From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 1 01:55:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26018 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 1 Mar 1994 01:55:19 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id CAA27011; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 02:31:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 02:31:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jarthur.cs.hmc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id CAA27004; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 02:31:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199403010731.CAA27004@CS.UTK.EDU> Subject: AT&T KIT modem To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 23:31:26 PST From: "John H. Kim" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR Has anybody encountered strange behavior with their AT&T KIT modem? Specifically, it not taking up a serial port (according to various DOS utilities), not sending characters to the screen (echo works, but 'at' doesn't give an OK, although 'atdt' gives a dial tone), dials ok but refuses to accept keystrokes once connected? I'm using it right now but only after trying to connect about 30 times. I'm not sure if the problem went away or I got lucky. I'm also not sure what caused the problem. The only things I changed since when it was working fine was disabling the external serial port and fiddling with the pcmciaon/off DOS utilities. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 1 16:31:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01083 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:31:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA05498; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:56:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:56:21 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA05486; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:56:19 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14056; Tue, 1 Mar 94 13:53:54 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12624; Tue, 1 Mar 94 13:52:09 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12903; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 18:35:22 +0800 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 18:35:22 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403010235.AA12903@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: SCHUMANN@macc.wisc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Introducing... me In-Reply-To: <24022820112637@vms.macc.wisc.edu> References: <24022820112637@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Status: OR > Yamaha CBX-T3 tone generator / MIDI interface I'm not familiar with this; where does it plug in to the thinkpad? I'm looking for a decent MIDI interface for the TP. > Coolest pen app: Minesweeper (sigh) That's pretty ironic, since minesweeper isn't very useful with the trackpoint, unless you never use the 2-button-clear feature (but then your times really suck). > I'll just lurk for a while if that's ok... Ha! Time's up! ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 1 16:44:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06808 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:44:10 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id RAA06721; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 17:12:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 17:12:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id RAA06714; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 17:12:52 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA22164 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:12:41 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403012212.AA22164@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: AT&T KIT modem To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:12:40 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403010731.CAA27004@CS.UTK.EDU> from "John H. Kim" at Feb 28, 94 11:31:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Has anybody encountered strange behavior with their AT&T KIT modem? I haven't had any problem that didn't seem to be due to software; that is, once I changed software, all was fine. I wonder what those pcmciaon.exe and pcmciaof.exe are? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 1 18:53:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25489 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 1 Mar 1994 18:53:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA14644; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 19:24:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 19:24:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms.macc.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA14634; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 19:24:41 -0500 Received: from VMSmail by vms.macc.wisc.edu; Tue, 01 Mar 94 18:24 CDT Message-Id: <24030118241845@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Mar 94 18:24 CDT From: Chris Schumann Subject: New PCMCIA drivers & MegaHertz modem To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Status: OR Well, I got the new PCMCIA drivers from IBM, but I'm afraid I'll have to call Megahertz after I install them. The first time, I had to call and they had me REMOVE one of those four gizmos in the config.sys. Anyone made the jump? chris ps. Any other pen owners? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 1 20:33:26 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29481 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 1 Mar 1994 20:33:23 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA20661; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 20:52:30 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 20:52:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA20653; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 20:52:27 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22920; Tue, 1 Mar 94 17:52:28 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14783; Tue, 1 Mar 94 17:51:23 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13561; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 17:06:46 +0800 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 17:06:46 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403020106.AA13561@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: SCHUMANN@macc.wisc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New PCMCIA drivers & MegaHertz modem In-Reply-To: <24030118241845@vms.macc.wisc.edu> References: <24030118241845@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Status: OR > Well, I got the new PCMCIA drivers from IBM, > but I'm afraid I'll have to call Megahertz > after I install them. Are you having a problem? If so, you didn't say what it was. I'm using the IBM drivers and the Megahertz XJ1144 modem. Works fine. Here's what I've got in my config.sys when I boot with the modem: DEVICE=C: \windows\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=C: \windows\emm386.exe frame=d000 x=b000-caff ram 512 DEVICEhigh=C: \THINKPAD\IBMDSS01.SYS /S0=2 DEVICEhigh=C: \THINKPAD\IBMDOSCS.SYS /W DEVICEhigh=C: \THINKPAD\DICRMU01.SYS /MA=C000-CAFF DEVICEhigh=C: \THINKPAD\$ICPMDOS.SYS DEVICEhigh=C: \THINKPAD\AUTODRV.SYS C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.INI devicehigh=c: \dos\power.exe I don't know what the /W switch does when loading the card services driver. [ Actually the PCMCIA drivers don't load high since I don't have enough upper memory available. In theory I could trim some more high memory but this works for now. ] My autoexec.bat has megahz s2c2 This is the IBM faxmodem driver, supposedly hacked by Megahertz. I got it off the Megahertz BBS. +1 801 320-8840. EasyPlay doesn't seem to know that the card is a modem, but the modem still works fine. I don't have the EasyPlay docs 'cuz they aren't on the IBM BBS, don't seem to be available for FTP, and I don't have a Compuserve account. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 1 20:54:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07263 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 1 Mar 1994 20:54:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA23025; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 21:30:05 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 21:30:04 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pinyon.libre.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA22996; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 21:30:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (flyer@localhost) by pinyon.libre.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) id TAA07637; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 19:22:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 19:17:52 -0700 (MST) From: Steve Gross Subject: PCMCIA Modem fault To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I am using an IBM High Speed PCMCIA Modem. If I enter the hibernation mode, the modem is not useable upon resuming operation. If I enter the suspend mode, the PC Card power light above the keyboard extinguishes, indicating no power to the PC Card. The modem will still operate. Any Comments? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 1 21:17:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15616 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 1 Mar 1994 21:17:11 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA24914; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 21:55:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 21:55:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA24901; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 21:55:37 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8c-UTK) id VAA16249; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 21:46:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199403020246.VAA16249@wilma.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: netbsd 0.9 on a thinkpad 750 -- status report From: Keith Moore Date: Tue, 01 Mar 1994 21:46:21 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Well, I've finally given up on Linux and installed NetBSD 0.9 on my TP750. It took a bit of hacking to get it running -- mostly fixing the bootstrap code and kernel to work with the 2.88 Mb floppy. Also the keyboard handling code. At present I have the system running, but X windows doesn't work (problems with the ps/2 mouse driver). Also, for now I'm using an old WD8003E ethernet card in the Dock 1, because I haven't gotten my pcmcia ethernet driver working yet on NetBSD. Has anyone else here heard of someone running NetBSD on a TP750? ------------ The list has grown a bit, so I'll renew my request for good technical information on this beast. The TP750 tech ref manual mostly lists connector pinouts and voltages -- nothing that you need to program the thing. It's been really difficult to get information out of IBM's help line. Things I'd like to know about: 1. what's different about the floppy drive? what gap values, etc, are used for 2.88 Mb drives, and why does the drive change line act differently? 2. what does the power switch do? under linux, it didn't work at all. (does it generate a keyboard scan code or something?) 3. how do I read the battery capacity froma program? 4. how do I slow down/speed up the cpu from the kernel? 5. how can I turn the display backlight off/on? 6. how to switch (from a program) between internal and external display? 7. How do I tell the serial port to be a com1/com2/whatever? (are there POS registers? same as for a TP720, or different?) 8. How do I program the SCSI controller in a dock 1. Is it compatible with any ISA bus card? 9. how do I program the sound ports? somebody told me that the tp750 uses an AD1848K chip, can anyone confirm? The tp750's i/o address map lists 4 blocks of 16 registers each to access the audio subsystem, but the AD1848K chip only has 4 registers total. I gather that the audio subsystem can be mapped into i/o space at any of the four locations: 0x30-0x3f, 0x4e30-0x4e3f, 0x8e30-0x8e3f, and 0xce30-0xce3f. How does one set or change which of these is used? Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 1 22:43:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16975 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 1 Mar 1994 22:43:27 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id XAA29639; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 23:11:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 23:11:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id XAA29632; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 23:11:53 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15460; Tue, 1 Mar 94 20:11:56 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12031; Tue, 1 Mar 94 13:46:47 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12948; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 19:04:30 +0800 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 19:04:30 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403010304.AA12948@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: James_Grant@novell.com Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Num Lock Off In-Reply-To: <9402282240.AA04767@stealth.test.NPD.Provo.Novell.COM> References: <9402282240.AA04767@stealth.test.NPD.Provo.Novell.COM> Status: OR > Is there a way to set Num Lock to off other than by using a DOS command? Try any of these from oak.oakland.edu:/pub/msdos/keyboard kbreset.zip B 407 871129 Reset keyboard capslock & numlock to off lock-off.zip B 953 890419 Turn off keyboard NumLock/ScrollLock/CapsLock locks.zip B 3748 901231 Pgms to set/change Caps, Num or Scroll locks num-off.asm A 413 880510 Turn numlock off numlock.zip B 9479 870413 Enable NUMLOCK key from batch file or DOS toggle.zip B 1809 880223 Turns on/off Caps, Num & Scroll Lock togkey.zip B 4666 880124 Turn Ctrl, other keys to toggles There are probably more but why look? :-) ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 09:09:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07941 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:09:13 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id JAA17926; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:41:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:41:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id JAA17908; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:41:47 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA22110 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 94 09:31:27 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id E179DC; Wed, 2 Mar 94 09:05:05 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Microsoft Dos 6.2 From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.315116.700.0CE179DC@channel1.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 07:54:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Microsoft Dos 6.2 Greetings.... I hope this doesn't sound like a ridiculous question, but, must I have IBM Dos as an Operating system on the 750c? Or, can I use Microsoft Dos 6.2? How does the installation take place...do I delete IBM Dos and reboot the system with Microsoft Dos 6.2 diskette in the drive? Thanks, Joseph From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 09:35:17 1994 Received: from ux1.cso.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17384 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:35:15 -0600 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by ux1.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18663 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 06:10:04 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id GAA04941; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 06:45:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 06:45:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id GAA04927; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 06:45:06 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27882; Wed, 2 Mar 94 03:45:11 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19036; Wed, 2 Mar 94 03:44:06 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA14168; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 03:44:52 +0800 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 03:44:52 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403021144.AA14168@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Using QEMM on the tp750 (from Quarterdeck) Status: OR Just found this on qdeck.com's FTP area. ..bob ID: TH IBM's Thinkpad 750/750C and QEMM Quarterdeck Technical Note #198 Filename: THINKP.TEC by Tom Bortels CompuServe: THINKP.TEC Last revised: 02/08/94 Category: HW Subject: How to configure QEMM for IBM's Thinkpad computers. Here are the recommended QEMM 7 settings for IBM Thinkpad 750/750C problems. These recommendations may also apply to other computers in the Thinkpad family. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Problem: Adding the RAM parameter to my QEMM386.SYS line in my CONFIG.SYS causes my Thinkpad to hang after 10-15 seconds. Solution: Add XBDA:L to the QEMM386.SYS line Explanation: The eXtended BIOS Data Area (XBDA) is a data area normally located at the top of conventional memory, just below the 640K mark. This memory is used to hold BIOS-specific information. By default, QEMM will relocate this XBDA, reclaiming the conventional memory it uses and allowing programs such as VIDRAM to extend conventional memory past 640K. On the Thinkpad, this relocation can result in a crash when the Thinkpad operating system writes data intended for the XBDA into the wrong place. Using the XBDA:L parameter will solve this problem, by telling QEMM to move the XBDA to low conventional memory. The only drawback to using XBDA:L is the loss of 1K of conventional memory. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Problem: Sometimes QEMM can't tell what addresses the Thinkpad PCMCIA card is using. Symptoms of this are trouble loading programs high, and hangs or odd behavior by TSRs/Device-drivers or the PCMCIA cards themselves. Solution: Exclude the upper memory range where the PCMCIA card is mapped. The address range should be very easy to find, because a properly configured PCMCIA card should have a line in your CONFIG.SYS file that specifies the correct address. See the explanation below. Explanation: The Thinkpad includes slots for PCMCIA cards; these cards will take up up from 0 to 64K of upper memory addressing space, which must be eXcluded from QEMM's use. There is no guarantee that QEMM's autodetection will see the region. If your PCMCIA card is properly configured, there should be a line in your CONFIG.SYS that loads a driver called DICRMU01.SYS; this driver is the resource map utility, which tells the adapter card (among other things) what area of memory it is to use. Check that line for a /MA= parameter; this parameter will be followed by the ranges of memory to exclude with the X= parameter on the QEMM386.SYS line. An example will best illustrate how to do this: If your CONFIG.SYS file has a DICRMU01.SYS line with /MA=D000-D3FF, you would need to add X=D000-D3FF to the end of your QEMM386.SYS device line in your CONFIG.SYS file. Some information on the DICRMU01.SYS driver and on using PCMCIA adapter cards with software EMS providers such as QEMM can be found on pages 2-13 of the IBM Thinkpad 750/750C user's guide. For further information: The QEMM Analysis procedure will help you if you need to confirm what addresses need to be excluded because your hardware is using them. It is discussed in Appendix A of the QEMM manual, under the heading, "Solving a memory conflict with the Analysis procedure." The general technote TROUBLE.TEC is a useful source of other problem-solving suggestions; most QEMM users have a copy of TROUBLE.TEC in the TECHNOTE subdirectory. ************************************************************************ *This technical note may be copied and distributed freely as long as it* *is distributed in its entirety and it is not distributed for profit. * * Copyright (C) 1994 by Quarterdeck Office Systems * ************************ E N D O F F I L E ************************* From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 12:07:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20751 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:07:04 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id MAA03283; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:40:13 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:40:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jarthur.cs.hmc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id MAA03276; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:40:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199403021740.MAA03276@CS.UTK.EDU> Subject: Re: Microsoft Dos 6.2 To: Joseph Pereira Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 9:40:04 PST From: "John H. Kim" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <40.315116.700.0CE179DC@channel1.com>; from "Joseph Pereira" at Mar 2, 94 7:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR > Greetings.... > I hope this doesn't sound like a ridiculous question, but, must I have > IBM Dos as an Operating system on the 750c? > > Or, can I use Microsoft Dos 6.2? My friend tried it on a TP350 and ran into EMM386 problems and hangs, even with a config.sys/autoexec.bat identical to the one he was using under IBM-DOS 6.1. That the autoexec.bat was identical didn't really matter since I traced the hang to the config.sys. Sorry, I don't remember where although I know there were problems with EMM386. > How does the installation take place...do I delete IBM Dos and reboot the > system with Microsoft Dos 6.2 diskette in the drive? Leave IBM DOS there and install MS-DOS 6.2. It'll put IBM DOS in an Old DOS directory, which lets you restore it if anything goes wrong. When installing 6.2, it'll ask you for a formatted diskette to put some backup info on. Make sure you do this. That way if you run across the same problems I did and can't figure it out, you can go back to IBM DOS. If you want to move to 6.2 for the disk doubler app (or whatever it's called, the thing that works like Stacker), you might have missed some recent news. Stacker won its lawsuit against Microsoft, and Microsoft failed to get a delay, so effective immediately Microsoft has removed disk doubler from all new DOS 6.2 packages (the old ones in the stores are unchanged). I don't know what this means in terms of support for disk doubler in the future. The usual procedure is for Microsoft to pay the fine ($120 million, more than 3 times as much as Stacker made two years ago), then negotiate a deal with Stacker to use the patent, then put disk doubler back. You could see a price increase though to help cover the extra cost. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 12:30:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02043 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:30:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id MAA04353; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:55:22 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:55:21 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from bos1a.delphi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id MAA04345; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:55:19 -0500 From: Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #6311) id <01H9HWLD2JSG8ZIPLF@delphi.com>; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:54:45 EST Date: Wed, 02 Mar 1994 12:54:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: New subscriber To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01H9HWLD2JSI8ZIPLF@delphi.com> X-Vms-To: INTERNET"TP750@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR I recently acquired a 750C. Added 16Meg for total 20meg ram & am using a Maxtor 250 meg 2.5" notebook drive (inside the original 170 meg drive's case). I also picked up the Dock I with CDROM II. I am running OS 2.1 (just added CSD for ver 2.11). In general I am thrilled with the machine, but have a few complaints. Maybe someone has some solutions... 1) $1299 price for 340 meg IBM drive. Any 3rd party vendors for hardisk drives for ThinkPad? I'd like to get larger than 340 meg but someone at IBM said the bios wouldn't support that. Is this a fact? 2) Audio driver for virtual Dos windows is kind of lame. I get machine hangs and fatal errors in the TPAUDD driver. Is there a better driver in the works? 3) After the CSD install PMComm video gets screwed and my PCMCIA modem will no longer connect reliably. Also I have to load the com.sys driver before pcmcia.sys to get the modem to respond at all even though the readme with the CSD says to load it after. All and all a great machine.... -Teresa From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 13:56:44 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11476 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 13:56:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA09689; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:17:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:17:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jarthur.cs.hmc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA09679; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:16:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199403021916.OAA09679@CS.UTK.EDU> Subject: Re: New subscriber To: TERESASELLIN@delphi.com Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 11:16:32 PST From: "John H. Kim" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: ; from "TERESASELLIN@delphi.com" at Mar 2, 94 12:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR > I recently acquired a 750C. Added 16Meg for total 20meg ram & am > using a Maxtor 250 meg 2.5" notebook drive (inside the original > 170 meg drive's case). Nice to know this can be done. Did IBM give you any ideas how one might go about getting another case so you can still use the 170 meg drive? I couldn't get the tech people to believe that the case was just a housing around a real hard drive. Anything you had to be careful about when opening the case? Any settings you had to change? > In general I am thrilled with the machine, but have a few complaints. > Maybe someone has some solutions... > > 1) $1299 price for 340 meg IBM drive. Any 3rd party vendors for > hardisk drives for ThinkPad? I'd like to get larger than 340 meg > but someone at IBM said the bios wouldn't support that. Is > this a fact? Actualy, does anything anything about this bios? Somebody on this list bought the tech manual. Does that include any info on the bios? And last time I asked, there weren't any 3rd party hard drives that were Thinkpad Approved. Are you having any problems with the Maxtor? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 14:09:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17610 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:09:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA11876; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:44:54 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:44:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA11848; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:44:45 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA21668; Wed, 2 Mar 94 14:44:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 14:44:40 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403021944.AA21668@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jokim@jarthur.NYU.EDU, joseph.pereira@channel1.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Dos 6.2 Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR If you must use MS DOS 6.2, perhaps the best approach would be to avoid using EMM, and instead use QEMM with the special TP750 fixes as clearly documented by Quarterdeck. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 14:21:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23835 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:21:37 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA12777; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:55:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:55:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA12739; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:55:17 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8c-UTK) id OAA19889; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:45:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199403021945.OAA19889@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: "John H. Kim" Cc: TERESASELLIN@delphi.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New subscriber In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 02 Mar 1994 11:16:32 PST." <199403021916.OAA09679@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 1994 14:45:57 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR > Actualy, does anything anything about this bios? Somebody on this list > bought the tech manual. Does that include any info on the bios? there's nothing at all in the tech ref manual about the bios. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 14:23:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24518 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:23:16 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA12190; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:49:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:49:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA12183; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:49:11 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21670; Wed, 2 Mar 94 11:42:47 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17040; Wed, 2 Mar 94 11:41:44 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA14318; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 11:42:21 +0800 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 11:42:21 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403021942.AA14318@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: TERESASELLIN@delphi.com Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New subscriber In-Reply-To: <01H9HWLD2JSI8ZIPLF@delphi.com> References: <01H9HWLD2JSI8ZIPLF@delphi.com> Status: OR > I'd like to get larger than 340 meg but someone at IBM said the bios > wouldn't support that. Is this a fact? I'd be surprised. The TP BIOS probably has the same limit as any other BIOS - just over 500 MB. I know IBM has a 500+ MB drive coming out very soon, but don't know anything about pricing. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 15:00:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12717 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 15:00:20 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA16141; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 15:34:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 15:34:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from genesis.ait.psu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA16134; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 15:34:15 -0500 Received: from [128.118.73.39] (ppp39.cac.psu.edu) by genesis.ait.psu.edu with SMTP id AA03506 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 15:34:01 -0500 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 15:34:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Rick Andrew" Sender: wpa@psu.edu Message-Id: <56059.wpa@email.psu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Microsoft Dos 6.2 Status: OR In message Wed, 2 Mar 94 07:54:00 -0500, joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) writes: > Subject: Microsoft Dos 6.2 > > Greetings.... > I hope this doesn't sound like a ridiculous question, but, must I have > IBM Dos as an Operating system on the 750c? > > Or, can I use Microsoft Dos 6.2? I have been using MS Dos 6.2 since I got my 750C with no problems (and better memory management!) > > How does the installation take place...do I delete IBM Dos and reboot the > system with Microsoft Dos 6.2 diskette in the drive? I just installed MS Dos 6.2 over the PC Dos 6.1 which was already installed. The installer program just treats it as an upgrade of an earlier version of Dos. One problem now, of course, is that no one knows what the compression program will be in Dos 6.21 (if you have not already purchased Dos 6.2. *********************************************************************** Rick Andrew WPA@psu.edu Asst Prof of HRI Finance WPA@psuvm.psu.edu Penn State Univ 814-863-0272 University Park, Pa. *********************************************************************** From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 18:30:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15346 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:30:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA01655; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:06:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:06:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA01646; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:06:00 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA06700 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:05:48 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403030005.AA06700@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: New PCMCIA drivers & MegaHertz modem To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:05:47 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <24030118241845@vms.macc.wisc.edu> from "Chris Schumann" at Mar 1, 94 06:23:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Well, I got the new PCMCIA drivers from IBM, Are you talking about the EasyPlay drivers? > me REMOVE one of those four gizmos in the config.sys. Which one? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 18:30:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15409 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:30:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA01715; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:08:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:08:30 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA01708; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:08:28 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA07588 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:08:19 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403030008.AA07588@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: PCMCIA Modem fault To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:08:18 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Steve Gross" at Mar 1, 94 07:17:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I am using an IBM High Speed PCMCIA Modem. If I enter the hibernation > mode, the modem is not useable upon resuming operation. It seems that most people have found hibernation to be rather flaky. Maybe a future version will make it more feasible but, for now, it seems rather silly since it takes so long and so much space... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 18:47:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21112 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:47:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA01938; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:13:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:13:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA01931; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:13:46 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA09310 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:13:37 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403030013.AA09310@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Microsoft Dos 6.2 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:13:36 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <40.315116.700.0CE179DC@channel1.com> from "Joseph Pereira" at Mar 2, 94 07:53:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I hope this doesn't sound like a ridiculous question, but, must I have > IBM Dos as an Operating system on the 750c? There is nothing about the TP750 that makes IBM DOS as a necessary OS. Many (most?) of us run OS/2 -- yes, that may be an IBM OS but it couldn't be further from DOS. You'll only run into problems if you try UNIX-y OS (except SCO). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 18:49:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21882 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:49:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA02314; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:20:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:20:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA02307; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:20:53 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA11841 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:20:43 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403030020.AA11841@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: General info To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:20:42 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <01H9HWLD2JSI8ZIPLF@delphi.com> from "TERESASELLIN@delphi.com" at Mar 2, 94 12:54:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > 1) $1299 price for 340 meg IBM drive. Any 3rd party vendors for > hardisk drives for ThinkPad? I'd like to get larger than 340 meg > but someone at IBM said the bios wouldn't support that. Is > this a fact? Well, if you've managed to get that Maxtor to run with it, why wouldn't you just try a larger Maxtor? I don't know if the BIOS max is true but I do know that there are larger drives available for notebook now (I've seen 540s in PCMag). > 2) Audio driver for virtual Dos windows is kind of lame. I get > machine hangs and fatal errors in the TPAUDD driver. Is there > a better driver in the works? You don't need to load TPAUDD in a DOS window under OS/2. It automatically virtualizes it as long as you've properly installed the audio drivers. If you don't have the OS/2 drivers, you should get them via IBM NSC BBS (because it'll take forever for IBM to send them to you). > 3) After the CSD install PMComm video gets screwed and my PCMCIA > modem will no longer connect reliably. Also I have to load the > com.sys driver before pcmcia.sys to get the modem to respond at > all even though the readme with the CSD says to load it after. Any other problems with the CSD? Also, are you using EasyPlay? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 18:51:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22501 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:51:04 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA02386; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:22:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:22:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA02379; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:22:48 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA12557 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:22:39 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403030022.AA12557@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Limits and IBM Prices To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:22:38 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403021942.AA14318@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> from "Bob Page" at Mar 2, 94 11:42:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I know IBM has a 500+ MB drive coming out very soon, but don't know > anything about pricing. I'm afraid to see the pricing! You think they'd be more reasonably priced with accessories -- I mean a 2400 baud PCMCIA modem for $300? Get serious... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 20:31:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25587 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 20:31:08 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA07861; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 20:50:13 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 20:50:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA07845; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 20:50:09 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8c-UTK) id UAA20280; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 20:40:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199403030140.UAA20280@wilma.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: NetBSD on a TP750 update Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU From: Keith Moore Date: Wed, 02 Mar 1994 20:40:52 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Okay, I now have NetBSD 0.9 running on my ThinkPad 750. It even runs X (in monochrome mode, at least ... I don't have a color display!) Changes I had to make: 1. boot block needed to be hacked to deal with a "type 6" (2.88 Mb) drive 2. same for kernel floppy driver. in both cases the code currently treats the drive like a 1.44 Mb drive (no 2.88 Mb capability yet!) 3. kernel keyboard/console driver: don't reset the keyboard controller when booting. if you do it spits out different scan codes than the kernel expects to see. 4. installed a different mouse driver that I got from someone on the net. had to hack it a bit because the code to recognize a normal ps/2 mouse doesn't work on the thinkpad. Not too bad, really. I'm still working on pcmcia ethernet support, and modem support after that. Then maybe sound and SCSI, if I can find out what bits to twiddle. (If you know where I can get good tech info on this beast, send me email!) Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 2 22:55:01 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09727 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Mar 1994 22:54:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id WAA20998; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 22:49:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 22:49:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from bos3a.delphi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id WAA20965; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 22:49:38 -0500 From: Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #6311) id <01H9IDTRA3AO9LV07Z@delphi.com>; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 21:03:01 EST Date: Wed, 02 Mar 1994 21:03:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE:3rd party hard drives for TP750 series To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01H9IDTRAMKY9LV07Z@delphi.com> X-Vms-To: INTERNET"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR Since I mentioned I have a Maxtor 250 meg hard disk working in my 750C quite a few have mentioned they don't see why I can't just upgrade to a larger disk from anyone. The problem is that there isn't any way that I can see to set drive parameters. The Thinkpad seems to query the drive and sets the parameters on its own. I don't know if there are only a few drives that work or if it can use any drive. Since I purchased the 750C used with the Maxtor drive, there was no risk since it was already working with it. But I'd rather not spend xx dollars for a hard disk that doesn't work in the 750 series. Has anyone else out there tried other than IBM hard disks in their 750/C/Cs? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 3 10:42:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21604 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Mar 1994 10:41:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id LAA06157; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 11:09:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 11:09:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id LAA06148; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 11:09:05 -0500 From: Received: from bartles (BARTLES.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA18118; Thu, 3 Mar 94 10:04:56 CST Received: by bartles (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA01497; Thu, 3 Mar 94 10:08:29 CST Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 10:08:29 CST Message-Id: <9403031608.AA01497@bartles> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com Subject: Just got my 750C; have network question Status: OR Greetings all. I've been monitoring the mailing list for a while, and I (finally!) got my 750C. Actually, I had given up on getting one and had ordered a different machine, then wonder-of-wonders, I found one via internal company transfer. What luck. The machine is a pretty standard config, 170 mbyte disk, 4 mbyte mem. I've successfully loadad MS-DOS 6.2 on it (someone had asked about this a few days back). I'm running Windows 3.1 and plan to load Windows for Workgroups on it to allow connecting to a rather large Windows NT network. I'm also planning to load a TCP/IP stack on it to connect to our Unix/Corporate environment. I'm waiting on the new 19.2 Megahertz PCMCIA card before installing a modem. With the transfer, I got an IBM Ethernet PCMCIA card, but I'm stumped at the moment on how to use it with either Windows(WFW) or with any TCP/IP stacks. The drivers that came with it do not appear to support either. Are drivers available somewhere? Am I just looking for the wrong thing on the installation floppy? Or will this just not work. Is there a different/better ethernet card for my needs? Any comments or suggestions on my network driver dilima, or my plans for WFW and TCP/IP will be appreciated. Thanks, Wes Byrne Schlumberger Austin Systems Center P.S. - regarding the battery survey, my machine ran about three hours last night on a full battery charge with heavy disk use (installing software). I'll do a more rigorous test for the survey as time permits. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 3 17:28:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10987 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:28:30 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id RAA05734; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:57:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:57:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id RAA05727; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:57:20 -0500 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwfrn08339; Thu, 3 Mar 94 17:57:13 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11146; Thu, 3 Mar 94 14:46:45 PST Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA12908; Thu, 3 Mar 94 14:56:56 PST Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14087; Thu, 3 Mar 94 14:56:03 PST Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 14:56:03 PST From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9403032256.AA14087@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Got mine too! Status: OR Finally, after a two month wait I'm the proud owner of a 750C/340. About all I've done so far is unwrap the thing and verify it works. I'm not going to be able to do much more than that with 4 Mb, so if anyone has any recent prices, recommendations, or even vendor horror stories about 8 Mb memory cards they would like to share with me I'd be happy to hear them. I'm also in the market for an AT&T KIT modem, so good prices tips on that is also appreciated. I'm sure I'll be firing some "how do I make this work with EasyPlay" questions at you all in coming weeks. I know this stuff has been asked 100 times already, so I apologize in advance for the repetition. Maybe now I can move out of lurker status. . . --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 3 17:46:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17904 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:46:19 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA07204; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 18:18:52 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 18:18:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from epas.utoronto.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA07197; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 18:18:42 -0500 Received: by epas.utoronto.ca (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA16170; Thu, 3 Mar 94 18:18:41 -0500 From: jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca (James Cummings) Message-Id: <9403032318.AA16170@epas.utoronto.ca> Subject: Hello; WordPerfect 6.0; Dos. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 18:18:41 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Hi there, I got on the list a little while ago, but hadn't had a chance to post yet. But now I've got a question, so am pressured into even though I'm short of time at the moment. Anyways....I have a tp 750 (yes mono *sigh*), with 4M Ram and a 340 Meg HD. I love it! It suits exactly the thigs I want to do. (Lots of library research, travel, etc.) ... I normally run it plugged in, so haven't had a chance to test just running on battery power. Oh yes, I also have the model two (no extra PCMCIA) Port Replicator for external monitor etc. Now, I'm currenlty running IBM Dos 6.1 , After reading someof the posts, I'm going to switch back to MS-Dos 6.2 .. I seem to have a lot of problems with IBM Dos 6.1 My problem currently is with WordPerfect 6.0 Not always, but sometime when I start it I get the error (I believe from dos) "Internal Stack Overflow" "System Shutdown". Now, the problem seems simple right? Just increase the amount of the STACKS setting in the config.sys right? Well... I tried that.. doesn't seem to help. I think it might involve a memory conflict of some sort since if I use the /ne switch with wp (to tell it I have no expanded memory) it loads. ... sometimes. It's the flakiness of it that is bothering me. Any suggestions? Am I missing something obvious? Does anyone actually use the Hibernation function? I use suspend and standby every once and awhile.... But otherwise... -James Cummings jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca | 1994: Official Year of The Toronto Free-Net. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 3 18:40:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07342 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Mar 1994 18:40:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA10054; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 19:15:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 19:15:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms.macc.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA10039; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 19:15:30 -0500 Received: from VMSmail by vms.macc.wisc.edu; Thu, 03 Mar 94 18:15 CDT Message-Id: <24030318150659@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 94 18:15 CDT From: Chris Schumann Subject: EasyPlay and ctrl-alt-del... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Status: OR First, WHAT IS EASYPLAY? next, If I press ctrl-alt-del in Windoze (why would I want to do that? NEVER MIND! I just do! Ok... mainly it's to see if this machine works like every other PC I use. anyway...) I get the normal "blue" screen. (I think it's blue on my monochrome screen [shouldn't that be monohue? shut up...]) Then, which every option I pick (ESC, Return or CTRL-ALT-DEL) if waits 10-15 seconds before doing anything. AND, if I had pressed ctrl-alt-del again, after waiting it politely returns me to windows, right back into the mess I wanted to get out of! PC Direct told me to switch to the VGA drivers. This is unacceptable due to its 16-color limit. (I want ALL my grays.) Anyone else have this problem? Anyone solved this problem? chris From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 3 19:02:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15118 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Mar 1994 19:02:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA11236; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 19:32:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 19:32:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA11227; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 19:32:15 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15262; Thu, 3 Mar 94 16:32:16 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13945; Thu, 3 Mar 94 16:31:22 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01048; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 16:31:14 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 16:31:14 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403040031.AA01048@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: SCHUMANN@macc.wisc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: EasyPlay and ctrl-alt-del... In-Reply-To: <24030318150659@vms.macc.wisc.edu> References: <24030318150659@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Status: OR EasyPlay (actually it's "EasyPlaying" because it was obviously done by non-native English speakers) is the name of the IBM PCMCIA support stuff. I also see some strangeness with the CTRL/Alt/Del problem you mentioned, using the VESA driver, on a 750C. But only when doing it from inside a DOS box. Everything else seems normal. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 3 20:04:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03762 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Mar 1994 20:04:34 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA15161; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 20:38:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 20:38:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA15153; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 20:38:55 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01835; Thu, 3 Mar 94 17:39:00 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20982; Thu, 3 Mar 94 17:38:07 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01196; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:37:56 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:37:56 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403040137.AA01196@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: battery weirdness Status: OR I always run at high speed, and close the LCD when I'm not using the laptop (to put it into suspend mode). An hour ago my battery read 1:40 left, which I believed. Just now I look at the lights through (the closed LCD) and noticed some strange blinking, so I opened the display. Now it reads 3:20 left. Huh? Oh well. Anyway, lately I've been having a weird problem. I have two batteries, and I discharge/charge one every night (I have an IBM quick charger), so I have a fresh battery every day. When one battery gets low enough that I get the "10 minute warning", I flip up the keyboard and swap out the old battery for the fresh one. I usually only have to do this once a day because of my habit of keeping the display closed when not using the machine, even for a couple of minutes. Lately, in the past 2-3 days, when I replace tha battery and put the keyboard back, the system shuts down and doesn't resume. I need to push the power switch to get it back on, and it does a cold boot. I thought the internal NiCad battery (under the floppy drive) supplied power to the system when the main battery was removed. If so, it doesn't seem to be doing its job. I wonder if this might be symptomatic of a NiCad failure? I have had the system off AC for over a week now, running exclusively on batteries. I assumed the NiCad would discharge/charge off the NiMH battery, but perhaps it only gets its juice from the AC? ..bob PS Between the time I started typing this and now (about 10 minutes), I left the system on (LCD up) and my battery went from 3:20 to 1:40. I suspect it will be at 1:00 in a few more minutes, which is what I'd expect. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 3 20:26:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09542 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Mar 1994 20:26:31 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA16884; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 21:04:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 21:04:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA16877; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 21:04:54 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06825; Thu, 3 Mar 94 18:04:59 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23208; Thu, 3 Mar 94 18:04:05 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01231; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 18:03:56 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 18:03:56 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403040203.AA01231@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: speaker indicator Status: OR I used the ps2win program ("ThinkPad Features") to disable the leftmost blinking light when the speaker sounds. At least I tried to. The light still blinks. I notice the DOS ps2 program (menu interface) doesn't even have the option. Does your speaker indicator blink when you tell it not to? ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 3 21:10:36 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22740 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Mar 1994 21:10:33 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA19760; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 21:44:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 21:44:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jarthur.cs.hmc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA19752; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 21:44:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199403040244.VAA19752@CS.UTK.EDU> Subject: Re: Got mine too! To: Bruce Reed Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 18:44:27 PST From: "John H. Kim" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9403032256.AA14087@opus.objy.com>; from "Bruce Reed" at Mar 3, 94 2:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR > I'm also in the market for an AT&T KIT modem, so good prices tips on that > is also appreciated. ftp sparco.com cd sparco look for a directory named 'modem' or 'modems' and get the price list in there. I got mine for $285. Ordering information is available there too. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 3 21:28:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28321 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Mar 1994 21:28:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id WAA21215; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 22:02:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 22:02:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id WAA21208; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 22:02:23 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA20283 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 3 Mar 1994 21:02:13 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403040302.AA20283@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Got mine too! To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 21:02:12 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403032256.AA14087@opus.objy.com> from "Bruce Reed" at Mar 3, 94 02:55:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR First off, congratulations to all the people who have patiently awaited for their TP750s and finally received it. I hope that you all find this list very helpful... > to be able to do much more than that with 4 Mb, so if anyone has any recent > prices, recommendations, or even vendor horror stories about 8 Mb memory > cards they would like to share with me I'd be happy to hear them. I'm > also in the market for an AT&T KIT modem, so good prices tips on that is Well, I can't help much on the RAM but it seems most people have been satisfied with theirs. I just would recommend that you don't get a EXP card, if possible. The best prices for the AT&T KIT modem is ~$289 at Sparco. FTP them at sparco.com. Great company really.. > > I'm sure I'll be firing some "how do I make this work with EasyPlay" questions > at you all in coming weeks. I know this stuff has been asked 100 times already, Well, hopefully, I'll have that in the FAQ which I can finally wok up over the break. And to all you who are professors, you should be ashamed of yourselves for keeping me so occupied! :) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 4 07:58:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11374 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 07:58:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id IAA12173; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 08:28:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 08:28:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hk.super.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id IAA12166; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 08:28:16 -0500 Received: by hk.super.net id AA18985 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 21:28:18 +0800 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 21:28:18 +0800 From: "Mr. Tony K Ng" Message-Id: <199403041328.AA18985@hk.super.net> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi all TP750 users, I am a new member and would like to introduce myself. My name is Tony Ng. I just graduated from University of Wisconsin-Madison and is living in Hong Kong now. I bought TP750C for my personal use. And its configuration is as follows: 1. 4M RAM 2. 340M HD 3. IBM DOS6.1/Windows3.1/Chinese Windows 3.1 4. Megahertz XJ1144 PCMCIA Modem Now, I got my first questions: 1. The Megahertz modem works well with my TP except that the computer would not resume on PC Card incoming call. I am not using the provided PCMCIA drivers, but only the one provided by Megahertz which is only a command executed in c:\autoexec.bat. Can anyone out there help me out? 2. I can not record anything. I used a walkman MIC and windows' recording software. But it seems like it does read anything. Do you have any experience on this? 3. I am thinking about installing OS/2.1 but only got 4M RAM. Does any of you know where I can buy a 8M RAM card at a low price? Or would you recommend me to use 8M PCMCIA RAM? 4. Is the 486SL/33 upgradable? (e.g. 486DX2) Thank you very much for your time. Look forward to hearing from you! -Tony From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 4 08:59:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22052 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 08:59:31 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id JAA15777; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 09:21:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 09:21:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from u.cc.utah.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id JAA15767; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 09:21:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (pawcamp@localhost) by u.cc.utah.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5uucc-a) id HAA25122; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 07:21:41 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 07:18:25 -0700 (MST) From: Paul Campbell Subject: TP750 & Megahertz Modem To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403041328.AA18985@hk.super.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I'd just like to take this opportunity to thank all of you who have bought our modems for use in your ThinkPad750 computer. If any of you ever need help regarding our modems, please feel free to say it here...I will be checking my mail everyday to make sure issues are resolved...thanks again! =pc= Paul W. Campbell pawcamp@u.cc.utah.edu Megahertz Corporation pwc@pine.cse.nau.edu Salt Lake City, UT pwc@ghost.cse.nau.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 4 09:25:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28612 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 09:25:35 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id JAA18776; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 09:49:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 09:49:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from u.cc.utah.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id JAA18768; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 09:49:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (pawcamp@localhost) by u.cc.utah.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5uucc-a) id HAA26705; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 07:49:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 07:33:00 -0700 (MST) From: Paul Campbell Subject: Re: your mail To: "Mr. Tony K Ng" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403041328.AA18985@hk.super.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Fri, 4 Mar 1994, Mr. Tony K Ng wrote: > 4. Megahertz XJ1144 PCMCIA Modem > > Now, I got my first questions: > 1. The Megahertz modem works well with my TP except that > the computer would not resume on PC Card incoming call. > I am not using the provided PCMCIA drivers, but only > the one provided by Megahertz which is only a command > executed in c:\autoexec.bat. > Can anyone out there help me out? Tony: Here's what you can do: 1) Call the IBM BBS (919) 517-0001 2) Go to file area # 37 3) Download a file called "UT75012X.EXE" (It's a self-extracting file) 4) PLace the file in an empty sub-directory and extract it's contents (simple type "UT75012X" from the DOS prompt) 5) From the sub-directory you extracted the files, do the following command (assuming that A: is the drive you are copying to) : "LOADDSKF UT75012X.DSK A: " (Make sure that the disk you are copying to is blank) 6) Change to drive A: and type: "PCMINST.EXE" 7) After installation is complete your computer should now have hot-swap capabilities as well as having rest/resume working properly. If you encounter any other problems call Travis Hatch here at Megahertz at: 1-800-LAPTOPS, x-8541 tell him I referred you to him also... Good luck! Paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 4 09:58:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09547 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 09:58:57 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id KAA21566; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:25:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:25:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id KAA21529; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:24:59 -0500 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 6535; Fri, 04 Mar 94 10:08:10 EST Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 9489; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:08:10 EST Received: from ganga.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Fri, 04 Mar 94 10:08:07 EST Received: by ganga.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA27553; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:08:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:08:00 -0500 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9403041508.AA27553@ganga.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Sean Chou's message of Thu, 3 Mar 1994 21:02:12 -0600 (CST) <199403040302.AA20283@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: memory cards Status: OR > to be able to do much more than that with 4 Mb, so if anyone has any recent > prices, recommendations, or even vendor horror stories about 8 Mb memory > cards they would like to share with me I'd be happy to hear them. I recently bought an 8MB card from a company called First Source in California. I don't have the phone number handy, but they advertise in Computer Shopper. It cost $400 including FedEx shipping. The card is manufactured by a company called Paragon. I am very satisfied with it, and it doesn't seem to appreciably decrease my battery life. I will run a battery test with and without it when I get the chance. Also, the price I got is the lowest I've seen. --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 4 10:33:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22041 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:33:33 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id KAA23555; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:53:57 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:53:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id KAA23547; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:53:51 -0500 From: Received: from bartles (BARTLES.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA19800; Fri, 4 Mar 94 09:49:47 CST Received: by bartles (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA07863; Fri, 4 Mar 94 09:53:19 CST Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 09:53:19 CST Message-Id: <9403041553.AA07863@bartles> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: bad pixels on the 750C... Status: OR I'm dropping a pixel a day on my 750C. When it arrived two days ago, it had one bad pixel in it that always shows green. The person I got it from (internal company transfer) said that there were no bad pixels when he shipped it to me. This morning, another went bad and now always shows red. Is this going to be a trend? Is anyone else experiencing similar pixel deaths? Do they ever come back? Is there something I might be doing that is causing this to happen? I understand that IBM allows three bad pixels before they consider the screen bad. If I end up with more than three, will they replace the screen? Thanks in advance, Wes Byrne Schlumberger Austin Systems Center From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 4 12:39:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10133 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 12:39:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id MAA01005; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 12:29:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 12:29:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from EMAIL.STATE.UT.US by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id MAA00948; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 12:29:22 -0500 From: Received: from STATE-DOMAIN-Message_Server by EMAIL.STATE.UT.US with WordPerfect_Office; Fri, 04 Mar 1994 10:29:31 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Fri, 04 Mar 1994 10:29:00 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Introduction Status: OR Hello, My name is Dennis Trop, I am about to graduate from Computer Science at the University of Utah and currently work for the State of Utah, Information Technology Services. I am designing the state's WAN that reaches all points of the state. I have a 750CE w/ 12MB RAM, 340 MB HD, IBM TR Card, IBM Ethernet Card and IBM's Highspeed Data/FAX modem. Running IBM DOS 6.1, QEMM and Windows. The machine is great but boy it needs alot of conventional memory. Especially when you need expanded memory. Also running NetWare Connect for remote access. This looks really good so far. See above for only problem(memory). Dennis From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 4 13:08:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21395 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 13:08:31 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA03670; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 13:12:22 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 13:12:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from midway.uchicago.