From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 1 01:57:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA033670265; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:57:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24043; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:57:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:52:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23800; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:52:28 -0500 Received: from mail.black-hole.com (mail.black-hole.com [206.145.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23792; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:52:24 -0500 Received: from maroon.edu ([206.145.13.19]) by mail.black-hole.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA170; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:05:24 -0600 Message-Id: <32F2E7F9.1F64@kmktech.com> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 00:51:37 -0600 From: chrism@kmktech.com (Chris Michalek) Reply-To: chrism@kmktech.com Organization: KMK Technology Services, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Pantazis Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 and MS Intellimouse References: <1.5.4.16.19970130222053.0b577d28@megspo.megsinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recently upgraded to office 97 on my 701. Office came with an Intellimouse but I can't seem to get it to work on my machine. The machine won't even recognize that the mouse is attached. I don't have any conflicts according to the device manager and I have disabled the internal pointstick III. I know the mouse works because I got it to work on my desktop. Any ideas why it won't work on my 701? -Chris Michalek From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 1 06:49:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA060497768; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:49:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22838; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:48:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:43:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22476; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:43:24 -0500 Received: from en.com (root@en.com [204.89.181.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22470; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:43:21 -0500 Received: from frodo (p25-ts1.en.net [207.78.11.185]) by en.com (8.8.5/8.7.4) with SMTP id GAA16000 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:40:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970201064145.0068d994@en.com> X-Sender: pech@en.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 06:43:19 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Pech Subject: In Search of Memory for IBM T.P.360 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am interested in buying a memory module 12 or 16 meg for my Thinkpad 360. If you have a module that would work and wish to part with please contact me at pech@en.com with discription and price. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 1 08:18:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA068333121; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 08:18:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28011; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 08:18:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 1 Feb 1997 08:14:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27746; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 08:14:22 -0500 Received: from SNEEZY.USU.EDU (sneezy.usu.edu [129.123.1.87]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27737; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 08:14:20 -0500 Received: from slppj.usu.edu (ppp20.nb2.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IEW3VKH76490TEWT@cc.usu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 01 Feb 1997 06:14:16 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 05:13:48 -0700 From: Greg Alvandian Subject: 701 docking To: ThinkPad Mailing list Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <32F3337B.173B@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was wondering what "docking" options are available for the 701's besides the port replicator. Does the dockI or dockII work with 701? How much do these cost new/used? Where can you get one? How well do they work with win95? -Greg Alvandian From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 1 11:46:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA086595582; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 11:46:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07668; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 11:09:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 1 Feb 1997 11:05:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07285; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 11:04:57 -0500 Received: from bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (root@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca [199.185.130.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07279; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 11:04:55 -0500 Received: from LANCEN (usr5298@[199.185.130.90]) by bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (8.7.4/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA08486; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 09:54:07 -0700 (MST) Received: by LANCEN with Microsoft Mail id <01BC101E.E6EBAF00@LANCEN>; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 09:04:16 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC101E.E6EBAF00@LANCEN> From: Lance Nichols To: "'chrism@kmktech.com'" , Dennis Pantazis Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: 701 and MS Intellimouse Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 09:04:15 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is the mouse plugged into the PS/2 port, or the serial port? I know it = sounds strange but most serial to PS/2 adapters don't work worth a damn. = I can even tell you the adapter will work fine with one machine, but not = another. If you have the unit plugged into the PS/2 port, try plugging = it into the serial port, and see what happens. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Michalek [SMTP:chrism@kmktech.com] Sent: Friday, January 31, 1997 11:52 PM To: Dennis Pantazis Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 and MS Intellimouse I recently upgraded to office 97 on my 701. Office came with an Intellimouse but I can't seem to get it to work on my machine. The machine won't even recognize that the mouse is attached. I don't have any conflicts according to the device manager and I have disabled the internal pointstick III. I know the mouse works because I got it to work on my desktop. Any ideas why it won't work on my 701? -Chris Michalek From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 1 12:28:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA090098102; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 12:28:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12726; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 12:27:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 1 Feb 1997 12:22:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12189; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 12:22:17 -0500 Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12181; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 12:22:12 -0500 Received: from dach.demon.co.uk ([194.222.61.229]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa901917; 1 Feb 97 17:13 GMT From: Chris Alba To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mmdf-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at relay-11.mail.demon.net Subject: ThinkPad Mailing Group Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 16:50:18 -0000 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <854817200.91917.0@dach.demon.co.uk> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks for adding me to your mailing list. As requested here's my configuration: - ThinkPad 760CD with all the great stuff you get with it i.e.: - 10.5" TFT Screen, 4x CD, MPEG-2, I removed OS/2 and installed Win 95, I also use: - Xircom Performance Network card PCMCIA - 28K Modem PCMCIA card My current bitches are: - can't get an external Mic to work; tried about 6 types, mono, stereo plugs etc. - can't get the serial port configured; Port and IRQ conflicts with Modem/Network card; (trying to set-up a Wacom Artpad) - can't find a local ThinkPad support/dealer/supplier in the UK I look forward to exchanging ideas and help with your group. All the best, Chris cja@usa.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 1 14:18:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA102014709; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 14:18:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18019; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 14:17:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 1 Feb 1997 14:12:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17733; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 14:12:25 -0500 Received: from julian.uwo.ca (julian.uwo.ca [129.100.2.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17718; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 14:12:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by panther.uwo.ca with SMTP id OAA28230; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 14:11:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 14:11:57 -0500 (EST) From: "J. Starkey" X-Sender: jstarkey@panther.uwo.ca To: Dennis Pantazis Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 modem tips please.... In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19970130222053.0b577d28@megspo.megsinet.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I hope that any reply to this will be posted. I, an I am sure others, would like to see this discussion. Cheers - John On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, Dennis Pantazis wrote: > greetings all- > > after a few tries to ezserve they seem to have finally fixed my 701c. > > Now, I can not find the internal 14.4 modem discussion that I saved about > tweaking the internal modem's performance. > > Could someone please post or privatley email the synopsis or the command > sting that was trown around? > > TIA > Dennis > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > chessie@megsinet.net > pantazis@uiuc.edu > > You can still see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Starkey, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada N6A 3B7 tel: (519) 661 3185 fax: (519) 661 3198 e-mail: jstarkey@julian.uwo.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 1 17:41:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA123176893; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:41:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01777; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:39:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:35:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01395; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:35:17 -0500 Received: from math.rutgers.edu (math.rutgers.edu [128.6.62.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01387; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:35:14 -0500 Received: (from moy@localhost) by math.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) id RAA03568; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:35:08 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:35:08 -0500 From: moy Message-Id: <199702012235.RAA03568@math.rutgers.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Dock I's scsi and Linux Cc: moy@math.rutgers.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recently purchased a Thinkpad Dock I via a clearance sale. It is my understanding that the built-in scsi adapter in the Dock I is a proprietary design. Does anyone know if Linux will recognize the built-in scsi of the Dock I? I.e. (1) Can one build a Linux kernel by selecting an appropriate scsi device driver during the configuration part of a kernel build? If so, what scsi driver should one use? (2) If there is no option in the standard Linux kernel source, would anyone know if someone has a patch for the Dock I's scsi adapter? Thanks in advance. - Allen Moy From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 1 19:52:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA136864725; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:52:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09520; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:51:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:47:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09187; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:47:25 -0500 Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk (mercury.ukc.ac.uk [129.12.21.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09181; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:47:22 -0500 Received: from merlin.ukc.ac.uk by mercury.ukc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:47:12 +0000 Received: from slip1d81.ukc.ac.uk by merlin.ukc.ac.uk (4.1/UKC-2.14) id AA20091; Sun, 2 Feb 97 00:47:00 GMT Message-Id: <32F3DE18.3658@ukc.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 00:21:44 +0000 From: Angus Hewlett Reply-To: afh1@ukc.ac.uk Organization: Amulet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: subscription request References: <199702012323.SAA05054@CS.UTK.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, > how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), > and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST > address -- don't just reply to this message!) Hi, my name is Angus Hewlett, and I'm a student at the University of Kent, in Canterbury, England. I bought my Thinkpad second-hand about a month ago. It's a 755C with the TFT screen, DX2-50 processor (which is a bit of a mystery), 540MB of disk (which is not enough), and 20MB of RAM (which is a godsend). I'm running Win95 and Linux on there - which is why the HDD is so tight. I don't have any accessories at the moment except the case - but I'm looking at a Dock II and maybe a BNC ethernet PCMCIA card. I've a few unanswered questions about the machine - but I'll go and read the FAQ and the archive first! Well, maybe not the ENTIRE archive... thank god for search tools! Angus - my other PC's a Cyrix :-) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- - When all else fails, we can whip the horses' eyes, - - And make them sleep, - - And cry. -The Soft Parade - -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 1 23:05:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA156526349; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:05:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21346; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:05:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:00:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20973; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:00:53 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20965; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:00:49 -0500 Received: from user-37kb949.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb949.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.137]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA28394; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:00:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199702020400.XAA28394@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "moy" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Cc: "moy@math.rutgers.edu" Date: Sat, 01 Feb 97 23:00:46 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dock I's scsi and Linux Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The SCSI adapter is maid by Future Domain, don't remember the model. As for Linux, I know how to spell the word. On Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:35:08 -0500, moy wrote: > >I recently purchased a Thinkpad Dock I via a clearance sale. > >It is my understanding that the built-in scsi adapter in the >Dock I is a proprietary design. > >Does anyone know if Linux will recognize the built-in scsi of the >Dock I? I.e. > (1) Can one build a Linux kernel by selecting an appropriate > scsi device driver during the configuration part of a > kernel build? If so, what scsi driver should one use? > (2) If there is no option in the standard Linux kernel source, > would anyone know if someone has a patch for the Dock I's > scsi adapter? > >Thanks in advance. > >- Allen Moy > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 1 23:44:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA160268656; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:44:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24228; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:43:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:39:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23852; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:39:33 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23839; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:39:17 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA03693; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:22:33 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199702020422.XAA03693@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Dock I's scsi and Linux To: moy@math.rutgers.edu (moy) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:22:33 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, moy@math.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199702012235.RAA03568@math.rutgers.edu> from "moy" at Feb 1, 97 05:35:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > It is my understanding that the built-in scsi adapter in the > Dock I is a proprietary design. It uses the 8-bit Future Domain TMC-950 chip. > Does anyone know if Linux will recognize the built-in scsi of the > Dock I? I.e. > (1) Can one build a Linux kernel by selecting an appropriate > scsi device driver during the configuration part of a > kernel build? If so, what scsi driver should one use? Yes, although with possible caveats -- see below. Here's a summary of my experience with the Dock I SCSI and older versions (1.2.x and 1.3.x) of Linux that I posted to the list in June 1996. I don't know how much of this still applies to more recent 2.0.x kernels. ================================================== First of all, I did my initial Linux install (a 1.2.13 kernel from a Slackware-based distribution) from a borrowed Adaptec 1542CF installed in the Dock I's slot (at the time, I didn't have the appropriate external cable for the Dock I's SCSI). Eventually I got a cable, and was able to get the dock's internal SCSI adapter recognized, using the bootstring of the form "tmc8xx=," However, the adapter returned junk from the device identification bus probe at bootup, and none of the attached devices worked. After hacking around, I found that removing the compile-time "ARBITRATION" option from the tmc8xx driver allowed things to mostly work OK, and I was able to access an attached external 3x CD-ROM. So, I attached an an additional external SCSI hard drive as well, and built a filesystem, etc. However, that didn't work so well -- in particular, I'd observe bus hangs and file corruption on the SCSI hard disk when writing large files (16mb or so). Next, I investigated some of the development kernels. I noticed the changes summary for 1.3.50 mentioned some fixes for the seagate driver. (The Seagate ST0x and Future Domain TMC-950-based boards, which is what's in the Dock I, are almost identical, and are both implemented in the kernel source module "drivers/scsi/seagate.c".) So, I repeated my experiments with 1.3.85. I still had to remove the "ARBITRATION" option, but I didn't experience any bus hangs or file corruption, after working the SCSI devices fairly hard. I was also successful in attaching and using an external DAT drive (I didn't try that with 1.2.13 at all). Final summary: - I needed to remove the "ARBITRATION" option in all cases. - the driver in 1.2.13 is flakey under load, but seems solid under 1.3.85 (I picked 1.3.85 more-or-less at random, by the way; my guess is that it's solid in anything above 1.3.50). - performance is fairly poor; the hardware really isn't very capable. - you're very unlikely to be able to do an installation from the Dock 1 SCSI. Hope this helps somebody. BTW, all this was with a ThinkPad 360Cs with 20 megs of memory. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 1 23:54:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA161429265; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:54:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25124; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:54:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:50:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24764; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:49:58 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24744; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:49:49 -0500 From: Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id EAA202522 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 04:49:44 GMT Received: from slip129-37-229-188.fl.us.ibm.net(129.37.229.188) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaRskDFW; Sun Feb 2 04:49:22 1997 Received: by slip129-37-229-188 (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id XAA000.34; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:49:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199702020449.XAA000.34@slip129-37-229-188> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 01 Feb 97 23:21:11 +0000 To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: dskcpa@ibm.net Subject: Intro @ a couple questions X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <30_75_4_854857271> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello all: I recently purchased a TP 365XD, 40 meg ram, 810 meg. HDD, 100 mhz. pentium. I set up two primary partitions using boot manager - 100 meg Win95, 276 meg Warp4 (my primary operating system), 400 meg logical drive. I added an external numeric keypad and mini-mouse, as well as external speakers. I'm a CPA and am using this as a desktop substitute at my house. WOW - so far I'm really impressed - this thing rivals my office machine (GW P5-100/64mg ram) in performance and functionality. As to my questions: I purchased the machine at office depot - they have a 2 year warranty extension (Plus 1 Product Protection) available for 139.95. IBM's warranty extension after my first year is $300 per year. The Plus 1 claims to provide support for everything the manufacturer does after the first year. Does anyone have any experience/input with the Plus 1 plan? My second question concerns the Win95 - I backed up the system using the disk director facility, repartitioned the drive, loaded DOS 6.22 and Warp4 on the 276 meg primary partition. When I went to reinstall Win95 on the 100 meg partition I originally got to disk 2 wherein the installation was unable to read certain files. I was able to get a replacement disk 2. Next installation bogged down at disk 3 - Again, I was able to obtain a replacement disk. Third try - setup is unable to read certain files on disk 14 - this time IBM refuses to replace the disk - something about their pre- load licensing - my only option is to return the system to them and have them setup the system as it was when I purchased it. Of course this is impossible as I have spent considerable time and effort configuring and tweaking this thing to get to where I am. Anyone have any ideas how to get Win95 setup on this machine? I'd buy the upgrade (I have several Win 3.1/11 licenses around somewhere) but I don't know that I have the room to install DOS/Win 3.11 and then Win95 in 100 megs. The fullpack seems rather pricey - I run Warp4 for work - I'd just like to check out Win95, since I'm licensed for it, and see how the other 99.99998% of the computing world lives . Thanks for any input! David Kuharcik From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 2 00:08:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA162930111; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:08:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26558; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:07:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:02:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25951; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:02:43 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25943; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:02:39 -0500 Received: from user-37kb97e.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb97e.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.238]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA55988; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:02:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199702020502.AAA55988@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "slppj@cc.usu.edu" , "ThinkPad Mailing list" Date: Sat, 01 Feb 97 23:52:02 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 docking Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There is an adapter card that you can get for the dock2 to work with the TP. Dock one w/n work. On Sat, 01 Feb 1997 05:13:48 -0700, Greg Alvandian wrote: >I was wondering what "docking" options are available for the 701's >besides the port replicator. Does the dockI or dockII work with 701? >How much do these cost new/used? Where can you get one? How well do >they work with win95? >-Greg Alvandian > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 2 00:08:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA162980113; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:08:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26562; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:07:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:02:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25980; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:02:50 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25966; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:02:47 -0500 Received: from user-37kb97e.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb97e.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.238]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA26824; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:02:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199702020502.AAA26824@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "chrism@kmktech.com" , "Dennis Pantazis" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 01 Feb 97 23:54:29 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 and MS Intellimouse Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I beleve that the ser port is disable or set to com3 on the 701. You would need to disable the IR & make the ser port com1. The best thing to do would be to get a ps/2 version of the mouse. On Sat, 01 Feb 1997 00:51:37 -0600, Chris Michalek wrote: >I recently upgraded to office 97 on my 701. Office came with an >Intellimouse but I can't seem to get it to work on my machine. The >machine won't even recognize that the mouse is attached. I don't have >any conflicts according to the device manager and I have disabled the >internal pointstick III. I know the mouse works because I got it to >work on my desktop. Any ideas why it won't work on my 701? > >-Chris Michalek jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 2 00:49:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA166752549; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:49:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27819; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:15:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:09:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26801; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:09:15 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26755; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:08:54 -0500 Received: from user-37kb97e.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb97e.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.238]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA88580; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:07:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199702020507.AAA88580@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "dskcpa@ibm.net" , "Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 02 Feb 97 00:07:44 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Intro @ a couple questions Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The best way is to format /s the drive with dos & install the cd-rom drivers if nessary. Run the win95 install & when it asks for the product to upgrade insert the first os/2 win311 or whatever disk & it will install fine. On Sat, 01 Feb 97 23:21:11 +0000, dskcpa@ibm.net wrote: >Hello all: > >I recently purchased a TP 365XD, 40 meg ram, 810 meg. HDD, 100 mhz. >pentium. I set up two primary partitions using boot manager - 100 >meg Win95, 276 meg Warp4 (my primary operating system), 400 meg >logical drive. I added an external numeric keypad and mini-mouse, >as well as external speakers. I'm a CPA and am using this as a >desktop substitute at my house. > >WOW - so far I'm really impressed - this thing rivals my office >machine (GW P5-100/64mg ram) in performance and functionality. >As to my questions: > >I purchased the machine at office depot - they have a 2 year >warranty extension (Plus 1 Product Protection) available for >139.95. IBM's warranty extension after my first year is $300 >per year. The Plus 1 claims to provide support for everything >the manufacturer does after the first year. Does anyone have >any experience/input with the Plus 1 plan? > >My second question concerns the Win95 - I backed up the system >using the disk director facility, repartitioned the drive, loaded >DOS 6.22 and Warp4 on the 276 meg primary partition. When I went >to reinstall Win95 on the 100 meg partition I originally got to >disk 2 wherein the installation was unable to read certain files. >I was able to get a replacement disk 2. Next installation bogged >down at disk 3 - Again, I was able to obtain a replacement disk. >Third try - setup is unable to read certain files on disk 14 - this >time IBM refuses to replace the disk - something about their pre- >load licensing - my only option is to return the system to them >and have them setup the system as it was when I purchased it. >Of course this is impossible as I have spent considerable time >and effort configuring and tweaking this thing to get to where >I am. > >Anyone have any ideas how to get Win95 setup on this machine? I'd >buy the upgrade (I have several Win 3.1/11 licenses around somewhere) >but I don't know that I have the room to install DOS/Win 3.11 and then >Win95 in 100 megs. The fullpack seems rather pricey - I run Warp4 for >work - I'd just like to check out Win95, since I'm licensed for it, >and see how the other 99.99998% of the computing world lives . > >Thanks for any input! > >David Kuharcik > > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 2 07:06:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA201975197; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 07:06:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26458; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 07:05:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:56:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25982; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:56:28 -0500 Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk (mercury.ukc.ac.uk [129.12.21.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25976; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:56:24 -0500 Received: from merlin.ukc.ac.uk by mercury.ukc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sun, 2 Feb 1997 11:56:17 +0000 Received: from slip1d81.ukc.ac.uk by merlin.ukc.ac.uk (4.1/UKC-2.14) id AA01078; Sun, 2 Feb 97 11:56:14 GMT Message-Id: <32F47AFE.3D80@ukc.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 11:31:10 +0000 From: Angus Hewlett Reply-To: afh1@ukc.ac.uk Organization: Amulet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Upgrading TP755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I recently bought a 755c, the DX2-50 model, and what I was wondering is, has anyone tried fitting an AMD 5x86 chip in this or any other Thinkpad. I know it -should- work, at 100MHz, as the existing chip is a 3.3v 486SL chip with a 25MHz external bus. However, I'd like to hear from anyone who has tried this (or any other overdrive-type chip) before I shell out a fortune on having it fitted. Also - what is the maximum capacity internal hard-disk on the TP755? I'm currently using a 540MB but it's a bit restrictive for running Win95 -and- Linux. Finally - roughly how much should I expect to pay for a secondhand Dock II? I've been offered one but I don't know if the price is any good. Thanks in advance, Angus Hewlett -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- - When all else fails, we can whip the horses' eyes, - - And make them sleep, - - And cry. -The Soft Parade - -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 2 09:44:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA215524639; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 09:43:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04674; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 09:43:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Feb 1997 09:37:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04236; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 09:37:27 -0500 Received: from mail.black-hole.com (mail.black-hole.com [206.145.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04230; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 09:37:23 -0500 Received: from maroon.edu ([206.145.13.18]) by mail.black-hole.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA158; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 08:51:12 -0600 Message-Id: <32F4A6A1.4DC2@kmktech.com> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 08:37:21 -0600 From: chrism@kmktech.com (Chris Michalek) Reply-To: chrism@kmktech.com Organization: KMK Technology Services, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: 701 and MS Intellimouse References: <199702020502.AAA26824@mule0.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Jeffrey S. Schwartz wrote: I should have noted the mouse is the ps/2 version. I have tried it through the mouse port and have tried using the serial adapter. I now think the mouse itself is bad. Sometimes it works on the 701 but it is recognized as a two button mouse rather than the three button mouse it is. It's getting returned tomorrow... Thanks -Chris Michalek > I beleve that the ser port is disable or set to com3 on the 701. You > would need to disable the IR & make the ser port com1. The best thing > to do would be to get a ps/2 version of the mouse. > > On Sat, 01 Feb 1997 00:51:37 -0600, Chris Michalek wrote: > > >I recently upgraded to office 97 on my 701. Office came with an > >Intellimouse but I can't seem to get it to work on my machine. The > >machine won't even recognize that the mouse is attached. I don't have > >any conflicts according to the device manager and I have disabled the > >internal pointstick III. I know the mouse works because I got it to > >work on my desktop. Any ideas why it won't work on my 701? > > > >-Chris Michalek > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 2 15:33:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA276255631; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:33:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24986; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:33:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:28:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24545; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:28:15 -0500 Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24538; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:28:09 -0500 Received: from homer07.u.washington.edu (homer07.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.11]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA28052 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:23:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (mjk@localhost) by homer07.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA84982 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:28:06 -0800 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:28:06 -0800 (PST) From: Myoung-Jun Kim To: thinkpad Subject: 701C suspend/resume Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi everybody. I have got my 701C few weeks ago. It's a used one, and I am still struggling to check the machine. The most strange thining is that I never suceeded suspend/resume. I just got repaired my machine using IBM EzServe. I think it's nice. They replaced several parts to fix small hardware problems. And, it was done very quickly. However, they think the suspend problem is caused from software, while I guess it is a hardware problem. I have the most recent BIOS, so don't recommed me to upgrade BIOS. I have 3 OS's. (I'm going to remove the preinstalled Window 95). Windows 95: Crashes after suspend/resume. Sometimes, it runs for several minutes. But, eventualy it dies by a system integrity problem. An IBM technical assistant said me to enable "enforce APM 1.0" in the device manager. I did that, but nothing is changed. Windows NT 4.0: Crashes after suspend/resume. It just shows a kernel panic. The hibernation is working well for both of Win95 & NT 4.0. Linux: I heard the suspend works well even in Linux. So, I tried it. The result is quite strange. I won't die. I mean Linux refuses to be suspended. When I press Fn+F4, the screen blinks once and the system keeps running. It refuses also the hibernation. I can see the clock icon (meaning a wait) by pressing Fn+F12, but it resumes to Linux immediatly. I tried it after removing all PCMCIA cards & the card managent program, but it didn't solve the problme. I think it should be a hardware problem, but I want to hear from other 701C users before sending it again to EzServe. Any help appreciated. Thanks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 2 16:12:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA282037965; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:12:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29072; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:12:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:07:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28199; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:07:41 -0500 Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28188; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:07:31 -0500 Received: from ppp02.Triumf.CA (ppp09.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Sun, 02 Feb 1997 13:05:29 PST Received: by ppp02.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC1108.0982AA20@ppp02.Triumf.CA>; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:53:07 -0800 Message-Id: <01BC1108.0982AA20@ppp02.Triumf.CA> From: peter machule To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Upgrading TP755 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:48:55 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ---------- From: Angus Hewlett[SMTP:afh1@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Sunday, February 02, 1997 3:31 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Upgrading TP755 Hi, I recently bought a 755c, the DX2-50 model, and what I was wondering is, has anyone tried fitting an AMD 5x86 chip in this or any other Thinkpad. I know it -should- work, at 100MHz, as the existing chip is a 3.3v 486SL chip with a 25MHz external bus. However, I'd like to hear from anyone who has tried this (or any other overdrive-type chip) before I shell out a fortune on having it fitted. I believe this one had an official upgrade path in form of a small pc board with a 75Mhz DX-4 on it. Your best bet is therefore to find some kind soul who has done this and beg the the old 50Mhz version of him/her. Then buy the $45 AMD and unsolder the old............ OR talk to the 2 or 3 laptop upgrade companies .....I believe that two of them even lurk around here. pepsales?? OR talk to IBM's factory oulet they sometimes have parts. The official prices for the 50 and 75Mhz boards are amusing Note your cost could very low if you can find an old board. Also - what is the maximum capacity internal hard-disk on the TP755? I'm currently using a 540MB but it's a bit restrictive for running Win95 -and- Linux. Finally - roughly how much should I expect to pay for a secondhand Dock II? I've been offered one but I don't know if the price is any good. Contact these people : > Pete Breen > Netstream International are also on the web ??? > (972) 664-0383 > (972) 664-0384 (Fax) and: http://www.indexcomputer.com ...peter... Thanks in advance, Angus Hewlett -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- - When all else fails, we can whip the horses' eyes, - - And make them sleep, - - And cry. -The Soft Parade - -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 2 17:11:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA288621475; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:11:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06825; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:10:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:06:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06120; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:06:02 -0500 Received: from enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06065; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:05:47 -0500 Received: (qmail 21925 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1997 22:04:50 -0000 Received: from belial-53.d.enteract.com (207.112.154.62) by babel.enteract.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1997 22:04:50 -0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 modem tips please.... Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 22:04:00 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32f70d43.3474438@smtp.enteract.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hmmm, no repsonses yet. Usually, these modem threads start with me claiming how much success I've had with the modem simply using: at&f1&c1&k3 by going into the registry and editing the default settings for the modem. (I also change the hangup string to a simple ATH). Then other = people come on and say stuff like "Big deal, that would work on any modem" or "That's redundant, 'cause the f1 sets to factory default and the c1&k3 alter the compression settings to the same thing as the defaults, so = at&f1 would be just as good..." Then would come the serious string tweakers, talking about line noise, compression schemes, start and stop bits, UART chips, S-registers and so on, and before long folks are delving into the fact that modem is a contraction of MODblahblah EMublah, and bandwidth, and T1s and T3s, and fiber optic technology, and I'd sort of tune the thread out until it died from there. But I still use the above string! epbrown On Fri, 31 Jan 1997 20:53:40 -0800 (PST), you wrote: =BBOn Fri, 31 Jan 1997, Dennis Pantazis wrote: =BB =BB> Now, I can not find the internal 14.4 modem discussion that I saved = about =BB> tweaking the internal modem's performance.=20 =BB>=20 =BB> Could someone please post or privatley email the synopsis or the = command =BB> sting that was trown around? =BB =BBOthers of us have found the 701 modem flaky. I'd appreciate tips =BBgoing to the list.=20 =BB =BB =BB epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 2 17:28:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA291152538; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:28:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09039; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:28:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:24:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08385; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:24:12 -0500 Received: from cyprus.it.earthlink.net (cyprus-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.65]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08379; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:24:09 -0500 Received: from Cust92.Max5.New-York.NY.MS.UU.NET (Cust92.Max5.New-York.NY.MS.UU.NET [153.35.2.92]) by cyprus.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA11046 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 14:23:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by Cust92.Max5.New-York.NY.MS.UU.NET with Microsoft Mail id <01BC112C.DFCE6550@Cust92.Max5.New-York.NY.MS.UU.NET>; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:16:49 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC112C.DFCE6550@Cust92.Max5.New-York.NY.MS.UU.NET> From: Dan Koeppel To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Sorry... Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:13:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ...I need to know how to unsubscribe to this list. Sorry to post this to the whole group, but... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 2 17:44:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA293123496; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:44:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10776; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:44:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:39:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10211; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:39:34 -0500 Received: from enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10178; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:39:25 -0500 Received: (qmail 22086 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1997 22:39:20 -0000 Received: from belial-53.d.enteract.com (207.112.154.62) by babel.enteract.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1997 22:39:20 -0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Sorry... Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 22:38:30 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32fa1645.5780010@smtp.enteract.com> References: <01BC112C.DFCE6550@Cust92.Max5.New-York.NY.MS.UU.NET> In-Reply-To: <01BC112C.DFCE6550@Cust92.Max5.New-York.NY.MS.UU.NET> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:13:36 -0500, you wrote: =BB...I need to know how to unsubscribe to this list. Sorry to post this = to the whole group, but... A frequently asked question, and no problem: send an email message to thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. I'll be using this in a week or so, when I unload my 701 and become Thinkpad-less. (Some of you know I've gone to the Dark Side of mobile computing, and now have a Kiwi OpenNote 680T - see www.enteract.com/~epbrown/kiwi680.html). It's been great, though, = learning and wrangling with you folks. epbrown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 00:14:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA038606877; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:14:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12103; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:14:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:07:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11077; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:07:41 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11066; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:07:35 -0500 Received: from 701c (liv-40.rust.net [206.42.195.140]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.4/8.8.0) with SMTP id AAA21198 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:06:44 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970202100127.006ff6c0@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 8 (32) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 10:01:27 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: 701 modem tips please.... In-Reply-To: References: <1.5.4.16.19970130222053.0b577d28@megspo.megsinet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:53 PM 1/31/97 -0800, you wrote: >On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, Dennis Pantazis wrote: > >> Now, I can not find the internal 14.4 modem discussion that I saved about >> tweaking the internal modem's performance. >> >> Could someone please post or privatley email the synopsis or the command >> sting that was trown around? > >Others of us have found the 701 modem flaky. I'd appreciate tips >going to the list. > > 2 machines that I have played with seem to need 20 mins of warm up time before the modem stops dropping connections. If you find this an annoyance install a PC card modem replacement. B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 00:14:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA038646878; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:14:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12105; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:14:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:07:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11110; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:07:50 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11094; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:07:43 -0500 Received: from 701c (liv-40.rust.net [206.42.195.140]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.4/8.8.0) with SMTP id AAA21203; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:06:47 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970203000735.0070b3d4@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 8 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 00:07:35 -0500 To: Myoung-Jun Kim , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: 701C suspend/resume In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm running Win 95 on a 701C without problems. The suspend and hibernate work fine too. I only use the full APM 1.1 with nothing checked except Enable power management. It sounds like you have a hardware problem. At 12:28 PM 2/2/97 -0800, you wrote: >Hi everybody. > >I have got my 701C few weeks ago. It's a used one, and I am still >struggling to check the machine. The most strange thining is that I never >suceeded suspend/resume. I just got repaired my machine using IBM >EzServe. I think it's nice. They replaced several parts to fix small >hardware problems. And, it was done very quickly. > >However, they think the suspend problem is caused from software, while I >guess it is a hardware problem. I have the most recent BIOS, so don't >recommed me to upgrade BIOS. I have 3 OS's. (I'm going to remove the >preinstalled Window 95). > >Windows 95: Crashes after suspend/resume. Sometimes, it runs for several >minutes. But, eventualy it dies by a system integrity problem. An IBM >technical assistant said me to enable "enforce APM 1.0" in the device >manager. I did that, but nothing is changed. > >Windows NT 4.0: Crashes after suspend/resume. It just shows a kernel >panic. > >The hibernation is working well for both of Win95 & NT 4.0. > >Linux: I heard the suspend works well even in Linux. So, I tried it. The >result is quite strange. I won't die. I mean Linux refuses to be >suspended. When I press Fn+F4, the screen blinks once and the system >keeps running. It refuses also the hibernation. I can see the clock icon >(meaning a wait) by pressing Fn+F12, but it resumes to Linux immediatly. >I tried it after removing all PCMCIA cards & the card managent program, >but it didn't solve the problme. > >I think it should be a hardware problem, but I want to hear from other >701C users before sending it again to EzServe. Any help appreciated. > >Thanks > > B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 00:57:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044119423; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:57:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16106; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:56:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:52:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15653; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:52:24 -0500 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15645; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:52:21 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx06-09.teleport.com [206.163.123.186]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25040 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 21:52:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 21:52:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702030552.VAA25040@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: 701 modem tips please.... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have had my 701C for just over a year and have had no problems with mine and no warm up need. I am currently using a IBM 28.8 pc card most of the time but again, the internal had no problems. I am interested but not technically inclined as are many in the group in terms of programing modifications. If there is a straight forward tune up I too would be interested. Bryan At 10:01 AM 2/2/97 -0500, you wrote: >At 08:53 PM 1/31/97 -0800, you wrote: >>On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, Dennis Pantazis wrote: >> >>> Now, I can not find the internal 14.4 modem discussion that I saved about >>> tweaking the internal modem's performance. >>> >>> Could someone please post or privatley email the synopsis or the command >>> sting that was trown around? >> >>Others of us have found the 701 modem flaky. I'd appreciate tips >>going to the list. >> >> >2 machines that I have played with seem to need 20 mins of warm up time >before the modem stops dropping connections. If you find this an annoyance >install a PC card modem replacement. >B/B >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb > "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 02:32:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA058005160; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:32:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22015; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:32:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:29:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21668; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:29:35 -0500 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21662; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:29:32 -0500 Received: from marie-kiyoi (ppp-206-170-4-28.wnck11.pacbell.net [206.170.4.28]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA29364 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 23:29:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <32F59361.3C2A@pacbell.net> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 23:27:29 -0800 From: Marie & Terry Kiyoi X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PBWE (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: PCMICA soundcard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, can anyone recomend a decent PCMICA soundcard for my 755cx? It needs not be any spectacular 3-d, wonder, just enough so i can get sound effects and a decent quality cd sound, and not too expensive would'nt hurt either. thanx jeff blitzin@pacbell.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 08:18:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA096255899; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:18:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25189; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:17:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:09:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24282; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:09:56 -0500 Received: from patty.loop.net (patty.loop.net [207.211.60.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24274; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:09:51 -0500 Received: from p19.hwts11.loop.net (p19.hwts11.loop.net [207.211.62.124]) by patty.loop.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA02973 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:08:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199702031308.FAA02973@patty.loop.net> X-Sender: howie@pop.loop.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 05:12:07 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Howard Subject: Re: 701C suspend/resume Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Here's 1 of my 3 cents worth: After much tweaking, I have found the following on my 701c running Win 3.11 with 24 megs ram: Downloading partially or heavily compressed files, the modem runs at the advertised 14.4 or so. However, if trying to download a large, easily compressed text file, the effective throughput can exceed 35kbs, sometimes reaching 40kbs! At times like these, I would hear a "click" - the sound of the line disconnecting. It would seem that at some point, the data just wasn't transferring fast enough to the processor (here my expertise runs out) and the line disconnects. The solution has been adding to the initialization code the string &q5. The modem default is &q6. By adding my string, the error protected mode changes from LAPM-V.42 to MNP and the compression from V.42bis to MNP5. Since making this change, I have not been disconnected during long downloads. The data transfer rate has not really been negatively affected, since those compressed (.zip, .gif, .jpg etc.) files still load as fast as they can at 14.4-16.0 kbs and the 'text'-type files load at a high limit of about 30kbs. For those interested, my dialup string to my service provider is: at&f&c1l2s0=0&b1&k3w1s11=40&d2s95=1&q5 (the s11=40 allows for really zippy dialing by reducing the time between dtmf tones, but you guys probably knew that.) Lastly, make sure the com port (usually com1) is set for Hardware Flow Control. Also, the baud rate here refers to the rate the com port unloads its data to the processor, so it *must* be higher than 14.4 - I use 38400 as the setting. (hmmm, maybe if I raise it even higher, I wouldn't need the &q5 string.... any experts reading this?) Hope this helps Howard Simson P.O. Box 2074 Toluca Lake, CA 91610 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 08:18:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA096265900; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:18:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25210; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:18:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:13:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24649; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:13:42 -0500 Received: from patty.loop.net (patty.loop.net [207.211.60.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24639; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:13:37 -0500 Received: from p19.hwts11.loop.net (p19.hwts11.loop.net [207.211.62.124]) by patty.loop.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA03142 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:12:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199702031312.FAA03142@patty.loop.net> X-Sender: howie@pop.loop.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 05:15:54 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Howard Subject: Re: 701 modem tips please.... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Oops, I sent this off the first time with the wrong subject line - apologies to all. Here's 1 of my 3 cents worth: After much tweaking, I have found the following on my 701c running Win 3.11 with 24 megs ram: Downloading partially or heavily compressed files, the modem runs at the advertised 14.4 or so. However, if trying to download a large, easily compressed text file, the effective throughput can exceed 35kbs, sometimes reaching 40kbs! At times like these, I would hear a "click" - the sound of the line disconnecting. It would seem that at some point, the data just wasn't transferring fast enough to the processor (here my expertise runs out) and the line disconnects. The solution has been adding to the initialization code the string &q5. The modem default is &q6. By adding my string, the error protected mode changes from LAPM-V.42 to MNP and the compression from V.42bis to MNP5. Since making this change, I have not been disconnected during long downloads. The data transfer rate has not really been negatively affected, since those compressed (.zip, .gif, .jpg etc.) files still load as fast as they can at 14.4-16.0 kbs and the 'text'-type files load at a high limit of about 30kbs. For those interested, my dialup string to my service provider is: at&f&c1l2s0=0&b1&k3w1s11=40&d2s95=1&q5 (the s11=40 allows for really zippy dialing by reducing the time between dtmf tones, but you guys probably knew that.) Lastly, make sure the com port (usually com1) is set for Hardware Flow Control. Also, the baud rate here refers to the rate the com port unloads its data to the processor, so it *must* be higher than 14.4 - I use 38400 as the setting. (hmmm, maybe if I raise it even higher, I wouldn't need the &q5 string.... any experts reading this?) Hope this helps Howard Simson P.O. Box 2074 Toluca Lake, CA 91610 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 08:24:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA096996279; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:24:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26038; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:24:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:19:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25439; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:19:45 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25366; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:19:28 -0500 Received: from luzern_ppp44.tic.ch (luzern_ppp44.tic.ch [193.193.148.46]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08188; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:22:40 +0100 (MET) Received: by luzern_ppp44.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BC11DD.08E37420@luzern_ppp44.tic.ch>; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:17:49 -0000 Message-Id: <01BC11DD.08E37420@luzern_ppp44.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Cc: "'bednar@silly.tamu.edu'" , "'ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu'" Subject: Running Linux using an external Jaz drive and floppy Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:40:53 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, Here's some general info for those of you who may be interested. It's the method I used to get Linux to run on my Thinkpad 701CS without using any HD space - i.e. a partial boot from floppy to the point that my PCMCIA SCSI card is recognised (New Media Bus Toaster). It is a somewhat unsatisfactory solution, since at the times that the Jaz is not mounted, the system is trying to do things to the 'Wrong' root partition (i.e. a dummy root partition during startup, and once the PCMCIA drivers get unloaded, well, erm, there is no root partition). Still, it works. Also note that I read in a message to a Linux mailing list that the PCMCIA drivers in a future release will be such that they can be compiled into the kernel. Note that this method allows you to create a very portable Linux boot disk: I've tried it in another notebook and it worked first time (i.e. the notebook had the Jaz drive connected with the same Linux medium in) cheers, Andrew. SETTING UP LINUX TO BOOT FROM SCSI DISK ATTACHED VIA PCMCIA (c) Andrew Richards, January 1997 (andrew@tic.ch). Introduction I have a laptop that is very tight on space on the hard disk, so I decided to install Linux on my Jaz drive, attached via a PCMCIA SCSI card (New Media Bus Toaster). The problem with Linux and PCMCIA in this scenario is that PCMCIA support normally only gets loaded _after_ the root filesystem has been mounted. PCMCIA support cannot be compiled into the kernel. By using LILO (or LOADLIN with a similar method) it is possible to setup a boot floppy or a program you can fire from DOS, which contains the kernel and a skeleton root filesystem with enough information and drivers to load the PCMCIA drivers for the SCSI card. Once these drivers are loaded it is possible to mount the real root filesystem. The kernel offers a facility called initrd which makes this chain of events possible. Once the real root filesystem is loaded, the skeleton root filesystem is moved to a subdirectory where it is still mounted. This can then be unmounted if desired. Here are some notes on what I did to get this working on _my_ setup - yours could well be different, so take care to adjust e.g. device names to match your system when reading this document. I assume technical competence and some willpower - this procedure isn't easy! I hope this document helps someone out there... Distributing this document Feel free to distribute this document; on the same terms as the GNU license. Starting point You need to run a basic Linux somehow to generate the boot floppy or hard-disk setup. Talk nicely to a friend or do as I did: The distribution of Linux that I'm using makes it possible to run Linux from the CD-ROM - which contains a 'Live filesystem', with the exception of about 30Mbyte of files which have to be on a read/writeable device, i.e. a directory on the hard disk. Note that this setup is unsatisfactory for normal Linux use because it is botched together, slow (because of the CD-ROM) and inflexible if I want to add bits to it. But to get our boot floppy it's great. Also note that you need a reasonably recent version of Linux - I guess anything from 1996 onwards. Anything with a version 2.x kernel is fine. The Jaz drive I used this for three things when setting up the root floppy - a place to store my skeleton root filesystem, a place to compile a kernel for my floppy, and for the real root filesystem. I did this by having three partitions of the Jaz disk - generated by using cfdisk. The skeleton root filesystem must fit into a partition of 5 Megabytes - any bigger and there's no chance it'll compress onto a single floppy disk. The Kernel I decided to build my own kernel to minimise space. This is actually not strictly necessary - you could easily use one of the precompiled kernels from the distribution. To do this I copied /usr/src/linux and subdirectories to a writeable device (in fact a small partition on the Jaz drive), then executed these commands from the ....src/linux directory, make menuconfig make dep make clean make zImage This creates (after a long compilation - about an hour for me) the file zImage in ....src/linux/arch/i386/boot. Make sure that you include RAM disk support and SCSI support (but no specific low-level SCSI drivers are required - the PCMCIA module doesn't need these). You now have a compressed kernel image that will be used later... The skeleton root filesystem I setup a 5Mbyte partition on the Jaz drive, i.e /dev/sda2 (/dev/sda1 is where the real Linux root filesystem is, /dev/sda3 is the partition I used to generate the kernel). Before creating a filesystem on it, 'Zero' it so that it compresses well: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda2 bs=1k count=5120 then create a filesystem on it, mke2fs -b 1024 -m 0 /dev/sda2 5120 mount it, mount /dev/sda2 /mnt and put the necessary files in it (see my directory structure below - the options d, p, and R for the cp command are very useful for this step). You will need to create a special file /linuxrc which is run for the skeleton root filesystem. Mine looks like this, #!/bin/bash /etc/rd.d/pcmcia start fsck /dev/sda1 - alternatively, make /linuxrc a symbolic link to a shell, so that you can then type in commands manually, cd /mnt ln -s bin/bash linuxrc Note that if you choose this second option, when you boot your system with the new boot floppy, you will have a shell prompt. Typically type the comands above (pcmcia start, fsck) before typing 'exit' - once the shell terminates (i.e. the program linuxrc), the real root filesystem is mounted. Now unmount the filesystem, umount /mnt Compress it to a file, dd if=/dev/sda2 bs=1k count=5120 | gzip -9 > /skeleton.gz This file will be used later... The floppy Take an old unwanted floppy that's been formatted at least once in it's lifetime (i.e. under DOS). Create a filesystem on it, mke2fs /dev/fd0 -m 0 mount it, mount /dev/fd0 /mnt and remove the lost+found directory for extra space, rm -r /mnt/lost+found Copy the 'Loader' to the floppy (see LILO documentation), cp /boot/boot.b /mnt Copy the kernel image that you wish to use to the floppy, cp ....zImage /mnt Copy the compressed skeleton root filesystem to the floppy, cp /skeleton.gz /mnt Note that if skeleton.gz doesn't fit on this floppy, that's not a problem - see the next section - but before you do that, tell LILO to put the finishing touches to the disk: Create a file /etc/lilo.conf with contents e.g., boot = /dev/fd0 compact install=/mnt/boot.b map=/mnt/map image=/mnt/zImage label=linux root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/mnt/skeleton.gz - in this example the real root filesystem is on /dev/sda1. If you had to put skeleton.gz on a separate disk, add the indented line (under image...), append="prompt_ramdisk=1" Run LILO to process the lilo.conf file, updating your floppy, lilo tidy up by unmounting the floppy umount /mnt - you've now created your boot floppy, but don't reboot just yet.... Creating a separate root floppy if necessary (see previous section) Again using an old unwanted formatted floppy, dd if=/skeleton.gz of=/dev/fd0 The real root filesystem Set this up from the Linux install disks if you haven't already, and add the empty directory /initrd to it. The skeleton filesystem will get moved to this directory when the real root filesystem gets mounted. Does it work? Cross your fingers. Now reboot the system with your boot floppy in the drive. Using LOADLIN instead of a boot floppy Using LOADLIN it's possible to fire Linux from DOS using files found on the hard disk (formatted for DOS). It needs most of the steps above - in particular a kernel and a compressed skeleton root filesystem. Then proceed as follows: *THIS SECTION STILL TO BE WRITTEN* Still to be added to this document Altering the startup and shutdown files to not dismount the root filesystem until the latest possible moment, and not to unload PCMCIA support while the root filesystem needs to be accessed (my current thoughts are to put a couple of syncs in the /etc/pcmcia/scsi file). Sources I used lots of Linux documents to sort this out. Personal contributions from Dave Ahn, Chris Bednar and Huber Mantel and the documents, Kernel HOWTO, Module HOWTO, Installation HOWTO, PCMCIA HOWTO, BOOTDISK HOWTO, LILO documentation and man pages, and in particular the initrd.txt and ramdisk.txt documents (for me in /usr/src/linux/Documentation). The skeleton root file system Here is a listing of the skeleton root file system: total 11 drwxr-xr-x bin drwxr-xr-x dev drwxr-xr-x etc drwxr-xr-x lib -rwxr-xr-x linuxrc drwxr-xr-x mnt drwxr-xr-x modules drwxr-xr-x proc lrwxrwxrwx rmmod -> bin/insmod lrwxrwxrwx sbin -> bin drwxr-xr-x tmp drwxr-xr-x usr drwxr-xr-x var bin: total 753 drwxr-xr-x init.d lrwxrwxrwx sh -> bash and ordinary files: agetty, bash, cardmgr, cat, echo, fgrep, fsck, fsck.ext2, init, insmod, kill, loadkeys, ls, mingetty, mknod, mount, ps, pwd, rm, scsi_info, sleep, umount, uname bin/init.d: total 7 -rwxr-xr-x boot -rwxr-xr-x pcmcia -rwxr-xr-x rc dev: total 1 lrwxrwxrwx core -> /proc/kcore lrwxrwxrwx fd -> /proc/self/fd drwxr-xr-x inet lrwxrwxrwx ram -> ram0 lrwxrwxrwx ramdisk -> ram0 lrwxrwxrwx stderr -> fd/2 lrwxrwxrwx stdin -> fd/0 lrwxrwxrwx stdout -> fd/1 and the following devices (from standard dev directory) console, fd0, fd1, full, hda, hda1, hda2, hda3, hda4, hda5, hda6, hdb, hdb1, hdb2, hdc, hdc1, hdc2, initrd, kmem, mem, nst0, null, port, ram0, ram1, random, scd0, scd1, sda, sda1, sda2, sda3, sda4, sda5, sda6, sda7, sda8, sda9, sdb, sdb1, sdb2, sdb3, sdb4, sdb5, sdb6, sdb7, sdc, sdc1, sdc2, sr0, sr1, st0, tty, tty0, tty1, tty2, tty3, tty4, urandom, zero dev/inet: total 0 etc: total 26 -rw-r--r-- fstab -rw-r--r-- ld.so.cache drwxr-xr-x pcmcia -rw-r--r-- rc.config lrwxrwxrwx rc.d -> ../sbin/init.d etc/pcmcia: total 48 -r-xr-xr-x cdrom -r--r--r-- cdrom.opts -rw-r--r-- config -r--r--r-- config.opts -r-xr-xr-x fixed -r--r--r-- fixed.opts -r-xr-xr-x ftl -r--r--r-- ftl.opts -r-xr-xr-x memory -r--r--r-- memory.opts -r-xr-xr-x network -r--r--r-- network.opts -r-xr-xr-x pcmem -r--r--r-- pcmem.opts -r-xr-xr-x rc.pcmcia -r-xr-xr-x scsi -r--r--r-- scsi.opts -r-xr-xr-x serial -r--r--r-- serial.opts lib: total 1208 -rwxr-xr-x ld-linux.so.1 lrwxrwxrwx ld-linux.so.1. -> ld-linux.so.1 lrwxrwxrwx libc.so.5 -> libc.so.5.2.18 -rwxr-xr-x libc.so.5.2.18 -rwxr-xr-x libncurses.so.1.9.9g lrwxrwxrwx libncurses.so.3.0 -> libncurses.so.1.9.9g drwxr-xr-x modules lib/modules: total 1 drwxr-xr-x 2.0.25 lib/modules/2.0.25: total 14 drwxr-xr-x block drwxr-xr-x cdrom drwxr-xr-x fs drwxr-xr-x ipv4 drwxr-xr-x misc -rw-r--r-- modules.dep drwxr-xr-x net drwxr-xr-x pcmcia drwxr-xr-x scsi lib/modules/2.0.25/block: total 0 lib/modules/2.0.25/cdrom: total 0 lib/modules/2.0.25/fs: total 12 -rw-r--r-- binfmt_elf.o lib/modules/2.0.25/ipv4: total 0 lib/modules/2.0.25/misc: total 11 -rw-r--r-- vtx.o lib/modules/2.0.25/net: total 0 lib/modules/2.0.25/pcmcia: total 120 -rw-r--r-- aha152x_cs.o -rw-r--r-- ds.o -rw-r--r-- fixed_cs.o -rw-r--r-- ftl_cs.o -rw-r--r-- i82365.o -rw-r--r-- pcmcia_core.o -rw-r--r-- tcic.o lib/modules/2.0.25/scsi: total 104 -rw-r--r-- scsi_mod.o -rw-r--r-- scsi_syms.o -rw-r--r-- sd_mod.o -rw-r--r-- sg.o -rw-r--r-- sr_mod.o mnt: total 0 modules: total 123 -rw-r--r-- aha152x.o -rw-r--r-- aha152x_cs.o -rw-r--r-- cdrom.o -rw-r--r-- i82365.o -rw-r--r-- pcmcia_core.o proc: total 1 -r--r--r-- devices tmp: total 0 usr: total 2 drwxr-xr-x adm drwxr-xr-x lib usr/adm: total 0 usr/lib: total 0 var: total 1 drwxr-xr-x run var/run: total 0 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 09:24:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA105869863; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:24:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02638; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:24:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:19:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01995; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:19:17 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01978; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:19:10 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-51.usc.edu [128.125.223.195]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id GAA18717; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 06:18:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970202111833.0068d4f8@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 06:18:54 -0800 To: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Kiwi? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 04:28 AM 1/31/97 GMT, epbrown wrote: >701 is communicating just fine with my new Kiwi 680 (yes, I'll be leaving >the list soon, since I'll soon no longer be a 701 or other Thinkpad owner >:-( ) > Go for the upgrade, though remember what folks have said about TPs not >hibernating with OSR2! (I'm safe, the Kiwi doesn't hibernate anyway!) That's one way to solve a problem--eliminate the feature entirely! What's this "Kiwi" thing you speak of? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 09:24:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA105899867; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:24:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02633; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:23:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:18:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01923; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:18:42 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01907; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:18:37 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-51.usc.edu [128.125.223.195]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id GAA18726; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 06:18:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970202112102.0068d4f8@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 06:18:56 -0800 To: "J. Starkey" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Installing ZIP parallel port drive on TP701cs - How? Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 03:36 PM 1/31/97 -0500, J. Starkey wrote: >What is the "trick" to installing a ZIP parallel port drive to a ThinkPad >701cs under Windows95? I can put the files from the installation diskette >into a directory on the hard drive and install from that with the drive >attached via the adapter to the ThinkPad. However, subsequently, with the >ZIP drive attached to the parallel port on the Multiport port replicator >no drive letter is found for the Zip drive when booting. The way I had to do it was to run the DOS version of "Guest", THEN boot Win95 from the DOS prompt (not really "boot", but start it anyway). I then copied the contents of the Zip disk into a temporary directory on the drive and installed from that directory. Now it works fine, but I agree with you--it was like pulling teeth at first. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 10:13:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA113802835; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:13:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08898; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:13:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:08:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08291; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:08:48 -0500 Received: from relay6.UU.NET (relay6.UU.NET [192.48.96.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08284; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:08:45 -0500 Received: from rocky.summa4.com by relay6.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: rocky.summa4.com [206.67.6.1]) id QQcbhs27808; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:08:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from sherman.summa4.com ([10.254.1.9]) by rocky.summa4.com via smtpd (for relay6.UU.NET [192.48.96.16]) with SMTP; 3 Feb 1997 15:07:07 UT Received: from hal (root@hal.summa4.com [10.1.1.13]) by Summa4.COM (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA14328; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:07:06 -0500 (EST) Sender: root@Summa4.COM Message-Id: <32F5FFA7.580F288B@summa4.com> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 10:09:27 -0500 From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Myoung-Jun Kim Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: 701C suspend/resume References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Myoung-Jun Kim wrote: > Linux: I heard the suspend works well even in Linux. So, I tried it. The > result is quite strange. I won't die. I mean Linux refuses to be > suspended. When I press Fn+F4, the screen blinks once and the system > keeps running. It refuses also the hibernation. I can see the clock icon > (meaning a wait) by pressing Fn+F12, but it resumes to Linux immediatly. Both my girlfriend and I are running Linux on our 701C's, and neither of us have any problems with hibernate mode; the only thing that I can think of is that it might get confused if you're not using loadlin. I was unable to get Linux to even run WITHOUT loadlin, so I don't know what would happen if I didn't use it, but I'd bet some things wouldn't initialize right if you went straight into Linux. Give it a shot if you're not using it; it's pretty easy to install. Ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 11:31:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA138807512; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:31:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18589; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:29:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:23:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17780; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:23:14 -0500 Received: from mail2.pilot.net (mail2.pilot.net [198.232.147.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17767; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:23:09 -0500 From: Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (unknown-8-248.jud.state.ca.us [206.81.8.248]) by mail2.pilot.net with SMTP id IAA22249; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 2f610050; Mon, 3 Feb 97 08:19:17 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:19:11 -0800 Message-Id: <2f610050@ima.jud.ca.gov> To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: 701 docking Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.854986757" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the rest, you will have to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.854986757 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Received: from [198.232.147.11] by ima.jud.ca.gov with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 2f4210a0; Sat, 1 Feb 97 21:07:22 -0800 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mail2.pilot.net with SMT P id VAA26562 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26577; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:07:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:02:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25951; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:02:43 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25943; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:02:39 -0500 Received: from user-37kb97e.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb97e.dialup.mindspring .com [207.69.164.238]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA55988; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:02:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199702020502.AAA55988@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "slppj@cc.usu.edu" , "ThinkPad Mailing list" Date: Sat, 01 Feb 97 23:52:02 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 docking Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --IMA.Boundary.854986757 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part My 701 is working fine with Win95 either in or separate from the Dock 2. The only problem that shows up is that Win 95 occasionaly forgets to power up the external serial port for my drawing tablet. Am not sure whether this is a Win95 or hardware problem. It's so intermittent that it doesn't bother me too much. Mitchell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: 701 docking Author: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" at Internet Date: 2/1/97 11:52 PM There is an adapter card that you can get for the dock2 to work with the TP. Dock one w/n work. On Sat, 01 Feb 1997 05:13:48 -0700, Greg Alvandian wrote: >I was wondering what "docking" options are available for the 701's >besides the port replicator. Does the dockI or dockII work with 701? >How much do these cost new/used? Where can you get one? How well do >they work with win95? >-Greg Alvandian > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. 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Send date: 2/3/97 10:32:36 AM, Total Size: 2030 Original message was TO thinkpad@cs.utk.edu FROM machule@triumf.ca. For more details see log ID# 132 in database C:\Program Files\Golden Retriever\logs\Log 1-24-1997 161603.mdb. User jegan@infowave.net requested to forward this message to his/hers account. ********************************************************************************************************************** ---------- From: Angus Hewlett[SMTP:afh1@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Sunday, February 02, 1997 3:31 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Upgrading TP755 Hi, I recently bought a 755c, the DX2-50 model, and what I was wondering is, has anyone tried fitting an AMD 5x86 chip in this or any other Thinkpad. I know it -should- work, at 100MHz, as the existing chip is a 3.3v 486SL chip with a 25MHz external bus. However, I'd like to hear from anyone who has tried this (or any other overdrive-type chip) before I shell out a fortune on having it fitted. I believe this one had an official upgrade path in form of a small pc board with a 75Mhz DX-4 on it. Your best bet is therefore to find some kind soul who has done this and beg the the old 50Mhz version of him/her. Then buy the $45 AMD and unsolder the old............ OR talk to the 2 or 3 laptop upgrade companies .....I believe that two of them even lurk around here. pepsales?? OR talk to IBM's factory oulet they sometimes have parts. The official prices for the 50 and 75Mhz boards are amusing Note your cost could very low if you can find an old board. Also - what is the maximum capacity internal hard-disk on the TP755? I'm currently using a 540MB but it's a bit restrictive for running Win95 -and- Linux. Finally - roughly how much should I expect to pay for a secondhand Dock II? I've been offered one but I don't know if the price is any good. Contact these people : > Pete Breen > Netstream International are also on the web ??? > (972) 664-0383 > (972) 664-0384 (Fax) and: http://www.indexcomputer.com ....peter... Thanks in advance, Angus Hewlett -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- - When all else fails, we can whip the horses' eyes, - - And make them sleep, - - And cry. -The Soft Parade - -------------------------------------------------------------------- .. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 15:28:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA191031687; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:28:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15377; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:25:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:17:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14323; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:17:45 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14298; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:17:34 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id PAA28920; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:18:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:18:53 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Myoung-Jun Kim Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: 701C suspend/resume In-Reply-To: <32F5FFA7.580F288B@summa4.