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Tue Nov 01 15:21:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20576 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 1 Nov 1994 08:57:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12064; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 08:47:13 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 08:47:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12046; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 08:47:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id AA15289 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 1 Nov 1994 23:46:53 +1000 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 23:46:47 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: Re: rss750a*.dsk files Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9410311945.AA00555@amazon.den.mmc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, Karl Yeanoplos wrote: [...stuff deleted...] > Well, you don't really need to, but it's not a bad idea to keep current > with these upgrades, as they include bug fixes as well as occasional > new functionality. I don't see any reason to upgrade incrementally, > however; just skip over versions 1.07 - 1.11 and go directly to V1.13. > I'm just about to do the upgrade myself. Has anyone had any difficulties with 1.13 (ie. should I wait for the next release)? > Good luck, *gulp* From ???@??? Tue Nov 01 15:21:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27910 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 1 Nov 1994 13:53:27 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24189; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 11:19:43 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 11:19:40 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24172; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 11:19:38 -0500 Received: from ppp.shadow.net by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxodt06969; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 11:18:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 94 11:23:17 PST From: Don Whiteside Sender: Don Whiteside Subject: FW: RE: Connector To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII >The hard drive's D connector has 30 pins on each side for a total of 60. >I don't recall how many pins were on the IDE connector on the physical hard >drive. Perhaps someone is willing to pop their drive box open again? No need. You can download the Seagate Desk Reference from their BBS and the 9xxx series in the AT class are 2.5 drives. They have 44 pins instead of the 40 normal on an IDE. The other 4 are just (to the best of my knowledge) the 4 pins on an power connector. I've noticed that on my drive, in addition to the key pin which is removed, there are 2 or 3 (I forgot and didn't write them down) others that are cut on the drive. Curioser and curiouser..... ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Eternal Student Florida International University GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Tue Nov 01 17:55:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11540 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 1 Nov 1994 16:23:24 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17686; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 15:47:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 15:47:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17653; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 15:47:10 -0500 Received: from kress_pc.ciw.edu by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA08862; Tue, 1 Nov 94 15:46:16 EST Message-Id: <9411012046.AA08862@gl.ciw.edu> X-Sender: kress@gl.ciw.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 01 Nov 1994 15:46:15 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Connectors X-Mailer: Well, I just so happen to have my old 170Meg drive, which makes a fine paper weight. This is one of the early(?) drives which has the cable offset problem when updating to the newer high-capacity drives. The connector on the physical drive (without case) looks like this: ppopppppppppoppppppppppppo ppoppppppppppppppppppppppo p=pin o=open The connector has AMP markings, but nothing else. As I recall, the replacement drive had a different model connector, but they might have just shifted all the p's one right. Perhaps someone else who replaced their drive, but did not experience the pin offset problem could look at their old paperweig...er..harddrive and see how it differs. Has anyone located a kit to install these drives in a desktop system? ---------------------------------------------------------- Victor Kress Carnegie Institution of Washington, Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202)686-2410 x2489 ---------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 17:07:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18274 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:48:43 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10814; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:45:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:45:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.core.ntt.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10796; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:45:04 -0500 Received: by mail.core.ntt.jp (8.6.9/COREMAIL.4); Wed, 2 Nov 1994 10:44:57 +0900 Received: by gulag.ntt.jp (8.6.9/core*brl.mx14) with TCP; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 10:44:57 +0900 Received: by will.ntt.jp (4.1/core*brl.s7) with TCP; Wed, 2 Nov 94 10:45:09 JST Message-Id: <9411020145.AA02487@will.ntt.jp> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Volume control of TP750C + OS/2 Date: Wed, 02 Nov 94 10:45:08 +0900 From: IWASAKI Yuzuru I'm using TP750C and OS/2 J2.11 + MMPM/2. I can see three sound volume controls in the desktop. One is in the audio icon in the thinkpad ico. Other two are in the MMPM/2 folder, bell icon and volume control icon. How these controls affect the final output level? I want to reduce the beep sound level (the one same as DOS beep) while other *.wav file based sound level unchanged. ------------------------------------------------- Iwasaki Yuzuru iwasaki@will.NTT.jp ------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 17:07:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21391 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Nov 1994 00:48:30 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18703; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 22:35:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 22:35:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18685; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 22:35:36 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA08315; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 21:35:27 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 22:36:06 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <81366.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Volume control of TP750C + OS/2 In message Wed, 02 Nov 94 10:45:08 +0900, IWASAKI Yuzuru writes: > I'm using TP750C and OS/2 J2.11 + MMPM/2. > I can see three sound volume controls in the desktop. One is in the > audio icon in the thinkpad ico. Other two are in the MMPM/2 folder, > bell icon and volume control icon. How these controls affect the final > output level? I played with these a while back. The audio icon in the Thinkpad folder is the same as Fn-F5/F6. It changes the volume of every sound coming through the speaker. The volume control icon in the MMPM/2 folder controls the volume of all MMPM sounds - sound effects, WAV, but not DOS beeps. The bell icon controls the sound of just the MMPM sound effects (like opening folders, shredding stuff), and has the option of assigning a different volume to each sound. > I want to reduce the beep sound level (the one same as > DOS beep) while other *.wav file based sound level unchanged. I don't see a way to do this. The only way to control the volume of a DOS beep is with the Fn-F5/F6 or the Thinkpad audio icon. Be glad you have at least this much control over the volume, you don't even get this much on a desktop PC. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John H. Kim | "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." jokim@mit.edu | - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' jokim@uni.uiuc.edu | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 17:07:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10026 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Nov 1994 03:28:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08519; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 03:44:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 03:44:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08484; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 03:44:05 -0500 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from odb.rhein-main.de (193.141.47.4) with smtp id ; Wed, 2 Nov 94 09:43 MET Received: from fp.rhein-main.de by odb.rhein-main.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0r2bIK-0003fDC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 09:43 MET Message-Id: X-Sender: uwe@odb.rhein-main.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 09:42:22 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: uwe@odb.rhein-main.de (Tim Vetter) Subject: Re: Hard drive cases/connectors X-Mailer: >>> How about the Thinkpad User's Group Company (THUGCO). > >Interesting idea. Change the name. THUGCO sounds like a pack of hoodlums, >cutthroats, and muggers. It was meant in jest, perhaps some smiley detectors need tuning :-)))) >Actually, all I'd envisoned was putting together a deal to get a bunch of >these cables made, signing up enough people from this group to finance the >order, and disbanding after it was all over. But I suppose most of the >organizational work would coincide with setting up a more permanent >business arrangement. Especially when you consider that on the technical side the accessory game ALL follows the pattern of trivial or off-the-shelf electronics + custom housing + one or more obscure connectors. Witness: hard drive ass'y = small IDE drive + injection-moulded case + some obscure connectors memory card = surface-mounted DRAM + alu (?) sheet case + an obscure connector expansion dock = ISA bus and slots + power supply + inj-mould case + an obscure connector The point is that if someone's gone to the trouble of establishing relations with a connector supplier and a plastics/sheet-metal facility, it's not that much incrementally to extend the product line. Note also that since small-job plastics/sheet fabricators are dime-a-dozen, and the electronic stuff is all grade-school level reverse engineering, sourcing the connectors is really the key to a venture like this. I wonder whether IBM and Toshiba haven't built a shark-filled moat around their connector suppliers to forestall just such an attack ?!? Best, Tim Vetter uwe@odb.rhein-main.de vetter@hookup.net From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 17:07:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27020 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Nov 1994 04:44:22 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04589; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 03:01:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 03:01:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail02.prod.aol.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04566; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 03:01:15 -0500 From: Received: by mail02.prod.aol.net (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA09771; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 03:00:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 03:00:18 -0500 Sender: JGrabow@aol.com Message-Id: <9411020023417353774@aol.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP 750, OS/2 video, hard drives Hello. My name is Wesley Dunaway. I'm a student at Furman University and a new subscriber to the ThinkPad 750 mailing list. I have a TP 750 monochrome with a 170 MB hard drive, a 16MB RAM expansion card, and an Intel 14.4/14.4 Faxmodem. I also have a Port Replicator I. I use OS/2 2.11 and will soon be upgrading to Warp. I have a few questions that I would appreciate input on. I understand that these matters probably have been covered before, but again, I am new. Question 1: There seems to be much discussion regarding replacing the ThinkPad's internal hard drive with other, non-IBM models by opening the exterior case and installing the new drive. Has anyone done this successfully? I would appreciate knowing the manufacturer and model of the replacement drive you used. Has anyone had any bad experiences with IBM support after this seemingly warranty-voiding operation? Question 2: Has anyone found OS/2 video drivers that are faster than the ones shipped by IBM? Maybe someone out there has written drivers. :) The list seems to encompass some technically minded people. I'm using version 1.32 of the IBM drivers with an external monitor at 800x600x256 resolution, and they seem rather slow. Question 3: Has anyone figured out a way to use the ThinkPad's internal audio subsystem with Win-OS/2? Question 4: Has anyone installed Warp on a TP 750 yet? Are there any installation pitfalls I should know about? Again, I would greatly appreciate answers to these questions, and I'm sorry if they have been answered before. Wesley T. Dunaway dunaway_wesley/furman@furman.edu From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 17:07:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01220 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Nov 1994 06:24:37 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24152; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 06:36:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 06:36:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24142; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 06:36:41 -0500 Received: (from wilsony@localhost) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA27635; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 19:36:04 +0800 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 19:36:03 +0800 (SST) From: Wilson Yip Subject: Re: Prices of New 755s To: Robert Dewar Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9410311225.AA13729@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Wilson, you seem to be confused between price and cost. Sure the >cost maybe influenced by the place of manufacture, but the price >is established by the market equilibrium combined with a judgment > I was going to say i would agree with you if there was perfect competition but theres not, theres only product differentiation, but after reading Sean Chou's post there his 750C is made in Mexico, I think you are probably right. .---------------- Wilson Yip ---------------------, | ____ ,__o | Internet: wilsony@singnet.com.sg | | ____ _-\_<, |----------------------------------| | (*)/'(*) | Singapore Fax: (65)225-0032 | `---------------------------------------------------' From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 17:07:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07670 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Nov 1994 07:39:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27380; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 07:30:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 07:30:30 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27359; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 07:30:27 -0500 Received: from [130.235.41.15] (saturnus-5.efd.lth.se) by kobra.efd.lth.se with smtp (perl jhmail 0.20) (rfc1413: f91el@saturnus-5.efd.lth.se) id 2eb78643_4ffd_1 ; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 13:29:56 MET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 13:29:53 +0100 From: Erik Lindahl To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: PCMCIA under NT 3.5? Hi, I'm about to install Windows NT 3.5 on one of our thinkpads (750C). As far as I know, Win NT does not support PCMCIA cards. I remember though, that some months ago someone posted something about a thinkpad disk for WIN NT (3.1 then...) Even if it doesn't contain PCMCIA drivers, I'd be interested.... Anyone who knows where I can get it? (Althoug i prefer OS/2 myself... Warp 3 is NICE!!!) ----------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 17:07:41 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07470 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Nov 1994 11:49:53 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10530; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 10:28:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 10:28:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mailgate.exnet.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10516; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 10:27:54 -0500 Received: from exnet.com (assam.exnet.com) by mailgate.exnet.com with SMTP id AA05746 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 2 Nov 1994 15:27:40 GMT Received: from fonix.UUCP by exnet.com with UUCP id AA15055 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU); Wed, 2 Nov 1994 15:27:35 GMT To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: rss750a*.dsk files From: patrick.whittick@fonix.org (Patrick Whittick) Message-Id: <2641.150.uupcb@fonix.org> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 94 09:26:00 -0100 Organization: FONiX Info Systems ~ Binfield, UK ~ +44 (344) 306986/7/8/9 Reply-To: patrick.whittick@fonix.org (Patrick Whittick) RD>[...stuff deleted...] RD>> Well, you don't really need to, but it's not a bad idea to keep RD>> current with these upgrades, as they include bug fixes as well as RD>> occasional new functionality. I don't see any reason to upgrade RD>> incrementally, however; just skip over versions 1.07 - 1.11 and go RD>> directly to V1.13. RD>I'm just about to do the upgrade myself. Has anyone had any RD>difficulties with 1.13 (ie. should I wait for the next release)? This might appear to be a *really* stupid question, but how does one tell what version of the different utilities are on the machine ? Regards, | Internet: patrick.whittick@fonix.org _or_ | C'serve id: Patrick | PATRICK-WHITTICK-18/417+aIUP%Ford@mcimail.com | 100117.2667 --- . CMPQwk 1.42-13 9237 . So many pedestrians, so little time. ---- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | FONiX Info Systems ~ Binfield, Berkshire UK ~ +44 (0)344 306986 12 lines! | | 9 Gig - RsaNET - ILink - RIME (->FONIX) - FidoNET (2:252/171) | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 17:07:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06411 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Nov 1994 14:57:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29010; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 14:26:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 14:26:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from charlie.ece.scarolina.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28985; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 14:26:25 -0500 Received: by charlie.ece.scarolina.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA08924; Wed, 2 Nov 94 14:26:07 -0500 Received: From ENGR_1/WORKQUEUE by mailgate.engr.scarolina.edu via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.941102142503.480; 02 Nov 94 14:26:22 +500 Message-Id: To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "David N. Rocheleau" Organization: College of Engineering Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 14:24:05 EST Subject: Setup for soundcard Reply-To: rochelea@engr.engr.scarolina.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: WinPMail v1.0 (R2) I have a few questions that I was hoping the group could help me with. How do I respond to the questions when loading applications that use the Soundblaster sound card (or other similar type sound card). Port Address (Port 0220h, 0240h, 0260h, or 0280h) Main IRQ (IRQ 2, 5, 7, or 10) DMA Channel Unit (0, 1, or 3) Thanks. ************************************ David N. Rocheleau Department of Mechanical Engineering 300 South Main Street University of South Carolina Columbia SC 29208 rocheleau-david@scarolina.edu 803|777-9395 (Office) 803|777-0106 (Fax) ************************************ From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 19:01:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12878 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Nov 1994 17:21:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13644; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 16:42:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 16:42:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13627; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 16:42:33 -0500 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from odb.rhein-main.de (193.141.47.4) with smtp id ; Wed, 2 Nov 94 19:13 MET Received: from fp.rhein-main.de by odb.rhein-main.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0r2kBN-0003hOC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 19:13 MET Message-Id: X-Sender: uwe@odb.rhein-main.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 19:11:51 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: uwe@odb.rhein-main.de (Tim Vetter) Subject: NT3.5: Beware video compatibility! X-Mailer: Just looking over the October NT 3.5 Hardware Compatibility List (ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/winnt/winnt-docs/hcl/HCL35/*), and found to my dismay that the entire Thinkpad series, right up to the 755C, is only supported at the all-but-useless (to me) 640x480x16 resolution. And here I had been hoping that the new NT would finally get me out of DOS/Win3.1 hell. Team OS/2 appears to have another member on the way! Best, Tim Vetter Frankfurt uwe@odb.rhein-main.de vetter@hookup.net From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 18:28:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18754 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Nov 1994 19:07:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24511; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 18:56:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 18:56:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24501; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 18:55:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199411022355.SAA24501@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from colt-43.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27823; Wed, 2 Nov 94 17:53:00 -0600 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 94 17:53:00 -0600 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: New format for FAQ? X-Mailer: I'm in the process of redesigning the FAQ, which I will also put online for Web browsing. But I need to recategorize it as the current one seems to chaotic. Anyone care to offer basic categorizations? I was thinking: 1. Hardware Machine specs Battery PCMCIA 2. Expansion Ports and docks Memory Hard drive 3. Operating Systems DOS & Windows OS/2 Linux Other 4. Known problems I also plan to cover all the Thinkpad models that include multimedia. That's sort of the minimum. If people would like TP700 or TP720 info included, then I invite you to write it and send it to me to be included. If you have any suggestions or pointers, I welcome them. And as usual, I'll post to the group as well as provide an FTP site. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 18:28:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05126 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 01:50:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21382; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 02:05:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 02:05:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21338; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 02:04:58 -0500 Received: from localhost by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id AA22499 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 17:04:49 +1000 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 17:04:43 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson To: tp750 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just saw an ad for an external IBM drive. "IBM Spitfire. 1Gb Fast SCSI-II hard disk external" it's selling for $1450 here in Australia which isn't a bad price. Does anyone know what the throughput would be through a PCMCIA SCSI card. Is the performance drop substantial? From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 18:28:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14028 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 03:18:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27138; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 03:24:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 03:24:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27127; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 03:24:03 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA00830; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 02:24:00 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 03:24:40 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <12280.jokim@mit.edu> To: cs322612@mailbox.uq.oz.au, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: In message Thu, 3 Nov 1994 17:04:43 +1000 (GMT+1000), Rohan Davidson writes: > it's selling for $1450 here in Australia which isn't a bad price. Does > anyone know what the throughput would be through a PCMCIA SCSI card. Is > the performance drop substantial? Ignoring all the stuff PCMCIA requires in memory, it operates as a 16-bit ISA slot. I don't remember the specs on that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John H. Kim | "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." jokim@mit.edu | - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' jokim@uni.uiuc.edu | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 18:28:34 1994 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27989 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 04:32:54 -0600 Received: (from wilsony@localhost) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA08491; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 18:33:06 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 18:33:06 +0800 (SST) From: Wilson Yip Subject: Re: Prices of New 755s To: Sean Chou In-Reply-To: <199411010731.PAA22628@merlion.singnet.com.sg> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >I don't know about the newer models, but my TP750C came from >Mexico. > Sean, thanks for telling me this, my 750C is from Japan so I had assumed incorrectly that all TPs are from Japan. BTW can you give me your advice on selling my 750C since you have sucessfully sold off yours? My problem is that I live in Singapore, there is no market here for second hand TPs, did you sell off yours in the CompuServe Thinkpad Forum? I subscribed to Compuserve last year but came off it this year. What sort of prices do you think it could fetch with 4 meg ram and a 340 hard disk? Does the buyer pay first? Would the buyer be able to obtain EasyServ by taking over? Does buyer pay freight? Sorry to load you with these questions, I hope you dont mind. If I can sell if off I can look forward to buying the 755CE. Do you have a vendor you can recommend for this because at the moment prices here are more than what obtains in the US. Regards Wilson .---------------- Wilson Yip ---------------------, | ____ ,__o | Internet: wilsony@singnet.com.sg | | ____ _-\_<, |----------------------------------| | (*)/'(*) | Singapore Fax: (65)225-0032 | `---------------------------------------------------' From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 18:28:36 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01820 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 04:42:51 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05726; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 04:58:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 04:58:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mfmail.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05716; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 04:58:13 -0500 From: Received: from ibm3172e.mfltd.co.uk by mfmail.mfltd.co.uk with SMTP (5.65/25-eef) id AA20227; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:57:02 GMT Message-Id: <9411030957.AA20227@mfmail.mfltd.co.uk> Received: from NWB.RSCS by NWB.MFLTD.CO.UK (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8655; Thu, 03 Nov 94 09:56:36 GMT Date: Thu, 03 Nov 94 09:56:35 GMT To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: NT3.5: Beware video compatibility! ======================================================================= From: D. Gwyn Jones Fileshare 2 development, Products Group. DGJ at NWB, GBHFFWHF at IBMMAIL, e-mail: dgj@mfltd.co.uk Subject: NT3.5: Beware video compatibility! I also hear on Microsoft's Compuserv NT forum, that they are supplying NO PCMCIA drivers with NT. They are relying on PCMCIA manufacturers to supply them. I assume this is true for Win95/Chicago too, although any that manufacturers provide which use the Win32 API should work with both Chicago and NT. Long live OS/2! Regards, Gwyn. Micro Focus Ltd Tel. (44) (0)1635 565294 26 West Street Fax. (44) (0)1635 565567 Extension 5294 Newbury RG13 1JT U.K. *** Forwarding note from IBMSMTP --NWB 11/02/94 22:11 *** Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 19:11:51 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: uwe@odb.rhein-main.de (Tim Vetter) Subject: NT3.5: Beware video compatibility! Just looking over the October NT 3.5 Hardware Compatibility List (ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/winnt/winnt-docs/hcl/HCL35/*), and found to my dismay that the entire Thinkpad series, right up to the 755C, is only supported at the all-but-useless (to me) 640x480x16 resolution. And here I had been hoping that the new NT would finally get me out of DOS/Win3.1 hell. Team OS/2 appears to have another member on the way! Best, Tim Vetter Frankfurt uwe@odb.rhein-main.de vetter@hookup.net From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 18:28:49 1994 Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27885 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 15:44:23 -0600 Received: by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09595; Thu, 3 Nov 94 13:32:07 PST Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 13:32:07 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411032132.AA09595@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New format for FAQ In-Reply-To: Mail from 'kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos)' dated: Thu, 3 Nov 94 12:17:51 MST Cc: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Sean, You might want to mention that if you are running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 with the IBM Ethernet card, you _MUST_ get the most recent driver (v 2.03 ) off the IBM BBS. I spent an entire day trying to get this to work before I tried the BBS. Makes you feel really stupid for wasting your time! Also, do you have the 755 Technical Reference Manual (P/N 83G7843)? There is a lot of good stuff in this manual that should be included in the FAQ, especially the pinouts for the internal hard disk connector, the pinouts for the PCMCIA ports, and the pinouts for the external bus connector. Robert | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 18:28:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28560 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:56:11 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28563; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:02:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:02:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28546; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:02:34 -0500 Received: by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08855; Thu, 3 Nov 94 13:04:38 PST Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 13:04:38 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411032104.AA08855@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: NT3.5: Beware video compatibility! In-Reply-To: Mail from '' dated: Thu, 03 Nov 94 09:56:35 GMT > I also hear on Microsoft's Compuserv NT forum, that they are supplying NO > PCMCIA drivers with NT. They are relying on PCMCIA manufacturers to supply > them. I assume this is true for Win95/Chicago too, although any that > manufacturers provide which use the Win32 API should work with both Chicago > and NT. Actually, there is an article in last month's Computer Shopper about how Microsoft is agressively persuing native PCMCIA support as part of their Plug n' Play concept. I also saw a picture in (Byte?) of the PCMCIA support in Chicago -- it looked like a snazzy version of EZ-Play. | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 18:28:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04138 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 17:11:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01301; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:36:29 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:36:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01291; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:36:26 -0500 Received: by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09787; Thu, 3 Nov 94 13:38:39 PST Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 13:38:39 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411032138.AA09787@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: PCMCIA Bandwidth In-Reply-To: Mail from '"John H. Kim" ' dated: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 03:24:40 -0500 (EST) > Ignoring all the stuff PCMCIA requires in memory, it operates as a 16-bit > ISA slot. I don't remember the specs on that. The PCMCIA uses a 26-bit address, 16-bit data bus which operates at 25Mhz -- this is quite faster than ISA. At 25Mhz a 16-bit bus should be capable of 50MBytes/sec. Does anyone have any throughput specifications for bandwidth through all the socket services??? | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 18:28:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09265 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 17:24:35 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01960; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:43:22 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:43:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01949; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:43:16 -0500 Received: by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09961; Thu, 3 Nov 94 13:45:16 PST Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 13:45:16 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411032145.AA09961@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Setup for soundcard In-Reply-To: Mail from '"David N. Rocheleau" ' dated: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 14:24:05 EST Cc: ROCHELEA@engr.engr.scarolina.edu David, > I have a few questions that I was hoping the group could help me > with. > > How do I respond to the questions when loading applications that use > the Soundblaster sound card (or other similar type sound card). > Port Address (Port 0220h, 0240h, 0260h, or 0280h) > Main IRQ (IRQ 2, 5, 7, or 10) > DMA Channel Unit (0, 1, or 3) > The default settings for the ThinkPad 755 is I/O address 0030-003F, IRQ 10, with DMA channel 0 for playback and DMA 1 for capture. The I/O space is selectable to 4E30,8E30,CE30. The IRQ can be set to IRQ 5, IRQ11, and IRQ 15. Unfortunately, you'll find that the audio is incompatible with most DOS based games. Has anyone every gotten DOOM to work on a ThinkPad ??? :) | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Wed Nov 02 19:46:50 1994 Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02034 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 18:39:15 -0600 Received: by gnat.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA09220; Thu, 3 Nov 94 19:38:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 19:38:52 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9411040038.AA09220@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard DOOM works more or less OK on my Thinkpad From ???