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA03655; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 13:12:14 -0500 Received: from gsbdwd.uchicago.edu by midway.uchicago.edu for tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri, 4 Mar 94 12:12:10 CST Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 12:12:10 CST Message-Id: <9403041812.AA13881@midway.uchicago.edu> X-Sender: dddd@midway.uchicago.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: d-diamond@uchicago.edu (Doug Diamond) Subject: Re: Hello; WordPerfect 6.0; Dos. X-Mailer: Status: OR > My problem currently is with WordPerfect 6.0 Not always, but > sometime when I start it I get the error (I believe from dos) > "Internal Stack Overflow" "System Shutdown". > Any suggestions? Am I missing something obvious? > I don't know if this will fix your problem, but the TP750 has a problem with all of the rapid cursor features in DOS wp5.1 and wp6.0. It will sometimes hang the machine. You can start WP with "WP/nc" to get the normal cursor speed. When you get into WP, got to setup and turn off fast cursor. The default is 50cps, change it to "normal". > >-James Cummings >jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca | 1994: Official Year of The Toronto Free-Net. > > > Douglas W. Diamond University of Chicago d-diamond@uchicago.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 4 14:20:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18487 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 14:20:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA07380; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 14:14:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 14:14:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA07373; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 14:14:11 -0500 From: Received: from bartles (BARTLES.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA27139; Fri, 4 Mar 94 13:10:07 CST Received: by bartles (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA08568; Fri, 4 Mar 94 13:13:39 CST Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 13:13:39 CST Message-Id: <9403041913.AA08568@bartles> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 750C Trackpoint drift... Status: OR I've noticed during the first few minutes after power up that my trackpoint drifts a bit after I take my finger off it. After a few minutes, this drift goes away. Is this normal? Perhaps it monitors the first few minutes and does a calibration to compensate for differences between the strain gauges (which is how I assume it is implemented)? I edited the autoexec.bat per the installation instructions to use the proper mouse driver. Does anyone else notice this? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 4 17:51:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17981 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:51:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA00137; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:15:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:15:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms.macc.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA00111; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:15:24 -0500 Received: from VMSmail by vms.macc.wisc.edu; Fri, 04 Mar 94 17:14 CDT Message-Id: <24030417145941@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 94 17:14 CDT From: Chris Schumann Subject: Trackpoint drift To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Status: OR I notice that the mouse will drift if I try to use the trackpoint while resuming from suspend mode. I does not go away until I re-suspend and re-resume. I think [byrne]'s problem is abnormal. Call your vendor. chris From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 4 18:07:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20331 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:06:56 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA01366; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:32:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:32:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA01337; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:31:26 -0500 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwfvi13170; Fri, 4 Mar 94 18:31:14 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14151; Fri, 4 Mar 94 15:20:39 PST Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA08973; Fri, 4 Mar 94 15:30:54 PST Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21417; Fri, 4 Mar 94 15:29:58 PST Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 15:29:58 PST From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9403042329.AA21417@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Current price of 8 Mb card Status: OR Looks like memory has gone up again. I ended up buying the Paragon card from First Source for $415. That was still cheaper than the $435 and $452 prices I got from a couple of other vendors. --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 4 18:00:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19297 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:00:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA00855; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:25:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:25:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA00778; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:23:33 -0500 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwfvh10446; Fri, 4 Mar 94 18:21:42 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14111; Fri, 4 Mar 94 15:11:01 PST Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA08930; Fri, 4 Mar 94 15:21:16 PST Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21291; Fri, 4 Mar 94 15:20:19 PST Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 15:20:19 PST From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9403042320.AA21291@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: DOOM and audio Status: OR A while back I remember folks discussing problems they had getting the audio support to work with DOOM. Did anyone ever figure this out? Under DOS, I'm loading the audio device driver supplied with the audio diskette and starting the svaudio.exe driver (I believe that's the name.) I've tried configuring music using both the SoundBlaster and AdLib options, but neither works (DOOM init fails trying to open audio device.) Any ideas? --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 4 19:41:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03202 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 19:41:57 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA06324; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 20:11:47 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 20:11:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc4.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA06315; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 20:11:44 -0500 From: Message-Id: <9403050111.AA23603@husc4.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: TP750 & Megahertz Modem To: Paul.Campbell@m.cc.utah.edu (Paul Campbell) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 20:11:44 -0500 (EST) Cc: chan4@husc9.harvard.edu (Derek Victor Chan), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) In-Reply-To: from "Paul Campbell" at Mar 4, 94 07:18:25 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Right...does the Megahertz now have 16550 UART emulation? Thanks. > > > I'd just like to take this opportunity to thank all of you who have bought > our modems for use in your ThinkPad750 computer. If any of you ever need > help regarding our modems, please feel free to say it here...I will be > checking my mail everyday to make sure issues are resolved...thanks again! > > =pc= > > > > Paul W. Campbell pawcamp@u.cc.utah.edu > Megahertz Corporation pwc@pine.cse.nau.edu > Salt Lake City, UT pwc@ghost.cse.nau.edu > > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 4 20:01:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05289 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 20:01:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA07590; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 20:30:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 20:30:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA07576; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 20:30:17 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15370; Fri, 4 Mar 94 17:30:23 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04439; Fri, 4 Mar 94 17:29:31 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02428; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:29:23 +0800 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:29:23 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403050129.AA02428@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: battery weirdness In-Reply-To: <199403050105.RAA12509@aludra.usc.edu> References: <199403050105.RAA12509@aludra.usc.edu> <9403040137.AA01196@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> Status: OR Yesterday I mentioned that my machine wasn't recovering when I swapped out the battery for a new one. Randall Whittle hit the nail right on the head. The problem? I was swapping the battery *too quickly.* The solution is to lift the cover, WAIT for the TP to go into suspend mode, THEN swap out the batteries. I was just waiting for the LCD to go out, but it takes a couple extra seconds to really suspend. So - there's another thinkpad tidbit. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 4 20:55:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11829 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 4 Mar 1994 20:55:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA10583; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 21:18:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 21:18:21 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jarthur.cs.hmc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA10576; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 21:18:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199403050218.VAA10576@CS.UTK.EDU> Subject: Re: DOOM and audio To: Bruce Reed Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 18:18:19 PST From: "John H. Kim" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9403042320.AA21291@opus.objy.com>; from "Bruce Reed" at Mar 4, 94 3:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR > A while back I remember folks discussing problems they had getting the > audio support to work with DOOM. Did anyone ever figure this out? > Under DOS, I'm loading the audio device driver supplied with the audio > diskette and starting the svaudio.exe driver (I believe that's the name.) > I've tried configuring music using both the SoundBlaster and AdLib options, > but neither works (DOOM init fails trying to open audio device.) Any ideas? For what it's worth, the music works under OS/2 in a DOS box if you select the Adlib card. I don't think anybody has gotten the sound effects to work. I haven't gotten either music or sound effects to work under DOS. It's the first release of the audio emulator (even though the audio features is version 1.1) so I'm not surprised some games don't work. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 5 00:31:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04499 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Mar 1994 00:31:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA12268; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 21:47:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 21:47:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from gwis.circ.gwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA12260; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 21:47:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (halinatr@localhost) by gwis.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA14703; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 21:49:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 21:43:32 -0500 (EST) From: darren mccabe Subject: Am I a shmuck? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Oooh boy. Am I the only one who keeps falling for this? I JUST ordered a 4mb ram expansion card from IBM PC direct, at like $500. Today I log on and see you people talking about 8 MB cards for $415....sshheeezzzeee! What are these other cards, are they PCMCIA, or the style that plug in inder my floppy? Have any of you run into any adverse effects using them, OR the IBM version? You see, the card is on it's way, but if I get an overwhelming response saying "Hal, whaddya doin! Get the non-IBM card!" them I will simple send it back for a full refund. Please help me out here, I'm a student! I can't afford these kind of mistakes! Thanks in advance! Hal ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Darren Patrick McCabe "Hal" | Mail: Halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu | |-------------------------------|------------------------------------------| | Work: Gnossos Software, Inc | School: The George Washington University | | 1625 K St, NW, Suite 410 | Graduate School of Political Management| | Washington, DC 20006 | PADI Open Water Scuba Instructor #57901 | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | "I want to decide who lives and who dies" - Crow T. Robot, MST3K | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 5 00:42:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05579 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Mar 1994 00:42:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id BAA00850; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:10:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:10:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom9.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id BAA00837; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:10:49 -0500 Received: from localhost by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id UAA29699; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 20:15:39 -0800 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 20:06:35 -0800 (PST) From: Arie Litman Subject: Hi there To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hello, I am a proud owner of a TP-750C, I actually do not have it yet, but I know it has arraived to the office. Although I live in the US, I had to order the TP through our London UK office (from IBM direct UK). I waited 3 weeks! (not much at all) But Ill have to contend with a UK keyboard, I think its worth it. Configuration: 750 C 12 Meg of RAM (Extra 8, not by IBM..) 340 Meg HD EtherNet PCMCIA card Intel 14.4/14.4 modem If your intrested it costs in the UK 4200 pounds. I will load OS/2 and WFW with boot Manager, and later replace Windows with Chicago (win 4.0). Would like to hear from any one who has the Port Replicator with the extra PCMCIA, and anyone else who has some sound advice to a new TP owner.. Thanks, Arie Litman voice (408)411-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 5 00:42:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05586 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Mar 1994 00:42:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id BAA01363; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:19:29 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:19:27 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from bos1b.delphi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id BAA01356; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:19:26 -0500 From: Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #6311) id <01H9LAHNCIOO8ZKDXG@delphi.com>; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 22:57:50 EST Date: Fri, 04 Mar 1994 22:57:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Midi Player doesn't work with OS/2 2.11 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01H9LAHNCIOQ8ZKDXG@delphi.com> X-Vms-To: INTERNET"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR The Digital Video works fine, and I can play audio CD's in the Dock I but the 750 and OS/2 crash when I try to play a Midi file. Anyone else experience this...know how to fix it? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 5 00:51:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06389 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Mar 1994 00:51:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id BAA01828; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:29:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:29:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jarthur.cs.hmc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id BAA01819; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:28:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199403050628.BAA01819@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 22:27:49 PST From: Orcinus orca To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: AT&T KIT modem -- I dropped it Status: OR Well, I just dropped my ThinkPad off my lap while turning. Fortunately the ground was carpeted. Unfortunately the AT&T KIT modem and OLI were plugged in and it landed on that end. The two plastic female plugs and one male wire that insert into the modem both bent about 60 degrees. The plastic plugs cracked on one side (the outside of the bend) but it doesn't seem like any connections broke -- I bent everything back in shape and I'm using it right now to type this message. Still, I'll probably feel better when I buy a replacement. I doubt the XJack would've survived the same fall so I guess I made the right choice picking replacability over convenience. Anyways, all this reminded me of something I've been meaning to ask other AT&T KIT owners. Mine shipped with just the OLI. The plug pictured in the manual was not included. Is that what everyone else got, one or the other? I guess I get to report back to all of you on OLI replacement prices. :) I think when I call AT&T I'll suggest that they make the OLI plug flexible to avoid little accidents like mine... -- John H. Kim jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 5 00:57:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06774 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Mar 1994 00:57:08 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id BAA02447; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:37:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:37:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from u.cc.utah.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id BAA02440; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:37:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (pawcamp@localhost) by u.cc.utah.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5uucc-a) id XAA25054; Fri, 4 Mar 1994 23:36:59 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 23:35:20 -0700 (MST) From: Paul Campbell Subject: Re: TP750 & Megahertz Modem To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu Cc: Paul Campbell , Derek Victor Chan , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9403050111.AA23603@husc4.harvard.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Fri, 4 Mar 1994 chan4@husc.harvard.edu wrote: > Right...does the Megahertz now have 16550 UART emulation? > Yes! Current products that have 16550 are: XJ1144, XJ2144, and the CC3144. For more info, call our toll free #: 1-800-LAPTOPS > Thanks. You're very welcome! =pc= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 5 00:58:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06854 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Mar 1994 00:58:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id BAA02464; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:38:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:38:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jarthur.cs.hmc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id BAA02457; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:38:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199403050638.BAA02457@CS.UTK.EDU> Subject: Re: Am I a shmuck? To: darren mccabe Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 22:38:03 PST From: "John H. Kim" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: ; from "darren mccabe" at Mar 4, 94 9:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR > Am I the only one who keeps falling for this? I JUST ordered a 4mb ram > expansion card from IBM PC direct, at like $500. Today I log on and see > you people talking about 8 MB cards for $415....sshheeezzzeee! I don't think anyone has any major complaint with their 3rd party memory. My 8MB card seems to suck up a little more juice than others but battery life is still very reasonably (4- hours vs 5+ hours before). Mine's the First Source/Paragon card too. Try telling them you saw it in an ad for $387. Maybe they'll give it to you. > What are these other cards, are they PCMCIA, or the style that plug in > inder my floppy? Have any of you run into any adverse effects using them, > OR the IBM version? Under the floppy type. Anybody know if HP's new 20 MB PCMCIA flash RAM card works with the ThinkPad? It was originally designed for the new Omnibook 430. > You see, the card is on it's way, but if I get an overwhelming response > saying "Hal, whaddya doin! Get the non-IBM card!" them I will simple send > it back for a full refund. If you decide to cancel, do it IMMEDIATELY. Once IBM ships, if you want a refund, they take up to 45 days after they receive the return. That's if everything goes right. It's really silly how they can charge your credit card on the spot, but take over a month to credit you... I had to contest a charge just so I wouldn't have to pay the interest on my credit card. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 5 04:52:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03977 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Mar 1994 04:52:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id FAA22679; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 05:39:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 05:39:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id FAA22670; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 05:38:54 -0500 Received: from werple.apana.org.au by yarrina.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA19786 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Mar 1994 15:56:30 +1100 Received: from localhost (guardian@localhost) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.5/8.6.5) id PAA17989; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 15:54:59 +1100 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 15:51:36 +1100 (EST) From: Nick Allan Subject: I'm new To: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hello everyone I'm a new thinkpad user. I've got a tp750 with the standard options. I've got two questions hopefully someone will be able to help me. 1. Does anyone know where I can find a cheep pcmcia network adapter of some kine? I've got my two desktops linked using lantastic and I want to add the tp750 in. 2. Are there any ftp sites that have information/ utilties etc for the tp750's? Thanks for any help. Regards Nick From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 5 10:02:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13872 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Mar 1994 10:02:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id KAA12364; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 10:46:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 10:46:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id KAA12356; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 10:46:42 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA05967 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 94 10:39:08 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id E17BB7; Sat, 5 Mar 94 10:21:00 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Microsoft Dos 6.2/Thanks From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.318056.700.0CE17BB7@channel1.com> In-Reply-To: <40.315116.700.0CE179DC@channel1.com> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 23:51:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Microsoft Dos 6.2/Thanks Greetings..... I just want to say, THANK YOU!!.... to everyone who responded to my previous message. I appreciate all your advice and comments regarding Microsoft Dos, and IBM Dos. Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 5 10:50:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18228 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Mar 1994 10:50:19 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id LAA15109; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 11:35:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 11:35:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id LAA15089; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 11:35:42 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA24746; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 08:35:33 -0800 Received: from localhost (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id IAA09480; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 08:35:31 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403051635.IAA09480@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Flash Cards and IBM & Credit Cards To: jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu (John H. Kim) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 08:35:30 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403050638.BAA02457@CS.UTK.EDU> from "John H. Kim" at Mar 4, 94 10:38:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Anybody know if HP's new 20 MB PCMCIA flash RAM > card works with the ThinkPad? It was originally designed for the new > Omnibook 430. I recently got an HP 100LX sometime back for financial/spreadsheet/ and miscellaneous sheduling/note-taking functions (its nice--small and convenient & easy to carry). The 100LX has a Type II PCMCIA slot, and since it has only 1 MB (there is now a 2 MB version) memory, one is left with a 300 K "disk" for storage--not much. The obvious answer is a PCMCIA card. Many people buy fast, battery- backed RAM, but I chose to go with a Flash card (technically, its not referred to as "Flash RAM" since its not RAM, but more like an EEprom--not to mention that writes are a *lot* slower...) by Ace Technloogies. Its a 5 MB card with Stacker on it to make it 10 (I've actually gotten about 8 to 9 MB on it...). There are essentially 2 Flash-disk "standards." One by Intel and another buy SunDisk (also known as ATA-type). If you pay attention to the miniature hard drives that go in our wonderful Type III slots, you'll notice that these little drives are sometimes called "ATA"--and there is where you have your compatibility--they use the same method of communicating to the machine through the PCMCIA slot (I can't give any technical details though). Out of curiosity, I tried to make my Flash disk work in MY TP750 slot. After a little fiddling around, I found that once I enabled PCMCIA card services (I have no other PCMCIA cards, so this was new to me!) and added one more driver in there that comes with IBM PC-DOS 6.1 to enable ATA-type devices (check the manual--I can't remember the driver's name, but it has a whole page devoted to this ATA-type driver). VOILA! It worked--I could read or write to my Flash disk to my heart's content as though it were just another hard drive on my system! So in a nutshell--I'm willing to bet that if this 20 MB HP Flash card (and incidently, there are other sources for Flash disks that are just as big or bigger, and probably much cheaper than HP--one is ACE which I just mentioned, and another inexpensive one is Epson) is the SunDisk-type (and I'm absolutely certain it is--all the others they make are) and ATA- based, then yes, it will work in your ThinkPad 750 PCMCIA slot. ...but it's not cheap! There is a *reason* I only bought the 5 MB card! > > You see, the card is on it's way, but if I get an overwhelming response > > saying "Hal, whaddya doin! Get the non-IBM card!" them I will simple send > > it back for a full refund. > > If you decide to cancel, do it IMMEDIATELY. Once IBM ships, if you want > a refund, they take up to 45 days after they receive the return. That's if > everything goes right. It's really silly how they can charge your credit > card on the spot, but take over a month to credit you... I had to contest > a charge just so I wouldn't have to pay the interest on my credit card. That has happened to me (by IBM)... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California (Dodging QUAKES in L.A.!!) Chocolate junkie, Motorcycle nut, HP 48 user, and of course...Computer geek "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 5 13:56:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08731 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Mar 1994 13:56:10 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA26372; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 14:36:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 14:36:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jarthur.cs.hmc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA26365; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 14:36:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199403051936.OAA26365@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 11:32:08 PST From: Orcinus orca To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Sparco info & ftp info Status: OR Here's the info needed to order from sparco, all except the prices: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Shipping Charges : In Continental USA, include $5 for each software title. 4% for hardware orders, minimum $5. HI AK FPO APO Puerto Rico and Canadian orders, please add 6% shipping. Foreign orders add 14% shipping. All foreign orders are shipped first class US mail. Express services with UPS FedEX US Express mail and Airbourne Express are available. When ordering in volume please contact Sparco to get better prices. Payment : Sparco accepts American Express and Discover cards only. Mastercard Visa, Diner's, Carte Blanche and JCB are scheduled to be added on a later date. Payments can also be wired or mailed to Sparco. Please allow 4 days processing period for personal checks. All payments must be in US Dollars. Sparco accepts POs on terms from gov. agencies and educational institutions only. COD orders are welcome. Orders can be mailed, faxed or emailed to Sparco Communications. Attn: Sales Sparco Communications Ph : (601) 323-5360 500 Russell St. Suite 20 Fax : (601) 324-6433 Starkville, MS 39759 email : sparco@sparco.com USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= And for those of you with only email access, some advice from the Special Internet Connections list: -FTP via EMail mail ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com Subject: (hit return) Body-of-letter: help (return) quit mail ftpmail@grasp.insa-lyon.fr Body-of-letter: help. Please, European users only. mail bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu mail BITFTP@DEARN or to BITFTP@vm.gmd.de (Europe only) Body-of-letter: help or ftplist for a list of anon. ftp sites. -- John H. Kim jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 5 14:45:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14143 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Mar 1994 14:45:50 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA29229; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 15:20:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 15:20:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jarthur.cs.hmc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA29220; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 15:20:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199403052020.PAA29220@CS.UTK.EDU> Subject: Re: Sparco info & ftp info To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 12:20:52 PST From: "John H. Kim" In-Reply-To: <199403051936.OAA26365@CS.UTK.EDU>; from "Orcinus orca" at Mar 5, 94 11:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR Despite what that Sparco info I just posted said, you can phone your orders too. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 5 20:28:01 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16060 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 5 Mar 1994 20:27:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA18312; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 21:07:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 21:07:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hamlet.ucdavis.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA18305; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 21:07:45 -0500 From: Received: from localhost by hamlet.ucdavis.edu (8.6.5/UCD2.50) id RAA28715; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 17:59:52 -0800 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 17:59:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: AT&T KIT modem -- I dropped it To: Orcinus orca Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403050628.BAA01819@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Fri, 4 Mar 1994, Orcinus orca wrote: > reminded me of something I've been meaning to ask other AT&T KIT owners. > Mine shipped with just the OLI. The plug pictured in the manual was > not included. Is that what everyone else got, one or the other? I think mine is like yours. The OLI is on the card end. The one drawn in the manual has the OLI on the telephone connection end (older version?). A morbid request perhaps, considering your recent accident, but can you see what is inside the OLI plug. I've been curious about that. Glad to hear that your TP is OK. Brian K. Tarkington bktarkington@ucdavis.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 01:31:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12387 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 01:31:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id CAA03963; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 02:11:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 02:11:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jarthur.cs.hmc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id CAA03956; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 02:11:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199403060711.CAA03956@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 23:06:16 PST From: Orcinus orca To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Inside the AT&T modem OLI Status: OR The entire OLI didn't crack open, just the plastic end that inserts into the modem. There are metal wires inside the plastic so it looks like the only reason they made two female plugs with one male prong in the middle is so you don't stick the thing in in the wrong place or upside down. It's all metal wires inside. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 07:46:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09357 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 07:46:50 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id IAA02117; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 08:31:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 08:31:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hk.super.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id IAA02110; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 08:31:12 -0500 Received: by hk.super.net id AA27525 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 21:31:05 +0800 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 21:31:05 +0800 From: "Mr. Tony K Ng" Message-Id: <199403061331.AA27525@hk.super.net> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi there, I just want to say thanks to those who has been giving me advise on my 750 questions. Thanks a lot. -Tony From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 12:08:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23582 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:08:36 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id MAA15767; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:51:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:51:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id MAA15760; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:51:42 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA22328 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 11:51:24 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403061751.AA22328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Questions To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 11:51:23 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403041328.AA18985@hk.super.net> from "Mr. Tony K Ng" at Mar 4, 94 09:28:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I am not using the provided PCMCIA drivers, but only > the one provided by Megahertz which is only a command > executed in c:\autoexec.bat. > Can anyone out there help me out? Try to get the updated drivers, either from Megahertz (which, I believe uses enablers) or from IBM NSC BBS. > 2. I can not record anything. I used a walkman MIC and > windows' recording software. But it seems like it does > read anything. Do you have any experience on this? You shouldn't have a problem there. If you can't find a way to resolve it, then I would send it in for repair. > 3. I am thinking about installing OS/2.1 but only got > 4M RAM. Does any of you know where I can buy a > 8M RAM card at a low price? Or would you recommend > me to use 8M PCMCIA RAM? Most of the places all seem to sell 8MB at ~$450-$500. > 4. Is the 486SL/33 upgradable? (e.g. 486DX2) This is a question we would like to know ourselves. Right now, obviously, there would be a problem since the 486DX2/66 aren't SL-Enhanced (to my knowledge), but I would assume that as soon as Intel releases one, IBM will be offering an upgrade (I hope). Sean Chou From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 12:19:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24647 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:19:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA16332; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:05:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:05:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA16318; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:05:28 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA23378 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:05:11 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403061805.AA23378@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: bad pixels on the 750C... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:05:10 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403041553.AA07863@bartles> from "byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com" at Mar 4, 94 09:53:05 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Is this going to be a trend? I should certainly hope not! I've had two screens so far and I've only seen one pixel actually go bad. My first screen came with five bad pixels and when one more went out, I got it replaced (there were some small ones elsewhere). Now my screen has one pixel and has stayed there for the past two months or so... > Is there something I might be doing that is causing this to happen? Are you doing anything ridiculous to it? Such as wiping it with a harsh detergent or leaving it by some powerful force (magnetic or whatever)? > I understand that IBM allows three bad pixels before they consider the > screen bad. If I end up with more than three, will they replace the > screen? Well, first off, it is nearly impossible to get a perfect screen. I've never actually seen one and the people who say they have one often don't check against solid colors for it. Three isn't bad and neither is four. IBM doesn't replace until you have seven or more bad pixels as I recall. It's actually a rather standard policy amongst the laptop vendors. As long as no more go bad and it doesn't bother you, I wouldn't worry about it. If it does bother you though, contact IBM. -Sean Chou From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 12:25:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25294 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:25:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA16567; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:11:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:11:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA16560; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:11:31 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA23857 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:11:15 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403061811.AA23857@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: DOOM and audio To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:11:14 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403042320.AA21291@opus.objy.com> from "Bruce Reed" at Mar 4, 94 03:20:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > A while back I remember folks discussing problems they had getting the > audio support to work with DOOM. Did anyone ever figure this out? I've fiddled with it quite a bit myself. I think that the newer version (1.2) doesnt' check for the memory address to search at meaning we may be able to enter our actual addresses. But even then, I don't know if it'll work since it may need the actual hardware to exist there... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 12:36:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26251 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:36:40 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA16772; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:18:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:18:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA16764; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:18:48 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA24577 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:18:31 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403061818.AA24577@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: AT&T KIT modem -- I dropped it To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:18:30 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403050628.BAA01819@CS.UTK.EDU> from "Orcinus orca" at Mar 4, 94 10:27:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Well, I just dropped my ThinkPad off my lap while turning. Fortunately > the ground was carpeted. Unfortunately the AT&T KIT modem and OLI were Ouch, I assume the TP is just fine? > I doubt the XJack would've survived the same fall so I guess I made the > right choice picking replacability over convenience. Anyways, all this Well, let's not have any XJack vs. KIT wars here. But it is strange that those seem to be the only two modems that we TP users possess... > Mine shipped with just the OLI. The plug pictured in the manual was > not included. Is that what everyone else got, one or the other? Neither did mine. I called AT&T and they reported back that there are two models for it and that you can get one or the other. I would like to here about the prices for the plug model... > I think when I call AT&T I'll suggest that they make the OLI plug flexible > to avoid little accidents like mine... That would be a nice touch though... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 12:40:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26613 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:40:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA17100; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:22:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:22:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA17078; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:21:58 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA24972 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:21:40 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403061821.AA24972@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: I'm new To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:21:39 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Nick Allan" at Mar 5, 94 03:51:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > 1. Does anyone know where I can find a cheep pcmcia network adapter of > some kine? I've got my two desktops linked using lantastic and I want to > add the tp750 in. If you find any, let me know! :) > 2. Are there any ftp sites that have information/ utilties etc for the > tp750's? The best place for updated drivers is the IBM NSC BBS. I don't have the number right now, but I'm sure that someone else could give it to you or you could call IBM for it. Also, these mailings will be archived and uploaded in the near future for FTP. And a FAQ will go with it as well as be posted to the laptops newsgroup. From Paul.Campbell@m.cc.utah.edu Sun Mar 6 12:49:24 1994 Received: from u.cc.utah.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27530 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:49:23 -0600 Received: from localhost (pawcamp@localhost) by u.cc.utah.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5uucc-a) id LAA19917; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 11:49:27 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 11:48:10 -0700 (MST) From: Paul Campbell Subject: Re: Questions To: Sean Chou Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403061751.AA22328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Sun, 6 Mar 1994, Sean Chou wrote: > > I am not using the provided PCMCIA drivers, but only > > the one provided by Megahertz which is only a command > > executed in c:\autoexec.bat. > > Can anyone out there help me out? > > Try to get the updated drivers, either from Megahertz (which, I > believe uses enablers) or from IBM NSC BBS. We (Megahertz) have both an enabler (SETMHZ) and System Soft Card & Socket Services (allows hot-swapping) on our BBS. good luck! -pc- From whittle@chaph.usc.edu Sun Mar 6 13:22:13 1994 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00409 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:22:12 -0600 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA16314 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 11:22:23 -0800 Received: from localhost (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA29365 for ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 11:22:21 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403061922.LAA29365@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Questions To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 11:22:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <199403061751.AA22328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> from "Sean Chou" at Mar 6, 94 11:51:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2260 Status: OR > > 2. I can not record anything. I used a walkman MIC and > > windows' recording software. But it seems like it does > > read anything. Do you have any experience on this? > > You shouldn't have a problem there. If you can't find a way > to resolve it, then I would send it in for repair. You're an OS/2 user, so you probably wouldn't know this... Since he has a stock 4 MB machine, Windows is so loaded with the various drivers and such that 4 MB simply isn't enough to buffer the memory- intensive recording feature (play is okay though). Before my 8 MB card arrived, I had the same problem. The only way around it was to make a big swap file--but that just makes it *possible*. The truth of the matter is that it just makes the recording absolutely unworkable (though technically, it works) since it lags *so* far behind--you can't even tell if it is recording! At any rate, once I put the new memory card in, it worked like a peach. I also let the other gentleman know this. > > 4. Is the 486SL/33 upgradable? (e.g. 486DX2) > > This is a question we would like to know ourselves. Right now, > obviously, there would be a problem since the 486DX2/66 aren't > SL-Enhanced (to my knowledge), but I would assume that as soon > as Intel releases one, IBM will be offering an upgrade (I hope). I'll be curious to see this...but what will we do with our old chip? Seems to me that an SL-enhanced DX2-66 chip sure isn't going to be cheap (knowing IBM, they'll probably price the upgrade at $1500). ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 14:11:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04333 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:11:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA22597; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:55:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:55:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jarthur.cs.hmc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA22580; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:55:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199403061955.OAA22580@CS.UTK.EDU> Subject: Re: Questions To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 11:55:46 PST From: "John H. Kim" In-Reply-To: <199403061751.AA22328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>; from "Sean Chou" at Mar 6, 94 11:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR > > 2. I can not record anything. I used a walkman MIC and > > windows' recording software. But it seems like it does > > read anything. Do you have any experience on this? > > You shouldn't have a problem there. If you can't find a way > to resolve it, then I would send it in for repair. The Soundblaster has two input jacks -- microphone and line. Most software was designed around the Soundblaster and so you have to pick the correct input source -- microphone or line. Otherwise you don't record anything. I don't remember which jack the TP750 has, mic or line. I did get it to record under Windows (back when I had 4 MB) so it should work. Which reminds me, the recording volume was fine under Windows, but under OS/2, it was very faint. I could barely hear it upon playback, even with the hardware and MMPM/2 volume controls set all the way up. Has anyone else tried recording under OS/2? > > 4. Is the 486SL/33 upgradable? (e.g. 486DX2) > > This is a question we would like to know ourselves. Right now, > obviously, there would be a problem since the 486DX2/66 aren't > SL-Enhanced (to my knowledge), but I would assume that as soon > as Intel releases one, IBM will be offering an upgrade (I hope). SL != SL-Enhanced. The former incorporates many of the chips you'd normally find on the motherboard into the CPU. I don't think the pin-outs are the same either. BUT we know a TP750CE exists, and it's supposed to be a clock doubled 25/50 or 33/66. So either IBM made a TP750 motherboard that uses an SL-Enhanced CPU, or they clock doubled the 486SL. In the former case, you'd have to buy a new motherboard (or whatever you call it in a notebook). In the latter case, IBM wouldn't be able to sell it to you without the motherboard (contract with Intel). So unless I'm wrong about the SL / SL-Enhaned pinouts being different, or Intel comes out with a 486SL2/66, there's no way to upgrade the CPU short of a new motherboard. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 14:43:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07951 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:43:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA24363; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:29:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:29:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA24356; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:29:36 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA06237 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:29:17 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403062029.AA06237@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: MHz To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:29:16 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Paul Campbell" at Mar 6, 94 11:47:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > We (Megahertz) have both an enabler (SETMHZ) and System Soft Card & Socket > Services (allows hot-swapping) on our BBS. It's very nice to see such friendly help and dedication from a rather large company. I'm glad you can make it on our mailing list. And although I myself use an AT&T KIT PCMCIA modem, many others on our list use your MHz card. I'm sure they'll appreciate your help. Is the Card&Socket Services that you provide the same as the ones that accompany the new utilities disk (v.1.12)? Or are they of MHz own manufacture for the TP? -Sean Chou From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 14:49:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08713 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:49:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA24698; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:35:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:35:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA24686; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:35:18 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA06761 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:35:02 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403062035.AA06761@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Setups and Upgradeable CPUs To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:35:01 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403061922.LAA29365@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Mar 6, 94 11:22:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > You're an OS/2 user, so you probably wouldn't know this... Oooh, have I earned such a rep? :) Or is it just to the more active readers of our list only? > Since he has a stock 4 MB machine, Windows is so loaded with the > various drivers and such that 4 MB simply isn't enough to buffer the memory- > intensive recording feature (play is okay though). Before my 8 MB card Ahh, I didn't know this was the source of the problem but I thank you for pointing it out! For what it's worth, I've spent some time back in DOS/win lately to try to help our fellow TP750 users with that setup. I've got a config.sys and autoexec.bat with multiple bootups set up to cover the two most basic configs -- game play and normal use (with PCMCIA drivers). Both setups have a fair amount of RAM available. I think that maybe I'll post them to the list...? > I'll be curious to see this...but what will we do with our old > chip? Seems to me that an SL-enhanced DX2-66 chip sure isn't going to be > cheap (knowing IBM, they'll probably price the upgrade at $1500). Use it as an expensive keychain? :) I would probably just lay it aside until I found a way to use it in a normal motherboard -- I assume it would use the same type of CPU but that may be erroneous since it's 1) on a notebook, and 2) SL-Enhanced. But since I've heard that the CPU is upgradeable (in PC/Computing), I would assume that the CPU has to be somewhat exchangeable. I wonder if someone with a tech manual (ahem, Keith) could tell us the possibility of an upgradeable CPU... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 14:51:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09051 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:51:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA24897; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:39:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:39:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA24890; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:39:06 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA07130 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:38:47 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403062038.AA07130@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: AT&T KIT models To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:38:47 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403061925.LAA29619@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Mar 6, 94 11:25:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I don't understand what is going on here, and should I purchase a KIT, I want > to be informed! Thanks... It's rather simple. The "plug" model only comes in three parts -- the KIT card itself, the connector for the KIT card (with a "plug" on the end for the phone wire), and then a bit of phone wire. This seems to me to be more practical since I've broken my share of RJ11 phone thingys by pulling them out too harshly or whatnot. But this seems to be the one that no one is getting. The other model is composed of two parts -- the KIT card and a connector that has an RJ11 on the end of it. In this case, it seems if you break the RJ11 thing, you have to get a new connector or splice a new cable to it (either way a pain). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 15:03:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10479 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:02:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA25373; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:47:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:47:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA25364; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:47:32 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA08422 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:47:15 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403062047.AA08422@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: CPU Upgrade? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:47:14 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403061955.OAA22580@CS.UTK.EDU> from "John H. Kim" at Mar 6, 94 11:55:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > SL != SL-Enhanced. The former incorporates many of the chips you'd > normally find on the motherboard into the CPU. I don't think the I'm not sure about the pin layouts of the two CPUs but I am aware of the difference. Unfortunately, it seems that Intel has stopped making SL chips in favor of making all their chips SL-Enhanced. But that doesn't mean IBM can't make the SL66 themselves since they are capable of making Intel chips or perhaps even making a version of the clock-tripled chips (I don't know about the heat problems this could cause though). > pin-outs are the same either. BUT we know a TP750CE exists, and > it's supposed to be a clock doubled 25/50 or 33/66. So either IBM > made a TP750 motherboard that uses an SL-Enhanced CPU, or they clock > doubled the 486SL. In the former case, you'd have to buy a new Well, we now have our first (that I know of) CE owner aboard so maybe he can give us a hint. I was under the impression that it was a DX2/66. It never occured to me whether it uses a different motherboard to handle a regular DX2/66 or whether IBM clock-doubled the 486SL. It seems more reasonable that they would just clock-double the SL chip since even Intel hasn't announced a 66 SL-Enhanced chip... or have they? > (contract with Intel). So unless I'm wrong about the SL / SL-Enhaned > pinouts being different, or Intel comes out with a 486SL2/66, there's > no way to upgrade the CPU short of a new motherboard. Well, Intel coming out with a new SL chip doesn't seem likely although it seems that the new NEC Versas are using a SL2/50. I don't know... it could've been a typo. If the NEC Versa Es are indeed using a new SL chip though...it would seem to be more promising. I wonder if IBM would have to sell us a new motherboard or if we could just upgrade it since we do, in essence, have a motherboard sold under the same premises (IBM made Intel chip). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 15:29:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13140 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:29:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA26861; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 16:11:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 16:11:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA26854; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 16:11:30 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA11369 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:11:13 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403062111.AA11369@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: no subject (file transmission) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:11:12 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I have managed to setup a relatively decent system in my short time playing with DOS/Win. As most people may or may not know, I'm an OS/2 user but I've taken some time to see if I can help to opmtimize DOS/Win with PCMCIA and sounds. I've come up with a multiple boot-up configuration and get respectable amounts of RAM. But first, I had to make some assumptions. For "regular" use (I assume most people use primarily Windows under DOS), there is no sound capability outside of Windows -- no emulation, no nothing. Also, I don't load a mouse driver (if you need it loaded, just move the mouse driver to the common loading region in the autoexec.bat). Also, the game setup uses EMS so it does not fare well in RAM. If your games can use XMS, include a NOEMS option on the emm386.exe line under the [GAMES] section in the config.sys. CONFIG.SYS ---------- [MENU] menuitem=NORMAL, Setup for Windows menuitem=GAMES, Setup for game use [COMMON] DEVICE=C: \WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS DOS=high SHELL=c: \bin\ndos.com /p FILES=40 BUFFERS=20 LASTDRIVE=G DEVICE=c: \bin\nansi.sys DEVICE=c: \ibmvesa\vesa.exe [NORMAL] STACKS=9,256 DEVICE=C: \WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS X=C000-C0FF DEVICE=c: \dos\ramboost.exe load DEVICE=C: \DOS\POWER.EXE DEVICE=C: \THINKPAD\IBMDSS01.SYS /S0=2 DEVICE=C: \THINKPAD\IBMDOSCS.SYS DEVICE=C: \THINKPAD\DICRMU01.SYS /MA=C000-C0FF DEVICE=C: \THINKPAD\AUTODRV.SYS C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.INI DEVICE=C: \THINKPAD\$ICPMDOS.SYS DEVICE=C: \WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS [GAMES] STACKS=0,0 DEVICE=c: \windows\emm386.exe DEVICE=c: \thinkpad\audio\DIAG\AUDTEST.SYS /V=10 DEVICEHIGH=c: \thinkpad\audio\AUDIODD\TPAUDDD.SYS ---------- Also, some of you may notice that I'm using Window for Workgroups 3.11. If you are using regular Windows, you won't have the IFSHLP.SYS line. I also only exclude a small region of memory for PCMICA (C000-C0FF) and that has proved to be fine for those of use with just a modem. I don't know about those who have network cards or some other second card though. Also, I realize that some people may have third party memory managers but I've tried to stick to what comes with DOS/Win so that this can benefit the most number of users... AUTOEXEC.BAT ------------ @ECHO OFF PROMPT [$p] PATH=c:\dos;c:\bin;c:\windows;c:\winapps\ndw;c:\thinkpad SET TEMP=c:\temp SET SYMANTEC=C:\SYMANTEC REM C:\WINDOWS\net start REM C:\THINKPAD\FUELDOS REM C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE /X 2048 128 C:\WINAPPS\NDW\IMAGE.EXE ALIAS /r c:\bin\alias.lst IF NOT "%CONFIG%" == "GAMES" GOTO End LH C:\DOS\MOUSE.COM LH c:\thinkpad\audio\vdd\svaudio.exe :End ------------ And a final word: this is just my own suggestion and may or may not give you the best results. As I said earlier, I'm really an OS/2 user moonlighting as a DOS/Win user to try to help. Of course, I do have a lot of experience with DOS/Win though. I also have Norton Desktop for Windows and hence, the image line. I found FUELDOS to be unnecessary if you are doing most of your work in Windows. I also REM'ed out net since I'm not on a network. The smartdrive size is minimal since WFW3.11 has it's own cache which seems to work just fine. As a matter of fact, if you use WFW311 and nothing else, I'd recommend taking out the drive cache peiod. Also, I use NDOS.COM as my command shell (in place of COMMAND.COM) so I have the alias line. Sorry about the my thoughts being rather scattered but I was just rattling it off as it came to me. Even though the mouse and svaudio have LH statements in front of them, they don't actually load into high memory...so you may want to remove the LH from them unless you can also place the NOEMS line in the emm386.exe driver line... From litman@netcom.com Sun Mar 6 15:42:28 1994 Received: from netcom10.netcom.com (netcom11.netcom.com) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14528 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:42:27 -0600 Received: from localhost by netcom10.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id NAA11910; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:43:35 -0800 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:41:50 -0800 (PST) From: Arie Litman Subject: Re: Questions To: Sean Chou Cc: TP-750 List In-Reply-To: <199403061751.AA22328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I heard of rumors that IBM in Europe is providing select customers with a TP 750E and it is the same as the "C" but with a 496/66mz... Would like to put my hands on one of there... Arie Litman voice (408)411-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 6 Mar 1994, Sean Chou wrote: > > I am not using the provided PCMCIA drivers, but only > > the one provided by Megahertz which is only a command > > executed in c:\autoexec.bat. > > Can anyone out there help me out? > > Try to get the updated drivers, either from Megahertz (which, I > believe uses enablers) or from IBM NSC BBS. > > > 2. I can not record anything. I used a walkman MIC and > > windows' recording software. But it seems like it does > > read anything. Do you have any experience on this? > > You shouldn't have a problem there. If you can't find a way > to resolve it, then I would send it in for repair. > > > 3. I am thinking about installing OS/2.1 but only got > > 4M RAM. Does any of you know where I can buy a > > 8M RAM card at a low price? Or would you recommend > > me to use 8M PCMCIA RAM? > > Most of the places all seem to sell 8MB at ~$450-$500. > > > 4. Is the 486SL/33 upgradable? (e.g. 486DX2) > > This is a question we would like to know ourselves. Right now, > obviously, there would be a problem since the 486DX2/66 aren't > SL-Enhanced (to my knowledge), but I would assume that as soon > as Intel releases one, IBM will be offering an upgrade (I hope). > > Sean Chou > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 15:59:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16084 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:59:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA28824; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 16:44:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 16:44:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gwis.circ.gwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA28816; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 16:44:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (halinatr@localhost) by gwis.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id QAA16004; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 16:45:33 -0500 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 16:36:19 -0500 (EST) From: darren mccabe Subject: Hey, Hey, Sound and Gaming? To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Ok- I just bought a Colorado (something) "Gameport" serial game adapter, and a Flightstick. Didn't work. Took it bak, and tried a diffrent joystick, nope. Figured I must have a non-standard serial port, so I got the Parallel adapter, and nope. Still didn't work. So, are there any of you out there that have joysticks hooked up to your TP's, and if so, how? X-Wing and NHL Hockey are tought with the TPII.... Also, can I get some feedback from those of you using the "Dock 1" with a CD-ROM and whatever else you managed to cram in there (says it takes a 1 GB hard drive..). And once more, do you think that the audio driver will ever be updated enough to make our sound chips truly Soundblaster compatable, or are we stuck with the PCjr of sound...a step up, but no farther? Finally....what are some of the 3rd party devices you have running on your TP's aside from Modems and memory? Anyone using inventive PCMCIA's, tape backups, external items? And is there anyone that is switching back and forth between 2 hard drives? Curious, ain't I? Hal P.S. one more thing, could someone kick me in the right direction for getting the latest drivers for my little $3K wonder? I really want to squeeze what I can out of this machine! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Darren Patrick McCabe "Hal" | Mail: Halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu | |-------------------------------|------------------------------------------| | Work: Gnossos Software, Inc | School: The George Washington University | | 1625 K St, NW, Suite 410 | Graduate School of Political Management| | Washington, DC 20006 | PADI Open Water Scuba Instructor #57901 | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | "I want to decide who lives and who dies" - Crow T. Robot, MST3K | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 16:24:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18470 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 16:24:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id RAA00185; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:05:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:05:21 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jarthur.cs.hmc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id RAA00178; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:05:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199403062205.RAA00178@CS.UTK.EDU> Subject: Re: AT&T KIT modem -- I dropped it To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 14:05:13 PST From: "John H. Kim" In-Reply-To: <199403062053.AA09369@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>; from "Sean Chou" at Mar 6, 94 2:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR > Ah, well I guess then that means someone has yet to really punish their > TPs. I can't help but wonder if the TP can take some abuse. I know > it can take bumps fine though since I carry it with me in a soft bag > and have occasionally bumpd it. Having material tested fiberglass and various metals, I tend to be more trusting of the ruggedness of these materials. I've tossed it a few feet onto the car seat or a couch. When its in the (Kensington) carrying case, I'll make small ( > It's a somewhat subtle hint to the MegaHertz representative on here to > > pass word along that the XJack should be designed to be replacable if > > damaged. > > Very diabolical of you... :) Yes, I figured if I just sent a suggestion it'd be passed along as a suggestion; but if I made it sound like a criticism, it'd be passed along as "a customer pointed out our product is inferior in this respect." :) > > Maybe because they're the best two modems on the market? > > Could be. But I've also heard quite a few nice words of the Intel > modem as well as the USR modems. Someone has finally purchased a > USR modem though so I guess I can't say that anymore...bummer. When I called around asking about modems, only the AT&T and Practical Peripherals gave a definite "yes" to having a 16550 UART. The PP is supposed to be a clone of the AT&T. Nice to know the Megahertz has joined the club. Coming from using the 16450 on the TP's serial port, it makes a HUGE difference when multitasking under OS/2. > Between you and me, I think the AT&T KIT winds hands-down if nothing > else, just for it's upgradeability... There are a couple other modems with firmware in EEPROM. Considering the marginal cost of the PCMCIA modems, I'm surprised more full sized modems don't use them. Then again, I suppose the modem companies wouldn't make as much money then. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 16:45:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20415 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 16:44:57 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id RAA01101; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:22:13 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:22:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id RAA01094; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:22:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (postman@localhost) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id RAA10356 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:22:06 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix10.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix10.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:21:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.14.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix10.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix10.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:20:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:20:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew A. Houghton" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: AT&T KIT modem -- I dropped it In-Reply-To: <199403062205.RAA00178@CS.UTK.EDU> References: <199403062205.RAA00178@CS.UTK.EDU> Status: OR Well, for what it's worth, I have an Intel 14.4/14.4 PCMCIA modem. Works fine, so far. I haven't really pushed it too much, though. Lately I've not been travelling, and my desktop machine is leaps & bounds better than my TP. I'm using Intel's drivers. They're made by SystemSoft, and they were much much better than the 1st set of IBM's drivers. Haven't tried EasyPlay yet. Actually, with everything loaded, using DOS 6.2, I've got around 560K of mem left. Not terrific (we're so spoiled, in these days of decent memory managers -- I remember being satisfied with 490) but not bad, either, as I haven't had to use multi-boot or tweak anything by hand. I forget if this was a topic on the mailing list or the PCMCIA board... it was pointed out by someone that all this talk about 16550 or 16450 on the PCMCIA cards is interesting, but needs to be qualified -- it's all emulation, and he was wondering whether the 16550 emulation really made a difference over 16450 emulation, since it's not really hardware but software based. But, of course, it could be that I'm wrong. - Andrew From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 17:17:36 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23647 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:17:33 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA03506; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 18:04:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 18:04:40 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom10.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA03498; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 18:04:38 -0500 Received: from localhost by netcom10.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id PAA19174; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:05:32 -0800 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:03:56 -0800 (PST) From: Arie Litman Subject: TrackPoint II as joystick for games To: TP-750 List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Is there a device driver that will allow the TP-II to be used as a joystick? Arie Litman voice (408)411-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 17:45:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26933 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:45:54 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA05202; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 18:29:13 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 18:29:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA05195; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 18:29:09 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08821; Sun, 6 Mar 94 15:29:07 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17714; Sun, 6 Mar 94 15:28:14 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03256; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:28:06 +0800 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:28:06 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403062328.AA03256@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: random replies Status: OR My LCD came with 6 bad pixels - five green and one blue. I haven't had any more since (just over a month now). I rarely notice them. Perhaps the fact that my workspace background is blue/green helps. On the other hand, if I bought the machine to do photo editing, I might feel differently. > 4. Is the 486SL/33 upgradable? (e.g. 486DX2) It's not socketed, so the system board would need to be replaced. > I don't know if the XJack would have survived the fall Hypothetical at best, since I won't try it, but I'd guess that based on how little out of the TP the XJack sits, some corner or side of your TP would hit before the XJack did. It's like if you dropped the TP forward with a floppy in the drive - the TP will likely absorb the impact before the eject button gets crushed. Given the choice of the ATT cable being busted and my hypothetical scenario of the TP taking the hit to protect the XJack, I'd prefer the ATT solution. :-) > updated drivers is the IBM NSC BBS. I don't have the number right now What? It should be on your TP, and your TP should always be with you! :-) The number is +1 919 517-0001. > I don't remember which jack the TP750 has, mic or line. Both. The input jack is software selectable. I don't know how. You can probably use the same code you'd use to control a SB. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 19:33:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06409 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 19:33:16 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA10110; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 20:09:57 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 20:09:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms.macc.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA10103; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 20:09:54 -0500 Received: from VMSmail by vms.macc.wisc.edu; Sun, 06 Mar 94 19:09 CDT Message-Id: <24030619092016@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 94 19:09 CDT From: Chris Schumann Subject: IBM BBS To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Status: OR Well, I was going to connect to IBM's BBS, but decided that it wanted too much information before it would grace me with it's holy permission to access its files. I'm not a privacy nut, but who else is going to connect to their machine, and why would they want the files I need? I'll just have to call my PC Direct sales guy, I guess. chris From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 20:00:41 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08940 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 20:00:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA11767; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 20:41:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 20:41:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from galahad.watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA11749; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 20:40:48 -0500 Received: by galahad.watson.ibm.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.2.12/1.0) id AA0078; Sun, 06 Mar 94 19:26:08 -0800 Message-Id: <9403070326.AA0078@galahad.watson.ibm.com> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 19:22:55 EST From: John Reynolds Reply-To: John Reynolds To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: sevice pak for OS2/2.1 Status: OR I have just downloaded OS2 2.11 and after I have installed on the home and work computers I plan to install on the laptop. Anyone have any experience with the service pak and/or words of caution. Everything is currently working great with OS2 on the 750c, would hate to mess it up. Regards, John John Reynolds reynolds@acs.ucalgary.ca Immunology, University of Calgary phone (403) 220-4552 Calgary, Alberta, Canada fax (403) 270-7410 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 21:29:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18977 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 21:29:23 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id WAA16380; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:03:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:03:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom10.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id WAA16373; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:03:35 -0500 Received: from localhost by netcom10.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id TAA10709; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 19:04:24 -0800 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 19:02:57 -0800 (PST) From: Arie Litman Subject: Re: sevice pak for OS2/2.1 To: John Reynolds Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9403070326.AA0078@galahad.watson.ibm.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR John, the readme file in the CSD talks about the TP750. The only thing (that i remember) is a special way to install the video drivers... Check it out. Arie Litman voice (408)411-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 6 Mar 1994, John Reynolds wrote: > I have just downloaded OS2 2.11 and after I have installed on the home and work > computers I plan to install on the laptop. Anyone have any experience with the > service pak and/or words of caution. Everything is currently working great with > OS2 on the 750c, would hate to mess it up. > Regards, > John > > > > John Reynolds reynolds@acs.ucalgary.ca > Immunology, University of Calgary phone (403) 220-4552 > Calgary, Alberta, Canada fax (403) 270-7410 > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 6 21:54:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21589 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 6 Mar 1994 21:54:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id WAA18418; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:41:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:41:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gwis.circ.gwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id WAA18411; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:41:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (halinatr@localhost) by gwis.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id WAA03870; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:42:36 -0500 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:38:03 -0500 (EST) From: darren mccabe Subject: TP750 Drivers, Help? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR So I just called the IBM BBS, to download the latest video, audio and everything else drivers, and saw that it would take me 77 minutes to download the audio driver alone. (yes, I am a 2400 baud dork). Is there anyone out there that would be willing, if I mailed a formatted floppy, with a pre-addressed, stamped disk mailer, to "manually transfer" these files to me? I can't handle the thought of next months phone bill if I try and download them. I'll give ya $5....tempting, huh? 5 WHOLE dollars! Think of what you could buy! You could buy ONE KEY from a TP750CE! Any takers? I need help, but what's new? Hal ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Darren Patrick McCabe "Hal" | Mail: Halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu | |-------------------------------|------------------------------------------| | Work: Gnossos Software, Inc | School: The George Washington University | | 1625 K St, NW, Suite 410 | Graduate School of Political Management| | Washington, DC 20006 | PADI Open Water Scuba Instructor #57901 | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | "I want to decide who lives and who dies" - Crow T. Robot, MST3K | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 00:23:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06437 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 00:23:33 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id BAA25780; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 01:07:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 01:07:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jarthur.cs.hmc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id BAA25769; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 01:07:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199403070607.BAA25769@CS.UTK.EDU> Subject: Re: AT&T KIT modem -- I dropped it To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 22:06:59 PST From: "John H. Kim" In-Reply-To: ; from "Andrew A. Houghton" at Mar 6, 94 5:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR > I forget if this was a topic on the mailing list or the PCMCIA > board... it was pointed out by someone that all this talk about 16550 > or 16450 on the PCMCIA cards is interesting, but needs to be qualified > -- it's all emulation, and he was wondering whether the 16550 > emulation really made a difference over 16450 emulation, since it's > not really hardware but software based. I'm pretty sure it's hardware based. I don't have to load any software drivers for my AT&T KIT modem to work, and the difference between it and an external modem on the TP's serial port (and on an internal 16450 modem I used to use) is like night and day under OS/2. Before, downloading at timecritical priority made everything pause for about 1/3rd of a second every second. Now I can play Doom while downloading and hardly notice the difference. The reason they don't use a real 16550 is probably because the real thing is thicker than a PCMCIA card (not the silicon, the packaging). Besides, how hard can it be to integrate a 16-byte buffer (vs. 1-byte in a 16450) into your modem's silicon. Oh, OS/2 emulates the 16550 in software in DOS boxes. It doesn't do a lot of good since the interrupts have to be handled by OS/2 without emulation in order to do emulation. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 07:12:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08099 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 07:12:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id HAA25469; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 07:34:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 07:34:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hsdndev.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id HAA25462; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 07:34:08 -0500 From: Received: from warren.med.harvard.edu by jenner.med.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06820; Mon, 7 Mar 94 07:31:45 -0500 Received: from ccMail by warren.med.harvard.edu id AA763054420 Mon, 07 Mar 94 07:33:40 EST Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 07:33:40 EST Message-Id: <9402077630.AA763054420@warren.med.harvard.edu> To: jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Hello; WordPerfect 6.0; Dos. Status: OR Regarding use of Hibernation Mode, yes, I use it daily in OS/2. It works perfectly in OS/2 (I don't use PCMCIA cards yet). In DOS/Win mode, the machine awakes without the benefit of a live mouse in windows. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 08:59:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15610 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 08:59:13 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id JAA01507; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 09:11:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 09:11:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hsdndev.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id JAA01490; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 09:11:07 -0500 From: Received: from warren.med.harvard.edu by jenner.med.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07359; Mon, 7 Mar 94 09:05:46 -0500 Received: from ccMail by warren.med.harvard.edu id AA763060046 Mon, 07 Mar 94 09:07:26 EST Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 09:07:26 EST Message-Id: <9402077630.AA763060046@warren.med.harvard.edu> To: tonyng@HK.Super.NET, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: No subject given Status: OR Tony, Regarding the microphone not working with the TP750, Yep! the first mike I tried also didn't work, but another one did. Both were sold for computer/multimedia use. (fortuneately, I didn't have to buy either one, we had them for other uses). I suspect it's a mismatched impedance thing. Just try other microphones. (The one that didn't work was the multimedia handset model). Joe From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 11:51:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13245 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:50:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id KAA07356; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 10:20:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 10:20:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tink.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id KAA07339; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 10:20:34 -0500 Received: from thor.fi.gs.com by tink.com (PMDF V4.3-4 #5880) id <01H9OQX1RJ288WWJNO@tink.com>; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 10:18:03 EST Received: from paradev1 (paradev1.psd.gs.com) by gs.com (PMDF V4.2-12 #3223) id <01H9OQWQOBWW8YES90@gs.com>; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 10:17:48 EDT Received: from escher.psd.gs.com by paradev1 (4.1/Para2.1) id AA11458; Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:17:59 EST Date: Mon, 07 Mar 1994 10:17:59 -0500 (EST) From: padwad@psd.gs.com (Danny Padwa) Subject: Re: AT&T KIT modem -- I dropped it To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: padwad@gs.com Message-Id: <9403071517.AA11458@paradev1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR > I'm pretty sure it's hardware based. I don't have to load any software > drivers for my AT&T KIT modem to work, and the difference between it and > an external modem on the TP's serial port (and on an internal 16450 modem > I used to use) is like night and day under OS/2. Before, downloading at > timecritical priority made everything pause for about 1/3rd of a second > every second. Now I can play Doom while downloading and hardly notice > the difference. I've had some problems that seem to be related to this under Windows (DOS). With a MegaHertz 14.4 PCMCIA modem, I had a tremendous number of restarts, etc dowloading from IBM. My ppp software had similar problems....looks like lots of data overruns, etc. But PC/Xremote and Winfax can both seem OK! Do the MhZ modems (I forget my model number....I'll check tonight) have 16550 (or emulation or whatever?). Or am I condemned to slow downloads until I get my ISDN line (don't hold your breath)?? Danny From bruce@objy.com Mon Mar 7 12:02:09 1994 Received: from relay1.UU.NET by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15569 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:02:04 -0600 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwgfo05609; Mon, 7 Mar 94 13:02:13 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20728; Mon, 7 Mar 94 09:51:32 PST Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA21385; Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:01:58 PST Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28410; Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:00:48 PST Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:00:48 PST From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9403071800.AA28410@opus.objy.com> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: no subject (file transmission) Status: OR Sean, Have you gotten the audio to work with any games? I've got a similar setup for games and I haven't gotten audio to work in Doom, Lemmings, or Xwing. About the only thing that works is sound under Windows. What level drivers are you using? I'm using the audio diskette that came with the system, I believe it's V1.1. I realize this stuff works much better under OS/2. I do plan on installing it after I get more memory. Thanks, --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 13:06:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27349 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:06:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA22912; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:18:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:18:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA22902; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:18:14 -0500 From: Received: from buddy.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id KAA05519; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 10:18:09 -0800 Received: from localhost by buddy.ucsc.edu (8.6.4/4.7) id KAA14651; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 10:18:07 -0800 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 10:18:07 -0800 Message-Id: <199403071818.KAA14651@buddy.ucsc.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Megahertz modem Status: OR I just installed a Megahertz XJ1144 on my new TP750cs. (XJ2144 did not seem to be shipping from any of the sources I checked.) Thanks to information found here (thanks) I have it running using Easy Play and the latest version of the Thinpad utilities. Standby/resume works fine. I have three relatively minor problems. 1) I can't seem to power down COM2 using the Thinkpad power conservation software without removing the card from the socket. The PCMCIA light remains on and the modem still works, after I have supposedly turned the port off. Would the Megahertz drivers work better? Am I missing some featue of Easy Play? 2) I also have somewhat the opposite problem. After coming out of hibernate mode I can't get the modem to respond, and, when I try, Crosstalk hangs the machine. Everything works fine after I reboot. 3) Speaking of Crosstalk, does anyone know what modem emulation to use for Crosstalk 2.0? I am now using Hayes Smartmodem 14.4. In Winfax 3.0 I am simply using the generic fax modem option. Is there a better choice. I would appreciate any advice. Bob Meister From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 13:08:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27723 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:08:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA22874; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:17:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:17:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA22856; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:17:35 -0500 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 2987; Mon, 07 Mar 94 13:17:33 EST Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 1391; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:17:33 EST Received: from ganga.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 07 Mar 94 13:17:31 EST Received: by ganga.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA19453; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:17:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:17:28 -0500 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9403071817.AA19453@ganga.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 750C Trackpoint drift... Status: OR > I've noticed during the first few minutes after power up that my > trackpoint drifts a bit after I take my finger off it. After a few > minutes, this drift goes away. Is this normal? Perhaps it monitors > the first few minutes and does a calibration to compensate for > differences between the strain gauges (which is how I assume it is > implemented)? I edited the autoexec.bat per the installation > instructions to use the proper mouse driver. I've noticed at random times (not necessarily at bootup) that my cursor will start drifting slowly for no apparent reason. It always seems to cure itself within 15 seconds or so. I've always assumed that this type of recalibration was normal. --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 13:24:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00672 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:23:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA25121; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:52:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:52:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from quality.tamu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA25088; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:52:02 -0500 Received: by quality.tamu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA10136; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:50:49 -0600 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:50:49 -0600 From: joe@quality.tamu.edu (Joe Pignatiello) Message-Id: <9403071850.AA10136@quality.tamu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Brightness control on TP750 Mono Cc: joe@quality.tamu.edu Status: OR I've had my TP750 Mono, 8 MB ram for about 2 weeks now. Everything seems fine (I guess) except that the brightness control slide bar (it is located to the right of the screen, below the contrast control slide bar) doesn't appear to have much of an impact. The contrast control slide bar works fine. Is it just my machine or does everyone else experience the same? --joe ==> (joe@quality.tamu.edu or jjp@tamu.edu) Phone: (409) 862-2081 Fax: (409) 847-9005 Joseph J. Pignatiello, Jr. 236B Zachry Engineering Center Industrial Engineering, Texas A&M University, College Station, TX 77843-3131 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 13:36:44 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03363 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:36:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA25880; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:01:16 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:01:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA25873; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:01:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (postman@localhost) by po6.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id OAA06500; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:01:06 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:01:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix9.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:00:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix9.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:59:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.14.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix9.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix9.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:59:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:59:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew A. Houghton" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Brightness control on TP750 Mono Cc: joe@quality.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: <9403071850.AA10136@quality.tamu.edu> References: <9403071850.AA10136@quality.tamu.edu> Status: OR Yeah.. the brightness control, IMHO, is about as useful as tits on a boar hog (as a friend used to say). It doesn't do much of anything on my mono, either, and IBM mobile support says it doesn't do much of anything on their monos. But -- if you're on battery power, a useful trick to know is PS2 BR N (assuming you're using the dos ps2 program) which turns the brightness up, and makes the brightness control have more of an impact. You'll use up more power this way (someone on this mailing list should know how much more), but it's worth it if you're having problems reading the dim screen. - Andrew P.S. The corresponding mode for economy is PS2 BR E From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 14:31:41 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13535 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:31:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA05453; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:46:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:45:59 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA05446; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:45:57 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA04896 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:45:39 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403071945.AA04896@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: TP750CE To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:45:38 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Arie Litman" at Mar 6, 94 01:41:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I heard of rumors that IBM in Europe is providing select customers > with a TP 750E and it is the same as the "C" but with a 496/66mz... > Would like to put my hands on one of there... It is available here in the States if you're royalty or some other sort of high profile person. We apparently have one person on this list who has this model -- it's actually called a 750CE. -Sean Chou From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 14:33:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13926 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:33:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA05969; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:54:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:54:27 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA05961; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:54:26 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA06597 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:54:09 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403071954.AA06597@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Hey, Hey, Sound and Gaming? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:54:08 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "darren mccabe" at Mar 6, 94 04:36:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Ok- I just bought a Colorado (something) "Gameport" serial game adapter, > and a Flightstick. Didn't work. Took it bak, and tried a diffrent > joystick, nope. Figured I must have a non-standard serial port, so I got > the Parallel adapter, and nope. Still didn't work. Well, of all this nonstandard things we have on our TPs, I do believe that the serial and parallel ports are rather standard unless, of course, you start to use the EPP parallel port, inc which case, I've heard that you must put it on LPT2 (apparently, the CE model doesn't have recognizable EPP at all). > Also, can I get some feedback from those of you using the "Dock 1" with a > CD-ROM and whatever else you managed to cram in there (says it takes a 1 > GB hard drive..). I've heard of some nonstandard SCSI connector in there. It takes one drive and one card (I think) besides the SCSI adapator. > And once more, do you think that the audio driver will ever be updated > enough to make our sound chips truly Soundblaster compatable, or are we > stuck with the PCjr of sound...a step up, but no farther? Well, for true Soundblaster compatibility, we'd have to have it at the hardware level. I think that, given the drivers are version 1.10 (and the Soundblaster emulation is at version 1.0), it's not all _that_ bad. Hey, we could be stuck with the Windows sound system... > Finally....what are some of the 3rd party devices you have running on your > TP's aside from Modems and memory? Anyone using inventive PCMCIA's, tape > backups, external items? And is there anyone that is switching back and > forth between 2 hard drives? I think most people have a PCMCIA modem. The second most popular item on this list is a network card. I don't recall anyone having a SCSI PCMCIA or Flash RAM (though someone does have a 5MB card that he has used before with his TP). I myself want to see the Bernoulli PCMCIA drive. I also plan to get an external tape drive as soon as I see OS/2 software that will support it. Also, I'd like to get a 540MB hard drive if that becomes available. > Curious, ain't I? Hey, aren't we all? :) > P.S. one more thing, could someone kick me in the right direction for > getting the latest drivers for my little $3K wonder? I really want to > squeeze what I can out of this machine! IBM NSC is the first place to check. Someone on this list (often myself) will usually let everyone know the minute something new comes out. I also monitor CompuServe's TP conference. I think I'll start cross-posting some of the more interesting messages... -Sean Chou From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 14:33:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13995 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:33:22 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA06640; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:00:57 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:00:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA06625; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:00:51 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA07778 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:00:30 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403072000.AA07778@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: TP Toughness & Modems To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:00:30 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403062205.RAA00178@CS.UTK.EDU> from "John H. Kim" at Mar 6, 94 02:04:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Having material tested fiberglass and various metals, I tend to be more > trusting of the ruggedness of these materials. I've tossed it a few feet > onto the car seat or a couch. When its in the (Kensington) carrying case, Well, that makes me feel a little better. What model Kensington case do you have? I'm looking for a case and I've got my eyes set on the Deluxe model. It looks nice and roomy enough for some books as well as my TP. > When I called around asking about modems, only the AT&T and Practical > Peripherals gave a definite "yes" to having a 16550 UART. The PP is > supposed to be a clone of the AT&T. Nice to know the Megahertz has > joined the club. Coming from using the 16450 on the TP's serial port, > it makes a HUGE difference when multitasking under OS/2. I wasn't aware that the MHz had officially released their 16550 UART model. I'm glad though since, as you noticed, it makes a BIG difference. Especially, since I do things that bring my 16550 to it's knees while downloading.... :) > There are a couple other modems with firmware in EEPROM. Considering > the marginal cost of the PCMCIA modems, I'm surprised more full sized > modems don't use them. Then again, I suppose the modem companies wouldn't > make as much money then. I know of at least two other modems with firmware. It seems like a great idea, but let's hope that it sees some use! Most companies can still make a decent share of money by making us pay for major upgrades...and charging more initially. When I was seraching for my PCMCIA modem (not too long ago), the lowest price outside of Sparco for the KIT was around $450. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 14:35:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14553 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:35:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA06849; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:03:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:03:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA06842; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:03:03 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA08302 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:02:46 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403072002.AA08302@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Mouse speed To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:02:45 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403062208.RAA00373@CS.UTK.EDU> from "John H. Kim" at Mar 6, 94 02:07:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > What we really need is for someone to write a device driver or TSR to > make the TrackPoint II emulate a joystick, tweak the sensitivity a > little so you can make straight up/down left/right turns. Well, that might be a little too much wear and tear for the poor little thing. What I really want is a way to increase the tracking speed of the Trackpoint II under OS/2. -Sean Chou From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 14:38:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15102 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:38:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA21856; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:01:16 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:01:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA21814; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:01:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199403071801.NAA21814@CS.UTK.EDU> Via: uk.ac.kingston; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:37:44 +0000 Received: from ceres.kingston.ac.uk by mercury.kingston.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <03345-0@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:12:43 +0000 Received: from kingston.ac.uk by ceres.kingston.ac.uk id <13807-0@ceres.kingston.ac.uk>; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:10:46 +0000 From: Sergio Terenas Subject: IBM UK Customer Service... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: MMDF/Ream v4.16b Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:10:46 +0000 Original-Sender: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk Status: OR Hi everyone, I've posted a message to the list a couple of weeks ago regarding the audio drivers I was looking for. 'Someone' actually proposed to email them to me if I couldn't get them from IBM. I've phoned IBM direct and complained a bit loud today to which the lady appologized a hundred times (they always do it). In the end she said my order has been placed (it's on their computer) but the drivers are not yet available in England. Am I supposed to believe in that ? NO, of course not. My brother worked for IBM last year, in Chile, and he knows well that they can just get it from the States through their network in only five minutes. Another problem is that I'm not the only one waiting for the drivers, she said there's a whole bunch of people waiting as well... but that I'll be the first one to receive them. (Oh yes, sure). I think I just have to wait, but in the meantime I'd like to know the latest version of each of the drivers I should receive. Anyone got any idea ? Also, since the topic has been discussed recently, anyone knows where I can get an 8Mb RAM PCMCIA ? Is it possible to get it from the States to England without paying any import tax ? Thanks in advance, Sergio Terenas From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 14:42:26 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15913 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:42:24 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA07752; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:12:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:12:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA07745; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:12:12 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA09769 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:11:55 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403072011.AA09769@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: sevice pak for OS2/2.1 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:11:54 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403070326.AA0078@galahad.watson.ibm.com> from "John Reynolds" at Mar 6, 94 07:22:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR >I have just downloaded OS2 2.11 and after I have installed on the home and work >computers I plan to install on the laptop. Anyone have any experience with the >service pak and/or words of caution. Everything is currently working great with >OS2 on the 750c, would hate to mess it up. I've installed it on my TP750C. It all seems to work fine and I'm not experiencing any of the mentioned bugs. But I think that most people were having problems with S3 drivers -- mainly as a result of not reading the docs. I must add a caveat that I installed it on a fresh new copy of OS/2. It seems a little snappier as many have mentioned. I haven't checked the swap file though -- a lot of people are saying it doesn't shrink to the base level anymore. But I start mine at 10MB and it rarely goes over. -Sean Chou From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 15:19:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22991 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:19:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA11586; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:56:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:56:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA11578; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:56:14 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA18541 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:55:54 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403072055.AA18541@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Living with 16450 in Windows To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:55:53 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403071517.AA11458@paradev1> from "Danny Padwa" at Mar 7, 94 10:17:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I've had some problems that seem to be related to this under Windows (DOS). > With a MegaHertz 14.4 PCMCIA modem, I had a tremendous number of restarts, etc > dowloading from IBM. My ppp software had similar problems....looks like > lots of data overruns, etc. The original MegaHertz PCMCIA modems did not have 16550 UARTs. And with any sort of multi-tasking, you can expect over-runs, etc. with a 16450 or 8250 UART. > But PC/Xremote and Winfax can both seem OK! Well, I would imagine since those are steadier transfers and you usually watch them rather than to do something else in the foreground, that would be the difference. But then again, it could just be better, safer, protocols... > Do the MhZ modems (I forget my model number....I'll check tonight) have > 16550 (or emulation or whatever?). Or am I condemned to slow downloads > until I get my ISDN line (don't hold your breath)?? The XJ114 didn't have it but a MHz rep on our list has told us that they do now have them. You might want to see if you can get an upgrade or some sort of exchange deal. You might want to check out alternative, third party, comm drivers for Windows -- Turbocomm comes to mind. They are supposed to be leaps and bounds better. Also, don't run any DOS comm programs since Windows can't virtualize the 16550 UART to DOS sessions (although Turbocomm can). And lastly, keep it in the foreground or minimized (or both). From jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca Mon Mar 7 15:20:31 1994 Received: from epas.utoronto.ca by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23133 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:20:28 -0600 Received: by epas.utoronto.ca (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA12313; Mon, 7 Mar 94 16:09:46 -0500 From: jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca (James Cummings) Message-Id: <9403072109.AA12313@epas.utoronto.ca> Subject: Re: Autoexec & config.sys To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:09:45 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199403072112.AA21757@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> from "Sean Chou" at Mar 7, 94 03:12:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 658 Status: OR Thanks tons.. just a couple questions. (God aren't I annoying!) It has been written by the hand of Sean Chou that: >DEVICE=c:\dos\ramboost.exe load Is this IBM Dos 6.1? OR MSDos6.2? I'm using MSDOS, and couldn't get both Ramboost and Memaker to work ;-) >DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.SYS C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.INI I don't have this one. What is it for? External drive? >DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS Nor this one. What is it for, a stand alone package I assume? > >Hope those help! > Yup thank-you very much.. I'll try them a little later this evening. -JAmes jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca | 1994: Official Year of The Toronto Free-Net. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 15:26:39 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24158 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:26:37 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA11767; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:00:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:00:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from epas.utoronto.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA11742; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:59:56 -0500 Received: by epas.utoronto.ca (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA08712; Mon, 7 Mar 94 15:48:33 -0500 From: jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca (James Cummings) Message-Id: <9403072048.AA08712@epas.utoronto.ca> Subject: Re: Brightness control on TP750 Mono To: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Andrew A. Houghton) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:48:31 -0500 (EST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Think-Pad 750 Mailing list) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew A. Houghton" at Mar 7, 94 01:59:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR It has been written by the hand of Andrew A. Houghton that: > >Yeah.. the brightness control, IMHO, is about as useful as tits on a >boar hog (as a friend used to say). It doesn't do much of anything on >my mono, either, and IBM mobile support says it doesn't do much of >anything on their monos. > >But -- if you're on battery power, a useful trick to know is > >PS2 BR N (assuming you're using the dos ps2 program) > >which turns the brightness up, and makes the brightness control have >more of an impact. You'll use up more power this way (someone on this >mailing list should know how much more), but it's worth it if you're >having problems reading the dim screen. > >- Andrew > >P.S. The corresponding mode for economy is PS2 BR E I noticed in comparing the tp750 and the tp750cs (and the 750c) that the brightness control is MUCH more effective (like by 200%) on the 750cs is there any reason why they couldn't have done this on the mono as well? > > -James jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca | 1994: Official Year of The Toronto Free-Net. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 15:26:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24181 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:26:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA11749; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:59:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:59:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA11741; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:59:54 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA19465 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:59:37 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403072059.AA19465@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Games that work To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:59:36 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403071800.AA28410@opus.objy.com> from "Bruce Reed" at Mar 7, 94 10:00:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Have you gotten the audio to work with any games? I've got a similar > setup for games and I haven't gotten audio to work in Doom, Lemmings, > or Xwing. About the only thing that works is sound under Windows. I'd like to include a list of games that have been found to work with the TP in our FAQ. If everyone would send me a list of the games that work, the type of emulation supported (SB, Adlib, etc), and any tricks necessary to get it to work, I'd appreciate it. > What level drivers are you using? I'm using the audio diskette that came > with the system, I believe it's V1.1. Hmm...my TP came with the terrible v1.0 audio drivers...but I am using the more recent v1.1 drivers now. > I realize this stuff works much better under OS/2. I do plan on installing > it after I get more memory. It often works better just because so many things are already virtualized, it much easier to fool software. Also, it's nice to have close to 640K with all the emulation software loaded in already. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 15:35:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25834 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:34:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA12372; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:07:22 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:07:21 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA12365; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:07:19 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA20596 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:07:02 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403072107.AA20596@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: IBM UK Customer Service... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:07:02 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403071801.NAA21814@CS.UTK.EDU> from "Sergio Terenas" at Mar 7, 94 04:10:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I've posted a message to the list a couple of weeks ago regarding the audio > drivers I was looking for. 'Someone' actually proposed to email them to me > if I couldn't get them from IBM. I've phoned IBM direct and complained a bit > loud today to which the lady appologized a hundred times (they always do it). The best way to do it is to just recieve it via email. The disk isn't that impressive to behold anyway... :) > only five minutes. Another problem is that I'm not the only one waiting for > the drivers, she said there's a whole bunch of people waiting as well... but > that I'll be the first one to receive them. (Oh yes, sure). I've always wondered about that...how hard can it be for a company that large to copy disks, package them, and send them out. Hell, I myself just d/l 21 CSD OS/2 2.11 disk and copied them out, then put them on disk... > I think I just have to wait, but in the meantime I'd like to know the latest > version of each of the drivers I should receive. Anyone got any idea ? Video Drivers 1.20 Audio Drivers 1.10 Utilities 1.12 Monologue (don't bother) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 15:38:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26516 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:38:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA12676; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:10:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:10:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from epas.utoronto.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA12664; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:10:51 -0500 Received: by epas.utoronto.ca (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA10673; Mon, 7 Mar 94 15:59:51 -0500 From: jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca (James Cummings) Message-Id: <9403072059.AA10673@epas.utoronto.ca> Subject: [FN] keys. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Think-Pad 750 Mailing list) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:59:50 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I've now hooked up an external keyboard for my port replicator, and have a question. Is there anyway to duplicate the [FN] keys? One of the ones I specifically want to duplicate is the switching of Monitors, as well as audioup/down. I really like the trackpoint. Does anyone market an external verson for all those other laptop users..hmm though I supposeit wouldn't be as effective not on the keyboard.. oh well. Oh another note, wbrought on by the discussion of missing pixels (haven't noticed any on my mono.. but hey.. it's mono...) How should one clean the screen? I used a soft cloth designed for glasses. just curious. Tanks, James jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca | 1994: Official Year of The Toronto Free-Net. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 15:44:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27766 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:44:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA13087; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:15:43 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:15:42 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from epas.utoronto.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA13059; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:15:33 -0500 Received: by epas.utoronto.ca (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA08016; Mon, 7 Mar 94 15:44:13 -0500 From: jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca (James Cummings) Message-Id: <9403072044.AA08016@epas.utoronto.ca> Subject: Re: 750C Trackpoint drift... To: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:44:11 -0500 (EST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9403071817.AA19453@ganga.watson.ibm.com> from "Andrew Stevens" at Mar 7, 94 01:17:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR It has been written by the hand of Andrew Stevens that: > > >> I've noticed during the first few minutes after power up that my >> trackpoint drifts a bit after I take my finger off it. After a few >> minutes, this drift goes away. Is this normal? Perhaps it monitors >> the first few minutes and does a calibration to compensate for >> differences between the strain gauges (which is how I assume it is >> implemented)? I edited the autoexec.bat per the installation >> instructions to use the proper mouse driver. > >I've noticed at random times (not necessarily at bootup) that my >cursor will start drifting slowly for no apparent reason. It always >seems to cure itself within 15 seconds or so. I've always assumed >that this type of recalibration was normal. > >--andy For an explanation as to why this happens is in the trouble-shoot section of the tp750/750C users guide. 7-11. A lot of time I've noticed that it will do it if I have taken the machine out in the cold (in it's carrying case of course) and then back into a warm library. This must be one of the things it means when it says this can be caused by changes in "environmental temperature" -James jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca | 1994: Official Year of The Toronto Free-Net. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 15:50:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28880 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:50:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA14136; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:28:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:28:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA14127; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:28:15 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA24385 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:27:57 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403072127.AA24385@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Autoexec & config.sys To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:27:56 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403072109.AA12313@epas.utoronto.ca> from "James Cummings" at Mar 7, 94 04:09:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > >DEVICE=c:\dos\ramboost.exe load > > Is this IBM Dos 6.1? OR MSDos6.2? I'm using MSDOS, and couldn't > get both Ramboost and Memaker to work ;-) This is a PC-DOS 6.1 feature. MSDOS has memmaker, I believe... > >DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.SYS C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.INI > > I don't have this one. What is it for? External drive? This is part of the 1.12 utilities diskette. If you don't have it, then you should get it if you use PCMCIA at all. It makes life much easier... > >DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS > > Nor this one. What is it for, a stand alone package I assume? This is a Windows for Workgroups file. As long as you're not running it (which, BTW, if you must run DOS/Win, I would highly recommend WFW3.11), there's no need to worry. > Yup thank-you very much.. I'll try them a little later this evening. Remember to modify them accordingly. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 15:54:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29673 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:54:33 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA14524; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:31:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:31:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from epas.utoronto.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA14517; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:31:15 -0500 Received: by epas.utoronto.ca (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA14055; Mon, 7 Mar 94 16:20:22 -0500 From: jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca (James Cummings) Message-Id: <9403072120.AA14055@epas.utoronto.ca> Subject: using unit closed To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Think-Pad 750 Mailing list) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:20:21 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Just another quick question. For some, as yet unexplained, reason my tp750 seems to beep when I am using it closed. It is closed, I'm using an external monitor keyboard etc. through a port replicator. So How come every minute or two, ireggularly, it seems to beep, with no beep coming from the program? -James jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca | 1994: Official Year of The Toronto Free-Net. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 16:33:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08520 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:33:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA07284; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:07:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:07:40 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA07271; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:07:34 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA09021 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:07:17 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403072007.AA09021@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: More modems... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:07:16 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew A. Houghton" at Mar 6, 94 05:20:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Well, for what it's worth, I have an Intel 14.4/14.4 PCMCIA modem. > Works fine, so far. I haven't really pushed it too much, though. Well, that makes us owners of MegaHertz, AT&T KIT, Robotics, and Intel modems... > Lately I've not been travelling, and my desktop machine is leaps > & bounds better than my TP. Hey, hey, now. This is some of our only machines... :) > I'm using Intel's drivers. They're made by SystemSoft, and they were > much much better than the 1st set of IBM's drivers. Haven't tried > EasyPlay yet. Actually, with everything loaded, using DOS 6.2, I've > got around 560K of mem left. Not terrific (we're so spoiled, in these I got actually managed to get over 600K using the new IBM drivers. I posted my config.sys and autoexec.bat to the list. It also includes a multi-boot option for game play... > or 16450 on the PCMCIA cards is interesting, but needs to be qualified > -- it's all emulation, and he was wondering whether the 16550 > emulation really made a difference over 16450 emulation, since it's > not really hardware but software based. > > But, of course, it could be that I'm wrong. I believe that you are wrong here. The PCMCIA cards with 16550 UART "emulation" have it on the hardware level. It's not the traditional UART since it's not a serial port thus it's not the real thing. But there is a real buffer in the card and that's what makes the difference. -Sean Chou From whittle@chaph.usc.edu Mon Mar 7 18:40:00 1994 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28817 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:39:56 -0600 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA19824; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:38:45 -0800 Received: from localhost (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id QAA02380; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:38:41 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403080038.QAA02380@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Anybody got their little name plate? To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:38:41 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403072107.AA20596@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> from "Sean Chou" at Mar 7, 94 03:07:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 669 Status: OR Just curious--I have not yet received my nameplate and I sent the card in when I got the machine about 6 or more weeks ago. Has anyone else gotten theirs? > > version of each of the drivers I should receive. Anyone got any idea ? > > Video Drivers 1.20 > Audio Drivers 1.10 > Utilities 1.12 > Monologue (don't bother) Hey! I think its cute! (Not very useful, but cute!) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 18:42:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29202 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:42:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA25631; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:16:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:16:40 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms.macc.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA25623; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:16:36 -0500 Received: from VMSmail by vms.macc.wisc.edu; Mon, 07 Mar 94 18:16 CDT Message-Id: <24030718160028@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 18:16 CDT From: Chris Schumann Subject: Driver versions To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Status: OR (I know I am going to regret this, but...) With all this talk of drivers, could someone (else) collect the versions of ThinkPad device driver versions, or even archive them on an ftp site? A list that gets posted periodically, or is at a URL for downloading on demand would be great. Also, a way to check which drivers I have installed would be a nice feature to have on the list. Alas, I already have one irregulary posted list to take care of, and I hate calling IBM's BBS. Will someone step forward??? YOU, perhaps? chris From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 7 18:44:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29352 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:43:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA26027; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:24:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:24:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms.macc.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA26017; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:24:00 -0500 Received: from VMSmail by vms.macc.wisc.edu; Mon, 07 Mar 94 18:23 CDT Message-Id: <24030718232495@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 18:23 CDT From: Chris Schumann Subject: Brightness control To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Status: OR Just my $0.02. My 750P has its controls on the side (and I've already bent one of the protective ledges covering them...) but my brightness control has a very large effect on image quality. It really brightens the whites, while leaving black black. I have not tried the PS2 BR E, to see if its just stuck in the N mode. Let me try... No effect. PS2 BR has no effect on my system. I usually keep the brightness all the way down when unplugged. chris From halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu Mon Mar 7 23:18:24 1994 Received: from gwis.circ.gwu.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06665 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 23:18:22 -0600 Received: from localhost (halinatr@localhost) by gwis.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id AAA13137; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 00:20:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 00:15:43 -0500 (EST) From: darren mccabe Subject: Re: Mouse speed To: Sean Chou Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403072002.AA08302@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Actually, I was using the TPII to play NHL Hockey, and it worked fairly well, certianlly better than a mouse, but then I began to worry about jamming on it too much (Those cross-ice checks and all) and got real paranoid that I damaged it. I don't think I did, but it worried me. Anyone out there put the TPII to the stress test yet? Seems if that breaks, you have to replace the entire keyboard. Speaking of which, anyone else have the writing come off their keys yet? I've had my TP for about 3 months, and the "paint" is almost totally gone off the [right shift] key. , and is fading on the arrows and all the other keys with that yellor "paint". Anyone else? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Darren Patrick McCabe "Hal" | Mail: Halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu | |-------------------------------|------------------------------------------| | Work: Gnossos Software, Inc | School: The George Washington University | | 1625 K St, NW, Suite 410 | Graduate School of Political Management| | Washington, DC 20006 | PADI Open Water Scuba Instructor #57901 | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | "I want to decide who lives and who dies" - Crow T. Robot, MST3K | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 7 Mar 1994, Sean Chou wrote: > > What we really need is for someone to write a device driver or TSR to > > make the TrackPoint II emulate a joystick, tweak the sensitivity a > > little so you can make straight up/down left/right turns. > > Well, that might be a little too much wear and tear for the poor > little thing. > > What I really want is a way to increase the tracking speed of the > Trackpoint II under OS/2. > > -Sean Chou From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 01:41:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20413 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:41:08 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id CAA19802; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 02:04:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 02:04:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id CAA19795; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 02:04:34 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA18065 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:04:17 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403080704.AA18065@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: [FN] keys. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:04:16 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403072059.AA10673@epas.utoronto.ca> from "James Cummings" at Mar 7, 94 03:59:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I really like the trackpoint. Does anyone market an external verson > for all those other laptop users..hmm though I supposeit wouldn't be > as effective not on the keyboard.. oh well. IBM Direct has an external keyboard that has a TrackPoint II in it. I've been looking at that one for a while now and if I get a desktop, that will probably be my keyboard of choice... > (haven't noticed any on my mono.. but hey.. it's mono...) How should > one clean the screen? I used a soft cloth designed for glasses. just > curious. I just use soft cloth or my t-shirts. No problem yet... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 01:43:41 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20547 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:43:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id CAA20002; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 02:07:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 02:07:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id CAA19994; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 02:07:56 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA18267 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:07:39 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403080707.AA18267@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Anybody got their little name plate? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:07:38 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403080038.QAA02380@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Mar 7, 94 04:38:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Just curious--I have not yet received my nameplate and I sent the > card in when I got the machine about 6 or more weeks ago. > > Has anyone else gotten theirs? I got mine about two weeks ago. It's a nice little touch I think... and it has been most impressive to my friends except one who asked if it was tape stuck on.. :( > > Monologue (don't bother) > > Hey! I think its cute! (Not very useful, but cute!) Yeah, cute maybe. I would appreciate it more if the voice was more soothing -- and definately female (although I don't know how much my girlfriend would appreciate that). Also, it would be nice if someone could figure out how to get sounds under WIN-OS2. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 01:51:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20926 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:51:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id CAA20267; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 02:11:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 02:11:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id CAA20260; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 02:11:01 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA18419 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:10:44 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403080710.AA18419@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Driver versions To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:10:43 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <24030718160028@vms.macc.wisc.edu> from "Chris Schumann" at Mar 7, 94 06:15:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > With all this talk of drivers, could someone (else) > collect the versions of ThinkPad device driver > versions, or even archive them on an ftp site? John Kim and I both tried this a while ago only to come up against IBM's no-electronic distribution policy... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 01:54:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21140 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:54:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id CAA21058; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 02:25:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 02:25:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id CAA21051; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 02:25:54 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA19398 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:25:36 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403080725.AA19398@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: TPII and Keys To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:25:35 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "darren mccabe" at Mar 8, 94 00:15:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I don't think I did, but it worried me. Anyone out there put the TPII to > the stress test yet? Seems if that breaks, you have to replace the entire > keyboard. I've heard that someone broke their TPII but I don't think anyone on this list ever has. Stanley Wasserman lets his kids use his and they don't seem to ever damage it much (he also had a TP700 for a year with no problems)... > Speaking of which, anyone else have the writing come off their keys yet? > I've had my TP for about 3 months, and the "paint" is almost totally gone > off the [right shift] key. , and is fading on the arrows and all the other > keys with that yellor "paint". Yeah, my 'N' key is fading, as well as the ones you pointed out. I think it's no big deal since I'm a touch typist but for asthetics, you can always paint them back on... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 02:25:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24743 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 02:25:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id DAA22836; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 03:00:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 03:00:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jarthur.cs.hmc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id DAA22823; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 03:00:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199403080800.DAA22823@CS.UTK.EDU> Subject: Re: [FN] keys. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 0:00:20 PST From: "John H. Kim" In-Reply-To: <199403080704.AA18065@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>; from "Sean Chou" at Mar 8, 94 1:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR > > I really like the trackpoint. Does anyone market an external verson > > for all those other laptop users..hmm though I supposeit wouldn't be > > as effective not on the keyboard.. oh well. > > IBM Direct has an external keyboard that has a TrackPoint II in it. > I've been looking at that one for a while now and if I get a desktop, > that will probably be my keyboard of choice... Somebody on comp.sys.laptops just announced that IBM now has TWO such keyboards. One is the crippled keyboard w/o the numeric keypad, the other is a full blown 101-key keyboard. Both cost just shy of $200. From meister@cats.ucsc.edu Tue Mar 8 02:39:59 1994 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (cats-po-1.UCSC.EDU) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25348 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 02:39:57 -0600 Received: from buddy.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id AAA11608; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 00:40:07 -0800 From: meister@cats.ucsc.edu Received: from localhost by buddy.ucsc.edu (8.6.4/4.7) id AAA23207; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 00:40:06 -0800 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 00:40:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199403080840.AAA23207@buddy.ucsc.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: [FN] keys. Status: OR Be careful about buying the Trackpoint II external keyboard. I got one for my Gateway desktop because I found I prefer the trackpoint to the mouse. It turns out the trackpoint requires that you have a PS2 mouseport. It does not seem to work on a serial port. It turns out Logitech makes an adaptor so that you can use its PS2 mouse on a serial port. I got one, andthe Trackpoint still does not work. It works fine, however, on my kids' Dell machine, which comes with the PS2 ports. No one at IBM or Gateway seems interested in solving this problem, so I will probably end up returning the keyboard. Bob Meister From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 03:03:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26447 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 03:03:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id DAA25906; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 03:38:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 03:38:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dogwood.cs.scarolina.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id DAA25897; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 03:37:59 -0500 Received: by usceast.cs.scarolina.edu (cs.grandpoobah.030594) From: Robert Castles Message-Id: <9403080837.AA26757@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu> Subject: TP-II keyboard for PC's To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 3:37:55 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR I beleive this keyboard with the TP-II is for PS/2 type computers only. If I find that I can attach this keyboard to my ISA/EISA machine with a standard keyboard connector and use the mouse with OS/2, DOS, and Linux then I will GLADLY fork out $200. I hate mouse controllers. I hate mouse controllers! I hate mouse controllers!! :-> However, I enjoy using the TP-II as my hands do not have to leave the keyboard. castles@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 06:17:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16344 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 06:17:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id GAA01908; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 06:57:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 06:57:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id GAA01901; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 06:57:46 -0500 Received: from werple.apana.org.au by yarrina.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA06731 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 21:57:44 +1000 Received: from localhost (guardian@localhost) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA13961; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 21:57:25 +1000 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 21:56:48 +1000 (EST) From: Nick Allan Subject: ibm bbs To: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hi all I was wondering, can anyone tell me the phone number for ibm bbs? Thanks From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 06:29:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16583 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 06:29:30 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id HAA02532; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 07:08:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 07:08:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gwis.circ.gwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id HAA02503; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 07:08:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (halinatr@localhost) by gwis.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id GAA16917; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 06:07:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 06:03:35 -0500 (EST) From: darren mccabe Subject: Memory MANIAC! To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="AAA15419.763105202/gwis.circ.gwu.edu" Status: OR --AAA15419.763105202/gwis.circ.gwu.edu Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII --AAA15419.763105202/gwis.circ.gwu.edu Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Return-Path: halinatr Received: from localhost (halinatr@localhost) by gwis.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id AAA15417; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 00:39:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 00:28:03 -0500 (EST) From: darren mccabe Subject: Memory MANIAC! To: tp750@cts.utk.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Why am I such a spaz? Based on my previous post, I decided to cancel my IBM memory order and get some cheap 3rd party stuff. Called my IBM rep, she said she'd mail out the return labels right away. We'll see how fast they react when I mail it back! I got a handy-dandy Computer Shopper, read the entire thing!, and called a bunch of places today. I got so wound up that I decided to go for the 16mb upgrade, to take me to a blazing 20MB! (Like I need that much). So I found it at Alamo Components for $859..Then I called First Source, and they quoted me like $999, so I said "Ok, than.." and the person jumped out an said "Well how much were you looking to spend on it?" I said I'd found it chaper, and he lowered the price to $839. Exciting story, right? No, but humor me. I nearly spent $500 for 4MB from IBM, yet, the sole existance of this usersgroup allowed me to purchase 4 times the memory for not even twice the cost. What can I say? I will be cheking with this group before I buy anything else, and will keep everyone posted on my experiance. This group is like...well, like a really cool users group. I want you to stand up, that's right, get up out of your chair and give your self a big round of applause. You deserve iy. Yes you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Darren Patrick McCabe "Hal" | Mail: Halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu | |-------------------------------|------------------------------------------| | Work: Gnossos Software, Inc | School: The George Washington University | | 1625 K St, NW, Suite 410 | Graduate School of Political Management| | Washington, DC 20006 | PADI Open Water Scuba Instructor #57901 | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | "I want to decide who lives and who dies" - Crow T. Robot, MST3K | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --AAA15419.763105202/gwis.circ.gwu.edu-- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 08:01:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20943 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 08:01:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id IAA08009; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 08:28:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 08:28:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hk.super.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id IAA08001; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 08:28:17 -0500 Received: by hk.super.net id AA22162 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 21:28:11 +0800 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 21:28:11 +0800 From: "Mr. Tony K Ng" Message-Id: <199403081328.AA22162@hk.super.net> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi all, I also gotta problem of too less conventional memor. I remember someone getting 601K after installing those PCMCIA drivers. But I have deleted the sample config.sys file by accident. Could you please send that to me again? I need it for reference. Thanks a lot! tonyng@hk.super.net -Tony From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 10:57:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13677 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 10:57:08 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id LAA25637; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:15:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:15:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from s.psych.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id LAA25629; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:15:50 -0500 Received: from kentucky (kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu) by s.psych.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08574 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 10:15:31 -0600 Received: by kentucky (4.1/9.7) id AA06588; Tue, 8 Mar 94 10:25:46 CST From: stanwass@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu (Stanley Wasserman) Message-Id: <9403081625.AA06588@kentucky> Subject: Re: TPII and Keys and Keyboards To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 10:25:46 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403080725.AA19398@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> from "Sean Chou" at Mar 8, 94 01:25:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL2] Content-Type: text Status: OR Dear all: Sean Chou says: ---> --->> I don't think I did, but it worried me. Anyone out there put the TPII to --->> the stress test yet? Seems if that breaks, you have to replace the entire --->> keyboard. ---> --->I've heard that someone broke their TPII but I don't think anyone --->on this list ever has. Stanley Wasserman lets his kids use his --->and they don't seem to ever damage it much (he also had a TP700 for --->a year with no problems)... This is indeed true. My kids (13 and 9) have pounded away on TP keyboards. But keep in mind that these machines are laptops, not desk machines. Their keyboards are designed to be light in weight, which probably is not compatible with "sturdy" or "everlasting". I recommend to you all that if you are going to pound on the keys, that you get an external keyboard. After all, what is another $200 when you have already plunked down several big ones to buy a TP? Use the laptop keyboard only when you are "on the road". It is real easy to plug in a PS/2 external keyboard to use when you are at a desk at home. And IBM does indeed manufacture one with the wonderful little TPII. SW ---> --->> Speaking of which, anyone else have the writing come off their keys yet? --->> I've had my TP for about 3 months, and the "paint" is almost totally gone --->> off the [right shift] key. , and is fading on the arrows and all the other --->> keys with that yellor "paint". ---> --->Yeah, my 'N' key is fading, as well as the ones you pointed out. I --->think it's no big deal since I'm a touch typist but for asthetics, --->you can always paint them back on... ---> -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stanley Wasserman Professor of Psychology, University of Illinois Statistics, and Sociology Professor, Beckman Institute ****************************************************************************** stanwass@uiuc.edu * sswibm@uiucvmd.bitnet * ********************* * 217 333-3325 * 217 244-6905 * 217 244-5876 (fax) * ****************************************************************************** From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 11:18:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18276 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:18:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id LAA28701; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:52:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:52:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from epas.utoronto.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id LAA28694; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:52:26 -0500 Received: by epas.utoronto.ca (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA07418; Tue, 8 Mar 94 11:49:07 -0500 From: jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca (James Cummings) Message-Id: <9403081649.AA07418@epas.utoronto.ca> Subject: Re: TPII and Keys and Keyboards (fwd) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Think-Pad 750 Mailing list) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:49:03 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR It has been written by the hand of jcumming that: >From jcumming Tue Mar 8 11:47:49 1994 Subject: Re: TPII and Keys and Keyboards To: stanwass@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu (Stanley Wasserman) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:47:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <9403081625.AA06588@kentucky> from "Stanley Wasserman" at Mar 8, 94 10:25:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1448 It has been written by the hand of Stanley Wasserman that: >This is indeed true. My kids (13 and 9) have pounded away on TP keyboards. >But keep in mind that these machines are laptops, not desk machines. >Their keyboards are designed to be light in weight, which probably is > not compatible with "sturdy" or "everlasting". >I recommend to you all that if you are going to pound on the keys, that > you get an external keyboard. After all, what is another $200 when you > have already plunked down several big ones to buy a TP? >Use the laptop keyboard only when you are "on the road". It is real > easy to plug in a PS/2 external keyboard to use when you are at > a desk at home. >And IBM does indeed manufacture one with the wonderful little TPII. > I recently have started doing this. I just wanted to note that it is a bit of a *tight* squeeze in my case. You see I have an adapter going from a regular sized keyboard to a PS/2 keyboard. The keyboard port on my port replicator is *right* next to the video port. The two plugs are very tightly prssed against each other. because of the size of each of the plugs. *sigh* Anyways.. I'm still having this problem that my unit beeps everyonce and awhile while I'm using it closed...for absolutely no reason. Think I'll phone Ibm Canada later today and ask'em about it. -James jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca | 1994: Official Year of The Toronto Free-Net. jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca | 1994: Official Year of The Toronto Free-Net. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 15:40:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11864 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:40:31 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA17066; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:09:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:09:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA17058; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:09:36 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA05254 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:09:16 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403082109.AA05254@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: TP-II keyboard for PC's To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:09:15 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403080837.AA26757@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu> from "Robert Castles" at Mar 8, 94 03:37:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I beleive this keyboard with the TP-II is for PS/2 type computers only. No, I think you just need a PS/2 port. I wonder if IBM has a PS/2 to keyboard port adapter for it though. They have a PS/2 port to keyboard adapter for external keyboards for the TP750s... > If I find that I can attach this keyboard to my ISA/EISA machine with a > standard keyboard connector and use the mouse with OS/2, DOS, and Linux > then I will GLADLY fork out $200. I hate mouse controllers. I hate > mouse controllers! I hate mouse controllers!! :-> What are you trying to say? Do you not like mouse controllers? :) I don't think $200 is too bad -- $100 for a good keyboard and $100 for a good mouse... > However, I enjoy using the TP-II as my hands do not have to leave the > keyboard. I'm addicted to it. I look for TPII when on any machine nowadays and mice just seem so bothersome... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 15:41:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12004 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:41:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA16847; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:06:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:06:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA16830; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:06:51 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA04807 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:06:33 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403082106.AA04807@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Keyboard w/ TPII To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:06:32 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403080840.AAA23207@buddy.ucsc.edu> from "meister@cats.ucsc.edu" at Mar 8, 94 00:39:52 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Be careful about buying the Trackpoint II external keyboard. > I got one for my Gateway desktop because I found I prefer the > trackpoint to the mouse. It turns out the trackpoint requires > that you have a PS2 mouseport. It does not seem to work on I've always been a big supporter of the PS2 port myself though. I think it's so much handier than having to have to use a serial port for the mouse... That leaves the question of what to do with the regular keyboard port though... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 15:41:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12044 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:41:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA17612; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:17:30 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:17:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA17599; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:17:24 -0500 Received: from [128.120.18.112] by ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (8.6.5/UCD2.50) id MAA08186; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 12:47:05 -0800 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 12:47:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199403082047.MAA08186@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: sztarkin@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Randal Whittle From: bktarkington@ucdavis.edu (Brian K. Tarkington) Subject: Re: Anybody got their little name plate? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR > Just curious--I have not yet received my nameplate and I sent the >card in when I got the machine about 6 or more weeks ago. > > Has anyone else gotten theirs? > > I ordered mine in mid Nov. and received it about two months later. It is a nice touch, and fit well in the little indentation made for it. Brian K. Tarkington University of California at Davis bktarkington@ucdavis.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 15:44:23 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12496 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:44:19 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA17221; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:12:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:12:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA17213; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:12:08 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA05762 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:11:50 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403082111.AA05762@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: IBM NSC BBS number To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:11:49 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Nick Allan" at Mar 8, 94 09:56:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Okay all, here's the number for IBM NSC BBS. Please write it down! You should be ashamed of not having it if you don't! :) IBM NSC BBS (919)517-0001 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 16:00:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15643 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:00:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA19088; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:31:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:31:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA19080; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:31:30 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA09928 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:31:11 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403082131.AA09928@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: TP750CE To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:31:09 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403081743.JAA05768@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Mar 8, 94 09:42:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > Could be...but are you sure you're not thinking of the 700s with > > that funky IBM SLC2/50 CPU? > > Nope--just a normal Intel 50 MHz DX2. Its only slightly faster than > a 33 (and in some cases, not *as* fast)--frankly, I don't see the point. (By > the way, the IBM version was, IMO, a good chip!) Well, a DX2/50 isn't really worth it then. I prefer a 33 or DX2/66. I guesss the SLC2/50 was okay. I've never really run it but it had decent benchmarks. I hope that IBM can develop an upgrade for our TPs...I'd hate to see it go obsolete too soon... > Oh....yuck. I'm sorry to hear that. Ami Pro iss my word processor > of choice (under Windows)--to have a rotten OS/2 version is *not* good... Yeah, Ami Pro is my fav word processor too. Although I am impressed by Word 6.0 (even with all it's bugs) and WordPerfect 6.0. Both of them show quite some work and polish. I am eagerly awaiting Lotus' next version. As to the rotten OS/2 version, I guess we have to remember that they wrote it from ground up and it'll take a bit to catch up, but Lotus has pledged to keep the OS/2 and Windows versions as close as possible... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 16:06:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16704 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:06:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA19573; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:37:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:37:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from quality.tamu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA19561; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:37:07 -0500 Received: by quality.tamu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13755; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:35:51 -0600 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:35:51 -0600 From: joe@quality.tamu.edu (Joe Pignatiello) Message-Id: <9403082135.AA13755@quality.tamu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Communications/FAX Software Cc: joe@quality.tamu.edu Status: OR What communications/FAX software packages are TP750'ers using and recommending for use with DOS/Windows? --joe PS: For what it's worth, I just got my AT&T KIT modem --from Sparco-- and it did not have the connector: it was the "2-piece" version. ==> (joe@quality.tamu.edu or jjp@tamu.edu) Phone: (409) 862-2081 Fax: (409) 847-9005 Joseph J. Pignatiello, Jr. 236B Zachry Engineering Center Industrial Engineering, Texas A&M University, College Station, TX 77843-3131 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 17:19:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00763 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 17:19:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id RAA24853; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 17:55:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 17:55:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id RAA24845; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 17:55:53 -0500 Received: from [128.120.18.112] by ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (8.6.5/UCD2.50) id OAA23827; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 14:28:04 -0800 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 14:28:04 -0800 Message-Id: <199403082228.OAA23827@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: sztarkin@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: bktarkington@ucdavis.edu (Brian K. Tarkington) Subject: PORT CARRYING CASES Status: OR About a month ago I asked for recommendations on carrying cases. I had the Port literature. I got their number (800-242-3133) from the "Thank you's from ThinkPad". Also Randal Whittle (the self described chocolate and motorcycle freak) of this group suggested Port. At the time, however, I was leaning toward Targus. After looking at the Targus cases, I was not impressed by their quality or the protection they provided. So I ordered a Port 886X (black leather for that ostentatious power look that I crave). This case is outstanding! Pictures don't do them justice. I am sure the hardware could be certified for use on the space shuttle. It has a neat suspension system which cradles and protects the TP from mechanical shock. Everything fits beautifully. The person I spoke with at Port was totally into case design, and he discussed features for about 30 min. Like the TP750, the details of these cases are extremely well designed. They are offered at a considerable discount, and the non-leather models can be purchased for around $150. The only disadvantage of which I am aware is that these cases are a little heavier than other soft cases. But I think it is a reasonable trade off for the added protection. They might also attract thieves, but this is true of any laptop stuff. Brian K. Tarkington University of California at Davis bktarkington@ucdavis.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 17:35:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03573 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 17:35:43 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA25347; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 18:02:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 18:02:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA25338; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 18:02:53 -0500 Received: from [128.120.18.112] by ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (8.6.5/UCD2.50) id OAA25611; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 14:40:11 -0800 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 14:40:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199403082240.OAA25611@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: sztarkin@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Sean Chou From: bktarkington@ucdavis.edu (Brian K. Tarkington) Subject: Re: AmiPro Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Sean Chou wrote: > >Yeah, Ami Pro is my fav word processor too. Although I am impressed >by Word 6.0 (even with all it's bugs) and WordPerfect 6.0. Both of >them show quite some work and polish. I am eagerly awaiting Lotus' >next version. > >As to the rotten OS/2 version, I guess we have to remember that >they wrote it from ground up and it'll take a bit to catch up, but >Lotus has pledged to keep the OS/2 and Windows versions as close >as possible... I have the "rotten" OS/2 version, and it is really not that bad. It needs a few fixes, but it really is an excellent word processor. I think its problems have been blown out of proportion. Brian K. Tarkington University of California at Davis bktarkington@ucdavis.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 18:18:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10452 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 18:18:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA28462; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 18:51:35 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 18:51:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id SAA28453; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 18:51:30 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27683; Tue, 8 Mar 94 15:51:27 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20172; Tue, 8 Mar 94 15:50:30 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA05268; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:50:18 +0800 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:50:18 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403082350.AA05268@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: new 750 BIOS available Status: OR FYI. Now on the IBM BBS and on Compuserve. ..bob ThinkPad 750 family System Program Service Diskette V1.04 3/01/94 The following is a list of problems fixed by the System Program Service Diskette version 1.04: - Support added for TV Tuner option (750C only). - Intermittent OS/2 hang at the first FDD access following wake-up from hibernation. - Intermittent 199FE error upon wake-up from hibernation. - Suspend mode entered sooner than the specified System Off Timer value. - Intermittent 19929 error upon resume. - Excessive screen flicker after resume (750Cs only). - Video problems on externally attached ISO monitor (750Cs only). - Diagnostic long run erroneously reports a 5016 error (750Cs only). - The external CRT attached to the Dock I goes blank after the Operating System is started or resumed when the 750's lid is closed. - System hang by using ROM free Area E000-E6FF described in ROM. Correct range (E000-E5FF in this version) is indicated in the area. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 8 18:28:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11401 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 18:28:30 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA28971; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 19:06:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 19:06:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms.macc.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA28962; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 19:06:00 -0500 Received: from VMSmail by vms.macc.wisc.edu; Tue, 08 Mar 94 18:05 CDT Message-Id: <24030818052391@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 18:05 CDT From: Chris Schumann Subject: Re: Nameplate To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Status: OR Yup, got mine a while back. It took ~8 weeks to arrive. It came with a lifetime warranty, too. chris (who used his Citibank card to buy the ThinkPad even after he found out their "Lifetime Warranty" for computers is one year) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 9 08:53:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08044 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 9 Mar 1994 08:53:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id JAA24046; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 09:19:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 09:19:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hsdndev.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id JAA24039; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 09:19:50 -0500 From: Received: from warren.med.harvard.edu by jenner.med.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26414; Wed, 9 Mar 94 09:16:54 -0500 Received: from ccMail by warren.med.harvard.edu id AA763233513 Wed, 09 Mar 94 09:18:33 EST Date: Wed, 09 Mar 94 09:18:33 EST Message-Id: <9402097632.AA763233513@warren.med.harvard.edu> To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Anybody got their little name plate? Status: OR >>Monologue (don't bother) > Hey! I think its cute! (Not very useful, but cute!) Actually, found a couple of good uses for Monologue. I had it read two columns of numbers I had just keyed in to check while I looked at the source to check for typos. The monolgue for windows thru DDE control provides an outstanding way to grab the users attention with His or Her name, followed by a message that may not be determinable before run time (otherwise, just record a WAV file with an admittedly easier to understand voice). I wrote a program that paces me with may name and the current time (spoken) at setable intervals. Very helpful in some deadline situations to stay on track. It depends on the activity you're pacing, of course. Sometimes, I have sayfile.bat read me text sections when I'm having trouble concentrating. I'll admit that the speech quality is only pretty good, Nevertheless, in certain applications, MONOLOGUE is definitely useful. (Just like sVGA in 256 colors is more ~USEFUL~ than black-and-white CGA). Comments? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 9 10:33:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23322 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 9 Mar 1994 10:33:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id KAA01378; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 10:56:13 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 10:56:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id KAA01369; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 10:56:07 -0500 Received: from client1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de by rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de (AIX 3.1/UCB 5.61/4.03) id AA19210; Wed, 9 Mar 94 16:54:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 16:55:45 +0100 (MEZ) From: "Dr.M.Bruewer" Subject: IBM-Ethernet-Card To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hi everyone, today I've got my IBM-ethernet-pcmcia adaptor. However, I can't figure out how to install the device drivers. The install routine doesn't mention any IBM notebook. The label on the driver disk says it's from 1992. Is there a newer one with drivers for TP750 / OS2? Thanks, Michael Dr. Michael Bruewer Rechenzentrum (620) Universitaet Hohenheim 70593 Stuttgart Germany From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 9 13:17:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27033 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 9 Mar 1994 13:17:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA13125; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 13:42:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 13:42:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA13110; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 13:42:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199403091842.NAA13110@CS.UTK.EDU> Via: uk.ac.kingston; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 16:15:08 +0000 Received: from ceres.kingston.ac.uk by mercury.kingston.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <15865-0@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 16:14:56 +0000 Received: from kingston.ac.uk by ceres.kingston.ac.uk id <16045-0@ceres.kingston.ac.uk>; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 16:13:06 +0000 From: Sergio Terenas Subject: monologue To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: MMDF/Ream v4.16b Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 16:13:06 +0000 Original-Sender: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk Status: OR I tried emailing jbormel@warren.med but my message bounced back. If you're reading this please check your address... > Actually, found a couple of good uses for Monologue. I'd love to have a copy of it but unfortunately IBM is delaying it for ever... But I'll get it sometime. > I wrote a program that paces me with may name and the > current time (spoken) at setable intervals. Very helpful > in some deadline situations to stay on track. It depends > on the activity you're pacing, of course. I assumed it is a DOS based program since you run it from a .bat file. Do you know where I can get the information on how to program the speaker ? The only tools I have so far (from IBM) to play music is Microsoft Windows to play .WAV files through the media player or sound recorder. What language did you use ? Any libraries ? I'd be very interested in seeing a copy of your program that keeps reminding the user about the time and name. Could you uuencode the .exe and send it to me or post it to the mailing list ? I think asking for the source would be a bit too much woudn't it ??? :) Being a final year computer science student makes you look at source and play with it rather than dis-assemble the .exe. :) Thanks in advance, Sergio Terenas From Chuck.McManis@firstperson.com Wed Mar 9 13:19:15 1994 Received: from Sun.COM by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27465 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 9 Mar 1994 13:19:04 -0600 Received: from FirstPerson.COM (rampart.EBay.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA08448; Wed, 9 Mar 94 11:19:15 PST Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by FirstPerson.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21907; Wed, 9 Mar 94 11:19:01 PST Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07992; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:18:07 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA10456; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:19:57 +0800 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:19:57 +0800 From: Chuck.McManis@firstperson.com (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9403091919.AA10456@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: I'm new X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 507 Status: OR >> 1. Does anyone know where I can find a cheep pcmcia network adapter of >> some kine? I've got my two desktops linked using lantastic and I want to >> add the tp750 in. > >If you find any, let me know! :) In the U.S. of A. 3Com is running a promotion on their Etherlink III PCMCIA card. Qty 1 is $99. Call them at 1-800-638-3266. I've ordered one but don't have it yet, when it arrives I'll let everyone know if it works any better with the card/socket services than the XIRCOM one does. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 9 13:25:41 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28846 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 9 Mar 1994 13:25:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA13939; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 13:56:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 13:56:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA13930; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 13:55:57 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA02506; Wed, 9 Mar 94 10:55:54 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16672; Wed, 9 Mar 94 10:54:53 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA05840; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 10:54:45 +0800 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 10:54:45 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403091854.AA05840@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: new 750 BIOS available In-Reply-To: <9403091059.AA23205@Sun.COM> References: <9403091059.AA23205@Sun.COM> Status: OR > Can you please email me the disk since I haven't access to compu$erve ? IBM license restrictions prohibit me (or anyone else) from redistributing the disk. I don't have an compuserve account either. I called IBM's BBS in North Carolina USA. I realize this is going to cost you some money. It cost me money too. :-) You might call your local IBM service center and tell them you want the IBM Thinkpad 750 System Disk 1.04. They'll probably tell you they don't know what you're talking about, or that they haven't received it yet. But you can tell them it's available on CompuServe and on IBM's BBS at 1 919 517 0001. And bug them to make it available via the Internet. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 9 14:58:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20119 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 9 Mar 1994 14:58:53 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA22700; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 15:34:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 15:34:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA22693; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 15:34:46 -0500 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwgni06154; Wed, 9 Mar 94 15:33:19 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02678; Wed, 9 Mar 94 12:22:26 PST Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA14449; Wed, 9 Mar 94 12:33:00 PST Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12848; Wed, 9 Mar 94 12:31:39 PST Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 12:31:39 PST From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9403092031.AA12848@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 3Com Etherlink III (Was: I'm new) Status: OR > >> 1. Does anyone know where I can find a cheep pcmcia network adapter of > >> some kine? I've got my two desktops linked using lantastic and I want to > >> add the tp750 in. > > > >If you find any, let me know! :) > > > In the U.S. of A. 3Com is running a promotion on their Etherlink III > PCMCIA card. Qty 1 is $99. Call them at 1-800-638-3266. I've ordered > one but don't have it yet, when it arrives I'll let everyone know if > it works any better with the card/socket services than the XIRCOM one > does. What kind of connector is on the $99 version? BNC, 10Base-T, or both? I think the IBM card is pretty cheap too. I've seen it for as low as $150, but it was a few months ago and I can't remember where. --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 9 15:12:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22918 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 9 Mar 1994 15:12:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA23912; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 15:49:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 15:48:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id PAA23901; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 15:48:56 -0500 Received: from FirstPerson.COM (rampart.EBay.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA29324; Wed, 9 Mar 94 12:48:45 PST Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by FirstPerson.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23540; Wed, 9 Mar 94 12:48:32 PST Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA08171; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 12:47:42 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA10698; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 12:49:32 +0800 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 12:49:32 +0800 From: Chuck.McManis@firstperson.com (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9403092049.AA10698@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, bruce@objy.com Subject: Re: 3Com Etherlink III (Was: I'm new) X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: OR The $99 card is 10BaseT they have one for $129 that connects to TBaseT or BNC or AUI connectors. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 10 10:14:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13968 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Mar 1994 10:14:53 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id KAA25458; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 10:35:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 10:35:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from emory.mathcs.emory.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id KAA25446; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 10:35:14 -0500 Received: from labrep.mathcs.emory.edu by emory.mathcs.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_mathcs.3.4.19) via SMTP id AA27409 ; Thu, 10 Mar 94 10:35:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 10:35:12 -0500 From: solomon@mathcs.emory.edu (Michael Solomon) Message-Id: <9403101535.AA27409@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: display problems X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: OR Greetings, I have a TP750C with 340MB drive, 12MB RAM, Apex Data 14.4 modem and an IBM Token-Ring 16/4 card. I use the 750 for developing marketing demo software for our MXP product (formerly Varnet). I run our demo as well as Microsoft Office, MS-DOS 6.2 w/dblspace and MS-Windows 3.1. I have a few questions. I would appreciate any help. 1) I have loaded the video drivers per the manual, but I cannot get any resolution higher than 640x480. I have run windows setup several times and I see the 'ThinkPad 750' options for 800x600 and 1024x768. How do I get higher resolution in MS-Windows? 2) Is there a way to load the Sound Blaster emulator driver into high memory? I have Falcon 3.04 loaded, but better sound would be nice. When I load the emulator, to little memory is left over for Falcon to run. 3) What are the options for attaching a joystick to the 750? I have the Colorado Spectrum Game Port, but I would like to know about other options. 4) What are the basic specs on the CPU? How does this CPU compare to other 486's? Thanks in advance, Michael Solomon, MAPICS XP Product Group Manager Marcam Corporation, Atlanta, GA Internet: solomon@mathcs.emory.edu BITNET: solomon@emory.bitnet UUCP: {rutgers,gatech}!emory!solomon From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 10 13:23:44 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21990 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Mar 1994 13:23:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA10249; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 13:57:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 13:57:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id NAA10241; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 13:57:48 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA26922 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 10:57:38 -0800 Received: from localhost (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id KAA08573 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 10:57:34 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403101857.KAA08573@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Nameplate To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 10:57:33 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Okay folks--after I whined and complained just a few days ago about not yet receiving my free ThinkPad engraved nameplate--it came today in the mail! And *yes* I was looking forward to it--I happen to think it not only looks nice, but it sort of fills the little "hole" at the front of the machine designed for it. Now I am fulfilled... ;) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 10 16:22:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04111 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:22:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA23550; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:52:43 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:52:42 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA23389; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:51:39 -0500 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwgrf07566; Thu, 10 Mar 94 16:49:09 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05673; Thu, 10 Mar 94 13:25:35 PST Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA10550; Thu, 10 Mar 94 13:36:14 PST Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16939; Thu, 10 Mar 94 13:34:47 PST Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 13:34:47 PST From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9403102134.AA16939@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Aaargh! IBM hasn't changed. Status: OR I installed OS/2 on my system a few days ago. On doing so, I selected SVGA video support as instructed and set my external video for the 1024x768 hires mode. All seemed okay, but when I actually start using the system I can't run any Windows programs under Win/OS2. In seamless mode they exhibit that "hang" behavior that seems pretty common in OS/2 if the session parms aren't set properly. Under full screen Win/OS2, I get an application error in WINSHELD.EXE, something that OS/2 seems to be adding to the SYSTEM.INI. So I figure for a $5K machine is worth a little support from IBM, right? I first try the Personal Systems hotline and they tell me it's OS/2's problem and I should call the Austin hotline. (Assuming of course I've purchased a new copy of OS/2 that's eligible for support.) I do that and after wading through and endless array of VRU prompts and waiting 20 minutes I finally get to talk to level 1 support. They come up with the brilliant solution of reinstalling Win/OS2. Being the idiot that I am, I do this and at the end I get an error about the hardware not being able to support SVGA. Hmmm, I figure I can ignore this and I reboot the system. Except now my system won't come up! After loading all of the device drivers it emits a loud buzzing sound and hangs with the speaker LED blinking on and off. AAARGH!! I call IBM back and they suggest trying the install shell trick to run SETVGA. This fails complaining it can't find a file and I'm right back where I started. Now I'm in the process of completely reinstalling OS/2 from scratch. I don't want to berate IBM tech support in general because they've helped me in the past on other problems, but in this particular case they were totally incompetent and useless. They made no effort to diagnose the problem and I'm pissed that the Personal Systems group wants no part in supporting "non-preloaded software." They've cost me a lotta time here and most likely I'll have the same problem once I finish reinstalling OS/2. The one interesting fact I got out of the whole session was that OS/2 support claims the hires external modes will not work under WinOS2. They in fact believed that my problem was a result of setting my external mode to hires, but I think this is a crock. I complained that the least they can do is provide a properly working hires driver for THEIR OS running on THEIR notebook and they said "we're working on it." Has anyone had similar nightmares trying to get OS/2 to work? --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 10 16:31:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06473 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:31:07 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA23432; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:52:13 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:52:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id QAA23376; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:51:02 -0500 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwgrf07335; Thu, 10 Mar 94 16:48:34 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05688; Thu, 10 Mar 94 13:33:06 PST Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA10570; Thu, 10 Mar 94 13:43:44 PST Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17101; Thu, 10 Mar 94 13:42:17 PST Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 13:42:17 PST From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9403102142.AA17101@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Squashed display Status: OR (I'll try to keep this one a bit shorter :-) I'm not sure what I did to cause this, but I notice that the text mode in both DOS and OS/2 now has a compressed display, with a large band of ununsed display on the top and bottom. Is this "squashed" effect something that's configurable via setup? --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 10 19:17:36 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05034 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:17:30 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA05493; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:45:29 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:45:27 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id TAA05383; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:43:58 -0500 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwgrq04012; Thu, 10 Mar 94 19:40:50 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06153; Thu, 10 Mar 94 16:29:50 PST Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA11703; Thu, 10 Mar 94 16:40:29 PST Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19147; Thu, 10 Mar 94 16:39:02 PST Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 16:39:02 PST From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9403110039.AA19147@opus.objy.com> To: SCHUMANN@macc.wisc.edu Subject: Re: Squashed display Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR > Well, Bruce, my display in text mode > always has the bands. 25 and 50-line modes both > have unused bands. > > I think this is normal, as I have seen it on other > brands of portables as well. Yea, it turns out I had been using the vertical expansion option and this was filling out the rest of the display. That mode produced somewhat jagged characters though and I think I prefer the "letterbox" effect over that. --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 10 19:42:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08092 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:42:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA07899; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:21:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:21:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nic.hookup.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id UAA07891; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:21:53 -0500 Received: from vetter.hookup.net (vetter.hookup.net [198.133.162.55]) by nic.hookup.net (8.6.6.Beta11/1.121) with SMTP id UAA18637; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:21:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:21:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199403110121.UAA18637@nic.hookup.net> X-Sender: vetter@hookup.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: vetter@hookup.net (Tim Vetter) Subject: Mono screen damage, mouse trails, & modems. X-Mailer: Status: OR Greetings: Six days now since I bought my TP750, and I'm generally pretty happy with her (seems to have a female persona, this sleek black box, any contrary impressions?). A few comments and questions though for the friendly folks of the user group: 1. BEWARE SCREEN DAMAGE A warning that the LCD panel appears to be *very* poorly protected on its backside. I packed my TP (mono screen) in a leather Samsonite notebook case for a transatlantic flight, and in the course of what seemed to be routine airport/airplane jostling, I somehow damaged the screen. Symptom: a splash of opaque orange colour, irregular in shape and about 1/2-inch in diameter, that over the course of two days bled outward into a 1-1/2-inch diameter blotch that's mostly transluscent but has a 30-40 opaque flecks each of which masks an area of 5-200 square pixels. Looks exactly like someone flung a brush of bright orange paint at the LCD panel then put the glass layer over top (note that the colour's only visible when the screen is lit.) The screen's still readable though sometimes I have to scroll a bit to get a clear view of extremely small-font text. Pretty annoying. In hindsight, it's clear that I was foolish to put the TP in an outside pocket of the carry bag, with the screen side outward no less. Obviously it took a hit and, I guess, some liquid crystal leaked up under the glass. But I've beaten around other portables a hell of a lot more and never suffered any such screen damage. Moral: BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR TP750's, GANG! They're delicate! I'd be interested to hear whether anyone else has experienced such a problem, or if the LCD-aware among you know whether a fix can be attempted. Also, if anyone's considering a screen upgrade, perhaps we can cut a deal for your old mono or passive-colour screen. Or does IBM keep the old ones?? 2. MY MOUSE POINTER IS HARD TO SEE Should the IBM-supplied VGA drivers support "mouse trails"? The MS-Windows mouse pointer (and the cursors) are sometimes extremely difficult to see on my mono screen. On other LCD portables I have been able to select the "mouse trails" option in the mouse dialog box of the Windows control panel, to give persistent pointer trails that are a hell of a lot easier to see than the default. For some reason, this option is blanked out on my TP, and I assume it is a peculiarity of the IBM Windows VGA driver. Have others found this to be the case? If so, are there any Windows utilities available, either commercially or on the Net, that enhance the visibility of the mouse pointer/cursor? 3. COMM SETUP USING GVC 14.4 PCMCIA FAXMODEM Just a quick note on my communication setup for anyone who cares. Running a GVC PCMCIA 14.4 faxmodem, loading GVC's PCMCIA driver in my autoexec, don't use any of the IBM drivers. Replaced Windows comm driver with COMM56.DRV, a freeware com port driver enhancement (I forget where I got it; an Archie search should turn in up if anyone's interested). So far done terminal sessions and ZModem transfers under Procomm Plus for Windows, and compressed SLIP sessions under Peter Tattam's Trumpet Winsock, all at 14.4 LAP-M across the Atlantic, and everything's worked, glitchless, right out of the box. If there are other users of the GVC unit, I'd be interested to correspond with them about initialization strings and the like. (By the way, I believe GVC's just a repackager: anyone know who actually makes their PCMCIA 14.4 card for them?). Thanks all, and happy ThinkPadding. Tim -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Vetter vetter@hookup.net 73 Warren Road voice 519-579-9904 Kitchener, Ontario fax 519-571-9520 N2M 4T6 Canada -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 10 20:55:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18545 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:55:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA12203; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 21:32:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 21:32:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA12195; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 21:32:50 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA15313 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:32:33 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403110232.AA15313@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Time and shareware To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:32:32 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403090152.RAA23679@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Mar 8, 94 05:51:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Actually, my audio drivers came just a short few days after my > SuperStor did. Really? When did you get them? and when did you send out for them? I sent out for the Audio drivers in October of last year...and didn't get them till relatively recently. I sent out for SuperStor around Novemeber and got it about a week later... > Got something against shareware? ;) Not at all! I love it and even code myself! But it's hard to compare against the corporate work -- sometimes, there is shareware that is done by teams. But I did say home hobbyists..and, for the most part, those programs fill in the little niches that need to be filled in... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 10 20:55:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18582 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:55:33 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA12490; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 21:36:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 21:36:35 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id VAA12483; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 21:36:33 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA15848 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:36:16 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403110236.AA15848@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: CPUs and OS/2 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:36:15 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403090157.RAA24611@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Mar 8, 94 05:57:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Just yesterday I think, Intel announced a 90 MHz Pentium and a 100 > MHz (well, maybe 99) clock-tripled 486 (based at 33 MHz). But get this-- > they are calling the 486-33/99 a DX4! The rationale is that it is their > "4th generation" 486 chip--the DX being the first, DX2 being the second, > the SL's being the 3rd. So that little number "2" after "DX" didn't mean > "2 times" after all! ;) I've head the same old stuff from them. I think they named it the DX4 to usurp IBM's DX3s... It's all a numbers game... > While I am very much impressed with Word 6.0 for Win, WordPerfect > version 6.0 simply isn't that amazing. I think WordPerfect is getting--well, > tired. Too bad Word 6.0 is buggy. I lost a lot of work to it once... I've never been a WordPerfect user but I liked what I saw in 6.0. It seems to be getting with the GUI program better... > Good--then when/if I should actually make the jump (instead of > soaking my feet in the water), I can be assured that the OS/2 version won't > freak me out... All it takes is Chicago to be released. Then everyone can finally make their decisions! Of course, OS/2 3.0 will be out by then... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 15 10:42:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25725 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:42:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id LAA05139; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 11:16:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 11:16:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id LAA05085; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 11:15:56 -0500 Received: from filtroni.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa06656; 15 Mar 94 13:41 GMT From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: tp750Introduction Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 13:35:39 GMT Message-Id: <9403151335.aa02845@lopass.filtronic.com> X-Status: A Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST address -- don't just reply to this message!) OK. I have a 750C2D with 340Mb disk, 12Mb RAM. I did want a TFT screen but they can't be had for love or money here (I ordered in November 93, latest delivery date "maybe in the Autumn"). I run OS/2 mainly, though the sound doesn't work yet (driver disk only had Windows stuff). I also have a PCMCIA modem (failed the Dos diagnostics on arrival, works under OS/2, but now sent back for replacement). On order a 10Base-T network card (also no delivery date given). So, it's not bad for starters. Well, actually it is, but apart from that, it's not bad. Ho hum. Regards, Mike. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 15 10:42:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25787 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:42:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id LAA05234; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 11:17:47 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 11:17:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id LAA05225; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 11:17:44 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA16453 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:17:41 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Oops! Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 07:54:01 -0500 Message-Id: Lines: 14 X-Status: R Well, it seems as if I deleted all my mail for the past day or two in my attempt to successfully set up Yarn and UQWK. The good news is... if you're reading this, I'm getting through. Anyway, all mail for the 13th to the 15th will be lost unless anyone can send me a copy. I'd really appreciate it. Also, I did scan through my mail before losing it. I noticed that someone left due to feeling that "certain" people (I wonder who?) talk too much. Well, I hate to see people leaving with bad feelings. So, if you have any complaints, please voice them! And, if they're about me, still voice them! Hey, what's the Internet without _some_ flames? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 15 14:17:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23951 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:17:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA21445; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:52:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:52:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from genesis.ait.psu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (8.6.4/2.8s-UTK) id OAA21432; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:52:16 -0500 Received: from [128.118.73.4] (ppp4.cac.psu.edu) by genesis.ait.psu.edu with SMTP id AA20627 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:52:03 -0500 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:52:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Rick Andrew" Sender: wpa@psu.edu Message-Id: <53537.wpa@email.psu.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Enabling 32 bit access in Windows on Thinkpad X-Status: A Has anybody tried enabling 32 bit access in Windows? Any problems? I am planning on using Windows for Workgroups and wonder if there is any conflict between the Thinkpad power management features and the 32 bit file and disk access routines. It would sure be nice if there wasn't. Any comments would be appreciated. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WPA@psu.edu Rick Andrew <*> HRI Finance WPA@psuvm.psu.edu Penn State Univ 814-863-0272 University Park, PA 16802 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 15 18:36:36 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09469 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 15 Mar 1994 18:36:30 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA10963; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 19:15:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 19:15:35 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (8.6.7/2.8s-UTK) id TAA10948; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 19:15:33 -0500 From: Received: from buddy.