From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 1 08:36:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23015; Sat, 1 Jul 95 08:36:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15065; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 08:25:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 08:25:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15039; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 08:25:32 -0400 Received: by explorer-en.dgp.toronto.edu id <144031>; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 08:25:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: 's message as of Jun 30, 2:57pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: , Randal Whittle , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Robert Dewar Message-Id: <95Jul1.082516edt.144031@explorer-en.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 08:25:06 -0400 Hey people. What's the fuss all about. A couple of people got perhaps a bit overheated in a derivative discussion. So, after a day or two people can re-ask the questions that got lost in the shuffle and we'll all be happy campers again. And I'm the one saying this!!! It must be France and all the pleasant coffee breaks... Eugene. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 1 11:17:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00272; Sat, 1 Jul 95 11:17:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23076; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 11:07:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 11:06:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gps.leeds.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23066; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 11:06:56 -0400 Received: (from mes4jcc@localhost) by gps.leeds.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA03910; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 16:06:34 +0100 From: J C Cummings Message-Id: <199507011506.QAA03910@gps.leeds.ac.uk> Subject: Re: AC Adapter for use in England To: afs1@psu.edu (Arnold Shapiro) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 16:06:34 +0100 (BST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Think-Pad 750 Mailing list) In-Reply-To: <199506301822.OAA29898@genesis.ait.psu.edu> from "Arnold Shapiro" at Jun 30, 95 02:15:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I will be using my 750C in England. > > It uses the AC Adapter P/N 49G2194. > > [it also lists 49G2192 & FRU P/n 49G2196] > > Will this adapter work in England? > > Do I need any other equipment? > > Thanks for your help. > > Arnold I use the same Universal AC adaptor here in England. The only change I needed to make (from Canada) was to get an adapter to change plug shape. I think it is best to buy that adaptor in North America and bring it with you. It should only be a couple dollars at any Radio Shack. -James > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > Arnold F. Shapiro > Penn State University > 409F Smeal College of Business > University Park, PA 16802-3004 > (814) 865-3961 > (814) 865-6284 (FAX) > afs1@psu.edu > http://cac.psu.edu/~afs1/30arc_02.html > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 1 15:34:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15218; Sat, 1 Jul 95 15:34:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05785; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 15:18:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 15:18:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05775; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 15:18:43 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA20293 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 12:17:20 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA02162 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 12:18:04 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 12:18:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199507011918.MAA02162@shell1.best.com> Subject: Extra Lithium-Ion Batterry , 32-bit Access & NT 3.5 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) Hello All, Two new questions and one unresolved question: (1) I'm thinking about buying an extra Lithium-Ion battery for my 755CX. Do I have to buy it directly from IBM or can someone recommend a reseller who sells them cheaper? Also, does IBM make an "external" battery charger for this battery? (2) Does NT3.5 install properly on a 755? If so, what functionality would I lose (i.e. Mwave, display resolution, etc.) if any? Comments? (3) I still haven't resolved how to get 32-bit disk access working under WFWG...32-bit file access works fine. Suggestions? Finally, is there any magical way to "map" the ExaByte 8mm scsi tape drive in my decktop system so I can backup the ThinkPad to it over my WFWG network? As usual, any feedback is most appreciated. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 1 21:54:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08262; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:54:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24940; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 21:43:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 21:43:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24929; Sat, 1 Jul 1995 21:43:24 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA21401; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:44:07 -0400 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:44:07 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507020144.AA21401@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, sandy@sandy.com Subject: Re: Extra Lithium-Ion Batterry , 32-bit Access & NT 3.5 I don't know what you pay IBM for a Li-Ion battery. I ordered three >from Rockwell Computers in NYC, at a price of $145, which seems reasonable, but as I say, I don't know how it compares with the list price. Rockwell sometimes has these in stock, if not they can get them in a couple of days. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 2 10:51:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15138; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:51:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06732; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 10:40:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 10:40:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06722; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 10:40:48 -0400 Received: from ppp18.basenet.net (ppp18.basenet.net [204.248.92.18]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id IAA10989 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 08:38:11 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 08:38:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199507021338.IAA10989@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Glidepoint Have any of you used or purchased a Glidepoint by Cirque or Alps? I just got my resellers demo unit and wanted to get your impressions if any of you have tried them with you ThinkPads. Personally, I think it's pretty cool. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 2 11:07:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16015; Sun, 2 Jul 95 11:07:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07674; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 10:59:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 10:59:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07663; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 10:59:33 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA21407; Sun, 2 Jul 95 11:00:09 -0400 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 95 11:00:09 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507021500.AA21407@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: krisdw@basenet.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Glidepoint what is a glidepoint, one of these touch pad cursor replacements? I could not imagine being interested in it. I never want to take my hands from the keyboard again to operate a mouse or mouse-replacement. When I was still using my desktop, I replaced the keyboard with the Lexmark Trackpoint keyboard so that it was tolerable to use. I really hate working on a Unix work station without the Trackpoint at this stage. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 2 11:57:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17943; Sun, 2 Jul 95 11:57:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10306; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 11:49:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 11:49:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10295; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 11:49:25 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id LAA18726; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 11:53:45 -0400 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 11:53:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Robert Dewar Cc: krisdw@basenet.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Glidepoint In-Reply-To: <9507021500.AA21407@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 2 Jul 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > what is a glidepoint, one of these touch pad cursor replacements? I could > not imagine being interested in it. I never want to take my hands from the > keyboard again to operate a mouse or mouse-replacement. When I was still > using my desktop, I replaced the keyboard with the Lexmark Trackpoint > keyboard so that it was tolerable to use. I really hate working on a Unix > work station without the Trackpoint at this stage. Yah, ditto. I'd own a Lexmark keyboard w/trackpoint for my desktop machine if they made them with bus mice connectors (instead of PS2 connectors) or if I could find a converter gadget. Unfortunately I can't even find a trackball with bus connector anymore, so I've been using a normal mouse (ewww...) since my Logitec trackball died. [To show the extend of my obsession, I had superglued the logitec to the right edge of my keyboard so I could keep my hands in roughly the same place and work with the 'board in my lap....] ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 2 14:38:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26550; Sun, 2 Jul 95 14:38:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16601; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 14:29:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 14:29:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16591; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 14:29:03 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3148; Sun, 02 Jul 95 14:30:12 -0400 Message-Id: <9507021830.AA3148@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id C072F3BCFBE5AA15852561ED00641A3A; Sun, 2 Jul 95 14:30:10 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 2 Jul 95 14:23:21 Subject: Re: AC Adapter for use in England Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....> I will be using my 750C in England. > It uses the AC Adapter P/N 49G2194. > [it also lists 49G2192 & FRU P/n 49G2196] > Will this adapter work in England? > Do I need any other equipment? > Thanks for your help. > > Arnold I use the same Universal AC adaptor here in England. The only change I needed to make (from Canada) was to get an adapter to change plug shape. I think it is best to buy that adaptor in North America and bring it with you. It should only be a couple dollars at any Radio Shack...." IBM can't even get you the international plugs for those, so you have to go with the converter on the end. You can get the plug for England from a dealer in England & the plug for France in France, etc. Be careful buying the plug converters, though. I've seen some really cheap ones that get loose & start to dangle from the sockets in the UK. Am I the only one that noticed that IBM's 110 volt AC adapters for US-only are $96.00 each, but the same adapter with European compatability built in is only $48.00? I'm not complaining, I'm just buying int'l adapters whether we need them or not. Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. "England and America: two countries divided by a common language." ----Probably Churchill, I don't remember. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 2 16:35:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04461; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:35:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23025; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 16:22:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 16:22:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23015; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 16:22:12 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id QAA05635; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 16:26:35 -0400 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 16:26:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Michael Verne/VENTANA Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: AC Adapter for use in England In-Reply-To: <9507021830.AA3148@LGATE.vmedia.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Jul 1995, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: > Am I the only one that noticed that IBM's 110 volt AC adapters for US-only are > $96.00 each, but the same adapter with European compatability built in is only > $48.00? I'm not complaining, I'm just buying int'l adapters whether we need > them or not. ???!!!! _Where_??? I desperately need a second adaptor, and I had not gotten one (I need one for my desk at work, but was unwilling to shell out $100 to save me the trouble of carrying one to and fro from home, but I'll spend $50!!!) because of the cost. Tell me where, where where!!?? ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 2 19:08:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11884; Sun, 2 Jul 95 19:08:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00995; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 18:58:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 18:58:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00985; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 18:58:00 -0400 From: Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA67555; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 22:57:57 GMT Received: from slip145-14.ut.nl.ibm.net(129.37.145.14) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaxsgCzR; Sun Jul 2 22:57:17 1995 Received: by slip145-14.ut.nl.ibm.net (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0um) id AA0126; Mon, 03 Jul 95 00:56:35 -0700 Message-Id: <9507030756.AA0126@slip145-14.ut.nl.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 03 Jul 95 00:45:01 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: aenna@ibm.net Subject: TP755 - MMOS2 WARP Installation X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <107_67_1_804746702> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: Haven't seen before, and asked yet to IBM Helpline. I'm trying to let my TP755CD have installed MMOS2 under Warp. Everyone of multimedia device support I suppose that'd be installed (I'm using the Selective install program) doesn't work anyway... Even the IBM Helpline man that I contacted today was surprised! He told me that they're on wait from laboratories of an answer. Anybody here can help me? It's so "frustrating" have my TP755CD only play TADA.WAV under plain DOS Windows... :-( Is anyway a fix to this problem? Many thanks on advance, and cheers. Alberto Enna Rome * Italy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 2 20:54:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16625; Sun, 2 Jul 95 20:54:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05950; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 20:45:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 20:45:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05927; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 20:45:32 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA26798; Sun, 2 Jul 95 20:46:00 -0400 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 95 20:46:00 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507030046.AA26798@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, dwhite@shadow.net Subject: Re: AC Adapter for use in England Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU I agree, I have not seen prices anytning like this ($48), please give details. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 2 22:47:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22226; Sun, 2 Jul 95 22:47:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13389; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 22:38:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 22:38:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom9.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13378; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 22:37:55 -0400 Received: by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA11580; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 19:36:52 -0700 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 19:36:51 -0700 (PDT) From: lu lok Subject: Re: Glidepoint To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Have any of you used or purchased a Glidepoint by Cirque or Alps? I bought a Cirque Glidepoint when they first came out last(?) year. Even though I liked the tap and drag (which the PowerMac trackpads didn't have), I found myself going back and forth between the TrackPoint and Glidepoint; usually preferring the TrackPoint for precise or small movement. I bought an Alps Glidepoint when they came out and gave away by Cirque. I wanted the direct mouse port plug instead of Cirque's serial port to mouse port adapter. The Alps Glidepoint come in either PS2 or Serial port and also has a 3rd programmable button. I couldn't get the Alps Glidepoint to work on my TP360. After much troubleshooting, etc. I realized that the pins in the plug from the GP to the mouse port wasn't actually connecting even though the plug fits into the port. I called Alps tech support. They were not very sympathetic. They recommended that I take a razor blade and whittle away at the "excess" plastic on the plug until it connects properly. I asked them if they would be correcting this in the near future or if they would label their product accordingly (that they will not work with TPs). They said no because (get this) the IBM TPs are not a large enough portion of the laptop market for them to make this change. He said that I could get the serial port version as a workaround. I promptly returned the product. Lu Lok From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 01:52:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00449; Mon, 3 Jul 95 01:52:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23153; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 01:42:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 01:42:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23137; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 01:42:14 -0400 Received: from scunix4.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 01:42:12 -0400 Message-Id: <199507030542.BAA12315@husc.harvard.edu> Received: from fas.harvard.edu by scunix4.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA09547; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 01:43:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 01:43:49 -0400 X-Sender: chan4@scunix3.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Cat Tongues!!! Part II!!! X-Mailer: Well...after paying $15 a pop for the Genuine IBM Thinpad Caps(TM), I found the same things for $3 at Micro Center (subsidary of the same company that owns Winbook Corporation). They sell boxes containing 3 caps for $3. The boxes are labeled as "Winbook Pointing Stick Covers" or somethign to that effect. Hmm... -- "Women...can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em..." -- Tom Arnold (True Lies) Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 05:21:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13706; Mon, 3 Jul 95 05:21:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA07123; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 05:08:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 05:08:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA07112; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 05:08:45 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa05940; 3 Jul 95 9:41 +0100 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ad29915; 3 Jul 95 9:41 +0100 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: aenna@ibm.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755 - MMOS2 WARP Installation Date: Mon, 3 Jul 95 9:22:01 BST Message-Id: <9507030922.aa16414@hipass.filct.com> I couldn't get this to work either. IBM sent me the latest MWave drivers, but still nothing works (same goes for the modem). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 07:10:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18540; Mon, 3 Jul 95 07:10:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA17430; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 06:59:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 06:59:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA17418; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 06:59:56 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17808; Mon, 3 Jul 95 07:00:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 95 07:00:32 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507031100.AA17808@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: lokl@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Glidepoint nothing so strange in saying that the Thinkpads are too small a market for them to worry about. I am sure that notebooks with good built-in pointing devices are *not* their major market :-) still it sounds like a failure of standards somewhere. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 08:35:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21878; Mon, 3 Jul 95 08:35:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21741; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 08:25:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 08:25:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21725; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 08:25:32 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3286; Mon, 03 Jul 95 08:26:43 -0400 Message-Id: <9507031226.AA3286@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 00379D747BAA47F1852561EE00438371; Mon, 3 Jul 95 08:26:41 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 3 Jul 95 8:20:36 Subject: Re: AC Adapter for use in England Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....???!!!! _Where_??? I desperately need a second adaptor, and I had not gotten one (I need one for my desk at work, but was unwilling to shell out $100 to save me the trouble of carrying one to and fro from home, but I'll spend $50!!!) because of the cost. Tell me where, where where!!??...." PC Direct 1-800-IBM-2YOU. I don't recall the part number, but just ask for the World Wide AC adapter for the 75X. Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 10:11:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27321; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:11:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27507; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 09:59:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 09:59:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27497; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 09:59:09 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3379; Mon, 03 Jul 95 10:00:14 -0400 Message-Id: <9507031400.AA3379@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 996D1DB282D35144852561EE004BA819; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:00:12 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 3 Jul 95 9:50:12 Subject: Re: AC Adapter for use in England Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....Where can you get the multi-voltage adapters? I have been trying to get one for months without success. IMB says they are backordered....." I've been ordering them from PC Direct, one at a time. They always say they're backordered 4-6 weeks, but they keep showing up withing a week. Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communciations Group, Inc. "Women: you can't live with 'em, you can't back over 'em with your 4-wheel drive." -----Ted Nugent, from the 1987 Women: You Can't Live With 'Em, You Can't Back Over 'Em With Your 4-Wheel Drive Tour. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 11:30:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00348; Mon, 3 Jul 95 11:30:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02751; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:16:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:16:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from bonjour.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02741; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:15:58 -0400 Received: by bonjour.cc.columbia.edu id AA13272 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:15:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:15:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Paulo Magalhaes X-Sender: pm119@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: AC Adapter for use in England In-Reply-To: <199506301822.OAA29898@genesis.ait.psu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Jun 1995, Arnold Shapiro wrote: > I will be using my 750C in England. > > It uses the AC Adapter P/N 49G2194. > > [it also lists 49G2192 & FRU P/n 49G2196] > > Will this adapter work in England? > > Do I need any other equipment? I've used the adapter on both sides of the Atlantic, with no problems at all. The only thing you need is a "shape-adapter" for the plug at the end of the cable that goes into the wall. In other words, as long as you can stick the plug into the wall, you're up and running. Hope this helps Paulo From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 11:41:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00486; Mon, 3 Jul 95 11:41:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03513; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:31:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:31:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from math.rutgers.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03495; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:31:13 -0400 Received: (from moy@localhost) by math.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq+grosshack/8.6.12) id LAA27924 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:31:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:31:09 -0400 From: moy Message-Id: <199507031531.LAA27924@math.rutgers.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: need binary or source for /dev/bmouseps2 I would like to thank the people who sent a response about installing Linux on a ThinkPad. Once I used boot: mount root=/dev/fd0 floppy=thinkpad the boot process (off the boot and root floppies) went fine and I have since installed Linux as well as most of the other *goodies* like emacs and TeX. I have just gotten XFree86 to work except for the following ... To recognize the trackpoint, X-windows seems to need a device with the file name /dev/bmouseps2. When I looked in the my Linux /dev directory, I didn't see a bmouseps2 file. All I saw was a mouse file and so I have configured XFConfig with /dev/mouse instead of /dev/bmouseps2 Would anyone know where I could get either a binary of /dev/smouseps2 or the source to compile it? Thanks in advance. - Allen Moy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 11:44:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00495; Mon, 3 Jul 95 11:44:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03785; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:35:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:35:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from math.rutgers.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03758; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:35:24 -0400 Received: (from moy@localhost) by math.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq+grosshack/8.6.12) id LAA28011; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:35:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:35:20 -0400 From: moy Message-Id: <199507031535.LAA28011@math.rutgers.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: need /dev/bmouseps2 Cc: moy@math.rutgers.edu I would like to thank the people who sent a response about installing Linux on a ThinkPad. Once I used boot: mount root=/dev/fd0 floppy=thinkpad the boot process (off the boot and root floppies) went fine and I have since installed Linux as well as most of the other *goodies* like emacs and TeX. I have just gotten XFree86 to work except for the following ... To recognize the trackpoint, X-windows seems to need a device with the file name /dev/bmouseps2. When I looked in the my Linux /dev directory, I didn't see a bmouseps2 file. All I saw was a mouse file and so I have configured XFConfig with /dev/mouse instead of /dev/bmouseps2 Would anyone know where I could get either a binary of /dev/smouseps2 or the source to compile it? Thanks in advance. - Allen Moy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 11:56:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04451; Mon, 3 Jul 95 11:56:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04561; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:46:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:46:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nadia.ircam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04539; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:46:24 -0400 Received: from wayne.ircam.fr by nadia.ircam.fr, Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:46:12 +0200 Received: by wayne.ircam.fr, Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:46:11 +0200 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:46:11 +0200 From: Jonathan Marshall Message-Id: <199507031546.AA11538@wayne.ircam.fr> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.95) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.95) To: ThinkPad 750 mailing list Subject: 755C Questions I have been through the FAQ for the answers to these questions with no luck - can any of you help me out? 1. Can you use the Lithium Ion batteries from the new CX thinkpads in the 755c? 2. Where can I get the Panasonic CD-ROM from (I live in Paris)? 3. Has anyone had any luck geting any games at all to work with IBM's soundblaster DOS emulator, if so which games? 4. Does a processor uprgade exist for the 755c for 75MHz or even Pentium? 5. Where can I get the tv tuner from and does it work with the 755c? 6. Has any successfully installed NeXTSTEP on the 755c? 7. Is there any cure for pixels failing on the TFT screen? FYI I have a ThinkPad 755C with 8MB ram and 340MB hard disk. Thank you in advance if you can help me out with any of the above. Jonathan email:marshall@ircam.fr From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 12:04:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05608; Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:04:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05008; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:54:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:53:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04998; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:53:56 -0400 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA10246; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:45:21 +0500 Message-Id: <9507031545.AA10246@ globalvision.net> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 95 11:52:54 EDT From: jloyless@globalvision.net (Jane Loyless) Reply-To: jloyless@globalvision.net (Jane Loyless) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail v1.1 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Subject: Re: AC Adapter for use in England I just called PC Direct - it's actually a new item for the TP701C, but it works on the TP75x series. The adapter is in stock right now, however the warehouse is closed this week. It'll ship out next week. Sorry, but I forgot to ask for the part number! >"....???!!!! _Where_??? I desperately need a second adaptor, and I had not >gotten one (I need one for my desk at work, but was unwilling to shell >out $100 to save me the trouble of carrying one to and fro from home, but >I'll spend $50!!!) because of the cost. Tell me where, where where!!??...." > >PC Direct 1-800-IBM-2YOU. I don't recall the part number, but just ask for the >World Wide AC adapter for the 75X. > >Michael J. Verne >mverne@vmedia.com >Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. Jane From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 12:16:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07033; Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:16:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05867; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:05:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:05:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05850; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:05:44 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA26056; Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:05:04 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:05:04 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507031605.AA26056@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Jonathan.Marshall@ircam.fr, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755C Questions 1. No, the batteries are a different physical shape to start with! 2. sorry don't know 3. You have to say which machine, on the 755C, some games work fine, but games like DOOM are limited since they access hardware directly 4. No on Pentium, Yes (we think, I don't know of anyone actually reporting success) on the 75MHz upgrade 5. The TV tuner works with the 755C, no idea where you can buy it 6. I don't think anyone has yet reported success 7. No cure, except to hope that you get enough failing that IBM will replace it -- don't assume they won't replace it, IBM's policy is at least in part based on what the customer expects. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 12:27:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08002; Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:27:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06661; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:16:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:16:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06645; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:16:37 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id MAA14548; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:20:56 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:20:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Jane Loyless Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: AC Adapter for use in England In-Reply-To: <9507031545.AA10246@ globalvision.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Jul 1995, Jane Loyless wrote: > I just called PC Direct - it's actually a new item for the TP701C, but > it works on the TP75x series. The adapter is in stock right now, > however the warehouse is closed this week. It'll ship out next week. > Sorry, but I forgot to ask for the part number! Oops, shoulda written it down myself. I just ordered one, this guy (nice fellow, x0456 at 1-800-IBM-2YOU) knew it off the top of his head - worldwide adaptor for Thinkpad 700 series is what I asked for - and he didn't know anyting about a warehouse being closed, and didn't seem totally clueless. It was $66 and change with shipping. Hope my employer will reimburse me..... ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 12:48:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08546; Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:48:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08094; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:37:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:37:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08084; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:37:12 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3510; Mon, 03 Jul 95 12:38:20 -0400 Message-Id: <9507031638.AA3510@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 033A6DF1C754F340852561EE0059CE55; Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:38:07 To: "Jonathan.Marshall" Cc: TP750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 3 Jul 95 12:28:58 Subject: Re: 755C Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....3. Has anyone had any luck geting any games at all to work with IBM's soundblaster DOS emulator, if so which games? 7. Is there any cure for pixels failing on the TFT screen?...." To the games question: don't count on it. The MWave is, technologically, a fantastic multimedia chipset, but, unfortunately for most of IBM's customers, the multimedia world doesn't revolve around superior technology, it revolves around Creative Labs. And "SoundBlaster compatability" is a relative thing. The best I can tell you (& what IBM will tell you) is that what works works & what doesn't doesn't. I seem to remember that some of IBM's funky SB drivers were written for Windows only, so DOS games had to be run in a DOS full-screen session, but that might not have been MWave. To the pixel question: I don't think there's any way to resurrect them. IBM has a standard for the acceptable number of bad pixels before they'll replace the screen. I don't remember the number, but count your bad pixels & give them a call. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 13:04:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09297; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:04:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08828; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:53:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:53:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08818; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:53:27 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3535; Mon, 03 Jul 95 12:54:37 -0400 Message-Id: <9507031654.AA3535@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id CCBADA8FC27D22C4852561EE005A93A2; Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:54:26 To: "Jonathan.Marshall" Cc: TP750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 3 Jul 95 12:38:32 Subject: Re: 755C Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....3. Has anyone had any luck geting any games at all to work with IBM's soundblaster DOS emulator, if so which games? 7. Is there any cure for pixels failing on the TFT screen?...." ~~~~~~~~~~ To the games question: don't count on it. "SoundBlaster compatability" is a relative thing. While the MWave chipset is technologically fantastic, the multimedia world does not revolve around fantastic technology. It revolves around Creative Labs. The best I can tell you (and what IBM will tell you) is that what works works & what doesn't doesn't. Anything written to talk register-level to a SB card, like Doom & Heretic, won't work on anything but the SB & a few others, like Sony, that have it figured out. I seem to recall some of IBM's funky SB drivers were written for Windoze only, so DOS games need to be run in a DOS full-screen session, but I don't remember if it was MWave. I don't do much w/multimedia anymore. To the pixel question: IBM has a standard acceptable number of bad pixels on Thinkpads, at which threshold they will replace the screen. I don't think there's any way to resurrect them one at a time. I don't remember what the standard is, but count your bad ones & call IBM. Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. "They pay you for this? ......suckers!!!!" ----Billy Kopecki, from "Big" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 13:17:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09729; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:17:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09448; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:05:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:05:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09432; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:05:21 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3539; Mon, 03 Jul 95 13:06:26 -0400 Message-Id: <9507031706.AA3539@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 3AA10D5DAE83CB97852561EE005BB102; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:06:24 To: tp750 , dwhite From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 3 Jul 95 12:56:41 Subject: Re: Glidepoint Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....Yah, ditto. I'd own a Lexmark keyboard w/trackpoint for my desktop machine if they made them with bus mice connectors (instead of PS2 connectors) or if I could find a converter gadget. Unfortunately I...." ~~~~~~~~~~ You can find those converter gadgets at many computer stores, but *do not* use them on the TrackPoint keyboard. You will most likey fry either the keyboard or your system board. It *will* convert the pins, but there is a dangerous voltage difference between the TrackPoint signal & a typical mouse signal. Also, I don't mean to sound picky, this is really just FYI: the term "bus mouse" refers to the PS/2 style mouse connector (5-pin mini-din). The one you want is a serial mouse connector. If anyone hears of IBM announcing a Trackpoint keyboard with a serial mouse connector, please let me know. I have a serial mouse at home & would love a Trackpoint. Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. "My goat knows the bowling score, hallelujia!" ---Antonio on "Wings" attempting to sing "Michael, Row Your Boat Ashore" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 13:36:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10757; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:36:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10308; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:24:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:24:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10298; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:24:13 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3554; Mon, 03 Jul 95 13:25:24 -0400 Message-Id: <9507031725.AA3554@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 1453DC4C120AA565852561EE005D3037; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:24:12 To: sandy , tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 3 Jul 95 13:12:13 Subject: Re: IBM & Microsoft don't support WFWG on 755? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....755CX yesterday, I called IBM's Help Center to find out why. IBM told me they don't support WFWG on the 755 and to call Microsoft. Microsoft says they don't support WFWG on ThinkPads (including 755). I think this SUCKS. These companies are like two kids bickering with each other. Unfortunately, it's their customers who are suffering. Based on some of your feedback, it appears I need to reformat my hard drive, reload DOS and WFWG, and everything should work okay. I guess I'll never find out why WFWG won't load over Windows 3.1 on a 755CX ThinkPAd. IBM and Microsoft sure won't tell me. Does WFWG run okay on a 755 ThinkPad or is this just "politics"...." ~~~~~~~~~~ "....I don't know if this will solve the problem, but I have have some faint memory that I had to uninstall the display drivers, upgrade, and then reinstall them. That is, windows has problems using the 32-bit display drivers during the install - use the ordinary VGA driver temporarily....." ~~~~~~~~~~ IBM won't support WFWG on any boxes until they start shipping it preloaded, like almost everyone else in the world is doing. I think it sucks, too, because, networking aside, there isn't much difference. WFWG runs just fine on 755s. I have some running IBM's Windoze preload with the WFWG Upgrade ($45) & some have been reformatted & have pure WFWG installed. I can't find a difference except that by doing the upgrade, you don't lose all the program icons that IBM ships installed. I have learned the hard way that you really should make those diskette factory backups before you do anything with your box. Otherwise IBM will have no mercy on you. Eric's right about the video. I've had problems when I don't bump it down to VGA before installing the upgrade, install it set to VGA, then go back to whatever you want to run. What is the big deal with 32-bit disk access?!? It's *not* twice as fast, not nearly. As far as I know, it simply doubles the length, not the width, of the I/O stream, cutting out a very small amount of I/O overhead. 32-bit File access seems to have a greater improvement on performance than disk access and it doesn't bring all the compatability issues with it that 32-bit disk access has. OK, I've done my spring email cleaning for the week. I'll leave you all alone now. Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 13:44:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11071; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:44:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10827; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:34:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:34:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10815; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:34:42 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA26426; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:34:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:34:00 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507031734.AA26426@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Jonathan.Marshall@ircam.fr, Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com Subject: Re: 755C Questions Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU "count your bad pxels and give them a call" don't look atht e IBM standard, it is absurd (something like 17 bad pixels before they will replace), instead call and complain, and see where you get. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 13:57:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11896; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:57:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11332; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:45:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:44:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mailgate.exnet.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11258; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:43:36 -0400 Received: from exnet.com (assam.exnet.com) by mailgate.exnet.com with SMTP id AA10129 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 3 Jul 1995 18:39:48 +0100 Received: from maildrop.exnet.com (ceylon.exnet.com) by exnet.com with SMTP id AA10807 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 3 Jul 1995 18:39:21 +0100 Received: from fonix.UUCP by maildrop.exnet.com (4.1/client-1.4DHD) id AA16125; Mon, 3 Jul 95 18:02:36 BST To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755CE telephony kits From: patrick.whittick@fonix.org (PATRICK WHITTICK) Message-Id: <8AC74D2.009600805E.uuout@fonix.org> Date: Sun, 02 Jul 95 20:34:00 +0100 Organization: FONiX Info Systems * Berkshire UK * (+44) (1344) 306991 Reply-To: patrick.whittick@fonix.org (PATRICK WHITTICK) X-Mailreader: PCBoard Version 15.21 X-Mailer: PCBoard/UUOUT Version 1.10 I've recently got my hands on a 755CE (16MB RAM, 540MB HDD), and intend to use the DSP instead of buying a PCMCIA card. Unfortunately, the telephony kit was omitted from the order (oops !); can anyone tell me what's included in it, as it seems very expensive (150 pounds here in Britain). Also, as all I *really* need is a modem cable, is it possible to just purchase one of these ? TIA Regards patrick.whittick@fonix.org - Patrick Whittick in Great Dunmow, England --- . CMPQwk 1.42-R2 9237 . If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 14:06:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12186; Mon, 3 Jul 95 14:06:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11859; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:54:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:54:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from venus.Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11847; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:54:23 -0400 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM by venus.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) id KAA29727; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 10:53:37 -0700 Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA12269; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 10:53:32 -0700 Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA28320; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 10:53:34 -0700 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05974; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 10:54:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 10:54:20 -0700 From: cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9507031754.AA05974@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: Jonathan.Marshall@ircam.fr, Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@LGATE.vmedia.com Subject: Re: 755C Questions Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU The question: >>"....3. Has anyone had any luck geting any games at all to work with IBM's >>soundblaster DOS emulator, if so which games? The bogus response from (Michael J. Verne) :-) To the games question: don't count on it. "SoundBlaster compatability" is a relative thing. While the MWave chipset is technologically fantastic, the multimedia world does not revolve around fantastic technology. It revolves around Creative Labs. The best I can tell you (and what IBM will tell you) is that what works works & what doesn't doesn't. Anything written to talk register-level to a SB card, like Doom & Heretic, won't work on anything but the SB & a few others, like Sony, that have it figured out. I seem to recall some of IBM's funky SB drivers were written for Windoze only, so DOS games need to be run in a DOS full-screen session, but I don't remember if it was MWave. I don't do much w/multimedia anymore. Its a common mistake, this should be in the FAQ. The "C" series of think pads, 750C, 750Cs, 755C, 755Cs, ... use a custom audio chip that is _NOT_ register compatible with the sound blaster. IBM provides a hack (sbaudio) that trys to work by using the "virtual" mode of the 486 to trap accesses to the sound blaster I/O addresses and emulate those accesses in software. This hack does _NOT_ work on DOOM and any game that uses a "DOS Extender" to go into 32 bit mode while operating (and more and more of them do since there are most 386 and above systems out there). IBM provides windows drivers and they do work for windows applications. The "CE" series 755CE, etc. Which use the Mwave chip *are* register compatible with the sound blaster. This is one of its advertised features. If you have the built in modem (modem connector on the _back_ of your ThinkPad) then you have an MWave chip. You _can_ run DOOM and games like this, on this chip, because writing to the soundblaster port addresses does the "right thing" as far as the MWave is concerned. These machines are more expensive then there 'C' (non-MWave) cousins. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 14:23:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12657; Mon, 3 Jul 95 14:23:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12706; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:12:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:12:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12695; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:12:52 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3594; Mon, 03 Jul 95 14:14:02 -0400 Message-Id: <9507031814.AA3594@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 3631FA40A4C363D0852561EE006289B5; Mon, 3 Jul 95 14:13:54 To: cmcmanis , tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 3 Jul 95 14:02:36 Subject: Re: 755C Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....The "CE" series 755CE, etc. Which use the Mwave chip *are* register compatible with the sound blaster. This is one of its advertised features. If you have the built in modem (modem connector on the _back_ of your ThinkPad) then you have an MWave chip. You _can_ run DOOM and games like this, on this chip, because writing to...." ~~~~~~~~~~ D'oh!! My most humble apologies. Apparently I've been out of the loop longer than I realized. :( Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Comunications Group, Inc. "Even the most primitive societies have an innate respect for the insane." ---S.E. Hinton, from "Rumble Fish" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 14:58:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14296; Mon, 3 Jul 95 14:58:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14580; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:48:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:48:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14569; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:48:31 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3609; Mon, 03 Jul 95 14:49:39 -0400 Message-Id: <9507031849.AA3609@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id C7D497DA9D7849F0852561EE0066368B; Mon, 3 Jul 95 14:49:37 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 3 Jul 95 14:41:24 Subject: 755Cs multimedia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain All this talk about multimedia. So, what comes across my desk, but a request for a multimedia kit for the 755Cs. I want to give them a PCMCIA all-in-one deal. Anyone been there, done that? I'd hate to order, test & return a half dozen kits before I get something that works. Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communciations Group, Inc. "There's only one way to tell if a woman really loves you: If she'll have your dog." ---some cheesy late '70 "Shaft"-esque band From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 14:58:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14554; Mon, 3 Jul 95 14:58:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14536; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:47:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:47:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jupiter.cast.msstate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14525; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:47:29 -0400 Received: from Berea.CAST.MsState.Edu by jupiter.cast.msstate.edu (4.1/6.0s-FWP); id AA25328; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:47:02 CDT Received: by Berea.CAST.MsState.Edu (920330.SGI/6.0c-FWP); id AA18165; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:47:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:47:00 +36000 From: Valentine Anantharaj To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Thirdparty (not TP-Proven by IBM) memory for 75X Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There seems to be roughly $200 price difference between TP-Proven (IBM Authorized) 16MB memory and the ones from non-TP-Proven vendors. Apparently, only IBM, Apex, and Apricorn 16 MB DRAM cards seem to be TP-Proven, and IBM 16 MB DIMMS alone are TP-Proven. Who are the other reputable memory vendors beside the three above? I believe some offer a lifetime warranty (whatever that means) eventhough not TP-Proven? What are the experiences in this forum with these thirdparty memory? Also, if I added one of these non-TP-Proven DRAM or DIMM would it void the IBM International Warranty on the TP? Regards, VGA Valentine G. Anantharaj --------------- val@cast.msstate.edu --- MSU - Center for Air-Sea Technology vga1@ra.msstate.edu | Bldg. 1103, Room 233 Tel.: (601)688-1157 | Stennis Space Center Fax: (601)688-7100 | MS 39529-5005 -------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 14:58:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14559; Mon, 3 Jul 95 14:58:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14474; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:46:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:46:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14464; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:46:10 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id OAA28141; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:50:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:50:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Michael Verne/VENTANA Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: Glidepoint In-Reply-To: <9507031706.AA3541@LGATE.vmedia.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Jul 1995, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: > "....Yah, ditto. I'd own a Lexmark keyboard w/trackpoint for my desktop > machine if they made them with bus mice connectors (instead of PS2 > connectors) or if I could find a converter gadget. Unfortunately I...." > > You can find those converter gadgets at many computer stores, but *do not* use ... > Also, I don't mean to sound picky, this is really just FYI: the term "bus > mouse" refers to the PS/2 style mouse connector (5-pin mini-din). The one you > want is a serial mouse connector. If anyone hears of IBM announcing a You don't sound picky, just wrong. You're in good company, though - almost all the companies making mice use the term "bus mouse" to refer to PS2 type mice. This is, as you said, very wrong, but for a different reason. _I_, on the other hand, actually do use a BUS mouse an older standard for non-serial mice. My ATI Graphics Ultra Pro has a bus mouse connector built into it, which I prefer to use so I don't have to use a serial mouse. However, NOBODY makes mice/trackballs with bus connectors on them anymore, only PS2 and Serial. There _are_ serial to ps2 converters, but that does me no good. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 15:02:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14694; Mon, 3 Jul 95 15:02:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14730; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:50:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:50:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14718; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 14:50:48 -0400 Received: from hp715.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA06124; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:49:22 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.16//ident-1.0) id AA026277832; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:57:12 -0600 Message-Id: <199507031857.AA026277832@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: need /dev/bmouseps2 To: moy@math.rutgers.edu (moy) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:57:12 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moy@math.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199507031535.LAA28011@math.rutgers.edu> from "moy" at Jul 3, 95 11:35:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I would like to thank the people who sent a response about installing > Linux on a ThinkPad. Once I used > boot: mount root=/dev/fd0 floppy=thinkpad > the boot process (off the boot and root floppies) went fine and I > have since installed Linux as well as most of the other *goodies* like > emacs and TeX. Hurray! > I have just gotten XFree86 to work except for the following ... > > To recognize the trackpoint, X-windows seems to need a device with > the file name /dev/bmouseps2. When I looked in the my Linux /dev > directory, I didn't see a bmouseps2 file. All I saw was a mouse file > and so I have configured XFConfig with /dev/mouse instead of > /dev/bmouseps2 Would anyone know where I could get either a binary > of /dev/smouseps2 or the source to compile it? The device to use is /dev/psaux. It should already be in your /dev directory. You may need to compile your own kernel and include PS/2 type mouse support. > Thanks in advance. > - Allen Moy +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 15:32:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16760; Mon, 3 Jul 95 15:32:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16622; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 15:22:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 15:22:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16602; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 15:22:24 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0sSr4M-000DzdC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:22 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: Thirdparty (not TP-Proven by IBM) memory for 75X To: val@cast.msstate.edu (Valentine Anantharaj) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Valentine Anantharaj" at Jul 3, 95 01:47:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > What are the experiences in this forum with these thirdparty memory? We have over 50 TPs of various models, and use mostly Kingston memory cards (DRAM) for them. I've personally used the Kingston 16MB card in the 750C, 755CE, 755CD and the 755CX without any problems. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 16:14:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19460; Mon, 3 Jul 95 16:14:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19624; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:00:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:00:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19608; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:00:41 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3693; Mon, 03 Jul 95 16:01:52 -0400 Message-Id: <9507032001.AA3693@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 81070E0D41A05F2A852561EE006CD93E; Mon, 3 Jul 95 16:01:45 To: dwhite , tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 3 Jul 95 15:52:21 Subject: Re: Glidepoint Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....serial mouse. However, NOBODY makes mice/trackballs with bus connectors on them anymore, only PS2 and Serial. There _are_ serial to ps2 converters,...." ~~~~~~~~~~ Whew! Tough room. So, you've seen serial port trackpoint keyboards? Who? IBM? If not, is it a worthy clone? Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 16:23:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20201; Mon, 3 Jul 95 16:23:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22309; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:12:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:12:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22289; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:12:26 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3701; Mon, 03 Jul 95 16:13:36 -0400 Message-Id: <9507032013.AA3701@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 807A6B08B0ED2B88852561EE006D49C1; Mon, 3 Jul 95 16:13:28 To: val , tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 3 Jul 95 16:01:37 Subject: Re: Thirdparty (not TP-Proven by IBM) memory for 75X Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....TP-Proven, and IBM 16 MB DIMMS alone are TP-Proven. Who are the other reputable memory vendors beside the three above? I believe some offer a lifetime warranty (whatever that means) eventhough not TP-Proven? What are the experiences in this forum with these thirdparty memory? Also, if I added one of these non-TP-Proven DRAM or DIMM would it void the IBM International Warranty on the TP?...." ~~~~~~~~~~ I've had nothing but success with the Viking Platinum 16MB cards & the Simple Technology 16MB cards. I don't remember how much the Viking cost, but the Simple 16MB card is $750. I had a bad SIMM socket on one of the TPs & tech support at IBM never mentioned voiding the warranty by using Simple cards. They just don't guarantee they'll work. I had to also try an IBM card for them to work on the box. I got a new system board, so I guess it wasn't void. Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 16:41:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20994; Mon, 3 Jul 95 16:41:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25699; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:27:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:27:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25677; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:27:23 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id NAA12258; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:27:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199507032027.NAA12258@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 95 13:29:19 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Trackpoint caps I got the part number for the old trackpoint caps as 84g6536. Anyong got the number for the new caps, and a place to get 'em? PC Direct says no go. BTW, I ordered one of the new ac adaptors. Under $50. Supposed to be nice and small, too. ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail |Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, | |in whole or in part. Copyright, 1995. License to distribute this post is | |available to Microsoft for $1,000. Posting without permission constitutes | |an agreement to these terms. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 17:01:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21732; Mon, 3 Jul 95 17:01:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29936; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:51:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:51:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29915; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:51:09 -0400 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id NAA01633 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Mon, 3 Jul 1995 13:51:06 -0700 for CS.UTK.EDU!tp750 Message-Id: <199507032051.NAA01633@mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 1499 for CS.UTK.EDU!tp750; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:55:48 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:55:43 +0000 Subject: Re: Glidepoint Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 I would like the option to use my old mouse in conjuction with the trackpoint. (I don't think CorelDraw would be fun with a trackpoint. ) Can your old serial mouse be used in conjunction with the Lexmark keyboard that includes the trackpoint? Is there something that allows both to control the cursor at the same time. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 17:03:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21740; Mon, 3 Jul 95 17:03:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00461; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:53:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:53:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00448; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 16:53:39 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3738; Mon, 03 Jul 95 16:54:47 -0400 Message-Id: <9507032054.AA3738@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id AD27F869B6F30B13852561EE0071BF27; Mon, 3 Jul 95 16:54:40 To: val , tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 3 Jul 95 16:44:07 Subject: Re: Thirdparty (not TP-Proven by IBM) memory for 75X Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain When I say success, I mean on the 360, 360C, 755C, 755Cs, & 755CD. Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 17:14:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22591; Mon, 3 Jul 95 17:14:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01822; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:02:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:02:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01802; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:02:32 -0400 Received: by explorer-en.dgp.toronto.edu id <144040>; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:02:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: Michael Verne/VENTANA's message as of Jul 3, 12:51pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: Michael Verne/VENTANA , "Jonathan.Marshall" Subject: Re: 755C Questions Cc: TP750 Message-Id: <95Jul3.170219edt.144040@explorer-en.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:02:19 -0400 On Jul 3, 12:51pm, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: } To the pixel question: I don't think there's any way to resurrect them. IBM } has a standard for the acceptable number of bad pixels before they'll replace } the screen. I don't remember the number, but count your bad pixels & give them } a call. Funny thing. I had two bad pixels on my TFT display, one on red and the other on blue. The red one recently decided to return to the land of the living pixels. Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 17:51:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24904; Mon, 3 Jul 95 17:51:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07094; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:41:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:41:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asylum.sf.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07079; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:41:15 -0400 Received: (from lang@localhost) by asylum.sf.ca.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA11607; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:41:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:41:06 -0400 From: Lang Zerner Message-Id: <199507032141.RAA11607@asylum.sf.ca.us> To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Roger J. Buffington's message of Mon, 03 Jul 95 13:29:19 EDT <199507032027.NAA12258@chaph.usc.edu> Subject: Trackpoint caps Reply-To: Lang Zerner >I got the part number for the old trackpoint caps as 84g6536. Anyone got the >number for the new caps, and a place to get 'em? The TrackPoint III replacement caps in my 755CD accessory box came in a bag labeled P/N 84G6537. If PC direct doesn't carry them, try IBM's Maintenance Parts and Warranty Center in Boulder, Colorodo at +1 800 388 7080. I would have asked for the direct-dial (non-800) number, but the Parts Center is closed until July 5. If you are outside the United States and want the direct number, send mail after the 5th and I'll be happy to inquire for you. Be seeing you... --Lang ITC Consulting Group integrated communication consulting services 915 Cole Street #151 networks * publishing * training * design San Francisco, CA 94117 +1 415 861 7688 itc@apocalypse.org From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 17:56:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25083; Mon, 3 Jul 95 17:56:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07488; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:44:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:44:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07476; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:44:04 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA06816; Mon, 3 Jul 95 17:44:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 95 17:44:44 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507032144.AA06816@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TOMF@conic.loral.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Glidepoint I like CorelDraw fine with the trackpoint, I am better on the trackpoint at this stage, even for fine stuff, than a mouse. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 3 18:24:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27291; Mon, 3 Jul 95 18:24:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10458; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 18:07:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 18:07:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10443; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 18:07:36 -0400 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA11458; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:58:47 +0500 Message-Id: <9507032158.AA11458@ globalvision.net> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 95 18:10:38 EDT From: jloyless@globalvision.net (Jane Loyless) Reply-To: jloyless@globalvision.net (Jane Loyless) To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail v1.1 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Subject: Re: Trackpoint caps I ordered some of these a couple of weeks ago from the Boulder parts center - 800-388-7080, and the part number was 84G6536. It's $5 + shipping for a package of 4 - there's 2 of the older smooth caps and 2 of the cat-tongue ones in the package. I called at 5PM EDT, and they showed up the next day! On Mon, 03 Jul 95 13:29:19 EDT you wrote: >I got the part number for the old trackpoint caps as 84g6536. Anyong >got the number for the new caps, and a place to get 'em? PC Direct >says no go. > >BTW, I ordered one of the new ac adaptors. Under $50. Supposed to be >nice and small, too. > >----------------------------------- >Roger J. Buffington >USC Law, Class of '97 >AB6WR >Go Trojans!! >WARPing with PM-Mail > >|Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, | >|in whole or in part. Copyright, 1995. License to distribute this post is | >|available to Microsoft for $1,000. Posting without permission constitutes | >|an agreement to these terms. > > Jane From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 4 00:00:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15664; Tue, 4 Jul 95 00:00:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02607; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:49:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:49:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hp.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02597; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:49:30 -0400 Received: from hpbs4531.boi.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA299409768; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 20:49:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199507040349.AA299409768@hp.com> Received: by hpbs4531.boi.hp.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA06364; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 21:48:33 -0600 From: Binnur Al-Kazily Subject: new comer to the list To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad List) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 95 21:48:33 MDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] As a newcomer, I was asked to give a little description of my system, so here we go: * ThinkPad 755CD w/ 40MB RAM and 810MB HD (no pentium upgrade, yet..) * memory: 32MB Kingston PCMCIA * Dock I docking station w/ CDROM option * I have installed an HP ISA network card in the docking station (my 3COM PCMCIA network card didn't arrive on time..) * running Windows 95 (ver: 4.00.490) as my primary OS * Applications: - Microsoft Office for Win 95 - Microsoft Visual C++ 2.0 - Microsoft Plus! for Windows 95 - and others.. I had this system for about 1 month now, and I am pretty impressed.. But, I still have some problems that are waiting to be solved.. Mostly due to Windows 95, and MWave... MWave...!!! I got the modem to work, but my system doesn't make any sounds other than a faint indication that it is trying very hard to make a soft clicking noise.. Once in a while, I actually hear a sound coming >from it, but then it disappears to nothingness.. So, I would be glad to hear some ideas on how to solve this problem from anyone that got MWave sounds and Windows 95 working together.. That is it.. -- Binnur Al-Kazily -- binnur@boi.hp.com -- Binnur Al-Kazily Hewlett-Packard Network Printers binnur@boi.hp.com (208) 396-6372 KB7YWD DoD #2010 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 4 04:26:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28738; Tue, 4 Jul 95 04:26:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00772; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 04:15:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 04:15:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fris.fris.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00748; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 04:15:37 -0400 Received: from fl1tty02.fris.nl (fl1tty02.fris.nl [193.67.218.67]) by fris.fris.nl (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA00500 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 08:58:24 -0100 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 08:58:24 -0100 Message-Id: <199507040958.IAA00500@fris.fris.nl> X-Sender: janomill@fris.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: janomill@fris.nl (Jan van der Meulen) Subject: subscribe address X-Mailer: Good Morning! A few days ago I bought my first Thinkpad, and I hear there was a list about the TP750 one could subscribe to. Could you please send me the subscribe address? Tia jan Met vriendelijke groeten, Jan van der Meulen, 058137557 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 4 05:52:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05638; Tue, 4 Jul 95 05:52:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11921; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 05:42:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 05:42:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from email.MT.GOV by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11908; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 05:42:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199507040942.FAA11908@CS.UTK.EDU> X-Nvlenv-01Date-Transferred: 3-Jul-1995 17:30:47 -0400; at mhs01.ngm01 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 17:29:53 -0600 To: info-prime@eeyore.usc.edu, eagles@langevin.usc.edu, info-mime@CS.UTK.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ani-l@utkvm1.utk.edu From: Olga.Kosmina@Dekabristov_St.5-178.Kiev-253121.Ukraine.UA Subject: meet women of the former USSR through romance ads ## meet women of the former USSR through romance ads ## Months ago, Olga Kosmina placed my personal ad in several papers of the former Soviet Union. Since that time I have received over 40 responses for the $50 I mailed Olga. (I believe she paid the newspapers something around $35 and kept the rest for her efforts.) I have found greater success and savings by placing my own personal romance advertisement rather than purchasing addresses through Russian "bride" catalog companies. If you are interested in placing a personal romance ad as I did, contact Olga. She has built up a list of most every newspaper and magazine in the former Soviet Union and could help direct your ad to certain areas if you wish. She writes, "please say that I place all ad _throughout_ Russia and other countries of former Soviet Union, not only Western Russia." Olga is 23 years old, has a bachelors in biology and works full-time as a florist in Kiev. She speaks, reads and writes English as well as her native languages of Russian and Ukrainian. I realize that it is a very trusting person who would put $ into an envelope and mail to a foreign country. If you would rather send a letter of inquiry first, Olga will respond to your questions. It takes about 16 days for a letter to travel from the USA to Kiev. Olga Kozmina Dekabristov Street 5 - 178 Kiev 253121 Ukraine I have found that by placing a single bill between two pieces of newsprint inside an envelope, the Ukrainian post cannot see through and does not bother to tamper. I have yet to lose a letter sent to Kiev. I am sorry that Olga does not have e-mail because it would make contact with her much easier. I am posting anonymously because of the inordinate amount of e-mail which I would receive -- inquiries as well as flames. Best Wishes, David and Olga Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net-etiquette," she believes that helping others exceeds the cost of angering those who feel the net should not be used in this fashion. IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site. peace. . . From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 4 07:10:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08897; Tue, 4 Jul 95 07:10:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA15601; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 07:01:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 07:01:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA15589; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 07:01:05 -0400 Received: from orjanr.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/Task/HJ-5) id AA183205656; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 13:00:56 +0200 Received: by orjanr.cs.uit.no (1.38.110.45/HJ/Task-5) id AA041735655; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 13:00:55 +0200 From: orjanr@staff.cs.uit.no (Oerjan W. Robertsen) Message-Id: <199507041100.AA041735655@orjanr.cs.uit.no> Subject: Svideo playback/capture on TP755CD ?? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 13:00:55 +0200 (METDST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, Anyone out there who have tried svideo playback/capture on a TP755CD?? I 'm getting only black and white. No colors. With a composite inputsignal it works just fine. If you can give me any hints please respond directly to orjanr@staff.cs.uit.no - as I'm not currently on the list. Thanks in advance. Xrjan -- # Xrjan W. Robertsen | Phone (work): +47 77 64 42 37 | My name and address # # Technical Support | Cellular : +47 90 09 65 76 | has norwegian chars. # # Computer Sci. Dept. | Phone (priv): +47 77 61 31 85 | in it. '\o{}' and # # University of Tromsx| Fax : +47 77 64 40 54 | '\O{}' TeX notation. # # N-9037 Norway | Finger:orjanr@orjanr.cs.uit.no| I hate using 'oe'. # # e-mail: orjanr@staff.cs.uit.no | url: http://www.cs.uit.no/~orjanr # From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 4 08:03:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11137; Tue, 4 Jul 95 08:03:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17498; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 07:50:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 07:50:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17482; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 07:50:17 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA04651; Tue, 4 Jul 95 07:48:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 95 07:48:27 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507041148.AA04651@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: binnur@hpbs4531.boi.hp.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: new comer to the list Binnur says: * memory: 32MB Kingston PCMCIA do you really mean this, or do you mean you are using a credit card memory that looks like a PCMCIA card and goes under the diskette drive (these are not in fact PCMCIA cards at all). If you really have found a working 32MB PCMCIA card that would be interesting! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 4 09:30:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15136; Tue, 4 Jul 95 09:30:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21645; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 09:19:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 09:19:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mbunix.mitre.org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21635; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 09:19:17 -0400 Received: from mwppp7.mitre.org (mwppp7.mitre.org [128.29.249.7]) by mbunix.mitre.org (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA26253 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 09:19:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199507041319.JAA26253@mbunix.mitre.org> X-Sender: dhite@128.29.86.13 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Jul 1995 09:19:26 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dhite@mitre.org (David Hite) Subject: Windows95? Binnur, I am attaching a message from Todd Tannenbaum which may help with your Windows 95 Mwave problem. David >in my experience, builds of win95 above #480 work great on the thinkpad 755 >(including MWave sound, telephony, modem, everything). > >***NOTE***: if your machine has 16 meg of RAM or less, your fine. IF YOUR >MACHINE HAS MORE THAN 16 meg of RAM (I think you mentioned yours has >24meg?), then in order for the MWave audio stuff to work properly under >win95 (any build) you MUST be running the latest version of the MWave >stuff/drivers *AND* then you MUST install a special patch for >16meg RAM >folks. (if you do not install the patch, some audio functions like MIDI are >inaudible even at max volume). Both the latest drivers and the special >patch are available from the Thinkpad compuserve forum, or from the internet >at the following WWW URL: http://watson.mbb.sfu.ca/ > >again, these bugs do not show up if you have 16meg RAM or less. > >enjoy, >Todd > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >Todd Tannenbaum email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu >Director of the Model Advanced Facility voice phone: (608) 262-3118 >Computer-Aided Engineering Center FAX phone: (608) 265-4546 >University of Wisconsin-Madison > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 4 11:23:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20512; Tue, 4 Jul 95 11:23:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28255; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 11:12:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 11:12:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28245; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 11:12:28 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id LAA12872 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 11:14:23 -0400 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id D6DBF8; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:11:48 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: An Open Letter to Robert From: akiro@channel1.com (Akiro) Message-Id: <40.1081381.700@channel1.com> In-Reply-To: <199506291446.HAA22416@alcor.usc.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 1995 16:15:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: An Open Letter to Robert Dewar > Allow me, if I may, to state what the rest of the TP mailing >list already thinks, but is perhaps too gentlemanly to actually say: >Frankly, I think we're growing just a wee bit weary of your pompous, >arrogant, strutting around. Everytime you send a message it is >couched in an attitude that your word is infallible--as though it >were spoken by the mouth of God, or some other such poppycock. > Would it be too much to simply ask you to be at least cordial? >To have a reasonable degree of deference or perhaps even *respect* for >other posters' thoughts, opinions, or professional expertise that may >even match (or--God forbid--perhaps even *exceed*) your own in some area >or another? Or is it a personal requirement that you always act like an >unmitigated ass? > My apologies to the rest of the list if for some reason I >have misperceived this general overview--feel free to flame (or agree) >at will. I just think its about time to call a spade a spade. >----- ____________________________ >Randy Whittle AGREE 100% AKIRO From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 4 15:01:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03293; Tue, 4 Jul 95 15:01:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09840; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 14:46:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 14:46:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from methi.ndim.edrc.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09830; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 14:46:35 -0400 Message-Id: <199507041846.OAA09830@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from localhost by methi.ndim.edrc.cmu.edu id aa19401; 4 Jul 95 14:46 EDT To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: moy@math.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: need /dev/bmouseps2 In-Reply-To: moy's message of Mon, 3 Jul 1995 11:35:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 04 Jul 95 14:46:24 -0400 From: rp2y@METHI.NDIM.EDRC.CMU.EDU X-Mts: smtp > I have just gotten XFree86 to work except for the following ... > > To recognize the trackpoint, X-windows seems to need a device with > the file name /dev/bmouseps2. When I looked in the my Linux /dev > directory, I didn't see a bmouseps2 file. All I saw was a mouse file > and so I have configured XFConfig with /dev/mouse instead of > /dev/bmouseps2 Would anyone know where I could get either a binary > of /dev/smouseps2 or the source to compile it? First of all, the files in /dev are "special" files (i.e., device files) and not programs. The ThinkPad mouse is a PS/2 mouse. /dev/mouse should be a symbolic link to /dev/psaux (use "ls -l /dev/mouse" to find out). If /dev/mouse points to /dev/psaux, you may need to change your /usr/lib/X11/XF86Config file. This file should have a section that looks similar to this: # ****************************************************************** # Pointer section # ****************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "PS/2" Device "/dev/mouse" If your /dev/mouse points to something other than /dev/psaux, you should try re-running the configuration portion of the install program (i.e., the program that you ran to install linux initially) making sure that you choose the PS/2 mouse as your pointing device. If this doesn't solve the problem AND your XF86Config file is correct, you may need to rebuild your kernel with support for the PS/2 mouse. Instructions on how to do this are given in /usr/src/linux/README. Good luck, Robert -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Robert Patrick (rp2y+@edrc.cmu.edu) Engineering Design Research Center | | n-dim Group Carnegie Mellon University | | World Wide Web: http://tika.ndim.edrc.cmu.edu/~rp2y/Home.html | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Robert Patrick (rp2y+@edrc.cmu.edu) Engineering Design Research Center | | n-dim Group Carnegie Mellon University | | World Wide Web: http://tika.ndim.edrc.cmu.edu/~rp2y/Home.html | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 4 16:19:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11858; Tue, 4 Jul 95 16:19:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14886; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 16:06:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 16:06:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14875; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 16:06:48 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA05605; Tue, 4 Jul 95 16:07:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 95 16:07:27 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507042007.AA05605@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: akiro@channel1.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Robert perhaps it would be a good idea if everyone would spend more effort answering questions (if they know enough to do so), and less effort in meta-discussion! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 4 22:55:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00201; Tue, 4 Jul 95 22:55:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06001; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 22:42:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 22:42:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05991; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 22:42:35 -0400 Received: from p84.slip.net (sfsp117.slip.net [204.160.88.137]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA01367 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 19:42:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 19:42:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199507050242.TAA01367@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: At 05:29 PM 7/3/95 -0600, Olga.Kosmina@Dekabristov_St.5-178.Kiev-253121.Ukraine.UA wrote spammingly: >Subject: meet women of the former USSR through romance ads Presumably, the women in question are all thinkpad users :) ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home [ my machine went down, and I've lost my email archives. if I haven't responded to you, it's possible (though unlikely) that I'm not ignoring you. ] From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 5 00:14:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08020; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:14:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10790; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 00:04:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 00:04:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10780; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 00:04:50 -0400 Received: from scunix4.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 00:04:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199507050404.AAA28774@husc.harvard.edu> Received: from fas.harvard.edu by scunix4.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA21921; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 00:06:32 -0400 X-Sender: chan4@scunix3.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 05 Jul 1995 00:03:09 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: HP Scanjet 3c and Dock II X-Mailer: Anyone get their scanjet 3c recognized by the Dock II Adaptec? Well...rather...my scsi programs says it sees the deskjet...but deskscan ii can't communicate w/ the scanner!!!! Ack! (Using winblows 3.1 btw...and I even tried disconnecting all external scsi devices 'cept the scanner and then using the external termination on the scanner...ARGH!) -- "Women...can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em..." -- Tom Arnold (True Lies) Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 5 05:30:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21497; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:30:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA00585; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 05:19:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 05:19:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA00491; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 05:19:22 -0400 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@saturnus-2 [130.235.41.12]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA24275 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:18:10 +0200 Message-Id: <199507050918.LAA24275@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Virtual desktop driver for the WD90C24 under warp? Date: Wed, 05 Jul 1995 11:18:08 +0200 From: Erik Lindahl Hi folks, I wonder if anybody on the list has any experience with the display drivers for the WD card on the 750/some 755s in the above sense? I know that this is possible with the windows drivers, that is on my internal 640x480 screen I have a virtual desktop of 1024x768 that SCROLL smoothly and immediately in the hardware of the card. Since it is possible in windows, it ought to be technically possible in warp? Is there anybody who has managed to do this? I haven't found any place in OS/2 where such choices are made, like the end of system.ini in windows? Have a nice summer, Erik From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 5 08:20:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00253; Wed, 5 Jul 95 08:20:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13308; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:07:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:07:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13298; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:07:02 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa28176; 5 Jul 95 12:42 +0100 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ao01115; 5 Jul 95 12:42 +0100 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, patrick.whittick@fonix.org Subject: Re: 755CE telephony kits Date: Wed, 5 Jul 95 12:19:17 BST Message-Id: <9507051219.aa19477@hipass.filct.com> Unfortunately, the telephony kit was omitted from the order (oops !); can anyone tell me what's included in it, as it seems very expensive (150 pounds here in Britain). Also, as all I *really* need is a modem cable, is it possible to just purchase one of these ? The kit consists of two bits of cable and a box. One cable goes from the TP to the box and has a ferrite (I think) around it, presumably to suppress spikes. The box has various bits to protect the "delicate" BT phone system from your nasty rough Thinkpad. This is a requirement of the BABT approvals stuff. It is expensive, mine took over 2 months to come, but it works. And if you switch the lead to a US type one (which involves a screwdriver since they clip off the lever to stop you doing this), then it works in the US too. Oh what a giveaway :-) Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 5 09:01:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03017; Wed, 5 Jul 95 09:01:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16645; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:49:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:49:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nadia.ircam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16635; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:49:33 -0400 Received: from wayne.ircam.fr by nadia.ircam.fr, Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:49:24 +0200 Received: by wayne.ircam.fr, Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:49:23 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:49:23 +0200 From: Jonathan Marshall Message-Id: <199507051249.AA17579@wayne.ircam.fr> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.95) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.95) To: "Mike O'Carroll" Subject: Re: 755CE telephony kits Cc: ThinkPad 750 mailing list If anyone is interested I have two brand new IBM Thinkpad telephony kits for use in the uk but will also work in the US by changing the connector. They consist of two leads and a box, one has been used once and works perfectly and the other is still sealed in an IBM box. Make me an offer I can't refuse.... Jonathan marshall@ircam.fr From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 5 10:52:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12324; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:52:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25048; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 10:40:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 10:40:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from booz.bah.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25037; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 10:40:50 -0400 Received: from smtpjii.bah.com (smtpjii.bah.com [156.80.9.162]) by booz.bah.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA20861 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 10:38:46 -0400 Received: by smtpjii.bah.com with Microsoft Mail id <2FFACDAA@smtpjii.bah.com>; Wed, 05 Jul 95 10:36:42 PDT From: Phillips Ted To: tp750 Subject: Re: Trackpoint caps Date: Wed, 05 Jul 95 10:44:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FFACDAA@smtpjii.bah.com> Encoding: 55 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I had a simiar experience -- the Boulder parts center shipped me two packages (4 caps each -- two cats tongue, two smooth) for $5 each plus a nominal amount for shipping. I received them in two working days. Not a bad deal considering that these caps were priced higher per ounce than platinum a few months back. BTW - The 8 caps came packed in small plastic ziplock bags, which were inside of two small cardboard boxes, which were shipped in a medium sized cardboard shipping container stuffed with styrofoam peanuts. The amount of trash I threw away from the shipping almost filled a small trashcan. Talk about overkill! Whew, no wonder IBM is going broke. Cheers! P:\Ted phillipst@bah.com ---------- From: owner-tp750 To: buffingt Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: Trackpoint caps Date: Monday, July 03, 1995 6:10PM I ordered some of these a couple of weeks ago from the Boulder parts center - 800-388-7080, and the part number was 84G6536. It's $5 + shipping for a package of 4 - there's 2 of the older smooth caps and 2 of the cat-tongue ones in the package. I called at 5PM EDT, and they showed up the next day! On Mon, 03 Jul 95 13:29:19 EDT you wrote: >I got the part number for the old trackpoint caps as 84g6536. Anyong >got the number for the new caps, and a place to get 'em? PC Direct >says no go. > >BTW, I ordered one of the new ac adaptors. Under $50. Supposed to be >nice and small, too. > >----------------------------------- >Roger J. Buffington >USC Law, Class of '97 >AB6WR >Go Trojans!! >WARPing with PM-Mail > >|Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, | >|in whole or in part. Copyright, 1995. License to distribute this post is | >|available to Microsoft for $1,000. Posting without permission constitutes | >|an agreement to these terms. > > Jane From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 5 11:26:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13764; Wed, 5 Jul 95 11:26:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27487; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:10:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:10:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hp.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27477; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:10:51 -0400 Received: from hpbs4531.boi.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA180047041; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:10:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199507051510.AA180047041@hp.com> Received: by hpbs4531.boi.hp.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA06651; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 09:09:49 -0600 From: Binnur Al-Kazily Subject: Re: new comer to the list To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad List) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 95 9:09:49 MDT In-Reply-To: <9507041148.AA04651@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU>; from "Robert Dewar" at Jul 4, 95 7:48 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] > > Binnur says: > > * memory: 32MB Kingston PCMCIA > > do you really mean this, or do you mean you are using a credit card memory > that looks like a PCMCIA card and goes under the diskette drive (these are > not in fact PCMCIA cards at all). If you really have found a working > 32MB PCMCIA card that would be interesting! > Sorry about the excitement.. I was talking about the credit card memory (IC DRAM) card that looks like a PCMCIA.. -- Binnur Al-Kazily Hewlett-Packard Network Printers binnur@boi.hp.com (208) 396-6372 KB7YWD DoD #2010 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 5 11:39:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14235; Wed, 5 Jul 95 11:39:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29198; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:25:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:25:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29185; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:25:44 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA25465; Wed, 5 Jul 95 11:25:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 95 11:25:31 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507051525.AA25465@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Jonathan.Marshall@ircam.fr, mike@filct.com Subject: Re: 755CE telephony kits Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU can someone explain why one needs a "IBM Thinkpad teelphony kit" in the US, what is it exactly? I thought it was just something you needed outside the US, presumably to cope with local laws. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 5 11:47:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14437; Wed, 5 Jul 95 11:47:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00142; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:35:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:35:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00120; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:35:11 -0400 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA17889; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:26:28 +0500 Message-Id: <9507051526.AA17889@ globalvision.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 95 11:38:14 EDT From: jloyless@globalvision.net (Jane Loyless) Reply-To: jloyless@globalvision.net (Jane Loyless) To: phillipst@bah.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail v1.1 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Subject: Re: Trackpoint caps On Wed, 05 Jul 95 10:44:00 PDT you wrote: >BTW - The 8 caps came packed in small plastic ziplock bags, which were >inside of two small cardboard boxes, which were shipped in a medium sized >cardboard shipping container stuffed with styrofoam peanuts. The amount of >trash I threw away from the shipping almost filled a small trashcan. Talk >about overkill! Whew, no wonder IBM is going broke. No! No! No! Didn't you notice?? Those weren't just meaningless little cardboard boxes!! They're diskette boxes!! (When I was gasping in amazement over the amount of packaging the caps came in, one of my teammates noticed the similarity in size to a floppy and tried it out - you can store up to 20 floppies in each box.) Jane From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 5 12:57:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19160; Wed, 5 Jul 95 12:57:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06139; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 12:44:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 12:44:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from booz.bah.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06128; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 12:44:50 -0400 Received: from smtpjii.bah.com (smtpjii.bah.com [156.80.9.162]) by booz.bah.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA27650; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 12:44:47 -0400 Received: by smtpjii.bah.com with Microsoft Mail id <2FFAEABB@smtpjii.bah.com>; Wed, 05 Jul 95 12:40:43 PDT From: Phillips Ted To: jloyless Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: Trackpoint caps Date: Wed, 05 Jul 95 12:37:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FFAEABB@smtpjii.bah.com> Encoding: 31 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. I guess IBM is guilty of not following the first tenet of conservation, while I'm guilty of not following the other two. Sigh. Cheerio! P:\Ted phillipst@bah.com ---------- From: jloyless To: phillipst Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: Trackpoint caps Date: Wednesday, July 05, 1995 11:38AM On Wed, 05 Jul 95 10:44:00 PDT you wrote: >BTW - The 8 caps came packed in small plastic ziplock bags, which were >inside of two small cardboard boxes, which were shipped in a medium sized >cardboard shipping container stuffed with styrofoam peanuts. The amount of >trash I threw away from the shipping almost filled a small trashcan. Talk >about overkill! Whew, no wonder IBM is going broke. No! No! No! Didn't you notice?? Those weren't just meaningless little cardboard boxes!! They're diskette boxes!! (When I was gasping in amazement over the amount of packaging the caps came in, one of my teammates noticed the similarity in size to a floppy and tried it out - you can store up to 20 floppies in each box.) Jane From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 5 13:32:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21361; Wed, 5 Jul 95 13:32:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08772; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 13:19:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 13:19:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hp.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08756; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 13:19:47 -0400 Received: from hpbs4531.boi.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA030054784; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 10:19:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199507051719.AA030054784@hp.com> Received: by hpbs4531.boi.hp.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA06924; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:18:53 -0600 From: Binnur Al-Kazily Subject: MWave & Windows 95 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad List) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 95 11:18:53 MDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Well, I have the MWave 1.10 and the patch for > 16MB installed on my system.. But, when I try to play wave files, it gives me the following error: " Another application is playing audio.. You can either interrupt the application or wait until it is done. Then try using Sound Recorder again.." I don't know of any other applications that could be trying to play audio.. If I try to play the sounds through Sounds in Control Panel, it thinks: " Windows cannot play the xxxx.wav file. It may be damaged or may not be a valid sound file. Replace the file and try again.." Which are all valid wav files.. So, I have ran out of ideas.. Any ideas as to what I should try next?? -- Binnur Al-Kazily Hewlett-Packard Network Printers binnur@boi.hp.com (208) 396-6372 KB7YWD DoD #2010 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 5 14:58:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28194; Wed, 5 Jul 95 14:58:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14900; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:42:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:42:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14882; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:42:09 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA10985 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:40:45 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA12699 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:41:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:41:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199507051841.LAA12699@shell1.best.com> Subject: Re: MWave & Windows 95 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) >I have the MWave 1.10 and the patch for > 16MB installed on my system.. >But, when I try to play wave files, it gives me the following error: > " Another application is playing audio.. You can either interrupt > the application or wait until it is done. Then try using Sound > Recorder again.." Well, you didn't say which ThinkPad you're using, but I recently installed ALL the new drivers, including the MWave 1.10 and the Memory patch (>16MB) on my 755CX and they seem to work fine. I'd suggest redownloading the driver from pcco.ibm and try installing it again. Others might have more ideas, but you should give us more details. Which ThinkPad model? Which operating system? _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 5 17:27:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10986; Wed, 5 Jul 95 17:27:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29315; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 17:11:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 17:11:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hp.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29301; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 17:11:32 -0400 Received: from hpbs4531.boi.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA268098684; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:11:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199507052111.AA268098684@hp.com> Received: by hpbs4531.boi.hp.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA07015; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 15:10:28 -0600 From: Binnur Al-Kazily Subject: Re: MWave & Windows 95 To: sandy@sandy.com Date: Wed, 5 Jul 95 15:10:28 MDT Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad List) In-Reply-To: <199507051841.LAA12699@shell1.best.com>; from "sandy@sandy.com" at Jul 5, 95 11:41 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Well.. I finally got the sounds and windows 95 to work.. Oh, since I forgot to mention my system before, it is 755CD w/ 40MB memory.. My problem seemed to be combination of the following two: 1) The memory patch did not function correctly.. It did not update any of the files in my system.. This might be the result of having both Windows for Workgroups 3.11 & Windows 95 on the same system.. 2) When I checked out the I/O address & IRQ relating to the MWave in the system.ini, they were both incorrect.. Anyways.. Now, that the sounds are functioning, I can get back to work.. Btw.. Is there a way to increase the sound volume?? I maxed it out in MWave audio controls, but it can still use more, especially during the presentations.. Thanks for all the responses.. > >I have the MWave 1.10 and the patch for > 16MB installed on my system.. > >But, when I try to play wave files, it gives me the following error: > > " Another application is playing audio.. You can either interrupt > > the application or wait until it is done. Then try using Sound > > Recorder again.." > > Well, you didn't say which ThinkPad you're using, but I recently > installed ALL the new drivers, including the MWave 1.10 and the > Memory patch (>16MB) on my 755CX and they seem to work fine. > > I'd suggest redownloading the driver from pcco.ibm and try installing > it again. Others might have more ideas, but you should give us more > details. Which ThinkPad model? Which operating system? > > _\//__ > --Sandy / _ _ \ > ( @ @ ) > +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ > | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | > +-------------- Oooo.--------+ > .oooO ( ) > ( ) ) / > \ ( (_/ > \_) > > > -- Binnur Al-Kazily Hewlett-Packard Network Printers binnur@boi.hp.com (208) 396-6372 KB7YWD DoD #2010 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 5 17:49:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12254; Wed, 5 Jul 95 17:49:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01765; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 17:37:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 17:37:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hp.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01755; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 17:37:22 -0400 Received: from hpbs4531.boi.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA296240237; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:37:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199507052137.AA296240237@hp.com> Received: by hpbs4531.boi.hp.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA07071; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 15:36:27 -0600 From: Binnur Al-Kazily Subject: Re: MWave & Windows 9& Dock I5 & Dock I To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad List) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 95 15:36:27 MDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] This is a follow up to my own previous posting regarding the sound increase.. Just wanted to indicate that I am interested in increasing the sound on the docking (dock I) station.. Is there a physical/software volume control for the Dock I?? System: 755CD.. Windows 95.. Thanks.. > > Well.. I finally got the sounds and windows 95 to work.. Oh, since I > forgot to mention my system before, it is 755CD w/ 40MB memory.. My > problem seemed to be combination of the following two: > > 1) The memory patch did not function correctly.. It did not update > any of the files in my system.. This might be the result of having > both Windows for Workgroups 3.11 & Windows 95 on the same system.. > 2) When I checked out the I/O address & IRQ relating to the MWave > in the system.ini, they were both incorrect.. > > Anyways.. Now, that the sounds are functioning, I can get back to work.. > Btw.. Is there a way to increase the sound volume?? I maxed it out in MWave > audio controls, but it can still use more, especially during the > presentations.. > > Thanks for all the responses.. > > -- Binnur Al-Kazily Hewlett-Packard Network Printers binnur@boi.hp.com (208) 396-6372 KB7YWD DoD #2010 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 5 23:40:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05750; Wed, 5 Jul 95 23:40:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28787; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 23:23:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 23:23:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from HARVARDA.HARVARD.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28762; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 23:23:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199507060323.XAA28762@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from physics1.byu.edu by HARVARDA.HARVARD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Jul 95 23:16:42 EDT Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 21:16:36 -0600 To: info-prime@eeyore.usc.edu, eagles@langevin.usc.edu, info-mime@CS.UTK.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ani-l@utkvm1.utk.edu From: David@wishes.to.remain.anonymous.UA Subject: your romance ad in USSR ] V A U@| Ol (Unverified) ## meet women of the former USSR through romance ads ## Months ago, Olga Kosmina placed my personal ad in several papers of the former Soviet Union. Since that time I have received over 40 responses for the $50 I mailed Olga. (I believe she paid the newspapers something around $35 and kept the rest for her efforts.) I have found greater success and savings by placing my own personal romance advertisement rather than purchasing addresses through Russian "bride" catalog companies. If you are interested in placing a personal romance ad as I did, contact Olga. She has built up a list of most every newspaper and magazine in the former Soviet Union and could help direct your ad to certain areas if you wish. She writes, "please say that I place all ad _throughout_ Russia and other countries of former Soviet Union, not only Western Russia." Olga is 23 years old, has a bachelors in biology and works full-time as a florist in Kiev. She speaks, reads and writes English as well as her native languages of Russian and Ukrainian. I realize that it is a very trusting person who would put $ into an envelope and mail to a foreign country. If you would rather send a letter of inquiry first, Olga will respond to your questions. It takes about 16 days for a letter to travel from the USA to Kiev. Olga Kozmina Dekabristov Street 5 - 178 Kiev 253121 Ukraine I have found that by placing a single bill between two pieces of newsprint inside an envelope, the Ukrainian post cannot see through and does not bother to tamper. I have yet to lose a letter sent to Kiev. I am sorry that Olga does not have e-mail because it would make contact with her much easier. I am posting anonymously because of the inordinate amount of e-mail which I would receive -- inquiries as well as flames. Best Wishes, David and Olga Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net-etiquette," she believes that helping others exceeds the cost of angering those who feel the net should not be used in this fashion. IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site. peace. . . From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 6 00:06:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07762; Thu, 6 Jul 95 00:06:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01289; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 23:53:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 23:53:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01228; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 23:53:38 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA12712; Wed, 5 Jul 95 23:54:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 95 23:54:09 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507060354.AA12712@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: David@wishes.to.remain.anonymous.ua, ani-l@utkvm1.utk.edu, eagles@langevin.usc.edu, info-mime@CS.UTK.EDU, info-prime@eeyore.usc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: your romance ad in USSR ] V A U@| Ol (Unverified) this is one of the most annoying bits of SPAM in a while, I hope that people *do* complain to the post master despite the irritiating plea to the contrary. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 6 04:22:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19595; Thu, 6 Jul 95 04:22:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20835; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 04:09:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 04:09:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20825; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 04:09:22 -0400 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@saturnus-4 [130.235.41.14]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA12946 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 10:09:18 +0200 Message-Id: <199507060809.KAA12946@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Virtual desktop driver for the WD90C24 under warp? Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 10:09:16 +0200 From: Erik Lindahl Regarding your answers: No, this is not what I'm thinking of; a good example is to try it under windows - in the video driver files on the enhanched video disk(or somethink like that? Says tp755CE only, but never mind about that... There is a driver for ordinary 750/755 too...) there is some documentation about these things, and what to put in your system.ini to get it... Basically, you have a 1024x768 screen WITH THE WHOLE SCREEN STORED IN THE DISPLAY MEMORY ON THE CARD. Moving your pointer to the end of the screen means almost INSTANTANEOUS SCROLLING, JUST LIKE WHEN YOU MOVE OM THE SCREEN. The internal 640x480 screen can be visioned as a "window" of the whole screen. (Yes, I have tried it....) On the 755 you can, if you like, have the whole 1024x768 screen on your external monitor, with simultaneous display of a 640x480 scrolling window of the screen on the internal display. Of course i have tried virtual desktop applications for OS/2, I can especially recommend "pagemage" on hobbes, which is freeware!. The point is that these applications may use the hardware scrolling routines, but they still have to make changes in the display memory when moving out of the screen. (Of course this permits you to have desktops much larger than 1024x768) As far as I know this is a hardware feature of the WD cards, you just turn it on or off, why I think it should be possible to use it under warp? Hm.. Sorry for that screaming above ;-) Regards, Erik From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 6 10:41:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11875; Thu, 6 Jul 95 10:41:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27407; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 10:23:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 10:23:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel.lmt.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27390; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 10:23:47 -0400 Received: from leonardo.lmt.com by rigel.lmt.com with SMTP id AA11387 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:30:18 -0500 Received: from LEONARDO/SMTPQUEUE by leonardo.lmt.com (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 6 Jul 95 9:30:25 GMT-6 Received: from SMTPQUEUE by LEONARDO (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 6 Jul 95 9:30:06 GMT-6 From: "Chris Schumann" Organization: LaserMaster Technologies R&D Divn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:30:03 CST6CDT Subject: Re: your romance ad in USSR Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <1C496385FAF@leonardo.lmt.com> > From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) > Subject: Re: your romance ad in USSR ] V A U@| Ol (Unverified) > this is one of the most annoying bits of SPAM in a while, I hope that > people *do* complain to the post master despite the irritiating plea > to the contrary. I completely agree. Would someone be so kind as to track down the offending site and point out the inappropriate behavior of the offender? I'm not a whiz at tracking where mail originates from and (surprise!) mail bounces when sent as a reply. Chris From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 6 12:59:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19724; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:59:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12008; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 12:37:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 12:37:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11992; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 12:36:42 -0400 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8660) id <01HSJN3EMXSG00EAIG@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Thu, 06 Jul 1995 09:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 09:39:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dennis L. Bark" Subject: "DAVID@wishes.to.remain.anonymous.ua" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HSJN3ENQQA00EAIG@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT DAVID: The Internet, E-mail, and Bulletin Boards work, in a civilized society, only if we repect each other. This is a bulletin board for those interested in exchanging information concerning IBM computers. Please do me, and other users of this board, the courtesy of discussing your love interests elsewhere. Thank you so much! D. L. Bark From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 6 16:14:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07988; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:14:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29790; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:51:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:51:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29779; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:51:54 -0400 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA24099; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:39:50 +0500 Message-Id: <9507061939.AA24099@ globalvision.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 95 15:52:06 EDT From: jloyless@globalvision.net (Jane Loyless) Reply-To: jloyless@globalvision.net (Jane Loyless) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail v1.1 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Subject: TP755CX Does anyone know if the ThinkPad 755CX be purchased with the new 1.2GB drive as a replacement for the 810MB drive or does the 1.2GB drive have to be purchased in addition to the 810MB drive? Thanks for the help! Jane From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 6 17:33:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12419; Thu, 6 Jul 95 17:33:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07938; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:15:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:15:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07916; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:15:34 -0400 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8660) id <01HSJWTIZODG00ES9S@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Thu, 06 Jul 1995 14:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 14:18:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dennis L. Bark" Subject: tdp755CE To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HSJWTIZODI00ES9S@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT The tp 755CE comes preloaded with software called "Terminal, accessed via "Accessories" in Windows. When using "Terminal" to connect my tp 755CE, at 9600 baud, to the Stanford University computer system, via Forsythe, my e-mail, for example, slows down by at least 50 percent, and some of my keys lose or change their configurations, e.g. the backspace loses its function completely. Does anyone know why? And, is there an updated version of "Terminal" (I acquired mine in late March). Thank you! D. L. Bark From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 6 17:37:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12507; Thu, 6 Jul 95 17:37:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09801; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:23:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:23:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09779; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:23:47 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA16108; Thu, 6 Jul 95 17:24:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 95 17:24:25 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507062124.AA16108@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jloyless@globalvision.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CX there is no model of the TP755CX that includes the 1.2GB drive, your best bet is to find the 500 meg model and then upgrade the drive. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 6 18:04:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13873; Thu, 6 Jul 95 18:04:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12828; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:53:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:53:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12809; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:53:04 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17465; Thu, 6 Jul 95 17:53:38 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 95 17:53:38 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507062153.AA17465@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: BARK@hoover.stanford.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: tdp755CE terminal is a piece of junk, you should pick up Procomm or some other half way decent package. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 6 18:56:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17170; Thu, 6 Jul 95 18:56:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18177; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 18:43:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 18:43:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from imag.imag.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18152; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 18:43:14 -0400 Received: from safran-28 (safran.imag.fr [129.88.29.1]) by imag.imag.fr (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA12654; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 00:43:06 +0200 Received: (elf@localhost) by safran-28 (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.4) id AAA06846; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 00:43:04 +0200 Message-Id: <199507062243.AAA06846@safran-28> From: Eugene.Fiume@imag.fr (Eugene Fiume) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 00:43:04 -0600 In-Reply-To: Robert Dewar's message as of Jul 7, 12:19am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar), BARK@hoover.stanford.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: tdp755CE On Jul 7, 12:19am, Robert Dewar wrote: } terminal is a piece of junk, you should pick up Procomm or some other } half way decent package. Hard to disagree. I have used kermit for many years, because it works consistently across many platforms and because it's free (though I recommend the book, which isn't free). In its various guises, I have used it under DOS, Windows, Linux and OS/2, and I really appreciate its robustness under noisy line conditions. The TCP/IP support is new but worked pretty well for me; I don't use this feature much now that I run Linux most of the time. Anyway, it can be got from kermit.columbia.edu. Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 6 19:56:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20762; Thu, 6 Jul 95 19:56:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22789; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 19:44:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 19:44:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from orpheus.amdahl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22779; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 19:44:04 -0400 Received: from cessna.oes.amdahl.com by orpheus.amdahl.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sU0a9-0001mFC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:43 PDT Received: by cessna.oes.amdahl.com (5.0/SMI-4.1/DNS) id AA02820; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 16:44:10 +0800 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 16:44:10 +0800 From: lenj@oes.amdahl.com (Len Jacobson) Message-Id: <9507062344.AA02820@cessna.oes.amdahl.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, BARK@hoover.stanford.edu Subject: Re: tdp755CE X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Is this "Terminal" different from the "Terminal" that comes with Windows? I have used that "Terminal" with my 750C without any problem that you describe. And, by the way, I have used it many times to connect on forsythe at Stanford. If this is a different "Terminal" program from the one Microsoft provides, you might want to get a copy of the "vanilla" version. Len Jacobson > The tp 755CE comes preloaded with software called "Terminal, > accessed via "Accessories" in Windows. When using "Terminal" to connect my > tp 755CE, at 9600 baud, to the Stanford University computer system, via > Forsythe, my e-mail, for example, slows down by at least 50 percent, and some > of my keys lose or change their configurations, e.g. the backspace loses its > function completely. > > Does anyone know why? And, is there an updated version of "Terminal" > (I acquired mine in late March). Thank you! D. L. Bark From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 6 21:37:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27084; Thu, 6 Jul 95 21:37:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02301; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 21:24:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 21:24:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02283; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 21:24:42 -0400 Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V4.3-9 #5488) id <01HSKBQI5OPCIDR8EE@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu>; Thu, 06 Jul 1995 21:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V4.3-9 #5488) id <01HSKBQ8L15SIBASEP@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu>; Thu, 06 Jul 1995 21:22:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu by jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu id <1308-4>; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 21:22:00 -0400 Received: by n2ell (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sU24v-0003A8C; Thu, 6 Jul 95 21:19 EDT Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 21:19:00 -0400 From: pcolsen@n2ell.columbia.md.us (Peter C. Olsen P.E.) Subject: TP 750Cs, Docking Station, CDROM, and Linux To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: pcolsen@acm.org Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I'm writing to see if anyone can tell me how to get Linux to recognize the CDROM in the docking station for my TP 750Cs. I've tried compiling kernels with recognition forced for both Adaptec and FD-8xx drivers; neither worked. The BIOS ID string seems to be at near 0xca000. Thanks! Peter -- Peter Olsen, P.E., pcolsen@acm.org P.O. Box 410, Simpsonville, MD 21150-0410 USA, 410-997-8584 "Engineering is the art of applying a professional knowledge of mathematics and the physical sciences to improve the quality of life." From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 6 23:27:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04274; Thu, 6 Jul 95 23:27:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11668; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 23:09:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 23:09:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from math.rutgers.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11658; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 23:09:34 -0400 Received: (from moy@localhost) by math.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq+grosshack/8.6.12) id XAA01735 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 23:09:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 23:09:32 -0400 From: moy Message-Id: <199507070309.XAA01735@math.rutgers.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: floppy problem with Linux on TP With help from this mailing list, I have installed Linux (1.2.9) and X-windows on a TP 755C. In the case of Linux 1.2.9, I had to *make* it after pulling it off the sunsite ftp site so that I could have the pcmcia card services package developed by David Hinds. The March 95 InfoMagic CD I have been using for the installation only has 1.2.1. However, I have noticed that Linux (1.2.9 and even 1.2.1) have the following problem(s) (1) Linux does not properly mount a msdos floppy with the command mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt In fact I cannot mount any type of floppy file system with Linux (2) nor do the mtools commands such as mdir or mcopy work Of course, when I used dos to rawrite the boot and root disk from a Linux Distribution CDROM, I managed to boot from them, but otherwise I have not been able to use the floopy. I have no problems with a scsi CDROM nor a scsi HD. The following is are some examples of errors I get bash# fdformat /dev/fd0 Double-sided, 80 tracks, 18 sec/track. Total capacity 1440 kB. Formatting ... 1 ioctl(FDFMTTRK): Invalid argument bash# fdformat /dev/fd0 ioctl(FDGETPRM): No such device bash# mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device bash# mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device Has anybody else run into this problem and found a solution? - Allen Moy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 02:38:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13790; Fri, 7 Jul 95 02:38:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27801; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 02:18:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 02:18:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27762; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 02:18:44 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 95 02:19 EDT From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: moy@math.rutgers.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Thu, 6 Jul 1995 23:09:32 -0400 from moy Subject: floppy problem with Linux on TP Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 23:09:32 -0400 From: moy However, I have noticed that Linux (1.2.9 and even 1.2.1) have the following problem(s) (1) Linux does not properly mount a msdos floppy with the command mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt In fact I cannot mount any type of floppy file system with Linux (2) nor do the mtools commands such as mdir or mcopy work In the file "/etc/lilo.conf" you must have a line like the following: append="floppy=thinkpad" If you don't have an append= line, add one like the above. If you have append="" replace it with the one above. If you have append=, and it contains something in the quotes, add floppy=thinkpad inside the quotes, separated from the other text by a space. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 11:15:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12809; Fri, 7 Jul 95 11:15:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24039; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:53:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:53:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24026; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:52:59 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id KAA28840; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:57:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:57:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: AC Adaptor Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My new ac adaptor came in the mail from PC Direct today, Airboune Express. Guess the warehouse wasn't closed after all. This thing is just too cool! It looks like a pack of cigarettes on steroids, is designed to wrap the adaptor->pad cable around itself and has a little velcor strap to hold it wound when you are carrying it this way. It comes with a very short adaptor->ac cable which the instructions demand you ONLY use, a reccomendation I promptly discarded. [Would be a great idea on a desk, but I'd rather not have the thing banging around on my tile floor at home...] If any of you travel, I reccomend this thing - it's a LOT smaller than the normal AC adaptor that came with the 750s, and slightly smaller than the ones that came with the little flip-plug. And as was mentioned in the past, it's auto switching for you euro-folk. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 11:31:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13783; Fri, 7 Jul 95 11:31:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26282; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 11:17:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 11:17:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26263; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 11:17:38 -0400 Received: from lorax.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id AA14071; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 11:12:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 95 11:09:31 EDT From: "Gary E. Moore" Subject: 755CD & CUseeMe To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone had any luck using the CUseeMe program on a 755CD? I can't seem to get the program to recognize the video board. Any suggestions? -------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Moore Ventana Communications Group gary@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/gary -------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 11:51:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15451; Fri, 7 Jul 95 11:51:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29873; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 11:38:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 11:38:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from imag.imag.