From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 1 10:11:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA121051114; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:11:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11366; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:09:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:59:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09712; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:59:10 -0500 Received: from PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com (user-168-121-83-49.dialup.mindspring.com [168.121.83.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09552; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:58:26 -0500 From: Received: by PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.17/2.12um) id AA0054; Fri, 01 Nov 96 09:57:45 -0500 Message-Id: <9611011457.AA0054@PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 96 09:49:10 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760CD Memory - it works! X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <53_134_4_846859750> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A followup on my purchase of memory: Got home last night and the 16MB memory DIMM was here. It appears to be well made and even had a sticker stating that it was equivalent to IBM part # 92G7316. The chip number ended in "-60", which I assume means 60ns memory. Although I ordered it from CMS (352) 726-7700, it was actually shipped from TechWorks in Austin, TX. Rick at CMS called this "the factory". For comparison purposes, it was $154.65 + $12.00 shipping. ...and it works. It passed the internal diagnostics, IBM's external diagnostics, and NU V8 diagnostics...and Warp V3 seems to be happy with it, too. Now on to the Warp V4 upgrade! --------------o------------- paulwal@colum.mindspring.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 1 11:40:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA134406404; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:40:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24964; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:35:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:31:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24411; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:31:41 -0500 Received: from tiger.avana.net (tiger.avana.net [205.245.133.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24405; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:31:39 -0500 Received: from littleboy.multisoft.com by tiger.avana.net; (5.65/1.1.8.2/30Apr96-1201PM) id AA13395; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:31:31 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961101163131.00688ccc@tiger.avana.net> X-Sender: lrj@tiger.avana.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 11:31:31 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Lew Jansen Subject: 760ED hangs on CD/floppy hot-swap? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Okay, this has been discussed before, but I didn't pay much attention because my 760CD with Win95 hot-swaps the CDROM & Floppy with no difficulty. However, I'm setting up a 760ED for someone else and it doesn't work properly. The symptoms are that if I boot with the CDROM and remove it, the system hangs. It won't sspend at this point either; if I lift the keyboard or hit Alt+F4, it thinks about it and finally bleats. What was the final resolution of this problem? This 760ED shipped with Win95 preinstalled. Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lew Jansen lrj@avana.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 1 15:07:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA171478828; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:07:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14921; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 14:14:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 1 Nov 1996 14:06:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13460; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 14:06:30 -0500 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13412; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 14:06:23 -0500 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA17895; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from johnppp.lantronix.com by mulligan with SMTP id AA26677 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:06:08 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 96 12:13:22 Pacific Standard Time From: John Pham Subject: Re: 760ED hangs on CD/floppy hot-swap? To: Lew Jansen , tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <2.2.32.19961101163131.00688ccc@tiger.avana.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu They lied to you. I've spoke with IBM Tech Support when I first got my 760ELD and they said it's not supported eventhough the manual said it could. John Pham --- On Fri, 01 Nov 1996 11:31:31 -0500 Lew Jansen wrote: Okay, this has been discussed before, but I didn't pay much attention because my 760CD with Win95 hot-swaps the CDROM & Floppy with no difficulty. However, I'm setting up a 760ED for someone else and it doesn't work properly. The symptoms are that if I boot with the CDROM and remove it, the system hangs. It won't sspend at this point either; if I lift the keyboard or hit Alt+F4, it thinks about it and finally bleats. What was the final resolution of this problem? This 760ED shipped with Win95 preinstalled. Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lew Jansen lrj@avana.net ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: John Pham E-mail: John Pham Date: 11/01/96 Time: 12:13:23 -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 1 15:57:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA179971840; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:57:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29819; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:53:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:48:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28894; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:48:18 -0500 Received: from tiger.avana.net (tiger.avana.net [205.245.133.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28827; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:47:12 -0500 Received: from littleboy.multisoft.com by tiger.avana.net; (5.65/1.1.8.2/30Apr96-1201PM) id AA00731; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:46:58 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961101204656.006881ec@tiger.avana.net> X-Sender: lrj@tiger.avana.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 15:46:56 -0500 To: John Pham From: Lew Jansen Subject: Re: 760ED hangs on CD/floppy hot-swap? Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks for your helpful comments John, but the system is a 760ED, not 760ELD. The problem is some sort of Win95 driver issue, because further experiementation has revealed that the problem does NOT apparently exist under DOS (warm-swapping CDROM & Floppy works fine). The "hang" in Win95 is not a full hang apparently, it just takes a couple minutes to respond to the keyboard. (e.g. I can ctrl-alt-del the system, get the end-task dialog, and move around in it... provided I wait a minute or so for the system to catch up with what I do) -- Lew At 12:13 PM 11/1/96 Time, you wrote: >They lied to you. I've spoke with IBM Tech Support when I first got my >760ELD and they said it's not supported eventhough the manual said it >could. > >John Pham ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lew Jansen lrj@avana.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 1 17:49:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA198348536; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:48:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19265; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:47:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:44:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18912; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:44:48 -0500 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18906; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:44:43 -0500 From: Received: by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA29119 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:44:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:44:00 -0500 Message-Id: <961101174358_135018899@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 755cd - 800 x 600 external monitor with 65K+ colors Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I wish to run an external monitor at 800 x 600 with greater than 16 colors (preferably 65k+ colors). Do not know how to set the 755cd up to do so. Perhaps someone can help. I am running Windows 95. Thank you From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 1 18:14:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA201780058; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:14:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15479; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:22:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:10:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13534; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:10:17 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@news1.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13382; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:09:55 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id.rad.net.id (dyn1044a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.44]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id RAA13652; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:16:17 +0700 (WIB) Message-Id: <327A84CA.7C37@rad.net.id> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 17:16:26 -0600 From: "B. Sabini" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Carey Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: TP701 Screens washed out. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Christian Carey wrote: > > On Thursday, 31st October 1996, B. Sabini wrote: > > > > > While on the subject of 701's screen. I have been noticing that > > > > whenever I connected to Multiport II, the screen got washed out. > > > > Color seemed becoming 4 bit and the screens got very bright > > > > But after disconnect the Multiport II and reboot it went back to > > > > normal. Any idea. > > > > > > Which OS are you using when this happens? > > > > Win95 > > Have you downloaded and installed the latest Windows 95 video drivers > for the 701C from the IBM FTP site? Is there any ?. I checked out http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/dskt3.html#table-2 but it did not mention about Win95 driver for TP701C. Thanks anyway, > -- > Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 1 18:17:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA202130220; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:17:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15482; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:22:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:17:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14527; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:17:53 -0500 Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14510; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:17:45 -0500 From: Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA28792 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:17:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:17:05 -0500 Message-Id: <961101171703_344114813@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Big hard drive for 755cx Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu We have 2.1gb Hard Drives that you can install in your TP755CX. Our ShipKits can be installed by you with our model specific Step-By-Step instructions.The additional Hard Drive Carriers are included at no extra charge. We also have RAM, HDD, and CPU upgrades for many ot the Thinkpad systems. Please contact me with your model number if you would like our pricing. Please forgive me if you already received this message. It was returned unsent. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com/pep ========Original Message======== Subj: Big hard drive for 755cx Date: 96-10-30 17:29:49 EST From: ingerman@chelsea.ios.com (Mark M. Ingerman) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad Forum) I am looking for a larger hard drive fro my 755cx. Ibm says that the largest drive available is a 1.2 Gig. I was hoping for a 2 gig drive. I seem to remmeber a discussion about this. Does anybody know if there is a 2 gig drive which willl work in my thinkpad with little effort? Either way, I would appreciate suggestions on where to buy the 1.2 gig or better drives. Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. ingerman@cs2.com (508) 394-4266 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 1 18:23:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA203740591; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:23:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24974; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:20:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:19:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24600; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:18:54 -0500 Received: from onyx.southwind.net (abcjr@onyx.southwind.net [204.95.83.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24593; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:18:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (abcjr@localhost) by onyx.southwind.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA19470; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:19:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:19:20 -0600 (CST) From: "Arnold B. Cavazos, Jr." Reply-To: "Arnold B. Cavazos, Jr." To: "B. Sabini" Cc: Christian Carey , thinkpad Subject: Re: TP701 Screens washed out. In-Reply-To: <327A84CA.7C37@rad.net.id> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu New drivers for the 65545 can be found at: http://www.chips.com/chipdrv.htm I would imagine that this would help. ---------------------------------------------------------- Arnold Cavazos, Jr. abcjr@southwind.net On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, B. Sabini wrote: > Christian Carey wrote: > > > > On Thursday, 31st October 1996, B. Sabini wrote: > > > > > > > While on the subject of 701's screen. I have been noticing that > > > > > whenever I connected to Multiport II, the screen got washed out. > > > > > Color seemed becoming 4 bit and the screens got very bright > > > > > But after disconnect the Multiport II and reboot it went back to > > > > > normal. Any idea. > > > > > > > > Which OS are you using when this happens? > > > > > > Win95 > > > > Have you downloaded and installed the latest Windows 95 video drivers > > for the 701C from the IBM FTP site? > > Is there any ?. I checked out > http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/dskt3.html#table-2 > but it did not mention about Win95 driver for TP701C. > > Thanks anyway, > > -- > > Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 1 18:23:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA204090605; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:23:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24920; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:20:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:16:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24134; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:16:50 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24125; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:16:43 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id SAA21133; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:19:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:19:50 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: "B. Sabini" Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: TP701 Screens washed out. In-Reply-To: <327A84CA.7C37@rad.net.id> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Friday, 1st November 1996, B. Sabini wrote: > > Have you downloaded and installed the latest Windows 95 video drivers > > for the 701C from the IBM FTP site? > > Is there any ?. I checked out > http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/dskt3.html#table-2 > but it did not mention about Win95 driver for TP701C. Whoops, sorry, there are only 701C Windows 95 audio drivers in a separate file. Does the "win95set.exe" file contain video drivers? (Is there anyone other than B. using Windows 95 on his 701C who can offer another possibility?) -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 1 19:15:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA211693713; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:15:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29347; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:14:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:12:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29208; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:12:22 -0500 Received: from dns.dmw.it (root@dns.dmw.it [194.243.52.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29202; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:12:18 -0500 Received: from dmw..dmw.it (cust2.dmw.it [194.243.52.129]) by dns.dmw.it (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA16336 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 01:52:33 +0100 Message-Id: <327A9188.149F@dmw.it> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 01:10:48 +0100 From: Fabrizio Brezzo Organization: Yamaha Music Schools of Sanremo - Taggia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Tk350c info Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hallo to everyone.I have a question for you: A computer shop have a used Thinkpad 350C 4M. ram and 265M. hard-disk. Is it too "old" for working with Win95 and sothing like MSWorks?...Really I need Access 7 that I use for my job on my pentium 133, but I think I'm asking too much for the 350C...What do you think?... and how much can be it's really price? Thank a lot Ciao, fabrizio From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 1 23:48:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA253340094; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:48:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00516; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:46:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:40:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29314; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:40:47 -0500 Received: from chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.120]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29302; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:40:43 -0500 Received: (from steverod@localhost) by chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.2/8.6.9) id UAA27264 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 20:40:40 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Rodrigues Message-Id: <199611020440.UAA27264@chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: Re: TP701 Screens washed out. To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 20:40:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: from "Arnold B. Cavazos, Jr." at Nov 1, 96 05:19:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Arnold B. Cavazos, Jr. wrote: > New drivers for the 65545 can be found at: > http://www.chips.com/chipdrv.htm > I would imagine that this would help. Have any 701 owners out there tried these drivers? I have no idea what kind of mods IBM has made to the video system, so I'm kind of leery.... > Arnold Cavazos, Jr. abcjr@southwind.net Thanks, Arnold, for pointing out this site! Steve -- Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 2 03:17:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA277442620; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 03:17:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18130; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 03:16:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 2 Nov 1996 03:13:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17544; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 03:13:49 -0500 Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@sammy.netpathway.com [206.136.255.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17538; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 03:13:45 -0500 Received: from egiles (port11.netpathway.com [206.136.255.26]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA15263; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 02:13:37 -0600 Message-Id: <199611020813.CAA15263@sammy.netpathway.com> From: "Eric Giles" To: "Steve Rodrigues" , Subject: Re: TP701 Screens washed out. Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 02:13:08 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi Steve and to everyone on the Thinkpad mailing list- Since I was in the market for a Thinkpad, I subscribed to this list a week ago to get some info. It seems to be an excellent source of information. Yesterday I received my 701C. It has the Dx4-75MHz CPU, 24 MB RAM, and 540 HD. I installed Win95 last night, and was expecting a big slowdown. To my suprise, the performance is excellent. I couldn't be happier. Now Steve, to your question. After the Win95 install, I downloaded the driver from Chips and Technologies. They are listed as 'new' in the display settings. They seem to work great without any problems. I had also used them previously on a Zenith Z-STAR EX, and they worked without a hitch. Try them; if they don't solve your problem then call IBM. I just have to say what an excellent machine this 701C is. After lusting for one for over a year, I am finally happy. Hope this helps... Eric Giles ---------- > From: Steve Rodrigues > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: TP701 Screens washed out. > Date: Friday, November 01, 1996 10:40 PM > > Arnold B. Cavazos, Jr. wrote: > > New drivers for the 65545 can be found at: > > > http://www.chips.com/chipdrv.htm > > > I would imagine that this would help. > > > Have any 701 owners out there tried these drivers? I have no idea what > kind of mods IBM has made to the video system, so I'm kind of leery.... > > > Arnold Cavazos, Jr. abcjr@southwind.net > > Thanks, Arnold, for pointing out this site! > > Steve > > -- > Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and > Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty > UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they > steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 2 03:17:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA277492631; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 03:17:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18123; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 03:16:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 2 Nov 1996 03:11:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17165; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 03:11:47 -0500 Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@sammy.netpathway.com [206.136.255.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17153; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 03:11:41 -0500 Received: from egiles (port11.netpathway.com [206.136.255.26]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA15258; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 02:11:20 -0600 Message-Id: <199611020811.CAA15258@sammy.netpathway.com> From: "Eric Giles" To: "Steve Rodrigues" , Subject: Re: TP701 Screens washed out. Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 02:00:43 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi Steve and to everyone on the Thinkpad mailing list- This is my first post here. I have been subscribed to the list for about a week now. It seems to be an excellent source of information. I just received my 701C yesterday. It has the Dx4-75MHz CPU, 24 MB RAM, and 540 HD. I installed Win 95 on it last night, and am very pleased with its performance. I was expecting it to really slow the system down, but it hasn't. I couldn't be happier! Now Steve, to your question. After the Win 95 install, I went to the Chips & Technologies web site and downloaded the new drivers. In the display settings, it is listed as 'Chips and Technologies, Accelerator' (new). I'm not sure what was changed in this new version, but everything works as well as it did with the originals. I have also used these drivers with a Zenith Z-STAR EX, and they worked great also. Give them a try; if they don't fix your problem then contact IBM. Hope this helps... Eric Giles ---------- > From: Steve Rodrigues > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: TP701 Screens washed out. > Date: Friday, November 01, 1996 10:40 PM > > Arnold B. Cavazos, Jr. wrote: > > New drivers for the 65545 can be found at: > > > http://www.chips.com/chipdrv.htm > > > I would imagine that this would help. > > > Have any 701 owners out there tried these drivers? I have no idea what > kind of mods IBM has made to the video system, so I'm kind of leery.... > > > Arnold Cavazos, Jr. abcjr@southwind.net > > Thanks, Arnold, for pointing out this site! > > Steve > > -- > Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and > Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty > UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they > steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 2 04:49:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA285728180; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 04:49:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA26290; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 04:10:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 2 Nov 1996 04:06:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25539; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 04:06:54 -0500 Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@sammy.netpathway.com [206.136.255.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25531; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 04:06:50 -0500 Received: from egiles (port11.netpathway.com [206.136.255.26]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id DAA15448 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 03:06:47 -0600 Message-Id: <199611020906.DAA15448@sammy.netpathway.com> From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: Double posting Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 03:06:16 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Just wanted to apologize for the two postings on the same subject. The first one had given me a message that my email wasn't configured correctly, so that's why I replied a second time, thinking that the first one would not be sent. Once again, sorry for the annoyance. Eric Giles From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 2 06:59:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA297735980; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 06:59:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22612; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 06:51:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 2 Nov 1996 06:46:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22331; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 06:46:38 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22322; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 06:46:15 -0500 Received: from ar-laptop.tic.ch (ar-laptop.tic.ch [193.193.146.112]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA02522; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 12:48:05 +0100 (MET) Received: by ar-laptop.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BBC8BB.803AD740@ar-laptop.tic.ch>; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 12:43:51 +-100 Message-Id: <01BBC8BB.803AD740@ar-laptop.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'Steven S. Tauber'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: ThinkPad: 701 suspend problems Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:41:45 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I too have occasional problems, but of a slightly different nature: My machine sometimes doesn't wake up from a suspend, so I need to turn it off and on to bring Win 95 back. I think this is probably related to PCMCIA cards: I have the feeling that this problem may occur in sessions during which I've removed or changed a card (I do ask Win 95 to 'Stop' the card first). It's not a big deal, but maybe someone out there will track down this one. cheers, Andrew. ---------- From: Steven S. Tauber[SMTP:STauber@cris.com] Sent: Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 1996 17:14 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: ThinkPad: 701 suspend problems I think I've traced the problematic suspend/hibernate to a Windows 95 software incompatibility. I'm still not sure what is causing the problem, but the suspend/hibernate features work fine when in DOS mode (rather than Win95). Anyway, thanks for all of the responses. In large part because noone reported similar problems related to a hardware failure, I became convinced that the situation was due to software. Steve Tauber From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 2 10:17:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA027257842; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:17:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08824; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:11:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:07:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08159; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:07:37 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08130; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:07:31 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA32618 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 08:09:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199611021509.IAA32618@aspen.wwsi.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760E 150MHz/XGA Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 08:09:11 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As I mentioned, I ordered a pair of these earlier this week. They arrived yesterday. I'm going to defer the discussion of where I bought them and what I think of there service pending the results of a price dispute I'm having with them. Anyway, the machine *screams*, regardless of all the comments about the bus speeds and so on. I'm using an extra 32MB of memory to bring the total to 48MB. Even running Win95 (which comes on it), windows pop open when you click on commands (even Word and Excel). The 1024x768 display is clear, large, and readable (at least for me) even at 3-4 feet (it's on a docking station on my desk, and I'm using the Thinkpad display at the moment). Setup was completely painless, and it detected the Dock, SCSI, and network cards no problem. So far, I am quite pleased. Pending a little cash flow, I plan to buy an additional hard drive and install RedHat Linux on it. We'll see how that goes, too! -- Steve Hultquist Business, system, network, and Internet Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Engineering Boulder, Colorado, USA 303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 2 13:48:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA060260481; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:48:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29890; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:47:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:42:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29525; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:42:28 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29518; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:42:24 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id NAA01304; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:43:32 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:43:32 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Andrew Richards Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: ThinkPad: 701 suspend problems In-Reply-To: <01BBC8BB.803AD740@ar-laptop.tic.ch> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Andrew Richards wrote: > I too have occasional problems, but of a slightly different nature: > My machine sometimes doesn't wake up from a suspend, so I > need to turn it off and on to bring Win 95 back. I think this is > probably related to PCMCIA cards: I have the feeling that > this problem may occur in sessions during which I've > removed or changed a card (I do ask Win 95 to 'Stop' the > card first). I've seen this too, mostly with Win95, sometimes with DOS, and a couple times with Linux. Go into the BIOS setup and make sure you have Suspend on Lid Close set to yes. When it won't wake up from suspend, close the lid and wait 5-10 seconds for it to suspend again (you can watch the status light). Open the lid and it'll come out of suspend 99% of the time. Whatever is going on seems to hang the keyboard, so you can't use Fn-F4 to re-suspend. Closing the lid seems to bypass the keyboard, at which point the machine returns to a suspended state, ready to wake up as good as new. :) -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 2 15:22:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA071596165; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:22:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08582; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:21:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:17:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08273; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:17:09 -0500 Received: from romulus.ihosteng.priv.no (ivarh@romulus.ihosteng.priv.no [195.0.205.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08267; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:17:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (ivarh@localhost) by romulus.ihosteng.priv.no (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA09228 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:16:59 +0100 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:16:59 +0100 (MET) From: Ivar Hosteng To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Xwindows on a Thinkpad 760ed Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have had the pleasure of upgrading my 755cx to a 760ED system. Linux has installed flawlessly but X windows does not work. I have tried both Accelerated X and XFree86 V3.2 that was released this week. Does anyone know how to run X on the inernal display at 800x600x256/16K? Cheers, Ivar Hosteng email: ivarh@ihosteng.priv.no finger ivarh@ihosteng.priv.no for my PGP key From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 2 16:40:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA080190825; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 16:40:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18708; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 16:39:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 2 Nov 1996 16:35:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18308; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 16:35:48 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18293; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 16:35:45 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA00434; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:37:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199611022137.OAA00434@aspen.wwsi.com> To: Ivar Hosteng Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Xwindows on a Thinkpad 760ed In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 02 Nov 1996 21:16:59 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 14:37:13 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There are two versions of 760 ED configuration on the "Linux on Thinkpads Resources page" at http://www.wwsi.com/resources.html. Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Business, system, network, and Internet Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Engineering Boulder, Colorado, USA 303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 2 18:03:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA088835801; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 18:03:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20258; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 16:46:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 2 Nov 1996 16:44:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19529; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 16:43:59 -0500 Received: from nethost.whanganui.ac.nz (root@nethost.whanganui.ac.nz [202.49.198.67]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19523; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 16:43:55 -0500 Received: from dialup6.whanganui.ac.nz (dialup6.whanganui.ac.nz [202.49.198.85]) by nethost.whanganui.ac.nz (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA00469 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 10:43:36 +1300 Received: by dialup6.whanganui.ac.nz with Microsoft Mail id <01BBC974.13B774C0@dialup6.whanganui.ac.nz>; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 10:45:06 +1300 Message-Id: <01BBC974.13B774C0@dialup6.whanganui.ac.nz> From: Simon J Morris To: "'ThinkPad Mailing List'" Subject: New Guy Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 10:44:06 +1300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi All My name is Simon Morris, from New Zealand. I've just joined the list, so = I'm introducing myself to you. I run a ThinkPad 760CD with 1.2mb HDD and 24mb of RAM. I intend to use the 760 as a mobile development and demonstration = platform for a software product I'm designing in Visual FoxPro. I travel = quite a lot showing this product to groups of prospective clients, so a = laptop should work in well. I also work with Microsoft Access and the other Office tools. Simon From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 2 21:40:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA110438826; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:40:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19331; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:39:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:31:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18086; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:31:46 -0500 Received: from luna.moonstar.com (root@luna.moonstar.com [208.196.76.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18079; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:31:41 -0500 Received: from lunaC7.moonstar.com (lunaC7.moonstar.com [208.196.76.136]) by luna.moonstar.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA20514 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:31:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199611030231.VAA20514@luna.moonstar.com> X-Sender: drmsmyth@luna.moonstar.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 22:32:33 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: drmsmyth@moonstar.com (William F. Adams) Subject: Access to ThinkPad Dock with SCSI CD-ROM Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is anyone on this list in Virginia? I'd like to install NeXTStep for Intel Processors 3.1 onto my ThinkPad 755C, but only have version 3.1, which doesn't seem to do network installs. If agreeable, I'd like to drop by for a visit drop my laptop into your dock to do the install... Please contact me off list if this is agreeable. In exchange, I could create a personalized TrueType signature font (typeface design is what I'm working toward learning...), or would a beta AT&T 14.4 Keep in Touch PCMCIA Modem be worth anything in this context, or perhaps credit towards getting my old 8 MB Kingston credit card RAM module (KTM-TP360/8) would be of use in this? (I just upgraded to 20MB in my 755C and have this to spare). William William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 2 22:42:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA116262404; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:40:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26691; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:37:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:35:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26285; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:35:17 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26273; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:35:14 -0500 Received: from elijah-22.d.enteract.com (elijah-22.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.69]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA13234 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 19:35:10 -0800 (PST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad: 701 suspend problems Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 03:36:34 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32801262.15423175@smtp.enteract.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:43:32 -0500 (EST), you wrote: "On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Andrew Richards wrote: " "> I too have occasional problems, but of a slightly different nature: "> My machine sometimes doesn't wake up from a suspend, so I "> need to turn it off and on to bring Win 95 back. I think this is "> probably related to PCMCIA cards: I have the feeling that "> this problem may occur in sessions during which I've "> removed or changed a card (I do ask Win 95 to 'Stop' the I haven't had this problem since I did 2 things: I upgraded to revision O of the BIOS. I set "safe suspend" for manual and auto. What this does is write your data to disk every time you suspend, just like going into hibernate mode. That way if, for some reason, the system doesn't "wake up," hitting the power switch returns you to your previous screen anyway. It's = paradoxical that, since taking this precaution, suspend doesn't fail. epbrown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 3 15:58:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA228334682; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 15:58:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14997; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 15:54:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 3 Nov 1996 15:43:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13111; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 15:43:03 -0500 Received: from siva ([207.33.153.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13100; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 15:42:56 -0500 Received: by siva (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA05120; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:46:38 -0800 From: kensey@siva.captech.com (Kensey Corp.) Message-Id: <199611032046.MAA05120@siva> Subject: Re: 755cd - 800 x 600 external monitor with 65K+ colors To: Fredmmill@aol.com Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:46:38 -0800 (PST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <961101174358_135018899@emout13.mail.aol.com> from "Fredmmill@aol.com" at Nov 1, 96 05:44:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu yes ! i remember when i was going to use the dock station for my 755cx to make use of a NEC MultiSync 21 inch monitor. unfortunately, i had to lend it to a friend for a while. but now i have it back ... i also have an STB Nitro driver. i remember someone posted a pretty big 20+ step setup procedure to do get the thinkpad to see the external monitor. does anyone have a copy of this procedure? If so, i would ~really~ appreciate it being posted so i can do the setup. Remembering the complexity of doing this, i am somewhat hesitant of doing it on my own. thanks ! doug > > I wish to run an external monitor at 800 x 600 with greater than 16 colors > (preferably 65k+ colors). Do not know how to set the 755cd up to do so. > Perhaps someone can help. I am running Windows 95. > > Thank you > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 3 21:27:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA273434449; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:27:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26255; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:25:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:20:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25507; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:20:55 -0500 Received: from mail.skyinet.net (MAIL.SKYINET.NET [206.101.197.227]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25448; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:20:47 -0500 Received: from jcms by mail.skyinet.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA07841; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:20:34 +0800 Message-Id: <327D53D6.3291@skyinet.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 10:24:22 +0800 From: "Juan Carlos M. Sibal" Organization: CPBI X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 2Gb HDD for Thinkpad 760ELD? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I'd just like to know if anyone can recommend a place that sells 2gb HDD for the Thinkpad 760ELD. I would like one that slips into the original HDD bay so I can continue using my CD-ROM in the ultrabay. Thanks in advance. Carlos Manila From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 4 06:54:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA037738474; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:54:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA08047; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:53:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:43:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07422; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:42:56 -0500 Received: from sisyphus.cs.kun.nl (sisyphus.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07416; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:42:53 -0500 Received: from atlas by sisyphus.cs.kun.nl via atlas.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.42] with SMTP for id MAA05307 (8.7.6/3.2); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:42:40 +0100 (MET) Sender: mauricek@cs.kun.nl Message-Id: <327DD6AF.2781E494@cs.kun.nl> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 12:42:39 +0100 From: Maurice klein Gebbinck Organization: University of Nijmegen, Computing Science Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701C: adding memory & suspend Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dear all, Last week I added a 16MB SO-DIMM to my TP701C, and it works great. However, I noticed that the suspend option (Fn+F4) locked the machine up. The solution was to set the Power Management of Win95 (the OS that was installed) to standard instead of advanced. This way, hibernate works fine as well. My two "obligatory" questions: ;-) A while ago someone posted a message saying it is better to set Win95's virtual memory to a fixed size instead of letting Win95 manage it itself. What size was recommended (the archive only contains the tp750 messages posted on this list?)? Furthermore I would like to know if a Win95 driver for the EPP Parallel Port exists. Best regards, Maurice -- Maurice klein Gebbinck University of Nijmegen, Computing Science Institute Toernooiveld 1, 6525 ED Nijmegen, The Netherlands Phone +31 24 3652710, Fax +31 24 3553450 http://www.cs.kun.nl/~mauricek From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 4 08:35:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA049464536; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:35:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14873; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:34:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:31:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14235; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:31:26 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14215; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:31:22 -0500 Received: from blue (blue.sa.enteract.com [206.54.253.122]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA27181 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 05:31:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611041331.FAA27181@babel.enteract.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Gene J" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:34:18 +0000 Subject: 701: Highest serial port speed? and other questions? Reply-To: blue@enteract.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi! I'm trying to find out the highest speed of the 701Cs serial port. I'm scoping out using an external ISDN modem through the serial port, and am hoping that I can get at least 128kbps out of the serial port, if not 200+kbps (probably way too optimistic). Otherwise, anyone see a PCMCIA serial port card with great than 128kbps throughput. Thanks in advance. -- Gene http://www.enteract.com/~blue IP #: 206.54.253.122 IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 4 08:35:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA049504543; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:35:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14868; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:34:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:31:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14257; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:31:32 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14236; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:31:25 -0500 Received: from blue (blue.sa.enteract.com [206.54.253.122]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA27178; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 05:31:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611041331.FAA27178@babel.enteract.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Gene J" To: Maurice klein Gebbinck , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:34:18 +0000 Subject: Re: TP701C: adding memory & suspend Reply-To: blue@enteract.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 12:42:39 +0100 > From: Maurice klein Gebbinck > > My two "obligatory" questions: ;-) > > A while ago someone posted a message saying it is > better to set Win95's virtual memory to a fixed > size instead of letting Win95 manage it itself. > What size was recommended (the archive only contains > the tp750 messages posted on this list?)? Set size should equal (RAM x 2.5), as recommended by the "Windows 95 Annoyances" WWW Page and something that I've tried and works very well for me. Also, check out the Annoyances page to find other Win95 optimization tips. > Furthermore I would like to know if a Win95 driver > for the EPP Parallel Port exists. ...so would I. :) -- Gene http://www.enteract.com/~blue IP #: 206.54.253.122 IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 4 09:05:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA054896308; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:05:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19345; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:03:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:00:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18948; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:00:38 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18935; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:00:33 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id HAA23459; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:00:22 -0700 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma847116017.023454; Mon Nov 4 07:00:18 1996 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (annex-sj4-20.cadence.com [158.140.31.30]) by cds9258.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA21363; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:00:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:00:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611041400.GAA21363@cds9258.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: blue@enteract.com From: Don Perley Subject: Re: 701: Highest serial port speed? and other questions? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 07:34 AM 11/4/96 +0000, Gene J wrote: If you're buying a PC card for ISDN, why not go with an ethernet card? -Don Perley >I'm trying to find out the highest speed of the 701Cs serial port. >I'm scoping out using an external ISDN modem through the serial port, >Otherwise, anyone see a PCMCIA serial port card with great than >128kbps throughput. perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 4 09:31:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA058107864; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:31:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23605; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:29:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:27:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23181; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:27:01 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23168; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:26:47 -0500 Received: from blue (blue.sa.enteract.com [206.54.253.122]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA27321; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:26:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611041426.GAA27321@babel.enteract.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Gene J" To: Don Perley Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:29:35 +0000 Subject: Re: 701: Highest serial port speed? and other questions? Reply-To: blue@enteract.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: Don Perley > Subject: Re: 701: Highest serial port speed? and other questions? > > If you're buying a PC card for ISDN, why not go with an ethernet card? Because I'm planning to use ISDN, via an ISDN line, to connect to my internet service provider that now has ISDN service, so I can get 128+ kbps performance. Am I missing something???? -- Gene http://www.enteract.com/~blue IP #: 206.54.253.122 IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 4 13:01:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA096570491; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:01:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29123; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:57:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:51:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28577; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:51:37 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28570; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:51:32 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11523 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:51:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199611041851.LAA11523@aspen.wwsi.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760E 150MHz purchase, full story Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 11:51:07 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu For those of you interested in how all this worked, here's the story: I found DataVision in news://comp.sys.laptops in one of the pricing articles so I hit their website and called them. They had two 760E XGAs in stock, and I bought them both. After some struggle with the credit cards, they were shipped, but, unfortunately, arrived a day later than expected (on Friday instead of Thursday). There was a mixup on pricing, and we've discussed it. It turns out that they charged me $200 more than their cost, and they had to buy them off the street to have them in stock. I am satisfied that they have told me the truth and dealt fairly with me, and I will use them as suppliers again. Because of the mixup that I had, please let them know you're calling them because you learned of them from my post? I'd appreciate it! I'll post more on the machine later, but it's *beautiful*! ssh -- Steve Hultquist Business, system, network, and Internet Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Engineering Boulder, Colorado, USA 303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 4 13:48:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA103833303; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:48:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03293; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:43:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:41:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03072; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:41:33 -0500 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03064; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:41:28 -0500 From: Received: from hpbs1479.boi.