From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 3 12:10:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28610 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 May 1994 12:10:27 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA20898; Tue, 3 May 1994 12:33:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 May 1994 12:33:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hk.super.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA20885; Tue, 3 May 1994 12:33:18 -0400 Received: by hk.super.net id AA08818 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 4 May 1994 00:18:34 +0800 Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 00:18:34 +0800 From: "Mr. Tony K Ng" Message-Id: <199405031618.AA08818@hk.super.net> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi there, A friend of mine is coming from US to Hong Kong and will bring me the updated utilities diskettes from IBM BBS. So, I would like to know what is the most recent versions of the diskettes. The following is what I know. Please updated it. Also could you please give me the filenames and paths? Audio 1.10 System 1.04 Utility 1.20 Video 1.12 Thanks a lot for your help! -Tony From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue May 3 13:50:43 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16582 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 May 1994 13:50:33 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA25141; Tue, 3 May 1994 13:46:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 May 1994 13:46:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from oz.geology.washington.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA25131; Tue, 3 May 1994 13:46:48 -0400 Received: by oz.geology.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA20521; Tue, 3 May 94 10:34:01 PDT Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 10:13:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor C. Kress" Subject: 3com ethernet saga To: Thinkpad Forum Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I recently purchased a 3com combo 10bt-10b2 card, and it seems to be working fine with Easy Play. I have version 3.5 of the 3com drivers and v.1.01 of Easyplay. EasyPlay recognized the ethernet card right away when the ipx etc. drivers were not loaded, including hot-plugging. EasyPlay locked the computer quite effectively (even ctrl-alt-del was disabled) when the drivers were loaded. In the CS_HLPR directory of the 3com disk there are 2 files. One is a readme file which describes this problem. Apparently, the 3com uses an enabler-style driver which isn't good at communicating with card-services drivers. When card services are requested, the 3com drivers are automaticly turned off, locking your computer big time. They do provide a fix. Also in the CS_HLPR directory is a file called HELP_589.DOS. By loading this file onto your hard disk, and loading in in your CONFIG.SYS after the AUTODRV.INI, all conflicts are reconciled. I can now use the 3com card and EasyPlay with no problems. I assume that users of real operating systems don't have to bother with all of this whoii. Good Luck -Victor Kress From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 3 14:11:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26403 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 May 1994 14:11:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA00517; Tue, 3 May 1994 14:42:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 May 1994 14:42:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from erb1.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA00510; Tue, 3 May 1994 14:42:16 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu by erb1.engr.wisc.edu (4.1/31) id AA23478; Tue, 3 May 94 13:42:12 CDT Date: Tue, 3 May 94 13:42:12 CDT Message-Id: <9405031842.AA23478@erb1.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: 3COM PCMCIA & Thinkpad X-Mailer: Status: OR Well, I just got my 3com pcmcia card yesterday. There is good news and bad news. Here's the scoop: THE GOOD NEWS: The 3com card does not support being dynamically configured by easyplay. But it can work with Easyplay with a "static" configuration. There is no 3com "enabler" in the traditional sense. Instead, they have a 3com configure program which you can use to tell the card which interrupt, I/O, etc, to use. Then these values get stored on the card somehow (NVRAM?). So, I used this configure program to set some reasonable values. Then I edited my autodrv.ini file's ETHER section so that the only configuratuion ezplay had to "try" for an ethernet card was the same configuration which the 3com was setup for in NVRAM. After that, by just loading the ibm ezplay drivers, i could use the 3com board and the megaherz modem fine. in other words, i did not have to load any 3com pcmcia drivers, etc (except of course the ODI driver!). i was happy. HOWEVER, HERE'S THE BAD NEWS: The 3com board does _NOT_ work in the port replicator slots!! :-( It works fine in the 750 slots, but not in slot C or slot D in my port replicator. I was very disappointed. Has anyone got it to work in the port replicator (i doubt it...) I called 3com tech support and bitched, and they called back and said they have an ibm pcmcia port replicator on order. When it arrives (gee, even 3com has to wait for thinkpad stuff!) they say they will at least look into the problem. no promises, however. they also said i was not the first one to complain about this. i encourage others on this list to complain about this! the more people who bitch the higher priority 3com will place on fixing this. sigh. i think i hate pcmcia. -Todd From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 3 15:31:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04669 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 May 1994 15:31:30 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA08060; Tue, 3 May 1994 16:07:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 May 1994 16:07:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from genesis.ait.psu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA08042; Tue, 3 May 1994 16:07:01 -0400 Received: from [146.186.154.28] (rick.hrrm.psu.edu) by genesis.ait.psu.edu with SMTP id AA05847 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 3 May 1994 16:06:37 -0400 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 16:06:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Rick Andrew" Sender: wpa@psu.edu Message-Id: <57964.wpa@email.psu.edu> To: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: 3COM PCMCIA & Thinkpad Status: OR In message Tue, 3 May 94 13:42:12 CDT, tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) writes: > The 3com board does _NOT_ work in the port replicator slots!! :-( > It works fine in the 750 slots, but not in slot C or slot D in > my port replicator. I was very disappointed. Has anyone got > it to work in the port replicator (i doubt it...) No, I have had exactly the same problem. It would be nice to put the card in the replicator and leave it there. I called 3com tech > support and bitched, and they called back and said they have an ibm pcmcia > port replicator on order. When it arrives (gee, even 3com has to wait > for thinkpad stuff!) they say they will at least look into the problem. > no promises, however. they also said i was not the first one to complain > about this. i encourage others on this list to complain about this! > the more people who bitch the higher priority 3com will place on fixing > this. What is the phone number? I will definitely call. Rick ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WPA@psu.edu Rick Andrew <*> HRI Finance WPA@psuvm.psu.edu Penn State Univ 814-863-0272 University Park, PA 16802 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 3 16:56:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15409 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 May 1994 16:56:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA16122; Tue, 3 May 1994 17:31:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 May 1994 17:31:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA16111; Tue, 3 May 1994 17:30:59 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwoio02419; Tue, 3 May 94 17:30:55 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25131; Tue, 3 May 94 14:26:26 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA17113; Tue, 3 May 94 14:31:03 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03706; Tue, 3 May 94 14:29:30 PDT Date: Tue, 3 May 94 14:29:30 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9405032129.AA03706@opus.objy.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 3com ethernet saga Status: OR While we're on the subject, anyone know a good low-priced source for the 3COM card? --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 3 21:15:01 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22542 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 May 1994 21:14:58 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA04707; Tue, 3 May 1994 21:47:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 May 1994 21:47:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from epas.utoronto.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA04700; Tue, 3 May 1994 21:47:30 -0400 Received: by epas.utoronto.ca (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA17204; Tue, 3 May 94 21:46:46 -0400 From: jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca (James Cummings) Message-Id: <9405040146.AA17204@epas.utoronto.ca> Subject: doom/sound To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Think-Pad 750 Mailing list) Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 21:46:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Has Anyone Got Doom working with the Sound? I mean I can select Pc-Speaker... fine and dandy... but hey... I've tried adlib, SB and a couple others and still not gotten it working. curious, -James jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca | 1994: Official Year of The Toronto Free-Net. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 4 01:54:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16122 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 01:54:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA23416; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:32:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:32:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA23409; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:32:24 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA11643 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 4 May 1994 01:32:07 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405040632.AA11643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Updated drivers To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 01:32:07 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405031618.AA08818@hk.super.net> from "Mr. Tony K Ng" at May 4, 94 00:18:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > System 1.04 I saw a new 1.04e I believe. I d/l'ed it but haven't had a chance to check it out yet. > Utility 1.20 There's a 1.21 Utility disk. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 4 02:02:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18364 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 02:02:36 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA24040; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:42:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:42:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA24033; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:42:01 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA13636 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 4 May 1994 01:41:44 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405040641.AA13636@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: PCMCIA Network cards To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 01:41:44 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I noticed that a lot of people have just received their 3COM PCMCIA network adapters. Most people seem happy with some complaints. But no one seems to be using it under OS/2. Anyone? Also, could someone who has a good grasp of the PCMCIA network scene please whip up a message or something that we can add to the FAQ? It seems to be a recurring question and one that I can't handle due to lack of experience. Any takers? Note that this applies to any PCMCIA network card as they probably all have different setups. We'll probably have to include setups for multiple cards... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 4 06:32:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27658 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 06:32:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id HAA16737; Wed, 4 May 1994 07:05:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 May 1994 07:05:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id HAA16721; Wed, 4 May 1994 07:05:27 -0400 Received: from filtroni.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa19833; 4 May 94 11:57 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Updates Date: Wed, 4 May 94 11:55:21 BST Message-Id: <9405041155.aa07356@lopass.filtronic.com> Status: OR A friend of mine is coming from US to Hong Kong and will bring me the updated utilities diskettes from IBM BBS. So, I would like to know what is the most recent versions of the diskettes. The following And is there OS/2 support for the audio yet? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 4 10:53:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07037 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 10:52:40 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA04905; Wed, 4 May 1994 11:15:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 May 1994 11:15:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA04866; Wed, 4 May 1994 11:15:22 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA01198; Wed, 4 May 1994 08:15:19 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA07611; Wed, 4 May 1994 08:15:13 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405041515.IAA07611@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 3com ethernet saga To: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 08:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9405032129.AA03706@opus.objy.com> from "Bruce Reed" at May 3, 94 02:29:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > While we're on the subject, anyone know a good low-priced source > for the 3COM card? Direct from 3Com! They were (maybe still are) running a special promotion! $99 for the PCMCIA 10BT, $129 for a combo. Its a steal! You can call them at (800) 638-3266 for more info. (They also had a special on ISA Ethernet cards--2 for the price of one--$100. I got a pair of those too!) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 4 10:53:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07382 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 10:53:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA04628; Wed, 4 May 1994 11:11:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 May 1994 11:11:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA04620; Wed, 4 May 1994 11:11:48 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id IAA29658; Wed, 4 May 1994 08:12:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 08:12:43 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199405041512.IAA29658@netcom.com> To: mike@filtronic.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Updates Status: OR OS/2 support for audio for the thinkpad actually works better for me. I have a number of games ( just testing my new thinkpad) that do not work with full audio support under DOS ( links 386 pro Sim Cit 2000) but when run under a DOS VDM in OS/2 work with full sound. Martin Smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 4 18:30:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24003 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 18:30:16 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA13352; Wed, 4 May 1994 19:07:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 May 1994 19:07:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tink.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA13337; Wed, 4 May 1994 19:06:56 -0400 Received: from athena.fi.gs.com by tink.com (PMDF V4.3-7 #5880) id <01HBYA9EWMGG8WYHC1@tink.com>; Wed, 4 May 1994 19:05:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paradev1 (paradev1.psd.gs.com) by gs.com (PMDF V4.2-12 #3223) id <01HBYAAA8TTC8YVXU6@gs.com>; Wed, 4 May 1994 19:06:31 EDT Received: from escher.psd.gs.com by paradev1 (4.1/Para2.1) id AA24234; Wed, 4 May 94 19:06:35 EDT Received: by escher.psd.gs.com (4.1/Para2.1) id AA03174; Wed, 4 May 94 19:06:35 EDT Date: Wed, 04 May 1994 19:06:35 -0400 (EDT) From: padwad@psd.gs.com (Danny Padwa) Subject: EasyPlay, IBM Ethernet Adapters, and ODI Has anyone gotten this threesome to work together? I'd used To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <9405042306.AA24234@paradev1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR ODI on my IBM Ethernet card with the Phoenix drivers....no sweat. Except, of course, for the (conventional) memory utilization, which prevented Xware from running atop PC/TCP on the ether card. When I switched to Easy Play, the memory looked much better. But I can't get the ODI stuff to load...pcmdmcs complains with Startup Error: A Node Address is required to complete startup. Any thoughts or ideas?? Thanx, Danny Padwa padwad@psd.gs.com PS> Forgot to mention....750C, 12MB, Dos 6.1, Win 3.1, EasyPlay calls itself version 1.01 From mike@filtronic.com Wed May 4 18:09:19 1994 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16740 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 18:09:05 -0500 Received: from filtroni.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ac21080; 4 May 94 23:59 GMT-60:00 From: Mike O'Carroll X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: PCMCIA Network cards Date: Wed, 4 May 94 11:59:42 BST Message-Id: <9405041159.aa07384@lopass.filtronic.com> Status: OR I noticed that a lot of people have just received their 3COM PCMCIA network adapters. Most people seem happy with some complaints. But no one seems to be using it under OS/2. Anyone? I have IBM's CC Ethernet adaptor working under OS/2. The only problem is when you start the system with no network connection, it takes an age to boot up. Guess it should be possible to shorten the timeouts? Almost makes me wish for config boot menus ... almost :-) Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 6 12:05:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20817 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 6 May 1994 12:05:44 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA11225; Fri, 6 May 1994 12:34:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 6 May 1994 12:34:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA11216; Fri, 6 May 1994 12:34:16 -0400 Received: from batman (BATMAN-CLEAR.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA16678; Fri, 6 May 94 11:29:15 CDT Received: from rover by batman (4.1/client.nfs.930819) id AA07695; Fri, 6 May 94 11:33:19 CDT Date: Fri, 6 May 94 11:33:01 CDT Message-Id: <9405061633.AA07695@batman> X-Sender: byrne@pigpen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Subject: IBM CC Ethernet Adapter X-Mailer: Status: OR Just a note to anyone interested -- I finally got around to configuring my IBM PCMCIA CC Ethernet adapter into Windows for Workgroups. It took some effort, but it now works. Here's a few tidbits on what I had to do: - don't use Easyplay - leave the ignore option set for ethernet in easyplay - get the new ethernet CC disk from the IBM BBS - it has the OEMSETUP.INF file that is needed. - be sure that you get your EMM386 excludes right and consistent with your card services - make sure that your protocol.ini and your system.ini files also have the right adapter addresses in them. As a side note, I'm also running the Daytona/Wolverine TCP/IP stack that is available from the Microsoft FTP and BBS sites. So far, everything is working OK. I'm now able to see and be a part of our Windows NT domain on the network. The only problem is that I keep running out of memory (I still have only 4 megabytes). I had to turn off smartdrive to make it all work without hanging. I have a 16 mbyte card on the way to resolve this problem. Living at 4 mbytes would not be acceptable for long term use. Drop me a note if you'd like more information on my setup. Wes P.S. - while on the IBM BBS, I ran accross two announcements, one that the current IBM Ethernet CC adapter is being discontinued, and the second is the announcement of a new IBM Ethernet CC II adapter. Drop me a note if you'd like me to send you one or both of these announcements. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri May 6 14:35:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15733 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 6 May 1994 14:34:51 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA16936; Fri, 6 May 1994 14:01:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 6 May 1994 14:01:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA16928; Fri, 6 May 1994 14:01:13 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA00971 for ; Fri, 6 May 1994 11:01:00 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA12464 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 6 May 1994 11:00:58 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405061800.LAA12464@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Another though on 3Com PCMCIA To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 11:00:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I too got my 3Com PCMCIA card recently and have had a great deal of luck with making it work (once I figured out how to make a crossover cable-- since I have only 2 computers and no hub on a 10BaseT setup!). I didn't post anything here because it seemed like everyone else also got there's and there was plenty of reviews flying around--so no need for mine. But one thing that seems to have been left out is this comment: Many people have mentioned that their PCMCIA cards of other devices (usually modems) have had to be "hot-plugged"--re-inserted so they would re-activate after the machine had gone into suspend or hibernate mode. The good news is that I have never had to that with the 3Com card. I can suspend and wake-up with impunity and never have to re-plug the card. I presume this has to do with the fact that it bypasses card services and "talks" directly to the port (don't ask me how, but 3Com has it figured out). My guess is that it also makes the card less useful in a wide-variety of machines, since it probably has to play with some special commands that maybe not all (specifically, cheapee) notebooks have. It lists on the box some specific machines it will *not* work with. On another thought--I have a question for those of you who got the 3Com "Combo" PCMCIA card: Does it have 2 different "tails"--one for 10BaseT and one for 10Base2, or what exactly? I am considering getting the combo card for flexibility purposes and returning the 10BaseT only card, but I do not want to have to deal with a big, floppy 10Base2 combination tail when I need only 10BaseT. If I can "choose" the tail I need for the type of network I'm on, I'm willing to spend the extra $30 for the flexibility. Comments, please? ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 6 23:03:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16877 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 6 May 1994 23:03:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA23969; Fri, 6 May 1994 23:39:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 6 May 1994 23:39:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA23960; Fri, 6 May 1994 23:39:40 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA29722 for ; Fri, 6 May 1994 20:00:14 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id UAA29521 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 6 May 1994 20:00:12 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405070300.UAA29521@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: CHEAP PCMCIA Modems To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 20:00:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I ran across this on some private BBS mail (Intelec, I think) and thought those on the list might be interested. I cannot vouch for the seller as I have never done business with him--buy at your own risk. ---- Megahertz 14,400bps, PCMCIA (credit card size) Notebook Data/Fax Modems NEW in Box. 5 Years Warranty! AT&T 14,400 Keep In Touch Card Data/Fax PCMCIA notebook (credit card size) modems, NEW in box. 5 Years Warranty! Full packaging with cards. Winner of PC Magazine Editors Choice award. This modem features a Software-Defined Architecture, meaning that upgrades to the modem can be done thru software so you can have the latest features! All units are NEW, sealed in plastic w/full packaging and cards. YOUR PRICE IS only $210ea. Shipping is included, COD is $5 extra. All items are guarantee to work. Jim Chu (703) 866-4041 ----- Hope its helpful to y'all! ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 6 23:05:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17373 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 6 May 1994 23:05:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA24322; Fri, 6 May 1994 23:43:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 6 May 1994 23:43:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ion.apana.org.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA24297; Fri, 6 May 1994 23:43:10 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 7 May 94 13:45 EST From: timn@ion.apana.org.au (Tim Noonan) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Review of Trantor 358 Parallet to SCSI adapter Status: OR This review is very rough. If you want any further info please contact me at timn@ion.apana.org.au This is a very rough review of the Trantor 358 Parallel to SCSI adapter used on the ThinkPad 750 (mono) machine. All the following comments relate to use of the Trantor 358 with an IBM ThinkPad 750 (mono). This cable supports the EPP (Enhanced Parallel Port specification and claims a transfer rate of up to one Megabyte a second. Regular parallel ports with the Trantor 348 achieve about 250-300 K a second. Note that there are now comms cards in ISA and VESA varieties which contain an EPP parallel port FIFO'd uarts and regular and Fast IDE controllers. This Trantor 358 cable is only better than the less expensive Trantor 348 cable if you have an EPP parallel port (the ThinkPad 750 series machines all do. If you are going to use a Tripple speed CDROM drive, a SCSI hard disk or a scanner then the extra speed is very much worth it. If you only plan using a single or double spin CDROM drive or a Floptical drive or a tape drive then probably the extra cost will be on the whole wasted. The product is reasonably well documented, and consists of the Trantor cable (inc. a parallel pass through socket) the manual, Two disks, and a shielded parallel centronics cable. The software is all ASPI based for DOS and therefore can support quite a wide range of devices. Drivers for Photo CD and older CD-ROM drives are provided, as are drivers for the HP II series scanners (though i haven't tried the HP Scanjet iiCX specifically. The iip and iic both work well. I haven't tried it under OS/2 but there is an OS/2 and winnt directory on the drivers disk. Tape back-up software is provided. I have not tried this. Floptical drives and many hard disks are also supported. Basic installation didn't work properly. I kept getting a hang, during booting on the search for the scanner. This was not a problem at slow speed, but with the ps2 speed fast setting I experienced this problem on most occasions. I tried different Parallel port settings etc, but ended up staying with LPT2 as recommended in the FAQ. Finally I moved the ma358 and the scanner and CDROM drivers to the end of the config.sys - this solved all my problems perfectly. Scanner through-put from the HP iiC seems very good. I successfully used the ASPITar (/diskutl/aspibin.zip) program to access my WangDat 3200 DAT drive to backup my hard disk over the Trantor adaptor. This software is available from the simtel archive. Note that tar files with file names longer than 8.3 can make extractions fail with this port. This is a patched version of GNU tar and uses the ASPI driver installed for the Trantor 358 device. I had no difficulties accessing my Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive either. All-in-all I am very happy with the device, however if the SCSI port on a device was very close to the desk top then there is a chance of the plug on the cable being too close the the desk and not letting the device lie flat on the table-top. This is because of the way the cable exits from the SCSI end of the Trantor cable. The cable has a 25 pin Centronics plug for the PC and a 50 Pin large Centronics style connector for the SCSI device. A 25 pin female socket also extends from the SCSI end of the cable to add your printer or other parallel device. I did have some initial problems with concurrent parallel device and SCSI operation but don't know if this was a configuration issue. I haven't had time to thoroughly sort this problem out or to read the docs properly. The cable isn't overly long, probably about 2 thirds of a meter (two feet) which isn't really long enough. Oh yes, I very occasionally got errors initializing the scanner from my DOS based OCR software or from windows applications. Re-trying seemed to fix this second time round. This problem did not seem to cause any other conflicts. I suspend that it is a send not a receive problem that is affected by the CPU speed of the Thinkpad. No specific drivers are available for Windows from what I can tell, however running windows after booting with the drivers loaded appears to give full access to all the SCSI facilities. The ASPI scanner driver looks identical to the card-based scanner drivers HP provided but works over the Trantor adaptor instead of the SCSI card shipped with the HP scanners. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 7 01:12:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20694 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 May 1994 01:12:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02367; Sat, 7 May 1994 01:52:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 May 1994 01:52:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02360; Sat, 7 May 1994 01:52:23 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA16858 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 7 May 1994 00:52:05 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405070552.AA16858@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Another though on 3Com PCMCIA To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 00:52:04 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405061800.LAA12464@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at May 6, 94 11:00:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > The good news is that I have never had to that with the 3Com card. > I can suspend and wake-up with impunity and never have to re-plug the card. > I presume this has to do with the fact that it bypasses card services and > "talks" directly to the port (don't ask me how, but 3Com has it figured out). This also applies to hibernation? I've never had a problem with suspend, just hibernation mode. The thing that bypasses card services would probably be classified as an enabler... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 7 01:12:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20694 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 May 1994 01:12:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02367; Sat, 7 May 1994 01:52:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 May 1994 01:52:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02360; Sat, 7 May 1994 01:52:23 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA16858 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 7 May 1994 00:52:05 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405070552.AA16858@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Another though on 3Com PCMCIA To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 00:52:04 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405061800.LAA12464@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at May 6, 94 11:00:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > The good news is that I have never had to that with the 3Com card. > I can suspend and wake-up with impunity and never have to re-plug the card. > I presume this has to do with the fact that it bypasses card services and > "talks" directly to the port (don't ask me how, but 3Com has it figured out). This also applies to hibernation? I've never had a problem with suspend, just hibernation mode. The thing that bypasses card services would probably be classified as an enabler... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 7 06:18:01 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00569 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 May 1994 06:17:58 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA27007; Sat, 7 May 1994 06:53:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 May 1994 06:53:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mercury.king.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA27000; Sat, 7 May 1994 06:53:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199405071053.GAA27000@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from ceres.kingston.ac.uk by mercury.kingston.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <07619-0@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:54:10 +0100 Received: from kingston.ac.uk by ceres.kingston.ac.uk id <15876-0@ceres.kingston.ac.uk>; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:54:07 +0100 From: Sergio Terenas Subject: 750 EPP - Have I got one ? / Sparco Email ? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: MMDF/Ream v4.16b Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 11:54:07 +0100 Sender: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk Status: OR Hi, I was just reading a message from someone on the list that says that all tp750s have an Enhanced Parallel Port. My brother's tp500 has a driver to support EPP. My tp750 hasn't. I didn't find any information on the manuals regarding EPP. I have a tp750 Mono bought in the UK. How can I be sure of having a EPP ? Also, I'd like to know if Sparco is on this list. I've some questions about getting a fax/modem from the States. Greetings, Sergio From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 7 10:41:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27424 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 May 1994 10:41:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA12943; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:23:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:23:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA12936; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:23:47 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA20247; Sat, 7 May 1994 08:23:44 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA07000; Sat, 7 May 1994 08:23:41 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405071523.IAA07000@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 750 EPP - Have I got one ? To: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk (Sergio Terenas) Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 08:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199405071053.GAA27000@CS.UTK.EDU> from "Sergio Terenas" at May 7, 94 11:54:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I was just reading a message from someone on the list that says that all > tp750s have an Enhanced Parallel Port. My brother's tp500 has a driver > to support EPP. My tp750 hasn't. I didn't find any information on the > manuals regarding EPP. I have a tp750 Mono bought in the UK. How can I > be sure of having a EPP ? Speaking of which--someone on this list pointed out that you had to do something in the BIOS to enable the Enhanced Parallel Port--whoever it was, could you please post more details? ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 7 10:41:41 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27519 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 May 1994 10:41:38 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA12800; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:21:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:21:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA12793; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:21:43 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA20211; Sat, 7 May 1994 08:21:41 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA06940; Sat, 7 May 1994 08:21:38 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405071521.IAA06940@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Another though on 3Com PCMCIA To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 08:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199405070552.AA16858@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> from "Sean Chou" at May 7, 94 00:52:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > > The good news is that I have never had to that with the 3Com card. > > I can suspend and wake-up with impunity and never have to re-plug the card. > > I presume this has to do with the fact that it bypasses card services and > > "talks" directly to the port (don't ask me how, but 3Com has it figured out).> > This also applies to hibernation? I've never had a problem with suspend, > just hibernation mode. Well, per your comment here, I went and tried it on my TP (which, by the way, since I discovered from this list that suspend was so efficient, I never bother with hibernation anymore!) and the verdict is.... BUZZZZZZ! *If* I could get it to hibernate at all (sometimes it just refuses!), it worked--then when "waking up", it froze. Now this *could* be a Windows for Workgroups software problem, but it could also be the 3Com card--I don't know for sure, since I can't separate the two (the 3Com card would have to be in there to connect with the networking capability in Workgroups--I do not that it hibernates just fine in stand-alone mode though). Alas--no joy. > The thing that bypasses card services would > probably be classified as an enabler... That's precisly what it is called! ;) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 7 22:38:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26162 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 May 1994 22:38:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA21583; Sat, 7 May 1994 23:18:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 May 1994 23:18:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA21576; Sat, 7 May 1994 23:18:28 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA22765 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 7 May 1994 22:18:09 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405080318.AA22765@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: 750 EPP - Have I got one ? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 22:18:09 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405071523.IAA07000@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at May 7, 94 08:23:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Speaking of which--someone on this list pointed out that you > had to do something in the BIOS to enable the Enhanced Parallel Port--whoever > it was, could you please post more details? You have to set the parallel port to LPT2 in the EasySetup BIOS config. I don't know why...otherwise, it acts as a uni or bi- directional parallel port. From whittle@chaph.usc.edu Sun May 8 15:39:27 1994 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11478 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 8 May 1994 15:39:17 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA04099; Sun, 8 May 1994 10:40:25 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA09021; Sun, 8 May 1994 10:40:24 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405081740.KAA09021@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 750 EPP - Have I got one ? To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 10:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199405080318.AA22765@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> from "Sean Chou" at May 7, 94 10:18:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 980 Status: OR > > > Speaking of which--someone on this list pointed out that you > > had to do something in the BIOS to enable the Enhanced Parallel Port--whoev> > it was, could you please post more details? > > You have to set the parallel port to LPT2 in the EasySetup BIOS > config. I don't know why...otherwise, it acts as a uni or bi- > directional parallel port. Let me get this straight: Setting the parallel port to LPT2 automatically "activates" the Enhanced Parallel Port capabilities? Another question though: Where/what applications will this EPP's capabilities come in handy? I'm not certain of the benefits in real-world application. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 9 07:35:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12230 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 May 1994 07:35:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA21299; Mon, 9 May 1994 08:07:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 May 1994 08:07:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tiamat.umd.umich.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA21292; Mon, 9 May 1994 08:07:14 -0400 Received: by tiamat.umd.umich.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05210; Mon, 9 May 94 08:06:11 EDT X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 08:09:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Adam Wilkinson" Sender: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Reply-To: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Message-Id: <29366.adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu> To: Subject: Fw: Re: 750 EPP - Have I got one ? Status: OR > > > Speaking of which--someone on this list pointed out that you > > had to do something in the BIOS to enable the Enhanced Parallel Port--whoev> > it was, could you please post more details? > > You have to set the parallel port to LPT2 in the EasySetup BIOS > config. I don't know why...otherwise, it acts as a uni or bi- > directional parallel port. Let me get this straight: Setting the parallel port to LPT2 automatically "activates" the Enhanced Parallel Port capabilities? Another question though: Where/what applications will this EPP's capabilities come in handy? I'm not certain of the benefits in real-world application. No, setting the BIOS to PARALLEL_2 merely configures the hardware so it will function as an EPP. The port is STILL LPT1:, but now has a different address. The default parallel port address used by the 750 (0x3BC ?) doe snot conform to the EPP specification. Setting the port to PARALLEL_2 changes the address to 0x378, which is acceptable. To make use of EPP, you must have a device that is capable of using it, and you must use a driver to activate the support. Parallel port LAN adapters are the most common EPP devices (Xircom and Zenith did the original development on EPP for this purpose), but you may find other devices, such as SCSI adpapters, thatcan use it as well. As for the driver, it is usually called EPP.COM or EPP.SYS, and will usually be bundled with any EPP-compliant peripheral, not the computer. Some peripheral software now ships with the EPP drivers as part of the software, as opposed to stand-alone drivers. Adam Wilkinson adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu | "The first time it's research. the second usfmcltc@ibmmail.com | time is just engineering!" - Cliff Stoll Compuserve: 75470,71 | (author of "The Cuckoo's Egg" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 9 07:37:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12417 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 May 1994 07:37:42 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA21290; Mon, 9 May 1994 08:07:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 May 1994 08:07:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tiamat.umd.umich.