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29811; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 11:38:22 -0400 Received: from safran-28 (safran.imag.fr [129.88.29.1]) by imag.imag.fr (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA12340; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:37:54 +0200 Received: (elf@localhost) by safran-28 (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.4) id RAA13127; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:37:54 +0200 Message-Id: <199507071537.RAA13127@safran-28> From: Eugene.Fiume@imag.fr (Eugene Fiume) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:37:54 -0600 In-Reply-To: Don Whiteside's message as of Jul 7, 5:23pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Don Whiteside , Thinkpad List Subject: Re: AC Adaptor On Jul 7, 5:23pm, Don Whiteside wrote: } This thing is just too cool! It looks like a pack of cigarettes on } steroids, is designed to wrap the adaptor->pad cable around itself and } has a little velcor strap to hold it wound when you are carrying it this } way. ... It may be cool, but my oh my does it ever run hot when recharging from 220V. When I plug mine to a 220V power supply, I hear an audible (obviously!) snap, which I've attributed to some kind of voltage switching circuit. Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 12:15:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17526; Fri, 7 Jul 95 12:15:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02047; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:01:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:01:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asylum.sf.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02036; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:01:23 -0400 Received: (from lang@localhost) by asylum.sf.ca.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA10155; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:01:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:01:21 -0400 From: Lang Zerner Message-Id: <199507071601.MAA10155@asylum.sf.ca.us> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Don Whiteside's message of Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: AC Adaptor Reply-To: Lang Zerner There is a small problem in the design of the AC adaptor. The end that plugs into the ThinkPad is a rigid connector about 1.5in (3.75cm) long that sticks straight back from the ThinkPad. When I was working with IBM to diagnose a problem (turned out to be a bad DSP card), they asked for my machine's serial number each time I called. That means I had to tilt the machine up to see the tag on the bottom. It's easy to forget that the plug is back there. The first tilt back did the most damage to the connector, and I managed to do it once or twice more. Although the connector is still electrically sound, another accident like that will probably crack the connecting plug in two, so I ordered the old 40W "travel adapter" as a replacement. The travel adapter is the one with the retractable wall plug and a ThinkPad plug that is only about .5in (1.25cm) long. PC Direct doesn't carry it, but it is still available from the Boulder Parts Center for US$85. Be seeing you... --Lang ITC Consulting Group integrated communication consulting services 915 Cole Street #151 networks * publishing * training * design San Francisco, CA 94117 +1 415 861 7688 itc@apocalypse.org From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 13:04:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20266; Fri, 7 Jul 95 13:04:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06857; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:54:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:54:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06838; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:53:58 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10492; Fri, 7 Jul 95 12:54:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 95 12:54:56 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507071654.AA10492@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: lang@asylum.sf.ca.us, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: AC Adaptor I have had ZERO trouble with the AC adaptor with the rigid connector, I think that Lang's expe3rience is atypical. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 13:14:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20771; Fri, 7 Jul 95 13:14:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07419; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 13:00:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 13:00:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07396; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 13:00:47 -0400 From: Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA10405; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:00:40 -0500 Message-Id: <9507071700.AA10405@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 13:02:02 EST Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu To: Lang Zerner From: John H. Kim Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Subject: Re: AC Adaptor ** Reply to note from Lang Zerner 07/07/95 12:01pm -0400 > There is a small problem in the design of the AC adaptor. The end that >plugs into the ThinkPad is a rigid connector about 1.5in (3.75cm) long that >sticks straight back from the ThinkPad. When I was working with IBM to > > It's easy to forget that the plug is back there. The first tilt back did > the most damage to the connector, and I managed to do it once or twice > more. Although the connector is still electrically sound, another accident > like that will probably crack the connecting plug in two, so I ordered the > old 40W "travel adapter" as a replacement. Hmm, mine broke a long time ago. The plug and big box thingy are separate, connected by a bit of (slightly flexible) rubber. Mine broke at the rubber joint between the two. The big box is free and I can slide it along the cord all I want, so it appears to serve no purpose. I just opened it and it contains two pieces of metal (not magnets) which encase the cable when closed. Does anyone know what it does? Shielding? ____________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@uni.uiuc.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 13:48:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22630; Fri, 7 Jul 95 13:48:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09161; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 13:22:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 13:22:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09138; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 13:22:38 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id KAA21240; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:22:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199507071722.KAA21240@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 95 10:24:32 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: jokim@mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 On Fri, 7 Jul 1995 13:02:02 EST you wrote: >I just opened it and it >contains two pieces of metal (not magnets) which encase the cable when >closed. Does anyone know what it does? Shielding? > Yes, what you describe is an RF choke, the purpose of which is to prevent radio frequency interference from entering your computer by way of the power cord. It is important, for the choke to work properly, for the choke to be as close to the computer end of the cable as possible. The power cord can act as an antenna, bringing radio frequency energy into the computer circuitry, wreaking all kinds of havoc. Most of the time you don't need an RF choke, but those of us who have strong sources of radio frequency energy nearby appreciate the fact that IBM takes this precaution. Many or most computer manufacturers ignore this precaution, alas. ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail |Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, | |in whole or in part. Copyright, 1995. License to distribute this post is | |available to Microsoft for $1,000. Posting without permission constitutes | |an agreement to these terms. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 14:29:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25486; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:29:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12598; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:13:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:13:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12581; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:13:21 -0400 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HSLB1U7VKG005XCT@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 07 Jul 1995 14:13:13 -0400 (EDT) From: billy@mix.com In-Reply-To: <9507071700.AA10405@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <805140793.626123.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: John H. Kim writes - > I just opened it and it > contains two pieces of metal (not magnets) which encase the cable when > closed. Does anyone know what it does? Shielding? Probably some kind of ferrite material that forms a choke to suppress RF radiation from the power cable. Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 14:57:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28129; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:57:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13810; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:35:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:35:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13794; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:35:18 -0400 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id AA14079; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:35:57 -0400 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9507071435.ZM14077@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:35:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: "" (Jul 7, 1:02pm) References: <9507071700.AA10405@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Metal Box in AC adapter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 As far as I can tell, the box is some sort of shield to allow an FCC class B designation... (required on High Resolution Monitors, For example) Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 15:13:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29102; Fri, 7 Jul 95 15:13:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15607; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:51:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:51:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15591; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:51:14 -0400 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8660) id <01HSL65WMKDM00FT41@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Fri, 07 Jul 1995 11:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 07 Jul 1995 11:54:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dennis L. Bark" Subject: "Terminal" software To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HSL65WMU1800FT41@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Thanks to you who gave me some helpful suggestions on using "Terminal" on my 755CE. As of this morning ProComPlus is doing the job very nicely. D.L.Bark From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 16:14:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06186; Fri, 7 Jul 95 16:14:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21745; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 15:56:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 15:56:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dub-img-2.compuserve.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21731; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 15:56:03 -0400 Received: by dub-img-2.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id PAA28656; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 15:08:19 -0400 Date: 07 Jul 95 15:06:02 EDT From: Joachim Kuhn <100042.2161@compuserve.com> To: Subject: unsuscribe Message-Id: <950707190601_100042.2161_EHK176-1@CompuServe.COM> please take me from the mail-list - E-Mail from Joachim Kuhn, 100042,2161 - D-87439 Kempten, Germany - 07-Jul-1995, 12:56:47 MESZ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 17:22:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11055; Fri, 7 Jul 95 17:22:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28641; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:04:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:04:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from deneb.dfn.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28631; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:04:21 -0400 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA24599; Fri, 7 Jul 95 23:02:31 +0200 Received: from bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26484; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 23:03:47 +0100 Received: by bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sUKXJ-000DH8C; Fri, 7 Jul 95 23:02 MET DST Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 23:02:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: Hanno Wagner To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: LinuX + IC-Ether Card in TP? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Friends, at the moment, I have LinuX 1.2.10 on my Thinkpad 730 (not yet 12 MB, but 4 MB RAM with Swap) and try to use the PCMCIA-Port with my PCMCIA- Card (IC-Card), in DOS it detects an D-Link 650 Card. So with DOS i can use the novell-net and also tcpip. But in Linux, the PCMCIA-Support (installed and started in rc.pcmcia), cant' detect the Card, the cardmgr tells me kernel: LinuX PCMCIA Card Services 2.6.0 kernel: Intel PCIC Probe: kernel: Intel i82365sl rev 3 at 0x3e0, 2 sockets kernel: irq mask (scanned) = 0x8eb8, status change on irq 15 cardmgr[32]: starting cardmgr[32]: cardmgr.c 1.54 1995/04/20 20:51:27 (David Hinds) cardmgr[32]: watching 2 sockets cardmgr[32]: could not adjust resource: IO ports 0x378-0x37f: I/O error cardmgr[32]: could not adjust resource: memory 0xd0000-0xdffff: Device or resource busy cardmgr[32]: initializing socket 1 cardmgr[32]: socket 1: D-Link DE-650 Ethernet Card in case of _not_ starting the card before under DOS, there is coming: cardmgr[32]: initializing socket 1 cardmgr[32]: unsupported card in socket 1 cardmgr[32]: no version info in the /etc/pcmcia/config is already standing: include port 0x2e0-0x3ff include memory 0xd0000-0xdffff # # exclude irq4, port 0x3f8-0x3ff include irq7, port 0x378-0x37f include memory 0xd0000-0xdffff ...I don't know why it doesn't work. There is also no device called de650_cs or so in /dev, i just can't use the card in my Thinkpad 730. Any Hints, Suggestions or so? I would be happy to get some help. Thx in advance, Hanno -- Hanno Wagner, Student der Fachhochschule Hannover, Fachbereich IK email: wagner@www.bid.fh-hannover.de URL: http://www.bid.fh-hannover.de:80/~wagner/ IRC: Rince (usually on #germany or #muenster or #braunschweig) "This is also a story about sex and drugs and Music With Rocks In. Well... ...one out of three ain't bad." From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 17:44:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11921; Fri, 7 Jul 95 17:44:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01046; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:30:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:30:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01029; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:30:24 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA09948 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:30:21 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA29597; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:30:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:30:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Recent TP drivers Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Some recent Thinkpad drivers on the IBM BBS and presumably at the ftp site: [B] Evtpe120.doc 3475 06-26-95 Documentation for TPE Video Disk v1.20 [C] Evtpe120.exe 381249 06-26-95 Enh. Video Disk v.1.20-TP755CD/CDV ONLY [D] 701c-sas.exe 461457 06-26-95 Restore Select-A-System Destop-TP701c [E] 755cdsas.exe 446593 06-26-95 Restore Select-A-System Destop-TP755CD [F] 755cvsas.exe 544651 06-26-95 Restore Select-A-System Destop-TP755CV [G] 755cxsas.exe 886116 06-26-95 Restore Select-A-System Destop-755CX [H] Cdtpe1xx.exe 244246 06-26-95 CD-ROM drivers - 755CD ONLY (updated) [I] Sys7013i.doc 4694 06-26-95 Documentation for System Disk TP701 v.3I [J] Sys7013i.exe 559290 06-26-95 System Disk-TP701 v.3I [K] Mwdosmod.exe 1328984 06-30-95 Start MWAVE Modem In DOS, Keep In MS-Win [L] Mwmodthr.exe 57293 06-30-95 Fix MW-Modem Thruput w/Short Block Trans [M] Os2irdrv.exe 94963 07-03-95 OS/2 IR-755CE,CD,CDV,CV,CS,CSE & 701C,CS [N] 755rotat.exe 742491 07-03-95 OS/2 180 Rotation Driver-TP755CV,CDV [O] 755wdock.exe 476955 07-03-95 OS/2 Dock Supt-TP755CE,CSE,CD,CV,CDV,CX [P] 755wdvid.exe 1477983 07-03-95 OS/2 Graphics Supt-TP755 W/ WD90C24 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 17:55:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12246; Fri, 7 Jul 95 17:55:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01836; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:40:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:40:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01822; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:40:20 -0400 Received: from ppp2.basenet.net (ppp2.basenet.net [204.248.92.2]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA18797 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 15:37:32 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 15:37:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199507072037.PAA18797@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: AC Adaptor >There is a small problem in the design of the AC adaptor. The end that plugs >into the ThinkPad is a rigid connector about 1.5in (3.75cm) long that sticks >straight back from the ThinkPad. When I was working with IBM to diagnose a >problem (turned out to be a bad DSP card), they asked for my machine's serial >number each time I called. That means I had to tilt the machine up to see the >tag on the bottom. One of the guys on my devlopment team was teaching a class on these last month and had one of the students break their end also. Looks like someone overlooked the characteristics of mobile computing, much like they did with the Port Replicator (no support when TPad legs are used). All in all though, I really like the new AC Adaptor. It takes up a lot less space in my case, and anything that takes up less space has got to be good thing. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 7 19:47:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18721; Fri, 7 Jul 95 19:47:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08588; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 19:33:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 19:33:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08578; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 19:33:19 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id TAA20176; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 19:37:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 19:37:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Robert Dewar Cc: lang@asylum.sf.ca.us, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: AC Adaptor In-Reply-To: <9507071654.AA10492@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > I have had ZERO trouble with the AC adaptor with the rigid connector, > I think that Lang's expe3rience is atypical. The thought that this could be a problem occured to me when I first saw it. I am not thrilled with it, but it seems likely to not be a problem. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 8 17:36:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06395; Sat, 8 Jul 95 17:36:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05377; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 17:26:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 17:26:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05365; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 17:26:00 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA04842; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:25:51 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id QAA31003; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:25:51 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:25:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: gjacobs@qualcomm.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199507081817.LAA20430@happy.qualcomm.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Jul 1995 gjacobs@qualcomm.com wrote: [nothing] Very lucid prose. :-) -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 8 17:39:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06513; Sat, 8 Jul 95 17:39:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01762; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:28:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:28:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from happy.qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01747; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:28:43 -0400 From: Received: from smtphost-q3.qualcomm.com (annex.qualcomm.com [129.46.54.5]) by happy.qualcomm.com (8.6.12/QC-BSD-2.5) with SMTP id LAA20430; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 11:17:12 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 11:17:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199507081817.LAA20430@happy.qualcomm.com> Apparently-To: To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 8 17:42:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06549; Sat, 8 Jul 95 17:42:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01776; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:28:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:28:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from happy.qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01752; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:28:46 -0400 From: Received: from smtphost-q3.qualcomm.com (annex.qualcomm.com [129.46.54.5]) by happy.qualcomm.com (8.6.12/QC-BSD-2.5) with SMTP id LAA20270; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 11:14:43 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 11:14:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199507081814.LAA20270@happy.qualcomm.com> Apparently-To: To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 8 17:45:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07013; Sat, 8 Jul 95 17:45:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01788; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:28:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:28:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from happy.qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01764; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:28:48 -0400 From: Received: from smtphost-q3.qualcomm.com (annex.qualcomm.com [129.46.54.5]) by happy.qualcomm.com (8.6.12/QC-BSD-2.5) with SMTP id LAA19967; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 11:10:42 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 11:10:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199507081810.LAA19967@happy.qualcomm.com> Apparently-To: To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 8 19:08:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11089; Sat, 8 Jul 95 19:08:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09911; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 18:55:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 18:55:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09885; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 18:55:10 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id SAA20958; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 18:59:32 -0400 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 18:59:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Mike Schaeffer Cc: gjacobs@qualcomm.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Jul 1995, Mike Schaeffer wrote: > On Sat, 8 Jul 1995 gjacobs@qualcomm.com wrote: > [nothing] > > Very lucid prose. :-) Even more amusing when one realizes that Qualcomm is the company that owns and updates Eudora, what they tout as one of the best email programs on the planet. Perhaps an empty message body warning should be on the features list for the next rev.... ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 10 11:01:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15729; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:01:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05198; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:42:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:42:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tequesta.gate.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05184; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:42:07 -0400 Received: from hopi.gate.net (jbush@hopi.gate.net [199.227.0.13]) by tequesta.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA22411 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:06:16 -0400 Received: (from jbush@localhost) by hopi.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA154163; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:01:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:01:08 -0400 (EDT) From: James Bush To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: faxworks In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII when loading faxworks there is a message to the effect: 'undefined dynalink' would someone please be kind enuf to inform me as to what and where dynalink is located and how to fix the problem. faxworks cannot be accessed at all. thank you jamie From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 10 16:01:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07004; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:01:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01373; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:43:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:43:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from happy.qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01360; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:43:37 -0400 Received: from smtphost-q3.qualcomm.com (annex.qualcomm.com [129.46.54.5]) by happy.qualcomm.com (8.6.12/QC-BSD-2.5) with SMTP id MAA12239 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 12:42:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199507101942.MAA12239@happy.qualcomm.com> X-Sender: gjacobs@wizard X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1b6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 12:43:11 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "Gary E. Jacobs" Subject: Is there a limit on the dialup phone number? I'm trying to enter use the MCI worldphone and this means I need to enter a long number in the form of 1771502727,,,nnnnnnnnnnnnnn,,,nnnnnnnnnn (MCI Israel (credit card number) (modem number) Number) The phone never goes offhook. I've got an IBM Thinkpad 755CE using the built-in 144 MWave DSP version 1.1. If I use 001nnnnnnnnnn it works fine (but costs more). (modem number) The worldphone number works fine if I don't use the modem. Gary Jacobs >from Israel From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 10 17:10:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11540; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:10:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07433; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:55:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:55:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from longs.lance.colostate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07362; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:54:59 -0400 Received: from longs.lance.colostate.edu (ouzel.lance.colostate.edu [129.82.188.50]) by longs.lance.colostate.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5a (LANCE 1.01)) with ESMTP id OAA29438; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:54:52 -0600 Message-Id: <199507102054.OAA29438@longs.lance.colostate.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: sf311553@lance.colostate.edu Subject: Viking Platinum 16MB cards Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:54:51 -0600 From: Stu Feld Recently, I posted about a problem I was having with a Viking Platinum 16MB card (I have a 755C/75MHz/540MB HD). When I plugged in the card, the machine recognized the full 20MB, but then gave an error code and hung. I then tried another card, with the same result. Various attempts to correct the problem, including upgrading the bios and booting with and without parity checking enabled, failed to help. I suspected that there was a problem with the memory socket, and since the machine was still under warranty, I had the dealer send the machine to IBM to be checked. Two days later, the machine came back from IBM with a clean bill of health (they did not have a Viking card, but tried IBM memory with no problems). After much wrangling with Viking over the phone, an un-named medium level manager-type person admitted that they had been receiving a number of complaints about the cards recently, and he thought that a bad lot of cards may have been shipped. To Vikings credit, however, they did manage to ship me a working card within the week (arrived today). I thought the folks on this list would like to know that there are apparently some bad Viking Platinum cards on the shelves. Viking does know about the problem, but I do not know if they plan on doing a recall of the bad cards. Regards, Stu Feld From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 10 17:52:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13937; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:52:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11304; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:40:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:40:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11288; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:40:52 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA26167 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:40:49 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15850; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:41:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:41:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: "Gary E. Jacobs" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a limit on the dialup phone number? In-Reply-To: <199507101942.MAA12239@happy.qualcomm.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Many modems allow you store a number in the modem's memory and then when dialing it you just do ATDTS (S for stored). I don't know if the mwave has this (it should) but you could store the first 12 digits in the memory and then dial ATDTS,,,nnnnnnnnnnn,nnnnnn as below. Josh Hosseinof hosseino@yu1.yu.edu On Mon, 10 Jul 1995, Gary E. Jacobs wrote: > I'm trying to enter use the MCI worldphone and this means I need to enter a > long number in the form of > > 1771502727,,,nnnnnnnnnnnnnn,,,nnnnnnnnnn > (MCI Israel (credit card number) (modem number) > Number) > > The phone never goes offhook. I've got an IBM Thinkpad 755CE using the > built-in 144 MWave DSP version 1.1. > > If I use 001nnnnnnnnnn it works fine (but costs more). > (modem number) > > The worldphone number works fine if I don't use the modem. > > Gary Jacobs > from Israel > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 11 02:04:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15733; Tue, 11 Jul 95 02:04:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11929; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 01:53:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 01:53:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11919; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 01:53:14 -0400 Received: from violin-16.synapse.net (violin-16.synapse.net [199.84.52.222]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7.Beta.9/8.7.Beta.9) with SMTP id BAA17702 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 01:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 01:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199507110553.BAA17702@sentinel.synapse.net> X-Sender: phong@pop.synapse.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: phong@phsmc.synapse.net (Patrick Hong) Subject: Viking Platinum 16MB cards >Subject: Viking Platinum 16MB cards >Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:54:51 -0600 >From: Stu Feld > > >Recently, I posted about a problem I was having with a Viking Platinum 16MB >card (I have a 755C/75MHz/540MB HD). When I plugged in the card, the machine >recognized the full 20MB, but then gave an error code and hung. I then tried >another card, with the same result. Various attempts to correct the problem, >including upgrading the bios and booting with and without parity checking >enabled, failed to help. I suspected that there was a problem with the memory >socket, and since the machine was still under warranty, I had the dealer send >the machine to IBM to be checked. Two days later, the machine came back from >IBM with a clean bill of health (they did not have a Viking card, but tried IBM >memory with no problems). After much wrangling with Viking over the phone, an >un-named medium level manager-type person admitted that they had been receiving >a number of complaints about the cards recently, and he thought that a bad lot >of cards may have been shipped. To Vikings credit, however, they did manage to >ship me a working card within the week (arrived today). > >I thought the folks on this list would like to know that there are apparently >some bad Viking Platinum cards on the shelves. Viking does know about the >problem, but I do not know if they plan on doing a recall of the bad cards. > >Regards, >Stu Feld > Just thought I would contribute my 2 cents worth. I have a 755CX and just upgrade the memory with a 16MB RAM card from Kensington. I've had no problem and the IC DRAM card was cheap (I think), CDN $ 975. I've had no problems so far but it seems to be working like a charm. patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 11 09:44:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10731; Tue, 11 Jul 95 09:44:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14686; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 09:29:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 09:29:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14673; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 09:28:56 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA03221; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:28:21 MDT Date: Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:28:21 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9507111328.AA03221@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: kinda funny TP-related newsgroup post Pardon the waste of bandwidth, but I think the list could use a little humor just lately. This from comp.sys.laptops: --------------------------------------------------------------------- John Venditti (jvenditt@jupiter.scs.Ryerson.CA) wrote: : Can anyone explain what MWave is and if so, can I use it for : my IBM ThinkPad ?? MWAV is Microsoft Windows Anti-Virus. It comes with DOS 6.0 or 6.2 (even though it is a Windows program) and it should run fine on your Thinkpad. There are alot better anti-virus programs out there though (a little off topic for this group). -- "A Big Mac's a Big Mac, but they call it Le Big Mac." Vincent Vega - Pulp Fiction --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 11 12:16:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18937; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:16:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26862; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:56:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:56:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26836; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:56:18 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA10532; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 08:56:14 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA15583; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 08:56:08 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507111556.IAA15583@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: kinda funny TP-related newsgroup post To: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 08:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9507111328.AA03221@amazon.den.mmc.com> from "Karl Yeanoplos" at Jul 11, 95 07:28:21 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Pardon the waste of bandwidth, but I think the list could use a little > humor just lately. This from comp.sys.laptops: > : Can anyone explain what MWave is and if so, can I use it for > : my IBM ThinkPad ?? > > MWAV is Microsoft Windows Anti-Virus. It comes with DOS 6.0 or 6.2 (even > though it is a Windows program) and it should run fine on your Thinkpad. > There are alot better anti-virus programs out there though (a little off > topic for this group). Talk about the Blind leading the Blind! ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Making South-Central | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| L.A. a better place by | -Counselor, USC Business Expansion Network | helping small businesses | Hey! Check out my *new* WWW Home Page!! | help themselves. | It's at: http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/ ---------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 11 16:40:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09255; Tue, 11 Jul 95 16:40:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16109; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 16:24:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 16:24:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16092; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 16:24:23 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1 [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA01801 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 13:22:33 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA17611 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 13:21:47 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 13:21:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199507112021.NAA17611@shell1.best.com> Subject: Re: kinda funny TP-related newsgroup post To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) > Pardon the waste of bandwidth, but I think the list could use a little > humor just lately. This from comp.sys.laptops: > : Can anyone explain what MWave is and if so, can I use it for > : my IBM ThinkPad ?? > > MWAV is Microsoft Windows Anti-Virus. It comes with DOS 6.0 or 6.2 (even > though it is a Windows program) and it should run fine on your Thinkpad. > There are alot better anti-virus programs out there though (a little off > topic for this group). No wonder I couldn't get MWAV to work properly on my ThinkPad...as an anti-virus program, it ain't worth dog-doo! Maybe it'll improve with Win'95?......nahhhhh....I'll just have to wait for NT3.6. ;-) _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 11 19:48:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21365; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:48:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28558; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 19:33:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 19:33:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ECE.ORST.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28548; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 19:33:38 -0400 Received: from watson.ECE.ORST.EDU by ECE.ORST.EDU with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA21932; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 16:33:27 -0700 Received: by watson.ECE.ORST.EDU (1.37.109.16/HP-Client) id AA195525586; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 16:33:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 16:33:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Lee To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Win95 Woes... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, I currently own three Thinkpads - a 755CX, a 701C, and a 701CS (I've been bitten by the bug!). All have 16MB/810MB. The 701CS has vanilla DOS/Windows loaded, the 701C has OS/2 Warp Connect, and the 755CX was recently loaded with Win95, build 490. My question concerns the 755CX, but first let me say that Win95 seems to be the most "compatible" operating system I've yet loaded on a ThinkPad. All the MWave stuff works flawlessly, as does the PCMCIA support, the Proxim RangeLAN2 RF NIC, and the Panasonic KXL-D720 CD-ROM drive. Also the 800x600 SVGA driver works fine. The only problem I have is that the operating system 'stalls' for anywhere from 5 to 30 seconds periodically, especially if I'm typing into a VDM at the DOS prompt. It happens at other times, but much less frequently if I don't have an open DOS session. I've tried many things, including booting in 'safe' mode, removing all PCMCIA devices, cleaning out config.sys/autoexec.bat/system.ini to the bare minimum, trying disk-related changes suggested in the WRK (VirtualHDIRQ, SystemROMBreakpoint, etc.). This 'stalling' is always present. The only clue I have is in the control panel - all devices are listed as functioning correctly *except* for the standard IDE/ESDI hard disk controller. Win95 reports it as 'not functioning correctly', which seems odd since this driver is critical to the operation of the machine. I have verified that the resources used match those in the 755CX user manual. Anyone have a clue? This stalling is annoying enough to make the OS unusable, which is a shame since it works so well otherwise. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated! --Jim Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 11 20:41:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25219; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:41:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01622; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 20:30:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 20:29:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from orpheus.amdahl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01609; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 20:29:52 -0400 Received: from cessna.oes.amdahl.com by orpheus.amdahl.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVpgT-0001Y5C; Tue, 11 Jul 95 17:29 PDT Received: by cessna.oes.amdahl.com (5.0/SMI-4.1/DNS) id AA06459; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 17:30:15 +0800 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 17:30:15 +0800 From: lenj@oes.amdahl.com (Len Jacobson) Message-Id: <9507120030.AA06459@cessna.oes.amdahl.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, jlee@ece.orst.edu Subject: Re: Win95 Woes... X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII I had a similar experience when I loaded PC-DOS 7.0. (I understand that you are using Windows 95, but maybe this might help you...) I found that every 10 minutes, like clockwork, the system stalled for some 40 seconds and I saw lots of disk activity. After many phone calls (until I found someone "in the know"), I discovered it had to do with the disk compression utility that was different in PC-DOS 7.0 (from earlier PC-DOS versions). It was rescanning the disk to see that everything was OK. I changed the controlling parameter from 10 minutes (the default) to one hour and have been much happier ever since. Hope this will be of help... Len Jacobson > From @amdahl.uts.amdahl.com:owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 11 17:10 PDT 1995 > X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 19:33:40 EDT > Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 16:33:06 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jim Lee > To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: Win95 Woes... > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Hi all, > > I currently own three Thinkpads - a 755CX, a 701C, and a 701CS > (I've been bitten by the bug!). All have 16MB/810MB. The 701CS has > vanilla DOS/Windows loaded, the 701C has OS/2 Warp Connect, and the 755CX > was recently loaded with Win95, build 490. My question concerns the > 755CX, but first let me say that Win95 seems to be the most "compatible" > operating system I've yet loaded on a ThinkPad. All the MWave stuff > works flawlessly, as does the PCMCIA support, the Proxim RangeLAN2 RF > NIC, and the Panasonic KXL-D720 CD-ROM drive. Also the 800x600 SVGA > driver works fine. The only problem I have is that the operating system > 'stalls' for anywhere from 5 to 30 seconds periodically, especially if > I'm typing into a VDM at the DOS prompt. It happens at other times, but > much less frequently if I don't have an open DOS session. I've tried > many things, including booting in 'safe' mode, removing all PCMCIA > devices, cleaning out config.sys/autoexec.bat/system.ini to the bare > minimum, trying disk-related changes suggested in the WRK (VirtualHDIRQ, > SystemROMBreakpoint, etc.). This 'stalling' is always present. The only > clue I have is in the control panel - all devices are listed as > functioning correctly *except* for the standard IDE/ESDI hard disk > controller. Win95 reports it as 'not functioning correctly', which seems > odd since this driver is critical to the operation of the machine. I > have verified that the resources used match those in the 755CX user > manual. Anyone have a clue? This stalling is annoying enough to make > the OS unusable, which is a shame since it works so well otherwise. Any > pointers would be greatly appreciated! > > --Jim Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 11 20:49:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25470; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:49:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02040; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 20:38:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 20:38:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02030; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 20:38:02 -0400 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA262139544; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 20:39:04 -0400 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:39:02 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Win95 Woes... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Item Subject: Message text > Hi all, > The only problem I have is that the operating system > 'stalls' for anywhere from 5 to 30 seconds periodically, especially if > I'm typing into a VDM at the DOS prompt. It happens at other times, but > much less frequently if I don't have an open DOS session. I've tried > many things, including booting in 'safe' mode, removing all PCMCIA > devices, cleaning out config.sys/autoexec.bat/system.ini to the bare > minimum, trying disk-related changes suggested in the WRK (VirtualHDIRQ, > SystemROMBreakpoint, etc.). This 'stalling' is always present. The only > clue I have is in the control panel - all devices are listed as > functioning correctly *except* for the standard IDE/ESDI hard disk > controller. Win95 reports it as 'not functioning correctly', which seems > odd since this driver is critical to the operation of the machine. I > have verified that the resources used match those in the 755CX user > manual. Anyone have a clue? This stalling is annoying enough to make > the OS unusable, which is a shame since it works so well otherwise. Any > pointers would be greatly appreciated! Jim: I have a TP 750 (20MB RAM) and have noticed something like the "stalling" you mention. I'm using build 490 also. In my case, though, it's only occasional (usually when lots of disk access is going on in the background) and never lasts more than a second or two. I've never used a 755CX, but my 750 has an EasySetup screen that can be accessed by holding the F1 key at a cold boot. It has a series of self-tests that can be run there. You might want to try these. It's possible that there really is something wrong with the system board; Win95 shouldn't have any problems interfacing with something as basic as the drive controller. Also, you might want to check Control Panel -- System -- Performance and see if the 32-bit disk- and file-system drivers are engaged. These make a huge performance difference. I know that most of you on this list have moved beyond the TP 750 and are using newer machines, but hey, some of us are college students and don't have the money for things like 2.5" 1.2GB hard drives and wireless networks in our houses. :-) (wish I did). But I'm happy to report that somewhere between the first preview build (347) and the new preview build (490) Microsoft fixed the power management drivers to work with the 750 family. Suspend/Resume work properly now, as does Hibernation. Also, there's no problem with using a power-on password with Win95. The power-on password caused problems with OS/2 Warp. For those who are interested, the new build seems marginally faster. I did a little experimentation with OLE 2; it seems a *lot* faster. I've not had the opportunity to really push the OS, but nothing has crashed after a day of pretty heavy use. Unfortunately enough, there still aren't native Win95 drivers for the 750/755 (not MWave) sound chip. The Win 3.1 drivers still work, though. Sincerely, Wesley Dunaway From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 11 22:39:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00371; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:39:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09233; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 22:26:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 22:25:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ECE.ORST.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09222; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 22:25:57 -0400 Received: from watson.ECE.ORST.EDU by ECE.ORST.EDU with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA23633; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 19:25:55 -0700 Received: by watson.ECE.ORST.EDU (1.37.109.16/HP-Client) id AA202935935; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 19:25:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 19:25:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Lee To: Len Jacobson Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Win95 Woes... In-Reply-To: <9507120030.AA06459@cessna.oes.amdahl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hmmm... I *am* using DriveSpace (or whatever Microsoft calls their disk compression these days) - I'll have to check and see if there are any tweakable parameters. BTW, when my system stalls, there is usually a single disk access at the start, then nothing until the system starts responding again... Anyway, thanks for the suggestion! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 12 04:35:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20851; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:35:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01289; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 04:21:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 04:21:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esb735.tuwien.ac.at by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01277; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 04:21:28 -0400 Received: from esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at by esb735.tuwien.ac.at with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA26230; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 10:21:22 +0200 Received: by esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.13B/1.0um) id AA0423; Wed, 12 Jul 95 10:18:21 -0700 Message-Id: <9507121718.AA0423@esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 95 10:05:29 +0000 From: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Subject: PCMCIA Problems, WARP X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <406_124_1_805557929> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am using an IBM TP 755C together with WARP, TCPIP 2.0 (latest CSD 64xxx) and IBM Ethernet Adapter (PCMCIA). Installation diskettes for the IBM PCMCIA Ethernet Adapter: V. 2.03 Unfortunatly, the install-program of the ethernet adapter won't recognize the the WARP PCMCIA card and socket services (tell's me no socket/card services installed, can't proceed), so I can't get my ethernet card working. Another PCMCIA-problem occured, when I tried to install an ADAPTEC 1460 (TRANTOR T460) PCMCIA-2-SCSI adapter and an external HDD. Well, I checked the termination power, and - it is being supplied by external device (+5V). The Plug and Play for PCMCIA-tool (OS/2 WARP) shows me: No. Card Type Card Status 1 Memory Inserted and when I double click on this entry I get the Card Information: Trantor Systems, Ltd, T460 SCSI Host Adapterversion 0.22 Write Protect YES Battery GOOD Region Masked ROM 32K Bytes Sounds a bit strange to me???? I installed the T160SCSI.ADD driver and the SCSI-driver for WARP. config.sys: BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD IFS=C:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /Q DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS BASEDEV=T160SCSI.ADD /Q /ADDR=360 But I cannot access to the external harddisk (no icon, no drive D -- nothing) (Worked fine under WinDOZE) Please help me.................. alex Alexander Wirth, Inst. f. Schaltgeraete und Hochspannungstechnik TU Wien, Gusshausstr. 25-29/374, 1040 Wien Tel. ++43-1-58801-3759 FAX ++43-1-504-11-03 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 12 08:41:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03044; Wed, 12 Jul 95 08:41:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18811; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:23:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:23:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18800; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:23:38 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA13126; Wed, 12 Jul 95 08:24:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 95 08:24:34 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507121224.AA13126@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Warp/CD ROM/TP755? question Anyone had any success using any of the portable CD players on TP755C? with Warp? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 12 11:33:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14024; Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:33:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06933; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:19:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:19:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from postoffice.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06923; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:18:59 -0400 Received: from [128.174.105.246] (giftwriter.news.uiuc.edu [128.174.105.246]) by postoffice.cso.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA122758 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 10:18:48 -0500 X-Sender: asachs@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 10:23:23 +0000 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: asachs@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alice Sachs) Subject: Modems for use in England I am thinking of buying an external modem for my TP750 and would appreciate any advice. Also, I will be taking my TP to England this summer and need to know if a modem purchased in the US will work on the British Telecom phone lines. Do I need to be aware of any special configurations when making my purchase to be sure that the modem will work in both countries? Thanks for your help Alice Sachs From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 12 14:01:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00472; Wed, 12 Jul 95 14:01:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18094; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 13:35:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 13:35:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18066; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 13:35:07 -0400 Received: by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu id AA28638 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU); Wed, 12 Jul 1995 13:34:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 13:34:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Paulo Magalhaes X-Sender: pm119@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: SCSI PCMCIA card Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I own a TP750Cs, with 8Mb RAM and 340Mb HD, with a PCMCIA Megahertz X-Jack modem, currently running OS/2 2.1. I would like to acquire a CD-ROM and thought that a SCSI PCMCIA card would be the best way of hooking this up, especially since that would also enable me to connect a PLI Optical Disk (which is what people here in the lab use for backups). So, the bottom line is: can someone suggest a good card? Considering that I may be upgrading my OS to Win95 or OS/2 Warp in the nearby future, drivers are something to think about, right? I'm sorry if these questions are a little too simple, but I'm not much of an expert when it comes to computers... Thanks for your help. Paulo From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 12 14:39:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07413; Wed, 12 Jul 95 14:39:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21652; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:21:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:21:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21641; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:21:03 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA17835 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:21:00 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13858; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:21:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:21:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: Alice Sachs Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Modems for use in England In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just be sure to bring along an American cable with you. There are plenty of American to British adapters available that work with an American cable (you can get the adapter's at any Tandy store for about 6 pounds sterling). But if you don't bring an American cable you will have to try a lot of places before you find a cable with an american plug on end and British plug on the other. Otherwise there is no difference (even touch tone works). On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, Alice Sachs wrote: > I am thinking of buying an external modem for my TP750 and would appreciate > any advice. Also, I will be taking my TP to England this summer and need > to know if a modem purchased in the US will work on the British Telecom > phone lines. > > Do I need to be aware of any special configurations when making my purchase > to be sure that the modem will work in both countries? > > Thanks for your help > > Alice Sachs > > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 12 15:02:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08980; Wed, 12 Jul 95 15:02:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24073; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:46:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:46:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24060; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:45:59 -0400 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@saturnus-4 [130.235.41.14]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id UAA07183; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 20:45:27 +0200 Message-Id: <199507121845.UAA07183@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: Paulo Magalhaes Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, f91el@efd.lth.se Subject: Re: SCSI PCMCIA card In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 12 Jul 1995 13:34:57 EDT." Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 20:45:25 +0200 From: Erik Lindahl Hi, I have an adaptec AHA-460 card that works OK under both DOS/WIN and warp. However, it has some problems with the new 810 MB HD i installed DOS/WIN on recently, but I think I'll be able to resolve that with a bios upgrade. There are two cons that might interesting even with other cards: A) The connector is huge and bulky, and somewhat in the way when i have an external keyboard/mouse. Do try to get a small connector. B) Reportedly, the AHA-460 does not, and probably never will, work with linux. This card is really made by trantor for adaptec, so if you are interested, go for the never AHA-1460 that works with linux. As for OS/2 drivers, they are available for both cards above, but you have to ftp them of adaptecs ftp-site. I know there are at least one other card that works with linux. Unfortunately, no PCMCIA-SCSI card will give you the possibility to install warp from the CD. This is IBMs fault - they just load the drivers too late in the booting process. Let's hope they resolve it in the future. Take a look at the www-page at http://peipa.essex.ac.uk, there is a link to linux on the thinkpads, where you can get a list of compatible cards. (If you are interested in linux, but otoh, you never know, and it won't hurt to get a compatible card!) Regards and good luck, Erik From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 12 15:08:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09497; Wed, 12 Jul 95 15:08:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24293; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:50:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:50:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24264; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:50:02 -0400 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12078; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:41:14 +0500 Message-Id: <9507121841.AA12078@ globalvision.net> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 95 14:46:50 EDT From: jloyless@globalvision.net (Jane Loyless) Reply-To: jloyless@globalvision.net (Jane Loyless) To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail v1.1 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Subject: Re: Warp/CD ROM/TP755? question On Wed, 12 Jul 95 14:01:36 -0400 you wrote: >can you tell me a little bit more about the Microsolutions Backpack, >how heavy is it, how much does it cost. Of course I assume you cannot >install Warp off this! > >thanks for your help I paid $354 from USA Flex about 2 months ago, but the price has come down a little since then. It's fairly large - about the size of one of the NEC's, but it's much lighter. It's not something you would want to stick in your briefcase and carry around with you if that's what you're looking for. I had used one of the NEC parallel adapters for their SCSI CD players at work and was looking for something for myself that would be easier to set up and use on both my desktop and laptop at home. I am not planning to carry it around, so size and/or weight didn't matter. As far as being able to install Warp with it, I did not since it was already installed on both machines, but I understand that Team OS/2 used one extensively at COMDEX in Atlanta to do just that and that it was very successful. I would think all you would need to do it to edit the config.sys on the Install floppy, copy the driver over to the Install floppy, and off you'd go! If you have a US fax number, I'll fax you the spec sheet. Jane From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 12 22:24:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08172; Wed, 12 Jul 95 22:24:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26416; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 22:13:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 22:13:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26404; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 22:13:03 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id WAA26752; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 22:17:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 22:17:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Robert Dewar Cc: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp/CD ROM/TP755? question In-Reply-To: <9507121224.AA13126@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > Anyone had any success using any of the portable CD players on TP755C? Does a 750 count? I use the Panasonic. See http://shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html, there's a long letter copied there about my reactions to it. > with > Warp? Nope. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 13 02:49:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18203; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:49:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10888; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 02:31:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 02:31:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10878; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 02:31:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 02:55:09 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Solaris x86 on Thinkpad 755CE Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone try installing Solaris x86 on a 755CE? Or perhaps another Thinkpad? Any opinions would be great! Thanks http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 03:03:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10319; Fri, 14 Jul 95 03:03:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25436; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 02:42:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 02:42:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25404; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 02:42:52 -0400 Received: from ppp2.basenet.net (ppp2.basenet.net [204.248.92.2]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA25297; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 00:39:27 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 00:39:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199507140539.AAA25297@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: asachs@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alice Sachs), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: Modems for use in England >I am thinking of buying an external modem for my TP750 and would appreciate >any advice. Also, I will be taking my TP to England this summer and need >to know if a modem purchased in the US will work on the British Telecom >phone lines. > >Do I need to be aware of any special configurations when making my purchase >to be sure that the modem will work in both countries? > >Thanks for your help Alice, you may also need a Great Britain Power Plug Adapter. For the telephone jack, check for Rj-11 to BT-431A. Email me directly for source. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 04:12:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13510; Fri, 14 Jul 95 04:12:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00563; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 03:58:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 03:58:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thud.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00553; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 03:58:19 -0400 From: Vaidy Sunderam Received: by thud.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id DAA05403; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 03:58:08 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 03:58:08 -0400 Message-Id: <199507140758.DAA05403@thud.cs.utk.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, alster@interport.net Subject: Re: Solaris x86 on Thinkpad 755CE >>Anyone try installing Solaris x86 on a 755CE? Or perhaps another Thinkpad? God forbid! We have enough trouble getoiing it *off* our Sparc's ... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 07:19:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23278; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:19:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18012; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:03:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:03:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17998; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:03:02 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA24838; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:04:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:04:03 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507141104.AA24838@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, alster@interport.net, sunderam@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Solaris x86 on Thinkpad 755CE Solaris lists TP's as an acceptable machine from their point of view, we are just about to try this installation, so will let you know. "God forbid! We have enough trouble getoiing it *off* our Sparc's ..." It is probably a good idea to avoid operating system advocacy flame bait on this mailing list -- there is nothing that seems to generate more heat and less light :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 07:59:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25250; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:59:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20270; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:48:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:48:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20259; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:48:28 -0400 From: Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA209762265; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:44:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:44:25 -0400 Message-Id: <950714074422_32543465@aol.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Updated Win 95 Bios for Thinkpad The new Win 95 compliant Bios for the 755 series is now available at the ftp and web. I believe the version for the 755ce,cd,cse,cx,cv is v1.30, while the version for the 755c,cs is v.1.20. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 10:01:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00383; Fri, 14 Jul 95 10:01:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01736; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:46:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:46:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01720; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:46:46 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id GAA11690; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 06:46:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199507141346.GAA11690@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 06:48:51 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: Dennis774@aol.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Updated Win 95 Bios for Thinkpad On Fri, 14 Jul 1995 07:44:25 -0400 you wrote: >The new Win 95 compliant Bios for the 755 series is now available at the ftp >and web. I believe the version for the 755ce,cd,cse,cx,cv is v1.30, while >the version for the 755c,cs is v.1.20. > Could we get the web and ftp site addresses? Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 11:04:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08256; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:04:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07353; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:50:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:50:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mindvox.phantom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07343; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:50:27 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by mindvox.phantom.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id KAA03507; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:43:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:43:14 -0400 (EDT) From: aoster Subject: Re: Updated Win 95 Bios for Thinkpad Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <950714074422_32543465@aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU On Fri, 14 Jul 1995 Dennis774@aol.com wrote: > The new Win 95 compliant Bios for the 755 series is now available at the ftp > and web. I believe the version for the 755ce,cd,cse,cx,cv is v1.30, while > the version for the 755c,cs is v.1.20. What is this upgrade supposed to fix again? http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 11:04:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08255; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:04:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07117; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:48:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:48:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mindvox.phantom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07107; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:48:47 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by mindvox.phantom.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id KAA03186; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:41:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:41:29 -0400 (EDT) From: aoster Subject: Re: Solaris x86 on Thinkpad 755CE Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9507141104.AA24838@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > Solaris lists TP's as an acceptable machine from their point of view, we > are just about to try this installation, so will let you know. ok ...great > "God forbid! We have enough trouble getoiing it *off* our Sparc's ..." > > It is probably a good idea to avoid operating system advocacy flame bait > on this mailing list -- there is nothing that seems to generate more heat > and less light :-) yea, totally agree http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 13:23:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14374; Fri, 14 Jul 95 13:23:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16683; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:20:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:20:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16633; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:20:30 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA09415 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:20:22 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA38352; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:20:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:20:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: WIN95 & Thinkpads (VERY Long!) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Version 1.30 of the system diskette is out for the 755CE and UP models Version 1.20 of the system diskette is out for the 355/360/750/755 models Windows 95 Beta Program on IBM ThinkPad Systems =============================================== Version 1.00 July 10th, 1995 IBM UNCLASSIFIED Important Notice: ----------------- This document contains the information for customers who want to run Windows 95 Beta program on IBM ThinkPad systems. IBM is closely working with Microsoft to ensure the compatibility of Windows 95 on selected ThinkPad systems when it is commercially available. However, IBM is not responsible for support of beta release of software from any third parties and cannot guarantee compatibility or support for Windows 95 shipped prior to its commercial release. The information in this document doesn't imply that IBM is providing official support for Windows 95 beta program. The information in this document is provided "as is" without warranty of any kind. The entire risk arising out of the use of information in this document remains with you. (Note) Microsoft and Windows are trademarks of Microsoft Corporation. IBM Personal Computer Company ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Table of Contents ================= 1. Before installing Windows 95 1.1. How to get the updated software 1.2. System program update 1.3. Removing incompatible preinstalled software 1.4. Before installing Windows 95 2. ThinkPad 755C/Cs and systems 2.1. Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad 2.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program 3. ThinkPad 360/355 Family and 370C systems 3.1. Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad 3.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program 4. ThinkPad 340CSE systems 4.1. Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad 4.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program 5. ThinkPad 755CE/CSE/CX/CD/CDV systems 5.1. Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad 5.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program 6. ThinkPad 701C system 6.1. Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad 6.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program 7. ThinkPad 530Cs systems 7.1. Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad 7.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program 8. System independent information 8.1. Suspend command on Start menu 8.2. System compatibility test in Windows 95 DDK beta 8.3. PCMCIA adapter card compatibility 8.4. PCMCIA support software setup 8.5. ThinkPad Docking control utility 8.6. ThinkPad Dock II docking station 9. Other ThinkPad systems 9.1. ThinkPad 750 systems 9.2. ThinkPad 340 system 9.3. ThinkPad 230Cs system 9.4. Other ThinkPad systems ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Before installing Windows 95 ------------------------------- 1.1. How to get the updated software ------------------------------------ IBM PC Company is providing the updated software through several channels as follows. It is suggested to get the latest software from those channels so that you can set up Windows 95 on your ThinkPad systems with the information described in this document. Use a terminal emulation software and modem to connect the IBM PC Company BBS in the US. The phone number is; 919-517-0001. Join CompuServe ThinkPad Forum (GO THINKPAD) and download the necessary software from the library. The IBM PC Company FTP server address for mobile product software fixes and patches is; ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles The home page for IBM PC Company file library index is; http://www.pc.ibm.com/files.html Select "IBM Portables, Notebooks, Laptops Files" to find the necessary software. If you cannot get the updated software from either one, please contact your IBM representative, or contact IBM HelpCenter (1-800- 772-2227) for more information. 1.2. System program update (Flash BIOS update) ---------------------------------------------- Before you install Windows 95, you are strongly recommended to get the following version of ThinkPad System Program Service Diskette and to update your flash BIOS. Otherwise, Windows 95 may not run as explained in this document. You need to follow the instructions provided by the system program service diskette very carefully to update your flash BIOS program. Your system could be damaged by incorrect operations during this system program update. --------------------------------------------------------- The preview program version of Windows 95 beta and earlier versions have a problem with IBM ThinkPad System Program Service Diskettes. You MUST turn on the write-protect switch of your ThinkPad System Service Diskette right after you create the diskette from its source file. If you don't, Windows 95 could damage the diskette when you write some data on it, or use "DIR" command against it. In this case, the diskette no longer works as a system service diskette and you need to recreate a diskette from the source diskette image. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ThinkPad 750 Family - ThinkPad 750/360/755 Family System Program Service Diskette version 1.20 or later. ThinkPad 755C/Cs - ThinkPad 750/360/755 Family System Program and 360/355 Family Service Diskette version 1.20 or later. ThinkPad 755CE/CD - ThinkPad 755 Family System Program Service 755CX/CV Diskette version 1.30 or later. 755CDV ThinkPad 701C - ThinkPad 701C System Disk version 3H or later. ThinkPad 340 CSE - ThinkPad 340 Family System Program Service and 370C Diskette version 1.10 or later. Note 1: IBM is testing the following ThinkPad systems with Windows 95 and APM (Advanced Power Management) BIOS 1.1 and PnP (Plug and Play) BIOS 1.0a are supported on those systems. - ThinkPad 755C/Cs - ThinkPad 360/355 Family - ThinkPad 755CE/CD/CX/CV/CDV - ThinkPad 340CSE - ThinkPad 370C - ThinkPad 701C - ThinkPad 530CS 2. IBM is testing the following ThinkPad systems with Windows 95 but only APM BIOS 1.0 is supported. No PnP BIOS support is available on those systems. - ThinkPad 750 Family - ThinkPad 340 (Monochrome display system) - ThinkPad 230Cs 3: IBM is not testing any other ThinkPad systems with Windows 95. Windows 95 may run on those legacy ThinkPad systems but IBM has/will not test Windows 95 on those systems. 1.3. Removing incompatible preinstalled software ------------------------------------------------ If you plan to install, or have already installed Windows 95 beta program over the following ThinkPad systems with factory preinstalled software, you may encounter "Windows 95 Explorer Fault". - ThinkPad 755C/Cs - ThinkPad 360/355 Family - ThinkPad 755CE/CD - ThinkPad 340CSE - ThinkPad 370C - ThinkPad 701C If you have this problem, or to avoid this problem, please take the following steps. 1. Edit your WIN.INI file located under C:\WINDOWS subdirectory. For example, type "E C:\WINDOWS\WIN.INI" and press ENTER from DOS command prompt. 2. In [windows] section, find the "load=" statement. Remove STRTSCR.EXE from the "load=" statement as follows. Your original WIN.INI --------------------- [windows] : load=C:\SCREENS\STRTSCR.EXE C:\THINKPAD\FUELWIN.EXE : Remove STRTSCR.EXE ------------------ [windows] : load=C:\THINKPAD\FUELWIN.EXE : 3. After you remove STRTSCR.EXE, you will no longer see the ThinkPad Welcome screen. If you have already removed this screen, nothing will be changed by removing STRTSCR.EXE. Note: If your system is either ThinkPad 755CX or 755CV, the new STRTSCR.EXE on your system can be used on Windows 95 beta program. 1.4. Before installing Windows 95 --------------------------------- Before you install Windows 95 beta program, it is recommended to review the information which is particular to your ThinkPad model. This would minimize your effort to set up Windows 95 beta program on your ThinkPad system. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. ThinkPad 755C/Cs systems --------------------------- 2.1. Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad --------------------------------------------- 2.1.0. Before you proceed ------------------------- Again, you are strongly recommended to get the latest system program service diskette and update your system BIOS. Otherwise, the following information is not applicable on your system. 2.1.1. During Windows 95 installation ------------------------------------- You may encounter "Unknown Hardware Found" message when you install Windows 95 beta code. In this case, select "Do not install a driver (Windows will not prompt you again)". By doing this, you will see "Unknown Device" under "Other devices" in Windows 95 Device Manager. This "Unknown Device" is ThinkPad Audio device. If you want to see this device name in Device Manager, refer to "Unknown Hardware" problem in Section 2.2. 2.1.2. Video device drivers --------------------------- The video device driver for ThinkPad 755C/Cs systems is included in Windows 95 and it is automatically installed by Windows 95 Setup program. You don't need ThinkPad Windows video device driver any longer but still need to install ThinkPad VESA video driver. The following procedure enables Windows 95 video device driver functions. --------------------------------------------------------- The following procedure is NOT applicable on ThinkPad 755CE/CD/CX/CV systems. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Check your CONFIG.SYS file and look for the following statement. : DEVICE=C:\IBMVESA\VESA.EXE : (Note: The directory "C:\IBMVESA" could be different if you have installed ThinkPad DOS video device driver into a different subdirectory.) If you find the statement, your system is already set up for Windows 95 video device driver for ThinkPad. If not, go to the next step. 2. Have ThinkPad Video feature diskette. (The latest version as of 6/1/95 is 1.33) and insert it into the diskette drive. 3. Go to the DOS command prompt. Then, type A:VINSTALL and press Enter. The supported display list appears. 4. Using the Arrow keys, highlight the display type which you use with your ThinkPad, and press Enter. 5. Follow the instructions on the screen to save your display selection; then press F3 to exit the menu. 6. Remove the diskette from the diskette drive; then restart the system. The ThinkPad is now ready to work with Windows 95 beta video device driver. 1. After installing or set up Windows 95 on your ThinkPad; click "My Computer". 2. Click "Control Panel"; Click "Display"; Click on "Setting" tab. 3. Click "Change Display Type..." button. 4. Make sure that Adapter Type is "Western Digital". 5. Close "Change Display Type" windows; verify that "256 Color" can be selected in "Color palette". 2.1.3. ThinkPad Features Program -------------------------------- The ThinkPad Features Program for Windows works on Windows 95. If you install Windows 95 over a DOS/Windows 3.x system on which you have already installed ThinkPad Features Program, it is migrated into "Start Menu" automatically. Click "Start"; click "Programs"; click "ThinkPad"; then click "ThinkPad Features" to start the program. If you install Windows 95 on a blank hard disk or you haven't installed ThinkPad Features Program, follow the instructions of "ThinkPad Features Program - Installing for Windows" in the ThinkPad User's Guide. 2.1.4. PCMCIA Device driver --------------------------- Windows 95 comes with the integrated PCMCIA support. To use the Windows 95 PCMCIA support functions, refer to the Windows 95 documentation or on-line help. If you want to use ThinkPad PC Card Director (or EasyPlaying), you still can use ThinkPad DOS PCMCIA device drivers. To install ThinkPad PCMCIA device drivers, follow the instructions of "Installing the PCMCIA drivers - Installing for DOS" in the ThinkPad User's Guide. However, it is recommended to use the Windows 95 version of PCMCIA support until ThinkPad Windows 95 PCMCIA software becomes available. --------------------------------------------------------- The Windows 95 installation program doesn't enable its own 32bit PCMCIA support automatically. If you already have a ThinkPad system with ThinkPad DOS/Windows PCMCIA software and install Windows 95 beta on the system, the Windows 95 installation program keeps the ThinkPad PCMCIA support software and you can keep using it. However, the Windows 95 plug and play functions of its own PCMCIA support cannot be used with ThinkPad PCMCIA support software. For more detail about PCMCIA support software setup, refer to "Section 8.4. PCMCIA support software setup. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2.1.5. Audio Support Software ----------------------------- The ThinkPad Audio Support Software for Windows works on Windows 95. If you install Windows 95 over a DOS/Windows 3.x system on which you have already installed ThinkPad Audio Support Software, it is migrated into "Start Menu" automatically. Click "Start"; click "Programs"; then click "Audio" to select the ThinkPad audio program which you use. If you install Windows 95 on a blank hard disk or you haven't installed ThinkPad Features Program, follow the instructions of "ThinkPad Features Program - Installing for Windows" in the ThinkPad User's Guide. --------------------------------------------------------- ThinkPad Audio Support Software setup makes several program icons to use ThinkPad audio functions. The "Sound Recorder" icon, which works fine under Windows 3.1, is not set up correctly under Windows 95 because the program name of Windows sound record utility is changed. To setup "Sound Recorder" icon; 1. Verify that you have successfully installed or migrated ThinkPad Audio Support Software onto Windows. - Click "Start"; click "Programs"; then click "Audio" - "Audio Control", "Media Player", "Sound Recorder" and "Read Me" programs should be visible. If not, you need to reinstall ThinkPad Audio Support Software. 2. Click "Start"; click "Settings"; then click "Taskbar..." 3. Click on "Start Menu Programs" tab. 4. Click "Advanced..." button. 5. Click "+" mark of "Programs" in the hierarchy window located left- hand side; then click "Audio". 6. Highlight "Sound Recorder" in the content window located right- hand side; click "File" menu; then click "Properties". 7. Click on "Shortcut" tab; and change "Target" program name from "SOUNDREC.EXE" to "C:\WINDOWS\SNDREC32.EXE". (C:\WINDOWS could be different depending on the subdirectory in which you installed Windows 95.) 8. Click "OK"; now you can use "Sound Recorder" under Windows 95. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program ---------------------------------------------------------------- o ThinkPad Audio driver limitations When ThinkPad Audio driver is loaded, the suspend function has the following limitations. - When you play audio and try to suspend during the audio playback, the system doesn't suspend. - When you try to suspend the system and fail to do so, you need to wait for five to fifteen seconds. Then try to suspend the system again. If you still cannot suspend the system, you may need to wait for another fifteen seconds or so to suspend the system successfully. o Power management limitations with PC cards When you inserted a PC card into PCMCIA slots of ThinkPad, the suspend function currently has the following limitations. - When the system is power by AC, ThinkPad doesn't enter full suspend and enters standby mode. - When the system is power by battery, ThinkPad always enter suspend mode regardless of the PC card status. You may lose the connection if your PC card is a network card or modem. - Windows 95 PCMCIA support software does not support the ring indicator of PCMCIA modem cards. Therefore, you cannot use ring indications by PCMCIA modems even if it's support by cards. o No Ring indicator supported by Windows 95 PCMCIA support Windows 95 PCMCIA support software does not support the ring indicator of PCMCIA modem cards. Therefore, you cannot use ring indications by PCMCIA modems even if it's support by cards. o Token-Ring Credit Card Adapter problem When you use IBM Token-Ring 16/4 Credit Card Adapter II (Part Number 0933931) with Windows 95 PCMCIA support software, the card may not be enabled correctly. Most 755C/Cs products don't have this problem. IBM Token-Ring 16/4 Credit Card Adapter and IBM Token-Ring Auto 16/4 Credit Adapter III (Part Number 04H6922) don't have this problem. o Horizontal stripe appears with mouse pointer on external CRT When you attach a high resolution external CRT monitor and switch between a MS-DOS full screen session and Windows 95 desktop, you may observe a horizontal stripe with the mouse pointer. If this happens, take the following steps. 1. Click "My Computer" 2. Click "Control Panel" 3. Click "System" 4. Click on "Performance" tab 5. Click "Graphics..." button 6. Move the slider of "Hardware acceleration" left one notch 7. You will be prompted to restart the system Upon next system boot, the horizontal stripe should disappear. o Mwave DSP processor appears in Device Manager You may find "Mwave DSP processor" under "Other devices" in Device Manager while ThinkPad 755C/Cs don't have Mwave device. If you encounter this problem, go to "Unknown Hardware" problem below. o "Unknown Hardware" problem If you want to fix this problem, you first need to modify a Win95 information file in a hidden directory. If you are not familiar with Windows 95 beta or you are a non-experienced PC / Windows user, it's not recommended to do the following. Unexpected results may occur if you cannot follow the instructions correctly. 1. Go to MS-DOS Prompt 2. Type "CD INF" and press Enter to go to the subdirectory C:\WINDOWS\INF. (Note that C:\WINDOWS\INF is a hidden directory) 3. Back up NODRIVER.INF. Type "COPY NODRIVER.INF NODRIVER.BAK". These *.INF files are very important for Windows 95 Device Manager and you need to save the original one. 4. Edit NODRIVER.INF. Type "EDIT NODRIVER.INF" and press Enter. 5. Search [Manufacturer] section; Find the following statement. %IBMMfg%=IBM If you can find it, go to the next step. Otherwise, add this statement in [Manufacturer] section. 6. Search [IBM] section; if you don't find it, add [IBM] section somewhere between [Manufacturer] and [NODRIVER] section; find the following statement. %*IBM0040.DeviceDesc%=NODRIVER,*IBM0040 If you cannot find it, simply add this statement in [IBM] section. Otherwise, go to the next step. 7. Search [String] section; find 'IBMMfg="IBM"' statement; after this line, find the following statement. *IBM0040.DeviceDesc="xxxxxx" (xxxxxx is some device name) If you find it, change it to as follows. *IBM0040.DeviceDesc="ThinkPad Audio Device" 8. Save the modified NODRIVER.INF file. And exit MS-DOS prompt. Next, you need to remove "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP") from Device Manager. Then need to refresh the hardware structure. 9. Click "My Computer" 10. Click "Control Panel" 11. Click "System" 12. Click on "Device Manager" tab 13. Click "+" mark of "Other devices"; you see "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP processor"). 14. Click on "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP") and click "Remove" button; click "OK" to confirm. 15. Click "Refresh" button; Windows 95 will restructure the device tree in "Device Manager" and you now should see "ThinkPad Audio Device" under "Other detected devices". --------------------------------------------------------- If you encounter any unexpected results by doing the above, you might have failed to modify your NODRIVER.INF file correctly. You should recover your original NODRIVER.INF from NODRIVER.BAK which you've saved. Rename NODRIVER.BAK to NODRIVER.INF and do the above steps again, if desired. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. ThinkPad 360/355 Family and 370C systems ------------------------------------------- 3.1. Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad --------------------------------------------- 3.1.0. Before you proceed ------------------------- Again, you are strongly recommended to get the latest system program service diskette and update your system BIOS. Otherwise, the following information is not applicable on your system. 3.1.1. Video device drivers --------------------------- The video device driver for ThinkPad 360/355/370 systems is included in Windows 95 and it is automatically installed by Windows 95 Setup program. You don't need ThinkPad Windows video device driver any longer but still need to install ThinkPad VESA video driver. The following procedure enables Windows 95 video device driver functions. 1. Check your CONFIG.SYS file and look for the following statement. : DEVICE=C:\IBMVESA\VESA.EXE : (Note: The directory "C:\IBMVESA" could be different if you have installed ThinkPad DOS video device driver into a different subdirectory.) If you find the statement, your system is already set up for Windows 95 video device driver for ThinkPad. If not, go to the next step. 2. Have ThinkPad Video feature diskette. (The latest version as of 6/1/95 is 1.33) and insert it into the diskette drive. 3. Go to the DOS command prompt. Then, type A:VINSTALL and press Enter. The supported display list appears. 4. Using the Arrow keys, highlight the display type which you use with your ThinkPad, and press Enter. 5. Follow the instructions on the screen to save your display selection; then press F3 to exit the menu. 6. Remove the diskette from the diskette drive; then restart the system. The ThinkPad is now ready to work with Windows 95 beta video device driver. 1. After installing or set up Windows 95 on your ThinkPad; click "My Computer". 2. Click "Control Panel"; Click "Display"; Click on "Setting" tab. 3. Click "Change Display Type..." button. 4. Make sure that Adapter Type is "Western Digital". 5. Close "Change Display Type" windows; verify that "256 Color" can be selected in "Color palette". 3.1.2. ThinkPad Features Program -------------------------------- The ThinkPad Features Program for Windows works on Windows 95. If you install Windows 95 over a DOS/Windows 3.x system on which you have already installed ThinkPad Features Program, it is migrated into "Start Menu" automatically. Click "Start"; click "Programs"; click "ThinkPad"; then click "ThinkPad Features" to start the program. If you install Windows 95 on a blank hard disk or you haven't installed ThinkPad Features Program, follow the instructions of "ThinkPad Features Program - Installing for Windows" in the ThinkPad User's Guide. 3.1.3. PCMCIA Device driver --------------------------- Windows 95 comes with the integrated PCMCIA support. To use the Windows 95 PCMCIA support functions, refer to the Windows 95 documentation or on-line help. If you want to use ThinkPad PC Card Director (or EasyPlaying), you still can use ThinkPad DOS PCMCIA device drivers. To install ThinkPad PCMCIA device drivers, follow the instructions of "Installing the PCMCIA drivers - Installing for DOS" in the ThinkPad User's Guide. However, it is recommended to use the Windows 95 version of PCMCIA support until ThinkPad Windows 95 PCMCIA software becomes available. --------------------------------------------------------- The Windows 95 installation program doesn't enable its own 32bit PCMCIA support automatically. If you already have a ThinkPad system with ThinkPad DOS/Windows PCMCIA software and install Windows 95 beta on the system, the Windows 95 installation program keeps the ThinkPad PCMCIA support software and you can keep using it. However, the Windows 95 plug and play functions of its own PCMCIA support cannot be used with ThinkPad PCMCIA support software. For more detail about PCMCIA support software setup, refer to "Section 8.4. PCMCIA support software setup. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 3.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program ---------------------------------------------------------------- o Power management limitations with PC cards When you inserted a PC card into PCMCIA slots of ThinkPad, the suspend function currently has the following limitations. - When the system is power by AC, ThinkPad doesn't enter full suspend and enters standby mode. - When the system is power by battery, ThinkPad always enter suspend mode regardless of the PC card status. You may lose the connection if your PC card is a network card or modem. o Horizontal stripe appears with mouse pointer on external CRT When you attach a high resolution external CRT monitor and switch between a MS-DOS full screen session and Windows 95 desktop, you may observe a horizontal stripe with the mouse pointer. If this happens, take the following steps. 1. Click "My Computer" 2. Click "Control Panel" 3. Click "System" 4. Click on "Performance" tab 5. Click "Graphics..." button 6. Move the slider of "Hardware acceleration" left one notch 7. You will be prompted to restart the system Upon next system boot, the horizontal stripe should disappear. o No Ring indicator supported by Windows 95 PCMCIA support Windows 95 PCMCIA support software does not support the ring indicator of PCMCIA modem cards. Therefore, you cannot use ring indications by PCMCIA modems even if it's support by cards. o Token-Ring Credit Card Adapter problem When you use IBM Token-Ring 16/4 Credit Card Adapter II (Part Number 0933931) with Windows 95 PCMCIA support software, the card may not be enabled correctly. Most ThinkPad 355/360 products don't have this problem. ThinkPad 370C system doesn't have this problem. IBM Token-Ring 16/4 Credit Card Adapter and IBM Token-Ring Auto 16/4 Credit Adapter III (Part Number 04H6922) don't have this problem. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. ThinkPad 340CSE systems -------------------------- 4.1. Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad --------------------------------------------- 4.1.0. Before you proceed ------------------------- Again, you are strongly recommended to get the latest system program service diskette and update your system BIOS. Otherwise, the following information is not applicable on your system. 4.1.1. Video device drivers --------------------------- The video device driver for ThinkPad 340CSE systems is included in Windows 95 and it is automatically installed by Windows 95 Setup program. You don't need ThinkPad Windows video device driver any longer. 1. After installing or set up Windows 95 on your ThinkPad; click "My Computer". 2. Click "Control Panel"; Click "Display"; Click on "Setting" tab. 3. Click "Change Display Type..." button. 4. Make sure that Adapter Type is "Cirrus Logic". 4.1.2. ThinkPad Features Program -------------------------------- The ThinkPad Features Program for Windows works on Windows 95. If you install Windows 95 over a DOS/Windows 3.x system on which you have already installed ThinkPad Features Program, it is migrated into "Start Menu" automatically. Click "Start"; click "Programs"; click "ThinkPad"; then click "ThinkPad Features" to start the program. If you install Windows 95 on a blank hard disk or you haven't installed ThinkPad Features Program, follow the instructions of "ThinkPad Features Program - Installing for Windows" in the ThinkPad User's Guide. 4.1.3. PCMCIA Device driver --------------------------- Windows 95 comes with the integrated PCMCIA support. To use the Windows 95 PCMCIA support functions, refer to the Windows 95 documentation or on-line help. If you want to use ThinkPad PC Card Director (or EasyPlaying), you still can use ThinkPad DOS PCMCIA device drivers. To install ThinkPad PCMCIA device drivers, follow the instructions of "Installing the PCMCIA drivers - Installing for DOS" in the ThinkPad User's Guide. However, it is recommended to use the Windows 95 version of PCMCIA support until ThinkPad Windows 95 PCMCIA software becomes available. --------------------------------------------------------- The Windows 95 installation program doesn't enable its own 32bit PCMCIA support automatically. If you already have a ThinkPad system with ThinkPad DOS/Windows PCMCIA software and install Windows 95 beta on the system, the Windows 95 installation program keeps the ThinkPad PCMCIA support software and you can keep using it. However, the Windows 95 plug and play functions of its own PCMCIA support cannot be used with ThinkPad PCMCIA support software. For more detail about PCMCIA support software setup, refer to "Section 8.4. PCMCIA support software setup. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 4.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program ---------------------------------------------------------------- o Power management limitations with PC cards When you inserted a PC card into PCMCIA slots of ThinkPad, the suspend function currently has the following limitations. - When the system is power by AC, ThinkPad doesn't enter full suspend and enters standby mode. - When the system is power by battery, ThinkPad always enter suspend mode regardless of the PC card status. You may lose the connection if your PC card is a network card or modem. o No Ring indicator supported by Windows 95 PCMCIA support Windows 95 PCMCIA support software does not support the ring indicator of PCMCIA modem cards. Therefore, you cannot use ring indications by PCMCIA modems even if it's support by cards. o Windows 95 logo screen becomes brown Upon Windows 95 boot, its logo screen background becomes brown. This is normal and everything works fine after Windows 95 desktop screen appears. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. ThinkPad 755CE/CSE/CX/CD/CDV systems --------------------------------------- 5.1. Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad --------------------------------------------- 5.1.0. Before you proceed ------------------------- Again, you are strongly recommended to get the latest system program service diskette and update your system BIOS. Otherwise, the following information is not applicable on your system. 5.1.1. During Windows 95 installation ------------------------------------- You may encounter "Unknown Hardware Found" messages when you install Windows 95 beta code. In these cases, select "Do not install a driver (Windows will not prompt you again)". By doing this, you will see "Unknown Device"s under "Other devices" in Windows 95 Device Manager. If you want to see those device names in Device Manager, refer to "Unknown Hardware" problem in Section 5.2. 5.1.2. Video device drivers --------------------------- The video device driver for ThinkPad 755CE/CD/CX/CV systems is included in Windows 95 and it is automatically installed by Windows 95 Setup program. 1. After installing or set up Windows 95 on your ThinkPad; click "My Computer". 2. Click "Control Panel"; Click "Display"; Click on "Setting" tab. 3. Click "Change Display Type..." button. 4. Make sure that Adapter Type is "Western Digital". Windows 95 preview beta (M8) doesn't support ThinkPad 755CX 800x600 LCD. It supports only 640x480 resolution. If you have a later release of Windows 95, it may include 800x600 support. 1. After installing or set up Windows 95 on your ThinkPad; click "My Computer". 2. Click "Control Panel"; Click "Display"; Click on "Setting" tab. 3. Click "Change Display Type..." button. 4. Click "Change" button for "Adapter Type" 5. If the list shows "IBM ThinkPad 755CX(WD)", your Windows 95 beta release supports 800x600. Select it and click "OK". 6. You will be prompted to restart the system. After reboot, you can get 800x600 resolution. 5.1.3. ThinkPad Features Program -------------------------------- The ThinkPad Features Program for Windows works on Windows 95. If you install Windows 95 over a DOS/Windows 3.x system on which you have already installed ThinkPad Features Program, it is migrated into "Start Menu" automatically. Click "Start"; click "Programs"; click "ThinkPad"; then click "ThinkPad Features" to start the program. If you install Windows 95 on a blank hard disk or you haven't installed ThinkPad Features Program, follow the instructions of "ThinkPad Features Program - Installing for Windows" in the ThinkPad User's Guide. --------------------------------------------------------- The "Display" device driver setting of ThinkPad Features has a problem with Windows 95 beta. Before changing any display setting by "Display" applet, refer to "Display device driver setting problem" in section 5.2. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 5.1.4. PCMCIA Device driver --------------------------- Windows 95 comes with the integrated PCMCIA support. To use the Windows 95 PCMCIA support functions, refer to the Windows 95 documentation or on-line help. If you want to use ThinkPad PC Card Director (or EasyPlaying), you still can use ThinkPad DOS PCMCIA device drivers. To install ThinkPad PCMCIA device drivers, follow the instructions of "Installing the PCMCIA drivers - Installing for DOS" in the ThinkPad User's Guide. However, it is recommended to use the Windows 95 version of PCMCIA support until ThinkPad Windows 95 PCMCIA software becomes available. --------------------------------------------------------- The Windows 95 installation program doesn't enable its own 32bit PCMCIA support automatically. If you already have a ThinkPad system with ThinkPad DOS/Windows PCMCIA software and install Windows 95 beta on the system, the Windows 95 installation program keeps the ThinkPad PCMCIA support software and you can keep using it. However, the Windows 95 plug and play functions of its own PCMCIA support cannot be used with ThinkPad PCMCIA support software. For more detail about PCMCIA support software setup, refer to "Section 8.4. PCMCIA support software setup. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 5.1.5. CD-ROM Device driver (ThinkPad 755CD or other CD-ROM model only) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows 95 comes with a generic ATAPI CD-ROM driver and it works with the ThinkPad integrated CD-ROM. However, DOS/Windows version of IBM CD-ROM driver is not removed, if you upgrade to Windows 95 beta from DOS/Windows with IBM CD-ROM driver loaded. The CD-ROM is still visible in this case but you lose speed and some functionality which Windows 95 generic ATAPI driver provides. The generic Windows 95 CD-ROM driver is automatically installed if you don't migrated from DOS/Windows or you migrated from DOS/Windows but without IBM CD-ROM driver. To make sure that you are using Windows 95 generic ATAPI CD-ROM driver, do the following steps. 1. Go to MS-DOS command prompt 2. Edit CONFIG.SYS 3. Look for IBMTPCD.SYS in CONFIG.SYS DEVICE=C:\xxxxxx\IBMTPCD.SYS /D:TPCD001 /P:170 /R (Note xxxxxx is the name of subdirectory where you installed the CD-ROM driver) If you find it, add "REM" before this statement to comment it out; save CONFIG.SYS. If you cannot find it or it's already REM'd out, quit and go to the next step. 4. Edit AUTOEXEC.BAT 5. Look for MSCDEX.EXE in AUTOEXEC.BAT C:\xxxxxx\MSCDEX.EXE /D:TPCD001 /M:15 (Note xxxxxx is the name of subdirectory where you installed the CD-ROM driver) If you find it, add "REM" before this statement to comment it out; save AUTOEXEC.BAT. If you cannot find it or it's already REM'd out, quit and go to the next step. 6. Exit DOS command prompt; Reboot the system. 5.1.6. Mwave support software ----------------------------- You need to have Mwave support software version 1.10 or later to get Mwave functions on Windows 95 beta. If you are not sure what version of Mwave software you have, run "C:\MWW\MANAGER\MWLEVELS.EXE" (the location of MWLEVELS might be different, if you didn't install Mwave support software into the default directory) from Windows. This opens up a text window and you can find your Mwave software version at the bottom of windows as follows. OEM=Mwave ThinkPad Release 1.0 If you already have Mwave version 1.10 software in your system with Windows and you plan to install Windows 95 over Windows system, Mwave software is automatically migrated to the Windows 95 environment. In case you already have Mwave version 1.10 software in your system with Windows but you plan to install Windows 95 into a different directory or drive, Mwave software is NOT migrated to the Windows 95 system. This is by design of Windows 95. You need to install Mwave support software again from Windows 95. If you plan to install Windows 95 beta on a blank harddisk, Windows 95 doesn't need CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT, thus those two files are missing on the root directory of the boot drive. Mwave software requires both files on the root directory of the boot drive in order to be installed correctly. After installing Windows 95 on your system, make CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT on your system's boot drive. CONFIG.SYS can be a blank file. AUTOEXEC.BAT must have a path statement, for example; REM This AUTOEXEC.BAT is required for Mwave support software PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND (Note: "C:\" should be the driver letter of paritition on which you have installed Windows 95 beta.) Now you can install Mwave support software version 1.10 onto Windows 95 beta. You must have a patch for Mwave software to run under Windows 95 correctly. This patch code can be obtained from IBM PC Company BBS or from CompuServe ThinkPad Forum library section. Look for "Mwave fix for > 16M and Macromedia Director". The installation instructions are available in README file in this patch package. --------------------------------------------------------- This patch code MUST be installed with Mwave support software version 1.10. And if you don't apply this patch, your Mwave support software doesn't run under Windows 95 correctly. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 5.1.7. Infrared Device Driver ----------------------------- You can use ThinkPad Infrared device driver on Windows 95. If you have ThinkPad Infrared Device driver working on Windows and plan to migrate to Windows 95 beta, the Infrared device driver will be migrated to Windows 95 environment automatically. If you don't have ThinkPad Infrared device driver on your Windows system or you are going to install Windows 95 beta on a blank hard disk, you can install ThinkPad Infrared device driver after you install Windows 95 beta on your system. Follow the instructions in "Installing the IR device driver - Installing for Windows" in the ThinkPad User's Guide. --------------------------------------------------------- If you encounter a problem when you disable the ThinkPad infrared port and reassign the IRQ for the disabled infrared port to one of the IRQs used by other device whose virtual device driver requires exclusive use of its IRQ, you need to get a patch code for the infrared virtual device driver. Go to "Problem with disabling infrared port" in section 5.2. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 5.1.8. Enhanced Video Device Driver ----------------------------------- You can use ThinkPad Enhanced video device driver on Windows 95. If you have the Enhanced video device driver working on Windows and plan to migrate to Windows 95 beta, the Enhanced video device driver will be migrated to Windows 95 environment automatically. If you don't have ThinkPad Enhanced video device driver on your Windows system or you are going to install Windows 95 beta on a blank hard disk, you can install ThinkPad Enhanced video device driver after you install Windows 95 beta on your system. Follow the instructions in "Installing the Enhanced video device driver - Installing for Windows" in the ThinkPad User's Guide. --------------------------------------------------------- To enable the enhanced video functions, you need to change the device setting by "Display" applet of ThinkPad Features. The "Display" device driver setting of ThinkPad Features has a problem with Windows 95 beta. Before changing any display setting by "Display" applet, refer to "Display device driver setting problem" in section 5.2. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 5.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program ---------------------------------------------------------------- o Power management limitations with PC cards When you inserted a PC card into PCMCIA slots of ThinkPad, the suspend function currently has the following limitations. - When the system is power by AC, ThinkPad doesn't enter full suspend and enters standby mode. - When the system is power by battery, ThinkPad always enter suspend mode regardless of the PC card status. You may lose the connection if your PC card is a network card or modem. o No Ring indicator supported by Windows 95 PCMCIA support Windows 95 PCMCIA support software does not support the ring indicator of PCMCIA modem cards. Therefore, you cannot use ring indications by PCMCIA modems even if it's support by cards. o Horizontal stripe appears with mouse pointer on external CRT When you attach a high resolution external CRT monitor and switch between a MS-DOS full screen session and Windows 95 desktop, you may observe a horizontal stripe with the mouse pointer. If this happens, take the following steps. 1. Click "My Computer" 2. Click "Control Panel" 3. Click "System" 4. Click on "Performance" tab 5. Click "Graphics..." button 6. Move the slider of "Hardware acceleration" left one notch 7. You will be prompted to restart the system Upon next system boot, the horizontal stripe should disappear. o Timer suspend function with ThinkPad 755CD ThinkPad system supports the timer suspend function. This is to get the system suspended if there is no system activity for a certain period. Windows 95 generic CD-ROM driver accesses the CD-ROM devices every three seconds to detect CD-ROM insertion automatically. This prevents ThinkPad 755CD from suspending even if there is no actual system activity for long time. If you want to enable the timer suspend function; 1. Click "My Computer" 2. Click "Control Panel" 3. Click "System" 4. Click on "Device Manager" tab 5. Click "+" mark on "CD-ROM" 6. Double click "TEAC CD-40E" 7. Click on "Setting" tab 8. Remove a check mark on "Auto insert notification" o Mwave doesn't function when the ThinkPad has more than 16MB of memory. This is a known Mwave driver problem and you can get the fix for this. The patch code can be obtained from IBM PC Company BBS or from CompuServe ThinkPad Forum library section. Look for "Mwave fix for > 16M and Macromedia Director". The installation instructions are available in README file in this patch package. o Problem with disabling Infrared port The problem typically occurs when you have reassigned the IRQ for the disabled infrared port to one of the IRQs used by Mwave or any other device whose virtual device driver requires exclusive use of its IRQ. If you have such a virtual device driver, it will fail to load during startup. This is not a problem if the IR port's IRQ is used by a device driver that can share the IRQ, including the standard COM port driver. To fix this problem, you need to get "ThinkPad Infrared driver patch to fix an IRQ problem" from IBM PC Company BBS or CompuServe ThinkPad Forum Library section. The installation instructions are available in the package. o Suspend problem with Multimedia applications It is not recommended to suspend the ThinkPad when you are playing video clips, audio files, or MIDI files by Windows 95 Media Player or other Multimedia applications. Your system may encounter some problem upon resume of the system. Also it is not recommended to suspend the ThinkPad 755CD system when you are using Digital Video Producer, which is one of the preinstalled applications. o Video capture problem You may not be able to capture the video data for more than 15 seconds under Windows 95 beta with Digital Video Producer, which is one of the preinstalled applications. o Display device driver setting problem When you want to change the display setting in Windows 3.x systems, you use the "Display" applet of ThinkPad Features. Under Windows 95, you can change the display setting by "Display" property sheet of Windows 95. The current "Display" applet of ThinkPad Features requires ThinkPad video driver for Windows 3.x and has some problem with Windows 95. You should not use "Display" applet unless you need to change the device driver setting for IBM ThinkPad Enhanced Video functions. When you need to change the Enhanced video driver settings, take the following steps. 1. Make necessary changes in "Display" applet of ThinkPad Features. 2. Select "OK"; you will be prompted to select "Restart Windows" or "Continue"; select "Continue"; then select "OK" to exit "Display" applet. 3. Click "Shut down" on "Start Menu" of Windows 95; select "Restart the computer?"; then click "Yes". 4. When "Start Windows 95..." message appears on the top left corner of the screen, press F8; "Microsoft Windows 95 Startup Menu" appears; select "3.Safe Mode". 5. When Windows 95 comes up, click "My Computer"; click "Control Panel"; click "Control Panel"; click "Display". 6. Click on "Setting" tab; and make necessary changes of Display settings; click "OK"; you will be prompted to restart the computer; click "Yes". 7. The system will reboot and the changes of display setting are taken effect. --------------------------------------------------------- When you enable "Enhance Video functions" of ThinkPad 755CD, you had better not use any high resolution modes with external CRT monitors. If you do it, the resolution on ThinkPad internal LCD screen could be set to 800x600 or 1024x768 while it supports only up to 640x480. As the result, you would be able to see only 640x480 display area for the top left corner of 800x600, or 1024x768 area. --------------------------------------------------------------------- o 180 degree display rotation is not supported The 180 degree display rotation function of ThinkPad 755 CV Windows display driver is not supported by Windows 95 Western Digital video device driver. You shouldn't select 180 degree rotation in the "Display" applet of ThinkPad Features program. o "Unknown Hardware" problem If you want to fix this problem, you first need to modify a Win95 information file in a hidden directory. If you are not familiar with Windows 95 beta or you are a non-experienced PC / Windows user, it's not recommended to do the following. Unexpected results may occur if you cannot follow the instructions correctly. In addition, your Windows 95 beta code may have already included the correct device information of ThinkPad. It depends on which revision of Windows 95 beta you are using. 1. Go to MS-DOS Prompt 2. Type "CD INF" and press Enter to go to the subdirectory C:\WINDOWS\INF. (Note that C:\WINDOWS\INF is a hidden directory) 3. Back up NODRIVER.INF. Type "COPY NODRIVER.INF NODRIVER.BAK". These *.INF files are very important for Windows 95 Device Manager and you need to save the original one. 4. Edit NODRIVER.INF. Type "EDIT NODRIVER.INF" and press Enter. 5. Search [Manufacturer] section; Find the following statement. %IBMMfg%=IBM If you can find it, go to the next step. Otherwise, add this statement in [Manufacturer] section. 6. Search [IBM] section; if you don't find it, add [IBM] section somewhere between [Manufacturer] and [NODRIVER] section; find the following statement(s). %*IBMxxxx.DeviceDesc%=NODRIVER,*IBMxxxx (Note: xxxx of *IBMxxxx is a four digit number). Modify (or add) the statement(s) in this section as follows. (Note: IBM0050 and IBM36F1 is for ThinkPad 755 CD-ROM models only.) %*IBM0050.DeviceDesc%=NODRIVER,*IBM0050 %*IBM36E0.DeviceDesc%=NODRIVER,*IBM36E0 %*IBM36F1.DeviceDesc%=NODRIVER,*IBM36F1 %*IBM36F2.DeviceDesc%=NODRIVER,*IBM36F2 7. Search [String] section; find 'IBMMfg="IBM"' statement; after this line, find the following statement. *IBMxxxx.DeviceDesc="yyyyyy" (xxxx is a four digit number yyyyyy is a device name ) Modify (or add) the statement(s) in this section as follows. (Note: IBM0050 and IBM36F1 is for ThinkPad 755 CD-ROM models only.) *IBM0050.DeviceDesc="ThinkPad Enhanced Video Device" *IBM00E0.DeviceDesc="ThinkPad Mwave DSP" *IBM00F1.DeviceDesc="Mwave MPU-401 MIDI Port" *IBM00F2.DeviceDesc="Mwave Sound Blaster Support Device" 8. Save the modified NODRIVER.INF file. And exit MS-DOS prompt. Next, you need to remove "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP") from Device Manager. Then need to refresh the hardware structure. 9. Click "My Computer" 10. Click "Control Panel" 11. Click "System" 12. Click on "Device Manager" tab 13. Click "+" mark of "Other devices"; you see "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP processor"). 14. Click on "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP") and click "Remove" button; click "OK" to confirm. 15. Click "Refresh" button; Windows 95 will restructure the device tree in "Device Manager" and you now should see correct device names under "Other detected devices". --------------------------------------------------------- If you encounter any unexpected results by doing the above, you might have failed to modify your NODRIVER.INF file correctly. You should recover your original NODRIVER.INF from NODRIVER.BAK which you've saved. Rename NODRIVER.BAK to NODRIVER.INF and do the above steps again, if desired. --------------------------------------------------------------------- o FaxWorks Voice problems FaxWorks Voice, which is one of the preinstalled applications, has the following problems under Windows 95 beta. - Telephone Icon is not displayed properly The FaxWorks telephone icon is not displayed properly as it is in Windows 3.x. When you start one of FaxWorks Voice functions such as Call Center, the telephone icon is displayed over the program name of title bar. Once you minimize Call Center, the telephone icon disappears from the title bar but some garbage might remain on the Windows 95 desktop screen. This cosmetic problem doesn't affect the actual functions of FaxWorks Voice. - When you close the windows of FaxWorks Voice fax viewing, the system may encounter a problem and you might have to reboot the system. - If you have any problem related to sending/receiving fax by FaxWorks Voice, check the following. 1. Click "My Computer"; click "Printers"; double click "FaxWorks Printer Driver (FX-WORKS)". 2. Click on "Details" tab; verify that MWV is selected in "Print to the following port". Windows 95 beta might show "MWV (Unknown local port)" but it is normal. o Tranxit infrared file transfer application problem Tranxit, which is one of the preinstalled applications, has the following problem under Windows 95 beta. - The high speed mode of IBM ThinkPad Infrared connection cannot be used when you connect two ThinkPad systems and Windows 95 95 beta is installed on both of them. The fixed and variable speed modes can be used. To change the transfer mode; 1. Select "Connection" on Tranxit menu bar; select "Setup..." 2. Verify that "Infrared" is selected in "Connection Type"; click "Change Connection settings..." 3. Select "Fixed" or "Variable" in "Infrared device mode". ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. ThinkPad 701C system ----------------------- 6.1. Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad --------------------------------------------- 6.1.0. Before you proceed ------------------------- Again, you are strongly recommended to get the latest system program service diskette and update your system BIOS. Otherwise, the following information is not applicable on your system. The Windows 95 device drivers for ThinkPad 701C are included in Windows 95. When you install Windows 95 preview program beta (M8) on ThinkPad 701C, the device drivers are installed automatically except for infrared and ThinkPad 701C integrated modem. If you have later build of Windows 95 beta, it might recognize the ThinkPad infrared device and integrated modem. 6.1.1. Infrared device driver ----------------------------- If the ThinkPad Infrared port is not listed in Device Manager, follow the next steps. 1. Open Device Manager. 2. Highlight the Communication Port which Infrared port is assigned. 3. Click "Remove"; click "OK" to close "Device Manager". 4. Click "Shut down" on "Start Menu" of Windows 95; select "Restart the computer?"; then click "Yes". 5. During the next Windows 95 boot, you will be prompted to install a device driver for the communication port which is assigned for the infrared port in "New Hardware Found" window. Click "Select from a list of alternate drivers; click "OK"; click "Show all devices"; select "Hewlett Packard" from Manufacturers; select "HP Infra-Red Communication Port"; then click "OK". 6.1.2. PCMCIA Device driver --------------------------- Windows 95 comes with the integrated PCMCIA support. To use the Windows 95 PCMCIA support functions, refer to the Windows 95 documentation or on-line help. If you want to use ThinkPad PC Card Director (or EasyPlaying), you still can use ThinkPad DOS PCMCIA device drivers. To install ThinkPad PCMCIA device drivers, follow the instructions of "Installing the PCMCIA drivers - Installing for DOS" in the ThinkPad User's Guide. However, it is recommended to use the Windows 95 version of PCMCIA support until ThinkPad Windows 95 PCMCIA software becomes available. --------------------------------------------------------- The Windows 95 installation program doesn't enable its own 32bit PCMCIA support automatically. If you already have a ThinkPad system with ThinkPad DOS/Windows PCMCIA software and install Windows 95 beta on the system, the Windows 95 installation program keeps the ThinkPad PCMCIA support software and you can keep using it. However, the Windows 95 plug and play functions of its own PCMCIA support cannot be used with ThinkPad PCMCIA support software. For more detail about PCMCIA support software setup, refer to "Section 8.4. PCMCIA support software setup. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 6.1.3. Modem settings --------------------- If the ThinkPad integrated modem is not listed in Device Manager, follow the next steps. 1. Open "Control Panel" 2. Click "Add New Hardware" 3. Click "Next"; Select "No" for "Do you want to Windows to search for your new hardware?"; then click "Next" 4. Highlight "Modem" in "Hardware types" list box; click "Next" 5. Click "Next" to let Windows 95 detect a modem. If Windows 95 beta cannot detect your modem, repeat the step 1 to 4, then go to the next step. Otherwise your modem setting is automatically done by Windows 95. 6. If Windows 95 didn't detect your modem, check "Don't detect my modem" in "Install New Modem" dialog box; then click "Next" 7. Select "Standard 14400 bps Modem"; the click "Next" 8. Assign COM port for the modem according to your hardware configuration 6.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program ---------------------------------------------------------------- o Docking problems with Windows 95 beta If you have a Windows 95 beta later than the preview program version, you might encounter the following docking problems. Microsoft and IBM are working on those problems. You will not see those problems with Windows 95 preview version. - If you undock the Thinkpad 701C and redock it, Windows 95 may locks up. - If you dock the ThinkPad 701C and undock it, the external floppy drive of 701C may become disabled. - If you dock the ThinkPad 701C, the auto suspend timer doesn't work due to a Adapter SCSI driver problem in Windows 95 beta. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. ThinkPad 530CS system (Available only in Japan) -------------------------------------------------- 7.1. Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad --------------------------------------------- The installation and setup procedure of Windows 95 on ThinkPad 530Cs is very similar to ThinkPad 755CE. This section often refers to the information in "Section 5. ThinkPad 755CE/CD/CX/CV systems". 7.1.1. During Windows 95 installation ------------------------------------- You may encounter "Unknown Hardware Found" messages when you install Windows 95 beta code. In these cases, select "Do not install a driver (Windows will not prompt you again)". By doing this, you will see "Unknown Device"s under "Other devices" in Windows 95 Device Manager. If you want to see those device names in Device Manager, refer to "Unknown Hardware" problem in Section 5.2. --------------------------------------------------------- During the Windows 95 installation, you are asked if you want to make a startup diskette for emergency use. It is strongly recommended to attach the external floppy disk drive to ThinkPad 530CS when you install Windows 95 beta. Without the floppy drive, you might experience an inactive period for about two minutes during Windows 95 installation. This is not a system hang. However, you need to attach the external floppy drive to avoid this symptom. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 7.1.2. Video device drivers --------------------------- The video device driver for ThinkPad 530CS systems is included in Windows 95 and it is automatically installed by Windows 95 Setup program. You don't need ThinkPad Windows video device driver any longer. 1. After installing or set up Windows 95 on your ThinkPad; click "My Computer". 2. Click "Control Panel"; Click "Display"; Click on "Setting" tab. 3. Click "Change Display Type..." button. 4. Make sure that Adapter Type is "Cirrus Logic". 7.1.3. ThinkPad Features Program -------------------------------- For ThinkPad Features Program setup on ThinkPad 530CS with Windows 95 Beta, refer to "Section 5.1.3. ThinkPad Features Program". 7.1.4. PCMCIA Device driver --------------------------- For PCMCIA device driver setup on ThinkPad 530CS with Windows 95 Beta, refer to "Section 5.1.4. PCMCIA Device driver". 7.1.5. Mwave support software ----------------------------- For Mwave support software setup on ThinkPad 530CS with Windows 95 Beta, refer to "Section 5.1.6. Mwave support software". 7.1.6. Infrared Device Driver ----------------------------- For Infrared device driver setup on ThinkPad 530CS with Windows 95 Beta, refer to "Section 5.1.7. Infrared Device driver". 7.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program ---------------------------------------------------------------- o Power management limitations with PC cards When you inserted a PC card into PCMCIA slots of ThinkPad, the suspend function currently has the following limitations. - When the system is power by AC, ThinkPad doesn't enter full suspend and enters standby mode. - When the system is power by battery, ThinkPad always enter suspend mode regardless of the PC card status. You may lose the connection if your PC card is a network card or modem. o No Ring indicator supported by Windows 95 PCMCIA support Windows 95 PCMCIA support software does not support the ring indicator of PCMCIA modem cards. Therefore, you cannot use ring indications by PCMCIA modems even if it's support by cards. o Windows 95 logo screen becomes brown Upon Windows 95 boot, its logo screen background becomes brown. This is normal and everything works fine after Windows 95 desktop screen appears. o Mwave doesn't function when the ThinkPad has more than 16MB of memory This is a known Mwave driver problem and you can get the fix for this. The patch code can be obtained from IBM PC Company BBS or from CompuServe ThinkPad Forum library section. Look for "Mwave fix for > 16M and Macromedia Director". The installation instructions are available in README file in this patch package. o Problem with disabling Infrared port The problem typically occurs when you have reassigned the IRQ for the disabled infrared port to one of the IRQs used by Mwave or any other device whose virtual device driver requires exclusive use of its IRQ. If you have such a virtual device driver, it will fail to load during startup. This is not a problem if the IR port's IRQ is used by a device driver that can share the IRQ, including the standard COM port driver. To fix this problem, you need to get "ThinkPad Infrared driver patch to fix an IRQ problem" from IBM PC Company BBS or CompuServe ThinkPad Forum Library section. The installation instructions are available in the package. o Suspend problem with Multimedia applications It is not recommended to suspend the ThinkPad when you are playing video clips, audio files, or MIDI files by Windows 95 Media Player or other Multimedia applications. Your system may encounter some problems upon system resume. o Intermittent hibernation fail ThinkPad 530Cs may not enter the hibernation mode with Windows 95 once in a while. o Windows 95 Taskbar may disappear when CRT is attached Windows 95 Taskbar may disappear when you attach an external CRT monitor to ThinkPad 530Cs and suspend the system. o "Unknown Hardware" problem If you want to fix this problem, you first need to modify a Win95 information file in a hidden directory. If you are not familiar with Windows 95 beta or you are a non-experienced PC / Windows user, it's not recommended to do the following. Unexpected results may occur if you cannot follow the instructions correctly. In addition, your Windows 95 beta code may have already included the correct device information of ThinkPad. It depends on which revision of Windows 95 beta you are using. 1. Go to MS-DOS Prompt 2. Type "CD INF" and press Enter to go to the subdirectory C:\WINDOWS\INF. (Note that C:\WINDOWS\INF is a hidden directory) 3. Back up NODRIVER.INF. Type "COPY NODRIVER.INF NODRIVER.BAK". These *.INF files are very important for Windows 95 Device Manager and you need to save the original one. 4. Edit NODRIVER.INF. Type "EDIT NODRIVER.INF" and press Enter. 5. Search [Manufacturer] section; Find the following statement. %IBMMfg%=IBM If you can find it, go to the next step. Otherwise, add this statement in [Manufacturer] section. 6. Search [IBM] section; if you don't find it, add [IBM] section somewhere between [Manufacturer] and [NODRIVER] section; find the following statement(s). %*IBMxxxx.DeviceDesc%=NODRIVER,*IBMxxxx (Note: xxxx of *IBMxxxx is a four digit number). Modify (or add) the statement(s) in this section as follows. %*IBM36E0.DeviceDesc%=NODRIVER,*IBM36E0 %*IBM36F2.DeviceDesc%=NODRIVER,*IBM36F2 7. Search [String] section; find 'IBMMfg="IBM"' statement; after this line, find the following statement. *IBMxxxx.DeviceDesc="yyyyyy" (xxxx is a four digit number yyyyyy is a device name ) Modify (or add) the statement(s) in this section as follows. (Note: IBM0050 and IBM36F1 is for ThinkPad 755 CD-ROM models only.) *IBM00E0.DeviceDesc="ThinkPad Mwave DSP" *IBM00F2.DeviceDesc="Mwave Sound Blaster Support Device" 8. Save the modified NODRIVER.INF file. And exit MS-DOS prompt. Next, you need to remove "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP") from Device Manager. Then need to refresh the hardware structure. 9. Click "My Computer" 10. Click "Control Panel" 11. Click "System" 12. Click on "Device Manager" tab 13. Click "+" mark of "Other devices"; you see "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP processor"). 14. Click on "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP") and click "Remove" button; click "OK" to confirm. 15. Click "Refresh" button; Windows 95 will restructure the device tree in "Device Manager" and you now should see correct device names under "Other detected devices". --------------------------------------------------------- If you encounter any unexpected results by doing the above, you might have failed to modify your NODRIVER.INF file correctly. You should recover your original NODRIVER.INF from NODRIVER.BAK which you've saved. Rename NODRIVER.BAK to NODRIVER.INF and do the above steps again, if you desired. --------------------------------------------------------------------- o FaxWorks Voice problems FaxWorks Voice, which is one of the preinstalled applications, has the following problems under Windows 95 beta. - Telephone Icon is not displayed properly The FaxWorks telephone icon is not displayed properly as it is in Windows 3.x. When you start one of FaxWorks Voice functions such as Call Center, the telephone icon is displayed over the program name of title bar. Once you minimize Call Center, the telephone icon disappears from the title bar but some garbage might remain on the Windows 95 desktop screen. This cosmetic problem doesn't affect the actual functions of FaxWorks Voice. - When you close the windows of FaxWorks Voice fax viewing, the system may encounter a problem and you might have to reboot the system. - If you have any problem related to sending/receiving fax by FaxWorks Voice, check the following. 1. Click "My Computer"; click "Printers"; double click "FaxWorks Printer Driver (FX-WORKS)". 2. Click on "Details" tab; verify that MWV is selected in "Print to the following port". Windows 95 beta might show "MWV (Unknown local port)" but it is normal. o Tranxit infrared file transfer application problem Tranxit, which is one of the preinstalled applications, has the following problem under Windows 95 beta. - The high speed mode of IBM ThinkPad Infrared connection cannot be used when you connect two ThinkPad systems and Windows 95 95 beta is installed on both of them. The fixed and variable speed modes can be used. To change the transfer mode; 1. Select "Connection" on Tranxit menu bar; select "Setup..." 2. Verify that "Infrared" is selected in "Connection Type"; click "Change Connection settings..." 3. Select "Fixed" or "Variable" in "Infrared device mode". ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. System independent information --------------------------------- 8.1. Suspend command on Start menu ---------------------------------- The "Suspend" command should be visible in the "Start" menu above "Shut Down" command. If Windows 95 beta that you have doesn't enable this "Suspend" command, please take the following steps to correct the problem. 1. Click "My Computer" 2. Click "Control Panel" 3. Click "System" 4. Click on "Device Manager" tab 5. Select "System Devices", "Advanced Power Management", "Settings" 6. Verify that "Enable Power management support" is selected 7. Click "OK" 1. Click "My Computer" 2. Click "Control Panel" 3. Click "Power" 4. Select either "Always" or "Only when undocked" (depending on a type of ThinkPad you have) in "Show Suspend command on Start menu" box. 8.2. System Compatibility Test in Windows 95 DDK beta ----------------------------------------------------- IBM is closely working with Microsoft to get selected models of ThinkPad passed the Windows 95 System Compatibility Test (SCT). The SCT in Windows 95 M8 DDK is not a final test kit and has some problems with ThinkPad systems. The Windows 95 SCT Kit version 4.0 may have some problems with ThinkPad in the following parts of SCT. - PnP BIOS Test - WkeyLook Test (To pass this test, you need to have an external keyboard) 8.3. PCMCIA Adapter Card Compatibility -------------------------------------- o PCMCIA network adpaters in Dock II You may not be able to enable or get your PCMCIA network adapter correctly when the card is inserted into the PCMCIA slot of IBM Dock II docking station. If your card is working fine in the ThinkPad internal PCMCIA slots, you need to contact IBM PC Company HelpCenter and request a patch file. o Copying large files over IBM Token-Ring Auto 16/4 Credit Adapter You may not be able to copy large files between local and network drives when you use IBM Token-Ring Auto 16/4 Credit Card adapter for your network connection. 8.4. PCMCIA support software setup ---------------------------------- The Windows 95 installation program doesn't enable its own 32bit PCMCIA support software. If you have a ThinkPad on which the ThinkPad DOS/Windows PCMCIA support software is already installed and want to use it after you install Windows 95 beta on the ThinkPad, you don't have to perform any specific setup. The Windows 95 installation program automatically migrates the installed ThinkPad PCMCIA support software over to Windows 95 environment. If you have a ThinkPad on which the ThinkPad DOS/Windows PCMCIA support software is already installed but want to use Windows 95 PCMCIA support software after you install Windows 95 on the ThinkPad, follow the next steps. 