From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 1 09:58:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15722 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 09:58:45 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23606; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:31:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:31:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.ge.com by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23599; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:31:12 -0400 From: Received: from [3.29.7.8] by ns.ge.com (5.65/GE Gateway 1.23) with SMTP id AA02822; Wed, 1 Jun 94 10:24:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 94 10:24:48 -0400 Message-Id: <9406011424.AA02822@ns.ge.com> Apparently-To: Status: OR >From andy Wed Jun 01 10:29:59 EDT 1994 remote from spencer.salem.ge.com Received: from spencer.salem.ge.com by salem.salem.ge.com; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:29 EDT Received: by spencer.salem.ge.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.2) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 10:30 EST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 01 Jun 94 10:29:59 EDT From: andy@spencer.salem.ge.com (Andy Spencer) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Trackpoint II - technical info X-Mailer: GE Openmail [version L1.0.3] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 976 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Can anyone point me to some technical information on the ~PS/2 mouse on the 750? Were working in UNIX and can handle a number of serial mouse formats but bus/ps2/trackpoint formats are foreign to us. The FAQ mentions some hacks reqd for Linux. A good reference (ftpable?) including registers and bits would be of great help. Thanks! -- GGGG EEEEE DDDD SSSS Andy Spencer G E D D S andy@spencer.salem.ge.com G GGG EEE D D SSSS (703) 387-7361 (Voice) G G E D D S (703) 387-8651 (Fax) GGGGG EEEEE DDDD SSSS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - GE Drive Systems 1501 Roanoke Blvd / Rm 287 Salem, VA 24153 ======================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 1 10:55:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28696 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:55:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28628; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:22:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:22:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28620; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:22:10 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 6019; Wed, 01 Jun 94 11:22:09 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 8019; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:22:09 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Wed, 01 Jun 94 11:11:48 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA34118; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:11:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:11:46 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9406011511.AA34118@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 3com PCMCIA: HELP!! Status: OR Hi, I'm looking for some help in getting my 3com PCMCIA ethernet card working. I can get the card to loopback using the 3com diagnostic software. However, EZPlay still says the card is "Not Ready", and I can't get my software (PC-NFS) to talk to it. Any suggestions? --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 1 11:24:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06148 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:24:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01746; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:53:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:53:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01738; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:53:19 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA28274 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:53:01 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406011553.AA28274@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: LED Screens To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:53:01 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405261832.OAA19331@wilma.cs.utk.edu> from "Keith Moore" at May 26, 94 02:32:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Well, I keep hoping someone will build a laptop with a 1024x768 screen. > That would be enough to get me to upgrade. 640x480 is pretty painful. I heard the next generation will have higher resolutions but I had heard strange numbers like 800x500 or other such non-used numbers. I myself would be happy with a 800x600 resolution. But it's much worse under Windows where I find the icons are much bigger (no slam intended). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 1 11:42:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10936 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:42:19 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03375; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:13:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:13:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03364; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:13:14 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA03241 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:12:57 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406011612.AA03241@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Network cards To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:12:56 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Will somone who has gotten their network cards to work (PCMCIA only) please e-mail me the way they did it so I can include it in my FAQ and answer this question once and for all? Please include the make PCMCIA cards as well as the OS you are working under and any tricks necessary to make it work. If no tricks were necessary, just let me know what type of card you have. -Sean From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 1 11:45:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11587 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:45:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02961; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:07:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:07:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02954; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:07:30 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA01801 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:07:12 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406011607.AA01801@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Some PCMCIA cards hate IBM drivers To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:07:12 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405301821.OAA26484@nic.hookup.net> from "Tim Vetter" at May 30, 94 02:23:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > following: EZPlay detects the presence/absence of my modem card, but > reports its status as "Not Ready", the card type as "Memory", and nothing > for card information. Maybe it's a case of the autoconfigurator not being able to properly identify the PCMCIA card. I've never really seen this but I've only come across a KIT, Smart Modular Tech Modem, and MHz. Have you checked your autodrv.ini file? > I've contacted GVC tech support and they say the IBM drivers are no good, > while IBM support says the GVC card doesn't follow the PCMCIA standard. > It's a classic case of vendor support Catch-22. Well, in this ONE case, I may be inclined to believe IBM since they have shown quite a lot of discipline in adhering to standards lately. > how perfect the plug-and-play is, surely I'm not the only one who's had > headaches ... ? No, you're not. The network card people are still going through headaches. :) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 1 12:40:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24641 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:40:51 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08104; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 13:03:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 13:03:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from VAXC.HOFSTRA.EDU by cs.cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08095; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 13:03:44 -0400 Received: from baskett.hofstra.edu by vaxc.hofstra.edu (PMDF V4.2-11 #3680) id <01HD11ETXYHC9ZLHLR@vaxc.hofstra.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:53:47 EDT Received: by baskett.hofstra.edu (931110.SGI) id AA21604; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:52:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 01 Jun 1994 12:52:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Kendall Chenoweth Subject: linux anybody To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR has anybody succesfully gotten linux owrking? if so how? *coinfused* Kendall Kendall Chenoweth, UNIX Coordinator, 516/463-6134, 925-0711 Academic Computing, Hofstra University, Hempstead, NY 11550 "Listen very carefully... I shall say this only once..." Michelle from the Resistance, 'Allo 'Allo From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 1 15:37:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14557 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 15:37:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23989; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:04:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:04:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23981; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:04:28 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwslk20113; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:04:09 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27422; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:58:00 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA21325; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:04:28 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25529; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:02:51 PDT Date: Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:02:51 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9406012002.AA25529@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: network cards Status: OR Todd Tannenbaum posted some excellent information about a month ago on how to get the 3COM card working under EZplay. I've included a copy of his message below in case it will help the person who posted earlier today (can't remember who) who was having problems with their new card. Perhaps this info should also be included in the FAQ. --Bruce Date: Tue, 3 May 94 13:42:12 CDT Message-Id: <9405031842.AA23478@erb1.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: 3COM PCMCIA & Thinkpad X-Mailer: Status: RO Well, I just got my 3com pcmcia card yesterday. There is good news and bad news. Here's the scoop: THE GOOD NEWS: The 3com card does not support being dynamically configured by easyplay. But it can work with Easyplay with a "static" configuration. There is no 3com "enabler" in the traditional sense. Instead, they have a 3com configure program which you can use to tell the card which interrupt, I/O, etc, to use. Then these values get stored on the card somehow (NVRAM?). So, I used this configure program to set some reasonable values. Then I edited my autodrv.ini file's ETHER section so that the only configuratuion ezplay had to "try" for an ethernet card was the same configuration which the 3com was setup for in NVRAM. After that, by just loading the ibm ezplay drivers, i could use the 3com board and the megaherz modem fine. in other words, i did not have to load any 3com pcmcia drivers, etc (except of course the ODI driver!). i was happy. HOWEVER, HERE'S THE BAD NEWS: The 3com board does _NOT_ work in the port replicator slots!! :-( It works fine in the 750 slots, but not in slot C or slot D in my port replicator. I was very disappointed. Has anyone got it to work in the port replicator (i doubt it...) I called 3com tech support and bitched, and they called back and said they have an ibm pcmcia port replicator on order. When it arrives (gee, even 3com has to wait for thinkpad stuff!) they say they will at least look into the problem. no promises, however. they also said i was not the first one to complain about this. i encourage others on this list to complain about this! the more people who bitch the higher priority 3com will place on fixing this. sigh. i think i hate pcmcia. -Todd From kensan@VNET.IBM.COM Wed Jun 1 22:05:04 1994 Received: from vnet.ibm.com by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14430 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 22:05:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199406020305.AA14430@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Received: from YMTVM4 by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3722; Wed, 01 Jun 94 23:04:48 EDT Date: Thu, 2 Jun 94 12:04:59 JST From: Ken Inoue To: antti.kilpinen@abo.fi Cc: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu Subject: Is video on 360 and 755 interchangeable Status: OR Thank you in your interest in IBM ThinkPads. I hate to disappoint a customer but I am afraid that in this case the answer is no, due to technical reasons. The showstopper is the BIOS. Each type of LCD panel (TFT color, DSTN color, STN mono) requires the LCD controller part of the video chip to be programmed in a specific manner. Since the 755 has only TFT model and DSTN color model, the 755 BIOS does not support a STN mono panel. The 360 BIOS will not work on a 755 because of various hardware differences, including but not limited to the CPU clock rate (33 vs 25/50/75) and audio (option vs integrated). You may want to note, however, that to the best of my knowledge the ThinkPad 750 series has not been withdrawn yet. Supply of the color models may be constrained in some countries, but the 750 monochrome model should still be available, while supplies last. Thank you again in your interest in our products, and my apologies for the delay in responding. Sincerely, Ken Inoue *** Forwarding note from jokim --chs.clar 05/25/94 18:01 *** - - - - - - - - - - F o r w a r d e d N o t e - - - - - - - - - - Received: from chs.claremont.edu by vnet.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 26 May 94 09:00:56 EDT Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA28676; Thu, 26 May 1994 05:58:09 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 18:01:56 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.claremont.edu Message-Id: <64916.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: kensan@VNET.IBM.COM, graff@vnet.ibm.com Cc: antti.kilpinen@abo.fi, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Is video on 360 and 755 interchangeable One of the members of our TP750 mailing list has an unusual problem. Perhaps you two can help with some definitive answers. Please reply to the following addresses: antti.kilpinen@abo.fi (The person that asked the question) ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The person in charge of the TP750 FAQ) jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu (Me, out of curiousity) Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I need a TP with math-co and a mono screen. Since Tp750-mono is discontinued IBM requires it's customers be more innovative. Actually I want both a 755-mono and a 360Cs (two separate units). Can I (i.e. IBM service) switch the displays of a 360-mono and a 755Cs?. I think the wideo drivers are identical for both color and mono models- how about between 360 and 755 series?. As aresult I would get a 360Cs and a 755-mono. Is anyone on the net familiar with the low level hardware of the TPs?. First, I wan't to know if this is technically possible. Second, I must find someone to do the work so that warranty is not affected) My option is to buy a 360Cs and a 360-mono(instead of the 755-mono) and must suffice w/o math-co. Besides, IBM will loose the price difference of the combinations. Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Research Fellow Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University, DataCity FIN-20520 Turku -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 4 11:06:43 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18021 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 4 Jun 1994 11:06:41 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14705; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 11:32:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 11:32:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14698; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 11:32:47 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA23442; Sat, 4 Jun 94 11:32:43 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 94 11:32:43 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406041532.AA23442@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinking about upgrades Status: OR is it technically possible to put a second processor on a PCMCIA card? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 4 12:06:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22909 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 4 Jun 1994 12:06:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18422; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 12:31:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 12:31:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18414; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 12:31:46 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0q9yiv-0004uCC; Sat, 4 Jun 94 11:37 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0q9yVm-0009b5C; Sat, 4 Jun 94 11:23 CDT Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0q9yeT-000BhJC; Sat, 4 Jun 94 11:32 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: thinking about upgrades To: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 11:32:53 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9406041532.AA23442@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Jun 4, 94 11:32:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > is it technically possible to put a second processor on a PCMCIA card? > I think that it is impossible with the PCMCIA 2.x spec. The card cannot become bus master. The 3.X spec is claimed to resolve this limitation. Will know more after next week. I'm taking a PCMICA design class. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 4 20:58:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11961 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 4 Jun 1994 20:58:46 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19500; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 21:08:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 21:08:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shelley2.u.washington.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19493; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 21:08:41 -0400 Received: by shelley2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08120; Sat, 4 Jun 94 18:08:39 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 94 18:08:39 -0700 From: "Jay T. Jensen" Message-Id: <9406050108.AA08120@shelley2.u.washington.edu> X-Sender: ahknaton@shelley2.u.washington.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: MCA Audio Status: OR Howdy all, I'm new to the list, adn this is my first post. I know this isn't tp'750' related, as there is no general thinkpad list, I'll post my question here if you don't mind. I'm looking for a Sound Blaster Pro (Micro Channel). Creative Labs used to make one, but they no longer sell it. If anyone has any ideas as to where to find that or a MCA auido card that is "sound blaster compatible" I'd be much appreciated. I'm trying to find a audio card that will fit into the tp700C's docking station. BTW I help maintain a tp750 if any 750 purists out there are wondering about my 'elgibility' on this list. And to set matters straight it would be nice if the list would clarify whether this is a thinkpad list dedicated solely to the 750 or all thinkpads. Thanks, Jay T. Jensen ahknaton@u.washington.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 5 09:58:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06359 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Jun 1994 09:58:14 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19883; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:27:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:27:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mercury.king.ac.uk by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19876; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:27:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199406051427.KAA19876@cs.cs.utk.edu> Received: from ceres.kingston.ac.uk by mercury.kingston.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <29244-0@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 15:28:26 +0100 Received: from kingston.ac.uk by ceres.kingston.ac.uk id <19901-0@ceres.kingston.ac.uk>; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 15:27:34 +0100 From: Sergio Terenas Subject: About the FAQ and multimedia To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: MMDF/Ream v4.16b Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 15:27:34 +0100 Sender: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk Status: OR Hi all, I was just reading an old FAQ I had at home and one of the questions regarding multimedia 'Can I impress my friends...' or something like that states that the tp750 comes with an impressive multimedia demo. I don't think I got that one with my 750. I didn't get Monologue either. I may be using outdated BIOS, video and sound drivers software. What's the name of that multimedia demo ? I still think I've been ripped off by IBM. When are they going to get a clue about customers ? Isn't it time for them to put all the upgrades (well if they are upgrades, it means previous versions contained bugs and that's their fault, not the customers!) available on ftp ? Why is the IBMDOS 6.3 upgrade available on ftp and the drivers aren't ? Another question asked for a way of knowing the battery info from inside a program. I will work on this one if noone else found the solution for it. Please let me know. Another question, before I try it, the FAQ states there's a reset button on the 750. Is this a normal reset (warm boot) or does it change any of the BIOS parameters permantently ? This question arises due to the position of the button... Thanks in advance, Sergio Terenas From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 5 10:16:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08843 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:16:28 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20879; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:42:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:42:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from longs.lance.colostate.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20871; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:42:46 -0400 Received: from longs.lance.colostate.edu (hamilton.lance.colostate.edu [129.82.188.37]) by longs.lance.colostate.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5a (LANCE 1.01)) with ESMTP id IAA03989 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 08:42:30 -0600 Message-Id: <199406051442.IAA03989@longs.lance.colostate.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: OS/2 VESA driver Date: Sun, 05 Jun 1994 08:42:29 -0600 From: Tom Aurand Status: OR Hello to the members! First time communicator. I have a user who would like to run LINKS386, a DOS golf game, on his 750C(I'm not sure about the suffix, the one with the slow display.) This game seems to require a VESA driver be installed and OS/2 doesn't provide one or isn't faking one. Do you know what to do to get the game running on his machine? Thanks for your help! Tom From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 6 13:08:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09471 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Jun 1994 13:08:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07923; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 13:31:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 13:31:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hp.com by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07915; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 13:31:08 -0400 Received: from hpbs4328.boi.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.36.108.7/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA11355; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 10:31:06 -0700 Received: by hpbs3943.boi.hp.com (1.37.109.8/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA27757; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 11:28:47 -0600 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 11:28:47 -0600 From: Sandra Capri Message-Id: <9406061728.AA27757@hpbs3943.boi.hp.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: IBM PCMCIA Ethernet card and PCNFS Status: OR Has anyone gotten the IBM Ethernet II PCMCIA card working on a thinkpad 750C with PCNFS? We're running PCDOS 6.1 and windows 3.1 Sandra Capri phone: (208) 396-2413 internet: sandra_capri@boi.hp.com or: scapri@mail.boi.hp.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Jun 6 13:47:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24544 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Jun 1994 13:47:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20113; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 10:43:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 10:43:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20105; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 10:43:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (gottel@venezia.eng.rpi.edu [128.113.5.213]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA21801 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 09:32:34 -0400 Received: by localhost (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/AIXV3-SUB16); id AA21408; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 09:32:30 -0400 for tp750@cs.utk.edu From: gottel@rpi.edu (Lawrence Gottesman) Message-Id: <9406060932.ZM19102@venezia.eng.rpi.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 09:32:25 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (2.1.5 20sep93) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Where is FAQ? Status: OR Does anyone know where I might be able to obtain the FAQ for this list and archives, is any, of prior discussions? Thanks. -- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 6 19:04:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21941 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Jun 1994 19:04:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14604; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 19:40:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 19:40:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms.macc.wisc.