@??? Fri Nov 04 02:31:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15073 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:22:04 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12240; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:05:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:05:42 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from paxman.arc.nasa.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12224; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:05:39 -0500 From: Received: from localhost.arc.nasa.gov by paxman.arc.nasa.gov (8.6.8/1.5T) id QAA15003; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:05:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199411040005.QAA15003@paxman.arc.nasa.gov> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 03 Nov 94 16:01:12 PST." Date: Thu, 03 Nov 94 16:05:30 -0800 Status: U > This is setable (and checkable) under the: > > ThinkPad Features -> > System Info -> > More... -> > Advance > dialogs. Sorry... that's under OS/2... I keep forgetting that there are others that have to live with just DOS. Warren Van Camp. NASA Science Internet From ???@??? Fri Nov 04 02:31:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17380 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:30:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12316; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:08:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:08:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12304; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:08:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199411040008.TAA12304@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from ruger-34.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23622; Thu, 3 Nov 94 18:05:13 -0600 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 18:05:13 -0600 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: New format for FAQ X-Mailer: Status: U > You might want to mention that if you are running Windows for >Workgroups 3.11 with the IBM Ethernet card, you _MUST_ get the most recent >driver (v 2.03 ) off the IBM BBS. Okay, will do! > Also, do you have the 755 Technical Reference Manual (P/N 83G7843)? >There is a lot of good stuff in this manual that should be included in the >FAQ, especially the pinouts for the internal hard disk connector, the >pinouts for the PCMCIA ports, and the pinouts for the external bus >connector. Alas, no I do not. If you could provide the info or someone else, I will be glad to put it in. Anyone who does it should be aware that I will be formatting it at 70 characters (as I always have). --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Fri Nov 04 02:31:07 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19575 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:38:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12524; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:11:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:11:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12514; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:11:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199411040011.TAA12514@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from ruger-34.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23911; Thu, 3 Nov 94 18:08:21 -0600 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 18:08:21 -0600 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard X-Mailer: Status: U >The default settings for the ThinkPad 755 is I/O address 0030-003F, IRQ 10, >with DMA channel 0 for playback and DMA 1 for capture. >Unfortunately, you'll find that the audio is incompatible with most DOS based >games. True enough. The ones that do generally work in my experience have been the ones that automatically find the right configuration (such as Wolfenstein). And of the ones that don't auto-config, most any setting will work (if it'll work at all). I'm curious as to what the new DSP card will be like. >Has anyone every gotten DOOM to work on a ThinkPad ??? :) Just have to wait for DOOM/2. That'll be reason alone for TP owners everywhere to switch over... :) --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Fri Nov 04 02:31:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08331 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 20:48:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16815; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 20:21:30 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 20:21:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from iss.nus.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16805; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 20:21:25 -0500 Received: from grape.iss.nus.sg by iss.nus.sg (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12778; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 09:24:33 +0800 From: kcheong@iss.nus.sg (Kevin Cheong) Message-Id: <9411040124.AA12778@iss.nus.sg> Subject: Re: New format for FAQ? (fwd) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 09:24:32 +0800 (SST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, Forwarded message: > > I'm in the process of redesigning the FAQ..... > > If you have any suggestions or pointers, I welcome them. ... ... ... > How about a category for Thinkpad-related > phone numbers and other miscellaneous info such as FTP sites, BBS no.'s, > Compu$erve forums, etc? > Useful phone numbers might include: > IBM - Technical Support, EasyServe, IBM Direct. > Third Party Vendors - Sigma Data, Kingston, Megahertz, THUGCO (!). > FTP Sites: CICA, Hobbes, ftp.pcco.ibm.com > BBS no.'s: IBM, Megahertz, etc. > Compuserve Forums: Thinkpad, OS2, etc. > Plus whatever else might be useful...you get the idea. I'll be happy > to supply the appropriate info if everyone thinks it's worth doing. > _________________________________________________________________ > Karl E. Yeanoplos | (kyeanopl@den.mmc.com) Related stuff.. yes, Info on where to get info about setting up or running say Linux on the TP's etc. That would be great! cheers, . kevin cheong nlp program iss nus singapore . From ???@??? Fri Nov 04 02:31:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12999 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 21:05:07 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11987; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:01:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:01:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from paxman.arc.nasa.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11977; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:01:19 -0500 From: Received: from localhost.arc.nasa.gov by paxman.arc.nasa.gov (8.6.8/1.5T) id QAA14990; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:01:12 -0800 Message-Id: <199411040001.QAA14990@paxman.arc.nasa.gov> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 03 Nov 94 13:45:16 PST." <9411032145.AA09961@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 94 16:01:12 -0800 > > How do I respond to the questions when loading applications that use > > the Soundblaster sound card (or other similar type sound card). > > Port Address (Port 0220h, 0240h, 0260h, or 0280h) > > Main IRQ (IRQ 2, 5, 7, or 10) > > DMA Channel Unit (0, 1, or 3) > > The default settings for the ThinkPad 755 is I/O address 0030-003F, IRQ 10, > with DMA channel 0 for playback and DMA 1 for capture. > > The I/O space is selectable to 4E30,8E30,CE30. > > The IRQ can be set to IRQ 5, IRQ11, and IRQ 15. This is setable (and checkable) under the: ThinkPad Features -> System Info -> More... -> Advance dialogs. Warren Van Camp NASA Science Internet From ???@??? Fri Nov 04 02:31:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17305 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 21:17:24 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19580; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 21:05:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 21:05:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ZCIAS1.ZIFF.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19554; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 21:05:40 -0500 Received: from MAIL.ZD.ZIFF.COM by zcias1.ziff.com (PMDF V4.3-7 #6906) id <01HJ21QQWT28005LK6@zcias1.ziff.com>; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 21:05:17 EDT Date: Thu, 03 Nov 1994 20:41 -0500 (EST) From: AGross@MAIL.ZD.ziff.com (AGross) Subject: CD player / Dock I To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HJ21QQYY82005LK6@zcias1.ziff.com> X-Envelope-To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT The CD playing program that comes with the Dock I doesn't appear to have a volume control. Is it possible to control the volume? Is there another program that would do a better job? TIA. Andrew E. Gross From ???@??? Fri Nov 04 02:31:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17589 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 21:18:32 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12268; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:06:30 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:06:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12254; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:06:20 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0r3C9e-0004tsC; Thu, 3 Nov 94 18:05 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0r3C9c-0009btC; Thu, 3 Nov 94 18:05 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3C9c-0002wvC; Thu, 3 Nov 94 18:05 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard To: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 18:05:15 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9411032145.AA09961@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> from "Robert George" at Nov 3, 94 01:45:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Has anyone every gotten DOOM to work on a ThinkPad ??? :) Not possible as the audio driver takes a trap on writes to the locations normally associated with sound cards. Doom pushes aside the audio driver. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Fri Nov 04 02:31:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18263 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 21:20:30 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12073; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:03:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:02:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12057; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:02:55 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0r3C6L-0004tsC; Thu, 3 Nov 94 18:01 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0r3C6J-0009bsC; Thu, 3 Nov 94 18:01 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3C6I-0002wvC; Thu, 3 Nov 94 18:01 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: PCMCIA Bandwidth To: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 18:01:50 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9411032138.AA09787@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> from "Robert George" at Nov 3, 94 01:38:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The PCMCIA uses a 26-bit address, 16-bit data bus which operates at 25Mhz -- > this is quite faster than ISA. At 25Mhz a 16-bit bus should be capable of > 50MBytes/sec. > > Does anyone have any throughput specifications for bandwidth through all > the socket services??? > > Remember what bus is behind the PCMCIA socket controller. That is currently the limiting factor for PCMCIA (i.e. ISA). -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Fri Nov 04 02:31:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28231 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Nov 1994 23:39:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29294; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 23:31:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 23:31:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29282; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 23:31:24 -0500 Received: from ppp.shadow.net by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxona26216; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 23:31:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 23:34:13 PST From: Don Whiteside Sender: Don Whiteside Subject: Bus connector plug To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Also, do you have the 755 Technical Reference Manual (P/N 83G7843)? >There is a lot of good stuff in this manual that should be included in the >FAQ, especially the pinouts for the internal hard disk connector, the >pinouts for the PCMCIA ports, and the pinouts for the external bus >connector. Speaking of which - I'd like to buy the manual if I can get a plug for the bus connector and make my own port replacator. (I know it won't end up being much cheaper, but what the hell...) Has anyone found a source for these things? Or can I buy it straight from IBM? ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Eternal Student Florida International University GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Fri Nov 04 03:33:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00436 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Nov 1994 02:21:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11195; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 02:29:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 02:29:34 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11175; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 02:29:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199411040729.CAA11175@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from ruger-38.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25639; Fri, 4 Nov 94 01:26:35 -0600 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 94 01:26:35 -0600 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard X-Mailer: Robert Dewar said: >DOOM works more or less OK on my Thinkpad I'm almost positive he means with sounds. Unless, of course, you managed to get sounds under the TP755C. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Fri Nov 04 03:33:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00828 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Nov 1994 02:24:24 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11361; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 02:33:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 02:33:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11351; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 02:33:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199411040733.CAA11351@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from ruger-38.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25839; Fri, 4 Nov 94 01:30:19 -0600 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 94 01:30:19 -0600 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: New format for FAQ? (fwd) X-Mailer: >Related stuff.. yes, Info on where to get info about setting up or running >say Linux on the TP's etc. That would be great! Yup, I will also be including a section on where to get support -- phone numbers, ftp sites, bbs's, etc. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 13:49:52 1994 Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28187 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Nov 1994 06:24:15 -0600 Received: by gnat.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA02157; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:23:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:23:52 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9411041223.AA02157@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard "I'm almost positive he means with sounds. UNless, of course, you managed to get sounds under the TP755C" I am having trouble parsing this comment. Is there perhaps a missing "not" in the first sentence? Anyway, to clarify, on a 755C, I run DOOM in a DOS window under OS/2 with sounds and music, I use the Adlib setting for the Music card, and the PC SPeaker for Sounds FX, the latter is of course not great, but the overall effect is quite reasonable. From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 13:49:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28479 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Nov 1994 09:32:27 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12841; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 09:03:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 09:03:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pobox.ucs.umass.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12829; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 09:03:53 -0500 Received: from twain.ucs.umass.edu by pobox.ucs.umass.edu (PMDF V4.3-8 #6523) id <01HJ2QUMEG9S00DRCY@pobox.ucs.umass.edu>; Fri, 04 Nov 1994 09:03:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (harmatz@localhost) by twain.ucs.umass.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id JAA14032 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 09:03:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 04 Nov 1994 09:03:49 -0500 (EST) From: MORTON G HARMATZ Subject: For Sale IBM TP 750C To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199411041403.JAA14032@twain.ucs.umass.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a new 755C so I'm selling my almost new 750C (active matrix screen - 10.4"). This computer is under IBM warranty until 4/97! The standard configuration is 4meg ram and 170 meg hard drive but I have a 4meg Kingston parity memory DRAM card and IBM 340 meg drive. Depending on the configuration you want - $3900 to $4600 or BO. You can email me at Harmatz@psych.umass.edu or if you need more info call me at 413 256 6028. From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 13:49:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17322 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Nov 1994 12:32:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26895; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:36:54 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:36:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26876; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:36:48 -0500 Received: by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00531; Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:38:50 PST Date: Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:38:50 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411041638.AA00531@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard In-Reply-To: Mail from 'ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou)' dated: Thu, 3 Nov 94 18:08:21 -0600 > >The default settings for the ThinkPad 755 is I/O address 0030-003F, IRQ 10, > >with DMA channel 0 for playback and DMA 1 for capture. > > >Unfortunately, you'll find that the audio is incompatible with most DOS based > >games. > > True enough. The ones that do generally work in my experience > have been the ones that automatically find the right configuration > (such as Wolfenstein). And of the ones that don't auto-config, > most any setting will work (if it'll work at all). > > I'm curious as to what the new DSP card will be like. > > >Has anyone every gotten DOOM to work on a ThinkPad ??? :) > > Just have to wait for DOOM/2. That'll be reason alone for TP > owners everywhere to switch over... :) I've been playing DOOM2 on my 755C for a month now! The sound _still_ won't work! :( BTW, its more entertaining to see the expressions on the faces of the people next to you on the plane when they see DOOM running on a 10" active matrix color display... | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 13:49:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20960 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Nov 1994 12:41:34 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29952; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 12:06:22 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 12:06:21 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from booz.bah.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29939; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 12:06:17 -0500 Received: from smtpjii.bah.com (smtpjii.bah.com [156.80.9.162]) by booz.bah.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA01298 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:59:29 -0500 Received: by smtpjii.bah.com with Microsoft Mail id <2EBA934F@smtpjii.bah.com>; Fri, 04 Nov 94 12:02:23 PST From: Phillips Ted To: tp750 Subject: SYSTPS.EXE Version 1.15 Date: Fri, 04 Nov 94 12:00:00 PST Message-Id: <2EBA934F@smtpjii.bah.com> Encoding: 9 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I just found the Thinkpad System Program Service update version 1.15. The last one I heard about was 1.13. Two questions: First, what happened to 1.14? And second, are there any problems installing this update? I passed on the 1.13 upgrade because of problems voiced here. Has anyone tried the 1.15 update yet? Cheerio! P:\Ted From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 13:50:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24108 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Nov 1994 12:49:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27825; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:46:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:46:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27815; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:46:36 -0500 Received: by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00794; Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:48:45 PST Date: Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:48:45 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411041648.AA00794@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard In-Reply-To: Mail from 'dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)' dated: Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:23:52 -0500 > "I'm almost positive he means with sounds. UNless, of course, you > managed to get sounds under the TP755C" > > I am having trouble parsing this comment. Is there perhaps a missing "not" > in the first sentence? > > Anyway, to clarify, on a 755C, I run DOOM in a DOS window under OS/2 with > sounds and music, I use the Adlib setting for the Music card, and the > PC SPeaker for Sounds FX, the latter is of course not great, but the > overall effect is quite reasonable. I'm amazed that you got even the music to work, especially under DOS emulation with OS/2. I guess I'll take another shot at this tonight! Robert | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 13:50:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09763 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Nov 1994 15:39:53 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10109; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 14:31:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 14:31:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10078; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 14:31:03 -0500 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxooz20752; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 12:15:06 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03939; Fri, 4 Nov 94 09:09:59 PST Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA29357; Fri, 4 Nov 94 09:16:02 PST Received: from localhost by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24541; Fri, 4 Nov 94 09:12:52 PST Message-Id: <9411041712.AA24541@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard X-Mailer: exmh version 1.4 6/24/94 Date: Fri, 04 Nov 94 09:12:51 -0800 From: Bruce Reed > > >Has anyone every gotten DOOM to work on a ThinkPad ??? :) > > > > Just have to wait for DOOM/2. That'll be reason alone for TP > > owners everywhere to switch over... :) > > I've been playing DOOM2 on my 755C for a month now! The sound _still_ > won't work! :( I think you're confusing DOOM 2.0 for DOS with DOOM for OS/2, or DOOM/2. Supposedly a native OS/2 version is in the works. --Bruce From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 13:50:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00874 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Nov 1994 16:33:53 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13560; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 15:32:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 15:32:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from banner.cs.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13547; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 15:32:07 -0500 Received: by banner.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA08894; Fri, 4 Nov 94 15:31:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 94 15:31:41 -0500 From: dewar@banner.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9411042031.AA08894@banner.cs.nyu.edu> To: bruce@objy.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard sorry, of course I meant DOOM when I said DOOM2, my finger picked up the 2 from the "just have to wait message". Sorry for the confusion, yes indeed, I am playing the original doom with music and sound as I described on a 755C (which is what the original question was about) From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 13:50:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13570 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Nov 1994 20:41:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19869; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 16:55:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 16:55:42 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19846; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 16:55:38 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA03471; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 15:55:33 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 16:56:13 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <60973.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard In message Fri, 04 Nov 94 09:12:51 -0800, Bruce Reed writes: > I think you're confusing DOOM 2.0 for DOS with DOOM for OS/2, or > DOOM/2. Supposedly a native OS/2 version is in the works. Oh, it exists all right. The guy whose company is doing the port spoke at the last OS/2 user's group meeting here at MIT. It's not as fast as under DOS, but it looked impressive with decent speed. It's supposed to be out by the end of the year. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John H. Kim | "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." jokim@mit.edu | - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' jokim@uni.uiuc.edu | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 13:50:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13585 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Nov 1994 20:41:24 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19003; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 16:44:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 16:43:59 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18988; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 16:43:45 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA03007; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 15:43:27 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 16:44:07 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <60247.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard In message Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:48:45 PST, george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) writes: >> Anyway, to clarify, on a 755C, I run DOOM in a DOS window under OS/2 >> with sounds and music, I use the Adlib setting for the Music card, and >> the PC SPeaker for Sounds FX, the latter is of course not great, but > I'm amazed that you got even the music to work, especially under DOS > emulation with OS/2. I've run across a handful of programs whose soundcard support works under an OS/2 DOS box, but not under DOS. I suspect OS/2 may be doing a better job of tricking the software into thinking there's a real sound card installed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John H. Kim | "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." jokim@mit.edu | - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' jokim@uni.uiuc.edu | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 13:50:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14445 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Nov 1994 20:45:36 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04339; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 20:50:29 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 20:50:27 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom10.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04316; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 20:50:22 -0500 From: Received: by netcom10.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id RAA17723; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 17:51:03 -0800 Message-Id: <199411050151.RAA17723@netcom10.netcom.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard Date: 4 Nov 1994 13:21:55 Organization: spine.com Reply-To: jesse@netcom.com On Thu, 3 Nov 94 18:08:21 -0600 ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) wrote: > Just have to wait for DOOM/2. That'll be reason alone for TP > owners everywhere to switch over... :) You mean doom2 will work with tp sound?!? -- ________________________________________________________________________ Jesse Montrose jesse@netcom.com jesse@xaostools.com cis:76646,3302 I don't recycle, I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume. From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 13:50:23 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15101 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Nov 1994 23:34:33 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14040; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 23:32:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 23:32:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14030; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 23:32:45 -0500 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA14409 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 23:32:39 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 23:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs24.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 23:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs24.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 23:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Nov..4.1993.10.47.44.sun4c.411.EzMail.PC.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.pcs24.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.pcs24.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 23:32:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 23:32:23 -0500 (EST) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: memory upgrade for tp 755Cs I'm looking for memory upgrade for my 755Cs 16meg IC-DRAM any suggestions and price? thanks in advance ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sang Kim I want the world to know that I sk6k@andrew.cmu.edu LOVE Alexis Hayes, the babe from University of Denver. (wow, what a knockout!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 13:50:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23039 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Nov 1994 00:27:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17475; Sat, 5 Nov 1994 00:21:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 5 Nov 1994 00:21:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17465; Sat, 5 Nov 1994 00:21:06 -0500 From: Received: from MARINARA.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA13125; Sat, 5 Nov 94 00:20:51 EST Received: by marinara.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA03844; Sat, 5 Nov 94 00:20:51 -0500 Message-Id: <9411050520.AA03844@marinara.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: PCMCIA and Linux (Again...) Date: Sat, 05 Nov 1994 00:20:50 EST Well, it's me again... I have a megahertz XJ2144 and when i first got the modem, I installed the pcmcia drivers for linux and things were great. I upgraded to v1.1.55 and then 1.159 (the floppy drivers work great) but then found that cardmgr would not recognize the Modem and instead would load the pcmem modules instead... The modem works under DOS. I have tried everything i can think of. I rebuilt the 1.1.45 kernel, no luck, upgraded to 1.1.49 and lo luck (this is what i was running before) recompiled the modules, the pcmcia drivers (both versions 2.2.2 and 2.2.3) I've also tried kernels 1.1.52, 55 and 59 to no avail... It seems as if it can't get the correct info from the modem. If i try to force the load up of serial_cs as the module, it get's loaded but the modem is not recognized... Please Help :( I'm really going nuts in here... Hot swapping and others... BTW if i remove the card, cardmgr recognizes this and removes the pcmem module, but as i reinsert, it loads the pcmem driver again! Thanks in advance... Art (ajm1@mit.edu) From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 13:50:29 1994 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01679 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Nov 1994 06:45:16 -0600 Received: (from wilsony@localhost) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA28104; Sat, 5 Nov 1994 20:45:29 +0800 Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 20:45:28 +0800 (SST) From: Wilson Yip Subject: Re: Prices of New 755s To: Sean Chou In-Reply-To: <199411040001.IAA05340@merlion.singnet.com.sg> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Sean, Thanks for your very informative reply. I have decided to bypass the upgrade this time, maybe next time round when the thinkpads have the pentium chip. You have been very kind in responding. Thanks also for your work in preparing the FAQ here. Its great. Regards Wilson .---------------- Wilson Yip ---------------------, | ____ ,__o | Internet: wilsony@singnet.com.sg | | ____ _-\_<, |----------------------------------| | (*)/'(*) | Singapore Fax: (65)225-0032 | `---------------------------------------------------' From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 22:03:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15766 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Nov 1994 14:10:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04241; Sun, 6 Nov 1994 13:55:22 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Nov 1994 13:55:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04221; Sun, 6 Nov 1994 13:55:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199411061855.NAA04221@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from colt-57.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25926; Sun, 6 Nov 94 12:52:20 -0600 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 94 12:52:20 -0600 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard X-Mailer: >I've run across a handful of programs whose soundcard support works under >an OS/2 DOS box, but not under DOS. I suspect OS/2 may be doing a better >job of tricking the software into thinking there's a real sound card >installed. If nothing else, the memory management is infinately better and it's easier to get out of situations if (when) it crashes... --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 22:03:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18109 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Nov 1994 14:20:31 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04321; Sun, 6 Nov 1994 13:56:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Nov 1994 13:56:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04311; Sun, 6 Nov 1994 13:56:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199411061856.NAA04311@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from colt-57.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25970; Sun, 6 Nov 94 12:53:25 -0600 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 94 12:53:25 -0600 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: Setup for soundcard X-Mailer: >You mean doom2 will work with tp sound?!? DOOM/2 and DOOM/Win will use the sound drivers of their respective operating systems (let's not argue whether or not Windows is an authentic OS). So yes, they should work with the TP's. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 22:03:23 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18185 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Nov 1994 14:20:54 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04164; Sun, 6 Nov 1994 13:52:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Nov 1994 13:52:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04154; Sun, 6 Nov 1994 13:52:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199411061852.NAA04154@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from colt-57.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25686; Sun, 6 Nov 94 12:49:23 -0600 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 94 12:49:23 -0600 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: DOOM on TP X-Mailer: >BTW, its more entertaining to see the expressions on the faces of the people >next to you on the plane when they see DOOM running on a 10" active matrix >color display... Just wait for DOOM/2 or DOOM/Win and you get great sounds! --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Sun Nov 06 13:50:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13558 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Nov 1994 20:41:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29244; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 19:30:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 19:30:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from expert.cc.purdue.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29230; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 19:30:09 -0500 Received: by expert.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA26192; Fri, 4 Nov 94 19:30:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 94 19:30:06 -0500 From: jollymon@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Jason) Message-Id: <9411050030.AA26192@expert.cc.purdue.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU I was wondering if someone could either post or send me the name and phone number of the company that is selling hard drives for the TP755. I know that IBM does not have any hard drives in stock, but I am in need of a new drive as my 170Mb disk is almost full. If you happen to know the prices of said hard drives please include those also. Thank You Jason Sethi jollymon@expert.cc.purdue.edu sethi@en.ecn.purdue.edu From ???@??? Mon Nov 07 11:30:18 1994 Received: from faroe.vp.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07856 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Nov 1994 09:42:37 -0600 Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by faroe.vp.uiuc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA18486; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 09:41:54 -0600 Received: from Virginia.EDU by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa17583; 7 Nov 94 10:31 EST Received: from scunix5.harvard.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa17575; 7 Nov 94 10:30 EST Received: from fas by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 10:30:36 -0500 Received: by fas (5.0/16.2) id AA20647; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 10:28:57 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 10:28:55 -0500 (EST) From: James Goodman Subject: miscellaneous To: ibm-tp500@virginia.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 357 Is the Thinkpad supposed to come with extra Trackpoint tips? Is it possible to replace the tip when it wears out. Is it possible to back up a new Thinkpad's entire hard disk, all those bundled programs, to a tape drive, instead of scores of floppy disks? Sorry for this nit-picking questions. I am new to this machine, and IBM portables in general. From ???@??? Mon Nov 07 13:35:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17048 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Nov 1994 13:18:49 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03745; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 12:37:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 12:37:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03734; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 12:37:18 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA02778; Mon, 7 Nov 94 10:36:40 MST Date: Mon, 7 Nov 94 10:36:40 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9411071736.AA02778@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Warp/APM woes I got the Warp GA up and running on my 360 this weekend, and I'm generally pretty happy with the exception of some power management problems. First the good stuff - Warp installed with no problems and correctly sensed all installed hardware. APM was automatically installed, the PCMCIA drivers were all installed and configured correctly, and SVGA video drivers were even installed without having to endure the selective install routine. Warp is MUCH faster than the 2.1 release, and seems quite responsive even on my underpowered TP360 (486/SX33). Overall, I'd say it's a winner, and definitely a great value thanks to the included software bundle (bonus pack). Now the not-so-good stuff - Power management problems abound, all related to running on AC power. The machine enters suspend mode OK but will not recover without pushing the reset button (restart). This is really a pain due to the fact that I'm in the habit of putting my machine in suspend so that I can install the battery prior to entering hibernation. (This is a work-around for the AC power related bug which causes system hang when attempting to access a PCMCIA device following hibernation.) Since suspend now also locks the machine, the only way to safely hibernate is to turn the machine off, install the battery, restart the computer, and then enter hibernation. With OS/2 boot times being what they are, this just takes WAY too long. Can anyone else verify these problems? I want to make sure that it isn't just me before I call IBM to demand a fix. It seems like we've been living with these problems long enough, and let's face it - the power management schemes are useless if they force a machine restart every time you use them. Thanks, _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | (kyeanopl@den.mmc.com) Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | "True perfection can be Denver, CO. 80201 | found in the details" From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:31:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25506 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Nov 1994 18:00:30 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29136; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 17:22:35 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 17:22:34 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29126; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 17:22:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199411072222.RAA29126@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15442; Mon, 7 Nov 94 17:21:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 94 17:21:55 -0500 From: Chris Hanson To: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9411071736.AA02778@amazon.den.mmc.com> (kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com) Subject: Re: Warp/APM woes Date: Mon, 7 Nov 94 10:36:40 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Warp installed with no problems and correctly sensed all installed hardware. APM was automatically installed, the PCMCIA drivers were all installed and configured correctly, and SVGA video drivers were even installed without having to endure the selective install routine. This is completely correct. However, I'd like to point out that it's important to ignore all of the instructions for Installing OS/2 that come in the ThinkPad users's booklet. Obviously you did this and had a clean install -- I had to do the installation twice because I followed those instructions the first time. However, I did do two things differently: I installed the ThinkPad features programs from the utility disk, and I upgraded the PCMCIA drivers because the ones included with Warp did not correctly configure my Ethernet card. I used the "os2pcm" beta drivers, installing the two relevant files by hand. For some reason, Warp doesn't include a Resource Map Utility for PCMCIA -- and my Ethernet card seems to require it (although my modem worked fine with the original Warp PCMCIA support). Power management problems abound, all related to running on AC power. The machine enters suspend mode OK but will not recover without pushing the reset button (restart). Can anyone else verify these problems? I want to make sure that it isn't just me before I call IBM to demand a fix. It seems like we've been living with these problems long enough, and let's face it - the power management schemes are useless if they force a machine restart every time you use them. Thanks, I did not experience such problems. My ThinkPad 755C suspends and recovers properly. I don't think installing the ThinkPad features would affect suspending, but I could be wrong. For the record, I used version 2.00 of the utility diskette for the installation. From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:31:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28601 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Nov 1994 19:34:36 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06652; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 19:32:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 19:32:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06642; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 19:32:56 -0500 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.9/16.2) id AA1788551189; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 19:36:06 -0500 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 94 19:36:01 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Warp/APM woes To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Item Subject: Message text I can confirm Karl's problems with Warp's implementation of APM. I don't use hibernation, but I do use suspend (or at least try to) on my TP 750. Suspend completely locks up the system, necessitating the use of the reset button. I use a PCMCIA modem (Intel). I called IBM with a few other concerns today and the guy I talked to didn't know what I was talking about. He said that they were swamped with calls (understandable). In any event , I had the same problem after installing the ServicePak to bring OS/2 2.1 (full version) up to the 2.11 level. The FAQ said the solution was to reinstall APM off of the original OS/2 diskettes. I don't think that can happen with Warp. However, if someone is willing to send me their OS/2 2.1 APM drivers via e-mail (using uuencode), I will try to install them to see what happens. They should be sent to dunaway@s9000.furman.edu. I also am having a few other problems with Warp. As the README indicates, there is Win-OS/2 (seamless) corruption when using the LCD (black and white). I don't want to use the VGA driver because I use the TP with an external monitor most of the time. Also, I don't want to install the video drivers I used with OS/2 2.1 because they are slow as Christmas. I guess this is one I'll just have to live with until the ServicePak comes out. Also, full-screen Win-OS/2 works alright, but it comes up only in 640x480 on the external monitor, when Workplace Shell is set up for 800x600. I tried editing SYSTEM.INI and referencing fdisplay= to every display driver in the \windows\system directory that started with wd. One of them got Win-OS/2 up in 800x600, but there was serious corruption when using anything other than the Program Manager. I may try using the driver I used with OS/2 2.1 in this case. One final concern: the driver for ThinkPad audio doesn't seem to support MIDI. The new Win-OS/2 audio drivers don't either. If there are any hackers out there with solutions to these problems, I will love you forever if you'll relay them to me. Wesley Dunaway dunaway@s9000.furman.edu From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:31:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07444 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Nov 1994 21:32:20 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13388; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 21:15:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 21:15:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13322; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 21:15:25 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA29828 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 18:15:18 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id SAA24561 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 18:15:16 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199411080215.SAA24561@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: OS/2 3.0/Warp upgrade price? To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 18:15:15 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there an upgrade price to Warp for a licensed owner of both version 2.0 and version 2.1 OS/2 for Windows? I am more or less an avowed Windows user, but I have always tried to use OS/2 whenever a new version has come out in hopes it was actually ready for prime time (IMO, Windows just always did the job better for me-- that is until all my software became OS/2-based--which very little of it is). So I've been through versions 1.3, 2.0, and 2.1 and have always ended up back with windows and a little disappointed. Will Warp finally convert me? Good question. That's why I'm asking if I can buy it a bit cheaper as an upgrade (and does anyone want to buy a OS/2 2.1 for Windows? I have a 2nd license...). And is Warp cheaper if you get the CD-ROM version? Can you make install diskettes from the CD-ROM? ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Some guy hit my fender the | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)|other day, and I said unto him| (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | "Be fruitful and multiply." | right, they should be yours too.) | --but not in those words. | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:32:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23578 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Nov 1994 22:29:51 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17378; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 22:06:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 22:06:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17367; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 22:06:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199411080306.WAA17367@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10549; Mon, 7 Nov 94 22:05:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 94 22:05:58 -0500 From: Chris Hanson To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199411080215.SAA24561@aludra.usc.edu> (message from Randal Whittle on Mon, 7 Nov 1994 18:15:15 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: OS/2 3.0/Warp upgrade price? From: Randal Whittle Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 18:15:15 -0800 (PST) Is there an upgrade price to Warp for a licensed owner of both version 2.0 and version 2.1 OS/2 for Windows? There's not a special upgrade price, but there is a coupon for people upgrading from OS/2 for Windows to OS/2 Warp v3. I believe there are still quite a few of these coupons available -- I saw boxes plastered with them at CompUSA last week. The coupon is for a $50 rebate, and is good until December 31. I can think of two ways to get a coupon: the salesperson at Indelible Blue told me that he could get some (I was ordering Warp at the time -- they're asking $79 which is not unreasonable), or you could go to a software store that still carries v2.1 and remove one from a box there (yikes! did I really suggest this?), which doesn't seem so unreasonable since you have already paid for OS/2 for Windows. Also, there's been a lot of discussion of this in the "comp.os.os2.misc" newsgroup lately, though I haven't followed it to see exactly what has been discussed. And is Warp cheaper if you get the CD-ROM version? Can you make install diskettes from the CD-ROM? As far as I know the price is the same for either ($75 at Egghead is the best price I've seen). After the rebate this is $25, which is pretty reasonable. Actually, it turns out to be cheaper to buy OS/2 for Windows just to get the coupon -- I've seen it selling for $25, which would mean that the total cost to get Warp is $50 -- and then throw away the old version. From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:32:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06613 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Nov 1994 23:10:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21382; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 23:04:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 23:03:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21362; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 23:03:55 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA19853; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 22:03:52 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 23:04:32 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <83072.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp/APM woes In message Mon, 7 Nov 94 19:36:01 -0500, writes: > I also am having a few other problems with Warp. As the > README indicates, there is Win-OS/2 (seamless) corruption > when using the LCD (black and white). I don't want to use I assume, since only Warp for Windows has been released (i.e. you have to use your own copy of Windows 3.1, Win-OS/2 is not included), that you mean Windows seamless doesn't work. Was this a problem with OS/2 2.1 for Windows? I know it wasn't in OS/2 2.1 with Win-OS/2. > One final concern: the driver for ThinkPad audio doesn't > seem to support MIDI. The new Win-OS/2 audio drivers > don't either. So the audio drivers now support sound in Windows under OS/2? They didn't before. Try reading through the MMPM/2 README. It had some important stuff buried in it in OS/2 2.1. Also, contrary to Sean's report on the Warp Beta, you seem to have Warp running SVGA on the TP750. Is that correct? - eagerly awaiting my copy of Warp... _______________________________________________________________________ |\_______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | | | jokim@mit.edu | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:32:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07771 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Nov 1994 23:14:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21383; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 23:04:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 23:03:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21358; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 23:03:52 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA19844; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 22:03:47 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 23:04:26 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <83066.jokim@mit.edu> To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: OS/2 3.0/Warp upgrade price? In message Mon, 7 Nov 1994 18:15:15 -0800 (PST), Randal Whittle writes: > Is there an upgrade price to Warp for a licensed owner of both > version 2.0 and version 2.1 OS/2 for Windows? > > Will Warp finally convert me? Good question. That's why I'm > asking if I can buy it a bit cheaper as an upgrade (and does anyone > want to buy a OS/2 2.1 for Windows? I have a 2nd license...). > > And is Warp cheaper if you get the CD-ROM version? Can you make > install diskettes from the CD-ROM? Yes. Maybe. No. No. Yes. :-) IBM is really pushing sales via retail channels this time, the downside being the street price is much lower than the upgrade price. If you bought 2.1 for Windows recently, you can get a $50 rebate on Warp. I'd call IBM to check how recent is recent. If you didn't buy OS/2fWin recently, you might be able to - it's been seen for as little as $15, which after the $50 rebate works to a net rebate of $35. Otherwise, street price is $70-$85; upgrade price is $129; and full retail price is something like $189. There is no price difference between CD and floppy. With 600MB of space available on a CD, the CD version had BETTER have floppy images on it. Warp with Win-OS/2 is supposed to be out in a few months and should be $20 more. But each store is free to set their own prices so who knows. _______________________________________________________________________ |\_______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | | | jokim@mit.edu | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:32:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09229 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:17:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28612; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 09:06:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 09:06:42 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom14.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28589; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 09:06:36 -0500 Received: by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id GAA15832; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 06:07:01 -0800 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 06:07:01 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Buffington Subject: Re: Warp/APM woes To: Dunaway_Wesley/furman@furman.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I installed Warp 3.0 this weekend on my TP 755Cs (8MB Ram, 170 MB HDD :-) ) Couple of questions: 1) I can't get my windows apps to work seamlessly. They work fine from the Win-OS/2 desktop, but when I try to set up objects on the PM desktop (yes, they are configured as 3.1 enhanced, etc.) the applications bomb. I would particularly like to get Wordperfect running on the desktop so that I could simply quit using the Windows Progman desktop. 2) It's fairly fast. Quite an improvement over 2.11. 3) It takes a lot of hard disk space. Definitely advanced my need for a 340 or 540 MB HDD. Anyone know why I can't get my Windows apps to run seamlessly? rogjd@netcom.com Glendale, CA AB6WR From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:32:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20644 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 11:54:22 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05074; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:38:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:38:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05063; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:38:35 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA03249; Tue, 8 Nov 94 08:37:53 MST Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 08:37:53 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9411081537.AA03249@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Warp & sytps115 On top of the problems I reported yesterday regarding Warp's implementation of APM, an even uglier bug appeared last night as I upgraded to BIOS version 1.15: my 360 can no longer run at SVGA resolution. The actual BIOS upgrade went just fine, and the machine passed all the system tests (including video) which IBM requests that you run immediately after performing such an upgrade. Upon restarting Warp, however, the video was scrambled, corrupted, beavered-up. I recovered by pressing ALT-F1 at boot-up and proceeded to specify generic VGA video, which allowed the machine to work normally. I then reinstalled the SVGA drivers through selective install and experienced the same scrambled display upon system restart. So.... Looks like I'll be talking to my friends at IBM again today. In the meantime, my advice to those of you running Warp is to avoid sytps115. P.S. Regarding Warp and APM, Wesley Dunaway wrote: "Suspend completely locks up the system, necessitating the use of the reset button. I use a PCMCIA modem (Intel). I called IBM with a few other concerns today and the guy I talked to didn't know what I was talking about." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This was my experience as well, but I'm gonna try again today. If anyone gets some answers, please clue us in! - Karl Yeanoplos kyeanopl@den.mmc.com From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:32:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21169 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 11:55:35 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06139; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:54:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:54:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06103; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:54:14 -0500 Received: from ppp.shadow.net by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxpdn16989; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:54:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 10:56:04 PST From: Don Whiteside Sender: Don Whiteside Subject: RE: OS/2 3.0/Warp upgrade price? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >If you didn't buy OS/2fWin recently, you >might be able to - it's been seen for as little as $15, which after the $50 >rebate works to a net rebate of $35. Surplus Software, 1-800-753-7877, OS/2 2/1 for Windows CD ROM, $19.95. SKU-OS2W. This is a great place to order from if you don't suffer from upgrade fever - good older software at amazing prices. Any of you 300 series owners who want sound can order the Mediavision Audioport for $39.95 (SKU - APORT) which is an 8 bit record and playback device. It ain't glorious, but it is $40. Can't beat that with a stick.... ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Eternal Student Florida International University GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:32:41 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22281 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 13:01:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10681; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 11:55:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 11:54:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10671; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 11:54:53 -0500 Received: from localhost by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id AA13244 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 9 Nov 1994 02:54:36 +1000 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 02:54:30 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: HDD connector info please? To: tp750 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry to bring spirits of truamas past back, but if someone could post me details of that phantom connector needed for the TP drive series, I'd be most appreciative. I pulled my 360 170M drive out, and haven't opened it up yet, but did look at the connector external for the drive box (AMP D connector, 60 pins). I rang AMP and yes, it's theirs. Yes, the guy had all the tech sheets in front of him. Yes they were sourcable (but not in Australia. I could probably arrange sourcing in the states if this drive box project is still on). I do however have the feeling that this was too easy, and therefore the phantom part must be the connector *inside* the drive box. Am I right? If so, what were the instructions again for opening the drive box? From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:32:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10331 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 13:38:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14551; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 12:47:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 12:47:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fire.ml.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14540; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 12:47:32 -0500 Received: from ml.com ([146.125.4.24]) by fire.ml.com (8.6.3/8.6.3) with ESMTP id MAA11395 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 12:46:01 -0500 Received: from gedny07.gedny.ml.com (gedny07.gedny.ml.com [146.125.9.7]) by ml.com (8.6.3/8.6.3) with SMTP id MAA00816 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 12:45:31 -0500 Received: from gedny29.gedny by gedny07.gedny.ml.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01764; Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:46:50 EST Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:46:50 EST From: chetal@gedny.ml.com (Pradeep Chetal) Message-Id: <9411081746.AA01764@gedny07.gedny.ml.com> Received: by gedny29.gedny (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00696; Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:46:48 EST To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: What is the left most 9 pin port on a TP750Ce (lost the manual) I am trying to connect the TP to a HP200LX via a 9-pin cable. What is the 9-pin port on the TP750? Thanks, /Pradeep From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:32:44 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11440 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 13:41:04 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14537; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 12:46:57 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 12:46:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14525; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 12:46:54 -0500 Received: by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03984; Tue, 8 Nov 94 09:49:00 PST Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 09:49:00 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411081749.AA03984@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Tech manual ordering In-Reply-To: Mail from 'Don Whiteside ' dated: Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:15:39 PST > I just called and ordered the 750 tech manual. FYI, the number to call is the > Boulder number 800-879-2755 and it was ~$35. Perhaps that should be added to > the FAQ. You _cannot_ get this manual from PC Direct. I just asked my techinical sales person nicely, and she sent me one for free. On the other hand, I've purched 40 ThinkPads from her in the last two years :) I hope you're not disappointed with the manual. Its actually a 70 page newsprint booklet, approximately 4"x7"! | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:32:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16302 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 13:51:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15039; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 12:58:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 12:57:59 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inetgate.prodigy.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15027; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 12:57:55 -0500 Received: from mail.prodigy.com by inetgate.prodigy.com with SMTP id AA22418 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 12:22:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 08 Nov 1994 12:21:44 EST From: VJFY58A@prodigy.com (MR WESLEY T DUNAWAY) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-308.52] Message-Id: <013.01717335.VJFY58A@prodigy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp/APM woes -- [ From: Wesley T. Dunaway * EMC.Ver #2.01P ] -- >In message Mon, 7 Nov 94 19:36:01 -0500, > writes: > >> I also am having a few other problems with Warp. As the >> README indicates, there is Win-OS/2 (seamless) corruption >> when using the LCD (black and white). > >I assume, since only Warp for Windows has been released (i.e. you >have to use your own copy of Windows 3.1, Win-OS/2 is not >included), that you mean Windows seamless doesn't work. Was this >a problem with OS/2 2.1 for Windows? I know it wasn't in OS/2 2.1 >with Win-OS/2. I don't believe this was a problem with any previous version of OS/2. Users of those operating systems used the video drivers produced by IBM specifically for use with the ThinkPad. Warp comes with its own drivers for the ThinkPad that are accelerated (unlike previous versions) but which cause the corruption on monochrome LCDs. >> One final concern: the driver for ThinkPad audio doesn't >> seem to support MIDI. The new Win-OS/2 audio drivers >> don't either. > >So the audio drivers now support sound in Windows under OS/2? >They didn't before. Try reading through the MMPM/2 README. It >had some important stuff buried in it in OS/2 2.1. Yes, Warp provides Win-OS/2 audio support, which we never had before. It works very nicely. The Multimedia book (online help) included with it gives installation instructions. The new Warp drivers, it seems, don't give us MIDI support, nor do they support SoundBlaster or AdLib sound in DOS boxes, which we did have with the ThinkPad drivers for OS/2. >Also, contrary to Sean's report on the Warp Beta, you seem to have >Warp running SVGA on the TP750. Is that correct? This is correct. The installation program automatically installs the correct video driver. Wesley Dunaway dunaway@s9000.furman.edu From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:32:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23927 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:04:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07603; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 11:14:54 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 11:14:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07589; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 11:14:50 -0500 Received: from ppp.shadow.net by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxpdo21202; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 11:14:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:15:39 PST From: Don Whiteside Sender: Don Whiteside Subject: Tech manual ordering To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just called and ordered the 750 tech manual. FYI, the number to call is the Boulder number 800-879-2755 and it was ~$35. Perhaps that should be added to the FAQ. You _cannot_ get this manual from PC Direct. I'm going to look into making a port replicator. While after the $35 for the manual and whatever the connector is gonna cost me (anyone got a source for this?) I probably won't save any cash, I think it would be a fun project. [note to self: examine definition of FUN] Plus, it's a start to learning about what it would take to produce a dock or SCSI minidock. Anyone got a PCMCIA Port Replicator they'd like to look inside and describe? Or a Dock I? (I'm not up on the look/feel/ability of a Dock 2) I'm interested in what additional silicon is required for control on the docks.... ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Eternal Student Florida International University GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:32:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05736 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:24:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17313; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 13:36:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 13:36:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17303; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 13:36:46 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA24294; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:36:43 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA25617; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:36:41 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199411081836.KAA25617@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: OS/2 3.0/Warp upgrade price? To: dwhite@shadow.net (Don Whiteside) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:36:40 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Don Whiteside" at Nov 8, 94 10:56:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >If you didn't buy OS/2fWin recently, you > >might be able to - it's been seen for as little as $15, which after the $50 > >rebate works to a net rebate of $35. > > Surplus Software, 1-800-753-7877, OS/2 2/1 for Windows CD ROM, > $19.95. SKU-OS2W. This is fine and dandy, all--but I have and OS/2 for Windows 2.1 on CD-ROM that was obtained nearly a full year ago when it first came out. Can I still get the rebate using this package? If so, how? Do I have to have some kind of a card or something to send in? If so, where do I get the card and when I send it in, what do have to send in *with* it to prove I have the version 2.1 CD-ROM? ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Some guy hit my fender the | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)|other day, and I said unto him| (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | "Be fruitful and multiply." | right, they should be yours too.) | --but not in those words. | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:32:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12733 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:37:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17777; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 13:43:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 13:43:30 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17760; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 13:43:21 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA03277; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:42:39 MST Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:42:39 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9411081842.AA03277@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Warp/APM update There is now a PMR number on file with the OS/2 support group relative to APM problems under Warp: 0X827,PSG. If anyone would like to jump on the bandwagon, please refer to this number when calling IBM. I was told that there have been reports of honkered-up APM functions as a result of using a power-on password. It just so happens that I do use such a password, so their advice was to bag the password and see if the problem persists. My machine is unavailable to me right now, so I don't know if this will cure it or not. It is interesting to note that I've had two responses confirming the aforementioned suspend problem, and one response stating that suspend functions correctly. Could it be that 3/4 of us are using a power-on password, and the remaining 1/4 is not? - Karl From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:33:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12263 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:26:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23401; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:58:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:58:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23352; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:58:33 -0500 Received: from ppp.shadow.net by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxped11491; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:58:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 14:43:03 PST From: Don Whiteside Sender: Don Whiteside Subject: RE: HDD connector info please? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII [stuff about AMP D connector on HDD deleted] >I do however have the feeling that this was too easy, and therefore >the phantom part must be the connector *inside* the drive box. Am I >right? If so, what were the instructions again for opening the drive box? First things first... There's three parts to this connector. The AMP D connector (glad to know it's sourcable - care to post the inventory number and contact info?), the ribbon-like cable (proper term??) and the 44 pin connector to the drive. That should be findable. It's the same size as a standard IDE connector, I believe, but with 4 more sockets. Here's the spec from the Seagate tech reference for one of their 2.5 drives: ST-9150AG TOP +- 44-pin I/O Connector (* see below) & o o ::::::::::::::::::::1 o o -P-W-A-----------+------------------ & & & pin-20 removed for keying ---------------+ & & & & & & Drive is Master, no Slave drive present ------------------ 0 0 Drive is Master, Seagate Slave drive present ------------- 1 0 Drive is Slave to another Seagate 2.5" Master ------------ 0 1 Reserved Position (Do Not Use) --------------------------- 1 1 * Drive uses +5vdc power supplied to the drive via the interface connector. The drive does NOT make use of a +12vdc power line. pin-41 +5vdc (Logic) pin-42 +5vdc (Motor) pin-43 Ground Anyways - my Circuit Specialist catalog only lists 40 and 50 pin 0.1x0.1 IDC female socket connectors. However, those are only $1 each in single quantity, $0.60 ea > 100 quantity. So even if you have to get these made.... not a horrid price, I would think. And SOMEONE is making them.... Second, getting the case open: Peel back the little sticker showing where to push down when inserting it and you'll find two screws. Remove em. Next, the way I did this was to carefully use a flathead jewler's screwdriver to undo the snaps one by one, starting at the end with the screws. The case had enough flex for me to bend it back as I went w/o damaging it. Once you do that, the top flips up and you're home free. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Eternal Student Florida International University GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:33:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13871 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:29:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23967; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:05:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:05:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23900; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:04:47 -0500 Received: from ppp.shadow.net by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxpee12789; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:04:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 15:04:45 PST From: Don Whiteside Sender: Don Whiteside Subject: Re: Tech manual To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >I just asked my techinical sales person nicely, and she sent me one >for free. On the other hand, I've purched 40 ThinkPads from her in the >last two years My IBM rep pretty much disappeared a few years ago. They realized the college was just buying PCs and they weren't making a lot of money from us, so she just does AS400 stuff now. So 'till they make one that'll fit in my bag... But they sure do treat you well when they like you, don't they? >I hope you're not disappointed with the manual. Its actually a 70 page >newsprint booklet, approximately 4"x7"! They can scratch it out with coal on the back of a shovel for all I care, so long as it has the info I need.... How much detail is there on pinouts and things? I don't suppose it has any info on the dock and other expansion connector devices, does it? ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Eternal Student Florida International University GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:33:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28865 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 16:47:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28952; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 16:01:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 16:01:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28936; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 16:01:02 -0500 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxpee14516; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:12:53 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15401; Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:07:24 PST Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA17887; Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:13:44 PST Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24177; Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:10:11 PST Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:10:11 PST From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9411082010.AA24177@opus.objy.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: OS/2 3.0/Warp upgrade price? Did IBM extend the date for OS/2 2.1 purchases eligible for rebate? I looked at the back of one of the coupons on the shelf at CompUSA and it said the original purchase of OS/2 had to be made before 10/31/94. --Bruce From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:33:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17104 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 17:19:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02833; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 16:53:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 16:53:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02823; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 16:53:50 -0500 Received: by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11583; Tue, 8 Nov 94 13:55:52 PST Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 13:55:52 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411082155.AA11583@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: What is the left most 9 pin port on a TP750Ce (lost the manual) In-Reply-To: Mail from 'chetal@gedny.ml.com (Pradeep Chetal)' dated: Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:46:50 EST > I am trying to connect the TP to a HP200LX via a 9-pin cable. > What is the 9-pin port on the TP750? The ThinkPad uses a standard RS-232D interface which is compatible with the 16550 UART. The pinouts for the male DB9 is: Pin Name Description --- ---- ----------- 1 DCD Carrier Detect 2 RD Receive Data 3 TD Transmit Data 4 DTR Data Terminal Ready 5 SG Signal Ground 6 DSR Data Set Ready 7 RTS Request to Send 8 CTS Clear to Send 9 RI Ring Indicator For a minimal interface to the HP, you probably only need 2,3 & 5. If the HP needs hardware flow control, then 2,3,5,7 & 8. | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:33:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17348 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 17:19:33 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03202; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 16:58:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 16:58:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03192; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 16:58:03 -0500 Received: by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11692; Tue, 8 Nov 94 14:00:10 PST Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 14:00:10 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411082200.AA11692@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Tech manual In-Reply-To: Mail from 'Don Whiteside ' dated: Tue, 8 Nov 94 15:04:45 PST > I don't suppose it has any info on the dock and other expansion > connector devices, does it? It describes all the pinouts for every connect in the ThinkPad, including the expansion connector and the hard disk connector. I'd post the pinnouts to the expansion connector, but its a 240 pin connector... If you want, I can fax it to you. | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:33:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25989 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 17:33:04 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04355; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 17:13:22 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 17:13:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04343; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 17:13:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199411082213.RAA04343@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03889; Tue, 8 Nov 94 17:10:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 17:10:23 -0500 From: Chris Hanson To: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:42:39 MST from kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Subject: Warp/APM update Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:42:39 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) It is interesting to note that I've had two responses confirming the aforementioned suspend problem, and one response stating that suspend functions correctly. Could it be that 3/4 of us are using a power-on password, and the remaining 1/4 is not? - Karl This might be correct -- I'm NOT using a power-on password and the APM functions perfectly for me. From ???@??? Tue Nov 08 19:33:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26888 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 17:34:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04398; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 17:14:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 17:14:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04388; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 17:14:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199411082214.RAA04388@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03895; Tue, 8 Nov 94 17:13:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 17:13:47 -0500 From: Chris Hanson To: bruce@objy.com Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:10:11 PST from bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Subject: OS/2 3.0/Warp upgrade price? Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:10:11 PST From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Did IBM extend the date for OS/2 2.1 purchases eligible for rebate? I looked at the back of one of the coupons on the shelf at CompUSA and it said the original purchase of OS/2 had to be made before 10/31/94. --Bruce Yes -- it has been extended to 12/31/94. There was a post regarding this on "comp.os.os2.announce" a few weeks ago. They sure would have pissed off a lot of people otherwise... From ???@??? Wed Nov 09 01:15:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17910 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:05:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17418; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:02:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:02:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17408; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:02:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199411090202.VAA17408@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from colt-71.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27573; Tue, 8 Nov 94 19:58:58 -0600 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 19:58:58 -0600 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: Warp/APM woes X-Mailer: >So the audio drivers now support sound in Windows under OS/2? They didn't >before. Try reading through the MMPM/2 README. It had some important >stuff buried in it in OS/2 2.1. Windows sounds are now supported in an OS/2 session. It still has the inherent limitations of Windows (i.e. skips if you load up too CPU intensive apps), but that's why they include a copy of MMOS! :) >Also, contrary to Sean's report on the Warp Beta, you seem to have Warp >running SVGA on the TP750. Is that correct? Actually, I had SVGA on the TP750C using Warp Beta II. I don't know if it got lost in the Warp GA release though (I doubt it). BTW, the man who demo'd Warp GA for us was none other than Timothy Sipples. Since I picked him up from the train station and many of us cruised out for pizza afterward, I had quite a lot of fun (and tried to pick his brain about IBM's strategies). --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Wed Nov 09 01:15:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19174 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:07:35 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18130; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:11:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:11:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18120; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:11:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199411090211.VAA18120@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from colt-71.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28407; Tue, 8 Nov 94 20:08:40 -0600 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 20:08:40 -0600 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: Warp/APM woes X-Mailer: >Anyone know why I can't get my Windows apps to run seamlessly? Have you checked to make sure that the video drivers are okay? In the system.ini file, there should be a driver loading for seamless drivers. Also, just to let you know, the latest version of WordPerfect (6.0a I think) includes some OS/2-awareness. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Wed Nov 09 01:16:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24697 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:17:36 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18684; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:20:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:20:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18654; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:20:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199411090220.VAA18654@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from colt-71.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29018; Tue, 8 Nov 94 20:17:14 -0600 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 20:17:14 -0600 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Warp SVGA X-Mailer: [Stuff deleted] >specifically for use with the ThinkPad. Warp comes with its own >drivers for the ThinkPad that are accelerated (unlike previous versions) >but which cause the corruption on monochrome LCDs. [More stuff unashamedly deleted] >>Also, contrary to Sean's report on the Warp Beta, you seem to have >>Warp running SVGA on the TP750. Is that correct? > >This is correct. The installation program automatically installs the >correct video driver. Wait! Does SVGA work on the TP750 or not? SVGA worked fine in the Warp Beta II version on my TP750C. However, Timothy Sipples told me that the Warp drivers for the Thinkpad are bad and won't work on the TP750 (no mention of problems with the TP75xC). Can anyone confirm? --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Wed Nov 09 01:16:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13511 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 23:59:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28943; Wed, 9 Nov 1994 00:04:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Nov 1994 00:04:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inetgate.prodigy.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28933; Wed, 9 Nov 1994 00:04:37 -0500 Received: from mail.prodigy.com by inetgate.prodigy.com with SMTP id AA59836 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 8 Nov 1994 23:23:34 -0500 Date: Tue, 08 Nov 1994 23:23:16 EST From: VJFY58A@prodigy.com (MR WESLEY T DUNAWAY) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-308.52] Message-Id: <013.01723664.VJFY58A@prodigy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp/APM woes -- [ From: Wesley T. Dunaway * EMC.Ver #2.01P ] -- >[Stuff deleted] > >>specifically for use with the ThinkPad. Warp comes with its own >>drivers for the ThinkPad that are accelerated (unlike previous >>versions) >>but which cause the corruption on monochrome LCDs. > >[More stuff unashamedly deleted] > >>>Also, contrary to Sean's report on the Warp Beta, you seem to have >>>Warp running SVGA on the TP750. Is that correct? >> >>This is correct. The installation program automatically installs >the >>correct video driver. > >Wait! Does SVGA work on the TP750 or not? > >SVGA worked fine in the Warp Beta II version on my TP750C. >However, Timothy Sipples told me that the Warp drivers for the >Thinkpad are bad and won't work on the TP750 (no mention of >problems with the TP75xC). Can anyone confirm? >--- >Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 The Warp drivers for the ThinkPad work. They are much nicer than the video drivers for OS/2 that IBM supplied with the ThinkPad for use with OS/2 2.1 in that they are accelerated. As the README reports, though, there is Win-OS/2 corruption on monochrome LCDs. The README indicates that the normal VGA driver doesn't have the problem. I hope that since IBM knows about this that they are working on a fix. Wesley Dunaway From ???@??? Wed Nov 09 01:16:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23558 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 9 Nov 1994 00:23:08 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00958; Wed, 9 Nov 1994 00:34:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Nov 1994 00:34:35 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00948; Wed, 9 Nov 1994 00:34:34 -0500 Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (sears@localhost) by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (8.6.9/3.5davy) id AAA22101; Wed, 9 Nov 1994 00:34:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199411090534.AAA22101@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 00:34:32 -0500 From: Michael J Sears To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: sears@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Angia 19.2 PCMCIA Modem... 11.07.94 Hello, I was recently reading the November, 1994 PC Computing magazine article about PCMCIA cards (in particular, modems, pp 174). The Angia SafeJack 19.2 was given a very good review; it came out on top in every category (except cellular compatibility). Also, the price looked good too. My question is, are any Thinkpad owners out in net land using this modem? What are your comments? Did you having any BIG problems getting it set up? In particular, I have not seen that the modem is "Thinkpad Proven". This is my primary concern. (I have a Thinkpad 350). Thanks for your help. Michael |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| | ___ || Michael J. Sears, Graduate Student | | ( __ __ __ __ || INTERNET: sears@ecn.purdue.edu | | `-- |--'| || (_ || Department of Agricultural Engineering | | ___) `-- `--|| __) || Purdue University | | || West Lafayette, Indiana 47907-1146 USA | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| From ???@??? Fri Nov 11 13:55:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06765 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Nov 1994 17:11:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14974; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:42:29 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:42:27 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14964; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:42:24 -0500 Received: from toddspc.caenn.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.10G/31) id AA297636539; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 13:42:19 -0600 Message-Id: <199411101942.AA297636539@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 13:42:15 -0600 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: SOLUTION: 3com & Port Replicator X-Mailer: Hello folks, Finally, I now have the 3com PCMCIA card working in slots 3 or 4 in the Thinkpad PCMCIA port replicator slots. The big breakthough was that 3com released new drivers. I got them via their BBS: (408) 980-8204, up to 14400 baud, N, 8, 1. The file was 3C589N.exe, and it was in their "New files" (or new uploads, whatever) section. It was dated Oct 94. It is a self extracting archive. I am using their 3C589.exe program (ODI packet driver), and everything seems cool with both the Port Replicator and with EZPLAY. Just remember to comment out the OPTION=IGNORE line in the Ethernet section of your \thinkpad\autodrv.ini file. Didn't have to add anything to my config.sys, didn't have to run any 3com configure program, just insert & login in. Finally, my ethernet card works with easyplay like my megahertz modem does! Note that this new archive also has odi, ndis, _and_ "clarkson" style packet drivers for the card. (the clarkson driver supposedly will not support re-configuration via card & socket services, but the ODI one sure appears to since it is working just fine with EZPLAY now). Have not yet tested everything (like suspend, etc), but what I have done looks great. Note that I am using the most recent release of ibm's pcmcia/ezplay stuff as well; got that from IBM's ftp site. ENJOY! I am! ,Todd =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Todd Tannenbaum email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Director of the Model Advanced Facility voice phone: (608) 262-3118 Computuer-Aided Engineering Center FAX phone: (608) 265-4546 University of Wisconsin-Madison From ???@??? Fri Nov 11 13:56:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08244 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Nov 1994 17:14:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16703; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 15:03:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 15:03:30 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16693; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 15:03:23 -0500 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxplo13460; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 15:03:08 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21200; Thu, 10 Nov 94 11:58:01 PST Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA11387; Thu, 10 Nov 94 12:04:29 PST Received: from localhost by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24637; Thu, 10 Nov 94 12:00:49 PST Message-Id: <9411102000.AA24637@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp/APM woes X-Mailer: exmh version 1.4 6/24/94 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 94 12:00:48 -0800 From: Bruce Reed > I am interested in where you got the os2pcm beta drivers. I am trying > to get my Trantor slimSCSI to work under OS/2. I must of missed this thread. Someone's working on OS/2 PCMCIA drivers for the Adaptec SlimSCSI? Last time I spoke with Adaptec they told me that there were no plans in the near future to develop OS/2 drivers. I pointed out that this should be rather easy under WARP with system suppled CS/SS, but it sounded like they were not convinced there was going to be a lot of demand for OS/2 support. They should talk to Egghead and CompUSA who apparently cannot keep it on the shelves for more than a few hours. --Bruce From ???@??? Fri Nov 11 13:56:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10692 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Nov 1994 17:20:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16290; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:55:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:55:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16205; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:55:03 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA09763; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 13:54:51 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:55:30 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <53730.jokim@mit.edu> To: dvchan@netcom.com Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Hi...anyone know how to get a Syquest 270 Mb to boot on the 750c? In message Thu, 10 Nov 1994 07:37:14 -0800 (PST), Randal Whittle writes: >> Hi! I read the instructions that came w/ the Dock II, but my Syquest >> still insists on being assigned SCSI ID #1. I even set the jumper on >> the back of the drive to read "ID 0" but i think the SCAM support in >> the Dock II forces it to go to SCSI ID 1. Does anyone know how to >> get my SCSI drive recognized as ID 0? > > They key question here is in asking whether ThinkPad Owners using > a the Dock II can use the SCSI setup to *boot* from. I don't know the > answer to that... If you go to the TP BIOS setup (turn machine off, hold down F1, turn it on), one of the setup options is the startup device order. You might try putting HDD2 (or HDD3 or HDD4) in the first slot and see if that does the trick. I'm guessing it *has* to work with a dock because there really is no other way to add another hard drive. _______________________________________________________________________ |\_______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | | | jokim@mit.edu | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Fri Nov 11 13:56:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14130 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Nov 1994 18:50:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02301; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 18:20:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 18:20:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02280; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 18:20:52 -0500 Received: from rufus.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id PAA26595; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 15:20:25 -0800 Received: by rufus.UCSC.EDU (8.6.9/4.7) id PAA23399; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 15:20:13 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 15:20:13 -0800 Message-Id: <199411102320.PAA23399@rufus.UCSC.EDU> To: bruce@objy.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dick@cats.ucsc.edu (Dick Terdiman) Subject: Re: Warp/APM woes I have a TP 720C (160 meg HD) that I am considering selling. The machine is in perfect shape. Anyone have a good idea what I might expect to receive for it? Your advice would be appreciated. Dick From ???@??? Fri Nov 11 13:56:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27577 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Nov 1994 19:33:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05971; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 19:31:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 19:31:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05947; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 19:30:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199411110030.TAA05947@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16788; Thu, 10 Nov 94 19:30:53 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 94 19:30:53 -0500 From: Chris Hanson To: hosmer@ibm.net Cc: shosmer@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9411101900.AA0022@shosmer.slip.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Warp/APM woes Date: Thu, 10 Nov 94 09:13:35 -0800 From: hosmer@ibm.net Cc: "Stephen Hosmer" , "Thinkpad List" I am interested in where you got the os2pcm beta drivers. I am trying to get my Trantor slimSCSI to work under OS/2. //---------------------------------------------------------------------------- // shosmer@netcom.com // with the newest NASDAQ company // Royale Energy Inc. (ROYL) ftp to "software.watson.ibm.com" and get the file "os2/ews/os2pcm.zip". From ???@??? Fri Nov 11 13:56:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03954 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Nov 1994 22:34:37 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18876; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 22:09:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 22:09:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18866; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 22:09:34 -0500 Received: from world.std.com by (5.65c/Spike-8-1.0) id AA04862; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 22:09:18 -0500 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA11631; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 22:09:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 22:09:36 -0500 From: eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell) Message-Id: <199411110309.AA11631@world.std.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 3com ftp site Hello all, 3com has a ftp site. The address is ftp.3com.com (or gatekeeper.3com.com). The 3c589n file mentioned on this list is in the directory /adapters/drivers. 73 Eric eac@world.std.com From ???@??? Fri Nov 11 13:56:23 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17282 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 11 Nov 1994 01:32:50 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04475; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 01:40:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 01:40:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom20.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04464; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 01:40:44 -0500 Received: by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id WAA00732; Thu, 10 Nov 1994 22:41:05 -0800 From: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek Chan) Message-Id: <199411110641.WAA00732@netcom20.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Hi...anyone know how to get a Syquest 270 Mb to boot on the 750c? To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randal Whittle) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 22:41:04 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) In-Reply-To: <199411101537.HAA21094@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Nov 10, 94 07:37:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Hi! I read the instructions that came w/ the Dock II, but my Syquest > > still insists on being assigned SCSI ID #1. I even set the jumper on the > > back of the drive to read "ID 0" but i think the SCAM support in the Dock > > II forces it to go to SCSI ID 1. Does anyone know how to get my SCSI > > drive recognized as ID 0? > > They key question here is in asking whether ThinkPad Owners using > a the Dock II can use the SCSI setup to *boot* from. I don't know the > answer to that... > > In order for a SCSI hard drive to be assigned ID 0, it has to be > the first drive on the system--meaning, it can't be competing with the > likes of another IDE drive. If there is an IDE drive on the system (namely, > the one inside your ThinkPad), then it can't do its thing--at least not > as a boot drive. First thing I'd do is remove my ThinkPad's IDE hard drive > and see what happens. > > The second thing that is necessary is for your SCSI card (again, I > don't know exactly how IBM impliments SCSI in its Dock II) to have a > "Boot ROM" in it, allowing you to boot from a SCSI hard drive. Most cheap > SCSI cards you see sold with the likes of CD-ROM drives simply don't have > such a thing, but better SCSI cards do. On my desktop machine, I used to > boot off a SCSI drive but now I boot off of an IDE and use the SCSI as > extra hard drive space. Hence, I have a Boot ROM in my Adaptec SCSI card, > but I don't need it right now since I boot off the IDE (which, as long as > you have a non-SCSI drive in the system, you have to boot off that non-SCSI > drive). > > Let us know what you do and how you do it. I have a particular > interest in the SyQuest 270 as I have one myself! ;) I figured out the problem (w/ mine, at least). I had to unplug my Syquest and plug it back in for the new scsi id's on the back to recognized (). However, I also figured out how to boot from the 270. Just use the setup (F1) and set your computer to start up HDD-2 before HDD-1. It'll go to the syquest first, then the internal. However, if you have the syquest on but no disk in the syquest, the cmoputer hangs...kinda annoying to say the least. Furthermore, you have to make the syquest bootable via a disk editor of some kind...I don't think that fdisk works. Use norton diskedit and examine the partition table of the syquest. If you have a new syquest disk (PC formatted), there should only be one partition I think. Or, low level format the disk. Then, use diskedit and set the partition you want booted, bootable. Hmmmm...I guess I'll try installing boot manager onto it ;-). On the other hand, I think LILO from Linux can boot different hard drives. Maybe it's time to do away with the pretty Boot Manager. From ???@??? Sat Nov 12 02:30:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12524 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 11 Nov 1994 15:18:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25019; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 14:52:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 14:52:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25009; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 14:52:27 -0500 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17004; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 13:51:42 -0600 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA61305; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 13:51:42 -0600 From: rol@uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) Message-Id: <9411111951.AA61305@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: TPAUDVXD.386--IS YOURS A HOG TOO? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (IBM 750 newsgroup) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 13:51:42 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The IBM Thinkpad 755C System.Ini entry, device=tpaudvxd.386, is a super memory hog. I have a 20mb ram 755C, and with QEMM 7.5, I have 613kb base memory free when I go into Windows. I can only have file manager, Word Perfect for Windows 6.0a, Procomm Plus 2.0 and I can't load either Lotus 1-2-3 rel 5 nor latest Lotus Free- lance, yet if I comment out tpaudvxd.386, I can load as many big hog programs as I want. As this 755c is my boss's boss (who wants me to load more than 2 hog programs at a time on his 20mb ram computer like he was able to on his Toshiba 4600C), I need to know what my options are. 1. What about using New Media Corporation's PCMCIA .WAVjammer card and using audio cables from that card's dongle device back to the TP755C speakers, and using this sound device v. that of the TP755C? Has anyone done this? 2. My TPAUDVXD.386 (in \WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory) is 5,591 bytes and dated 2-14-94. Is there a newer, better version? Where do I get the newer version (filename, directory, ftp or bbs site). 3. Any other ideas? Thanks! -- | Roleigh Martin, Rt. MN06-6130 Opinions are mine not UHC | | UHC, Advanced Technology AT&T/vmail: (612) 945-6529 | | 9705 Data Park Drive FAX: (612) 945-6502 | | Minnetonka, MN 55343 Email: rol@lochness.uhc.com | | ** B'days are good for health ** | | Statistics show that people with most b'days live the longest | | When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl | From ???@??? Sat Nov 12 02:30:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29926 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 11 Nov 1994 18:54:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16468; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 18:57:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 18:57:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16457; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 18:57:39 -0500 Received: from ankle!ankle.spine.com (jesse@localhost) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with UUCP id PAA28865 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 15:00:56 -0800 Received: from ankle.UUCP (root@localhost) by colon.spine.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id PAA06997 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 15:51:02 -0800 Received: by ankle.spine.com (UUPC/extended 1.12j); Fri, 11 Nov 1994 14:34:19 -0800 Message-Id: <2ec3f16b.ankle@ankle.spine.com> From: jesse@spine.com To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: windows 95? Sender: jesse montrose Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 14:34:19 -0800 Our beta copy is supposed to come in in a few weeks, and I remember someone on this list was running the beta on their tp.. I've got a few questions: . are there any tp specific drivers I need to get hold of to make it work? . I have a tp755cs, does it work in 640x480x256? . does the tcp/ip really work? Much thanks! From ???@??? Sat Nov 12 02:30:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07056 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 11 Nov 1994 19:24:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10651; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 17:29:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 17:29:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10641; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 17:29:04 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA27534; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 16:29:01 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 17:29:38 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <62980.jokim@mit.edu> To: rol@uhc.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: TPAUDVXD.386--IS YOURS A HOG TOO? In message Fri, 11 Nov 1994 13:51:42 -0600 (CST), rol@uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) writes: > The IBM Thinkpad 755C System.Ini entry, device=tpaudvxd.386, is > a super memory hog. I have a 20mb ram 755C, and with QEMM 7.5, > I have 613kb base memory free when I go into Windows. I can only > have file manager, Word Perfect for Windows 6.0a, Procomm Plus 2.0 > and I can't load either Lotus 1-2-3 rel 5 nor latest Lotus Free- > lance, yet if I comment out tpaudvxd.386, I can load as many big > hog programs as I want. As this 755c is my boss's boss (who wants > me to load more than 2 hog programs at a time on his 20mb ram > computer like he was able to on his Toshiba 4600C), I need to know > what my options are. With a 20MB machine, you could install OS/2 and forget about all your memory problems. I've got it installed with PCMCIA, audio, ethernet LAN, and TCP/IP drivers and my DOS boxes still have the base 593k - (I've never had problems with needing more so I haven't bothered tweaking). If IBM has fixed a bug with not being able to load DOS high, you should be able to get ~620k in your DOS boxes easy. OS/2 handles all the drivers so they never infringe on the lower 640k. Barring that, you can inspect where in memory all your drivers are going, and play around with the order they're installed in. I found out that the TP audio drivers (probably not the same version as yours) would exactly fit in high memory if I bumped DOSKEY into conventional memory. I wish *I* had a 20MB machine. What with all the multitasking I do, I could really use it. :-) _______________________________________________________________________ |\_______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | | | jokim@mit.edu | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Sat Nov 12 02:31:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09528 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 11 Nov 1994 19:35:36 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19542; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 19:31:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 19:30:59 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19530; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 19:30:54 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA05365; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 16:30:38 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id QAA03512; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 16:30:31 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199411120030.QAA03512@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: TPAUDVXD.386--IS YOURS A HOG TOO? To: rol@uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 16:30:29 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9411111951.AA61305@lochness.uhc.com> from "Roleigh Martin" at Nov 11, 94 01:51:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The IBM Thinkpad 755C System.Ini entry, device=tpaudvxd.386, is > a super memory hog. I have a 20mb ram 755C, and with QEMM 7.5, > computer like he was able to on his Toshiba 4600C), I need to know > what my options are. > > 1. What about using New Media Corporation's PCMCIA .WAVjammer > card and using audio cables from that card's dongle device > back to the TP755C speakers, and using this sound device v. > that of the TP755C? Has anyone done this? > > 2. My TPAUDVXD.386 (in \WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory) is 5,591 > bytes and dated 2-14-94. Is there a newer, better version? > Where do I get the newer version (filename, directory, ftp > or bbs site). > > 3. Any other ideas? How about forgetting sound altogether? I am ashamed to admit that the TP's built-in sound was something of a selling point for me, but despite having sound on my TP and a perfectly good soundblaster card in my Desktop machine, I have yet to see a legitimate, bonified reason to have sound on a computer (with the *possible* exception of showing video for some kind of dog-and-pony show presentation). Other than that possible exception, all I see are sounds for silly games, educational stuff for kiddies, and horny XXX videos on CD-ROM. Face it--for 99.9% of the population, sound on your computer is simply a nice cutsie feature that really has no purpose other than to impress your friends. Dump it and get on with the real work (that is, unless you're editing video clips, in which case you should probably just stick to using an Amiga and a Video Toaster). ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Some guy hit my fender the | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)|other day, and I said unto him| (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | "Be fruitful and multiply." | right, they should be yours too.) | --but not in those words. | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Thu Nov 17 10:21:23 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24023 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 15 Nov 1994 05:22:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20885; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 04:38:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 04:38:30 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20875; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 04:38:23 -0500 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 10:38:10 +0100 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Tue, 15 Nov 94 10:38:09 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 94 10:38:09 +0100 Message-Id: <9411150938.AA04472@octave.chorus.fr> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Newcomer + Request info on TP360 Serie Cc: h@chorus.fr Hello ThinkPad users, I am a newcomer to this mailing list. I am especially interested in the Thinkpad 360 Serie and free *IX (Like Linux, *BSD). I have no Thinkpad yet but I am certainely going to buy one in the next few weeks. As I'd like to run Linux as my first operating system and do some kernel developments on it, I have been looking for a solid and powerful configuration. I have a limited budget also. You know, in FRANCE, laptops and especially IBM 75x are still very expensive. For instance, the TP755C (486dx4/75, 4Mo, 170Mo is at 44000FF-US $7333 !) That's why I've been looking to the (more economical) 360 Series. Of course, the old 360s were using a 486Sx33Mhz (only !) CPU. That's why I've been really happy to learn about the new 360 models which are TP360CSE and TP360CE. These are provided with a 486DX2/50Mhz. The other characteristics seem to be the same as the old ones (take a look at IBM's official announcement). My targeted model is the TP360CSE (dual scan) with a 340Mo disk. But before ordering this laptop, I WOULD LIKE TO GATHER AS MUCH AS INFORMATION, EXPERIENCES AS POSSIBLE on this model (or old ones). I have a question not specifically related to Thinkpad: We are currently facing a race in laptop power. New 486dx4/100Mhz and Pentium-based machine are announced. But really few models use an external L2 cache. What's the interest of a high speed CPU, despite it's internal cache, if there is no external one ? Memory intensive applications won't get full CPU power. And finally we can arrive to a point where a 33Mhz machine will better run an application than a 100Mhz one !! - What's your opinion on this problem ? - Apart from the CPU, what are it's weak points and strong one ? - Is there any particular and annoying problems or incompatibilities ? - What's the video chipset in it ? - What's the PCMCIA controller chipset ? - Did someone try to use an external keyboard AND mouse at the same time using the Y cable ? In this case, can I connect any standard PS/2 style mouse to this cable ? - I know that the video card uses a VESA local bus, but what about the hard drive controller (IDE, E-IDE ?) ? - Did someone on this list already order any of the new 360 (CSE,CE) ? What's his/her first impressions ? - Concerning Linux, are the floppy (even though this is a 1.44Mo) and CMOS settings incompatibilities still present ? - What about XFree86-3.x settings (Xconfig) for Dual scan screens ? - What PCMCIA card are supported by both Thinkpad and Linux ? Thanks for your help. -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Thu Nov 17 10:21:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07727 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Nov 1994 03:23:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11106; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 15:51:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 15:51:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from charlie.ece.scarolina.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11096; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 15:51:18 -0500 Received: by charlie.ece.scarolina.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA05222; Tue, 15 Nov 94 15:51:02 -0500 Received: From ENGR_1/WORKQUEUE by mailgate.engr.scarolina.edu via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.941115155028.480; 15 Nov 94 15:51:14 +500 Message-Id: To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "David N. Rocheleau" Organization: College of Engineering Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 15:50:28 EST Subject: cdrom Reply-To: rochelea@engr.engr.scarolina.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: WinPMail v1.0 (R2) Question: Has anyone had experience running an external triple or quad speed CD-ROM off their TP755? IBM's latest offering is an external PCMCIA CD-ROM double-speed and multi-session Photo CD compatible drive with access time of 250 ms @ 300KB/sec. They are selling it with the PCMCIA CD-ROM interface card (Type II socket) for $415.00. I called IBM PC-Direct and the rep didn't even know that it existed and asked me to fax him the news release on it (thank you Joshua)! I haven't heard back from him as to availability but I do know that I can go down to the nearest computer wholesale outlet and buy an external double-speed CD-ROM for less than $200. But here comes the question, how much would a third party PCMCIA CD-ROM interface card cost and is it compatiable w/ the 755? I don't know if IBM's interface card that comes with theirs is SCSI or not, but I know either way that I will get faster throughput using PCMCIA as opposed to parallel or serial. So anyone out there running an external PCMCIA CD-ROM? Is it double-, triple-, or quad-speed? How do you like it and where can I get one? If I go SCSI, does Colorado trakker make a SCSI 250-500MB backup tape drive unit? Thanks in advance. ************************************ David N. Rocheleau Department of Mechanical Engineering 300 South Main Street University of South Carolina Columbia SC 29208 rocheleau-david@scarolina.edu 803|777-9395 (Office) 803|777-0106 (Fax) ************************************ From ???@??? Thu Nov 17 10:21:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13969 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Nov 1994 04:02:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27855; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 13:06:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 13:06:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27831; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 13:06:38 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.46] (mac46.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA00896; Tue, 15 Nov 94 13:05:57 EST Message-Id: <9411151805.AA00896@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 13:06:14 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: EPP I asked this before, but now that we have lots of people with tech manuals on the list, somebody might have an answer. Parallel_1 is regular parallel, parallel_2 is EPP. Two questions: 1) Why does parallel_1 even exist? Parallel_2 does EPP or regular, making parallel_1 a crippled redundancy. b) What is parallel_3? Does this allow us to communicate with alien life forms and mac users? :) -Victor ------------------------------------------------------------ Victor Kress Carnegie Institution of Washington, Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 ------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Thu Nov 17 10:21:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11171 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Nov 1994 05:45:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19505; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 11:13:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 11:13:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19495; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 11:13:34 -0500 Received: from ppp.shadow.net by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxqdk05840; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 11:13:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 94 11:16:52 PST From: Don Whiteside Sender: Don Whiteside Subject: EPP To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've never given the matter much thought, but I did notice in the FAQ that my 750 has an EPP. I also noticed over the weekend the new Epson color scanner which is an EPP-interface and comes with an EPP card. Does anyone know/guess if I could use this unit with the EPP on my Thinkpad? Would be nice to be able to put the EPP card in my desktop and still be able to use the scanner with my TP...... ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Eternal Student Florida International University GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Thu Nov 17 10:21:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11651 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Nov 1994 05:47:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20264; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 11:20:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 11:20:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom6.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20219; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 11:20:37 -0500 Received: by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id IAA06739; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 08:20:53 -0800 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 08:20:53 -0800 (PST) From: "Martin P. Smith" Subject: RE: scsi pcmcia that works with an xjack? To: "John H. Kim" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <79381.jokim@mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have another alternative that more scary but gives a solid connection and locks the line into the xjack. Remove the PCMCIA slot cover r and hang it off the network dongle. This gives the network card enough play to allow the phone line to lock in. In addition you can remove the first couple of millimeters off the front of the phone cable. I do not recommend the above but it works for me. Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.COM On Mon, 14 Nov 1994, John H. Kim wrote: > In message Mon, 14 Nov 1994 15:51:43 -0800, jesse@spine.com writes: > > > Anyone have a good solution here? I love my xjack, but would like to add > > a scsi adapter to hook up an external drive and an external nec 3xp.. > > > > I'm a bit concerned about one of those damned dongle cables fitting > > underneath the xjack.. > > It won't fit. I've got an ethernet card taking up the same space. It's a > drawback to the xjack. > > If you don't mind having a tenuous connection, you can still put the phone > jack in the xjack. It won't lock in, but it should make enough of a contact > to work. But if you move the computer or touch the phone line, you'll > lose the connection. > _______________________________________________________________________ > |\_______________________________________________________________________\ > | | | > | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | > | | jokim@mit.edu | > | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | > \|_______________________________________________________________________| > From ???@??? Thu Nov 17 10:21:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11922 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Nov 1994 05:49:31 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04825; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 07:51:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 07:51:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04781; Tue, 15 Nov 1994 07:51:45 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA10896; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 12:07:46 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id MAA00992; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 12:07:18 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199411142007.MAA00992@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: TPAUDVXD.386--IS YOURS A HOG TOO? To: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 12:07:17 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9411141358.AA29133@jimi.watson.ibm.com> from "Andrew Stevens" at Nov 14, 94 08:58:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Face it--for 99.9% of the population, sound on your computer is > >simply a nice cutsie feature that really has no purpose other than to > >impress your friends. Dump it and get on with the real work (that is, > >unless you're editing video clips, in which case you should probably > >just stick to using an Amiga and a Video Toaster). > > That's funny, I used to feel the same way about color screens!! > > --andy I don't doubt it! But at least there is something to be said for the aesthetics of color screens--for the most part, computer sound is simply noise to me (though I do have a .WAV file that plays, when I exit, Al Bundy saying, "Well this certainly sucks!"). And of course, there are those of us who do our share of desktop publishing where the color ranges from handy to imperative. Aside from games, I see little reason for sound on a computer-- unless you're composing music or for educational stuff (teaching kids to say words, etc.). The gentleman I first made the sound argument to mentioned another use that I hadn't thought of, yet use all the time-- using a sound file to let you know when the computer has completed a process. I use it to let me know the computer has completed downloading a set of files, he uses it to let him know when the computer is done with a long compile, so he can go on to other things without constantly checking to see if it is done. A legitimate reason, I think, but something that *could* be done with a simple system beep too. ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Some guy hit my fender the | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)|other day, and I said unto him| (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | "Be fruitful and multiply." | right, they should be yours too.) | --but not in those words. | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Thu Nov 17 10:21:43 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14108 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Nov 1994 11:23:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27512; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 11:11:43 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 11:11:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27500; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 11:11:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199411161611.LAA27500@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2870; Wed, 16 Nov 94 11:10:48 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 7473; Wed, 16 Nov 94 11:10:44 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (NJE origin KRUCK@WVNVM) by WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3321; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 11:09:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 11:09:47 EST From: "Ruckstuhl, Keith E" To: Subject: WP60a question This may not be the best place to ask, but not knowing where else to go... I installed wordperfect 60, then moved it to another partition. I get the error message " cannot find c:wpwin60wpqc60us.dll", although I changed all the path statements I could find in the wp60a menus. What did I miss? Thanks, Keith From ???@??? Thu Nov 17 10:21:44 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21195 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Nov 1994 12:41:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24749; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 10:38:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 10:38:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24732; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 10:38:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id AA06254 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Nov 1994 01:38:05 +1000 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 01:37:59 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: Re: EPP To: tp750 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 16 Nov 1994, Donald A. Whiteside wrote: > On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Victor Kress wrote: > > > b) What is parallel_3? Does this allow us to communicate with > > alien life forms and mac users? :) > > There's a difference? > Yeah most people believe in _intelligent_ extraterrestrial life. sorry, but it was begging to be done. From ???@??? Thu Nov 17 10:21:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11481 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Nov 1994 16:34:11 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04361; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 12:39:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 12:39:40 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from ZCIAS1.ZIFF.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04345; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 12:39:36 -0500 Received: from MAIL.ZD.ZIFF.COM by zcias1.ziff.com (PMDF V4.3-7 #6906) id <01HJJPUZ46LS0094QK@zcias1.ziff.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 12:39:21 EDT Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 12:36 -0500 (EST) From: SMKelly@mail.zd.ziff.com (SMKelly) Subject: Re: WP60a question To: RKeithE@mail.zd.ziff.com, KE@mail.zd.ziff.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01HJJPUZ6BRM0094QK@zcias1.ziff.com> X-Envelope-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Check for INI files that need changing. O-CMS-ErrorsTo: owner-t @ INTERNET (owner-tp750) {owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU} This may not be the best place to ask, but not knowing where else to go... I installed wordperfect 60, then moved it to another partition. I get the error message " cannot find c:wpwin60wpqc60us.dll", although I changed all the path statements I could find in the wp60a menus. What did I miss? Thanks, Keith From ???@??? Thu Nov 17 10:21:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15030 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Nov 1994 16:42:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21073; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 09:55:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 09:55:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21049; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 09:55:24 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id JAA03107; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 09:58:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 09:58:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Donald A. Whiteside" Subject: Re: EPP To: Thinkpad List Cc: Greg Rhodes In-Reply-To: <9411151805.AA00896@gl.ciw.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Victor Kress wrote: > b) What is parallel_3? Does this allow us to communicate with > alien life forms and mac users? :) There's a difference? From ???@??? Thu Nov 17 10:22:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04945 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Nov 1994 20:05:43 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00427; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 18:38:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 18:38:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00416; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 18:38:18 -0500 Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA10887; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 23:38:34 GMT Received: from slip2-19.fl.us.ibm.net(129.37.2.19) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaKnkDmb; Wed Nov 16 23:38:12 1994 Received: by localhost (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0um) id AA0015; Wed, 16 Nov 94 16:32:22 -0800 Message-Id: <9411170032.AA0015@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 16:31:53 -0800 From: shosmer@netcom.com To: "Thinkpad List " Reply-To: shosmer@netcom.com Subject: RE: scsi pcmcia that works with an xjack? X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <11_53_1_785021515> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: //---------------------------------------------------------------------------- // shosmer@netcom.com // with the newest NASDAQ company // Royale Energy Inc. (ROYL) //--- forwarded letter ------------------------------------------------------- > Return-Path: > Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) > id TAA01458; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 19:18:57 -0800 > Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) > id WAA26751; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 22:02:36 -0500 > X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 22:02:32 EST > Errors-to: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) > id WAA26741; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 22:02:24 -0500 > Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) > id AA18569; Mon, 14 Nov 1994 21:02:20 -0600 > X-Nupop-Charset: English > Message-Id: <79381.jokim@mit.edu> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 94 22:03:00 -0500 > From: "John H. Kim" > To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu > Subject: RE: scsi pcmcia that works with an xjack? > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; charset="US-ASCII"; > boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0020.784968679" > > In message Mon, 14 Nov 1994 15:51:43 -0800, jesse@spine.com writes: > > > Anyone have a good solution here? I love my xjack, but would like to add > > a scsi adapter to hook up an external drive and an external nec 3xp.. > > > > I'm a bit concerned about one of those damned dongle cables fitting > > underneath the xjack.. > > It won't fit. I've got an ethernet card taking up the same space. It's a > drawback to the xjack. > > If you don't mind having a tenuous connection, you can still put the phone > jack in the xjack. It won't lock in, but it should make enough of a contact > to work. But if you move the computer or touch the phone line, you'll > lose the connection. > _______________________________________________________________________ > |\_______________________________________________________________________\ > | | | > | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | > | | jokim@mit.edu | > | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | > \|_______________________________________________________________________| > From ???@??? Thu Nov 17 10:22:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29053 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Nov 1994 01:22:40 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23853; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 01:28:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 01:28:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23843; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 01:27:56 -0500 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA24315 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 01:27:51 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 01:27:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs19.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 01:26:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs19.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 01:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Nov..4.1993.10.47.44.sun4c.411.EzMail.PC.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.pcs19.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.pcs19.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 01:25:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 01:25:57 -0500 (EST) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: external harddrives I have a tp755cs and a pathetic 170 meg hd which is getting very crowded. I'm looking for an external hard disk to go along with my 170mb hd I guess SCSI-2 is the best huh? well, should I go with a pcmcia scsi-2 or through EPP? I already have a ethernet card (pcmcia) and the scsi-2 card might not fit in (due to cable) and also, would the external harddisk access speed be faster through the pcmcia scsi-2 or the epp? what are my options? btw, do I need a screen saver for my dual scan screen? thanks in advance ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sang Kim I want the world to know that I sk6k@andrew.cmu.edu LOOOOOOOOVE Alexis Hayes, the babe from University of Denver. (wow, what a knockout!) *** Alexis is my Celestial Pixie Princess :-P""" *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Thu Nov 17 10:22:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AB10802 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Nov 1994 01:59:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25426; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 02:13:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 02:13:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from iss.nus.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25416; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 02:13:04 -0500 Received: from grape.iss.nus.sg by iss.nus.sg (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05274; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 15:16:19 +0800 From: kcheong@iss.nus.sg (Kevin Cheong) Message-Id: <9411170716.AA05274@iss.nus.sg> Subject: tp360 + os2w3 + gcc + gdb + emacs + .. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 15:16:18 +0800 (SST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, i intend to install gcc, gdb, latex, ghost.., emacs over to os/2w3. 1) what is the system requirement to have all this and still run "respectably" on an IBM TP360 notebook? ie. RAM, disk space, degradation of performance, not up and running most of the time, incompatibilities with w3, swap space etc. spec: 12Mb RAM, 340 Mb HD, 386sx33sl 2) how close does os/2w3 emulate the look-and-feel of the UNIX environment? ie. background, foreground tasks, etc. 3) is it simple to work between UNIX and os/2w3 environments without m/any portability issues (when using the compilers)? ie. at work i use an IBM RISC/6000 410 for development. 4) would it be better to have slackware (linux) w/o X stuff as well as os/2w3 + the compilers? TIA.. cheers, . kevin cheong iss nus nlp program . From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:18 1994 Received: from shadow.net (anshar.shadow.net) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08489 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:27:53 -0600 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id MAA18252; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:30:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:30:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Donald A. Whiteside" Subject: Re: EPP To: Sean Chou Cc: Thinkpad List In-Reply-To: <199411171656.LAA11449@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 17 Nov 1994, Sean Chou wrote: > >I've never given the matter much thought, but I did notice in the FAQ that my > >750 has an EPP. I also noticed over the weekend the new Epson color scanner > >which is an EPP-interface and comes with an EPP card. Does anyone know/guess > > Oooh! It should work. How much is it? $1000. Looks like a nice scanner too. The Office Depot sells it. From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14731 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:40:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09450; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:28:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:28:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09440; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:28:00 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA22908; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 08:27:55 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA23440; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 08:27:54 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199411171627.IAA23440@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: external harddrives To: sk6k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sang H Kim) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 08:27:53 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Sang H Kim" at Nov 17, 94 01:25:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > btw, do I need a screen saver for my dual scan screen? No. No LCD screens, active or passive, require screen savers. Screen savers are only remotely helpful for CRT's where the phosphors could suffer burn-in. LCD's have no such problem. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sang Kim I want the world to know that I > sk6k@andrew.cmu.edu LOOOOOOOOVE Alexis Hayes, the babe from > University of Denver. (wow, what a knockout!) > > *** Alexis is my Celestial Pixie Princess :-P""" *** > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- What--this Alexis Hayes' in a Playboy "Girls of College" layout or something? ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Some guy hit my fender the | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)|other day, and I said unto him| (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | "Be fruitful and multiply." | right, they should be yours too.) | --but not in those words. | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04010 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:18:07 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11413; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:55:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:55:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11391; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:55:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199411171655.LAA11391@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from colt-8.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07676; Thu, 17 Nov 94 10:52:26 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 94 10:52:26 -0600 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: EPP X-Mailer: >parallel, parallel_2 is EPP. Two questions: 1) Why does parallel_1 even >exist? Parallel_2 does EPP or regular, making parallel_1 a crippled >redundancy. b) What is parallel_3? Does this allow us to communicate with >alien life forms and mac users? :) Well, you only have one parallel port. But the different settings make it behave in different ways. Why we have a non-EPP port available and as default? Perhaps for backward compatibility reasons with some strange and esoteric bugs? I think aliens can do bidirectional EPP... --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14784 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Nov 1994 13:46:10 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16004; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 13:01:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 13:01:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15994; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 13:01:05 -0500 From: Received: from buddy.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id KAA18502; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 10:00:59 -0800 Received: by buddy.ucsc.edu (8.6.9/4.7) id KAA09967; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 10:00:58 -0800 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 10:00:58 -0800 Message-Id: <199411171800.KAA09967@buddy.ucsc.edu> To: sk6k+@andrew.cmu.edu, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: external harddrives I am happily using the New Media Bus Toaster SCSI card to support my external SCSI drive. Its cable is thin enough (just barely) to be used at the same time as an X-jack modem, and cable for both SCSI I and SCSI II are available. When everything is running, I don't notice much, if any, difference in speed between the external and the internal hard drives, but I am not an expert on such things. Bob Meister From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15111 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Nov 1994 13:46:54 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11459; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:56:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:56:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11449; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:56:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199411171656.LAA11449@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from colt-8.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07760; Thu, 17 Nov 94 10:53:24 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 94 10:53:24 -0600 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: EPP X-Mailer: >I've never given the matter much thought, but I did notice in the FAQ that my >750 has an EPP. I also noticed over the weekend the new Epson color scanner >which is an EPP-interface and comes with an EPP card. Does anyone know/guess Oooh! It should work. How much is it? --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:28 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27670 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Nov 1994 15:14:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12355; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:08:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:08:42 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12345; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:08:40 -0500 Received: by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28483; Thu, 17 Nov 94 09:09:19 PST Date: Thu, 17 Nov 94 09:09:19 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411171709.AA28483@cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: yesRe: external harddrives In-Reply-To: Mail from 'Randal Whittle ' dated: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 08:27:53 -0800 (PST) > > btw, do I need a screen saver for my dual scan screen? > > No. No LCD screens, active or passive, require screen savers. > Screen savers are only remotely helpful for CRT's where the phosphors could > suffer burn-in. LCD's have no such problem. Actually, what you want to do with an LCD panel is shut the display OFF. While the LCD itself won't burn, the panel is backlit by a very powerful and a very expensive light (electroluminescent?). This light has a definite lifespan. This question is answered in great detail in the comp.laptops newsgroup FAQ. | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27945 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Nov 1994 15:14:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12754; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:11:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:11:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12723; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 12:11:32 -0500 Received: by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28622; Thu, 17 Nov 94 09:12:06 PST Date: Thu, 17 Nov 94 09:12:06 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411171712.AA28622@cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: external harddrives In-Reply-To: Mail from 'Sang H Kim ' dated: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 01:25:57 -0500 (EST) Cc: sk6k@andrew.cmu.edu > I have a tp755cs and a pathetic 170 meg hd which is getting very crowded. > I'm looking for an external hard disk to go along with my 170mb hd > > I guess SCSI-2 is the best huh? > > well, should I go with a pcmcia scsi-2 > or through EPP? > I already have a ethernet card (pcmcia) and the scsi-2 card might not > fit in (due to cable) and also, would the external harddisk access speed > be faster through the pcmcia scsi-2 or the epp? Sang, If performance is your primary concern, SCSI-2 is _much_ faster than the EPP port. SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 run at 5 MByte/sec, Fast SCSI-2 (synchronous) runs at 10MByte/sec. EPP runs at 960 KByte/sec -- a factor of 10 slower. | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07131 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Nov 1994 16:33:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02081; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 15:53:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 15:53:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02071; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 15:53:07 -0500 Received: by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05700; Thu, 17 Nov 94 12:53:41 PST Date: Thu, 17 Nov 94 12:53:41 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411172053.AA05700@cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: EPP In-Reply-To: Mail from 'kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress)' dated: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 13:06:14 -0500 > I asked this before, but now that we have lots of people with tech manuals > on the list, somebody might have an answer. Parallel_1 is regular > parallel, parallel_2 is EPP. Two questions: 1) Why does parallel_1 even > exist? Parallel_2 does EPP or regular, making parallel_1 a crippled > redundancy. b) What is parallel_3? Does this allow us to communicate with > alien life forms and mac users? :) Victor, According to the Technical Reference, there is one EPP compatible "parallel controller port" which is programmable as parallel port 1, 2, or 3. These appear to be logical names, so I don't understand why port 1 or 3 would act differently than port 2. Robert From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08402 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Nov 1994 19:17:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14651; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 18:48:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 18:47:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14641; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 18:47:56 -0500 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA25349 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 18:47:48 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 18:47:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 18:45:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 18:45:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Nov..4.1993.10.47.44.sun4c.411.EzMail.PC.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.pcs11.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.pcs11.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 18:45:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 18:45:54 -0500 (EST) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: scsi-2 card and warp I was wondering if Warp recognizes these PCMCIA SCSI-2 cards new media bus toaster scsi-2 and trantor slim scsi-2 also, which one is better and doesn't have bulky cables to conflict with my ethernet card? thanks in adnvace ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sang Kim I want the world to know that I sk6k@andrew.cmu.edu LOOOOOOOOVE Alexis Hayes, the babe from University of Denver. (wow, what a knockout!) * Alexis is my Beautiful Precious Celestial Pixie Princess * ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26430 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Nov 1994 20:30:43 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19008; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 20:07:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 20:06:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18998; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 20:06:55 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA15558; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 19:06:49 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 19:06:47 -0600 (CST) From: John Kim Subject: Re: scsi-2 card and warp To: Sang H Kim Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 17 Nov 1994, Sang H Kim wrote: > I was wondering if Warp recognizes these PCMCIA SCSI-2 cards I'm *dying* to know if there's *any* PCMCIA SCSI (much less SCSI-2) card that has drivers for OS/2. From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13394 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Nov 1994 21:32:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22913; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 21:12:54 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 21:12:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22902; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 21:12:49 -0500 Received: by netcom.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id SAA02505; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 18:13:01 -0800 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 18:13:01 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Hosmer Subject: Re: scsi-2 card and warp To: Thinkpad List , John Kim In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I THINK THAT GOES FOR US ALL!!! On Thu, 17 Nov 1994, John Kim wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 Nov 1994, Sang H Kim wrote: > > > I was wondering if Warp recognizes these PCMCIA SCSI-2 cards > > I'm *dying* to know if there's *any* PCMCIA SCSI (much less SCSI-2) card > that has drivers for OS/2. > > From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09159 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 18 Nov 1994 06:41:35 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04457; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 06:50:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 06:50:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04430; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 06:50:40 -0500 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 09:24:54 +0100 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Fri, 18 Nov 94 09:24:54 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 94 09:24:54 +0100 Message-Id: <9411180824.AA17656@octave.chorus.fr> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: a Hello, I saw the discussion about EPP since pas few days. It is available on 750 (and certainely on 755), but what about the 360 Serie ? -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21871 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 18 Nov 1994 10:40:56 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19525; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 10:44:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 10:44:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19506; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 10:44:03 -0500 From: Received: from ccMail by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.03) id ecccede0; Fri, 18 Nov 94 09:57:18 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 08:44:35 -0600 Message-Id: Subject: Introduction... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Content-Type: text/plain; name=Text_1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part I'm Mike Eddy and I work for Baxter Healthcare Corp. in Northern Illinois. I have a ThinkPad 755C with a 486DX4/75, 540MB HD and 20MB RAM. I use an IBM PCMCIA Token-Ring adapter and a USR WorldPort 144 PCMCIA modem. I run MS-DOS 6.2, QEMM 7.X and Windows 3.1 (waiting impatiently for Windows 95, which we should have the BETA II for next week). So many memory issues with DOS/Windows and PCMCIA. Well that's about it...I look forward to being part of this mailing list. ...Mike... From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10244 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 18 Nov 1994 11:20:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23328; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 11:23:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 11:23:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23316; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 11:23:34 -0500 From: Received: from ccMail by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.03) id eccd83d0; Fri, 18 Nov 94 10:37:17 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 10:15:38 -0600 Message-Id: Subject: Re[2]: Introduction... To: Carl Benker , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Content-Type: text/plain; name=Text_Item Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Carl, I definitely have thought of using Warp, but my company is an entirely Microsoft shop (at least for now) and I have been advised to use Windows 95 when it's available. We do have an evaluation copy of Warp running on one of our other 750C's though and it looks great... Thanks. ...Mike... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Introduction... Author: Carl Benker at INTERNET Date: 11/18/94 9:58 AM > I have a ThinkPad 755C with a 486DX4/75, 540MB HD and 20MB RAM. I use > an IBM PCMCIA Token-Ring adapter and a USR WorldPort 144 PCMCIA modem. > I run MS-DOS 6.2, QEMM 7.X and Windows 3.1 (waiting impatiently for > Windows 95, which we should have the BETA II for next week). > > So many memory issues with DOS/Windows and PCMCIA. Ever thought of using OS/2 Warp? Run all of your DOS and Windows programs and you don't need QEMM or anything else. Carl Carl Benker Commonwealth Edison Co. Go Badgers! (U. Wisconsin-Madison) System Planning Dept. Room #1239 Go Engineers! (Worcester Polytechnic P.O. Box 767 Institute .. WPI) Chicago, IL 60690-0767 email: benker@ceco.ceco.com From ???@??? Fri Nov 18 13:21:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27071 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 18 Nov 1994 11:58:11 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23677; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 11:28:47 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 11:28:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23666; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 11:28:44 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id LAA15052; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 11:31:22 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 11:31:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Donald A. Whiteside" To: Thinkpad List Subject: (fwd) 2.5" to 3.5" IDE Adapters (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Someone expressed an interest in doing this some time ago. I've done business with this guy, he's very agreeable. I might mention that you _might_ be able to adapt this on your own. The connector on a 2.5 HD is just a few extra pins that incorporate the power onto the data plug. It uses 5v only. But if you're not of a mind to jerk around...... ----------Forwarded message ---------- Path: anshar.shadow.net!usenet.cis.ufl.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!news.sprintlink.net!news.primenet.com!usenet From: larsenc@LCS.com (Craig Larsen) Newsgroups: biz.comp.hardware,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone,misc.forsale.computers.mac Subject: 2.5" to 3.5" IDE Adapters Date: Fri, 18 Nov 94 07:38:36 MST Organization: Larsen Consulting and Sales (602) 548-1542 Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3aie99$jgn@news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lcs.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.02 Xref: anshar.shadow.net biz.comp.hardware:8122 misc.forsale:166123 misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone:88533 misc.forsale.computers.mac:45174 I have approx. 150 circuit cards that perform the function of adapting an IDE 2.5" hard drive's data connector to a standard IDE cable. $25 each Qty 1 - 9 $23 each Qty 10 - 49 $20 eacg Qty 50 + Craig Larsen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Larsen Consulting and Sales HD's, CD-ROM Drives, Modems, Software & More ! 1-800-297-8051 Orders Only Over 1500 Satisfied UseNet/FidoNet Customers 602-548-1542 Author of the Winsock Application FAQ Email or Talk: larsenc@LCS.com PGP Public Key Available upon request Check out our email infoserver by sending email to: info@LCS.com We also have Web Pages: http://www.LCS.com/ From ???@??? Sat Nov 19 01:52:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02108 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Nov 1994 01:33:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11233; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 23:44:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 23:44:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from europe.std.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11222; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 23:44:37 -0500 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.6.8.1/Spike-8-1.0) id XAA04021; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 23:43:06 -0500 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA13950; Fri, 18 Nov 1994 23:43:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 23:43:05 -0500 From: eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell) Message-Id: <199411190443.AA13950@world.std.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, Carl Benker , Subject: Re: Re[2]: Introduction... Hi Carl, Just tell them that IBM copies ideas from Microsoft before Microsoft even thinks of them. Some of the features in Warp will be in Windows96. 73 Eric.. eac@world.std.com From ???@??? Sat Nov 19 02:59:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07956 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Nov 1994 02:40:56 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20446; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 02:58:22 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 02:58:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20436; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 02:58:18 -0500 Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA08305; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 07:58:39 GMT Received: from slip7-88.fl.us.ibm.net(129.37.7.88) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaOWkDM2; Sat Nov 19 07:58:13 1994 Received: by localhost (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0um) id AA0021; Fri, 18 Nov 94 18:24:51 -0800 Message-Id: <9411190224.AA0021@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 94 18:15:59 -0800 From: hosmer@ibm.net To: "Thinkpad List " Reply-To: hosmer@ibm.net Subject: Use of the list by TP3xx users X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <19_55_1_785200562> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: I wand to start off by sayig that I don't want to start a round of flame, but; as I am sure is true for everyone, I am very busy and spend a lot of time sorting and sifting though this and other lists, groups, and such. I am concerned about the quantity of postings here about TP3xx issues. The welcome letter does specify that this list is for TP7xx machines. If this list is going to turn into a TPxxx list we sould acknowledge that and then I/we can evaluate our contined involvement as such, or limited to TP7xx issues. Again, I DO NOT want to offend but prompt our attention to this potential time saving option. //---------------------------------------------------------------------------- // hosmer@imb.net From ???@??? Sat Nov 19 12:34:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11204 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Nov 1994 09:23:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18495; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 09:23:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 09:23:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gnat.cs.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18484; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 09:23:28 -0500 Received: by gnat.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA08888; Sat, 19 Nov 94 09:24:11 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 94 09:24:11 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9411191424.AA08888@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> To: hosmer@ibm.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Use of the list by TP3xx users let's just ask that people please put tp3 somewhere in the subject if that is what they are talking about, then you can easily press the d key, or set your mailer to delete any messages with tp3 in the header. From ???@??? Sat Nov 19 12:34:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12228 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Nov 1994 09:34:51 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20593; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 09:58:52 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 09:58:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20582; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 09:58:49 -0500 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from odb.rhein-main.de (193.141.47.4) with smtp id ; Sat, 19 Nov 94 15:58 MET Received: from fp.rhein-main.de by odb.rhein-main.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0r8rFM-0003hKC; Sat, 19 Nov 94 15:58 MET Message-Id: X-Sender: uwe@odb.rhein-main.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 15:57:16 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: uwe@odb.rhein-main.de (Tim Vetter) Subject: Re: Use of the list by TP3xx users X-Mailer: >I am concerned about the quantity of postings here about TP3xx issues. >The welcome letter does specify that this list is for TP7xx machines. My two cents' worth as a 750 owner: Architecturally, there are more similarities than differences between the 360 and the 75x lines, and I'd guess that a good three-quarters of the discussions here are relevant to both classes of machines. With the number of lingering technical issues surrounding these boxes, I'd be sorry to lose *any* potential worthy contributions. As for the odd non-relevant posting, I've never found hitting in my E-mailer to be a terribly painful process :-) Welcoming 360 users everywhere, Tim Vetter Frankfurt uwe@odb.rhein-main.de From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:28:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24623 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Nov 1994 13:27:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03583; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 13:50:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 13:50:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03568; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 13:50:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199411191850.NAA03568@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from ruger-95.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28834; Sat, 19 Nov 94 12:46:55 -0600 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 94 12:46:55 -0600 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: Use of the list by TP3xx users X-Mailer: >If this list is going to turn into a TPxxx list we sould acknowledge that >and then I/we can evaluate our contined involvement as such, or limited to >TP7xx issues. I think that most of the members of this list had decided a while back that this list should include discussion of the 36x series since they have so many similarities with the 75x series. I'm even trying to change the format of the FAQ in anticipation of it. I think the welcome letter is merely a reflection of a need for revision since it was made before the 3xx series was equipped with the same sort of equipment as the tp75x series. So, I for one, welcome discussion TP36x series machines. And I imagine most of the list does too. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:28:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06681 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Nov 1994 16:24:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13139; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 16:26:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 16:26:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13129; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 16:26:24 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA17022; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 15:26:21 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 16:26:53 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <59214.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Use of the list by TP3xx users In message Sat, 19 Nov 94 12:46:55 -0600, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) writes: > >> If this list is going to turn into a TPxxx list we sould acknowledge >> that and then I/we can evaluate our contined involvement as such, or >> limited to TP7xx issues. > > I think that most of the members of this list had decided a while > back that this list should include discussion of the 36x series > since they have so many similarities with the 75x series. I'm even > trying to change the format of the FAQ in anticipation of it. As far as I know, the only difference between the 355/360 and 750/755 are: FPU, different video BIOS (due to screen differences), audio support, available configurations at purchase time, and probably one or two other small details. Oh yeah, one starts with the number 3 and the other starts with the number 7. Everything else is the same. They even use the same system and utility disks. It'd be silly to exclude the 355 and 360. I *would* like to know if IBM was stupid enough to use different size connectors for the 360 hard drive, since last I checked the listed HD options were different than for the 755 series. _____________________________________________________________________ |\_____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | | | jokim@mit.edu | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:28:34 1994 Received: from WILMA.CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24093 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Nov 1994 17:42:29 -0600 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id SAA16553; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 18:40:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199411192340.SAA16553@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Use of the list by TP3xx users In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 19 Nov 1994 12:46:55 CST." <199411191850.NAA03568@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 18:39:59 -0500 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu > I think the welcome letter is merely a reflection of a need for > revision since it was made before the 3xx series was equipped with > the same sort of equipment as the tp75x series. The welcome letter currently reads as follows, and has since at least August 12. (I think the following paragraph is actually a bit older) ] This list is for general discussion among ThinkPad 75X owners and users, ] including the various TP750, TP755, and TP360 models. These models are ] internally very different from the 350, 500, and 720 series machines, and ] much of the stuff discussed here won't apply to the latter group of ] machines. Note that the 360 model is explicitly included. Suggestions for edits to the above paragraph are welcome; please just send them to me unless you really think the list needs to argue about it. As for the problem of off-topic posts: this list has one of the highest S/N ratios of any I've seen. Keith Moore From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:28:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27543 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Nov 1994 20:49:57 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28612; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 21:10:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 21:10:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28600; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 21:10:10 -0500 Received: from atlas.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23089; Sat, 19 Nov 94 18:10:50 PST Date: Sat, 19 Nov 94 18:10:50 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411200210.AA23089@cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 355/360/755 Hard Disk Connector In-Reply-To: Mail from '"John H. Kim" ' dated: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 16:26:53 -0500 (EST) > I *would* like to know if IBM was stupid enough to use different size > connectors for the 360 hard drive, since last I checked the listed HD > options were different than for the 755 series. John, As I replied before, the technical reference manual says that the 355, 360 and 755 all use the same 60 pin D-connector. From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:28:39 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28385 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Nov 1994 20:54:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28916; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 21:11:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 21:11:34 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28906; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 21:11:33 -0500 Received: from atlas.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23106; Sat, 19 Nov 94 18:12:13 PST Date: Sat, 19 Nov 94 18:12:13 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411200212.AA23106@cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 355/360/755 Hard Disk Connector > I *would* like to know if IBM was stupid enough to use different size > connectors for the 360 hard drive, since last I checked the listed HD > options were different than for the 755 series. John, As I replied before, the technical reference manual says that the 355, 360 and 755 all use the same 60 pin D-connector. | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:28:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00065 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Nov 1994 21:04:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29228; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 21:17:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 21:17:21 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29218; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 21:17:20 -0500 Received: from atlas.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23205; Sat, 19 Nov 94 18:18:00 PST Date: Sat, 19 Nov 94 18:18:00 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411200218.AA23205@cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Use of the list by TP3xx users In-Reply-To: Mail from 'Keith Moore ' dated: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 18:39:59 -0500 > > I think the welcome letter is merely a reflection of a need for > > revision since it was made before the 3xx series was equipped with > > the same sort of equipment as the tp75x series. > > The welcome letter currently reads as follows, and has since at least > August 12. (I think the following paragraph is actually a bit older) > > ] This list is for general discussion among ThinkPad 75X owners and users, > ] including the various TP750, TP755, and TP360 models. These models are > ] internally very different from the 350, 500, and 720 series machines, and > ] much of the stuff discussed here won't apply to the latter group of > ] machines. > > Note that the 360 model is explicitly included. I've just glanced through the past two months of postings. I've found very few technical issues that apply to the 75x's that _don't_ apply to the 36x's, and vice versa. BTW, the IBM technical reference manual for the 755 is titled "ThinkPad 355/360/755 Technical Reference" | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:28:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27133 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 00:07:10 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10892; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 00:18:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 00:18:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10882; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 00:18:20 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA25480; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 21:18:13 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id VAA01325; Sat, 19 Nov 1994 21:18:10 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199411200518.VAA01325@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: (fwd) 2.5" to 3.5" IDE Adapters (fwd) To: dwhite@shadow.net (Donald A. Whiteside) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 21:18:09 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP), larsenc@LCS.com In-Reply-To: from "Donald A. Whiteside" at Nov 18, 94 11:31:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Someone expressed an interest in doing this some time ago. I've done > business with this guy, he's very agreeable. > ----------Forwarded message ---------- > I have approx. 