1. Click "My Computer" 2. Click "Control Panel" 3. Click "PC Card" 4. Select "No" for the question "Are you using a PC card to install Windows?"; then click "Next" 5. Select "Yes" for the question "Would you like to review the change to your system files before Windows disable these drivers?"; then click "Next" 6. Verify that the following statements are highlighted to be removed from your CONFIG.SYS. DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDSS01.SYS DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDOSCS.SYS DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\DICRMU01.SYS DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\$ICPMDOS.SYS DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.SYS C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.INI DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\SRAMDRV2.SYS Click "Next"; Windows 95 also lets you review AUTOEXEC.BAT and SYSTEM.INI. There are no ThinkPad PCMCIA support software setup included in AUTOEXEC.BAT and SYSTEM.INI. 7. After you review all the system files, click "Finish" to complete the Windows 95 PCMCIA support setup. If you want to use the ThinkPad PCMCIA support software after you enabled the Windows 95 PCMCIA support software, you MUST disable Windows 95 PCMCIA support again. Windows 95 disables its own PCMCIA support as default. To make sure this; 1. Click "My Computer" 2. Click "Control Panel" 3. Click "System" 4. Click on "Device Manager" tab 5. Click "+" mark on "PCMCIA socket" 6. Verify that "PCIC or compatible PCMCIA controller" is disabled. (Red "X" sign should be visible on the PCIC icon, and "Device Status" is "This device is disabled" when you double click the PCIC icon.) If the PCMCIA controller is already enabled ("Device Status" is "This device is working properly".), highlight "PCIC or compatible PCMCIA controller" by clicking the PCIC icon; click "Remove" button; then follow the instructions to disable Windows 95 PCMCIA support. 8.5. ThinkPad Docking control utility ------------------------------------- If you have installed Windows 95 beta over a ThinkPad on which the Docking control utility program for Windows is already installed, don't use the utility. The Docking control utility provides several docking functions under Windows but is not necessary under Windows 95 beta any longer. All the docking capability by this utility is now provided by ThinkPad Plug-and-Play BIOS and Windows 95 Plug-and- Play support. You don't have to install or use any specific programs to enable ThinkPad docking functions under Windows 95 beta. It is recommended to remove the following statements from Windows INI files. o WIN.INI file [windows] : load=C:\THINKPAD\DOCKWIN.EXE <-remove this statement : o SYSTEM.INI file : [386Enh] : device=IBMPNP.386 <-remove this statement : 8.6. ThinkPad Dock II docking station ------------------------------------- ThinkPad Dock II docking station supports docking and undocking operations without system power off. You can dock and undock the system when it is suspended (warm docking), or you can dock and undock the system when it is powered on (hot docking). This feature is available for ThinkPad 755 and 360 systems. When you use hot / warm docking, you must disable the host adapter SCSI BIOS of Dock II docking station. You can disable the host adapter SCSI BIOS by the Dock II SCSISelect utility. Press Ctrl+A when prompted at boot time. Then select "Configure/View Host Adapter Settings" and disable the Host Adapter BIOS. You can also disable the host adapter BIOS by dip switches. For further information, refer to "Chapter 5. Using the SCSI Controller" of Dock II User's Guide. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. Other ThinkPad Systems ------------------------- 9.1. ThinkPad 750 systems ------------------------- 9.1.1 Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad ---------------------------------------------- IBM is testing the ThinkPad 750 systems with Windows 95 but only APM BIOS 1.0 is supported. No PnP BIOS support is available on those systems. 9.1.0.0. Before you proceed --------------------------- Again, you are strongly recommended to get the latest system program service diskette and update your system BIOS. Otherwise, the following information is not applicable on your system. 9.1.1.1. Video device drivers ----------------------------- To set up or install the video device driver on ThinkPad 750 systems, refer to "Section 2.1.2. Video device driver - ThinkPad 755C/Cs". 9.1.1.2. ThinkPad Features -------------------------- To set up or install the ThinkPad Features on ThinkPad 750 systems, refer to "Section 2.1.3. ThinkPad Features - ThinkPad 755C/Cs". 9.1.1.3. PCMCIA device drivers ----------------------------- To set up or install the PCMCIA device driver on ThinkPad 750 systems, refer to "Section 2.1.4. PCMCIA device driver - ThinkPad 755C/Cs". 9.1.1.4. Audio support software ------------------------------- To set up or install the audio support software on ThinkPad 750 systems, refer to "Section 2.1.5. Audio Support software - ThinkPad 755C/Cs". 9.1.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program ------------------------------------------------------------------ For limitations and problems with ThinkPad 750 systems on Windows 95 beta, refer to "Section 2.2 - ThinkPad 755C/Cs". 9.2. ThinkPad 340 system ------------------------ 9.2.1 Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad ---------------------------------------------- IBM is testing the ThinkPad 340 system with Windows 95 but only APM BIOS 1.0 is supported. No PnP BIOS support is available on those systems. 9.2.1.1. Video device drivers ----------------------------- There's no special video device driver is available for ThinkPad 340. You can use the standard VGA display driver available in Windows 95. 9.2.1.2. ThinkPad Features Program ---------------------------------- To set up or install the ThinkPad Features on ThinkPad 340 systems, refer to "Section 4.1.2. ThinkPad Features - ThinkPad 340". 9.2.1.3. PCMCIA Device driver ----------------------------- To set up or install the PCMCIA device driver on ThinkPad 340 systems, refer to "Section 4.1.3. PCMCIA device driver - ThinkPad 340". 9.2.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program ------------------------------------------------------------------ For limitations and problems with ThinkPad 340 system on Windows 95 beta, refer to "Section 4.2 - ThinkPad 340". Note that the video display related problems are not applicable. 9.3. ThinkPad 230Cs system (Available only in Japan) ---------------------------------------------------- 9.3.1. Install and setup Windows 95 on ThinkPad ----------------------------------------------- IBM is testing the ThinkPad 230Cs system with Windows 95 but only APM BIOS 1.0 is supported. No PnP BIOS support is available on those systems. 9.3.1.1. Video device drivers ----------------------------- The video device driver for ThinkPad 230Cs systems is included in Windows 95 and it is automatically installed by Windows 95 Setup program. You don't need ThinkPad Windows video device driver any longer. 1. After installing or set up Windows 95 on your ThinkPad; click "My Computer". 2. Click "Control Panel"; Click "Display"; Click on "Setting" tab. 3. Click "Change Display Type..." button. 4. Make sure that Adapter Type is "Cirrus Logic". 9.3.1.2. ThinkPad Features -------------------------- To set up or install the ThinkPad Features on ThinkPad 230Cs system, refer to "Section 2.1.3. ThinkPad Features - ThinkPad 755C/Cs". 9.3.1.3. PCMCIA device drivers ----------------------------- To set up or install the PCMCIA device driver on ThinkPad 230Cs systems, refer to "Section 2.1.4. PCMCIA device driver - ThinkPad 755C/Cs". 9.3.2. Known limitations and problems with Windows 95 beta program ------------------------------------------------------------------ o Audio support software causes system hang The audio support software of ThinkPad 230Cs currently has a problem with Windows 95 beta and is not compatible. You need to remove ThinkPad 230Cs audio device driver before you install the Windows 95 beta. 1. Edit SYSTEM.INI. 2. Find WAVEDEC.DRV in [drivers] section. 3. Comment out "DEVICE=WAVEDEC.DRV". IBM is currently working to fix this problem and the updated driver will be distributed via several network services in Japan when the new driver becomes available. 9.4. Other ThinkPad systems --------------------------- IBM is not testing any other ThinkPad systems with Windows 95. Windows 95 may run on those legacy ThinkPad systems but IBM has not tested and will not test Windows 95 on those systems. ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 15:00:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21442; Fri, 14 Jul 95 15:00:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28846; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:41:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:41:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28832; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:41:03 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.43] (mac43.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA26547; Fri, 14 Jul 95 14:40:52 EDT Message-Id: <9507141840.AA26547@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:52:11 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: WIN95 & Thinkpads (VERY Long!) If IBM had offered 1/4 of the amount of information for installing WARP on a thinkpad as they provide for installing win95 *beta* on at thinkpad, it would have saved me hours or days of tweaking. From what I've read, WARP is technically superior in every way but one (single input buffer), but if the parent company cares so little about it, it is destined to always be a fringe operating system with a loyal cult following. Win95 has won the war without a single shot...In fact, they've won with only the promise that someday they intend to get some ammunition! ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 15:27:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23332; Fri, 14 Jul 95 15:27:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02587; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:11:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:11:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02576; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:11:32 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA11443; Fri, 14 Jul 95 15:12:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 15:12:27 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507141912.AA11443@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: WIN95 & Thinkpads (VERY Long!) Do you have the manual on installing Warp on the Thinkpad. It came with my TP 755CX, but *not* with my TP 755CD (because the CD did not come preloaded with OS/2 I guess). ANyway, this manual was very helpful and very complete. Of course your "loyal cult" comment really applies to the hobbyist market. The primary OS/2 market is in strategic corporate computing, and those guys are a bit more consvative (actually in the long run it is NT, not Windows/95 that is the credible competitor to OS/2 in this environment). Anyway, I would guess from your comments that you did not have this manual. It has all sorts of useful things in it, including a complete procedure for installing OS/2 WARP from CD ROM using the internal CD ROM of the 755CD (something that in the regular documentation is declared to be impossible). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 16:15:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27013; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:15:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10912; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:01:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:01:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10883; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:01:08 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA01232; Fri, 14 Jul 95 14:00:27 MDT Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 14:00:27 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9507142000.AA01232@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: WIN95 & Thinkpads (VERY Long!) > If IBM had offered 1/4 of the amount of information for installing WARP on > a thinkpad as they provide for installing win95 *beta* on at thinkpad, it > would have saved me hours or days of tweaking. From what I've read, WARP > is technically superior in every way but one (single input buffer), but if > the parent company cares so little about it, it is destined to always be a > fringe operating system with a loyal cult following. Win95 has won the war > without a single shot...In fact, they've won with only the promise that > someday they intend to get some ammunition! I couldn't agree more. It's also interesting that IBM would release a BIOS upgrade to correct deficiencies with power management functions under Win95 when I can't even get them to acknowledge that the same problems exist under Warp. I suspect that August 24th is the beginning of the end for OS/2... -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 16:16:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27023; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:16:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10546; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:59:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:59:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10536; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:59:05 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA12745; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:59:03 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id OAA15754; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:59:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:59:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Victor Kress Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: WIN95 & Thinkpads (VERY Long!) In-Reply-To: <9507141840.AA26547@gl.ciw.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, Victor Kress wrote: > If IBM had offered 1/4 of the amount of information for installing WARP on > a thinkpad as they provide for installing win95 *beta* on at thinkpad, it > would have saved me hours or days of tweaking. From what I've read, Sickening, isn't it? > WARP > is technically superior in every way but one (single input buffer), That's pretty much true. From an architectural point of view, Windows95 is not all that different from WfWG 3.11. This fact really makes itself known after using both OS's for a while. I've run multiple tasks under OS/2 Warp on a 386/25, that I'd have had a lot more trouble with on Win95 on a 486/33. > but if > the parent company cares so little about it, it is destined to always be a > fringe operating system with a loyal cult following. Lack of corporate support has really crippled OS/2 2.x throughout it's history. Jerry Pournelle complained that at a COMDEX a few years ago MS was handing out the stuff to develop device drivers for free, wheras IBM was charging exorbidant amounts for inferior development tools for OS/2. From a bundling perspective, it's even worse. If IBM had really wanted to make a statement, they should have made it policy that if you buy an IBM x86 box, you get OS/2 period. By not doing that, they really undermined the image of the system. A friend of mine bought a Thinkpad (A 340 I think, but it's still a decent ObThinkpad :) a while ago, and guess what was installed... MS Windows. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 16:39:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28769; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:39:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13027; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:28:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:28:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13015; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:28:31 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27478; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:27:53 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0052; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:28:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:28:13 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9507142028.AA0052@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: mschaef@cs.utexas.edu Cc: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:59:01 -0500 (CDT) from Mike Schaeffer Subject: WIN95 & Thinkpads (VERY Long!) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:59:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer If IBM had really wanted to make a statement, they should have made it policy that if you buy an IBM x86 box, you get OS/2 period. By not doing that, they really undermined the image of the system. A friend of mine bought a Thinkpad (A 340 I think, but it's still a decent Thinkpad :) a while ago, and guess what was installed... MS Windows. Much as I agree with your other statements, I don't think I can go along with this one. My impression is that ThinkPads are one of the few products that are keeping IBM afloat (I don't think anyone would argue that OS/2 is). If I were an IBM exec, I wouldn't consider doing anything that would threaten the ThinkPad income -- and I suspect that refusing to offer Windows preloads would seriously impact their sales. It really is a shame, though. I use both OS/2 and Linux and like both of them very much. OS/2 has features -- its DOS/Windows emulation and its GUI -- that will be painful to do without if OS/2 stops being a viable operating system. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 18:03:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07426; Fri, 14 Jul 95 18:03:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19889; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 17:50:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 17:50:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19869; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 17:50:25 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA17320; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:50:17 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id QAA19467; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:50:16 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:50:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Chris Hanson Cc: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: WIN95 & Thinkpads (VERY Long!) In-Reply-To: <9507142028.AA0052@omerie.ai.mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, Chris Hanson wrote: > Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:59:01 -0500 (CDT) > From: Mike Schaeffer > > If IBM had really > wanted to make a statement, they should have made it policy that if you > buy an IBM x86 box, you get OS/2 period. By not doing that, they really > undermined the image of the system. A friend of mine bought a Thinkpad (A > 340 I think, but it's still a decent Thinkpad :) a while ago, and guess > what was installed... MS Windows. > > Much as I agree with your other statements, I don't think I can go > along with this one. My impression is that ThinkPads are one of the > few products that are keeping IBM afloat (I don't think anyone would > argue that OS/2 is). If I were an IBM exec, I wouldn't consider doing > anything that would threaten the ThinkPad income -- and I suspect that > refusing to offer Windows preloads would seriously impact their sales. I agree that the ThinkPads are one of IBM's biggest sellers, which would have made pre-installed OS/2 that much more significant. If they really viewed OS/2 as a threat to the sales of the machines (excellent as they are) then they should take a serious look at OS/2 and what should be done to make it competitive. After all, look at the job Microsoft has done getting Windows to work on other companies machines. If IBM can't at least put OS/2 on thier own systems then there's a problem. This discussion is probably better suited to an advocacy newsgroup or somesuch. :) -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 18:27:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08989; Fri, 14 Jul 95 18:27:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22290; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:17:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:17:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22279; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:17:02 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA21771; Fri, 14 Jul 95 18:17:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 18:17:54 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507142217.AA21771@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu, mschaef@cs.utexas.edu Subject: Re: WIN95 & Thinkpads (VERY Long!) Cc: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU I find this discussion of preloading a bit peculiar. OS/2 has been quite successful but not as a general purpose system for low end notebooks. In particular, OS/2 really is not reasonable on a 4 meg machine. IBM does preload OS/2 on their high end thinkpads (my 755CX with 8 megs came with OS/2 preloaded in a dual boot setup that was quite reasonably configured). I am a great advocate of OS/2 and use it on all my thinkpads, but if a friend was buying a low end thinkpad for simple word processing with only 4 megs of memory, I would load Windows for them ... I think the important thing for us as thinkpad users is to try to ensure that all operating systems and devices are nicely supported on the thinkpad, and with the exception still of Nextstep (am I right on this), I think we are in pretty good shape from this point of view. To me, the real problem is when I can't use something. For instnace I really like the Sony DIskman, but they have ZERO plans to develop a Warp driver, now *that's* really irritating. At least an OS/2 version of Frame is finally appearing ... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 14 18:32:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09154; Fri, 14 Jul 95 18:32:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22768; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:22:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:22:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22757; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:22:10 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA22592; Fri, 14 Jul 95 18:23:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 18:23:12 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507142223.AA22592@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: OS/2, WIN95 and THinkpads "This discussion is better suited to an advocacy newsgroup" For those who like to discuss this sort of thing, the comp.os.os2.advocacy newsgroup has hundreds of messages a day on this subject, and is indeed probably a better place for this discussion. As I said earlier, what I think we should concentrate on is availability of stuff for the Thinkpad. It is clear that there was some packaging difficulties in the 755C? series. When I bought a 755CD, it still said there were diskettes in the package, and there were no diskettes present. In fact IBM had decided to switch to the diskette factory approach, but had not updated their documentatoin. It took dozens of calls to my resweller and to IBM (several people at IBM were sure that diskettes should be inlcuded) until we finally figured it out. Similarly the failure to include the critical book on how to install Warp on the thinkpad was a real problem on the CD (it was only when I bought my CX that I found out about this, since it was included in the CX, as was a full description of the diskette factory). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 15 09:35:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27914; Sat, 15 Jul 95 09:35:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23714; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 09:11:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 09:11:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23697; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 09:11:00 -0400 Received: from huxley.anu.edu.au (ask611@huxley.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.12]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA04750; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:08:45 +1000 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by huxley.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA11835; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:10:48 +1000 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:10:48 +1000 Message-Id: <199507151310.XAA11835@huxley.anu.edu.au> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: adapters haven't gotten all the way through my accumulated mail, so maybe someone has mentioned this: its good to keep in mind that - assuming you have a 100/110-220/240 AC adapter, if you cannot find a plug adapter you can always buy a power cord in the country you are visiting. i think the end that goes into the adapter is world standard; the plug end is localized to the country. more expensive than a plug adapter usually, and more troublesome to carry, but it will work. regards, al + Alden S. Klovdahl, Ph.D e-mail: alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au Department of Sociology fax: +61 62 49 05 25 The Faculties voice - The Australian National University messages: +61 62 49 45 21 Canberra A.C.T. my office: +61 62 49 44 79 Australia 0200 home: +61 62 82 35 81 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 15 12:28:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09151; Sat, 15 Jul 95 12:28:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06614; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 12:18:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 12:18:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06593; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 12:17:42 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA03399 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for < TP750@CS.UTK.EDU>); Sun, 16 Jul 1995 00:14:11 +0800 Message-Id: <199507151614.AA03399@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Sat, 15 Jul 95 21:52:24 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Tp755cx 800x600 resolution under Warp] To Robert Dewar Can you give your impressions of CX's 800x600 resolution under Warp? Is it clear? On my 750C I feel 640x480 normal size fonts are too big but when scaled down, the letters become too fuzzy, this is especially the case with for example, the WebExplorer. Wilson Yip Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 15 13:37:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11403; Sat, 15 Jul 95 13:37:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10449; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 13:26:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 13:26:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asylum.sf.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10438; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 13:26:33 -0400 Received: (from lang@localhost) by asylum.sf.ca.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA09704; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 13:26:30 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 13:26:30 -0400 From: Lang Zerner Message-Id: <199507151726.NAA09704@asylum.sf.ca.us> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Robert Dewar's message of Fri, 14 Jul 95 18:23:12 -0400 <9507142223.AA22592@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Subject: OS/2, WIN95 and THinkpads Reply-To: Lang Zerner Some of the earlier correspondents in this thread may not be aware that IBM *does* bundle OS/2 with ThinkPads that can run it effectively. The machine is factory-configured to give you an "are you sure?" marketing screen about OS/2 if you decide to boot to Windows instead of OS/2, whereas choosing OS/2 yields no such deterrent. Robert Dewar wrote: >the failure to include the critical book on how to install Warp on >the thinkpad was a real problem on the CD Even the Windows software installation documentation for the 755CD was incorrect, instructing the reader to run installation files that don't exist, or that are in different locations than those documented. I don't know if this misdocumentation is associated with the 755CD or simply with ThinkPads shipped at that time. Robert's comments suggest that IBM is now shipping more current documentation with the 755CX. Can anyone say whether IBM is now shipping current and correct OS installation documentation with other models? Robert Dewar also wrote: >[comp.os.os2.advocacy is] a better place for this discussion. As I said >earlier, what I think we should concentrate on is availability of stuff for >the Thinkpad. Actually, Robert, what you really said earlier is "It is much better to just kill a thread you don't like," and "Why should you feel you have to make the decision for everyone else?" I'm happy to learn that you now feel otherwise. Be seeing you... --Lang From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 15 14:30:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14345; Sat, 15 Jul 95 14:30:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13384; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 14:22:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 14:22:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13372; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 14:22:29 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA19499; Sat, 15 Jul 95 14:23:24 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 95 14:23:24 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507151823.AA19499@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, wyip@nicotra.com.sg Subject: Re: Tp755cx 800x600 resolution under Warp] yes, I very much like the 800 x 800 on Warp, I am now typing in a 10 x 6 font which is quite clear and gives lots of space on the screen. oops 800 x 800 -> 800 x 600 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 15 14:38:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14867; Sat, 15 Jul 95 14:38:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13622; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 14:29:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 14:29:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13612; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 14:29:48 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA21938; Sat, 15 Jul 95 14:30:49 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 95 14:30:49 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507151830.AA21938@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: lang@asylum.sf.ca.us, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2, WIN95 and THinkpads the real reason I suggested comp.os.os2.advocacy was not so much to remove the thread from tp750, which of course a kill file can do, as to point people in the direction of the place where there is really extensive discussion of this topic on an ongoing basis, with much more knowledgable people. Yes, the 755CX came with very good and very complete documentation, except that the installation of MWAVE was a bit messed jup, and I still nee3ded the 4-page FAX from IBM on this. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 15 17:20:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24825; Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:20:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25648; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 17:10:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 17:10:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25582; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 17:10:18 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA11370; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 16:10:13 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id QAA40907; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 16:10:12 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 16:10:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Robert Dewar Cc: lang@asylum.sf.ca.us, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2, WIN95 and THinkpads In-Reply-To: <9507151830.AA21938@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 15 Jul 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > with much > more knowledgable people. But sometimes a lot less rational. :-) Somebody mentioned that some of the thinkpads allow you to choose which operating system you want to run the first time you boot up the machine. Does anybody know how the licensing works on that? By allowing the user to choose which OS, they cannot know how many copies were sold, and thus how much to pay Microsoft. The only solution I could think of would be to charge for both OS's, which seems a little expensive just to offer a choice. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 15 17:23:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24832; Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:23:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26090; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 17:16:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 17:16:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26080; Sat, 15 Jul 1995 17:16:38 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA11493; Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:17:34 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:17:34 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507152117.AA11493@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, mschaef@cs.utexas.edu Subject: Re: OS/2, WIN95 and THinkpads Cc: lang@asylum.sf.ca.us, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU "Somebody mentoined that some of the thnkpads allow you to choose which operating system you want to run the first time you boot up the machine: That's confused, both OS's stay around, you just get a choice of which to enter by default the first time, this is a dual boot setup, so you can switch backwards and forwards at any time. Certainly they are "charging" for both OS's since both remain accessible (remember that to run Warp with Windows applications you need a Windows license anyway), the diskette factory on the machine allows you to build full sets of diskettes for Warp and for Win 3.11 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 16 00:18:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16917; Sun, 16 Jul 95 00:18:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24906; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 00:07:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 00:07:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24896; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 00:07:31 -0400 Received: from tubular-02.synapse.net (tubular-02.synapse.net [199.84.52.204]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7.Beta.10/8.7.Beta.10) with SMTP id AAA18134 for ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 00:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199507160407.AAA18134@sentinel.synapse.net> X-Sender: phong@pop.synapse.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 00:08:36 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: phong@synapse.net (Patrick Hong) Subject: 755CX - 800x600 screen I agree with Robert that the 800x600 screen is fantastic. I was apprehensive before I bought the machine, but now that the screen real estate is there, I definitely wouldn't trade back to the 640x480 screen. The information is crisp, clear and bright and I haven't had any problems with my eyes, after working on the machine day in and day out. However, I do wish the machine had a way of utilizing all the screen while just in DOS. While I can live with it, I would prefer to have the best of both worlds since I heard AST (?) had a new 800x600 10.4" screen that can be used at its maximum size under DOS. I do wish I had kept OS/2 on my machine but my 810 MB is already full and I have to keep a similar configuration to my client's 755CE's. I definitely like OS/2 but it looks like I'll have to wait before I can reinstall it again. ...patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 16 02:40:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25940; Sun, 16 Jul 95 02:40:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02750; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 02:30:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 02:30:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02735; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 02:30:35 -0400 Received: from cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca by undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca id <57012-1>; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 02:30:20 -0400 From: Kai Chung Cheung To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Sign off Message-Id: <95Jul16.023020edt.57012-1@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 02:30:16 -0400 Thank you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 16 12:48:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25411; Sun, 16 Jul 95 12:48:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18861; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 12:26:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 12:26:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18847; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 12:26:26 -0400 Received: from ts8-8.westwood.ts.ucla.edu (ts8-8.westwood.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.17.169]) by ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id JAA06098 for ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 09:26:59 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 09:26:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199507161626.JAA06098@ucla.edu> X-Sender: sshaw@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1b7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Stanford Shaw Subject: NEW THINKPADS Business week for 24 July reports: "The ThinkPad portable line will be totally revamped and will share the innovative keyboard of the highly regarded 'Butterfly.'New, lower priced machines will be aimed at boosting IBM's 9 percent share of the portable business." Any ideas on what the new machines will be like and when they will appear? Stanford Shaw Stanford J. Shaw sshaw@ucla.edu Professor of Turkish and Judeo-Turkish History University of California Los Angeles, CA, 90024 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 16 12:49:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25417; Sun, 16 Jul 95 12:49:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18871; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 12:26:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 12:26:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18848; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 12:26:26 -0400 Received: from ts8-8.westwood.ts.ucla.edu (ts8-8.westwood.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.17.169]) by ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id JAA06100 for ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 09:27:01 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 09:27:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199507161627.JAA06100@ucla.edu> X-Sender: sshaw@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1b7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Stanford Shaw Subject: New thinkpads The 24 July issue of Business Week reports that "Fall is also a big season for corporate buyers, and IBM has goodies for them too. The ThinkPad portable line will be totally revamped and will share the innovative keyboard of the highly regarded 'Butterfly' PC. New, lower priced machines will be aimed at boosting IBM's 9 percenty of the portable business." Anyone have any ideas about the new machines and when they will be available? Stanford Shaw Stanford J. Shaw sshaw@ucla.edu Professor of Turkish and Judeo-Turkish History University of California Los Angeles, CA, 90024 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 16 14:27:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28935; Sun, 16 Jul 95 14:27:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24880; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 14:14:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 14:14:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24870; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 14:13:59 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA07185; Sun, 16 Jul 95 14:14:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 95 14:14:53 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507161814.AA07185@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: sshaw@ucla.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: NEW THINKPADS that sounds good, I really agonized a bit over whether to gte a 755CX or a 701 this last time around, I really like the keyboard on the 701, for one thing it is much quieter, but I decided the low performance of the 701 was outweighed. What I would like to see is 701 form factor and weight 755 MHs Pentium (at least) SVGA screen LI/On decent battery 40 megs max memory MWave stuff From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 16 16:44:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09013; Sun, 16 Jul 95 16:44:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04123; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:28:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:27:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04109; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:27:52 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA02517; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 15:27:48 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id PAA20405; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 15:27:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 15:27:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Robert Dewar Cc: sshaw@ucla.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: NEW THINKPADS In-Reply-To: <9507161814.AA07185@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 16 Jul 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > that sounds good, I really agonized a bit over whether to gte a 755CX or > a 701 this last time around, I really like the keyboard on the 701, for > one thing it is much quieter, but I decided the low performance of the 701 > was outweighed. > > What I would like to see is > > 701 form factor and weight > 755 MHs Pentium (at least) > SVGA screen > > LI/On decent battery > 40 megs max memory > MWave stuff Now _that_ would be the Thinkpad to compete with the Portege 610CT. For me at least, Toshiba seemed to steel a some of IBM's thunder by releasing the 610 when they did, at the price they did. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 16 16:46:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09019; Sun, 16 Jul 95 16:46:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04621; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:32:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:32:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04602; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:32:18 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA09589; Sun, 16 Jul 95 16:33:15 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 95 16:33:15 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507162033.AA09589@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, mschaef@cs.utexas.edu Subject: Re: NEW THINKPADS Cc: sshaw@ucla.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU I HATE the trackpoint-style thing on the Portege, I find it unusable, basically it is a tiny, very inaccurate joystick, at least I am assuming the old and new Portege are the same here. Also the screen on the Portege is not nearly as nice (certainly not as nice as the new 600 x 800, but not even as nice as the old TP screen), still in general marketing terms, I think you are right, and indeed I should update my shopping list to say 90 MHz Pentium whlie I am at it, because that is what you can get on the Portege -- you can also get a big capacity external battery. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 16 16:56:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09260; Sun, 16 Jul 95 16:56:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05645; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:43:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:43:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05635; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:43:21 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA02886; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 15:43:16 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id PAA12529; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 15:43:15 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 15:43:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Robert Dewar Cc: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, sshaw@ucla.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: NEW THINKPADS In-Reply-To: <9507162033.AA09589@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 16 Jul 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > I HATE the trackpoint-style thing on the Portege, I find it unusable, > basically it is a tiny, very inaccurate joystick, at least I am assuming > the old and new Portege are the same here. It's licensed from IBM, except for the buttons, they are the same. > Also the screen on the Portege is not nearly as nice (certainly not as > nice as the new 600 x 800, but not even as nice as the old TP screen), Is the 701C 800x600? If it is, that's a _big_ advantage. I know the 701C has a physically larger screen. > still in general marketing terms, I think you are right, and indeed I > should update my shopping list to say 90 MHz Pentium whlie I am at it, > because that is what you can get on the Portege -- you can also get a > big capacity external battery. The point I was trying to make is that for just over $4000, you can buy a 90MHz Pentium, 9.4" Active matrix display, 8MB RAM, ~700MB HDD, SoundBlaster sound, and dual Type II PCMCIA slots. While it lacks a lot of the finesse of the 701C (large keyboard/screen), it packs a lot more punch. I was seriously considering springing for a 701C until the 610CT came out, and now, I'm waiting to see what IBM releases. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 16 17:48:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10761; Sun, 16 Jul 95 17:48:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09572; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 17:33:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 17:33:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09558; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 17:33:26 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.43] (mac43.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA00448; Sun, 16 Jul 95 17:33:10 EDT Message-Id: <9507162133.AA00448@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 17:44:35 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: windows won't start I may be the only person with this problem, but just in case... About 3 months after I installed WARP, I lost the ability to start windows under DOS boot. Windows under WARP worked fine, so I didn't bother figuring out what was wrong. Today, I had a bit of spare time, so I fooled around a bit and fixed it. All I did was run C:\WINDOWS\SETUP.EXE. I didn't change any options. I just ran it! Everything now works. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 16 17:50:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11030; Sun, 16 Jul 95 17:50:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09886; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 17:39:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 17:39:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09875; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 17:39:12 -0400 Received: from ts4-1.westwood.ts.ucla.edu (ts4-1.westwood.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.17.98]) by ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA31807 for ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 14:39:52 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 14:39:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199507162139.OAA31807@ucla.edu> X-Sender: sshaw@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1b7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Stanford Shaw Subject: THINKPADS 760 AND 300 According to the PCWeek of 17 July, which is now available on Ziffnet, IBM will put out two new Thinkpad series this Fall. According to the story, the Thinkpad 760 will have a 12.1 inch TFT display, a 120 MHz Pentium processor, and an 84 key keyboard that will tilt; also lithium ion battery, 28.8 K modem, 810 Mbyte hard disk, and 4x speed CD drive, with price of over $7,000. Apparently lower priced models also will be offered with 90 Mhz chip. The 300 series will have a 2x CD Rom, nickel hydride battery, 486DX4/100 chip, and 10.4 TFT display, and will be priced at somewhere around $3,799. More details can be found on Ziffnet. Stanford J. Shaw sshaw@ucla.edu Professor of Turkish and Judeo-Turkish History University of California Los Angeles, CA, 90024 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 16 19:04:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14212; Sun, 16 Jul 95 19:04:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15516; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 18:49:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 18:48:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15506; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 18:48:55 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 19:14:36 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Windows95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Argh ..still no luck with Windows95 and Mwave...there's a new file on IBM's web site called tpwin95.txt...some tips on getting Windows95 to run on a Thinkpad ....it sort of helped...there's something in Device Manager now .... But still no sound. Any ideas? Oh yea, I'm using Build 474 ....anything changed in the newer builds? And yes, I tried the >16 meg patch ....and a coupla others as well. http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 17 09:45:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00608; Mon, 17 Jul 95 09:45:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01023; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:24:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:23:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00999; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:23:52 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa28634; 17 Jul 95 12:41 +0100 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa09247; 17 Jul 95 12:41 +0100 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: adapters Date: Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:06:38 BST Message-Id: <9507171106.aa06742@hipass.filct.com> its good to keep in mind that - assuming you have a 100/110-220/240 AC adapter, if you cannot find a plug adapter you can always buy a power cord in the country you are visiting. i think the end that goes into the adapter is world standard; the plug end is localized to the country. more expensive than a plug adapter usually, and more troublesome to carry, but it will work. This is my preference. In my experience, adaptors tend to protrude a long way from the socket, and, certainly with the UK plug in the back (which for those who don't know is not one of the most compact in the world :-), the whole assembly threatens to pull itself out by its own weight. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 17 10:02:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05881; Mon, 17 Jul 95 10:02:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03772; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:50:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:50:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03748; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:50:47 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id ab28636; 17 Jul 95 12:41 +0100 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ab09247; 17 Jul 95 12:41 +0100 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: MWave & Warp Date: Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:28:48 BST Message-Id: <9507171128.aa06788@hipass.filct.com> I tried some time ago and failed to get Warp to recognise the Mwave modem. Has anyone done this? I just get the message: MWME0008: The MWave manager is not loded My machine is a 755CSE. I picked up the recent driver stuff from pcco (the loading message says MWAVEDD.SYS V2.123), but still no luck. If anyone has any tips - e.g. order of loading stuff, what to say in the multimedia install (type of sound card), config, etc, I would be most grateful. Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 17 10:17:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06889; Mon, 17 Jul 95 10:17:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04626; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 10:01:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 10:01:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from qrz.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04616; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 10:01:27 -0400 Received: (from flloyd@localhost) by qrz.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id HAA04568 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 07:00:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 07:00:05 -0700 From: Fred Lloyd Message-Id: <199507171400.HAA04568@qrz.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: sniff... I'ts got to go... X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII It's been fun, but I'm going to have to leg go of my baby. Here goes: IBM ThinkPad 750C 10.4" Active matrix color 12MB RAM, 170MB Hard Disk 2.88 MB Triple Density Floppy Disk PCMCIA Ethernet Card - Kingston PCMCIA 28.8 Modem (New USR Courier 28.8) 3 NiMH Batteries (IBM) New "Cat's Tongue" Pointer 1 Yr Old, Asking $3100 - FedEX Shipping Included Email flloyd@qrz.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 17 11:21:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09801; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:21:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09957; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:03:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:03:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09946; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:03:02 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA09292; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:03:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:03:47 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507171503.AA09292@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: mike@filct.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: MWave & Warp call IBM, tell them to send you the four page FAX on installing MWAVE under WARP, that solved all my problems. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 17 11:23:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09812; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:23:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10291; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:06:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:06:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10221; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:06:45 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA09404; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:07:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:07:42 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507171507.AA09404@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, flloyd@qrz.com Subject: Re: sniff... I'ts got to go... "1 Yr Old, Asking $3100 - FedEX Shipping Included" the base price in NYC on this machine new is now under $3000, so the $3100 may be high for a used machine (of course you get two extra batteries, 8 meg RAM and he 28.8 modem, which between them new would be worth $850 or so new). In general, old thinkpads seem to be available at *very* reasonable costs with full 3-year factory guarantee these days, so if you are thinking about buying an out of date model, be sure to chcek. An easu source is the Tuesday New York Times. The NYC stores have machines in stock, and seem to have significantly better prices than mail order. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 17 11:41:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10993; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:41:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12896; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:29:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:29:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.interactive.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12886; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:29:53 -0400 Received: from localhost (daver@localhost) by ns.interactive.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA12817; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:30:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:30:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Roberts Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: sniff... I'ts got to go... In-Reply-To: <9507171507.AA09404@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU On Mon, 17 Jul 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > In general, old thinkpads seem to be available at *very* reasonable > costs with full 3-year factory guarantee these days, so if you are > thinking about buying an out of date model, be sure to chcek. An easu > source is the Tuesday New York Times. The NYC stores have machines in > stock, and seem to have significantly better prices than mail order. Yeah. I picked up a 720c recently for $1200 with 16MB RAM and lots of other goodies. The problem is, of course, the 720c isn't supported anymore (is it? IBM's web site seems to ignore it alot). Also, I'm looking for a place to get a bigger replaceable hard disk, since I've only got 170MB and doublers suck (but I use them anyway). Is the only place to get these IBM itself? I'm thinking I might need to upgrade the ROMs or something. Anyone up to speed on the latest 720c stuff? :: David J. Roberts, Network Administrator ::::: Internet: djr@ACE.NET ::::: :: InterActive Networks, Inc., Paterson, New Jersey :: http://WWW.ACE.NET :: From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 17 12:08:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12829; Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:08:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15121; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:52:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:52:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15111; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:52:27 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10821; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:53:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:53:28 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507171553.AA10821@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: daver@interactive.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: sniff... I'ts got to go... Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU "720c recently for $1200 with 16MB RAM" that's TOO good a price by any standards, are you saying that was a NEW price (because that is what I was talking about), or was it second hand. Even second hand, that is *WAY* under the market value (after all the memory alone is worth half what you paid). If you know a source new at this price, please tell. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 17 12:21:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13460; Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:21:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15595; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:58:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:58:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.interactive.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15584; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:58:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (daver@localhost) by ns.interactive.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA13550; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:59:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:59:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Roberts To: Robert Dewar Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: sniff... I'ts got to go... In-Reply-To: <9507171553.AA10821@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 17 Jul 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > "720c recently for $1200 with 16MB RAM" > > that's TOO good a price by any standards, are you saying that was a NEW > price (because that is what I was talking about), or was it second hand. > Even second hand, that is *WAY* under the market value (after all the > memory alone is worth half what you paid). If you know a source new > at this price, please tell. It's used. The owner really wanted to get rid of it, and was pretty well-to-do, and a good friend of mine, so he didn't really care. One time deal only, sorry :) :: David J. Roberts, Network Administrator ::::: Internet: djr@ACE.NET ::::: :: InterActive Networks, Inc., Paterson, New Jersey :: http://WWW.ACE.NET :: From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 17 12:39:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14761; Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:39:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17557; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 12:22:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 12:22:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17539; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 12:22:10 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA13206; Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:23:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:23:07 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507171623.AA13206@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: daver@interactive.net, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: sniff... I'ts got to go... Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU OK, so that really was a give away, even today, $1200 is far too little for a 720C with 16 megs. Actually it might be useful to try to maintain a database of prices of new obsolete machines, and of second hand prices. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 17 22:07:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25422; Mon, 17 Jul 95 22:07:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03681; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 21:53:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 21:53:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from qrz.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03658; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 21:53:13 -0400 Received: (from flloyd@localhost) by qrz.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA11859; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 18:51:51 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 18:51:51 -0700 From: Fred Lloyd Message-Id: <199507180151.SAA11859@qrz.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: sniff... I'ts got to go... X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Your point is well taken, and you're right about the 8MB of ram and the modem, which are both new - well, not very old. RAM does not wear out at all, and the modem I bought two months ago and have used twice. Also note the key word in the offer, "Asking". Cheers, -fred flloyd@qrz.com > >"1 Yr Old, Asking $3100 - FedEX Shipping Included" > >the base price in NYC on this machine new is now under $3000, so the >$3100 may be high for a used machine (of course you get two extra >batteries, 8 meg RAM and he 28.8 modem, which between them new would >be worth $850 or so new). > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 18 00:35:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06090; Tue, 18 Jul 95 00:35:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15156; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 00:19:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 00:19:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15134; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 00:18:53 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA15875 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for < tp750@cs.utk.edu>); Tue, 18 Jul 1995 12:15:13 +0800 Message-Id: <199507180415.AA15875@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Sat, 15 Jul 95 11:07:16 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: OS/2, WIN95 and THinkpads On Fri, 14 Jul 95 18:23:12 -0400 Robert Dewar wrote: >Similarly the failure to include the critical book on how to install Warp on >the thinkpad was a real problem on the CD (it was only when I bought my CX >that I found out about this, since it was included in the CX, as was a full >description of the diskette factory). > I have always wondered how it was possible to install Warp on the 755CD with the CDRom since the normal procedure is to use 2 installation diskettes to boot and then continue with the CD. Given that on the 755CD you can only have the floppy drive or the CDRom drive on the machine at any one time, can one boot the floppies and then carry on installation with the CDRom? Is this the problem you are referring to? Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 18 01:05:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08526; Tue, 18 Jul 95 01:05:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17263; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 00:45:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 00:45:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17238; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 00:45:37 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA19625; Tue, 18 Jul 95 00:46:38 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 95 00:46:38 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507180446.AA19625@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, wyip@nicotra.com.sg Subject: Re: OS/2, WIN95 and THinkpads Cc: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU right, you can install WARP using the internal floppy and internal CD ROM, switching bvetween them at the appropriate point in the procedure. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 19 09:58:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09098; Wed, 19 Jul 95 09:58:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05968; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:32:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:32:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05921; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:32:43 -0400 Received: from lorax.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id AA08217; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:27:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 95 09:21:04 EDT From: "Gary E. Moore" Subject: Thinkpads and Netscape To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've run into a problem using a 755CD and the Netscape Internet WWW browser. Netscape 1.1N includes a built in .au player. Unfortunately, while running netscape and attempting to play an .au file, the whole system freezes. The Netscape technical support folks claim it must be a sound card problem. Anyone had a similiar problem or possibly a fix for this? -------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Moore Ventana Communications Group gary@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/gary -------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 19 12:01:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15573; Wed, 19 Jul 95 12:01:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21207; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 11:46:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 11:46:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21180; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 11:46:07 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id LAA10100; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 11:50:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 11:50:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: "Gary E. Moore" Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Thinkpads and Netscape In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Gary E. Moore wrote: > I've run into a problem using a 755CD and the Netscape Internet WWW browser. > Netscape 1.1N includes a built in .au player. Unfortunately, while running > netscape and attempting to play an .au file, the whole system freezes. The > Netscape technical support folks claim it must be a sound card problem. > > Anyone had a similiar problem or possibly a fix for this? I have had bad luck with the Netscape sound player as a whole, including on my 750. I advise just junking it and using the windows sound recorder or (better yet) win-play-any (wplany is the file name, I think). You can find it off a link on Netscape's home pages. I think the Netscape sound player is just junk and it has nothing to do with the Thinkpad. I also think it was a stupid addition - use freaking OLE or DDE or something, quit cluttering up my hard drive with duplicate utilities! If they wanted to just make it easier for newbies, they could have had the default association be with the sound recorder. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 19 15:50:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00792; Wed, 19 Jul 95 15:50:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10054; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 15:35:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 15:35:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kickme.cts.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10027; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 15:35:08 -0400 Received: from C2LAPTOP.iaco.com by kickme.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0sYetR-00025rC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 12:34 PDT Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John Gold" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 12:34:42 +0000 Subject: Dock II Reply-To: jgold@iaco.