subsystem performance, we found that machines with C&T 65545 accelerators turned in the best results. The C&T 65545 is a 32-bit chip, so it can't match the speed of 64-bit chips found in fast desktops, but when paired with a fast CPU it still makes for a speedy graphics solution. Systems based on WD90C24A RocketChips took the second tier, coming in about 30 percent slower, on the average, than those using the C&T chips. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 01:28:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06543; Wed, 15 Nov 95 01:28:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18301; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:27:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:25:21 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18124; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:25:13 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA02698; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:25:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:25:07 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Don Whiteside Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Don Whiteside wrote: > I feel so low-tech. I keep my pad in my Wired messanger bag. No padding, > ... Now, I don't check it when flying or drop it, but it _is_ in Heck, I *have* dropped mine. Several times. Usually from the corner of my desk (~ 3 feet up) onto a hardwood floor. I keep getting my feet tangled in the power and ethernet cables, and when I get up to leave... :) It's a 750 mono. Has held up well so far (no cracks - yet). ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 08:33:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00031; Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:33:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22347; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:31:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:28:59 -0500 Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22039; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:28:57 -0500 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27115; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:29:07 +0500 Message-Id: <9511151329.AA27115@ globalvision.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:28:55 EST Reply-To: jloyless@globalvision.net Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases ** Reply to note from Don Whiteside 11/14/95 10:38pm -0500 The best thing I've found for carrying my TP and all my assorted junk is the Silicon Sports Backpack - $49.95 from Road Warrior. Jane cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 08:33:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00037; Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:33:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22351; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:31:46 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:29:11 -0500 Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22049; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:29:09 -0500 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27133; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:29:20 +0500 Message-Id: <9511151329.AA27133@ globalvision.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:29:08 EST Reply-To: jloyless@globalvision.net Subject: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem I have a brand new Megahertz 28.8 modem that I can't get to work in my TP755CE under Warp. I've disabled the MWave modem, and when I reboot, the TP knows there's a card in the slot. But it doesn't respond to any comm program - the message says the com2 port is not active. I tried the card in a TP750CS that had a working modem (not a Megahertz, though) and got the same message about the com2 port. Is there anything else I need to do before deciding the card itself is bad? Thanks. Jane From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 10:24:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08843; Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:24:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02886; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:22:58 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:22:21 -0500 Received: from BROWNVM.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02788; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:22:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199511151522.KAA02788@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3037; Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:21:05 EST Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin ST402711@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6216; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:21:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:17:04 EST From: Tim Johnson Subject: Re: screen prob on 755cs To: "Origin of LISTS.TP750" >> i thought about having it serviced. >> of course i don't have any papers for that "under warranty" stuff. >Yea, I was somewhat surprized when I called IBM for service and they >said I would have to fax them a copy of the invoice proving ownership >before they'd return the computer - wasn't required to get it fixed, For the record, I had my machine serviced by IBM just last month. They FedEx'ed me a pre-paid shipping container, I used it to FedEx them the machine, and they FedEx'ed it right back. No hassle, no mess, no faxing, no forms. (It came back in working condition, with updated BIOS ROM and one of those new trackpoint caps.) Just one person's experience. -Tim From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 11:29:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12729; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:29:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10416; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:27:37 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:24:57 -0500 Received: from firewall.ceco.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09992; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:24:54 -0500 From: Received: from ceco.ceco.com ([130.197.8.140]) by firewall.ceco.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA04397 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:24:21 -0600 Received: from ccmail.ceco.com ([130.197.15.200]) by ceco.ceco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18496; Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:23:47 CST Received: from ccMail by ccmail.ceco.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA816452483; Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:07:30 CST Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:07:30 CST Message-Id: <9510158164.AA816452483@ccmail.ceco.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701C: NiCd vs. NiMH batteries I don't know if anyone will be able to respond to this before I head off to Europe in 2 hours (I leave the office in 2 hours), but I'll try anyway: I just bought a NiMH battery for my 701C. The unit originally came with a NiCd battery. The NiCd battery life was about 2 hours. I'd heard that the NiMH was significantly longer lasting (from 3 to 4 hours). Two questions: 1) when I inserted the new battery the battery status came up as 0% and 0:00 time but it had a smiley face, yet I was able to use the battery for a good hour with no problem (although the status never changed). Is this normal? 2) I swapped batteries in and out for a while and finally was able to get a reading on the status on the NiMH battery, but it only read 2:25 at 100%. When I put the NiCd in it read 16% 0:20 which seem way below what it should have read given that the battery was freshly charged and very little used if any. Is that normal? So basically do these readings occur because I'm swapping batteries and the Thinkpad is confused or do I have a problem on my hands? As I said, if anyone has any ideas I'd *really* appreciate a response asap. Thanks!!!!! Dan -- Daniel A. Kirkdorffer | "Though the course may change sometimes Email: e#kirkd@ccmail.ceco.com | rivers always reach the sea." R. Plant DanKirkd@aol.com +----------------------------------------- WWW: http://users.aol.com/dankirkd/danhome.html From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 11:34:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12876; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:34:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11036; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:33:11 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:32:08 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10906; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:32:04 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id IAA16265; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:31:49 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma016245; Wed Nov 15 08:31:43 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id IAA12760; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:31:41 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:31:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199511151631.IAA12760@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Doug Fairclough From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: hello all ! Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Hi Doug, I'm assuming you plugged in the power supply to the drive as well... You may want to call IBM Tech Support at 1-800-772-2227. They are generally pretty capable WRT installation and configuration issues. They helped me debug a DockII - Removable IDE drive problem with my 755CDV. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 11:57:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14238; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:57:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12987; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:54:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:53:41 -0500 Received: from cs.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12888; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:53:38 -0500 Received: from jones.cs.brown.edu (jones.cs.brown.edu [128.148.38.144]) by cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/Bullwinkle1.1) with ESMTP id LAA11328; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:53:36 -0500 (EST) From: Sridhar Ramaswamy Received: (sr@localhost) by jones.cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/BrownCS1.0) id LAA07512; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:53:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:53:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511151653.LAA07512@jones.cs.brown.edu> To: kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux and the 701 I struggled with this problem for a long, long time. First off, make absolutely sure that your disk directories contain exactly the right files. I had a problem because the mirror site that I got my files from stupidly compressed *all* files, including the "maketag", "tagfile.org", etc. The slakware setup program doesn't like these files being compressed. Secondly, make absolutely sure that the files that you have are correct. I would suggest running "cksum" over the files and comparing with the CHECKSUM file that comes with the slackware distribution. For more than two days, I had this mysterious problem where I would mount an external hard disk to a linux machine, copy the alskware over to it, and then try to use this disk to install on my thinkpad. But the installation would fail in weird and sickening ways. It turned out that there was bug in the linux machine I was using. Because of some problem in the file system/ networking code in 1.1.55, the binary files that I ftp'ed over would be different from the original ones. (I checked this by ftp'ing the file to the linux machine, and then ftp'ing it back to my sparc and doing a binary diff on the file.) Hope this helps. Once I had the slakware source properly set up, everything else was a dream. --Sridhar From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 12:05:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14963; Wed, 15 Nov 95 12:05:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13867; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:03:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:03:13 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13774; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:03:10 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa13404; 15 Nov 95 12:01 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (5.x/SMI-SVR4 (plus cnri and barry's mods)) id AA00598; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:01:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:01:11 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Manheimer Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US To: kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux and the 701 In-Reply-To: <9510148163.AA816399324@in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu> Message-Id: X-Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [I'm cc'ing the list on this first response, in case anyone else is interested in this linux-on-701 discussion. However, i'd be glad to confine further followups of mine to just those people that express interest, if anyone on the general list would prefer *not* to see the ensuing discussion... Ken.] On Tue, 14 Nov 1995 kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu wrote: > sure I have read some messages from TP 701 owners running Li > nux. Well, I have been trying to get the A series of > slackware to install for over a week now. I nolonger know > what to try. I've gone through sorts of interesting permutations, playing with installing linux on my 701. (Started by using existing partition via umsdos install, and once i got that working, graduated to repartitioning so i could use a native ext2 fs. Still can't get lilo to work because OS/2 uses partitioning values not acceptable to lilo, but loadlin from the DOS partition is adequate, and fun...-) It's been a twisty road, but i'm not unhappy with the process, and the result is *great*. > First, I CAN get the LILO boot, and the ROOT disk with > setup on it (I believe it is color). [I have been usiing For my native-fs install i wound up having to use the slackware PCMCIA rootdisk, which has a line-oriented setup, so i could do an NFS install - slick - but i'm familiar with the umsdos rootdisk version, which has the screen-oriented color setup prog. > setup on it (I believe it is color). [I have been usiing > mount root=/dev/fd0 and it seems to work OK. some of the FAQ Did you establish that you *need* to use the 'mount root=/dev/fd0' statement?? This may be getting in the way, when you're trying to read the source dir for the a series. > mount root=/dev/fd0 and it seems to work OK. some of the FAQ > say stuff about using thinkpad?? I get the impression this > is for the 2.88 driveson the 755s??] What I CAN NOT do I did *not* have to do the 'ramdrive floppy=thinkpad' lilo directive, and in fact it sometimes got in the way. > is for the 2.88 driveson the 755s??] What I CAN NOT do > is get the silly setup to see my A series. I first tried a > floppy install a feww times. It didn't seem to like my > taking the ROOT disk out. So then I thought I would use That may well be due to the 'mount root=...' directive you gave. > for A is the type of error I get. So I decided to mount the > hard drive by hand first then install from mounted drive. I > CAN mount my DOS partition, like mount /dev/hda1 /dos -t > msdos. I can see it, ls and cd around on it, including > seeing my directories a1,a2,a3,a4, and a5. But back in > setup, I set the source, and install product A, and it prepa > res to install and says cannot find soucre disks for A. And > there I am. > [...] > PS. I have tried all sorts of directory names, putt all 5 > disks of file in one directory, put the a1-a5 directories > under different directories, including an directory called > 'a'. Why can I see them with ls -l and setup can't?? > You need to use the "already mounted directory" option, and then you need to be certain that you are specifying the right directory, which can be tricky, considering the multiple filesystems, etc. *And*, you need to *not* situtate the installation images in a directory named /linux. I used the directory /DOS/linstall, which contained a1, a2, etc (and i also did the n series, so i could use then bootstrap the net and do the rest with nfs). So i specified '/DOS/linstall' to setup, and it worked. And you need to trim out the 'mount root=...', if it is not definitely necessary. > PSS. I love this group! It is nice to hear what others are > doing, buying, trying, with the same equipment I have. Me too! But there is a problem - there's some unresolved controversy about whether it's ok to post about (1) non-75x-model thinkpads, and (2) minority os, like linux. (This is unfortunate, since this is also the only thinkpad mailing list that i've found, and likely to remain so since it fills the niche rather tidily.) In fact, there seems to be a schism there, because some of the introductory spiels acknowledge that the domain has expanded to all thinkpads, while some other spiels do not, and some people on the list seem happy to see traffic about experiences with various models, and some do *not* - hence a recent flurry or resignations, when the list got active, partly with traffic on "other" models and OS. Sigh. Anyway, keep plugging at the install, and let me know how it goes - i may recognize some problem, and have some info. ken manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us (703) 620-8990 x259 Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, VA 22091 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 12:06:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14979; Wed, 15 Nov 95 12:06:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13964; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:04:33 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:03:58 -0500 Received: from chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13868; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:03:56 -0500 Received: (from steverod@localhost) by chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA16885 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:03:52 -0800 From: Steve Rodrigues Message-Id: <199511151703.JAA16885@chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: TP 701 Power Supplies - International Use (fwd) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:03:51 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Rodrigues wrote: > Also, does anyone else have and use the "worldwide AC adapter" for the 701? > All the IBM literature says it is part number 85G6680 - but the physical > thing that IBM gave me says "P/N 85G6670" - more terrifyingly, it has an > output about 0.3A higher than what the 701 has. > Anyone else seen this adapter and successfully use it? IBM PC Direct swore up and down that this part was in fact the right one, and that the parts guys just liked to play with numbers (my words, not IBM's :). I plugged it in, and the machine didn't smoke - it actually charged quite nicely. FYI, if anyone else out there worries about frying their ThinkPad. Steve -- Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 12:54:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17880; Wed, 15 Nov 95 12:54:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02084; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:13:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:10:17 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01338; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:10:08 -0500 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) id HAA13211; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 07:10:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199511151510.HAA13211@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:13:44 EST From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: dwhite@shadow.net, tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases On Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:38:39 -0500 (EST) you wrote: > >I feel so low-tech. I keep my pad in my Wired messanger bag. No padding, >no straps, no compartments. Not a good idea. Here at the law school there are many many of us using notebooks of all types. Many folks learned the hard way via cracked screens, etc. that a padded case is essential for transporting one's notebook in even a moderately rough-and-tumble environment. The somewhat expensive IBM case with the patented strap-suspension system is well worth the cost, IMNSHO. ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 ----------------------------- AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail | "If you run with wolves, howl like them." Old English proverb From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 13:05:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19075; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:05:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19095; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:57:07 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:56:08 -0500 Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18920; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:56:04 -0500 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA13954 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:56:01 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA27926; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:31:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:31:10 -0500 (EST) From: aoster Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases In-Reply-To: <199511151510.HAA13211@chaph.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Roger J. Buffington wrote: > On Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:38:39 -0500 (EST) you wrote: > > >I feel so low-tech. I keep my pad in my Wired messanger bag. No padding, > >no straps, no compartments. > > Not a good idea. Here at the law school there are many many of us > using notebooks of all types. Many folks learned the hard way via > cracked screens, etc. that a padded case is essential for transporting > one's notebook in even a moderately rough-and-tumble environment. How wussy :) http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 13:06:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19080; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:06:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19073; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:56:57 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:54:46 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18639; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:54:44 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA04670; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:54:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:54:39 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 Replacement info? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been contemplating getting a TP701 but was worried that the speed increase wouldn't justify an upgrade from my 750. On inspiration, I visited MIT's computer store and test drove the 701C DX4/75 8/360 they had on display. I was not impressed. So... has anyone heard anything about IBM's replacement for the 701? Pointers to recent weekly or monthly magazines are fine. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 14:50:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00025; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:50:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01447; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:45:41 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:41:53 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00855; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:41:49 -0500 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA19289 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:41:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA16207 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:41:24 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511151941.LAA16207@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: "BlackMatrix" Screens outdoors To: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:41:23 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am happy to report to the list that although it is not particularly super outdoors, the so-called "BlackMatrix" screens are an *immense* improvement over the screen in my 750C, as far as outdoor viewing goes. In a direct comparison, both in direct sunlight and shaded outdoor light, the 750C was impossible to even *see* while the 701C was surprisingly readable. I'm quite satisfied. Now maybe I can actually go outside once in a while with this thing. ;-) ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 14:50:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00031; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:50:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01739; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:48:02 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:47:12 -0500 Received: from shrsys.hslc.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01608; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:47:06 -0500 Received: by shrsys.hslc.org (MX V4.1 AXP) id 285; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:47:03 EST Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:47:02 EST From: "Dennis J. Gormley" To: jloyless@globalvision.net Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu, gormley@shrsys.hslc.org Message-Id: <009996F1.B089116F.285@shrsys.hslc.org> Subject: RE: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem > From: MX%"jloyless@globalvision.net" 15-NOV-1995 08:29:56.28 > Subj: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem > I have a brand new Megahertz 28.8 modem that I can't get to work in my > TP755CE under Warp. I've disabled the MWave modem, and when I reboot, > the TP knows there's a card in the slot. But it doesn't respond to any > comm program - the message says the com2 port is not active. I tried > the card in a TP750CS that had a working modem (not a Megahertz, > though) and got the same message about the com2 port. Is there > anything else I need to do before deciding the card itself is bad? With our 755CE, I found that in addition to disabling the MWAVE, we also had to reconfigure the ports with the utilities DSP and SERIAL found in the ThinkPad Setup program group. Hope this helps! \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 14:58:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00142; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:58:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02418; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:52:25 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:51:05 -0500 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02258; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:50:59 -0500 Received: from pm-mhc2-16.coastalnet.com by abaco.coastalnet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06409; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:50:11 EST Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:50:10 EST Message-Id: <9511151950.AA06409@abaco.coastalnet.com> X-Sender: cn2223@abaco.coastalnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: captqtrs@abaco.coastalnet.com (Capt Dick Collins) Subject: available list mail Cc: moore@cs.utk.edu Thanks for allowing us to join list group of tp750; and second mailing. We have dl the faq & 0608723.zip of past mail. All very good When & how do we obtain mail beyond the date of July 95.zip? Planning purchase of tp760cd & would like to benefit from reports of owners of this new unit, which became available 10-95. A sincere thanks for your help From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 15:37:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07530; Wed, 15 Nov 95 15:37:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06535; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:34:37 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:33:43 -0500 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06431; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:33:38 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 15:33 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: kensey@wired.com Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:33:14 -0800 (PST) from Doug Fairclough Subject: hello all ! i popped a second ide drive into the dock II ide cable and tried to get into the bios setting in order to attach it. holding down the F1 key on boot, i got a menu with a bunch of icons and a little flighty bird. When I added a second IDE drive in my Dock II, it was not necessary to do anything with the BIOS. I just set the jumpers on the second disk to tell it that it's a slave, plug it in, and boot. It was recognized right away by all of the operating systems I use. The only thing I can think of that could have gone wrong for you is that the jumpers aren't set correctly. the documentation did not help. i tried clicking on HDD-2 and it was added to one of the numbered squares, but upon restart, it still was not recognized. The only thing that the numbered squares do is select the boot device search order. If you don't plan to boot from your second disk, there's no need to add it to this list. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 15:38:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07534; Wed, 15 Nov 95 15:38:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06406; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:32:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:27:56 -0500 Received: from shrsys.hslc.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05861; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:27:54 -0500 Received: by shrsys.hslc.org (MX V4.1 AXP) id 74; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:27:52 EST Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:27:51 EST From: "Dennis J. Gormley" To: "shrsys::gormley"@shrsys.hslc.org Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu, JLOYLESS@GLOBALVISION.NET, gormley@shrsys.hslc.org Message-Id: <009996F7.63F7EAF5.74@shrsys.hslc.org> Subject: RE: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem On the other hand (as I forgot to mention), we're running under Windows '95. When I reconfigured it we were running under PC-DOS v.whatever.came.on.the.thinkpad and Windows 3.11. I don't know how this woruld work under Warp. Maybe if you slowed to Impulse . . . . :) Dennis > From: SHRSYS::GORMLEY "Dennis J. Gormley" 15-NOV-1995 14:47:03.33 > Subj: RE: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem > > From: MX%"jloyless@globalvision.net" 15-NOV-1995 08:29:56.28 > > Subj: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem > > > I have a brand new Megahertz 28.8 modem that I can't get to work in my > > TP755CE under Warp. I've disabled the MWave modem, and when I reboot, > > the TP knows there's a card in the slot. But it doesn't respond to any > > comm program - the message says the com2 port is not active. I tried > > the card in a TP750CS that had a working modem (not a Megahertz, > > though) and got the same message about the com2 port. Is there > > anything else I need to do before deciding the card itself is bad? > > With our 755CE, I found that in addition to disabling the MWAVE, we also had to > reconfigure the ports with the utilities DSP and SERIAL found in the ThinkPad > Setup program group. > > Hope this helps! > > > \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 > \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 > \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org > \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 > H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 16:04:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19113; Wed, 15 Nov 95 16:04:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09737; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:02:01 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:59:38 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09314; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:59:35 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA05188; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:59:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:59:26 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: "BlackMatrix" Screens outdoors In-Reply-To: <199511151941.LAA16207@alcor.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > super outdoors, the so-called "BlackMatrix" screens are an *immense* > improvement over the screen in my 750C, as far as outdoor viewing goes. > > In a direct comparison, both in direct sunlight and shaded outdoor > light, the 750C was impossible to even *see* while the 701C was surprisingly > readable. I'm quite satisfied. Now maybe I can actually go outside once All the more surprising since as far as I know, the 701C *doesn't* use a black matrix screen. The 701 specs on IBM's web site don't mention the word, although it's prominently included in the specs of all the 75x models which use it. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 00:11:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00209; Thu, 16 Nov 95 00:11:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19219; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:09:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:06:52 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19117; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:06:47 -0500 Received: from ppp-jesse (webe-3.ppp.hooked.net [204.212.196.3]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA03366; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:04:01 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:04:01 -0800 Message-Id: <199511160504.VAA03366@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: , TP750@cs.utk.edu From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: Should I worry about Xray machines when travelling At 12:45 PM 11/13/95 CST, E#KIRKD@ccmail.ceco.com wrote: >Ok, probably a stupid question, but my 701C laptop manual says to stay away >from metal detectors. So what about airport Xray machines? Naw, don't worry about it. I was a little nervous about it, but I've sent my 755cs through many airport xray machines and metal detectors uneventfully. ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 01:02:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06413; Thu, 16 Nov 95 01:02:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22831; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 01:01:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 01:00:36 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22673; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 01:00:32 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id WAA03126; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:00:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:00:23 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: Chris Hanson Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: hello all ! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ah ! i didnt do the slave thing. but it was a fat drive anyhow (ie - would not fit into the thin slot on the front of the dock II). so i had to put it in the back area (lots of space), but the short ide cable didnt reach, so it was a pain to squirm it in, which i did, but i have subsequently pulled it out. no luck getting a SMC Elite 16 combo to slot into the dock station and get it recognized by windows 95. spent a lot of time configuring the elite 16 thru software, but the device manager would not recognize it. anyone get an ethernet card into the dock II and make it work ? doug On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Chris Hanson wrote: > Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:33:14 -0800 (PST) > From: Doug Fairclough > > i popped a second ide drive into the dock II ide cable and tried > to get into the bios setting in order to attach it. holding down > the F1 key on boot, i got a menu with a bunch of icons and a > little flighty bird. > > When I added a second IDE drive in my Dock II, it was not necessary to > do anything with the BIOS. I just set the jumpers on the second disk > to tell it that it's a slave, plug it in, and boot. It was recognized > right away by all of the operating systems I use. > > The only thing I can think of that could have gone wrong for you is > that the jumpers aren't set correctly. > > the documentation did not help. i tried clicking on HDD-2 and > it was added to one of the numbered squares, but upon restart, > it still was not recognized. > > The only thing that the numbered squares do is select the boot device > search order. If you don't plan to boot from your second disk, > there's no need to add it to this list. > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 03:34:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17749; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:34:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02775; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 03:27:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 03:23:29 -0500 Received: from vms1.cc.uop.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02431; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 03:23:22 -0500 Received: by vms1.cc.uop.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) id 2606; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:22:52 PST Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:22:42 PST From: JOHNNY Reply-To: ggomez@vms1.cc.uop.edu To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <00999742.1BFB4896.2606@vms1.cc.uop.edu> Subject: TP750 with DOCK I I just finished getting my Dock I back from IBM after the SCS ys.... New mail on node VMS1 from MX%"klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US" (00:14:41) was fri d to ask the other fellow TP owners w/ a Dock I about their experiences with th e decent drivers for the use of an external Hard drive and the current setup wi AD. (about 260 KB/sec :( ). If anyone could help, i appreciate it a bunch... t From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 03:44:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18028; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:44:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03672; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 03:37:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 03:36:49 -0500 Received: from vms1.cc.uop.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03464; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 03:36:43 -0500 Received: by vms1.cc.uop.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) id 214; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:35:45 PST Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:35:24 PST From: JOHNNY Reply-To: ggomez@vms1.cc.uop.edu To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <00999743.E1F5D9B6.214@vms1.cc.uop.edu> Subject: TP705 with DOCK I HI, I'm not too sure what ended up on that last message, so please excuse the garbage of that message. I screwed of OS/2 the TP trying to set up the Docking station w/ an external hard drive. Anyways... I was wondering if anyone has experience with the SCSI port on the DOCK I. The transfer rate i'm getting out of it even uder DOS is terribly slow (~260 KB/sec :( ). I download some driver that the IBM tech person said to get, but they don't work well. In order to get all 3 partitions to register under DOS/WIN i have to keep the drive off until DOS begins to boot (so i get those 2 error messages) and then turn the drive on. I get acsess to all 3 partitions, but at that slow transfer rate. Under OS/2 the transfer rate is about 670 KB/sec. I'd appreciate any info. I just got the DOCK back from IBM. Somehow i fried the I/O board and SCSI board along with the SCSI cable. Lucky it was all under warrenty :) . thanks -john From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 07:18:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00136; Thu, 16 Nov 95 07:18:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA22417; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 07:13:25 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 07:10:56 -0500 Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA22300; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 07:10:53 -0500 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 13:10:11 +0100 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.951116130946.384; 16 Nov 95 13:10:10 -100 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen Organization: AORG.UIB.NO To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 13:12:54 MET Subject: (Fwd) (Fwd) TP HD problems and solutions Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) I successfully upgraded my HD for TP750 with a standard kit from the local IBM dealer, to 540MB. (an IBM OEM disk made in UK) Two experiences: *The new case was rather shabby made, in sheet metal. The new disk had a rather annoying whining noise. I concluded that the sheet metal case amplified the sound and actually managed to swith the disk over to the old original plastic case. The sound almost disappeared !!!! The problem is that the 2 fixing screws are too short for the new disk in the old case. So: the connector is not fixed to the case and I should be very careful if I have to take it out. *With the new disk I succeeded in installing WFW 3.11 and the 32-bit file system (but not 32-bit disk access). I hade to get heltp from Microsoft because the installation program did all kinds of disastrous things and ruined both Windows version. I gad to bypass al lot of things in config to make it work. *One question: What is the correct setup for graphic driver in Windows for TP 750. Now it is VGA ver 3.0 and all the old things in the old Windows directory are gone. The display seems more sluggish, have I lost something ? (some VESA or 8514 or something ??) I like to have comments on the HD setup and installation, and som help on the graphic side Thor yen jensen From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 09:54:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11221; Thu, 16 Nov 95 09:54:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04815; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 09:49:14 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 09:46:26 -0500 Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04622; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 09:46:02 -0500 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-4.mail.demon.net id msg.aa20401; 16 Nov 95 14:42 GMT Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by relay-3.mail.demon.net id sg.aa06034; 16 Nov 95 14:41 GMT From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: steverod@cs.berkeley.