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > Myoung-Jun Kim wrote: > > > Linux: I heard the suspend works well even in Linux. So, I tried it. The > > result is quite strange. I won't die. I mean Linux refuses to be > > suspended. When I press Fn+F4, the screen blinks once and the system > > keeps running. It refuses also the hibernation. I can see the clock icon > > (meaning a wait) by pressing Fn+F12, but it resumes to Linux immediatly. > > Both my girlfriend and I are running Linux on our 701C's, and > neither of us have any problems with hibernate mode; the only I didn't read the original message closely since I don't use the hibernate mode, so this may have already been covered: Since it appears Linux+hibernate+701 works just fine, here's a really stupid question. Did you make a hibernate file? Did you leave enough empty space on your disk for a hibernate file? As for suspend not working, I think there is an option for switching the default Fn+F4 function between suspend and hibernate. Perhaps your 701 is set to hibernate by default, and without the disk space to do it, it's refusing? > thing that I can think of is that it might get confused if you're > not using loadlin. I was unable to get Linux to even run WITHOUT > loadlin, so I don't know what would happen if I didn't use it, Linux runs just fine on my 701 w/o loadlin. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 16:29:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA202065338; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:28:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22256; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:27:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:21:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21358; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:21:13 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21345; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:21:06 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA21357; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:12:35 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199702032112.QAA21357@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: 701C suspend/resume In-Reply-To: <32F5FFA7.580F288B@summa4.com> from Ken D'Ambrosio at "Feb 3, 97 10:09:27 am" To: kend@Summa4.COM (Ken D'Ambrosio) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:12:35 -0500 (EST) Cc: mjk@u.washington.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > Linux: I heard the suspend works well even in Linux. So, I tried it. The > > result is quite strange. I won't die. I mean Linux refuses to be > > suspended. When I press Fn+F4, the screen blinks once and the system > > keeps running. It refuses also the hibernation. I can see the clock icon > > (meaning a wait) by pressing Fn+F12, but it resumes to Linux immediatly. Try downloading the APM utils and using apm -s to suspend. This is safer, because the Linux kernel will do some cleanup before entering suspend mode. I have never failed to enter suspend mode using Fn-F4, but about 50% of the time, I cannot resume. On the other hand, apm -s has never failed to work for me in either suspend or resume. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 16:29:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA202115356; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:29:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22304; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:28:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:23:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21733; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:23:56 -0500 Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21717; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:23:46 -0500 Received: from ppp05.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Mon, 03 Feb 1997 13:19:36 PST Received: by ppp05.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC11D3.2B02B2A0@ppp05.Triumf.CA>; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 13:07:11 -0800 Message-Id: <01BC11D3.2B02B2A0@ppp05.Triumf.CA> From: peter machule To: "'afh1@ukc.ac.uk'" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Upgrading TP755 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:35:11 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Your DX2-50 is mounted on a small circuit board # 59G4056. You could replace it with a # 84G4288 which is the 75/25 Mhz version. On all (?) TP's the CPU is soldered to the motherboard. You are lucky in that you motherboard is in 2 sections. This means that to have = someone unsolder and resolder an AMD 100/25 Mhz CPU "should" be much cheaper than the $~450 ish normally charged. Mainly because of risk reasons = since most IBM MB's cost over $1000 . Is it worth it...?? contact "pepsales " and "corporate upgrades" for = some benchmarks but ask for system benchmarks. Some folks like to quote landmark's SPEED index which is meaningless. What you want is is ZIF's Winstone or equiv. If you want to do it yourself ....try to find a cheap /free processor = card. Getting at the card is a bitch; you will have to do a complete = dismantle.=20 Note that the one for the 750Ce has a different part # 66G9225 for the = 50/25 Mhz though the upgrade version is the same. :-} To keep things = interresting IBM's FAx back doc #42007, lists part # 84G2154 for the 755C as the = upgrade and.....66G9265 if you want IBM do do it. IBM sells 1.08 and 1.2 Gig HD's for this model so it seems LBA support = is there. So if you want a bigger HD, physical dimensions and price may = be your only concern. I seem to remember some concerns re: hibernate mode with some Toshiba HD's. Search the archives and DEJANEWS ...peter.. ---------- From: Angus Hewlett[SMTP:afh1@ukc.ac.uk] Sent: Sunday, February 02, 1997 1:12 PM To: peter machule Subject: Re: Upgrading TP755 Thanks for your help so far, but I was wondering: as my '486 chip is already a 3.3v chip, with a 25MHz bus speed, it is AFAIK essentially no different to a DX4-75 apart from the internal clock multiplier.=20 So is the DX4 board likely to make any difference, or have I missed something here? The voltage is the same, the BIOS is the same, the board is the same - and the chip is the bit that's getting replaced anyway... I hope! Thanks again, Angus -------------------------------------------------------------------- - When all else fails, we can whip the horses' eyes, - - And make them sleep, - - And cry. -The Soft Parade - -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 16:48:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA206306487; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:48:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25052; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:47:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:42:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24451; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:42:52 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24429; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:42:46 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id QAA29079; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:43:57 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:43:57 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C suspend/resume In-Reply-To: <199702032112.QAA21357@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu While we're on the topic, I've figured out one cause of a fail-to-resume on my 701. Many of you have complained about this - you open the lid of a suspended 701, the light goes on, but the screen remains blank. The computer is unresponsive to the keyboard and will not go back into suspend even with an Fn-F4. I suggested closing the lid to force a suspend, waiting a few seconds, and opening it again. This has always worked to wake up my 701. I've noticed that every time my 701 fails to resume in this manner, I had suspended it on AC, disconnected the power, then tried to resume it on battery. It does not fail-to-resume every time I do this, but when it does happen it is always preceeded by disconnecting the AC. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 20:42:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA245380558; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:42:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17472; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:42:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:33:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16735; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:33:56 -0500 Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16725; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:33:47 -0500 Received: from homer33.u.washington.edu (homer33.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.15]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA09908 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:32:34 -0800 Received: from localhost (mjk@localhost) by homer33.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA205756 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:33:45 -0800 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:33:45 -0800 (PST) From: Myoung-Jun Kim To: thinkpad Subject: Re: 701C suspend/resume In-Reply-To: <199702032112.QAA21357@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks very much for all the replies. I appreciate your helps. After reading all the replies, I feel the problme should be dcsribed precisely & completely, which is not easy. Let me describe my problem again. Basically, suspend/resume doesn't work in my 701C. Windows 95 & NT 4.0 crash after resume. But, the hibernation works greatly. More strange thing is that Linux refuses either suspend and hibernation. Ken: I'm using umsdos and lilo. Well, LILO works fine for me. However, I tried with loadlin as you suggested. Nothing changed. Dave: You suggested to try 'apm -s' to suspend. Wow, it makes a difference. Linux goes to suspend by 'apm -s'. But, it fails to resume. The kernel get unstable, and eventually crashes. John: I'm using Fn+F4 but closing lid makes the same problem. And, I stay on the AC power. I have the most recent BIOS, a DOS partition with enough space for hibernation. Bill recommens to reformat HDD and reinstall a fresh Win95. Does it really make a difference ? Well, everything seems OK in DOS (DOS only session of Win 95). I just tried to get EzServe repair. They ask me check the suspend on the first screen of Ez-Setup(hold F1 when power on). Yes, it works. So what? The Ez-Setup will be simpler program than DOS. However, that's the way they check the problem. As long as no problem is found in the system setup program, they don't give a service. I think it should be a hardware problem, I have to prove it to EzServe team. How can I do that ? Thanks again How can I do that ? BOX 352650 Seattle WA 98195 On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Dave Ahn wrote: > > > Linux: I heard the suspend works well even in Linux. So, I tried it. The > > > result is quite strange. I won't die. I mean Linux refuses to be > > > suspended. When I press Fn+F4, the screen blinks once and the system > > > keeps running. It refuses also the hibernation. I can see the clock icon > > > (meaning a wait) by pressing Fn+F12, but it resumes to Linux immediatly. > > > Try downloading the APM utils and using apm -s to suspend. This is > safer, because the Linux kernel will do some cleanup before entering > suspend mode. I have never failed to enter suspend mode using Fn-F4, > but about 50% of the time, I cannot resume. On the other hand, > apm -s has never failed to work for me in either suspend or resume. > > Regards, > Dave. > > -- > Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the > world rejoiced. Try to live your life > Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, > Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 21:01:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA249381710; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 21:01:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19540; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 21:01:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:57:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19133; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:57:42 -0500 Received: from postie.cit.com.au (smtp.cit.com.au [203.19.130.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19119; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:57:33 -0500 Received: by postie.cit.com.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BC129B.77F3F9C0@postie.cit.com.au>; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:01:00 +1100 Message-Id: From: Sven Dowideit To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:00:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >unsubscribe From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 3 23:08:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA268119332; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:08:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01973; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:08:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:02:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01201; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:02:07 -0500 Received: from wolfe.net (mail1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01192; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:01:52 -0500 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com (sea-ts3-p01.wolfenet.com [204.157.98.183]) by wolfe.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id UAA29250 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:03:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970203200119.0069b260@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: pele@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 20:01:22 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: direct cable connection issue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recently bought a used 701C running Win95. Included w/the purchahse was a cable with a male clamp at either end, which theoretically should allow me to transfer files by connecting LPT ports of the TP and my desktop. I'd like to try it, but until I get Win95 Direct Cable Connection applet installed, that's not an option. My problem is that even though I'm running Win95 (the TP I purchase came with it installed) the prior owner did not put direct cable connection into the accessories group, and I do not have an external CD player w/which to install it from the CD version of win95 I own. Anyone know if direct cable connection is downloadable from Microsoft web page. If so, help locating it would be much appreciated. Apart from that possible option, I'm looking for suggestions to acquire direct cable connection without having to purchase an external CD or a PCMCIA ethernet card to access a network. Thanks! -- _ ____ ___ / / ___ / __ \/ _ \ / / / _ \ / /_/ / __// / / __/ / .___/\___//_/ \___/ /_/ Peter Lewis pele@wolfenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 4 03:17:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA001444255; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:17:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21870; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:17:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:12:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21332; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:12:24 -0500 Received: from hil-img-3.compuserve.com (hil-img-3.compuserve.com [149.174.177.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21325; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:12:22 -0500 Received: by hil-img-3.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id DAA16391; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:03:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:03:40 -0500 From: John Schoonover <100655.1065@compuserve.com> Subject: Xfree86 on Thinkpad 365XD To: Thinkpad list Message-Id: <199702040303_MC2-10B5-E291@compuserve.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If anyone can point me to the right configuration file for Xfree86 under Linux on a 365XD, I'd be a much happier camper. TIA John From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 4 03:28:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA002574908; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:28:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA23402; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:28:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:23:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22703; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:23:30 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22682; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:23:23 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA19986; Mon, 3 Feb 97 22:23:22 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA13655; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:24:02 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199702040824.WAA13655@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: direct cable connection issue To: pele@wolfenet.com (Peter Lewis) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 97 22:24:00 HST Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970203200119.0069b260@popserv.wolfenet.com>; from "Peter Lewis" at Feb 3, 97 8:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > My problem is that even though I'm running Win95 (the TP I purchase came > with it installed) the prior owner did not put direct cable connection into > the accessories group, and I do not have an external CD player w/which to > install it from the CD version of win95 I own. If you have a CD player on your desktop, there is (free, downloadable) software which will let you access that CD from your laptop. Look for CDLINK at your favorite site, or let me know and I'll dig out the company's URL. (To be honest I've never tried it, I downloaded it right before my TP701 started to flake out, over 2 months ago now. Maybe I'll get a chance to try it this week - IBM assures me that there's a replacement machine on its way, no kidding this time.) - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 4 11:55:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA065355299; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:54:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19432; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:53:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:44:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18266; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:44:08 -0500 Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18260; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:44:05 -0500 Received: from homer05.u.washington.edu (homer05.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.12]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA17356 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:41:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (mjk@localhost) by homer05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA89854 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:44:01 -0800 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:44:01 -0800 (PST) From: Myoung-Jun Kim To: thinkpad Subject: Re: 701C suspend/resume In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello. At last, I figured out what is the problem in my 701c with suspend/resume. Yes, it is a hardware problem. The suspend/resume works fine on small OS's such as DOS, 701's setup program. So, I suspected the extended memory. I took 16mb memory out. Sigh, everything works fine. I had a hard time with NT 4.0 in 8mb space. (Mine is 8mb(system) + 16mb(extended)) Gosh, I bought this used 701 recently. The seller repeated that the machine is in an excellent condition and he didn't know about the suspend problem because he didn't use it. Well, should I believe him ? Does it sound resonable not to use a suspend/resume function on a notebook PC ? Anyway, now I know the problem. Many thanks to all the guys who helped me. Going back to the hardware problem, maybe the 16mb SO-DIMM is defective or incompatible. I found it is not a IBM thing. It says 'Southland Micro Systems'. The model number seems to be '28720-70V'. The memory chip is from Mitsubishi, and labeled 'M5M416400BTP, 4482D02-7'. Does anyone have a problem with this kind of third party memory upgrade ? One happy possibility will be that the memory is OK but the motherboard does not supply a proper power to the memory. Then, I can go to IBM service. I hope this case. Would you tell me about your case with the memory upgrade ? Thanks. ------------------------------------------------- Dr. Myoung-Jun Kim, U of Washington BOX 352650 Seattle WA 98195 On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Myoung-Jun Kim wrote: > Thanks very much for all the replies. I appreciate your helps. After > reading all the replies, I feel the problme should be dcsribed precisely & > completely, which is not easy. Let me describe my problem again. > > Basically, suspend/resume doesn't work in my 701C. Windows 95 & NT 4.0 > crash after resume. But, the hibernation works greatly. > > More strange thing is that Linux refuses either suspend and hibernation. > > Ken: I'm using umsdos and lilo. Well, LILO works fine for me. However, > I tried with loadlin as you suggested. Nothing changed. > > Dave: You suggested to try 'apm -s' to suspend. Wow, it makes a > difference. Linux goes to suspend by 'apm -s'. But, it fails to resume. > The kernel get unstable, and eventually crashes. > > John: I'm using Fn+F4 but closing lid makes the same problem. And, I stay > on the AC power. I have the most recent BIOS, a DOS partition with enough > space for hibernation. > > Bill recommens to reformat HDD and reinstall a fresh Win95. Does it > really make a difference ? > > Well, everything seems OK in DOS (DOS only session of Win 95). > > I just tried to get EzServe repair. They ask me check the suspend on the > first screen of Ez-Setup(hold F1 when power on). Yes, it works. So what? > The Ez-Setup will be simpler program than DOS. However, that's the way > they check the problem. As long as no problem is found in the system > setup program, they don't give a service. > > I think it should be a hardware problem, I have to prove it to EzServe > team. How can I do that ? > > Thanks again > > > How can I do that ? > BOX 352650 Seattle WA 98195 > > On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Dave Ahn wrote: > > > > > Linux: I heard the suspend works well even in Linux. So, I tried it. The > > > > result is quite strange. I won't die. I mean Linux refuses to be > > > > suspended. When I press Fn+F4, the screen blinks once and the system > > > > keeps running. It refuses also the hibernation. I can see the clock icon > > > > (meaning a wait) by pressing Fn+F12, but it resumes to Linux immediatly. > > > > > > Try downloading the APM utils and using apm -s to suspend. This is > > safer, because the Linux kernel will do some cleanup before entering > > suspend mode. I have never failed to enter suspend mode using Fn-F4, > > but about 50% of the time, I cannot resume. On the other hand, > > apm -s has never failed to work for me in either suspend or resume. > > > > Regards, > > Dave. > > > > -- > > Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the > > world rejoiced. Try to live your life > > Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, > > Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 4 11:55:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA065435309; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:55:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19530; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:54:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:50:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19066; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:50:43 -0500 Received: from china2.ygi.edu.cn ([202.112.216.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18857; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:49:50 -0500 From: Received: from china2.ygi.edu.cn ([202.112.216.32]) by china2.ygi.edu.cn (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA01587 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:48:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:48:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199702041648.LAA01587@china2.ygi.edu.cn> X-Sender: ejd@china2.ygi.edu.cn (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Need TP755 hard-drive connector cable info Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Howdy, After a 1.5 year hiatus, I am back on the list. For the last several days, I see there are still some familiar names around. I live and work overseas and haven't had a good net connection until now. I'm glad to be back. I have a TP755CS with 8Meg RAM, two HDs (170Meg- Win3.1/ 340Meg- Linux running X), DX4-75. I would like to try to locally purchase a standard 2.5inch IDE harddrive, make a makeshift cover, and install it myself. I have some old messages from the list on this (Kim, Chou, Whiteside et al/ that suggest this can be done), but the one piece of info I am missing is the specs on the connector/cable to make the connection between the IDE drive 44pins and the AMP D connector on the outside. Does anyone have recent pertinent info/pitfalls to avoid etc. on this and where I can order such a connector/cable in the states? I know many of you have upgraded over the last several years; unfortunately, I haven't been able to... thus I am still using this friendly, old but faithful machine. I am a longtime Linux user, and want to upgrade my kernel, but alas I am short on RAM and disk space. Thus, if there is anyone with some old machines around that are gathering dust and are interested in unloading an old part for a reasonable price :-), I am in the market for some more RAM, new battery, and a new harddrive. Maybe there are places that have sprung up in the last few years that sell this old stuff. Pointers in the right direction would be appreciated. I did see the recent pointer to www.indexcomputer.com for TP755 upgrades. Thanks in advance and Best regards, Joe Derrick From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 4 12:15:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA069716503; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:15:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21968; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:14:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:10:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21352; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:10:12 -0500 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21320; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:10:07 -0500 Received: from humanbullet.execpc.com (humanbullet.execpc.com [169.207.5.153]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA03323 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:16:26 -0600 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New BIOS for 760E/760ED/760EL/760ELD without XGA Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 17:08:12 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <32fa6c2d.2947330@mailgate.execpc.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/16.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu IBM just posted a new BIOS to their Web site for the following Thinkpads: 760E/760ED/760EL/760ELD without XGA (*important* to note this is only for those without XGA). I went to the READ ME and here's what IBM says was changed between 1.05 and 1.06. <1.06> - (Fix) Screen image corrupts after waking up from Hibernation mode. We have not experienced this problem (that I know of), but would be interested to hear if others have. The place to get the new BIOS is http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/sytpg.html. HTH. Tom Kustner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 4 12:29:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA074077394; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:29:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23810; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:28:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:24:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23279; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:24:35 -0500 Received: from public.nfld.com (root@public.nfld.com [198.165.106.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23249; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:24:27 -0500 Received: from terry-p--ibm- (ts00-p16.remote.nfld.com [198.165.106.113]) by public.nfld.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA12068 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:54:15 -0330 Message-Id: <199702041724.NAA12068@public.nfld.com> From: "Terry Parrell" To: "ThinkPad Listserver" Subject: Keyboard errors Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 11:19:04 -0300 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello Fellow Thinkpaders: Stuff: TP 750C. 20megs. I have an ERROR 08603 when I plug a keyboard into the keyboard / mouse port and the computer stops. anyone know or can tell me what 8603 error is? This did work once upon a time. And the DOCK I Connections work fine. Thanks for any help. Terry Parrell St. John's, Newfoundland Canada From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 4 12:43:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA079198185; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:43:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25358; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:42:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:37:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24714; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:37:53 -0500 Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu (merle.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24702; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:37:46 -0500 Received: from [129.105.76.29] by merle.acns.nwu.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA187217854; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:37:34 -0600 X-Sender: bberry@merle.acns.nwu.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:37:31 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Berry Subject: re: Xfree86 on Thinkpad 365XD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Me too. I'm running Red Hat with MetroX, and I can only get it to work in 16 color mode - uuuugglleeee! Oh yeah, I have the dual-scan screen, not the TFT. Have a better one. B. >If anyone can point me to the right configuration file for Xfree86 under >Linux on >a 365XD, I'd be a much happier camper. >TIA >John ******************************************************************************** Bill Berry Program Assistant Records Department Northwestern University Office of Undergraduate Admission 1801 Hinman Avenue Evanston, IL 60208 Phone: 847-467-1918 Email: w-berry@nwu.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 4 13:57:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA096492662; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:57:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03133; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:56:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:51:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02473; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:50:57 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02390; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:50:32 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-5 #9830) id <01IF0M5Y8SPS90N7MV@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:50:10 MST Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 11:42:43 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Keyboard errors In-Reply-To: "Message dated Sun, 02 Feb 1997 11:19:04 -0300" <199702041724.NAA12068@public.nfld.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IF0MI3HKEE90N7MV@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Stuff: TP 750C. 20megs. > I have an ERROR 08603 when I plug a keyboard into the > keyboard / mouse port and the computer stops. My Hardware Maintenance Manual Vol. 2: Thinkpad Computers (Oct 94) says an 860x error is a pointing device error when the TrackPoint II is disabled. It says first check the external mouse, then the ext. keyboard and finally try replacing the system board. It looks like you need a mouse too, or maybe one of those adapter cables that plugs both the keyboard and mouse into the same socket? Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 4 14:08:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA101193305; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:08:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04443; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:07:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:03:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03832; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:03:31 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03823; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:03:27 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21619 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:09:34 -0700 Message-Id: <32F78784.72EF@wwsi.com> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 12:01:24 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Keyboard errors X-Priority: Normal References: <01IF0MI3HKEE90N7MV@Opus1.COM> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu billy@MIX.COM wrote: > > I have an ERROR 08603 when I plug a keyboard into the > > keyboard / mouse port and the computer stops. > > My Hardware Maintenance Manual Vol. 2: Thinkpad Computers (Oct 94) > says an 860x error is a pointing device error when the TrackPoint II > is disabled. It says first check the external mouse, then the ext. > keyboard and finally try replacing the system board. > > It looks like you need a mouse too, or maybe one of those adapter > cables that plugs both the keyboard and mouse into the same socket? This is correct. The port is for either: 1) A mouse 2) A Y-jack that plugs into both a mouse and a keyboard ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 4 15:20:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA116597631; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:20:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13040; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:18:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:12:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12318; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:12:23 -0500 Received: from bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (root@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca [199.185.130.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12306; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:12:15 -0500 Received: from remote204.compusmart.ab.ca (remote204.compusmart.ab.ca [206.75.84.29]) by bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (8.7.4/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA03478 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:02:32 -0700 (MST) Received: by remote204.compusmart.ab.ca with Microsoft Mail id <01BC129D.13F63800@remote204.compusmart.ab.ca>; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:12:31 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC129D.13F63800@remote204.compusmart.ab.ca> From: Lance Nichols To: "ThinkPad Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: Docking station what ifs? Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:11:40 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have been starting to look at retiring my 701CS, and upgrading to a = 760LD w/active matrix. I am planning on getting the Base Model docking = station, along with the SelectaDock II. One of the reasons I am doing = this is I want to use the PCI and ISA cards that I currently own. Now the question I have is: does anyone have experience with setting up = multiple configurations (docked, undocked etc)? This is what I want to = do: I want to use an ATI 3D Graphics expression card while docked, as = well as a AWE32 SoundBlaster. Has anyone on the list used OEM-SR2 to set-up a configuration like this, = or a similar configuration that disables one of the ThinkPad's built in = hardware features to use a card plugged into the docking station? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 4 16:35:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA136112112; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:35:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22047; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:33:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:27:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20835; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:27:13 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20813; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:27:00 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA21853; Tue, 4 Feb 97 11:26:44 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA15433; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:27:24 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199702042127.LAA15433@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: direct cable connection issue To: pele@wolfenet.com (Peter Lewis) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 97 11:27:22 HST Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970203200119.0069b260@popserv.wolfenet.com>; from "Peter Lewis" at Feb 3, 97 8:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu found the URL: www.singnet.com.sg/~storage/cdlink.htm BTW, if all you want to do is transfer files, then you can do this either using a Laplink-like program or even with Interlink; the trick on the latter is to have the Thinkpad be the server machine, and the host with the CDROM be the target. (I may have this backwards; you want to be logged in to the machine with the CD, and have the Interlink blue screen on the notebook.) Of course, you can't install or run software from the CDROM this way. (You *can* using the CDLINK program.) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 4 17:00:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA141893612; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:00:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24498; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:49:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:44:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23748; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:44:42 -0500 Received: from ra.isisnet.com (root@ra.isisnet.com [199.45.83.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23707; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:44:28 -0500 Received: from ra.isisnet.com by ra.isisnet.com (8.8.3/SMI-SVR4) id RAA25615; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:40:43 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970204213943.006dcb48@isisnet.com> X-Sender: robsteve@isisnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 17:39:43 -0400 To: "Terry Parrell" , "ThinkPad Listserver" From: "Robert G. Stevens" Subject: Re: Keyboard errors Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:19 AM 02/02/97 -0300, Terry Parrell wrote: >Hello Fellow Thinkpaders: > >Stuff: TP 750C. 20megs. > >I have an ERROR 08603 when I plug a keyboard into the >keyboard / mouse port and the computer stops. > >anyone know or can tell me what 8603 error is? This did work once upon a >time. And the DOCK I Connections work fine. > >Thanks for any help. > >Terry Parrell >St. John's, Newfoundland Canada > > > Terry: You need an adapter to plug a keyboard into the mouse connector. The adapter plugs in and then on the other end it has two connectors labled mouse and keyboard. This adapter is not cheap from IBM (about $60). I was in Future Shop in Halifax last week and saw a no-name equivalent for about $20.00. You might find one if you have a Future Shop in St John's. Regards Robert Stevens From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 4 17:16:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA145404603; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:16:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28009; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:12:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:08:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27358; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:07:57 -0500 Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [15.253.72.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27346; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:07:53 -0500 From: Received: from boi118.boi.hp.com (boi118.boi.hp.com [15.56.8.42]) by palrel1.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA23862; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from by boi118.boi.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.4 Openmail) id AA134374114; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:08:34 -0800 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 97 14:07:53 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BC129D.13F63800@remote204.compusmart.ab.ca> Subject: Re: Docking station what ifs? Mime-Version: 1.0 To: lnichols@compusmart.ab.ca Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am currently using a 760C with a Dock-II wiht Win95 OSR2. I have a SoundBlaster AWE32 in use with no problems. With an internal video card I did have a problem of the hardware wizard kicking in and changing my video every time I docked and un-docked. In the end I decided that the Dock-II does not work too well with an internal video card. Richard ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Docking station what ifs? Author: Non-HP-lnichols (lnichols@compusmart.ab.ca) at HP-Boise,mimegw18 Date: 2/4/97 11:11 AM I have been starting to look at retiring my 701CS, and upgrading to a 760LD w/ac tive matrix. I am planning on getting the Base Model docking station, along with the SelectaDock II. One of the reasons I am doing this is I want to use the PCI and ISA cards that I currently own. Now the question I have is: does anyone have experience with setting up multiple configurations (docked, undocked etc)? This is what I want to do: I want to use an ATI 3D Graphics expression card while docked, as well as a AWE32 SoundBlaste r. Has anyone on the list used OEM-SR2 to set-up a configuration like this, or a si milar configuration that disables one of the ThinkPad's built in hardware featur es to use a card plugged into the docking station? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 4 22:35:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA214403718; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:35:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29694; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:31:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:25:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29045; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:25:35 -0500 Received: from megspo1.megsinet.net (megspo.megsinet.net [206.222.62.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29022; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:25:24 -0500 Received: from 225ohiomax2-31.megsinet.net ([208.133.75.159]) by megspo1.megsinet.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-11704) with SMTP id AAA117 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:25:41 -0600 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970203212516.192794ae@megspo.megsinet.net> X-Sender: chessie@megspo.megsinet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) Subject: RE: 701 modem tips Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:25:41 -0600 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu after getting a bunch or private replies from folks to cc them on results of my request, I think might have to explain a bit to the 'newer' list members. About a year to a year and a half ago, a discusion about tweaking the internal 701 modem took place. There were some different command set strings that were proposed and that seemed to work for particular applications. I can not recall who exactly posted what, so I thougt I would post to te list. Alternatively, do we maintain an archive? I don't think so, but perhapse I have forgotten. As always, TIA Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- chessie@megsinet.net pantazis@uiuc.edu You can still see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 5 03:41:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA259232092; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 03:41:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21807; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 03:39:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 03:37:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21641; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 03:37:06 -0500 Received: from clear.net.nz (fep2-orange.clear.net.nz [203.97.32.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21634; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 03:36:58 -0500 Received: from d1-u38.wgtn.clear.net.nz (d1-u25.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.97.50.89]) by clear.net.nz (1.5/1.15) with SMTP id VAA10596 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:36:27 +1300 (NZDT) Received: by d1-u38.wgtn.clear.net.nz with Microsoft Mail id <01BC13AC.CB16C120@d1-u38.wgtn.clear.net.nz>; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:37:32 +1300 Message-Id: <01BC13AC.CB16C120@d1-u38.wgtn.clear.net.nz> From: Simon Morris To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Kiwi? Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:03:38 +1300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >> Go for the upgrade, though remember what folks have said about TPs not >>hibernating with OSR2! (I'm safe, the Kiwi doesn't hibernate anyway!) > That's one way to solve a problem--eliminate the feature entirely! > > What's this "Kiwi" thing you speak of? Kiwi : National bird of New Zealand. Small, brown and flightless. Only comes out at night to feed on worms. Endangered species. Way to name a laptop, man!! Simon Morris From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 5 12:33:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA037414004; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:33:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19721; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:26:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:17:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18311; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:17:08 -0500 Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18174; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:16:01 -0500 Received: from falkor (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2-biteme) with SMTP id LAA09646 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:15:48 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199702051715.LAA09646@Kitten.mcs.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ron Heiby" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:15:05 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: direct cable connection issue Reply-To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > BTW, if all you want to do is transfer files, then you can do this > either using a Laplink-like program or even with Interlink Actually, you can do it with Kermit, which has advantages in terms of cost over Laplink, ease of setup over Interlink, interoperability with non DOS/Windows operating systems, and availability on non DOS/Windows operating systems. -- Ron. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 5 16:22:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA080897723; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:22:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14451; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:14:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:08:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13783; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:08:01 -0500 Received: from public.nfld.com (root@public.nfld.com [198.165.106.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13766; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:07:43 -0500 Received: from terry-p--ibm- (ts01-p19.remote.nfld.com [198.165.106.148]) by public.nfld.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA10161 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:37:21 -0330 Message-Id: <199702052107.RAA10161@public.nfld.com> From: "Terry Parrell" To: "ThinkPad Listserver" Subject: Keyboard error Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:08:17 -0300 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks for the feedback... I will get a Y-Adaptor.... Butttt Something still bothers me.... I am Sure that the keyboard worked pluged into this port before. I could use a keyboard or a Mouse... I remember using a keyboard for some speed typing of a large doc and using the numeric keypad of same. Was it a dream? I havn't checked the Manual, what does it say about the port? It's around here somewhere... Thanks All. Terry Parrell St. Johns's, Nfld, Canada, North America, Northern Hemisphere, Earth From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 5 16:41:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA085668883; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:41:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16607; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:33:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:28:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16110; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:28:49 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15562; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:24:10 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA25529; Wed, 5 Feb 97 11:22:30 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA16164; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:23:11 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199702052123.LAA16164@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: direct cable connection issue To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us Date: Wed, 5 Feb 97 11:23:09 HST Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199702051715.LAA09646@Kitten.mcs.com>; from "Ron Heiby" at Feb 5, 97 11:15 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I wrote: > BTW, if all you want to do is transfer files, then you can do this > > either using a Laplink-like program or even with Interlink Ron replied: > Actually, you can do it with Kermit, which has advantages in terms of > cost over Laplink, ease of setup over Interlink, interoperability > with non DOS/Windows operating systems, and availability on non > DOS/Windows operating systems. Or any other comms program, presumably. This is a good point. However, this won't work for large-scale installation of an OS or programs from a CDROM onto a CD-less machine, which I believe is what the original poster wanted. Also, Kermit (at least the version I have) won't talk to the parallel port, and serial transfers are so slowwww. Incidentally, I had a chance to try the CDLINK program last night. Very very nice, especially at the price (free). I *had* been pricing out external CDROM drives for my TP, but not any more. (Probably I should do some benchmarking of the CD link before I make any blanket assertions; however, in theory I should be able to get transfer speeds comparable to a 6x CD ROM through the ECP.) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 5 18:12:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA106704377; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:12:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28578; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:07:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:02:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27619; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:02:25 -0500 Received: from wolfe.net (mail1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27458; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:01:46 -0500 Received: from gonzo.wolfenet.com (pele@gonzo.wolfenet.com [204.157.98.2]) by wolfe.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id PAA10638; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:03:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (pele@localhost) by gonzo.wolfenet.com (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id PAA26951; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:01:26 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: gonzo.wolfenet.com: pele owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:01:26 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Lewis To: David Ross Cc: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: direct cable connection issue In-Reply-To: <199702052123.LAA16164@tarski.hawaii.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu David's point is well taken. As the original poster, I was interested in exactly what he recounts...cheap options on how to install software with some tonnage -- or even an O/S -- onto my CD-less TP 701C from my desktop which has a CD. Question to David: The cdlink readme refers to the need to run the program under Win95 in real mode. Since you report success, please tell me if "real" mode is really "safe" mode? And related to that: Did you have both the "client" (laptop) and "server" (desktop) in real (a/k/a safe) mode, or just one of them? (If just one, which?) Thanks! On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, David Ross wrote: > I wrote: > > BTW, if all you want to do is transfer files, then you can do this > > > either using a Laplink-like program or even with Interlink > > Ron replied: > > Actually, you can do it with Kermit, which has advantages in terms of > > cost over Laplink, ease of setup over Interlink, interoperability > > with non DOS/Windows operating systems, and availability on non > > DOS/Windows operating systems. > > Or any other comms program, presumably. This is a good point. > > However, this won't work for large-scale installation of an OS or > programs from a CDROM onto a CD-less machine, which I > believe is what the original poster wanted. Also, Kermit (at least > the version I have) won't talk to the parallel port, and serial > transfers are so slowwww. > > Incidentally, I had a chance to try the CDLINK program last night. > Very very nice, especially at the price (free). I *had* been pricing > out external CDROM drives for my TP, but not any more. (Probably I > should do some benchmarking of the CD link before I make any blanket > assertions; however, in theory I should be able to get transfer speeds > comparable to a 6x CD ROM through the ECP.) > > - David > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 5 18:26:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA109375165; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:26:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00550; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:23:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:19:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29984; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:19:38 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29738; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:18:00 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA26172; Wed, 5 Feb 97 13:17:51 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA16205; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 13:18:32 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199702052318.NAA16205@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: direct cable connection issue To: pele@wolfenet.com (Peter Lewis) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 97 13:18:28 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "Peter Lewis" at Feb 5, 97 3:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Question to David: The cdlink readme refers to the need to run the program > under Win95 in real mode. Since you report success, please tell > me if "real" mode is really "safe" mode? And related to that: Did you have > both the "client" (laptop) and "server" (desktop) in real (a/k/a safe) > mode, or just one of them? (If just one, which?) I ran the server software in a DOS window on a W95 machine. My client was running WIndows 3.1. I believe that, to work properly, the client-side CDLINK software has to be mounted by DOS as a device driver (i.e., W95 won't auto-recognize the CD) using the usual DOS MSCDXXXX.sys/MSCDEX combination; the server-side can be anything (W31, W95, OS2, Unix) that can run DOS programs in an environment where the printer port is visible. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 5 19:33:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA128089233; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:33:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06070; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:31:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:26:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05543; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:26:30 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05529; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:26:24 -0500 Received: from user-37kb94m.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb94m.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.150]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA13714; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:26:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199702060026.TAA13714@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Lance Nichols" , "ThinkPad Mailing List (E-mail)" Date: Wed, 05 Feb 97 19:26:25 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Docking station what ifs? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The Selectadock ll will only work with the 760E series of TP's. For the 760LD wou will need a dock2, sorry. On Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:11:40 -0700, Lance Nichols wrote: >I have been starting to look at retiring my 701CS, and upgrading to a 760LD w/active matrix. I am planning on getting the Base Model docking station, along with the SelectaDock II. One of the reasons I am doing this is I want to use the PCI and ISA cards that I currently own. > >Now the question I have is: does anyone have experience with setting up multiple configurations (docked, undocked etc)? This is what I want to do: I want to use an ATI 3D Graphics expression card while docked, as well as a AWE32 SoundBlaster. > >Has anyone on the list used OEM-SR2 to set-up a configuration like this, or a similar configuration that disables one of the ThinkPad's built in hardware features to use a card plugged into the docking station? jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 5 20:50:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA139943850; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:50:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12709; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:48:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:41:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11879; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:41:29 -0500 Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (root@access.mbnet.mb.ca [130.179.16.143]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11870; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:41:17 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ts8m-10.mbnet.mb.ca [204.112.178.141]) by access.mbnet.mb.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA25683 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:41:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <32F953E3.4BC6@mbnet.mb.ca> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 19:45:39 -0800 From: Jason Savage Reply-To: Jason_Savage@mbnet.mb.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM Part Number for the 701 Preload CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu After my ThinkPad nearly took a flying leap off the table (when my friend tripped over the cord of my AC adapter), I decided to inquire with EasyServe about purchasing a 701 Preload CD. Unfortunately, the tech had no idea what I was talking about. So, if someone could please give me an IBM part number and maybe the number of someone at IBM who can help me; I would greatly appreciate it. Thanx in advance. Sincerely, Jason Savage Savage@MBnet.MB.CA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 5 21:24:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA145735864; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:24:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16185; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:21:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:17:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15536; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:17:35 -0500 Received: from ts1.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15522; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:17:26 -0500 Received: from ericgile (port20.netpathway.com [208.137.139.35]) by ts1.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA10886; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:16:58 -0600 Message-Id: <32F93E9A.4960@netpathway.com> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 20:14:50 -0600 From: Eric Giles X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jason_Savage@mbnet.mb.ca Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM Part Number for the 701 Preload CD References: <32F953E3.4BC6@mbnet.mb.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Jason Savage wrote: > > After my ThinkPad nearly took a flying leap off the table (when my > friend tripped over the cord of my AC adapter), I decided to inquire > with EasyServe about purchasing a 701 Preload CD. Unfortunately, the > tech had no idea what I was talking about. So, if someone could please > give me an IBM part number and maybe the number of someone at IBM who > can help me; I would greatly appreciate it. Thanx in advance. > > Sincerely, > Jason Savage > Savage@MBnet.MB.CA I'm not sure which is the exact part number, but I'm sure one of these will work. The number on the CD sleeve is IRP-TP701, and the number on the CD itself is 2630US10. I couldn't find the receipt, so this is all I have. One more note-just this weekend I tried to do a recovery on my 701C, just for the fun of it. After loading per instructions by using the CD-ROM drive on my desktop, I tried to use OS/2 by clicking on the 'Go to OS/2 Warp' icon. All the machine did was go to DOS, then reboot into Win 3.11. This was the same thing that happened when I received the machine, although I didn't really care since I installed Win95 on it the same day. I called IBM support, and the tech suggested a few command line options. None of them worked, so his last suggestion was to reinstall the recovery again. Well, I reloaded it again, but with the same results as before. I called support again the next day, and the tech I talked to was a complete idiot (sorry for the harsh criticism, but you would understand of you had heard the conversation). Anyway, I gave up and just reinstalled Win95 again. Just pointing out some potential problems that you may have. Eric Giles From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 5 22:13:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA152168795; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:13:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20474; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:10:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:05:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20134; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:05:30 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20126; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:05:26 -0500 Received: from user-37kb97k.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb97k.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.244]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA40714; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:05:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199702060305.WAA40714@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Jason_Savage@mbnet.mb.ca" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 05 Feb 97 22:05:18 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IBM Part Number for the 701 Preload CD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Try calling 1800-772-2227 opt 3-3-4, they were available before. On Wed, 05 Feb 1997 19:45:39 -0800, Jason Savage wrote: >After my ThinkPad nearly took a flying leap off the table (when my >friend tripped over the cord of my AC adapter), I decided to inquire >with EasyServe about purchasing a 701 Preload CD. Unfortunately, the >tech had no idea what I was talking about. So, if someone could please >give me an IBM part number and maybe the number of someone at IBM who >can help me; I would greatly appreciate it. Thanx in advance. > > Sincerely, > Jason Savage > Savage@MBnet.MB.CA jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 6 00:04:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA171265478; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:04:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01488; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:02:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:56:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00754; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:56:21 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00747; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:56:16 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA27224; Wed, 5 Feb 97 18:56:13 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA16252; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:56:55 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199702060456.SAA16252@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: IBM Part Number for the 701 Preload CD To: egiles@netpathway.com (Eric Giles) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 97 18:56:53 HST Cc: Jason_Savage@mbnet.mb.ca, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <32F93E9A.4960@netpathway.com>; from "Eric Giles" at Feb 5, 97 8:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Eric Giles wrote: > One more note-just this weekend I tried to do a recovery on my 701C, > just for the fun of it. After loading per instructions by using the > CD-ROM drive on my desktop, I tried to use OS/2 by clicking on the 'Go > to OS/2 Warp' icon. All the machine did was go to DOS, then reboot into > Win 3.11. Interesting. I had exactly the same experience trying to reinstall Warp from the disks produced by the disk factory. Righ now I'm facing again the decision of whether to keep Warp (I'm sitting in front of 2 701s - my old one, which works for an average of 30 minutes/day, and the replacement from IBM which arrived yesterday fully loaded with software). Probably I'll just wipe the disk and put W95 on it. If I ever decide to go back to OS2 I'll get Warp 4 (if it will fit on my 360 meg drive!) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 6 06:08:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA221167304; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 06:08:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07923; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 06:06:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Feb 1997 06:00:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07280; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 06:00:33 -0500 Received: from mail.physics.ox.ac.uk (mail.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.244.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07176; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 06:00:20 -0500 Received: from max15.public.ox.ac.uk by mail.physics.ox.ac.uk with SMTP (Oxford Physics Sendmail for ) id AA02796; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:52:23 GMT Message-Id: <199702061052.AA02796@mail.physics.ox.ac.uk> From: "Geoff Hogan" To: "David Ross" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 10:53:54 +0100 Reply-To: "Geoff Hogan" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Dr. Geoffrey Hogan's Registered PMMail 1.9 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: direct cable connection issue Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On this CDLink utility: Does anyone have any experience with using the client under OS/2 v3 (presumably in a DOS session). I understand that Interlnk (client) will run under OS/2, but requires booting a DOS session using a DOS image - does CDLink require anything like this? Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr G P Hogan Laser Group, Clarendon Lab., Tel: +44 1865 272205 Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PU Fax: +44 1865 272400 UK Email: g.hogan@physics.ox.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 6 08:37:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA236446221; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:37:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20174; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:32:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:25:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19103; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:25:34 -0500 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19082; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:25:29 -0500 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA18075 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:25:24 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA855242724; Thu, 06 Feb 97 07:20:58 CST Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 07:20:58 CST Encoding: 3 Text Message-Id: <9701068552.AA855242724@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Error code 8611 on TP750C Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anybody know what the error code 08611 is on a 750C? Couldn't find it in the book. Is there a place on the web that lists the error codes such as these? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 6 09:08:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA240928130; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:08:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23644; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:02:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:57:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22832; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:57:04 -0500 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22825; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:56:59 -0500 Received: from CLAUDIA ([129.126.232.4]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA14474 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:55:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199702061355.AA14474@kodakr.kodak.com> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:05:00 -0500 From: "King, Randall" Subject: RE: Error code 8611 on TP750C To: emr , thinkpad X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The documentation says it is a trackpoint error. For more info look at IBM's new ON-LINE HMM manual! Woohoo! The URL is: http://www.pc.ibm.com/cdt/hmm.html#mobile RK ---------- >From: emr >To: thinkpad >Subject: Error code 8611 on TP750C >Date: Thursday, February 06, 1997 7:20AM > > Anybody know what the error code 08611 is on a 750C? > Couldn't find it in the book. Is there a place on the web that lists > the error codes such as these? > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 6 09:53:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA247290838; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:53:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28580; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:47:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:40:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27807; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:40:50 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27789; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:40:43 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-5 #9830) id <01IF360D24VK90NPMG@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 07:40:39 MST Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 07:31:43 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Error code 8611 on TP750C In-Reply-To: "Message dated Thu, 06 Feb 1997 07:20:58 -0600 (CST)" <9701068552.AA855242724@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IF36DEY1NA90NPMG@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Anybody know what the error code 08611 is on a 750C? This is a pointing device error when the TrackPoint II is enabled. IBM's hardware maintenace manual says to first try reseating the TP-II cable at the interposer card. That is the left-most cable as you view the computer from the front as if you were typing, it's under the cover just above the keyboard. If that doesn't work they suggest replacing the keyboard. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 6 10:02:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA248641353; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:02:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29711; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:53:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:47:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28645; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:47:43 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28616; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:47:34 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id JAA24349 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA4599; Thu, 06 Feb 97 09:44:00 -0800 Message-Id: <9702061744.AA4599@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 1EE7E26E58C48428852564360050484D; Thu, 6 Feb 97 09:43:54 EDT To: emr Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 6 Feb 97 9:40:57 EDT Subject: Re: Error code 8611 on TP750C X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "... Anybody know what the error code 08611 is on a 750C? Couldn't find it in the book. Is there a place on the web that lists the error codes such as these? ..." ~~~~~ from the hardware maintenance manual: 861x (pointing device error when the trackpoint II is enabled) 1. reseat the keyboard trackpoint II cable at the interposer card 2. keyboard 3. external mouse 4. system board Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . First say to yourself what you would be, then do what you have to do. -Epictetus From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 6 10:53:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA256384438; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:53:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06651; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:41:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:34:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05757; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:34:13 -0500 Received: from edelweb.fr ([193.51.12.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05709; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:33:52 -0500 Received: from champagne.edelweb.fr (champagne.edelweb.fr [193.51.14.161]) by edelweb.fr with ESMTP id QAA07542 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:31:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from lanson.gctech.edelweb.fr (lanson.gctech.edelweb.fr [193.51.14.6]) by champagne.edelweb.fr (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA22876 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:31:15 +0100 Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by lanson.gctech.edelweb.fr (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA15146 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:31:15 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:31:14 +0100 (MET) From: Ben X-Sender: ben@lanson.gctech.edelweb.fr To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Easy-Serv Number Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone have a non-800 number for EAsy Serv? I'm going to be in the US for a couple of days in March and I'd like to have the box already waiting for me when I get there. Thanks Ben. ____ Ben Samman.................................................ben@edelweb.fr Paris, France Illudium Q36 Explosive Space Modulator From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 6 11:36:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA263426975; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:36:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11318; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:24:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:16:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10262; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:16:28 -0500 Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10217; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:15:50 -0500 Received: from falkor (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2-biteme) with SMTP id KAA16162 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:15:26 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199702061615.KAA16162@Kitten.mcs.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ron Heiby" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:14:43 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: direct cable connection issue Reply-To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > However, this won't work for large-scale installation of an OS or > programs from a CDROM onto a CD-less machine Correct. I was picking up on the "if all you want to do is transfer files" line when making my comment. BTW, my printer ports are kinda tied up talking to printers, so I don't have much use for printer port file transfer. One of these days, I suspect that I will be getting Ethernet cards for my notebook and desktop PCs. At that point, I might be tempted to say something about ECP ports being "so slow". :-) More seriously, is there a good way to use my one and only printer port for *both* printing and cheap networking? The best I have been able to come up with calls for adding a second printer port to my desktop and routing all of my print jobs through it. If I'm going to give up one of my *very few* remaining IRQs and a slot, I'd rather it be an Ethernet card. -- Ron. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 6 13:00:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA280362007; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:00:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21028; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:49:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:39:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19918; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:39:09 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19890; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:39:01 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id MAA01952 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:35:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA4943; Thu, 06 Feb 97 12:35:14 -0800 Message-Id: <9702062035.AA4943@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 20458DD14588F22885256436005E8F8D; Thu, 6 Feb 97 12:35:12 EDT To: ben Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 6 Feb 97 12:31:43 EDT Subject: Re: Easy-Serv Number X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ok, here's the deal: there is no number for ezserv other than the 800 number. there is an international number (800-426-4968), but they only support the *non-u.s.* hardware. ezserv won't talk to you anyway, unless you have a lena case (lena is the pc company helpcenter software), so you have to call the helpcenter to document the problem before you can call ezserv. now... the u.s. helpcenter *also* does not have a number other than their 800 number (800-772-2227). that's because they, like ezserv, only support u.s. hardware. they are aware, however, that u.s. hardware travels outside the country, so they offer (for a fee, of course) an 'international warranty' on u.s. thinkpads so that you can get support for them at the *international* helpcenter. further, even if you went through the helpcenter and got a lena case, u.s. ezserv will not accept a thinkpad shipped from outside the country (something about liability and customs). you'd have to ship it to someone in the u.s., who could then ship it to ezserv. ezserv reccommends: ship the thinkpad to someone in the u.s. and have them go through the u.s. helpcenter & ezserv. helpcenter reccommends: buy the international warranty and go through the international helpcenter & ezserv. "solutions for a small planet" Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . First say to yourself what you would be, then do what you have to do. -Epictetus From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 6 15:29:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA007860947; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:29:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06409; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:23:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:17:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05833; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:17:11 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05827; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:17:08 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id PAA10939 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:13:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA5344; Thu, 06 Feb 97 15:13:33 -0800 Message-Id: <9702062313.AA5344@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id C3D8657DC008383585256436006B3279; Thu, 6 Feb 97 15:13:32 EDT To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 6 Feb 97 15:13:20 EDT Subject: Re: Easy-Serv Number X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu there is one other possibility. the helpcenter is in building 203. 919-517-0000 is the building 203 lobby. the receptionist can transfer you to the control desk. the control desk can transfer you to the thinkpad group. now, i can't promise you that the receptionist *will* transfer you to the control desk, but if you can talk her into it, she can get you there. you'd still have to bounce the laptop through someone in the states to get it to ezserv, but at least you'll have a lena case number for them. this email will self-destruct in five seconds... Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . First say to yourself what you would be, then do what you have to do. -Epictetus From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 6 16:36:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA025764969; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:36:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13800; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:29:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:23:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13159; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:23:55 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13144; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:23:47 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA29622; Thu, 6 Feb 97 11:23:21 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA16406; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:24:03 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199702062124.LAA16406@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: direct cable connection issue To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us Date: Thu, 6 Feb 97 11:24:01 HST Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199702061615.KAA16162@Kitten.mcs.com>; from "Ron Heiby" at Feb 6, 97 10:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > More seriously, is there a good way to use my one and only printer > port for *both* printing and cheap networking? You might try an IEEE 1284-compliant parallel port auto switch, though I expect that network performance will seriously degrade when printing (or even when not printing!) I use my sole port for several things, but never simultaneously so a cheapie manual switch works for me. - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 6 17:03:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA032896591; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:03:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16768; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:51:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:46:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16011; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:46:53 -0500 Received: from ts1.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16003; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:46:50 -0500 Received: from ericgile (port12.netpathway.com [208.137.139.27]) by ts1.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA18650 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:46:51 -0600 Message-Id: <32FA50DB.436C@netpathway.