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) I have a Dock II for sale, best offer takes it. J. Gold From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 19 16:33:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07589; Wed, 19 Jul 95 16:33:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01824; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 14:06:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 14:06:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01808; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 14:06:15 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07587; Wed, 19 Jul 95 11:05:16 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id LAA21527; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 11:05:04 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9507191105.ZM21525@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 11:05:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: Don Whiteside "Re: Thinkpads and Netscape" (Jul 19, 11:50am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Thinkpads and Netscape Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 19, 11:50am, Don Whiteside wrote: > Subject: Re: Thinkpads and Netscape > On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Gary E. Moore wrote: > > > I've run into a problem using a 755CD and the Netscape Internet WWW browser. > > Netscape 1.1N includes a built in .au player. Unfortunately, while running > > netscape and attempting to play an .au file, the whole system freezes. The > > Netscape technical support folks claim it must be a sound card problem. > > > > Anyone had a similiar problem or possibly a fix for this? > > I have had bad luck with the Netscape sound player as a whole, > including on my 750. I advise just junking it and using the windows sound > recorder or (better yet) win-play-any (wplany is the file name, I think). > You can find it off a link on Netscape's home pages. > I think the Netscape sound player is just junk and it has nothing to do > with the Thinkpad. I also think it was a stupid addition - use freaking > OLE or DDE or something, quit cluttering up my hard drive with duplicate > utilities! If they wanted to just make it easier for newbies, they could > have had the default association be with the sound recorder. If you go into the newsgroup reader mode in Netscape 1.1N, there are several newsgroups related to Netscape. When Netscape 1.1N first came out, there were a tremendous number of bugs including, yes, Netscape freezing while using the .au player. Robert From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 19 19:37:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19304; Wed, 19 Jul 95 19:37:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27353; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 19:26:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 19:26:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27343; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 19:26:27 -0400 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12+PanixU1.1) id TAA26986; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 19:14:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 19:14:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael MacDonald To: "Gary E. Moore" Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Thinkpads and Netscape In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I run into the same problem. In addition to that, Netscape crashes often when the screen colors is set to 64K. It has something to do with the graphics driver. Very annoying. Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Gary E. Moore wrote: > I've run into a problem using a 755CD and the Netscape Internet WWW browser. > Netscape 1.1N includes a built in .au player. Unfortunately, while running > netscape and attempting to play an .au file, the whole system freezes. The > Netscape technical support folks claim it must be a sound card problem. > > Anyone had a similiar problem or possibly a fix for this? > > -------------------------------------------------- > Gary E. Moore Ventana Communications Group > gary@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/gary > -------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 20 00:44:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09317; Thu, 20 Jul 95 00:44:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16081; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 00:31:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 00:31:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from balder.ssds.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16065; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 00:31:35 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by balder.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) id WAA20708 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 22:31:21 -0600 Received: from denver(134.127.16.1) by balder via smap (V1.3) id sma020701; Wed Jul 19 22:31:08 1995 Received: from sanjose.ssds.com (sanjose.ssds.com [134.127.10.1]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id WAA23954 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 22:31:07 -0600 Received: from rem_sjc21 by sanjose.ssds.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AB04842; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 21:31:00 -0700 Message-Id: <9507200431.AB04842@sanjose.ssds.com> X-Sender: cds@sanjose.ssds.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 23:30:48 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Chris.Swanson@ssds.com (Chris Swanson - SSDS) Subject: MWAVE modem and WFW hanging Greetings, Has anybody run into this? I have the latest (1.1) version of the MWAVE modem 14kbps, and when running under WFW, it hangs when doing high volume work (such as a Kermit transfer, or more likely a large FTP or POP session over ppp). I have used Dynacomm (terminal emulator), Windows terminal, and PCNFS-Pro (ppp link). Does anybody have any suggestions? Regards, -=Chris / Chris Swanson ____/ ____/ ___ / ____/ Engineer ____ / ____ / /__/ / ____ / 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd #993 _______/ _______/ _______/ _______/ Bloomington, MN 55473 business driven technology solutions. (612) 888-4045 FAX (612) 888-4066 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 20 05:09:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22793; Thu, 20 Jul 95 05:09:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03376; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 04:57:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 04:57:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tequesta.gate.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03364; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 04:57:13 -0400 Received: from seminole.gate.net (jbush@seminole.gate.net [199.227.0.14]) by tequesta.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id EAA54738; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 04:55:23 -0400 Received: (from jbush@localhost) by seminole.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id EAA98708; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 04:52:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 04:52:17 -0400 (EDT) From: James Bush To: Chris Swanson - SSDS Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: MWAVE modem and WFW hanging In-Reply-To: <9507200431.AB04842@sanjose.ssds.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII chris i use it all the time with the internal modem. under the c:> dos prompt just type mwmodem. then use any communication program, such as telix, procomm, or such, and no problems with any size file. you must get out >from under windows to do this :]]]] best jamie On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Chris Swanson - SSDS wrote: > Greetings, > > Has anybody run into this? I have the latest (1.1) version of the > MWAVE modem 14kbps, and when running under WFW, it hangs when doing high > volume work (such as a Kermit transfer, or more likely a large FTP or POP > session over ppp). I have used Dynacomm (terminal emulator), Windows > terminal, and PCNFS-Pro (ppp link). Does anybody have any suggestions? > > Regards, > -=Chris > > > / Chris Swanson > ____/ ____/ ___ / ____/ Engineer > ____ / ____ / /__/ / ____ / 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd #993 > _______/ _______/ _______/ _______/ Bloomington, MN 55473 > business driven technology solutions. (612) 888-4045 FAX (612) 888-4066 > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 21 10:01:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27967; Fri, 21 Jul 95 10:01:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08959; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 09:37:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 09:37:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08948; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 09:37:34 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id GAA18015; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 06:37:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199507211337.GAA18015@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 95 06:39:41 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Upgrade RAM to 16MB TP755Cs Forgive me guys. I know this was thrashed around here on the list earlier. I am interested in upgrading my 755Cs from 8MB Ram to 16MB. Naturally, I don't want to pay a ton of bucks. Suggestions? If this issue has hit the list too many times, please reply by e-mail. I didn't have any dough back then, and the prices were high, so I didn't save the messages. Any comments about the improvement in performance using a TP 755Cs with OS/2 Warp, when moving from 8 to 16 MB, would also be appreciated. Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 21 10:22:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28915; Fri, 21 Jul 95 10:22:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12284; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 10:09:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 10:09:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12266; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 10:09:18 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA27108; Fri, 21 Jul 95 10:10:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 95 10:10:12 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507211410.AA27108@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrade RAM to 16MB TP755Cs 8 -> 16 MB with WARP is a huge improvement, enough for most purposes in upgrading consider going with a DIMM and an adaptor if you can find an 8 meg DIM (I have only seen 4 and 16's so far). If there are 8 meg DIMS, the advantage is you can add another later without having to junk the first one. The straight price on an 8 meg credit card should be about $350 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 21 13:27:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11123; Fri, 21 Jul 95 13:27:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26106; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 13:09:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 13:09:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po8.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26095; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 13:09:30 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po8.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA12850 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 13:09:18 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 13:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix14.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 13:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix14.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 13:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix14.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix14.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 13:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <0k3xwZO00YUq0CdFUB@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 13:08:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: looking for harddrive and tape drive hi, I have a TP755Cs with 20megs of RAM and a tiny 170mb harddrive. I'm looking to upgrade the harddrive to 810mb. also I'm looking for a tape drive that will work with Warp and connects to the parallel port. can some kind soul recommend some good drives? btw, I'd like a harddrive that goes into my TP without any assembly/disassembly. the harddrive doesn't have to be IBM, as long as it works with my TP. thanks in advance From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 21 15:22:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16669; Fri, 21 Jul 95 15:22:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04882; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 14:59:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 14:59:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jupiter.cast.msstate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04862; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 14:59:46 -0400 Received: from berea.cast.msstate.edu by jupiter.cast.msstate.edu (4.1/6.0s-FWP); id AA24915; Fri, 21 Jul 95 13:59:32 CDT Received: by berea.cast.msstate.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id NAA00796; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 13:59:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 13:59:28 +36000 From: Valentine Anantharaj To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755CE - charging/discharging battery? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to know how to prevent the battery from charged or discharged while using AC power. When I hook the power cord, it tries to either charge or discharge the battery. The manual recommends not charging the battery before it is fully discharged in order to prolong batttery life, and not suspending or hibernating while the battery is being discharged. Basically, when I am on AC power I want the battery to be left alone. Is there a way to do it short of removing the battery pack from the TP. The manual advises against turning off the switch on the battery pack. Thanks for your help. Regards, VGA (val@cast.msstate.edu) Valentine G. Anantharaj --------------- val@cast.msstate.edu --- MSU - Center for Air-Sea Technology vga1@ra.msstate.edu | Bldg. 1103, Room 233 Tel.: (601)688-1157 | Stennis Space Center Fax: (601)688-7100 | MS 39529-5005 -------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 21 16:21:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21358; Fri, 21 Jul 95 16:21:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09786; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:03:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:03:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09776; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:03:32 -0400 Received: from ppp33.basenet.net (ppp33.basenet.net [204.248.88.33]) by basenet.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA05820; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 14:00:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 14:00:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199507211900.OAA05820@basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Valentine Anantharaj From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: TP755CE - charging/discharging battery? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >I would like to know how to prevent the battery from charged or >discharged while using AC power. When I hook the power cord, it tries to either charge or discharge the battery. The manual recommends not >charging the battery before it is fully discharged in order to prolong >batttery life, and not suspending or hibernating while the battery is >being discharged. > >Basically, when I am on AC power I want the battery to be left alone. Is there a way to do it short of removing the battery pack from the TP. >The manual advises against turning off the switch on the battery pack. > >Thanks for your help. > > >Regards, > >VGA (val@cast.msstate.edu) > Use the ThinkPad features option labeled 'Power' and click on the 'U-turn' like symbol. This turns off the charging circuit. If you don't have OS/2 or Windows, try running 'Power' from a command line (I think that is the correct command, I know it's POWEROS2 with OS/2 installed). |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 21 16:40:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22172; Fri, 21 Jul 95 16:40:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11914; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:28:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:28:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dill.lcs.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11874; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:28:46 -0400 From: Received: by dill.lcs.mit.edu; id AA00970; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:28:43 -0400 Message-Id: <9507212028.AA00970@dill.lcs.mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu Subject: SERIAL PORT PROBLEMS Date: Fri, 21 Jul 95 16:28:43 -0400 X-Mts: smtp I purchased a used 755CE with a modem option installed on the serial port in the disk drive compartment. I can't get it working. Could someone give me the configuration necessary to make this work? Does it involve the DSP, Telephony function, or any other option in the "Thinkpad setup" portion of Windows? Please email directly - I'm not on the list yet. -Drew From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 21 18:23:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00215; Fri, 21 Jul 95 18:23:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19641; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 18:10:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 18:10:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from granite.sentex.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19605; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 18:10:01 -0400 Received: from localhost (hornett@localhost) by granite.sentex.net (8.6.5/8.6.9) id SAA04461; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 18:26:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199507212226.SAA04461@granite.sentex.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: David R Hornett Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 18:11:32 EST Reply-To: David R Hornett Subject: Absolute "Dumb" battery Has anyone had any experience with the Absolute brand nimh 'dumb' battery??? I just purchased one and i am having trouble getting the pad to charge it....it seems to charge for about 3-4 minutes then the battery status light flashes between amber and green and the charge indicator light goes out.......hmmmmm any chance that there is a command / switch that lets the tp know its got a dumb battery......any thoughts/comments greatly appreciated David R Hornett Thinkpad 750c 12 meg ram 340 hd Dock II with 4x cd rom 14.4 data fax mghrtz hornett@sentex.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 21 19:03:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00771; Fri, 21 Jul 95 19:03:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21559; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 18:44:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 18:44:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21543; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 18:44:36 -0400 Received: from ppp14.basenet.net (ppp14.basenet.net [204.248.88.14]) by basenet.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA14823; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:41:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:41:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199507212141.QAA14823@basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Randal Whittle From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: TP755CE - charging/discharging battery? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >> Use the ThinkPad features option labeled 'Power' and click on the 'U-turn' >> like symbol. This turns off the charging circuit. If you >> don't have OS/2 or Windows, try running 'Power' from a command line (I think >> that is the correct command, I know it's POWEROS2 with OS/2 installed). > > It is my understanding that this "U-turn" you describe does >a battery discharge--it doesn't merely leave the battery alone. > > Of course, things may have changed--my machine is merely a 750C. Excuse my momentary lapse of sanity. I must have been thinking about mowing the lawn. Of course the 'U-Turn' causes the battery to be discharged, in addition to turning off the charging circuit. I hope I didn't cause anybody any undo stress. I think I'll go mow the lawn now. I should have enough brain left to at least follow my path. Sorry folks ;-) |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 21 19:31:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06925; Fri, 21 Jul 95 19:31:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23020; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 19:16:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 19:16:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23010; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 19:16:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199507212316.TAA23010@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from physics1.byu.edu by UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 21 Jul 95 19:17:58 EST Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 17:13:53 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ani-l@utkvm1.utk.edu, MEDITATION@beach.utmb.edu, RESIDENTS@beach.utmb.edu, WILDWEST@moose.uvm.edu From: romance@in.the.former.USSR.ua Subject: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) Not to long ago, I posted a message re: meeting women of the former soviet union through romance ads. In August, Olga will travel to Moscow from her home in Kiev, Ukraine. In Moscow, Olga will have a much easier and cost efficient means to place your personal romance ad throughout Russia. Last week I received the following from Olga: "I have already sent your ad to the papers in such towns: Moscow, St. Petersburg, Vladimir, Kazan. At nearest future I will send your ad to the paper in some more 12 towns of Russia, where papers are published. Some times (in winter, spring & now) I placed your ad in other papers, but they are not most popular paper in Moscow and some large cities of Russia. Besides, I am continuing to place your ad in papers of Ukraine. I promise to place your ad in some other papers when I will come to Moscow in August. I am glad that you have received fairly many letters from Russian & Ukrainian girls and I think you will received some more ones and will find your ideal in my country soon. I thank you very much ones more for your kindness & your help. My best wishes, Olga" This isn't a scam - call it panhandling if you want. . . I sent her $40 or $50 and I've received over 45 responses. Unlike placing romance ads in the U.S., women from the former USSR respond. Although one would guess the are doing so in the hopes of American citizenship, I haven't found it so. Olga lives in Kiev, Ukraine (population 3 million) and will travel to Moscow in August to visit her father. If you were to send a letter this week, she would receive it in time. The population of Moscow is 10 million -- (3 times the size of Los Angeles.) Feel free to send a letter and ask her your questions. She will be happy to respond. Olga's address: Ukraine Kiev 253121 Dekabristov Street 5 - 178 Olga Kozmina I am posting anonymously because of the flames and volume of inquiries that would result otherwise. I think those who are truely interested will take the time to write. _____________________________________________________________________________ To: probable flamer Subject: polite note Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net-etiquette," she believes that offering lonely singles the possibility of romance exceeds the cost of angering those who feel the net shouldn't be used in this fashion. IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site. peace. . . From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 21 22:25:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14754; Fri, 21 Jul 95 22:25:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03246; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 22:09:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 22:09:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03236; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 22:09:54 -0400 Received: by merle.acns.nwu.edu (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA066588991; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 21:09:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 21:09:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Subject: Serial Number To: Thinkpad List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The serial number on the label of my 355Cs has rubbed totally off. I have only had the machine three months, and there is a problem with the suspend mode that will need repair. I need the number, and I lost the manual where it was wriitten during my last move. How can I get this number some other way? It had been suggested to read the number off the motherboard, but that requires disassembly. My dealer wants $80 to open my laptop just to get the number! Can I open it myself? and if so, how? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. see ya. --Conrad Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Northwestern University conrada-b@nwu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 21 23:10:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16417; Fri, 21 Jul 95 23:10:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06435; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 22:59:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 22:59:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06425; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 22:59:29 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA10691 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for < tp750@cs.utk.edu>); Sat, 22 Jul 1995 10:55:14 +0800 Message-Id: <199507220255.AA10691@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 95 10:43:40 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: krisdw@basenet.net Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: TP755CE - charging/discharging battery? On Fri, 21 Jul 1995 14:00:35 -0500 you wrote: >Use the ThinkPad features option labeled 'Power' and click on the 'U-turn' >like symbol. This turns off the charging circuit. If you >don't have OS/2 or Windows, try running 'Power' from a command line (I think >that is the correct command, I know it's POWEROS2 with OS/2 installed). > I used to control power management in DOS with PS2.EXE but after I switch over to OS/2, I lost the ability to control those functions which I earlier could in DOS with this program. After I had installed the Utilities 2.0 diskette in OS/2 all I got was the EasyPlaying icon in the WPS, the PCMCIA icon in the OS/2 System icon and another Power icon in the same folder. This last icon only shows the status of the battery and since I never use the battery there is actually nothing to display. What I would like to do is to stop my harddisk spinning after 5 minutes of inactivity, at the moment its configured in DOS to stop at 3. Can you tell me where I should find POWEROS2? I have failed to find it in the Utilities diskette. Am I supposed to install the utilties with the battery working, is that why I dont have any icon enabling me to control power? Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 22 00:39:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22198; Sat, 22 Jul 95 00:39:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12504; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 00:24:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 00:24:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12492; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 00:24:54 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA21423; Sat, 22 Jul 95 00:25:44 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Jul 95 00:25:44 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507220425.AA21423@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: krisdw@basenet.net, val@cast.msstate.edu Subject: Re: TP755CE - charging/discharging battery? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU I am confused, on my power control, the U-turn completely discharges the battery and then recharges it ... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 22 10:36:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20245; Sat, 22 Jul 95 10:36:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12969; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 10:18:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 10:18:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12958; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 10:18:26 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA12120 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for < TP750@CS.UTK.EDU>); Sat, 22 Jul 1995 22:14:20 +0800 Message-Id: <199507221414.AA12120@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 95 19:53:58 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: jokim@mit.edu Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: TP755CE - charging/discharging battery? On Sat, 22 Jul 1995 00:50:44 EST you wrote: >You can get the latest utility disk image from ftp.pcco.ibm.com in >/pub/mobiles. You'll also need a copy of loaddskf.exe or somesuch >named program. > I used the latest namely version 2.0 >I've never had the problem you describe. I just popped in the >utility diskette, typed a:, then typed installl2 and it installed >everything (including the Power configuration stuff) just fine. >The battery status icon should be titled "fuel" not "power." > I will try again, the only thing I didnt do is to have the battery inside, normally I never use it. Thanks for your comment. Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 22 10:59:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21321; Sat, 22 Jul 95 10:59:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14570; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 10:45:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 10:45:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14557; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 10:45:55 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id HAA02293; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 07:45:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199507221445.HAA02293@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 95 07:48:04 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: TP755CE - charging/discharging battery? On Fri, 21 Jul 1995 14:00:35 -0500 you wrote: >> >Use the ThinkPad features option labeled 'Power' and click on the 'U-turn' >like symbol. This turns off the charging circuit. If you >don't have OS/2 or Windows, try running 'Power' from a command line (I think >that is the correct command, I know it's POWEROS2 with OS/2 installed). Are you sure about that? I thought the u-turn symbol discharged the battery to rejuvenate it. A different thing from simply disconnecting the battery from the charge circuit. Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 23 14:49:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12481; Sun, 23 Jul 95 14:49:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20830; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 14:29:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 14:29:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20819; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 14:29:48 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA07223 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 11:29:41 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA25443 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 11:29:39 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507231829.LAA25443@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 11:29:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199507212316.TAA23010@CS.UTK.EDU> from "romance@in.the.former.USSR.ua" at Jul 21, 95 05:13:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Not to long ago, I posted a message re: meeting women of the former > soviet union through romance ads. > > In August, Olga will travel to Moscow from her home in Kiev, Ukraine. > In Moscow, Olga will have a much easier and cost efficient means to place > your personal romance ad throughout Russia. Would someone on the list with greater computer know-how than I *please* track down this S.O.B. so that I and others can have the pleasure of flaming the *snot* out of him and perhaps even overloading his mailbox? > To: probable flamer > Subject: polite note > > Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net-etiquette," > she believes that offering lonely singles the possibility of romance exceeds > the cost of angering those who feel the net shouldn't be used in this fashion. > IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site. This is *precisely* what I'd like to see done... ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 23 15:05:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13558; Sun, 23 Jul 95 15:05:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21948; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 14:57:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 14:57:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21935; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 14:57:03 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA36541; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 14:52:18 -0400 Message-Id: <9507231852.AA36541@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: SVGA TP755CX; how does it do 320x240? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 14:52:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I've been wondering about the new 800x600 screens on the highend 755CX's. What does it do for other graphics modes, like 320x240? Does it pixel-double to 640x480 display pixels and center that smaller image? What does it do for things like regular VGA graphics, such as the default Warp desktop at 640x480? Thanks. (I tried to check the mailing list archive at swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu, but it only has messages through early February '95) -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 23 15:47:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15081; Sun, 23 Jul 95 15:47:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24671; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 15:39:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 15:39:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24659; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 15:39:52 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA07073; Sun, 23 Jul 95 15:40:50 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 95 15:40:50 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507231940.AA07073@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: lrj@hepth.cornell.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: SVGA TP755CX; how does it do 320x240? the regular Warp desktop at 640 x 480 looks small -- what other possible answer could there be? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 23 17:28:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21287; Sun, 23 Jul 95 17:28:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00993; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 17:18:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 17:18:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00983; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 17:18:00 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id RAA15873; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 17:17:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199507232117.RAA15873@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP), moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 23 Jul 1995 11:29:38 PDT." <199507231829.LAA25443@aludra.usc.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 17:17:52 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > Would someone on the list with greater computer know-how than > I *please* track down this S.O.B. so that I and others can have the > pleasure of flaming the *snot* out of him and perhaps even overloading > his mailbox? Sorry. The poster knew what he/she was doing, and very carefully forged a post via a machine that doesn't log incoming addresses. The message says that it came from physics1.byu.edu, but I don't believe it, because there would be no reason for physics1.byu.edu to route the message through UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU. I'm considering various ways of preventing such things. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 23 21:16:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00778; Sun, 23 Jul 95 21:16:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13385; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 21:06:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 21:06:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13366; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 21:06:35 -0400 Received: from champion.tcs.co.jp by champion.tcs.co.jp (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA07883 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:08:06 +0900 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:08:06 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199507240108.KAA07883@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Hello, I've got a 755C. I want to be able to use a few 32-bit windows applications, but everytime I try and execute one, I get a "DOS error 21" message in a window. Does anyone know what causes this? I suspect it may be due to some special files that came with the Thinkpad OS, as shipped.... Due to an unfortunate series of events, I was forced to purchase a store-copy of Windows-31 about 6-months back. I suspect that It is "not-quite" fully compatible with the Thinkpad, as I have noticed strange messages related to the APM stuff when I try and use it. Any ideas or help would be most appreciated. Is anyone else out there running 32-bit windows successfully? Can you use mosaic and/or netscape? Thanks for the help. -Lee lee@tcs.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 23 21:54:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06165; Sun, 23 Jul 95 21:54:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15997; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 21:46:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 21:46:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15958; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 21:45:51 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA22684 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:43:22 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199507240143.JAA22684@baijuyi> Subject: Toshiba HD upgrade To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:43:22 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text Just recently.. ` ROAD WARRIOR NEWS Vol.1, Issue 5, JULY 1995 - Hard disk drive upgrade ` IBM: ` 750/755/360 Series ThinkPads: Standard IDE 2.5" slim-line drive works; needs ` drive caddie. Just replace the drive in the drive caddie; may require ` software drivers. Anyone did the HD upgrade with a 12mm Toshiba HD? Share the experience. Prices looks good for a 815Mb HD at $674, DIY installation w/o BIOS upgrade and $779 w/ BIOS upgrade. (http://warrior.com/arinq1.html) __________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 09:20:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08850; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:20:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03587; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:08:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:08:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03572; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:08:08 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA4532; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:09:20 -0400 Message-Id: <9507241309.AA4532@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 6637E04FDC5F2C9F8525620300475B7F; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:09:17 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 24 Jul 95 9:02:30 Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....Would someone on the list with greater computer know-how than I *please* track down this S.O.B. so that I and others can have the pleasure of flaming the *snot* out of him and perhaps even overloading his mailbox?....." ~~~~~~~~~~ Yes, please share with us any effective methods of locking up this joker's mailbox. I send him/her a 1500 page text file this morning, but it may get bounced. If not, I'll be sending it every time I open my mail today, but if there's a better way, I'd love to know about it. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 09:28:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09014; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:28:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04804; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:20:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:20:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04785; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:20:45 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA4550; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:21:57 -0400 Message-Id: <9507241321.AA4550@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 5C2DAE980DCAB15F852562030047B575; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:21:55 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 24 Jul 95 9:06:19 Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....Sorry. The poster knew what he/she was doing, and very carefully forged a post via a machine that doesn't log incoming addresses. The message says that it came from physics1.byu.edu, but I don't believe it, because there would be no reason for physics1.byu.edu to route the message through UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU......" ~~~~~~~~~~ My email shows a return address of romance@in.the.former.ussr.ua I didn't see anything about BYU. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 10:19:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11799; Mon, 24 Jul 95 10:19:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08079; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:01:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:01:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nadia.ircam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08066; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:01:46 -0400 Received: from wayne.ircam.fr by nadia.ircam.fr, Mon, 24 Jul 1995 16:01:00 +0200 Received: by wayne.ircam.fr, Mon, 24 Jul 1995 16:00:54 +0200 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 16:00:54 +0200 From: Jonathan Marshall Message-Id: <199507241400.AA10645@wayne.ircam.fr> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.95) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.95) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) To all on the thinkpad list, In response to all the flames against our dear friend Olga from Russia please find enclosed a simple mail-bomb program for any unix system. begin 664 olgadie.uue M96-H;R B5VAO(&1O('EO=2!W86YT('1O(&)O;6(_(@IR96%D(&5M86EL"F5C M:&\@(D5N=&5R('1H92!S=6)J96-T(&]F('1H92!M86EL(&UE6]U('=A;G0@=&\@W!R:6YT("0P*S%])RD*9&]N90IU end Let's hope that this does the trick!! Jonathan From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 11:47:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16741; Mon, 24 Jul 95 11:47:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15031; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:19:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:19:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15021; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:19:40 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id LAA14441; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:23:36 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:23:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Toshiba HD upgrade In-Reply-To: <199507240143.JAA22684@baijuyi> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, Kevin Cheong wrote: > Just recently.. > > ` ROAD WARRIOR NEWS Vol.1, Issue 5, JULY 1995 - Hard disk drive upgrade > ` IBM: > ` 750/755/360 Series ThinkPads: Standard IDE 2.5" slim-line drive works; needs > ` drive caddie. Just replace the drive in the drive caddie; may require > ` software drivers. > > Anyone did the HD upgrade with a 12mm Toshiba HD? Share the experience. > Prices looks good for a 815Mb HD at $674, DIY installation w/o BIOS upgrade > and $779 w/ BIOS upgrade. (http://warrior.com/arinq1.html) If RW is charging for a "BIOS upgrade" on the Thinkpad, they need to be shot. I don't think that anyone already paying for a drive (meaning they are already getting profit) should pay more then $0.20 for someone to put a disk in a machine and hit a button. See the TP FAQ about upgrading the BIOS with the system disk (available off ftp.pcco.ibm.com) Trust me, swapping drives in the case is _not_ very hard - certainly not worth $100. _I_ will do it for anyone on the list for $10 and you pay shipping, if you don't feel confident enough to do it yourself. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 12:19:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19180; Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:19:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19242; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:03:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:03:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from micros.micros.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19207; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:03:46 -0400 Received: from smtplink.micros.com by micros.micros.com id ab11522; 24 Jul 95 12:03 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtplink.micros.com id AA806612649; Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:00:20 EST Date: Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:00:20 EST From: "Gerber, Josh" Message-Id: <9506248066.AA806612649@smtplink.micros.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re[2]: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) I can't decide which is more annoying...the original post (which took only one delete keystroke), or the flood of followups (which took many more). Just leave it alone; the only way to get to this person is if someone is able to trace the message to the real address and contact the sysadmin/postmaster to have the account shut down. Bitching and bombing (to non-existent addresses) is pointless. -j From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 12:38:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20804; Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:38:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21250; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:25:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:25:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21234; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:25:17 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA25911; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:25:02 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id LAA55237; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:25:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:25:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Jonathan Marshall Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) In-Reply-To: <199507241400.AA10645@wayne.ircam.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, Jonathan Marshall wrote: > To all on the thinkpad list, > > In response to all the flames against our dear friend Olga from Russia please > find enclosed a simple mail-bomb program for any unix system. cool... now all we need is an e-mail address. :-) Normally, I would not be happy about mail-bombing anybody, but this seems warrented. Does anybody have one of the first 'Olga' messages? It might not be so cleverly sent. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 13:12:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23275; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:12:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23591; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:01:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:01:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23580; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:01:28 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04998; Mon, 24 Jul 95 10:00:34 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id JAA24749; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:59:57 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9507240959.ZM24747@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:59:56 -0700 In-Reply-To: Keith Moore "Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified)" (Jul 23, 5:17pm) References: <199507232117.RAA15873@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 23, 5:17pm, Keith Moore wrote: > Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) > > Would someone on the list with greater computer know-how than > > I *please* track down this S.O.B. so that I and others can have the > > pleasure of flaming the *snot* out of him and perhaps even overloading > > his mailbox? > > Sorry. The poster knew what he/she was doing, and very carefully > forged a post via a machine that doesn't log incoming addresses. > The message says that it came from physics1.byu.edu, but I don't > believe it, because there would be no reason for physics1.byu.edu > to route the message through UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU. > > I'm considering various ways of preventing such things. I don't know how many other mailing lists people here belong to, but "Olga" posted that message to virtually *every* known mailing list, including several restricted IEEE standards body mailing lists I'm on! Robert From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 13:19:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23383; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:19:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23900; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:07:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:07:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23887; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:07:08 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05229; Mon, 24 Jul 95 10:06:22 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id KAA24762; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:05:46 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9507241005.ZM24760@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:05:45 -0700 In-Reply-To: Michael Verne/VENTANA "Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified)" (Jul 24, 9:06am) References: <9507241321.AA4550@LGATE.vmedia.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 24, 9:06am, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: > Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) > ".....Sorry. The poster knew what he/she was doing, and very carefully > forged a post via a machine that doesn't log incoming addresses. > The message says that it came from physics1.byu.edu, but I don't > believe it, because there would be no reason for physics1.byu.edu > to route the message through UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU......" > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > My email shows a return address of romance@in.the.former.ussr.ua That's obviously a FakeMail address. Don't even bother... Robert From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 13:26:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24273; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:26:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24286; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:12:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:12:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24276; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:12:46 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA4938; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:13:58 -0400 Message-Id: <9507241713.AA4938@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 3E0E6AA9FC07039C85256203005CB669; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:13:37 To: lee , tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 24 Jul 95 13:02:28 Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....I've got a 755C. I want to be able to use a few 32-bit windows applications, but everytime I try and execute one, I get a "DOS error 21" message in a window. Does anyone know what causes this?...." ~~~~~~~~~~ I don't know how this relates specifically to thinkpads, but I've seen this error on several of our machines, including the thinkpads, when first installing 32-bit apps. What I've done is turn on 32-Bit File Access in Control Panel, 386Enh, and set the smartdrv.exe windows parameter to 512 (if there's no parameter set, I think it defaults to 128) in the autoexec.bat: C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE 1024 512 The first number is the DOS buffer size & the second is the Windows buffer. Without this parameter, or with it set to a lower number, I've seen "Unexpected Dos Error", "DOS Error 21", and "EMM386 has detected....... reboot your machine" errors. Hope this helps. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 13:29:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24468; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:29:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24561; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:16:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:16:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24550; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:15:59 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.43] (mac43.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA20974; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:15:42 EDT Message-Id: <9507241715.AA20974@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:27:28 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Olga die die die I heartily agree that there is no point in wasting time bitching if we don't have a way of singling out the responsible person. If some smart person can get this guy's address, great. If not, we just have to live with it...unless... I don't know if this is possible, but if it is somebody on this list will know how. It seems like it should be possible to filter out all submissions to the tp list from people who are not already on the tp list. This would cut out Olga, and also eliminate the occasional misplaced subscription request message (unfortunately, it would not affect the unsubscribe messages). Can this be done without placing undue hardship on the list maintainer? ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 15:02:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29753; Mon, 24 Jul 95 15:02:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01818; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:42:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:42:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01807; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:42:27 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA27550; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:42:19 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA27613; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:42:17 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507241842.LAA27613@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Toshiba HD upgrade To: dwhite@shadow.net (Don Whiteside) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Don Whiteside" at Jul 24, 95 11:23:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Trust me, swapping drives in the case is _not_ very hard - certainly not > worth $100. _I_ will do it for anyone on the list for $10 and you pay > shipping, if you don't feel confident enough to do it yourself. What I'm curious about Don, is if one can get away without using *any* hard drive enclosure at all? I'd like to stick OS/2 or somesuch on my existing 340 MB hard drive and then be able to swap hard drives--but presumably I'll need to plastic casings/caddies for that. Don't suppose anyone has one handy? ;) ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 15:59:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05224; Mon, 24 Jul 95 15:59:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08380; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 15:44:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 15:44:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08370; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 15:44:24 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA06705; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:44:22 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id OAA18382; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:44:21 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:44:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Victor Kress Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Olga die die die In-Reply-To: <9507241715.AA20974@gl.ciw.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, Victor Kress wrote: > I heartily agree that there is no point in wasting time bitching if we > don't have a way of singling out the responsible person. If some smart > person can get this guy's address, great. If not, we just have to live > with it...unless... > I don't know if this is possible, but if it is somebody on this list will > know how. It seems like it should be possible to filter out all > submissions to the tp list from people who are not already on the tp list. > This would cut out Olga, and also eliminate the occasional misplaced > subscription request message (unfortunately, it would not affect the > unsubscribe messages). Can this be done without placing undue hardship on > the list maintainer? Can procmail be used to do this w/o compromising the performance of the list too badly? Or is procmail the right tool for the job? Or maybe the answer is to modify the program running the list. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 16:23:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07434; Mon, 24 Jul 95 16:23:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10333; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 16:09:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 16:09:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from imag.imag.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10319; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 16:09:38 -0400 Received: from safran-28 (safran.imag.fr [129.88.29.1]) by imag.imag.fr (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA05908; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:09:21 +0200 Received: (elf@localhost) by safran-28 (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.4) id WAA25990; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:09:21 +0200 Message-Id: <199507242009.WAA25990@safran-28> From: Eugene.Fiume@imag.fr (Eugene Fiume) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:09:20 -0600 In-Reply-To: Victor Kress's message as of Jul 24, 7:36pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Olga die die die I dunno. It once again seems so easy to use the "d" key, but if you are really interested in tracing the culprit, a sysadmin at cs.utk.edu can go through the smtp log (assuming it's a unix box) and try to find the node from which this mail message was sent. It's possible to forge this too, but it's a little less easy to do than to simply forge the "From" field (which is truly novice hacker stuff). Catching a less boring forger would require a realtime trace for which few people have the patience. The beauty of unix is its simplicity. Using the simplest of tools, it's very easy to connect to a host and send a message under an assumed name. If someone one has mastered this, then a sysadmin would have to be in the right place at the right time to catch the culprit. Long mail messages or overly frequent use would expose such a person, so don't expect such messages to happen very often. So...use the "d" key. Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 17:13:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10377; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:13:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14564; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:00:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:00:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14532; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:00:37 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA5157; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:01:49 -0400 Message-Id: <9507242101.AA5157@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id AF09A4012889CF1A8525620300724DA2; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:01:46 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 24 Jul 95 16:52:38 Subject: CLAs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain I'm about to purchase a couple of cigarette lighter adapters for the 360 and a 360C. IBM PN 49G2167. IBM also recommended LIN Electronics PN APA2691. Before I shoot myself in the foot, does anyone have any experience with these? any "undocumented features" I should know about? thanks in advance, Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 17:39:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11439; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:39:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17865; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:28:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:28:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17842; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:28:07 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16599; Mon, 24 Jul 95 14:27:12 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) id OAA24932; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:27:14 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9507241427.ZM24930@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:27:13 -0700 In-Reply-To: Eugene.Fiume@imag.fr (Eugene Fiume) "Re: Olga die die die" (Jul 24, 10:09pm) References: <199507242009.WAA25990@safran-28> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Eugene.Fiume@imag.fr (Eugene Fiume), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Olga die die die Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 24, 10:09pm, Eugene Fiume wrote: > Subject: Re: Olga die die die > I dunno. It once again seems so easy to use the "d" key, but if you > are really interested in tracing the culprit, a sysadmin at cs.utk.edu > can go through the smtp log (assuming it's a unix box) and try to find > the node from which this mail message was sent. It's possible to forge > this too, but it's a little less easy to do than to simply forge the > "From" field (which is truly novice hacker stuff). I don't know if I'd call this "less easy". There are several widely distributed c-shell scripts which will do this for you, like FakeMail and BlackMail. > The beauty of unix is its simplicity. Using the simplest of tools, > it's very easy to connect to a host and send a message under an assumed > name. This is why you won't be able to trace the message by going through cs.utk.edu's sendmail logs. Set your ThinkPad's hostname to some bogus name, then telnet cs.utk.edu 25 (25 is the socket number for the sendmail daemon) ...and you can tell the utk senmail daemon you're anyone you want to be. At this point, since they've posted to virtually every mailing list in the universe, I'm sure there are a lot of people tracking this idiot down. I would guess that the problem will solve itself. Robert From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 18:01:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14124; Mon, 24 Jul 95 18:01:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19763; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:52:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:52:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from granite.sentex.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19753; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:51:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (hornett@localhost) by granite.sentex.net (8.6.5/8.6.9) id SAA20658; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 18:09:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199507242209.SAA20658@granite.sentex.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: David R Hornett Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:53:11 EST Reply-To: David R Hornett Subject: Aftermarket Batt in tp750c Does anyone know if the 750c has support for aftermarket 'dumb' batteries Just bought one and cant seem to get it to charge...the battery status light just flashes between amber and green (rapidly) Any ideas???? David R Hornett Thinkpad 750c 12 meg ram 340 hd Dock II with 4x cd rom 14.4 data fax mghrtz hornett@sentex.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 19:02:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17266; Mon, 24 Jul 95 19:02:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24529; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 18:52:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 18:52:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24520; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 18:52:12 -0400 Received: from localhost by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id SAA17912; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 18:52:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199507242252.SAA17912@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: Mike Schaeffer Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Olga die die die In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:44:21 CDT." Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 18:52:04 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > Can procmail be used to do this w/o compromising the performance > of the list too badly? Or is procmail the right tool for the job? Or > maybe the answer is to modify the program running the list. I've already said that I'm looking into possible solutions. Procmail/SmartList is one of them. However, I had hoped to avoid burdening the list with discussion of such topics. In the future, I suggest that correspondence about how the list is run be sent to tp750-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu...that is, unless you think it's really something that the whole list wants to know about. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 21:24:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26316; Mon, 24 Jul 95 21:24:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02922; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02912; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:13 -0400 Received: from champion.tcs.co.jp by champion.tcs.co.jp (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA11384; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:13:41 +0900 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:13:41 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199507250113.KAA11384@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, lee@champion.tcs.co.jp, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs >What I've done is turn on 32-Bit File Access in >Control Panel, 386Enh, and set the smartdrv.exe windows parameter to 512 Hmm... I don't seem to have a 32-Bit File Access toggle in my control panel. Is there something special you have to do to get this to appear? Or perhaps you have a modified control panel program? I've set the smartdrv parameters... but by themselves, the DOS error 21 still persists. I'm still wondering if an "out of the box" windows 3.1 is the same as what was origonally installed on my thinkpad. Thanks for the help. -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 21:56:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27179; Mon, 24 Jul 95 21:56:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05086; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:44:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:44:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05051; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:44:09 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA27272; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:40:41 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199507250140.JAA27272@baijuyi> Subject: Re: Toshiba HD upgrade To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randal Whittle) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:40:41 +0800 (WAUST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199507241842.LAA27613@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Jul 24, 95 11:42:09 am Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text ``..Randal Whittle writes, ` Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:42:09 -0700 (PDT) ` ` > Trust me, swapping drives in the case is _not_ very hard - certainly not ` > worth $100. _I_ will do it for anyone on the list for $10 and you pay ` > shipping, if you don't feel confident enough to do it yourself. ` ` What I'm curious about Don, is if one can get away without using ` *any* hard drive enclosure at all? ` ` I'd like to stick OS/2 or somesuch on my existing 340 MB hard ` drive and then be able to swap hard drives--but presumably I'll need ` to plastic casings/caddies for that. Don't suppose anyone has one ` handy? ;) Didn't RW say they'd provide a caddy? __________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 03:04:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14637; Tue, 25 Jul 95 03:04:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23940; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 02:50:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 02:50:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23919; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 02:50:11 -0400 From: Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA28815; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 01:50:07 -0500 Message-Id: <9507250650.AA28815@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 02:51:31 EST Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Subject: Sound under Win-OS/2 Was there some sort of special procedure to get multimedia sound working under Win-OS/2 on a TP750 (the one with the Crystal Semi sound chipset)? I could've sworn I'd gotten it working before, but I've reinstalled Win-OS/2 and MMOS/2 several times without any luck. The Win-OS/2 system sounds are greyed out, and every time I try to start a multimedia app, it complains that there are no drivers installed. I go to install drivers in the control panel and there are no crystal semi drivers. This is a late gamma of Warp with Win-OS/2, the one that came with DevCon. If someone else knows what's up, great. Or if you have the release version of Warp with Win-OS/2 and don't have any problems, tell me and I'll see if I can get an updated version. ____________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@uni.uiuc.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 10:04:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06412; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:04:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25458; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:47:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:47:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25446; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:47:53 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA5567; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:49:04 -0400 Message-Id: <9507251349.AA5567@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id DBEC5E87F0786AE9852562040049750F; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:49:01 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 25 Jul 95 9:30:41 Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....Hmm... I don't seem to have a 32-Bit File Access toggle in my control panel. Is there something special you have to do to get this to appear? Or perhaps you have a modified control panel program? I've set the smartdrv parameters... but by themselves, the DOS error 21 still persists. I'm still wondering if an "out of the box" windows 3.1 is the same as what was origonally installed on my thinkpad......" ~~~~~~~~~~ 32-Bit file access may only be in 3.11. We have the WFWG 3.11 upgrade on all our thinkpads (around $40). That may be the difference. I don't think Win32s would add this to the Control Panel and I assume you've already installed this, so I'd go with the upgrade. The WFWG upgrade is one of the first things I do with incoming thinkpads, so I haven't really looked at Win 3.1 much. The WFWG license also includes WinTCP, which is the easiest TCP/IP stack I've ever configured, so if you can make use of that, it's worth the price. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 10:04:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06417; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:04:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25433; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:47:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:47:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Phoenix.ERC.MsState.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25423; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:47:41 -0400 Received: from muffin.ERC.MsState.Edu (dbridges@Muffin.ERC.MsState.Edu [192.208.137.6]); by Phoenix.ERC.MsState.Edu using ESMTP (8.6.8.1/7.0m-FWP-MsState); id IAA10494; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 08:48:09 -0500 From: Douglas Bridges Received: by muffin.ERC.MsState.Edu (8.6.8.1/6.0c-FWP); id IAA00501; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 08:48:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 08:48:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199507251348.IAA00501@muffin.ERC.MsState.Edu> To: lee@champion.tcs.co.jp Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ----- Begin Included Message ----- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 20:26:06 1995 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:17 EDT Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:13:41 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, lee@champion.tcs.co.jp, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Content-Length: 554 >What I've done is turn on 32-Bit File Access in >Control Panel, 386Enh, and set the smartdrv.exe windows parameter to 512 Hmm... I don't seem to have a 32-Bit File Access toggle in my control panel. Is there something special you have to do to get this to appear? Or perhaps you have a modified control panel program? I've set the smartdrv parameters... but by themselves, the DOS error 21 still persists. I'm still wondering if an "out of the box" windows 3.1 is the same as what was origonally installed on my thinkpad. Thanks for the help. -Lee ----- End Included Message ----- Out of the box Windows 3.1 is the same that comes with the Thinkpads. IBM supplies vanilla MSWindows on their machines. Windows 3.1 does not come with 32-File access. That is only supplied in Windows for Workgroups ver. 3.11. You might want to try updating your Win32 to whatever the latest version is on the Microsoft BBS. You can get them by ftp from fto.microsoft.com. I hope this helps. Douglas Bridges dbridges@erc.msstate.edu http://www.erc.msstate.edu/~dbridges/ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 10:35:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08483; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:35:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28474; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:21:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:21:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from doblegate.doble.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28452; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:21:35 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 014fd160; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:17:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:17:29 -0400 Message-Id: <014fd160@doblegate.doble.com> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, lee@champion.tcs.co.jp, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, Lee Hounshell Subject: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.806681878" This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the rest, you will have to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.806681878 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Hello, 32-bit file access was in the Version 3.11 "upgrade". You may have gotten the original Version 3.1. You can get the upgrade by ftping to ftp.microsoft.com. You also need to peruse the WDL (Windows Driver Library) for upgraded drivers as the upgrade file only upgrades the main windows exes. 73 Eric WB1HBU ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Author: Lee Hounshell at Doble-Internet Date: 7/25/95 10:13 AM >What I've done is turn on 32-Bit File Access in >Control Panel, 386Enh, and set the smartdrv.exe windows parameter to 512 Hmm... I don't seem to have a 32-Bit File Access toggle in my control panel. Is there something special you have to do to get this to appear? Or perhaps you have a modified control panel program? I've set the smartdrv parameters... but by themselves, the DOS error 21 still persists. I'm still wondering if an "out of the box" windows 3.1 is the same as what was origonally installed on my thinkpad. Thanks for the help. -Lee --IMA.Boundary.806681878 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Received: from [128.169.94.1] by doblegate.doble.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 01448370; Mon, 24 Jul 95 21:26:16 -0400 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02922; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:17 EDT Errors-to: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02912; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:13 -0400 Received: from champion.tcs.co.jp by champion.tcs.co.jp (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP i d KAA11384; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:13:41 +0900 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:13:41 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199507250113.KAA11384@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, lee@champion.tcs.co.jp, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs --IMA.Boundary.806681878-- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 10:35:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08488; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:35:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28280; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:20:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:20:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28269; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:20:45 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA23613 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:20:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:20:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199507251420.JAA23613@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs At 10:13 AM 7/25/95 +0900, you wrote: >I've set the smartdrv parameters... but by themselves, the DOS error 21 still >persists. I'm still wondering if an "out of the box" windows 3.1 is the same >as what was origonally installed on my thinkpad. > Yes, I think it is. In the past I have installed the "out of the box" windows 3.1 from scratch onto a thinkpad 750C with success. the only "tricky" part that I remember was that you had to say at some part in the install to utilize "DOS with APM" as opposed to just "DOS". then, of course, had to install all the thinkpad drivers/utilities (way back when, thinkpads only had PC-DOS preinstalled!) --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 10:39:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08629; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:39:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29192; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:30:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:30:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rouge.phys.lsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29175; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:30:45 -0400 Received: by rouge.phys.lsu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17804; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:20:22 CDT From: sabo@rouge.phys.lsu.edu (Kristin C. Sabo (esq.)) Message-Id: <9507251420.AA17804@rouge.phys.lsu.edu> Subject: Re: Letter from Olga To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ani-l@utkvm1.utk.edu, MEDITATION@beach.utmb.edu Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:20:22 -0500 (CDT) Cc: RESIDENTS@beach.utmb.edu Content-Type: text > Not to long ago, I posted a message re: meeting women of the former > soviet union through romance ads. Yes, this SPAM has gone on long enough. Anyone finally able to track the jerk responsible for same down, please let us know. Plllleeeeezzzeee? But there is humor to be found in all this. I thought you'd enjoy the following from WILDWEST, The Wild Wild West e-mail group: Message 7/21 From Deborah Rich Jul 24, 95 09:00:22 am -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:00:22 -0400 (EDT) To: wildwest@moose.uvm.edu Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) A Letter from President Grant: Gentlemen, I have reason to suspect our country is in considerable danger. I have been informed that a Russian spy has infiltrated the U.S. Government. Please gentlemen, return at once to Washington and assist us in her capture. Her name is Olga and here is a clip of an interrupted message she was sending to Moscow: > "I have already sent your ad to the papers in such towns: Moscow, >St. Petersburg, Vladimir, Kazan. At nearest future I will send your ad to the >paper in some more 12 towns of Russia, where papers are published. We are not sure of the contents of the ad she mentions, gentlemen. But I fear the worst. Jim, Artie- I am counting on you to find this woman and stop this activity. Beware, I understand she is considerably beautiful and somewhat amorous. Don't be fooled! She is a most clever woman and will use you to obtain her goals. Thank You and Godspeed. President Grant -- M, BATR Kris -> Just another public service announcement from your Cruise Director <- ==>> NEW FOLKS: Get the WILDWEST FAQ for answers to all those burning questions. Requests to: sabo@rouge.phys.lsu.edu ............................... Kristin C. Sabo - sabo@rouge.phys.lsu.edu "Good thing you're sacred, _Moderator & Cruise Director_ because you've got no talent." WILDWEST ~~~~~~~~ -Artemus, TNot Gypsy Peril The Wild Wild West e-mail group: listproc@moose.uvm.edu wildwest@moose.uvm.edu THE WILD WILD WEST ....................................... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 10:58:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09398; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:58:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00950; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:48:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:48:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tin by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00938; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:48:18 -0400 Received: from WOODS.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by tin (5.65/Monsanto1.7) id AA10578; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:36:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:36:00 -0500 Message-Id: <9507251436.AA10578@tin> From: lrbris@elm.monsanto.com (Lou Briscoe V1K 4-8126) To: "tp750@cs.utk.edu"@tin Cc: LRBRIS@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Introduction for Lou Briscoe Hello, I'm Lou Briscoe, a VAX systems manager for Monsanto Company in St. Louis, Missouri, USA. I have a ThinkPad 755CD (model 9545-9BD) with the Intel 486 DX-100MHz processor, 5.25" CD ROM Drive, 540MB Hard disk, and 24MB memory. I'm currently running Windows 3.1. I'm using the Dock II here at work, and hope to have it set up to run an X-windows ap via SLIP on my phone line at home to get to my VAX motif applications here at work. I'm a PC novice, so getting all these 755CD features to actually work is proving to be a real challenge for me. Lou lrbris@maple.monsanto.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 11:20:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10258; Tue, 25 Jul 95 11:20:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03317; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:11:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:10:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03306; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:10:57 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA24660; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:06:05 -0400 Message-Id: <9507251506.AA24660@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: WarpConnect + PortReplicator I + PCMCIA ethernet; hot docking? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:06:04 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lrj@hepth.cornell.edu (Lew Jansen) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I don't remember if I asked this here already; sorry if it's a repeat: I'm about to order an SVGA 755CX and will be putting it on my home ethernet. I'd like to use a Port Replicator I with a PCMCIA ethernet card, and be able to "hot dock" it; connect and disconnect the machine from the ethernet without having to reboot Warp Connect. I talked with 3Com tech support and they stated that they'd tried this and their 3C589B card is not hot-swappable under Warp Connect. 'Tis a shame, as the promotional pricing is very tempting. I then spoke with IBM tech support and learned that IBM says that you have to physically turn the 755 off when docking/undocking the Port Replicator; making the question of hot-swapping the ethernet card a moot point. While I understand that you don't really want to connect/disconnect the expansion bus while the machine is running, it seems odd that you can't do this in a suspended state. My questions to the list are: Do you *really* have to turn off the 755, or are you likely to be safe just suspending or hibernating (suspend-to-disk) the machine? If you can just suspend the 755CX, can anyone suggest a 10base2 ethernet card that I can leave in the Port Replicator I and not have to reboot Warp Connect when docking/undocking? The IBM tech support guy said that this would work with the Dock II, but unfortunately it just doesn't fit my needs; I'd have to buy an add'l keyboard and probably a monitor to use the 755CX effectively. Thanks; I'll summarize directly-emailed replies to the list in a few days. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 11:31:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11009; Tue, 25 Jul 95 11:31:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04474; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:22:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:22:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04442; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:22:11 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 0150b250; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:17:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:14:51 -0500 Message-Id: <0150b250@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com> Subject: Re: Sound under Win-OS/2 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, jokim@mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part This is taken from the Warp Information file (Multimedia): To add Windows** support for the Crystal Semiconductor** audio devices on the ThinkPad* 750 or 755, you need to: 1. Edit the SYSTEM.INI file, which is located in the directory you load Windows from, usually the \WINDOWS directory. 2. Copy the Crystal Semiconductor CS4231 drivers from the \OS2 directory to the appropriate Windows directories. First, edit the SYSTEM.INI file: 1. Add the following lines under the heading [drivers]. Wave=CS31BA11.DRV Aux=CS31BA11.DRV Mixer=CS31BA11.DRV 2. Add the following line under the heading [386enh]. Device=vsndsys.386 3. Add the contents of the TP750INI.ADD file to the end of the SYSTEM.INI file. You can use your editor to perform this operation, or you can use the COPY command. To use the COPY command, enter the following at the command prompt: COPY d:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI+o:\OS2\DRIVERS\CS4231\TP750INI.ADD where o: is the drive that OS/2 is installed on and d: is the drive that Windows is installed on. Second, copy the Crystal Semiconductor CS4231 drivers from the \OS2 directory to the Windows directories: 1. Copy the file CS31BA11.INI from \OS2\DRIVERS\CS4231 to your \WINDOWS directory. 2. Copy the file CS31BA11.DRV from \OS2\DRIVERS\CS4231 to your \WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory. 3. Copy the file VSNDSYS.386 from \OS2\DRIVERS\CS4231 to your \WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory. ...Mike Eddy... Baxter Healthcare Corporation ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Sound under Win-OS/2 Author: jokim@mit.edu at Internet Date: 7/25/95 2:51 AM Was there some sort of special procedure to get multimedia sound working under Win-OS/2 on a TP750 (the one with the Crystal Semi sound chipset)? I could've sworn I'd gotten it working before, but I've reinstalled Win-OS/2 and MMOS/2 several times without any luck. The Win-OS/2 system sounds are greyed out, and every time I try to start a multimedia app, it complains that there are no drivers installed. I go to install drivers in the control panel and there are no crystal semi drivers. This is a late gamma of Warp with Win-OS/2, the one that came with DevCon. If someone else knows what's up, great. Or if you have the release version of Warp with Win-OS/2 and don't have any problems, tell me and I'll see if I can get an updated version. ____________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@uni.uiuc.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 14:02:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21483; Tue, 25 Jul 95 14:02:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16947; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 13:50:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 13:50:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16930; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 13:50:35 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA05424; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:50:31 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA19835; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:50:26 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507251750.KAA19835@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Toshiba HD upgrade To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199507250140.JAA27272@baijuyi> from "Kevin Cheong" at Jul 25, 95 09:40:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ` What I'm curious about Don, is if one can get away without using > ` *any* hard drive enclosure at all? > ` > ` I'd like to stick OS/2 or somesuch on my existing 340 MB hard > ` drive and then be able to swap hard drives--but presumably I'll need > ` to plastic casings/caddies for that. Don't suppose anyone has one > ` handy? ;) > > Didn't RW say they'd provide a caddy? No, they say you have to take your existing disk out of the caddy and then suggest you by a new HD enclosure for them to use your old one as an external drive. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 15:07:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26212; Tue, 25 Jul 95 15:07:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21500; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:49:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:49:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from happy.qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21483; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:48:56 -0400 Received: from gjacobs (gjacobs.qualcomm.com [129.46.122.39]) by happy.qualcomm.com (8.6.12/QC-BSD-2.5) with SMTP id LAA01416 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:48:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199507251848.LAA01416@happy.qualcomm.com> X-Sender: gjacobs@wizard X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:48:23 -0700 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) From: "Gary E. Jacobs" Subject: TP755 Pentium Upgrade Kit I received the pentium upgrade kit, but it says it's for 755CD and I have a 755CE. Is the kit the same or do I need to return it? Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com (619)658-4069 voice (619)658-2120 fax From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 15:50:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28329; Tue, 25 Jul 95 15:50:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26073; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 15:38:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 15:38:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26061; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 15:37:59 -0400 Received: from ts1p6.ro.com (ts1p6.ro.com [204.181.74.26]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA11353; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:42:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:42:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199507251942.OAA11353@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: You will find 32-bit file access in Windows 3.1 by doing this: Click on main Click on control panel Click on 386 Enhanced Click on Virtual Memory Click on Change at the bottom of the window will be a check box for 32-bit access Be careful that windows doesn't change your size to something really large. Also, some computers will not work with 32-bit access if sleep or hibernation occurs at exactly the wrong time. This is not true with TPs. Don. > >Hmm... I don't seem to have a 32-Bit File Access toggle in my control panel. >Is there something special you have to do to get this to appear? >Or perhaps you have a modified control panel program? > >I've set the smartdrv parameters... but by themselves, the DOS error 21 still >persists. I'm still wondering if an "out of the box" windows 3.1 is the same >as what was origonally installed on my thinkpad. > >Thanks for the help. > >-Lee >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Description: cc:Mail note part > >Received: from [128.169.94.1] by doblegate.doble.com with SMTP > (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 01448370; Mon, 24 Jul 95 21:26:16 -0400 >Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) > id VAA02922; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:19 -0400 >X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:17 EDT >Errors-to: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >Received: from Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) > id VAA02912; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:13 -0400 >Received: from champion.tcs.co.jp by champion.tcs.co.jp (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP i >d KAA11384; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:13:41 +0900 >Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:13:41 +0900 >From: Lee Hounshell >Message-Id: <199507250113.KAA11384@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> >To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, lee@champion.tcs.co.jp, > tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 20:58:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26523; Tue, 25 Jul 95 20:58:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01617; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 20:44:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 20:44:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01607; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 20:44:06 -0400 Received: from MKE-PPP-01.inc.net by inc.net (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA07961; Tue, 25 Jul 95 19:46:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 19:46:09 -0500 Message-Id: <9507260046.AA07961@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@beta.inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: Request for 755 CX Comments Our company is about to purchase several 755CX's (SVGA/540 HD/8 Mb RAM) for use by salesmen in the field. Anyone out there have comments/warnings/suggestions for us? We will be running W3.11 as our sales reporting software is written for it (not brave enough to wait for a preloaded W95, let others be the final beta testers). I am, however, looking forward to using Warp for my own applications. Thanks for your help. Joe Wilson Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 21:24:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28150; Tue, 25 Jul 95 21:24:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04099; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:15:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:15:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Phoenix.ERC.MsState.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04082; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:15:54 -0400 Received: (dbridges@localhost); by Phoenix.ERC.MsState.Edu (8.6.8.1/7.0m-FWP-MsState); id UAA29229; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 20:16:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 20:16:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Douglas Bridges X-Sender: dbridges@phoenix To: "Gary E. Jacobs" Cc: TP Subject: Re: TP755 Pentium Upgrade Kit In-Reply-To: <199507251848.LAA01416@happy.qualcomm.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The Pentium upgrades for the 755CE and CD are different. __________________________________________________________________________ |Douglas Bridges | How to cook hawgs in Mississippi | |dbridges@ERC.msstate.edu | http://www.erc.msstate.edu/hawgs/hawgs.html | |__________________________|_____________________________________________| |"If you cooperate, we will reduce the charges from hit-and-run murder | | to littering." | |________________________________________________________________________| On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Gary E. Jacobs wrote: > I received the pentium upgrade kit, but it says it's for 755CD and I have a > 755CE. Is the kit the same or do I need to return it? > > Gary Jacobs > gjacobs@qualcomm.com > (619)658-4069 voice > (619)658-2120 fax > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 21:30:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28195; Tue, 25 Jul 95 21:30:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04440; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:21:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:21:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04424; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:21:09 -0400 Received: from champion.tcs.co.jp by champion.tcs.co.jp (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA00546; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:21:10 +0900 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:21:10 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199507260121.KAA00546@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> To: dramsey@ro.com, ecottrell@doble.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >You will find 32-bit file access in Windows 3.1 by doing this: > Click on main > Click on control panel > Click on 386 Enhanced > Click on Virtual Memory > Click on Change > at the bottom of the window will be a check box for 32-bit access Sorry, but that doesn't do it for me. I'm currently in the process of downloading the Win 3.11 update files from ftp.microsoft.com as suggested by Eric (ecottrell@doble.com) and others. I'll let everyone know if it works! Thanks for the help! -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 00:41:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11148; Wed, 26 Jul 95 00:41:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18193; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 00:30:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 00:30:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18171; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 00:30:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 00:22:39 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net Cc: TP Subject: Re: TP755 Pentium Upgrade Kit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wait, I thought it wasn't user-installable....? On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Douglas Bridges wrote: > The Pentium upgrades for the 755CE and CD are different. > > On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Gary E. Jacobs wrote: > > > I received the pentium upgrade kit, but it says it's for 755CD and I have a > > 755CE. Is the kit the same or do I need to return it? http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 01:41:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14606; Wed, 26 Jul 95 01:41:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21231; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:30:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:30:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21191; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:30:09 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0saz2d-000DzIC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 22:29 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: TP755 Pentium Upgrade Kit To: alster@interport.net (retsla) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 22:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "retsla" at Jul 26, 95 00:22:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > Wait, I thought it wasn't user-installable....? The upgrade is sold in two different versions: 1. You buy it, and send your TP to IBM. They will install the upgrade and will return the upgraded machine back to you. 2. You buy the upgrade, and it is shipped to you. Once you receive it, you'll call the EasyServe (IBM Service) and a technician will come and install it in your TP. I chose method 2... The cost was about $100 more. (It took the tech only about 2 hours. Also, as part of the upgrade package shipped from IBM, I got a great document on how to disassemble the darn thing!) -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 01:47:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14634; Wed, 26 Jul 95 01:47:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21622; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:39:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:39:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21612; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:39:03 -0400 Received: from violin-02.synapse.net (violin-02.synapse.net [199.84.52.236]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7.Beta.10/8.7.Beta.10) with SMTP id BAA23639 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199507260538.BAA23639@sentinel.synapse.net> X-Sender: phong@pop.synapse.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: phong@phsmc.synapse.net (Patrick Hong) Subject: Re: Request for 755 CX Comments >Our company is about to purchase several 755CX's (SVGA/540 HD/8 Mb RAM) for >use by salesmen in the field. Anyone out there have >comments/warnings/suggestions for us? We will be running W3.11 as our sales >reporting software is written for it (not brave enough to wait for a >preloaded W95, let others be the final beta testers). I am, however, >looking forward to using Warp for my own applications. > I just received my 755CX about three weeks ago and I have nothing but praise for it. This is my second Thinkpad (first one was a 720C) and thus far, I'm glad that I didn't get the 755CD model. While the CD would have been nice, the benefit of the CD didn't justify the extra baggage it would have imposed. While there are faster notebooks around, 800x600 screen is marvelous and the feature set is something others I believe are still trying to catch up with. Specifically, the MWave DSP chip, the Trackpoint III (others like the Toshiba don't have as nice a feel), the quality of construction and last but not least, the great keyboard. While these are just my opinions, I stand by them as I've been shopping around not only for myself but my clients as well. They finally settled on ten 755CE's and they're very happy with them. I'm sure they would have purchased the 755CX's but they weren't introduced as of yet. Apparently IBM will be introducing a new Thinkpad soon, a 120MHz pentium with an 11.3" SVGA dispay. ... patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 02:08:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15830; Wed, 26 Jul 95 02:08:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22731; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 02:00:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 02:00:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22649; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 02:00:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:51:11 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Request for 755 CX Comments In-Reply-To: <199507260538.BAA23639@sentinel.synapse.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Patrick Hong wrote: > >Our company is about to purchase several 755CX's (SVGA/540 HD/8 Mb RAM) for > >use by salesmen in the field. Anyone out there have > >comments/warnings/suggestions for us? We will be running W3.11 as our sales > >reporting software is written for it (not brave enough to wait for a > >preloaded W95, let others be the final beta testers). I am, however, > >looking forward to using Warp for my own applications. > > I just received my 755CX about three weeks ago and I have nothing but praise > for it. This is my second Thinkpad (first one was a 720C) and thus far, I'm > glad that I didn't get the 755CD model. While the CD would have been nice, > the benefit of the CD didn't justify the extra baggage it would have > imposed. While there are faster notebooks around, 800x600 screen is > marvelous and the feature set is something others I believe are still trying > to catch up with. Specifically, the MWave DSP chip, the Trackpoint III > (others like the Toshiba don't have as nice a feel), the quality of > construction and last but not least, the great keyboard. > > While these are just my opinions, I stand by them as I've been shopping > around not only for myself but my clients as well. They finally settled on > ten 755CE's and they're very happy with them. I'm sure they would have > purchased the 755CX's but they weren't introduced as of yet. > > Apparently IBM will be introducing a new Thinkpad soon, a 120MHz pentium > with an 11.3" SVGA dispay. ^^^^ 12.1!! http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 03:58:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21624; Wed, 26 Jul 95 03:58:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00941; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 03:49:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 03:49:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00931; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 03:49:27 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA07882 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Wed, 26 Jul 1995 03:49:23 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA34500; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 03:48:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 03:48:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: Mehdi Attaran Cc: retsla , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755 Pentium Upgrade Kit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Mehdi Attaran wrote: > > Wait, I thought it wasn't user-installable....? > That's what IBM tells people but if it is the similar to previous processor upgrades then installing it is really a cinch. I got the CPU upgrade for my old model 700 when the IBM PC Outlet was dumping them for $99 (instead of the original $595). It came with a nifty little chip removal tool and instructions on how to replace everything. The thing about the 486SLC chip that the 700 & 720 used was that it was so darn small. The 387SL math coprocessor took up about twice the area of the 486SLC chip. The actual hardware change took about 15 minutes and an additional 10 minutes spent reinstalling the reference and diagnostic diskettes. Installation might be different on the 755CE, but I was under the impression that they had made things much easier to access on the newer models than on the old 700/720 (eg. pop up keyboard). Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 06:20:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28134; Wed, 26 Jul 95 06:20:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14740; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 06:13:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 06:13:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14730; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 06:12:59 -0400 From: Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA051923547; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 06:12:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 06:12:28 -0400 Message-Id: <950726061227_41013951@aol.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Judge Ito's Thinkpad Just wondering if anyone knows what kind of IBM Thinkpad Ito has on his desktop. As far as I can tell, it looks like a 755 series of some sort. Also, does Ito run Win95, OS/2, Win3.11, or just plain DOS. PC Laptop magazine recently did a cover story on the O.J. courtroom and the various laptops that the lawyers use, but it did not mention the specifics of Ito's TP. Dennis From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 07:26:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00296; Wed, 26 Jul 95 07:26:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18044; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 07:19:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 07:19:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18034; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 07:19:44 -0400 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.51:30/EUnetD-2.5.1.k) via EUnet id NAA18830; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:21:23 +0200 Received: from osix.Materna.DE by materna.materna.de with 8 Bit SMTP (PP); Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:18:26 +0200 Message-Id: <9507261119.AA13536@osix.Materna.DE> X-Sender: mk@osix X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:19:12 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Michael.Kuschke@Materna.DE (Michael Kuschke) Subject: Introduction: M. Kuschke Hello, since about two week's I use a ThinkPad 750C as PC on my desk. The machine is equipped with 12 MB memory and a 170 MB HD. It's connected to the net via a 3Com PCMCIA ethernetcard. I hope that real soon now my port-replicator arrives, so that I can connect my monitor, keyboard and mouse easy. As OS I use the current beta of Windows 95, which run's well on the machine. I use the machine for my daily duties as consultant in networking and PC <-> Unix integration. So far, -M. Kuschke Michael Kuschke e-mail : Michael.Kuschke@Materna.DE Dr. Materna GmbH Voice : +49 231 5599 328 Vosskuhle 37, 44141 Dortmund, Germany FAX : +49 231 5599 100 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 08:57:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06914; Wed, 26 Jul 95 08:57:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24679; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 08:48:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 08:48:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24669; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 08:48:27 -0400 Received: from ts1p2.ro.com (ts1p2.ro.com [204.181.74.22]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA04522; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 07:53:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 07:53:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199507261253.HAA04522@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Douglas Bridges From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Doug, in Program Manager when I click on Help, then on About Program Manager, my version of Windows says this: Microsoft Windows Program Manager Version 3.1 Copyright 1985-1992 Microsoft Corp. When I click on the Control Panel to set the virtual memory stuff, it has the 32-bit disk access check box at the bottom. How do I explain this other than to say that 3.1 has 32-bit access. Also, when I look at the setup status (now that I have the 32-bit box checked), it says this: Current Settings Drive: D: Size: 8305 KB Type: Permanent (using 32-bit access) I'm running stacker on my 750C 340 meg drive and have about 10meg of unstacked drive being used as drive D: (after boot up). Where am I wrong about all this? Don > This is not true. You will find 32-bit disk access if you do what >you say. 32-bit file access does not come on Windows 3.1. It only >comes with Windows for Workgroups ver. 3.11 > >__________________________________________________________________________ >|Douglas Bridges | How to cook hawgs in Mississippi | >|dbridges@ERC.msstate.edu | http://www.erc.msstate.edu/hawgs/hawgs.html | >|__________________________|_____________________________________________| >|"If you cooperate, we will reduce the charges from hit-and-run murder | >| to littering." | >|________________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 11:20:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15271; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:20:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05578; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:07:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:07:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05568; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:07:15 -0400 Message-Id: <199507261507.LAA05568@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7478; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:07:11 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 9665; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:07:10 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (NJE origin KRUCK@WVNVM) by WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9976; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:07:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:07:01 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Subject: TP750 (was Pentium upgrade) Reading through the messages, people are talking about the pentium upgrade for the 755, and then someone mentioned an upgrade for the 720. (sorry, I can't flip across to the actual messages to include names). Is it still the case that there is _no_ upgrade options (except RAM and HD) for the 750 series? Thanks, Kruck 750 mono 20 megs RAM 340 HD (but thinking of upgrading) MegaHertz 14.4 Gold X-jack Dos & Windoze From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 11:36:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16186; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:36:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07457; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:28:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:28:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jupiter.cast.msstate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07441; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:28:44 -0400 Received: from berea.cast.msstate.edu by jupiter.cast.msstate.edu (4.1/6.0s-FWP); id AA01382; Wed, 26 Jul 95 10:27:50 CDT Received: by berea.cast.msstate.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id KAA03347; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:27:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:27:48 +36000 From: Valentine Anantharaj To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: diskette factory - disk size? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Since IBM did not ship the system diskettes, I am trying to use Diskette Factory to make a copy of the software and utilities. When I try to use the Diskette Factory, it prompts me for 2MB disks; but I believe I only have 1.44MB diskette drive, as shipped by default by IBM. What is the best way to determine the capacity of the diskette drive? If it is not the 2MB drive, would I still be able to make copies using a few more disks? Regards, VGA Valentine G. Anantharaj --------------- val@cast.msstate.edu --- MSU - Center for Air-Sea Technology vga1@ra.msstate.edu | Bldg. 1103, Room 233 Tel.: (601)688-1157 | Stennis Space Center Fax: (601)688-7100 | MS 39529-5005 -------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 11:55:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17365; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:55:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08833; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:43:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:43:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08823; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:43:43 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA6697; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:44:54 -0400 Message-Id: <9507261544.AA6697@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id EF7A8CE7BF704EAE852562050053C3ED; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:44:52 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 26 Jul 95 11:17:46 Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....When I click on the Control Panel to set the virtual memory stuff, it has the 32-bit disk access check box at the bottom. How do I explain this other than to say that 3.1 has 32-bit access. Also, when I look at the setup status (now that I have the 32-bit box checked), it says this:....." ".....> This is not true. You will find 32-bit disk access if you do what >you say. 32-bit file access does not come on Windows 3.1. It only >comes with Windows for Workgroups ver. 3.11....." ~~~~~~~~~~ We aren't talking about 32-bit disk access. yes, that does come with 3.1. We're talking about 32-bit file access, the check box (if you have it) to the right of 32-bit disk access in the same place in windoze control panel. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 12:26:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19592; Wed, 26 Jul 95 12:26:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11742; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 12:16:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 12:16:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11730; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 12:16:15 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA6726; Wed, 26 Jul 95 12:17:25 -0400 Message-Id: <9507261617.AA6726@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id ABDEB10607679760852562050058A5C8; Wed, 26 Jul 95 12:17:22 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 26 Jul 95 12:09:39 Subject: Re: diskette factory - disk size? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....Since IBM did not ship the system diskettes, I am trying to use Diskette Factory to make a copy of the software and utilities. When I try to use the Diskette Factory, it prompts me for 2MB disks; but I believe I only have 1.44MB diskette drive, as shipped by default by IBM. What is the best way to determine the capacity of the diskette drive? If it is not the 2MB drive, would I still be able to make copies using a few more disks?....." ~~~~~~~~~~ 1.44MB diskettes have a 2MB capacity before formatting. It's misleading. use 1.44s. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 13:38:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24189; Wed, 26 Jul 95 13:38:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17175; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:29:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:29:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jupiter.cast.msstate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17159; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:29:34 -0400 Received: from berea.cast.msstate.edu by jupiter.cast.msstate.edu (4.1/6.0s-FWP); id AA02160; Wed, 26 Jul 95 12:28:46 CDT Received: by berea.cast.msstate.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id MAA03414; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 12:28:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 12:28:43 +36000 From: Valentine Anantharaj To: John Kim Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: diskette factory - disk size? - Thanks In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for all who replied. I was able to make copies using 1.44mb formatted diskettes. Regards, VGA Valentine G. Anantharaj --------------- val@cast.msstate.edu --- MSU - Center for Air-Sea Technology vga1@ra.msstate.edu | Bldg. 1103, Room 233 Tel.: (601)688-1157 | Stennis Space Center Fax: (601)688-7100 | MS 39529-5005 -------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, John Kim wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Valentine Anantharaj wrote: > > > Since IBM did not ship the system diskettes, I am trying to use Diskette > > Factory to make a copy of the software and utilities. When I try to use > > the Diskette Factory, it prompts me for 2MB disks; but I believe I only > > have 1.44MB diskette drive, as shipped by default by IBM. > > Have you tried just going ahead with the program? 1.44MB disks are > 2MB unformatted. (2.88MB disks are 4MB unformatted) > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 14:43:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27221; Wed, 26 Jul 95 14:43:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16824; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:24:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:24:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16813; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:24:07 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA15014; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:24:05 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA09963; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:24:03 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507261724.KAA09963@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: diskette factory - disk size? To: val@cast.msstate.edu (Valentine Anantharaj) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Valentine Anantharaj" at Jul 26, 95 10:27:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Since IBM did not ship the system diskettes, I am trying to use Diskette > Factory to make a copy of the software and utilities. When I try to use > the Diskette Factory, it prompts me for 2MB disks; but I believe I only > have 1.44MB diskette drive, as shipped by default by IBM. The disks you speak of are actually a 2 MB capacity--its just that when you format them, the formatting data takes some space and all you have left is 1.44 MB of disk space. By the same token, 2.88 MB floppy disks are actually 4 MB in raw capacity. So just use the standard "1.44 MB" floppy disks you are familiar with and you'll be fine. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 19:31:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19699; Wed, 26 Jul 95 19:31:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15049; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 19:16:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 19:16:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asylum.sf.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15038; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 19:16:44 -0400 Received: (from lang@localhost) by asylum.sf.ca.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA07557; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 19:16:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 19:16:36 -0400 From: Lang Zerner Message-Id: <199507262316.TAA07557@asylum.sf.ca.us> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New ThinkPad info sources Reply-To: Lang Zerner Folks have been bandying about rumors of new ThinkPad models coming out Real Soon Now with 120MHz Pentiums and 11.3 or 12.1 inch SVGA screens. What is your source for this information (IBM hasn't announced any Pentium ThinkPads since June 20)? I'd like to find out when these new models are realistically expected to start shipping and what their expected prices are. Be seeing you... --Lang Zerner ITC Consulting Group integrated communication consulting services 915 Cole Street #151 networks * publishing * training * design San Francisco, CA 94117 +1 415 861 7688 * http://apocalypse.org/pub/itc/ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 20:37:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25429; Wed, 26 Jul 95 20:37:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18291; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 20:21:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 20:21:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18281; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 20:21:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 20:13:55 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New ThinkPad info sources In-Reply-To: <199507262316.TAA07557@asylum.sf.ca.us> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Lang Zerner wrote: > Folks have been bandying about rumors of new ThinkPad models coming out Real > Soon Now with 120MHz Pentiums and 11.3 or 12.1 inch SVGA screens. What is > your source for this information (IBM hasn't announced any Pentium ThinkPads > since June 20)? I'd like to find out when these new models are realistically > expected to start shipping and what their expected prices are. PC Week? http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 00:37:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17579; Thu, 27 Jul 95 00:37:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05881; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 00:24:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 00:24:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05871; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 00:24:06 -0400 Received: from champion.tcs.co.jp by champion.tcs.co.jp (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA01291; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:24:57 +0900 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:24:57 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199507270424.NAA01291@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs >We aren't talking about 32-bit disk access. yes, that does come with 3.1. >We're talking about 32-bit file access, the check box (if you have it) to the >right of 32-bit disk access in the same place in windoze control panel. Well, if it comes with 3.1 (the help button seems to know about it), I sure can't get it to work. I tried uploading the 3.11 mods from ftp.microsoft.com yesterday. That did not make any difference. There is no 31-bit anything checkbox under my Windoze control-panel-E386. So, if I have to use 32-bit access to get rid of this DOS error 21, then what do I need to do? BTW, 32-bit ghostscript and ghostview also produce the same DOS error 21. Do I have to buy WFWG? or is it better to just forget the whole thing and try Win95? -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 02:30:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25363; Thu, 27 Jul 95 02:30:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11624; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 02:13:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 02:13:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel.lmt.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11613; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 02:13:27 -0400 Received: from leonardo.lmt.com by rigel.lmt.com with SMTP id AA00582 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 27 Jul 1995 01:20:31 -0500 Received: from LEONARDO/SMTPQUEUE by leonardo.lmt.com (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 27 Jul 95 1:20:23 GMT-6 Received: from SMTPQUEUE by LEONARDO (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 25 Jul 95 14:50:00 GMT-6 From: "Chris Schumann" Organization: LaserMaster Technologies R&D Divn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:49:51 CST6CDT Subject: CD ROM drives Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: <1A4A302566@leonardo.lmt.com> Just a minor point, but full-sized CD ROM discs are not 5.25" across. They are, by design, 12cm across, or about 4.72". The smaller discs are 8cm, or about 3.15". From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 09:35:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20321; Thu, 27 Jul 95 09:35:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16896; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:27:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:27:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16886; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:27:31 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA06752; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:27:28 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id IAA65878; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:27:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:27:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Chris Schumann Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: CD ROM drives In-Reply-To: <1A4A302566@leonardo.lmt.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Chris Schumann wrote: >The smaller discs > are 8cm, or about 3.15". Are these ever used? And does the 755cd support them? I thought this size was just for CD-Audio singles. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 09:36:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20326; Thu, 27 Jul 95 09:36:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16851; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:27:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:27:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16841; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:27:02 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA06653; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:25:45 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id IAA58443; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:25:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:25:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Lee Hounshell Cc: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs In-Reply-To: <199507270424.NAA01291@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, Lee Hounshell wrote: > Well, if it comes with 3.1 (the help button seems to know about it), I sure > can't get it to work. I tried uploading the 3.11 mods from ftp.microsoft.com > yesterday. That did not make any difference. There is no 31-bit anything > checkbox under my Windoze control-panel-E386. The last time I checked, the mods on the ftp site, upgraded Windows 3.1 to Windows 3.11. What it doesn't do is add the functionality added in WfWG 3.11 like 32-bit file access. > Do I have to buy WFWG? or is it better to just forget the whole thing > and try Win95? Wait for Win95. It's at least as good as WfWG 3.11 at running Win16 apps, plus it has some nice features. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 10:21:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24623; Thu, 27 Jul 95 10:21:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21116; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:12:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:12:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21085; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:12:49 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA7486; Thu, 27 Jul 95 10:13:55 -0400 Message-Id: <9507271413.AA7486@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 7F1210237885AC9C85256206004C8766; Thu, 27 Jul 95 10:13:52 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 27 Jul 95 10:00:21 Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....Well, if it comes with 3.1 (the help button seems to know about it), I sure can't get it to work. I tried uploading the 3.11 mods from ftp.microsoft.com yesterday. That did not make any difference. There is no 31-bit anything checkbox under my Windoze control-panel-E386. So, if I have to use 32-bit access to get rid of this DOS error 21, then what do I need to do? BTW, 32-bit ghostscript and ghostview also produce the same DOS error 21. Do I have to buy WFWG? or is it better to just forget the whole thing and try Win95?....." ~~~~~~~~~~ In the 386 Enh, did you click on the "Virtual Memory," then "Change" buttons? This is where it appears-- at the bottom of the window. If it doesn't appear, then it must be a WFWG thing. The upgrade is only $40. I haven't looked at W95 yet, so I can't advise you there. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 12:01:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00796; Thu, 27 Jul 95 12:01:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00118; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 11:46:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 11:46:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from deneb.dfn.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29975; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 11:46:30 -0400 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA09526; Thu, 27 Jul 95 17:44:12 +0200 Received: from bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA23937; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 17:45:26 +0100 Received: by bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sbV5k-000DPcC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 17:43 MET DST Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 17:43:20 +0200 (MET DST) From: Hanno Wagner To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: PCMCIA Credit Card Adapter under OS/2? In-Reply-To: <199507241400.AA10645@wayne.ircam.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, my father is using an Thinkpad 755CD with 16MB RAM, 540 MB HDD, TFT Display, Win-OS/2 and IBM DOS. Now he tries to use his Credit Card Adapter from IBM for his Novell Netware (Server Version is 4.01 at this time). With DOS and Windows without OS/2, there is no problem with using the Card in the PCMCIA slot. It works without problems. But with OS/2, the system doesn't seems to detect the card right: it tells us, no int used, no mem used, no port used, node adress would be FFFFFFFFF, everything written in yellow letters, very unusual for a normal upcoming in OS/2. Than the system tells us that in the net.cfg wouldn't be a node address, but I told him the address in the net.cfg (the line is: node address 02000000000 ) after this, there are many errors and the system stops. Is there anyone familiar with this problem, can anyone send me his CONFIG.SYS and the NET.CFG? We don't have good books and the helpline of IBM can't help us. Thanks in advance, Hanno -- Hanno Wagner, Student der Fachhochschule Hannover, Fachbereich IK email: wagner@www.bid.fh-hannover.de URL: http://www.bid.fh-hannover.de:80/~wagner/ IRC: Rince (usually on #germany or #muenster or #braunschweig) "This is also a story about sex and drugs and Music With Rocks In. Well... ...one out of three ain't bad." From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 12:50:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09831; Thu, 27 Jul 95 12:50:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04968; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 12:41:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 12:41:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from biobase.dk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04958; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 12:41:07 -0400 Received: by biobase.dk; id AA01477; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 18:41:03 +0200 From: Paulo Magalhaes Message-Id: <9507271641.AA01477@biobase.dk> Subject: Network questions To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 18:41:02 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Greetings! I few minutes of your attention... I am trying to learn some intricate details of networking. I've just moved, and this is the setup I found at my new lab: Ethernet backbone ================= | | ------------- ------------- | |Farallon | |Farallon | \____|EtherWave |_____|EtherWave |______ HP |AAUI | |AAUI | LaserJet |Transceiver| |Transceiver| ------------- ------------- | | | | MacQuadra PowerMac | \__ SCSI ___ SCSI device A device B I hope the diagram is clear enough - feel free to ask questions if not. Ok, I have a simple TP750Cs with 8Mb RAM, 340Mb HD, running OS2 2.1 (soon, very soon, to be upgraded to Warp - where's the cheapest place to get it, btw? is there a discount for previous OS2 owners?) and I need to access data on the Macs. Even though I'm an ignoramus about these computer things, I guess that I need: a) a PCMCIA ethernet card [I believe 3Com's 3C589B has received some support in this list, but any additional information is most welcome]; b) another Farallon transceiver [just because that's what the people here use...]; c) a bit of patience setting everything up... So, why am I bothering everyone with this? Well, before I order the stuff, am I doing the right thing? Is there a cheaper/more convenient way of getting hooked to the network? Any problems with the expected Warp upgrade?... When I go home (taking my precious TP with me, of course!), will there be a problem for the Macs because of the "hanging", "empty" transceiver (the one I'm about to order, that is)? When I connect the TP to the transceiver, do I need to switch my computer off, or can I do it from a sleeping/hybernating condition? The equivalent question for disconnecting... I really appreciate your comments/suggestions. Additionally, I have another problem - small, but unsolvable, I think. It would be really, really good if I could access the SCSI devices >from my TP... But that's not possible, right? The "experts" here say that it is simply impossible to access another computer's SCSI port, but I still thought of asking for your opinion. No way to reach a SCSI device >from different machines?... Many thanks for your comments, and my apologies for a rather long message. Paulo From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 13:21:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14756; Thu, 27 Jul 95 13:21:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07720; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:10:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:10:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jupiter.cast.msstate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07693; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:10:00 -0400 Received: from berea.cast.msstate.edu by jupiter.cast.msstate.edu (4.1/6.0s-FWP); id AA09426; Thu, 27 Jul 95 12:09:03 CDT Received: by berea.cast.msstate.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id MAA04033; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 12:09:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 12:08:59 +36000 From: Valentine Anantharaj To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Drivers for 3Com Etherlink III - 3C589B? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a 3Com PCMCIA ethernet card for my TP755CE. I would like to be able to hook this to our local netwrok of mostly SGI and Sun workstations so that I can do ftp/telnet/SLIP/etc. I understand that the public domain software Trumpet would let me do this. I have the trumpet software, but I don't know where to find the drivers for this and the PC card to work together. Can someone give me directions on where I can find the driver and configure the PC card to use trumpet? We have no resident experts on PC networking at our site. I do plan on running Linux on the TP once I figure out how to do it, and I am in the process of investigating what I need to do. Also, if I upgrade MS Windows 3.11 to WWG 3.11, would I be able to mount the disks on our unix workstations and fileserver? Or would I need Sun PC-NFS or similar software? Regards, VGA Valentine G. Anantharaj --------------- val@cast.msstate.edu --- MSU - Center for Air-Sea Technology vga1@ra.msstate.edu | Bldg. 1103, Room 233 Tel.: (601)688-1157 | Stennis Space Center Fax: (601)688-7100 | MS 39529-5005 -------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 13:36:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16259; Thu, 27 Jul 95 13:36:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09715; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:28:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:28:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09701; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:28:32 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA08327; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:28:27 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA28885; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:28:25 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507271728.KAA28885@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Network questions To: pamaga@biobase.dk (Paulo Magalhaes) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9507271641.AA01477@biobase.dk> from "Paulo Magalhaes" at Jul 27, 95 06:41:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I few minutes of your attention... I am trying to learn some intricate > details of networking. > Additionally, I have another problem - small, but unsolvable, I think. > It would be really, really good if I could access the SCSI devices > from my TP... But that's not possible, right? The "experts" here say > that it is simply impossible to access another computer's SCSI port, but > I still thought of asking for your opinion. No way to reach a SCSI device > from different machines?... Some of it is going to be difficult, just because of formatting differences (maybe--things like this are weird) between PC and Mac. But one solution I know works on our Novell network with SCSI CD-ROMs at least, is this item called "DiscPort". It hooks into the network and essentially acts like a SCSI Host Adapter in controlling the CD-ROMs for the entire network to access and use. I don't know if it would work with your application, but it may be something you'll want to look into. Its made by a company called "Microtest" that appears to be based in the Netherlands, but has an office in Phoenix. Sales can be reached at (800) 526-9675. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 14:44:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21391; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:44:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14308; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:33:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:33:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14298; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:33:31 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA7709; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:34:43 -0400 Message-Id: <9507271834.AA7709@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id E0C70A61296ED025852562060063F363; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:34:40 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 27 Jul 95 14:22:06 Subject: Re: Drivers for 3Com Etherlink III - 3C589B? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....I have a 3Com PCMCIA ethernet card for my TP755CE. I would like to be able to hook this to our local netwrok of mostly SGI and Sun workstations so that I can do ftp/telnet/SLIP/etc. I understand that the public domain software Trumpet would let me do this. I have the trumpet software, but I don't know where to find the drivers for this and the PC card to work together. Can someone give me directions on where I can find the driver and configure the PC card to use trumpet? We have no resident experts on PC networking at our site. I do plan on running Linux on the TP once I figure out how to do it, and I am in the process of investigating what I need to do. Also, if I upgrade MS Windows 3.11 to WWG 3.11, would I be able to mount the disks on our unix workstations and fileserver? Or would I need Sun PC-NFS or similar software?....." ~~~~~~~~~~ I'm not sure what all of your needs are, but the tcp/ip stack that comes with the WFWG license (WinTCP) serves all of our thinkpads beautifully for inet access over the LAN. We use the Xircom, not 3Com, cards, but we don't need no steenking Trumpet to get T1 speed ftp/telnet/www etc. not sure what you mean by SLIP over the LAN, unless you mean redirecting a com port to a network modem & SLIPing in from there, in which case you will need something more than WinTCP. But if your inet server is on your LAN, all you need is the ip addresses of the server & the gateway to get there with WinTCP (you'll also avoid spending windoze memory on a third party product). Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 15:47:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26503; Thu, 27 Jul 95 15:47:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19372; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 15:36:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 15:36:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jupiter.cast.msstate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19354; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 15:36:04 -0400 Received: from berea.cast.msstate.edu by jupiter.cast.msstate.edu (4.1/6.0s-FWP); id AA10339; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:35:12 CDT Received: by berea.cast.msstate.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id OAA04250; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:35:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:35:08 +36000 From: Valentine Anantharaj To: Michael Verne/VENTANA Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: Drivers for 3Com Etherlink III - 3C589B? In-Reply-To: <9507271834.AA7709@LGATE.vmedia.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Jul 1995, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: > > I'm not sure what all of your needs are, but the tcp/ip stack that comes with > the WFWG license (WinTCP) serves all of our thinkpads beautifully for inet > access over the LAN. We use the Xircom, not 3Com, cards, but we don't need no > steenking Trumpet to get T1 speed ftp/telnet/www etc. not sure what you mean > by SLIP over the LAN, unless you mean redirecting a com port to a network modem > & SLIPing in from there, in which case you will need something more than > WinTCP. But if your inet server is on your LAN, all you need is the ip > addresses of the server & the gateway to get there with WinTCP (you'll also > avoid spending windoze memory on a third party product). > I do not plan to run SLIP over LAN, just ftp and telnet. I will use SLIP with the modem. I understand that Trumpet supports SLIP. The TP has plain vanilla MS Windows 3.11, not WfWG 3.11 and no WinTCP, unless I have to upgrade to WfWG. Regards, VGA (val@cast.msstate.edu) Valentine G. Anantharaj --------------- val@cast.msstate.edu --- MSU - Center for Air-Sea Technology vga1@ra.msstate.edu | Bldg. 1103, Room 233 Tel.: (601)688-1157 | Stennis Space Center Fax: (601)688-7100 | MS 39529-5005 -------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 16:43:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00463; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:43:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23938; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 16:31:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 16:31:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from imag.imag.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23925; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 16:31:42 -0400 Received: from safran-28 (safran.imag.fr [129.88.29.1]) by imag.imag.fr (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA18426; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 22:31:35 +0200 Received: (elf@localhost) by safran-28 (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.4) id WAA13793; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 22:31:34 +0200 Message-Id: <199507272031.WAA13793@safran-28> From: Eugene.Fiume@imag.fr (Eugene Fiume) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 22:31:34 -0600 In-Reply-To: Valentine Anantharaj's message as of Jul 27, 7:29pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Valentine Anantharaj , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Drivers for 3Com Etherlink III - 3C589B? } Can someone give me directions on where I can find the driver and } configure the PC card to use trumpet? We have no resident experts on PC } networking at our site. I do plan on running Linux on the TP once I } figure out how to do it, and I am in the process of investigating what I } need to do. My background: I started by learning about packet drivers on DOS and Windows. I got them to talk to my PE-200 (an NE-2000 clone) card under both. I got kermit to talk TCP/IP under DOS and Trumpet and a variety of other things to talk TCP/IP and NFS under Windows 3.11. This required a longer learning curve than I wanted, because I thought for sure that things just *had* to be harder with a UNIX system (despite the fact that I'm a UNIX guy). I was wrong. If you are serious about going to Linux and your card is supported by Linux, then just do it. Of the solutions under Windows, I in fact found that the winsock provided with the Trumpet software seemed to give more reliable and better performance than the software provided by Microsoft. Even so, it is consistently about 1/3 the performance at best of my Linux setup. Now, I must say that if you're happy with 1Mbps or so burst performance, which really ain't bad, then you'll be happy with the Windows solution mentioned by someone else, or with the Trumpet solution I used most often. But I personally have not found anything to match the reliability and performance of the Linux solution, except perhaps for another UNIX implementation, which I haven't tried. } Also, if I upgrade MS Windows 3.11 to WWG 3.11, would I be able to mount } the disks on our unix workstations and fileserver? Or would I need Sun } PC-NFS or similar software? As another poster mentioned, it is possible to avoid PC-NFS. I used the shareware Tropic NFS briefly, to share filesystems with a variety of Suns and SGI machines. Throughput wasn't great, but it was acceptable. There are lots of solutions around that cost more money, but once I started using Linux, I erased the other solutions. I really don't mean this to soundlike an advocacy post. I tried many solutions, and all have their merits. Oh, Linux hint for the day: I've plugged into several different networks using Linux on my TP755CE and have been very happily up and running within minutes every time. At one site, however, a lab manager gave me more credit for knowing what I was doing than I did...turns out I was turning on routed and my TP was sufficiently trusted to become a default router for their network. This, um, caused problems. So, if you are a mobile network user and don't plan to be a name server or router for anyone, you should ensure this is disabled in your startup. By the way, does anyone have any documentation for the gated that is distributed at various Linux sites? Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 21:43:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28578; Thu, 27 Jul 95 21:43:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16810; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:30:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:30:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16765; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:30:18 -0400 Received: from by (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA14118; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 10:31:45 +0900 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 10:31:45 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199507280131.KAA14118@Pion> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs >In the 386 Enh, did you click on the "Virtual Memory," then "Change" buttons? >This is where it appears-- at the bottom of the window. If it doesn't appear, >then it must be a WFWG thing. The upgrade is only $40. I haven't looked at Yeah, I tried that. No 32-bit toggles on the screen, just a blank area where it probably appears. The help button talks about it, but it doesn't say how to get it to appear. Probably I'm going to wait and try Win95. Although to be honest, I'm kinda apprehensive about the move. It's taken me a year to get the messy-DOS/Windoze stuff to (mostly) work ok. I really don't want to spend another year configuring another OS.... -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 00:20:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12715; Fri, 28 Jul 95 00:20:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29049; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:10:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:10:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29029; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:09:58 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id EAA57461 for >; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 04:09:56 GMT Message-Id: <199507280409.EAA57461@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip34-18.il.us.ibm.net(129.37.34.18) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaMmkGKs; Fri Jul 28 04:09:51 1995 X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) From: Stephen Hosmer To: Thinkpad Thinkpad Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:11:44 PDT Reply-To: Stephen Hosmer Subject: Is the 750 Upgradeable I noticed the discusson of the upgrade to the 755. But is the 750 upgradable to a Pentium? ____________________________________________ Stephen Hosmer CFO Royale Energy Inc hosmer@ibm.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 00:23:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13132; Fri, 28 Jul 95 00:23:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29076; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:10:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:10:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29043; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:10:01 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id EAA90743; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 04:09:56 GMT Message-Id: <199507280409.EAA90743@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip34-18.il.us.ibm.net(129.37.34.18) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaMmkJxI; Fri Jul 28 04:09:54 1995 X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) From: Stephen Hosmer To: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler To: Thinkpad Thinkpad Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:11:46 PDT Reply-To: Stephen Hosmer Subject: Re: Serial Number Addressed to: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Thinkpad Thinkpad ** Reply to note from Conrad Albrecht-Buehler 07/21/95 9:09pm -0500 I know its not the same number but there is a serial number that shows up in the config screen if you hold F1 while poweron. IBM may be able to initiate service based on that number. Did you buy this machine new? Did someone before you rub off the number. There are a few machines going around that are true IBM only as far as the platic case. Beware. ____________________________________________ Stephen Hosmer CFO Royale Energy Inc hosmer@ibm.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 00:31:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13484; Fri, 28 Jul 95 00:31:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00348; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:21:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:21:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gs1.cinti.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00335; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:21:50 -0400 Received: from ppp12.cinti.net (ppp12. [204.248.144.62]) by gs1.cinti.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA10873 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:15:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:15:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199507280415.AAA10873@gs1.cinti.net> X-Sender: merlyn@mail.cinti.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: merlyn@mail.cinti.net (Randy Karshner) Subject: Greetings Greetings Everyone, Since im new to the group i thought id drop a little bit about my system and its OS. I have a Thinkpad 750ce, 12megs of ram, and its running Windows. Im really interested to know if anyone has gotten any newer dos games like Doom2, Heretic etc to play sound... Randy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 01:21:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16092; Fri, 28 Jul 95 01:21:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03771; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:11:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:11:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03759; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:11:17 -0400 Received: from by (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA15277; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:12:46 +0900 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:12:46 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199507280512.OAA15277@Pion> To: hosmer@ibm.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Is the 750 Upgradeable >From what I've heard it is not. Apparently, not even all models of the 755 are upgradeable. I have a 755C, and would like to upgrade. >From what I hear, it can not be upgraded either. -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 02:11:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18987; Fri, 28 Jul 95 02:11:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05874; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:52:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:52:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gs1.cinti.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05862; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:52:01 -0400 Received: from ppp4.cinti.net (ppp4. [204.248.144.54]) by gs1.cinti.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA11232 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:37:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:37:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199507280537.BAA11232@gs1.cinti.net> X-Sender: merlyn@mail.cinti.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: merlyn@mail.cinti.net (Randy Karshner) Subject: Tp750ce Questions(SOUND) Hi all, The Thinkpad i bought was used, and came without any software or the manuals. I was able to download most of the software for it from Ibm's ftp server. However i have a couple questions which a couple of you guys might be able to help me out with. Has anyone been able to get Doom/Heretic any newer games at all to use sound? They all ask for a standard set of values.. Like Interrupt, Dma, Etc.. Since i bought this used without manuals i have no idea of what kind of sound hardware it has, and where it resides... I tried using the Tpaudio software, but it dosent work right because i don't know the Interrupts, Dma, etc for this sound chip in my Tp. If anyone can help me through this i would really appreciate it... Its a TP750ce... Randy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 09:59:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17180; Fri, 28 Jul 95 09:59:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17707; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:47:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:47:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17697; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:47:17 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA12182 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 08:47:09 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 08:47:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199507281347.IAA12182@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: Tp750ce Questions(SOUND) At 01:37 AM 7/28/95 -0400, you wrote: >Hi all, > > The Thinkpad i bought was used, and came without any software or the >manuals. I was able to download most of the software for it from Ibm's >ftp server. However i have a couple questions which a couple of you >guys might be able to help me out with. Has anyone been able to get >Doom/Heretic any newer games at all to use sound? They all ask for >a standard set of values.. Like Interrupt, Dma, Etc.. Since i bought >this used without manuals i have no idea of what kind of sound hardware >it has, and where it resides... I tried using the Tpaudio software, but >it dosent work right because i don't know the Interrupts, Dma, etc for >this sound chip in my Tp. If anyone can help me through this i would >really appreciate it... Its a TP750ce... > >Randy > > The sound chips in the TP750 are fine for MS-Windows, but the Soundblaster compatibility program is software only and will _not_ work with the MS-DOS "extenders" which are so popular in newer ms-dos arcade games like Doom, Decent, etc. The point is, unfortunately, nobody has gotten sound effects to work with Doom/Heretic. IBM has lost interest in it since the newer 755CE/CD/CX etc notebooks with the MWave chip can hardware emulate a Soundblaster and thus work with Doom, etc. Note that many MS-DOS games which do not utilize a 32-bit dos extender work fairly well with the 750 software soundblaster compatibility program. "Wolfenstein 3D" sound runs just fine on the 750, for example, as do many of the Sierra adventure games (i played Police Quest 3 for a while on a 750C and got the sound effects). Sorry --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 14:28:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08590; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:28:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11646; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:19:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:19:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11634; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:19:52 -0400 Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (sears@localhost) by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (8.6.12/3.7davy) id NAA28610; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 13:19:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199507281819.NAA28610@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 13:19:42 -0500 From: Michael J Sears To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: sears@ecn.purdue.edu Subject: IBM PC Outlet Hello all, I've seen a few references here to the "IBM PC Outlet", can someone post the number? Is this different than "IBM PC Direct"? thanks, Michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | ___ | Michael J. Sears, Graduate Student | | ( __ __ __ __ | INTERNET: sears@ecn.purdue.edu | | `-- |--'| || (_ | Department of Agricultural & Biological Engineering | | ___) `-- `--|| __) | Purdue University | | | West Lafayette, Indiana 47907-1146 USA | | | Home Page: http://www.evansville.net/~sears/ | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 15:11:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11052; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:11:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15316; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:59:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:59:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15299; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:59:50 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA23728; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 11:59:47 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA24645; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 11:59:44 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507281859.LAA24645@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs To: lee@champion.tcs.co.jp (Lee Hounshell) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 11:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199507280131.KAA14118@Pion> from "Lee Hounshell" at Jul 28, 95 10:31:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Probably I'm going to wait and try Win95. > Although to be honest, I'm kinda apprehensive about the move. > It's taken me a year to get the messy-DOS/Windoze stuff to (mostly) work ok. > I really don't want to spend another year configuring another OS.... Join the club. I'm in no hurry either. I figure I'll let the rest of the general population "beta test" Win '95 for a few months after its official release before I take the plunge. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 15:47:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14165; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:47:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18158; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 15:34:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 15:34:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18148; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 15:34:52 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA8655; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:35:59 -0400 Message-Id: <9507281935.AA8655@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 2A239F62E1D34A8B852562070069556B; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:35:56 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 28 Jul 95 15:13:56 Subject: Re: IBM PC Outlet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....I've seen a few references here to the "IBM PC Outlet", can someone post the number? Is this different than "IBM PC Direct"? ....." ~~~~~~~~~~ PC Direct is IBM's in-house "dealership" where they sell lots of stuff other than just IBM products. 800-IBM-2YOU. The PC Factory Outlet is a store in the Triangle Shops (Factory Shops?) shopping center on Airport Rd. in Morrisville/RTP. Don't know the phone number. They're famous for low prices on last year's IBM products. Lots of refurb stuff, too. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst and Middle-Weight Ping Pong Champion Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 19:26:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05535; Fri, 28 Jul 95 19:26:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05059; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:16:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:16:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mthood.ohsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05041; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:16:50 -0400 Received: by mthood.ohsu.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI.AUTO) for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU id QAA24267; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 16:14:17 -0700 From: "Ronald Sakaguchi" Message-Id: <9507281614.ZM24265@mthood.ohsu.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 16:14:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: How to install Warp on 755CD? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'd like to install OS/2 Warp (CD-ROM version) on my 755CD, but was told by IBM tech support that it can't be done because the floppy and CD-ROM need to be hot swapped during installation. Is there a work around for this? I seem to remember seeing something about copying the OS/2 boot disk and editing the config.sys. Any suggestions will be gratefully accepted! RLS -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ronald L. Sakaguchi, DDS, MS, PhD Dept of Biomaterials & Biomechanics Associate Professor Oregon Health Sciences University voice: (503) 494-8692 611 SW Campus Drive, SD-503 fax: (503) 494-8260 Portland, OR 97201-3097 rls@mthood.ohsu.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 29 21:48:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18301; Sat, 29 Jul 95 21:48:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09830; Sat, 29 Jul 1995 21:33:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 29 Jul 1995 21:33:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09820; Sat, 29 Jul 1995 21:33:32 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA26326 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 1995 18:33:30 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id SAA12724 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 29 Jul 1995 18:33:28 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507300133.SAA12724@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Web Page I stumbled across To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 18:33:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just stumbled across a ThinkPad-oriented Web page and thought the list might like to know the address. Here y'all go: http://www.wimsey.com/PacificaBlue/thinkpad ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 02:39:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08625; Sun, 30 Jul 95 02:39:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28033; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:31:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:31:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28023; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:31:05 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA16992; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:26:24 -0400 Message-Id: <9507300626.AA16992@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Memory upgrades for 755CX To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:26:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Okay, my 755CX is ordered, the port replicator I is ordered, etc. I've really appreciated everyone's advice and help so far. I've seen stuff about IC DRAM memory and another type which requires a Memory Module Adaptor. The latter variety is more expensive, but seems to allow for greater expansion (two slots rather than one for the IC DRAM). I'm considering adding either 8M or 16M to the 755CX, but don't expect to add any more during the time I own it; especially as a 16M IC DRAM card would bring it up to 24M RAM. Does anyone have a compelling reason what I should spend more money (at least $80) for the version that requires the Memory Module Adapter. Any pointers to good, cheap sources for 755cx memory would be appreciated. Thanks again. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 02:57:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09605; Sun, 30 Jul 95 02:57:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28751; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:51:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:51:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28739; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:51:40 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA32213; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:18:57 -0400 Message-Id: <9507300618.AA32213@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: WarpConnect + PortReplicator I + PCMCIA ethernet; hot docking? (Summary) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:18:57 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <9507251506.AA24660@hepth.cornell.edu> from "Lew Jansen" at Jul 25, 95 11:06:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I had asked the list about hot-docking with a 755CX and a Port Replicator I, specifically if there was any PCMCIA ethernet cards which would work with this setup (including hot-docking) under Warp. IBM Tech Support had said that you had to turn off the Thinkpad before docking/undocking and I wanted to see if this was in fact true. Unfortunately, it seems to be so. I had reports that Thinkpads really don't like to be undocked from a without rebooting -- the network drivers got rather upset and tended to lock up or crash the machine. Guess I'll just have to get used to the idea of rebooting every time. Thanks to all who responded. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 03:30:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10766; Sun, 30 Jul 95 03:30:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00396; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 03:18:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 03:18:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tom.compulink.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00386; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 03:18:27 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by tom.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA25239 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 08:17:49 +0100 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 95 08:17 BST-1 From: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk (Gerry Prosser) Subject: How to install Warp on a 755CD ? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk Reply-To: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: First, you need about 40MB spare on your hard drive. Once you have got that, do the following: 1. with the cdrom drive installed: a) save the disk0.dsk and dsk1.dsk images out of \diskimgs\os2\35 - I believe you can use the ones provided with the warp distribution package, but they waste time sniffing around your system for ide and scsi cdrom drives. b) xcopy /s /e the whole of the os2image library (inc all its sub- directories) to your hard drive 2. swap your cdrom for the diskette drive: a) cut your new disk0 and disk1 images using loaddskf /y/q/f b) edit config.sys on disk 1 to add 'set sourcepath=d:\os2image' (or whatever you xcopy'd to) as the last statement c) copy the new disk0 and disk1 diskettes to \os2image\disk_0 and \os2image\disk_1, respectively 3. cross your fingers, shutdown the ThinkPad, and re-boot from the new install diskette (disk0). Gerry -------- Original Message -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 29 00:35:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by tom.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA25682 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 1995 00:35:05 +0100 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05059; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:16:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:16:55 EDT Errors-to: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mthood.ohsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05041; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:16:50 -0400 Received: by mthood.ohsu.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI.AUTO) for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU id QAA24267; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 16:14:17 -0700 From: "Ronald Sakaguchi" Message-Id: <9507281614.ZM24265@mthood.ohsu.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 16:14:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: How to install Warp on 755CD? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Apparently-To: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk I'd like to install OS/2 Warp (CD-ROM version) on my 755CD, but was told by IBM tech support that it can't be done because the floppy and CD-ROM need to be hot swapped during installation. Is there a work around for this? I seem to remember seeing something about copying the OS/2 boot disk and editing the config.sys. Any suggestions will be gratefully accepted! RLS -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ronald L. Sakaguchi, DDS, MS, PhD Dept of Biomaterials & Biomechanics Associate Professor Oregon Health Sciences University voice: (503) 494-8692 611 SW Campus Drive, SD-503 fax: (503) 494-8260 Portland, OR 97201-3097 rls@mthood.ohsu.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 09:39:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00156; Sun, 30 Jul 95 09:39:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24849; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 09:26:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 09:26:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24839; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 09:26:16 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (5.65/56) id AA13000; Sat, 29 Jul 95 12:51:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 95 12:51:45 -0400 From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <9507291651.AA13000@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755CX 800x600 mode I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has experience specifically with Linux XFree86 on the TP755CX (which has a 800x600 TFT panel), or with the WD90CX video controller in general. Lacking this, I would appreciate advice as to how I might obtain the techical data I need to configure XFree86 for this machine, or to update the SVGA driver it that proves necessary. --Ted Baker PS: I bought he CX based on the reports I'd heard of success with Linux on the other 755 models, but it seems this may be too near the "bleeding edge" of technology. When I sit here looking a miniscule 640x480 display in the middle of my 800x600 panel, and realize that the built-in DSP is apparently not going to do me any good, I regret not buying something more basic. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 12:05:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12075; Sun, 30 Jul 95 12:05:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03436; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 11:58:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 11:58:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03425; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 11:58:37 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id MAA13612; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:03:11 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:03:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Lew Jansen Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: WarpConnect + PortReplicator I + PCMCIA ethernet; hot docking? (Summary) In-Reply-To: <9507300618.AA32213@hepth.cornell.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 30 Jul 1995, Lew Jansen wrote: > I had asked the list about hot-docking with a 755CX and a Port Replicator I, > > Unfortunately, it seems to be so. I had reports that Thinkpads really don't > like to be undocked from a without rebooting -- the network drivers got rather > upset and tended to lock up or crash the machine. Guess I'll just have to get > used to the idea of rebooting every time. You could try hitting the eject button on the ether card before undocking. If the drivers are robust enough to allow the pcmcia card to be removed, then the only problem might be that undocking doesn't send the "card has been ejected" signal to the drivers. Perhaps if you do that and _then_ undock, the drivers will not lock up. On another note - what did you pay for the PR I? I haven't seen prices for it or the II lately, was thinkign of buying one.... ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 12:07:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12088; Sun, 30 Jul 95 12:07:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03842; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:02:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:02:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03832; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:02:39 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id MAA13955; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:07:16 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:07:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: Toshiba HD upgrade In-Reply-To: <199507241842.LAA27613@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > > Trust me, swapping drives in the case is _not_ very hard - certainly not > > worth $100. _I_ will do it for anyone on the list for $10 and you pay > > shipping, if you don't feel confident enough to do it yourself. > > What I'm curious about Don, is if one can get away without using > *any* hard drive enclosure at all? Well, from a very strict standpoint, all you "need" is the cable that makes the 44 pin 2.5" IDE drive into the AMP connector that sockets onto the 'pads mainboard. But then your drive would rattle around. It seems likely you could make something as an enclosure if you wanted to, the problem is that AMP connector. Nobody has been able to find the part number for it in order to get it from AMP. IBM, understandable, has been less than eager to pony it up. We need to find a friend in the TP engineering department who can get us a list of generic part numbers. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 15:31:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26215; Sun, 30 Jul 95 15:31:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14361; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:23:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:23:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14341; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:23:40 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA32150; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:18:55 -0400 Message-Id: <9507301918.AA32150@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: WarpConnect + PortReplicator I + PCMCIA ethernet; hot docking? (Summary) To: dwhite@shadow.net (Don Whiteside) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, lrj@hepth.cornell.edu (Lew Jansen) In-Reply-To: from "Don Whiteside" at Jul 30, 95 12:03:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text On Sun, 30 Jul 1995, Don Whiteside wrote: > You could try hitting the eject button on the ether card before > undocking. If the drivers are robust enough to allow the pcmcia card to > be removed, then the only problem might be that undocking doesn't send > the "card has been ejected" signal to the drivers. Perhaps if you do that > and _then_ undock, the drivers will not lock up. Thanks for the suggestion -- I'll give that a shot when I get the hardware in a week or so and report back to the list... I wonder if the problem might also have to do with two of the four total PCMCIA slots disappearing when you undock, and the system BIOS getting upset about it. (of course, I don't know a whole lot about PCMCIA, so this may be way off track) > On another note - what did you pay for the PR I? I haven't seen prices > for it or the II lately, was thinkign of buying one.... I ordered my PR I from Computer Discount Warehouse, it was $304.44. CDW's part number is "CDW35099", IBM's part number is 66G3510. They had a handful of them in stock at the end of last week. The PR II is somewhere around $100; but I wanted the PCMCIA slots. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 15:47:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26784; Sun, 30 Jul 95 15:47:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15702; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:43:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:43:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15691; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:42:58 -0400 From: Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA232763347; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:42:27 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:42:27 -0400 Message-Id: <950730154224_126395088@aol.com> To: mschaef@cs.utexas.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: CD ROM drives In a message dated 95-07-27 09:41:11 EDT, mschaef@cs.utexas.edu (Mike Schaeffer) writes: >On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Chris Schumann wrote: >>The smaller discs >> are 8cm, or about 3.15". > Are these ever used? And does the 755cd support them? I thought >this size was just for CD-Audio singles. > > -Mike > > 8cm CD's are used for data purposes in the Sony DATA Discman. Otherwise, the majority usage of 8cm CD's are audio singles. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 19:01:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10804; Sun, 30 Jul 95 19:01:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27412; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 18:55:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 18:55:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27397; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 18:55:06 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (5.65/56) id AA13239; Sun, 30 Jul 95 18:51:45 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 95 18:51:45 -0400 From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <9507302251.AA13239@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755CX | Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, | how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), | and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST | address -- don't just reply to this message!) OK. I'll tell my story as it has unfolded so far, but forgive me if it is too long. I just bought a TP755CX, whose main claims to greatness are the Pentium processor and 800x600 display. It somes with 8Mbytes of RAM and 810 Mbytes of disk. I added a 32Mbyte RAM card, since I plan on doing big compiles, and would like to speed these up using a RAM disk. I intended to use this machine on the road, with LaTeX at IEEE POSIX meetings (for my work as Technical Editor for the IEEE POSIX.5b project) and as a development station for porting our Pthreads and Ada tasking (GNARL) implementation to Linux. I also ordered an IBM PCMCIA ethernet card, version II, which I have sent back. My plan was to ftp Slackware via the ethernet onto the disk using DOS, and install it from ther. This did not work very well, since I could not find a (DOS) packet driver for that PCMCIA card, and IBM supplies it with a male RJ45 connector. Between trying to adapt the gender of the connector and the lack of packet driver, I was frustrated enough to send the card back to IBM. I installed Slackware using a borrowed PCMCIA card from a colleague, who has a Sager 90Mhz pentium laptop machine. I have now ordered one of the Sager PCMCIA ethernet card (about half the price of the IBM card), since it apparently works OK with both DOS and Linux on the TP as well as the Sager machine. Before installing Linux, we zipped up all the preinstalled software, and ftp'd it to another system for backup, figuring we could reinstall what we wanted later. This was a mistake. If you do this, run the "disk factory" utility, and make installation disks of everything, before you start. You may want to use DOS and/or OS/2 to be able to take advantage of all the nifty DSP software. I only reserved about 200 Mbytes for DOS, and scrapped OS/2. This is not enough space to reload the software. The preinstalled stuff takes over 400 Mbytes, and has components in various directories. The only way to remove things cleanly is to use the remove-utilities provided with the software. You can't really reinstall just pieces, unless you have first used the IBM-supplied "disk factory" to make your own installation disks. (This is aggravated by the fact that the disk factory software crashes when you run it to create disks for the OS/2 windows installation.) We tried to restore enough of the DOS installation to allow us to ftp over Slackware. The result is an oversized and crippled DOS/Windows installation, with a lot of miscellaneous junk from OS/2 and other preinstalled software, that came along in the directories we restored. There is no reasonable way to get all this stuff out of there, since the uninstall utility dies if it larg chunks are already missing. It looks like I've effectively lost all the preinstalled software, unless I want to remove Linux, repartition the disk, restore the whole thing, and start over. Slackware, which I downloaded from sunsite.unc.edu, installed with no hitches. XFree86 came up with no trouble in 640x480 mode, using the XF86Config file from the TP755 FAQ. I fetched linux-1.2.11, modules-1.2.8, apm_bios.0.5, and pcmcia-cs-2.6.2, and built a new kernel. It seems to run OK. I still have the following problems: 1. APM only partly works. If I use the daemon, it does put the screen into sleep mode after a period of idleness, but it keeps the disk running, and if I use the fcn-key bindings to idle the machine, it locks up. Killing the daemon restored use of the key bindings. I don't know how to proceed on this without some documentation on the TP's apm controller and bios. 2. When you come out of X11, the tty video controller is left in a weird state. Portions of the line seem to be overwritten, and shifted slightly, so that you end up with some characters duplicated and overwritten. It is useless until you power down the system. 3. No amount of fiddling with XF86Config gave access to the 800x600 pixel mode. Looking at the clock numbers reported by the SVGA driver, from several experiments between which I used the display in 800x600 vis DOS/Windows, I see differences that indicate one probably needs to reprogram the controller to adjust the clock rate. 4. I guess I am going to have to sacrifice all the neat functionality of the DSP, including modem and sound card services, since I've not seen anything on the net about support for that under Linux. I'm most worried about problems 2 and 3, since right now my display at 640x480 is smaller than most el-cheapo laptops, with a nice big black border all around it, of unused pixels. It seems problems 2 and 3 will require mucking with the SVGA driver, for which some documentation on the programming interface to the video controller is going to be needed. I tried to get help from IBM tech support, but it turned into a waste of half a day's time on the phone. I must have talked to over a dozen people, but it was a merry-go-round. They passed me back and forth, through various phone numbers, each time eventually coming back to the same number. Right now, I need to get some real work done, so I've put it aside and am using my trust Sun workstation until I can get some more information. Besides e-mail to this list, my efforts to get more information will include a call to the IBM publications folks to see if I can find any sort of hardware reference manual for this machine. I've also asked Western Digital for data sheets on their WD90C24 chip set, which the SVGA driver seems to think is present, and am waitint to see if they help any. If you have any advice or information that might help, I would be pleased to hear from you. Prof. Ted Baker Department of Computer Science Florida State University Tallahassee, FL 32306-4019 phone: 904-644-5452 fax: 904-644-0058 e-mail: baker@cs.fsu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 19:47:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13717; Sun, 30 Jul 95 19:47:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29367; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 19:41:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 19:41:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29356; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 19:41:55 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA02400; Sun, 30 Jul 95 19:42:50 EDT Date: Sun, 30 Jul 95 19:42:50 EDT From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507302342.AA02400@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CX 800x600 mode why the heck are you looking at a 640 x 480 display, why are yuou not using the 800 x 600 drivers??? Also why won't the built-in DSP do anything for you? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 03:47:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10524; Mon, 31 Jul 95 03:47:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00534; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 03:36:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 03:36:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from internet-gw.zurich.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00490; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 03:35:51 -0400 Received: from [9.4.23.208] by internet-gw.zurich.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA81251 from ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:35:41 +0200 Received: by clariden.zurich.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25915 from ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:35:36 +0200 Message-Id: <9507310735.AA25915@clariden.zurich.ibm.com> To: Ted Baker Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CX In-Reply-To: (Your message of Sun, 30 Jul 95 18:51:45 D.) <9507302251.AA13239@ada.cs.fsu.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:35:35 +0100 From: Michael Steiner > 1. APM only partly works. If I use the daemon, it does put the > screen into sleep mode after a period of idleness, but it keeps > the disk running, and if I use the fcn-key bindings to idle the > machine, it locks up. Killing the daemon restored use of the > key bindings. I don't know how to proceed on this without some > documentation on the TP's apm controller and bios. with 0.5 you don't really need the daemon. the kernel routines should handle everything fine. The problem you describe is probably because you use PCMCIA cards. it seems that the Thinkpad does not properly process APM request if PCMCIA cards are active (e.g it does not pass the APM request the kernel handler which could when disable the cards). if you suspend the PCMCIA card by hand ("cardctl suspend 1" and "cardctl suspend 2") it should work fine for suspend as well as hibernate. (note: when you resume the cards will be reenabled by the kernel apm rsp the PCMCIA drivers automaticaly) > 2. When you come out of X11, the tty video controller is left in > a weird state. Portions of the line seem to be overwritten, > and shifted slightly, so that you end up with some characters > duplicated and overwritten. It is useless until you power down > the system. i don't know about this problems but some problems with the display of the 750Cs could be resolved by hitting 'Fn-7'. -michael steiner- =============================================================================== Michael Steiner IBM Research Lab Zelgstrasse 8 Saeumerstrasse 4 CH-8134 Adliswil ___________ CH-8803 Rueschlikon 01 / 710 30 32 | 01 / 724 82 86 ^ ---------------------------------(_)--------------------------------- learning the art of flying: "throwing yourself at the ground and miss" (Douglas Adams, "Life, the Universe and Everything") PS: my gate to the internet PGP key =============================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 03:55:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10835; Mon, 31 Jul 95 03:55:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02604; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 03:50:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 03:50:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02586; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 03:50:07 -0400 From: Received: from opera.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:49:48 +0200 Received: by opera.chorus.fr; Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:49:47 +0200 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:49:47 +0200 Message-Id: <9507310749.AA25208@opera.chorus.fr> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu Subject: Re: TP755CX Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Hello Ted, > > I just bought a TP755CX, whose main claims to greatness are the > Pentium processor and 800x600 display. It somes with 8Mbytes of > RAM and 810 Mbytes of disk. I added a 32Mbyte RAM card, since I > plan on doing big compiles, and would like to speed these up using > a RAM disk. What a wonderful config you've got ! I do only have a poor 360CSE with 4Mb of RAM and 340Mb of disk space. I am running DOS/Windows on a small compressed paritition (40MB) and the left room is used by Linux. > > I also ordered an IBM PCMCIA ethernet card, version II, which I > have sent back. My plan was to ftp Slackware via the ethernet > onto the disk using DOS, and install it from ther. This did not > work very well, since I could not find a (DOS) packet driver for > that PCMCIA card, and IBM supplies it with a male RJ45 connector. > Between trying to adapt the gender of the connector and the lack > of packet driver, I was frustrated enough to send the card back to > IBM. I have also been disappointed by the Ethernet Card. A few weeks ago, I purchased a Xircom PCMCIA Card. I thought it was supported by the Linux PCMCIA package from David Hinds, but apparently, it is not. There seems to be a problem with Xircom not publishing the technical information about their cards. Checking with the customer service, it seems that we have to buy a developpers kit ! The card does, of course, run under r DOS/Windows but it's useless for me. I think I'd better buy a simple (less efficient) D-Link card which it supported by both operating systems. > I still have the following problems: > > 1. APM only partly works. If I use the daemon, it does put the > screen into sleep mode after a period of idleness, but it keeps > the disk running, and if I use the fcn-key bindings to idle the > machine, it locks up. Killing the daemon restored use of the > key bindings. I don't know how to proceed on this without some > documentation on the TP's apm controller and bios. Can't help you on this point > > 2. When you come out of X11, the tty video controller is left in > a weird state. Portions of the line seem to be overwritten, > and shifted slightly, so that you end up with some characters > duplicated and overwritten. It is useless until you power down > the system. OK, this is a classical problem with Thinkpads, I do have the same problem. The trick is as follow to avoid rebooting: On exit from X11, you must press the Fn+F7 key and you'll get the text screen again. > > 3. No amount of fiddling with XF86Config gave access to the 800x600 > pixel mode. Looking at the clock numbers reported by the SVGA driver, > from several experiments between which I used the display in 800x600 > vis DOS/Windows, I see differences that indicate one probably needs > to reprogram the controller to adjust the clock rate. Do not have enough pixels on my display to help you here !!! > > 4. I guess I am going to have to sacrifice all the neat > functionality of the DSP, including modem and sound card services, > since I've not seen anything on the net about support for that > under Linux. > No on-board modem on my Thinkpad but just a PCMCIA one (which seems OK : supported !) -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 09:39:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26887; Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:39:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29795; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:31:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:31:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from micros.micros.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29782; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:31:42 -0400 Received: from smtplink.micros.com by micros.micros.com id aa15429; 31 Jul 95 9:31 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtplink.micros.com id AA807207967; 29 Jul 95 16:26:52 EST Date: 29 Jul 95 16:26:52 EST From: "Gerber, Josh" Message-Id: <9506318072.AA807207967@smtplink.micros.com> To: Michael J Sears , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM PC Outlet The PC Outlet is, in fact, much different from PC Direct. They offer refurbished and new (but very discontinued) equipment at some pretty good prices. I got my 755 Cs from there and was very happy with the deal. Their number is 800-426-7015 and offers a fax-back price list. One caveat, however: don't expect that handy sales-tax exemption for out of state mail orders...IBM has incorporated in all 50 states, therefore, you pay your home state's tax. -j ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: IBM PC Outlet Author: Michael J Sears at SMTPLINK-Micros Date: 7/28/95 2:40 PM Hello all, I've seen a few references here to the "IBM PC Outlet", can someone post the number? Is this different than "IBM PC Direct"? thanks, Michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | ___ | Michael J. Sears, Graduate Student | | ( __ __ __ __ | INTERNET: sears@ecn.purdue.edu | | `-- |--'| || (_ | Department of Agricultural & Biological Engineering | | ___) `-- `--|| __) | Purdue University | | | West Lafayette, Indiana 47907-1146 USA | | | Home Page: http://www.evansville.net/~sears/ | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 09:44:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27258; Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:44:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00609; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:39:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:39:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00599; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:39:34 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (5.65/56) id AA13436; Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:36:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:36:10 -0400 From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <9507311336.AA13436@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu, dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CX 800x600 mode | why the heck are you looking at a 640 x 480 display, why are yuou | not using the 800 x 600 drivers??? Did you read my message? As I said, I can't figure any way to get the Linux SVGA driver to work with 800 x 600. It reports that it has detected a WD90C24, but that it does not know how to use that so it is treating it as a WD90C30. By observation, it is clearly not 100% compatible. For example, one time I run X11 I get clocks: 28.35 28.32 28.73 28.32 28.35 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.35 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.35 28.32 28.32 28.32 31.53 Another time I run it I get: 22.50 28.32 23.77 25.25 22.52 28.32 23.77 25.03 24.34 28.32 23.76 25.03 22.50 28.36 23.77 25.03 25.03 It seems the clocks are programmable, but the WD90C30 driver seems to assume they are not. To use the 800x600 resolution I need a higher dot-clock. Hence, it seems I need to modify the driver. | Also why won't the built-in DSP do anything for you? The DSP drivers are provided for DOS and OS/2. There must be DSP code to provide the various functions, and in principle, one ought to be able to load it with Linux, but the 486-side software is not there. The interface between DSP code and 486-side code does not seem to be one IBM publicizes. --Ted Baker From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 14:08:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17351; Mon, 31 Jul 95 14:08:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21980; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 13:58:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 13:58:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21954; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 13:58:19 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA05295; Mon, 31 Jul 95 13:39:28 EDT Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 13:39:28 EDT From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507311739.AA05295@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu, dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CX 800x600 mode sorry, I completely missed that you were using Linux, yes indeed there are missing drivers here, and the CX does not look like a good choice for Linux until this driver situation is solved. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 14:39:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20343; Mon, 31 Jul 95 14:39:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24949; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 14:30:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 14:30:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24932; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 14:30:48 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA07963 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:30:43 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA06042 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:30:41 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507311830.LAA06042@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: TP755CX 800x600 mode To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:30:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9507302342.AA02400@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Jul 30, 95 07:42:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > why the heck are you looking at a 640 x 480 display, why are yuou not > using the 800 x 600 drivers??? It seemed to me that the gentleman was disappointed because he was trying to use Linux and it was running in 640x480--presumably without an 800x600 driver for the Thinkpad display. > Also why won't the built-in DSP do anything > for you? Probably the same problem--lack of drivers under Linux. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 14:40:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20604; Mon, 31 Jul 95 14:40:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25125; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 14:32:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 14:32:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25108; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 14:32:52 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA08112; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:32:49 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA06277; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:32:46 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507311832.LAA06277@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Win '95 Release Date To: lee@champion.tcs.co.jp (Lee Hounshell) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199507310101.KAA20478@Pion> from "Lee Hounshell" at Jul 31, 95 10:01:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Do you know when Win95 is scheduled for official release? > and/or when it will be generally available in stores? August 24th, I think. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 16:01:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00058; Mon, 31 Jul 95 16:01:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03416; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:48:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:48:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03405; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:48:47 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28274; Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:48:25 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0049; Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:48:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:48:46 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9507311948.AA0049@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:36:10 -0400 from Ted Baker Subject: TP755CX 800x600 mode Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:36:10 -0400 From: Ted Baker As I said, I can't figure any way to get the Linux SVGA driver to work with 800 x 600. It reports that it has detected a WD90C24, but that it does not know how to use that so it is treating it as a WD90C30. By observation, it is clearly not 100% compatible. [...] It seems the clocks are programmable, but the WD90C30 driver seems to assume they are not. To use the 800x600 resolution I need a higher dot-clock. Hence, it seems I need to modify the driver. There is some unusual behavior with the Linux SVGA driver when running on ThinkPads. First, in order to get an accurate clocks list, you must connect an external monitor to the 'Pad. I don't know why this is so, but it has been true for all 'Pads, and presumably is also true for the 755CX. Once you have the clocks list, you can put it in the config file and forget it. It's entirely possible that you can use a clocks list from another 755 model, so if you can't get a proper clocks list for your model, try the list below. There is no functional difference between the wd90c24 and the wd90c30, which is why your 24 is identified as a 30. However, the driver is unable to detect the difference between the wd90c24/wd90c30 and the wd90c24a/wd90c31 -- and this _does_ matter, for performance reasons. Force the use of the wd90c31 by an appropriate "chipset" declaration in the config: Section "Device" Identifier "ThinkPad 755C Video" VendorName "Western Digital" BoardName "Unknown" Chipset "wd90c31" Clocks 25.17 28.32 64.99 35.99 25.18 28.36 65.05 35.99 Clocks 25.18 28.32 64.99 36.00 25.18 28.32 65.06 35.99 Clocks 44.28 VideoRam 1024 EndSection Finally, there are at least two WWW pages for ThinkPads running Linux, and you should check them out for any further hints. I seem to recall that one of them addresses the issues involved with the 755CX video. The first of these is a bit more complete than the second: http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linux.html http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse/linux/ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 16:03:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00070; Mon, 31 Jul 95 16:03:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04174; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:54:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:54:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04163; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:54:40 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28935; Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:54:18 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0050; Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:54:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:54:38 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9507311954.AA0050@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: Cc: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:49:47 +0200 from Subject: TP755CX From: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:49:47 +0200 I have also been disappointed by the Ethernet Card. A few weeks ago, I purchased a Xircom PCMCIA Card. I thought it was supported by the Linux PCMCIA package from David Hinds, but apparently, it is not. There seems to be a problem with Xircom not publishing the technical information about their cards. Checking with the customer service, it seems that we have to buy a developpers kit ! The card does, of course, run under r DOS/Windows but it's useless for me. I think I'd better buy a simple (less efficient) D-Link card which it supported by both operating systems. Actually, buying a developer's kit is insufficient. The problem is that you must sign a non-disclosure agreement in order to get the information necessary to write the driver, which is inconsistent with developing a freeware driver that will be distributed in source-code form. This is a short-sighted decision on the part of XIRCOM and as a result they have completely shut themselves out of the Linux market. It may not be a large market, but revealing that information wouldn't change their market position relative to their competitors, so they have given up some sales without gaining a tangible result in return. If you want a good card that is fully supported in all of the environments that I know of, get the 3com 3c589. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 18:06:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13748; Mon, 31 Jul 95 18:06:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16865; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:56:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:56:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16844; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:56:32 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id XAA14524 (8.6.12/); Mon, 31 Jul 1995 23:55:35 +0200 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 23:55:35 +0200 Message-Id: <199507312155.XAA14524@asimov.cnam.fr> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CX 800x600 mode We linux people need to get the message out to manufacturers that our system has as many users as OS/* :) Edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 22:03:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29573; Mon, 31 Jul 95 22:03:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01666; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 21:53:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 21:53:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01656; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 21:53:03 -0400 Received: (from stanwass@localhost) by ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (8.6.10/8.6.10) id LAA08218; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:51:26 +1000 From: Stanley Wasserman Message-Id: <199508010151.LAA08218@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: Win '95 Release Date To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randal Whittle) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:51:24 +1000 (EST) Cc: lee@champion.tcs.co.jp, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199507311832.LAA06277@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Jul 31, 95 11:32:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all: I do hope that someone will take the time and get WIN95 up and running on a TP (preferably a TP 750, which is what I have), and then share this experience with the entire group. That is -- let us all know what must be done to configure a TP for WIN95! Thanks! SW -> ->> Do you know when Win95 is scheduled for official release? ->> and/or when it will be generally available in stores? -> -> August 24th, I think. -> ->----- ____________________________ ->Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | ->USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | -> "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| -> Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -> -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner -> -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stanley Wasserman University of Illinois Psychology and Statistics Beckman Institute University of Melbourne School of Behavioural Sciences ****************************************************************************** stanwass@uiuc.edu * stanwass@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au * ********************************* * 1 217 333-3325 * 1 217 244-6905 * 1 217 244-5876 (fax) * ******************************************************************************