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA104872876; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:41:17 -0800 Received: from by hpbs1479.boi.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.4 Openmail) id AA274782738; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:38:58 -0800 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 96 10:38:16 -0800 Message-Id: Subject: Thinkpad Monitor To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Item Subject: cc:Mail Text Does anyone out there know of a good place to get an IBM black G70 monitor? Or how about an alternative, or better 17" monitor that will match the Dock II? Thanks, Richard Hamel Hewlett Packard Network Server Division Santa Clara, CA USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 4 13:49:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA103953343; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:49:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03559; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:46:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:44:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03332; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:44:35 -0500 Received: from vqgjx.oxy.com (firewall-user@vqgjx.oxy.com [199.248.165.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03326; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:44:30 -0500 From: Received: by vqgjx.oxy.com; id MAA21121; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:37:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from unknown(155.224.11.33) by vqgjx.oxy.com via smap (V3.1) id xmab21074; Mon, 4 Nov 96 12:36:56 -0600 Received: from ccMail by oxymail.oxy.com (IMA Internet Exchange 2.02 Enterprise) id 27E39370; Mon, 4 Nov 96 12:43:03 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:53:24 -0600 Message-Id: <27E39370.1239@oxy.com> Subject: Intro/TP 760ED modem/ int'l calls To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm new to the list and appreciate any assistance. I support several others with 75x/760x models. One user with a 760ED, 32MB RAM, Mwave 28.8 has multiple problems with dialing.: 1. Dialing from a hotel in US to electronic mail system in US. Everything works fine. Calls again. Gets a dial tone, begins to connect but does not complete the connection. The modem generates a tone which does not stop until the application is closed (cc:Mail Mobile). Retries and has same problem. Any ideas? 2. Found it very difficult to get a high speed connection (14.4/28.8) while traveling abroad. Does anyone have any experience with this? We are involved in multiple countries (throughout Asia, Middle East, Europe). Thanks again, AnitaG From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 4 14:24:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA111055480; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:24:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06648; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:21:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:15:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06040; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:15:00 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06034; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:14:56 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11960; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:15:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199611042015.NAA11960@aspen.wwsi.com> To: Anita_Goswami@oxy.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Intro/TP 760ED modem/ int'l calls In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 04 Nov 1996 09:53:24 CST." <27E39370.1239@oxy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 13:15:19 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >>>>> "Anita" == writes: Anita> One user with a 760ED, 32MB RAM, Mwave 28.8 has Anita> multiple problems with dialing.: Anita> 1. Dialing from a hotel in US to electronic mail Anita> system in US. Everything works fine. Calls again. Gets a dial Anita> tone, begins to connect but does not complete the Anita> connection. The modem generates a tone which does not stop until Anita> the application is closed (cc:Mail Mobile). Retries and has same Anita> problem. Any ideas? It's trying to get a real connection. You might try to back it down to either 14.4 or 9.6 (see comments below). Anita> 2. Found it very difficult to get a high speed Anita> connection (14.4/28.8) while traveling abroad. Does anyone have Anita> any experience with this? We are involved in multiple countries Anita> (throughout Asia, Middle East, Europe). You are experiencing the joys of trying to do digital connectivity over analog media. The telecommunications infrastructure is such that it's difficult to get a 28.8 connection when you are *local* to the remote end. When you are remote, especially internationally, it's virtually impossible. Hopefully, the modem negotiation helps you back off as needed, but this doesn't always work. Hence, my suggestion above to manually back it off. OK? ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 4 15:03:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA118517798; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:03:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13228; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:01:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:57:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12411; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:57:27 -0500 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12342; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:56:43 -0500 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA00759 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:56:01 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA847144558; Mon, 04 Nov 96 13:46:33 CST Date: Mon, 04 Nov 96 13:46:33 CST Encoding: 34 Text Message-Id: <9610048471.AA847144558@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Intro/TP 760ED modem/ int'l calls Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On several occasions I have had to go into the cc:mail mobile (or location?) setup and reduce speed to 9600kbps, especially on larger mail messages, to get it to keep from failing. Don't recall getting the tone that you are referring to, (although it's been a while). This problem was not specifically related to Mwave modems though. Other modems also had the same problem. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Intro/TP 760ED modem/ int'l calls Author: at Gateway Date: 11/4/96 12:55 PM I'm new to the list and appreciate any assistance. I support several others with 75x/760x models. One user with a 760ED, 32MB RAM, Mwave 28.8 has multiple problems with dialing.: 1. Dialing from a hotel in US to electronic mail system in US. Everything works fine. Calls again. Gets a dial tone, begins to connect but does not complete the connection. The modem generates a tone which does not stop until the application is closed (cc:Mail Mobile). Retries and has same problem. Any ideas? 2. Found it very difficult to get a high speed connection (14.4/28.8) while traveling abroad. Does anyone have any experience with this? We are involved in multiple countries (throughout Asia, Middle East, Europe). Thanks again, AnitaG From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 4 16:26:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA132382794; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:26:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27506; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:22:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:16:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26206; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:16:40 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26142; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:16:22 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id PAA13306 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:15:37 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611042115.PAA13306@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 15:15:34 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Warning on TP 3rd party disk drive carrier(s) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I put a 19mm drive into my TP755CD using a metal carrier from PS-Solutions. I am now finding that the carrier comes loose from the TP connector because the wire handle doesn't engage with the "hold down" tabs that are used with the original TP case. I carry my machine around a lot, so I expect it is working loose from vibration. I have had scan disk errors that I assume can be attributed to bad connection. This can be very "dangerous". PS-Solutions didn't have an answer to fix it, though they are willing to have me send it back. For now, I put a piece of thick tape over the drive case at the connector end to try to get pressure from the closed keyboard to hold it in place. This isn't a very good solution in my opinion, but I'll try it for now. I am not sure if other carriers are any better. If you've tried a different carrier that utilizes the hold down tabs, I would like to know. I would switch to that. Thanks Mike Redmond From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 4 16:30:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA133832998; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:29:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27517; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:22:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:18:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26517; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:18:31 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26505; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:18:23 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id QAA07086; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:19:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:19:14 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Active Matrix question and 701 w/ XFree 16bpp In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A question and a report. A pixel on my 701c's active matrix display has started to go bad. It was stuck on (blue) for a while, then went back to working, then got stuck on again, and seems to have decided to stay that way. I was wondering if there was anything I could do to save my otherwise flawless TFT. I got the XFree86 3.2 SVGA driver and installed it with Redhat Linux 4.0. I changed XF86Config to reflect a 16bpp depth and added a 25Hz clock. Fired it up and presto - X-Windows in 32k colors on my TP701. It's slow, but it makes graphics apps and web page browsing bearable now. There is a slight problem when I first start up X - the display seems to have "static" and there are vertical bars of slightly different color. But they go away if I switch to the Fn-F1 BIOS setup screen or suspend the machine, then go back to X. Same thing applies if I switch between the console and X. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Nov 4 16:53:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA137754416; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:53:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15279; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:12:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:10:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14825; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:10:23 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14712; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:10:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id PAA06904; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:08:32 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:08:32 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Gene J Cc: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 701: Highest serial port speed? and other questions? In-Reply-To: <199611041331.FAA27181@babel.enteract.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Gene J wrote: > I'm trying to find out the highest speed of the 701Cs serial port. > I'm scoping out using an external ISDN modem through the serial port, > and am hoping that I can get at least 128kbps out of the serial port, > if not 200+kbps (probably way too optimistic). Both the built-in modem and multiport serial ports have 16550AFNs that should handle 115 kbps w/o problems. I wasn't aware serial ports coudl run higher than 115 kbps. I'm not sure how the hardware works, but I suspect this is a hardware limit, since I've never seen a software option to go higher. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 4 17:42:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA144727318; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:41:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09372; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:31:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:26:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08200; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:26:16 -0500 Received: from mail2.pilot.net ([198.232.147.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08189; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:26:13 -0500 From: Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (unknown-8-248.jud.state.ca.us [206.81.8.248]) by mail2.pilot.net with SMTP id OAA29493; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 27e6c970; Mon, 4 Nov 96 14:22:15 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:22:13 -0800 Message-Id: <27e6c970@ima.jud.ca.gov> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Warning on TP 3rd party disk drive carrier(s) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.847146135" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. 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Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.847146135 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Received: from [198.232.147.11] by ima.jud.ca.gov with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 27e60a20; Mon, 4 Nov 96 13:31:14 -0800 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mail2.pilot.net with SMT P id NAA19729 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:34:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27541; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:23:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:16:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26206; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:16:40 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26142; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:16:22 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wi sc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id PAA13306 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:15:37 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611042115.PAA13306@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 15:15:34 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Warning on TP 3rd party disk drive carrier(s) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --IMA.Boundary.847146135 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part To further this line of inquiry, I am also looking for a 3rd party caddy for a TP701. PS Solutions will sell them for $50, when they get them back in stock. Does anyone have any experience with the PS Solutions caddy in a 701? I don't think that a 755 mounts a hard drive caddy the same way that a 701 does, so there may not be a mounting problem. Thanks, Mitchell Yee mitchell_yee@jud.ca.gov ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Warning on TP 3rd party disk drive carrier(s) Author: Michael Redmond at Internet Date: 11/4/96 3:15 PM I put a 19mm drive into my TP755CD using a metal carrier from PS-Solutions. I am now finding that the carrier comes loose from the TP connector because the wire handle doesn't engage with the "hold down" tabs that are used with the original TP case. I carry my machine around a lot, so I expect it is working loose from vibration. I have had scan disk errors that I assume can be attributed to bad connection. This can be very "dangerous". PS-Solutions didn't have an answer to fix it, though they are willing to have me send it back. For now, I put a piece of thick tape over the drive case at the connector end to try to get pressure from the closed keyboard to hold it in place. This isn't a very good solution in my opinion, but I'll try it for now. I am not sure if other carriers are any better. If you've tried a different carrier that utilizes the hold down tabs, I would like to know. I would switch to that. Thanks Mike Redmond --IMA.Boundary.847146135-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 4 17:42:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA144417162; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:39:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09368; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:31:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:28:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08550; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:28:07 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08543; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:28:03 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12940 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:28:33 -0700 Sender: ssh@wwsi.com Message-Id: <327E7C20.20E3F4B4@wwsi.com> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 16:28:32 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i486) Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760E 150MHz/XGA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Steve Hultquist wrote: I think it's important to let everyone know that I may be overly trusting on this one. I've received an e-mail from another person who had a similar thing happen with a pair of 701s. If you have had a problem with DataVision, please e-mail me. I will compile the complaints, and, if there are more than one or two others, I will be notifying both DataVision and IBM about the problems. I don't want to bother the mailing list and newsgroup with this too much, but it seems to me that supplier issues are one of the important elements of purchasing notebooks, especially the ones that are so difficult to find. -- Steve Hultquist Business, system, network, and Internet Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Engineering Boulder, Colorado, USA 303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 5 04:17:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA233045424; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:17:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21944; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:16:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:14:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21213; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:14:13 -0500 Received: from romulus.ihosteng.priv.no (ivarh@romulus.ihosteng.priv.no [195.0.205.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21055; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:13:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (ivarh@localhost) by romulus.ihosteng.priv.no (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21710 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:13:15 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:13:14 +0100 (MET) From: Ivar Hosteng To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: US Robotics Worldport 28.8 modem and a TP760ED with Win95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am trying to use a US Robotics Worldport Dual standard pcmcia modem on a thinkpad 760ED runnung windows 95. The problem I have is that the machine hangs when I insert the card and choose a driver (Any driver will hang the machine). The machine hangs when it is trying to enable the pcmcia card. The mouse freezes and the only solution is to switch of the system. Have anyone been sucsessfull in using this modem with the 760ED under windows. If I try to use the modem under linux it works great so I dont think its hardware related. Cheers, Ivar Hosteng email: ivarh@ihosteng.priv.no finger ivarh@ihosteng.priv.no for my PGP key From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 5 05:38:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA241860323; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 05:38:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20913; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:13:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:02:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18886; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:02:38 -0500 Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18843; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:02:27 -0500 Received: from golf.uib.no by noralf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:01:04 +0100 Received: from admorg1742.svf.uib.no by golf.uib.no with SMTP id JAA03154 (8.7.6/3.HMK for uib.no); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:01:05 GMT Message-Id: <2.2.16.19961105090215.29079c28@golf.uib.no> X-Sender: soatj@golf.uib.no X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 10:02:15 +0100 To: Mitchell_Yee , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Michael Redmond From: Thor Jensen Subject: Re: Warning on TP 3rd party disk drive carrier(s) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A > >I put a 19mm drive into my TP755CD using a metal carrier from PS-Solutions.= =20 >I am now finding that the carrier comes loose from the TP connector because= =20 >the wire handle doesn't engage with the "hold down" tabs that are used with= =20 >the original TP case.=20 > =20 I have the same problem, but my item IS BOUGHT FROM IBM AS AN OFFICIAL PRODUCT and its lousy box contained an IBM drive. I have changed tha boxes so that my new 549MB runs in the old "170MB box" =20 Thor =D8ivind Jensen Dep of Administration and Organization Theory N 5014 Univ of Bergen, Norway phone +47 55 58 21 53 home: +47 55 20 22 48 fax +47 55 59 98 90 mob: +47 946 246 90 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 5 08:40:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA260521255; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:40:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27759; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:40:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:32:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26607; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:32:37 -0500 Received: from mail.physics.ox.ac.uk (mail.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.244.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26588; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:32:26 -0500 Received: from pc138.physics.ox.ac.uk by mail.physics.ox.ac.uk with SMTP (Oxford Physics Sendmail for ) id AA12776; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:32:15 GMT Message-Id: <199611051332.AA12776@mail.physics.ox.ac.uk> From: "Geoff Hogan" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Tue, 05 Nov 96 12:33:59 +0100 Reply-To: "Geoff Hogan" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Dr. Geoffrey Hogan's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ethernet cards and OS/2 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The short version: Can anyone recommend a PCMCIA Ethernet card for use under OS/2 and Linux, dual media (10baseT and 10base2), that won't cause my TP755cx to crash whenever it tries to suspend/hibernate? 3Com 3C 589C seems to offer what I want - anyone with any experiences? The fuller version: Some time ago I asked for help from the list re my TP755cx crashing whenever it tried to suspend/hibernate with my ICCard ethernet card (D-Link DE650-CT clone) installed, under OS/2. A number of people were helpful and I traced it to one of the drivers. As a result I now have config.a and config.b for "in the Lab" (Ethernet activated, mains powered, don't try and hibernate!) and "on the road" (Ethernet driver rem'ed out, hibernation fine). This works fine (the card doesn't even need to be removed), though it is a bit cumbersome, means that I have to disable any kind of potential "accidental" suspension, such as closing the lid, etc, have to keep rebooting, and still have the occasional accident which results in the machine crashing. A colleague of mine (TP365x) running Win95 has tried my card, which works fine for him, allowing full hibernation functions. Since he was going to buy one anyway he has offered to get me one that works a bit better with OS/2. Does anyone have any suggestions for a card that will still allow me to suspend/hibernate without crashing the system, and without needing dual configs and reboots? I would really like dual media (10baseT and 10base2), and compatibility with Linux (Slackware), probably via David Hinds' PCMCIA drivers, though this isn't set up yet. 3Com 3C 589C -Combo seems to be hopeful - anyone have any good/bad reports? Alternatively do IBM do a dual media credit card Ethernet adapter? Many thanks for any advice. Geoff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr G P Hogan Laser Group, Clarendon Lab., Tel: +44 1865 272205 Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PU Fax: +44 1865 272400 UK Email: g.hogan@physics.ox.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 5 09:00:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA262472458; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:00:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01284; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:00:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:58:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00909; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:58:12 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00860; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:58:07 -0500 Received: from blue (blue.sa.enteract.com [206.54.253.122]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA02839; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 05:58:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611051358.FAA02839@babel.enteract.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Gene J" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:26:22 +0000 Subject: Re: 701: Highest serial port speed? and other questions? Reply-To: blue@enteract.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: "John H. Kim" > > I wasn't aware serial ports coudl run higher than 115 kbps. I'm not > sure how the hardware works, but I suspect this is a hardware limit, > since I've never seen a software option to go higher. There are serial ports that can run higher than 115 kbps, such as in the USR Courier I-Modem, which requires a high-speed serial card in the 210kbps range (such as the internal serial adapter card made by Hayes) to take advantage of v42.bis compression beyond the 128kbps ISDN rate. Realizing that the 701 serial port ceilings at 115kbps, I'm now trying to find a PCMCIA serial adapter for my TP701Cs that goes beyond 128kbps. I've seen some advertised here and there in the past, but now that I'm looking for one I can't find one, go figure. -- Gene http://www.enteract.com/~blue IP #: 206.54.253.122 IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 5 09:06:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA263342805; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:06:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02430; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:06:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:04:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01930; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:03:56 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01923; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:03:51 -0500 Received: from blue (blue.sa.enteract.com [206.54.253.122]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA02862; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 06:03:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611051403.GAA02862@babel.enteract.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Gene J" To: "John H. Kim" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:07:01 +0000 Subject: Re: 701: Highest serial port speed? and other questions? Reply-To: blue@enteract.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: "John H. Kim" > > I wasn't aware serial ports coudl run higher than 115 kbps. I'm not > sure how the hardware works, but I suspect this is a hardware limit, > since I've never seen a software option to go higher. There are device serial ports that can run higher than 115 kbps, such as in the USR Courier I-Modem, which requires a high-speed serial card in the 210kbps range (such as the internal serial adapter card made by Hayes) to take advantage of v42.bis compression beyond the 128kbps ISDN rate. Realizing that the 701 serial port ceilings at 115kbps, I'm now trying to find a PCMCIA serial adapter for my TP701Cs that goes beyond 128kbps. I've seen some advertised here and there in the past, but now that I'm looking for one I can't find one, go figure. Thanks... -- Gene http://www.enteract.com/~blue IP #: 206.54.253.122 IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 5 10:26:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA273847603; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:26:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16336; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:25:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:21:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15459; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:21:34 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15447; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:21:30 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04088; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:13:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199611051613.JAA04088@aspen.wwsi.com> To: "Geoff Hogan" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: Ethernet cards and OS/2 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 05 Nov 1996 12:33:59 +0100." <199611051332.AA12776@mail.physics.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 09:13:45 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >>>>> "Geoff" == Geoff Hogan writes: Geoff> The short version: Can anyone recommend a PCMCIA Ethernet card Geoff> for use under OS/2 and Linux, dual media (10baseT and 10base2), Geoff> that won't cause my TP755cx to crash whenever it tries to Geoff> suspend/hibernate? 3Com 3C 589C seems to offer what I want - Geoff> anyone with any experiences? I ran my 589C in my 755CX running 95, NT, and Linux. Never a problem with any of them. (I had the combo version, too.) ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 5 12:01:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA287803293; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:01:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02958; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:00:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:56:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02492; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:56:24 -0500 Received: from ntserver ([199.254.12.240]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02460; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:56:05 -0500 Received: from [199.254.12.245] by ntserver (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id xa003975 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:57:57 +0000 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "C2" Organization: IAC To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:55:13 +0000 Subject: Waverunner ISDN PCMCIA Card & Win95 Reply-To: c2@visicom.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) X-Info: Evaluation version at ntserver Message-Id: <16575704000243@iaco.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just purchased a bunch (I'm embarrassed to say how many) of Waverunner PCMCIA cards to be used in Thinkpads of various configurations. I was assured that this worked under Windows 95. Imagine my surprise when after having trouble locating the drivers I called IBM and they said there was no Windows 95 support for this card. How can IBM sell a PCMCIA product today without a Windows 95 driver?!?!?! After all, it's almost 1997!! I would think with the rapidly growing popularity of ISDN that IBM would pay more attention to this. Anyway, I am now going to fill out the paperwork to return all these useless IBM Waverunner PCMCIA cards. I hope others learn from my experience. - Christopher. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 5 12:36:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA293455296; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:34:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09097; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:33:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:30:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08603; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:30:44 -0500 Received: from lugs.org.sg (root@[203.127.221.100]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08366; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:30:10 -0500 Received: by lugs.org.sg (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0vKpdm-0002D4C; Wed, 6 Nov 96 01:50 SST Received: from localhost (elvintan@localhost) by dupre.lugs.org.sg (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA00159; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 01:29:38 +0800 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 01:29:37 +0800 (SGT) From: Elvin To: Gene J Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701: Highest serial port speed? and other questions? In-Reply-To: <199611051358.FAA02839@babel.enteract.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > I wasn't aware serial ports coudl run higher than 115 kbps. I'm not > > sure how the hardware works, but I suspect this is a hardware limit, > > since I've never seen a software option to go higher. > There are serial ports that can run higher than 115 kbps, such as in > the USR Courier I-Modem, which requires a high-speed serial card in > the 210kbps range (such as the internal serial adapter card made by > Hayes) to take advantage of v42.bis compression beyond the 128kbps > ISDN rate. > Realizing that the 701 serial port ceilings at 115kbps, I'm now > trying to find a PCMCIA serial adapter for my TP701Cs that goes > beyond 128kbps. I've seen some advertised here and there in the > past, but now that I'm looking for one I can't find one, go figure. I know we are talking about isdn adapters..but.. I've a hayes optima 288fm.. all hayes internal and pcmicia modems (and their communication adapters/serial cards) have this special UART chip tat looks like a 16550 but works 2x the speed, so giving 230kps I wonder if the Hayes ESP adater comes in PCMCIA ?? Elvin -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Visit NuKeM at http://home.pacific.net.sg/~alf/nukem.htm | | or the US Mirror at http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/park/9868 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 5 14:00:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA013550438; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:00:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17745; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:59:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:55:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17168; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:54:57 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17149; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:54:50 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-4 #9830) id <01IBHFAGDRKWANCLO7@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:54:42 MST Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 11:37:21 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Intro/TP 760ED modem/ int'l calls In-Reply-To: "Message dated Mon, 04 Nov 1996 09:53:24 -0600" <27E39370.1239@oxy.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IBHI59XJBOANCLO7@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > 1. Dialing from a hotel in US to electronic mail system in > US. Everything works fine. Calls again. Gets a dial tone, > begins to connect but does not complete the connection. The > modem generates a tone which does not stop until the > application is closed (cc:Mail Mobile). Retries and has same > problem. Any ideas? You could try upgrading the MWave software - the current version is 2.22 (available from ftp.pc.ibm.com in the pcbbs/mobiles dir). You could also try unplugging the phone cable from the computer when this happens - if the tone goes away then it's the modem on the other end doing it. This has happened to me a couple times calling USR modems but it was them doing it. When it happens retrying that could mean you got the same modem again on the other end. > 2. Found it very difficult to get a high speed connection > (14.4/28.8) while traveling abroad. Does anyone have any > experience with this? We are involved in multiple countries > (throughout Asia, Middle East, Europe). If you mean to the USA yes it can be a real pain. You should check out IBM's Global Network service From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 5 14:18:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA017421494; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:18:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19390; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:16:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:14:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19079; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:14:35 -0500 Received: from mail13.digital.com (mail13.digital.com [192.208.46.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19048; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:14:14 -0500 Received: from mrohub1.mro.dec.com by mail13.digital.com (8.7.5/UNX 1.5/1.0/WV) id OAA16082; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by mrohub1.mro.dec.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BBCB23.0FF5C700@mrohub1.mro.dec.com>; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:10:13 -0500 Message-Id: From: Gary Henry To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" , "'RICHARD_HAMEL@non-hp-santaclara-om3.om.hp.com'" Subject: RE: Thinkpad Monitor Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:37:30 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Richard: I took a Digital monitor took the skins off of it and brought it to a boat repair place where for $50 plus paint ($4.50) they sprayed a white monitor flat black. It looks like it was made for it and it was a lot cheaper than an IBM monitor! BTW the reason that I went to a boat repair place is that have experience painting 'plastic' (fiberglass) Gary ---------- From: RICHARD_HAMEL@non-hp-santaclara-om3.om.hp.com[SMTP:RICHARD_HAMEL@non-h p-santaclara-om3.om.hp.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 1996 1:38 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad Monitor Item Subject: cc:Mail Text Does anyone out there know of a good place to get an IBM black G70 monitor? Or how about an alternative, or better 17" monitor that will match the Dock II? Thanks, Richard Hamel Hewlett Packard Network Server Division Santa Clara, CA USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 5 14:20:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA017781603; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:20:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19613; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:18:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:16:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19408; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:16:55 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19400; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:16:52 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-4 #9830) id <01IBHFAGDRKWANCLO7@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:16:28 MST Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 12:13:33 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Intro/TP 760ED modem/ int'l calls In-Reply-To: "My message dated Tue, 05 Nov 1996 11:37:21 -0700 (MST)" <01IBHI59XJBOANCLO7@Opus1.COM> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IBHIWA8Q9IANCLO7@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Description: cc:Mail note part References: <27E39370.1239@oxy.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > If you mean to the USA yes it can be a real pain. You should check > out IBM's Global Network service ...at www.ibm.net - they are in many countries with local dial-up numbers and then you're on a network for the link back. Billy Y.. Pressed ^Z to suspend and check the www address but forgot I was on a VMS system instead of Unix..... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 5 18:52:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA069727960; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:52:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26382; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:50:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:41:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25895; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:41:09 -0500 Received: from bnr.ca (x400gate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25875; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:40:50 -0500 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:19:20 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:17:28 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:14:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:14:00 -0500 X400-Originator: /dd.id=1073097/g=daniel/i=ds/s=hammett/@bnr.ca X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars735.b.486:05.10.96.19.17.28] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Memory upgrad... From: "daniel (d.s.) hammett" Sender: "daniel (d.s.) hammett" Message-Id: <"13501 Tue Nov 5 14:17:36 1996"@bnr.ca> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Memory upgrade for TP750 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi Folks, I was wondering if I might call on the collective wisdom of this list to find out about Thinkpad memory upgrades. My situation is this: I have a TP750 (mono) with an existing IBM 8MB module (and that's when a total of 12MB was a lot of RAM) and I now want to upgrade to the max. As far as I know, that involves a 36MB module to take the unit to 40MB total. Has anybody tried this and can therefore confirm it works? Are there any particular dealers I should be contacting for the best prices and should I be avoiding some others? Do any dealers offer to buy back existing modules? IBM used to do this but seem to have stopped now. Thank you all in advance, Regards Dan Hammett. *---------------------------------------------------------------* | Dan Hammett - TN-16X Customer Support Engineer | *---------------------------------------------------------------* | NORTEL Technology, | | | Doagh Road, | Tel: +44 (0) 1232 363525 | | Newtownabbey | ESN: 6 751 3525 | | Co. Antrim, BT36 6XA | Email: dhammett@nortel.ca | | Northern Ireland | | *---------------------------------------------------------------* | Opinions expressed in this email are mine, not my employer's | *---------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 5 19:20:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA073989600; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:20:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28164; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:19:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:16:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28018; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:16:46 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28006; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:16:44 -0500 Received: from blue (blue.sa.enteract.com [206.54.253.122]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05936 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:16:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611060016.QAA05936@babel.enteract.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Gene J" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:19:41 +0000 Subject: Re: Waverunner ISDN PCMCIA Card & Win95 Reply-To: blue@enteract.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: "C2" > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:55:13 +0000 > Subject: Waverunner ISDN PCMCIA Card & Win95 > > I just purchased a bunch (I'm embarrassed to say how many) of > Waverunner PCMCIA cards to be used in Thinkpads of various > configurations. I was assured that this worked under Windows 95. > Imagine my surprise when after having trouble locating the drivers I > called IBM and they said there was no Windows 95 support for this > card. How can IBM sell a PCMCIA product today without a Windows 95 > driver?!?!?! After all, it's almost 1997!! > > I would think with the rapidly growing popularity of ISDN that IBM > would pay more attention to this. Anyway, I am now going to fill out > the paperwork to return all these useless IBM Waverunner PCMCIA > cards. > > I hope others learn from my experience. That really sucks because it seems that this IBM ISDN device is the best on the market for mobile users, and I'd figure that there would be Win95 drivers by now. I'd been tracking it for almost a year now (I think its been out longer) and was well aware of the absence of Win95 drivers according to the info on their WWW page, which made no sense. I wonder who they're marketing to, OS/2 users??? Anyhow, I hope you can return them and give them hell. I know that I'm intending to use a USR Courier I-modem at home with an ISDN line, and use the 701's internal modem for connections to POTS service away from home. I'm just trying to figure out how to get high-speed serial port in PCMCIA format (if such even exists) to take full advantage of ISDN's speed and additional compression throughput; hoping that there's a PCMCIA equivalent to the Hayes serial-ESP IDE card. If IBM had the Win95 drivers for their PCMCIA ISDN device, that would be ideal. Good Luck... -- Gene http://www.enteract.com/~blue IP #: 206.54.253.122 IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 5 20:21:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA082883259; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:20:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02958; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:17:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:14:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02421; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:14:45 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02398; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:14:27 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-d-58.usc.edu [128.125.222.130]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id RAA05559; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 17:13:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961106011402.006d5cb0@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 17:14:02 -0800 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu, hp-palmtops@ntech.com From: Randy Whittle Subject: Wireless Experiences? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I received a mail solicitation from Wynd Communications that offers a 1-month free deal to get started using their service & free use (for the month) of a wireless radio-modem. I'll not get into the details of the technology behind it (suffice it to say a couple of packet-radio networks are in place that make this methodology very workable for almost any urban-dweller--even inside buildings), but the service seems intriguing and I think perhaps worthwhile for what I could/would use it for. You can send E-mail, faxes, text-to-voice messages, alpha pages, etc. and also receive E-mail and voice-to-text messages. The long and the short of it is for $30 per month, you get 200 free messages (in/out) of 150 characters or less. Each 150 character increment beyond that is $0.05, and then special surcharges apply if you're sending stuff to faxes, text-to-voice, etc. (usually around $0.30 to $0.40 each time). You *can* get, for $150 per month, unlimited messaging capability (in & out--though I think the additional features/surcharges still apply for faxes & stuff) I'm told that 98% of their users are on the "cheapee" $30/month plan, and with a reasonable level of frequent usage, they pay an average of $50 to $55 per month (there are features in the software to automatically forward all messages over a certain size to another E-mail address--saves you from having to pay for huge messages that someone might send to your wireless address). This is a bit more than I pay for a cellular phone and frankly, would negate some of what I would use a cellular phone for anyway. I would primarily use this with my HP 200LX palmtop (because of its small size and portability), but it will also work with my IBM ThinkPad 560 (with more features, due to the Windows software), so there will likely be occasions to use it on that platform too. I am interested as to whether anyone on the list either uses or has used this wireless E-mail? Either RadioMail or Wynd (or whatever else is out there), and for that matter what the advantages/disadvantages are to using the RAM Mobile Data Network vs. Ardis & packet radio vs. CDPD. For that matter, I am interested in anyone's experiences using any particular make/model of wireless modem. The one I intend to get will be the Megahertz All-Points Wireless. I wanted the Motorola 100C or D, but it only works on CDPD while Wynd doesn't use that network. The only other option *appears* to be one made by IBM, but its a Type III card--wouldn't work in my HP 200LX. Thoughts, comments, etc. are actively requested. :-) (Just as an aside, the above--not including this line, the header, or the signature below, would cost $0.70 to receive over Wynd Mail. It is 2118 characters.) ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 6 06:03:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA147858184; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 06:03:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA13807; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 06:01:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 6 Nov 1996 05:52:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA12811; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 05:52:22 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA12780; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 05:52:15 -0500 Received: from ar-laptop.tic.ch (luzern_ppp28.tic.ch [193.193.148.30]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01402 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:53:52 +0100 (MET) Received: by ar-laptop.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BBCBD8.8EAE9080@ar-laptop.tic.ch>; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:49:25 +-100 Message-Id: <01BBCBD8.8EAE9080@ar-laptop.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'blue@enteract.com'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: 701: Highest serial port speed? and other questions? Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:47:48 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There is another approach: I know that some Zyxel modems/ISDN adapters connect with the parallel port to offer greater throughput. cheers, Andrew ---------- From: Gene J[SMTP:blue@enteract.com] Sent: Montag, 4. November 1996 08:34 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701: Highest serial port speed? and other questions? Hi! I'm trying to find out the highest speed of the 701Cs serial port. I'm scoping out using an external ISDN modem through the serial port, and am hoping that I can get at least 128kbps out of the serial port, if not 200+kbps (probably way too optimistic). Otherwise, anyone see a PCMCIA serial port card with great than 128kbps throughput. Thanks in advance. -- Gene http://www.enteract.com/~blue IP #: 206.54.253.122 IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 6 11:39:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA186908384; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:39:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12270; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:38:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:28:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11172; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:28:47 -0500 Received: from ntserver ([199.254.12.240]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11156; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:28:31 -0500 Received: from [199.254.12.245] by ntserver (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id xa004053 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 08:30:45 +0000 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "C2" Organization: IAC To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 08:27:15 +0000 Subject: Re: Waverunner ISDN PCMCIA Card & Win95 Reply-To: c2@visicom.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) X-Info: Evaluation version at ntserver Message-Id: <16304523100636@iaco.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I spoke again with IBM tech. support and they said that IBM was working on Win95 drivers for the ISDN card but is was very low priority because they didn't think there was much demand. They didn't think anything would be ready this year (if ever). Funny, I think someone should call IBM and tell them about ISDN and how many people are using it (or trying to). Furthermore, ISDN in a PCMCIA card is a natural capability for a high-end laptop like ThinkPad 760ED. I know many people who use these systems as desktop replacements and take them home at the end of the day connecting back to the office at the highest possible speed (ISDN?). Power users are well into ISDN these days and Win95 is certainly a logical choice as the O/S for this system given minimal Laptop support in NT and OS2 being out of the race for all intents and purposes. Come on IBM, get with it. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 6 12:12:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA191990364; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:12:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15403; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:11:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:09:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15136; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:09:13 -0500 Received: from gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (root@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu [129.65.26.111]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15126; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:09:08 -0500 From: Received: from [128.115.186.237] (fukatsu-mac.llnl.gov [128.115.186.237]) by gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (8.6.12/ELEE) with SMTP id JAA15801; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:08:28 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:08:46 -0800 To: linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-newbie@vger.rutgers.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux PCMCIA Modem recomendations? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I'm running Linux on my Thinkpad 755CD and I think it's time to go out and buy a modem... (The internal one isn't supported in Linux). I wanted to get some feedback or rather some recomendations from you all first. I was looking at the Megahertz XJ4288, but I read somewhere that since USR took over MHz, their products and support have gone down hill. Is this true? I have no problem with cheaper modems as long as they are reliable and compatible with Linux. I'd like 28.8 preferaply with the capability to Flash to 33.6 or higher when the time comes. Thanks, -Mike From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 6 14:12:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA213167550; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:12:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24514; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:10:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:05:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23967; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:05:26 -0500 Received: from fw1.eiws.esid.northgrum.com ([153.113.2.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23951; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:05:19 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.eiws.esid.northgrum.com by fw1.eiws.esid.northgrum.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0vLDG9-00031WC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 13:03 CST Received: from astpc35.eiws.esid.northgrum.com by mail-relay.eiws.esid.northgrum.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0vLDDJ-0008EuC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 13:00 CST Message-Id: From: "Scott A. Stratmoen" To: "Randy Whittle" , "tp750@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 06 Nov 96 13:02:22 +0600 Reply-To: "Scott A. Stratmoen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Scott Stratmoen's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Wireless Experiences? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 05 Nov 1996 17:14:02 -0800, Randy Whittle wrote: [ stuff deleted] > I am interested as to whether anyone on the list either uses or has >used this wireless E-mail? I have used RadioMail and DTS Wireless for over a year. These were choosen for marketing reasons, not technical capabilities. All three providers are equal with respect to the ability to provide the service. Their pricing plan is the real differentiator. I will be picking up a Wynd subscription in the short term. Either RadioMail or Wynd (or whatever else is >out there), and for that matter what the advantages/disadvantages are to >using the RAM Mobile Data Network vs. Ardis & packet radio vs. CDPD. RAM and Ardis are the only real alternatives for wireless mail. Not only are there no network access devices (modems) for CDPD in a form factor that you want, the overall deployment is very limited. Wide area deployment is of great interst to someone who travels to different cities. For >that matter, I am interested in anyone's experiences using any particular >make/model of wireless modem. The one I intend to get will be the Megahertz >All-Points Wireless. The Megahertz card works just fine with the RAM network. The only real limitation is that the card consumes 30mA from the host, even when not charging the internal 9v battery. This could be an issue for a HP200LX. I wanted the Motorola 100C or D, but it only works on >CDPD while Wynd doesn't use that network. The Motorola 100D is for the Ardis network. Currently there is no type II extended PCMCIA card for CDPD on the market. RAM and Ardis (as well as some of their customers) will argue to the end of time which network is better. I guess that I would have to admit to a bias, but I will leave it "with both networks should satisfy the average wireless mail user." The only other option *appears* >to be one made by IBM, but its a Type III card--wouldn't work in my HP 200LX. > IBM doesn't make the card. IBM OEMs the product from Ericsson. This card also work great with the RAM network. As you cited it is only of use in notebook computers. The real market for this card is the terminal market dominated by Symbol, Telxon, etc. (i.e. what you might find in the cab of a delivery truck) I am not aware of any other PC Card products that can be purchased at this time. ____ Scott A. Stratmoen 847-259-9600 ex 4762 strat@eiws.esid.northgrum.com sstratmoen@radiomail.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 6 15:00:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA221410444; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:00:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28623; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:59:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:58:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28462; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:58:22 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28430; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:58:08 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-08.usc.edu [128.125.223.152]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id LAA22069; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:53:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961106195349.006e8c64@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 11:53:49 -0800 To: "Scott A. Stratmoen" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Wireless Experiences? Cc: "tp750@cs.utk.edu" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:02 PM 11/6/96 +0600, Scott A. Stratmoen wrote: >On Tue, 05 Nov 1996 17:14:02 -0800, Randy Whittle wrote: >[ stuff deleted] > >> I am interested as to whether anyone on the list either uses or has >>used this wireless E-mail? > >I have used RadioMail and DTS Wireless for over a year. These were choosen >for marketing reasons, not technical capabilities. All three providers are equal >with respect to the ability to provide the service. Their pricing plan is the real >differentiator. I will be picking up a Wynd subscription in the short term. Okay Scott--I'm looking at info faxed to me from DTS ("Zap-It") and so far, I'm thinking it might be a little easier to go with DTS, based on the lower per-month charge. You mentioned something about getting Wynd--which is what I was most interested in at first. Why? Is there something better about Wynd vs. DTS? So far, the only thing that *really* "gets" to me is that RadioMail is impossibly expensive! ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 6 15:02:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA221600524; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:02:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28534; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:58:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:55:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28166; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:55:46 -0500 Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28140; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:55:41 -0500 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.f) via EUnet id UAA04654; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:55:05 +0100 Received: by yoshiwara.Germany.EU.net (5.59:8/EUnetDlan-1.24-1.2.10) via EUnet id UAA06731; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:55:02 +0100 Sender: Michael.Huehne@Germany.EU.net To: Cc: linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-newbie@vger.rutgers.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux PCMCIA Modem recomendations? References: Reply-To: Michael Huehne From: Michael Huehne Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: 06 Nov 1996 20:55:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: 's message of Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:08:46 -0800 Message-Id: Lines: 42 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.50/Emacs 19.34 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >>>>> "> " == writes: > > Hi, I'm running Linux on my Thinkpad 755CD and I think it's time > > to go out and buy a modem... (The internal one isn't supported > > in Linux). I wanted to get some feedback or rather some > > recomendations from you all first. > > I was looking at the Megahertz XJ4288, but I read somewhere that > > since USR took over MHz, their products and support have gone > > down hill. Is this true? > > I have no problem with cheaper modems as long as they are > > reliable and compatible with Linux. I'd like 28.8 preferaply > > with the capability to Flash to 33.6 or higher when the time > > comes. > > Thanks, > > -Mike Hi, I am using an USR Worldport 28.800. Works fine for me. You better should only buy PCMCIA devices which are supported by the PCMCIA Driver packet. -- Freundliche Grüße, Best regards, Michael Hühne ==================================== Michael Hühne = ____ = Lt. technische Vertriebsunterstützung = / / / ___ ___ _/_ = Email: Michael.Huehne@Germany.EU.net = /---- / / / / /___/ / = EUnet Deutschland GmbH = /____ /___/ / / /___ / = Emil-Figge-Str. 80 === === D-44227 Dortmund Germany === Connecting Europe since 1982 === Tel.: +49/231/972-1071 Fax.: -1122 #include From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 6 16:06:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA231204358; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 16:05:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04971; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 16:04:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:58:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04257; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:58:44 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04230; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:58:35 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.7.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA27041; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 07:58:15 +1100 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.7.6/8.6.12) id HAA11063; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 07:58:13 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 07:58:12 +1100 (EST) To: Steve Hultquist Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760E 150MHz/XGA In-Reply-To: <199611021509.IAA32618@aspen.wwsi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu could someone please tell me what the 760 ELD is? i've seen reference to the 760 E, 760 ED and 760 EL but not to the 760 ELD (on ibm's site) thanks, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 6 18:22:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA251412544; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:22:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18131; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:21:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:18:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17663; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:18:08 -0500 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17639; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:17:56 -0500 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA07185; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:17:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from shark (shark.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA27362 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:17:28 -0800 Received: by shark id AA25470 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:17:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:17:25 -0800 From: John Pham Message-Id: <199611062317.AA25470@shark> To: ssh@wwsi.com, Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au Subject: Re: 760E 150MHz/XGA Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've two 760ELDs for the last 6 months. It's a 100MHz Pentium with 12.1 in. SVGA TFT screen, standard 8Mb RAM, 810MB hard disk, 4x CD-ROM and Soundblaster compatible sound. They both gave me a whole lot of problems so I don't recommend it to anyone else. You could also scan for messages regarding this machine on comp.sys.laptops newsgroup as well. John Pham > From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Nov 6 14:51:06 1996 > From: Alden S Klovdahl > Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 07:58:12 +1100 (EST) > To: Steve Hultquist > Cc: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: Re: 760E 150MHz/XGA > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type> : > TEXT/PLAIN> ; > charset=US-ASCII> > Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Content-Length: 311 > > could someone please tell me what the 760 ELD is? i've seen reference to the > 760 E, 760 ED and 760 EL but not to the 760 ELD (on ibm's site) > > thanks, al > > Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 > Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 6 18:26:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA252482806; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:26:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18653; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:25:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:23:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18246; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:23:49 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18224; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:23:39 -0500 Received: from ar-laptop.tic.ch (luzern_ppp39.tic.ch [193.193.148.41]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA09511 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:26:01 +0100 (MET) Received: by ar-laptop.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BBCBDB.4153ADE0@ar-laptop.tic.ch>; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:08:43 +-100 Message-Id: <01BBCBDB.4153ADE0@ar-laptop.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'blue@enteract.com'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Waverunner ISDN PCMCIA Card & Win95 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:54:48 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A passing thought on seeing this thread: Germany seems to be the centre of the world in terms of ISDN kit. It also means that it's worth checking out German companies for ISDN PCMCIA cards. In particular look out for AVM and Dr. Neuhaus brands - these are very well respected there. Last time I looked, ISDN kit from Germany was very good and very competitively priced. Chances are, manuals in English would be available. cheers, Andrew ---------- From: Gene J[SMTP:blue@enteract.com] Sent: Dienstag, 5. November 1996 19:19 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Waverunner ISDN PCMCIA Card & Win95 > From: "C2" > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:55:13 +0000 > Subject: Waverunner ISDN PCMCIA Card & Win95 > > I just purchased a bunch (I'm embarrassed to say how many) of > Waverunner PCMCIA cards to be used in Thinkpads of various > configurations. I was assured that this worked under Windows 95. > Imagine my surprise when after having trouble locating the drivers I > called IBM and they said there was no Windows 95 support for this > card. How can IBM sell a PCMCIA product today without a Windows 95 > driver?!?!?! After all, it's almost 1997!! > > I would think with the rapidly growing popularity of ISDN that IBM > would pay more attention to this. Anyway, I am now going to fill out > the paperwork to return all these useless IBM Waverunner PCMCIA > cards. > > I hope others learn from my experience. That really sucks because it seems that this IBM ISDN device is the best on the market for mobile users, and I'd figure that there would be Win95 drivers by now. I'd been tracking it for almost a year now (I think its been out longer) and was well aware of the absence of Win95 drivers according to the info on their WWW page, which made no sense. I wonder who they're marketing to, OS/2 users??? Anyhow, I hope you can return them and give them hell. I know that I'm intending to use a USR Courier I-modem at home with an ISDN line, and use the 701's internal modem for connections to POTS service away from home. I'm just trying to figure out how to get high-speed serial port in PCMCIA format (if such even exists) to take full advantage of ISDN's speed and additional compression throughput; hoping that there's a PCMCIA equivalent to the Hayes serial-ESP IDE card. If IBM had the Win95 drivers for their PCMCIA ISDN device, that would be ideal. Good Luck... -- Gene http://www.enteract.com/~blue IP #: 206.54.253.122 IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 6 23:38:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA291141481; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:38:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11805; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:37:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:30:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11112; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:30:09 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11100; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:30:06 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17436 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 21:30:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199611070430.VAA17436@aspen.wwsi.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: No dead pixels! Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 21:30:45 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu BTW, it's worth noting that, even tho this 760E is 1024x768, none of the pixels are dead, as far as I can tell..... ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 03:09:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA017034193; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 03:09:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24462; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 03:07:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:57:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23883; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:57:32 -0500 Received: from epoch.geol.sc.edu (epoch.geol.sc.edu [129.252.31.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23863; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:57:23 -0500 Received: from flash.cosm.sc.edu by epoch.geol.sc.edu (4.1/6.0s-FWP); id AA15751; Thu, 7 Nov 96 02:56:43 EST Received: from localhost by flash.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id HAA02100; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 07:56:40 GMT Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:56:40 -0500 (EST) From: Waldemar Puszkarz Reply-To: Waldemar Puszkarz To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPad 365ED: your experiences Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I am planning to upgrade to one of the latest TP and am considering choosing ThinkPad 365ED. I would appreciate your comments, your experiences with this laptop and all that which could help me to make a better decision. TIA. Wally From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 06:08:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA034334887; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 06:08:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12138; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 06:07:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 06:00:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA11567; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 06:00:00 -0500 Received: from mail.eunet.ch (mail.eunet.ch [146.228.10.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11560; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 05:59:54 -0500 Received: from everest.esec.ch by mail.eunet.ch (8.7.5/1.34) id KAA15129; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:59:20 GMT Received: from lachen.esec.ch (lachen.esec.ch [194.191.94.158]) by everest.esec.ch (8.8.2/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA05010 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:57:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from blanc (blanc.esec.ch [194.191.94.144]) by lachen.esec.ch (8.8.2/8.8.2.1) with SMTP id LAA12279 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:55:56 +0100 (MET) Sender: carsten.seibert@esec.ch Message-Id: <3281C049.5416@esec.ch> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 11:56:09 +0100 From: Carsten Seibert Organization: ESEC SA, Cham, Switzerland X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.01 9000/715) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: TP760ED & Warm CD/FD swapping in NT 4.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I installed the new utility disk from IBM's ftp site and tried to use the warm swapping feature. That raised a few questions on my side: 1. What is the definition of "warm swap"? I assume that it means no shutdown but setting the system to suspend or standby. 2. How can I (if required) set the system to suspend under NT 4.0? Fn + F4 doesn't work for me. 3. What is the exact purpose of these command line utilities like TPFDD.EXE and TPSWAP.EXE? Any ideas or comments on my questions are greatly appreciated because I need to swap FD and CD from time to time and it would be *really* nice if I could do so without shutting down th whole system. Thanks, Carsten From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 11:18:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA072653509; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:18:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11096; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:17:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:11:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10309; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:11:49 -0500 Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10298; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:11:43 -0500 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 2820a260; Thu, 7 Nov 96 11:11:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:10:03 -0500 Message-Id: <2820a260@doblegate.doble.com> Subject: Re[2]: Waverunner ISDN PCMCIA Card & Win95 To: "'blue@enteract.com'" , Andrew Richards Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, You have to be sure that German cards also support ISDN switch types common in North America like Northern Telecom and AT&T. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 11:51:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA076545509; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:51:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15201; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:50:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:43:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14246; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:43:00 -0500 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14211; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:42:50 -0500 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA08797; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:42:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from shark (shark.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA23768 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:42:19 -0800 Received: by shark id AA10860 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:42:16 -0800 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:42:16 -0800 From: John Pham Message-Id: <199611071642.AA10860@shark> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, carsten.seibert@esec.ch Subject: Re: TP760ED & Warm CD/FD swapping in NT 4.0 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu 1. Hot swap or warm swap meaning you should be able to remove or attach devices to your system without rebooting. 2. I do have NT WS 4.0 installed on my 760ELD but have not tried to use those function yet since I know these things are not yet supported in NT itself. 3. I haven't use those utilities you mentioned so can't say what they are. I shared your frustration with not able to hot swap on a machine that's supposed to support it. I bought the external floppy attachment instead of fighting with it. It took my vendor (CompUSA) 4 months to deliver this item however. Good luck, John Pham > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 03:06:51 1996 > Sender: carsten.seibert@esec.ch > Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 11:56:09 +0100 > From: Carsten Seibert > Organization: ESEC SA, Cham, Switzerland > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.01 9000/715) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > To: Thinkpad mailing list > Subject: TP760ED & Warm CD/FD swapping in NT 4.0 > Content-Type> : > text/plain> ; > charset=us-ascii> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Content-Length: 680 > > I installed the new utility disk from IBM's ftp site and > tried to use the warm swapping feature. That raised a > few questions on my side: > > 1. What is the definition of "warm swap"? I assume that > it means no shutdown but setting the system to suspend > or standby. > > 2. How can I (if required) set the system to suspend under > NT 4.0? Fn + F4 doesn't work for me. > > 3. What is the exact purpose of these command line utilities > like TPFDD.EXE and TPSWAP.EXE? > > Any ideas or comments on my questions are greatly appreciated > because I need to swap FD and CD from time to time and it > would be *really* nice if I could do so without shutting > down th whole system. > > Thanks, > Carsten > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 14:13:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA098774012; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:13:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00550; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:12:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:07:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29538; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:07:53 -0500 Received: from home.dwave.net (root@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29515; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:07:50 -0500 Received: (from whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA29337; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:50:38 -0600 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:50:37 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Modem giveaway Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My employer (Digi International) manufacters a new V.34/ISDN PC card modem called the DataFire GO! Right now the V.34 only goes 28.8. My point is that the company is giving away five of these modems in a drawing. Details are on the company's web page (www.dgii.com). I am using one of these cards in a ThinkPad 750P and it works very well. Enjoy, Chris From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 17:05:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA136054357; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:05:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19780; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:05:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:59:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19238; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:59:42 -0500 Received: from halcyon.com (mail2.halcyon.com [198.137.231.19]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19218; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:59:31 -0500 From: Received: from karensw.halcyon.com (evt-mx1-ip90.halcyon.com) by halcyon.com with SMTP id AA12624 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:59:17 -0800 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961107215748.0067208c@halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 13:57:48 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 365ED: your experiences Cc: Waldemar Puszkarz Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 02:56 AM 11/7/96 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, > >I am planning to upgrade to one of the latest TP and am considering >choosing ThinkPad 365ED. I would appreciate your comments, your >experiences with this laptop and all that which could help me to make a >better decision. > >TIA. > >Wally > > Wally, I set out to get a 365E series (586) TP 2 months ago and was told the E model has been discontinued. I couldn't find anyone that carried it and couldn't even purchase it from IBM directly. It has been replaced by the X series (pentium). I purchased a 365X for about the same price as the 365E had been offered and have been satisfied with it. Karen, still lusting after a 560 TP From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 17:34:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA141156050; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:34:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22698; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:33:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:31:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22328; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:31:37 -0500 Received: from tribune.concentric.net (tribune.concentric.net [199.3.12.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22322; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:31:34 -0500 Received: from cliff.cris.com (cliff.cris.com [199.3.12.45]) by tribune.concentric.net (8.7.5/(96/10/25 1.9)) id RAA05117; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:31:11 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from biscuit (cnc062121.concentric.net [206.173.6.121]) by cliff.cris.com (8.8.2) id RAA01333; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:30:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <328262CE.2D32@cris.com> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 17:29:34 -0500 From: Arthur Woo X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 365ED: your experiences References: <1.5.4.32.19961107215748.0067208c@halcyon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Wally, The 365X is a very solid machine; I've purchased one recently and have been very happy with it. The 365E, as far as I know, in no longer manufactured by IBM. --Arthur From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 18:20:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA152098826; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:20:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26960; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:20:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:17:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26511; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:16:57 -0500 Received: from mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.129.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26485; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:16:52 -0500 Received: from jloyless ([207.146.142.119]) by mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA5225 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:16:16 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0b26.32.19961107181345.0131d100@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b26 (32) Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 18:13:51 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Subject: TP755CE Memory Max Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The specs on my TP755CE say that the maximum amount of memory is 40MB. Is there a way to increase this now? Thanks! Jane From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 18:20:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA152108828; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:20:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26956; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:20:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:17:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26634; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:17:38 -0500 Received: from mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.129.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26628; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:17:34 -0500 Received: from jloyless ([207.146.142.119]) by mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA5426 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:17:00 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0b26.32.19961107181431.0130f760@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b26 (32) Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 18:14:34 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Subject: IBM 2.1GB drive for TP755Cx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone priced this drive? Thanks, Jane From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 18:52:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA158880771; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:52:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29393; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:52:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:49:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29095; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:49:12 -0500 Received: from ns1.littondsd.com (ns1.littondsd.com [206.16.140.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29087; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:49:06 -0500 From: Received: from mail1. ([206.16.143.253]) by ns1.littondsd.com via smtpd (for CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) with SMTP; 7 Nov 1996 23:43:00 UT Received: from vines.littondsd.com by mail1 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA09131; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:43:58 -0800 Received: by vines.littondsd.com; Thu, 7 Nov 96 15:47:24 PST Date: Thu, 7 Nov 96 15:38:37 PST Message-Id: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: TP75X/OS-2/Banyan VINES CONFIG.SYS X-Incognito-Sn: 374 X-Incognito-Format: VERSION=2.01a ENCRYPTED=NO Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If anyone has a Thinkpad 75X machine, running OS/2 V3 on a Banyan VINES network I would desperately love to see a copy of your machine's CONFIG.SYS file. As one of the very few users of a Thinkpad at my organization, let alone using OS/2, I am at the very end of the food chain vis-a-vis getting tech support to get the TP configured to connect to our LAN. Thanks in advance. James E. Smith jsmith@vines.littondsd.com 818-707-4344 (Voice), 818-707-4343 (FAX) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 19:09:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA162371784; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:09:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00783; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:09:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:07:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00619; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:07:11 -0500 Received: from mail.herrenberg.netsurf.de (mail.Herrenberg.netsurf.de [194.163.121.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00594; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:07:01 -0500 Received: from zenon.herrenberg.netsurf.de (baiti@zenon.herrenberg.netsurf.de [194.163.121.100]) by mail.herrenberg.netsurf.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA26105 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 01:06:32 +0100 Received: (from baiti@localhost) by zenon.herrenberg.netsurf.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA18731 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:03:27 +0100 From: Friedemann Baitinger Message-Id: <199611072303.AAA18731@zenon.herrenberg.netsurf.de> Subject: Re: Waverunner ISDN PCMCIA Card & Win95 (fwd) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:03:27 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu the ibm development lab in boeblingen, germany has devloped an active isdn card which is available as: - microchannel card - pcmcia card - isa card - and very soon as a pci card drivers are available for os/2 and aix. at this time, i do not know the exact status of the windows 95 drivers. if you need further information, please let me know, i can get you in contact with the development function. > A passing thought on seeing this thread: Germany seems to > be the centre of the world in terms of ISDN kit. It also means > that it's worth checking out German companies for ISDN > PCMCIA cards. In particular look out for AVM and Dr. Neuhaus > brands - these are very well respected there. Last time I looked, > ISDN kit from Germany was very good and very competitively > priced. > > Chances are, manuals in English would be available. > > cheers, > > Andrew > > ---------- > From: Gene J[SMTP:blue@enteract.com] > Sent: Dienstag, 5. November 1996 19:19 > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Waverunner ISDN PCMCIA Card & Win95 > > > From: "C2" > > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:55:13 +0000 > > Subject: Waverunner ISDN PCMCIA Card & Win95 > > > > I just purchased a bunch (I'm embarrassed to say how many) of > > Waverunner PCMCIA cards to be used in Thinkpads of various > > configurations. I was assured that this worked under Windows 95. > > Imagine my surprise when after having trouble locating the drivers I > > called IBM and they said there was no Windows 95 support for this > > card. How can IBM sell a PCMCIA product today without a Windows 95 > > driver?!?!?! After all, it's almost 1997!! > > > > I would think with the rapidly growing popularity of ISDN that IBM > > would pay more attention to this. Anyway, I am now going to fill out > > the paperwork to return all these useless IBM Waverunner PCMCIA > > cards. > > > > I hope others learn from my experience. > > That really sucks because it seems that this IBM ISDN device is the > best on the market for mobile users, and I'd figure that there would > be Win95 drivers by now. I'd been tracking it for almost a year now > (I think its been out longer) and was well aware of the absence of > Win95 drivers according to the info on their WWW page, which made no > sense. > > I wonder who they're marketing to, OS/2 users??? > > Anyhow, I hope you can return them and give them hell. > > I know that I'm intending to use a USR Courier I-modem at home with > an ISDN line, and use the 701's internal modem for connections to > POTS service away from home. I'm just trying to figure out how to > get high-speed serial port in PCMCIA format (if such even exists) to > take full advantage of ISDN's speed and additional compression > throughput; hoping that there's a PCMCIA equivalent to the Hayes > serial-ESP IDE card. > > If IBM had the Win95 drivers for their PCMCIA ISDN device, that > would be ideal. > > Good Luck... > -- > Gene > http://www.enteract.com/~blue > IP #: 206.54.253.122 > IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com > > > > > -- Friedemann Baitinger baiti@herrenberg.netsurf.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 19:49:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA168364160; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:49:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03292; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:49:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:46:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03048; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:46:21 -0500 Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03041; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:46:18 -0500 From: Received: by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA07416 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:45:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:45:37 -0500 Message-Id: <961107194536_1383325664@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 755cd extra memory Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I wish to increased the memory in my TP 755cd. ANyone know of a good source? Thanks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 19:49:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA168324159; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:49:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03297; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:49:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:46:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03073; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:46:40 -0500 Received: from bnr.ca (x400gate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03063; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:46:30 -0500 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 01:36:12 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:11:15 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:10:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:10:00 -0500 X400-Originator: /dd.id=1688786/g=rob/i=wrl/s=dickson/@bnr.ca X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars735.b.335:07.10.96.04.11.15] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Questions re:... From: "rob (w.r.l.) dickson" Sender: "rob (w.r.l.) dickson" Message-Id: <"4397 Wed Nov 6 23:11:31 1996"@bnr.ca> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Questions re: ThinkPad 365ED Hard Drive Swap and Utilities Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Good day: I recently purchased a ThinkPad 365ED (Cyrix 5x86C-100, 8MB RAM, 540MB HD, 4XCD-ROM, 10.4" DSTN) running Windows 95. I have had the machine for about a week and a half now, and am fairly happy with it. However, I have the following questions: 1) Has anyone successfully upgraded the hard drive in on of these? I am trying to install an 810MB IBM DVAA-2810, and am having trouble getting at the drive. According to the manual, all I should have to do is remove a mounting screw from the base memory board and then remove the whole base memory board to get at the drive. However, I find that the base memory board does not want to budge, and I am reluctant to put too much force on it. It seems like there are some other clips to remove, but I don't know where. I called the IBM Help Line, but was informed that this procedure is not covered under my free support. For $3.50CDN a minute, I can call the 1-900 line to get assistance. I would rather spend the cash on having the Home Computing outlet do the swap for me ($27CDN), but thought I would check the list to see if anyone had suggestions. 2) Is this unit supposed to include the standard set of ThinkPad utility programs that seem to be included with ever other ThinkPad (battery monitor, display, power management, etc.) Some of these items can be controlled from the BIOS setup screen, but it is a bit of a pain to access this (go to a full-screen DOS shell and hit Ctrl-Alt-F11). I prefer the utilities I have on my 360Cs, and am wondering whether similar ones exist for the 365ED (or any other 365's for that matter). Thanks in advance... Cheers Rob Dickson dickson@nortel.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 20:51:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA178727907; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:51:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08628; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:51:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:48:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08251; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:48:31 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08224; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:48:27 -0500 Received: from isaiah-10.d.enteract.com (isaiah-10.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.89]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA21962 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:48:19 -0800 (PST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 and NT 4.0 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 01:50:01 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <3281ef2f.55165816@smtp.enteract.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm thinking of making the leap to NT. One of the things I've heard is that it doesn't support APM, but you can still use APM if the features = are BIOS controlled. Since the 701 does this very well, I'm wondering how = much 701 owners like the OS on this system. =20 I'm also curious about Merlin, since my 2nd HDD uses Warp 3.0, though it works so well I'd have to hear RAVES to upgrade OS/2. epbrown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 7 22:16:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA190102961; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:16:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15275; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:15:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:11:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14862; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:11:53 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14856; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:11:50 -0500 Received: from blue (blue.sa.enteract.com [206.54.253.122]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA22331; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:11:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611080311.TAA22331@babel.enteract.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Gene J" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Jane Loyless Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:15:07 +0000 Subject: Re: IBM 2.1GB drive for TP755Cx Reply-To: blue@enteract.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Has anyone priced this drive? > > Thanks, > > Jane A good source for laptop drives like the IBM Travelstar series is Micro Sense 800-544-4252. They specialize in notebook hard drives. They are knowledgable and will help you get things running. Good luck... -- Gene http://www.enteract.com/~blue IP #: 206.54.253.122 IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 10:00:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA268035252; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:00:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10372; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:00:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:49:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09206; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:49:28 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09200; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:49:23 -0500 Received: from bad_frog.cae.wisc.edu (d012013.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.12.13]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id IAA05815; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:48:56 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611081448.IAA05815@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 08:48:54 -0600 To: , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: TP 755cd extra memory Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I bought a 32M memory card for my 755CD from Admor memory for well under $300 about 3 weeks ago. It works and they seemed reasonable to work with. Admor is at (800) 213-2231. I worked with with Mike Kelly at x126. Thanks Mike Redmond -------------- At 07:45 PM 11/7/96 -0500, Fredmmill@aol.com wrote: >I wish to increased the memory in my TP 755cd. ANyone know of a good source? > >Thanks > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 14:00:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA011859596; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:59:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02877; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:59:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:51:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02407; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:51:28 -0500 Received: from shelty.sybase.com (surf0009.sybase.com [206.26.54.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02400; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:51:21 -0500 Received: from shelties.sybase.com ([157.133.211.4]) by shelty.sybase.com with SMTP; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:53:59 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961108115219.006b4208@157.133.211.3> X-Sender: jmelton@157.133.211.3 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 11:52:26 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jim Melton Subject: ThinkPad 755C unable to suspend/hibernate with Windows95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Gentlepeople, I have a ThinkPad 755C on which Windows95 was recently installed. Under WIndows for Workgroups 3.11, the Suspend function worked just great. (I never attempted Hibernate, due to lack of disk space to create the hibernation file.) However, now that I have installed Windows95 on this system, it refuses to enter either the Suspend or the Hibernate state. The symptoms are basically that any attempt (e.g., closing the lid, using Fn-F4, using the Start menu's Suspend button, using the PS2 utility's PS2 SUSpend command, or using the Fuel Gauge's Suspend button) to suspend the laptop causes: the suspend LED to start flashing; the hard disk LED to go on (solid) for 15 or 20 seconds; the machine to emit a "beep"; the suspend LED to go off; the hard disk LED to start flickering; the machine to emit a "blee-deep" sound; and then for the machine to be alive and ready to continue working! IBM has been no help at all. I have ensured that the latest BIOS is installed in the machine, that the latest ThinkPad utilities are installed, that I have Advanced Power Management activated (and have tried both version 1.1 and version 1.0), and anything else that I can think of. Does anybody watching this mailing list have a ThinkPad 755C running Windows95 that successfully suspends or hibernates? If so, I would be quite grateful if they would please contact me and help me discover how to accomplish this rather desirable goal. Many thanks, Jim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 14:30:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA018111399; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:29:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05657; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:29:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:27:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05530; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:27:52 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05508; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:27:43 -0500 Received: from bad_frog.cae.wisc.edu (d012013.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.12.13]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id NAA02089; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:27:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611081927.NAA02089@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 13:27:02 -0600 To: Jane Loyless , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: IBM 2.1GB drive for TP755Cx Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu When they first came out, I got a general price of about $1600 for the IBM 2.1G for 755 machines. That may have changed by now, but I am still assuming they will be priced at the "high-end". Thanks Mike Redmond ---------- At 06:14 PM 11/7/96 -0500, Jane Loyless wrote: > >Has anyone priced this drive? > >Thanks, > >Jane > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 14:31:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA018351494; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:31:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06055; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:31:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:29:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05675; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:29:48 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05669; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:29:41 -0500 Received: from bad_frog.cae.wisc.edu (d012013.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.12.13]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id NAA02237; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:29:09 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611081929.NAA02237@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 13:29:10 -0600 To: Jim Melton , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: ThinkPad 755C unable to suspend/hibernate with Windows95 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is probably not the problem, but it may be difficult to get the notebook to suspend if there is a network card installed. You must "shut down" the network card from the PCMCIA utility before you suspend. If you aren't using a network card, just disregard this :-) Thanks Mike Redmond ------------- At 11:52 AM 11/8/96 -0700, Jim Melton wrote: >Gentlepeople, > >I have a ThinkPad 755C on which Windows95 was recently installed. Under >WIndows for Workgroups 3.11, the Suspend function worked just great. (I >never attempted Hibernate, due to lack of disk space to create the hibernation >file.) > >However, now that I have installed Windows95 on this system, it refuses to >enter either the Suspend or the Hibernate state. The symptoms are basically >that any attempt (e.g., closing the lid, using Fn-F4, using the Start menu's >Suspend button, using the PS2 utility's PS2 SUSpend command, or using the >Fuel Gauge's Suspend button) to suspend the laptop causes: the suspend LED >to start flashing; the hard disk LED to go on (solid) for 15 or 20 seconds; >the machine to emit a "beep"; the suspend LED to go off; the hard disk LED >to start flickering; the machine to emit a "blee-deep" sound; and then for >the machine to be alive and ready to continue working! > >IBM has been no help at all. I have ensured that the latest BIOS is installed >in the machine, that the latest ThinkPad utilities are installed, that I >have Advanced Power Management activated (and have tried both version 1.1 and >version 1.0), and anything else that I can think of. > >Does anybody watching this mailing list have a ThinkPad 755C running >Windows95 >that successfully suspends or hibernates? If so, I would be quite grateful >if they would please contact me and help me discover how to accomplish this >rather desirable goal. > >Many thanks, > Jim > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 14:43:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA020502212; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:43:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07472; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:43:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:41:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07188; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:41:40 -0500 Received: from lambda.ai.mit.edu (lambda.ai.mit.edu [128.52.54.100]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07180; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:41:30 -0500 Received: (from shivers@localhost) by lambda.ai.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA22646; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:41:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:41:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199611081941.OAA22646@lambda.ai.mit.edu> From: Olin Shivers To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Good supplier Reply-To: shivers@ai.mit.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'd like to buy a ThinkPad. Everyone I ask says, "I don't know a good place to buy one, but don't buy it where I got mine." PC Connection was mentioned as an example. Could someone recommend a place that's fast, accurate, and cheap? -Olin From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 15:26:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA030814799; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:26:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11566; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:26:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:23:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11150; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:23:00 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11136; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:22:54 -0500 Received: from bad_frog.cae.wisc.edu (d012013.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.12.13]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id OAA06717; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:22:33 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611082022.OAA06717@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 14:22:36 -0600 To: shivers@ai.mit.