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 15:44:59 -0600 From: Eric Giles X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP760ED and SelectaDock II Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am considering getting a SelectaDock II to use with my 760ED. I was wondering if anyone has this unit, and can relate any experiences or issues that they have had. One of the main reasons I need it is to be able to install a 3.5" hard drive in the SelectaDock and the 760 to boot from this drive. I think that this is possible, and IBM says that it is, but I would like some personal experiences with this. I am using Win95, by the way. Thanks for your help-- Eric Giles From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 6 23:27:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA107299663; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:27:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23161; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:24:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:18:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22584; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:18:23 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22572; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:18:18 -0500 Received: from user-37kb97d.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb97d.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.237]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA25494; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:17:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199702070417.XAA25494@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Eric Giles" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 23:17:55 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP760ED and SelectaDock II Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If you check the startup seq in setup (F1 on boot) you will see that you can select FDD2, that is the one in the dock. I havn't tryed it myself. On Thu, 06 Feb 1997 15:44:59 -0600, Eric Giles wrote: >I am considering getting a SelectaDock II to use with my 760ED. I was >wondering if anyone has this unit, and can relate any experiences or >issues that they have had. One of the main reasons I need it is to be >able to install a 3.5" hard drive in the SelectaDock and the 760 to boot >from this drive. I think that this is possible, and IBM says that it is, >but I would like some personal experiences with this. I am using Win95, >by the way. > >Thanks for your help-- > >Eric Giles jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 7 02:53:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA151212022; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:53:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08907; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:52:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:48:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08607; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:48:40 -0500 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08598; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:48:37 -0500 Received: from marie-kiyoi (ppp-206-170-4-31.wnck11.pacbell.net [206.170.4.31]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA29068 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:48:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <32FADDDB.B34@pacbell.net> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 23:46:35 -0800 From: Marie & Terry Kiyoi X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PBWE (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: WTB manual 755cx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Wanted to buy- anyones extra copy (or good quality photocopy) of Thinkpad 755cx users manual. Got a great system, little idea how to use it! thanx jeff blitzin@pacbell.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 7 14:43:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA257314592; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 14:43:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25296; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 14:37:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 7 Feb 1997 14:25:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23601; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 14:25:55 -0500 Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23571; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 14:25:42 -0500 Received: from faraday.clas.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa19721; 7 Feb 97 14:22 EST Received: (from jlh2r@localhost) by faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (8.7.6/8.6.6) id OAA397922 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 14:22:55 -0500 From: John-Lee Pratt Holmes Message-Id: <199702071922.OAA397922@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU> Subject: Is this a 760 hard drive? To: thinkpad Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 14:22:55 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I purchased a hard drive ($335) from Bason corp. and a case ($50) from PS Solutions recently. I believe the drive may be a thinkpad 760 ** 1.2 gig (DPRA 21215, p/n 85G3669, FRU p/n 39H2214 ** were listed on the drive itself) and the case is to fit a 360/750/755. These were fitted, successfully, into a Thinkpad 355. I *had been* convinced that the 760 wouldn't work in the 355 because it has a different master-slave select and uses a PCI bus as opposed to the older ISA. But a technician at PS Solutions convinced me that these things do not matter when going from newer to older -- although the reverse is not the case (i.e. you would have trouble fitting a 755 hd into a 760 if I understand her correctly). 3 Questions: 1. Can any 760 owners confirm that the model no. and p/n(s) above match their 1.2 g hard drives. I know of one person who was trying to sell his 1.2 after he upgraded to 2.1 and so this would be of interest to you (to the tune of around $300). I didn't purchase his because I was convincedit wouldn't work and only bought the one from Bason because their staff was either unwilling or unable to look up the part no. for me which is printed, of course, right on an ibm drive (they didn't know, for example, the standard ##L#### sequence of IBM parts). 2. Does it sound right that the different master-slave id and bus architecture do not matter when using a 760 hard drive in a 355 machine? Or will I encounter some as-yet-unknown problem down the road? 3. Has anyone dealt with the Bason company before. I am sorry to say that the few individuals from that company with whom I spoke did not sound terribly competent, although I dealt mostly with sales people. PC Solutions, by contrast, seemed to have very knowledge- able personnel. But is Bason a company I can trust? They advertise in major mags, like PC Magazine and Computer Shopper. Thanks. -- jlph John Lee Pratt Holmes Graduate Student, Dept. of Government and Foreign Affairs Univ. of Virginia 319 Alderman Road Charlottesville, VA 22903 (H) 804-977-0016 (W) 924-7969 (The Rotunda) (O) 980-8526 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 7 15:20:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA263736801; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:20:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29797; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:16:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:11:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29172; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:11:29 -0500 Received: from netcom4.netcom.com (phr@netcom4.netcom.com [192.100.81.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29133; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:11:20 -0500 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom4.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id MAA20552; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:11:14 -0800 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:11:14 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199702072011.MAA20552@netcom4.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: wtb manual 755cx Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You can order them from IBM. Call tech support for info. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 8 12:42:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA143143772; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 12:42:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18143; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 12:38:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Feb 1997 12:32:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17804; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 12:32:38 -0500 Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (root@access.mbnet.mb.ca [130.179.16.143]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17796; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 12:32:31 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ts4m-7.mbnet.mb.ca [204.112.178.58]) by access.mbnet.mb.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA23076 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:32:20 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <32FCD5DF.C6@mbnet.mb.ca> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 11:37:03 -0800 From: Jason Savage Reply-To: Jason_Savage@mbnet.mb.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: IBM Part # for 701 Preload CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks to all for passing along the information I requested. Unfortunately, Easy-Serve's US 1-800 number doesn't work up here in Canada and Easy-Serve Canada tells me that they won't sell Preload CDs to either end-users or resellers (I work for one). The only way I can reload my unit is if I send in the unit to them and they will reload it for me. They will only do one free reload and from then on they will charge me $75Can for each subsequent reload. Ouch! This makes little sense to me because as far as I can tell there is no difference between the US and Canadian models. My model number is 2630-7TC which I believe is the exact same model number used on the equivalent US unit. If any one knows of any differences between the US and Canadian Models; I would greatly appreciate hearing about them. Otherwise, I will post a WTB for one such CD on the List. Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Jason Savage Savage@MBnet.MB.CA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 8 13:09:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA146205350; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:09:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19969; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:06:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:02:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19652; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:02:48 -0500 Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (root@access.mbnet.mb.ca [130.179.16.143]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19646; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:02:40 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ts4m-7.mbnet.mb.ca [204.112.178.58]) by access.mbnet.mb.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA26585; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 12:02:24 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <32FCDCA4.8F7@mbnet.mb.ca> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 12:05:56 -0800 From: Jason Savage Reply-To: Jason_Savage@mbnet.mb.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Lewis Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: New 701c owner References: <3.0.32.19970129222244.006957d0@popserv.wolfenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello Peter, The 701 factory shipped with DOS/Win3.11 only (DX2-50 models) or Dual Boot - DOS/Win3.11 and OS/2 2.0 (DX4-75 models). There is, to my knowledge, no preload Win95 CD. As for the manual, it is an on-line book (Win 3.11 app) under the ThinkPad folder. If you can't find it on your unit (the previous owner probably did an fdisk and did a fresh Win95 install [leads to a more stable Win95]) here are the definitions of the Fn-F# keys. Fn-F1: System Setup or BIOS Fn-F2: Battery Gauge Fn-F3: Enable Standby Mode Fn-F4: Enable Suspend Mode Fn-F5: Disable Speaker Fn-F6: Disable Hard Drive Fn-F7: Toggle between LCD, CRT or both Fn-F8: Toggle between Normal and Reverse Video Fn-F12: Enable Hibernate Mode Fn-Ins: Increase Contrast (701CS only) Fn-Del: Decrease Contrast (701CS only) Fn-Home: Increase Brightness Fn-End: Decrease Brightess Fn-PgUp: Increase Volume Fn-PgDn: Decrease Volume To Wake up the unit from suspend mode press the Fn key. I hope this helps you out. Peter Lewis wrote: > The ThinkPad appears to be in good shape, though I lack some of the > original documentation. I have visited > > but that has limited info. I'm looking for more of a manual that tells, for > example, about what the "fn" keys do. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 8 14:00:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA153208456; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:00:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22417; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:57:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:52:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22102; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:52:48 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22093; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:52:41 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id NAA20164; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:55:53 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:55:53 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: Jason Savage Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: IBM Part # for 701 Preload CD In-Reply-To: <32FCD5DF.C6@mbnet.mb.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Saturday, 8th February 1997, Jason Savage wrote: > [The Easy-Serve Canada policy on not selling preload CDs] makes little > sense to me because as far as I can tell there is no difference between > the US and Canadian models. My model number is 2630-7TC which I believe > is the exact same model number used on the equivalent US unit. If any > one knows of any differences between the US and Canadian Models; I would > greatly appreciate hearing about them. The US model number is 2630-7TU. Offhand, I'd guess that the only difference between them might be the keyboard, hardware-wise (if even that). I suppose that you'd get software with US spellings (e.g. favor vs. favour) if you were to load from the US preload CD. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 8 14:08:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA153658895; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:08:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23030; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:05:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:01:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22761; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:01:30 -0500 Received: from chelsea.ios.com (root@chelsea.ios.com [198.4.75.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22742; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:01:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (ingerman@localhost) by chelsea.ios.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA12622 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:01:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:01:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark M. Ingerman" X-Sender: ingerman@chelsea.ios.com To: Thinkpad Forum Subject: Win95 - backup/restore Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I know this is not a Win95 forum, but I have a question. I recently purchased a 2.1 Gb drive for my thinpad. I would like to set it up for dual boot w/Win95 on one partiion and OS/2 on the other. No problem. I would however, like to preserve my existing installation of Win95. I have finally got the computer configured the way I want it. I tried dumping the contents of my old drive on my docking station and back onto the new drive. The problem is the Win95 somehow knows that I have changed hard drives and reconfigures the desktop, and some of the configuration. Is there anyway to out smart it? Surely, there must be a way to backup and restore Win95 into a different drive without having to start all over. Any help would be appreciated. Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. ingerman@cs2.com (508) 394-4266 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 8 15:06:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA162402418; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:06:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28549; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:02:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:54:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27808; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:54:35 -0500 Received: from wolfe.net (mail1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27801; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:54:30 -0500 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com (sea-ts1-p14.wolfenet.com [204.157.98.68]) by wolfe.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id LAA03410; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:56:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970208115418.006a40d8@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: pele@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 11:54:20 -0800 To: Jason_Savage@mbnet.mb.ca, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: Re: New 701c owner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi Jason: Thanks for your response. I shall prinout the fn key list you provided for handy reference. I bet there are others on the mail list who, like me, don't have complete documentation and appreciate the info. Perhaps you or others can enlighten me on another subject. At: http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/sys701.html I downloaded to update the flash bios. I copied that file to a diskette (after changing the config utility on page 2 from "hard disk" to "smart" or "conventional" per the instructions). I can hear the TP try to go to the a:drive. But it doesn't get far before reporting "Invalid system disk. Replace the disk, and then press any key." Any clues here? Thanks in advance for any light any of you can shed on this. Peter At 12:05 PM 2/8/97 -0800, you wrote: >Hello Peter, > > The 701 factory shipped with DOS/Win3.11 only (DX2-50 models) or Dual >Boot - DOS/Win3.11 and OS/2 2.0 (DX4-75 models). There is, to my >knowledge, no preload Win95 CD. As for the manual, it is an on-line >book (Win 3.11 app) under the ThinkPad folder. If you can't find it on >your unit (the previous owner probably did an fdisk and did a fresh >Win95 install [leads to a more stable Win95]) here are the definitions >of the Fn-F# keys. >Fn-F1: System Setup or BIOS >Fn-F2: Battery Gauge >Fn-F3: Enable Standby Mode >Fn-F4: Enable Suspend Mode >Fn-F5: Disable Speaker >Fn-F6: Disable Hard Drive >Fn-F7: Toggle between LCD, CRT or both >Fn-F8: Toggle between Normal and Reverse Video >Fn-F12: Enable Hibernate Mode >Fn-Ins: Increase Contrast (701CS only) >Fn-Del: Decrease Contrast (701CS only) >Fn-Home: Increase Brightness >Fn-End: Decrease Brightess >Fn-PgUp: Increase Volume >Fn-PgDn: Decrease Volume > >To Wake up the unit from suspend mode press the Fn key. I hope this >helps you out. > > >Peter Lewis wrote: > >> The ThinkPad appears to be in good shape, though I lack some of the >> original documentation. I have visited >> >> but that has limited info. I'm looking for more of a manual that tells, for >> example, about what the "fn" keys do. > > -- _ ____ ___ / / ___ / __ \/ _ \ / / / _ \ / /_/ / __// / / __/ / .___/\___//_/ \___/ /_/ Peter Lewis pele@wolfenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 8 15:17:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA165603063; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:17:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29510; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:13:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:08:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29028; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:08:24 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29022; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:08:20 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id HAA22619; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 07:08:11 +1100 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) id HAA00677; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 07:08:09 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 07:08:03 +1100 (EST) To: Neil Ripston Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CD-I Movies on Thinkpad 760ED In-Reply-To: <32E99B23.3F45@internetmci.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu only problem i have is that i have no sound. would have been nice if ibm had included the mwave stuff for audio. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, Neil Ripston wrote: > Anybody had any luck playing CD-I movies on the Tpad 760ED? Just got > naked un 2 1/2 on CD-I and my ED doesn't recognize the disk is in the > drive. The unit plays Mpeg movies fine. Anybody have any experience > out there? > > Thanks, > > Neil Ripston > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 8 15:58:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA172385511; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:58:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02611; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:54:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:49:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02176; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:49:21 -0500 Received: from SNEEZY.USU.EDU (sneezy.usu.edu [129.123.1.87]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02166; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:49:17 -0500 Received: from slppj.usu.edu (asy08.xy1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IF6BSN50E890XASL@cc.usu.edu>; Sat, 08 Feb 1997 13:48:53 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 13:47:40 -0700 From: Greg Alvandian Subject: Re: New 701c owner To: Peter Lewis Cc: Jason_Savage@mbnet.mb.ca, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <32FCE66C.3FE7@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3.0.32.19970208115418.006a40d8@popserv.wolfenet.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Perhaps you or others can enlighten me on another subject. At: > http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/sys701.html > > I downloaded to update the flash bios. I copied that file to > a diskette (after changing the config utility on page 2 from "hard disk" to > "smart" or "conventional" per the instructions). I can hear the TP try to > go to the a:drive. But it doesn't get far before reporting "Invalid system > disk. Replace the disk, and then press any key." > > Any clues here? > As I recall, the file sys7013o.exe is a self expanding file. You need to unarchive its contents to the floppy disk first. I think you just need to doublr click the file to do this. Then you can follow the instructions for upgrading. I believe they are at the same place you got the sys7013O.exe file. Greg A. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 8 17:30:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA183141053; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:30:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09852; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:26:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:20:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09144; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:20:41 -0500 Received: from pop.sneaker.net (pop.sneaker.net [139.167.130.142]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09126; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:20:37 -0500 Received: (from kenyee@localhost) by pop.sneaker.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA22754; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:20:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:20:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199702082220.RAA22754@pop.sneaker.net> From: Ken Yee To: ingerman@chelsea.ios.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: (ingerman@chelsea.ios.com) Subject: Re: Win95 - backup/restore Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I would however, like to preserve my existing installation of Win95. I > have finally got the computer configured the way I want it. I tried Get a copy of Partition Magic. Resize the first partition to keep Win95, and install OS/2 on d:. It worked pretty well. ken ================================================================= kenyee@keysolutions.com http://www.keysolutions.com KEY Enterprise Solutions Custom Windows, OS/2, Notes, Internet Development and Integration Visit the Lotus Notes FAQ: http://www.keysolutions.com/NotesFAQ/ 58 Chandler St. Boston, MA 02116 (617)338-6933 (617)423-2399 (fax) ================================================================= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 8 19:16:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA194157395; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:16:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16796; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:13:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:08:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16469; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:08:09 -0500 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16463; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:08:06 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu (yu1.yu.edu [129.98.200.100]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA08279; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:07:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA35264; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:06:10 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:06:10 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof To: Ben Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Easy-Serv Number In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Instead of 800 dial 880 from overseas with the same last 7 digits and you should reach them. On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Ben wrote: > Does anyone have a non-800 number for EAsy Serv? I'm going to be in the > US for a couple of days in March and I'd like to have the box already > waiting for me when I get there. > > Thanks > > Ben. > ____ > Ben Samman.................................................ben@edelweb.fr > Paris, France Illudium Q36 Explosive Space Modulator > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 8 22:10:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA211137818; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 22:10:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27115; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 22:07:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 8 Feb 1997 22:02:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26705; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 22:02:04 -0500 Received: from wolfe.net (mail1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26699; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 22:01:59 -0500 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com (sea-ts3-p36.wolfenet.com [204.157.98.218]) by wolfe.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id TAA15948; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:03:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970208190151.00694cac@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: pele@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 19:01:53 -0800 To: slppj@cc.usu.edu, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: Re: New 701c owner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks, I finally figured that you have to extract the .exe before updating the BIOS. I guess more experienced users just "know" this stuff. I wish instructions made next to no assumptions about a user's knowledge. Here's another issue I'm looking for help on...I posted earlier re my desire to find a cheap option to access my desktop CD from the 701. Another mail list subscriber suggested CDLink, available at: www.singnet.com.sg/~storage/cdlink.htm I know others (David Ross for one) have reported success w/this, but I'm having trouble. If it makes any difference, I've got Win95 running on both the desktop & and laptop. CDLink's instructions call for adding lines to autoexec.bat and config.sys, both of which are basically irrelevant files in Win95, as far as I can tell. I nonetheless modified both files and otherwise followed the readme. CDSERVE comes up fine on the desktop, but the laptop still doesn't see the desktop's CD-ROM. CDLink's instructions call for running Win95 in "real" mode. What the heck is "real" mode? Safe mode? Normal mode? There is no "real" mode option pressing F8 on bootup before Win95 launches. My first choice would be to use direct cable connection, but that's not an option at this point because the previous owner didn't install it into the accessories group. I tried copying "directcc.exe" (direct cable connection) onto the laptop in c:\windows. But when I tried to launch it the laptop reported the direct cable connection wasn't installed, and directed me to control panel's add/remove program. There, Win95 is looking for an installation program. Dunno what my next move should be. Any help? Thanks. At 01:47 PM 2/8/97 -0700, you wrote: >> Perhaps you or others can enlighten me on another subject. At: >> http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/sys701.html >> >> I downloaded to update the flash bios. I copied that file to >> a diskette (after changing the config utility on page 2 from "hard disk" to >> "smart" or "conventional" per the instructions). I can hear the TP try to >> go to the a:drive. But it doesn't get far before reporting "Invalid system >> disk. Replace the disk, and then press any key." >> >> Any clues here? >> >As I recall, the file sys7013o.exe is a self expanding file. You need >to unarchive its contents to the floppy disk first. I think you just >need to doublr click the file to do this. Then you can follow the >instructions for upgrading. I believe they are at the same place you >got the sys7013O.exe file. >Greg A. > > -- _ ____ ___ / / ___ / __ \/ _ \ / / / _ \ / /_/ / __// / / __/ / .___/\___//_/ \___/ /_/ Peter Lewis pele@wolfenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 9 03:46:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA249428010; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:46:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17782; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:42:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:38:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17505; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:38:32 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu ([128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17494; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:38:28 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA07356; Sat, 8 Feb 97 22:38:25 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA20326; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 22:39:08 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199702090839.WAA20326@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: New 701c owner To: pele@wolfenet.com (Peter Lewis) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 97 22:39:07 HST Cc: slppj@cc.usu.edu, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970208190151.00694cac@popserv.wolfenet.com>; from "Peter Lewis" at Feb 8, 97 7:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I know others (David Ross for one) have reported success w/this, but I'm > having trouble. If it makes any difference, I've got Win95 running on both > the desktop & and laptop. CDLink's instructions call for adding lines to > autoexec.bat and config.sys, both of which are basically irrelevant files > in Win95, as far as I can tell. I nonetheless modified both files and > otherwise followed the readme. CDSERVE comes up fine on the desktop, but > the laptop still doesn't see the desktop's CD-ROM. This should be working - I used the identical config to install W95's direct cable connection this morning. First make sure that your laptop parallel port is correctly configured (pref. as ECP), and that it has different IRQ and DMA than other devices you have active (like the modem and sound cards). Next, make sure the commands in config.sys and autoexec.bat point to the right place (note that for Win95, mscdex.exe is actually in windows\command). Try booting first into DOS (using the F8 interrupt) - this way you'll know if the command files are loading properly. BTW, I haven't yet decided which is slower, CDLINK or the W95 direct connect utility, but I *do* know that the former is terribly slow - the TP uses the 6x CD like a 1.5x drive, according to my testing. This is over the ECP port, which in theory should transfer data at 8x rates. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 9 05:02:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA256872570; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 05:02:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24534; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 05:00:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:56:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24232; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:56:15 -0500 Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk (mercury.ukc.ac.uk [129.12.21.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24223; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:56:12 -0500 Received: from merlin.ukc.ac.uk by mercury.ukc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sun, 9 Feb 1997 09:55:41 +0000 Received: from slip1d81.ukc.ac.uk by merlin.ukc.ac.uk (4.1/UKC-2.14) id AA26432; Sun, 9 Feb 97 09:55:37 GMT Message-Id: <32FDA40E.2B47@ukc.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 10:16:46 +0000 From: Angus Hewlett Reply-To: afh1@ukc.ac.uk Organization: Amulet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Lewis Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New 701c owner References: <3.0.32.19970208190151.00694cac@popserv.wolfenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Peter Lewis wrote: > > Thanks, I finally figured that you have to extract the .exe before updating > the BIOS. I guess more experienced users just "know" this stuff. I wish > instructions made next to no assumptions about a user's knowledge. > > Here's another issue I'm looking for help on...I posted earlier re my > desire to find a cheap option to access my desktop CD from the 701. Another > mail list subscriber suggested CDLink, available at: > www.singnet.com.sg/~storage/cdlink.htm > > I know others (David Ross for one) have reported success w/this, but I'm > having trouble. If it makes any difference, I've got Win95 running on both > the desktop & and laptop. CDLink's instructions call for adding lines to > autoexec.bat and config.sys, both of which are basically irrelevant files > in Win95, as far as I can tell. I nonetheless modified both files and > otherwise followed the readme. CDSERVE comes up fine on the desktop, but > the laptop still doesn't see the desktop's CD-ROM. > > CDLink's instructions call for running Win95 in "real" mode. What the heck > is "real" mode? Safe mode? Normal mode? There is no "real" mode option > pressing F8 on bootup before Win95 launches. > > My first choice would be to use direct cable connection, but that's not an > option at this point because the previous owner didn't install it into the > accessories group. I tried copying "directcc.exe" (direct cable connection) > onto the laptop in c:\windows. > > But when I tried to launch it the laptop reported the direct cable > connection wasn't installed, and directed me to control panel's add/remove > program. There, Win95 is looking for an installation program. Dunno what my > next move should be. > > Any help? > > Thanks. > What you'll have to do here (and it can be a bit of a nightmare), is choose 'install Direct Cable Connection' from the Control Panel, and as it prompts you for each installation file, choose Browse. Then copy the relevant file from your desktop/Win95 CD to a floppy, put this in the laptop and point it to the file. It will then prompt you again, for the next file, and you'll have to repeat the procedure. I've had to install several Win95 components that way - I deleted the preinstall files (CAB files) as I was short on disk space. If anyone knows a quicker way than this, could they let us know? Hope this helps, Angus From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 9 07:27:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA271151247; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 07:27:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08076; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 07:25:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Feb 1997 07:20:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07779; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 07:20:01 -0500 Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07772; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 07:19:53 -0500 Received: from default (phx-az3-05.ix.netcom.com [199.35.219.101]) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA00596 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:19:19 -0800 Message-Id: <199702091219.EAA00596@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John Carmody" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 05:19:20 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Mwave and Midi files Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I use an IBM 760ED with Windows 95. Recently, I tried a popular Netscape plugin designed to play Midi files from web pages. The versions are Netscape (g32e301p.exe) and Crescendo (c30n95g1.exe). PROBLEM: no audio! My IBM 760ED plays midi files beautifully in all instances except while connected to the web. Several other Thinkkpad users of the Crescendo product have indicated that they understand Mwave is not designed interpret midi files from web pages. Is there anyone in this group that would happen to know? Thanks, -- John Carmody E-mail: oam@ix.netcom.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 9 08:20:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA276114399; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:19:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10745; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:11:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:06:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10398; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:06:25 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10376; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:06:20 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-5 #9830) id <01IF79N8HLO090O9QI@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:06:15 MST Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 06:01:07 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Mwave and Midi files In-Reply-To: "Message dated Sun, 09 Feb 1997 05:19:20 +0000" <199702091219.EAA00596@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IF79XG7YUU90O9QI@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Several other Thinkkpad users of the Crescendo > product have indicated that they understand Mwave is not designed > interpret midi files from web pages. The problem is it can't run the modem and midi at the same time. If you use a PCMCIA or external modem it works fine. Or a direct net connection... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 9 08:49:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA279126190; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:49:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13120; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:46:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:41:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12588; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:41:02 -0500 Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk (mercury.ukc.ac.uk [129.12.21.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12578; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:40:57 -0500 Received: from merlin.ukc.ac.uk by mercury.ukc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:40:30 +0000 Received: from slip1d81.ukc.ac.uk by merlin.ukc.ac.uk (4.1/UKC-2.14) id AA00905; Sun, 9 Feb 97 13:40:28 GMT Message-Id: <32FDD8C1.4678@ukc.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 14:01:37 +0000 From: Angus Hewlett Reply-To: afh1@ukc.ac.uk Organization: Amulet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: WTD: Hard drive case Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Just wondering if anyone has a spare/cheap HARD DRIVE CASE+ADAPTER for a TP755. I don't need the drive itself - just the case. Or, failing that, a case with a low-capacity drive left over from an upgrade. I don't have much to spend. I'm in the UK, so if you here or in Europe generally, so much the better. Cheers, Angus From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 9 18:12:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA054999953; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 18:12:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26217; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 18:09:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Feb 1997 18:02:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25373; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 18:02:57 -0500 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25366; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 18:02:55 -0500 Received: from Pblaineji (whale.execpc.com [169.207.9.76]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id RAA13614 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 17:02:52 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970209170551.015304e8@mail.execpc.com> X-Sender: blaineji@mail.execpc.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 17:05:54 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: James Blaine Subject: ThinkPad and NT 4.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello; Can someone help me uderstand what is needed to connect my IBM ThinkPad to Windows NT Workstation 4.0 is a null modem cable the only cost effective option? Thanks in advance, JB blaineji@execpc.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 9 19:40:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA066675200; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:40:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02929; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:38:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:33:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02504; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:33:12 -0500 Received: from hupa.snfc21.pbi.net (hupa.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02497; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:33:07 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-117-177.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.117.177]) by hupa.snfc21.pbi.net (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA18307 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 16:32:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702100032.QAA18307@hupa.snfc21.pbi.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: Re: Caddy for TP760? Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 16:34:14 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well the review of the slim 760 hard drive caddy is in. I received mine last week. The slimline 1.3GB Toshiba drive fit in the enclosure with a little coaxing. The enclosure is pressed from thin metal of some sort and appears to be of good quality. The cable connecting to the drive doesn't attach to the master/slave pins, so you could set a jumper if you like. Since the normal bay is a master and the ultrabay is a slave, you would have to open the case and change the jumper every time you switched. After everything was assembled, I couldn't get it to physically fit into my TP760E. It appeared to be close, but I didn't want to force it. Next, I tried to put it into a TP755 and it worked just fine. Luckily, I knew someone who needed such a drive for a TP755 so I sold it to them. PS Solutions said said future units would be modified in manufacturing so they might work better. If anyone had better luck with these enclosures, please let me know. > > > You're not going to believe this, but I just walked in the door from bying > > > a caddie for my 760L. > > > I got it from PS Solutions, Inc (972)783-6996. > > > > I spoke with Jerome at PS Solutions and they have a model for the > > thicker (i.e., CD ROM capable) TP760 and the thinner one. The caddy for > > the thinner TP wont be ready till Friday. I'll keep you updated. > > I called PS Solutions and placed my order. They promised it would ship > today. They said earlier it would cost $50, but they want $60 now. I > tell the list how well it works when I get it. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 9 21:40:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA082702442; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:40:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11824; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:38:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:35:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11531; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:35:47 -0500 Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11518; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:35:43 -0500 Received: from faraday.clas.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa16457; 9 Feb 97 21:35 EST Received: (from jlh2r@localhost) by faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (8.7.6/8.6.6) id VAA174546 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:35:37 -0500 From: John-Lee Pratt Holmes Message-Id: <199702100235.VAA174546@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU> Subject: Buying thinkpad cases To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:35:36 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" at Feb 9, 97 12:15:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I believe someone named Angus Hewlett from the UK asked about getting case/caddy for a thinkpad 355. If you can afford an overseas call on a non-800 line to Texas a good company which seems to thoroughly test their cases for compatability is PS solutions. They charge $50 plus shipping, tel. 972-783-6996, fax 972-783-6997 1800 N Glenville Dr. Suite 116 Richardson, TX 75081. They must have an email but it wasn't provided on the invoice I received. If I come across it, I'll re-send. -- jlph From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 9 21:48:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA083522891; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:48:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12485; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:46:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:44:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12211; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:44:01 -0500 Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12205; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:43:58 -0500 Received: from faraday.clas.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa19233; 9 Feb 97 21:43 EST Received: (from jlh2r@localhost) by faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (8.7.6/8.6.6) id VAA445882 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:43:54 -0500 From: John-Lee Pratt Holmes Message-Id: <199702100243.VAA445882@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU> Subject: Caddy for tp755 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:43:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" at Feb 9, 97 12:15:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Another co. that I saw advertising caddies/cases for tp755 (don't know price) was called Portable Solutions and they listed an email: pepsale2@portables.com -- jlph From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 10 08:54:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA157782896; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:54:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11765; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:53:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:48:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11052; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:48:07 -0500 Received: from lotus.lotus.com (lotus.com [192.233.136.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11040; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:48:03 -0500 From: Received: from internet2.lotus.com by lotus.lotus.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA24463; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:44:01 -0500 Received: from mta2.lotus.com by internet2.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06891; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:40:33 -0500 Received: by mta2.lotus.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (305.4 1-15-1997)) id 8525643A.004BCE1B ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:47:59 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LOTUS@MTA To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <8525643A.004B7CE6.00@mta2.lotus.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:47:15 -0400 Subject: XF86Config for TP755CX 800x600 on TFT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone have one of these they could send me ??? Thanks in advance... -Bill From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 10 16:26:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA245789926; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:25:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14506; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:15:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:09:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13542; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:09:30 -0500 Received: from goldilocks.LCS.MIT.EDU (goldilocks.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13501; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:09:14 -0500 Received: from ursa-minor (ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu) by goldilocks.LCS.MIT.EDU (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA12962; Mon, 10 Feb 97 13:07:24 EST Sender: ilh@goldilocks.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <32FF63A5.32DC1BC0@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:06:29 -0500 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.25 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: XFree86 on 760E/ED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does XFree86 (in Linux) run on a 760E/ED? I run it on my 760C all the time, but I thought the 760E has a different chipset, and I was wondering if it is supported. If so, could someone send me their XF86Config file? Thanks in advance. -- Lee Hetherington ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 10 17:46:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA263784805; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:46:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15688; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:44:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:39:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15082; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:38:58 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15028; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:38:24 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA23175; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:44:16 -0700 Message-Id: <32FFA2B1.3017@wwsi.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:35:29 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Lee Hetherington Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: XFree86 on 760E/ED X-Priority: Normal References: <32FF63A5.32DC1BC0@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Lee, Yes, it does work. You might want to check the web pages on our server that discuss these. ssh -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 11 11:30:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA115568646; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:30:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24726; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:25:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:11:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23258; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:11:29 -0500 Received: from mtigwc01.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23216; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:11:18 -0500 Received: from worldnet.att.net.worldnet.att.net ([207.116.67.101]) by mtigwc01.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA3816 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:07:44 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970211110843.0069fc74@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: pforte@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:08:47 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Patrick Anthony Forte Subject: 701C Sound Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On a 701C, under Windows 95, has anyone been able to get the sound driver to work? I have wasted may hours loading the ESS ES688 Autodrive driver with very little success. ONE TIME, the sound recorder worked (under accessory, multimedia) but never again. Under the Device manager, the sound driver shows a yellow exclamation mark but there is not any conflict indicated. PLEASE HELP! Is there anyone I can pay to fix this problem? Thanks PATRICK pforte@worldnet.att.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 11 12:00:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA120780443; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:00:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28313; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:57:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:54:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27731; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:54:20 -0500 Received: from darcars.net (michael@darcars.net [207.153.85.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27694; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:53:53 -0500 Received: (from michael@localhost) by darcars.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11341; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:53:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:53:13 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Cummings To: Patrick Anthony Forte Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C Sound Problem In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970211110843.0069fc74@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well mine works fine so it is possible.(: The 1st thing I'd do is go into your bios setup and make sure all the settings match in all the user port settings screens. Mine read as follows; Stand Alone Audio System Settings Port 0x220, IRQ 10, DMA 3 MultiPort II Audio System Settings Port 0x220, IRQ 10, DMA 3 Dock III Audio System Settings Port 0x220, IRQ 10, DMA 3 Then go into the control panel entry for ESS688 Audio Drive and make sure the 1st i/o range listed matches your port settings (mine is 0220-022f). Also make the IRQ and DMA match your bios.. that should do it.. On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Patrick Anthony Forte wrote: > On a 701C, under Windows 95, has anyone been able to get the sound driver > to work? I have wasted may hours loading the ESS ES688 Autodrive driver > with very little success. ONE TIME, the sound recorder worked (under > accessory, multimedia) but never again. Under the Device manager, the > sound driver shows a yellow exclamation mark but there is not any conflict > indicated. PLEASE HELP! > > Is there anyone I can pay to fix this problem? Thanks > > PATRICK > pforte@worldnet.att.net > ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Cummings at home, feet up in | Washington, DC... Columbia, MD. Internet cummings@pobox.com | "A Radio Wasteland"... -------------------------------------------|---------------------------- Novell CNA/Pyramid OSx Systems Admin. |My other op-system is Linux! ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 11 12:17:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA123731411; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:16:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00750; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:14:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:10:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00392; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:10:44 -0500 Received: from bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (root@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca [199.185.130.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00343; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:10:26 -0500 Received: from remote442.compusmart.ab.ca (remote442.compusmart.ab.ca [206.75.85.159]) by bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (8.7.4/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA00297; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:03:30 -0700 (MST) Received: by remote442.compusmart.ab.ca with Microsoft Mail id <01BC1803.DB8AB380@remote442.compusmart.ab.ca>; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:10:50 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC1803.DB8AB380@remote442.compusmart.ab.ca> From: Lance Nichols To: "'Patrick Anthony Forte'" , "ThinkPad Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: RE: 701C Sound Problem Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:10:05 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I would suspect that you have a conflict happening with another one of = the hardware features the 701 offers. I have had no problems with the = setup and use of all of my ThinkPad's features, although there were a = couple of things I had to juggle to get the system working (like = disabling the IR. port while docked, etc.) If you could, E-mail me a copy of your configuration and I can try to = see where your problem is. Lance Nichols, Technical Support Analyst, CompuSmart Edmonton The views expressed here are entirely my own, and in no way reflect = those of my employer, unless specifically stated. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Anthony Forte [SMTP:pforte@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 1997 9:09 AM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701C Sound Problem On a 701C, under Windows 95, has anyone been able to get the sound = driver to work? I have wasted may hours loading the ESS ES688 Autodrive driver with very little success. ONE TIME, the sound recorder worked (under accessory, multimedia) but never again. Under the Device manager, the sound driver shows a yellow exclamation mark but there is not any = conflict indicated. PLEASE HELP! Is there anyone I can pay to fix this problem? Thanks PATRICK pforte@worldnet.att.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 11 18:11:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA215792670; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 18:11:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07078; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 18:03:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 11 Feb 1997 17:57:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06548; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 17:57:31 -0500 Received: from mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06529; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 17:57:26 -0500 Received: from worldnet.att.net.worldnet.att.net ([207.116.64.102]) by mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA24131 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:56:51 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970211175807.006aa584@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: pforte@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 17:58:11 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Patrick Anthony Forte Subject: Passwords Gone Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Who has a clue why my saved passwords, under Windows 95, would suddenly disappear? These were my ISP passwords that I now must type in each time I wish to connect to the internet. Any ideas? Thanks. Patrick pforte@worldnet.att.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 11 19:38:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA236167934; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:38:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15661; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:31:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:25:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15063; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:25:51 -0500 Received: from mail13.digital.com (mail13.digital.com [192.208.46.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15051; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:25:48 -0500 Received: from mrohub1.mro.dec.com by mail13.digital.com (8.7.5/UNX 1.5/1.0/WV) id TAA23034; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:16:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by mrohub1.mro.dec.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC1850.71B922A0@mrohub1.mro.dec.com>; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:19:04 -0500 Message-Id: From: Gary Henry To: "'Patrick Anthony Forte'" Cc: "'ThinkPad'" Subject: RE: Passwords Gone Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:17:19 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Patrick: There is a bug in Win95 that causes the passwords to get blown away. I believe it was introduced with the service pack. There is a fix on MSFT's Web site for the 'password' bug. To fix it, until it happens again or you get the patch, go to your c:\windows directory and sort the folder by type. looking for *.PWL You will find one that is called .PWL ( for example my file is henry.pwl) This file contains all of your passwords. If you delete it (I prefer rename but it is up to you) and then shut down and restart this should fix the problem(all you have to do is log off and log in as a different user). When the system comes back up enter your password it will think you have never logged in to the machine before and will ask you to confirm the password. This process actually creates a new PWL file. Get the patch and this file should not get corrupted again!!! BTW any password that you have typed into your system in stored in this file so you will have to enter them all again when prompted Gary Henry ClubWIn -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Anthony Forte [SMTP:pforte@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 1997 5:58 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Passwords Gone Who has a clue why my saved passwords, under Windows 95, would suddenly disappear? These were my ISP passwords that I now must type in each time I wish to connect to the internet. Any ideas? Thanks. Patrick pforte@worldnet.att.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 11 20:31:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA245291114; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:31:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20166; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:26:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:20:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19626; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:20:53 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net ([204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19616; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:20:50 -0500 Received: from 701c (liv-57.rust.net [206.42.195.157]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA07468; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:19:41 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970211202020.006ee29c@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 14 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:20:20 -0500 To: Patrick Anthony Forte , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: Passwords Gone In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970211175807.006aa584@postoffice.worldnet.att.net > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 05:58 PM 2/11/97 -0500, you wrote: > Who has a clue why my saved passwords, under Windows 95, would suddenly >disappear? These were my ISP passwords that I now must type in each time I >wish to connect to the internet. Any ideas? Thanks. > >Patrick >pforte@worldnet.att.net > > Sounds like the password file has been corrupted. Go to the Microsoft web site and search the keyword "password". There is a patch program for that and documentation on what to do and why. No problems since running the fix... B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 11 23:22:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA274481356; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:22:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08023; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:20:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:13:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07093; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:13:51 -0500 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07076; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:13:47 -0500 From: Received: from evt-mx100-ip200.halcyon.com by mail1.halcyon.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/10Nov96-0444PM) id AA04184; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:13:34 -0800 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970212041314.00682754@mail.halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@mail.halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:13:14 -0800 To: Patrick Anthony Forte Subject: Re: Passwords Gone Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 05:58 PM 2/11/97 -0500, you wrote: > Who has a clue why my saved passwords, under Windows 95, would suddenly >disappear? These were my ISP passwords that I now must type in each time I >wish to connect to the internet. Any ideas? Thanks. > >Patrick >pforte@worldnet.att.net > > Patrick, Your password file has a well known bug in it. Go to the Microsoft web page and download the password patch file. A temporary fix is to delete your password file and let it rebuild itself but, believe me, you need the patch. Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 12 02:13:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA007711620; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:13:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22241; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:12:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:05:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21460; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:05:38 -0500 Received: from pathway1.pathcom.com (pathway1.pathcom.com [204.191.122.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21444; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:05:34 -0500 Received: from pppuser.uoguelph.ca (ppp01-45.net.uoguelph.ca [131.104.11.145]) by pathway1.pathcom.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA19365 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:05:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199702120705.CAA19365@pathway1.pathcom.com> From: "yang zhao" To: Subject: XF86config on tp755cd Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:44:06 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, there! Does anyone runing X windows with Svga 640*480 under tp755cd. I can not make it work, so I am still using VGA.(looks terribale). Is that possible someone can help me on this Xf86config file. ( Why IBM still using this Wdigital video card?) Thankx in advance yang From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 12 06:39:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA048397543; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:39:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22259; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:37:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:30:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA21454; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:30:05 -0500 Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk (mercury.ukc.ac.uk [129.12.21.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA21408; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:29:52 -0500 Received: from merlin.ukc.ac.uk by mercury.ukc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:29:22 +0000 Received: from slip1d81.ukc.ac.uk by merlin.ukc.ac.uk (4.1/UKC-2.14) id AA09835; Wed, 12 Feb 97 11:29:13 GMT Message-Id: <3301AE74.5748@ukc.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:50:12 +0000 From: Angus Reply-To: afh1@ukc.ac.uk Organization: Amulet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 3550 Deskstation Unit? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I've seen some of these units going very cheaply. Just wondering which machines they are compatible with and what interfaces they provide? I can't find any references to Model 3550 in the IBM literature. Cheers, Angus Hewlett From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 12 08:52:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA066715536; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:52:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04096; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:50:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:45:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03325; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:45:51 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03311; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:45:47 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95c.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95c.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.172]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA190250; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:45:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199702121345.IAA190250@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Patrick Anthony Forte" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 12 Feb 97 08:45:48 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701C Sound Problem Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You might also try changing the IRQ to 5 for the ESS audio card. FN-F1->go to page 3->User port settings. On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:08:47 -0500, Patrick Anthony Forte wrote: > On a 701C, under Windows 95, has anyone been able to get the sound driver >to work? I have wasted may hours loading the ESS ES688 Autodrive driver >with very little success. ONE TIME, the sound recorder worked (under >accessory, multimedia) but never again. Under the Device manager, the >sound driver shows a yellow exclamation mark but there is not any conflict >indicated. PLEASE HELP! > > Is there anyone I can pay to fix this problem? Thanks > >PATRICK >pforte@worldnet.att.net jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 12 13:56:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA133493769; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:56:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03686; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:49:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:43:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02871; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:43:06 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02863; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:43:01 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95c.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95c.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.172]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA166554; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:42:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199702121342.IAA166554@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "afh1@ukc.ac.uk" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 12 Feb 97 08:42:19 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 3550 Deskstation Unit? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu They are for the 700/720 series of theinkpads. All are MicroChannel arch. On Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:50:12 +0000, Angus wrote: >Hi, >I've seen some of these units going very cheaply. Just wondering which >machines they are compatible with and what interfaces they provide? I >can't find any references to Model 3550 in the IBM literature. > >Cheers, > Angus Hewlett jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 12 16:58:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA171194682; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:58:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00457; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:54:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:46:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29180; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:46:01 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28815; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:42:57 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01652; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:48:35 -0700 Message-Id: <33023897.4FFD@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:39:35 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: yang zhao Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: XF86config on tp755cd X-Priority: Normal References: <199702120705.CAA19365@pathway1.pathcom.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu IBM isn't still using that card; you have a pretty old system. However, as I always suggest, take a look at our Linux for Thinkpads support pages under our home page (click below). -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 12 22:17:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA234473852; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:17:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02613; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:15:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:10:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02178; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:10:55 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02124; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:10:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id TAA18014 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 19:10:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 19:10:10 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain Reply-To: Scott McDermott To: Thinkpad List Subject: Introduction, Display & Ethernet question... Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greetings all. I've recently become the (proud?) owner of a 755cx. It has: Win95 (Mixed blessing, eh?) 800x600 display MWave DSP 24M RAM 810M HD and a borrowed PCMCIA ethernet card. End of intro. ;) The questions: I'm looking for opinions of PCMCIA 10Base-T ethernet cards. Speed, power use, basic quality, etc. What do you seasoned TP veterans recommend? Also, I'm looking to have a full screen DOS session use the whole display. Particularly would be nice if 320x200 & 640x400/480 games could use the whole display (or at least more of it!) Is this possible? If so, what's the solution? /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 04:57:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA011057838; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:57:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08404; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:56:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:52:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07975; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:52:36 -0500 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07962; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:52:32 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id EAA01455 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:51:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:51:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970213045158_1678230590@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New Member Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello to All, I just purchased a Thinkpad 365XD: 120 Pentium, 1gig HD, 8 meg RAM, running Windows 95. One of the preloaded software programs, TransXit2, is missing a driver and won't operate so I am about to pack up the machine and ship it back to the factory, at IBMs suggestion, so they can reload all the software. I''m also looking to add 8 megs RAM. If this an installation that I can do myself or should I get the factory to do it while the machine is going back there? Frank; fwbiii@aol.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 08:53:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046342009; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:53:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04675; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:51:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:45:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04079; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:45:53 -0500 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04047; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:45:44 -0500 Received: from CLAUDIA ([129.126.232.4]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA27499 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:43:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199702131343.AA27499@kodakr.kodak.com> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:54:00 -0500 From: "King, Randall" Subject: Re: New Member To: FWBIII , THINKPAD X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The 365's all have that damn tinfoil liner in them. According the IBM, if you remove the liner, you invalidate the warranty. If it's going back to IBM anyways, I would have them install it. RK ---------- >From: FWBIII >To: THINKPAD >Subject: Re: New Member >Date: Thursday, February 13, 1997 4:51AM > >Hello to All, >I just purchased a Thinkpad 365XD: 120 Pentium, 1gig HD, 8 meg RAM, running >Windows 95. One of the preloaded software programs, TransXit2, is missing a >driver and won't operate so I am about to pack up the machine and ship it >back to the factory, at IBMs suggestion, so they can reload all the software. > I''m also looking to add 8 megs RAM. If this an installation that I can do >myself or should I get the factory to do it while the machine is going back >there? > >Frank; fwbiii@aol.com > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 09:40:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA053484815; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:40:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10237; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:36:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:32:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09650; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:32:05 -0500 Received: from lotus.lotus.com (lotus.com [192.233.136.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09624; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:32:00 -0500 From: Received: from internet2.lotus.com by lotus.lotus.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA16437; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:27:58 -0500 Received: from mta2.lotus.com by internet2.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00393; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:24:27 -0500 Received: by mta2.lotus.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (305.4 1-15-1997)) id 8525643D.004FD37F ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:31:54 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LOTUS@MTA To: scottm@kcls.org Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <8525643D.004F363D.00@mta2.lotus.com> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:31:04 -0400 Subject: Re: Introduction, Display & Ethernet question... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've had IBM and 3Com with virtually no problems. With Wind95 you shouldn't have a problem with either one. If you're thinking of Linux or Solaris later on (don't laugh, I run both as well as OS/2 on separate disks on the same TP you have 'cept I have 40M) you'll want to go with the 3Com card ... Regards, -Bill scottm@kcls.org on 02/12/97 10:10:10 PM Please respond to scottm@kcls.org To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: (bcc: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Subject: Introduction, Display & Ethernet question... Greetings all. I've recently become the (proud?) owner of a 755cx. It has: Win95 (Mixed blessing, eh?) 800x600 display MWave DSP 24M RAM 810M HD and a borrowed PCMCIA ethernet card. End of intro. ;) The questions: I'm looking for opinions of PCMCIA 10Base-T ethernet cards. Speed, power use, basic quality, etc. What do you seasoned TP veterans recommend? Also, I'm looking to have a full screen DOS session use the whole display. Particularly would be nice if 320x200 & 640x400/480 games could use the whole display (or at least more of it!) Is this possible? If so, what's the solution? /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 12:09:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA092033793; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:09:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29008; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:06:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:02:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28447; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:02:32 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28425; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:02:24 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA12074; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:01:21 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199702131701.MAA12074@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Introduction, Display & Ethernet question... To: Bill_Abt/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:01:21 -0500 (EST) Cc: scottm@kcls.org, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <8525643D.004F363D.00@mta2.lotus.com> from "Bill_Abt/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com" at Feb 13, 97 09:31:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I've had IBM and 3Com with virtually no problems. With Wind95 you > shouldn't have a problem with either one. If you're thinking of Linux or > Solaris later on (don't laugh, I run both as well as OS/2 on separate disks > on the same TP you have 'cept I have 40M) you'll want to go with the 3Com > card ... I agree 100%. I have an original 3Com 3C589 combo (not B or C) and it's worked well for me with DOS, WfW, Win95, Solaris and Linux over the past 2.5 years. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 13:11:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA106767487; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:11:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07129; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:07:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:03:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06478; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:03:19 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06427; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:03:08 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06584; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:09:45 -0700 Message-Id: <330356C9.737A@wwsi.com> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:00:41 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Scott McDermott Cc: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Introduction, Display & Ethernet question... X-Priority: Normal References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Scott, 3Com is the clear winner in PC Card Ethernet adapters, in my opinion. Also, take a look at the PS2 command for some interesting display switching possibilities. PS2 is the Thinkpad Utility program for DOS. ssh -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 13:56:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA117250212; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:56:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14004; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:53:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:50:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13546; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:49:56 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13532; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:49:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id KAA18647 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:48:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:48:56 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Introduction, Display & Ethernet question... In-Reply-To: <8525643D.004F363D.00@mta2.lotus.com> Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 Bill_Abt/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com wrote: > I've had IBM and 3Com with virtually no problems. With Wind95 you > shouldn't have a problem with either one. If you're thinking of Linux or > Solaris later on (don't laugh, I run both as well as OS/2 on separate disks > on the same TP you have 'cept I have 40M) you'll want to go with the 3Com > card ... TNX for the info, both Linux and Solaris have been possibilities. ;) Of the two, which supports the TP the best? Which performs the best? (Yes, I realize those can be somewhat subjective) Also, I know Linux doesn't, but does Solaris support the MWave modem? /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 13:59:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA117510346; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:59:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14209; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:55:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:52:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13893; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:52:38 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13887; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:52:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id KAA19369 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:52:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:52:20 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Introduction, Display & Ethernet question... In-Reply-To: <330356C9.737A@wwsi.com> Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Steve Hultquist wrote: > 3Com is the clear winner in PC Card Ethernet adapters, in my opinion. That's what I was leaning towards, anyway. ;) Just wanted to be sure. > Also, take a look at the PS2 command for some interesting display > switching possibilities. PS2 is the Thinkpad Utility program for DOS. I tried the vexp option, which didn't appear to do anything, and the mode3x, which did work, only helps text mode. 100x37 isn't particularly helpful, though... (at least not for me) /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 15:39:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA138706389; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:39:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16106; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:07:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:03:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15417; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:03:19 -0500 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15387; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:03:07 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA141031 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:02:59 GMT Message-Id: <199702131902.TAA141031@out1.ibm.net> Received: from slip139-92-52-154.vi.at.ibm.net(139.92.52.154) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaqH4YN5; Thu Feb 13 19:02:48 1997 From: "Siegfried Hanisch" To: "ThinkPad mailing list" Date: Thu, 13 Feb 97 20:02:03 +0200 Reply-To: "Siegfried Hanisch" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Siegfried Hanisch's Registered PMMail 1.9 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 760 power on password gone Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi! I have set a power-on password and an administrator password (the one you have to enter before going into the system setup). Since I have set the admin password, my 760EL *never* asked me again for a password when switching it on. I tried to disable and re-enable the power-on password in the system setup, but this did not change anything. Any ideas? (And yes, I have the latest BIOS update installed.) Both passwords are equal. Greetings # Quick to judge Siegfried Hanisch # Quick to anger =====================================# Slow to understand siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net # Ignorance and prejudice ssaver@ibm.net (ScreenSaver support) # And fear =====================================# Walk hand in hand http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8925811/ # Rush - "Witch Hunt" PGP public key available # Team OS/2 # From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 16:33:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA151189574; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:32:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03550; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:28:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:23:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02876; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:23:36 -0500 Received: from unix.asb.com (root@unix.asb.com [165.254.128.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02812; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:22:48 -0500 Received: from sls2.asb.com (sls2.asb.com [165.254.128.12]) by unix.asb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA00558 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:25:09 -0500 From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: netware 411 - thinkpad - IBM ethernet card? Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 22:23:58 GMT Message-Id: <330710a5.2427098@unix.asb.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.361 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I would like to set up a portable netware server (4.10 or 4.11) on my thinkpad and I have the IBM pcmcia ethernet card (ethernet 2 - pn 42H4316 - made in Canada). Does anyone know what .lan driver from netware server install will work with this card? Or in lieu of that is there a brand name company that makes the cards like Future Domain drivers will work with the "IBM" scsi pcmcia cards? Any suggestions appreciated. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 423B78C80FEA5495 CF64AD5F214797DE http://www.asb.com/usr/christij 95E3789C5679C4D7 03210B57E76FE66 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 18:12:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA175165564; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:12:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16407; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:10:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:07:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16082; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:07:36 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16057; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:07:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id PAA00725 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:07:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:07:22 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain To: Thinkpad List Subject: Difference between DIMM & card? Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Question: Besides the physical form, is there any difference between using a memory card, and DIMMs? Secondary Q: Do they make 32M memory cards that will work in my 755CX? (I don't have the DIMM adapter...) Thanks... /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 18:13:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA175305595; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:13:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16398; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:10:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:02:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15213; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:02:27 -0500 Received: from en.com (root@en.com [204.89.181.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15206; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:02:22 -0500 Received: from frodo (p25-ts15.en.net [207.78.13.25]) by en.com (8.8.5/8.7.4) with SMTP id RAA13753 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 17:59:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970213180240.00692aa4@en.com> X-Sender: pech@en.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:03:55 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Pech Subject: In Search of Memory for IBM T.P.360 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am interested in buying a memory module 12 or 16 meg for my Thinkpad 360. If you have a module that would work and wish to part with please contact me at pech@en.com with discription and price. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 19:52:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA201801542; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:52:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25430; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:49:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:46:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25085; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:46:00 -0500 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem106.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.106]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25074; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:45:52 -0500 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id QAA00263; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:44:05 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:41:21 -0800 (PST) From: derelict To: Scott McDermott Subject: RE: Difference between DIMM & card? Cc: Thinkpad List Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I really don't see any difference between the DIMM and the ICDRAM cards except for the form factor. Yes, they do make 32M ICDRAM cards for the 755CX. I have a 755CD with a 32M ICDRAM that I believe was intended for a 755CX (along with some other 755 models). You just need to check if you need parity or non-parity (or just buy parity and not worry about it) -Mike On 13-Feb-97 Scott McDermott wrote: >Question: Besides the physical form, is there any difference between using >a memory card, and DIMMs? > >Secondary Q: Do they make 32M memory cards that will work in my 755CX? (I >don't have the DIMM adapter...) > >Thanks... > >/* > Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, > King County Library System | Code today, > PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow > */ -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 20:52:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA214635146; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:52:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01900; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:49:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:46:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01377; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:46:27 -0500 Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (root@access.mbnet.mb.ca [130.179.16.143]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01346; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:46:18 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ts6m-3.mbnet.mb.ca [204.112.178.86]) by access.mbnet.mb.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA22114; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:45:56 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3303E116.47D8@mbnet.mb.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:50:46 -0800 From: Jason Savage Reply-To: Jason_Savage@mbnet.mb.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Joseph Christie Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: netware 411 - thinkpad - IBM ethernet card? References: <330710a5.2427098@unix.asb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm not sure about that IBM card. Have you tried using the NE2000 driver, quite a few LAN adapters out there are NE2000 compatible. A 3COM 3C589 (PCMCIA) won't steer you wrong since it uses the same drivers as a 3C509 (16-bit ISA). I hope that helps you out. Sincerely, Jason Savage Savage@MBnet.MB.CA Joseph Christie wrote: > > I would like to set up a portable netware server (4.10 or 4.11) on my thinkpad > and I have the IBM pcmcia ethernet card (ethernet 2 - pn 42H4316 - made in > Canada). Does anyone know what .lan driver from netware server install will > work with this card? Or in lieu of that is there a brand name company that > makes the cards like Future Domain drivers will work with the "IBM" scsi > pcmcia cards? > > Any suggestions appreciated. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 423B78C80FEA5495 CF64AD5F214797DE > http://www.asb.com/usr/christij 95E3789C5679C4D7 03210B57E76FE66 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it > is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I > am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 21:02:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA216555760; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:02:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03578; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:01:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:58:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03143; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:58:48 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com ([204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03130; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:58:41 -0500 Received: from user-37kb97o.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb97o.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.248]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAB34968; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:58:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199702140158.UAB34968@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "FWBIII" , "King, Randall" , "THINKPAD" Date: Thu, 13 Feb 97 20:58:37 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: New Member Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The Easyserve process will not install non original componets in a thinkpad that is sent in for repair/reload of s/w. As for removing the tinfoil, I'm not positive that it woild void the warranty but I do know it will void the FCC requirment for EMF noise. It may alos reduce the quality of sound or pictures of items close to them. Just a throught, do you think it will void the warranty of your refrigator if you remove some of the materials arround the cooling coils or compressor. On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:54:00 -0500, King, Randall wrote: > >The 365's all have that damn tinfoil liner in them. According the IBM, if >you remove the liner, you invalidate the warranty. If it's going back to >IBM anyways, I would have them install it. > >RK > ---------- >>From: FWBIII >>To: THINKPAD >>Subject: Re: New Member >>Date: Thursday, February 13, 1997 4:51AM >> >>Hello to All, >>I just purchased a Thinkpad 365XD: 120 Pentium, 1gig HD, 8 meg RAM, running >>Windows 95. One of the preloaded software programs, TransXit2, is missing >a >>driver and won't operate so I am about to pack up the machine and ship it >>back to the factory, at IBMs suggestion, so they can reload all the >software. >> I''m also looking to add 8 megs RAM. If this an installation that I can >do >>myself or should I get the factory to do it while the machine is going back >>there? >> >>Frank; fwbiii@aol.com >> >> jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 13 21:07:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA217356074; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:07:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04342; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:06:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:03:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03768; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:03:29 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com ([204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03760; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:03:26 -0500 Received: from user-37kb97o.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb97o.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.248]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA163964; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:03:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199702140203.VAA163964@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "FWBIII@aol.com" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 13 Feb 97 21:03:22 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: New Member Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If you go into diskette factory under thinkpad tools, do you find a listing for tranxit2. On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:51:59 -0500 (EST), FWBIII@aol.com wrote: >Hello to All, >I just purchased a Thinkpad 365XD: 120 Pentium, 1gig HD, 8 meg RAM, running >Windows 95. One of the preloaded software programs, TransXit2, is missing a >driver and won't operate so I am about to pack up the machine and ship it >back to the factory, at IBMs suggestion, so they can reload all the software. > I''m also looking to add 8 megs RAM. If this an installation that I can do >myself or should I get the factory to do it while the machine is going back >there? > >Frank; fwbiii@aol.com > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 14 00:15:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA253367314; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:15:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23418; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:14:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:09:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22909; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:09:22 -0500 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22899; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:09:17 -0500 Received: from cais.cais.com (rj@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/cais-andrew-jdf) with SMTP id AAA25086 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:09:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:09:03 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701 Hibernation Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just started using the hibernation feature of the system and it seems to work just fine except that when I use WinNT 4.0 as the OS the clock does not get updated while the system is hibernating. Is this normal or is there something that can be done so that the clock gets updated when the system wakes up? Thanks! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 14 06:26:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA018959600; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 06:26:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01350; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 06:26:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 06:22:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00973; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 06:22:53 -0500 Received: from columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be (columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be [130.104.14.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00952; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 06:22:46 -0500 Received: from columbia (unverified [130.104.14.58]) by columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:24:36 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970214132436.00938714@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be> X-Sender: myself@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:24:36 -0100 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Alain Jacques Subject: Re: XFree86 on 760E/ED Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 13:06 10/02/97 -0500, you wrote: >Does XFree86 (in Linux) run on a 760E/ED? Yes, check http://www.mindspring.com/~jhind/tplinux/ Regards, Alain From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 14 10:56:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA062445791; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:56:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29855; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:54:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:49:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29034; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:49:19 -0500 Received: from bonjour.cc.columbia.edu (cu8264@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28995; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:49:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (pm119@localhost) by bonjour.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24371 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:49:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:49:00 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes Sender: pm119@columbia.edu To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP/Zip/CDROM Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greetings! | TP 750C | | Iomega | | Panasonic | | DOS 6.22 |<--->| Zip |<--->| KXL-D720 | | Win 3.11 | | Drive | | 2X CDROM | | 20 MB RAM | | (SCSI) | | 340 MB HD | | SCSI PCMCIA | If you have experience with a similar setup, I would really like to hear you comments on a few problems. The SCSI PCMCIA card is the one which came with the Panasonic CD-ROM drive. Physically, the components are linked in the order shown above; the total length of cable (including adapters) is less than 3 feet. The Zip drive is NOT set to be a terminator. Recently I had to re-install the whole system, and I'm having trouble getting everything running smoothly. I have juggled a few parameters without a lot of success. Do you have a copy of a CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT that I could look at? Suggestions?... Basically the system hangs *sometimes* (the problem is not exactly reproducible!) either when looking for a drive letter for the Zip Drive, or soon afterwards (the HD drive activity remains ON, by the way). Also, intermittently, on leaving Windows or soon after that, the system hangs and says that EMM386 has detected an error #6. Does anyone have a list of these errors? And since we're on the EMM topic, what memory can be included and excluded to optimize memory usage? HELP EMM386.EXE NOTES suggests that SMARTDRV /double_buffer should be included in CONFIG.SYS when SCSI devices are used. Does anyone have any idea why? And should this be included before or after EMM386 gets loaded? (I have tried both and noticed no difference, but as my system is acting up every now and then, I can't be conclusive about this.) Enough questions for a single message. Many thanks in anticipation for your comments on these issues - especially in getting the Zip drive and CD-ROM to communicate flawlessly with the old TP... -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 14 11:40:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA071268431; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:40:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05661; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:39:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:36:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05301; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:36:20 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com ([199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05269; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:36:07 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA15604 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA7615; Fri, 14 Feb 97 11:32:09 -0800 Message-Id: <9702141932.AA7615@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id DA33B8AD1DA09D338525643E0057F7B2; Fri, 14 Feb 97 11:32:06 EDT To: Paulo Magalhaes Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 14 Feb 97 11:32:45 EDT Subject: Re: TP/Zip/CDROM X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "... | DOS 6.22 |<--->| Zip |<--->| KXL-D720 | Suggestions?..." ~~~~~ have you tried reversing the order of scsi devices? i seem to recall having better luck with aspi devices (like cd roms) when they were the first device away from the card. "... Also, intermittently, on leaving Windows or soon after that, the system hangs and says that EMM386 has detected an error #6. ..." ~~~~~ if you were using a xircom card, i could help you. otherwise, i'm at a loss. "... suggests that SMARTDRV /double_buffer should be included in CONFIG.SYS when SCSI devices are used. Does anyone have any idea why? And should this be included before or after EMM386 gets loaded? (I have tried both and noticed no difference, but as my system is acting up every now and then, I can't be conclusive about this.) ..." ~~~~~ i always thought that was only for scsi *hard disks.* in any case, dos can help you with this one. boot up with double buffering loading in your config.sys. then at the dos prompt, type 'smartdrv' and you will see a list of your drives and cache information for each. the last column is 'buffering.' if any of the items in the list have a 'yes' under 'buffering' then, according to dos, you should have it loaded. if so, it needs to come *after* the memory manager, because smartdrv uses extended memory, not conventional. if every drive shows a 'no' in the buffering column, then you should load smartdrv in your autoexec instead. also, if this is the case, you can get some speed enhancement by writing it this way: c:\windows\smartdrv.exe 512 512 or c:\windows\smartdrv.exe 1024 1024 at 20mb, you have enough ram that you can afford 1024k each (dos cache, win cache). if you don't specify these cache sizes, it will default to 256k each and you won't nearly as much benefit from it. hope this helps. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . First say to yourself what you would be, then do what you have to do. -Epictetus From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 14 12:41:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA082922115; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:41:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12749; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:37:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:34:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12408; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:34:43 -0500 Received: from hsc.usc.edu (hsc.usc.edu [128.125.253.156]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12398; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:34:39 -0500 Received: (from echang@localhost) by hsc.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) id JAA29366 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:34:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:34:33 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Chang Message-Id: <199702141734.JAA29366@hsc.usc.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755CD warranty period Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I'm considering purchasing a used 755CD from an individual. I do understand that these machines have a three year warranty period. But, when I called IBM technical support (800) 772-2227 they informed me that the three year warranty starts from the date of purchase OR from the date that the machine was introduced/announced. The support person did not know whether these machines were introduced in April of 1994 or 1995. He also informed me that they could not determine the date of manufactor from the serial number (doesn't make sense to me). Does anyone know when the 755CD Pentium 75 was introduced? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Eric Chang, echang@hsc.usc.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 14 14:10:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA103507394; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:09:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09098; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:07:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:04:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08533; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:04:01 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08503; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:03:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id JAA23208 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:01:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:01:04 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain To: Thinkpad List Subject: More questions! ;) Hibernation problem... Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks for the help thus far - it's nice to actually get answers to some of my questions! I'm running Win95 OSR2 with the drive formatted with FAT32. I cannot create a hibernation file, I get the (usual) highly descriptive error message "error creating hibernation file". Is this because of FAT32? If so, when is IBM going to fix it (or are they? I can't see them not, but stranger things have happened...) If it's not a FAT32 problem, any ideas what I can do to fix it? /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 14 14:29:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA107958553; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:29:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23818; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:24:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:20:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23280; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:20:26 -0500 Received: from r02n02.cac.psu.edu (r02a02.cac.psu.edu [146.186.15.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23251; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:20:19 -0500 Received: from 89171.hbg.psu.edu (89171.hbg.psu.edu [146.186.89.171]) by r02n02.cac.psu.edu (8.7.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA36798 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:19:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:19:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199702141919.OAA36798@r02n02.cac.psu.edu> X-Sender: rfm@email.psu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Robert Munzenrider Subject: Upgrading 701 to Win95 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recently inherited a TP701, and I want to upgrade it from Win3.11 to Win95. I'm a little confused by the little port one uses to connect either the external floppy or a parallel printer. I'm going to need that port to connect a parallel- port-type Backpack-Brand External CD drive. I will have to use that cd/port to install Win95 from its Win95 Upgrade CD. _BUT_, I need to access the A-drive through the same port at some point during the installation process to make my Win95 StartUp disk. ???? My question: Can I unplug my CD connector and then plug in my A-drive, etc. during the Win95 installation process without disrupting the installation? Does the TP701 tolerate swapping peripherals connected through that port while still on-line? Does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed to install Win95 from a cd in this little machine? Thanks. Bob Munzenrider Penn State Harrisburg Middletown PA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 14 14:37:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA110189034; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:37:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25122; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:35:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:32:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24708; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:32:52 -0500 Received: from ciao.cc.columbia.edu (cu41754@ciao.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24691; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:32:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (pm119@localhost) by ciao.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA07980 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:28:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:28:56 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes Sender: pm119@columbia.edu To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP/Zip/CDROM In-Reply-To: <9702141932.AA7613@lgate.vmedia.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On 14 Feb 1997, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: > "... | DOS 6.22 |<--->| Zip |<--->| KXL-D720 | > Suggestions?..." > > ~~~~~ > have you tried reversing the order of scsi devices? i seem to recall having > better luck with aspi devices (like cd roms) when they were the first device > away from the card. Unfortunately the CD-ROM MUST be the last one in the chain (it is, by design, a chain terminator). As for the SMARTDRV / EMM386 issue, > i always thought that was only for scsi *hard disks.* I really don't know - I am now on a Mac, so I can't confirm, but quoting from memory, I believe there's no mention of HD in the DOS HELP stuff. It would, however, make sense if it only mattered in the case of HDs... Finally, I will re-post my earlier request in a slightly different way: is anyone out there willing to let me peep at "fully annotated" versions of their CONFIG.SYS / AUTOEXEC.BAT files - the tips I'm looking for, of course, are the ones related to the drivers, order of loading, etc, which may enable my silly system to start behaving like a once-top-of-the-line machine! :) Is it really so hard to get a TP to talk in a civil manner to a couple of SCSI devices?!... Again, many thanks. -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 14 15:19:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA119161574; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:19:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02022; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:16:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:12:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01454; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:12:41 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01443; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:12:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id MAA15219 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:12:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:12:21 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Upgrading 701 to Win95 In-Reply-To: <199702141919.OAA36798@r02n02.cac.psu.edu> Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Robert Munzenrider wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed to install Win95 from a > cd in this little machine? Copy the files from the win95 directory on the cd to the hard drive and run the setup program from the HD. It'll probably install faster that way, anyhow. You can always remove the files after you've installed. In fact, you can boot from the hard drive and install without needing to deal with exciting CD drivers and such... /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 14 17:05:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA145337938; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:05:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15689; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:04:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:00:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15142; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:00:12 -0500 Received: from gosensgo (gosensgo.brit.ca [207.134.28.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15063; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:00:00 -0500 Received: from gosensgo (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gosensgo (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA00148; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:03:26 -0500 Sender: root@gosensgo Message-Id: <3304E12E.A38091F@brit.ca> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:03:26 -0500 From: Trevor Boicey Organization: BRIT Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.28 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Munzenrider Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Upgrading 701 to Win95 References: <199702141919.OAA36798@r02n02.cac.psu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Robert Munzenrider wrote: > I'm a little confused by the little port one uses to connect either the > external floppy or a parallel printer. I'm going to need that port to > connect a parallel- port-type Backpack-Brand External CD drive. I will have > to use that cd/port to install Win95 from its Win95 Upgrade CD. > _BUT_, I need to access the A-drive through the same port at some point > during the installation process to make my Win95 StartUp disk. ???? Attach the port replicator, and use that parallel port. Had to do this to install Linux on mine from ZIP drive. Note that that parallel port is usually not lpt2 it's lpt3. (I'm assuming here that the port replicator comes with all systems, it does around here) Note that I've also heard of people doing it by suspending when the floppy is needed, and switching, then resuming. Might get really annoying if you have to do it more than 3 times, but it's kind of novel. -- .---------------------------------------Ottawa-Canada-GOSENSGO-----. / Trevor Boicey 1992 Celica GT 1975 MG Midget / `---- tboicey@brit.ca ------------------------------------------' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 14 17:23:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA150289034; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:23:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17418; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:20:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:17:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17080; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:17:17 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (root@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17067; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:17:10 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id RAA06142; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:05:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:05:13 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: Robert Munzenrider Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Upgrading 701 to Win95 In-Reply-To: <199702141919.OAA36798@r02n02.cac.psu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Friday, 14th February 1997, Robert Munzenrider wrote: > I'm a little confused by the little port one uses to connect either the > external floppy or a parallel printer. I'm going to need that port to > connect a parallel- port-type Backpack-Brand External CD drive. I will > have to use that cd/port to install Win95 from its Win95 Upgrade CD. > _BUT_, I need to access the A-drive through the same port at some point > during the installation process to make my Win95 StartUp disk. ???? Did you inherit the port replicator (sorry, I've forgotten the IBM-speak for it) with your 701? If so, you can use the parallel port on it for your CDROM and the one on the left side of the box for the diskette drive. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 14 22:05:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA205615932; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:05:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11445; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:04:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 21:59:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10926; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 21:59:26 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10902; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 21:59:14 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA18889; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 21:58:50 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199702150258.VAA18889@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: More questions! ;) Hibernation problem... To: scottm@kcls.org (Scott McDermott) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 21:58:46 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: from "Scott McDermott" at Feb 14, 97 09:01:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I'm running Win95 OSR2 with the drive formatted with FAT32. I cannot > create a hibernation file, I get the (usual) highly descriptive error > message "error creating hibernation file". Is this because of FAT32? Yes, it appears so. > If so, when is IBM going to fix it (or are they? I can't see them not, > but stranger things have happened...) I would expect that they will fix it, but note that OSR2 is an OEM service release: officially, it is only available for resale by OEMs preinstalled on new machines. Theoretically, OSR2 should not be available on ThinkPads until IBM starts to preload it, and accordingly, they don't need to rush to add support for it. Of course, some or all of the functionality of OSR2 might find its way into a Service Pack at some point, too. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 14 22:24:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA209007045; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:24:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13294; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:23:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:20:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12842; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:20:00 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12832; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:19:55 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95c.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95c.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.172]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA165498; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:19:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199702150319.WAA165498@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Eric Chang" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 14 Feb 97 22:19:55 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 755CD warranty period Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Call IBM again, what they do is use the s/n to find the date of mfg. or the original date of purchase if know. If you can get a copy of the sales recite from the individual & use that date. On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:34:33 -0800 (PST), Eric Chang wrote: > >Hi, I'm considering purchasing a used 755CD from an individual. I do >understand that these machines have a three year warranty period. But, >when I called IBM technical support (800) 772-2227 they informed me that >the three year warranty starts from the date of purchase OR from the date >that the machine was introduced/announced. The support person did not >know whether these machines were introduced in April of 1994 or 1995. >He also informed me that they could not determine the date of manufactor >from the serial number (doesn't make sense to me). Does anyone know >when the 755CD Pentium 75 was introduced? Thanks in advance. > >Cheers, >Eric Chang, >echang@hsc.usc.edu jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 14 22:26:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA209387211; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:26:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13648; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:26:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:22:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13186; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:22:29 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13175; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:22:25 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95c.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95c.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.172]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA107580; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:22:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199702150322.WAA107580@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Scott McDermott" , "Thinkpad List" Date: Fri, 14 Feb 97 22:22:10 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: More questions! ;) Hibernation problem... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I woukld assume that the next release of the TP uttilites will provide support for fat32. IBM is shipping new TP with OSR2 on them. I don't know if fat32 is used or not on these machines. On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:01:04 -0800 (PST), Scott McDermott wrote: >Thanks for the help thus far - it's nice to actually get answers to some >of my questions! > >I'm running Win95 OSR2 with the drive formatted with FAT32. I cannot >create a hibernation file, I get the (usual) highly descriptive error >message "error creating hibernation file". Is this because of FAT32? If >so, when is IBM going to fix it (or are they? I can't see them not, but >stranger things have happened...) If it's not a FAT32 problem, any ideas >what I can do to fix it? > >/* > Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, > King County Library System | Code today, > PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow > */ > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. 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No problem!! BTW- It doesn't matter what order you put the CD or ZIP. Its all a matter of terminating the last device. I think the panasonic SCSI is the source of your problem. I was told that the panasonic SCSI intersface WILL NOT work with anything other than the Panasonic CDROM, even though the CDROM will work with other SCSIs. At 10:49 AM 2/14/97 -0500, you wrote: >Greetings! > > | TP 750C | | Iomega | | Panasonic | > | DOS 6.22 |<--->| Zip |<--->| KXL-D720 | > | Win 3.11 | | Drive | | 2X CDROM | > | 20 MB RAM | | (SCSI) | > | 340 MB HD | > | SCSI PCMCIA | > >If you have experience with a similar setup, I would really like to hear >you comments on a few problems. > >The SCSI PCMCIA card is the one which came with the Panasonic CD-ROM >drive. Physically, the components are linked in the order shown above; the >total length of cable (including adapters) is less than 3 feet. The Zip >drive is NOT set to be a terminator. Recently I had to re-install the >whole system, and I'm having trouble getting everything running smoothly. >I have juggled a few parameters without a lot of success. Do you have a >copy of a CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT that I could look at? >Suggestions?... Basically the system hangs *sometimes* (the problem is not >exactly reproducible!) either when looking for a drive letter for the Zip >Drive, or soon afterwards (the HD drive activity remains ON, by the way). > >Also, intermittently, on leaving Windows or soon after that, the system >hangs and says that EMM386 has detected an error #6. Does anyone have a >list of these errors? And since we're on the EMM topic, what memory can >be included and excluded to optimize memory usage? HELP EMM386.EXE NOTES >suggests that SMARTDRV /double_buffer should be included in CONFIG.SYS >when SCSI devices are used. Does anyone have any idea why? And should this >be included before or after EMM386 gets loaded? (I have tried both and >noticed no difference, but as my system is acting up every now and then, >I can't be conclusive about this.) > >Enough questions for a single message. Many thanks in anticipation for >your comments on these issues - especially in getting the Zip drive and >CD-ROM to communicate flawlessly with the old TP... > >-- >Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA >voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu > -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzLrCf8AAAEEANEL1//KVcF04uwigiWqAC/Pnl73jMHB2fzDggYbmvfRvzLZ 1f37qdHcvbIAcEyduKCMAcg279Lo+Xts79w2D07j8c+F0tGOuNnx2+ee6nE6cbT+ twV1+eqBvnribc8hBkfxKF11wZW3zfUX/wKRfWB0Jj/r9k8Z4ykzcunu+3e5AAUR tC1WaWN0b3IgTS4gR29uemFsZXogPHZpY2dvbnpsZXpAaW50ZXJzZXJmLm5ldD4= =bebi -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 15 11:56:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA017495782; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:56:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27471; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:55:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:50:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26238; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:50:47 -0500 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26130; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:50:31 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA110927 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 16:50:27 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-168.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.168) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smasR0DFW; Sat Feb 15 16:50:22 1997 Message-Id: <3305E940.32EE@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 09:50:08 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 2.1 GIG Harddrives, anyone? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have found the drive as follows: MK2103MAV 2160mb toshiba, 2.5" ide drive 13ms, 12.7mm, 4200 rpm for a really good price ... any had experience in getting this drive to work in the 755 series thinkpads?? Will the form factor work? The same place has a "blessed" hard drive (1.0 GIG) for $1295 which was WAY TOO MUCH!! Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. Engineer/Author/Consultant 2 Applied Info & Mgnt Sys, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v: 801-583-8544 e: aimsllc@ibm.net / bangell@cs.utah.edu 4 -------------------------------------------------------- 5 Applied Info & Mngmnt Systems has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet, Notes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCPIP,etc), Custom (AWK-PERL-C-Visualizer), 8 Database dsgn/dev. (DB2-SQLserver-Oracle-etc.), Modeling 9 OS's (Win95;Warp/NT Server; AIX / HP-UX / SunOS; OS/400) 10 -------------------------------------------------------- 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sand- 12 wich, they would both be with us today!" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 15 12:28:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA022087705; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 12:28:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01099; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 12:27:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Feb 1997 12:24:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00846; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 12:24:30 -0500 Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (phr@netcom19.netcom.com [192.100.81.132]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00836; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 12:24:26 -0500 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA13005; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 09:24:23 -0800 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 09:24:23 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199702151724.JAA13005@netcom19.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: 2.1 gig harddrive Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The 12.7 mm high drive should fit just fine in the thinkpad caddy. Where did you get one and how much did you pay for it? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 15 13:21:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA029030887; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 13:21:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05219; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 13:20:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Feb 1997 13:18:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04983; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 13:18:07 -0500 Received: from r02n05.cac.psu.edu (r02a05.cac.psu.edu [146.186.15.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04937; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 13:17:51 -0500 Received: from 89171.hbg.psu.edu (89171.hbg.psu.edu [146.186.89.171]) by r02n05.cac.psu.edu (8.7.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA88930 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 13:17:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 13:17:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199702151817.NAA88930@r02n05.cac.psu.edu> X-Sender: rfm@email.psu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Robert Munzenrider Subject: Installing Win95 on a TP701 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My thanks to all who responded to my previous query about how to juggle a parallel-port cd drive & a floppy on the single special port on the left side of the 701. Several kind folks suggested that I connect the cd thru the parallel port on the Port Replicator gizmo.... And HEY! It works!! I've learned TWO big lessons: (1) The port replicator has a parallel port (2) I should read my manuals...... (- Like I said in original post, I recently inherited this machine) But for all that, I again attempted to load the Win95 Upgrade on the 701 last night, via the cd drive connected thru the parallel port on the Port Replicator.... 2 problems occurred: (1) the 95 existing hardware scan wouldn't complete (But everything runs fine under 3.11 - even the Sound Drivers, and the external port cd works fine under Win311), so I re-started the upgrade process with the /IS on the Setup command to skip the scan process; (2) At the final step of the upgrade process the the little machine froze up - Zip, Nada. After half an hour I re-booted, which took me into that crippled Win95 mode - "Safe" - ?? somesuch. I never could comlpete the Win95 upgrade cycle. Best I ever could do was the Safe mode. I'm wondering now if anyone out there has words of advice???? One possible shortcoming in present system: It only has 8 megs of memory; But there are 400 megs of free space on the hard drive so it should have plenty of space to swap & thrash, etc. And Like I said, everything works fine under Win311. HELP! BobM, Penn State Harrisburg about doing a ScanDrive. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 15 14:25:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA037504755; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:25:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09474; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:24:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:22:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09326; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:22:16 -0500 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09316; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:22:11 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA84889; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 19:22:06 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-168.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.168) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaq4oDFW; Sat Feb 15 19:22:00 1997 Message-Id: <33060CC8.57DD@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 12:21:44 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Rubin Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2.1 gig harddrive References: <199702151724.JAA13005@netcom19.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Paul Rubin wrote: > > The 12.7 mm high drive should fit just fine in the thinkpad > caddy. Where did you get one and how much did you pay for it? I have not purchased it yet, but it will be $639.99 + shipping (http://www.insight.com) -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. Engineer/Author/Consultant 2 Applied Info & Mgnt Sys, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v: 801-583-8544 e: aimsllc@ibm.net / bangell@cs.utah.edu 4 -------------------------------------------------------- 5 Applied Info & Mngmnt Systems has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet, Notes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCPIP,etc), Custom (AWK-PERL-C-Visualizer), 8 Database dsgn/dev. (DB2-SQLserver-Oracle-etc.), Modeling 9 OS's (Win95;Warp/NT Server; AIX / HP-UX / SunOS; OS/400) 10 -------------------------------------------------------- 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sand- 12 wich, they would both be with us today!" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 15 14:33:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA038855183; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:33:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10732; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:32:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:29:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10383; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:29:48 -0500 Received: from netcom8.netcom.com (phr@netcom8.netcom.com [192.100.81.117]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10369; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:29:44 -0500 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id LAA21585; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:29:30 -0800 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:29:30 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199702151929.LAA21585@netcom8.netcom.com> To: aimsllc@ibm.net Subject: Re: 2.1 gig harddrive Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > The 12.7 mm high drive should fit just fine in the thinkpad > caddy. Where did you get one and how much did you pay for it? I have not purchased it yet, but it will be $639.99 + shipping (http://www.insight.com) Actually that's not such a good price, I'd try to get it a bit lower. I think I've seen IBM drives 2 gig drives (17mm high) in the $500 range. I have a 19mm Toshiba drive (will only fit in 3rd party carrier) that I got for $400... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 15 15:14:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046747643; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:14:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14424; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:13:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:10:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14184; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:10:44 -0500 Received: from mail-c.bcc.ac.uk (mail-c.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14166; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:10:36 -0500 Received: from [128.40.81.204] (actually host mouse.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-c.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sat, 15 Feb 1997 20:10:29 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk (Alexander J. Annala) Subject: 2.1 gb drives (2.5 inch low profile format) Pp-Warning: No Date field - one added at mail-c.bcc.ac.uk Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 20:10:30 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Fry's electronics in Los Angeles had Toshiba 2.1 GB MK-2101MAN drives available for $494 new. I've seen similar drives in the London used computer marketplace for approximately $250 used with 90 day money back warranty. With a little mechanical skill you should have no problem installing this drive. IBM's TP 7xx BIOS recognizes these drives as LBA (linear block array) devices, does some reasonable logical reformat to pretend they have more heads than really exist in order to keep the cylinder count low enough to make any partition bootable. AJ Annala, LMP/Pharmacology, UCL, London >I have found the drive as follows: > MK2103MAV 2160mb toshiba, 2.5" ide drive 13ms, 12.7mm, 4200 rpm >for a really good price ... any had experience in getting >this drive to work in the 755 series thinkpads?? Will the >form factor work? The same place has a "blessed" hard drive >(1.0 GIG) for $1295 which was WAY TOO MUCH!! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 15 18:23:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA074448982; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 18:23:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29752; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 18:22:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 15 Feb 1997 18:18:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29393; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 18:18:36 -0500 Received: from sbroapp01.3-SOFT.com ([207.96.181.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29383; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 18:18:32 -0500 Received: by sbroapp01.3-SOFT.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC1B6D.C39999E0@sbroapp01.3-SOFT.com>; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 18:26:30 -0500 Message-Id: X-Ms-Tnef-Correlator: From: Jorge Mariano To: "'aimsllc@ibm.net'" , "'thinkpad'" Subject: RE: 2.1 GIG Harddrives, anyone? Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 18:26:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BC1B6D.C39B2080" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC1B6D.C39B2080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As anyone come up with a solution or adapter to use these drives as a=20 Primary drive in the ThinkPad 760ED ? Jorge ---------- De : Bob Angell[SMTP:aimsllc@ibm.net] Date : 15 f=E9vrier, 1997 11:50 A : thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Objet : 2.1 GIG Harddrives, anyone? 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Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: 2.1 GIG Harddrives, anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I have found the drive as follows: > > MK2103MAV 2160mb toshiba, 2.5" ide drive 13ms, 12.7mm, 4200 rpm > > for a really good price ... any had experience in getting > this drive to work in the 755 series thinkpads?? Will the For that matter, does anyone have any experience with this drive in a TP701? -- John H. Kim jokim@tuna.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 16 02:20:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA145707599; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 02:19:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06229; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 02:19:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Feb 1997 02:15:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05943; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 02:15:36 -0500 Received: from unix.asb.com (root@unix.asb.com [165.254.128.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05927; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 02:15:31 -0500 Received: from sls14.asb.com (sls14.asb.com [165.254.128.24]) by unix.asb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA09697; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 02:19:57 -0500 From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: Robert Munzenrider Subject: Re: Installing Win95 on a TP701 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 07:15:23 GMT Message-Id: <3312b3a5.51223566@unix.asb.com> References: <199702151817.NAA88930@r02n05.cac.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <199702151817.NAA88930@r02n05.cac.psu.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.371 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu [courtesy copy forwarded by email to cited author] If you have that much space on the HD copy the files from the cd to the HD and install from there. On Sat, 15 Feb 1997 13:17:43 -0500, Robert Munzenrider wrote about "Installing Win95 on a TP701": >My thanks to all who responded to my previous query about how to juggle a >parallel-port cd drive & a floppy on the single special port on the left >side of the 701. Several kind folks suggested that I connect the cd thru >the parallel port on the Port Replicator gizmo.... And HEY! It works!! I've >learned TWO big lessons: > (1) The port replicator has a parallel port > (2) I should read my manuals...... (- Like I said in original > post, I recently inherited this machine) > >But for all that, I again attempted to load the Win95 Upgrade on the 701 >last night, via the cd drive connected thru the parallel port on the Port >Replicator.... >2 problems occurred: > (1) the 95 existing hardware scan wouldn't complete (But everything >runs fine under 3.11 - even the Sound Drivers, and the external port cd >works fine under Win311), so I re-started the upgrade process with the /IS >on the Setup command to skip the scan process; > (2) At the final step of the upgrade process the the little machine >froze up - Zip, Nada. After half an hour I re-booted, which took me into >that crippled Win95 mode - "Safe" - ?? somesuch. > >I never could comlpete the Win95 upgrade cycle. Best I ever could do was the >Safe mode. > >I'm wondering now if anyone out there has words of advice???? >One possible shortcoming in present system: It only has 8 megs of memory; >But there are 400 megs of free space on the hard drive so it should have >plenty of space to swap & thrash, etc. And Like I said, everything works >fine under Win311. > >HELP! BobM, Penn State Harrisburg >about doing a ScanDrive. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 423B78C80FEA5495 CF64AD5F214797DE http://www.asb.com/usr/christij 95E3789C5679C4D7 03210B57E76FE66 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 16 03:04:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA151910281; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:04:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08689; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:03:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:02:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08586; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:02:39 -0500 Received: from www.run.co.il (www.run.co.il [192.116.72.61]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08575; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:02:33 -0500 Received: from [192.116.72.35] by www.run.co.il with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:02:35 +0200 X-Sender: izhar@www.run.co.il Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Izhar Sharon Subject: ActiveX on TP Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:02:35 +0200 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi there, I've tried running Microsoft ActiveX 3 on my TP 760ED and got a blank screen. Any Suggestions? Izhar Sharon izhar@run.co.il Izhar Sharon Project Leader. R.U.N Ltd. Tel: +972-3-645-5010 izhar@run.co.il From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 16 03:07:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA152340445; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:07:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09166; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:06:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:04:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08849; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:04:54 -0500 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08814; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:04:42 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx24-19.teleport.com [206.163.125.243]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA11597; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:04:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:04:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702160804.AAA11597@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Robert Munzenrider From: Bryan Daum Subject: Why install Win95 on a TP701? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You wrote: ... And Like I said, everything works fine under Win311. Bob, like so many others w/701's go through the w95 install blues when 311 works fine. Why make the switch if all was ok? I also know that there are many on the group who have made the switch but there were some suspend/hibernate problems that always scared me off and I never heard whether the pc card issues were solved completely. So, why make the change if all works fine. And if the shift to W95 is to be done are there concessions to the system that must be made and especially to the all important suspend function (for those of us that must use the battery a lot)? Finally and -and sorry for the diversion Bob- could someone tell this non 95 guy whether the problems I've read about are completely resolvable or just managable. Ah, and does the newer 95 help or hurt all this on a 701? Thanks all, Bryan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 16 10:58:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA211828687; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:58:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20674; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:57:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:54:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20345; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:54:42 -0500 Received: from cfa.harvard.edu (cfa.harvard.edu [131.142.10.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20332; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:54:36 -0500 Received: from head-cfa (head-cfa.harvard.edu [131.142.41.8]) by cfa.harvard.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19211 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:54:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from sisko by head-cfa (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA16033; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:54:33 -0500 Received: from starlight by sisko (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA16672; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:54:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:54:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199702161554.KAA16672@sisko> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: kobayash Subject: Nikon Coolpix 100 and TP701 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.12 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, Has anyone tried using the Nikon Coolpix 100 digital camera with a ThinkPad 701? This is the digital camera with a PCMCIA 'card' sticking out of the body (normally slides into the battery pack) that can be inserted in a PCMCIA slot for data transfer. It should be great for use with a laptop; my only concern is that since the keyboard protrudes above the card slot, the camera may not fit properly. The camera is amazingly thin, but still just by looking at the photograph of the camera, it seems to be a close call. Has anyone had a chance to try out this combination? - Ken -- Ken Kobayashi Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics kkobayashi@cfa.harvard.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 16 11:28:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA215970523; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:28:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23554; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:28:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:25:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23331; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:25:43 -0500 Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23313; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:25:37 -0500 Received: from faraday.clas.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa19320; 16 Feb 97 11:25 EST Received: (from jlh2r@localhost) by faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (8.7.6/8.6.6) id LAA46804 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:25:33 -0500 From: John-Lee Pratt Holmes Message-Id: <199702161625.LAA46804@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU> Subject: recharging battery To: thinkpad Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:25:33 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu When re-charging a battery with a thinkpad 755 cdv, or any other models for that matter, is it necessary that one plug directly into an outlet. An ibm tech. support person told a relative of mine that she could not plug into a 5 plug adaptor, that it would not recharge correctly in that condition. Now she gets the critically low tone whenever she turns on the machine, even if the ac is plugged in. Also, am I correct in recalling that the best policy is to always let the battery run down to as low as possible before plugging in for a recharge? Thanks -- jlph John Lee Pratt Holmes Graduate Student, Dept. of Government and Foreign Affairs Univ. of Virginia 319 Alderman Road Charlottesville, VA 22903 (H) 804-977-0016 (W) 924-7969 (The Rotunda) (O) 980-8526 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 16 11:33:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA217020807; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:33:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24172; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:32:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:30:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23923; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:30:40 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23908; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:30:36 -0500 Received: from 701c (liv-35.rust.net [206.42.195.135]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA08063; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:29:42 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970215095810.007023b0@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 14 (32) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 09:58:10 -0500 To: Scott McDermott , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: Introduction, Display & Ethernet question... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have been playing with the X-jack ethernet from Megahertz under 95. You have to download the Win95 driver off their web site. This driver makes a new floppy which loads perfectly through the win95 wizard. No problems with the card or driver and no dongle... >The questions: > >I'm looking for opinions of PCMCIA 10Base-T ethernet cards. Speed, power >use, basic quality, etc. What do you seasoned TP veterans recommend? > >Also, I'm looking to have a full screen DOS session use the whole display. >Particularly would be nice if 320x200 & 640x400/480 games could use the >whole display (or at least more of it!) Is this possible? If so, what's >the solution? > >/* > Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, > King County Library System | Code today, > PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow > */ > > > > B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 16 17:10:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA264411049; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:10:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20181; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:10:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:04:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19643; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:04:33 -0500 Received: from evelyn.acs.psu.edu (evelyn.acs.psu.edu [146.186.165.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19632; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:04:26 -0500 Received: by evelyn.acs.psu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/28Jun94-0252AM) id AA03328; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:04:16 -0500 From: Brian Katz Message-Id: <9702162204.AA03328@evelyn.acs.psu.edu> Subject: Re: recharging battery To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:04:16 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This makes almost no sense to me at all. There is no way for the computer to know whether or not it is plugged into a multiple outlet. And since the wall adapter does not even use ground, there is even less likely a problem. : When re-charging a battery with a thinkpad 755 cdv, or any other : models for that matter, is it necessary that one plug directly : into an outlet. An ibm tech. support person told a relative of : mine that she could not plug into a 5 plug adaptor, that it : would not recharge correctly in that condition. Now she : gets the critically low tone whenever she turns on the machine, : even if the ac is plugged in. This message comes up often. The manual states that the ThinkPads batteries have some circuitry which makes it better NOT TO fully discharge, and that this will REDUCE the life of the battery. I have recently purchased a repaid charger which says that the batteries should be fully discharged periodically, but I am not sure this complies with IBM product design. : Also, am I correct in recalling that the best policy is to : always let the battery run down to as low as possible before : plugging in for a recharge? -Brian -- Acoustics Department ................................. katz@sabine.acs.psu.edu Penn State University ..................... http://www.acs.psu.edu/users/katz/ State College, PA 16802 ................................. (814)863-9832 Office USA ..................................................... (814)865-3119 Fax From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 16 19:50:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA291710612; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:50:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01715; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:31:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:27:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01178; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:27:52 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01150; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:27:43 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-e-56.usc.edu [128.125.222.200]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id QAA03158; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:27:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970216162628.00771f60@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:28:06 -0800 To: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk (Alexander J. Annala) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: 2.1 gb drives (2.5 inch low profile format) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:10 PM 2/15/97 +0000, Alexander J. Annala wrote: >Fry's electronics in Los Angeles had Toshiba 2.1 GB MK-2101MAN >drives available for $494 new. I've seen similar drives in the The *really* thin kind (12 mm or whatever) that will fit in the thin laptops like the 701 and the 560, or the slightly thicker ones (17 mm) that go in the 760's, et al? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 16 19:58:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA293401080; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:58:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01714; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:31:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:27:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01177; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:27:51 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01156; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:27:44 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-e-56.usc.edu [128.125.222.200]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id QAA03147; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:27:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970216162008.0077f5a8@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:28:04 -0800 To: Robert Munzenrider From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Upgrading 701 to Win95 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 02:19 PM 2/14/97 -0500, Robert Munzenrider wrote: >I recently inherited a TP701, and I want to upgrade it from Win3.11 to Win95. > >I'm a little confused by the little port one uses to connect either the >external floppy or a parallel printer. I'm going to need that port to >connect a parallel- port-type Backpack-Brand External CD drive. I will have >to use that cd/port to install Win95 from its Win95 Upgrade CD. >_BUT_, I need to access the A-drive through the same port at some point >during the installation process to make my Win95 StartUp disk. ???? > >My question: Can I unplug my CD connector and then plug in my A-drive, etc. >during the Win95 installation process without disrupting the installation? >Does the TP701 tolerate swapping peripherals connected through that port >while still on-line? I seem to remember having done so myself. >Does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed to install Win95 from a >cd in this little machine? Yes--use the port replicator. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 16 22:25:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA017039912; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:25:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16026; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:24:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:21:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15783; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:21:14 -0500 Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [205.252.116.102]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15773; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:21:10 -0500 Received: from phd-as8s61.erols.com (phd-as8s61.erols.com [207.96.22.133]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA27993 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:20:37 -0500 (EST) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: FS: ThinkPad 701c 24/320/14.4 $1200 From: anderp@erols.com (Paul A. Anderson) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:19:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199702162219223317795@phd-as8s61.erols.com> Organization: Biomedical/Electrical Engineer X-Mailer: MacSOUP 2.2 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu FS: ThinkPad 701c 24/320/14.4 $1200 IBM ThinkPad 701c (Butterfly Keyboard) 24MB RAM (Kingston) 320MB HD 10.4" Active Matrix Display Built-In 14.4 Fax/Modem Contact: Paul A. Anderson (anderp@erols.com) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 16 23:23:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA026113381; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:23:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20777; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:22:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:18:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20518; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:18:21 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (root@TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.38.0.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20508; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:18:16 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (tuna.mit.edu [18.38.0.212]) by tuna.mit.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA15076; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:30:46 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:30:44 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Randy Whittle Cc: "Alexander J. Annala" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2.1 gb drives (2.5 inch low profile format) In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970216162628.00771f60@scf.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Randy Whittle wrote: > At 08:10 PM 2/15/97 +0000, Alexander J. Annala wrote: > >Fry's electronics in Los Angeles had Toshiba 2.1 GB MK-2101MAN > >drives available for $494 new. I've seen similar drives in the > > The *really* thin kind (12 mm or whatever) that will fit in the thin > laptops like the 701 and the 560, or the slightly thicker ones (17 mm) that > go in the 760's, et al? As far as I can tell from a WWW search, the drives ending in MAN are 17mm, the ones ending in MAV are 12.7mm. -- John H. Kim jokim@tuna.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 16 23:31:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA027223906; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:31:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21651; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:29:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:27:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21279; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:26:58 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21244; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:26:46 -0500 Received: from user-37kb96k.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb96k.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.212]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA36696; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:26:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199702170426.XAA36696@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "John-Lee Pratt Holmes" , "thinkpad" Date: Sun, 16 Feb 97 23:26:36 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: recharging battery Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu there are times that if you have the adapter pluged into a power strip or serge protector the system w/n power up when the battery is low. By ether removing the battery and/or pluging into an out will allow the TP to power up. I do not believe that you will gain much by using a serge protector. All batteries have a limited abount of recharging. I think the amount is a few hundred times for the old style batterys to a thousand times for a Lit Iron battery. On Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:25:33 -0500 (EST), John-Lee Pratt Holmes wrote: >When re-charging a battery with a thinkpad 755 cdv, or any other >models for that matter, is it necessary that one plug directly >into an outlet. An ibm tech. support person told a relative of >mine that she could not plug into a 5 plug adaptor, that it >would not recharge correctly in that condition. Now she >gets the critically low tone whenever she turns on the machine, >even if the ac is plugged in. > >Also, am I correct in recalling that the best policy is to >always let the battery run down to as low as possible before >plugging in for a recharge? > >Thanks >-- > jlph > > > >John Lee Pratt Holmes >Graduate Student, Dept. of >Government and Foreign Affairs >Univ. of Virginia > >319 Alderman Road >Charlottesville, VA 22903 >(H) 804-977-0016 >(W) 924-7969 (The Rotunda) >(O) 980-8526 jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 00:03:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA032355816; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:03:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24618; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:02:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:00:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24446; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:00:26 -0500 Received: from unexexch.unex.ucla.edu (exchange.unex.ucla.edu [128.97.115.