150 circuit cards that perform the function of adapting an > IDE 2.5" hard drive's data connector to a standard IDE cable. > > $25 each Qty 1 - 9 > $23 each Qty 10 - 49 > $20 eacg Qty 50 + > > > Craig Larsen > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Larsen Consulting and Sales HD's, CD-ROM Drives, Modems, Software & More ! > 1-800-297-8051 Orders Only Over 1500 Satisfied UseNet/FidoNet Customers > 602-548-1542 Author of the Winsock Application FAQ > Email or Talk: larsenc@LCS.com PGP Public Key Available upon requ HA HA HA HA!!! The world is smaller than I had realized! I too have done business with Mr. Larsen and would add my voice to say that he is indeed very agreeable. He definitely understands the concept of customer service and I would highly recommend him to anyone. He very handily got me some SyQuest removable cartridges at some fairly good prices. ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Some guy hit my fender the | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)|other day, and I said unto him| (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | "Be fruitful and multiply." | right, they should be yours too.) | --but not in those words. | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:29:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08694 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 05:17:13 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10441; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 05:41:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 05:41:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from iaehv.iaehv.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10431; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 05:41:57 -0500 Received: from localhost by iaehv.iaehv.nl (8.6.8/1.63) id LAA14845; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 11:41:51 +0100 Message-Id: <199411201041.LAA14845@iaehv.iaehv.nl> X-Disclaimer: iaehv.nl is a public access UNIX system and cannot be held responsible for the opinions of its individual users. X-Sender: robr@iaehv.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 11:41:04 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: robr@iaehv.nl (Rob Ruggenberg) Subject: Re: Use of the list by TP3xx users >>If this list is going to turn into a TPxxx list we sould acknowledge that >>and then I/we can evaluate our contined involvement as such, or limited to >>TP7xx issues. ] This list is for general discussion among ThinkPad 75X owners and users, ] including the various TP750, TP755, and TP360 models. These models are ] internally very different from the 350, 500, and 720 series machines, and ] much of the stuff discussed here won't apply to the latter group of ] machines. Until now little is heard from the 700- and 720-owners. Are they still allowed to get this mail, or is this mailinglist going to be exclusive for non-PS2 Thinkpad-owners? _______________________ Rob Ruggenberg The Netherlands E-mail: robr@iaehv.nl 'Half the work that is done in this world is to make things appear what they are not.' (Elias Root Beadle) ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:29:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13329 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 06:59:37 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17898; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 07:19:30 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 07:19:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from redgate.glas.apc.org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17888; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 07:19:20 -0500 Received: from glas.apc.org by redgate.glas.apc.org with esmtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r9BET-000GpxN; Sun, 20 Nov 94 15:19 +0300 Received: by glas.apc.org (Smail3.1.28.1 #12) id m0r9BEr-0006xeN; Sun, 20 Nov 94 15:19 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Nov 94 15:19 +0300 From: dkachalov@glas.apc.org (Dmitry Kachalov) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: PAL/SECAM/NTSC TV tuner for ThinkPad 755C ??? Hi, happy ThinkPad owners! I wonder if someone know about multi-system TV tuner for ThinkPad 755C? We've ordered one but it's only NTSC so absolutely USELESS in Russia. But idea is great... SY, Dmitry Kachalov from Moscow Russia From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:29:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22528 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:01:24 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28983; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:17:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:17:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28973; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:17:32 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA08488 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:17:25 -0500 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA29480; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 04:18:25 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 04:18:24 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: An idea of things to come Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A press release I found on new IBM Hard drive technology. Looks like their next subnotebook model after the 510 will have a 720MB hard drive as an option. --------------- IBM ANNOUNCES PACE-SETTING DISK DRIVES FOR OEM PCS, WORKSTATIONS, SERVERS October 11, 1994 SAN JOSE, Calif., October 11 . . . IBM Corporation today introduced new families of 2.5- and 3.5-inch disk drives that deliver unparalleled data storage capacity, reliability and performance across a broad spectrum of systems. These important additions to IBM's disk drive portfolio for Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs) include: - the Travelstar LP family, which offers the highest-capacity, highest-performance, most-robust 2.5-inch low-profile drive in production anywhere. This is a slim-line, 1/2-inch (12.5 millimeters) high, 720 megabyte (MB) drive for notebook and sub-notebook computers, with an 11.1 megabyte per second (MB/sec) data transfer rate and the ability to tolerate non-operational shock loads up to 500G (500 times the force of gravity); - the Deskstar XP family, a selection of 1-inch high, 3.5-inch drives -- including a 1.08 gigabyte (GB) model with just two platters -- that, for the first time, gives users of high-end desktop systems and entry-level servers and workstations the speed and transfer rates of high-end workstation drives and network servers -- at affordable prices; - the Ultrastar2, a high-speed drive with a 10.8GB capacity -- the highest capacity yet announced for a 3.5-inch drive -- and the Ultrastar2 XP, an 8.7GB high-performance drive. The 10.8GB and 8.7GB drives come in a package only 1.6 inches (41.3 mm) high and are targeted for the high-end server marketplace. "Manufacturers of notebook and desktop computers, workstations, network servers and high-end systems are increasingly turning to storage as a means of differentiating their product offerings," said Ed Zschau, general manager, IBM Storage Systems Division. "With the products announced today, OEM customers will be able to specify 2.5-inch and 3.5-inch drives with IBM's most advanced technology to achieve the capacity, reliability and price/performance they need to stay competitive in the dynamic and rapidly changing computer market." As another sign of IBM's long-term commitment to compete aggressively in the hard disk drive marketplace, IBM products will now utilize "family" names to help OEM and distribution customers better recognize and understand the various attributes associated with the disk drives. The Travelstar family is IBM's series of 2.5-inch disk drives used mainly for mobile computing; the Deskstar name refers to IBM's 3.5-inch offerings aimed at desktop computer and entry-level server platforms, while the Ultrastar family -- a group of drives with capacities of one gigabyte and above -- is aimed at high-end desktop and workstation users. The Ultrastar XP series includes IBM's highest performance drives for high-end computing requirements. The Travelstar and Ultrastar families include drives that are already being marketed under other designations, as well as the new drives announced today. "The family names for our new disk drive products speak to the positions we expect them to achieve as we continue our aggressive push into the OEM marketplace," said Fred Wiele, vice president, worldwide sales and marketing for storage products. "We've demonstrated leadership in bringing to market a complete line up of disk drives with IBM's proven magneto-resistive head technology, and we think that will cause customers to recognize our drives as true 'stars' in the industry." The new IBM disk drives announced today are aimed directly at the marketplace for manufacturers of 486-, Pentium- and PowerPC-based mobile and desktop computers. Makers of workstations and network servers, and manufacturers of storage subsystems are also expected to find these drives attractive for use in their products. All drives announced today use the industry's most advanced data storage technologies, including IBM's No-ID sector formatting and advanced magneto-resistive (MR) head technology, which is key to achieving very high densities of data storage. All are designed for pace-setting levels of quality and reliability. Travelstar LP HIGHEST-CAPACITY, HIGHEST-PERFORMANCE, MOST-ROBUST 2.5-INCH DRIVES, MODELS DBOA-2360, DBOA-2540 AND DBOA-2720 Members of IBM's new Travelstar LP family of 2.5-inch disk drives store up to 720MB of data in a two-disk package only 12.5mm (1/2-inch) high -- a capacity 300MB greater than any other 12.5mm-high, 2.5-inch drive in the marketplace. The Travelstar LP drives use IBM's space-saving No-ID sector formatting and advanced magneto-resistive (MR) head technology to store data at an industry-leading areal density of 644 million bits per square inch. This provides the drives with storage capacities of 360MB per disk -- 70 percent more capacity than the 210MB per-disk capacity of a 2.5-inch drive recently announced by a competitor. As a result of today's announcement, users of notebook and sub-notebook computers now have the data storage capacity and performance they need to run the newest, most powerful desktop operating systems and storage-intensive application programs. The new Travelstar LP drives, with capacities of 360MB, 540MB and 720MB, operate at data transfer rates as high as 11.1 MB/sec, making them the fastest 2.5-inch drives in the marketplace. They are equipped with an AT interface. An important attribute of these drives is their ability to tolerate non-operational shock loads as high as 500G without degradation of product specifications. This is 200G higher than the load tolerated by any other announced 2.5-inch drive and is intended to ensure data integrity while the system is in transit. In addition, the drives incorporate shock sensors that cause data writing to be interrupted so that data on the disk will not be damaged as a result of operational shocks as high as 100G. Also adding to their outstanding suitability for use in mobile computing is the fact that the drives weigh only 140 grams. The drives offer exceptional power management features and are specified at 300,000 hours mean time between failures. For ease of integration, they are built to the mounting standards of the Manufacturers Compatibility Committee (MCC). The Travelstar LP family of 2.5-inch drives is available now in volume to OEM customers. Model DBOA-2360 is priced at $395, Model DBOA-2540, at $595, and Model DBOA-2720, at $695. Deskstar XP AFFORDABLE 3.5-INCH LOW-PROFILE DRIVES BRING WORKSTATION PERFORMANCE TO DESKTOP SYSTEMS: MODELS DPEA-30540, DPEA-31080, DPES-30540 AND DPES-31080 With their popular capacities and competitive prices, members of IBM's new Deskstar XP family of low-profile 3.5-inch disk drives bring to high-end desktop computer and entry-level workstation and server users the performance normally specified for drives used in more powerful workstations and network servers. Deskstar XP drives provide a single-disk capacity of 540MB and a two-disk capacity of 1.08GB. They operate at 5400 RPM and support bus data transfer rates as high as 11.1MB/sec across an AT interface and up to 10MB/sec with a SCSI-2 interface. More importantly, with their high linear recording density, these drives deliver sustained data rates of 3.2 to 4.0MB/sec. The Deskstar XP drives reach new levels of performance in providing cost-effective, high-speed data storage across a wide range of systems, and can easily meet the data storage demands of entry-level technical and engineering workstations, desktop publishing, From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:29:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22528 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:01:24 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28983; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:17:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:17:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28973; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:17:32 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA08488 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:17:25 -0500 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA29480; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 04:18:25 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 04:18:24 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: An idea of things to come Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII word-processing and graphics applications, spreadsheets and single-user data bases. Deskstar XP drives operate with industry-leading power dissipation as low as 3.3 watts (for 1.08GB models in "idle" mode), and are specified at 500,000 hours mean time between failures. The drives are immediately available in volume to OEM customers. Models DPEA-30540 and DPES-30540, with AT and SCSI interfaces, respectively, are priced at $495, and Models DPEA-31080 and DPES-31080, with AT and SCSI interfaces, respectively, are priced at $695. Ultrastar2 and Ultrastar2 XP HIGHEST-CAPACITY, HIGHEST-PERFORMANCE 3.5-INCH DRIVES, MODELS DCMS-310800, DCHS-38700 and DCHC-38700 IBM's new Ultrastar2 and Ultrastar2 XP high-end 3.5-inch drives are intended to be direct replacements for larger, high-capacity 5.25-inch drives across a wide range of applications. They are designed to meet the data storage needs of network users, large-scale imaging and graphics applications, and designers of multi-disk RAID storage subsystems. Ultrastar2 will offer 10.8GB and Ultrastar2 XP, 8.7GB in a 3.5-inch package only 1.6 inches (41.3mm) high. The high capacities and low-profile packaging of these drives are made possible by IBM's No-ID sector formatting and advanced, third-generation magneto-resistive head technology. The 10.8GB drive is designed to operate at 5400 RPM and to support a media data transfer rate of up to 14.2MB/sec. It will be equipped with a Fast and Wide SCSI interface. The 8.7GB drive will operate at 7200 RPM and support a maximum media data transfer rate of 14.2MB/sec. The drive combines high capacity with the very high performance needed for high-end storage subsystems and specialized applications such as full-motion video. It will be offered with a number of interfaces, including SCSI Fast, SCSI Fast and Wide, SCA 80-pin connectors and Serial Storage Architecture (SSA). To provide high effective data transfer rates in all applications, both drives will use sector servos rather than dedicated servo surfaces. This eliminates the need for the thermal calibration routines that can interrupt the flow of data, thereby making these drives ideal for applications requiring continuous data streams. Evaluation units of the 10.8GB and 8.7GB drives are planned for availability to OEM customers during the 3rd quarter of 1995. Pricing will be announced prior to availability. IBM is a world-wide developer, manufacturer and marketer of a broad range of storage products for OEM computer makers, for use in IBM computing systems, and for sale in commercial distribution channels. IBM storage products are available from a wide range of commercial resellers and from IBM, under the Options by IBM* brand name. *IBM, No-ID, Options by IBM and PowerPC are registered trademarks and Travelstar, Deskstar and Ultrastar are trademarks of IBM Corporation. Pentium and 486 are trademarks or registered trademarks of Intel Corporation. Editors/Reporters: Information on how IBM calculates mean time between failures (MTBF) is available upon request. Fact Sheet IBM ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES PAVE WAY TO HIGH CAPACITY, PERFORMANCE AND RELIABILITY FOR HARD DISK DRIVES The high levels of performance, capacity and quality brought to the OEM marketplace by the three new disk drive families announced today result from the application of the industry's most advanced recording and manufacturing technologies. These include third-generation magneto resistive (MR) head technology, third-generation PRML digital read channels, and IBM's No-ID sector formatting. MAGNETO-RESISTIVE HEAD TECHNOLOGY MR heads permit data stored at very high areal densities (the amount of data stored per square inch of disk surface) to be read accurately. This increases overall disk drive capacity and throughput, while reducing the number of heads and disks required for a given capacity. MR heads comprise separate read and write elements. The write element is essentially identical to that of a standard read/write inductive head. The read element is an alloy film that changes resistance in the presence of the flux reversals that represent data -- the MR effect. IBM developed MR head technology and has been shipping it in disk drives since 1991. MR heads are now used in all of IBM's current disk drive families. PARTIAL RESPONSE/MAXIMUM LIKELIHOOD CHANNEL TECHNOLOGY PRML (Partial Response/Maximum Likelihood) read channels are a major advance over the conventional peak-detection channels now used in most disk drives, and are expected to become widely used throughout the industry during this decade as peak-detection technology reaches its practical limits. PRML channels take samples of the waveforms that represent data as they come off the disk, and use this information, rather than the waveforms themselves, to construct the data stream. The result is a dramatic increase in the ability of a drive to resolve correctly the read pulses representing data stored at very high linear densities, adding to improved drive performance. PRML channels have been included in high-end disk drives from IBM since 1990 and are offered in the newly announced 10.8GB and 8.7GB disk drives. SERIAL STORAGE ARCHITECTURE INTERFACE Serial Storage Architecture (SSA) is a powerful high-speed serial interface that permits transfer rates as high as 80 MB/sec in full duplex serial loops, and supports storage configurations that are currently not practical with other interfaces, including the use of fiber optics. The Ultrastar2 XP drive, operating at 7200 RPM, can be equipped with SSA interfaces. PREDICTIVE FAILURE ANALYSIS PFA periodically performs a number of internal drive tests and monitors key drive parameters such as noise levels and flying heights. It can detect when a particular drive parameter has been exceeded and can notify the user early enough to prevent data integrity from being affected. PFA was first introduced in IBM high-end drives in 1993 and is included in the design of the new Ultrastar2 and Ultrastar2 XP disk drives. NO-ID SECTOR FORMATTING IBM's proprietary No-ID sector formatting decreases disk drive overhead and increases storage capacity by removing the ID, or header, fields preceding each data sector from the disk surface and storing the information in these fields in a solid-state memory. Header information can consume up to 15 percent of the total available disk space. Moving it from the disk surface to memory frees up this overhead space for increased data storage. The use of No-ID sector formatting in IBM's mobile disk drives was announced in May 1994 and is included in the new Travelstar LP, Deskstar XP, Ultrastar2 and Ultrastar2 XP disk drives announced today. Please Note: Questions about the content or currency of this press release should be directed to your local IBM representative. From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:29:39 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22535 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:01:26 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28971; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:17:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:17:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28961; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:17:21 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA08475 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:17:17 -0500 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA33853; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 04:20:20 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 04:20:19 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New Overnight Easyserv option Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Another press release of interest to this list. ------------------ IBM ANNOUNCES THINKPAD EASYSERV OVERNIGHT REPAIR OPTION November 8, 1994 WHITE PLAINS, N.Y., Nov. 8 . . . IBM today announced a first-of-its-kind overnight "quick response" repair service for its mobile PCs. This new nationwide service option for IBM mobile products targets the wide range of business and professional travelers who rely upon IBM mobile computers as an essential work tool. The service, known as ThinkPad* EasyServ overnight repair option, will allow owners to ship their IBM mobile products via FedEx from most locations in the continental U.S. and have the repaired unit returned the next business day to the same location or a different city. For example, a business traveler can ship her mobile PC from New York on Monday and receive the repaired unit in Los Angeles on Tuesday. There will be a charge of $99 (by credit card only) for ThinkPad EasyServ next-day repair. This new service, available in January 1995, marks a major enhancement of ThinkPad EasyServ, which already provides convenient pickup-and-return repair service. Standard ThinkPad EasyServ, with an average turnaround of two business days, currently is offered at no charge to customers with IBM mobile products that are under warranty or IBM maintenance agreements. To provide this overnight repair service, IBM will use the capabilities of Technology Service Solutions (TSS), an IBM-Kodak joint venture established in 1993 to provide competitively priced, single-source service to the multivendor desktop, LAN and client/server environment. TSS has created an overnight national service depot in Memphis and is working with FedEx Logistics Services, a division of Federal Express Corporation, to expedite the entire repair and shipment process. Owners of IBM mobile products now have the assurance of knowing that ThinkPad EasyServ is available on an overnight basis, even if they're traveling across the country. Working with Technology Service Solutions, IBM can now deliver not just the industry's fastest repair service, but also the most user-friendly. "This unique repair service spells peace of mind for mobile product owners," said Richard J. Hernandez, chief executive officer of Technology Service Solutions, based in Valley Forge, Pa. "Our combination of overnight turnaround and truly personalized mobile service makes this the perfect solution for the growing number of corporate and individual owners who need full availability from their mobile systems." This premium repair service is also available to international customers covered by an International Enhanced Maintenance Service Contract while traveling in the U.S. * Indicates trademark or registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation Please Note: Questions about the content or currency of this press release should be directed to your local IBM representative. From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:29:44 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25361 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:26:54 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01171; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:46:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:46:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gnat.cs.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01160; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:46:09 -0500 Received: by gnat.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA19816; Sun, 20 Nov 94 10:46:51 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 94 10:46:51 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9411201546.AA19816@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> To: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New Overnight Easyserv option I missed the cost of this service also, can one assume that you can send in the machine WITHOUT the hard disk, keeping the disk safely in one's own pocket? From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:29:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27577 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:46:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02681; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 11:08:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 11:08:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chenas.inria.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02648; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 11:07:57 -0500 Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by chenas.inria.fr (5.65c8d/92.02.29) via Fnet-EUnet id AA27356; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 17:07:47 +0100 (MET) Received: by asimov.cnam.fr id RAA09667 (8.6.9/); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 17:07:47 +0100 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 17:07:47 +0100 Message-Id: <199411201607.RAA09667@asimov.cnam.fr> To: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu, hosseino@yu1.yu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New Overnight Easyserv option Well, perhaps IBM will learn about europe one day . My 720C has been in and out of repair 3 times in the year and 3 months since I got it, with min 1 week, and once 3 weeks wait, as they don't stock parts here and don't really care. I've junked it, too unreliable for real use - it overheats and they are incapable of locating the intermittent fault. So when it puts up a diagnostic scree it goes back , then they say we cannot find anything etc. The screen has also been replaced once for lack of brightness, and is now starting to flicker so will probably be replaced again, if I bother. I am not going to buy another IBM machine, not because the people are nasty, but because their service structure in europe is not able to deal with the reality of people who pay 6K$ for a notebook needing 2 or 3 day service. Edmund. From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:29:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18997 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 12:59:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09134; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 13:04:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 13:04:30 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from iaehv.iaehv.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09124; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 13:04:28 -0500 Received: from localhost by iaehv.iaehv.nl (8.6.8/1.63) id TAA11032; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 19:04:21 +0100 Message-Id: <199411201804.TAA11032@iaehv.iaehv.nl> X-Disclaimer: iaehv.nl is a public access UNIX system and cannot be held responsible for the opinions of its individual users. X-Sender: robr@iaehv.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 19:03:32 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: robr@iaehv.nl (Rob Ruggenberg) Subject: Re: New Overnight Easyserv option Eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) wrote: >Well, perhaps IBM will learn about europe one day . My 720C has been in >and out of repair 3 times in the year and 3 months since I got it, with >min 1 week, and once 3 weeks wait, as they don't stock parts here and >don't really care. I've junked it, too unreliable for real use - it I completely agree. My 720C was f..cked up three times. The first time IBM kept the machine for a month, and when I got it back you could hear all kind of parts loose in the machine. I do not dare to shake it anymore, afraid it falls apart. - Rob _______________________ Rob Ruggenberg The Netherlands E-mail: robr@iaehv.nl 'Half the work that is done in this world is to make things appear what they are not.' (Elias Root Beadle) ____________________________________________________________________________ From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:29:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27406 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 15:27:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18891; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 15:33:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 15:33:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18881; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 15:33:45 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA24904; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 12:33:42 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id MAA17259; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 12:33:36 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199411202033.MAA17259@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: New Overnight Easyserv option To: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 12:33:35 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199411201607.RAA09667@asimov.cnam.fr> from "Edmund Ronald" at Nov 20, 94 05:07:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Well, perhaps IBM will learn about europe one day . My 720C has been in > and out of repair 3 times in the year and 3 months since I got it, with > min 1 week, and once 3 weeks wait, as they don't stock parts here and > I am not going to buy another IBM machine, not because the people are nasty, > but because their service structure in europe is not able to deal with the > reality of people who pay 6K$ for a notebook needing 2 or 3 day service. So is there a good notebook computer mfgr. with facilities in Europe that *can* help you? If there is, I applaud your decision to choose a company with good service. If not, then you are cutting off your nose to spite your face. Alas, I too have been angry with IBM on *many* occasions. Fortunately, with the exception of inflated battery life claims, my ThinkPad 750C has never been the reason. ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Some guy hit my fender the | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)|other day, and I said unto him| (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | "Be fruitful and multiply." | right, they should be yours too.) | --but not in those words. | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Mon Nov 21 01:29:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03627 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Nov 1994 23:03:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18399; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 23:11:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 23:11:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18389; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 23:11:12 -0500 Received: (from halinatr@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA16010; Sun, 20 Nov 1994 23:10:38 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 23:10:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Darren P. McCabe" Subject: Upgrading my 750 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm in the process of upgrading my TP750, 170MB HD, 20 MB RAM. I really need more storage, and am planning to switch to OS/2 Warp. Therefore, 2 questions: 1. Cheapest way to upgrade to 340MB or above HD (Including used) 2. Best way to go OS/2 when most of my software is WIN. 3. Thoughts on native OS/2 software (PIMS, Database, WP, Spreadsheets Etc.) Any input would be helpful! Thanks! Hal McCabe From ???@??? Wed Nov 23 11:07:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02127 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 22 Nov 1994 08:12:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA22996; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 07:51:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 07:51:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from gnat.cs.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA22986; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 07:51:16 -0500 Received: by gnat.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA11450; Tue, 22 Nov 94 07:52:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 07:52:00 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9411221252.AA11450@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu, patrick.whittick@fonix.org Subject: Re: New Overnight Easyserv o one problem with this kind of internet interaction is that it can give a false impression of service in general. One "drunk pissed-off" [his words! ???] annoyed customer can generate an impression of general bad service which may not be justified. Generally people who *have* had good service will not write to say so. Also, the issue of reliability is more *not* needing service (I have owned a 700C, 720C, 750C and 755C, shortly to be replaced by a 755CD), and none of my machines have ever needed servicing. So I would advise people not to rush to judgment on this issue, in the absence of some meaningful statistics or a reasonably comprehensive survey. From ???@??? Wed Nov 23 11:07:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03634 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 22 Nov 1994 08:18:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16570; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 05:46:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 05:46:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from mailgate.exnet.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16552; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 05:45:46 -0500 Received: from exnet.com (assam.exnet.com) by mailgate.exnet.com with SMTP id AA20630 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 22 Nov 1994 10:45:32 GMT Received: from fonix.UUCP by exnet.com with UUCP id AA13021 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU); Tue, 22 Nov 1994 10:45:28 GMT To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: New Overnight Easyserv o From: patrick.whittick@fonix.org (Patrick Whittick) Message-Id: <3694.150.uupcb@fonix.org> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 16:00:00 -0100 Organization: FONiX Info Systems ~ Binfield, UK ~ +44 (344) 306986/7/8/9 Reply-To: patrick.whittick@fonix.org (Patrick Whittick) RR>>Well, perhaps IBM will learn about europe one day . My 720C has been RR>in >and out of repair 3 times in the year and 3 months since I got RR>it, with >min 1 week, and once 3 weeks wait, as they don't stock RR>parts here and >don't really care. I've junked it, too unreliable for RR>real use - it RR>I completely agree. My 720C was f..cked up three times. The first RR>time IBM kept the machine for a month, and when I got it back you RR>could hear all kind of parts loose in the machine. I do not dare to RR>shake it anymore, afraid it falls apart. I guess I should count my blessings: I may have had problems with my ThinkPads, but IBM in Britain have been *very* good at quickly resolving _all_ problems we've had. I've often had IBM engineers here within four hours, and they can usually get any required parts overnight from the Greenock plant. Regards patrick.whittick@fonix.org - Patrick Whittick in Daventry, England --- . CMPQwk 1.42-16 9237 . Lighten up and laugh at yourself. 