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Good supplier Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am at a University, so we use contract vendors that give service to educational institutions. With that caveat, I have had good luck with Comark in the Chicago area for government sales. I'm not sure how they would do for "private" purchases, though if you are at MIT and purchasing for internal, you would use the government sales group. Thanks Mike Redmond ------------ At 02:41 PM 11/8/96 -0500, Olin Shivers wrote: >I'd like to buy a ThinkPad. Everyone I ask says, "I don't know a good >place to buy one, but don't buy it where I got mine." PC Connection >was mentioned as an example. Could someone recommend a place that's >fast, accurate, and cheap? > -Olin > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 17:54:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA057623680; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:54:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23054; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:53:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:48:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22382; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:48:31 -0500 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22367; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:48:26 -0500 Received: from lee.market1.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #10) id m0vLzia-001CtcC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 15:48 MST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 8 Nov 96 15:48 MST X-Sender: lee@rmii.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Jim Melton , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) Subject: Re: ThinkPad 755C unable to suspend/hibernate with Windows95 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Does anybody watching this mailing list have a ThinkPad 755C running >Windows95 >that successfully suspends or hibernates? I too have a 755C and ran into that when I first installed '95. After a lot of tinkering, asking, and trying things, the culprits turned out to be the PCMCIA cards - both of them. I have a 3Com Ethernet card for when I'm in the office and had at the time a USR Sportster modem card. If I removed both cards, the machine suspended just like it did under W'3.1. After updating the drivers to both cards to the latest off the web, I can now suspend 95% of the time without a problem. After closing the cover it does sometimes take 2 or 3 "cycles" of the suspend function before the machine actually suspends cleanly. (Leaving the cover closed forces the suspend stuff to keep trying.) My biggest remaining complaint is that after resuming I have to remove and hot-plug the modem card about 50% of the time to get W'95 to recognize that the slot isn't empty... Lee Stewart (who's grinning because he just upgraded to 36M! ;-) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 17:55:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA057923734; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:55:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23175; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:54:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:52:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22953; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:52:22 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22946; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:52:16 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA164790 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:52:12 GMT Received: from slip129-37-211-93.wi.us.ibm.net(129.37.211.93) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smagKUC92; Fri Nov 8 22:52:04 1996 Message-Id: <3283B8B2.5341@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 16:48:18 -0600 From: "Joseph C. Wilson" Reply-To: jcwilso@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Good supplier References: <199611082022.OAA06717@cae.wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Michael Redmond wrote: > > I am at a University, so we use contract vendors that give service to > educational institutions. With that caveat, I have had good luck with Comark > in the Chicago area for government sales. I'm not sure how they would do for > "private" purchases, though if you are at MIT and purchasing for internal, > you would use the government sales group. > Thanks > Mike Redmond Comark is the same outfit that owns USAFlex who, IMHO, are a bunch of liers and cheats (regular vistors to com.sys.laptops will generally agree with this assessment.). I have excellent luck with PC Connection, although I find their prices a little high than some places. For the last year or so I have purchases virtually all of our companies hardware and software through CDW in Chicago. Never had a problem, good prices, and excellent availability. Their number is 800-319-4239. Ask (or punch in) ext. 7364 for Conner. he is first rate! Good luck, Joe Wilson Milwaukee, WI From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 18:34:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA065516065; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:34:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27097; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:33:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:30:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26716; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:30:13 -0500 Received: from bnr.ca (x400gate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26688; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:30:03 -0500 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:06:45 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:03:52 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:32:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:32:00 -0500 X400-Originator: /dd.id=1688786/g=rob/i=wrl/s=dickson/@bnr.ca X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars735.b.329:08.10.96.20.03.52] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: re:ThinkPad 3... From: "rob (w.r.l.) dickson" Sender: "rob (w.r.l.) dickson" Message-Id: <"11747 Fri Nov 8 15:05:58 1996"@bnr.ca> To: puszkarz@cosm.sc.edu Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: re:ThinkPad 365ED: your experiences Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Wally: I have had a 365ED for 1 1/2 weeks now. Here are my likes and dislikes: Likes: ------ - The 10.4" DSTN display is nice and bright, and fairly crisp. - The keyboard and trackpoint are good. - The battery is easy to get at for swapping (but see comment below re: hibernation). - It is easy to install additional memory. I added a 16MB SO-DIMM without any problems. Also, the price on the SO-DIMMs seems to be a a bit cheaper than other formats such as IC-DRAM. I paid $170CDN for the 16MB SO-DIMM from Simple Technologies Canada. Since there is only one SO-DIMM slot, the maximum memory configuration is 24MB. - The machine seems quite quick, even running Windows 95 and several apps. Note that I am comparing it to my 360Cs, which is a 486SX33, with 20MB. - The power adapter is much smaller than the one that came with my 360Cs. This is nice for travelling. - The eject buttons have foldable "extenders" that make ejecting PCMCIA cards easier to do. - The 365ED includes a connector for a Kensington lock. This was sadly missing on my 360Cs. Dislikes: --------- - With the full 24MB installed (8MB built-in plus 16MB added), it takes quite a while to enter hibernate. This would not normally be an issue, since I do not use hibernate very often, but whenever you lift the keyboard to remove the battery, the unit enters hibernate mode. I am trying to see if there is anyway to change this behaviour. - There does not seem to be the usual set of ThinkPad utility programs shipped with this machine (eg. battery status, power management, audio, video). Instead, the BIOS setup screen is used for this. In order to bring up this screen, you must launch a full-screen DOS session and hit Ctrl-Alt-F11. I have recently posted to the list asking other 365 owners whether they have the utilities or not. - Although IBM claims that the hard drive is user-upgradeable (and gives you the instructions on how to do so in the manual), I have had some problems trying to install an 810MB DVAA-2810. The manual indicates that you must remove the "base memory board", and that this can be done by simply removing a mounting screw/bracket. However, I believe that there are some other mounts involved, as I have been unable to remove the board this easily. Unfortunately, this operation is not covered by the IBM Help Line, and they want to charge me either $49CDN flat-rate or $3.50CDN/minute to help me with this. Once again, I have posted to the list to get help on this. Unsure: ------- - I am still trying to get an idea of the battery life under real-life scenarios. So far, I have been playing with the CD-ROM a lot (including playing audio disks), so I don't think the battery life times I have been seeing (1 1/2 hours) are typical. In message "ThinkPad 365ED: your experiences", 'puszkarz@cosm.sc.edu' writes: >Hi, > >I am planning to upgrade to one of the latest TP and am considering >choosing ThinkPad 365ED. I would appreciate your comments, your >experiences with this laptop and all that which could help me to make a >better decision. > >TIA. > >Wally > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 19:20:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA073128818; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:20:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00225; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:19:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:17:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29936; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:17:47 -0500 Received: from mail.herrenberg.netsurf.de (mail.Herrenberg.netsurf.de [194.163.121.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29929; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:17:39 -0500 Received: from zenon.herrenberg.netsurf.de (baiti@zenon.herrenberg.netsurf.de [194.163.121.100]) by mail.herrenberg.netsurf.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA09255; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 01:17:03 +0100 Received: (from baiti@localhost) by zenon.herrenberg.netsurf.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA28728; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 01:18:13 +0100 From: Friedemann Baitinger Message-Id: <199611090018.BAA28728@zenon.herrenberg.netsurf.de> Subject: Re: Xwindows on a Thinkpad 760ed To: ssh@wwsi.com (Steve Hultquist) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 01:18:13 +0100 (MET) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199611022137.OAA00434@aspen.wwsi.com> from "Steve Hultquist" at Nov 2, 96 02:37:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > There are two versions of 760 ED configuration on the "Linux on > Thinkpads Resources page" at http://www.wwsi.com/resources.html. following the recommendation on this page i am now able to run XFree86 3.2 in 800x600x8bit mode on my 760ED. -- thanks for the pointer to this page. has anybody managed to run the x-server in 16 bit color mode? -- Friedemann Baitinger baiti@herrenberg.netsurf.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 19:40:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA075760043; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:40:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01497; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:40:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:38:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01336; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:38:16 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01326; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:38:12 -0500 Received: from isaiah-8.d.enteract.com (isaiah-8.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.87]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26880 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:38:10 -0800 (PST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Good supplier Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 00:39:53 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <3286ce0d.92828523@smtp.enteract.com> References: <199611082022.OAA06717@cae.wisc.edu> <3283B8B2.5341@ibm.net> In-Reply-To: <3283B8B2.5341@ibm.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 08 Nov 1996 16:48:18 -0600, you wrote: "Comark is the same outfit that owns USAFlex who, IMHO, are a bunch of "liers and cheats (regular vistors to com.sys.laptops will generally "agree with this assessment.). I have excellent luck with PC "Connection, although I find their prices a little high than some "places. For the last year or so I have purchases virtually all of our "companies hardware and software through CDW in Chicago. Never had a "problem, good prices, and excellent availability. Their number is "800-319-4239. Ask (or punch in) ext. 7364 for Conner. he is first "rate! :-) It just goes to show you, huh? I lurk in comp.sys.laptops (I wrote the Portable Computing FAQ) and can't recall anything negative about USAFlex. I live in Chicago and can't stand CDW, though. I'm willing to admit that my problems with CDW stem from my being a local customer = rather than a mail order one. They are totally incompetent and unprepared at = the location on Grand Avenue. On 3 seperate occasions, I've gone there to = buy something and not gotten it because it wasn't in stock. =20 The 1st time, I said okay, maybe they don't keep a lot of stuff there, and I had to wait over the weekend for a RAM module (they don't open on Saturday) to be shipped in from the warehouse. They said in the future = to check before noon and if they didn't have it they could bring it in = before closing. The 2nd time, that's what I did. I called at 7am and asked if they had the item in stock. Yep, one left, according to their computers. I get to the store and discover they item was on "hold" for someone, but because this person might not show up, it was still on the computer. And they = have no system for noting when something is on hold. I'm there at 10 minutes = to close, can't they sell me this one and give the other person one from the warehouse tomorrow? No. The last time, I was told there was "one left." I asked the person to please, please call the store and make sure they weren't holding it for anyone. No, it's free and clear. Can you hold it for me? Suuuure. I = get to the store. What, we don't stock those here, we'd have to get it from = the warehouse. Well, the folks at the warehouse were mistaken. Sorry, but that's not our problem, call the main office if you have a complaint. You'll be pleased to know that CDW gives complainers free scratch paper; I'm sure I and other former customers appreciate this. These don't count the times I returned a defective modem a week after I got it and they = tried to make me send it to the manufacturer rather than honor their own 30-day warranty. Or the time I returned a Quickcam (defective software) and was told "tough luck, buddy - that was over 30 days ago." The guy grudgingly apologized (well, he said he was having a bad day, but never actually = said "sorry) when I pointed out I'd bought the camera the DAY BEFORE! Again, folks who've only dealt with them over the phone rave, and the catalog comes in handy for driving down places with price matching guarantees. But I've given up trying to get them to take my money. epbrown =20 epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 20:43:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA084273789; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:43:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05679; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:42:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:39:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05338; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:39:25 -0500 Received: from bnl.gov (bnl.gov [130.199.128.163]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05332; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:39:19 -0500 Received: from sun2.bnl.gov (sun2.bnl.gov [130.199.54.161]) by bnl.gov (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id UAA06555 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:39:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by sun2.bnl.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA28591; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:39:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:39:02 -0500 From: bstewart@sun2.bnl.gov (Bruce Stewart) Message-Id: <199611090139.UAA28591@sun2.bnl.gov> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Good supplier Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu From epbrown@enteract.com Fri Nov 8 19:44:09 1996 USAFlex. I live in Chicago and can't stand CDW, though. I'm willing to admit that my problems with CDW stem from my being a local customer = rather than a mail order one. Again, folks who've only dealt with them over the phone rave, and the catalog comes in handy for driving down places with price matching guarantees. But I've given up trying to get them to take my money. I have had good experience with CDW for mail order. They seem to have a good stock of IBM ThinkPad options. Another suggestion for the original poster: http://www.computability.com Regards, -Bruce From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 21:05:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA087175139; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:05:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07573; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:04:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:03:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07349; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:03:05 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07343; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:03:01 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA31920; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:03:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199611090203.TAA31920@aspen.wwsi.com> To: bstewart@sun2.bnl.gov (Bruce Stewart) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Good supplier In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 08 Nov 1996 20:39:02 EST." <199611090139.UAA28591@sun2.bnl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 19:03:49 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >>>>> "Bruce" == Bruce Stewart writes: Bruce> Another suggestion for the original poster: Bruce> http://www.computability.com I concur. We often use them, and have had *nothing* but good experiences. Sometimes they don't have things in stock, but they tend to get them when they say they will, and they have been really good to us. ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 21:38:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA090877126; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:38:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10180; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:38:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:37:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10058; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:37:16 -0500 Received: from ns-prime.cais.com (ns-prime.cais.com [199.0.216.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10052; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:37:14 -0500 Received: from cais3.cais.com (cais3.cais.com [199.0.216.227]) by ns-prime.cais.com (8.7.5/8.7.5-CAIS) with SMTP id TAA23881 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:43:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:09:14 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701 Hibernation File Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a TP701/CS, 24 Meg ROM, 1.3GHDD and a hibernation file of 26 Meg. How can I get rid of this 26 Meg file. I've tried to erase it in DOS and delete in file manager to no avail! TIA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 21:47:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA091487622; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:47:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10963; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:46:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:43:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10687; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:43:54 -0500 Received: from halcyon.com (mail2.halcyon.com [198.137.231.19]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10681; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:43:50 -0500 From: Received: from karensw.halcyon.com (evt-mx1-ip50.halcyon.com) by halcyon.com with SMTP id AA14579 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:43:50 -0800 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961109024329.0067bd9c@halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 18:43:29 -0800 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: good supplier Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 02:41 PM 11/8/96 -0500, you wrote: >I'd like to buy a ThinkPad. Everyone I ask says, "I don't know a good >place to buy one, but don't buy it where I got mine." PC Connection >was mentioned as an example. Could someone recommend a place that's >fast, accurate, and cheap? > -Olin > > Olin, I've ordered many things over the years, including a thinkpad, from PC Connection and have received nothing but excellent service. Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 22:03:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA093718620; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:03:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12521; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:03:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:01:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12310; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:01:34 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12303; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:01:29 -0500 Received: from isaiah-20.d.enteract.com (isaiah-20.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.99]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA27421; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:01:20 -0800 (PST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: rj , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 Hibernation File Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 03:03:03 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <3283f252.84277@smtp.enteract.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:09:14 -0500 (EST), you wrote: "I have a TP701/CS, 24 Meg ROM, 1.3GHDD and a hibernation file=20 "of 26 Meg. How can I get rid of this 26 Meg file. I've tried to erase "it in DOS and delete in file manager to no avail! " "TIA " It is a toughie, isn't it? First, you realize that the system won't do safe suspend or hibernate without this file? And why you can't spare 26MB on a 1200MB disk I won't ask. Now, I did this once, just for the heck of it, and I think you've got to remove all the atrributes, and disable hibernate mode in the BIOS setup, and then delete it. I just did it again in Windows 95, but I think in = 3.xx you have to rename it as well because it has invalid characters in the default name. If you don't disable it in the BIOS, you'll create a new = one next time you reboot. HTH epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 8 22:47:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA098231241; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:47:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12105; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:58:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:56:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11819; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:56:27 -0500 Received: from halcyon.com (mail2.halcyon.com [198.137.231.19]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11813; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:56:24 -0500 From: Received: from karensw.halcyon.com (evt-mx1-ip50.halcyon.com) by halcyon.com with SMTP id AA15158 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:55:12 -0800 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961109025450.00688ba0@halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 18:54:50 -0800 To: "rob (w.r.l.) dickson" Subject: re:ThinkPad 365ED: your experiences Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:32 PM 11/8/96 -0500, you wrote: >Wally: > > I have had a 365ED for 1 1/2 weeks now. Here are my likes and dislikes: > >- There does not seem to be the usual set of ThinkPad utility programs > shipped with this machine (eg. battery status, power management, audio, > video). Instead, the BIOS setup screen is used for this. In order to > bring up this screen, you must launch a full-screen DOS session and > hit Ctrl-Alt-F11. I have recently posted to the list asking other > 365 owners whether they have the utilities or not. > >------- > Rob, If it helps, I just purchased a 365X with Win95 preinstalled and it has the full Thinkpad utilities. There are 3 directories: c:\thinkpad, c:\thinkpad tools, c:\thinkpad info. Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 10 05:52:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA003923145; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:52:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA14095; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:51:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:39:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA13249; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:39:28 -0500 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [198.7.0.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA13243; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:39:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (macd@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7.6/8.7/PanixU1.3) with SMTP id FAA22236 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:39:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:39:20 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Vivo streaming video -- no audio on 760cd Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anyone else use Vivo's streaming video plug-in for Netscape? Have you been able to get the audio to work? I see video, but hear silence. Vivo claims that if your PC supports WAV playback, Vivo audio will work. Not on my 760cd, it doesn't. Am I doing something wrong? Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 10 06:52:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA008476756; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 06:52:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16955; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 06:52:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 10 Nov 1996 06:49:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16699; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 06:49:21 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16693; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 06:49:17 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id DAA14614; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 03:49:09 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma847626547.014610; Sun Nov 10 03:49:07 1996 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (annex-sj4-05.cadence.com [158.140.31.15]) by cds9258.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA11485; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 03:49:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 03:49:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611101149.DAA11485@cds9258.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Michael MacDonald From: Don Perley Subject: Re: Vivo streaming video -- no audio on 760cd Cc: Thinkpad mailing list Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 05:39 AM 11/10/96 -0500, Michael MacDonald wrote: >Anyone else use Vivo's streaming video plug-in for Netscape? Have you been >able to get the audio to work? I see video, but hear silence. > If your netscape connection is via the mwave modem, then the chip may be too busy to do all sound functions. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 11 11:15:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA190598911; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:15:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12503; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:13:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:57:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10620; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:57:03 -0500 Received: from mail13.digital.com (mail13.digital.com [192.208.46.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10597; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:56:55 -0500 Received: from mroexc2.mro.dec.com by mail13.digital.com (8.7.5/UNX 1.5/1.0/WV) id KAA24527; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:47:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by mroexc2.mro.dec.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BBCFBE.0CABC460@mroexc2.mro.dec.com>; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:49:44 -0500 Message-Id: From: Gary Henry To: "'ThinkPad'" Subject: What are drivers am I missing? Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:47:56 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Due to some rather extreme circumstances I had to reload my 760Ed from scratch this week (actually I did it twice :-( ) Now I have 2 devices that I find listed under 'other devices' that do not have drivers installed and I cannot figure out what I need to do to install the driver. Anyone have an idea..... The devices are listed as: PCI Multimedia Video Device - I have loaded the Video Driver and the Video capture stuff... PCMCIA Card Services I have loaded the PC Card Director (that is the only Anyone have a clue? Thanks Gary From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 11 11:15:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA190678938; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:15:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12499; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:13:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:04:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11206; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:04:25 -0500 Received: from darwin.pacific.net.sg (darwin.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11200; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:04:22 -0500 From: Received: from alf ([203.127.221.102]) by darwin.pacific.net.sg (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id AAA14753 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 00:03:14 +0800 (SGT) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 00:03:14 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <199611111603.AAA14753@darwin.pacific.net.sg> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701C cannot go to dos :( Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I've got a serious problem. Whenever my system starts up, loads dos, etc... the screen seems to lose vertical Sync. When I start up windows in 640x480x256 mode, it gets the sync back ! And everything is ok. If i quit back to dos or shell to a full screen dos, I lose sync. again. And the screen rolls and rolls.... Here and there the screen does flicker too.. But not continuously (Like in DOS) Any one got any ideas ? Alf From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 11 12:34:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA202373687; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:34:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20193; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:33:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:30:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19964; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:30:20 -0500 Received: from mail.physics.ox.ac.uk (mail.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.244.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19937; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:30:15 -0500 Received: from pc138.physics.ox.ac.uk by mail.physics.ox.ac.uk with SMTP (Oxford Physics Sendmail for ) id AA00621; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:27:15 GMT Message-Id: <199611111727.AA00621@mail.physics.ox.ac.uk> From: "Geoff Hogan" To: "epbrown" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 11 Nov 96 16:29:08 +0100 Reply-To: "Geoff Hogan" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Dr. Geoffrey Hogan's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 and NT 4.0 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 08 Nov 1996 01:50:01 GMT, epbrown wrote: > I'm also curious about Merlin, since my 2nd HDD uses Warp 3.0, though it >works so well I'd have to hear RAVES to upgrade OS/2. I don't know whether you have had any feedback on this yet, but I have been running a Merlin Beta for a week or two on a desktop system (Pentium 133) at work, but I won't be upgrading my version of Connect on my (own) TP (755cx). Although I like a number of the small improvements from Connect to Merlin I have the low price 755cx version with no MWave, so the voice navigation is of no benefit (& wouldn't warrant me buying a PCMCIA sound card), my requirement for Java support is (currently) negligible, and likewise OpenDOC, etc. The big killer for me is that whereas Connect runs fairly happily on my TP with 16MB, I very soon upgraded my desktop from 16MB to 32MB to get it to run like something other than treacle. That done, however, I am perfectly happy with it. Now that I can get it in the UK at last, (at more or less the same price as Connect) I will get the commercial version for the desktop, but the small (for me) improvements with the much larger overheads requirement mean that I will stick with the (relatively!) slimline Connect for my TP. Geoff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr G P Hogan Laser Group, Clarendon Lab., Tel: +44 1865 272205 Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PU Fax: +44 1865 272400 UK Email: g.hogan@physics.ox.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 11 14:03:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA214768987; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:03:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23149; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:06:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:04:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22739; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:04:04 -0500 Received: from m2.boston.juno.com (m2.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.199]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22727; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:03:57 -0500 Received: (from itsmaddog@juno.com) by m2.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id MAA06218; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:50:16 EST To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Upgrading a 701C IBM Thinkpad Message-Id: <19961111.110624.25287.0.itsmaddog@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-3,5-6,9-10,15-20 From: itsmaddog@juno.com (James E. Ackermann) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:50:16 EST Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a IBM 701C Thinkpad. It has an 80486 DX, 50 MHz with 4MB of RAM on the Mother Board. I'm sure the following questions have been asked but here I go. 1. I am going to order a 16MB SO DIMM (3.3v) Chip, but would a 32MB SO-DIMM chip work in this machine? 2. I would like to upgrade the CPU to the fastest CPU that would work in this machine. I do not want to do anything more then plug the new CPU in the existing socket Any ideas or input? 3. I have 4MB of motherboard memory, it is my understanding that some 701Cs come with 8MB or more of motherboard ram. Is it possible to increase my existing 4MB of motherboard ram to 8MB or more? Again I am only interested in doing this if the increase can be installed by replacing or adding the chips in existing sockets without any soldering. I would greatly appreciate any input any one has. Thank you. Jim Ackermann itsmaddog@aol.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 11 15:51:38 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA229245487; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:51:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07700; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:48:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:42:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07025; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:42:32 -0500 Received: from pcug.org.au (supreme.pcug.org.au [203.10.76.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06991; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:41:51 -0500 From: Received: from tact.pcug.org.au (ts79.pcug.org.au [203.10.76.79]) by pcug.org.au (8.8.2/8.8.2/TIP-1.2) with SMTP id HAA14090; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 07:41:22 +1100 (EST) Received: by tact.pcug.org.au (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id SAA001.47; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:26:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199611112326.SAA001.47@tact.pcug.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 96 17:49:10 +1100 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: A happy tale - Mail order reccomendation X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <55_110_4_847752550> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Here is a happy story. I thought you'd all appreciate one for a change. I live in OZ and ordered a 16MB Memory Module for my TP760CD through Michael Paul of Portable Enhancements (in the USA) and was so pleased by the service that I thought I'd tell you all about it. I must admit I had some fears about sending my money to some faceless company overseas but my fears were eased a little by recommendations from other people in this list who had been PEP Sales customers on the past. My fears were further eased by Michael as he kept in touch with me throughout the process. He emailed me when my bank draft arrived (I don't use credit cards), and he told me when my order had been shipped. Later, when FEDEX in OZ apparently couldn't contact me to organise delivery, Michael again emailed me and asked me to contact them. My order had been handled quickly and professionally and I have nothing but praise for Michael Paul and the level of service he and Portable Enhancements offer. I have no hesitation in recommending Portable Enhancements, even if you live on the opposite side of the world. Here is some contact info I clipped from the signature on one of Michael's emails: >Michael Paul >email: pepsale2@portables.com >Portable EnhancementsTM >The Portable Upgrades ExpertsTM >Toll Free: 800-737-7693 >Phone: 714-418-0113 X102 >Fax: 714-418-0117 >Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook!! >WEB: http://www.portables.com/pep /***********************************/ /* Neil Mclean */ /* Canberra, Australia */ /***********************************/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 11 16:39:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA236618359; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:39:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12664; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:38:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:36:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12350; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:36:11 -0500 Received: from gwa.ericsson.com (gwa.ericsson.com [198.215.127.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12308; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:36:00 -0500 Received: from mr1.exu.ericsson.se (mr1.exu.ericsson.com [138.85.147.11]) by gwa.ericsson.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id PAA12653; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:35:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (screamer.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.133.13]) by mr1.exu.ericsson.se (8.7.1/NAHUB-MR1.1) with SMTP id PAA06977; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:35:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from rpc511 (pc8016.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.138.16]) by screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id QAA29741; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:34:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199611112134.QAA29741@screamer.rtp.ericsson.se> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brett Pantalone" To: , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:37:34 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: TP 755cd extra memory Reply-To: pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I wish to increased the memory in my TP 755cd. ANyone know of a good source? I just bought a 16 MB DRAM card for my 755CE from the following source. The salesperson/president was extremely helpful, gave me a good price, and the product arrived on time and in working order. I am so far very satisfied. Adam Rude, President ERUDITE PRODUCTS CORP. 409 Grand Avenue Englewood, NJ 07631-5715 TEL: 800/310-8505 (US ONLY) TEL: 201/871-7088 FAX: 201/871-8301 EMAIL: sales@epc-online.com WWW: http://www.epc-online.com HOURS: 8:30AM - 5:30PM EDT [Mon-Fri] -- Brett Pantalone Staff Engineer, Ericsson Inc. pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 11 16:42:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA236948555; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:42:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13162; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:41:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:39:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12706; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:39:20 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12699; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:39:16 -0500 Received: from able-14.d.enteract.com (able-14.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.29]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08863; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:38:40 -0800 (PST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, itsmaddog@aol.com Subject: Re: Upgrading a 701C IBM Thinkpad Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:40:32 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <328b9a96.20133342@smtp.enteract.com> References: <19961111.110624.25287.0.itsmaddog@juno.com> In-Reply-To: <19961111.110624.25287.0.itsmaddog@juno.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:50:16 EST, you wrote: "I have a IBM 701C Thinkpad. It has an 80486 DX, 50 MHz with 4MB of RAM "on the Mother Board. I'm sure the following questions have been asked "but here I go.=20 " "1. I am going to order a 16MB SO DIMM (3.3v) Chip, but would a "32MB SO-DIMM chip work in this machine? It will if one exists; I was told by CDW today that there is no 32MB chip for the 701, despite my hearing the contrary from a vendor who = offered me one for $675 (I was hoping CDW's price was lower so I could argue the guy down). " "2. I would like to upgrade the CPU to the fastest CPU that would "work in this machine. I do not want to do anything more then plug the "new CPU in the existing socket Any ideas or input? The CPU is soldered on, like most laptops, and even a skilled tech could have trouble replacing it. The maximum speed is a 586-133MHz from one of the upgrade companies, and it's running about $450 or so from what I've seen, with a 3-day turnaround. I'm trying to find out what sort of speed improvement this results in, as I'm considering it (Christmas bonus time = is almost upon us, ya know ;) =20 "3. I have 4MB of motherboard memory, it is my understanding that "some 701Cs come with 8MB or more of motherboard ram. Is it possible to "increase my existing 4MB of motherboard ram to 8MB or more? Again I am "only interested in doing this if the increase can be installed by "replacing or adding the chips in existing sockets without any soldering. Ditto for the DX-2. The RAM is soldered into place and the can't be upgraded on board. I had one but I never checked to see if there was = even room for more RAM onboard; I doubt it, though. Sorry, but between the $450 for a chip and probably anoher $400 for the 32MB RAM chip (I'm hoping), you might want to consider selling the 701 = for about $1300 (from what I've seen on the AOL classifieds and the net) and the cash and buying a Pentium system and some RAM, like the AST J-series = or a IBM 365. If you still want to stay in the subnotebook category, I've seen the Toshiba 610/620 Porteges in the low $2k range. The 560 dual = scan with extra RAM is a few hundred too high. epbrown=20 =09 epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 11 18:02:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA264463331; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:02:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20795; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:01:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:58:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20255; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:58:04 -0500 Received: from mail.pop-frankfurt.com (mail.ipf.de [194.152.32.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20245; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:58:00 -0500 Received: from ip230.ipf.de (ip230.ipf.de [194.152.33.230]) by mail.pop-frankfurt.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA28890; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:55:39 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611112255.XAA28890@mail.pop-frankfurt.com> From: "Joerg Klemenz" To: "James E. Ackermann" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 11 Nov 96 23:56:54 -0100 Reply-To: "Joerg Klemenz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Joerg Klemenz's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Upgrading a 701C IBM Thinkpad Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:50:16 EST, James E. Ackermann wrote: >I have a IBM 701C Thinkpad. It has an 80486 DX, 50 MHz with 4MB of RAM >on the Mother Board. I'm sure the following questions have been asked >but here I go. > >1. I am going to order a 16MB SO DIMM (3.3v) Chip, but would a >32MB SO-DIMM chip work in this machine? Just order an IBM Thinkpad 701 RAM upgrade! The store will know what fits. >2. I would like to upgrade the CPU to the fastest CPU that would >work in this machine. I do not want to do anything more then plug the >new CPU in the existing socket Any ideas or input? New CPU's for Laptops are REALLY expensive. But if you want it badly some companys offer an AMD K5 100MHz upgrade. Try http://www.portables.com (or so...) BTW: More RAM gives you more performance for less money in most cases. >3. I have 4MB of motherboard memory, it is my understanding that >some 701Cs come with 8MB or more of motherboard ram. Is it possible to >increase my existing 4MB of motherboard ram to 8MB or more? Again I am >only interested in doing this if the increase can be installed by >replacing or adding the chips in existing sockets without any soldering. No way sorry >I would greatly appreciate any input any one has. Thank you. > >Jim Ackermann >itsmaddog@aol.com > joerg klemenz (joergk@ipf.de) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 11 18:02:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA264503336; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:02:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20791; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:01:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:57:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20184; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:57:04 -0500 Received: from mail.pop-frankfurt.com (mail.ipf.de [194.152.32.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20178; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:56:59 -0500 Received: from ip230.ipf.de (ip230.ipf.de [194.152.33.230]) by mail.pop-frankfurt.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA28899; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:55:50 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611112255.XAA28899@mail.pop-frankfurt.com> From: "Joerg Klemenz" To: "epbrown" , "rj" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 11 Nov 96 23:57:06 -0100 Reply-To: "Joerg Klemenz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Joerg Klemenz's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701 Hibernation File Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu epbrown, the hibernation file has nothing to to with the suspend mode. In suspend mode everything is switched off only the RAM is being powered. In Hibernation mode *erverything* is switched off and the RAM is beeing written to disk. Hence the name "hibernation file" rj, try a file manager like the "Norton Commander". Or use the ATTRIB.EXE dos application to remove the Read-Only attribut. Type HELP ATTRIB or ATTRIB /? for an explanation. On Sat, 09 Nov 1996 03:03:03 GMT, epbrown wrote: >On Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:09:14 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >"I have a TP701/CS, 24 Meg ROM, 1.3GHDD and a hibernation file >"of 26 Meg. How can I get rid of this 26 Meg file. I've tried to erase >"it in DOS and delete in file manager to no avail! >" >"TIA >" > It is a toughie, isn't it? > First, you realize that the system won't do safe suspend or hibernate >without this file? And why you can't spare 26MB on a 1200MB disk I won't >ask. > Now, I did this once, just for the heck of it, and I think you've got to >remove all the atrributes, and disable hibernate mode in the BIOS setup, >and then delete it. I just did it again in Windows 95, but I think in 3.xx >you have to rename it as well because it has invalid characters in the >default name. If you don't disable it in the BIOS, you'll create a new one >next time you reboot. > HTH >epbrown@enteract.com >Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ >http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown > > joerg klemenz (joergk@ipf.de) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 11 18:34:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA273055249; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:34:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23830; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:33:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:31:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23697; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:31:34 -0500 Received: from dns.dmw.it (dns.dmw.it [194.243.52.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23658; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:31:18 -0500 Received: from dmw..dmw.it (cust5.dmw.it [194.243.52.132]) by dns.dmw.it (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA20564 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 01:10:29 +0100 Message-Id: <3287B796.127A@dmw.it> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 00:32:38 +0100 From: Fabrizio Brezzo Organization: Yamaha Music Schools of Sanremo - Taggia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu unsubscrive From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 11 20:11:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA046411083; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:11:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00193; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:10:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:05:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29703; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:05:35 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29687; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:05:24 -0500 Received: from able-11.d.enteract.com (able-11.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.26]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10270; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:04:18 -0800 (PST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: "Joerg Klemenz" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 Hibernation File Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 01:06:12 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <328cccae.27632187@smtp.enteract.com> References: <199611112255.XAA28899@mail.pop-frankfurt.com> In-Reply-To: <199611112255.XAA28899@mail.pop-frankfurt.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Jeorg, I was referring to "Safe Susend" mode. What you describe is accurate for suspend mode, but there is an option for safe suspend in the BIOS. = By safe, it means that the data is written to the hibernation file as well = as RAM so that, in the event of power loss, you can still resume the system = in the same place you left. If you'll try this option, you'll see the "writing to disk" animation come up when you suspend, rather than the screen just going blank. This option saved me lots of times when the = early BIOS releases didn't wake up successfully every time. Sorry I wasn't = clear before. On Mon, 11 Nov 96 23:57:06 -0100, you wrote: "epbrown, "the hibernation file has nothing to to with the suspend mode. " "In suspend mode everything is switched off only the RAM is being = powered. "In Hibernation mode *erverything* is switched off and the RAM is beeing = written to disk.=20 "Hence the name "hibernation file" epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 11 20:53:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA054823584; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:53:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03932; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:52:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:50:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03686; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:50:54 -0500 Received: from pluto.mail1.com ([206.79.51.29]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03678; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:50:51 -0500 Received: from mailserver.mail1.com ([206.79.51.20]) by pluto.mail1.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-28857U60) with SMTP id AAA149; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:51:09 -0800 Received: from ccMail by mailserver.mail1.com (IMA Internet Exchange 2.03 (Beta 5) Enterprise) id 00014EDF; Mon, 11 Nov 96 17:50:55 -0800 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:30:14 -0800 Message-Id: <00014EDF.3146@palmtop.com> From: joe.bormel@palmtop.com (Joe.Bormel) Subject: grinning because he just upgraded to 36M! To: lee@rmii.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Lee, (who's grinning because he just upgraded to 36M!) I would like to grin, as well. What does it cost to upgrade to 36M and how do I do it? I currently have a 16M viking memory card in my pad with a total of 24M of RAM. I am contemplating Win NT 4.0 and have heard that 32M is "the least you oughta be". BTW, thanks for the suspend info. -Joe From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 11 22:03:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA063207835; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:03:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09852; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:03:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:59:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09472; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:59:25 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com ([206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09441; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:59:19 -0500 Received: from blue (blue.sa.enteract.com [206.54.253.122]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA10799; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:58:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611120258.SAA10799@babel.enteract.