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14597; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 19:40:53 -0400 Received: from VMSmail by vms.macc.wisc.edu; Mon, 06 Jun 94 18:40 CDT Message-Id: <24060618401542@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 94 18:40 CDT From: Chris Schumann Subject: DOOM, anyone? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Status: OR Alright, instead of buying more RAM, I bought a VGA to NTSC video converter. Now I want to run DOOM with sound on my 100" projection screen. PLEASE help me get sound working! (?) I've tried changing the interrupt number and DMA channel, and still, no sound. Thanks in advance, chris From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 7 03:58:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07997 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 03:58:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01140; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 04:20:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 04:20:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01120; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 04:20:45 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA03133 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 02:09:43 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406070709.AA03133@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Where is FAQ? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 02:09:42 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9406060932.ZM19102@venezia.eng.rpi.edu> from "Lawrence Gottesman" at Jun 6, 94 09:32:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Does anyone know where I might be able to obtain the FAQ for this list and > archives, is any, of prior discussions? Thanks. The FAQ is available at assistant.beckman.uiuc.edu in the wasserman/thinkpad directory. The latest version will be uploaded soon. The archives may be made available depending on space limitations and/or demand for them. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:37:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21950 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 14:37:47 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22962; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 15:01:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 15:01:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22951; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 15:01:38 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id MAA04508; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 12:01:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 12:01:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Arie Litman Subject: DOS games and TP750/755 To: TP-750 List Cc: pcheslaw@pcuk.demon.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hi all, Im trying to get a game called Raptor to run under DO with sound.. With the emulation drivers that come with Audio feature disk, the game does not recognise the audio... Any one out there have any pointers for me? Thanks in advance.. Arie Litman voice (408)441-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 7 19:43:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12771 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 19:43:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16806; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:03:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:03:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16799; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:03:51 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id RAA27328; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:03:45 -0700 From: jawilcox@netcom.com (Jon A. Wilcox) Message-Id: <199406080003.RAA27328@netcom.com> Subject: Introducing myself To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:03:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR As suggested by the welcom message, I'll introduce myself to the list. I am actually not currently a TP750 user, but I will be purchasing one as soon as I get to Business School this fall through the MIT student purchase program. I expect to use it for spreadsheets, statistical analyses, word processing, heavy communications (I'm a BBS Sysop), and some limited DTP (primarily related to B school projects. I will be using OS/2 as my OS (so presumably i'll be doing all these things at once ;-) ). I would love to hear any suggestions people might have on how to buildup and accessorize my ThinkPad. At the moment, I'm considering a 750Cs with a HD around 360MB, 12MB of RAM and a internal 14.4 fax/modem. Does anyone have any comment about the performance of the TP750 with this configuration running the types of things I'm expecting to run? Also, would you suggest an internal fax/modem or PCMCIA? Assuming either one of those, what modem would people suggest? Thanks. - Jon W. -- Jon A. Wilcox jawilcox@netcom.com CIS: 75220,132 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 8 00:53:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07433 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 8 Jun 1994 00:53:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09330; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:21:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:21:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09323; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:21:28 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id WAA28237; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 22:21:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 22:21:38 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199406080521.WAA28237@netcom.com> To: jawilcox@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Introducing myself Status: OR Great config. I have the following 750C (worth the cash and the wait ) 340 Meg HD 20 Meg RAM Megahertz XJ2144 fax modem Xircom Token Ring Card ( the Xircom SUCKS BIG WIND no support for socket services under OS/2) I run Os/2 2.11 and it screams. Seriously think about the Active screen it makes a huge difference ( OK on the wallet too ) more thanworth it BTW. I recognize the handle from the OS/2 groups. Martin Smtih msmith@netcom.com :wq From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:40:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04768 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:40:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08530; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:47:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:47:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08523; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:47:51 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (rama) id QQwtkt16072; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:47:42 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18720; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:41:09 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA24232; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:48:04 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13205; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:46:04 PDT Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:46:04 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9406081646.AA13205@opus.objy.com> To: msmith@netcom.com Subject: Re: Introducing myself Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR You managed to get OS/2 2.11 to run properly? I ran into all sorts of problems when I installed it. Seamless Win/OS2 wouldn't work properly (screwed up the color map royally) and the power and PCMCIA management were not working correctly. Or at least I know running EZplay would crash the system. Did you acquire any patches from IBM? --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 8 14:52:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26703 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 8 Jun 1994 14:52:16 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20143; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:05:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:05:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20119; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:05:24 -0400 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA39562; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 13:59:18 -0500 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA152440; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 14:04:26 -0500 From: gbu@lochness.uhc.com (Gary Udstrand) Message-Id: <9406081904.AA152440@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: New subsriber To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 14:04:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Status: OR >Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, >how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), >and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST >address -- don't just reply to this message!) I am to be recieving an IBM 755Cs (I would have liked to have the 755C, but the delay in receiving one was to long). The machine has 20megs of memory 340meg hard drive. I am a Windows developer so I will being running windows as my primary operating system. -- __ __ | | o | | Gary Udstrand | | \|/ | | AT&T: (612) 945-6523 Advanced Technology, IS&T | \(_)/ | Fax: (612) 945-6502 United HealthCare Corp \_________/ E-Mail: gbu@uhc.com "A sufficiently high level of technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 8 15:30:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14994 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:30:47 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24112; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:45:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:45:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.ge.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24085; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:45:24 -0400 From: Received: from [3.29.7.8] by ns.ge.com (5.65/GE Gateway 1.23) with SMTP id AA15184; Wed, 8 Jun 94 15:38:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 15:38:40 -0400 Message-Id: <9406081938.AA15184@ns.ge.com> Apparently-To: Status: OR >From andy Wed Jun 08 15:44:50 EDT 1994 remote from spencer.salem.ge.com Received: from spencer.salem.ge.com by salem.salem.ge.com; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:42 EDT Received: by spencer.salem.ge.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.2) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 15:44 EST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 08 Jun 94 15:44:50 EDT From: andy@spencer.salem.ge.com (Andy Spencer) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Anyone using UNIX w/ TP750 & PCMCIA ? X-Mailer: GE Openmail [version L1.0.3] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1325 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Boy have I had trouble using my TP750. Unfortunately I'm not using Linux or BSD versions of UNIX so I suspect I'm kind of off on my own. We're using LynxOS, a real-time variant (mutant). I've been trying to piece together a user mode program to initialize the Megahertz PCMCIA modem but haven't had much success. I've roughly followed the BSD version by Bdale Garbee but when I get to the point where the card is reset it locks up the box. All I really wanted to do is run an initialization program to setup the card so that is would act like a normal COM2 (tty) device. If anyone has had some experiences (good/bad/indifferent) with UNIX and the TP please drop me a line. Thanks. -- GGGG EEEEE DDDD SSSS Andy Spencer G E D D S andy@spencer.salem.ge.com G GGG EEE D D SSSS (703) 387-7361 (Voice) G G E D D S (703) 387-8651 (Fax) GGGGG EEEEE DDDD SSSS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - GE Drive Systems 1501 Roanoke Blvd / Rm 287 Salem, VA 24153 ======================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 8 20:36:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06553 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 8 Jun 1994 20:36:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18326; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:13:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:13:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18319; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:13:48 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA02061 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 8 Jun 1994 20:13:32 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406090113.AA02061@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: TP's and OS/2 2.xx To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 20:13:31 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9406081646.AA13205@opus.objy.com> from "Bruce Reed" at Jun 8, 94 09:45:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > You managed to get OS/2 2.11 to run properly? I ran into all > sorts of problems when I installed it. Seamless Win/OS2 wouldn't > work properly (screwed up the color map royally) and the power > and PCMCIA management were not working correctly. Or at least > I know running EZplay would crash the system. Did you acquire > any patches from IBM? I also have OS/2 2.11 running fine. One thing to note is that you must install the old APM from OS/2 2.1. The new one in 2.11 is broken. Also MMPM/2 crashes if you play a MIDI file. IBM BBS has a fix for that which seems to work. EZPlay crashes if you shut it off...I don't know why, but I just don't load it up since you don't need the actual program loaded to get the hardware working... I'll be installing OS/2 Performance in a day or two. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 8 23:05:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03578 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 8 Jun 1994 23:05:48 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27479; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 23:21:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 23:21:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27472; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 23:21:50 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id UAA12345; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 20:21:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 20:21:52 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199406090321.UAA12345@netcom.com> To: bruce@objy.com, msmith@netcom.com Subject: Re: Introducing myself Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Well I picked up the latest versions of all the disks from the IBM PC BBS. The only problem I have is that the colors will flip out when I run my development version of PB apps but this happens on other peoples desks running standard windows. Closing EZPLAY tends to reset the desktop so I take the old doctors remedy. Doctor it hurts if I do this ... To which the doctor says well don't do this. Power management is no problem but I don't allow hibernation. The latest vesions of the disks do state that they fix some problems in this area. BTW I lost my trackpoint functionallity the other day. On site service is a real boon they just came and gave me a new Keyboard. MArtin Smtih msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:15:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16509 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 04:15:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16655; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 04:31:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 04:31:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16646; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 04:31:05 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA11429 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 03:30:49 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406100830.AA11429@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: OS/2 Performance and TP75x To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 03:30:48 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR For those who don't know what OS/2 Performance is or those who are wondering how it works, I have just installed it today. I have one thing to sum it up: it's AWESOME! I cannot say enough about it to make anyone believe it. It's easily 50%, if not 100%, faster in all system events. Load-up time is cut in half at least! I don't want to sound crazy; I'm just one happy camper. Oh yeah, OS/2 Performance is the latest beta version for the upcoming OS/2 for Windows. It's available for public testing so anyone can call up and get a copy. Everything seems to work fine so far and I even seem to have none of the problems THUS FAR mentioned on the net. I will report problems (and fixes) as they come to my attention. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:04:26 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28889 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 10:04:23 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15594; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 10:33:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 10:33:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hk.super.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15579; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 10:33:46 -0400 Received: by hk.super.net id AA13314 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 22:33:34 +0800 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 22:33:34 +0800 From: "Mr. Tony K Ng" Message-Id: <199406101433.AA13314@hk.super.net> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Gotta question to the 750C owners who have RAM card in their notebook. I heard that there are two kinds of RAM cards: one that needs 5V supply and one that needs 3V supply. Is this true?? If yes, any important effects? -Tony From mike@filtronic.com Fri Jun 10 12:04:22 1994 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02901 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 12:04:17 -0500 Received: from filtroni.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa29080; 10 Jun 94 17:53 GMT-60:00 From: Mike O'Carroll X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Network cards Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 17:51:28 BST Message-Id: <9406101751.aa00811@lopass.filtronic.com> Status: OR A belated reply. I have a 750Cs and an IBM Credit Card Ethernet adapter. Installation was pretty straightforward using IBM's supplied disk. The main problem was that the Novell installation procedure didn't seem to recognise the drivers on IBM's disk. What I did was install any old driver supplied by Novell, then manually copy IBM's driver into the right place and edit the autoexec accordingly. This worked for both Dos & OS/2 (I have dual boot). Under Dos, I run ODI + odipkt without any problems, though the default pkt int vector of 0x60 didn't seem to work. I settled for 0x68 in the end. I can also run odi + nmodi (Netmanage's Chameleon driver) no problem. I haven't found any raw packet drivers for this card, but odi + odipkt will do for now. I haven't tried odinsup under OS/2 on this machine yet, but have no reason to believe it won't work (it does on my PS/2 OK). Hope this is of interest. Mike From paul@research.att.com Fri Jun 10 12:34:04 1994 Received: from research.att.com (ninet.research.att.com) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10938 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 12:34:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199406101734.AA10938@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Received: by research.att.com; Fri Jun 10 13:32 EDT 1994 Received: from argo.tempo.att.com.UUCP by allegra.tempo.att.com; id AA02225; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:32:02 EDT Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:32:20 EDT From: paul@research.att.com (Paul Krzyzanowski) To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: OS/2 Performance and TP75x Status: OR Thanks for posting your experiences with OS/2 Performance. Not being an OS/2 user (yet) and being a relatively new Thinkpad user, I have a couple of naive questions: 1. Is this something I download from the IBM BBS or do I have to call somewhere and ask for it? If it's the latter, whom do I call? 2. Since it's the beta version of os/2 for windows, I presume that I can install this on windows (and cleanly uninstall it if I choose)? Thanks for any help! Paul paul@research.att.com Bell Labs, Murray Hill From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:56:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20717 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 12:56:04 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00571; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 13:10:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 13:10:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00553; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 13:09:56 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id KAA22437; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 10:09:59 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 10:09:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Hosmer Subject: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 To: Thinkpad List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Does anyone know of a CD-ROM drive (other than IBM's docking station) that will work under OS/2. I am looking for something PCMCIA or Parallel connected. I would not mind docking it, but the things are so *!#@ expensive. Any suggestions? Stephen Hosmer shosmer@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:53:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20573 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 11 Jun 1994 03:53:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05584; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 04:24:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 04:24:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05571; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 04:24:06 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA19021 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 11 Jun 1994 03:23:51 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406110823.AA19021@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: OS/2 Performance and TP75x To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 03:23:50 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199406101734.AA10938@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> from "Paul Krzyzanowski" at Jun 10, 94 01:32:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Not being an OS/2 user (yet) and being a relatively new > Thinkpad user, I have a couple of naive questions: > 1. Is this something I download from the IBM BBS or do > I have to call somewhere and ask for it? If it's the > latter, whom do I call? You can download OS/2 Perf from IBM NSC BBS if you have a subscription ($18/month) or from CompuServe. It's almost 20 disks though so I would advise against this strategy. It's available on CD-ROM from 1-800-251-2177. Call soon because the beta program is supposed to be stopping at the end of the month. If you don't have a CD-ROM, this is probably still the best way to go since it costs ~$15 and, as long as you can beg, borrow, or cheat a CD-ROM drive for an hour, you can make the disk images you need to install it onto your TP. > 2. Since it's the beta version of os/2 for windows, I > presume that I can install this on windows (and cleanly > uninstall it if I choose)? You can indeed install this version over an existing copy of Windows 3.1. I don't know about Windows 3.11. Windows for Workgroups 3.11 is not supported in the beta version although IBM claims it will be supported in the final version. I don't know about the uninstall cleanly (or at least simply). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:08:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21908 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 11 Jun 1994 09:08:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01916; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 09:44:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 09:43:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01904; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 09:43:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199406111343.JAA01904@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 94 9:40:55 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: TP755 memory upgrade To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi all, Just got my TP755Cs. After reading user's guide, I found the memory can be upgraded by IC DRAM or DIMMs. Using IC DRAM, it can be added up to 20Mb. But using DIMMs, you have to install the DIMM adapter, which has 2 sockets, then you can expand up to 36Mb (2 16Mb DIMMs). My questions are : 1. the differences between IC DRAM and DIMM? 2. the differences between DIMM and SIMM? 3. which one will be cheaper? Could anyone give me some ideas? I'm very happy to hear your opinion. -yc PS: After playing it a while, all I can say is GRAET machine!:-) In fact, I returned my TP750Cs 2 weeks ago:-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 11 18:25:26 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03981 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 11 Jun 1994 18:25:24 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06703; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 19:02:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 19:02:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06697; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 19:02:44 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id SAA01409; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 18:49:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199406112249.SAA01409@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755 memory upgrade In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 11 Jun 1994 09:40:55 EDT." <199406111343.JAA01904@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 18:49:30 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR could someone summarize the differences between the 750 and 755? thanks Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 12 15:55:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25104 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:55:32 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11806; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 16:33:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 16:33:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11799; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 16:33:08 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA15975 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 12 Jun 1994 02:31:53 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406120731.AA15975@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: TP755 memory upgrade To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 02:31:52 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199406112249.SAA01409@wilma.cs.utk.edu> from "Keith Moore" at Jun 11, 94 06:49:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > could someone summarize the differences between the 750 and 755? >From what I understand: faster CPU (and upgradeable?), built-in microphone, 1.44 floppy (probably more compatible), bigger hard drives. Am I forgetting anything? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Jun 12 16:08:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28509 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 12 Jun 1994 16:08:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03547; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:18:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:18:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03530; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:18:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199406121918.PAA03530@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by lohengrin.top.cis.syr.edu id aa05265; 12 Jun 94 13:16 EDT Date: Sun, 12 Jun 94 9:31:47 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: Re: TP755 memory upgrade To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Status: OR > could someone summarize the differences between the 750 and 755? > > thanks > > Keith Hi, As far as I know, the followings are some differences between TP750 and TP755: 1. You have two choices of CPUs, DX2/50 or DX4/75. The DX2/50 model can be upgraded to DX4/75! 2. Build in integrated microphone 3. Memory expandable to 36MB 4. Local bus video 5. Preload software: . PC DOS 6.3 . MS Windows 3.1 . FaxWorks 3.0 for Windows . American On-line . Lotus organizer . CC:Mail . OAG FlightDisk . Prodigy . TP755 demos (42 MB)!!! 6. The system startup can be set by PCMCIA:-) 7. The diskette drive is provided with 1.44MB or 2.88BM. (Be ware! I got the 1.44MB model, because I didn't know that in advance:-(....) 8. Hard disk can be upgraded to 810MB -yc From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Jun 12 16:24:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01479 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 12 Jun 1994 16:24:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01500; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:04:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:04:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from kitten.mcs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01493; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:04:05 -0400 Received: by kitten.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.7) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 23:29 CDT Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 23:29 CDT Received: by falkor.chi.il.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Sat, 11 Jun 94 23:26:31 CDT for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Any Enet Experience? From: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us (Ron Heiby) Message-Id: <8HksNc1w165w@falkor.chi.il.us> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 94 23:16:30 CST Organization: DML, Inc., Buffalo Grove, IL Status: OR I'm interested in getting my TP750C set up with Ethernet connectivity. My primary goal is to be able to network with my desktop system when my TP is at home. I don't know why, but I have the impression that Windows for Workgroups 3.11 is the cost-effective way to do this. My secondary goal is to be able to communicate with a UNIX system running TCP/IP (and potentially NFS) that I plan to set up, also at home. I don't know what I need in the way of software to be able to do this. I've seen several NFS packages for PCs advertised and reviewed, but since it's just for me, I'm looking for something pretty inexpensive. I'm also interested in inexpensive hardware. I recently received a note (I think on this mailing list) about a special program that 3Com is running with their PCMCIA Ethernet card that's in the right price range. However, when I called them for more information and tried to ask about ThinkPad compatability and Easy Playing PCMCIA drivers, I had the feeling that I was speaking a foreign language. Anyway, since I'm already using the Easy Playing software from IBM for my MHz modem, I'd like to avoid using another huge chunk of memory for drivers for the network. (This is especially the case, as I'm planning to get a PCMCIA SCSI card and have the same memory desires with regards to it.) Has anyone got any experiences with reasonably priced Ethernet hardware and/or software (like the 3Com) that could help educate me a bit as to whether what I'm looking for might exist yet? Thank you very much! Ron. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:34:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03309 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 12 Jun 1994 16:34:57 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15255; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 17:09:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 17:09:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15247; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 17:09:51 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0qCwsQ-0004trC; Sun, 12 Jun 94 16:15 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qCwew-0009b7C; Sun, 12 Jun 94 16:01 CDT Received: from freedm by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0qCwo1-000BhMC; Sun, 12 Jun 94 16:11 CDT Received: by freedm.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0qCwdJ-000FTiC; Sun, 12 Jun 94 15:59 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@freedm.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Disk Upgrades To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:59:57 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR So far I can only report failure on performing a disk upgrade to the 750. While the actual upgrade is technically feasible, the problem is finding a drive to fit the system at a reasonable price. Note that the 750 requires at most a 17mm high drive with and IDE interface. The Toshiba drives are 19mm's high. Maxtor's drives are 17mm, but are not very dense (i.e. ~260MB). While I have found the 340Mb IBM drive, it was offered for $949. I don't know what IBM is selling the 750's 340MB drive for today, but I would guess that PC-Direct's price would be close to $950. IBM's 540MB and 810MB drives appear to be only sold direct by IBM, not through distribution. IBM would not sell a limited quantity to an end user. (Read, would you like 10,000 or 20,000 per month?) -- Scott Stratmoen | ..!atfs0!freedm!scott | scott@freedm.dsd.northrop.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:51:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03195 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 12 Jun 1994 19:51:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27405; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:31:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:31:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc7.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27370; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:31:36 -0400 From: Message-Id: <9406130031.AA19906@husc7.harvard.edu> Subject: info on the audio chip in the tp750 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:31:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Hi all...I read that IBM has mad a new MWave chip which has hardware-coded SB emulation (eliminating the need for svaudio.exe). Any chance that we can upgrade the current chip? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Jun 13 01:24:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04258 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 01:24:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02046; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 00:49:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 00:49:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02038; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 00:49:07 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA29658; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:39:59 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id UAA25984; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:39:57 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406130339.UAA25984@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Any Enet Experience? To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us (Ron Heiby) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <8HksNc1w165w@falkor.chi.il.us> from "Ron Heiby" at Jun 11, 94 11:16:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I'm interested in getting my TP750C set up with Ethernet connectivity. > My primary goal is to be able to network with my desktop system when > my TP is at home. I don't know why, but I have the impression that > Windows for Workgroups 3.11 is the cost-effective way to do this. My I've done precisely this in my own setup. Only 2 computers involved--the desktop and the TP750C. Both using 3Com Etherlink III cards, the TP750C using the PCMCIA version on the special promotion you mention later in your note. I presume you have the phone number if you called them. Don't worry about compatibility--it works perfectly (even says so on the box! The TP is one of the "official" computers it has been tested with and shown to work). > secondary goal is to be able to communicate with a UNIX system running > TCP/IP (and potentially NFS) that I plan to set up, also at home. I This part I can't help with. > I'm also interested in inexpensive hardware. I recently received a note > (I think on this mailing list) about a special program that 3Com is > running with their PCMCIA Ethernet card that's in the right price > range. However, when I called them for more information and tried to > ask about ThinkPad compatability and Easy Playing PCMCIA drivers, I > had the feeling that I was speaking a foreign language. Anyway, since > I'm already using the Easy Playing software from IBM for my MHz modem, > I'd like to avoid using another huge chunk of memory for drivers for > the network. (This is especially the case, as I'm planning to get a > PCMCIA SCSI card and have the same memory desires with regards to it.) If I were to buy a PCMCIA SCSI card, I think I'd get the Adaptec. Again, no need to worry about the 3Com card--works perfectly. Doesn't even require any drivers/PCMCIA socket services to work--it runs on some sort of "enabler" so when you have the 3Com drivers for your network, they automatically "find" the card. The only memory used will be that which the network and its drivers require. Oh, and by the way--I suggest you keep in mind that you may have to call 3Com's BBS to get drivers for Windows for WorkGroups to work with the PCMCIA card--but once you have them and edit out a couple of lines in the network.ini file, it works beautifully. I use a 10Base-T setup, with a crossover cable I made myself instead of an expensive hub, since a crossover cable will suffice in a 2-computer situation, but if you want to hookup a 3rd or more, I would recommend just using 10Base-2 (Coax) cabling instead--saves the expense of a hub ($300+). > Has anyone got any experiences with reasonably priced Ethernet hardware > and/or software (like the 3Com) that could help educate me a bit as to > whether what I'm looking for might exist yet? Thank you very much! > > Ron. I believe I just did! ;) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:25:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06217 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:25:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13274; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:54:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:54:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13261; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:54:06 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA15026; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 05:50:21 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 05:54:49 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <21289.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP750/755 differences Status: OR In message Sun, 12 Jun 94 9:31:47 EDT, yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu writes: >> could someone summarize the differences between the 750 and 755? > 3. Memory expandable to 36MB > 4. Local bus video > 8. Hard disk can be upgraded to 810MB These are also true of the 750. #8 requires a BIOS update but is guaranteed by IBM to work. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:48:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09750 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:48:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15177; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:20:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:20:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15168; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:20:19 -0400 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA16431; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:14:18 -0500 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA95068; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:19:24 -0500 From: gbu@lochness.uhc.com (Gary Udstrand) Message-Id: <9406131319.AA95068@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: Re: TP750/755 differences To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:19:23 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <21289.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Jun 13, 94 05:54:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Status: OR I was given a 750Cs as an eval unit by our IBM rep.. He told me that one of the differences between the two units is that the 755 has local bus video, the 750 does NOT. [ John Kim said : ] -> -> In message Sun, 12 Jun 94 9:31:47 EDT, yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu writes: -> -> >> could someone summarize the differences between the 750 and 755? -> -> > 3. Memory expandable to 36MB -> > 4. Local bus video -> > 8. Hard disk can be upgraded to 810MB -> -> These are also true of the 750. #8 requires a BIOS update but is guaranteed -> by IBM to work. -> -- -> John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like -> jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole -> This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" -> -- __ __ | | o | | Gary Udstrand | | \|/ | | AT&T: (612) 945-6523 Advanced Technology, IS&T | \(_)/ | Fax: (612) 945-6502 United HealthCare Corp \_________/ E-Mail: gbu@uhc.com "A sufficiently high level of technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:20:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15510 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:20:30 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18079; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:51:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:51:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18072; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:51:56 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) id JAA06288; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:51:52 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wellington.ce.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wellington.ce.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VUI.Andrew.3.70.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.wellington.ce.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.wellington.ce.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:48:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Curtis P. Yeske" To: outnews+netnews.comp.os.os2.misc@andrew.cmu.edu, outnews+netnews.comp.sys.laptops@andrew.cmu.edu, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: SCSI/OS2/PCMCIA/TP750 Help needed Cc: "Curtis P. Yeske" , "Daniel R. Rehak" Status: OR We have a fairly large installed base of IBM ThinkPad 750Cs's, running OS/2 2.xx. Due to some ordering snafu's a large part of the supporting infrastructure is not available to us (e.g. docking stations). We are fairly desperate for PCMCIA cards that can support a wide range of scsi devices, (CD ROM's, etc.) under OS/2. For the initial installations we used ParaSCSI from Linksys, through the printer port, under a "DOS >from Drive A:" window. This works well, but does not support OS/2 at this time. Recommendations? Experiences? Pointers? Thanks in advance, Curt Yeske cy13@andrew.cmu.edu (412) 268-2891 Carnegie Mellon Civil Computing From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:10:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13848 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 11:10:30 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27752; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 11:35:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 11:35:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hsdndev.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27738; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 11:35:44 -0400 From: Received: from warren.med.harvard.edu by jenner.med.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20762; Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:31:59 -0400 Received: from ccMail by warren.med.harvard.edu id AA771532491 Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:34:51 EST Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:34:51 EST Message-Id: <9405137715.AA771532491@warren.med.harvard.edu> To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Any Enet Experience? Status: OR My biggest problem with the 3COM PCMCIA LAN card is the lack of drivers for OS/2. It works fine with the TP750C in IBM DOS/MS Windows going to Novell Netware 3.11 and using winsock (trumpet) for TCP/IP support. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:45:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03671 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 13:45:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09596; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 13:46:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 13:46:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09577; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 13:46:01 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA13497 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 12:45:36 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406131745.AA13497@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: TP755 and TP750 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 12:45:34 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199406121918.PAA03540@CS.UTK.EDU> from "yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu" at Jun 12, 94 02:45:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > As far as I know, the followings are some differences between > TP750 and TP755: > 3. Memory expandable to 36MB Note that the TP750 is also expandable to 36MB RAM. > 6. The system startup can be set by PCMCIA:-) What does this mean? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:25:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18987 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 14:25:28 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16471; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 14:47:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 14:47:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.gte.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16460; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 14:47:46 -0400 Received: from bunny.gte.com by ns.gte.com (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4) id AA22723; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 14:48:36 -0400 Received: from sun by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.19) id AA15416; Mon, 13 Jun 94 14:44:59 -0400 Received: by sun.gte.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27991; Mon, 13 Jun 94 14:45:16 EDT Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 14:45:16 EDT From: cvl0%sun@gte.com (Carol Lafond) Message-Id: <9406131845.AA27991@sun.gte.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755 -TP750 differences Status: OR ----- Begin Included Message ----- As far as I know, the following are some differences between TP750 and TP755: 1. You have two choices of CPUs, DX2/50 or DX4/75. The DX2/50 model can be upgraded to DX4/75! 2. Build in integrated microphone 3. Memory expandable to 36MB 4. Local bus video 5. Preload software: . PC DOS 6.3 . MS Windows 3.1 . FaxWorks 3.0 for Windows . American On-line . Lotus organizer . CC:Mail . OAG FlightDisk . Prodigy . TP755 demos (42 MB)!!! 6. The system startup can be set by PCMCIA:-) 7. The diskette drive is provided with 1.44MB or 2.88BM. (Be ware! I got the 1.44MB model, because I didn't know that in advance:-(....) 8. Hard disk can be upgraded to 810MB -yc ----- End Included Message ----- We are on the waiting list for the 755C and would like to run Solaris unix on it. We've talked to Solaris and they told us that Solaris 2.4 runs on the 750, but they don't have a 755 yet either, so they can't tell us that it will run on the 755. They said that the key is whether there are any different on board divices on the 755. Does anyone know if any of these differences would involve on onboard device? Are there any other differences that could cause us trouble running Solaris? Thanks, Carol From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:59:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12385 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 19:59:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18253; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 20:25:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 20:25:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18217; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 20:25:40 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA16995; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 17:21:58 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 17:26:22 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <62783.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 3Com Enet promo Status: OR In message Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:39:57 -0700 (PDT), Randal Whittle writes: > I've done precisely this in my own setup. Only 2 computers > involved--the desktop and the TP750C. Both using 3Com Etherlink III > cards, the TP750C using the PCMCIA version on the special promotion you > mention later in your note. ... Don't worry about compatibility--it > works perfectly (even says so on the box! The TP is one of the > "official" computers it has been tested with and shown to work). Has anyone gotten this particular card working under OS/2? I'd like to know before I sink the money. Thanks. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 21:58:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07464 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 21:58:56 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29608; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 22:26:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 22:26:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from serv0.cae.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29601; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 22:26:40 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu by serv0.cae.wisc.edu (4.1/31D) id AA26182; Mon, 13 Jun 94 21:26:38 CDT Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 21:26:38 CDT Message-Id: <9406140226.AA26182@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: 3Com Enet & Port Replicator Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) X-Mailer: Status: OR At 08:39 PM 6/12/94 -0700, Randal Whittle wrote: >Both using 3Com Etherlink III >cards, the TP750C using the PCMCIA version on the special promotion you >mention later in your note. I presume you have the phone number if you >called them. Don't worry about compatibility--it works perfectly (even >says so on the box! The TP is one of the "official" computers it has been >tested with and shown to work). > Well, the 3com PCMCIA board _almost_ works perfectly with the Thinkpad and the Easyplay drivers. The only problem is that you must put the card into Slot A or Slot B, i.e. one of the 2 slots _that is in your Thinkpad_. In other words, if you have the PCMCIA Port Replicator (like I do), the 3com board will not work at all in the replicator slots. I have actually found the person in charge of this at 3com. The problem is that THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THEIR PORT REPLICATOR SINCE EARLY APRIL!! Shheesh! Supposedly, their vendor says that the replicators are back-ordered. Anyone who works at IBM reading this? Could someone in the IBM Thinkpad division loan 3Com a port replicator so that they can make a product which is compatible with your product? If so, please email me (tannenba@engr.wisc.edu) and I'll supply the name/number of the guy in charge at 3com.... Thanks Todd From kensan@VNET.IBM.COM Tue Jun 14 04:27:41 1994 Received: from vnet.ibm.com by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29025 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 14 Jun 1994 04:27:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199406140927.AA29025@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Received: from YMTVM4 by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6501; Tue, 14 Jun 94 05:27:22 EDT Date: Tue, 14 Jun 94 18:27:27 JST From: Ken Inoue To: Sean Chou Subject: Re: Is video on 360 and 755 interchangeable Status: OR Sean: My apologies for the delay. To cut a long story short, the 750C panel MAY work in the 755C but this is not supported by IBM; the warranties will be void if tried. I would strongly recommend against doing that. Also, if you are thinking about swapping a 755CS panel with a 750C panel, you will want to note that the 755CS panel will NOT work in the 750C (the 750CS has a newer revision level of video chip). Best regards, Ken Inoue *** Forwarding note from ychou --uxa.cso. 06/03/94 00:58 *** - - - - - - - - - - F o r w a r d e d N o t e - - - - - - - - - - Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by vnet.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 03 Jun 94 01:57:58 EDT Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA24998 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for kensan@VNET.IBM.COM); Fri, 3 Jun 1994 00:58:09 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406030558.AA24998@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Is video on 360 and 755 interchangeable To: kensan@VNET.IBM.COM (Ken Inoue) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 00:58:08 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199406020305.AA14430@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> from "Ken Inoue" at Jun 2, 94 12:04:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 268 > the video chip to be programmed in a specific manner. Since the 755 has > only TFT model and DSTN color model, the 755 BIOS does not support a > STN mono panel. The 360 BIOS will not work on a 755 because of various But will the TP750 TFT screen work with the 755? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 15 03:16:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04281 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 15 Jun 1994 03:16:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14888; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 03:51:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 03:51:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14881; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 03:51:30 -0400 Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (actually localhost) by brolga.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP (PP); Wed, 15 Jun 1994 17:51:21 +1000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 17:51:17 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Murdoch Subject: Introduction + Sound Card Emulation Question To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hi all, I've just subscribed to this list and as per the instructions, here is my introduction. My newly aquired Thinkpad 750 has 340 MB Hard drive 4MB RAM (another 4 coming soon) IBM DOS 6.1 Windows 3.1 Soon to have OS/2 (maybe Personal OS/2 if I can find it :) (i.e. when I get the other 4MB RAM :) Thinkdock I (For home) Port replicator on order(for work) My first questions to the group is - Is there an option to emulate a Soundblaster using the thinkpads built in sound device ? - Is it included in the Extended Audio Features Disk you can send away for ? - Can I get the Extended Audio Features Disk from an FTP site somewhere ? >From the FAQ I assume that all I need is on the Audio Features disk 1.10 - so I guess the third question is the most important one, i.e. are revisions of the audio driver disk (and the other disks I guess) available on an FTP site somewhere ? Thanks in Advance ant From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:05:07 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29457 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 15 Jun 1994 08:05:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11593; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 08:36:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 08:36:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11583; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 08:36:30 -0400 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.4.3.f) via EUnet id OAA22141; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 14:37:15 +0200 From: Klaus Eckhoff Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 14:35:15 +0200 Message-Id: <9406151235.AA12157@osix.Materna.DE> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 3COM EtherLink III 589 PCMCIA LAN anybody Status: OR Hello, I'm thinking of getting an 3C-589 PCMCIA LAN adaptor, because this one is supported by SCO UNIX/ODT running on my TP750C. Is there any experience with this adaptor running DOS/Windows with or without EZPLAY? Does it require an external power supply? Finally the old question again: Is there an FTP site where to get the latest versions of all the needed TP driveres etc. I'm interested in the BIOS upgrade to use larger harddisks (like the TP755). Are there any prices avaliable for these new drives? Thanks for your help! --- Klaus Eckhoff, Dr. Materna GmbH, D-44141 Dortmund, Germany, ke@Materna.DE From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:29:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14993 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 15 Jun 1994 14:29:47 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17087; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 14:43:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 14:43:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from technet1.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17079; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 14:43:11 -0400 Received: from mm-gw.shl.com by technet1.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA27400; Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:39:17 PDT Received: by mm-gw.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <2DFF4BCB@mm-gw.shl.com>; Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:43:23 PDT From: NELSON Tim To: "TP750@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: RE: subscription request Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:12:00 PDT Message-Id: <2DFF4BCB@mm-gw.shl.com> Encoding: 22 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Status: OR tnelson@shl.com has been added to the tp750 mailing list. RE: Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST address -- don't just reply to this message!) Greetings from Los Angeles, California. (City of Cerritos to be exact) I am Tim Nelson, Chief Scientist, SHL Systemhouse Inc. My speciality is Application Development Environments. That is, anything that lets human beings create application software better, faster, and/or cheaper. I am using a IBM Thinkpad 750Ce (50Mhz 486) with a 340M disk, 20M memory, and a Megahertz XJ1144 (14.4K bps + FAX with X-Jack). I am running Windows for Workgroups 3.11. I plan to be install Windows NT onto a second drive very soon. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:23:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21041 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:22:57 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25334; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:45:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:45:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25307; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:45:16 -0400 Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (actually localhost) by brolga.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP (PP); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 11:44:37 +1000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 11:44:31 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Murdoch Subject: Re: 3COM EtherLink III 589 PCMCIA LAN anybody To: Klaus Eckhoff Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9406151235.AA12157@osix.Materna.DE> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Wed, 15 Jun 1994, Klaus Eckhoff wrote: > > I'm thinking of getting an 3C-589 PCMCIA LAN adaptor, because this one > is supported by SCO UNIX/ODT running on my TP750C. > > Is there any experience with this adaptor running DOS/Windows with > or without EZPLAY? Does it require an external power supply? > I've been using the 3c589 in a COMPAQ contura for about 2 months and in my new Thinkpad 750 for the past two weeks without a problem. I've been using the ODI drivers provided. On the Concerto I was using the IPXODI link for Windows 3.11 again with no problem. I've even played doom between two notebooks using 3c589 adaptors connected via a 10base-t cross over cable. The only problem I have with them is the lack of OS/2 drivers. When I load Personal OS/2 onto the thinkpad, I'd like to use the 3c589 for my ethernet connection :| There is no need for an external power supply. Cheers ant From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 15 23:34:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13509 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 15 Jun 1994 23:34:45 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07320; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 00:12:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 00:12:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07313; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 00:12:20 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA26049; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:08:35 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:12:57 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <76378.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Introduction + Sound Card Emulation Question Status: OR In message Wed, 15 Jun 1994 17:51:17 +1000 (EST), Anthony Murdoch writes: > 4MB RAM (another 4 coming soon) C'mon, you can go for an 8 MB card. :) Seriously, even if you don't need that much memory, a 4-6 MB ramdisk can do wonders for your battery life. I've managed to make my 750 mono (12 MB) run for almost 8 hours on one charge when I let the hard drive spin down and played games off a ramdisk. >From the FAQ I assume that all I need is on the Audio Features disk 1.10 > > - so I guess the third question is the most important one, i.e. are > revisions of the audio driver disk (and the other disks I guess) > available on an FTP site somewhere ? Sean, it looks like you'd better add something to the FAQ about why the disks aren't currently available via ftp, and how we're hoping they soon will be. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 15 23:52:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15888 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 15 Jun 1994 23:51:59 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09459; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 00:29:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 00:29:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09452; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 00:29:09 -0400 Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (actually localhost) by brolga.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP (PP); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:28:02 +1000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:27:54 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Murdoch Subject: RE: Introduction + Sound Card Emulation Question To: John Kim Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <76378.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Wed, 15 Jun 1994, John Kim wrote: > In message Wed, 15 Jun 1994 17:51:17 +1000 (EST), > Anthony Murdoch writes: > > 4MB RAM (another 4 coming soon) > > C'mon, you can go for an 8 MB card. :) Seriously, even if you don't need > that much memory, a 4-6 MB ramdisk can do wonders for your battery life. > I've managed to make my 750 mono (12 MB) run for almost 8 hours on one > charge when I let the hard drive spin down and played games off a ramdisk. > Unfortunately my manager thought a machine with more RAM would be hard to sell after I've finished my stint with it (I work in conjunction with a Uni retail outlet and our equipment gets rotated as shop stock, so I get to play with a few of the more recent toys :) - I originally asked for a 16MB upgrade, but they are expensive. I get to use a desktop PC with 32MB RAM, so I cannot complain too much :) > Sean, it looks like you'd better add something to the FAQ about why the > disks aren't currently available via ftp, and how we're hoping they soon > will be. > Do tell ? ant From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:57:28 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22283 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:57:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28506; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:12:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:12:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28497; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:12:38 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id MAA25982; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 12:12:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 12:12:52 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199406161912.MAA25982@netcom.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, shosmer@netcom.com Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 Status: OR Unfortunately there are no PCMCIA options available and I would avoid parallel port options like the plague unless you want to play with EPP ( YUK PUKE SPIT !!!! ). I plonked the cash for the dock and have not regretted it yet. Martin Smith msmith @netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:23:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00458 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:23:28 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01206; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:41:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:41:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01183; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:41:24 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA16432 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:41:05 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406161941.AA16432@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: New FAQ To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:41:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR The latest FAQ has been uploaded to assistant.beckman.uiuc.edu. A lot of new stuff was added. I'm also in the process of thinking if I should expand it to a tp75x FAQ. I sort of have, at least in spirit. Of course, the 360's would probably fall in there... Anyway, I will also be posting the FAQ to our list for those who do not have FTP access or are too lazy to get it! :) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:56:07 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10366 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:56:04 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03236; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:01:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:01:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03225; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:01:15 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA04839; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 13:01:05 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id NAA28164; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 13:00:50 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406162000.NAA28164@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 To: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 13:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199406161912.MAA25982@netcom.com> from "Martin P. Smith" at Jun 16, 94 12:12:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Unfortunately there are no PCMCIA options available and I would avoid > parallel port options like the plague unless you want to play with > EPP ( YUK PUKE SPIT !!!! ). I plonked the cash for the dock and have > not regretted it yet. > Martin Smith > msmith @netcom.com What do you have against the EPP? (I have no real experience with it) It seems to me that a person who bought a standard, SCSI-based external CD-ROM drive could have a perfectly workable solution if they also got a PCMCIA or Parallel-based SCSI solution. Both exist and are readily available. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 16:25:23 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18684 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:25:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03774; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:09:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:09:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03767; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:09:51 -0400 Received: from mongrel (MONGREL.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA20208; Thu, 16 Jun 94 15:04:17 CDT Date: Thu, 16 Jun 94 15:04:17 CDT Message-Id: <9406162004.AA20208@austin.wireline.slb.com> X-Sender: byrne@pigpen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Subject: Kudos to IBM Service. X-Mailer: Status: OR Tuesday night I turned on my 750C and had the unfortunate experience of seeing a screen fail. The screen had a black fractal like pattern eminating >from the upper left corner and spreading to the center of the screen. The whole upper left quadrant of the screen was useless. At 8:00am Wednesday morning I called the IBM 800 Service number. Within 10 minutes I was called back by local IBM Service. Within 2 hours, the machine was picked up from my office and taken in for repair. Early Thursday morning, the machine was returned to me at my office with a replaced screen. Everything was covered by warranty. What impressed me more than the 1 day turn around was that these guys were apologizing because they couldn't fix it on the spot. They had to get a screen brought in from Dallas. Kudos to IBM Service, and to Chip and Terry of the Austin IBM Service Center! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wes Byrne Schlumberger Austin Systems Center 8311 North FM 620 Road Austin, TX 78726-1300 (512) 331-3411 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 16:29:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19766 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:29:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05075; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:24:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:24:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from research.att.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05068; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:24:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199406162024.QAA05068@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by research.att.com; Thu Jun 16 16:17 EDT 1994 Received: from argo.tempo.att.com.UUCP by allegra.tempo.att.com; id AA21734; Thu, 16 Jun 94 16:17:23 EDT Date: Thu, 16 Jun 94 16:17:32 EDT From: paul@research.att.com (Paul Krzyzanowski) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: games with sound Status: OR There's been at least one request for information on getting Doom working properly on the thinkpad. I've not succeeded except in using the pc speaker. I've tried running The 7th Guest and ran into the same problem -- the software wants to know the sound card, port number, and IRQ. Has anyone had any luck with getting either of these games running on the 750? Paul Krzyzanowski From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:11:28 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02183 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:11:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08363; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:04:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:04:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08277; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:03:48 -0400 Received: from FirstPerson.COM (rampart.EBay.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA18377; Thu, 16 Jun 94 14:02:23 PDT Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by FirstPerson.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27412; Thu, 16 Jun 94 14:01:18 PDT Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA11179; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:01:15 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12411; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:03:19 +0800 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:03:19 +0800 From: Chuck.McManis@firstperson.com (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9406162103.AA12411@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, paul@research.att.com Subject: Re: games with sound X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: OR Well, I've finally got all of the scoop on this particular issue. I actually got it from the people at Digispeech (makers of the Porta*Sound sound unit for laptops). Doom, and some others, write to the SoundBlaster registers directly with the processor in "protected" mode. Basically they are using a DOS extender (4GW) which allows them to use a full 32 bit address space. The IBM sound blaster emulation, and the Porta*Sound sound blaster emulation both rely on a feature of the '386 and above called "virtual mode". In this mode you can configure the processor to trap on I/O to individual addresses. Both IBM and Digispeech put an interrupt handler on this trap, and add the sound blaster I/O port (220H) to the list the processor should trap on. When an application "writes" to the SoundBlaster, the processor traps, the emulation code looks at what was written and then emulates the function. Since Doom and some of the newer Sierra Online games take the system out of virtual mode to run in, they disable this feature of the system and the emulation code CANNOT function. Basically this means you will never get the kind of sound the system is capable of out of the system with Doom because it doesn't have a register compatible version of the SoundBlaster hardware. (Note I expect it irriates IBM to no end that their otherwise WONDERFUL machine is screwed because they didn't follow the hardware _exactly_ of the defacto industry standard. Its ironic that the clone manufacturers already figured this out when they tried to sell MS-DOS computers that ran only "well behaved" applications of which where were about two.) Hence the newere version of the MWave chip that is SoundBlaster register compatible. Although a bit of hardware that decoded the I/O address and generated an interrupt would work too. So there is one light on the horizon but it isn't too bright at the moment. Windows (which like these DOS extenders runs in protected mode) has good support for audio and I've yet to find a Windows program that wanted audio that couldn't use the TP's chip. Microsoft is attempting to create a Windows/Games interface for fast interaction while preserving the device driver abstraction. Their *PROTOTYPE* customer is id software and DOOM. (there was an article on this in the San Jose Mercury News). If Microsoft is successful in defining a standard, and if the game writers use it, then all games from that point on will be able to use the TP750's sound. The risk of course is that no one has ever been able to create a "Games" OS that the games programmers didn't think "got in their way" so they went right to the hardware. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:45:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09181 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:45:51 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10787; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:34:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:34:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10772; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:34:12 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA09742; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:34:07 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id OAA06787; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:34:06 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406162134.OAA06787@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Kudos to IBM Service. To: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9406162004.AA20208@austin.wireline.slb.com> from "Wes Byrne" at Jun 16, 94 03:04:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > At 8:00am Wednesday morning I called the IBM 800 Service number. Within 10 > minutes I was called back by local IBM Service. Within 2 hours, the machine > was picked up from my office and taken in for repair. Early Thursday > morning, the machine was returned to me at my office with a replaced screen. > Everything was covered by warranty. > > What impressed me more than the 1 day turn around was that these guys were > apologizing because they couldn't fix it on the spot. They had to get a > screen brought in from Dallas. > > Kudos to IBM Service, and to Chip and Terry of the Austin IBM Service Center! My experience was nearly as good (just add a couple more days to it) and for a lot smaller of a problem (my screen hinge was just a touch loose-- and a rattling sound must have been the screw!). Also, after only a few months, the connector where the power is received decided to disengage itself from the rest of the cable covering, hanging on only by a few wires. IBM cheerfully sent me a new power adapter the next day and a couple days later, sent UPS out to pick up the old one. I am a previous owner of a SHARP notebook machine which had its own little set of problems. I paid the $ premium for the IBM machine because I wanted better service and assistance when problems cropped up. The extra $ hurt a little, but it is times like this that make me *very* happy I bought an IBM. I've never even been a big IBM freak, but after these positive experiences, I may be buying more IBM machines in the future. After years of customer ignorance, it seems IBM has learned their lesson. I for one am very glad they did. Kudos! ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:46:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09313 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:46:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12396; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:54:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:54:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12389; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:54:04 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA10859; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:54:01 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id OAA08835; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:53:58 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406162153.OAA08835@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 To: shosmer@netcom.com (Stephen Hosmer) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Stephen Hosmer" at Jun 16, 94 02:43:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > If you know of a PCMCIA to SCSI option for OS/2 please speek up. I have > been looking for such an animal and keep hitting brick walls. > > Stephen Hosmer > shosmer@netcom.com Ummm....Duhhhh...