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701 Power Supplies - International Use (fwd) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 95 13:46:33 GMT Message-Id: <9511161346.aa25755@hipass.filct.com> The previous adapter I had had 3 part nos. In the end, we figured out that one was the thing itself, one was the front label, and the other was the back label. I wouldn't be surprised if the part number itself had a part number :-) Mike From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 11:09:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15998; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:09:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11358; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:03:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:01:01 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11165; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:00:54 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA28049; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA13472; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:00:48 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511161600.IAA13472@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem To: gormley@shrsys.hslc.org (Dennis J. Gormley) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:00:47 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <009996F1.B089116F.285@shrsys.hslc.org> from "Dennis J. Gormley" at Nov 15, 95 02:47:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I have a brand new Megahertz 28.8 modem that I can't get to work in my > > TP755CE under Warp. I've disabled the MWave modem, and when I reboot, > > the TP knows there's a card in the slot. But it doesn't respond to any > > comm program - the message says the com2 port is not active. I tried > > the card in a TP750CS that had a working modem (not a Megahertz, > > though) and got the same message about the com2 port. Is there > > anything else I need to do before deciding the card itself is bad? > > With our 755CE, I found that in addition to disabling the MWAVE, we also had > reconfigure the ports with the utilities DSP and SERIAL found in the ThinkPad > Setup program group. What I don't understand is this: With a software upgrade, the MWAVE can do 28.8K--so why would you want to even use the Megahertz modem? I can see it if you wanted 28.8K and your internal only did 14.4... ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 11:17:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17062; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:17:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12381; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:10:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:09:18 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12031; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:09:12 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA28726; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA13992; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:09:05 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511161609.IAA13992@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: "BlackMatrix" Screens outdoors To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu (John H. Kim) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:09:04 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: from "John H. Kim" at Nov 15, 95 03:59:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > super outdoors, the so-called "BlackMatrix" screens are an *immense* > > improvement over the screen in my 750C, as far as outdoor viewing goes. > > > > In a direct comparison, both in direct sunlight and shaded outdoor > > light, the 750C was impossible to even *see* while the 701C was surprising > > readable. I'm quite satisfied. Now maybe I can actually go outside once > > All the more surprising since as far as I know, the 701C *doesn't* use > a black matrix screen. The 701 specs on IBM's web site don't mention > the word, although it's prominently included in the specs of all the > 75x models which use it. Actually, I verified that it did before I bought it. I can't remember the name, but you or someone else pointed me to an IBM'er that knew about these things/was involved in their creation or manufacture. Anyway, he said that since a particular date (sometime last summer) all 701C screens were made by a particular mfgr. (whose name escapes me--I think it was DTI or something). This same mfgr. is who makes the blackmatrix screens that go into some of the 755 models and it is/was the identical screen going into the 701C. Funny thing is, the 701 apparently can do better color depth because of a different video chipset used in it. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 12:31:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21967; Thu, 16 Nov 95 12:31:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19923; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:30:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:28:23 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19737; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:28:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id CAA11172; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 02:27:49 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma011168; Fri Nov 17 02:27:29 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id CAA18512; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 02:27:58 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id CAA15238; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 02:27:28 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id CAA20561; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 02:27:27 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Fri, 17 Nov 95 02:25:36 +0900 Message-Id: <9511161725.AA18374@shibuya.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu Cc: gormley@shrsys.hslc.org, TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Randal Whittle's message of Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:00:47 -0800 (PST) <199511161600.IAA13472@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Randal Whittle writes: |> What I don't understand is this: With a software upgrade, the |> MWAVE can do 28.8K--so why would you want to even use the Megahertz modem? I've not heard about this software upgrade. I have a 755CX with internal 14.4 mwave -- is it possible for me to upgrade? But, even if possible, I might not do it anyway. Connecting to my company (1km away), I found I'd get a dropped carrier some days not at all, and some days every three minutes or so. Since switching to a different modem (in this case, a Megahertz 14.14 PCMCIA), I've not had one single problem. The switch only happened recently, so I'd like to try it longer before pronouncing that I understand for sure, but at this point it's not looking good for the internal modem.... Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 14:38:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00623; Thu, 16 Nov 95 14:38:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29719; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:36:47 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:34:17 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29417; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:34:12 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id LAA06810; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:34:03 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma006765; Thu Nov 16 11:33:51 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id LAA20381; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:33:46 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:33:46 -0800 Message-Id: <199511161933.LAA20381@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu At 02:25 AM 11/17/95 +0900, you wrote: >Randal Whittle writes: >|> What I don't understand is this: With a software upgrade, the >|> MWAVE can do 28.8K--so why would you want to even use the Megahertz modem? > >I've not heard about this software upgrade. I have a 755CX with internal >14.4 mwave -- is it possible for me to upgrade? > There is a MWave 2.0 upgrade available at http://www.pc.ibm.com/files.html search for mwave200 -Ted From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 15:09:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06448; Thu, 16 Nov 95 15:09:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02995; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:07:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:05:35 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02717; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:05:31 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id MAA29497; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:04:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:04:42 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: NJJimB@aol.com Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu, NJJimB@aol.com Subject: Re: Advice Concerning a Docking Station for Thinkpad 755CE In-Reply-To: <951113223722_84253864@mail06.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i have had problems with my dock II. not saying you shouldnt get it, but it is not triv to plug and play with it. definitely get the cover that mounts on top of it as an option so you can put a monitor on it. if you just need to use a full sized keyboard, you dont need a docking station to do that. if you want to just have a bigger monitor, you dont need a docking station either. if you want to put a ethernet card in the isa adaptor, good fooking luck ! mixed bag. plus its so damn big a clunky. doug On Mon, 13 Nov 1995 NJJimB@aol.com wrote: > Hello everyone! > > I'm a new member to the group. Hopefully, I'm not repeating a recently > discussed topic. > I just received an IBM Thinkpad 755CE PC from my employer and would like to > purchase a 'docking station', so that I could use a full-sized keyboard, > etc., when I'm at my desk. If there is someone that has info about how to > approach such a buy, I would like to hear your advice. > > Best wishes to all and thank you in advance for your help. > > ****************************************************************************** > ********************* > > Liebe alle! > > Ich stelle eine Frage: ich habe einen IBM Thinkpad Notebook Computer von > meiner Firma, und ich moechte eine 'Docking Station' kaufen, so dass ich eine > Tastatur u.s.w. in voller Groesse auf meinem Schreibtisch benuetzen kann. > Wenn es jemanden gibt, der etwas ueber solch einem Kauf weiss, moechte ich > Deinen Rat erfahren. > > Beste Wuensche und vielen Dank im voraus. > > Viele Gruesse > Jim Bauer, Brigantine, NJ, USA > njjimb@aol.com > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 17:57:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21307; Thu, 16 Nov 95 17:57:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18865; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:52:48 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:45:54 -0500 Received: from tin by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18196; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:45:50 -0500 Received: from WOODS.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by tin (5.65/Monsanto1.7) id AA28858; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 16:45:07 -0600 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 16:45:07 -0600 Message-Id: <9511162245.AA28858@tin> From: snmauf@elm.monsanto.com (Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207) To: TIN"tp750@cs.utk.edu"@cs.utk.edu Subject: please add me to tp750 email list snmauf@maple.monsanto.com Thanks ! Simon ///************************************************************************** // /// Simon Maufe ||| MAUFE@TWEETY.DIGSYS.COM // /// Daugherty Systems ||| 314-432-8200 office // /// St Louis ||| 314-257-8018 home // /// ||| 314-694-3207 client office // /// All opinions and thoughts are mine and not those of my employer or client / /// Use anything in here at your own risk \\\ \\\************************************************************************** \\ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 19:16:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27287; Thu, 16 Nov 95 19:16:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24627; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:15:35 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:13:56 -0500 Received: from tin by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24413; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:13:54 -0500 Received: from WOODS.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by tin (5.65/Monsanto1.7) id AA04310; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 18:09:44 -0600 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 18:09:43 -0600 Message-Id: <9511170009.AA04310@tin> From: snmauf@elm.monsanto.com (Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207) To: TIN"tp750@cs.utk.edu"@cs.utk.edu Subject: VESA and modem/sound questions for TP755 CSE I have a thinkpad 755 CSE (dual scan) and really like it. Question : to run my favourite game, Flight Simulator 5.1, there seem to be 2 things I can't do. 1) Can VESA be upgraded to 1.2? It is currently 1.01 I think. FS needs VESA 1.2 to run in SVGA mode. Or it has a list of displace boards, and WSC904 or whatever isn't amongst them. 2) Has anybody succeeded in linking FS to somebody else's Thinkpad computer, ideally via NULL or the IR port. At the DOS how do you tell the COM1 port to go through the IR? A buddy and I have had TranXit working from Windows. Also, has anybody had any luck communicating from with fltsim with the mwave modem? Thanks ! Simon ///************************************************************************** // /// Simon Maufe ||| MAUFE@TWEETY.DIGSYS.COM // /// Daugherty Systems ||| 314-432-8200 office // /// St Louis ||| 314-257-8018 home // /// ||| 314-694-3207 client office // /// All opinions and thoughts are mine and not those of my employer or client / /// Use anything in here at your own risk \\\ \\\************************************************************************** \\ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 17 12:45:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22340; Fri, 17 Nov 95 12:45:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27197; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:44:01 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:37:44 -0500 Received: from sgigate.sgi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26711; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:37:39 -0500 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgigate.sgi.com via ESMTP (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/940406.SGI) id JAA13032; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 09:36:14 -0800 Received: from newt.alias.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/911001.SGI) id JAA22779; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 09:36:12 -0800 Received: by newt.alias.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA12500; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:35:17 -0500 From: "Eugene Fiume" Message-Id: <9511171235.ZM12498@newt.alias.com> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:35:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: Randal Whittle "Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem" (Nov 16, 11:00am) References: <199511161600.IAA13472@aludra.usc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Randal Whittle , gormley@shrsys.hslc.org (Dennis J. Gormley) Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 16, 11:00am, Randal Whittle wrote: > > What I don't understand is this: With a software upgrade, the > MWAVE can do 28.8K--so why would you want to even use the Megahertz modem? > Two good reasons I can think of: (1) Getting audio while being connected at 28.8K. (2) MWAVE support under Linux or other UNIX style OS's appears problematic at best. Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 17 15:33:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07968; Fri, 17 Nov 95 15:33:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13660; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:31:21 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:27:18 -0500 Received: from lotus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12902; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:27:16 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA16766; Fri, 17 Nov 95 15:43:21 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA21331; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:21:45 -0500 Message-Id: <9511172021.AA21331@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.02 Beta) id CDF5682D829FE4078525627700681640; Fri, 17 Nov 95 15:21:44 EST To: TP From: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Date: 17 Nov 95 13:59:21 EST Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > [Eugene Fiume] > Two good reasons I can think of: > (1) Getting audio while being connected at 28.8K. I thought the faster 2nd generation Mwave processor was fast enough for simulatenous sound and 28.8K operation? It definitely didn't work under the initial Mwave chip from IBM's first Mwave cards. Is this under OS/2 or Windows that you can't do both at once? ken From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 17 16:23:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11207; Fri, 17 Nov 95 16:23:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19107; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 16:20:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 17 Nov 1995 16:19:27 -0500 Received: from sgigate.sgi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18929; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 16:19:14 -0500 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgigate.sgi.com via ESMTP (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/940406.SGI) id NAA19359; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:05:59 -0800 Received: from newt.alias.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/911001.SGI) id MAA20640; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:49:31 -0800 Received: by newt.alias.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA13467; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:48:30 -0500 From: "Eugene Fiume" Message-Id: <9511171548.ZM13465@newt.alias.com> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:48:30 -0500 In-Reply-To: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus "Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem" (Nov 17, 1:59pm) References: <9511172021.AA21331@internet1.lotus.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus , TP Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 17, 1:59pm, Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus wrote: > > Two good reasons I can think of: > > (1) Getting audio while being connected at 28.8K. > I thought the faster 2nd generation Mwave processor > was fast enough for simulatenous sound and 28.8K operation? > It definitely didn't work under the initial Mwave chip from IBM's > first Mwave cards. > Is this under OS/2 or Windows that you can't do both at > once? I can't be definitive that it is impossible for audio and 28.8Kbaud connections to operate simultaneously. I can say that on my 755CE under Windows 3.1, anything I have tried (e.g., Netscape bound to PPP playing an audio file) that involves both sound and modem doesn't work. I personally would be amazed if the MWAVE chip has the DSP horsepower to do both simultaneously. Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 17 17:06:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14582; Fri, 17 Nov 95 17:06:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23084; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:04:48 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:02:44 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22975; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:02:41 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id RAA21086; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:00:27 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3165; Fri, 17 Nov 95 17:00:50 -0800 Message-Id: <9511180100.AA3165@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id ACD78678FFAE076685256277007815CD; Fri, 17 Nov 95 17:00:49 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 17 Nov 95 16:58:59 EDT Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....I can't be definitive that it is impossible for audio and 28.8Kbaud connections to operate simultaneously. I can say that on my 755CE under Windows 3.1, anything I have tried (e.g., Netscape bound to PPP playing an audio file) that involves both sound and modem doesn't work......" ~~~~~ not to kick a dead horse, but i can't do it on the 755CD either. at least it's nice enough to tell you specifically that you've overloaded the dsp, instead of just locking up. but, i've heard that it can be done, so i'm putting the task before my audio guru buddies over at vocaltec next week. if we have any luck, i'll be sure to pass it on. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 17 23:13:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15405; Fri, 17 Nov 95 23:13:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16764; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 23:12:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 17 Nov 1995 23:08:34 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16541; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 23:08:31 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA08663 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:08:24 +1100 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA25358; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:08:21 +1100 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:08:21 +1100 (EST) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: thinkpad backup solutions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII wondering if anyone can suggest a good backup solution for a thinkpad. i won't specify which because i would like something as generic as possible. the following is what i am looking for (and probably so is everyone else!): 1. portable: a) small and light b) power source, with most desired at top i. draws power from thinkpad (eg, keyboard/mouse port) ii. has small/light universal power adapter iii. adapters available for different countries (110/240/etc) 2. reasonable capacity (1GB+) 3. works with dos/win(3.11)/NT/linux/unix/mac 4. not too expensive suggestions welcomed and appreciated. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 01:32:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25198; Sat, 18 Nov 95 01:32:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25756; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 01:32:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 01:30:00 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25529; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 01:29:57 -0500 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA24192; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 22:29:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id WAA28655; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 22:29:48 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511180629.WAA28655@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions To: Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au (Alden S Klovdahl) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 22:29:48 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Alden S Klovdahl" at Nov 18, 95 03:08:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > wondering if anyone can suggest a good backup solution for a thinkpad. i > won't specify which because i would like something as generic as possible. > the following is what i am looking for (and probably so is everyone > else!): > > 1. portable: > a) small and light > b) power source, with most desired at top > i. draws power from thinkpad (eg, keyboard/mouse port) > ii. has small/light universal power adapter > iii. adapters available for different countries (110/240/etc) > 2. reasonable capacity (1GB+) > 3. works with dos/win(3.11)/NT/linux/unix/mac > 4. not too expensive I don't know that you can have both #3 and #4. ;-) Basically, if you want it to runn on any/all of the OS's you listed, then it has to be SCSI--I don't know of any other options. And if its SCSI and 1 GB+, I think you're talking about a DAT tape--pure and simple. I don't know that any of the SCSI QIC formats work on the Mac or Unix--I do know DAT works like it was made for everything. I have a DAT that does double-duty across platforms (Mac & PC) quite nicely. And Novaback for Win '95 (cheap at about $40) software works on NT as well. For the Mac, I recommend Retrospect by Dantz Development. I don't believe you'll be able to find a DAY drive that runs off the ThinkPad--in fact, you'll likely need to get a PCMCIA SCSI adapter or a parallel-port based SCSI adapter. The good news is that SCSI DAT drives have come down in price significantly over the last year or two. But you're still talking about $600 or more--perhaps more in the way of $700 or $800 since you'd need an external. But it works beautifully for me. I don't consider backup as an optional piece of equipment--its required. And SCSI DAT makes the most sense for flexibility across platforms and capacity. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 02:22:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29667; Sat, 18 Nov 95 02:22:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28503; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:21:35 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:20:42 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28418; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:20:39 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id CAA01686; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:20:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:20:34 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Alden S Klovdahl Cc: TP Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions In-Reply-To: <199511180629.WAA28655@alcor.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 17 Nov 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > Basically, if you want it to runn on any/all of the OS's you > listed, then it has to be SCSI--I don't know of any other options. > > And if its SCSI and 1 GB+, I think you're talking about > a DAT tape--pure and simple. I don't know that any of the SCSI Or if you already have a network card, you can backup over a network to a SCSI device. What I do is backup essential files to a quota-less account I have on another system. Then when the sysadmin of that system (a good friend of mine who knows what I'm doing) makes a backup, he backs up my stuff too. :) This way, you can backup to a SCSI DAT drive without having to buy a SCSI PCMCIA card. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 02:22:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29673; Sat, 18 Nov 95 02:22:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28588; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:22:14 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:21:43 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28498; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:21:32 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id QAA12366; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:16:21 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma012364; Sat Nov 18 16:15:57 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id QAA24409; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:16:27 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id QAA00935; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:15:56 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id QAA02603; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:15:52 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Sat, 18 Nov 95 16:15:50 +0900 Message-Id: <9511180715.AA00396@fiat500.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Alden S Klovdahl's message of Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:08:21 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Alden S Klovdahl writes: |> wondering if anyone can suggest a good backup solution for a thinkpad. i |> won't specify which because i would like something as generic as possible. |> the following is what i am looking for (and probably so is everyone |> else!): |> |> 1. portable: |> a) small and light |> b) power source, with most desired at top |> i. draws power from thinkpad (eg, keyboard/mouse port) |> ii. has small/light universal power adapter |> iii. adapters available for different countries (110/240/etc) |> 2. reasonable capacity (1GB+) |> 3. works with dos/win(3.11)/NT/linux/unix/mac |> 4. not too expensive You forgot: 5. also functions as a kitchen sink. 6. does windows. Seriously, though, it sounds like a tall order -- I'd guess that anything that fits those specs (at least 1-4 :-) would have to be tape-based. Personally, I wouldn't want to use tape except for backups that looked to be very long term (and I tend to use my backups often to check this or recover that). I use a Panasonic PD, which can read CD-ROMS, but can read/write CD-ROM-sized disks at CD-ROM speeds at 650 meg a pop. The problem WRT your specs is that it's not very portable -- you can carry it around, but it's clunky (mabye 2" tall, 7" wide, 14" deep). My brother uses a 1.2 gig MO drive, but I'm sure that's even bigger (and MO is apparently much slower than PD). I've seem pleanty of smaller (230meg) MO devices that would fill the rest of your parameters, though. Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 04:14:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07506; Sat, 18 Nov 95 04:14:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07066; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 04:14:05 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 04:11:41 -0500 Received: from tpone.telepac.pt by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06845; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 04:11:33 -0500 Received: from mail.telepac.pt (webpac.telepac.pt [194.65.3.34]) by tpone.telepac.pt (8.6.12/1.0) with ESMTP id KAA02517 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 10:10:03 GMT Received: from mccord.telepac.pt (alm1_p2.telepac.pt [194.65.16.66]) by mail.telepac.pt (8.6.12/0.0) with SMTP id KAA24840 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 10:09:28 GMT Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 10:09:28 GMT Message-Id: <199511181009.KAA24840@mail.telepac.pt> X-Sender: mccord@mail.telepac.pt X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: mccord@telepac.pt (Alan McCord) Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions Jeffrey Friedl wrote: >Personally, I wouldn't want to use tape except for backups that looked to >be very long term (and I tend to use my backups often to check this or >recover that). I use a Panasonic PD, which can read CD-ROMS, but can >read/write CD-ROM-sized disks at CD-ROM speeds at 650 meg a pop. The >problem WRT your specs is that it's not very portable -- you can carry it >around, but it's clunky (mabye 2" tall, 7" wide, 14" deep). Does the Panasonic PD have a SCSI interface and does it come with a PCMCIA SCSI card? If not, what card are you using with it? Are you running under Win95? Is there only one model (PD?) Thanks Alan //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ \\ Alan McCord // Q u a n t u m R e s e a r c h L i m i t e d // R. Galileu Correia 8-7A \\ 2800 Almada // PORTUGAL \\ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 09:01:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27484; Sat, 18 Nov 95 09:01:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29017; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 09:01:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 08:59:22 -0500 Received: from www.ezl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28837; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 08:59:20 -0500 Received: (from krisdw@localhost) by www.ezl.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA14022; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 08:03:52 -0600 Message-Id: <199511181403.IAA14022@www.ezl.com> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.03) To: TP750 Listserve From: "Kris D. Williams" Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 09:37:10 cST Reply-To: "Kris D. Williams" Subject: 755CV video drivers under Warp I just returned my 750C and got my 755CV in replacement. What a great little box. My students love the idea and watching it work with the MindPath remote. Biggest problem is that the Western Digital drivers for the video that I have installed suck big time. I see flickers on the screen and when I look at something like the Storyboard in Freelance, I see only black thumbnails with now graphics in them. Is anybody else having similar problems and has anybody come up with a remedy. ******************************************** * Kris D. Williams email: krisdw@ezl.com * ******************************************** From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 11:15:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06425; Sat, 18 Nov 95 11:15:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06485; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 11:14:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 11:12:41 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06247; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 11:12:36 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id BAA16088; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 01:07:25 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma016086; Sun Nov 19 01:07:24 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id BAA27125; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 01:07:54 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id BAA01750; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 01:07:23 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id BAA04060; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 01:07:22 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 01:07:20 +0900 Message-Id: <9511181607.AA00611@fiat500.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: mccord@telepac.pt Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Alan McCord's message of Sat, 18 Nov 1995 10:09:28 GMT <199511181009.KAA24840@mail.telepac.pt> Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> Does the Panasonic PD have a SCSI interface Yup (there is also a Mac-specific interface, I believe). |> and does it come with a PCMCIA SCSI card? Nope. |> If not, what card are you using with it? I bought an Adaptec SlimSCSI PCMCIA card to use with it. |> Are you running under Win95? Good Lord, no, I run a real operating system. However, due to a technicality (i.e. my employment), I am at times forced to run DOS/Windoze. Just boot with the included driver and you've got a 650 meg drive. Insert a disk and partition/format as you like. I'm not exactly sure the driver is needed -- perhaps only for DOS/Windoze. When I run Linux, the standard SCSI and filesystem drivers have no problem recognizing the drive, whether it has a CD-ROM, DOS, or native Linux filesystem. No speical drivers were needed. |> Is there only one model (PD?) As far as I've seen, only one (external) by Panasonic, although I hear that they simply OEM the guts of the other maker's drives (there are one or two other "competing" drives, one I saw for sure being a tad smaller). The one I got cost 110,000 yen, or about US$1,100. Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 13:11:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18049; Sat, 18 Nov 95 13:11:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12855; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:11:16 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:08:02 -0500 Received: from greece.elab.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12583; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:07:59 -0500 Received: (stevens@localhost) by greece.elab.columbia.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4.elab) id NAA09612; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:07:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:07:54 -0500 From: stevens@elab.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens) Message-Id: <199511181807.NAA09612@greece.elab.columbia.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions >wondering if anyone can suggest a good backup solution for a >thinkpad. I have tried two approaches: 1) I bought an ethernet card and backed up to my office UNIX box. The big problem was getting a good TCP/IP and NFS package for DOS/Windows. I never did find a satisfactory&cheap one (I tried shareware and IBM's package). The main drawback was that the backup was surprisingly slow, it took about an hour to xcopy my 170MB c: drive to the NFS-mounted drive on the UNIX box. I think it was mostly slowed down by the crappy TCP/IP software running under DOS. I probably should have bought some better software. Total cost: $130 for 3Com PCMCIA Ethernet board. I got the TCP/IP software for free (you can pay up to $400). Also, you need access to ample UNIX disk space and a friendly sysadmin. 2) I recently bought the IOmega 800MB Ditto external tape drive. It plugs into my parallel part. It works pretty fast, it takes about 30 minutes to back up my 170MB. It supports Win 3.1, Win 95, and OS/2. It's pretty portable too, it's a little bigger than my Panasonic CD-ROM drive. Cost: $150, plus cost of tapes ($30 for Travan 800MB tape, or $10 for 340MB 2120XL tape). I am very happy with the IOmega drive, how can you go wrong for $150? --andy From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 13:12:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18255; Sat, 18 Nov 95 13:12:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12921; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:11:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:11:06 -0500 Received: from greece.elab.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12820; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:11:04 -0500 Received: (stevens@localhost) by greece.elab.columbia.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4.elab) id NAA09615; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:10:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:10:56 -0500 From: stevens@elab.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens) Message-Id: <199511181810.NAA09615@greece.elab.columbia.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions >|> Is there only one model (PD?) > >As far as I've seen, only one (external) by Panasonic, although I hear that >they simply OEM the guts of the other maker's drives (there are one or two >other "competing" drives, one I saw for sure being a tad smaller). > >The one I got cost 110,000 yen, or about US$1,100. Street price in NYC for the Panasonic PD drive is $650 (J&R Computer World) for internal SCSI version. --andy From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 13:20:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18284; Sat, 18 Nov 95 13:20:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13407; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:20:06 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:19:01 -0500 Received: from panix2.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13321; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:18:58 -0500 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id NAA09073; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:18:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:18:50 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: 760cd delays Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? I ordered a 760cd from PC Direct two days after it went on sale. I was told at the time that I could expect delivery in 10 days. Since then, the delivery date has been pushed back twice, and is now December 11th. I expect it to be delayed until January when I check again next week. I went through this crap before when waiting for the 755cd; I ordered one in November 1994 and received it in mid-April. All I know is that my tolerance for IBM's lies and deceit is diminishing rapidly. Why can't they be honest with their customers? Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 14:43:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25579; Sat, 18 Nov 95 14:43:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18105; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:43:25 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:40:44 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17960; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:40:37 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA00185; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:40:39 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:40:38 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Michael MacDonald Cc: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: 760cd delays In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Michael MacDonald wrote: > I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? We've discussed this (emphasis on "cussed" :) several times in the past two years. One theory has to do with the consent decree IBM signed with the U.S. Justice Department. It prohibits them from pre-announcing products. This was in response to IBM's practice of announcing products which were nowhere near completion to discourage people from buying a competitor's product already on the market (a practice a certain software company today wields quite successfully). Anyways, the theory goes that since they can't pre-announce anything, they build a few computers, then announce and sell them before they've started mass-producing them. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 14:47:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25589; Sat, 18 Nov 95 14:47:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18439; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:46:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:46:10 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18370; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:46:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id EAA17280; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:45:56 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma017278; Sun Nov 19 04:45:45 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id EAA27783; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:46:14 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id EAA02059; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:45:43 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id EAA05268; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:45:42 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 04:45:41 +0900 Message-Id: <9511181945.AA00766@fiat500.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: stevens@elab.columbia.edu Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Andy Stevens's message of Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:10:56 -0500 <199511181810.NAA09615@greece.elab.