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Gene J" To: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:02:22 +0000 Subject: Re: Upgrading a 701C IBM Thinkpad Reply-To: blue@enteract.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > "1. I am going to order a 16MB SO DIMM (3.3v) Chip, but would a > "32MB SO-DIMM chip work in this machine? > It will if one exists; I was told by CDW today that there is no 32MB > chip for the 701, despite my hearing the contrary from a vendor who offered > me one for $675 (I was hoping CDW's price was lower so I could argue the > guy down). Check out L.A. Trade (usually has ads in PC and PC-Computing) who lists 32MB for $536 for the IBM 701. Their phone number is 1-800-433-3726. What I don't understand from looking at their ad is that while they charge $536 for 32MB for the 701, and that 16MB for the 701 costs $169, they charge $189 for a 72-pin SO-DIMM 3.3v 16MB module. Both 16MB modules should be the same price since they should be the same identical product. At least the 16MB is cheaper when listed for the 701. Personally, I'm waiting for the 32MB to drop in price since with my luck, if I bought it at $536 today it would probably drop to $169 by the following week, much like what happened when I thought I was getting a deal when buying my 16MB module for $499. :-) I think the demand for 32MB for notebooks will drive the price of 32MB SO-DIMMs down rather soon, seeing that 32MB tends to be a present standard for new Pentium desktops. -- Gene http://www.enteract.com/~blue IP #: 206.54.253.122 IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 12 10:03:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA141091027; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:03:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06535; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:01:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:53:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05738; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:53:21 -0500 Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no (hpserv0.cs.UiT.No [129.242.16.105]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05730; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:53:14 -0500 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/IOH-1.0) id AA011960362; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:52:42 +0100 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA040910362; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:52:42 +0100 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199611121452.AA040910362@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: External video on 150MHZ TP760E To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:52:42 +0100 (MET) Cc: harald@staff.cs.uit.no X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi. Does anyone know if the 150MHZ TP760E supports external video of 1280*1024 in 256 colors? --Harald Skotnes From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 12 10:11:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA142741500; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:11:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07638; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:10:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:08:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07254; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:08:16 -0500 Received: from nationwide.pagemart.com (firewall-user@nationwide.pagemart.com [198.4.224.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07227; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:08:03 -0500 Received: by nationwide.pagemart.com; id KAA12891; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:09:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from sc3.pagemart.com(172.16.254.17) by nationwide.pagemart.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma012889; Tue, 12 Nov 96 10:09:09 -0500 Received: from ss3.mis_meadows by prime.pagemart.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07308; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:08:03 -0600 Received: by ss3.mis_meadows (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA01850; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:06:40 -0600 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:06:40 -0600 Message-Id: <199611121506.JAA01850@ss3.mis_meadows> From: rickt@prime.pagemart.com (Rick Tait) To: joe.bormel@palmtop.com (Joe.Bormel) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: grinning because he just upgraded to 36M! In-Reply-To: <00014EDF.3146@palmtop.com> References: <00014EDF.3146@palmtop.com> Reply-To: rickt@prime.pagemart.com X-Zippy: Where's SANDY DUNCAN? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ,----- | Lee, (who's grinning because he just upgraded to 36M!) | | I would like to grin, as well. | | What does it cost to upgrade to 36M and how do I do it? | | I currently have a 16M viking memory card in my pad with | a total of 24M of RAM. I am contemplating Win NT 4.0 and | have heard that 32M is "the least you oughta be". `----- Joe, I run NT4.0 Workstation on my TP760c, which has 24MB RAM and he runs just fine. It can get a little sticky with say, Netscape, Word, Eudora Pro, and Image Composer running, but if you can handle having only three really big apps going on at once, its great. One warning though - if you can get away with it - DON'T load the MWave drivers. They have an 11MB memory footprint!!! So, in the interest of saving some K, I don't have them on my 760c (I use a Megahertz XJ2288) but on my 755cx, I did load them, simply because I have 40MB on there, and I don't notice the memory loss as much. Hope this helps, .rickt From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 12 10:20:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA144042049; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:20:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08472; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:18:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:17:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08327; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:17:03 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08320; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:16:59 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18248; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:17:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199611121517.IAA18248@aspen.wwsi.com> To: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: External video on 150MHZ TP760E In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:52:42 +0100." <199611121452.AA040910362@haralds.cs.uit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:17:56 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >>>>> "Harald" == Harald Skotnes writes: Harald> Hi. Does anyone know if the 150MHZ TP760E supports external Harald> video of 1280*1024 in 256 colors? According to the users' guide, the answer is "yes". I haven't connected it to a monitor, yet. ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 12 17:39:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA230028396; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:39:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21212; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:38:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:26:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19972; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:26:47 -0500 Received: from ucs.orst.edu (mosleys@UCS.ORST.EDU [128.193.4.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19940; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:26:35 -0500 Received: by ucs.orst.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/13Sep96-1023AM) id AA10858; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:25:47 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:25:46 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Mosley To: epbrown Cc: Joerg Klemenz , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 Hibernation File In-Reply-To: <328cccae.27632187@smtp.enteract.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Not to beat a dead horse, but (regarding the original poster's problem of huge Hib files in light of his RAM upgrade) there is another alternative to totally doing away with the hibernation file. The TP701 Bios allows you to specify the size of your hib file. You can make it as small as 4MB, even if you are saddled with the burden of 24MB RAM on your TP 701! I just thought I'd mention that, even though epbrown and Joerg surely already know this, just thought I would tell everyone else ... --Steph From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 12 17:39:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA230018393; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:39:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21217; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:38:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:33:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20496; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:33:14 -0500 Received: from ucs.orst.edu (mosleys@UCS.ORST.EDU [128.193.4.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20489; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:33:11 -0500 Received: by ucs.orst.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/13Sep96-1023AM) id AA11325; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:32:48 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:32:47 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Mosley To: Gene J Cc: epbrown , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Upgrading a 701C IBM Thinkpad In-Reply-To: <199611120258.SAA10799@babel.enteract.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Wow, I am mixed up. Could everyone who has hard facts please post what price you were quoted for a 16MB so dimm 3.3v and same for 32MB? I called CDW and they told me $246.00 for the 16MB, who is offering 16MB for $169? Are you all quoting in $US? Do vendors quote a higher price if you tell them you have a TP? Does anyone know of a WWW page that will show the lowest current price quotes for a 16MB and 32MB so dimm for the TP701? Please un-mix me! --Steph From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 12 20:26:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA264818383; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:26:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03082; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:25:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:21:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02602; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:21:41 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02596; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:21:37 -0500 Received: from ac133.du.pipex.com (ac133.du.pipex.com [193.130.242.133]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA16640; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 02:23:53 +0100 (MET) Received: by ac133.du.pipex.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBD100.72443B20@ac133.du.pipex.com>; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 01:17:33 +-100 Message-Id: <01BBD100.72443B20@ac133.du.pipex.com> From: Andrew Richards To: "'Stephen Mosley'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Upgrading a 701C IBM Thinkpad Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 01:17:30 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Try searching on www.spectrum-t.com - they're not the cheapest, but they are online. ---------- From: Stephen Mosley[SMTP:mosleys@ucs.orst.edu] Sent: Dienstag, 12. November 1996 15:32 To: Gene J Cc: epbrown; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Upgrading a 701C IBM Thinkpad Wow, I am mixed up. Could everyone who has hard facts please post what price you were quoted for a 16MB so dimm 3.3v and same for 32MB? I called CDW and they told me $246.00 for the 16MB, who is offering 16MB for $169? Are you all quoting in $US? Do vendors quote a higher price if you tell them you have a TP? Does anyone know of a WWW page that will show the lowest current price quotes for a 16MB and 32MB so dimm for the TP701? Please un-mix me! --Steph From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 12 21:34:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA271782471; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:34:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09026; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:33:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:30:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08657; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:30:12 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08648; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:30:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id VAA25794; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:31:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:31:32 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: memory sources Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Try http://www.thechipmerchant.com They list 3.3v 16MB SO-DIMMs at $120. Dunno if that's the one the TP701 needs, but you can call and ask them. I've ordered from them before and they've always been very helpful. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 13 08:31:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA039751880; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:31:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00284; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:30:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:23:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29258; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:23:49 -0500 Received: from bnr.ca (x400gate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29234; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:23:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199611131323.IAA29234@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from bcarsfba by bnr.ca id <19961113061640-9@bnr.ca>; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 01:18:03 -0500 Received: from bnr.ca by bcarsfba.bnr.ca id <27235-0@bcarsfba.bnr.ca>; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:14:08 -0500 Date: 12 Nov 1996 22:13 EST Sender: "rob (w.r.l.) dickson" To: mosleys@UCS.ORST.EDU Cc: blue@enteract.com, epbrown@enteract.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "rob (w.r.l.) dickson" Subject: Re: Upgrading a 701C IBM Thinkpad Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In message "Re: Upgrading a 701C IBM Thinkpad", 'mosleys@ucs.orst.edu' writes: >Wow, I am mixed up. Could everyone who has hard facts please post what >price you were quoted for a 16MB so dimm 3.3v and same for 32MB? > >I called CDW and they told me $246.00 for the 16MB, who is offering 16MB >for $169? Are you all quoting in $US? Do vendors quote a higher price if >you tell them you have a TP? > >Does anyone know of a WWW page that will show the lowest current price >quotes for a 16MB and 32MB so dimm for the TP701? > >Please un-mix me! > >--Steph Steph: I recently purchased a 16MB 3.3V SO-DIMM for my TP 365ED for $172CDN, which converts to around $129US. The vendor was Simple Technology Canada in Toronto. Their phone number is (905) 238-3300, and the product number is STM-TP365/16. The only drawback is that they do not deal with "end users" directly, so I had to deal with my local Future Shop store. However, they were very prompt, and shipped the package overnight via FedEx to the Future Shop store here in Ottawa. The Future Shop did not mark up the price either (quite surprising!). The memory has worked without a hitch, and Simple Technologies has a lifetime warranty and a compatibility warranty on their memory products. It would probably be worth checking with Simple Technologies in the US. Their website is at www.simpletech.com. I would expect that their price is comparable to what I paid here in Canada. You will have to determine whether the 365ED SO-DIMM works in the 701C -- I believe the 365ED uses non-parity memory, not sure about the 701C. If the memory is not compatible, they likely have a different model for the 701C. Does anyone make a 32MB SO-DIMM? I was under the impression that 16MB was the largest size available. Cheers, Rob Dickson dickson@nortel.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 13 08:31:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA039791886; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:31:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00278; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:30:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:23:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29279; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:23:56 -0500 Received: from bnr.ca (x400gate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29250; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:23:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199611131323.IAA29250@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from bcarsfba by bnr.ca id <19961113054414-41@bnr.ca>; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 00:58:48 -0500 Received: from bnr.ca by bcarsfba.bnr.ca id <27125-0@bcarsfba.bnr.ca>; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:12:11 -0500 Date: 12 Nov 1996 22:11 EST Sender: "rob (w.r.l.) dickson" To: karensw@halcyon.com Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "rob (w.r.l.) dickson" Subject: re:ThinkPad 365ED: your experiences Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In message "re:ThinkPad 365ED: your experiences", 'karensw@halcyon.com' writes: [ snip ] > >Rob, > >If it helps, I just purchased a 365X with Win95 preinstalled and it has the >full Thinkpad utilities. There are 3 directories: c:\thinkpad, c:\thinkpad >tools, c:\thinkpad info. > >Karen > Karen: I also have these three directories, but in the c:\thinkpad tools directory, I only have the following tools: "Create System Disks" "Diskette Factory" "Emergency Recovery Utility" Can you please tell me what tools you have in your c:\thinkpad tools directory. I wonder if the tools on the 365X will work on the 365ED. Thanks in advance... Cheers, Rob From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 13 15:17:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA103866232; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:17:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14375; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:16:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:06:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12867; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:06:38 -0500 Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (phr@netcom19.netcom.com [192.100.81.132]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12861; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:06:31 -0500 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id MAA29815; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:06:15 -0800 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:06:15 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199611132006.MAA29815@netcom19.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: plug tip for thinkpad ac adapter Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I need a 755-style plug tip for the portable AC adapter, FRU P/N 85G4952. This is the adapter that hangs from the wall by a short IEC cord. It is shipped with a tip for the 701 and a tip for the 755 and you plug the appropriate one in, normally permanently (you can pry it out if you try hard, but it's a pain). Does anyone know where I can get one of these tips? Is there an IBM part number for it? I called tech support about getting another one last time, and I had to get a whole new power brick. Do any 701 owners out there have a spare 755 tip they want to sell me? I'll happily pay say $10 for one, or will cut a custom CD-ROM for you if you can get me the data somehow, or whatever. Thanks Paul From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 13 17:16:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA122503381; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:16:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26426; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:15:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:10:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25839; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:10:25 -0500 Received: from mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov (root@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov [157.132.103.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25811; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:10:11 -0500 Received: from freke.ssds.com (freke.mcmurdo.gov [157.132.106.108]) by mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov (8.8.2/8.8.0) with SMTP id WAA25827 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:10:07 GMT Message-Id: <3.0b35.32.19961114105004.00749070@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov> X-Sender: cds@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b35 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:09:20 +1300 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Chris Liljenstolpe Subject: Problems with IBM service Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greetings, I am looking (and I was just hoping that someone here would know who to vent on at IBM) for resolution for a problem with my thinkpad. Here's a brief synopsis of my problem: 1) Some months ago, my Thinkpad went in for easyserv repair (the power connector broke). Before then my serial port on the back of the thinkpad worked. 2) About a week before I left for Antarctica (where I am now) I discovered that my serial port was not working. I could not use it for a direct connection to another machine, and I could not use it to talk to my digital camera. It did pass an EasyStart diagnostic (without a cable attached). 3) I called IBM service and was told by a pretty snotty young woman that what I was doing was not supported (i.e. using the serial port to talk to anything but a modem) and since EasyStart passed, it had to be a program or cable problem. She would not listen to the dignositcs I did that seemed to point at the machine, etc - and closed my call for me :( 4) I get down here to Antarctica, and use different target machines for the direct connection and it works with a compaq luggable, but not my Thinkpad (Procomm+ on both, same cable, etc.). Also, another machine is able to download my camera, but my Thinkpad is not (again, same software, same cable). 5) I call service again. Good tech this time has me put a loopback cable on the serial port (the first tech never mentioned using a loopback - so I figured the EasyStart diagnostics did not deal with a cable loopback), and guess what - it passes without the loopback, but not with it. He then says "just bring it into your local factory rep, or we can EasyService it." At that point I blew up - IBM has a pretty good service network, but the nearest facility is Christchurch, New Zealand (about an 8 hour military air flight from here) and FedEx definately does not deliver to Antarctica. So now I am stuck - I have a broken laptop, which IBM refused to deal with before I left CONUS, and now I can not get it fixed until after I return to the states - sometime in March of 1997. In the mean time I get to carry around two machines (the Thinkpad and a 30+ lb Compaq luggable) because the Thinkpad can not do something as simple as a direct connect serial connection to another computer. Needless to say - I am not really thrilled with IBM and am seriously considering not buying IBM the next time around. I spent good money for support when I bought the IBM, and IBM has not delivered. I would like to "discuss" this with someone at IBM who is not a worker drone. Any suggestions on contacts within their service or PC Co. organization? -=Chris -- Chris Liljenstolpe, ASA - McMurdo Network Engineer Work 165/NOC, Tel X-2253, Pager #502 Res. 209/321, Tel X-2673 mailto:cds@mcmurdo.gov mailto:cds@mcmsun5 http://www.io.com/~cds/ PGP Key 2047/37DDC209 E0 0F 16 97 33 16 F0 DD 41 B6 BC AF 20 31 AC FC From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 13 19:00:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA136579604; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:00:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05354; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:59:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:49:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04572; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:49:05 -0500 Received: from umunhum.Stanford.EDU (Umunhum.Stanford.EDU [171.64.74.80]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04564; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:48:59 -0500 Received: (from kevin@localhost) by umunhum.Stanford.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA03779 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:48:55 -0800 From: "Kevin W. Rudd" Message-Id: <199611132348.PAA03779@umunhum.Stanford.EDU> Subject: query for info x2: price for tp750c, bypass of rom passwd To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:48:55 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu someone at the campus computer centr at the bookstore is selling a tp750c for $250 with the catch being that he can't unlock it. since it is being sold under the auspices of the bookstore as an as-is sale my guess is that it is safe from a legal standpoint---the question in my mind is whether the price is fair and whether it is feasable to remove or bypass the password. i would expect that this is not heavily advertised if possible (and i didn't see it in the faq's) but if it is unreasonable to remove the password then $250 for a useless brick isn't a good deal. any suggestions on price/password removal? this sounds like a good price for the machine in general, slow though it may be. thanks for any pointers or information! ---K From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 13 19:10:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA138710238; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:10:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06415; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:10:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:08:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06149; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:08:21 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06141; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:08:17 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA09984; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:08:48 -0700 Message-Id: <199611140008.RAA09984@aspen.wwsi.com> To: "Kevin W. Rudd" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: query for info x2: price for tp750c, bypass of rom passwd In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:48:55 PST." <199611132348.PAA03779@umunhum.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:08:48 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The password cannot be removed. It if is unknown, the only possible solution is to return it to IBM to have its motherboard (and, possibly, its harddrive) replaced. ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 13 19:18:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA140620729; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:18:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07260; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:18:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:15:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07048; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:15:49 -0500 Received: from gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (root@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu [129.65.26.111]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06997; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:15:34 -0500 From: Received: from [128.115.186.237] (fukatsu-mac.llnl.gov [128.115.186.237]) by gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (8.6.12/ELEE) with SMTP id QAA06698 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:15:02 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:15:26 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Help, loadlin doesn't work anymore! Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Maybe someone can help me. I used to boot my 755CD into linux using loadlin so I could enable the sound support. A while back I did something (I can'tr remember what) and loadlin doesn't boot correctly. after I type loadlin, the kernel loads OK but the machine hangs during the APM messages. I then have to power off and back on again. I tried rebuilding a new kernel, it didn;t help. I updated the bios, and the computer now spits out a bunch of hex codes continuously during the same apm messages. I'd like to get the sound working again, I kinda miss it. could it be some sort of memory address problem? (having the dos drivers loaded in some place they shouldn't be?) My setup: TP755CD - 75MHz Pentium 40 Megs RAM 1.2G HD - 850M linux -- 350M dos RedHat 3.0.3 kernel 2.0.0 Thanks! -Mike From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 13 19:47:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA144562444; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:47:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09125; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:46:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:44:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08881; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:44:31 -0500 Received: from moistmaster.skypoint.com (root@dial117.skypoint.net [199.86.33.117]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08872; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:44:03 -0500 Received: from moistmaster (bobz@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moistmaster.skypoint.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01335; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:40:12 -0600 Message-Id: <199611140040.SAA01335@moistmaster.skypoint.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: mfukatsu@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Help, loadlin doesn't work anymore! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:15:26 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:40:09 -0600 From: bobz@mirage.skypoint.com Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I don't know how much help I can be, but the same thing happened to me this afternoon on MY 755cd. The only way around it I found was to recompile the kernel without APM support. I hope there's a better answer out there. You've had functioning sound on your 755CD under Linux? Do tell!! > Maybe someone can help me. I used to boot my 755CD into linux using > loadlin so I could enable the sound support. A while back I did something > (I can'tr remember what) and loadlin doesn't boot correctly. > > after I type loadlin, the kernel loads OK but the machine hangs during the > APM messages. I then have to power off and back on again. > > I tried rebuilding a new kernel, it didn;t help. > > I updated the bios, and the computer now spits out a bunch of hex codes > continuously during the same apm messages. > > I'd like to get the sound working again, I kinda miss it. > > could it be some sort of memory address problem? (having the dos drivers > loaded in some place they shouldn't be?) > > > My setup: > > TP755CD - 75MHz Pentium > 40 Megs RAM > 1.2G HD - 850M linux -- 350M dos > RedHat 3.0.3 > kernel 2.0.0 > > > Thanks! > > -Mike > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 13 21:05:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA154447118; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:05:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15451; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:04:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:00:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15127; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:00:56 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15113; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:00:52 -0500 Received: from elijah-8.d.enteract.com (elijah-8.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.55]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA23209 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:36:58 -0800 (PST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 Hibernation File Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:38:58 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32901fab.11367423@smtp.enteract.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:25:46 -0800 (PST), you wrote: "Not to beat a dead horse, but (regarding the original poster's problem = of=20 "huge Hib files in light of his RAM upgrade) there is another alternative= =20 "to totally doing away with the hibernation file. The TP701 Bios allows=20 "you to specify the size of your hib file. You can make it as small as=20 "4MB, even if you are saddled with the burden of 24MB RAM on your TP 701! " "I just thought I'd mention that, even though epbrown and Joerg surely=20 "already know this, just thought I would tell everyone else ...=20 I've heard of this already, but never heard of anyone using it; any idea how it works? Compress all the data or something? epbrown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 13 22:55:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA168503697; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:54:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24187; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:54:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:50:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23900; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:50:54 -0500 Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23891; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:50:47 -0500 Received: from falkor (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA19209; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:50:34 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611140350.VAA19209@Kitten.mcs.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ron Heiby" To: "Kevin W. Rudd" Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:50:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: query for info x2: price for tp750c, bypass of rom passwd Reply-To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Depends on which password. The following is according to my 755CE manual, and is the same (I believe) as the 750C. If it is the "Power On" password, then you are in pretty good shape. You need to take the system, with proof of purchase, to IBM. They will cancel the password for you, but might charge a service charge. If it is the "Hard-Disk" password, then your hard drive is worthless. You will have to buy a new one. If it is the "Supervisor" password, then you are really out of luck. Not only is your hard drive worthless, but so is your system board. With proof of purchase and a pile of money, IBM will replace the system board. (You are probably better off buying a new 365 at that point.) "How do I tell the difference?", I hear you ask. Well, with the 755CE, the "Power On" password has a prompt that looks like a padlock with a wierd symbol to its left that (from the picture in the manual) looks like three rectangles somewhat reminiscent of a 3.5" floppy. The "Hard-Disk" password prompt looks similar, but instead of the strange rectangles symbol, there is a symbol which looks like a traditional flow-chart symbol for files on disk. Clear? "But what about the Supervisor password?", I hear you cry. Well, from my reading of my manual, it looks like you are really screwed. I can't figure out how (if at all) you can tell the difference by booting the system whether you are looking at a "Power On" password or a "Supervisor" password. My uninformed guess is that if the password is just the "Power On", that it can be removed by disconnecting all of the batteries (Actually, probably just the right one.) for a few minutes. In any case, you might find it to be a reasonable deal, if the TFT screen is in good shape. You might be able to find a non-locked 750C with a broken screen. Since last I heard, replacement 750C screens cost more than new 365 systems, a 750C with a dead screen isn't worth much more than one locked with a forgotten password. Putting the two together might be just the thing. Of course, one of your big problems is likely to be getting a real "proof of purchase" which proves that the system was not stolen somewhere along the way. I mean, that's the whole point of those passwords, right? Good luck. Ron. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 13 23:53:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA177497232; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:53:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28646; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:52:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:50:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28293; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:50:28 -0500 Received: from ns1.netone.com (ns1.netone.com [206.83.96.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28280; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:50:24 -0500 Received: from reserve6.ebiz.wwsi.com (boulder217.dialin.netone.com [206.83.104.217]) by ns1.netone.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA15693 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:50:13 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961114064628.0068a4c0@pop.leopard.com> X-Sender: wdunn@pop.leopard.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:46:28 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Will Dunn Subject: Re: query for info x2: price for tp750c, bypass of rom passwd Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:45:45 -0700 >To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us >From: Will Dunn >Subject: Re: query for info x2: price for tp750c, bypass of rom passwd > > >>"How do I tell the difference?", I hear you ask. Well, with the >>755CE, the "Power On" password has a prompt that looks like a padlock >>with a wierd symbol to its left that (from the picture in the manual) >>looks like three rectangles somewhat reminiscent of a 3.5" floppy. >>The "Hard-Disk" password prompt looks similar, but instead of the >>strange rectangles symbol, there is a symbol which looks like a >>traditional flow-chart symbol for files on disk. Clear? >> >>"But what about the Supervisor password?", I hear you cry. Well, from >>my reading of my manual, it looks like you are really screwed. I >>can't figure out how (if at all) you can tell the difference by >>booting the system whether you are looking at a "Power On" password >>or a "Supervisor" password. > >Simple way to tell-- the power on password comes up at power on. The "supervisor" password only comes up if one tries to access the EZ-setup (aka BIOS) or if there is an error which would kick one to the EZ-setup screen. > >--wwd > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 14 05:35:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA210917712; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 05:35:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10357; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 05:34:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 05:16:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05328; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 05:16:56 -0500 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05279; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 05:16:47 -0500 Received: from ibm.net ([166.72.69.135]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA24521; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:37:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:36:59 -0500 () From: Joshua Hosseinof To: Chris Liljenstolpe Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Problems with IBM service In-Reply-To: <3.0b35.32.19961114105004.00749070@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov> Message-Id: Sender: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Chris Liljenstolpe wrote: > So now I am stuck - I have a broken laptop, which IBM refused to deal with > before I left CONUS, and now I can not get it fixed until after I return to > the states - sometime in March of 1997. In the mean time I get to carry > around two machines (the Thinkpad and a 30+ lb Compaq luggable) because the > Thinkpad can not do something as simple as a direct connect serial > connection to another computer. Can't you send the thinkpad on one of the military transports to the US? Turnaround time on easyserv repairs in the US is usually 48 hrs or less and the worst I ever experienced was a week. I think your message must be the most long distance email that we've gotten so far on the thinkpad mailing list. Maybe next we'll get an email from a shuttle astronaut. Josh Hosseinof PS is AFAN McMurdo broadcasting again now that it is summer down there? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 14 06:16:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA215940188; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 06:16:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA17556; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 06:16:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 06:14:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA17306; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 06:14:25 -0500 Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA17298; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 06:14:21 -0500 Received: from golf.uib.no by noralf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:13:57 +0100 Received: from admorg1742.svf.uib.no by golf.uib.no with SMTP id LAA03651 (8.7.6/3.HMK for uib.no); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:13:57 GMT Message-Id: <2.2.16.19961114111457.4a5737f4@golf.uib.no> X-Sender: soatj@golf.uib.no X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:14:57 +0100 To: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Thor Jensen Subject: Re: plug tip for thinkpad ac adapter Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:06 13.11.96 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: >I need a 755-style plug tip for the portable AC adapter, >FRU P/N 85G4952. This is the adapter that hangs from the wall >by a short IEC cord. It is shipped with a tip for the 701 and >a tip for the 755 and you plug the appropriate one in, normally >permanently (you can pry it out if you try hard, but it's a pain). > >Does anyone know where I can get one of these tips? Is there an >IBM part number for it? I called tech support about getting another >one last time, and I had to get a whole new power brick. > >Do any 701 owners out there have a spare 755 tip they want to sell me? >I'll happily pay say $10 for one, or will cut a custom CD-ROM for >you if you can get me the data somehow, or whatever. This is an "old" problem: my dealer used 2 months and only came up with a totally new power unit. He said that IBM had no proper part no for this item and was unable to supply the small adapter. All "spare parts" referred to the old system or the old system was delivered instead. Thor =D8ivind Jensen Dep of Administration and Organization Theory N 5014 Univ of Bergen, Norway phone +47 55 58 21 53 home: +47 55 20 22 48 fax +47 55 58 98 90 mob: +47 946 246 90 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 14 14:41:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA283720474; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:41:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00825; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:40:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:35:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29967; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:34:58 -0500 Received: from unexexch.unex.ucla.edu ([128.97.115.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29944; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:34:31 -0500 Received: by unexexch.unex.ucla.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BBD21F.5DC325B0@unexexch.unex.ucla.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:31:24 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Swartz, Charles" To: ThinkPad Newsgroup Subject: Using 560 for external display Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:32:00 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As I consider the 560, I'm troubled by yet another claim that it will not display on external 640x480 LCD projectors. At first, I read a report that the problem was similar to the Terra, which * will* do so but changes the notebook's display to a smaller window. Now in the latest PC Magazine, a letter claims the 560 simply won't output to a 640x480 source -- even if one was willing to accept a smaller window or even no display on the TB screen. Does anyone have direct, authentic experience with this situation? I'd love to know before I wait in line for the 133 MHZ version..... Many thanks Charles S. Swartz UCLA Extension From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 14 14:54:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA285891255; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:54:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02489; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:54:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:51:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02120; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:51:49 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02114; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:51:42 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA16044; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:52:13 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961114125058.0068c7c8@aspen.wwsi.com> X-Sender: ssh@aspen.wwsi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:50:58 -0700 To: "Swartz, Charles" , ThinkPad Newsgroup From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: Using 560 for external display Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:32 AM 11/14/96 -0800, Swartz, Charles wrote: >Now in the latest PC Magazine, a letter claims the 560 simply won't >output to a 640x480 source -- even if one was willing to accept a >smaller window or even no display on the TB screen. > >Does anyone have direct, authentic experience with this situation? I'd >love to know before I wait in line for the 133 MHZ version..... I do not have direct experience with this. *However*, I have never seen an IBM that won't do this, so I'd be *really* surprised if the 560 didn't. It *does* mean that you have to set the local display to 640x480, which some folks don't do... FWIW. ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Systems, Network, Internet, and Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 14 15:35:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA293083696; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:34:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07119; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:34:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:31:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06722; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:31:24 -0500 Received: from m2.boston.juno.com (m2.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.199]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06713; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:31:20 -0500 Received: (from itsmaddog@juno.com) by m2.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id PAA26641; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:30:04 EST To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Upgrading a IBM 301C Message-Id: <19961114.142253.22543.0.itsmaddog@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5-8 From: itsmaddog@juno.com (James E. Ackermann) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:30:04 EST Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks for all the input regarding my original posting relative upgrading the CPU and memory on a 701C. I need the answer to one more question relative updating a 701 C. I am adding a cd rom drive and need input as to whether to purchase a drive with a pc card interface or a parallel interface. In addition any information on specific drives would be appreciated. Jim Ackermann itsmaddog@juno.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 14 16:00:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA296355231; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:00:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09865; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:59:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:56:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09178; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:56:25 -0500 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09167; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:56:07 -0500 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA15537 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 20:55:49 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA848012148; Thu, 14 Nov 96 14:52:50 CST Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 14:52:50 CST Encoding: 32 Text Message-Id: <9610148480.AA848012148@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: Using 560 for external display Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu To get our P-75 755cd to work with our LCD panels we have to press Fn/F7 key to change resolution (I think) in order to get it to work on the fly without going into video setup. Could not get simultaneous video though. (The Fn/F2 key combination changes between LocalDisplay/ExternalMonitor/Both). ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Using 560 for external display Author: Steve Hultquist at Gateway Date: 11/14/96 2:05 PM At 11:32 AM 11/14/96 -0800, Swartz, Charles wrote: >Now in the latest PC Magazine, a letter claims the 560 simply won't >output to a 640x480 source -- even if one was willing to accept a >smaller window or even no display on the TB screen. > >Does anyone have direct, authentic experience with this situation? I'd >love to know before I wait in line for the 133 MHZ version..... I do not have direct experience with this. *However*, I have never seen an IBM that won't do this, so I'd be *really* surprised if the 560 didn't. It *does* mean that you have to set the local display to 640x480, which some folks don't do... FWIW. ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Systems, Network, Internet, and Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 14 16:01:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA296405239; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:00:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09847; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:59:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:57:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09362; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:57:05 -0500 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk (mail-e.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09328; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:57:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199611142057.PAA09328@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-12.ucl.ac.uk by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 20:53:47 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Problems with IBM service (Dead Serial Port in McMurdo) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 20:53:53 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:09:20 +1300 >From: Chris Liljenstolpe >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Problems with IBM service >Message-Id: <3.0b35.32.19961114105004.00749070@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov> > >2) About a week before I left for Antarctica (where I am now) I discovered >that my serial port was not working. I could not use it for a direct >connection to another machine, and I could not use it to talk to my digital >camera. It did pass an EasyStart diagnostic (without a cable attached). An alternative solution given you were pressed for time might have been to buy a PCMCIA card with one or more extra serial ports. Depending on which model thinkpad you have this might actually be an advantage (e.g. my TP750CS appears to have an 8250 [slow speed serial port]) because the PCMCIA card could emulate a 16550 serial port (capable of much higher speed). From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 14 16:12:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA297735942; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:12:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12226; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:12:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:09:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11865; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:09:47 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11828; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:09:42 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.7.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA00953; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:09:31 +1100 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.7.6/8.6.12) id IAA14599; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:09:30 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:09:28 +1100 (EST) To: Chris Liljenstolpe Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Problems with IBM service In-Reply-To: <3.0b35.32.19961114105004.00749070@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu if ibm had any public relations sense they would send you a comparable machine, which worked, with a second hdd adapter (so you could insert yours), ask you to put your machine in the box to send to them on the return flight, fix yours, then do a swap in christchurch on your way back. assuming you're not snowed in at the moment. of course, their lawyers would look at such a proposition, and gasp: the precendent! if we do this, next year we will have several hundred requests to do the same thing, from antarctica. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Chris Liljenstolpe wrote: > Greetings, > > I am looking (and I was just hoping that someone here would know who to > vent on at IBM) for resolution for a problem with my thinkpad. Here's a > brief synopsis of my problem: > > 1) Some months ago, my Thinkpad went in for easyserv repair (the power > connector broke). Before then my serial port on the back of the thinkpad > worked. > > 2) About a week before I left for Antarctica (where I am now) I discovered > that my serial port was not working. I could not use it for a direct > connection to another machine, and I could not use it to talk to my digital > camera. It did pass an EasyStart diagnostic (without a cable attached). > > 3) I called IBM service and was told by a pretty snotty young woman that > what I was doing was not supported (i.e. using the serial port to talk to > anything but a modem) and since EasyStart passed, it had to be a program or > cable problem. She would not listen to the dignositcs I did that seemed to > point at the machine, etc - and closed my call for me :( > > 4) I get down here to Antarctica, and use different target machines for the > direct connection and it works with a compaq luggable, but not my Thinkpad > (Procomm+ on both, same cable, etc.). Also, another machine is able to > download my camera, but my Thinkpad is not (again, same software, same cable). > > 5) I call service again. Good tech this time has me put a loopback cable > on the serial port (the first tech never mentioned using a loopback - so I > figured the EasyStart diagnostics did not deal with a cable loopback), and > guess what - it passes without the loopback, but not with it. He then says > "just bring it into your local factory rep, or we can EasyService it." At > that point I blew up - IBM has a pretty good service network, but the > nearest facility is Christchurch, New Zealand (about an 8 hour military air > flight from here) and FedEx definately does not deliver to Antarctica. > > So now I am stuck - I have a broken laptop, which IBM refused to deal with > before I left CONUS, and now I can not get it fixed until after I return to > the states - sometime in March of 1997. In the mean time I get to carry > around two machines (the Thinkpad and a 30+ lb Compaq luggable) because the > Thinkpad can not do something as simple as a direct connect serial > connection to another computer. > > Needless to say - I am not really thrilled with IBM and am seriously > considering not buying IBM the next time around. I spent good money for > support when I bought the IBM, and IBM has not delivered. I would like to > "discuss" this with someone at IBM who is not a worker drone. Any > suggestions on contacts within their service or PC Co. organization? > > -=Chris > > > > -- > Chris Liljenstolpe, ASA - McMurdo Network Engineer > Work 165/NOC, Tel X-2253, Pager #502 Res. 209/321, Tel X-2673 > mailto:cds@mcmurdo.gov mailto:cds@mcmsun5 > http://www.io.com/~cds/ > PGP Key 2047/37DDC209 E0 0F 16 97 33 16 F0 DD 41 B6 BC AF 20 31 AC FC > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 14 16:26:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA299846774; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:26:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13579; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:25:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:23:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13299; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:23:46 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu ([144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13290; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:23:35 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id PAA14820; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:23:11 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611142123.PAA14820@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:23:01 -0600 To: Chris Liljenstolpe , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Problems with IBM service Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I use a parallel port connecting cable to go from computer to computer (at least under Win95). It is generally known as the Laplink cable, and if you don't have one, you can probably build it if you can find the right pin to pin connections on the web. It would take two male DB25's and a 25 wire cable to build. This is much faster than serial computer to computer connections, so it is generally the recommended method unless you absolutely must have simultaneous access to your parallel port for printing. Your application may not allow use of the parallel port. If that's the case, ignore the above. Good luck... Mike Redmond ------------------ At 11:09 AM 11/14/96 +1300, Chris Liljenstolpe wrote: >Greetings, > > I am looking (and I was just hoping that someone here would know who to >vent on at IBM) for resolution for a problem with my thinkpad. Here's a >brief synopsis of my problem: > >1) Some months ago, my Thinkpad went in for easyserv repair (the power >connector broke). Before then my serial port on the back of the thinkpad >worked. > >2) About a week before I left for Antarctica (where I am now) I discovered >that my serial port was not working. I could not use it for a direct >connection to another machine, and I could not use it to talk to my digital >camera. It did pass an EasyStart diagnostic (without a cable attached). > >3) I called IBM service and was told by a pretty snotty young woman that >what I was doing was not supported (i.e. using the serial port to talk to >anything but a modem) and since EasyStart passed, it had to be a program or >cable problem. She would not listen to the dignositcs I did that seemed to >point at the machine, etc - and closed my call for me :( > >4) I get down here to Antarctica, and use different target machines for the >direct connection and it works with a compaq luggable, but not my Thinkpad >(Procomm+ on both, same cable, etc.). Also, another machine is able to >download my camera, but my Thinkpad is not (again, same software, same cable). > >5) I call service again. Good tech this time has me put a loopback cable >on the serial port (the first tech never mentioned using a loopback - so I >figured the EasyStart diagnostics did not deal with a cable loopback), and >guess what - it passes without the loopback, but not with it. He then says >"just bring it into your local factory rep, or we can EasyService it." At >that point I blew up - IBM has a pretty good service network, but the >nearest facility is Christchurch, New Zealand (about an 8 hour military air >flight from here) and FedEx definately does not deliver to Antarctica. > >So now I am stuck - I have a broken laptop, which IBM refused to deal with >before I left CONUS, and now I can not get it fixed until after I return to >the states - sometime in March of 1997. In the mean time I get to carry >around two machines (the Thinkpad and a 30+ lb Compaq luggable) because the >Thinkpad can not do something as simple as a direct connect serial >connection to another computer. > >Needless to say - I am not really thrilled with IBM and am seriously >considering not buying IBM the next time around. I spent good money for >support when I bought the IBM, and IBM has not delivered. I would like to >"discuss" this with someone at IBM who is not a worker drone. Any >suggestions on contacts within their service or PC Co. organization? > > -=Chris > > > >-- >Chris Liljenstolpe, ASA - McMurdo Network Engineer >Work 165/NOC, Tel X-2253, Pager #502 Res. 209/321, Tel X-2673 >mailto:cds@mcmurdo.gov mailto:cds@mcmsun5 >http://www.io.com/~cds/ >PGP Key 2047/37DDC209 E0 0F 16 97 33 16 F0 DD 41 B6 BC AF 20 31 AC FC > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 14 17:12:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA007729540; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:12:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18596; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:12:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:07:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18233; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:07:50 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (root@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18195; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:07:14 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id RAA26554; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:08:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:08:30 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: "James E. Ackermann" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Upgrading a IBM 301C In-Reply-To: <19961114.142253.22543.0.itsmaddog@juno.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thursday, 14th November 1996, James E. Ackermann wrote: > I need the answer to one more question relative updating a 701 C. I am > adding a cd rom drive and need input as to whether to purchase a drive > with a pc card interface or a parallel interface. In addition any > information on specific drives would be appreciated. I have one of each, and given my light CDROM usage, either one works about as well as the other. The advantage of the PC-Card CDROM is the greater portability, and the advantage of the parallel CDROM is the lesser cost. For the parallel, you might want to consider one of the RoadRunner series from Disctec (I got the 4X model, and there's an 8X model available); there's support for it on the 701C's restoration CDROM (available for about $40 + shipping from IBM) and diskette (get the latest image from the IBM FTP site). The RoadRunner series also has OS/2 3.0 support. (I don't know about OS/2 4.0, though - try checking Disctec's web site.) PC Warehouse is one of a number of retailers that sell the Disctec line. I chose the 2X Sony PRD-150 PC-Card CDROM drive mainly because it was available for a good price at the time; to my knowledge, there's no OS/2 support for the Sony, but it's apparently on the supported list of the FreeBSD PCMCIA ("PAO") project. I don't know what sort of Linux support is available for either of them. I'd guess that unless you have some app that demands high CDROM performance, you can't go wrong either way. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 14 21:04:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA042643485; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:04:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05880; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:04:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 20:59:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05420; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 20:59:04 -0500 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05413; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 20:58:59 -0500 Received: from hpbs2240.boi.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA266683074; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:57:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199611150157.AA266683074@hp.com> Received: by hpbs2240.boi.hp.com (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA042643009; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:56:49 -0700 From: Dean Cashen Subject: Intro, and HELP! with Virtual Screen To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:56:49 MST Cc: cashen@primenet.com X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 112.2] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello: This isn't really my first post, but it's my first in quite a while, so let me introduce myself. I managed to snag a 760CD when they were just coming out and were "hot." Of course, they're all but obsolete now, less than a year later. Sigh. It was my love for large screens and fast processors (when the P90 was considered "fast"), along with the need for solid support from a solid company that drove me to buy the 760CD. And now, it's that last matter, the "solid support" that I'm having a problem with. I have NEVER gotten the "Virtual screen" feature to work on my TP760CD. I know other's have, or at least, I've known people to SAY they have, but I just cannot get it to function. Another member of this list wrote here with the same problem a while back, and I didn't see any responses. I'm hoping I have better luck ;-). The problem, specifically, is that when I access the "Display" feature of the "ThinkPad Features" utility, all the Virtual screen buttons are greyed away. To further compound the problem, the buttons to enable the internal modem and midi port are greyed away as well. These later two problems are new, and they came about after I spent a day installing EVERY new utility/driver/update I could pull off of IBM's web- site in an attempt to solve the "Virtual screen" problem. So, I'd dealt with IBM's tech support in the past for this problem, without resolution (they were dumb- founded, in essence). And today I tried again. This time, however, the tech, after putting me on hold and researching the problem, came back and told me that Win95 is the problem, and the ThinkPad Features program doesn't work well under '95, and he further told me that the TP760CD doesn't "support" virtual screens on Win95. He claims it's supported under DOS and "Windows" (his term for Win3.1) only. He didn't mention OS/2, by the way. When I pressed him to tell me why, he went on about how "Device Manager takes control", and that I have to do all of my configurations first through that -- I need to Enable/Disable the modem by clicking the checkbox in Device Mgr's "Device Usage" box under the "General" tab, for example. This, to my mind, is nonsense; Device Manager doesn't understand the TP's BIOS to perform the functions that IBM's "PS2" or "ThinkPad Features" utilities are intended to. On that note, I'm able to open a DOS window and use the PS2 command to enable/disable the modem and midi-port When pressed to explain why that works and the "features" program doesn't (they do the same things, after all, one's just GUI-based), he fell back on his "Device Manager" mantra, and never really explained it. And he wasn't able to explain why it's only recently that "features" has greyed out the modem & midi buttons. He asked my BIOS rev, util rev, etc., and seemed satisfied, and started talking about "Device Manager" again. Sigh. So, rather than have this wind up as a "IBM has bad service" message, (sorry, I'm just frustrated and dismayed at the responses I got), I'm hoping someone here can help. Specifically, the problems I'm having are: 1) Virtual screen buttons are greyed-out under the ThinkPad features program. I can't enable this feature. 2) For both the internal modem (Mwave) and midi-port, ThinkPad features greys out the enable/disable buttons. I have to use the DOS "PS2" command to enable them. This problem has only recently surfaced, and is probably related to my updating all the ThinkPad software to the "latest." 3) And, along the line of #1, I'm unable to get my external video to run in 1024x768, it runs in 640x480 and 800x600 (256 colors). The video drivers I've tried are: a) IBM ThinkPad(Cyber9320)VL b) IBM ThinkPad(Cyber9385/82)VL c) Trident Super VGA I know this is supported, and the tech said that THIS, at least, should work. I'm running Win95, and in battling this problem I've installed Support Pack 1 and other patches from MS for Win95 (none of them were ThinkPad-related, but I like to keep things current, and I was hoping, nonetheless, that it might help solve the problem). Any thoughts? And, if not, please let me know if, at least, anyone ELSE has the Virtual screen capability working on their ThinkPad 760CD under Win95. Thanks, Dean Cashen cashen@primenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 14 21:34:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046295274; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:34:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08092; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:34:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:32:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07989; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:32:54 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07938; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:32:30 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA17585; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:19:48 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961114191831.00696738@aspen.wwsi.com> X-Sender: ssh@aspen.wwsi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:18:31 -0700 To: Dean Cashen , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: Intro, and HELP! with Virtual Screen Cc: cashen@primenet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 06:56 PM 11/14/96 MST, Dean Cashen wrote: >The problem, specifically, is that when I access the >"Display" feature of the "ThinkPad Features" utility, >all the Virtual screen buttons are greyed away. To >further compound the problem, the buttons to enable >the internal modem and midi port are greyed away as >well. These later two problems are new, and they >came about after I spent a day installing EVERY new >utility/driver/update I could pull off of IBM's web- >site in an attempt to solve the "Virtual screen" >problem. Let me say, first, that the tech isn't completely lost in space. The p'n'p support in Win95 clashes with the Utilities, and the device manager does really weird things to the IRQs, etc. I suspect you have an IRQ conflict that's causing the Utils to think they can't talk to the modem, etc. Did you check the device manager to see if it had errored-out any devices? (I know you probably know, but in case you don't, it's Control Panel | System.) You may also need to check the Display drivers under Win95, and make changes to the display type settings to get the other resolutions to work. I, unfortunately, do not have the problem you have, and since my machine won't be obsolete for at least a few weeks, I'm happy for now. ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Systems, Network, Internet, and Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 14 21:44:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046945863; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:44:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09097; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:44:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:42:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08878; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:42:39 -0500 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08872; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:42:37 -0500 Received: from lee.market1.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #10) id m0vNQ2x-001E0mC; Tue, 12 Nov 96 14:07 MST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 14:07 MST X-Sender: lee@rmii.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) Subject: 755CDV Replacement Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu We have a 755CDV (the one with the removable back to the display so you can use it with an overhead projector) that's starting to show it's age. Before we pump money into more memory, hard drive, and getting the processor upgraded, does anyone know of any other machine with the built in projection capability? If it's out there (Thinkpad or other), I have missed it and would appreciate a pointer to it... Thanks... Lee Stewart From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 15 09:13:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA117037215; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:13:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16432; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:12:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:49:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13291; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:49:23 -0500 Received: from mail.physics.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.244.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12695; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:43:16 -0500 Received: from pc138.physics.ox.ac.uk by mail.physics.ox.ac.uk with SMTP (Oxford Physics Sendmail for ) id AA10273; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:41:13 GMT Message-Id: <199611151341.AA10273@mail.physics.ox.ac.uk> From: "Geoff Hogan" To: "Dean Cashen" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Cc: "cashen@primenet.com" Date: Fri, 15 Nov 96 12:43:06 +0100 Reply-To: "Geoff Hogan" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Dr. Geoffrey Hogan's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Intro, and HELP! with Virtual Screen Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:56:49 MST, Dean Cashen wrote: >Win95 is the problem, and the ThinkPad Features program >doesn't work well under '95, and he further told me >that the TP760CD doesn't "support" virtual screens >on Win95. He claims it's supported under DOS and >"Windows" (his term for Win3.1) only. He didn't mention >OS/2, by the way. When I pressed him to tell me why, Sorry, nothing really to help your plight, but I was told when I looked into the same thing on my TP755cx (VGA version) that although it worked under Windows 3.11, it wouldn't under OS/2 (both pre-installed). I'm afraid that I didn't pusue it far enough to establish the reasons. Geoff Hogan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr G P Hogan Laser Group, Clarendon Lab., Tel: +44 1865 272205 Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PU Fax: +44 1865 272400 UK Email: g.hogan@physics.ox.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 15 12:31:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA145939083; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:31:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11744; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:30:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:26:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11183; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:26:20 -0500 Received: from gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (root@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu [129.65.26.111]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11120; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:26:08 -0500 From: Received: from [128.115.186.237] (fukatsu-mac.llnl.gov [128.115.186.237]) by gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (8.6.12/ELEE) with SMTP id JAA11166 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:26:00 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:26:13 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: pcmcia problems... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a TP755CD, and I just bought a Simple Technologies Communicator PCMCIA modem. (for use with linux). I wanted to test it out in win3.1 just to be sure the thing works, since I haven't tried to set up the PCMCIA services in linux yet. I load all the PCMCIA drivers at startup, and enter win3.1. I make sure there is power to the PCMCIA port, disable the mwave modem and pop the card in. When I open the PC card director, it seems to know there is a card in the slot, but there is a big red X over the icon. It can't seem to recognize the card at all. When I tell it to register the card, it says that it failed to retrieve the vendor string (or something like that). Now I think the card should automaticly be recognized since I'm using the 2.1 release of card services. I turned the computer off and on and entered ezsetup and tested the PCMCIA diagnostic and everything checks out ok. Do you think the card is bad? I've never used the PCMCIA slots on this machine so I can't TOTALLY rule out the possibility of a hardware problem, but the same thing happens for either slot. Does anyone have any advice? -Mike From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 15 12:49:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA147950183; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:49:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13890; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:49:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:46:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13400; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:46:22 -0500 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13390; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:46:14 -0500 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA00743 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:45:59 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA848087157; Fri, 15 Nov 96 11:43:50 CST Date: Fri, 15 Nov 96 11:43:50 CST Encoding: 11 Text Message-Id: <9610158480.AA848087157@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: NT 4.0 on a TP760CD P120..need more ram? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Have got a 760CD with 32mb of ram running NT 4.0. Boots are slow and it does a lot of disk swapping even after it's up, so I assume I've got a lot of things getting loaded that don't need to be. I tried disabling MWAVE under ControlPanel/Devices (to free up some RAM) but then it wouldn't boot and I got a blue screen dump, so had to revert to the original configuration. Anybody got a list of things to do to optimize a ThinkPad under NT (and how to do it if possible)? By the way, it is a FAT partition. Swap space is set to between 45 and 85mb. Display is set to 32k(m?) colors. Any and all sugestions are welcome. Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 15 12:50:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA148050217; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:50:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13970; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:49:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:47:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13607; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:47:49 -0500 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13599; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:47:46 -0500 Received: from algonquin.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.17.149]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <16243(5)>; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:41:56 PST Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961115174033.00a8a73c@kanga.parc.xerox.com> X-Sender: mdixon@kanga.parc.xerox.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:40:33 PST To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mike Dixon Subject: 760 experiences, advice? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu i'm considering buying a 760e, primarily because of the XGA display. i vaguely remember some complaints on this list from people who bought 760s and found them unreliable, but i've forgotten the details. if you're using one, could you please let me know if it works as well as it ought to? (i've been using a 755cd for a couple of years, and been happy with it.) i'd probably use it with a port replicator (or the new docking station?), external keyboard & pcmcia ethernet card. .mike. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 15 13:36:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA154192981; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:36:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18281; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:35:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:31:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17863; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:31:28 -0500 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17839; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:31:02 -0500 Received: from CLAUDIA ([129.126.232.4]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA16833 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:29:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199611151829.AA16833@kodakr.kodak.com> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:27:00 -0500 From: "King, Randall" Subject: RE: NT 4.0 on a TP760CD P120..need more To: emr , thinkpad X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu SOrry I can' tbe a bit more helpful on this, but I have a 760CD (90MHz) with 16 meg of memory, and it seems to work just fine. I have the MWave stuff enabled, and I even use a Megahertz Ethernet+Modem card with it. It is a little slow when it boots, but once it is up, it flies (ok, walks). I used a blank hard drive, and installed from the I386 directory that I copied off of the ROM. I left the FAT intact, and my pagefile is around 43 meg. Perhaps try lowering you swap file size? RK ---------- >From: emr >To: thinkpad >Subject: NT 4.0 on a TP760CD P120..need more ram? >Date: Friday, November 15, 1996 11:43AM > > Have got a 760CD with 32mb of ram running NT 4.0. Boots are slow and > it does a lot of disk swapping even after it's up, so I assume I've > got a lot of things getting loaded that don't need to be. I tried > disabling MWAVE under ControlPanel/Devices (to free up some RAM) but > then it wouldn't boot and I got a blue screen dump, so had to revert > to the original configuration. Anybody got a list of things to do to > optimize a ThinkPad under NT (and how to do it if possible)? > > By the way, it is a FAT partition. Swap space is set to between 45 and > 85mb. Display is set to 32k(m?) colors. Any and all sugestions are > welcome. Thanks. > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 15 15:40:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA177020409; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:40:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29489; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:36:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:29:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28884; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:29:42 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28873; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:29:32 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-j-26.usc.edu [128.125.224.170]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id MAA13323; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:28:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961115202847.01127034@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:28:47 -0800 To: From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: NT 4.0 on a TP760CD P120..need more ram? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:43 AM 11/15/96 CST, emr@teamquest.com wrote: > Have got a 760CD with 32mb of ram running NT 4.0. Boots are slow and > it does a lot of disk swapping even after it's up, so I assume I've > got a lot of things getting loaded that don't need to be. I tried > disabling MWAVE under ControlPanel/Devices (to free up some RAM) but > then it wouldn't boot and I got a blue screen dump, so had to revert > to the original configuration. Anybody got a list of things to do to > optimize a ThinkPad under NT (and how to do it if possible)? I wish I had better insights, but offhand--from what I hear, for NT anyway, 32 MB is barely enough. Kinda like running Win 95 in 8 MB (slow as snot in an Alaskan winter). I noticed when I moved from 16 MB in my desktop to 48 MB of RAM under Win 95, bootups were much quicker, but even more dramatic was a speedy shutdown! Happens almost instantaneously. ------- Randy Whittle http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle rwhittle@usa.net Wireless: rwhittle@dts.net (Emergencies only--and keep it short!) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 15 16:08:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA182412099; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:08:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01956; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:07:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:05:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01585; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:05:01 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01571; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:04:56 -0500 Received: from able-20.d.enteract.com (able-20.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.35]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11378 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:04:40 -0800 (PST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Windows 3.1 and RAM upgrades Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:06:49 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <328dda18.33532814@smtp.enteract.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The discussion on NT brings to mind another subject. I upgraded to 24MB on my 701 after switching to Windows 95, and while I like the OS for it's memory handling and pc card management, I haven't noticed a significant improvement in speed. I was wondering if anyone had used both 16-bit and 32-bit Windows, and was 16-bit really fast with 24MB of RAM or more? = Most of my software has 16-bit alternatives and I wouldn't mind switching back if it meant performance improvement (and more hard drive space). epbrown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 15 16:56:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA191534984; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:56:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06181; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:56:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:53:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05857; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:53:36 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05807; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:53:00 -0500 Received: from isaiah-22.d.enteract.com (isaiah-22.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.101]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11826 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:52:50 -0800 (PST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Upgrading a 701C IBM Thinkpad Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:54:58 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <328ce1a2.35463563@smtp.enteract.com> References: <199611120258.SAA10799@babel.enteract.com> In-Reply-To: <199611120258.SAA10799@babel.enteract.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:02:22 +0000, you wrote: "> "1. I am going to order a 16MB SO DIMM (3.3v) Chip, but would a "> "32MB SO-DIMM chip work in this machine? "> It will if one exists; I was told by CDW today that there is no 32MB "> chip for the 701, despite my hearing the contrary from a vendor who = offered "> me one for $675 (I was hoping CDW's price was lower so I could argue = the "> guy down). " "Check out L.A. Trade (usually has ads in PC and PC-Computing) who=20 "lists 32MB for $536 for the IBM 701. Their phone number is=20 "1-800-433-3726. I tried these guys today, running a price check. They said outright that the 32MB chip is "very expensive" and quoted me $789! Gene, or = anyone else, know what issue was being referred to that had the $536 price = listed? Also, has anyone heard a better price than this? I'm going back and = forth with a guy who says he'll beat any price, provided I can cite it = somewhere like an ad or web page. I'm thinking I might get it for $450, then sell = my 16MB chip for $100, so $350 total is not a bad deal to go to 40MB. Btw, I saw an upgrade company that'll bump the processor to a 586-133Mhz for $395 and another that advertises the 586-100 for $348, so I'm trying = to decide which to do: processor upgrade or RAM (both would be a bit much, = I'd go ahead and get the Toshiba 620CT). How much more bang would going to 40MB give me? epbrown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 15 17:22:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA194546522; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:22:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09236; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:21:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:19:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08765; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:19:21 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08737; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:19:15 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA05524; Fri, 15 Nov 96 12:19:03 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA01568; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:19:20 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199611152219.MAA01568@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Upgrading a 701C IBM Thinkpad To: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 96 12:19:14 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <328ce1a2.35463563@smtp.enteract.com>; from "epbrown" at Nov 15, 96 9:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The first good reason not to do an aftermarket upgrade on a 701 CPU is that it will void the warrantee. Personally, for all its problems the 3-year EZ-serve is still one of the most valuable features on the machine (mine will soon go in for the second time). The second reason is that it likely won't help performance that much. My 701 consistently scores lower on whole-system application-based benchmarks than my desktop, despite the fact that (a) my desktop is only a Cyrix 486DX2-66, (b) my 701 has 24 megs ram to my desktop's 8, and (c) on disk benchmarks they are almost indistinguishable. The explanation (I think) is that the desktop has CPU cache, the laptop does not; also, the desktop's bus speed is 33mhz, the 701 is at 25mhz. Changing the chip might help the former problem a bit (I think the 586 has a small built-in cache), but not the latter. In any event, I don't think CPU speed is a big bottleneck. BTW, has anyone tried monkeying around with memory refresh rates on the 701? I have a program which will increase them (and thereby compensate a bit for the slow bus), but am reluctant to try it yet since my machine is already acting a bit flaky (hence the imminent trip back to IBM). - David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 15 18:10:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA203409444; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:10:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14837; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:10:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:06:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14377; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:06:19 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14363; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:06:08 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26857; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:06:38 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961115160516.00693b54@aspen.wwsi.com> X-Sender: ssh@aspen.wwsi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:05:16 -0700 To: Mike Dixon , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: 760 experiences, advice? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 09:40 AM 11/15/96 PST, Mike Dixon wrote: >i'm considering buying a 760e, primarily because of the XGA display. i >vaguely remember some complaints on this list from people who bought 760s >and found them unreliable, but i've forgotten the details. if you're using >one, could you please let me know if it works as well as it ought to? (i've >been using a 755cd for a couple of years, and been happy with it.) I have the new 760E with the XGA, and I *really* like it. The keyboard is not as much to my liking as the one on my CX, but the screen is *awesome*, and the overall package is quite nice (10 minutes from box to in use). >i'd probably use it with a port replicator (or the new docking station?), >external keyboard & pcmcia ethernet card. I use mine with a Dock II, and it works fine. The new docking stations options look pretty nice, but I haven't got one, so can't comment more than that. ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Systems, Network, Internet, and Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 15 19:14:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA213243262; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:14:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19634; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:14:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:10:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19461; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:10:48 -0500 Received: from mail.pop-frankfurt.com (mail.ipf.de [194.152.32.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19437; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:10:43 -0500 Received: from ip203.pop-frankfurt.com (ip203.pop-frankfurt.com [194.152.33.203]) by mail.pop-frankfurt.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA08612; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:09:41 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611160009.BAA08612@mail.pop-frankfurt.com> From: "Joerg Klemenz" To: "James E. Ackermann" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 16 Nov 96 01:10:22 -0100 Reply-To: "Joerg Klemenz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Joerg Klemenz's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: CD-ROM for 701 (was: Re: Upgrading a IBM 301C) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:30:04 EST, James E. Ackermann wrote: >relative updating a 701 C. I am adding a cd rom drive and need input as >to whether to purchase a drive with a pc card interface or a parallel >interface. In addition any information on specific drives would be >appreciated. Have a look at http://www.maxcom.nl/cardport/cardportcd-e.html This device is sort of expensive (I think US$ 300-400) but very cool. You can plug it in and out at any time - no need for reboot. Works great with OS/2 if you care. Also works as a Diskman. I have heard that Sony sells a "CD-ROM Discman" with scsi interface for US$ 150,- Parallel devices are slow and the inefficient LPT port needs very much CPU time. Be careful with "8-Speed" portable CD-ROM drives. They need too much power. 2x spin is perfectly OK for notebooks... Have fun joerg klemenz (joergk@ipf.de) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 15 19:30:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA215304250; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:30:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20916; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:30:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:29:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20687; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:29:00 -0500 Received: from mail.pop-frankfurt.com (mail.ipf.de [194.152.32.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20681; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:28:57 -0500 Received: from ip217.pop-frankfurt.com (ip217.pop-frankfurt.com [194.152.33.217]) by mail.pop-frankfurt.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA08836; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:27:57 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611160027.BAA08836@mail.pop-frankfurt.com> From: "Joerg Klemenz" To: "Paul Rubin" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 16 Nov 96 01:28:40 -0100 Reply-To: "Joerg Klemenz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Joerg Klemenz's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: plug tip for thinkpad ac adapter Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:14:57 +0100, Thor Jensen wrote: >At 12:06 13.11.96 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: >>I need a 755-style plug tip for the portable AC adapter, >>FRU P/N 85G4952. This is the adapter that hangs from the wall >>by a short IEC cord. It is shipped with a tip for the 701 and >>a tip for the 755 and you plug the appropriate one in, normally >>permanently (you can pry it out if you try hard, but it's a pain). >> Last week I purchased a power-plug for my 701. I mean the device that comes out left of the TP and goes to the AC adapter (is that what you need?) It is an industry standart plug that I purchased in a Hi-Fi store. joerg klemenz (joergk@ipf.de) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 15 23:23:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA241468197; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 23:23:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08224; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 23:22:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 23:17:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07730; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 23:17:45 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07722; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 23:17:42 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id XAA09391; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 23:20:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 23:20:54 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: Joerg Klemenz Cc: "James E. Ackermann" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: CD-ROM for 701 (was: Re: Upgrading a IBM 301C) In-Reply-To: <199611160009.BAA08612@mail.pop-frankfurt.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Am Samstag, 16. November 1996, hat Joerg Klemenz geschrieben: > I have heard that Sony sells a "CD-ROM Discman" with scsi interface for > US$ 150,- Yes, that's the (2X) PRD-150. A 4X version (PRD-250) is also available for about twice the price. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 16 14:23:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA032132200; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:23:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06865; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:22:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:11:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05980; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:11:43 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05972; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:11:41 -0500 Received: from blue (blue.sa.enteract.com [206.54.253.122]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA17936; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:11:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611161911.LAA17936@babel.enteract.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Gene J" To: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:15:08 +0000 Subject: Re: Upgrading a 701C IBM Thinkpad Reply-To: blue@enteract.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) wrote: >> Check out L.A. Trade (usually has ads in PC and PC-Computing) who >> lists 32MB for $536 for the IBM 701. Their phone number is >> 1-800-433-3726. > > I tried these guys today, running a price check. They said outright > that the 32MB chip is "very expensive" and quoted me $789! Gene, or anyone > else, know what issue was being referred to that had the $536 price listed? The issue is November 1996 (PC Computing magazine, page 310). That's a big difference between what's listed ($536) and the $789 that they quoted you, beyond what's tolerable even with the disclaimer "prices subject to change without notice." > Btw, I saw an upgrade company that'll bump the processor to a 586-133Mhz > for $395 and another that advertises the 586-100 for $348, so I'm trying to > decide which to do: processor upgrade or RAM (both would be a bit much, I'd > go ahead and get the Toshiba 620CT). How much more bang would going to > 40MB give me? I would question whether an upgrade for the 701 would give you that much more performance, considering the price and that you'd be voiding a 3-year warranty. ThinkPads do break down and the EasyServe warranty is good compensation for that, I wouldn't want to blow it. The 701 has some kind of lousy motherboard/system layout that doesn't even take full advantage of the 486DX. From what I've seen in performance comparisons, the 701 is one of the worst performers in the 486DX75 class; there's a Toshiba that performs over 50% better with the same CPU. While you may see a performance increase by upgrading to a 586-133, it probably won't be as fast as what is being touted; the performance increase at best would be incremental relative to the 701. You may want to check out the Cyrix WWW page for more info on their 586 chip upgrades (at least I think its Cyrix, not AMD, that's making the 586 chip). Also, I don't think that the Cyrix or AMD 586 (the one that's pin compatible with the 486) has a FPU, which would translate into less performance than having a real Pentium. For some apps the FPU makes a big difference. I know that I considered the 586 upgrade, but then I figure that I'd be better off using that money towards a desktop system (like a Pentium Pro 200n). Considering that the total cost of investment into a 701 (or any 486 laptop) to upgrade it, up to $650 for a 32MB SO-DIMM, $100 to $150 for a PCMCIA SCSI card, $350 for an external 8x SCSI CD-ROM (the Phillips model I like), and about $500 for a 1.3GB hard drive, one could easily spend $1500 on additional goodies for the notebook. A Dell Pentium Pro 200 system with 32MB, 2GB hd, 8x CD-Rom, and 17" monitor is about $2700, for example, and those prices should drop even more around or after Christmas, and certainly more once the Pentium MMX units are released. Another factor for me is the ISDN thing; I want to upgrade to ISDN and use an external ISDN unit (rather than PCMCIA), but because of the 115kbps limit on the 701 serial port I will never get full ISDN performance (approaching 200kbps with compression). At least if I had a desktop I could buy a high-speed serial card for $50, havn't seen a PCMCIA high speed serial card yet. I'm now leaning toward buying a desktop, and with Win95 features like Briefcase and Direct Connect cabling, using my 701 as an extension of my desktop when traveling. So I'm resisting the urge to pour money into things for my 701. On the other hand, once the price of a 32MB SO-DIMM drops to around $150, I probably will upgrade the ram. I bought my 16MB SO-DIMM for $500, and within months that dropped to $150, so now I'm trying to exercise patience. One upgrade I will be buying for my laptop is a PCMCIA joystick adapter, one with a dongle that shouldn't interfere with the 701's keyboard. I'll be picking it up from CDW (don't cringe) today, and will be reporting the results as soon as I install it; I have my fingers crossed. Another thing that I'm looking at is the Olympus SYS.230 portable drive. 230MB (uncompressed) of erasable optical storage with disks running at $10/each in units of 5. There's a version of the unit that has both parallel and SCSI connections for added versitility, but the drawback is the $375 price tag. It just came out so I'm waiting for the price to drop (competition with SyQuest), as well as some assurance of media availability (that the Olympus 230MB will be readily available at $10/each in the future). Let me add that I do love my 701 though, its a great portable unit that meets all of my real needs (outside of playing Doom), and I'll probably keep it until it breaks beyond cost-effective repair. :) Just my 2 cents... -- Gene http://www.enteract.com/~blue IP #: 206.54.253.122 IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 16 16:18:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044479108; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:18:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15826; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:18:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:16:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15648; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:16:08 -0500 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15637; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:15:55 -0500 Received: from tom-franklin (ppp-206-170-117-168.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.117.168]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA26431 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:15:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <328E2EF3.58CD@pacbell.net> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:15:31 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomfrank@pacbell.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Two DIMMs in TP760E problem? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I came across this message and wondered if anyone else was seeing this problem: ============================================== Subject: Re: TP 760ED 80MB mem pblm Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:55:03 GMT From: rkarp@itis.com (Robert Karp) Reply-To: rkarp@mailbag.com -or- rkarp@itis.com Organization: Intranet Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops References: 1 I wrote about this awhile back. There is a problem with the DIMM adapter when both sockets are used (for 16Mb machines, this means the 48Mb and 80Mb configurations). A replacement DIMM adapter is available from IBM. I received mine about 2 weeks ago and have not had a single lock-up since (and my machine would freeze virtually every single time I booted up). Call 1-800-772-2227 and explain your problem and say that you want the replacement adapter. If you are not familiar with the process, be certain you obtain both a case number and a Warranty Claim number from the technician. The WC number is particularly critical as it is the only way to track the progress of your replacement part with the Denver, CO parts fulfillment center. I ordered my adapter on November 1st and it was delivered the next morning. Be patient and cordial with the technician ... you never know what kind you will get. At first, the technician I was dealing with expected me to pay for the replacement! By the way ... for my machine, I found I was able to operate with both slots filled if I restarted the machine after booting. This means a cold restart, not holding down the shift key while restarting (assuming you're using Win-95). (Ruckman Mark)16 Nov 96 03:40:48 GMT writes: :> :>I have a TP 760ED with 48MB of RAM, and just got another 32MB chip. At :>first I thought this was great, but machine now acts real strange with the :>extra RAM installed. It mostly hangs during boot up, at different point. :>I have tested the whole sys and RAM using the IBM Boot up test. :> :>Has any one ever run into this problem? If I take the RAM out the machine :>is great, if I swap the RAM (old out New in) it works just fine. It :>appears to be a problem with the machine using 80+ MB of RAM. :> :>I am using Win 95 and have the latest BIOS on my machine... Can anyone :>Help???? :>Thanks :>Mark From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 17 00:08:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA087247321; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:08:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14624; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:08:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:04:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14234; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:04:00 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14228; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:03:58 -0500 Received: from blue (blue.sa.enteract.com [206.54.253.122]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA20213 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:03:49 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611170503.XAA20213@babel.enteract.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Gene J" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:07:28 +0000 Subject: I got a joystick working on my 701... Reply-To: blue@enteract.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm so excited and I just can't hide it, I have a joystick on my 701 and I think I like it. But seriously, I've found a PC Card (PCMCIA type 1) game port adapter that features a dongle connector, so it will not interfere with the TP701's folding keyboard. It also has drivers for DOS/Win3.1 and Windows95 on a 3.5" diskette with the unit, so you won't have to hunt around WWW pages or BBSs for drivers (the situation I was in for a certain serial-to-gameport adapter that had no drivers for Win95). The adapter is called the "Game Traveler" and its made by EXP Computers . The adapter also comes with a Champ "PowerPad 100" 4-button gamepad which is ok but I know I'll be replacing it with a better joystick. I got my "Game Traveler" from CDW in Chicago (1-800-401-4239) for $66.28 plus tax; the CDW item number is "CDW 70889. It took CDW about 15 days to get it for me since they were out of stock when I ordered it. It installed easily, Win95 recognized it and the driver load from the diskette worked with no problems. I tried it with two games, Quake (DOS game under Win95) and Dig-Dug (a Win95 game) and had no problems with either, not expansive testing but an indicator that the adapter does work across DOS and Win95. Anyhow I'm thrilled that I now have an alternative to playing games with the keyboard and mouse, and may now get some extra life out of my keyboard. :) -- Gene http://www.enteract.com/~blue IP #: 206.54.253.122 IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 17 03:01:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA103817701; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 03:01:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA23182; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 03:01:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 17 Nov 1996 02:57:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22812; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 02:57:35 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22759; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 02:57:25 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-4 #9830) id <01IBXIC38CG0AR3N35@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:16:24 MST Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 22:58:21 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 and RAM upgrades In-Reply-To: "Message dated Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:06:49 +0000 (GMT)" <328dda18.33532814@smtp.enteract.