(I forgot the problem was getting it to work with OS/2!!!) I'll try not to rip on you OS/2 types, but sometimes I can't help it... THIS is what you get for being on the "cutting edge" as it were. Namely, little or no driver support. If its as crippling as it appears, I don't understand why people stay so loyal to OS/2. I've tried it in 3 different incarnations (versions 1.3, 2.0, 2.1) and every time gave up on it for precisely the same reason you can't find a PCMCIA to SCSI or parallel to SCSI solution--no driver support. All that fancy multitasking doesn't do a lot of good when one can't even get drivers to run their devices... ...okay, I'll shut up now. :) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:49:26 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09877 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:49:23 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11640; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:44:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:44:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11632; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:44:20 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id OAA26324; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:43:56 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:43:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Hosmer Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 To: Randal Whittle Cc: Thinkpad List In-Reply-To: <199406162000.NAA28164@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR If you know of a PCMCIA to SCSI option for OS/2 please speek up. I have been looking for such an animal and keep hitting brick walls. Stephen Hosmer shosmer@netcom.com On Thu, 16 Jun 1994, Randal Whittle wrote: > > Unfortunately there are no PCMCIA options available and I would avoid > > parallel port options like the plague unless you want to play with > > EPP ( YUK PUKE SPIT !!!! ). I plonked the cash for the dock and have > > not regretted it yet. > > > Martin Smith > > msmith @netcom.com > > What do you have against the EPP? (I have no real experience with it) > > It seems to me that a person who bought a standard, SCSI-based > external CD-ROM drive could have a perfectly workable solution if they also > got a PCMCIA or Parallel-based SCSI solution. Both exist and are readily > available. > > ----- > Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu > University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) > - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... > "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin > "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 19:53:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00951 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 19:53:45 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21998; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:11:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:10:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from longs.lance.colostate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21989; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:10:57 -0400 Received: from longs.lance.colostate.edu (hamilton.lance.colostate.edu [129.82.188.37]) by longs.lance.colostate.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5a (LANCE 1.01)) with ESMTP id SAA19945; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 18:10:01 -0600 Message-Id: <199406170010.SAA19945@longs.lance.colostate.edu> To: Randal Whittle Cc: shosmer@netcom.com (Stephen Hosmer), TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:53:57 MDT." <199406162153.OAA08835@aludra.usc.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 18:10:00 -0600 From: Tom Aurand Status: OR EPP works under OS/2 though I have not tried it on a TP750C. >> >> If you know of a PCMCIA to SCSI option for OS/2 please speek up. I have >> been looking for such an animal and keep hitting brick walls. >> >> Stephen Hosmer >> shosmer@netcom.com > > Ummm....Duhhhh...(I forgot the problem was getting it to work >with OS/2!!!) > > I'll try not to rip on you OS/2 types, but sometimes I can't help >it... > > THIS is what you get for being on the "cutting edge" as it were. >Namely, little or no driver support. If its as crippling as it appears, >I don't understand why people stay so loyal to OS/2. > > I've tried it in 3 different incarnations (versions 1.3, 2.0, 2.1) >and every time gave up on it for precisely the same reason you can't find >a PCMCIA to SCSI or parallel to SCSI solution--no driver support. > > All that fancy multitasking doesn't do a lot of good when one >can't even get drivers to run their devices... > > ...okay, I'll shut up now. :) Good move! You don't seem to know. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 20:02:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02813 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:02:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23332; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:29:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:29:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23324; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:29:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199406170029.UAA23324@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4400; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:29:38 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 7316; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:29:37 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (NJE origin KRUCK@WVNVM) by WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 6748; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:27:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:27:16 EDT From: "Ruckstuhl, Keith E" To: Subject: Re: Kudos to IBM Service Status: OR I also had a wonderful experience when the 340 Meg HD of my 750 mono started making "weird noises". I called IBM and had a new HD the next day....BUT But, the fact that UPS picks up the old part within a few days wasn't explicit, and they didn't tell me where to send the old drive. I sent it back to the IBM location that sent me the new one- BIG mistake. A rather "difficult" representative called me and _first_ accused me of not returning the drive. Not knowing what was wrong, I asked her to verify. She did indeed have evidence that I had returned the drive, but then claimed that she would have to charge me for it anyway. I indicated that I thought this was stupid, of course (only much more politely :). Then she claimed she would have to charge me because she didn't have record of my proof of purchase. Geez. It was in the box with the drive. I finally faxed a copy, and she didn't have the courtesy to do a followup call indicating that everything was in order. Moral? IBM service is great, but whoever is in charge of "potentially" delinquent accounts needs the same training... Thanks, I'm done venting now ;^) Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 21:37:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19149 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 21:37:52 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29151; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 21:49:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 21:49:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29144; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 21:49:26 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA11705 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:49:09 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406170149.AA11705@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: TP750, SCSI, and OS/2 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:49:09 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199406162153.OAA08835@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Jun 16, 94 02:53:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I'll try not to rip on you OS/2 types, but sometimes I can't help > it... Cheap, cheap.... > a PCMCIA to SCSI or parallel to SCSI solution--no driver support. Actually, there is parallel to SCSI support with the base package for the Trantor cable. Timothy Sipples has said that Future Domain has a PCMCIA SCSI card with OS/2 support. I haven't called them to confirm this yet, but if anyone does, let me know. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 01:18:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20290 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:18:01 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16117; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:49:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:49:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16105; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:49:31 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id WAA14979; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 22:49:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 22:49:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Martin P. Smith" Subject: Re: Kudos to IBM Service. To: Randal Whittle Cc: Wes Byrne , TP In-Reply-To: <199406162134.OAA06787@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I must add my 2 cents here as well. I stumped the cash for the extra service ( three year on site. ) Well the last month made it all worth while. A week and a half ago my trackpoint failed. I work four blocks from the IBM office and hand carried the machine to them ( time was of the essenece ) within 15 minutes the machine was fixed. Well this was not the end of it. I had to fly to Philadelphia the next day and during the flight the nice gentleman in front of me moves the seat back and lightly touches my screen I think mothing of it shut down the machine to watch the movie. On restarting the machine I find zero display ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!. Anyway IBM come out to my hotel and fix the machine for me. Great service. Kudos must go to IBM and in particular Megan Murphy from the IBM office in Philly. The best 120 bucks I ever spent. Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.COM From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 01:19:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20342 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:19:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15460; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:39:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:39:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15453; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:39:48 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id WAA12545; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 22:34:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 22:34:39 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199406170534.WAA12545@netcom.com> To: msmith@netcom.com, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR The problem is that SCSI for OS.2 is NOT available. also machines must be compatible with EPP I tried a Xircom adapter with my old Compaq and actually managed to fry data on my hard disk on boot up. It is what has put me off EPP unless REALLY neccesary. Martin Smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 06:29:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18012 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 06:29:55 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA11412; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 06:55:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 06:55:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA11396; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 06:55:09 -0400 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id NAA29313 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:55:08 +0300 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id NAA15130 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:54:28 +0300 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:54:28 +0300 Message-Id: <199406171054.NAA15130@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: There is no 32M for the 755 X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi! There seems to be a general misconception of how the 36M RAM is achieved. The max memory on the 755 is 36 because you can add two types of memory to the machine. You can add 4,8, and 16M IC-DRAM as for the 750. In addition to this you may add either a 4 or a 16 M DIM (to the motherboard). So, 36M = 4M + 16M + 16M and not 36M=4M + 32M. Sorry to dissappoint all you 750 owners (incl. me), antti From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 09:08:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03771 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 09:08:18 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23009; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 09:28:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 09:28:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23002; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 09:28:28 -0400 Received: from by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AB10349; Fri, 17 Jun 94 08:22:45 CDT Date: Fri, 17 Jun 94 08:22:45 CDT Message-Id: <9406171322.AB10349@austin.wireline.slb.com> X-Sender: byrne@pigpen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen), TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Subject: Re: There is no 32M for the 755 X-Mailer: Status: OR Kingston sells a 32mbyte internal credit card for the 750. I'll bet this same card will work in the 755. At 01:54 PM 6/17/94 +0300, Antti Kilpinen wrote: >Hi! > >There seems to be a general misconception of how the 36M RAM is achieved. >The max memory on the 755 is 36 because you can add two types of memory to >the machine. You can add 4,8, and 16M IC-DRAM as for the 750. In addition to >this you may add either a 4 or a 16 M DIM (to the motherboard). So, 36M = 4M >+ 16M + 16M and not 36M=4M + 32M. > >Sorry to dissappoint all you 750 owners (incl. me), > >antti > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wes Byrne Schlumberger Austin Systems Center 8311 North FM 620 Road Austin, TX 78726-1300 (512) 331-3411 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 10:21:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18988 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 10:21:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00337; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 10:43:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 10:43:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00330; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 10:43:28 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA18441; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 07:43:20 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id HAA01164; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 07:43:18 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406171443.HAA01164@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 To: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 07:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Martin P. Smith" at Jun 16, 94 10:52:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Ah but try running powerbuilder under windows and a day or two will > have you racing to OS/2. Powerbuilder crashes like crazy and my current > client has a boot cycle on the order of two to thhree minutes. > > Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.COM First of all, I suppose I should admit I don't know what Powerbuilder even *is*, so... :) Mind telling me what Powerbuilder does/is? (On a side note: I've found that most apps that crash a Windows setup a lot tend to do so because of sloppy programming. OS/2 just handles such a program better than Windows does. I'd be more likely to trash such sloppy software in favor of something else than to trash my operating environment for something else--much less drastic.) Second of all, I'll point out that their really aren't a whole lot of OS/2 apps out there. I'm glad its growing larger, but for most of the stuff I run--with the exception of Ami Pro and Freelance Graphics--don't have OS/2 versions. Yes, I know the other stuff runs under Win-OS/2 (I use virtually zero DOS apps--phased 'em out years ago, partly because Windows doesn't run them very well), but IMO, not very well. As for PageMaker and the others that *used* to have OS/2 versions, well--I don't want to step backwards and used version 3.x when PM version 5 is in use. Part of the reason I bought an Intel-based machine and not some Apple Mac was because I wanted a huge selection of apps and a certain compatibility with other people's machines. After going through 3 different incarnations of OS/2, I have realized that Operating Systems/Environments work best with apps that are designed specifically for them. Hence, just like DOS apps pretty much stink under Windows, Windows apps don't work all that well under OS/2. After a few weeks with OS/2 (in each different version--1.3, 2.0, 2.1), I finally realized "What am I doing using OS/2 to run a bunch of Windows apps?" The fact was that OS/2 really *wasn't* "a better Windows than Windows". So for those who have special needs that OS/2's robustness fills, I tip my hat to you--enjoy OS/2--especially if you have lots of OS/2 apps. For everyone else--hey, when you push the edges of computing evolution, you have to expect to blaze a trail. That means you have to scream a lot for more apps and drivers. I just don't enjoy doing that, so I stay in Windows, where the market over the past 3 years has dictated that most apps will be developed and numerous devices and drivers too. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From graff@VNET.IBM.COM Fri Jun 17 11:41:07 1994 Received: from vnet.ibm.com by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11847 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 11:41:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199406171641.AA11847@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Received: from STLVM27 by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8771; Fri, 17 Jun 94 12:40:45 EDT Date: Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:18:23 PDT From: "Michael Graff" To: JOKIM@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu, antti.kilpinen@abo.fi, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu Subject: Re: Is video on 360 and 755 interchangeable Reply-To: graff@VNET.IBM.COM (Michael Graff) News-Software: UReply 3.1 X-X-From: graff@vnet.ibm.com (Michael Graff) Status: OR In a previous message, you wrote: >One of the members of our TP750 mailing list has an unusual problem. >Perhaps you two can help with some definitive answers. Please reply to >the following addresses: > >antti.kilpinen@abo.fi (The person that asked the question) >ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The person in charge of the TP750 FAQ) >jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu (Me, out of curiousity) > >Thanks! >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >I need a TP with math-co and a mono screen. Since Tp750-mono is discontinued >IBM requires it's customers be more innovative. Actually I want both a >755-mono and a 360Cs (two separate units). Can I (i.e. IBM service) switch >the displays of a 360-mono and a 755Cs?. I think the wideo drivers are >identical for both color and mono models- how about between 360 and 755 >series?. As aresult I would get a 360Cs and a 755-mono. Is anyone on the net >familiar with the low level hardware of the TPs?. First, I wan't to know if >this is technically possible. Second, I must find someone to do the work so >that warranty is not affected) > >My option is to buy a 360Cs and a 360-mono(instead of the 755-mono) and must >suffice w/o math-co. Besides, IBM will loose the price difference of the >combinations. > >Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) >Research Fellow >Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research >Abo Akademi University, DataCity >FIN-20520 Turku >-- >John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like >jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole >This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" According to one of the ThinkPad developers, the 360 display is not upgradable. So that seems to rule out swapping displays between a 360 and a 755. The 750 units haven't been withdrawn yet, so you perhaps can still find a 750 mono. I suspect the 700-series mono units were not big sellers. I recall seeing 720 mono units being closed out by USA Flex in Computer Shopper magazine. Buyers of the 700 series apparently tend to want color. That's probably why there's no 755 mono. The other option, of course, is to "settle" for the 755Cs. It's perhaps 300-400 dollars more expensive than the 750 mono. ...Michael Graff From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 15:39:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17032 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:39:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29305; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:00:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:00:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29298; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:00:21 -0400 From: Message-Id: <9406172000.AA03801@husc.harvard.edu> Received: by scunix4.harvard.edu (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA01106; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:59:33 -0400 Subject: at&t vs. Mhz To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Cc: chan@husc.harvard.edu (Christopher Chan) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Which is better? The AT&T or theMhz XJ 2114 PCMCIA modem? Anyone haveany experiences? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:10:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25814 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:10:44 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02642; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:39:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:39:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02624; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:38:57 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA01791; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:36:50 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:39:23 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <49163.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: ant@cc.uq.oz.au Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Introduction + Sound Card Emulation Question Status: OR In message Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:27:54 +1000 (EST), Anthony Murdoch writes: > On Wed, 15 Jun 1994, John Kim wrote: >> Sean, it looks like you'd better add something to the FAQ about why the >> disks aren't currently available via ftp, and how we're hoping they >> soon will be. > Do tell ? The IBM ftp site (software.watson.ibm.com) is an experimental site. I've talked (well, exchanged mail) with the operator of the site and for him to put IBM software on it, he has to receive it from an IBMer with written authorization for public release via snail mail. The TP750 and its drivers are made by IBM-Japan. I've managed to get those people in touch with the ftp site operator and the software is supposedly on its way. I have no idea when it'll show up though, or how fast updates will make it. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 17:31:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14623 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 17:31:32 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09848; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 18:01:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 18:01:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from technet1.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09828; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 18:01:05 -0400 Received: from mm-gw.shl.com by technet1.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA26184; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:57:05 PDT Received: by mm-gw.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <2E021D45@mm-gw.shl.com>; Fri, 17 Jun 94 15:01:41 PDT From: NELSON Tim To: "tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750" Subject: RE: at&t vs. Mhz Date: Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:57:00 PDT Message-Id: <2E021D45@mm-gw.shl.com> Encoding: 33 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Status: OR I have a Mhz XJ 1144, and the X-Jack alone made me buy it. I have had IBM, EXP, and non-X-Jack Mhz in the past, and those external telephone connectors thing-a-mies are big enough to annoy me and tend to slip out if I move the computer slightly. I used duct tape to secure the connector on my IBM modem, because if it did not rest perfectly flat, I would hear the noise in the speaker even after connection. But most importantly, since I travel a lot, the X-JACK makes it trivial to connect up to arbitrary phone lines. Most of the time I unplug the wire >from the phone in the hotel or customer site, pop the X-Jack right out of the modem, and plug right in! Too simple. TimN P.S. I have not had ANY trouble with my Mhz since I started using the following Rockwell Modem commands in all my communications software: &F&C1&D2&K3&S1&Q5 to put it into error correction/data correction mode. ---------- From: owner-tp750 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750 Cc: chan Subject: at&t vs. Mhz Date: Friday, June 17, 1994 3:59PM Which is better? The AT&T or theMhz XJ 2114 PCMCIA modem? Anyone haveany experiences? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 18:29:07 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22420 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 18:29:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13925; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:03:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:03:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13917; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:03:06 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02436; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:01:17 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:03:54 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <57834.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: games with sound Status: OR In message Thu, 16 Jun 94 16:17:32 EDT, paul@research.att.com (Paul Krzyzanowski) writes: > There's been at least one request for information on getting > Doom [sound] working properly on the thinkpad. I've not succeeded > except in using the pc speaker. I've gotten the music to work, under an OS/2 DOS box. See Randal, OS/2 is good for something! :) -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 18:29:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22431 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 18:29:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13909; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:03:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:03:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13897; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:02:58 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02427; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:00:55 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:03:26 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <57807.