From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 1 01:58:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA239099498; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 01:58:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28048; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 01:56:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 1 Mar 1997 01:52:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27590; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 01:52:50 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27580; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 01:52:44 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IFYSZE2JYO99F4MG@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 23:52:39 MST Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 23:05:10 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: RE: 28.8 & MIDI In-Reply-To: "My message dated Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:04:06 -0700 (MST)" <01IFWSM2EBSM99FJBJ@Opus1.COM> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IFYUQ56HAC99F4MG@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <01BC241A.CABF1000@BRIDGE145.castle.net> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > I happen to have 48MB of RAM on my 760ED and have had absolutely > > no luck getting it to work. > Try something like this - [...] Well, after looking around and some reading reviews I just tried the Net Toob software (a video player that also does MIDI and lots of other stuff, http://duplexx.com/dl_nt.html) and it plays without all the display problems I mentioned previously. They claim it's relatively efficient and that does seem to be the case - nothing strange at all - it just works. It costs US$19.95 to register or it won't play some (unspeficied) types of MPEG-1 files after two weeks of use. I also managed to stumble back on to one of the web sites that sends MIDI (there must be more than a few but there are so many to go through) for testing while the modem is running - it's www.ozemail.com.au/~elfa which loads pretty fast even here in the USA. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 1 10:02:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA088848572; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:02:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14594; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:01:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 1 Mar 1997 09:58:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14002; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 09:58:11 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13988; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 09:58:04 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-12.usc.edu [128.125.223.156]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id GAA07202; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 06:57:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970301060717.01659388@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 06:58:53 -0800 To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Eye strain with 1024 * 768? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:04 AM 2/28/97 HST, David Ross wrote: >> Resolution is not inversly proportional to font size! Since you can scale >> your screen fonts to any size in Win95, the more pixels to form those >> characters, the better. > >This is not always true. For example, the Terminal font in >HyperTerminal only gives you a choice of 8 point and 9 point. HyperTerminal is a piece of crap. Don't base resolution decisions of font size on garbage software that Microsoft threw in for free with Windows. Almost any *real* software package will allow you to change fonts and sizes you use and/or magnification levels. I'm still using an old 1.0 version of Procomm Plus for Windows that allows for this. >Also, DOS apps aren't rescalable (without 'stretching', which looks >dreadful, at least on my 800x600 Micron). If you run DOS apps in a window, then you can do a lot to manipulate their size. It might be when you purchase the Plus! pack, but there are fonts just for DOS windows that allow for more size & selection variety for many window sizes. Hence, just stay in Windows rather than going DOS full-screen and playing the "stretchy game" and you can use that higher-res screen in the manner in which it was designed for. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 1 12:43:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA115038224; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 12:43:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00181; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 12:41:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 1 Mar 1997 12:35:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29451; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 12:35:22 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29407; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 12:35:11 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IFZGOBQE4W99F8G6@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:35:06 MST Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 10:22:14 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: RE: 28.8 & MIDI In-Reply-To: "My message dated Fri, 28 Feb 1997 23:05:10 -0700 (MST)" <01IFYUQ56HAC99F4MG@Opus1.COM> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IFZH5M8W7Q99F8G6@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <01BC241A.CABF1000@BRIDGE145.castle.net> <01IFWSM2EBSM99FJBJ@Opus1.COM> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Well, after looking around and some reading reviews I just > tried the Net Toob software (a video player that also does > MIDI and lots of other stuff, http://duplexx.com/dl_nt.html) And after spending some time with this -- while the MIDI part works great for some reason Netscape now hangs sometimes, even on non-MIDI sites, even after reseting by powering off and then never going near MIDI, after going through some small (<10) number of pages. So - take care here - I'm now restoring from a backup (even though Net Toob has an uninstall icon I've been burned in the past by others).. The _only_ thing that changed was the addition of Net Toob and Netscape (3.01) was working ok before that. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 2 00:36:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA257260986; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:36:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01483; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:35:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:31:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01222; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:30:58 -0500 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk (mail-e.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01202; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:30:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199703020530.AAA01202@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-8.ucl.ac.uk by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sun, 2 Mar 1997 04:38:03 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: TP750Cs vs. Windows 95 -- Success!!! Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 05:30:45 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, I finally managed to get Windows 95 installed on my TP750Cs -- with all of the necessary drivers -- in dual boot configuration -- so I can alternatively boot either Windows 3.1, Windows 95, or boot Windows 3.1 to load LINUX from the command line prompt. Strangely, the PCMCIA indicator LED does not light when using the MS Win95 PCIC (PCMCIA slot controller) driver. The drivers which came with Win95 seem to work just fine for the Western Digital WD90C24 video, PCMCIA controller, Adaptec SlimSCSI, and 3C589B cards. The Thinkpad audio disk failed to insert a reference to the Thinkpad Audio Driver into Win95's .INI files -- but all of the essential files were in the right place -- a manual editing of the appropriate .INI file set everything up correctly. But, I couldn't find an MCI device control driver for audio volume which could be used by Win95 applications -- so I have to rely on IBM's volume control applet (and the Fn-F5/Fn-F6 keys) for vol control. I also had to manually edit the path to include WIN95, WIN95/SYSTEM, WIN31, WIN31/SYSTEM -- and manually combine the two PROGMAN.INI in preparation for running grpconv /s to automatically build the START menu items for all of the old WIN31 applications. Everything seems to work OK now. I would strongly recommend against installing the Win95 intended for installation on a new machine for use with the TP750Cs. The Win95 Upgrade CDROM is much more flexible, includes an option to delete Win95 entirely and restore the original DOS/Win3.1 system configuration, and provides for dual boot options. The MS Win95 Resource Kit Book/CDROM was also extremely helpful. Cheers, A J Annala, University College London >>I didn't see any 32 bit Windows 95 compliant drivers for TP750 >>video on the IBM website. What are other people doing for Win95 >>video support (particularly 1024x768 256 color external monitor >>support) for the TP750? >> >>Also, it is not clear to me whether the TP750 audio support is >>16 bit or 32 bit. Does anyone have 32 bit Win95 audio drivers >>for the TP750? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 2 00:54:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA260462044; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:54:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02694; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:52:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:50:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02414; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:49:58 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02404; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:49:52 -0500 Received: by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA15725; Sat, 1 Mar 97 19:49:24 HST From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <9703020549.AA15725@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Eye strain with 1024 * 768? To: rwhittle@usa.net (Randy Whittle) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 97 19:49:24 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970301060717.01659388@scf.usc.edu>; from "Randy Whittle" at Mar 1, 97 6:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Almost any *real* software package will allow you to change fonts and sizes Of course, one can include this in the definition of 'real software package' and make the statement tautological. If some apps built into Win95 don't work well on an XVGA screen then of course we can spend more for other packages, but potential buyers should be aware of the problem. (Incidentally, I *like* hyperterminal.) > If you run DOS apps in a window, then you can do a lot to manipulate their > size. It might be when you purchase the Plus! pack, but there are fonts > just for DOS windows that allow for more size & selection variety for many > window sizes. Only for those DOS apps that are CRT-based. I have several which I use regularly, but not on my 800x600 machine, because they are *not* CRT-based, and even with Plus! I can't make fonts big enough to be usable. Also, many games (especially kids games) won't use the higher resolution, and look bad when stretched. (One of my TP701's main uses is as a pacifier for my 2-year-old when we fly; anyone who flies on the same plane with us benefits from this:-) Again, my arguments won't apply to all users, but are certainly something anyone worried about eye strain should know about. (Ditto for your point about using larger fonts.) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 2 11:26:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA063490004; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 11:26:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21775; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 11:25:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Mar 1997 11:22:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21249; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 11:22:45 -0500 Received: from mailgate22 (mailgate22-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.54]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21227; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 11:22:39 -0500 Received: by mailgate22 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA03010; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 08:22:07 -0800 Message-Id: <199703021622.IAA03010@mailgate22> Received: from unknown(206.133.206.177) by mailfep2-hme1 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_10.1.1.6/Q_25382_1_3319a92b; Sun Mar 2 08:22:03 1997 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brett Pantalone" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 11:22:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Strange files in root directory Reply-To: pantalone@sprintmail.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My 755CE contains three hidden files in the root directory: Ea data. sf Syslevel.tp Wp root. sf I believe that these files were shipped with the original installation. What are they for, and can they be safely deleted? The first file is over 6 megabytes, and I would like to recover the space. -- Brett Pantalone pantalone@sprintmail.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 2 12:05:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA070442325; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:05:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25097; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:04:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:02:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24839; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:02:21 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24829; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:02:17 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IG0TXBRDTC99GD29@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 10:02:12 MST Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 09:55:32 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Strange files in root directory In-Reply-To: "Message dated Sun, 02 Mar 1997 11:22:00 -0500" <199703021622.IAA03010@mailgate22> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IG0UB7PMTO99GD29@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > My 755CE contains three hidden files in the root directory: > Ea data. sf > Syslevel.tp > Wp root. sf I don't know what the first and last do but my 755CE runs fine without them - might be part of the demo software. I do recall cleaning all that out was some work.. On mine syslevel.tp is not hidden, it's dated 28-Sep-94 12:19PM and contains two lines - KWAOAUS KXAOAUS I don't know what this does but it's small enough that I never tried to find out what happens without it. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 2 12:12:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA071652775; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:12:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26043; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:11:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:10:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25837; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:10:24 -0500 Received: from huset.fm.unit.no (huset.fm.unit.no [129.241.211.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25807; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:10:18 -0500 Received: (qmail 17796 invoked from network); 2 Mar 1997 17:10:14 -0000 Received: from far.fm.unit.no (@129.241.211.211) by huset.fm.unit.no with SMTP; 2 Mar 1997 17:10:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 821 invoked by uid 30266); 2 Mar 1997 17:10:14 -0000 From: "Kristian Gj|steen" Message-Id: <9703021810.ZM819@stud.math.ntnu.no> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 18:10:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: billy@MIX.COM "Re: Strange files in root directory" (Mar 2, 9:55am) References: <01IG0UB7PMTO99GD29@Opus1.COM> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 15feb95) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Strange files in root directory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If you are *not* running OS/2, you can probably delete "Ea data. sf" and "Wp root. sf". If you are running OS/2, you do not want to delete them. On Mar 2, 9:55am, billy@MIX.COM wrote: > Subject: Re: Strange files in root directory > > My 755CE contains three hidden files in the root directory: > > > Ea data. sf > > Syslevel.tp > > Wp root. sf > > I don't know what the first and last do but my 755CE runs fine > without them - might be part of the demo software. I do recall > cleaning all that out was some work.. On mine syslevel.tp is > not hidden, it's dated 28-Sep-94 12:19PM and contains two lines - > > KWAOAUS > KXAOAUS > > I don't know what this does but it's small enough that I never > tried to find out what happens without it. > > Billy Y.. > >-- End of excerpt from billy@MIX.COM -- Kristian Gjøsteen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 2 12:19:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA073393155; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:19:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26945; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:17:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:15:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26547; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:15:23 -0500 Received: from sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (cu18397@sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.136]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26505; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:15:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (adw11@localhost) by sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA14222; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:15:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:15:08 -0500 (EST) From: Arthur D Woo Sender: adw11@columbia.edu To: billy@MIX.COM Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Strange files in root directory In-Reply-To: <01IG0UB7PMTO99GD29@Opus1.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The first and the last files are actually part of OS/2 - so if you aren't using that OS, its safe to delete them. ---Arthur On Sun, 2 Mar 1997 billy@MIX.COM wrote: > > My 755CE contains three hidden files in the root directory: > > > Ea data. sf > > Syslevel.tp > > Wp root. sf > > I don't know what the first and last do but my 755CE runs fine > without them - might be part of the demo software. I do recall > cleaning all that out was some work.. On mine syslevel.tp is > not hidden, it's dated 28-Sep-94 12:19PM and contains two lines - > > KWAOAUS > KXAOAUS > > I don't know what this does but it's small enough that I never > tried to find out what happens without it. > > Billy Y.. > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 2 13:44:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA087178276; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 13:44:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03997; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 13:42:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Mar 1997 13:36:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03498; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 13:36:02 -0500 Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk (mercury.ukc.ac.uk [129.12.21.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03487; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 13:35:58 -0500 Received: from stork.ukc.ac.uk by mercury.ukc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sun, 2 Mar 1997 18:35:25 +0000 Received: from slip1d81.ukc.ac.uk by stork.ukc.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/UKC-2.14) id SAA02765; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 18:35:23 GMT Message-Id: <3319C940.328B@ukc.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 18:38:56 +0000 From: Angus Reply-To: afh1@ukc.ac.uk Organization: Computing Service X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: EZFlyer with TP755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I'm considering buying an Syquest EZFlyer (260MB) drive to use with my TP755. Obviously, it's the parallel port version I'm getting. What I need to know is, has anyone had any problems using these drives with a thinkpad (my machine runs Win95 and Linux) - and if so, could it be solved? Many thanks, Angus Hewlett From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 2 23:57:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA198315052; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:57:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25176; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:55:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:51:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24507; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:51:58 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24460; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:51:49 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-e-14.usc.edu [128.125.222.158]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id UAA14874; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 20:51:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970302153137.01665964@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 20:52:28 -0800 To: pantalone@sprintmail.com From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Strange files in root directory Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:22 AM 3/2/97 -0500, Brett Pantalone wrote: >My 755CE contains three hidden files in the root directory: > >Ea data. sf >Syslevel.tp >Wp root. sf > >I believe that these files were shipped with the original >installation. What are they for, and can they be safely deleted? >The first file is over 6 megabytes, and I would like to recover the >space. Those are OS/2 files. If you use OS/2, don't delete them. If you've already gotten rid of OS/2, go ahead and dump them. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 2 23:57:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA198295051; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:57:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25172; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:55:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:51:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24467; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:51:51 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24453; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:51:46 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-e-14.usc.edu [128.125.222.158]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id UAA14866; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 20:51:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970302152942.0077eed4@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 20:52:26 -0800 To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Eye strain with 1024 * 768? Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 07:49 PM 3/1/97 HST, David Ross wrote: >> If you run DOS apps in a window, then you can do a lot to manipulate their >> size. It might be when you purchase the Plus! pack, but there are fonts >> just for DOS windows that allow for more size & selection variety for many >> window sizes. > >Only for those DOS apps that are CRT-based. I have several which I use >regularly, but not on my 800x600 machine, because they are *not* >CRT-based, and even with Plus! I can't make fonts big enough >to be usable. What does "CRT-based" mean? Any app--DOS or Windows--is "CRT-based" whenever its run on a machine with a CRT! >Also, many games (especially kids games) won't use the higher >resolution, and look bad when stretched. (One of my TP701's main uses >is as a pacifier for my 2-year-old when we fly; anyone who flies >on the same plane with us benefits from this:-) I'll vouch for the computer-as-pacifier argument for 2 year olds. ;-) ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 3 02:34:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA226484442; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 02:34:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07605; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 02:32:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Mar 1997 02:30:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07324; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 02:30:15 -0500 Received: from mongkok.hk.super.net (root@mongkok.hk.super.net [202.14.67.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07277; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 02:30:07 -0500 Received: from mango (max6-30.hk.super.net [202.64.22.30]) by mongkok.hk.super.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11341 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:30:02 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <331A7FD1.5817@hk.super.net> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 15:37:53 +0800 From: Byron Lee Reply-To: byron@HK.Super.NET X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad Subject: 104MB Ram in ThinkPad 760ED? 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Hi,
    I just bought the TP 760ED. According to the cataloge, this model (9546-A9A) can support up to 104MB of Ram. How can I make my TP to this amount of Ram?

Regards,
Byron
From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 3 05:11:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA248783904; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 05:11:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA23343; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 05:10:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Mar 1997 05:07:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22868; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 05:07:28 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22858; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 05:07:23 -0500 Received: by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA17962; Mon, 3 Mar 97 00:07:15 HST From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <9703031007.AA17962@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Eye strain with 1024 * 768? To: rwhittle@usa.net (Randy Whittle) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 97 0:07:15 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970302152942.0077eed4@scf.usc.edu>; from "Randy Whittle" at Mar 2, 97 8:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > What does "CRT-based" mean? Any app--DOS or Windows--is "CRT-based" > whenever its run on a machine with a CRT! Well, true; what I mean here is programs that use the DOS screen-writing functions (e.g. writing to device CON: in BASIC). Any program that does this can use the Win95 rescalable fonts in the DOS window, in which case small dot pitch is not a problem. Unfortunately, many DOS apps bypass the BIOS and do direct screen writes, using built-in fonts and assuming 640x480 resolution. Sorry about the misleading use of lingo; I'm afraid I'm a bit of a dinosaur (I still refer to memory as "core":-) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 3 18:53:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA128253189; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:53:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22658; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:51:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:44:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21917; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:44:30 -0500 Received: from emout20.mail.aol.com (emout20.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21901; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:44:21 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA23907 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:43:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:43:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970303184330_-1306124567@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Strange files in root directory Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In a message dated 97-03-02 12:04:12 EST, you write: << Subj: Re: Strange files in root directory Date: 97-03-02 12:04:12 EST From: billy@MIX.COM Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > My 755CE contains three hidden files in the root directory: > Ea data. sf > Syslevel.tp > Wp root. sf I don't know what the first and last do but my 755CE runs fine without them - might be part of the demo software. I do recall cleaning all that out was some work.. On mine syslevel.tp is not hidden, it's dated 28-Sep-94 12:19PM and contains two lines - KWAOAUS KXAOAUS I don't know what this does but it's small enough that I never tried to find out what happens without it. Billy Y.. >> The file ea data. sf is the extended attributes file for OS/2. The wp root. sf is also for OS/2, but I'm not sure exactly what it does. If you remove OS/2, then you can get rid of those files also. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 3 19:20:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA133444859; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:20:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23361; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:55:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:51:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22673; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:51:34 -0500 Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22659; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:51:27 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA13377 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:50:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:50:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970303185051_-1138354957@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Memory for 701 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anybody know where I can trade in a 4meg SO-DIMM for a 701 in credit or something like that for a 16meg module? Or does anybody know of a dealer with 16meg SO-DIMMs for < $130? Thanks. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 3 19:45:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA139566314; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:45:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27325; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:43:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:40:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26980; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:40:36 -0500 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26964; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:40:30 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id TAA10191 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:39:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:39:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970303185721_1316649980@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Online User's guide Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anybody know where I can obtain the Online users guides for the 701cs (DX4) and 355C in either DOS, Windows, or OS/2 format? Thanks. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 3 20:48:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA157750114; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 20:48:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03970; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 20:46:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Mar 1997 20:43:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03721; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 20:43:36 -0500 Received: from isomedia.com (mail.isomedia.com [204.157.237.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03704; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 20:43:31 -0500 Received: from billprat (pm3-020.isomedia.com [206.129.160.116]) by isomedia.com (8.6.10/8) with ESMTP id RAA13574; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:41:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199703040141.RAA13574@isomedia.com> From: "Bill Pratt" To: , Subject: Re: Memory for 701 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:31:30 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The Chip Merchant!! go to http://www.thechipmerchant.com good luck Bill Pratt, Bellevue, WA "No matter where you go...there you are"! billp117@isomedia.com http://www.isomedia.com/homes/billp117 ---------- > From: PAULKHOURY@aol.com > To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: Re: Memory for 701 > Date: Monday, March 03, 1997 3:50 PM > > Does anybody know where I can trade in a 4meg SO-DIMM for a 701 in credit or > something like that for a 16meg module? Or does anybody know of a dealer > with 16meg SO-DIMMs for < $130? Thanks. > > Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 3 22:57:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA182457872; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 22:57:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16969; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 22:56:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Mar 1997 22:52:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16405; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 22:52:44 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16390; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 22:52:39 -0500 Received: from user-37kb97a.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb97a.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.234]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA12856; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 22:52:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199703040352.WAA12856@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "PAULKHOURY@aol.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 03 Mar 97 22:52:21 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Strange files in root directory Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It is where os/2 stores the extended attributes for files on a FAT paratition. On Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:43:43 -0500 (EST), >The file ea data. sf is the extended attributes file for OS/2. The wp root. >sf is also for OS/2, but I'm not sure exactly what it does. If you remove >OS/2, then you can get rid of those files also. > >Paul Khoury jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 4 10:24:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA008419098; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:24:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22314; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:23:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:18:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21581; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:18:19 -0500 Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21561; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:18:15 -0500 Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA18972 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:18:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from juno.cns.vt.edu (juno.cns.vt.edu [128.173.12.34]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA22889 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:18:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703041518.KAA22889@sable.cc.vt.edu> From: "Dan Cook" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Tue, 04 Mar 97 10:17:53 -0500 Reply-To: "Dan Cook" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Virginia Tech's Registered PMMail 1.9 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Installing OS/2 Networking on 365X Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recently bought a 365X, and over the weekend set it up with boot manager to run both Win95 and OS/2. Does anyone know how to install networking part of OS/2 Connect. This machine does not have a CD drive. I have a 3Com PCMCIA ethernet card. I have done this once before on a 701 about a year ago, but now I can't remember how. Any help is appreciated. Thanx, Dan Cook Va Tech / Communications Network Services 1700 Pratt Drive Blacksburg, VA 24061-0506 (540) 231-5270 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 4 11:56:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA029154579; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:56:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03462; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:54:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:51:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03063; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:51:04 -0500 Received: from Mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03036; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:50:52 -0500 Received: from runngdog.pr.mcs.net (runngdog.pr.mcs.net [205.164.4.46]) by Mailbox.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id KAA03752; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:50:36 -0600 (CST) Received: by runngdog.pr.mcs.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC2889.DD306C20@runngdog.pr.mcs.net>; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:50:24 -0600 Message-Id: <01BC2889.DD306C20@runngdog.pr.mcs.net> From: Dane Tyson To: "'dmohr'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Eye strain with 1024 * 768? Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:50:02 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've been using a Toshiba Tecra with XGA resolution on a 12" screeen for = about a year now and I love it. I dock it at the office with a 17" = monitor set to the same resolution, and I find I really like looking at = exactly the same screen whether it's docked or not. In terms of = eyestrain, best way to check this out is to find an laptop with a SVGA = resolution on a 10" screen (e.g., a TP 365X), as this resolution is = close (though not identical) to XGA on a 12" screen. If you're still worried about eyestrain after that, and you're not = locked into IBM, you might want to consider a Toshiba Tecra 740CDT = (MMX), which runs XGA on a 13.3" screen. You can get information on = this model at:=20 http://www.toshiba.com/tais/csd/products/Tecra740/ Regards, Dane Tyson -----Original Message----- From: dmohr [SMTP:dmohr@nbnet.nb.ca] Sent: 27 February 1997 12:01 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Eye strain with 1024 * 768? I expect to purchased the 760XD (MMX) when it becomes available in the = next quarter. It comes with a 1024 by 768 screen. I have heard that these screens can be difficult to read. I would like to hear from people who presently have a thinkpad with a 1024 by 768 screen regarding how = legible they are. I have not been able to find a vendor where I live who has = such a notebook so I need some advice from others. Thanks in advance. Best, Doug From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 4 13:24:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA049969870; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:24:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07239; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 12:25:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 12:22:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06685; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 12:22:19 -0500 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06673; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 12:22:13 -0500 Received: from idle.execpc.com (idle.execpc.com [169.207.6.20]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA04076 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:22:08 -0600 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New BIOS for Thinkpad 760E+ models Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 17:23:06 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <331c59b0.1568328@mailgate.execpc.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/16.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What follows are excerpts from the README for the new bios. ------------------------------------------------------------ IBM ThinkPad 760E/760ED/760EL/760ELD February 28, 1997 =09 System Program Service Diskette Version 1.07 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D What This Diskette Does ----------------------- The System Program Service Diskette given here can update the system program stored in the ThinkPad system to fix problems, add new functions, or expand functions. The supported models are as follows. - ThinkPad 760E* , 760ED*, 760EL and 760ELD * IMPORTANT NOTICE for 760E/760ED system users; If you display is an XGA (1024 x 768), this diskette does NOT support your BIOS. Please update your BIOS with the "IBM ThinkPad 760E/760ED XGA System Program Service Diskette". <1.07> - (Fix) (Windows 95 only) Error pop up "1101" at power-on time when the serial port confugration is changed by the Device Manager of Windows 95 and the system is "docked". =46YI. Tom Kustner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 4 14:11:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA060102702; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:11:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18244; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:09:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:06:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17853; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:06:48 -0500 Received: from mailgate22 (mailgate22-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.54]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17815; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:06:14 -0500 Received: by mailgate22 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA21179; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:05:38 -0800 Message-Id: <199703041905.LAA21179@mailgate22> Received: from sdn-ts-010mdrelrp10.dialsprint.net(206.133.12.29) by mailfep2-hme1 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_10.1.1.6/Q_12938_3_331c7276; Tue Mar 4 11:05:27 1997 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tony Staples" Organization: Motion Motorsports To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:07:04 -0004 Subject: List Archive? Reply-To: tstaples@sprintmail.com Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <199603292200.RAA02024@CS.UTK.EDU> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Can anyone tell me if the list traffic is currently being archived, and if so, where? The info I saved when I subscribed listed: >The FAQ for this group is available for anonymous ftp from >swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu, directory pub/archive/thinkpad/faq >(URL: ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu/archive/thinkpad/faq/ ) >Thanks to Sean Chou for maintaining the >FAQ. >There's also an archive of the past traffic on the list in >ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu/archive/thinkpad/archive Both of these sites are hopelessly out of date. I must have missed any announcement of a change in location. I specifically need to review the recent threads regarding the upgrade of the ThinkPad MWave modem to 28.8, and the 33.6 MWave hack. Thanks in advance. -Tony Staples tstaples@sprintmail.com "Yes I use Microsoft(tm) products. But I wash my hands before eating." From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 4 14:51:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA072755078; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:51:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23030; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:50:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:47:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22611; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:47:00 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22590; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:46:53 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IG3SE0X00099H168@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 12:46:48 MST Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 12:43:06 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: List Archive? In-Reply-To: "Message dated Tue, 04 Mar 1997 14:07:04 -0004" <199703041905.LAA21179@mailgate22> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IG3SMYW49Q99H168@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII References: <199603292200.RAA02024@CS.UTK.EDU> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > [...] and the 33.6 MWave hack. I just put this one little piece of info up for anon ftp at ftp.vnet.net as /pub/users/billy/mwave.33k6 - it will remain there for at least a couple weeks... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 4 14:52:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA073225134; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:52:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23180; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:50:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:48:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22758; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:48:00 -0500 Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu (martigny.ai.mit.edu [18.43.0.152]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22742; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:47:54 -0500 Received: from aarau.ai.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA072144868; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:47:48 -0500 Received: by aarau.ai.mit.edu id m0w20Bg-00002zC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:47:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:47:48 -0500 (EST) From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: tstaples@sprintmail.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199703041905.LAA21179@mailgate22> (tstaples@sprintmail.com) Subject: List Archive? X-Mailer: Edwin [version 3.91, MIT Scheme Release 7.5a] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu From: "Tony Staples" Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:07:04 -0004 Can anyone tell me if the list traffic is currently being archived, and if so, where? The info I saved when I subscribed listed: >The FAQ for this group is available for anonymous ftp from >swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu, directory pub/archive/thinkpad/faq >(URL: ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu/archive/thinkpad/faq/ ) >Thanks to Sean Chou for maintaining the >FAQ. >There's also an archive of the past traffic on the list in >ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu/archive/thinkpad/archive Both of these sites are hopelessly out of date. I must have missed any announcement of a change in location. I specifically need to review the recent threads regarding the upgrade of the ThinkPad MWave modem to 28.8, and the 33.6 MWave hack. Thanks in advance. Sorry -- I never got around to automating the list archive, and it has been a while since I updated it. However, the list traffic has all been saved. I just chopped up the saved traffic into reasonably-sized pieces and I'm copying it to the ftp server right now. The copy should be finished in ten or fifteen minutes. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 4 17:18:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA108743924; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:18:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12291; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:15:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:11:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11857; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:11:20 -0500 Received: from kari.fm.unit.no (0@kari.fm.unit.no [129.241.26.200]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11820; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:11:04 -0500 Received: from demokrit.fm.unit.no (30256@demokrit-26.fm.unit.no [129.241.26.211]) by kari.fm.unit.no (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA24884; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:10:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (larsev@localhost) by demokrit.fm.unit.no (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id TAA29248; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:10:57 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: demokrit.fm.unit.no: larsev owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:10:57 +0100 (MET) From: Lars Evensen To: Dan Cook Cc: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Re: Installing OS/2 Networking on 365X In-Reply-To: <199703041518.KAA22889@sable.cc.vt.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Dan Cook wrote: > I recently bought a 365X, and over the weekend set it up with > boot manager to run both Win95 and OS/2. Does anyone know how to > install networking part of OS/2 Connect. This machine does not > have a CD drive. I have a 3Com PCMCIA ethernet card. I have > done this once before on a 701 about a year ago, but now I can't > remember how. Any help is appreciated. What parts of the networking are you looking for ? If It's simply the TCP/IP part, all you have to do is copy the files containing the TCPIP installation from the CD on to you harddisk in one way or another. You also have to install the MPTS part, of the connect, since this is tha part that manages the network cards. It will be located in a directory called cid\mptn or cid\mpts on the CD. Install the MPTS part first, since all other networking products needs this program to install correctly If you want to install LSM, Netware, FFST/2, PSF/2 etc, these will all be located in their corresponding directory located under \cid\ If you have access to another networked machine that has a CD-ROM and is running warp connect, you can do the installation remote. This is a fast and easy option. All you have to do is go into the folder : os2 system -> system setup -> warp connect install / remove Here you will find an option that will allow you to do a remote installation of warp connect. Don't worry, you will get the option to install only the networking part if you are installing on a system that already has OS/2 installed on it. If you have any problems doing this, feel free to send me a mail, and ask any questions you have about this. CU -- LArs Evensen, Overordnet TillitsValgt (OTV) ved FIM, NTNU E.B.Schieldrops Vei 11-16 E-mail : larsev@fm.unit.no 7033 Trondheim WWW : http://www.fm.unit.no/~larsev/ Norway Phone : + 47 - 73 88 89 01 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 4 18:23:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA123847833; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:23:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12434; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:28:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:23:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11689; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:23:52 -0500 Received: from ankur.bellcore.com (ankur.bellcore.com [192.4.7.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11665; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:23:44 -0500 Received: from ankur (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ankur.bellcore.com (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA25216; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:23:37 -0500 Sender: hira@bellcore.com Message-Id: <331CA0E5.59E2B600@bellcore.com> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 17:23:34 -0500 From: Hiralal Agrawal Organization: Bellcore X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Cc: hira@bellcore.com Subject: Third party 2.1G disk drives for TP 760CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was recently trying to buy the IBM's 2.1G hard disk drive for my 760CD from a reseller. But he tried to convince me that I would be better off buying a third party 2.0G disk made by a company called CMF. The prices quoted were $1184 for the IBM 2.1G disk v/s $919 for the CMF 2.0G disk. Has anyone had any positive/negative experience with using third party disks on 760CD? Are there any other third party disk choices besides CMF? Other than the price, what are some other pro's and con's of using third party disks? I am sure using them would surely have an effect on the machine warranty! Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Hira. hira@bellcore.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 4 23:14:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA177905252; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:14:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13427; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:09:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:02:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12901; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:02:23 -0500 Received: from mail-gw3.pacbell.net (mail-gw3.pacbell.net [206.13.28.55]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12879; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:02:16 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-121-215.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.121.215]) by mail-gw3.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA29511; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 20:02:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703050402.UAA29511@mail-gw3.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Tom Kustner" , Subject: Re: New BIOS for Thinkpad 760E+ models Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 20:00:06 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu After upgrading to the new 1.07 BIOS I was able to create a hibernation file with Win95 OSR2 on a FAT32 partition. I guess they didn't mention fixing that bug. The only problem was that when I restarted to get out of the hibernation mode, my computer locked up tight. I guess hibernation feature will have to wait. Anyone have better luck. ---------- <1.07> - (Fix) (Windows 95 only) Error pop up "1101" at power-on time when the serial port confugration is changed by the Device Manager of Windows 95 and the system is "docked". From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 4 23:48:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA184577331; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:48:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17284; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:46:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:43:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16773; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:43:53 -0500 Received: from ts1.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16756; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:43:47 -0500 Received: from egiles (port19.netpathway.com [208.137.139.34]) by ts1.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA16833; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 22:42:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199703050442.WAA16833@ts1.netpathway.com> From: "Eric Giles" To: "Tom Franklin" , Subject: Re: New BIOS for Thinkpad 760E+ models Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 22:39:09 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, I have tried 4 different times to run Win95 OSR2 on my 760ED, but it always causes random lock-ups and failures. I have tried installing with FAT 16 and with FAT 32. I did not realize that some were using this on their 760's without any problems, besides the hibernation (which I had heard of, although it does not matter in my case). If I use Win95 version A everything works perfectly. It seems from my experience that my problems with OSR2 on the 760 were with the Mwave components. I would be interested to hear if anyone else had problems such as this with OSR2, and if the new BIOS fixes these problems also. BTW, I was using the most current BIOS and the newest drivers when I tried the OSR2 install, the last attempt being 3 weeks ago. Thanks for your help-- Eric Giles ---------- > From: Tom Franklin > To: Tom Kustner ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: New BIOS for Thinkpad 760E+ models > Date: Tuesday, March 04, 1997 10:00 PM > > After upgrading to the new 1.07 BIOS I was able to create a hibernation > file with Win95 OSR2 on a FAT32 partition. I guess they didn't mention > fixing that bug. > > The only problem was that when I restarted to get out of the hibernation > mode, my computer locked up tight. I guess hibernation feature will have > to wait. Anyone have better luck. > > ---------- > <1.07> > - (Fix) (Windows 95 only) Error pop up "1101" at power-on time when > the serial port confugration is changed by the Device Manager of > Windows 95 and the system is "docked". > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 5 02:27:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA215656853; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:27:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29010; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:08:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:04:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28615; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:04:51 -0500 Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28605; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:04:48 -0500 Received: from presario ([207.147.203.108]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAB10612 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 07:04:14 +0000 From: "Ken St. John" <97Pony@worldnet.att.net> To: Subject: TP Icons Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:02:54 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970305070410.AAB10612@presario> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A while ago, while I subscribed to CI$, I came across a nifty little set of ThinkPad icons that had been created. Allowed you to replace "My Computer" with a little picture of a TP and so forth. Certainly not a major big deal, but rather fun. Unfortunate, along the way I think my hard disk ate the file and it's been lost!! If someone has this file available, please email it to me. I appreciate it very much! Ken email: 97Pony@worldnet.att.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 5 10:11:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA293884685; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:11:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29211; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:08:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:04:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28531; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:03:59 -0500 Received: from emout11.mail.aol.com (emout11.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28498; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:03:49 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout11.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA10139 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:03:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:03:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970305100307_279047764@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Original Preloads Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anybody still have the original preloads for a 701cs (DX4) and a 355c? I only backed up some of the items before my drive got erased, and IBM told me that they no longer sell the original preload CD-ROM. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 5 10:26:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA297515561; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:26:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01569; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:23:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:19:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00940; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:19:43 -0500 Received: from gte.com (h132-197-8-26.gte.com [132.197.8.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00923; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:19:37 -0500 Received: from johanna.gte.com by gte.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970305101803.008758a0@pophost.gte.com> X-Sender: jls5@pophost.gte.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 10:18:04 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jeff Sokolov Subject: Updated 560? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I know that IBM just released new version of the 560 but these version don't include any additional CPUs. Does anyone know if IBM is planning to release a 560 with an MMX chip in the near future? I also know that the 760 will come with an MMX chip during 2nd quarter. ----------------------------------------------- Jeff Sokolov (jsokolov@gte.com) Senior Member of the Technical Staff Service Concept and Design Department GTE Laboratories Incorporated 40 Sylvan Road, MS 38 Waltham, MA 02154 (617) 466-4042 (phone) (617) 466-4035 (fax) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 5 11:22:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA012008963; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:22:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08752; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:19:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:15:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07987; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:15:03 -0500 Received: from omzrelay.mci.com (omzrelay.mci.com [199.249.19.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07935; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:14:49 -0500 Received: from pop2b.mail.mci.com (pop2b.mail.mci.com [166.37.204.3]) by omzrelay.mci.com (8.8.5/) with ESMTP id KAA06538; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:14:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from pop1a.mail.mci.com (pop1a.mail.mci.com [166.37.204.5]) by pop2b.mail.mci.com (8.8.5/) with ESMTP id KAA09187; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:14:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from gginsberg.metro.mci.com ([166.32.99.36]) by pop1a.mail.mci.com (post.office MTA v2.1 0910 ID# 0-10275) with SMTP id AAA31456; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:14:09 -0600 Received: by gginsberg.metro.mci.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC2956.54DE1CA0@gginsberg.metro.mci.com>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:14:02 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC2956.54DE1CA0@gginsberg.metro.mci.com> From: "Gregg Ginsberg" To: "'Jeff Sokolov'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Updated 560? Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:41:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Our IBM rep has told us to look for new 560's in the 4th quarter -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Sokolov [SMTP:jls5@gte.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 1997 10:18 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Updated 560? I know that IBM just released new version of the 560 but these version don't include any additional CPUs. Does anyone know if IBM is planning to release a 560 with an MMX chip in the near future? I also know that the 760 will come with an MMX chip during 2nd quarter. Gregg Ginsberg executiveOne Technical Support Gregg.Ginsberg@MCI.Com Phone: 703-918-6649, v223-6649 Pager: 1-800-206-9360 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 5 11:35:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA014929752; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:35:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10584; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:33:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:30:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10264; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:30:20 -0500 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10230; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:30:07 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx03-04.teleport.com [206.163.123.69]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA14764 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 08:29:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 08:29:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703051629.IAA14764@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is there a reason for 3XX, 5XX, and 7XX designations? Are there others? Do only the 700 series carry the 3 yr warranty etc? BD From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 5 11:58:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA022981115; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:58:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14219; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:57:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:53:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13439; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:53:14 -0500 Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13405; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:53:01 -0500 Received: from HankG ([207.116.38.90]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA22910 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:52:27 +0000 X-Sender: hegrey@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: hegrey Subject: Please add to your list Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:52:27 +0000 Message-Id: <19970305165225.AAA22910@HankG> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi- Well you please add me to your thinkpad subscriber list. Thanks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 5 16:11:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA082146293; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:11:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15981; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:03:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:50:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13954; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:50:11 -0500 Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13920; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:50:00 -0500 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.184.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/03/03 3.23)) id PAA29819; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:49:48 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from crc3.concentric.net (cnc00453.concentric.net [206.83.91.53]) by newman.concentric.net (8.8.5) id PAA02585; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:49:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <331DDCF2.68E1@cris.com> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 13:52:02 -0700 From: Gabriel Reply-To: GLYbarra@aol.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: remove Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Will you please remove me from your thinkpad subscriber list. Thank you Gabriel Leon From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 5 22:41:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA173379691; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:41:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28049; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:39:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:34:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27297; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:34:31 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27286; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:34:23 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-j-11.usc.edu [128.125.224.155]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id TAA05656; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 19:33:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970305140608.006b7a1c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 19:34:58 -0800 To: "Gregg Ginsberg" From: Randy Whittle Subject: RE: Updated 560? Cc: "'Jeff Sokolov'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:41 AM 3/5/97 -0500, Gregg Ginsberg wrote: >Our IBM rep has told us to look for new 560's in the 4th quarter What is expected to be different about them? My guess: 1024x768 resolution, faster CPU, bigger HD--if they're smart, maybe they'll add som cache. Anything else? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 5 22:50:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA175100224; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:50:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29365; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:48:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:45:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28845; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:45:11 -0500 Received: from vanakam.cc.columbia.edu (cu18397@vanakam.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28820; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:45:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (adw11@localhost) by vanakam.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA17180 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:44:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:44:56 -0500 (EST) From: Arthur D Woo Sender: adw11@columbia.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: EasyServ repairs Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I am about to return my ThinkPad for an EasyServ repair. Should I remove my memory DIMMs and PC-Cards, etc first? Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Arthur From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 5 23:15:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA180421707; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:15:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02779; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:13:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:10:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02317; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:10:33 -0500 Received: from toysrus-bh.tru.com (toysrus-bh.tru.com [206.34.177.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02252; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:10:15 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by toysrus-bh.tru.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id XAA26357 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:07:46 -0500 Received: from news.tru.com by toysrus-bh.tru.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma026348; Wed, 5 Mar 97 23:07:07 -0500 Received: from msg01psp.tru.com by mailgate.tru.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Mar96-0504PM) id AA31901; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:17:10 -0500 Received: by msg01psp.tru.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC29BB.82665920@msg01psp.tru.com>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:18:18 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Crumrine, Mike" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" , "'Arthur D Woo'" Subject: RE: EasyServ repairs (plus a kudos) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:18:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu They will actually advise you to remove anything that is not needed to work the problem. My 760cd wouldn't boot last Friday. I think it was in some kind of funky suspend state. Wouldn't spin the drive, just had a blinking speaker symbol. IBM fedexed me a box which I received on Monday. I shipped it right out and got it back this morning (Wednesday). Now that is service! I cringe when I see what the 760cd now sells for, but I remind myself that more than just a piece of hardware, I bought into a support plan. Another brand and I would probably still be looking for the right phone number to call. Mike ---------- From: Arthur D Woo [SMTP:adw11@columbia.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 1997 10:45 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: EasyServ repairs Hi, I am about to return my ThinkPad for an EasyServ repair. Should I remove my memory DIMMs and PC-Cards, etc first? Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Arthur From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 5 23:54:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA188274067; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:54:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07172; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:53:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:49:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06750; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:49:38 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06658; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:49:24 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IG5PH61SCG99HNPB@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 21:49:12 MST Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 21:39:13 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: EasyServ repairs In-Reply-To: "Message dated Wed, 05 Mar 1997 22:44:56 -0500 (EST)" Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IG5PUTOBJW99HNPB@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I am about to return my ThinkPad for an EasyServ repair. Should I remove > my memory DIMMs and PC-Cards, etc first? If they are not part of the problem you want fixed then yes, definitely. You will get an inventory list to fill out on which you can list exactly what is being sent in too. When I sent mine in for a keyboard repair I took everything that is removable out - hard disk, battery, floppy disk, etc. I figured why take unnecessary chances.. I would not ship it with the battery installed inside in any case - it's pretty heavy compared to the rest of the Thinkpad, but I imagine if you had a dead battery you'd just have to return it by itself. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 01:03:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA202088213; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:03:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12458; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:02:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 00:59:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12093; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 00:58:59 -0500 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12083; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 00:58:53 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id AAA10503 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 00:58:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 00:58:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970306005819_447087508@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Warrenty Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In a message dated 97-03-05 11:43:03 EST, you write: << Is there a reason for 3XX, 5XX, and 7XX designations? Are there others? Do only the 700 series carry the 3 yr warranty etc? BD >> I think that it's the price and expected use of the machine that might make a difference. I used to have a 355C, and it had a 1 yr. warranty, and now I have a 701CS which has a 3 yr. warranty. I think that is is mainly because that the 355/360 series and 500/510cs is a "value" line, while something like the 701, the popular 755, or the 760 have 3 yr. warranties, because they were meant for multimedia, business presentations, etc. There's probably more to it than this, though. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 01:16:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA204518964; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:16:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13383; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:14:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:11:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13160; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:11:48 -0500 Received: from rmi.net (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13140; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:11:36 -0500 Received: from lee.market1.com (slip22117.rmii.com [166.93.22.117]) by rmi.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA28148 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:11:03 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:11:03 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703060611.XAA28148@rmi.net> X-Sender: lee@rmii.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: lee@rmi.net (Lee Stewart) Subject: Re: EasyServ repairs Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >I am about to return my ThinkPad for an EasyServ repair. Should I remove >my memory DIMMs and PC-Cards, etc first? Any comments would be >appreciated. Yes, remove anything that can be removed that's not broken. DIMMs, cards, hard drive, connectors, battery, CDROM/diskette drive... If it's not broken, don't chance it being broken or lost... Lee Stewart | lee@rmii.com --- - - - - - - - - - - - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AD2000 Web Designer | GRMI Web Designer http://www.ad2000.org | http://www.grmi.org From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 01:44:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA210180641; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:44:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02676; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:12:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:07:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01807; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:07:52 -0500 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01778; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:07:41 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-117-152.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.117.152]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA07148 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:06:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703060406.UAA07148@mail-gw.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: Xircom Cardbus 100/10 Adapter Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:08:08 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just got one of these cards and cannot get it working with my TP760E running Win95 OSR2. The readme.txt on the Xircom disk says, "If using Windows 95 OSR2, an operating system patch may be required. Check with IBM for more information." I called IBM and they knew nothing about this patch. Has anyone got this card working in their machine? \\|||// (o) (o) =========.oOO==( )==OOo.=========== || || || Thomas D. Franklin || || mailto:tomfrank@pacbell.net || || || || .oooO Oooo. || ==========( )===( )============ \ ( ) / \_) (_/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 01:58:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA212511503; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:58:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16518; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:56:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:53:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16095; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:53:16 -0500 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16081; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:53:08 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA23325 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:52:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:52:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970306015236_-1372834990@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Fwd: Third party 2.1G disk drives for TP 760CD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hiralal, We are a 3rd party vendor of 2.1gb HDDs for IBM machines. If you quoted the pricing correctly, the price quoted you for the 2fb drive is around what we now chage for our 3gb drive. The 2.1gb we sell is the Toshiba, a very high quality drive. Our drive for the TP760 comes in the additional HDD Caddy. I am sending you our upgrade catalog for your system. BTW - Did you know that we can make the IBM systems hold a Total of 5 to 6gb of HDD Storage Space? By installing a 2.1gb or 3gb HDD internally (current maximum depending on system) and a 3gb HDD in our Parallel Port or PC Card Slot External HDD Shell (current maximum), you can achieve a Total of 6 or 5gb of Storage Space. We also have CPU upgrades for many of the IBM line. Please contact me if you hav any other questions or needs. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM 800-737-7693 X102 714-418-0113 X102 Tel 714-418-0117 Fax Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Forwarded Message======== Subj: Third party 2.1G disk drives for TP 760CD Date: 97-03-05 02:26:14 EST From: hira@bellcore.com (Hiralal Agrawal) Sender: hira@bellcore.com To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu CC: hira@bellcore.com I was recently trying to buy the IBM's 2.1G hard disk drive for my 760CD from a reseller. But he tried to convince me that I would be better off buying a third party 2.0G disk made by a company called CMF. The prices quoted were $1184 for the IBM 2.1G disk v/s $919 for the CMF 2.0G disk. Has anyone had any positive/negative experience with using third party disks on 760CD? Are there any other third party disk choices besides CMF? Other than the price, what are some other pro's and con's of using third party disks? I am sure using them would surely have an effect on the machine warranty! Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Hira. hira@bellcore.com --------------------- Forwarded message: From: hira@bellcore.com (Hiralal Agrawal) Sender: hira@bellcore.com To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu CC: hira@bellcore.com Date: 97-03-05 02:26:14 EST I was recently trying to buy the IBM's 2.1G hard disk drive for my 760CD from a reseller. But he tried to convince me that I would be better off buying a third party 2.0G disk made by a company called CMF. The prices quoted were $1184 for the IBM 2.1G disk v/s $919 for the CMF 2.0G disk. Has anyone had any positive/negative experience with using third party disks on 760CD? Are there any other third party disk choices besides CMF? Other than the price, what are some other pro's and con's of using third party disks? I am sure using them would surely have an effect on the machine warranty! Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Hira. hira@bellcore.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 02:10:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA216082237; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 02:10:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17650; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 02:09:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 02:07:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17463; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 02:07:05 -0500 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17435; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 02:07:00 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx21-25.teleport.com [206.163.125.154]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA10622; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:06:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:06:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703060706.XAA10622@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: Warrenty Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu That is what it appears. The thought occurred while reading the recent thread about the 560s. They seem like such neat machines but as has been noted here -with displeasure- they only carry the one year warranty. This month is the start of my second year of warranty on my 701C ;) -And as I look toward an upgrade I will look first at the three year warranties. I have a friend who talks three year leases also... BD At 12:58 AM 3/6/97 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 97-03-05 11:43:03 EST, you write: > ><< > Is there a reason for 3XX, 5XX, and 7XX designations? Are there others? Do > only the 700 series carry the 3 yr warranty etc? > > BD > >> > >I think that it's the price and expected use of the machine that might make a >difference. I used to have a 355C, and it had a 1 yr. warranty, and now I >have a 701CS which has a 3 yr. warranty. I think that is is mainly because >that the 355/360 series and 500/510cs is a "value" line, while something like >the 701, the popular 755, or the 760 have 3 yr. warranties, because they were >meant for multimedia, business presentations, etc. There's probably more to >it than this, though. > >Paul Khoury > > From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 6 02:19:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA217832768; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 02:19:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14411; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:24:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:21:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14024; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:21:05 -0500 Received: from alpha1.superonline.com (alpha1.superonline.com [194.242.73.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13995; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:20:53 -0500 Received: from ikuruoz.mktr.dom ([192.127.89.72]) by alpha1.superonline.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA30130 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:20:31 +0300 Message-Id: <331E5DDB.7DA9@superonline.com> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 08:02:03 +0200 From: akineb@superonline.com (Ibrahim Enis Akin) X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: 365XD questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu G'day everybody, I am a new-comer to the list, here's my configuration: - ThinkPad 365XD (very nice machine, almost completely happy with it) - I have paneuropean Win95 and NT3.51 server dual boot machine, - I managed to partition the 1.08 HD into 2, without re-formatting it. (Partititon Magic v2.0 beautiful product) - I use a D-Link ethernet adapter (a combo). My bugging issues are: - Can't get rid of the fuel editor under W95. (I have read all over the manual). It seems like the "TP features" program is lacking a feature to turn it off, or at least make it invisible. - Can't get rid of the Gameport Joystick device conflict under W95. There seems to be an address conflict (0201-0201) but the driver doesn't let me to change the setting, nor to remove the adapter. Even if I remove it, Windows 95 puts it back! - I am also about to purchase a Harmony 33.6 fax/modem (rockwell chipset?), has anyone experimented with it? I look forward to exchanging any experiences. Thanks Enis Akin akineb@superonline.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 03:27:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA228896875; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:27:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA25293; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:27:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:24:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24853; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:24:28 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24817; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:24:21 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA00123; Wed, 5 Mar 97 22:24:15 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA25000; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:25:02 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199703060825.WAA25000@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Another dead 701 (was: EasyServe repairs (plus a kudos) To: crumrinem@toysrus.com (Crumrine, Mike) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 97 22:24:44 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, "'Arthur, D, Woo'"@math.hawaii.edu, adw11@columbia.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "Crumrine, Mike" at Mar 5, 97 11:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As some of you know, I lost use of my 701 for 2 months recently (December, January, part of February) while EZserve fumbled around trying to fix the machine. They finally gave up and sent me a (remanufactured) replacement, which I've now had for a few weeks. Well, this morning the video went haywire on the new machine (the screen is full of interference - jerking around, etc -even while displaying the memory test on bootup). So, now I get to start this whole process again:-( So, to Mike who is impressed with EZ-serve: I had the same reaction last August, when they rapidly fixed a video problem. Based on that (and some of my wife's experiences with an Aptiva and 2 TP360s) I used to use words like 'fabulous' when referring to IBM customer service and EZ-serve. I've now learned better: when they're good they're great, when they're not good they're abysmal. (I'm *very* lucky to have a second laptop, a new Micron, to fall back on; I'd be talking to a lawyer at this point had the machine been irreplaceable.) - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 06:31:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA254137918; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 06:31:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02230; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:14:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:11:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01521; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:11:28 -0500 Received: from juliet.logica.com (firewall-user@juliet.logica.com [193.133.30.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01488; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:11:19 -0500 Received: by juliet.logica.com; id JAA21230; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:11:14 GMT Received: from carmen.logica.co.uk(158.234.8.100) by juliet.logica.com via smap (g3.0.3) id xma021123; Thu, 6 Mar 97 09:10:56 GMT Received: from lovelace.logica.co.uk (lovelace.logica.co.uk [158.234.16.24]) by carmen.logica.co.uk (8.7.1/8.7.Beta.10) with SMTP id JAA18240 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:11:02 GMT Received: by lovelace.logica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC2A0E.572D3320@lovelace.logica.co.uk>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:11:14 -0000 Message-Id: From: Alba Chris To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: MMX CPU Upgrade Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:25:20 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 4 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recently bought TP760CD with Pentium 120. Does anyone know if there is an upgrade path to MMX? Regards, cja@usa.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 06:36:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA254738208; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 06:36:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02228; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:14:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:11:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01522; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:11:28 -0500 Received: from juliet.logica.com (firewall-user@juliet.logica.com [193.133.30.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01497; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:11:21 -0500 Received: by juliet.logica.com; id JAA21224; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:11:14 GMT Received: from carmen.logica.co.uk(158.234.8.100) by juliet.logica.com via smap (g3.0.3) id xma021138; Thu, 6 Mar 97 09:10:57 GMT Received: from lovelace.logica.co.uk (lovelace.logica.co.uk [158.234.16.24]) by carmen.logica.co.uk (8.7.1/8.7.Beta.10) with SMTP id JAA18253 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:11:03 GMT Received: by lovelace.logica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC2A0E.5734D440@lovelace.logica.co.uk>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:11:14 -0000 Message-Id: From: Alba Chris To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: FW: TP Icons Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:13:32 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 21 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I think quite a few of us would be interested, if anyone has these please post the address to the list. Regards, cja@usa.net -----Original Message----- From: Ken St. John [SMTP:97Pony@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 1997 7:03 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP Icons A while ago, while I subscribed to CI$, I came across a nifty little set of ThinkPad icons that had been created. Allowed you to replace "My Computer" with a little picture of a TP and so forth. Certainly not a major big deal, but rather fun. Unfortunate, along the way I think my hard disk ate the file and it's been lost!! If someone has this file available, please email it to me. I appreciate it very much! Ken email: 97Pony@worldnet.att.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 06:38:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA255128304; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 06:38:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27687; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:44:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:40:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26899; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:40:18 -0500 Received: from uluru.Stanford.EDU (uluru.Stanford.EDU [171.64.65.86]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26878; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:40:13 -0500 Received: (from interran@localhost) by uluru.Stanford.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.1) id AAA00586; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 00:40:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 00:40:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703060840.AAA00586@uluru.Stanford.EDU> From: interran-maildrop@uluru.Stanford.EDU Reply-To: interran@uluru.Stanford.EDU To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Want to sell your IBM ThinkPad 560 or 760? Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm a PhD student in the Computer Systems Laboratory at Stanford University. I need to buy a notebook computer to write my thesis and other research papers. I used a borrowed IBM ThinkPad 760ED for a few days and really liked it, so I would love to buy a used ThinkPad 760 or a slim and light 560 too. I have not been able to find many used ThinkPads for sale, so I am joining the ThinkPad mailing list even though I don't have a ThinkPad in hope that I can buy a ThinkPad from someone on the list. To anyone who is considering selling his or her ThinkPad soon, please let me have a chance to buy it? I'd like to buy a ThinkPad 760 or 560 series with at least 16 MB RAM, 810 MB disk or bigger, and an active matrix display. I'd also consider older ThinkPad series such as the 755 or 701 if they come loaded with lots of RAM, disk, and other goodies such as a CDROM drive and a PCMIA Ethernet card. You don't have to live in the San Francisco Bay Area to sell your ThinkPad to me. We can use Trade-direct, a business which acts as an intermediary between a seller and a buyer, to reduce the risk for both of us. Trade-direct reduces your risk because I can give them my credit card number and they will make sure the credit card is OK before they give you the go-ahead to ship the ThinkPad to me. You'll know before you ship the ThinkPad that I've already put the full price in escrow with Trade-direct and I can't get it back unless I ship the ThinkPad back to you in exactly the same condition as you shipped it. If I damage it in any way, Trade-direct won't refund the money to me and I'll have to keep the ThinkPad. You can read Trade-direct's web page at http://www.trade-direct.com/c2k/ for more information. Very truly yours, John Interrante Menlo Park, California Phone: 1-415-325-8357 TTY/FAX/ASCII Email: interran@uluru.stanford.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 08:01:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA266483285; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:01:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00426; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:59:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:56:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00155; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:56:33 -0500 Received: from gwa.ericsson.com (gwa.ericsson.com [198.215.127.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00143; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:56:28 -0500 Received: from mr2.exu.ericsson.se (mr2.exu.ericsson.com [138.85.147.12]) by gwa.ericsson.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id GAA05328 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 06:55:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (screamer.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.133.13]) by mr2.exu.ericsson.se (8.7.1/NAHUB-MR1.1) with SMTP id GAA14003 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 06:55:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from rpc1331.rtp.ericsson.se (pc257.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.136.2]) by screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id HAA13685 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:55:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199703061255.HAA13685@screamer.rtp.ericsson.se> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brett Pantalone" To: Thinkpad Mailing List Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:58:01 -0005 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: 365XD questions Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Can't get rid of the fuel editor under W95. (I have read all over >the manual). It seems like the "TP features" program is lacking a >feature to turn it off, or at least make it invisible. Try looking in WIN.INI in the LOAD= and RUN= lines. -- Brett Pantalone Staff Engineer, Ericsson Inc. pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 09:33:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA286058803; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:33:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10434; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:31:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:27:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09942; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:27:36 -0500 Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09927; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:27:28 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id JAA02456 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:26:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:26:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970306092646_1948000743@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: FW: TP Icons Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I would be interested also if anyone has these icon(s). Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 10:30:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA298962217; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:30:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17001; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:27:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:21:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16179; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:21:28 -0500 Received: from omzrelay.mci.com (omzrelay.mci.com [199.249.19.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16144; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:21:20 -0500 Received: from pop2a.mail.mci.com (pop2a.mail.mci.com [166.37.204.2]) by omzrelay.mci.com (8.8.5/) with ESMTP id JAA15913 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:20:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from pop1a.mail.mci.com (pop1a.mail.mci.com [166.37.204.5]) by pop2a.mail.mci.com (8.8.5/) with ESMTP id JAA03746 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:13:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from gginsberg.metro.mci.com ([166.32.99.36]) by pop1a.mail.mci.com (post.office MTA v2.1 0910 ID# 0-10275) with SMTP id AAA24265 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:13:14 -0600 Received: by gginsberg.metro.mci.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC2A16.F899B000@gginsberg.metro.mci.com>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:13:00 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC2A16.F899B000@gginsberg.metro.mci.com> From: "Gregg Ginsberg" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Updated 560? Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:12:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Unfortunately, the reps only have solid info on the upcoming 760 models = (which have been discussed in PC Week). They had no info on the 560 = other than 4th quarter release. I've been screaming for a real docking station solution since day = one.....the port replicator just doesn't cut it in an office = environment. -----Original Message----- From: Randy Whittle [SMTP:rwhittle@usa.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 1997 10:35 PM To: Gregg Ginsberg Cc: 'Jeff Sokolov'; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Updated 560? At 10:41 AM 3/5/97 -0500, Gregg Ginsberg wrote: >Our IBM rep has told us to look for new 560's in the 4th quarter What is expected to be different about them? My guess: 1024x768 resolution, faster CPU, bigger HD--if they're = smart, maybe they'll add som cache. Anything else? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC = http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it = is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I=20 am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 10:48:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA003343331; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:48:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19874; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:45:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:41:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19222; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:41:06 -0500 Received: from ts1.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19182; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:40:52 -0500 Received: from ericgile (port11.netpathway.com [208.137.139.26]) by ts1.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA06101; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:40:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199703061540.JAA06101@ts1.netpathway.com> From: "Eric Giles" To: "Tom Franklin" , "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: Re: Xircom Cardbus 100/10 Adapter Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:35:44 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I also purchased one of the Xircom Cardbus cards after I got my 760ED. I tried using the card with OSR2, but with no luck either. OSR2 caused many problems with my machine anyway, so I went back to Win95A. Xircom supplies a different driver for these earlier versions of Win95 that allows the card to work, but will not allow you to use any other type of PC Card at the same time. The card worked great using this method. I called IBM about the system patch during January, and they had no information about it then. I was hoping that this would have been taken care of by now, but obviously hasn't. So for right now, you may have to go back to an earlier version of Win95 so that you can use the card. So much for progress... Eric Giles ---------- > From: Tom Franklin > To: Thinkpad Distribution List > Subject: Xircom Cardbus 100/10 Adapter > Date: Wednesday, March 05, 1997 10:08 PM > > I just got one of these cards and cannot get it working with my TP760E > running Win95 OSR2. The readme.txt on the Xircom disk says, "If using > Windows 95 OSR2, an operating system patch may be required. Check with IBM > for more information." > > I called IBM and they knew nothing about this patch. Has anyone got this > card working in their machine? > > > \\|||// > (o) (o) > =========.oOO==( )==OOo.=========== > || || > || Thomas D. Franklin || > || mailto:tomfrank@pacbell.net || > || || > || .oooO Oooo. || > ==========( )===( )============ > \ ( ) / > \_) (_/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 13:56:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046764616; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:56:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09418; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:54:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:49:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08871; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:49:57 -0500 Received: from mtvernon1.accessus.net (mtvernon1.accessus.net [204.248.93.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08849; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:49:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (sblank@localhost) by mtvernon1.accessus.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09189 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:49:47 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:49:43 -0600 (CST) From: Stan Blank To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Newcomer: 701c desc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Since this is my first post, I'll consider myself a newcomer. Here is a description of my machine: Thinkpad 701c DX4/75 with 720 mb HD and 16 meg ram. -Running WFW3.11 (if it ain't broke.....) and PCDOS 6.3 -Panasonic KX-720 (sp?) 2x CDROM w/SCSI PCMCIA card -Connect via IR to HP200LX (when needed) or serial cable. I use this to transfer data from the HP200LX to the TP from a VB 3.0 program I wrote to complete my doctoral work at SIU. I also use the HP ram card for data transfer via the PCMCIA ports on the TP -ZIP drive for data archival -It all works great! What can I say? There are bigger and faster laptops, but this machine fits my requirements. I had a minor problem initially with the video board, but EZ serve had it repaired within 3 working days. No complaints there! The modem works without a hitch (most of the time -- but I have similar intermittent problems on my desktop, so I think the phone line is the culprit). I wrote my dissertation on this machine (all 269 pages) and used it to develop the computer program on which my dissertation research is based (using Visual Basic 3.0 -- about 150 pages of code -- not a huge effort in terms of large developers, but this was a very specific tool for a very specific research question). Would I buy another TP? You bet (if I could afford it). Oh, I bought this through the IBM friends and family promotion 1.5 years ago --- thanks again to Bob Angell! I'll be glad to entertain questions from anyone -- if I don't know the answer, I'll make something up . Stan --------------------------------------------------- Stan Blank, Ph.D. Director of Curriculum, Instruction, and Technology Wayne City High School Wayne City, Illinois 62895 sblank@basenet.net --------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 14:15:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA051135704; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:15:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09500; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:54:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:50:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09031; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:50:42 -0500 Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08846; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:49:40 -0500 Received: from pentium (ld05-030.compuserve.com [195.232.4.30]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA01359 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:49:15 -0800 Message-Id: <199703061849.KAA01359@m1.sprynet.com> From: "Jon Cleary" To: Subject: The icons everyone wants! 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v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11745; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:14:53 -0500 Received: from [204.138.232.80] ([204.138.232.80]) by cny_fw with SMTP (DuhMail/2.0) id OAA16426; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:14:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: cny_fw: Host [204.138.232.80] claimed to be city.north-york.on.ca Received: from CNY#u#3F#u#4F#u#EXT-Message_Server by city.north-york.on.ca with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 06 Mar 1997 14:24:50 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 14:09:59 -0500 From: Connie McCutcheon To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755C Processor Upgrades Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Can anyone recommend a processor upgrade for a ThinkPad 755C (DX4-75) and where they can be obtained. Thanks, C. McCutcheon From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 14:45:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA059497505; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:45:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14912; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:43:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:40:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14401; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:40:15 -0500 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14385; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:40:09 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA152812; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:40:07 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-80.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.80) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaVL8Crx; Thu Mar 6 19:39:56 1997 Message-Id: <331F1D7C.28C7@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 12:39:40 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Stan Blank Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Newcomer: 701c desc. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Stan Blank wrote: > Would I buy another TP? You bet (if I could afford it). Oh, I > bought this through the IBM friends and family promotion 1.5 years ago --- > thanks again to Bob Angell! I'll be glad to entertain questions from > anyone -- if I don't know the answer, I'll make something up . Stan, you are too kind! I have purchased a new laptop (the 3rd Thinkpad I have owned and would not consider another on the market!!) and have been well pleased .... IBM continues to do it right WRT laptops. -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. Engineer/Author/Consultant 2 Applied Info & Mgnt Sys, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v: 801-583-8544 e: aimsllc@ibm.net / bangell@cs.utah.edu 4 -------------------------------------------------------- 5 Applied Info & Mngmnt Systems has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet, Notes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCPIP,etc), Custom (AWK-PERL-C-Visualizer), 8 Database dsgn/dev. (DB2-SQLserver-Oracle-etc.), Modeling 9 OS's (Win95;Warp/NT Server; AIX / HP-UX / SunOS; OS/400) 10 -------------------------------------------------------- 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sand- 12 wich, they would both be with us today!" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 17:54:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA104548842; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:54:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04195; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:51:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:45:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03362; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:45:04 -0500 Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (ftp.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03323; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:44:55 -0500 Received: from ppp11.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 06 Mar 1997 14:42:20 PST Received: by ppp11.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC2A3C.C4314960@ppp11.Triumf.CA>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:43:33 -0800 Message-Id: <01BC2A3C.C4314960@ppp11.Triumf.CA> From: peter machule To: "'Connie McCutcheon'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: 755C Processor Upgrades Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:04:33 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I believe this one had an official upgrade path in form of a small pc board with a 75Mhz DX-4 on it. Of course you already have it (grin). Your best bet is therefore to find some kind soul who has done this and beg the the old 50Mhz version of him/her. Then buy the $45 AMD 5x86 133 and unsolder the old............ OR talk to the 2 or 3 laptop upgrade companies .....I believe that two of them even lurk around here. pepsales?? The official prices for the 50 and 75Mhz boards are amusing Note: your cost could very low if you can find an old board. BTW don't expect a big improvement . You have no external cache so don't believe anyone quoting much more than 20% SYSTEM Performance improvement. Visit gainberry(sp?) on the web, they show an honest benchmark. Contact these people IBM's factory oulet; they sometimes have parts and > Netstream International ;are also on the web ??? > (972) 664-0383 > (972) 664-0384 (Fax) and: http://www.indexcomputer.com Do a dejanews search for IBM parts ...peter... ---------- From: Connie McCutcheon[SMTP:cmccutch@city.north-york.on.ca] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 1997 11:09 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755C Processor Upgrades Can anyone recommend a processor upgrade for a ThinkPad 755C (DX4-75) and where they can be obtained. Thanks, C. McCutcheon From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 18:11:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA108419908; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:11:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06232; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:09:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:02:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05202; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:02:24 -0500 Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk (mercury.ukc.ac.uk [129.12.21.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05168; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:02:03 -0500 Received: from stork.ukc.ac.uk by mercury.ukc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:00:49 +0000 Received: from slip1d81.ukc.ac.uk by stork.ukc.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/UKC-2.14) id XAA17584; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:00:46 GMT Message-Id: <331F4D7B.2681@ukc.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 23:04:27 +0000 From: Angus Reply-To: afh1@ukc.ac.uk Organization: blah X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 755C Processor Upgrades References: <01BC2A3C.C4314960@ppp11.Triumf.CA> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu peter machule wrote: > > I believe this one had an official upgrade path in form of a small pc board > with a 75Mhz DX-4 on it. > Of course you already have it (grin). > Your best bet is therefore to find some kind soul who has done this and > beg the the old 50Mhz version of him/her. > Then buy the $45 AMD 5x86 133 and unsolder the old............ I *heard* that TP's use surface mount chips. I was considering an upgrade but that kinda put me off. I guess that AMD are going to charge more for the surface mount 5x86 too. Still - if you know someone who's got the tools for doing surface mount work then that's a neat idea. > OR talk to the 2 or 3 laptop upgrade companies .....I believe that two of > them even lurk around here. pepsales?? They charge about $300-400 last time I checked. Seems expensive for fitting a chip that costs $45, but they got their reasons. > The official prices for the 50 and 75Mhz boards are amusing > Note: your cost could very low if you can find an old board. Well I'm happy to swap my 50MHz board for your 75MHz - well of course I'd pay a bit! But I don't see why the 'extra' board is needed except for in case 'something goes wrong'... > BTW don't expect a big improvement . You have no external cache so don't > believe anyone quoting much more than 20% SYSTEM Performance improvement. With a 133MHz chip versus a 75MHz? Even if you have plenty of RAM for the OS you are using? Angus Hewlett ----------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 6 19:49:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA127915750; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:49:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12002; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:19:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:12:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11486; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:12:33 -0500 Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA ([142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11463; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:12:18 -0500 Received: from ppp11.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 06 Mar 1997 16:09:57 PST Received: by ppp11.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC2A49.00F0EDE0@ppp11.Triumf.CA>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:11:09 -0800 Message-Id: <01BC2A49.00F0EDE0@ppp11.Triumf.CA> From: peter machule To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: 755C Processor Upgrades Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:10:41 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ---------- From: Angus[SMTP:afh1@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 1997 3:04 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 755C Processor Upgrades peter machule wrote: >=20 > I believe this one had an official upgrade path in form of a small pc = board > with a 75Mhz DX-4 on it. > Of course you already have it (grin). > Your best bet is therefore to find some kind soul who has done this = and > beg the the old 50Mhz version of him/her. > Then buy the $45 AMD 5x86 133 and unsolder the old............ I *heard* that TP's use surface mount chips. I was considering an upgrade but that kinda put me off. I guess that AMD are going to charge more for the surface mount 5x86 too. Still - if you know someone who's got the tools for doing surface mount work then that's a neat idea. Yes the TP's use a surface mount cpu. Last time I checked the AMD=20 surface mount version was $10 more?? It will have more to do with supply and demand than an official price list. > OR talk to the 2 or 3 laptop upgrade companies .....I believe that two = of > them even lurk around here. pepsales?? They charge about $300-400 last time I checked. Seems expensive for fitting a chip that costs $45, but they got their reasons. =20 TP motherboards cost $600 to $1200 or more . This is for the 486 = versions.So whatyour paying for is labour and "oops"insurance.....plus = profit. ;-} > The official prices for the 50 and 75Mhz boards are amusing > Note: your cost could very low if you can find an old board. Well I'm happy to swap my 50MHz board for your 75MHz - well of course I'd pay a bit! But I don't see why the 'extra' board is needed except for in case 'something goes wrong'... That is why you want to do it this way. !! =20 > BTW don't expect a big improvement . You have no external cache so = don't > believe anyone quoting much more than 20% SYSTEM Performance = improvement. With a 133MHz chip versus a 75MHz? Even if you have plenty of RAM for the OS you are using? The AMD will only run @100 Mhz since the Motherboard clock appears to be = fixed at 25 Mhz. The reason to use the 133Mhz rated part is for lower = power consumption and it usually doesn't cost more. Also it appears that both = the=20 701 and the 755 do NOT implement the Write Back cache capability of the i486 DX4-75. Sticking in the AMD won't change that. Software might = though. If someone knows otherwise re WB cache I'd love to hear so. again see Gainberry (whose www address I can't find now...sigh) ...peter.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 7 00:27:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA177352454; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 00:27:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06755; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 00:21:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 7 Mar 1997 00:17:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06315; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 00:17:08 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06305; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 00:17:03 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-j-47.usc.edu [128.125.224.191]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id VAA27601; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 21:16:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970306190256.01683540@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 21:17:51 -0800 To: "Jon Cleary" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: The icons everyone wants! Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 06:49 PM 3/6/97 -0000, Jon Cleary wrote: >Here they are :o) > >Jon >Attachment Converted: "D:\Internet\EUDORA32\Attach\TPIcons.dll" Hey Jon, that's real nice of you! Thanks... Now a question: How do I access/use this .dll file to change the "My Computer" icon, etc.? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 7 01:25:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA186845922; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:25:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10250; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:24:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:19:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09899; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:19:22 -0500 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09888; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:19:15 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA20664 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:18:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:18:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970307011837_851741462@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: FW: TP Icons Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I had trouble downloading the icons. Can anyone send it to me from another source, other than SpryNet, to see if that works? Thanks. Regards, Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 7 07:03:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA236836185; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 07:03:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA08967; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 06:58:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 7 Mar 1997 06:54:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA08605; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 06:54:35 -0500 Received: from columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be (columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be [130.104.14.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA08595; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 06:54:28 -0500 Received: from columbia (unverified [130.104.14.58]) by columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Fri, 07 Mar 1997 12:57:14 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970307135714.0094b91c@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be> X-Sender: myself@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 12:57:14 -0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Alain Jacques Subject: TP MWAVE and NT Fax preview 2 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm trying to install MS Fax preview 2 for NT on a TP760ED. The driver is supposed to work with class 1 fax devices. During the installation, the internal Mwave fax/modem is not recognized. Does anyone know if Mwave is class 1 compliant ... or 'only' class 2, or a clue to solve this problem? BTW an external (Boca) fax/modem is perfectly recognized by the fax services. Regards, Alain From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 7 07:11:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA237966680; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 07:11:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09820; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 07:06:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 7 Mar 1997 07:04:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09527; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 07:04:35 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch ([193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09502; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 07:04:19 -0500 Received: from andrew.samara.co.zw ([196.11.40.21]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11802 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:03:57 +0100 (MET) Received: by andrew.samara.co.zw with Microsoft Mail id <01BC2AF7.7103E2A0@andrew.samara.co.zw>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 12:59:50 -0000 Message-Id: <01BC2AF7.7103E2A0@andrew.samara.co.zw> From: Andrew Richards To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: 3Com Etherlink III cards Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:50:37 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, Some good news: Having long struggled with a cheapo NE2000 PCMCIA Ethernet card clone 'Edimax' (worked with my 701 in Windows 95 after massive fiddling; no problems with Linux; causes crashes with my new Texas replacement for the 701 - that's another story)... ...I bought a 3Com Etherlink III card by way of a replacement. To my mind, not very expensive, I was surprised when it was delivered as card, transceiver and cable - no drivers. So I plugged it into my laptop with Windows 95, it recognised it, automatically installed the driver _and_ _it_ _works_! I'll be throwing Linux at it shortly, but I'm confident it'll work having seen some of the messages other members of the list have sent. So now I know what I'll consider first for an Ethernet card. Anyone in Switzerland not running Windows 95 that wants an NE2000 card? cheers, Andrew. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 7 09:17:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA258674244; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:17:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20559; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:16:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:12:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20208; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:12:39 -0500 Received: from mail-gw3.pacbell.net (mail-gw3.pacbell.net [206.13.28.55]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20192; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:12:33 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-117-196.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.117.196]) by mail-gw3.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id GAA08316; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 06:12:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703071412.GAA08316@mail-gw3.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Andrew Richards" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: 3Com Etherlink III cards - For Sale Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 06:12:30 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am selling an 3COM PC Card Ethernet/33.6 Modem combination and PCI Ethernet card. This setup worked good to link my laptop to my desktop with coax cable, but I have upgraded to 100 Mbit ethernet. Below are the two postings I have been making. ----------------- 3COM Ethernet/Modem PC Card -- $220 - Model 3C562B-Combo - Does both 10Base-T and 10Base-2 (Coax) - Lifetime 3COM Warranty - Not a scratch, dent, or ding - Opened, but still in original box Includes: - Extra telephony dongle - Manual - Driver Disk - Receipt See http://www.3com.com for more info. Prices other people want for this same model card: $379: http://www.elektek.com/ViewProd.htm?PID=212069&UID=3365%2D43750%2D573&CID= Price includes UPS ground shipping and COD to US addresses. ------------------------ 3COM Ethernet Combo PCI Card -- $60 - Model 3C590-Combo - Does 10Base-T, 10Base-2 (Coax), and AUI - Lifetime 3COM Warranty - Not a scratch, dent, or ding - Opened, but still in original box Includes: - Manual - Driver Disk - Receipt See http://www.3com.com for more info. Prices other people want for this same model card: $140: http://www.cdw.com/cgi-bin/cdwinformation.exe?EDC=52203 $150: http://www.elektek.com/ViewProd.htm?PID=998255&UID=3365%2D43750%2D573&CID= Price includes UPS ground shipping and COD to US addresses. ---------- > ...I bought a 3Com Etherlink III card by way of a replacement. To my mind, > not very expensive, I was surprised when it was delivered as card, transceiver > and cable - no drivers. So I plugged it into my laptop with Windows 95, it > recognised it, automatically installed the driver _and_ _it_ _works_! I'll > be throwing Linux at it shortly, but I'm confident it'll work having seen some > of the messages other members of the list have sent. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 7 11:45:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA286763104; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:45:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07008; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:43:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:39:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06344; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:39:43 -0500 Received: from mail3.voicenet.com (mail3.voicenet.com [207.103.0.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06324; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:39:37 -0500 Received: from tp755cd (philly130.voicenet.com [207.103.16.209]) by mail3.voicenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA09802; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:36:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970307113236.006b4ef4@voicenet.com> X-Sender: alans@voicenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 8 (32) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 11:32:36 -0500 To: Randy Whittle , "Jon Cleary" From: Alan Sukiennik Subject: Re: The icons everyone wants! Cc: In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970306190256.01683540@scf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 09:17 PM 3/6/97 -0800, Randy Whittle wrote: >At 06:49 PM 3/6/97 -0000, Jon Cleary wrote: >>Here they are :o) >> >>Jon >>Attachment Converted: "D:\Internet\EUDORA32\Attach\TPIcons.dll" > > Hey Jon, that's real nice of you! Thanks... > > Now a question: How do I access/use this .dll file to change the "My >Computer" icon, etc.? > There is a neat little shareware utility out there called Microangelo that allows you to change a lot of desktop "things" through GUI interface without editing the registry (search for "My Computer" and change properties). I believe you can find it on http://www.windows95.com. -Alan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 7 13:57:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA018721060; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:57:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20257; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:55:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:51:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19908; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:51:24 -0500 Received: from columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be (columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be [130.104.14.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19891; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:51:16 -0500 Received: from columbia (unverified [130.104.14.58]) by columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Fri, 07 Mar 1997 19:54:11 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970307205410.00959910@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be> X-Sender: myself@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 19:54:10 -0100 To: Richard Chalk From: Alain Jacques Subject: Re: TP MWAVE and NT Fax preview 2 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:46 07/03/97 -0500, you wrote: >If the installation of MWave was working OK as a regular modem, then try >selecting the modem manually, rather than having the program look for it. > >Make sure you set up the ports i/o and IRQ manually, as in the README.TXT >file for MWave install on WindowsNT. > >Hope this helps... Thanks for the reply ... but doesn't help. My Mwave system is working under NT. The Unimodem driver is installed, I'm using it for RAS connection ... no problem with it. When I installed the NT fax preview version 2 from Micro$osft, the corresponding setup doesn't recognize the Mwave system as a class 1 fax device. There is no 'manual' way to override this. The setup simply says 'No class 1 fax detected' ... bye,bye that's all folks. Then I had a look on IBM docs ... no mention about the fact that Mwave is or is not class 1 or class 2 compliant. So, does anyone know how to recognize a class 1 fax system i.e. what are the correponding AT commands? Or if someone has installed a fax utility software on a Mwave ThinkPad system, under which category the Mwave fax is recognized? Regards, Alain From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 7 16:11:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA052219083; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:11:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03184; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:07:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:02:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02866; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:02:47 -0500 Received: from alpha.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.18.143]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02855; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:02:37 -0500 Received: from pop2b.mail.mci.com ([166.37.204.3]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.5/) with ESMTP id OAA29301; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 14:01:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from pop1a.mail.mci.com (pop1a.mail.mci.com [166.37.204.5]) by pop2b.mail.mci.com (8.8.5/) with ESMTP id PAA07928; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:01:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from gginsberg.metro.mci.com ([166.32.99.36]) by pop1a.mail.mci.com (post.office MTA v2.1 0910 ID# 0-10275) with SMTP id AAA25079; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:01:18 -0600 Received: by gginsberg.metro.mci.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC2B10.CA90F560@gginsberg.metro.mci.com>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:01:17 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC2B10.CA90F560@gginsberg.metro.mci.com> From: "Gregg Ginsberg" To: "'Alain Jacques'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: TP MWAVE and NT Fax preview 2 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:03:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu IBM's doc file for installing NT 4.0 on Thinkpads mentions that the = MWAVE driver is currently Class 2 compliant only. NT Personal Fax only = supports Class One...... Get the file at: ftp://204.146.167.81/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/tpwint40.txt = and take a look at "2.1.8.2 Tips for Mwave/DSP Feature program" > o Currently, the following features are not provided: > > - Speaker phone/answering machine > - SoundBlaster game support > - Class-1 FAX -----Original Message----- From: Alain Jacques [SMTP:jacques@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be] Sent: Friday, March 07, 1997 3:06 PM To: Richard Chalk Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP MWAVE and NT Fax preview 2 At 08:46 07/03/97 -0500, you wrote: >If the installation of MWave was working OK as a regular modem, then = try >selecting the modem manually, rather than having the program look for = it. > >Make sure you set up the ports i/o and IRQ manually, as in the = README.TXT >file for MWave install on WindowsNT. > >Hope this helps... Thanks for the reply ... but doesn't help. My Mwave system is working = under NT. The Unimodem driver is installed, I'm using it for RAS connection = ... no problem with it. When I installed the NT fax preview version 2 from Micro$osft, the corresponding setup doesn't recognize the Mwave system = as a class 1 fax device. There is no 'manual' way to override this. The setup simply says 'No class 1 fax detected' ... bye,bye that's all folks. Then = I had a look on IBM docs ... no mention about the fact that Mwave is or is = not class 1 or class 2 compliant. So, does anyone know how to recognize a class 1 fax system i.e. what are = the correponding AT commands? Or if someone has installed a fax utility = software on a Mwave ThinkPad system, under which category the Mwave fax is = recognized? Regards, Alain From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 8 02:14:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA168365273; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:14:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16669; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:12:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:05:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15838; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:05:40 -0500 Received: from mail-c.bcc.ac.uk (mail-c.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15814; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:05:33 -0500 Received: from dialup-6.ucl.ac.uk by mail-c.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sat, 8 Mar 1997 07:05:21 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970308070238.399f477e@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 07:02:38 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Windows NT Workstation or Server 4.0 on Thinkpads? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone run Windows NT Workstation 4.0 or Windows NT Server 4.0 on an IBM Thinkpad (particularly a 750 with 20 MB RAM & 2 GB HD)? Advantages, disadvantages, PCMCIA compatability, video chip support, sound chip support, and installation advice would be appreciated. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 8 02:18:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA168825497; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:18:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17258; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:16:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:13:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16732; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:13:01 -0500 Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16705; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:12:54 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id CAA23011 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:12:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:12:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970308021221_-1372623877@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows NT Workstation or Server 4.0 on Thinkpads? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I would have rather put NT Wrkstn. on my 701 than 95, but I have it on my "server". It has support for APM, PCMCIA, and most of the 700 series ThinkPads, but I don't know how it is performance-wise on a 755. Also, hardware detection is different than that of 95. Regards, Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 8 08:14:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA216626847; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:14:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17816; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:04:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:01:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17567; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:01:11 -0500 Received: from Arizona.EDU (Penny.Telcom.Arizona.EDU [128.196.128.217]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17549; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:01:06 -0500 Received: from spectra.Opt-Sci.Arizona.EDU (spectra.Opt-Sci.Arizona.EDU) by Arizona.EDU (PMDF V5.0-5 #2381) id <01IG8ZM5LQ0W8WWQI5@Arizona.EDU>; Sat, 08 Mar 1997 06:00:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from cx-p (cx-p [150.135.52.53]) by spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA01600; Sat, 08 Mar 1997 05:59:07 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 05:59:18 -0700 From: "Stuart F. Biggar" Subject: Re: Windows NT Workstation or Server 4.0 on Thinkpads? In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.19970308070238.399f477e@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> X-Sender: stu@spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu To: "Alexander J. Annala" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970308055918.23d7190c@spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT References: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 07:02 AM 3/8/97, you wrote: >Has anyone run Windows NT Workstation 4.0 or Windows >NT Server 4.0 on an IBM Thinkpad (particularly a 750 >with 20 MB RAM & 2 GB HD)? Advantages, disadvantages, >PCMCIA compatability, video chip support, sound chip >support, and installation advice would be appreciated. > > > > I have installed NT 4.0 (with SP 2) on a ThinkPad 755CX (P75, 40 MB, 810 MB HD). Not what you asked for exactly but ... I am really new to NT so I may not be the best one to answer your query but here goes: Advantages: Doesn't seem to crash as often as DOS/Win 3.1 but worse than Solaris x86 or OS/2. Networking works better than DOS/Win (ethernet with Dock II and dial-up PPP using built-in Mwave) and it is faster on the same hardware than OS/2 Warp Connect for things like ftp. Disadvantages: Not real fast, swaps a bit Crashes trying to run a DOS program that runs GPIB instruments (that program runs fine under Warp 3/4 or DOS/Win and should run under NT according to the vendor of the GPIB card who supplies NT drivers which include support for their PCMCIA GPIB card and drivers to run DOS GPIB apps under NT) - blue screen dumps Crashes unexplicably while running MS Office 95 (Excel/Word) but I'm new to them so ??? - blue screen No power management in NT - IBM supplies drivers for 755X/760 but I don't know about 750 Marginal PCMCIA support My IBM PCMCIA SCSI card not supported Sound/Video IBM supplied drivers for 3.51 and now 4.0 for Mwave Support for CX on the NT CD Installation I used a SCSI CD-ROM in a Dock II the 3C509B ethernet card - that worked fine. Note, the CX rarely crashes with OS/2 and with current patches for Solaris x86, it does NOT crash. (Not what you asked but it seems that the hardware is OK). I expect that you want as much RAM as possible, 20 will probably work but I expect you will see lots of swapping to that nice big disk. Good luck, Stuart F. Biggar Remote Sensing Group Optical Sciences Center University of Arizona Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu Phone: 520-621-8168 Fax: 520-621-8292 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 8 09:13:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA225390430; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:13:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22433; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:08:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:03:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22127; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:03:55 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22117; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:03:51 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IG90U9ETOG9GV6FF@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 07:03:48 MST Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 06:57:38 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: 365XD questions In-Reply-To: "Message dated Thu, 06 Mar 1997 08:02:03 +0200" <331E5DDB.7DA9@superonline.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IG91T42YBC9GV6FF@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > - Can't get rid of the fuel editor under W95. (I have read all over the > manual). It seems like the "TP features" program is lacking a feature > to turn it off, or at least make it invisible. On my 755 pressing Fn + F2 toggles the display on and off. There may be something similar on yours - look for a little battery drawn on one of the function keys. The real problem here is the "always on top" thing is set for this - some day I'm going to find out how to turn that off, which is my only real problem with it. On the bright side I still get almost two hours on my original battery in my 755 so I can turn this off without too much worry... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 8 11:13:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA243977605; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:13:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02450; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:12:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:09:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01995; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:09:12 -0500 Received: from lotus.lotus.com (lotus.com [192.233.136.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01985; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:09:06 -0500 From: Received: from internet2.lotus.com by lotus.lotus.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA26948; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:05:10 -0500 Received: from mta2.lotus.com by internet2.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00274; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:01:39 -0500 Received: by mta2.lotus.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (331.13 2-25-1997)) id 85256454.0058BCB7 ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:09:14 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LOTUS@MTA To: PAULKHOURY@aol.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <85256454.00586BFA.00@mta2.lotus.com> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:08:29 -0400 Subject: Re: Windows NT Workstation or Server 4.0 on Thinkpads? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Performance of Windows NT 4.0 on a 755 ( doesn't make what letter comes next !!! ) stinks !!! It was fine in the last beta but the GA degraded significantly. Switch to OS/2, Solaris, Linux or even Wind95 but not NT if you have a 755 class machine. These all run quite nicely ... PAULKHOURY@aol.com on 03/08/97 02:12:22 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: (bcc: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Subject: Re: Windows NT Workstation or Server 4.0 on Thinkpads? I would have rather put NT Wrkstn. on my 701 than 95, but I have it on my "server". It has support for APM, PCMCIA, and most of the 700 series ThinkPads, but I don't know how it is performance-wise on a 755. Also, hardware detection is different than that of 95. Regards, Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 8 15:10:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA281971808; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 15:10:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18412; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 15:09:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Mar 1997 15:05:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18178; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 15:05:47 -0500 Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18126; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 15:05:37 -0500 Received: from pentium (ld23-092.compuserve.com [195.232.13.92]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA20986 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 12:05:26 -0800 Message-Id: <199703082005.MAA20986@m1.sprynet.com> From: "Jon Cleary" To: Subject: The Icons Everyone Wants Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:05:53 -0000 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry for the delay.... I have finally found something which will help those without the Plus! Pack use the .DLL I've provided. Go to the MS website on this address: http://www.microsoft.com/truetype/grayscal/smoother.htm and get the "Font Smoothing Update" (w95gray.exe). As well as smoothing larger fonts rather than having jagged edges, it will give you a tab, in the display properties, called "Plus!", where you will be able to change the "My Computer", "Recycle Bin" and "Network Neighbourhood" icons. Hope this helps! Jon From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 8 18:17:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA018463038; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 18:17:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02555; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 18:16:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Mar 1997 18:13:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02235; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 18:13:23 -0500 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02222; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 18:13:18 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA27382 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 18:12:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 18:12:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970308181246_-1372568338@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows NT Workstation or Server 4.0 on Thinkpads? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Plus, OS/2 has the memory managment, and Linux has the power of UNIX (being UN*X). NT is okay if you have the time and money to waste. Regards, Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 8 20:26:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA040760808; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:26:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11389; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:25:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:22:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10963; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:22:17 -0500 Received: from resudox.net (resudox.net [198.96.220.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10953; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:22:13 -0500 Received: from default (ts18-08.ott.iSTAR.ca [198.53.6.183]) by resudox.net (8.8.5/8.7.3/resudox) with SMTP id UAA23329 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:29:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3322109B.10F0@resudox.net> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 20:21:31 -0500 From: Philip Hogarth Organization: digIT Interactive X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: activex 3.0 on TP760CD/95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've been trying to install and run a game called Diablo on a Thinkpad 760CD, running Win95. The game calls for ActiveX 3.0 which can be installed from the Diablo CD-ROM. I've done that but the machine freezes up on a black screen when I try to run the game. The manual indicates that I may have to update display drivers but I can find no support at the IBM site or at Microsoft. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks. -- Philip Hogarth Partner, Director-Web Development digIT Interactive Inc. ************************************************************* "The Launch Machine". Experience our results at www.digit.ca. OTTAWA 613-820-4846 TORONTO 416-363-7938 ************************************************************* From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 8 20:58:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046002729; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:58:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13764; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:57:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:55:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13558; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:55:14 -0500 Received: from resudox.net (resudox.net [198.96.220.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13543; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:55:09 -0500 Received: from default (ts18-08.ott.iSTAR.ca [198.53.6.183]) by resudox.net (8.8.5/8.7.3/resudox) with SMTP id VAA23466 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:01:57 -0500 Message-Id: <33221855.56A0@resudox.net> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 20:54:29 -0500 From: Philip Hogarth Organization: digIT Interactive X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: correction to activex 3.0 on 760CD/95 question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I sent out a message earlier that stated that I've been trying to install and run a game called Diablo on a Thinkpad 760CD, running Win95. I said that the game calls for ActiveX 3.0 which can be installed from the Diablo CD-ROM. I've done that but the machine freezes up on a black screen when I try to run the game. The manual indicates that I may have to update display drivers but I can find no support at the IBM site or at Microsoft. What I meant was DirectX 3.0, not ActiveX 3.0. Sorry. Confused yet? I am. Anyone have any ideas? Philip Hogarth Partner, Director-Web Development digIT Interactive Inc. ************************************************************* "The Launch Machine". Experience our results at www.digit.ca. OTTAWA 613-820-4846 TORONTO 416-363-7938 ************************************************************* From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 8 21:14:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA048933687; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:14:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15267; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:14:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:11:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15117; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:11:39 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15098; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:11:32 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IG9QNYLBIO9GV91D@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 19:11:28 MST Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 19:04:44 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: activex 3.0 on TP760CD/95 In-Reply-To: "Message dated Sat, 08 Mar 1997 20:21:31 -0500" <3322109B.10F0@resudox.net> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IG9R8AOQVW9GV91D@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > 760CD, running Win95. > The manual indicates that I may have to > update display drivers but I can find no support at the IBM site or at > Microsoft. Go to ftp.pc.ibm.com and in the pub/pccbbs/mobiles dir get the file named 0listing.txt, then look at the lines of that beginning with vetpfw95 and vftpgw95 - these are the drivers you need and they are all right there in the same dir. Also look thru the listing file, mine's about a month old so maybe there is something newer, though these are from last Sept/Oct (not all that old yet). Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 8 21:23:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA050294226; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:23:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16258; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:22:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:20:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15917; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:20:15 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15892; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:20:09 -0500 Received: from user-37kb94g.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb94g.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.144]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA189184; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:19:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199703090219.VAA189184@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Philip Hogarth" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 08 Mar 97 21:20:05 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: correction to activex 3.0 on 760CD/95 question Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Direct X/Actixe X is not supported no the TP's. It may work, but, it won't be easy. You might want to try the driverd from Trident web site (if they have any for the chipset.) The drivers have to be writted to take advantage of the additional; fuctions. On Sat, 08 Mar 1997 20:54:29 -0500, Philip Hogarth wrote: >I sent out a message earlier that stated that I've been trying to >install and run a game called Diablo on a Thinkpad 760CD, running Win95. > >I said that the game calls for ActiveX 3.0 which can be installed from >the Diablo CD-ROM. I've done that but the machine freezes up on a black >screen when I try to run the game. The manual indicates that I may have >to update display drivers but I can find no support at the IBM site or >at Microsoft. > >What I meant was DirectX 3.0, not ActiveX 3.0. Sorry. Confused yet? I >am. > >Anyone have any ideas? > > >Philip Hogarth >Partner, Director-Web Development >digIT Interactive Inc. >************************************************************* >"The Launch Machine". Experience our results at www.digit.ca. >OTTAWA 613-820-4846 TORONTO 416-363-7938 >************************************************************* jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 8 23:55:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA074623349; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 23:55:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27116; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 23:54:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Mar 1997 23:51:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26917; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 23:51:24 -0500 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26902; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 23:51:15 -0500 Received: from cais.cais.com (rj@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/cais-andrew-jdf) with SMTP id XAA29070 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 23:51:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 23:51:11 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Iomega Jaz on TP701 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've been trying to hook up a Jaz drive to a TP701 using a Panasonic KXLC003, or whatever the PCMCIA card that comes wiht a KXL-783A is called. I have the Jaz connected to the card and the CDROM connected to the Jaz. I set the terminator on the CDROM to ON and the Jaz is number 4 and the CDROM set to number 5. GUEST.EXE is run from a DOS prompt and the program returns with an F: for the drive assignment. I can then cd to the F: drive but if I try to do anything then on that drive the system hangs and must be rebooted!!! Has anyone successfully at doing what I'm trying to do or have any idea what I need to do to get it to work??? Thanks!!! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 06:34:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA137717256; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 06:34:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27134; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 05:31:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 05:23:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24500; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 05:23:10 -0500 Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24121; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 05:22:05 -0500 Received: from pentium (ld10-204.compuserve.com [195.232.6.204]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA03460 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 02:20:33 -0800 Message-Id: <199703091020.CAA03460@m1.sprynet.com> From: "Jon Cleary" To: Subject: Trident Cyber DirectX drivers Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:20:41 -0000 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BC2C73.8A488180" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC2C73.8A488180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have some BETA Trident drivers which are attached to this message. They may help Mr. Hogarth and are DirectX compliant. 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(cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06809; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 07:55:55 -0500 Received: from bernstei (BRIDGE25.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.57]) by lance.castle.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA12217 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 07:57:53 -0500 Message-Id: <3322B371.2772@castle.net> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 07:56:18 -0500 From: Michael Bernstein X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Warm plugging on 760ED with Win 95 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is "warm plugging" of the floppy and CD-ROM supported on the 760ED under Windows 95?  In the manual it only mentions OS/2 and DOS/Win (and at the FTP site also under NT) but no Win 95. I have tried swapping them only to have my machine lock up. If it is supported, does it require a BIOS or driver update?  I bought my TP brand new and tried it before I started putting software on it ("virgin" state) and never got it to work. Thanks for any help, Michael Bernstein From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 08:39:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA153134750; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 08:39:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10707; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 08:38:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 08:36:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10453; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 08:36:09 -0500 Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10441; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 08:36:03 -0500 Received: from pentium (ld46-154.compuserve.com [195.232.24.154]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id FAA09251; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 05:35:52 -0800 Message-Id: <199703091335.FAA09251@m1.sprynet.com> From: "Jon Cleary" To: "Michael Bernstein" Cc: Subject: Re: Warm plugging on 760ED with Win 95 Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:36:03 -0000 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ---------- > From: Michael Bernstein > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Warm plugging on 760ED with Win 95 > Date: 09 March 1997 12:56 > > > Is "warm plugging" of the floppy and CD-ROM supported on the 760ED under > Windows 95? In the manual it only mentions OS/2 and DOS/Win (and at the > FTP site also under NT) but no Win 95. I have tried swapping them only > to have my machine lock up. If it is supported, does it require a > BIOS or driver update? I bought my TP brand new and tried it before > I started putting software on it ("virgin" state) and never got it to > work. > > Thanks for any help, > Michael Bernstein DON'T DO THAT!!!!! You could damage your system board! (the TP has to switch between an IDE CD-ROM channel and floppy disk connector but cannot do that instantly, also dynamic driver loading for anything other than PCMCIA cards is not supported under Win95: it also has to dynamically change drive A:\ to D:\ ) Is there an external floppy connection kit for this machine?.... Jon From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 09:46:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA162388782; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:46:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15296; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:45:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:41:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14940; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:41:28 -0500 Received: from lance.castle.net (root@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14926; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:41:23 -0500 Received: from bernstei (BRIDGE1.