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> >The one I got cost 110,000 yen, or about US$1,100. |> |> Street price in NYC for the Panasonic PD drive is $650 (J&R Computer |> World) for internal SCSI version. Tell me about it (although I quoted the price for the external, the internal one was still a lot more than $650). How much does media go for? The chepest I've seen it is about 4800 yen ~(US$48) per disk. Stores in Japan wanted about a million yen ($10,000) for a 755CX with 8/810meg. My boss had one shipped from The States for about $7k. We had to buy the Japanese DOS/Windoz extra, but still saved a lot. But then, I live in a country where a $4 apple and a $5 cup of coffee (no refills) are the norm. I recently got a juicer, and it takes about three carrots to make one glass. At my supermarket, carrots are three for $1.48. Well, at least that makes carrot juice cheaper than beer, which normally runs about $2.10 a can (in the store). This all being the case, $10k for a computer seems cheap! :-) Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 14:49:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25599; Sat, 18 Nov 95 14:49:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18549; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:49:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:48:41 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18474; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:48:35 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id EAA17300; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:48:26 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma017298; Sun Nov 19 04:48:02 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id EAA27800; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:48:31 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id EAA02063; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:48:00 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id EAA05289; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:47:59 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 04:47:58 +0900 Message-Id: <9511181947.AA00771@fiat500.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: macd@panix.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Michael MacDonald's message of Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:18:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: 760cd delays Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> I went through this crap before when waiting for the 755cd; I ordered one |> in November 1994 and received it in mid-April. Wow, me too. Sort of. I ordered it in early December, and cancled it when delayed for the umteenth time in January. At least their after-sales (if they make the sale) service is excellent. Jeffrey From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 14:57:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25884; Sat, 18 Nov 95 14:57:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19298; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:57:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:56:38 -0500 Received: from cln.etc.bc.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19207; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:56:34 -0500 Received: from sparky.etc.bc.ca by cln.etc.bc.ca for tp750@cs.utk.edu (4.1/1.39) id AA25504; Sat, 18 Nov 95 11:56:10 PST Received: from ppreside.cn.camriv.bc.ca (ppp214.dial.gov.bc.ca) by sparky.etc.bc.ca (4.1//ident-1.0) id AA12694; Sat, 18 Nov 95 11:53:24 PST Date: Sat, 18 Nov 95 11:53:16 PST Message-Id: <9511181953.AA12694@sparky.etc.bc.ca> X-Sender: ppreside@pop.etc.bc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Michael MacDonald From: Pat Presidente Subject: Re: 760cd delays Cc: Thinkpad mailing list I can certainly appreciate your frustration as I await my 755 CDV Pentium. I've now heard January after already waithing 2 months and am thinking of getting the Dx100 version instead. So the 760s aren't the only problem. Pat At 01:18 PM 95 11 18 -0500, Michael MacDonald wrote: >I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? >I ordered a 760cd from PC Direct two days after it went on sale. I was >told at the time that I could expect delivery in 10 days. Since then, the >delivery date has been pushed back twice, and is now December 11th. I >expect it to be delayed until January when I check again next week. > >I went through this crap before when waiting for the 755cd; I ordered one >in November 1994 and received it in mid-April. All I know is that my >tolerance for IBM's lies and deceit is diminishing rapidly. Why can't >they be honest with their customers? > >Michael MacDonald >macd@panix.com >mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu > > > > O _ | Pat Presidente | ======= | Technology Resource Teacher | |_-/_| | ppreside@cln.etc.bc.ca | P R E Z | SD 72 425 Pinecrest Rd | | | | 604-286-0651 Fx 286-9801 | ======= | Campbell River, B.C. V9W 3P2 | =======|"It's a half an inch of water and you think you're gonna drown"-JP | From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 15:36:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29414; Sat, 18 Nov 95 15:36:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21514; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:35:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:34:07 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21264; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:34:05 -0500 Received: from Thinkpad (ts37-2.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.79]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA09144 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 12:33:59 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 12:33:59 -0800 Message-Id: <199511182033.MAA09144@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: dpark@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Dennis Park Subject: Mwave for Win95 Just wanted to let everyone know that the Mwave drivers for Windows 95 is now available from IBM's BBS. The file is called: MW952101.EXE (MWAVE Windows 95 Drivers) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 16:54:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06432; Sat, 18 Nov 95 16:54:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25952; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:54:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:52:34 -0500 Received: from tin by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25775; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:52:31 -0500 Received: from WOODS.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by tin (5.65/Monsanto1.7) id AA07583; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:49:43 -0600 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:49:43 -0600 Message-Id: <9511182149.AA07583@tin> From: snmauf@elm.monsanto.com (Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207) To: TIN"tp750@cs.utk.edu"@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: 760cd delays Seems to me there is a pattern, if the earlier writers hypotheis can be shown (that IBM is bound by an antitrust ruling that says they can announce until they start selling the item) then start writing letters to the US Justice Department. If enough owners do that, then I would hope the government would take notice and force the practice to stop. Simon From: TIN::"owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu" 18-NOV-1995 14:04:22.92 To: Michael MacDonald CC: Thinkpad mailing list Subj: Re: 760cd delays I can certainly appreciate your frustration as I await my 755 CDV Pentium. I've now heard January after already waithing 2 months and am thinking of getting the Dx100 version instead. So the 760s aren't the only problem. Pat At 01:18 PM 95 11 18 -0500, Michael MacDonald wrote: >I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? >I ordered a 760cd from PC Direct two days after it went on sale. I was >told at the time that I could expect delivery in 10 days. Since then, the >delivery date has been pushed back twice, and is now December 11th. I >expect it to be delayed until January when I check again next week. > >I went through this crap before when waiting for the 755cd; I ordered one >in November 1994 and received it in mid-April. All I know is that my >tolerance for IBM's lies and deceit is diminishing rapidly. Why can't >they be honest with their customers? > >Michael MacDonald >macd@panix.com >mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu > > > > O _ | Pat Presidente | ======= | Technology Resource Teacher | |_-/_| | ppreside@cln.etc.bc.ca | P R E Z | SD 72 425 Pinecrest Rd | | | | 604-286-0651 Fx 286-9801 | ======= | Campbell River, B.C. V9W 3P2 | =======|"It's a half an inch of water and you think you're gonna drown"-JP | From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 18:28:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12972; Sat, 18 Nov 95 18:28:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01341; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:28:29 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:26:30 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01104; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:26:28 -0500 Received: (from news@localhost) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA17220; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:26:22 -0500 To: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Path: news From: Wai-Shan Lam Newsgroups: brown.lists.tp750 Subject: Re: 760cd delays Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:25:50 -0500 Organization: Brown University Lines: 9 Message-Id: <30AE6B7E.251B@Brown.edu> References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bootp-30w.andrews.brown.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) I have a feeling you will get yours soon. People on CompuServe TP forum who ordered from PC Direct have begun to receive theeir units! I ordered mine BEFORE it was announced from PCs Compleat and they still don't have a shipt date! Consider yourself lucky. From: ________________________ _______________________ Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.Edu Brown University Box 3691 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com Providence RI 02912--3691 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 00:27:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04337; Sun, 19 Nov 95 00:27:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21229; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:26:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:22:11 -0500 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20924; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:22:08 -0500 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com ([156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA00326; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:20:01 -0800 Received: (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id VAA25788; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:14:06 -0800 Received: from cc:Mail by espmail.email.com id AA816755618 Sat, 18 Nov 95 20:33:38 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 95 20:33:38 From: "Joe.Bormel" Encoding: 799 Text Message-Id: <9510188167.AA816755618@espmail.email.com> To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: TP755Cx and any PCMCIA modem Randal Whittle writes: |> What I don't understand is this: With a software upgrade, the |> MWAVE can do 28.8K--so why would you want to even use the Megahertz modem? I routinely connect up my MWAVE DSP to my home voice line and my Megahertz PCMCIA card to my data/fax number. That way, I can easily check my voice mail thru an automated FAXWORKs dial sequence while connecting to the company data network via my megahertz modem on the second line. Very practical when working in the home office where heavy voice and data phone activity is common. BTW, win95 does not seem to be able to use my MWAVE for faxing. I do have the mwave 28.8 software upgrade. I always use the megahertz to complete my faxing functionality not present in the MWAVE. -Joe From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 00:35:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06407; Sun, 19 Nov 95 00:35:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21581; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:35:07 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:34:14 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21488; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:34:12 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA21324; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:34:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id VAA09947; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:34:07 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511190534.VAA09947@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions To: mccord@telepac.pt (Alan McCord) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:34:06 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <199511181009.KAA24840@mail.telepac.pt> from "Alan McCord" at Nov 18, 95 10:09:28 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Jeffrey Friedl wrote: > >Personally, I wouldn't want to use tape except for backups that looked to > >be very long term (and I tend to use my backups often to check this or > >recover that). I use a Panasonic PD, which can read CD-ROMS, but can > >read/write CD-ROM-sized disks at CD-ROM speeds at 650 meg a pop. The > >problem WRT your specs is that it's not very portable -- you can carry it > >around, but it's clunky (mabye 2" tall, 7" wide, 14" deep). > > Does the Panasonic PD have a SCSI interface and does it come with a PCMCIA > SCSI card? If not, what card are you using with it? Are you running under > Win95? > > Is there only one model (PD?) Actually, I'd be interested in just the CD-ROM drive from that Panasonic package--not the interface, as I already have an Adaptec card. Does anyone know if they'll sell it separably? > //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ > \\ Alan McCord > // Q u a n t u m R e s e a r c h L i m i t e d > // R. Galileu Correia 8-7A > \\ 2800 Almada > // PORTUGAL > \\ > > ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 00:50:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07509; Sun, 19 Nov 95 00:50:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22090; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:49:40 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:49:04 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22028; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:49:01 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA22370; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id VAA10963; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:48:57 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511190548.VAA10963@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 755CV video drivers under Warp To: krisdw@ezl.com Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:48:56 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <199511181403.IAA14022@www.ezl.com> from "Kris D. Williams" at Nov 18, 95 09:37:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I just returned my 750C and got my 755CV in replacement. What a great How did you manage to score like that? > little box. My students love the idea and watching it work with the > MindPath remote. Biggest problem is that the Western Digital drivers > for the video that I have installed suck big time. I see flickers on > the screen and when I look at something like the Storyboard in > Freelance, I see only black thumbnails with now graphics in them. Is > anybody else having similar problems and has anybody come up with a > remedy. > > ******************************************** > * Kris D. Williams email: krisdw@ezl.com * > ******************************************** > > ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 02:27:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12417; Sun, 19 Nov 95 02:27:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25471; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 02:27:00 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 02:25:04 -0500 Received: from earth.usa.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25312; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 02:25:00 -0500 Received: (from crumrine@localhost) by earth.usa.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id AAA12375; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:22:35 -0700 Reply-To: "Mike Crumrine/C@C Computer and Consulting Services Inc" Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:22:34 -0700 (MST) From: "Mike Crumrine/C@C Computer and Consulting Services Inc" X-Sender: crumrine@earth To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Cc: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: 760cd delays In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Michael MacDonald wrote: > I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? > I ordered a 760cd from PC Direct two days after it went on sale. I was > told at the time that I could expect delivery in 10 days. Since then, the > delivery date has been pushed back twice, and is now December 11th. I > expect it to be delayed until January when I check again next week. > They are now quoting late january for delivery. The company I work at has ten on order, but just received two because they pushed REALLY hard, so they could do testing and such. Nice machine, 95 load not available until Jan. Upgrading win 3.1 to 95 was pretty ok, almost everything working now. One thing is curious, turn it off and watch the battery go from 100% to 0% in about 3-4 hours. Not sure why, these are some of the things they are testing for. BTW: just saw the latest bond flick and noticed an obvious ibm laptop (among several ibm advertisements). Couldn't tell which one though. mike (who can't wait to get his personal one :-) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 04:51:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21263; Sun, 19 Nov 95 04:51:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03289; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:51:02 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:47:44 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03118; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:47:35 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id BAA20443; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 01:47:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 01:47:23 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: Michael MacDonald Cc: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: 760cd delays In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII all the vendors do this. it's standard fare. what you do is call some local resellers, and say, 'i want a 760cd', and they will tell you that they have not been shipped, and what the 'current' approx ship date is. so, wait until resellers have it on the shelves before you putin your order. doug On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Michael MacDonald wrote: > I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? > I ordered a 760cd from PC Direct two days after it went on sale. I was > told at the time that I could expect delivery in 10 days. Since then, the > delivery date has been pushed back twice, and is now December 11th. I > expect it to be delayed until January when I check again next week. > > I went through this crap before when waiting for the 755cd; I ordered one > in November 1994 and received it in mid-April. All I know is that my > tolerance for IBM's lies and deceit is diminishing rapidly. Why can't > they be honest with their customers? > > Michael MacDonald > macd@panix.com > mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu > > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 09:23:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00326; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:23:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16722; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:23:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:21:03 -0500 Received: from bonjour.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16652; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:21:02 -0500 Received: by bonjour.cc.columbia.edu id AA00317 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for TP list ); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:18:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:18:18 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes X-Sender: pm119@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu To: E#KIRKD@ccmail.ceco.com Cc: TP list Subject: Re: Should I worry about Xray machines when travelling In-Reply-To: <9510138162.AA816288444@ccmail.ceco.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Nov 1995 E#KIRKD@ccmail.ceco.com wrote: > Ok, probably a stupid question, but my 701C laptop manual says to stay away > from metal detectors. So what about airport Xray machines? > > Dan Right now I'm writing from the other side of the Atlantic (Denmark to be more specific). My old, faithful TP750Cs has passed under countless X-ray machines, and never a problem. In my experience, nothing seems to happen, but perhaps someone has more data on repeated X-raying (my "countless" above is certainy more than 50, within the last 18-20 months)... Does it shorten the HD life, for example? Paulo -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 09:26:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00334; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:26:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16910; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:26:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:25:48 -0500 Received: from bonjour.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16843; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:25:45 -0500 Received: by bonjour.cc.columbia.edu id AA00631 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for TP list ); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:25:42 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:25:41 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes X-Sender: pm119@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu To: Dennis Park Cc: TP list Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases In-Reply-To: <199511140623.WAA33968@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Nov 1995, Dennis Park wrote: > Just wanted to know where is the best (inexpensive) place to purchase > carrying cases for the Thinkpad. I am particularly interested in the cases > made specifically for the Thinkpad's by Port. The prices from IBM PC Direct > seem rather high, $89 for the compact carrying case. I have a Targa, which has served its purposed quite well. I could live with a couple of added features, but I can't complain too much: I paid about 25-30 bucks for it... -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 09:36:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00426; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:36:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17303; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:35:57 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:35:15 -0500 Received: from bonjour.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17174; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:35:13 -0500 Received: by bonjour.cc.columbia.edu id AA00924 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for TP list ); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:35:11 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:35:10 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes X-Sender: pm119@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu To: "John H. Kim" Cc: TP list Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Don Whiteside wrote: > > > I feel so low-tech. I keep my pad in my Wired messanger bag. No padding, > > > ... Now, I don't check it when flying or drop it, but it _is_ in > > Heck, I *have* dropped mine. Several times. Usually from the corner > of my desk (~ 3 feet up) onto a hardwood floor. I keep getting my > feet tangled in the power and ethernet cables, and when I get up to > leave... :) Mine, a 750Cs, has fallen twice under similar circumstances: once it required a floppy drive replacement (and got a tiny crack on the panel over the eject button); the other time it didn't even complain. I guess we can't really complain about the higher prices IBM charges :) :) -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 12:32:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10880; Sun, 19 Nov 95 12:32:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23097; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 12:32:01 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 12:29:56 -0500 Received: from is.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22808; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 12:29:55 -0500 Received: from KLENNER.NR.RES.NYU.EDU by is.nyu.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/23Sep94-1121PM) id AA14336; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 12:29:53 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 12:29:53 -0500 Message-Id: <9511191729.AA14336@is.nyu.edu> X-Sender: mdk1143@is.nyu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Klenner Subject: Intro Hello, I'm new to the list. As requested, I'm introducing myself. My system is as follows: ThinkPad 360ce (DX2/50, 8.5" Active) 20 Megabytes RAM 540 HDD External Mouse Megahertz XJ2288 Modem IBM Credit Card Adapter II w/10Base-T and 10Base-2 Tranceivers IBM Dock II Holding: Sony 4X CD-ROM Drive (SCSI) MediaVision Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Major Software: Windows95 and WindowsNT 3.51 Office95 PhotoShop3.04 FTP Serv-U Incidentally, the Notebook itself, and the modem are for sale. The rest of it will be used with either a 755CE which I will get as a replacement. If anyone happens to be interested, let me know. For now, I have a couple of questions: 1) How can I make the ISA Sound Card (which is plugged into the Dock II) run its audio into the Dock's built in speakers? 2) Has anyone had any experience with an upgrade program from IBM? I really want to get a 755 machine. 3) Where can I get the righ drive rails for the Dock II? As it is, my internal CD-ROM is not properly mounted. 4) Is there a digest edition of this list, and how do I change over? Thanks guys! --- Michael Klenner mdk1143@is.nyu.edu mklenner@pacificnet.net http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 --- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 18:46:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00612; Sun, 19 Nov 95 18:46:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09735; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 18:45:39 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 18:41:12 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09458; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 18:41:09 -0500 Received: (from news@localhost) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA09141; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 18:41:03 -0500 To: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Path: news From: Wai-Shan Lam Newsgroups: brown.lists.tp750 Subject: Re: 701 Replacement info? Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 18:40:38 -0500 Organization: Brown University Lines: 14 Message-Id: <30AFC076.5889@Brown.edu> References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bootp-30w.andrews.brown.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) There was an article in the InformationWeek homepage which discussed IBM's plan for the 701. In the article, it says IBM might scrap the idea of the Butterfly keyboard, because the current design does not allow them to put a faster processor... and the fact people want BIGGER screens these days. So they might shift their direction towards the SLIM design like the Digital Ultra Lite. But these are all speculations. Nothing is firmed. -- From: ________________________ _______________________ Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.Edu Brown University Box 3691 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com Providence RI 02912--3691 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 03:45:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25684; Mon, 20 Nov 95 03:45:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03380; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 03:44:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 03:41:00 -0500 Received: from estgtw.estec.esa.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03167; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 03:40:57 -0500 Received: by estgtw.estec.esa.nl (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA01094; Mon, 20 Nov 95 09:40:51 +0100 Received: from 666.estec.esa.nl by bcops5.estec.esa.nl via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id KAA03494; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 10:00:25 -0800 Received: by 666.estec.esa.nl with Microsoft Mail id <01BAB72B.EC524000@666.estec.esa.nl>; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 09:38:18 +-100 Message-Id: <01BAB72B.EC524000@666.estec.esa.nl> From: Damon Randall To: "'Thinkpad'" Cc: "'Mr. Gianoli'" Subject: Thinkpad 750 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 09:38:16 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Can anyone help me ? Which version of card software and modem drivers are required to run a = IBM PCMCIA High Speed Fax Modem (model number 342rcx264d) with an IBM = Thinkpad 750C. Thanks in advance for anyhelp recieved. Damon Randall demon@bcops5.estec.esa.nl ESA Estec ISD Projects Team Noordwijk The Netherlands. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 05:50:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06308; Mon, 20 Nov 95 05:50:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16177; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 05:49:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 05:47:32 -0500 Received: from tpone.telepac.pt by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16099; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 05:47:16 -0500 Received: from mail.telepac.pt (webpac.telepac.pt [194.65.3.34]) by tpone.telepac.pt (8.6.12/1.0) with ESMTP id LAA08102 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 11:45:35 GMT Received: from mccord.telepac.pt (alm1_p1.telepac.pt [194.65.16.65]) by mail.telepac.pt (8.6.12/0.0) with SMTP id LAA29899 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 11:44:58 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 11:44:58 GMT Message-Id: <199511201144.LAA29899@mail.telepac.pt> X-Sender: mccord@mail.telepac.pt X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: mccord@telepac.pt (Alan McCord) Subject: Mail order Panasonic source ??? Can anyone recommend a *reliable* mail order company that sells the Panasonic PD SCSI rewritable 650MB combined optical and CDROM drive. There are apparently 2 versions: LF-1000AB (External) <- this is the one I'm interested in. LF-1004AB (Internal) They apparently come with Corel SCSI drivers. I plan to make the SCSI connection by PCMCIA from a 755c. Can anyone suggest whether a New Media "Bus Toaster" or an Adaptec PCMCIA SCSI card would be best? Thanks >> Jeffrey Friedl wrote: >> >Personally, I wouldn't want to use tape except for backups that looked to >> >be very long term (and I tend to use my backups often to check this or >> >recover that). I use a Panasonic PD, which can read CD-ROMS, but can >> >read/write CD-ROM-sized disks at CD-ROM speeds at 650 meg a pop. The >> >problem WRT your specs is that it's not very portable -- you can carry it >> >around, but it's clunky (mabye 2" tall, 7" wide, 14" deep). >> >> Does the Panasonic PD have a SCSI interface and does it come with a PCMCIA >> SCSI card? If not, what card are you using with it? Are you running under >> Win95? >> >> Is there only one model (PD?) > > Actually, I'd be interested in just the CD-ROM drive from that >Panasonic package--not the interface, as I already have an Adaptec >card. Does anyone know if they'll sell it separably? > //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ \\ Alan McCord // Q u a n t u m R e s e a r c h L i m i t e d // R. Galileu Correia 8-7A \\ 2800 Almada // PORTUGAL \\ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 05:57:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06436; Mon, 20 Nov 95 05:57:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16600; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 05:57:18 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 05:56:51 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16501; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 05:55:30 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id TAA15658; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:54:28 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma015650; Mon Nov 20 19:54:27 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id TAA25621; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:54:57 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id TAA09746; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:54:26 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id TAA23150; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:54:25 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:53:40 +0900 Message-Id: <9511201053.AA01268@shibuya.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Alan McCord's message of Mon, 20 Nov 1995 11:44:58 GMT <199511201144.LAA29899@mail.telepac.pt> Subject: Re: Mail order Panasonic source ??? Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> I plan to make the SCSI connection by PCMCIA from a 755c. Can anyone |> suggest whether a New Media "Bus Toaster" or an Adaptec PCMCIA SCSI card |> would be best? I bought an Adaptec ThinSCSI, and have had no problems with it under Linux, DOS, or Windowz. Claimer: I own Adaptec stock, and I have personal reasons for disliking New Media. Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 08:39:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17595; Mon, 20 Nov 95 08:39:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25985; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:38:43 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:35:40 -0500 Received: from greece.elab.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25744; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:35:37 -0500 Received: (stevens@localhost) by greece.elab.columbia.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4.elab) id IAA14469; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:35:32 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:35:32 -0500 From: stevens@elab.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens) Message-Id: <199511201335.IAA14469@greece.elab.columbia.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199511201144.LAA29899@mail.telepac.pt> (mccord@telepac.pt) Subject: Re: Mail order Panasonic source ??? >Can anyone recommend a *reliable* mail order company that sells the >Panasonic PD SCSI rewritable 650MB combined optical and CDROM drive. There >are apparently 2 versions: > >LF-1000AB (External) <- this is the one I'm interested in. >LF-1004AB (Internal) A place with a reasonable reputation is J&R Computer World, though I don't know their reputation on international orders. The latest price I saw for these items are $650 and $500. The cartridges are $60. Their phone is 1-800-221-8180. --andy From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 08:41:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17767; Mon, 20 Nov 95 08:41:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26233; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:41:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:40:40 -0500 Received: from polaris.cv.nrao.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26120; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:40:37 -0500 Received: by polaris.cv.nrao.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA192015; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:40:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:40:34 -0500 From: awootten@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Al Wootten) Message-Id: <9511201340.AA192015@polaris.cv.nrao.edu> To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: 760cd delays In-Reply-To: References: John H. Kim writes: > On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Michael MacDonald wrote: > > > I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? I suspect that marketing tactics decree that they be available for best friends first, individual users as important (many unit) consumers become satisfied. My neighbor, former VP-Marketing for Circuit City, always had the best toys first--and usually several `evaluation units' which on occasion he might lend me for a while in return for an opinion. Sadly, he has retired... Clear skies, Al +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Alwyn Wootten (http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~awootten/) | | Astronomer, National Radio Astronomy Observatory | | 520 Edgemont Road, Charlottesville, VA 22903-2475, USA| | (804)-296-0329 voice Let's build The Millimeter Array| | (804)-296-0278 FAX {> {> {> {> | +------------------------------^-----^-----^-----^------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 15:25:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23282; Mon, 20 Nov 95 15:25:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27039; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:18:40 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:12:21 -0500 Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26557; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:12:14 -0500 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01HXV6B9WMHI004UAV@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 12:11:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 12:11:58 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Thinkpad 701 List? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01HXV6B9WW4O004UAV@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@CS.UTK.EDU" X-Vms-Cc: ANDRSN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I've got a Thinkpad 701 with modem and am having trouble making it dial a Sprint access number, a phone number, and then my personal code number. ProComm Plus knows how to do this, but IBM's Internet Access ("other provider") under OS/2 doesn't seem to know how. Incredibly IBM's Thinkpad help number (18007722227) says this is a software problem; I can get help from the TCPIP group for $149, or help on OS2 Warp software for $35 (one call, I guess). Can anyone here help, or is there a different group for the 701 line? Thanks-- Annelise From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 17:09:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00388; Mon, 20 Nov 95 17:09:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05626; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:07:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:05:28 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05442; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:05:12 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id OAA16934; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:04:57 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma016921; Mon Nov 20 14:04:53 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id OAA04664; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:04:49 -0800 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:04:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199511202204.OAA04664@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu, snmauf@elm.monsanto.com, kensey@wired.com From: Ted Frederick Subject: re: 760cd delays Hi, At 03:49 PM 11/18/95 -0600, Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207 wrote: >Seems to me there is a pattern, if the earlier writers hypotheis can be shown >(that IBM is bound by an antitrust ruling that says they can announce until >they start selling the item) then start writing letters to the US Justice >Department. If enough owners do that, then I would hope the government would >take notice and force the practice to stop. > C'mon people, IBM covers their ass in these things. Contrary to what many of us think from time to time, (myself included) Forrest Gump is not running the works there, they actually *do* have a pretty good grip on the legalities of marketing computer products... All they have to do is show that they could or did ship 'a unit' when they announce the product. I'm certain they have shipped more than one unit of the 760CD. Doug Fairclough mentioned in an earlier e-mail that you should wait until resellers have stock on hand before you order a unit... Bad idea, unless you are willing to wait several months while all the back-orders are filled first. I know this is evil, but, the best thing to do if you "gotta" have the unit pronto is to source as many vendors as possible and place an order with each one. They can't charge/invoice you until they ship (at least in the US), and all you do is cancel the other orders when the first unit arrives. In the event you are shipped multiple units, send the others back and you will be credited by the reseller or IBM since IBM maintains a 30-day no Q's asked return policy. I know it's a little more legwork, but if you *really* want/need it... Keep in mind, this advice is targeted for US consumers only... >From: TIN::"owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu" 18-NOV-1995 14:04:22.92 >To: Michael MacDonald >CC: Thinkpad mailing list >Subj: Re: 760cd delays > >I can certainly appreciate your frustration as I await my 755 CDV Pentium. >I've now heard January after already waithing 2 months and am thinking of >getting the Dx100 version instead. So the 760s aren't the only problem. > >Pat > >At 01:18 PM 95 11 18 -0500, Michael MacDonald wrote: >>I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? >>I ordered a 760cd from PC Direct two days after it went on sale. I was >>told at the time that I could expect delivery in 10 days. Since then, the >>delivery date has been pushed back twice, and is now December 11th. I >>expect it to be delayed until January when I check again next week. >> >>I went through this crap before when waiting for the 755cd; I ordered one >>in November 1994 and received it in mid-April. All I know is that my >>tolerance for IBM's lies and deceit is diminishing rapidly. Why can't >>they be honest with their customers? >> >>Michael MacDonald >>macd@panix.com >>mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu >> >> >> >> > >O _ | Pat Presidente | ======= | Technology Resource Teacher | >|_-/_| | ppreside@cln.etc.bc.ca | P R E Z | SD 72 425 Pinecrest Rd | >| | | 604-286-0651 Fx 286-9801 | ======= | Campbell River, B.C. V9W 3P2 | >=======|"It's a half an inch of water and you think you're gonna drown"-JP | > **************************** Ted Frederick Principal Mgr. DM Practice Voice: 408.894.2275 Fax: 408.894.3484 tedf@cadence.com **************************** From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 17:24:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04343; Mon, 20 Nov 95 17:24:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07188; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:22:09 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:20:58 -0500 Received: from snow.water.ca.