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA21283; Mon, 9 May 1994 08:07:06 -0400 Received: by tiamat.umd.umich.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05207; Mon, 9 May 94 08:06:03 EDT X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 08:09:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Adam Wilkinson" Sender: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Reply-To: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Message-Id: <29360.adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu> To: Subject: Fw: Status: OR Recently, I would like to purchase a TP750. But, I heard about the TP755 will be released. When? If anybody knows about that, please e-mail to me. I don't want to spend about $5500 to get an old model! Thanx in advance! IBM is likely to annouce the week, but product may not be available until sometime in June. Adam Wilkinson adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu | "The first time it's research. the second usfmcltc@ibmmail.com | time is just engineering!" - Cliff Stoll Compuserve: 75470,71 | (author of "The Cuckoo's Egg" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 9 12:27:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09055 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 May 1994 12:27:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA02816; Mon, 9 May 1994 12:43:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 May 1994 12:43:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA02809; Mon, 9 May 1994 12:43:30 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA22421; Mon, 9 May 1994 09:43:21 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id JAA11795; Mon, 9 May 1994 09:43:14 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405091643.JAA11795@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: 750 EPP - Have I got one ? To: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 09:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <29366.adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu> from "Adam Wilkinson" at May 9, 94 08:09:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > No, setting the BIOS to PARALLEL_2 merely configures the hardware so it will > function as an EPP. The port is STILL LPT1:, but now has a different > address. The default parallel port address used by the 750 (0x3BC ?) doe > snot conform to the EPP specification. Setting the port to PARALLEL_2 > changes the address to 0x378, which is acceptable. > > To make use of EPP, you must have a device that is capable of using it, and > you must use a driver to activate the support. Parallel port LAN adapters Thank you for the clarification, Adam! Just so that I don't have to worry about setting it in the future if/when I should get such a device, would there be any incompatibility in setting the Parallell port to PARALLEL_2 in the BIOS now, even though I may not be using the EPP features (which would of course, require a driver)? I presume I could still print to a printer with it, etc.? ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 9 13:43:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10298 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 May 1994 13:43:28 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA12595; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:11:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:11:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from oz.geology.washington.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA12559; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:11:50 -0400 Received: by oz.geology.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA25461; Mon, 9 May 94 10:58:40 PDT Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 10:47:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor C. Kress" Subject: Re: Another though on 3Com PCMCIA To: Randal Whittle Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199405061800.LAA12464@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Fri, 6 May 1994, Randal Whittle wrote: > > On another thought--I have a question for those of you who got the > 3Com "Combo" PCMCIA card: Does it have 2 different "tails"--one for > 10BaseT and one for 10Base2, or what exactly? I am considering getting > the combo card for flexibility purposes and returning the 10BaseT only card, > but I do not want to have to deal with a big, floppy 10Base2 combination > tail when I need only 10BaseT. If I can "choose" the tail I need for the > type of network I'm on, I'm willing to spend the extra $30 for the flexibility. > > Comments, please? The combo card has two "pigtails", one for 10bt and one for 10b2. The card automaticly senses which is hooked up (I've used both interchagably with no setup required). The specs say that the 10bt consumes 110mA while the 10b2 uses 430. -Victor Kress From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 9 14:04:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20273 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 May 1994 14:04:24 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA16031; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:37:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:37:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA16020; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:37:41 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA29211; Mon, 9 May 1994 11:37:37 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA22160; Mon, 9 May 1994 11:37:33 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405091837.LAA22160@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Another though on 3Com PCMCIA To: kress@oz.geology.washington.edu (Victor C. Kress) Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 11:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Victor C. Kress" at May 9, 94 10:47:37 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > On another thought--I have a question for those of you who got the > > 3Com "Combo" PCMCIA card: Does it have 2 different "tails"--one for > The combo card has two "pigtails", one for 10bt and one for 10b2. The > card automaticly senses which is hooked up (I've used both interchagably Thanks! So are you saying that one need not change the setup, if switching tails? I've noticed that my card says "for 10BaseT and Coax" on it, so I presume I need only to purchase the additional tail. > with no setup required). The specs say that the 10bt consumes 110mA while > the 10b2 uses 430. 430 mA? Wow--that's a lot more than twisted pair! ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 9 14:12:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23201 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 May 1994 14:12:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA17362; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:46:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:45:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from oz.geology.washington.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA17341; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:45:54 -0400 Received: by oz.geology.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA25496; Mon, 9 May 94 11:32:47 PDT Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 11:30:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor C. Kress" Subject: Re: Another though on 3Com PCMCIA To: Randal Whittle Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199405091837.LAA22160@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Mon, 9 May 1994, Randal Whittle wrote: > > > On another thought--I have a question for those of you who got the > > > 3Com "Combo" PCMCIA card: Does it have 2 different "tails"--one for > > > The combo card has two "pigtails", one for 10bt and one for 10b2. The > > card automaticly senses which is hooked up (I've used both interchagably > > Thanks! So are you saying that one need not change the setup, if > switching tails? > Just plug it in and use it. -Victor Kress From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 10 12:01:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13608 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 May 1994 12:01:36 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA05097; Tue, 10 May 1994 12:27:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 10 May 1994 12:27:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA05088; Tue, 10 May 1994 12:27:30 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA02292 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 10 May 1994 11:27:07 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405101627.AA02292@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: TP750 EPP To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 11:27:06 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405081740.KAA09021@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at May 8, 94 10:40:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Let me get this straight: Setting the parallel port to LPT2 > automatically "activates" the Enhanced Parallel Port capabilities? Yup. From what I gather anyway...and from what I gleaned off of the CompuServe messages. > Another question though: Where/what applications will this EPP's > capabilities come in handy? I'm not certain of the benefits in real-world > application. Well, EPP doesn't come in handy unless you have some sort of high throughput device on the parallel. For example, if you are using LapLink, you can reach speeds of at least 1mb/s transfer rates using the EPP. Also, the throughput is much higher so that while a quadruple speed CD-ROM would exceed a regular parallel port or a bidirectional parallel port's throughput, it doesn't come near to the EPP. The Trantor EPP's thoughput is 1mb/s. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 10 16:12:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21563 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 May 1994 16:12:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA05631; Tue, 10 May 1994 16:47:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 10 May 1994 16:47:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA05624; Tue, 10 May 1994 16:47:10 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwpih12666; Tue, 10 May 94 16:46:57 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14547; Tue, 10 May 94 13:42:04 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA20438; Tue, 10 May 94 13:47:07 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17507; Tue, 10 May 94 13:45:02 PDT Date: Tue, 10 May 94 13:45:02 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9405102045.AA17507@opus.objy.com> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: TP750 EPP Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR > Well, EPP doesn't come in handy unless you have some sort of high > throughput device on the parallel. For example, if you are using > LapLink, you can reach speeds of at least 1mb/s transfer rates using > the EPP. Also, the throughput is much higher so that while a > quadruple speed CD-ROM would exceed a regular parallel port or a > bidirectional parallel port's throughput, it doesn't come near to > the EPP. The Trantor EPP's thoughput is 1mb/s. I keep telling myself I'm going to purchase laplink but haven't gotten around to it yet. (Any testimonials?) I assume the 1mb/s transfer rate is only possible if you have EPP ports on both ends of the link, right? I would think a plain unidirectional parallel port on either end would constrain throughput to the speed of that device. --Bruce From lenj@oes.amdahl.com Tue May 10 16:16:10 1994 Received: from amdahl.com by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23223 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 May 1994 16:16:07 -0500 Received: by amdahl.com (/\==/\ Smail #25.33) id ; Tue, 10 May 94 14:16 PDT Received: by cessna.oes.amdahl.com (5.0/SMI-4.1/DNS) id AA00893; Tue, 10 May 1994 14:16:06 +0800 Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 14:16:06 +0800 From: lenj@oes.amdahl.com (Len Jacobson) Message-Id: <9405102116.AA00893@cessna.oes.amdahl.com> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, bruce@objy.com Subject: Re: TP750 EPP Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 1406 Status: OR > I keep telling myself I'm going to purchase laplink but haven't > gotten around to it yet. (Any testimonials?) I assume the 1mb/s ***************** ***************** > transfer rate is only possible if you have EPP ports on both ends > of the link, right? I would think a plain unidirectional parallel port > on either end would constrain throughput to the speed of that device. > > --Bruce > I have been using LapLink V for a few months now. I use it to synchronize my desktop with the laptop. It took quite a while and lots of phone calls to the LapLink people and to IBM Help people until I found the right formula. My problem was that the communication line between the two computers would die in the middle of transmission (and the frustrating thing was that there was no easy way to automatically pick up where it left off -- so it meant starting from fresh). Bottom line -- I have found consistently good results ONLY when I use a serial link between the two (parallel, though faster, would not work consis- tently). It runs at 115,200 baud. IMPORTANT: The TP750 MUST be brought up withOUT any of the TSRs running. So I do the most minimal boot of the laptop that I can. Given that, the product works fine for me and does what I need. If you want more specifics, please email me. Len Jacobson From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 11 08:27:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10603 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 11 May 1994 08:27:56 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA25135; Wed, 11 May 1994 09:06:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 11 May 1994 09:06:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ion.apana.org.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA24993; Wed, 11 May 1994 09:06:14 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 11 May 94 23:09 EST From: timn@ion.apana.org.au (Tim Noonan) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Crashes with MKS VI for DOS with Tolkit version 4.1 Status: OR Is anyone else using the DOS version of MKS VI supplied with version 4.1 of the MKS Toolkit for DOS? ex works very reliably, but when I switch to vi I often get crashes after a short period of time. Maybe this is like the cursor problem in WordPerfect? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks Tim From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 12 01:37:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11234 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 12 May 1994 01:37:14 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26379; Thu, 12 May 1994 02:18:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 12 May 1994 02:18:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26366; Thu, 12 May 1994 02:18:26 -0400 Received: from news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.4.2]) by fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.6) id ; Thu, 12 May 1994 00:15:04 -0600 Received: by news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.2; from uucp@localhost) id ; Thu, 12 May 1994 00:15:26 -0600 Received: from nucleus.UUCP by dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca (4.1/Cuc2.2) id AA13605; Wed, 11 May 94 19:06:51 MDT Message-Id: <9405120106.AA13605@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca> Received: by nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (1.64/waf) via UUCP; Wed, 11 May 94 19:00:27 MDT for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Tim Kary) Subject: Re-Introduction to the List Date: Wed, 11 May 94 17:17:24 MST Organization: Atomic Data Communications X-Maildoor: MajorMAIL V1.61 Status: OR Hi all! Due to a transition to a new domain name my e-mail was interrupted for nearly three weeks. Prior to that I had been with the list for a couple of months. I know I had a couple of dialogs in motion at the time of interruption and invite those involved to contact me so that we can pick up where we left off. By way of re-introduction, I own a TP750 Cs, with 8M of RAM, 170M HDD, Megahertz XJ1144 fax/modem, external keyboard connection. I am operating MS-DOS 6.2 with Windows 3.1. I originally had a problem with application memory(lack of), but through previous help from list members, that has been rectified - I now have 605K + 13K of upper memory available! Tim Kary ---------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Kary twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca 403-262-7021 403-262-1392(FAX) T.Kary@genie.geis.com Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 12 20:30:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27226 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 12 May 1994 20:30:32 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13456; Thu, 12 May 1994 21:04:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 12 May 1994 21:04:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from namaste.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13449; Thu, 12 May 1994 21:04:16 -0400 Received: by namaste.cc.columbia.edu id AA17593 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 12 May 1994 21:04:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 21:04:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew M. Benkard" Subject: Modem standoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hi all. I'm torn between the MHz XJ1144 and the USR WorldPort. Roughly the same price. MHz has a better jack (I hear), but I have had good experience with USRobotics. Which should I buy? Thanks/ Andrew From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 12 21:30:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18850 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 12 May 1994 21:30:50 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16472; Thu, 12 May 1994 22:11:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 12 May 1994 22:11:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from u.cc.utah.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16465; Thu, 12 May 1994 22:11:51 -0400 Received: (from pawcamp@localhost) by u.cc.utah.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA01655; Thu, 12 May 1994 20:11:16 -0600 Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 20:10:42 -0600 (MDT) From: "Paul W. Campbell" Subject: Re: Modem standoff To: "Andrew M. Benkard" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Thu, 12 May 1994, Andrew M. Benkard wrote: > > Hi all. I'm torn between the MHz XJ1144 and the USR WorldPort. > Roughly the same price. MHz has a better jack (I hear), but I have had > good experience with USRobotics. Which should I buy? It's not that I'm biased, BUT, I'd say buy the MHZ PCMCIA modems.... pc Paul W. Campbell Megahertz Corporation pawcamp@u.cc.utah.edu 605 N 5600 W, M/S 2108 pwc@pine.cse.nau.edu Salt Lake City, UT 84116 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 13 02:28:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06279 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 13 May 1994 02:28:57 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10051; Fri, 13 May 1994 03:13:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 13 May 1994 03:13:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10044; Fri, 13 May 1994 03:13:51 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id AAA25285; Fri, 13 May 1994 00:13:46 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 00:13:46 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199405130713.AAA25285@netcom.com> To: amb65@columbia.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Modem standoff Status: OR I would advice the Megahertz. It has no stoopid dongle to forget. I am a little biased as it supports the thinkpad extextremelly well ESP under OS/2 my os of choice. Martin Smith msmith@netcom.com :wq From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 13 21:00:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25771 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 13 May 1994 21:00:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23208; Fri, 13 May 1994 21:32:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 13 May 1994 21:32:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23104; Fri, 13 May 1994 21:32:26 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02148; Fri, 13 May 1994 18:29:25 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 06:33:08 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <23588.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: timn@ion.apana.org.au, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Review of Trantor 358 Parallet to SCSI adapter Status: OR In message Sat, 7 May 94 13:45 EST, timn@ion.apana.org.au (Tim Noonan) writes: > This is a very rough review of the Trantor 358 Parallel to SCSI adapter > used on the ThinkPad 750 (mono) machine. Thanks for the review. I'm thinking of getting one now (vs. buying a 500MB 2.5" Tosiba hard drive for $650 and hoping it works). > I haven't tried it under OS/2 but there is an OS/2 and winnt directory > on the drivers disk. Does this mean you will try it under OS/2? Inquiring minds want to know... > The cable has a 25 pin Centronics plug for the PC and a 50 Pin large > Centronics style connector for the SCSI device. A 25 pin female socket > also extends from the SCSI end of the cable to add your printer or other > parallel device. The cable does the parallel/SCSI conversion? Or is there some sort of device in the middle or at one end? > The cable isn't overly long, probably about 2 thirds of a meter (two > feet) which isn't really long enough. SCSI cables aren't supposed to be much longer than this. Besides, 25-wire cables can get expensive. :) Any problems after going into and out of suspend/hibernate? Does the cable block access to the adjacent video and serial ports? Do you have a SCSI hard drive so you can run some real throughput tests? Thanks. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 15 00:03:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09352 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 15 May 1994 00:03:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07122; Sun, 15 May 1994 00:37:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 15 May 1994 00:37:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ion.apana.org.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06964; Sun, 15 May 1994 00:35:14 -0400 Message-Id: From: timn@ion.apana.org.au (Tim Noonan) Subject: Re: Review of Trantor 358 Parallet to SCSI adapter1 To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 14:37:03 +1000 (EST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <23588.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at May 13, 94 06:33:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Status: OR John Kim writes: > > In message Sat, 7 May 94 13:45 EST, timn@ion.apana.org.au (Tim Noonan) writes: > > > This is a very rough review of the Trantor 358 Parallel to SCSI adapter > > used on the ThinkPad 750 (mono) machine. > > Thanks for the review. I'm thinking of getting one now (vs. buying a 500MB > 2.5" Tosiba hard drive for $650 and hoping it works). > > > I haven't tried it under OS/2 but there is an OS/2 and winnt directory > > on the drivers disk. > > Does this mean you will try it under OS/2? Inquiring minds want to know... Well, it is possible, but I don't have OS/2 installed currently. It is not a high priority at the moment I'm sorry. If I do get OS/2 installed soon (for some other compatibility testing I want to do) I will try the Trantor also. > > > The cable has a 25 pin Centronics plug for the PC and a 50 Pin large > > Centronics style connector for the SCSI device. A 25 pin female socket > > also extends from the SCSI end of the cable to add your printer or other > > parallel device. > > The cable does the parallel/SCSI conversion? Or is there some sort of > device in the middle or at one end? Unlike the earlier Trantor 338 cable, the 358 is a single cable. One end has the 25 pin parallel plug on it, the other ends with the 50-pin SCSI plug. the 25-pin socket for a printer iextends back from the SCSI plug, but is fixed to the SCSI plug. That is to say it isn't aattached by an extra bit of cable. I imagine, but don't know, that the actual circuitry is in the SCSI end of the cable. > > The cable isn't overly long, probably about 2 thirds of a meter (two > > feet) which isn't really long enough. > > SCSI cables aren't supposed to be much longer than this. Besides, 25-wire > cables can get expensive. :) Yes, I agree, but an extra foot would still be in spec and would be useful in some configurations. > > Any problems after going into and out of suspend/hibernate? Ah, good question, it doesn't ring a bell - but will do some testing of this shortly and let you know. > > Does the cable block access to the adjacent video and serial ports? Serial and Video ports are both easily accessed. I've had both connected when the Trantor was connected with no hassles. > > Do you have a SCSI hard drive so you can run some real throughput tests? Not one that is easily accessible. I'll see what I can come up with here, but don't hold your breath. If it wasn't that I was in Australia I'd offer to let you test it out for yourself :-) > -- > John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like > jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole > This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" > Tim Noonan PGP Public key available: timn@ion.apana.org.au finger timn@ion.apana.org.au@yarrina.connect.com.au From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 15 09:51:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20464 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 15 May 1994 09:51:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09276; Sun, 15 May 1994 10:32:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 15 May 1994 10:32:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09267; Sun, 15 May 1994 10:31:59 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com ([153.113.1.1]) by dsd.northrop.com (4.1/Gatemaster-4.1) id AA10763; Sun, 15 May 94 09:41:37 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0q2h7R-0009b5C; Sun, 15 May 94 09:24 CDT Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0q2hFF-000BgyC; Sun, 15 May 94 09:32 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Monochrome 750 value To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 09:32:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I was thinking of selling my monochrome 750 with 170MB disk. My friends tell me that I should either keep the machine or give it to someone I care for as monochrome systems have little value on the used market. In fact, I was told that I was foolish to have spent as much as I did for a "overdone" machine, and should have purchased a cheaper monochrome or color machine. Comments? -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 15 10:36:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23455 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 15 May 1994 10:36:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13905; Sun, 15 May 1994 11:17:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 15 May 1994 11:17:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13897; Sun, 15 May 1994 11:17:11 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA00675; Sun, 15 May 94 11:17:02 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 May 94 11:17:02 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405151517.AA00675@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: strat@atfs0.dsd.northrop.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Monochrome 750 value Status: OR a cheaper monochrome machine would have been much less satisfactory if you find the Trackpoint-II attractive. To me no other notebook is usable for GUI-based systems, since all trackballs are impossible! In order to give some advice, you need to give us some idea of why you want to seel your current machine. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 15 11:20:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27259 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 15 May 1994 11:20:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18375; Sun, 15 May 1994 12:01:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 15 May 1994 12:00:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18365; Sun, 15 May 1994 12:00:57 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com ([153.113.1.1]) by dsd.northrop.com (4.1/Gatemaster-4.1) id AA10804; Sun, 15 May 94 11:10:36 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0q2iVY-0009b1C; Sun, 15 May 94 10:53 CDT Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0q2idN-000Bh3C; Sun, 15 May 94 11:01 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Monochrome 750 value To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 11:01:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR >a cheaper monochrome machine would have been much less satisfactory if >you find the Trackpoint-II attractive. To me no other notebook is usable >for GUI-based systems, since all trackballs are impossible! > >In order to give some advice, you need to give us some idea of why you >want to sell your current machine. The cost of purchasing a larger drive from IBM makes an upgrade not attractive. Even the cost of an after market driver is half way to the cost of a 750Cs with a 340MB drive, with respect to what I already spent on the mono machine. Thus the primary need is to move up to a larger drive. A secondary issue is color. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 15 12:20:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03435 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 15 May 1994 12:20:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23799; Sun, 15 May 1994 13:03:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 15 May 1994 13:03:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23792; Sun, 15 May 1994 13:03:20 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA00819; Sun, 15 May 94 13:03:13 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 May 94 13:03:13 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405151703.AA00819@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: strat@atfs0.dsd.northrop.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Monochrome 750 value Status: OR I think you can expect the cost of these drives to be going down all the time, you might do bvetter to just wait a while. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 16 13:49:39 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19850 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 May 1994 13:49:35 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15785; Mon, 16 May 1994 14:26:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 May 1994 14:26:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from oz.geology.washington.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15765; Mon, 16 May 1994 14:25:58 -0400 Received: by oz.geology.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA01624; Mon, 16 May 94 11:12:23 PDT Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 10:36:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor C. Kress" Subject: Re: Monochrome 750 value To: Scott Stratmoen Cc: ThinkPad 750 Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Sun, 15 May 1994, Scott Stratmoen wrote: > > The cost of purchasing a larger drive from IBM makes an upgrade not > attractive. Even the cost of an after market driver is half way to the > cost of a 750Cs with a 340MB drive, with respect to what I already spent > on the mono machine. > > Thus the primary need is to move up to a larger drive. A secondary issue > is color. > -- > Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com > | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) I decided on a monochrome machine for the following reasons: 1. Anecdotal evidence suggests that the monochrome battery life is significantly greater than active matrix color. 2. Monochrome reliability is higher. 3. The money I saved getting the monochrome instead of color allowed me to get a faster machine with more memory, trackpoint, and a modem card. 4. 90% of the time, I use an external VGA-SVGA anyway. 5. color doesn't really matter much for most of the applications I use. I don't regret the monochrome at all. What I do regret is that I didn't first check out how outrageously priced the HD upgrades are. Had I considered this, several other machines I considered buying might have rated higher in my ranking. Wild proposal #3: We select a competent hardware guru from among the group. Those that are interested contribute a moderate sum of money for the purchase of an appropriate third party hard drive (I would think $20-$30 would do it if lots of people are interested). The guru attempts to install the drive in a tp750, carefully documenting his/her progress. If the installation succeeds, the guru gets a free HD upgrade, and the entire group gets upgrade documentation. If not, one of the group purchases the hardware at a discount from the rest of the group (or we lose our investment), and we know to stop holding our breath and spring for an external SCSI drive. There are many obvious potential problems (mostly related to trust) but some reader (probably a lawyer) might have a way to make it work. -Victor Kress From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 16 16:47:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19921 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 May 1994 16:47:44 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08132; Mon, 16 May 1994 17:26:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 May 1994 17:26:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from srlns1.srl.ford.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08119; Mon, 16 May 1994 17:26:49 -0400 Received: from ah1170.acg.ford.com (ah1170.acg.ford.com [19.48.81.170]) by srlns1.srl.ford.com (8.6.8/FordSRL 1.0) with SMTP id RAA03988 for ; Mon, 16 May 1994 17:26:17 -0400 Received: by ah1170.acg.ford.com (5.61/1.3U) id AA17240; Mon May 16 17:29:28 1994 From: lbrown4@ah1170.acg.ford.com (Les Brown ELD) Message-Id: <9405162129.AA17240@ah1170.acg.ford.com> Subject: 3c589 Ethernet Adapter To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 16 May 94 17:29:27 EDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: OR I am trying to get the 3c589 to work with autodrv. Has anybody had any luck? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 16 18:09:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11543 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 May 1994 18:09:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16294; Mon, 16 May 1994 18:49:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 May 1994 18:49:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16286; Mon, 16 May 1994 18:49:37 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com ([153.113.1.1]) by dsd.northrop.com (4.1/Gatemaster-4.1) id AA11558; Mon, 16 May 94 17:59:12 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0q3BMS-0009b1C; Mon, 16 May 94 17:42 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0q3BQS-00000GC; Mon, 16 May 94 17:46 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@bart.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Monochrome 750 value To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 17:46:20 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Victor C. Kress" at May 16, 94 10:36:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Wild proposal #3: We select a competent hardware guru from among the > group. Those that are interested contribute a moderate sum of money for > the purchase of an appropriate third party hard drive (I would think > $20-$30 would do it if lots of people are interested). The guru attempts > to install the drive in a tp750, carefully documenting his/her progress. > If the installation succeeds, the guru gets a free HD upgrade, and the > entire group gets upgrade documentation. If not, one of the group > purchases the hardware at a discount from the rest of the group (or we > lose our investment), and we know to stop holding our breath and spring > for an external SCSI drive. There are many obvious potential problems > (mostly related to trust) but some reader (probably a lawyer) might have a > way to make it work. > > -Victor Kress > I have been toying with the idea of purchasing a 2 1/2" drive and giving the upgrade a try. The problem is that there are few firms selling "notebook" drives. I think that in general there are few people willing, or able, to perform an upgrade on a notebook. FYI, I am not looking for any money, but I go through with a drive upgrade the procedure will become public. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 16 21:04:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12716 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 May 1994 21:04:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04748; Mon, 16 May 1994 21:53:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 May 1994 21:53:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms.macc.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04741; Mon, 16 May 1994 21:53:34 -0400 Received: from VMSmail by vms.macc.wisc.edu; Mon, 16 May 94 20:53 CDT Message-Id: <24051620532553@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 16 May 94 20:53 CDT From: Chris Schumann Subject: 15 second hang with pen system To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Status: OR If anyone else has joined the list with a 750P (who am I kidding?), You will have noticed that upon pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del under Windows (to which an IBM service rep said "Why would you want to do that?") brings up the blue (I think it's blue) screen, sits fifteen seconds, and then acts as if you pressed ENTER wether you did or not. I found this bug report on Microsoft Developer CD. It states that their EXAMPLE PEN DRIVER does this, and should be avoided on systems with a pen and keyboard, because just this problem will occur. Hmm. So I talked to IBM again today, and the guy in Level I support (the people you call, not the people who call you back) guy, who was actually more knowledgeable than some of his peers, had me fax him the article, and told me that all the device drivers are written in Japan, and that he would see that this info got to the correct party. So, when can I expect a new pen driver? chris From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 16 22:34:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29353 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 May 1994 22:34:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20023; Mon, 16 May 1994 23:17:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 May 1994 23:17:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20011; Mon, 16 May 1994 23:17:24 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA28277; Mon, 16 May 1994 20:17:20 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id UAA26362; Mon, 16 May 1994 20:17:18 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405170317.UAA26362@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 3c589 Ethernet Adapter To: lbrown4@ah1170.acg.ford.com (Les Brown ELD) Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 20:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9405162129.AA17240@ah1170.acg.ford.com> from "Les Brown ELD" at May 16, 94 05:29:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > I am trying to get the 3c589 to work with autodrv. Has anybody had > any luck? Once you configure properly (using the 3Com software), the card is enabled without use of the EZPlay/autodrive software. But you can usually still use it with the EZPlay software (assuming you need the EZPlay to run another card like a modem). If there is any conflict, check your 3Com diskette for a directory called "CS_HLP" or something like that. It has a driver that should help your 3Com card still work while Card Services is being used to work another PCMCIA card. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 16 23:35:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11074 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 May 1994 23:34:55 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26460; Tue, 17 May 1994 00:11:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 May 1994 00:11:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26452; Tue, 17 May 1994 00:11:54 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id AAA06863 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 17 May 1994 00:13:36 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E1B6AD; Mon, 16 May 94 22:22:26 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Portable Printer From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.400426.700.0CE1B6AD@channel1.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 94 22:20:00 -0400 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Status: OR Subject: Portable Printer I purchased a Citizen Notebook Printer II, am I disappointed in it!! My biggest gripe is that if you're using a paper with the slightest bit of texture, the printout resembles a page printed by an antique typewriter with bad keys!! Another problem is that the cartridge only lasts for about 20 full pages (word not graphics). Anyone have any recommendations on portable printing? I noticed IBM has a printer similar to the Citizen....anyone have one? Thanks, Joseph Pereira joseph.pereira@channel1.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 17 07:09:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00536 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 17 May 1994 07:09:07 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16630; Tue, 17 May 1994 07:47:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 May 1994 07:47:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gwis.circ.gwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16623; Tue, 17 May 1994 07:47:30 -0400 Received: (halinatr@localhost) by gwis.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.5) id HAA06192; Tue, 17 May 1994 07:47:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 07:40:49 -0400 (EDT) From: darren mccabe Subject: Re: Monochrome 750 value To: "Victor C. Kress" Cc: Scott Stratmoen , ThinkPad 750 Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Ya know, it sounds crazy, so crazy that IT JUST MIGHT WORK! If said guru was competent and the hard drive was priced right, I'd throw in to get some decent documentation! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Darren Patrick McCabe "Hal" | Mail: Halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu On Mon, 16 May 1994, Victor C. Kress wrote: > Wild proposal #3: We select a competent hardware guru from among the > group. Those that are interested contribute a moderate sum of money for > the purchase of an appropriate third party hard drive (I would think > $20-$30 would do it if lots of people are interested). The guru attempts > to install the drive in a tp750, carefully documenting his/her progress. > If the installation succeeds, the guru gets a free HD upgrade, and the > entire group gets upgrade documentation. If not, one of the group > purchases the hardware at a discount from the rest of the group (or we > lose our investment), and we know to stop holding our breath and spring > for an external SCSI drive. There are many obvious potential problems > (mostly related to trust) but some reader (probably a lawyer) might have a > way to make it work. > > -Victor Kress > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 17 07:58:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03217 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 17 May 1994 07:58:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22114; Tue, 17 May 1994 08:37:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 May 1994 08:37:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mercury.king.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22106; Tue, 17 May 1994 08:37:44 -0400 Message-Id: <199405171237.IAA22106@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from ceres.kingston.ac.uk by mercury.kingston.