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24422; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:00:18 -0500 Received: by unexexch.unex.ucla.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC1C4C.40E31F50@unexexch.unex.ucla.edu>; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:59:09 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Swartz, Charles" To: "thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Safest Carrying Case? Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:50:19 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just received my 560 133MHZ. It's a beauty -- I prefer the trade-off of lightness vs. built-ins. In general, which cases best protect against damage if the case is dropped? (That's my biggest concern.) Thanks Charles S. Swartz UCLA Extension From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 00:43:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA038578209; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:43:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28102; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:42:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:38:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27799; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:38:05 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27786; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:38:00 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA01438; Sun, 16 Feb 97 19:37:40 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA10554; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:38:25 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199702170538.TAA10554@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Safest Carrying Case? To: CSwartz@unex.ucla.edu (Swartz, Charles) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 97 19:38:23 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "Swartz, Charles" at Feb 16, 97 8:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I just received my 560 133MHZ. It's a beauty -- I prefer the trade-off > > In general, which cases best protect against damage if the case is > dropped? (That's my biggest concern.) Someone is selling an inflatable case; I may still have the URL, if it survived my various disk crashes. I'll look if anyone expresses interest. (Strictly speaking, it is a normal case with an inflatable insert.) I'd get one for my machines, if I didn't already have cases. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 00:44:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA038728275; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:44:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28205; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:43:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:40:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27967; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:40:37 -0500 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27946; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:40:32 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx15-13.teleport.com [206.163.124.206]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA16769; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:39:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:39:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702170539.VAA16769@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Swartz, Charles" From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: Safest Carrying Case? Cc: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I heard others on this group praise the Port cases described in the TP accessories catalog and I love mine. Works well and convient too at around a hundred bucks for their cheapest model which I bought. But the best laptop insurance is insurance. Covered on the homeowners insurance for low dollars (around $25) and then included some of my work tools on the same rider and includes the all important drop damage. Bryan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 01:00:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA040969225; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:00:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29484; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:59:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:56:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29360; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:56:50 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29348; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:56:43 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24684; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:03:32 -0700 Message-Id: <3307F280.6C6C@wwsi.com> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:54:08 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Swartz, Charles" Cc: "thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Re: Safest Carrying Case? X-Priority: Normal References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I *highly* recommend the Port cases (these are OEMed by IBM as the "official Thinkpad cases"). Especially their shock-absorber sling system, which I have dropped from three feet with no problems at all. Highly recommended over any other notebook cases for any notebook. ssh -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 01:07:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA042479654; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:07:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00398; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:06:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:04:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29960; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:04:10 -0500 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29948; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:04:06 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id GAA88711 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:04:03 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-168.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.168) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smalGgDmb; Mon Feb 17 06:03:57 1997 Message-Id: <3307F4A7.5AF7@ibm.net> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:03:19 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Email List Subject: Memory (32MB) Card for 755? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am looking for a 32MB card for the 755CE (I have a 16MB card in the machine now, and will be needing to swap out the 16 and purchase a 32) ... anyone know a good place to purchase one of those beasties at a good price?? -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. Engineer/Author/Consultant 2 Applied Info & Mgnt Sys, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v: 801-583-8544 e: aimsllc@ibm.net / bangell@cs.utah.edu 4 -------------------------------------------------------- 5 Applied Info & Mngmnt Systems has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet, Notes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCPIP,etc), Custom (AWK-PERL-C-Visualizer), 8 Database dsgn/dev. 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From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 02:02:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA052602954; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:02:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03852; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:01:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:59:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03643; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:59:11 -0500 Received: from mail1-gui.server.virgin.net (mail1-gui.server.virgin.net [194.168.54.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03633; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:59:07 -0500 Received: from default ([194.168.66.240]) by mail1-gui.server.virgin.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-28692) with ESMTP id AAB21255 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:57:32 +0000 From: philip.c@virgin.net (philip.c@virgin.net) To: Subject: Thinkpad mailing list Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:57:16 -0000 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970217065730.AAB21255@default> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sir/Madam, I understand you may run a mailing list for Thinkpad owners. Please could you e-mail me details on your service and how to subscribe. Many thanks, Philip Chaplin philip.c@virgin.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 03:58:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA070579889; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 03:58:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13682; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 03:57:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 03:54:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13137; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 03:54:12 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13117; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 03:54:06 -0500 Received: from luzern_ppp40.tic.ch (luzern_ppp40.tic.ch [193.193.148.42]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA01112; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:56:56 +0100 (MET) Received: by luzern_ppp40.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BC1CB8.2631F660@luzern_ppp40.tic.ch>; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:51:29 -0000 Message-Id: <01BC1CB8.2631F660@luzern_ppp40.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'Scott McDermott'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: More questions! ;) Hibernation problem... Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 01:26:41 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Scott, Well the 'Why' has already been answered. My suggestion to fix the problem would be to create a small FAT partition before the FAT32 partition, where the hibernate function can do its thing... I can't remember how big this should be... I think it's directly related to the RAM you have in your machine. cheers, Andrew. ---------- I'm running Win95 OSR2 with the drive formatted with FAT32. I cannot create a hibernation file, I get the (usual) highly descriptive error message "error creating hibernation file". Is this because of FAT32? If so, when is IBM going to fix it (or are they? I can't see them not, but stranger things have happened...) If it's not a FAT32 problem, any ideas what I can do to fix it? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 07:49:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA105103787; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:49:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07662; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:49:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:46:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07424; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:46:17 -0500 Received: from gwa.ericsson.com (gwa.ericsson.com [198.215.127.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07413; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:46:12 -0500 Received: from mr2.exu.ericsson.se (mr2.exu.ericsson.com [138.85.147.12]) by gwa.ericsson.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id GAA14008 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:45:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (screamer.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.133.13]) by mr2.exu.ericsson.se (8.7.1/NAHUB-MR1.1) with SMTP id GAA14279 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:45:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from rpc1331.rtp.ericsson.se (pc257.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.136.2]) by screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id HAA10319 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:45:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199702171245.HAA10319@screamer.rtp.ericsson.se> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brett Pantalone" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:47:50 -0005 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Memory (32MB) Card for 755? Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <3307F4A7.5AF7@ibm.net> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I am looking for a 32MB card for the 755CE (I have a 16MB > card in the machine now, and will be needing to swap out > the 16 and purchase a 32) ... anyone know a good place to > purchase one of those beasties at a good price?? I recently bought a 16 MB DRAM card for my 755CE from the following source. The salesperson/president was extremely helpful, gave me a good price, and the product arrived on time and in working order. I was very satisfied. Adam Rude, President ERUDITE PRODUCTS CORP. 409 Grand Avenue Englewood, NJ 07631-5715 TEL: 800/310-8505 (US ONLY) TEL: 201/871-7088 FAX: 201/871-8301 EMAIL: sales@epc-online.com WWW: http://www.epc-online.com HOURS: 8:30AM - 5:30PM EDT [Mon-Fri] -- Brett Pantalone Staff Engineer, Ericsson Inc. pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 10:06:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA125751966; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:06:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20667; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:04:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:00:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20179; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:00:37 -0500 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20164; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:00:32 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx04-12.teleport.com [206.163.123.109]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA10397; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:59:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:59:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702171459.GAA10397@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Randy Whittle From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: Upgrading 701 to Win95 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Randy, All this talk is pushing me to tumble to w95. Two questions if you don't mind: You mentioned using the port replicator for the cd -are the pc card types better, worse or same? And if I have to (should) buy one of these cd boxes of either type what is the threshold of reasonably usable speed 2x, 4x, higher? Oh, a third question, ARE there compromises with 701 operation after W95 installation by someone who doesn't know a FAT partition from a skinny one or for that matter what partitioning is and about? Bryan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 13:00:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA162382426; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:00:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10649; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:52:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:31:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08512; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:31:39 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08502; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:31:34 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA122396 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:31:31 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-201.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.201) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaUHsDM2; Mon Feb 17 17:28:19 1997 Message-Id: <33089529.56FF@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:28:09 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Richard Chalk ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry folks, having trouble with email server ... lost Richard Chalk's address (email and otherwise). Richard, I need your address!! -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. Engineer/Author/Consultant 2 Applied Info & Mgnt Sys, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v: 801-583-8544 e: aimsllc@ibm.net / bangell@cs.utah.edu 4 -------------------------------------------------------- 5 Applied Info & Mngmnt Systems has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet, Notes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCPIP,etc), Custom (AWK-PERL-C-Visualizer), 8 Database dsgn/dev. (DB2-SQLserver-Oracle-etc.), Modeling 9 OS's (Win95;Warp/NT Server; AIX / HP-UX / SunOS; OS/400) 10 -------------------------------------------------------- 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sand- 12 wich, they would both be with us today!" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 13:00:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA162452446; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:00:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10644; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:52:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:30:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08389; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:30:27 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08346; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:30:17 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA58998 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:30:02 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-201.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.201) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaUHsDM2; Mon Feb 17 17:28:19 1997 Message-Id: <33089529.56FF@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:28:09 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Richard Chalk ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry folks, having trouble with email server ... lost Richard Chalk's address (email and otherwise). Richard, I need your address!! -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. Engineer/Author/Consultant 2 Applied Info & Mgnt Sys, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v: 801-583-8544 e: aimsllc@ibm.net / bangell@cs.utah.edu 4 -------------------------------------------------------- 5 Applied Info & Mngmnt Systems has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet, Notes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCPIP,etc), Custom (AWK-PERL-C-Visualizer), 8 Database dsgn/dev. (DB2-SQLserver-Oracle-etc.), Modeling 9 OS's (Win95;Warp/NT Server; AIX / HP-UX / SunOS; OS/400) 10 -------------------------------------------------------- 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sand- 12 wich, they would both be with us today!" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 14:28:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA178217730; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:28:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20457; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:20:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:14:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19675; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:14:16 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19656; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:14:08 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA75379 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:14:05 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-215.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.215) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaweoCSM; Mon Feb 17 19:10:32 1997 Message-Id: <3308AD1E.39B1@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:10:22 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 16MB DRAM for 755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a 16MB Parity DRAM module forsale. It has been used in a 755CE without ANY problems ... just upgrading to more memory. I thought I would ask $150 OBO. -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. Engineer/Author/Consultant 2 Applied Info & Mgnt Sys, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v: 801-583-8544 e: aimsllc@ibm.net / bangell@cs.utah.edu 4 -------------------------------------------------------- 5 Applied Info & Mngmnt Systems has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet, Notes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCPIP,etc), Custom (AWK-PERL-C-Visualizer), 8 Database dsgn/dev. (DB2-SQLserver-Oracle-etc.), Modeling 9 OS's (Win95;Warp/NT Server; AIX / HP-UX / SunOS; OS/400) 10 -------------------------------------------------------- 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sand- 12 wich, they would both be with us today!" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 15:29:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA189501377; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:29:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15109; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:30:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:23:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14237; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:23:36 -0500 Received: from netcom12.netcom.com (phr@netcom12.netcom.com [192.100.81.124]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14227; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:23:32 -0500 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id KAA14463; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:23:27 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:23:27 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199702171823.KAA14463@netcom12.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: disks Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >As far as I can tell from a WWW search, the drives ending in MAN are 17mm, >the ones ending in MAV are 12.7mm. This is incorrect, the -MAN drives are 19mm, which is a little bit thicker than the 17mm IBM drives. You have to do a little surgery on the caddies to get the 19mm drives to fit. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 15:32:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA190011542; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:32:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14956; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:29:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:22:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14121; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:22:10 -0500 Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14098; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:22:03 -0500 Received: from faraday.clas.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa24829; 17 Feb 97 13:03 EST Received: (from jlh2r@localhost) by faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (8.7.6/8.6.6) id NAA411046 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:03:40 -0500 From: John-Lee Pratt Holmes Message-Id: <199702171803.NAA411046@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU> Subject: ac adaptor To: thinkpad Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:03:39 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It turns out that the ibm person was probably just trying to eliminate the surge protector as a possible source of the problem. As for recharging, yes I'm sure this is a frequently posted question but I think that's in part because different manuals seem to say different things. My thinkpad 355 manual says that to preserve battery-pack life one should "not charge the battery pack until all of its power is used" and that "Once you start charging the battery pack, do not use it until it is fully charged" which implies that it should be fully drained and then fully charged and this differs from the description another respondant gave and from the advice others have given me. The other problem, btw, turned out to be a defective AC chord adaptor and ibm is shipping a new one. thanks for the input. -- jlph From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 21:15:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA272892138; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:15:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01453; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:14:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:10:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01041; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:10:36 -0500 Received: from relay-6.mail.demon.net (punt2.demon.co.uk [194.217.242.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00958; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:10:21 -0500 Received: from dach.demon.co.uk ([194.222.61.229]) by relay-7.mail.demon.net id aa721784; 18 Feb 97 1:30 GMT From: Chris Alba To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mmdf-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at relay-6.mail.demon.net Subject: "Cursor Creep" Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 01:18:10 -0000 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <856229452.721784.0@dach.demon.co.uk> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, since I reported the creeping cursor with the TP tracker point thingy, I plugged in a REAL mouse and the cursor is now positively LEAPING across the screen on it's own. I am sure I have the latest BIOS etc. I would really appreciate some help with this! All the best, Chris cja@usa.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 21:52:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA279084366; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:52:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01967; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:17:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:13:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01358; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:13:40 -0500 Received: from vortex.uplanet.com (host-165-3.uplanet.com [204.163.165.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01344; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:13:35 -0500 Received: by vortex.uplanet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA20599; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:13:25 -0800 Received: from moat.uplanet.com by vortex.uplanet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA20583; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:13:24 -0800 Received: from mom.hooked.net by moat.uplanet.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01407; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:13:22 -0800 Received: (from jesse@localhost) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) id SAA05192 for jesse@uplanet.com; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:17:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA05171 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:17:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01231; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:11:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:10:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01041; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:10:36 -0500 Received: from relay-6.mail.demon.net (punt2.demon.co.uk [194.217.242.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00958; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:10:21 -0500 Received: from dach.demon.co.uk ([194.222.61.229]) by relay-7.mail.demon.net id aa721784; 18 Feb 97 1:30 GMT From: Chris Alba To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mmdf-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at relay-6.mail.demon.net Subject: "Cursor Creep" Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 01:18:10 -0000 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <856229452.721784.0@dach.demon.co.uk> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu X-Loop: jesse@uplanet.com Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, since I reported the creeping cursor with the TP tracker point thingy, I plugged in a REAL mouse and the cursor is now positively LEAPING across the screen on it's own. I am sure I have the latest BIOS etc. I would really appreciate some help with this! All the best, Chris cja@usa.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 22:08:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA281635304; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:08:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07176; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:07:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:04:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06799; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:04:37 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06787; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:04:32 -0500 From: Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA129546 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 03:04:28 GMT Received: from slip166-72-214-156.ca.us.ibm.net(166.72.214.156) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma5sMDmb; Tue Feb 18 03:03:52 1997 Received: by slip166-72-214-156 (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id TAA001.17; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:04:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199702180004.TAA001.17@slip166-72-214-156> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 97 19:00:05 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: Safest Carrying Case? X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <113_158_4_856224005> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > > I just received my 560 133MHZ. It's a beauty -- I prefer the trade-off > > > > In general, which cases best protect against damage if the case is > > dropped? (That's my biggest concern.) > I bought the large case made by Port. I bought the big one because I needed something long enough to keep my legal pads in. All of the Port cases have a suspended "carrier" in the center where you're ThinkPad goes. That removes shock when walking, running, or dropping the case. The fact that it's in the center protects it from schock when you lay it down flat, like at the airport security check. You can find pictures etc., on the web page of the ThinkPad options page. Lee ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 22:10:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA281815440; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:10:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07698; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:09:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:06:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07113; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:06:54 -0500 Received: from vortex.uplanet.com (host-165-3.uplanet.com [204.163.165.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07096; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:06:48 -0500 Received: by vortex.uplanet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA21404; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:06:42 -0800 Received: from moat.uplanet.com by vortex.uplanet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA21390; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:06:37 -0800 Received: from mom.hooked.net by moat.uplanet.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01463; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:06:36 -0800 Received: (from jesse@localhost) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) id TAA16687 for jesse@uplanet.com; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA16679 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06853; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:04:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:04:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06799; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:04:37 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06787; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:04:32 -0500 From: Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA129546 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 03:04:28 GMT Received: from slip166-72-214-156.ca.us.ibm.net(166.72.214.156) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma5sMDmb; Tue Feb 18 03:03:52 1997 Received: by slip166-72-214-156 (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id TAA001.17; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:04:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199702180004.TAA001.17@slip166-72-214-156> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 97 19:00:05 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: Safest Carrying Case? X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <113_158_4_856224005> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu X-Loop: jesse@uplanet.com Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > > I just received my 560 133MHZ. It's a beauty -- I prefer the trade-off > > > > In general, which cases best protect against damage if the case is > > dropped? (That's my biggest concern.) > I bought the large case made by Port. I bought the big one because I needed something long enough to keep my legal pads in. All of the Port cases have a suspended "carrier" in the center where you're ThinkPad goes. That removes shock when walking, running, or dropping the case. The fact that it's in the center protects it from schock when you lay it down flat, like at the airport security check. You can find pictures etc., on the web page of the ThinkPad options page. Lee ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 22:45:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA287567546; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:45:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11608; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:44:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:40:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11044; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:40:31 -0500 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11024; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:40:25 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA16923 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:39:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:39:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970217223952_-1642176116@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New Pricing Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Please forgive the intrusion. There is new lower pricing for all notebook upgrades, including Hard Drive and CPU upgrades. Please contact me if you would like a copy of our latest upgrade catalog for your system or if you have any questions. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 22:47:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA287967645; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:47:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11788; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:45:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:42:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11236; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:42:55 -0500 Received: from vortex.uplanet.com (host-165-3.uplanet.com [204.163.165.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11210; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:42:48 -0500 Received: by vortex.uplanet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA21985; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:42:44 -0800 Received: from moat.uplanet.com by vortex.uplanet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA21971; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:42:37 -0800 Received: from mom.hooked.net by moat.uplanet.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01520; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:42:33 -0800 Received: (from jesse@localhost) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) id TAA24578 for jesse@uplanet.com; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA24571 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:46:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11108; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:40:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:40:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11044; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:40:31 -0500 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11024; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:40:25 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA16923 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:39:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:39:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970217223952_-1642176116@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New Pricing Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu X-Loop: jesse@uplanet.com Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Please forgive the intrusion. There is new lower pricing for all notebook upgrades, including Hard Drive and CPU upgrades. Please contact me if you would like a copy of our latest upgrade catalog for your system or if you have any questions. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 17 23:15:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA292199349; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:15:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14950; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:13:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:10:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14526; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:10:24 -0500 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14501; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:10:14 -0500 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA28309; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:11:52 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:11:50 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Parker To: "thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Re: Safest Carrying Case? In-Reply-To: <3307F280.6C6C@wwsi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Steve Hultquist wrote: > I *highly* recommend the Port cases (these are OEMed by IBM as the > "official Thinkpad cases"). Especially their shock-absorber sling > system, which I have dropped from three feet with no problems at all. > > Highly recommended over any other notebook cases for any notebook. I use one with my TP560-120 and think it is a wonderful case. Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 18 08:20:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA071812013; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:20:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05022; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:18:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:15:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04766; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:15:41 -0500 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04747; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:15:35 -0500 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA20769; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:15:24 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA856278922; Tue, 18 Feb 97 07:10:37 CST Date: Tue, 18 Feb 97 07:10:37 CST Encoding: 25 Text Message-Id: <9701188562.AA856278922@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, Chris Alba Subject: Re: "Cursor Creep" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As far as creepy things go, my experience has been this . I read somewhere that the Trackpoint will occasionally re-calibrate itself. If you don't let it calibrate itself(about 15 seconds) it will keep trying. Otherwise it should settle down after doing it once. I have also noticed that hooking up an external mouse makes it worse. When I disable the trackpoint from ThinkPad Utilities, the external mouse seems to settle down and work OK. Some external mouses seem to work OK without disabling the Trackpoint. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: "Cursor Creep" Author: Chris Alba at Gateway Date: 2/17/97 8:25 PM Well, since I reported the creeping cursor with the TP tracker point thingy, I plugged in a REAL mouse and the cursor is now positively LEAPING across the screen on it's own. I am sure I have the latest BIOS etc. I would really appreciate some help with this! All the best, Chris cja@usa.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 18 08:48:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA076843733; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:48:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29097; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 07:04:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Feb 1997 06:59:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28290; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 06:59:54 -0500 Received: from lotus.lotus.com (lotus.com [192.233.136.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28278; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 06:59:47 -0500 From: Received: from internet2.lotus.com by lotus.lotus.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA11034; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 06:55:45 -0500 Received: from mta2.lotus.com by internet2.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA14454; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 06:52:15 -0500 Received: by mta2.lotus.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (305.4 1-15-1997)) id 85256442.0041F363 ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 07:00:21 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LOTUS@MTA To: sparker@morgana.punk.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <85256442.0041749E.00@mta2.lotus.com> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 06:59:09 -0400 Subject: Re: Safest Carrying Case? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've got both the Sport Case and Backpack from Port. They're great. I accidentally dropped my TP down a rather long escalator at an airport a couple of months ago and absolutely nothing happened to my 'Pad. I commute by rail and the Backpack is a dream. There's even enough room to carry stuff for an overnight trip !!! -Bill sparker@morgana.punk.net on 02/17/97 11:11:50 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: (bcc: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Subject: Re: Safest Carrying Case? On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Steve Hultquist wrote: > I *highly* recommend the Port cases (these are OEMed by IBM as the > "official Thinkpad cases"). Especially their shock-absorber sling > system, which I have dropped from three feet with no problems at all. > > Highly recommended over any other notebook cases for any notebook. I use one with my TP560-120 and think it is a wonderful case. Steve =========================================================================== = Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) =========================================================================== = From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 18 14:06:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA145992765; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:06:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13273; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:02:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:52:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12458; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:52:02 -0500 Received: from slipgate.keysolutions.com (kenyee.xensei.com [204.96.52.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12373; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:51:41 -0500 Received: by slipgate.keysolutions.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (274.9 11-27-1996)) id 85256442.00676669 ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:49:24 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: KEY ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS From: "Ken K. Yee" To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <85256442.005EAF29.00@slipgate.keysolutions.com> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:17:02 -0400 Subject: Re: Safest Carrying Case? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I heard others on this group praise the Port cases described in > the TP accessories catalog and I love mine. Works well and I heartily agree with the Port. Got the $99 special with my 760CD from an IBM promo. Had my first real test this year. I walked out of a doorway onto what looked like snow but didn't know there was black ice right underneath. I landed on the Port case. My armpit was sore for a week, but I'm typing this article on the 760CD that survived the fall :-) ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 18 16:13:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA176590433; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:13:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09076; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:18:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:07:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08108; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:07:31 -0500 Received: from mail1-gui.server.virgin.net (mail1-gui.server.virgin.net [194.168.54.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08093; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:07:22 -0500 Received: from default ([194.168.57.176]) by mail1-gui.server.virgin.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-28692) with ESMTP id AAA16301 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:05:30 +0000 From: philip.c@virgin.net (philip.c@virgin.net) To: "Thinkpad mailing list" Subject: Wanted: User guide and CD for 760LD Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:17:33 -0000 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970218180514.AAA16301@default> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have just purchased a second-hand Thinkpad 760LD in the United Kingdom. It is not complete however as it is only fitted with the 3.5 inch floppy drive. I am therefore looking for an internal CD ROM (part no. 46H5364) so I can load my software. Secondly I am looking for a second-hand User guide (part no. S62H-6996). If anyone can help, please let me know at philip.c@virgin.net, including the price required and shipping costs. Thank you in anticipation. Philip Chaplin From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 18 20:26:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA234155593; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 20:26:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22274; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 20:23:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Feb 1997 20:20:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22057; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 20:20:22 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22040; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 20:20:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA10951 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:20:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:20:11 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain To: Thinkpad List Subject: Difference between Port cases? Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, I've been successfully convinced by the last few days posts regarding cases that I want a Port, not a Targus. ;) I just wish they didn't cost as much, but better $100 now than $50 now and $2000 later... Anyway, I see 2 cases that are, as far as I can tell with my available resources, the same. The Port Standard case for $92, and the Thinkpad Standard case for $111. What's different about the Thinkpad case that makes it cost more? Anything? Thanks! /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 18 21:12:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA245518330; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 21:12:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27084; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 21:11:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 18 Feb 1997 21:08:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26640; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 21:08:40 -0500 Received: from bcarsde4.localhost (mailgate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26628; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 21:08:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199702190208.VAA26628@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from bcarsfba.ott.bnr.ca by bcarsde4.localhost; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 21:03:16 -0500 Received: from bnr.ca by bcarsfba.bnr.ca id <04257-0@bcarsfba.bnr.ca>; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 20:46:12 -0500 Date: 18 Feb 1997 20:46 EST Sender: "Rob Dickson" To: scottm@kcls.org Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Rob Dickson" Subject: re:Difference between Port cases? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Scott: The "Thinkpad" line of cases come with an additional "Thinkpad Accessory Pouch", which is a small case designed to hold a battery, external floppy drive, etc. It has a piece of foam on the inside, and a metal plate in the lid, to prevent items from puncturing the case. The Accessory Pouches list for around $20US on their own, so this makes the prices for the Thinkpad and non-Thinkpad cases about equal (I am pretty sure that the non-Thinkpad cases don't come with an accessory pouch). Cheers, Rob Dickson dickson@nortel.ca In message "Difference between Port cases?", you write: >Well, I've been successfully convinced by the last few days posts >regarding cases that I want a Port, not a Targus. ;) I just wish they >didn't cost as much, but better $100 now than $50 now and $2000 later... > >Anyway, I see 2 cases that are, as far as I can tell with my available >resources, the same. The Port Standard case for $92, and the Thinkpad >Standard case for $111. What's different about the Thinkpad case that >makes it cost more? Anything? Thanks! > >/* > Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, > King County Library System | Code today, > PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow > */ > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 19 10:30:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA101946230; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:30:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21080; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:27:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:19:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20007; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:19:23 -0500 Received: from megspo1.megsinet.net (megspo.megsinet.net [206.222.62.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19993; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:19:17 -0500 Received: from randolph2er1-3.megsinet.net ([206.222.63.131]) by megspo1.megsinet.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-11704) with SMTP id AAC115 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 09:19:25 -0600 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970219092801.24bf1560@megspo.megsinet.net> X-Sender: chessie@megspo.megsinet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) Subject: Solaris x86 was Intro adn such Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 09:19:25 -0600 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Solaris for x86 ROCKS! Though a bit more hardware demanding, I feel it is more stable and reliable than Linux. My experience was with RedHat 3.0 on my desktop. and it just wans;t stable. Solaris has been a dream. Currently it is 'certified' to run on 750/760's. I wish they would figure out how to get it to run on 701's, but I dream on. Sun is not really backeards compatible, you have to have the hardware they have ported and tested on, unlike linux where people get to work on their machines. If you want more info on x86, go to www.eis.com, www.sun.com or do a search on solaris x86. feel free to contact me as well. Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- chessie@megsinet.net pantazis@uiuc.edu You can still see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 19 14:43:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA161561411; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:43:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21668; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:38:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:30:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20683; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:30:11 -0500 Received: from mail-c.bcc.ac.uk (mail-c.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20653; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:30:06 -0500 Received: from [128.40.81.204] (actually host mouse.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-c.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 19 Feb 1997 19:29:49 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk (Alexander J. Annala) Subject: chessie@megsinet.net Pp-Warning: No Date field - one added at mail-c.bcc.ac.uk Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 19:29:52 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A couple of questions from a frustrated SCO UNIX and LINUX user: o What did Solaris X86 cost? What version do you use? o What was the loading procedure? Does it understand PCMCIA, Adaptec SlimSCSI adaptor? Did it come on a CDROM? Thanks, AJ Annala, University College London From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 19 15:19:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA169603597; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:19:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26725; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:14:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:11:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26295; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:11:08 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26254; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:10:42 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA13841; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:10:23 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199702192010.PAA13841@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: chessie@megsinet.net To: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk (Alexander J. Annala) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:10:22 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: from "Alexander J. Annala" at Feb 19, 97 07:29:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > A couple of questions from a frustrated SCO UNIX and LINUX user: > > o What did Solaris X86 cost? What version do you use? > > o What was the loading procedure? Does it understand PCMCIA, > Adaptec SlimSCSI adaptor? Did it come on a CDROM? Check out http://accesss1.sun.com/drivers/driverMain.html -- there is a link to info on the Solaris x86 Notebook Supplement, which discusses a variety of issues related to running Solaris/x86 on notebooks. The same page has links to driver updates, which are the most up-to-date source of info for supported hardware. I've successfully run both Linux and Solaris/x86 on my 760C, neither extensively. I installed both from a SCSI CD-ROM attached to an Adaptec 1542 in a Dock I. Last I checked, Solaris/x86 could not be installed from a PCMCIA device. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 19 16:44:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA190348620; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:43:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06992; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:34:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:29:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06120; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:29:12 -0500 Received: from lotus.lotus.com (lotus.com [192.233.136.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05739; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:27:36 -0500 From: Received: from internet2.lotus.com by lotus.lotus.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA28419; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:23:14 -0500 Received: from MTA2.lotus.com by internet2.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AB13938; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:19:46 -0500 Received: by mta2.lotus.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (305.4 1-15-1997)) id 85256443.0075E7BA ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:27:50 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LOTUS@MTA To: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <85256443.006D9B59.00@mta2.lotus.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:05:20 -0400 Subject: Re: chessie@megsinet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It costs US$600 retail. However there are competitve upgrades available for around US$150. I use v2.5.1 Client (server costs much more...) with latest service (from Sun web site). It comes on multiple CD's, installs via a kicker disk and then a boot from CD. It understands PCMCIA but is somewhat limited in supported devices. You can check and/or download the compatibility list from the Sun web site. Blows SCO away and is easier than LINUX to install and configure. LINUX tends to support more devices more quickly but Solaris is infinitely more stable. a.annala@ucl.ac.uk on 02/19/97 02:29:52 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: (bcc: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Subject: chessie@megsinet.net A couple of questions from a frustrated SCO UNIX and LINUX user: o What did Solaris X86 cost? What version do you use? o What was the loading procedure? Does it understand PCMCIA, Adaptec SlimSCSI adaptor? Did it come on a CDROM? Thanks, AJ Annala, University College London From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 19 18:53:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA292426417; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 18:53:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21168; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 18:46:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Feb 1997 18:43:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20781; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 18:43:24 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20771; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 18:43:19 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA16967; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 18:09:22 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199702192309.SAA16967@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: chessie@megsinet.net In-Reply-To: <85256443.006D9B59.00@mta2.lotus.com> from "Bill_Abt/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com" at "Feb 19, 97 03:05:20 pm" To: Bill_Abt/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 18:09:22 -0500 (EST) Cc: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > [Solaris/x86] Blows SCO away and is easier > than LINUX to install and configure. LINUX tends to support more devices > more quickly but Solaris is infinitely more stable. The above statement is generally true, but I would like to make some clarifying comments, hoping that they won't start a debate on which OS is "better" than the other. At the kernel level, _release_ versions of Linux OS and Solaris OS are equally stable. Furthermore, a well configured Linux installation is as stable as a well configured Solaris installation. Unfortunately, the difficulties that users have with properly configuring Linux stem from the poor quality of available _distributions_ (e.g. Red Hat, Slackware, Debian, etc), which often contain outdated or alpha/beta versions of system software. Solaris, on the other hand, has commercial quality packaging with well written documentation, user-friendly installation interface, and robust system level software. It is important to understand that properly configuring and using any Linux distribution often requires in depth knowledge of system software management and administration as well as familiarity with software development (for kernel config and recompile), despite recent improvements in distribution quality. The majority of Linux users these days do not have this expertise. Solaris OS isn't any "better" than Linux OS. Rather, it has better packaging so that configuration and use do not require the same level of expertise as is needed for Linux. This "shrinkwrapped" OS can be a worthwhile, though pricey, alternative to Linux. My intention here isn't to discourage interested users from dabbling with Linux but rather to inform them that while running Linux is fairly cheap and easy, running Linux _well_ may require a fair bit of time, effort, and knowledge. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. 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Visit our home page and register for our free givaways http://www.cai.net for sales info contact: products@cai.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 19 21:22:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA043405321; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:22:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06052; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:20:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:16:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05626; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:16:31 -0500 Received: from fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (fep2-orange.clear.net.nz [203.97.32.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05609; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:16:20 -0500 Received: from laptop (d1-u1.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.97.50.65]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.1) with ESMTP id PAA10046; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:16:14 +1300 (NZDT) Message-Id: <199702200216.PAA10046@fep2-orange.clear.net.nz> From: "Fin Macgee" To: Subject: Re: re:Difference between Port cases? Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:11:17 +1300 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Rob Does the Accessory Pouch fit in the Port cases or must it be carried externally? Does anyone have any comments on the Sport Case v the Briefcase? Fin ---------- > From: Rob Dickson > To: scottm@kcls.org > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: re:Difference between Port cases? > Date: Wednesday, 19 February 1997 14:00 > > Scott: > > The "Thinkpad" line of cases come with an additional "Thinkpad > Accessory Pouch", which is a small case designed to hold a battery, > external floppy drive, etc. It has a piece of foam on the inside, > and a metal plate in the lid, to prevent items from puncturing the > case. The Accessory Pouches list for around $20US on their own, so > this makes the prices for the Thinkpad and non-Thinkpad cases about > equal (I am pretty sure that the non-Thinkpad cases don't come with > an accessory pouch). > > > Cheers, > Rob Dickson > dickson@nortel.ca > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 19 22:17:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA057788665; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:17:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11680; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:16:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:13:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11259; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:13:10 -0500 Received: from bcarsde4.localhost (mailgate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11246; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:13:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199702200313.WAA11246@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from bcarsfba.ott.bnr.ca by bcarsde4.localhost; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:07:22 -0500 Received: from bnr.ca by bcarsfba.bnr.ca id <16638-0@bcarsfba.bnr.ca>; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:50:17 -0500 Date: 19 Feb 1997 21:50 EST Sender: "Rob Dickson" To: fin@otp.co.nz Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Rob Dickson" Subject: Re: re:Difference between Port cases? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In message "Re: re:Difference between Port cases?", 'fin@otp.co.nz' writes: >Rob > >Does the Accessory Pouch fit in the Port cases or must it be >carried externally? Fin: Yes, the Accessory Pouch can fit inside the Port case. The dimensions of the Accessory Pouch are about 7"(L)x6"(W)x1.5"(H) when it is full (with the external floppy drive, for example). If you have web access, check out the following URL: http://www.portinc.com/thpouch560po.htm Cheers, Rob Dickson dickson@nortel.ca > >Does anyone have any comments on the Sport Case v the Briefcase? > >Fin > >---------- >> From: Rob Dickson >> To: scottm@kcls.org >> Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >> Subject: re:Difference between Port cases? >> Date: Wednesday, 19 February 1997 14:00 >> >> Scott: >> >> The "Thinkpad" line of cases come with an additional "Thinkpad >> Accessory Pouch", which is a small case designed to hold a battery, >> external floppy drive, etc. It has a piece of foam on the inside, >> and a metal plate in the lid, to prevent items from puncturing the >> case. The Accessory Pouches list for around $20US on their own, so >> this makes the prices for the Thinkpad and non-Thinkpad cases about >> equal (I am pretty sure that the non-Thinkpad cases don't come with >> an accessory pouch). >> >> >> Cheers, >> Rob Dickson >> dickson@nortel.ca >> >> > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 05:37:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA144635046; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:37:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA25538; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:36:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:31:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA23988; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:31:24 -0500 Received: from YOUR-HOST-NAME (slip166-72-214-80.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.214.80]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA23947; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:31:16 -0500 Received: by YOUR-HOST-NAME (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id CAA000.67; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 02:31:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199702200731.CAA000.67@YOUR-HOST-NAME> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 02:31:06 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: re:Difference between Port cases? X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <61_131_4_856423866> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It fits inside. Of course, if you really load it up then it might not. Lee //--- forwarded letter ------------------------------------------------------- > X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 15:11:17 +1300 > From: "Fin Macgee" > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: re:Difference between Port cases? > > Rob > > Does the Accessory Pouch fit in the Port cases or must it be > carried externally? > > Does anyone have any comments on the Sport Case v the Briefcase? > > Fin > > ---------- > > From: Rob Dickson > > To: scottm@kcls.org > > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: re:Difference between Port cases? > > Date: Wednesday, 19 February 1997 14:00 > > > > Scott: > > > > The "Thinkpad" line of cases come with an additional "Thinkpad > > Accessory Pouch", which is a small case designed to hold a battery, > > external floppy drive, etc. It has a piece of foam on the inside, > > and a metal plate in the lid, to prevent items from puncturing the > > case. The Accessory Pouches list for around $20US on their own, so > > this makes the prices for the Thinkpad and non-Thinkpad cases about > > equal (I am pretty sure that the non-Thinkpad cases don't come with > > an accessory pouch). > > > > > > Cheers, > > Rob Dickson > > dickson@nortel.ca > > > > > > ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 09:03:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA175747393; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:03:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13375; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:01:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 08:57:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12828; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 08:57:04 -0500 Received: from relay.ins.net (popp.ins.de [192.129.55.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12816; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 08:56:58 -0500 Received: from news.mlc.de ([194.122.215.34]) by relay.ins.net (8.8.2/INS-1.5.1) with ESMTP id OAA15652 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:55:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from riscy.mlc.de (riscy.mlc.de [193.98.180.65]) by news.mlc.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA19588 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:46:29 +0100 Received: from notesgw by riscy.mlc.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA45128; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:46:02 +0100 Received: by NOTESGW.mlc.de.mlc.de (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.17/1.2) id AA0875; Thu, 20 Feb 97 14:40:50 -0500 Message-Id: <9702201940.AA0875@NOTESGW.mlc.de.mlc.de> Received: by MLC Ratingen (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 6C6AB65AEE82837D41256444004B09B2; Thu, 20 Feb 97 14:40:48 To: thinkpad From: Stefan Tilkov Date: 20 Feb 97 14:42:24 Subject: SelectaDock II + TP 760EL = no sound Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just received my SelectaDock II and played around with it. The only problem I have so far is that Windows NT 4.0 (yes, I've got to use it on a notebook, with 48MB RAM it even works) no longer recognizes the audio (ESS) hardware. This works fine when the TP is undocked. Ideas, anyone? Thanks, Stefan Tilkov st@mlc.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 10:24:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA190692285; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:24:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23770; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:22:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:18:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23243; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:18:45 -0500 Received: from toysrus-bh.tru.com (toysrus-bh.tru.com [206.34.177.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23213; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:18:24 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by toysrus-bh.tru.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id KAA14893 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:11:37 -0500 Received: from news.tru.com by toysrus-bh.tru.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma014883; Thu, 20 Feb 97 10:11:32 -0500 Received: from msg01psp.tru.com by mailgate.tru.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Mar96-0504PM) id AA06858; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:19:39 -0500 Received: by msg01psp.tru.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC1F17.B2112C30@msg01psp.tru.com>; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:20:29 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Crumrine, Mike" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Port cases - near disaster story Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:20:33 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I want to just drop a comment on the port cases. I have two, and use one of them every day. The problem I have found is with the clasp. Mine has come off by itself a lot of times. The first time it happened the whole case slipped from my arm and hit the ground with a sickening solid thunk. The suspension system couldn't help because the case landed squarely on its side. Everything looked OK on my 760cd, but when I fired it up the CD made a sick sound and did not work. I called IBM and explained what happened and they said no problem, they would cover under warranty. I thought that was terrific. I do have the insurance and they also said they would pay, but I just let IBM handle it. The basic design flaw with the clasp is that you push the jointed release *in* to release! My fix has been to put a plastic twist tie (the kind you would use to organize network cable) around the clasp and the ring. I have found it dangling by the twist tie a few times since then. I really do love the case in terms of room and functionality, but felt compelled to share this experience with the list. Mike Crumrine crumrine@usa.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 12:09:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA258228586; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:09:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10557; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:06:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:02:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09654; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:02:22 -0500 Received: from users.buoy.com (root@buoy.com [205.230.163.100]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09595; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:02:03 -0500 Received: from bruce (pool01.buoy.com [205.230.163.201]) by users.buoy.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA23172 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:01:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970220114952.0068ab44@users.buoy.com> X-Sender: bstewart@users.buoy.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:49:54 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "H. Bruce Stewart" Subject: Port cases Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The foam insert in the Accessory Pouch seems to work best as shock protection for a hard drive. I have a second hard drive for L***x, so it's ideal for me. For anyone concerned to make a good impression, the fit and finish of the Port cases is (so far as I know) second to none. To my eye, the Targus cases look ok, but the Port cases draw comments. -Bruce Stewart bstewart@users.buoy.com http://www.scivis.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 12:22:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA261169329; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:22:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12779; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:19:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:16:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12405; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:16:42 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12393; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:16:35 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11878; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:23:28 -0700 Message-Id: <330C864A.A9B@wwsi.com> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:13:46 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "H. Bruce Stewart" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Port cases X-Priority: Normal References: <3.0.32.19970220114952.0068ab44@users.buoy.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu H. Bruce Stewart wrote: > For anyone concerned to make a good impression, the > fit and finish of the Port cases is (so far as I know) > second to none. To my eye, the Targus cases look ok, > but the Port cases draw comments. Especially the leather one... I *love* leather... ;-) -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 13:15:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA275432502; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:15:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20215; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:13:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:09:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19788; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:09:08 -0500 Received: from wjh.harvard.edu (wjh.harvard.edu [128.103.8.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19776; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:09:02 -0500 Received: from koateus (munson.wjh.harvard.edu [140.247.93.103]) by wjh.harvard.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA23522 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:08:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970220130843.006856b8@wjh.harvard.edu> X-Sender: munson@wjh.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:08:46 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Ziad Munson Subject: TP701, port replicator, and Win95 problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I have a 701CS running Win95 and am trying to get the parallel port on the port replicator to work. Win95 disables it because of resource conflicts-- specifically, the interrupt request settings-- with the ESS AudioDrive and the number 2 parallel port (which I'm assuming is the disk drive?). The problem is that the computer won't let me change any of these setting manually; when I try, I get a "this setting cannot be changed" error. Have any other people had this problem? Any ideas on a solution? Thanks for your help, Ziad *********************************************************** * Ziad Munson phone: 617-483-3483 * * Department of Sociology fax: 617-496-5794 * * Harvard University email: munson@wjh.harvard.edu * *********************************************************** From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 14:20:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA291566447; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:20:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27811; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:17:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:14:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27337; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:13:59 -0500 Received: from isomedia.com (mail.isomedia.com [204.157.237.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27317; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:13:52 -0500 Received: from billprat (pm2-014.isomedia.com [206.129.160.78]) by isomedia.com (8.6.10/8) with ESMTP id LAA24617; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:11:40 -0800 Message-Id: <199702201911.LAA24617@isomedia.com> From: "Bill Pratt" To: , "Ziad Munson" Subject: Re: TP701, port replicator, and Win95 problems Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:02:13 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Here are my settings. Yours should me corrected to the same settings via the ThinkPad configuration settings. They are as follows: Multiport II: Serial _1 (0x3f8, IRQ 4 Infrared - disabled Serial Port_2 0X2F8, IRQ 3 Par/Disk - Par._2, alt epp, 0X378, IRQ5 Par. Port - Par. _1 )X3BC, IRQ 7 Audio Port - Port 0X22, IRQ 10, DMA0 Go to your setup, "Fn. F1", modify these settings...(if you know how...it is not hard to learn) Then go to Control Panel in Win/95, then system, then device manager, click all the "+"'s and then delete the Ports, Ser. and Par., and delete the sound. Don't panic...deleting will be your friend. Then shut down your computer...turn it off!!! Now turn it back on...and Win/95 will automatically reinstall your hardware. Have your Win/95 disks or CD ROM handy if it needs any drivers. This method should work without a hitch. Win/95 will solve the conflicts and give you a properly operating computer. Let me know if it works for you. Finally, IBM customer support can walk you through the entire process...no charge. Bill Pratt, Bellevue, WA "No matter where you go...there you are"! billp117@isomedia.com http://www.isomedia.com/homes/billp117 ---------- > From: Ziad Munson > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: TP701, port replicator, and Win95 problems > Date: Thursday, February 20, 1997 10:08 AM > > Hello, > > I have a 701CS running Win95 and am trying to get the parallel port on the > port replicator to work. Win95 disables it because of resource conflicts-- > specifically, the interrupt request settings-- with the ESS AudioDrive and > the number 2 parallel port (which I'm assuming is the disk drive?). The > problem is that the computer won't let me change any of these setting > manually; when I try, I get a "this setting cannot be changed" error. > > Have any other people had this problem? Any ideas on a solution? > > Thanks for your help, > > Ziad > > > *********************************************************** > * Ziad Munson phone: 617-483-3483 * > * Department of Sociology fax: 617-496-5794 * > * Harvard University email: munson@wjh.harvard.edu * > *********************************************************** From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 15:41:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA015321293; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:41:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08685; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:38:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:35:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08328; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:35:48 -0500 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08185; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:35:21 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA111732 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 20:35:10 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-182.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.182) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smawUYDe7; Thu Feb 20 20:35:07 1997 Message-Id: <330CB563.6462@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:34:43 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Email List Subject: 2.1G Drives in a TP755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anyone had any luck getting a 2.1G drive working in a TP755 series? I keep getting a 174 error upon bootup. -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. Engineer/Author/Consultant 2 Applied Info & Mgnt Sys, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v: 801-583-8544 e: aimsllc@ibm.net / bangell@cs.utah.edu 4 -------------------------------------------------------- 5 Applied Info & Mngmnt Systems has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet, Notes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCPIP,etc), Custom (AWK-PERL-C-Visualizer), 8 Database dsgn/dev. (DB2-SQLserver-Oracle-etc.), Modeling 9 OS's (Win95;Warp/NT Server; AIX / HP-UX / SunOS; OS/400) 10 -------------------------------------------------------- 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sand- 12 wich, they would both be with us today!" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 16:00:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA023112437; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:00:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11469; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:58:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:55:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11047; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:55:44 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10986; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:55:24 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA79307; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 20:55:14 GMT Received: from unknown(204.146.159.202) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaxXgDFW; Thu Feb 20 20:54:54 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970220155335.01356ad0@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> X-Sender: jloyles@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:53:35 -0500 To: aimsllc@ibm.net From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: 2.1G Drives in a TP755 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <330CB563.6462@ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:34 PM 2/20/97 -0700, you wrote: >Anyone had any luck getting a 2.1G drive working in a TP755 >series? I keep getting a 174 error upon bootup. > I have one of the IBM 2.1G ones working in a TP755CE. I had already updated the bios, so all I did was pop it in and it worked fine. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 16:51:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA038715515; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:51:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07620; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:30:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:24:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06621; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:24:17 -0500 Received: from trl.sdl.usu.edu (vishy@trl.sdl.usu.edu [129.123.190.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06594; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:24:09 -0500 Received: (from vishy@localhost) by trl.sdl.usu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA24383; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:24:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:24:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199702202124.OAA24383@trl.sdl.usu.edu> From: Vishy Swaminathan To: chessie@megsinet.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: (a.annala@ucl.ac.uk) Subject: Does Solaris support mwave..? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I am running Linux on my 755CD. My only complaint is that I cannot use my Mwave modem. Does Solaris support Mwave modem ? Vishy Swaminathan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 17:14:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA047156845; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:14:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18808; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:11:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:06:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18089; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:06:21 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17947; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:05:53 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IFN57TPKN499EJX1@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:05:22 MST Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:47:05 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: 2.1G Drives in a TP755 In-Reply-To: "Message dated Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:34:43 -0700" <330CB563.6462@ibm.net> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IFN5YNRJ1Q99EJX1@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Anyone had any luck getting a 2.1G drive working in a TP755 > series? I keep getting a 174 error upon bootup. The hardware maint. manual says first check the device configuration. Assuming it works otherwise, it's most likely either this or the disk drive itself. The manual also suggest reseating the connector, which if it'd been plugged in for any length of time would burnish whatever crud and/or oxidation that might have accumulated on the contacts. Maybe this is a drive select jumper setting problem (just guessing)..? You may need the latest BIOS - I remember seeing some note in with it about a 2.1 gig fix (only change listed from the last version). I have a 755CE - there are also the 755C, 755Cs and 755CD which may use a different BIOS (don't know). Anyway no matter which it's available from ftp.pc.ibm.com in the pub/pccbbs/mobiles dir - get the file named 0listing.txt first - it is descriptions of everything available. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 17:20:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA048387202; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:20:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28211; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:21:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:18:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27836; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:17:59 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27804; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:17:48 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12391; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:11:37 -0700 Message-Id: <330C9FA2.1B98@wwsi.com> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:01:54 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Nick Rushizky Cc: "H. Bruce Stewart" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Port cases X-Priority: Normal References: <3.0.32.19970220122136.0095e7a0@atlas.mis.mei.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, the leather case looks like a lot of the large executive briefcases that I've seen. The "briefcase", however, doesn't. ssh -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 17:23:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA049087409; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:23:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22253; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:28:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:25:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21868; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:25:06 -0500 Received: from atlas.corp.mei.com (atlas.mis.mei.com [151.186.47.172]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21820; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:24:55 -0500 Received: from KOLYA (KOLYA [151.186.47.91]) by atlas.corp.mei.com (NTMail 3.02.10) with ESMTP id xa007121 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:24:09 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970220122136.0095e7a0@atlas.mis.mei.com> X-Sender: nick@atlas.mis.mei.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:21:37 -0600 To: Steve Hultquist , "H. Bruce Stewart" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Nick Rushizky Subject: Re: Port cases Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, leather is all fine and good (hey, I like a dead cow in my hand as much as the next guy) but I'll go for a case that resembles anything but a laptop bag, as often as I can. Not to the point that if I run around town, I won't just use the small bag, but if I can, I'd rather go covert with the darn thing. Now, if someone can make a really nice laptop case, that doesn't look like it's got a PC, that would be great! At 10:13 AM 2/20/97 -0700, Steve Hultquist wrote: >H. Bruce Stewart wrote: >> For anyone concerned to make a good impression, the >> fit and finish of the Port cases is (so far as I know) >> second to none. To my eye, the Targus cases look ok, >> but the Port cases draw comments. > >Especially the leather one... I *love* leather... ;-) >-- >Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. >Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado >mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ > Nick Rushizky Nick@atlas.corp.mei.com Marquette Medical Systems From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 17:31:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA053577913; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:31:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21814; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:29:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:26:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21226; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:26:36 -0500 Received: from cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21131; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:26:17 -0500 Received: from mcneelybn_1 (bnm.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.150.16]) by cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id RAA10646; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:26:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970220172632.00949150@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: bnm@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:26:32 -0500 To: aimsllc@ibm.net From: bnm@ornl.gov (Brooks McNeely) Subject: Re: 2.1G Drives in a TP755 Cc: Thinkpad Email List In-Reply-To: <330CB563.6462@ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:34 PM 2/20/97 -0700, Bob Angell wrote: >Anyone had any luck getting a 2.1G drive working in a TP755 >series? I keep getting a 174 error upon bootup. > I have a TP755C (L0G). I've tended to keep the BIOS upgraded when I notice a new version. Desiring a large drive, I bought a 2.1Gb drive from Sigma last summer. It is supposed to be an IBM Travelstar drive, and had the price to prove it . I just plugged it in, and it worked. I did have a problem with hibernation not working, but I got side-tracked, and have never pursued the problem. Doubt this will be of much help. Brooks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 18:58:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA082473133; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 18:58:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02693; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 18:57:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 18:53:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02249; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 18:53:41 -0500 Received: from lotus.lotus.com (lotus.com [192.233.136.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02237; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 18:53:33 -0500 From: Received: from internet2.lotus.com by lotus.lotus.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA20424; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 18:49:14 -0500 Received: from mta2.lotus.com by internet2.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07164; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 18:45:46 -0500 Received: by mta2.lotus.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (305.4 1-15-1997)) id 85256444.00833560 ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 18:53:08 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LOTUS@MTA To: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu Cc: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <85256444.00093003.00@mta2.lotus.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 20:47:19 -0400 Subject: Re: chessie@megsinet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I agree totally. Quality wise if (and sometimes it a BIG IF) you can get a quality distribution of Linux with all the right drivers and such the system's are about equal. IMH (and very subjective ) O, I just feel that Solaris may be a bit more equal among equals... Either way I run both and enjoy a love/hate relaationship with both... -Bill P.S. Java support however, is realized faster on Solaris than Linux, but that makes sense, right ;-) ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu on 02/19/97 06:09:22 PM To: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus cc: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (bcc: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Subject: Re: chessie@megsinet.net > [Solaris/x86] Blows SCO away and is easier > than LINUX to install and configure. LINUX tends to support more devices > more quickly but Solaris is infinitely more stable. The above statement is generally true, but I would like to make some clarifying comments, hoping that they won't start a debate on which OS is "better" than the other. At the kernel level, _release_ versions of Linux OS and Solaris OS are equally stable. Furthermore, a well configured Linux installation is as stable as a well configured Solaris installation. Unfortunately, the difficulties that users have with properly configuring Linux stem from the poor quality of available _distributions_ (e.g. Red Hat, Slackware, Debian, etc), which often contain outdated or alpha/beta versions of system software. Solaris, on the other hand, has commercial quality packaging with well written documentation, user-friendly installation interface, and robust system level software. It is important to understand that properly configuring and using any Linux distribution often requires in depth knowledge of system software management and administration as well as familiarity with software development (for kernel config and recompile), despite recent improvements in distribution quality. The majority of Linux users these days do not have this expertise. Solaris OS isn't any "better" than Linux OS. Rather, it has better packaging so that configuration and use do not require the same level of expertise as is needed for Linux. This "shrinkwrapped" OS can be a worthwhile, though pricey, alternative to Linux. My intention here isn't to discourage interested users from dabbling with Linux but rather to inform them that while running Linux is fairly cheap and easy, running Linux _well_ may require a fair bit of time, effort, and knowledge. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 19:16:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA087724179; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:16:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04126; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:14:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:11:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03763; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:10:58 -0500 Received: from hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu [129.65.26.104]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03740; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:10:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (mfukatsu@localhost) by hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (8.6.9/ELEE) with SMTP id QAA25474; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:10:04 -0800 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:10:04 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Fukatsu To: Vishy Swaminathan Cc: chessie@megsinet.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Does Solaris support mwave..? In-Reply-To: <199702202124.OAA24383@trl.sdl.usu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My guess would be no. I believe linux supports much more hardware than solaris does. -Mike On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Vishy Swaminathan wrote: > Hi, > > I am running Linux on my 755CD. My only complaint is that I cannot > use my Mwave modem. Does Solaris support Mwave modem ? > Vishy Swaminathan > -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 20:46:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA106349583; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 20:46:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13584; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 20:44:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 20:41:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13379; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 20:41:48 -0500 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13367; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 20:41:39 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx21-09.teleport.com [206.163.125.138]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA06821; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:40:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:40:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702210140.RAA06821@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Crumrine, Mike" From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: Port cases - near disaster story Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yes, a good alert. I presume -with slipped from your arm- that you are speaking of the darn strap clasps- I was able to catch mine when it let go TWICE. So now I always watch it and have thought I'd get around to replacing them. It appears that the problem is a twisting motion of the strap connections that usually swivel -but sometimes jam somehow. Both times it was when I was picking it up by the strap: "Don't do dat." Bryan At 10:20 AM 2/20/97 -0500, you wrote: >I want to just drop a comment on the port cases. I have two, and use one >of them every day. > >The problem I have found is with the clasp. Mine has come off by itself >a lot of times. The first time it happened the whole case slipped from >my arm and hit the ground with a sickening solid thunk. The suspension >system couldn't help because the case landed squarely on its side. >Everything looked OK on my 760cd, but when I fired it up the CD made a >sick sound and did not work. I called IBM and explained what happened >and they said no problem, they would cover under warranty. I thought >that was terrific. I do have the insurance and they also said they would >pay, but I just let IBM handle it. > >The basic design flaw with the clasp is that you push the jointed >release *in* to release! My fix has been to put a plastic twist tie (the >kind you would use to organize network cable) around the clasp and the >ring. I have found it dangling by the twist tie a few times since then. >I really do love the case in terms of room and functionality, but felt >compelled to share this experience with the list. > >Mike Crumrine >crumrine@usa.net > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 20:54:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA107600043; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 20:54:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07037; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:36:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:32:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06515; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:32:53 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06503; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:32:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id QAA14384 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:32:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:32:32 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Does Solaris support mwave..? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Michael Fukatsu wrote: > My guess would be no. I believe linux supports much more hardware than > solaris does. I suspect that Solaris will support MWave before Linux, as IBM won't tell anyone how to use their chip, and SUN is far more likely to get help from IBM than J. Random Hacker. I'll actually be surprised (though pleasantly) if either one ever supports MWave... /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 21:13:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA111201220; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:13:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16906; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:11:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:08:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16434; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:08:41 -0500 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16417; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:08:36 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id CAA17564 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 02:08:27 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-244.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.244) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma0mwDmb; Fri Feb 21 02:08:11 1997 Message-Id: <330D0370.305F@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:07:44 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 2.1G Hard Drive on a 755 series Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am getting a 174 error upon bootup when I put in a 2.1 gig hard drive into my 755CE. I have upgraded my bios to the latest level with no results ... anyone else run into this problem??? -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. Engineer/Author/Consultant 2 Applied Info & Mgnt Sys, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v: 801-583-8544 e: aimsllc@ibm.net / bangell@cs.utah.edu 4 -------------------------------------------------------- 5 Applied Info & Mngmnt Systems has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet, Notes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCPIP,etc), Custom (AWK-PERL-C-Visualizer), 8 Database dsgn/dev. (DB2-SQLserver-Oracle-etc.), Modeling 9 OS's (Win95;Warp/NT Server; AIX / HP-UX / SunOS; OS/400) 10 -------------------------------------------------------- 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sand- 12 wich, they would both be with us today!" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 21:23:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA113671834; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:23:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18213; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:20:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:18:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17858; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:17:56 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17847; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:17:52 -0500 Received: by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA15441; Thu, 20 Feb 97 15:57:58 HST From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <9702210157.AA15441@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> Subject: TP701 (non)repair experiences To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 15:57:57 HST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dear fellow Thinkpaders, As some of you know, I started having major problems with my TP701C at the end of November - an intermittent error where the HD (and sometimes the configuration utility) would disappear as far as the system was concerned, usually after 30 minutes to an hour of operation. The machine went back to EZ-Serve a couple of times - they replaced the bottom system board, then (for no discernible reason) they replaced the IR port, and later tried a drive swap. Each time the machine would work well for a day or two after its return, then deteriorate to a worse state than before the repair. Finally, they gave up and sent me a replacement remanufactured machine. (I objected to this when they told me their plans, since I've had mixed sucess with refurbs from other companies, but they told me there was no alternative, besides which they assured me that the refurbishment was to original factory specs.) This was a duplicate of my original machine, including small HD, old BIOS and a Nicad battery. I worked hard over the weekend reinstalling all the software I regularly use, and was preparing to transfer one last file, when a problem arose - the new multiport died. I still hadn't sent back the old machine, and the multiport from that one works fine on the replacement machine, but the one that came with the new machine has an electronic fault (ports no longer appear in the config utility). This was just the sort of thing I'd been afraid of, and when it happened I was furious. I called IBM and griped rather loudly - here I'd been without reliable use of the machine for two months, and the replacement they'd sent over my objections was also defective. The IBM rep feigned sympathy, but when I suggested that IBM owed me *something* for my pains, he got snitty, and told me that his only obligation under the warrantee was to make sure I had a working machine, which I had (provided I kept the working multiport). Am I being unreasonable here? Based on my wife's experiences getting repairs on the IBMs in her office, and my own experience with some screen repairs on my 701C last summer, I used to use words like "fabulous" when referring to EZ-serve and IBM customer relations. No more. BTW, this has already cost IBM a certain amount of business. I'd budgeted in my current grant for a new high-end laptop, and had planned to get a TP760; because of these problems, I bought a Micron. My wife cancelled *her* order for a TP, and is now getting a TI. (In her case, the decision was reinforced by the fact that a new IBM730 desktop she'd ordered arrived malfunctioning [and has still not been fixed several weeks later].) While I'm personally only responsible for one or two system purchases annually, I have some influence over many purchases, and will likely recommend against IBM, more because of their attitude here than because of their reliability record (which I don't think is much worse than other makes). - David R. (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 22:55:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA130827343; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 22:55:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28872; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 22:54:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 22:51:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28622; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 22:51:25 -0500 Received: from enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28599; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 22:51:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 25076 invoked from network); 21 Feb 1997 03:50:52 -0000 Received: from baphomet-1.d.enteract.com (207.229.148.1) by babel.enteract.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 1997 03:50:52 -0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Just stopped in to wave! Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 03:07:35 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <331010b0.2811786@smtp.enteract.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I got my unsubscribe confirmation today, so I'm now officially off the list. I did want to stop by and thank everyone for the kind emails I received, and mention again how much I enjoyed brainstorming with the = group about the 701 (the buyer's picking it up tomorrow). See you guys on comp.sys.laptops! Emanuel Brown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 20 23:25:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA135859140; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:25:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02160; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:24:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:22:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01810; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:22:00 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01799; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:21:53 -0500 Received: from user-37kb97l.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb97l.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.245]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA211690; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:21:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199702210421.XAA211690@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Stefan Tilkov" , "thinkpad" Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 23:21:45 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SelectaDock II + TP 760EL = no sound Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Off the top of my head, make sure that the IRQ for the ESS Audio is 5 & not something else. On 20 Feb 97 14:42:24, Stefan Tilkov wrote: >I just received my SelectaDock II and played around with it. The only problem I >have so far is that Windows NT 4.0 (yes, I've got to use it on a notebook, with >48MB RAM it even works) no longer recognizes the audio (ESS) hardware. This >works fine when the TP is undocked. 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From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 00:36:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA147913364; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:36:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09115; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:00:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:53:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07332; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:52:58 -0500 Received: from cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07270; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:52:41 -0500 Received: from mcneelybn_1 (bnm.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.150.16]) by cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA28732; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:52:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970220115213.0090cab0@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: bnm@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:52:13 -0500 To: "Swartz, Charles" From: bnm@ornl.gov (Brooks McNeely) Subject: Re: Safest Carrying Case? Cc: "thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:50 PM 2/16/97 -0800, Swartz, Charles wrote: >In general, which cases best protect against damage if the case is >dropped? (That's my biggest concern.) > I use a case called a "DoubleCase" (TM). I ran across it several years ago at Comdex. The company was located in Colorado (I think). The cases come in several sizes; I got the smallest which fits my 755C snuggly. It has a hard outer shell which is some kind of plastic polymer which is virtually indestructible in use. The inside has foam cube inserts which can be easily cut out to conform to the size of the equipment being stored. It's about the size of a small typewriter case. Since my computer takes up most of the room inside the case, I also got another DoubleCase product called a "saddle-bag" which fits over the computer case quite a bit like saddle bags on a horse. I can carry my AC adapter, battery, surge suppressor, telephone cord, etc in the saddle-bag with room for several other incidentals. I've always felt my computer safe in this case, and I've never have had any damage. But I must admit I've never had any really bad accident (drop-kicked down a flight of stairs or worse); mostly just being slung around a car, or falls from a coffee table. I've been very pleased. The cases were a little pricey, but I got a good deal at Comdex (both for about $100-150 total - I've forgotten). Brooks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 03:00:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA176822007; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 03:00:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16382; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 02:06:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 02:04:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15979; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 02:04:02 -0500 Received: from wolfe.net (mail1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15969; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 02:03:58 -0500 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com (sea-ts5-p07.wolfenet.com [204.157.102.41]) by wolfe.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id XAA14876 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:05:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970220230323.006992e8@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: pele@popserv.wolfenet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:03:23 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: clean screen question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What's the best way to clean a dirty TP screen, i.e., what solution applied with what? Thanks. -- Peter Lewis pele@wolfenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 09:29:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA241835371; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:29:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12241; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:25:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:21:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11797; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:21:01 -0500 Received: from VNET.IBM.COM (vnet.ibm.com [199.171.26.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11786; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:20:57 -0500 Received: from BOULDER by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 3534; Fri, 21 Feb 97 09:20:47 EST Received: by BOULDER (XAGENTA 4.0) id 7921; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:20:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by a1a.boulder.ibm.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA53672; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:19:22 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:19:21 -0700 (MST) From: "Tony Apuzzo" X-Sender: apuzzo@a1a.boulder.ibm.com To: Nick Rushizky Cc: Steve Hultquist , "H. Bruce Stewart" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Port cases In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970220122136.0095e7a0@atlas.mis.mei.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Nick Rushizky wrote: > Well, leather is all fine and good (hey, I like a dead cow in my hand as > much as the next guy) but I'll go for a case that resembles anything but a > laptop bag, as often as I can. Not to the point that if I run around town, > I won't just use the small bag, but if I can, I'd rather go covert with the > darn thing. > > Now, if someone can make a really nice laptop case, that doesn't look like > it's got a PC, that would be great! "Lands' End" mail-order retailer has a pretty nice laptop case (I've only seen it in their catalog) Unfortunatley, I couldn't find a picture on www.landsend.com. You could get them to send you a catalog, I'm sure. -Tony From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 09:54:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA246656883; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:54:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15509; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:53:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:50:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15075; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:49:57 -0500 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15050; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:49:49 -0500 Received: from CLAUDIA ([129.126.232.4]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA28048 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:48:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199702211448.AA28048@kodakr.kodak.com> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:58:00 -0500 From: "King, Randall" Subject: Laptop cases To: thinkpad X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Just wanted to drop my $.02 in. I had an old IBM bag (that came with a 700!), and it was great. I finally retired it this week, because the shoulder strap is almost ripped through, and I can't find anything that fits it. I went and bought a Targus Backpack this week, and so far the only complaint I have is the lack of padding in the interior compartment. The bottom of the case seems a little hard, so I am going to scavenge some of the padding from the old case. The internal compartment is padded, but not enough to survive what I put a bag through. BTW: The old IBM case I had was great! I've dropped my fair share of PC's (4-5) in it over the span of a few years, and only had one of them come out severly damaged. Not bad considering I transport about 75 laptops a year from site to site. RK From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 10:59:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA260200794; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:59:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27526; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:58:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:54:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27007; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:54:52 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26971; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:54:43 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id HAA27710; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:54:40 -0800 Received: from hi-av1.cadence.com(158.140.128.31) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma856540479.027707; Fri Feb 21 07:54:39 1997 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (sj4a-10.cadence.com [158.140.31.20]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA11996; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:54:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:54:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702211554.HAA11996@mailhub.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Brett Pantalone" From: Don Perley Subject: Re: clean screen Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:33 AM 2/21/97 -0005, Brett Pantalone wrote: >The manual for my 755CE says to use a soft, dry cloth for cleaning >the LCD. I have used alcohol wipes in the past, which worked very >well, but the manual specifically says not to do this. I'm worried >that a dry cloth might scratch the polarized coating on the screen, >but that's what the book says to do. > You could just get an eyeglass cleaning kit with spray cleaner and a soft cloth. If they won't scratch plastic lenses with daily use they should be ok for the computer screen. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 13:14:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA290358866; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:14:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16384; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:08:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:00:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14909; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:00:18 -0500 Received: from netcom7.netcom.com (phr@netcom7.netcom.com [192.100.81.115]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14876; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:00:09 -0500 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA08253; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:59:58 -0800 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:59:58 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199702211759.JAA08253@netcom7.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: laptop cases Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I think I've mentioned this before, but my favorite laptop cases are big lumbar packs like the Dana Designs Jefferson and Bangtail. These are belt packs with a backpack-like suspension and padded hip belt, so you can carry them hands-free with -no- weight on your shoulders. Since the weight is all supported by your hips, you can easily carry a 7 lb laptop and lots of additional stuff all day and barely notice that it's there. Also, they don't look at all like laptop cases; the appearance is more like an ordinary book-style backpack. I generally don't carry my laptop around, but use my Jefferson every day just to carry general stuff in as I like it a lot better than a briefcase or backpack. The Jefferson has a drawstring top and is more like a backpack; the Bangtail has a zipper top and is more like a portfolio briefcase, and it holds slightly less stuff than the Jefferson. The one drawback with these packs is they're expensive at around $100 each but I think they're worth it. The manufacturer, Dana Designs, is in Bozeman MT and can presumably send you a catalog and tell you where nearby dealers are (get phone# from directory assistance). Their product line is intended as high end camping equipment (fancy backpacks etc.) and I have one of their hiking packs, but I also find that their belt packs are ideal for daily use in the city. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 13:37:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA295240233; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:37:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19828; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:33:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:30:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19339; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:30:15 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19243; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:29:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id KAA23829 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:29:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:29:27 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Does Solaris support mwave..? (fwd) Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Don Perley wrote: > Don't forget that some of those J. Random Hacker linux users already work > at IBM. Not that they could just throw proprietary code out to the public, > but if you've got a buddy who's an MWAVE developer you can probably pick up > some hints when the publicly available information seems unclear. While there is some validity in this line of thought, if that was the case I'd have thought we'd have seen at least mention of someone dabbling with it, which we haven't (to the best of my knowledge). One of the reasons I bought my 755 was because it had the MWave, specifically for the 28.8 modem. While I would like to run Linux (or Solaris) on it, I can't justify buying a PCMCIA modem just so I can run my OS of choice... If I thought I could do it, I'd try to reverse engineer the driver, but I have found that I can not yet walk on water. /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 15:23:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA019386585; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:23:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03145; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:14:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:02:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00899; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:02:20 -0500 Received: from hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu [129.65.26.104]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00848; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:02:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (mfukatsu@localhost) by hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (8.6.9/ELEE) with SMTP id MAA27510; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 12:01:41 -0800 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 12:01:40 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Fukatsu To: Scott McDermott Cc: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Does Solaris support mwave..? (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I too have been waiting for someone to write some mwave drivers, and I've searched the net exhastively for any inkling of interest in the subject. I remember reading a post by someone who said they used to work at ibm on the mwave stuff, and that it would be more trouble than it's worth to write mwave drivers for linux. I patiently waited for the mwave drivers to be written by some generous hacker/guru, saying that I could not justify buying a PCMCIA modem, but as I tired of the MS stuff I gave in, bought a 33.6 PCMCIA modem and haven't been happier! On my 755CD, I noticed you can't use the mwave modem when the mwave sound drivers have Q-sound enabled. It crashes the modem, so now I can use the modem and the sound full tilt. I only use win95 about 1 or 2 times a month -mike On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Scott McDermott wrote: > On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Don Perley wrote: > > > Don't forget that some of those J. Random Hacker linux users already work > > at IBM. Not that they could just throw proprietary code out to the public, > > but if you've got a buddy who's an MWAVE developer you can probably pick up > > some hints when the publicly available information seems unclear. > > While there is some validity in this line of thought, if that was the case > I'd have thought we'd have seen at least mention of someone dabbling with > it, which we haven't (to the best of my knowledge). > > One of the reasons I bought my 755 was because it had the MWave, > specifically for the 28.8 modem. While I would like to run Linux (or > Solaris) on it, I can't justify buying a PCMCIA modem just so I can run my > OS of choice... If I thought I could do it, I'd try to reverse engineer > the driver, but I have found that I can not yet walk on water. > > /* > Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, > King County Library System | Code today, > PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow > */ > > -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 15:30:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA020807011; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:30:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04778; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:24:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:20:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04054; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:20:07 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04017; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:20:00 -0500 Received: by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA18238; Fri, 21 Feb 97 10:17:52 HST From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <9702212017.AA18238@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: clean screen To: perley@cadence.com (Don Perley) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 97 10:17:52 HST Cc: pantalone@egertp.rtp.ericsson.se, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199702211554.HAA11996@mailhub.Cadence.COM>; from "Don Perley" at Feb 21, 97 7:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > You could just get an eyeglass cleaning kit with spray cleaner and a soft cloth. > If they won't scratch plastic lenses with daily use they should be ok for > the computer screen. The plastic surface of the LCD screen is actually softer than most eyeglass lenses. This doesn't mean that the eyeglass cleaning kit is inappropriate. I use a microfiber cloth w/out any fluid on my screen. Use the kind of cloth good photo stores supply, not the cheaper kind that opticians carry. These cloths can lift oil etc. w/out fluid, and are soft enough not to scratch the delicate coatings on expensive camera lenses. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 16:08:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA056289321; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:08:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16227; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:57:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:53:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15537; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:53:17 -0500 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15524; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:53:12 -0500 Received: from earth (hseaman@earth [169.207.16.1]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id IAA00958; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:53:03 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:53:02 -0600 (CST) From: Harry Seaman X-Sender: hseaman@earth To: Peter Lewis Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: clean screen question In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970220230323.006992e8@popserv.wolfenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Peter Lewis wrote: > What's the best way to clean a dirty TP screen, i.e., what solution applied > with what? > Lemon Pledge....Great on aircraft plexiglass windshields too. Just use it sparingly, a little bit applied to a soft cloth. good luck, harry seaman From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 16:37:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA067201057; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:37:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24421; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:37:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:32:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23489; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:32:17 -0500 Received: from gwa.ericsson.com (gwa.ericsson.com [198.215.127.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23465; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:32:09 -0500 Received: from mr2.exu.ericsson.se (mr2.exu.ericsson.com [138.85.147.12]) by gwa.ericsson.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id JAA04533 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:31:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (screamer.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.133.13]) by mr2.exu.ericsson.se (8.7.1/NAHUB-MR1.1) with SMTP id JAA15614 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:31:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from rpc1331 (pc257.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.136.2]) by screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id KAA22226 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:31:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199702211531.KAA22226@screamer.rtp.ericsson.se> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brett Pantalone" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:33:43 -0005 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: clean screen Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The manual for my 755CE says to use a soft, dry cloth for cleaning the LCD. I have used alcohol wipes in the past, which worked very well, but the manual specifically says not to do this. I'm worried that a dry cloth might scratch the polarized coating on the screen, but that's what the book says to do. -- Brett Pantalone Staff Engineer, Ericsson Inc. pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 16:43:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA067971378; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:42:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25986; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:48:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:44:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25485; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:44:54 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25460; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:44:37 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id HAA26368; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:44:33 -0800 Received: from hi-av1.cadence.com(158.140.128.31) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma856539873.026365; Fri Feb 21 07:44:33 1997 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (sj4a-10.cadence.com [158.140.31.20]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA09101; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:44:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:44:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702211544.HAA09101@mailhub.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Scott McDermott From: Don Perley Subject: Re: Does Solaris support mwave..? Cc: Thinkpad List Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 04:32 PM 2/20/97 -0800, Scott McDermott wrote: >I suspect that Solaris will support MWave before Linux, as IBM won't tell >anyone how to use their chip, and SUN is far more likely to get help from >IBM than J. Random Hacker. I'll actually be surprised (though pleasantly) >if either one ever supports MWave... Don't forget that some of those J. Random Hacker linux users already work at IBM. Not that they could just throw proprietary code out to the public, but if you've got a buddy who's an MWAVE developer you can probably pick up some hints when the publicly available information seems unclear. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 16:44:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA068141480; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:44:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07202; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 11:57:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 11:51:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05993; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 11:51:39 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05965; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 11:51:29 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA55950 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:51:14 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-154.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.154) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaCHkDmb; Fri Feb 21 16:51:03 1997 Message-Id: <330DD25C.79BB@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:50:36 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Email List Subject: 16MB (Parity) IC-DRAM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a used 16MB (Parity) IC-DRAM module that I just took out of my 755CE and would like to sell it for $150 or best offer. -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. 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From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 16:48:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA068931711; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:48:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15310; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:46:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:41:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14748; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:41:44 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14736; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:41:39 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA25763; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:37:28 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199702212137.QAA25763@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: Does Solaris support mwave..? (fwd) In-Reply-To: from Scott McDermott at "Feb 21, 97 10:29:27 am" To: scottm@kcls.org (Scott McDermott) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:37:28 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Don Perley wrote: > > One of the reasons I bought my 755 was because it had the MWave, > specifically for the 28.8 modem. While I would like to run Linux (or > Solaris) on it, I can't justify buying a PCMCIA modem just so I can run my > OS of choice... If I thought I could do it, I'd try to reverse engineer > the driver, but I have found that I can not yet walk on water. Since I do not have a TP with MWave, I've never tried this. However, for experienced Linux users, I would recommend the following "hack" which might have a small (and I stress, _small_) chance of working: 1. Boot DOS and run any MWave modem initialization. 2. Run LoadLin to boot into Linux. 3. Run DOSEmu and open a DOS session, loading the necessary MWave drivers to use the modem. 4. Run a DOS comm package under DOSEmu. (Steps 1-2 may be redundant, in which case booting directly into Linux using a bootdiskor LILO should be fine). I'd appreciate hearing whether this actually works... Also, if the MWave is hardware register compatible with Sound Blaster * cards, the following procedure should get you sound under Linux: 1. Boot DOS and run MWave sound initialization. 2. Run LoadLin to boot into Linux (kernel sound config should match the DOS sound config). Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 16:56:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA071792172; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:56:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16489; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:54:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:51:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15984; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:51:06 -0500 Received: from mhv.net (root@spice.mhv.net [199.0.0.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15965; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:50:57 -0500 Received: from taifun.octintl.com (yce@nb291-15.warwick.net [204.255.29.25]) by mhv.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA31986 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:50:47 -0500 Received: (from yce@localhost) by taifun.octintl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA00415; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:42:22 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:42:22 -0500 From: yves@mhv.net Message-Id: <199702212142.QAA00415@taifun.octintl.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: clean screen In-Reply-To: <9702212017.AA18238@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> References: <199702211554.HAA11996@mailhub.Cadence.COM> <9702212017.AA18238@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu David Ross writes: > > You could just get an eyeglass cleaning kit with spray cleaner and a soft cloth. > > If they won't scratch plastic lenses with daily use they should be ok for > > the computer screen. > > The plastic surface of the LCD screen is actually softer than most > eyeglass lenses. This doesn't mean that the eyeglass cleaning kit is > inappropriate. > > I use a microfiber cloth w/out any fluid on my screen. Use the kind of cloth > good photo stores supply, not the cheaper kind that opticians carry. > These cloths can lift oil etc. w/out fluid, and are soft enough not > to scratch the delicate coatings on expensive camera lenses. When I spoke to IBM (last year) they suggested that I use some Windex and a paper towel... And that's worked fine since then. However, I don't touch the screen and I keep the lid closed when I am not using it, so it dosen't get that dirty. (And that's probably the best way to keep it clean.... KEEP YOUR FINGERS OFF IT! ;-) ) -yce -- Yves-Chandler Eynard yves@mhv.net yves@warwick.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 17:00:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA073322409; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:00:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17056; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:58:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:54:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16537; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:54:14 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16499; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:54:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id NAA28607 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:53:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:53:55 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Does Solaris support mwave..? (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199702212137.QAA25763@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Dave Ahn wrote: > 3. Run DOSEmu and open a DOS session, loading the necessary MWave > drivers to use the modem. > 4. Run a DOS comm package under DOSEmu. Hmm, that may actually work, I may have to try that. However, what good is a modem if you can't use it for PPP? > 1. Boot DOS and run MWave sound initialization. > 2. Run LoadLin to boot into Linux (kernel sound config should match > the DOS sound config). I understand that this is known to work. /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 17:37:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA082994636; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:37:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21705; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:34:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:31:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21417; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:31:43 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21400; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:31:34 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA26486; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:27:45 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199702212227.RAA26486@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: Does Solaris support mwave..? (fwd) In-Reply-To: from Scott McDermott at "Feb 21, 97 01:53:55 pm" To: scottm@kcls.org (Scott McDermott) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:27:45 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Dave Ahn wrote: > > > 3. Run DOSEmu and open a DOS session, loading the necessary MWave > > drivers to use the modem. > > 4. Run a DOS comm package under DOSEmu. > > Hmm, that may actually work, I may have to try that. However, what good > is a modem if you can't use it for PPP? You should be able to use a PPP driver strictly under the DOSEmu session (ugly). However, if your intent is to use PPP under Linux with MWave, it might be possible with some minor changes to DOSEmu and Linux kernel device mapping srcs. After step 3 above, DOSEmu should have a virtual serial port assigned by the MWave drivers. If you can export the device from DOSEmu into Linux (via kernel device mapping), you can load a serial driver module under Linux at that address and access the modem. A few concerns with this procedure might include: 1. unexpected results if the serial device is written to simultaneously from under Linux and DOSEmu. 2. unexpected results if the DOSEmu session is closed. 3. unexpected results if the serial port is re-initialized. 3. is the MWave COM port a completely software driven virtual device, or does MWave actually have serial hardware registers that just get initialized by the MWave drivers? (latter seems to be unlikely). > > 1. Boot DOS and run MWave sound initialization. > > 2. Run LoadLin to boot into Linux (kernel sound config should match > > the DOS sound config). > > I understand that this is known to work. Because MWave sound is hardware register compatible with Sound Blaster * as opposed to being a software emulation. Good luck! Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. 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And that's worked fine since then. Judging from your (warwick.net) address, you're in the UK; when I lived there, paper towels came in two varieties: 'supersoft', which dissolved on contact with anything wet, and 'mustn't grumble', which was nice and stiff and good for patching drywall. I assume you use the former. One advantage of the microfiber cloth is that it can travel easily with the machine. > not using it, so it dosen't get that dirty. (And that's probably the > best way to keep it clean.... KEEP YOUR FINGERS OFF IT! ;-) ) I do; now, if I could only keep my 2-year-old's fingers off it:-) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 19:28:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA110281336; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 19:28:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01341; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 19:21:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 19:18:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01021; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 19:18:48 -0500 Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01010; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 19:18:44 -0500 Received: from sfupc.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:16:30 PST Received: by sfupc.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC2013.2FD83FE0@sfupc.Triumf.CA>; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:20:43 -0800 Message-Id: <01BC2013.2FD83FE0@sfupc.Triumf.CA> From: tisol To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Dock 1 docking stations available from ONSALE.COM Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:20:42 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu http://www.onsale.com is having their bi-weekly sale of the DOCK1. The bids usually go for $70 plus $10 for transpo. If you buy multiple units 2x etc they can probably be bought for $55. If you decide to buy you, might want to discuss this so that people on this list don't bid against each other....too much.{grin} ...peter.. BTW the Dock 1 has been discontinued but it works with a Lot of thinkpads....visit IBM's web page From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 21 20:02:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA117263342; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 20:02:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01782; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 19:26:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 19:23:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01453; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 19:23:22 -0500 Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01439; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 19:23:14 -0500 Received: from sfupc.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:21:04 PST Received: by sfupc.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC2013.D313F820@sfupc.Triumf.CA>; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:25:17 -0800 Message-Id: <01BC2013.D313F820@sfupc.Triumf.CA> From: tisol To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Cheap PCMCIA CD-ROM $120 4x Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:25:16 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ---------- From: tisol[SMTP:machule@triumf.ca] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 1997 2:38 PM To: 'comp.sys.laptops' Subject: Cheap PCMCIA CD-ROM $120 4x $120 for the Sony 4X CD-ROM refurb. http://www.insight.com/ 1-800-467-4448 patrick at ext 5126 isn't too bad. This is the PRD-250 Diskman PCMCIA Given that the Adaptec SCSI 2 card will cost you the ~same it seems like a very good deal. It comes with an OEM Adaptec. (or should........) peter.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 22 05:05:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA208185944; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 05:05:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08922; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 04:11:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Feb 1997 04:08:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08485; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 04:08:36 -0500 Received: from pepvax.pepperdine.edu (pepvax.pepperdine.edu [137.159.8.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08474; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 04:08:31 -0500 Received: by pepvax.pepperdine.edu (Pep-5.3) id AA24353 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 01:07:38 -0800 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 01:07:38 -0800 From: Charles Dvorak Message-Id: <199702220907.AA24353@pepvax.pepperdine.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Port cases Cc: cdvorak@pepperdine.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Steve Hultquist wrote: > >Well, leather is all fine and good (hey, I like a dead cow in my hand as >much as the next guy) but I'll go for a case that resembles anything but a >laptop bag, as often as I can. Not to the point that if I run around town, >I won't just use the small bag, but if I can, I'd rather go covert with the >darn thing. > >Now, if someone can make a really nice laptop case, that doesn't look like >it's got a PC, that would be great! The best solution I've heard is to use a leather Bible case. Get one with a big crucifix on the front (the doves don't quite cut it). There's a St. Pauls shop in most cities - they usually have a selection. If a thief comes along, he's not likely to be interested in stealing a Bible. The TP701 should fit in there just fine - add your own padding. Charlie Dvorak City of Angels CA 90272 PS Anyone heard of a NextStep driver for the 701? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 22 08:46:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA238339187; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 08:46:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01618; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 07:56:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Feb 1997 07:52:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01354; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 07:52:38 -0500 Received: from fire.ebc.net (fire.ebc.net [194.133.24.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01343; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 07:52:30 -0500 Received: from gateway.ebc.net (ppp1-17.ebc.net [194.133.24.22]) by fire.ebc.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03421 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 13:56:36 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970222135010.00749750@pop.ebc.net> X-Sender: graham@pop.ebc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 13:51:04 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Graham Subject: Thinkpad 701 problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've got a 701CS/530 disk/24Mb memory and an external "EXP" brand cdrom. I cannot rid of Win95 Registry errors. I reformated the hard disk, reinstalled DOS 6.3 and W95 several times. It seems like my programs are reinstalling ok then inevitably I get "a fatal exception" OC, OD or OE at different locations. I've done the Troubleshooter wizard to ferret out conflicts. I've talked to IBM tech support. After every installation sequence the blockages start again, often leading to a power down to get the cursor back. I'm tearing my hair out. Anybody out there have an idea? Is there another list or newsgroup where I can get help. Much appreciate it. Bill From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 22 10:28:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA253815286; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 10:28:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13540; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 10:24:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Feb 1997 10:21:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13199; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 10:21:44 -0500 Received: from mailsrv.cdf.toronto.edu (root@marvin.cdf.toronto.edu [128.100.31.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13182; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 10:21:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by marvin.cdf.toronto.edu with SMTP id <4148>; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 10:21:31 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 10:21:25 -0500 From: "Richard L.F. Yuen" Sender: "Richard L.F. Yuen" Fake-Sender: g4yuen@eddie To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad won't shut down In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970222135010.00749750@pop.ebc.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone experenced any problems with the upgrading of the new system bios for the 365XD? (P100,810HD,24RAM,DS) Now whenever I shutdown the notebook down I get the usual windows screen "Please wait while your computer shuts down" and then nothing. The notebook should power down and shut off by itself but it doesn't. Any ideas? Richard #include #include /*****************************************************************************\ *Beware the pale horse and Richard Yuen * *on it was a rider and he was University of Toronto 9TX X->7 * *called Death.And Hell followed Faculty of Arts&Science(SW ENG) * *behind him. g4yuen@cdf.toronto.edu * \*****************http://cdf.toronto.edu/~g4yuen/personal.html****************/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 22 12:48:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA276313692; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 12:48:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25478; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 12:44:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Feb 1997 12:41:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25282; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 12:41:54 -0500 Received: from mail1-gui.server.virgin.net (mail1-gui.server.virgin.net [194.168.54.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25218; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 12:41:12 -0500 Received: from default ([194.168.56.86]) by mail1-gui.server.virgin.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-28692) with ESMTP id AAA1561 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:39:15 +0000 From: philip.c@virgin.net (philip.c@virgin.net) To: "Thinkpad mailing list" Subject: IBM Software upgrades Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:52:55 -0000 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970222173853.AAA1561@default> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am using a Thinkpad 760LD with Windows95 and have recently come across the upgrades page on the IBM software web site. Which, if any, of the upgrades should I be looking at downloading and installing? I intend to purchase a PCMCIA fax/modem for use with the 760LD. Thanks for any help Philip. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 22 15:17:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA299602652; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 15:17:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06671; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 15:13:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Feb 1997 15:07:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06043; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 15:07:30 -0500 Received: from m6.boston.juno.com (m6.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.197]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06024; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 15:07:23 -0500 From: Received: (from computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com) by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id PnX21701; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 15:06:28 EST To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701CS Message-Id: <19970222.120319.10302.2.computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5-6,9-13 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 15:06:28 EST Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anybody have or know of a web site or software set that has the original preload for the ThinkPad 701CS (486DX4-75 version)? My hard drive accidently got erased last Sunday, and I only backed up about 30% of the data to a server. I mainly need the online user's guide, readme file, Diskette Factory Program (not the images), and another small app who's name I don't remember. Any help is greatly appreciated. Also, has anybody had any problems with the 701 DX4 version not going into suspend mode when on of the preset Power Management modes is set? I am using BIOS Level 3O. Thanks. Paul Khoury computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com paulkhoury@aol.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 22 17:15:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA019099725; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:15:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16624; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:09:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:03:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16038; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:03:39 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (root@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16011; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:03:33 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id RAA20901; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:02:38 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:02:37 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701CS In-Reply-To: <19970222.120319.10302.2.computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Saturday, 22nd February 1997, computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com wrote: > Does anybody have or know of a web site or software set that has the > original preload for the ThinkPad 701CS (486DX4-75 version)? In the States, IBM sells a preload CD for the 701C/701CS. With the least expensive shipping method, I believe that it's US$46. Apparently IBM Canada doesn't sell the Canadian version to Canadian end-users, if another ThinkPad-mail recipient's experience is the rule there. I haven't heard about attempts from other countries. > Also, has anybody had any problems with the 701 DX4 version not going > into suspend mode when on of the preset Power Management modes is set? > I am using BIOS Level 3O. What are your current settings? I'm using Auto Suspend Timeout: Disabled; Suspend on Lid Close: Yes; and Safe Suspend: Manual and Auto, and that combination works fine for me (I also have 3O). Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 22 22:03:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA078397033; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 22:03:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09628; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 22:00:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Feb 1997 21:54:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09027; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 21:54:37 -0500 Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09016; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 21:54:32 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA24999 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 20:53:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from als-il5-60.ix.netcom.com(206.217.104.188) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma024908; Sat Feb 22 20:53:54 1997 From: mocek@ix.netcom.com (Stan Mocek) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701CS Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 02:55:27 GMT Reply-To: mocek@ix.netcom.com Message-Id: <3310b10f.11765557@smtp.best.ix.netcom.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:02:37 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >On Saturday, 22nd February 1997, computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com = wrote: > >> Does anybody have or know of a web site or software set that has the >> original preload for the ThinkPad 701CS (486DX4-75 version)? > >In the States, IBM sells a preload CD for the 701C/701CS. With the least= =20 >expensive shipping method, I believe that it's US$46. Apparently IBM=20 >Canada doesn't sell the Canadian version to Canadian end-users, if=20 >another ThinkPad-mail recipient's experience is the rule there. I = haven't=20 >heard about attempts from other countries. Unfortunately, I attempted to order that preload CD last week here in the states and was told by the rep that they are no longer selling it for the 701.=20 --=20 Stan Mocek mocek@ix.netcom.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 22 22:27:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA082258420; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 22:27:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11684; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 22:22:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Feb 1997 22:18:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11187; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 22:18:23 -0500 Received: from netcom23.netcom.com (root@netcom23.netcom.com [192.100.81.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11177; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 22:18:18 -0500 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom23.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id TAA02088; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 19:15:17 -0800 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 19:15:17 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199702230315.TAA02088@netcom23.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 8 meg IBM ram card for 755cx for sale Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm not sure if it has parity (anyone know how to tell)? Is $60 reasonable? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 22 22:43:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA085189424; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 22:43:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13245; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 22:40:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Feb 1997 22:36:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12758; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 22:36:10 -0500 Received: from ra.isisnet.com (root@ra.isisnet.com [199.45.83.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12744; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 22:36:05 -0500 Received: from ra.isisnet.com by ra.isisnet.com (8.8.3/SMI-SVR4) id XAA14766; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:32:12 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970222233323.006efd84@isisnet.com> X-Sender: robsteve@isisnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:33:27 -0400 To: "Richard L.F. Yuen" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Robert G. Stevens" Subject: Re: Thinkpad won't shut down Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:21 AM 22/02/97 -0500, Richard L.F. Yuen wrote: > >Has anyone experenced any problems with the upgrading of the new system >bios for the 365XD? (P100,810HD,24RAM,DS) > >Now whenever I shutdown the notebook down I get the usual windows screen >"Please wait while your computer shuts down" and then nothing. The >notebook should power down and shut off by itself but it doesn't. > >Any ideas? > >Richard > >#include >#include >/************************************************************************** ***\ >*Beware the pale horse and Richard Yuen * >*on it was a rider and he was University of Toronto 9TX X->7 * >*called Death.And Hell followed Faculty of Arts&Science(SW ENG) * >*behind him. g4yuen@cdf.toronto.edu * >\*****************http://cdf.toronto.edu/~g4yuen/personal.html************* ***/ > > > Richard: I had similiar problems on a 755 and a 701 and seemed to be related to network cards. If you have a network card these thinkpads shut down more reliably in Win 95 if I stopped the card first. This can be done through clicking on the PC Card icon in the task bar tray and the selecting the network card. My problems seem to have went away when I got a newer driver for the megahertz card. I have also found that if you get the "Please wait while your computer shuts down" message and it does not shut down, you can press CTRL-ALT-DEL and when the close program window comes up select shut down. With all its improvements Win 95 is not perfect yet. At our office our main application runs on a IBM Clone using SCO UNIX and it can go for months without needing to be shutdown because software problems. Eventually Windows should get this reliable. Regards Robert Stevens From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 22 23:23:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA091501817; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:23:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16726; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:20:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:15:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16099; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:15:02 -0500 Received: from mailmule0.mindspring.com (mailmule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.191]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16071; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:14:55 -0500 Received: from user-37kb97d.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb97d.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.237]) by mailmule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA14657; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:14:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199702230414.XAA14657@mailmule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "philip.c@virgin.net" , "Thinkpad mailing list" Date: Sat, 22 Feb 97 23:14:50 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IBM Software upgrades Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If you are not having any troubles, just upgrade the BIOS. On Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:52:55 -0000, philip.c@virgin.net wrote: >I am using a Thinkpad 760LD with Windows95 and have recently come across >the upgrades page on the IBM software web site. > >Which, if any, of the upgrades should I be looking at downloading and >installing? >I intend to purchase a PCMCIA fax/modem for use with the 760LD. > >Thanks for any help > >Philip. jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Feb 22 23:50:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA095943432; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:50:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19025; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:46:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:41:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18430; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:41:04 -0500 Received: from mailsrv.cdf.toronto.edu (root@marvin.cdf.toronto.edu [128.100.31.