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07043; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:20:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199511202220.RAA07043@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by snow.water.ca.gov (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA07361; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:19:37 -0800 From: Frank Gehrke Subject: Source for TP 750 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:19:36 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings- I'm looking for a source for a TP 750. I'd like to get that model as opposed to the newer versions as we're using two of them already and I know that all the parts, software would be interchangeable. Seems to me there was once mention of a source of refurbished Thinkpads. thanks -- Frank Gehrke California Cooperative Snow Surveys P.O. Box 219000 Sacramento, CA 95821-9000 916-574-2635 FAX 916-574-2767 e-mail gridley@water.ca.gov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 18:02:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10504; Mon, 20 Nov 95 18:02:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10704; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:01:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:00:04 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10388; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:59:59 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id OAA28721; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:59:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:59:41 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: Ted Frederick Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, snmauf@elm.monsanto.com Subject: re: 760cd delays In-Reply-To: <199511202204.OAA04664@cds9258.cadence.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Doug Fairclough mentioned in an earlier e-mail that you should wait until > resellers have stock on hand before you order a unit... Bad idea, unless you > are willing to wait several months while all the back-orders are filled first. > > I know this is evil, but, the best thing to do if you "gotta" have the unit > pronto is to source as many vendors as possible and place an order with each > one. They can't charge/invoice you until they ship (at least in the US), > and all you do is cancel the other orders when the first unit arrives. In > the event you are shipped multiple units, send the others back and you will > be credited by the reseller or IBM since IBM maintains a 30-day no Q's asked > return policy. I know it's a little more legwork, but if you *really* > want/need it... > how do you differentiate between what you call 'vendors' and what i call 'resellers'. i meant stores that stock stuff. that you see on the street. you can walk in. feel like you're in some turkish marketplace. etc. are we talking about two different things here ? doug From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 18:09:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10681; Mon, 20 Nov 95 18:09:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11329; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:08:41 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:06:51 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11226; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:06:46 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA24497; Mon, 20 Nov 95 15:05:49 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA01668; Mon, 20 Nov 95 15:04:17 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:04:15 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: "Dennis Park" Subject: Re: Mwave for Win95 Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199511182033.maa09144@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> References: <199511182033.maa09144@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit It doesn't appear to be on their ftp site yet however. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated On Nov. 18 95, 12:33 PST, "Dennis Park" wrote: >Just wanted to let everyone know that the Mwave drivers for Windows 95 is >now available from IBM's BBS. The file is called: >MW952101.EXE (MWAVE Windows 95 Drivers) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 18:27:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11671; Mon, 20 Nov 95 18:27:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12702; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:25:56 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:24:34 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12470; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:24:29 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA07498; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:24:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:24:16 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mwave for Win95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Chris Osborn wrote: > >Just wanted to let everyone know that the Mwave drivers for Windows 95 is > >now available from IBM's BBS. The file is called: > > It doesn't appear to be on their ftp site yet however. Someone post that URL for IBM's link to their Compuserve directory. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 18:30:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11691; Mon, 20 Nov 95 18:30:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12843; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:28:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:27:22 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12770; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:27:18 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA10855; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA20308; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:27:06 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511202327.PAA20308@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Source for TP 750 To: gridley@snow.water.ca.gov (Frank Gehrke) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:27:05 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <199511202220.RAA07043@CS.UTK.EDU> from "Frank Gehrke" at Nov 20, 95 02:19:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm looking for a source for a TP 750. I'd like to get that model as opposed to > the newer versions as we're using two of them already and I know that all the parts, software would be interchangeable. Seems to me there was once mention of a source of refurbished Thinkpads. > > thanks > -- > Frank Gehrke Frank, surprisingly I'm selling a 750C right now--if its the color screen you want (as opposed to a 750 mono) and you don't require getting one >from an "approved vendor" or some such, then send me an E-mail. My guess is that I'd be cheaper than IBM refurbs and there's still more than 1 year's warranty on my machine. Good luck... ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 18:45:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13235; Mon, 20 Nov 95 18:45:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14010; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:43:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:41:52 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13854; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:41:48 -0500 From: Received: from ppp-ftl1-19.shadow.net (ppp-ftl1-19.shadow.net [206.136.141.19]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA06623 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:42:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:42:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199511202342.SAA06623@shadow.net> X-Sender: chappe@shadow.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701C w/New Media Bus Toaster? Has anyone had any problems/success loading this card (the SCSI II) in a TP701C? The New Media Bus Toaster SNIFFER program reports no memory , io, or IRQ resources available. The BTASPI driver will not load. I've tried the configuration for Thinpads from their FAX Server, I've also tried different Card Services software (CARDSOFT). Still no luck. Your comments are welcome. Thanks. _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- chappe@shadow.net ~ This is the modern world. PW. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 19:56:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20655; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:56:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19099; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:55:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:53:51 -0500 Received: from PEAK.ORG by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18942; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:53:47 -0500 Received: from leejim.peak.org (stone.PEAK.ORG [198.68.21.132]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.12/8.6.7) with SMTP id QAA17622 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 16:53:38 -0800 Message-Id: <199511210053.QAA17622@PEAK.ORG> Sender: From: "Jim Lee" Organization: Diamond Quest Consulting To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 16:56:02 -8 Subject: Re: TP701C w/New Media Bus Toaster? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) > From: > Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:42:46 -0500 > To: TP750@cs.utk.edu > Subject: TP701C w/New Media Bus Toaster? > Has anyone had any problems/success loading this card > (the SCSI II) in a TP701C? > > The New Media Bus Toaster SNIFFER program reports > no memory , io, or IRQ resources available. > > The BTASPI driver will not load. > I've tried the configuration for Thinpads from their > FAX Server, I've also tried different Card Services > software (CARDSOFT). Still no luck. > > Your comments are welcome. > Thanks. I have no problems at all with the Bus Toaster/TP701C combo, but I'm running Linux and Win95. Haven't tried it under DOS/Win (and never will... :-) ---------- Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 19:56:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20660; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:56:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19057; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:55:02 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:52:32 -0500 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18864; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:52:27 -0500 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:52:16 EST Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 20 Nov 95 19:55:32 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 20 Nov 95 19:55:16 EST From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:55:06 EST Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: <18163E75DB@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> > wondering if anyone can suggest a good backup solution for a > thinkpad. > > Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 > Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 > As silly as it seems, an external 1GB+ drive in a parallel box might be what you are looking for. Princing for an external drive box with parallel interface is ~$100(US) plus >1GB(more with compression) ~$300. Reasonable price and quite fast, plus no heavy power supply issues. Big question: Do you need quick access to your backed up data? If yes, then you should stick with an "active" backup based on disk, i.e. magneto optical or convensional hard disk. Best bang for the buck is Pinnacle Micro's new Apex 4.6GB uncompressed for ~$1,700 with additional 4.6GB disks for ~$200. That's $0.37/MB to start and $0.04/MB there after! If no, consider the vast assortment of tape backups. The above note is from experiences with our publications people you have tried to maintain libraries on DAT, the fastest/largest of the tapes. It does not work practically. 15min+ does not compare to 1/2 sec favorably _esp_ when you are looking for multiple files. I would agree the network backup is probably the cheapest/safest but it appears that you might be away from your desk? Guy W. Farrell Vox: (860)486-0964 My Desk Network Coordinator, Postmaster (860)486-5000 Front Desk The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 Toll-free U-Box 206 Fax: (860)486-1615 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 19:57:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20666; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:57:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19289; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:56:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:55:33 -0500 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19157; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:55:29 -0500 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:55:15 EST Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 20 Nov 95 19:58:32 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 20 Nov 95 19:58:23 EST From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:58:15 EST Subject: Re: 760cd delays Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: <18239A488C@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> > On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Michael MacDonald wrote: > > > I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? > On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, John H. Kim responded: > > We've discussed this (emphasis on "cussed" :) several times in the > past two years. One theory has to do with the consent decree IBM > signed with the U.S. Justice Department. > Anyways, the theory goes that since they can't pre-announce anything, > they build a few computers, then announce and sell them before they've > started mass-producing them. Common practice. Gateway was two months behind on P120 delivery mid summer. I have been privy to the back-stabbing that occurs for new machines. Neither of the two companies previously mensioned were involved, but a sales/marketing officer told me outright that a particular hospital's order was shipping while a university order might have to wait four to six months. Reason: "limited availability and stronger than expected demand". Really, they just promiss it all and know that production & demand are somewhat inverse with hot new products. Guy W. Farrell Vox: (860)486-0964 My Desk Network Coordinator, Postmaster (860)486-5000 Front Desk The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 Toll-free U-Box 206 Fax: (860)486-1615 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 20:14:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22009; Mon, 20 Nov 95 20:14:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21136; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:13:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:11:56 -0500 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20778; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:11:50 -0500 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 20 Nov 95 20:11:35 EST Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 20 Nov 95 20:14:51 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 20 Nov 95 20:14:43 EST From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:14:43 EST Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: <18694D7029@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, Paulo Magalhaes > On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Don Whiteside wrote: > > > > > I feel so low-tech. I keep my pad in my Wired messanger bag. No padding, > > > > > ... Now, I don't check it when flying or drop it, but it _is_ in > > > > Heck, I *have* dropped mine. Several times. Usually from the corner > > of my desk (~ 3 feet up) onto a hardwood floor... :) > > Mine, a 750Cs, has fallen twice under similar circumstances :) :) Alright, how about an old TP350 surviving two years of college in an L.L.Bean backpack. Little padding esp on the bottom of the bag where is it sat on the floor. A few hundred miles mtn biking, lots of picking up by the screen, too many to count knocks from the desk to the asbestos tile floor, and only a backplate replacement (the new one was reinforced by a race car body fabricator with fiberglass!) Oh, and the little kick stand/port cover has been ripped off (not my doing). Guy W. Farrell Vox: (860)486-0964 My Desk Network Coordinator, Postmaster (860)486-5000 Front Desk The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 Toll-free U-Box 206 Fax: (860)486-1615 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 20:53:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24180; Mon, 20 Nov 95 20:53:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24091; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:52:04 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:50:52 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23979; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:50:49 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id RAA17522; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:50:45 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma017260; Mon Nov 20 17:48:48 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id RAA23336; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:48:47 -0800 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:48:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199511210148.RAA23336@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dpark@ucla.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Ted Frederick Subject: MWave for Win95... Fact or Fiction? Hi Dennis, On Nov 18th you wrote that you found MWave for Win95 drivers on the BBS. Looked on the WWW/FTP server... not there. Went to the BBS at (919)517-0001 and searched for MW95, mw95, 95, w95, MW952101.EXE, mw952101.exe and came up empty... Am I missing something? Did they pull the file? Where did you see it? Would you be willing to send it to me? -Ted From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 21:14:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25236; Mon, 20 Nov 95 21:14:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25666; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 21:12:29 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 21:10:17 -0500 Received: from central.picker.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25379; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 21:10:15 -0500 Received: from mr.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0tHhtH-0004sCC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 20:52 EST Received: from alpha14 by mr.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-a) id AA01255; Mon, 20 Nov 95 20:51:34 EST From: djr@mr.picker.com (Don Russell) Received: by alpha14; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15May95-0912AM) id AA30471; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:51:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:51:33 -0500 Message-Id: <9511210151.AA30471@alpha14> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760 info Is there an ftp site with an archive of this mailing list's activity? -- +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Don Russell | Internet: djr@mr.picker.com | | Picker International | Voice: (216)-473-5726 | | 5500 Avion Park Drive | Fax: (216) 473-5728 | | Highland Heights, Ohio 44143 | | +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 23:43:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19641; Mon, 20 Nov 95 23:43:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06672; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 23:43:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 23:40:02 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06337; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 23:40:00 -0500 Received: from Thinkpad (ts39-1.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.110]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA27684 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:39:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:39:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199511210439.UAA27684@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: dpark@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Dennis Park Subject: Re: Mwave for Win 95 The drivers should be posted on the usual IBM file areas (IBM BBS, Web, Compuserve) in the next few days. The file is dated Nov 13, 1995. Dennis From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 12:40:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26355; Tue, 21 Nov 95 12:40:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08733; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:38:30 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:29:46 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07840; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:29:42 -0500 Received: (from news@localhost) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA23784; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:29:04 -0500 To: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Path: news From: Wai-Shan Lam Newsgroups: brown.lists.tp750 Subject: Re: Mwave for Win 95 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:28:38 -0500 Organization: Brown University Lines: 8 Message-Id: <30B20C46.470B@Brown.edu> References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bootp-30w.andrews.brown.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) To: Dennis Park -- Personally, I cannot find the MWave 95 you mentioned. Do you have the exact file names? From: ________________________ _______________________ Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.Edu Brown University Box 3691 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com Providence RI 02912--3691 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 12:54:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27062; Tue, 21 Nov 95 12:54:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10756; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:52:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:51:13 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10608; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:51:11 -0500 Received: from mailhub.cts.com (mailhub.cts.com [192.188.72.25]) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA25091 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:51:06 -0500 Received: from c2laptop.iaco.com by mailhub.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #20) id m0tHwqX-000V6WC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:51 PST Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Christopher Cunningham" Organization: Internet Advertising Corp. To: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 09:50:18 +0000 Subject: IBM Support Reply-To: c2@iaco.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.22) This message is to IBM, it has also been sent directly to IBM via their Web site. I would like to make a suggestion on behalf of a large number of ThinkPad users who have access to the Internet although not necessarily through Compuserve. I would like to suggest that IBM release software updates to its ftp/Web site with the same degree of timeliness that it releases software to the Compuserve support forum. Most recently, IBM has released Win95 MWAVE drivers on Compuserve but failed to put them on the ftp/Web site (it is also interesting to note that IBM also releases software updates to Compuserve before posting on its own dialup BBS). Given that Compuserve represents a small percentage of the size of the overall Internet population, it would seem that IBM is not making much effort to service the majority of its installed base. Furthermore, IBM's de-emphasis of the Internet as a medium for software support and distribution in favor of a private service is directly in opposition to IBM's stated support of the Internet as a basis for future products and technology. It is hard to take IBM's stated commitment to the Internet seriously when it won't support its users through this important medium - Microsoft does. While IBM deals with this problem, it would sure be nice if they would post the MWAVE 95 drivers to their ftp site. IBM: are you listening? Show us by posting a response stating your position on release schedules for software updates on the Internet. Regards, Christopher Cunningham From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 12:56:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27369; Tue, 21 Nov 95 12:56:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10906; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:54:19 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:53:18 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.nsc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10776; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:53:15 -0500 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by gatekeeper.nsc.com (5.65/fma-120691) with SMTP; id AA22733 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:53:06 -0800 Received: from berlioz.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA03242 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:53:05 -0800 Received: from maradona.nsc.com by berlioz.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18996; Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:48:33 PST Date: Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:48:33 PST From: wmng@berlioz.nsc.com (William Ng) Message-Id: <9511211748.AA18996@berlioz.nsc.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: problem with Adaptec SlimScsi Hello, I have the following problem and would appreicate any help: I recently bought a NEC MultiSpin 3Xp plus external CDROM and an Adaptec SlimScsi PCMCIA card. I am having a tp755cx running Warp (3.0) and Windows 3.11 (the configuration came preload). For the last week I tried to install the software drivers without any success. Frist I tried to install the drivers under Windows. At the end, it created an Adpatec program group but when I tried to use the CDROM player, it said the drivers are not there. The way I installed the software was to invoke Windows under Warp and run the installation there. I did not reboot to DOS and run Windows first. I am not sure if this is the right way. I did not play around with that very much since my interest was to get the CDROM running under OS/2 first. So I went to the "Selective Install" under Warp to install the driver stuffs for this NEC CDROM. I checked config.sys afterward and it looked like the installation had made the right changes. The section which I think is right looks like this: REM following 5 lines were for SCSI/CDROM support used during install - begin DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q IFS=C:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /Q DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD BASEDEV=AHA152X.ADD REM === SCSI/CDROM support used during install - end REM === ThinkPad PC Card Director - begin === BASEDEV=PCMCIA.SYS /P BASEDEV=IBM2SS01.SYS /D DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\VPCMCIA.SYS DEVICE=C:\MWAVEOS2\BIN\mwbd0400.sys BUS=1150000 DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (2,2F8,3) DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCOM.SYS DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV2.SYS C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV2.INI REM Client driver should be loaded here prior to $ICPMOS2.SYS DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\$ICPMOS2.SYS REM === ThinkPad PC Card Director - end === However, after I rebooted the machine, the machine could not find the CDROM. I tried to register the CDROM player within the "Card Director", but when I launched the application, nothing happened. I tried to open the CDROM player and it said the CDROM is not available. Next, I looked for newer drivers in Adpatec BBS, found one (AHX152X.ADD), replaced it with the old one and I could not even boot my machine. It complained about some internal error with the driver PCMCIA$. I am basically stuck at this point. Please help! Thanks in advance. -William Ng From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 15:27:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11487; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:27:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25962; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:24:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:21:35 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25671; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:21:32 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA11119; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:20:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:20:34 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Cc: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Subject: Re: IBM Support In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Christopher Cunningham wrote: > I would like to suggest that IBM > release software updates to its ftp/Web site with the same degree of > timeliness that it releases software to the Compuserve support forum. There *is* a way to access the Compuserve files via the web. IBM has a cgi-bin somewhere that accesses a directory with a name identical to their Compuserve files directory. The last time we went through this, it had the new files several days before the ftp site did. I just don't remember the URL. Somebody post it, or remind us what IBM's Compuserve file directory name is to jog out collective memory. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 15:27:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11486; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:27:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25958; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:24:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:21:42 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25682; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:21:38 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA04730 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:21:34 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA11119; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:20:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:20:34 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Cc: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Subject: Re: IBM Support In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Christopher Cunningham wrote: > I would like to suggest that IBM > release software updates to its ftp/Web site with the same degree of > timeliness that it releases software to the Compuserve support forum. There *is* a way to access the Compuserve files via the web. IBM has a cgi-bin somewhere that accesses a directory with a name identical to their Compuserve files directory. The last time we went through this, it had the new files several days before the ftp site did. I just don't remember the URL. Somebody post it, or remind us what IBM's Compuserve file directory name is to jog out collective memory. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 17:44:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26816; Tue, 21 Nov 95 17:44:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10156; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:42:31 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:39:12 -0500 Received: from cs.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09824; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:39:06 -0500 Received: from jones.cs.brown.edu (jones.cs.brown.edu [128.148.38.144]) by cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/Bullwinkle1.1) with ESMTP id RAA11350; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:39:00 -0500 (EST) From: Sridhar Ramaswamy Received: (sr@localhost) by jones.cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/BrownCS1.0) id RAA12080; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:38:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:38:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511212238.RAA12080@jones.cs.brown.edu> To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701 List? >>From: Annelise Anderson >> >>I've got a Thinkpad 701 with modem and am having trouble making it >>dial a Sprint access number, a phone number, and then my personal >>code number. >> >>ProComm Plus knows how to do this, but IBM's Internet Access ("other >>provider") under OS/2 doesn't seem to know how. >> >>Incredibly IBM's Thinkpad help number (18007722227) says this is a >>software problem; I can get help from the TCPIP group for $149, or >>help on OS2 Warp software for $35 (one call, I guess). >> >>Can anyone here help, or is there a different group for the 701 line? >> How do you know when to enter the access code? I mean, do you get a prompt or something? Or are you trying to use a calling card number? IBM's Internet Access can be asked to use a Rexx script for dialing up. I had to hack up one of their pre-provided scripts in order to run slip from my company's terminal server (which requires s/key passwords). If there is a simple pattern to what you have to do, Rexx is quite easy for this job. If the timing you require is very fixed (enter access code 15 seconds after dialing the phone number), that should also be easy to do. Just look the example rexx scripts in \tcpip\bin. They have a .cmd extension. Good luck, --Sridhar From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 18:22:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29668; Tue, 21 Nov 95 18:22:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13514; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:21:25 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:20:04 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13312; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:19:59 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA15283 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:19:43 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.106] (comserv-f-34.usc.edu [128.125.223.106]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id PAA07363; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:19:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:27:46 -0800 To: c2@iaco.com, brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: IBM Support At 1:50 AM 11/21/95, Christopher Cunningham wrote: >I would like to make a suggestion on behalf of a large number of >ThinkPad users who have access to the Internet although not >necessarily through Compuserve. I would like to suggest that IBM >release software updates to its ftp/Web site with the same degree of >timeliness that it releases software to the Compuserve support forum. >Most recently, IBM has released Win95 MWAVE drivers on Compuserve but >failed to put them on the ftp/Web site (it is also interesting to note >that IBM also releases software updates to Compuserve before posting >on its own dialup BBS). I just thought I'd ad a couple of pennies in here... :) You and the list may or may not be aware of this, but basically everytime someone logs into Compu$erve and goes to the IBM forum--IBM makes a little chunk of change. For *very* many companies, Compuserve is a profit center--a little money machine. Compuserve splits a portion of the fee to the companies with forums on Compuserve, because they know when people go into those forums, that is the reason for calling Compuserve in the first place. Given this information, its not particularly rational for IBM to steer anyone to its BBS or an FTP site--the bottom line is that they make a buck when you dial in to Compuserve. I'm sure they'd prefer that you call Compuserve! ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 18:28:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00054; Tue, 21 Nov 95 18:28:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14008; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:27:07 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:26:35 -0500 Received: from PEAK.ORG by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13929; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:26:31 -0500 Received: from leejim.peak.org ([198.68.20.35]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.12/8.6.7) with SMTP id PAA15379; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:17:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199511212317.PAA15379@PEAK.ORG> Sender: From: "Jim Lee" Organization: Diamond Quest Consulting To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:17:16 -8 Subject: Re: TP701C w/New Media Bus Toaster? Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) > Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 22:26:19 +0100 > To: "Jim Lee" > From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) > Subject: Re: TP701C w/New Media Bus Toaster? > >I have no problems at all with the Bus Toaster/TP701C combo, but I'm > >running Linux and Win95. Haven't tried it under DOS/Win (and never > >will... :-) > Hate to burst your bubble, but Win95 is still DOS/Win.:) They just package > it differently. I'm told that all but the graphical parts of win95 will > run under an OS2 virtual DOS machine. > > ---------------------------- > Victor Kress > Geophysical Laboratory > 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. > Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 > (202) 686-2410 x2489 > --------------------------- > > > Don't worry, my "bubble" is still intact :-). As an operating systems designer, I am well aware of the similarities between Win95 and DOS/Win31. However, it's not as cut-and-dried as you describe. My original comment was meant to amplify the differences between Win95 and DOS/Win in the area of hardware configuration. However, this is not the place to discuss operating systems, so I will respectfully decline to comment further... ---------- Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 18:58:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04211; Tue, 21 Nov 95 18:58:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16061; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:57:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:54:41 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15816; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:54:38 -0500 Received: from mailhub.cts.com (mailhub.cts.com [192.188.72.25]) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA16976 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:54:35 -0500 Received: from c2laptop.iaco.com by mailhub.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #20) id m0tI2WF-000VMPC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:54 PST Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Christopher Cunningham" Organization: Internet Advertising Corp. To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu, brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:53:57 +0000 Subject: Re: IBM Support Reply-To: c2@iaco.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.22) Good point, I was aware of this but I thought that I had already paid for support in the form of one of the more expensive laptops around. Afterall, if you purchase a new laptop from IBM and ask about support, they will tell you about their BBS, Compuserve, and the Internet - they don't indicate that only one of these channels receives prompt updates. Why doesn't IBM respond in this forum? If their policy is to charge for support through Compuserve they should just say so and put the issue to bed. - Christopher Cunningham > I just thought I'd ad a couple of pennies in here... :) > > You and the list may or may not be aware of this, but basically > everytime someone logs into Compu$erve and goes to the IBM forum--IBM makes > a little chunk of change. For *very* many companies, Compuserve is a > profit center--a little money machine. Compuserve splits a portion of the > fee to the companies with forums on Compuserve, because they know when > people go into those forums, that is the reason for calling Compuserve in > the first place. > > Given this information, its not particularly rational for IBM to > steer anyone to its BBS or an FTP site--the bottom line is that they make a > buck when you dial in to Compuserve. I'm sure they'd prefer that you call > Compuserve! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 20:53:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14656; Tue, 21 Nov 95 20:53:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23834; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:52:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:50:03 -0500 Received: from emout05.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23501; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:49:58 -0500 From: Received: by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA08598; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:48:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:48:05 -0500 Message-Id: <951121204804_30152366@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: c2@iaco.com, TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM Support- File posting NOT consistent! In a message dated 95-11-21 12:57:24 EST, c2@iaco.com (Christopher Cunningham) writes: >I would like to suggest that IBM >release software updates to its ftp/Web site with the same degree of >timeliness that it releases software to the Compuserve support forum. >Most recently, IBM has released Win95 MWAVE drivers on Compuserve but >failed to put them on the ftp/Web site (it is also interesting to note >that IBM also releases software updates to Compuserve before posting >on its own dialup BBS). AGREE!! I also noticed that the files posted in the BBS are not the same as the FTP/Web site. For example, I recently downloaded the file 750_TIPS.TXT from the FTP site and found the file very interesting and useful for fine tuning my 755C with the latest updated drivers, etc. However it seems like the file has now disappeared from the FTP site ( I thought that I had gone crazy since it was there couple days ago) and it seems to remain in the BBS under section [37] Thinkpad files. I don't know about Compuserve though. I wish IBM can be consistent in their file postings!!! I'm afraid that I'm missing some extremely useful files and information that are posted elsewhere. -Mark M. (Mark3M@aol.com) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 22:18:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25591; Tue, 21 Nov 95 22:18:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00327; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 22:18:11 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 22:16:27 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29987; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 22:16:19 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id TAA24119; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 19:16:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 19:16:12 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: starting from scratch ... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII looks like i kind of have to. i bought the 750cx used, and the guy removed all this stuff by hand, so plug and play doesnt happen, and in general, its kinda wacked out. so, i figure to low level format the c-drive, get a cd-rom hooked up somehow, and go from there (what i typically do when i get a used machine anyway) to install windows95 (then linux). anything i should be aware of ? i know that ibm does ship floppies of everything in case you need to do just that. doug From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 22 03:15:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20801; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:15:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21290; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 03:15:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 03:12:18 -0500 Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21029; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 03:12:11 -0500 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/Task/HJ-5) id AA131827928; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:12:08 +0100 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA189627961; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:12:41 +0100 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199511220812.AA189627961@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: Discontinued Thinkpads To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:12:41 +0100 (MET) Cc: orjanr@staff.cs.uit.no X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit FYI, These TP's are not available anymore.......... > > -----Announcement Letter 995123----- > > Hardware Withdrawal: Selected ThinkPad Systems > > Product Announcement 995-123 > Announced on November 21, 1995 > > > Effective December 21, 1995, IBM will withdraw from marketing the > following products. After December 21, 1995, you will no longer be > able to obtain these products directly from IBM. You can obtain the > products on an as-available basis through IBM authorized remarketers > with an approved value add, IBM Authorized Personal Computer Dealers, > or by calling PC Direct(1) at 800-IBM-2YOU (426-2968). > > Machine Part > Description Type/Model Number > > ThinkPad(R) 360C (170MB) 2620-30D 262030D > ThinkPad 360C (340MB) 2620-30F 262030F > > ThinkPad 360Cs (340MB, 33MHz, DSTN) 2620-R0F 2620R0F > > ThinkPad 360P (340MB) 2620-50F 262050F > > ThinkPad 360CE (TFT, 340MB) 2620-90F 262090F > ThinkPad 360CE (TFT, 540MB) 2620-90G 262090G > > ThinkPad 360CSE (DSTN, 340MB) 2620-80F 262080F > ThinkPad 360CSE (DSTN, 540MB) 2620-80G 262080G > ThinkPad 360CSE (DSTN, 540MB, > with Audio) 2620-T0G 2620T0G > > ThinkPad 701C (TFT, 360MB, DX2, 4MB) 2630-UT2 2630UT2 > ThinkPad 701C (TFT, 540MB, DX2, 4MB) 2630-UT5 2630UT5 > ThinkPad 701C (DSTN, 360MB, DX2, 4MB) 2630-US2 2630US2 > ThinkPad 701C (DSTN, 540MB, DX2, 4MB) 2630-US5 2630US5 > > ThinkPad 755C (340MB, 50MHz) 9545-F0E 9545F0E > ThinkPad 755C (540MB, 50MHz) 9545-F0G 9545F0G > ThinkPad 755C (340MB, 75MHz) 9545-L0E 9545L0E > ThinkPad 755C (540MB, 75MHz) 9545-L0G 9545L0G > > Traveling Multimedia for the > IBM ThinkPad 755C 2337289 > > ThinkPad 755CSE (340MB, 100MHz) 9545-6BC 95456BC > ThinkPad 755CSE (540MB, 100MHz) 9545-6BD 95456BD > ThinkPad 755CSE (810MB, 100MHz) 9545-6BE 95456BE > ThinkPad 755CE (340MB, 100MHz) 9545-7BC 95457BC > ThinkPad 755CE (540MB, 100MHz) 9545-7BD 95457BD > ThinkPad 755CE (810MB, 100MHz) 9545-7BE 95457BE > > > Replacement Product Information: None > > (1) Trademark of Ziff Communications Company and is used by IBM > Corporation under license. > (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines > Corporation > > > > > > > DESCRIPTION > > "The summary above is the entire text of this announcement." > > -- //// Harald Skotnes // Email: harald@staff.cs.uit.no / /// Dept. of Computer Science // Phone: +47 77 64 41 16 // // University of Tromsoe // Fax: +47 77 64 40 54 /// / N-9037 TROMSOE NORWAY // Like it or not, it's One World //// From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 22 06:19:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06305; Wed, 22 Nov 95 06:19:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10813; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 06:18:19 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 06:16:09 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10681; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 06:16:06 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA16997 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 06:15:53 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA06952; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:15:35 +1100 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA26368; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:15:32 +1100 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:15:31 +1100 (EST) To: Randy Whittle Cc: c2@iaco.com, brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Subject: Re: IBM Support In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII in other words, ibm would rather have us spend our money (and our university's money) on compuserve rather than on thinkpads? Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Randy Whittle wrote: > At 1:50 AM 11/21/95, Christopher Cunningham wrote: > > >I would like to make a suggestion on behalf of a large number of > >ThinkPad users who have access to the Internet although not > >necessarily through Compuserve. I would like to suggest that IBM > >release software updates to its ftp/Web site with the same degree of > >timeliness that it releases software to the Compuserve support forum. > >Most recently, IBM has released Win95 MWAVE drivers on Compuserve but > >failed to put them on the ftp/Web site (it is also interesting to note > >that IBM also releases software updates to Compuserve before posting > >on its own dialup BBS). > > I just thought I'd ad a couple of pennies in here... :) > > You and the list may or may not be aware of this, but basically > everytime someone logs into Compu$erve and goes to the IBM forum--IBM makes > a little chunk of change. For *very* many companies, Compuserve is a > profit center--a little money machine. Compuserve splits a portion of the > fee to the companies with forums on Compuserve, because they know when > people go into those forums, that is the reason for calling Compuserve in > the first place. > > Given this information, its not particularly rational for IBM to > steer anyone to its BBS or an FTP site--the bottom line is that they make a > buck when you dial in to Compuserve. I'm sure they'd prefer that you call > Compuserve! > > ----- ____________________________ > Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | > USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | > "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| > Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- > -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner > > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 22 09:41:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22302; Wed, 22 Nov 95 09:41:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23772; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:38:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:35:16 -0500 Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23280; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:35:13 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA20570; Wed, 22 Nov 95 09:35:08 EST Message-Id: <9511221435.AA20570@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:51:13 +0100 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: ADMIN Re: replies in the tp750 forum There are times that I have a minor comment in reply to things I see on this group which I don't think is worth taking everybodys time with. In such a situation I will tend to make a comment directly to the sender, rather than the group at large. I recommend this procedure. Three times now I have had my replies and the replied to's reply to my reply posted to the group. This makes me feel guilty for wasting the whole groups time on a trivial or irrelevant matter. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has had this problem, judging by some of the 'headless replies' I have seen. People should be more careful about checking the sender field of mail they receive. Senders like myself should probably also put a header in their message indicating that the message did not go to the forum. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 22 10:34:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25818; Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:34:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29881; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:33:29 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:31:40 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29622; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:31:37 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA15565; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 07:31:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id HAA27020; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 07:31:30 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511221531.HAA27020@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: IBM Support To: Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au (Alden S Klovdahl) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 07:31:29 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Alden S Klovdahl" at Nov 22, 95 10:15:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > in other words, ibm would rather have us spend our money (and our > university's money) on compuserve rather than on thinkpads? That's a false dichotomy. Its like saying "Because IBM charges so much for parts, they want you to spend your money on parts instead of on more thinkpads." Compuserve is just another way for IBM to make a buck. Given this information, my guess is that they milk this for whatever they can get, then put the files you need onto an FTP site after some period of time (to keep y'all from catching on and getting *too* pissed off). On an individual basis, its not that much $ per person, but on a collective basis--I bet IBM makes a nice little chunk of change. I'm sure their view of it is that most people aren't wise to how they benefit from this presumed strategy and the marginal difference to the consumer is *not* going to affect his/her future purchase of a thinkpad. Look at me--few things made me more pissed off than their unsupported battery life claims on th 750C, yet I bought another TP. I suspect that for all IBM's foibles, the vast majority of ThinkPad owners are happy with their purchase and will likely purchase another one someday. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 22 11:00:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27864; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:00:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02032; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:54:29 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:52:40 -0500 Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01843; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:52:37 -0500 Received: from pop2.fas.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with ESMTP id KAA13082; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:52:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from dvader by pop2.fas.harvard.edu with SMTP id KAA12137 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:59:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2b7.32.19951122154722.006c2724@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b7 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:47:22 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Sound in Win95... Okay...I took the plung after I got screwed by IBM and Micro Center and installed Win95 (ditched OS/2...oh well...no apps!). Anyway, is there a way to get the volume bar to work under Multimedia Settings in the Control Panel? I'm running a TP750C/36 Mb. I looked at IBM's web page, but... -- "Women...can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em..." -- Tom Arnold (True Lies) Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 22 11:46:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00108; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:46:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08489; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:44:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:42:48 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08163; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:42:43 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id LAA13668; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:40:19 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA2822; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:40:41 -0800 Message-Id: <9511221940.AA2822@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id F340D4FC2E23D21C8525627C005B73B2; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:40:40 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 22 Nov 95 11:39:59 EDT Subject: Re: Sound in Win95... X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....installed Win95 (ditched OS/2...oh well...no apps!). Anyway, is there a way to get the volume bar to work under Multimedia Settings in the Control Panel? I'm running a TP750C/36 Mb. I looked at IBM's web page, but...." ~~~~~ it's been my experience that the multimedia software that comes with win95 overrides any audio controls you may have had previously, be they soundblaster, mwave, or whatever. try using the volume control in the multimedia folder in the accessories folder in the program folder in the start menu... god, i hate windows 95. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 22 11:52:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00219; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:52:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09142; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:50:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:49:26 -0500 Received: from mach1.gs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09024; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:49:24 -0500 Received: from gs.com (postoffice1.gs.com [138.8.220.10]) by mach1.gs.com (8.7.1/8.7.1/mach1) with SMTP id LAA16589 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from fi.gs.com (fi.fi.gs.com) by gs.com (4.1/GOLDMAN-1.0) id AA01209; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:50:07 EST Received: from slsd0.fi.gs.com by fi.gs.com (4.1/SMI-4.2 (FI main hub)) id AA29681; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:49:18 EST Received: from sls062.fi.gs.com by slsd0.fi.gs.com (4.1/FIsubhub-2.7) id AA06167; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:49:16 EST Received: by sls062.fi.gs.com (4.1/FIclient-2.8) id AA07332; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:49:15 EST Date: Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:49:15 EST Message-Id: <9511221649.AA07332@sls062.fi.gs.com> From: Danny Padwa To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Fuel gadget under Win95? Windows Fuel tool from the Thinkpad Utilities disk....it seems to have trouble reading the state of the battery. Anyone else had any luck with this? Any chance for a new version of the Thinkpad tools for Win95 support? Thanks, Danny From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 01:08:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14813; Thu, 23 Nov 95 01:08:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09597; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:07:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:00:30 -0500 Received: from ripspost.aist.go.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09234; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:00:17 -0500 Received: from bhpom.nibh.go.jp by ripspost.aist.go.jp (8.6.9+2.4W/TISN-1.3/R2-AIST) id PAA24400; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 15:00:01 +0900 Received: by bhpom.nibh.go.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/6.4J.6-nibh.MASTER) id PAA11370; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 15:02:39 +0900 Received: by human.nibh.go.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/6.4J.6-ipri92sep) id OAA24081; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 14:59:59 +0900 Message-Id: <199511230559.OAA24081@human.nibh.go.jp> X-Sender: b0018@150.29.56.34 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 14:56:45 +0900 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Akira TERAO Subject: Re: Fuel gadget under Win95? At 11:49 AM 22/11/95 EST, Danny Padwa wrote: >Windows Fuel tool from the Thinkpad Utilities disk....it seems to have >trouble reading the state of the battery. > > Anyone else had any luck with this? Any chance for a new >version of the Thinkpad tools for Win95 support? I have the same problem with Windows 3.1: the battery status is not displayed and even the status icons (power mode, charging/recycling) are not updated. The whole window looks just like a static icon. I had to come back to an older version. Akira =============================================================================== National Institute of Bioscience and Human-Technology ... jeunesse... Nervous Informatics Laboratory ... la ... 1-1 Higashi, Tsukuba ... forment ... Tel: +81-298-54.6630 Ibaraki 305 ... voyages ... Fax: +81-298-54.6633 Japan ... Les ... eMail: Terao@NIBH.go.jp =============================================================================== From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 01:30:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15977; Thu, 23 Nov 95 01:30:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10500; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:29:41 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:28:35 -0500 Received: from denver.ssds.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10420; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:28:32 -0500 Received: from freke.ssds.com (rem_den29.ssds.com [134.127.122.29]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id XAA04067; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 23:27:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199511230627.XAA04067@denver.ssds.com> X-Sender: cds@denver.ssds.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 00:26:51 -0600 To: Michael Verne/VENTANA , tp750 From: "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson)" Subject: Sound, Games, and Win95 Greetings, I have a 755CE with the v2.0 MWave code, and I have some questions. Sound works most of the time, however, I can not get it working with the latest doom engine (or any doom engine), but it will work with Heritic. Any clues? Regards, -+Chris ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd. Suite 993 business driven Bloomington, MN 55437; technology solutions 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Um Yah Yah! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 05:41:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00457; Thu, 23 Nov 95 05:41:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02663; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 05:41:13 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 05:38:40 -0500 Received: from next.lbs.lon.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02300; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 05:38:22 -0500 Received: by next.lbs.lon.ac.uk (NX5.67e/NeXT-1.0(KJW-19Apr90)) id AA01571; Wed, 22 Nov 95 18:33:32 GMT Message-Id: <9511221833.AA01571@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ivo Welch Date: Wed, 22 Nov 95 18:33:32 GMT To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Warnings: mwave modem, pkzip Reply-To: ivo@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk [1] I just tried to use the 1-month-old mwave 2.0 software fax modem for the first time under Windows 3.11. I used the Windows terminal program. Well, I got an internal error when it started to actually dial, and I could no longer shut down Windows. After a reboot, win.exe and the windows\system subdirectory is gone. Deleted. "Lovely." Of course, under Windows, one never knows what causes a problem, but I did not run anything else before the mwave modem. [2] I made an earlier backup of my hard disk using pkzip. Unfortunately, for some reason (probably the fact that PC-DOS 7 is different from MS-DOS 6), it failed to include directory information. So, I spent the last couple of hours piecing back together the windows\system directory. More "lovely." Incidentally, on startup, I now get a window with "MWME0001:MWave Modem Internal Error. Primary Code:4, Secondary Code:0, file mwmparse.c. Line: 1561." /ivo welch From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 06:19:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06426; Thu, 23 Nov 95 06:19:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05645; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 06:18:41 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 06:17:43 -0500 Received: from estgtw.estec.esa.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05582; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 06:17:40 -0500 Received: by estgtw.estec.esa.nl (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA08303; Thu, 23 Nov 95 12:17:37 +0100 Received: from 666.estec.esa.nl by bcops5.estec.esa.nl via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id MAA01615; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:41:35 -0800 Received: by 666.estec.esa.nl with Microsoft Mail id <01BAB99D.5368EFA0@666.estec.esa.nl>; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:15:06 +-100 Message-Id: <01BAB99D.5368EFA0@666.estec.esa.nl> From: Damon Randall To: "'Thinkpad'" Subject: 750c & PCMCIA Modem... Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:15:02 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi.. Can anyone help with this; Trying to configure thinkpad 750c with IBM PCMCIA High Speed Modem (IBM = Model Number FC3635) Can someone tell me the correct card services software for use with the = thinkpad 750c. At the moment we have the pc card director version 3.00 with Dos card = services driver 2.21 and pcmcia card services rel. 2.10 When we use the EZPLAY program the software informs me that there are = both slot 1 & 2 are empty... This is happening with any pcmcia including = IBM Ethernet cards & 3com Etherlink3 cards as well... Can anybody help? Damon Randall Mail: demon@bcops5.estec.esa.nl ISD Projects Team ESA / Estec Noordwijk The Netherlands From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 07:07:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11479; Thu, 23 Nov 95 07:07:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07696; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 07:07:18 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 07:05:24 -0500 Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07489; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 07:03:44 -0500 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:02:54 +0100 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.951123130211.416; 23 Nov 95 13:02:54 -100 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen Organization: AORG.UIB.NO To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:05:02 MET Subject: (Fwd) Re: Fuel gadget under Win95? Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Reply-to: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:03:44 > Windows Fuel tool from the Thinkpad Utilities disk....it seems to have > trouble reading the state of the battery. I have the same problem with the latest "fuelwin.exe" under WFW 3.11 on my old (?) TP 750C. I had to reinstall the old (1993) version, and it works. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 18:04:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27451; Thu, 23 Nov 95 18:04:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12300; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 17:57:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 17:53:00 -0500 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11984; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 17:52:58 -0500 Received: from pm-mhc2-26.coastalnet.com by abaco.coastalnet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29435; Thu, 23 Nov 95 17:52:01 EST Date: Thu, 23 Nov 95 17:51:59 EST Message-Id: <9511232252.AA29435@abaco.coastalnet.com> X-Sender: cn2223@abaco.coastalnet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Capt. Dick Collins" Subject: tp760C/CD owners pls rpt First: Thanks to keith Moore & all others who make this "list" group GO Second: Retired from Navy & UAL as Capt. 12 yrs ago & started our inn . We have used org tp700 for last 3 years; closet & hard drive full-- so considering upgrade to "First Class" with tp760C/CD series. Third: All "in the field" results with this series will be very helpful to us; as well as others who are looking at this new unit. Sincere Thanks Capt. Dick Captains' Quarters of Beaufort 315 Ann St. Beaufort, NC. 28516 ph 1-919-728-7711 & 1-800-659-7111 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 19:54:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00242; Thu, 23 Nov 95 19:54:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17187; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:51:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:50:32 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17073; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:50:29 -0500 Received: from ppp-jesse (chum-26.ppp.hooked.net [204.212.195.26]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA12633 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 16:50:17 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 16:50:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199511240050.QAA12633@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Thinkpad Mailing List From: jesse montrose Subject: RFR (request for rumors?) This has been asked before, but I'm still curious.. I have a 755, and had planned to go to a 760, but am loath to take on the additional weight. I'd love to switch to the 701 form factor, any rumors about the next incarnation of the butterfly? ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 20:11:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00399; Thu, 23 Nov 95 20:11:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16718; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:40:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:37:38 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16594; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:37:32 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA09611; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 11:37:15 +1100 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA07217; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 11:37:11 +1100 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 11:37:11 +1100 (EST) To: "Capt. Dick Collins" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tp760C/CD owners pls rpt In-Reply-To: <9511232252.AA29435@abaco.coastalnet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII be good if tp760c/cd experiences would be posted. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 22:06:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10673; Thu, 23 Nov 95 22:06:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23679; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 21:53:30 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 21:50:54 -0500 Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23470; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 21:50:50 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by alster.port.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA10339; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 10:51:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 10:51:23 -0500 (EST) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net Cc: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: RFR (request for rumors?) In-Reply-To: <199511240050.QAA12633@mom.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 23 Nov 1995, jesse montrose wrote: > This has been asked before, but I'm still curious.. I have a 755, and had > planned to go to a 760, but am loath to take on the additional weight. > > I'd love to switch to the 701 form factor, any rumors about the next > incarnation of the butterfly? Rumor is 5-pound, 1" thick ..no Butterfly keyboard http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 22:43:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12431; Thu, 23 Nov 95 22:43:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26018; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:33:04 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:31:49 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25823; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:31:47 -0500 Received: from ppp-jesse (tuna-46.ppp.hooked.net [204.212.195.174]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA24784 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:31:36 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:31:36 -0800 Message-Id: <199511240331.TAA24784@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Thinkpad Mailing List From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: RFR (request for rumors?) At 10:51 AM 11/24/95 -0500, retsla wrote: >On Thu, 23 Nov 1995, jesse montrose wrote: >> I'd love to switch to the 701 form factor, any rumors about the next >> incarnation of the butterfly? > >Rumor is 5-pound, 1" thick ..no Butterfly keyboard Bummer, but thanks.. does that mean more along the lines of the 500? That surprises me, I thought the butterfly keyboard had been well received. Jesse (big hands) Montrose ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 24 08:19:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15776; Fri, 24 Nov 95 08:19:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04753; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 08:18:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 24 Nov 1995 08:16:25 -0500 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04555; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 08:16:22 -0500 Received: from hac016.ep.hess.com (ottoman@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA24824; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 07:14:36 -0600 (CST) Received: by hac016.ep.hess.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BABA3C.AE9C6880@hac016.ep.hess.com>; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 07:15:49 -0600 Message-Id: <01BABA3C.AE9C6880@hac016.ep.hess.com> From: "Otto J. Helweg" To: "'Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson)'" , "'tp750@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Sound, Games, and Win95 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 07:13:26 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With the v.2.0 drivers, sound seems to be stable with Windows 95 and = Doom. But I installed the drivers both in the old DOS mode and Win95 = mode. And I'm running Doom in the old DOS mode (F8 out of Win95 = bootup..... but I'm also setup for dualboot). -otto ---------- From: Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson)[SMTP:Chris.Liljenstolpe@ssds.com] Sent: Thursday, November 23, 1995 12:26 AM To: Michael Verne/VENTANA; tp750 Subject: Sound, Games, and Win95 Greetings, I have a 755CE with the v2.0 MWave code, and I have some = questions. Sound works most of the time, however, I can not get it working with the latest doom engine (or any doom engine), but it will work with Heritic. = Any clues? Regards, -+Chris ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe = ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd. Suite = 993 business driven Bloomington, MN 55437;=20 technology solutions 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Um Yah = Yah! =20 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 24 08:50:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17121; Fri, 24 Nov 95 08:50:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12666; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 03:44:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 24 Nov 1995 03:37:18 -0500 Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11873; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 03:37:00 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by alster.port.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA10543; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 15:34:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 15:34:04 -0500 (EST) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net Cc: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: RFR (request for rumors?) In-Reply-To: <199511240331.TAA24784@mom.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 23 Nov 1995, jesse montrose wrote: > At 10:51 AM 11/24/95 -0500, retsla wrote: > >On Thu, 23 Nov 1995, jesse montrose wrote: > >> I'd love to switch to the 701 form factor, any rumors about the next > >> incarnation of the butterfly? > > > >Rumor is 5-pound, 1" thick ..no Butterfly keyboard > > Bummer, but thanks.. > > does that mean more along the lines of the 500? That surprises me, I > thought the butterfly keyboard had been well received. PC week says, "IBM will release early next year a 5-pound, 1-inch-thick unit that sports an Intel Corp. Pentium processor, a 12.1-inch display, and an external floppy drive..." 1" thick is -really- thin .....like the DEC Hi-Lite Ultra ...or whatever it's called... And... "IBM is also considering incorporating into new notebooks in 1996 a 13.3-inch display made by Display Technologies..." ....aieee http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 24 09:04:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17449; Fri, 24 Nov 95 09:04:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07268; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 09:04:06 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 24 Nov 1995 09:03:10 -0500 Received: from hk.super.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07108; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 09:03:06 -0500 From: Received: from is3.hk.super.net (root@is3.hk.super.net [202.14.67.36]) by hk.super.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA07701 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:02:54 +0800 (HKT) Received: from 202.64.11.20 (slip227.hk.super.net [202.64.11.20]) by is3.hk.super.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA18196 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:02:52 +0800 (HKT) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:02:52 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <199511241402.WAA18196@is3.hk.super.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP750c Battery To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Does anyone knwo a good place/price for a IBM Thinkpad battery? Thanks Leung ltkwok@hk.super.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 24 13:14:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07368; Fri, 24 Nov 95 13:14:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21840; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 13:12:18 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 24 Nov 1995 13:08:58 -0500 Received: from PEAK.ORG by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21584; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 13:08:55 -0500 Received: from leejim.peak.org ([198.68.20.35]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.12/8.6.7) with SMTP id KAA06762 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 10:08:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199511241808.KAA06762@PEAK.ORG> Sender: From: "Jim Lee" Organization: Diamond Quest Consulting To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 10:05:40 -8 Subject: Re: TP750c Battery Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) > From: > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:02:52 +0800 (HKT) > Subject: TP750c Battery > To: tp750@cs.utk.edu > Does anyone knwo a good place/price for a IBM Thinkpad battery? > > Thanks > Leung > ltkwok@hk.super.net > Well, a good place for one would be in a Thinkpad.. :-) (Sorry, couldn't resist). Seriously, what type do you want (NiCd, NiMH, LiIon), and for what model Thinkpad? ---------- Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 25 00:55:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14498; Sat, 25 Nov 95 00:55:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00652; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 00:54:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 25 Nov 1995 00:48:32 -0500 Received: from denver.ssds.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00462; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 00:48:16 -0500 Received: from freke.ssds.com (rem_den29.ssds.com [134.127.122.29]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id WAA07118; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:46:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199511250546.WAA07118@denver.ssds.com> X-Sender: cds@denver.ssds.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 23:45:45 -0600 To: "Jim Lee" , tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson)" Subject: Re: TP750c Battery Greetings, I am also interested in either a NiCad or LiIon for a 755CE. Who has the best price? Regards, -=Chris At 10:05 95/11/24 -8, Jim Lee wrote: >> From: >> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:02:52 +0800 (HKT) >> Subject: TP750c Battery >> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu > >> Does anyone knwo a good place/price for a IBM Thinkpad battery? >> >> Thanks >> Leung >> ltkwok@hk.super.net >> > >Well, a good place for one would be in a Thinkpad.. :-) (Sorry, >couldn't resist). Seriously, what type do you want (NiCd, NiMH, >LiIon), and for what model Thinkpad? >---------- >Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting >leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St >http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 > > ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd. Suite 993 business driven Bloomington, MN 55437; technology solutions 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Um Yah Yah! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 25 11:38:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19612; Sat, 25 Nov 95 11:38:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07590; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 11:35:04 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 25 Nov 1995 11:28:19 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07200; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 11:28:09 -0500 Received: from castor.usc.edu (whittle@castor.usc.edu [128.125.253.170]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA16018 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 08:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by castor.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA09497 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 08:27:55 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511251627.IAA09497@castor.usc.edu> Subject: 750C Memory & TV Tuner To: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 08:27:55 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems I have a buyer for my TP 750C, but the person is particularly interested in lots of memory expandiblity. I've never known personally about memory cards bigger than 16 MB in the 750, but I don't know that a 32 MB card was available and worked. Does anyone? Also, if I may... I have a TV Tuner module available for anyone who is interested. It works with (as I understand) all of the 75X series ThinkPads. If you would like it, please E-mail me with an offer and we can discuss. Many thanks! ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 25 14:58:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00027; Sat, 25 Nov 95 14:58:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17153; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 14:57:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 25 Nov 1995 14:53:44 -0500 Received: from odyssee.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16902; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 14:53:39 -0500 Received: from pool6_8.odyssee.net by odyssee.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27352; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 14:53:34 -0500 Received: by pool6_8.odyssee.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BABB45.6F0D7380@pool6_8.odyssee.net>; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 14:50:59 -0500 Message-Id: <01BABB45.6F0D7380@pool6_8.odyssee.net> From: "A. Di Meglio" To: "'tp750@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Where are the new MWave drivers for Windows 95 ? Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 14:50:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know the new Mwave drivers for Win95 are, apart from Compuserve. Regards Neil ! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 25 20:05:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24726; Sat, 25 Nov 95 20:05:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03112; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 20:04:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 25 Nov 1995 20:01:37 -0500 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02966; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 20:01:23 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 20:01 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Msg of Sat, 25 Nov 1995 08:27:55 -0800 (PST) from Randal Whittle Subject: 750C Memory & TV Tuner It seems I have a buyer for my TP 750C, but the person is particularly interested in lots of memory expandiblity. I've never known personally about memory cards bigger than 16 MB in the 750, but I don't know that a 32 MB card was available and worked. Does anyone? Kingston makes such a card, and we've been using them in 750C and 755C models with great success. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 08:56:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23601; Mon, 27 Nov 95 08:56:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24765; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:54:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:46:51 -0500 Received: from hk.super.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24052; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:46:47 -0500 From: Received: from is3.hk.super.net (root@is3.hk.super.net [202.14.67.36]) by hk.super.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA25670 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:46:41 +0800 (HKT) Received: from 202.64.12.8 (slip279.hk.super.net [202.64.12.8]) by is3.hk.super.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id VAA27377 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:46:40 +0800 (HKT) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:46:40 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <199511271346.VAA27377@is3.hk.super.