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.33]) by lance.castle.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA17839; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:43:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3322CC26.6D6@castle.net> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 09:41:43 -0500 From: Michael Bernstein X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Cleary Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Warm plugging on 760ED with Win 95 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199703091335.FAA09251@m1.sprynet.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The system board supports it under DOS/Win, OS/2, and NT. Michael Bernstein Jon Cleary wrote: ---------- > From: Michael Bernstein > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Warm plugging on 760ED with Win 95 > Date: 09 March 1997 12:56 > > > Is "warm plugging" of the floppy and CD-ROM supported on the 760ED under > Windows 95? In the manual it only mentions OS/2 and DOS/Win (and at the > FTP site also under NT) but no Win 95. I have tried swapping them only > to have my machine lock up. If it is supported, does it require a > BIOS or driver update? I bought my TP brand new and tried it before > I started putting software on it ("virgin" state) and never got it to > work. > > Thanks for any help, > Michael Bernstein DON'T DO THAT!!!!! You could damage your system board! (the TP has to switch between an IDE CD-ROM channel and floppy disk connector but cannot do that instantly, also dynamic driver loading for anything other than PCMCIA cards is not supported under Win95: it also has to dynamically change drive A:\ to D:\ ) Is there an external floppy connection kit for this machine?.... Jon From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 09:50:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA163519027; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:50:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15828; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:49:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:45:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15339; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:45:50 -0500 Received: from PhoneLink.COM (fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM [193.195.138.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15313; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:45:43 -0500 Received: from freemuda.prod.PhoneLink.COM by fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM id aa10982; 9 Mar 97 14:42 GMT Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 14:45:06 GMT From: chaplin@emarkt.com Subject: Ports at rear of 760LD To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <090397144201000C.chaplin@emarkt.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This may seen a rather stupid question to the initiated but I request that someone may enighten me. I have a Thinkpad 760 LD with out manuals which I intent to order. Until this rrives perhaps someone can help. I have been examining the rear ports of the machine this afternoon and wish to know what they all are. I believe (from right to lft as I look at the machine from the rear are:- 1. serial; 2. parrallel; 3. video; 4. expansion and 5. (above expansion) unknown. There appears to be a position to the left of this which is blanked off. On examination of the drop down flap the blanked off plate appears to be for a midi/something. The unknown one shows a line with a broader part in the middle. Is this a modem? I look forward to hearing from anyone who can help. If it is a modem, how can I identify what is connected and what kind of leads would I need to purchase in order to use it. Many thanks. Philip For file attachments please e-mail first. -- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 10:27:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA168971240; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:27:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18937; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:26:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:24:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18640; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:24:00 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18628; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:23:56 -0500 Received: from user-37kb97b.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb97b.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.235]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA92796; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:23:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199703091523.KAA92796@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "chaplin@emarkt.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 09 Mar 97 10:23:57 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports at rear of 760LD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Don't remember the correct order but the large one is for an docking station and the small one is for an external flopy atachment. From what I can remember your TP does not support a MIDI/joystick. That is what the blank plate would hold on a 760CD/ED. On Sun, 09 Mar 1997 14:45:06 GMT, chaplin@emarkt.com wrote: >This may seen a rather stupid question to the initiated but I request that someone may enighten me. > >I have a Thinkpad 760 LD with out manuals which I intent to order. Until this rrives perhaps someone can help. > >I have been examining the rear ports of the machine this afternoon and wish to know what they all are. I believe (from right to lft as I look at the machine from the rear are:- >1. serial; 2. parrallel; 3. video; 4. expansion and 5. (above expansion) unknown. >There appears to be a position to the left of this which is blanked off. > >On examination of the drop down flap the blanked off plate appears to be for a midi/something. The unknown one shows a line with a broader part in the middle. Is this a modem? > >I look forward to hearing from anyone who can help. > >If it is a modem, how can I identify what is connected and what kind of leads would I need to purchase in order to use it. > >Many thanks. > >Philip > >For file attachments please e-mail first. >-- > > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 12:47:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA190829630; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:47:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28005; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:46:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:42:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27658; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:42:51 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27646; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:42:43 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-51.usc.edu [128.125.223.195]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id JAA05428; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 09:42:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970309092754.0158f908@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 09:43:38 -0800 To: "Jon Cleary" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Trident Cyber DirectX drivers Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:20 AM 3/9/97 -0000, Jon Cleary wrote: >I have some BETA Trident drivers which are attached to this message. They >may help Mr. Hogarth and are DirectX compliant. > >Jon >Attachment Converted: "D:\Internet\EUDORA32\Attach\w95-402.exe" Just wanted to verify--are these the same drivers that would work with the 560? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 13:20:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA197481633; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:20:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00200; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:19:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:17:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29895; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:17:39 -0500 Received: from wolfe.net (mail1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29879; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:17:34 -0500 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com (sea-ts2-p33.wolfenet.com [207.66.131.83]) by wolfe.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id KAA14637; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:19:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970309101724.006b4ac0@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: pele@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 10:17:24 -0800 To: "Jon Cleary" From: Peter Lewis Subject: Re: Trident Cyber DirectX drivers Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199703091020.CAA03460@m1.sprynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Jon, Speaking only for myself, I would appreciate it if you quit making a habit of "pushing" these attachments on all members of this group. I don't doubt for a moment that the material you send is valuable to and wanted by some members. But not all. Would it be possible to upload such data to an ftp site instead or make some other arrangement? I am not trying to be smart alecky here; I'm only asking for more discriminating distribution system. Thanks. Peter At 10:20 AM 3/9/97 -0000, you wrote: >I have some BETA Trident drivers which are attached to this message. They >may help Mr. Hogarth and are DirectX compliant. > >Jon >Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\w95-402.exe" > -- Peter Lewis pele@wolfenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 13:55:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA203813706; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:55:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02244; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:54:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:51:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02087; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:51:44 -0500 Received: from VNET.IBM.COM ([199.171.26.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02077; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:51:41 -0500 Received: from BOULDER by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 7336; Sun, 09 Mar 97 13:51:27 EST Received: by BOULDER (XAGENTA 4.0) id 3593; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:51:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by a1a.boulder.ibm.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17136; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 11:50:52 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 11:50:51 -0700 (MST) From: "Tony Apuzzo" X-Sender: apuzzo@a1a.boulder.ibm.com To: Peter Lewis Cc: Jon Cleary , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Trident Cyber DirectX drivers In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970309101724.006b4ac0@popserv.wolfenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Peter Lewis wrote: > Jon, > > Speaking only for myself, I would appreciate it if you quit making a habit > of "pushing" these attachments on all members of this group. I don't doubt > for a moment that the material you send is valuable to and wanted by some > members. But not all. I agree. No flame intended, but MIME attachments can be quite large, and it is a waste of disk space for most people, especially archives, not to mention a huge waste of bandwidth. My $0.02 would be _no_ binaries posted. Either offer to send to individuals, or simply post the URL. -Tony =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tony Apuzzo Internet: apuzzo@vnet.ibm.com VM: BLDVMA(APUZZO) ISSC Boulder, Colorado Phone: 303-924-1483 FAX: 303-924-1898 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 14:11:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA206864699; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:11:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03591; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:10:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:08:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03345; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:08:28 -0500 Received: from mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.143]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03335; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:08:24 -0500 Received: from etw-tp560.gsb.columbia.edu (bus205-118.gsb.columbia.edu [128.59.205.118]) by mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA18756 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:08:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970309134436.006a46ac@pop.columbia.edu> X-Sender: etw3@pop.columbia.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 13:44:36 +0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Eric Wong Subject: Re: DirectX 3.0 on 760CD/95 question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I am running Diablo on my TP560. I believe that this machine shares the same basic video card as the 760 (Trident 9385/9382), except without MPEG. Here are the steps I took to accomplish this. 1. Downloaded the latest TP560 video drivers from the IBM PC Co web site. 2. Downloaded the latest version of DirectX, V3.0A, from the Microsoft web site. 3. Installed the new video driver. 4. Installed DirectX 3.0A. 5. Installed Diablo. No errors and no problems. I am running with Win95A. Regards...Eric Wong. >Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 20:54:29 -0500 >From: Philip Hogarth >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: correction to activex 3.0 on 760CD/95 question >Message-Id: <33221855.56A0@resudox.net> > >I sent out a message earlier that stated that I've been trying to >install and run a game called Diablo on a Thinkpad 760CD, running Win95. > >I said that the game calls for ActiveX 3.0 which can be installed from >the Diablo CD-ROM. I've done that but the machine freezes up on a black >screen when I try to run the game. The manual indicates that I may have >to update display drivers but I can find no support at the IBM site or >at Microsoft. > >What I meant was DirectX 3.0, not ActiveX 3.0. Sorry. Confused yet? I >am. > >Anyone have any ideas? > > >Philip Hogarth >Partner, Director-Web Development >digIT Interactive Inc. >************************************************************* >"The Launch Machine". Experience our results at www.digit.ca. >OTTAWA 613-820-4846 TORONTO 416-363-7938 >************************************************************* From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 14:47:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA213646854; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:47:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06436; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:46:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:44:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06109; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:44:08 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06033; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:43:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA03613 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 11:43:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 11:43:35 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain To: Thinkpad List Subject: Questions about 365's Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm thinking of replacing my 755CX. Looking at the 365XD's. How's the performance on these? How badly are they hurt by not having a secondary cache? Is it halfway decent for gaming? Or should I bite the bullet and go with a 760? How well are Linux & Solaris supported on the 365 and 760? Important consideration: My 755 doesn't use the whole screen for 640x480 or 320x200. Will either the 365 or 760 do this? Thanks for any input you guys (and gals) have on this! /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 15:11:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA218428263; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:11:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08374; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:09:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:06:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08142; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:06:57 -0500 Received: from unix.asb.com (root@unix.asb.com [165.254.128.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08045; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:06:47 -0500 Received: from P1-72.SKYLANDS.NET (P1-72.SKYLANDS.NET [206.103.0.72]) by unix.asb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA21108; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:14:47 -0500 From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) To: "Jon Cleary" Cc: Subject: Re: Trident Cyber DirectX drivers Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 20:06:40 GMT Message-Id: <333416f1.22408272@unix.asb.com> References: <199703091020.CAA03460@m1.sprynet.com> In-Reply-To: <199703091020.CAA03460@m1.sprynet.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.383 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu While I'm sure some people find this useful, I neither have any interest in Direct-x nor Trident and do not appreciate having to pay for the extra phone time and having to sit and wait for the things to download to my computer. It is generally considered rude, arrogant and inconsiderate to place binaries on mail lists and news groups that are not specifically designed for them. Please just email them directly to those interested post the FTP site or a URL where those who want them can find them and do not subject everyone to having to spend the time and resources downloading something that they have no interest in and no use for. On Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:20:41 -0000, "Jon Cleary" wrote about "Trident Cyber DirectX drivers": >I have some BETA Trident drivers which are attached to this message. They >may help Mr. Hogarth and are DirectX compliant. > >Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 423B78C80FEA5495 CF64AD5F214797DE http://www.asb.com/usr/christij 95E3789C5679C4D7 03210B57E76FE66 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 16:02:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA227921332; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:02:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12571; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:01:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:58:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12285; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:58:56 -0500 Received: from mailsrv1.pcy.mci.net (mailsrv1.pcy.mci.net [204.71.0.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12264; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:58:50 -0500 Received: from usr9-dialup21.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net (usr9-dialup21.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-6 #10044) id <01IGAYM6GKI88WVZ8M@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:53:44 EST Received: from usr9-dialup21.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net (usr9-dialup21.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-6 #10044) with SMTP id <01IGAYIW5M3S8WVZMW@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 09 Mar 1997 15:50:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 15:51:59 -0500 From: Neil Ripston Subject: Direct X Cyber Drivers To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <332322EF.211E@internetmci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu He's probably got the message by now. Sincerely, Neil Ripston 760ED Owner While I'm sure some people find this useful, I neither have any interest in Direct-x nor Trident and do not appreciate having to pay for the extra phone time and having to sit and wait for the things to download to my computer. It is generally considered rude, arrogant and inconsiderate to place binaries on... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 16:31:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA234293073; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:31:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15390; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:30:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:26:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14909; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:26:53 -0500 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14899; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:26:49 -0500 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA27479; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:30:40 -0800 Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:30:39 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Parker To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Trident Cyber DirectX drivers In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970309101724.006b4ac0@popserv.wolfenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Peter Lewis wrote: > Jon, > > Speaking only for myself, I would appreciate it if you quit making a habit > of "pushing" these attachments on all members of this group. I don't doubt > for a moment that the material you send is valuable to and wanted by some > members. But not all. A simple "new Trident xxx drivers can be found at ftp.x.y.com/drivers/here" would be more than sufficient. I agree, pushing them out tp everyone in the mailing list isn't exactly the best thing to do. Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 17:04:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA242675049; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 17:04:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19232; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 17:03:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 17:00:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18906; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 17:00:24 -0500 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18888; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 17:00:17 -0500 From: Received: from evt-mx100-ip215.halcyon.com by mail1.halcyon.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/10Nov96-0444PM) id AA30099; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 14:00:14 -0800 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970309220052.006827c4@mail.halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@mail.halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 14:00:52 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Trident Cyber DirectX drivers Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:06 PM 3/9/97 GMT, Joseph wrote: >While I'm sure some people find this useful, I neither have any interest in >Direct-x nor Trident and do not appreciate having to pay for the extra phone >time and having to sit and wait for the things to download to my computer. It >is generally considered rude, arrogant and inconsiderate to place binaries on >mail lists and news groups that are not specifically designed for them. Please >just email them directly to those interested post the FTP site or a URL where >those who want them can find them and do not subject everyone to having to >spend the time and resources downloading something that they have no interest >in and no use for. > There is also the concern a lot of people have about receiving unsolicited .exe files in this day of viri and trojan horses. Please don't send this stuff to the entire list. Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 19:54:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA276455280; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 19:54:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02923; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 19:54:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 19:49:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02574; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 19:49:53 -0500 Received: from ns.interserf.net (ns.interserf.net [205.244.8.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02564; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 19:49:49 -0500 Received: from 169-99-49.ipt.aol.com (169-99-49.ipt.aol.com [152.169.99.49]) by ns.interserf.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA31425 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 19:52:50 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 19:52:50 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970309195200.3c57825a@mail.interserf.net> X-Sender: vicgonzlez@mail.interserf.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Vic Gonzalez Subject: Re: Questions about 365's Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was speaking last night to EZ-Serv and asked the guy if the 365s were having any problems, since I was getting ready to buy some for work. He told me that the 365X did not support DirectX and that folks who used them for directX enabled games would have their video and audio drivers corrupted requiring reload. For what it's worth. -Vic At 11:43 AM 3/9/97 -0800, you wrote: >I'm thinking of replacing my 755CX. Looking at the 365XD's. How's the >performance on these? How badly are they hurt by not having a secondary >cache? Is it halfway decent for gaming? Or should I bite the bullet and >go with a 760? How well are Linux & Solaris supported on the 365 and 760? > >Important consideration: My 755 doesn't use the whole screen for 640x480 >or 320x200. Will either the 365 or 760 do this? > >Thanks for any input you guys (and gals) have on this! > >/* > Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, > King County Library System | Code today, > PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow > */ > -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzLrCf8AAAEEANEL1//KVcF04uwigiWqAC/Pnl73jMHB2fzDggYbmvfRvzLZ 1f37qdHcvbIAcEyduKCMAcg279Lo+Xts79w2D07j8c+F0tGOuNnx2+ee6nE6cbT+ twV1+eqBvnribc8hBkfxKF11wZW3zfUX/wKRfWB0Jj/r9k8Z4ykzcunu+3e5AAUR tC1WaWN0b3IgTS4gR29uemFsZXogPHZpY2dvbnpsZXpAaW50ZXJzZXJmLm5ldD4= =bebi -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 22:31:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA004504671; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 22:31:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15538; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 22:30:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 22:26:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15178; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 22:26:21 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15165; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 22:26:16 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-37.usc.edu [128.125.223.181]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id TAA17507 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 19:26:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970309192705.0159daa4@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 19:27:14 -0800 To: TP List From: Randy Whittle Subject: Attachments Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu For what its worth, I think "large" attachments sent to the general list are uncalled for. But at the same time, reasonably-sized (i.e., small) ones shouldn't be a big deal. I for one was actually pleased to see the "TPIcons.dll" file, and it was fairly small. I'd hate to see a total "no-binaries" ban, as I think that is contrary to the helpful nature of the list for small stuff. At the same time, I'd heartily support a "no BIG binaries" ban. To me then, the remaining step would be to define "how big?" Small files that add only a few seconds to the download time of a mail packet shouldn't be a big deal. At the same time though, I'd object to a 500K file taking up my download time when its something I'm not interested in anyway. I'm sure there is a reasonable balance that would meet the desires of the majority. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 23:26:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA014797990; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:26:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19891; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:25:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:21:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19541; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:21:50 -0500 Received: from emout24.mail.aol.com (emout24.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19522; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:21:45 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout24.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA19249 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:21:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:21:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970309231526_-903307638@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Fwd: 755C Processor Upgrades Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Connie, We have the CPU upgrades for the TP755 systems and many of the IBM line. We can bring your system up to the AMD 5X86/100mhz processor which will give your system the equivalent response of the Pentium 75. We also have HDD upgrades for most of the IBM line through 3gb. This means that Total Storage Space can be 6gb - 3gb internally and 3gb in an External HDD Shell. I am sending our upgrade catalog for your system. Please contact me if you have any other questions or needs. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Forwarded Message======== Subj: 755C Processor Upgrades Date: 97-03-06 14:21:48 EST From: cmccutch@city.north-york.on.ca (Connie McCutcheon) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Can anyone recommend a processor upgrade for a ThinkPad 755C (DX4-75) and where they can be obtained. Thanks, C. McCutcheon --------------------- Forwarded message: From: cmccutch@city.north-york.on.ca (Connie McCutcheon) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: 97-03-06 14:21:48 EST Can anyone recommend a processor upgrade for a ThinkPad 755C (DX4-75) and where they can be obtained. Thanks, C. McCutcheon From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 23:50:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA018589446; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:50:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22194; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:49:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:46:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21833; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:46:31 -0500 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21821; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:46:26 -0500 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA37552; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:45:55 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:45:55 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: Jon Cleary Cc: Michael Bernstein , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Warm plugging on 760ED with Win 95 In-Reply-To: <199703091335.FAA09251@m1.sprynet.com> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You can swap the floppy and CDROM drive if you put the computer into suspend mode when you flip open the keyboard. You can't do it without going into suspend mode. On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Jon Cleary wrote: > > > ---------- > > From: Michael Bernstein > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Warm plugging on 760ED with Win 95 > > Date: 09 March 1997 12:56 > > > > > > Is "warm plugging" of the floppy and CD-ROM supported on the 760ED under > > Windows 95? In the manual it only mentions OS/2 and DOS/Win (and at the > > FTP site also under NT) but no Win 95. I have tried swapping them only > > to have my machine lock up. If it is supported, does it require a > > BIOS or driver update? I bought my TP brand new and tried it before > > I started putting software on it ("virgin" state) and never got it to > > work. > > > > Thanks for any help, > > Michael Bernstein > > DON'T DO THAT!!!!! You could damage your system board! (the TP has to > switch between an IDE CD-ROM channel and floppy disk connector but cannot > do that instantly, also dynamic driver loading for anything other than > PCMCIA cards is not supported under Win95: it also has to dynamically > change drive A:\ to D:\ ) Is there an external floppy connection kit for > this machine?.... > > Jon > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 9 23:53:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA019529612; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:53:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22673; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:52:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:49:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22161; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:49:29 -0500 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22151; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:49:26 -0500 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA29750; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:48:50 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:48:50 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: Eric Giles Cc: Tom Franklin , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New BIOS for Thinkpad 760E+ models In-Reply-To: <199703050442.WAA16833@ts1.netpathway.com> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Been using OSR2 on a 755CD for about 4 months with no problems. On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Eric Giles wrote: > Well, I have tried 4 different times to run Win95 OSR2 on my 760ED, but it > always causes random lock-ups and failures. I have tried installing with > FAT 16 and with FAT 32. I did not realize that some were using this on > their 760's without any problems, besides the hibernation (which I had > heard of, although it does not matter in my case). If I use Win95 version A > everything works perfectly. It seems from my experience that my problems > with OSR2 on the 760 were with the Mwave components. I would be interested > to hear if anyone else had problems such as this with OSR2, and if the new > BIOS fixes these problems also. BTW, I was using the most current BIOS and > the newest drivers when I tried the OSR2 install, the last attempt being 3 > weeks ago. > > Thanks for your help-- > > Eric Giles > ---------- > > From: Tom Franklin > > To: Tom Kustner ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Re: New BIOS for Thinkpad 760E+ models > > Date: Tuesday, March 04, 1997 10:00 PM > > > > After upgrading to the new 1.07 BIOS I was able to create a hibernation > > file with Win95 OSR2 on a FAT32 partition. I guess they didn't mention > > fixing that bug. > > > > The only problem was that when I restarted to get out of the hibernation > > mode, my computer locked up tight. I guess hibernation feature will have > > to wait. Anyone have better luck. > > > > ---------- > > <1.07> > > - (Fix) (Windows 95 only) Error pop up "1101" at power-on time when > > the serial port confugration is changed by the Device Manager of > > Windows 95 and the system is "docked". > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 10 05:17:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA074619066; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:17:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21372; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:17:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:11:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA20515; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:11:31 -0500 Received: from columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be (columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be [130.104.14.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA20445; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:11:22 -0500 Received: from columbia (unverified [130.104.14.58]) by columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 11:13:59 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970310121359.00940778@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be> X-Sender: myself@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 11:13:59 -0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Alain Jacques Subject: RE: TP MWAVE and NT Fax preview 2 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 16:03 07/03/97 -0500, you wrote: >IBM's doc file for installing NT 4.0 on Thinkpads mentions that the MWAVE driver is currently Class 2 compliant only. NT Personal Fax only supports Class One...... Thanks Greg, ... I missed this one. In fact MWAVE replies OK to AT+FCLASS=0 and =2 commands but ERROR to AT+FCLASS=1. Regards, Alain From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 10 06:37:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA085763866; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 06:37:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA02267; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 06:32:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 06:24:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01610; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 06:24:17 -0500 Received: from lance.castle.net (root@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01594; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 06:24:08 -0500 Received: from bernstei (BRIDGE76.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.71]) by lance.castle.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA12743; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 06:24:55 -0500 Message-Id: <3323EF04.39F2@castle.net> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 06:22:45 -0500 From: Michael Bernstein X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Hosseinof Cc: Jon Cleary , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Warm plugging on 760ED with Win 95 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have tried that. The PC automatically enters suspend mode when do any form of swapping. It just locks. I was told that this feature is (ironically enough) not supported under PnP enabled Windows 95 (see thread below). Joshua Hosseinof wrote: You can swap the floppy and CDROM drive if you put the computer into suspend mode when you flip open the keyboard. You can't do it without going into suspend mode. On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Jon Cleary wrote: > > > ---------- > > From: Michael Bernstein > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Warm plugging on 760ED with Win 95 > > Date: 09 March 1997 12:56 > > > > > > Is "warm plugging" of the floppy and CD-ROM supported on the 760ED under > > Windows 95? In the manual it only mentions OS/2 and DOS/Win (and at the > > FTP site also under NT) but no Win 95. I have tried swapping them only > > to have my machine lock up. If it is supported, does it require a > > BIOS or driver update? I bought my TP brand new and tried it before > > I started putting software on it ("virgin" state) and never got it to > > work. > > > > Thanks for any help, > > Michael Bernstein > > DON'T DO THAT!!!!! You could damage your system board! (the TP has to > switch between an IDE CD-ROM channel and floppy disk connector but cannot > do that instantly, also dynamic driver loading for anything other than > PCMCIA cards is not supported under Win95: it also has to dynamically > change drive A:\ to D:\ ) Is there an external floppy connection kit for > this machine?.... > > Jon > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 10 07:47:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA095468045; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:47:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06793; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:46:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:42:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06325; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:42:26 -0500 Received: from lance.castle.net (root@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06315; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:42:21 -0500 Received: from bernstei (BRIDGE24.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.56]) by lance.castle.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA15956 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:44:19 -0500 Message-Id: <332401B0.2478@castle.net> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:42:24 -0500 From: Michael Bernstein X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Wing IV on 760ED X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu  Since there seem to be people whoare bold enough to admit that they play games on their Thinkpads, I have a question. Has anyone sucessfully gotten Wing Commander IV to work on a 760ED? I am able to install the program without any difficulty, but when I go to play it (under WIn 95 full screen session), the movie runs slow and the sound is slurred. If I boot to "real mode" (DOS 7.0) then I get no sound because it appears that no drivers for the MWAVE are loaded. Thanks, From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 10 07:57:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA097098679; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:57:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07813; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:57:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:53:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07541; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:53:47 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07531; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:53:42 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id EAA00164; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:53:40 -0800 Received: from hi-av1.cadence.com(158.140.128.31) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma857998418.000161; Mon Mar 10 04:53:38 1997 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (sj4a-06.cadence.com [158.140.31.16]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA05878; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:53:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:53:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703101253.EAA05878@mailhub.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Randy Whittle From: Don Perley Subject: Re: Attachments Cc: TP List Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 07:27 PM 3/9/97 -0800, Randy Whittle wrote: >But at the same time, reasonably-sized (i.e., small) ones shouldn't be a >big deal. I for one was actually pleased to see the "TPIcons.dll" file, >and it was fairly small. Size isn't the only issue. Eudora (a fairly popular mail program) just dumps the attached file in my mail directory. After I delete the original message that attachment is still hanging around with no clues about where it came from. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 10 10:16:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA121116967; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:16:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20427; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:51:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:45:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19596; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:45:51 -0500 Received: from ms2.hinet.net (ufyc@ms2.hinet.net [168.95.4.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19559; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:45:39 -0500 From: Received: (from ufyc@localhost) by ms2.hinet.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) id WAA18928; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:43:34 +0800 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:43:34 +0800 (CST) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Connet TP760ELD w/ FUJITSU Dyna MO Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello everyone, I'm trying to get FUJITSU Dyna MO to work in Windows95. So far, I could see the MO drive letter in 'My Computer'. As manual said, the new MO should be initialized (partitioned) via FDISK in dos command prompt. But, it seems I couldn't find anything about the disk in the MO drive in FDISK. Any idea? Thanks in advance for any input ;-) Best Regards, -yc From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 10 16:13:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA224648416; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:13:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29187; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:11:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:05:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28589; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:05:30 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com ([137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28565; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:05:22 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id NAA02785; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:05:20 -0800 Message-Id: <3324770D.7C26@conic.lmco.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:03:09 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM Factory Outlet?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At one point there was an IBM Factory Outlet, but I can no longer find any reference to it on the IBM web page. Anyone know what happened to it? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 10 16:22:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA230348972; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:22:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00549; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:21:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:17:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29852; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:17:48 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29822; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:17:37 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id QAA19826 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:13:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA2308; Mon, 10 Mar 97 16:13:11 -0800 Message-Id: <9703110013.AA2308@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 52C36CABFF3ECE8A85256456007445B7; Mon, 10 Mar 97 16:13:09 EDT To: Tom Franklin Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 10 Mar 97 16:11:41 EDT Subject: Re: IBM Factory Outlet?? X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "... At one point there was an IBM Factory Outlet, but I can no longer find any reference to it on the IBM web page. Anyone know what happened to it? ..." ~~~~~ closed about six months or a year ago. i have no idea what they do with their refurbs now. probably sell them as new. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 'sharpei diem' -- sieze the wrinkle dog. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 10 16:31:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA235579460; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:31:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01466; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:29:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:24:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00813; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:24:47 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com ([137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00780; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:24:33 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id NAA03759; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:24:26 -0800 Message-Id: <33247B88.79BB@conic.lmco.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:22:16 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Verne/VENTANA Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: IBM Factory Outlet?? References: <9703110013.AA2306@lgate.vmedia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have answered my own question. They are still open at ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/misc/offering.txt This price list was posted 2/3/97. The prices don't seem that great though. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 10 16:34:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA237759654; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:34:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02003; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:32:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:27:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01236; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:27:51 -0500 Received: from gwa.ericsson.com (gwa.ericsson.com [198.215.127.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01224; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:27:43 -0500 Received: from mr2.exu.ericsson.se (mr2.exu.ericsson.com [138.85.147.12]) by gwa.ericsson.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id PAA26713 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:27:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (screamer.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.133.13]) by mr2.exu.ericsson.se (8.7.1/NAHUB-MR1.1) with SMTP id PAA14411 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:27:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from rpc1331.rtp.ericsson.se (pc257.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.136.2]) by screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id QAA00623 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:27:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199703102127.QAA00623@screamer.rtp.ericsson.se> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brett Pantalone" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:29:16 -0005 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: IBM Factory Outlet?? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There used to be an IBM Factory Outlet here in Raleigh, NC, but it closed shop about a year ago. There were really no bargains, but it was convenient for repairs. I don't about any others. I assumed that the shop was here because the IBM PC company is here. -- Brett Pantalone Staff Engineer, Ericsson Inc. pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 10 16:41:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA242090077; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:41:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03141; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:40:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:36:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02409; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:36:02 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02393; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:35:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id NAA22085; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:35:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:35:26 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain To: Michael Verne/VENTANA Cc: Tom Franklin , tp750 Subject: Re: IBM Factory Outlet?? In-Reply-To: <9703110013.AA2308@lgate.vmedia.com> Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On 10 Mar 1997, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: > "... At one point there was an IBM Factory Outlet, but I can no longer find > any reference to it on the IBM web page. Anyone know what happened to > it? ..." > > ~~~~~ > closed about six months or a year ago. i have no idea what they do with their > refurbs now. probably sell them as new. IBM has listings of refurbs on their web site. Here's an URL: http://www.financing.ibm.com/REFURBIS.HTM /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 10 17:35:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA276793353; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:35:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09417; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:34:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:29:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08830; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:29:25 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08732; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:28:59 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA17390; Mon, 10 Mar 97 12:28:37 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA05743; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 12:29:26 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199703102229.MAA05743@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: IBM Factory Outlet?? To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 97 12:29:25 HST Cc: tomf@conic.lmco.com, tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9703110013.AA2308@lgate.vmedia.com>; from "Michael Verne/VENTANA" at Mar 10, 97 4:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > closed about six months or a year ago. i have no idea what they do with their > refurbs now. probably sell them as new. They also use them to replace dead machines under warrantee. They sent me one a few weeks ago to replace my unrepairable 701. The replacement has since died as well. I remember when FIAT had a good reputation in the US. Then, a few years of bad quality control wiped them out here. One hopes that IBM won't follow suit. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 10 18:21:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA007576075; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:21:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14577; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:19:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:15:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14300; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:15:39 -0500 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14269; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:15:33 -0500 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA22216; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:15:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:15:01 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: Michael Bernstein Cc: Jon Cleary , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Warm plugging on 760ED with Win 95 In-Reply-To: <3323EF04.39F2@castle.net> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu All, I can say is that I do it all the time on my 755CD. On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Michael Bernstein wrote: > I have tried that. The PC automatically enters suspend mode when do any > form of swapping. It just locks. I was told that this feature is > (ironically enough) not supported under PnP enabled Windows 95 (see > thread below). > > Joshua Hosseinof wrote: > > You can swap the floppy and CDROM drive if you put the computer into > > suspend mode when you flip open the keyboard. You can't do it > without > going into suspend mode. > > On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Jon Cleary wrote: > > > > > > > ---------- > > > From: Michael Bernstein > > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > > Subject: Warm plugging on 760ED with Win 95 > > > Date: 09 March 1997 12:56 > > > > > > > > > Is "warm plugging" of the floppy and CD-ROM supported on the > 760ED under > > > Windows 95? In the manual it only mentions OS/2 and DOS/Win > (and at the > > > FTP site also under NT) but no Win 95. I have tried swapping > them only > > > to have my machine lock up. If it is supported, does it require > a > > > BIOS or driver update? I bought my TP brand new and tried it > before > > > I started putting software on it ("virgin" state) and never got > it to > > > work. > > > > > > Thanks for any help, > > > Michael Bernstein > > > > DON'T DO THAT!!!!! You could damage your system board! (the TP has > to > > switch between an IDE CD-ROM channel and floppy disk connector but > cannot > > do that instantly, also dynamic driver loading for anything other > than > > PCMCIA cards is not supported under Win95: it also has to > dynamically > > change drive A:\ to D:\ ) Is there an external floppy connection > kit for > > this machine?.... > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 10 18:33:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA016666826; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:33:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12979; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:04:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:00:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12347; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:00:21 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12307; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:00:13 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-b-55.usc.edu [128.125.222.55]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id OAA13272; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:59:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970310142226.015aa86c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:01:02 -0800 To: Don Perley From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Attachments Cc: TP List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 04:53 AM 3/10/97 -0800, Don Perley wrote: >At 07:27 PM 3/9/97 -0800, Randy Whittle wrote: > >>But at the same time, reasonably-sized (i.e., small) ones shouldn't be a >>big deal. I for one was actually pleased to see the "TPIcons.dll" file, >>and it was fairly small. > >Size isn't the only issue. Eudora (a fairly popular mail program) just dumps >the attached file in my mail directory. After I delete the original message >that attachment is still hanging around with no clues about where it came from. If that is your only issue, it can be fixed. Eudora can be told *where* you want attached files to be dumped, and also to delete files attached to a particular message when you delete said message. I use Eudora too. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 11 09:10:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA225449422; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:10:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26916; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:08:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:03:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26004; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:02:58 -0500 Received: from cny_fw.city.north-york.on.ca (cny_fw.city.north-york.on.ca [207.134.50.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25986; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:02:53 -0500 Received: from [204.138.232.80] ([204.138.232.80]) by cny_fw with SMTP (DuhMail/2.0) id JAA04592; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:03:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: cny_fw: Host [204.138.232.80] claimed to be city.north-york.on.ca Received: from CNY#u#3F#u#4F#u#EXT-Message_Server by city.north-york.on.ca with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:17:05 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:59:42 -0500 From: Connie McCutcheon To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Subject: ThinkPad hard drives Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know if the removable hard drives for the 755 and 360 are the same. Also, do hard drives for the "755" fit all 755's? I am considering buying one off the net and it is for a 755 or 360 (complete with caddy) and I would like to ensure it fits in my 755C as it would be difficult to return since I am in Canada. Thanks in advance, C. McCutcheon From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 11 09:24:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA227720255; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:24:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28538; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:22:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:19:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28116; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:19:09 -0500 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28098; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:19:03 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-117-2.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.117.2]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id GAA05437; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 06:18:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703111418.GAA05437@mail-gw.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Connie McCutcheon" , Subject: Re: Subject: ThinkPad hard drives Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 06:19:18 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu They are all the same. ---------- > From: Connie McCutcheon > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Subject: ThinkPad hard drives > Date: Tuesday, March 11, 1997 5:59 AM > > > > Does anyone know if the removable hard drives for the 755 and 360 > are the same. Also, do hard drives for the "755" fit all 755's? I am > considering buying one off the net and it is for a 755 or 360 > (complete with caddy) and I would like to ensure it fits in my 755C as > it would be difficult to return since I am in Canada. > > Thanks in advance, > C. McCutcheon > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 11 14:58:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA296400309; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:58:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29836; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:56:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:51:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29382; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:50:58 -0500 Received: from merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (cu18397@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29361; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:50:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (adw11@localhost) by merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA01494 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:50:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:50:46 -0500 (EST) From: Arthur D Woo Sender: adw11@columbia.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: EasyServ repairs In-Reply-To: <199703060611.XAA28148@rmi.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I want to thank everyone for their input, for both positive and negative experiences with EasyServ. I received my ThinkPad back today, after only a couple of business days in the repair center, as I was told, and everything seems to have worked out ok so far (my system board needed to be replaced.) Thanks again, Arthur Woo adw11@columbia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 11 21:51:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA091025080; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:51:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08697; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:50:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:46:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08437; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:46:28 -0500 Received: from emout03.mail.aol.com (emout03.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.94]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08412; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:46:17 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA05565 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:45:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:45:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970311214535_1780868059@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Attachments Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In a message dated 97-03-09 22:30:05 EST, you write: << Subj: Attachments Date: 97-03-09 22:30:05 EST From: rwhittle@usa.net (Randy Whittle) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu (TP List) For what its worth, I think "large" attachments sent to the general list are uncalled for. But at the same time, reasonably-sized (i.e., small) ones shouldn't be a big deal. I for one was actually pleased to see the "TPIcons.dll" file, and it was fairly small. I'd hate to see a total "no-binaries" ban, as I think that is contrary to the helpful nature of the list for small stuff. At the same time, I'd heartily support a "no BIG binaries" ban. To me then, the remaining step would be to define "how big?" Small files that add only a few seconds to the download time of a mail packet shouldn't be a big deal. At the same time though, I'd object to a 500K file taking up my download time when its something I'm not interested in anyway. I'm sure there is a reasonable balance that would meet the desires of the majority. >> I agree with Randy. I think that if someone has any spare time, to post up a README.1ST file to those who first subscribe to the list, stating rules about items such as downloads, flaming, etc. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 11 21:56:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA091745383; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:56:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09415; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:55:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:52:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09078; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:52:38 -0500 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09058; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:52:31 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA20906 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:51:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:51:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970311215035_1116205155@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Attachments Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Can anyone else send me the Win95 ThinkPad icon, besides the original sender? Everytime I tried to download it, my modem hung up. I have the 701cs DX4 version, AOL 3.0 16-bit, and am using the internal modem at 14.4. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 11 22:06:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA093445982; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:06:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10615; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:05:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:02:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10216; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:02:35 -0500 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10205; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:02:25 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA29774 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:01:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:01:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970311220018_-1104217744@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Subject: ThinkPad hard drives Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Basically, the hard drive inside is just a standard 2.5" notebook drive (I think around 20mm). I used to use a 355C which is related to the 755 series, and as far as I know, the drives are compatible with those two machines. However, you might want to check with the online store, or call IBM. Regards, Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 00:48:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA118855729; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:48:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23906; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:46:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:42:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23612; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:42:48 -0500 Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23601; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:42:41 -0500 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.184.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/03/03 3.23)) id AAA15533; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:42:37 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from thinkpad-755cx (cnc137041.concentric.net [206.173.215.41]) by newman.concentric.net (8.8.5) id AAA11846; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:42:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703120542.AAA11846@newman.concentric.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:51:32 +0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Compatibility Issue... Reply-To: phong@concentric.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Although I know IBM does not support Windows 95 on the old Thinkpad 720C, I thought I would pose the question to the group. Has anyone managed to get Win95 running on this older Thinkpad? I know that the PC Card chipset is not supported but is there a way around it? The machine is in great shape and still chugs along quite nicely so I thought it would be a waste if I still had to run Win 3.1 on it. Any ideas and / or suggestions would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks in advance, ... patrick P.S. And yes, I know I should probably use it as an extremely "heavy" paper weight! :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@concentric.net (613) 769-1544 Tel phong@connectinc.com (613) 728-4063 Fax From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 02:39:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA142842362; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:39:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00761; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:38:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:36:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00497; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:36:54 -0500 Received: from emout03.mail.aol.com (emout03.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.94]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00484; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:36:49 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id CAA02644; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:36:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:36:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970312023617_1217027146@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: cmccutch@city.north-york.on.ca Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Subject: ThinkPad hard drives Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Connie, You are correct - The HDD Caddy for the TP755 and the TP360 are the same HDD Caddy, and the drives for both are identical. The largest HDD available for both currently is the 3gb and, along with the External HDD Shell, the Total Storage Capacity can be pushed up to 6gb. We have complete user installable upgrade ShipKits for both systems that include everything you need, even installation instructions. Please contact me if you would like our upgrade coatlog for both of these systems. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: Subject: ThinkPad hard drives Date: 97-03-11 13:46:08 EST From: cmccutch@city.north-york.on.ca (Connie McCutcheon) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know if the removable hard drives for the 755 and 360 are the same. Also, do hard drives for the "755" fit all 755's? I am considering buying one off the net and it is for a 755 or 360 (complete with caddy) and I would like to ensure it fits in my 755C as it would be difficult to return since I am in Canada. Thanks in advance, C. McCutcheon From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 02:50:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA143893053; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:50:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01775; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:50:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:48:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01488; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:48:24 -0500 Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01478; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 02:48:20 -0500 Received: from c4rv.demon.co.uk ([158.152.168.2]) by relay-11.mail.demon.net id aa1128985; 12 Mar 97 7:42 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 21:48:29 +0000 To: Scott McDermott Cc: Thinkpad List From: Rajesh Varia Subject: Re: Questions about 365's In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 1.12 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In message , Scott McDermott writes >I'm thinking of replacing my 755CX. Looking at the 365XD's. How's the >performance on these? How badly are they hurt by not having a secondary >cache? Is it halfway decent for gaming? Or should I bite the bullet and >go with a 760? How well are Linux & Solaris supported on the 365 and 760? > >Important consideration: My 755 doesn't use the whole screen for 640x480 >or 320x200. Will either the 365 or 760 do this? > The lack of secondary cache does hurt the 365 a lot in processor intensive applications, esp games. If you have the money, I'd go for a model from the 760 range. Linux is well supported, don't know about Solaris. The 760 range does offer a 640x480 screen expansion (I believe its called presentation mode), but the results can be blocky at times. Best to try the games you wish to play before you buy. -- Rajesh Varia From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 08:30:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA194453431; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:30:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06296; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:29:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:26:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05997; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:26:14 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05987; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:26:09 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:26:07 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: Compatibility Issue... (TP720) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:26:07 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Although I know IBM does not support Windows 95 on the old Thinkpad 720C, I > thought I would pose the question to the group. Has anyone managed to get > Win95 running on this older Thinkpad? I know that the PC Card chipset is not > supported but is there a way around it? No idea, but: did you ever manage to get the PC Card chipset to work with an Adaptec Slim SCSI card? I have an old TP720, too, which is still in good shape and although it's by no means a speedy machine I'd still like to get the SCSI card to work. I tried various releases of both PC and MS DOS but no success... Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 08:36:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA195383807; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:36:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07413; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:36:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:33:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06912; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:33:44 -0500 Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no (hpserv0.cs.UiT.No [129.242.16.105]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06902; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:33:38 -0500 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/IOH-1.0) id AA045573611; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:33:31 +0100 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA003713610; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:33:30 +0100 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199703121333.AA003713610@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: Re: Compatibility Issue... (TP720) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:33:30 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Christoph Eyrich" at Mar 12, 97 02:26:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Although I know IBM does not support Windows 95 on the old Thinkpad 720C, I > thought I would pose the question to the group. Has anyone managed to get > Win95 running on this older Thinkpad? I know that the PC Card chipset is not > supported but is there a way around it? > Yes, Win95 will work on a TP720C but you have to use the 16-bit PCMCIA drivers from IBM. --Harald Skotnes From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 08:52:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA197994734; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:52:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08809; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:51:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:49:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08563; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:49:11 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08552; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:49:07 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:49:05 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Who knows Index Computer Remarketing Inc.? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:49:05 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does somebody know something about Index Computer Remarketing Inc.? They appear to sell pretty cheap TPs, amongst other brand hardware, as well as parts for current and old TP models. I've never heart of them before (which doesn't mean that much) but I'd like to know if one should be careful. Thanks Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 10:42:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA220471338; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:42:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20507; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:40:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:33:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19820; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:33:34 -0500 Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19810; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:33:31 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA16319; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:32:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from bos-ma5-03.ix.netcom.com(199.35.202.163) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma016301; Wed Mar 12 09:32:35 1997 Received: by bos-ma6-19.ix.netcom.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC2ECF.90FDEE80@bos-ma6-19.ix.netcom.com>; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:24:28 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC2ECF.90FDEE80@bos-ma6-19.ix.netcom.com> From: Kim Kwan To: "'Christoph Eyrich'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Who knows Index Computer Remarketing Inc.? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:24:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recently brought a video card for my TP700C from them. The interesting = thing was I talk to two different sale rep. and getting two different = price for the same item. Even more interesting thing was I talk to the = same sale rep. twice for the same item with two hugh different in price = (twice as much as the first time). Lucky the sale rep. remember me and = honor me the first quote. But, beside that, every thing else was = satisfactory. - Kim - ---------- From: Christoph Eyrich[SMTP:eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 1997 9:49 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Who knows Index Computer Remarketing Inc.? Does somebody know something about Index Computer Remarketing Inc.? They appear to sell pretty cheap TPs, amongst other brand hardware, as well as parts for current and old TP models. I've never heart of them before (which doesn't mean that much) but I'd like to know if one should be careful. Thanks Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 10:52:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA222271974; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:52:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21780; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:50:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:47:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21413; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:47:45 -0500 Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21386; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:47:36 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA18764 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:46:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from bos-ma5-03.ix.netcom.com(199.35.202.163) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma018736; Wed Mar 12 09:46:46 1997 Received: by bos-ma6-19.ix.netcom.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC2ED1.9CDE7B00@bos-ma6-19.ix.netcom.com>; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:39:07 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC2ED1.9CDE7B00@bos-ma6-19.ix.netcom.com> From: Kim Kwan To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: TP700C hard drive upgrade? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:39:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dose anyone heard of upgrading a TP700C from the ESDI hard drive to IDE = hard drive with a bios change? Is that possible? And who had done it? = Anyone has the connection diagram and bios code? Thanks in advance. - Kim - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 13:24:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA252501049; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:24:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06941; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:22:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:17:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06530; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:17:28 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06519; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:17:18 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-b-62.usc.edu [128.125.222.62]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id KAA19191; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:16:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970312071754.006b8b1c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:17:59 -0800 To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Who knows Index Computer Remarketing Inc.? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 02:49 PM 3/12/97 +0100, Christoph Eyrich wrote: >Does somebody know something about Index Computer Remarketing Inc.? > >They appear to sell pretty cheap TPs, amongst other brand hardware, >as well as parts for current and old TP models. If they are on the web, please provide a URL so we can all take a look! ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 16:08:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA284770886; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:08:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22689; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:04:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:53:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21620; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:53:53 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu (rho.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21600; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:53:45 -0500 Received: from GA-586DX ([128.97.149.28]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA38386 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:53:44 -0800 Received: by GA-586DX with Microsoft Mail id <01BC2EE4.5CF802F0@GA-586DX>; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:53:20 -0800 Message-Id: <01BC2EE4.5CF802F0@GA-586DX> From: Eddy Lin To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: ThinkPad 701C screen brightness adjustment & hotswap battery Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:53:14 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I have a TP701C (active matrix screen) and since I got the machine as = new, I've tried to adjust to brightness using the Fn keys but I see not = visible brightness change in the screen. The onscreen indicator does = change though. Does anyone have the same experience as I do? If not, I = think I want to call IBM and have them take care of that. The other thing is, the manual says that the TP701C battery can be = hotswapped if the machine is in suspend mode. Well, my does it in = MS-DOS, but when I am in Windows or Win95, it would power off the = machine. I am suspecting that the little standby battery in the machine = is dead but I can't convince IBM tech to admit it. The tech told me that = the TP701 can't do battery hot swap when the manual clearly states that = it can. I do have a 16MB SODIMM module installed though. Eddy From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 16:21:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA287101669; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:21:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24284; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:18:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:15:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24047; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:15:33 -0500 Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24030; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:15:26 -0500 Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA00548; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:15:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from juno.cns.vt.edu (juno.cns.vt.edu [128.173.12.34]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA18340; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:15:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703122115.QAA18340@sable.cc.vt.edu> From: "Dan Cook" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" , "Team OS\2 Help Desk" Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 16:15:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Dan Cook" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Virginia Tech's Registered PMMail 1.9 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Warp 4 on 365X ThinkPad Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu OK Gang I am just about at my wits end. First off, has anyone had any luck installing Warp 4 (aka Merlin) on an IBM ThinkPad 365X. This is the one without the CD Rom drive. I am not having much luck on this end. I have created the remote install disks, but it apparently doesn't see the PCMCIA 3COM ethernet card. It goes through the boot up and when it gets to the point "if no ELIII card detected will time out in 10 seconds". Then the machine stops, the drive a light still on, and I have to do a hard reset to gain control of the machine once again. At someones suggestion I downloaded the OBI files from IBM, but I guess they only work with an attached CD drive. Also in the bootup disks a README.INS says that for the 365ED to insert as the first BASEDEV statement a line giving new parameters. Did that with the same result. Am I missing something here? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I have had this machine now for 3 weeks and thus far it is nothing more than a $2000 game boy. BTW this is a machine with boot manager and Win95. The ethernet card works with Win95 so I know it is not the card itself. To save bandwidth you may E-mail me directly. Thanx, Dan Cook Va Tech / Communications Network Services 1700 Pratt Drive Blacksburg, VA 24061-0506 (540) 231-5270 wdciii@vt.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 17:35:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA003686114; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:35:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03150; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:33:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:29:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02749; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:29:47 -0500 Received: from ts1.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02719; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:29:38 -0500 Received: from ericgile (port11.netpathway.com [208.137.139.26]) by ts1.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA32303; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:29:34 -0600 Message-Id: <199703122229.QAA32303@ts1.netpathway.com> From: "Eric Giles" To: "Eddy Lin" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701C screen brightness adjustment & hotswap battery Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:35:36 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The brightness control on my 701c makes hardly any noticeable difference also. This is normal for this machine, as I have seen others note the same result. My 760ED brightness control does make a very noticeable difference, however. I can't comment about the battery problem since mine stays plugged in all of the time, and I haven't tried this. Eric Giles ---------- From: Eddy Lin To: 'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu' Subject: ThinkPad 701C screen brightness adjustment & hotswap battery Date: Wednesday, March 12, 1997 2:53 PM Hi, I have a TP701C (active matrix screen) and since I got the machine as new, I've tried to adjust to brightness using the Fn keys but I see not visible brightness change in the screen. The onscreen indicator does change though. Does anyone have the same experience as I do? If not, I think I want to call IBM and have them take care of that. The other thing is, the manual says that the TP701C battery can be hotswapped if the machine is in suspend mode. Well, my does it in MS-DOS, but when I am in Windows or Win95, it would power off the machine. I am suspecting that the little standby battery in the machine is dead but I can't convince IBM tech to admit it. The tech told me that the TP701 can't do battery hot swap when the manual clearly states that it can. I do have a 16MB SODIMM module installed though. Eddy ---------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 18:47:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA020680458; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:47:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09316; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:43:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:37:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08883; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:35:59 -0500 Received: from barney.usu.edu (barney.usu.edu [129.123.1.89]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08689; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:34:11 -0500 Received: from slppj.usu.edu (asy27.xy1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IGF6VXTE068YZGVT@cc.usu.edu>; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:33:40 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:30:31 -0700 From: Greg Alvandian Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701C screen brightness adjustment & hotswap battery To: Eddy Lin Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <33273C96.70CA@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <01BC2EE4.5CF802F0@GA-586DX> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Eddy Lin wrote: > > Hi, > I have a TP701C (active matrix screen) and since I got the machine as new, I've tried to adjust to brightness using the Fn keys but I see not visible brightness change in the screen. The onscreen indicator does change though. Does anyone have the same experience as I do? If not, I think I want to call IBM and have them take care of that. > The other thing is, the manual says that the TP701C battery can be hotswapped if the machine is in suspend mode. Well, my does it in MS-DOS, but when I am in Windows or Win95, it would power off the machine. I am suspecting that the little standby battery in the machine is dead but I can't convince IBM tech to admit it. The tech told me that the TP701 can't do battery hot swap when the manual clearly states that it can. I do have a 16MB SODIMM module installed though. > > Eddy I have had the exact same problem with my 701CS. And oddly enough I got the same response the first time I called IBM about it. I have sent mine in twice now and twice it has come back with the problem unresolved. At first the problem was somewhat intermittent and I was able to hot swap or perform a non-disruptive battery swap as IBM calls it, but that was only one or two trys in ten. Now it simply will not do it at all. I have also developed a new intermittent problem that is much worse. Ocassionally the machine will power off all by itself, and this is on AC power so it's not just the battery dying. I called IBM two days ago to send it in to easyserve for the third time and now I'm still waiting for the empty box to come. I should note the first time I sent it in it took almost three weeks to get it back and the problem was not fixed. The second time it only took three days to get it back, but again it was not fixed. As you can see I have had some very inconsistent responses from IBM and this is very unsettling. On the one hand I love this little machine aside from these problems, but on the other hand I've not had a very good experience with IBM support. Sure they're easy enough to get ahold of and they are quick to agree to have the equipment serviced, but their service leaves a lot to be desired. I guess the problem is they're just a great big beauracracy and one hand has no clue what the other is doing. Infact the first time I sent it in for repairs it sat there for several days because for some reason they couldn't find the documentation on what was wrong with it and never bothered to call me to see what the problem was. They just waited for me to track down the computer and manage to call the right people so I could explain it all over again. I hope this doesn't discourage you but I'd appreciate hearing from you if you have better results. BTW I'm not usually prone to long soap-box ranting like this, but this has really gotten to be a pain in the neck. I'm told that the machine has to go in for service four times before they'll replace it. Replace it with what? The 701's have been discontinued. Will they send me someone else's 701 that couldn't be fixed? I'd prefer to keep my computer if the problem can be fixed once and for all but they've supposedly replaced the top and bottom system boards, standby battery, and the modem already and upgraded my two batteries to Nimh so there's not much of the original machine left. Of course I have no way of telling if in fact any of these things aside from the batteries have actually been replaced. -Greg A. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 19:19:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA026522376; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:19:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11846; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:18:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:15:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11663; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:15:34 -0500 Received: from hoopla.mrl.nyu.edu (news@HOOPLA.MRL.NYU.EDU [128.122.47.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11641; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:15:28 -0500 Received: (from news@localhost) by hoopla.mrl.nyu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id TAA01037; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:40:23 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: news From: David Fox Newsgroups: thinkpad Subject: Re: Who knows Index Computer Remarketing Inc.? Date: 12 Mar 1997 19:40:22 -0500 Organization: NYU Media Research Lab. Lines: 15 Message-Id: References: <3.0.32.19970312071754.006b8b1c@scf.usc.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: hoopla.mrl.nyu.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Randy Whittle writes: > At 02:49 PM 3/12/97 +0100, Christoph Eyrich wrote: > ]Does somebody know something about Index Computer Remarketing Inc.? > ] > ]They appear to sell pretty cheap TPs, amongst other brand hardware, > ]as well as parts for current and old TP models. > > If they are on the web, please provide a URL so we can all take a look! http://www.indexcomputer.com/. Price list comes by e-mail. I bought a battery for a 755CE from them with no trouble. -- David Fox http://www.cat.nyu.edu/fox xoF divaD NYU Media Research Lab fox@cat.nyu.edu baL hcraeseR aideM UYN From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 20:43:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA042827423; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:43:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18808; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:42:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:39:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18322; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:39:20 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18312; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:39:16 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA26898; Wed, 12 Mar 97 15:39:14 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA11251; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:40:02 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199703130140.PAA11251@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701C screen brightness adjustment & ho To: eddy@ucla.edu (Eddy Lin) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 15:39:55 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <01BC2EE4.5CF802F0@GA-586DX>; from "Eddy Lin" at Mar 12, 97 12:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Eddy writes: > I have a TP701C (active matrix screen) and since I got the machine as = > new, I've tried to adjust to brightness using the Fn keys but I see not = > visible brightness change in the screen. The onscreen indicator does = > change though. As I posted here a couple of weeks ago, I recently had 2 TP701C units side-by-side; the screens were markedly different. One of them (call it Type A) did not vary at all with this control. The other (Type B) varied by a small but noticeable amount (and was also overall much brighter than the Type A screen). I've now had 4 different screens (2 on each of 2 different TP701s), 2 of type A and 2 of type B, and find the latter overall better. However: My first Type-A screen had no bad pixels, my second had one. My first Type B screen had 5 bad pixels, my current screen has at least 9! So, it could be that Type B has better brightness behavior, but worse quality control vis a vis bad pixels. Incidentally, I believe that as the years go by, the quality of replacement parts for these machines will deteriorate. Already IBM is using remanufactured (aka 'used') parts, and as they use up the best of these used parts they will have to turn to parts of inferior quality - I think this is why my latest screen has so many bad pixels. It might nevertheless have been the best they had around; the next customer might fare even worse. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 20:45:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA042997517; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:45:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18877; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:43:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:41:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18617; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:41:21 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18540; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:41:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id UAA06595; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:40:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:40:01 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Cc: Eddy Lin Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701C screen brightness adjustment & hotswap battery In-Reply-To: <33273C96.70CA@cc.usu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Eddy Lin wrote: > > I have a TP701C (active matrix screen) and since I got the > machine as new, I've tried to adjust to brightness using the > Fn keys but I see not visible brightness change in the screen. If you're on battery power, there is almost no difference. If it's plugged into AC, there is a noticable difference between bright and dark. -- John H. Kim jokim@tuna.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 12 23:50:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA076038611; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:50:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04067; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:49:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:45:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03659; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:45:45 -0500 Received: from pepvax.pepperdine.edu (pepvax.pepperdine.edu [137.159.8.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03643; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:45:38 -0500 Received: by pepvax.pepperdine.edu (Pep-5.3) id AA21690 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:44:27 -0800 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 20:44:27 -0800 From: Charles Dvorak Message-Id: <199703130444.AA21690@pepvax.pepperdine.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Bad experience with Index Computer Cc: cdvorak@pepperdine.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) >Subject: Who knows Index Computer Remarketing Inc.? > >Does somebody know something about Index Computer Remarketing Inc.? > >They appear to sell pretty cheap TPs, amongst other brand hardware, >as well as parts for current and old TP models. > >I've never heart of them before (which doesn't mean that much) but >I'd like to know if one should be careful. > >Thanks > >Christoph Eyrich >eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > I ordered a NiMH new battery from Index Computer for $115 plus $8 shipping. I was told they were in stock and would ship one that night. Two weeks later I received a NiCad battery plus a receipt for a NiMH. I called and asked for a correction. I was told they were out of stock on the NiMH (lie no. 1). Seems they should have told me that the day I handed over my credit card number. Then they told me not to worry the NiCad would work fine in my TP701 (lie no. 2). If they wanted to sell me a NiCad, they should have adjusted the invoice. If I wanted another NiCad I would have ordered it. Finally, I pushed the envelope and suggested since they were obviously covering somebody's ass, they should let me ship it back COD. Not their policy... Lost my interest there. You, Index, or anyone else can flame me - go ahead. Even if they credit my card, they were unethical in my case. I wouldn't buy from them. Charlie Dvorak cdvorak@pepperdine.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 13 01:05:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA089363158; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:05:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09710; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:04:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:01:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09527; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:01:42 -0500 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09514; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:01:37 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx27-03.teleport.com [206.163.126.68]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA26026; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:00:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:00:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703130600.WAA26026@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Eric Giles" From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701C screen brightness adjustment & hotswap battery Cc: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >The brightness control on my 701c makes hardly any noticeable difference >also. This is normal for this machine, as I have seen others note the same >result. My 760ED brightness control does make a very noticeable difference, >however. > >I can't comment about the battery problem since mine stays plugged in all >of the time, and I haven't tried this. > Mine too on brightness -I almost have to say there no difference. And same battery comment. BD From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 13 08:23:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA157959436; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:23:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21822; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:23:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:19:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21357; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:19:26 -0500 Received: from unix.asb.com (root@unix.asb.com [165.254.128.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21335; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:19:21 -0500 Received: from unknown ([208.201.75.37]) by unix.asb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA10911 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:29:23 -0500 From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Anyone dealt with D'Vegro Computers? Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:22:02 GMT Message-Id: <3328e8ba.10507871@unix.asb.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.386 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have seen their ads for over a year but have seen no comment either pro or con about either their products or customer service. They advertise on several " for sale" news groups. No web page that I know of and the phone number is North Carolina. They are listed in the on line Yellow Pages. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 423B78C80FEA5495 CF64AD5F214797DE http://www.asb.com/usr/christij 95E3789C5679C4D7 03210B57E76FE66 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 13 12:10:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA200263005; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:10:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18107; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:08:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:04:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17467; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:04:17 -0500 Received: from ts1.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17454; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:04:12 -0500 Received: from ericgile (port17.netpathway.com [208.137.139.32]) by ts1.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA07754; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:51:41 -0600 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:51:41 -0600 From: Eric Giles Message-Id: <199703131651.KAA07754@ts1.netpathway.com> Apparently-To: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu To: undisclosed-recipients:;@cs.utk.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 13 16:41:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA275479261; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:41:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16548; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:39:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:31:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15859; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:31:04 -0500 Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15823; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:30:48 -0500 Received: from presario ([207.147.203.98]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAA9324 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:28:28 +0000 From: "Ken" <97Pony@worldnet.att.net> To: Subject: TP365XD Question Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:28:19 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970313212826.AAA9324@presario> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Just bought a TP365XD (P100,8/810/CD-ROM) for a great price. But, the unit was a store demo and somebody messed up the Win95 system somewhat. I've pretty much repaired everything, but would REALLY like to reformat the HDD and start over as I don't use much of anything that came on the computer. Question is: I would like to reformat and reload with Win95B (FAT32). I recently did this with a TP 701cs and all went well. My concern are the drivers for the built-in CD-ROM. My Computer lists these as a Teac drive, but I don't show any Win95 drivers available on the CD-ROM. Sony, etc., is all I can find. Anybody know whether or not this will work?? Will Win95 self-install some kind of CD-ROM driver that will work?? Thanks in advance!! Ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 13 19:04:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA030457892; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:04:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00451; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:03:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:58:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29796; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:58:53 -0500 Received: from ts1.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29768; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:58:41 -0500 Received: from ericgile (port15.netpathway.com [208.137.139.30]) by ts1.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA12174; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 17:58:34 -0600 Message-Id: <199703132358.RAA12174@ts1.netpathway.com> From: "Eric Giles" To: "Joseph Christie" , Subject: Re: Anyone dealt with D'Vegro Computers? Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 09:57:43 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I bought my 701c from D'Vegro in October. He is very courteous and helpful, and everything arrived in the condition that he said. He prefers the transactions to be done by COD or personal check, as he doesn't accept credit cards. Others have commented about D'vegro computers in the newsgroups and everyone else has been satisfied also. The owner's name is David Grohowski (sp). Eric Giles ---------- > From: Joseph Christie > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Anyone dealt with D'Vegro Computers? > Date: Thursday, March 13, 1997 7:22 AM > > I have seen their ads for over a year but have seen no comment either pro or > con about either their products or customer service. > > They advertise on several " for sale" news groups. No web page that I know of > and the phone number is North Carolina. They are listed in the on line Yellow > Pages. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 423B78C80FEA5495 CF64AD5F214797DE > http://www.asb.com/usr/christij 95E3789C5679C4D7 03210B57E76FE66 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it > is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I > am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 13 19:15:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA033748516; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:15:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01479; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:14:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:11:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01247; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:11:04 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01227; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:10:55 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:10:42 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: Who knows Index Computer Remarke To: rwhittle@usa.net Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:10:42 +0100 (MET) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The URL of their price list is http://www.indexcomputer.com/index13.html Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 13 19:32:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA039319543; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:32:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03433; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:29:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:24:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03093; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:24:36 -0500 Received: from mailgate32 (mailgate32-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03075; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:24:28 -0500 Received: by mailgate32 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA16679; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:23:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199703140023.QAA16679@mailgate32> Received: from sdn-as-017castorp40.dialsprint.net(206.133.205.40) by mailfep4-hme1 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_10.1.1.10/Q_25153_1_33289a94; Thu Mar 13 16:23:49 1997 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brett Pantalone" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:18:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: TrackPoint buttons Reply-To: pantalone@sprintmail.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a 755CE, and recently I have noticed that it takes an unusual amount of pressure to make the TrackPoint (mouse) buttons register a click. Is there a safe way to clean the buttons (and keyboard), so that I can get back the original, quick response? -- Brett Pantalone pantalone@sprintmail.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 13 20:26:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA059992785; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:26:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04679; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:41:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:36:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04191; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:36:47 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04174; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:36:40 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA23706; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:31:36 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199703140031.TAA23706@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: Anyone dealt with D'Vegro Computers? In-Reply-To: <199703132358.RAA12174@ts1.netpathway.com> from Eric Giles at "Mar 13, 97 09:57:43 am" To: egiles@netpathway.com (Eric Giles) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:31:36 -0500 (EST) Cc: christij@unix.asb.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > From: Joseph Christie > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Anyone dealt with D'Vegro Computers? > > Date: Thursday, March 13, 1997 7:22 AM A few years back, I purchased some products from D'Vegro Computers. They have been in business for at least 4 years (before I came across them), and at that time I verified the merchant by checking with the local BBB. D'Vegro Computers works out of Raleigh, as I recall. My experiences with David Grow... (can't recall the spelling off the top of my head), the owner, has been excellent, and I would recommend DC, as a satisfied customer. If you are a local buyer, you can examine the product at their store/headquarters before paying for the merchandise. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@vec.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu world rejoiced. Try to live your life Virtual Endoscopy Center so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 13 22:39:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA101840782; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:39:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18351; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:38:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:33:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17935; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:33:44 -0500 Received: from camel6.mindspring.com (camel6.mindspring.com [204.180.128.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17916; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:33:38 -0500 Received: from user-37kb94e.dialup.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by camel6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA16815; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:33:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703140333.WAA16815@camel6.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Brett Pantalone" , "pantalone@sprintmail.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 22:33:16 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TrackPoint buttons Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Try can air & blowing any dirt under the buttons. Other then that wait to the fail & call IBM to get the KB replaced. On Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:18:00 -0500, Brett Pantalone wrote: >I have a 755CE, and recently I have noticed that it takes an unusual >amount of pressure to make the TrackPoint (mouse) buttons register a >click. Is there a safe way to clean the buttons (and keyboard), so >that I can get back the original, quick response? >-- >Brett Pantalone >pantalone@sprintmail.com jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 14 06:28:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA242988918; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:28:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01965; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:27:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:23:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01610; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:23:51 -0500 Received: from tor.abc.se (root@tor.abc.se [192.36.170.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01590; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:23:46 -0500 Received: from pm1-08.abc.se by tor.abc.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA17817; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:23:24 +0100 Received: by pm1-08.abc.se with Microsoft Mail id <01BC3072.84E47160@pm1-08.abc.se>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:23:27 +-100 Message-Id: <01BC3072.84E47160@pm1-08.abc.se> From: Peter Samuelson To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Thinkpad versus Tecra Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:09:11 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I remember a couple of monhts ago there was a discussion of Thinkpads = versus Tecras. Some Thinkpad owners had abandoned IBM in favor for = Toshiba. I have no intention to wake up that tread, but I wonder if = there is a similar list for Tecras as it is for Thinkpads. The reason for asking is that I have changed my longlived friend, 755CE, = for a Tecra 740 CDT with MMX and a lovely 13.3" screen. I couldn=B4t wat = for the 760X since I know, by experince, that deliveries of Thinkpads in = Sweden tends to be very, very slow. Peter Samuelson From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 14 08:01:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA269814495; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:01:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07817; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:00:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:56:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07356; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:56:02 -0500 Received: from cosmos.psc.sc.edu (cosmos.psc.sc.edu [129.252.32.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07337; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:55:55 -0500 Received: from flux.cosm.sc.edu (flux.cosm.sc.edu [129.252.40.13]) by cosmos.psc.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA01823 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:55:54 GMT Received: from localhost by flux.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id MAA00579; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:55:53 GMT Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:55:53 -0500 (EST) From: Waldemar Puszkarz To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Anyone dealt with D'Vegro Computers? In-Reply-To: <199703140031.TAA23706@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have nothing to add, but would like to ask: aren't his laptops a little bit overpriced. I got such an impression from his usenet postings. And the prices have not changed over the last several months. Any takers? Waldemar P.S. Months ago I visited a website that evaluates various laptop merchants. Grohowski was mentioned as a reliable one. I remember this since I was also considering buying from him. ----------------- Waldemar's List: www.netservers.com/~waldemar/list.shtml On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Dave Ahn wrote: > > > From: Joseph Christie > > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > > Subject: Anyone dealt with D'Vegro Computers? > > > Date: Thursday, March 13, 1997 7:22 AM > > A few years back, I purchased some products from D'Vegro Computers. > They have been in business for at least 4 years (before I came > across them), and at that time I verified the merchant by checking > with the local BBB. D'Vegro Computers works out of Raleigh, as I > recall. My experiences with David Grow... (can't recall the spelling > off the top of my head), the owner, has been excellent, and I would > recommend DC, as a satisfied customer. If you are a local buyer, > you can examine the product at their store/headquarters before > paying for the merchandise. > > Regards, > Dave. > > -- > Dave Ahn, ahn@vec.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the > ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu world rejoiced. Try to live your life > Virtual Endoscopy Center so that when you die you will rejoice, > Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 14 08:26:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA278126006; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:26:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08070; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:02:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:58:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07565; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:58:30 -0500 Received: from cosmos.psc.sc.edu (cosmos.psc.sc.edu [129.252.32.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07554; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:58:26 -0500 Received: from flux.cosm.sc.edu (flux.cosm.sc.edu [129.252.40.13]) by cosmos.psc.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA01808; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:46:45 GMT Received: from localhost by flux.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id MAA00576; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:46:40 GMT Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:46:40 -0500 (EST) From: Waldemar Puszkarz To: Peter Samuelson Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: Thinkpad versus Tecra In-Reply-To: <01BC3072.84E47160@pm1-08.abc.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There is some discussion group of Toshiba's laptops on their website. I have never participated in that so can't tell you any more than that. But it is unlikely that there is a list that deals with Tecras only. Hope this somewhat helps. Waldemar ----------------- Waldemar Puszkarz Waldemar's List: www.netservers.com/~waldemar/list.shtml On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, Peter Samuelson wrote: > Hi, > I remember a couple of monhts ago there was a discussion of Thinkpads ver= sus Tecras. Some Thinkpad owners had abandoned IBM in favor for Toshiba. I = have no intention to wake up that tread, but I wonder if there is a similar= list for Tecras as it is for Thinkpads. >=20 > The reason for asking is that I have changed my longlived friend, 755CE, = for a Tecra 740 CDT with MMX and a lovely 13.3" screen. I couldn=B4t wat fo= r the 760X since I know, by experince, that deliveries of Thinkpads in Swed= en tends to be very, very slow. >=20 > Peter Samuelson >=20 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 14 08:45:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA284157102; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:45:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11486; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:44:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:40:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11130; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:40:49 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11099; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:40:44 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:40:40 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: TP700C hard drive upgrade? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:40:39 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Theoretically, this shouldn't be possible. The ESDI disks (the 720 got them too) feature their own built-in controller. Unless there is a work around (of which I've never heard), you got yo buy one of these expensive larger drives... Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > > Dose anyone heard of upgrading a TP700C from the ESDI hard drive to IDE = > hard drive with a bios change? Is that possible? And who had done it? = > Anyone has the connection diagram and bios code? Thanks in advance. > > - Kim - > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 14 10:51:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA028184701; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:51:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25295; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:48:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:44:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24713; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:44:43 -0500 Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24700; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:44:38 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA11410 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:44:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from bst-ma14-06.ix.netcom.com(207.94.107.134) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma011176; Fri Mar 14 09:43:33 1997 Received: by bos-ma6-19.ix.netcom.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC3063.74806B80@bos-ma6-19.ix.netcom.com>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:35:37 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC3063.74806B80@bos-ma6-19.ix.netcom.com> From: Kim Kwan To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Who knows Index Computer Remarke Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:35:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu One more thing I want to add about their price list, they are bogus = lies. I come across twice that the price on the list are not what they = have for offer. For instant, the thinkpad video card listed $15 for all = models, when I ask them which one is for $15, they would not answer me = but ask me back which model I want and quoted $120 - $140 - $60 in three = different times with two different sale rep. Yesterday, I saw a docking = station listed around $40 (I cannot remember exactly) and I call them to = confirm, they said the price is over $300 not around $40. I wasted my = long distance toll. I done business with them once as I stated in my = last post, but I will not doing business with them any more. Dishonesty = is intolerable in the business world! ---------- From: Christoph Eyrich[SMTP:eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 1997 8:10 PM To: rwhittle@usa.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Who knows Index Computer Remarke The URL of their price list is http://www.indexcomputer.com/index13.html Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 14 12:08:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA057599338; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:08:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06454; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:06:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:01:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05551; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:01:18 -0500 Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (ftp.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05465; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:00:52 -0500 Received: from sfupc.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:58:17 PST Received: by sfupc.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC3056.778D4940@sfupc.Triumf.CA>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:02:39 -0800 Message-Id: <01BC3056.778D4940@sfupc.Triumf.CA> From: tisol To: "'Ken'" <97Pony@worldnet.att.net>, "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: TP365XD Question Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:02:37 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Win 95 will use the standard ATAPI driver. Works on virtually every 4x cdrom that uses the EIDE interface. If your Win 95 came with the CD-ROM setup Boot disk it should find it by itself. ..peter.. ---------- From: Ken[SMTP:97Pony@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 1997 1:28 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP365XD Question Just bought a TP365XD (P100,8/810/CD-ROM) for a great price. But, the unit was a store demo and somebody messed up the Win95 system somewhat. I've pretty much repaired everything, but would REALLY like to reformat the HDD and start over as I don't use much of anything that came on the computer. Question is: I would like to reformat and reload with Win95B (FAT32). I recently did this with a TP 701cs and all went well. My concern are the drivers for the built-in CD-ROM. My Computer lists these as a Teac drive, but I don't show any Win95 drivers available on the CD-ROM. Sony, etc., is all I can find. Anybody know whether or not this will work?? Will Win95 self-install some kind of CD-ROM driver that will work?? Thanks in advance!! Ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 14 14:40:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA116118417; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:40:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21915; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:37:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:33:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21565; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:33:01 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21555; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:32:56 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA05642; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:27:59 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199703141927.OAA05642@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: Anyone dealt with D'Vegro Computers? In-Reply-To: from Waldemar Puszkarz at "Mar 14, 97 07:55:53 am" To: puszkarz@cosm.sc.edu (Waldemar Puszkarz) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:27:59 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I have nothing to add, but would like to ask: aren't his laptops a little > bit overpriced. I got such an impression from his usenet postings. And the > prices have not changed over the last several months. Any takers? D'Vegro seems to specialize in out of production models, as far as laptops are concerned. My speculation is that Grohowski has some contacts at IBM, which is headquartered near Raleigh, though whom he secures quantities of abandoned product lines (like the TP701). As for his pricing, his 701's are new, not refurbished. The extra $100-200 is well worth the extra 1-2 years of warranty time that would otherwise be lost if purchased used. Lastly, the 701 still remains as a 'special commodity', and hence more resistant to depreciation. Despite its outdated architecture, it boasts one of the best laptop designs ever made. To the dismay of some users, IBM has abandoned the compact butterfly keyboard technology in favor of the new ultra-thin laptop technology (i.e. 560) in the belief that a bigger screen is always better. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@vec.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu world rejoiced. Try to live your life Virtual Endoscopy Center so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 14 14:47:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA118968866; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:47:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23031; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:46:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:43:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22547; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:43:20 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22514; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:43:14 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA05687; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:37:51 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199703141937.OAA05687@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: TP700C hard drive upgrade? In-Reply-To: from Christoph Eyrich at "Mar 14, 97 02:40:39 pm" To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:37:51 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > Dose anyone heard of upgrading a TP700C from the ESDI hard drive to IDE = > > hard drive with a bios change? Is that possible? And who had done it? = > > Anyone has the connection diagram and bios code? Thanks in advance. This is not possible. As far as I know, there are no software or hardware products that allow you to use one type (IDE/EIDE, ESDI, SCSI) of harddrive with a controller designed for a different type, with the single exception of ESDI->SCSI. Sun Microsystems (and 3rd party vendors) used to manufacture an adapter, which could be attached to an ESDI hard drive, which could then be attached to a SCSI controller. Technically, you could take your TP700C's ESDI disk and connect it to, say, a high end SGI workstation! My knowledge doesn't extend to RLL/MFM drives. Anyone recall if these can be used with IDE controllers? It is doubtful... Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@vec.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu world rejoiced. Try to live your life Virtual Endoscopy Center so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 14 15:36:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA139261791; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:36:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19411; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:13:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:09:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18966; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:09:24 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18943; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:09:17 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA05545; Fri, 14 Mar 97 09:08:41 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA22672; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:09:29 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199703141909.JAA22672@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: TP701 value (was: Anyone dealt with D'Vegro Computers?) To: puszkarz@cosm.sc.edu (Waldemar Puszkarz) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 97 9:09:23 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "Waldemar Puszkarz" at Mar 14, 97 7:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Waldemar says: > I have nothing to add, but would like to ask: aren't his laptops a little > bit overpriced. I got such an impression from his usenet postings. And the > prices have not changed over the last several months. Any takers? His prices are somewhere between private sales and the IBM outlet store; this seems reasonable placement to me. For a while Micro Warehouse was selling refurbed 701c/75mhz/540 machines for$999; the catch was that they only gave a 90 day warrantee. D'vegro gives the full warrantee, which IMHO is the single most valuable part of the 701. It is awfully hard to put a true value on the 701, because it is so unique; it is adequate for almost anything people use laptop computers for, and it is one of only 2 machines I know (the small HP subnotes being the other) which fit fully on commuter plane tray tables:-) Form factor is what kept the Tandy 100 portables on the market so much longer than the technology would have suggested. I've just cut a deal with IBM to replace my 701 with a 560; it was a very difficult decision to make, despite the probably market value of the latter being twice that of the former, because of the form factor and warrantee. - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 14 15:56:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA147073009; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:56:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00893; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:55:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:51:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00496; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:51:03 -0500 Received: from mailsrv.cdf.toronto.edu (root@marvin.cdf.toronto.edu [128.100.31.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00453; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:50:56 -0500 Received: from localhost by marvin.cdf.toronto.edu with SMTP id <4221>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:50:39 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:50:32 -0500 From: "Richard L.F. Yuen" Sender: "Richard L.F. Yuen" Fake-Sender: g4yuen@eddie To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Experience with partition magic 2.0 on win95 In-Reply-To: <199703141909.JAA22672@tarski.hawaii.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm about to use partition magic 2.0 on my 365XD(P100,24,810,DS) does anyone have any experiences/hints/tips they like to share? thanks Richard #include #include /*****************************************************************************\ *Beware the pale horse and Richard Yuen * *on it was a rider and he was University of Toronto 9TX X->7 * *called Death.And Hell followed Faculty of Arts&Science(SW ENG) * *behind him. g4yuen@cdf.toronto.edu * \*****************http://cdf.toronto.edu/~g4yuen/personal.html****************/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 14 19:45:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA232416756; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:45:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22312; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:44:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:40:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21867; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:40:19 -0500 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21847; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:40:13 -0500 From: Received: from evt-mx100-ip189.halcyon.com by mail1.halcyon.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/10Nov96-0444PM) id AA24708; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:39:48 -0800 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970315003938.0067f098@mail.halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@mail.halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:39:38 -0800 To: "Richard L.F. Yuen" Subject: Re: Experience with partition magic 2.0 on win95 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 03:50 PM 3/14/97 -0500, you wrote: > >I'm about to use partition magic 2.0 on my 365XD(P100,24,810,DS) >does anyone have any experiences/hints/tips they like to share? > >thanks >Richard Richard, I have used PM since Ver 1 (it's up to ver 3 now). It's a wonderful program. At the risk of stating the obvious, spend some time reading the manual. Things that may seem intuitive but aren't, such as having to move a partition before resizing it, are clearly explained in the manual. I fussed around around a lot with the "hide partition" feature and the time I wasted could have been saved by slowing down and looking for the answers in the manual. I used tech support one time about 18 months ago and the guy was very patient and helpful. Good luck and have fun with the program, Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 14 23:46:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA013241171; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:46:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10085; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:44:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:40:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09795; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:40:51 -0500 Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09773; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:40:46 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA05864 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 22:40:11 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199703150440.WAA05864@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ppp00-ts01.azbz.com(207.204.0.100) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma000293; Fri Mar 14 22:16:52 1997 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John Carmody" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 21:16:11 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: 760ED Mwave Speech Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu We have been using the Mwave program in a text-to-speech Windows 95 application for the past 6 months and are very pleased with general quality of the sound and, of course, the great portability. The person enjoying the machine has Lou Gehrig's disease and can't speak any more. Sometimes we notice a slight garble in the speech, as if there are changes in timings while individual words are being spoken. Finally, we discovered by accident, after another program caused a system crash, and windows came back up in the "safe mode" that there must be some re-generating of pointers (or something like that) that cleared up the garbled speech completely. Does anyone know if there is a recommended method for resolving Mwave garbling other that forcing a system crash? Any comments will help. Thanks. -- John Carmody E-mail: oam@ix.netcom.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 00:09:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA020872580; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:09:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12596; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:08:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:04:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11935; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:04:29 -0500 Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11891; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:04:21 -0500 Received: from ibm ([207.147.204.48]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAA6631 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 05:03:39 +0000 From: "Ken" <97Pony@worldnet.att.net> To: Subject: TP365/Win95B -- WOW! Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 21:03:33 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970315050337.AAA6631@ibm> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, thanks to the kind input of several group members, I took the plunge and completely wiped clean my HDD and installed Win95B/FAT 32 and all. Things went exceedingly well -- perfectly in fact! One rather interesting note: at first I had trouble with the Hibernation file -- said it couldn't create one. On somewhat of a whim, I downloaded newer BIOS (2/97) and a new set of TP utilities from www.ibm.com and now all works perfectly!! Apparently the new BIOS now support hibernation FAT32 on a 365. Again thanks to all for your input. Ken PS I must admit to a certain amount of smugness right now. As mentioned before, this was a semi-trashed store demo (listed as a P100/8/810/DS) and the price was right (about $1000). When I installed Win95 B, I noticed a significant improvement in the screen. Hmmm. Then, I installed Norton and found out that this is REALLY a P120 with a TFT!! My lucky day!! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 02:02:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA058839360; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:02:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18990; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:02:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:59:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18708; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:59:19 -0500 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18698; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:59:15 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA11624 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:58:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:58:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970315015842_919742608@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701C screen brightness adjustment & hotswap battery Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm on my 4th battery, and this one actually seems to be the worst of all. On my system (also a 701), the reason the brightness controls are noticable is because adjustment is only available while using AC Power, but it still isn't much. I used to use a 355C, and its brightness controls were more noticable, but they could be adjusted when the machine was off, and it could also be used when on battery power. Another question for the list though: Has anyone with a 701 had any problems sending and recieving information through a terminal program when doing an Fn function which has the little icon on the screen, or if the AC Adapter is plugged in or taken out? I have had disconnections when this happens. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 02:05:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA059519526; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:05:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19309; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:04:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:02:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19018; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:02:18 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19008; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:02:14 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA08220; Fri, 14 Mar 97 21:02:11 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA28609; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 21:03:00 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199703150703.VAA28609@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: TP365/Win95B -- WOW! To: 97Pony@worldnet.att.net (Ken) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 97 21:02:57 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <19970315050337.AAA6631@ibm>; from "Ken" at Mar 14, 97 9:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Ken wrote: > significant improvement in the screen. Hmmm. Then, I installed Norton and > found out that this is REALLY a P120 with a TFT!! My lucky day!! I have to admit that I haven't upgraded Norton since 1987; how do the new versions detect TFT vs. DS? An interesting aside on speed reporting: I've now had 3 system boards in 2 TP701 machines; the PC-DOS program QCONFIG reported different CPU speeds on all three systems! - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 02:07:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA060359663; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:07:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19635; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:06:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:04:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19207; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:04:18 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19190; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:04:14 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-f-06.usc.edu [128.125.223.78]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id XAA11352; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:04:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970314224946.00714988@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:05:15 -0800 To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: TP701 value (was: Anyone dealt with D'Vegro Computers?) Cc: puszkarz@cosm.sc.edu (Waldemar Puszkarz), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 09:09 AM 3/14/97 HST, David Ross wrote: >I've just cut a deal with IBM to replace my 701 with a 560; it was a >very difficult decision to make, despite the probably market value of >the latter being twice that of the former, because of the form factor >and warrantee. Hey, how'd you manage that one? I ate my 701 (actually, my wife now uses it) when I bought a 560! ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 02:12:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA062039938; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:12:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20424; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:11:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:09:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19961; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:09:19 -0500 Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com (emout17.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19951; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:09:14 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id CAA17947 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:08:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:08:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970315020840_1083214615@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TrackPoint buttons Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On my 355c machine and my 701, I can take the keys off and clean them, so I am assuming that you can do the same on your 755. If it doesn't work, please don't hold me responsible, though. The reason I mentioned the 355, is because it is in the 360/755 family. Regards, Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 02:49:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA073342150; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:49:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23182; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:48:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:46:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23001; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:46:46 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22991; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:46:42 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA08412; Fri, 14 Mar 97 21:46:41 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA29058; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 21:47:30 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199703150747.VAA29058@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: TP701 value (was: Anyone dealt with D'Vegro Computers?) To: rwhittle@usa.net (Randy Whittle) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 97 21:47:27 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, puszkarz@cosm.sc.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970314224946.00714988@scf.usc.edu>; from "Randy Whittle" at Mar 14, 97 11:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > >I've just cut a deal with IBM to replace my 701 with a 560; it was a > Hey, how'd you manage that one? I will probably be signing a nondisclosure letter on this, so I probably shouldn't post details. I've related some of my problems in other contexts on this list before. Suffice it to say that I wouldn't recommend what I went through to anyone as a way to upgrade their computer. To Big Blue's credit, they *do* have people who recognize the value of customer loyalty, though I had to push through a lot of unhelpful low-level personnel to find one. With any other PC company (with the possible exception of HP), I would likely have had to go to court. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 10:50:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA217801007; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:50:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03519; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:48:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:45:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03307; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:45:30 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03282; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:45:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id KAA15442; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:44:13 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:44:13 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: PAULKHOURY@aol.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701C screen brightness adjustment & hotswap battery In-Reply-To: <970315015842_919742608@emout12.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 15 Mar 1997 PAULKHOURY@aol.com wrote: > > also be used when on battery power. Another question for the list though: > Has anyone with a 701 had any problems sending and recieving information > through a terminal program when doing an Fn function which has the little > icon on the screen, or if the AC Adapter is plugged in or taken out? I have > had disconnections when this happens. This is common with power management systems built into the BIOS. When you activate a power management function, it calls a BIOS routine which the CPU is forced to run. If this happens during a critical time, like when the CPU is busy handling modem data, you can get an error. The 701 may be a little more prone to this because functions like the battery meter are built into the BIOS (most other laptops use a program, which only needs to make a single BIOS call, not run an entire routine). The most extreme example is hitting Fn-F1 to get into the setup screen. That'll stop anything the 701 is doing dead in its tracks. The upside to this is that the 701's power management will work under any operating system, any circumstances short of a complete system lock-up. -- John H. Kim jokim@tuna.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 11:13:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA224652435; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:13:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05403; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:13:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:10:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05215; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:10:53 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05190; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:10:43 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:10:34 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: RE: Who knows Index Computer Remarke To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:10:34 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks to all who responded to my question (being based in Europe I won't take the risk...) Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 13:47:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA268791660; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 13:47:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14857; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 13:47:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 13:43:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14562; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 13:43:06 -0500 Received: from wolfe.net (mail1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14551; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 13:42:59 -0500 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com (sea-ts7-p29.wolfenet.com [204.157.101.155]) by wolfe.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id KAA25905; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:45:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970315104257.006a4c5c@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: pele@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:42:57 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: 1st you CD it, then you don't Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Not long ago, a member of this list posted a link to www.insight.com re an inexpensive refurb 4x cd-rom pcmcia. Frustrated by my inability to get direct cable connection to work (despite help offered by others on the list) I followed up on that post and bought one. The unit installed easily and worked fine. Today, after a week of non-use, when I fired up the TP701c, the cd-rom drive was out of sight, as in not present. No icon for the d:drive as the cd-rom appeared in My Computer, as it did before. I tried detecting for new hardware, and nothing happened. I then turned everything off, and pulled the pcmcia (adaptec scsi) card. Next I turned on the cd-rom, rebooted, and plugged the card back in. Once again, I tried to detect for new hardware; none was found. Mysteriously, however, the d:drive was recognized, with no need to re-install drivers. Does anyone have a clue as to why this happened (or what I might do to prevent it reoccurring)? Thanks. -- Peter Lewis pele@wolfenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 14:06:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA272832789; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:06:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16067; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:05:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:02:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15806; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:02:37 -0500 Received: from wolfe.net (mail1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15796; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:02:33 -0500 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com (sea-ts7-p29.wolfenet.com [204.157.101.155]) by wolfe.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id LAA28110; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:04:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970315110230.006bab70@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: pele@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:02:30 -0800 To: Peter Lewis , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: Re: 1st you CD it, then you don't In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970315104257.006a4c5c@popserv.wolfenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, I've answered my own question. Unlike my desktop cd-rom, it's necessary to turn on the laptop cd-rom _before_ booting up in order that it be recognized. The installation instructions noted that it was necessary to turn it on to install the unit; I didn't realize it needed to be turned on in advance all the time to work, vs. having the option to run it on the fly. At 10:42 AM 3/15/97 -0800, you wrote: >Not long ago, a member of this list posted a link to www.insight.com re an >inexpensive refurb 4x cd-rom pcmcia. Frustrated by my inability to get >direct cable connection to work (despite help offered by others on the >list) I followed up on that post and bought one. The unit installed easily >and worked fine. > >Today, after a week of non-use, when I fired up the TP701c, the cd-rom >drive was out of sight, as in not present. No icon for the d:drive as the >cd-rom appeared in My Computer, as it did before. I tried detecting for new >hardware, and nothing happened. > >I then turned everything off, and pulled the pcmcia (adaptec scsi) card. >Next I turned on the cd-rom, rebooted, and plugged the card back in. Once >again, I tried to detect for new hardware; none was found. > >Mysteriously, however, the d:drive was recognized, with no need to >re-install drivers. > >Does anyone have a clue as to why this happened (or what I might do to >prevent it reoccurring)? > >Thanks. >-- > >Peter Lewis >pele@wolfenet.com > > -- Peter Lewis pele@wolfenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 16:13:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA012330433; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:13:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24907; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:13:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:09:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24587; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:09:36 -0500 Received: from bnl.gov (bnl.gov [130.199.128.163]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24567; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:09:31 -0500 Received: from sun2.bnl.gov (sun2.bnl.gov [130.199.74.35]) by bnl.gov (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA23760; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by sun2.bnl.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA08555; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:09:21 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:09:21 -0500 From: bstewart@sun2.bnl.gov (Bruce Stewart) Message-Id: <199703152109.QAA08555@sun2.bnl.gov> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, pele@wolfenet.com Subject: Re: 1st you CD it, then you don't Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As I understand it, all SCSI devices should be turned on before their PCMCIA adapter is inserted. Iif the card is in when the computer is booted, the SCSI devices should be on before booting. -Bruce From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 16:28:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA017241291; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:28:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26428; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:27:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:24:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26022; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:24:35 -0500 Received: from mailsrv2.pcy.mci.net (mailsrv2.pcy.mci.net [204.71.1.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26012; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:24:32 -0500 Received: from usr9-dialup9.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net (usr9-dialup9.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-6 #10045) id <01IGJDC0987494DOW4@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:22:00 EST Received: from usr9-dialup9.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net (usr9-dialup9.