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with ESMTP id QAA03329; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 16:15:33 -0800 Received: by buddy.ucsc.edu (8.6.7/4.7) id QAA21756; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 16:15:31 -0800 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 16:15:31 -0800 Message-Id: <199403160015.QAA21756@buddy.ucsc.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, wpa@psu.edu Subject: Re: Enabling 32 bit access in Windows on Thinkpad X-Status: R For what it is worth, tech support told me that 32 bit access in Windows is not compatible with the TP750 series. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 16 00:00:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19194 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 00:00:07 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA05288; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 00:44:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 00:44:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA05281; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 00:44:36 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA16203; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 21:44:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id VAA16388; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 21:44:41 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403160544.VAA16388@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Enabling 32 bit access in Windows on Thinkpad To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 21:44:41 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403160015.QAA21756@buddy.ucsc.edu> from "meister@cats.ucsc.edu" at Mar 15, 94 04:15:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: R > > For what it is worth, tech support told me that 32 bit access in > Windows is not compatible with the TP750 series. Whoever you talked to at IBM Tech support needs better training. It works perfectly. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 16 00:00:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19210 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 00:00:08 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA05257; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 00:43:54 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 00:43:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA05246; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 00:43:47 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA16160; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 21:43:46 -0800 Received: from localhost (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id VAA16188; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 21:43:38 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403160543.VAA16188@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Enabling 32 bit access in Windows on Thinkpad To: wpa@psu.edu (Rick Andrew) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 21:43:37 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <53537.wpa@email.psu.edu> from "Rick Andrew" at Mar 15, 94 02:52:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: A > > Has anybody tried enabling 32 bit access in Windows? Any problems? I am > planning on using Windows for Workgroups and wonder if there is any conflict > between the Thinkpad power management features and the 32 bit file and disk > access routines. It would sure be nice if there wasn't. Yes, I have both of those features turned "on" with no difficulties whatsoever. The ThinkPad, unlike most other notebook machines, is FULLY APM (Advanced Power Management) compliant--right down to the details of the specs. The problem with some notebook machines and the Windows 32-bit disk access feature is that many notebooks would shut down (to save power) while a write was in progress and end up corrupting the disk. Just so you can see how the TP prevents this--just *try* going into suspend mode while the TP is in the middle of spinning/accessing the hard disk. It won't do it. It will beep at you and refuse to go into suspend. You can try all you like but it won't. And that is true of any questionable disk situation--it will refuse to power down until all the disk chores are squared away. Then it will say goodnight. (This info, by the way, was told to me by Herb Chong--frequent contributor on private Echomail/relay conferences and also occasional freelance author in "Windows Sources" magazine.) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 16 02:38:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24472 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 02:38:31 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA15543; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 03:21:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 03:21:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA15536; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 03:21:01 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA22011 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 02:20:57 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Oops! Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 07:54:01 -0500 Message-Id: Lines: 14 X-Status: R Well, it seems as if I deleted all my mail for the past day or two in my attempt to successfully set up Yarn and UQWK. The good news is... if you're reading this, I'm getting through. Anyway, all mail for the 13th to the 15th will be lost unless anyone can send me a copy. I'd really appreciate it. Also, I did scan through my mail before losing it. I noticed that someone left due to feeling that "certain" people (I wonder who?) talk too much. Well, I hate to see people leaving with bad feelings. So, if you have any complaints, please voice them! And, if they're about me, still voice them! Hey, what's the Internet without _some_ flames? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 16 05:37:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21096 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 05:37:53 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA01243; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 06:15:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 06:15:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA01224; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 06:15:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199403161115.GAA01224@CS.UTK.EDU> Via: uk.ac.kingston; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 11:15:27 +0000 Received: from ceres.kingston.ac.uk by mercury.kingston.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <22847-0@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 11:15:21 +0000 Received: from kingston.ac.uk by ceres.kingston.ac.uk id <00260-0@ceres.kingston.ac.uk>; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 11:15:18 +0000 From: Sergio Terenas Subject: Re: Enabling 32 bit access in Windows on Thinkpad To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Randal Whittle's message of Tue, 15 Mar 1994 21:44:41 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: MMDF/Ream v4.16b Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 11:15:18 +0000 Original-Sender: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk X-Status: R How exactly do you enable 32 bits processing in Windows 3.1 ? Also, I've created a 9Mb (suggested by Windows) permanent swap file but found no apparent performance increase. Is anyone using swap files under Windows 3.1 ? What is the performance increase by enabling 32 bits ? Will WordPerfect 5.2 for Windows run much faster for example ? Cheers, Sergio From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 16 08:05:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00704 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 08:05:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA09995; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 08:41:05 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 08:41:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hk.super.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA09981; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 08:40:56 -0500 Received: by hk.super.net id AA16341 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 21:40:54 +0800 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 21:40:54 +0800 From: "Mr. Tony K Ng" Message-Id: <199403161340.AA16341@hk.super.net> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Status: R Hi there, I have an extra Thinkpad notebook bag. That's a brand new one from one of the IBM dealers. I am asking $60(this includes shipment), while a new one from IBM costs $79. Thanks. -Tony From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 16 08:47:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08541 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 08:47:24 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA12681; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 09:19:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 09:19:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA12674; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 09:19:46 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA19423 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 94 09:09:46 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id E181C2; Wed, 16 Mar 94 08:55:23 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: UFC/Gracie...SORRY From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.329318.700.0CE181C2@channel1.com> In-Reply-To: <199403150551.VAA10697@aludra.usc.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 23:24:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications X-Status: R Subject: UFC/Gracie...SORRY > ...are you planning to beat the hell out of my ThinkPad or something? >Please don't--it cost me a lot of money... ;) Hahaha > (I guess you accidently sent this to the mailing list...) I would like to apologize to everyone for my previous message regarding Martial Arts. I was involved in a HEATED discussion over in the Martial Arts Conference, in the heat of the moment I hit the wrong button! Since I'm here I just to to publicly thank RANDY WHITTLE for steering me in the right direction. Thanks to Randy, after only one week of waiting, I WILL be receiving my 750c within the next three days. Placed my order beginning of last week, and today received a call and was told it was being sent tomorrow.....Second Day Air! THANK YOU Randy! Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 16 09:50:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27548 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 09:50:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA16866; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 10:11:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 10:11:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA16859; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 10:11:17 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA07527; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 07:11:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id HAA02644; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 07:11:26 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403161511.HAA02644@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Enabling 32 bit access in Windows on Thinkpad To: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk (Sergio Terenas) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 07:11:26 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403161115.GAA01224@CS.UTK.EDU> from "Sergio Terenas" at Mar 16, 94 11:15:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: R > > How exactly do you enable 32 bits processing in Windows 3.1 ? Go to "Control Panel", "386 Enhanced", and then click the "Virtual Memory" button--same as you did when you created the Permanent Swap File you described. At the bottom of the dialog box, there is a check box for turning on "32-bit Disk Access". Click it. Do not confuse this with the newer "32-bit FILE Access" which is a separate feature! It can only be found in the new Windows for Workgroups version 3.11 (do not confuse this with the "regular" Windows updated to 3.11). As for 32-bit Disk Access--I've never noticed any speed increase, though I know some people who swear by it. These are probably the same people who carry a stopwatch into the bathroom with them to see how long they can pee... ;) > Also, I've created a 9Mb (suggested by Windows) permanent swap file but > found no apparent performance increase. Is anyone using swap files under > Windows 3.1 ? Probably too much. Windows' "suggestions" on swapfile size are always a joke. How much actual RAM memory do you have? That will determine the swapfile size, pretty much. I have 12 MB on my machine and under normal circumstances, I wouldn't dream of having a swapfile larger than 1 or 2 MB at most. *Do* have *some* swapfile though--it *does* help slightly in the speed department, even if you have all the memory in the world. I don't know why (and it doesn't make sense)--but it does. I've read many an educated and intelligent Windows' users' opinion on this subject, and the brighter ones recommend a swapfile (though small) under *all* circumstances. Apparently there is something about Windows' code that makes it check for a swap file when it goes to do something memory intensive (like opening up a program-- this is especially true of a DOS window) and if there's not one to find, it takes a bit longer. In my case though, I now have an 8 MB swap file in addition to my 12 MB RAM. The reason is 1--and only 1--software package. MathCAD 4.0 for Windows. It installed Win32s (32-bit extensions that make Win 3.1x run programs that are actually designed to run under Win NT or the yet-to-be- released Win 4.0). For some reason, it simply *demands* a big swapfile and while I can run it without such a large one, it then often won't let me open up any other software! Hence, I go along with the manual's recommendation of having an 8 MB swapfile (which IMO is *huge*, considering I have 12 MB RAM!) and I haven't had any problems since! Sometimes ya just gotta RTFM! > What is the performance increase by enabling 32 bits ? Will WordPerfect > 5.2 for Windows run much faster for example ? Not particularly. However, if you upgrade to Windows for Workgroups 3.11, you can then take advantage of a feature called "32-bit FILE access" which is, essentially, a Windows-based Disk Cache, but its much faster than other disk caches (i.e., SmartDrive) because it is 32-bit based code, rather than the 16-bit based SmartDrive (or other disk caches loaded at DOS). It *is* a noticable improvement... As for WordPerfect--if you can afford it, upgrade to 6.0. It has finally ironed out the bugs that have plagued WordPerfect's Windows versions for a couple of years now. I think you'll like it much better. ...or better yet, switch to Ami Pro!! (I'm a big fan...) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 16 12:28:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05683 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 12:28:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA00243; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 12:54:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 12:54:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from genesis.ait.psu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA00228; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 12:54:26 -0500 Received: from [128.118.73.18] (ppp18.cac.psu.edu) by genesis.ait.psu.edu with SMTP id AA11050 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 12:53:48 -0500 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 12:53:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Rick Andrew" Sender: wpa@psu.edu Message-Id: <46447.wpa@email.psu.edu> To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Enabling 32 bit access in Windows on Thinkpad X-Status: R Thanks for the help! Who said that this mailing list is not useful?!!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WPA@psu.edu Rick Andrew <*> HRI Finance WPA@psuvm.psu.edu Penn State Univ 814-863-0272 University Park, PA 16802 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 16 20:01:36 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07700 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 20:01:34 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA06884; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 20:28:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 20:28:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA06877; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 20:28:12 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA20805; Wed, 16 Mar 94 17:28:16 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13110; Wed, 16 Mar 94 17:27:25 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02236; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 17:26:09 +0800 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 17:26:09 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403170126.AA02236@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Enabling 32 bit access in Windows on Thinkpad In-Reply-To: <53537.wpa@email.psu.edu> References: <53537.wpa@email.psu.edu> X-Status: R I use both 32-bit disk and 32-bit file access on the TP (windows for workgroups 3.11) all the time. No problems except for a couple of disk utilties, like Norton SpeedDisk. When I want to run them, I shut off 32-bit file access and restart windows. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 16 20:38:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18186 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 20:38:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA10062; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 21:16:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 21:16:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA10051; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 21:16:24 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA11919 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 20:16:20 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Anyone wanna buy my 8MB IC-DRAM card? Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 19:40:33 -0500 Message-Id: <1SwXjWwf5pBK058yn@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Lines: 4 X-Status: R I'm thinking of upgrading to the next step in RAM -- the 16MB DRAM card. Is there anyone interested in an 8MB DRAM card? It's about four months old and I have the original box as well as receipt for it. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 17 00:07:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16339 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:07:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA23873; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:48:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:48:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc7.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA23866; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:48:34 -0500 From: Message-Id: <9403170548.AA16031@husc7.harvard.edu> Subject: linux... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:48:35 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: A has anyone found a patch to allow us to use linux on the 750 yt? (anybody written one yet?) <--nudge, nudge programmers :) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 17 00:22:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19376 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:22:32 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA24590; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 01:03:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 01:03:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA24584; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 01:03:51 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id BAA01405; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 01:04:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199403170604.BAA01405@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu), moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: linux... In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:48:35 EST." <9403170548.AA16031@husc7.harvard.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 01:04:02 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU X-Status: R > has anyone found a patch to allow us to use linux on the 750 yt? I had 0.99pl13 running and gave up because the network code was so broken. Later versions caused the thinkpad to get wedged...maybe because of some extra interrupts that the disk controller seems to generate. My patches are available from cs.utk.edu, directory pub/moore/linux and below. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 17 05:47:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06253 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 05:47:10 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA20208; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 06:12:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 06:12:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA20201; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 06:12:19 -0500 Received: from werple.apana.org.au by yarrina.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA09795 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 20:13:55 +1000 Received: (from guardian@localhost) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.7/8.6.6) id UAA12361; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 20:13:45 +1000 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 20:10:39 +1000 (EST) From: Nick Allan Subject: network card for thinkpad To: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: R Hi all I've just received a pcmcia ethernet card from my ibm dealer, but can't seem to get it to work. The ecctest program that came on the driver disk says there is a conflict at address 300. I'm using an ibm thinkpad 750 monocrome with 1170mb and 4mb ram. I think this pcmcia card is the standard network adapter ibm sells. Can anyone give me some help with drivers used and parameters. A look at someones config.sys would be of great help. Oh! I'm also using msdos 6.2 Thanks in advance for any help. REgards Nick From mike@filtronic.com Thu Mar 17 06:13:16 1994 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06998 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 06:13:06 -0600 Received: from filtroni.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ac09144; 17 Mar 94 10:45 GMT From: Mike O'Carroll X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Audio disk Date: Thu, 17 Mar 94 10:37:07 GMT Message-Id: <9403171037.aa05968@lopass.filtronic.com> X-Status: A > latest delivery date "maybe in the Autumn"). I run OS/2 mainly, though > the sound doesn't work yet (driver disk only had Windows stuff). Get the Audio Disk version 1.10. They include OS/2 drivers as well as SoundBlaster, MIDI, Adlib, Roland, and other emulations. The OS/2 DOS sessions virtualize the devices also. Unfortunately, there seems to be no way yet to get WIN-OS2 sounds to work... Well, strangely enough, sounds do kind of work under winos/2. Perhaps because I had windows installed first? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 17 09:00:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27335 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 09:00:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA07170; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 09:27:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 09:27:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA07163; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 09:27:30 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA27555; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 06:26:19 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 06:28:27 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Reply-To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Message-Id: <23307.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Problems under OS/2 X-Status: A Well, it's been a while since I mentioned these problems so I'll throw them out again and see if anyone else can verify them. My TP is a 750m/170 running OS/2 w/ 12MB RAM. Also, if you've got the OS/2 2.11 service pack, it might be a good idea to see if the SP fixes any of these problems (remember to back up your data first!). 1. Start up OS/2. Put computer into suspend mode. Resume. Hit ctrl-alt- del. OS/2 should flush cache and reboot. On my machine, it just reboots (requiring the hard drive be repaired the next time I boot OS/2). This one is a real pain when shutdown fails and I'm left with no way to reliably turning off my computer. 2. Start up OS/2. Put computer into suspend mode. While resuming (you can tell because the hard drive is initially accessed while resuming), if you do things like type or move the pointer, *sometimes* the machine will hang. Occasionally you can unhang it by putting the machine back into suspend and resuming (this time without interrupting). Usually, it stays hung requiring a power off. I haven't narrowed down exactly what causes the hang. Has anybody else run across these or other problems? -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 16 05:37:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21096 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 05:37:53 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA01243; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 06:15:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 06:15:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA01224; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 06:15:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199403161115.GAA01224@CS.UTK.EDU> Via: uk.ac.kingston; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 11:15:27 +0000 Received: from ceres.kingston.ac.uk by mercury.kingston.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <22847-0@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 11:15:21 +0000 Received: from kingston.ac.uk by ceres.kingston.ac.uk id <00260-0@ceres.kingston.ac.uk>; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 11:15:18 +0000 From: Sergio Terenas Subject: Re: Enabling 32 bit access in Windows on Thinkpad To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Randal Whittle's message of Tue, 15 Mar 1994 21:44:41 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: MMDF/Ream v4.16b Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 11:15:18 +0000 Original-Sender: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk X-Status: R How exactly do you enable 32 bits processing in Windows 3.1 ? Also, I've created a 9Mb (suggested by Windows) permanent swap file but found no apparent performance increase. Is anyone using swap files under Windows 3.1 ? What is the performance increase by enabling 32 bits ? Will WordPerfect 5.2 for Windows run much faster for example ? Cheers, Sergio From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 16 09:50:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27548 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 09:50:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA16866; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 10:11:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 10:11:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA16859; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 10:11:17 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA07527; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 07:11:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id HAA02644; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 07:11:26 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403161511.HAA02644@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Enabling 32 bit access in Windows on Thinkpad To: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk (Sergio Terenas) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 07:11:26 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403161115.GAA01224@CS.UTK.EDU> from "Sergio Terenas" at Mar 16, 94 11:15:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: R > > How exactly do you enable 32 bits processing in Windows 3.1 ? Go to "Control Panel", "386 Enhanced", and then click the "Virtual Memory" button--same as you did when you created the Permanent Swap File you described. At the bottom of the dialog box, there is a check box for turning on "32-bit Disk Access". Click it. Do not confuse this with the newer "32-bit FILE Access" which is a separate feature! It can only be found in the new Windows for Workgroups version 3.11 (do not confuse this with the "regular" Windows updated to 3.11). As for 32-bit Disk Access--I've never noticed any speed increase, though I know some people who swear by it. These are probably the same people who carry a stopwatch into the bathroom with them to see how long they can pee... ;) > Also, I've created a 9Mb (suggested by Windows) permanent swap file but > found no apparent performance increase. Is anyone using swap files under > Windows 3.1 ? Probably too much. Windows' "suggestions" on swapfile size are always a joke. How much actual RAM memory do you have? That will determine the swapfile size, pretty much. I have 12 MB on my machine and under normal circumstances, I wouldn't dream of having a swapfile larger than 1 or 2 MB at most. *Do* have *some* swapfile though--it *does* help slightly in the speed department, even if you have all the memory in the world. I don't know why (and it doesn't make sense)--but it does. I've read many an educated and intelligent Windows' users' opinion on this subject, and the brighter ones recommend a swapfile (though small) under *all* circumstances. Apparently there is something about Windows' code that makes it check for a swap file when it goes to do something memory intensive (like opening up a program-- this is especially true of a DOS window) and if there's not one to find, it takes a bit longer. In my case though, I now have an 8 MB swap file in addition to my 12 MB RAM. The reason is 1--and only 1--software package. MathCAD 4.0 for Windows. It installed Win32s (32-bit extensions that make Win 3.1x run programs that are actually designed to run under Win NT or the yet-to-be- released Win 4.0). For some reason, it simply *demands* a big swapfile and while I can run it without such a large one, it then often won't let me open up any other software! Hence, I go along with the manual's recommendation of having an 8 MB swapfile (which IMO is *huge*, considering I have 12 MB RAM!) and I haven't had any problems since! Sometimes ya just gotta RTFM! > What is the performance increase by enabling 32 bits ? Will WordPerfect > 5.2 for Windows run much faster for example ? Not particularly. However, if you upgrade to Windows for Workgroups 3.11, you can then take advantage of a feature called "32-bit FILE access" which is, essentially, a Windows-based Disk Cache, but its much faster than other disk caches (i.e., SmartDrive) because it is 32-bit based code, rather than the 16-bit based SmartDrive (or other disk caches loaded at DOS). It *is* a noticable improvement... As for WordPerfect--if you can afford it, upgrade to 6.0. It has finally ironed out the bugs that have plagued WordPerfect's Windows versions for a couple of years now. I think you'll like it much better. ...or better yet, switch to Ami Pro!! (I'm a big fan...) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 16 12:28:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05683 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 12:28:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA00243; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 12:54:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 12:54:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from genesis.ait.psu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA00228; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 12:54:26 -0500 Received: from [128.118.73.18] (ppp18.cac.psu.edu) by genesis.ait.psu.edu with SMTP id AA11050 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 12:53:48 -0500 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 12:53:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Rick Andrew" Sender: wpa@psu.edu Message-Id: <46447.wpa@email.psu.edu> To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Enabling 32 bit access in Windows on Thinkpad X-Status: R Thanks for the help! Who said that this mailing list is not useful?!!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WPA@psu.edu Rick Andrew <*> HRI Finance WPA@psuvm.psu.edu Penn State Univ 814-863-0272 University Park, PA 16802 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 16 20:01:36 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07700 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 20:01:34 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA06884; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 20:28:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 20:28:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA06877; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 20:28:12 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA20805; Wed, 16 Mar 94 17:28:16 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13110; Wed, 16 Mar 94 17:27:25 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02236; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 17:26:09 +0800 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 17:26:09 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403170126.AA02236@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Enabling 32 bit access in Windows on Thinkpad In-Reply-To: <53537.wpa@email.psu.edu> References: <53537.wpa@email.psu.edu> X-Status: R I use both 32-bit disk and 32-bit file access on the TP (windows for workgroups 3.11) all the time. No problems except for a couple of disk utilties, like Norton SpeedDisk. When I want to run them, I shut off 32-bit file access and restart windows. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 17 15:37:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08148 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 15:37:49 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA14879; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 16:14:25 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 16:14:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA14872; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 16:14:21 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA13307 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 13:14:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id NAA14419 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 13:13:08 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403172113.NAA14419@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: 10BaseT Network Cabling? To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 13:13:07 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: A Hi folks! I need some input... Since Chuck McManis mentioned the great deal on the 3Com PCMCIA 10BaseT network card, I decided to order it and a regular ISA Ethernet adapter to put in my desktop to get a little network action going on with Windows for Workgroups. I have not yet received the cards, so I'm in no terrible rush, but I need to get some 10BaseT twisted-pair network cabling. Chuck mentioned that I should try to get 8 Conductor, 4 Twisted Pairs cabling and suggested a place called Digikey to get it at. I called Digikey and apparently, they aren't used to dealing with the little guy...the shortest length they had was 500 feet (!) at a cost of $350. Look--I need something reasonable, like 6 feet or maybe 25 or even 50 feet...but 500 or 1000? Not on your life! Suggestions on where I can get this stuff in shorter lengths? ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 17 17:30:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28249 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:30:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA24415; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:13:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:13:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dogwood.cs.scarolina.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA24406; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:13:37 -0500 Received: by usceast.cs.scarolina.edu (cs.grandpoobah.030594) From: Robert Castles Message-Id: <9403172312.AA14516@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu> Subject: Re: Problems under OS/2 To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Date: Thu, 17 Mar 94 18:12:34 EST Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <23307.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu>; from "John Kim" at Mar 17, 94 6:28 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] X-Status: A > Has anybody else run across these or other problems? > -- > John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like > jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole > This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" > Almost all problems have been resolved with the suspend mode and OS/2. It is in fact the 750c's problem with BIOS. You can download the BIOS update from the IBM NSC BBS at 19195170001. The 750C BIOS is programmable, so we thinkpad owners can get cool updates like this one! The fixes are: No random hang ups, floppy drive access after resume is fixed. You might want to grab all of the following updates as they are all very useful: 2-26-94 2:32a 491436 0 750cebio.exe BIOS 12-07-93 5:27p 952555 0 af750110.exe Audio 8-11-42 8:35a 355803 0 sy750102.exe Systems 1-20-94 10:26p 668646 0 ut75012x.exe Utilities 12-07-93 5:29p 984568 0 vf750112.exe Video Robert Castles castles@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 17 17:56:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08681 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:56:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA26292; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:39:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:39:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA26277; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:39:10 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA01570 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:39:06 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Audio under WIN-OS2 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 12:35:13 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <<9403171037.aa05968@lopass.filtronic.com> Lines: 12 X-Status: R >Well, strangely enough, sounds do kind of work under winos/2. Perhaps >because I had windows installed first? If you're using the old audio drivers which don't have OS/2 sound drivers, then yup, that would be the case. However, once you install the new OS/2 sound drivers and MMPM/2, you will lose the ability to hear anything from WIN-OS2 at all (even though the docs claim otherwise). I've tried to install the Windows audio sounds manually and even tried to edit the INI files but to no avail...WIN-OS2 keeps thinking it has no drivers available (or that one of the files is missing)... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 17 18:00:01 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09799 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:59:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA26299; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:39:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:39:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA26289; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:39:13 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA01603 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:39:09 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: Problems under OS/2 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 12:44:07 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <23307.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> Lines: 32 X-Status: R >Well, it's been a while since I mentioned these problems so I'll throw them >out again and see if anyone else can verify them. My TP is a 750m/170 >running OS/2 w/ 12MB RAM. Also, if you've got the OS/2 2.11 service pack, >it might be a good idea to see if the SP fixes any of these problems >(remember to back up your data first!). Hmm...OS/2 2.11 has so far failed to allow me to put it into suspend at all! I've tried a variety of order in the Config.SYS but to no avail. What's the order it should all be in? I think I may try to put the OS/2 2.1 APM in as well. I'm using the COM.SYS driver that came with the Utilities Disk 1.2 which worked fine before. But I've also tried the COM.SYS from OS/2 2.11 -- no go (or stop, should I say). >(requiring the hard drive be repaired the next time I boot OS/2). This one >is a real pain when shutdown fails and I'm left with no way to reliably >turning off my computer. Have you tried one of those third party command line programs? Or better yet, use the setboot command. >2. Start up OS/2. Put computer into suspend mode. While resuming (you can >tell because the hard drive is initially accessed while resuming), if you do >things like type or move the pointer, *sometimes* the machine will hang. >Occasionally you can unhang it by putting the machine back into suspend and >resuming (this time without interrupting). Usually, it stays hung requiring >a power off. I haven't narrowed down exactly what causes the hang. I've noticed this too. It only occured once in a while, but it was enough to keep me on the edge of my pants each time I pulled out of suspend (God forbid I hibernate!). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 18 01:57:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19864 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 18 Mar 1994 01:57:23 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA26543; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 02:34:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 02:34:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA26532; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 02:34:24 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA16692 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU); Fri, 18 Mar 1994 01:34:17 -0600 To: castles@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: Problems under OS/2 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 01:05:03 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9403172312.AA14516@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu> Lines: 17 X-Status: O >Almost all problems have been resolved with the suspend mode and OS/2. It is >in fact the 750c's problem with BIOS. You can download the BIOS update from Are you sure the fixes you listed below are for the 750C? > 2-26-94 2:32a 491436 0 750cebio.exe BIOS This seems as if it's for the 750Ce and that's also what it listed on the BBS. > 12-07-93 5:27p 952555 0 af750110.exe Audio > 8-11-42 8:35a 355803 0 sy750102.exe Systems > 1-20-94 10:26p 668646 0 ut75012x.exe Utilities > 12-07-93 5:29p 984568 0 vf750112.exe Video There is a new sy750104.exe Systems Disk, although I don't know what it does. All the others do appear to be the most recent versions. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 18 01:57:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19939 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 18 Mar 1994 01:57:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA26536; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 02:34:25 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 02:34:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA26522; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 02:34:22 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA16698 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Fri, 18 Mar 1994 01:34:18 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: OS/2 2.11 and Suspend Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 01:20:36 -0500 Message-Id: Lines: 14 X-Status: O Today, I spent some time with OS/2 and suspend mode. I upgrade to OS/2 2.11 about a week ago and all has been going well except that I couldn't suspend. Well, that's a problem since this is a notebook and I have a tendency to leave it in suspend for hours at a time to conserve energy yet spare the trouble of doing the boot up sequence. I tried every possible Config.SYS I could think of with no luck. Finally, I tried to selectively install the APM drivers again, but this time I used the OS/2 2.1 disks instead. It works so far and things seem okay again! So the moral is: if you use OS/2 and decide to upgrade to 2.11, use the APM drivers from OS/2 2.1. From castles@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu Fri Mar 18 02:02:08 1994 Received: from dogwood.cs.scarolina.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21676 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 18 Mar 1994 02:02:06 -0600 Received: by usceast.cs.scarolina.edu (cs.grandpoobah.030594) From: Robert Castles Message-Id: <9403180802.AA17965@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu> Subject: Re: Problems under OS/2 To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 94 3:02:15 EST In-Reply-To: ; from "Sean Chou" at Mar 18, 94 1:05 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] X-Status: A > > >Almost all problems have been resolved with the suspend mode and OS/2. It is > >in fact the 750c's problem with BIOS. You can download the BIOS update from > > Are you sure the fixes you listed below are for the 750C? > > > 2-26-94 2:32a 491436 0 750cebio.exe BIOS > > This seems as if it's for the 750Ce and that's also what it listed > on the BBS. > I'm pretty sure I've installed from this file on my 750C. All the resume bugs have been fixed. I have no idea what a systems disk is either! I'll get it and find out. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 18 13:43:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01600 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 18 Mar 1994 13:43:34 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA22727; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:18:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:18:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA22720; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:18:45 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA17916; Fri, 18 Mar 94 11:18:52 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01316; Fri, 18 Mar 94 11:17:39 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA00629; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 11:16:08 +0800 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 11:16:08 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403181916.AA00629@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: bad pixels on 750 TFT X-Status: A Recently there was some discussion on how many pixels constituted a bad screen that IBM would replace. I asked my dealer. He said the policy is either 25 bad pixels or two adjacent bum pixels in the middle of the screen. He hears that IBM's reject rate is about 80%. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 18 14:24:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19875 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:24:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA26113; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:58:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:58:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA26101; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:58:03 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id OAA04005; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:58:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199403181958.OAA04005@wilma.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: netbsd + pcmcia ether on the tp750 Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU From: Keith Moore Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:58:12 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU X-Status: A FWIW, I finally got my pcmcia ethernet card to work under netbsd on my thinkpad 750. It turns out that my driver works if I assign IRQ 5 to the card, but not if I assign IRQ 10. There are no conflicts (that I know of) with either IRQ. I wonder if IBM's pcmcia controller chip doesn't implement that one? Keith From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 18 18:32:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26083 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 18 Mar 1994 18:32:09 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA25145; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:53:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:53:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA25137; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:53:30 -0500 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 2915; Fri, 18 Mar 94 14:53:40 EST Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 5129; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:53:38 EST Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Fri, 18 Mar 94 14:53:37 EST Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA19510; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:53:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:53:34 -0500 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9403181953.AA19510@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Bob Page's message of Fri, 18 Mar 1994 11:16:08 +0800 <9403181916.AA00629@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> Subject: bad pixels on 750 TFT X-Status: R By the way, I have written a simple DOS script which changes the screen into solid colors and allows you to look for bad pixels. I found that I have 3 bad pixels on my display. If anybody is interested, I will post the file... --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 15:22:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22300 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 15:22:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA11673; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 15:58:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 15:58:30 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA11666; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 15:58:28 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA13946; Sat, 19 Mar 94 15:58:28 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 15:58:28 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403192058.AA13946@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: bad pixels on the 750C... X-Status: R My screen was originally perfect but rapidly developed two stuck-to-red pixels and then stablized (no more seen since). I think that the number for replacement is much higher than 3. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 15:47:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00656 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 15:47:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA13313; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 16:26:43 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 16:26:42 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA13306; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 16:26:38 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA14117; Sat, 19 Mar 94 16:26:45 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 16:26:45 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403192126.AA14117@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Am I a shmuck? X-Status: R I am surprised that the IBM card is only $500 (i.e. only a little more thanm the non-IBM card). It is up to you of course, but under those circumstances I would go for the IBM card, since it makes dealing with any subsequent problems much easier. From dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU Sat Mar 19 15:49:23 1994 Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01049 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 15:49:21 -0600 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA14311; Sat, 19 Mar 94 16:49:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 16:49:27 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403192149.AA14311@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: CPU Upgrade? X-Status: R Now that the vlume on this mailinfg list is getting bigger, shouldn't it be conbverted to a newsgroup? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 15:55:01 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02655 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 15:54:57 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA13584; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 16:30:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 16:30:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hsdndev.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA13577; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 16:30:41 -0500 From: Received: from warren.med.harvard.edu by jenner.med.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28998; Sat, 19 Mar 94 16:28:02 -0500 Received: from ccMail by warren.med.harvard.edu id AA764123191 Sat, 19 Mar 94 16:26:31 EST Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 16:26:31 EST Message-Id: <9402197641.AA764123191@warren.med.harvard.edu> To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Problems under OS/2 X-Status: A John, I'm using my TP750C/170 in OS2forWindows and its real stable. Very rare hangs. I use stand-by multiple times a day and hibernate usually twice a day. I know folks dont say much good about hibernate. I love it. I can freeze my system at a frustrating part of a programming or document problem and start fresh with the cursor in the right place and the adjunct tools alive and nearby. I rarely explicitely enter suspend. (I wish I could get a mode like standby where the disk spins down but the display stays on.) Anyway, I'm finding the TP750 and OS/2 to be real stable now. The only embarassments are the lack of audio support in win/os2 and the video driver problem with leaving win/os2 improperly. I've got work arounds for both, using other programs than I'd rather use. I'm hopeful that updated drivers will appear RSN and we'll all be in notebook heavan. Joe From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 16:44:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16870 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 16:44:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA16676; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 17:23:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 17:23:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA16669; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 17:23:35 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA14518; Sat, 19 Mar 94 17:23:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 17:23:42 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403192223.AA14518@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: joe@quality.tamu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Brightness control on TP750 Mono X-Status: R It seems that the brightness control doesn't do much if you are in the default (PS2 BR E) mode with a battery, but in normal mode (PS2 BR N) it works fine. What would be interesting to know is what the relative battery life is for: PS2 BR E PS2 BR N (brightness down, equals approx PS2 BR E brightness) PS2 BR N (brightness up) I usually work in the third mode, and the extra battery drain seems small (perhaps 10%) if the first two are about the same, then the PS2 BR E setting seems really silly! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 21:43:14 1994 Received: from ux1.cso.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20719 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 21:43:04 -0600 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by ux1.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17122 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 21:41:56 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA03187; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:13:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:13:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA03180; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:13:35 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA08353 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 94 22:06:02 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id E18424; Sat, 19 Mar 94 21:34:03 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: bad pixels on 750 TFT From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.333575.700.0CE18424@channel1.com> In-Reply-To: <9403181953.AA19510@jimi.watson.ibm.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 21:05:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications X-Status: R Subject: bad pixels on 750 TFT >By the way, I have written a simple DOS script which changes the >screen into solid colors and allows you to look for bad pixels. I >found that I have 3 bad pixels on my display. >If anybody is interested, I will post the file... YES please post it!! Thanks Andy, Joseph From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 21:43:14 1994 Received: from ux1.cso.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20719 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 21:43:04 -0600 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by ux1.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17122 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 21:41:56 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA03187; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:13:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:13:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA03180; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:13:35 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA08353 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 94 22:06:02 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id E18424; Sat, 19 Mar 94 21:34:03 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: bad pixels on 750 TFT From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.333575.700.0CE18424@channel1.com> In-Reply-To: <9403181953.AA19510@jimi.watson.ibm.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 21:05:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications X-Status: R Subject: bad pixels on 750 TFT >By the way, I have written a simple DOS script which changes the >screen into solid colors and allows you to look for bad pixels. I >found that I have 3 bad pixels on my display. >If anybody is interested, I will post the file... YES please post it!! Thanks Andy, Joseph From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 21:44:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21308 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 21:44:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA03584; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:20:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:20:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA03574; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:20:30 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA01746; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 19:20:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id TAA08491; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 19:20:38 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403200320.TAA08491@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Squashed display To: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 19:20:38 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9403192340.AA16551@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Mar 19, 94 06:40:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: R > > the reason for the letterbox display is that on a TFT screen, unlike a CRT, > the pixel positions are fixed, so when you are in text mode, which is > 640 x 400 instead of 640 x 480, there is a mismatch of pixel counts This is also true of all LCD displays (Such as the 750 Monochrome and the 750Cs--Dual-Scan passive-matrix), not just TFT's, buy the way... ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 21:44:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21479 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 21:44:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA03659; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:22:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:22:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA03652; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:22:13 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA01776; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 19:22:24 -0800 Received: from localhost (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id TAA08674; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 19:22:22 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403200322.TAA08674@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: CPU Upgrade? To: moore@CS.UTK.EDU (Keith Moore) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 19:22:21 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403192359.SAA02027@wilma.cs.utk.edu> from "Keith Moore" at Mar 19, 94 06:59:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: O > > > Now that the vlume on this mailinfg list is getting bigger, shouldn't it > > be conbverted to a newsgroup? > > There's still only about 108 members. It's much cheaper (in terms of Really? I haven't kept close count, but it seems like I've only seen about 15 or 20 names (if that many) in the many messages... Lots of lurkers I guess. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 21:47:29 1994 Received: from ux1.cso.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22646 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 21:47:26 -0600 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by ux1.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01978 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 19:47:33 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA25984; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 20:06:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 20:06:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA25938; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 20:06:36 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA16792; Sat, 19 Mar 94 20:06:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 20:06:43 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403200106.AA16792@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: CPU Upgrade? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu X-Status: R but the volume is getting high enough that it is getting annoying (note that we already had two cancellation requests) From moore@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 19 21:48:08 1994 Received: from ux1.cso.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22945 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 21:48:04 -0600 Received: from WILMA.CS.UTK.EDU by ux1.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17398 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 18:04:26 -0600 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id SAA02027; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 18:59:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199403192359.SAA02027@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: dewar@schonberg.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CPU Upgrade? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 1994 16:49:27 EST." <9403192149.AA14311@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 18:59:20 -0500 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu X-Status: R > Now that the vlume on this mailinfg list is getting bigger, shouldn't it > be conbverted to a newsgroup? There's still only about 108 members. It's much cheaper (in terms of bandwidth) to mail 108 separate messages than it is to propagate an article to all of the usenet sites that take (e.g.) comp.*. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 21:49:06 1994 Received: from ux1.cso.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23314 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 21:49:03 -0600 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by ux1.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17981 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 18:08:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA21289; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 18:40:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 18:40:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA21277; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 18:40:34 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA16551; Sat, 19 Mar 94 18:40:33 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 18:40:33 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403192340.AA16551@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: SCHUMANN@macc.wisc.edu, bruce@objy.com Subject: Re: Squashed display Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Status: R the reason for the letterbox display is that on a TFT screen, unlike a CRT, the pixel positions are fixed, so when you are in text mode, which is 640 x 400 instead of 640 x 480, there is a mismatch of pixel counts From dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU Sat Mar 19 22:03:25 1994 Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27117 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:03:22 -0600 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17799; Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:03:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:03:29 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403200403.AA17799@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: TPII and Keys X-Status: R I find the fading paint on the keys quite annoying, this is a small quality problem that IBM should fix in future models From dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU Sat Mar 19 22:05:57 1994 Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27754 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:05:54 -0600 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17817; Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:05:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:05:58 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403200405.AA17817@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: [FN] keys. X-Status: R any machine that does not have a PS2 mouse connector is a piece of junk. Gateway computers qualify for that designation in other respects! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 22:09:05 1994 Received: from ux1.cso.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28318 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:09:02 -0600 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by ux1.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12962 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 21:10:04 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA01409; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 21:45:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 21:44:59 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA01402; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 21:44:57 -0500 From: Received: from cedrick (CEDRICK.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA10430; Sat, 19 Mar 94 20:40:47 CST Received: by cedrick (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA18396; Sat, 19 Mar 94 20:44:30 CST Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 20:44:30 CST Message-Id: <9403200244.AA18396@cedrick> To: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Bob Page's message of Fri, 18 Mar 1994 11:16:08 +0800 <9403181916.AA00629@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> Subject: bad pixels on 750 TFT X-Status: R Anyone know how to tell if a bad spot is a single pixel or two adjacent pixels? My screen has one bad spot which actually looks like it might be more than one pixel, AND, it is near the center of the screen. Or should I just be quite and happy that I only have one bad spot on the entire screen (I had another one that was bad for a while, and then started working again). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 22:09:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28434 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:09:30 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA05114; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:47:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:47:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA05107; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:47:52 -0500 From: Received: from cedrick (CEDRICK.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA10941; Sat, 19 Mar 94 21:43:43 CST Received: by cedrick (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA18647; Sat, 19 Mar 94 21:47:26 CST Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 21:47:26 CST Message-Id: <9403200347.AA18647@cedrick> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: [moore@CS.UTK.EDU: Re: CPU Upgrade? ] X-Status: O One of the cancellations was a friend whom I recommended join the list. Unfortunately, he joined right in the middle of a couple of long and verbose threads that were not related to the thinkpad at all. The volume isn't that bad when it is kept only to thinkpad issues. Wes Return-Path: X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 20:40:44 EST From: Keith Moore To: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: CPU Upgrade? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 1994 20:06:43 EST." <9403200106.AA16792@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 20:40:49 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > but the volume is getting high enough that it is getting annoying > (note that we already had two cancellation requests) You know, I understand that it's easier for most people to ignore news than to ignore mail. But somehow it's hard to justify taking up a lot more bandwidth in the transmission of this list, just to make it easier for people to ignore it! You're welcome, of course, to start discussion on usenet for creation of comp.sys.laptops.tp750 or some such. Maybe it will turn out that there are enough people interested. I just don't happen to think that it's worth it. Keith From dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU Sat Mar 19 22:18:35 1994 Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00566 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:18:31 -0600 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17928; Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:18:37 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:18:37 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403200418.AA17928@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: TP-II keyboard for PC's X-Status: R now if I could just get a TP-II keyboard for my SGI Indy ... From dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU Sat Mar 19 22:22:32 1994 Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01313 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:22:29 -0600 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17951; Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:22:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:22:35 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403200422.AA17951@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: TP750CE X-Status: R the SLC 25/50 is significantly slower than the 33 DX (I noticed a real speed up going from a 720C to a 750C) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 22:25:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01833 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:25:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA06001; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:03:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:03:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA05994; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:03:47 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17804; Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:03:53 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:03:53 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403200403.AA17804@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: [FN] keys. X-Status: R can someone give the part number for the full blown trackpoint keyboard? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 22:25:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01860 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:25:19 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA06021; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:04:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:04:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA06014; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:04:15 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17807; Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:04:17 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:04:17 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403200404.AA17807@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: [FN] keys. X-Status: R by the way, Toshiba is marketing trackpoint II keyboards (they use a green button :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 22:29:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02799 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:29:22 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA06309; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:07:43 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:07:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA06302; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:07:41 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17812; Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:05:17 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:05:17 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403200405.AA17812@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: castles@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP-II keyboard for PC's X-Status: R I am using the version of the TP-II keyboard that has a separate numeric pad. It works find on my ISA/EISA machine. It comes with a special cable that has both keyboard and mouse connectors at the other end. Anyone want to buy an old useless Microsoft mouse? :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 19 22:29:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02806 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:29:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA06362; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:09:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:09:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA06354; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:09:08 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17832; Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:08:03 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:08:03 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403200408.AA17832@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Memory MANIAC! X-Status: R sorry from your earlier post, I thought you meant $500 for 8 megs, which would not be too bad, but $500 for 4 megs will not do! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 02:01:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10336 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 02:01:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA17514; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 02:32:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 02:32:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA17507; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 02:32:08 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA08532; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:31:00 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:33:07 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Reply-To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Message-Id: <84787.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: AT&T KIT modem X-Status: R I asked AT&T for the price on a replacement OLI (to replace the one I bent). $45. I think I'll stick with the bent one since it seems to be working fine... -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 02:03:41 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11249 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 02:03:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA17505; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 02:32:05 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 02:32:04 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA17498; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 02:32:02 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA08529; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:30:54 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:33:04 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Reply-To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Message-Id: <84784.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Trackpoint II X-Status: A In message Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:04:17 -0500, Robert Dewar writes: > by the way, Toshiba is marketing trackpoint II keyboards (they use a green > button :-) Since the "eraser" that fits on the TPII is removable, does it really matter what color it is? Hey, does anyone know how much replacement "erasers" cost? Maybe Toshiba has them for cheaper than IBM. :) -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 08:35:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14825 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 08:35:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA16013; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 09:14:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 09:14:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from csd36.cs.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA15998; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 09:14:41 -0500 Received: by csd36.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA17066; Sun, 20 Mar 94 09:14:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 94 09:14:49 -0500 From: kedem@csd36.cs.nyu.edu (Zvi Meir Kedem) Message-Id: <9403201414.AA17066@csd36.cs.nyu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Robert Dewar's message of Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:04:17 -0500 <9403200404.AA17807@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> Subject: [FN] keys. Reply-To: kedem@cs.nyu.edu X-Status: R X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:04:18 EST Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 23:04:17 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) by the way, Toshiba is marketing trackpoint II keyboards (they use a green button :-) Are the trackpoints on IBM and Toshiba really the same? I tried several different Toshiba and IBM notebooks. Whereas IBM's trackpoint feels solid, Toshiba's feels wobbly. It seems that Toshiba's needs to move slightly before reacting. I thought maybe I imagined this, so I took off the green rubber cover and then it was completely clear (on the two Toshiba notbooks I checked) that the trackpoint was in fact moving a little before reacting--just like a very limited movement joystick. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 09:19:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17476 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 09:19:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA18249; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 09:53:25 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 09:53:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA18242; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 09:53:23 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA18786; Sun, 20 Mar 94 09:53:30 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 94 09:53:30 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403201453.AA18786@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: kedem@cs.nyu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: [FN] keys. X-Status: R interesting, I have not tried it out! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 10:32:43 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24999 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 10:32:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA22875; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:13:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:13:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA22868; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:13:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (postman@localhost) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA04020 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:14:06 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:14:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:12:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.14.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix3.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix3.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:12:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:12:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew A. Houghton" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: [FN] keys. In-Reply-To: <9403201453.AA18786@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> References: <9403201453.AA18786@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> X-Status: R The electronics / methods of translating motion/pressure on the IBM is different than that of the Toshiba. If folks are really interested, I could probably go find my reference and bandy about some technical words. In any case, the trackpoint was jointly developed by Toshiba and IBM. IBM put it to use first, while Toshiba decided to use a different method of translation for their Portege notebook. I will (in my ever-present need to be prescient) guess that we will be seeing more models from Toshiba (at least) with the trackpoint, and I've heard rumbles of other vendors licensing the technology. - Andrew From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 11:21:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02024 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:21:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA25439; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:56:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:56:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA25432; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:56:46 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA04259 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 94 11:47:09 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id E18487; Sun, 20 Mar 94 11:30:42 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: CPU Upgrade? From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.334070.700.0CE18487@channel1.com> In-Reply-To: <199403200140.UAA02198@wilma.cs.utk.edu> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 94 10:25:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications X-Status: R Subject: Re: CPU Upgrade? >> but the volume is getting high enough that it is getting annoying >> (note that we already had two cancellation requests) >You know, I understand that it's easier for most people to ignore >news than to ignore mail. But somehow it's hard to justify taking up >a lot more bandwidth in the transmission of this list, just to make >it easier for people to ignore it! >You're welcome, of course, to start discussion on usenet for creation >of comp.sys.laptops.tp750 or some such. Maybe it will turn out that >there are enough people interested. I just don't happen to think >that it's worth it. I agree with you Keith!! Joseph From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 12:35:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15631 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 12:34:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA28930; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 13:14:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 13:14:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from epas.utoronto.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA28923; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 13:14:20 -0500 Received: by epas.utoronto.ca (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA15655; Sun, 20 Mar 94 13:14:35 -0500 From: jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca (James Cummings) Message-Id: <9403201814.AA15655@epas.utoronto.ca> Subject: Re: CPU Upgrade? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Think-Pad 750 Mailing list) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 13:14:34 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <84801.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Mar 19, 94 11:33:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: A It has been written by the hand of John Kim that: > >In message Sat, 19 Mar 94 20:06:43 -0500, > Robert Dewar writes: > >> but the volume is getting high enough that it is getting annoying (note >> that we already had two cancellation requests) > >One idea we might try is to bundle each day's messages into packets and send >just one packet. I've seen a couple other mailing lists that do this so >there must be some standardized software around. And many mailers are >capable of extracting those packets into normal mail messages (usually via >the '@' key). The problem with high activity mailing lists is usually >picking your 'real' mail out of the mailing list traffic. >-- >John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like >jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole >This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" > > This had never occurred to me as a possible problem. If you have ELM available as a mail-reader you can use it to automaticaly filter message to folders. Anything coming from the list address is filtered to a file called 'tp750' (in my case). That way I'm able to keep it separate from personal mail. A side effect is that you don't have to stay 'up to date' on what is happening onthe mailing list. There is one (Chaucer-L) which has just been collecting for the last 3 months. I will sit down and skim through the HUNDREDS of messages this summer. ;-) If anyone using ELM wants advice on how to do this, I'm willing to answer questions from my limited knowledge. (Though I'd suggest checking the man pages on filter and elm). -James jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca | 1994: Official Year of The Toronto Free-Net. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 13:03:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22670 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 13:03:19 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA29933; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 13:40:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 13:40:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA29924; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 13:40:47 -0500 Received: from FirstPerson.COM (rampart.EBay.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA25639; Sun, 20 Mar 94 10:40:58 PST Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by FirstPerson.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26274; Sun, 20 Mar 94 10:40:41 PST Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07563; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 10:39:54 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02209; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 10:41:47 +0800 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 10:41:47 +0800 From: Chuck.McManis@firstperson.com (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9403201841.AA02209@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: kedem@cs.nyu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: [FN] keys. X-Status: R At the consumer electronics show the Toshiba rep said they had licensed IBM's patent on the Trackpoint II for their protege series. If that were true I'd expect them to be identical, of course they may have tried to "improve" it. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 14:04:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10333 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:04:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA03225; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:42:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:42:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA03217; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:42:56 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA27396; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:15:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA04528; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:15:40 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403201915.LAA04528@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: [FN] keys. To: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Andrew A. Houghton) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:15:38 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Andrew A. Houghton" at Mar 20, 94 11:12:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: R > In any case, the trackpoint was jointly developed by Toshiba and IBM. I didn't know that! > ...and I've heard > rumbles of other vendors licensing the technology. I don't know if its licensed, or a direct rip-off, but Gateway 2000 uses a kind of "trackpoint" (though it is not in the middle of the keyboard-- more toward the right edge of the machine) on its "Handbook" line of machines. Only other machine I've seen besides IBM's and Toshibas--and for that matter, it was used *before* Toshiba put out the Protege series. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 14:09:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11761 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:09:43 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA03528; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:48:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:48:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA03521; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:48:29 -0500 From: Received: from buddy.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id LAA10685; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:48:36 -0800 Received: by buddy.ucsc.edu (8.6.8/4.7) id LAA13925; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:48:35 -0800 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:48:35 -0800 Message-Id: <199403201948.LAA13925@buddy.ucsc.edu> To: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: [FN] keys. X-Status: R Thus far, I have seen the "trackpoint" device on only one Toshiba machine -- the subnotebook "Portege." Are they now marketing a trackpoint keyboard for desktop use? IBM is, but I had to send mine back when I could not get it to work with the serial port on my Gateway, even after I bought a PS/2-serial adapter from Logitech. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 14:20:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14450 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:20:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA04236; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:59:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:59:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA04228; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:59:17 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA21696; Sun, 20 Mar 94 14:59:23 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 94 14:59:23 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403201959.AA21696@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: [FN] keys. Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Status: R actually I don't think it is fair to say that the TPII was developed jointly. We heard a presentation on the development from the guy at IBM who did all the research and development. Maybe Toshiba was involved later on, or maybe they are just licensing the technology. Certainly they were not involved in the original development. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 14:20:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14458 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:20:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA04394; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:01:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:01:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from csd36.cs.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA04384; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:01:23 -0500 Received: by csd36.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA17417; Sun, 20 Mar 94 15:01:28 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 94 15:01:28 -0500 From: kedem@csd36.cs.nyu.edu (Zvi Meir Kedem) Message-Id: <9403202001.AA17417@csd36.cs.nyu.edu> To: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: [FN] keys. Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Status: R There is a considerable difference between "trackpoint" (trademark ?) and a joystick. I think that the trackpoint is not supposed to move at all, it is a strain gauge. --Zvi From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 14:33:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17808 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:33:08 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA05060; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:12:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:12:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA05053; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:12:17 -0500 From: Received: from buddy.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id MAA12005; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 12:12:27 -0800 Received: by buddy.ucsc.edu (8.6.8/4.7) id MAA14161; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 12:12:25 -0800 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 12:12:25 -0800 Message-Id: <199403202012.MAA14161@buddy.ucsc.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: keyboard X-Status: R Someone wanted to know the part number for the Trackpoint keyboard. It is 73G8306. The numeric keypad is separate. (Part # 61G902. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 14:48:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22042 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:48:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA05882; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:25:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:25:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA05874; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:25:47 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA21740; Sun, 20 Mar 94 15:25:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 94 15:25:49 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403202025.AA21740@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: keyboard X-Status: R 73G8306 is the small keyboard (I have one and it is nice), but someone said there was a full size 101 key keyboard with the trackpoint, is that true? what's the part number on that one? From moore@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 20 15:18:04 1994 Received: from WILMA.CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01150 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:18:01 -0600 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id QAA03645; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:18:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199403202118.QAA03645@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Cc: moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: netbsd + pcmcia ether on the tp750 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 18 Mar 1994 16:11:15 EST." Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:18:04 -0500 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu Status: OR > >FWIW, I finally got my pcmcia ethernet card to work under netbsd on > >my thinkpad 750. It turns out that my driver works if I assign > >IRQ 5 to the card, but not if I assign IRQ 10. There are no conflicts > >(that I know of) with either IRQ. > > Isn't the sound card on IRQ 10? If it's not disable, that may be the > problem... Well, I wasn't getting any interrupts at all, not even from the wrong device. So I don't think that was the problem. I suspect that the IBM PCMCIA controller simply doesn't support that interrupt...probably to save pins on the controller chip. > So now you have ethernet card under BSD? What do you think of that > 3Com PCMCIA Ethernet card for $99? I'm thinking of getting that... I don't know anything about it. Keith From dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU Sun Mar 20 15:27:40 1994 Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03698 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:27:38 -0600 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA21881; Sun, 20 Mar 94 16:27:39 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 94 16:27:39 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403202127.AA21881@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: bad pixels on 750 TFT Status: OR 24 brightly colored pixels scattered around the screen would render a 750C completely unusable in my opinion. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 15:40:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07521 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:40:10 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA08599; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:14:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:14:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA08591; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:14:43 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA00026 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:14:40 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: bad pixels on 750 TFT Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 16:10:18 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9403181916.AA00629@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> Lines: 6 Status: OR >I asked my dealer. He said the policy is either 25 bad pixels or two >adjacent bum pixels in the middle of the screen. He hears that IBM's >reject rate is about 80%. That's strange. I sent mine back after I got seven bad pixels and they repaired it. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 16:12:41 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16895 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:12:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA10724; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:50:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:50:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA10717; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:50:04 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA10236 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:49:53 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: TPII and Keys Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:33:23 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9403200403.AA17799@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> Lines: 5 Status: OR >I find the fading paint on the keys quite annoying, this is a small quality >problem that IBM should fix in future models I absolutely agree! Has anyone found an effective way around it? Or a way to "paint" them back on? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 16:15:43 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17911 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:15:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA10794; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:50:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:50:21 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA10760; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:50:18 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA10348 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:50:13 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Suspend modes Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:27:19 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9402197641.AA764123191@warren.med.harvard.edu> Lines: 9 Status: OR >I rarely explicitely enter suspend. (I wish I could get >a mode like standby where the disk spins down but the >display stays on.) You could always go to the settings and set the disk to spin down sooner than the screen. That would sort of do it. But the main problem is that the screen is probably what sucks up most of the juice. Another solution is to work off a RAM disk... at least in DOS anyway... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 16:15:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17944 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:15:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA10791; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:50:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:50:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA10766; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:50:19 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA10355 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:50:14 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Keeping track of TP mailing list Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:46:10 -0500 Message-Id: Lines: 8 Status: OR One method to help us keep track of the mailing list is to be careful with our headers. Make sure that there is an appropriate subject and make sure the letter is going out to the tp750@cs.utk.edu only. I know that it's easier to send a cc to the group, but that generates more traffic. I know I'm guilty of these things as well, but I'll try to change if you will! :) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 16:18:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18740 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:18:07 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA10756; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:50:16 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:50:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA10736; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:50:12 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA10318 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:50:09 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: CPU Upgrade? Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:38:24 -0500 Message-Id: <0HBZjWwf5$XU058yn@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> In-Reply-To: <84801.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> Lines: 8 Status: OR >One idea we might try is to bundle each day's messages into packets and send >just one packet. I've seen a couple other mailing lists that do this so If we can't set up a newsgroup, then this is the route I'd like to see. It would make archiving this mail list a lot easier for me since I wouldn't have to go through and pick out my real mail... Does anyone know of how to set up such a mailer? Keith? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 16:19:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19113 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:19:13 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA10923; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:54:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:54:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA10913; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:53:57 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA11371 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:53:52 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403202153.AA11371@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: "Eraser" tip To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:53:51 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I'd like to see an eraser tip that has a rough surface. Does anyone know of such a beast or maybe someone here has knowledge of rubber manufacture? From moore@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 20 16:37:15 1994 Received: from WILMA.CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25311 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 16:37:13 -0600 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id RAA03839; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:36:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199403202236.RAA03839@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CPU Upgrade? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:38:24 EST." <0HBZjWwf5$XU058yn@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:36:59 -0500 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu Status: OR > Does anyone know of how to set up such a mailer? Keith? I'm sure I could cobble up some scripts to build digests, if enough people want them. --------- For another approach to solving the problem: I have a separate mailbox for each list that I'm subscribed to. For example, my tp750 traffic comes to moore+tp750@cs.utk.edu. My sendmail config knows to deliver this to my tp750 folder instead of my normal inbox. Xmh even knows about it, and in the button marked "tp750" there is a square that gets filled in when I have new mail in that folder. It works very nicely! I can make that software available for others who want to install it. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 17:27:39 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12001 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:27:37 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA15233; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 18:07:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 18:07:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA15225; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 18:07:23 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA05207 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:07:20 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403202307.AA05207@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Digest Vote and Folders To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:07:17 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403202236.RAA03839@wilma.cs.utk.edu> from "Keith Moore" at Mar 20, 94 05:36:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I'm sure I could cobble up some scripts to build digests, if enough > people want them. Well, I guess the vote is on then. All those in favor of such a setup, please send me private email indicating so. If you are against it, let me know too. I won't assume either way for those who don't respond. > For another approach to solving the problem: > > I have a separate mailbox for each list that I'm subscribed to. For > example, my tp750 traffic comes to moore+tp750@cs.utk.edu. My sendmail > config knows to deliver this to my tp750 folder instead of my normal > inbox. Xmh even knows about it, and in the button marked "tp750" there > is a square that gets filled in when I have new mail in that folder. > It works very nicely! It'd be nice but I don't have X-Windows available for the Xmh to alert me. As for Elm, such a setup would be truly beneficial to me. I wasn't aware I could setup differnt folders. I will look for it. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 17:27:39 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12001 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:27:37 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA15233; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 18:07:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 18:07:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA15225; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 18:07:23 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA05207 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:07:20 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403202307.AA05207@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Digest Vote and Folders To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:07:17 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403202236.RAA03839@wilma.cs.utk.edu> from "Keith Moore" at Mar 20, 94 05:36:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I'm sure I could cobble up some scripts to build digests, if enough > people want them. Well, I guess the vote is on then. All those in favor of such a setup, please send me private email indicating so. If you are against it, let me know too. I won't assume either way for those who don't respond. > For another approach to solving the problem: > > I have a separate mailbox for each list that I'm subscribed to. For > example, my tp750 traffic comes to moore+tp750@cs.utk.edu. My sendmail > config knows to deliver this to my tp750 folder instead of my normal > inbox. Xmh even knows about it, and in the button marked "tp750" there > is a square that gets filled in when I have new mail in that folder. > It works very nicely! It'd be nice but I don't have X-Windows available for the Xmh to alert me. As for Elm, such a setup would be truly beneficial to me. I wasn't aware I could setup differnt folders. I will look for it. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 20 20:15:44 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04041 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 20:15:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA25054; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 20:55:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 20:55:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA25036; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 20:54:59 -0500 From: Received: from buddy.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id RAA26915; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:55:09 -0800 Received: by buddy.ucsc.edu (8.6.8/4.7) id RAA15967; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:55:00 -0800 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:55:00 -0800 Message-Id: <199403210155.RAA15967@buddy.ucsc.edu> To: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU, meister@cats.ucsc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: keyboard Status: OR They did not have a 101 key keyboard with the trackpoint as of Feb. 18. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 21 02:36:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02537 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 02:36:40 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA17485; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 02:53:47 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 02:53:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA17478; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 02:53:43 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA27148 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 01:53:38 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403210753.AA27148@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Latest info on TP750 series To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 01:53:37 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O Well, I've been navigating through CompuServe and have scooped up all the info I could for us. First, it appears that the System Disks are intended for all 750 series machines. They are BIOS upgrades (who knew?) and installed with relative ease. The latest version is 1.04 and fixes a number of things especially concerning suspend mode. Second, WIN-OS2 sounds are officially broken. Mike Anderson says it's being worked on. Let's hope for some speed here! :) Third, the PCMCIA light which stays on is supposed to. It indicates that there is a card in the socket and that card and socket services are loaded. Power is no more than 10mA so it's nothing to worry about. Forth, the keypads with the letters coming off is a known problem with the keyboard manufacturing process. They are in the process of fixing this and we can have them replaced now (although the letters will still come off) or wait for the new keyboards to come out (or both ). Fifth, OS/2 2.11 APM is officially broken. Use the OS/2 2.1 APM instead (although you can use VAPM.SYS from OS/2 2.11). And the most current version numbers of all pertinent TP disks: Audio 1.10 System 1.04 Utility 1.20 Video 1.12 A service I am willing to undertake is the copying of any of these disks. All you have to do is send my a pre-addressed, pre-stamped disk folder with one disk per TP disk you want. I will send it back ASAP. However, I cannot be held responsible for any damage or lost disk or what not but I will do my best. Send them to: Sean Chou 401 E. Chalmers #611 Champaign, IL 61820 BTW, I will only be here until the end of the summer. I will post the new address in advance though. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 21 04:52:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25458 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 04:52:19 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA00166; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 05:21:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 05:21:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA00145; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 05:21:07 -0500 Received: from werple.apana.org.au by yarrina.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA16790 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 20:21:09 +1000 Received: (from guardian@localhost) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id UAA12893; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 20:20:55 +1000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 20:19:41 +1000 (EST) From: Nick Allan Subject: switching off the screen To: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hi all I was wondering if there is anyway to turn the screen off while still using the thinkpad. I'm blind and don't need the screen to use the tp but I'd like to save as much power as possible. Thanks Regards Nick From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 21 09:11:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23149 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 09:11:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA19203; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 09:35:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 09:35:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA19188; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 09:35:37 -0500 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 9867; Mon, 21 Mar 94 09:35:50 EST Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 9677; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 09:35:50 EST Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 21 Mar 94 09:35:47 EST Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA16398; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 09:35:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 09:35:44 -0500 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9403211435.AA16398@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: bad pixels on 750 TFT Status: OR due to overwhelming demand, here is the DOS batch file which will turn your 750c display into solid colors so you can search for bad pixels. --andy @echo This program will change the color of the display so you can @echo check for bad pixels. You must have ANSI.SYS installed in your @echo CONFIG.SYS in order for this to work. Press any key to advance @echo to the next color. @pause @ps2 vexp on prompt $e[41;31m cls @pause > nul prompt $e[42;32m cls @pause > nul prompt $e[43;33m cls @pause > nul prompt $e[44;34m cls @pause > nul prompt $e[45;35m cls @pause > nul prompt $e[46;36m cls @pause > nul prompt $e[47;37m cls @pause > nul @ps2 vexp off prompt $e[40;37m$p$g cls From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 21 09:58:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09684 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 09:58:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA22455; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 10:18:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 10:18:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from elvis.neep.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA22448; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 10:18:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199403211518.KAA22448@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from [144.92.52.168] by elvis.neep.wisc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06520; Mon, 21 Mar 94 09:17:33 -0600 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 09:17:33 -0600 X-Sender: jake@elvis.neep.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jake@elvis.neep.wisc.edu (James P.Blanchard) Subject: running TP750 with lid closed X-Mailer: Status: OR I have a TP750Cs with an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse. I'd like to be able to close the lid when I use all these external gadgets, but I can't figure out how to prevent the SUSPEND from kicking in. The manual implies this is impossible, but I can't seem to get it to work. _______________________________________________ james p blanchard nuclear engineering and engineering physics ** university of wisconsin - madison ** blanchard@engr.wisc.edu OR jake@nucst6.neep.wisc.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 21 13:07:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05862 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 13:07:04 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA09094; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 13:33:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 13:32:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA09087; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 13:32:53 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA23048; Mon, 21 Mar 94 13:32:48 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 13:32:48 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403211832.AA23048@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jake@elvis.neep.wisc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: running TP750 with lid closed Status: OR just take the option not to suspend when the lid is down (it's a radial button you can select, or a check box, I can'r remember which, on the OS/2 version) From bruce@objy.com Mon Mar 21 13:44:29 1994 Received: from relay1.UU.NET by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22487 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 13:44:23 -0600 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwifm21979; Mon, 21 Mar 94 14:44:29 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04361; Mon, 21 Mar 94 11:32:59 PST Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA17823; Mon, 21 Mar 94 11:44:20 PST Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18868; Mon, 21 Mar 94 11:43:00 PST Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 11:43:00 PST From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9403211943.AA18868@opus.objy.com> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Suspend modes Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Speaking of suspend, I'm finding that suspend mode is using battery up much faster than I had hoped and limits it's usefulness. I was running OS/2 yesterday and put the machine (750C) into suspend at about 10: 00. At that point it claimed I had a battery that was 80% charged. I opened the lid at about 3:30 and found the system totally dead. I thought that suspend mode was pretty thrifty, but I guess not. I've got 12 Mbytes and I guess it has to keep that and the CPU alive in a limited fashion (is there an SL mode that just keeps the current context, like registers and so forth?) That would seem to require little power though. Anyone else had similar experiences? The good news is hibernation works just fine. I tried it for the first time Saturday leaving it that mode overnight. It came back to life without a hitch Sunday morning in about 10 seconds and OS/2 was right where I left it. I do find the beeping during the image save/load somewhat annoying though and while I haven't checked it out, I'm hoping there's a PS2 command to disable this. Anyone know? --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 21 16:12:01 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01374 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 16:11:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA23112; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 16:38:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 16:38:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA23096; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 16:38:09 -0500 From: Received: from buddy.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id NAA15008; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 13:38:18 -0800 Received: by buddy.ucsc.edu (8.6.8/4.7) id NAA23538; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 13:38:17 -0800 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 13:38:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199403212138.NAA23538@buddy.ucsc.edu> To: jake@elvis.neep.wisc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: running TP750 with lid closed Status: OR Have you loaded the Thinkpad Features program for Windows (ps2win.exe)? After starting this program, click the icon named "Power". Then click "More". You will then see the option "Will not suspend even if LCD is closed". I have not tried this, but all the others options in this menu seem to work. Or have you had a different experience? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 21 16:44:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15904 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 16:44:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA23971; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 16:49:22 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 16:49:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA23963; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 16:49:15 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA21317 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 15:49:10 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403212149.AA21317@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Suspend & Hibernation To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 15:49:09 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403211943.AA18868@opus.objy.com> from "Bruce Reed" at Mar 21, 94 11:42:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > running OS/2 yesterday and put the machine (750C) into suspend at about > 10:00. At that point it claimed I had a battery that was 80% charged. > I opened the lid at about 3:30 and found the system totally dead. I Hmm..I certainly don't think that suspend should suck up that much battery power. I've left mine overnight with little problems... What version of OS/2 are you using? > time Saturday leaving it that mode overnight. It came back to life without > a hitch Sunday morning in about 10 seconds and OS/2 was right where I left > it. I do find the beeping during the image save/load somewhat annoying though > and while I haven't checked it out, I'm hoping there's a PS2 command to > disable this. Anyone know? I agree. I went back to using it after condemning it only to find that, if it worked better, it would be an incredibly useful tool. Here's what I would propose as necessary to make it work better: 1. Not to lose my PCMCIA settings. I have to hot-plug it to get them to work again. 2. "On-the-fly" compression of the hibernation file. A 12MB file is extremely wasteful (most of us have 12MB) and, for at least Robert Dewar, with 20MB, it's just a phenomenal waste. I know this can be done since software can do it -- it should be able to be done with another Utility release and perhaps BIOS fix. 3. As, you say, stop that annoying beep. The picture is fine (indeed, even lovable) though. 4. Work totally reliably. I haven't had any crashes at all since I've applied the fix and CSD (OS/2 2.11), but that's only been a few days. From dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU Tue Mar 22 09:33:20 1994 Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18091 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 22 Mar 1994 09:33:17 -0600 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA24026; Tue, 22 Mar 94 10:32:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 10:32:56 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403221532.AA24026@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: bruce@objy.com, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Suspend modes Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Status: OR Suspend does use a fair amount of battery power. Expecting it to last 30 hours is unrealistic. If you suspend then you should remember to plug in at night. I personally find that hibernation (with 20 megs) takes about as long as a shut-down reboot, so I find it pretty painful and don't feel like wasting 20 megs of disk space on the feature. From dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU Tue Mar 22 09:37:49 1994 Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19179 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 22 Mar 1994 09:37:47 -0600 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA24062; Tue, 22 Mar 94 10:37:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 10:37:49 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403221537.AA24062@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Suspend & Hibernation Status: OR I am puzzled by the suspend complaint, can you clarify if you meant 5.5 hours or 29.5 hours, it is a big difference (i.e. are both times you gave yesterday, or is the first yesterday, and the second today, as I assumed in replying) 5.5 hours would mean something was definitely wrong From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 22 15:02:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12922 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 22 Mar 1994 15:02:09 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA23390; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 13:05:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 13:05:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA23353; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 13:05:21 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA01668; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 10:05:31 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) id KAA21392; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 10:05:22 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403221805.KAA21392@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Suspend modes To: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 10:05:22 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9403221532.AA24026@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Mar 22, 94 10:32:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Suspend does use a fair amount of battery power. Expecting it to last 30 > hours is unrealistic. If you suspend then you should remember to plug in > at night. I've put my machine in suspend for about 24 hours (I have a total of 12MB RAM) and lost no more than 15 to 20% of battery juice. Seems to me that conceivably, you could but it in suspend for 3 or 4 days and still have some juice (assuming it was fully charged to begin with--though it would definitely be due for a recharge!). Maybe your machine sucking up lots of power like his? > I personally find that hibernation (with 20 megs) takes about as long as > a shut-down reboot, so I find it pretty painful and don't feel like wasting > 20 megs of disk space on the feature. Can't say that I blame you! ;) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From jbormel@warren.med.harvard.edu Tue Mar 22 20:42:42 1994 Received: from jenner.med.harvard.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23727 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 22 Mar 1994 20:42:40 -0600 Received: from warren.med.harvard.edu by jenner.med.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25369; Tue, 22 Mar 94 21:40:49 -0500 Received: from ccMail by warren.med.harvard.edu id AA764400460 Tue, 22 Mar 94 21:27:40 EST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 21:27:40 EST From: jbormel@warren.med.harvard.edu Message-Id: <9402227644.AA764400460@warren.med.harvard.edu> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Suspend modes Status: OR I stumbled upon how to turn off the hard disk NOW while not turning off the display. (The reason you might enjoy doing this, in addition to the power saving, is that the thinkpad becomes silent!). There is a shareware program called COLAP (short for color laptop utility) that runs in DOS or a dos box in windows on dos. It has an option for toshiba machines, /T, that enables you, even on the tp750, to press RIGHT-SHIFT with DEL keys to turn off the hard disk. In addition, it can dim or brighten the VGA screen by altering vga color pallate. I was pleasantly surprised that the TOSHIBA setting worked. Time to start experimenting with other programs. >I rarely explicitely enter suspend. (I wish I could get >a mode like standby where the disk spins down but the >display stays on.) >>you could always go to the settings and set the disk to >>spin >>down sooner than the screen. That would sort of do it. >>But >>the main problem is that the screen is probably what sucks >>up >>most of the juice. Another solution is to work off a RAM >>disk... at least in DOS anyway... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 22 22:11:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21532 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:11:16 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA01531; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:54:29 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:54:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA01519; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:54:25 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17943; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 19:53:06 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 19:55:14 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Reply-To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Message-Id: <71714.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: An answer on programming tp750 audio, sort of. Status: OR I've come across the email address of somebody on tp750 development in Japan (No I won't distribute it, yet. I'll ask him if he wants it distributed). Here's what he had to say on programming the tp750 audio: And yes, I'm aware that my mailer sometimes doesn't put in my full return address. As I have 3 mail accounts, I have yet to track down which one is the culprit... ------------------------------ From: Ken Inoue xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Tue, 22 Mar 94 19:18:04 JST To: "John Kim" Subject: Who at IBM is in charge of TP750 stuff? .... Re programming the 750 audio, unfortunately I am not familiar with the register level details. If your people wish to program directly to the hardware, they may want to contact Crystal Semiconductor (the author of the Windows audio driver 1.0). Alternatively, they can write to the published device driver APIs for DOS, Windows, or OS/2 MMPM. ------------------------------ So I guess the next step for those of you who want to program the audio hardware directly is to find out who Crystal Semiconductor is and how to reach them. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 22 22:11:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21696 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:11:37 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA01552; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:54:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:54:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA01533; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:54:33 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17940; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 19:53:01 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 19:55:04 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Reply-To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Message-Id: <71705.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: bruce@objy.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Suspend modes Status: OR In message Mon, 21 Mar 94 11:43:00 PST, Bruce Reed writes: > running OS/2 yesterday and put the machine (750C) into suspend at about > 10:00. At that point it claimed I had a battery that was 80% charged. > I opened the lid at about 3:30 and found the system totally dead. I > thought that suspend mode was pretty thrifty, but I guess not. I've > got 12 Mbytes and I guess it has to keep that and the CPU alive in > a limited fashion (is there an SL mode that just keeps the current > context, like registers and so forth?) That would seem to require > little power though. Anyone else had similar experiences? I've got 12MB as well, and I get about 2 days in suspend with a full battery. I think there are a couple possibilities for what happened. The most likely is that the battery gauge was off when you put it into suspend - it was reading 80% when there was really only 30% or something like that. I've noticed this happens frequently when I charge a lot of times without draining the battery, but I don't know if that's the cause. The other possibility is that the TP just turned itself off. I've had this happen a couple times too. My guess is that the computer misreads the amount of voltage coming off the battery, thinks it's drained, and shuts off. 10 seconds to come out of hibernate? It's beginning to sound better and better. I need a bigger hard drive... :) -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 22 22:38:36 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00160 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:38:33 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA02688; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 23:13:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 23:13:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA02682; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 23:13:46 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id XAA08479; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 23:13:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199403230413.XAA08479@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: An answer on programming tp750 audio, sort of. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 22 Mar 1994 19:55:14 PST." <71714.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 23:13:44 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR > Re programming the 750 audio, unfortunately I am not familiar with > the register level details. If your people wish to program directly > to the hardware, they may want to contact Crystal Semiconductor (the > author of the Windows audio driver 1.0). Alternatively, they can > write to the published device driver APIs for DOS, Windows, or OS/2 > MMPM. > > So I guess the next step for those of you who want to program the > audio hardware directly is to find out who Crystal Semiconductor is > and how to reach them. Thanks. This does help a tiny bit, in that it verifies what another unnamed source at IBM had told me -- that the audio chip used in the tp750 is manufactured by both Analog Devices and Crystal Semiconductor. (apparently the two chips are compatible) If you find out any more, please let me (us?) know! Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 22 22:47:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02328 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:47:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA02669; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 23:12:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 23:12:27 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA02662; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 23:12:25 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA25286 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 94 22:57:43 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E1856F; Tue, 22 Mar 94 22:46:33 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Joystick/Case/Sound From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.335179.700.0CE1856F@channel1.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 11:32:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Joystick/Case/Sound Greetings... A few questions: 1) Turtle Beach is advertising a PCMCIA Audio Advantage sound card for $99. Anyone know anything about this sound card, or any way to give the 750c full Soundblaster compatibility with most games? 2) Is there an adapter for the 750c, that would allow you to plug in a regular Joystick? 3) I've see people in here discus 750c bag, but, has anyone come across a *Safari* canvas type bag? Something that wouldn't SCREAM "Laptop in Here"! I know there is a company in England that manufactures a GREAT light brown canvas camera bag with leather trim. Very expensive, but the quality is unmatched. The great thing about it, you would never guess it was a camera bag. Thanks in advance.... Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 00:13:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29243 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 00:13:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA08451; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 00:49:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 00:49:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA08444; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 00:49:29 -0500 From: Received: from cedrick (CEDRICK.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA25294; Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:45:16 CST Received: by cedrick (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA27957; Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:49:00 CST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:49:00 CST Message-Id: <9403230549.AA27957@cedrick> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Battery life with 12 meg vs. 20 meg of memory Status: OR I'm about to get more memory for my 750C and I'm trying to decide if I want to get an 8 or 16 meg card. Does anyone know how much battery life I might loose with the 16 meg vs. the 8 meg card, for both active and suspend mode (if it makes a difference)? Thanks, Wes From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 00:20:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00552 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 00:19:57 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA08732; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 00:55:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 00:55:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA08712; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 00:55:34 -0500 From: Received: from cedrick (CEDRICK.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA25441; Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:51:22 CST Received: by cedrick (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA27964; Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:55:05 CST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:55:05 CST Message-Id: <9403230555.AA27964@cedrick> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: [jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu: Re: Suspend modes] Status: OR What kind of memory did you have? I saw some messages about six weeks back (either on this list or in the laptop newsgroup, I don't recall which) about some third party memory mislabling such that 5 volt memory was being sold as 3 volt memory. Incredibly, it often worked, but it had the side effect of rapdily draining the battery. Sometimes there's a reason why cheap memory is cheap. Be careful. Wes Return-Path: X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:54:44 EST X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 19:55:04 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Reply-To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu To: bruce@objy.