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: at&t vs. Mhz Status: OR In message Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:59:32 -0400 (EDT), writes: > Which is better? The AT&T or theMhz XJ 2114 PCMCIA modem? > > Anyone haveany experiences? I've got both. :) I'd say go for the MegaHertz. The XJack thing is just too convenient to pass up. I originally bought an AT&T Keep In Touch modem because the only Megahertz modem available then didn't have a 16550 UART. The KIT worked fine but the LAM (line access module - plugs into the modem and phone jack) sticks out a ways. One day I dropped the computer a short distance and the LAM bent. I managed to bend it back and everything worked fine. Two weeks ago I stepped on the phone line while I was moving the computer. Rather than the LAM pulling out of the modem, it bent again, in the opposite direction. This time some of the metal connectors inside the LAM broke. I called AT&T to order a replacement LAM. They were backordered for at least two months. I couldn't live that long without a modem so I ordered the new Megahertz (XJ2114). It actually seems to work a little better, although that might be because I'd already taken the time to get the Easyplaying PCMCIA drivers working with the AT&T. The biggest plus for the Megahertz is the X-Jack, like I said. It is VERY convenient, and is much sturdier than I imagined. About the only bad thing I have to say about it the Megahertz is the manual doesn't include a complete AT command set. I had to look up the important stuff in the AT&T KIT manual. Megahertz dropped their prices the day I ordered (lucky me) and I was able to get the XJ2114 from Sparco for about $245. On the other hand, if anybody is interested in buying my AT&T modem in a few months (it's waiting for the new cable to come in), I'll accept bids. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 20:07:28 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03692 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 20:07:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18709; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 20:40:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 20:40:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18692; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 20:40:47 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id RAA16975; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 17:40:44 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id RAA17930; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 17:40:42 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406180040.RAA17930@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: games with sound To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 17:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <57834.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Jun 17, 94 04:03:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I've gotten the music to work, under an OS/2 DOS box. > > See Randal, OS/2 is good for something! :) >John Kim I'd like to just take a moment to let everyone know--especially you OS/2 types--that I very much respect and admire the efforts that have gone into OS/2, both on the part of IBM programmers and those rabid "Team OS/2" folks who have made it their personal mission to see to it that OS/2 is on every PC. Those of you who are the *real* OS/2 nuts will recognize my last name, but only if it were attached to a first name of "Dave"--yes, we're related. Yes--he's actually my brother. And if you don't think I've heard the best arguments in the world for OS/2 from him, then you are sadly mistaken. As I've said, I've had it installed on my desktop PC 3 different times in 3 different versions (though not on my TP750C), and believe me-- I gave it the hardware requirements it thirsted for (and then some). I *wanted* it to work--I *wanted* a true 32-bit multitasking monster. All I got was a wonderful operating system with few apps and lacking driver support--and I didn't see any reason to run OS/2 just so I could run my Windows apps--Windows did it better. I feel I've given OS/2 a very fair chance to work for me--its just that it always falls short. I've told Sean Chou already that if all the apps I used suddenly popped up with OS/2 versions *tomorrow* (and I could get them for the cost of disks or something)--then I'd switch back again tomorrow. If such an event occurred, then the driver support would follow too. I see OS/2's great potential, but the current reality just isn't as bright as its future. Meanwhile, if OS/2 ever *really* catches on as something besides a niche market, I'll be joining all of you in the future, and I have no doubt it will be *because* of you people's efforts. As for me, I'm just not willing to "blaze the trail" myself (unlike my brother Dave, I don't get paid to do it nor do I get all sorts of free OS/2 apps handed to me because I'm an OS/2 marketing guru)--I've got work to do. :) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 18 00:34:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26790 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 00:34:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01169; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:11:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:11:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01162; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:11:12 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA05624; Sat, 18 Jun 94 01:10:57 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 94 01:10:57 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406180510.AA05624@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com Subject: Re: There is no 32M for the 755 Status: OR any price available on the 32M card fro Kingston? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 18 00:38:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27070 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 00:38:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00963; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:08:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:08:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00956; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:08:04 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA05604; Sat, 18 Jun 94 01:07:55 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 94 01:07:55 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406180507.AA05604@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: games with sound Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR can we please avoid OS/2 advocacy stuff on this mailing list, it has very little to do with the TP750. If people want to post this, please post to comp.os.os2.advocacy where it belongs. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 18 01:55:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01717 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:55:01 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04946; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 02:31:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 02:31:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04939; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 02:31:40 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA00588 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:31:24 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406180631.AA00588@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: There is no 32M for the 755 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:31:23 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199406171054.NAA15130@aton.abo.fi> from "Antti Kilpinen" at Jun 17, 94 01:54:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > There seems to be a general misconception of how the 36M RAM is achieved. > The max memory on the 755 is 36 because you can add two types of memory to > the machine. You can add 4,8, and 16M IC-DRAM as for the 750. In addition to > this you may add either a 4 or a 16 M DIM (to the motherboard). So, 36M = 4M > + 16M + 16M and not 36M=4M + 32M. > > Sorry to dissappoint all you 750 owners (incl. me), Well, I have good news for you then. There is indeed a 32MB card. It's pricey, but it exists. Kingston makes one. I can show you the message we got from an IBM rep that tells why they originally said 20mb. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:44:43 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00012 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 09:44:41 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29979; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 10:20:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 10:20:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29944; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 10:20:00 -0400 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20734; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 09:14:00 -0500 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA41909; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 09:19:07 -0500 From: gbu@lochness.uhc.com (Gary Udstrand) Message-Id: <9406181419.AA41909@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: 50 vs. 75 Mhz To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 09:19:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Status: OR I am ordering a TP755 laptop. I have found 2 different setups that are available to me. One is the TP755C w/540meg HD and a 50Mhz processor, the other is the TP755Cs w/340meg HD and the 75Mhz processor. My question: is the 75Mhz that much faster than the 50 Mhz? I would prefer the larger hard drive and the active matrix screen if the speed difference is not that great. I also understand that the 50 can be upgraded to the 75, does anyone know the cost? TIA -- __ __ | | o | | Gary Udstrand | | \|/ | | AT&T: (612) 945-6523 Advanced Technology, IS&T | \(_)/ | Fax: (612) 945-6502 United HealthCare Corp \_________/ E-Mail: gbu@uhc.com "A sufficiently high level of technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:35:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22738 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 13:35:33 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09627; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 13:55:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 13:55:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09620; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 13:55:32 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA06075; Sat, 18 Jun 94 13:55:29 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 94 13:55:29 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406181755.AA06075@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: gbu@lochness.uhc.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 50 vs. 75 Mhz Status: OR I would get the TP755C with the 50MHz processor, then down the road you can upgrade to the 100MHz processor when they get to a more reasonable'price point. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 18 16:40:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16568 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 16:40:53 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18615; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 17:11:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 17:11:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18608; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 17:11:13 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA20777; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 14:11:10 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id OAA27236; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 14:11:04 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406182111.OAA27236@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 50 vs. 75 Mhz To: gbu@lochness.uhc.com (Gary Udstrand) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 14:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9406181419.AA41909@lochness.uhc.com> from "Gary Udstrand" at Jun 18, 94 09:19:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > I am ordering a TP755 laptop. I have found 2 different setups that > are available to me. One is the TP755C w/540meg HD and a 50Mhz processor, > the other is the TP755Cs w/340meg HD and the 75Mhz processor. > > My question: is the 75Mhz that much faster than the 50 Mhz? I would > prefer the larger hard drive and the active matrix screen if the speed > difference is not that great. I also understand that the 50 can be upgraded > to the 75, does anyone know the cost? I couldn't tell you exactly, but I *can* say this much: It won't be very cheap, given IBM's history. But at the same time, if you got the faster machine, upgrading to an active-matrix screen or a larger hard drive certainly wouldn't be cheap either (if even possible, in the case of the screen). I'll say this much: If I were you, I'd go for the 50Mhz (unless you have some *real* need for the faster processor), because the screen alone is probably worth it. Also, I don't know very many people that really *need* a 540MB hard drive--the 340 should do you just fine, unless you are trying to carry the entire world with you (you can also use Stacker--that's what I do, since I *am* trying to carry the entire world with me...) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Jun 19 17:00:39 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26508 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 17:00:36 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07542; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 22:39:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 22:39:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07535; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 22:39:51 -0400 Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (actually localhost) by brolga.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP (PP); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 12:39:39 +1000 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 12:39:35 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Murdoch Subject: Problem with netware and Thinkpad 750 Audio 1.10 ?? To: TP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hi All, I've come across a rather confusing problem with the Audio Features 1.1 setup. I have a 3c589 PCMCIA ethernet card installed in my TP 750. When I originally got the Thinkpad, I set up drivers to run the 3c589 using NETX, VLM's and Personal Netware. All this worked OK (it was just a bit messy). Having thought of a better way to handle all my different setups and having obtained the later versions of the Video, Audio and general features disks, along with the DOS 6.3 upgrade, I reinstalled the system >from scratch. This all went fine until I tried to use the 3c589 card. When I run the 3c589 startnet (NETX or VLM) and log in I cannot run windows - it comes back with the message PROGMAN.EXE causes a General Protection Fault in module IBMMME.DRV at 0005:0078 The strange thing is that I can be connected without it being a problem - it is only when I actually log in that it gives me the error. There doesn't appear to be any conflicts. There weren't any before I reinstalled. It's not even that easy to go back to the old setup. Has anyone experienced this problem ? Any solutions ? I heard there was a version 1.3 of the Audio Features, but couldn't find it on the IBM (Australia) BBS - Does it exist somewhere. Thanks in Advance Signed Desperate :) ant From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 19 17:12:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28278 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 17:12:48 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00194; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:41:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:41:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jenner.med.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00182; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:40:59 -0400 From: Received: from warren.med.harvard.edu by jenner.med.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15538; Sun, 19 Jun 94 14:54:47 -0400 Received: from ccMail by warren.med.harvard.edu id AA772063078 Sun, 19 Jun 94 14:57:58 EST Date: Sun, 19 Jun 94 14:57:58 EST Message-Id: <9405197720.AA772063078@warren.med.harvard.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Suggested Pricing on used TP-750C Status: OR What price are people getting for used tp750C notebooks these days? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 19 17:14:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28436 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 17:14:01 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01178; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:53:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:53:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01171; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:53:24 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (root@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA25401 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 12:53:16 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA06010 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 08:33:46 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406191533.IAA06010@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: IBM ThinkPad 755Cs, 170MB for Sale in L.A. Times! To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 08:33:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR NOTE: I am not selling this machine, but I saw it this morning in the L.A. Times Classified section and I figure there is probably a bunch of people on this list who would *love* to get this little baby--it looks like a hell of a deal. Heck--if it were only an Active-Matrix Screen, I would have bought it! So here goes: (Copied from the Ad in the Classified section of the L.A. Times:) "IBM ThinkPad 755Cs, 50Mhz, 170MB, in original box, never used. Paid $3985, sell for $2685 OBO. pp 310-288-3501 or 310-508-5458." Now folks--I have no idea who this guy is and I do not endorse it in any way. It just seemed like a *really* good deal and I thought there were a number of people on this list who would like a shot at it. Good luck--and if anyone calls this guy or snags this item, post it to the list and let us know! ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 19 17:14:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28520 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 17:14:42 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01274; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:54:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:54:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01244; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:54:17 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id XAA12877; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 23:17:32 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 23:17:32 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199406190617.XAA12877@netcom9.netcom.com> To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: There is no 32M for the 755 Status: OR The misconception is true but the same effect can be applied to the 750 you need to buy a doo-hickey thingy from IBM for $110 then you can get the DIM. I talked to IBM Direct about this exact subject just friday. Martin Smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 19 21:40:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10254 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 21:40:50 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23753; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 22:15:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 22:15:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23745; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 22:15:25 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA11494; Sun, 19 Jun 94 22:15:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 94 22:15:10 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406200215.AA11494@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, msmith@netcom.com Subject: Re: There is no 32M for the 755 Status: OR can we understand more about the doo-hickey thingy approach on the 750. one the $110 is spent, how much to the 16 meg "doo-hickey thingy memory modules AKA DIM's" cost, and what are they, and who makes them? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 19 23:06:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24054 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:06:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00886; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:33:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:33:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel.LCS.MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00865; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:33:37 -0400 Received: (from wilson@localhost) by rigel.LCS.MIT.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.6) id XAA02575; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:33:33 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:33:33 -0400 From: "Wilson J. Chan" Message-Id: <199406200333.XAA02575@rigel.LCS.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: CDPD and TV.... Reply-To: wilson@hing.lcs.mit.edu Address: 545 Technology Square, Room 626, Cambridge, MA 02139 Status: OR Office Phone: (617) 253-6028 Fax: (617) 253-7359 Home Phone: (617) 621-0232 Does anyone have any news on the CDPD and TV expansion modules? Are they available in the U.S. and how much do they cost? Is CDPD available in Boston or S.F. Bay Area? --wilson From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:09:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10126 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 20 Jun 1994 12:09:14 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22446; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:23:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:23:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22427; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:23:11 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 6685; Mon, 20 Jun 94 10:23:11 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 0223; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:23:11 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 20 Jun 94 10:23:10 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA22492; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:23:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:23:08 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9406201423.AA22492@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: success with 3c589!! Status: OR Well, I finally got my 3com card working!! I was having problems getting my PC-NFS software to talk to the card. It turned out that the software was too old of a version to be able to work. I switched to some newer IBM TCP/IP software which supports NDIS drivers. Interestingly, this software is not listed at all on the official 3com supported-software fax list. Although the IBM software doesn't specifically support the 3c589, it does support the 3c509 Etherlink III AT-bus card. I did the install for the 3c509, and then I manually installed the NDIS driver for the 3c589 (came on 3c589 floppy). This involved modifying config.sys and protman.ini to use the ELPC3 driver instead of the ELNK3 driver. I can now do a backup of my TP750 hard drive onto my unix workstation hard drive, just by doing a DOS xcopy. My Megahertz modem operation seems to be unaffected by having the 3com card also installed. I haven't tried to use them both in the same session, actually this is impossible to do: You can't use the Xjack with the Ethernet pigtail also installed, because they physically interfere with each other. I don't know what's up with 3com, but it seems that I never got billed for the 3c589 either!! --andy From shosmer@netcom.com Mon Jun 20 15:02:21 1994 Received: from netcom2.netcom.com by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05326 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:02:17 -0500 Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id NAA29813; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 13:02:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 13:02:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Hosmer Subject: Re: TP750, SCSI, and OS/2 To: Sean Chou Cc: Thinkpad List In-Reply-To: <199406170149.AA11705@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I have called Future Domain, and was told that there are currently no drivers for their PCMCIA to SCSI product. They "may" be working on them. But he could not confirm or deny it. Oh well for now. shosmer@netcom.com On Thu, 16 Jun 1994, Sean Chou wrote: > > I'll try not to rip on you OS/2 types, but sometimes I can't help > > it... > > Cheap, cheap.... > > > a PCMCIA to SCSI or parallel to SCSI solution--no driver support. > > Actually, there is parallel to SCSI support with the base package > for the Trantor cable. Timothy Sipples has said that Future Domain > has a PCMCIA SCSI card with OS/2 support. I haven't called them to > confirm this yet, but if anyone does, let me know. > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 20 16:55:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10188 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 20 Jun 1994 16:55:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17186; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:20:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:20:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17166; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:20:28 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (rama) id QQwvdk22356; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:09:37 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22979; Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:02:23 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA08919; Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:10:05 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05674; Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:08:26 PDT Date: Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:08:26 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9406201908.AA05674@opus.objy.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: More ATT KIT problems Status: OR Well, after weeks of waiting I finally received my replacement KIT modem from ATT Paradyne. They sent a later version that has the dual pigtail connectors for standard and cellular lines. EasyPlay under DOS and OS/2 recognize the modem first thing. Unfortunately I still can't access the modem. At first I suspected a PCMCIA problem since we recently had our system board replaced by IBM. I ruled this out after I got the modem to work using the ATT supplied DOS drivers. Wierd that it would only work in slot 1, but it was useable. This certainly isn't an optimal situation in my mind. I was happily using the old KIT under DOS/Windows and OS/2 with the IBM drivers and no intervention at all on my part. Basically plug and play. So either ATT has changed the modem to render it incompatible with my version of the IBM drivers or I really do have some sort of system board problem. Anyone have similar experiences with the current version of the KIT? --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:06:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24318 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 21 Jun 1994 07:06:27 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06378; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 07:22:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 07:22:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from werple.apana.org.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06371; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 07:22:49 -0400 Received: (from guardian@localhost) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.6) id VAA12555; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 21:22:41 +1000 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 21:20:48 +1000 (EST) From: Nick Allan Subject: serial ports on the thinkpad To: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hello everyone Can anyone tell me if there is another serial port on the thinkpad 750 anywhere. I remember reading something about a com2, something about the floppy drive. Also if there isn't, can anyone tell me the sort of money it costs for a pcmcia serial card. I need a com2. Thanks for any information in advance. Regards Nick Guardian@werple.apana.org.au From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:49:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05756 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 21 Jun 1994 08:49:18 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13873; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 09:08:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 09:08:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from VAXC.HOFSTRA.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13837; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 09:08:42 -0400 Received: from baskett.hofstra.edu by vaxc.hofstra.edu (PMDF V4.2-11 #3680) id <01HDSRD1S4009ZMOXX@vaxc.hofstra.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 09:08:11 EDT Received: by baskett.hofstra.edu (931110.SGI) id AA04223; Tue, 21 Jun 94 09:06:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 09:06:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Kendall Chenoweth Subject: Re: serial ports on the thinkpad In-Reply-To: To: Nick Allan Cc: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR correct me if i'm wrong, but you just need the com2 definition port (as opposed to the "real" com2 thing), then can't you use the "assign" dos command. I know there is a dos redirect command for lp and com ports, but I may have the "assign" command mixed up with the VMS environent, which I (unfortunately) also work in... Kendall Kendall Chenoweth, UNIX Coordinator, 516/463-6134, 925-0711 Academic Computing, Hofstra University, Hempstead, NY 11550 "Listen very carefully... I shall say this only once..." Michelle from the Resistance, 'Allo 'Allo From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 21 13:48:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02847 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:48:45 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08398; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:39:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:39:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chx400.switch.ch by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08384; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:39:08 -0400 X400-Received: by mta chx400.switch.ch in /PRMD=Switch/ADMD=Arcom/C=Ch/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 19:38:29 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 19:38:19 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 19:38:15 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 19:38:15 +0200 X400-Originator: solana@cui.unige.ch X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/;940621193815] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 527 Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Eduardo Solana Message-Id: <527*/S=solana/OU=cui/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> To: "(Bruce Reed)" Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9406201908.AA05674@opus.objy.com> Subject: Re: More ATT KIT problems Status: OR Hi all, >Well, after weeks of waiting I finally received my replacement >KIT modem from ATT Paradyne. They sent a later version that has >the dual pigtail connectors for standard and cellular lines. >EasyPlay under DOS and OS/2 recognize the modem first thing. >Unfortunately I still can't access the modem. > >At first I suspected a PCMCIA problem since we recently had our >system board replaced by IBM. I ruled this out after I got the >modem to work using the ATT supplied DOS drivers. Wierd that it >would only work in slot 1, but it was useable. > >This certainly isn't an optimal situation in my mind. I was >happily using the old KIT under DOS/Windows and OS/2 with the >IBM drivers and no intervention at all on my part. Basically >plug and play. So either ATT has changed the modem to render >it incompatible with my version of the IBM drivers or I really >do have some sort of system board problem. Anyone have similar >experiences with the current version of the KIT? > >--Bruce Actually, I'm experiencing the same problems with this later version of AT&T KIT modem. I was wondering if the drivers contained in the new utilities diskette (which seems to be v1.30) would fix this problem... Nevertheless, I managed to get the modem responding in both OS/2 and DOS with the EasyPlay v1.21 drivers. The (dirty) trick consists on executing the "config" program from the modem diskette with the adequate parameters (slot number,address,port) BEFORE entering your communication software. Obviously, under OS/2 you pass through a DOS window to do this ... Curiously , once you obtain the "Modem is configured" message from "config", the modem will respond normally (and from both slots) to any communication application, regardless if it is OS/2 or DOS, until you shutdown your system. And, I know, it's a weird behaviour but it works. My config : TP750C - 340M HD - 8M RAM, OS/2 2.11 & IBM DOS 6.31 and I'm also looking for good prices for 16Mb RAM cards (Europe or US)... Best ..., Eduardo. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Eduardo Solana University of Geneva eMail: Centre Universitaire d'Informatique X.400: /S=solana/OU=cui/O=unige 24, rue General Dufour /P=switch/A=arcom/C=ch CH-1211 Geneva 4 (Switzerland) Tel: (+41 22) 705 76 41 Fax: (+41 22) 320 29 27 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 21 17:59:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01286 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 21 Jun 1994 17:59:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05028; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 18:28:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 18:28:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05016; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 18:27:58 -0400 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17296; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 17:22:00 -0500 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA158322; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 17:27:05 -0500 From: rol@lochness.uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) Message-Id: <9406212227.AA158322@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: Wanted OS/2 on Thinkpad 750 Expert in Minn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 17:27:05 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Status: OR We're looking for a OS/2 expert in the Minnesota Twin Cities Metro Region to help us port our OS/2 setup from a desktop environment to a Thinkpad 750C environment -- we're encountering Trap 0008 or either Trap 000D/E errors (depending whether we use 2.11 or 2.10 OS/2) on the Thinkpad but not the three desktops that we've been able to successfully port to--two IBM PS/2 computers and one Compaq EISA Deskpro. The software on the machines is all IBM except for the driver for the wireless network adaptor (either NCR Wavelan or Soletek Airlan): IBM OS/2 and IBM TCPIP 2.0 (with or without latest CSD corrections). Let me tell you about our exciting project: we are working on the future of physician charting -- using Pen-Based Computers running MSDOS/Windows with a PCMCIA Wireless Lan network card (for each Doctor in a clinic, say) to be routed to a OS/2 receiver station (one per clinic) that could be (via OS/2 multi-tasking) doing the following functions: * Communicating with the Pen Computers via Broad Band Spectrum networking (wireless) * Communicating with the outside computing world, via TCP/IP to our corporate computers and others on the Internet (UHC has a class B Internet address)--most likely via 28.8 modems and using the TCP/IP SLIP protocol. * Communicating with hard-wired networked locally-based computers via hard-wired LANs--typically Token Ring. * Handling/Servicing CD-ROM access-requests from those in the clinic--there could be a CD-ROM tower connected to the OS/2 server--this might mean the users are communicating to the OS/2 computer via MSLANMAN software or via NFS--this part of the project is not yet done. * Handling print functions by users--this part of the project is not yet done. The expert should be adept at the following components: * OS/2 either version 2.1 or 2.11. * OS/2 TCP/IP 2.0 by IBM. * Thinkpad 750C with docking station, CD-ROM & OS/2 on it. * Troubleshooting Trap 0008 or either Trap 000D/E Errors. * Troubleshooting Hardware Interrupt conflicts. * (Optional) OS/2 IBM Lan Manager software and maybe IBM OS/2 Lan Distance Remote software, OS/2 IBM NFS software, or OS/2 Netware Redirector. We do have a diagnostic utility available---Checkit Pro Deluxe for MS-DOS. Interested OS/2 experts, please reply by email or fax to: Internet ID: rol@uhc.com or 612-945-6502 (fax). Roleigh Martin, Knowledge Engineer, Mail Stop MN06-6130 United HealthCare Corp., 9705 Data Park Drive, Minnetonka MN 55343 612-945-6529 (voice and voicemail). Notice date: 6-21-94 -- | Roleigh Martin, Rt. MN06-6130 Opinions are mine not UHC | | UHC, Advanced Technology AT&T/vmail: (612) 945-6529 | | 9705 Data Park Drive FAX: (612) 945-6502 | | Minnetonka, MN 55343 Email: rol@lochness.uhc.com | | ** B'days are good for health ** | | Statistics show that people with most b'days live the longest | | When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 23 15:48:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01960 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 23 Jun 1994 15:48:44 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09506; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:11:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:11:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09499; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:11:33 -0400 Received: from biophysics.bio.rpi.edu (biophysics.bio.rpi.edu [128.113.8.42]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id QAA20705 for <@rpi.edu:TP750@CS.UTK.EDU>; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:11:29 -0400 Received: by biophysics.bio.rpi.edu (920330.SGI/921111.SGI.AUTO) for @rpi.edu:TP750@CS.UTK.EDU id AA12957; Thu, 23 Jun 94 16:13:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 94 16:13:05 -0400 From: arturo@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu (Arturo J. Morales) Message-Id: <9406232013.AA12957@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Info Status: OR Hi! I should be getting my TP 750Cs in about two weeks (8 megs RAM 170 HD). I had a couple of questions about extras that i'm considering getting: 1- Are 8 megs of RAM god enough for OS/2 2.1? or should i just wait for the new performance version? 2- Can I use the Megahertz XJACK modem and an ETHERNET PCMCIA card at once? (That is can i put the jack in place with the ethernet cable attached) 3- How good are the EPP CDROMS? can one use the onboard sound and at the same time access the CDROM? 4- I heard about an option to increase the total RAM to 36 (or 32) megs, is that assuming one has the 16 meg icdram card in place or can i add memory in both ports (i don't want to lose the money i spent on the 4 meg card if i can expand the memory some other way :) 5- Is the 750Cs processor upgradeable? Thanks in advance... most of these questions are not easy to get answered from the dealers... (PS sorry about the grammar this remote login thing is really annoying) --Art ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Arturo J. Morales | arturo@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu Center For Biophysics and Biochemistry | morala2@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute | Troy, NY ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't Blame Me, I'm Just Confused!!!" From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Jun 24 01:14:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11745 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 01:14:04 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09621; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 00:39:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 00:39:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09614; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 00:39:24 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA14236; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 21:39:15 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id VAA13794; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 21:38:55 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406240438.VAA13794@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Info To: arturo@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu (Arturo J. Morales) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 21:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <9406232013.AA12957@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu> from "Arturo J. Morales" at Jun 23, 94 04:13:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I should be getting my TP 750Cs in about two weeks (8 megs RAM 170 HD). > > I had a couple of questions about extras that i'm considering getting: > > 1- Are 8 megs of RAM god enough for OS/2 2.1? or should i just wait for > the new performance version? I don't know about the new performance version, but until its released, live in the real world (that is, with the OS/2 that is available now). 8 MB? I would highly suggest you send back the 4MB module and buy a 3rd party module--what you paid for it will get you twice the memory elsewhere. 8 MB RAM is barely adequate for OS/2--but you won't be happy with it. Better to figure on an 8 MB card and work with 12MB minimum, or as most of the OS/2 types here have chosen to do--get a 16MB card. > 2- Can I use the Megahertz XJACK modem and an ETHERNET PCMCIA card at once? > (That is can i put the jack in place with the ethernet cable attached) Reports have more or less said "no". > 3- How good are the EPP CDROMS? can one use the onboard sound and at the > same time access the CDROM? Can't help your here--I have no clue. > 4- I heard about an option to increase the total RAM to 36 (or 32) megs, > is that assuming one has the 16 meg icdram card in place or can i add > memory in both ports (i don't want to lose the money i spent on the > 4 meg card if i can expand the memory some other way :) There is some doohicky available for $100 to $150 from IBM which enables this to be done, or maybe the 32MB module soon available from Kingston will do it. > 5- Is the 750Cs processor upgradeable? No. If that's what you're interested in, you should buy the 755 series. In fact, I'm surprised that anyone buying a new 750-series ThinkPad *didn't* buy the 755! > Thanks in advance... most of these questions are not easy to > get answered from the dealers... We try... :) > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Arturo J. Morales | arturo@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu > Center For Biophysics and Biochemistry | morala2@rpi.edu > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute | Troy, NY > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RPI! I spent 2 months in Troy/Cohoes and also 3 months in Schenectady. I kinda like the Tri-City area. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:15:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11080 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 07:15:49 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11918; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 07:29:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 07:29:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11911; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 07:29:54 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA06492; Fri, 24 Jun 94 07:29:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 94 07:29:52 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406241129.AA06492@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: arturo@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: Info Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR I asked this before, but no answer ... if you get the doohicky from IBM to allow two 16MB thingys to be installed, what exactly are the 16MB thingys, how much do they cost, and where can you get them? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:14:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08070 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 10:14:23 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25485; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 10:21:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 10:21:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25473; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 10:21:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199406241421.KAA25473@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 94 10:19:55 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: Re: Info To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR >I asked this before, but no answer ... >if you get the doohicky from IBM to allow two 16MB thingys to be installed, >what exactly are the 16MB thingys, how much do they cost, and where can you >get them? The following is part of IBM announcements for ThinkPad755C/Cs. Hope these help. ......< stuff cut >........................... New Options and Accessories Part 750C/ 755C/ Number Description 750 Cs/Ce 755Cs 84G2148 Wall Mount Adapter (40W) Y Y Y 84G2150 540 MB Hard Disk Drive - AT Y Y Y 84G2151 Memory Module Adapter N N Y 84G2152 4MB Memory Module N N Y 84G2153 16MB Memory Module N N Y 84G2154 75MHz Processor Upgrade Kit N N Y 2397542 75MHz Processor Upgrade N N Y 66G7870 Microphone Kit Y Y Y 84G2524 Space Saver Keyboard (Black) Y Y Y 84G2533 ThinkPad Numeric Keypad (Black) Y Y Y 66G0108 ThinkPad 2.88MB Diskette Drive N N Y Existing Options and Accessories Part 750/755 Number Description Family 360 360Cs 49G2165 AC Adapter (40W) Y Y Y 66G2846 750 NiMH Battery Y Y Y 66G2843 750 Quick Charger Y Y Y 66G2847 170 MB Hard Disk Drive - AT Y Y Y 66G2849 340 MB Hard Disk Drive - AT Y Y Y 66G5109 16MB IC DRAM Y Y Y 66G3510 Port Replicator Model I Y Y Y 66G3520 Port Replicator Model II Y Y Y 66G3541 AC Adapter (50W) Y Y Y 66G3689 750 TV Tuner Pack (4) N N 71G2560 CDPD Communications Module (5) Y Y 66G3618 FDD External Attachment Kit Y Y Y 66G3686 Battery Safety Cover Y Y Y 66G3685 Keyguard Y Y Y 66G3684 Security Base Y Y Y 66G3687 Untethered Stylus (6) N N 53G9720 ThinkPad Dock I Y Y Y 66G3539 Display Stand Y Y Y 66G3536 Internal CD-ROM Kit Y Y Y 66G3535 ThinkPad Hard Disk Drive Installation Kit Y Y Y 66G3537 Analog-to-Digital Video Adapter (4) N N 66G3538 Internal SCSI Device Kit Y Y Y 66G3540 Audio Cable Y Y Y 66G3585 Carrying Case (Large - Dock I) Y Y Y 66G3341 AC Adapter 50W (See note below) Y Y Y 49G2167 Car Lighter Adapter Y Y Y 07G1419 2MB IC DRAM Y Y Y 07G1420 4MB IC DRAM Y Y Y 07G1421 8MB IC DRAM Y Y Y 07G0033 Miniature Mouse Y Y Y 07G0032 Numeric Keypad Y Y Y 54G0441 Keyboard/Mouse connect Y Y Y 59G7970 Universal Carrying Case Y Y Y 0933315 3270 Emulation (PCMCIA) Y Y Y 0933462 Token-Ring 16/4 (PCMCIA) Y Y Y 0933290 Ethernet 10 base t (PCMCIA) Y Y Y 0933280 Ethernet 10 base 2 (PCMCIA) Y Y Y 70G7344 5MB Solid State File Y Y Y 70G7345 10MB Solid State File Y Y Y 70G7346 15MB Solid State File Y Y Y 42G2581 Data/Fax Modem (PCMCIA) Y Y Y 42G2582 14.4 Data/Fax Modem (PCMCIA) Y Y Y 84G5689 4MB IC DRAM Card (non-parity) Y (7) Y Y 84G5692 8MB IC DRAM Card (non-parity) Y (7) Y Y 84G5695 16MB IC DRAM Card (non-parity) Y (7) Y Y 87G9029 IBM PCMCIA Audio Adapter Y (8) Y Y Note: The 50W AC adapter is required when the system is fully configured with Port Replicator Model I, PCMCIA cards and a wireless communication optional feature. (4) Supported on the 750C/755C TFT models only. (5) Not supported on the 750 PEN models. (6) For PEN models only. (7) Non-parity memory. The 750/755 family must have the setting changed in setup to non-parity memory. (8) Refer to the Limitations section. ......< stuff cut >........................... CHARGES Optional Features for 755C/755Cs Feature Part Purchase Description Number Number Price IBM ThinkPad Travel (Wall Mount) AC Adapter 0610 84G2148 $ 85 540MB Hard Disk-AT(15) 0607 84G2150 1,399 810MB Hard Disk-AT 2633 84G8250 1,985 Memory Module Adapter 1858 84G2151 105 4MB Memory Module 1860 84G2152 345 16MB Memory Module 1861 84G2153 1,745 75MHz Processor Kit(16) 1862 84G2154 N/A 75MHz Processor Kit(17) None 2397542 1,075 Microphone Kit 2426 66G7870 49 Space Saver Keyboard(18) 2298 84G2524 155 Numeric Keypad-Black 2299 84G2533 55 2.88MB Diskette Drive 2588 66G0108 165 (15) IBM ThinkPad 540MB Hard Disk can be used in the 755C/755Cs/750/ 750C/750Cs/750P and 750Ce systems (16) Upgrade Kit only -- Requires installation by IBM-trained service personnel. Installation charges may apply. (17) ThinkPad EasyServ only -- installation included. (U.S. only) Available through IBM PC Direct only. Call 800-IBM-2YOU (426-2968) to order. (18) Refer to Hardware Announcement 193-346, for technical details. This keyboard is the same except for the color. ......< stuff cut >........................... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:11:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28807 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:11:46 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09772; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:35:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:35:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09713; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:35:04 -0400 Subject: Questions from a new 360Cs owner To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:34:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Tyhurst X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9406241334.aa16778@dogmead.excelsior.com> Status: OR Hi all, I've recently acquired a Thinkpad 360Cs. For those who don't know, the 360 series is sort of an "economy" version of the 750 line. The 360s use the same case design (with removable devices) and share many peripherals with the 750 line. The main differences are the processor (486SX-33 SL), no built-in audio, no parity memory, and no "smart" battery on the 360s. Hm, there's probably another one or two minor things I've forgotten. Hopefully this is close enough to the spirit of the 750 series to allow questions in this forum! At any rate, my 360Cs is still minimally configured, with only 4 megs/170 meg disk. Accordingly, I'm still running DOS/Windows, but after upgrading, I hope to experiment with OS/2, SCO Unix or (maybe?) NeXTStep. I do have a 3COM 3C589 PCMCIA Ethernet card for the unit, which seems to work just fine (I'm using Beame and Whiteside's TCP/IP and NFS software, maybe Windows for Workgroups soon). Some general questions: 1 - Is there a source for the removable hard disk case? Will IBM sell them without a disk inside? Or do I have to buy IBM disks for the unit? 2 - Does anybody know if third party memory is available for the 360 yet? I understand that 750 memory will work, but if I don't need the parity bits... 3 - Battery life: what's the accepted wisdom for care of the nickel hydride battery? Is it better to fully discharge the battery before recharging it, or is better to keep it "topped up"? 4 - Has anybody tried NeXTStep on a Thinkpad? Many thanks for any light folks might shed on these questions. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 14:35:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21918 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 14:35:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16055; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:05:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:05:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16037; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:05:12 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id MAA06858; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 12:05:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 12:05:11 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199406241905.MAA06858@netcom5.netcom.com> To: arturo@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu, dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: Info Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR The 16 Megs are DIM chips ( whatever they are. ) I seem to remeber that you could keep your existing 16Meg card if you had one and add a 16Meg DIM ( VERY VERY EXPENSIVE ) They can be bought from IBM PC Direct . 1-800-IBM-2-YOU. Sorry about the lack of response last time but I am in the middle of drop dead deliverables for a new client. MArtin P. smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 15:16:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03053 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:16:37 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18343; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:38:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:38:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18298; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:38:21 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA09286; Fri, 24 Jun 94 15:38:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 94 15:38:19 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406241938.AA09286@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: arturo@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu, dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU, msmith@netcom.com, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: Info Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR the DIM chips cost about $1750 from IBM for 16 meg!!!! anyone know if there are third party sources? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 16:21:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21080 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 16:21:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22794; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 16:43:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 16:43:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22760; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 16:43:31 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA01146; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:40:48 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:43:39 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <49420.