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Accessories To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Odes any know what would be a good place (& price) to get accessories for the TP750? Of particular interest is an extra battery & power supply. Thanks in advance. Leung ltkwok@hk.super.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 09:46:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26908; Mon, 27 Nov 95 09:46:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29253; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:44:58 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:43:47 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28747; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:40:31 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Mon, 27 Nov 95 15:37:06 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:37:03 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I need a 16MB RAM-upgrade (DIMM) for the TP755CX. IMB's RAM is quite expensive so I'd prefer to go for the cheaper version. Do you have good or bad experiences with particular brands? Anything I should be aware of? Thanks Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 10:03:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27851; Mon, 27 Nov 95 10:03:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00991; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:01:13 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:58:27 -0500 Received: from is.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00557; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:58:24 -0500 Received: from KLENNER.NR.RES.NYU.EDU by is.nyu.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/23Sep94-1121PM) id AA10891; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:58:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:58:18 -0500 Message-Id: <9511271458.AA10891@is.nyu.edu> X-Sender: mdk1143@is.nyu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Klenner Subject: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx Hi folks, My venerable 360ce still chugs away and does what I need it to do just wonderfully, but I need a second machine now. I'm in the immediate market for a ThinkPad 755CE or possibly a 755CX. If anyone here needs to part with such a machine at a fair price, please let me know about your configuration and asking price, ASAP. In the meantime, I have the follwing question: Are ThinkPad hard drives hot-swappable? I am considering getting a second internal drive as opposed to an external drive or removable media drive, but if I were to pick up an 810 or so, would I need to install an operating system and all, or could I boot from my primary drive and hot-swap in the second? My feeling is, probably not. Thanks guys. --- Michael Klenner mdk1143@is.nyu.edu mklenner@pacificnet.net http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 --- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 11:52:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19808; Mon, 27 Nov 95 11:52:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12385; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:49:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:45:33 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11935; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:45:29 -0500 Received: from [128.125.224.83] (comserv-i-43.usc.edu [128.125.224.115]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id IAA01789; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:45:13 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:53:27 -0800 To: Michael Klenner , TP750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx At 9:58 AM 11/27/95, Michael Klenner wrote: >Are ThinkPad hard drives hot-swappable? I am considering getting a second >internal drive as opposed to an external drive or removable media drive, but >if I were to pick up an 810 or so, would I need to install an operating >system and all, or could I boot from my primary drive and hot-swap in the >second? My feeling is, probably not. I'm 99% certain there is no way you can do this. You'd have to shut down the system, insert the new drive, and boot off of the new drive. Since the whole command processor is geared to what it sees at boot time, switching that around afterwards would be a real problem. Even removable drives like a SyQuest require that it *not* be the boot drive if you intend to switch cartridges around while running. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 12:01:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20227; Mon, 27 Nov 95 12:01:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13179; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:57:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:55:50 -0500 Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12929; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:55:40 -0500 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03522; Mon, 27 Nov 95 10:28:11 CST Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 10:28:09 CST Message-Id: <9511271628.AA03522@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Joseph C. Wilson" Subject: Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? At 03:37 PM 11/27/95 +0100, you wrote: >I need a 16MB RAM-upgrade (DIMM) for the TP755CX. IMB's RAM is quite expensive >so I'd prefer to go for the cheaper version. Do you have good or bad >experiences with particular brands? Anything I should be aware of? > Be sure you get the DIMM Adapter (IBM PC Direct Part# 84G2151, $105.00 (US) as of about 11/1/95). To the best of my knowledge, there are no "ThinkPad Proven" DIMM vendors at this time. We are ordering some memory upgrades for our 755cx's and elected to go w/ IBM despite the price premium. Our feeling was the premium is worth the lack of any possible incompatibilities/problems on such a sensitive part of our systems. You might also want to look at the IC-DRAM memory modules as they can be more easily found and do not require an adapter. Downside is that should you want to upgrade at a later time you have to replace the entire module. Good luck Joe Wilson josephw@beta.inc.net Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 13:19:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25266; Mon, 27 Nov 95 13:19:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20130; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:16:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:11:40 -0500 Received: from denver.ssds.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19541; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:11:32 -0500 Received: from freke.ssds.com ([134.127.38.53]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id LAA14371; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:09:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199511271809.LAA14371@denver.ssds.com> X-Sender: cds@denver.ssds.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 12:08:23 -0600 To: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle), Michael Klenner , TP750@cs.utk.edu From: "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson)" Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx Greetings, Actually, I can put the nail in the coffin. You can *not* hot-swap the boot drive on the Thinkpad. If you try, there is a good chance that either the drive or the thinkpad will require service. Regards, -=Chris At 08:53 95/11/27 -0800, Randy Whittle wrote: >At 9:58 AM 11/27/95, Michael Klenner wrote: > >>Are ThinkPad hard drives hot-swappable? I am considering getting a second >>internal drive as opposed to an external drive or removable media drive, but >>if I were to pick up an 810 or so, would I need to install an operating >>system and all, or could I boot from my primary drive and hot-swap in the >>second? My feeling is, probably not. > > I'm 99% certain there is no way you can do this. You'd have to >shut down the system, insert the new drive, and boot off of the new drive. > > Since the whole command processor is geared to what it sees at boot >time, switching that around afterwards would be a real problem. > > Even removable drives like a SyQuest require that it *not* be the >boot drive if you intend to switch cartridges around while running. > >----- ____________________________ >Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | >USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | > "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| > Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- > -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner > > > > ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd. Suite 993 business driven Bloomington, MN 55437; technology solutions 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Um Yah Yah! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 14:47:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00184; Mon, 27 Nov 95 14:47:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28397; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:44:58 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:42:22 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28059; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:42:09 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA02966; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:42:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:36:51 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson)" Cc: Randy Whittle , Michael Klenner , TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx In-Reply-To: <199511271809.LAA14371@denver.ssds.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson) wrote: > Greetings, > > Actually, I can put the nail in the coffin. You can *not* hot-swap > the boot drive on the Thinkpad. If you try, there is a good chance that > either the drive or the thinkpad will require service. Indeed. These drives are simply IDE drives, and can no more be live disconnected than the one in a desktop machine can. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 15:32:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05118; Mon, 27 Nov 95 15:32:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03801; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:24:41 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:22:49 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03681; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:22:46 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA20536 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:22:35 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2b7.32.19951127202233.00a52db4@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b7 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:22:33 -0600 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: 755CD... anything bad? Hi folks, we are considering purchasing a 755CD. we already have 755CE, CX, and lots of 750Cs machines. are than any bad things about the 755CD we should be aware of? do all the extra goodies (like CD-ROM, video-in/out and MIDI, etc) all work well under Windows95? is a 4X CD-ROM available (can you buy a 760 replacement CD-ROM and stick it into the 755CD ultrabay?)? can it take a lithium battery? is the battery life comparible to a 755CE? thanks, Todd --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 16:58:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12923; Mon, 27 Nov 95 16:58:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13136; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:55:57 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:52:19 -0500 Received: from PEAK.ORG by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12872; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:52:14 -0500 Received: from leejim.peak.org ([198.68.20.35]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.12/8.6.7) with SMTP id NAA25143 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:51:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199511272151.NAA25143@PEAK.ORG> Sender: From: "Jim Lee" Organization: Diamond Quest Consulting To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:54:16 -8 Subject: (Fwd) Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: Self To: "Joseph C. Wilson" Subject: Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:49:40 > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 10:28:09 CST > To: tp750@cs.utk.edu > From: "Joseph C. Wilson" > Subject: Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? > At 03:37 PM 11/27/95 +0100, you wrote: > >I need a 16MB RAM-upgrade (DIMM) for the TP755CX. IMB's RAM is quite expensive > >so I'd prefer to go for the cheaper version. Do you have good or bad > >experiences with particular brands? Anything I should be aware of? > > > > > Be sure you get the DIMM Adapter (IBM PC Direct Part# 84G2151, $105.00 (US) > as of about 11/1/95). To the best of my knowledge, there are no "ThinkPad > Proven" DIMM vendors at this time. We are ordering some memory upgrades for > our 755cx's and elected to go w/ IBM despite the price premium. Our feeling > was the premium is worth the lack of any possible incompatibilities/problems > on such a sensitive part of our systems. > > You might also want to look at the IC-DRAM memory modules as they can be > more easily found and do not require an adapter. Downside is that should > you want to upgrade at a later time you have to replace the entire module. > > Good luck > > Joe Wilson > josephw@beta.inc.net > Milwaukee, WI > > Sorry, the DIMM memory modules do not work in the 755CX. I ordered and received one from IBM PC-Direct (16MB). Although it fits physically, the DIMM modules are non-parity and the 755CX needs parity memory (or vice-versa, can't remember). When I discovered this, I called IBM and spoke with one of the design engineers who said this was indeed true, so I returned the DIMM for a 16MB DRAM card instead. IBM has (supposedly) since updated the sales/order system to let the sales people know that 755CX<->DIMM are incompatible. ---------- Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 17:10:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14395; Mon, 27 Nov 95 17:10:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14279; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:06:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:06:20 -0500 Received: from next.lbs.lon.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14150; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:06:13 -0500 Received: by next.lbs.lon.ac.uk (NX5.67e/NeXT-1.0(KJW-19Apr90)) id AA07735; Mon, 27 Nov 95 22:07:07 GMT Message-Id: <9511272207.AA07735@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ivo Welch Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 22:07:07 GMT To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? Reply-To: ivo@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk References: <199511272151.NAA25143@PEAK.ORG> I am running a Kingston 16MB RAM card in my TP 755CX (looks like a credit card). It had a different Thinkpad model number (350?) written on the box, but the sales person assured me that it also worked in the 755CX---and I have been running fine with it for some weeks now. By the way: I just had my first int'l warranty call to IBM. (I bought the machine in the US, but I am now in the UK.) My 800*600 display went out. They fixed it from Friday 5pm to Monday 10am. I am pleased with this service. /ivo welch From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 20:30:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07513; Mon, 27 Nov 95 20:30:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29334; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:29:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:27:20 -0500 Received: from moore.sr.unh.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29105; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:27:18 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by moore.sr.unh.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA00907; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:26:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:26:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew M. Moore" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: MWAVE modem under Linux Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been thrilled with the performance of the 28.8k DSP modem running under OS/2 and Windows on my 755CE. If it has not been done already, I would like to write an MWAVE modem driver for Linux. Where can I find a programmer's guide to the MWAVE modem, or is it so proprietary that I should just be happy with what I've got? -Drew (please reply to moore@moore.sr.unh.edu, as I am not yet on the list) Thanks. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 20:45:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08239; Mon, 27 Nov 95 20:45:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00574; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:43:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:43:17 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00472; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:43:13 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.101] (comserv-f-29.usc.edu [128.125.223.101]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id RAA14914; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:42:57 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:51:13 -0800 To: xanadu@radix.net From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu At 2:39 PM 11/27/95, kevin king wrote: >> >Are ThinkPad hard drives hot-swappable? > >> I'm 99% certain there is no way you can do this. You'd have to >> shut down the system, insert the new drive, and boot off of the new drive. > >Does this mean that you CAN swap drives if you boot off of a floppy? >Just curious. > >kevin Good point. But as Don Whiteside pointed out, these are just standard IDE drives and by definition can't be hot-swapped. However, if you booted off a floppy and had a SyQuest drive that was your otherwise primary drive, yes, you could easily swap out a SyQuest cartridge for another one--as long as you didn't boot off the SyQuest. But then, a removable like a SyQuest is designed to do that. IDE isn't. Though I know SyQuest has IDE versions. I don't know if you can do it with those--I'm only familiar with SCSI. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 21:10:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09747; Mon, 27 Nov 95 21:10:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02615; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:09:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:07:46 -0500 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02474; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:07:42 -0500 Received: from ts-b.bcc.ac.uk by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:57:52 +0000 From: ucklw08 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:57:51 GMT Message-Id: <50662.9511280157@ts-b.bcc.ac.uk> To: whittle@usc.edu, xanadu@radix.net Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Actually they are EIDE which are a bit different from IDE -- but your main point about them not being hot swappable is stull true. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 01:53:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29141; Tue, 28 Nov 95 01:53:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22009; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:48:39 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:44:55 -0500 Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21778; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:44:53 -0500 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01HY5KF0I9HS005KKM@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:44:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:44:53 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Modem Won't Dial Phone Card Number To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01HY5KF0J2FM005KKM@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" X-Vms-Cc: ANDRSN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi-- The modem that came with my 701 C--supposedly a fine road warrior machine!-- can't dial using a phone card such as sprint. I'm using a REXX script under OS2 with dialcmd = 'atdt5551212' and this works--but if expanded to dialcmd = 'atdt18008778000,,xxxxxxxxxx,,xxxxxxxxxxxxxx' it won't even begin dialing; the first set of x's here is 0 plus area code plus number, the second set is my sprint card number. If I break this up into two sets, it dials only the second set. Has anyone solved this problem? Same result in dialing using Windows and Trumpet, where the number is in the trumpsck.ini file. Thanks-- Annelise From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 03:14:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07388; Tue, 28 Nov 95 03:14:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27724; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 03:13:35 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 03:10:14 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27396; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 03:10:00 -0500 Received: by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp; id RAA28881; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:09:12 +0900 Received: from unknown(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (g3.0.3) id xma028872; Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:08:58 +0900 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id RAA21667; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:09:29 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id RAA15756; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:08:57 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id RAA04838; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:08:56 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:07:54 +0900 Message-Id: <9511280807.AA00426@shibuya.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: moore@moore.sr.unh.edu Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: "Andrew M. Moore"'s message of Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:26:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: MWAVE modem under Linux Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> If it has not been done already, I would like to write an MWAVE modem driver |> for Linux. Where can I find a programmer's guide to the MWAVE modem, or is |> it so proprietary that I should just be happy with what I've got? I thought about this myself. But considering how much of the modem is software, it's likely to be difficult to take care if it all yourself. But I can tell you I'd sure be interested to be able to use it (and the other DSP devices) under Linux! |> (please reply to moore@moore.sr.unh.edu... This the UNH in Durham? Fall always reminds me of UNH -- I was there in the late 80s. Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 07:24:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20865; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:24:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19855; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:20:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:17:46 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19696; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:16:46 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 28 Nov 95 13:16:12 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: (Fwd) Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:16:08 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text > > > Sorry, the DIMM memory modules do not work in the 755CX. I ordered > and received one from IBM PC-Direct (16MB). Although it fits > physically, the DIMM modules are non-parity and the 755CX needs > parity memory (or vice-versa, can't remember). When I discovered > this, I called IBM and spoke with one of the design engineers who > said this was indeed true, so I returned the DIMM for a 16MB DRAM > card instead. IBM has (supposedly) since updated the sales/order > system to let the sales people know that 755CX<->DIMM are > incompatible. > ---------- > Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting > leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St > http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 > Does this mean that there is no way to upgrade RAM in the 755CX step by step? IBM offers 32MB DRAM-Cards but if one uses DRAM one can't use more than one card at a time which means that either I buy the 32MB now or I buy 16MB now which I can't use later if I need 32 MB - is it really like this? Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 07:46:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22326; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:46:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA21212; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:44:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:43:59 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA21131; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:43:52 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 28 Nov 95 13:43:41 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: (Fwd) Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:43:40 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text > Sorry, the DIMM memory modules do not work in the 755CX. I ordered > and received one from IBM PC-Direct (16MB). Although it fits > physically, the DIMM modules are non-parity and the 755CX needs > parity memory (or vice-versa, can't remember). When I discovered > this, I called IBM and spoke with one of the design engineers who > said this was indeed true, so I returned the DIMM for a 16MB DRAM > card instead. IBM has (supposedly) since updated the sales/order > system to let the sales people know that 755CX<->DIMM are > incompatible. > ---------- > Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting > leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St > http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 > I just phoned the German IBM PC-Direct and they told me I can use the same DIMM-modules as in, e.g., the 755CE (but I could NOT use DRAM from a 755CE machine...). It's been my experience that the IBM sales people normally don't know much about hardware. Is it possible that they changed something in the 755CX such that you can use DIMM? Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 09:13:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28325; Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:13:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28187; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:11:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:07:03 -0500 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27683; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:06:58 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:06 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Cc: moore@moore.sr.unh.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:07:54 +0900 from Jeffrey Friedl Subject: MWAVE modem under Linux |> If it has not been done already, I would like to write an MWAVE |> modem driver for Linux. Where can I find a programmer's guide |> to the MWAVE modem, or is it so proprietary that I should just |> be happy with what I've got? I thought about this myself. But considering how much of the modem is software, it's likely to be difficult to take care if it all yourself. But I can tell you I'd sure be interested to be able to use it (and the other DSP devices) under Linux! I read a message about this recently on one of the Linux newsgroups; sorry I forget which one. The upshot is that IBM considers the information proprietary, but the poster is organizing a campaign to get them to release it anyway. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 09:57:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00070; Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:57:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02534; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:55:50 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:53:46 -0500 Received: from peritus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02176; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:53:42 -0500 Received: from tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com [199.26.191.60]) by peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.12/Peritus-3.0) with ESMTP id JAA23774; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:48:36 -0500 Received: from localhost by tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.9/Peritus-2.0) id JAA17407; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:54:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199511281454.JAA17407@tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com> To: Annelise Anderson Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Modem Won't Dial Phone Card Number In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:44:53 PST." <01HY5KF0J2FM005KKM@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:54:01 -0500 From: Don Markuson [Annelise Anderson writes:] -> The modem that came with my 701 C--supposedly a fine road warrior machine!-- -> can't dial using a phone card such as sprint. -> -> I'm using a REXX script under OS2 with -> dialcmd = 'atdt5551212' -> and this works--but if expanded to -> dialcmd = 'atdt18008778000,,xxxxxxxxxx,,xxxxxxxxxxxxxx' -> it won't even begin dialing; the first set of x's here is 0 plus -> area code plus number, the second set is my sprint card number. -> -> If I break this up into two sets, it dials only the second set. -> -> Has anyone solved this problem? The problem is that the modem only allows a string of around 30-33 characters after the ATDT, and if there are more, it spits back ERROR instead of dialing. I recall finding the limit documented somewhere where I didn't expect to find it; I don't think it was mentioned in the on-line MWave read-me or Modem Reference. One solution is to break this into two, but you have to be clever about how to do that, so the modem doesn't wait for carrier after the first. To do this, use a semicolon after the first set of digits by sending: "ATDT ...1st-25-or-so-chars... ;" on one line (modem will respond with "OK" after it has completed dialing these, then "ATDT ...rest-of-number..." on 2nd line (modem will wait for connection). Since there will be an implicit second-or-so pause between lines, it's handy to line this up to replace a sequence of "," pauses in your string. In a Rexx dialscript, this might be implemented something like: /* Assumes dialcmd contains just the numbers to dial and does NOT begin */ /* with "ATDT", but "ATDT" is the string to send to the modem for dialing. */ do while (length(dialcmd) > 25) dialnow = substr(dialcmd, 1, 25) dialcmd = substr(dialcmd, 26) call send 'ATDT' || dialnow || ';' || cr call waitfor 'OK', 10 ; call flush_receive 'echo' /* must account for modem's S11 value for tone dial time here; */ /* must be much more patient for pulse dialing! */ end call send 'ATDT' || dialcmd || cr call waitfor 'CONNECT' , 60 if RC = 1 then do call lineout , '!!! Number failed to answer or connect reliably.' exit 1 end call waitfor crlf , 2 I have NOT tested the above...it's just off-the-cuff. I used a similar scheme in a Trumpet Winsock dialscript a while back with reasonable success. Good luck! ..Don Markuson dmarkuson@peritus.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 10:02:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00103; Tue, 28 Nov 95 10:02:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03100; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:01:00 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:59:32 -0500 Received: from dilbert.daily.umn.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02767; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:59:29 -0500 Received: by dilbert.daily.umn.edu (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI.AUTO) for TP750@cs.utk.edu id IAA21649; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:54:23 -0600 From: "George Niece" Message-Id: <9511280854.ZM21647@dilbert.daily.umn.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:54:18 -0600 In-Reply-To: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) "Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx" (Nov 27, 5:51pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 6apr95 MediaMail) To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You cannot hot swap the internal drives in a thinkpad, any model. -- George Niece, IS Manager for the Minnesota Daily niece@dilbert.daily.umn.edu --- http://www.daily.umn.edu/~niece/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 12:24:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12881; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:24:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15939; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:19:08 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:16:54 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15737; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:16:43 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA19349; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:17:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:11:25 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: Randy Whittle Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Randy Whittle wrote: > At 2:39 PM 11/27/95, kevin king wrote: > But as Don Whiteside pointed out, these are just standard IDE > drives and by definition can't be hot-swapped. > > However, if you booted off a floppy and had a SyQuest drive that > was your otherwise primary drive, yes, you could easily swap out a SyQuest > cartridge for another one--as long as you didn't boot off the SyQuest. > > But then, a removable like a SyQuest is designed to do that. > IDE isn't. > Though I know SyQuest has IDE versions. I don't know if you can do > it with those--I'm only familiar with SCSI. It's a somewhat different issue. If we disconnect an IDE drive, we remove it from the line. If you pop the cartridge on a Syquest IDE drive, the physical decive is still connected, but the media has been removed. Booting off the device isn't the major issue - you can deal with those issues. More important is if the device is checked by the OS to see if there has been a disk change. Floppies are supposed to do this, Syquest drives do as well. However, most OSes don't check "fixed" drives for change lines. That's why there's usually a driver of some sort for those Syquests. You can use them w/o the dirver, but only if you don't change carts while the machine is on. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 12:25:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12888; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:25:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16560; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:24:04 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:23:17 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16469; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:23:14 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA19396; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:18:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:12:29 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: ucklw08 Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx In-Reply-To: <50662.9511280157@ts-b.bcc.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, ucklw08 wrote: > Actually they are EIDE which are a bit different from IDE -- but your main > point about them not being hot swappable is stull true. I think 750s w/o some of the more recent (last year or so) BIOS upgrades would still be IDE... From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 12:39:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14565; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:39:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17862; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:36:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:35:37 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17672; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:35:28 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA27502; Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:35:07 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00376; Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:33:50 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:33:49 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: MWAVE modem under Linux In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit On Nov. 28 95, 06:06 PST, "Chris Hanson" wrote: > I read a message about this recently on one of the Linux newsgroups; > sorry I forget which one. The upshot is that IBM considers the > information proprietary, but the poster is organizing a campaign > to get them to release it anyway. I sure hope so. I'd like to see both a modem driver and a sound driver under NeXTSTEP, and I'm hoping if someone can do it under Linux, it should be possible to port to NeXTSTEP. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 13:34:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18150; Tue, 28 Nov 95 13:34:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22388; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:28:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:26:11 -0500 Received: from firewall.ceco.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22168; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:26:06 -0500 From: Received: from ceco.ceco.com ([130.197.8.140]) by firewall.ceco.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA13441 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:25:18 -0600 Received: from ccmail.ceco.com (ccmailout.ceco.com) by ceco.ceco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06853; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:24:41 CST Received: from ccMail by ccmail.ceco.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA817582915; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:17:13 CST Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:17:13 CST Message-Id: <9510288175.AA817582915@ccmail.ceco.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Using a 701C overseas Hi folks, Just got back from a vacation in Greece and thought I'd let you know that 1) Using the default AC adapter with a simple plus converter worked fine, 2) Using the internal modem worked fine, 3) Xray machines didn't do any noticeable damage, and 4) I had a great trip! :^) Dan -- Daniel A. Kirkdorffer | "Though the course may change sometimes Email: e#kirkd@ccmail.ceco.com | rivers always reach the sea." R. Plant DanKirkd@aol.com +----------------------------------------- WWW: http://users.aol.com/dankirkd/danhome.html From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 13:35:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18164; Tue, 28 Nov 95 13:35:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22776; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:32:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:31:46 -0500 Received: from cs.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22663; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:31:43 -0500 Received: from jones.cs.brown.edu (jones.cs.brown.edu [128.148.38.144]) by cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/Bullwinkle1.1) with ESMTP id NAA03727; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:31:36 -0500 (EST) From: Sridhar Ramaswamy Received: (sr@localhost) by jones.cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/BrownCS1.0) id NAA04628; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:31:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:31:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511281831.NAA04628@jones.cs.brown.edu> To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Modem Won't Dial Phone Card Number One workaround to your problem is for the rexx script to do whatever it needs to and ignore the arguments that it gets completely. For example, you might have lines in the rexx script to dial the 800 number, pause, dial the phone number, pause and then dial the calling card number. This is a problem only if you have to change these numbers frequently which I assume is not the case. In my rexx script, for example, I completely ignore the username and password because they don't make any sense in the context that I am suing them. Good luck, --Sridhar From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 13:37:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18193; Tue, 28 Nov 95 13:37:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22905; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:34:15 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:33:18 -0500 Received: from cs.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22793; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:33:16 -0500 Received: from jones.cs.brown.edu (jones.cs.brown.edu [128.148.38.144]) by cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/Bullwinkle1.1) with ESMTP id NAA03786 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:33:14 -0500 (EST) From: Sridhar Ramaswamy Received: (sr@localhost) by jones.cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/BrownCS1.0) id NAA04633 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:33:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:33:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511281833.NAA04633@jones.cs.brown.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: two hard drives for thinkpad 755cx Is it possible for me to get rid of the floppy drive and put another ide hard disk into the thinkpad? A cursory look indicates that I need some sort of adapter at the very least. Anyone done this? Any advice? Thanks, --Sridhar From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 14:48:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25223; Tue, 28 Nov 95 14:48:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28747; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:40:09 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:35:53 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27919; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:35:50 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id NAA28286 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:35:34 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2b7.32.19951128193533.00a52074@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b7 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:35:33 -0600 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: two hard drives for thinkpad 755cx At 01:33 PM 11/28/95 -0500, you wrote: >Is it possible for me to get rid of the floppy drive >and put another ide hard disk into the thinkpad? A >cursory look indicates that I need some sort of adapter >at the very least. Anyone done this? Any advice? > >Thanks, >--Sridhar > you can easily do this without any adapter in the new thinkpad 760. i do not think it is possible in the other thinkpads, but if it is possible in my 755CE i would sure like to know the secret as well... --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 14:55:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25805; Tue, 28 Nov 95 14:55:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29747; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:49:04 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:44:34 -0500 Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29154; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:44:25 -0500 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA14739; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:44:10 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id OAA14972; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:44:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:44:07 -0500 (EST) From: aoster To: Todd Tannenbaum Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: two hard drives for thinkpad 755cx In-Reply-To: <2.2b7.32.19951128193533.00a52074@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Todd Tannenbaum wrote: > At 01:33 PM 11/28/95 -0500, you wrote: > >Is it possible for me to get rid of the floppy drive > >and put another ide hard disk into the thinkpad? A > >cursory look indicates that I need some sort of adapter > >at the very least. Anyone done this? Any advice? > > you can easily do this without any adapter in the new thinkpad 760. > > i do not think it is possible in the other thinkpads, but if it is possible > in my 755CE i would sure like to know the secret as well... Me too ...since I have two drives that I swap between. http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 17:16:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10875; Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:16:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13876; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:14:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:11:13 -0500 Received: from bronze.coil.