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Wed Nov 23 11:08:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26605 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 22 Nov 1994 11:55:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05094; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 10:37:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 10:37:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05064; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 10:37:01 -0500 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from odb.rhein-main.de (193.141.47.4) with smtp id ; Tue, 22 Nov 94 16:36 MET Received: from fp.rhein-main.de by odb.rhein-main.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0r9xGc-0003iEC; Tue, 22 Nov 94 16:36 MET Message-Id: X-Sender: uwe@odb.rhein-main.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 16:34:36 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: uwe@odb.rhein-main.de (Tim Vetter) Subject: Service experiences X-Mailer: Robert Dewar wrote: >one problem with this kind of internet interaction is that it can give >a false impression of service in general. One "drunk pissed-off" >[his words! ???] annoyed customer can generate an impression of general >bad service which may not be justified. Generally people who *have* had >good service will not write to say so. OK then, for the record, my experiences with the IBM service organization in Frankfurt Germany have been *first rate*. Friendly, professional, fast, thorough. A small bonus, after two visits to the repair shop the receptionist even knows me by name and flirts shamelessly ;-) I suspect that one's experiences with a particular service outfit have little to do with corporate policy (or lack thereof) and more to do with the quality of the *individuals* on the scene. Generalizing to a whole regional organization (IBM Europe!) based on one shop's competence or lack thereof is wildly misguided. Furthermore: Like all relationships, what you get out has a lot to do with what you put in. In my experience, treating the working stiffs with courtesy, respect and good humour goes a long way towards earning top-notch customer service. All else being equal, blustering in pissed-off and red-faced seeking blood and justice is probably gonna get your work order to the bottom of the pile in a big hurry. I guess in a utopian world of detached corporate "professionalism" this wouldn't matter, but we are after all dealing here with human beings in all their glorious imperfection. [soap_box_mode OFF] Tim Vetter Frankfurt uwe@odb.rhein-main.de |------------------------------------| | Have you hugged your techs today?" | |------------------------------------| From ???@??? Wed Nov 23 11:08:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16248 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 22 Nov 1994 12:38:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07623; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 11:06:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 11:06:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom8.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07605; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 11:06:42 -0500 Received: by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id IAA26628; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 08:05:56 -0800 Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 08:05:56 -0800 (PST) From: "Martin P. Smith" Subject: Re: New Overnight Easyserv o To: Robert Dewar Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, patrick.whittick@fonix.org In-Reply-To: <9411221252.AA11450@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII But it can be an issue of service. I paid for a three year on site agreement when I got my thinkpad. I am glad I did as so far I have had the following serviced since March this year. Two keyboards ( trackpoint failure) One screen. It died on a flight to Philadelphia. ( repaired in my hotel room One Motherboard. I must have got a Lemon but by now I have a completely new machine ;-) :-) The point is I NEVER waited more than 24 hours for service. If you have not done it already I would call and get the On-site warranty ( US al least ) It covers on-site service ANYWHERE in the US. cost was $180 I think on my 750C. Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.COM On Tue, 22 Nov 1994, Robert Dewar wrote: > one problem with this kind of internet interaction is that it can give > a false impression of service in general. One "drunk pissed-off" > [his words! ???] annoyed customer can generate an impression of general > bad service which may not be justified. Generally people who *have* had > good service will not write to say so. Also, the issue of reliability > is more *not* needing service (I have owned a 700C, 720C, 750C and > 755C, shortly to be replaced by a 755CD), and none of my machines have > ever needed servicing. > > So I would advise people not to rush to judgment on this issue, in the > absence of some meaningful statistics or a reasonably comprehensive > survey. > From ???@??? Wed Nov 23 11:08:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01930 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 22 Nov 1994 13:14:34 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05725; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 10:44:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 10:44:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nic.hookup.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05715; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 10:44:09 -0500 From: Received: from (jjames.hookup.net [198.133.162.54]) by nic.hookup.net (8.6.9/1.284) with SMTP id KAA11997; Tue, 22 Nov 1994 10:35:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 10:35:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199411221535.KAA11997@nic.hookup.net> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Warp on 755C X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) Well I've put Warp on my 755C and have a couple of quesitons. Anyone know of OS/2 Drivers for the Xircom PS2 Ethernet PCMCIA card or the BusToaster SCSI card. Alternatively, does anyone know of any E'net or SCSI cards that have OS/2 Drivers. I can't get the Card and Socket services to use my Sundisk Flash Card or Western Digital PCMCIA Hard Drive. They get recognized but status shows not ready. After install, OS/2 setup says I can only display 16 colours. Install correctly idendified the Western Digital accelerator chip but I can't figure out how to get it to use the full 256 colours. Starting a Windows session in OS/2 causes Windows Program Manager to show an error message and request to run setup from DOS and install Windows for a MSDOS with APM computer. Windows is already set up this way and changing back and forth does not help. I can click the ok and keep going but then it keeps beeping. When Dual Booting (warm booting) to DOS the speaker is switched to full volume and can't be turned down with the usual up/down arrows. Cold booting returns things to normal. Otherwise, it's great. I've managed to run all day without running out of windows resources. I've run stuff that would crash any DOS machine but could recover by simply closing the window. Love it. Thanks in advance for any help you folks can provide. Jerry James From ???@??? Mon Nov 28 00:12:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14142 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Nov 1994 14:56:36 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02171; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 14:26:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 14:26:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02149; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 14:26:13 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA06461; Wed, 23 Nov 94 12:25:32 MST Date: Wed, 23 Nov 94 12:25:32 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9411231925.AA06461@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Warp & SVGA video This is a follow-up to my previous post regarding Warp and SVGA video. (Note that this is applicable to all Thinkpads which use the WD90C24 video controller chip.) Problem: SVGA video working OK after initial installation of Warp, but becomes corrupted after BIOS upgrade. Solution: Folowing the BIOS upgrade procedure, DO NOT run the Easy Setup System Diagnostics as indicated in the BIOS upgrade documentation. If for some reason you need to run the diagnostics, or, as in my case, you have already done so, you will need to recreate the OS/2 SVGADATA.PMI file. Explanation: SVGADATA.PMI is a file OS/2 uses to "capture the state of the video adapter" (quoting from the Warp User's Guide). Once captured, this file is used every time the system is started to define certain display parameters. The User's Guide also mentions that some "video configuration programs" may wreak havoc with this file, ultimately causing video corruption. It turns out that the video test subset of the Easy Setup Diagnostics just so happens to be one of these troublemakers. P.239 of the User's Guide walks you through the steps necessary to recreate the SVGADATA.PMI file; however, by avoiding the post BIOS upgrade diagnostics, you shouldn't need to mess with this. In short, the BIOS upgrade itself is not to blame for the OS/2 video corruption; rather, the Easy Setup System Diagnostics are the guilty party. Hope this helps someone down the road....... _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | (kyeanopl@den.mmc.com) Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Denver, CO. 80201 | From ???@??? Mon Nov 28 00:12:27 1994 Received: from faroe.vp.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02822 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Nov 1994 15:53:16 -0600 Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by faroe.vp.uiuc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA18191; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 15:52:43 -0600 Received: from Virginia.EDU by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa01222; 23 Nov 94 16:42 EST Received: from thialfi.cs.cornell.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa01218; 23 Nov 94 16:41 EST Received: from CLOYD.CS.CORNELL.EDU by thialfi.cs.cornell.edu (5.67/I-1.99G) id AA19899; Wed, 23 Nov 94 16:41:37 -0500 Received: from GALAR.CS.CORNELL.EDU by cloyd.cs.cornell.edu (5.67/I-1.99F) id AA04450; Wed, 23 Nov 94 16:41:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Nov 94 16:41:35 -0500 Message-Id: <9411232141.AA21737@galar.cs.cornell.edu> Received: by galar.cs.cornell.edu (5.67/N-0.13aa) id AA21737; Wed, 23 Nov 94 16:41:35 -0500 To: danko@bnr.ca Cc: ibm-tp500@virginia.edu In-Reply-To: "attilla (a.) danko"'s message of Wed, 23 Nov 1994 14:08:00 -0500 <"21578 Wed Nov 23 14:09:24 1994"@bnr.ca> Subject: Re: OS2 & Floppies. From: Aaron Peromsik When OS/2 complains that the A: device is not responding, choose the Retry option from the list it gives you. This may take two or more tries. If it still doesn't work, go into setup (Func-F3) and change the floppy drive setting from Auto to No. This should work fine. I find this is necessary for HD disks but not for DD disks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron Peromsik | Good Morning! Are we having fun yet? peromsik@cornell.edu | Every solution breeds new problems. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's bad luck to be superstitious." -- Andrew W. Mathis From ???@??? Mon Nov 28 00:12:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15756 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Nov 1994 16:36:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10676; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 16:22:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 16:22:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10666; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 16:22:41 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.45] (mac45.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA13976; Wed, 23 Nov 94 16:22:08 EST Message-Id: <9411232122.AA13976@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 16:22:58 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: Warp & SVGA video It sounds like the SVGA problem is solved (more or less). This leaves only the APM problem. I'm probably not the only one who is anxious to leave the windows world behind, but not brave, or unoccupied enough to become a gamma tester (i.e. owner of an x.0 version:). Still, I'm chafing at the bit. Is the PCMCIA driver support better than the old os/2? Has anyone used warp with a 3com card, or a megaherz modem? How about scsi cards and parallel tape backups (iomega in particular)? How is the win32s support? Is parallel_3 really reserved for subspace communication under warp? :) Is system installation or maintenance a big time sink? How is the speed and stability running windows apps (it's a windows world after all). Any relevant info would be appreciated. ------------------------------------------------------------ Victor Kress Carnegie Institution of Washington, Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 ------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Mon Nov 28 00:12:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29711 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Nov 1994 17:27:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14942; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 17:22:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 17:22:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14932; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 17:22:05 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA02112; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 16:21:56 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 17:22:28 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <62549.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: IBM Ethernet PCMCIA adapter survives fall Here I am packing to leave for NY for Thanksgiving. I had my TP750 set up so I could get a last batch of mail before I left. I don't see the ethernet cord coming out of my TP and I tripped on it. Well, it really didn't have enough mass to trip me, rather my foot yanked the card right out of the socket (the dongle thingy has a lock). It flew about 5 feet across the room and landed on the hardwood floor. *OUCH* Well, I picked it up, plugged it back in (the computer was on all this time with OS/2 2.1 and EZPlay installed), and held my breath.... and .... it worked just fine. *phew* Heart attack averted. From OS/2 and the TP's point of view, all I'd done was removed the card and hot-plugged it back in. Just thought you'all'd like to know what I'm doing here at the Destructive Testing Methods Research Labs here at MIT. :-) Have a nice Thanksgiving weekend. _____________________________________________________________________ |\_____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | | | jokim@mit.edu | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Mon Nov 28 00:12:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01523 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Nov 1994 17:35:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14220; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 17:10:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 17:10:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom14.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14200; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 17:10:44 -0500 Received: by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id OAA03804; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 14:04:47 -0800 Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 14:04:46 -0800 (PST) From: "Martin P. Smith" Subject: Re: Warp & SVGA video To: Victor Kress Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9411232122.AA13976@gl.ciw.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Whoa a lot of questions in a little space. But I will tell you my experience with Warp 3.0 on my machine TP750C 20Meg RAM 340 HD. I run the following PCMCIA cards . Megahertz X-JACK ( excellent) IBM 16/4 Token ring card ( excellent ) 3-com combo ethernet. ( shows under plug and play but haven't really tried that hard to get it running under OS/2 ). I also have the Iomega PP 250 tape backup. Support is good but the windows software has more features than the OS/2 although the OS/2 has full suport for HPFS. I am not going to re-install stacker as I am waiting for an 810 Meg HD All in all the new OS/2 is AWESOME on my setup the video drivers are noticeably faster and the whole OS just hums. I have had NO bugs but I did do a complete reformat of my drive prior to the Warp install. Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.COM On Wed, 23 Nov 1994, Victor Kress wrote: > It sounds like the SVGA problem is solved (more or less). This leaves only > the APM problem. I'm probably not the only one who is anxious to leave the > windows world behind, but not brave, or unoccupied enough to become a gamma > tester (i.e. owner of an x.0 version:). Still, I'm chafing at the bit. Is > the PCMCIA driver support better than the old os/2? Has anyone used warp > with a 3com card, or a megaherz modem? How about scsi cards and parallel > tape backups (iomega in particular)? How is the win32s support? Is > parallel_3 really reserved for subspace communication under warp? :) Is > system installation or maintenance a big time sink? How is the speed and > stability running windows apps (it's a windows world after all). Any > relevant info would be appreciated. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Victor Kress > Carnegie Institution of Washington, Geophysical Laboratory > 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. > Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 > (202) 686-2410 x2489 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > From ???@??? Mon Nov 28 00:12:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13516 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Nov 1994 18:50:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20052; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 18:43:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 18:43:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20035; Wed, 23 Nov 1994 18:43:13 -0500 Received: by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14692; Wed, 23 Nov 94 15:43:47 PST Date: Wed, 23 Nov 94 15:43:47 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9411232343.AA14692@cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PAL/SECAM/NTSC TV tuner for ThinkPad 755C ??? In-Reply-To: Mail from 'dkachalov@glas.apc.org (Dmitry Kachalov)' dated: Sun, 20 Nov 94 15:19 +0300 Cc: dkachalov@glas.apc.org > I wonder if someone know about multi-system TV tuner for ThinkPad 755C? > But idea is great... IBM let me borrow one of the television tuners for a couple of days, and it was acceptable, but it certainly didn`t justify the $1,999 price tag! > We've ordered one but it's only NTSC so absolutely USELESS in Russia. The tuner section has a switch to accept a composite (non-rf modulated) signal. Just use your own tuner, demodulate the signal (most modern tuners have a composite output), and plug it into the composite jack. It is interesting to note that the colors didn't look that great. The transistors in an active matrix LCD are analog (non-switching) transistors, so you still need a D/A section to drive the panel from a digital input. The driver chip in the ThinkPad uses 16,000 colors -- which you would think would be sufficient, but the panel had a hard time with skin tones and especially cartoons. We were thinking of using the ThinkPad for the display on a remote driving application for an autonomous robot, and found that the color was marginal for this type of application. | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Mon Nov 28 00:12:38 1994 Received: from faroe.vp.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00846 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Nov 1994 17:04:35 -0600 Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by faroe.vp.uiuc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22714; Fri, 25 Nov 1994 17:04:04 -0600 Received: from Virginia.EDU by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa02873; 25 Nov 94 17:52 EST Received: from x400gate.bnr.ca by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa02869; 25 Nov 94 17:50 EST X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 25 Nov 1994 17:50:39 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 25 Nov 1994 17:50:32 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 25 Nov 1994 17:49:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 17:49:00 -0500 X400-Originator: /dd.id=1504634/g=attilla/i=a/s=danko/@bnr.ca X400-Mts-Identifier: /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars735.b.364:25.10.94.22.50.32 X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Slow Trackpoi... From: "attilla (a.) danko" Sender: "attilla (a.) danko" Message-Id: <"12365.Fri.Nov.25.17:50:35.1994"@bnr.ca>. To: ibm-tp500@virginia.edu Subject: Slow Trackpoint with OS2 I am running OS2. I have set the little slider in mouse setup to max speed. My trackpoint/mouse is still too slow. Is there a device driver option or some other incantation that I can use to speed up pointer movement? Thanks in advance. danko@bnr.ca From ???@??? Mon Nov 28 00:12:44 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11288 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Nov 1994 17:00:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25591; Sun, 27 Nov 1994 17:19:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Nov 1994 17:18:59 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25581; Sun, 27 Nov 1994 17:18:57 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA24222; Sun, 27 Nov 1994 16:18:55 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 17:19:28 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <62369.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp & SVGA video In message Wed, 23 Nov 1994 14:04:46 -0800 (PST), "Martin P. Smith" writes: > I am not going to re-install stacker [for OS/2] as I am waiting for an > 810 Meg HD For those of us who are less fortunate in our bank accounts, I highly recommend you try out Zipstream on ftp-os2.cdrom.com in the directory /pub/os2/32bit/diskutil/zs102b.zip. It supports HPFS, it's multi-threaded so it seems fast, it compresses each file individually (so you won't lose all your data because of one bad sector), and it gets compression ratios within 1% of PKZip by my tests. Registration is about US$35. Right now I'm trying to figure out if it works under Warp (kinda hard since IBM lost my copy of Warp :-). _____________________________________________________________________ |\_____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | | | jokim@mit.edu | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Mon Nov 28 13:13:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20901 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Nov 1994 12:11:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12596; Mon, 28 Nov 1994 11:29:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Nov 1994 11:29:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12584; Mon, 28 Nov 1994 11:29:02 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA00471; Mon, 28 Nov 94 09:28:15 MST Date: Mon, 28 Nov 94 09:28:15 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9411281628.AA00471@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp & SVGA video > It sounds like the SVGA problem is solved (more or less). Yeah, more or less....just be careful with the Easy Setup System Diagnostics. > This leaves only the APM problem. Actually, there is a workaround for the suspend/resume problem: delete your power-on password. Although I kinda miss the power-on password, OS/2 allows you to "lock-up" upon system start. This is not as secure or as convenient as the ROM-based password, but it'll do in the interim. There is also the familiar "PCMCIA-card-not-recognized-upon-return-from- hibernation-problem". Workaround: hot-plug the PCMCIA device. This is too much of a hassle for my tastes, so I've just given up on hibernation. On the plus side, I've recovered 8Mb of disk space as a result. > Is the PCMCIA driver support better than the old os/2? In terms of PCMCIA implementation, I see no difference between what I get under Warp versus what I had under Windows. Under Warp, it's called "Plug and Play for PCMCIA", whereas under Windows it's called "Easy Play", but that's about the only difference. It looks the same, feels the same, works the same. (Note that the only PCMCIA card I use is a Megahertz x-jack modem - your mileage may vary, especially with ethernet cards and the like). > Is system installation or maintenance a big time sink? Installation is easy, if not time consuming due to having to shuffle what seems like half-a-million floppies. Took me about an hour for an OS/2-only installation; installing Windows support will of course take longer. > How is the speed and stability running windows apps? Right now my setup does not include Windows support, so I can't comment on running Windows apps. However, I have been running the included HyperAccess Lite, Win-Cim for OS/2, Fax Works, and some DOS-based stuff. Overall, the system seems quite snappy and responsive. I came over from WFWG 3.11 (which fairly well screams), and I don't feel as though I've lost much in the way of speed. With OS/2 2.1, performance always seemed to lag that of Windows; but with Warp, performance is pretty much a non-issue. (I assume that one would see similar results when running Windows-based apps). As far as stability goes, the system has been very solid. The only crashes I've had are related to the APM bugs mentioned above. Contrast this to my DOS/Windows desktop machine, which crashed three times just yesterday while running Doom ;) If ID ever delivers on Doom/2, it may very well be the death blow for DOS on my desktop machine as well.... _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | (kyeanopl@den.mmc.com) Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Denver, CO. 80201 | From ???@??? Wed Nov 30 11:19:01 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24008 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 29 Nov 1994 00:45:11 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11226; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 00:24:13 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 00:24:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11216; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 00:24:10 -0500 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id AAA20200 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 00:24:01 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 00:23:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs25.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 00:22:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs25.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 00:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Nov..4.1993.10.47.44.sun4c.411.EzMail.PC.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.pcs25.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.pcs25.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 00:22:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 00:22:08 -0500 (EST) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: warp and tcp/ip I have a 3com etherlink III pcmcia 10base-T in slot 1. I have installed warp and tcp/ip 2.0 for os/2 everything seems ok, but then at the end it tells me that it can't find the adapter. I have configured tcp/ip to enable adapter 1 and laps is configured for adapter 0 (the lowest number). and it doesn't work any help would be greatly appreciated. ------------- Alexis and I From ???@??? Wed Nov 30 11:19:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22356 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 29 Nov 1994 05:46:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02685; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 05:38:16 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 05:38:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02675; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 05:38:08 -0500 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from odb.rhein-main.de (193.141.47.4) with smtp id ; Tue, 29 Nov 94 11:37 MET Received: from fp.rhein-main.de by odb.rhein-main.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rCPwL-0003eMC; Tue, 29 Nov 94 11:37 MET Message-Id: X-Sender: uwe@odb.rhein-main.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 11:35:52 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: uwe@odb.rhein-main.de (Tim Vetter) Subject: Re: 755CD video subsystem... X-Mailer: Ken Yee said: > >Anyone know whether all the 755CD components are supported by OS/2 Warp, >Windows NT 3.5, Linux, Sun Solaris 2.4, and Chicago? Don't know about the others, but NT 3.5 can currently only drive ThinkPads at 640x480x16 resolution (that goes for external monitors too) which I would think make it totally useless for video work. As for Chicago (reborn as Windows 95), I have a copy coming in the next few weeks, *any* TP compatibility info would be greatly welcomed before I and my machine become a guinea pigs ... Best, Tim Vetter Frankfurt uwe@odb.rhein-main.de From ???@??? Wed Nov 30 11:19:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22718 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 29 Nov 1994 14:42:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07507; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 13:59:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 13:59:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07497; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 13:59:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199411291859.NAA07497@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26108; Tue, 29 Nov 94 13:59:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 94 13:59:27 -0500 From: Chris Hanson To: sk6k+@andrew.cmu.edu Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 29 Nov 1994 00:22:08 -0500 (EST) from Sang H Kim Subject: warp and tcp/ip Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 00:22:08 -0500 (EST) From: Sang H Kim I have a 3com etherlink III pcmcia 10base-T in slot 1. I have installed warp and tcp/ip 2.0 for os/2 everything seems ok, but then at the end it tells me that it can't find the adapter. I have configured tcp/ip to enable adapter 1 and laps is configured for adapter 0 (the lowest number). and it doesn't work any help would be greatly appreciated. ------------- Alexis and I I have exactly the same configuration (well, 10base2 actually) and had the same experience. I fixed it by installing two files from the "beta" OS/2 PCMCIA drivers, which are available from "software.watson.ibm.com" as the file "pub/os2/ews/os2pcm.zip". I _strongly_ recommend that you not install the entire package. I suspect that doing so will break Warp, and you will definitely lose your "Plug and Play" icon. Instead, get two files, "pcmcia.sys" and "icrmu01.sys", and install them in "\os2\". "pcmcia.sys" will replace the one that came with Warp (I renamed the original so it wouldn't be lost), and "icrmu01.sys" doesn't exist in Warp at all. Then add a DEVICE line for "icrmu01.sys" according to the instructions that came with the drivers; I don't remember the details and I'm not sitting at my ThinkPad so I can't look at it for you -- but if you want I can get it later and tell you. Anyway, once I installed these two files and added the DEVICE line to config.sys I rebooted and my etherlink worked fine ever after. From ???@??? Wed Nov 30 11:19:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28707 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Nov 1994 01:24:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16995; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 15:46:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 15:46:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16951; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 15:45:33 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA02528; Tue, 29 Nov 1994 14:45:03 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 15:45:36 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@MIT.EDU Message-Id: <56736.jokim@mit.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: warp and tcp/ip In message Tue, 29 Nov 94 13:59:27 -0500, Chris Hanson writes: >> I have a 3com etherlink III pcmcia 10base-T in slot 1. >> >> I have installed warp and tcp/ip 2.0 for os/2 >> everything seems ok, but then at the end it tells me that it can't find >> the adapter. I have configured tcp/ip to enable adapter 1 and laps is >> configured for adapter 0 (the lowest number). and it doesn't work > I have exactly the same configuration (well, 10base2 actually) and had > the same experience. I fixed it by installing two files from the > "beta" OS/2 PCMCIA drivers, which are available from > "software.watson.ibm.com" as the file "pub/os2/ews/os2pcm.zip". I recommend you give Sang a copy of your config.sys. I spent 10 hours installing and reinstalling TCP/IP and the IBM PCMCIA ethernet software. I finally compared with someone else's config.sys and got it to work by playing with the order things were being loaded. It's really kinda strange. You have to load half the PCMCIA drivers first, then NDIS, then TCPIP, then the other half of the PCMCIA drivers. _____________________________________________________________________ |\_____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | | | jokim@mit.edu | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Wed Nov 30 11:19:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19477 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Nov 1994 04:15:10 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11707; Wed, 30 Nov 1994 04:27:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Nov 1994 04:27:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11689; Wed, 30 Nov 1994 04:27:15 -0500 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Wed, 30 Nov 1994 10:26:58 +0100 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Wed, 30 Nov 94 10:26:56 +0100 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 10:26:56 +0100 Message-Id: <9411300926.AA23227@octave.chorus.fr> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Obtaining Fixes For Thinkpad Hello, Chris Hanson writes: > I have exactly the same configuration (well, 10base2 actually) and had > the same experience. I fixed it by installing two files from the > "beta" OS/2 PCMCIA drivers, which are available from > "software.watson.ibm.com" as the file "pub/os2/ews/os2pcm.zip". I wonder if we can obtain IBM Fixes for Thinkpad (called APAR nnn) from this site also ? -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Wed Nov 30 11:19:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07159 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Nov 1994 06:39:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25556; Wed, 30 Nov 1994 06:41:52 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Nov 1994 06:41:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25546; Wed, 30 Nov 1994 06:41:46 -0500 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ab22701; 30 Nov 94 11:41 GMT From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Warp & Windows Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 10:55:49 GMT Message-Id: <9411301055.aa02783@hipass.filct.com> I just installed Warp over Windows on my tp750. When I ran a Windows app under Warp, the speaker emitted a horrible starngling noise, and the system locked up pretty soon after. Now, when I boot Dos, Windows comes up with a "Not enough memory ..." error on startup (though there is nothing in the startup folder). After that, I can only start one or two apps without getting an "Not enough memory" error. Any ideas? What can I do (short of a full restore) to get back to a Windows that works? TIA Mike