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IBXJ59S9POAR3N35@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > The discussion on NT brings to mind another subject. I upgraded to 24MB > on my 701 after switching to Windows 95, and while I like the OS for it's > memory handling and pc card management, I haven't noticed a significant > improvement in speed. I was wondering if anyone had used both 16-bit and > 32-bit Windows, and was 16-bit really fast with 24MB of RAM or more? Most > of my software has 16-bit alternatives and I wouldn't mind switching back > if it meant performance improvement (and more hard drive space). Win 3.11 with win32s is reasonably fast with 24MB in my 755CE - a big difference in performance over just the 8MB that came with it. I don't know if I'd call this kind of move an overall improvement though. I just had to reboot mine to get a particular net port recognized as properly configured again so I could read this mail for instance... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 17 11:31:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA146868315; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:31:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28771; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:31:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:26:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28282; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:26:21 -0500 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28267; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:26:13 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx05-29.teleport.com [206.163.123.171]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA00899; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 08:25:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 08:25:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611171625.IAA00899@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Christian Carey From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: CD-ROM for 701 (was: Re: Upgrading a IBM 301C) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Where is this $150 deal? Also, has anyone actually seen or tried the 32 meg chip? Presuming it exists it would be nice if someone posted its effectiveness indeed. Bryan At 11:20 PM 11/15/96 -0500, you wrote: >Am Samstag, 16. November 1996, hat Joerg Klemenz geschrieben: > >> I have heard that Sony sells a "CD-ROM Discman" with scsi interface for >> US$ 150,- > >Yes, that's the (2X) PRD-150. A 4X version (PRD-250) is also available >for about twice the price. >-- >Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 17 12:14:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA150050841; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:14:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01672; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:13:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:12:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01514; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:12:05 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (root@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01508; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:12:02 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id MAA05734; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:02:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:02:18 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: Bryan Daum Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CD-ROM for 701 (was: Re: Upgrading a IBM [7]01C) In-Reply-To: <199611171625.IAA00899@kim.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sunday, 17th November 1996, Bryan Daum wrote: > Where is this [Sony PRD-150 for US] $150 deal? I'd gotten mine a few months ago at a Micro Center store in Vienna, Virginia, but it seemed to have been a close-out at the time. I haven't been tracking the prices since then, so I don't know if it's generally available now at that price. Perhaps Joerg will mention where he'd heard about it? Or maybe one of the price-tracking web sites would reveal the deal's current whereabouts? > Also, has anyone actually seen or tried the 32 meg chip? Presuming it > exists it would be nice if someone posted its effectiveness indeed. I've neither seen nor tried it, and judging from the prices that have been suggested on the list, I shan't be doing so even if it does exist and function in the 701C. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 17 13:54:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA160606886; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:54:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06964; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:54:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:51:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06755; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:51:38 -0500 Received: from umunhum.Stanford.EDU (Umunhum.Stanford.EDU [171.64.74.80]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06745; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:51:35 -0500 Received: (from kevin@localhost) by umunhum.Stanford.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA14312 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:51:29 -0800 From: "Kevin W. Rudd" Message-Id: <199611171851.KAA14312@umunhum.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: bypassing tp750c password To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:51:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: from "owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" at Nov 17, 96 12:16:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu thanks for the quick responses---it turned out that the seller either changed his mind or found someone else before returning my call (sigh). but that still leaves an opening some time for one of the newer faster better displayed thinkpads sometime in the future! ---K From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 17 16:57:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA180567810; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:56:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19872; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:56:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:43:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18503; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:43:19 -0500 Received: from mtigwc01.worldnet.att.net (ns.worldnet.att.net [204.127.129.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18491; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:43:16 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME ([207.147.101.248]) by mtigwc01.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA23283 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:42:43 +0000 X-Sender: m.millegan@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Millegan Subject: Invalid VxD dynamic link call Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:42:43 +0000 Message-Id: <19961117214241.AAA23283@LOCALNAME> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am using AT&T Worlnet to access the Internet from an IBM TP 701C under Win 3.11. When I try to connect, the dialer is called then I get the following message: Invalid VxD dynamic link call to device number 000E, service 0002. Your Windows configuration is invalid. Run the Windows Setup program again to correct this problem. To contine running Windows press Y or Enter. To quit the current program press N. If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. Do you want to continue? Press Y for Yes or N for No: Y If I hit Y, the dialer comes up, and everything seems fine, but irritating little things come up like the fonts in Program Manager change, graphics are corrupted, GPF's in Netscape Navigator, Eudora, Free Agent, etc. I won't get this message again until I restart windows. I have run Windows setup again, but the same thing happens. I went to the MS Knowledge Base and found lots of references to Invaild VxD errors, but not to device 000E. They all suggested checking System.ini for device driver problems. When I looked at sysini, it seemed that all of the references to com drivers had been commented out. Cout the ATT Worldnet installation program have done this? Any ideas out there? Like I said, everything seems to work fine and the GPF's do not occur with any kind of predictability, but the warning about the instability of Windows leads me to think that they may be related. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 17 17:13:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA182698831; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:13:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21092; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:12:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:11:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20969; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:10:57 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20922; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:10:32 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA10981; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:05:17 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199611172205.RAA10981@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: CD-ROM for 701 (was: Re: Upgrading a IBM [7]01C) In-Reply-To: from Christian Carey at "Nov 17, 96 12:02:18 pm" To: ccarey@CapAccess.org (Christian Carey) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:05:17 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > Where is this [Sony PRD-150 for US] $150 deal? I've seen this unit on sale in the mis.forsale newsgroups for as little as $75. I have one (2X, non-SCSI) which came with my TP750C, and I've been extremely pleasd with it. Works fine under DOS/Windows/Win95, and I may test it under Linux soon (which does recognize the PCMCIA interface card). The nice thing is that it runs off of its own batteries (double AA) and also doubles as a bare bones discman. I recall USA flex advertising this unit for around $150 a few months ago, but they no longer carry it. Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 18 02:24:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA268891841; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 02:24:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00443; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 02:23:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 02:20:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00140; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 02:20:30 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00124; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 02:20:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id CAA12131; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 02:21:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 02:21:46 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Reply-To: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Active matrix problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A couple weeks ago I told this list that one of the pixels on my TP701's active matrix TFT was acting up. It went bad for a day, then started working again, then went bad for a week. It's worked fine ever since, but now *another* pixel has started acting up. This one is also blue and semi-stuck on. It flickers from faint blue to bright blue. Every once in a while it works fine. Does anyone know if this is normal for a pixel going bad? Or could there be an electrical problem elsewhere? -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 18 06:42:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA291637328; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:42:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24764; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:41:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:37:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24448; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:37:29 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24441; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:37:22 -0500 Received: from luzern_ppp59.tic.ch (luzern_ppp59.tic.ch [193.193.148.61]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA18677 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:38:14 +0100 (MET) Received: by luzern_ppp59.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BBD544.1C6FC500@luzern_ppp59.tic.ch>; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:31:59 +-100 Message-Id: <01BBD544.1C6FC500@luzern_ppp59.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'Thinkpad Mailing List'" Subject: Thinkpad 701 - floppy capacity Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:24:41 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I read that most Thinkpads come with a floppy drive capable of supporting 2.88Mbyte floppies. Does the (external) floppy supplied with the 701 also support this density? cheers, Andrew From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 18 06:42:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA291677339; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:42:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24757; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:41:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:36:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24404; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:36:26 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24396; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:36:19 -0500 Received: from luzern_ppp59.tic.ch (luzern_ppp59.tic.ch [193.193.148.61]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA18670 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:38:04 +0100 (MET) Received: by luzern_ppp59.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BBD544.152BB920@luzern_ppp59.tic.ch>; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:31:47 +-100 Message-Id: <01BBD544.152BB920@luzern_ppp59.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'Thinkpad Mailing List'" Subject: Running Linux from external Jaz via PCMCIA Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:24:02 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I'm installing Linux (Slackware, 2.0 kernel) on my Thinkpad 701CS. What I want to do is to have all of Linux except for a tiny boot floppy or partition on my external SCSI device (IOMega Jaz), which is connected via a New Media Bus Toaster PCMCIA card. What I've succeed in doing so far is to setup a small partition on the Thinkpad's hard drive with a basic core of Linux including PCMCIA support. This happily recognises the Bus Toaster and allows me to access the Jaz drive - but by this time my root partition is /dev/hda3 and I can't change it to be /dev/sda1. How can I get round this? Presumably I need to create a LILO boot image with PCMCIA built in that sets up PCMCIA support before trying to mount the root (SCSI) directory. I realise that I could keep my core Linux on the hard disk and setup various partitions - /usr, /etc, /lib etc on the Jaz disk, but this is messy. I would much prefer to have everything for Linux on the Jaz disk (the whole filesystem in one partition) with only the required boot (LILO?) files on the Thinkpad or floppy. All suggestions/guidelines would be most welcome - although I'm experienced in Unix, I'm new to Linux (and LILO) - please be detailed in any Linux/LILO specific instructions. cheers, Andrew. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 18 09:09:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA005666195; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:09:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04414; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:09:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:05:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04071; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:05:22 -0500 Received: from goldilocks.LCS.MIT.EDU (goldilocks.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04044; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:05:15 -0500 Received: from ursa-minor (ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu) by goldilocks.LCS.MIT.EDU (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA15106; Mon, 18 Nov 96 09:05:02 EST Sender: ilh@goldilocks.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <32905F3D.7AA91227@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:06:05 -0500 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.25 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "John H. Kim" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Active matrix problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I don't know if it is normal, but I've seen this behavior on my 760C. In fact, I have a few doing this now. --Lee From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 18 13:04:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA043300239; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:03:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26159; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:54:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:47:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAB25401; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:47:03 -0500 Received: from silly.tamu.edu (SILLY.TAMU.EDU [165.91.120.122]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25308; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:45:35 -0500 Received: by silly.tamu.edu (950215.SGI.8.6.10/930416.SGI.AUTO) id LAA18455; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:43:10 -0600 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:43:10 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Bednar Subject: Re: Running Linux from external Jaz via PCMCIA To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > support. This happily recognises the Bus Toaster and allows me to > access the Jaz drive - but by this time my root partition is /dev/hda3 > and I can't change it to be /dev/sda1. How can I get round this? > Presumably I need to create a LILO boot image with PCMCIA > built in that sets up PCMCIA support before trying to mount the > root (SCSI) directory. The thing to use is the `initrd' feature. This lets you load an `initial' root image into RAM to get things started, and once you've got PCMCIA going, it will mount the real root partition. I set this up on a Zip, and it works. Since you can compress the disk image, it's actually possible to get kernel, loader (LILO or LOADLIN), and image all on a floppy, and boot competely without the internal HD. With RedHat, the info doc is /usr/src/linux/Documentation/initrd.txt; I dunno about SW. There's an example at ftp://elserv.ffm.fgan.de/pub/linux/loadlin-1.6/initrd-example.tgz too. The setup is only slightly weird; it expects a program called `linuxrc' to be in the root directory of the init image. You can change the root partition on the fly through /proc/sys/kernel/real-root-dev, too. Nifty. ---- Chris Bednar - Budding Quantum Optician, Quantum Fundamentalist But really, baby, I'm not like the other theorists! Dept. of Physics, TAMU, Coll. St., TX 77843-4242 (409)845-7018 (409)845-2590 FAX Houston Advanced Research Center (HARC) (713)363-7920 http://terminator.tamu.edu/~bednar/ ghoti == fish - W. H. Auden? G. B. Shaw? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 18 13:12:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044160731; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:12:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26157; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:54:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:51:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25771; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:50:55 -0500 Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25726; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:50:45 -0500 Received: from rocky.summa4.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: rocky.summa4.com [206.67.6.1]) id QQbqjv05905; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from sherman.summa4.com ([192.9.201.6]) by rocky.summa4.com via smtpd (for relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) with SMTP; 18 Nov 1996 17:48:18 UT Received: from hal (root@hal.summa4.com [192.9.202.7]) by Summa4.COM (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA18759; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:48:18 -0500 (EST) Sender: root@Summa4.COM Message-Id: <3290A142.78403916@summa4.com> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:47:46 -0500 From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i486) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Richards Cc: "'Thinkpad Mailing List'" Subject: Re: Running Linux from external Jaz via PCMCIA References: <01BBD544.152BB920@luzern_ppp59.tic.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu According to the documentation that comes with the Adaptec PCMCIA SCSI card, the PCMCIA spec does NOT support bootable devices, period. In other words, regardless of what you've got hanging off your PCMCIA device, it ain't gonna boot. No, I don't know the specifics; perhaps checking on Adaptec's web site (is there a PCMCIA newsgroup?) might help. Ken Andrew Richards wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm installing Linux (Slackware, 2.0 kernel) on my Thinkpad 701CS. > What I want to do is to have all of Linux except for a tiny boot > floppy or partition on my external SCSI device (IOMega Jaz), which > is connected via a New Media Bus Toaster PCMCIA card. > > What I've succeed in doing so far is to setup a small partition on the > Thinkpad's hard drive with a basic core of Linux including PCMCIA > support. This happily recognises the Bus Toaster and allows me to > access the Jaz drive - but by this time my root partition is /dev/hda3 > and I can't change it to be /dev/sda1. How can I get round this? > Presumably I need to create a LILO boot image with PCMCIA > built in that sets up PCMCIA support before trying to mount the > root (SCSI) directory. > > I realise that I could keep my core Linux on the hard disk and > setup various partitions - /usr, /etc, /lib etc on the Jaz disk, but > this is messy. I would much prefer to have everything for Linux > on the Jaz disk (the whole filesystem in one partition) with only > the required boot (LILO?) files on the Thinkpad or floppy. > > All suggestions/guidelines would be most welcome - although > I'm experienced in Unix, I'm new to Linux (and LILO) - please > be detailed in any Linux/LILO specific instructions. > > cheers, > > Andrew. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 18 14:50:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA065936603; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:50:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04900; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:38:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:34:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04040; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:34:26 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03998; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:34:19 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA04135; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:28:47 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199611181928.OAA04135@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: Running Linux from external Jaz via PCMCIA In-Reply-To: <01BBD544.152BB920@luzern_ppp59.tic.ch> from Andrew Richards at "Nov 18, 96 11:24:02 am" To: andrew@tic.ch (Andrew Richards) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:28:47 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > What I've succeed in doing so far is to setup a small partition on the > Thinkpad's hard drive with a basic core of Linux including PCMCIA > support. This happily recognises the Bus Toaster and allows me to > access the Jaz drive - but by this time my root partition is /dev/hda3 > and I can't change it to be /dev/sda1. How can I get round this? It's been a while since I fiddled with odd LILO configs. You should get the LILO docs to get detailed info. But, you will probably need to modify the "append" line in /etc/lilo.conf. Your linux bootable partition section should point to your mini partition on /dev/hda3, so that LILO will find a kernel on the HD, but you need to instruct your kernel to override the default root directory (/dev/hda3) with your new root directory (/dev/sda3). I believe the append line should read either "root=/dev/sda3" or "mount=/dev/sda3". Note that in order for this to work, you need to load LILO into the MBR of your HD. There are two other ways to load linux for your config: 1 boot off of floppy; or, 2 use loadlin, a command line DOS/Win95 linux loader (which requires you to boot into one of those OS's first. Neither of these two methods need LILO. > Presumably I need to create a LILO boot image with PCMCIA > built in that sets up PCMCIA support before trying to mount the > root (SCSI) directory. LILO just tells the computer where the linux kernel is. And since LILO is loaded at boot time, it can only access devices that are available at that time thru the BIOS (i.e. no PCMCIA). So, yes. > I realise that I could keep my core Linux on the hard disk and > setup various partitions - /usr, /etc, /lib etc on the Jaz disk, but > this is messy. I would much prefer to have everything for Linux > on the Jaz disk (the whole filesystem in one partition) with only > the required boot (LILO?) files on the Thinkpad or floppy. All you need on your HD or your floppy is a kernel that recognizes your PCMCIA devices. No partition splitting is necessary. > All suggestions/guidelines would be most welcome - although > I'm experienced in Unix, I'm new to Linux (and LILO) - please > be detailed in any Linux/LILO specific instructions. You really should read the LILO documentation. Good luck, Dave. > > cheers, > > Andrew. > -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 18 15:25:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA071408692; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:24:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08860; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:14:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:10:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08364; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:10:27 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08344; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:10:20 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.7.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA06834; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 07:10:05 +1100 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.8.3/8.6.12) id HAA18081; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 07:10:05 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 07:10:04 +1100 (EST) To: Andrew Richards Cc: "'Thinkpad Mailing List'" Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701 - floppy capacity In-Reply-To: <01BBD544.1C6FC500@luzern_ppp59.tic.ch> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Andrew Richards wrote: > Hi, > > I read that most Thinkpads come with a floppy drive capable of > supporting 2.88Mbyte floppies. Does the (external) floppy > supplied with the 701 also support this density? > why would you possibly want this? i have a 2.88 in my 755ce and have never used it. you get a bit more data on a floppy, but where do you find another machine that can read it, if necessary? even with the newer thinkpad's, i believe this now comes only as an option. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 18 15:28:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA071838891; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:28:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08951; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:14:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:13:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08746; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:13:15 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08705; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:12:47 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA04939; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:05:12 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199611182005.PAA04939@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: Running Linux from external Jaz via PCMCIA In-Reply-To: <3290A142.78403916@summa4.com> from Ken D'Ambrosio at "Nov 18, 96 12:47:46 pm" To: kend@Summa4.COM (Ken D'Ambrosio) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:05:12 -0500 (EST) Cc: andrew@tic.ch, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > According to the documentation that comes with the Adaptec > PCMCIA SCSI card, the PCMCIA spec does NOT support bootable > devices, period. In other words, regardless of what you've > got hanging off your PCMCIA device, it ain't gonna boot. No, > I don't know the specifics; perhaps checking on Adaptec's web > site (is there a PCMCIA newsgroup?) might help. He wouldn't be booting from PCMCIA. He would boot from HD or floppy, then mount the PCMCIA SCSI device after the drivers are loaded. Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 18 17:27:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA091106062; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:27:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21521; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:18:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:07:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20428; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:07:13 -0500 Received: from dns.dmw.it (root@[194.243.52.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20420; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:07:05 -0500 Received: from dmw..dmw.it (cust5.dmw.it [194.243.52.132]) by dns.dmw.it (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA04908 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:43:07 +0100 Message-Id: <3290DE75.7875@dmw.it> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:08:53 +0100 From: Fabrizio Brezzo Organization: Yamaha Music Schools of Sanremo - Taggia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscrive Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 18 17:39:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA092786797; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:39:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22920; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:30:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:28:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22585; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:28:24 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22567; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:28:12 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA11481; Mon, 18 Nov 96 12:27:54 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA04670; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:28:11 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199611182228.MAA04670@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Invalid VxD dynamic link call] To: m.millegan@worldnet.att.net (Michael Millegan) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 12:28:09 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <19961117214241.AAA23283@LOCALNAME>; from "Michael Millegan" at Nov 17, 96 9:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I am using AT&T Worlnet to access the Internet from an IBM TP 701C under Win > 3.11. When I try to connect, the dialer is called then I get the following > message: > > Invalid VxD dynamic link call to device > number 000E, service 0002. Your Windows > configuration is invalid. Try this. Find out where AT&T put a [ShivaPPP] entry in an init file (probably in your system.ini or win.ini file), and put the command [ShivaPPP] ClaimPort=0 there. (I think your default will be ClaimPort=1.) Believe it or not, this should solve your problem. For an explanation, see http://www.total.net/english/noframe/support/trouble.html - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 18 18:27:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA099569658; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:27:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27341; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:19:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:16:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27008; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:16:03 -0500 Received: from atlas.corp.mei.com (atlas.mis.mei.com [151.186.47.172]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26973; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:15:40 -0500 Received: from nickdo.mis.mei.com (nickdo.mis.mei.com [151.186.47.91]) by atlas.corp.mei.com (NTMail 3.02.10) with ESMTP id ga003542 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:16:09 -0600 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Nick Rushizky" Organization: Marquette Medical Systems To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, emr@teamquest.com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:16:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: NT 4.0 on a TP760CD P120..need more ram? Reply-To: Nick@atlas.mis.mei.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-Id: <23160970300101@corp.mei.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, I got a 760E with 40 M RAM running it fine and dandy.. runs even faster now than my desktop 90mhz (the desktop wins under 95, but the TP smokes on NT4!!) Somebody had posted the right way to get NT loaded on here, and then it was just a matter of reloading all the IBM stuff.. Your problem might be that (and this does sound like something that Redmond would do) NT 4 works better if you use NTFS, rather than FAT. And, did you do the install from a clean drive? I tried to get it to work nice from 95, until I heard about how screwed up it could get, resulting from the Registry differences. I ended up just throwing it on a clean drive. > Have got a 760CD with 32mb of ram running NT 4.0. Boots are slow and > it does a lot of disk swapping even after it's up, so I assume I've > got a lot of things getting loaded that don't need to be. I tried > disabling MWAVE under ControlPanel/Devices (to free up some RAM) but > then it wouldn't boot and I got a blue screen dump, so had to revert > to the original configuration. Anybody got a list of things to do to > optimize a ThinkPad under NT (and how to do it if possible)? > > By the way, it is a FAT partition. Swap space is set to between 45 and > 85mb. Display is set to 32k(m?) colors. Any and all sugestions are > welcome. Thanks. > > Nick Rushizky ---> nick@atlas.mis.mei.com Marquette Medical Systems PC Support Help Desk All opinions are my fault only. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 19 09:27:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA212253644; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:27:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03302; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:23:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:16:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02631; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:16:21 -0500 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02624; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:16:15 -0500 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA04049; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:16:03 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA848420156; Tue, 19 Nov 96 08:07:04 CST Date: Tue, 19 Nov 96 08:07:04 CST Encoding: 45 Text Message-Id: <9610198484.AA848420156@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Nick@atlas.mis.mei.com Subject: Re[2]: NT 4.0 on a TP760CD P120..need more ram? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks for your reply(s). This was a clean NT 4 install. I have not gone through and removed any unused services yet. I am not totally sure which ones I need or do not need yet. Would having pagefile.sys on a separate partition help much? And is there that big of a difference in NTFS vs. FAT performance? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: NT 4.0 on a TP760CD P120..need more ram? Author: Nick@atlas.mis.mei.com at Gateway Date: 11/18/96 5:25 PM Well, I got a 760E with 40 M RAM running it fine and dandy.. runs even faster now than my desktop 90mhz (the desktop wins under 95, but the TP smokes on NT4!!) Somebody had posted the right way to get NT loaded on here, and then it was just a matter of reloading all the IBM stuff.. Your problem might be that (and this does sound like something that Redmond would do) NT 4 works better if you use NTFS, rather than FAT. And, did you do the install from a clean drive? I tried to get it to work nice from 95, until I heard about how screwed up it could get, resulting from the Registry differences. I ended up just throwing it on a clean drive. > Have got a 760CD with 32mb of ram running NT 4.0. Boots are slow and > it does a lot of disk swapping even after it's up, so I assume I've > got a lot of things getting loaded that don't need to be. I tried > disabling MWAVE under ControlPanel/Devices (to free up some RAM) but > then it wouldn't boot and I got a blue screen dump, so had to revert > to the original configuration. Anybody got a list of things to do to > optimize a ThinkPad under NT (and how to do it if possible)? > > By the way, it is a FAT partition. Swap space is set to between 45 and > 85mb. Display is set to 32k(m?) colors. Any and all sugestions are > welcome. Thanks. > > Nick Rushizky ---> nick@atlas.mis.mei.com Marquette Medical Systems PC Support Help Desk All opinions are my fault only. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 19 10:17:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA218156651; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:17:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08165; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:12:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:10:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07823; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:10:29 -0500 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com ([150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07792; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:10:16 -0500 Received: from CLAUDIA ([129.126.232.4]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA04116 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:08:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199611191508.AA04116@kodakr.kodak.com> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:05:00 -0500 From: "King, Randall" Subject: RE: Re[2]: NT 4.0 on a TP760CD P120..nee To: emr , Nick , thinkpad X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu No, it's not a problem with FAT vs. NTFS. I am using FAT on my 760CD. I actually dual boot into Windows 3.1 (don't ask). My install wasn't on a clean HD. I had Win95 and Win3.1 in a dual boot configuration. I removed Win95 (booted with a floppy, SYS'ed the drive, manually deleted Win 95), and then from a standard Windows 3.1 on top of IBM PCDOS 5.02 (again, please don't ask!), I ran the install for NT4.0. Everything loaded smooth as glass. I did have some problems with the Ethernet card (a Megahertz card), but that was after the install was complete. Do you have networking support on the laptop? Perhaps try removing some of the elements you don't need (ie Peer web services). My system only has 16M of RAM, and boot takes about 30 seconds. I have networking support through an ethernet card. Also, are you using Server or Workstation? Workstation doesn't load as many drivers, and should load quicker, that is what I am using. Also, I am using version 4.00.1381 (Properties on My Computer). Is you drive Doublespaced or Stacker'ed (word?). I don't even know if you can do this with NT, but I would assume it causes problems. I do have the enhanced video running (from the CD), and the new MWave from IBM's site. I don't think the problem lies there. That's the whole story. I don't know what else I can tell you. Except for the Ethernet card, everything went OK. RK ---------- >From: emr >To: thinkpad; Nick >Subject: Re[2]: NT 4.0 on a TP760CD P120..need more ram? >Date: Tuesday, November 19, 1996 8:07AM > > Thanks for your reply(s). This was a clean NT 4 install. I have not > gone through and removed any unused services yet. I am not totally > sure which ones I need or do not need yet. Would having pagefile.sys > on a separate partition help much? And is there that big of a > difference in NTFS vs. FAT performance? > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: Re: NT 4.0 on a TP760CD P120..need more ram? >Author: Nick@atlas.mis.mei.com at Gateway >Date: 11/18/96 5:25 PM > > >Well, I got a 760E with 40 M RAM running it fine and dandy.. runs >even faster now than my desktop 90mhz (the desktop wins under 95, but >the TP smokes on NT4!!) > >Somebody had posted the right way to get NT loaded on here, and then >it was just a matter of reloading all the IBM stuff.. Your problem >might be that (and this does sound like something that Redmond would >do) NT 4 works better if you use NTFS, rather than FAT. And, did you >do the install from a clean drive? I tried to get it to work nice >from 95, until I heard about how screwed up it could get, resulting >from the Registry differences. I ended up just throwing it on a clean >drive. > > > >> Have got a 760CD with 32mb of ram running NT 4.0. Boots are slow and >> it does a lot of disk swapping even after it's up, so I assume I've >> got a lot of things getting loaded that don't need to be. I tried >> disabling MWAVE under ControlPanel/Devices (to free up some RAM) but >> then it wouldn't boot and I got a blue screen dump, so had to revert >> to the original configuration. Anybody got a list of things to do to >> optimize a ThinkPad under NT (and how to do it if possible)? >> >> By the way, it is a FAT partition. Swap space is set to between 45 and >> 85mb. Display is set to 32k(m?) colors. Any and all sugestions are >> welcome. Thanks. >> >> >Nick Rushizky ---> nick@atlas.mis.mei.com >Marquette Medical Systems >PC Support Help Desk >All opinions are my fault only. > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 19 10:58:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA223969087; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:58:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11704; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:53:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:50:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11416; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:50:57 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11396; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:50:50 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA05508 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:51:01 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961119084729.006a01a8@aspen.wwsi.com> X-Sender: ssh@aspen.wwsi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:50:00 -0700 To: thinkpad From: Steve Hultquist Subject: NT 4.0 migration Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu With all this discussion (and especially the comment about how much faster NT 4.0 was than 95), I'm seriously considering a migration for my 760E. I visited the IBM support site yesterday and noticed that all the NT 4.0 drivers are now out for the 760E. There are a few things that I'd like to know, however: 1) Can I migrate from 95? I've always installed NT 4.0 fresh, but I'd really like to keep some of the programs that came with the machine, specifically FaxWorks. Any thoughts on this? 2) Does APM work? Without it, I expect my battery life to be about an hour! 3) Anyone verified that all the resolutions are available from the new video support that's on the IBM site? Thanks for any thoughts! ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Systems, Network, Internet, and Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 19 13:49:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA252639378; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:49:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28736; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:43:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:39:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28307; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:39:26 -0500 Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28296; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:39:22 -0500 Received: (from whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA07844; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:39:06 -0600 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:39:05 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Pen Controller specs needed Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Since IBM is never going to write a pen driver for my ThinkPad 750P for Windows 95 nor Windows NT, I've decided to write one myself. (Perhaps the knowledge learned will help someone else write a Linux or FreeBSD driver as well.) Where can I get information on the interface logic? I imagine I'll need things like the part number and manufacturer. Once I have those, I can get spec. sheets with register maps and such. (I do know that I can change the address and IRQ of the controller even under Win95, but no driver I have will use it.) I plan to make the device appear as another mouse for now, so the pen functionality (handwriting, gestures and such) will not be present. Thanks much in advance, Chris Schumann From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 19 14:28:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA259001684; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:28:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02390; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:20:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:17:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02045; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:17:01 -0500 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02035; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:16:48 -0500 Received: from weimeraner.execpc.com (weimeraner.execpc.com [169.207.6.116]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with SMTP id NAA27841; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:16:30 -0600 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: Steve Hultquist Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: NT 4.0 migration Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:18:02 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <32990723.14973159@mailgate.execpc.com> References: <3.0.32.19961119084729.006a01a8@aspen.wwsi.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961119084729.006a01a8@aspen.wwsi.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/16.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:50:00 -0700, you wrote: >With all this discussion (and especially the comment about how much = faster >NT 4.0 was than 95), I'm seriously considering a migration for my 760E. = I >visited the IBM support site yesterday and noticed that all the NT 4.0 >drivers are now out for the 760E. There are a few things that I'd like = to >know, however: > >1) Can I migrate from 95? > Disclaimer: I've never actively worked on Win95 or WinNT. Claimer: I read a lot (too many trade mags) It was quite embarrasing earlier this year for Microsoft when they had to admit that because of the registry differences between NT 4.0 and Win95, there is no good way to upgrade from Win95 to NT 4.0. Yes, you *can* upgrade, but everthing has to be re-installed! A lot of people who had not upgraded to Win95 were saying, "Boy, are *we* glad we didn't upgrade" after getting the news. This is *supposed* to be fixed in NT 5.0 which will probably be out completely in 1998. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay's. From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Nov 19 15:56:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA271216983; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:56:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23937; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:49:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:43:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23516; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:43:34 -0500 Received: from dmog10.bell.ca (dmog10.bell.ca [198.235.69.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23509; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:43:26 -0500 Received: from dcoc41.qc.bell.ca ([142.119.11.11]) by dmog10.bell.ca with ESMTP id MAA08698; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:42:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from dcocps.qc.bell.ca (dcocps.QC.Bell.CA [198.235.99.39]) by dcoc41.qc.bell.ca with SMTP id MAA14505; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:42:42 -0500 Received: from cmxc5q (cmxc5q.QC.Bell.CA) by dcocps.qc.bell.ca (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19136; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:42:41 -0500 Message-Id: <9611191742.AA19136@dcocps.qc.bell.ca> From: "Eric Trepanier" To: "thinkpad" , "Steve Hultquist" Subject: Re: NT 4.0 migration Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:44:41 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ---------- > De : Steve Hultquist > A : thinkpad > Objet : NT 4.0 migration > Date=A0: 19 novembre, 1996 10:50 >=20 > With all this discussion (and especially the comment about how much faster > NT 4.0 was than 95), I'm seriously considering a migration for my 760E.= =20 I > visited the IBM support site yesterday and noticed that all the NT 4.0 > drivers are now out for the 760E. There are a few things that I'd like to > know, however: >=20 > 1) Can I migrate from 95? >=20 > I've always installed NT 4.0 fresh, but I'd really like to keep some of the > programs that came with the machine, specifically FaxWorks. Any though= ts > on this? I don't think so. NT automatically migrates a WinNT 3.51 or Win3.1/3.11 setup, but it doesn't seem to touch a Win95 installaition. >=20 > 2) Does APM work? >=20 > Without it, I expect my battery life to be about an hour! Yes. I ran my 760CD for a full two hours by using maximum power management. Suspend/Resume (with Mwave) works fine too! > 3) Anyone verified that all the resolutions are available from the new > video support that's on the IBM site? The drivers on the IBM site offer quite a bit more resolution choices tha= n the Trident driver on the NT4.0 CD. There are now 15 modes to choose fro= m insteand or 4. However, 800x600x65535 is still limited to 60Hz. Under Win95 I get the same resolution at 72Hz. >=20 > Thanks for any thoughts! > ssh > -- > Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solution= s, Inc. > Systems, Network, Internet, and Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado > mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 =20 http://www.wwsi.com/ >=20 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 19 18:57:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA296197853; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:57:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28214; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:52:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:40:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27159; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:40:27 -0500 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27150; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:40:24 -0500 From: Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01956 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:39:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:39:37 -0500 Message-Id: <961119183936_1116963829@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP:Max Memory for Thinkpad 755CX Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It seems that the best I've been able to find is a 32Mb card with, with the onboard 8Mb, will max out at 40Mb. With all of the advances in other technologies, like the now-available 2.1Gb drive for 755s, I hope there are now alternatives to allow me to pack more memory into this box. Any ideas? Costs? How have they worked for you? We're running Win95 with Notes, terminal emulator, client/server app, DCE threads, TCP/IP, etc......well, you get the picture!! Thanx in advance, Mike Pinter, Sr. Tenneco Automotive From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 20 10:00:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA109892044; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:00:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09741; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:57:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:53:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08820; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:53:14 -0500 Received: from fasmail.fas.harvard.edu (root@fasmail.fas.harvard.edu [140.247.30.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08808; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:53:08 -0500 Received: from hoth by fasmail.fas.harvard.edu with SMTP id JAA21894; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:53:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961120095356.00985d50@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:54:00 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Networking IBM Credit Card Ethernet Adaptor, NT, & Intel Etherexpress Pro 10+ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi. I have a problem, and it's driving me nuts. I have a desktop with an EtherExpress Pro/10+ running NT. I'm trying to share files and folders with a Thinkpad 750C running Windows 95. They are hooked into a Linksys 5 port workgroup hub. Okay...the computers can see each other, but after a while, the network will "hang". I used tohave NT installed on the Thinkpad also, and when it hung, I'd get "Dr. Watson" on the thinkpad complaining about some service error. So, I though it was a resource conflict, and hence, I tried installing 95 with its PnP support. Well..unfortunately, it's still hanging, and I have NO idea what is the problem. It takes for instance 4 minutes to copy a 2.5 Mb file across the network... Does anyone know anything about this IBM Ethernet PC Card? I used to use it some time ago, andit seemed to work fine. Could it be the hub? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks... __ Derek V. Chan chan4@fas.harvard.edu dvchan@ibm.net Notice: dchan@cybercom.net is no longer active. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 20 10:01:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA109982064; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:01:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09638; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:57:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:49:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08202; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:49:00 -0500 Received: from fasmail.fas.harvard.edu (root@fasmail.fas.harvard.edu [140.247.30.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08163; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:48:41 -0500 Received: from hoth by fasmail.fas.harvard.edu with SMTP id JAA21469; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:48:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961120094916.0097c320@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:49:21 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: NT 4 & Thinkpad 750C Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was browsing the ibm site and came upon this doc: ftp://204.146.167.81/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/tpwint40.txt Here's an excerpt: +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ !ThinkPad !Driver !760ED !760EL !365XD! 560 ! !Model Name !File Name !760E !760ELD!365X ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !--------------------------!------------!------!------!-----!-----! !MWAVE/DSP Driver V2.00 ! TBN241B1 ! o ! - ! - ! - ! ! ! TBN241B2 ! o ! - ! - ! - ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !MWave MIDI Sample Files ! MWMIDIW1 ! o ! - ! - ! - ! ! ! MWMIDI-2 ! o ! - ! - ! - ! ! ! MWMIDI-3 ! o ! - ! - ! - ! ! ! MWMIDI-4 ! o ! - ! - ! - ! ! ! MWMIDI-5 ! o ! - ! - ! - ! ! ! MWMIDI-6 ! o ! - ! - ! - ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !NT 4.0 ESS Audio Driver ! HXA503WW ! - ! o ! o ! o ! !V1.00 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !ThinkPad Utility V3.50 ! HXU315US ! o ! o ! o ! o ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !NT 4.0 Display Driver ! HXD706WW ! o ! o ! o ! o ! !V1.00 ! ! ! ! ! ! +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ Apparently, the 750 isn't listed, but does it use the same audio chip as the 365 and 760 EL series? Thanks. It'd be nice to use sound in NT. Coincidentally, I just trashed it for Winbloze 95 due to the better driver support. __ Derek V. Chan chan4@fas.harvard.edu dvchan@ibm.net Notice: dchan@cybercom.net is no longer active. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 20 10:12:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA112062734; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:12:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11186; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:09:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:07:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10907; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:07:30 -0500 Received: from jaring.my (jaring.my [192.228.128.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10882; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:07:12 -0500 Received: from gin.jaring.my (man101@j37.ptl41.jaring.my [161.142.116.111]) by jaring.my (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA01918; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:06:51 +0800 Message-Id: <199611201506.XAA01918@jaring.my> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "George In" To: "'Thinkpad Mailing List'" , Andrew Richards Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:07:16 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701 - floppy capacity Reply-To: gin@pc.jaring.my Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Andrew, Unfortunately for the 701, it's the only 7XX series ThinkPad that doesn't support 2.88Mb (4-mode) drives. regards, George. > Hi, > > I read that most Thinkpads come with a floppy drive capable of > supporting 2.88Mbyte floppies. Does the (external) floppy > supplied with the 701 also support this density? > > cheers, > > Andrew ...bye... George iN. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 20 10:38:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA116004326; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:38:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13584; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:30:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:29:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13312; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:28:59 -0500 Received: from igw3.watson.ibm.com (igw3.watson.ibm.com [129.34.139.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13298; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:28:49 -0500 Received: from mailhub1.watson.ibm.com (mailhub1.watson.ibm.com [9.2.249.31]) by igw3.watson.ibm.com (8.7.6/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA03538 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:29:02 -0500 Received: from lusitania.watson.ibm.com (lusitania.watson.ibm.com [9.2.11.96]) by mailhub1.watson.ibm.com (8.8.2/11-10-96) with SMTP id KAA95286 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:28:42 -0500 Received: from localhost by lusitania.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/6/25/96) id AA30344; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:28:41 -0500 Message-Id: <9611201528.AA30344@lusitania.watson.ibm.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP760CD + Linux 2.0.x ==> X, booting, all sorts of problems! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:28:40 -0500 From: Chet Murthy Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all, I'm having the dickens of a time getting my TP760CD working with Linux. More exactly, it works in just one configuration, and otherwise gets very sick. Configurations I've tried: (1) Docked, in Dock II (SCSI CD-ROM installed in dock), with floppy drive installed (and hence with internal CD-ROM removed). This works like a charm. I can install Linux, boot it, use PCMCIA cards, run XFree86, read the SCSI CD-ROM, etc. No Sweat. (2) Undocked, with internal CD-ROM installed. In this mode, again, I can boot Linux, but when I do so, the *mouse* seems to be busy *all* the time. On the other hand, if I boot mini-linux, which runs under the BIOS drivers (if I understand correctly), then the mouse works. So there's something suspicious about the way that the kernel's accessing devices ... ??? However, this way, it takes several minutes for the kernel to boot -- it seems to be looking for the floppy drive while it is uncompressing ... weird. (3) Undocked, with floppy drive installed. This time, the kernel, while uncompressing, accesses the floppy drive a lot, and halfway thru the boot, hibernates the machine (I can get the boot sequence to restart where it left off by closing and re-opening the lid). FSCK fails with a "divide error" (SHRIEK!) and when it finishes booting, it comes up with one of those login prompts which SCREAM to reboot the machine. Clearly, there's something badly wrong with my kernel's way of talking to devices. I've used Slackware96 and RHL4.0 -- kernels 2.0.0 and 2.0.18, and they both have the same problems. Anybody else seen this? Thanks, --chet-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 20 12:01:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA131669287; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:01:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23321; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:55:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:51:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22840; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:51:42 -0500 Received: from gwa.ericsson.com (gwa.ericsson.com [198.215.127.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22833; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:51:32 -0500 Received: from mr1.exu.ericsson.se (mr1.exu.ericsson.com [138.85.147.11]) by gwa.ericsson.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id KAA13256 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:50:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (screamer.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.133.13]) by mr1.exu.ericsson.se (8.7.1/NAHUB-MR1.1) with SMTP id KAA02164 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:50:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from rpc1331.rtp.ericsson.se (pc257.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.136.2]) by screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id LAA14374 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:50:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199611201650.LAA14374@screamer.rtp.ericsson.se> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brett Pantalone" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:53:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701 - floppy capacity Reply-To: pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Supposing I wanted to use the 2.88 MB format for storing backups on floppy disk... How do I format a disk this way? > Andrew, > > Unfortunately for the 701, it's the only 7XX series ThinkPad that > doesn't support 2.88Mb (4-mode) drives. > > regards, > George. > > > Hi, > > > > I read that most Thinkpads come with a floppy drive capable of > > supporting 2.88Mbyte floppies. Does the (external) floppy > > supplied with the 701 also support this density? > > > > cheers, > > > > Andrew > ...bye... > > George iN. > -- Brett Pantalone Staff Engineer, Ericsson Inc. pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 20 14:14:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA151167253; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:14:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04087; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:03:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:57:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03283; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:57:13 -0500 Received: from bnl.gov (bnl.gov [130.199.128.163]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03276; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:56:59 -0500 Received: from sun2.bnl.gov (sun2.bnl.gov [130.199.74.35]) by bnl.gov (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA02142; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by sun2.bnl.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA22785; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:56:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:56:33 -0500 From: bstewart@sun2.bnl.gov (Bruce Stewart) Message-Id: <199611201856.NAA22785@sun2.bnl.gov> To: ssh@wwsi.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: NT 4.0 migration Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu 1) Can I migrate from 95? Check Microsoft's web pages; they do not plan to address this until the next major release of NT. 2) Does APM work? Last I read, IBM was "focused like a laser beam" on this issue; if a solution has come out, I too would be interested to know. -Bruce From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 20 16:20:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA170604796; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:19:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17701; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:10:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:05:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16952; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:05:18 -0500 Received: from nationwide.pagemart.com (firewall-user@[198.4.224.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16854; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:05:05 -0500 Received: by nationwide.pagemart.com; id QAA23008; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:06:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(172.16.6.198) by nationwide.pagemart.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma022995; Wed, 20 Nov 96 16:06:07 -0500 Received: by STUMPY with Microsoft Mail id <01BBD6F4.3974A290@STUMPY>; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:05:10 -0600 Message-Id: <01BBD6F4.3974A290@STUMPY> From: Rick Tait To: "ssh@wwsi.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "'Bruce Stewart'" Subject: RE: NT 4.0 migration Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:05:01 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I really don't think the APM is that much of an issue. Lets face it = folks - if you're going to run NT 4.0 on *any* machine, it has to be = pretty hefty right? Lots of memory, big fast CPU etc. What does that = mean? Less power anyway, because these big CPUs/disks will whack your = battery, simply because NT is big.=20 I've been running NT 4.0 Server on my 755cx (75MHz @ 40MB) and it's just = fine. Battery life is around an hour and a half, I run a lot of = services, and this box is even a PDC and runs IIS3.0. Server runs very = very well on it indeed. If you're traveling a lot, and thus need good = quality APM - NT's not for you. Right now. And besides, if you're = traveling a lot (or are on battery power a lot), can you really take = advantage of NT's added-values over Win95? Security on files across the = network? Networking? Domains? Remote management? PWS? WINS/DHCP? Clearly, a lot of people would just like to run NT4.0 for the sake of = running it, but quite frankly, its not real laptop-friendly right now, = and don't expect any decent sort of PnP until well into next year. So = lets quit moaning. ;-) .rickt ---------- From: Bruce Stewart[SMTP:bstewart@sun2.bnl.gov] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 1996 12:57 PM To: ssh@wwsi.com; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: NT 4.0 migration 1) Can I migrate from 95? Check Microsoft's web pages; they do not plan to address this until the next major release of NT. 2) Does APM work? Last I read, IBM was "focused like a laser beam" on this issue; if a = solution has come out, I too would be interested to know. -Bruce From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 20 16:52:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA176366763; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:52:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21007; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:37:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:36:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20745; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:36:07 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20737; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:35:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id QAA21713; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:36:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:36:39 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux SVGALib w/ TP701 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Someone asked how to get SVGALib working with Linux on a TP701 (SVGA graphics in full-screen mode, not X). I told him SVGALib didn't support the 701's graphics chipset (CT65545) at this time. There's a patch out that allows 640x480x256 and 800x600x256 SVGALib modes on this chipset. I haven't tried it myself so I can't say how well it works. ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/libs/graphics/svgalib-1.2.10.CTp.gz -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 20 17:42:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA184369718; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:41:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26720; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:32:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:28:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26343; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:28:53 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26334; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:28:46 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12588; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:29:30 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961120152738.006a8284@aspen.wwsi.com> X-Sender: ssh@aspen.wwsi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:27:39 -0700 To: Rick Tait , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "'Bruce Stewart'" From: Steve Hultquist Subject: RE: NT 4.0 migration Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 03:05 PM 11/20/96 -0600, Rick Tait wrote: >I really don't think the APM is that much of an issue. Lets face it folks - if you're going to run NT 4.0 on *any* machine, it has to be pretty hefty right? Lots of memory, big fast CPU etc. What does that mean? Less power anyway, because these big CPUs/disks will whack your battery, simply because NT is big. That's exactly what APM helps. It stops the disk when it's not being accessed, slows down the CPU when it's not needed, etc. >I've been running NT 4.0 Server on my 755cx (75MHz @ 40MB) and it's just fine. Battery life is around an hour and a half, I run a lot of services, and this box is even a PDC and runs IIS3.0. Server runs very very well on it indeed. If you're traveling a lot, and thus need good quality APM - NT's not for you. Right now. And besides, if you're traveling a lot (or are on battery power a lot), can you really take advantage of NT's added-values over Win95? Security on files across the network? Networking? Domains? Remote management? PWS? WINS/DHCP? The reason I want it: NO 16-bit CRAP IN THE KERNEL! I'm sick of programs dying because they are getting lost in 16-bit land. I want real processes, not the mistakes of DOS. >Clearly, a lot of people would just like to run NT4.0 for the sake of running it, but quite frankly, its not real laptop-friendly right now, and don't expect any decent sort of PnP until well into next year. So lets quit moaning. ;-) Yep. I know. I've been doing NT 4.0 since it was alpha (first time it was on my CX, too!). ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Systems, Network, Internet, and Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 21 16:01:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA059150077; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:01:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19317; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:50:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:33:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17278; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:33:43 -0500 Received: from stripes.tigr.org (stripes.tigr.org [192.207.234.19]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17083; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:31:50 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by stripes.tigr.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA03836 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:30:01 -0500 Received: from amur(192.207.234.43) by stripes via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma003829; Thu Nov 21 20:29:42 1996 Received: from white (white [192.207.234.214]) by amur.tigr.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA05984 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:30:32 -0500 From: Hui-Hsien Chou Received: (hhchou@localhost) by white (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA28811; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:29:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:29:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199611212029.PAA28811@white> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: (owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU) Subject: ThinkPad 701C forgetting my password? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, is it possible that my ThinkPad can forget my own password? I set my password the first week I had my ThinkPad and never changed it in the following nine months. After I was not using it for over a week, I can't get pass the resume password and power on password any more (they are set as the same). I NEVER changed my password. So why? I was running Linux 1.2.13 before I close the ThinkPad cover. The ThinkPad was hooked to external power. Is it possible that some system error can inadvertently modify the CMOS memory address where password is stored? Please let me know if you have had the same spontaneous password invalidating experience. I am going to ask EASYSERV for service and I need to convince them that I didn't forget my password; this thing just refuses to accept my good old password anymore. By the way, does anyone got IBM EASYSERV phone number handy? Thanks in advance. hh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 21 16:11:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA060730661; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:11:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20326; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:59:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:58:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20063; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:58:09 -0500 Received: from ra.isisnet.com (root@ra.isisnet.com [199.45.83.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20057; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:58:06 -0500 Received: from ra.isisnet.com by ra.isisnet.com (8.8.3/SMI-SVR4) id QAA01194; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:56:27 -0400 (AST) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:56:27 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: <199611212056.QAA01194@ra.isisnet.com> X-Sender: robsteve@isisnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Hui-Hsien Chou , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Robert G. Stevens" Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701C forgetting my password? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 03:29 PM 21/11/96 -0500, Hui-Hsien Chou wrote: >Hi, is it possible that my ThinkPad can forget my own password? I set >my password the first week I had my ThinkPad and never changed it in >the following nine months. After I was not using it for over a week, I >can't get pass the resume password and power on password any more >(they are set as the same). I NEVER changed my password. So why? > >I was running Linux 1.2.13 before I close the ThinkPad cover. The >ThinkPad was hooked to external power. Is it possible that some system >error can inadvertently modify the CMOS memory address where password >is stored? Please let me know if you have had the same spontaneous >password invalidating experience. I am going to ask EASYSERV for >service and I need to convince them that I didn't forget my password; >this thing just refuses to accept my good old password anymore. > >By the way, does anyone got IBM EASYSERV phone number handy? > >Thanks in advance. > >hh > > This may seem like a simple solution but, I had a similiar problem with a HP palmtop computer and the problem was that the password was case sensitive and the cap locks were on. This similiar situation occurs on a thinkpad when the embeded numeric keypad is turned on. IE: You press the J key and get a 1. Regards Robert Stevens From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 22 06:00:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA163720439; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 06:00:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA28668; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 05:59:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 22 Nov 1996 05:53:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA28095; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 05:53:42 -0500 Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA28084; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 05:53:20 -0500 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.f) via EUnet id LAA04143; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:53:02 +0100 Received: from ruprecht (ruprecht.prz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.62.191]) by tubkom.prz.tu-berlin.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA07284; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:49:47 +0100 Sender: michey@prz.tu-berlin.de Message-Id: <329586A0.7992@prz.tu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:55:28 +0100 From: Michael Eyrich Organization: Prozessrechnerverbundzentrale TU-Berlin X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/725) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Hui-Hsien Chou Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701C forgetting my password? References: <199611212029.PAA28811@white> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If you were using an external external numeric keypad and plug it off during suspend, the TP seems to be unable to translate the pressed keys in the right way ... Got this "error" with a TP 755cx. Regards ./Michael Hui-Hsien Chou wrote: > > Hi, is it possible that my ThinkPad can forget my own password? I set > my password the first week I had my ThinkPad and never changed it in > the following nine months. After I was not using it for over a week, I > can't get pass the resume password and power on password any more > (they are set as the same). I NEVER changed my password. So why? > > I was running Linux 1.2.13 before I close the ThinkPad cover. The > ThinkPad was hooked to external power. Is it possible that some system > error can inadvertently modify the CMOS memory address where password > is stored? Please let me know if you have had the same spontaneous > password invalidating experience. I am going to ask EASYSERV for > service and I need to convince them that I didn't forget my password; > this thing just refuses to accept my good old password anymore. > > By the way, does anyone got IBM EASYSERV phone number handy? > > Thanks in advance. > > hh -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * Michael Eyrich, PRZ, TU-Berlin, FB Informatik +49-30-31426713 * * michey@prz.tu-berlin.de ** http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de/~michey/ * ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 22 14:01:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA222379262; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:01:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06692; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:43:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:36:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06137; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:36:14 -0500 Received: from ripper.engin.umich.edu (strongtd@ripper.engin.umich.edu [141.213.8.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06130; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:36:08 -0500 Received: (strongtd@localhost) by ripper.engin.umich.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id NAA12812; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:33:32 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:33:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Tim D. Strong" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpads forgetting Poweron Passwords In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Mine forgot its password once after getting an 8614 or something similiar code on startup. The error code refers to CMOS. Also the system time screen came up for me to set the clock. After I restarted the machine the error went away BUT my password was screwed up. When I sent it to IBM they replaced the CMOS battery. They did it free of charge. Did you get an error code recently? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 23 07:30:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA042742236; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 07:30:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29794; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 07:29:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 23 Nov 1996 07:20:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29367; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 07:20:40 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29355; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 07:20:34 -0500 Received: from luzern_ppp44.tic.ch (luzern_ppp44.tic.ch [193.193.148.46]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA27215; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 13:22:26 +0100 (MET) Received: by luzern_ppp44.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BBD938.1DB94E20@luzern_ppp44.tic.ch>; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:16:12 +-100 Message-Id: <01BBD938.1DB94E20@luzern_ppp44.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'Derek V. Chan'" , "'Thinkpad Mailing List'" Subject: RE: Networking IBM Credit Card Ethernet Adaptor, NT, & Intel Etherexpress Pro 10+ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:39:40 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Derek, Could it be a heat problem? In my 701 I find that 2 of my 3 PCMCIA cards overheat after a certain time - particularly if I use both slots, and also dependent on which card is in which slot. My Ethernet card fails after about 1 hour in the lower slot (hot) or 2 hours in the upper slot (warm). My SCSI card fails after about 4 hours. Failure in both cases is manifested by the cards working 'Slowly', or in the Ethernet card's case, NetBEUI (Microsoft networking) failing before TCP/IP. I presume the latter is more delay- and error-resistant. In both cases it took me ages to link heat to my problems - the problems disappeared as soon as the cards had cooled down (by removing them for 5 minutes). Maybe that helps, Andrew. ---------- From: Derek V. Chan[SMTP:chan4@husc.harvard.edu] Sent: Mittwoch, 20. November 1996 15:54 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Networking IBM Credit Card Ethernet Adaptor, NT, & Intel Etherexpress Pro 10+ Hi. I have a problem, and it's driving me nuts. I have a desktop with an EtherExpress Pro/10+ running NT. I'm trying to share files and folders with a Thinkpad 750C running Windows 95. They are hooked into a Linksys 5 port workgroup hub. Okay...the computers can see each other, but after a while, the network will "hang". I used tohave NT installed on the Thinkpad also, and when it hung, I'd get "Dr. Watson" on the thinkpad complaining about some service error. So, I though it was a resource conflict, and hence, I tried installing 95 with its PnP support. Well..unfortunately, it's still hanging, and I have NO idea what is the problem. It takes for instance 4 minutes to copy a 2.5 Mb file across the network... Does anyone know anything about this IBM Ethernet PC Card? I used to use it some time ago, andit seemed to work fine. Could it be the hub? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks... __ Derek V. Chan chan4@fas.harvard.edu dvchan@ibm.net Notice: dchan@cybercom.net is no longer active. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 24 03:13:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA164323215; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 03:13:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08053; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 03:11:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 24 Nov 1996 03:04:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07441; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 03:04:18 -0500 Received: from mail.netvision.net.il (mail.NetVision.net.il [194.90.1.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07435; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 03:04:15 -0500 Received: from rel-laptop ([202.96.32.10]) by mail.netvision.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA17419 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 10:04:00 +0200 (IST) Message-Id: <3298016C.1959@netvision.net.il> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:03:56 +0800 From: REL Reply-To: rel@netvision.net.il Organization: The Eisenberg Group Of Companies X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscibe Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 25 09:48:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA073833319; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:48:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19026; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:46:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:32:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17078; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:32:01 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (wdl1.wdl.lmco.com [137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17072; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:31:58 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id GAA25414; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:31:31 -0800 Message-Id: <3299AEFB.77F9@conic.lmco.com> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:36:43 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP755C Part for Free Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I used to have a TP755C that I upgraded the processor from a DX2-50 to a DX4-75. When I got the card to install I noticed the circuit card was the same, and just a different speed processor was soldered on the board. If anyone has a TP755C that the would like to try upgrading, they can have my old card. Note you would have to find a surface mount CPU and solder in on the card (I think people are using the AMD486-133 run at 100MHz). You may also have to set some jumpers, and of course you have to tear apart your machine to get at the processor card. But, at least you wouldn't have to hack your present card and void your warranty. If anyone is interested please RSVP then send a SASE and it's yours. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 25 10:03:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA076244217; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:03:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20616; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:00:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:58:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20210; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:58:52 -0500 Received: from cimweb.cimtek.on.ca (cimweb.cimtek.on.ca [199.198.216.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20202; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:58:47 -0500 Received: from egan.cimtek.on.ca (egan.cimtek.on.ca [199.198.216.2]) by cimweb.cimtek.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA02724 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:36:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0b36.32.19961125095936.006e4b3c@mail.cimtek.on.ca> X-Sender: jfe@mail.cimtek.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b36 (32) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:59:37 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "James F. Egan" Subject: Dock II with ISA card and 2nd IDE drive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I am new (recently) to the list. I have a TP 760C with a 1.08 gb drive, a dock II with an ethernet card, scsi drive and scsi cdr. I wanted to be able to produce cd's with this combination, so I purchased another 1.08gb drive and drive holder for the multibay. When I installed this, it takes over the irq15, which the ethernet card had allocated, so I changed the irq on the ethernet to 9. WITHOUT enabling the drive in the multibay, everything works. WITH the drive enabled in the multibay, the drive works but not if the dock is connected. The machine will not run properly if connected to the dock with the 2nd drive. Does anyone recall anything about the irq 15 with respect to the dock? Any solutions? I am not using any pcmcia cards in this configuration to avoid irq 15 problems, as stated in the manual. Other info that may be useful: I cannot get windows to recognize the drive as other than 'removable'. If the drive is 'removable', my cdr software will not copy from it. Any help would be appreciated. -------------------------------------------------------- __ James F. Egan ---- Internet: jfe@cimtek.on.ca -CIMTEK- IBMMAIL: i1189482@IBMMAIL.COM ------------ Voice: (905)847-8811 x11 Automation Systems Ltd From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 25 17:50:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA161282242; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:50:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07000; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:47:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:43:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06433; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:43:01 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (wdl1.wdl.lmco.com [137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06424; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:42:57 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id OAA16237; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:42:23 -0800 Message-Id: <329A2208.2662@conic.lmco.com> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:47:36 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Subject: Re: TP755C Part for Free References: <4933D021FB6@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I will take your processor card if no one else has beat me to it. Let > me know so I can send you an SASE. Sorry to say that someone has reserved the processor card. Lets wish him happy hacking! If he doesn't send the SASE for some reason, I'll repost the offer. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 26 17:15:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA052696529; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:15:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01828; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:11:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:57:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00209; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:57:49 -0500 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00196; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:57:39 -0500 Received: from tom-franklin (ppp-206-170-120-1.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.120.1]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA23688; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:57:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <329B6778.615F@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:56:08 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomfrank@pacbell.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: nv.forsale,ny.forsale,nyc.forsale,nyx.forsale,oau.forsale,oc.forsale,oh.forsale,or.forsale,orst.forsale,pa.forsale,pa.hbg.forsale,pa.lv.forsale,pa.ne.forsale,pdx.forsale,pensacola.forsale,pgh.forsale,pinnacle.forsale,pitt.forsale,pnet.consumer.forsale,pnw.forsale,princeton.forsale,purdue.forsale,queens.forsale,rno.forsale,rpi.forsale,saga-u.forsale,san_antonio.forsale.computers,sat.forsale,sb.forsale,sco.forsale,seattle.forsale,seattle.forsale.computers,seattle.forsale.misc,solent.forsale,sqnt-public.forsale,stl.forsale,tamu.forsale,tek.forsale,texasnet.forsale,tnn.forsale,tohoku.forsale,tor.forsale.misc,triangle.forsale,tx.forsale,uark.forsale,ucd.forsale,ucla.forsale,sdnet.forsale,la.forsale,ca.forsale,oc.forsale,ba.forsale,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.portables,misc.forsale.computers.other.misc,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.misc Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 560 32MB DIMM -- Cheap! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thinkpad 560 32MB DIMM -- $375 -32 MB, EDO SO DIMM, 3.3V -GoldenRAM Brand -ThinkPad Proven memory that won't void your IBM warranty. -Part Number: 92G7342F-GR Note this will work in a TP560, and will not fit into a TP760E. I don't know if it will fit into a TP365X. I have to sell because it won't fit into my TP760E. :( Check out the GoldenRam spec sheet: http://www.goldenram.com:80/cgi-bin/upgradepro?mfg=IBM&sys=38, or the IBM equivalent information: http://www1.ibmlink.ibm.com/HTML/SPEC/4463cmm.html Price includes UPS ground shipping and COD for US addresses. -- \\|||// (o) (o) ======.oOO==( )==OOo.====== || || || Thomas D. Franklin || || tomfrank@pacbell.net || || || || .oooO Oooo. || =======( )===( )======= \ ( ) / \_) (_/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 26 20:52:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA085269525; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:52:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18206; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:50:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:46:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17819; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:46:15 -0500 Received: from ucs.orst.edu (mosleys@UCS.ORST.EDU [128.193.4.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17813; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:46:10 -0500 Received: by ucs.orst.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/13Sep96-1023AM) id AA31418; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:45:59 -0800 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:45:59 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Mosley To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: WTB? Thinkpad 701cs FLoppy drive and Cable? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu When I bought my TP701C I knew I would like everything about it, except for the external floppy drive. Well, to make a short story brief, the floppy drive got misplaced and now I need to get a new one (as well as a new cable) Does anyone know of a good source for these? (i.e., third party or "cheap") what is a fair price for a replacement? I do not need the drive desperately, since I already have a ZIP drive and sufficient hard drive space, but I have no way to boot from a floppy (obiviously) Any input appreciated. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 27 08:00:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA147809638; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 08:00:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07312; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 07:59:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 27 Nov 1996 07:53:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05953; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 07:53:07 -0500 Received: from mail.black-hole.com (mail.black-hole.com [206.145.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05945; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 07:52:58 -0500 Received: from maroon.edu (pub-12-c-36.dialup.umn.edu [160.94.26.36]) by mail.black-hole.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA176; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 06:52:58 -0600 Message-Id: <329C3B24.16F9@kmktech.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 06:59:16 -0600 From: chrism@kmktech.com (Chris Michalek) Reply-To: chrism@kmktech.com Organization: KMK Technology Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Mosley Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: WTB? Thinkpad 701cs FLoppy drive and Cable? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Stephen Mosley wrote: > > When I bought my TP701C I knew I would like everything about it, > except for the external floppy drive. Well, to make a short story > brief, the floppy drive got misplaced and now I need to get a new > one (as well as a new cable) I paid $130.00 for my floppy drive direct from IBM about a year ago. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 27 16:40:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA224570829; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:40:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25114; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:33:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:25:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24181; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:25:52 -0500 Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24162; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:25:48 -0500 From: Received: by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA19751 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:25:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:25:10 -0500 Message-Id: <961127162508_1750909203@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: I would like to subscribe Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I would like to subscribe to the mailing list Jayan Patel JayanP1@aol.com Thank you! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 27 20:48:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA254985717; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:48:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13335; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:47:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:37:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12260; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:37:33 -0500 Received: from netcom22.netcom.com (phr@netcom22.netcom.com [192.100.81.136]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12241; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:37:28 -0500 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id RAA26441; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:37:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:37:25 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199611280137.RAA26441@netcom22.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755cx power adapter question Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm using the adapter that hangs from the wall by a short IEC cord, that ends with the big weird ugly rectangular plug that plugs into the back of the thinkpad. Since I often use the thinkpad while sitting in bed, I tend to bang or snag that plug sometimes when I move the computer, because it sticks out the back of the computer so unnecessarily far. Is another adapter available that has a smaller plug? That big plug is an awful kludge. Thanks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 28 09:06:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA023459963; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:06:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04966; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:04:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 28 Nov 1996 08:58:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04473; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 08:58:39 -0500 Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04467; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 08:58:34 -0500 Received: from golf.uib.no by noralf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:58:15 +0100 Received: from admorg1742.svf.uib.no by golf.uib.no with SMTP id OAA03327 (8.8.3/3.HMK for uib.no); Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:58:13 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19961128140013.44c70f04@golf.uib.no> X-Sender: soatj@golf.uib.no X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:00:13 +0100 To: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Thor Jensen Subject: Re: 755cx power adapter question Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 17:37 27.11.96 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: >I'm using the adapter that hangs from the wall by a short IEC >cord, that ends with the big weird ugly rectangular plug that >plugs into the back of the thinkpad. Since I often use the thinkpad >while sitting in bed, I tend to bang or snag that plug sometimes >when I move the computer, because it sticks out the back of >the computer so unnecessarily far. Is another adapter available >that has a smaller plug? That big plug is an awful kludge. >Thanks > Older adapters and (I think) new spare part ones have the usual small plug. Many of us break the plug because it stands out too far, end then it is impossible to get replacement other than the old one (but keep the small wall cord) Thor =D8ivind Jensen Dep of Administration and Organization Theory N 5014 Univ of Bergen, Norway phone +47 55 58 21 53 home: +47 55 20 22 48 fax +47 55 58 98 90 mob: +47 946 246 90 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 28 12:24:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA042581874; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:24:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16978; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:23:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:20:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16592; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:20:22 -0500 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16584; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:20:19 -0500 From: Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA02357 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:19:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:19:43 -0500 Message-Id: <961128121941_1616801339@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: I wish to subscribe Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I would like to subscribe to the mailing list Jayan Patel JayanP1@aol.com Thank you From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 28 13:07:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046734449; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:07:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19142; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:06:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:04:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18889; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:03:59 -0500 Received: from netcom21.netcom.com (phr@netcom21.netcom.com [192.100.81.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18882; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:03:55 -0500 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id KAA22246; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:03:52 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:03:52 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199611281803.KAA22246@netcom21.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 755cx power adapter question Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 15:00:13 +0100 >From: Thor Jensen >Older adapters and (I think) new spare part ones have the usual small plug. Thanks! But, what is the usual small plug? I've never seen one. I'd buy a second adapter just to not have to deal with this awful big plug that I keep almost breaking. I worry that one day I will break not just the plug but the connecting pins inside the thinkpad itself, making me need a very expensive repair. And a spare adapter is always nice to have... I'd use my Dock 1 instead of an adapter except the stupid thing has a fan inside and makes too much noise... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 28 14:06:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA052677992; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:06:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21595; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:05:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:03:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21357; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:03:33 -0500 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21349; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:03:29 -0500 From: Received: from evt-mx1-ip92.halcyon.com by mail1.halcyon.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/10Nov96-0444PM) id AA10957; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:02:21 -0800 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961128190228.00664e94@halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:02:28 -0800 To: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Subject: Re: 755cx power adapter question Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 05:37 PM 11/27/96 -0800, you wrote: >I'm using the adapter that hangs from the wall by a short IEC >cord, that ends with the big weird ugly rectangular plug that >plugs into the back of the thinkpad. Since I often use the thinkpad >while sitting in bed, I tend to bang or snag that plug sometimes >when I move the computer, because it sticks out the back of >the computer so unnecessarily far. Is another adapter available >that has a smaller plug? That big plug is an awful kludge. >Thanks > > It's that big adaptor hanging off of the wall plug that bugs me. Some of my wall outlets are high enough that the adaptor is dangling and not resting on the floor; seems heavy enough to pull the plug out of the wall one of these days. In other words, I too am interested in a more efficient ac adaptor cord. Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 29 19:41:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA246194514; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:41:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07461; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:40:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:27:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06431; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:27:22 -0500 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06423; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:27:17 -0500 Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (actually rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Sat, 30 Nov 1996 01:24:29 +0100 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BBDE5D.38B918C0@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 01:24:24 +0100 Message-Id: <01BBDE5D.38B918C0@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: Axel Hartmann To: "'THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU'" Subject: experiences w/ us-thinkpad in germany/europe Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 01:19:51 +0100 Encoding: 83 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu hi y'all, having learned so much from the list i thought it's time for me to share the latest insights. i just returned home to germany with my US-aquired tp701cs. before the flight: i had it hand-checked at the airport (boston). make sure the batteries are loaded, they wanted to see it boot. on the plane: the tp701 doesn't have a built-in cd-rom, so i was allowed to use it in flight. don't ask me why a cd-rom drive would harm a boeing, but that's what they said. sadly, the atlantic ocean is longer than my only battery. much longer. not that it mattered, i was catching up on z's anyhow. the built-in speakers are loud enough for "fun" gaming, and loud enough to disturb other fliers. luckily, the headphones that us-air gives the fliers are "standard" with an adaptor for the "proprietary" arm-rest jacks, and fit the thinkpad. back home: the power adapter can handle 220V. it gets noticably warmer than with 110V. you also need a plug-adapter, since the flip-out american-style prongs don't fit in europe. otherwise no problem. the keyboard is, of course, US. and it lacks four german letters, the umlauts and the s-z. duh. can't change that. i finally got to test the IR-interface! a friend has the new HP-LaserJet 6 (not released in the US yet, i believe). it works! magic! fast! wow! (LJ-III drivers work, btw) i will actually be beaming my thesis! since the printer doesn't speak, i won't be renaming the 'pad scotty, though. the modem: yes, i was the one half a year back pestering about my modem hanging up after five minutes. it never really stopped doing that when i connected my ISP with win95 at 19k2. i never found a way to convince the plus pack to connect at 14k4. anyway, here in germany my university only has 14k4 modems, and my modem works beautifully now. no problem with dial tones or anything like that. however, first you need a (you guessed it) plug adapter. the german telekom mandates larger plugs. there are two kinds, one for phones and one for non-phones (don't laugh) such as answering machines and faxes. the phones should always have priority and take the call away from the other machines, and no two machines should be able to use the line at the same time. yep, really complicated. the plugs are wired really weird. =what should happen: the modem should be plugged into a n- type outlet, take the line on pins 1 and 2 and pass this on on to lines 4 and 3 respectively. in use, the modem should cut the connection to pins 4 and 3. =why it doesn't happen: most modems just don't do it this way. as far as i could tell, phone-devices in the states are all in parallel. =what i am doing: i'm connecting pins 1 to 4 and 2 to 3 in a n-type plug. this way, my modem runs parallel to everything else. =problems remaining: some houses don't have n-type outlets, just f-type phone-outlets. they are, of course, mutually exclusive. you might have to get a f to n-f-n adapter. there are ready-made cables from f or n to US-style wd-connectors, since most german phones use these connectors, too. however, the pins are wired in at least 6 different variations. only one works. it's easiest to ask for a cable for an american modem. when i asked, they wanted almost $20. so i soldered it myself, which is probalby illegal. that was that, axel ....................................................................... . 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