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-6 #10044) with SMTP id <01IGJDAY9EQA934RTO@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:20:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 15:21:56 -0500 From: Neil Ripston Subject: Trackpoint III Question (Need a part on the keyboard) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: Neil.Ripston@internetmci.com Message-Id: <332B04E4.5A5D@internetmci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am currently using a Toshiba (Heaven Forbid, a non IBM Part!) eraserhead on my Thinkpad 760. The red Eraserheads from IBM don't last too long and are expensive. My question is: I need to obtain the square thing that the eraserhead fits on. This little square thing in turn fits onto the little toothpick type piece that is the trackpoint. IBM says it comes witht he keyboard. I once thought this mailing list had a question about parts and somebody gave a web site that had drawings and I could obtain IBM Part Numbers. I no longer have this address or message. Any suggestions? Thanks, Neil Ripston From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 17:06:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA028243563; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:06:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29804; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:05:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:03:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29603; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:03:01 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29593; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:02:57 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IGJ92JGEC09GWSV7@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 15:02:44 MST Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:55:31 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: TrackPoint buttons In-Reply-To: "Message dated Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:18:00 -0500" <199703140023.QAA16679@mailgate32> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IGJALBC3829GWSV7@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I have a 755CE, and recently I have noticed that it takes an unusual > amount of pressure to make the TrackPoint (mouse) buttons register a > click. Is there a safe way to clean the buttons (and keyboard), so > that I can get back the original, quick response? Someone mentioned cleaning which might help. Probably you still have some warranty time left so it's best to get it replaced for free while you still can. I've done that once after I first got mine and will be doing it again sometime soon as the left mouse button now only works well when you press the right side of the little tab/button. For me the 755CE would be the perfect laptop if its keyboard was just a little bit better... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 17:23:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA034294609; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:23:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01789; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:22:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:19:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01453; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:19:47 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01442; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:19:44 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 23:19:40 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: Trackpoint III Question (Need a part on the keyboard) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 23:19:40 +0100 (MET) Cc: Neil.Ripston@internetmci.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > I once thought this mailing list had a question about parts and somebody > gave a web site that had drawings and I could obtain IBM Part Numbers. > I no longer have this address or message. Try http://direct.boulder.ibm.com/us/parts/thinkpad/ or, if your machine is, e.g., a 760c: http://direct.boulder.ibm.com/us/parts/thinkpad/tpad760c.htm Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 15 17:28:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA035614897; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:28:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02472; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:27:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:24:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01935; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:24:26 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01921; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:24:21 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 23:24:17 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: 1st you CD it, then you don't To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 23:24:17 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > As I understand it, all SCSI devices should be turned on before > their PCMCIA adapter is inserted. Iif the card is in when > the computer is booted, the SCSI devices should be on before > booting. > It depends on the OS. If your system supports a later loading of PCMCIA support etc. it shouldn't be a problem to power on the SCSI devices after booting. Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 00:02:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA160138569; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:02:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02357; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:02:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Mar 1997 23:56:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01687; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 23:56:48 -0500 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (mahalkitacutee.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.75.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01669; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 23:56:31 -0500 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00425 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 20:53:33 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 20:52:43 -0800 (PST) From: derelict To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 860 info Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know where I can find some more info on the TP860? Thanks, -Mike -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 01:10:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA181802642; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:10:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07924; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:08:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:04:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07534; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:04:09 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07482; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:03:55 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id BAA16955; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:02:47 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:02:47 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: PCMCIA SCSI In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, I'm finally going to take the plunge and get a PCMCIA SCSI card for my TP701. I'll be running it predominantly under Linux. I'll probably start off with a CD-ROM and Zip drives. Later I'll probably get a scanner and maybe some other SCSI toys. Can anyone folks recommend/bad-mouth the following? APA-1450A SLIMSCSI FSCSI2 PCMCIA FRMVBLE APA-1460A-2 FSCSI2 PCMCIA KIT (From Adaptec's description, it looks like the former only supports one device while the latter daisychains, although how that is I don't know.) Panasonic KXL-D740 and KXL-D745 4X CD-Rom + PCMCIA SCSI2 KXL-783A 8X PORTABLE CDROM PC 1200KB 180MS SCSI2 PCMCIA (What adapter do these include and how well does it work with other SCSI devices?) Also, a friend of mine showed me the following site which I've been using to search for products. Does anyone know how reputable some of the low-price companies are? http://www.computeresp.com/ Thanks! -- John H. Kim jokim@tuna.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 03:15:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA222640125; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:15:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15890; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:14:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:10:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15280; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:10:15 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15199; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:10:05 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA70885 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:09:59 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-155.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.155) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma98ECKs; Sun Mar 16 08:09:41 1997 Message-Id: <332BABB7.57E8@ibm.net> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:13:43 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Lid Closed .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a 755Ce hooked up to a port replicator, but would like to keep the lid shut (for use with a possible external monitor), will this hurt the machine? Even if I do not have an external monitor attached at present?? Thanks, -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. Engineer/Author/Consultant 2 Applied Info & Mgnt Sys, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v: 801-583-8544 e: aimsllc@ibm.net / bangell@cs.utah.edu 4 -------------------------------------------------------- 5 Applied Info & Mngmnt Systems has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet, Notes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCPIP,etc), Custom (AWK-PERL-C-Visualizer), 8 Database dsgn/dev. 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From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 03:17:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA223710251; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:17:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16247; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:16:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:12:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15546; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:12:31 -0500 Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15535; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:12:27 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id DAA20439 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:11:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:11:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970316031155_1150391246@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Trackpoint III Question (Need a part on the keyboard) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As long as IBM will support it, I would easyserve the machine and get the keyboard replaced. That part is supposed to be part of the keyboard itself. I could be wrong, but that's what IBM said when they I asked them about the loose mouse buttons on my ThinkPad - mouse buttons, or anything besides the TrackPoint III cap itself are part of the whole keyboard, and that we then need replacment. Hope this helps. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 03:23:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA225660624; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:23:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17775; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:23:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:18:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16744; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:18:35 -0500 Received: from emout01.mail.aol.com (emout01.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.92]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16712; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:18:30 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout01.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id DAA27866 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:17:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:17:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970316031757_-2007070768@emout01.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 Hinges Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone had any problems with the hinges starting to bend on a 701? I'm having problems with mine. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 03:50:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA234192219; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:50:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20910; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:49:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:45:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20545; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:45:45 -0500 Received: from kari.fm.unit.no (0@kari.fm.unit.no [129.241.26.200]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20530; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:45:39 -0500 Received: from demokrit.fm.unit.no (30256@demokrit-26.fm.unit.no [129.241.26.211]) by kari.fm.unit.no (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA04488; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:45:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (larsev@localhost) by demokrit.fm.unit.no (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id JAA16277; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:45:32 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: demokrit.fm.unit.no: larsev owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:45:32 +0100 (MET) From: Lars Evensen To: "John H. Kim" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PCMCIA SCSI In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 16 Mar 1997, John H. Kim wrote: > Well, I'm finally going to take the plunge and get a PCMCIA SCSI > card for my TP701. I'll be running it predominantly under > Linux. I'll probably start off with a CD-ROM and Zip drives. > Later I'll probably get a scanner and maybe some other SCSI > toys. Can anyone folks recommend/bad-mouth the following? > > APA-1450A SLIMSCSI FSCSI2 PCMCIA FRMVBLE > APA-1460A-2 FSCSI2 PCMCIA KIT > (From Adaptec's description, it looks like the former only > supports one device while the latter daisychains, although how > that is I don't know.) This information is wrong. The first one complies to the scsi2 standard, and allows you to daisy chain upto 7 devices. I'm currently running 3 devices of this card. A CD-Rom, a Zip drive, and an external SCSI2 hard disk. This card is automatically recognised by Linux kernels 2.*.*, and it works reaaly well under linux. CU -- LArs Evensen, Overordnet TillitsValgt (OTV) ved FIM, NTNU E.B.Schieldrops Vei 11-16 E-mail : larsev@fm.unit.no 7033 Trondheim WWW : http://www.fm.unit.no/~larsev/ Norway Phone : + 47 - 73 88 89 01 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 03:52:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA234722340; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:52:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21356; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:51:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:47:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20639; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:47:17 -0500 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20629; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:47:14 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id DAA12048 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:46:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:46:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970316034641_-2040619555@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Bad experience with Club PC, PCs Compleat Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In a message dated 97-03-13 00:49:05 EST, you write: << Subj: Bad experience with Index Computer Date: 97-03-13 00:49:05 EST From: cdvorak@pepperdine.edu (Charles Dvorak) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu CC: cdvorak@pepperdine.edu >From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) >Subject: Who knows Index Computer Remarketing Inc.? > >Does somebody know something about Index Computer Remarketing Inc.? > >They appear to sell pretty cheap TPs, amongst other brand hardware, >as well as parts for current and old TP models. > >I've never heart of them before (which doesn't mean that much) but >I'd like to know if one should be careful. > >Thanks > >Christoph Eyrich >eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > I ordered a NiMH new battery from Index Computer for $115 plus $8 shipping. I was told they were in stock and would ship one that night. Two weeks later I received a NiCad battery plus a receipt for a NiMH. I called and asked for a correction. I was told they were out of stock on the NiMH (lie no. 1). Seems they should have told me that the day I handed over my credit card number. Then they told me not to worry the NiCad would work fine in my TP701 (lie no. 2). If they wanted to sell me a NiCad, they should have adjusted the invoice. If I wanted another NiCad I would have ordered it. Finally, I pushed the envelope and suggested since they were obviously covering somebody's ass, they should let me ship it back COD. Not their policy... Lost my interest there. You, Index, or anyone else can flame me - go ahead. Even if they credit my card, they were unethical in my case. I wouldn't buy from them. Charlie Dvorak cdvorak@pepperdine.edu >> I don't blame you. I bought some paper for my Pentax PocketJet Printer from a place called ClubPC. The sales rep. sounded like he wanted to kick me off his line, even after a order for 1100 sheets. Then, I ordered it overnight, and they shipped only three "reams" (300 sheets), so I called back, they gave my a idiotic response, and I ended up having to have someone take me down to the nearest FedEx office to pick up the rest of the shipment, a week later. They only refunded 5 bucks or something ludicrous like that, and I never bought from them again. I also had problems with PCs Compleat. I bought an IBM PCMCIA Audio Adapter, and later on, TrackPoint III caps. I had them shipped overnight and 2nd day, respectively, and the said I have to sign for my packages, plus, they didn't refund any credits, and blamed me. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 03:55:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA235612508; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:55:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21857; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:54:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:49:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20955; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:49:53 -0500 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20941; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:49:48 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id DAA00768 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:49:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:49:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970316034914_-2040619554@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Good experiance with Insight Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I originally bought my 701 from Insight Computers, and had it shipped overnight, as my 355c started failing drastically during those past few weeks about this time last year. I wasn't able to go out that evening, but my sales rep called me back to let me know, and they also weren't in a rush when I asked for all the information about my 701. That was the cheapest place I could find last year, but now they are a little expensive, but the service is worth it. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 04:35:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA248034934; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 04:35:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24549; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 04:08:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 04:04:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23544; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 04:03:59 -0500 Received: from emout16.mail.aol.com (emout16.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23488; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 04:03:51 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id EAA26263 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 04:03:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 04:03:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970316040319_-1472245146@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Older ThinkPads Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anybody have, or know of where I could buy an older PS/2 Note or 386/486SX ThinkPad for < $200, whether or not it has a hard drive, or has other peculiarities, as long as it can boot off a floppy disk? Thanks. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 04:40:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA249265232; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 04:40:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22249; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:55:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:51:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21431; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:51:52 -0500 Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21421; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:51:48 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id DAA05393 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:51:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:51:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970316035106_-1271169697@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701C screen brightness adjustment & hotswap battery Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In a message dated 97-03-12 21:21:10 EST, you write: << Subj: Re: ThinkPad 701C screen brightness adjustment & hotswap battery Date: 97-03-12 21:21:10 EST From: jokim@MIT.EDU (John H. Kim) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu ('thinkpad@cs.utk.edu') CC: eddy@ucla.edu (Eddy Lin) On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Eddy Lin wrote: > > I have a TP701C (active matrix screen) and since I got the > machine as new, I've tried to adjust to brightness using the > Fn keys but I see not visible brightness change in the screen. If you're on battery power, there is almost no difference. If it's plugged into AC, there is a noticable difference between bright and dark. -- John H. Kim jokim@tuna.mit.edu >> True. I think it says that either in the manual, the 701readm.txt file, or both. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 08:12:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA008527924; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:12:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15508; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:11:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:07:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15145; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:07:04 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15135; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:07:01 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:06:58 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: Thinkpad 860 info To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:06:58 +0100 (MET) Cc: mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > Does anyone know where I can find some more info on the TP860? > That's a PPC machine (603e) and, as far a I know, they ship it with AIX or NT. IBM appears to have dropped their plans to develop os2 for the PPC. Try http://www.pc.ibm.com/answerbk/l0146.html Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 11:23:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA063029403; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:23:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27666; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:21:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:14:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26941; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:14:23 -0500 Received: from megspo1.megsinet.net (megspo.megsinet.net [206.222.62.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26931; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:14:18 -0500 Received: from randolphmax1-6.megsinet.net ([208.133.78.6]) by megspo1.megsinet.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11704) with SMTP id AAA142; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 10:13:49 -0600 Received: by randolphmax1-6.megsinet.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC31F3.5D134850@randolphmax1-6.megsinet.net>; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 10:18:16 -0600 Message-Id: <01BC31F3.5D134850@randolphmax1-6.megsinet.net> From: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) To: Waldemar Puszkarz , "'David Ross'" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: TP701 value (was: Anyone dealt with D'Vegro Computers?) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 23:08:45 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I too am in Dave's position. After 7 trips to EZServe, the IBM Customer = Relations group (that term is an oxymoron) has finally consentet to = replacing my 701C with a 560. Even though the 560 is a more 'powerful' = machine, I feel like I am taking a step backwards because of the form = factor. Dennis From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 14:14:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA116399679; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:14:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08497; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:12:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:09:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07998; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:09:08 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07984; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:09:02 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-68.usc.edu [128.125.223.212]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id LAA20649; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:08:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970316105348.0073cccc@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:10:00 -0800 To: "John H. Kim" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: PCMCIA SCSI Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:02 AM 3/16/97 -0500, John H. Kim wrote: >Well, I'm finally going to take the plunge and get a PCMCIA SCSI >card for my TP701. I'll be running it predominantly under >Linux. I'll probably start off with a CD-ROM and Zip drives. >Later I'll probably get a scanner and maybe some other SCSI >toys. Can anyone folks recommend/bad-mouth the following? > >APA-1450A SLIMSCSI FSCSI2 PCMCIA FRMVBLE >APA-1460A-2 FSCSI2 PCMCIA KIT >(From Adaptec's description, it looks like the former only >supports one device while the latter daisychains, although how >that is I don't know.) I don't know about the former, but I have the Adaptec 1460 SlimSCSI (I don't know if its an "A-2" or not--I've had it for about 1 year). Honestly, I couldn't be happier with it. Seems to support whatever number of SCSI devices I need, fully supported plug-n-play by Win 95 (since you'll be using Linux, I don't know--but as you know, if its Adaptec, its about as compatible as anything can get in terms of SCSI). >Panasonic KXL-D740 and KXL-D745 4X CD-Rom + PCMCIA SCSI2 >KXL-783A 8X PORTABLE CDROM PC 1200KB 180MS SCSI2 PCMCIA >(What adapter do these include and how well does it work with >other SCSI devices?) You read the list as much as I do--it seems that lots of people have had trouble making these things work with other SCSI devices. When I was toying with the thought of getting a portable SCSI CD-ROM, I was almost lamenting the fact that I had purchased a SCSI card when it seemed that I could have gotten one included with a CD-ROM drive. I never did get one (I have an external Pioneer 6-disk changer that has sufficed--not exactly "portable", but then I don't need that anyway), but even if I had, I'd be glad I had the Adaptec. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 14:14:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA116459688; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:14:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08492; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:12:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:09:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08012; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:09:09 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07992; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:09:05 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-68.usc.edu [128.125.223.212]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id LAA20662; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:08:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970316110741.00741b9c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:10:02 -0800 To: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) From: Randy Whittle Subject: RE: TP701 value (was: Anyone dealt with D'Vegro Computers?) Cc: Waldemar Puszkarz , "'David Ross'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:08 PM 3/15/97 -0600, Dennis Pantazis wrote: >I too am in Dave's position. After 7 trips to EZServe, the IBM Customer Relations group (that term is an oxymoron) has finally consentet to replacing my 701C with a 560. Even though the 560 is a more 'powerful' machine, I feel like I am taking a step backwards because of the form factor. Actually Dennis, you shouldn't feel that way (despite all the pain and suffering you've gone through to get to this point). Like you, I had a 701C that I really liked a *whole LOT* (well, mine didn't fall apart continuously like yours, but...). After dealing with a heavyweight 750C for 2 years, it was *VERY* nice to have a small, lightweight machine. I won't go into details, but my wife needed a computer so I gave her my 701C and replaced it with a 560 for me. At first, I wasn't too sure I liked the 560 very much. Clearly, it was "bigger" when I really liked the 701C better for its smaller form factor. However, it grew on me--and "bigger" is a misnomer. In thickness, the 701C is a full 1/2" thicker and in terms of weight, about 1/2 lb. *heavier* than the 560. Combine that with the bigger, higher-res. screen and the faster chip & larger hard drive, and I have no doubt you'll be loving the 560 in no time--oh, and no need to carry that little port replicator extra around with you all the time. The wideness of the 560 allows a full compliment of ports without the replicator. Also, it uses a Li-Ion battery, which is superior in life for the weight and easier to care for. As a student, I use a backpack a hell of a lot more than a briefcase, and I'll also say the 560 "lays" better (being thinner, its much like a spiral notebook whereas the 701C was like a thick calculus book) in my backpack. In a briefcase, its pretty much the same. At any rate, consider the 560 a bonus for your trouble. It took me a couple of weeks, but now I no longer yearn for the 701C and no longer envy my wife when she uses it. The only drawback at *all* that I see now is that the 701C's speaker sounded much better than the thin-sounding 560 (oh, and also the lack of a modem--but then the 701C's 14.4K modem sucked anyway). I'm certain you'll grow to like your 560 even better than the 701 as I did. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 14:46:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA125911596; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:46:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11372; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:44:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:42:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11070; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:42:22 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11060; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:42:18 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id OAA18271; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:41:16 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:41:15 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Randy Whittle Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PCMCIA SCSI In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970316105348.0073cccc@scf.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 16 Mar 1997, Randy Whittle wrote: > At 01:02 AM 3/16/97 -0500, John H. Kim wrote: > > >Panasonic KXL-D740 and KXL-D745 4X CD-Rom + PCMCIA SCSI2 > >KXL-783A 8X PORTABLE CDROM PC 1200KB 180MS SCSI2 PCMCIA > > You read the list as much as I do--it seems that lots of people have had > trouble making these things work with other SCSI devices. When I was I did a search via DejaNews and most people seemed to report no problems with the 4X and 8X models. I seemed to recall most of the problems were with the 2X model. I was hoping someone here could elucidate. -- John H. Kim jokim@tuna.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 16 17:12:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA172210334; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:12:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21535; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:09:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:07:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21245; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:07:00 -0500 Received: from edelweb.fr (edelweb.fr [193.51.12.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21235; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:06:56 -0500 Received: from ben.edelweb.fr (ben.edelweb.fr [193.51.12.62]) by edelweb.fr with ESMTP id XAA00405; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:06:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by ben.edelweb.fr (8.7.6/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA13992; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:06:18 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:06:18 +0100 (MET) From: Ben To: rj Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Iomega Jaz on TP701 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A data point: My Jaz works just fine with my Bus Toaster and 701. No screwing required--it was just plug and play. > I've been trying to hook up a Jaz drive to a TP701 using a Panasonic > KXLC003, or whatever the PCMCIA card that comes wiht a KXL-783A is > called. I have the Jaz connected to the card and the CDROM connected > to the Jaz. I set the terminator on the CDROM to ON and the Jaz is > number 4 and the CDROM set to number 5. GUEST.EXE is run from a > DOS prompt and the program returns with an F: for the drive assignment. > I can then cd to the F: drive but if I try to do anything then on that > drive the system hangs and must be rebooted!!! > > Has anyone successfully at doing what I'm trying to do or have any > idea what I need to do to get it to work??? > > Thanks!!! > Ben. ____ Ben Samman.................................................ben@edelweb.fr Paris, France Illudium Q36 Explosive Space Modulator From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 17 01:54:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA042851658; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:54:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00224; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:51:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:47:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29736; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:47:31 -0500 Received: from PhoneLink.COM (fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM [193.195.138.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29726; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:47:27 -0500 Received: from freemuda.prod.PhoneLink.COM by fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM id aa20307; 17 Mar 97 5:44 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 06:47:06 GMT From: Chaplin@emarkt.com Subject: CD Rom Drives To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <170397064633000C.Chaplin@emarkt.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I wish to buy a CD Romdrive for my Thinkpad 760 LD but cannot decide whether to purchase the IBM internal version or an external PCMCIA or parallel port drive. If anyone has experience of any please could they share those experiences with me to assist in my decision. Many thanks in advance. Philip -- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 17 09:00:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA167267250; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:00:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08506; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:58:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:53:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07420; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:53:39 -0500 Received: from emout11.mail.aol.com (emout11.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07397; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:53:31 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout11.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA26718 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:52:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:52:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970317085254_-1806869241@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CD Rom Drives Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In a message dated 97-03-17 01:51:05 EST, you write: << Subj: CD Rom Drives Date: 97-03-17 01:51:05 EST From: Chaplin@emarkt.com To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu I wish to buy a CD Romdrive for my Thinkpad 760 LD but cannot decide whether to purchase the IBM internal version or an external PCMCIA or parallel port drive. If anyone has experience of any please could they share those experiences with me to assist in my decision. Many thanks in advance. Philip >> It all depends on your needs. If you want to minimize how much stuff you carry with you, then the internal version might be convienent. If you want to use it with more than one machine, then the external model would be the way to go. Also take a look at warranty and pricing. For a warranty, three years and up is excellent. Regards, Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 17 09:26:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA176488771; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:26:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13027; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:24:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:21:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12591; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:21:13 -0500 Received: from smtp.rmi.net (smtp.rmi.net [166.93.207.100]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12574; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:21:07 -0500 Received: from lee.market1.com (slip22142.rmii.com [166.93.22.142]) by smtp.rmi.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA28179; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:20:59 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:20:59 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703171420.HAA28179@smtp.rmi.net> X-Sender: lee@rmii.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Chaplin@emarkt.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) Subject: Re: CD Rom Drives Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >I wish to buy a CD Romdrive for my Thinkpad 760 LD but cannot decide whether to purchase the IBM internal version or an external PCMCIA or parallel port drive. I have a 760EL and have the internal drive in my ultrabay and it's been great, but then I use CDs more now than I use diskettes. I used to have a 755C and had an external PCMCIA drive. It also worked, but.. If I had to do that again, there is one major thing I'd look for: I had the Panasonic external CD drive. It worked well, never had a problem with it. But it had this separate AC adapter that was even bigger than the Thinkpad's. Finding two bottom outlets where I could plug both in at the same time was a pain. A friend here has an Exp external CD drive, and it's also worked well. The big difference is that drive draws it's power from the PCMCIA port so you don't need an extra AC adapter and an extra outlet. I'd look for that "no AC adapter" feature if I ever bought a new one. Lee Stewart | lee@rmii.com --- - - - - - - - - - - - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AD2000 Web Designer | GRMI Web Designer http://www.ad2000.org | http://www.grmi.org From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 17 13:37:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA266013857; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:37:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09617; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:34:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:30:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09185; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:30:22 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu (rho.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09159; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:30:16 -0500 Received: from ibmtp701c.lin.org ([128.97.149.251]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA35996 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:30:08 -0800 Received: by ibmtp701c.lin.org with Microsoft Mail id <01BC32BE.63131020@ibmtp701c.lin.org>; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:31:34 -0800 Message-Id: <01BC32BE.63131020@ibmtp701c.lin.org> From: Eddy Lin To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: PCMCIA SCSI Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:31:31 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a 1460-A. I don't think there are any difference between the = revision A and revision B card except for the cable that's bundled with = the kit. I got mind as A and it came with one cable and I get to request = another for only shipping and handling. The B version comes with 3 types = of cables. Adaptec driver seems to imply that there are differences = between the original 1460 and the revised versions. But in any case, the = 1460 uses a Adaptec SCSI chip used in the AHA1540 series. Mine's working = great. I used it under NT and Win95 OSR 2 with a Sony CD-ROM, a bunch of = hard drives and a MO drive on a TP701C. Eddy -----Original Message----- From: Randy Whittle [SMTP:rwhittle@usa.net] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 1997 11:10 AM To: John H. Kim Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PCMCIA SCSI At 01:02 AM 3/16/97 -0500, John H. Kim wrote: >Well, I'm finally going to take the plunge and get a PCMCIA SCSI >card for my TP701. I'll be running it predominantly under >Linux. I'll probably start off with a CD-ROM and Zip drives. >Later I'll probably get a scanner and maybe some other SCSI >toys. Can anyone folks recommend/bad-mouth the following? > >APA-1450A SLIMSCSI FSCSI2 PCMCIA FRMVBLE >APA-1460A-2 FSCSI2 PCMCIA KIT >(From Adaptec's description, it looks like the former only >supports one device while the latter daisychains, although how >that is I don't know.) I don't know about the former, but I have the Adaptec 1460 SlimSCSI (I don't know if its an "A-2" or not--I've had it for about 1 year). Honestly, I couldn't be happier with it. Seems to support whatever = number of SCSI devices I need, fully supported plug-n-play by Win 95 (since = you'll be using Linux, I don't know--but as you know, if its Adaptec, its about = as compatible as anything can get in terms of SCSI). >Panasonic KXL-D740 and KXL-D745 4X CD-Rom + PCMCIA SCSI2 >KXL-783A 8X PORTABLE CDROM PC 1200KB 180MS SCSI2 PCMCIA >(What adapter do these include and how well does it work with >other SCSI devices?) You read the list as much as I do--it seems that lots of people have = had trouble making these things work with other SCSI devices. When I was toying with the thought of getting a portable SCSI CD-ROM, I was almost lamenting the fact that I had purchased a SCSI card when it seemed that = I could have gotten one included with a CD-ROM drive. I never did get one = (I have an external Pioneer 6-disk changer that has sufficed--not exactly "portable", but then I don't need that anyway), but even if I had, I'd = be glad I had the Adaptec. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC = http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it = is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I=20 am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 17 15:23:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA005360197; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:23:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19947; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:19:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:11:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18768; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:11:37 -0500 Received: from PhoneLink.COM (fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM [193.195.138.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18752; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:11:27 -0500 Received: from freemuda.prod.PhoneLink.COM by fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM id aa05376; 17 Mar 97 18:33 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:35:06 GMT From: Chaplin@emarkt.com Subject: External/InternalCD Rom To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <170397193441000C.Chaplin@emarkt.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu To all on the list who replied to my question regarding my choice of CD ROM, many thanks. I have loads of information and experiences to go through now so it is make my mind up time! I'm still willing to listen if anyone else has any suggestions though. Regards, Philip -- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 17 16:09:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA024072996; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:09:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08277; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:23:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:16:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07601; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:16:06 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07551; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:15:58 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA05753; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:15:42 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199703171815.NAA05753@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: CD Rom Drives To: Chaplin@emarkt.com Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:15:41 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <170397064633000C.Chaplin@emarkt.com> from "Chaplin@emarkt.com" at Mar 17, 97 06:47:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I wish to buy a CD Romdrive for my Thinkpad 760 LD but cannot decide > whether to purchase the IBM internal version or an external PCMCIA or > parallel port drive. > > If anyone has experience of any please could they share those > experiences with me to assist in my decision. I recently purchased a Sony 4X CD-ROM Discman (one of the refurbished ones that Insight was selling recently) for my 760C. The unit itself works fine, but there are two annoyances: 1. The connection cable is too thick at the PCMCIA card end, making it impossible to use the unit at the same time as another PCMCIA card that requires an external connector. I called Sony Canada about this, and got a polite "no, we've never heard of problems like that before; that's the only cable we have". Plastic surgery on the cable may fix this problem, but I haven't had time to try. 2. Power. As someone else on the list remarked, it's irritating to try to locate an electrical outlet that can handle two largish AC adapters. On the other hand, the Sony does come with a clip-on pack that lets you insert 4 AA batteris and run it from that. You can also buy an internal Li-Ion battery for the unit, too, which fits right inside the drive, for another $60 US or so. On the plus side, the PCMCIA card that comes with the unit is reputedly a standard Adaptec SlimSCSI 1460A, which is handy for using the unit for other devices. You do have to purchase an additional cable from Adaptec, though. Also, you can use the drive as a regular CD-player, when it's not connected to the computer. In all, for $120 US (refurbished), I'm reaonably pleased with it. I've used it with Linux and Win95 so far. Since I have an additional hard disk in the UltraBay on a semi-permanent basis, an external CD-ROM works well for me. On the other hand, my 760C won't accomodate an internal CD-ROM anyway. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 17 16:14:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA026273285; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:14:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05918; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:03:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:52:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04513; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:52:01 -0500 Received: from mail2.pilot.net (mail2.pilot.net [198.232.147.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04502; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:51:55 -0500 Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (unknown-8-248.jud.state.ca.us [206.81.8.248]) by mail2.pilot.net with SMTP id JAA23067; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:51:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00000E10; Mon, 17 Mar 97 09:48:42 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:48:43 -0800 Message-Id: <00000E10.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, "John H. Kim" Subject: Re: PCMCIA SCSI Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.229026858" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the remainder, you will need to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.229026858 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part John: I'd recommend the Adaptec SlimScsi card. It's a no-brainer with Win95. Then you can plug in almost any kind of SCSI device, from conventional CD-ROMs to the CD-R (writer) drives, DAT, etc. When I was shopping around for CD solution for my 701, I settled on the Adaptec SlimSCSI because it seemed to be the most compatible across device brands and types. For example, if you ever want to buy a CD-R (writer), it seems like almost all of the brands I've encountered (JVC, HP, Smart & Friendly (OEM-?)) all require SCSI controllers that support the ASPI SCSI command set. This usually translates to using Adaptec SCSI controllers. Likewise for some brands of DAT drives. Because I hack large databases for various clients, I opted for the CD-R option (you may have guessed this already). I ended up with a JVC 2x write - 4x read. Not the fastest, but adequate for mobile solutions (and cheapest). I also ended up with a Smart & Friendly 4x write in my downtown SF office. Then again, if you don't need a mobile CD, re-consider the Dock II option for more flexible expansion options. I just bought a new Dock II for $200 (!). Mitchell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: PCMCIA SCSI Author: "John H. Kim" at Internet Date: 3/16/97 1:02 AM Well, I'm finally going to take the plunge and get a PCMCIA SCSI card for my TP701. I'll be running it predominantly under Linux. I'll probably start off with a CD-ROM and Zip drives. Later I'll probably get a scanner and maybe some other SCSI toys. Can anyone folks recommend/bad-mouth the following? APA-1450A SLIMSCSI FSCSI2 PCMCIA FRMVBLE APA-1460A-2 FSCSI2 PCMCIA KIT (From Adaptec's description, it looks like the former only supports one device while the latter daisychains, although how that is I don't know.) Panasonic KXL-D740 and KXL-D745 4X CD-Rom + PCMCIA SCSI2 KXL-783A 8X PORTABLE CDROM PC 1200KB 180MS SCSI2 PCMCIA (What adapter do these include and how well does it work with other SCSI devices?) Also, a friend of mine showed me the following site which I've been using to search for products. Does anyone know how reputable some of the low-price companies are? http://www.computeresp.com/ Thanks! -- John H. Kim jokim@tuna.mit.edu --IMA.Boundary.229026858 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from mail2c.pilot.net (198.232.147.16) by ima.jud.ca.gov with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00000CE1; Sat, 15 Mar 97 22:06:41 -0800 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mail2c.pilot.net with SMTP id WAA12660 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07934; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:09:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:04:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07534; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:04:09 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07482; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:03:55 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id BAA16955; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:02:47 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:02:47 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: PCMCIA SCSI In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --IMA.Boundary.229026858-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 17 16:24:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA029533850; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:24:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26850; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:21:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:18:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26533; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:18:08 -0500 Received: from p3.net (root@p3.net [206.67.12.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26513; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:18:02 -0500 Received: from ork.p3.net (nbwgb29.p3.net [206.67.13.29]) by p3.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA19995 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:11:07 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970317211145.0068f9b0@p3.net> X-Sender: ork@p3.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:11:45 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Aaron Tunnell Subject: thinkpad 701 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I want to buy one of these, anyone know of a source? 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Rusted Root- It can't be explained, it must be experienced. ------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 17 16:29:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA031814186; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:29:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24771; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:02:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:58:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24116; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:58:16 -0500 Received: from cimweb.cimtek.on.ca (cimweb.cimtek.on.ca [199.198.216.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24092; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:58:09 -0500 Received: from egan.cimtek.on.ca (egan.cimtek.on.ca [199.198.216.2]) by cimweb.cimtek.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA13233 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:30:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970317160019.007240d0@mail.cimtek.on.ca> X-Sender: jfe@mail.cimtek.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 13 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:00:19 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "James F. Egan" Subject: Audio/MIDI device gone Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Gentle folks, Somehow I have deleted the midi and sound device on my TP760C under W95. Not sure how, but when trying to reconfigure the modem/serial ports it has affected the sound device. Now the Thinkpad Features utility reports "No midi port installed". After Running the Self Test (F1 key held down at powerup), it reports an error on the DSP. Now, I am not sure how to add back in the midi/wave/audio devices (no hardware found under W95 'add hardware') and am not sure if the DSP is actually damaged or not working. Does anyone know how to add the DSP midi/wave back in? FYI it reported DEV 113, ERR 48, FRU 1610 on the DSP test. Not sure what to do with this data at this point. Any help would be appreciated. thx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ James F. Egan jfe@cimtek.on.ca (905)-847-8811 FAX 847-8822 Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 17 17:07:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA045816449; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:07:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02345; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:05:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:02:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01913; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:02:19 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01858; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:02:05 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IGM26VR4R49GX0UI@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:01:43 MST Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:48:21 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Lid Closed .... In-Reply-To: "Message dated Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:13:43 -0700" <332BABB7.57E8@ibm.net> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IGM34QMW0Y9GX0UI@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I have a 755Ce hooked up to a port replicator, but would like > to keep the lid shut (for use with a possible external monitor), > will this hurt the machine? Even if I do not have an external > monitor attached at present?? I'd be sure the Thinkpad's screen is off, just for the sake of generating less heat... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 17 17:17:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA049637038; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:17:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04131; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:15:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:12:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03632; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:12:34 -0500 Received: from mail.microserve.net (mail.microserve.net [207.44.0.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03579; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:12:18 -0500 Received: from default (eye.microserve.com [198.70.182.26]) by mail.microserve.net (8.8.5/naISPa) with ESMTP id RAA14521 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:12:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703172212.RAA14521@mail.microserve.net> From: "Joseph Pugliese" To: Subject: midi files wont play Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:11:54 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm unable to play midi files with the sound card setup in my thinkpad. I have read all of the help files and can't get them to play. Any help anyone can offer will be appreciated. Joseph Pugliese email:jpuglies@eye.microserve.com jpuglies@pol.net http:www.microserve.net/~jpuglies From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 17 22:50:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA165207053; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:50:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02354; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:46:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:42:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01917; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:42:25 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01906; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:42:21 -0500 Received: from user-37kb958.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb958.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.168]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA54998; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:42:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199703180342.WAA54998@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "James F. Egan" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 17 Mar 97 22:42:15 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Audio/MIDI device gone Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If the DSP failed in test then the TP needs servicing. It is a hardware problem & the unit needs to be serviced. Call IBM On Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:00:19 -0500, James F. Egan wrote: >Gentle folks, >Somehow I have deleted the midi and sound device on my TP760C under W95. >Not sure how, but when trying to reconfigure the modem/serial ports it has >affected the sound device. Now the Thinkpad Features utility reports "No >midi port installed". After Running the Self Test (F1 key held down at >powerup), it reports an error on the DSP. Now, I am not sure how to add >back in the midi/wave/audio devices (no hardware found under W95 'add >hardware') and am not sure if the DSP is actually damaged or not working. >Does anyone know how to add the DSP midi/wave back in? >FYI it reported DEV 113, ERR 48, FRU 1610 on the DSP test. Not sure what >to do with this data at this point. >Any help would be appreciated. >thx > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >James F. Egan jfe@cimtek.on.ca (905)-847-8811 FAX 847-8822 > > Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" >The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle >interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche >--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. > - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 > > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 17 23:34:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA181099664; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:34:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06617; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:33:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:30:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06279; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:30:38 -0500 Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (mail-gw2.pacbell.net [206.13.28.53]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06255; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:30:30 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-120-134.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.120.134]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA18768; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:30:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703180430.UAA18768@mail-gw2.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Tim Tyhurst" , Cc: Subject: Re: CD Rom Drives Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:24:34 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > 1. The connection cable is too thick at the PCMCIA card end, making > it impossible to use the unit at the same time as another PCMCIA > card that requires an external connector. I called Sony Canada > about this, and got a polite "no, we've never heard of problems > like that before; that's the only cable we have". Plastic surgery > on the cable may fix this problem, but I haven't had time to try. I pointed this problem out to Sony USA and Adaptec. They said they had never heard of the problem either. In the end I also did surgery on it. One interesting thing is the box shows the older style cable for the SlimSCSI card which works just fine. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 00:39:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA203763563; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:39:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12621; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:33:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:30:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12404; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:30:56 -0500 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12372; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:30:50 -0500 From: Received: from evt-mx100-ip56.halcyon.com by mail1.halcyon.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/10Nov96-0444PM) id AA02194; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:30:24 -0800 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970318053008.00675484@mail.halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@mail.halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:30:08 -0800 To: Chaplin@emarkt.com Subject: Re: External/InternalCD Rom Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 07:35 PM 3/17/97 GMT, you wrote: >To all on the list who replied to my question regarding my choice of CD ROM, many thanks. > >I have loads of information and experiences to go through now so it is make my mind up time! > >I'm still willing to listen if anyone else has any suggestions though. > >Regards, > >Philip > > >-- Phillip, I chose an external unit, Panasonic KXL D740 4X, because I use cd's mainly for installations and do not need the added weight to carry around. Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 00:41:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA204233666; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:41:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12539; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:32:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:29:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11800; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:29:09 -0500 Received: from alpha1.superonline.com (alpha1.superonline.com [194.242.73.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11776; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:29:04 -0500 Received: from ikuruoz.mktr.dom ([192.127.89.72]) by alpha1.superonline.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA3314 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 07:28:49 +0300 Message-Id: <332E26B7.1ABA@superonline.com> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 07:23:03 +0200 From: akineb@superonline.com (Ibrahim Enis Akin) X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Zoltrix?? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all, Has anyone experimented with a Zoltrix PCMCIA 33600 platinum series, preferably on a 365XD? Thanks -- ~~| Enis AKIN: akineb@superonline.com ~~| http://maxwell.njit.edu/merhaba/marmara/ \___||__/ ~-~--~-~---~-~--~-~--~-~-~-~--~-~--~-~-~-~--~-~--~-~-~-\_____/~-~-~ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 06:08:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA013433291; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:08:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12885; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:07:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:04:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12459; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:04:02 -0500 Received: from lance.castle.net (root@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12446; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:03:57 -0500 Received: from bernstei (BRIDGE23.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.55]) by lance.castle.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA05832 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:05:59 -0500 Message-Id: <332E76AD.1CFA@castle.net> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:04:13 -0500 From: Michael Bernstein X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: PCMCIA Ethernet on 760ED X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu  I was wondering what is the best PCMCIA Ethernet (10/100) card to get for the 760ED?  I'm wondering in terms of ease of use in installing, compatibility, price, and possible resource/IRQproblems I may have. My 760ED is running Windows 95 with 48MB of RAM. The card will be used for cable Internet access (fiber/coax) which would connect to a cable modem. Not too sure what software will be used in conjunction with the card for it to connect to the cable modem, but I do know that my provider will be the @Home Network. Thanks, Mike Bernstein (mbernste@castle.net) http://www.castle.net/~mbernste From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 10:16:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA087278185; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:16:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01855; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:14:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:09:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01152; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:09:03 -0500 Received: from AST01.ligsystems.com (slip166-72-214-216.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.214.216]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01141; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:08:55 -0500 Received: by AST01.ligsystems.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id HAA000.80; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 07:09:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199703181209.HAA000.80@AST01.ligsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 07:06:56 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: Lid Closed .... X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <78_146_4_858686816> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This may only help by inference but my 701C has remained this way for weeks on end with seemingly no ill effects. Of course, it's in suspend mode most of that time. Lee > > > I have a 755Ce hooked up to a port replicator, but would like > > to keep the lid shut (for use with a possible external monitor), > > will this hurt the machine? Even if I do not have an external > > monitor attached at present?? > > I'd be sure the Thinkpad's screen is off, just for the sake of > generating less heat... > > Billy Y.. > ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 10:28:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA091798899; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:28:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03838; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:26:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:23:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03400; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:23:30 -0500 Received: from mail-gw3.pacbell.net (mail-gw3.pacbell.net [206.13.28.55]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03355; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:23:16 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-117-179.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.117.179]) by mail-gw3.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id HAA17708; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 07:22:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703181522.HAA17708@mail-gw3.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Michael Bernstein" , Subject: Re: PCMCIA Ethernet on 760ED Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 07:22:50 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I know which one is available and how to get a good deal on it. Check out http://www.xircom.com/HotStuff/usoffer.html to buy either a PC Card or Cardbus version for only $99. As far as I know, only Xircom has a 10/100 PCMCIA version available. Word is that Intel and 3Com will soon offer one, but not yet. One word of caution. I bought the Cardbus version and Xircom has not been able to get it working with my TP760E and Win95 OSR2. They claim they are working on it, so I am going to wait. They have proprietary Cardbus adapters that wont allow you to use other PC Cards if you install them. These apparently work. You might play it safe and get the PC Card version. ---------- > I was wondering what is the best PCMCIA Ethernet (10/100) card to get > for the 760ED? I'm wondering in terms of ease of use in installing, > compatibility, price, and possible resource/IRQproblems I may have. My > 760ED is running Windows 95 with 48MB of RAM. The card will be used for From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 10:58:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA101470710; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:58:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08004; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:56:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:53:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07543; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:53:29 -0500 Received: from mail-d.bcc.ac.uk (mail-d.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.24]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07532; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:53:24 -0500 Received: from thinkpad (actually thinkpad.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-d.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:52:56 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970318155020.420f5086@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:50:20 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Help! How to reinstall TP760EL audio in Windows 95? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Could someone please tell me which drivers/software are needed (and any required tricks/adjustments) to install audio on TP760EL after reformatting disk and rebuilding Windows 95 from scratch? Thanks, A J Annala From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 14:14:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA003252464; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:14:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17888; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:13:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:07:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16940; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:07:53 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16901; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:07:40 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IGN5ICJXDS9GXAPV@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:07:21 MST Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:02:00 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Help! How to reinstall TP760EL audio in Windows 95? In-Reply-To: "Message dated Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:50:20 +0000" <3.0.1.16.19970318155020.420f5086@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IGN754K0549GXAPV@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Could someone please tell me which drivers/software are > needed (and any required tricks/adjustments) to install > audio on TP760EL after reformatting disk and rebuilding > Windows 95 from scratch? Go to ftp.pc.ibm.com and get /pub/pccbbs/mobiles/0listing.txt which is a listing of everything in that dir. In this you'll the latest MWave package, and perhaps later versions of other software you can use too. Most of these are archives that are expanded on to diskettes from which the install is done. Then you have the diskettes in case you need to do it again later on... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 14:36:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA030863806; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:36:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29819; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:33:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:27:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29150; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:26:57 -0500 Received: from unexexch.unex.ucla.edu (exchange.unex.ucla.edu [128.97.115.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29139; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:26:51 -0500 Received: by unexexch.unex.ucla.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC338F.39305520@unexexch.unex.ucla.edu>; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:26:29 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Swartz, Charles" To: "Chaplin@emarkt.com" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: CD Rom Drives Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:18:12 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm using the new Panasonic 8x PCMCIA exterior drive on my 560, and it works fine. I can get another card in (the modem) if I want. The unit takes 6 AA's, or external AC. It even contains some speakers that (sort of play) stereo. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Charles S. Swartz Program Manager Department of Entertainment Studies and Performing Arts (ESPA) UCLA Extension 310-825-9634 Phone 310-206-7435 Fax cswartz@unex.ucla.edu 10995 Le Conte Ave. Los Angeles, CA 90024 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ---------- From: Tim Tyhurst[SMTP:tim@excelsior.com] Sent: Monday, March 17, 1997 10:16 AM To: Chaplin@emarkt.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CD Rom Drives > I wish to buy a CD Romdrive for my Thinkpad 760 LD but cannot decide > whether to purchase the IBM internal version or an external PCMCIA or > parallel port drive. > > If anyone has experience of any please could they share those > experiences with me to assist in my decision. I recently purchased a Sony 4X CD-ROM Discman (one of the refurbished ones that Insight was selling recently) for my 760C. The unit itself works fine, but there are two annoyances: 1. The connection cable is too thick at the PCMCIA card end, making it impossible to use the unit at the same time as another PCMCIA card that requires an external connector. I called Sony Canada about this, and got a polite "no, we've never heard of problems like that before; that's the only cable we have". Plastic surgery on the cable may fix this problem, but I haven't had time to try. 2. Power. As someone else on the list remarked, it's irritating to try to locate an electrical outlet that can handle two largish AC adapters. On the other hand, the Sony does come with a clip-on pack that lets you insert 4 AA batteris and run it from that. You can also buy an internal Li-Ion battery for the unit, too, which fits right inside the drive, for another $60 US or so. On the plus side, the PCMCIA card that comes with the unit is reputedly a standard Adaptec SlimSCSI 1460A, which is handy for using the unit for other devices. You do have to purchase an additional cable from Adaptec, though. Also, you can use the drive as a regular CD-player, when it's not connected to the computer. In all, for $120 US (refurbished), I'm reaonably pleased with it. I've used it with Linux and Win95 so far. Since I have an additional hard disk in the UltraBay on a semi-permanent basis, an external CD-ROM works well for me. On the other hand, my 760C won't accomodate an internal CD-ROM anyway. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 15:05:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA065815537; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:05:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03247; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:03:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:59:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02618; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:59:24 -0500 Received: from darius.concentric.net ([207.155.184.79]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02604; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:59:18 -0500 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.184.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/03/03 3.23)) id OAA23366; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:59:10 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from 760-ed (cnc137032.concentric.net [206.173.215.32]) by newman.concentric.net (8.8.5) id OAA03161; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:59:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703181959.OAA03161@newman.concentric.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:59:03 +0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Help! How to reinstall TP760EL audio in Windows 95? Reply-To: phong@concentric.net Priority: normal References: "Message dated Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:50:20 +0000" <3.0.1.16.19970318155020.420f5086@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <01IGN754K0549GXAPV@Opus1.COM> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu For what it worth, instead of looking through an index and searching for the files that you need, go this Thinkpad support site. http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/refs.html All the files that you need are here through links. Kudos to IBM for finally making some sense out of its FTP site. ... patrick > > Could someone please tell me which drivers/software are > > needed (and any required tricks/adjustments) to install > > audio on TP760EL after reformatting disk and rebuilding > > Windows 95 from scratch? > > Go to ftp.pc.ibm.com and get /pub/pccbbs/mobiles/0listing.txt > which is a listing of everything in that dir. In this you'll > the latest MWave package, and perhaps later versions of other > software you can use too. Most of these are archives that > are expanded on to diskettes from which the install is done. > Then you have the diskettes in case you need to do it again > later on... > > Billy Y.. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@concentric.net (613) 769-1544 Tel phong@connectinc.com (613) 728-4063 Fax From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 15:12:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA073215912; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:11:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04011; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:08:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:04:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03385; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:04:55 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03375; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:04:51 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id PAA24638; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:03:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:03:49 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: PCMCIA SCSI and CD Rom Drives In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Here's a followup report to the question I asked a couple days ago. I ended up buying at a local store and playing the if-it- doesn't-work-return-it game. I started with the Panasonic 8x CD-ROM drive. Linux didn't like the card. I hacked the PCMCIA config files so it would recognize the controller, but Panasonic must be using a different version of the QLogic chipset in this SCSI2 card. The QLogic module, which works with the 4x drive's SCSI controller, doesn't work with the 8x's controller. So I got an Adaptec 1460A. Linux recognized it, but the card couldn't see the CD-ROM drive. (Well, it could see it under Win95 but we all know how DOS/Win doesn't care about important things like interrupts and stuff.) Lots of people reported that the Adaptec SCSI2 controller recognized just about anything under the sun, so my guess is the SCSI2 interface on the Panasonic 8x is nonstandard somehow. So back went the drive. I got the 4x which lots of people have reported success with under Linux, and indeed it worked. I daisychained it with a SCSI zip drive and everything is recognized. I swapped the Adaptec card for the Panasonic and everything still worked.* Hot plugging works with both cards as well. I'm debating now whether to return the Adaptec and stick with the Panasonic controller. The only other incidents of note are the cable adapters. They're a mess. Zip drives use the Mac 25-pin plug. The Panasonic uses the 50-pin high density SCSI2 plug. And the Adaptec comes with a 50-pin centronics SCSI plug. Cables that convert from one to the other for plugging between devices (male on both ends) are plentiful. Gender changers and adapters for changing between the types are nearly nonexistent. I had to get a SCSI2->MacSCSI adapter from PC Connection to be able to use the Zip drive. Even then, the sales guy I talked to had to visit the warehouse to look at the thing to make sure it was what we thought it was. These things are also damned expensive. $15-$25 for an adapter, $25-$40 for a cable. I hope this is useful for others considering a SCSI controller under Linux. * Some people reported the Panasonic 4x SCSI2 controller hung linux until they patched the module with a one-number change to the source code. I'd already done this trying to get the 8x controller to work. It works now, so I'm not going to bother testing it with the original module. -- John H. Kim jokim@tuna.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 18:50:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA233769023; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:50:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25950; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:47:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:43:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25564; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:43:15 -0500 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25551; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:43:05 -0500 Received: from cais.cais.com (rj@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/cais-andrew-jdf) with SMTP id SAA13126 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:43:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:43:02 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Third Party Memory for the TP701 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've located a 32MB RAM module from The Chip Merchant, they say it has NEC chip and the module is manufactured by Cubic(sp?). Also, the module is not TP approved but it comes with a lifetime replacement if due to manuf. defect. The price is very tempting, $355; actually worryingly so! Has anyone had any dealings, good or, esp. bad with either The Chip Merchant and/or the 701/32MB module or any other board by that manufacturer and willing to share the experience? Thanks!! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 19:18:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA246040714; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:18:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28091; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:08:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:04:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27683; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:04:20 -0500 Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27666; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:04:12 -0500 Received: from sfupc.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:01:13 PST Received: by sfupc.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC33B6.38BFF560@sfupc.Triumf.CA>; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:05:38 -0800 Message-Id: <01BC33B6.38BFF560@sfupc.Triumf.CA> From: tisol To: "'rj'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Third Party Memory for the TP701 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:05:37 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Many..many people have bought from them. They are fine. BTW the price actually seems high for them . The 16 MB is usually about $115. ...peter... ---------- From: rj[SMTP:rj@cais.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 1997 10:43 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Third Party Memory for the TP701 I've located a 32MB RAM module from The Chip Merchant, they say it has NEC chip and the module is manufactured by Cubic(sp?). Also, the module is not TP approved but it comes with a lifetime replacement if due to manuf. defect. The price is very tempting, $355; actually worryingly so! Has anyone had any dealings, good or, esp. bad with either The Chip Merchant and/or the 701/32MB module or any other board by that manufacturer and willing to share the experience? Thanks!! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 20:18:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA276254282; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:18:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03687; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:13:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:11:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03483; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:10:57 -0500 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03469; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:10:49 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-121-42.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.121.42]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA26959; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:42:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703190042.QAA26959@mail-gw.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "rj" , Subject: Re: Third Party Memory for the TP701 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:43:16 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I know nothing about the 32MB module for the TP701, but Chip Merchant has been around for at least 10 years in San Diego. I have dealt with them many times and they are reputable. ---------- > From: rj > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Third Party Memory for the TP701 > Date: Tuesday, March 18, 1997 3:43 PM > > I've located a 32MB RAM module from The Chip Merchant, they > say it has NEC chip and the module is manufactured by Cubic(sp?). > Also, the module is not TP approved but it comes with a lifetime > replacement if due to manuf. defect. The price is very tempting, $355; > actually worryingly so! > > Has anyone had any dealings, good or, esp. bad with either The > Chip Merchant and/or the 701/32MB module or any other board by that > manufacturer and willing to share the experience? > > Thanks!! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 20:44:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA286555870; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:44:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06994; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:34:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:31:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06288; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:31:12 -0500 Received: from mail12.digital.com (mail12.digital.com [192.208.46.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06228; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:30:57 -0500 Received: from hgcs04.hgo.dec.com by mail12.digital.com (8.7.5/UNX 1.5/1.0/WV) id UAA02453; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:29:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by hgcs04.hgo.dec.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC3448.6497C950@hgcs04.hgo.dec.com>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:31:58 +0800 Message-Id: From: David Liu To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: How to replace the 755CE keyboard (with Trackpoint button) with new parts Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:31:56 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi All, I would like to know if anyone have tried to replace/dissamble the 755CE keyboard. Since my 755CE 's mouse button is not responsive at all. Best Regards, David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 18 21:24:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA298208270; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 21:24:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11260; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 21:17:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 21:13:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10759; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 21:13:18 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10746; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 21:13:09 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA20216; Tue, 18 Mar 97 16:12:56 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA19514; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:13:47 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199703190213.QAA19514@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Third Party Memory for the TP701 To: rj@cais.com (rj) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 16:13:45 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "rj" at Mar 18, 97 6:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Has anyone had any dealings, good or, esp. bad with either The > Chip Merchant and/or the 701/32MB module or any other board by that > manufacturer and willing to share the experience? I bought a 16 meg from them last year, not only was the price right and delivery prompt but it was also a genuine IBM part (which I hadn't expected at the price). BTW, I will be selling this module as soon as my 560 arrives; does anyone know what the fair market price for these chips is slightly used? - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 01:49:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA078044197; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:49:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02033; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:48:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:45:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01728; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:45:12 -0500 Received: from AST01.ligsystems.com (slip166-72-214-97.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.214.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01703; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:45:04 -0500 Received: by AST01.ligsystems.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id WAA000.62; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:46:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199703190346.WAA000.62@AST01.ligsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 22:40:26 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: Third Party Memory for the TP701 X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <61_135_4_858742826> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Just a note of caution (I'm always saying this), You've got a machine with a three warranty, do you want to invalidate the remainder of that to save a couple of hundred bucks? There's no "right" answer but I've got two and a quarter years left on mine and I think the odds are that it will need some kind of repair in that time; so I'll spend the buck and put IBM approved memory in it. That's just my take on it. BTWm I've used Chip Merchant and never had a problem with them. Lee > > I know nothing about the 32MB module for the TP701, but Chip Merchant has > been around for at least 10 years in San Diego. I have dealt with them > many times and they are reputable. > > ---------- > > From: rj > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Third Party Memory for the TP701 > > Date: Tuesday, March 18, 1997 3:43 PM > > > > I've located a 32MB RAM module from The Chip Merchant, they > > say it has NEC chip and the module is manufactured by Cubic(sp?). > > Also, the module is not TP approved but it comes with a lifetime > > replacement if due to manuf. defect. The price is very tempting, $355; > > actually worryingly so! > > > > Has anyone had any dealings, good or, esp. bad with either The > > Chip Merchant and/or the 701/32MB module or any other board by that > > manufacturer and willing to share the experience? > > > > Thanks!! > ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 06:51:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA157922285; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:51:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01639; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:50:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:47:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01393; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:47:37 -0500 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01382; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:47:27 -0500 Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (actually rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:45:05 +0100 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BC3463.5C4406E0@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:45:01 +0100 Message-Id: <01BC3463.5C4406E0@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: Axel Hartmann To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: what is cardbus?, was: PCMCIA Ethernet on 760ED Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:31:02 +0100 Encoding: 30 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu hi, what is the card bus vs. the pc-card? i take from the context that it is used in the pc-card-slot... is it proprietary or "just" the new version of pc-card? axel [...] >http://www.xircom.com/HotStuff/usoffer.html to buy either a PC Card or >Cardbus version for only $99. As far as I know, only Xircom has a 10/100 >PCMCIA version available. Word is that Intel and 3Com will soon offer one, >but not yet. > >One word of caution. I bought the Cardbus version and Xircom has not been >able to get it working with my TP760E and Win95 OSR2. They claim they are >working on it, so I am going to wait. > >They have proprietary Cardbus adapters that wont allow you to use other PC >Cards if you install them. These apparently work. You might play it safe >and get the PC Card version. > ....................................................................... . Axel Hartmann . . Paper : Blumenstr. 15; 76133 Karlsruhe; Germany . Voice : [0|xx49] 721 - 27115 . . E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . ....................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 07:19:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA164703993; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:19:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03224; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:19:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:17:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03075; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:17:23 -0500 Received: from mail.microserve.net (mail.microserve.net [207.44.0.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03064; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:17:18 -0500 Received: from eye.microserve.net (eye.microserve.com [198.70.182.26]) by mail.microserve.net (8.8.5/naISPa) with ESMTP id HAA27596 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:17:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703191217.HAA27596@mail.microserve.net> From: "joseph pugliese" To: Subject: midi files problem Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:19:56 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu my midi files will not play with current mmw software setup/ Any help will be appreciated. Joseph pugliese From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 08:50:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA190229441; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:50:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10378; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:49:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:46:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09809; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:45:58 -0500 Received: from mail-gw3.pacbell.net (mail-gw3.pacbell.net [206.13.28.55]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09794; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:45:53 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-117-136.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.117.136]) by mail-gw3.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id FAA21916; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 05:45:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703191345.FAA21916@mail-gw3.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Axel Hartmann" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: what is cardbus?, was: PCMCIA Ethernet on 760ED Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 05:40:44 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Cardbus is a 32 bit PCI version of the PC Card standard. This extra bandwidth is important for things like 100mbps ethernet and video capture. The TP760E models have this feature. Only Win95 OSR2 has native drivers for this interface. Xircom provides proprietary socket services for older operating systems. > what is the card bus vs. the pc-card? i take from the > context that it is used in the pc-card-slot... is > it proprietary or "just" the new version of pc-card? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 10:45:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA227156341; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:45:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21581; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:43:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:39:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21129; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:39:11 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21107; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:39:04 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-30.usc.edu [128.125.223.174]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id HAA06375; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:38:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970319073923.007608b4@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:40:06 -0800 To: laniear@ibm.net From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Third Party Memory for the TP701 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:40 PM 3/18/97 -0800, laniear@ibm.net wrote: > >Just a note of caution (I'm always saying this), You've got a machine with a three >warranty, do you want to invalidate the remainder of that to save a couple of hundred >bucks? There's no "right" answer but I've got two and a quarter years left on mine and I >think the odds are that it will need some kind of repair in that time; so I'll spend the >buck and put IBM approved memory in it. That's just my take on it. A caveat: Unless your memory module causes the problem with the machine, then you can take the module out when you send it in to fix some other problem (keyboard, etc.) and IBM will never have known you had non-ThinkPad-approved memory in it. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 11:44:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA247919881; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:44:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28925; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:42:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:34:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28001; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:34:54 -0500 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27985; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:34:46 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx12-24.teleport.com [206.163.124.121]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA29035 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:34:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:34:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703191634.IAA29035@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: Third Party Memory for the TP701 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Re: Non approved memory...I can't imagine how it could hurt anything other than your pocket book if it didn't work. Possibly damage the slot?... Has ANYONE actually tried a 32 meg chip in a 701? BD From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 13:16:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA278615389; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:16:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08947; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:13:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:09:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08381; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:09:12 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08362; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:09:03 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA21690; Wed, 19 Mar 97 08:08:55 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA26770; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:09:47 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199703191809.IAA26770@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Third Party Memory for the TP701 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 8:09:45 HST In-Reply-To: <199703191634.IAA29035@kim.teleport.com>; from "Bryan Daum" at Mar 19, 97 8:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Has ANYONE actually tried a 32 meg chip in a 701? And is it a noticeable improvement over 16 megs? I thought that the 'sweet spot' for Windows 3.1 was around 12 megs (20 megs for Win95), and anything extra only made a noticeable improvement on systems with a big L2 cache. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 13:57:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA291317842; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:57:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12836; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:53:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:51:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12604; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:51:18 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu (rho.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12593; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:51:13 -0500 Received: from ibmtp701c.lin.org ([128.97.149.251]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA47126 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:51:07 -0800 Received: by ibmtp701c.lin.org with Microsoft Mail id <01BC3453.A0121200@ibmtp701c.lin.org>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:52:23 -0800 Message-Id: <01BC3453.A0121200@ibmtp701c.lin.org> From: Eddy Lin To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Recommendations for TP701 HD Upgrade? Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:52:12 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I have been considering and shopping around for HD upgrade (from 540Mb = to about 1.3 to 2.0Gb) for my 701C. The thing that's stopping me is that = I can't find any dealer that carries a drive with the 701 caddy at a = good price. I have compared specs and it seems IBM drives are higher = performance than Toshiba drive but they are real hard to find. Bare = drives are at good prices now but IBM can't find and probably won't sell = me an empty caddy to put the drive in, I would prefer to be able to use = the original drive for a second OS. Anyone has any recommendations or = sources? Thanks much. Eddy From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 14:48:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA008290896; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:48:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17943; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:45:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:41:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17603; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:41:27 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17591; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:41:08 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-b-53.usc.edu [128.125.222.53]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id LAA15304; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:40:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970319114019.006e6b44@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:42:01 -0800 To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Third Party Memory for the TP701 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:09 AM 3/19/97 HST, David Ross wrote: >> Has ANYONE actually tried a 32 meg chip in a 701? > >And is it a noticeable improvement over 16 megs? I thought that the >'sweet spot' for Windows 3.1 was around 12 megs (20 megs for Win95), >and anything extra only made a noticeable improvement on systems with >a big L2 cache. Its hard to say definitively, but I'd be willing to suggest that it does. I have a total of 24 MB in my 560, and I notice a significant difference when I have 3 or 4 programs going (Eudora, First Class, Netscape--all with an active dial-up connection) and try to load up another "biggie" (Word, Excel, Pagemaker, etc.) vs. If I load a biggie without anything else already loaded. I wish I had more memory--I believe it would make a significant difference. I posted sometime back that according to Norton Utilities, my base Win 95 setup (with the little extras loaded, like Norton Navigator utils) uses up something like 30 MB RAM just by booting up and sitting there without any additional software loaded. The Win 95 kernel alone (without *any* fancy stuff--i.e., networking capability) takes up 12 MB RAM. No question about it--lots of memory is useful. Under Win 3.1, I considered anything over 16 MB to be a waste for most people (unless you loaded huge Photoshop files or something) because it didn't handle the memory well anyway. But under Win 95--I wouldn't call any memory amount a "waste" until you got somewhere in the realm of over 48 MB. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 15:19:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA020572753; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:19:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21406; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:12:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:09:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20914; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:09:27 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20900; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:09:21 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA22307; Wed, 19 Mar 97 10:09:17 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA27816; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:10:06 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199703192010.KAA27816@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: 16 v 32 on TP (was: Third Party Memory for the TP701) To: rwhittle@usa.net (Randy Whittle) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 10:10:03 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970319114019.006e6b44@scf.usc.edu>; from "Randy Whittle" at Mar 19, 97 11:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Randy Whittle writes: > difference. I posted sometime back that according to Norton Utilities, my > base Win 95 setup (with the little extras loaded, like Norton Navigator > utils) uses up something like 30 MB RAM just by booting up and sitting > there without any additional software loaded. The Win 95 kernel alone > (without *any* fancy stuff--i.e., networking capability) takes up 12 MB RAM. What is NU really reporting here? I've run Win95 w/only 8 megs, and while it is sometimes horribly slow, at other times it runs fine w/no HD access visible. A fair fraction of this kernel must therefore be fairly irrelevant, and Windows must be smart enough to page it to disk and keep it there. (Good grief, I've just used 'Windows' and 'smart' in a sentence not containing the word 'not'!) The reason I raised the question is that the price difference between a 16 meg dimm and a 32 meg dimm is very substantial, and to me wouldn't be worthwhile unless software actually ran faster at times other than when it was being loaded. (Common 'wisdom' on comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips is that too much memory can actually slow a system down! I don't know whether to believe it.) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 15:36:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA026463808; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:36:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24180; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:33:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:30:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23933; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:30:46 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23914; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:30:38 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-b-53.usc.edu [128.125.222.53]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id MAA04542; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:29:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970319123028.006e8a8c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:30:40 -0800 To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: 16 v 32 on TP (was: Third Party Memory for the TP701) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:10 AM 3/19/97 HST, David Ross wrote: >Randy Whittle writes: > >> difference. I posted sometime back that according to Norton Utilities, my >> base Win 95 setup (with the little extras loaded, like Norton Navigator >> utils) uses up something like 30 MB RAM just by booting up and sitting >> there without any additional software loaded. The Win 95 kernel alone >> (without *any* fancy stuff--i.e., networking capability) takes up 12 MB RAM. > >What is NU really reporting here? I've run Win95 w/only 8 megs, and >while it is sometimes horribly slow, at other times it runs fine w/no >HD access visible. A fair fraction of this kernel must therefore be >fairly irrelevant, and Windows must be smart enough to page it to disk >and keep it there. Actually, that's not a NU reported figure--that 12 MB kernel thing was something I read in some computer magazine (I think PC/Computing, but don't recall--it was some months ago. It might even have been off of some Microsoft technotes). At any rate, *any* time stuff is paged off to disk, that's a performance degradation. Ideally, you have enough RAM to hold this stuff so it *doesn't* have to resort to using any virtual memory. >The reason I raised the question is that the price difference between >a 16 meg dimm and a 32 meg dimm is very substantial, and to me >wouldn't be worthwhile unless software actually ran faster at times >other than when it was being loaded. More memory will not in itself "run software faster". The point is whether at any time code is being paged off to the hard drive because there wasn't enough RAM to hold it all. *That's* the point where more memory would be useful and in the sense that the machine isn't forced to resort to using virtual memory, it is "faster". >(Common 'wisdom' on >comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips is that too much memory can actually slow >a system down! I don't know whether to believe it.) In a theoretical sense, this can indeed be true under certain situations. But I think it's crap, when it comes to actual practice under real-world circumstances. You will simply *not* be faced with a situation where your machine's performance will degrade if you move from 24 MB to 48 MB RAM--or even up to 96 MB RAM. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 15:46:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA029784378; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:46:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25514; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:43:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:40:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25072; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:40:38 -0500 Received: from bnl.gov ([130.199.128.163]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25048; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:40:30 -0500 Received: from sun2.bnl.gov (sun2.bnl.gov [130.199.74.35]) by bnl.gov (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA02264; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:40:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by sun2.bnl.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA06195; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:40:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:40:11 -0500 From: bstewart@sun2.bnl.gov (Bruce Stewart) Message-Id: <199703192040.PAA06195@sun2.bnl.gov> To: ross@math.hawaii.edu, rwhittle@usa.net Subject: Re: 16 v 32 on TP Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My understanding is that the relation between L2 cache size and maximum efficiently usable RAM applies to non-EDO memory only. As I recall, 256K cache are needed for each 16 MB. For EDO memory, there is no such restriction. Of course there may be other considerations. For example, I have heard of cases where memory above 16MB was unusable because a certain Trident video card reserved addresses around 16MB. (And according to the ancients, no one would ever need more than 64KB.) -Bruce From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 16:56:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA052468597; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:56:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04144; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:54:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:47:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03204; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:47:04 -0500 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03180; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:46:50 -0500 Received: from cais.cais.com (rj@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/cais-andrew-jdf) with SMTP id QAA24817; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:45:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:45:55 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: David Ross Cc: Randy Whittle , ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 16 v 32 on TP (was: Third Party Memory for the TP701) In-Reply-To: <199703192010.KAA27816@tarski.hawaii.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My interest in the 32 MB module is for running NT 4.0 with the hope that system response would improve significantly, or somewhat more than noticeably, since I run some memory hogs. I spoke to a sysop at a shop that runs NT 3.51 on their work stations, normally with 32 MB, and he said that the performance increase should be noticeable but not enough to justify the cost and that a new box was a better way to go. As an aside, with 24 MB the 701 performs better with NT 4.0 than with Win95. It's more responsive although it does take longer to load and does not have some of features that 95 has that are useful for a notebook. On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, David Ross wrote: > Randy Whittle writes: > > > difference. I posted sometime back that according to Norton Utilities, my > > base Win 95 setup (with the little extras loaded, like Norton Navigator > > utils) uses up something like 30 MB RAM just by booting up and sitting > > there without any additional software loaded. The Win 95 kernel alone > > (without *any* fancy stuff--i.e., networking capability) takes up 12 MB RAM. > > What is NU really reporting here? I've run Win95 w/only 8 megs, and > while it is sometimes horribly slow, at other times it runs fine w/no > HD access visible. A fair fraction of this kernel must therefore be > fairly irrelevant, and Windows must be smart enough to page it to disk > and keep it there. (Good grief, I've just used 'Windows' and 'smart' > in a sentence not containing the word 'not'!) > > The reason I raised the question is that the price difference between > a 16 meg dimm and a 32 meg dimm is very substantial, and to me > wouldn't be worthwhile unless software actually ran faster at times > other than when it was being loaded. (Common 'wisdom' on > comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips is that too much memory can actually slow > a system down! I don't know whether to believe it.) > > - David > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 18:53:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA087375600; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:53:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08778; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:36:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:34:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08339; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:34:00 -0500 Received: from sumter.awod.com (awod.com [198.81.225.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08320; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:33:54 -0500 Received: from chs0096.awod.com (chs0096.awod.com [208.140.96.96]) by sumter.awod.com (8.7.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA29386 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:33:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by chs0096.awod.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC348B.B675C040@chs0096.awod.com>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:33:52 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC348B.B675C040@chs0096.awod.com> From: Brian Wohlwinder To: "Thinkpad (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Recommendations for TP701 HD Upgrade? Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:33:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've also tried to find a caddy, with the same luck. On a side note, A = week ago I swapped my 340 for a Toshiba 1301mav. Formatted with fat32, = works like a champ. It is slightly noisier than the OEM. The black = tape/shielding on the OEM may account for this. With 1.3g my 701 should = prove useful for another year or so. If you do find a cheep source for = the caddies, please tell the list. Brian Hi, I have been considering and shopping around for HD upgrade (from 540Mb = to about 1.3 to 2.0Gb) for my 701C. The thing that's stopping me is that = I can't find any dealer that carries a drive with the 701 caddy at a = good price. I have compared specs and it seems IBM drives are higher = performance than Toshiba drive but they are real hard to find. Bare = drives are at good prices now but IBM can't find and probably won't sell = me an empty caddy to put the drive in, I would prefer to be able to use = the original drive for a second OS. Anyone has any recommendations or = sources? Thanks much. Eddy From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 20:40:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA117422025; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:40:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21685; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:38:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:37:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21557; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:36:59 -0500 Received: from emout11.mail.aol.com (emout11.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21547; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:36:55 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout11.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA08072 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:36:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:36:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970319203550_-968988907@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Audio/MIDI device gone Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In a message dated 97-03-17 16:41:26 EST, you write: << Subj: Audio/MIDI device gone Date: 97-03-17 16:41:26 EST From: jfe@cimtek.on.ca (James F. Egan) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Gentle folks, Somehow I have deleted the midi and sound device on my TP760C under W95. Not sure how, but when trying to reconfigure the modem/serial ports it has affected the sound device. Now the Thinkpad Features utility reports "No midi port installed". After Running the Self Test (F1 key held down at powerup), it reports an error on the DSP. Now, I am not sure how to add back in the midi/wave/audio devices (no hardware found under W95 'add hardware') and am not sure if the DSP is actually damaged or not working. Does anyone know how to add the DSP midi/wave back in? FYI it reported DEV 113, ERR 48, FRU 1610 on the DSP test. Not sure what to do with this data at this point. Any help would be appreciated. thx >> You might try downloading the software off of IBM's ThinkPad Support page on the web. BTW, have you tried calling them? Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 23:01:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA161840500; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:01:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04706; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:59:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:55:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04048; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:55:35 -0500 Received: from lucius.ultra.net (lucius.ultra.net [199.232.56.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04030; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:55:28 -0500 Received: from cleopatra.ultra.net (cleopatra.ultra.net [199.232.56.35]) by lucius.ultra.net (8.8.5/ult1.05) with ESMTP id WAA02250 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:55:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from chenoweth.ultranet.com (kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com [205.246.12.253]) by cleopatra.ultra.net (8.8.5/ult1.04) with ESMTP id WAA12340 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kendall@localhost) by chenoweth.ultranet.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id WAA00383 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:55:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:55:18 -0500 (EST) From: Kendall Don Chenoweth X-Sender: kendall@kendall.chenoweth.net To: IBM Thinkpad Listserv Subject: thinkpad 750 sound and win95 (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello! Does anybody have Windows 95 installed on a thinkpad 750. Does this configuration recognize the sound blaster emulation on the thinkpad? Kendall kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com http://www.ultranet.com/~kendall 20 Eames Street, Apt #19 Fidelity Investments, Systems Company Framingham, MA 01704 VOICE (508) 787-7744 VOICE (508) 626-2686 PAGER (800) 759-8888 [beeper #2128450] DATA/FAX (508) 628-9283 http://www.fidelity.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 23:01:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA161850500; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:01:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04720; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:59:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:56:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04168; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:56:32 -0500 Received: from lucius.ultra.net (lucius.ultra.net [199.232.56.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04144; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:56:23 -0500 Received: from cleopatra.ultra.net (cleopatra.ultra.net [199.232.56.35]) by lucius.ultra.net (8.8.5/ult1.05) with ESMTP id WAA05927 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:56:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from chenoweth.ultranet.com (kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com [205.246.12.253]) by cleopatra.ultra.net (8.8.5/ult1.04) with ESMTP id WAA12088 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:56:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kendall@localhost) by chenoweth.ultranet.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id WAA00392 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:56:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:56:13 -0500 (EST) From: Kendall Don Chenoweth X-Sender: kendall@kendall.chenoweth.net To: IBM Thinkpad Listserv Subject: doom2 w/ sound on 750 in win 3.1 (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello! Does anybody have Doom II working with sound on the thinkpad 750? How? Kendall kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com http://www.ultranet.com/~kendall 20 Eames Street, Apt #19 Fidelity Investments, Systems Company Framingham, MA 01704 VOICE (508) 787-7744 VOICE (508) 626-2686 PAGER (800) 759-8888 [beeper #2128450] DATA/FAX (508) 628-9283 http://www.fidelity.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 23:12:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA165681160; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:12:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06413; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:11:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:08:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05968; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:08:15 -0500 Received: from lucius.ultra.net (lucius.ultra.net [199.232.56.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05956; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:08:09 -0500 Received: from cleopatra.ultra.net (cleopatra.ultra.net [199.232.56.35]) by lucius.ultra.net (8.8.5/ult1.05) with ESMTP id XAA27514 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:08:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from chenoweth.ultranet.com (kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com [205.246.12.253]) by cleopatra.ultra.net (8.8.5/ult1.04) with ESMTP id XAA14584 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:08:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kendall@localhost) by chenoweth.ultranet.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id XAA00467 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:08:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:07:57 -0500 (EST) From: Kendall Don Chenoweth X-Sender: kendall@kendall.chenoweth.net To: IBM Thinkpad Listserv Subject: apm on thinkpad 750/linux Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello!! I am running linux 2.0.37 on an ibm thinkpad 750. The apm seems to work, but fails to recharge the battery once the system is on ac. Has anybody else experienced this problem (or does anybody running linux *not* have this problem? I should also mentio n that I'm using apmd 2.4 that I compiled locally. Thanks, Kendall kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com http://www.ultranet.com/~kendall 20 Eames Street, Apt #19 Fidelity Investments, Systems Company Framingham, MA 01704 VOICE (508) 787-7744 VOICE (508) 626-2686 PAGER (800) 759-8888 [beeper #2128450] DATA/FAX (508) 628-9283 http://www.fidelity.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 23:26:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA169841983; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:26:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07915; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:25:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:22:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07673; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:22:53 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07663; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:22:50 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id XAA29080; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:21:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:21:46 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Kendall Don Chenoweth Cc: IBM Thinkpad Listserv Subject: Re: apm on thinkpad 750/linux In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Kendall Don Chenoweth wrote: > > I am running linux 2.0.37 on an ibm thinkpad 750. The apm seems to > work, but fails to recharge the battery once the system is on ac. Has > anybody else experienced this problem (or does anybody running linux *not* > have this problem? I should also mention that I'm using apmd 2.4 that I > compiled locally. Back when I had a 750, I ran Linux 1.2.8 without the APM. I had no problems with recharging. Eventually the battery went bad and wouldn't show the correct voltage for the 750 to recharge it, but that happened under all OSes, not just Linux. -- John H. Kim jokim@tuna.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 23:29:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA171682194; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:29:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04898; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:01:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:57:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04297; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:57:36 -0500 Received: from lucius.ultra.net (lucius.ultra.net [199.232.56.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04286; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:57:29 -0500 Received: from cleopatra.ultra.net (cleopatra.ultra.net [199.232.56.35]) by lucius.ultra.net (8.8.5/ult1.05) with ESMTP id WAA00599 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from chenoweth.ultranet.com (kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com [205.246.12.253]) by cleopatra.ultra.net (8.8.5/ult1.04) with ESMTP id WAA12451 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:57:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kendall@localhost) by chenoweth.ultranet.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id WAA00401 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:57:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:57:16 -0500 (EST) From: Kendall Don Chenoweth X-Sender: kendall@kendall.chenoweth.net To: IBM Thinkpad Listserv Subject: listserv for gateway laptops? (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello! Does anybody know of a listserv or newsgroup for Gateway laptops? Kendall kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com http://www.ultranet.com/~kendall 20 Eames Street, Apt #19 Fidelity Investments, Systems Company Framingham, MA 01704 VOICE (508) 787-7744 VOICE (508) 626-2686 PAGER (800) 759-8888 [beeper #2128450] DATA/FAX (508) 628-9283 http://www.fidelity.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 19 23:43:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA175432986; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:43:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09559; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:41:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:39:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09130; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:38:56 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09114; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:38:49 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA06254; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:33:34 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199703200433.XAA06254@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: apm on thinkpad 750/linux In-Reply-To: from Kendall Don Chenoweth at "Mar 19, 97 11:07:57 pm" To: kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com (Kendall Don Chenoweth) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:33:34 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As far as I know, you cannot get Doom/Doom2 to work with sound on the 750. Sound blaster emulation on the 750 is done through software, and it is very imperfect at best. You can get sound under Win95 using the audio drivers, but I doubt you can actually get SB emulation. It might be possible to run the emulator under a DOS window, but I've never tried this. Lastly, there is no Linux 2.0.37 (I assume you mean 2.0.27). APM works fine for me, for the most part. The APM support under Linux has trouble with screen blanking on the 750. On a side note, I've been trying to contact the IBM employee who managed to get the Linux sound driver to work on the 750, with no luck. After a half an hour of fiddling with the 1848 and WSS sound drivers, I concluded that progress wasn't going to be easy without any technical specs on the audio system from IBM. Not that this is important... Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@vec.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu world rejoiced. Try to live your life Virtual Endoscopy Center so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 00:01:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA181064078; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:01:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11861; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:59:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:56:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11453; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:56:53 -0500 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11442; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:56:49 -0500 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA49822; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:56:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:56:01 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Help with 2.1GB on 755cd Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I bought an IBM DCRA-22160 hard drive which is the 17mm 2.1GB IDE hard drive that IBM sells. I've put it into a spare caddy aand plugged it in and I get error message 174 on my 755CD. I've tried a different hard drive with the same caddy and connector and it works. Is there something special I have to do to use the 2.1GB hard drive?? All I've had until now in this machine was a 540MB. I've tried with a bootable Dos disk in the floppy drive but I still get the Error 174 and no way to get into Easysetup. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 00:21:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA187835277; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:21:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13615; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:17:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:15:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13219; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:15:01 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13205; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:14:51 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-36.usc.edu [128.125.223.180]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id VAA14609; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:14:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970319211512.006e4f94@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:15:18 -0800 To: Kendall Don Chenoweth From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: listserv for gateway laptops? (fwd) Cc: IBM Thinkpad Listserv Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:57 PM 3/19/97 -0500, Kendall Don Chenoweth wrote: > Does anybody know of a listserv or newsgroup for Gateway laptops? You blaspheme!!! ;-) ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 00:22:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA188115338; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:22:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10668; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:51:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:48:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10284; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:48:10 -0500 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10256; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:48:01 -0500 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA09960; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:47:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:47:12 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Recommendations for TP701 HD Upgrade? In-Reply-To: <01BC3453.A0121200@ibmtp701c.lin.org> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I found a company that sells caddies for the 755 series. They may have caddies for the 701 as well. The company name is Compu-D, phone number is (818) 787-3282. The 755 caddies were $75 which is a bit pricey but I needed a few of them. The caddies are used, so there are some scratchmarks on them, but they serve the purpose, and I'm satisfied. On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Eddy Lin wrote: > Hi, > I have been considering and shopping around for HD upgrade (from 540Mb > to about 1.3 to 2.0Gb) for my 701C. The thing that's stopping me is that > I can't find any dealer that carries a drive with the 701 caddy at a > good price. I have compared specs and it seems IBM drives are higher > performance than Toshiba drive but they are real hard to find. Bare > drives are at good prices now but IBM can't find and probably won't sell > me an empty caddy to put the drive in, I would prefer to be able to use > the original drive for a second OS. Anyone has any recommendations or > sources? Thanks much. > > Eddy > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 04:24:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA255749854; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:24:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02392; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:23:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:20:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01931; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:20:02 -0500 Received: from lucius.ultra.net (lucius.ultra.net [199.232.56.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01919; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:19:57 -0500 Received: from cleopatra.ultra.net (cleopatra.ultra.net [199.232.56.35]) by lucius.ultra.net (8.8.5/ult1.05) with ESMTP id EAA05237 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from chenoweth.ultranet.com (kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com [205.246.12.253]) by cleopatra.ultra.net (8.8.5/ult1.04) with ESMTP id EAA31062; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:19:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kendall@localhost) by chenoweth.ultranet.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id EAA00751; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:19:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:19:39 -0500 (EST) From: Kendall Don Chenoweth X-Sender: kendall@kendall.chenoweth.net To: Randy Whittle Cc: IBM Thinkpad Listserv Subject: Re: listserv for gateway laptops? (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970319211512.006e4f94@scf.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Randy Whittle wrote: > At 10:57 PM 3/19/97 -0500, Kendall Don Chenoweth wrote: > > Does anybody know of a listserv or newsgroup for Gateway laptops? > > You blaspheme!!! ;-) > hehehe, it's my wife laptop that's the gateway and we are having sooo much trouble with it that it isn't even funny... (no floppy drive since November!) Kendall kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com http://www.ultranet.com/~kendall 20 Eames Street, Apt #19 Fidelity Investments, Systems Company Framingham, MA 01704 VOICE (508) 787-7744 VOICE (508) 626-2686 PAGER (800) 759-8888 [beeper #2128450] DATA/FAX (508) 628-9283 http://www.fidelity.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 04:48:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA261811312; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:48:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05035; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:47:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:45:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04690; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:44:58 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04651; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:44:49 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IGPJUKWBVK9GXPGU@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 02:44:43 MST Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 02:40:20 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Help with 2.1GB on 755cd In-Reply-To: "Message dated Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:56:01 -0500 (EST)" Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IGPKA0TGP49GXPGU@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I bought an IBM DCRA-22160 hard drive which is the 17mm 2.1GB IDE hard > drive that IBM sells. I've put it into a spare caddy aand plugged it in > and I get error message 174 on my 755CD. I've tried a different hard > drive with the same caddy and connector and it works. Is there something > special I have to do to use the 2.1GB hard drive?? All I've had until now > in this machine was a 540MB. I've tried with a bootable Dos disk in the > floppy drive but I still get the Error 174 and no way to get into > Easysetup. Error 174 is a problem checking the installed devices. Most likely you need to update your BIOS - I have a 755CE and the latest update is for this very thing (2.1 gig disks). Someone just mentioned the web address to get this sort of thing from IBM (I don't have it handy though right now). Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 06:41:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA290208102; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:41:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22786; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:40:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:38:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22563; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:38:06 -0500 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22553; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:38:03 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA55213 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:38:00 GMT Received: from unknown(151.155.4.75) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaeWwCrx; Thu Mar 20 11:37:46 1997 Received: by nwc75.orem.novell.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC34E8.71E7B980@nwc75.orem.novell.com>; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:37:40 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC34E8.71E7B980@nwc75.orem.novell.com> From: ChinMing Kuo To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Misc questions, Drive caddy/adaptor and OSR2 on 760ED Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:37:39 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Two questions to the Thinkpad friends: 1. I am thinking of adding another 2G drive for NT installation to my 760ED. Toshiba seems to be of reasonable prices. What would be a good one and also where can I get the adapter/caddy for the 'ultra-bay'. My observation is bare drives are cheap, while those advertised specifically for thinkpad drives are outrageous. 2. What's the consensus on installing Win95 OSR2 to 760ED with XGA display? Thanks to all. Cmk@ibm.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 07:00:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU ([128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA295459205; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 07:00:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23723; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:58:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:55:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23571; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:55:47 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23551; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:55:41 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA160150; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:55:38 GMT Message-Id: <199703201155.LAA160150@out2.ibm.net> Received: from slip129-37-226-154.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.154) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smacWgDM2; Thu Mar 20 11:55:30 1997 From: "Bob Angell" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Cc: "thinkpads@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 20 Mar 97 04:55:49 Reply-To: "Bob Angell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Help with 2.1GB on 755cd Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:56:01 -0500 (EST), Joshua Hosseinof wrote: >I bought an IBM DCRA-22160 hard drive which is the 17mm 2.1GB IDE hard >drive that IBM sells. I've put it into a spare caddy aand plugged it in >and I get error message 174 on my 755CD. I've tried a different hard >drive with the same caddy and connector and it works. Is there something >special I have to do to use the 2.1GB hard drive?? All I've had until now >in this machine was a 540MB. I've tried with a bootable Dos disk in the >floppy drive but I still get the Error 174 and no way to get into >Easysetup. I had the same problem and error number. Basically, your drive is setup as Drive 1 vs. Drive 0, and the 174 is saying your do not have a drive in the bay (or it cannot detect one). You will need to do surgery on the cable so that it thinks it is Drive 0. There might be an individual on this list that can tell you how this must be done. -Bob- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 08:57:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA029246233; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:57:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04751; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:55:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:52:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04467; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:52:26 -0500 Received: from email.healthplan.com ([159.113.200.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04448; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:52:15 -0500 From: Received: from NetWare MHS (SMF71) by email.healthplan.com via Connect2-SMTP 4.00; Thu, 20 Mar 97 08:51:13 -0500 Message-Id: <9A33313381423A7C@email.healthplan.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 97 08:32:00 -0500 Sender: ggarriso%others.hpsi@healthplan.com Organization: HealthPlan Services, Inc. To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 701 Memory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="IBM-8202" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.00 MHS to SMTP Gateway Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu While there are many vendors who offer 16MB SO DIMM chips for the TP 701C/CS and fewer that offer the 32MB SO DIMM chip, only 3 are IBM approved and does not void your easyservice warranty that I have been able to determine after telephone calls and faxes to/from the manufacturers: 1. Goldenram: 32MB part # = 92G7281-GR. 16MB part # = 92G7263-GR 2. Viking: 32MB part # = I7281 16MB part # = I7263 3. Kingston: 32 MB part # = KTM-TP701/32 16 MB part # = KTM-TP701/16 I appreciate learning otherwise if anyone knows differently. Thanks, Galen TP701CS/DX4/75Mhz/720MB HDD/16MB RAM From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 09:33:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA042828429; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:33:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08930; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:32:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:29:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08578; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:29:19 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com ([198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08548; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:29:04 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA23669; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:28:26 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199703201428.JAA23669@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Misc questions, Drive caddy/adaptor and OSR2 on 760ED To: cmk@ibm.net (ChinMing Kuo) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:28:25 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <01BC34E8.71E7B980@nwc75.orem.novell.com> from "ChinMing Kuo" at Mar 20, 97 04:37:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Two questions to the Thinkpad friends: > > 1. I am thinking of adding another 2G drive for NT installation to my 760ED. > Toshiba seems to be of reasonable prices. What would be a good one and also > where can I get the adapter/caddy for the 'ultra-bay'. > My observation is bare drives are cheap, while those advertised specifically for thinkpad drives are outrageous. I've had good success with the third-party caddy made by "PS Solutions". They're in Texas, phone number is (214) 783-6996. When I bought from them a couple months back, they had two variations on their caddies: one for IBM hard drives, and one for other vendors' drives. I originally got the IBM model, but the connector was a bit too thick, and the caddy did not fit properly in my (thin) 760C. (It would have fit without difficulty in a CD-ROM capable ThinkPad, though.) So, I called PS Solutions back, and they cheerfully sent me the connectors for their non-IBM model, which are much thinner, and fits perfectly. Their non-IBM model works with IBM drives, too -- you just have to jumper the IBM drive for cable-selection of master vs. slave. Other comments: the caddy is well made, out of black sheet metal. Installation is simple, and the caddy works fine in both the regular and UltraBay of my 760C. The only place I haven't tried them is in a docking station. They cost $50 each when I bought them. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 10:06:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA052320415; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:06:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13324; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:05:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:01:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12724; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:01:29 -0500 Received: from mail.microserve.net (mail.microserve.net [207.44.0.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12681; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:01:16 -0500 Received: from default (eye.microserve.com [198.70.182.26]) by mail.microserve.net (8.8.5/naISPa) with ESMTP id KAA23734 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:00:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703201500.KAA23734@mail.microserve.net> From: "Joseph Pugliese" To: "thinkpad submissions" Subject: win 3.1 sound midi files Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:00:53 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm running win 3.1 with MMW and can't get midi files to play. Any help will be appreciated. Joseph Pugliese email:jpuglies@eye.microserve.com jpuglies@pol.net http:www.microserve.net/~jpuglies From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 13:24:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA124482264; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:24:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07409; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:22:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:17:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06935; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:17:37 -0500 Received: from calcium.noc.interop.net (calcium.noc.interop.net [45.0.12.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06909; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:17:26 -0500 Received: from ssh.noc.interop.net (ssh-45.noc.interop.net [45.0.15.45]) by calcium.noc.interop.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05882 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:17:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <33317E57.40E7@wwsi.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:13:43 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Caddies for 760CD series? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I haven't been looking at most of this hard-disk discussion, but I have a colleague who would like to pick up a 1G drive here in Silicon Valley before he goes back to Germany. He's found the drive, but he needs to find a caddy that we can get no later than Monday morning. Help? -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 13:37:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA128873055; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:37:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08943; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:35:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:29:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07960; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:29:44 -0500 Received: from mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07949; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:29:35 -0500 Received: from HankG ([207.116.105.148]) by mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA2850 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 18:28:53 +0000 X-Sender: hegrey@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: hegrey Subject: New Subscriber Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 18:28:53 +0000 Message-Id: <19970320182849.AAA2850@HankG> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi Back on March 5 th I requested be added to your subscriber list, so far no mail has been received. Is there a problem, post it. I've been reading your messages on a friends listing. thanks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 13:38:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA129043101; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:38:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09117; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:36:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:32:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08554; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:32:16 -0500 Received: from julian.uwo.ca (julian.uwo.ca [129.100.2.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08515; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:32:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by panther.uwo.ca with SMTP id NAA26629; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:31:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:31:49 -0500 (EST) From: "J. Starkey" X-Sender: jstarkey@panther.uwo.ca To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Recommendations for TP701 HD Upgrade? In-Reply-To: <01BC348B.B675C040@chs0096.awod.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recently spent some time investigating hard disk drives for the TP701cs. PS Solutions (972) 783-6996 only sell caddies - US$60. I spoke to Scott, who was very helpful. However, I did not buy because I wanted a complete drive. Microsense (California), 1-800-544-4252 (also 1-619-632-8623). I bought a 1080MB drive with caddy for US$599. The first two drives would not format correctly, the third drive they fomatted for me and it works fine. Mark, their technical person, (at 1-808-826-4105) could not have been more helpful. Tenex (Toronto, Canada), (416)-291-5894. A 1080MB Toshiba drive cost Can$386 and caddy Can$79. I bought this in the midst of my receiving the drives from Microsense. The drive formatted and works fine. I also found out who NOT to deal with - Kulin Enterprises Ltd., 1-800-304-0036 (or (416)-674-8230). At the beginning of my search for a hard drive I bought from them an IBM drive. It turned out to be the wrong model for the 701. It took months to get my money back, they claimed to have mailed my cheque twice, and then put a stop order on it when I did not receive it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Starkey, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada N6A 3B7 tel: (519) 661 3185 fax: (519) 661 3198 e-mail: jstarkey@julian.uwo.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 16:42:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA189664122; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:42:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06557; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:14:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:04:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05265; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:04:12 -0500 Received: from mail-c.bcc.ac.uk (mail-c.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05205; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:03:45 -0500 Received: from dialup-13.ucl.ac.uk by mail-c.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 17:54:37 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970320175001.357f32ac@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 17:50:01 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Installing DCRA-21260 on TP (was Re: Help with 2.1GB on 755cd) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:55:49 >From: "Bob Angell" >Subject: Re: Help with 2.1GB on 755cd >On Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:56:01 -0500 (EST), Joshua Hosseinof wrote: >>I bought an IBM DCRA-22160 hard drive which is the 17mm 2.1GB IDE hard >>drive that IBM sells. I've put it into a spare caddy aand plugged it in >>and I get error message 174 on my 755CD. I've tried a different hard >>drive with the same caddy and connector and it works. Is there something >>special I have to do to use the 2.1GB hard drive?? All I've had until now >>in this machine was a 540MB. I've tried with a bootable Dos disk in the >>floppy drive but I still get the Error 174 and no way to get into >>Easysetup. >I had the same problem and error number. Basically, your drive is setup as >Drive 1 vs. Drive 0, and the 174 is saying your do not have a drive in the bay >(or it cannot detect one). You will need to do surgery on the cable so that it >thinks it is Drive 0. The following advice applies only to the single drive TP systems -- dual drive capable systems like the TP760 require a different approach. IBM (and according to technical support -- the rest of the drive industry) changed the sense of the drive 0 (master) and drive 1 (slave) jumpers on transitioning from lower density drives to 2.1 GB drives. On the older drives jumpering pins 47 and 48 set drive 0 (master) and jumpering pins 49 and 50 set drive 1 (slave). On the DCRA-21260 jumpering pins 47 and 48 set drive 1 (slave) --and-- no jumper selected drive 0 (master). The old TP750/TP755 caddy jumpers pins 47 and 48. So what may be the easiest thing to do is to bend pin 48 flat against the IDC block to the right and away from the other pins -- effectively removing the pin 48/49 jumper to yield a drive select of 0 (master). This works fine in my TP750Cs. When you are ready to resell the drive just straighten up pin 48 -- and voila, the original DCRA-21260 is restored with the original DCRA-21260 select. I would not cut off pin 48 as recommended by IBM OEM technical support. You can also buy a customized caddy from people like Road Warrior which changes the drive select for you via a customized cable in their caddy. This is probably the best solution for dual disk capable boxes (TP760). Be certain to specify the caddy is for IBM's OEM DCRA-21260 hard drive. Cheers, AJ Annala, Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology, UCL, London, UK From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 16:55:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA194144947; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:55:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29886; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:49:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:45:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29371; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:45:30 -0500 Received: from barney.usu.edu (barney.usu.edu [129.123.1.89]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29353; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:45:25 -0500 Received: from slppj.usu.edu (ppp18.nb1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IGQ9F1YG9E9PMQQO@cc.usu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:45:02 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:45:07 -0700 From: Greg Alvandian Subject: Dock II and 701 experience? To: ThinkPad Mailing list Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <3331AFE3.227A@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm interested in purchasing a dock II for my 701cs. I understand that I'll also need to get the 701 adapter for this as well. My question is what sort of functionality does the dock II add to the 701? What comes with it? What can I add and what sort of adapters will I need to add such things as a CD-ROM or hard drive? Does it come with a floppy drive? Does anyone have any experience using it with the 701cs? Any info, musings, advice would be greatly appreciated. -Greg A. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 20:32:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA267787943; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:32:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14002; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:10:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:05:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13558; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:05:30 -0500 Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13534; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:05:20 -0500 Received: from sfupc.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:02:45 PST Received: by sfupc.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC3548.D0290D40@sfupc.Triumf.CA>; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:07:30 -0800 Message-Id: <01BC3548.D0290D40@sfupc.Triumf.CA> From: tisol Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: 16 v 32 on TP Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:07:29 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu No...No ..No ...grin. EDO is simply Extended Data Out page mode memory. A cache can NOT tell what what type of memory is out there. With current caching architecture it is the size of the TAG ram that detemines what amount of main memory will be cached. With EDO the performance hit on cache miss is simply less. Since were talking about a TP and a 701 at that, this is all irrelevant. As for Trident video cards.... ..peter.. ---------- From: Bruce Stewart[SMTP:bstewart@sun2.bnl.gov] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 1997 12:40 PM To: ross@math.hawaii.edu; rwhittle@usa.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 16 v 32 on TP My understanding is that the relation between L2 cache size and maximum efficiently usable RAM applies to non-EDO memory only. As I recall, 256K cache are needed for each 16 MB. For EDO memory, there is no such restriction. Of course there may be other considerations. For example, I have heard of cases where memory above 16MB was unusable because a certain Trident video card reserved addresses around 16MB. (And according to the ancients, no one would ever need more than 64KB.) -Bruce From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 20:53:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA273459183; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:53:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21935; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:51:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:46:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21270; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:46:24 -0500 Received: from isomedia.com (mail.isomedia.com [204.157.237.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21209; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:46:13 -0500 Received: from billprat (pm3-017.isomedia.com [206.129.160.113]) by isomedia.com (8.6.10/8) with ESMTP id RAA05459; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 17:43:00 -0800 Message-Id: <199703210143.RAA05459@isomedia.com> From: "Bill Pratt" To: "Joshua Hosseinof" , Subject: Re: Recommendations for TP701 HD Upgrade? Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 17:33:55 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Check with Portable Enhancement Products, Inc., at 714-418-0113, x101. They sell them for $79.95 new. Also see their web at http://www.portables.com/pep. Good luck Bill Pratt, Bellevue, WA "No matter where you go...there you are"! billp117@isomedia.com http://www.isomedia.com/homes/billp117 ---------- > From: Joshua Hosseinof > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Recommendations for TP701 HD Upgrade? > Date: Wednesday, March 19, 1997 8:47 PM > > I found a company that sells caddies for the 755 series. They may have > caddies for the 701 as well. The company name is Compu-D, phone number is > (818) 787-3282. The 755 caddies were $75 which is a bit pricey but I > needed a few of them. The caddies are used, so there are some > scratchmarks on them, but they serve the purpose, and I'm satisfied. > > > On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Eddy Lin wrote: > > > Hi, > > I have been considering and shopping around for HD upgrade (from 540Mb > > to about 1.3 to 2.0Gb) for my 701C. The thing that's stopping me is that > > I can't find any dealer that carries a drive with the 701 caddy at a > > good price. I have compared specs and it seems IBM drives are higher > > performance than Toshiba drive but they are real hard to find. Bare > > drives are at good prices now but IBM can't find and probably won't sell > > me an empty caddy to put the drive in, I would prefer to be able to use > > the original drive for a second OS. Anyone has any recommendations or > > sources? Thanks much. > > > > Eddy > > > > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 20 23:40:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA023289245; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:40:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08243; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:39:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:34:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07638; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:34:42 -0500 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07627; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:34:36 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA14679; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:34:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:34:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970320233400_1410040425@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: billp117@isomedia.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Recommendations for TP701 HD Upgrade? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is Michael at Portable Enhancements. I would just like to say that the TP701 Caddy pricing for us has been volative if nothing else. We have finally arrived at a price for end users for our metal HDD Caddy that we have designed ourselves. It is $99.00 for end users. The introductory time at the lower pricing has expered and the Caddy pricing will remain stable at this price. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 3GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: Recommendations for TP701 HD Upgrade? Date: 97-03-20 20:55:05 EST From: billp117@isomedia.com (Bill Pratt) To: hosseino@ymail.yu.edu (Joshua Hosseinof), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Check with Portable Enhancement Products, Inc., at 714-418-0113, x101. They sell them for $79.95 new. Also see their web at http://www.portables.com/pep. Good luck Bill Pratt, Bellevue, WA "No matter where you go...there you are"! billp117@isomedia.com http://www.isomedia.com/homes/billp117 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 21 01:04:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046754276; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:04:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14383; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:02:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Mar 1997 00:57:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14026; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 00:57:43 -0500 Received: from wolfenet.com (news1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14016; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 00:57:36 -0500 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com (sea-ts2-p14.wolfenet.com [207.66.131.64]) by wolfenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA18115 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:58:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970320215733.006b1138@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: pele@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:57:33 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: direct cable connection redux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu After numerous attempts spanning several weeks checking a multitude of settings several of you suggested -- not to mention 90 minutes with a senior MS tech engineer -- I gave up trying to get Direct Cable Connection to work as between my 701c & desktop, both running Win95. My primary goal was to access the desktop's CD rom drive. Sadly, my "solution" was to go for the Sony 4X CD-ROM refurb from http://www.insight.com/ Still, the following URL has much information on DCC, and might be helpful to others: http://www.tecno.demon.co.uk/dcc.htm Good luck. -- Peter Lewis pele@wolfenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 21 01:43:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA060156612; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:43:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16649; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:42:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:39:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16274; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:38:58 -0500 Received: from PhoneLink.COM (fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM [193.195.138.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16264; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:38:53 -0500 Received: from freemuda.prod.PhoneLink.COM by fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM id aa03513; 21 Mar 97 6:37 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 06:38:22 GMT From: Chaplin@emarkt.com Subject: Memory expansion To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <210397063751000C.Chaplin@emarkt.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My Thinkpad 760 LD has 16 MB RAM. Under teh extra memory expansion plate there apppears to be two slots with a SIMM in one. I presume there 8 MB RAM already fiffed and this SIMM is 8MB. What are my upgrade options? Am I limited to another 8MB SIMM to take me to 24 or could I add a 16 MB SIMM in this slot to take me up to 32? Are there any advantages to either option? Many thanks, Philip. -- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 21 07:15:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA148606504; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:15:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16638; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:14:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:09:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16278; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:09:44 -0500 Received: from mozart.inet.co.th (rakkiat@mozart.inet.co.th [202.44.200.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16267; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:09:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by mozart.inet.co.th; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/07Nov95-0628PM) id AA25150; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 19:09:26 +0700 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 19:09:26 +0700 (GMT+0700) From: Rakkiat Trimahaloek To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: How to listen RealAudio with Mwave Modem/760CD? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I would like to know if it is possible to listen to RealAudio stream via Mwave modem connection. I tried it once on Win3.11 but no sound come out. I was hurry at that time so I borrow my friends PCMCIA 33.6k modem plug it in and use PCMCIA modem to connect then the sound will come out through MWave. So, is it possible to use MWave modem at the same time as audio feature? If it's not work in Win3.11, will it work on Win95 or OS/2 or NT? Regards, Rakkiat From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 21 08:24:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA166520662; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:24:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22247; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:23:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:19:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21848; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:19:24 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21836; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:19:19 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id IAA16824 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:15:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA7058; Fri, 21 Mar 97 08:14:49 -0800 Message-Id: <9703211614.AA7058@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 6FE8DFC23528D02F852564610047D162; Fri, 21 Mar 97 08:14:47 EDT To: Rakkiat Trimahaloek Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 21 Mar 97 8:10:30 EDT Subject: Re: How to listen RealAudio with Mwave Modem/760CD? X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "...So, is it possible to use MWave modem at the same time as audio feature? If it's not work in Win3.11, will it work on Win95 or OS/2 or NT?..." ~~~~~ i don't remember if i ever did this in 3.11, but it works fine in 95. i listen to college basketball games over real audio on my 755cd all the time, both over the t1 and connected remotely at 28.8 with the mwave modem, and i've seen no difference in the sound quality, so it doesn't appear to even be limited by use of the modem. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 'sharpei diem' -- sieze the wrinkle dog. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 21 09:24:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA182224278; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:24:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00628; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:23:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:18:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00194; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:18:53 -0500 Received: from mail.eunet.ch (mail.eunet.ch [146.228.10.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00181; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:18:40 -0500 Received: from everest.esec.ch by mail.eunet.ch (8.8.3/1.34) id OAA15197; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:18:32 GMT Received: from lachen.esec.ch (lachen.esec.ch [194.191.94.158]) by everest.esec.ch (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA05649 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:14:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from blanc (blanc.esec.ch [194.191.94.144]) by lachen.esec.ch (8.8.3/8.8.2.1) with SMTP id PAA22783 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:12:35 +0100 (MET) Sender: carsten.seibert@esec.ch Message-Id: <33329752.312A@esec.ch> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:12:34 +0100 From: Carsten Seibert Organization: ESEC SA X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/715) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: How to listen RealAudio with Mwave Modem/760CD? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm using RealAudio on my TP760ED with NT 4.0 while connected to my ISP with the mwave modem. There are no problems with listening to basketball games (except that the stream is sometimes quite unsteady here in Switzerland, thanks to my ISP!). Carsten Rakkiat Trimahaloek wrote: > > Hi, > > I would like to know if it is possible to listen to RealAudio stream via > Mwave modem connection. I tried it once on Win3.11 but no sound come out. > I was hurry at that time so I borrow my friends PCMCIA 33.6k modem plug it > in and use PCMCIA modem to connect then the sound will come out through > MWave. > > So, is it possible to use MWave modem at the same time as audio feature? > If it's not work in Win3.11, will it work on Win95 or OS/2 or NT? > > Regards, > > Rakkiat From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 21 11:46:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA249142781; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:46:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18445; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:44:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:38:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17688; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:38:09 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17676; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:38:03 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA20728 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA7760; Fri, 21 Mar 97 11:33:35 -0800 Message-Id: <9703211933.AA7760@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 035E1CDD91EE4862852564610059C0D3; Fri, 21 Mar 97 11:33:34 EDT To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 21 Mar 97 11:32:07 EDT Subject: Toshiba discussion list X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu if i offer to setup a listserv like this one for toshiba laptops, how much interest would there be? and would you be interested in tecras only, or satellites and porteges as well? i encourage you to respond to me directly, so we can keep the noise down out of respect for the tp list. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 'sharpei diem' -- sieze the wrinkle dog. [thank you all for the overwhelming response to my obvious lack of understanding of latin in composing this sig. i still think it's funny, but, like all sigs, it will come to pass. -mjv (in logo parenthesis)] From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 21 18:06:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA163645614; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:06:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24494; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:04:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:55:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23603; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:55:30 -0500 Received: from accessaig1.aig.com (ACCESSAIG1.AIG.COM [167.230.227.138]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23574; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:55:20 -0500 Received: from aigmail.aig.com by accessaig1.aig.com via smtpd (for CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) with SMTP; 21 Mar 1997 22:46:23 UT Received: by aigmail.aig.com (1.37.109.16/16.2-WT4.0) id AA234985288; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:01:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:00:54 -0500 From: "Christopher.Tong" Message-Id: Subject: RE: How to listen RealAudio with Mwave M To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Receipt Notification Requested), rakkiat@mozart.inet.co.th (Receipt Notification Requested) X400-Mts-Identifier: [ /P=AIG/A=MCI/C=US/ ; m\wtmp01\970321180054e ] X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.0.2-p8)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Mwave will only work with modem & audio connection @ 14.4 level and only with mediocre performance ! Regards, Chris T. ---------- From: rakkiat@mozart.inet.co.th-@-IN Sent: Friday, March 21, 1997 7:11 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu-@-AIG Subject: How to listen RealAudio with Mwave Modem Hi, I would like to know if it is possible to listen to RealAudio stream via Mwave modem connection. I tried it once on Win3.11 but no sound come out. I was hurry at that time so I borrow my friends PCMCIA 33.6k modem plug it in and use PCMCIA modem to connect then the sound will come out through MWave. So, is it possible to use MWave modem at the same time as audio feature? If it's not work in Win3.11, will it work on Win95 or OS/2 or NT? Regards, Rakkiat From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 21 22:03:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA232729809; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:03:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10654; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:01:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:57:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10221; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:57:25 -0500 Received: from camel6.mindspring.com (camel6.mindspring.com [204.180.128.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10210; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:57:20 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95b.dialup.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by camel6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA01356; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:57:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703220257.VAA01356@camel6.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Chaplin@emarkt.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 21 Mar 97 21:57:19 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Memory expansion Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Ypu can use ether 8, 16, 32 meg SIMM's, or you can remove the 8 & add two 32's. On Fri, 21 Mar 1997 06:38:22 GMT, Chaplin@emarkt.com wrote: >My Thinkpad 760 LD has 16 MB RAM. Under teh extra memory expansion plate there apppears to be two slots with a SIMM in one. I presume there 8 MB RAM already fiffed and this SIMM is 8MB. > >What are my upgrade options? Am I limited to another 8MB SIMM to take me to 24 or could I add a 16 MB SIMM in this slot to take me up to 32? > >Are there any advantages to either option? > >Many thanks, > >Philip. > > >-- > > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 21 22:09:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA234640184; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:09:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11450; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:08:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:05:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11028; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:05:05 -0500 Received: from camel6.mindspring.com (camel6.mindspring.com [204.180.128.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11018; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:04:59 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95b.dialup.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by camel6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA22745; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:04:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703220304.WAA22745@camel6.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "slppj@cc.usu.edu" , "ThinkPad Mailing list" Date: Fri, 21 Mar 97 22:05:03 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dock II and 701 experience? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You can add a SCSI CD-ROM, IDE CD-ROM or a Thinkpad CD-ROM. A Thinkpad floppy, a thinkpad, IDE or SCSI hard drive. two PC Card's, 2 ISA cards, execpt video pass through. It also gives a full set of commectors. Hope this helps. On Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:45:07 -0700, Greg Alvandian wrote: >I'm interested in purchasing a dock II for my 701cs. I understand that >I'll also need to get the 701 adapter for this as well. My question is >what sort of functionality does the dock II add to the 701? What comes >with it? What can I add and what sort of adapters will I need to add >such things as a CD-ROM or hard drive? Does it come with a floppy >drive? Does anyone have any experience using it with the 701cs? Any >info, musings, advice would be greatly appreciated. >-Greg A. jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 21 22:18:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA236480694; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:18:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12394; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:17:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:13:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11928; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:13:52 -0500 Received: from camel6.mindspring.com (camel6.mindspring.com [204.180.128.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11916; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:13:47 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95b.dialup.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by camel6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA20981; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:13:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703220313.WAA20981@camel6.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "IBM Thinkpad Listserv" , "Kendall Don Chenoweth" Date: Fri, 21 Mar 97 22:13:54 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: thinkpad 750 sound and win95 (fwd) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The sound card is not SB but business audio. You need to install the DOS/real mode drivers 3 or more times to get win95 to reconize then. On Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:55:18 -0500 (EST), Kendall Don Chenoweth wrote: > >Hello! > > Does anybody have Windows 95 installed on a thinkpad 750. Does this configuration recognize the sound blaster emulation on the thinkpad? > > Kendall > >kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com http://www.ultranet.com/~kendall >20 Eames Street, Apt #19 Fidelity Investments, Systems Company >Framingham, MA 01704 VOICE (508) 787-7744 >VOICE (508) 626-2686 PAGER (800) 759-8888 [beeper #2128450] >DATA/FAX (508) 628-9283 http://www.fidelity.com > > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 21 22:25:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA238761108; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:25:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13125; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:24:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:20:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12638; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:20:15 -0500 Received: from camel6.mindspring.com (camel6.mindspring.com [204.180.128.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12591; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:20:06 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95b.dialup.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by camel6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA08845; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:19:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703220319.WAA08845@camel6.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Alexander J. Annala" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 21 Mar 97 22:20:07 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Help! How to reinstall TP760EL audio in Windows 95? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Go to www.pc.ibm.com/support/tpsu.html On Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:50:20 +0000, Alexander J. Annala wrote: >Could someone please tell me which drivers/software are >needed (and any required tricks/adjustments) to install >audio on TP760EL after reformatting disk and rebuilding >Windows 95 from scratch? > >Thanks, A J Annala > > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 22 01:45:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA292123101; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 01:45:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26030; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 01:42:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 01:36:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25551; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 01:36:14 -0500 Received: from mail-c.bcc.ac.uk (mail-c.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25540; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 01:36:07 -0500 Received: from thinkpad.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk by mail-c.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 06:33:44 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970322063056.08877e1c@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 06:30:56 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: TP750Cs vs. Philips Recordable CD-ROM & CD Creator Software In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, I bought a nice little Philips CDD2000 recordble CDROM drive to hang off my Adaptec Slim SCSI card. It works just fine. On the Windows 95 system I can easily do double speed writes. On DOS, due to severe memory constraints after loading all the PCMCIA drivers etc, the software selects the minimum single speed write mode. I've written several disks using Corel (Adaptec) CD Creator. Does anyone have any recommendations about nice software to use for writing CDROMs on IBM Thinkpads and/or Macintosh systems? Thanks, AJ Annala From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 22 03:06:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA016827974; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:06:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01584; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:05:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:01:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01135; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:01:47 -0500 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (mahalkitacutee.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.75.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01123; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:01:36 -0500 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00690 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:56:48 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:54:49 -0800 (PST) From: derelict To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Good source for Dock II Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Can anyone tell me a good source for the Dock II? I've got a 755CD and am considering a docking station. Also, does anyone have a reference to some site that gives a *good* desription, preferably with pictures, that describes *all* of it's features? Thanks, -Mike -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 22 03:43:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA027390182; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:43:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05533; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:42:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:38:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04744; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:38:18 -0500 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04723; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:38:14 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id DAA29659 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:37:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:37:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970322033741_-1605236414@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Dock II and 701 experience? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The Dock II provides SCSI-II, speakers, a drive bay for a ThinkPad HD, I think it has floppy drive, one 5.25" HH drive bay, a status panel, 2 extra PCMCIA ports on the Multiport II, a security key, etc. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 22 03:46:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA028320405; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:46:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06308; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:46:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:41:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05265; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:41:23 -0500 Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05253; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:41:19 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id DAA23278 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:40:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:40:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970322034046_-1035881533@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 355/360 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anybody on this list use a 355 or 360? I need a copy of the Preload CD-ROM, or at least the demo program and the Online Users Guide (as a DOS or Windows program). Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 22 03:53:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA029810813; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:53:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07366; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:52:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:48:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06711; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:48:34 -0500 Received: from emout11.mail.aol.com (emout11.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06696; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:48:29 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout11.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id DAA22565 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:47:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:47:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970322034754_1882595782@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Memory expansion Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In a message dated 97-03-21 01:41:50 EST, you write: << My Thinkpad 760 LD has 16 MB RAM. Under teh extra memory expansion plate there apppears to be two slots with a SIMM in one. I presume there 8 MB RAM already fiffed and this SIMM is 8MB. What are my upgrade options? Am I limited to another 8MB SIMM to take me to 24 or could I add a 16 MB SIMM in this slot to take me up to 32? Are there any advantages to either option? Many thanks, Philip. >> I think that the 760 series goes up to 40megs max, so you should have more upgrade options than that. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 22 04:14:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA035542057; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:14:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10166; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:13:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:08:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA09198; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:08:33 -0500 Received: from emout11.mail.aol.com (emout11.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA09188; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:08:28 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout11.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id EAA26634 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:07:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:07:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970322040754_-503038769@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 16 v 32 on TP (was: Third Party Memory for the TP701) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In a message dated 97-03-19 16:55:59 EST, you write: << Subj: Re: 16 v 32 on TP (was: Third Party Memory for the TP701) Date: 97-03-19 16:55:59 EST From: rj@cais.com (rj) To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) CC: rwhittle@usa.net (Randy Whittle), ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu My interest in the 32 MB module is for running NT 4.0 with the hope that system response would improve significantly, or somewhat more than noticeably, since I run some memory hogs. I spoke to a sysop at a shop that runs NT 3.51 on their work stations, normally with 32 MB, and he said that the performance increase should be noticeable but not enough to justify the cost and that a new box was a better way to go. As an aside, with 24 MB the 701 performs better with NT 4.0 than with Win95. It's more responsive although it does take longer to load and does not have some of features that 95 has that are useful for a notebook. >> The problem that I notice with NT 4.0 that I have on my server here is that it eats free memory away fast. Although my server has been on something like 72 hours now, CPU use is 97-100% and everything is slow. There is also no APM support. I was thinking of getting a copy for my 701 from a friend at MS, but figured that it would be a waste of time, because using it would be a waste of time. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 22 04:32:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA039913143; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:32:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12353; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:31:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:27:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11763; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:27:53 -0500 Received: from saturn.darcars.net (michael@darcars.net [207.153.85.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11752; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:27:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by saturn.darcars.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA16793 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:27:44 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:27:44 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Cummings To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Multiport II In-Reply-To: <970322033914_954115907@emout17.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 22 Mar 1997 PAULKHOURY@aol.com wrote: > Has anyone with a 701 had problems with the connector on the Multiport II > breaking (no problems with the ThinkPad connector itself)? Is it just me, or > is it really flimsy? Yea I had one break. The part that keeps the pins aligned on the MPII broke on one end. EZServ shipped me another. > ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Cummings at home, feet up in | Washington, DC... Columbia, MD. Internet cummings@pobox.com | "A Radio Wasteland"... -------------------------------------------|---------------------------- Novell CNA/Pyramid OSx Systems Admin. |My other op-system is Linux! ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 22 04:36:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA040923387; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:36:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06043; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:44:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:39:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04923; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:39:52 -0500 Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com (emout17.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04906; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:39:47 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id DAA28975 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:39:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:39:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970322033914_954115907@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Multiport II Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone with a 701 had problems with the connector on the Multiport II breaking (no problems with the ThinkPad connector itself)? Is it just me, or is it really flimsy? Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 22 04:39:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA041493552; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:39:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13463; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:38:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:34:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13052; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:34:49 -0500 Received: from emout03.mail.aol.com (emout03.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.94]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13030; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:34:45 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id EAA26704 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:34:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:34:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970322043412_738229208@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Multiport II Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 22 Mar 1997 PAULKHOURY@aol.com wrote: > Has anyone with a 701 had problems with the connector on the Multiport II > breaking (no problems with the ThinkPad connector itself)? Is it just me, or > is it really flimsy? Yea I had one break. The part that keeps the pins aligned on the MPII broke on one end. EZServ shipped me another. > I knew there was something wrong with them. I think this is my 4th one, and I actually got someone in the Boulder parts center to say I could do my own repairs until the replacement comes. I just wish that they could design them better though. Paul Khoury From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 22 04:47:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA043864070; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:47:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA14443; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:47:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:43:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA14005; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:43:31 -0500 Received: from saturn.darcars.net (michael@[207.153.85.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13995; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:43:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by saturn.darcars.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA17298 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:43:24 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:43:24 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Cummings To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Dock I & 701c batteries Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just received a add from Surplus Direct that has 701C batteries (nicads) for 39.99 and dock I's for 99.99. I don't think IBM has made the nicads for a while so this is prob. old stock. According to their web page dock I's can only be used with 760, 755, 750, 370 and 360's. http://www.surplusdirect.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Cummings at home, feet up in | Washington, DC... Columbia, MD. Internet cummings@pobox.com | "A Radio Wasteland"... -------------------------------------------|---------------------------- Novell CNA/Pyramid OSx Systems Admin. |My other op-system is Linux! ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 22 13:33:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA169155607; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:33:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18776; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:32:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:27:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18270; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:27:32 -0500 Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18260; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:27:28 -0500 Received: from ppp07.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:24:53 PST Received: by ppp07.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC36AB.4F6296E0@ppp07.Triumf.CA>; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:25:05 -0800 Message-Id: <01BC36AB.4F6296E0@ppp07.Triumf.CA> From: peter machule To: "'Michael Cummings'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Dock I & 701c batteries Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:24:52 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu http://www.onsale.com has the dock I on again . price might not go above $40. ....unless you all bid against each other ;-} ..peter ---------- From: Michael Cummings[SMTP:michael@saturn.darcars.net] Sent: Friday, March 21, 1997 8:43 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Dock I & 701c batteries I just received a add from Surplus Direct that has 701C batteries (nicads) for 39.99 and dock I's for 99.99. I don't think IBM has made the nicads for a while so this is prob. old stock. According to their web page dock I's can only be used with 760, 755, 750, 370 and 360's. http://www.surplusdirect.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Cummings at home, feet up in | Washington, DC... Columbia, MD. Internet cummings@pobox.com | "A Radio Wasteland"... -------------------------------------------|---------------------------- Novell CNA/Pyramid OSx Systems Admin. |My other op-system is Linux! ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 23 18:56:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA021201412; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:56:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11443; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:55:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:46:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10892; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:46:11 -0500 Received: from AST01.ligsystems.com ([166.72.214.67]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10870; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:45:58 -0500 Received: by AST01.ligsystems.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id PAA000.72; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 15:45:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199703232045.PAA000.72@AST01.ligsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 97 15:42:25 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: Multiport II X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <71_141_4_859149746> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yes mine broke but only after many months of daily use, I like the way it tilts unit. It's covered on an exchange basis under your warranty. I took mine in because the internal modem had died. I mentioned the Multiport and was told about the exchange. Lee //--- forwarded letter ------------------------------------------------------- > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 03:39:15 -0500 > From: PAULKHOURY@aol.com > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Multiport II > > Has anyone with a 701 had problems with the connector on the Multiport II > breaking (no problems with the ThinkPad connector itself)? Is it just me, or > is it really flimsy? > > Paul Khoury > ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 23 20:00:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA039575249; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:00:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14433; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:00:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:55:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14168; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:55:44 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14151; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:55:38 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id UAA06135; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:00:04 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:00:04 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: ThinkPad mailing list Subject: Re: Multiport II In-Reply-To: <199703232045.PAA000.72@AST01.ligsystems.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > Has anyone with a 701 had problems with the connector on the Multiport II > > breaking (no problems with the ThinkPad connector itself)? Is it just me, > > or is it really flimsy? > > Yes mine broke but only after many months of daily use... I keep mine in bubble wrap to avoid damaging the little hook. Chris. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 23 23:52:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA106779159; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:52:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29607; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:51:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:46:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29139; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:46:44 -0500 Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29127; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:46:40 -0500 Received: from cliff.cris.com (cliff.cris.com [199.3.12.45]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/03/20 3.25)) id XAA21833; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:46:37 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from 760-ed (cnc137053.concentric.net [206.173.215.53]) by cliff.cris.com (8.8.5) id XAA26773; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:46:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703240446.XAA26773@cliff.cris.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:46:30 +0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: 760 ED Screen Flicker... Reply-To: phong@concentric.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recently acquired a 760 ED and was wondering if anyone has experienced "screen flicker" with the TFT display? If this continues, I'll end up going crazy! ... patrick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@concentric.net (613) 769-1544 Tel phong@connectinc.com (613) 728-4063 Fax From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 24 00:09:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA111480162; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:09:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01408; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:08:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:03:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00871; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:03:16 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00853; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:03:00 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA03269 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:57:38 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199703240457.XAA03269@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: 750C's WD 90C24 clocks To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:57:38 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This information may be useful for TP750 users (as well as any other who have laptops with WD90C24). Unlike as implied in the Video drivers diskette, 1024x768 at 60Hz is not the maximum refresh rate possible on an external monitor. The IBM Vesa drivers only let you select up to 60Hz, but the WD90C24 can be driven safely at 1024x768 at 70Hz using a 74MHz dot clock. Still a higher clock of 79MHz is supported, which should yield just below a 72Hz refresh rate. Unfortunately, these higher clocks won't be of much use to non X users. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@vec.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu world rejoiced. Try to live your life Virtual Endoscopy Center so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 24 03:21:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA165881707; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 03:21:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12453; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 03:21:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Mar 1997 03:17:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11914; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 03:17:15 -0500 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (mahalkitacutee.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.75.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11885; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 03:17:07 -0500 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id AAA01802; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:13:22 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199703240457.XAA03269@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:10:53 -0800 (PST) From: derelict To: (Dave Ahn) Subject: RE: 750C's WD 90C24 clocks Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dave, I was wondering if you knew of a way to configure your XF86Config file so you can use either 1024x768 on an external monitor or 640x480 on the LCD. (I'm just guessing the 750's had a 640x480 screen). Currently I have a seperate one for each resolution and haven't figured out how to get it all into one. Thanks, -Mike On 24-Mar-97 Dave Ahn wrote: >This information may be useful for TP750 users (as well as any other who >have laptops with WD90C24). Unlike as implied in the Video drivers diskette, >1024x768 at 60Hz is not the maximum refresh rate possible on an external >monitor. The IBM Vesa drivers only let you select up to 60Hz, but the >WD90C24 can be driven safely at 1024x768 at 70Hz using a 74MHz dot clock. >Still a higher clock of 79MHz is supported, which should yield just below >a 72Hz refresh rate. Unfortunately, these higher clocks won't be of much >use to non X users. > >Regards, >Dave. >-- >Dave Ahn, ahn@vec.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the > ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu world rejoiced. Try to live your life >Virtual Endoscopy Center so that when you die you will rejoice, >Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 24 06:07:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA209891635; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 06:07:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA02069; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 06:04:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Mar 1997 05:58:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA01620; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 05:58:20 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA01607; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 05:58:15 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA03956; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 05:52:59 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199703241052.FAA03956@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: 750C's WD 90C24 clocks In-Reply-To: from derelict at "Mar 24, 97 00:10:53 am" To: mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (derelict) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 05:52:58 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I was wondering if you knew of a way to configure your XF86Config file so you > can use either 1024x768 on an external monitor or 640x480 on the LCD. It is possible with a glitch: you are stuck with 1024x768 virtual screen resolution. Simply specify both on the "Modes" line in Scren-Display section and use CTRL-ALT-(keypad +) or (keypad -) to switch between the modes on the fly, without a server reboot. You can also use 'xvidtune -next' or 'xvidtune -prev' to switch modes. I would recommend this approach, since virtual scrolling is very useful, especially at 640x480. It also lets you use the Fn-F7 (or equivalent) key on the TP to toggle between LCD<->LCD&CRT<->CRT modes under X. If you actually want the virtual resolution to always match the screen resolution, you must either use two different config files, use two different depths (16bpp on LCD and 8bpp on monitor), or configure two different screens, simulating a "dual head" configuration for the laptop (haven't tried this, but it should work)-- be careful not to actually run two servers at once!) A server reboot is necessary in these cases to switch modes. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@vec.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu world rejoiced. Try to live your life Virtual Endoscopy Center so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 24 07:24:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA229996298; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:24:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06689; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:24:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:19:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06302; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:19:27 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06286; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:19:20 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id HAA22192 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:15:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA9698; Mon, 24 Mar 97 07:14:45 -0800 Message-Id: <9703241514.AA9698@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id DE7BDDB1132F0CC4852564640042F270; Mon, 24 Mar 97 07:14:45 EDT To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 24 Mar 97 7:15:21 EDT Subject: RE: How to listen RealAudio with Mwave M X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "...Mwave will only work with modem & audio connection @ 14.4 level and only with mediocre performance !..." ~~~~~ this is not entirely true. there are some audio applications that will not run on the mwave if the modem is connected at a higher speed than 14.4, but this is *not* true of realaudio. i do it all the time at 28.8 with no performance degradation whatsoever. this may be due in part to the fact that every realaudio stream i have picked up on so far is a 14.4 stream of 8-bit audio, but my connection is 28.8. i've found that i can also surf the web & check my email without interrupting the audio stream. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 'sharpei diem' -- sieze the wrinkle dog. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 24 15:06:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA072883994; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:06:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14407; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:03:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:52:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13195; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:52:23 -0500 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13180; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:52:14 -0500 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA35024; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:51:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:51:06 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: "Alexander J. Annala" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Installing DCRA-21260 on TP (was Re: Help with 2.1GB on 755cd) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.19970320175001.357f32ac@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks, your advice worked but I found that I had to bend pin 47 aside not pin 48. When I bent pin 48 aside the drive did not even power up when I turned on the computer. I straightened out pin 48 and bent pin 47 and it worked. Josh On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Alexander J. Annala wrote: > The following advice applies only to the single drive TP systems -- dual > drive capable systems like the TP760 require a different approach. IBM > (and according to technical support -- the rest of the drive industry) > changed the sense of the drive 0 (master) and drive 1 (slave) jumpers on > transitioning from lower density drives to 2.1 GB drives. On the older > drives jumpering pins 47 and 48 set drive 0 (master) and jumpering pins > 49 and 50 set drive 1 (slave). On the DCRA-21260 jumpering pins 47 and > 48 set drive 1 (slave) --and-- no jumper selected drive 0 (master). The > old TP750/TP755 caddy jumpers pins 47 and 48. So what may be the easiest > thing to do is to bend pin 48 flat against the IDC block to the right and > away from the other pins -- effectively removing the pin 48/49 jumper to > yield a drive select of 0 (master). This works fine in my TP750Cs. When > you are ready to resell the drive just straighten up pin 48 -- and voila, > the original DCRA-21260 is restored with the original DCRA-21260 select. > I would not cut off pin 48 as recommended by IBM OEM technical support. > > You can also buy a customized caddy from people like Road Warrior which > changes the drive select for you via a customized cable in their caddy. > This is probably the best solution for dual disk capable boxes (TP760). > Be certain to specify the caddy is for IBM's OEM DCRA-21260 hard drive. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 24 16:45:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA106329899; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:44:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23030; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:42:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:37:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22510; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:37:47 -0500 Received: from mail2a.pilot.net (mail2.pilot.net [198.232.147.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22494; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:37:41 -0500 Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (unknown-8-248.jud.state.ca.us [206.81.8.248]) by mail2a.pilot.net with SMTP id NAA04918; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:37:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00001BFA; Mon, 24 Mar 97 13:34:25 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:34:19 -0800 Message-Id: <00001BFA.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) To: ThinkPad Mailing list , slppj@cc.usu.edu Subject: Re: Dock II and 701 experience? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.562932958" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the remainder, you will need to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.562932958 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Greg: I have my 701 in a Dock II. You'll need the Dock II - 701 Adapter, which seems to run about $190. I have mixed feelings about the Dock II. The price you pay for the expandability includes sacrificing a large portion of your desktop. The footprint of the Dock II is substantial - it weighs about 30 pounds and has the area of a small desktop computer. Depending on the abundance of hardware where you plan to locate the Dock II (it really isn't that mobile), you may be able to use or build a LAN that could give you everything a Dock II does. Think dollars. Suppose I spent $700 for the Dock II. Can I do a LAN in my office instead? I've got a small 8 port LAN in my office (peer). So, adding a Dock II didn't really make sense unless I got the Dock II really inexpensively (which I did). On the other hand, you gain the option to add one 1" high device, CD or hard drive, one 1/2 height device (1.5"?) CD or hard drive. A 1" high CD is hard to find unless you buy an IBM labeled CD ROM drive. Teac used to (or may still) sell CD drives that fit into 1" bays. Otherwise, you can add in a normal 1/2 height device. My configuration consists of a 1 GB SCSI hard drive in the 1" bay, a JVC 4x2 CD-Writer (4x read, 2x write) in the 1/2 height bay. I've also got a ISA-10BaseT network card in one of the ISA slots. Often, there are additional SCSI devices daisychained to the external SCSI-2 slot. Summary: it might not make sense unless you REALLY need a CD. Even then, a better solution might be an add-on, external CD. On the other hand, if you get one cheap, then do it. Mitchell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Dock II and 701 experience? Author: slppj@cc.usu.edu at Internet Date: 3/20/97 2:45 PM I'm interested in purchasing a dock II for my 701cs. I understand that I'll also need to get the 701 adapter for this as well. My question is what sort of functionality does the dock II add to the 701? What comes with it? What can I add and what sort of adapters will I need to add such things as a CD-ROM or hard drive? Does it come with a floppy drive? Does anyone have any experience using it with the 701cs? Any info, musings, advice would be greatly appreciated. -Greg A. --IMA.Boundary.562932958 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from mail2a.pilot.net (198.232.147.11) by ima.jud.ca.gov with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00001652; Thu, 20 Mar 97 13:47:20 -0800 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mail2a.pilot.net with SMTP id NAA20004 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:50:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29910; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:49:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:45:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29371; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:45:30 -0500 Received: from barney.usu.edu (barney.usu.edu [129.123.1.89]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29353; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:45:25 -0500 Received: from slppj.usu.edu (ppp18.nb1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IGQ9F1YG9E9PMQQO@cc.usu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:45:02 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:45:07 -0700 From: Greg Alvandian Subject: Dock II and 701 experience? To: ThinkPad Mailing list Reply-to: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-id: <3331AFE3.227A@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --IMA.Boundary.562932958-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 24 16:54:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA109100457; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:54:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24270; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:52:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:48:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23742; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:48:54 -0500 Received: from AST01.ligsystems.com (slip166-72-214-109.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.214.109]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23724; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:48:46 -0500 Received: by AST01.ligsystems.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id NAA001.02; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:48:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199703241848.NAA001.02@AST01.ligsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 97 13:43:36 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: Multiport II X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <100_155_4_859229016> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I keep mine in bubble wrap to avoid damaging the little hook. > Interesting idea Chris. I figured that mine broke while it was on the 701, I hadn't considered that it might have broken in the case. I usually store my multiport next to the 701 in the suspension slot of my Port case. I can see how it may have broken when I put the 701 in. Maybe I should store it separately. Thanks for the thought. Lee ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 24 17:26:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA121442378; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:26:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27373; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:24:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:20:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26927; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:20:13 -0500 Received: from mail2a.pilot.net (mail2.pilot.net [198.232.147.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26910; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:20:06 -0500 Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (unknown-8-248.jud.state.ca.us [206.81.8.248]) by mail2a.pilot.net with SMTP id OAA12601; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00001C3B; Mon, 24 Mar 97 14:16:33 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:16:25 -0800 Message-Id: <00001C3B.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) To: rwhittle@usa.net (Randy Whittle), ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross), thinkpad@listserv.utk.edu Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 16 v 32 on TP (was: Third Party Memory for the TP701) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.397142958" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the remainder, you will need to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.397142958 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part My two cents: My brother-in-law just bought a 32 MB SO-DIMM from the Chip Merchant. Kudos to them: about 6 weeks ago, he asked them for the 32 MB SO-DIMM. At that time, they said they didn't carry it. So, he settled for the 16 MB. But, their Web page does show a part number for the 32 MB SO-DIMM at $355. When he pointed it out to them, about 2 weeks ago, they gave him a credit for the 16 MB and sent him the 32 SO-DIMM without waiting for him to return the 16 SO-DIMM. They did nick him $15 for a restocking fee. However, the performance of the 701 with Win95 seems to improve markably when running the same apps with 16 (+8) vs. 32 (+8). We've run two 701s side by side. There is minimal to no disk caching with the 32 MB upgrade. The situation where too much RAM memory slows down a system can occur with the definition of the size of the disk cache. To me, the classical example of this is with OS/2. OS/2 by default will allocate a disk cache that is typically 2x the RAM size. This is great for OS/2 boxes with something like 16-24 MB of RAM. In the good old days of expensive RAM, this made sense. When RAM prices crashed last year, and I splurged on RAM for my OS/2 box and pushed the RAM to 64 (an excessively silly amount), the performance noticably degraded. Why? Because the disk cache grew to 128 MB. Once I forced the disk cache back down to 32 MB, performance went back up. Win95 does something similar. But I don't understand lots of things with Win95. Hope this helps... Mitchell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: 16 v 32 on TP (was: Third Party Memory for the TP701) Author: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) at Internet Date: 3/19/97 10:10 AM Randy Whittle writes: > difference. I posted sometime back that according to Norton Utilities, my > base Win 95 setup (with the little extras loaded, like Norton Navigator > utils) uses up something like 30 MB RAM just by booting up and sitting > there without any additional software loaded. The Win 95 kernel alone > (without *any* fancy stuff--i.e., networking capability) takes up 12 MB RAM. What is NU really reporting here? I've run Win95 w/only 8 megs, and while it is sometimes horribly slow, at other times it runs fine w/no HD access visible. A fair fraction of this kernel must therefore be fairly irrelevant, and Windows must be smart enough to page it to disk and keep it there. (Good grief, I've just used 'Windows' and 'smart' in a sentence not containing the word 'not'!) The reason I raised the question is that the price difference between a 16 meg dimm and a 32 meg dimm is very substantial, and to me wouldn't be worthwhile unless software actually ran faster at times other than when it was being loaded. (Common 'wisdom' on comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips is that too much memory can actually slow a system down! I don't know whether to believe it.) - David --IMA.Boundary.397142958 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from mail2c.pilot.net (198.232.147.16) by ima.jud.ca.gov with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 000013A0; Wed, 19 Mar 97 12:10:31 -0800 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mail2c.pilot.net with SMTP id MAA09214 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:13:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21431; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:12:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:09:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20914; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:09:27 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20900; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:09:21 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA22307; Wed, 19 Mar 97 10:09:17 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA27816; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:10:06 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199703192010.KAA27816@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: 16 v 32 on TP (was: Third Party Memory for the TP701) To: rwhittle@usa.net (Randy Whittle) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 10:10:03 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970319114019.006e6b44@scf.usc.edu>; from "Randy Whittle" at Mar 19, 97 11:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --IMA.Boundary.397142958-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 24 17:38:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA125613130; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:38:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28834; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:37:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:33:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28299; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:33:16 -0500 Received: from mail2a.pilot.net (mail2.pilot.net [198.232.147.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28281; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:33:11 -0500 Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (unknown-8-248.jud.state.ca.us [206.81.8.248]) by mail2a.pilot.net with SMTP id OAA14823 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:33:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00001C4B; Mon, 24 Mar 97 14:29:53 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:20:29 -0800 Message-Id: <00001C4B.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) Subject: re: 32 vs. 16 MB in TP (was: Third Party Memory) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My two cents: My brother-in-law just bought a 32 MB SO-DIMM from the Chip Merchant. Kudos to them: about 6 weeks ago, he asked them for the 32 MB SO-DIMM. At that time, they said they didn't carry it. So, he settled for the 16 MB. But, their Web page does show a part number for the 32 MB SO-DIMM at $355. When he pointed it out to them, about 2 weeks ago, they gave him a credit for the 16 MB and sent him the 32 SO-DIMM without waiting for him to return the 16 SO-DIMM. They did nick him $15 for a restocking fee. However, the performance of the 701 with Win95 seems to improve markably when running the same apps with 16 (+8) vs. 32 (+8). We've run two 701s side by side. There is minimal to no disk caching with the 32 MB upgrade. The situation where too much RAM memory slows down a system can occur with the definition of the size of the disk cache. To me, the classical example of this is with OS/2. OS/2 by default will allocate a disk cache that is typically 2x the RAM size. This is great for OS/2 boxes with something like 16-24 MB of RAM. In the good old days of expensive RAM, this made sense. When RAM prices crashed last year, and I splurged on RAM for my OS/2 box and pushed the RAM to 64 (an excessively silly amount), the performance noticably degraded. Why? Because the disk cache grew to 128 MB. Once I forced the disk cache back down to 32 MB, performance went back up. Win95 does something similar. But I don't understand lots of things with Win95. Hope this helps... Mitchell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: 16 v 32 on TP (was: Third Party Memory for the TP701) Author: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) at Internet Date: 3/19/97 10:10 AM Randy Whittle writes: > difference. I posted sometime back that according to Norton Utilities, my > base Win 95 setup (with the little extras loaded, like Norton Navigator > utils) uses up something like 30 MB RAM just by booting up and sitting > there without any additional software loaded. The Win 95 kernel alone > (without *any* fancy stuff--i.e., networking capability) takes up 12 MB RAM. What is NU really reporting here? I've run Win95 w/only 8 megs, and while it is sometimes horribly slow, at other times it runs fine w/no HD access visible. A fair fraction of this kernel must therefore be fairly irrelevant, and Windows must be smart enough to page it to disk and keep it there. (Good grief, I've just used 'Windows' and 'smart' in a sentence not containing the word 'not'!) The reason I raised the question is that the price difference between a 16 meg dimm and a 32 meg dimm is very substantial, and to me wouldn't be worthwhile unless software actually ran faster at times other than when it was being loaded. (Common 'wisdom' on comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips is that too much memory can actually slow a system down! I don't know whether to believe it.) - David From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 25 02:52:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA283336340; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 02:52:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00324; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 00:58:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Mar 1997 00:53:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29880; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 00:53:31 -0500 Received: from megspo1.megsinet.net (megspo.megsinet.net [206.222.62.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29862; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 00:53:20 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME ([208.150.38.197]) by megspo1.megsinet.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11704) with SMTP id AAA132 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 23:52:30 -0600 Message-Id: <3337868B.22D8@megspo.megsinet.net> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 00:02:20 -0800 From: dennis pantazis Reply-To: chessie@megspo.megsinet.net Organization: none really X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: FS: TP701 leather portfolio References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu FS: IBM Leather portfolio case for a 701C/CS. The leather cover neatly disguises and protects your 701. Lightly used but well taken care of. It wraps around the top, front, back and bottom of the machine and velcros shut. Neatly disuises the 701 like a day planner too! Good amount of padding to carry it in a backpack or briefcase ans protect it. $25 plus shipping of your choice From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 26 12:09:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA229836197; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:09:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14390; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:12:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:00:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13248; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:00:46 -0500 Received: from nemesis.cyberdrive.net (root@nemesis.cyberdrive.net [207.25.206.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13201; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:00:36 -0500 Received: from Cybergate.cybergate.net (clv-shv2-28.cyberdrive.net [207.25.201.97]) by nemesis.cyberdrive.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06020 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:00:52 GMT Message-Id: <199703261100.LAA06020@nemesis.cyberdrive.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Sandra Rozhon" Organization: Festival To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:59:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: 365XD Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just purchased a Thinkpad 365XD (2625-ERF) and am wondering if it's ok to leave the battery in the case all the time? Or should I be removing it when not in use? I also zapped the config.sys and autoexec.bat that came with the unit (don't ask -- an impolite DOS program overwrote them during installation), and wonder if anyone has copies they could send me. The configuration would be for a machine with a 4X CD-ROM and 8 MB of memory. Lastly, how can I tell which display type I have? Is there some clue in the model number? Thanks, Sandra From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 26 12:37:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA237357854; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:37:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22151; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:36:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:31:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21656; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:31:05 -0500 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21639; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:30:56 -0500 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00886; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:30:43 -0800 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:30:42 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Parker To: Sandra Rozhon Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 365XD In-Reply-To: <199703261100.LAA06020@nemesis.cyberdrive.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Sandra Rozhon wrote: > Lastly, how can I tell which display type I have? Is there some clue > in the model number? I looked on http://www.pc.ibm.com/thinkpad/ and couldn't find that specific model number. I also couldn't decipher IBM's model letter coding scheme. It may be a discontinued variant. Perhaps if you measure the screen diagonally and compare it to what they list you can find a match. Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 26 12:43:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA239368225; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:43:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22915; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:42:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:37:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22233; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:37:03 -0500 Received: from Owl.nstn.ca (owl.nstn.ca [137.186.128.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22216; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:36:55 -0500 Received: from innovacorp.ns.ca (nsrfc5.innovacorp.ns.ca [192.75.101.5]) by Owl.nstn.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA00360 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:36:45 -0400 (AST) Received: from hines.innovacorp.ns.ca by innovacorp.ns.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27152; Wed, 26 Mar 97 13:37:58 AST Message-Id: <9703261737.AA27152@innovacorp.ns.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Sandy Hines" Organization: InNOVAcorp To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:32:27 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: 760 ED mouse connection Reply-To: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Some how I feel foolish even asking this question. What is the best way to get a microsoft mouse to work with a TP 760 ED? I have gone to the control panel - mouse - general - change - microsoft and tried every driver with the mouse in the serial port on the back and plugged into the round port on the Right hand side. (I have an adapter) Rebooting constantly. No luck. I then tried using the standard mouse types yet again no luck. It is probably a simple switch (virtual type) that I have missed????? Anyone with a quick fix? Your help as always is appreciated. Sandy Alexander (Sandy) Hines Marketing and Sales Manager Engineering Serices @ InNOVAcorp Nova Scotia Innovation Corporation 101 Research Drive PO Box 790 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, B2y 3Z7, Canada Phone: 902 424 8670 ext. 155 800 565 7051 Fax: 902 465 7384 Email: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca WWW http://www.innovacorp.ns.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 26 13:07:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA245719629; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:07:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24863; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:05:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:02:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24566; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:02:25 -0500 Received: from m5.boston.juno.com (m5.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.197]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24553; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:02:20 -0500 Received: (from sirgwynz@juno.com) by m5.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id NOB27504; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:01:21 EST To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Killing Windows on a 365XD Message-Id: <19970326.101233.5471.0.sirgwynz@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1,3,5,7,9,11,13-14 From: sirgwynz@juno.com (Gwynzel B Vargas) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:01:21 EST Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I'm a new member to the mailing list, and the type of machine I have is a 365XD. I just purchased the machine a couple days ago and I already want to kill Windows :) I'm mostly a DOS fan so I'd like to boot up in pure 100% DOS but I'd like to keep a minimal installation (is there a such thing?? :) of Win'95 on the HD, so what's the best way of going about it? Should I start killing off the extra icons & Win programs or should I start off from scratch and just reformat the drive? Will it be safe to reformat to DOS 5.0 or will Win'95 have a problem with it? Thanks for any info! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 26 13:15:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA248440136; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:15:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25891; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:14:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:10:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25484; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:10:54 -0500 Received: from Owl.nstn.ca (owl.nstn.ca [137.186.128.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25421; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:10:42 -0500 Received: from innovacorp.ns.ca (nsrfc5.innovacorp.ns.ca [192.75.101.5]) by Owl.nstn.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA02393 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:10:38 -0400 (AST) Received: from hines.innovacorp.ns.ca by innovacorp.ns.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27431; Wed, 26 Mar 97 14:11:52 AST Message-Id: <9703261811.AA27431@innovacorp.ns.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Sandy Hines" Organization: InNOVAcorp To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:06:46 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Thanks got it , mouse that is Reply-To: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu thanks for the fast responses to the mouse problem. I needed to turn ON the serial port. It automatically disabled the eraserhead and now the mouse works fine. I looked at the TP features program but the display window did not come up. When I re-examined the control panel I realized that it was not at max size. When expanded to fit the screen I saw the serial port button and voila everything is fine now. thanks again . Sandy Alexander (Sandy) Hines Marketing and Sales Manager Engineering Serices @ InNOVAcorp Nova Scotia Innovation Corporation 101 Research Drive PO Box 790 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, B2y 3Z7, Canada Phone: 902 424 8670 ext. 155 800 565 7051 Fax: 902 465 7384 Email: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca WWW http://www.innovacorp.ns.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 26 13:52:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA259002324; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:52:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29168; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:51:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:47:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28825; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:47:19 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28811; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:47:15 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IGYFKN8EN49GY1R8@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:47:09 MST Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:08:34 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Killing Windows on a 365XD In-Reply-To: "Message dated Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:01:21 -0500 (EST)" <19970326.101233.5471.0.sirgwynz@juno.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IGYGYMTEI09GY1R8@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I'm mostly a DOS fan so I'd like to boot up in pure > 100% DOS [...] > Will it be safe to reformat to DOS 5.0 or will Win'95 have a > problem with I don't know about W95 but if you like DOS you should check out IBM's PC-DOS V7 - I think the upgrade is around $39, it's a definite improvement. More free memory, better utilities, etc, etc. A sales pitch is on IBM's web site but I forget exactly where, it's not hard to find though. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 26 13:57:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA261002669; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:57:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29851; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:56:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:53:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29384; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:53:43 -0500 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29374; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:53:39 -0500 Received: from cadezia-40.execpc.com (cadezia-40.execpc.com [169.207.66.106]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id MAA18881; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:53:27 -0600 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760 ED mouse connection Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:54:43 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <333b70b7.1052143@mailgate.execpc.com> References: <9703261737.AA27152@innovacorp.ns.ca> In-Reply-To: <9703261737.AA27152@innovacorp.ns.ca> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/16.390 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:32:27 -0400, you wrote: >Some how I feel foolish even asking this question. > >What is the best way to get a microsoft mouse to work with a TP 760 ED? > >I have gone to the control panel - mouse - general - change -=20 >microsoft and tried every driver with the mouse in the serial port=20 >on the back and plugged into the round port on the Right hand side.=20 >(I have an adapter) Rebooting constantly. No luck. I then tried=20 >using the standard mouse types yet again no luck. =20 > >It is probably a simple switch (virtual type) that I have missed????? > >Anyone with a quick fix? Your help as always is appreciated. Sandy, You don't say what OS you are using, but on the 760ED we have running Windows 3.1, we have had no problems. Just plug it in anytime, even after Windows has been started up, and there is no problem. Could it be the mouse itself? Tom Kustner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 26 14:05:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA262963149; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:05:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00878; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:04:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:01:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00611; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:01:36 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00600; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:01:32 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-b-53.usc.edu [128.125.222.53]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id LAA06452 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:01:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970326110238.0068bd10@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:02:43 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Randy Whittle Subject: 560 Buttons? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am dismayed that the left (the IMPORTANT one!) button of my trackpoint buttons basically broke a hinge and fell out. I really *don't* want to send this thing in for service if I can help it (don't want to be without the machine). Do you suppose I can just buy another button and replace it myself? Or get them to send me one for free under warranty (still less than a year since I bought it)? Anybody else have this happen to them? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 26 16:18:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA002551079; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:17:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08678; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:21:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:17:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07927; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:17:26 -0500 Received: from nemesis.cyberdrive.net (root@nemesis.cyberdrive.net [207.25.206.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07917; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:17:22 -0500 Received: from Cybergate.cybergate.net (clv-shv2-03.cyberdrive.net [207.25.201.72]) by nemesis.cyberdrive.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA31057 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:17:59 GMT Message-Id: <199703261517.PAA31057@nemesis.cyberdrive.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Sandra Rozhon" Organization: Festival To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:16:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: 760 ED mouse connection Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <9703261737.AA27152@innovacorp.ns.ca> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On 26 Mar 97, Sandy Hines penned the following: > Some how I feel foolish even asking this question. Don't....I have an even more foolish question. > > What is the best way to get a microsoft mouse to work with a TP 760 ED? > > I have gone to the control panel - mouse - general - change - > microsoft and tried every driver with the mouse in the serial port > on the back and plugged into the round port on the Right hand side. > (I have an adapter) I bought a mini-mouse that has a serial port plug. At $5, it looked like the ideal thing to take along on trips. Thinking that things might be easier if I used a PS/2 adapter, I bought one of those, too. Plugging into the PS/2 port doesn't seem to do a thing. What I need to know is, did I just forget a step like the other Sandy did? Or is it impossible to use a serial port mouse + adapter on the Thinkpad? If I can, what settings should I be using? Do I need to install the mouse drivers, or can I just depend on the WIN95 drivers that are already there? Also, can I have the option to use either one, or must I have one always disabled? I have the 365XD, if it matters. Sandy R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 26 16:20:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA003721208; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:20:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08461; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:21:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:16:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07804; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:16:13 -0500 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07794; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:16:07 -0500 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA01089; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:15:23 -0800 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:15:21 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Parker To: Gwynzel B Vargas Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Killing Windows on a 365XD In-Reply-To: <19970326.101233.5471.0.sirgwynz@juno.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Gwynzel B Vargas wrote: > Hello, I'm a new member to the mailing list, and the type of machine I > have is > a 365XD. I just purchased the machine a couple days ago and I already > want > to kill Windows :) I'm mostly a DOS fan so I'd like to boot up in pure > 100% DOS > but I'd like to keep a minimal installation (is there a such thing?? :) > of Win'95 on > the HD, so what's the best way of going about it? Should I start killing > off the > extra icons & Win programs or should I start off from scratch and just > reformat > the drive? Will it be safe to reformat to DOS 5.0 or will Win'95 have a > problem with > it? Thanks for any info! > If you don't mind leaving win95 intact, just get into msdos.sys and change the "BootGUI=1" line to read "BootGUI=0". Then it will act much like DOS/Win3.1 did. It will boot to DOS, then if you want to run Win95 just type "win" and hit enter. You will have to change the atributes for msdos.sys 'attrib msdos.sys -s -h -r" so you can edit it, then change it back with "attrib msdos.sys +s +h +r". If you are that much of a DOS person that would be easy. =) With Win95 msdos.sys just becomes a place to store some settings. You could always wipe away Win95 entirely, but I'd recommend keeping it intact. Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 26 18:23:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA047298637; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:23:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28940; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:21:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:18:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28640; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:18:09 -0500 Received: from emout11.mail.aol.com (emout11.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28611; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:18:00 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout11.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA04262 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:17:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:17:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970326181647_142645662@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Better Video Solution for 755CE/CX Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu We're running 755CE and 755CX machines in Dock Station 1 connected to NEC MultiSync XE17 (running at 1024x768) as a "portable" workstation. They each have 24->40Mb of RAM and are running Windoze95. We are running a very graphic intensive client/server application as well as Lotus Notes and a terminal emulator, and even with 40Mb, there is very slow video performance within the applications and when switching between applications (plus a lot of hard disk thrashing). IBM ThinkPad tech support told me these machines don't have video RAM. I'm considering removing the token ring cards from the dock station and using a PCMCIA token ring card and then bringing in some 2Mb Diamond SpeedStar64 video cards to put in the docking station. Has anyone else had this type of problem, and what was your solution? Any and all responses are greatly appreciated. Regards, Mike Pinter, Sr. Tenneco Automotive Lead Programmer/Analyst From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 26 22:48:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA124614518; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:48:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17441; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:47:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:45:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17197; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:45:02 -0500 Received: from camel6.mindspring.com (camel6.mindspring.com [204.180.128.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17170; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:44:57 -0500 Received: from tomcat133 (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by camel6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA20711 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:44:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970326221055.00729e54@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: dspeed@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:45:13 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Dave Speed Subject: Dock II Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) wrote: Greg: I have my 701 in a Dock II. You'll need the Dock II - 701 Adapter, which seems to run about $190. I have mixed feelings about the Dock II. The price you pay for the expandability includes sacrificing a large portion of your desktop. The footprint of the Dock II is substantial - it weighs about 30 pounds and has the area of a small desktop computer. On the other hand, you gain the option to add one 1" high device, CD or hard drive, one 1/2 height device (1.5"?) CD or hard drive. A 1" high CD is hard to find unless you buy an IBM labeled CD ROM drive. Teac used to (or may still) sell CD drives that fit into 1" bays. Otherwise, you can add in a normal 1/2 height device. My configuration consists of a 1 GB SCSI hard drive in the 1" bay, a JVC 4x2 CD-Writer (4x read, 2x write) in the 1/2 height bay. I've also got a ISA-10BaseT network card in one of the ISA slots. Often, there are additional SCSI devices daisychained to the external SCSI-2 slot. Summary: it might not make sense unless you REALLY need a CD. Even then, a better solution might be an add-on, external CD. On the other hand, if you get one cheap, then do it. Mike - I am in the market for a second laptop for my family. We have a 701C now and I am looking at the 760's and the Dock II. I intend to use the system in both mobile (ie away from my primary residence (apt)) and "on the road". For my application, the 760 is a desktop replacement where I could (hopefully) put a graphics card in the PCI slot and an external monitor for true desktop replacement. The extra bays are not so important to me - not as long as there is SCSI available. (Yes, $700 is an expensive case...). And it would be *real* nice to have the option to stick either the 701 or thge 760 into the support system. Questions: 1. What flavor of CD Rom drive does it support ? IDE or SCSI 2. Can one indeed run an external video card in this configuration ? Any sources for less than full price Dock II's gleefully accepted. Dave From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 27 06:09:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA239830940; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 06:09:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26847; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 06:08:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Mar 1997 06:05:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26560; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 06:05:19 -0500 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26541; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 06:05:13 -0500 Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (actually rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:04:16 +0100 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BC3AA6.F8CD0860@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:04:07 +0100 Message-Id: <01BC3AA6.F8CD0860@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: Axel Hartmann To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Killing Windows on a 365XD Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:02:39 +0100 Encoding: 39 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu hi, it would probably be fastest if you tell windows95 not to go into the windows part, using BootGUI=0 or something like that. if you want to go cheap use OpenDOS, by caldera, which is free for personal use and is basically the descendant of Digital Research DR-DOS / NovellDOS.. axel On Mittwoch, 26. Marz 1997 12:08, billy@MIX.COM wrote: >> I'm mostly a DOS fan so I'd like to boot up in pure >> 100% DOS [...] >> Will it be safe to reformat to DOS 5.0 or will Win'95 have a >> problem with > >I don't know about W95 but if you like DOS you should check >out IBM's PC-DOS V7 - I think the upgrade is around $39, it's >a definite improvement. More free memory, better utilities, >etc, etc. A sales pitch is on IBM's web site but I forget >exactly where, it's not hard to find though. > >Billy Y.. > > ....................................................................... . Axel Hartmann . . Paper : Blumenstr. 15; 76133 Karlsruhe; Germany . Voice : [0|xx49] 721 - 27115 . . E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . ....................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 27 10:26:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA008256416; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:26:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15651; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:24:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:21:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15257; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:21:35 -0500 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15220; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:21:23 -0500 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA46092; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:20:21 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:20:21 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Installing NT4 on 755cd? Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone figured out a way to install NT4.0 on a 755cd? The problem is you need to have the floppy drive plugged in to run the install disks, but then it doesn't see the cdrom drive. If you boot into dos and run Winnt from the cdrom then it asks you for three floppies to make the install disks so it's a catch 22. Thanks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 27 10:28:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA008616482; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:28:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16020; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:26:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:23:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15379; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:23:23 -0500 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15365; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:23:19 -0500 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11830; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:22:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:22:18 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Floppy drive sleeve for 760's Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've heard that on the 760's you can buy an optional part that lets you plug in the floppy drive externally to the thinkpad so you can use the floppy drive at the same time as the cdrom drive? Does anyone know what the part # is and how much it costs? Thanks Josh Hosseinof hosseino@ymail.yu.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 27 10:56:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA017358197; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:56:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19503; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:54:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:51:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19138; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:51:10 -0500 Received: from columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be (columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be [130.104.14.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19103; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:50:57 -0500 Received: from columbia (unverified [130.104.14.58]) by columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:53:56 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970327175356.0096eb44@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be> X-Sender: myself@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:53:56 -0100 To: Joshua Hosseinof From: Alain Jacques Subject: Re: Installing NT4 on 755cd? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:20 27/03/97 -0500, you wrote: >Has anyone figured out a way to install NT4.0 on a 755cd? The problem is >you need to have the floppy drive plugged in to run the install disks, but >then it doesn't see the cdrom drive. If you boot into dos and run Winnt >from the cdrom then it asks you for three floppies to make the install >disks so it's a catch 22. Not really. If you have enough disk space, you can install NT from the 755 hard disk. Regards, Alain From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 27 11:22:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA025729757; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:22:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22299; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:19:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:16:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21891; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:16:04 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21871; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:15:58 -0500 Received: from ssh.noc.interop.net (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20293; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:17:11 -0700 Message-Id: <333A9C3B.1B43@wwsi.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:11:39 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Alain Jacques Cc: Joshua Hosseinof , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Installing NT4 on 755cd? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <1.5.4.32.19970327175356.0096eb44@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Alain Jacques wrote: > At 10:20 27/03/97 -0500, you wrote: > >Has anyone figured out a way to install NT4.0 on a 755cd? The problem is > >you need to have the floppy drive plugged in to run the install disks, but > >then it doesn't see the cdrom drive. If you boot into dos and run Winnt > >from the cdrom then it asks you for three floppies to make the install > >disks so it's a catch 22. > > Not really. If you have enough disk space, you can install NT from the 755 > hard disk. Another alternative is a docking station with a CD ROM drive in it. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 27 11:49:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA033841354; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:49:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25606; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:48:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:45:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25123; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:45:00 -0500 Received: from mail2a.pilot.net ([198.232.147.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25112; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:44:56 -0500 Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (unknown-8-248.jud.state.ca.us [206.81.8.248]) by mail2a.pilot.net with SMTP id IAA26437; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 08:44:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 0000223E; Thu, 27 Mar 97 08:41:43 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 08:41:36 -0800 Message-Id: <0000223E.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Dave Speed Subject: Re: Dock II Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.309084958" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the remainder, you will need to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.309084958 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part The Dock II does SCSI or at least one IDE device. It may do 2, but I don't remember the cable configuraton. For me, SCSI is more versatile and so almost all of my devices are SCSI (unless someone gives me a IDE device). BTW: keep checking this list and the bboard misc.for-sale.laptops(?). You should be able to pick up a Dock for much less. Mitchell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Dock II Author: Dave Speed at Internet Date: 3/26/97 10:45 PM Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) wrote: Greg: I have my 701 in a Dock II. You'll need the Dock II - 701 Adapter, which seems to run about $190. I have mixed feelings about the Dock II. The price you pay for the expandability includes sacrificing a large portion of your desktop. The footprint of the Dock II is substantial - it weighs about 30 pounds and has the area of a small desktop computer. On the other hand, you gain the option to add one 1" high device, CD or hard drive, one 1/2 height device (1.5"?) CD or hard drive. A 1" high CD is hard to find unless you buy an IBM labeled CD ROM drive. Teac used to (or may still) sell CD drives that fit into 1" bays. Otherwise, you can add in a normal 1/2 height device. My configuration consists of a 1 GB SCSI hard drive in the 1" bay, a JVC 4x2 CD-Writer (4x read, 2x write) in the 1/2 height bay. I've also got a ISA-10BaseT network card in one of the ISA slots. Often, there are additional SCSI devices daisychained to the external SCSI-2 slot. Summary: it might not make sense unless you REALLY need a CD. Even then, a better solution might be an add-on, external CD. On the other hand, if you get one cheap, then do it. Mike - I am in the market for a second laptop for my family. We have a 701C now and I am looking at the 760's and the Dock II. I intend to use the system in both mobile (ie away from my primary residence (apt)) and "on the road". For my application, the 760 is a desktop replacement where I could (hopefully) put a graphics card in the PCI slot and an external monitor for true desktop replacement. The extra bays are not so important to me - not as long as there is SCSI available. (Yes, $700 is an expensive case...). And it would be *real* nice to have the option to stick either the 701 or thge 760 into the support system. Questions: 1. What flavor of CD Rom drive does it support ? IDE or SCSI 2. Can one indeed run an external video card in this configuration ? Any sources for less than full price Dock II's gleefully accepted. Dave --IMA.Boundary.309084958 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (198.232.147.17) by ima.jud.ca.gov with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 0000219A; Wed, 26 Mar 97 19:45:46 -0800 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mail-oak-2.pilot.net with SMTP id TAA22228 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17449; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:47:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:45:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17197; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:45:02 -0500 Received: from camel6.mindspring.com (camel6.mindspring.com [204.180.128.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17170; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:44:57 -0500 Received: from tomcat133 (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by camel6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA20711 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:44:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970326221055.00729e54@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: dspeed@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:45:13 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Dave Speed Subject: Dock II Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --IMA.Boundary.309084958-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 27 12:01:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA037572063; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:01:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26850; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:58:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:56:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26465; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:56:13 -0500 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26455; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:56:06 -0500 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA28150; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:55:34 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA859488931; Thu, 27 Mar 97 10:50:05 CST Date: Thu, 27 Mar 97 10:50:05 CST Encoding: 21 Text Message-Id: <9702278594.AA859488931@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Joshua Hosseinof Subject: Re: Installing NT4 on 755cd? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Run "d:\i386\winnt /b" from the CD Rom. The /b option will do a floppyless installation. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Installing NT4 on 755cd? Author: Joshua Hosseinof at Gateway Date: 3/27/97 9:35 AM Has anyone figured out a way to install NT4.0 on a 755cd? The problem is you need to have the floppy drive plugged in to run the install disks, but then it doesn't see the cdrom drive. If you boot into dos and run Winnt from the cdrom then it asks you for three floppies to make the install disks so it's a catch 22. Thanks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 27 12:16:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA042742974; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:16:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28391; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:14:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:12:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28237; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:12:34 -0500 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28223; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:12:28 -0500 Received: from jim.dhs.com ([198.69.202.22]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5/jdp-0326-1950) with SMTP id LAA24308; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:11:46 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <333AAB49.61B6@cyberramp.net> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:15:53 -0600 From: Jim Reply-To: jmcghee@cyberramp.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Hultquist Cc: Alain Jacques , Joshua Hosseinof , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Installing NT4 on 755cd? References: <1.5.4.32.19970327175356.0096eb44@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be> <333A9C3B.1B43@wwsi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, If you type winnt /? you will get a list of options. I believe the ones you need are /b and /x (I think). These will allow you to install winnt without making floppies. Jim McGhee Steve Hultquist wrote: > > Alain Jacques wrote: > > At 10:20 27/03/97 -0500, you wrote: > > >Has anyone figured out a way to install NT4.0 on a 755cd? The problem is > > >you need to have the floppy drive plugged in to run the install disks, but > > >then it doesn't see the cdrom drive. If you boot into dos and run Winnt > > >from the cdrom then it asks you for three floppies to make the install > > >disks so it's a catch 22. > > > > Not really. If you have enough disk space, you can install NT from the 755 > > hard disk. > > Another alternative is a docking station with a CD ROM drive in it. > -- > Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. > Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado > mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 28 10:47:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA134104019; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:46:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07120; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:45:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:42:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06672; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:42:03 -0500 Received: from acme.sb.west.net (root@acme.sb.west.net [205.254.224.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06662; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:41:59 -0500 Received: from richard-s-pico (term1-8.sb.west.net [205.254.225.8]) by acme.sb.west.net (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA16165 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 07:41:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970328074224.006e4e48@mail.west.net> X-Sender: richram@mail.west.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 07:42:24 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Richard Rampton Subject: 8 MB Memory for 750-C for sale cheap Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I increased the memory in my slightly slow but trusty 750-C since Win-95 and Office 97 demand so much. As a result, I have a true blue IBM 8 MB memory card. It cost a small fortune 3.5 years ago, but I'll mail it to someone for 20 bucks if it can find a good use...... My 750-C has worked every day for 3.5 years without a hitch, without a complaint or sick day. It does ask for a "raise" from time to time. Like a new hard disk, memory, etc. But I love the reliability. I'll stick with slightly slow for a while....... Richard From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 28 22:45:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA062657151; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 22:45:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28906; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 22:44:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 28 Mar 1997 22:40:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28599; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 22:40:56 -0500 Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28589; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 22:40:51 -0500 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.184.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/03/20 3.25)) id WAA04324; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 22:40:47 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from portege3400 (61010d0018dc.concentric.net [206.173.55.246]) by newman.concentric.net (8.8.5) id WAA13982; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 22:40:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703290340.WAA13982@newman.concentric.net> From: "Steven S. Tauber" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: ThinkPad 701 Modem Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 22:36:59 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I had to reformat my butterfly and forgot to note the "additional settings" to get the internal modem to function properly. Can someone email me the proper initialization string? Thanks. (BTW, I'm running Win95) Steve Tauber From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 29 11:06:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA243781576; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 11:06:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18048; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 11:04:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 29 Mar 1997 10:59:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17757; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 10:59:39 -0500 Received: from ns3.interserf.net (root@[205.244.8.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17747; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 10:59:35 -0500 Received: from serfer20.interserf.net (serfer20.interserf.net [205.244.8.39]) by ns3.interserf.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21199; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 10:59:53 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 10:59:53 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970329110222.2a87198c@mail.interserf.net> X-Sender: vicgonzlez@mail.interserf.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Vic Gonzalez Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701 Modem Cc: "Steven S. Tauber" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Would it be possible to post this info to the list? Thanks. At 10:36 PM 3/28/97 -0500, you wrote: >I had to reformat my butterfly and forgot to note the "additional settings" >to get the internal modem to function properly. Can someone email me the >proper initialization string? Thanks. (BTW, I'm running Win95) >Steve Tauber > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 29 13:09:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA275568984; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:09:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25531; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:09:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:05:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25270; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:05:19 -0500 Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25234; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:05:09 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id NAA10358 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:04:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:04:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970329130434_1518566023@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: New machine Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi! I am new to the list and recently subscribed because I ordered a Thinkpad a few days ago. I should have the machine by April 7 and ordered it from IBM Direct using my stockholder's discount. Here are the specs. Please tell me what you think of it. I would also be interested to hear of any tips or cool features related to the the Thinkpad. Here goes... * Thinkpad 365XD * Pentium 120MHz * 1.08G Hard Drive * 10.4" Active Matrix display * 24MB RAM * 33.6 modem * 6X CD-ROM * NiMH battery * AC Adapter * Floppy Drive * 1 year warranty My final cost with shipping and all is: $2560.49 I will be taking my machine to school (I am a high school freshman). I will be using it to surf the net as well. Is there a way to download files from the Thinkpad to a non-IBM desktop? John http://www.cybercom.net/~ruda/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 29 18:26:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA062317989; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:26:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15028; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:25:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:22:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14627; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:22:55 -0500 Received: from mail.toronto.istar.net (Mail.Toronto.iSTAR.net [204.191.136.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14616; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:22:51 -0500 Received: from inforamp.net (InfoRamp.net [204.191.136.8]) by mail.toronto.istar.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA28838 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:22:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from ts57-11.tor.iSTAR.ca (ts30-09.tor.iSTAR.ca [204.191.149.216]) by inforamp.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA16889 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 17:55:16 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: <199703292155.RAA16889@inforamp.net> X-Sender: valliant@inforamp.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 16:53:45 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: valliant@micomtech.com (Hugh Valliant) Subject: Ghost & 755s Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've been trying to link up 2 755s using the program GHOST - a disk copying program. I have not been able to get the program to "see" the 2 computers. Has anyone on the list been able to successfully link up 2 ThinkPads using this program? It looks good and says it does what I would like to do. Being Easter, of course, the software developer doesn't answer his phone. >> Any responses greatfully accepted. TIA Hugh ============================ MI-COM Technology Computer Solutions for Small Business Helping you access and travel the Information Highway Hugh A. Valliant Bus. (416) 726-5355 Fax. (416) 699-3847 Internet valliant@micomtech.com http://www.micomtech.com/~valliant/ ============================= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 30 22:48:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA187590079; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:47:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03200; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:45:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:39:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02376; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:39:25 -0500 Received: from unexexch.unex.ucla.edu (exchange.unex.ucla.edu [128.97.115.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02344; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:39:17 -0500 Received: by unexexch.unex.ucla.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC3D41.EC508600@unexexch.unex.ucla.edu>; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 19:38:20 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Swartz, Charles" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: 560 lockup/suspend problem Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:25:00 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've been using my new 133 MHz 560 for about 6 weeks now. Only one problem: Occasionally the trackball and keyboard lock up. No input - even CTRL-ALT-DEL doesn't register. This happens both with the battery and AC. When it happens, the SUSPEND indicator light starts blinking green. FN-F4 (suspend) does nothing. FN-F12 or FN-F2 produce a BONG sound and the blinking green goes out - but the freeze continues. Closing the cover and reopening also is ineffective. The only way I can stop it is cold reboot. I noticed on the ThinkPad IBM site: ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/sytpk104.txt an update for the 560 BIOS, with 3 versions. But I have the second, v. 1.01 (which does describe some fixes to SUSPEND). V. 1.04, which is later, seems only to address adding password capability. Is there a setting in TP Tools that I'm missing? Thanks in advance, Charles S. Swartz Program Manager Department of Entertainment Studies and Performing Arts (ESPA) UCLA Extension 310-825-9634 Phone 310-206-7435 Fax cswartz@unex.ucla.edu 10995 Le Conte Ave. Los Angeles, CA 90024 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 30 22:55:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA189750527; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:55:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04049; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:53:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:50:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03775; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:50:07 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03740; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:50:00 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA68664 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 03:49:44 GMT Message-Id: <199703310349.DAA68664@out2.ibm.net> Received: from adnline240111.adnc.com(206.251.240.111) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaRQQDFW; Mon Mar 31 03:49:26 1997 From: "Stephen Hosmer" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 30 Mar 97 19:34:21 +0800 Reply-To: "Stephen Hosmer" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Stephen Hosmer's Registered PMMail 1.9 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Digest request. Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Please send me the digest version of the list _______________________________________ Stephen Hosmer (hosmer@royl.com) Chief Financial Officer Royale Energy Inc. (NASDAQ: ROYL) http://www.royl.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 01:41:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA231370461; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 01:41:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14313; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 01:39:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 01:35:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13957; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 01:35:02 -0500 Received: from mail-gw3.pacbell.net (mail-gw3.pacbell.net [206.13.28.55]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13930; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 01:34:57 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-117-37.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.117.37]) by mail-gw3.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA04416 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:34:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703310634.WAA04416@mail-gw3.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: FS: IBM 810MB 2.5" Slimline Drive Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:30:43 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu IBM 810MB 12.5mm Laptop Hard Drive -- $180 (OBO) -Model #DSOA-20810 -810MB Capacity (1575 Cyl, 16 Hd, 63 Sect) -13 ms Access Time -12.5mm Thick (Slim-Line), 2.5" Wide -EIDE Mode 4 -Bare drive -- Doesn't include caddy -No Bad Sectors -Perfect Condition -Should work in any notebook with EIDE Connector view of drive: ---------------------------- | | | ...................... .. | 22 + 2 pins | ............ ......... .. | 21 + 2 pins Pulled from Thinkpad laptop, but will work in many others. Price includes UPS ground shipping and COD charges to US addresses. Sorry, I have no way to accept credit cards. For details check out: http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/dsoa/dsoatek.htm For another $20, I can include a converter to allow use in a desktop machine. \\|||// (o) (o) =========.oOO==( )==OOo.=========== || || || Thomas D. Franklin || || mailto:tomfrank@pacbell.net || || || || .oooO Oooo. || ==========( )===( )============ \ ( ) / \_) (_/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 07:29:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA015571373; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:29:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12390; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:27:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:24:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12166; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:24:47 -0500 Received: from lucius.ultra.net (lucius.ultra.net [199.232.56.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12155; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:24:42 -0500 Received: from cleopatra.ultra.net (cleopatra.ultra.net [199.232.56.35]) by lucius.ultra.net (8.8.5/ult1.05) with ESMTP id HAA06718 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from chenoweth.ultranet.com (kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com [205.246.12.253]) by cleopatra.ultra.net (8.8.5/ult1.05) with ESMTP id HAA31510; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:24:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kendall@localhost) by chenoweth.ultranet.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id HAA03463; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:24:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:23:59 -0500 (EST) From: Kendall Don Chenoweth X-Sender: kendall@kendall.chenoweth.net To: Tom Franklin Cc: Thinkpad Distribution List Subject: Re: FS: IBM 810MB 2.5" Slimline Drive In-Reply-To: <199703310634.WAA04416@mail-gw3.pacbell.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Tom Franklin wrote: > > IBM 810MB 12.5mm Laptop Hard Drive -- $180 (OBO) > -Model #DSOA-20810 > -810MB Capacity (1575 Cyl, 16 Hd, 63 Sect) > -13 ms Access Time > -12.5mm Thick (Slim-Line), 2.5" Wide > -EIDE Mode 4 > -Bare drive -- Doesn't include caddy > -No Bad Sectors > -Perfect Condition > -Should work in any notebook with EIDE > > Connector view of drive: > ---------------------------- > | | > | ...................... .. | 22 + 2 pins > | ............ ......... .. | 21 + 2 pins > I'm interested.... Kendall Chenoweth, kendall@ultranet.com 508 626-2686 > Pulled from Thinkpad laptop, but will work in many others. Price includes > UPS ground shipping and COD charges to US addresses. Sorry, I have no way > to accept credit cards. For details check out: > http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/dsoa/dsoatek.htm Will this work in an IBM thinkpad 750? What kind of thinkpad did this come from? What was this drive used for before? How old is it? What is the occasion for selling it? > For another $20, I can include a converter to allow use in a desktop > machine. > Not ilnterseted in this. kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com http://www.ultranet.com/~kendall 20 Eames Street, Apt #19 Fidelity Investments, Systems Company Framingham, MA 01704 VOICE (508) 787-7744 VOICE (508) 626-2686 PAGER (800) 759-8888 [beeper #2128450] DATA/FAX (508) 628-9283 http://www.fidelity.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 09:20:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA043808050; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 09:20:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21383; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 09:18:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 09:15:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20970; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 09:15:53 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20954; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 09:15:47 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA182370; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 14:15:44 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-100.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.100) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaSakDM2; Mon Mar 31 14:14:48 1997 Message-Id: <333FC6F3.52C7@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:15:15 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: thinkpads@cs.utk.edu Subject: Internet Connection Phone and TP760!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anyone here on the list been able to get the Internet Connection Phone or CoolTalkz to work under the TP760 (E/ED/EL/etc)? Any help setting up the mwave modem would be appreciated. -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. Engineer/Author/Consultant 2 Applied Info & Mgnt Sys, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v: 801-583-8544 e: aimsllc@ibm.net / bangell@cs.utah.edu 4 -------------------------------------------------------- 5 Applied Info & Mngmnt Systems has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet, Notes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCPIP,etc), Custom (AWK-PERL-C-Visualizer), 8 Database dsgn/dev. 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From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 11:08:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA075544503; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 11:08:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26406; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 10:04:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 10:01:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25673; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 10:01:18 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25641; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 10:01:06 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-h-07.usc.edu [128.125.224.7]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id HAA17476; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:00:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970331070214.01531e90@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:02:20 -0800 To: "Tom Franklin" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: FS: IBM 810MB 2.5" Slimline Drive Cc: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:30 PM 3/30/97 -0800, Tom Franklin wrote: >IBM 810MB 12.5mm Laptop Hard Drive -- $180 (OBO) >Pulled from Thinkpad laptop, but will work in many others. Price includes Sounds like this came out of a 560. If it did, would you be good enough to tell us what drive you put *in* to the 560 as a replacement (if any)? I'd be interested in upgrading the HD in my 560 sometime in the near future and if you have already done so with that 560, I'd appreciate any information (I'd like to go to 2 GB). ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 31 12:56:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA121260981; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 12:56:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13417; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 12:44:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 12:39:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12991; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 12:39:32 -0500 Received: from relay1.smtp.psi.net (relay1.smtp.psi.net [38.8.14.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12981; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 12:39:27 -0500 Received: from mail.watsonwyatt.com by relay1.smtp.psi.net (8.8.3/SMI-5.4-PSI) id MAA11621; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 12:39:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccMail by mail.watsonwyatt.com (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 000D573D; Mon, 31 Mar 97 12:31:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 10:54:36 -0500 Message-Id: <000D573D.1308@watsonwyatt.com> From: Robert_Huber@watsonwyatt.com (Robert Huber) Subject: TP Crash Protection To: Randy Whittle Cc: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I a previous posting you noted that you carry your TP in a back pack. What do you do to protect the computer from the knocks and bangs a back pack is sometimes subject to? Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 13:49:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA146094161; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 13:49:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19846; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 13:47:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 13:43:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19512; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 13:43:37 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19501; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 13:43:32 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IH5CPJPHRK9GZBSQ@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 11:43:20 MST Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 11:37:35 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Internet Connection Phone and TP760!!! In-Reply-To: "Message dated Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:15:15 -0700" <333FC6F3.52C7@ibm.net> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IH5GALRJVI9GZBSQ@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Anyone here on the list been able to get the Internet Connection > Phone or CoolTalkz to work under the TP760 (E/ED/EL/etc)? Any > help setting up the mwave modem would be appreciated. I was fooling around with the phone program a couple weeks ago on my 755. I noticed it likes to hang when it starts, but then if I started a second copy and exited it then the first one would start running - after that it works ok and I can talk ok with the modem at 28k8, using the half-duplex talk mode. I wrote to their support with a very thorough description of the problem but I never got a rational answer back - it was like they didn't read 99% of my letters (went through this twice). Anyway I'll be trying this again later in the week - I could save a ton of money if the darn thing would just start up and go without any wierdness... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 14:42:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA170507357; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 14:42:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25947; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 14:40:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 14:37:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25765; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 14:37:50 -0500 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25755; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 14:37:47 -0500 Received: from CLAUDIA ([129.126.232.4]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA04910 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 14:36:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199703311936.AA04910@kodakr.kodak.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 11:35:00 -0500 From: "King, Randall" Subject: Ultrabay question To: thinkpad X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone used the Ultrabay to use a second hard drive? Is there anything special that needs to be done in order to use the old (ie 750-755 series) hard drives? Does the second hard drive have a special connector? Does anyone have a part number, or a cost for this? I went out to IBM's site, and they didn't have any specific info. RK From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 15:01:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA178508503; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 15:01:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22734; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 14:03:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 13:59:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21953; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 13:59:51 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21934; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 13:59:45 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IH5CPJPHRK9GZBSQ@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 11:59:38 MST Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 11:54:17 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: TP Crash Protection In-Reply-To: "Message dated Mon, 31 Mar 1997 10:54:36 -0500" <000D573D.1308@watsonwyatt.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IH5GUTP3NS9GZBSQ@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I a previous posting you noted that you carry your TP in > a back pack. What do you do to protect the computer from the > knocks and bangs a back pack is sometimes subject to? I usually wrap mine up in the pink anti-static bubble wrap (one of my clients buys this in huge rolls) - the idea being to keep the total weight as low as possible as some of the places I work are a long hike from the nearest parking lot. The bubble wrap usually lasts a couple months of 4 days weeks. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 15:54:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA205821670; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 15:54:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03913; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 15:52:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 15:49:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03379; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 15:49:10 -0500 Received: from show54020.geoshows.net (show54020.geoshows.net [209.0.54.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03367; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 15:49:04 -0500 Received: from ssh.noc.interop.net (show54003.geoshows.net [209.0.54.3]) by show54020.geoshows.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01774; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 12:48:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <33402250.79E0@wwsi.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 13:45:04 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "King, Randall" Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: Ultrabay question X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199703311936.AA04910@kodakr.kodak.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You need the Ultrabay hard disk adapter. It's about $50. I don't have the part number. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 17:12:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA242026370; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:12:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12042; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:11:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:08:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11525; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:08:58 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11504; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:08:51 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA125193; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 22:08:37 GMT Received: from unknown(204.146.159.218) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaVZICSM; Mon Mar 31 22:01:31 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970331165750.01354500@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> X-Sender: jloyles@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:57:50 -0500 To: Robert_Huber@watsonwyatt.com (Robert Huber) From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: TP Crash Protection Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <000D573D.1308@watsonwyatt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:54 AM 3/31/97 -0500, you wrote: > I a previous posting you noted that you carry your TP in > a back pack. What do you do to protect the computer from the > knocks and bangs a back pack is sometimes subject to? > I'm not Randy, but I use a backpack also. Short answer is nothing. Long answer is that I have a Silicon Sports (now Kensington) backpack that has some padding. I've been carrying my TP755CE in it back and forth to work and on planes for almost 2 years with no discernable damage. The outside pocket is usually stuffed with paperwork, cases for CDs, extra HDs, floppies and a Hefty One-Zip bag of misc laptop items (cables, connectors, power supply, modem line tester, keyboard light, etc.) all of which tends to keep anything from bumping the TP itself. I try not to set it down heavily as the padding in the bottom is rather thin after 2 years. You can get this bag from MacWarehouse (800.255.6227) or (sometimes) from CompUSA. It's around $70-80. Hope this helps! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 17:31:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA250487511; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:31:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14021; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:30:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:28:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13754; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:28:23 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13744; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:28:19 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-i-20.usc.edu [128.125.224.92]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id OAA09396; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 14:28:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970331141651.0068eedc@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 14:29:24 -0800 To: Robert_Huber@watsonwyatt.com (Robert Huber) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: TP Crash Protection Cc: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:54 AM 3/31/97 -0500, Robert Huber wrote: > I a previous posting you noted that you carry your TP in > a back pack. What do you do to protect the computer from the > knocks and bangs a back pack is sometimes subject to? Up until recently, I didn't. ;-) A while back I bought a backpack that had sort of a "compartment" designed to pad & protect a notebook computer. I like it also because it keeps the backside of the pack stiff & in a flat-form--much more comfortable for carrying items that don't always conform to how a backpack should be shaped on your back (i.e., bulge & poke your back). For even better protection, PORT makes a backpack that likely incorporates their "sling" design that cradles the computer with a space underneath the sling for better protection in impact situations. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 17:40:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA254748014; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:40:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15014; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:38:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:35:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14700; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:35:53 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14650; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:35:41 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA11413; Mon, 31 Mar 97 12:35:37 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA12268; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 12:36:31 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199703312236.MAA12268@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: TP Crash Protection To: jloyless@netbox.com (Jane Loyless) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 97 12:36:28 HST Cc: Robert_Huber@watsonwyatt.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970331165750.01354500@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net>; from "Jane Loyless" at Mar 31, 97 4:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Long answer is that I have a Silicon Sports (now Kensington) backpack that > has some padding. I've been carrying my TP755CE in it back and forth to > work and on planes for almost 2 years with no discernable damage. Speaking of Silicon Sports, I usually keep my 701 in one of their "Wetsuit" cases, a form-fitting neoprene case which can be used separately or slid easily into a briefcase or backpack. This is very useful for air travel: in the airport I have the computer in the wetsuit in my carry-on, then when I'm on the plane I put the carry-on in the overhead and slip the wetsuit case out to keep with me (it will contain the computer and papers related to my work). The neoprene provides decent protection, is lightweight, and the encased computer is not much bigger than the computer alone. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 17:58:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA264209129; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:58:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16951; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:57:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:54:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16568; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:54:24 -0500 Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16557; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:54:20 -0500 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08385 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:54:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB24777; Mon, 31 Mar 97 17:59:09 EST Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA29142 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:59:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:59:08 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP Crash Protection In-Reply-To: <199703312236.MAA12268@tarski.hawaii.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Some of you may want to take note of my new email address. On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, David Ross wrote: > > Long answer is that I have a Silicon Sports (now Kensington) backpack that > > has some padding. I've been carrying my TP755CE in it back and forth to > > work and on planes for almost 2 years with no discernable damage. > > Speaking of Silicon Sports, I usually keep my 701 in one of their > "Wetsuit" cases, a form-fitting neoprene case which can be used Does anyone know if these are still made? I wasn't able to find any around the size of the 701 late last year. > contain the computer and papers related to my work). The neoprene > provides decent protection, is lightweight, and the encased computer > is not much bigger than the computer alone. If I'm not mistaken, there's also a metal plate imbedded in the neoprene to act as a shield for the back of the lid (read LCD). I don't worry too much about my 701 not having enough padding. It's survived several naked falls onto carpeting and hardwood floors without incident (the one which nearly killed it was onto a tile surface - don't ask :). What I *do* worry about is a small object poking into it (like a mislaid cable plug or AC adapter prong) while it's in the bag. I make sure to put a stiff clipboard or hardcover book next to the computer whenever possible. That distributes the load from anything that might poke through the LCD. What I'd really like is some sort of stiff frame which could do the job of the clipboard/book full-time. When I'm not carrying the computer, it would also help maintain the shape of the backpack or shoulder bag. -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 18:15:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA271710136; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:15:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18874; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:11:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:08:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18373; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:08:28 -0500 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18256; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:08:10 -0500 Received: from CLAUDIA ([129.126.232.4]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA19571 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:06:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199703312306.AA19571@kodakr.kodak.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:55:00 -0500 From: "King, Randall" Subject: Re: TP Crash Protection To: Jane Loyless , Robert Huber Cc: thinkpad X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a Targus backpack. It has a center pocket for the laptop, and pockets on both sides for protection. Also, it has some padding around the 'chamber' edges for more insulation. RK ---------- >From: Jane Loyless >To: Robert Huber >Cc: thinkpad >Subject: Re: TP Crash Protection >Date: Monday, March 31, 1997 4:57PM > >At 10:54 AM 3/31/97 -0500, you wrote: > >> I a previous posting you noted that you carry your TP in >> a back pack. What do you do to protect the computer from the >> knocks and bangs a back pack is sometimes subject to? >> > >I'm not Randy, but I use a backpack also. > >Short answer is nothing. > >Long answer is that I have a Silicon Sports (now Kensington) backpack that >has some padding. I've been carrying my TP755CE in it back and forth to >work and on planes for almost 2 years with no discernable damage. > >The outside pocket is usually stuffed with paperwork, cases for CDs, extra >HDs, floppies and a Hefty One-Zip bag of misc laptop items (cables, >connectors, power supply, modem line tester, keyboard light, etc.) all of >which tends to keep anything from bumping the TP itself. I try not to set >it down heavily as the padding in the bottom is rather thin after 2 years. > >You can get this bag from MacWarehouse (800.255.6227) or (sometimes) from >CompUSA. It's around $70-80. > >Hope this helps! > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 18:16:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA272120196; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:16:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19285; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:14:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:10:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18566; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:10:16 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18545; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:10:10 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA11671; Mon, 31 Mar 97 13:09:39 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA12311; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 13:10:33 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199703312310.NAA12311@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: TP Crash Protection To: kim@mak.com (John Kim) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 97 13:10:30 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "John Kim" at Mar 31, 97 5:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > Speaking of Silicon Sports, I usually keep my 701 in one of their > > "Wetsuit" cases, a form-fitting neoprene case which can be used > > Does anyone know if these are still made? I wasn't able to find > any around the size of the 701 late last year. Internet Shopping Network (www.isn.com) still lists them as "In Stock". > If I'm not mistaken, there's also a metal plate imbedded in the > neoprene to act as a shield for the back of the lid (read LCD). Yes, there is. The main problem with the wetsuit on the 701 is that the cases are designed to be left on the machine at all times, but aren't designed with the butterfly keyboard in mind, so the computer actually has to be removed. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 19:25:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA002574323; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:25:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25065; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:24:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:19:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24659; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:19:44 -0500 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24649; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:19:36 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-121-58.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.121.58]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA11175; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:17:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199704010017.QAA11175@mail-gw.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Randy Whittle" , , stowe@rsn.hp.com Cc: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: Re: FS: IBM 810MB 2.5" Slimline Drive Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:14:52 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Sounds like this came out of a 560. > > If it did, would you be good enough to tell us what drive you put *in* to > the 560 as a replacement (if any)? > > I'd be interested in upgrading the HD in my 560 sometime in the near > future and if you have already done so with that 560, I'd appreciate any > information (I'd like to go to 2 GB). I bought this drive in a caddy for a TP760E. I am selling the drive, but keeping the caddy for use when the prices on the 2.1 GB drives become reasonable. Good luck on the TP560. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 31 20:25:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA027067905; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:25:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29330; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:23:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:17:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28803; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:17:42 -0500 Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28792; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:17:33 -0500 Received: from dach.demon.co.uk ([194.222.61.229]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa0911961; 1 Apr 97 1:47 BST Received: by localhost with Microsoft Mail id <01BC3E3E.ABF3B020@localhost>; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 01:47:35 +0100 Message-Id: <01BC3E3E.ABF3B020@localhost> From: Chris Alba To: "'ThinkPad E-mail Group'" Subject: TP 760CD with a mind of it's own... Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 01:43:16 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm sure there's a simple answer to this, but I don't know it! Every while, say once an hour, my TP760CD/W95 seems to have a fit! The HDD icon on the LCD flashes, the HDD goes berserk, then the FDD does = the same. I'ts like when I had the System Agent scheduled to defrag my HDD, but I = was scared to use the PC when that was occurring, because of documented = problems with this, so I don't have System Agent installed any more. Does anyone else get this? I would appreciate any advice/assistance with = this "feature". Regards, Chris=20 cja@usa.net =00=00