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tim@excelsior.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Questions from a new 360Cs owner Status: OR In message Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:34:44 -0400 (EDT), Tim Tyhurst writes: > 1 - Is there a source for the removable hard disk case? Will IBM sell them > without a disk inside? Or do I have to buy IBM disks for the unit? NO. NO. Yes. I've asked tech support, product information, IBM parts numbers, and a couple other IBM insiders. Finally I got an answer from TP750 development - IBM does not sell the case by itself to discourage people from using 3rd party hard drives. If a 3rd party hard drive draws too much current and blows the fuse on your TP, your 3 year warranty is VOID. Personally I'd rather they let me decide if I want to risk it or not. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 18:23:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15033 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 18:23:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01073; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 18:56:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 18:56:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01060; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 18:56:30 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA25598; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:30:41 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA05950; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:30:38 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406242230.PAA05950@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Questions from a new 360Cs owner To: tim@excelsior.com (Tim Tyhurst) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9406241334.aa16778@dogmead.excelsior.com> from "Tim Tyhurst" at Jun 24, 94 01:34:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > 1 - Is there a source for the removable hard disk case? Will IBM sell them > without a disk inside? Or do I have to buy IBM disks for the unit? > Nope--many have tried, none have succeeded. Although in the ThinkPad FAQ put together by Sean Chou, there is a mention of somebody having a 200- something MB Maxtor drive successfully installed in their ThinkPad 750 series--but he bought it used that way and doesn't know how it was done! I am very much surprised that some company out there hasn't duplicated the 750-series hard drives and casing and marketed them. After all, we can by 3rd party memory, can't we? Why not 3rd party drives? Or 3rd party batteries? I am quite annoyed by these facts... > 2 - Does anybody know if third party memory is available for the 360 yet? I > understand that 750 memory will work, but if I don't need the parity > bits... I don't know that the cost is appreciably different. But yeah--there is plenty of 3rd party memory for the 700 series. > 3 - Battery life: what's the accepted wisdom for care of the nickel hydride > battery? Is it better to fully discharge the battery before recharging > it, or is better to keep it "topped up"? For the most part, NiMH batteries are mostly like NiCD's. Hydrides just happen to last about twice as long as Ni-Cads (per volume unit in size). Differences? Well...for one thing, Hydride batteries don't hold their charge for as long (while sitting unused) as do NiCads. In fact, they can lose 10 to 20% of their charge overnight and be just plain discharged completely in a matter of a few days. In this sense, NiCads fare much better. But like NiCads, Hydrides can also suffer from the same kind of "memory effect". Luckily, its just not quite as bad--the Hydride is not quite as susceptible to the memory effect and it is easier to "re-train" it *out* of the memory effect than a NiCad. So the answer to your question is Yes--it is generally better to do as complete a discharge as you can on your Hydride battery, but you don't have to be completely anal about it or worry about it constantly the way one might with a NiCad. I make it a point to use the "fuel" program (I don't know if your 360 has this or not) to do a discharge cycle of the battery once per month or once every couple of weeks, depending on usage. That's plenty. It requires a little more if you are breaking in a new battery or resurrecting one that has not been in use for a while (I alternate between 2 batteries and since I have not had to use battery time very often lately, I usually use one battery all month, then completely discharge it for storage and switch to another battery--which requires a couple of charge cycles to figure out where it stands again.). > 4 - Has anybody tried NeXTStep on a Thinkpad? I didn't even know the NeXT OS was available to run on Intel chips! ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 18:35:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16402 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 18:35:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01610; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 19:11:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 19:11:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01600; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 19:11:20 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10988; Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:11:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:11:15 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406242311.AA10988@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tim@excelsior.com, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: Questions from a new 360Cs owner Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR "I didn't even know the NeXT OS was available to run on Intel chips!" This is in fact essentially the only target for NeXT OS these days, now that the NeXT machines are memory! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 21:46:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05834 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 21:46:16 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12488; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 22:22:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 22:22:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12481; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 22:22:21 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA04269; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 19:22:19 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id TAA20907; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 19:22:17 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406250222.TAA20907@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: NeXT To: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 19:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9406242311.AA10988@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Jun 24, 94 07:11:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > "I didn't even know the NeXT OS was available to run on Intel chips!" > > This is in fact essentially the only target for NeXT OS these days, now that > the NeXT machines are memory! Hmph! Too bad--I liked the idea of display PostScript... ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 25 03:10:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28592 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 25 Jun 1994 03:10:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00697; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 03:45:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 03:45:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nef.ens.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00678; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 03:45:24 -0400 From: Received: from anis.ens.fr by nef.ens.fr (5.65c8/ULM-1.0) Id AA18694 ; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 09:44:40 +0200 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 94 09:44:39 +0200 Message-Id: <9406250744.AA22941@anis.ens.fr> To: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: NeXT Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR NeXT machines are no longer there, only if you think of NeXT as the old black boxes, like mine. They are, otherwise, pretty well there on PC's, HP and soon on Sparc and DEC alpha (the old enemies of NeXT turned out to be its best friends: maybe they started to worry about the possibility that vaporware like Cairo, Taligent etc could not be too late to market to be viable, while NEXTSTEP has reached its release 3.2 and hase a large installed basis and enthusiastic users) You have a Canon machine (Pentium 90 double processor) built in the old NeXT factory, and you have NeXT portables also: NSP sells them and I own one. You have display postscript on your PC, even portable, and now an 8-bit color driver for portables after NextExpo. I am pretty happy with my portable, but NSP is designing a new one, with plenty of features to be a real workstation on the road (see them at nsp@world.std.com). And, ... no... apparently NEXTSTEP will not run on a thinkpad, since the TP is really built to be an IBM proprietary DOS/Windows or OS/2 or SCO machine, not an open one, so you need IBM support to have an OS running on it... --Roberto From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 25 05:34:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17532 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 25 Jun 1994 05:34:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14013; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 06:12:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 06:12:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc7.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14006; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 06:12:42 -0400 From: Message-Id: <9406251012.AA16886@husc7.harvard.edu> Subject: dock II available To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 06:12:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Dock II available for TP 360/750/755 series... 2 PCMCIA slots 2 ISA slots 2 bays for either IDE or SCSI drives SCSI port internal stereo speakers $720 retail... have fun P.S. available NOW... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 25 10:33:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28796 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 25 Jun 1994 10:33:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29491; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 11:11:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 11:11:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29484; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 11:11:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199406251511.LAA29484@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 94 11:06:18 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: Dock I & II To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Could someone summerize the difference between Dock I and II ? Thanx! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 25 19:39:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29716 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 25 Jun 1994 19:39:48 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27543; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 20:15:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 20:15:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ids.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27530; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 20:15:04 -0400 From: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 20:14:46 -0400 (EDT) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <940625201446.a733@ids.net> Status: OR Anyone know if the screen on the Thinkpad 755Cs is upgradable to the 10.3" TFT screen? Also, is it true that the sound chip on the TP 755Cs is more soundblaster compatible then on the 750's? Sorry about the lack of Subject, I messed up. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 26 16:32:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21723 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 26 Jun 1994 16:32:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08949; Sun, 26 Jun 1994 17:08:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 26 Jun 1994 17:08:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08942; Sun, 26 Jun 1994 17:08:52 -0400 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA17383; Sun, 26 Jun 94 14:08:27 PDT Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10805; Sun, 26 Jun 94 14:08:39 PDT Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02366; Sun, 26 Jun 1994 14:08:05 +0800 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 14:08:05 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9406262108.AA02366@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Info In-Reply-To: <199406240438.VAA13794@aludra.usc.edu> References: <9406232013.AA12957@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu> <199406240438.VAA13794@aludra.usc.edu> Status: OR > Can I use the Megahertz XJACK modem and an ETHERNET PCMCIA card at once? You can use both if you remove the pcmcia slot cover, so the cards have more play in them. I'll leave it to you to decide if it is worth doing, given that you could wreck your cards. If you need to use both together for extended periods of time, I'd suggest you use a modem card other than the XJack. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 27 02:51:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04559 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 02:51:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14564; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 03:27:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 03:27:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14557; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 03:27:06 -0400 Received: from localhost by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id AA24027 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 17:26:51 +1000 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 17:26:43 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: TP360 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9406262108.AA02366@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I apologise for sending this to the 750 list but I imagine this is where the most expertise is. My girlfriend has a 750 with which she is very pleased, and I am looking to buy a laptop. I am considering two currently: the Thinkpad 360 and Toshiba 1910. I'd just likke to know a few of the technical specs of the 360. I'm looking at an SL33, Monochrome, 200MB HDD, 8MB Ram. (a) can the processor on the 360 be upgraded (ie. not hardwired) (b) what is the video resolution on the external monitor is it 1MB video ram? (c) will the UART on the serial port supportreliable 14.400 file transfers? (d) are the screen, disk and memory user upgradeable? (e) are the power management / power monitoring features the same? (f) is the case / keyboard / disk etc. identical between 750/360 models? Thanks, and if there is a relevant newsgroup (other than comp.sys.laptops) please let me know. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 27 16:31:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27134 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 16:31:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23671; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 16:54:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 16:54:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23660; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 16:54:22 -0400 Subject: Re: TP360 To: Rohan Davidson Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 16:53:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Tyhurst Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Rohan Davidson" at Jun 27, 94 05:26:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9406271654.aa00728@dogmead.excelsior.com> Status: OR > My girlfriend has a 750 with which she is very pleased, and I am looking > to buy a laptop. I am considering two currently: the Thinkpad 360 and > Toshiba 1910. I'd just likke to know a few of the technical specs of the > 360. > > I'm looking at an SL33, Monochrome, 200MB HDD, 8MB Ram. I've only seen the 360 offered with a 170MB HDD. > (a) can the processor on the 360 be upgraded (ie. not hardwired) No. It's an SL enhanced 486SX-33. No hardware floating point :-(. > (b) what is the video resolution on the external monitor > is it 1MB video ram? 1024x768x256; yes, 1MB video RAM. Uses the WD90C24 chipset, I think. > (c) will the UART on the serial port supportreliable 14.400 file transfers? Apparently the serial port UART is a 16550 (or compatible). I haven't tried file transfers. > (d) are the screen, disk and memory user upgradeable? I don't think the screen is. Both the disk and disk and memory are, although from what I can tell you'll have to buy an IBM disk drive. > (e) are the power management / power monitoring features the same? The 360 doesn't have a "smart" battery, which means you only get rough estimates on remaining battery life. The fueldos program seems to provide four levels of power: 100%, 80-20% remaining, 10% or critically low. If you use a 750 style battery I think you get better information. Other than that, I believe the power features are the same. > (f) is the case / keyboard / disk etc. identical between 750/360 models? As far as I can tell, yes. Certainly the disk drives are interchangeable, and the 360 has the same flipup keyboard. The 360 can use many of the same peripherals (like docking bays and port replicators) as the 750 series. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 27 23:21:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12919 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:21:48 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18535; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:46:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:46:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18520; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:46:41 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA07162 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:46:24 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406280346.AA07162@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: 360's and 755's To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:46:22 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I presume that there will be more and more talk of the 360's and 755's on this list. I, for one, welcome it since they will be sharing many of the same problems that we 750 owners have found. However, I don't have one so I can't expand the FAQ to cover them so any volunteers to help out with 360 and 755 stuff? Also, another reason to welcome the 360 and 755 owners is for the numbers. With an expanded Thinkpad list, we could start off an alt.thinkpad newsgroup and perhaps even seriously discuss a comp newsgroup again (our numbers were still waay too small last time). Any comments? -Sean Chou From cs322612@mailbox.uq.oz.au Mon Jun 27 23:29:47 1994 Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14230 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:29:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id AA04777 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 28 Jun 1994 14:29:58 +1000 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 14:29:50 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: Re: TP360 To: Sean Chou In-Reply-To: <199406280324.AA03608@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Thanks for the info on the TP360. I appreciate your time -Rohan From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 27 23:21:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12919 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:21:48 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18535; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:46:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:46:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18520; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:46:41 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA07162 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:46:24 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406280346.AA07162@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: 360's and 755's To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:46:22 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I presume that there will be more and more talk of the 360's and 755's on this list. I, for one, welcome it since they will be sharing many of the same problems that we 750 owners have found. However, I don't have one so I can't expand the FAQ to cover them so any volunteers to help out with 360 and 755 stuff? Also, another reason to welcome the 360 and 755 owners is for the numbers. With an expanded Thinkpad list, we could start off an alt.thinkpad newsgroup and perhaps even seriously discuss a comp newsgroup again (our numbers were still waay too small last time). Any comments? -Sean Chou From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 28 08:41:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02114 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 28 Jun 1994 08:41:16 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23684; Tue, 28 Jun 1994 09:08:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Jun 1994 09:08:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ids.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23677; Tue, 28 Jun 1994 09:08:34 -0400 From: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 9:08:12 -0400 (EDT) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <940628090812.128a3@ids.net> Subject: Batteries Status: OR I'm on the verge of buying a 755Cs (I change my mind daily) and I have another question. As far as I have been told the difference between the batteries on the TP 755 and the 360 is that the 755's are "smart" and can tell more precisely what the status of the battery is. My question is if I can forgo being able to tell when the battery dies and use the cheaper "stupid" batteries in the 755. Jeff From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 30 15:56:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15816 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 30 Jun 1994 15:56:24 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17186; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 12:17:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 12:16:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17173; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 12:16:53 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA11296 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 09:16:40 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id JAA29718 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 09:16:38 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406301616.JAA29718@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Serial port & Modems (External) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 09:16:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Is there anyone on this list who uses the external serial port and connects a v.32bis modem to it? I realize lots of you have PCMCIA modems, but I'm curious as to any who just have a plain 'ol external. I recently got a new USR Courier "V.Everything" (28.8K) modem for my desktop (where most all of my modeming is done) and since I have a "spare" modem in the form of a Supra V.32bis FaxModem, I decided to try running it from my ThinkPad. I runs fine when I lock it down at about 9600 baud, but at 14.4K Baud, I have some problems. Namely, it seems to scramble an occasional character when I'm in this EMACS editor, but more seriously, prevents any meaningful file transfer at 14.4K baud (though 9600 works okay). It produces a number of CRC errors. I am using hardware flow control locked at 19200 in both Windows and in Procomm Plus for Win (which is the same as I use on my desktop--except that on the desktop I lock them at 57600). I presume that the ThinkPad's external serial port does *noot* have a 16550 UART which might be the problem. Is there any way around this? Would I have to get software serial port drivers (like turbocomm) or a PCMCIA modem to communicate at 14.4K baud or higher? Suggestions please? ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 30 17:02:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05136 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:02:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04289; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:30:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:30:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.ge.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04273; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:30:42 -0400 From: Received: from [3.29.7.8] by ns.ge.com (5.65/GE Gateway 1.23) with SMTP id AA16138; Thu, 30 Jun 94 17:23:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 17:23:12 -0400 Message-Id: <9406302123.AA16138@ns.ge.com> Apparently-To: Status: OR >From andy Thu Jun 30 17:30:24 EDT 1994 remote from spencer.salem.ge.com Received: from spencer.salem.ge.com by salem.salem.ge.com; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:29 EDT Received: by spencer.salem.ge.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.2) id ; Thu, 30 Jun 94 17:30 EST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 17:30:24 EDT From: andy@spencer.salem.ge.com (Andy Spencer) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Serial port & Modems (External) In-Reply-To: Message from owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU of 30-Jun-94 X-Mailer: GE Openmail [version L1.0.4] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1788 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >From: Randal Whittle > > Is there anyone on this list who uses the external serial port >and connects a v.32bis modem to it? I realize lots of you have PCMCIA >modems, but I'm curious as to any who just have a plain 'ol external. [...] > I am using hardware flow control locked at 19200 in both Windows >and in Procomm Plus for Win (which is the same as I use on my desktop--except >that on the desktop I lock them at 57600). I presume that the ThinkPad's >external serial port does *noot* have a 16550 UART which might be the >problem. ^^^^^^^^^^ BINGO. it's got a 16450. We've seen the same problem in UNIX, it just doesn't seem to work worth a hoot above 9600. > Is there any way around this? Would I have to get software >serial port drivers (like turbocomm) or a PCMCIA modem to communicate at >14.4K baud or higher? We've been using a real-time UNIX which usually has no problem keeping up with a USR Courier w/ v.32, but we've had to give up on the 750's COM1 port. Even a direct SL/IP line is only good at 9600. 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