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Suspend modes In message Mon, 21 Mar 94 11:43:00 PST, Bruce Reed writes: > running OS/2 yesterday and put the machine (750C) into suspend at about > 10:00. At that point it claimed I had a battery that was 80% charged. > I opened the lid at about 3:30 and found the system totally dead. I > thought that suspend mode was pretty thrifty, but I guess not. I've > got 12 Mbytes and I guess it has to keep that and the CPU alive in > a limited fashion (is there an SL mode that just keeps the current > context, like registers and so forth?) That would seem to require > little power though. Anyone else had similar experiences? I've got 12MB as well, and I get about 2 days in suspend with a full battery. I think there are a couple possibilities for what happened. The most likely is that the battery gauge was off when you put it into suspend - it was reading 80% when there was really only 30% or something like that. I've noticed this happens frequently when I charge a lot of times without draining the battery, but I don't know if that's the cause. The other possibility is that the TP just turned itself off. I've had this happen a couple times too. My guess is that the computer misreads the amount of voltage coming off the battery, thinks it's drained, and shuts off. 10 seconds to come out of hibernate? It's beginning to sound better and better. I need a bigger hard drive... :) -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 00:29:41 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02712 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 00:29:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA08909; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 01:00:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 01:00:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA08894; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 01:00:23 -0500 From: Received: from cedrick (CEDRICK.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA25510; Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:56:12 CST Received: by cedrick (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA27971; Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:59:55 CST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:59:55 CST Message-Id: <9403230559.AA27971@cedrick> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: [joseph.pereira@channel1.com: Joystick/Case/Sound] Status: OR Another suggestion if you want a bag that doesn't yell "something expensive in here" is to look at diaper bags. Yes, that's right. Diaper bags. I knew a professional photographer many years ago who carried all of his camera gear in a diaper bag. He could leave it unlocked in the back seat of his car with the windows down, and it was never touched. Return-Path: X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 23:12:27 EST To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Joystick/Case/Sound From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 11:32:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Subject: Joystick/Case/Sound Greetings... A few questions: 1) Turtle Beach is advertising a PCMCIA Audio Advantage sound card for $99. Anyone know anything about this sound card, or any way to give the 750c full Soundblaster compatibility with most games? 2) Is there an adapter for the 750c, that would allow you to plug in a regular Joystick? 3) I've see people in here discus 750c bag, but, has anyone come across a *Safari* canvas type bag? Something that wouldn't SCREAM "Laptop in Here"! I know there is a company in England that manufactures a GREAT light brown canvas camera bag with leather trim. Very expensive, but the quality is unmatched. The great thing about it, you would never guess it was a camera bag. Thanks in advance.... Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 01:31:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13951 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 01:31:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA12820; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:02:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:02:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA12813; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:02:47 -0500 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id JAA14075 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 09:02:56 +0200 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id JAA14091 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 09:02:24 +0200 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 09:02:24 +0200 Message-Id: <199403230702.JAA14091@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: akilpinen@finabo.abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: RE: Suspend modes X-Mailer: Status: OR >> Suspend does use a fair amount of battery power. Expecting it to last 30 >> hours is unrealistic. If you suspend then you should remember to plug in >> at night. > > I've put my machine in suspend for about 24 hours (I have a total >of 12MB RAM) and lost no more than 15 to 20% of battery juice. Seems to me >that conceivably, you could but it in suspend for 3 or 4 days and still >have some juice (assuming it was fully charged to begin with--though it >would definitely be due for a recharge!). > > Maybe your machine sucking up lots of power like his? > >> I personally find that hibernation (with 20 megs) takes about as long as >> a shut-down reboot, so I find it pretty painful and don't feel like wasting >> 20 megs of disk space on the feature. > I use a similar configurationd and the figures 15%/24h seem to apply for me too. Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 01:31:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13979 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 01:31:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA12618; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:00:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:00:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA12610; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:00:29 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA08860 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 01:00:26 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403230700.AA08860@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Suspend modes To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 01:00:25 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <71705.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Mar 22, 94 07:54:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > The most likely is that the battery gauge was off when you put it into > suspend - it was reading 80% when there was really only 30% or something Frequently, it takes a while for my guage to get a proper reading... > The other possibility is that the TP just turned itself off. I've had this > happen a couple times too. My guess is that the computer misreads the Hmm..haven't heard that one yet. I'll be on the lookout for it. In case I didn't tell you guys, suspend and then a three finger salute (CTRL-ALT-DEL) still reboots without flushing... > 10 seconds to come out of hibernate? It's beginning to sound better and > better. I need a bigger hard drive... :) They need to develop on the fly compression for the hiberantion file. I know of at least one software program that can do it so I don't know why the TP shouldn't be able to... Other than that though, it isn't as bad as I had originally thought (especially with the BIOS 1.04). It hasn't failed on start up on me yet (fingers crossed), but it does still seem to have some problems (albeit small ones). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 02:32:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22337 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:32:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA16084; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:58:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:58:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA16077; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:58:46 -0500 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwilb16708; Wed, 23 Mar 94 02:58:56 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08816; Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:47:09 PST Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA17099; Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:58:36 PST Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10158; Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:57:11 PST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:57:11 PST From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9403230757.AA10158@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Suspend modes Status: OR I tested a little more and on an overnight suspend I only lost about 12%. Putting it back into suspend for another 5 hours only lost another 5%. This seems about right. I think the problem the other night may have been that I had the PCMCIA modem plugged in and this drained the battery. I thought suspend cut the PCMCIA power too, but perhaps not. --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 05:44:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18308 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 05:44:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA04381; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 06:05:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 06:05:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA04357; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 06:05:05 -0500 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (8.6.5:28/EUnetD-2.4.2.g) via EUnet id MAA19342; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 12:05:41 +0100 From: Klaus Eckhoff Date: Wed, 23 Mar 94 11:56:25 +0100 Message-Id: <9403231056.AA25792@osix.Materna.DE> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: high res on external monitor Status: OR > I have a TP750Cs with an external monitor. It's an IBM monitor, with the > letters 15P on the front. I'd like to run it in high res mode (1024x768), > but I can't seem to get it to work. The manual is confusing on this point. > Can someone help me do this? I have an external monitor running without any problems in 1024x768 mode. Here is the procedure for DOS/WIN. What you need to do initially: - check that c:\ibmvesa\vesa.exe is loaded in config.sys - cd c:\ibmvesa - set the monitor type with "vinstall" (or edit the frate.dat by hand) - cd c:\windows - call "setup" and set the monitor type to "TP750 1024x768" - reboot After this your TP is ready. Of course high resulution is only supported in MS-Windows and the internal LCD has to be switched off before you start windows. P.S. Be careful! Editing "frate.dat" by hand lets you set the refresh rate to 70 or 72 Hz even in high resolution mode. This is not supported by IBM. (Once I tried it and noticed some dithering on the sreen when moving the mouse). --- Klaus Eckhoff, Dr. Materna GmbH, D-44141 Dortmund, Germany, ke@Materna.DE From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 15:19:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22298 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:19:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA17752; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:39:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:39:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA17737; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:39:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (postman@localhost) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id PAA29703 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:31:54 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:30:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.14.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix11.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix11.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:30:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:30:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew A. Houghton" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: trackpoint II Status: OR Okay, I lied.. seems I mis-remembered a conversation over on the Toshiba forum of Compu$erve. The trackpoint is IBM's invention, licensed by Toshiba. The IBM uses strain gauges to sense pushing the stick, Toshiba decided to go with force sensitive resistors. No reason was given, besides mumble about "better technology." Sorry for misleading everyone, I humbly apologize, I'm eating my words even as I write this... See ya, Andrew From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 16:00:01 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10939 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:59:56 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA20508; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:15:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:15:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from csd36.cs.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA20497; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:15:45 -0500 Received: by csd36.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA05342; Wed, 23 Mar 94 16:15:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 94 16:15:43 -0500 From: kedem@csd36.cs.nyu.edu (Zvi Meir Kedem) Message-Id: <9403232115.AA05342@csd36.cs.nyu.edu> To: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: "Andrew A. Houghton"'s message of Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:30:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: trackpoint II Reply-To: kedem@cs.nyu.edu Status: OR The trackpoint is IBM's invention, licensed by Toshiba. The IBM uses strain gauges to sense pushing the stick, Toshiba decided to go with force sensitive resistors. No reason was given, besides mumble about "better technology." Personal opinion: Toshiba's is much worse. --Zvi From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 16:28:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23268 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:28:34 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA23592; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:54:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:54:35 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA23580; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:54:33 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA08604 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:54:25 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403232154.AA08604@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Hibernation beeps & Rubber caps To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:54:23 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Rubber caps for our Trackpoint II can be had from IBM at an unbelievably reasonable price. I'm not sure of the exact price but it's something like $10-15 for a pack of 3-5 (yeah, pretty broad range, but it was late on C$ and I can't find the message anymore). Also, that annoying hibernation beeping can be controlled by the Sounds applet with OS/2. I don't know about Windows and DOS, but I would presume the Thinkpad applet under sounds for Win and the PS2.EXE for DOS. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 00:05:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22644 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:05:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA24207; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:44:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:44:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA24200; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:44:53 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA21888; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 21:43:35 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 21:45:39 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Reply-To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Message-Id: <78339.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Who at IBM is in charge of TP750 stuff? Status: OR Looks like we might finally be seeing the TP750 support software available via ftp soon: ------------------------------ From: Ken Inoue xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Wed, 23 Mar 94 18:15:24 JST To: "John Kim" Subject: RE: Who at IBM is in charge of TP750 stuff? John: Our support engineer is in touch with the administrator of IBM's FTP site at watson.ibm.com. Please stay tuned. In the meantime, please try the IBM Help Center BBS if you are in a hurry. Re answering questions etc., as a matter of fact I am sysop of a couple ThinkPad related forums on IBM internal network and am getting about 10-20 queries a day right now, which pretty much occupies my spare time. Do you have any idea of what the message traffic volume might be if I decided to participate? .... Best regards, Ken Inoue -------------------------------- With the high level noise that comes through this mailing list (you know, useless chattering, like what I'm typing right now in parenthesis :) I don't think I'll ask him to consider joining, at least not until we have a bundled message option set up. What I can do is collect a bunch of questions (try to keep them short) and fire them off to him a few at a time. Just send them to me at (in preferential order): jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu Which reminds me, Keith, could you change my address on the mailing list to the first of the above two addresses? That's where I pick up my mail for my offline mail reader. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 02:49:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19027 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 02:49:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA04550; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 03:22:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 03:22:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA04542; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 03:22:33 -0500 From: Received: from buddy.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id AAA20386; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:22:43 -0800 Received: by buddy.ucsc.edu (8.6.8/4.7) id AAA20199; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:22:43 -0800 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:22:43 -0800 Message-Id: <199403240822.AAA20199@buddy.ucsc.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: SCSI connectors Status: OR Has anyone out there tried attaching SCSI devices to a TP750 without buying the docking station. I am looking at an ad for something called the Trantor connector. It attaches to the parallel port, and is supposed to work with SCSI CD-Roms, hard disks, tape drives, etc. Is this likely to be true? Would it be better to use a PCMCIA SCSI adapter card? Is the TP750 a SCSI system, and does it matter for this purpose? Any advice would be appreciated. Bob Meister From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 03:29:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21107 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 03:29:09 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id EAA07890; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 04:05:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 04:05:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id EAA07870; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 04:05:21 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA28265 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 94 04:01:54 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E1863D; Thu, 24 Mar 94 03:40:29 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Duracell Nickel Hydride From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.336489.700.0CE1863D@channel1.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 94 19:08:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Duracell Nickel Hydride Greetings.... Just saw an article concerning a Duracell Nickel Hydride rechargeble battery, that supposedly can be used it the 750c! The article claims that this battery has 40% LONGER SERVICE LIFE then any other laptop battery in the market today! Anyone know how true this is...and can the 750c use a third party battery? Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 09:14:39 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03584 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 09:14:35 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA04208; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 09:42:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 09:42:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hsdndev.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA04201; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 09:42:50 -0500 From: Received: from warren.med.harvard.edu by jenner.med.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09935; Thu, 24 Mar 94 09:40:25 -0500 Received: from ccMail by warren.med.harvard.edu id AA764530776 Thu, 24 Mar 94 09:39:36 EST Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 09:39:36 EST Message-Id: <9402247645.AA764530776@warren.med.harvard.edu> To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: SCSI connectors Status: OR See original note below. I have had great luck with the Trantor parallel-to-SCSI model II last year connecting a Toshiba T4400C to a cd-rom drive under DOS/windows. I have no reservations about reccommending TRANTOR. On the other hand, just before buying my thinkpad, I tried (ie bought) a Marlin/SyQuest bernoulli disk drive with a parallel-to-SCSI adapter and it didn't work at all. The company admitted that the power supply in the drive wasn't up to task and offered to upgrade it. I had the product less than 24 hours, 4 of which reading their manual, following their instructions, calling them, and otherwise wasting my time. I had lost confidence and returned it. Bottom line for me: I would use Trantor before others. One problem with using parallel port adapter is your printer access may not work despite the 'pass-thru'. Pass thru typically does not support bi-directional transfer which laser printers now take advantage of. [46] From: meister@cats.ucsc.edu 3/24/94 4:22AM (697 bytes: 9 n To: CS.UTK.EDU!tp750 at HMS-Internet Subject: SCSI connectors -----------------original------ Message Contents Has anyone out there tried attaching SCSI devices to a TP750 without buying the docking station. I am looking at an ad for something called the Trantor connector. It attaches to the parallel port, and is supposed to work with SCSI CD-Roms, hard disks, tape drives, etc. Is this likely to be true? Would it be better to use a PCMCIA SCSI adapter card? Is the TP750 a SCSI system, and does it matter for this purpose? Any advice would be appreciated. Bob Meister From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 09:58:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17810 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 09:58:30 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA07765; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:31:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:31:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ftp.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA07758; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:31:24 -0500 Received: from wco.ftp.com by ftp.com ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:31:35 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 07:29:25 PST Message-Id: <9403241529.AA15786@mailhost.wco.ftp.com> Received: from vida202 (vida202.wco.ftp.com) by mailhost.wco.ftp.com; Thu, 24 Mar 94 07:29:26 PST X-Sender: veizades@128.127.203.200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: veizades@ftp.com (John Veizades) Subject: Re: SCSI connectors X-Mailer: Status: OR At 12:22 AM 3/24/94 -0800, meister@cats.ucsc.edu wrote: > >Has anyone out there tried attaching SCSI devices to a TP750 without >buying the docking station. I am looking at an ad for something called >the Trantor connector. It attaches to the parallel port, and is supposed >to work with SCSI CD-Roms, hard disks, tape drives, etc. Is this likely >to be true? Would it be better to use a PCMCIA SCSI adapter card? Is >the TP750 a SCSI system, and does it matter for this purpose? >Any advice would be appreciated. I have used this device to connect a scsi drive to my 750. Very easy to use and install. Not blindingly fast but acceptable. The best feature is that you can use it on several machince including desktop systems whereas the PCMCIA solutons are pretty limited to laptops. The device has already been used on about four machine in my office and paid for itself. John Veizades... FTP Software From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 11:46:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03375 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:46:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA15605; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:21:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:21:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA15598; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:21:55 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA22154 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:21:52 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403241721.AA22154@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: More on hibernation/suspend beep To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:21:51 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403240125.AA04658@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu> from "Robert Castles" at Mar 23, 94 08:25:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > Also, that annoying hibernation beeping can be controlled by > > the Sounds applet with OS/2. I don't know about Windows and > > Please be more specific. I cannot find the hibernation mode as a System event > in the Sound application. Ah, my bust. Specifically, under OS/2, go to the Sounds applet and uncheck the 'Power Control Beep' alarm. I would assume that it's comparable for Win. DOS would probably be little more tricky with all those menus but keep an eye out for 'Power Control Beep'. I don't know what others sound may have been disabled by that though. I think that Suspend is gone too... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 12:08:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14539 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:08:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA16894; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:38:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:38:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA16884; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:37:58 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA29392 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:37:54 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403241737.AA29392@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: New REVISED Battery Tests! (Please Read) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:37:53 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <78356.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Mar 23, 94 09:45:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Well, the battery tests have so far been rather unsuccessful. I just got a new list of the members and it's very big. I assume a lot of you missed the original tests so I'm going to try it again (and again and again and again). Please take some time to fill out this new and simplified form which was made by John Kim. I will compile the results and post the averages when I've gotten enough data points (we should be able to get at least 10 tests for the monochrome and C models -- sorry Cs, Ce, and P owners). ------Cut here------- 1. What model TP750 do you have: Mono:__ Color:__ CS:__ P:__ 2. What OS(s) do you use: ____________________________________________ 2. What size hard drive do you have: ___ MB 3. How much memory do you have: ___ MB Who manufactured your card: _______________________________________ 4. What PCMCIA cards do you have (please place an x by the ones you normally leave in the machine)? PCMCIA Card Usually In Machine _______________________________________________ ______ _______________________________________________ ______ _______________________________________________ ______ _______________________________________________ ______ _______________________________________________ ______ 5. "Normal" Use Test: Just go about your daily routines and record the time you start and stop, as well as the battery gauge readings. Use the high CPU setting, and don't let the screen and hard drive turn off. Set screen brightness to low. Don't use PCMCIA cards (remove them). Try to use the computer for at least 1 hour, preferably >2 hours (or >50% of battery charge). Usage Start: Time:_____ Battery%:________ Usage Stop: Time:_____ Battery%:________ Difference: Time:_____ Battery%:________ Feel free to repeat this test as many times as you want. If you like, you can change options like CPU speed, screen brightness, etc. If you do change something, remember to note it when you fill out the survey. Otherwise we'll assume you tested with the toughest conditions, and be amazed you got 6 hours. Oh, playing games for a few hours is a great way to do this test. New conditions (if any):____________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ 6. Suspend Test: Put your machine in suspend and let it sit. Now I know most of you are too busy to let your machines sit all the way through this one so I would just like you to record one or two overnight suspends. If you can leave it suspended for longer, great! Entering suspend: Time:_____ Battery%:________ Exiting suspend: Time:_____ Battery%:________ Difference: Time:_____ Battery%:________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 13:25:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18610 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:25:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA21426; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:57:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:57:21 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blinky.ccmail.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA21414; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:57:18 -0500 From: Received: from smtpgate.ccmail.com by blinky.ccmail.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24491; Thu, 24 Mar 94 10:59:12 PST Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.ccmail.com id AA764535421 Thu, 24 Mar 94 10:57:01 pst Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 10:57:01 pst Message-Id: <9402247645.AA764535421@smtpgate.ccmail.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP700/720 Status: OR I joined this list because I've owned a 700C for more than a year, and found very little traffic on comp.sys.laptops about ThinkPads. It's disappointing how quickly the 700s and 720s have been obsoleted (but not that surprising, and of course pleasing if you waited to buy one). Are there any other 700/720 owners lurking out there? Is there a 700/720 mailing list? I can't even find 700 option announcements on the IBM ftp host (ibminect.awdpa.ibm.com, in /pub/announcements). --Cy-- P.S. IBM has dropped the price on the Port Replicators for the 700 to $49 (a mini-dock). A great deal! The 240 meg drive upgrade is still $919 though (ouch!). I assume there are no other suppliers for MCA drives, right? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 14:26:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13998 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 14:26:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA19495; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:26:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:25:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA19466; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:25:46 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA02991; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:25:45 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) id KAA16451; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:25:42 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403241825.KAA16451@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: SCSI connectors To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:25:42 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403240822.AAA20199@buddy.ucsc.edu> from "meister@cats.ucsc.edu" at Mar 24, 94 00:22:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Has anyone out there tried attaching SCSI devices to a TP750 without > buying the docking station. I am looking at an ad for something called > the Trantor connector. It attaches to the parallel port, and is supposed > to work with SCSI CD-Roms, hard disks, tape drives, etc. Is this likely > to be true? Would it be better to use a PCMCIA SCSI adapter card? Is > the TP750 a SCSI system, and does it matter for this purpose? I've seen in some advertisements that Adaptec has a PCMCIA SCSI adaptor. Seems to be available from various mail order companies. I presume that it would be much faster than a Parallel port solution, which is inherently slow. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 15:25:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10620 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 15:25:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA28756; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 15:59:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 15:59:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA28749; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 15:59:20 -0500 From: Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwiqt19371; Thu, 24 Mar 94 15:59:30 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13382; Thu, 24 Mar 94 12:47:50 PST Received: from server. by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA08704; Thu, 24 Mar 94 12:59:23 PST Received: by server. (5.57/SMI-4.0) id AA02445; Thu, 24 Mar 94 12:58:02 -0800 Message-Id: <9403242058.AA02445@server.> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: SCSI connectors Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 12:58:01 -0800 X-Mts: smtp Status: OR > I've seen in some advertisements that Adaptec has a PCMCIA SCSI > adaptor. Seems to be available from various mail order companies. The Adaptec isn't listed as a supported device under EasyPlay yet. There was only one SCSI card that was certified. I believe it's from NewVision (to be honest I can't remember the real name) and according to the chart in PCMCIA.CRD on the utils diskette it won't work with the Auto Configurator. This means you'll need the vendors's drivers to make it work. I missed the post about the Trantor EPP not working on the TP750. Is the TP EPP port not compatible with this adapter? --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 17:41:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10545 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 17:41:07 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA06362; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 18:18:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 18:18:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA06354; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 18:18:44 -0500 From: Received: from bartles (BARTLES.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA23890; Thu, 24 Mar 94 17:14:31 CST Received: by bartles (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA06725; Thu, 24 Mar 94 17:18:16 CST Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 17:18:16 CST Message-Id: <9403242318.AA06725@bartles> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Just installed my Megahertz XJ2144 in my 750C Status: OR I just received and installed a Megahertz XJ2144 in my 750C. On the up side, it was very easy to install and get working. On the down side, it came with a manual that doesn't yet cover the XJ2144. The Megahertz manual is a universal manual that covers all of their modems, which break down into three command sets. The XJ2144 wasn't listed with any of the three command sets, and each command set had commands within it which produced an ERROR when typed into the XJ2144. In spite of the manual, which I assume will be corrected over time, I'm pleased so far with the product. Wes From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 17:57:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16308 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 17:57:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA07096; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 18:31:54 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 18:31:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA07081; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 18:31:49 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA24332 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 94 18:18:38 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E18699; Thu, 24 Mar 94 18:06:39 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Duracell Nickel Hydri From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.337587.700.0CE18699@channel1.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 17:53:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Re: Duracell Nickel Hydride >> Subject: Duracell Nickel Hydride >> >> Greetings.... >> Just saw an article concerning a Duracell Nickel Hydride rechargeble >> battery, that supposedly can be used it the 750c! The article claims >> that this battery has 40% LONGER SERVICE LIFE then any other laptop >> battery in the market today! > I'm very happy to see this! Thanks for sharing! > Could you please post the source too? And does it specifically >mention that this Duracell battery is specifically made for use in the >IBM 750 series? > Any word on where it can be obtained and for how much? 800 >numbers or anything like that? Hi Randy... Just like me to post something without any details! ;) First, the article came from WINDOW SOURCES, April '94 issue! >From the article, apparently Duracell does make a battery for the 750c amongst a few other Laptops! The author called COMUSA in Philadelphia...battery for the 750c was a stock item, but it was out. Would take 2 to 3 weeks for delivery! He also called FRY'S ELECTRONICS in Sunnyvale, CA. There it would have to be ordered, and would take 10 to 14 days. This seems to good to be true, 40% EXTRA battery live for the 750c!!!! Apparently it is true......!! Joseph Pereira ps:There were no 800 #'s given Randy! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 25 00:38:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26463 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:38:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02867; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:23:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:23:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02858; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:23:36 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA23309 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:23:32 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403250623.AA23309@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Add-on to battery tests To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:23:31 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Please add the OS you are using to the battery test info. Also, be sure to send it to me via email -- we don't need to clutter up the list some more... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 25 00:39:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26476 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:39:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02808; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:21:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:21:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02801; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:21:31 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA22783 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:21:28 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403250621.AA22783@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: SCSI connectors To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:21:27 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403242058.AA02445@server.> from "bruce@objy.com" at Mar 24, 94 12:57:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > The Adaptec isn't listed as a supported device under EasyPlay yet. There > was only one SCSI card that was certified. I believe it's from NewVision > (to be honest I can't remember the real name) and according to the chart in > PCMCIA.CRD on the utils diskette it won't work with the Auto Configurator. > This means you'll need the vendors's drivers to make it work. Can we make an entry for it? I don't really use EasyPlay, the program -- just the autodriver. I'd like more info on EasyPlay... > I missed the post about the Trantor EPP not working on the TP750. Is the > TP EPP port not compatible with this adapter? Apparently, the Trantor EPP isn't compatible with all the TP750 models (or at least in the messages I've seen so far). The one model I now it works with is the 750C. I know problems have occured with the Ce and the Trantor (kind of ironic, huh?). To use the Trantor EPP, you have to set the LPT port to LPT2. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 25 00:55:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29874 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:55:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA03603; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:34:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:34:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA03595; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:34:30 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA26650; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 22:33:21 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 22:35:26 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <81326.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: SCSI connectors Status: OR In message Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:22:43 -0800, meister@cats.ucsc.edu writes: > Has anyone out there tried attaching SCSI devices to a TP750 without > buying the docking station. I am looking at an ad for something called > the Trantor connector. It attaches to the parallel port, and is supposed > to work with SCSI CD-Roms, hard disks, tape drives, etc. Is this likely > to be true? Would it be better to use a PCMCIA SCSI adapter card? Is > the TP750 a SCSI system, and does it matter for this purpose? A friend of mine lent me his ParaSCSI parallel port/SCSI adapter while he was out of the country. I only got to try it with a CD-ROM drive, and I only got it partially working, but I didn't really try hard. I could control the CD-ROM, and play music off it, but every time I did a 'dir' I got a device not ready error. My guess is that I didn't configure something right (it was an old drive). I don't see why it wouldn't work. As to whether or not a parallel port SCSI adapter or PCMCIA card is better, the ParaSCSI manaul said their EPP (Enhanced Parallel Port) version had a transfer rate of 1MB/sec. The PCMCIA standard is equivalent to a 16-bit ISA bus which I think (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) is capable of only slightly more than that. The TP750 has an EPP. The PCMCIA SCSI card might be better since there are SCSI-2 versions, and once it's configured properly, it acts just like an ISA card. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 25 00:55:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29883 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:55:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA03615; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:34:43 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:34:42 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA03605; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:34:38 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA26653; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 22:33:29 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 22:35:35 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <81335.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: joseph.pereira@channel1.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Duracell Nickel Hydride Status: OR In message Wed, 23 Mar 94 19:08:00 -0500, joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) writes: > Just saw an article concerning a Duracell Nickel Hydride rechargeble > battery, that supposedly can be used it the 750c! The article claims > that this battery has 40% LONGER SERVICE LIFE then any other laptop > battery in the market today! 40% longer service life probably means it can be used for 700 recharge/ discharge cycles instead of the 500 that's normal for most NiMH batteries. The time the battery life will last on one charge is labeled in amp-hours. If they can figure out a way to get more amp-hours out of the same sized NiMH battery, great. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 25 01:21:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04326 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:21:13 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA05460; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 02:04:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 02:04:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA05451; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 02:04:00 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA26737; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 23:02:51 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 23:04:57 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <83098.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: More on hibernation/suspend beep Status: OR In message Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:21:51 -0600 (CST), Sean Chou writes: > Ah, my bust. Specifically, under OS/2, go to the Sounds applet and > uncheck the 'Power Control Beep' alarm. I would assume that it's > comparable for Win. DOS would probably be little more tricky > with all those menus but keep an eye out for 'Power Control Beep'. Under DOS, if you just type 'ps2' you get a menu that has the same options as the OS/2 and Windows power management folders. If you have a mouse driver installed, you can even use a mouse to pick your options. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU Fri Mar 25 03:44:29 1994 Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18974 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 03:44:26 -0600 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA01921; Fri, 25 Mar 94 04:44:27 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 04:44:27 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403250944.AA01921@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: IBM UK Customer Service... Status: OR I am trying to get Return to ZOrk working onthe TP750. The music works fine, but the digitized speach just causes strange squeaks. Anyone have any ideas? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 25 06:41:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09662 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 06:41:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id HAA02153; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 07:24:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 07:24:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id HAA02146; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 07:24:17 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA02590; Fri, 25 Mar 94 07:24:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 07:24:21 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403251224.AA02590@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu, kedem@cs.nyu.edu Subject: Re: trackpoint II Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR I agree, the Toshiba TPII is not nearly as good as the IBM one. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 25 09:22:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03184 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 09:22:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA12394; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 09:52:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 09:52:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from u.cc.utah.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA12386; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 09:52:50 -0500 Received: (from pawcamp@localhost) by u.cc.utah.edu (8.6.8/8.6.7uucc-b) id HAA29670; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 07:52:39 -0700 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 07:49:46 -0700 (MST) From: Paul Campbell Subject: Re: Just installed my Megahertz XJ2144 in my 750C To: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9403242318.AA06725@bartles> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Thu, 24 Mar 1994 byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com wrote: > > I just received and installed a Megahertz XJ2144 in my 750C. > > On the up side, it was very easy to install and get working. > > On the down side, it came with a manual that doesn't yet cover the > XJ2144. The Megahertz manual is a universal manual that covers all of > their modems, which break down into three command sets. The XJ2144 > wasn't listed with any of the three command sets, and each command set > had commands within it which produced an ERROR when typed into the > XJ2144. You are correct in assuming that the manual is universal. The difference between the XJ1144 and the XJ2144 is that the XJ2144 has MNP10 and flash-upgradability. YOu should refer to the Rockwell AT command set within your manual. If you have any further questions, call our Technical Support Line @ 1-800-LAPTOPS Thanks for buying Megahertz... =pc= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 26 17:45:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10312 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 26 Mar 1994 17:45:49 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA10556; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 18:27:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 18:27:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA10543; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 18:27:46 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA06452 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 26 Mar 1994 17:27:29 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403262327.AA06452@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 17:27:28 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403262121.NAA15902@buddy.ucsc.edu> from "meister@cats.ucsc.edu" at Mar 26, 94 01:21:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Before I went out and bought ED floppies, I tried formatting a > generic 1.44 HD disk as a 2.88 disk using Norton > Desktop for Windows 3.0. Much to my surprise the > disk worked normally in all respects. Since then I Both John Kim and I have done this with success. However, John hasn't ever told us how his disks have survived the test of time. I lost track of my normal HD disk formatted to 2.88 but they were fine after a month at least. OTOH, many of my disks started showing bad sectors for some strange reason. I don't know if it has anything to do with the 2.88 format or the TP (I remember reading somewhere that the TP had some problems with OS/2's formatting). And that reminds me, the cheapest source I've found for 2.88 floppies thus far has been the Media Factory at around $2.30 per disk. The number is 800-879-9536. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 26 21:22:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18302 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 26 Mar 1994 21:22:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA22449; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 22:06:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 22:06:42 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA22442; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 22:06:40 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA24464; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 19:06:37 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) id TAA20333; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 19:06:34 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403270306.TAA20333@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 19:06:33 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403262121.NAA15902@buddy.ucsc.edu> from "meister@cats.ucsc.edu" at Mar 26, 94 01:21:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Before proceeding with this, I checked with someone at IBM tech > support, who was not surprised. He told me that > one can indeed format > ordinary HD disks for 2.88 -- but that they are > not as reliable for use in transferring data > between different machines. (They work best on > the drive that formatted them.) Not having access > to another 2.88 drive, I have not tested the > point. Way back when 2.88 was first invented, I had a 2.88 drive in my desktop machine and a special floppy controller to make it work. What a disappointment. I currently have formatted one HD 1.44 disk as a 2.88 with my ThinkPad, and use it to hold lots of DOS 6.1 stuff on it (for the purpose of screwing around from a booted floppy--but for safety reasons, it is definitely *not* the only one I have as a boot floppy!). You're right--it works. But I wouldn't rely on it. Just like the people who used to punch holes in 720K disks and format them as 1.44's. Big mistake. The bottom line is that they aren't built to the same tolerances. The magnetic media is not as dense, and therefore not as safe. Sure, you can format it for a higher density, but the liklihood of failure increases manyfold. If you plan to use 2.88 format with any regularity, keep those 2.88 ED disks you bought. If you do not, one day when you least expect it, one of those 1.44 disks you formatted to 2.88 will fail on you and you'll be quite unhappy. Isn't the extra 1 or 2 bucks worth it to keep that from happening at some critical juncture? ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 26 21:56:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23787 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 26 Mar 1994 21:56:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA24168; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 22:39:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 22:39:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA24161; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 22:39:39 -0500 From: Received: from cedrick (CEDRICK.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA08001; Sat, 26 Mar 94 21:35:11 CST Received: by cedrick (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA02547; Sat, 26 Mar 94 21:38:58 CST Date: Sat, 26 Mar 94 21:38:58 CST Message-Id: <9403270338.AA02547@cedrick> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: [meister@cats.ucsc.edu: 2.88 fdd] Status: OR I personally would not trust a reformatted 1.44->2.88 floppy as a backup/archive media. Return-Path: X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 16:21:47 EST From: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 13:21:41 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 2.88 fdd Before I went out and bought ED floppies, I tried formatting a generic 1.44 HD disk as a 2.88 disk using Norton Desktop for Windows 3.0. Much to my surprise the disk worked normally in all respects. Since then I have been using reformatted 1.44 disks to back up and archive my data -- which seem to hold nearly 6 mb of data/disk in zipped form. Before proceeding with this, I checked with someone at IBM tech support, who was not surprised. He told me that one can indeed format ordinary HD disks for 2.88 -- but that they are not as reliable for use in transferring data between different machines. (They work best on the drive that formatted them.) Not having access to another 2.88 drive, I have not tested the point. Has any one else tried this? doing it? (There is, I suppose, an element of insecurity if I have to use another 2.88 drive to recover my data, most of which is also on my desktop in any case.) Are there other potential problems that have not occurred to me? The ED disks are rather expensive, and thus far my box of them remains unopened. Bob Meister From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 26 23:18:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06423 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 26 Mar 1994 23:18:09 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA28993; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 00:04:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 00:04:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA28986; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 00:04:00 -0500 From: Received: from cedrick (CEDRICK.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA08595; Sat, 26 Mar 94 22:59:32 CST Received: by cedrick (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA02629; Sat, 26 Mar 94 23:03:19 CST Date: Sat, 26 Mar 94 23:03:19 CST Message-Id: <9403270503.AA02629@cedrick> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com Subject: 750 SYS 1.04 BIOS, 1.21 Utilities,Megahertz XJ2144,Suspend,Resume,Hibernate Status: OR Summary of this long post: - there's a new utility disk, version 1.21, on the IBM BBS that's just a few days old. - tells how to get the XJ2144 (& presumably other PCMCIA modems) to work across suspend/resume and hibernate transitions (for MS-DOS 6.2/Windows 3.1 at least). After working a bit with my XJ2144, I found a minor problem with resuming from suspend. For some reason, whenever the XJ2144 drivers were installed & I resumed from suspend, my screen would not light up for entering my ROM password. It would come on after I entered my password and the DOS or Windows screen reappeared. Really weird. Not a big deal, but it annoyed me, so I called Megahertz. They were very helpful and sent a FAX pointing me to the IBM BBS and the new Utilities disk. I cross referenced their FAX to my archives of this mailing list, and found nearly the exact same message here (I should have looked at my archives first!). So I called the IBM BBS, and downloaded both Version 1.04 of the BIOS and Version >>>>> 1.21 <<<<< of the Utilities disk (yes, there's a new version of the Utilities disk as of just a few days ago. This version apparently replaces 1.2x. I didn't notice anything in 1.21 that 1.2x didn't already have. I wonder if 1.2x was a test/experimental release, therefore, the x?) I loaded everything up, tried out EzPlay, and removed all references to Mezahertz from my CONFIG.SYS, AUTOEXEC.BAT, and SYSTEM.INI -- they aren't needed any more with Ezplay. I made sure my modem was still working, then tried the suspend/resume test. Boom! My back light is still not coming on. After doing a few more test, I found other problems, such as the PCMCIA not powering up after coming out of hibernate and system hangs when resuming from a suspend while in Procomm for Windows (these might have also been there before - I really didn't get into this level of testing when I hit the back light problem and got the FAX). But I found the trick! I went back into my CONFIG.SYS and deleted all the lines having anything to do with PCMCIA, rebooted, then loaded the 1.21 Utilities again. It added all the PCMCIA lines back to myCONFIG.SYS, and you guessed it, now everything works correctly! I can suspend/resume and my screen lights up for the password entry. The PCMCIA power is turned off on suspend, and turns back on on resume (there is a short pause that didn't used to be there before while I guess it reinitializes the cards). I can use the modem after a suspend/resume! I can even use the modem after a power up from hibernate! It's great! All I can surmise is that the Utilities install program, PCMINSTW, must not have moved all the new files across because it saw the devices already loaded. When I removed the devices, it must have done the install as a virgin install (any other theories?). Summary of what I did (for my 750C running MS DOS 6.2 & Windows 3.1): 1) Loaded Version 1.04 of the BIOS (SY750104.EXE from the IBM BBS or SYS750 on CompuServe). 2) Removed all CONFIG.SYS PCMCIA device entries 3) Removed all MEGAHERTZ entries from CONFIG.SYS, AUTOEXEC.BAT, & SYSTEM.INI (these were left over from running the Megahertz install program when I first got the modem. EzPlay seems to eliminate the need for any Megahertz software on the system -- have card, will travel). 4) Rebooted, then ran PCMINSTW from the Utilities Disk Version 1.21 (UT750121.EXE from the IBM BBS; not yet on CompuServe). Next step -- getting my IBM PCMCIA Ethernet to work. It should be a lot easier now with EzPlay. I need to use it with both Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and with TCP/IP. I'll be loading all this up week-after-next when I return from Microsoft Tech Ed. Any war stories and mine pit warnings would be appreciated before I start. Anyone know what new twist the Ezplay puts on the Ethernet PCMCIA? Should I, or should I not, install what's on the IBM floppy for the card? Ezplay does see the card, but for the moment shows it as not ready. Onward through the fog. Wes From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 02:08:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00724 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:08:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA07778; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:51:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:51:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA07771; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:51:23 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA27252 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 01:51:06 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403270751.AA27252@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: 3COM ethernet card To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 01:51:05 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Has anyone gotten a 3COM ethernet card? (The one for $99)... I'm wondering if it'll work with our TPs and OS/2. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 02:18:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01863 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:18:57 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA08471; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 03:03:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 03:03:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA08462; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 03:02:59 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA00104 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:02:42 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403270802.AA00104@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: TP750 newsgroup To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:02:42 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR It seems there is quite a bit of interest in a newsgroup for us; however, I don't know how to form a newsgroup nor do I know ho many people we would need. I do suggest that we form a general Thinkpad group though if we don't have the numbers for a TP750 group...or maybe a TP7XX group... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 09:24:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05830 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 09:24:04 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA06987; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 09:57:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 09:57:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom9.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA06980; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 09:57:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id GAA29413; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 06:58:09 -0800 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 06:57:41 -0800 (PST) From: Arie Litman Subject: Re: CPU Upgrade? (fwd) To: TP-750 List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lets make this a news group! Arie Litman voice (408)441-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 16:49:27 -0500 From: Robert Dewar To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: CPU Upgrade? Now that the vlume on this mailinfg list is getting bigger, shouldn't it be conbverted to a newsgroup? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 11:16:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17635 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 11:16:26 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA13801; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 11:58:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 11:58:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mailgate.prod.aol.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA13794; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 11:58:51 -0500 From: Received: by mailgate.prod.aol.net (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13176; Sun, 27 Mar 94 11:56:41 -0500 X-Mailer: America Online Mailer Sender: "mreagin" Message-Id: <9403271156.tn162459@aol.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Mar 94 11:56:39 EST Subject: 3Com Ethernet Card Status: OR I just received the Etherlink III 3c589-TP PCMCIA network adapter, but I have not figured out how to make it work yet. I have a TP750 (12 MEG ram & 340 MEG HD) with IBM DOS 6.1 and Windows for Workgroup 3.11. The Etherdisk diagnostics are able to find and configure the card, but I would like to get it to work with NCSA telnet and MS Kermit through the use of a packet driver. I called the 3com BBS and found a 3com packet driver for the Etherlink III series. The filename is 3C5X9PD.COM. The packet driver is not able to find the card, however. Can anyone help me find the proper packet driver and setup for this card? One final note. On the outside of the box, the TP750 IS listed as a compatible laptop. Thanks for the help. Mike Reagin mreagin@aol.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 15:33:23 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22188 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 15:33:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA26689; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 16:10:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 16:10:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hamlet.ucdavis.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA26672; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 16:10:30 -0500 From: Received: by hamlet.ucdavis.edu (8.6.8/UCD2.50) id MAA29719; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 12:46:59 -0800 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 12:46:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: TP750 newsgroup To: Sean Chou Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403270802.AA00104@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Sun, 27 Mar 1994, Sean Chou wrote: > It seems there is quite a bit of interest in a newsgroup for us; > however, I don't know how to form a newsgroup nor do I know ho > many people we would need. > > I do suggest that we form a general Thinkpad group though if we > don't have the numbers for a TP750 group...or maybe a TP7XX > group... > YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Let's have a newsgroup. Brian From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 16:57:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15450 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 16:57:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA01886; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 17:38:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 17:38:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA01879; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 17:38:04 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17053; Sun, 27 Mar 94 17:37:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 94 17:37:41 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403272237.AA17053@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd Status: OR I installed a Teac 2.88 meg drive on my Intel series X top, and indeed I did have some trouble transferring bogus reformatted 1.44 meg diskettes, so now I use ED's with absolutely no trouble at all. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 21:49:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17742 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 21:49:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA26852; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:24:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:24:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA26845; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:24:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (postman@localhost) by andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA13612 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:24:18 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:24:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix7.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:23:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix7.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.14.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix7.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix7.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:23:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:23:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew A. Houghton" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: comm software Status: OR here's the question: what flavors of communications software are people using on their tp's and with what success? The reason I ask is I'm having lots of problems with my thinkpad in certain situations, and while I _think_ the problem is hardware related, it could very well be software. Here's the problem: essentially, characters are getting dropped at high speed. I've tried this with both my intel and with a direct connection, and I get the same results -- skewed display as a result of lost characters. I'm trying to connect to my university, and the exact same setup works perfectly on my desktop machine -- same hardware (direct connection), and same software (windows for workgroups 3.11 w/ Procomm Plus for Windows -- although the problem also manifests itself with the Windows terminal package, and a number of DOS-only comm packages). Has anyone seen this behavior under similar situations? Or am I the only one with (what appears to be) an iffy serial port? As I said, I'm leaning towards a hardware problem since it works on one machine, and doesn't on another; additionally since it fails so consistently under so many different communications packages. suggestions? - Andrew From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 21:55:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19466 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 21:55:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA27793; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:37:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:37:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA27774; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:36:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (postman@localhost) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA08233 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:36:54 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:36:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix7.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:35:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix7.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.14.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix7.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix7.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:35:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:35:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew A. Houghton" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: comm software In-Reply-To: References: Status: OR okay -- I just realized I was an idiot for comparing a PCMCIA modem and a direct connection through the serial port; makes me less inclined to believe it's solely a hardware problem :) ... and yet, the problem still exists. - andrew From dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU Sun Mar 27 23:59:24 1994 Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24217 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 23:59:21 -0600 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA18123; Mon, 28 Mar 94 00:59:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 00:59:27 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403280559.AA18123@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Sorry, but I gotta vent this... Status: OR actually for me, the single thing that makes me consider only a TP is the Trackpoint-II. Sure many other features are nice, but are matched or close to matched by other laptops. In particular, having seen them side by side, the new Versa screen, though a bit smaller, is considerably brighter than the TP. ALso the Versa's are more upgradable, one of the biggest weeknesses of TP's has been their lack of upgradability with respect to processor chips. But the TPII is certainly worth the price of admission! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 00:11:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27208 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 00:11:07 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA06145; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 00:43:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 00:43:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA06138; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 00:43:07 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA20004 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 23:42:50 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403280542.AA20004@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Sorry, but I gotta vent this... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 23:42:49 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I can't believe some of the people that are out there. Where do they get their accounts? I can't seriously believe they are affiliated with a university (god forbid if they're staff members)! This is one of the messages I got in response to my post on forming a TP newsgroup... Forwarded message: > From jbhoward@gibbs.oit.unc.edu Sun Mar 27 16:56:10 1994 > Date: Sun, 27 Mar 94 17:56:18 -0500 > From: jbhoward@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (james howard) > Message-Id: <9403272256.AA21450@gibbs.oit.unc.edu> > To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu > Subject: Thinkpad 750 newsgroup is pointless! > > > look, I have tried for months to get a 750C, and it is impossible > The only places that have them in stock are charging 3000$ over > retail price, putting them way out of the range of ordinary mortals. > > IBM has stopped taking orders for them, and hasnt had any in > stock for months- in fact, the lady I spoke to at IBM direct told > me they have only *HAD* 900 of them, total, since they ever > started selling them. > > Face it, the only reason the 750c is nice is because it is th > the only laptop with a 10.4 screen, other than that it sucks. > > As soon as any other company makes a 10.4 screen laptop, the > 750c will become nothing more than an overpriced relic. > > regards, > james > Once again, sorry for posting this to the group in general but I want you guys to know how lucky we are to have machines that cause so much jealousy in people! :) James can't hope that we beleive for a moment that he tried for months to get a machine that he thinks sucks... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 06:08:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18764 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:08:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA01681; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:50:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:50:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA01662; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:50:23 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA18482; Mon, 28 Mar 94 06:50:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 06:50:16 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403281150.AA18482@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinkpad availability Status: OR The 750C is about to be obsoleted by the new models using the DX3 chip. THe timescale is not clear, but it is suspicious that our bookstore suddenly says that it can get a 750C in the near future! It really is too bad that the thinkpads have no upgradability From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 08:40:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03001 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 08:40:27 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA11645; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:18:52 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:18:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA11625; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:18:47 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07001; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:17:23 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:19:30 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <22770.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: comm software Status: OR In message Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:23:51 -0500 (EST), "Andrew A. Houghton" writes: > Here's the problem: essentially, characters are getting dropped at > high speed. I've tried this with both my intel and with a direct > connection, and I get the same results -- skewed display as a result > of lost characters. I'm trying to connect to my university, and the > exact same setup works perfectly on my desktop machine -- same > hardware (direct connection), and same software (windows for > workgroups 3.11 w/ Procomm Plus for Windows -- although the problem > also manifests itself with the Windows terminal package, and a number > of DOS-only comm packages). If you're using the default autoexec.bat, rem out fueldos (the DOS doohicky that gives you a battery meter). It's the culprit. One of these days I've gotta remember to report it to IBM... Before you go conclude it's a hardware problem, try it again with a minimal config.sys and autoexec.bat. Another reason I hate DOS and love OS/2. :) -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 08:44:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03856 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 08:44:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA11622; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:18:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:18:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA11615; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:18:33 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA06992; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:17:05 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:19:12 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <22752.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd Status: OR In message Sat, 26 Mar 1994 17:27:28 -0600 (CST), Sean Chou writes: >> Before I went out and bought ED floppies, I tried formatting a >> generic 1.44 HD disk as a 2.88 disk using Norton >> Desktop for Windows 3.0. Much to my surprise the >> disk worked normally in all respects. Since then I > > Both John Kim and I have done this with success. However, John > hasn't ever told us how his disks have survived the test of > time. I lost track of my normal HD disk formatted to 2.88 but > they were fine after a month at least. I have too! :) Soon after I got my TP750 in November '93, I formatted 3 HD disks as 2.88 MB and backed up some zip files on them. The zip files didn't fill the entire disks but they come close, and I can test them fairly easily. They passed the immediate test, the 1 day test, the 1 week test, the 2 week test, the 1 month test, and the 2 month test. Now that you mention it maybe it's time for a 5 month test, or maybe I should just wait for a 6 month test. I should note the disks just sit there in the box (it is a backup after all). I have no idea how they'd react to daily usage. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 08:56:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06889 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 08:56:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA12633; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:32:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:32:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA12610; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:32:39 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA19684; Mon, 28 Mar 94 09:32:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 09:32:26 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403281432.AA19684@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd Status: OR just to repeat my experience. I did not encounter any problems reading bogus 2.88's that had been formatted and written on the same TP. However, I definitely DID have problems trying to transfer such diskettes between machines (I have a 2.88 TEAC drive on my desktop machine). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 09:04:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08971 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:04:16 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA13744; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:45:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:45:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from milkman.cac.psu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA13733; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:45:18 -0500 Received: from wilbur.cac.psu.edu by milkman.cac.psu.edu with SMTP id AA23388 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:45:14 -0500 From: Lyle Long Received: by wilbur.cac.psu.edu id ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:45:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:45:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199403281445.AA25687@wilbur.cac.psu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: high-speed modem problems on TP-500 Status: OR I am having trouble getting a Practical Peripherals 14.4 KB modem working with my TP-500. I have tried removing my autoexec.bat and config.sys files, I have tried MS-DOS and IBM-DOS, I have turned off all power management (I think). I just can't figure out what is wrong. I am using Procomm (which loses lots of characters) and FTP Corp. PPP software. Neither of them work. Any suggestions as to what to try will be appreciated. L. Long lnl@cac.psu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 10:07:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00711 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 10:07:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA18312; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 10:33:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 10:33:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA18305; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 10:33:23 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA29488; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 07:33:20 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) id HAA17470; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 07:33:18 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403281533.HAA17470@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: thinkpad availability To: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 07:33:18 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9403281150.AA18482@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Mar 28, 94 06:50:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > The 750C is about to be obsoleted by the new models using the DX3 chip. > THe timescale is not clear, but it is suspicious that our bookstore > suddenly says that it can get a 750C in the near future! Well, by that standard, the TP750 was obselete the minute they made it, since there were plenty of DX2 66's sitting around when the TP750 was created, yet they only used a 33 MHz chip. I work all the time on a desktop machine that is a 66MHz, but I still think the 33 in the TP750 is pretty fast and more than acceptable for portable use. > It really is too bad that the thinkpads have no upgradability *sigh*--yeah, I wish it could too, but I guess that's life. I don't know of very many CPU-upgradable notebooks. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 28 15:59:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22240 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 15:59:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA10337; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 15:26:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 15:26:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from relay.tek.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA10325; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 15:26:04 -0500 Received: by relay.tek.com id ; Mon, 28 Mar 94 12:02:17 -0800 Received: from tekig7.cse.tek.com by tektronix.TEK.COM (4.1/8.1) id AA03306; Mon, 28 Mar 94 12:02:06 PST Received: from mimaster.PEN.TEK.COM (mimaster.TEK) by tekig7.cse.tek.com (4.1/8.0) id AA06830; Mon, 28 Mar 94 12:02:05 PST Received: by mimaster.PEN.TEK.COM (5.17/6.24) id AA07368; Mon, 28 Mar 94 12:01:52 PST Received: by lacamas.PEN.TEK.COM (4.1/6.24) id AA14735; Mon, 28 Mar 94 12:02:03 PST Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 12:02:03 PST From: alanr@lacamas.pen.tek.com (Alan Rovner) Message-Id: <9403282002.AA14735@lacamas.PEN.TEK.COM> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: New User Introduction - Q about MHz Modem. Status: OR Hello group, this is my first posting here. I'd like to introduce myself and ask for support on a Megahertz modem problem I'm having. My name is Al Rovner, I'm an engineer with Tektronix and I own a Thinkpad 720. Hopefully it's ok to ask questions about non-750 machines. My 720 runs OS/2 2.1 (no service pack), 8MB RAM and a Megahertz xjack 14400 PCMCIA modem. The Megahertz modem runs just fine from initial bootup until the 720 goes into suspend mode. When awakening from suspend mode, I get various error messages about the com2: port. Messages like "The Drive is not Ready" or "This port is in use by another application", etc. My modem software refuses to run at this point. I don't believe this effect to be OS/2 peculiar. It happened under DOS before I installed OS/2. In chatting with a friend at the local IBM office in Portland, he acknowledged there was a problem with Thinkpad 720's and Megahertz xjack modems. I have been able to duplicate this problem by booting from a DOS floppy. The 720 will absolutely refuse to go into suspend mode at all while the modem is installed. Remove the modem (with the power still on) and no problem. You can suspend all you like. My friend said that Megahertz technical support is aware of this. Speaking of which, I have also chatted with Bob Sweet (sp?) >from Megahertz who has been friendly and helpful, but alas we still haven't been able to fix my problem. I wonder if these two problems are related somehow? So there you have it. If any of you can help out please let me know and I'll gladly give any suggestions a try. I like the Megahertz modem, especially the pop out phone jack, it's much sturdier than I thought it would be. I just wish I could get this driver situation running to my satisfaction. Regards, Al Rovner alanr@lacamas.pen.tek.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 19:36:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26616 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 19:36:26 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA29550; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 19:50:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 19:50:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA29539; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 19:50:43 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA15692; Mon, 28 Mar 94 16:50:40 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07720; Mon, 28 Mar 94 16:49:49 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12063; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 16:50:35 +0800 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 16:50:35 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403290050.AA12063@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP750: new PCMCIA disk drivers available Status: OR If you've got a PCMCIA hard disk drive, you might want to check out the file ATADO200.EXE on the IBM BBS -- it's a set of PCMCIA-ATA device drivers and diagnostic utilities for DOS and OS/2. It's been there about a week now. If you don't have a PCMCIA disk, don't bother getting the file. I grabbed it because it was BIG -- I figured it had some additional goodies, and it doesn't. Instead it has the same files duplicated in 4 different subdirectories, for italian, french, german and spanish. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 20:52:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28640 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 20:52:24 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA06741; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:31:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:31:27 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from access3.digex.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA06733; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:31:25 -0500 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA13659 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:31:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:31:04 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Klockner Subject: Re: Comm. problems To: Chris Schumann Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <24032818030782@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Mon, 28 Mar 1994, Chris Schumann wrote: > I also upgraded my BIOS and installed EZPlay yesterday. > How convenient to have the modem enabled right away, and > suspend works correctly, too! > How unacceptably inconvenient for this software to take 60K > of memory below the 640K boundary. I promptly removed > it from my config.sys. At home, I don't care if it > really suspends when the screen turns off and the hard drive > spins down, and at work, I don't enable the modem. > > Anyone else have opinions on EZPlay? (or a suggestion > to make it more firendly?) I've been using EZPlay for a month and it has worked flawlessly. I've been able to load all of the software high and have 589K left, even with Smartdrive loaded low. I'm using IBM DOS 6.1/Windows 3.1 on my 750Cs. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 21:17:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08745 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:17:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA08408; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:55:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:55:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from worldlink.worldlink.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA08395; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:55:37 -0500 Received: by worldlink.worldlink.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-Worldlink) id AA22053; Mon, 28 Mar 94 21:55:28 -0500 Message-Id: <2973991869.0.p00471@psilink.com> In-Reply-To: <9403270503.AA02629@cedrick> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 20:53:27 -0600 To: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com From: "Robert J. Della Penna" Subject: Re: 750 SYS 1.04 BIOS, 1.21 Utilities,Megahertz XJ2144,Suspend,Resume,Hibernate X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.6.2) Status: OR Wes, Thanks for the notice. Sure enought suspend and hibernation work fine with the new utilities. I do have a problem with loading EMM386.EXE in CONFIG.SYS. What parameters do you have set using the 'current' utilities. Thanks, Robert >DATE: Sat, 26 Mar 94 23:03:19 CST >FROM: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com > >Summary of this long post: > > - there's a new utility disk, version 1.21, on the IBM BBS > that's just a few days old. > > - tells how to get the XJ2144 (& presumably other PCMCIA > modems) to work across suspend/resume and hibernate > transitions (for MS-DOS 6.2/Windows 3.1 at least). > >After working a bit with my XJ2144, I found a minor problem with >resuming from suspend. For some reason, whenever the XJ2144 drivers >were installed & I resumed from suspend, my screen would not light up >for entering my ROM password. It would come on after I entered my >password and the DOS or Windows screen reappeared. Really weird. Not >a big deal, but it annoyed me, so I called Megahertz. They were very >helpful and sent a FAX pointing me to the IBM BBS and the new >Utilities disk. I cross referenced their FAX to my archives of this >mailing list, and found nearly the exact same message here (I should >have looked at my archives first!). > >So I called the IBM BBS, and downloaded both Version 1.04 of the BIOS >and Version >>>>> 1.21 <<<<< of the Utilities disk (yes, there's a new >version of the Utilities disk as of just a few days ago. This version >apparently replaces 1.2x. I didn't notice anything in 1.21 that 1.2x >didn't already have. I wonder if 1.2x was a test/experimental release, >therefore, the x?) > >I loaded everything up, tried out EzPlay, and removed all references >to Mezahertz from my CONFIG.SYS, AUTOEXEC.BAT, and SYSTEM.INI -- they >aren't needed any more with Ezplay. I made sure my modem was still >working, then tried the suspend/resume test. Boom! My back light is >still not coming on. After doing a few more test, I found other >problems, such as the PCMCIA not powering up after coming out of >hibernate and system hangs when resuming from a suspend while in >Procomm for Windows (these might have also been there before - I >really didn't get into this level of testing when I hit the back light >problem and got the FAX). > >But I found the trick! I went back into my CONFIG.SYS and deleted all >the lines having anything to do with PCMCIA, rebooted, then loaded the >1.21 Utilities again. It added all the PCMCIA lines back to my >CONFIG.SYS, and you guessed it, now everything works correctly! > >I can suspend/resume and my screen lights up for the password entry. > >The PCMCIA power is turned off on suspend, and turns back on on >resume (there is a short pause that didn't used to be there before >while I guess it reinitializes the cards). > >I can use the modem after a suspend/resume! > >I can even use the modem after a power up from hibernate! > >It's great! > >All I can surmise is that the Utilities install program, PCMINSTW, >must not have moved all the new files across because it saw the >devices already loaded. When I removed the devices, it must have done >the install as a virgin install (any other theories?). > >Summary of what I did (for my 750C running MS DOS 6.2 & Windows 3.1): > >1) Loaded Version 1.04 of the BIOS (SY750104.EXE from the IBM BBS or > SYS750 on CompuServe). > >2) Removed all CONFIG.SYS PCMCIA device entries > >3) Removed all MEGAHERTZ entries from CONFIG.SYS, AUTOEXEC.BAT, & > SYSTEM.INI (these were left over from running the Megahertz > install program when I first got the modem. EzPlay seems to > eliminate the need for any Megahertz software on the system -- > have card, will travel). > >4) Rebooted, then ran PCMINSTW from the Utilities Disk Version 1.21 > (UT750121.EXE from the IBM BBS; not yet on CompuServe). > >Next step -- getting my IBM PCMCIA Ethernet to work. It should be a >lot easier now with EzPlay. I need to use it with both Windows for >Workgroups 3.11 and with TCP/IP. I'll be loading all this up >week-after-next when I return from Microsoft Tech Ed. Any war stories >and mine pit warnings would be appreciated before I start. Anyone >know what new twist the Ezplay puts on the Ethernet PCMCIA? Should I, >or should I not, install what's on the IBM floppy for the card? >Ezplay does see the card, but for the moment shows it as not ready. > >Onward through the fog. > >Wes > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 22:54:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17874 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 22:54:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA14700; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 23:34:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 23:34:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA14693; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 23:34:52 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA22993 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 94 23:30:29 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E188B9; Mon, 28 Mar 94 23:22:35 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Sound/Joystick/Bag From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.341498.700.0CE188B9@channel1.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 22:28:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Re: Sound/Joystick/Bag >> 1) Turtle Beach is advertising a PCMCIA Audio Advantage sound card >> for $99. Anyone know anything about this sound card, or any way >> to give the 750c full Soundblaster compatibility with most games? >My guess is that it uses emulation for SB also. As a matter of fact, >all the portable sound solutions I know of use emulation so far. It's >up to Creative Labs to release a true SoundBlaster PCMCIA card... I think you're right..... >> 2) Is there an adapter for the 750c, that would allow you to plug in >> a regular Joystick? >I know a lot of people have been looking for this, but we've had >no luck so far. I can post to CS to see if they've had any luck. Thanks, that would be nice of you. I can't be absolutely sure but I saw an ad for a cable that plugs into the serial port, and it allows you to plug the joystick into the other end. Unfortunately I can't find the ad! Take care Sean, Joseph From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 29 05:39:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01693 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 29 Mar 1994 05:39:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA13318; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 06:09:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 06:09:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gwis.circ.gwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA13311; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 06:09:38 -0500 Received: (halinatr@localhost) by gwis.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.5) id GAA22630; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 06:11:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 06:01:40 -0500 (EST) From: darren mccabe Subject: Re: Sound/Joystick/Bag To: Joseph Pereira Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <40.341498.700.0CE188B9@channel1.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Reguarding the joystick question: I went out and got ANOTHER Colorado Spectrum Gameport based on the responses here. I did manage to get it to work (make sure you have power allocated to your serial port kiddies...) and have used it with X-Wing. It didn't work with NHL Hockey or Sphere of Destiny. Unfortunatly it is pretty much software driven, and we need to rely on game manufacturers for a "patch" to get it to work. A point on the TP750 sound chip, I installed the latest version of the audio drivers, and had two major problems: 1. Running certian programs, like Norton Change Directory with the emulation program installed, well, as soon as I hit enter it reboots my machine. Tech support had no answers. 2. It really messes up the speed of the sound. I was trying to use Soundblaster emulation in X-Wing, and aside from most of the sound being really messed up, and the speed being at a crawl, when we got to scenes of people speaking it was like some bad Marital Arts movie. The words came seconds after the lips moved. So should I expect a better patch soon? One that dosen't require me to make a special boot disk to use (I had to unload about EVERYTHING to fit it into memory and have enough for most games) I find myself thinking over and over, "Should I switch to OS/2?" (I have 20MB of memory, not that DOS or windows cares...) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Darren Patrick McCabe "Hal" | Mail: Halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu | |-------------------------------|------------------------------------------| | Work: Gnossos Software, Inc | School: The George Washington University | | 1625 K St, NW, Suite 410 | Graduate School of Political Management| | Washington, DC 20006 | PADI Open Water Scuba Instructor #57901 | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | "I want to decide who lives and who dies" - Crow T. Robot, MST3K | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 28 Mar 1994, Joseph Pereira wrote: > Subject: Re: Sound/Joystick/Bag > > > >> 1) Turtle Beach is advertising a PCMCIA Audio Advantage sound card > >> for $99. Anyone know anything about this sound card, or any way > >> to give the 750c full Soundblaster compatibility with most games? > > >My guess is that it uses emulation for SB also. As a matter of fact, > >all the portable sound solutions I know of use emulation so far. It's > >up to Creative Labs to release a true SoundBlaster PCMCIA card... > I think you're right..... > > >> 2) Is there an adapter for the 750c, that would allow you to plug in > >> a regular Joystick? > > >I know a lot of people have been looking for this, but we've had > >no luck so far. I can post to CS to see if they've had any luck. > Thanks, that would be nice of you. I can't be absolutely sure but I saw > an ad for a cable that plugs into the serial port, and it allows you to > plug the joystick into the other end. Unfortunately I can't find the ad! > > Take care Sean, > Joseph From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 29 17:32:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14394 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 29 Mar 1994 17:31:53 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA10601; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 18:03:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 18:03:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from access3.digex.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA10591; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 18:02:57 -0500 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA03101 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU); Tue, 29 Mar 1994 18:02:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 18:02:51 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Klockner Subject: EZPlay and memory To: Rick Andrew Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <46828.wpa@email.psu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, Rick Andrew wrote: > >>------------------------------ > >> From: Wayne Klockner > >> Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:31:04 -0500 (EST) > >> To: Chris Schumann > >> Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > >> Subject: Re: Comm. problems > > >> I've been using EZPlay for a month and it has worked flawlessly. > >> I've been able to load all of the software high and have 589K left, > >> even with Smartdrive loaded low. I'm using IBM DOS 6.1/Windows 3.1 on > >> my 750Cs. > > > > Wayne, would it be possible to get a copy of your autoexec and config > files? It would be wonderful to be able to have 589K RAM available! To > date I have had no such luck. If you would be willing, you could either > send the files to me at my email address or post them to the list (or both). > Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Rick: Here are my config.sys and autoexec.bat files. I have a multiple boot configuration; "WORK" is for Windows apps and communications and leaves me 589K RAM free, and "DOSGMS" is for DOS-based games (Doom!) and leaves me 615K RAM free. First, my config.sys: [MENU] menuitem=DOSGMS menuitem=WORK menucolor=7,1 menudefault=WORK,10 [COMMON] FILES=50 DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DOS=HIGH,umb [DOSGMS] DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS DEVICEHIGH=C:\IBMVESA\VESA.EXE DEVICEHIGH=C:\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD\TPAUDDD.SYS DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE BUFFERS=40 STACKS=9,256 [WORK] DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS FRAME=D000 X=C000-CFFF DEVICEhigh=C:\IBMVESA\VESA.EXE DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDSS01.SYS /S0=2 DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDOSCS.SYS DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\DICRMU01.SYS /MA=C000-CFFF DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\$ICPMDOS.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.SYS C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.INI REM DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\SRAMDRV2.SYS BUFFERS=20 STACKS=9,256 and my autoexec.bat: @echo off IF "%CONFIG%" == "DOSGMS" LH C:\DOS\MOUSE.COM SET DSPPATH=C:\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\BATCH;C:\DOS;C:\PKWARE;C:\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD;C:\THINKPAD PROMPT $P$G SET READIBM=C:\READIBM\READIBM.PRO SET TEMP=C:\TEMP SET TMP=C:\TEMP IF "%CONFIG%" == "WORK" LH C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE 1024 512 IF "%CONFIG%" == "DOSGMS" LH C:\IBMAUDIO\VDD\SVAUDIO.EXE The only peripheral I use is a USR WorldPort 14.4 PCMCIA fax/modem. I hope this helps you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 29 18:48:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13788 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 29 Mar 1994 18:48:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA15367; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 19:27:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 19:27:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from milkman.cac.psu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA15360; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 19:27:11 -0500 Received: from wilbur.cac.psu.edu by milkman.cac.psu.edu with SMTP id AA12386 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 29 Mar 1994 19:27:07 -0500 From: Lyle Long Received: by wilbur.cac.psu.edu id ; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 19:27:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 19:27:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199403300027.AA09375@wilbur.cac.psu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: FAQ and IBM BBS Status: OR could someone please send me an FAQ and tell me how to access the IBM BBS or ftp site ? thanks. Lyle Long Penn State lnl@cac.psu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 00:39:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15273 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:39:43 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07930; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07923; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:07 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14140; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:12:41 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:14:48 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <80089.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: comm software Status: OR In message Mon, 28 Mar 1994 12:33:51 -0500 (EST), "Andrew A. Houghton" writes: > well, I tried it without FUELDOS, and that didn't fix the problem. > > I'm heavily leaning toward the difference between the 16450/16550 as > the culprit.. I had forgotten that my desktop machine has 16550's, > and the TP750 has a 16450. Also, since the Intel only emulates a > 16450, and the symptoms are the same, that could be the problem. I'll > try connecting with the Intel at a lower speed and see if that fixes > it. Are you doing this under Windows or DOS? The serial ports should support 14.4kbps V.42bis connections without any problems under DOS if you use get rid of FuelDOS (and any other 'bad' TSRs). Lots of people have verified this. 16550 doesn't really matter for DOS. If you're having problems under DOS at those speeds, get the machine replaced. > If it does, I guess it's time to start saving up for an AT&T modem.. > *sigh* shouldn't have blown all my money on the tp, I guess.. :) The AT&T, new MegaHertz, and Practical Peripherals modems all emulate a 16550. Does anyone have any others to add to this list? -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 00:40:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15365 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:40:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07941; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:30 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07934; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:26 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14146; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:12:56 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:15:04 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <80104.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: SCHUMANN@macc.wisc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Comm. problems Status: OR In message Mon, 28 Mar 94 18:03 CDT, Chris Schumann writes: > I also upgraded my BIOS and installed EZPlay yesterday. > How convenient to have the modem enabled right away, and > suspend works correctly, too! > How unacceptably inconvenient for this software to take 60K > of memory below the 640K boundary. I promptly removed > it from my config.sys. At home, I don't care if it > really suspends when the screen turns off and the hard drive > spins down, and at work, I don't enable the modem. > > Anyone else have opinions on EZPlay? (or a suggestion > to make it more firendly?) Well, at the risk of advocating, you could run OS/2 and load EZPlay without it taking 60k of the lower 640k. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 00:41:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15533 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:41:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07968; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07959; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:39 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14155; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:13:15 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:15:23 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <80124.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd Status: OR In message Mon, 28 Mar 94 09:32:26 -0500, dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) writes: > just to repeat my experience. I did not encounter any problems reading > bogus 2.88's that had been formatted and written on the same TP. However, > I definitely DID have problems trying to transfer such diskettes between > machines (I have a 2.88 TEAC drive on my desktop machine). On a related note, has anybody else had problems reading 1.44 MB diskettes that work just fine with desktop 1.44 MB drives? -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 00:41:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15626 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:41:26 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07949; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07933; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:25 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14149; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:13:01 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:15:11 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <80112.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: joseph.pereira@channel1.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Sound/Joystick/Bag Status: OR In message Mon, 28 Mar 94 22:28:00 -0500, joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) writes: >>> 1) Turtle Beach is advertising a PCMCIA Audio Advantage sound card >>> for $99. Anyone know anything about this sound card, or any >>> way to give the 750c full Soundblaster compatibility with most >>> games? >>My guess is that it uses emulation for SB also. As a matter of fact, >> all the portable sound solutions I know of use emulation so far. It's >> up to Creative Labs to release a true SoundBlaster PCMCIA card... > I think you're right..... While I was in Korea I ran across an unbelievable number of SoundBlaster copycats. Apparently the chipset is very cheap and the hardware is very simple. The smallest I saw was a 1/3 height 8-bit card, barely larger than a PCMCIA card. Of course the sound quality left much to be desired. So it *should* be possible to make a hardware SB in PCMCIA format. I think the hangup is that the Yamaha chipset isn't the right size/voltage/whatever, and Yamaha isn't making any smaller ones. So everyone is making their own chipset and relying on software to do the emulation. Of course the SB is so old it's high time we got a new standard... -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 00:41:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15654 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:41:35 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07921; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07912; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:13:59 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14137; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:12:33 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:14:41 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <80082.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: thinkpad availability Status: OR In message Mon, 28 Mar 1994 07:33:18 -0800 (PST), Randal Whittle writes: >> The 750C is about to be obsoleted by the new models using the DX3 chip. >> THe timescale is not clear, but it is suspicious that our bookstore >> suddenly says that it can get a 750C in the near future! > > Well, by that standard, the TP750 was obselete the minute they made > it, since there were plenty of DX2 66's sitting around when the TP750 was > created, yet they only used a 33 MHz chip. The 750 mono/C/Cs uses a 486SL, which only comes in 25 and 33 MHx flavors. One of the reasons I chose it over the Toshiba notebooks was because it had the SL, which translated into a 5 hour battery life for the mono model. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 00:44:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16163 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:44:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA08046; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:15:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:15:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA08038; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:15:17 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14167; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:13:53 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:16:00 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <80161.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Another TP750-OS/2 bug? Status: OR Here's another one I just ran across. If you want to try it, make sure you haven't gone into suspend so you can ctrl-alt-del safely if you can't see the screen. OS/2 on a TP750 running in SVGA mode (640x480x256 colors). Open the DOS box settings window. Go down to Video_Mode_Restriction. It defaults to None. Change it to CGA. Close the settings notebook to save the changes. Fire up a DOS box using that object. My results have included: A blank screen (all black), an enlarged strip of the desktop repeated over and over, and a slightly scrambled screen where parts of dialog boxes and windows remain behind after they're closed. In all cases, shutdown either doesn't work or is inaccessible, which is why you need ctrl-alt-del. Can anyone else repeat this? -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 03:00:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07596 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:00:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA16958; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:26:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:26:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA16951; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:26:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id AAA18194; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:27:28 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:27:28 -0800 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199403300827.AAA18194@mail.netcom.com> To: powers@aurfs1.aur.alcatel.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Status: OR Try IBM Direct I got a machine pretty quickly. Call them at one of their 800 numbers. I dealt with Tiffany Bogs and couldn't be any happier ( especially since I got my 750C this morning ). Thier prices are DAMN good too. I got my 340 Meg hard drive 750 for $5300. Martin smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 03:13:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08363 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:13:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA18236; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:47:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:47:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc7.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA18217; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:47:03 -0500 From: Message-Id: <9403300846.AA10336@husc7.harvard.edu> Subject: winsock & the darn numeric keypad (embedded) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:46:59 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Hi all! Say...I've just installed winsock on my TP. However, every time I open another window, the dang numlock key is enabled. Anyone else have this problem? Thanks. P.S. Keith, and all you other Unix-studs...okay...I figure NetBSD is the way to go (sorry linux :( )... But it's _net_BSD and not 386 or free BSD, right? I find it difficult to install BSD. I'm gonna hafta repartition and hope that everything works.... Anyone have any advice for BSD? What about SCO Unix? Hmmmm. As long as I can run X/windows... :) -- Derek From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 03:19:44 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08764 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:19:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id EAA19144; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 04:01:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 04:01:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id EAA19128; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 04:00:59 -0500 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id BAA24710; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:01:58 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:01:58 -0800 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199403300901.BAA24710@mail.netcom.com> To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: winsock & the darn numeric keypad (embedded) Status: OR SCO Unix will allow you to run X-Windows and you can Boot-manager to configure it. Martin Smith msmith@netcom.com A very happy man who got his new 750C 340 Meg 20 Ram today Yiiiiiiipppppeee :wq From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 13:59:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08747 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 13:59:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA07127; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:16:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:15:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nic.hookup.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA07118; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:15:53 -0500 Received: from vetter.hookup.net (vetter.hookup.net [198.133.162.55]) by nic.hookup.net (8.6.8/1.138) with SMTP id OAA20552; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:15:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:15:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199403301915.OAA20552@nic.hookup.net> X-Sender: vetter@hookup.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: vetter@hookup.net (Tim Vetter) Subject: NextStep, mouse trails, 3rd party HD's. X-Mailer: Status: OR 1. Anyone hear of the NextStep O/S being successfully run on a TP750? 2. Mono screen Windows 3.1 users: Any of you find the Windows mouse pointers/cursors difficult to spot under hostile lighting conditions? On previous laptops I have been able to select the "Mouse Trails" option in the Control Panel "Mouse" applet to make the pointer more visible, but on the 750 the corresponding checkbox is greyed out. I assume this is a limitation of IBM's video driver; has anyone else found otherwise? 3. Can someone point me at some third-party sources for TP-compatible hard-drives (internal)? I am based out of Europe these days where hardware pickings are a little slim. Directly E-mailed responses are OK; if there's general interest in these topics, mail me and I'll compile and post summaries. Might I suggest this sort of approach would ease the group's message overload a little, as opposed to a having a mass posting for every single O/S- and configuration-related issue. Thanks all, Tim -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Vetter vetter@hookup.net 73 Warren Road voice 519-579-9904 Kitchener, Ontario fax 519-571-9520 N2M 4T6 Canada -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 30 14:23:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20256 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:23:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA00730; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:49:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:49:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA00677; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:47:16 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA26589 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 11:46:05 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403301746.AA26589@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 11:46:04 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <80124.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Mar 29, 94 10:15:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > On a related note, has anybody else had problems reading 1.44 MB diskettes > that work just fine with desktop 1.44 MB drives? No, but I did have problems reading 1.44 mb disks that I formatted on my TP when I tried to read them in a desktop. If I tried to read it with my TP again, it would work again... From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 30 14:59:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08284 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:59:20 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA00756; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:49:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:49:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA00743; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:49:49 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA27911 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 11:49:29 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403301749.AA27911@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Sound/Joystick/Bag To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 11:49:28 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <80112.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Mar 29, 94 10:14:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > So it *should* be possible to make a hardware SB in PCMCIA format. I think > the hangup is that the Yamaha chipset isn't the right size/voltage/whatever, I think it's only a matter of time before Creative Labs gets a clue and jump on the portable bandwagon. I have no doubts that they can manufacture such a device. The problem I see is the way we address the audio cards. Since PCMCIA cards don't really have IRQ's per se, it might interfere with the way game programmers like to do sloppy programming and/or undocumented calls. > Of course the SB is so old it's high time we got a new standard... Spoken like a true revolutionist! ;) I agree 100%. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 16:25:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19275 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:25:34 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA20691; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:51:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:51:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from access3.digex.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA20678; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:51:14 -0500 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA27240 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:51:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:51:06 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Klockner Subject: Re: comm software To: John Kim Cc: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <80089.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, John Kim wrote: > The AT&T, new MegaHertz, and Practical Peripherals modems all emulate a > 16550. Does anyone have any others to add to this list? The U.S. Robotics WorldPort 14.4 PCMCIA fax/modem. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 18:54:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20633 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 18:54:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA01325; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:19:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:19:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hsdndev.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA01318; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:19:14 -0500 From: Received: from warren.med.harvard.edu by jenner.med.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22441; Wed, 30 Mar 94 19:16:53 -0500 Received: from ccMail by warren.med.harvard.edu id AA765083936 Wed, 30 Mar 94 19:18:56 EST Date: Wed, 30 Mar 94 19:18:56 EST Message-Id: <9402307650.AA765083936@warren.med.harvard.edu> To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Another TP750-OS/2 bug? Status: OR John, I am not surprised. I know of several problems with the SVGA video drivers in OS/2. I also know effective workarounds for several. It would be helpful if the 750FAQ was released (before it is obsoleted by bios and driver upgrades, we hope) or just release the list of video driver oddities and work arounds. For example: 1. In OS/2, DOS box applications that scroll their text screens directly dont always refresh correctly. Examples include Norton Commander and FastLinx. Solution: they work find in full screen (ALT/Home) and are repaired by cycling thru full/screen. 2. In OS/2 running OS/2 for windows (users), if you leave the full screen windows desktop for the OS/2 desktop, upon returning to WIN/OS2's desktop, your screen is frequently a mixture of desktops and sometimes your system font is gone (menu bars etc are not visible). Solution: I wrote a windows program that refreshes the screen and reloads the font. Apparently, no one else has this problem. 3. In IBM DOS 6, after you install OS/2 for windows, you may not be able to run any dos boxes in DOS/Win 3.1 becaused of an invalid version number. It's coming >from the VIDEO DRIVER. You can edit the 386Enh section as I've previously listed here. (It's a few lines with comments). IBM confirmed this problem. All in all, the video driver is smart and effective. These problems are just growing pains and haven't kept me >from doing any work, except for the time they've killed trying to figure out what to do about them. _Joe (jbormel@warren.med.harvard.edu) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 20:44:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29714 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 20:44:07 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA10109; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 21:17:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 21:17:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA10101; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 21:17:47 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA19148 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 20:17:22 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403310217.AA19148@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: FAQ released To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 20:17:22 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR The TP750 FAQ has been released. I sent it in six parts to the mailing list. It's formatted to 70 characters wide and each part is no longer than 200 lines. It will also be available for anonymous FTP at assistant.beckman.uiuc.edu in the wasserman/thinkpad directory (that may be under pub, I'm not sure). Thanks to Stanley Wasserman for the FTP site. The archives will also be made available soon. How do you guys want it? Just the way it is all saved and messy or would you guys like some formatting to it? I'm thinking of whipping up a program that could remove some redundant headers as well as clean it up a bit...does anyone know of a program to do this already? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 21:29:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17568 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 21:29:51 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA13073; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 22:03:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 22:03:23 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA13066; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 22:03:20 -0500 Received: from FirstPerson.COM (rampart.EBay.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA05131; Wed, 30 Mar 94 19:03:06 PST Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by FirstPerson.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20206; Wed, 30 Mar 94 19:02:45 PST Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03897; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:02:01 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA28716; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:03:56 +0800 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:03:56 +0800 From: Chuck.McManis@firstperson.com (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9403310303.AA28716@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd Status: OR On the subject of 2.88 vs 1.44 floppies and using 1.44's as 2.88s. Ever since someone figured out you could 'punch' the hole on the edge of a 5.25" floppy on the Apple II to get "double sided" for free the debate has raged on as to why one would buy expensive floppies when the 'regular' ones could be made to work. And the answer is of course because the data on the floppy is worth it. Several myths have be propogated about floppies, none of which are true (as verified by engineers withing nearly every major floppy disk maker) these are: o All floppies use the same base material, only the packaging an labelling are different. o Single Density floppies can be used as double density floppies if you don't compress the data. o Both sides of a floppy are the same, whether they are single sided or double sided. (generally everything is double sided today) o You can make a double density floppy drive out of a single densitry drive by doubling the write clock. The reality is that the floppy market is pretty cutthroat and the prices reflect that. If you 'cheat' by convincing your system to use a disk that isn't certified for the data density you are using then don't cry when you lose that data. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 31 05:03:44 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29695 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 31 Mar 1994 05:03:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA16542; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 05:38:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 05:38:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nic.hookup.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA16534; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 05:38:29 -0500 Received: from vetter.hookup.net (vetter.hookup.net [198.133.162.55]) by nic.hookup.net (8.6.8/1.138) with SMTP id FAA05553; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 05:38:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 05:38:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199403311038.FAA05553@nic.hookup.net> X-Sender: vetter@hookup.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: vetter@hookup.net (Tim Vetter) Subject: NextStep, mouse trails, 3rd party HD's X-Mailer: Status: OR 1. Anyone hear of the NextStep O/S being successfully run on a TP750? 2. Mono screen Windows 3.1 users: Any of you find the Windows mouse pointers/cursors difficult to spot under hostile lighting conditions? On previous laptops I have been able to select the "Mouse Trails" option in the Control Panel "Mouse" applet to make the pointer more visible, but on the 750 the corresponding checkbox is greyed out. I assume this is a limitation of IBM's video driver; has anyone else found otherwise? 3. Can someone point me at some third-party sources for TP-compatible hard-drives (internal)? I am based out of Europe these days where hardware pickings are a little slim. Directly E-mailed responses are OK; if there's general interest in these topics, mail me and I'll compile and post summaries. Might I suggest this sort of approach would ease the group's message overload a little, as opposed to a having a mass posting for every single O/S- and configuration-related issue. Thanks all, Tim -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Vetter vetter@hookup.net 73 Warren Road voice 519-579-9904 Kitchener, Ontario fax 519-571-9520 N2M 4T6 Canada -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 31 14:05:23 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25896 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:05:20 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA25344; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:30:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:30:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc8.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA25331; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:30:47 -0500 From: Message-Id: <9403311930.AA26280@husc8.harvard.edu> Subject: heeeeeelp!!!! bsd won't install!!! (how do i install patches?) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:30:35 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Help! I formatted my HD for NetBSD. I have the 2 install + 1 boot floppies >from the image site at ftp.iastate.edu. I also have Keith Moore's patches for NetBSD. Question: do I install the pathces to the kernel on the floppy I just made from the images I download? My system will not boot off the floppies. But, then...if I hafta install off the floppies, then I cannot patch them from DOS (General failure error reading drive A...blah blah blah). This is frustrating...I have the patches on my DOS hard drive...but I have no way to patch the floppy BSD kernel since I can't read the disk!!!! Arrrrrgh!!!!! If anyone has a solution for this (read: patched kernel boot disk, if possible), please email me asap! Thanks all! -- Derek P.S. Keith, are you out there :-)? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 31 15:03:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24152 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 31 Mar 1994 15:03:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA04677; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 15:39:13 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 15:39:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc8.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA04670; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 15:39:11 -0500 From: Message-Id: <9403312039.AA28670@husc8.harvard.edu> Subject: netbsd... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 15:39:07 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR one other thing...is there a way to mount a bsd floppy disk from dos? If so...this could potentially alleviate my problem... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 31 15:27:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05157 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 31 Mar 1994 15:27:26 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA06766; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:03:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:03:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc8.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA06749; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:03:17 -0500 From: Message-Id: <9403312103.AA29566@husc8.harvard.edu> Subject: one MORE thing ;-) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:03:07 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR oh...right...sorry one more thing... if this willl help anyone: i get: Error: c(0), h(0), s(18) at startup...:( over and over and over again From jokim@CHS.CUSD.CLAREMONT.EDU Mon Mar 7 03:30:13 1994 Received: from chs.claremont.edu (CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16138 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 03:30:10 -0600 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14011; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 01:29:08 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 01:31:11 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@CHS.CUSD.CLAREMONT.EDU Reply-To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.CLAREMONT.EDU Message-Id: <5471.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Fw: Re: ThinkPad 750C problems Status: OR Never mind. I guess it was a post where I made the joke. Here it is. You keep a copy just in case my house catches on fire or something. :) I wish you'd quoted more of what I posted. I really like how computers record when you do these things right down to the last second. ------------------------------ From: Sean Chou Sat, 27 Nov 1993 21:00:24 -0600 To: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 750C problems In comp.sys.laptops you write: >Maybe we 750 owners should start a mailing list or something to keep each >other updated on things like this.... :) Actually, this isn't realy a bad idea since we all have a lot of money invested in these machines and seeing as they are the first of a breed, we can probably all expect quite a few problems in the future. I'd even be willing to handle it as long as it doesn't get too ridiculous (which it shouldn't since I've only seen a handful of people who have them). I guess I should start by: 1) seeing if these messages are getting through, and 2) posting a message to all TP750/C users out there.... -- Sean Chou University of Illinois - Champaign Email: seanchou@uiuc.edu -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From jokim@CHS.CUSD.CLAREMONT.EDU Mon Mar 7 03:30:23 1994 Received: from chs.claremont.edu (CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16144 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Mar 1994 03:30:19 -0600 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14014; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 01:29:17 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 01:31:16 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@CHS.CUSD.CLAREMONT.EDU Reply-To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.CLAREMONT.EDU Message-Id: <5477.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Fw: Hello! Status: OR And our first message, complete with you botching my name. :) (That's really understandable considering how my username tends to be botched -- there are just too many jkim's so sysops start adding more letters) ------------------------------ From: Sean Chou Sun, 5 Dec 1993 00:08:07 -0600 (CST) To: Robert Dewar , Joe Kim Subject: Hello! Hello guys! This is our pseudo user's group mailing list. I'm not sure whether or not when you guys respond, if the mail will just got to me or to all of us. Let me know! Anyway, the first thing that would be nice to check out is battery consumption time. If we leave our TPs on suspend, how much battery will be consumed. I'd appreciate if you guys could leave it on for given times and check the fuel guage at that time (say one check for 10 hours -- overnight). I'll leave mine on for ten hours tonight with nothing loaded (I don't know if that will make a difference) except for a CPU guage (CPU and Drive) and the Fuel guage. Also, if you know any other users, please let me know their email addresses if they wouldn't mind being put on this list. The people on here so far are: Joe Kim and Robert Dewar. Please let me know if you receive this message. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes"