From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 1 23:52:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA022852338; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 23:52:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16152; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 23:50:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 1 Dec 1996 23:35:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14433; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 23:35:55 -0500 Received: from virginia.edu (mars.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14422; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 23:35:46 -0500 Received: from csissun6.ee.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa04106; 1 Dec 96 23:31 EST Received: (from cyj9h@localhost) by csissun6.ee.Virginia.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.6) id XAA01556 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 23:00:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Charles Y. Choi" Message-Id: <199612020400.XAA01556@csissun6.ee.Virginia.EDU> Subject: Virginia 701 Users To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 23:00:02 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello - I have a 701cs whose screen has just failed. My request is simple - I need to get the paper I've spent the entire weekend working on it out of the thing by Wednesday. If you live in the state of Virginia, preferably near Charlottesville and have a 701c or cs please contact me ASAP. Thanks -charles choi@virginia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 00:36:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA027115011; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 00:36:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19868; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 00:35:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 00:33:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19606; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 00:33:48 -0500 Received: from virginia.edu (mars.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19590; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 00:33:42 -0500 Received: from tornado.ee.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa28251; 2 Dec 96 0:30 EST Received: (from cyj9h@localhost) by tornado.ee.Virginia.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.6) id AAA04401 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 00:30:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Charles Y. Choi" Message-Id: <199612020530.AAA04401@tornado.ee.Virginia.EDU> Subject: Re: Virginia 701 Users To: "John H. Kim" Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 00:29:18 -0500 (EST) Cc: cyj9h@csissun6.ee.virginia.edu In-Reply-To: from "John H. Kim" at Dec 2, 96 00:18:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: cyj9h@tornado.ee.virginia.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu John H. Kim replies: >> >> On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Charles Y. Choi wrote: >> >> > I have a 701cs whose screen has just failed. My request is >> > simple - I need to get the paper I've spent the entire weekend >> > working on it out of the thing by Wednesday. >> >> Plug in the multiport adapter and hook it up to an external monitor. >> You'll have to wait for it to boot, then hit Fn-F7 a couple times for >> it to show up on the monitor. Alas if this were only true. The video chip is bad. Both the screen and the external monitor are unable to provide a proper display. Tomorrow it gets sent to Easyserve. On my call for people with a spare 701, thanks to those who've responded but I've figured a way out of this mess - The machine still boots up and thanks to a PCMCIA ethernet card and inetd from the eXceed package I could ftp into the 701 and get the files that I needed out of it. Huzzah that FrameMaker files are portable - Once again, thanks all - -charles -- "Yow! That's almost everybody!" -Zippy From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 07:20:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA065919256; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 07:20:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19416; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 07:20:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 07:15:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19142; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 07:15:32 -0500 Received: from mailhost.onramp.net (mailhost.onramp.net [199.1.11.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19097; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 07:15:16 -0500 From: Received: from compugen.net (host11.compugen.net [206.50.105.12]) by mailhost.onramp.net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA23881 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 06:15:09 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199612021215.GAA23881@mailhost.onramp.net> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 06:15:39 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Just in time for Christmas!!! 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Is there a FAQ of all posts for TP 560? Else could some kind soul email those posts to me? Would be too kind. Jayan Patel JayanP1@aol.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 12:57:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA159529435; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 12:57:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20903; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 12:52:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 12:45:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20443; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 12:45:52 -0500 Received: from suntan.tandem.com (suntan.tandem.com [192.216.221.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20436; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 12:45:49 -0500 Received: from adm.loc201.tandem.com by suntan.tandem.com (8.6.12/suntan5.961027) for id JAA01629; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:45:45 -0800 Received: from colobus.loc201.tandem.com (dhcp75-23.loc201.tandem.com) by adm.loc201.tandem.com (4.1/6main.940209) id AA10898; Mon, 2 Dec 96 09:45:30 PST Received: by colobus.loc201.tandem.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBE035.995084A0@colobus.loc201.tandem.com>; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:45:49 -0800 Message-Id: <01BBE035.995084A0@colobus.loc201.tandem.com> From: Chris DiBona To: "'Thinkpad DL'" Subject: Hi.... probably a very old question and maybe a new one. Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:45:42 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello! I have a couple of questions, but first : I have a TP701-cs with 16mb ram, 720 HD. And I was wondering a couple = things: 1.....has anyone had any luck getting the 12mm drive enclosure from IBM = or others? I notice to buy a raw drive is a great deal cheaper than = purchasing an enclosed one.=20 2.....Has anyone dealt with Portable enhancement products in Winchester = Ca? they have a CPU upgrade for the 701cs, and I was thinking about it, = FYI: They offer for $500 to replace the DX4-74 chip with an 5x86-100 = which would appear to almost double the power of the laptop. I wanted to see what = your opinions were, if any, about this upgrade. The $500 includes = replacement of the old chip if you so desire as well, so it seems a = pretty safe bet, but I'd like to know if anyone out there has done it = yet before I plunk down the $500.=20 Thanks! Chris From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 13:30:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA166711404; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:30:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23665; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:26:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:24:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23392; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:23:59 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23381; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:23:55 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id NAA10321; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:25:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:25:12 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Chris DiBona Cc: "'Thinkpad DL'" Subject: Re: Hi.... probably a very old question and maybe a new one. In-Reply-To: <01BBE035.995084A0@colobus.loc201.tandem.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Chris DiBona wrote: > I have a TP701-cs with 16mb ram, 720 HD. And I was wondering a couple things: > > 1.....has anyone had any luck getting the 12mm drive enclosure from > IBM or others? I notice to buy a raw drive is a great deal cheaper > than purchasing an enclosed one. Give up. We've been trying since the TP750 first came out. Nobody has been able to get one for any model. The closest we came was when IBM was closing out their 170MB drives in caddy for ~$60. IBM doesn't even seem to have a part number for just the caddy. I asked a couple of the engineers who work in Thinkpad development and they couldn't help. There are a couple places that manufacture their own caddies for the TP75x line, and at least one place that makes caddies for the 701. Unfortunately, they won't sell you 701 caddy unless you buy their hard drive upgrade (which is not as bad as IBM's prices, but is still way out there). What many of us have done is remove the drive from the original caddy and replace it with a larger drive. I know at least one person on this list has done this with a 701 caddy, so you may be able to get instructions from him. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 13:49:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA170732584; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:49:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25311; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:46:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:44:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25040; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:44:10 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25033; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:44:04 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-j-17.usc.edu [128.125.224.161]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id KAA25255 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 10:42:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961202184238.006ae774@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 10:42:38 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Just in time for Christmas!!! Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 06:15 AM 12/2/96, orders@compugen.net wrote: >Dear Computer User: > >The perfect gift for your family, a friend, or just for yourself. You know, I have no problem with those on the list who want to sell their TP-related items or even someone who pops in to let us know he/she has a TP-related item to sell--clearly, it all applies to subject matter of the list and many of us can or have taken advantage of the deals we can often get from such info. But this very generic "Dear Computer User" ad for keyboards, mice, etc. just plain strikes me as blatant commercialism that I'd rather not see. Am I the only one that feels that way? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 14:08:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA174643727; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:08:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26935; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:05:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:03:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26614; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:03:01 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26608; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:02:58 -0500 Received: from ankle.uplanet.com (host-166-182.uplanet.com [204.163.166.182]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA17624 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:02:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961202110246.006cb1d8@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 11:02:53 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jesse Montrose Subject: spam (was Re: Just in time for Christmas!!!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:42 AM 12/2/96 -0800, Randy wrote [re: selling tp's vs general spam]: > But this very generic "Dear Computer User" ad for keyboards, mice, >etc. just plain strikes me as blatant commercialism that I'd rather not see. > > Am I the only one that feels that way? Nope, I agree completely. Not sure what the solution is, but my feeling is that, apart from the few that really don't understand, spammers are scum, and even the most reasonable, gentle requests to go away will fall on deaf ears. I've given up until I can find a suitable technical solution :) As far as the list goes, there's moderation (I doubt anyone really wants that) and blocking non-subscribers (which I wouldn't be opposed to, but is problematical). From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 14:14:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA176604086; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:14:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27583; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:12:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:10:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27362; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:10:23 -0500 Received: from onyx.southwind.net (abcjr@onyx.southwind.net [204.95.83.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27355; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:10:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (abcjr@localhost) by onyx.southwind.net (8.8.2/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA24005 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:16:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:16:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Arnold B. Cavazos, Jr." To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Just in time for Christmas!!! In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961202184238.006ae774@scf.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I definitely know that you are not the only one that doesn't appreciate the spamming. I wonder what would happen if the list members that don't appreciate this would send a polite request for cessation of spam to 'orders@compugen.net'? Maybe the litter from requests will make them reconsider their moves in the future. I'm glad that sombody spoke up! ---------------------------------------------------------- Arnold Cavazos, Jr. abcjr@southwind.net On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Randy Whittle wrote: > At 06:15 AM 12/2/96, orders@compugen.net wrote: > >Dear Computer User: > > > >The perfect gift for your family, a friend, or just for yourself. > > You know, I have no problem with those on the list who want to sell > their TP-related items or even someone who pops in to let us know he/she has > a TP-related item to sell--clearly, it all applies to subject matter of the > list and many of us can or have taken advantage of the deals we can often > get from such info. > > But this very generic "Dear Computer User" ad for keyboards, mice, > etc. just plain strikes me as blatant commercialism that I'd rather not see. > > Am I the only one that feels that way? > > ------- > Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net > USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle > > Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" > The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle > interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male > psyche--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. > - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 14:21:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA177814502; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:21:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28077; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:15:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:13:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27745; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:13:36 -0500 Received: from tiger.avana.net (tiger.avana.net [205.245.133.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27739; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:13:33 -0500 Received: from littleboy.multisoft.com by tiger.avana.net; (5.65/1.1.8.2/30Apr96-1201PM) id AA27436; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:13:08 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961202191305.00674be0@tiger.avana.net> X-Sender: lrj@tiger.avana.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 14:13:05 -0500 To: Randy Whittle From: Lew Jansen Subject: Re: Just in time for Christmas!!! Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu No Randy, you're not the only one. The command "traceroute" (or "tracert" on some machines) shows that compugen.net, pcorders.com, and computergeneration.com are all on a subnet served by onramp.net I shared my feelings via email to postmaster@onramp.net, as well as the userid "abuse" at the other three machines. I urge others to share their feelings as they see fit. (I would suggest though that these feelings not be shared with the mailing list here, as they'd be rather off-topic.) -- Lew Jansen At 10:42 AM 12/2/96 -0800, Randy Whittle wrote: > But this very generic "Dear Computer User" ad for keyboards, mice, >etc. just plain strikes me as blatant commercialism that I'd rather not see. > Am I the only one that feels that way? >------- >Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net >USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lew Jansen lrj@avana.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 15:36:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA214799000; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:36:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06424; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:33:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:28:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05814; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:28:23 -0500 Received: from gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (root@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu [129.65.26.111]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05770; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:27:39 -0500 From: Received: from [128.115.186.237] (fukatsu-mac.llnl.gov [128.115.186.237]) by gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (8.6.12/ELEE) with SMTP id MAA27829; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 12:26:38 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 12:27:07 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: PCMCIA modules with 2 different kernels? Cc: linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-newbie@vger.rutgers.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am currently running Linux (RedHat 3.0.3) kernel 2.0.25 on my IBM Thinkpad 755CD. I noticed that the pcmcia modules are very sensitive to which kernel loads them: i.e. I have 2 kernels, both 2.0.25, one with apm enabled and one without. I compiled the pcmcia modules while running the kernel with apm and everything works fine during startup. However, when I boot with the kernel without apm, during startup it says "failed to load modules. symbols from linux 2.0.25 don't match your linux 2.0.25..." or something to that effect. Basicly it seems like you can only use PCMCIA with the kernel you compiled it with. If someone knows a work around, I'd love to hear it! Now, I know, why two kernels? Well the Thinkpad needs to boot DOS first in order to load the proper drivers into the soundcard. I then use loadlin to boot linux. But loadlin will only work if the apm is disabled. Hence the need for this kernel. If I don't care for sound, I use lilo to boot the kernel with apm. Thanks! -Mike From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 16:22:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA225651733; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:22:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11289; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:16:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:13:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10839; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:13:24 -0500 Received: from cimweb.cimtek.on.ca (cimweb.cimtek.on.ca [199.198.216.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10828; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:13:19 -0500 Received: from egan.cimtek.on.ca (egan.cimtek.on.ca [199.198.216.2]) by cimweb.cimtek.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA08370 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:51:20 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0b36.32.19961202161404.006e2d50@mail.cimtek.on.ca> X-Sender: jfe@mail.cimtek.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b36 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 16:14:05 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "James F. Egan" Subject: Dock II with ISA card and 2nd IDE drive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I have a TP 760C with a 1.08 gb drive, a dock II with an ethernet card, scsi drive and scsi cdr. I wanted to be able to produce cd's with this combination, so I purchased another 1.08gb drive and drive holder for the multibay. When I installed this, it takes over the irq15, which the ethernet card had allocated, so I changed the irq on the ethernet to 9. WITHOUT enabling the drive in the multibay, everything works. WITH the drive enabled in the multibay, the drive works but not if the dock is connected. The machine will not run properly if connected to the dock with the 2nd drive. Does anyone recall anything about the irq 15 with respect to the dock? Any solutions? I am not using any pcmcia cards in this configuration to avoid irq 15 problems, as stated in the manual. Other info that may be useful: I cannot get windows to recognize the drive as other than 'removable'. If the drive is 'removable', my cdr software will not copy from it. Any help would be appreciated. -------------------------------------------------------- __ James F. Egan ---- Internet: jfe@cimtek.on.ca -CIMTEK- IBMMAIL: i1189482@IBMMAIL.COM ------------ Voice: (905)847-8811 x11 Automation Systems Ltd From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 16:25:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA227021923; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:25:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11979; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:21:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:19:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11619; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:19:36 -0500 Received: from ig.cs.utk.edu (IG.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.149]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11612; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:19:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by ig.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id QAA23577; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:19:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612022119.QAA23577@ig.cs.utk.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ADMIN: does someone want to take over this list? Cc: moore@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: moore@cs.utk.edu From: Keith Moore Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 16:19:28 -0500 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've been maintaining the thinkpad list for awhile now. It doesn't take up too much of my time, but occasionally I get asked for changes, enhancements, etc. Some of the requests are worthwhile. Unfortunately, I don't have much time to devote to them. Also, since my thinkpad 750 runs NetBSD, most of the traffic on the list isn't very relevant for things I want to do. So I don't get much benefit from it. So if someone wants to take over the list, let me know by private email and we'll discuss it. Keith Moore From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 18:50:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA271120648; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 18:50:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26578; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 18:45:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 18:41:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAB26078; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 18:41:03 -0500 Received: from suntan.tandem.com (suntan.tandem.com [192.216.221.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26055; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 18:40:50 -0500 Received: from adm.loc201.tandem.com by suntan.tandem.com (8.6.12/suntan5.961027) for id PAA22324; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:40:43 -0800 Received: from colobus.loc201.tandem.com (dhcp75-23.loc201.tandem.com) by adm.loc201.tandem.com (4.1/6main.940209) id AA01483; Mon, 2 Dec 96 15:40:28 PST Received: by colobus.loc201.tandem.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBE067.1FA6D0A0@colobus.loc201.tandem.com>; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:40:20 -0800 Message-Id: <01BBE067.1FA6D0A0@colobus.loc201.tandem.com> From: Chris DiBona To: "'Thinkpad DL'" Subject: Hi again.... caddie question round 2 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:40:18 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Okay, here's a question for you again: is the caddie for the 750 and the 701 the same size? I don't believe that they are, but if they are, I'd love to know it. Chris From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 20:17:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA288065822; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:17:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04699; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:12:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:07:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04098; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:07:37 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04091; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:07:28 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id UAA11955; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:08:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:08:19 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Chris DiBona Cc: "'Thinkpad DL'" Subject: Re: Hi again.... caddie question round 2 In-Reply-To: <01BBE067.1FA6D0A0@colobus.loc201.tandem.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Chris DiBona wrote: > is the caddie for the 750 and the 701 the same size? I don't believe > that they are, but if they are, I'd love to know it. They're very different. My point was that AFAIK IBM has been unwilling to sell *any* caddies. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 22:37:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA008144273; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 22:37:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07842; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:32:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:30:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07526; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:30:14 -0500 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07507; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:30:11 -0500 From: Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA17296; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:29:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:29:38 -0500 Message-Id: <961202202937_1918546330@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: chrisd@loc201.tandem.com Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hi again.... caddie question round 2 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Chris, The Caddies for the TP755 and TP701 are two completely different Caddies. We recently developed a Caddy for the TP701. If you would like any other information, please contact me. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: Hi again.... caddie question round 2 Date: 96-12-02 18:45:29 EST From: chrisd@loc201.tandem.com (Chris DiBona) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu ('Thinkpad DL') Okay, here's a question for you again: is the caddie for the 750 and the 701 the same size? I don't believe that they are, but if they are, I'd love to know it. Chris From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 2 23:35:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA016437748; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 23:35:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23604; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 23:31:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 23:27:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23282; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 23:27:26 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23261; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 23:27:18 -0500 From: Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id EAA157637 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 04:27:14 GMT Received: from slip166-72-214-66.ca.us.ibm.net(166.72.214.66) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaen0DFW; Tue Dec 3 04:27:00 1996 Received: by slip166-72-214-66.ca.us.ibm.net (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/2.12um) id AA0114; Mon, 02 Dec 96 20:29:05 -0800 Message-Id: <9612030429.AA0114@slip166-72-214-66.ca.us.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 02 Dec 96 20:23:17 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: DX4-74 --> 5x86-100 Conversion Question X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <112_111_1_849576197> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anyone know whatever this conversion invalidates the ThinkPad warranty? > 2.....Has anyone dealt with Portable enhancement products in Winchester Ca? they have a CPU upgrade for the 701cs, and I was thinking about it, FYI: They offer for $500 to replace the DX4-74 chip with an 5x86-100 which would > appear to almost double the power of the laptop. I wanted to see what your opinions were, if any, about this upgrade. The $500 includes replacement of the old chip if you so desire as well, so it seems a pretty safe bet, but I'd like to know if anyone out there has done it yet before I plunk down the $500. > ||-----------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || "It never hurts to suck up to the boss."|| || 33rd Ferengi Rule of Acquisition || ||-----------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 3 01:02:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA024932953; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 01:02:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29523; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:50:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:40:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28873; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:39:58 -0500 Received: from hyper.stanford.edu (hyper.Stanford.EDU [171.65.16.124]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28862; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:39:43 -0500 Received: (from dhinds@localhost) by hyper.stanford.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.6) id VAA12162; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 21:38:09 -0800 From: David Hinds Message-Id: <199612030538.VAA12162@hyper.stanford.edu> Subject: Re: PCMCIA modules with 2 different kernels? To: mfukatsu@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 21:38:08 -0800 (PST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-newbie@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "mfukatsu@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu" at Dec 2, 96 12:27:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > > I am currently running Linux (RedHat 3.0.3) kernel 2.0.25 on my IBM > Thinkpad 755CD. I noticed that the pcmcia modules are very sensitive to > which kernel loads them: > i.e. I have 2 kernels, both 2.0.25, one with apm enabled and one without. > > I compiled the pcmcia modules while running the kernel with apm and > everything works fine during startup. However, when I boot with the kernel > without apm, during startup it says "failed to load modules. symbols from > linux 2.0.25 don't match your linux 2.0.25..." or something to that > effect. Basicly it seems like you can only use PCMCIA with the kernel you > compiled it with. > > If someone knows a work around, I'd love to hear it! Well, one somewhat-unsatisfactory workaround would be to compile the PCMCIA modules with APM support disabled. If you compile them with APM support turned on, they will expect a kernel that provides the APM calls. But the APM-disabled modules will work on either kernel. -- Dave Hinds dhinds@hyper.stanford.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 3 01:37:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA028355067; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 01:37:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01765; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 01:32:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 3 Dec 1996 01:29:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01510; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 01:29:00 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01498; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 01:28:51 -0500 Received: from cartan.hawaii.edu (cartan.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA17125; Mon, 2 Dec 96 20:27:28 HST Received: by cartan.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA01345; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:28:24 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199612030628.UAA01345@cartan.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: DX4-74 --> 5x86-100 Conversion Question To: laniear@ibm.net Date: Mon, 2 Dec 96 20:28:22 HST Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9612030429.AA0114@slip166-72-214-66.ca.us.ibm.net>; from "laniear@ibm.net" at Dec 2, 96 8:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > FYI: They [PEP] offer for $500 to > replace the DX4-74 chip with an 5x86-100 which would > > appear to almost double the power of the laptop. Pasting the label "vroom vroom!" above the keyboard would also appear to almost double the power of the laptop, at least until you tried to do anything with it. If PEP or anyone else is seriously claiming that the new chip will double the speed, they should be willing to back it up with some sort of evidence, or maybe a money-back guarantee:-) - David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 3 02:57:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA037389853; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 02:57:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06291; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 02:55:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 3 Dec 1996 02:52:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05984; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 02:52:34 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05968; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 02:52:31 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA23701; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 02:45:13 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199612030745.CAA23701@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: PCMCIA modules with 2 different kernels? In-Reply-To: <199612030538.VAA12162@hyper.stanford.edu> from David Hinds at "Dec 2, 96 09:38:08 pm" To: dhinds@hyper.stanford.edu (David Hinds) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 02:45:13 -0500 (EST) Cc: mfukatsu@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-newbie@vger.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > I compiled the pcmcia modules while running the kernel with apm and > > everything works fine during startup. However, when I boot with the kernel > > without apm, during startup it says "failed to load modules. symbols from > > linux 2.0.25 don't match your linux 2.0.25..." or something to that > > effect. Basicly it seems like you can only use PCMCIA with the kernel you > > compiled it with. > > > Well, one somewhat-unsatisfactory workaround would be to compile the > PCMCIA modules with APM support disabled. If you compile them with > APM support turned on, they will expect a kernel that provides the APM > calls. But the APM-disabled modules will work on either kernel. Three additional solutions: 1. use different kernel revisions (2.0.23 and 2.0.24 just as stable as 2.0.25 and are virtually identical). Modules are stored by kernel revisions. 2. recompile one of your kernels without module support. I would suggest the non-APM one. 3. use identical kernels for both configs, but use the APM interface to disable/extend the parameters for the docked config. There is an old APMD that you can probably use. I use mine to tune parameters and suspend my TP750C. Regards, Dave. > > -- Dave Hinds > dhinds@hyper.stanford.edu > -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 3 05:18:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA049458283; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:18:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA19107; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:17:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:13:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA18345; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:13:04 -0500 Received: from hoopla.mrl.nyu.edu (HOOPLA.MRL.NYU.EDU [128.122.47.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA18339; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:13:01 -0500 Received: (from news@localhost) by hoopla.mrl.nyu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id FAA08931; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:20:18 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: news From: David Fox Newsgroups: thinkpad Subject: Re: DX4-74 --> 5x86-100 Conversion Question Date: 03 Dec 1996 05:20:18 -0500 Organization: NYU Media Research Lab. Lines: 19 Message-Id: References: <199612030628.UAA01345@cartan.hawaii.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: hoopla.mrl.nyu.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) writes: > ] FYI: They [PEP] offer for $500 to > ] replace the DX4-74 chip with an 5x86-100 which would > ] > appear to almost double the power of the laptop. > > Pasting the label "vroom vroom!" above the keyboard would also > appear to almost double the power of the laptop, at least until you > tried to do anything with it. If PEP or anyone else is seriously > claiming that the new chip will double the speed, they should be > willing to back it up with some sort of evidence, or maybe a > money-back guarantee:-) Wouldn't that be AMD's responsibility? I'm interested in hearing opinions of how big the improvement is likely to be - you sound pretty skeptical. What about for real 32 bit operating systems like Linux? -- David Fox http://www.cat.nyu.edu/fox xoF divaD NYU Media Research Lab fox@cat.nyu.edu baL hcraeseR aideM UYN From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 3 07:51:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA062137485; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:51:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02485; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:50:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:47:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02269; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:47:03 -0500 Received: from unix.asb.com (root@unix.asb.com [165.254.128.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02263; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:47:00 -0500 Received: from sls15.asb.com (sls15.asb.com [165.254.128.25]) by unix.asb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA11050 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 08:06:26 -0500 From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Just in time for Christmas!!! Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 12:42:59 GMT Message-Id: <32a47df6.2151293@unix.asb.com> References: <2.2.32.19961202184238.006ae774@scf.usc.edu> In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961202184238.006ae774@scf.usc.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.335 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 02 Dec 1996 10:42:38 -0800, you wrote: >At 06:15 AM 12/2/96, orders@compugen.net wrote: >>Dear Computer User: >> >>The perfect gift for your family, a friend, or just for yourself. > > You know, I have no problem with those on the list who want to sell >their TP-related items or even someone who pops in to let us know he/she has >a TP-related item to sell--clearly, it all applies to subject matter of the >list and many of us can or have taken advantage of the deals we can often >get from such info. > > But this very generic "Dear Computer User" ad for keyboards, mice, >etc. just plain strikes me as blatant commercialism that I'd rather not see. > > Am I the only one that feels that way? > I usually visit news.announce.newusers and grab the _advertising_on_usenet or how_to_find_where_to_post faq (both of which are 450-500 lines) and helpfully email it to the misquided twit who obviously news a clue at least that big. 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I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 3 16:36:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA158108982; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 16:36:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16715; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 16:28:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 3 Dec 1996 16:21:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16035; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 16:21:02 -0500 Received: from atlas.corp.mei.com (atlas.mis.mei.com [151.186.47.172]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16028; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 16:20:57 -0500 Received: from nickdo.mis.mei.com (nickdo.mis.mei.com [151.186.47.91]) by atlas.corp.mei.com (NTMail 3.02.10) with ESMTP id da003565 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 15:21:16 -0600 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Nick Rushizky" Organization: Marquette Medical Systems To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 15:21:14 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Win95 problem Reply-To: Nick@atlas.mis.mei.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-Id: <21211682800730@corp.mei.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu OK, I know that this is not really a Thinkpad question per se, but all my other resources that I've tried so far have failed, so I'll try this list. I've a 760E running 95 (actually on of my users) and he has an NT 4 desktop. Long ago, he deleted the Briefcase from his 95 desktop. Now, he's discovered that NT 4 has the Briefcase as well, and has decided that it's a good idea. Both are on the network. He could just share files but I'm not sure that he gets that concept. What I want to do is recreate the 95 Briefcase. The file is not found doing a search on the PC, and it's long gone from the garbage can. Any ideas? Nick Rushizky ---> nick@atlas.mis.mei.com Marquette Medical Systems PC Support Help Desk All opinions are my fault only. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 3 17:06:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA163180763; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:06:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20134; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:02:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:00:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19940; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:00:31 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19919; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:00:23 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08977; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:48:55 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961203144637.006c0db8@aspen.wwsi.com> X-Sender: ssh@aspen.wwsi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 14:46:40 -0700 To: Nick@atlas.mis.mei.com From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: Win95 problem Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 03:21 PM 12/3/96 +0000, you wrote: >that it's a good idea. Both are on the network. He could just share >files but I'm not sure that he gets that concept. Actually, the Briefcase adds some interesting capabilities to file sharing. >What I want to do is recreate the 95 Briefcase. The file is not found >doing a search on the PC, and it's long gone from the garbage can. >Any ideas? Does it show up in Explorer? It should be at the bottom. If it's not, look for the folder in \windows\desktop\ (note "Desktop" is a hidden directory). ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Systems, Network, Internet, and Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 3 17:57:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA173553836; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:57:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25077; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:53:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:50:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24774; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:50:23 -0500 Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (root@proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24751; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:50:17 -0500 Received: from tph.vip.best.com (tph.vip.best.com [206.86.94.173]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00613; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:40:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <32A4AC8B.2C6F@best.com> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 14:41:15 -0800 From: Terry Haggin Organization: UC Berkeley English X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Cc: tph@best.com Subject: Thinkpad 350 ?'s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have had a 350c for about 3 years and really like it. It is a little slow but works great. Is it possible to upgrade the chip? Also do I have to change the BIOS to put a 1 gig hd? Where do I get a faq on this model? And is there anyone on this group that knows about how much memory this model will take, right now I have the original 4 mg chip with an added 16 mg's. Would it be worth it to put a 32 mg chip in it to speed things up or is the original chip too slow to make a diffference? Also the hinges on the screen are getting a little loose and has anyone gotten them tight again or do I have to send it in to the shop at a big buck price? Lastly, I am thinking on purchasing a 28.8 PMCIA modem, will this model support anything over 9600 baud? Thanks, terry haggin From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 3 21:31:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA218906660; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:31:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11971; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:29:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:25:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11518; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:25:25 -0500 Received: from mail.wwi.net (mail.wwi.net [204.153.64.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11510; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:25:22 -0500 Received: from wwi.wwi.nwt (ts1-p28.wwi.net [204.153.64.129]) by mail.wwi.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11466) with SMTP id AAA211 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 20:13:13 -0600 Message-Id: <32A4E114.626E@wwi.net> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 20:25:24 -0600 From: laffer@wwi.net (Larry Shepard) Reply-To: laffer@wwi.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Win95/DirectX/Thinkpad 760CD References: <3.0.32.19961203144637.006c0db8@aspen.wwsi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Recently tried installing DirectX in my laptop, the install seemed to go fine, but when running any software the screen appears to go blank and lock the notebook up. Anyone with any ideas? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 3 22:15:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA223099332; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:15:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14582; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:57:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:56:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14297; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:56:02 -0500 Received: from netcom4.netcom.com (cummings@netcom4.netcom.com [192.100.81.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14288; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:55:56 -0500 Received: (from cummings@localhost) by netcom4.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id VAA13502; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:55:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:55:36 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Cummings X-Sender: cummings@netcom4 To: Steve Hultquist Cc: Nick@atlas.mis.mei.com, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Win95 problem In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961203144637.006c0db8@aspen.wwsi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Steve Hultquist wrote: > At 03:21 PM 12/3/96 +0000, you wrote: > >that it's a good idea. Both are on the network. He could just share > >files but I'm not sure that he gets that concept. > > Actually, the Briefcase adds some interesting capabilities to file sharing. > > >What I want to do is recreate the 95 Briefcase. The file is not found > >doing a search on the PC, and it's long gone from the garbage can. > >Any ideas? > > Does it show up in Explorer? It should be at the bottom. If it's not, > look for the folder in \windows\desktop\ (note "Desktop" is a hidden > directory). > And if that dos not work, just reinstall it from control panel/add-delete programs. You will need the cd or disks (or shared cd/disk on the network). ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Cummings at home, feet up in | Washington, DC... Columbia, MD. Internet cummings@netcom.com | "A Radio Wasteland"... -------------------------------------------|---------------------------- Novell CNA/Pyramid OSx Systems Admin. |My other op-system is Linux! ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 3 22:50:38 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA226701437; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:50:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19154; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:49:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:45:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18761; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:45:25 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18725; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:45:13 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA13133; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:44:39 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199612040344.WAA13133@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Win95/DirectX/Thinkpad 760CD To: laffer@wwi.net Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:44:38 -0500 (EST) Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <32A4E114.626E@wwi.net> from "Larry Shepard" at Dec 3, 96 08:25:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Recently tried installing DirectX in my laptop, the install seemed to go > fine, but when running any software the screen appears to go blank and > lock the notebook up. Anyone with any ideas? I recently installed DirectX on my 760C as part of the Command&Conquer "Red Alert" game. The release notes suggested that some video drivers are not completely DirectX compatible, and the game provides a couple of configuration options to work around driver problems. I found I had to tweak one of these options to get the game to run properly for me (on an external monitor, anyway -- I haven't actually tried it on the LCD yet). This is with the most recent version of the ThinkPad Win95 video drivers from IBM's web site. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 01:38:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA244701504; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:38:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01494; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:36:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:29:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00938; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:29:43 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00932; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:29:38 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA11070; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 23:18:15 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961203224050.006a76ac@aspen.wwsi.com> X-Sender: ssh@aspen.wwsi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 23:15:59 -0700 To: Michael Cummings From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: Win95 problem Cc: Nick@atlas.mis.mei.com, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 09:55 PM 12/3/96 -0500, Michael Cummings wrote: >On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Steve Hultquist wrote: > >> At 03:21 PM 12/3/96 +0000, you wrote: >> >that it's a good idea. Both are on the network. He could just share >> >files but I'm not sure that he gets that concept. >> >> Actually, the Briefcase adds some interesting capabilities to file sharing. >> >> >What I want to do is recreate the 95 Briefcase. The file is not found >> >doing a search on the PC, and it's long gone from the garbage can. >> >Any ideas? >> >> Does it show up in Explorer? It should be at the bottom. If it's not, >> look for the folder in \windows\desktop\ (note "Desktop" is a hidden >> directory). >> >And if that dos not work, just reinstall it from control panel/add-delete >programs. You will need the cd or disks (or shared cd/disk on the network). > Actually, that's what I remembered, too, but I couldn't find it when I went looking in the Windows Setup section of Add/Delete Programs. Can you find it? ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Systems, Network, Internet, and Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 11:27:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA004086837; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:27:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11148; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:24:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:06:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09065; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:06:01 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09035; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:05:47 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-5 #9830) id <01ICLTUO0QIOATLW19@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:05:00 MST Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 08:47:13 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: DX4-74 --> 5x86-100 Conversion Question In-Reply-To: "Your message dated Mon, 02 Dec 1996 20:23:17 -0800" <9612030429.AA0114@slip166-72-214-66.ca.us.ibm.net> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01ICLUNWCZP6ATLW19@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Anyone know whatever this conversion invalidates the ThinkPad warranty? I'd be surprized if it didn't. But they could always solder in the old chip again - if done properly and the board is cleaned afterwards it'd be pretty hard to tell it was ever out. Since they include this in the deal you should be fairly safe. A bigger risk would be you send it in to IBM for something like a keyboard repair and IBM swaps out the board with the cpu on it for whatever reason too - then you're back to the stock chip. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 11:35:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA005377297; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:34:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12223; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:32:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:30:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11807; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:30:05 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11770; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:29:59 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-h-55.usc.edu [128.125.224.55]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id IAA28952; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 08:22:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961204162226.006aaeb8@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 08:22:26 -0800 To: Steve Hultquist From: Randy Whittle Subject: Win95 Briefcase Cc: Michael Cummings , Nick@atlas.mis.mei.com, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:15 PM 12/3/96 -0700, Steve Hultquist wrote: >>> >What I want to do is recreate the 95 Briefcase. The file is not found >>> >doing a search on the PC, and it's long gone from the garbage can. >>> >Any ideas? >Actually, that's what I remembered, too, but I couldn't find it when I went >looking in the Windows Setup section of Add/Delete Programs. Can you find it? Guys, the "briefcase" isn't some mythical thing that is gone forever when you dump it. In fact, you can create and maintain many different briefcases if you like! Just right-click on the desktop, from the pop-up menu select "New", and then "Briefcase". Name it whatever you want. Bingo. Put whatever you want in it from the other computer (via network link or whatever) and you're set to go. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 14:36:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA032588174; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:36:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27146; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:27:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:24:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26806; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:24:03 -0500 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26799; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:23:53 -0500 Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (actually rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:11:12 +0100 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BBE20E.7C22DE20@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:10:52 +0100 Message-Id: <01BBE20E.7C22DE20@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: Axel Hartmann To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: IR-drivers, was RE: experiences w/ us-thinkpad in germany/europe Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:06:26 +0100 Encoding: 55 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I was wondering what operating system or software you > are using to test IR port. > > Thanks, > Mitchell i'm using windows95. as far as i recall, it recognized the IR-port even without any specific drivers. now, i'm using a bunch of updates from microsoft. i'm not quite sure which of these are actually active; i think it's IRDA 2.0.... i also have the IR_Networking driver installed, but it is always crossed out in the device manager; maybe it conflicts with the IRDA, i don't know. the drivers are on microsoft's web-site. what happens: i put the thinkpad in front of the printer, go into ControlPanel, and open the IR-Control Panel. this starts a polling of the IR-port. with the printer there, win95 detects new hardware/printer, and asks to install it. since i don't have the install files on my hard drive, i used the installed HP LaserJet III drivers. win95 asks to print a test page, and lo and behold, "the IR beams from my thinkpad are bundled by the printer's lens and burn the image on the paper". btw, does anyone know if WinNT supports IR, and where to get a _cheap_ serial-port (or ethernet) IR-port? axel "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." > >Subject: experiences w/ us-thinkpad in germany/europe >Author: Axel Hartmann at Internet >Date: 11/30/96 1:19 AM >[...] >i finally got to test the IR-interface! a friend has the >new HP-LaserJet 6 (not released in the US yet, i believe). >it works! magic! fast! wow! (LJ-III drivers work, btw) >i will actually be beaming my thesis! since the printer doesn't >speak, i won't be renaming the 'pad scotty, though. > ....................................................................... . Axel Hartmann . . Paper : Blumenstr. 15; 76133 Karlsruhe; Germany . Voice : [0|xx49] 721 - 27115 . . E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . ....................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 15:17:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA038220631; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:17:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01154; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:08:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:06:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00916; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:06:43 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00850; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:06:24 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA21682; Wed, 4 Dec 96 10:05:49 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA09794; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:06:10 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199612042006.KAA09794@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: DX4-74 --> 5x86-100 Conversion Question To: fox@cat.nyu.edu (David Fox) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 96 10:06:07 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "David Fox" at Dec 3, 96 5:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu With respect to claimed speed improvements if the 701 chip is replaced with a 5x86, I wrote: > > If PEP or anyone else is seriously > > claiming that the new chip will double the speed, they should be > > willing to back it up with some sort of evidence, or maybe a > > money-back guarantee:-) David Fox replied: > Wouldn't that be AMD's responsibility? I'm interested in hearing > opinions of how big the improvement is likely to be - you sound pretty > skeptical. Neither AMD nor Cyrix (I don't know which chip PEP uses) make claims about *systemic* speed improvements; this is very difficult, since system speed is also a function of bus, cache, and BIOS (not to mention video and drive - both relatively fast on the 701, by the way). This is a common topic of discussion on several Usenet groups. Despite my skepticism, I plan to replace the DX2-66 on my home desktop machine with one of these chips - it is clear that the bottleneck on *that* machine is the CPU, and anyway for $40-$50 it is worth a shot. However, on the 701 the bus and lack of cache seem to be real problems: for example, on most systemic benchmarks it runs much slower than my home machine (though the disk and video are comparable). I'd be really surprised to see more than a marginal improvement in speed from the upgrade, certainly not enough to warrant the cost (much more than the $50 the chip itself costs!) - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 17:03:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA056516983; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:03:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05089; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:41:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:36:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04460; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:36:29 -0500 Received: from tiger.avana.net (tiger.avana.net [205.245.133.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04192; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:34:48 -0500 Received: from littleboy.multisoft.com by tiger.avana.net; (5.65/1.1.8.2/30Apr96-1201PM) id AA16262; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:33:12 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961204203259.006959f8@tiger.avana.net> X-Sender: lrj@tiger.avana.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 15:32:59 -0500 To: Randy Whittle From: Lew Jansen Subject: Re: Win95 Briefcase (NON-TP Specific!) Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yah, the Briefcase is very nice -- I can even update files sync'd from the WinNT server (3.51) at work when dialed into my ISP. It isn't fast, but is nice when I'm at a client site (as opposed to being on the LAN when I'm in the main office). However, I have a couple problems/questions that I'm hoping someone can answer: (1) Why is it that when I create a new file in a folder in the Briefcase, it has to be an old-style 8.3 name in order to get sync'd to the server if I do an update when dialed to my ISP? Long filenames work fine when on the office LAN. The NT server is using NTFS. (2) How do I remove files from the Briefcase without having to split them from the originals before deleting them? If I just delete a file in the briefcase, the next update wants to delete it from the server. Is there an easier way than having to split it from the original before deleting? (this is with files/folders at the top level of the briefcase) Thanks. Sorry this is not thinkpad-specific. -- Lew Jansen At 08:22 AM 12/4/96 -0800, Randy Whittle wrote: > Put whatever you want in [the Briefcase] from the other computer (via network >link or whatever) and you're set to go. > >------- >Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net >USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lew Jansen lrj@avana.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 17:11:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA058097481; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:11:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14530; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:07:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:04:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14029; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:04:09 -0500 Received: from suntan.tandem.com (suntan.tandem.com [192.216.221.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14023; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:04:01 -0500 Received: from adm.loc201.tandem.com by suntan.tandem.com (8.6.12/suntan5.961027) id OAA02637; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:03:52 -0800 Received: from colobus.loc201.tandem.com (dhcp75-23.loc201.tandem.com) by adm.loc201.tandem.com (4.1/6main.940209) id AA09458; Wed, 4 Dec 96 14:03:50 PST Received: by colobus.loc201.tandem.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBE1EB.F6B45C40@colobus.loc201.tandem.com>; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:03:45 -0800 Message-Id: <01BBE1EB.F6B45C40@colobus.loc201.tandem.com> From: Chris DiBona To: "'David Ross'" , "'Thinkpad DL'" Subject: RE: DX4-74 --> 5x86-100 Conversion Question Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:03:43 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I appreciate all the input from the group regarding the 5x86 upgrade = question. I was wondering if David Ross could post his impressions on = the speed differences with the new chip on his desktop machine.=20 Chris ---------- From: David Ross[SMTP:ross@math.hawaii.edu] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 1996 2:06 AM To: David Fox Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: DX4-74 --> 5x86-100 Conversion Question With respect to claimed speed improvements if the 701 chip is replaced with a 5x86, I wrote: > > If PEP or anyone else is seriously > > claiming that the new chip will double the speed, they should be > > willing to back it up with some sort of evidence, or maybe a > > money-back guarantee:-) David Fox replied: > Wouldn't that be AMD's responsibility? I'm interested in hearing > opinions of how big the improvement is likely to be - you sound pretty > skeptical. Neither AMD nor Cyrix (I don't know which chip PEP uses) make claims about *systemic* speed improvements; this is very difficult, since system speed is also a function of bus, cache, and BIOS (not to mention video and drive - both relatively fast on the 701, by the way). This is a common topic of discussion on several Usenet groups. Despite my skepticism, I plan to replace the DX2-66 on my home desktop machine with one of these chips - it is clear that the bottleneck on *that* machine is the CPU, and anyway for $40-$50 it is worth a shot. However, on the 701 the bus and lack of cache seem to be real problems: for example, on most systemic benchmarks it runs much slower than my home machine (though the disk and video are comparable). I'd be really surprised to see more than a marginal improvement in speed from the upgrade, certainly not enough to warrant the cost (much more than the $50 the chip itself costs!) - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 18:56:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA074123779; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:56:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23381; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:53:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:52:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23201; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:52:14 -0500 Received: from netcom20.netcom.com (cummings@netcom20.netcom.com [192.100.81.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23191; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:52:11 -0500 Received: (from cummings@localhost) by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id SAA09086; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:52:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:52:02 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Cummings X-Sender: cummings@netcom20 To: Steve Hultquist Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Win95 problem In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961203224050.006a76ac@aspen.wwsi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well I "thought it was there" Oppps.. Take foot, insert in mouth for all the world to see..... Randy Whittle explained it correctly in a prior e-mail today.. On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Steve Hultquist wrote: > > Actually, that's what I remembered, too, but I couldn't find it when I went > looking in the Windows Setup section of Add/Delete Programs. Can you find it? > ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Cummings at home, feet up in | Washington, DC... Columbia, MD. Internet cummings@netcom.com | "A Radio Wasteland"... -------------------------------------------|---------------------------- Novell CNA/Pyramid OSx Systems Admin. |My other op-system is Linux! ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 18:56:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA074333813; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:56:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23386; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:54:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:50:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23064; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:50:37 -0500 Received: from mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.143]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23049; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:50:34 -0500 Received: from tp560 (dialup-11-10.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.36.246]) by mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id SAA14569 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:50:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <32A60E30.4A11@columbia.edu> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 18:50:08 -0500 From: Eric Wong Reply-To: etw3@columbia.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad keyboard/mouse connector Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What an amazing hassle it was to get a keyboard attached to my Thinkpad. The manual states that I need a special "keyboard/mouse connector" to accomplish this. It appears that not only is this item extremely difficult to find, but at least one place I talked to wanted $42.99 for it. Ridiculous!! Well for all of you who are in the same boat I was in, here is a solution. Belkin Components in Comptom, CA actually make an equivalent component for a much more reasonable price. I am using it now and it works great! Just thought I passed the word. Regards...Eric Wong. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 19:28:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA078455715; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:28:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26209; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:26:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:23:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25914; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:23:57 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25769; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:20:41 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA22892; Wed, 4 Dec 96 14:18:02 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA09969; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:18:23 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199612050018.OAA09969@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: RE: DX4-74 --> 5x86-100 Conversion Question To: chrisd@loc201.tandem.com (Chris DiBona) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 96 14:18:22 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, "'Thinkpad, DL'"@math.hawaii.edu, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <01BBE1EB.F6B45C40@colobus.loc201.tandem.com>; from "Chris DiBona" at Dec 4, 96 2:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > question. I was wondering if David Ross could post his impressions on = > the speed differences with the new chip on his desktop machine.=20 Will do (though this could be several weeks); meanwhile, anyone interested in this question should take a look at the Usenet group comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, where this is a frequent topic of conversation. - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 19:37:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA079706235; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:37:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26922; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:33:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:32:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26766; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:32:05 -0500 Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26760; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:32:00 -0500 Received: from poppy.demon.co.uk ([158.152.35.157]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa904059; 5 Dec 96 0:21 GMT From: Peter Goddard To: Axel Hartmann Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: IR-drivers, was RE: experiences w/ us-thinkpad in germany/europe Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 23:21:00 GMT Organization: Poppy Films Message-Id: <32a605a8.1549709@post.demon.co.uk> References: <01BBE20E.7C22DE20@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> In-Reply-To: <01BBE20E.7C22DE20@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:06:26 +0100, you wrote: Sorry I have no experience with IR on Tpad (I've never used the feature) but I seem to recall that NT4 does not support it. I do know that Adaptec came out with a small IR box that connected to a serial port. This was about 6 months ago, can't remember the name now but it was about 140 UK ie: 140 US. Is that cheap or expensive? Good Luck pete >btw, does anyone know if WinNT supports IR, and where >to get a _cheap_ serial-port (or ethernet) IR-port? > >axel > >"Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." > >> >>Subject: experiences w/ us-thinkpad in germany/europe >>Author: Axel Hartmann at Internet >>Date: 11/30/96 1:19 AM >>[...] >>i finally got to test the IR-interface! a friend has the >>new HP-LaserJet 6 (not released in the US yet, i believe). >>it works! magic! fast! wow! (LJ-III drivers work, btw) >>i will actually be beaming my thesis! since the printer doesn't >>speak, i won't be renaming the 'pad scotty, though. >> > > >....................................................................... >. Axel Hartmann . >. Paper : Blumenstr. 15; 76133 Karlsruhe; Germany >. Voice : [0|xx49] 721 - 27115 . >. E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . >. Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . >....................................................................... > -- "All good quotes eventually | pete@poppy.demon.co.uk appear in Newsgroups" | or pete@poppyfilms.co.uk From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 19:42:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA080896523; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:42:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27445; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:38:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:36:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27248; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:36:50 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27180; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:36:12 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA11849; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:29:13 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199612050029.TAA11849@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: Thinkpad keyboard/mouse connector In-Reply-To: <32A60E30.4A11@columbia.edu> from Eric Wong at "Dec 4, 96 06:50:08 pm" To: etw3@columbia.edu Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:29:13 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > What an amazing hassle it was to get a keyboard attached to my > Thinkpad. The manual states that I need a special "keyboard/mouse > connector" to accomplish this. It appears that not only is this item > extremely difficult to find, but at least one place I talked to wanted > $42.99 for it. Ridiculous!! I believe the adapter is called a PS/2 keyboard/mouse Y adapter. Saw one at CompUSA for $5 or so. Regards, Dave -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 19:47:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA081336854; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:47:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28402; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:45:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:43:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28118; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:43:42 -0500 Received: from vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us (root@vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us [164.106.215.250]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28108; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:43:37 -0500 Received: from vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us [164.106.215.200]) by vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA00882 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:57:02 -0500 Received: from SERVER1/MAILQ by vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (Mercury 1.21); 4 Dec 96 19:43:44 +1100 Received: from MAILQ by SERVER1 (Mercury 1.21); 4 Dec 96 19:43:36 +1100 From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:43:13 EST Subject: Re: Thinkpad keyboard/mouse connector Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) > Subject: Re: Thinkpad keyboard/mouse connector > To: etw3@columbia.edu > Date sent: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:29:13 -0500 (EST) > Copies to: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > What an amazing hassle it was to get a keyboard attached to my > > Thinkpad. The manual states that I need a special "keyboard/mouse > > connector" to accomplish this. It appears that not only is this item > > extremely difficult to find, but at least one place I talked to wanted > > $42.99 for it. Ridiculous!! > > I believe the adapter is called a PS/2 keyboard/mouse Y adapter. Saw > one at CompUSA for $5 or so. > > Regards, > Dave > > -- > Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the > world rejoiced. Try to live your life > Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, > Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 I wish it was $5 or so at CompUSA. I bought mine there, the belkin model if I remember correctly, a few months ago and it was $29.95. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Business Division Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 20:03:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA083297823; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 20:03:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29863; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 20:01:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:59:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29533; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:59:07 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us (uucp@nvcc.nvc.cc.ca.us [157.22.187.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29525; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:59:04 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67f2/NX3.0M-FZ-1.1) id AA13042; Wed, 4 Dec 96 16:58:20 -0800 Received: by fozztexx.com (NX5.67f2/NX3.0M-FZ-1.1) id AA01971; Wed, 4 Dec 96 16:57:01 -0800 X-Squishy-Bearz: Puffy, Cozy, Wuzz Wuzz, and Pierre X-Url: http://www.fozztexx.com/ From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:56:59 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: etw3@columbia.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad keyboard/mouse connector Cc: "ThinkPad List" In-Reply-To: <32a60e30.4a11@columbia.edu> References: <32a60e30.4a11@columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8cd m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8cd m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Dec. 04 96, 15:50 PST, "Eric Wong" wrote: > What an amazing hassle it was to get a keyboard attached to my > Thinkpad. The manual states that I need a special "keyboard/mouse > connector" to accomplish this. It appears that not only is this > item extremely difficult to find, but at least one place I talked > to wanted $42.99 for it. Ridiculous!! But *why* do you need the adapter? I thought PS/2 ports would happily take either a mouse or a keyboard, and didn't really care. I thought they were a lot like ADB in that regard. If I only want to hook up one or the other, what's the Y adapter needed for? --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College 707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. 707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 22:47:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA100337665; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 22:47:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13798; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 22:45:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 22:41:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13463; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 22:41:46 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13456; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 22:41:42 -0500 Received: from blue (blue.sa.enteract.com [206.54.253.122]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26425; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:41:25 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199612050341.VAA26425@babel.enteract.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Gene J" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, laniear@ibm.net Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:45:35 +0000 Subject: Re: DX4-74 --> 5x86-100 Conversion Question Reply-To: blue@enteract.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Anyone know whatever this conversion invalidates the ThinkPad warranty? > > > 2.....Has anyone dealt with Portable enhancement products in Winchester Ca? they have a > CPU upgrade for the 701cs, and I was thinking about it, FYI: They offer for $500 to > replace the DX4-74 chip with an 5x86-100 which would > > appear to almost double the power of the laptop. I wanted to see what your opinions > were, if any, about this upgrade. The $500 includes replacement of the old chip if you so > desire as well, so it seems a pretty safe bet, but I'd like to know if anyone out there > has done it yet before I plunk down the $500. I'd question whether its worthwhile to spend $500 on a chip upgrade for the following reasons: 1) as it's been said a bunch of times already, the bus and cache on the TP701 sucks - one might "double" their 701's performance with the 5x86, but that would then result in a 701 with the same performance as a good DX4/75 system; 2) ThinkPads will break down, EasyServ is cool for getting ThinkPads fixed fast and for free (if within warranty), and the last thing I'd want is to send my ThinkPad in for a new power or system board and find out that the repair would cost me another $500 because I voided the warranty - maybe an exageration but IBM repairs aren't cheap if you have to pay for them; and 3) if I'm right, the 5x86 doesn't have an FPU, so if you're running math-intensive apps you're performance might be the same or worse than the DX4-75 in the 701. I also think the 5x86 is a clock tripled chip, so the installed chip would be configured to run 25Mhz externally and 75Mhz internally, rather than the full 100Mhz that its designed for. The AMD WWW site has lots of info on 5x86 upgrades. Personally, I may do the upgrade myself when my warranty runs out, I know that I can find someone to do the surface mount soldering and save at least $300. If I'd have to spend $500 on the upgrade, I'd sooner hold on to the $500 and wait for an eventual TP560 liquidation, seems like a better investment. On the other hand, I may just leave my 701 alone and pack it away since it may be one hell of a valuable antique 20 or more years from now. The 701 is a very unique product worth keeping intact. Just my 2 cents... -- Gene http://www.enteract.com/~blue IP #: 206.54.253.122 IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 4 23:50:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA106681411; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:50:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18909; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:49:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:44:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18414; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:44:49 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18395; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:44:43 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-5 #9830) id <01ICML0X99FKATM16R@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:44:21 MST Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 21:41:46 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Thinkpad keyboard/mouse connector In-Reply-To: "Your message dated Wed, 04 Dec 1996 19:43:13 -0500 (EST)" Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01ICML6DLAHKATM16R@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I wish it was $5 or so at CompUSA. I bought mine there, the belkin > model if I remember correctly, a few months ago and it was $29.95. The IBM part was $39.00 two years ago when I got mine... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 5 00:59:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA114795555; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:59:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24264; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:57:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:54:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23925; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:54:51 -0500 Received: from greta.teleport.com (sandra.teleport.com [192.108.254.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23913; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:54:46 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx24-34.teleport.com [206.163.126.106]) by greta.teleport.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26955 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:54:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:54:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612050554.VAA26955@greta.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: DX4-74 --> 5x86-100 Conversion Question Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >> Anyone know whatever this conversion invalidates the ThinkPad warranty? > >I'd be surprized if it didn't. But they could always solder in >the old chip again - if done properly and the board is cleaned >afterwards it'd be pretty hard to tell it was ever out. Since >they include this in the deal you should be fairly safe. > >A bigger risk would be you send it in to IBM for something like >a keyboard repair and IBM swaps out the board with the cpu on >it for whatever reason too - then you're back to the stock chip. > >Billy Y.. > The warranty is the big issue indeed. It's hard to believe that NO One has reported on one of these conversions. . . or called IBM and found out just how much of the warranty would be eliminated, hopefully not all of it... And even if it was just 50% better than 486/75 it still sounds pretty good. Bryan 701C and still happy. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 5 02:05:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA123269505; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 02:05:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27737; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 02:03:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 5 Dec 1996 02:01:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27542; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 02:01:06 -0500 Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (root@proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27536; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 02:01:03 -0500 Received: from tph.vip.best.com (tph.vip.best.com [206.86.94.173]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.8.4/8.8.3) with SMTP id WAA14738; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 22:57:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <32A67286.7297@best.com> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 22:58:14 -0800 From: Terry Haggin Organization: UC Berkeley English X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: tph@best.com Subject: thinkpad 350c from 486/25 t0 486/100? References: <199612050554.VAA26955@greta.teleport.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I believe now that the chip on a 350c is soldered on, but if changing chips is possible on other pads, why not mine. A 486/25 changed to 486/100 is a 4 x speed difference. wow! I would be willing to take a chance on this if it is at all possible and can be done by someone in the sf bay area. let me know, terry From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 5 03:54:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA134826073; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:54:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07437; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:51:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:45:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06477; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:45:29 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06460; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:45:24 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA24087; Wed, 4 Dec 96 22:45:01 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA10335; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 22:45:22 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199612050845.WAA10335@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: thinkpad 350c from 486/25 t0 486/100? To: tph@best.com (Terry Haggin) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 96 22:45:21 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, tph@best.com In-Reply-To: <32A67286.7297@best.com>; from "Terry Haggin" at Dec 4, 96 10:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > A 486/25 changed to 486/100 is a 4 x speed difference. wow! I hate to keep harping on this, but even in the best of circumstances you won't see this kind of speed increase. (However, if possible a switch on your machine to, say, an AMD586-100 is more of a benefit than a similar swap on the 701, since I believe your 486/25 has no internal cache, unlike the cpu on the 701.) - David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 5 04:02:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA135166533; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 04:02:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08471; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:59:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:57:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08291; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:57:56 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08279; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:57:52 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA24125; Wed, 4 Dec 96 22:57:01 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA10362; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 22:57:22 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199612050857.WAA10362@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: DX4-74 --> 5x86-100 Conversion Question To: blue@enteract.com Date: Wed, 4 Dec 96 22:57:20 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, laniear@ibm.net In-Reply-To: <199612050341.VAA26425@babel.enteract.com>; from "Gene J" at Dec 4, 96 9:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I also think the 5x86 is a clock tripled chip, so the installed chip > would be configured to run 25Mhz externally and 75Mhz internally, > rather than the full 100Mhz that its designed for. The AMD WWW site > has lots of info on 5x86 upgrades. The AMD 586 is clock-quadrupled (unlike the corresponding Cyrix, which is only tripled but faster for other reasons, so that the Cy586-100 is roughly comparable to the AMD586-133, both replacements for DX33 chips). > Personally, I may do the upgrade myself when my warranty runs out, I Big mistake! Neither the AMD nor the Cyrix are 100% pin-compatible with the Intel - for example, there's a pin on one of them used to trigger clock-multiplication, not on the other one. Your motherboard needs to recognize the chip, and your BIOS needs to be able to activate features (like the caching, which surely is different from that on the IBM-made 486 in the 701). Now, there *are* tiny boards available for about $125 from several vendors, which contain the 586 chips and somehow make them fully compatible; these are sold for painless upgrades of 486 desktop systems. Possibly one of these can be soldered onto the 701 MB (or a ZIF socket can be soldered on, and one of these boards plugged into *that*), but I don't know if there's room. I expect that the reason the upgrade for the 701c is so expensive is that they incorporate a customized form of one of these boards. - David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 5 16:55:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA221122934; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:55:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28395; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:51:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:37:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26750; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:37:04 -0500 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26743; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:37:01 -0500 Received: from cais3.cais.com (cais3.cais.com [199.0.216.227]) by andrew.cais.com (8.6.9/8.6.9-cais) with SMTP id QAA15454 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:36:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:36:44 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Win NT 4.0 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Just installed NT 4.0 on a TP701CS. The install went ok and was able to run stuff ok. I restarted the system and when asked which system to boot, NT or PCDOS, I selected PCDOS and that ran as usual. When I again rebooted to go back to NT the computer booted directly to PCDOS. So the question is how do I get back to NT. TIA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 5 18:07:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA232577269; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:07:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06139; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:04:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:00:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05234; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:00:38 -0500 Received: from gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (root@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu [129.65.26.111]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05202; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:00:24 -0500 From: Received: from [128.115.186.237] (fukatsu-mac.llnl.gov [128.115.186.237]) by gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (8.6.12/ELEE) with SMTP id OAA23204; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:59:40 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:00:10 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP755CD apm/linux fixed Cc: linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I can now boot my 755CD into linux via loadlin, with a kernel with apm enabled. All it takes is making a config.sys menu with a dos and linux option, and when selecting the linux option, it loads nothing but mwave drivers. This is with PCDOS7.0/win3.1 NOT win95. I don't think this will work for win95 since it seems to play with the emm386 in a stange way. But I forgot how nice it was to be able to listen to a CD while compiling a new kernel.... Question: Is it possible to use the built in microphone in Linux? -Mike From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 6 03:11:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA296609904; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:11:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16912; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:09:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:05:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16244; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:05:18 -0500 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16199; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:05:03 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu (yu1.yu.edu [129.98.200.100]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id DAA24036; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:04:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA73956; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:05:23 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:05:23 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof To: mwave-l@watson.mbb.sfu.ca, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: Pat_Presidente@sd72.bc.ca Subject: Re: Mwave 33.6 and Thinkpads In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19961205205229.006dbd88@access.cn.camriv.bc.ca> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu YES! I just finished doing it on my 755CD. The only tricky part was matching up the right filenames and directories in the mwmwin.ini. I had to expand the files manually since the install program refused to do it since the beta is only supposed to be for dynalink cards. I think I might hack together a batch file over the weekend that will install automatically for people. The mwmodem program with the little modem lights shows that it recognizes it as a 33.6k modem, but so far after two tries I only got 28.8 connections on IBM's internet service which is supposed to have 33.6k modems on their end. On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Pat Presidente wrote: > Does anyone know if the 33.6 mwave driver works with Thinkpads? I have a > TP755 CDV. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 6 03:29:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA298230953; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:29:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19206; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:27:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:25:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18752; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:25:17 -0500 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18746; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:25:15 -0500 Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-5-68.il.us.ibm.net [166.72.5.68]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id DAA24328; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:25:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 03:24:41 -0500 () From: Joshua Hosseinof To: mwave-l@watson.mbb.sfu.ca, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: Pat_Presidente@sd72.bc.ca Subject: Re: Mwave 33.6 and Thinkpads In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Sender: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Actually a correction on that, this third time I got a 31.2k connection so it definitely works. One problem however is that the windows 95 .inf file doesn't list the result codes for 31.2 and 33.6 so the Windows95 dialup networking only knows that the rate is 28.8 but the mwave modem program with the modem lights shows the connection rate as 31.2 (actually it first connected at 28.8 then immediately jumped up to 31.2). On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Joshua Hosseinof wrote: > The mwmodem program with the little modem lights shows that it recognizes > it as a 33.6k modem, but so far after two tries I only got 28.8 > connections on IBM's internet service which is supposed to have 33.6k > modems on their end. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 6 11:09:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA047438547; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:09:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03354; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:07:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:01:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02665; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:01:33 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02548; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:01:16 -0500 Received: from ankle.uplanet.com (capt-58.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.9.186]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28722 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 08:01:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961206080053.00732624@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 08:01:02 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jesse Montrose Subject: 10baseT ethernet/28.8 modem combo for 560? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've heard horror stories.. would love to hear any recommendations.. From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Dec 6 16:54:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA100699276; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:54:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02304; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:01:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:52:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01236; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:52:13 -0500 Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [15.253.72.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01227; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:52:05 -0500 From: Received: from boi118.boi.hp.com (boi118.boi.hp.com [15.56.8.42]) by palrel1.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA08799; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 12:51:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from by boi118.boi.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.4 Openmail) id AA134855560; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 12:52:40 -0800 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 96 12:52:35 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Mwave 33.6 and Thinkpads Mime-Version: 1.0 To: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Cc: mwave-l@watson.mbb.sfu.ca, Pat_Presidente@sd72.bc.ca, thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Where did you get the 33.6 MWave driver? Thanks Richard Hamel -------------------- Hewlett Packard Network Server Division Santa Clara, CA USA 408-553-3247 ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Mwave 33.6 and Thinkpads Author: Non-HP-hosseino (hosseino@yu1.yu.edu) at HP-Boise,mimegw2 Date: 12/5/96 11:05 PM YES! I just finished doing it on my 755CD. The only tricky part was matching up the right filenames and directories in the mwmwin.ini. I had to expand the files manually since the install program refused to do it since the beta is only supposed to be for dynalink cards. I think I might hack together a batch file over the weekend that will install automatically for people. The mwmodem program with the little modem lights shows that it recognizes it as a 33.6k modem, but so far after two tries I only got 28.8 connections on IBM's internet service which is supposed to have 33.6k modems on their end. On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Pat Presidente wrote: > Does anyone know if the 33.6 mwave driver works with Thinkpads? I have a > TP755 CDV. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 6 21:29:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA135865776; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:29:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16105; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:26:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:17:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15379; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:17:26 -0500 Received: from mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.143]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15373; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:17:23 -0500 Received: from tp560 (dialup-22-6.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.47.90]) by mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id VAA11336 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:17:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <32A8D38C.35F7@columbia.edu> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 21:16:44 -0500 From: Eric Wong Reply-To: etw3@columbia.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Fri, 06 Dec 1996 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: 10baseT ethernet/28.8 modem combo for 560? > Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 08:01:02 -0800 > From: Jesse Montrose > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > I've heard horror stories.. would love to hear any recommendations.. I use the 3Com Combo card with my 560. No problems! Actually, using it right now to enter in this message. Eric Wong. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 6 22:29:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA140899372; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:29:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20362; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:26:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:23:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19861; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:23:27 -0500 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19851; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:23:22 -0500 From: Received: from evt-mx1-ip67.halcyon.com by mail1.halcyon.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/10Nov96-0444PM) id AA25222; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 19:22:14 -0800 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961207032218.00665ac0@halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 19:22:18 -0800 To: Jesse Montrose Subject: Re: 10baseT ethernet/28.8 modem combo for 560? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:01 AM 12/6/96 -0800, you wrote: >I've heard horror stories.. would love to hear any recommendations.. > > > Can't speak directly to the 560 but I use a Xircom combo card on a 365X. It has connectors for 10baseT or Tbase2. I use the 10baseT which works perfectly and the 28.8 modem works perfectly. I have not used them simultaneously but it's theoretically possible. An additional nice feature of the Xircom is digital protection. Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 7 10:02:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA200990971; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 10:02:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12793; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 10:01:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 7 Dec 1996 09:57:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12248; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 09:57:05 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12241; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 09:56:56 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA105060; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:56:52 GMT Received: from ts010p6.pop4a.netvision.net.il(194.90.3.188) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaHSkDmb; Sat Dec 7 14:56:41 1996 Message-Id: <32A985B1.6D97@shani.net> Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 16:56:49 +0200 From: Eran Tromer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jesse Montrose Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 10baseT ethernet/28.8 modem combo for 560? References: <3.0.32.19961206080053.00732624@mailhost.hooked.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Jesse Montrose wrote: > > I've heard horror stories.. would love to hear any recommendations.. I'm using a Megahertz XJEM3288 on my 560. Highlights: - 28.8K modem / 14.4K fax - 10BaseT and coax Ethernet with appropriate cables, only one of these included. - Flash ROM - Modem has cellular support, cables required (check out www.mhz.com for more info) The included Win95 installation was buggy. The latest version from their site worked (on 2nd attempt..). Other than that, it's a great product. Smooth modem and network connections with no voodoo or tweaking. One issue you should be aware of: there are two similar versions, XJEM3288 and CCEM3288. The former has the "X-Jack" (built-in pop-up phone socket, see the MHz site for a photo). While it's very convenient and saves carrying an extra cable, the plug may be blocked by a 2nd PCMCIA card. So if you plan on using the modem and another card (e.g., SCSI) simultaneously, get the CC version. Regards, Eran Tromer From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 7 14:14:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA221136052; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:14:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26092; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:13:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:09:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25781; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:09:05 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25774; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:08:58 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA12057 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:02:30 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199612071902.OAA12057@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: compression in pcdos and pcmcia sram To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:02:30 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, This is a very simple question, but I can't seem to find the answer in any of the documentation or help files I have... I have a TP750C w/ a PC-DOS 6.3/Windows 3.11 configuration. I'm using the built in PC-DOS compression, which swaps C: with E:. I'm also loading the Socket Services ATA/SRAM driver, which assigns each of the slots to D: and E:, hence making E: (raw HD) inaccessible to Windows. Is there a way to force PC-DOS to swap C: and F: or G: at bootup instead? Thanks in advance, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@relito.medeng.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Laboratory so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 7 16:22:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA230893765; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:22:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06373; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:20:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:16:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05822; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:16:52 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05816; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:16:49 -0500 Received: from ankle.uplanet.com (bass-39.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.8.103]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03135 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:16:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961207131534.00735354@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 13:16:45 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jesse Montrose Subject: ethernet/modem combo, thanks and summary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks for all the great responses! Here's a summary for anyone else that's interested: 3com, megahertz and xircom were the 3 known working brands mentioned, I didn't hear very 'bad' reviews. 3com: inspires customer loyalty :) works great on Warp, too. megahertz: the original install software is bad, but updates are available via www the XJack version (the one I'm interested in) does still block a second card, like all the other xjacks. xircom: just works :) For what it's worth, I'm going to go with the xjack megahertz version (I hate dongles), will report when it's set up. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 7 16:33:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA231784417; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:33:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07504; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:32:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:31:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07228; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:31:06 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (wdl1.wdl.lmco.com [137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07222; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:31:04 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id NAA15601; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:30:01 -0800 Message-Id: <32A9E3BC.2F98@conic.lmco.com> Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 13:38:04 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jesse Montrose Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ethernet/modem combo, thanks and summary References: <3.0.32.19961207131534.00735354@mailhost.hooked.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu 3Com has a deal where you can buy the ethernet/33.6 combo card directly from them for $219 or $239 for thin net capability. I have mine on order now. You have to find one of the ads they run in either PC Week or Info World. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 7 18:35:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA242071709; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 18:35:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16610; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 18:33:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 7 Dec 1996 18:29:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16212; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 18:29:22 -0500 Received: from netcom18.netcom.com (phr@netcom18.netcom.com [192.100.81.131]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16206; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 18:29:18 -0500 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id PAA21861; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 15:29:15 -0800 Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 15:29:15 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199612072329.PAA21861@netcom18.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 8 meg 755cx ram card for sale Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu True blue IBM, FRU P/N 07G1416, P/N 40G0276. I'm not sure whether this is a parity card or not. I've been using it in a 755cx which doesn't support parity, but just upgraded to a 32 meg Apricorn card. Initial asking price for the 8 meg card is $80, let me know if I'm dreaming. Paul From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 7 22:23:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA259485389; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 22:23:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29683; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 22:21:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 7 Dec 1996 22:13:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28896; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 22:13:54 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28888; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 22:13:49 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-e-04.usc.edu [128.125.222.148]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id TAA29516; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:13:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961207191328.006ab3c8@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 19:13:43 -0800 To: tomf@conic.lmco.com From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: ethernet/modem combo, thanks and summary Cc: Jesse Montrose , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:38 PM 12/7/96 -0800, Tom Franklin wrote: >3Com has a deal where you can buy the ethernet/33.6 combo card directly >from them for $219 or $239 for thin net capability. I have mine on >order now. You have to find one of the ads they run in either PC Week >or Info World. I'm kinda interested myself. If you find a phone number for where to order this from, I'd be interested (perhaps others on the list would be too). ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 8 11:44:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA023813494; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 11:44:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17962; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 11:39:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 8 Dec 1996 11:34:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17447; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 11:34:27 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (wdl1.wdl.lmco.com [137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17441; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 11:34:24 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id IAA11408; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 08:33:06 -0800 Message-Id: <32AAEFAF.6C65@conic.lmco.com> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 08:41:19 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Randy Whittle Cc: Jesse Montrose , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ethernet/modem combo, thanks and summary References: <3.0.32.19961207191328.006ab3c8@scf.usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Randy Whittle wrote: > > At 01:38 PM 12/7/96 -0800, Tom Franklin wrote: > >3Com has a deal where you can buy the ethernet/33.6 combo card directly > >from them for $219 or $239 for thin net capability. I have mine on > >order now. You have to find one of the ads they run in either PC Week > >or Info World. > > I'm kinda interested myself. If you find a phone number for where to > order this from, I'd be interested (perhaps others on the list would be too). > The number is (800)NET-3COM then option 4. They ask you where you saw the ad: "PC Week on Nov 25." They then ask you something about the ad: "The Line Speed Lie." The second question I am not sure the answer is right, but just say the ad isn't in-front of you at the moment. I think they ask the second question to keep people who don't have the ad from using this offer. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 8 15:19:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA041306345; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:19:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29836; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:17:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:15:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29425; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:15:03 -0500 Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29400; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:14:59 -0500 Received: from matchb.demon.co.uk ([158.152.105.156]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa512478; 8 Dec 96 20:00 GMT Sender: martin@mail.demon.net Message-Id: <32AB2DF7.41398988@matchb.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 21:07:03 +0000 From: Martin Young X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.5 i486) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Hard disk interface failure? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi everyone, I wonder if anyone has had problems with the HD interface on a TP750 failing? After acting on advice to get a non-IBM HD to work in my 750, I successfully got my Hitachi 810MB drive to work by breaking the link between the master/slave pins on the HD connector inside the caddy. Everything worked fine for a couple of weeks, until one day I reopened the lid, after suspending the machine as usual, the HD LED remained ON and the machine wouldn't wake up. I had to remove the battery and disconnect the power to get the machine to reset. After this, when the machine boots, the HD LED flickers very dimly, but the HD is not recognised, and the machine doesn't boot. If I remove the HD, everything seems OK on the self-test. Could I have damaged the machine by changing the disk drive? I think the disk is still OK because the symptoms are the same with a different HD. I still have 2 months' warranty left, so I'm planning to return it (after restoring the original HD). Martin. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 8 19:31:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA065611472; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:31:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21016; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:28:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:21:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20650; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:21:24 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (wdl1.wdl.lmco.com [137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20633; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:21:19 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id QAA22196; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:20:36 -0800 Message-Id: <32AB5D44.2599@conic.lmco.com> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 16:28:52 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Randy Whittle Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ethernet/modem combo, thanks and summary References: <3.0.32.19961208115228.007501e4@scf.usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > Thanks very much. I have a 3COM PCMCIA card that I *really* like (seems > to be supported by everything) and to have a combo card would be neato. > > Do you know if they have a model with X-Jack-like capability? I'm still > not fond of the dongle-thingy idea for the phone cord... It uses a dongle. I don't like the XJacks -- I was always fearful it would break. Different strokes . . . From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 8 20:04:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA068423449; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:04:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22969; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:02:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:59:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22668; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:59:44 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22658; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:59:40 -0500 Received: from ankle.uplanet.com (bass-23.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.8.87]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17495 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:59:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961208165806.0072dba4@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 16:59:17 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jesse Montrose Subject: defense of xjacks (was Re: ethernet/modem combo, thanks and summary) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 04:28 PM 12/8/96 -0800, Tom Franklin wrote: >> Do you know if they have a model with X-Jack-like capability? I'm still >> not fond of the dongle-thingy idea for the phone cord... > >It uses a dongle. I don't like the XJacks -- I was always fearful it >would break. Different strokes . . . Just an anecdotal reference, I've had two xjack modems (a 14.4 and a 28.8) and have never had the xjack break (I have broken a couple dongles). These poor xjacks take an amazing amount of abuse, since I use it at home, the phone cord is generally laying about begging to get tripped over, stepped on, etc. One particularly spectacular trip yanked the entire pcmcia modem out of its socket, socket cover and all.. popped it back in and all was well. BTW, both of these were megahertz, can't say about the others. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 8 20:17:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA070474246; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:17:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23873; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:16:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:14:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23671; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:14:41 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23665; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:14:38 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-i-32.usc.edu [128.125.224.104]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id RAA21388; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 17:14:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961208171429.006a8e78@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 17:14:42 -0800 To: Jesse Montrose From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: defense of xjacks (was Re: ethernet/modem combo, thanks and summary) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 04:59 PM 12/8/96 -0800, Jesse Montrose wrote: >>It uses a dongle. I don't like the XJacks -- I was always fearful it >>would break. Different strokes . . . > >Just an anecdotal reference, I've had two xjack modems (a 14.4 and a 28.8) >and have never had the xjack break (I have broken a couple dongles). >BTW, both of these were megahertz, can't say about the others. I'd have to second that to some extent, and add that I *have* had another X-Jack "Clone" made by Practical Peripherals--man, was that thing a LEMON! It never could stay in--nothing but problems. But as for the Megahertz "originals" (they invented it & own the patent), the MHz I have right now with X-Jack works wonderfully with no problems--and its taken a bit of abuse too. Alas, it was a little hairy to use with my 701 (fold-out keyboard), but functional, and on the 560 I have to make sure I use the "upper" slot--the bottom slot doesn't work because the computer is so darn *thin* that the bottom part of the RJ-11 plug hits the table before it can lock into place in the X-Jack! ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 8 20:35:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA071975314; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:35:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25896; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:34:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:30:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25287; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:30:24 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25275; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:30:21 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA140486 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 01:30:10 GMT Received: from slip166-72-81-169.ca.us.ibm.net(166.72.81.169) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaSmwDmb; Mon Dec 9 01:29:54 1996 Message-Id: <32AB797B.411D@ibm.net> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 19:29:15 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Info & Mngmt Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Warp 4 / Jaz Drive - working with Utility Disks Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7FFA5AE84590" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7FFA5AE84590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been trying to create a set of utility diskettes under Warp 4 that would allow me to use the SCSI PCCARD (Adaptec SlimSCSI 1460A) to fire up the IOMEGA Jaz drive on emergency bootup (so I can make a mirror copy of the current setup and restore without alot of hassles). I have the JAZ drive working under Warp 4 (using HFPS) and all is well, but CANNOT get the PCMCIA slot on my thinkpad (755CE) to work with the utility diskettes ... ANYONE?!?!?! -Bob- --- --------------7FFA5AE84590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="SIG.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="SIG.txt" 1 Bob Angell, Principal-Systems(Industrial) Engineer / Author / Instructor 2 Applied Information & Management Systems, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 voice:(801) 583-8544 fax:(801) 582-9543 email:bangell@venus.cs.utah.edu 4 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 5 Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet Solutions, Lotus Notes/Internotes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCP/IP, Netbios, NFS, DCE), Custom (AWK, PERL, C++, Visualizer), 8 Database design/development (SQL based:DB2, SQLserver, etc.), Data Modeling 9 Operating Systems (Warp/NT Server; AIX / HP-UX / SunOS; OS/400 [AS/400]) 10 __________________________________________________________________________ 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sandwich, they would 12 both be with us today!" - Anon [Disclaimer: I don't speak for the UofU!] --------------7FFA5AE84590-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 8 21:04:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA074377093; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 21:04:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28066; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 21:02:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 8 Dec 1996 21:01:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27980; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 21:01:45 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27972; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 21:01:40 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id VAA08306; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 21:03:09 -0500 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 21:03:08 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: defense of xjacks (was Re: ethernet/modem combo, thanks and summary) In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961208165806.0072dba4@mailhost.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Jesse Montrose wrote: > At 04:28 PM 12/8/96 -0800, Tom Franklin wrote: > > > >It uses a dongle. I don't like the XJacks -- I was always fearful it > >would break. Different strokes . . . > > These poor xjacks take an amazing amount of abuse, since I use it at home, > the phone cord is generally laying about begging to get tripped over, > stepped on, etc. The XJacks on the MHz modems are the full thickness of the card except for two sheets of metal. The dongles, by virtue of having to plug into the card while protecting the pin connectors, are usually about 1/2 to 3/4 the thickness of the card. The dongles usually extend further out from the computer as well. What this means is that in a drop or yank, the dongles have a bigger moment arm and a smaller thickness to resist that moment. The dongle on my AT&T modem barely survived a fall off my lap onto the sofa. It was bent but the wires still worked. It died the next drop. My IBM ethernet card's dongle has held up a little better, but it's also a little loose due to a fall. The MHz XJack I had survived numerous falls. Often the XJack was short enough that the computer case took the brunt of the fall. The couple times it fell on the XJack, the XJack just popped back in. I also inadvertently lifted the computer by the XJack a couple times, without ill effects. The MHz rep I spoke to when I returned my first modem (DOA) said they'd never had an XJack modem returned due to the XJack breaking off. Of course this was in 1993... -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 8 21:32:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA076618729; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 21:32:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00347; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 21:30:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 8 Dec 1996 21:28:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29921; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 21:28:35 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (wdl1.wdl.lmco.com [137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29908; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 21:28:32 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id SAA24982; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 18:28:19 -0800 Message-Id: <32AB7B35.6763@conic.lmco.com> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 18:36:37 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ethernet/modem combo, thanks and summary References: <3.0.32.19961208115228.007501e4@scf.usc.edu> <32AB5D44.2599@conic.lmco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > Do you know if they have a model with X-Jack-like capability? I'm still > > not fond of the dongle-thingy idea for the phone cord... > > It uses a dongle. I don't like the XJacks -- I was always fearful it > would break. Different strokes . . . In defense of the dongle camp: I have had three Xjacks and two had problems. I had a Hayes Xjack and it would no longer stay in. I returned it for another that worked fine till I sold it. Then I beta tested a MHz 33.6 Xjack model that got the head of a phone cord stuck in it. After trying to get it out normally, I had to really yank on it which bent the pins. MHz recognized it was a problem and replaced it. In their defense they said newer models had a solution for the problem. Another nit about the Xjacks: Because of the orientation of the cable it interferes with some other PCMCIA cards I use. I like to use two cards at one time. Like I said "different strokes for different folks." I have no interest in igniting something akin to the OS wars, I just don't prefer the Xjacks. After getting my MHz model after the Beta test for free, I sold it and bought a dongle version. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 8 22:09:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA079320972; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:09:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02921; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:08:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:05:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02736; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:05:24 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02730; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:05:20 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA11980; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 03:05:07 GMT Received: from slip166-72-160-94.sc.us.ibm.net(166.72.160.94) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaS4MDM2; Mon Dec 9 03:04:51 1996 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961208220028.0132bad0@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> X-Sender: jloyles@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 22:00:33 -0500 To: "John H. Kim" From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: defense of xjacks (was Re: ethernet/modem combo, thanks and summary) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >The MHz rep I spoke to when I returned my first modem (DOA) said >they'd never had an XJack modem returned due to the XJack breaking >off. Of course this was in 1993... > I had one user who tripped over the phone cord and jerked the XJack out of its socket, and I broke the little wires in my own once. Both times, though, I just called their support line, got an RMA number, FedEx'd the broken one out to Utah, and got a replacement within 5 business days - no hassle. Jane From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 9 12:58:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA164664312; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:58:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10776; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:52:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:39:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09480; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:39:49 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (CNRI.Reston.VA.US [132.151.1.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09473; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:39:45 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa14075; 9 Dec 96 12:36 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA03356; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:34:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:34:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199612091734.MAA03356@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> From: Ken Manheimer To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Help with TP 701 FAX modem (under Hylafax/linux)? Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US X-Mailer: VM 5.96 (beta) / 19.14 XEmacs Lucid Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, all. I'm trying to get the fax side of my tp701's inboard fax modem working, and am having problems. I may just need to give my fax software (hylafax 4.0pl0) the right command set for the fax modem, but unfortunately i don't know where to get that. Does anyone know where to look for it? (I tried search at , but don't even know exactly what to search for!) (It sounds like my machine fails when trying to connect with the remote fax machine. I hear the dialup, answer, machines whistle at eachother and then warble for a moment, but this does not seem to succeed, because the opening whistle/warble sequence gets repeated a few times. Finally the remote machine hangs up, but my machine doesn't recognize that, and continues to try to send a probe tone - even after the robot lady picks up the phone and suggests hanging up and trying to call again. This happened with two different fax machines, so i suspect the way i'm configuring my software to use the fax modem...) Generally, has anyone used the 701 fax modem with hylafax? Hints and tips would be emphatically welcome! (I'm trying to find a quick way to send mail to my girlfriend, who's at a buddhist monastary in france for a while - fax would be handy!) Ken Manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 9 14:16:38 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA175348996; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:16:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18232; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:07:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:03:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17337; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:03:56 -0500 Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17269; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:03:33 -0500 Received: from sfupc.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Mon, 09 Dec 1996 10:41:08 PST Received: by sfupc.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BBE5BD.E0B72820@sfupc.Triumf.CA>; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:43:56 -0800 Message-Id: <01BBE5BD.E0B72820@sfupc.Triumf.CA> From: tisol To: "'David Ross'" , Terry Haggin Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "tph@best.com" Subject: RE: thinkpad 350c from 486/25 t0 486/100? Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:43:54 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The TP350 uses a 486SL . There is NO upgrade path for the SL series. Sorry! As one who also uses a Compac Concerto (pen) this is truly sad. ..peter.. ---------- From: David Ross[SMTP:ross@math.hawaii.edu] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 1996 2:45 PM To: Terry Haggin Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; tph@best.com Subject: Re: thinkpad 350c from 486/25 t0 486/100? > A 486/25 changed to 486/100 is a 4 x speed difference. wow! I hate to keep harping on this, but even in the best of circumstances you won't see this kind of speed increase. (However, if possible a switch on your machine to, say, an AMD586-100 is more of a benefit than a similar swap on the 701, since I believe your 486/25 has no internal cache, unlike the cpu on the 701.) - David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 9 14:17:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA175559072; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:17:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18534; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:10:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:08:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18316; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:08:48 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18310; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:08:45 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA180470 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:08:25 GMT Received: from slip166-72-81-229.ca.us.ibm.net(166.72.81.229) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma0rYDmb; Mon Dec 9 19:08:11 1996 Message-Id: <32AC719C.2218@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 13:07:56 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Info & Mngmt Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [Fwd: Warp 4 / Jaz Drive - working with Utility Disks] Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <32AB797B.411D@ibm.net> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 19:29:15 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Info & Mngmt Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Warp 4 / Jaz Drive - working with Utility Disks Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7FFA5AE84590" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7FFA5AE84590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been trying to create a set of utility diskettes under Warp 4 that would allow me to use the SCSI PCCARD (Adaptec SlimSCSI 1460A) to fire up the IOMEGA Jaz drive on emergency bootup (so I can make a mirror copy of the current setup and restore without alot of hassles). I have the JAZ drive working under Warp 4 (using HFPS) and all is well, but CANNOT get the PCMCIA slot on my thinkpad (755CE) to work with the utility diskettes ... ANYONE?!?!?! -Bob- --- --------------7FFA5AE84590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="SIG.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="SIG.txt" 1 Bob Angell, Principal-Systems(Industrial) Engineer / Author / Instructor 2 Applied Information & Management Systems, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 voice:(801) 583-8544 fax:(801) 582-9543 email:bangell@venus.cs.utah.edu 4 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 5 Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet Solutions, Lotus Notes/Internotes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCP/IP, Netbios, NFS, DCE), Custom (AWK, PERL, C++, Visualizer), 8 Database design/development (SQL based:DB2, SQLserver, etc.), Data Modeling 9 Operating Systems (Warp/NT Server; AIX / HP-UX / SunOS; OS/400 [AS/400]) 10 __________________________________________________________________________ 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sandwich, they would 12 both be with us today!" - Anon [Disclaimer: I don't speak for the UofU!] --------------7FFA5AE84590-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 9 16:48:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA198618130; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:48:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03188; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:39:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:35:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02664; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:35:37 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02620; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:35:24 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA06790; Mon, 9 Dec 96 11:35:13 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA03384; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:35:35 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199612092135.LAA03384@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: RE: DX4-74 --> 5x86-100 Conversion Question To: machule@triumf.ca (tisol) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 96 11:35:34 HST Cc: blue@enteract.com, 'David@math.hawaii.edu, Ross'@math.hawaii.edu, ross@math.hawaii.edu, laniear@ibm.net, "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu"@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <01BBE5BD.783772A0@sfupc.Triumf.CA>; from "tisol" at Dec 9, 96 10:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tisol said: > NOPE ! What you are mainly paying for is liability (theirs) and profit. > There is a "bit" of work involved in getting to the cpu and unsoldering it. Yes, but the Cy586, the AMD586, and the 701's CPU all use different caching strategies, and clock multiplication is triggered using different signals. So, the BIOS also needs to be either changed or fooled. (This is why motherboards usually have different jumperings for these chips.) I believe the miniboards by Evergreen, Kingston, and the like do some sort of hardware/software emulation for this. Just swapping the chip would certainly not be enough. > The chip itself, usually the AMD 486DX -133 is less than $45. > peter.. This particular chip has recently undergone frightening price increases (at least the cool-running ADZ version; the ADW version might still be less than $50, but would not be appropriate for a laptop). - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 9 17:52:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA209631920; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:52:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10522; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:49:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:45:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10078; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:45:41 -0500 Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10072; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:45:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199612092245.RAA10072@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:45:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Victor Kress" To: "aimsllc@ibm.net" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 09 Dec 96 14:45:38 +0500 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Victor Kress's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Fwd: Warp 4 / Jaz Drive - working with Utility Disks] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have the same problem with the zip drive and an IBM PCMCIA SCSI card. I could install the zip IFS drivers or the SCSI card drivers under warp but not both at the same time. I finally gave up and use my zip formatted FAT. This works OK, but it is slow and FAT is bad for extended attributes. I've seen no updates of the OS/2 zip drivers, so I assume they think it isn't a problem. I assumed that this was just a problem with the IBM SCSI, but if you are having the same problem with Adaptec, then maybe Iomega can be convinced take more notice. On Mon, 09 Dec 1996 13:07:56 -0700, Bob Angell wrote: > >I have been trying to create a set of utility diskettes under Warp 4 >that would allow me to use the SCSI PCCARD (Adaptec SlimSCSI 1460A) >to fire up the IOMEGA Jaz drive on emergency bootup (so I can make a >mirror copy of the current setup and restore without alot of hassles). > >I have the JAZ drive working under Warp 4 (using HFPS) and all is well, >but CANNOT get the PCMCIA slot on my thinkpad (755CE) to work with the >utility diskettes ... ANYONE?!?!?! > >-Bob- ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 9 18:43:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA218054995; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 18:43:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15422; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 18:41:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 18:39:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15125; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 18:39:11 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15119; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 18:39:03 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA28875; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:38:51 +1100 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) id KAA13965; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:38:49 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:38:42 +1100 (EST) To: Jesse Montrose Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ethernet/modem combo, thanks and summary In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961207131534.00735354@mailhost.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu how about ethernet combo cards that work with linux? xircom's are not on the linux compatibility list for example. any suggestions? regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 On Sat, 7 Dec 1996, Jesse Montrose wrote: > Thanks for all the great responses! > > Here's a summary for anyone else that's interested: > > 3com, megahertz and xircom were the 3 known working brands mentioned, I > didn't hear very 'bad' reviews. > > 3com: > inspires customer loyalty :) > works great on Warp, too. > > megahertz: > the original install software is bad, but updates are available via www > the XJack version (the one I'm interested in) does still block a second > card, like all the other xjacks. > > xircom: > just works :) > > > For what it's worth, I'm going to go with the xjack megahertz version (I > hate dongles), will report when it's set up. > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 9 19:45:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA226538719; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:45:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19525; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:43:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:39:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19084; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:39:01 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19078; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:38:59 -0500 Received: from ankle.uplanet.com (host-165-53.uplanet.com [204.163.165.53]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA15877 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:39:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961209163542.00744f10@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 16:38:55 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jesse Montrose Subject: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm hoping someone has an elegant solution to this: I (and several others in my company) need to hook up our laptops via ethernet when we're in the office, and dialup from home. Our internal net is on a different subnet from our modem bank. We use dynamic PPP. The only way our IS guys have been able to make this work is to run .reg files that do this: REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\NetTrans\0003] "IPAddress"="0.0.0.0" "IPMask"="0.0.0.0" to switch to dialup, and the same thing with real IP's for local ethernet. The problem as I understand it is that when we're set up for the office, with the IP's entered for our local net, it's cool, but when that same config is used over dialup, win95 still uses those IP's, instead of using the IP the PPP server gives them. The result is that it appears to work, but we can't ping anywhere :) I figure other people must have run into this? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 9 20:04:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA228609847; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:04:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21291; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:02:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:00:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20829; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:00:04 -0500 Received: from pyrrhus.alice-compusystems.com (alc130.syspac.com [204.181.55.207]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20807; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:59:57 -0500 Received: by pyrrhus.alice-compusystems.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0vXGXa-0000xxC; Mon, 9 Dec 96 17:59 MST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 9 Dec 96 17:59 MST From: jones@alice-compusystems.com (David Jones) To: kress@u.washington.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Your IBM SCSI Credit Card Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry, this is not an answer to your question, at least not yet. I would like to ask you what cable comes with the 92G8171, the credit card adapter; i.e., the business end: Centronics M50, micro SCSI II? I have a ZIP drive, which has the non standard DB25F connector, currently in storage. I did not have a chance to work on it before we moved. I shall be buying a new SCSI PC Card, probably the 92G8171 - I have not had time to develop the OS/2 driver for the Panasonic KXC001 PC Card, unsupported of course. Thanks, David Jones From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 9 21:44:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA241615850; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:44:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00208; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:42:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:38:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29662; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:38:30 -0500 Received: from chelsea.ios.com (root@chelsea.ios.com [198.4.75.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29654; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:38:28 -0500 Received: from NYLS2TEST.btco.com (ppp-8.ts-3.nyc.idt.net [169.132.97.8]) by chelsea.ios.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA22560 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:33:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612100233.VAA22560@chelsea.ios.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Mark M. Ingerman" Organization: Creative Software Solutions To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:38:26 -0400 Subject: hard disk prices Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am looking to get rid of the IBM 810 Meg hard disk which came with my 755cx. Does anybody know what I can expect to get for it? Thanks Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. (508) 394-5899 ingerman@cs2.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 9 22:57:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA250290272; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 22:57:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05948; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 22:53:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 22:49:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05415; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 22:49:47 -0500 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05409; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 22:49:45 -0500 Received: from cais2.cais.com (cais2.cais.com [199.0.216.200]) by andrew.cais.com (8.6.9/8.6.9-cais) with SMTP id WAA22344 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 22:49:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 22:49:43 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Panasonic KXC002 Credit Card In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The KXC002 came with a KXL-D740 CR-ROM. Does any one know if this PCMCIA card will work with other SCSI devices such as the ZIP or a tape drive? Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 9 23:04:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA250640653; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:04:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06931; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:01:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:00:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06788; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:00:41 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06775; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:00:36 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-5 #9830) id <01ICTDEYF6K0BB1IKS@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:58:50 MST Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 20:42:30 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? In-Reply-To: "Message dated Mon, 09 Dec 1996 16:38:55 -0800" <3.0.32.19961209163542.00744f10@mailhost.hooked.net> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01ICTJ1NU63IBB1IKS@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I (and several others in my company) need to hook up our laptops via > ethernet when we're in the office, and dialup from home. I don't know about W95 but for 3.1 I use cisco's (formerly TGV until cisco bought them - TGV has been doing VMS extremely well for years and started the pc software just before cisco) package works fairly well. You can have many dialup nets, all different - just click on whatever and use it (in addition to a normal ethernet network), after you've entered a configuration for it, of course.. This is one of its nicest features - I'm out in the field a lot and this makes it all pretty easy. The down side is it's $199 a copy and some parts of it could stand some improvement (telnet windows sometimes change size when used a second, third, etc. time, sometimes finger doesn't put line feeds in the text it displays - little stuff like that). Take a look at www.tgv.cisco.com for more info. This is probably not the only package that can do this, but it's the only one I know about... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 02:40:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA279983658; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:40:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21968; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:39:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:34:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21592; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:34:56 -0500 Received: from suntan.tandem.com (suntan.tandem.com [192.216.221.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21583; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:34:50 -0500 Received: from adm.loc201.tandem.com by suntan.tandem.com (8.6.12/suntan5.961027) for id XAA08053; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:34:41 -0800 Received: from dan.fnord.tandem.com by adm.loc201.tandem.com (4.1/6main.940209) id AA03063; Mon, 9 Dec 96 23:34:38 PST Received: by dan.fnord.tandem.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBE629.8DAEA060@dan.fnord.tandem.com>; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:34:42 -0800 Message-Id: <01BBE629.8DAEA060@dan.fnord.tandem.com> From: Chris DiBona To: "'Thinkpad DL'" Subject: RE: dynamic dialup Vs fixed Ethernet IP in win95? Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:34:40 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On my 701 with win 95 I am doing the exact opposite with a Megahertz = combo card. The office connection is a DHCP and the dial up is "fixed" I = put fixed in quotes because you can set whatever you like for dial up. = So ..... it is possible, it did take some tweaking. Chris DiBona ---------- From: billy@mix.com[SMTP:billy@mix.com] Sent: Monday, December 09, 1996 12:42 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? > I (and several others in my company) need to hook up our laptops via > ethernet when we're in the office, and dialup from home. I don't know about W95 but for 3.1 I use cisco's (formerly TGV until cisco bought them - TGV has been doing VMS extremely well for years and started the pc software just before cisco) package works fairly well. You can have many dialup nets, all different - just click on whatever and use it (in addition to a normal ethernet network), after you've entered a configuration for it, of course.. This is one of its nicest features - I'm out in the field a lot and this makes it all pretty easy. The down side is it's $199 a copy and some parts of it could stand some improvement (telnet windows sometimes change size when used a second, third, etc. time, sometimes finger doesn't put line feeds in the text it displays - little stuff like that). Take a look at www.tgv.cisco.com for more info. This is probably not the only package that can do this, but it's the only one I know about... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 05:18:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA298983103; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 05:18:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA04832; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 05:17:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 05:14:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA04225; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 05:14:17 -0500 Received: from bbcgate.bbc.co.uk (ns.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA04219; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 05:14:10 -0500 Received: from sung0 (localhost.bbc.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) by bbcgate.bbc.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.2) with SMTP id KAA09246 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:14:01 GMT Sender: jonm@bbcgate.bbc.co.uk Message-Id: <32AD37E8.41C67EA6@rd.bbc.co.uk> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:14:00 +0000 From: Jonathan Marshall Organization: British Broadcasting Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Audio on Thinkpad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi I'm new to the list and own a ThinkPad 755C with 20Mb RAM and 340Mb H/D which I use mainly for MIDI sequencing (via an external MIDI interface) and the occasional game. I am now trying to get the internal sound card to work in full-duplex mode which it refuses to do with the most recent drivers (v1.4) from the ibm BBS. However I seem to remember that I could record and play at the same time with the old drivers from crystal semiconductors. Does anyone have these old drivers as neither IBM or crystal will provide them. They came preinstalled on the 360/750/755c/cs and I think are called: cs48BA11.386 cs48BA11.drv cs48BA11.vxd bwcc.dll various applets.exe If anyone could email these file to me I would be most grateful. In return I can provide the recent drivers which will give full sound and MIDI support under windows95 and dos which means at last you can play doom with full sound on a non-mwave ThinkPad. While I'm here has anyone managed to get the Volume control to work under win95? Thanks in advance -- ____ ____ / / \ / \ \ / / /\ \ Jonathan Marshall / /\ \ \ / / /\ \ \ ----------------- / / /\ \ \ / /_/__\ \ \ jonm@rd.bbc.co.uk / / /__\_\ \ /________\ \ \ / / /________\ \___________\/ \/___________/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 10:54:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA038813241; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:54:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06183; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:51:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:46:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05627; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:46:33 -0500 Received: from cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us (cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us [198.109.120.98]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05617; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:46:21 -0500 Received: from escribaj.mlc.lib.mi.us (libpc129.det.hfh.edu [150.198.248.129]) by cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us (8.7.3/Merit) with ESMTP id KAA11057; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:46:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612101546.KAA11057@cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us> From: "Joseph Escribano" To: "Jesse Montrose" Cc: Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:45:19 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In Control Panel/Network, set up TCP->Dial Up Adapter connection. There you can specify "Obtain an IP address automatically". I've got a TP755C and have cards for a 3COM Ethernet III (combo), Olicom Token-Ring and a Motorola Montana 28.8 modem. At work, I usually have one of the net cards, TR mostly, and the modem. When I connect from home, I disconnect or take out the net card (so that W95 won't try to connect me to a network) and just do a dial up connection to my ISP via PPP. At work, I use both the NW32 client for LAN connections and TCP to go into the Internet. If I did a dial up connection at work, my LAN and TCP connections would be severed but the LAN ones could be restored after a dial up connect. The TCP connections thru the net cards can be specified for either automatic or fixed address assignment. Hope this helps, Joe ---------- | From: Jesse Montrose | To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu | Subject: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? | Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 7:38 PM | | I'm hoping someone has an elegant solution to this: | | I (and several others in my company) need to hook up our laptops via | ethernet when we're in the office, and dialup from home. | | Our internal net is on a different subnet from our modem bank. | | We use dynamic PPP. | From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 11:11:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA041444279; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:11:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07750; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:07:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:06:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07463; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:06:26 -0500 Received: from tiger.avana.net (tiger.avana.net [205.245.133.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07450; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:06:22 -0500 Received: from littleboy.multisoft.com by tiger.avana.net; (5.65/1.1.8.2/30Apr96-1201PM) id AA20015; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:06:18 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961210160616.0069e108@tiger.avana.net> X-Sender: lrj@tiger.avana.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:06:16 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Lew Jansen Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I beat my head against the wall for a couple of weeks trying to figure out why I could connect to everywhere BUT my office network through the Win95 PPP dialup to my ISP. I could get to the office machines just fine when on the ethernet at work, just not when I was dialing up to my ISP. My ethernet card was set to a static IP addr, my dialup to a dynamic IP addr (controlpanel->network, look for the two seperate TCPIP items.) The problem is that Win95 is just bright enough to be a pain in the butt. I found that everything works fine if my ethernet card is REMOVED from my 'pad before dialing to my ISP -- I can connect to the office ethernet and all that stuff. It appears that Win95 sees that the ethernet card is in the machine (config'd for the office LAN), so it sends all packets for that IP range to the ethernet card. It doesn't seem to check to see if the card is actually connected to anything. I imagine this is probably your problem; try booting the laptops without your ethernet cards and see if it fixes it. (This is an additional reason why I'll never buy a combo ethernet/modem card) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lew Jansen lrj@avana.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 11:29:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044625376; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:29:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09735; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:26:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:24:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09337; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:24:29 -0500 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09319; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:24:23 -0500 Received: from lee.market1.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #10) id m0vXUyW-001B53C; Tue, 10 Dec 96 09:24 MST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Dec 96 09:24 MST X-Sender: lee@rmii.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >The problem is that Win95 is just bright enough to be a pain in the butt. >I found that everything works fine if my ethernet card is REMOVED from my >'pad before dialing to my ISP -- I can connect to the office ethernet and >all that stuff. It appears that Win95 sees that the ethernet card is in the >machine (config'd for the office LAN), so it sends all packets for that IP >range to the ethernet card. It doesn't seem to check to see if the card is >actually connected to anything. This is what I found too... The other thing you can do is define a second configuration where the lan card is not part of that configuration and everything works fine -- of course that implies rebooting... Lee Stewart From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 13:11:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA059581459; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:10:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18938; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:08:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:59:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18075; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:59:02 -0500 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk (mail-a.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18064; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:58:57 -0500 Received: from [128.40.81.205] (actually host mac1.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:54:45 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-smtp-server.ucl.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:52:57 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk (Alexander J. Annala) Subject: WTB: TP750CS Hard Drive >340MB (perhaps 810 MB) in London Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone in London have a larger IBM manufactured disk drive in a caddy compatible the TP 750 Cs which they would like to sell? I need something larger than my current 340 MB disk drive for all of my programs and data (and maybe WIndows 95 or Windows NT which are required for the new Mathematioca 3.0). Thanks, Alexander J. Annala, Ph.D. LMP/Pharmacology University College London (near Euston Station) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 15:14:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA079428880; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:14:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28686; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:00:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:54:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28092; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:54:42 -0500 Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (root@[129.10.111.100]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28080; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:54:29 -0500 Received: from sinai.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@sinai.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.113.201]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.8.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07889; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:53:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (dnb@localhost) by sinai.ccs.neu.edu (8.8.4/8.6.4) id OAA09152; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:53:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:53:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612101953.OAA09152@sinai.ccs.neu.edu> From: "David N. Blank-Edelman" To: Jesse Montrose Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961209163542.00744f10@mailhost.hooked.net> References: <3.0.32.19961209163542.00744f10@mailhost.hooked.net> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Jesse Montrose writes: > I (and several others in my company) need to hook up our laptops via > ethernet when we're in the office, and dialup from home. > > Our internal net is on a different subnet from our modem bank. Howdy- I believe netswitcher will handle this for you: http://www.bysnet.com/netsw.html I haven't used it, but I'm definitely planning to. Hope this helps. Peace, dNb From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 16:04:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA088581897; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:04:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04798; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:01:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:57:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04104; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:57:27 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04096; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:57:21 -0500 Received: from ankle.uplanet.com (bass-12.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.8.76]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA20567 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:57:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961210125111.00722c1c@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:57:09 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jesse Montrose Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:06 AM 12/10/96 -0500, Lew Jansen wrote: > I imagine this is probably your problem; try booting the laptops without >your ethernet cards and see if it fixes it. (This is an additional reason >why I'll never buy a combo ethernet/modem card) That sounds like an equivalent hardware solution to our current .reg files :) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 16:05:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA088711935; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:05:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04794; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:01:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:57:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04110; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:57:28 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04098; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:57:24 -0500 Received: from ankle.uplanet.com (bass-12.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.8.76]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA20559 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:57:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961210124859.00cd4fe8@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:57:07 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jesse Montrose Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:45 AM 12/10/96 -0500, Joseph Escribano wrote: >In Control Panel/Network, set up TCP->Dial Up Adapter connection. There >you can specify "Obtain an IP address automatically". I have that set. >I've got a TP755C and have cards for a 3COM Ethernet III (combo), Olicom >Token-Ring and a Motorola Montana 28.8 modem. At work, I usually have one >of the net cards, TR mostly, and the modem. When I connect from home, I >disconnect or take out the net card (so that W95 won't try to connect me to >a network) and just do a dial up connection to my ISP via PPP. That occurred to me, have you tried using the win95 Hardware Profiles for that? Our guy couldn't make that work, but it seemed promising to me. Does it work if you don't remove/disconnect the card? >At work, I use both the NW32 client for LAN connections and TCP to go into >the Internet. If I did a dial up connection at work, my LAN and TCP >connections would be severed but the LAN ones could be restored after a >dial up connect. >The TCP connections thru the net cards can be specified for either >automatic or fixed address assignment. That came up too, they don't want to switch the entire office network to dynamic IP though. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 16:30:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA093623438; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:30:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07397; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:24:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:22:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07144; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:22:27 -0500 Received: from tiger.avana.net (tiger.avana.net [205.245.133.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07124; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:22:21 -0500 Received: from littleboy.multisoft.com by tiger.avana.net; (5.65/1.1.8.2/30Apr96-1201PM) id AA21220; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:21:53 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961210212148.0068b414@tiger.avana.net> X-Sender: lrj@tiger.avana.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:21:48 -0500 To: Jesse Montrose From: Lew Jansen Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:57 PM 12/10/96 -0800, you wrote: >At 11:06 AM 12/10/96 -0500, Lew Jansen wrote: >> I imagine this is probably your problem; try booting the laptops without >>your ethernet cards and see if it fixes it. (This is an additional reason >>why I'll never buy a combo ethernet/modem card) > >That sounds like an equivalent hardware solution to our current .reg files :) That's to check it -- I forgot to mention that what I've found works *most* of the time (~95%) is to either remove the ethercard when the 'pad is suspended (i.e. before you open it up to use dialup networking) or click on the PCMCIA taskbar icon and "Stop" the ethercard & remove it. -- Lew ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lew Jansen lrj@avana.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 17:09:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA100125783; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:09:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12124; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:05:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:01:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11804; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:01:31 -0500 Received: from cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us (cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us [198.109.120.98]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11781; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:01:20 -0500 Received: from escribaj.mlc.lib.mi.us (libpc129.det.hfh.edu [150.198.248.129]) by cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us (8.7.3/Merit) with ESMTP id RAA29545; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:01:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612102201.RAA29545@cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us> From: "Joseph Escribano" To: , "Jesse Montrose" Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:00:19 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ---------- | From: Jesse Montrose | To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu | Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? | Date: Tuesday, December 10, 1996 3:57 PM | | At 10:45 AM 12/10/96 -0500, Joseph Escribano wrote: | >In Control Panel/Network, set up TCP->Dial Up Adapter connection. There | >you can specify "Obtain an IP address automatically". | | I have that set. So you should have a separate one for your net card, right? In my case, I have TCP->Olicom... and TCP->3COM Etherlink... and on those two IPs are assigned; the dialup is dynamic. The W95 TCP stack is unique. Apparently you can choose either direct or dialup connect types and W95 will choose the appropriate stack; you can't have both simultaneously. | | >I've got a TP755C and have cards for a 3COM Ethernet III (combo), Olicom | >Token-Ring and a Motorola Montana 28.8 modem. At work, I usually have one | >of the net cards, TR mostly, and the modem. When I connect from home, I | >disconnect or take out the net card (so that W95 won't try to connect me to | >a network) and just do a dial up connection to my ISP via PPP. | | That occurred to me, have you tried using the win95 Hardware Profiles for | that? Our guy couldn't make that work, but it seemed promising to me. I use the hardware profiles for Docked (to a Dock I w/ CDROM) and Undocked but haven't tried it for a non-network setup. W95 can distinguish between the two setups (Docked/Undocked) but I'm not sure about a 2nd Undocked. My usual setup is Undocked at work. I only used the Dock when I want to load something from CD w/o network support (such as the W95 upgrade). I think I tried to work with hardware profiles early on but gave up for the simple solution below. | | Does it work if you don't remove/disconnect the card? If I don't, it takes longer to boot up and I get a network not found error from NW Client. It'll work but I can do without the extra hassle. No net card, no attempt to connect. I've got my PC card slots without any cover at all, so that I can pop'em out as needed. I usually leave the net cards and dongles locked up in my desk unless I happen go to a net accessible site. | | >At work, I use both the NW32 client for LAN connections and TCP to go into | >the Internet. If I did a dial up connection at work, my LAN and TCP | >connections would be severed but the LAN ones could be restored after a | >dial up connect. | >The TCP connections thru the net cards can be specified for either | >automatic or fixed address assignment. | | That came up too, they don't want to switch the entire office network to | dynamic IP though. But for direct connects, you can specify a distinct IP while having a dynamic one for dialups. | From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 17:43:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA105967834; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:43:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16371; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:41:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:39:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15980; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:39:20 -0500 Received: from suntan.tandem.com (suntan.tandem.com [192.216.221.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15974; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:39:17 -0500 Received: from adm.loc201.tandem.com by suntan.tandem.com (8.6.12/suntan5.961027) for id OAA27051; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:39:15 -0800 Received: from colobus.loc201.tandem.com (dhcp75-23.loc201.tandem.com) by adm.loc201.tandem.com (4.1/6main.940209) id AA01589; Tue, 10 Dec 96 14:39:14 PST Received: by colobus.loc201.tandem.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBE6A7.EDC72980@colobus.loc201.tandem.com>; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:39:20 -0800 Message-Id: <01BBE6A7.EDC72980@colobus.loc201.tandem.com> From: Chris DiBona To: "'Thinkpad DL'" Subject: Hello - Multiple IP's for dial-up etc. Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:39:19 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thought I'd pass this on. I have the following configuration: 701cs with internal 14.4 and a Megahertz Combo Card 14.4 / 10Mbs = 10base-T (Got a good deal on it, so I got the combo) With it I have it set up for: DHCP at work through the combo card. Dial-up PPP through the 701cs internal 14.4 modem. to work. Same except to an external provider.=20 This works flawlessly. Before I launch any tcp-ip apps. I either plug = into the work network or I dial into whatever provider I feel like going = through. Then all of them work fine. This may sound weird but just set = them up. Be sure to have the gateway settings correct. Also, for the = tcpip->dial up I have the ip preset to 192.0.0.1 and the same for the = dial-up connection. With the same gateways. I don't know if this helped = but I figured I'd pass it on. =20 Also.... If you are a Thinkpad owner in the NoVa area who is looking to sell your = Thinkpad, my sister needs one and I said I'd be on the lookout for one = for her. She needs probably one of the used 486-100's lying around out = there. Chris DiBona From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 19:53:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA122705585; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 19:53:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25403; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 19:19:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 19:17:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25237; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 19:17:03 -0500 Received: from primenet.com (root@mailhost01.primenet.com [206.165.5.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25230; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 19:16:58 -0500 Received: from primenet.primenet.com (ip185.boi.primenet.com [198.68.45.185]) by primenet.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id RAA09531 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:16:39 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:16:39 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199612110016.RAA09531@primenet.com> X-Sender: cashen@mailhost.primenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Dean Cashen Subject: 33.6 Mwave upgrade Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was intrigued by the snippets I read here about upgrading my ThinkPad Mwave modem (760CD) to 33.6Kb, so I thought I'd try it myself (I say "snippets" because, for some reason, I missed the beginning of the thread). I hope my experience last night can shed some light for other's here. For those who wondered, I pulled the update off of Watson at: http://watson.mbb.sfu.ca/software/software.html The upgrade for this isn't at watson, however, it's only referenced there and can be found at: http://www.netcnct.net/business/6bit/links/index.html It's called "33k6up.exe". After downloading it and letting it expand, I found a readme that was written in, I think, German. So, I decided to click on what turns out to be the installation utility, 336.exe. Unfortunately, that utility only allows you to update a dynalink card, and exited. So, I used the supplied "expand.exe" utility to expand the many files into one temp directory, and went to work. . . In short, while I can't say now *exactly* what I did to get it working, I essentially replaced all my current files in the c:\mww\modem with the new files from this upgrade. (In some cases you need to shut down mwave since they're being accessed and can't be overwritten). That didn't really do it all though, and I had to visually compare the *.tap and *.hap files (which appear to be, essentially, "ini" files) and update my ini files to suit -- there wasn't, in all, very much I had to update as most of the entries were identical to my current ini configs. Last, I used "Add New Hardware" on my Win95 system to install the supplied drivers (the update contains an inf file named "mwmdm410.inf" that I pointed "Add New Hardware" to after telling it I wanted to specify a new modem; I replied "no" to the "search for new hardware" question, and replied "no" for "detect new modem." I then told it to look for a new driver and pointed it at "mwmdm410.inf"). The new driver came up as "Mwave 33.6 Data Fax VOD Modem", and I let Win95 install it. Once finished, I rebooted, and the new mwave modem utility came up and identified it as a 33600 modem! Nifty. (Dev Manager, however, still thinks it's a 28800 modem. Any thoughts on that?) This morning I logged into my ISP, Primenet, and connected at 21.4kbps, or so. Not what I'd hoped for. So, a while ago, I downloaded the V34.dsp fix from watson, version 2.36, since the V34.dsp file I'd just installed in this upgrade was version 2.25, and, in general, I'm a believer in "newer is better." That done, I logged into Primenet again, and Win95 told me I was connected at 56KBPS! Probably not, but something good was happening. The Mwave Modem program told me I connected at 33.6, but then dropped it down to 31.2, where it stayed (and still is). I roughly tested the speed by downloading some files, and routinely achieved around 3.0kbps transfers, with some hitting 4.2kbps. Hardly scientific, but pretty good performance. I hope this admittedly-rambling experience helps others. So far, it seems the upgrade works pretty well. Got to run, I'm VERY late. . . ;-) Dean cashen@primenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 19:53:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA122755606; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 19:53:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22768; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 18:44:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 18:42:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22608; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 18:42:54 -0500 Received: from ucs.orst.edu (mosleys@UCS.ORST.EDU [128.193.4.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22601; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 18:42:48 -0500 Received: by ucs.orst.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/13Sep96-1023AM) id AA20806; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:42:38 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:42:37 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Mosley To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Stranded without boot floppy? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My floppy drive for my TP701c got misplaced, so I ordered one from IBM but they don't expect one in until after 1997. In the meantime, I need a way to restore the MBR on the hard drive to get my papers off ASAP (the ones I had not yet backed up onto ZIP) I was using LILO on the MBR and foolishly tried to uninstall it, now the internal HD won't boot. Does anyone out there know of a way to restore the MBR of the HD without a floppy drive? Can anyone out there loan or sell me a floppy drive before 1997? Is there a way to fix the HD from the CMOS? Is there any other way of booting the TP701c to fix a HD with a bad MBR w/o using a floppy drive? Any help or clues welcome. ======= Stephen Mosley 541-737-4514 mosleys@ucs.orst.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 19:53:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA122795618; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 19:53:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21566; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 18:28:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 18:25:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21093; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 18:25:23 -0500 Received: from asylum.apocalypse.org (root@asylum.sf.ca.us [192.48.232.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21033; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 18:25:11 -0500 Received: from belvedere.Catch22.COM (belvedere.Catch22.COM [204.182.15.40]) by asylum.apocalypse.org (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA07062 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 18:24:22 -0500 From: lang@apocalypse.org (Lang Zerner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:24:53 GMT Organization: ITC Consulting Group Reply-To: lang@apocalypse.org Message-Id: <32aeef8a.2778811@192.48.232.17> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Jesse Montrose wrote: > I (and several others in my company) need to hook up our laptops via > ethernet when we're in the office, and dialup from home. Hi, Jesse. I ran into the same problem on Windows 95 and found that a simple, $8.00 shareware utility called NetSwitch was very helpful. The = user interface is kinda clunky, but it beats reg files. You can get it at . Be seeing you... --Lang --- ITC Consulting Group integrated communication consulting services 915 Cole Street #151 internet publishing * networks * training * = design San Francisco, CA 94117 +1 800 673 7172 (outside USA call +1 415 861 = 7688) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 10 21:33:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA135851606; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 21:33:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05095; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 21:14:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 21:09:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04495; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 21:09:37 -0500 Received: from public.nfld.com (root@public.nfld.com [198.165.106.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04487; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 21:09:34 -0500 Received: from terry-p--ibm- (ts02-p26.remote.nfld.com [198.165.106.187]) by public.nfld.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA11391 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:39:22 -0330 Message-Id: <199612110209.WAA11391@public.nfld.com> From: "Terry Parrell" To: Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 21:35:58 -0300 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My Setup: MHZ Combo Card Fixed IP for Etehernet Dynamic IP for ISP/Modem bank What happens: At Home, uses the dialup PPP by default. At Work, tries to dial but I cancel twice and it then continues to connect to our net. Check Bindings, And advanced setting for default protocol is selected for whichever one you want to be the default. Hope it helps, Terry P. ---------- > From: Jesse Montrose > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? > Date: December 9, 1996 9:38 PM > > I'm hoping someone has an elegant solution to this: > > I (and several others in my company) need to hook up our laptops via > ethernet when we're in the office, and dialup from home. > > Our internal net is on a different subnet from our modem bank. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 11 12:52:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA230896745; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:52:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19629; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:48:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:39:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18786; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:39:30 -0500 Received: from ripper.engin.umich.edu ([141.213.8.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18778; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:39:26 -0500 Received: (from strongtd@localhost) by ripper.engin.umich.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id MAA27419; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:38:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:38:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Tim D. Strong" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >My Setup: > > MHZ Combo Card > Fixed IP for Etehernet > Dynamic IP for ISP/Modem bank > >What happens: > > At Home, uses the dialup PPP by default. > At Work, tries to dial but I cancel twice and it then continues >to >connect >to our net. > >Check Bindings, And advanced setting for default protocol is selected for >whichever one you want to be the default. I work at home and at work at my university as a GSRA What you have is my setup as well. Except why does your's try to dial when you are at work?... Mine doesn't. When I'm at home I have to explicity use the connect to icon that appears for the universiy. When I set up the internet options and the machine asked if I had a direct connection or a dialup connection I answered that I would make my own connections (It was the third option). Seems like it would be alot less anoying than hitting cancel all the time. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 11 13:17:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA236348277; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:17:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22074; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:11:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:03:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21348; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:03:45 -0500 Received: from psa.pencom.com (psa.pencom.com [204.217.199.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21329; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:03:38 -0500 Received: from psisa.com (psisa.com [204.217.199.13]) by psa.pencom.com (PSA/nope) with SMTP id MAA10267; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:03:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:03:22 -0600 (CST) From: Rick Tait X-Sender: rickt@psisa.com To: "Tim D. Strong" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I don't see what the problem is. I have Win95 on my TP755CX as well as the CJ3288 combo modem/ethernet, and I've never had these problems. I get my address at work (ethernet) via DHCP and I use PPP at home. I *don't* have any of my PPP DNS/routing/IP information in the Network control panel applet - all of that is in my PPP settings. I plug my laptop in at work, and he gets his IP address/information automatically. I see no difference to having it setup via DHCP or statically. It should still work. Each PPP connection has his own settings, and that shouldn't interfere with Ethernet. Oh, and don't even try to get the Megahertz combo working under NT 4.0. I gave up after five calls to Megahertz support and days (weeks?) of trying to get it going. I could either have the modem OR the ethernet configured at one time. I'm not talking getting the modem and ethernet WORKING (ie, online) at the same time, I'm just talking about having the modem 'available' (ie, seen by the system) when my ethernet was configured. And vice-versa. .rickt -- main(v,c)char**c;{for(v[c++]="Rick Tait \n)";(!!c)[*c] &&(v--||--c&& execlp(*c,*c,c[!!c]+!!c,!c));**c=!c)write(!!*c,*c,!!**c);} On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Tim D. Strong wrote: > > >My Setup: > > > > MHZ Combo Card > > Fixed IP for Etehernet > > Dynamic IP for ISP/Modem bank > > > >What happens: > > > > At Home, uses the dialup PPP by default. > > At Work, tries to dial but I cancel twice and it then continues > >to > >connect > >to our net. > > > >Check Bindings, And advanced setting for default protocol is selected for > >whichever one you want to be the default. > > I work at home and at work at my university as a GSRA > > What you have is my setup as well. Except why does your's try to > dial when you are at work?... Mine doesn't. When I'm at home I have > to explicity use the connect to icon that appears for the universiy. > > When I set up the internet options and the machine asked if I had a > direct connection or a dialup connection I answered that I would make my > own connections (It was the third option). Seems like it would be alot less > anoying than hitting cancel all the time. > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 11 13:37:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA238459455; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:37:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24114; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:33:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:31:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23891; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:31:16 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23884; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:31:12 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id NAA19999; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:32:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:32:29 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Reply-To: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Followup: Active matrix pixels dying Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I posted here describing how two pixels on my TP701C's active matrix display had (mostly) turned blue. I got a few replies, two of which said the pixels were most likely in the process of becoming stuck. One of these messages said that when his display was doing this, sometimes he could make it disappear by pressing on the screen nearby. I tried this, and found that if I pushed towards the left, both pixels would turn blue (whereas before it was one or the other). Conversely, pushing the screen towards the right made them both disappear. As you can guess, I tried pushing harder, enough to maybe reseat the TFT within the case. It seems to have worked - I have not seen either pixel get stuck in the last two weeks. I have no idea why this works, or what's going on... -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 11 16:43:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA268670612; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:43:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11716; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:39:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:34:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11197; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:34:49 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11161; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:34:41 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id NAA19530; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:33:32 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.Cadence.COM via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma850340011.019520; Wed Dec 11 13:33:31 1996 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (annex-sj4-17.cadence.com [158.140.31.27]) by cds9258.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA21654; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:33:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:33:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612112133.NAA21654@cds9258.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: Don Perley Subject: Re: 755cx power adapter question Cc: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:02 AM 11/28/96 -0800, karensw@halcyon.com wrote: >It's that big adaptor hanging off of the wall plug that bugs me. Some of my >wall outlets are high enough that the adaptor is dangling and not resting on >the floor; seems heavy enough to pull the plug out of the wall one of these >days. In other words, I too am interested in a more efficient ac adaptor cord. You can always plug a full length cord into the PS. Some people leave one permanently on their desk so they don't have to crawl underneath everytime they want to plug something in. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 11 19:07:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA293769272; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:07:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25356; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:05:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:01:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24910; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:01:14 -0500 Received: from irc.intergate.bc.ca (root@irc.intergate.bc.ca [207.34.179.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24904; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:01:10 -0500 Received: from ve7fet (pm9s21.intergate.bc.ca [205.206.194.126]) by irc.intergate.bc.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08186 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:09:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961211160017.006968f8@pop.intergate.bc.ca> X-Sender: ve7fet@pop.intergate.bc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:00:20 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Lee Woldanski Subject: Getting 33.6k Running on Thinkpads Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello all, good news, it appears that you can get the 33.6 Dynalink upgrade to run on IBM Thinkpad's Running either WIN95 or WIN3.1x. This has been tested on a TP755CE with WIN95 and a TP760CD with WIN3.11. Installation instructions follow. ---------------- Update... I've been told that the installation program may work if you manually expand the .inf file and replace the .inf file in the c:\windows\inf directory. I have not tested this to see if it works or not and i am not sure if there is anything else you need to do to get the installation program to run. Might be worth a try cause it would save doing all the stuff below. Also, I have found that from time to time the Mwave modem crashes when I try to disconnect from my dialup in win95. Not sure what the cause is, possibly a bug in the beta drivers, you lose sound and everything and have to reboot to get it back. -------------- General: You must be running the newest Mwave Drivers for Thinkpads, v2.22. Get the Dynalink 33.6k upgrade from the following address: http://www.netcnct.net/business/6bit/links/ Create a temporary directory and put the 33k6up.exe file into it. Run the 33k6up.exe file and it will expand itself into that directory. Now the setup program with the upgrade won't run on a TP so you have to expand files manually, the good news is that you don'n need all of them. Delete all of the files EXCEPT: MWMLOADW.DL_ MWMMSGW.DL_ MWMPARSW.DL_ ASYNC.DS_ MNP.DS_ MODEM.DS_ V34.DS_ V42.DS_ MWMWIN.EX_ EXPAND.EXE Now, expand all of the filename.??_ files using the expand program, cut and paste the following into a batch file to make your life easier: -----start batch here---- EXPAND MWMLOADW.DL_ MWMLOADW.DLL EXPAND MWMMSG.DL_ MWMMSG.DLL EXPAND MWMPARSW.DL_ MWMPARSW.DLL EXPAND ASYNC.DS_ ASYNC.DSP EXPAND MNP.DS_ MNP.DSP EXPAND MODEM.DS_ MODEM.DSP EXPAND V34.DS_ V34.DSP EXPAND V42.DS_ V42.DSP EXPAND MWWIN.EX_ MWWIN.EXE ----end batch here---- Delete all of the files ending in *.??_ as well as the expand.exe file. WIN95 instructions: First off, it might be a good idea to backup all of the following files: Everything in your C:\MWW and C:\MWW\MODEM directories (zip them all into one file is easiest) The following files in your C:\WINDOWS directory: MWAUDIO.INI, MWAVE.INI, MWCONTD.INI, MWMWIN.INI The MWMDM430.INF file in the hidden C:\WINDOWS\INF directory. Copy all of the files in your temporary directory into the C:\MWW\MODEM directory and replace all of your old files with these newer ones. Uninstall the mwave modem from the Device Manager by clicking on it and clicking REMOVE. Using a text editor change the following: In the MWMDOS.INI file in the C:\MWW directory: Under [VERSIONS], OEM=Thinkpad to OEM=Thinkpad 33.6 Under [FEATURES], add the line V334EM=1 <---special thanks to Joshua Hosseinof for this Under [STARTUP], SPEED=28800 to SPEED=33600 In the MWCONFIG.INI file in the C:\MWW directory: Under [NativeDOS], Default=28.8kModem to Default=33.6kModem In the MWAVE.INI and the TESTWAVE.INI files in the C:\MWW directory: Under [Mwave,Board] you can increase the ips= value up to somewhere around 25000000 In the MWMWIN.INI file in the C:\WINDOWS directory: Under [VERSIONS], OEM=Thinkpad to OEM=Thinkpad 33.6 Under [FEATURES], add the line V334EM=1 Under [STARTUP], SPEED=28800 to SPEED=33600 In the MWMDM430.INF file in the C:\WINDOWS\INF (hidden) directory: Under [STRINGS], MwaveModem = "Thinkpad 28.8 Data Fax VOD Modem" to MwaveModem = "Thinkpad 33.6 Data Fax VOD Modem" And that's it. Do a cold reboot of the system and WIN95 should detect your new Thinkpad 33.6 Data Fax VOD Modem! The Mwave Modem program should also see the modem as 33600 and the v34 setting should also have changed to 33.6. WIN3.11 instructions: Upgrade to WIN95 and follow the above instructions (just kidding, here we go): First off, it might be a good idea to backup all of the following files: Everything in your C:\MWW and C:\MWW\MODEM directories (zip them all into one file is easiest) The following files in your C:\WINDOWS directory: MWAUDIO.INI, MWAVE.INI, MWCONTD.INI, MWMWIN.INI Copy all of the files in your temporary directory into the C:\MWW\MODEM directory and replace all of your old files with these newer ones. Using a text editor change the following: In the MWMDOS.INI file in the C:\MWW directory: Under [VERSIONS], OEM=Thinkpad to OEM=Thinkpad 33.6 Under [FEATURES], add the line V334EM=1 <---special thanks to Joshua Hosseinof for this Under [STARTUP], SPEED=28800 to SPEED=33600 In the MWCONFIG.INI file in the C:\MWW directory: Under [NativeDOS], Default=28.8kModem to Default=33.6kModem In the MWAVE.INI file in the C:\MWW directory: Under [Mwave,Board] you can increase the ips= value up to somewhere around 25000000 In the MWMWIN.INI file in the C:\WINDOWS directory: Under [VERSIONS], OEM=Thinkpad to OEM=Thinkpad 33.6 Under [FEATURES], add the line V334EM=1 Under [STARTUP], SPEED=28800 to SPEED=33600 And that's it. Do a cold reboot of the system and you should have a Thinkpad 33.6 Data Fax VOD Modem! The Mwave Modem program should also see the modem as 33600 and the v34 setting should also have changed to 33.6. As far as I can tell, this all works. Since the drivers are only a beta release there may be some glitches that pop up. Hopefully things will work well. Enjoy, Lee - Lee Woldanski, Grad Tech., Telecommunications Technologist, VE7FET - Email: ve7fet@intergate.bc.ca - Secretary, B.C.F.M.C.A., Operating 6 repeaters at 3500 feet: VE7RPT 146.940,224.300,443.525,1291.940,VE7RAG 147.020,VE7LAN 145.070 - Employer: BC Tel Systems Support, Burnaby, BC, CANADA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 12 08:03:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA077895795; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 08:03:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29408; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 08:01:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:55:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28921; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:55:29 -0500 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28911; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:55:24 -0500 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA27854 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:55:23 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA850402522; Thu, 12 Dec 96 06:47:05 CST Date: Thu, 12 Dec 96 06:47:05 CST Encoding: 6 Text Message-Id: <9611128504.AA850402522@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: XJ10BT on TP755CD with Win95. Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Have been trying for a whole day to get this megahertz XJ10BT ethernet card to be rocognized by this system. It shows up under Controlpanel\system\devices, but has a yellow exclamation point after it. Under PCMCIA in Control panel it shows up fine. Whats the catch? Anybody using this configuration? The XJ10BT worked fine under win31. Do I need service pack installed? Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 12 14:46:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA134780016; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:46:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04138; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:31:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:21:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03025; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:20:58 -0500 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02995; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:20:46 -0500 Received: from CLAUDIA ([129.126.232.4]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA11654 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:19:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199612121919.AA11654@kodakr.kodak.com> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:17:00 -0500 From: "King, Randall" Subject: Megahertz Combo cards again... To: thinkpad X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu OK, I have seen a few mail notes about what a nightmare it is to configure the Ethernet*Modem combo cards from Megahertz in a Windows 3.1/DOS environment. I can now feel your pain. I have found that non-ESS systems (ie-750, 360, 755CX) are a snap to set up. Set the LAN irq to 5 and away it goes. However, all of the systems that use the ESS sound have irq 5 locked, and that is the problem. I was reading through the documentation, and it states that BOTH the LAN and Modem irq's must be below 8 or above (???), and that is the source of the problem. Has anyone had any sucess in setting up the combo cards on a 365X, or a 760EL? I am still messing around with the IRQ's, but haven't gotten it working yet. Has anyone summarized what they did to get it working? If I can figure it out, I will post a How-To on it. RK rjking@kodak.com ps- Windows 95 has the settings of 5 for the ESS irq, and 15 for the LAN irq. Hmmmm...... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 12 15:36:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA146282976; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:36:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09000; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:20:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:18:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08610; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:18:28 -0500 Received: from public.nfld.com (root@public.nfld.com [198.165.106.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08600; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:18:24 -0500 Received: from terry-p--ibm- (ts02-p09.remote.nfld.com [198.165.106.170]) by public.nfld.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA07613; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:47:52 -0330 Message-Id: <199612122017.QAA07613@public.nfld.com> From: "Terry Parrell" To: "Tim D. Strong" , Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:52:42 -0300 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I guess I wasn't as clear as I thought. It asks to dialup when I click on the Netscape/Explorer icon. Explorer/Netscape tries to connect via its default connection which in my case is the dialup! Otherwise I would have to make the connection first and then run explorer. clear as Mud TP ---------- > From: Tim D. Strong > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: dynamic dialup vs fixed ethernet IP in win95? > Date: December 11, 1996 2:38 PM all the time. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 13 12:21:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA005777705; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:21:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19216; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:17:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:06:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17717; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:06:12 -0500 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17703; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:06:04 -0500 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA14373; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:05:57 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA850503955; Fri, 13 Dec 96 11:03:21 CST Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 11:03:21 CST Encoding: 18 Text Message-Id: <9611138505.AA850503955@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Subject: Re: XJ10BT on TP755CD with Win95. Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks for your replies. Using the mhzwin95.exe file fixed this problem. By following the prompts on their web site I could not find this file though. Had to use their search box and enter the file name. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: XJ10BT on TP755CD with Win95. Author: at Gateway Date: 12/12/96 6:47 AM Have been trying for a whole day to get this megahertz XJ10BT ethernet card to be rocognized by this system. It shows up under Controlpanel\system\devices, but has a yellow exclamation point after it. Under PCMCIA in Control panel it shows up fine. Whats the catch? Anybody using this configuration? The XJ10BT worked fine under win31. Do I need service pack installed? Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 13 12:59:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA012239979; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:59:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22844; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:57:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:55:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22641; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:55:44 -0500 Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22622; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:55:39 -0500 Received: from poppy.demon.co.uk ([158.152.35.157]) by relay-6.mail.demon.net id aa629101; 13 Dec 96 17:33 GMT From: Peter Goddard To: Don Perley Cc: karensw@halcyon.com, Paul Rubin , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mmdf-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at relay-7.mail.demon.net Subject: Re: 755cx power adapter question Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:32:35 GMT Organization: Poppy Films Message-Id: <32b38421.3220630@post.demon.co.uk> References: <199612112133.NAA21654@cds9258.Cadence.COM> In-Reply-To: <199612112133.NAA21654@cds9258.Cadence.COM> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:33:28 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >At 11:02 AM 11/28/96 -0800, karensw@halcyon.com wrote: > >>It's that big adaptor hanging off of the wall plug that bugs me. Some = of my >>wall outlets are high enough that the adaptor is dangling and not = resting on >>the floor; seems heavy enough to pull the plug out of the wall one of = these >>days. In other words, I too am interested in a more efficient ac = adaptor cord. > >You can always plug a full length cord into the PS. Some people leave = one >permanently on their desk so they don't have to crawl underneath = everytime they >want to plug something in. > >-Don Perley >perley@cadence.com > I have one of these adapters for my TP755CE, I seem to remember a picture from IBM coming with it, the picture showed the funny short cord with a big tick against it and a long cord with an emphatic red cross against it. I assumed long cords were not allowed ( can't think why though). Can anyone confirm or deny this, I'm sick of the short one's as well regards pete -- "All good quotes eventually | pete@poppy.demon.co.uk appear in Newsgroups" | or pete@poppyfilms.co.uk Oskar Wild From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 13 17:59:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA059897968; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:59:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20419; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:57:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:49:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19529; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:49:12 -0500 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19523; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:49:07 -0500 From: Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA25686 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:48:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:48:36 -0500 Message-Id: <961213174835_1007052579@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: MWave version 4.00.950 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is the above captioned version of Mwave the current version? thank you Fred From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 14 08:54:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA156861648; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 08:54:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21521; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 08:48:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 14 Dec 1996 08:42:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21007; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 08:42:44 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21001; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 08:42:41 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA181834 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 13:42:34 GMT Message-Id: <199612141342.NAA181834@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip139-92-53-168.vi.at.ibm.net(139.92.53.168) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaEvYWzR; Sat Dec 14 13:42:32 1996 From: "Siegfried Hanisch" To: "ThinkPad mailing list" Date: Sat, 14 Dec 96 14:12:56 +0200 Reply-To: "Siegfried Hanisch" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Siegfried Hanisch's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PCMCIA-CDROM Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi! Does anyone have experience using the IBM PCMCIA CD-ROM drive (the "stereo" one) under OS/2? Is it possible to install OS/2 from this drive? Can I play audio CDs through the Thinkpad speakers? I want to know if it works under OS/2 before I order it. Thanx! Greetings # Quick to judge Siegfried Hanisch # Quick to anger =====================================# Slow to understand siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net # Ignorance and prejudice ssaver@ibm.net (ScreenSaver support) # And fear =====================================# Walk hand in hand http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8925811/ # Rush - "Witch Hunt" PGP public key available # Team OS/2 # From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 14 13:05:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA179656742; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 13:05:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06510; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 13:04:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 14 Dec 1996 12:58:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05991; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 12:58:48 -0500 Received: from expert.cc.purdue.edu (jollymon@expert.cc.purdue.edu [128.210.10.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05985; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 12:58:44 -0500 Received: (from jollymon@localhost) by expert.cc.purdue.edu (8.8.3/8.7.3) id MAA18797 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 12:58:35 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Sethi Message-Id: <199612141758.MAA18797@expert.cc.purdue.edu> Subject: unsubscribe To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad mail list) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 12:58:34 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu unsubscribe -- ******************************************************************************* Jason Sethi Purdue University Senior in EE jollymon@expert.cc.purdue.edu sethi@ecn.purdue.edu URL:cernan.ecn.purdue.edu/~sethi ******************************************************************************* From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 14 22:52:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA024351972; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 22:52:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02703; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:36:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:32:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02253; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:32:53 -0500 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02247; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:32:51 -0500 Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-219-94.ny.us.ibm.net [166.72.219.94]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA14171; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:32:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:31:48 -0500 () From: Joshua Hosseinof To: Fredmmill@aol.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: MWave version 4.00.950 In-Reply-To: <961213174835_1007052579@emout12.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Sender: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu No, thats the version of Windows 95 you're using, latest Mwave is 2.22. On Fri, 13 Dec 1996 Fredmmill@aol.com wrote: > Is the above captioned version of Mwave the current version? > > thank you > > Fred > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 14 22:58:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA024782284; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 22:58:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26236; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:23:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:16:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25732; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:16:53 -0500 Received: from cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us (cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us [198.109.120.98]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25726; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:16:50 -0500 Received: from escribaj.mlc.lib.mi.us (libpc129.det.hfh.edu [150.198.248.129]) by cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us (8.7.3/Merit) with ESMTP id SAA16435 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:16:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612142316.SAA16435@cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us> From: "Joseph Escribano" To: "ThinkPad listserv" Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE: How? Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:15:51 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu After seeing countless messages erroneously sent to a list rather than the listserv/majordomo, I find that I too have to ask the list how to unsubscribe. :( I tried sending to listserv@cs.utk.edu, got an error message then I sent a request to majodomo@cs.utk.edu. I ran LISTS and got only lists starting with the letter "B". I also did WHICH which didn't list me as belonging on any lists but as recently as a few minutes ago, I'm still receiving mail. Help! I'm leaving on vacation for a few weeks and have faithfully unsub'd on all lists except this one, 'cause I can't. Sorry, please reply directly to me and not the list. Joe |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Joseph Escribano Coordinator-Department Computer Systems | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Sladen Library & Center for Health Information Resources | | Henry Ford Health System Detroit, Michigan USA | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 15 10:44:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA086404658; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 10:44:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23963; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 10:43:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 15 Dec 1996 10:37:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23473; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 10:37:53 -0500 Received: from tiger.avana.net (tiger.avana.net [205.245.133.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23465; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 10:37:46 -0500 Received: from atl209.avana.net by tiger.avana.net; (5.65/1.1.8.2/30Apr96-1201PM) id AA13207; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 10:37:36 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961215153736.0069fdf4@tiger.avana.net> X-Sender: lrj@tiger.avana.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 10:37:36 -0500 To: "Joseph Escribano" From: Lew Jansen Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE: How? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Try reading the header of every message that comes through the listserver. At the bottom, you'll find a line that says: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a "standard" convention -- admin requests to a mailing list should be sent to "listname-REQUEST@listaddress.whatever" -- Lew At 06:15 PM 12/14/96 -0500, you wrote: >After seeing countless messages erroneously sent to a list rather than the >listserv/majordomo, I find that I too have to ask the list how to >unsubscribe. :( ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lew Jansen lrj@avana.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 15 22:19:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA161276370; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:19:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03917; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:11:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:00:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02857; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:00:16 -0500 Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02825; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:00:06 -0500 Received: from falkor (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.2/8.8.2-biteme) with SMTP id UAA01246 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 20:59:44 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199612160259.UAA01246@Kitten.mcs.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ron Heiby" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 20:53:15 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: 755cx power adapter question Reply-To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have read that the reason for not allowing the long cord has something to do with FCC approval. I use longer power cords leading up to that power supply all the time. Much more convenient to have a long cord from the outlet to top of desk than having to crawl under the desk every time I come or go. Ron. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 15 22:44:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA163977867; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:44:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06113; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:43:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:39:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05684; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:39:10 -0500 Received: from access.cn.camriv.bc.ca (access.cn.camriv.bc.ca [206.12.129.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05677; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:39:04 -0500 Received: from [206.12.129.11] by access.cn.camriv.bc.ca id 9c580.wrk; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:34:56 PDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19961215193923.006d92b0@access.cn.camriv.bc.ca> X-Sender: Pat.Presidente@access.cn.camriv.bc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 3 (32) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:39:45 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Pat Presidente Subject: 755 Power cord Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I Have always used longer power cords - one permanently plugged in at my office at work, and one at home. It has never caused a problem and makes things very convenient. The small power cord remains in my computer bag for when I am away on trips - never need to worry about forgetting to bring one. Pat ===========================================================================| O _ | Pat Presidente District Technology Resource Teacher| |_-/_| | Pat_Presidente@sd72.bc.ca SD 72 425 Pinecrest Road | | | | Ph 250-830-2353 Fx 250-830-2329 Campbell River, B.C. V9W 3P2 | ===========================================================================| | "Well you know I could have me a million more friends | | And all I'd have to lose is my point of view" -John Prine | ===========================================================================| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 16 08:40:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA234993620; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:40:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18361; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:39:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:34:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17811; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:33:59 -0500 Received: from Owl.nstn.ca (owl.nstn.ca [137.186.128.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17799; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:33:55 -0500 Received: from innovacorp.ns.ca (nsrfc5.innovacorp.ns.ca [192.75.101.5]) by Owl.nstn.ca (8.8.2/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA10078 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:33:53 -0400 (AST) Received: from hines.innovacorp.ns.ca by innovacorp.ns.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13875; Mon, 16 Dec 96 09:34:15 AST Message-Id: <9612161334.AA13875@innovacorp.ns.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Sandy Hines" Organization: InNOVAcorp To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:33:03 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: TP in Hong Kong / Beijing Reply-To: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I will be travelling to Beijing and Hong Kong in the new year and will be bringing my TP 760 ED with me. Are there problems with power , 220V and the standard power adapter. It says it will run on 220 but reality is sometimes not what the "manufacturer" thinks it is. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks Sandy Alexander (Sandy) Hines Marketing and Sales Manager Engineering Serices @ InNOVAcorp Nova Scotia Innovation Corporation 101 Research Drive PO Box 790 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, B2y 3Z7, Canada Phone: 902 424 8670 ext. 155 800 565 7051 Fax: 902 465 7384 Email: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca WWW http://www.innovacorp.ns.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 16 09:02:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA237334959; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:02:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20063; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:00:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:56:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19776; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:56:27 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19764; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:56:23 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA09061; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 06:58:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199612161358.GAA09061@aspen.wwsi.com> To: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP in Hong Kong / Beijing In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:33:03 -0400." <9612161334.AA13875@innovacorp.ns.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 06:58:52 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've had no trouble running my Thinkpad anywhere in the world (Germany, France, Japan). Cheers, ssh-- Steve Hultquist Business, system, network, and Internet Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Engineering Boulder, Colorado, USA 303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 16 11:22:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA258353346; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:22:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04007; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:19:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:09:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02924; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:09:44 -0500 Received: from demeter.leftbank.com (sneaker.net [192.31.227.142]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02917; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:09:41 -0500 Received: (from kenyee@localhost) by demeter.leftbank.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03401; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:09:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:09:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612161609.LAA03401@demeter.leftbank.com> From: Ken Yee To: etw3@columbia.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <32A60E30.4A11@columbia.edu> (message from Eric Wong on Wed, 04 Dec 1996 18:50:08 -0500) Subject: Re: Thinkpad keyboard/mouse connector Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > solution. Belkin Components in Comptom, CA actually make an equivalent > component for a much more reasonable price. I am using it now and it > works great! Just thought I passed the word. What's the price and contact info? thanks, ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 16 13:51:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA285192294; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:51:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19359; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:48:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:43:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18820; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:43:10 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18802; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:43:05 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id NAA15124 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:39:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0280; Mon, 16 Dec 96 13:40:48 -0800 Message-Id: <9612162140.AA0280@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 00024F2844A8031F852564020064F4E2; Mon, 16 Dec 96 13:40:47 EDT To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 16 Dec 96 13:25:26 EDT Subject: usr sportster pigtails X-Lotus-Type: Memo w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu i know this isn't thinkpad-specific, but i'm in a real crunch. i need a few usr sportster pigtails for the old style sportsters ("old" meaning six months old, before the three white dots). anyway, i've found them in a few places, but none are in stock and i need a couple right away. i usually pay $15-$20 each, but i'll pay twice that if i have to, if anyone knows where i can get one overnighted. thanks in advance. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ ------------------------------- Although I can accept talking scarecrows, lions and great wizards of emerald cities, I find it hard to believe there is no paperwork involved when your house lands on a witch. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 17 02:09:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA091536562; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 02:09:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20287; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 02:08:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 17 Dec 1996 02:02:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19857; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 02:02:25 -0500 Received: from chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.120]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19847; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 02:02:20 -0500 Received: (from steverod@localhost) by chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) id XAA23183; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 23:02:09 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Rodrigues Message-Id: <199612170702.XAA23183@chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: Re: TP in Hong Kong / Beijing To: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 23:02:08 -0800 (PST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9612161334.AA13875@innovacorp.ns.ca> from "Sandy Hines" at Dec 16, 96 09:33:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu FWIW, I have used by 701 in Singapore, Thailand, and Karnataka state, India, with no problems (beyond the power going out :). This was with the standard "cigarette pack" adapter shipped with the 701. Good luck on your trip! Steve Sandy Hines wrote: > I will be travelling to Beijing and Hong Kong in the new year and > will be bringing my TP 760 ED with me. Are there problems with power > , 220V and the standard power adapter. It says it will run on 220 > but reality is sometimes not what the "manufacturer" thinks it is. > Any tips would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Sandy -- Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 17 03:07:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA098690060; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 03:07:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA23645; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 03:04:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 17 Dec 1996 03:01:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA23319; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 03:00:58 -0500 Received: from access.kuwait.net (root@[194.54.234.234]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA23303; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 03:00:41 -0500 Received: from dial094.kse.kuwait.net(really [194.54.236.94]) by access.kuwait.net via sendmail with smtp id for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:59:34 +0300 (GMT) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #16 built 1996-Aug-3) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:59:34 +0300 (GMT) X-Sender: brownac@kuwait.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: AC Brown Subject: Re: TP in Hong Kong / Beijing Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Assuming that you have the "universal" power supply which operates automaticallyy over the range 110-240 VAC & 50-60 Hz (and not the 110VAC power supply furnished with some Thinkpads in North America), you should have no trouble. I've used 750C and 755CD Thinkpads with the universal supply in Hong Kong, Europe, and the Middle East. Also, I've used a Compaq with a similar universal supply in Beijing, Nanjing, Shanghai, Guangzhou (Canton), Singapore, and Malaysia. You will need either an adapter for the local power outlets so that you can plug your power cord into the wall or a cord with a local power plug on one end and a US type computer socket on the other, but you can generally obtain these wherever you are. If you have the universal supply, you will not need a stepdown transformer. Hope this helps. AC Brown -------- At 09:33 1996-12-16 -0400, you wrote: >I will be travelling to Beijing and Hong Kong in the new year and >will be bringing my TP 760 ED with me. Are there problems with power >, 220V and the standard power adapter. It says it will run on 220 >but reality is sometimes not what the "manufacturer" thinks it is. >Any tips would be appreciated. > >Thanks > >Sandy > >Alexander (Sandy) Hines >Marketing and Sales Manager >Engineering Serices @ InNOVAcorp >Nova Scotia Innovation Corporation >101 Research Drive PO Box 790 >Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, B2y 3Z7, Canada >Phone: 902 424 8670 ext. 155 > 800 565 7051 >Fax: 902 465 7384 >Email: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca >WWW http://www.innovacorp.ns.ca > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 17 10:44:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA150117451; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:44:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01198; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:42:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:37:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00677; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:37:30 -0500 Received: from ankur.bellcore.com (ankur.bellcore.com [192.4.7.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00663; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:37:26 -0500 Received: from ankur (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ankur.bellcore.com (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA05241 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:37:21 -0500 Sender: hira@bellcore.com Message-Id: <32B6BE2D.446B9B3D@bellcore.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:37:18 -0500 From: Hiralal Agrawal Organization: Bellcore X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Problem with Video Features Diskette on 760CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone had any luck installing the video features diskette (version 1.10, dated 10/3/96, instructions dated August 16, 1996) for Windows 95 on a Thinkpad 760CD? Installation instructions for the same say that one of the following entries should appear in the Display Control Panel after you click on the "Have Disk..." button: Cyber9385 for the enhanced video model Cyber9320 for the standard video model But I do not get either of these entries. Instead, I get the following: Cyber 9320 VL, and Cyber 9385/82 VL I have tried both, but they both end up screwing up my display. I have to switch back to Trident Super VGA to get the display to work. Under Trident SuperVGA, however, I can get at most 256 colors. But I want to be able to get more. Am I doing something wrong while installing the video features diskette? Any pointers/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Hira. hira@bellcore.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 17 17:24:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA215511436; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:23:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07778; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:17:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:12:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07208; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:12:40 -0500 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07198; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:12:33 -0500 Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (actually rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Tue, 17 Dec 1996 19:20:45 +0100 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BBEC4F.5B1CB480@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 19:20:25 +0100 Message-Id: <01BBEC4F.5B1CB480@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: Axel Hartmann To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: stepdown transformer, was: TP in Hong Kong / Beijing Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:27:27 +0100 Encoding: 41 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu 'llo there, >Singapore, and Malaysia. You will need either an adapter for the local >power outlets so that you can plug your power cord into the wall or a cord >with a local power plug on one end and a US type computer socket on the >other, but you can generally obtain these wherever you are. If you have >the universal supply, you will not need a stepdown transformer. careful with step-down transformers! there are two kinds - one for "simple stuff" like water heaters, hair driers, and such. these put out 110V, but very spiky voltage. don't use these for electronic equipment. i trashed my power supply for my zip-drive using one of these here in germany. it worked for a day and a half, and died just before i could copy my thesis to my hard drive. luckily only the power supply died - the drive works with the new, german power supply. now i have two zip drives and only one power supply. i'm just glad that i have a parallel and a scsi now - even more universally universal! also note that most step-down transformers that i saw in the states have european-style prongs, but sockets in europe are also recessed, so that you need an additional plug-converter. and if you want to keep the two transformers from overheating each other, it may be wise to put another plugadapter between them. makes for nice plug-towers and very unreliable electrical connections considering the quality of most of the plug-adapters... fried once, axel ....................................................................... . Axel Hartmann . . Paper : Blumenstr. 15; 76133 Karlsruhe; Germany . Voice : [0|xx49] 721 - 27115 . . E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . ....................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 17 17:35:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA218812148; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:35:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07046; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:10:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:05:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06442; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:05:43 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06431; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:05:39 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA27495 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:05:28 +1100 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) id JAA02388; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:05:27 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:05:22 +1100 (EST) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: tft display testing Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu anyone have a pointer to a little program to test for malfunctioning pixels on a tft screen? i guess it would address each pixel row by row, turning on and off red, green, blue, then all on, all off. or, better yet, all red on, all green on, all blue on, all on, all off. thanks, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 18 04:34:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA025331696; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 04:34:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04907; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:38:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:33:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04350; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:33:55 -0500 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04344; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:33:52 -0500 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA19916; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:36:09 -0800 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:36:09 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Parker To: Alden S Klovdahl Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tft display testing In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Alden S Klovdahl wrote: > anyone have a pointer to a little program to test for malfunctioning pixels > on a tft screen? i guess it would address each pixel row by row, turning on > and off red, green, blue, then all on, all off. or, better yet, all red on, > all green on, all blue on, all on, all off. Now that's silly.. =) All you need to do is change the screen color to all white to check for pixels not turning on, then all black to test for ones not turning off. If you don't see any spots that are not all white or all black then it is fine. The human eye is very good at spotting things like this. Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 18 06:05:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA038627140; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:05:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05824; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:04:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:00:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05397; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:00:55 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05387; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:00:52 -0500 Received: from us027545.interramp.com (mailmule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.191]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA33224 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:00:46 GMT Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:00:46 GMT Message-Id: <199612181100.LAA33224@mule0.mindspring.com> X-Sender: bytehead@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: tft display testing Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:36 PM 12/17/96 -0800, you wrote: > >On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Alden S Klovdahl wrote: > >> anyone have a pointer to a little program to test for malfunctioning pixels >> on a tft screen? i guess it would address each pixel row by row, turning on >> and off red, green, blue, then all on, all off. or, better yet, all red on, >> all green on, all blue on, all on, all off. > > Now that's silly.. =) > > All you need to do is change the screen color to all white to check for >pixels not turning on, then all black to test for ones not turning off. >If you don't see any spots that are not all white or all black then it is >fine. The human eye is very good at spotting things like this. Alas, I wish it were that simple. I have a few pixels on my 760C that work great on certain colors (blue comes to mind) and on a black background, but fail on red or remain blue. One pixel is partially stuck, and it will flicker under blue only, but is fine everywhere else. A program, as described above, would be great for picking out pixels that do not fail in a on/off-->white/black situation. ------------------------------------------------------------- | Mark Bell |"A sufficient quantity of delusions | |800 College Drive #126 |constitutes a valid reality, while a| | Vineland, NJ 08360 |lack of an appreciable amount of | | 609-327-5994 |reality constitutes a delusion" | | bytehead@mindspring.com| | ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 18 10:00:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA068481211; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 10:00:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20987; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:58:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:54:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20417; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:54:12 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20404; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:54:07 -0500 Received: from belial-50.d.enteract.com (belial-50.d.enteract.com [207.112.154.59]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA00170 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:54:02 -0600 (CST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tft display testing Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:55:41 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32bd04fe.13777749@smtp.enteract.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Awright, awready! Sheesh, guys, I'd've thought someone else would chip in by now. There's a program called Chkpxls for this. You can ftp it = from my site at ftp.enteract.com/epbrown. =20 HTH, epbrown On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:05:22 +1100 (EST), you wrote: " "anyone have a pointer to a little program to test for malfunctioning = pixels "on a tft screen? i guess it would address each pixel row by row, = turning on "and off red, green, blue, then all on, all off. or, better yet, all red = on, "all green on, all blue on, all on, all off. " "thanks, al " " Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 = 25 " Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT = Australia 0200=20 " epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 18 11:37:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA081667076; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:37:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29287; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:36:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:30:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28662; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:30:34 -0500 Received: from isomedia.com (mail.isomedia.com [204.157.237.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28656; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:30:30 -0500 Received: from billprat (pm1-030.isomedia.com [206.129.160.62]) by isomedia.com (8.6.10/8) with ESMTP id IAA16727; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:28:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199612181628.IAA16727@isomedia.com> From: "Bill Pratt" To: "epbrown" , Subject: Re: tft display testing Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:27:52 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu After running this program I had one pixel die. No problems before. Apparently the program did not like being run from windows and caused the screen to get stuck on one color. Caution...only run if you absolutely must...and then only under DOS. Bill Pratt, Bellevue, WA "No matter where you go...there you are"! billp117@isomedia.com http://www.isomedia.com/homes/billp117 ---------- From: epbrown To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tft display testing Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 6:55 AM Awright, awready! Sheesh, guys, I'd've thought someone else would chip in by now. There's a program called Chkpxls for this. You can ftp it from my site at ftp.enteract.com/epbrown. HTH, epbrown On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:05:22 +1100 (EST), you wrote: " "anyone have a pointer to a little program to test for malfunctioning pixels "on a tft screen? i guess it would address each pixel row by row, turning on "and off red, green, blue, then all on, all off. or, better yet, all red on, "all green on, all blue on, all on, all off. " "thanks, al " " Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 " Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 " epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown ---------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 18 14:39:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA111347945; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:39:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15082; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:35:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:29:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14051; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:29:50 -0500 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14026; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:29:41 -0500 Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (actually rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:27:50 +0100 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BBED11.22DDAA80@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:27:33 +0100 Message-Id: <01BBED11.22DDAA80@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: Axel Hartmann To: "'Mark Bell'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: tft display testing Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:03:04 +0100 Encoding: 54 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu 'llo there, >>> anyone have a pointer to a little program to test for malfunctioning pixels >>> on a tft screen? i guess it would address each pixel row by row, turning on >>> and off red, green, blue, then all on, all off. or, better yet, all red on, >>> all green on, all blue on, all on, all off. >> >> Now that's silly.. =) i remember using a shareware/pd-program a while back called winCRT or somethingCRT for windows (3.x). it let you test distortion for "real" CRT's, and one of the options was screen all green, red, or blue, and varying shades of white/grey. sounds like that's what you're looking for. for a quick hack, take paintshop pro, capture a piece of white screen, e.g. alt-PrtSrcn with a window that has a lot of white, then ctrl-v in paintshop, and crop everything else... resize it to your screen resolution, and show it in full screen. then change the colors by "color|rgb" and removing colors as needed, e.g.: for a red picture, change green and blue -100%, leave red. then shift-f for full screen... quite happy with dual-scan, axel >> >> All you need to do is change the screen color to all white to check for >>pixels not turning on, then all black to test for ones not turning off. >>If you don't see any spots that are not all white or all black then it is >>fine. The human eye is very good at spotting things like this. > > >Alas, I wish it were that simple. I have a few pixels on my 760C that work >great on certain colors (blue comes to mind) and on a black background, but fail >on red or remain blue. One pixel is partially stuck, and it will flicker under >blue only, but is fine everywhere else. A program, as described above, would >be great for picking out pixels that do not fail in a on/off-->white/black >situation. ....................................................................... . Axel Hartmann . . Paper : Blumenstr. 15; 76133 Karlsruhe; Germany . Voice : [0|xx49] 721 - 27115 . . E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . ....................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 18 16:25:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA129834300; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:25:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25089; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:22:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:12:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24048; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:12:18 -0500 Received: from gw.navio.com (proxy@gw.navio.com [204.182.38.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24042; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:12:15 -0500 Received: (from proxy@localhost) by gw.navio.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA21364; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:11:51 -0800 Received: from george.navio.com(204.182.38.152) by tvsoft.com via smap (V1.3) id sma021354; Wed Dec 18 13:11:27 1996 Message-Id: <32B85D6B.1434@navio.com> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:08:59 -0800 From: "George S. Kong" Reply-To: george@navio.com Organization: Navio Communications, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Bell Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, George Kong Subject: Re: tft display testing References: <199612181100.LAA33224@mule0.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > >> anyone have a pointer to a little program to test for malfunctioning pixels > >> on a tft screen? > > All you need to do is change the screen color to all white to check for > >pixels not turning on, then all black to test for ones not turning off. > Alas, I wish it were that simple. I have a few pixels on my 760C that work > great on certain colors (blue comes to mind) and on a black background, but fail > on red or remain blue. each pixel in an lcd screen has 3 independent components: red, green, and blue. (if you look with a magnifying glass, you can see the individual components) any component of any pixel can become "stuck on" or "stuck off". to test for stuck-ons, make your screen black and look for non-black pixels. to test for stuck-offs, make your screen red and look for black pixels, then make it green and look for black pixels, then make it blue and look for black pixels. you can set the screen color either by changing the windows background or by running the paint program and filling the page with a solid color. theoretically, you shouldn't have to do red, green, and blue separately, since making the screen white turns them all on together, and any non-white pixel has a problem. but it turns out that one pixel with one missing component is hard to see against a white background, especially if that component is red or blue. since differences in green have a far greater impact on our visual system, problems with green components are much more noticeable than problems with red or blue components. i used a laptop with several blue stuck-offs and a red stuck-off for several years, without ever noticing them in everyday use. i now have a laptop with one green stuck-on, and i notice it all the time. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- George S. Kong, Navio Communications, Inc., george@navio.com, 408-328-9312 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 18 16:44:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA139125495; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:44:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26993; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:41:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:37:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26516; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:36:57 -0500 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@morgana.punk.net [204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26510; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:36:52 -0500 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA20799; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:38:38 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:38:36 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Parker To: Axel Hartmann Cc: "'Mark Bell'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: tft display testing In-Reply-To: <01BBED11.22DDAA80@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Axel Hartmann wrote: > i remember using a shareware/pd-program a while back > called winCRT or somethingCRT for windows (3.x). > it let you test distortion for "real" CRT's, and > one of the options was screen all green, red, or blue, > and varying shades of white/grey. Those should work. > for a quick hack, take paintshop pro, capture a piece of > white screen, e.g. alt-PrtSrcn with a window that > has a lot of white, then ctrl-v in paintshop, and crop > everything else... > resize it to your screen resolution, > and show it in full screen. > then change the colors by "color|rgb" and removing > colors as needed, e.g.: > for a red picture, change green and blue -100%, leave red. > then shift-f for full screen... The faster way in Paint Shop Pro [why capture anything?] is to hit New, tell it what size you want it to be, then fill the whole thing with the paint bucket in whatever color you want. Done.. =) Temporarily changing the color schemes in Windows or OS/2 [or most any GUI] can get you the same thing with what you already have handy. I don't personally have a Thinkpad yet, but am saving for a TP560-120MHz [maybe 133MHz] and 32MB mem module and will have it in 2 months. I can't stand to buy anything on credit. I musta been raised funny. =) Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 18 18:59:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA164103550; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:59:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08112; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:57:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:52:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07272; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:52:14 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07257; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:52:11 -0500 Received: from beelzebub-42.d.enteract.com (beelzebub-42.d.enteract.com [207.112.154.146]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA04123 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:20:19 -0600 (CST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tft display testing Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:22:09 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32c05ef0.29665312@smtp.enteract.com> References: <199612181628.IAA16727@isomedia.com> In-Reply-To: <199612181628.IAA16727@isomedia.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry to hear that, but I've run the thing under DOS 6.22, DOS 7.0, Windows 3.11 and 95 with no problems. I got it from CompuServe = originally and from AOL this morning and have never heard of it damaging a display. It would have to blow out a transistor to kill a pixel, which I haven't heard of happening before. I guess you're sure it wasn't dead already = and you didn't notice? That's kind of what the program is for, after all. = You might want to try the undocumented "fix" of pressing gently on the = display over the dead pixel.=20 epbrown On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:27:52 -0800, you wrote: "After running this program I had one pixel die. No problems before.=20 "Apparently the program did not like being run from windows and caused = the "screen to get stuck on one color. Caution...only run if you absolutely "must...and then only under DOS. =20 " "Bill Pratt, Bellevue, WA ""No matter where you go...there you are"! "billp117@isomedia.com "http://www.isomedia.com/homes/billp117 " epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 19 12:51:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA276697860; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:51:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01753; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:50:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:43:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01110; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:43:04 -0500 Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu (merle.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01098; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:43:01 -0500 Received: from [129.105.76.29] by merle.acns.nwu.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA005497375; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:42:55 -0600 X-Sender: bberry@merle.acns.nwu.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:42:47 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Berry Subject: Xfree86 config file for 365XD? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone set up X windows for Linux on their 365XD (or a Thinkpad with the Trident Cyber 9320 video card) and can share their config file with me? ******************************************************************************** Bill Berry Program Assistant Records Department Office of Undergraduate Admission 1801 Hinman Avenue Evanston, IL 60208 Phone: 847-467-1918 Email: w-berry@nwu.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 20 11:55:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA173190900; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:55:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16288; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:53:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:45:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15608; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:45:38 -0500 Received: from atlas.corp.mei.com (atlas.mis.mei.com [151.186.47.172]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15592; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:45:34 -0500 Received: from nickdo.mis.mei.com (nickdo.mis.mei.com [151.186.47.91]) by atlas.corp.mei.com (NTMail 3.02.10) with ESMTP id ra003683 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:45:43 -0600 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Nick Rushizky" Organization: Marquette Medical Systems To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:45:45 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: TP 560 / NT4 / Video Problem Reply-To: Nick@atlas.mis.mei.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-Id: <16454332800469@corp.mei.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I cannot for the life of me figure out why this thing will not go for more than 16 colors! I can make it full screen size, but the driver from IBM's site won't even help the system.. and this is supposed to be a box for my sales weenies to use to demonstrate stuff. Help! Any ideas? I'm afraid to try a 95 driver on NT4, unless someone else has managed to do it, especially since 16 colors is better than a hosed system - and I don't have the time today to wipe and reset NT. TIA, Nick Rushizky Nick Rushizky ---> nick@atlas.mis.mei.com Marquette Medical Systems PC Support Help Desk All opinions are my fault only. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 20 12:31:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA177953089; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:31:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19803; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:30:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:26:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19293; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:26:26 -0500 Received: from Owl.nstn.ca (owl.nstn.ca [137.186.128.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19279; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:26:19 -0500 Received: from innovacorp.ns.ca (nsrfc5.innovacorp.ns.ca [192.75.101.5]) by Owl.nstn.ca (8.8.2/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA03667 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:26:16 -0400 (AST) Received: from by innovacorp.ns.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB01253; Fri, 20 Dec 96 13:26:39 AST Message-Id: <9612201726.AB01253@innovacorp.ns.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Sandy Hines" Organization: InNOVAcorp To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:25:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: direct X video drivers and TP760ED Reply-To: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have recieved from a friend a game that requires "Direct X" drivers in order to run properly. I have sucessfully dowloaded the drivers from Activision but hesitate to install them on this machine. Disaster just before holidays is not scheduled nor needed. Anyone have experience with these drivers on a TP?? Am I just being paranoid about installing them? Thanks in advance Sandy Alexander (Sandy) Hines Marketing and Sales Manager Engineering Serices @ InNOVAcorp Nova Scotia Innovation Corporation 101 Research Drive PO Box 790 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, B2y 3Z7, Canada Phone: 902 424 8670 ext. 155 800 565 7051 Fax: 902 465 7384 Email: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca WWW http://www.innovacorp.ns.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 20 12:48:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA180604120; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:48:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20901; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:46:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:41:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20448; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:41:54 -0500 Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [15.253.72.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20439; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:41:51 -0500 From: Received: from boi118.boi.hp.com (boi118.boi.hp.com [15.56.8.42]) by palrel1.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA11044; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from by boi118.boi.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.4 Openmail) id AA151493759; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:42:39 -0800 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 09:42:05 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9612201726.AB01253@innovacorp.ns.ca> Subject: Re: direct X video drivers and TP760ED Mime-Version: 1.0 To: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've had no problems using the Direct X and Direct X 2 drivers from Microsoft on my TP 760C Richard Hamel ------------------ Hewlett Packard Network Server Division Santa Clara, CA USA ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: direct X video drivers and TP760ED Author: Non-HP-shines (shines@innovacorp.ns.ca) at HP-Boise,mimegw18 Date: 12/20/96 8:25 AM I have recieved from a friend a game that requires "Direct X" drivers in order to run properly. I have sucessfully dowloaded the drivers from Activision but hesitate to install them on this machine. Disaster just before holidays is not scheduled nor needed. Anyone have experience with these drivers on a TP?? Am I just being paranoid about installing them? Thanks in advance Sandy Alexander (Sandy) Hines Marketing and Sales Manager Engineering Serices @ InNOVAcorp Nova Scotia Innovation Corporation 101 Research Drive PO Box 790 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, B2y 3Z7, Canada Phone: 902 424 8670 ext. 155 800 565 7051 Fax: 902 465 7384 Email: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca WWW http://www.innovacorp.ns.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 20 13:01:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA182144895; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:01:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21700; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:59:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:55:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21418; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:55:14 -0500 Received: from mailsrv.cdf.toronto.edu (root@marvin.cdf.toronto.edu [128.100.31.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21393; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:55:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by marvin.cdf.toronto.edu with SMTP id <4348>; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:54:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:54:55 -0500 From: "Richard L.F. Yuen" Sender: "Richard L.F. Yuen" Fake-Sender: g4yuen@eddie To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: direct X video drivers and TP365XD In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm having problems with my Direct X drivers for Red Alert. I've updated the video drivers from IBM's homepages and it still doesn't work Currently I can play the game in DOS at 300x400 but in Win95 it just displays a black screen moving the mouse revels the terrain but it screws up after a while. Sound works fine in both cases though. any suggestions Richard #include #include /*****************************************************************************\ *Beware the pale horse and Richard Yuen * *on it was a rider and he was University of Toronto 9TX X->7 * *called Death.And Hell followed Faculty of Arts&Science(SW ENG) * *behind him. g4yuen@cdf.toronto.edu * \*****************http://cdf.toronto.edu/~g4yuen/personal.html****************/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 20 15:09:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA206102594; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:09:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01548; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:08:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:04:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01040; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:04:05 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01033; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:03:57 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA09500; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:03:23 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199612202003.PAA09500@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: direct X video drivers and TP365XD To: g4yuen@cdf.toronto.edu (Richard L.F. Yuen) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:03:22 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: from "Richard L.F. Yuen" at Dec 20, 96 12:54:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I'm having problems with my Direct X drivers for Red Alert. I've > updated the video drivers from IBM's homepages and it still doesn't work > > Currently I can play the game in DOS at 300x400 > but in Win95 it just displays a black screen moving the mouse revels the > terrain but it screws up after a while. > > Sound works fine in both cases though. > > any suggestions I'm running Red Alert (in the few spare moments I have, anyway) on my ThinkPad 760C, and I found that I could avoid the problem you observe by running the supplied "Red Alert Win95 Edition Setup" program, and making sure the following settings are checked: 640x480 pixels (not sure if this one is required) Allow hardware filled blits and leaving the other fields unchecked/blank. I arrived at this via experimentation, and my results are somewhat at odds with the supplied documentation, but it seems to work. BTW, I'm using the most recent ThinkPad video drivers for the 760C, and have only played on an external monitor. Hope this helps. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 20 15:12:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA206412767; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:12:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01976; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:12:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:08:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01444; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:08:04 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01421; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:07:58 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA09664; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:06:17 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199612202006.PAA09664@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: direct X video drivers and TP760ED To: RICHARD_HAMEL@non-hp-santaclara-om3.om.hp.com Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:06:17 -0500 (EST) Cc: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: from "RICHARD_HAMEL@non-hp-santaclara-om3.om.hp.com" at Dec 20, 96 09:42:05 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I've had no problems using the Direct X and Direct X 2 drivers from > Microsoft on my TP 760C The "Red Alert" game uses DirectX 3.0, and seems to pose some problems for the 760C. More details are in another message I just posted to the list. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 20 15:36:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA211274161; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:36:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04435; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:35:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:30:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03718; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:30:56 -0500 Received: from bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (root@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca [199.185.130.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03689; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:30:51 -0500 Received: from LANCEN (usr93@[199.185.130.90]) by bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (8.7.4/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA21090 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:01:55 -0700 (MST) Received: by LANCEN with Microsoft Mail id <01BBEE79.B80F8920@LANCEN>; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:28:42 -0700 Message-Id: <01BBEE79.B80F8920@LANCEN> From: Lance Nichols To: "ThinkPad Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: IBM Docking II Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:28:37 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, in my daily quest to make my ThinkPad a better machine to use = everyday (and to make use of some SCSI hardware and some ISA networking = cards) I am looking for a Dock II docking station "for sale, cheap". I = own a ThinkPad 701CS and have a line on the required adapter.... Also, if anyone could tell me about their experiences running a 701 = ThinkPad on the Dock II... Lance Nichols Technical Support Analyst, Compusmart Edmonton The views expressed here in no way reflect the views of Compusmart. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 21 15:31:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA030390280; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 15:31:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26952; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 14:21:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 21 Dec 1996 14:14:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26440; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 14:14:14 -0500 Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [208.131.56.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26427; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 14:14:07 -0500 Received: from marc.disquiet.com (dnai-140-174-167-27.dialup.dnai.com [140.174.167.27]) by mail.calweb.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA04238 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:11:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <32BC36B9.7F41@disquiet.com> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:12:57 -0800 From: Marc Weidenbaum Reply-To: marc@disquiet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: (701) that fragile bit over the pccard slot References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Any ideas how to replace that fragile sliver of plastic over the pcmcia slot? -- Marc Weidenbaum marc@disquiet.com http://www.disquiet.com marc_weidenbaum@citysearch.com http://www.citysearch7.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 22 01:32:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA116086372; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 01:32:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03974; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 01:32:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 22 Dec 1996 01:26:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03712; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 01:26:43 -0500 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk ([144.82.100.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03706; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 01:26:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199612220626.BAA03706@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from camelot (actually host camelot.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sun, 22 Dec 1996 06:18:57 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 06:14:09 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Thinkpad 750Cs hard drive upgrade 340 MB ==> 720 MB Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I upgraded my TP750Cs tonight from 340 MB to 720 MB using an IBM OEM Model DB0A-2720 (1400 Cyl, 16 Hd, 63 Sec/Tr) drive (FDISK claims it is 688.04 MB -- DIR after FORMAT shows 720+ MB available space. Now, I made the mistake of making the entire drive one partition -- so the cluster size is 16384 bytes. Could someone send me a table breaking down partition size vs cluster size -- so I might subdivide my disk optimally to avoid having a bunch of tiny files allocated in area with huge cluster size. I have in mind making a small partition #1 containing minimal 32 MB DOS6.22, Windows 3.1, IBM Card Services, and Adaptec EZ-SCSI with Backup Basics. I'll boot from this partition for system backups and restores. This should save enormous amount of time which is otherwise wasted rebuilding these items to just to restore backup from tape to another disk partition. This would have the added advantage of maintaining my directory of backup tape contents so I don't have to rescan a tape to catalog it before restoring it. Partition #2 would be the main partition for smaller programs containing many small files -- the partition size would be set to generate small cluster size. Partition #3 would be for large programs, testing or portable development using sytems like Win95/WinNT + MS C++ Professional, OS/2 with IBM C++, linux, etc. Cheers, Alexander From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 22 02:25:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA124959540; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:25:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06011; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:25:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:20:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05728; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:19:58 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05722; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:19:55 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id CAA07020; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:23:27 -0500 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:23:27 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: "Alexander J. Annala" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 750Cs hard drive upgrade 340 MB ==> 720 MB In-Reply-To: <199612220626.BAA03706@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sunday, 22nd December 1996, Alexander J. Annala wrote: > I upgraded my TP750Cs tonight from 340 MB to 720 MB... > Now, I made the mistake of making the entire drive one > partition -- so the cluster size is 16384 bytes. Could > someone send me a table breaking down partition size vs > cluster size -- so I might subdivide my disk optimally > to avoid having a bunch of tiny files allocated in area > with huge cluster size. The FAT cluster size follows powers-of-two MB: partition size cluster size -------------- ------------ up to 32 MB 512 B 64 MB 1 KB 128 MB 2 KB 256 MB 4 KB 512 MB 8 KB 1 GB 16 KB 2 GB 32 KB (In this list, 1 KB = 1024 B; 1 MB = 1024 KB; and 1 GB = 1024 MB.) Regarding your partitioning plan, I'd make the first one 64 MB rather than 32 MB (to allow for extra typefaces, memory managers, &c.). Your third one should probably stay below 512 MB; that would leave your second one in the 256 MB category. > Partition #3 would be for large programs, testing or > portable development using sytems like Win95/WinNT + > MS C++ Professional, OS/2 with IBM C++, linux, etc. Note that the cluster sizes above apply only to FAT file systems; the Linux file system and NTFS have "cluster"- type structures that aren't dependent on the size of their respective partitions. I don't know which behavior HPFS exhibits. Happy partitioning! Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 22 02:38:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA126690279; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:37:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06651; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:37:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:33:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06406; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:33:33 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06400; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:33:29 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com ([206.83.112.115]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA05447; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 00:36:32 -0700 Message-Id: <32BCE40E.3F5A@wwsi.com> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 00:32:30 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Carey Cc: "Alexander J. Annala" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 750Cs hard drive upgrade 340 MB ==> 720 MB X-Priority: Normal References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Note that while all this is true, you might want to pick up Partition Magic. It will allow you to change the cluster size to optimize space. Check out the info at http://www.powerquest.com/ Just a happy customer. It's saved my bacon a bunch of times! ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 22 11:04:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA193350649; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:04:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08560; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:03:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:57:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07863; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:57:03 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07849; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:57:01 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-d-52.usc.edu [128.125.222.124]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id HAA05044; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 07:56:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961222073930.006ac64c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 07:57:18 -0800 To: Lance Nichols From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: IBM Docking II Cc: "ThinkPad Mailing List (E-mail)" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:28 PM 12/20/96 -0700, Lance Nichols wrote: >Hi, in my daily quest to make my ThinkPad a better machine to use everyday (and to make use of some SCSI hardware and some ISA networking cards) I am looking for a Dock II docking station "for sale, cheap". I own a ThinkPad 701CS and have a line on the required adapter.... > >Also, if anyone could tell me about their experiences running a 701 ThinkPad on the Dock II... Is that even possible? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 22 11:33:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA197192405; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:33:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08593; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:03:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:57:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07903; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:57:20 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07890; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:57:16 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-d-52.usc.edu [128.125.222.124]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id HAA05061; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 07:57:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961222074941.006ac64c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 07:57:22 -0800 To: Steve Hultquist From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Thinkpad 750Cs hard drive upgrade 340 MB ==> 720 MB Cc: Christian Carey , "Alexander J. Annala" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:32 AM 12/22/96 -0700, Steve Hultquist wrote: >Note that while all this is true, you might want to pick up Partition >Magic. It will allow you to change the cluster size to optimize space. >Check out the info at http://www.powerquest.com/ > >Just a happy customer. It's saved my bacon a bunch of times! I'll add my recommendation to Steve's. For about $50, this is a software program that can save you HOURS of pain. However, about that cluster size thing--Partition Magic can't magically make your clusters smaller (on a normal FAT system). It *will* "suggest" a parition size more suited to the data contained on that particular partition which will optimize the slack loss by going to a partition size/cluster size combination that is best for the data/size of files on that partition. I can't say enough about Partition Magic though--who'd have thought you could change partition sizes on the fly without destroying data contained thereon?! Its beautiful. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 22 11:34:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA197462446; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:34:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08644; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:04:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:57:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07902; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:57:20 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07889; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:57:16 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-d-52.usc.edu [128.125.222.124]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id HAA05053; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 07:56:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961222074525.006ac64c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 07:57:20 -0800 To: "Alexander J. Annala" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Thinkpad 750Cs hard drive upgrade 340 MB ==> 720 MB Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 06:14 AM 12/22/96 -0800, Alexander J. Annala wrote: >I upgraded my TP750Cs tonight from 340 MB to 720 MB using >an IBM OEM Model DB0A-2720 (1400 Cyl, 16 Hd, 63 Sec/Tr) >drive (FDISK claims it is 688.04 MB -- DIR after FORMAT >shows 720+ MB available space. > >Now, I made the mistake of making the entire drive one >partition -- so the cluster size is 16384 bytes. Could >someone send me a table breaking down partition size vs >cluster size -- so I might subdivide my disk optimally >to avoid having a bunch of tiny files allocated in area >with huge cluster size. Offhand, I don't recall the exact table, but... At around the 512 MB, your cluster size slips into 16K--otherwise, its 8K all the way down to about 250 MB, at which point below that its 4K. From 512-ish to a touch over 1 GB, its that 16K--over that 1 GB size (I think the exact is 1024 MB) you're suddenly in the 32K cluster range--ouch! Your partitioning scheme seems like a neat plan, but personally, I think it would be a PITA--I'm all for saving space lost to big cluster sizes, but I'd prefer to minimize the number of drives too. Your mileage may vary, but if it were me, I'd partition into two--you pick the sizes, but 8K clusters is about as reasonable as it gets while still maintaining decent HD partition sizes. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 22 12:52:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA208527139; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 12:52:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15029; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 12:51:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 22 Dec 1996 12:46:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14732; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 12:46:27 -0500 Received: from moondance.np.ac.sg (moondance.np.ac.sg [153.20.24.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14726; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 12:46:21 -0500 Received: (uucp@localhost) by moondance.np.ac.sg (8.7.1/8.7.1) id BAA08803 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:40:45 GMT Received: from 93202707@mercury.np.ac.sg(153.20.24.81) by moondance.np.ac.sg via smap (V1.3) id sma008799; Mon Dec 23 01:40:36 1996 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:46:04 +0800 (SGT) From: Loke Teng Yan <93202707@mercury.np.ac.sg> X-Sender: 93202707@mercury Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: AC and Battery Power Management In-Reply-To: <32c05ef0.29665312@smtp.enteract.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I have a 760ELD, and just starting to learn how to use it. I have a question on power management. The User's Guide states, to get the best out of the lithium ion battery, I should, among other measures, not use the machine while it is charging. Now, wouldn't that be incovenient, and why can't I use it charging? Similarly, is there any problem if I were to use the AC adapter even after the battery has been fully charged? Thnaks for any comments. Teng Yan Loke aka Cow | lokety@post1.com | finger 4 PGP key | Quake Electronic & Computer Engr. Ngee Ann Polytechnic Singapore | HP100LX | OS/2 => MW2/Myst/SC2K/Relentless Infopages ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 22 17:19:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA242313140; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:19:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28665; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:15:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:08:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28134; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:08:46 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28127; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:08:43 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA14653 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:08:03 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199612222208.RAA14653@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: TP701C...DX2-50 or DX4-75? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:08:03 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I am looking to buy a 701C and would like your comments... The question I have is about the differences between the DX2-50 and DX4-75 models. Assuming identical configurations aside from the CPU, Am I really going to see a substantial speed improvement by going with the DX4? And does the DX4 model have a shorter battery life (presumably due to the CPU drawing more current)? Does it run hotter? Thanks in advance, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 22 19:48:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA261112113; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:48:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07393; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:48:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:42:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07021; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:42:46 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07014; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:42:43 -0500 Received: from beelzebub-69.d.enteract.com (beelzebub-69.d.enteract.com [207.112.154.173]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA16018 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 18:42:39 -0600 (CST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701C...DX2-50 or DX4-75? Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:44:42 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32c5d464.16883925@smtp.enteract.com> References: <199612222208.RAA14653@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> In-Reply-To: <199612222208.RAA14653@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:08:03 -0500 (EST), you wrote: "I am looking to buy a 701C and would like your comments... "The question I have is about the differences between the DX2-50 and "DX4-75 models. Assuming identical configurations aside from the CPU, "Am I really going to see a substantial speed improvement "by going with the DX4? And does the DX4 model have a shorter battery "life (presumably due to the CPU drawing more current)? Does it run "hotter? Well, I've owned both. My first system was the DX2-50, which I sold to upgrade to the DX4-75 with a larger drive and 4MB of RAM (the DX4s come with 8MB on the motherboard, the DX2s only start with 4MB). I ran both side by side, usually swapping my drive between the two, and ran Wintune = on both. Basically, the system is so slow, compared to other similarly configed desktops and laptops, that there's almost no perceptible difference between the two. I'm still glad I got the larger drive and = that smidgen of RAM when I bought my 2nd one, but in terms of performance = things seem no snappier. Of course, in terms of resale value this will mean something. ;-) epbrown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 22 22:20:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA291221255; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 22:20:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16225; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 22:20:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 22 Dec 1996 22:15:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15733; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 22:15:06 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15708; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 22:14:55 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA17787 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:14:45 +1100 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) id OAA12566; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:14:43 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:14:35 +1100 (EST) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: thinkpad 760 with NT In-Reply-To: <199612181100.LAA33224@mule0.mindspring.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu are the new thinkpad 760's with NT preloaded coming with anything more than the appropriate drivers and powermangment functionalitiy? in other words, will it be possible to retrofit what's coming in the new tp760 NT to earlier 760's? thanks, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 23 07:11:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA059733075; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:11:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20002; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:11:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:05:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19546; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:05:35 -0500 Received: from sunset.ma.huji.ac.il (sunset.ma.huji.ac.il [132.64.32.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19529; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:05:29 -0500 Received: (from hart@localhost) by sunset.ma.huji.ac.il (8.6.11/8.6.10) id OAA11007 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:05:31 +0200 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:05:31 +0200 From: Sergiu Hart Message-Id: <199612231205.OAA11007@sunset.ma.huji.ac.il> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 560 + megahertz combo Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu [] i am getting a thinkpad 560 next week, and i want to get a megahertz combo (modem/fax - ethernet). i saw some messages saying there are problems with this combination. is that so? thanx. bye, --sergiu-- ---------------------------------------------- home page: http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~hart ---------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 23 10:29:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA085354975; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:29:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01424; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:28:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:23:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00964; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:23:33 -0500 Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00936; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:22:52 -0500 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 2bbfd3e0; Sat, 21 Dec 96 10:07:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:06:18 -0500 Message-Id: <2bbfd3e0@doblegate.doble.com> Subject: Re[2]: Thinkpad 750Cs hard drive upgrade 340 MB ==> 720 MB To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, Partition Magic does a good job. They have a new version out that handles NTFS better and adds handling of Win95 FAT32 partitions. On my system I formatted on partition as FAT and it contains the windows/dos stuff. The rest of the drive is for OS/2 and it is formatted HPFS. HPFS does not have cluster problems. HPFS and NTFS are designed for large harddrives. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 24 03:45:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA241087114; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 03:45:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06674; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 03:44:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 24 Dec 1996 03:34:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05900; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 03:33:59 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05894; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 03:33:56 -0500 Received: from cartan.hawaii.edu (cartan.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA13487; Mon, 23 Dec 96 22:33:14 HST Received: by cartan.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA06458; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 22:34:20 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199612240834.WAA06458@cartan.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: TP701C...DX2-50 or DX4-75? To: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 96 22:34:18 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199612222208.RAA14653@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu>; from "Dave Ahn" at Dec 22, 96 5:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu One place where the 3x chip will outperform the 2x chip is number crunching. Normally, a laptop isn't a number crunching machine, of course, but this might slow down some communications as well (e.g., you're running Netscape with the IFS image rendering plugin...) On the other hand, the extra bucks might be better spent on more memory. - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 24 12:25:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA009278304; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:25:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11823; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:24:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:20:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11421; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:20:20 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US ([132.151.1.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11412; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:20:14 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa12302; 24 Dec 96 12:21 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA00659; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:18:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:18:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199612241718.MAA00659@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> From: Ken Manheimer To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Restoring DOS/Win3.1 Card Services for TP701cs? Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US X-Mailer: VM 5.96 (beta) / 19.14 XEmacs Lucid Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm looking to obtain card services for my thinkpad 701c dos/windows side, and am wondering where/how to go about it. This is probably a naieve question, but i mostly use unix, and am in less than familiar territory particularly when it comes to dos/windows os/hardware configuration. Quite a while back i wiped out and reestablished dos and windows on my thinkpad, as part of a harddisk reconfigure and linux install. I did make floppy backups so i could resurrect the stuff, but it seems like that only included the dos, windows, and os/2 base components. Over time i've picked up or reconstructed some of the useful extras, like faxworks from the ibm ftp site 'mobiles' directory, but i don't seem to be able to find any leads on resurrecting "card services". I gather that the backups don't include the thinkpad "extras", particularly the c:\thinkpad directory where autodrv.sys is supposed to be found? (I have found the 701c_sas.exe, which contains all the thinkpad-distribution .ini files, but of course the entries for the drivers are useless without the drivers...) Anyway, i looked all over http://www.pc.ibm.com for a place to pick up card services, to no avail. The 701_tips.txt identifies a number of files: IBMDSS01.SYS DOS PCMCIA Socket Services Driver 1.35 04-05-95 14888 IBMDOSCS.SYS DOS PCMCIA Card Services Driver 2.21 04-17-95 29535 DICRMU01.SYS DOS PCMCIA Resource Map Utility 1.16 12-01-94 10806 $ICPMDOS.SYS DOS PC Card Power Management Driver 2.22 12-01-94 4500 AUTODRV.SYS DOS PCMCIA PC Card Auto Configurator 1.09 11-11-94 13644 all of which are not found when i search the site. (I suspect they'be been retired, due to diminishing tp701 support.) I want all this because i recently got a 3Com etherlink III fast ethernet/modem card, and i have it working with my linux side of things, but it seems to need card services to be recognized on the dos/windows side. (I would like to use it with newly resurrected faxworks that i obtained from the ibm site, netcom netcomplete, etc.) Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks! Ken Manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us 703 620-8990 x268 (orporation for National Research |nitiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, VA 22091 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 24 13:34:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA020382475; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:34:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15833; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:34:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:30:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15625; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:30:21 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15614; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:30:18 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA166667; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:24:28 GMT Received: from ts023p12.pop3b.netvision.net.il(199.203.201.176) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaoZcDM2; Tue Dec 24 18:23:10 1996 Message-Id: <32C01FA5.4927@shani.net> Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 20:23:33 +0200 From: Eran Tromer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Sergiu Hart Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 560 + megahertz combo References: <199612231205.OAA11007@sunset.ma.huji.ac.il> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sergiu Hart wrote: > > i am getting a thinkpad 560 next week, and i want to get a megahertz > combo (modem/fax - ethernet). i saw some messages saying there are > problems with this combination. is that so? I'm using precisely this configuration. There are two problems I've encountered: - The bundled installation floppy failed to work. The drivers from the MHz site installed successfully, but only on 2nd attempt. - As with all X-Jacks, the RJ-11 phone jack blocks access to the 2nd PCMCIA socket when plugged in. Other than that, the card functions perfectly. Regards, Eran Tromer From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 25 03:40:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA131413240; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 03:40:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28671; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 03:40:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 25 Dec 1996 03:35:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27992; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 03:35:19 -0500 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk (mail-e.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27978; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 03:35:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199612250835.DAA27978@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-16.ucl.ac.uk by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 25 Dec 1996 08:35:03 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Thinkpad 750Cs hard disk upgrade questions Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 08:35:06 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I found it interesting that although the IBM DBOA-2720 drive is physically 1400CYL/16HD/63SECT it appears to be remapped (by TP750 BIOS?) to be a virtual 699CYL/32HD/63SECT drive -- which is rather nice for DOS because this stays within the 1024 cylinder limit of what DOS can handle on its own. Also for anyone considering this upgrade, this drive is so thin it does not fill the empty space in the caddy -- this may be good for air circulation -- but I think it also results in a bit more noise when the drive is running. While 720 MB was a nice upgrade from 340 MB, I am considering maybe spending a bit more (the store will take both the 720 MB drive and the 340 MB drive in trade at 2/3 of retail price) on 1,350 MB Toshiba MK1301MAV drive. This new disk would cost me about $195.00 US -- so it seems worthwhile on the surface. On the other hand, it is not an IBM drive. Has anyone put the MK1301MAV drive in a Thinkpad 750 notebook? Do you find that the drive is remapped so DOS thinks it is dealing with a drive containing less than 1024 cylinders? If you have 1,350 MB in a notebook, what do you do for backup? I have a SCSI card which I could use to backup to DAT or 8 MM at work, but it would be nice to have my own backup system. I really wonder what everyone else with large portable hard disk does for reliable backup. Road Warrier offers a $125.00 US box which you could put another IDE disk into -- but it uses the parallel port to do data transfers. How fast is parallel port on Thinkpads? 1.3 GB backup at low speed is not workable. Does anyone make a similar SCSI to IDE/EIDE box? Also, the Road Warrier solution tries to suck power from the keyboard port -- my previous experience with this kind of arrangement was with the original black and white quick cam -- the camera never saw enough power to function -- not a good indication of the amount of power available to run an external disk drive. Could someone tell me who sells empty IBM Thinkpad 750 caddys? I don't think there is an official IBM source, but I recall an advertisement some time ago about a company which makes them. Also, there were 170 MB IBM caddys available cheap at one time -- are they all gone? Alexander J. Annala, Ph.D. Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology University College London From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 25 03:40:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA131443241; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 03:40:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28687; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 03:40:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 25 Dec 1996 03:35:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27993; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 03:35:18 -0500 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk (mail-e.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27979; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 03:35:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199612250835.DAA27979@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-16.ucl.ac.uk by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 25 Dec 1996 08:35:06 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: TP750Cs vs Win95 -- WinNT - OS/2 -- linux Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 08:35:11 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Given the availability of relatively large amounts of low cost disk storage, I am wondering how realstic it might be to try running Win95, WinNT, OS/2, or linux in a separate disk partition? A year ago my personal machine was an ancient/old/aging 386DX-33/387/8MB/650MB/ET4000/WD8003e system. I ran DOS, Win3.1, OS.2 2.1, 386BSD, SCO UNIX, and WinNT (beta) on it. Most of these packages (sometimes with a little tuning ran just fine) -- WinNT ran like a dead pig (even after tuning -- but I had less than reasonable config for WinNT). Now I'm portable with a TP750Cs/486SL-33/12MB/720MB system. Disk is cheap enough I might upgrade again to 1,350MB disk. But, memory is still pretty dear, so upgrading to 20MB RAM is pretty unlikely for the moment. Mostly, I run office applications (MS Office [word, excel, powerpoint]), academic stuff (like sigmaplot, statistica, spss, sas, bmdp, bibliographic programs, oxford english dictionary), network applications (netscape, telnet, ftp), and (sequencher, rasmol, swiss prot, mfold, rna draw, dna strider), and a 68k macintosh emulator (ardi executor -- which is kinda nice because it turns my TP750Cs into a portable color macintosh -- like having two portables in one small package). Sometimes I do a bit of development or porting work (mostly trying to wedge mainframe code into small enough pieces to fit in the personal computer world). Currently I run just DOS 6.22/Win3.1. But, I think it may be nice to get back into a 32 bit enviroment to avoid the constant need to segment arrays into 64K pieces to keep the 16 bit operating system happy. OS/2 2.1 did a nice job for me almost two years ago. I wonder whether Win95, WinNT. or any other system might work as well in my limited notebook configuration? I could just go back to OS/2 for my own use. But it would be nice if other people could use my work -- and they mostly seem to be moving toward Win95. WinNT may be the recommended Win95 development environment. But, I'm afraid WinNT may require too much resource to be worthwhile. Perhaps Win95 / MS C++ 4.0 would be the best compromise for running existing programs and developing new ones. Many of the scientific packages I use are available for Win95/WinNT -- and are not practical to port to Win32s. What would you recommend? Thanks, Alexander J. Annala, Ph.D. Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology University College London From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 25 21:28:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA256317296; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:28:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27426; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:28:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:22:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26989; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:22:49 -0500 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26983; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:22:47 -0500 Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-219-141.ny.us.ibm.net [166.72.219.141]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA00954 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:22:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:21:59 -0500 () From: Joshua Hosseinof To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Looking for 170MB drive cheap Message-Id: Sender: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know where I can get a hold of one of these drives real cheap? I want to have a small hard drive just for running one or two Windows 3.1 programs which do not run under win95. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 25 22:09:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA260689753; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:09:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29690; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:09:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:05:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29451; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:05:18 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29436; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:05:14 -0500 Received: from belial-45.d.enteract.com (belial-45.d.enteract.com [207.112.154.54]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA19824; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:04:49 -0600 (CST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Restoring DOS/Win3.1 Card Services for TP701cs? Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 03:07:01 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32c1ea51.860747@smtp.enteract.com> References: <199612241718.MAA00659@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> In-Reply-To: <199612241718.MAA00659@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Here's what it says in the file for the mobiles directory, if you still haven't found this: PCTPX130.EXE 523195 07-24-95 PCMCIA dsk v1.3-ThinkPads except 760/365 According to the .doc file, this disk should cover PC functions for the 701 in DOS/Win. =20 HTH, epbrown On Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:18:35 -0500, you wrote: "I'm looking to obtain card services for my thinkpad 701c dos/windows "side, and am wondering where/how to go about it. This is probably a "naieve question, but i mostly use unix, and am in less than familiar "territory particularly when it comes to dos/windows os/hardware "configuration. " "Quite a while back i wiped out and reestablished dos and windows on my "thinkpad, as part of a harddisk reconfigure and linux install. I did "make floppy backups so i could resurrect the stuff, but it seems like "that only included the dos, windows, and os/2 base components. Over "time i've picked up or reconstructed some of the useful extras, like "faxworks from the ibm ftp site 'mobiles' directory, but i don't seem "to be able to find any leads on resurrecting "card services". I "gather that the backups don't include the thinkpad "extras", "particularly the c:\thinkpad directory where autodrv.sys is supposed "to be found? (I have found the 701c_sas.exe, which contains all the "thinkpad-distribution .ini files, but of course the entries for the "drivers are useless without the drivers...) " "Anyway, i looked all over http://www.pc.ibm.com for a place to pick up "card services, to no avail. The 701_tips.txt identifies a number of "files:=20 " "IBMDSS01.SYS DOS PCMCIA Socket Services Driver 1.35 04-05-95 = 14888 "IBMDOSCS.SYS DOS PCMCIA Card Services Driver 2.21 04-17-95 = 29535 "DICRMU01.SYS DOS PCMCIA Resource Map Utility 1.16 12-01-94 = 10806 "$ICPMDOS.SYS DOS PC Card Power Management Driver 2.22 12-01-94 = 4500 "AUTODRV.SYS DOS PCMCIA PC Card Auto Configurator 1.09 11-11-94 = 13644 " "all of which are not found when i search the site. (I suspect they'be "been retired, due to diminishing tp701 support.) " "I want all this because i recently got a 3Com etherlink III fast "ethernet/modem card, and i have it working with my linux side of "things, but it seems to need card services to be recognized on the "dos/windows side. (I would like to use it with newly resurrected "faxworks that i obtained from the ibm site, netcom netcomplete, etc.) "Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks! " "Ken Manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us 703 620-8990 x268 " (orporation for National Research |nitiatives " 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 " Reston, VA 22091 " epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 25 23:41:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA271755309; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 23:41:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04890; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 23:41:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 25 Dec 1996 23:37:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04508; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 23:37:45 -0500 Received: from megspo1.megsinet.net (megspo.megsinet.net [206.222.62.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04502; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 23:37:42 -0500 Received: from randolph2e5-16.megsinet.net ([206.222.63.112]) by megspo1.megsinet.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-11704) with SMTP id AAA149 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:38:58 -0600 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19961225223556.10bfe108@megspo.megsinet.net> X-Sender: chessie@megspo.megsinet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) Subject: EZSERV woes AGAIN! Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:38:58 -0600 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greetings all, its been some time since I got back to the list. My TP701C has been into repair a number of times: august-mid sept: Memory allocation errors,: Diagnosis replaced system board waited on parts for 2 weeks Recieved the machine and the machine wouldn't boot : Diagnosis: Power Board then IRda was out And now, the same symptoms as the power board have reappeared. Now I BABY this machine dreadfully, and have been most disturbed by the fact that in the last few months it seems to be at ezserv more than its here. I also agree that these incidences are relatively minor, but they all add up. My general feeling of reliability has diminished. If anyone has had similar experiences, please email me to tell me how your problems have been resolved and what advice you might have. TIA Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- chessie@megsinet.net pantazis@uiuc.edu You can still see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 26 01:00:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA281050004; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 01:00:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09265; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 00:59:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 26 Dec 1996 00:56:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09092; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 00:56:00 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09083; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 00:55:57 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA11921; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 00:54:51 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199612260554.AAA11921@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: TP750Cs vs Win95 -- WinNT - OS/2 -- linux In-Reply-To: <199612250835.DAA27979@CS.UTK.EDU> from "Alexander J. Annala" at "Dec 25, 96 08:35:11 am" To: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk (Alexander J. Annala) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 00:54:51 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Given the availability of relatively large amounts of low > cost disk storage, I am wondering how realstic it might be > to try running Win95, WinNT, OS/2, or linux in a separate > disk partition? I currently swap between two disks with my 750C. First has Linux and DOS/Win3.11, and the second has Win95 (rarely used now). It's easy to run multiple OS's in separate partitions so long as it is configured properly. > A year ago my personal machine was an ancient/old/aging > 386DX-33/387/8MB/650MB/ET4000/WD8003e system. I ran DOS, > Win3.1, OS.2 2.1, 386BSD, SCO UNIX, and WinNT (beta) on it. > Most of these packages (sometimes with a little tuning ran > just fine) -- WinNT ran like a dead pig (even after tuning > -- but I had less than reasonable config for WinNT). Linux/DOS/Win3.11/Win95 are zippy (for a 486-33) due to 12MB of RAM. I haven't tried OS/2 Warp, NT, or NextSTEP (though the boxes are sitting on my shelf), so I can't comment on any of those. > Now I'm portable with a TP750Cs/486SL-33/12MB/720MB system. > Disk is cheap enough I might upgrade again to 1,350MB disk. > But, memory is still pretty dear, so upgrading to 20MB RAM > is pretty unlikely for the moment. The used memory market for 750's is relatively cheap. 8MB IC-DRAM's go for $50, and 16MB's can be found (if rarely) for $100. I would rather go for 12->20MB RAM than a 720->1300MB disk upgrade. > Currently I run just DOS 6.22/Win3.1. But, I think it may > be nice to get back into a 32 bit enviroment to avoid the > constant need to segment arrays into 64K pieces to keep the > 16 bit operating system happy. I, being one of the more unusual laptop users, use Linux/X with my 750C almost exclusively. GCC, XEmacs, and LaTex are more than excellent substitutes for DOS/Windows equivalents for me, and I have yet to experience any kind of software or hardware failure under this configuration. I'm also very pleased with the kernel level PCMCIA and APM support. > OS/2 2.1 did a nice job for > me almost two years ago. I wonder whether Win95, WinNT. or > any other system might work as well in my limited notebook > configuration? I could just go back to OS/2 for my own use. > But it would be nice if other people could use my work -- > and they mostly seem to be moving toward Win95. WinNT may > be the recommended Win95 development environment. But, I'm > afraid WinNT may require too much resource to be worthwhile. I would discount WinNT altogether. I've read many threads on running NT on 755's and 760's on this mailing list, and while it probably is possible on the 750, I would expect the performance to be completely unacceptable, even with 40MB RAM. Not to mention the lack of overall laptop support in NT. You are definitely better off with Win95. If you truly plan to do extensive development work on the road, you may want to consider buying a faster laptop. If finance prohibits you, then a 16 or even 32MB IC-DRAM upgrade might be the way to go. > What would you recommend? Regards, Dave. > > Thanks, > > Alexander J. Annala, Ph.D. > Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology > University College London > -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 26 23:24:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA163070643; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 23:24:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27735; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 23:23:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 26 Dec 1996 23:17:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27217; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 23:17:39 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27193; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 23:17:34 -0500 Received: from beelzebub-44.d.enteract.com (beelzebub-44.d.enteract.com [207.112.154.148]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA27870 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 22:17:30 -0600 (CST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: DOS PC card drivers under Windows 95 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 04:19:46 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32ca4d59.13156618@smtp.enteract.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I need to access my pc card hard drive in DOS mode with Windows 95. Rebooting to DOS loses all the pc card drivers, and I'd like to load some under DOS. I've added the old 16-bit IBM drivers to my drive and written the proper config.dos, but it's looking like the only thing that'll work = is completely removing Windows PCMCIA drivers and going back to the PC Card director. Anyone know of a workaround? epbrown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 27 00:19:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA172373978; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:19:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01488; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:19:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:15:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01207; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:15:35 -0500 Received: from patty.loop.net (patty.loop.net [207.211.60.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01159; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:15:28 -0500 Received: from p22.hwts12.loop.net (p22.hwts12.loop.net [207.211.62.157]) by patty.loop.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA14767 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 21:14:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199612270514.VAA14767@patty.loop.net> X-Sender: howie@pop.loop.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 21:15:57 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Howard Subject: Re: Restoring DOS/Win3.1 Card Services for TP701cs? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is indeed the right file, (pctpx130.exe). I used it to replace the Card Services etc. that was already installed on my 701C after having trouble installing an Adaptec EZ-SCSI card. It is interesting to note that some of the files that install from the disk created by this file are actually *older* than those pre-existing on my 701. IBM told me that the 'proven' files were those from the pctpx130.exe file. By the way, can anyone offer any information about 'hot-swapping' under windows 3.11/dos? P.S. epbrown: I just read your latest post re: pc-card hard drive. Sorry, can't help you with that. At 03:07 AM 12/26/96 GMT, epbrown wrote: > Here's what it says in the file for the mobiles directory, if you still >haven't found this: > PCTPX130.EXE 523195 07-24-95 PCMCIA dsk v1.3-ThinkPads except 760/365 > > According to the .doc file, this disk should cover PC functions for the >701 in DOS/Win. > HTH, > epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 27 02:30:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA191501807; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 02:30:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07835; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 02:29:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 27 Dec 1996 02:25:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07468; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 02:25:11 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07460; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 02:25:07 -0500 Received: from belial-80.d.enteract.com (belial-80.d.enteract.com [207.112.154.89]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA28602 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 01:25:01 -0600 (CST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: DOS PC card drivers under Windows 95 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 07:27:17 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32c3786f.86671@smtp.enteract.com> References: <32ca4d59.13156618@smtp.enteract.com> In-Reply-To: <32ca4d59.13156618@smtp.enteract.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Never mind, I've got it. In Windows 95, you go into the Windows directory, scroll down to a shortcut called "exit to DOS", click on advanced and add the necessary drivers to the config.sys box (I cut and pasted them for the config.sys created when I installed the drivers). = When you click on the shortcut, it reboots you into DOS with the drivers = loaded. It doesn't recognize a compressed drive (I suspect the Win95-compressed drive is incompatible with IBM's 16-bit pc card drivers), but I can write and read to the drive now. Just for anyone else's FYI... epbrown On Fri, 27 Dec 1996 04:19:46 GMT, you wrote: " I need to access my pc card hard drive in DOS mode with Windows 95. "Rebooting to DOS loses all the pc card drivers, and I'd like to load = some "under DOS. I've added the old 16-bit IBM drivers to my drive and = written "the proper config.dos, but it's looking like the only thing that'll work= is "completely removing Windows PCMCIA drivers and going back to the PC Card "director. Anyone know of a workaround? " epbrown "epbrown@enteract.com "Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ "http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown " " epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 27 15:10:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA293737405; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 15:10:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29269; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 15:09:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 27 Dec 1996 15:04:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28791; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 15:04:51 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28785; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 15:04:49 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (d012003.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.12.3]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id OAA07594; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 14:04:44 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961227140436.00bd374c@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 14:04:37 -0600 To: "Alexander J. Annala" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Thinkpad 750Cs hard disk upgrade questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I put an MK1301MAV into my TP 755CD. It went very smoothly. I was worried that some jumper settings might mess up when using the original TP drive carrier, but it plugged right in and started working fine. I partitioned into two drives using standard FAT. One drive is right below 512M so the allocation units are 8K. The other is about 700+Meg, and the allocation units are 16K. I put my base system on the 512M partition, and I use the second partition for various work and archives. When I start running into problems with wasted space from big allocation units, and when I start running out of archive room on the second partition, I will compress it. That should remove any problems with allocation units, since it will turn the disk into one big file. At least that's the theory. Sometime, I will probably upgrade to the FAT32 to solve parts of this problem. I bought one of the Road Warrior bullet cases. I put my old 540M IBM drive into it. There were some initial glitches with setting up the parallel port interface (needed to use LPT2 rather than LPT1 in setup). But now it basically works. It is very slow. I use the 540M in the Bullet as my backup system. Using MS Backup with compression, I'm able to put all my info from my 2 partitions (now totalling about 450M of useful stuff) into a full backup file of about 230M. This takes about an hour to back up using the parallel port connection. It's faster than most tape drives but still pretty excruciating. My keyboard port (and in fact just about any of the PC keyboard ports I tried) doesn't supply enough for the Bullet drive. I found other 5V supplies around to do the job. I tried a third party caddy from a company called PS Solutions, but I found it didn't hold in tight enough to the TP connector, and that caused problems. I eventually returned it. The IBM caddy has the locking wire that holds it firmly in place. Thanks Mike Redmond ------------ At 08:35 AM 12/25/96 +0000, Alexander J. Annala wrote: >I found it interesting that although the IBM DBOA-2720 drive >is physically 1400CYL/16HD/63SECT it appears to be remapped >(by TP750 BIOS?) to be a virtual 699CYL/32HD/63SECT drive -- >which is rather nice for DOS because this stays within the >1024 cylinder limit of what DOS can handle on its own. Also >for anyone considering this upgrade, this drive is so thin >it does not fill the empty space in the caddy -- this may be >good for air circulation -- but I think it also results in a >bit more noise when the drive is running. > >While 720 MB was a nice upgrade from 340 MB, I am considering >maybe spending a bit more (the store will take both the 720 MB >drive and the 340 MB drive in trade at 2/3 of retail price) on >1,350 MB Toshiba MK1301MAV drive. This new disk would cost >me about $195.00 US -- so it seems worthwhile on the surface. >On the other hand, it is not an IBM drive. Has anyone put the >MK1301MAV drive in a Thinkpad 750 notebook? Do you find that >the drive is remapped so DOS thinks it is dealing with a drive >containing less than 1024 cylinders? > >If you have 1,350 MB in a notebook, what do you do for backup? >I have a SCSI card which I could use to backup to DAT or 8 MM >at work, but it would be nice to have my own backup system. I >really wonder what everyone else with large portable hard disk >does for reliable backup. Road Warrier offers a $125.00 US >box which you could put another IDE disk into -- but it uses >the parallel port to do data transfers. How fast is parallel >port on Thinkpads? 1.3 GB backup at low speed is not workable. >Does anyone make a similar SCSI to IDE/EIDE box? Also, the >Road Warrier solution tries to suck power from the keyboard >port -- my previous experience with this kind of arrangement >was with the original black and white quick cam -- the camera >never saw enough power to function -- not a good indication of >the amount of power available to run an external disk drive. > >Could someone tell me who sells empty IBM Thinkpad 750 caddys? >I don't think there is an official IBM source, but I recall an >advertisement some time ago about a company which makes them. >Also, there were 170 MB IBM caddys available cheap at one time >-- are they all gone? > >Alexander J. Annala, Ph.D. >Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology >University College London > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 27 16:32:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA008282341; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:32:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04900; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:32:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:28:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04506; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:28:03 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (CNRI.Reston.VA.US [132.151.1.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04500; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:28:00 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa16334; 27 Dec 96 16:22 EST Received: from localhost by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA03996; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:20:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:20:02 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Manheimer X-Sender: klm@glyph Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US To: epbrown Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Restoring DOS/Win3.1 Card Services for TP701cs? In-Reply-To: <32c1ea51.860747@smtp.enteract.com> Message-Id: X-Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, epbrown wrote: > Here's what it says in the file for the mobiles directory, if you still > haven't found this: > PCTPX130.EXE 523195 07-24-95 PCMCIA dsk v1.3-ThinkPads except 760/365 > > According to the .doc file, this disk should cover PC functions for the > 701 in DOS/Win. > HTH, > epbrown > On Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:18:35 -0500, you wrote: > > "I'm looking to obtain card services for my thinkpad 701c dos/windows > "side, and am wondering where/how to go about it. This is probably a Yay! Got it, installed it, it works great! Thank-you, thank you! I have yet to figure out how to get dos to pay attention to the modem side of the combo card i'm using - probably just a matter of reading the 3Com instructions - but anyway i was more generally concerned about getting the card services facilities before they're no longer available. (BTW, i'm not sure how meaningful it is, but i've had much easier and quicker success on the linux side of my machine getting ppp fully operational with the old (internal) tp modem, and with the new combo card, than i have with netcom's software packages, or with standard DOS facilities. While my greater familiarity with the unix side has a lot to do with that, that's balanced by the remarkable fact that the unix-side infrastructure is all freeware - redhat linux is great! - while the DOS/windows stuff is all commercial product (dos/windows, NETCOMplete, the 3Com installer, etc), intended for use by people even less dos savvy than i am...) Thanks again! Ken Manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us 703 620-8990 x268 (orporation for National Research |nitiatives # If you appreciate Python, consider joining the PSA! # # . # From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 27 17:20:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA016605215; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:20:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08254; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:20:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:16:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07803; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:15:57 -0500 Received: from envirolink.org (envirolink.org [206.210.73.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07797; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:15:55 -0500 Received: by envirolink.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA02036; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:15:32 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:15:32 -0500 From: player@envirolink.org (Sean Owens) Message-Id: <199612272215.RAA02036@envirolink.org> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Need Thinkpad 750 floppy drive repair or replacement Reply-To: player@envirolink.org Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, due to stupidity on my part and a friend's part, my floppy drive is now only half working. A disk got stuck in the drive because the metal flanges were sticking out, and to remove it we tried using a plastic knife, in the process damaging the drive. My theory is one of the heads is scraped or out of alignment. Now half the sectors on a disk are unreadable. I tried a disk cleaner with no luck, so now I'm looking into getting it either repaired (I don't think this is likely) or replaced. If anyone out there has a spare 750 floppy drive for sale, or knows where I can buy one or get one repaired, I would be forever in their debt. In fact, I'm open to any suggestions at all. It's no fun not being able to read disks. ;-) Thanks for any help. Sean Owens player@envirolink.org From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 27 17:33:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA018156001; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:33:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09277; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:33:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:29:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08911; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:29:17 -0500 Received: from mail.inforamp.net (Mail.InfoRamp.Net [204.191.136.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08893; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:29:15 -0500 Received: from ts35-13.tor.iSTAR.ca (ts12-11.tor.iSTAR.ca [204.191.138.51]) by mail.inforamp.net (8.7.3/8.7) with SMTP id RAA29780 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:23:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612272223.RAA29780@mail.inforamp.net> X-Sender: valliant@inforamp.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:27:45 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: valliant@micomtech.com (Hugh Valliant) Subject: Hard drive Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Season's Greetings to the list. I'm looking to replace my 1.08 GB with a 2.1 GB hard drive for my 760E. Does anyone have a good source and prices? Thanks in advance. Hugh ============================ MI-COM Technology Computer Solutions for Small Business Helping you access and travel the Information Highway Hugh A. Valliant Bus. (416) 726-5355 Fax. (416) 699-3847 Internet valliant@micomtech.com http://www.micomtech.com/~valliant/ ============================= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 27 18:14:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA026668487; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:14:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12088; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:14:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:10:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11682; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:10:23 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11674; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:10:20 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (d012003.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.12.3]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id RAA11388; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:10:17 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961227171006.00bde408@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:10:08 -0600 To: player@envirolink.org, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Need Thinkpad 750 floppy drive repair or replacement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Just for a temporary solution...if you have another Win95 desktop and a net or direct connection to it, you can share the floppy from the desktop to the notebook. Gook luck...and careful with those removable media devices... Thanks Mike Redmond ============ At 05:15 PM 12/27/96 -0500, Sean Owens wrote: > >Well, due to stupidity on my part and a friend's part, my floppy drive is now >only half working. A disk got stuck in the drive because the metal flanges >were sticking out, and to remove it we tried using a plastic knife, in the >process damaging the drive. My theory is one of the heads is scraped or out of >alignment. Now half the sectors on a disk are unreadable. I tried a disk >cleaner with no luck, so now I'm looking into getting it either repaired (I >don't think this is likely) or replaced. If anyone out there has a spare 750 >floppy drive for sale, or knows where I can buy one or get one repaired, I >would be forever in their debt. In fact, I'm open to any suggestions at all. >It's no fun not being able to read disks. ;-) Thanks for any help. > >Sean Owens >player@envirolink.org > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 28 06:28:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA135952493; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 06:28:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28691; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 06:27:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 28 Dec 1996 06:21:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28316; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 06:21:48 -0500 Received: from mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov (cds@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov [157.132.103.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28309; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 06:21:44 -0500 Received: (from cds@localhost) by mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov (8.8.2/8.8.0) id LAA20677 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 11:16:19 GMT Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 11:16:19 GMT From: Chris Liljenstolpe Message-Id: <199612281116.LAA20677@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: ActiveX and Thinkpads Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greetings, I was wondering if any of the TP's have ActiveX support (i.e. ac activedraw, etc.). My TP755CE does not, and IBM indicated no inclination to do so. I am looking at new laptops (not for that reason) and was wondering if any of the newer thinkpad's do/ -=Chris From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 28 08:56:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA154581411; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 08:56:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04886; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 08:56:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 28 Dec 1996 08:52:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04514; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 08:52:37 -0500 Received: from i-2000.com (root@i-2000.com [204.97.92.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04508; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 08:52:35 -0500 Received: from wtbrown (dyn1.access1.stamford.i-2000.net [207.97.137.66]) by i-2000.com (8.8.4/8.7) with SMTP id IAA09825 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 08:52:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961228135036.0067c9c8@i-2000.com> X-Sender: wtbrown@i-2000.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 08:50:36 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "w.t.brown" Subject: Thinkpad 560 sticking keys Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a new Thinkpad 560 and a few keys tend to stick (i.e. slight sticking before they release. I have seen this complaint before for other Thinkpads. What can be done? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 28 10:40:38 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA168457638; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:40:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10494; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:40:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:36:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10173; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:36:26 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10167; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:36:23 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00113; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 08:39:41 -0700 Message-Id: <32C53E28.7C62@wwsi.com> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 08:35:04 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Liljenstolpe Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ActiveX and Thinkpads X-Priority: Normal References: <199612281116.LAA20677@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hey, Chris! Take a look at http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,4524,00.html for some info on IBM's future plans with the Intel circuit board for Thinkpads. I don't see anything about direct ActiveX support, but MS has been pretty good with their software support for TPs. FWIW... ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 28 13:11:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA188906693; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:11:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18705; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:11:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:07:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18390; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:07:05 -0500 Received: from netcom17.netcom.com (phr@netcom17.netcom.com [192.100.81.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18384; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:07:03 -0500 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom17.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id KAA17695; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:07:01 -0800 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:07:01 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199612281807.KAA17695@netcom17.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 365xd info/opinions wanted Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What do ppl think of the 365XD? It seems nicer in most regards than my 755cx and the price is pretty reasonable. I think it has the same display (800x600 10.4" TFT) and keyboard, plus it has genuine Soundblaster-compatible audio hardware instead of the stupid Mwave, and it can take an internal CD-rom. Things it -doesn't- have are the Li ion battery and easily swappable hd's, but that's ok. Questions: - Can the HD be upgraded without too much hassle? I mean to put in a bigger one. I don't need to swap them in and out regularly. Can it use standard 19mm-thick HD's? - Is an external floppy included or is one available? Can the external floppy and internal CD be used as the same time without needing any software configuration? The idea is to do OS installations by booting a floppy that then reads the CD. This is a big pain with the 755cx, because you have to use an external cd with pcmcia scsi, which means you have to build the OS with pcmcia drivers etc. and you have a chicken and egg problem. (OS is Debian Linux, btw). - Does it have the same annoying 4-pin power connector or a more reasonable 2-pin coaxial plug? Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 28 13:43:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA193648621; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:43:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21150; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:43:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:39:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20860; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:39:32 -0500 Received: from mail-c.bcc.ac.uk (mail-c.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20854; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:39:29 -0500 Received: from [128.40.81.204] (actually host mouse.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-c.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sat, 28 Dec 1996 18:39:23 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk (Alexander J. Annala) Subject: IBM EasyServe Withholding of Presumed Stolen Thinkpads? Pp-Warning: No Date field - one added at mail-c.bcc.ac.uk Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 18:39:24 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was seriously thinking about buying a used IBM TP760EL notebook (System Serial No=9547WL4552C36N -- System Board No=1MSPT68RL1L) today from the Computer Exchange store in the center of London's high technology retail marketing area on Tottenham Court road. The listed price seemed quite reasonable -- maybe too reasonable (1,450GBP -- about $2,200 US). The system was in good condition -- P133 CPU, 800x600 TFT screen, 16MB RAM, 1GB HD, no flaws, etc. However, after reading a few stories about EasyServe withholding people's second hand notebooks when they were returned for service, I carefully asked the store staff about whether there would be any documentation which could be traced to the original purchaser. The short answer was a sort of clueless stammering -- well, no!!! They had no documentation regarding the original purchaser or the date (which would be needed for warranty service) of original purchase. Indeed, the main Computer Exchange staffer asked whether it might be legal for IBM to withhold a computer returned for repair absent any documentation for transfer of ownership other than a Computer Exchange register receipt/ticket. My response was that -- whether legal or not -- no one can afford the cost of taking IBM to court. So, in the absence of any documentation which can be traced to the original purchaser, what documentation would satisfy EasyServe that a second hand IBM thinkpad was legitimately purchased -- not stolen? What documentation would satisfy EasyServe that the unit was still within warranty and should be repaired without charge? Does IBM have an email address/phone/fax number where system serial numbers can at least be checked against their current stolen list to confirm an intended second hand purchase is copletely legitimate? Thanks, Alexander J. Annala, Ph.D. Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology University College London From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 28 13:52:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA194689156; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:52:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21667; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:52:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:48:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21438; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:48:52 -0500 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21432; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:48:49 -0500 From: Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA03776; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:48:17 -0500 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:48:17 -0500 Message-Id: <961228134817_1490523406@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard Drive Upgrades Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hugh, Portable Enhancements is an excellent source for Hard Drive upgrades for your system through 2.1gb at this time. We have user installable ShipKits that will allow you to install the HDD at your locatiun. The Kit comes with everything you need, including Step-By-Step Instructions. We also have RAM and Accessory upgrades available. We also have CPU upgrades for many of the Thinkpad line and other systems. Please contact me if you have any other questions. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: Hard drive Date: 96-12-27 17:39:04 EST From: valliant@micomtech.com (Hugh Valliant) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Season's Greetings to the list. I'm looking to replace my 1.08 GB with a 2.1 GB hard drive for my 760E. Does anyone have a good source and prices? Thanks in advance. Hugh ============================ MI-COM Technology Computer Solutions for Small Business Helping you access and travel the Information Highway Hugh A. Valliant Bus. 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(416) 699-3847 Internet valliant@micomtech.com http://www.micomtech.com/~valliant/ ============================= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 28 23:06:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA263722373; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 23:06:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21314; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 23:05:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:56:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20595; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:56:52 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (CNRI.Reston.VA.US [132.151.1.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20589; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:56:50 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa18748; 28 Dec 96 22:49 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA05101; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:46:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:46:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199612290346.WAA05101@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> From: Ken Manheimer To: "David N. Blank-Edelman" , ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Seeking Previous Thinkpad 701 BIOS - SYS7013n.EXE Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US X-Mailer: VM 5.96 (beta) / 19.14 XEmacs Lucid Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm still at it, taking advantage of some quiet time to try to tie up some loose ends with my thinkpad. The issue now is suspend/resume - things get fouled up, in both linux and dos/win, after any suspend/resume. I'm running the latest (and what seems to be the last) bios - BUTUSO3, ie sys7013o.exe - and have strong suspicions that is the culprit. I'd like to switch back to the sys7013n revision, but i can't find a trace of it on the web - no hits from either alta vista or lycos, and it doesn't seem to be available from the places that david blank-edelman suggested in his march, 20 post to the list (http://os2.ibm.be/bbs/download/f/10D/SYS7013N.EXE or ftp://ftp.nordic.ibm.com/pub/pccc/refdiag/thinkpad/701/sys7013n.exe). Sigh. So my question is, does anyone have a copy of the .exe available online somewhere, so that i could download it? Alternately, would someone be willing to upload it to a site i could provide? I do have a copy of sys7013m.exe that i made a while back, and may give that a try, but would like to get rev n, which people seem to be happy with... Thanks in advance! (I hope i'm not overusing the privileges of this list with my questions...) Ken Manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us 703 620-8990 x268 (orporation for National Research |nitiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, VA 22091 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 29 10:35:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA053003736; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:35:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01241; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:35:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:27:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00741; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:27:48 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00735; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:27:45 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id HAA10661; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 07:27:43 -0800 Received: from hi-av2.cadence.com(158.140.128.32) by mailgate.Cadence.COM via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma851873261.010658; Sun Dec 29 07:27:42 1996 Received: (from perley@localhost) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA20983; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 07:26:43 -0800 (PST) From: Don Perley Message-Id: <199612291526.HAA20983@mailhub.Cadence.COM> Subject: Re: IBM EasyServe Withholding of Presumed Stolen Thinkpads? To: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk (Alexander J. Annala) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 07:26:43 -0800 (PST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: from "Alexander J. Annala" at Dec 28, 96 06:39:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > What documentation would satisfy EasyServe that the unit was still > within warranty and should be repaired without charge? When I sent in my 755cd they didn't ask for purchase date at all. With a 3 year warrantee they could tell by the model number that there was *plenty* of time left. Date of manufacture is also stamped somewhere inside. You might get more scrutiny near the end when the time between manufacture and initial sale would be an issue (also for the low line models with 1 year warrantee). -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 29 14:31:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA081877876; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:31:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13354; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:31:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:25:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12874; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:25:57 -0500 Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (root@amber.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.111.100]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12868; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:25:55 -0500 Received: from sinai.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@sinai.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.113.201]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.8.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09420; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:25:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (dnb@localhost) by sinai.ccs.neu.edu (8.8.4/8.6.4) id OAA01100; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:25:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:25:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612291925.OAA01100@sinai.ccs.neu.edu> From: "David N. Blank-Edelman" To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Seeking Previous Thinkpad 701 BIOS - SYS7013n.EXE In-Reply-To: <199612290346.WAA05101@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> References: <199612290346.WAA05101@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Howdy- I'm not certain if if I have the exe file handy, but I still have the disk I made with that bios rev around (I feel like a collector of trading cards, having tried revs m,n,o at least). If you (or anyone else) wants to select some format for turning this disk back into a single file, I'll be glad to do that and put it up for ftp briefly. Though the offer still stands, I just want to point out that I don't believe that changing the bios made any difference in fixing my problems with suspend. I believe I sent a followup with this information to the list, but here's the summary just in case you missed it: After working with what felt like a substantial part of IBM's Thinkpad Support staff (plus MS advanced tech) about my inability to resume after suspend under win95 via APM, I finally found someone who suggested I check my Xircom ethernet card drivers. He felt they were either not 32-bit, or did not handle the post-suspend re-init properly. I was a bit skeptical that this was the problem because I experienced problems without the card in the slot. My jaw bounced off the floor when an upgrade to the latest drivers did in fact allow suspend/resume to work again. This fix didn't work 100%, but it did make APM & suspend/resume work again almost all of the time. Perhaps your problem may be bad driver related as well. BTW, I'm about to replace the Xircom PCMCIA card with something from another vendor (anyone want to trade?) because I'm revamping the machine to dual-boot with (Xircom unsupported) Linux. Peace, dNb From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 30 00:21:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA163423268; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:21:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17030; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:20:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:15:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16561; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:15:41 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16537; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:15:36 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id FAA100316 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 05:15:34 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-200.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.200) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaHM0DFW; Mon Dec 30 05:15:31 1996 Message-Id: <32C74FB3.40D4@ibm.net> Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:14:27 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: NT 4.0, Mwave and Thinkpad Utilities .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am trying to get the utilities diskette to work on my 755ce. When I create the diskettes from the archive, there is suppose to be an executable file called INSTDRV.EXE to prepare the installation process. However, it is NOT found on the diskette (the .DLL *is* there). Does anyone know where I can find this executable program?? Thanks. -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell ---- Principal Systems Engineer / Author / Instructor ---- 2 Applied Information & Management Systems, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v:(801)583-8544 f:(801)582-9543 bangell@venus.cs.utah.edu/aimsllc@ibm.net 4 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5 Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet Solutions, Notes/Internotes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCP/IP/Netbios/NFS/DCE), Custom (AWK/PERL/C++/Visualizer), 8 Database design/development (SQL based DB2/SQLserver), Data Modeling 9 Operating Systems (Warp/NT Server; AIX/HP-UX/SunOS; OS/400 [AS/400]) 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sandwich, they would 12 both be with us today!" - Anon [Disclaimer: I DO speak for AIMS!] From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 30 00:37:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA165804221; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:37:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18304; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:36:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:32:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17960; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:32:27 -0500 Received: from cs.utah.edu (cs.utah.edu [128.110.4.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17954; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:32:24 -0500 Received: from venus.cs.utah.edu by cs.utah.edu (8.8.4/utah-2.21-cs) id WAA29943; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:32:19 -0700 (MST) Received: by venus.cs.utah.edu (8.6.10/utah-2.15sun-leaf) id WAA03286; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:32:18 -0700 From: bangell@cs.utah.edu (bob angell) Message-Id: <199612300532.WAA03286@venus.cs.utah.edu> Subject: NT 4.0, Mwave and Thinkpad Utilities .... To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:32:17 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am trying to get the utilities diskette to work on my 755ce. When I create the diskettes from the archive, there is suppose to be an executable file called INSTDRV.EXE to prepare the installation process. However, it is NOT found on the diskette (the .DLL *is* there). Does anyone know where I can find this executable program?? Thanks. -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell, Principal-Systems(Industrial) Engineer / Author / Instructor 2 Applied Information & Management Systems, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 voice:(801) 583-8544 fax:(801) 582-9543 email:bangell@venus.cs.utah.edu 4 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 5 Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet Solutions, Lotus Notes/Internotes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCP/IP, Netbios, NFS, DCE), Custom (AWK, PERL, C++, Visualizer), 8 Database design/development (SQL based:DB2, SQLserver, etc.), Data Modeling 9 Operating Systems (Warp/NT Server; AIX / HP-UX / SunOS; OS/400 [AS/400]) 10 __________________________________________________________________________ 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sandwich, they would 12 both be with us today!" - Anon [Disclaimer: I don't speak for the UofU!] From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 30 05:11:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA200750700; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 05:11:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA04110; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 05:11:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 30 Dec 1996 05:06:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03755; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 05:06:29 -0500 Received: from edelweb.fr (edelweb.fr [193.51.12.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03749; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 05:06:26 -0500 Received: from champagne.edelweb.fr (champagne.edelweb.fr [193.51.14.161]) by edelweb.fr (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA17199; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:06:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from mercier.gctech.edelweb.fr (mercier.gctech.edelweb.fr [193.51.14.7]) by champagne.edelweb.fr (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA09245; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:06:16 +0100 Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by mercier.gctech.edelweb.fr (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA15917; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:06:16 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:06:15 +0100 (MET) From: Ben X-Sender: ben@mercier.gctech.edelweb.fr To: "Alexander J. Annala" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM EasyServe Withholding of Presumed Stolen Thinkpads? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > So, in the absence of any documentation which can be traced to the > original purchaser, what documentation would satisfy EasyServe that > a second hand IBM thinkpad was legitimately purchased -- not stolen? > What documentation would satisfy EasyServe that the unit was still > within warranty and should be repaired without charge? I had my lawyer draw up a bill of sale, had the seller sign the bill of sale, got the letter notarized and each time I send my machine in ot EasyServe, I include a notarized copy of the bill of sale along with a notarized copy of the original reciept. Ben. ____ Ben Samman.................................................ben@edelweb.fr Paris, France Illudium Q36 Explosive Space Modulator From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 30 07:04:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA213857473; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:04:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14578; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:04:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 30 Dec 1996 06:59:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14238; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 06:59:02 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14232; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 06:58:55 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA14515 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:58:36 +1100 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) id WAA18570; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:58:35 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:58:30 +1100 (EST) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: hdd interchangeability In-Reply-To: <199612291925.OAA01100@sinai.ccs.neu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu any experience putting a thinkpad 755CE 810 MB HDD into the ultra bay of a 760ED? how about putting a 1.08 or 2.1 GB HDD for a 760ED into a 755CE? thanks, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 30 08:34:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA224342881; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:34:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19365; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:34:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:29:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19046; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:29:11 -0500 Received: from i-2000.com (root@i-2000.com [204.97.92.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19040; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:29:08 -0500 Received: from wtbrown (dyn10.access1.stamford.i-2000.net [207.97.137.75]) by i-2000.com (8.8.4/8.7) with SMTP id IAA06410 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:29:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961230132853.0068f800@i-2000.com> X-Sender: wtbrown@i-2000.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:28:53 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "w.t.brown" Subject: Thinkpad 560 sticking keys Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a new Thinkpad 560 and a few keys tend to stick (i.e. slight sticking before they release. I have seen this complaint before for other Thinkpads. What can be done? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 30 10:18:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA238899134; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 10:18:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29023; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 10:18:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 30 Dec 1996 10:10:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28395; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 10:10:44 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28370; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 10:10:38 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (d012003.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.12.3]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id JAA16773 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:10:32 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961230091028.00bd6714@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:10:32 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Annual modem deals? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Last year about this time there was a great deal on PCMCIA 28.8 modems from Computer City (at least I think that was the outfit). They were $99. Has anyone heard of a similar deal this year? Last year, it ended on January 1. I am hoping there is a tradition for such deals.... :-) Thanks Mike Redmond From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 30 14:27:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA062794048; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:27:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16335; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:27:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:21:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15888; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:21:24 -0500 Received: from toysrus-bh.tru.com ([206.34.177.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15882; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:21:20 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by toysrus-bh.tru.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id OAA23795 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:21:56 -0500 Received: from news.tru.com by toysrus-bh.tru.com via smap (V1.3) id sma023530; Mon Dec 30 14:21:03 1996 Received: from msg01psp.tru.com by mailgate.tru.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Mar96-0504PM) id AA05479; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:18:37 -0500 Received: by msg01psp.tru.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BBF658.B9B76720@msg01psp.tru.com>; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:52:41 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Crumrine, Mike" To: "'tp750@cs.utk.edu'" , "'Chris Liljenstolpe'" Subject: RE: ActiveX and Thinkpads Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:28:55 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just got the ActiveX 3.0 and Red Alert going on my 760CD. It required the latest bios and display driver. The only trick left was to select 640x400 instead of 640x480 in the Red Alert setup. >---------- >From: Chris Liljenstolpe[SMTP:cds@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov] >Sent: Saturday, December 28, 1996 6:16 AM >To: tp750@cs.utk.edu >Subject: ActiveX and Thinkpads > >Greetings, > > I was wondering if any of the TP's have ActiveX support (i.e. ac >activedraw, etc.). My TP755CE does not, and IBM indicated no inclination >to do so. I am looking at new laptops (not for that reason) and was >wondering >if any of the newer thinkpad's do/ > > -=Chris > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 30 14:43:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA066725007; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:43:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17621; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:43:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:38:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17301; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:38:30 -0500 Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [15.253.72.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17294; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:38:26 -0500 From: Received: from boi118.boi.hp.com (boi118.boi.hp.com [15.56.8.42]) by palrel1.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA00500; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:37:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from by boi118.boi.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.4 Openmail) id AA065164721; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:38:41 -0800 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 96 11:38:06 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: ActiveX and Thinkpads Mime-Version: 1.0 To: crumrinem@toysrus.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, "'Chris Liljenstolpe'"@boi118.boi.hp.com, cds@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RE:" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This entire thread seems to beusing the incorrect terms. ActiveX should be DirectX (DirectPlay,DirectDraw, etc..). I too got the DirectX 3 drivers to work on my 760C with the game Heroes of Might and Magic II. Dunno what the new drivers do though, seem just as good as 2.0. Richard Hamel -------------- ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: ActiveX and Thinkpads Author: Non-HP-crumrinem (crumrinem@toysrus.com) at HP-Boise,mimegw18 Date: 12/30/96 7:28 AM I just got the ActiveX 3.0 and Red Alert going on my 760CD. It required the latest bios and display driver. The only trick left was to select 640x400 instead of 640x480 in the Red Alert setup. >---------- >From: Chris Liljenstolpe[SMTP:cds@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov] >Sent: Saturday, December 28, 1996 6:16 AM >To: tp750@cs.utk.edu >Subject: ActiveX and Thinkpads > >Greetings, > > I was wondering if any of the TP's have ActiveX support (i.e. ac >activedraw, etc.). My TP755CE does not, and IBM indicated no inclination >to do so. I am looking at new laptops (not for that reason) and was >wondering >if any of the newer thinkpad's do/ > > -=Chris > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 30 15:06:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA070446359; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:05:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19444; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:05:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:01:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19161; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:01:09 -0500 Received: from bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (root@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca [199.185.130.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19131; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:00:58 -0500 Received: from LANCEN (usr1235@[199.185.130.90]) by bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (8.7.4/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA28871 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:36:12 -0700 (MST) Received: by LANCEN with Microsoft Mail id <01BBF651.0FA3D680@LANCEN>; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 12:57:49 -0700 Message-Id: <01BBF651.0FA3D680@LANCEN> From: Lance Nichols To: "ThinkPad Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: ActiveX and ThinkPads Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 12:57:40 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I belive that the thread is using the wrong names for some of MS = technologies. ActiveX is the latest version of "OLE" essentially, and = will work on any machine, so long as you are using ActiveX enabled = programes, like MS Internet Explorer 3.x, Office 97, etc. DirectX is the technologies Windows95 and WindowsNT 4.0 use for direct = hardware access, mainly for games.... Thant being said most of the = current ThinkPads support DirectX drivers, but my require a driver or = bios update. I own a ThinkPad 701CS and have had no troubles installing = DirectX 2.0, and am later installing DirectX 3.0 support. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 30 16:15:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA085290554; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:15:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26207; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:15:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:11:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25770; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:11:06 -0500 Received: from mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov (root@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov [157.132.103.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25756; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:11:00 -0500 Received: from freke.ssds.com (freke.mcmurdo.gov [157.132.106.108]) by mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov (8.8.2/8.8.0) with SMTP id UAA10878; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:53:11 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961231093820.00761838@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov> X-Sender: cds@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 09:57:29 +1300 To: RICHARD_HAMEL@non-hp-santaclara-om3.om.hp.com, crumrinem@toysrus.com From: Chris Liljenstolpe Subject: RE: ActiveX and Thinkpads Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, "'Chris Liljenstolpe'"@boi118.boi.hp.com, cds@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greetings, Yup - mea culpa - I meant DirectX not ActiveX (and therefore, directdraw, etc.)/ -=Chris At 11:38 96-12-30 -0800, the sage RICHARD_HAMEL@non-hp-santaclara-om3.om.hp.com scribed: > This entire thread seems to beusing the incorrect terms. ActiveX > should be DirectX (DirectPlay,DirectDraw, etc..). I too got the > DirectX 3 drivers to work on my 760C with the game Heroes of Might and > Magic II. Dunno what the new drivers do though, seem just as good as > 2.0. > > Richard Hamel > -------------- > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: RE: ActiveX and Thinkpads >Author: Non-HP-crumrinem (crumrinem@toysrus.com) at HP-Boise,mimegw18 >Date: 12/30/96 7:28 AM > > >I just got the ActiveX 3.0 and Red Alert going on my 760CD. It required >the latest bios and display driver. The only trick left was to select >640x400 instead of 640x480 in the Red Alert setup. > >>---------- >>From: Chris Liljenstolpe[SMTP:cds@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov] >>Sent: Saturday, December 28, 1996 6:16 AM >>To: tp750@cs.utk.edu >>Subject: ActiveX and Thinkpads >> >>Greetings, >> >> I was wondering if any of the TP's have ActiveX support (i.e. ac >>activedraw, etc.). My TP755CE does not, and IBM indicated no inclination >>to do so. I am looking at new laptops (not for that reason) and was >>wondering >>if any of the newer thinkpad's do/ >> >> -=Chris >> > > Thus end the quotation from the scroll From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 30 19:51:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA119453481; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:51:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09357; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:51:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:46:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09041; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:46:46 -0500 Received: from emout02.mail.aol.com (emout02.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.93]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09035; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:46:44 -0500 From: Received: by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA03166; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:46:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:46:11 -0500 Message-Id: <961230194610_1323824158@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: hdd interchangeability Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Alden, The TP760 can only take a HDD that is a maximum of 17mm high. The drives that you are proposing may either be Full Size (19mm or 3/4" tall) or Slimline (12.7mm or 1/2" tall). Right now we only offer Slimline Hard Drives for your system. The largest drive we have at the moment is 1.3gb, but the 2.1gb Slimline should be available any day now. Please contact me if you would like our complete upgrade catalog for your system. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: hdd interchangeability Date: 96-12-30 07:09:47 EST From: Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au (Alden S Klovdahl) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu any experience putting a thinkpad 755CE 810 MB HDD into the ultra bay of a 760ED? how about putting a 1.08 or 2.1 GB HDD for a 760ED into a 755CE? thanks, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 30 21:01:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA130407662; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 21:01:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14013; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 21:00:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:56:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13598; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:56:31 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13590; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:56:27 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA10705; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:56:23 +1100 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) id MAA05085; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:56:22 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:56:18 +1100 (EST) To: PEPSales@aol.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: hdd interchangeability In-Reply-To: <961230194610_1323824158@emout02.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu thanks michael. basically, i want to get a 760ED with a 2.1 hdd and fit the 810 hdd from my 755ce into the *ultrabay* when i want to access some data on it. i then want to replace the 810 from the 755ce with a 1.08 hdd (and pass the machine on to a programmer who does work for me). if i cannot move the 810 hdd from the 755CE to a 760ED *ultrabay* there is no point in buying the latter...i may as well get something less expensive than a thinkpad for the second machine. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 On Mon, 30 Dec 1996 PEPSales@aol.com wrote: > Alden, > > The TP760 can only take a HDD that is a maximum of 17mm high. The drives that > you are proposing may either be Full Size (19mm or 3/4" tall) or Slimline > (12.7mm or 1/2" tall). Right now we only offer Slimline Hard Drives for your > system. The largest drive we have at the moment is 1.3gb, but the 2.1gb > Slimline should be available any day now. Please contact me if you would > like our complete upgrade catalog for your system. > > Best Regards, > > Michael > email: pepsale2@portables.com > Portable Enhancements > The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM > Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! > WEB: http://www.portables.com > > > ========Original Message======== > > Subj: hdd interchangeability > Date: 96-12-30 07:09:47 EST > From: Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au (Alden S Klovdahl) > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > any experience putting a thinkpad 755CE 810 MB HDD > into the ultra bay of a 760ED? > > how about putting a 1.08 or 2.1 GB HDD for a 760ED into a 755CE? > > thanks, al > > Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 > Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia > 0200 > > > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 30 21:42:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA135820161; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 21:42:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16773; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 21:42:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 30 Dec 1996 21:38:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16392; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 21:38:47 -0500 Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16386; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 21:38:42 -0500 Received: from egiles (port15.netpathway.com [208.137.139.30]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA21265 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:38:45 -0600 Message-Id: <199612310238.UAA21265@sammy.netpathway.com> From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: TP 701c and refresh rates on ext. mon. Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:38:04 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I know that this question has probably been asked before, but I unfortunatley did not pay attention the first time. I am occasionally using a TP 701C (Win95 install) with a MAG Innovision DX15F monitor. I am using what I believe to be the latest Chips&Tech. drivers (ver. 4.2.0.110 for all of the files except one, all dated 7/11/96). There is a refresh tab under the display settings with a pull-down menu that is grayed out. The check-box under that is labeled Windows default. Selecting or un-selecting this box has no effect, as the pull-down menu remains grayed out. I also selected the correct monitor .inf file under the display settings, but this doesn't help either. Any help on this issue will be greatly appreciated. Eric Giles egiles@netpathway.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 31 10:40:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA238336855; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:40:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06232; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:40:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:31:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05447; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:31:10 -0500 Received: from mtigwc01.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.129.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05441; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:31:07 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME ([207.147.101.183]) by mtigwc01.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA20579 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:30:34 +0000 X-Sender: m.millegan@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Millegan Subject: Clock doesn't keep time Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:30:34 +0000 Message-Id: <19961231153031.AAA20579@LOCALNAME> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have noticed that my clock doesn't keep time when I suspend my TP 701c. At first I thought it was just Windows 3.1, but this morning even DOS has the wrong time. Yesterday, however, when I went to setup, the CMOS had the correct time and date. Any ideas, is my battery going South? I have noticed that the battery drains very rapidly recently. I will check the battery meter and it will say 46 minutes left, and in less than 5 minutes I get the message that I should change to AC power immediately. TIA for any ideas. Mike From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 31 12:09:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA250582153; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:09:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13182; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:07:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:03:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12652; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:03:19 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12576; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:03:09 -0500 Received: from 701c (liv-38.rust.net [206.42.195.138]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.4/8.8.0) with SMTP id MAA21396; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:02:13 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961231120246.006cacd8@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:03:02 -0500 To: Michael Millegan , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: Clock doesn't keep time Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 03:30 PM 12/31/96 +0000, you wrote: >I have noticed that my clock doesn't keep time when I suspend my TP 701c. >At first I thought it was just Windows 3.1, but this morning even DOS has >the wrong time. Yesterday, however, when I went to setup, the CMOS had the >correct time and date. Any ideas, is my battery going South? > >I have noticed that the battery drains very rapidly recently. I will check >the battery meter and it will say 46 minutes left, and in less than 5 >minutes I get the message that I should change to AC power immediately. > >TIA for any ideas. > >Mike > I had a similar problem with my 701c where the last 45 minutes went very fast. I think what you will find is a weak cell in the battery pack. You can try cycling your battery but I found that pack replacement is the only real fix. I found from the NIST (National Institutes of Standards) a bunch of programs and C code fragments that can align your clock from the Government's time standards. They have dial-up as well as TCP internet clients that figure out the network loop delay (pings) and sends you time corrected info. The Windows program that I downloaded will even set your clock for you. It's supposed to be accurate to within a half a second, at the outside. Enjoy... B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 31 12:13:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA251512406; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:13:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13737; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:13:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:09:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13427; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:09:38 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13420; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:09:35 -0500 Received: from MYHOSTNAME (user-37kb9hc.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.166.44]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA32346; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:09:28 -0500 Message-Id: <32C948CA.6C2C@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:09:30 -0500 From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (OS/2; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Rubin Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 365xd info/opinions wanted References: <199612281807.KAA17695@netcom17.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Paul Rubin wrote: > > What do ppl think of the 365XD? It seems nicer in most regards > than my 755cx and the price is pretty reasonable. I think it has > the same display (800x600 10.4" TFT) and keyboard, plus it has > genuine Soundblaster-compatible audio hardware instead of the stupid > Mwave, and it can take an internal CD-rom. Things it -doesn't- have > are the Li ion battery and easily swappable hd's, but that's ok. > Questions: > - Can the HD be upgraded without too much hassle? I mean to put > in a bigger one. I don't need to swap them in and out regularly. > Can it use standard 19mm-thick HD's? > - Is an external floppy included or is one available? Can the > external floppy and internal CD be used as the same time without > needing any software configuration? The idea is to do OS installations > by booting a floppy that then reads the CD. This is a big pain with > the 755cx, because you have to use an external cd with pcmcia scsi, > which means you have to build the OS with pcmcia drivers etc. and > you have a chicken and egg problem. (OS is Debian Linux, btw). > - Does it have the same annoying 4-pin power connector or a more > reasonable 2-pin coaxial plug? > > Thanks. The hard drive can be upgraded, there are a few screws to remove and the drive lifts out. Not sure what size of HDD's will fit. The floppy & CD-ROm are useable at the same time. THe cd-rom is not removable. The power adapter has the 2-pin plug. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 31 12:38:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA254893906; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:38:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15743; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:38:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:34:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15462; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:34:13 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15455; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:34:10 -0500 Received: from MYHOSTNAME (user-37kb9hc.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.166.44]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA03396; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:34:00 -0500 Message-Id: <32C94E8A.AFB@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:34:02 -0500 From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (OS/2; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Millegan Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Clock doesn't keep time References: <19961231153031.AAA20579@LOCALNAME> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If the COMS has the correct time/date then you have a s/w problem. Try booting your system & press F5 when it says starting pc-dos. Let it sit overnight & see what happends. Michael Millegan wrote: > > I have noticed that my clock doesn't keep time when I suspend my TP 701c. > At first I thought it was just Windows 3.1, but this morning even DOS has > the wrong time. Yesterday, however, when I went to setup, the CMOS had the > correct time and date. Any ideas, is my battery going South? > > I have noticed that the battery drains very rapidly recently. I will check > the battery meter and it will say 46 minutes left, and in less than 5 > minutes I get the message that I should change to AC power immediately. > > TIA for any ideas. > > Mike From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 31 14:51:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA274261866; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:51:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24110; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:50:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:45:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23665; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:45:47 -0500 Received: from gsbux1.uchicago.edu (gsbux1.uchicago.edu [128.135.130.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23628; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:45:40 -0500 Received: from gsbdwd (gsbdwd.uchicago.edu [128.135.130.161]) by gsbux1.uchicago.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA14233 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:45:37 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961231194306.009227c4@gsbfac.uchicago.edu> X-Sender: dwd@gsbfac.uchicago.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:43:06 -0600 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "Douglas W. Diamond" Subject: X-Jack modem in TP 701C? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone used a Megahertz X-Jack modem in a 701? I bought one, and the phone line connector barely fits under the butterfly keyboard. Will it kill the X-Jack due to pressure, or does this work? Thanks Doug Diamond From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 31 15:52:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA283105543; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:52:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29062; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:52:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:47:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28647; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:47:27 -0500 Received: from VM.NMU.EDU ([198.110.200.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28639; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:47:23 -0500 Received: from NMU.EDU by VM.NMU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 6673; Tue, 31 Dec 96 15:45:13 EST Received: by NMU.EDU (MUSIC Mailer V5.1.0); Tue, 31 Dec 96 15:45:13 EST Received: from [198.110.207.71] by NMU.EDU (MUSIC Mailer V5.1.0) with POP3 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:45:11 EST Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961231154301.0069092c@pop.mail.nmu.edu> X-Sender: DMaki@pop.mail.nmu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:43:04 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Maki Subject: WANTED IBM 360PE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am looking for info on where to purchase an IBM 360PE. Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 31 16:05:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA285536335; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 16:05:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00486; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 16:05:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 31 Dec 1996 16:01:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00106; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 16:01:31 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29994; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 16:01:28 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA165409 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 21:01:25 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-122.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.122) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaqQMDFW; Tue Dec 31 21:01:22 1996 Message-Id: <32C97EFC.5FE9@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:00:44 -0700 From: Bob Angell Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: INSTDRV.EXE for Windows NT 4.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I put this up on the list a couple of days ago and thought I would try again ... while trying to get the DSP working on my 755ce under NT 4.0, I need the INSTDRV.EXE program off of the utilities diskette (the recent archive has this file missing) ... ANYONE?!?!? If you do have it, you can just email it if possible! Thanks. -Bob- -- 1 Bob Angell ---- Principal Systems Engineer / Author / Instructor ---- 2 Applied Information & Management Systems, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 3 v:(801)583-8544 f:(801)582-9543 bangell@venus.cs.utah.edu/aimsllc@ibm.net 4 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5 Applied Information & Management Systems (AIMS) has services as follows: 6 Intra/Internet Solutions, Notes/Internotes, Multiplatform integration 7 Networking (TCP/IP/Netbios/NFS/DCE), Custom (AWK/PERL/C++/Visualizer), 8 Database design/development (SQL based DB2/SQLserver), Data Modeling 9 Operating Systems (Warp/NT Server; AIX/HP-UX/SunOS; OS/400 [AS/400]) 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sandwich, they would 12 both be with us today!" - Anon [Disclaimer: I DO speak for AIMS!] From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 31 20:19:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA030311561; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:19:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15023; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:19:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:13:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14673; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:13:53 -0500 Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com (emout17.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14666; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:13:50 -0500 From: Received: by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA24801 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:13:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:13:17 -0500 Message-Id: <961231201317_36488141@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Upgrade Question Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dave, Thank you for your inquiry. The largest Hard Drive available for the TP701 at this time is the 2.1gb. I am sending you all our upgrade information for your system. we have been upgrading the CPU on this system for quite awhile now with excellent results. If you have a DX2/50 processor, the AMD 5X86/100mhz CPU will more than double the response of your system. Our benchmarks show your response to be the response equivalent of the Pentium 75. Please contact me if you have any other questions or concerns. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com =======Original Message========= X-Sender: dspeed@mail.well.com Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:33:17 -0500 To: pepsale2@portables.com From: Dave Speed Subject: Upgrade Question Gentlemen; I saw a posting in the IBM Thinkpad mailing list. I have a 701C and am thinking about upgrading the HD (either sooner or later) and the advisability of upgrading the processor. What is the net speed effect of upgrading the processor ? Can you upgrade the memory on the systemboard ? It is my understanding that this unit does not take 32 mb modules. Thanks Dave Speed From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 31 20:34:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA032612478; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:34:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16283; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:34:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:29:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15895; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:29:54 -0500 Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15888; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:29:48 -0500 Received: from egiles (port11.netpathway.com [208.137.139.26]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA29073 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 19:29:41 -0600 Message-Id: <199701010129.TAA29073@sammy.netpathway.com> From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: TP 701C refresh rates on ext. monitor Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 19:27:15 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm trying to increase the refresh rate on my 701C using a MAG Innovision DX15F. I'm using the C&T Win 95 drivers dated 7/11/96. The refresh tab in the display properties will not allow me to select anything. I've just installed the latest driver that is DirectX 3.0 compatible, but now my system hangs on reboot. Selecting the proper .inf file for the monitor doesn't help either. Any help with this is greatly appreciated. Eric Giles From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 31 21:45:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044286723; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 21:45:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20584; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 21:45:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 31 Dec 1996 21:40:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20169; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 21:40:23 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20162; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 21:40:20 -0500 From: Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id CAB188808 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 02:40:17 GMT Received: from slip166-72-214-80.ca.us.ibm.net(166.72.214.80) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaIngC92; Wed Jan 1 02:40:13 1997 Received: by slip166-72-214-80 (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id SAA000.75; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 18:40:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199612312340.SAA000.75@slip166-72-214-80> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 96 18:35:20 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: Upgrade Question X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <74_143_4_852075320> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Michael, It seems to me that one piece of information you should include in ANY post regarding upgrades is whether your proposed (offered) upgrade does or does not (or whether you've taken any action to determine whether) it invalidate the ThinkPad warranty. One of the reasons we've bought ThinkPads is the warranty and I think that this is a consideration (major or not) to many other buyers. So, what information do you have relating to warranty compliance? BTW, Dave, you can buy 32M memory modules for the 701 (from IBM at least) and they will not invalidate your warranty. Lee //--- forwarded letter ------------------------------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 96 20:13:17 -0500 > From: PEPSales@aol.com > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Upgrade Question > > Dave, > > Thank you for your inquiry. The largest Hard Drive available for the TP701 at > this time is the 2.1gb. I am sending you all our upgrade information for your > system. we have been upgrading the CPU on this system for quite awhile now > with excellent results. If you have a DX2/50 processor, the AMD 5X86/100mhz > CPU will more than double the response of your system. Our benchmarks show > your response to be the response equivalent of the Pentium 75. Please contact > me if you have any other questions or concerns. > > Best Regards, > > Michael > email: pepsale2@portables.com > Portable Enhancements > The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM > Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! > WEB: http://www.portables.com > > =======Original Message========= > > X-Sender: dspeed@mail.well.com > Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:33:17 -0500 > To: pepsale2@portables.com > From: Dave Speed > Subject: Upgrade Question > > > Gentlemen; > > I saw a posting in the IBM Thinkpad mailing list. > > I have a 701C and am thinking about upgrading the HD (either sooner or > later) and > the advisability of upgrading the processor. > > What is the net speed effect of upgrading the processor ? > > Can you upgrade the memory on the systemboard ? It is my > understanding that this unit does not take 32 mb modules. > > Thanks > > Dave Speed > > > ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 31 22:33:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA050429623; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 22:33:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23493; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 22:33:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 31 Dec 1996 22:28:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23239; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 22:28:46 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23233; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 22:28:43 -0500 Received: from beelzebub-8.d.enteract.com (beelzebub-8.d.enteract.com [207.112.154.112]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14456; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 21:28:33 -0600 (CST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: "Douglas W. Diamond" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: X-Jack modem in TP 701C? Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 03:31:06 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32c9bd2f.58506297@smtp.enteract.com> References: <2.2.32.19961231194306.009227c4@gsbfac.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961231194306.009227c4@gsbfac.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm using now, and have been for months. No problems. epbrown On Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:43:06 -0600, you wrote: "Has anyone used a Megahertz X-Jack modem in a 701? I bought one, and = the phone line connector barely fits under the butterfly keyboard. Will = it kill the X-Jack due to pressure, or does this work? " "Thanks "Doug Diamond " " epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 31 23:40:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA060033615; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 23:40:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27502; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 23:40:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 31 Dec 1996 23:34:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27080; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 23:34:43 -0500 Received: from dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (dragon.cnm.columbia.edu [128.59.192.114]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27074; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 23:34:40 -0500 Received: from yannster.jrn.columbia.edu (dialup-8-10.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.36.198]) by dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9/sed) with SMTP id XAA13252 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 23:34:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961231233351.00c2f72c@jrn.columbia.edu> X-Sender: yann@jrn.columbia.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 23:33:54 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Yann Nicolas Subject: Re: X-Jack modem in TP 701C? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >"Has anyone used a Megahertz X-Jack modem in a 701? I bought one, and the phone line connector barely fits under the butterfly keyboard. Will it kill the X-Jack due to pressure, or does this work? I've been using an XJ4288 for over 6 month without any problem. Always connects at 28,800... :-) Now, if only my AllPoints card would fit under that keyboard... :-( -- Yann Nicolas Systems Manager - Graduate School of Journalism, Columbia University yann@jrn.columbia.edu - http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/~yann/soccer.html