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18413; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:40:59 -0500 Received: from localhost by marvin.cdf.toronto.edu with SMTP id <4154>; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:40:52 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:40:37 -0500 From: "Richard L.F. Yuen" Sender: "Richard L.F. Yuen" Fake-Sender: g4yuen@eddie To: "Robert G. Stevens" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad won't shut down In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970222233323.006efd84@isisnet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, Robert G. Stevens wrote: > At 10:21 AM 22/02/97 -0500, Richard L.F. Yuen wrote: > > > >Has anyone experenced any problems with the upgrading of the new system > >bios for the 365XD? (P100,810HD,24RAM,DS) > > > >Now whenever I shutdown the notebook down I get the usual windows screen > >"Please wait while your computer shuts down" and then nothing. The > >notebook should power down and shut off by itself but it doesn't. > > > >Any ideas? > > > >Richard > > > Richard: > > I had similiar problems on a 755 and a 701 and seemed to be related to > network cards. If you have a network card these thinkpads shut down more > reliably in Win 95 if I stopped the card first. This can be done through > clicking on the PC Card icon in the task bar tray and the selecting the > network card. My problems seem to have went away when I got a newer driver > for the megahertz card. I have also found that if you get the "Please wait I've tried it and it still doesn't work. The machine still doesn't shut down after displaying the "please wait while your computer shuts down" message. trying the ctrl-alt-del also fails to power down the machine. My network card is the Megahertz XJEM3336 model which I purchased a month ago so I believe I have the lastest drivers. I seem to have another problem-the welcome screen message should cover the whole screen but now I get a 5"x4" welcome message with a black border instead of the usual large 9x6 one. I've done the video updates last year so I believe this isn't the problem. > while your computer shuts down" message and it does not shut down, you can > press CTRL-ALT-DEL and when the close program window comes up select shut > down. With all its improvements Win 95 is not perfect yet. At our office > our main application runs on a IBM Clone using SCO UNIX and it can go for > months without needing to be shutdown because software problems. > Eventually Windows should get this reliable. > > Regards > > Robert Stevens > > > #include #include /*****************************************************************************\ *Beware the pale horse and Richard Yuen * *on it was a rider and he was University of Toronto 9TX X->7 * *called Death.And Hell followed Faculty of Arts&Science(SW ENG) * *behind him. g4yuen@cdf.toronto.edu * \*****************http://cdf.toronto.edu/~g4yuen/personal.html****************/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 23 00:37:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA103406230; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 00:37:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24299; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 00:29:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Feb 1997 00:25:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23750; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 00:25:00 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23738; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 00:24:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA23083 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 21:24:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 21:24:48 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: FS: 16MB card for 755/360 $125 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, Scott McDermott wrote: > 16MB no parity card. Currently in a 755cx, will work in the 360 as well. > Probably works in more, but I don't know which. Asking $125, whipping > included. Whipping only included if you are in the Seattle area. Otherwise I'll cover *shipping*. :-] /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 23 02:11:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA123571910; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 02:11:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00435; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 02:06:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Feb 1997 02:00:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29841; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 02:00:52 -0500 Received: from hauki.clinet.fi (root@hauki.clinet.fi [194.100.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29824; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 02:00:45 -0500 Received: from CHIPIE (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.8.5/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA28599 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 09:00:39 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199702230700.JAA28599@hauki.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sun, 23 Feb 97 09:02:44 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: info about TP 560 video system X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.24 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I'm contemplating the purchase of a ThinkPad 560 and I need some information about its video system, which I couldn't find at http://www.pc.ibm.com/thinkpad/tp560.html (is there a more complete URL?) What is the video chip used on the TP560? How much memory has it got? What is the maximum resolution available with the internal display and with an external CRT? What is the maximum color depth available? If anyone is running OS/2 on a TP560, I'd be glad to hear comments (it's the OS I plan to run on it). Thanks, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 23 02:55:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA130854502; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 02:55:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23571; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 00:23:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Feb 1997 00:18:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22875; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 00:18:01 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22863; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 00:17:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA22982 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 21:17:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 21:17:48 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain Reply-To: Scott McDermott To: Thinkpad List Subject: FS: 16MB card for 755/360 $125 Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu 16MB no parity card. Currently in a 755cx, will work in the 360 as well. Probably works in more, but I don't know which. Asking $125, whipping included. /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 23 13:25:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA253982308; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:25:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27403; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:21:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:18:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26997; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:18:21 -0500 Received: from m6.boston.juno.com (m6.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.197]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26987; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:18:16 -0500 Received: (from computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com) by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id NfU18656; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:17:25 EST To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp Server 4.0 on ThinkPad Message-Id: <19970223.101421.3398.2.computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com> References: <3.0.1.32.19970222130452.00a53d00@pdss.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-5 From: computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com (Paul A Khoury) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:17:25 EST Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone been able to successfully run Warp Server 4.0 on an IBM ThinkPad (any model)? Thanks. Paul Khoury computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com paulkhoury@aol.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 23 14:01:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA259904517; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:01:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25751; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:56:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:51:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25348; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:51:14 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25338; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:51:08 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IFR2FO19J499DWDO@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 10:51:04 MST Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 10:43:42 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: clean screen In-Reply-To: "Message dated Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:42:22 -0500" <199702212142.QAA00415@taifun.octintl.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IFR3YEFEM499DWDO@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII References: <199702211554.HAA11996@mailhub.Cadence.COM> <9702212017.AA18238@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> <9702212017.AA18238@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > When I spoke to IBM (last year) they suggested that I use some Windex > and a paper towel... And that's worked fine since then. I usually use just a big camel's hair brush (dry) but I do like Windex for the two video terminals on my desk and once in a while I'll lightly go over the Thinkpad screen with the same towel after first getting the two regular terminals. I don't think I'd want to spray Windex directly on the Thinkpad though with just a little on the towel it works fine - no risk of any getting into the key- board or whatever... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 23 14:06:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA260984817; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:06:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00967; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:02:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:58:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00587; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:58:53 -0500 Received: from pop.leopard.com ([206.83.112.124]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00570; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:58:48 -0500 Received: from will ([206.83.112.67]) by pop.leopard.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA19168; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:58:38 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970223115318.009c45c8@pop.leopard.com> X-Sender: wdunn@pop.leopard.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 11:53:19 -0700 To: computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com (Paul A Khoury) From: Will Dunn Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp Server 4.0 on ThinkPad Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:17 PM 2/23/97 EST, you wrote: >Has anyone been able to successfully run Warp Server 4.0 on an IBM >ThinkPad (any model)? Thanks. > >Paul Khoury >computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com >paulkhoury@aol.com I have run Warp Server Beta on a 701c with a microsolutions Backpack external CDROM, and I have run Warp Server 4.0 on 755CX and 755CD using either a Dock I or Backpack for CDROM support. Runs great on 24 MB RAM. Contact me directly if you have any specific quesitons. --wwd Will Dunn Leopard Communications Boulder, CO http://www.leopard.com Always remember: Pillage BEFORE you burn. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 23 14:44:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA266727056; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:44:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04371; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:41:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:37:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03798; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:37:22 -0500 Received: from helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk (root@helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.8.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03787; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:37:17 -0500 Received: from echidna (remote391.dialup.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.77.237]) by helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA21952; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 19:36:40 GMT Message-Id: <199702231936.TAA21952@helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Costas S. Iliopoulos" Organization: King's College London To: "Richard L.F. Yuen" Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 19:36:23 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Thinkpad won't shut down Reply-To: csi@dcs.kcl.ac.uk Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal References: <3.0.32.19970222233323.006efd84@isisnet.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:40:37 -0500 > From: "Richard L.F. Yuen" > To: "Robert G. Stevens" > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Thinkpad won't shut down > On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, Robert G. Stevens wrote: > > > At 10:21 AM 22/02/97 -0500, Richard L.F. Yuen wrote: > > > > > >Has anyone experenced any problems with the upgrading of the new system > > >bios for the 365XD? (P100,810HD,24RAM,DS) > > > > > >Now whenever I shutdown the notebook down I get the usual windows screen > > >"Please wait while your computer shuts down" and then nothing. The > > >notebook should power down and shut off by itself but it doesn't. > > > > > >Any ideas? > > > > > >Richard > Dear Richard, I had the exact same problem (I had no network card). If I removed the extra 16 MB of memory, then the thinkpad would shut down with no problem. Did you try this? I sent it back to the IBM Service, they initially said that it was a software problem (my software of course), but while they attempted to wipe my hard disk and re-install win95, they discovered that the parallel port(!) was faulty, so they replaced the motherboard and the hard drive (!) After this, the problem evaporated (The thinkpad was running on Bios 1.01) You will definitely need to upgrade to 1.05 Bios as a first step... it irons out a very long list of problems. Cheers Costas > > > > > Richard: > > > > I had similiar problems on a 755 and a 701 and seemed to be related to > > network cards. If you have a network card these thinkpads shut down more > > reliably in Win 95 if I stopped the card first. This can be done through > > clicking on the PC Card icon in the task bar tray and the selecting the > > network card. My problems seem to have went away when I got a newer driver > > for the megahertz card. I have also found that if you get the "Please wait > > I've tried it and it still doesn't work. The machine still doesn't shut > down after displaying the "please wait while your computer shuts down" > message. trying the ctrl-alt-del also fails to power down the machine. My > network card is the Megahertz XJEM3336 model which I purchased a month ago > so I believe I have the lastest drivers. > > I seem to have another problem-the welcome screen message should cover the > whole screen but now I get a 5"x4" welcome message with a black border > instead of the usual large 9x6 one. > > I've done the video updates last year so I believe this isn't the problem. > > > while your computer shuts down" message and it does not shut down, you can > > press CTRL-ALT-DEL and when the close program window comes up select shut > > down. With all its improvements Win 95 is not perfect yet. At our office > > our main application runs on a IBM Clone using SCO UNIX and it can go for > > months without needing to be shutdown because software problems. > > Eventually Windows should get this reliable. > > > > Regards > > > > Robert Stevens > > > > > > > > #include > #include > /*****************************************************************************\ > *Beware the pale horse and Richard Yuen * > *on it was a rider and he was University of Toronto 9TX X->7 * > *called Death.And Hell followed Faculty of Arts&Science(SW ENG) * > *behind him. g4yuen@cdf.toronto.edu * > \*****************http://cdf.toronto.edu/~g4yuen/personal.html****************/ > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Costas S. Iliopoulos Algorithm Design Group Tel: 44 (171) 873 2809 Dept of Computer Science Fax: 44 (171) 873 2851 King's College London Sec: 44 (171) 873 2588 Strand England http://www.dcs.kcl.ac.uk/staff/csi ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 23 15:37:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA276340273; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:37:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09433; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:31:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:25:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08732; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:25:29 -0500 Received: from mailsrv.cdf.toronto.edu (root@marvin.cdf.toronto.edu [128.100.31.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08629; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:25:14 -0500 Received: from localhost by marvin.cdf.toronto.edu with SMTP id <4154>; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:24:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:24:57 -0500 From: "Richard L.F. Yuen" Sender: "Richard L.F. Yuen" Fake-Sender: g4yuen@eddie To: "Costas S. Iliopoulos" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad won't shut down In-Reply-To: <199702231936.TAA21952@helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Costas S. Iliopoulos wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, Robert G. Stevens wrote: > > > > > At 10:21 AM 22/02/97 -0500, Richard L.F. Yuen wrote: > > > > > > > >Has anyone experenced any problems with the upgrading of the new system > > > >bios for the 365XD? (P100,810HD,24RAM,DS) > > > > > > > >Now whenever I shutdown the notebook down I get the usual windows screen > > > >"Please wait while your computer shuts down" and then nothing. The > > > >notebook should power down and shut off by itself but it doesn't. > > > > > > > >Any ideas? > > > > > > > >Richard > > > > Dear Richard, > > I had the exact same problem (I had no network card). > > If I removed the extra 16 MB of memory, then the thinkpad would shut > down with no problem. Did you try this? no. I don;t think my RAM is the problem, the test runs I ran said that my RAM was fine. > I sent it back to the IBM Service, they initially said that it > was a software problem (my software of course), but while they > attempted to wipe my hard disk and re-install win95, they discovered > that the parallel port(!) was faulty, so they replaced the > motherboard and the hard drive (!) After this, the problem evaporated > (The thinkpad was running on Bios 1.01) My parallel ports fine...that is I can print with no problems. > You will definitely need to upgrade to 1.05 Bios as a first step... > it irons out a very long list of problems. > THe problems came when I upgraded the BIOS to 1.24. I also upgraded to IE3.0 at about the same time. Would that have been a problem? On the same note the welcome screen is still faulty(blessing in disguise!) See below. > > > > > > I had similiar problems on a 755 and a 701 and seemed to be related to > > > network cards. If you have a network card these thinkpads shut down more > > > reliably in Win 95 if I stopped the card first. This can be done through > > > clicking on the PC Card icon in the task bar tray and the selecting the > > > network card. My problems seem to have went away when I got a newer driver > > > for the megahertz card. I have also found that if you get the "Please wait > > > > I've tried it and it still doesn't work. The machine still doesn't shut > > down after displaying the "please wait while your computer shuts down" > > message. trying the ctrl-alt-del also fails to power down the machine. My > > network card is the Megahertz XJEM3336 model which I purchased a month ago > > so I believe I have the lastest drivers. > > > > I seem to have another problem-the welcome screen message should cover the > > whole screen but now I get a 5"x4" welcome message with a black border > > instead of the usual large 9x6 one. > > > > I've done the video updates last year so I believe this isn't the problem. > > > > > while your computer shuts down" message and it does not shut down, you can > > > press CTRL-ALT-DEL and when the close program window comes up select shut > > > down. With all its improvements Win 95 is not perfect yet. At our office > > > our main application runs on a IBM Clone using SCO UNIX and it can go for > > > months without needing to be shutdown because software problems. > > > Eventually Windows should get this reliable. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Robert Stevens regards Richard #include #include /*****************************************************************************\ *Beware the pale horse and Richard Yuen * *on it was a rider and he was University of Toronto 9TX X->7 * *called Death.And Hell followed Faculty of Arts&Science(SW ENG) * *behind him. g4yuen@cdf.toronto.edu * \*****************http://cdf.toronto.edu/~g4yuen/personal.html****************/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 23 16:56:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA288234962; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 16:56:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16632; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 16:51:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Feb 1997 16:47:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16317; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 16:47:16 -0500 Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca [206.75.222.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16292; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 16:47:09 -0500 Received: from dec.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA12644; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:35:32 -0700 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by dec; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/05Apr96-0129PM) id AA06026; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:48:03 -0700 Message-Id: <9702232148.AA06026@dec> Subject: Re: Does Solaris support mwave..? (fwd) To: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:48:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: scottm@kcls.org, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199702212137.QAA25763@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> from "Dave Ahn" at Feb 21, 97 04:37:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Don Perley wrote: > > > > One of the reasons I bought my 755 was because it had the MWave, > > specifically for the 28.8 modem. While I would like to run Linux (or > > Solaris) on it, I can't justify buying a PCMCIA modem just so I can run my > > OS of choice... If I thought I could do it, I'd try to reverse engineer > > the driver, but I have found that I can not yet walk on water. > > Since I do not have a TP with MWave, I've never tried this. However, > for experienced Linux users, I would recommend the following "hack" > which might have a small (and I stress, _small_) chance of working: > > 1. Boot DOS and run any MWave modem initialization. > 2. Run LoadLin to boot into Linux. > 3. Run DOSEmu and open a DOS session, loading the necessary MWave > drivers to use the modem. > 4. Run a DOS comm package under DOSEmu. Tried it over a year ago. Didn't work. Traced it down to the MWave stuff wanting to use the DMA controller which dosemu can't and won't let it do. I think the MWave drivers use DMA to download the programs to the MWave processor. > (Steps 1-2 may be redundant, in which case booting directly into Linux > using a bootdiskor LILO should be fine). > > I'd appreciate hearing whether this actually works... > > Also, if the MWave is hardware register compatible with Sound Blaster * > cards, the following procedure should get you sound under Linux: > > 1. Boot DOS and run MWave sound initialization. > 2. Run LoadLin to boot into Linux (kernel sound config should match > the DOS sound config). This does work fine! > Regards, > Dave. -- Brad Pepers Proud supporter of Linux and Ramparts Management Group Ltd. Caldera in Canada! ramparts@agt.net http://www.agt.net/public/ramparts Linux rules! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 23 19:03:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA010532607; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 19:03:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28072; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:59:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:54:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27648; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:54:01 -0500 Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27624; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:53:55 -0500 Received: from dach.demon.co.uk ([194.222.61.229]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa505934; 23 Feb 97 22:58 GMT Received: by dach.demon.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BC21DD.2805F7A0@dach.demon.co.uk>; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:59:00 -0000 Message-Id: <01BC21DD.2805F7A0@dach.demon.co.uk> From: Chris Alba To: "'ThinkPad E-mail Group'" Subject: ThinkPad Accessories Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:41:48 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know if it is possible to get alternative or OEM (cheaper) = versions of the ThinkPad DAA Telephony kit and telephone headset? In the UK I have been given silly prices; I am told the Telephony Kit = (TO_DAAUK) is more or less just a cable/isolator as the modem is = pre-installed and the IBM price is GBP 155.00. I have tried about 6 other manufacturers telephone headsets to no avail. = I'm told this needs to have an active self-powered mic and the IBM = offering (TO_HDSET) is GBP 116.00 Any suggestions/views would be appreciated. Many thanks, Chris Alba. cja@usa.net =00 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 23 19:35:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA015704519; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 19:35:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01198; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 19:32:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Feb 1997 19:28:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00828; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 19:28:13 -0500 Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk (mercury.ukc.ac.uk [129.12.21.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00813; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 19:28:08 -0500 Received: from stork.ukc.ac.uk by mercury.ukc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:23:50 +0000 Received: from slip1d81.ukc.ac.uk by stork.ukc.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/UKC-2.14) id AAA04206; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:23:48 GMT Message-Id: <330FE363.40DD@ukc.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 06:27:47 +0000 From: Angus Reply-To: afh1@ukc.ac.uk Organization: Wheres? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Unidentified Docking Station Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, Can anyone identify this docking station, and give me the low-down on it's features and compatibility? IBM DOCKING STATION PN53G9712 Thanks, Angus Hewlett From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Feb 23 20:15:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA021626906; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 20:15:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04352; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 20:10:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 23 Feb 1997 20:06:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03884; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 20:06:36 -0500 Received: from m6.boston.juno.com (m6.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.197]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03862; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 20:06:31 -0500 Received: (from computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com) by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id UoK18656; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 20:04:32 EST To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701cs (DX4 version) preloaded software Message-Id: <19970223.170117.6982.2.computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-7 From: computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com (Paul A Khoury) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 20:04:32 EST Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anybody know of a web site, ftp site, source, or disks of the original preloads (excluding disk images, and OSes)? My hard drive got erased 2 weeks ago, and IBM tech support told me that the preload CD has been discontinued. Any information is greatly appreciated. Paul Khoury computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com paulkhoury@aol.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 01:01:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA072214089; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:01:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03578; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:56:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:51:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03182; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:51:56 -0500 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03172; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:51:46 -0500 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA07450; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 21:54:02 -0800 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 21:54:00 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Parker To: Dominique Pivard Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: info about TP 560 video system In-Reply-To: <199702230700.JAA28599@hauki.clinet.fi> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Dominique Pivard wrote: > I'm contemplating the purchase of a ThinkPad 560 and I need some > information about its video system, which I couldn't find at > http://www.pc.ibm.com/thinkpad/tp560.html (is there a more complete URL?) > > What is the video chip used on the TP560? How much memory has it got? Trident Cyber 9382. 1MB. > What is the maximum resolution available with the internal display and > with an external CRT? What is the maximum color depth available? Other than the built in LCD panel being limited to 800x600 you can run all the modes common with 1MB video cards. 640x480,24-bit, 800x600, 16-bit, 1024x768,8-bit. I've got a TP560-120 and think it is a really nice unit. I run my LCD at 800x600,16-bit and run my external monitor at the same res. It keeps everything looking the same and I need the color depth more than I need the extra screen area. > If anyone is running OS/2 on a TP560, I'd be glad to hear comments (it's > the OS I plan to run on it). I run OS/2 Warp Connect on my P100/64MB desktop, but use Win95 on the TP560/24MB since it seems to be the best OS for what I am doing on it. If I had the free cash I'd definitely take this TP560 to 40MB. Oh well, maybe in a few months. I just got the thing a month ago.. =) Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 02:15:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA086178555; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 02:15:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08635; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 02:12:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 02:09:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08191; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 02:09:10 -0500 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [198.7.0.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08137; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 02:08:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (macd@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.8.5/8.7/PanixU1.3) with SMTP id BAA26468 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:06:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:06:20 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: 32 MB Kingston memory for 760CD Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Where would you recommend that I purchase this from? What retailers usually have such memory in stock? Any suggestions appreciated. Regards, Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 03:03:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA092691422; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 03:03:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12598; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 02:59:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 02:58:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12327; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 02:58:08 -0500 Received: from www.run.co.il (www.run.co.il [192.116.72.61]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12308; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 02:57:58 -0500 Received: from [192.116.72.35] by www.run.co.il with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:58:06 +0200 X-Sender: izhar@www.run.co.il Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Izhar Sharon Subject: micosoft Direct X Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:58:06 +0200 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi there, I've tried running Microsoft DirectX 3 (for games) on my TP 760ED and got a blank screen. Any Suggestions? Izhar Sharon izhar@run.co.il Izhar Sharon Project Leader. R.U.N Ltd. Tel: +972-3-645-5010 izhar@run.co.il From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 03:54:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA099764466; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 03:54:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17912; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 03:51:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 03:49:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17609; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 03:49:18 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17571; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 03:49:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id AAA16029 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:49:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:49:04 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain To: Thinkpad List Subject: OK to leave plugged in? Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was wondering, is it going to hurt anything if I leave my TP plugged in all the time? Or is it better just to unplug it? Thanks for any insight... /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 04:37:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA106087026; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 04:37:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22825; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 04:33:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 04:31:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22502; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 04:31:29 -0500 Received: from AST01.ligsystems.com (slip166-72-214-66.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.214.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22469; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 04:31:21 -0500 Received: by AST01.ligsystems.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id BAA001.40; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:31:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199702240631.BAA001.40@AST01.ligsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 01:30:17 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: OK to leave plugged in? X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <138_108_4_856765817> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Scott, My TP701C has been plugged in for as long a sixty days and it doesn't seem to have affected it in anyway. When I unplug it and use it on the battery, it works for as long as it did when it was new. Lee > > I was wondering, is it going to hurt anything if I leave my TP plugged in > all the time? Or is it better just to unplug it? Thanks for any > insight... > > /* > Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, > King County Library System | Code today, > PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow > */ > > ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 07:07:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA125956023; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:07:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10901; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:03:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 06:59:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10529; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 06:59:57 -0500 Received: from lotus.lotus.com (lotus.com [192.233.136.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10519; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 06:59:52 -0500 From: Received: from internet2.lotus.com by lotus.lotus.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA20323; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 06:54:57 -0500 Received: from MTA2.lotus.com by internet2.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AB02808; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 06:51:28 -0500 Received: by mta2.lotus.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (305.4 1-15-1997)) id 85256448.0041DBAB ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 06:59:20 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LOTUS@MTA To: computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <85256448.00419E45.00@mta2.lotus.com> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 06:58:00 -0400 Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp Server 4.0 on ThinkPad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yes, on a 755cx. It basically installed without a hitch. Go for it... -Bill computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com on 02/23/97 01:17:25 PM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu cc: (bcc: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp Server 4.0 on ThinkPad Has anyone been able to successfully run Warp Server 4.0 on an IBM ThinkPad (any model)? Thanks. Paul Khoury computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com paulkhoury@aol.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 07:25:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA128447107; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:25:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12350; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:21:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:19:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12059; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:19:00 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12039; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:18:55 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA11136; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:15:02 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199702241215.HAA11136@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: OK to leave plugged in? In-Reply-To: <199702240631.BAA001.40@AST01.ligsystems.com> from "laniear@ibm.net" at "Feb 24, 97 01:30:17 am" To: laniear@ibm.net Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:15:01 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > I was wondering, is it going to hurt anything if I leave my TP plugged in > > all the time? Or is it better just to unplug it? Thanks for any > > insight... If you plan on using the AC all the time, I would suggest removing and turning off the battery. Otherwise the natural drain on the battery will cause it to be cycled by the AC charger. My battery-removed TP has been on AC for months without problems. Be sure to get a good surge suppressor, by the way. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 07:35:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA129237574; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:32:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12901; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:27:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:25:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12662; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:25:20 -0500 Received: from hkigw1.fin.kemira.com (kemira.com [137.33.1.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12644; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:25:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199702241225.HAA12644@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from hkipivdo.fin.kemira.com by hkigw1.fin.kemira.com with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA06877; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:21:30 +0200 From: Dominique Pivard Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 14:23:07 +0200 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: OK to leave plugged in? Cc: scottm@kcls.org X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.22 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >I was wondering, is it going to hurt anything if I leave my TP plugged >in all the time? Or is it better just to unplug it? Thanks for any >insight... I have a dedicated machine connected to the net at home that died last month. I replaced it with my girlfriend's TP701C until I could afford and configure a new machine. It has been running day and night for 1.5 month without a hiccup. Standby is disabled and APS is enabled only for the screen. The funny thing is that it doesn't seem to produce heat. So I would say it doesn't seem to hurt, at least based on my (short) experience. I wish they would make desktop machines that quiet :-) -- Dominique ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 09:11:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA142803460; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:11:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21921; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:07:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:03:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21495; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:03:47 -0500 Received: from mhv.net (root@spice.mhv.net [199.0.0.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21485; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:03:43 -0500 Received: from taifun.octintl.com (yce@nb291-11.warwick.net [204.255.29.21]) by mhv.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21246 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:03:35 -0500 Received: (from yce@localhost) by taifun.octintl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA00149; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 08:54:25 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 08:54:25 -0500 From: yves@mhv.net Message-Id: <199702241354.IAA00149@taifun.octintl.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: clean screen In-Reply-To: <01IFR3YEFEM499DWDO@Opus1.COM> References: <199702211554.HAA11996@mailhub.Cadence.COM> <9702212017.AA18238@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> <199702212142.QAA00415@taifun.octintl.com> <01IFR3YEFEM499DWDO@Opus1.COM> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu billy@mix.com writes: > > When I spoke to IBM (last year) they suggested that I use some Windex > > and a paper towel... And that's worked fine since then. > > I usually use just a big camel's hair brush (dry) but I do like > Windex for the two video terminals on my desk and once in a while > I'll lightly go over the Thinkpad screen with the same towel after > first getting the two regular terminals. I don't think I'd want > to spray Windex directly on the Thinkpad though with just a little > on the towel it works fine - no risk of any getting into the key- > board or whatever... Well, that's sort of what I meant... I spray the towel first, not the tpad... I don't know if I'd use the same towel after cleaning other terminals... the dust you picked up could scratch the lcd. (At least it is an abrasive, so...) -yce -- Yves-Chandler Eynard yves@mhv.net yves@warwick.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 09:20:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA144504052; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:20:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23188; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:15:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:13:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22631; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:13:10 -0500 Received: from tky0.attnet.or.jp (tky0.attnet.or.jp [165.76.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22550; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:12:54 -0500 Received: from default by tky0.attnet.or.jp (8.7.5+Spin/3.4W4-PP-R4(12/25/96)) id XAA26802; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:12:37 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199702241412.XAA26802@tky0.attnet.or.jp> From: "Maiko Kobayashi" To: Subject: ThinkPad 365 with internal FDD? Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:22:13 +0900 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am considering to buy an IBM ThinkPad 365. The only feature I don't like is that the floppy disk drive is external on models with a CD-ROM. I would prefer an internal FDD because I use disks much more often than CDs. Is it possible to get a ThinkPad 365 with an internal FDD and an external (or maybe even swappable) CD-ROM? I thought of buying a ThinkPad without CD-ROM and upgrading it later. Would the CD-ROM then be external and how much does the upgrade cost? I am also interested in how current ThinkPad users see this issue. Does it bother you that you have to carry around a separate FDD if you want to use disks on the road? Thank you for your help. Friedrich Huebler via mkobay@tky0.attnet.or.jp From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 11:38:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA174562291; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 11:38:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09761; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 11:32:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 11:28:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09162; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 11:28:54 -0500 Received: from zorro.bctel.ca (zorro.bctel.ca [204.174.64.65]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09152; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 11:28:50 -0500 Received: from Thinkpad.cadvision.com (vanc01m05-8.bctel.ca [207.102.216.8]) by zorro.bctel.ca (8.8.4/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA05565; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 08:27:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3311B377.5BCF@bc.sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:27:51 -0800 From: "David S. Crombie" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Maiko Kobayashi Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 365 with internal FDD? References: <199702241412.XAA26802@tky0.attnet.or.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have had my 365XD for 4 months now and have used the FDD about 2-3 times. I am on the road all the time and have found that I have no need for it anymore. I thought that this would be an issue whenI purchased the machine but it has not been. If I need a file I will ususally connect to a network and get it. As for the CD/FDD in/out issue - you can get an internal FDD, but this means sacrificing the CD altogether. You could purchase an external direct from IBM, but I believe that is an expensive option. David Crombie Maiko Kobayashi wrote: > > I am considering to buy an IBM ThinkPad 365. The only feature I don't like > is that the floppy disk drive is external on models with a CD-ROM. I would > prefer an internal FDD because I use disks much more often than CDs. > > Is it possible to get a ThinkPad 365 with an internal FDD and an external > (or maybe even swappable) CD-ROM? I thought of buying a ThinkPad without > CD-ROM and upgrading it later. Would the CD-ROM then be external and how > much does the upgrade cost? > > I am also interested in how current ThinkPad users see this issue. Does it > bother you that you have to carry around a separate FDD if you want to use > disks on the road? > > Thank you for your help. > > Friedrich Huebler via mkobay@tky0.attnet.or.jp From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 12:22:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA189404964; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 12:22:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15609; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 12:17:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 12:14:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14915; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 12:13:58 -0500 Received: from clgrps05.agt.net (clgrps05.agt.net [198.161.156.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14904; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 12:13:53 -0500 Received: from edtnpx01-port-31.agt.net ([198.161.157.48]) by mail.telusplanet.net with SMTP id <153237-12052>; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 10:13:16 -0700 From: bergy1@telusplanet.net (Kim Bergman) Newsgroups: list.tpad To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Newbie with IR port problems Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 08:08:35 -0700 Reply-To: bergy1@telusplanet.net Message-Id: Lines: 39 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all! Newbie here. No, _I_ don't own a ThinkPad but I have Stinky here for a visit. Who's that?? Stinky is Buddy's 755CE and it needs some work, software problems, hardware is OK. Buddy's been working on this for over a year now without success, hence the (affectionate) Stinky moniker. Finally, he got things so screwed up Stinky wouldn't even boot so he banished Stinky to my house, affectionately known as The Slut Hut, to see if I can make Stinky boot and solve the IR port problem. You'll probably see me here for a while, just long enough to pick your brains for some answers. Soon as Stinky is "fixed", he'll go back to Buddy's house, I'll disappear and Buddy will keep you all company. BTW, I fixed the boot problem already, just some typos in autoexec.bat. Stinky has: 8 RAM, 800 HD, mwave (2780), IR port, serial port (Serial A in BIOS), 3.5 floppy, no CD, no docking station or PCMCIA cards though the slots are there, 486DX100 (maybe DX50?). Peripherals include an HP DeskJet 340 with HP IR adapter on the IR port and Logitech PageScan Color on the parallel. The problem seems to be that the scanner drivers overwrite the IR and mwave drivers as both IR and mwave quit working as soon as the scanner drivers are installed. Buddy tried upgrading to all the latest drivers, ThinkPad Utils, ThinkPad Mwave Features, BIOS upgrade, etc. Since Stinky came to visit with me, I've reformatted the HD, installed Win3.1, all the ver.2 mwave stuff, another BIOS upgrade, the latest ThinkPad Utils from IBM and DJ340 drivers from HP. I installed the Utils, then mwave, IR and scanner, in that order. Again, the IR and mwave work fine before installing the scanner software but not after. Does anybody have something similar working under 3.1 or WfW: mwave, printer on IR and scanner on parallel? How did you do it? We know it works under Win95 but don't want to run 95 on just 8 RAM. We would like to stay with Win3.1 and 8 RAM if possible. Thanks, Kim Bergman (bergy1@telusplanet.net) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 13:25:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA207808719; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:25:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22348; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:19:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:14:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21738; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:14:16 -0500 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21722; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:14:09 -0500 From: Received: from evt-mx100-ip207.halcyon.com by mail1.halcyon.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/10Nov96-0444PM) id AA23170; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 10:13:33 -0800 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970224181008.006828c4@mail.halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@mail.halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 10:10:08 -0800 To: "Maiko Kobayashi" Subject: Re: ThinkPad 365 with internal FDD? Cc: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 04:22 PM 2/24/97 +0900, you wrote: >I am considering to buy an IBM ThinkPad 365. The only feature I don't like >is that the floppy disk drive is external on models with a CD-ROM. I would >prefer an internal FDD because I use disks much more often than CDs. > >Is it possible to get a ThinkPad 365 with an internal FDD and an external >(or maybe even swappable) CD-ROM? I thought of buying a ThinkPad without >CD-ROM and upgrading it later. Would the CD-ROM then be external and how >much does the upgrade cost? > I opted for the 365X (with internal fd) and bought a Panasonic external cd drive. This configuration works well for me because I use disks more often (back up, file transfers) and have the cd drive stored at home for installations when I need it. I have no need to cart a cd player on the road. The fd is not removeable, therefore not swappable with anything. I bought the cd player from PC Connection rather than buying an IBM one because of the prices were better. I have had no problem with the external cd player. Good luck with your decision, Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 16:03:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA270958179; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:02:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04736; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 15:04:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:59:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04112; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:59:56 -0500 Received: from peritus.com (benden.peritus.com [199.26.190.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04090; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:59:47 -0500 Received: from tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com [199.26.191.60]) by peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.12/Peritus-3.0) with ESMTP for id OAA22203; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:32:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.9/Peritus-2.0) id OAA02305; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:37:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199702241937.OAA02305@tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Mwave Win95 observation Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:37:21 -0500 From: Don Markuson Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone noticed that the mwmdm*.inf file included in the Mwave 2.22 package (and Dynalink's 33.6k upgrade) shows modem responses of "CONNECT 14200" instead of "CONNECT 14400"? This has caused certain grief with Win95's unimodem driver resulting in 14.4k connections being confusingly reported as the DTE speed (in my case 56k) and seeing strange "00/ECLC" junk in the dial-up scripting terminal-session window. I changed "14200" to "14400" in the three places in the .inf it appeared and voila, Win95 is much happier! I don't recall this was a problem in earlier versions of the MWave 28.8 software (e.g. 2.0). ..Don Markuson From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 17:37:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA047403869; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:37:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24029; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:31:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:25:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23218; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:25:54 -0500 Received: from sst.ll.mit.edu (pluto.sst.ll.mit.edu [129.55.21.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23201; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:25:50 -0500 Received: by sst.ll.mit.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA13545; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:18:42 -0500 Received: from orion(192.5.135.26) by pluto via smap (V2.0beta) id xma013543; Mon, 24 Feb 97 17:18:17 -0500 Received: from eve (eve [192.5.135.70]) by sst.ll.mit.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA14132; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:25:43 -0500 (EST) Sender: kukolich@sst.ll.mit.edu Message-Id: <33121565.37C5@ll.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:25:41 -0500 From: Linda C Kukolich X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Does Solaris support mwave..? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Does Solaris support mwave..? (fwd) > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:48:03 -0700 > From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) > To: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) > CC: scottm@kcls.org, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > > Also, if the MWave is hardware register compatible with Sound Blaster * > > cards, the following procedure should get you sound under Linux: > > > > 1. Boot DOS and run MWave sound initialization. > > 2. Run LoadLin to boot into Linux (kernel sound config should match > > the DOS sound config). > > This does work fine! > > > Regards, > > Dave. > > -- > Brad Pepers Proud supporter of Linux and I have used this method to get 8 bit sound. (Thanks to the folks who told me how). Does anyone know how to refine this to get 16 bit sound? We've officially given up on using the speech part of our demo on the ThinkPad, but it would be nice to know it was actually possible to have done it. -- Linda Kukolich kukolich@sst.ll.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 17:57:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA061365048; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:57:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26214; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:50:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:46:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25681; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:46:46 -0500 Received: from lance.castle.net (root@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25666; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:46:39 -0500 Received: from lance (mbernste@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by lance.castle.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA10990 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:48:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:48:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael P. Bernstein" X-Sender: mbernste@lance To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 28.8 & MIDI Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone been sucessful at getting MIDI sound to work while connected at 28.8BPS using the mwave modem on a TP 760ED? If so, let me know how. I heard that the mwave runs out of resources which is why it can only do it at 14.4 or lower. Thanks! /\/\ike Bernstein (http://www.castle.net/~mbernste/welcome.html) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 18:34:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA086607248; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:34:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01143; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:28:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:26:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00828; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:26:14 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00800; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:26:05 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA135145; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:25:44 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-154.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.154) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smagV8DM2; Mon Feb 24 23:25:16 1997 Message-Id: <3312232B.5E6@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:24:27 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael P. Bernstein" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 28.8 & MIDI References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Michael P. Bernstein wrote: > Has anyone been sucessful at getting MIDI sound to work while connected at > 28.8BPS using the mwave modem on a TP 760ED? If so, let me know how. I > heard that the mwave runs out of resources which is why it can only do it > at 14.4 or lower. Under OS/2, you can start your midi/mwave stuff in the startup.cmd and it really helps on resources (this was the side-effect in the 755 series). Under NT 4.0/95, there should be a way, but you really need at least 24MB of RAM for most thinkpads that support the mwave/midi stuff. -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. 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From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 20:12:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA111533158; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:12:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10065; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:08:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:04:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09480; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:04:28 -0500 Received: from emout11.mail.aol.com (emout11.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09468; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:04:21 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout11.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA29320 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:03:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:03:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970224200347_-1742028075@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755cd and win95 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a 755cd (486 dx 100) with 8 megs of ram. I am currently running win3.1 but wish to upgrade to win 95. WIll the system operate efficiently as is? IF not, will the sytem run efficiently with an 8 meg upgrade? thank you.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 21:50:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA135749018; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:50:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20385; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:45:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:41:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19863; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:41:28 -0500 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk (mail-e.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19851; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:41:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199702250241.VAA19851@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-7.ucl.ac.uk by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 02:41:13 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: TP750Cs vs. IBM DCRA-22160 (2.1 GB HD) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 02:41:15 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I had no problem putting an IBM DPRA-21250 (1.2 GB HD) into my TP750Cs (with SYTPS142.EXE system program [bios] upgrade). I also had no problem with a Toshiba MK-1301MAV 1.3 GB drive. However, I can't get my system to recognize an IBM DCRA-22160 is even attached to the system. After turning on the power, the TP750Cs HD LED stays continuously lighted. Is the DCRA-22160 defective? Can a TP750Cs access 2.1 GB HD? Thanks, AJ Annala, Pharmacology, University College London From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 23:05:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA153673509; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:05:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28590; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:01:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:58:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28189; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:58:15 -0500 Received: from ra.isisnet.com (root@ra.isisnet.com [199.45.83.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28176; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:58:10 -0500 Received: from ra.isisnet.com by ra.isisnet.com (8.8.3/SMI-SVR4) id XAA02774; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:54:07 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970224235628.006f19f0@isisnet.com> X-Sender: robsteve@isisnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:56:32 -0400 To: , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Robert G. Stevens" Subject: Re: 755cd and win95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:03 PM 24/02/97 -0500, Fredmmill@aol.com wrote: >I have a 755cd (486 dx 100) with 8 megs of ram. I am currently running >win3.1 but wish to upgrade to win 95. > >WIll the system operate efficiently as is? >IF not, will the sytem run efficiently with an 8 meg upgrade? > >thank you.. > > Fred: Win 95 is pitiful in 8 megs. I have a 755CDV that I upgraded to 16 megs immediately after converting to Win 95. It worked quit well at 16mb. From desktop experience, I found that 20mb or more made a big difference from 16mb so I took out the 8mb card and put in a 16mb card for a total of 24mb. It seems to work well with this combination. I found it makes a big difference when using Netscape as well. It seems that Netscape was more reliable and quicker with more memory in the machine. If you do want to try with 16mb, I have the old 8mb card from my machine. It is an IBM Platinum Card by Viking with a lifetime warranty and is the more expensive parity memory. I would take fifty US dollars for it. Regards Robert Stevens From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 23:42:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA163495755; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:42:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02395; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:39:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:36:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02197; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:36:16 -0500 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem217.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.217]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02179; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:36:09 -0500 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00478; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:33:36 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <970224200347_-1742028075@emout11.mail.aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:31:21 -0800 (PST) From: derelict To: Fredmmill@aol.com Subject: RE: 755cd and win95 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I would recomend more ram. My 755CD with the P75 was too slow (for my personal taste) with only 8Megs. Most of the win95 system stuff takes up most of the 8M anyway. I say splurge and get as much ram as you can, it 40Megs is much nicer than 8..... -Mike On 25-Feb-97 Fredmmill@aol.com wrote: >I have a 755cd (486 dx 100) with 8 megs of ram. I am currently running >win3.1 but wish to upgrade to win 95. > >WIll the system operate efficiently as is? >IF not, will the sytem run efficiently with an 8 meg upgrade? > >thank you.. -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 23:46:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA164346005; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:46:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03089; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:43:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:39:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02428; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:39:51 -0500 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem217.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.217]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02417; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:39:38 -0500 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00481; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:37:11 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <33121565.37C5@ll.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:34:01 -0800 (PST) From: derelict To: Linda C Kukolich Subject: Re: Does Solaris support mwave..? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Linda, I believe if you initialize the SB emulation using mwgames on pro This will give you 16 bit sound. However no CD sound anymore. I think if you type mwgames by itself it will give you a list of options. -Mike On 24-Feb-97 Linda C Kukolich wrote: >> Subject: Re: Does Solaris support mwave..? (fwd) [snip] > > >> > 1. Boot DOS and run MWave sound initialization. >> > 2. Run LoadLin to boot into Linux (kernel sound config should match >> > the DOS sound config). >> [snip] > -- >> Brad Pepers Proud supporter of Linux and > >I have used this method to get 8 bit sound. (Thanks to the folks >who told me how). Does anyone know how to refine this to get >16 bit sound? We've officially given up on using the speech part >of our demo on the ThinkPad, but it would be nice to know it was >actually possible to have done it. >-- >Linda Kukolich >kukolich@sst.ll.mit.edu -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Feb 24 23:56:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA166116568; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:56:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04208; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:52:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:50:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03858; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:50:08 -0500 Received: from bonjour.cc.columbia.edu (cu8264@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03829; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:50:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (pm119@localhost) by bonjour.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA13446; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:49:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:49:57 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes Sender: pm119@columbia.edu To: Steve Mayeda Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: HOW TO: [TP750C] / [IomegaZip] / [PanasonicCDROM] In-Reply-To: <199702212330.PAA26236@liszt.net.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ThinkPad 750C -- Iomega ZIP drive -- Panasonic KXL-D720 CD-ROM Part 1. Physically linking the two SCSI devices to the TP ========================================================= a) The card that comes with the CD-ROM is a SCSI card. The cable that comes from the card ends in a MALE SCSI-2 plug (also called "Mini D50 male"), depending on where you shop... Since the Zip drive requires a 25-pin MALE plug (also called "Male SCSI MacDB25", among many other names), the first step is to get some form of adapter. Personally, I did this in two stages ("Female SCSI-2 to Male SCSI-1 adapter" + "Female SCSI-1 to Male DB25 cable", which plugs into the Zip drive), but this is because I already had the cable, so I just bought the adapter; if I were to start from scratch, I would buy a single cable (Female SCSI-2 to Male DB25), which would be more elegant. Female SCSI-2s are hard to come by, for whatever strange reason; in the end Cables-to-Go solved my problem (800 826 7904), but other sources are also available, I am sure. The ideal situation, of course, would be to find a cable that went directly from the card to the Zip drive, but that seems to be wishing for too much - if anyone comes across one of these, do let me know. b) Having connected the SCSI card to the Zip drive, the rest is easy: a simple "SCSI male DB25 to Male SCSI-2" (see alternative names above) can be found from a variety of sources. Personally, I got mine from MacWarehouse (800 255 6227), but that's only because we buy a lot of stuff from them and I could get a good deal. c) Keep the length of cable down to a minimum. In total, I have about 3 to 4 feet of cable. I'm not an expert, but I believe that SCSI devices are a little whimsical about travelling long distances. If anyone has technical information to confirm or deny this notion, I would appreciate your comments. d) Make sure that the Zip drive is NOT a terminator and also set the DIP switches in the CD-ROM drive to make that a terminator (just follow the instructions in each of the manuals). By default each of these devices has a different SCSI ID number, so this shouldn't cause you any trouble. Ok, physically, this is the end of the story. If you're still reading this, then I'm sure you can't wait for "Part 2", which will deal with the setting up of the system... :) Remember that all this hookig up is done with the computer OFF... Hope this is of help. -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 02:03:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA224934236; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 02:03:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15769; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 02:00:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 01:56:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15473; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 01:56:56 -0500 Received: from vortex.uplanet.com (host-165-3.uplanet.com [204.163.165.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15463; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 01:56:52 -0500 Received: from tibia.uplanet.com by vortex.uplanet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA20472; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:56:49 -0800 Received: from tibia.uplanet.com (tibia.uplanet.com [127.0.0.1]) by tibia.uplanet.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA03017 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:56:19 -0800 Message-Id: <199702250656.WAA03017@tibia.uplanet.com> Cc: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: OK to leave plugged in? Reply-To: Jesse Montrose In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:49:04 PST." Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:56:19 -0800 From: Jesse V Montrose Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In message you write: >I was wondering, is it going to hurt anything if I leave my TP plugged in >all the time? Or is it better just to unplug it? Thanks for any >insight... Not exactly insight, but a datapoint.. I've had my 755cs for about two and a half years, and during that period, it's been plugged into AC almost continuously :) I'm not aware of any ill-effects, I'm even still using my original battery. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 06:58:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA095601893; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 06:58:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06766; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:14:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:08:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05943; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:08:53 -0500 Received: from pyrrhus.alice-compusystems.com (alc130.syspac.com [204.181.55.207]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05931; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:08:48 -0500 Received: by pyrrhus.alice-compusystems.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0vzF9R-00012FC; Mon, 24 Feb 97 22:10 MST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 22:10 MST From: jones@alice-compusystems.com (David Jones) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 + Win95 + KXL-D720 = No Joy Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone had success with the above combination? As a point of information, I loaded Win95 on the 701 using the KXL-D720 CD-ROM drive as the source! This was under DOS of course. I had no trouble with the load and Win95 is working fine except... I then added the Win95 driver for the KXL-C001 (the SCSI PCMCIA controller) from Panasonic. Unfortunately Win95 does not recognize the CD-ROM drive. The Device Manager flags the KXL-C001 in its warning yellow color. Thanks, David Jones From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 07:02:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA098742163; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 07:02:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06801; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:14:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:09:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06028; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:09:14 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05997; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:09:09 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-b-30.usc.edu [128.125.222.30]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id VAA24390; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:08:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970224144959.0077da9c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:09:46 -0800 To: Dominique Pivard From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: info about TP 560 video system Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 09:02 AM 2/23/97, Dominique Pivard wrote: >What is the video chip used on the TP560? How much memory has it got? It says "IBM ThinkPad (Cyber 9385/82) PCI" 1 MB. Gives you 16-bit color at 800x600. Plenty for me (there's no significant difference, perceptually speaking, between that and 24-bit). > What >is the maximum resolution available with the internal display and with an >external CRT? What is the maximum color depth available? You can do 24-bit with 640x480. I believe you can run an external display at 1024x768. The 12.1" TFT panel is 800x600. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 07:05:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA100412344; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 07:05:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06663; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:13:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:09:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05998; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:09:10 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05982; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:09:05 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-b-30.usc.edu [128.125.222.30]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id VAA24395; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:08:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970224145838.01364054@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:09:48 -0800 To: Scott McDermott From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: OK to leave plugged in? Cc: Thinkpad List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:49 AM 2/24/97 -0800, Scott McDermott wrote: >I was wondering, is it going to hurt anything if I leave my TP plugged in >all the time? Or is it better just to unplug it? Thanks for any >insight... Which model? What type of battery? If Lithium-Ion, it shouldn't be a problem. If NiMH or NiCD, it could be (unless its a 701, which claims to play by different rules, but who knows?). In the early days of the list when most of us were running ThinkPad 750's, many of us found out the hard way that leaving it plugged in all the time (with the battery in them) cycled the battery a lot--would drop to 90% charge, then re-charge up to 100%, back to 90, etc. It killed off our batteries far too early. No fun at all. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 07:13:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA104322797; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 07:13:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06666; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:13:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:09:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06133; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:09:50 -0500 Received: from bonjour.cc.columbia.edu (cu8264@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06102; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:09:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (pm119@localhost) by bonjour.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA17031 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:09:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:09:33 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes Sender: pm119@columbia.edu To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: HOW TO: TP/Zip/CDROM (Part 2) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ThinkPad 750C -- Iomega ZIP drive -- Panasonic KXL-D720 CD-ROM Part 2. Getting your system to talk to the two SCSI devices. ============================================================ Although I have the two devices connected and working, I'm not happy with the arrangement. First, the background: I have MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows for Workgroups 3.11 running on my ThinkPad 750C; the HD is a tiny 340 Mb one, but it's what can be afforded at the moment; the 16 Mb card gives me a total of 20 Mb. If, contrary to the set up which I described in Part 1 of this message, I have only one SCSI device hooked up (either the Zip drive or the CD-ROM), everything works perfectly. No problems with the Panasonic, as one would expect, since card and drive were made for one another. The Zip drive also works fine, with GUEST.EXE working without any complaining. So far so good. As soon as I hook up the two SCSIs together, trouble starts. GUEST.EXE no longer works (I have tried different alternatives in the GUEST.INI file, without much success). The system either hangs, or just refuses to give me a letter for the Zip drive. The funny thing is that, although useless, the Zip drive does not stop the ThinkPad from reaching the CD-ROM!... Any suggestions from those more knowledgeable in these things would be greatly appreciated. I have found a way around this problem, however. If I load DEVICE=C:\iomega\SCSICFG.EXE DEVICE=C:\iomega\SCSIDRVR.SYS in my CONFIG.SYS, then I have access to both Zip (drive D:) and CD-ROM (drive E:)... The problem with this situation is that my memory seems to disappear into limbo!... I can load, say, my word processor, but nothing else - it is not the fault of the word processor, since the same happens if I load anything else. Basically I am limited to ONE application... Considering that I have 20 MB of RAM, this is a little silly... I suspect that the culprit is some of the sofware that comes with the Zip drive (Tools, etc), but I cannot be sure. So far I have tried a number of different alternatives, but without much success. The bottom line, then, is that I have access to both Zip and CD-ROM at the expense of being able to run only one program at a time. Of course this means that in most cases (when I don't need to access either of the SCSI devices) I simply do not load support for them... If you have any suggestions to improve this situation, I would be very grateful. In spite of the limitations, I hope this will be useful. -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 11:27:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA243308039; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:27:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27849; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:27:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:22:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27200; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:22:44 -0500 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27179; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:22:38 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx14-07.teleport.com [206.163.124.168]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA22163; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 08:22:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 08:22:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702251622.IAA22163@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) From: Bryan Daum Subject: CDLINK Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu David, Still looking for cdlink to use the desktop's cd for downloading to 701. Tried the url: www.singnet.com.sg/~storage/cdlink.htm but no joy. Is all spelled right? Anyone else know the url or another program that would do the same easily/cheaply? [ I just want to do the W95 transition easily] Bryan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 14:49:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA022520186; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:49:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18865; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:44:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:38:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17842; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:38:37 -0500 Received: from ra.isisnet.com (root@ra.isisnet.com [199.45.83.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17793; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:38:30 -0500 Received: from 755cdv by ra.isisnet.com (8.8.3/SMI-SVR4) id PAA27959; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:31:29 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970225153447.00701be8@isisnet.com> X-Sender: robsteve@isisnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:34:50 -0400 To: Bryan Daum , ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) From: "Robert G. Stevens" Subject: Re: CDLINK Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:22 AM 25/02/97 -0800, Bryan Daum wrote: >David, > >Still looking for cdlink to use the desktop's cd for downloading to 701. >Tried the url: www.singnet.com.sg/~storage/cdlink.htm but no joy. Is all >spelled right? > >Anyone else know the url or another program that would do the same >easily/cheaply? [ I just want to do the W95 transition easily] > >Bryan > > > Bryan: If you can network to a desktop using a pcmcia network card, just copy the win95 directory to your 701 hard drive. Another option is to use a zip drive. Attach the zip drive to the desktop with the cd rom, copy the win95 directory and then attach the zip to your 701 and copy the directory there. I had a 701 for a short time and did the win 95 install by copying the cd files to a pcmcia hard drive and then inserted the drive into the 701 and ran the install off the pcmcia drive. It doesn't matter how you get the files off the cdrom onto your hard drive, laplink or tranxit or whatever the Thinkpad ships with will do. It is about 32mb of files. Regards Robert Stevens From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 17:29:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA067529793; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:29:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11915; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:27:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:24:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11452; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:24:14 -0500 Received: from mail2.ipf.de (mail.ipf.de [194.152.32.