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <09685-0@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>; Tue, 17 May 1994 13:37:45 +0100 Received: from kingston.ac.uk by ceres.kingston.ac.uk id <03580-0@ceres.kingston.ac.uk>; Tue, 17 May 1994 13:37:17 +0100 From: Sergio Terenas Subject: Sound on 750 - a nice program To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: MMDF/Ream v4.16b Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 13:37:17 +0100 Sender: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk Status: OR Just thought you might want to know. There's a program on wuarchive.wustl.edu on the sounds directory for windows called mod4win.zip that plays .MOD files on the tp750. It sound nice and you can run other applications while listening to your own favourite themes. It's a nice way of using the Hi-fi speaker of the 750. By the way has anyone got more info on how to program the speaker ? Anyone using a different music player for the 750 ? Note: I'm just a happy unregistered user of mod4win. The shareware version is a bit annoying since it has some notices for registration... Greetings, Sergio Terenas From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 17 13:48:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23113 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 17 May 1994 13:48:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29766; Tue, 17 May 1994 14:19:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 May 1994 14:19:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29726; Tue, 17 May 1994 14:19:31 -0400 Received: from FirstPerson.COM (rampart.EBay.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA16418; Tue, 17 May 94 11:19:02 PDT Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by FirstPerson.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14295; Tue, 17 May 94 11:17:06 PDT Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12938; Tue, 17 May 1994 11:16:42 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27024; Tue, 17 May 1994 11:18:46 +0800 Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 11:18:46 +0800 From: Chuck.McManis@firstperson.com (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9405171818.AA27024@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, joseph.pereira@channel1.com Subject: Re: Portable Printer X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: OR >>Anyone have any recommendations on portable printing? >I noticed IBM has a printer similar to the Citizen....anyone have one? Last year when I was travelling a lot I just used my FAX modem for printing. Every hotel I stayed in had a FAX machine and the software that came with the MegaHertz modem let me configure it as a printer in windows. So when ever I needed to print something out I would just fax it to myself at the front desk. They would take it off the fax and bring it up to my room. Quite convienient. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 18 00:30:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14449 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 May 1994 00:30:50 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08655; Wed, 18 May 1994 01:10:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 May 1994 01:10:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08638; Wed, 18 May 1994 01:10:05 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA21969; Tue, 17 May 1994 22:06:56 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 10:10:40 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <36641.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: kress@oz.geology.washington.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Monochrome 750 value Status: OR In message Mon, 16 May 1994 10:36:48 -0700 (PDT), "Victor C. Kress" writes: > Wild proposal #3: We select a competent hardware guru from among the > group. Those that are interested contribute a moderate sum of money for > the purchase of an appropriate third party hard drive (I would think > $20-$30 would do it if lots of people are interested). The guru attempts > to install the drive in a tp750, carefully documenting his/her progress. Actually, I'm about halfway through this process so far. I've gotten verification from IBM that there's nothing weird about their HD controller - if the drive responds properly to the IDE identify commands (heads, sectors, cylinders, etc) it should work with the TP750. I've called Toshiba about some of the 2.5" drives they make and gotten some specs like dimensions and power (to make sure it doesn't blow the TP750's fuse, which IBM says will void the warranty - I thought fuses were there so you wouldn't damage the hardware?). If anybody has model numbers and phone numbers for other 2.5" hard drives and manufacturers (and some place that sells them), I'll check those too. Right now I'm waiting for IBM to give me specs on their drives, as well as the peak current a drive can draw before blowing the fuse. > If the installation succeeds, the guru gets a free HD upgrade, and the > entire group gets upgrade documentation. Hey, do I get a free drive if I figure out it works on my own? :) Somebody else has on this list has a 250 MB Maxtor(?) in their TP750. Toshiba hasn't tested their drives in the TP750 (although they've had reports of their drives working in Thinkpads). Also, I found out the 520 megger is a 19mm drive, while measuring the IBM hard drive case suggests it will only take a 12mm drive. :( -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 18 02:35:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27239 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 May 1994 02:35:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21101; Wed, 18 May 1994 03:15:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 May 1994 03:15:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21087; Wed, 18 May 1994 03:15:26 -0400 Received: from pc161.sv-fak.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP) id <29018-0@alf.uib.no>; Wed, 18 May 1994 09:15:14 +0200 X-Nupop-Charset: Norwegian/Danish Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 09:12:05 +0100 (CET) From: Thor Oivind Jensen Sender: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Message-Id: <33129.soatj@alf.uib.no> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Charging problems Status: OR I finally gave in and bought the too exepensive TP 750C. 90% is functioning perfect, but one problem has occured: *Most of the time (but not always) charging is not possible while using the machine. It tells "charging" but will stand still on the same % no matter how long you try or how hard you run the machine. The battery light will also shift to oranga, no matter how much juice you have left. The first few times and once in a while everything is OK. Any ideas ?? Thor \ivind Jensen Institutt for administrasjon og organisasjonsvitenskap Christiesgt 17 N-5007 BERGEN, Norway ++47 5 212153 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 18 08:41:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00463 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 May 1994 08:41:18 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04387; Wed, 18 May 1994 09:20:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 May 1994 09:20:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tiamat.umd.umich.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04370; Wed, 18 May 1994 09:20:29 -0400 Received: by tiamat.umd.umich.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15627; Wed, 18 May 94 09:19:22 EDT X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 09:22:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Adam Wilkinson" Sender: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Reply-To: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Message-Id: <33747.adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu> To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no, Subject: RE: Charging problems Status: OR In message Wed, 18 May 1994 09:12:05 +0100 (CET), Thor Oivind Jensen writes: > I finally gave in and bought the too exepensive TP 750C. 90% is > functioning perfect, but one problem has occured: > > *Most of the time (but not always) charging is not possible while using > the machine. It tells "charging" but will stand still on the same % no > matter how long you try or how hard you run the machine. The battery > light will also shift to oranga, no matter how much juice you have left. > > The first few times and once in a while everything is OK. > > Any ideas ?? > Thor !ivind Jensen > Institutt for administrasjon og organisasjonsvitenskap > Christiesgt 17 N-5007 BERGEN, Norway > ++47 5 212153 > Thor, It sounds like you may have a hardware problem. Call for service or see your dealer. Adam Wilkinson adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu | "The first time it's research. the second usfmcltc@ibmmail.com | time is just engineering!" - Cliff Stoll Compuserve: 75470,71 | (author of "The Cuckoo's Egg" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 02:01:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29263 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 02:01:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14726; Thu, 19 May 1994 02:46:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 02:46:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14686; Thu, 19 May 1994 02:46:24 -0400 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id JAA15746 for ; Thu, 19 May 1994 09:46:22 +0300 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id JAA15600 for ; Thu, 19 May 1994 09:46:16 +0300 Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 09:46:16 +0300 Message-Id: <199405190646.JAA15600@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: TP360 vs. TP750 X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi! Ii talked to my sales rep. yesterday and he had some release info on the new thinkpads. The DIFFERENCES to a TP750 that I was able to identify were: 360 755 Processor DX33/nomath DX2/50 or DX4/75 (actually their SL enh. variants) Sound Optional built-in mic Display (9.5"-mono) (N/A) (9.5"-Cs 9.5"-Cs) 8.4"-C 10.4"-C Video graphics accelerator Max Mem 36M Disks 170,340,540&810M I'm especially interested in the differences between a TP750-mono and the new 360-mono. I'd buy a TP750-mono, but it is discontinued. I think I'll go for a 360-mono since a mono-LCD is what I wan't. I'd also planned to buy a number of TP750Cs models for my colleques. There I have two options a TP360Cs and a TP755 Cs. Any opinions or differences not listed above. Your comments (and new indormation) are appreciated! Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 06:21:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24608 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 06:20:56 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA21770; Thu, 19 May 1994 06:52:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 06:52:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA21763; Thu, 19 May 1994 06:52:05 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA04528; Thu, 19 May 94 06:51:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 May 94 06:51:43 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405191051.AA04528@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP360 vs. TP750 Status: OR Two interesting questions for TP750 owners will we be able to upgrade to the new 540 and/or 810 meg hard disks? will we be able to upgrade to 36 megs memory (i.e. is this done with a compatible 32 meg card)? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 11:16:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06140 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 11:16:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28711; Thu, 19 May 1994 11:56:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 11:56:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28702; Thu, 19 May 1994 11:56:40 -0400 Received: from mongrel (MONGREL.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA23508; Thu, 19 May 94 10:51:19 CDT Date: Thu, 19 May 94 10:51:19 CDT Message-Id: <9405191551.AA23508@austin.wireline.slb.com> X-Sender: byrne@pigpen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Subject: 32 mbytes of memory for the 750 X-Mailer: Status: OR Good news! It appears that the 750 will support a 32 mbyte card! I just received a 16 mbyte card from Kingston. Inside the box is a letter and parts list which includes a 32 mbyte part: Kingston P/N IBM P/N Description KTM-750/32 A1987A 32MB Memory Upgrade Module The letter specifically says that the memory is for the 750/750C and that system memory can be expanded to a max of 36MB. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 11:44:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13145 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 11:44:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00924; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:13:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:13:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00907; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:13:51 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA08343; Thu, 19 May 94 12:13:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 May 94 12:13:28 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405191613.AA08343@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 32 mbytes of memory for the 750 Status: OR what are current Kingston prices for 16M and 32M From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 12:02:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17925 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 12:02:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03775; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:35:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:35:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03750; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:35:27 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA07399; Thu, 19 May 1994 09:35:12 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id JAA18126; Thu, 19 May 1994 09:35:01 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405191635.JAA18126@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 32 mbytes of memory for the 750 To: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 09:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9405191551.AA23508@austin.wireline.slb.com> from "Wes Byrne" at May 19, 94 10:51:19 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > Good news! It appears that the 750 will support a 32 mbyte card! I just > received a 16 mbyte card from Kingston. Inside the box is a letter and parts > list which includes a 32 mbyte part: > > Kingston P/N IBM P/N Description > > KTM-750/32 A1987A 32MB Memory Upgrade Module > > The letter specifically says that the memory is for the 750/750C and that > system memory can be expanded to a max of 36MB. Great! Now all of you who are going to dump your 16MB modules to go buy a 32MB module, let us know--I'm interested in buying your 16MB module! ;) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 14:44:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28325 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 14:44:12 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20982; Thu, 19 May 1994 15:16:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 15:16:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from genesis.ait.psu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20971; Thu, 19 May 1994 15:16:34 -0400 Received: from [146.186.154.28] (rick.hrrm.psu.edu) by genesis.ait.psu.edu with SMTP id AA25332 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 15:16:27 -0400 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 15:16:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Rick Andrew" Sender: wpa@psu.edu Message-Id: <54987.wpa@email.psu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 32 mbytes of memory for the 750 Status: OR DITTO! ------------------------------ From: Randal Whittle Thu, 19 May 1994 09:35:01 -0700 (PDT) To: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 32 mbytes of memory for the 750 > Great! Now all of you who are going to dump your 16MB modules to go >buy a 32MB module, let us know--I'm interested in buying your 16MB module! ;) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WPA@psu.edu Rick Andrew <*> HRI Finance WPA@psuvm.psu.edu Penn State Univ 814-863-0272 University Park, PA 16802 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 16:46:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28376 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 16:46:40 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08529; Thu, 19 May 1994 17:21:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 17:21:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from oz.geology.washington.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08489; Thu, 19 May 1994 17:21:44 -0400 Received: by oz.geology.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA05593; Thu, 19 May 94 14:07:58 PDT Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 14:00:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor C. Kress" Subject: Hard Disk Upgrade To: Thinkpad Forum Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR The 170 meg and and 340 meg drives are $650 and $1,300 respectively. That works out to about $3.82 per meg. From this we can predict that the 540 meg drive will cost $2,065 and the 810 meg drive will cost $3,097. Start saving your money now! :) -V From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 21:24:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09865 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 21:24:37 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06982; Thu, 19 May 1994 21:46:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 21:46:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06971; Thu, 19 May 1994 21:46:08 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA00385; Thu, 19 May 1994 18:43:05 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 06:46:53 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <24414.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Fw: More questions about the TP750 Status: OR Surprise surprise. Not only can we go up to 36 MB, we can do it without voiding our warranty, and we can do it NOW. :) I haven't been keeping track, but I think the TP755 was just announced (which is why Ken could answer some of our questions on it). I like the hard drive options. :) But I'm sure it'll cost an arm and a leg. :( ------------------------------ From: Ken Inoue Wed, 18 May 94 13:59:02 JST To: "John Kim" Subject: More questions about the TP750 John: My apologies for the delay in getting back to you. As you mentioned, some of your questions just couldn't be answered until today :) and the week before last was a national holiday week (Golden Week) in Japan. Re harddisk power requirement: I am afraid there is no clear-cut answer to this. It all would depend on what the rest of the system might be doing when the harddisk draws peak power... There are multiple fuses in the power subsystem for safety's sake, some of which apply to individual voltage levels such as 3.3V and 5V. The harddisk uses 5V, whereas the panel is directly driven by battery, so I am afraid it won't matter whether you have a mono or a color. Re the plastic housing: I was told that we don't offer it as a separate option precisely because we can't be responsible for any subsequent damage. Sorry. Re the 540MB and 810MB harddisk option: I understand the 750 line will require a Flash BIOS update to support these sizes properly but yes, they do work with the 750 line. You may want to note however that some disk drivers that directly manipulate hardware (like Microsoft Windows for Workgroups' 32 bit FASTDISK driver) may not run on them or see only the first 528MB. Re motherboard upgrade for the 750 line: I am afraid I am not aware of any announcements regarding upgrade to the 755 line or equivalent. I understand it will cost quite a lot because all the boards will have to be swapped (not to mention mechanical changes like improved heat sink). I sure wish Intel offered a clock-doubled 486SL... Re the 20MB memory 'limit': it's just that at the time the 750 was announced, no manufacturers were making 32MB IC DRAM cards. Actually the 750 is designed to take up to 36MB (32MB card + 4MB planar); right now there is a ThinkPad Proven vendor called Apricorn who offers one that works with the 750. You may want to call IBM Direct for details. I hope this answers your questions... Best regards, Ken Inoue -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 20 00:49:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06987 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 May 1994 00:49:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00750; Fri, 20 May 1994 01:23:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 May 1994 01:23:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00743; Fri, 20 May 1994 01:23:10 -0400 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id IAA01535 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 08:23:07 +0300 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id IAA12083 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 08:23:01 +0300 Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 08:23:01 +0300 Message-Id: <199405200523.IAA12083@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: External mouse feature on TP750s X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi! I have tested several mouses (yes, the TrackPoint is great) on both the TP750 and TP350 series. It appears that there is something in the 750s design that makes some mouse designs incompatible. The problem appears when the mouse button is pressed. TP750 respondes to the press only randomly. A double click is really hard to produce. The following mouses has been tested Mouse TP750 (several units) TP350(several units) Logitech Pilot works works Logitech MouseMan don't work works IBM M96F9275 don't work works (logitech design i think) The apparent difference between the twon logitech mouses is that Pilot is rated as 5V 25mA whereas mouseman is 12V 10mA. Can this be the reason or is this yet another design flaw in the 750. Should we generate a TP750 hardware bug list. Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 20 01:42:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12465 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 May 1994 01:42:12 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06354; Fri, 20 May 1994 02:13:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 May 1994 02:13:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06347; Fri, 20 May 1994 02:13:55 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10183; Fri, 20 May 94 02:13:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 May 94 02:13:50 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405200613.AA10183@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, wpa@psu.edu Subject: Re: 32 mbytes of memory for the 750 Status: OR I am interested in selling by 16MB module, as soon as I find out more about the price and availability of the 32MB module. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 20 03:17:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20210 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 May 1994 03:17:12 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18892; Fri, 20 May 1994 03:59:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 May 1994 03:59:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18884; Fri, 20 May 1994 03:59:40 -0400 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.4.3.c) via EUnet id KAA14894; Fri, 20 May 1994 10:00:21 +0200 From: Klaus Eckhoff Date: Fri, 20 May 94 09:58:18 +0200 Message-Id: <9405200758.AA25702@osix.Materna.DE> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: success with SCSI hard disk in TP DOCK I Status: OR Hi all, after waiting about two months I received the internal SCSI kit (66G3513) yesterday. It comes with two trays for 25.4 mm and 19.9 mm disks and the needed SCSI cable. I used a MAXTOR MTX-540SL drive (540MB) and after playing around with terminators I succeeded in running it inside tho dock. I noticed that you have to jumper the drive for "motor start with power", because the SCSI adapter in the dock doesn't send a start command to the drive. After reformatting the drive (was previously installed in an RS/6000) with the SCSI diagnostic comming with the dock, I was able to use it both under DOS and SCO without any problem. --- Klaus Eckhoff, Dr. Materna GmbH, D-44141 Dortmund, Germany, ke@Materna.DE From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 20 04:52:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07601 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 May 1994 04:52:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA28196; Fri, 20 May 1994 05:13:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 May 1994 05:13:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA28189; Fri, 20 May 1994 05:13:51 -0400 Received: from filtroni.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa20407; 20 May 94 10:05 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: External mouse feature on TP750s Date: Fri, 20 May 94 10:01:09 BST Message-Id: <9405201001.aa06493@lopass.filtronic.com> Status: OR double click is really hard to produce. The following mouses has been tested Mouse TP750 (several units) TP350(several units) Logitech Pilot works works Logitech MouseMan don't work works IBM M96F9275 don't work works (logitech design i I have an IBM mini mouse (not sure of the no.) and it works fine on the 750Cs Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 20 11:35:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22424 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 May 1994 11:35:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22831; Fri, 20 May 1994 12:02:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 May 1994 12:02:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nucleus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22811; Fri, 20 May 1994 12:02:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (twkary@localhost) by nucleus.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA02686; Fri, 20 May 1994 10:04:12 -0600 Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 10:04:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Tim Kary Subject: Re: External mouse feature on TP750s To: Antti Kilpinen Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199405200523.IAA12083@aton.abo.fi> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Fri, 20 May 1994, Antti Kilpinen wrote: > Hi! > > I have tested several mouses (yes, the TrackPoint is great) on both the > TP750 and TP350 series. It appears that there is something in the 750s > design that makes some mouse designs incompatible. The problem appears when > the mouse button is pressed. TP750 respondes to the press only randomly. A > double click is really hard to produce. The following mouses has been tested > > Mouse TP750 (several units) TP350(several units) > Logitech Pilot works works > Logitech MouseMan don't work works > IBM M96F9275 don't work works (logitech design i > think) > > The apparent difference between the twon logitech mouses is that Pilot is > rated as 5V 25mA whereas mouseman is 12V 10mA. Can this be the reason or is > this yet > another design flaw in the 750. > > Should we generate a TP750 hardware bug list. > Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) > Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research > Abo Akademi University > DataCity > FIN-20520 Turku > > I have found the same problem. Better results are achieved if the PS/2 port is used. I have been unable to get any mouse to operate through the serial port. I have tried various settings and experimentation with the mousedrv.ini file with 3 different Logitech rodents with so-so results. Yes, I think a bug list might be in order, perhaps as a part of the FAQ. Tim Kary From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 20 12:43:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08708 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 May 1994 12:43:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28582; Fri, 20 May 1994 13:03:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 May 1994 13:03:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28575; Fri, 20 May 1994 13:03:45 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwqsq15213; Fri, 20 May 94 13:03:34 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13402; Fri, 20 May 94 09:58:07 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA13704; Fri, 20 May 94 10:03:49 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07385; Fri, 20 May 94 10:02:05 PDT Date: Fri, 20 May 94 10:02:05 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9405201702.AA07385@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Display gone bad Status: OR Well, it looks like after three months of use our 750C display has gone south. My wife took it on the road last week and when she booted it up one day she said the display was totally messed up, or as she put it "full of gobbldygoop." I haven't seen the condition yet myself, but she reports that the image had a really bad "ghosting" effect and it was full of strange characters. That's about all I could get out of her because she's really not PC or even technically literate by any means (and obviously not on this list :^) The condition went away a day later and now it's back. Someone she works with who also has a 750C said this is a common problem with the model. Anyone else heard or experienced a similar problem? --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 20 14:51:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09395 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 May 1994 14:51:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15119; Fri, 20 May 1994 15:30:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 May 1994 15:30:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15112; Fri, 20 May 1994 15:30:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199405201930.PAA15112@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Fri, 20 May 94 15:25:38 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi all I'm new here. Could someone show me how to find TP750 FAQ? Thanks in advance!:-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 21 03:36:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04731 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 21 May 1994 03:36:45 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08777; Sat, 21 May 1994 04:09:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 21 May 1994 04:09:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08769; Sat, 21 May 1994 04:09:29 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA03890 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 21 May 1994 03:09:11 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405210809.AA03890@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Whoa! To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 03:09:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Holy smokes! I don't read mail for a few days and when I do, it seems like everything's falling apart! We can have 36MB. Our 750C's screen is buggy. We're on the verge of getting a third party hard drive to work! Geez! Well, it's great to get all this info and I assure you all that I'm working hard on incorporating it into the FAQ! So, who wants to sell me their 16mb DRAM card and who wants to buy an 8mb one? :) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 21 07:26:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24546 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 21 May 1994 07:26:38 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11510; Sat, 21 May 1994 08:15:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 21 May 1994 08:15:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11501; Sat, 21 May 1994 08:15:15 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17773; Sat, 21 May 94 08:15:10 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 May 94 08:15:10 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405211215.AA17773@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Whoa! Status: OR Before this big shuffle down of memory can occur, we need to find out the price of 32MB boards! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 23 07:41:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00534 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 23 May 1994 07:41:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02260; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:23:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:23:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02252; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:23:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199405231223.IAA02252@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6995; Mon, 23 May 94 08:21:21 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 6004; Mon, 23 May 94 08:21:19 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (NJE origin KRUCK@WVNVM) by WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7702; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:20:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 08:20:32 EDT From: "Ruckstuhl, Keith E" To: Subject: surge protection Status: OR Hi- I have a TP750 mono, which I carry just about everywhere. I have a surge protector, but I don't know enough about them to know if it is any good or not. I'll list the specs below, please let me know if I'm o.k. or if I should go buy something better. Also, does anyone know of a single (or double, as long as it is small) throughput protector that _also_ has a phone jack? All the ones I have seen have at least six regular plugs, and are too big to fit in my case.... My current surge protector: Max surge: 2500 amps Max volts: 6000 Clamping ratio: 1:2:1 clamping volts: 130 Max clamping volts: 340 10 nanosecond (10x10_-9_) clamp response time max surge dissapation 32 joules 10x1000 microsecond surge (one time, self-restoring 20 joules) Is it sufficient? Thanks, Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 23 07:50:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01004 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 23 May 1994 07:50:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02970; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:30:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:30:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02937; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:30:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199405231230.IAA02937@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7007; Mon, 23 May 94 08:27:58 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 6128; Mon, 23 May 94 08:27:57 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (NJE origin KRUCK@WVNVM) by WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7789; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:27:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 08:27:14 EDT From: "Ruckstuhl, Keith E" To: Subject: multimedia setup Status: OR I have a 750 mono, but the company I work for is about to buy their first real IBMs (they have lots of macintosh). A client of the company wants some stuff written for IBM compatibles, and we need to be able to "take the show on the road". We are currently looking at the 755C and docking station, but I wanted to hear what additional equipment members of this group have, or even your wish list, to give me an idea of what to put on my research list so that I can make competent reccommendations about what to buy. Off the top of my head... I think the 755C, the docking station with a large HD and CD ROM (do I have to buy IBM's, or can I get a triple or 4x spin ROM?), maybe an external sound unit (yamaha or roland), plenty of RAM... any suggestions on what to add to this list (or special considerations) to make the best multimedia presentations possible? Much thanks, Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 23 17:35:36 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26077 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 23 May 1994 17:35:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17349; Mon, 23 May 1994 18:16:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 23 May 1994 18:16:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17307; Mon, 23 May 1994 18:16:32 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com ([153.113.1.1]) by dsd.northrop.com (4.1/Gatemaster-4.1) id AA07269; Mon, 23 May 94 17:26:15 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0q5iB3-0009b1C; Mon, 23 May 94 17:08 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0q5iFH-00000GC; Mon, 23 May 94 17:13 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@bart.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: PCMCIA Ethernet Power Hog! To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 17:13:15 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I installed a 3com 3c589 PCMCIA last weekend in a 750. I would appear that there is no way to put the card in standby. (Though I suspect that the machine can choose not to power up the socket). My requirement is to leave the card in the machine when traveling, but not have powered up. - Does anyone know if when the driver is not loaded, does the card draw minimal power (read much less than 100ma)? - What about other PCMCIA 802.3 card (i.e. IBM's)? Any experience? - When I hot plug the card the machine quits (i.e. screen goes blank and then reboots). It is like the card pulls down the power supply and the machine thinks it was reset. Problem with my 750's DC to DC converter? -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 00:06:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23268 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 00:06:18 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12082; Tue, 24 May 1994 00:52:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 00:52:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12075; Tue, 24 May 1994 00:52:53 -0400 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id HAA25044 for ; Tue, 24 May 1994 07:52:50 +0300 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id HAA18187 for ; Tue, 24 May 1994 07:52:39 +0300 Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 07:52:39 +0300 Message-Id: <199405240452.HAA18187@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: Re: PCMCIA Ethernet Power Hog! X-Mailer: Status: OR >I installed a 3com 3c589 PCMCIA last weekend in a 750. I would appear >that there is no way to put the card in standby. (Though I suspect that >the machine can choose not to power up the socket). My requirement is to >leave the card in the machine when traveling, but not have powered up. > >- Does anyone know if when the driver is not loaded, does the card draw > minimal power (read much less than 100ma)? > >- What about other PCMCIA 802.3 card (i.e. IBM's)? Any experience? > My collegue uses an IBM ethernet card adaptor and leaves it in the TP750s case while travelling. I think the card itself is not a power hog unless the cable is connected to the card. He don't reboot while disconnecting the cable so I think the crd and its drivers are active all the time. Still, he gets 6h battery life. (mono, 4M) hope this helps Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Research Fellow Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University, DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 00:55:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27526 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 00:55:37 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15761; Tue, 24 May 1994 01:33:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 01:33:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc7.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15754; Tue, 24 May 1994 01:33:30 -0400 Message-Id: <9405240444.AA18196@husc7.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@husc.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 00:44:41 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: husc.harvard.edu@husc.harvard.edu (Derek Chan) Subject: Hibernation Problems X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi, I'm running DOS 6.3 (IBM DOS) & the latest firmware upgrade. My TP hangs, reboots, or locks up the _keyboard_ (not the mouse & caps key) after resuming from hibernation. In Windows, for some reason, the hibernation command (from fuel) places the machine in suspend mode. The Fn-F12 combination is not recognized in Windows. I did not use to have problems with hibernation. Now, however, it doesn't seem to work anymore. Ideas anyone???? I have a PCMCIA IBM ethernet card installed too, but hibernation was working earlier when it was installed... Thanks. -- Derek Derek V. Chan | Harvard University | chan4@husc.harvard.edu Biochemistry & Molecular Bio. | Senior - Class of '94 | ======================= ===================== Yale WHO? Don't they make locks? ======================= "You wouldn't be here if you already knew everything. . ." - Organic Chem. TF From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 02:49:07 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04012 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 02:49:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26427; Tue, 24 May 1994 03:09:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 03:09:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26415; Tue, 24 May 1994 03:08:53 -0400 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id KAA26470 for ; Tue, 24 May 1994 10:08:45 +0300 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id KAA21773 for ; Tue, 24 May 1994 10:08:34 +0300 Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 10:08:34 +0300 Message-Id: <199405240708.KAA21773@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: Is a 755-mono possible to build X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi, I need a TP with math-co and a mono screen. Since Tp750-mono is discontinued IBM requires it's customers be more innovative. Actually I want both a 755-mono and a 360Cs (two separate units). Can I (i.e. IBM service) switch the displays of a 360-mono and a 755Cs?. I think the wideo drivers are identical for both color and mono models- how about between 360 and 755 series?. As aresult I would get a 360Cs and a 755-mono. Is anyone on the net familiar with the low level hardware of the TPs?. First, I wan't to know if this is technically possible. Second, I must find someone to do the work so that warranty is not affected) My option is to buy a 360Cs and a 360-mono(instead of the 755-mono) and must suffice w/o math-co. Besides, IBM will loose the price difference of the combinations. Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Research Fellow Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University, DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 03:46:07 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05944 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 03:46:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04626; Tue, 24 May 1994 04:15:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 04:15:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04610; Tue, 24 May 1994 04:15:17 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA05044 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 24 May 1994 03:14:59 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405240814.AA05044@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: surge protection To: KRUCK@wvnvm.bitnet (Ruckstuhl, Keith E) Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 03:14:58 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) In-Reply-To: <199405231223.IAA02252@CS.UTK.EDU> from "Ruckstuhl, Keith E" at May 23, 94 08:20:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR A while back, I saw an ad for a travelling surge protector with phone line protection built-in in Tiger's ads. I don't have the number with me now, but you can probably get it from 800 directory (they're in Florida I think but that shouldn't matter). It seemed like a good deal but I just never got around to buying it. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 10:13:23 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26136 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 10:13:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28018; Tue, 24 May 1994 10:52:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 10:52:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28011; Tue, 24 May 1994 10:52:14 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA19311; Tue, 24 May 1994 07:52:11 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id HAA02318; Tue, 24 May 1994 07:52:10 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405241452.HAA02318@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Hibernation Problems To: husc.harvard.edu@husc.harvard.edu (Derek Chan) Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 07:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9405240444.AA18196@husc7.harvard.edu> from "Derek Chan" at May 24, 94 00:44:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > Hi, I'm running DOS 6.3 (IBM DOS) & the latest firmware upgrade. My TP > hangs, reboots, or locks up the _keyboard_ (not the mouse & caps key) after Doesn't sound good... Speaking of which, can anyone give me a rundown on IBM DOS 6.3 vs. 6.1? What has changed/improved and how (and how much $) does one obtain the upgrade? ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 10:27:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29829 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 10:27:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00285; Tue, 24 May 1994 11:04:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 11:04:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00275; Tue, 24 May 1994 11:04:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199405241504.LAA00275@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Tue, 24 May 94 10:59:50 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: Battery life To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi all, Should I plug out the AC power after charging? Thanx for your opinion! -yc From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 15:22:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24802 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 15:22:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06732; Tue, 24 May 1994 15:55:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 15:55:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cc1.kuleuven.ac.be by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06697; Tue, 24 May 1994 15:55:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199405241955.PAA06697@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from redmond by cc1.kuleuven.ac.be (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 24 May 94 21:54:55 +0200 X-Sender: wimvh@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 21:55:02 +0200 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: wimvh@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be (Wim Van Holder) Subject: My ThinkPad and I X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi there I'm new to this list. I have a Thinkpad 750C with PC DOS 6.3 and QEMM 7.04 installed. I use an IBM Crdeit card Token Ring Adapter to connect to our network. I'm facing severe problems with QEMM and DOS's and Windows' power mamnagement. I had to remove power.exe in my config.sys and install Windows for regular MS-DOS systems instead of "386SL with power management". This prevents the pointer from freezing after suspending in Windows. Hibernation still doesn't work in Windows. It kinda works in DOS, although the screen is corrupted when saving to disk and QEMM gives and exception error after reloading into memory. Anybody found a solution to these problems yet ? Thanks, Wim Van Holder Tel: ++32 (0)16/28.57.16 Katholieke Universiteit Leuven FAX: ++32 (0)16/28.57.99 Faculteit E.T.E.W. Dienst Informatica Naamsestraat 69 B-3000 Leuven E-mail: BELGIUM fdbaq03@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 15:32:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28027 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 15:32:12 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08342; Tue, 24 May 1994 16:07:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 16:07:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hp.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08328; Tue, 24 May 1994 16:07:16 -0400 Received: from hpbs4328.boi.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.36.108.7/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA01821; Tue, 24 May 1994 13:07:13 -0700 Received: by hpbs3943.boi.hp.com (1.37.109.8/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA16197; Tue, 24 May 1994 14:07:13 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 14:07:13 -0600 From: Sandra Capri Message-Id: <9405242007.AA16197@hpbs3943.boi.hp.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Newbie Status: OR Well, the subscription message instructed me to introduce myself, so here goes... Just purchased (well, my company purchased for me) a thinkpad multimedia bundle (750C, 12M RAM, 300M HD, 2.88M floppy, 14kBps modem, docking station with CD-ROM, lots of multimedia s/w installed). External monitor, mouse and keyboard for use at my desk. The Ethernet PCMCIA card is coming. PC-DOS 6.1 + MSWindows 3.1. MKS toolkit added to keep me from losing my mind in the DOS command world :-) Maybe someday I'll install Linux (if I get a different disk). Soon to install DOS/V and Windows 3.1J for Japan. S/W - Framemaker, MS Office, PC-NFS. Me - I'm a firmware engineer for Hewlett-Packard. I do HP-UX normally, but need a portable for work on trips, or general remote places. I just finished a project, HP LaserJet 4PJ, which intro'd in Tokyo last week (hence the reason for loading Japanese Operating systems). I'll shut up now. Sandra Capri internet: sandra_capri@boi.hp.com or: scapri@mail.boi.hp.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 17:52:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03288 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 17:52:04 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24269; Tue, 24 May 1994 18:14:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 18:14:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nucleus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24262; Tue, 24 May 1994 18:14:36 -0400 Received: from localhost (twkary@localhost) by nucleus.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id PAA21132; Tue, 24 May 1994 15:55:32 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 15:55:31 -0600 (MDT) From: Tim Kary Subject: Re: My ThinkPad and I To: Wim Van Holder Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199405241955.PAA06697@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Tue, 24 May 1994, Wim Van Holder wrote: > Hi there > > > I'm new to this list. I have a Thinkpad 750C with PC DOS 6.3 and QEMM 7.04 > installed. I use an IBM Crdeit card Token Ring Adapter to connect to our > network. > > I'm facing severe problems with QEMM and DOS's and Windows' power > mamnagement. I had to remove power.exe in my config.sys and install Windows > for regular MS-DOS systems instead of "386SL with power management". This > prevents the pointer from freezing after suspending in Windows. > > Hibernation still doesn't work in Windows. It kinda works in DOS, although > the screen is corrupted when saving to disk and QEMM gives and exception > error after reloading into memory. > > Anybody found a solution to these problems yet ? > > Thanks, > > Wim Van Holder Tel: ++32 (0)16/28.57.16 > Katholieke Universiteit Leuven FAX: ++32 (0)16/28.57.99 > Faculteit E.T.E.W. > Dienst Informatica > Naamsestraat 69 > B-3000 Leuven E-mail: > BELGIUM fdbaq03@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be Wim: I believe your problem may be with QEMM. I also had installed QEMM on my TP750 Cs and encountered problems. I spent 45 minutes on the telephone (long-distance) with their technical support. No luck on solving all the problems. Some were solved, others arose. The technical people then acknowledged that they have not had good results with their product and IBM's TP series, and that basically their product was not compatible with this hardware - not very reassuring. I've since removed QEMM from my TP and most of the bugs have disappeared. Windows still seems to create some problems. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Kary twkary@nucleus.com 403-262-7021 T.Kary@geis.genie.com 403-262-1392 - FAX Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 20:14:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22917 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 20:14:47 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12172; Tue, 24 May 1994 20:55:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 20:55:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12161; Tue, 24 May 1994 20:55:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199405250055.UAA12161@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Tue, 24 May 94 20:52:05 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: Memory To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi all, Have anyone found out the price of 32M ram? Does anyone want to sell your 16M ram? :-) ...... I want your ram! ;-) -yc From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 06:37:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26173 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 06:37:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28576; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:13:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:13:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28569; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:13:09 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id HAA20200 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:14:51 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E1C7D5; Wed, 25 May 94 07:16:12 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: INCREDIBLE Megahertz ! ! From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.411860.700.0CE1C7D5@channel1.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 94 07:12:00 -0400 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Status: OR Subject: INCREDIBLE Megahertz ! ! It's very easy to make a negative comment, but when a *positive* comment is due.....then it should be yelled from the rooftop! :) As most of you know I have a Megahertz XJ2144 modem. Last Saturday I developed minor interruptions while downloading/uploading. After playing around I discovered it was due to the X-Jack, any movement to the X-Jack while on-line cause a break in the communication. I called ComputAbility (purchased modem there) and got a receptionist who said they were closed. She asked me to leave a voice message, and that someone would contact me Monday morning. She said that it was doubtful that I could exchange the modem since it was a few days over 30 since the purchase was made. At this point I was a bit *pissed*, I looked through the Megahertz manual and found their 800 #. Called.....to my surprise there was someone there ready to help. To make an already long story short, the gentleman there asked me a few questions, then said that I would be receiving a *new* modem sometime Monday and to just send the malfunctioning one back after receiving the new one. I received it Monday as promised, with a postage paid envelope to return the old one! Service like this is VERY rare......I want to publicly APPLAUD Megahertz! Joseph Pereira joseph.pereira@channel1.com ps: This will be my last message for a period of about 5 months. Immigration just hired me for a position as Border Patrol Agent, I'm off to San Diego June 6, then to Glynco, Georgia for training. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 06:43:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26396 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 06:43:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29346; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:20:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:20:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29306; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:20:33 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA08943; Wed, 25 May 94 07:20:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 May 94 07:20:27 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405251120.AA08943@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: joseph.pereira@channel1.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE Megahertz ! ! Status: OR (regarding border patrol) But can't you just buy the cellular gizmo for your TP, then you can give us online reports from the border ... :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 06:46:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26499 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 06:46:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29576; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:21:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:21:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29569; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:21:04 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA08946; Wed, 25 May 94 07:20:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 May 94 07:20:57 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405251120.AA08946@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: joseph.pereira@channel1.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE Megahertz ! ! Status: OR By the way, does anyone *have* the cellular modem (the one that replaces the floppy). What does it do exactly for $1999. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed May 25 11:18:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14383 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 11:18:19 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29773; Wed, 25 May 1994 11:24:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 11:24:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29679; Wed, 25 May 1994 11:24:09 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id IAA08902; Wed, 25 May 1994 08:23:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 08:23:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Arie Litman Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE Megahertz ! ! To: Joseph Pereira Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <40.411860.700.0CE1C7D5@channel1.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR It is nice to hear.... As an owner of a XJ2144 im pleased there is this lvel of service available... Arie Litman voice (408)441-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 25 May 1994, Joseph Pereira wrote: > Subject: INCREDIBLE Megahertz ! ! > > It's very easy to make a negative comment, but when a *positive* comment > is due.....then it should be yelled from the rooftop! :) > > As most of you know I have a Megahertz XJ2144 modem. Last Saturday I > developed minor interruptions while downloading/uploading. After playing > around I discovered it was due to the X-Jack, any movement to the X-Jack > while on-line cause a break in the communication. > > I called ComputAbility (purchased modem there) and got a receptionist > who said they were closed. She asked me to leave a voice message, and > that someone would contact me Monday morning. She said that it was > doubtful that I could exchange the modem since it was a few days over > 30 since the purchase was made. > > At this point I was a bit *pissed*, I looked through the Megahertz > manual and found their 800 #. Called.....to my surprise there was > someone there ready to help. To make an already long story short, the > gentleman there asked me a few questions, then said that I would be > receiving a *new* modem sometime Monday and to just send the > malfunctioning one back after receiving the new one. I received it > Monday as promised, with a postage paid envelope to return the old one! > > Service like this is VERY rare......I want to publicly APPLAUD Megahertz! > > > Joseph Pereira > joseph.pereira@channel1.com > > ps: This will be my last message for a period of about 5 months. > Immigration just hired me for a position as Border Patrol Agent, I'm off > to San Diego June 6, then to Glynco, Georgia for training. > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 12:44:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05742 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 12:43:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12746; Wed, 25 May 1994 13:09:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 13:08:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12726; Wed, 25 May 1994 13:08:52 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwrlc15803; Wed, 25 May 94 13:08:41 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06676; Wed, 25 May 94 10:02:58 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA22123; Wed, 25 May 94 10:08:59 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03544; Wed, 25 May 94 10:06:55 PDT Date: Wed, 25 May 94 10:06:55 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9405251706.AA03544@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Number for AT&T Paradyne Status: OR Anyone have the number for AT&T Paradyne support? My KIT modem died on me last night and their documentation seems to be void of any telephone numbers. Thanks, --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 21:59:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04404 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 21:58:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15774; Wed, 25 May 1994 22:38:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 22:38:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ids.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15767; Wed, 25 May 1994 22:38:24 -0400 From: Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 22:19:19 -0400 (EDT) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <940525221919.35385@ids.net> Subject: Processor Upgrade Status: OR Hi, I'm new to this list so I don't know if this question has been answered yet. Does anyone know if the processor on the TP-750Cs is upgradeable to a DX/2-66. Thanks, Jeff From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 22:27:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07691 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 22:27:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19101; Wed, 25 May 1994 23:08:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 23:08:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19094; Wed, 25 May 1994 23:08:22 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id XAA10998 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 25 May 1994 23:10:10 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E1C93C; Wed, 25 May 94 22:06:05 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE Megahertz From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.413036.700.0CE1C93C@channel1.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 94 21:41:00 -0400 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Status: OR Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE Megahertz ! ! >(regarding border patrol) >But can't you just buy the cellular gizmo for your TP, then you can give >us online reports from the border ... :-) Heheha Communicating from the border is no problem, from the Federal Law Enforcement Training Academy is. Typical Marine type atmosphere! ;) Joseph Pereira joseph.pereira@channel1.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 22:27:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07729 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 22:27:32 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19112; Wed, 25 May 1994 23:08:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 23:08:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19102; Wed, 25 May 1994 23:08:31 -0400 Received: from (BARTLES.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA22944; Wed, 25 May 94 22:03:04 CDT Date: Wed, 25 May 94 22:03:03 CDT Message-Id: <9405260303.AA22944@austin.wireline.slb.com> X-Sender: byrne@pigpen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Subject: Re: Processor Upgrade X-Mailer: Status: OR Yesterday at COMDEX I asked the IBM Thinkpad reps if IBM would offer a 750 upgrade of any kind. The answer - No. I then asked if there was any way to swap out the motherboard. Same answer - No. We're stuck with what we've got. Now, could we do it on our own? I don't know - I've not yet dug far enough into my machine to see if the processor chip is socketed. Has anyone else done so? Upgrading to a DX/2-66 is out because the 750 uses an SL chip. But what about the new 100mhz DX4, which is also a 3.3 volt processor. I wonder if this one could be put in place of the SL33. Anyone know? At 10:19 PM 5/25/94 -0400, NEDRY@ids.net wrote: >Hi, I'm new to this list so I don't know if this question has been answered >yet. Does anyone know if the processor on the TP-750Cs is upgradeable to a >DX/2-66. > >Thanks, >Jeff > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Wes Byrne Schlumberger Austin Systems Center 8311 North FM 620 Road Austin, TX 78726-1300 (512) 331-3411 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 23:53:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18678 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 23:53:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27494; Thu, 26 May 1994 00:20:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 26 May 1994 00:20:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27460; Thu, 26 May 1994 00:20:00 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA14397; Thu, 26 May 94 00:19:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 May 94 00:19:45 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405260419.AA14397@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: NEDRY@ids.net, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com Subject: Re: Processor Upgrade Status: OR one thing that NEC has done right, and IBM has done wrong so far is to build a series of non-upgradable machines. The 755 appears to reverse this mistake to some extent. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 26 03:37:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04036 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 May 1994 03:37:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22377; Thu, 26 May 1994 04:02:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 26 May 1994 04:02:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22359; Thu, 26 May 1994 04:02:53 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA03032 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 26 May 1994 03:02:35 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405260802.AA03032@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Processor Upgrade To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 03:02:34 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9405260419.AA14397@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at May 26, 94 00:19:31 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > one thing that NEC has done right, and IBM has done wrong so far is to build > a series of non-upgradable machines. The 755 appears to reverse this > mistake to some extent. Well, at least we can breathe easily that the latest OS are aimed at our CPU's or below. I imagine the DX4/100 CPU wouldn't work with the TP750 due to pin incompatibilities. Also, I believe someone said that the CPU was soldered into place meaning any exchange is out of the question really. I think the mistake isn't in building non-upgradeable machines but in wasting our screens. At the least, they should offer us the ability to buy a new machine without a screen and put ours in the place. How much could the screen have changed? From jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Thu May 26 08:01:15 1994 Received: from chs.claremont.edu (CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26881 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 May 1994 08:01:10 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA28676; Thu, 26 May 1994 05:58:09 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 18:01:56 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Reply-To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Message-Id: <64916.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: kensan@VNET.IBM.COM, graff@vnet.ibm.com Cc: antti.kilpinen@abo.fi, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Is video on 360 and 755 interchangeable Status: OR One of the members of our TP750 mailing list has an unusual problem. Perhaps you two can help with some definitive answers. Please reply to the following addresses: antti.kilpinen@abo.fi (The person that asked the question) ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The person in charge of the TP750 FAQ) jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu (Me, out of curiousity) Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I need a TP with math-co and a mono screen. Since Tp750-mono is discontinued IBM requires it's customers be more innovative. Actually I want both a 755-mono and a 360Cs (two separate units). Can I (i.e. IBM service) switch the displays of a 360-mono and a 755Cs?. I think the wideo drivers are identical for both color and mono models- how about between 360 and 755 series?. As aresult I would get a 360Cs and a 755-mono. Is anyone on the net familiar with the low level hardware of the TPs?. First, I wan't to know if this is technically possible. Second, I must find someone to do the work so that warranty is not affected) My option is to buy a 360Cs and a 360-mono(instead of the 755-mono) and must suffice w/o math-co. Besides, IBM will loose the price difference of the combinations. Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Research Fellow Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University, DataCity FIN-20520 Turku -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 26 16:26:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10749 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 May 1994 16:26:19 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21071; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:34:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:34:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21053; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:33:59 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id OAA19331; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:32:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199405261832.OAA19331@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: Sean Chou Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp), moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Processor Upgrade In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 26 May 1994 03:02:34 CDT." <199405260802.AA03032@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 14:32:39 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR > I think the mistake isn't in building non-upgradeable machines > but in wasting our screens. At the least, they should offer > us the ability to buy a new machine without a screen and put > ours in the place. How much could the screen have changed? Well, I keep hoping someone will build a laptop with a 1024x768 screen. That would be enough to get me to upgrade. 640x480 is pretty painful. (I guess either BriteLite or RDI makes one, but it's very expensive.) Keith From halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu Thu May 26 22:38:35 1994 Received: from gwis.circ.gwu.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03535 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 May 1994 22:38:31 -0500 Received: (halinatr@localhost) by gwis.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.5) id XAA28249; Thu, 26 May 1994 23:38:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 23:34:31 -0400 (EDT) From: darren mccabe Subject: 2BT Ethernet adapter To: Sean Chou Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199404281639.AA20566@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Ok, I should have been paying attention when all of you were talking about the $99 Ethernet Adapter PCMCIA card, but I was using a 10BT card. I have chanced jobs, and of course, need a new card. Left the toehr behind (wasn't mine) but now I need to buy one. Is that deal still on, is it what I want? or do you have any other suggestions? Also, what is the status of the third party TP drive insertion? I'm dying to know. And is the 1 gig HD available for the Dock 1 yet? Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Darren Patrick McCabe "Hal" | Mail: Halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu ------------------------------ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 27 07:23:01 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23404 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 May 1994 07:22:59 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13555; Fri, 27 May 1994 07:51:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 May 1994 07:51:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ftp.std.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13548; Fri, 27 May 1994 07:51:53 -0400 Received: from world.std.com by ftp.std.com (8.6.8.1/Spike-8-1.0) id OAA04554; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:14:32 -0400 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA20251; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:14:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 14:14:30 -0400 From: eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell) Message-Id: <199405261814.AA20251@world.std.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Office 4.2 Problem Status: OR Hello All, We are trying to install Office 4.2 on a IBM Thinkpad 750c and there are error messages "Top level INF Parser: Bad DLL data value" and "Processing top level info failed". The Thinkpad is using PCDOS 6.1 and Windows 3.1. Another thinkpad had the same problem, but a desktop system with MSDOS 6.2 and Windows 3.1 worked fine. One thing I noticed is that a temporary directory is created on the desktop system that contains the office setup program and files uncompressed from Disk A. The thinkpads do not have this temporary directory when the error message comes up. 73 Eric CIS:76327,515 eac@world.std.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 27 11:00:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26936 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 May 1994 11:00:53 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01364; Fri, 27 May 1994 11:26:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 May 1994 11:26:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01356; Fri, 27 May 1994 11:26:35 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA03021; Fri, 27 May 1994 08:26:31 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA00860; Fri, 27 May 1994 08:26:29 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405271526.IAA00860@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 2BT Ethernet adapter To: halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu (darren mccabe) Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 08:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "darren mccabe" at May 26, 94 11:34:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > > Ok, > I should have been paying attention when all of you were talking > about the $99 Ethernet Adapter PCMCIA card, but I was using a 10BT card. I > have chanced jobs, and of course, need a new card. Left the toehr behind > (wasn't mine) but now I need to buy one. Is that deal still on, is it what > I want? or do you have any other suggestions? I think the 3Com PCMCIA Ethernet adaptor is the best thing since sliced bread. :) The promotion is still on: $99 for a 10-BaseT only and $129 for a combo (which is the same 10BaseT Card and cable, but also with a Coax "tail" to attach to the card in place of the twisted-pair one). If you have *any* doubt that you might need the coax, just fork over the extra $30 and get it. Because if you don't do it now (under the promotion), then you'll have to buy it (the coax connector) as an additional part later on--and that part alone costs $99! 3Com can be reached at 800/638-3266. You'll push 2, then 1, and then you need to ask for Promotions. If you are interested, I think they also have their Etherlink III ISA/EISA/MC cards for desktop computers at promotional prices too--$99 for 2 of them, regardless of type (10BaseT, Coax, or Combo--I got the Combos just to be safe and flexible). ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 29 11:47:25 1994 Received: from CS-PRIME.CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08514 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 29 May 1994 11:47:18 -0500 Received: from localhost by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04968; Sun, 29 May 1994 12:06:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 29 May 1994 12:06:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hk.super.net by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04961; Sun, 29 May 1994 12:05:59 -0400 Received: by hk.super.net id AA06548 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 30 May 1994 00:05:27 +0800 Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 00:05:27 +0800 From: "Mr. Tony K Ng" Message-Id: <199405291605.AA06548@hk.super.net> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi all, I am trying to get the TP750 system diskettes upgrades. But I can not get the exact filenames. Please help!? Files I see from this mail list Files I found instead ================== ===================== UT750121.exe same file AU750110.exe Aftps130.exe VI750112.exe Vftps130.exe SY750104.exe S750104a.exe MA750100.exe MT750110.exe Could somebody give me some hints please? Thanks -Tony From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 30 12:38:11 1994 Received: from CS-PRIME.CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15015 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 May 1994 12:37:52 -0500 Received: from localhost by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13332; Mon, 30 May 1994 12:36:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 May 1994 12:36:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tiamat.umd.umich.edu by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13325; Mon, 30 May 1994 12:36:04 -0400 Received: by tiamat.umd.umich.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00313; Sun, 29 May 94 23:34:21 EDT X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 23:34:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Adam Wilkinson" Sender: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Reply-To: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Message-Id: <84879.adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu> To: tonyng@HK.Super.NET, Subject: RE: Status: OR In message Mon, 30 May 1994 00:05:27 +0800, "Mr. Tony K Ng" writes: > > > Hi all, > > I am trying to get the TP750 system diskettes upgrades. But I > can not get the exact filenames. Please help!? > > Files I see from this mail list Files I found instead > ================== ===================== > UT750121.exe same file > AU750110.exe Aftps130.exe > VI750112.exe Vftps130.exe > SY750104.exe S750104a.exe > MA750100.exe MT750110.exe > > Could somebody give me some hints please? > > Thanks > -Tony > Tony, I suspect the confusion is due to two things. The first is the upgrade of some of the disks. IBM recently released additional BIOS fixes as System Disk v1.04a, thus the S750104A.EXE. The changes in the Audio and Video Features Diskettes coincide with the release of the 755 and 360 lines, which are similar enough to the 750 (which, incidentally is discontinued, or soon will be) that they three families share the same diskettes. Adam Wilkinson adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu | "The first time it's research. the second usfmcltc@ibmmail.com | time is just engineering!" - Cliff Stoll Compuserve: 75470,71 | (author of "The Cuckoo's Egg" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 30 13:21:50 1994 Received: from CS-PRIME.CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20878 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 May 1994 13:21:40 -0500 Received: from localhost by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12950; Mon, 30 May 1994 11:31:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 May 1994 11:31:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12943; Mon, 30 May 1994 11:31:51 -0400 From: Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0q89Om-0004tyC; Mon, 30 May 94 10:37 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0q89Bo-0009b1C; Mon, 30 May 94 10:23 CDT Received: from atfs0 by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0q89KH-000Bh1C; Mon, 30 May 94 10:32 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: PCMCIA Ethernet Power Hog! To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 10:30:07 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405300521.IAA04918@aton.abo.fi> from "Antti Kilpinen" at May 30, 94 08:21:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: strat@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR > FYI, I just talked to my colleague and indeed, he reboots the machine without > loading the network application software into the memory. Apparently, the > card isn't active although it remains plugged. Sorry for the misleading info. Turns out that if the card is not enabled (ready), power is not applied to the socket. I returned the 3com card and purchased an IBM card. In general it works fire, but there are still compatibility problems with other software. Using the most current version of the Thinkpad utils (v1.3), the machine hangs most of the time upon boot when the card is installed. Version 1.21 of the util disk PCMCIA drivers function correctly. When ever the card is installed and recognized by V1.21 and V1.3 PCMCIA card/socket services, stacker 4.0 can't deal with the situation. Mostly dos can't find a command.com. I pulled stacker off of the system. A side note that uncompressing a drive with stacker 4 left some files corrupted. All of my problems occur without any network software loaded and in fact without the card enabled. Just recognized by the PCMCIA drivers. Time to complain to IBM, again. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 30 14:18:42 1994 Received: from CS-PRIME.CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28571 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 May 1994 14:18:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14624; Mon, 30 May 1994 14:34:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 May 1994 14:34:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nic.hookup.net by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14617; Mon, 30 May 1994 14:34:05 -0400 Received: from vetter.hookup.net (vetter.hookup.net [198.133.162.55]) by nic.hookup.net (8.6.9/1.169) with SMTP id OAA26484; Mon, 30 May 1994 14:21:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199405301821.OAA26484@nic.hookup.net> X-Sender: vetter@hookup.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 14:23:26 +0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: vetter@hookup.net (Tim Vetter) Subject: Some PCMCIA cards hate IBM drivers X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi folks, I've been running a GVC FM144 PCMCIA FaxModem for a few months now, and until now have been very happy with it. It was $75 cheaper than the Megahertz, includes MNP10 capability, and has shown great tolerance for noisy phone lines. The problem is I have been using GVC's standalone DOS driver in lieu of IBM's standard socket/card services driver set. Now I'm considering adding an Ethernet card, and I want to start using the standard drivers so I don't suffer TSR proliferation (not to mention, I like the idea of not having to reset the machine after suspend to recover card function!). Loaded the latest version of EZPlay and accompanying socket/card services (downloaded from IBM BBS yesterday) for DOS and Windows, and observed the following: EZPlay detects the presence/absence of my modem card, but reports its status as "Not Ready", the card type as "Memory", and nothing for card information. I've contacted GVC tech support and they say the IBM drivers are no good, while IBM support says the GVC card doesn't follow the PCMCIA standard. It's a classic case of vendor support Catch-22. So, has anyone out there encountered similar problems getting IBM's socket/card services to recognize a card? All I hear about in the group is how perfect the plug-and-play is, surely I'm not the only one who's had headaches ... ? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Vetter 73 Warren Road, Kitchener, Ontario N2M4T6 CANADA vetter@hookup.net voice 519-579-9904 fax 519-571-9520 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 30 21:36:57 1994 Received: from cs.cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26809 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 May 1994 21:36:55 -0500 Received: from localhost by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01067; Mon, 30 May 1994 19:49:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 May 1994 19:49:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ids.net by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01030; Mon, 30 May 1994 19:49:18 -0400 From: Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 18:43:23 -0400 (EDT) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <940530184323.4fa1@ids.net> Subject: Sound Support Status: OR Can anyone tell me if the TP750 supports midi or is it just Wav audio? jeff From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 31 19:45:52 1994 Received: from cs.cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07888 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 31 May 1994 19:45:50 -0500 Received: from localhost by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22568; Tue, 31 May 1994 20:04:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 31 May 1994 20:04:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gwis.circ.gwu.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22561; Tue, 31 May 1994 20:04:04 -0400 Received: (halinatr@localhost) by gwis.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.5) id UAA19402; Tue, 31 May 1994 20:04:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 19:58:26 -0400 (EDT) From: darren mccabe Subject: PC DOS 6.3 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199404281639.AA20566@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR All- Is there anyone out there who recently switched from PC DOS 6.1 to PC DOS 6.3, and can tell me what the differences are aside from the RAMBOOST upgrade? I was mulling it over in the store today, and it really didn't seem to apply for the most part because: I'm currently not using PCMCIA Cards I use Stacker, not SSTOR I Don't do regular backups, or schedule. So what are the advantages? Does anyone know? I know the multi-boot feature of ramboost is the key reason for me to switch, but aside from that, do anyone know why? 0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Darren Patrick McCabe "Hal" | Mail: Halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu ------------------------------ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 31 21:00:57 1994 Received: from cs.cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18816 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 31 May 1994 21:00:55 -0500 Received: from localhost by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02051; Tue, 31 May 1994 21:32:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 31 May 1994 21:32:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ids.net by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02044; Tue, 31 May 1994 21:32:37 -0400 From: Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 21:31:26 -0400 (EDT) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <940531213126.8122@ids.net> Subject: Memory and PCMCIA cards Status: OR Anyone know where I can get a list of cards supported by the IBM card Manager? Also, is the memory chips used in the 750 series the same as those used in the 755 series? I know it isn't very accurate but can anyone tell me what there systeminfo speed rating is for thier Thinkpad 750. Jeff