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13522; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:11:10 -0500 Received: from [205.133.97.111] ([205.133.97.111]) by bronze.coil.com (8.6.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA08577 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:10:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:10:29 -0500 X-Sender: bigd@mail.coil.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: bigd@coil.com (Dave Inskeep) Subject: EMM386 error on 755C I use a 755CE at work, and have two co-workers with 755C's. Almost every time they exit Windows they recive the following message: "EMM386 has detected error #06 in an application at memory address 00B8:0B89. To minimize the chance of data loss, EMM386 has halted your computer. For more information, see the README.TXT file. To restart your computer, press Enter." This happens almost every time they exit Windows, whether or not they actually run anything. Sometimes it happens immediately, sometmes a few minutes after entering DOS. Both computers started with PC-DOS 6.x, and moved to MS-DOS 6.22, with no change. One is now back on PC-DOS, and one is still on MS-DOS. No amount of changes to CONFIG.SYS or AUTOEXEC.BAT reduces these errors, nor did swapping or removing ram cards (both have 20 meg total each). Oddly enough, my 755CE (on PC-DOS, MS-DOS/Windows wouldn't install at all) hasn't had this at all. In addition, a few older DOS apps used for PLC programming crash reliably on the 755C's, but not my CE. Is there some architectural flaw in the 755C? Any suggestions on how to stop this would be appreciated. Dave Inskeep. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "640K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.coil.com/~bigd/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 17:41:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13853; Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:41:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16284; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:37:41 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:36:04 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16014; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:36:01 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id RAA25544; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:33:39 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA1563; Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:33:54 -0800 Message-Id: <9511290133.AA1563@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id DDAEA1EA5532299585256282007B6075; Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:33:52 To: Dave Inskeep Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 28 Nov 95 17:29:17 EDT Subject: Re: EMM386 error on 755C X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....I use a 755CE at work, and have two co-workers with 755C's. Almost every time they exit Windows they recive the following message: "EMM386 has detected error #06 in an application at memory address 00B8:0B89. To minimize the chance of data loss, EMM386 has halted your computer. For more information, see the README.TXT file. To restart your computer, press Enter."...." ~~~~~ are you on a network? i saw this same message over and over on 360C's, 755CD's and a 755Cs. it was the exact symptoms you describe-- it happened almost every time i exited windows. it stopped when xircom replaced all of our ethernet cards. we use the 'credit card adapter IIps' (10BaseT) and apparently there was a thinkpad-specific problem with these cards that xircom fixed in the latest revision. they replaced 11 of them for us at no charge. i have seen it once or twice in the last few months since the replacement, but with 16 thinkpads in use, one 'error #06' per month isn't enough for me to pursue. if you're not using this card, perhaps the one you're using has a similar problem. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 20:28:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27884; Tue, 28 Nov 95 20:28:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28282; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:26:16 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:23:20 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28055; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:23:13 -0500 Received: from liv-14.rust.net by Fe3.rust.net via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id UAA07845; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:24:48 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:24:48 -0800 Message-Id: <199511290424.UAA07845@Fe3.rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: Modem Won't Dial Phone Card Number Annelise Anderson wrote: At 10:44 PM 11/27/95 -0800, you wrote: >Hi-- > >The modem that came with my 701 C--supposedly a fine road warrior machine!-- >can't dial using a phone card such as sprint. > >I'm using a REXX script under OS2 with >dialcmd = 'atdt5551212' >and this works--but if expanded to >dialcmd = 'atdt18008778000,,xxxxxxxxxx,,xxxxxxxxxxxxxx' >it won't even begin dialing; the first set of x's here is 0 plus >area code plus number, the second set is my sprint card number. > >If I break this up into two sets, it dials only the second set. > >Has anyone solved this problem? > >Same result in dialing using Windows and Trumpet, where the number >is in the trumpsck.ini file. > >Thanks-- > >Annelise > How about this for a crazy suggestion: Call your long distance carrier and tell them your problem. See if they can't set you up with a special shorter version. If they can't maybe a different carrier? To many numbers it's just a long distance phone call. Your credit cards aren't that long... B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan - billb@rust.net - http://www.rust.net/~billb - N8QPI Livonia, MI - " V e r y G o o d R o b i n " - Howard Stern =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 23:55:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11499; Tue, 28 Nov 95 23:55:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17660; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:55:08 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:52:10 -0500 Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17503; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:52:07 -0500 Received: by explorer-en.dgp.toronto.edu id <144002>; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:51:46 -0500 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: can someone send me mcifax.drv? Message-Id: <95Nov28.235146est.144002@explorer-en.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:51:36 -0500 I haven't been able to get FaxWorks to run since moving to MWAVE 2, even after installing the new faxworks voice available on ftp.pcco.ibm.com. I have tracked the error to the driver mww\faxtam\mcifax.drv. When I try to load it from the windows control panel, windows (3.1) complains and suggests I should re-install it. Since I have downloaded the MWAVE code several times, I can only conclude that this driver is corrupt in IBM's ftp distribution of Windows MWAVE 2. To test this theory out, I wonder if some kind soul would be willing to send me their (MWAVE 2) driver. Yours would have to have come from some place other than the pcco site. Odd request, I know, but the help line has not been able to help me on this. Just let me know if you're willing to help, and we can arrange for a transfer. I use unix for most day to day things, so it'd be great if you have access to uuencode. Thanks, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 01:04:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17061; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:04:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22625; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:03:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:01:39 -0500 Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22537; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:01:35 -0500 Received: from harp-08.synapse.net (harp-08.synapse.net [199.84.52.198]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id BAA05177; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:01:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511290601.BAA05177@sentinel.synapse.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: elf@dgp.toronto.edu Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:03:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: can someone send me mcifax.drv? Reply-To: phong@phsmc.synapse.net Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Eugene, > I haven't been able to get FaxWorks to run since moving to MWAVE 2, > even after installing the new faxworks voice available on > ftp.pcco.ibm.com. I have tracked the error to the driver > mww\faxtam\mcifax.drv. When I try to load it from the windows control > panel, windows (3.1) complains and suggests I should re-install it. > Since I have downloaded the MWAVE code several times, I can only > conclude that this driver is corrupt in IBM's ftp distribution of > Windows MWAVE 2. To test this theory out, I wonder if some kind soul > would be willing to send me their (MWAVE 2) driver. Yours would have > to have come from some place other than the pcco site. Odd request, I > know, but the help line has not been able to help me on this. Just let > me know if you're willing to help, and we can arrange for a transfer. > I use unix for most day to day things, so it'd be great if you have > access to uuencode. Before you start receiving numerous copies of the file(s), I think you should try to download the version from the MWave Web Site. Their URL is: http://watson.mbb.sfu.ca/ I've been using the Mwave 2.0 drivers from the IBM PCCO web site for quite some time now and have not experienced any difficulties. I believe the versions >from the MWave web site are quite reliable as well. Hope this helps. ... patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 06:48:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08235; Wed, 29 Nov 95 06:48:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA19753; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:47:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:44:30 -0500 Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA19501; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:44:27 -0500 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA23503; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:44:24 +0500 Message-Id: <9511291144.AA23503@ globalvision.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:44:34 EST Reply-To: jloyless@globalvision.net Subject: TP760CD Floppy enclosure kit Is there a kit for the TP760CD to use the floppy drive externally at the same time as using the CD internally? Does anyone have the part number? Thanks! Jane From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 09:54:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18810; Wed, 29 Nov 95 09:54:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03684; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:53:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:48:55 -0500 Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03209; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:48:50 -0500 Received: by explorer-en.dgp.toronto.edu id <144005>; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:48:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Patrick Hong"'s message as of Nov 29, 1:01am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: phong@phsmc.synapse.net, elf@dgp.toronto.edu Subject: Re: can someone send me mcifax.drv? Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <95Nov29.094833est.144005@explorer-en.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:48:23 -0500 Patrick Hong wrote: > I've been using the Mwave 2.0 drivers from the IBM PCCO web site for quite some > time now and have not experienced any difficulties. I believe the versions > from the MWave web site are quite reliable as well. Hope this helps. > > ... patrick Thanks of the information, Patrick. I have also been using MWAVE 2 for a while, and I'm getting consistently good modem connections, but the *only* thing that doesn't work is faxing, and my system persistently complains about this driver I mentioned. I also am able to send faxes using other programs that do not use this driver. So either FaxWorks or that driver are broken. I often browse the MWAVE web site, I will download from there on the off-chance that this will work. I really like faxworks. It's one of the few reasons I still occasionally use windows. The fax programs on Linux are actually much more convenient to use, but they rasterise postscript or raw text, and the result is very grainy. My message only requested that if someone was willing to send the driver to me, to get in touch with me. One kind person has already sent me the driver, but I won't be sure it has unpacked properly. Today is the first day in a while that I don't have my pad with me. So, despite Patrick's prudent warning, I'm still interesting in hearing >from someone who successfully uses FaxWorks with MWAVE 2. Thanks, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 10:00:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19123; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:00:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04238; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:59:11 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:57:18 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03958; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:57:15 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id JAA10521; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:54:45 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA2054; Wed, 29 Nov 95 09:55:01 -0800 Message-Id: <9511291755.AA2054@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 8D60EE588A6210998525628300517E2E; Wed, 29 Nov 95 09:55:00 To: tp750 From: Gary Moore/VENTANA Date: 29 Nov 95 9:52:44 EDT Subject: Re: can someone send me mcifax.drv? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain I've been using the Mwave 2.0 for over a month now and have no problem faxing. There was a new version of FaxWorks placed on the IBM web site for the 2.0 update....you may need that. To: phong @ phsmc.synapse.net @ INET, elf @ dgp.toronto.edu @ INET cc: tp750 @ cs.utk.edu @ INET (bcc: Gary Moore/VENTANA) From: elf @ dgp.toronto.edu (Eugene Fiume) @ INET Date: 11/29/95 09:48:23 AM Subject: Re: can someone send me mcifax.drv? Patrick Hong wrote: > I've been using the Mwave 2.0 drivers from the IBM PCCO web site for quite some > time now and have not experienced any difficulties. I believe the versions > from the MWave web site are quite reliable as well. Hope this helps. > > ... patrick Thanks of the information, Patrick. I have also been using MWAVE 2 for a while, and I'm getting consistently good modem connections, but the *only* thing that doesn't work is faxing, and my system persistently complains about this driver I mentioned. I also am able to send faxes using other programs that do not use this driver. So either FaxWorks or that driver are broken. I often browse the MWAVE web site, I will download from there on the off-chance that this will work. I really like faxworks. It's one of the few reasons I still occasionally use windows. The fax programs on Linux are actually much more convenient to use, but they rasterise postscript or raw text, and the result is very grainy. My message only requested that if someone was willing to send the driver to me, to get in touch with me. One kind person has already sent me the driver, but I won't be sure it has unpacked properly. Today is the first day in a while that I don't have my pad with me. So, despite Patrick's prudent warning, I'm still interesting in hearing >from someone who successfully uses FaxWorks with MWAVE 2. Thanks, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 10:06:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19542; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:06:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05178; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:05:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:03:42 -0500 Received: from sgigate.sgi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04868; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:03:36 -0500 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgigate.sgi.com via ESMTP (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/940406.SGI) id HAA20907; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 07:03:31 -0800 Received: from newt.alias.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/911001.SGI) id HAA13146; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 07:03:29 -0800 Received: by newt.alias.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA16865; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:03:16 -0500 From: "Eugene Fiume" Message-Id: <9511291003.ZM16863@newt.alias.com> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:03:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: Gary Moore/VENTANA "Re: can someone send me mcifax.drv?" (Nov 29, 8:52am) References: <9511291755.AA2054@lgate.vmedia.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Gary Moore/VENTANA , tp750 Subject: Re: can someone send me mcifax.drv? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gary Moore/VENTANA wrote: > I've been using the Mwave 2.0 for over a month now and have no problem faxing. > There was a new version of FaxWorks placed on the IBM web site for the 2.0 > update....you may need that. Yup. Installed that. Doesn't work for me. And you got yours from the web site? Cheers, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 10:20:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20099; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:20:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06528; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:19:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:18:33 -0500 Received: from dilbert.daily.umn.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06411; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:18:31 -0500 Received: by dilbert.daily.umn.edu (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI.AUTO) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id JAA09487; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:13:16 -0600 From: "George Niece" Message-Id: <9511290913.ZM9485@dilbert.daily.umn.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:13:11 -0600 In-Reply-To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) "(Fwd) Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX?" (Nov 28, 1:43pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 6apr95 MediaMail) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You need to decide how much dram you want long term, unless you like having spare dram cards around. The best advice on that is to buy all the memory you can afford. I am not aware of dimms ever working in the 75x series. -- George Niece, IS Manager for the Minnesota Daily niece@dilbert.daily.umn.edu --- http://www.daily.umn.edu/~niece/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 11:09:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23772; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:09:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10943; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:07:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:03:39 -0500 Received: from kobra.csd.uu.se by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10338; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:03:36 -0500 Received: (from d93psa@localhost) by kobra.csd.uu.se (8.6.10/8.6.9) id RAA24246; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:03:28 +0100 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:03:26 +0100 (MET) From: Pez To: tp750 Subject: Soundcard inside the 750Cs Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have an 750Cs lying around, and I understand that the soundcard inside it isn't MWave, but an AD1848 or compatible. Does anyone know where to get hold of specs/programming information for this? I run Linux, and want to incorporate it better. / My other card is an AWE. It's AWEsome. / <-------------------------------------------------------------------------> < Peter "Pez" Sandell, Computer Science Program > < (d93psa@student.csd.uu.se) > < Department of Computer Science, MIC, Uppsala University, Sweden > < +46 (0)18 102601 (home) / 070 7409336 (cell) > <-------------------------------------------------------------------------> <"To think before you act is like wiping your ass before you take a shit" > <-Arne Anka - Donald's older cousin > < Uppsala University cannot be held responsible for any of my actions > <-------------------------------------------------------------------------> From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 11:59:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26726; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:59:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16409; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:58:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:55:37 -0500 Received: from PEAK.ORG by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15931; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:55:31 -0500 Received: from leejim.peak.org ([198.68.20.35]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.12/8.6.7) with SMTP id IAA21260 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:55:26 -0800 Message-Id: <199511291655.IAA21260@PEAK.ORG> Sender: From: "Jim Lee" Organization: Diamond Quest Consulting To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:51:58 -8 Subject: Re: TP760CD Floppy enclosure kit Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) > To: tp750@cs.utk.edu > From: Jane Loyless > Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:44:34 EST > Reply-to: jloyless@globalvision.net > Subject: TP760CD Floppy enclosure kit > Is there a kit for the TP760CD to use the floppy drive externally at > the same time as using the CD internally? Does anyone have the part > number? > > Thanks! > > > Jane > > Hi Jane, I have the kit for the '755CD - part # is 66G3618. This is brand new, never used, still in the box. I exchanged my '755CD for a '755CX before I had a chance to use it. If it turns out to be the one you're looking for, I'd be glad to sell it to you for 30% less than IBM (plus shipping). ---------- Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 12:09:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27881; Wed, 29 Nov 95 12:09:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17727; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:08:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:06:07 -0500 Received: from icarus2.opt-sci.arizona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17305; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:06:04 -0500 Received: from cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (cobra.Opt-Sci.Arizona.EDU [150.135.52.21]) by icarus2.opt-sci.arizona.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA13623 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:05:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (SMI-8.6/SMIb) id KAA01657; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:05:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:05:46 -0700 From: stu@icarus2.opt-sci.arizona.edu (Stuart Biggar) Message-Id: <199511291705.KAA01657@cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: DIMM RAM X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII I can verify that DIMM RAM does work in an IBM 755CX. I have the DIMM adapter and 2 16 MB DIMMs. The adapter plugs into the same socket as a single RAM card. The DIMM adapter can hold one or two DIMMs. (See page 140 - 147 of the CX User's Guide for info on installing the adapter and DIMMs). With this combo I have 40 MB of usable RAM as verified by the Easy-Setup Test (it takes a LONG time to test 40 MB as compared to the original 8 MB). Warp also runs MUCH faster with 40 compared to 8, especially with Connect, TCPIP, NFS, PMX, ... I hope this clears up some confusion about DIMMs and at least the 755CX. I have no experience with other ThinkPads. Stuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuart F. Biggar Phone: (520) 621-8168 Remote Sensing Group FAX: (520) 621-8292 Optical Sciences Center University of Arizona 1600 N. Country Club Rd, Ste 100 Tucson, AZ 85716-3160 Internet: Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 13:19:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00451; Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:19:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23407; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:17:54 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:14:54 -0500 Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23061; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:14:45 -0500 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19350; Wed, 29 Nov 95 12:14:34 CST Date: Wed, 29 Nov 95 12:14:32 CST Message-Id: <9511291814.AA19350@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Joseph C. Wilson" Subject: You CAN Use DIMM's in a 755CX Until very recently non-parity DIMM modules were not available for the 755CX, hence the prevailing opinion that one cannot install DIMM memory in a 755cx. However, in the Fall-Winter catalog from PC Direct, both non-parity memory modules and memory module adapters suitable for use in the 755cx are listed. Part #'s and prices are as follows: 8 Mb non-parity DIMM memory module #92G7261 475.00 ThinkPad Memory Module Adapter #84G2151 105.00 I hope this clearsup the 755cx - DIMM controversy. I checked this info out with a IBM PC Co. (but not affiliated w/ PC Direct) contact and, after some checking, confirmed that the parts listed will, indeed, do the trick in my cx. Happy ThinkPading Joe Wilson Badger Valve & Fitting Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 13:59:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06444; Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:59:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26714; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:57:50 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:56:26 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26531; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:56:21 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA23196; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:57:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:51:13 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: "Joseph C. Wilson" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: You CAN Use DIMM's in a 755CX In-Reply-To: <9511291814.AA19350@inc.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Joseph C. Wilson wrote: > I hope this clearsup the 755cx - DIMM controversy. I checked this info > out with a IBM PC Co. (but not affiliated w/ PC Direct) contact and, after > some checking, confirmed that the parts listed will, indeed, do the trick > in my cx. Just to start the whole mess again - what about the 750? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 14:01:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07374; Wed, 29 Nov 95 14:01:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26903; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:59:33 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:58:18 -0500 Received: from greece.elab.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26750; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:58:14 -0500 Received: (stevens@localhost) by greece.elab.columbia.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4.elab) id NAA24013; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:58:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:58:09 -0500 From: stevens@elab.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens) Message-Id: <199511291858.NAA24013@greece.elab.columbia.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: vendor for hard drives Hi, I am wondering where people are buying their hard drives for the 750/755 series. I am interested in either the encased or raw 2.5" drive, 540MB or 810MB. I called a place in Computer Shopper to buy the Toshiba 1924FCV 540MB drive. The advertised price was $289 with 3yr warranty, but on the phone, they said the price had gone up to $309, and the warranty was only 1 yr. I am tired of this false advertising crap, can anybody recommend a reputable vendor? --andy From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 17:04:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19513; Wed, 29 Nov 95 17:04:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14313; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:01:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:56:02 -0500 Received: from panix2.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13741; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:55:59 -0500 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id QAA16609; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:55:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:55:30 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: 760cd has arrived! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The 760cd I ordered from IBM in early-October has just arrived, two weeks **ahead** of schedule (they were estimating a ship date of 12/11 as of last Monday). I haven't taken it out of the box yet. Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 17:30:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21801; Wed, 29 Nov 95 17:30:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16907; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:27:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:24:50 -0500 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16558; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:24:46 -0500 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 29 Nov 95 17:24:37 EST Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 29 Nov 95 17:28:00 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 29 Nov 95 17:27:35 EST From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:27:30 EST Subject: Re: RFR (request for rumors?) Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 15:34:04 -0500 (EST) > On Fri, 24 Nov retsla wrote: > And... "IBM is also considering incorporating into new notebooks in 1996 a > 13.3-inch display made by Display Technologies..." ....aieee That's more than the veiwable area of a 14" CRT and almost 15" CRT!!! Guy W. Farrell Vox: (860)486-0964 My Desk Network Coordinator, Postmaster (860)486-5000 Front Desk The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 Toll-free U-Box 206 Fax: (860)486-1615 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 23:51:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25857; Wed, 29 Nov 95 23:51:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15413; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:50:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:47:04 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15072; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:46:59 -0500 Received: by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp; id NAA25348; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:46:21 +0900 Received: from unknown(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (g3.0.3) id xma025343; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:46:00 +0900 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id NAA25408; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:46:31 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id NAA00257; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:45:59 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id NAA05924; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:45:54 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:44:42 +0900 Message-Id: <9511300444.AA03963@shibuya.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: macd@panix.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Michael MacDonald's message of Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:55:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: 760cd has arrived! Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> The 760cd I ordered from IBM in early-October has just arrived, two weeks |> **ahead** of schedule (they were estimating a ship date of 12/11 as of |> last Monday). I haven't taken it out of the box yet. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is not Christmas -- you're allowed to open it early! :-) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 23:57:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26440; Wed, 29 Nov 95 23:57:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15976; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:56:33 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:54:53 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15673; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:54:49 -0500 Received: from Thinkpad (ts34-15.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.44]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA33426 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 20:54:41 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 20:54:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199511300454.UAA33426@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: dpark@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Dennis Park Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and replace the inner drives with higher capacity. Dennis From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 01:07:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00023; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:07:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20645; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:07:05 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:04:55 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20426; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:04:51 -0500 Received: (from news@localhost) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA07519; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:04:45 -0500 To: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Path: news From: Wai-Shan Lam Newsgroups: brown.lists.tp750 Subject: Re: TP760CD Floppy enclosure kit Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:04:13 -0500 Organization: Brown University Lines: 19 Message-Id: <30BD495D.BBE@Brown.edu> References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bootp-30w.andrews.brown.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (Win95; I) To: jloyless@globalvision.net Jane Loyless wrote: > > Is there a kit for the TP760CD to use the floppy drive externally at > the same time as using the CD internally? Does anyone have the part > number? > > Thanks! > > Jane -- It's the same one as the one use for the 750 and 755. New one costs about $150 from PC Direct. From: ________________________ _______________________ Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.Edu Brown University Box 3691 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com Providence RI 02912--3691 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 03:29:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10245; Thu, 30 Nov 95 03:29:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29166; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 03:28:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 03:25:10 -0500 Received: from shellx.best.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28917; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 03:25:05 -0500 From: Received: from 206.14.89.139 ([206.14.89.139]) by shellx.best.com (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA13571 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 08:24:44 GMT Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 08:24:44 GMT Message-Id: <199511300824.IAA13571@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 760cd has arrived! To: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Michael MacDonald wrote: >The 760cd I ordered from IBM in early-October has just arrived, two weeks >**ahead** of schedule (they were estimating a ship date of 12/11 as of >last Monday). I haven't taken it out of the box yet. > >Michael MacDonald >macd@panix.com >mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu I assume this is the 90Mhz version? Anyone know when the 120Mhz 760CD will be available?? _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ _ ( @ @ ) _ | |------.oOOo--()--oOOo.--------| | | | Internet : sandy@sandy.com | | | |--------------- Oooo.---------| | | | .oooO ( ) | | | | ( ) ) / | | | | \ ( (_/ | | | | \_) | | | | |\ _,,,---,,_ | | | | zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_.. | | | | |,*< ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' | | | | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | | ^ Cupertino, California ^ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 04:22:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13480; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:22:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03523; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:21:08 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:20:16 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03353; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:20:13 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id BAA14355; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:20:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:20:08 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: MegaHertz PCMCIA lan adaptor with 755cx Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII has anyone bought this and gotten it to work ? or had any problems ? it seems like it may have nuked my MWave DSP, but this is still under investigation. thanks. doug From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 04:24:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13487; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:24:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03371; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:20:19 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:18:17 -0500 Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03215; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:18:14 -0500 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:17:47 +0100 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.951130101717.480; 30 Nov 95 10:17:47 -100 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen Organization: AORG.UIB.NO To: Dennis Park Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:20:08 MET Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) > Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives > IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. > The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and > replace the inner drives with higher capacity. The shell is very good, I used it instead of the sheet metal and got a much more quiet system. But to fit a high capacity drive would mean to slovethe connector-problem as well, and that do not seem easy to me. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 04:38:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14910; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:38:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04617; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:36:56 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:35:49 -0500 Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04529; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:35:45 -0500 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA37813; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:36:04 -0500 Message-Id: <9511300936.AA37813@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Need some storage? How about 2.16GB? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:36:04 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I was nosing around the Web and ran across a Toshiba press-release; early next year they'll have a 2.16GB 2.5" hard disk (19mm though). Samples of a 1.35GB slimline 2.5" drive are apparently now shipping at $600. See http://www.toshiba.com:80/tais/dpd/comdex/products.htm -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 04:55:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15714; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:55:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05757; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:54:06 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:53:15 -0500 Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05695; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:53:13 -0500 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA37853; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:53:36 -0500 Message-Id: <9511300953.AA37853@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: but really... source for IBM TravelStarXP drives? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:53:36 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Does anyone know where I might get one of the IBM Travelstar XP 1.2G drives relatively cheaply? These are apparently the OEM "bare drive" versions of the 1.2G drives used in Thinkpads; they're 17mm high -- OEM model # is DPRA-21215 See http://www.almaden.ibm.com:80/storage/oem/matrix.htm -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 09:14:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29881; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:14:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29729; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:12:37 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:11:32 -0500 Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29562; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:11:30 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA17234; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:11:25 EST Message-Id: <9511301411.AA17234@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:27:47 +0100 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives >> Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives > >> IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. >> The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and >> replace the inner drives with higher capacity. > >The shell is very good, I used it instead of the sheet metal and got >a much more quiet system. But to fit a high capacity drive would >mean to slovethe connector-problem as well, and that do not seem easy >to me. I assume the connector problem you are refering to is the pin offset problem, where the ribbon cable had to be twisted slightly to get them to match the later drive. It is my understanding that this was only a problem with the early 750's, and that the later factory tp drives had cables that were compatible with the aftermarket IBM drives. Please correct me if I'm wrong. By the way, I've been using an upgraded drive with the stressed connector for more than a year now, and I have had no problems so far. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 09:14:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29877; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:14:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29725; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:12:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:08:48 -0500 Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29194; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:08:38 -0500 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:08:08 +0100 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.951130150740.384; 30 Nov 95 15:08:08 -100 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen Organization: AORG.UIB.NO To: ivo@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:10:27 MET Subject: Re: vendor for hard drives Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) > From: Ivo Welch > Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:54:47 GMT > To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no > Subject: Re: vendor for hard drives > Reply-to: ivo@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk These are important questions and we should help each other, so I think we should continue the discussion > I understand that the IDE or EIDE HD is inside a little carrier box. You > say that it is easy to put a different IDE or EIDE drive into this little > carrier box. Yes, the drives (including the connector) may rather easy be moved between the boxes. I received (from IBM) a 540Mb disk with a very annoing noice. It was in a rather simple sheet-metal box. I moved it to the much better original plastic (and sound deadening) box > > I was always under the impression that these were standard drives. Was I > wrong? The drive itself is standard and from many manufacturers, but are specially assembled to fit the TP: *It is inside a special box *Its connector are non-standard I can now easily solve the "box"-part of this, but need a lot more courage and advise to solve the "connector"-part. I think there are people in this group that have solved both problems, but to me ist seems that the ribbon cable from the special connector goes inside the disk housing so that it can not be changed without removing the disk cover (breaking warranty labels) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 10:21:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05124; Thu, 30 Nov 95 10:21:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05679; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:19:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:11:04 -0500 Received: from gps.leeds.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04513; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:07:51 -0500 Received: (from engjcc@localhost) by gps.leeds.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA25577 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:07:13 GMT From: J C Cummings Message-Id: <199511301507.PAA25577@gps.leeds.ac.uk> Subject: digestifer... To: tp750@cs.utk.edu (Think-Pad 750 Mailing list) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:07:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ummm. Someone had mentioned before that it was now possible to get the list in digest form? Could then e-mail me the directions to do this again? -Many thanks. -james -- James Cummings, engjcc@gps.leeds.ac.uk, English, University of Leeds. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 11:33:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11002; Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:33:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14088; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:32:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:29:39 -0500 Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13593; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:29:38 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id LAA19183; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:29:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199511301629.LAA19183@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: J C Cummings Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu (Think-Pad 750 Mailing list) Subject: Re: digestifer... In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:07:12 GMT." <199511301507.PAA25577@gps.leeds.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:29:30 -0500 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu > Ummm. Someone had mentioned before that it was now possible to get the list > in digest form? Could then e-mail me the directions to do this > again? send mail to tp750-request@cs.utk.edu asking to be moved to the digest. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 11:45:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12063; Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:45:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16220; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:44:08 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:42:57 -0500 Received: from arctos.LCS.MIT.EDU.LCS.MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15855; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:42:55 -0500 Received: by arctos.LCS.MIT.EDU.LCS.MIT.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06918; Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:42:53 EST Message-Id: <9511301642.AA06918@arctos.LCS.MIT.EDU.LCS.MIT.EDU> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: greetings Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:42:52 -0500 From: Ed Hurley i have a tp755cv running linux with 40MB ram, 540MB disk. i'm very interested in running linux on the 760c. is anyone currently running linux on the 760c? is there another list which might be more appropriate for these questions? thanks, -ed From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 12:15:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14457; Thu, 30 Nov 95 12:15:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19817; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:14:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:13:12 -0500 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19677; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:13:10 -0500 Received: from ts-b.bcc.ac.uk by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:12:23 +0000 From: ucklw08 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:12:08 GMT Message-Id: <46197.9511301712@ts-b.bcc.ac.uk> To: lrj@hepth.cornell.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: but really... source for IBM TravelStarXP drives? Do the Thinkpads use the Travelstar drives? The specifications claim these drives would survive 500G accelerations in non-operating mode and 100G in operating mode. Somehow I suspect one of these drives might cost more than my entire Thinkpad 750Cs -- does it contain Travelstar drive? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 12:35:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15724; Thu, 30 Nov 95 12:35:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21683; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:34:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:31:52 -0500 Received: from panix2.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21574; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:31:49 -0500 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id MAA25323; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:31:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:31:31 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: 760cd impressions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Wow...what a machine. Blows the 755cd, which I owned previously, out of the water. It's much faster, the screen is significantly larger *and* brighter, and the special features (4x cdrom, mpeg, video in/out) are incredible. I'm most stunned by the MPEG capability. IBM includes a demo disk with the 760cd that has a 60-second trailer from the movie "True Lies". The MPEG-2, 4 MB/S version is spectacular. It's almost as good as watching a VHS copy of True Lies on the Thinkpad. Too bad it's only a minute long. That single clip gobbles up 40 MB of CD-ROM space. There are two other clips to watch, shown in various compression settings. Even the MPEG-1, 1.5 MB/S versions are decent. The one thing I dislike about the 760cd is the location of the speakers (at the front of the keyboard). Invariably my hands rest near or over the speakers, blocking much of the sound. The volume level is a bit too low even when they are not obstructed. The good thing about the speaker location is that there's much less CPU interference (the 755cd's speakers emitted a continuous high-pitched whine at high volume levels). The 760cd is also tempermental about making IR connections to 755-series PCs. I tried to initiate a TranXit session between a 755ce and the 760cd and had to wait 4 minutes for the two to negotiate a connection. It took a 755cd 90 seconds to negotiate a link. It may be because the 755s use an older IR driver (1.0) and older TranXit software (v1.00, compared to v1.04). All-in-all, however, I'm very impressed by the 760cd. Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 13:36:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23290; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:36:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26527; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:34:35 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:31:02 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26199; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:30:59 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA17393; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:31:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:31:42 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: Thor +ivind Jensen Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: vendor for hard drives In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Thor +ivind Jensen wrote: > I can now easily solve the "box"-part of this, but need a lot more > courage and advise to solve the "connector"-part. I think there are > people in this group that have solved both problems, but to me ist > seems that the ribbon cable from the special connector goes inside > the disk housing so that it can not be changed without removing the > disk cover (breaking warranty labels) Doing "transplant surgery" on the drives is pretty simple. In a nutshell: The only label that you need to move is the one with the /////// on it telling you where to puch to seat the drive. If you peel up the two corners of this, you will see the only two screws you need to remove. Remove them, but me careful not to drop the hex nuts on the other side - they can fall out and be lost forever if you're not working in a clean space. The only other thing necessary is to pry the clips on the side open. If you look at the side of the drive, you'll see these plastic clips kinda like what you'd have on a life preserver. The easiest and safest way to clear those is to gently pry above the clips, starting with the end near the connector. Keep slight pressure outwards to keep them from refastening and you can open all 6 clips w/ no problem. When you do that and open the case, you find the drive just sits in there. The only thing really fastened down in the D connector that sticks out the case. It's just a 44 pin flat connector on one end, similar to what you'd find inside a desktop machine connected to an IDE drive (except this is _44_ instead of the standard IDE 40, because of the power lines) a ribbon cable and an AMP D connector on the other end. Simply pull the 44 pin connector off the old drive and plug the new drive in. Pow, done. Hook it all back up and put it away. The ONLY thing I've begun to wonder about is only relevant if you have a dock with another IDE drive in it. When you pull the IBM drive out, you discover it's unjumpered. I put my Toshiba back in jumpered as master, no slave, but I wonder if it shouldn't be slave present for docking purposes. Any speculation from anyone, or anyone put in a drive jumpered the way I did and manage to use it successfully with a dock and 2nd ide? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 13:39:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23597; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:39:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26807; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:38:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:36:36 -0500 Received: from central.picker.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26599; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:35:30 -0500 Received: from mr.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0tLDXV-0004w7C; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:16 EST Received: from alpha14 by mr.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-a) id AA02608; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:16:55 EST From: djr@mr.picker.com (Don Russell) Received: by alpha14; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15May95-0912AM) id AA00779; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:16:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:16:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9511301816.AA00779@alpha14> To: hurley@mama-bear.lcs.mit.edu Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9511301642.AA06918@arctos.LCS.MIT.EDU.LCS.MIT.EDU> (message from Ed Hurley on Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:42:52 -0500) Subject: Re: greetings As soon as our 760 arrives I will be trying to bring up Linux. I would be happy to share experiences with you. -- +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Don Russell | Internet: djr@mr.picker.com | | Picker International | Voice: (216)-473-5726 | | 5500 Avion Park Drive | Fax: (216) 473-5728 | | Highland Heights, Ohio 44143 | | +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 13:47:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25158; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:47:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27020; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:40:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:39:18 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26864; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:39:17 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA17865; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:40:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:40:01 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: Dennis Park Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives In-Reply-To: <199511300454.UAA33426@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Dennis Park wrote: > IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. > The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and > replace the inner drives with higher capacity. Phone number anyone? PC direct I got, Factory Outlet, no. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 13:54:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25839; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:54:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27877; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:50:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:49:10 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27703; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:49:07 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA18525; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:50:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:49:59 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: Dennis Park Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives In-Reply-To: <199511300454.UAA33426@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Dennis Park wrote: > IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. > The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and > replace the inner drives with higher capacity. Whoops - found it (the number) on a web page. The fellow I ordered 2 from (hey, even as 170M drives they're a decent deal) said they have about 200 as of 11/30/95 1400EST. Place your orders now! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 14:39:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00168; Thu, 30 Nov 95 14:39:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02036; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:36:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:35:31 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01904; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:35:22 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA20631 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:25:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:25:14 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: TP750 Subject: Port replicator for 700/720 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A week or so ago I promised a PR for the 700/720 to someone on the list, who sent me their address. I forwarded it on to my work email address... which promptly ate it, after I'd already deleted the original. Oops. All I remember is you work at Sigma Data.... So if you're out there and still want it, please mail me w/ your address again. Sorry for the confusion.... From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 14:56:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00467; Thu, 30 Nov 95 14:56:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03966; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:53:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:53:18 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03882; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:53:16 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id AAA26425; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:25:34 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3730; Thu, 30 Nov 95 14:51:07 -0800 Message-Id: <9511302251.AA3730@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id AD7B2B038FE575C385256284006C547F; Thu, 30 Nov 95 14:51:02 To: Don Whiteside Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 30 Nov 95 14:45:02 EDT Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....Phone number anyone? PC direct I got, Factory Outlet, no....." ~~~~~ 800/426-3395 for a faxback of their current inventory, hit extension 3001 Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 16:48:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11181; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:48:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15101; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:47:21 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:43:55 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14677; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:43:46 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA14102; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:43:21 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2b7.32.19951130214317.00a6b2a0@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b7 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:43:17 -0600 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu, pwilliams@engr.wisc.edu, masters@engr.wisc.edu, wittmann@engr.wisc.edu, pbkaufma@facstaff.wisc.edu, dnelson@engr.wisc.edu, redmond@engr.wisc.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: SOLUTION: WindowsNT thinkpad video drivers Hi folks, The good news: finally, IBM has video drivers for running Windows NT on the Thinkpad. previously you could only do 640x480x256 (standard VGA) with NT. now you can run NT on a Thinkpad with up to 1024x768x256 resolution (much nicer!). The bad news: the drivers really only work on thinkpads with _active matrix_ LCDs. also, the drivers do not seem as intelligent about switching resolutions automatically when going from LCD to external screen as the Windows 3.1 or Windows 95 drivers.=20 part of the readme file is below. you can grab the NT video driver from the web at ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/vf75xwnt.exe. ><< Western Digiatal ThinkPad Video Driver Release Information >> > > -- 10/24/95= -- > >1.0 Install ThinkPad 750/755 family SVGA video device drivers >-------------------------------------------------------- > The standard video drivers included in the Windows NT only supports > up to 16 colors. When you need the color depth more than 16 colors, > it is required to install this Windows NT video drivers which supports > the following feature: > > 640x480 256 colors,(LCD mode, CRT mode and LCD/CRT both mode) > > 800x600 256 colors,(LCD mode and LCD/CRT both mode for 755CX, > CRT mode only for the other 750/755 Family) > > 1024x768 256 colors (CRT mode only) > > This video driver diskette supports the following ThinkPad: > > - ThinkPad 750C/755C/755CE/755CD/755CDV/755CX which has Western Digital > video control chip. > > > Installation Instruction: > > 1. Boot Windows NT Workstation and logon to the system. > 2. Click "Command Prompt" at Main menu > 3. Type the following command at DOS session: > > A:>install C:=FEWINNT35 (enter) > > C:=FEWINNT35 is the drive and path where Windows NT is installed > > > 4. When files are copied, go back to Program Manager - Main > 5. Click "Control Panel" > 6. Click "Display", click "Change Display Type..." > 7. At Adapter Type, click "Change..." and Select the following adapter > at Select Device list > > "Western Digital Graphics Adapter" > > 8. Click "Install" and follow the instruction on the screen > 9. When installation completes, shutdown and restart Windows NT > 10. Click "Display", select 16 colors or 256 colors in "Color Palette" > 11. Click "Test" to make sure that the selected color depth is set > correctly. > 12. Shutdown and Restart Windows NT. Now, you finish the setup for SVGA > setup. > > > >2.0 Known Issues: >----------------- > > - Dynamic resolution change between CRT and LCD and virtual screen= function > are not suppotred. If you use with 1024x768 CRT only mode and switching > from CRT mode to LCD mode (640x480 resolution) for example, screen image will > be forced to 640x480 resolution. Switching back to CRT only mode again stays > with 640x480 resolution on CRT. To restore to 1024x768, go to Display > Settings menu on WindowsNT control panel, select "Test" button to= display > with the previous resolution. > > - When Western Digital SVGA driver is used on 750Cs/755Cs/755CSE which= has > STN color panel, screen is not correctly setup. Abnormal screen image= is > displayed. Current beta driver does not support STN color. > Use 16 color mode for STN type 750Cs/755Cs/755CSE ThinkPad. > > >-------------- End of Release Note= ------------------------------------------- > --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 17:11:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12678; Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:11:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17382; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:09:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:08:49 -0500 Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17230; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:08:44 -0500 Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (sears@localhost) by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (8.6.12/3.8davy) for delivery to "tp750@cs.utk.edu" id RAA09285; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:08:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199511302208.RAA09285@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:08:30 -0500 From: Michael J Sears To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives --> On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Dennis Park wrote: --> --> > IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. --> > The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and --> > replace the inner drives with higher capacity. --> --> Phone number anyone? PC direct I got, Factory Outlet, no. I found the number in the computer shopper, 1-800-426-7255 Michael sears@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu PS - Anyone think it might be possible to rig something up & try to get one of these to work in a TP 350? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 17:35:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14518; Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:35:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19089; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:27:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:25:58 -0500 Received: from mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18823; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:25:54 -0500 From: Received: from in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA12722; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:27:50 -0600 Received: from ccMail by in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMTPLINK V2.11 PreRelease 3) id AA817777559; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:24:04 CST Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:24:04 CST Message-Id: <9510308177.AA817777559@in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 701 & LINUX I am running linux and win95 on my TP 701C . I am wondering what configurations others are using for Linux on a TP 701. Most specifically Video, and sound. I am running X86free in 640x480x256, however I am using a 'generic' svga type of configuration. I would like to have 800x600x256 if possible , and if there is support for it what ever accelleration that the ct&t video has. At current I do not have any sound support loaded either. The web page for thikpads just leaves me questioning what applies to me (my 701). which brings me to my next point. Where are the TP 701 people. Did they leave the group is there another group forming/that formed for 701 users? Kevan P. Riley BioMedical Computing Support Vanderbilt University Medical Center kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 18:18:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16996; Thu, 30 Nov 95 18:18:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23658; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:17:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:15:36 -0500 Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23468; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:15:27 -0500 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28901; Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:15:16 CST Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:15:15 CST Message-Id: <9511302315.AA28901@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Joseph C. Wilson" Subject: Re: You CAN Use DIMM's in a 755CX >Just to start the whole mess again - what about the 750? > > Sorry, can't answer that one. You might give PC Direct a call and ask them for their latest catalog. Good luck, sorry I am not more help. Joe Wilson Badger Valve & Fitting Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 18:35:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17847; Thu, 30 Nov 95 18:35:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25007; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:33:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:32:18 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24866; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:32:09 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.197] (comserv-g-53.usc.edu [128.125.223.197]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id PAA07629; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:32:00 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:40:19 -0800 To: , TP750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: TP 701 & LINUX At 4:24 PM 11/30/95, wrote: >which brings me to my next point. Where are the TP 701 >people. Did they leave the group is there another group >forming/that formed for 701 users? > >Kevan P. Riley There are some of us here--most of which are either current or former users of 75X machines too. But face it--the list is clearly very 75X (and perhaps soon to be 760) -centric in nature. Nevertheless, us 701 oddballs (and some 35X & 36X series owners) are usually considered quite welcome. It's just a little tougher to touch base since we're the minority and there aren't as many on the list that are "experts" with our machines as there are with the 75X's. The one you want to talk to though, regarding 701's and Linux, is likely John Kim, a former/current 750 owner. He's a Linux guy. However, he just received his 701 today and he's not likely to be in any position to give advice for some time to come. Give him a while to settle in with his new toy. ;-) He should be reading the list here, but if not, you can reach him at jokim@tuna.mit.edu. However, as I said, give him a couple weeks of breathing time--it'll take him that long to figure out his 701. Good luck and welcome to the fold of 701 owners! I feel quite comfortable with my decision to switch over to the 701C from the 750C. I would have gotten a subnotebook long ago if not for the dinky keyboards and micro-mini screens. The 701 did away with those very valid concerns and gave me a reason to get one anyway. But until it came along, the 750C was wonderful--too bad it weighed as much as it did (I can only *imagine* what 760 owners are doing--over 7 pounds?! At what weight does your arm fall off? Seems we're kinda moving in the wrong direction--we did away with the 25-lb suitcase machines long ago and embraced notebook machines for a good *reason*!) ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 18:45:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18310; Thu, 30 Nov 95 18:45:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25746; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:44:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:43:02 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25645; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:42:55 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA01830; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:43:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:42:59 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701 & LINUX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Randy Whittle wrote: > The one you want to talk to though, regarding 701's and Linux, is > likely John Kim, a former/current 750 owner. He's a Linux guy. However, > he just received his 701 today and he's not likely to be in any position to > give advice for some time to come. Give him a while to settle in with his > new toy. ;-) I think Jim Lee is the trailblazer for Linux on the 701. His positive reports here of Linux on the 701 was the main reason I got the 701. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 19:06:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19644; Thu, 30 Nov 95 19:06:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27344; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 19:06:05 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 19:03:15 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27017; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 19:03:12 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa20451; 30 Nov 95 18:58 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (5.x/SMI-SVR4 (plus cnri and barry's mods)) id AA15769; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:58:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:58:00 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Manheimer Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US To: Randy Whittle Cc: kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu, TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701 & LINUX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here's another 701C (actually, 701Cs) owner, running linux, and pleased as punch. (Hey, do you suppose the 'punch' being referred to is of 'punch & judy' fame? That is one smug puppy, after all - but not a very pleasant one!) (... but i digress...-) Re your questions - i got my xf86 config file from someone on this list, and consequently didn't even try to fathom the intricacies, which i barely had under control the other time i messed with linux. I'm sending a copy of it, below, since i believe it does the 800x600 that you're seeking. (I disabled the 800x600 mode in the copy i use, since i prefer to have things contained on the screen, when possible, but with the option to move off, via fvwm.) Re the merits of the 701 w/linux - all in all, given what i spent, i don't think i could have gotten a better arrangement for a portable system, given my unix experience and priority on a fairly light, compact machine... Anway, the xf86 config file, as the guy posted it, is attached below my sig. Cheers! ken manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us (703) 620-8990 x259 Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, VA 22091 # $XConsortium: XF86Conf.cpp,v 1.5 95/01/16 13:16:10 kaleb Exp $ # $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/XF86Conf.cpp,v 3.11 1995/01/28 15:46:18 dawes Exp $ # # Copyright (c) 1994 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. This man page is installed as /usr/X11R6/man/man5/XF86Config.5x # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging # NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. # DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. # DontZoom EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Keyboard section # ********************************************************************** Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the # following line # Protocol "Xqueue" AutoRepeat 500 5 # Let the server do the NumLock processing. This should only be required # when using pre-R6 clients # ServerNumLock # Specifiy which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Xleds 1 2 3 # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: # LeftAlt Meta # RightAlt ModeShift # RightCtl Compose # ScrollLock ModeLock EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "PS/2" Device "/dev/mouse" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice Emulate3Buttons # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # ChordMiddle EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown" # Bandwidth is in MHz unless units are specified Bandwidth 65 # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 30-64 # typical for a single frequency fixed-sync monitor # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 50-100 # typical for a single frequency fixed-sync monitor # VertRefresh 50-100 # multisync # VertRefresh 60, 65 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # VertRefresh 40-50, 80-100 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or # a multi-line format. # A generic VGA 640x480 mode (hsync = 31.5kHz, refresh = 60Hz) # These two are equivalent # ModeLine "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 Mode "640x480" DotClock 28.32 HTimings 640 664 760 800 VTimings 480 491 493 525 EndMode # These two are equivalent # ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace Mode "1024x768" DotClock 28.32 HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264 VTimings 768 776 784 817 # Flags "Interlace" EndMode EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of graphics device sections may be present Section "Device" Identifier "ThinkPad 701" VendorName "IBM" BoardName "Internal" Chipset "ct65545" VideoRam 1024 # Clocks 28.29 28.32 28.29 28.29 28.29 28.29 28.28 28.28 EndSection Section "Device" # SVGA server auto-detected chipset Identifier "Generic SVGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" EndSection # Section "Device" # Identifier "Any Trident TVGA 9000" # VendorName "Trident" # BoardName "TVGA 9000" # Chipset "tvga9000" # VideoRam 512 # Clocks 25 28 45 36 57 65 50 40 25 28 0 45 72 77 80 75 # EndSection # Section "Device" # Identifier "Actix GE32+ 2MB" # VendorName "Actix" # BoardName "GE32+" # Ramdac "ATT20C490" # Dacspeed 110 # Option "dac_8_bit" # Clocks 25.0 28.0 40.0 0.0 50.0 77.0 36.0 45.0 # Clocks 130.0 120.0 80.0 31.0 110.0 65.0 75.0 94.0 # EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # The colour SVGA server Section "Screen" Driver "svga" Device "ThinkPad 701" Monitor "Generic Monitor" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "640x480" "1024x768" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection EndSection # The 16-colour VGA server Section "Screen" Driver "vga16" Device "ThinkPad 701" Monitor "Generic Monitor" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection EndSection # The Mono server Section "Screen" Driver "vga2" Device "ThinkPad 701" Monitor "Generic Monitor" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection EndSection # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32) # Section "Screen" # Driver "accel" # Device "Actix GE32+ 2MB" # Monitor "Generic Monitor" # Subsection "Display" # Depth 8 # Modes "640x480" # ViewPort 0 0 # Virtual 1280 1024 # EndSubsection # SubSection "Display" # Depth 16 # Weight 565 # Modes "640x480" # ViewPort 0 0 # Virtual 1024 768 # EndSubsection # EndSection From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 20:31:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25642; Thu, 30 Nov 95 20:31:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02971; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:29:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:28:33 -0500 Received: from speed3.speed.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02897; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:28:30 -0500 From: Received: from kev.deltanet.net (ana1033.deltanet.com [199.171.191.33]) by speed3.speed.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA27410 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:28:26 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:26:07 PST Subject: Re: vendor for hard drives To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon V0.05, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII >Doing "transplant surgery" on the drives is pretty simple. In a nutshell: > >[SNIP] > >Simply pull the 44 pin connector off the old drive and plug the new drive >in. Pow, done. Hook it all back up and put it away. Don't forget that if you're using DOS, Windows 3.11, or OS/2 that you'll need to use a software package like EZ Drive or Disk Manager on drives that are larger than 528MB (1024 cylinders). Otherwise, FDISK will give you a shocking disk drive capacity measure ("14MB" on a 540MB drive, etc.), and won't allow you to partition the drive properly. Most new 2.5" drives are now above 540MB. For more info on EZ Drive, you can visit Micro-House's web pages at http://www.microhouse.com/, or see our pages at http://warrior.com/ezdrive. --------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Prince | Check out the Road Warrior Outpost kevin@warrior.com | at --> http://warrior.com <-- 714.418.1400 x101 | Solutions for the Mobile Professional --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 20:44:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26919; Thu, 30 Nov 95 20:44:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04110; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:43:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:42:29 -0500 Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04000; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:42:13 -0500 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA12312 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:36:16 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199512010136.JAA12312@luyou> Subject: TP345 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:36:16 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text hi, Has anyone used the scaled-up TP360 => TP345? I assume I can swap stuff >from TP75x & TP360 to the TP345.. yes? Other than the MWAVE on the TP755 and extra memory possible are there any other differences Any th the TP345? Comments appreciated. Cheers. __________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 21:26:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00044; Thu, 30 Nov 95 21:26:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06967; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:25:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:24:12 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06823; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:24:11 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id SAA23154; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:24:08 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma023145; Thu Nov 30 18:24:05 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id SAA17912; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:24:03 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:24:03 -0800 Message-Id: <199512010224.SAA17912@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Doug Fairclough From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: MegaHertz PCMCIA lan adaptor with 755cx Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu I've had problems with Zircom's Ethernet PCMCIA (it never configured right) and went to a 3-Com 3C589B-TP Ethernet PCMCIA and haven't had a problem. BTW, I have a P/75 755CDV. At 01:20 AM 11/30/95 -0800, Doug Fairclough wrote: > >has anyone bought this and gotten it to work ? or had any >problems ? it seems like it may have nuked my MWave DSP, >but this is still under investigation. > >thanks. > >doug