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11431; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:24:07 -0500 Received: from dialin102.ipf.de ([195.88.255.102]) by mail2.ipf.de (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA4463; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:22:23 -0100 From: "Joerg Klemenz" To: "joergk@hotmail.com" , "philip.c@virgin.net" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 23:23:50 -0100 Reply-To: "Joerg Klemenz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Joerg Klemenz's Registered PMMail 1.9 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IBM Software upgrades Message-Id: <19970226002219.AAA4463@dialin102.ipf.de> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:52:55 -0000, philip.c@virgin.net wrote: >I am using a Thinkpad 760LD with Windows95 and have recently come across [..] >Which, if any, of the upgrades should I be looking at downloading and [..] >I intend to purchase a PCMCIA fax/modem for use with the 760LD. It is always a good idea to download all new versions and read the "README" file to see what bugs have been fixed. Unexperienced users often blame Video-driver bugs on the Word processor etc... In your special case I would look if there is a newer BIOS (you can see your version in the Fn-F1 menu, last page I think, GR3O is the GeRman version 3O). Copy it to a disk and boot with it. YOu don't need to install any driver for a PC-Card (formerly PCMCIA) modem. I suggest a MegaHertz and most listmembers would probably agree... joerg klemenz (joergk@ipf.de) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 17:47:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA073610870; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:47:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14376; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:45:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:41:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13732; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:41:19 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13712; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:41:14 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08576; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:36:36 -0700 Message-Id: <33136710.13E5@wwsi.com> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:26:24 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Sergiu Hart Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tp560 + w95 + combo card X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199702252133.XAA18941@sunset.ma.huji.ac.il> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There are a couple of shareware programs (like TCP Switcher) that will help you do this. They are at the normal shareware sites (like www.windows95.com). Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 18:33:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA085893605; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:33:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19890; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:30:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:22:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18745; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:22:46 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18711; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:22:33 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IFU7HBU1HC99FNNE@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:21:47 MST Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:07:16 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: 28.8 & MIDI In-Reply-To: "Message dated Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:48:25 -0500 (EST)" Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IFU843KCDY99FNNE@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Has anyone been sucessful at getting MIDI sound to work while connected at > 28.8BPS using the mwave modem on a TP 760ED? My 755CE works using the latest MWave software but it can get pretty scary at times. I usually have a window of Netscape or whatever on the top 4/5 of the screen and some minimized stuff along the bottom (clock, fuel, modem, TCP/IP kernel, etc) and sometimes all these little icons change color, pictures become blank, etc - that is it looks like the Thinkpad or MWave can just barely keep up with it all. Visually it'd make a great effect in a science fiction movie - but it does work... This doesn't happen every time but it does often enough. I also have 24MB of memory which I'm sure helps - I looked at how much was used after one of these little episodes and there was only about 1MB free. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 19:02:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA091425334; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:02:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22579; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:59:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:56:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22240; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:56:57 -0500 Received: from ibsdns1.ibs.uscs.com (ibsdns1.ibs.uscs.com [165.79.140.230]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22229; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:56:50 -0500 Received: from derka.ibs.uscs.com ([165.79.144.189]) by ibsdns1.ibs.uscs.com (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-16816) with SMTP id AAA134 for <@ibsdns1.ibs.uscs.com:thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:31:49 -0800 Received: by derka.ibs.uscs.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id PAA09260; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:56:14 -0800 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:56:14 -0800 From: tcb@derka.ibs.uscs.com (Tim Barthel) Message-Id: <199702252356.PAA09260@derka.ibs.uscs.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: NT on 755CSE Reply-To: barthetc@ibsdns1.ibs.uscs.com Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Our IS department is upgrading to NT but our 755CSE's will only run at 640x480 while docked to a 20" monitor even though IBM's web page claims that the higher resolutions are supported. Under 95, they run at 1024x768 without problems. Does anyone have any experience with this or a solution? Thanks. Tim B. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= === | Timothy C. Barthel email: barthetc@ibs.uscs.com # | Software Engineer === # === | Production Systems Integrity, MS/8388 # # # | International Billing Services voice: 916 939-5832 # # # | 5220 Robert J. Mathews Parkway # # # | El Dorado Hills, CA 95762-5712 fax: 916 939-5531 ####### | # | www http://www.ibs.uscs.com/deptpsi PSI # CORPS |=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= === |He who dies with the most toys, dies twice. - food for thought | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 19:29:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA097396987; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:29:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19429; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:47:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:43:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18677; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:43:17 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18602; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:43:07 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:42:59 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: CDLINK To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:42:59 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It's name is cdlink.zip If you have a place I can upload it to I could do so. Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > > Still looking for cdlink to use the desktop's cd for downloading to 701. > Tried the url: www.singnet.com.sg/~storage/cdlink.htm but no joy. Is all > spelled right? > > Anyone else know the url or another program that would do the same > easily/cheaply? [ I just want to do the W95 transition easily] > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 19:34:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA098607261; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:34:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08989; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:06:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:00:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07820; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:00:53 -0500 Received: from sunset.ma.huji.ac.il (sunset.ma.huji.ac.il [132.64.32.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07762; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:00:37 -0500 Received: (from hart@localhost) by sunset.ma.huji.ac.il (8.6.11/8.6.10) id XAA18941 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:33:17 +0200 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:33:17 +0200 From: Sergiu Hart Message-Id: <199702252133.XAA18941@sunset.ma.huji.ac.il> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: tp560 + w95 + combo card Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu [] i have a tp560 + megahertz xjem3336 combo card (ethernet + modem). it works nicely under win95. one question though: is there a way to switch from an ethernet connection (at the office) to a modem connection (at home) without having to reboot the computer? the problem is that i use ppp for the modem connection, and i have to turn off the ethernet part of the card (my computer -> properties -> device manager) and then reboot, otherwise the ppp connection won't work. any suggestions? also, i have by mistake erased the "thinkpad tools" group, and i would appreciate someone telling me what it included. i remember things like "change battery", etc., but i could not find anything like it. thanx! bye, --sergiu-- ============================================================== Prof. Sergiu Hart Department of Mathematics and Department of Economics MAIL: Center for Rationality and Interactive Decision Theory The Hebrew University of Jerusalem Feldman Building, Givat Ram 91904 Jerusalem, Israel FAX: +972-2-6513681 PHONE: +972-2-6584135/6 E-MAIL: hart@math.huji.ac.il WWW: http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~hart ============================================================== From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 19:36:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA098867361; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:36:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25722; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:34:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:30:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25340; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:30:48 -0500 Received: from trl.sdl.usu.edu (vishy@trl.sdl.usu.edu [129.123.190.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25320; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:30:44 -0500 Received: (from vishy@localhost) by trl.sdl.usu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA32086; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:30:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:30:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199702260130.SAA32086@trl.sdl.usu.edu> From: Vishy Swaminathan To: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu Cc: scottm@kcls.org, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199702212137.QAA25763@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> (ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu) Subject: Re: Does Solaris support mwave..? (fwd) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >>>>> "Dave" == Dave Ahn writes: >Dave> Since I do not have a TP with MWave, I've never tried this. >Dave> However, for experienced Linux users, I would recommend the >Dave> following "hack" which might have a small (and I stress, >Dave> _small_) chance of working: >Dave> 1. Boot DOS and run any MWave modem initialization. 2. Run >Dave> LoadLin to boot into Linux. 3. Run DOSEmu and open a DOS >Dave> session, loading the necessary MWave drivers to use the modem. >Dave> 4. Run a DOS comm package under DOSEmu. >Dave> (Steps 1-2 may be redundant, in which case booting directly >Dave> into Linux using a bootdiskor LILO should be fine). >Dave> I'd appreciate hearing whether this actually works... I have tried exactly this about six months back when first set up Linux on my 755CD and this does not work. Vishy Swaminathan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Feb 25 23:36:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA148461784; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:36:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16632; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:34:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:30:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16078; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:30:33 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16062; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:30:28 -0500 Received: from 701c (liv-41.rust.net [206.42.195.141]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA02303; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:29:32 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970225232951.007002e0@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:29:51 -0500 To: Sergiu Hart , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: tp560 + w95 + combo card In-Reply-To: <199702252133.XAA18941@sunset.ma.huji.ac.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I don't have a combo card but a separate Megahertz ethernet (XJ) and a XJ-3228 modem. On a 701C under Win95 I use them both simultaneously and never have to reboot except for window's bugs. At 11:33 PM 2/25/97 +0200, you wrote: >i have a tp560 + megahertz xjem3336 combo card (ethernet + modem). >it works nicely under win95. > >one question though: is there a way to switch from an ethernet >connection (at the office) to a modem connection (at home) without >having to reboot the computer? the problem is that i use ppp >for the modem connection, and i have to turn off the ethernet part >of the card (my computer -> properties -> device manager) and then >reboot, otherwise the ppp connection won't work. any suggestions? > >also, i have by mistake erased the "thinkpad tools" group, and i >would appreciate someone telling me what it included. i remember >things like "change battery", etc., but i could not find anything >like it. > >thanx! > >bye, > --sergiu-- >============================================================== > Prof. Sergiu Hart > Department of Mathematics and Department of Economics >MAIL: Center for Rationality and Interactive Decision Theory > The Hebrew University of Jerusalem > Feldman Building, Givat Ram > 91904 Jerusalem, Israel >FAX: +972-2-6513681 >PHONE: +972-2-6584135/6 >E-MAIL: hart@math.huji.ac.il >WWW: http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~hart >============================================================== > > B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 26 00:30:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA158645003; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:30:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22019; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:28:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:25:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21578; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:25:43 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21509; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:25:31 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01002; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:11:06 -0700 Message-Id: <33138D21.69F4@wwsi.com> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:08:49 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: barthetc@ibsdns1.ibs.uscs.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: NT on 755CSE X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199702252356.PAA09260@derka.ibs.uscs.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Did you install all the latest video drivers? My connection just went down, so I can't check them, but I know I got them for my 760E.... -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 26 06:46:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA217397563; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 06:46:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25516; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 06:44:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Feb 1997 06:39:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25089; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 06:39:42 -0500 Received: from ra.isisnet.com (root@ra.isisnet.com [199.45.83.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25077; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 06:39:35 -0500 Received: from 755cdv by ra.isisnet.com (8.8.3/SMI-SVR4) id HAA28865; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:34:11 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970226073730.00697938@isisnet.com> X-Sender: robsteve@isisnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:37:34 -0400 To: Sergiu Hart , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Robert G. Stevens" Subject: Re: tp560 + w95 + combo card Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:33 PM 25/02/97 +0200, Sergiu Hart wrote: > >[] > >i have a tp560 + megahertz xjem3336 combo card (ethernet + modem). >it works nicely under win95. > >one question though: is there a way to switch from an ethernet >connection (at the office) to a modem connection (at home) without >having to reboot the computer? the problem is that i use ppp >for the modem connection, and i have to turn off the ethernet part >of the card (my computer -> properties -> device manager) and then >reboot, otherwise the ppp connection won't work. any suggestions? > >also, i have by mistake erased the "thinkpad tools" group, and i >would appreciate someone telling me what it included. i remember >things like "change battery", etc., but i could not find anything >like it. > >thanx! > >bye, > --sergiu-- >============================================================== > Prof. Sergiu Hart > Department of Mathematics and Department of Economics >MAIL: Center for Rationality and Interactive Decision Theory > The Hebrew University of Jerusalem > Feldman Building, Givat Ram > 91904 Jerusalem, Israel >FAX: +972-2-6513681 >PHONE: +972-2-6584135/6 >E-MAIL: hart@math.huji.ac.il >WWW: http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~hart >============================================================== > > Sergui: I have had a problem with ppp internet connections lately and I think I know the solution. The docking station at work has a network card in it, and the 755cdv also has a 3com pcard in it. When at work, I could not connect via dialup unless I stopped the 3com or removed it. I think I need to set the two network cards to different IP address. Back to your problem, are you dynamically assigning an IP address for the dialup ppp or have you set it to the same IP address as the eithernet card? To check this, go to dial up networking under my computer, right click your server Icon, select properties,server type,TCPIP settngs. Look to see if server assigned IP address is selected or if an IP address is specified. As for your missing group, check the IBM site for a thinkpad utilities disk for your model. Regards Robert Stevens From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 26 07:20:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA221899639; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:20:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29727; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:19:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:16:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29522; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:16:18 -0500 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk ([144.82.100.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29509; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:16:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199702261216.HAA29509@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-15.ucl.ac.uk by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:15:39 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: 2.5 HD Standards??? (TP750Cs vs. IBM DCRA-22160) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:15:51 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, I found the problem with the IBM DCRA-22160 hard drive. IBM changed the definition of the drive select jumpers so the strapping configuration which would normally select the drive as MASTER on other drives (Toshiba MK1301MAV, IBM DPRA-21250, IBM DBOA-2720, etc) actually selects SLAVE on IBM DCRA-22160. To select MASTER on the IBM DCRA-22160, no straps must appear on pins 47 through 50! If you look at the drive from the back with logic board down the pins are numbered as follows: 43 41 ... ... ... 3 1 (GAP) 49 47 44 42 ... ... ... 4 2 (GAP) 50 48 On most drives strapping pins 47 and 48 together will select MASTER (drive 0) configuration. On the IBM DCRA-22160 drive strapping pins 47 and 48 together selects the SLAVE (drive 1) configuration. The symptoms are the drive spins up, HD light remains lighted for about a minute at power on, TP diagnostics find no drive, TP low level format routine finds no drive, and Road Warrior's IDEINFO.EXE program says there is no drive 0 -- only drive 1: >IDE/AT Drive Identify Program 1.0 >(c) Copyright 1991 by Thomas J. Newman >All Rights Reserved. > >The System BIOS reported 0 hard drive(s). >A scan of the hardware found 1 IDE/AT hard drive(s). > >*** Warning: Only one drive found and it's addressed as Drive 1. >Drive 1 Information > > Cylinders........... 4200 > Heads............... 16 > Sectors per track... 63 > Bytes per track..... 0 > Bytes per sector.... 0 > Buffer Size......... 96 Kb > ECC bytes........... 4 > > Model Number........ IBM-DCRA-22160 > Firmware Revision... A81AD0 > Serial Number....... A30A3A23226 > > Drive capacity...... 51 Mb A quick check at http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/dcra and http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/dpra clearly shows a difference in the strapping options. Moreover, inspection of the strapping map provided on the drive housing also shows there is a difference in definition of strapping pins 47 and 48. My quick fix was just to bend pin 48 flat so it would not make a contact with any other pins or with the ribbon cable connector. Now the drive is visible to the TP750Cs and all the configuration parameters seem to be OK. The physical configuration is: 16 Heads, 4200 Cylinders, 63 Sectors The logical configuration is: 128 Heads, 524 Cylinders, 63 Sectors The drive passes all of the usual TP750Cs HD diagnostics, NDD, SYSINFO, and NDIAGS tests. So, everything seems to be OK now. QUESTION: Are there no standards for strapping configuration of 2.5 inch IDE/EIDE disk drives? QUESTION: Why would IBM suddenly change the strapping options on the DCRA-22160 drive to be different from earlier drives? SUGGESTION: If you install a drive, it spins up ok, but there is no apparent contact with the drive logic ... maybe it might be worthwhile getting IDEINFO.EXE from http://www.warrior.com, checking for SLAVE rather than MASTER configuration, checking the strapping options on the drive label or at manufacturer's documentation site, and possibly changing the strapping option -- most likely by bending a pin or two. SUGGESTION: It would be nice if systems which can hold only one drive were to accept either MASTER or SLAVE as correct HD config. This would seem to be a simple firmware/bios/system program fix. An even smarter option would be to use CABLE select (strap pins 48 and 50 together and use logic level on pin 28 to config drive). So far, strapping pins 48 and 50 together requests cable select. PROBLEM: I ran the low level format routine for six hours and it never terminated. Maybe I didn't format the entire drive or this program may not be approrpiate for formatting DCRA-22160 drives. Alexander J. Annala, Ph.D. LMP/Pharmacology Department University College London Gower Street London WC1E 6BT United Kingdom >Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 02:41:15 +0000 >From: "Alexander J. Annala" >To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU >Subject: TP750Cs vs. IBM DCRA-22160 (2.1 GB HD) >Message-Id: <199702250241.VAA19851@CS.UTK.EDU> > >I had no problem putting an IBM DPRA-21250 (1.2 GB HD) into >my TP750Cs (with SYTPS142.EXE system program [bios] upgrade). >I also had no problem with a Toshiba MK-1301MAV 1.3 GB drive. > >However, I can't get my system to recognize an IBM DCRA-22160 >is even attached to the system. After turning on the power, >the TP750Cs HD LED stays continuously lighted. > >Is the DCRA-22160 defective? Can a TP750Cs access 2.1 GB HD? > >Thanks, AJ Annala, Pharmacology, University College London > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 26 08:54:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA238025238; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:53:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06865; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:52:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:48:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06290; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:48:50 -0500 Received: from mailmule1.mindspring.com (mailmule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.192]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06259; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:48:43 -0500 Received: from user-37kb959.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb959.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.169]) by mailmule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA20923; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:48:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199702261348.IAA20923@mailmule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Dominique Pivard" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 23 Feb 97 23:20:34 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: info about TP 560 video system Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Trident Cyber 9382 PCI, there are a web page that has drivers from the pc co & from the RS6000 div. I will sent the exact pages when I find them again. On Sun, 23 Feb 97 09:02:44, Dominique Pivard wrote: >Hi, > >I'm contemplating the purchase of a ThinkPad 560 and I need some >information about its video system, which I couldn't find at >http://www.pc.ibm.com/thinkpad/tp560.html (is there a more complete URL?) > >What is the video chip used on the TP560? How much memory has it got? What >is the maximum resolution available with the internal display and with an >external CRT? What is the maximum color depth available? > >If anyone is running OS/2 on a TP560, I'd be glad to hear comments (it's >the OS I plan to run on it). > >Thanks, > >Dominique >-- >----------------------------------------------------------- >Dominique Pivard >Helsinki, Finland >----------------------------------------------------------- > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 26 08:56:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA238365385; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:56:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07085; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:54:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:51:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06735; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:51:00 -0500 Received: from mailmule1.mindspring.com (mailmule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.192]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06703; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:50:53 -0500 Received: from user-37kb959.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb959.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.169]) by mailmule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA20905; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:48:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199702261348.IAA20905@mailmule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Paul A Khoury" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 23 Feb 97 23:15:58 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701cs (DX4 version) preloaded software Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The TP utilites are found on the IBM site, www.pc.ibm.com/support/tpsu/win311.html. The DOS/Win s/w are not available execpt by purchase from a dealer. On Sun, 23 Feb 1997 20:04:32 EST, Paul A Khoury wrote: >Does anybody know of a web site, ftp site, source, or disks of the >original preloads (excluding disk images, and OSes)? My hard drive got >erased 2 weeks ago, and IBM tech support told me that the preload CD has >been discontinued. Any information is greatly appreciated. > >Paul Khoury >computer.city.paul.khoury@juno.com >paulkhoury@aol.com jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 26 13:28:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA297821721; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:28:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06559; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:15:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:10:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06072; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:10:36 -0500 Received: from ibsdns1.ibs.uscs.com (ibsdns1.ibs.uscs.com [165.79.140.230]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06020; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:10:19 -0500 Received: from derka.ibs.uscs.com ([165.79.144.189]) by ibsdns1.ibs.uscs.com (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-16816) with SMTP id AAA124 for <@ibsdns1.ibs.uscs.com:thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 09:45:21 -0800 Received: by derka.ibs.uscs.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id KAA10083; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 10:09:44 -0800 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 10:09:44 -0800 From: tcb@derka.ibs.uscs.com (Tim Barthel) Message-Id: <199702261809.KAA10083@derka.ibs.uscs.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: NT 4.0 on 755CSE was Re: NT on 755CSE In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970226054202.006c00fc@mail.fuse.net> References: <3.0.32.19970226054202.006c00fc@mail.fuse.net> Reply-To: barthetc@ibsdns1.ibs.uscs.com Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu John R. Morgan writes: > >From my experience with NT 3.51, the driver that ships with NT will do as > you say. If, however, you get the enhanced video driver that IBM posts on > their web page, you'll get the higher resolutions. > At 03:56 PM 2/25/97 -0800, Tim Barthel wrote: > >Our IS department is upgrading to NT but our 755CSE's will only run at > >640x480 while docked to a 20" monitor even though IBM's web page > >claims that the higher resolutions are supported. Under 95, they run > >at 1024x768 without problems. Does anyone have any experience with > >this or a solution? Thanks. > > > >Tim B. > > We are using NT 4.0. We have checked IBM's website. They list VF75XWNT for NT 3.51 on 755's but no driver for 4.0. For a 760, they list VFTP3WNT for 3.51 and VFTP4WNT for 4.0. Where is the 4.0 driver for a 755? TIA. Tim B. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= === | Timothy C. Barthel email: barthetc@ibs.uscs.com # | Software Engineer === # === | Production Systems Integrity, MS/8388 # # # | International Billing Services voice: 916 939-5832 # # # | 5220 Robert J. Mathews Parkway # # # | El Dorado Hills, CA 95762-5712 fax: 916 939-5531 ####### | # | www http://www.ibs.uscs.com/deptpsi PSI # CORPS |=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= === |He who dies with the most toys, dies twice. - food for thought | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 26 19:09:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA089722150; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:09:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12955; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:05:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:59:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12408; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:59:37 -0500 Received: from mailmule0.mindspring.com (mailmule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.191]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12397; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:59:30 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95e.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95e.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.174]) by mailmule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA01993; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:59:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199702262359.SAA01993@mailmule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "barthetc@ibsdns1.ibs.uscs.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Tim Barthel" Date: Wed, 26 Feb 97 18:59:17 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NT 4.0 on 755CSE was Re: NT on 755CSE Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu They should be on the WinNT CD. On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 10:09:44 -0800, Tim Barthel wrote: > >We are using NT 4.0. We have checked IBM's website. They list VF75XWNT >for NT 3.51 on 755's but no driver for 4.0. For a 760, they list >VFTP3WNT for 3.51 and VFTP4WNT for 4.0. Where is the 4.0 driver for a >755? TIA. > >Tim B. > >-- >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > === | Timothy C. Barthel email: barthetc@ibs.uscs.com > # | Software Engineer > === # === | Production Systems Integrity, MS/8388 > # # # | International Billing Services voice: 916 939-5832 > # # # | 5220 Robert J. Mathews Parkway > # # # | El Dorado Hills, CA 95762-5712 fax: 916 939-5531 > ####### | > # | www http://www.ibs.uscs.com/deptpsi > PSI # CORPS |=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > === |He who dies with the most toys, dies twice. - food for thought > | >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 26 19:09:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA089762152; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:09:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12951; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:05:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:59:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12384; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:59:16 -0500 Received: from mailmule0.mindspring.com (mailmule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.191]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12367; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:59:06 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95e.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95e.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.174]) by mailmule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA01074; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:57:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199702262357.SAA01074@mailmule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "David Jones" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 26 Feb 97 18:57:57 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 + Win95 + KXL-D720 = No Joy Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Check for conflicts in device mgr. It is mostlikely trying to use the same IRQ for 2 different things. On Mon, 24 Feb 97 22:10 MST, David Jones wrote: >Has anyone had success with the above combination? As a point of >information, I loaded Win95 on the 701 using the KXL-D720 CD-ROM drive >as the source! This was under DOS of course. I had no trouble with >the load and Win95 is working fine except... I then added the Win95 >driver for the KXL-C001 (the SCSI PCMCIA controller) from Panasonic. >Unfortunately Win95 does not recognize the CD-ROM drive. The Device >Manager flags the KXL-C001 in its warning yellow color. > >Thanks, >David Jones jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 26 19:32:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA095163551; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:32:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14835; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:27:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:23:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14501; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:23:39 -0500 Received: from rain.kcls.org (scottm@rain.kcls.org [198.104.1.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14481; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:23:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (scottm@localhost) by rain.kcls.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id QAA04894 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:23:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:23:06 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McDermott X-Sender: scottm@rain To: Thinkpad List Subject: Pointers on selling your laptop? Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anyone have pointers (or maybe a pointer to a FAQ?) about selling a laptop? Thanks! /* Scott McDermott - Systems Administrator | Deliver yesterday, King County Library System | Code today, PGP key available in the usual places | Think tomorrow */ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 26 19:33:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA095413602; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:33:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14992; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:28:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:25:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14649; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:25:25 -0500 Received: from lance.castle.net (root@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14620; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:25:16 -0500 Received: from BRIDGE145.castle.net (BRIDGE145.castle.net [207.41.125.26]) by lance.castle.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA22445; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:27:01 -0500 Received: by BRIDGE145.castle.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC241A.CABF1000@BRIDGE145.castle.net>; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:25:14 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC241A.CABF1000@BRIDGE145.castle.net> From: Michael Bernstein To: "'billy@MIX.COM'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: 28.8 & MIDI Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:19:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I happen to have 48MB of RAM on my 760ED and have had absolutely no luck getting it to work. Michael Bernstein Corporate Help Desk -----Original Message----- From: billy@MIX.COM [SMTP:billy@MIX.COM] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 1997 6:07 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 28.8 & MIDI > Has anyone been sucessful at getting MIDI sound to work while connected at > 28.8BPS using the mwave modem on a TP 760ED? My 755CE works using the latest MWave software but it can get pretty scary at times. I usually have a window of Netscape or whatever on the top 4/5 of the screen and some minimized stuff along the bottom (clock, fuel, modem, TCP/IP kernel, etc) and sometimes all these little icons change color, pictures become blank, etc - that is it looks like the Thinkpad or MWave can just barely keep up with it all. Visually it'd make a great effect in a science fiction movie - but it does work... This doesn't happen every time but it does often enough. I also have 24MB of memory which I'm sure helps - I looked at how much was used after one of these little episodes and there was only about 1MB free. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Feb 26 22:30:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA139204231; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:30:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29717; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:26:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:22:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29363; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:22:12 -0500 Received: from mercury.thepoint.net ([198.6.9.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29346; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:22:06 -0500 Received: from hal2 by mercury.thepoint.net (8.6.12/) id WAA16381; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:21:48 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970227032446.00686638@pop3.thepoint.net> X-Sender: gamrhein@pop3.thepoint.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:24:46 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: George Amrhein Subject: Re: "Cursor Creep" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The following is a duplicate of a message that I originally sent to the wrong address. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. When the cursor starts creeping while using the Trackpoint, temporarily putting the ThinkPad into "Suspend mode", by either closing the lid, or by pressing Fn + F4 from the keyboard, will cause the cursor to be stable again when the computer resumes from Suspend mode (after the lid is re-opened or by pressing Fn on the keyboard). The computer checks the position of the Trackpoint during the resume from Suspend & recalibrates the center to that location. (My computer is a 701cs. I do not know if other ThinkPad model Trackpoints behave identically to the one on this machine.) If the cursor starts creeping during a session using the modem, etc., I usually tolerate it -- & keep a steady pressure on the Trackpoint to control the cursor -- until after logging off, because Suspend mode shuts down the modem. Hope this helps. GMA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 27 01:09:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA171583763; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:09:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14931; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:05:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:02:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14668; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:02:21 -0500 Received: from mongkok.hk.super.net (root@mongkok.hk.super.net [202.14.67.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14652; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:02:14 -0500 Received: from mango (max3-44.hk.super.net [202.64.19.44]) by mongkok.hk.super.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13567 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:02:08 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <33152531.6839@hk.super.net> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:09:53 +0800 From: Byron Lee Reply-To: byron@HK.Super.NET X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad Subject: Solaris 2.5 on TP 760ED X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu  
Goodday,
    Did anyone successfully install the Solaris 2.5 on the ThinkPad 760ED? According to the hardware compatability list from Sun, the video display on the 760ED is supported. I can install the OS itself, but I have no luck to configure the Openwin. I am using the latest driver update DU7. Any comments on this DU?

    I have another problem on configure the 3Com 3c589c under Solaris. It seems that a wrong ethernet address was detected by the Solaris. The ethernet address of my 3c589c is 00:60:97:49:6c:c6, but under "ifconfig -a" and "arp -a", the address is 00:00:97:97:6c:6c. Any idea on this issue? Thanks!

Regards,
Byron
From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 27 02:31:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA188278675; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:31:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21380; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:27:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:24:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21080; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:24:29 -0500 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk (mail-e.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21070; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:24:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199702270724.CAA21070@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-3.ucl.ac.uk by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:24:22 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: WTB: TP750 HD Caddie --or-- FS: Toshiba MK-1301MAV Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:24:24 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'd like to either buy an authentic TP750 HD caddie (or caddie containing low capacity or dead drive) in the United Kingdom -- or -- sell my Toshiba MK-1301MAV HD to someone in London area. If you have an inexpensive TP750 HD caddie for sale --or-- if you are particularly keen to buy a Toshiba MK-1031MAV HD please contact me via email. My reasoning -- if it isn't too costly it would be nice to have another 1.3 GB HD for use when needed -- but I already have an IBM 1.2 GB HD and an IBM 2.1 GB HD -- so I might as well sell my Toshiba 1.3 GB HD to someone who really needs it. If I acquire an uprade computer it will likely have at least a 1 GB HD -- so I won't need the Toshiba drive to upgrade a new machine. Thanks, Alexander J. Annala, Ph.D. University College London From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 27 02:56:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA192930204; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:56:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23620; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:54:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:52:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23474; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:52:21 -0500 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem094.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.94]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23462; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:52:14 -0500 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA01293; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:48:07 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19970227032446.00686638@pop3.thepoint.net> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:47:10 -0800 (PST) From: derelict To: George Amrhein Subject: Re: "Cursor Creep" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I believe the manual says that if the cursor starts to creep, just don't touch it for a little while and it will stop. At least that has been my personal experience. -Mike On 27-Feb-97 George Amrhein wrote: >The following is a duplicate of a message that I originally sent to the >wrong address. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. > > >When the cursor starts creeping while using the Trackpoint, temporarily >putting the ThinkPad into "Suspend mode", by either closing the lid, or by >pressing Fn + F4 from the keyboard, will cause the cursor to be stable >again when the computer resumes from Suspend mode (after the lid is >re-opened or by pressing Fn on the keyboard). The computer checks the >position of the Trackpoint during the resume from Suspend & recalibrates >the center to that location. (My computer is a 701cs. I do not know if other >ThinkPad model Trackpoints behave identically to the one on this machine.) > >If the cursor starts creeping during a session using the modem, etc., I >usually tolerate it -- & keep a steady pressure on the Trackpoint to control >the cursor -- until after logging off, because Suspend mode shuts down the >modem. > >Hope this helps. > >GMA -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 27 07:57:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA249238249; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:57:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23707; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:50:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:44:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23177; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:44:52 -0500 Received: from goldilocks (goldilocks.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23167; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:44:48 -0500 Received: from ilh-tp (ursa-minor-home.lcs.mit.edu) by goldilocks (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA19762; Thu, 27 Feb 97 07:44:44 EST Sender: ilh@goldilocks.mit.edu Message-Id: <33158193.55C31294@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:44:03 -0500 From: Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: George Amrhein Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: "Cursor Creep" References: <2.2.32.19970227032446.00686638@pop3.thepoint.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My understanding is that when the cursor starts creeping, remove all pressure from it and it will recalibrate within a few seconds. So, by keeping pressure on it to keep it from moving, you're really making the problem worse. Here is something you can try. Keep constant pressure on the trackpoint with the cursor moving constantly and slowly across the screen. The trackpoint will soon filter out this pressure and the cursor will stop. Now, release your pressure and it will creep the other direction until it recalibrates again. -- Lee Hetherington ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 27 09:11:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA264672678; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:11:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00995; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:07:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:04:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00507; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:04:02 -0500 Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00495; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:03:57 -0500 Received: from thomas.ge.com (thomas.ge.com [3.47.28.21]) by ns.ge.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29696 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:02:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from crissy.gemis.ge.com (crissy-ether.gemis.ge.com [3.29.7.204]) by thomas.ge.com (8.8.4/8.7.5) with SMTP id JAA19600 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from salem.ge.com (carsdb.salem.ge.com [3.29.7.15]) by crissy.gemis.ge.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id IAA08664 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:57:30 -0500 Received: from vasale01misge.salem.ge.com by salem.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27296; Thu, 27 Feb 97 08:55:58 EST Received: by vasale01misge.salem.ge.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC248C.27E71BD0@vasale01misge.salem.ge.com>; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:56:44 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Linn, Ernest Y (MIS, SalemVA)" To: "'ThinkPad List Server - Post Message'" Subject: NT 3.51 and IBM Modem Shutdown Conflict Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:56:43 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 20 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My 760ELD (model 9547-U3F) running NT 3.51 Workstation will not sucessfully shutdown to the "Restart" screen. Instead it hangs at the "Please Wait, Saving unsaved data to disk". The problem goes away if the IBM PCMCIA modem (model 25H6420) is removed. I've updated the BIOS to lastest rev from IBM website, but no luck. Has anybody seen this problem. IBM tech support says update the video, audio, and utilities drivers, however it would be nice to know exact what is the source of the problem. g GE Motors & Industrial Systems _____________ Ernest Y. Linn 1501 Roanoke Blvd Salem, VA 24153 (540) 387-7927, 6*278-7927 Dial Comm linn-ey@salem.ge.com ernest.linn@gemis.ge.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 27 10:05:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA285005932; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:05:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07437; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:02:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:58:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06678; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:58:25 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06665; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:58:18 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-49.usc.edu [128.125.223.193]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id GAA12176; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:58:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970226201408.01583a18@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:59:03 -0800 To: George Amrhein From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: "Cursor Creep" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:24 PM 2/26/97 -0500, George Amrhein wrote: >When the cursor starts creeping while using the Trackpoint, temporarily >putting the ThinkPad into "Suspend mode", by either closing the lid, or by >pressing Fn + F4 from the keyboard, will cause the cursor to be stable >again when the computer resumes from Suspend mode (after the lid is >re-opened or by pressing Fn on the keyboard). The computer checks the >position of the Trackpoint during the resume from Suspend & recalibrates >the center to that location. (My computer is a 701cs. I do not know if other >ThinkPad model Trackpoints behave identically to the one on this machine.) Or you could just keep your hands off of it for a few seconds and let it re-calibrate itself... ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 27 10:09:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA286486167; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:09:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07472; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:02:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:58:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06737; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:58:53 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06720; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:58:49 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-49.usc.edu [128.125.223.193]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id GAA12200; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:58:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970226201822.01585614@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:59:05 -0800 To: Scott McDermott From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Pointers on selling your laptop? Cc: Thinkpad List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 04:23 PM 2/26/97 -0800, Scott McDermott wrote: >Anyone have pointers (or maybe a pointer to a FAQ?) about selling a >laptop? Thanks! The main point to selling *any* computer is to hit the right target market. Basically, that means you don't try to sell it on the internet. Why? You have a bunch of very informed, very computer-savvy and cost-conscious consumers. That spells bad news (and low resale value) for you. Don't try to save a buck just to lose hundreds. Fork over the dough to advertise in your local newspaper (hopefully in a major city) and you'll access a whole different population. One that doesn't know as much, isn't as well informed about what's available, and will likely pay a few more bucks. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 27 12:16:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA025023766; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:16:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24640; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:12:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:07:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23990; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:07:49 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23973; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:07:33 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IFWM415AEO99G4LU@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:07:10 MST Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:05:13 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: clean screen In-Reply-To: "Message dated Mon, 24 Feb 1997 08:54:25 -0500" <199702241354.IAA00149@taifun.octintl.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IFWNLCOBCC99G4LU@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII References: <199702211554.HAA11996@mailhub.Cadence.COM> <9702212017.AA18238@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> <199702212142.QAA00415@taifun.octintl.com> <01IFR3YEFEM499DWDO@Opus1.COM> <01IFR3YEFEM499DWDO@Opus1.COM> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Well, that's sort of what I meant... I spray the towel first, not the > tpad... > I don't know if I'd use the same towel after cleaning other > terminals... the dust you picked up could scratch the lcd. (At least > it is an abrasive, so...) True - I fold the towel over and use the clean but still damp side of it for the Thinkpad screen... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 27 13:09:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA036306939; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:08:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00989; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:04:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:01:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00610; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:01:20 -0500 Received: from quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (quartz.nbnet.nb.ca [198.164.200.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00577; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:01:08 -0500 Received: from [207.179.133.9] by quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11373) with ESMTP id AAA2335 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:00:49 -0400 X-Sender: dmohr@mailserv.nbnet.nb.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: dmohr@nbnet.nb.ca (dmohr) Subject: Eye strain with 1024 * 768? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:00:49 -0400 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I expect to purchased the 760XD (MMX) when it becomes available in the next quarter. It comes with a 1024 by 768 screen. I have heard that these screens can be difficult to read. I would like to hear from people who presently have a thinkpad with a 1024 by 768 screen regarding how legible they are. I have not been able to find a vendor where I live who has such a notebook so I need some advice from others. Thanks in advance. Best, Doug From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 27 13:21:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA039367707; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:21:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02984; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:19:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:15:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02282; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:14:58 -0500 Received: from quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (quartz.nbnet.nb.ca [198.164.200.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02268; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:14:52 -0500 Received: from [207.179.133.9] by quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11373) with ESMTP id AAA7108 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:14:34 -0400 X-Sender: dmohr@mailserv.nbnet.nb.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: dmohr@nbnet.nb.ca (dmohr) Subject: Connecting a 760ED to a multimedia projector Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:14:34 -0400 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I plan to purchase a 760XD (MMX) when they become available next quarter. This thinkpad is suppose to have the same amount of VRAM (2 meg) that the 760ED has as well as 12.1 screen with 1024 by 768. I would like to hear what experiences 760ED owners have had in connecting their notebook to a multimedia projector. Specifically, I have the following questions: If the projector is 800 by 600, what happens to the 1024 by 768 screen of the notebook? Does it also become 800 by 600? If so, does the multimedia projector display 16.7 million colours at this lower resolution? If the projector is 1024 by 768 does it display the same 65,000 colours as the notebooks LCD? Is it possible to turn off the LCD screen and in doing so enable a multimedia projector to display 16.7 million at 800 by 600? What about 16.7 million at 1024 by 768? Any other thoughts on connecting a thinkpad to a multimedia projector would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Best, Doug From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 27 13:45:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044559151; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:45:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05619; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:42:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:39:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05258; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:39:55 -0500 Received: from mail-c.bcc.ac.uk (mail-c.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05244; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:39:50 -0500 Received: from [128.40.81.204] (actually host mouse.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-c.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:38:58 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk (Alexander J. Annala) Subject: Windows 95 drivers for TP750Cs? Pp-Warning: No Date field - one added at mail-c.bcc.ac.uk Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:38:59 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I didn't see any 32 bit Windows 95 compliant drivers for TP750 video on the IBM website. What are other people doing for Win95 video support (particularly 1024x768 256 color external monitor support) for the TP750? Also, it is not clear to me whether the TP750 audio support is 16 bit or 32 bit. Does anyone have 32 bit Win95 audio drivers for the TP750? Thanks, Alexander J. Annala, University College London From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 27 15:09:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA062934152; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:09:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16508; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:06:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:02:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16048; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:02:16 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16022; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:02:05 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IFWRNY8MAO99FJBJ@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:30:31 MST Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:04:06 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: RE: 28.8 & MIDI In-Reply-To: "Your message dated Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:19:41 -0500" <01BC241A.CABF1000@BRIDGE145.castle.net> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: Michael Bernstein Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IFWSM2EBSM99FJBJ@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I happen to have 48MB of RAM on my 760ED and have had absolutely > no luck getting it to work. Try something like this - start whatever comm program, connect via the modem and then after it's all running ready to use start a MIDI program. This works for me, in fact pretty well. I can't remember what www sites sent MIDI but this works a lot better, I can leave the Super Jam demo playing and go use the modem without any apparent problem. Maybe having the modem actually running prevents it from getting unloaded/replaced by the MWave MIDI functions? To be sure this is all with V2.22 of the MWave software and Win 3.11. Billy Y.. > -----Original Message----- > From: billy@MIX.COM [SMTP:billy@MIX.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 1997 6:07 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: 28.8 & MIDI > > Has anyone been sucessful at getting MIDI sound to work while connected at > > 28.8BPS using the mwave modem on a TP 760ED? > My 755CE works using the latest MWave software but it can get > pretty scary at times. I usually have a window of Netscape or > whatever on the top 4/5 of the screen and some minimized stuff > along the bottom (clock, fuel, modem, TCP/IP kernel, etc) and > sometimes all these little icons change color, pictures become > blank, etc - that is it looks like the Thinkpad or MWave can > just barely keep up with it all. Visually it'd make a great > effect in a science fiction movie - but it does work... This > doesn't happen every time but it does often enough. > I also have 24MB of memory which I'm sure helps - I looked at > how much was used after one of these little episodes and there > was only about 1MB free. > Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 27 22:00:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA161438806; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:00:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05100; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:57:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:52:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04456; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:52:41 -0500 Received: from enterprise.fuse.net (enterprise-qe0.fuse.net [206.230.20.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04445; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:52:37 -0500 Received: from tp560 (kiang-94.fuse.net [208.16.147.209]) by enterprise.fuse.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA11111; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:51:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970227215246.0068a73c@mail.fuse.net> X-Sender: jrmorgan@mail.fuse.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:52:50 -0500 To: George Amrhein , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "John R. Morgan" Subject: Re: "Cursor Creep" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu According to my thinkpad 560 manual this is normal. Just take your finger off for a moment. It will recalibrate, then stop. At 10:24 PM 2/26/97 -0500, George Amrhein wrote: >The following is a duplicate of a message that I originally sent to the >wrong address. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. > > >When the cursor starts creeping while using the Trackpoint, temporarily >putting the ThinkPad into "Suspend mode", by either closing the lid, or by >pressing Fn + F4 from the keyboard, will cause the cursor to be stable >again when the computer resumes from Suspend mode (after the lid is >re-opened or by pressing Fn on the keyboard). The computer checks the >position of the Trackpoint during the resume from Suspend & recalibrates >the center to that location. (My computer is a 701cs. I do not know if other >ThinkPad model Trackpoints behave identically to the one on this machine.) > >If the cursor starts creeping during a session using the modem, etc., I >usually tolerate it -- & keep a steady pressure on the Trackpoint to control >the cursor -- until after logging off, because Suspend mode shuts down the >modem. > >Hope this helps. > >GMA > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 27 22:50:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA173321816; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:50:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10342; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:47:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:44:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10005; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:44:55 -0500 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09968; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:44:44 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-121-201.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.121.201]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id TAA06886; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:42:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702280342.TAA06886@mail-gw.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Scott McDermott" , "Randy Whittle" Cc: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Re: Pointers on selling your laptop? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:37:10 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Basically, that means you don't try to sell it on the internet. Why? You > have a bunch of very informed, very computer-savvy and cost-conscious > consumers. That spells bad news (and low resale value) for you. I agree whole heartedly. This has been discussed before, but I buy on the Internet and sell in the local papers. I have bought a new Thinkpad every 6 months or so and sold the old for next to what I paid on the internet. For instance, 5 months ago I bought a TP760E 133MHz for $3,000 and sold my TP760C 90MHz for $3,000. Not bad for a zero cost upgrade :) This is the only way I can afford my nerdy vice. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 28 00:18:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA192037079; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:17:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19953; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:13:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:10:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19588; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:10:43 -0500 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk (mail-e.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19533; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:10:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199702280510.AAA19533@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-3.ucl.ac.uk by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:39:17 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: TP750Cs Audio Chipset? Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 05:10:18 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Which audio chipset is used in TP750Cs? Crystal Semiconductor CS4231? CS4232? Other? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 28 12:05:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA041299537; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:05:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03867; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:01:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:56:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03030; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:56:07 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03001; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:55:58 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08400; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:55:44 -0700 Message-Id: <33170D66.4E94@wwsi.com> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:52:54 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: dmohr Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Connecting a 760ED to a multimedia projector X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The Thinkpad needs to be adjusted to the limits of the projector. The projector is just like a monitor; whatever it can do you have to feed it with the machine. ssh -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 28 12:07:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA041829619; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:06:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03871; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:01:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:55:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02807; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:54:57 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02783; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:54:47 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08390; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:54:40 -0700 Message-Id: <33170D26.7269@wwsi.com> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:51:50 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: dmohr Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Eye strain with 1024 * 768? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I *love* my XGA Thinkpad. It's fine for reading (you can always increase the font size), and the real estate is wonderful. Go for it! ssh -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 28 14:57:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA091679848; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:57:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22946; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:52:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:48:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22539; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:48:35 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu ([128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22498; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:47:49 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA11735; Fri, 28 Feb 97 09:47:26 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA12982; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:48:13 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199702281948.JAA12982@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Eye strain with 1024 * 768? To: dmohr@nbnet.nb.ca (dmohr) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 97 9:48:11 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "dmohr" at Feb 27, 97 2:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > quarter. It comes with a 1024 by 768 screen. I have heard that these > screens can be difficult to read. This will be a function of the user's eyes; I know that eyestrain is a much bigger issue for me now than it was 20 years ago. My last laptop purchase was a 12.1" 800x600 instead of 1024x768 for this reason, and frankly I prefer the 640x480 on my 10.5" 701 for some things (though SVGA is minimal real estate for many Windows apps). Remember that for a given screen size, XVGA characters will be 78% the size of SVGA, and 62.5% the size of VGA. Put another way, a character on a 12.1" XVGA screen will be about 72% the size of the same character on a 10.5" VGA screen, despite the bigger overall screen size of the former. (This sounds even worse by area: the 12.1" XVGA character will be roughly half the area of the 10.5" VGA character.) I'm not making any recommendations here, just giving some numbers. If you're young, have good eyes, and like to keep lots of windows open, then go for the highest resolution. If you're a geezer like I am, and think of Windows mainly as a switcher between full-screen tasks, go for plain VGA. SVGA is a good compromise. - David R. - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 28 15:34:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA110612092; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:34:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28447; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:28:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:24:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27622; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:24:52 -0500 Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (mail-gw2.pacbell.net [206.13.28.53]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27605; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:24:44 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-117-168.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.117.168]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA03846; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:24:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702282024.MAA03846@mail-gw2.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "David Ross" , "dmohr" Cc: Subject: Re: Eye strain with 1024 * 768? Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:25:24 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Resolution is not inversly proportional to font size! Since you can scale your screen fonts to any size in Win95, the more pixels to form those characters, the better. I find in XGA resolution, a 150% scale suits me just fine. If your eyes are not what they used to be, scale it to 200% or whatever. ---------- > This will be a function of the user's eyes; I know that eyestrain is a > much bigger issue for me now than it was 20 years ago. My last laptop > purchase was a 12.1" 800x600 instead of 1024x768 for this reason, and > frankly I prefer the 640x480 on my 10.5" 701 for some things (though > SVGA is minimal real estate for many Windows apps). Remember that > for a given screen size, XVGA characters will be 78% the size of SVGA, > and 62.5% the size of VGA. Put another way, a character on a 12.1" > XVGA screen will be about 72% the size of the same character on a > 10.5" VGA screen, despite the bigger overall screen size of the > former. (This sounds even worse by area: the 12.1" XVGA character > will be roughly half the area of the 10.5" VGA character.) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 28 16:16:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA120824569; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:16:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03666; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:07:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:03:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03177; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:03:45 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03097; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:03:35 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA12110; Fri, 28 Feb 97 11:03:32 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA13036; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:04:17 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199702282104.LAA13036@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Eye strain with 1024 * 768? To: TomFrank@pacbell.net (Tom Franklin) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 97 11:04:16 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, dmohr@nbnet.nb.ca, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199702282024.MAA03846@mail-gw2.pacbell.net>; from "Tom Franklin" at Feb 28, 97 12:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Resolution is not inversly proportional to font size! Since you can scale > your screen fonts to any size in Win95, the more pixels to form those > characters, the better. This is not always true. For example, the Terminal font in HyperTerminal only gives you a choice of 8 point and 9 point. Also, DOS apps aren't rescalable (without 'stretching', which looks dreadful, at least on my 800x600 Micron). - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 28 16:58:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA137047130; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:58:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08897; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:51:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:48:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08406; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:48:45 -0500 Received: from zeus.rimco.com (zeus.rimco.com [206.113.1.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08389; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:48:39 -0500 Received: by zeus.rimco.com with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BC2596.19A30F10@zeus.rimco.com>; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:40:26 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Ronald M. Egalka" To: "'Chaplin@emarkt.com'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Bios for 760LD Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:40:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu 1) With machine off, hold down F1 key and turn on machine; 2) supply poweron password, if appropriate; 3) at "Easy-Setup" menu page, BIOS part number and Date are listed and can be compared to IBM's website. Ron Ronald M. Egalka regalka@rimco.com President Rampart Investment Management Company http://www.rimco.com >-----Original Message----- >From: Chaplin@emarkt.com [SMTP:Chaplin@emarkt.com] >Sent: Friday, February 28, 1997 3:41 PM >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Bios for 760LD > >Can anyone please let me know how I can access the bios menu(s) on my >760LD? > >I understand this can be updated via the IBM web site but I am unsure >how to check what version my machine is presently using. > >Many thanks > >Philip > > >-- > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 28 17:59:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA153340799; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 17:59:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01441; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:48:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:44:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00965; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:44:37 -0500 Received: from PhoneLink.COM (fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM [193.195.138.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00951; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:44:27 -0500 Received: from freemuda.prod.PhoneLink.COM by fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM id aa16571; 28 Feb 97 20:24 GMT Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:41:05 GMT From: Chaplin@emarkt.com Subject: Bios for 760LD To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <280297204047000C.Chaplin@emarkt.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Can anyone please let me know how I can access the bios menu(s) on my 760LD? I understand this can be updated via the IBM web site but I am unsure how to check what version my machine is presently using. Many thanks Philip -- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Feb 28 22:21:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA203266492; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:21:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10225; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:18:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:13:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09559; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:13:39 -0500 Received: from mailmule1.mindspring.com (mailmule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.192]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09538; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:13:29 -0500 Received: from user-37kb968.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb968.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.200]) by mailmule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA14487; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:13:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703010313.WAA14487@mailmule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Alexander J. Annala" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 28 Feb 97 22:13:29 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Windows 95 drivers for TP750Cs? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The Video subsystem in win95 is mostly 16 bit code. There is no need for 32 bit drivers & I dought IBM will spend the time & effort to develope them anyway. The audio drivers are also 16 bit. On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:38:59 +0000, Alexander J. Annala wrote: >I didn't see any 32 bit Windows 95 compliant drivers for TP750 >video on the IBM website. What are other people doing for Win95 >video support (particularly 1024x768 256 color external monitor >support) for the TP750? > >Also, it is not clear to me whether the TP750 audio support is >16 bit or 32 bit. Does anyone have 32 bit Win95 audio drivers >for the TP750? > >Thanks, Alexander J. Annala, University College London > > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -